Is It Time to Tap the Earth's Ass?

It's Rhetorical Questions Day.

There's a huge amount of energy -- heat -- inside the earth. And not just in the molten core, but in the layers beneath the surface crust of the earth. If we can dig deep enough, we can make steam engines that produce energy from the earth's heat.

But you have to dig pretty deep.

In a sagebrush valley full of wind turbines and solar panels in western Utah, Tim Latimer gazed up at a very different device he believes could be just as powerful for fighting climate change -- maybe even more.
It was a drilling rig, of all things, transplanted from the oil fields of North Dakota. But the softly whirring rig wasn't searching for fossil fuels. It was drilling for heat.
Latimer's company, Fervo Energy, is part of an ambitious effort to unlock vast amounts of geothermal energy from Earth's hot interior, a source of renewable power that could help displace fossil fuels that are dangerously warming the planet.
"There's a virtually unlimited resource down there if we can get at it," Latimer said. "Geothermal doesn't use much land, it doesn't produce emissions, it can complement wind and solar power. Everyone who looks into it gets obsessed with it."
Traditional geothermal plants, which have existed for decades, work by tapping natural hot water reservoirs underground to power turbines that can generate electricity 24 hours a day. Few sites have the right conditions for this, however, so geothermal only produces 0.4% of America's electricity.
But hot, dry rocks lie below the surface everywhere on the planet. And by using advanced drilling techniques developed by the oil and gas industry, some experts think it's possible to tap that larger store of heat and create geothermal energy almost anywhere. The potential is enormous: The Energy Department estimates there's enough energy in those rocks to power the entire country five times over and has launched a major push to develop technologies to harvest that heat.
Dozens of geothermal companies have emerged with ideas.
Fervo is using fracking techniques -- similar to those used for oil and gas -- to crack open dry, hot rock and inject water into the fractures, creating artificial geothermal reservoirs. Eavor, a Canadian startup, is building large underground radiators with drilling methods pioneered in Alberta's oil sands. Others dream of using plasma or energy waves to drill even deeper and tap "superhot" temperatures that could cleanly power thousands of coal-fired power plants by substituting steam for coal.
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Near the town of Milford, Utah, sits the Blundell geothermal plant, surrounded by boiling mud pits, hissing steam vents and the skeletal ruins of a hot springs resort. Built in 1984, the 38-megawatt plant produces enough electricity for about 31,000 homes.
The Blundell plant relies on ancient volcanism and quirks of geology: Just below the surface are hot, naturally porous rocks that allow groundwater to percolate and heat up enough to create steam for generating electricity. But such conditions are rare. In much of the region, the underground hot rock is hard granite, and water can't flow easily.
Three miles east, two teams are trying to tap that hot granite. One is Utah FORGE, a $220 million research effort funded by the Energy Department. The other is Fervo, a Houston-based startup.
Both use similar methods: First, drill two wells shaped like giant L's, extending thousands of feet down into hot granite before curving and extending thousands of feet horizontally. Then, use fracking, which involves controlled explosives and high-pressure fluids, to create a series of cracks between the two wells. Finally, inject water into one well, where it will hopefully migrate through the cracks, heat up past 300 degrees Fahrenheit and come out the other well.
This is "enhanced geothermal," and people have struggled with the engineering difficulties since the 1970s.
But in July, FORGE announced it had successfully sent water between two wells. Two weeks later, Fervo announced its own breakthrough: A 30-day test in Nevada found the process could produce enough heat for electricity. Fervo is now drilling wells for its first 400-megawatt commercial power plant in Utah, next to the FORGE site.

I have two reservations. First, this is being pushed by Greenies. One "expert" cited by the Times notes the "declines" in the cost of wind and solar, without noting that these "clean energy sources" produce little energy.

Another jerkoff pushing this is Lisa Murkowski, for some reason. Does she not know her state relies on the price of oil being moderate to high? But she's a hard liberal -- a hard liberal protected by Mitch the Bitch McConnell -- so she doesn't care. She's all about global warming.

I don't believe anything these people say. They are fanatics. They are not interested in energy production, they are just interested in stopping conventional energy production. And they'll lie (to us and to themselves) about the feasibility of anything which might, possibly, reduce the production of conventional energy.

One worry the Times mentions is that drilling so far down could cause earthquakes, which sounds like the plot of a Superman sequel, maybe Lex Luthor's latest real estate swindle, maybe the Mole Men trying to wipe out the Surface-Dweller Fools, but who knows, maybe it's possible.

I'm not a scientist like Noted Twitter Omnipresence Dr. Guy P. Benson, esq., Ph.D.

Posted by: Ace at 04:39 PM

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1 Tap this.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 04, 2023 04:40 PM (Q4IgG)

2 All the cool cats listen to Suede and tap the Earth Mother...

Posted by: Mister Ghost at September 04, 2023 04:41 PM (TGPs7)

3 I don't believe anything these people say. They are fanatics. They are not interested in energy production, they are just interested in stopping conventional energy production. And they'll lie (to us and to themselves) about the feasibility of anything which might, possibly, reduce the production of conventional energy.

They're purchased. A Senate vote is a commodity item.

Posted by: mrp at September 04, 2023 04:44 PM (rj6Yv)

4 Sponge!!!!

Posted by: GL at September 04, 2023 04:44 PM (5fDan)

5 There are considerable dangers involved in going deep enough to harvest enough thermal energy to make the effort worth while. Does anyone remember the MOHOLE project...and why it was abandoned?

Posted by: Francis W. Porretto at September 04, 2023 04:44 PM (Nmmyc)

6 Draining the core of heat would cool the earth. It's not a perpetual motion scheme.

Posted by: Jamaica NYC at September 04, 2023 04:45 PM (Eeb9P)

7 Ace, you stomped Buck:

Posted by Buck Throckmorton at 04:15 PM
Posted by Ace at 04:39 PM

Posted by: m at September 04, 2023 04:45 PM (Dz9Qm)

8 Figures lefties are digging to hell. Just can't wait.

Posted by: SOMEASSHOLESTOLEMYPEN at September 04, 2023 04:45 PM (iyNkl)

9 "fossil fuels that are dangerously warming the planet."

Eyeroll.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at September 04, 2023 04:45 PM (GAih5)

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5 There are considerable dangers involved in going deep enough to harvest enough thermal energy to make the effort worth while. Does anyone remember the MOHOLE project...and why it was abandoned?
Posted by: Francis W. Porretto at September 04, 2023 04:44 PM (Nmmyc)

No.

Posted by: rd at September 04, 2023 04:46 PM (PTP2a)

11 Nuclear Power has zero CO2 emissions

Posted by: rd at September 04, 2023 04:47 PM (PTP2a)

12 Tap it? like with a 1/4-20?

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at September 04, 2023 04:48 PM (17s+e)

13 Good luck with keeping the fractures open. At the temperatures and pressures they’re likely to see in that environment you need something really expensive like tons and tons of sintered bauxite. And there will be roughly 1 pound per foot of depth of overburden pressure trying to slam your fractures shut if you don’t prop them open.

Posted by: GeoNC at September 04, 2023 04:48 PM (wOaji)

14 "Does anyone remember the MOHOLE project...and why it was abandoned?"

Wasn't that just cover operation for recovering a Soviet nuclear submarine?

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at September 04, 2023 04:49 PM (GAih5)

15 and why it was abandoned?
Posted by: Francis W. Porretto at September 04, 2023 04:44 PM (Nmmyc)

Deep Sevens, baby! Deep Sevens!

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at September 04, 2023 04:49 PM (/HDaX)

16 They're purchased. A Senate vote is a commodity item.
Posted by: mrp at September 04, 2023 04
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Sing it.

Let the governor appoint them.

Posted by: Braenyard at September 04, 2023 04:49 PM (aDPLI)

17
Does anyone remember the MOHOLE project... and why it was abandoned?
Posted by: Francis W. Porretto

As I recall, swarms of millions of MOHOLE hoes flooded to the surface and threatened to undermine the moral standing of citizens of this once great nation.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 04, 2023 04:50 PM (5pZqO)

18 This is just another leftwing scam to funnel money to democrat donors and screw dumb investors. Solar, wind, and other energy scams are nearing their sell-by dates, so another scam is needed.

If any of these shiteating cocksuckers really cared about cheap, clean alternative energy, they’d be all-in on nuclear. We’d be close to fusion generation if we used the trillions dumped into all these energy scams over the last 20 years.

Posted by: Elric Blade at September 04, 2023 04:51 PM (5o2qA)

19 Unleash the Primords! Hasn't anyone seen Doctor Who - Inferno?

Posted by: someone at September 04, 2023 04:51 PM (CeCdQ)

20 7 Ace, you stomped Buck:

Posted by Buck Throckmorton at 04:15 PM
Posted by Ace at 04:39 PM
Posted by: m at September 04, 2023 04:45 PM (Dz9Qm)

Run for your lives!
It's Ace's Heel turn.
No one is safe.

Posted by: Mister Ghost at September 04, 2023 04:51 PM (TGPs7)

21 I am pretty sure that SDG and E has a geothermal plant out in the desert east of San Diego.

Geothermal is not new.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at September 04, 2023 04:51 PM (8fpTj)

22 Is It Time to Tap the Earth's Ass?

It's absolutely time to quit accepting some bad science.

Like the idea the Earth is a finite system. Look, if you believe water is finite ? Then we're all dead. Water is on a loop. Again, except if you're on the new Global Warming train that we'll somehow burn water for fuel. That would be extremely dumb.

Are carbon fuels finite ? I'd say no. The evidence says no. The Earth's core, heated by the Sun, produces immense pressures and temperatures that cook hydro-carbons to the surface.

Are hydro-carbons limitless ? No. And maybe we've harvested them faster than the Earth can produce them. That would be a fair question. But those hydro-carbons are not finite. They're on a loop.

Long story short - we're all just on a ride here, on this orb, at the whim of that great big nuke reaction in the sky. That's the energy source. Pure and simple. When it goes, we go. If we were all serious ? We'd be bending over backward to exploit everything we can to get away from the Sun, before it burns out.

Posted by: Reality at September 04, 2023 04:52 PM (nraLl)

23 Our local hospital installed geothermal pumps for the new building. They supply the hospital's winter heat.

Posted by: French Jeton at September 04, 2023 04:52 PM (NXBpJ)

24 13 Good luck with keeping the fractures open.
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Or, remember how they had to learn how to cap an oil well? What if the core just keeps spewing?

Posted by: Braenyard at September 04, 2023 04:52 PM (aDPLI)

25 Thermal energy is niche. Pretty much every energy source is niche except petrochemicals and nuclear.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at September 04, 2023 04:53 PM (cMXNt)

26 ' a source of renewable power that could help displace fossil fuels that are dangerously warming the planet.'

The above tells me all I need to know. Including the word 'dangerously' tells me Solyndra is alive and well.

Posted by: Tucking dollars in your belt is a waist of money at September 04, 2023 04:53 PM (qfLjt)

27 >>> There's a huge amount of energy -- heat -- inside the earth.

That is retarded, sir.
Everyone knows that all heaton Earth is due to mankind's release of carbon. Mostly from people driving big azz pick up trucks to the honkey tonks.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at September 04, 2023 04:54 PM (ga8qR)

28 If geothermal holds promise--and I personally think it does--we'll know in a couple of years when the green church turns against it for threatening the road back to poverty and feudalism.

Posted by: CppThis at September 04, 2023 04:56 PM (PZvjL)

29 So, if we were to tap the Earth's full geothermal potential, you just know some idiot will want to shut it all down because that heat is necessary for regulating the Earth somehow.

So extracting that energy causes the Earth to slow down, which results in a global cooling or runaway tidal locking effect that will stop the Earth's rotation in only a billion years instead of 2 billion years.

We're doomed.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 04, 2023 04:57 PM (BpYfr)

30 Geothermal is nothing new. Go check out Iceland and see how it's been done and pretty much given up on because it is costly and not very powerful (Low energy density, like solar and biomass).

Posted by: pawn at September 04, 2023 04:58 PM (wsHtO)

31 In Lassen County out in the nowhere at Wendell sits a wood chip fired electrical generating station. 42MW at max. Usually produces 26 MW. Chips from forest 20+ miles away.

It has a geothermal flat plate heat exchanger that uses steam from the Earth that is good for 2MW and preheats feed water for the steam turbine.

The government makes them reinject the used geothermal steam/water so there's a pump and piping involved. Plus the Feds get paid for the use of the free steam supplied by the Earth but the Feds do not contribute to the costs of extraction of the free steam.

Such a deal!

Obviously there's more to be had though.

Posted by: torabora at September 04, 2023 04:59 PM (MALyz)

32 One worry the Times mentions is that drilling so far down could cause earthquakes,

Sheesh.
Everyone knows.if you go.deep.wnough you find a whole new world with giant bugs and dinosaurs.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 04, 2023 04:59 PM (hv9bm)

33 The Greenies are all-in for every non-fossil fuel large scale energy source, except the one that has proven designs and power output capability and can start wide-scale construction tomorrow: Nuclear Fission Power Plants.

Large-scale nuke plant construction would help Biden 'create' a hell of a lot more blue collar manufacturing and construction lobs than the renewable crap will. Much smaller footprint, meaning far, far less impact on local wildlife and vegetation. Long lifetimes for the buildings and cooling towers and containment structure. Not much that wears out or is used-up other than pumps and rotating machinery (mostly their seals and bearings, not the entire contraption), and the radioactive fuel. And it works whether or not the sun is shining or the wind is blowing.

But NOOOOOOO. They are totes against everything nuclear because reasons. It makes me sick every time I think about the lost opportunity costs to this nation by going nuclear instead of renewable horsesh!t.

Posted by: GL at September 04, 2023 04:59 PM (5fDan)

34 Little known factoid - The Puna Geothermal Venture triggered the Big Island's east rift eruptions that nearly destroyed the power plant and damn near burned down Joe's house and Corvette.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at September 04, 2023 05:00 PM (ga8qR)

35 The idea that certain energy sources are finite, hydro-carbons - and others are infinite, solar - wind - and bio apparently, ignores some basic laws of physics and laws of common sense. If you don't believe matter can be converted ?

Go grow a garden. That is energy transferred and converted. If it can be converted via bio matter, why can't it be transferred via to the Earth's core into hydro-carbons ?

Of course it can. That's an inconvenient truth.

Posted by: Reality at September 04, 2023 05:00 PM (nraLl)

36 18 This is just another leftwing scam to funnel money to democrat donors and screw dumb investors. Solar, wind, and other energy scams are nearing their sell-by dates, so another scam is needed

Indeed. Building one of these plants requires a hell of a lot of money up front. Best place to get fistfuls of money with little oversight is Uncle Sam, so the opportunities for graft are bountiful. Think Solendra, only an order of magnitude greater.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at September 04, 2023 05:00 PM (SBN29)

37 If the location is practical for thermal energy, then go for it. Iceland has been doing it for decades. But until this is proven a reliable and workable source, we will need the already-proven methods to keep the modern world moving.

Wind and solar are proven failures for many reasons. We need to junk both before the damage from them becomes permanent.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at September 04, 2023 05:01 PM (BdMk6)

38 If we could figure out a way to get the yellowstone caldera to blow, it would satisfy our energy needs until the end of civilization.

Same with my Moon plan.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 04, 2023 05:01 PM (wsSEe)

39 Check out Iceland. Drill a deep hole, steam comes out. Steam turns turbines for electricity, that steam turns to water. If the steam is clean, store the hot water in tanks and pipe it to homes and business or use it to heat streets in the winter. When that hot water comes out of the hot water tap in a hotel, it smells of sulfur - oh well. Iceland smelts a lot of aluminum because they have cheap electricity. The Blue Lagoon near Keflavik is excess hot water from a power plant.

Posted by: Richard at September 04, 2023 05:01 PM (xGLnO)

40 >"Does anyone remember the MOHOLE project...and why it was abandoned?"

it was defunded by Congress

Posted by: DB - at September 04, 2023 05:02 PM (geLO8)

41 Thermal energy is niche. Pretty much every energy source is niche except petrochemicals and nuclear.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at September 04, 2023 04:53 PM (cMXNt)
****
What am I? Chopped liver?

Posted by: Coal at September 04, 2023 05:02 PM (MALyz)

42 We do the best we can. Sometimes shit happens. *hamster shrug*

Posted by: The HQ Auto-Post Hamsters at September 04, 2023 05:02 PM (V8he0)

43 So, if we were to tap the Earth's full geothermal potential, you just know some idiot will want to shut it all down because that heat is necessary for regulating the Earth somehow.

Wind and Solar are only popular now because they are not widespread. Before our kids are dead, the mantra will be that we're stealing energy meant to regulate the Earth's weather.

And maybe we are. But that's the kind of thinking that today's watermelons won't tolerate.

Posted by: Reality at September 04, 2023 05:02 PM (nraLl)

44 Tap the Earth's Ass?

Like a Viking!
Global But Secks!

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko stuff at September 04, 2023 05:03 PM (d1RkJ)

45 Nood was already?

Posted by: Skip at September 04, 2023 05:03 PM (MOY79)

46 ...maybe the Mole Men trying to wipe out the Surface-Dweller...

Not Mole Men but C.H.U.D.

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at September 04, 2023 05:04 PM (AiZBA)

47 The Earth's core is 5-million degrees Fahrenheit!

Posted by: al gore, carbon credit billionaire at September 04, 2023 05:04 PM (krqg6)

48 ... release that chakra!!!

Posted by: al gore, carbon credit billionaire at September 04, 2023 05:04 PM (krqg6)

49 Isn't Iceland doing this ?

Posted by: Skip at September 04, 2023 05:05 PM (MOY79)

50 Raw Earth steam is full of minerals and they plate out on turbine blades. Just can't do it. Ugly. For temporary use perhaps.

Best to use the Earth steam to heat pure water for turbine steam supply.

Posted by: torabora at September 04, 2023 05:05 PM (MALyz)

51 It makes me sick every time I think about the lost opportunity costs to this nation by going nuclear instead of renewable horsesh!t.

Posted by: GL at September 04, 2023 04:59 PM (5fDan)

Ooops - I meant to write:

It makes me sick every time I think about the lost opportunity costs to this nation by going to renewable horsesh!t instead of nuclear.

Posted by: GL at September 04, 2023 05:05 PM (5fDan)

52 Weren't the Morlocks' machines powered by geothermal stream?

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at September 04, 2023 05:05 PM (pIx7m)

53 No. Because incompetent faszizts in charge will eff it upand blow up the earth by accident.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at September 04, 2023 05:06 PM (vHIgi)

54 They are not interested in energy production, they are just interested in stopping conventional energy production.

All forms of energy production seem environmentally benign, until you try to scale them up to a level where they do something useful.

It's only then that you start noticing that you're killing raptors and whales with your "benign" technology.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 04, 2023 05:06 PM (2tUFv)

55 The crazy thing is that there are bacteria like microbes living in the deep crust of the earth and no one understands how they survive. There's a school of thought promoted by the Russians that oil is actually being made right now in the crust.

It is really amazing how little we know about things we cannot see.

Posted by: pawn at September 04, 2023 05:07 PM (wsHtO)

56 In a sagebrush valley full of wind turbines and solar panels in western Utah, Tim Latimer gazed up at a very different device he believes could be just as powerful for fighting climate change -- maybe even more.
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Then three shots cut the night -- bag! bang! bang! -- and Tim, like a windmill in a hurricane, crumpled to the ground.

Posted by: Moron Book of the Month Club at September 04, 2023 05:07 PM (krqg6)

57 26 ' a source of renewable power that could help displace fossil fuels that are dangerously warming the planet.'
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You can smell the grift.

Posted by: Braenyard at September 04, 2023 05:07 PM (aDPLI)

58 From this I gather that the idea of bolting a bunch of rocket engines to Greenland and setting them all off to push the Earth into an orbit that's farther from the sun, ist kaput?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 04, 2023 05:07 PM (bQKgA)

59 err steam

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at September 04, 2023 05:07 PM (pIx7m)

60 1,000 to 1 Hawaii still votes Demoncrat in the next election and then complain that the Government sucks .............

Posted by: Frank N. Stien at September 04, 2023 05:08 PM (/Qz4j)

61 If memory serves, the science and technology behind Mohole was totally fine but the project itself was an object lesson in why civilian government agencies can't get anything done.

So if geothermal's gonna get anywhere it needs someone like Elon Musk who puts practical solutions above building great intangible temples to The Science. Come to think of it, that guy famously put a bunch of money into a drilling company...

Posted by: CppThis at September 04, 2023 05:08 PM (PZvjL)

62 "One worry the Times mentions is that drilling so far down could cause earthquakes,"

That was either "Our Man Flint" or "In Like Flint."

Posted by: gp Resides Above Ordinary Subjectivity at September 04, 2023 05:08 PM (MvF+J)

63 If we tap the Earth for heat it will slow the planet's rotation and eventually one side will be Antarctica frozen solid and the other Scottsdale broiling hot.

I don't need any evidence for this but I do want that Nobel Prize money.

Posted by: torabora at September 04, 2023 05:09 PM (MALyz)

64 47 The Earth's core is 5-million degrees Fahrenheit!

We must do something about the runaway Greenhouse Effect at the Earth's core to control Global Warming !!!!!!!

Posted by: Frank N. Stien at September 04, 2023 05:09 PM (/Qz4j)

65 Skip, I mentioned earlier about Iceland.

Geothermal there has pretty much turned out to be a boutique energy source there because it turns out to be very inefficient and does not scale well.

Posted by: pawn at September 04, 2023 05:10 PM (wsHtO)

66 There's a school of thought promoted by the Russians that oil is actually being made right now in the crust.

>>>

Abiotic oil and abiogenesis.

It's obviously true that oil isn't biotic. It's just crazy talk. Obviously crazy talk. Even if it is drilled into everyones heads.

I have no position in the RUS theory. But they aren't having issues with oil to say the least.

Fossil Fuel is up there with Darwinism as silly ideas.

Posted by: Thesokorus at September 04, 2023 05:10 PM (twjRB)

67 Tap the Earth's ass, ace please don't give the LGBT people any ideas

Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 04, 2023 05:10 PM (43q0X)

68 From this I gather that the idea of bolting a bunch of rocket engines to Greenland and setting them all off to push the Earth into an orbit that's farther from the sun, ist kaput?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 04, 2023 05:07 PM (bQKgA)
****
Trump wants to buy Greenland.
Hmmmm

Posted by: torabora at September 04, 2023 05:10 PM (MALyz)

69 Don't do it!!! It's gonna tip!!!

Posted by: Hank Johnson at September 04, 2023 05:11 PM (V8he0)

70 Steam Heat record...

http://tinyurl.com/muhxntep
4:27 it looks like the movie version isn't at YT. Copyright dicks!!! [Just a Bob Fosse version.]

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at September 04, 2023 05:12 PM (krqg6)

71 God created the earth and it is perfect. No way want any of these idiot leaders we have today to do anything to alter the current state of the earth and it's orbit..........

Posted by: Frank N. Stien at September 04, 2023 05:13 PM (/Qz4j)

72 61 If memory serves, the science and technology behind Mohole was totally fine but the project itself was an object lesson in why civilian government agencies can't get anything done.
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Then a crooked politician, who happened to be married to Brown & Root, got involved.

Posted by: Braenyard at September 04, 2023 05:13 PM (aDPLI)

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5 There are considerable dangers involved in going deep enough to harvest enough thermal energy to make the effort worth while. Does anyone remember the MOHOLE project...and why it was abandoned?
Posted by: Francis W. Porretto at September 04, 2023 04:44 PM (Nmmyc)

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Nuclear power also employs a lot of highly skilled workers and engineers locally. We are talking solid upper middle class jobs and a tax base that will be there as long as the power plant is running.

Even the security force is a middle class income. Best part? Everyone is drug free too.

Posted by: rd at September 04, 2023 05:13 PM (fmuRf)

74 I saw this movie

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 04, 2023 05:13 PM (EVR4i)

75 Fossil Fuel is up there with Darwinism as silly ideas.

Posted by: Thesokorus at September 04, 2023 05:10 PM (twjRB)

Again, I could be convinced that we've got the "easy oil", and there is a certain level of produced hydro-carbons and perhaps we've eaten into the margins.

But if anyone believes that there is a finite amount of them ? Then the only logical move would be to go crazy on getting the Hell off this rock, or mining the shit out of the solar system. Which we are not doing.

Posted by: Reality at September 04, 2023 05:13 PM (nraLl)

76 If you suck too much heat out of the earth, the molten core will eventually cool, its viscosity will increase, and the dynamo action that drives our magnetosphere will slow. Without our magnetosphere, our atmosphere will be eventually ripped off by the solar wind. We end up with Mars.

Posted by: gp Resides Above Ordinary Subjectivity at September 04, 2023 05:14 PM (MvF+J)

77 Eavor!!!

Posted by: Eavor, carrying young Justin on his shoulders at September 04, 2023 05:14 PM (krqg6)

78 Didn't I already watch these episodes titled "Inferno" on Doctor Who (Jon Pertwee) and Stargate Atlantis?

Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at September 04, 2023 05:14 PM (vCXKu)

79 I saw Tap Earth's Ass open for Earth, Wind, and Fire.

Posted by: torabora at September 04, 2023 05:14 PM (MALyz)

80 Is It Time to Tap the Earth's Ass?

Why limit it to just the Earth's? To paraphrase Oprah, "Uranus, and Uranus, and Uranus" could be tapped for clean, currently under-appreciated energy!

Posted by: Eric Swalwell (D-CA) at September 04, 2023 05:14 PM (a3Q+t)

81 The crazy thing is that there are bacteria like microbes living in the deep crust of the earth and no one understands how they survive. There's a school of thought promoted by the Russians that oil is actually being made right now in the crust.

It is really amazing how little we know about things we cannot see.
Posted by: pawn at September 04, 2023 05:07 PM (wsHtO)

True. I now lean toward the theory that oil is abiotic. Especially since we discovered that planets and moons have a natural tendency toward the benzine ring.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at September 04, 2023 05:14 PM (BdMk6)

82 Just got here.
Murkowski is probably pushing it because it is good for drilling industry. (The HOLES, man. lotsa HOLES!)

Big downside is that whatever you pump down to extract heat comes up full of shit that clogs up everything. It is as useless as wind and solar, so probably why the Left loves it.

Posted by: Fetterman's Lump at September 04, 2023 05:14 PM (rTIH8)

83 Saw one idiot had an idea to put solar panels at GeoSynch Orbit to create energy and reduce Global Warming by blocking the Sun ............

Posted by: Frank N. Stien at September 04, 2023 05:15 PM (/Qz4j)

84 "Does anyone remember the MOHOLE project...and why it was abandoned?"

Because of the MOHOLE HOMOLES.

Like reverse hillbillies.

Only gay.

And moles.

Posted by: naturalfake at September 04, 2023 05:15 PM (QzZeQ)

85 66 Fossil Fuel is up there with Darwinism as silly ideas.
Posted by: Thesokorus at September 04, 2023 05:10 PM (twjRB)

The trouble with Social Darwinism is that it's a bit like 17th century piracy: eventually everyone else figures out what they're up to, and they quickly and quite reasonably set aside local disputes for a bit of that hostis humani generis action.

Posted by: CppThis at September 04, 2023 05:15 PM (PZvjL)

86 But if anyone believes that there is a finite amount of them ? Then the only logical move would be to go crazy on getting the Hell off this rock, or mining the shit out of the solar system. Which we are not doing.
Posted by: Reality at September 04, 2023 05:13 PM (nraLl)

Oil is probably functionally infinite. But oh jesus do I want to mine the fuck out of the universe.

Posted by: Thesokorus at September 04, 2023 05:15 PM (twjRB)

87 71 God created the earth and it is perfect. No way want any of these idiot leaders we have today to do anything to alter the current state of the earth and it's orbit..........

Posted by: Frank N. Stien at September 04, 2023 05:13 PM (/Qz4j)

I can do those things. At no cost to you humans.

Posted by: SMOD at September 04, 2023 05:15 PM (5fDan)

88 I saw "Crack in the World" at the opening in 1965, and I do own an original movie poster from it.

Posted by: gp Resides Above Ordinary Subjectivity at September 04, 2023 05:15 PM (MvF+J)

89 Tap da erf’s ass? Awwww helll yeah.

Posted by: Rappers at September 04, 2023 05:16 PM (q3Ehi)

90 "It's obviously true that oil isn't biotic. It's just crazy talk. Obviously crazy talk."

It would be crazy talk if there was a verifiable competing theory.

Posted by: pawn at September 04, 2023 05:16 PM (wsHtO)

91 I saw Tap Earth's Ass open for Earth, Wind, and Fire.
Posted by: torabora at September 04, 2023 05:14 PM (MALyz)

Fuck. I was in Rikers that week.

Posted by: Thesokorus at September 04, 2023 05:17 PM (twjRB)

92 Then the only logical move would be to go crazy on getting the Hell off this rock, ....

I know him.

Posted by: Braenyard at September 04, 2023 05:18 PM (aDPLI)

93 There is really no such things as Fossil Fuels.... Oil, Coal and Natural Gas are products of the Earth Geo-Processes. The theory that these come from Dinosaur Fossils is rediculous.

Posted by: Frank N. Stien at September 04, 2023 05:18 PM (/Qz4j)

94 It would be crazy talk if there was a verifiable competing theory.
Posted by: pawn at September 04, 2023 05:16 PM (wsHtO)

Lol. You sound like the global warmer climate change-ists.

Posted by: Thesokorus at September 04, 2023 05:18 PM (twjRB)

95 Spinal tap the earth, to anesthetize it against the pain of our drilling.

Posted by: gp Resides Above Ordinary Subjectivity at September 04, 2023 05:18 PM (MvF+J)

96 82 Just got here.
Murkowski is probably pushing it because it is good for drilling industry. (The HOLES, man. lotsa HOLES!)

Big downside is that whatever you pump down to extract heat comes up full of shit that clogs up everything. It is as useless as wind and solar, so probably why the Left loves it.

Posted by: Fetterman's Lump at September 04, 2023 05:14 PM (rTIH

Nothing is impossible to persons who don't have to do it themselves.

Posted by: GL at September 04, 2023 05:18 PM (5fDan)

97 checklist for left energy advocacy

[ ] low energy potential
[ ] high legal and permitting burdens so gov. maintains control
[ ] "not proven" so requires lots of funding and gov subsidies
[ ] destructive to habitats
[ ] not coal, oil, gas, or nuclear

Posted by: Fetterman's Lump at September 04, 2023 05:18 PM (rTIH8)

98 You know what could provide "cheap", clean energy for millions of years? A Dyson Sphere!
Get on it greenies! While you are at it why don't you produce some Zero Point Harvester?!
That will do the ticket! #UnicornFarts

Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at September 04, 2023 05:19 PM (vCXKu)

99 If we can dig deep enough, we can make steam engines that produce energy from the earth's heat.
-
That's not as good an idea as it sounds

Posted by: Durin at September 04, 2023 05:19 PM (Dnobf)

100 If we could figure out a way to get the yellowstone caldera to blow, it would satisfy our energy needs until the end of civilization.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy

If that blows you would certainly see the 'end of civilization' in many State both near and far.
Zone map of damage: https://is.gd/WOTuMP

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 04, 2023 05:19 PM (KWwlz)

101
Tap that azz:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/When_the_World_Screamed

Posted by: pawn at September 04, 2023 05:20 PM (wsHtO)

102 I think we should move the Earth's orbit around the Sun to 70 Million Miles so that Solar panels become more efficient

Posted by: Frank N. Stien at September 04, 2023 05:20 PM (/Qz4j)

103 Does anyone remember the MOHOLE project...and why it was abandoned?
Posted by: Francis W. Porretto

Yes. it was tragic. The cracking of the earth's core caused the alternative earth to be destroyed, but not before Doctor Who escaped and stopped the project in our own reality....

-or-

It caused a huge part of the earths crust to rip out and became a new moon. Saw that one on Creature Feature.

Posted by: Justin Castreau at September 04, 2023 05:20 PM (V8yYW)

104 For the record, this approach of DEEP MINING allows free smelting in Dwarf Fortress. And you gotta do it (I think) to work with Adamantite.

Posted by: Thesokorus at September 04, 2023 05:21 PM (twjRB)

105 If only we had an inexhaustible source of energy like the Sun's rays or the Earth's interior core heat, or the uranium available in the solar system.

Posted by: torabora at September 04, 2023 05:21 PM (MALyz)

106 Drill too deep in the wrong place and...Pffffft!!!!... Planet Earth goes flying around the solar system like a party balloon, and us along with it.

Posted by: Muldoon at September 04, 2023 05:21 PM (991eG)

107 "Zone map of damage"

Not as dire as I thought! I figured it was a global extinction type thing. Here in Zone 6, we'll be fine.

Posted by: gp Resides Above Ordinary Subjectivity at September 04, 2023 05:22 PM (MvF+J)

108 "You sound like the global warmer climate change-ists."

You need to do better than that.

Posted by: pawn at September 04, 2023 05:22 PM (wsHtO)

109 The greenies already hate fracking and say it pollutes groundwater and whatnot. If geothermal gets viable they will decide that using all that water for the fracking is killing the rivers plus all the usual rants about fracking in general.

In the meantime its a grift opportunity and Squirrel to divert attention away from how poorly wind and solar do at powering anything.

I'm good with putting in the power plants to tap into fairly easy energy from the exisiting hot springs geological features but one only has to look at how the greenies view hydro electric plants to know they will hate geothermal the second it becomes viable.

Posted by: PaleRider at September 04, 2023 05:22 PM (3cGpq)

110 How soon until Scwab starts ranting about vril?

Posted by: Thesokorus at September 04, 2023 05:23 PM (twjRB)

111 How are we going to put that stuff in the gas tank?

Posted by: Braenyard at September 04, 2023 05:23 PM (aDPLI)

112 "You sound like the global warmer climate change-ists."

You need to do better than that.
Posted by: pawn at September 04, 2023 05:22 PM (wsHtO)

Hahahah. No you do.

Posted by: Thesokorus at September 04, 2023 05:23 PM (twjRB)

113 What could go wrong?? Meanwhile, ...

A surge in AI-generated mushroom foraging books on Amazon has raised alarms among experts, who warn that such guides, filled with misinformation about poisonous mushrooms, could pose life-threatening risks to consumers.

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at September 04, 2023 05:23 PM (krqg6)

114 If that blows you would certainly see the 'end of civilization' in many State both near and far.
Zone map of damage: https://is.gd/WOTuMP
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 04, 2023 05:19 PM (KWwlz)

Yeah, but it's a bit less damaging than Cat Ass Trophy's plan to crash the Moon into the Earth.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at September 04, 2023 05:24 PM (/HDaX)

115 The Sun is not the instrument that "heats" the Earth's core and deep crust. Ol' Sol surely warms the surface as it basks in the rays, but the deep stuff has a deeper engine.

The Earth's CORE is a large sphere of molten iron and nickel. And what *keeps* it molten? The constant gravitational tugging of the moon as it orbits the earth. That molten sphere is slightly egg-shaped on the moonward side, and that moonward side is constantly moving, stirring the molten core. Keeps it VERY hot; the forces involved are Planetary in scale (and 1/6th planetary in moon).

And it's that core generation that does indeed "cook" the rocks above, constantly pressing out new and interesting things like gold, silver, minerals, gems... and oils.

Otherwise, we'd have run outta dead dinosaurs a helluva long time ago.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at September 04, 2023 05:24 PM (e6UQI)

116 Ok dude,

Where does oil come from?

Posted by: pawn at September 04, 2023 05:25 PM (wsHtO)

117
It's the giant monster that would be awaken if you drill to deep is the concern.

Posted by: Potato Of The United States at September 04, 2023 05:25 PM (t6XCL)

118 Where, geographically, is the the Earth's ass? Discuss.

Posted by: Linda Richman of Coffee Talk at September 04, 2023 05:26 PM (pIx7m)

119 100% this is going to benefit a Democrat oligarch in some way .

Posted by: Montec at September 04, 2023 05:26 PM (q3Ehi)

120 "And what *keeps* it molten?"

I think it's radioactive decay that keeps it hot.

Posted by: gp Resides Above Ordinary Subjectivity at September 04, 2023 05:26 PM (MvF+J)

121 Otherwise, we'd have run outta dead dinosaurs a helluva long time ago.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at September 04, 2023 05:24 PM (e6UQI)

I am admittedly a lunatic crank. But I do think that gold was deposited on the earth when it passed through a comet's corona and or tail.

The distribution is very weird and the Till indicates we did have a deposit event.

Posted by: Thesokorus at September 04, 2023 05:27 PM (twjRB)

122 Tap it! Tap it hard!

Posted by: fd at September 04, 2023 05:27 PM (vFG9F)

123 Oil is probably functionally infinite. But oh jesus do I want to mine the fuck out of the universe.

That's how I felt during High School.

Posted by: Reality at September 04, 2023 05:28 PM (nraLl)

124 From NatGeo:

"The primary contributors to heat in the core are the decay of radioactive elements, leftover heat from planetary formation, and heat released as the liquid outer core solidifies near its boundary with the inner core."

Posted by: gp Resides Above Ordinary Subjectivity at September 04, 2023 05:28 PM (MvF+J)

125 You Proles are missing the big picture. This technology means we can stand up a new Hot Rock Energy Administration under the Department Energy to study how to use the heat, but never quite get it commercially viable, and create a new Division in the EPA to make sure they are never allowed to. Think of all the Federal jobs that will create!

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at September 04, 2023 05:29 PM (SBN29)

126 Only a wild man would propose such a thing! There's nothing green or sustainable about this proposal, only rape.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at September 04, 2023 05:30 PM (KVGVf)

127 118 Where, geographically, is the the Earth's ass? Discuss.

Posted by: Linda Richman of Coffee Talk at September 04, 2023 05:26 PM (pIx7m)

Antarsectica

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at September 04, 2023 05:30 PM (qPw5n)

128 Where, geographically, is the the Earth's ass? Discuss.
---------
Joisey.

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at September 04, 2023 05:30 PM (krqg6)

129 Here in Zone 6, we'll be fine.
Posted by: gp Resides

As long as the Zone 6 area doesn't rely on any destroyed infrastructure from the other zones.
Livestock? Power, Water, etc...

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 04, 2023 05:30 PM (KWwlz)

130 Where, geographically, is the the Earth's ass? Discuss.

Posted by: Linda Richman

In July it's Houston.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 04, 2023 05:30 PM (KWwlz)

131 Any mention of Old Mitch reminds me. It is arguable that the most important election this fall may be KY's for governor. I understand we're behind, but not out of it. If we could take that, we can get rid of Mitch, and get at least a probably C-.

Posted by: Eeyore at September 04, 2023 05:30 PM (brAQZ)

132 I think I first heard about digging down to the Earth's mantle on the Art Bell show in 1990s. The expert on that episode said it was a great idea and would solve all our energy problems. However there was one small problem: it would unleash demons and that we would all go deaf from their screaming. I didn't sleep for days after that show and wore hearing protection for a couple months.

Posted by: Lost In Space at September 04, 2023 05:31 PM (jlbtb)

133 I don't believe anything these people say. They are fanatics. They are not interested in energy production, they are just interested in stopping conventional energy production. And they'll lie (to us and to themselves) about the feasibility of anything which might, possibly, reduce the production of conventional energy.

---------------------

This is where I stand now, I don't believe anything they spruik. It's just another boondoggle for which they want our money. If they are convinced it will work they can put it to the green billionaires for financing and come back to us when they have proven their power source is cheap, plentiful and reliable.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at September 04, 2023 05:31 PM (3JfbU)

134 If we really believed in wind turbines, why isn't DC ringed with them?

Posted by: Eeyore at September 04, 2023 05:31 PM (brAQZ)

135
Spinal tap the earth, to anesthetize it against the pain of our drilling.
Posted by: gp Resides Above Ordinary Subjectivity

And turn it up to eleven.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 04, 2023 05:31 PM (63Dwl)

136 >Ok dude,

Where does oil come from?

who here will take up the challenge

Posted by: DB - at September 04, 2023 05:31 PM (geLO8)

137 Where, geographically, is the the Earth's ass? Discuss.

Posted by: Linda Richman

In July it's Houston.
Posted by: AZ deplorable

I was going to suggest Hibbing, MN.

Posted by: Lost In Space at September 04, 2023 05:31 PM (jlbtb)

138 I think I first heard about digging down to the Earth's mantle on the Art Bell show in 1990s. The expert on that episode said it was a great idea and would solve all our energy problems. However there was one small problem: it would unleash demons and that we would all go deaf from their screaming. I didn't sleep for days after that show and wore hearing protection for a couple months.
Posted by: Lost In Space at September 04, 2023 05:31 PM (jlbtb)

Was this the genesis of Mel's Hole?

Because that was some gooooood radio.

Posted by: Thesokorus at September 04, 2023 05:32 PM (twjRB)

139 ""Does anyone remember the MOHOLE project... and why it was abandoned?"

*whistles, looks at ceiling*

Posted by: The Mole People at September 04, 2023 05:32 PM (vFG9F)

140 118 Where, geographically, is the the Earth's ass? Discuss.

Athol, Massachusetts.

Posted by: GL at September 04, 2023 05:32 PM (5fDan)

141 >If we really believed in wind turbines, why isn't DC ringed with them?

DC has restrictions on building height

Posted by: DB - at September 04, 2023 05:32 PM (geLO8)

142 Superman vs. The Mole Men was very disturbing to me as a nine year old. I had no idea there were bald dwarfs living right under my feet. Almost as bad as monsters under the bed.

Posted by: Scarred For Life at September 04, 2023 05:33 PM (83IzV)

143 pose life-threatening risks to consumers.
Posted by: andycanuck

Not true, it would improve the gene-pool by eliminating people who believe anything they find on the Internet.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 04, 2023 05:33 PM (KWwlz)

144 "Where does oil come from?
who here will take up the challenge
Posted by: DB"

I know! Soybeans!

Posted by: fd at September 04, 2023 05:33 PM (vFG9F)

145 I think I prefer micro nuclear plants. Before the human race is ready for these, terrorism needs to be solved. So. we're doomed.

Posted by: sTevo at September 04, 2023 05:34 PM (8i+57)

146 Just heard that Jimmy Buffet passed.
Didn't know was still alive...

Last time I heard him in the news was like 25 years ago when he was suing some little restaurant in Paradise, BFE because they had "cheeseburger" on the menu. Claimed he had a trademark on cheeseburger in Paradise.
They had to rename it "Royale with Cheese".

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at September 04, 2023 05:34 PM (ga8qR)

147 300°? Al Gore says the interior of the Earth is several million degrees!

http://tinyurl.com/2aufjztz

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at September 04, 2023 05:34 PM (FVME7)

148 I think I first heard about digging down to the Earth's mantle on the Art Bell show in 1990s. The expert on that episode said it was a great idea and would solve all our energy problems. However there was one small problem: it would unleash demons and that we would all go deaf from their screaming. I didn't sleep for days after that show and wore hearing protection for a couple months.
Posted by: Lost In Space at September 04, 2023 05:31 PM (jlbtb)

Was this the genesis of Mel's Hole?

Because that was some gooooood radio.
Posted by: Thesokorus at September 04, 2023 05:32 PM (twjRB)

Art Bell was a marketing genius. Always entertaining.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at September 04, 2023 05:34 PM (BdMk6)

149 Re: fracking and earthquakes:

You can't have an earthquake unless the strain is already there in the rock. Earthquakes are when the rock snaps and the two sides of the fault spring back to their lower strain, lower energy position.

Naturally that movement is pretty violent and sudden. But if fracking helps to cause lots of small releases of the strains I don't see how it can be hurting at all. It seems in fact to be releasing in a safe somewhat controlled way the energy that might otherwise be released as a giant event.

Maybe fracking could set off a large release and that would be bad. But for years there were serious conversations about injecting water in the San Andreas fault to sort of lubricate it and help the energy release in small steps.

Posted by: TexasDan at September 04, 2023 05:35 PM (X7yt5)

150 Geothermal energy is being exploited in Iceland, for obvious reasons.

Another place where it could be tapped is the Big Island of Hawaii: there's active volcanoes and natural hot springs, and electric power is extremely expensive (in 2022, it averaged 48 cents per kilowatt hour for residential customers, versus a nationwide average of 17 cents). However, the state government claims that all geothermal energy belongs to it, which pretty much puts the kibosh on private development of geothermal electricity; and the Hawaiian state government shows all the competence one expects of a Democratic-Party fiefdom. So, I expect geothermal to be yet another greendoggle.

Posted by: Nemo at September 04, 2023 05:35 PM (S6ArX)

151 Yeah when they let that microphone down in Mel's hole that was classic Art Bell.

Posted by: fd at September 04, 2023 05:36 PM (vFG9F)

152 Forgot to mention that Guy Benson is a squish fop.

Posted by: Scarred For Life at September 04, 2023 05:36 PM (83IzV)

153 >>>>Ok dude,

Where does oil come from?

who here will take up the challenge

Posted by: DB

>Dude. Where does Taco Bell come from? You're like, two orders of magnitude out of this generation's cognitive domain and vocabulary.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at September 04, 2023 05:36 PM (KVGVf)

154 Im guessing these assholes patented a bunch of unproven technology, and they can push this to try and get the government to give them billions of dollars using their exclusive patents, to which they'll just futz around for a few years and then state they ran in to unforeseen problems, while pocketing billions.
Posted by: Rbastid

That is an unfounded lie!
~V.R.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 04, 2023 05:37 PM (KWwlz)

155 Superman vs. The Mole Men was very disturbing to me as a nine year old. I had no idea there were bald dwarfs living right under my feet. Almost as bad as monsters under the bed.
Posted by: Scarred For Life at September 04, 2023 05:33 PM (83IzV)

You should send a nice thank you note to Under Dog. He is the one who defeated the Mole Men in a 2 part episode.

Posted by: Beartooth at September 04, 2023 05:38 PM (azYCi)

156 Where does oil come from? who here will take up the challenge

The same place all matter comes from. I know you're just asking, but in a cosmic sense, that really is my point.

I'll give it to those first alarmists back in the 70s. If you're working on a zero-sum model, maybe we were on the verge of tapping everything out. You look at the scale we consume, and scale it up based upon measurable data ? I can see why an honest man would be alarmed.

Yet, we don't have to keep digging "deeper" - in a relative sense - to find more resources. We're not strip-mining the planet dry. That's the thing we should be studying. We're not at the edge, but an honest study of what that edge point really is would be a good thing to know.

Posted by: Reality at September 04, 2023 05:39 PM (nraLl)

157 >>>Where, geographically, is the the Earth's ass? Discuss.

Posted by: Linda Richman of Coffee Talk

>Somewhere out on a remote Nevada mud flat a cock crowed.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at September 04, 2023 05:39 PM (KVGVf)

158 I find it frustrating that people fail to understand it will take the efficient, concerted and total exploitation of all available sources to perform the amount of space mining (planet rayp) I require.

Posted by: Thesokorus at September 04, 2023 05:39 PM (twjRB)

159 "You should send a nice thank you note to Under Dog. He is the one who defeated the Mole Men in a 2 part episode.
Posted by: Beartooth"

It's not a big deal. All you need is a flashlight.

Posted by: zombie John Agar at September 04, 2023 05:39 PM (vFG9F)

160 Mole men vs CHUD vs Morlocks. Who wins?

Posted by: gp Resides Above Ordinary Subjectivity at September 04, 2023 05:40 PM (MvF+J)

161 UnStomp NOOD

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 04, 2023 05:40 PM (KWwlz)

162 Pointer Sisters.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2pZXjb6aCy8

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at September 04, 2023 05:40 PM (FVME7)

163 when I posted 'who here will take up the challenge' I just meant who here would attempt to answer the question

the rest was someone else's comment

Posted by: DB - at September 04, 2023 05:41 PM (geLO8)

164 But NOOOOOOO. They are totes against everything nuclear because reasons. It makes me sick every time I think about the lost opportunity costs to this nation by going nuclear instead of renewable horsesh!t.
Posted by: GL at September 04, 2023 04:59 PM (5fDan)

--------------

This applies to the rest of the West where degeneracy has set in. China and India don't have idiots for leaders so they continue to use fossil fuels while they can get them.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at September 04, 2023 05:41 PM (3JfbU)

165 nood, thus moot

Posted by: DB - at September 04, 2023 05:41 PM (geLO8)

166 Tap an uncontrollable heat source and add water to expand the available access point. What could possibly go wrong.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at September 04, 2023 05:41 PM (YRsIm)

167 There's a town in Costa Rica, Guyabo I think, that has a geo-thermal instillation that is functioning now. It's been running for a least twenty years. One of my ex-in laws worked there for awhile and took us on a tour of the facility.

Posted by: Fla sob at September 04, 2023 05:41 PM (LUngJ)

168 Oil comes from organic material being smushed and squished and heated and mistreated beneath the Earth's crust and then pooled in convenient locations for us to access and enjoy.

Posted by: fd at September 04, 2023 05:42 PM (vFG9F)

169 If you blieve that Climate Change is an existential threat and you're not for Modern Nukes, then you can go self-immolate in front of a Chinese embassy.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 04, 2023 05:42 PM (RqMSv)

170 fd, come on down and pick up the keys to your new Buick

Posted by: DB - at September 04, 2023 05:43 PM (geLO8)

171 Mole Men should seek out First Nation status. Open underground casinos. Cash cow.

Posted by: I Sue You, ACLU at September 04, 2023 05:43 PM (83IzV)

172 Just heard that Jimmy Buffet passed.
Didn't know was still alive...

Last time I heard him in the news was like 25 years ago when he was suing some little restaurant in Paradise, BFE because they had "cheeseburger" on the menu. Claimed he had a trademark on cheeseburger in Paradise. They had to rename it "Royale with Cheese".
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher

From Wikipedia: A chain named Cheeseburger Restaurants based in Portola, California had one of their restaurants located in oceanfront Lahaina, Hawaii, also named "Cheeseburger in Paradise". This chain, which began in 1989, has no relation to Jimmy Buffett's business. Buffett sued the owners in 1997. After a four-year legal battle, a settlement was reached that allowed Laren Gartner and Edna Bayliff to keep the name at their existing restaurants in Lahaina and Waikiki but prevented them from using it at any additional locations.[14] This location burned down due to a wildfire in August 2023.

And shortly after the fire Buffet kicks off. I am positive the two events are connected; likely a plot by the fake meat lobby or cricket farmers.

Posted by: Lost In Space at September 04, 2023 05:43 PM (jlbtb)

173 If the location is practical for thermal energy, then go for it. Iceland has been doing it for decades. But until this is proven a reliable and workable source, we will need the already-proven methods to keep the modern world moving.

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It works for Iceland because the hot air is close to the surface due to volcanic and geyser activity. The only place where the same would work in the US is Yellowstone.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at September 04, 2023 05:44 PM (3JfbU)

174 If Kentucky is important, it stays blue. Every dumb idea gets a check and the government gets a few more votes

Posted by: Jamaica NYC at September 04, 2023 05:44 PM (Eeb9P)

175 The Left HATES good paying jobs for the white middle class.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at September 04, 2023 05:44 PM (8fpTj)

176 Oil is formed from biomass, primarily in the form of giant ferns from the primeval rain forests. The ferns are subsumed deep within the crust where time and pressure turn them into petroleum in a never ending cycle. So there is no need to (as ace so eloquently puts it) Tap the Earth's ass!

Or to put it another way,

WITH FRONDS LIKE THAT, WHO NEEDS ENEMAS?

Posted by: Muldoon at September 04, 2023 05:45 PM (991eG)

177 113 What could go wrong?? Meanwhile, ...

A surge in AI-generated mushroom foraging books on Amazon has raised alarms among experts, who warn that such guides, filled with misinformation about poisonous mushrooms, could pose life-threatening risks to consumers.

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at September 04, 2023 05:23 PM (krqg6)

First action in AI's extermination plans for humans.

Posted by: Javems at September 04, 2023 05:46 PM (8I4hW)

178 I forgot to mention that the Costa Rican government sells most of the power to Nicaragua at a sub-rate compared to the rate Ticos pay.

Posted by: Fla sob at September 04, 2023 05:46 PM (LUngJ)

179 There is a good older sci-fi story that explains why it is just as well we have not embraced nuclear energy.

Plot is a nuclear company forced by the unions et al to hire someone unsuitable, who ends up causing a system meltdown. This was in the 60s I think, possibly even the 50s.

Now think of the kids being taught they can change their gender in today's 'schools' and ask yourself if you'd be comfortable with some nuclear plant being forced to hire an unstable tranny for an important safety role.

Posted by: PaleRider at September 04, 2023 05:48 PM (3cGpq)

180 Nobody knows where crude oil comes from just like nobody knows how a lightbulb works or how magnets work.

It's Fucking Science!

Posted by: Dr. Bone at September 04, 2023 05:49 PM (KVGVf)

181 I remember about a decade ago the Naval Laboratories discovered that with natural gas, salt water, iron, heat, and pressure that they could catalytically form oil. It was considered a big deal, and then I didn’t hear anything else about it.

But considering that natural gas is a leftover from planetary formation, and that almost all oil and gas deposits also have helium with them, I think that’s the explanation for where oil comes from.

Remember, titans atmosphere is all methane and assorted hydrocarbons. So I’m pretty sure there’s a lot deep down. That’s the Russian theory, btw. Drill deep enough and you’ll find oil. The naval work confirms that theory.

FWIW, there is considered to be at least a thousand years of ch4 in methane clathrates on the ocean floor, formed from methane bubbling up and freezing in pockets. So we have lots of “hydrocarbon” fuel.

Posted by: Justin Castreau at September 04, 2023 05:51 PM (V8yYW)

182 The circle of life. Dinosaur eats fern. Dinosaur eats other dinosaur. Dinosaur turns into oil. Oil creates advanced civilization. Advanced civilization creates time machine. Time machine brings back ferns and dinosaurs. Rinse, repeat.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at September 04, 2023 05:51 PM (FVME7)

183 It works for Iceland because the hot air is close to the surface due to volcanic and geyser activity. The only place where the same would work in the US is Yellowstone.
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Explode a nuke in the Caldera to access it!!

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at September 04, 2023 05:53 PM (krqg6)

184 Theoretically you can drill anywhere and reach sufficient heat levels, some areas the heat is closer to the surface.

Posted by: Fla sob at September 04, 2023 05:56 PM (LUngJ)

185 It was freaken 96 outside in DC today. We don't need no freaken drilling LOL

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 04, 2023 05:57 PM (EVR4i)

186 Oil is formed from biomass, primarily in the form of giant ferns from the primeval rain forests. The ferns are subsumed deep within the crust where time and pressure turn them into petroleum in a never ending cycle.

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This is why we need to save the rainforest. If we don't, in 100,000,000 years, we'll be screwed!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at September 04, 2023 05:58 PM (FVME7)

187 If Kentucky is important, it stays blue. Every dumb idea gets a check and the government gets a few more votes
Posted by: Jamaica NYC at September 04, 2023 05:44 PM (Eeb9P)

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How can Kentucky be blue when conservatives are moving there to escape from blue states?

Posted by: President Select Decaf at September 04, 2023 05:59 PM (3JfbU)

188 Bio-mass=coal. Current theory is that petroleum is a continuing process. Most probably from sub-sumated algae and other ancient oceanic micro organisms.

Posted by: Fla sob at September 04, 2023 06:01 PM (LUngJ)

189 also named "Cheeseburger in Paradise". This chain, which began in 1989, has no relation to Jimmy Buffett's business. Buffett sued the owners in 1997.

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Michael Jackson's estate should sue Hunter Biden for Smooth Criminal.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at September 04, 2023 06:02 PM (FVME7)

190 I'm not a scientist
Well, I am an engineer. And I will say the biggest problem is that we don't know much about the interior of the Earth, and therefore don't know much of anything about what f*ing around with sucking heat out of the interior and cracking rocs at that level might do.

But ponder this:
There's a reason we build buildings on bedrock, if we can. And the sand we're not supposed to build on is really just itty-bitty pieces of broken rock....

Posted by: GWB at September 04, 2023 06:04 PM (rPEZU)

191 There's a reason we build buildings on bedrock, if we can. And the sand we're not supposed to build on is really just itty-bitty pieces of broken rock....
Posted by: GWB

I read a book about the comparative advantages of building your house with straw, sticks, or bricks.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at September 04, 2023 06:07 PM (FVME7)

192 Did these people not see 'The Core?

Posted by: Ben Had at September 04, 2023 06:11 PM (ixFta)

193 There's a reason we build buildings on bedrock, if we can. And the sand we're not supposed to build on is really just itty-bitty pieces of broken rock....
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Because that's where all the hipsters go!
Bedrock! Bedrock!

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at September 04, 2023 06:11 PM (krqg6)

194 Fuck these people with a nunchuck spike up their ass

They want us freezing or sweating to death, eating bugs and living in the metaverse while they continue to fly around in jets and live in beachfront mansions

To save the planet

Fuck

Them

All

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger at September 04, 2023 06:25 PM (VTu1l)

195 Geothermal was tried here in Australia by a Professor Tim Flannery. He is a dickhead who won Australian Of The Year for his climate, er, advocacy.
He got $90 million for his project from the government, or the taxpayer. Couple of months later, project shut down with nothing to show but a large middle finger to ordinary working Australians.
Not on a par with the Rat Eared Wonder and Solyndra, but it's becoming increasingly common.

Posted by: Black Ball at September 04, 2023 06:44 PM (v39De)

196 We tangled with this in Oz, more than once. It didn't work here but we are geologically very stable and off the top of my head the best achieved was heating water to 80 deg C in SW Queensland. Also what he is proposing again the outfit here who tried this were drilling in extreme conditions that even the highest quality well casing & Halliburton equipment couldn't resist the corrosive effects of. Seems chemistry of the well fluids changes under pressure and heat.

Unless Oregon have volcanics close to the surface like Iceland or NZ and I would be wary.

Disclaimer I had a mate lose a 5 figure sum in a mob that thought radioactive decay of granites at 3-5km depth would be enough to heat water. I did caution him.

Posted by: Rockdoctor at September 04, 2023 08:29 PM (JwX8R)

197 The steam at Blundell is dirty- the plant is offline a lot because the lines need to be cleaned very frequently. But that's traditional geothermal. The ideas expressed here might work, but I keep thinking about the old movie 'Crack in the world'.

Posted by: sharps45 at September 04, 2023 08:38 PM (8mDaR)

198 118 Where, geographically, is the the Earth's ass? Discuss.

Politically and socially, in this century, Iraq.

Last century, maybe Vietnam.

Posted by: Penultimatum at September 04, 2023 09:21 PM (1QSX/)

199 Hey AllahFatAss, I understand that you and your feeling dumb fucks are abandoning Meatroll Ron and jumping on the Nikki bandwagon, or pushing Noem to run.

You’re an ignorant putz. Bye for now. Fool.

Posted by: MAGA Dummy at September 04, 2023 09:26 PM (FkMTW)

200 No offense Ace et al, we were energy independent in 2020 experiencing deflation thereof... and then your beloved uniparty just had to kick the proprietor of you prosperity out of office.

Every single candidate that is not named Ramaswamy or Trump is going to 'control' your freedom via energy control.

DeSantis just has $14,000 per plate 'fundraisers' with solar and wind in attendance. Learn it. Love it.

Posted by: Danimal28 at September 04, 2023 09:30 PM (ryUqI)

201 quit reading at "could help displace fossil fuels that are dangerously warming the planet....:

Posted by: uglykidmoe at September 05, 2023 01:04 AM (NBps3)

202 Lisa Murkowski is in the Sen. because John Cornyn as head of the NSRC sent lawyers to AK to run her write in campaign.
Also why would she back geothermal if it doesnt benefit her state? because it benefits HER.

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