Vivek Ramaswamy: Anti-Semite, The Indian Face Of White Supremacy, Soros Stooge...Or Is He?

If taking flack means that he is over the target, then Vivek Ramaswamy is indeed pricking the GOPe and the Democrat/Corporate interests that are terrified of any change in the status quo.

Search "Ramaswamy" on Bing and the articles from the mainstream media are almost uniformly dismissive: linking him to Trump or Musk, suggesting he is too young, too combative, and of course the great unwritten subtext...he may be dark-skinned, but he isn't the correct kind of plantation-dwelling minority that the progressive movement favors.

Talk about projection!

Ramaswamy recently made some remarks about Israel and its place at the top of our foreign aid list (more about that below). He suggested that his administration will complete the realignment in the Middle East that was started by President Trump, and that within a few years Israel would no longer require aid from us. He was pilloried for that comment by both the left and some on the right, but while I think it is a bit of a pipe dream, it is by no means an attack on Israel. The real attacks on Israel come from the bien pensants in Europe, our very own rabid anti-Semites in congress, and the various hard-left NGOs dedicated to its destruction.

He is also being tarred with the George Soros brush, which is a serious charge...if it were true. It isn't. He accepted a scholarship from a scholarship fund created by Paul and Daisy Soros. He was George's older brother, but not the progressive type at all! In fact the program requires a "commitment to the United States' fundamental principles and ideals." That doesn't sound like a George Soros sleeper...does it? Ramaswamy tried to get the Wikipedia entry corrected or deleted, which was unwise, but understandable. That seems to be the big black mark from the GOPe hacks who want nothing to do with a candidate who doesn't particularly favor their brand of politics.

But his policy goals are laudable, and if he were to win and had the capacity to begin the long process of dismantling the deep state, America would be far better off than it is now.

Is he going to get the nomination? No. And if he did he wouldn't win against the combined efforts of the entrenched Democrats and their vote manipulation, and the corporate Republican interests who want nothing more than to manage the decline while making their share of the graft.

As for Israel's foreign aid package? $3.3 billion this year, most of which goes to purchasing American weapons systems. It is dwarfed by the catastrophic spending on the Ukraine quagmire, but that is carefully excluded from the calculations, probably because the Biden Crime Family doesn't get much of a cut from the Israeli aid, and boy are they pissed.

The primary season is upon us all too early, and I would prefer to hear some substantive debate about the various serious candidates. And there are a few! Trump, DeSantis, Ramaswamy, and even Burgum and Suarez (until we learn more about them). Instead we get Donald Trump's arraignment circus dominating the news cycle, and a bunch of grifting clowns and beached whales sniping at Trump and the other serious candidates.

And that would be okay in normal times, but we are very obviously not in normal times. We need a united Republican/Conservative movement that winnows out the weaker candidates without devolving into a self-destructive circle-jerk. But that is also dependent on the candidates themselves, and the Donald Trump, the front-runner, is the worst offender, preferring to attack his "disloyal" opponents rather than focus his energies on the multiplicity of issues with which the Democrats can be attacked, and building a system to combat the steal which is absolutely going to be as significant as it was in 2020.

I also want a pony and a mint condition 1965 Mustang convertible with a bored-out 289.

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1 I am not sure

Posted by: Skip at August 27, 2023 12:03 PM (MOY79)

2 I guess I should pay more attention not that I think he has a shot but isn't going away either. And many say he often says the right things.

Posted by: Skip at August 27, 2023 12:05 PM (MOY79)

3 Coulda been a contender. Instead of a bum.

Posted by: Oddbob at August 27, 2023 12:05 PM (nfrXX)

4 Don't vote. It only encourages them.

Posted by: George Carlin at August 27, 2023 12:06 PM (NBVIP)

5 Me, that is, not Vivek. Because I read the content and then saw

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Posted by: Oddbob at August 27, 2023 12:06 PM (nfrXX)

6 hiya

Posted by: JT at August 27, 2023 12:07 PM (T4tVD)

7 Vivek doesn't pass them smell test for me. I get a GOPe vibe from him.

Posted by: Archer at August 27, 2023 12:08 PM (rskKm)

8 The idea were just going to make this millennial President because he tells idiots what they want to hear is scary AF... Solid businessmen dont start Biotech companies in the Bahamas. Nor do they buy known failed drugs and rename them and remarket them to get investments. Then the family bails just before the trial fails again making MILLIONS from suckers. NO, the Deepstate has the goods on this corrupt liar and is simply helping him gain the nomination so they can blackmail him.

Posted by: Fisht at August 27, 2023 12:08 PM (ZRarh)

9 Hidea Salami

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko stuff at August 27, 2023 12:08 PM (VzKz0)

10 And many say he often says the right things.
Posted by: Skip

Like this ?

Nice rant CBD !

Posted by: JT at August 27, 2023 12:08 PM (T4tVD)

11 Joy! My IP unbanned!

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko stuff at August 27, 2023 12:09 PM (VzKz0)

12 Smells like curry

Posted by: Archer at August 27, 2023 12:10 PM (rskKm)

13 All projection, all the time.

Posted by: More projection than an AMC 24 at August 27, 2023 12:11 PM (fhX0j)

14 The primary season is upon us all too early

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Bruh. We're prepared to lose with dignity.

It's time to look ahead to 2028.

That's why we're announcing our convention will be held in Houston!

Posted by: Gope Leadership at August 27, 2023 12:11 PM (tJiQR)

15 th!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 27, 2023 12:11 PM (kF4Fp)

16 After following the results of the first GOP Vice-Presidential Debate ('cause none of them have a chance against Trump, even behind bars) Vivek came out sounding the best of all of them. He is bright, energetic, filled with positive energy, and he's done his homework. And he calls the Lamestream Media out on their fake news. He is the true disciple of Trump, and the one most likely so far to end up on the ticket.

Posted by: exdem13 at August 27, 2023 12:11 PM (W+kMI)

17 I have become death, the destroyer of worlds.

Posted by: Vivek at August 27, 2023 12:12 PM (rskKm)

18 I believe NOTHING the MSM says, shows, or does. I'll keep an open mind, but his chances of getting the nomination, much less winning the contest is infinitesimal.

Posted by: jim (in Kalfornia) at August 27, 2023 12:12 PM (ynpvh)

19 Are the MAGA people gushing over Vivek aware of what he wrote in his book about the 2020 election? He likened Trump's claims of election fraud to those of Stacy Abrams.

Posted by: Reggie1971 at August 27, 2023 12:12 PM (996BY)

20 16 After following the results of the first GOP Vice-Presidential Debate ('cause none of them have a chance against Trump, even behind bars) Vivek came out sounding the best of all of them. He is bright, energetic, filled with positive energy, and he's done his homework. And he calls the Lamestream Media out on their fake news. He is the true disciple of Trump, and the one most likely so far to end up on the ticket.

Posted by: exdem13 at August 27, 2023 12:11 PM (W+kMI)

As a VP candidate?

Posted by: jim (in Kalfornia) at August 27, 2023 12:13 PM (ynpvh)

21 Are any of the other candidates worth a damn?

Do they really think we're fooled by them and their posturing now, after what they did, or didn't do when the Ds and DS attacked President Trump?

I've said it before, all those bastards had forty years to actually do something for most of America. they had all levers of power to do it. They did nothing.

I expect them to do nothing again, if they somehow win.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at August 27, 2023 12:13 PM (Angsy)

22 He is not MAGA

Posted by: Archer at August 27, 2023 12:13 PM (rskKm)

23 There's a Seinfeld slash Babu Bhatt reference in here somewhere...

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at August 27, 2023 12:14 PM (NBVIP)

24 19 Are the MAGA people gushing over Vivek aware of what he wrote in his book about the 2020 election? He likened Trump's claims of election fraud to those of Stacy Abrams.

Posted by: Reggie1971 at August 27, 2023 12:12 PM (996BY)

What's the name of the book?
And don't say, "Shit Vivek Said About the 2020 Election", please.

Posted by: jim (in Kalfornia) at August 27, 2023 12:14 PM (ynpvh)

25 I should point out that political cartoon above is beyond-obvious all Leftist projection and a smear on Trump's MAGA faithful. There has been no racist catcalling or race-baiting, other than the floating fat man from New Jersey.

Posted by: exdem13 at August 27, 2023 12:14 PM (W+kMI)

26 Thank you CBD. I like Vivek; he’s my second choice behind DJT. I enjoy how he makes all the right people uncomfortable. When I first heard his comments on Israel aid, I was turned off… it was the first time I’d heard him put his foot in his mouth. Hopefully it wasn’t as bad as it sounded; I’m generally against foreign aid, but Israel is a notable exception.

Speaking of GOPe, Kimberley Strassel had a WSJ OpEd the other day where she said that Pence and Nikki Haley were the “adults in the room” at the debate… and Vivek wasn’t. All the right people seem to dislike him so I’m inclined to feel positively about him….. Strassel: I used to think she was conservative, but she’s all in on the Ukraine war….

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at August 27, 2023 12:14 PM (Q/v9F)

27 Swami is a cipher. Trump was known for decades, warts and all.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at August 27, 2023 12:14 PM (8XuxQ)

28 and the one most likely so far to end up on the ticket.
Posted by: exdem13

That would be a disaster!

He's a Gope plant that will leak everything.

Posted by: Pence at August 27, 2023 12:14 PM (tJiQR)

29 Don't vote and let the Marxists take over
Ok then.

Make them steal it and there is a chance sooner or later enough people will revolt

Posted by: Skip at August 27, 2023 12:14 PM (MOY79)

30 I have been down on Ramswami since he appears very weak on the tranny/globohomo front; on the other hand, he was the only one to publicly point out that the entire climate change push is a giant hoax, and that earns him a lot of credit with me.

but he still seems like this years Bobby Jindal.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 27, 2023 12:15 PM (q3gwH)

31 25 I should point out that political cartoon above is beyond-obvious all Leftist projection and a smear on Trump's MAGA faithful. There has been no racist catcalling or race-baiting, other than the floating fat man from New Jersey.

Posted by: exdem13 at August 27, 2023 12:14 PM (W+kMI)

Heh, love the Dune reference.

Posted by: jim (in Kalfornia) at August 27, 2023 12:15 PM (ynpvh)

32 Tweet from Ramaswamy:

We’re surging. The knives are out. “WEF.” “Soros.” “Masks.” Here’s the TRUTH. Stay skeptical. Keep the questions coming & I’ll keep answering.

Link goes to article at Western Journal with tweet embedded.

https://is.gd/sGfBYF

Posted by: olddog in mo at August 27, 2023 12:15 PM (jmJMR)

33
He was pilloried for that comment by both the left and some on the right

Including JJ Sefton.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 27, 2023 12:16 PM (63Dwl)

34 Make them steal it and there is a chance sooner or later enough people will revolt
Posted by: Skip at August 27, 2023 12:14 PM (MOY79)

we're too old and dependent as a people to revolt no matter what, a sad conclusion I've come to. We may collapse, in fact we absolutely will at some point, but there will never be any widespread revolt. The instant people are told their SS checks and medicare benefits are at risk, they'll do anything they're told.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 27, 2023 12:17 PM (q3gwH)

35 There's a Seinfeld slash Babu Bhatt reference in here somewhere...
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at August 27, 2023 12:14 PM (NBVIP)

Maybe Vivek will open a Pakistani restaurant and it’ll be a hit! He’s a bad, bad man. A berry berry bad man!!

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at August 27, 2023 12:17 PM (Q/v9F)

36 other than the floating fat man from New Jersey.

Christie (D - Unkin)?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at August 27, 2023 12:17 PM (Angsy)

37 Is he going to get the nomination? No. And if he did he wouldn't win against the combined efforts of the entrenched Democrats and their vote manipulation, and the corporate Republican interests who want nothing more than to manage the decline while making their share of the graft.

I know it's unfashionable to say this, but there is real value in having an eloquent spokesman for conservatism, even if he has no real chance of winning....this cycle. It reminds people that smart people are on their side, that ours are the winning policies, and that change can happen, albeit more slowly than any of us would like.

The GOPe mooks look worse and worse (I'm looking at you, Race), and by comparison, the RDS/Vivek/and yes, Trump wing looks strong and getting stronger.

We don't have much time to repair and refloat the ship of state, but I think that's precisely what causes the average voter to reexamine their assumptions and get involved.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 27, 2023 12:18 PM (I/Qkd)

38 In my day, Vivek would own and manage multiple 7-11s in the Central New Jersey area. Maybe some Holiday Inns. Though his surname is not Patel.

Posted by: Currying Favor at August 27, 2023 12:18 PM (83IzV)

39 20 16 After following the results of the first GOP Vice-Presidential Debate ('cause none of them have a chance against Trump, even behind bars) Vivek came out sounding the best of all of them. He is bright, energetic, filled with positive energy, and he's done his homework. And he calls the Lamestream Media out on their fake news. He is the true disciple of Trump, and the one most likely so far to end up on the ticket.

Posted by: exdem13 at August 27, 2023 12:11 PM (W+kMI)

As a VP candidate?
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Yes. Trump is the Presidential nominee until he decides he won't be it, or the Dems get an assassin past his security team. This crop of ankle-biters is realistically running for VP, except for Christie, and Vivek so far is out in front.

Posted by: exdem13 at August 27, 2023 12:18 PM (W+kMI)

40 Vivek doesn't pass them smell test for me. I get a GOPe vibe from him.
Posted by: Archer at August 27, 2023 12:08 PM (rskKm

For sure. He's running as GOP. He's obviously not a stupid man, given his various achievements. He certainly knows what that Party is, and what its mission is, and that it would never permit him to make good on a single stated policy goal except for possibly a tax cut for the donor class, should be propose that.

Same goes for DeSantis, and the rest of the GOP field. It's all just a grift. No candidate can change this system from inside of it. Any of them who claims he can isn't mistaken, but a liar.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 27, 2023 12:18 PM (GbLr7)

41 Vivek doesn't pass them smell test for me. I get a GOPe vibe from him.

Posted by: Archer

Other than Trump, who doesn't give you that vibe?

Posted by: Archimedes at August 27, 2023 12:19 PM (I/Qkd)

42 My, my, we have nics that have been never seen showing up quickly.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 27, 2023 12:20 PM (K+1Pw)

43 While I loathe anti-semites as much as the next decent human being, it seems to me to be the invective of the Neo-Con.

So I tune it out.

Posted by: Regular joe at August 27, 2023 12:20 PM (nnp+f)

44 There's a Seinfeld slash Babu Bhatt reference in here somewhere...
Posted by: Quarter Twenty

Is he handing out steaming hot towels ?

Posted by: JT at August 27, 2023 12:20 PM (T4tVD)

45 Not gonna trash him...plenty of time for that.

Posted by: BignJames at August 27, 2023 12:20 PM (AwYPR)

46 I know it's unfashionable to say this, but there is real value in having an eloquent spokesman for conservatism, even if he has no real chance of winning....this cycle."

This cycle is the last cycle - the fin de siecle, as it were. I no longer believe there will be any 2028 elections.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 27, 2023 12:20 PM (q3gwH)

47 40 Vivek doesn't pass them smell test for me. I get a GOPe vibe from him.
Posted by: Archer at August 27, 2023 12:08 PM (rskKm

I crap bigger than him.

Posted by: Apu Nahasapeemapetilon at August 27, 2023 12:20 PM (PiwSw)

48 If there's any doubt about the intentions of the GOP look no farther than how the party treats populist candidates. They denigrate Vivek Ramaswamy because he won't toe the GOPe line.

I sincerely hope the Republican nominate a GOPe, retail candidate like Pence. Someone wholly unlikeable and unelectable even under fair "election" conditions. Assuming Trump runs, even as a write-in or whatever, he'll likely finish 2nd to whomever the left installs in the White House with their 100M ballot fraud.

Finishing an distant 3nd would be sweet karma for the GOP who still think they're relevant king makers. And perhaps hasten that skinsuit of an opposition party's death.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 27, 2023 12:21 PM (Q4IgG)

49 He’s running an infomercial. Not sure for who. But I’m not buying a ShamWow from him and neither should you.

Posted by: VizzinisGuess at August 27, 2023 12:21 PM (h8s0C)

50 So the consensus of those here who don't like Vivek seems to be that his elbows are too sharp.

Either that or he's a threat to [insert name of your preferred candidate here].

Since he's not going to be nominated, how's about we just talk about what he's talking about, and see if we can't clarify who is for what, and who isn't. That would be nice.

I can't think of anything he's said that I that is a deal breaker, and he was the ONLY person on that stage for whom I can say that... except maybe the guy I never heard of before, but since I've never heard of him, and didn't listen to him, and have no clue what he's said, I'm not sure what he was doing on that stage.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 27, 2023 12:21 PM (Zvh4K)

51 36 other than the floating fat man from New Jersey.

Christie (D - Unkin)?
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Yes. Christie's true role is to be a ringer, a hired spoiler for the Uniparty to make as much of a mess as possible. You know, sort of like Kasich (spits) was back in 2016.

Posted by: exdem13 at August 27, 2023 12:21 PM (W+kMI)

52 >> but there will never be any widespread revolt. The instant people are told their SS checks and medicare benefits are at risk, they'll do anything they're told.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 27, 2023 12:17 PM (q3gwH)

Yes… Covid response proved this emphatically. If locking people in their houses and closing their churches and forcing them to get jabbed didn’t cause a revolt then nothing will….. Heck, I have a revolutionary spirit but while the spirit may be willing, the flesh is way too weak. I’m too old at this point to be an effective revolutionary

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at August 27, 2023 12:21 PM (Q/v9F)

53 Don’t know much about Vivek, but hoping this doesn’t devolve into a self destructive circle jerk is a pretty big ask.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at August 27, 2023 12:21 PM (zeRnp)

54 Trying to imagine CBD on a pony. Not there yet.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right at August 27, 2023 12:22 PM (D8YZ0)

55 This cycle is the last cycle - the fin de siecle, as it were. I no longer believe there will be any 2028 elections.

I see your fin de siecle and raise you an ancien regime.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 27, 2023 12:22 PM (I/Qkd)

56 So a cage match between Apu and Rhonda Santis?

Hunh. Who's playing on Sunday Night Football?

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at August 27, 2023 12:22 PM (NBVIP)

57 We need a united Republican/Conservative movement that winnows out the weaker candidates without devolving into a self-destructive circle-jerk.

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ISTM that if a united movement is needed, exactly why would other conservatives throw their hat in the ring considering Trump is easily the odds on favorite to win the nomination?

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at August 27, 2023 12:24 PM (8XuxQ)

58 Heck, I have a revolutionary spirit but while the spirit may be willing, the flesh is way too weak. I’m too old at this point to be an effective revolutionary
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at August 27, 2023 12:21 PM (Q/v9F)

successful revolutions always require a large pool of angry and violently inclined 18 - 30 year old enthusiasts. Without that, they just don't happen.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 27, 2023 12:24 PM (q3gwH)

59 The Republican love of Israel never fails to amaze me. That country apparently must be supported and subsidized no matter what. You don't need to be pro-Palestinian (most of those people are cringe) to see that a country with a first world economy doesn't need our taxpayer money to deal with Hamas rockets and tunnels. But saying this makes a lot of people on the right who normally have sound judgment trot out the "anti-Semitism" card. I don't see how this is any different from a left-winger claiming that a person who wants laws enforced is "racist", but there you go.

Israel will be fine with or without our support. Netanyahu has been playing the "Iran is right about to get a bomb" card for 20 years now and lots of people on the right fall for it every time. And I can't think of anything that Israel has done for us (especially since the end of the Cold War) other than help to get us embroiled in more unwinnable Middle Eastern quagmires.

Posted by: the lower depths at August 27, 2023 12:24 PM (+b4rY)

60 Vivek doesn't pass them smell test for me. I get a GOPe vibe from him.

Posted by: Archer

Other than Trump, who doesn't give you that vibe?

Archer-
I'd really like to know.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 27, 2023 12:24 PM (I/Qkd)

61 I no longer believe there will be any 2028 elections.
Posted by: Tom Servo

What about 26?

I have doubts.

Posted by: Not trying to be mean but... at August 27, 2023 12:25 PM (tJiQR)

62 My, my, we have nics that have been never seen showing up quickly.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 27, 2023 12:20 PM (K+1Pw)

Yep. This will be an exercise worth having some consistency around, for the next 15 months: If you don't recognize the nic, assume they're bought and paid for. If a genuine newcomer comes along, they're going to have to VERY carefully and slowly ingratiate themselves to the group.

If your ARE a genuine newcomer, the stronger your opinion, the more people here will ignore you. Consider that before you type.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 27, 2023 12:25 PM (Zvh4K)

63 Let’s go inside and meet some of the guys! Vivek, Nikki, meet Muhammad, Jugdish, Clayton and Sydney. Don’t think you have to meet everybody and help yourself to some punch and cookies!

Posted by: Doug Neidermeyer, GOP Rush Chairman at August 27, 2023 12:26 PM (R/m4+)

64 ...and building a system to combat the steal which is absolutely going to be as significant as it was in 2020.

The steal is going to be epic.
They won't even try to hide it and the media will ignore it.
As soon as the cover the windows and/or stop counting, the response should be thousands surrounding the polling stations and demanding transparency.
Let the games begin.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 27, 2023 12:26 PM (hv9bm)

65 52 Damn, Linus, the older you get the better you should be at being a revolutionary. You can say stuff and people either think you're the wise old sage or you're just old and nuts and you don't get a fist in the face. If things get serious, you can always think that you have had a pretty good run, and things suck, so lets get on with it.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at August 27, 2023 12:26 PM (0EOe9)

66 If your ARE a genuine newcomer, the stronger your opinion, the more people here will ignore you. Consider that before you type.

I'd say that's true UNLESS you provide strong documentation to substantiate your claims. The bolder the claim, the stronger the required evidence.

We can already handle baseless assertions.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 27, 2023 12:27 PM (I/Qkd)

67 This cycle is the last cycle - the fin de siecle, as it were. I no longer believe there will be any 2028 elections.

I see your fin de siecle and raise you an ancien regime.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 27, 2023 12:22 PM (I/Qkd)

I’d be genuinely shocked if elections no longer took place. I’m quite certain they’ll continue… oh there will be cheating and the results won’t be authentic. But the sham will continue for appearances sake… superficially it’ll look the same. But now that TPTB know how to fortify why would they cancel. They can get the same result with an outward appearance of legitimacy

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at August 27, 2023 12:27 PM (Q/v9F)

68 The editor at the paper liked that cartoon. It fulfilled their stereotype of the rubes living nearby, and not like those enlightened ones from back in j-school.

Posted by: Roy at August 27, 2023 12:27 PM (rqgpJ)

69
If locking people in their houses and closing their churches and forcing them to get jabbed didn’t cause a revolt then nothing will

And they appear to be starting that up again.
Fool me twice.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 27, 2023 12:27 PM (63Dwl)

70 59...
Netanyahu has been playing the "Iran is right about to get a bomb" card for 20 years now and lots of people on the right fall for it every time. And I can't think of anything that Israel has done for us (especially since the end of the Cold War) other than help to get us embroiled in more unwinnable Middle Eastern quagmires.

Posted by: the lower depths at August 27, 2023 12:24 PM (+b4rY)

Um, that's because Israel has taken the initiative to destroy nuclear reactors, scuttle uranium enrichment centrifuges, and kill top leaders/scientists of enemy regimes (Iraq, Iran).
You keep doing that, and it slows down things appreciably.

Posted by: jim (in Kalfornia) at August 27, 2023 12:27 PM (ynpvh)

71 We need a united Republican/Conservative movement that winnows out the weaker candidates without devolving into a self-destructive circle-jerk.

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how's that going ?

Posted by: runner at August 27, 2023 12:28 PM (V13WU)

72 61 I no longer believe there will be any 2028 elections.
Posted by: Tom Servo

What about 26?

I have doubts.
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If John Glubb was correct, empires last 250 years before falling. Since the founders always saw themselves as a kind of 'empire' from the start (our first legislature was the Continental Congress after all), that would put our approximate end date as 2026.

Mind you, I think what replaces this current crap will be much better, whether it is national divorce or Franco/Pinochet disappearing people, but I tend to be as long-term an optimist as I am a short-term pessimist.

Posted by: the lower depths at August 27, 2023 12:28 PM (+b4rY)

73 I can't think of anything he's said that I that is a deal breaker

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"I am running as a Republican" is the deal breaker.

Think of an ice cream salesman who says all the right things. "32 flavors is a cuck number of flavors... I'm selling 64 flavors, with the most topping choices of any ice cream shop, at half the price of my competitors, and it all contains a shitload of rat poison!"

Everything sounds great til that last part.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 27, 2023 12:29 PM (0FoWg)

74
I’d be genuinely shocked if elections no longer took place. I’m quite certain they’ll continue…

I was kidding because I wanted to use ancien regime. There will be elections in '28, regardless of what we think of the level of fraud.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 27, 2023 12:29 PM (I/Qkd)

75 yeah, I am going to hold a ...masterclass on identifying trolls. there a nominal fee. but y'all will learn a lot !

Posted by: runner at August 27, 2023 12:29 PM (V13WU)

76 Posted by: LinusVanPelt at August 27, 2023 12:27 PM (Q/v9F)

Yeah, even Saddam had elections. So what that the result was 100% (or nearly so ) for him every time.

Posted by: jim (in Kalfornia) at August 27, 2023 12:29 PM (ynpvh)

77 Israel will be fine with or without our support. Netanyahu has been playing the "Iran is right about to get a bomb" card for 20 years now and lots of people on the right fall for it every time. And I can't think of anything that Israel has done for us (especially since the end of the Cold War) other than help to get us embroiled in more unwinnable Middle Eastern quagmires.
Posted by: the lower depths at August 27, 2023 12:24 PM (+b4rY)

Yeah, so much of our Israeli policy is leftover Cold War stuff, where the Soviets were financing whomever in the region, and we believed we had to make sure Israel was secure, as our main line of defense there.

But that's a long long time ago, and the "but Iran might get the bomb" scare is just total bullshit.

Treat Israel like an ally, and not a servant.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 27, 2023 12:29 PM (Zvh4K)

78 63 Let’s go inside and meet some of the guys! Vivek, Nikki, meet Muhammad, Jugdish, Clayton and Sydney. Don’t think you have to meet everybody and help yourself to some punch and cookies!
Posted by: Doug Neidermeyer, GOP Rush Chairman at August 27, 2023 12:26 PM (R/m4+)

Assuming the position here is the area located below 2% of primary polling

Posted by: Roy at August 27, 2023 12:30 PM (rqgpJ)

79 I also want a pony and a mint condition 1965 Mustang convertible with a bored-out 289.
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Pfff. I want Karen Gillan wrapped in fruit tape.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at August 27, 2023 12:30 PM (ScR16)

80 And I can't think of anything that Israel has done for us (especially since the end of the Cold War) other than help to get us embroiled in more unwinnable Middle Eastern quagmires.
Posted by: the lower depths at August 27, 2023 12:24 PM (+b4rY)

That's a foolish lie to say that Israel got us involved in anything we've done in the middle east over the last 30 years. Gulf War 1 was done to back up the Saudi's and their Kuwaiti/Gulf State allies; Gulf War 2 was GWB's "lets do what daddy did" revenge tour; Afghanistan was about setting up a 20 year grift pipeline so that everyone in DC could rape the treasury (now transferred to Ukraine) I don't think anyone can rationally explain what Syria was about.

but Israel had nothing to do with any of that.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 27, 2023 12:30 PM (q3gwH)

81 Pence and Hutchinson are GOPe.
Vivek and DeSantis are not.
I would be willing to take a chance on them.

I will also vote for Trump if he is the nominee, but do not think he can win against Biden.
There is just too much hate for him among the independents, Gen Z and women.

Posted by: redridinghood at August 27, 2023 12:31 PM (NpAcC)

82 Vivek doesn't pass them smell test for me. I get a GOPe vibe from him.

Posted by: Archer

Other than Trump, who doesn't give you that vibe?

Archer-
I'd really like to know.

Yeah, that's what I figured.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 27, 2023 12:31 PM (I/Qkd)

83 And they appear to be starting that up again.
Fool me twice.
Posted by: Bertram

Yep. Not going to participate in that crap.

Posted by: Infidel at August 27, 2023 12:31 PM (n2500)

84 I don't care about this debate* but for a defence of Vivek, see Scott Adams' Xtwitter account, here as a readable-to-all Nitter link:

https://nitter.net/ScottAdamsSays

It probably ties into Adams' "persuasiveness" theorizing 'stuff' so take that as you will. See yous later, all!

* No offence meant but it's a long time until the actual Primaries.

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at August 27, 2023 12:31 PM (krqg6)

85 Posted by: BurtTC

I think there are already a few subversives who have embedded themselves so they *seem* to be morons.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 27, 2023 12:31 PM (K+1Pw)

86 79 I also want a pony and a mint condition 1965 Mustang convertible with a bored-out 289.
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Pfff. I want Karen Gillan wrapped in fruit tape.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at August 27, 2023 12:30 PM (ScR16)

You'll both get nothing and like it!

Posted by: Judge Smails at August 27, 2023 12:31 PM (rqgpJ)

87 52, 65 Bill - Good point! I’m just feeling my aches and pains this morning and realizing that actually going into the field for combat operations would cause the body to break. Now…. If the revolution needs an armchair George W… LoL

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at August 27, 2023 12:32 PM (Q/v9F)

88 As long as there is a constitution, they will have elections. They will be phony as hell, but they will be needed to give legitimacy to whatever crap government is in power.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 27, 2023 12:32 PM (hv9bm)

89 I was kidding because I wanted to use ancien regime. There will be elections in '28, regardless of what we think of the level of fraud.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 27, 2023 12:29 PM (I/Qkd)

Fair Point, Venezuela and California both still pretend to have elections.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 27, 2023 12:32 PM (q3gwH)

90 With each indictment Trump’s support goes up. They’re now moving on to having him removed from ballots on 14th amendment grounds. Nothing says democracy like removing the people’s choice.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 27, 2023 12:33 PM (u73oe)

91 The USSR always had elections and so will we.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 27, 2023 12:33 PM (0FoWg)

92 79 I also want a pony and a mint condition 1965 Mustang convertible with a bored-out 289.
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Pfff. I want Karen Gillan wrapped in fruit tape.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at August 27, 2023 12:30 PM (ScR16)

Hmmm.
Reminds me of that scene from "Blended" where one of the kids says, "These pan ties are really good"...
Turns out they were edible panties.

Posted by: jim (in Kalfornia) at August 27, 2023 12:34 PM (ynpvh)

93 I, too, wanted a pony and a Mustang with a bored out 289, what I got was a crippled burro and a '80 Chevy Citation with leaky valve seals.

Posted by: Smoky Stover at August 27, 2023 12:34 PM (83IzV)

94 58 Heck, I have a revolutionary spirit but while the spirit may be willing, the flesh is way too weak. I’m too old at this point to be an effective revolutionary
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at August 27, 2023 12:21 PM (Q/v9F)

successful revolutions always require a large pool of angry and violently inclined 18 - 30 year old enthusiasts. Without that, they just don't happen.
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Benjamin Franklin was in the Medicare bracket when he came off the bench for independence. It's the job of the older revolutionaries to inspire and direct the younger ones. The young men are always willing, but hey need leadership and direction from their elders, to whom they look to first.

Posted by: exdem13 at August 27, 2023 12:35 PM (W+kMI)

95 88 As long as there is a constitution, they will have elections. They will be phony as hell, but they will be needed to give legitimacy to whatever crap government is in power.
Posted by: Diogenes at August 27, 2023 12:32 PM (hv9bm)

———

They’ll just do what they did in 2020 in select states. Who is going to stop them?

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at August 27, 2023 12:35 PM (8XuxQ)

96 Said often right out of the gate my Spidey Sense was tingling about him, I could be wrong I don't know.

Posted by: Skip at August 27, 2023 12:35 PM (MOY79)

97 87 When the SHTF, join me on the roof (if we can make it up the ladder). Don't forget your bifocals and meds. I'll bring snacks.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at August 27, 2023 12:35 PM (0EOe9)

98 BTW…. Just for NSA Bob: I am not planning a revolution. I was just kidding around; speaking tongue-in-cheek. I am not an insurrectionist!

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at August 27, 2023 12:35 PM (Q/v9F)

99 Lotta new and racisty commenters lately. Must be gearing up for the election cycle.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at August 27, 2023 12:36 PM (Ak1+U)

100 When the SHTF, join me on the roof (if we can make it up the ladder). Don't forget your bifocals and meds. I'll bring snacks.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at August 27, 2023 12:35 PM (0EOe9)

——————

What kind of snacks?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 27, 2023 12:37 PM (u73oe)

101 The young men are always willing, but hey need leadership and direction from their elders, to whom they look to first.
Posted by: exdem13 at August 27, 2023 12:35 PM (W+kMI)

I think about that, and then I think about the field in the recent GOP debate, and I weep.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 27, 2023 12:37 PM (q3gwH)

102 one of the most useless , incompetent persons when it comes to R party, is the Chairperson of that party - Ronna McDaniel. What does chairperson or a party do ? Well ! I am glad you axed! They are responsible, get this, for election strategy. Also platform. How'd she do last couple of cycles ? Now, if anyone is concerned about a winning 2024 strategy, please contact her with your concerns. But no worries, she was enthusiastically endorsed by Trump for reelection. Of course she was, legal bill had to be paid out of the R party treasury.

Posted by: runner at August 27, 2023 12:37 PM (V13WU)

103 97 - Fist bump!

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at August 27, 2023 12:37 PM (Q/v9F)

104 Pence and Hutchinson are GOPe.
Vivek and DeSantis are not.
I would be willing to take a chance on them.

Posted by: redridinghood at August 27, 2023 12:31 PM (NpAcC)

Regarding DeSantis, I think the consensus I've seen elsewhere, even from those who support him, is that they wanted him to say something the other night that would set him apart from the crowd, and while he didn't say anything that was harmful to his campaign, he sure as hell didn't help it.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 27, 2023 12:37 PM (u1frD)

105 Had a 68 Mustang with a 289, 3 speed. Perfect combination. Boring it out created the 302.

Posted by: teh Wind at August 27, 2023 12:38 PM (l+V04)

106 I think there are already a few subversives who have embedded themselves so they *seem* to be morons.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 27, 2023 12:31 PM (K+1Pw)

Agree, 100 percent.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 27, 2023 12:38 PM (u1frD)

107 He's a complete opportunist and this passage from his book in 2022:

"It was a dark day for democracy. The loser of the last election refused to concede the race, claimed the election was stolen, raised hundreds of millions of dollars from loyal supporters, and is considering running for executive office again.

I’m referring, of course, to Donald Trump."

It would be one thing if has some criticism of Trump in like 2016, but this book came out a year ago.

He's just angling to get a job at like Fox News.

Posted by: Blago at August 27, 2023 12:38 PM (cOFom)

108 100 Why, a variety, including soft stuff for those who forget the dentures.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at August 27, 2023 12:38 PM (0EOe9)

109 93 I, too, wanted a pony and a Mustang with a bored out 289, what I got was a crippled burro and a '80 Chevy Citation with leaky valve seals.
Posted by: Smoky Stover at August 27, 2023 12:34 PM (83IzV)

I had a Citation. 200 miles past the warranty, the door fell off. Bad welds on the hinges. Chevy wouldn't cover it. Never bought another chevy.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 27, 2023 12:38 PM (hv9bm)

110 North Korea has "elections."

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 27, 2023 12:38 PM (63Dwl)

111 99 Lotta new and racisty commenters lately. Must be gearing up for the election cycle.
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"Everything I don't like is racist."

Posted by: the lower depths at August 27, 2023 12:38 PM (+b4rY)

112 Seinfeld hates people who have ponies. Just saying….

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at August 27, 2023 12:40 PM (Q/v9F)

113 107 He's a complete opportunist and this passage from his book in 2022:

"It was a dark day for democracy. The loser of the last election refused to concede the race, claimed the election was stolen, raised hundreds of millions of dollars from loyal supporters, and is considering running for executive office again.

I’m referring, of course, to Donald Trump."

It would be one thing if has some criticism of Trump in like 2016, but this book came out a year ago.

He's just angling to get a job at like Fox News.

Posted by: Blago at August 27, 2023 12:38 PM (cOFom)

What's the name of the book?

Posted by: jim (in Kalfornia) at August 27, 2023 12:40 PM (ynpvh)

114 Well, you could buy a pony and a Mustang.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at August 27, 2023 12:40 PM (Mzdiz)

115 Vivek checks the two boxes I have.

One, he's not a lawyer. That's a big one.

Two, he's not a politician. A DC outsider.

That and being rich is what Trump brought to the table and managed to NOT SELL OUT. Unlike all the saviors of the month club that roll over as soon as they get the keys to the executive washroom.

Trump also wasn't a pick for those choosy types that prefer the nonexistent, perfect candidate that says stuff that everyone agrees with.

There's a war going on and Vivek looks like the only other fighter besides Trump.

Posted by: pawn at August 27, 2023 12:41 PM (wsHtO)

116 114 Well, you could buy a pony and a Mustang.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at August 27, 2023 12:40 PM (Mzdiz)

Mustang = Pony car = Car for Ponies?

Posted by: jim (in Kalfornia) at August 27, 2023 12:41 PM (ynpvh)

117 1) "It was a dark day for democracy.

2) The loser of the last election refused to concede the race

3) claimed the election was stolen

4) raised hundreds of millions of dollars from loyal supporters

5) and is considering running for executive office again.

Which of statements 1-5 is false?

Posted by: Archimedes at August 27, 2023 12:41 PM (I/Qkd)

118 71 We need a united Republican/Conservative movement that winnows out the weaker candidates without devolving into a self-destructive circle-jerk.

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how's that going ?
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Back in 2016 Trump stepped into the circle of jerks, and knocked them down like a ring of dominoes. By the time the primaries across the Mississippi were underway, he was the nominee in all but name. I think the same thing can happen in 2024. DeSantis isn't ready yet, Elder is sincere but will be deliberately starved of attention, Nikki wants a cabinet post again, and the others are GOPe stooges who will be lucky to get anything higher than 5% outside of their home state. Maybe.

Posted by: exdem13 at August 27, 2023 12:42 PM (W+kMI)

119 By voting for Democrats or not voting we are allowing Democrats to control the Senate and make DC and PR a state.
They will definitely be able to take away our rights if we just sit back by not trying or participating.

You will also be forced to accept and surrender to the trans agenda. Our children will be the ones that will suffer the most.
Parents will eventually lose all control over their kids.
This alone should be a huge motivator to vote.

Posted by: redridinghood at August 27, 2023 12:42 PM (NpAcC)

120 I’m relatively new around here (commenting maybe 2 or 3 years at most) so I wouldn’t blame folks if they don’t entirely trust me… I do plan on being at the TX MoMe in October so after that some will have seen the real flesh and blood Linus…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at August 27, 2023 12:42 PM (Q/v9F)

121 I'm making $90 an hour working from home. I never imagined that it was honest to goodness yet my closest companion is earning 16,000 US dollars a month by working on the connection, that was truly astounding for me, she prescribed for me to attempt it simply. Everybody must try this job now by just using this website... www.Payathome7.com

Posted by: www.Payathome7.com at August 27, 2023 12:42 PM (4HAQC)

122 I feel like someone living North of the Mason Dixon in 1853. I can see the coming storm; but. I cannot see anything I can do about it. Just like the 1850s, every concession or compromise makes the democrats that much more radical and aggressive.

We should all pray that evil does not prevail.

Posted by: Queequeg the Harpooner at August 27, 2023 12:43 PM (9X60i)

123 We hold elections for the Peoples Congress.

Posted by: Kim Jong Un at August 27, 2023 12:43 PM (tJiQR)

124 Lotsa Jeeps can be run with doors removed. Not seeing a problem.

Posted by: GM-Mark of Excellence at August 27, 2023 12:43 PM (83IzV)

125 I don't care about this debate* but for a defence of Vivek, see Scott Adams' Xtwitter account, here as a readable-to-all Nitter link:

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at August 27, 2023 12:31 PM (krqg6)

Last I heard from Scott Adams was his snarky "apology" for being wrong about the Covids.

I never had any interest in the guy, but those who did should know he's one of those.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 27, 2023 12:43 PM (wyoua)

126 Speaking of conservatives of the darker persuasion, I find Docrich to be amusing. Often his YT videos are quite short and he does have the bad habit of talking over what he is presenting which is kind of weird because he is definitely of the show not tell school but I like him. Here he does why they fear Trump. (Maybe 60 seconds)

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/51BWpnNmBVY

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 27, 2023 12:43 PM (FVME7)

127 What's the GOP's plan to combat the Democrat's fraud this next election? Do they have their own ballot harvesting program? Preprinted ballots? Thousands of people willing to get their hands a little bloody if things don't seem to be going their way?

*shrugs*

It's all really academic at this point.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 27, 2023 12:43 PM (Q4IgG)

128 I’m relatively new around here (commenting maybe 2 or 3 years at most) so I wouldn’t blame folks if they don’t entirely trust me… I do plan on being at the TX MoMe in October so after that some will have seen the real flesh and blood Linus…

You'd make rapid progressin establishing yourself if you provide the music.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 27, 2023 12:43 PM (I/Qkd)

129 117 1) "It was a dark day for democracy.

2) The loser of the last election refused to concede the race

3) claimed the election was stolen

4) raised hundreds of millions of dollars from loyal supporters

5) and is considering running for executive office again.

Which of statements 1-5 is false?

Posted by: Archimedes at August 27, 2023 12:41 PM (I/Qkd)

Context is everything. Does anybody know the name of the book? I mean folks are quoting from it...

Posted by: jim (in Kalfornia) at August 27, 2023 12:43 PM (ynpvh)

130 109 Damn, just remembered. A high school friend got a 65 Mustang from his Dad. Dad was making amends from being out of the picture for a while. Plain Jane Mustang, 3 speed on the floor and a six banger. Sadly, my friend was one of the first but not one of the last to have his name on The Wall in DC.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at August 27, 2023 12:44 PM (0EOe9)

131 120 I’m relatively new around here (commenting maybe 2 or 3 years at most) so I wouldn’t blame folks if they don’t entirely trust me… I do plan on being at the TX MoMe in October so after that some will have seen the real flesh and blood Linus…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at August 27, 2023 12:42 PM (Q/v9F)

That's what a glowie would say. /sarc

Posted by: jim (in Kalfornia) at August 27, 2023 12:45 PM (ynpvh)

132 This is why we need to abolish elections.

Posted by: The World Economic Forum! at August 27, 2023 12:45 PM (2tUFv)

133 The young men are always willing, but hey need leadership and direction from their elders, to whom they look to first.
Posted by: exdem13 at August 27, 2023 12:35 PM (W+kMI)

Yup.
And start with easy stuff.
Meetings. Spring for ammo at the range for a handful of leaders. Be vocal. Set up boycotts. Put down a hundred $ and buy yard campaign signs with your message. (Vote out Incumbents, Stop the Steal, etc). Think Burma shave style signs. Be funny with them.
Once you show you can stand up to city hall, you'll get followers.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 27, 2023 12:45 PM (hv9bm)

134 I'd like to see Vivek answer one question for me: Why is he trying to defeat the man he claims he believes is the greatest President of his lifetime?

Posted by: Mad Max in VA at August 27, 2023 12:45 PM (4+3qm)

135 Posted by: www.Payathome7.com at August 27, 2023 12:42 PM (4HAQC)

Inflation is sure high these days. Used to be $20, same as in town.

Posted by: jim (in Kalfornia) at August 27, 2023 12:45 PM (ynpvh)

136 Context is everything. Does anybody know the name of the book? I mean folks are quoting from it...

I don't.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 27, 2023 12:45 PM (I/Qkd)

137 101 The young men are always willing, but hey need leadership and direction from their elders, to whom they look to first.
Posted by: exdem13 at August 27, 2023 12:35 PM (W+kMI)

I think about that, and then I think about the field in the recent GOP debate, and I weep.
=====
I was thinking more of the wise elders here at AOSHQ, as opposed to the RNC and Congress, who are mainly a bunch of old fools.

Posted by: exdem13 at August 27, 2023 12:45 PM (W+kMI)

138 We need more people trying for office that are not career politicians. I guess it's too much to ask Repubs to support that, but it's what is needed.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at August 27, 2023 12:46 PM (ouTlx)

139 127 What's the GOP's plan to combat the Democrat's fraud this next election? Do they have their own ballot harvesting program? Preprinted ballots? Thousands of people willing to get their hands a little bloody if things don't seem to be going their way?

*shrugs*

It's all really academic at this point.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 27, 2023 12:43 PM (Q4IgG)

Law enforcement only allows the Dems to do that. You didn't know that?

Posted by: jim (in Kalfornia) at August 27, 2023 12:46 PM (ynpvh)

140 I like what Vivek has to say but after getting burned one to many times by snake oil salesmen disguised as politicians (yeah, looking at you Pence and the GOPe), I tend to follow Reagan maxim "Trust but Verify".

I would like him to continue to get out there and continue to engage with the people and push back against the media and the establishment (the country's biggest enemy) and maybe come the next election cycle he will be even stronger.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at August 27, 2023 12:46 PM (fe7in)

141 Speaking of Israel, I think Netanyahu pushed through those judicial reforms (good for him!) so now judges can’t be pretend dictators in black robes in Israel. Has democracy now died in Israel, as his opponents claimed would happen??

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at August 27, 2023 12:47 PM (Q/v9F)

142 Rammy is Trump’s stalking horse. He is doing an excellent job of it.

Posted by: Puddinhead at August 27, 2023 12:47 PM (/UtnQ)

143 Seinfeld hates people who have ponies. Just saying….
Posted by: LinusVanPelt

"All those pictures of immigrants on boats; I never saw one sitting on a pony"

Posted by: JT at August 27, 2023 12:47 PM (T4tVD)

144 Nikki wants a cabinet post again, and the others are GOPe stooges who will be lucky to get anything higher than 5% outside of their home state. Maybe.
Posted by: exdem13 at August 27, 2023 12:42 PM (W+kMI)

I listened to some of what Nikki said the other night, and there's no way to say it, other than she's a lying sack of shit. As bad as Krispy Kristie, just not as fat and ugly.

I would think Trump doesn't need anyone to tell him not to let her anywhere near his cabinet.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 27, 2023 12:47 PM (wyoua)

145 RNC Research
@RNCResearch
Karine Jean-Pierre says Biden's reason for making her press secretary was because she is "beyond capable"

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Well, at least we can all agree that she's nowhere near capable.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 27, 2023 12:48 PM (FVME7)

146 Posted by: www.Payathome7.com at August 27, 2023 12:42 PM (4HAQC)

Inflation is sure high these days. Used to be $20, same as in town.
Posted by: jim (in Kalfornia) at August 27, 2023 12:45 PM (ynpvh)
***

Where's Sarah?
She was the hawt!

Posted by: Diogenes at August 27, 2023 12:48 PM (hv9bm)

147 Look at the wiki entry for the Soros grooming scholarship fund and read the list of notable winners. Not exactly a group of pople with a "commitment to the United States' fundamental principles and ideals." Then again, I'm not a socialist, so what do I know?

Posted by: p-squared at August 27, 2023 12:48 PM (UxSB9)

148
Ronna Romney is in charge of the party.

They are our crime family politicians, dedicated to losing.

Posted by: Auspex at August 27, 2023 12:49 PM (j4U/Z)

149 But no worries, she was enthusiastically endorsed by Trump for reelection. Of course she was, legal bill had to be paid out of the R party treasury.
Posted by: runner at August 27, 2023 12:37 PM (V13WU)

———-

Why do people keep saying this when it is objectively false?

Trump stopped short of endorsing any candidate for RNC chair: 'Let them fight it out'

Link in nic.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at August 27, 2023 12:49 PM (8XuxQ)

150
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at August 27, 2023 12:42 PM (Q/v9F)

That's what a glowie would say. /sarc
Posted by: jim

Nice one Jim!

Linus, I read the stuff you post. I don't read or comment on posters who strike me as trolls.
(I may be wrong and over time I can change my opinion.)

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 27, 2023 12:50 PM (K+1Pw)

151 And they appear to be starting that up again.
Fool me twice.

They are. I fully expect to see a press conference within the next few weeks. They'll trot out the "experts" from the CDC and begin subtly stirring up the fear-mongering shit again.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 27, 2023 12:51 PM (Xrfse)

152 Vivek checks the two boxes I have.

One, he's not a lawyer. That's a big one.

Two, he's not a politician. A DC outsider.

==

sure, he is.

1) A law degree from Yale

2) He recruited Sebelius, Tom Daschle, and Olympia Snowe plus some other DC insiders to be on advisory board of one of his companies.

Posted by: runner at August 27, 2023 12:51 PM (V13WU)

153 I have been down on Ramswami since he appears very weak on the tranny/globohomo front;

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 27, 2023 12:15 PM (q3gwH)

Nonsense. Watch his chat with Riley Gaines.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 27, 2023 12:51 PM (lQONO)

154 Little known fact-Ellis Island grew extensive oat and alfalfa fields so the immigrants could graze their ponies.

Posted by: Wilbur Post at August 27, 2023 12:51 PM (83IzV)

155 144 Nikki wants a cabinet post again, and the others are GOPe stooges who will be lucky to get anything higher than 5% outside of their home state. Maybe.
Posted by: exdem13 at August 27, 2023 12:42 PM (W+kMI)

I listened to some of what Nikki said the other night, and there's no way to say it, other than she's a lying sack of shit. As bad as Krispy Kristie, just not as fat and ugly.

I would think Trump doesn't need anyone to tell him not to let her anywhere near his cabinet.
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That's fair. For myself I think we all know Nikki is the Designated Woman already, and her campaign should ease off it and work on something else, like getting her some good answers to a lot of questions. Starting with "why didn't you support Donald Trump when he contested the election results?"

Posted by: exdem13 at August 27, 2023 12:52 PM (W+kMI)

156 Has democracy now died in Israel, as his opponents claimed would happen??
Posted by: LinusVanPelt

We have blue judges (suck it Roberts) that do the exact same thing. They make laws instead of ruling as the existing laws mandate.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 27, 2023 12:52 PM (K+1Pw)

157 It’s Covid lockdown season already? Dammit, I still have my climate change decorations up.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 27, 2023 12:53 PM (u73oe)

158 I would like him to continue to get out there and continue to engage with the people and push back against the media and the establishment (the country's biggest enemy) and maybe come the next election cycle he will be even stronger.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at August 27, 2023 12:46 PM (fe7in)

I expect that's what he is going to do. Continue to express his opinions, make his points, with an understanding and expectation that IF Trump is allowed to be nominated, he will gladly and eloquently advocate for Trump.

With whatever may or may not happen in '24, he's either well positioned to take a slot in the next administration, or be more of a viable candidate in '28.

Or it all goes to hell, and none of this matters anyway.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 27, 2023 12:53 PM (wyoua)

159 RNC Research
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Democrat Rep. Eric Swalwell: "One day he's Sleepy Joe, the next day he's Corrupt Joe. I know people who are sleepy. I know people who are corrupt. I don't know anyone who is both." 🤡

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Wow! That is one full throated defense!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 27, 2023 12:54 PM (FVME7)

160 On last week's trip to the casino, I was BS'ing with one of the cops I know. We were talking vax and masks. He never got vaxed, even after the tribal management offered $300 per stab. He was telling me they won't go back to the bad old days of masking and screening for the simple reason they lost too much money.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at August 27, 2023 12:54 PM (0EOe9)

161 Interestingly, Caroline Glick and some other right-wing Israelis have proposed voluntarily giving up US military aid.

Their argument is that as the American Democratic Party becomes steadily more anti-Israel, the military aid gives the United States too much leverage over Israeli policies.

The Israeli Left continues to support the military aid, of course, precisely because it gives the United States too much leverage over Israeli policies. They like that.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 27, 2023 12:54 PM (2tUFv)

162 159 RNC Research
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Democrat Rep. Eric Swalwell: "One day he's Sleepy Joe, the next day he's Corrupt Joe. I know people who are sleepy. I know people who are corrupt. I don't know anyone who is both." 🤡

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Wow! That is one full throated defense!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 27, 2023 12:54 PM (FVME7)

I guess, in Fartwell's world, it's unpossible to be corrupt and lazy. I bet Fang-Fang did all the work.

Posted by: jim (in Kalfornia) at August 27, 2023 12:55 PM (ynpvh)

163 Wow! That is one full throated defense!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

He certain sucked the whole of it.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 27, 2023 12:55 PM (K+1Pw)

164 "The Democrats and the media run a constant clown show, but the Republicans play along as useless puppets, willfully participating in a system designed to destroy them. The Republican party is allowing itself to be rigged by playing by the rules of an old system that no longer exists. The Democrats, bureaucracy, and media are vicious apparatchiks. They are a dirty and..."

https://tinyurl.com/3mrhuzy5
American Spectator

Posted by: Braenyard at August 27, 2023 12:55 PM (NleZG)

165 "He recruited Sebelius, Tom Daschle, and Olympia Snowe plus some other DC insiders to be on advisory board of one of his companies."

Who immediately bailed on him when he started getting political.

He's not a lawyer. I'm not a physicist ether.

Posted by: pawn at August 27, 2023 12:56 PM (wsHtO)

166 If I woulda just stayed in the house, I would be on track to be the next Paul Ryan

Posted by: meatball at August 27, 2023 12:56 PM (us2H3)

167 We need more people trying for office that are not career politicians.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at August 27, 2023 12:46 PM (ouTlx)

I agree. That's one reason why I like Ramaswamy.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 27, 2023 12:56 PM (lQONO)

168 @134

>> I'd like to see Vivek answer one question for me: Why is he trying to defeat the man he claims he believes is the greatest President of his lifetime?

He's not, he has nothing but praise for Trump, what we are witnessing is essentially a one man episode of The Apprentice.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 27, 2023 12:56 PM (XV/Pl)

169 Certainly the lable Republican isn't enough, there is more needed than just a name tag.

Posted by: Skip at August 27, 2023 12:57 PM (MOY79)

170 Karine Jean-Pierre says Biden's reason for making her press secretary was because she is "beyond capable"

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Well, at least we can all agree that she's nowhere near capable.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 27, 2023 12:48 PM (FVME7)

Sure she is. Capable of mouthing whatever they put in front of her. Willing to lie right to the faces of people who generally know she's lying to them, even if their nooz orgs are in on the lie.

She's Goebbels. Only uglier.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 27, 2023 12:57 PM (wyoua)

171 This Soros, Vivek thing is not a big deal, just like Trump accepting a loan from Soros.

"Soros gave Donald Trump a mezzanine loan, which is basically a bailout, because Trump didn’t want to, or couldn’t, front his own money to build the Chicago Trump Tower. Mezzanine loans are loans offered with outrageous interest that help the developer on the front end of finance, and which often offer a stake in the building.

Trump was also named in a lawsuit along with Soros in New York surrounding the sale of the GM Building, so it’s not as if Trump only dealt with Soros in Chicago."

https://tinyurl.com/5xw7s5fk

Posted by: redridinghood at August 27, 2023 12:57 PM (NpAcC)

172 Agree that all R candidates should be directing ALL their fire at uniparty democrats.
It really should be that simple and is the epitome of a target-rich environment.

Posted by: uniparty, Raping and Mutilating the Children They Do Not Kill at August 27, 2023 12:57 PM (ifg0n)

173 Vivek is a chameleon !

Posted by: runner at August 27, 2023 12:58 PM (V13WU)

174 OT Folks talking cars leads me to believe we need a weekend car thread. I nominate AOP. And an airplane thread with Anna Puma running the show.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at August 27, 2023 12:58 PM (0EOe9)

175 I'd like to hear from potential candidates who they'd invite into their administration and in what positions. That (to me) would be enlightening. It might answer how well their perception of people and motives are... something that I think should have been done in previous elections.

Not that it matters in the final analysis because choices may be made for them anyway. But still...

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 27, 2023 12:58 PM (Q4IgG)

176 And they appear to be starting that up again.
Fool me twice.

There are a lot of people who are going to be getting a second chance to do things right. I look forward to this round.

Posted by: t-bird at August 27, 2023 12:58 PM (CaJIi)

177 She's Goebbels. Only uglier.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 27, 2023 12:57 PM (wyoua)

Goebbels was a very intelligent man. She is dumb as a post, but does what she is told.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 27, 2023 12:58 PM (lQONO)

178 141 Speaking of Israel, I think Netanyahu pushed through those judicial reforms (good for him!) so now judges can’t be pretend dictators in black robes in Israel. Has democracy now died in Israel, as his opponents claimed would happen??
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at August 27, 2023 12:47 PM (Q/v9F)

It's still an open question; the Knesset passed the law, but the Israeli Supreme Court has scheduled hearings and may declare that any law that says they can't run the country they want is invalid. At that point, we will see whether Netanyahu has enough military support to abolish the Supreme Court and rule without it. It will require a military lockdow, and probably a lot of deaths to do it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 27, 2023 12:59 PM (q3gwH)

179 --- The Israeli Left continues to support the military aid, of course, precisely because it gives the United States too much leverage over Israeli policies. They like that.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 27, 2023

Very interesting

Posted by: Braenyard at August 27, 2023 12:59 PM (NleZG)

180 >> I'd like to see Vivek answer one question for me: Why is he trying to defeat the man he claims he believes is the greatest President of his lifetime?

He's not, he has nothing but praise for Trump, what we are witnessing is essentially a one man episode of The Apprentice.
Posted by: Thomas Bender

I see it another way: Vivek sees that if Trump is actually prevented from running (health, politics) Vivek will be there ready and willing and a definite not establishment choice.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 27, 2023 01:00 PM (K+1Pw)

181 There is still a chance the Deep State will somehow through 78 charges they will get 1 through their Kangaroo Courts

Posted by: Skip at August 27, 2023 01:01 PM (MOY79)

182 USMC Osprey down in Australia.
Three Marines dead, 20 injured. 5 seriously injured in hospital in Darwin.
Crash was on Melville Island during joint exercises

https://tinyurl.com/bdz528p2
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A pilot friend of mine says they are deathtaps but I always thought Ospreys were cool.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 27, 2023 01:01 PM (FVME7)

183
RNC Research
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Karine Jean-Pierre says Biden's reason for making her press secretary was because she is "beyond capable"

Just like a vegetable is "beyond meat"

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 27, 2023 01:02 PM (63Dwl)

184 Scott Presler has a plan for ballot harvesting and has been training filks in it as part of his GOTV effort. Ronna won't give him the time of day.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at August 27, 2023 01:02 PM (ouTlx)

185 My problems with Vivek are that he has that used car salesman type of vibe and his solutions for dealing with the federal government are not possible.
I listened to him be interviewed on The Blaze after the Iowa forum and he said every conservative pie in the sky dream ever wanted could be realized using existing federal law. Has has not watched the lower courts stop everything Trump tried to do, stop red states from enforcing abortion laws, and continually thumb their nose at SCOTUS by ignoring the Bruen decision?
He is either incredibly stupid or a shameless liar. I don't know which of those options would be the worst.

Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at August 27, 2023 01:02 PM (vCXKu)

186 Astronomy Alert - "Blue supermoon" 8/30. Won't return till 2037.

Posted by: runner at August 27, 2023 01:03 PM (V13WU)

187 That's what a glowie would say. /sarc
Posted by: jim

Nice one Jim!

Linus, I read the stuff you post. I don't read or comment on posters who strike me as trolls.
(I may be wrong and over time I can change my opinion.)
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 27, 2023 12:50 PM (K+1Pw)

Thank you, fellow morons! Really glad I discovered this place; I always learn reading the COBs and the comments

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at August 27, 2023 01:04 PM (xT8gx)

188 Vivek will tell you tell what you wanna hear. he was great at selling his "process". made millions.

Posted by: runner at August 27, 2023 01:04 PM (V13WU)

189 Okay. Found an article at Politico. 🤮

https://is.gd/PpkcSC

apparently an excerpt from his book, "Nation of Victims: Identity Politics, the Death of Merit, and the Path Back to Excellence"

"Top election officials in virtually every state, regardless of party, said they’d found no evidence of any significant level of fraud. Our institutions did hold, in the end. But they shouldn’t have been tested."
Disagree. They should be tested. Elections should be secure, and election rules in many states do not make it so.

To be fair, he takes the same swipes at the Dems:
"But President Joe Biden and other top Democrats call them Jim Crow 2.0. I guess that’s because 'the New Jim Crow' was already taken by one of their other victimhood narratives. They apply the Jim Crow label to a number of Republican-led voting reforms, most of them pretty innocuous."

Posted by: jim (in Kalfornia) at August 27, 2023 01:04 PM (ynpvh)

190 Karine Jean-Pierre says Biden's reason for making her press secretary was because she is "beyond capable"

All diversity hires are The Most Capable Candidate Ever, and you are a racist and should be imprisioned if you think otherwise.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 27, 2023 01:04 PM (2tUFv)

191 Osprey: both cool AND a death trap.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at August 27, 2023 01:04 PM (NBVIP)

192 --- so now judges can’t be pretend dictators in black robes in Israel. Has democracy now died in Israel, as his opponents claimed would happen??
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at August

No, but the Republic is rising

Posted by: Braenyard at August 27, 2023 01:04 PM (NleZG)

193 186 Oh, shit. Looks like a comeback tour. Hope we don't hit Youngstown. Things were getting nice here in The Home.

The Marcels

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at August 27, 2023 01:06 PM (0EOe9)

194 At that point, we will see whether Netanyahu has enough military support to abolish the Supreme Court and rule without it.

The IDF leadership appears to be on the side of the judicial fascists.

A military coup against Bibi is a real possibility.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 27, 2023 01:06 PM (2tUFv)

195 All conservative sites will be survielled, the roles will be swelled, trust will be at a premium. Good times indeed.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at August 27, 2023 01:06 PM (oWBc3)

196 Posted by: redridinghood at August 27, 2023 12:57 PM (NpAcC)

Or using Epstein's jet to get to the East Coast when his jet wasn't working.
And still, no released list. Wonder why? If Trump was on it, it would have been leaked almost immediately...

Posted by: jim (in Kalfornia) at August 27, 2023 01:06 PM (ynpvh)

197 I guess, in Fartwell's world, it's unpossible to be corrupt and lazy. I bet Fang-Fang did all the work.
Posted by: jim (in Kalfornia) at August 27, 2023 12:55 PM (ynpvh)

Either he is that stupid, or he's well aware of politicians who die of old age, still in office.

Hell, he wouldn't even have to point to his own corrupt party. There's Mitch, right there. And before him, John McCain, Strom Thurman, Jesse Helms.

Even Bush Sr. was still fancying himself a kingmaker, when half his time he was wheelchair bound, grabbing female staffer's asses, and saying things that can't be repeated in polite company.

Sundowning happens all the time, and the extent to which you CAN'T say anything about the person is an indicating of just how corrupt your people are.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 27, 2023 01:07 PM (XOqgb)

198 if NTers don't come around and drop their childish BS

they will reap the whirlwind the next time a Mitt or a McLame or a Bushie runs

neverism is a two way street

I mean FFS, Trump will be the nominee and all of your nipping will only serve the dims

after this election, you can dial down your esoteric Trump hate and return to backing moderates

in other words, pull your head outta your ass

Posted by: REDACTED at August 27, 2023 01:07 PM (us2H3)

199 Reaching out across the aisle.

Trump Attorney Thanks Fani Willis for Strengthening 2024 Odds

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 27, 2023 01:07 PM (FVME7)

200 Ospreys do look awesome but yes they have to be tricky to fly.

I read maybe Friday a F-18(?) went down

Posted by: Skip at August 27, 2023 01:07 PM (MOY79)

201 A pilot friend of mine says they are deathtaps but I always thought Ospreys were cool.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 27, 2023 01:01 PM (FVME7)

Typical military spend lots of money for some new fangled cool looking thingee. Does it work? Who knows let’s get it out in the field and see what happens.
The 53’s and 46’s were war horses. Old, but worked and worked well. So let’s replace them.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 27, 2023 01:08 PM (R/m4+)

202 "Has has not watched the lower courts stop everything Trump tried to do, stop red states from enforcing abortion laws, and continually thumb their nose at SCOTUS by ignoring the Bruen decision?"

Is this a valid criticism? What's the alternative?

Should he say that fighting the DS is useless, there's no point so vote for me?

This is a political campaign going on here. This is what they look like.

Posted by: pawn at August 27, 2023 01:08 PM (wsHtO)

203 He is either incredibly stupid or a shameless liar.

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Republican. It's Door #2.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 27, 2023 01:08 PM (0FoWg)

204 "roles will be swelled?"

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at August 27, 2023 01:08 PM (NBVIP)

205 She's Goebbels. Only uglier.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 27, 2023 12:57 PM (wyoua)

Goebbels was a very intelligent man. She is dumb as a post, but does what she is told.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 27, 2023 12:58 PM (lQONO)

That's true, but what she's willing to say for her party, I honestly don't see any real difference.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 27, 2023 01:09 PM (XOqgb)

206 CBD congratulations to you and JJ on a really good podcast.

You commented on Vivek's purported "flip-flopping" and my thought was, well people have got to be permitted to evolve. We need to differentiate honest political evolution from pandering and grifting. Vivek seems like a thoughtful guy who can describe how he has changed in a way that to my mind lends him credibility.

When challenged he does not defend, he explains.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 27, 2023 01:09 PM (RIvkX)

207 The 53’s and 46’s were war horses. Old, but worked and worked well. So let’s replace them.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 27, 2023 01:08 PM (R/m4+)

Makes sense. And the most successful, tough and survivable ground attack aircraft in history?

Lets get rid of it!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 27, 2023 01:09 PM (lQONO)

208 Sen. Kennedy: Being Lectured by Biden and Media About the Injustice of Privilege Is Like Being Lectured on Gun Safety by Alec Baldwin

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 27, 2023 01:09 PM (FVME7)

209 Pony + Pony Car >>>>>>> Barbi + Barbi Mobile

Posted by: db (lowercase since 2008) back from a 2 year break at August 27, 2023 01:09 PM (wu87C)

210 It's still an open question; the Knesset passed the law, but the Israeli Supreme Court has scheduled hearings and may declare that any law that says they can't run the country they want is invalid. At that point, we will see whether Netanyahu has enough military support to abolish the Supreme Court and rule without it. It will require a military lockdow, and probably a lot of deaths to do it.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 27, 2023 12:59 PM (q3gwH)

I did not know that and it’s depressing. I love the circular logic of the Supreme Court (unelected, right?) declaring/dictating that no one can curtail the power of the Supreme Court. I guess they’d just be announcing that voting really doesn’t matter… I mean how many times has Bibi been elected?!

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at August 27, 2023 01:10 PM (xT8gx)

211 CBD congratulations to you and JJ on a really good podcast.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 27, 2023 01:09 PM (RIvkX)

Thanks! It was a fun one in spite of the technical glitches.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 27, 2023 01:10 PM (lQONO)

212 Karine Jean-Pierre says Biden's reason for making her press secretary was because she is "beyond capable"

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Well, at least we can all agree that she's nowhere near capable.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 27, 2023 12:48 PM (FVME7)

Those who brag about how capable or smart they are, aren't.

Posted by: Gref at August 27, 2023 01:10 PM (AMIL/)

213 "Top election officials in virtually every state, regardless of party, said they’d found no evidence of any significant level of fraud. Our institutions did hold, in the end. But they shouldn’t have been tested."
Disagree. They should be tested. Elections should be secure, and election rules in many states do not make it so.

To be fair, he takes the same swipes at the Dems:
"But President Joe Biden and other top Democrats call them Jim Crow 2.0. I guess that’s because 'the New Jim Crow' was already taken by one of their other victimhood narratives. They apply the Jim Crow label to a number of Republican-led voting reforms, most of them pretty innocuous."
Posted by: jim (in Kalfornia) at August 27, 2023 01:04 PM (ynpvh)

Anyone who says the 2020 elections were free of fraud because "top officials" said so is either hopelessly naive, or a base liar.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 27, 2023 01:10 PM (s4bks)

214 Osprey's are a McCain grift.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 27, 2023 01:11 PM (NleZG)

215 Good morning morons

MSNBC asks "Who is Vivek Ramaswamy Anyway?"

Vivek must be over the target if they are starting to attack.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 27, 2023 06:53 AM (RIvkX)

Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 27, 2023 01:11 PM (RIvkX)

216 200 Ospreys do look awesome but yes they have to be tricky to fly.

I read maybe Friday a F-18(?) went down

Posted by: Skip at August 27, 2023 01:07 PM (MOY79)

Near the Miramar MCAS.
Pilot died.

Posted by: jim (in Kalfornia) at August 27, 2023 01:11 PM (ynpvh)

217 What's the name of the book?
Posted by: jim (in Kalfornia)

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"Nation of Victims", 2022

https://tinyurl.com/2tp6rsv7

Posted by: Blago at August 27, 2023 01:12 PM (cOFom)

218 Who is Vivek Ramaswamy Anyway?"

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In all fairness...we all are asking that.

Posted by: runner at August 27, 2023 01:12 PM (V13WU)

219 Do you believe with Biden and us in the final total victory of the American people? Are you and the American people willing to work, if Biden orders, 10, 12 and if necessary 14 hours a day and to give everything for victory? Do you want total war? If necessary, do you want a war more total and radical than anything that we can even imagine today?

Posted by: KJP, After We Go Into Ukraine! at August 27, 2023 01:12 PM (2tUFv)

220 Oh, shit. Looks like a comeback tour. Hope we don't hit Youngstown. Things were getting nice here in The Home.

The Marcels

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at August 27, 2023 01:06 PM (0EOe9)

Youngstown? Isn't that where Dean Martin was born?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at August 27, 2023 01:12 PM (Angsy)

221 203 He is either incredibly stupid or a shameless liar.

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Republican. It's Door #2.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 27, 2023 01:08 PM (0FoWg)

There's always embracing the power of AND.

Posted by: jim (in Kalfornia) at August 27, 2023 01:12 PM (ynpvh)

222 183
RNC Research
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Karine Jean-Pierre says Biden's reason for making her press secretary was because she is "beyond capable"

Just like a vegetable is "beyond meat"
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 27, 2023 01:02 PM (63Dwl)
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At least that insane fad is dying in the USA. A little aside I went to Burger King a couple days ago, I hadn't gone to one in years, & their menu was so limited. Their "Impossible Burger" & corporation deserve the death that is coming to them.
AP - Beyond Meat revenue plummets in the second quarter due to flagging US demand

Plant-based meat substitute maker Beyond Meat said its revenue plunged 30.5% in the second quarter as consumer demand for its burgers, sausages and other products fell despite price cuts.
The El Segundo, California-based company lowered its full-year revenue forecast as a result. Beyond Meat now expects revenue between $360 million and $380 million for the year. That’s down from the $375 million to $415 million it forecast at the end of the first quarter.

Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at August 27, 2023 01:12 PM (vCXKu)

223

Posted by: KJP, After We Go Into Ukraine! at August 27, 2023 01:12 PM (2tUFv)

224 *A pilot friend of mine says they are deathtaps but I always thought Ospreys were cool.*

Typical product of the military industrial complex; complexity for the sake of complexity. If it were a safe and optimal design you would see tiltrotors in widespread commercial use.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at August 27, 2023 01:12 PM (9yUzE)

225 MSNBC asks "Who is Vivek Ramaswamy Anyway?"

Vivek must be over the target if they are starting to attack.
Posted by: ~~San Franpsycho~~ CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 27, 2023 06:53 AM (RIvkX)

Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 27, 2023 01:11 PM (RIvkX)

What's your point?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 27, 2023 01:12 PM (lQONO)

226 NY Gov. Hochul Begs Biden for Help With Illegals, Blames Texas for Crisis

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Yeah, I remember when Texas was all let's punch holes in the bottom of the boat and let the water in!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 27, 2023 01:13 PM (FVME7)

227 The IDF leadership appears to be on the side of the judicial fascists.

A military coup against Bibi is a real possibility.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 27, 2023 01:06 PM (2tUFv)

he needs to do what Hugo Chavez and Obama did, which is gain power and then spend years replacing everyone at the top with your own people. But that takes a lot of organization and planning to pull off. One of the things I fault Trump for was being an abject failure at ever putting his own people in key positions.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 27, 2023 01:13 PM (q3gwH)

228 That's true, but what she's willing to say for her party, I honestly don't see any real difference.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 27, 2023 01:09 PM (XOqgb)

Goebbels was in the top rank of the inner Nazi Party. He created the lies he peddled.

KJP is just a Chatty Cathy doll. Biden's handlers pull the string, and the little phonograph record goes round and round.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 27, 2023 01:14 PM (s4bks)

229 220 Steubenville. Dean Martin Boulevard. Coolest Boulevard in the country. Because Dino was cool.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at August 27, 2023 01:14 PM (0EOe9)

230 > A pilot friend of mine says they are deathtaps but I always thought Ospreys were cool.
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IIRC the Army wants to replace their fleet of Blackhawk helicopters. The winning design is from Bell; the V-280 Valor a "baby" V-22 Osprey knockoff.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 27, 2023 01:14 PM (Q4IgG)

231 He's changed his position on just about everything in the last year or two. He's not a Soros stooge, but he's a charlatan, saying what he thinks are the right things. If what he says isn't getting the response he wants, he changes his position. He's cynical and superficial. And the 'if he's taking flak he's over the target' thing is moronic... Biden's taking flak because his domestic and foreign policies are just THAT GOOD?

Posted by: splatter at August 27, 2023 01:14 PM (Y5QyT)

232 Those who brag about how capable or smart they are, aren't.

I'm the most devout Catholic ever!

Posted by: Drrolin' Joe Biden! at August 27, 2023 01:14 PM (2tUFv)

233 217 What's the name of the book?
Posted by: jim (in Kalfornia)

___
"Nation of Victims", 2022

https://tinyurl.com/2tp6rsv7

Posted by: Blago at August 27, 2023 01:12 PM (cOFom)

Thanks. Found it on interwebs in comment #189

Posted by: jim (in Kalfornia) at August 27, 2023 01:14 PM (ynpvh)

234 We've been making plant-based meat for a loooong time.

Posted by: Angus cattle at August 27, 2023 01:14 PM (NBVIP)

235 219 Do you believe with Biden and us in the final total victory of the American people? Are you and the American people willing to work, if Biden orders, 10, 12 and if necessary 14 hours a day and to give everything for victory? Do you want total war? If necessary, do you want a war more total and radical than anything that we can even imagine today?
Posted by: KJP, After We Go Into Ukraine! at August 27, 2023 01:12 PM (2tUFv)

Ha, ISWYDT.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 27, 2023 01:15 PM (q3gwH)

236 Richard Pryor's bit on Youngstown was definitely based on personal experience.

https://youtu.be/-G0g_DIpMRg

Posted by: pawn at August 27, 2023 01:15 PM (wsHtO)

237 A pilot friend of mine says they are deathtaps but I always thought Ospreys were cool.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

Built like tanks.
Excellent for insertions and extractions under heavy fire...

/ Hah hah hah ha

Honestly. Pure novelty. Because Chinooks are so old school.

/ not I'd wannabe in a chinook under heavy fire either. That is Hillary level shiite.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at August 27, 2023 01:15 PM (ga8qR)

238 Osprey: both cool AND a death trap.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty

A former Marine of my acquaintance said the reason a platoon runs out of the rear of the Osprey with such enthusiasm and speed is due to the fact that what ever shitstorm they are being dropped into couldn't possibly be as potentially lethal as being transported in that airframe.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 27, 2023 01:15 PM (EJWxb)

239 There's always embracing the power of AND.
Posted by: jim (in Kalfornia) at August 27, 2023 01:12 PM (ynpvh)

Yeah, it's 90% of the (R)enfield Party. But I figure the young billionaire isn't a tard.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 27, 2023 01:15 PM (0FoWg)

240 If Vivek is the POTUS or VPOTUS nominee, the Democrat-Media Complex will work harder to destroy him that they do to destroy Trump. There is no way the Complex will allow a person darker than Obama and Kamala to be elected. Sad, but true.

Posted by: Gref at August 27, 2023 01:16 PM (AMIL/)

241 Or using Epstein's jet to get to the East Coast when his jet wasn't working.
And still, no released list. Wonder why? If Trump was on it, it would have been leaked almost immediately...
Posted by: jim (in Kalfornia) at August 27, 2023 01:06 PM (ynpvh)

There are some who still see Trump as being linked to Epstein, and part of the reason the lists (not to mention the nearly infinite hours of security footage) don't get released is because they WON'T have the goods on Trump. A bunch of other people? Sure, including plenty of Republicans and businessmen and scientists.

So in a way, linking Vivek to Soros is much the same as linking Trump to Epstein. It's damn near impossible for the paths not to have crossed, but the question is, are you compromised by one's associations or not? I don't see how either man is.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 27, 2023 01:16 PM (wyoua)

242 which is gain power and then spend years replacing everyone at the top with your own people

Bibi's been Prime Minister for a long time.

I'm not sure why he let the Left control the IDF leadership.

Orban purged all the officers associated with NATO in Hungary, specifically because they could not be trusted.

Posted by: Drrolin' Joe Biden! at August 27, 2023 01:16 PM (2tUFv)

243 230 > A pilot friend of mine says they are deathtaps but I always thought Ospreys were cool.
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IIRC the Army wants to replace their fleet of Blackhawk helicopters. The winning design is from Bell; the V-280 Valor a "baby" V-22 Osprey knockoff.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 27, 2023 01:14 PM (Q4IgG)

From my understanding, the biggest danger zone is changing from vertical to horizontal (or vice-versa) propeller operation

Posted by: jim (in Kalfornia) at August 27, 2023 01:16 PM (ynpvh)

244 Canada's Foreign Affairs Minister Says They're Preparing for Potential Far-Right Shift in U.S.

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From your mouth to God's ear.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 27, 2023 01:17 PM (FVME7)

245 What's with the cartoon - Shit Biden Said?

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at August 27, 2023 01:17 PM (ga8qR)

246 the debate on FOX accomplished the dims goals

don't talk about Joe being a fucking crook

not pressuring Mrs Luntz to open an impeachment inquiry

not talking about rampant immigration

boxing in the GOP with anti abortion spew

reminding everyone that Trump is possibly a criminal

not one fucking word on the eventual debt bomb

that Joe wants to eliminate the #1 asset of the US government , student debt

after another drink, I'll name some more

Posted by: REDACTED at August 27, 2023 01:17 PM (us2H3)

247 Vivek will tell you tell what you wanna hear. he was great at selling his "process". made millions.
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Good for him. Now tell me all about how Pence, deSantis, Haley, Christie, et al. made their $$$.

I'll wait.

Posted by: mustbequantum at August 27, 2023 01:17 PM (MIKMs)

248 At least that insane fad is dying in the USA. A little aside I went to Burger King a couple days ago, I hadn't gone to one in years, & their menu was so limited. Their "Impossible Burger" & corporation deserve the death that is coming to them.
AP - Beyond Meat revenue plummets in the second quarter due to flagging US demand

Plant-based meat substitute maker Beyond Meat said its revenue plunged 30.5% in the second quarter as consumer demand for its burgers, sausages and other products fell despite price cuts.
The El Segundo, California-based company lowered its full-year revenue forecast as a result. Beyond Meat now expects revenue between $360 million and $380 million for the year. That’s down from the $375 million to $415 million it forecast at the end of the first quarter.
Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at August 27, 2023 01:12 PM (vCXKu)

The meat I eat is all plant-based. I can look out my east window and see a hundred self-propelled beef factories out in the pasture, happily noshing down on...plants.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 27, 2023 01:18 PM (s4bks)

249 Scott Presler has a plan for ballot harvesting and has been training filks in it as part of his GOTV effort. Ronna won't give him the time of day.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at August 27, 2023 01:02 PM (ouTlx)
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Scot likes to win. Ronna pretends to like to win.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 27, 2023 01:18 PM (RIvkX)

250 Chuck Norris is in his eighties and has more energy now than he ever did.

Posted by: Puddinhead at August 27, 2023 01:19 PM (/UtnQ)

251 207 I had a Skipper in the Corps who started out rotor wing in 53s and then transitioned to fixed wings. Maybe it was the other way around but his Vietnam flying was in 53s. His Air Medal device didn't have stars, but numbers, like in the 70s. Says something about an aviator and what he was flying.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at August 27, 2023 01:19 PM (0EOe9)

252 Steubenville.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at August 27, 2023 01:14 PM (0EOe9)

That's better?

(makes chalk mark)

Posted by: Zombie Don Rickles at August 27, 2023 01:20 PM (Angsy)

253 252 Steubenville.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at August 27, 2023 01:14 PM (0EOe9)

That's better?

(makes chalk mark)

Posted by: Zombie Don Rickles at August 27, 2023 01:20 PM (Angsy)

At least it ain't a chalk outline

Posted by: Chicago at August 27, 2023 01:21 PM (ynpvh)

254 The interesting thing isn't that Vivek tells you what you want to hear. It's that the others running don't.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at August 27, 2023 01:21 PM (ouTlx)

255 202 "Has has not watched the lower courts stop everything Trump tried to do, stop red states from enforcing abortion laws, and continually thumb their nose at SCOTUS by ignoring the Bruen decision?"

Is this a valid criticism? What's the alternative?

Should he say that fighting the DS is useless, there's no point so vote for me?

This is a political campaign going on here. This is what they look like.
Posted by: pawn at August 27, 2023 01:08 PM (wsHtO)
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He is supposed to be the new, young, fresh face of the GOP with new ideas! Maybe he could say he would ignore the lower court rulings and enforce his decisions using the full force of the federal government and dare the courts to stop him. That would impress me but please stop with the fantasy talk.
I am tired of being lied to by politicians with empty promises that mean nothing.

Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at August 27, 2023 01:22 PM (vCXKu)

256 Every once in awhile I can go down the Chuck Norris meme black hole on the internet….. and laugh and laugh; it’s an almost endless source of amusement.

Useless trivia: Did you know that Vin Deisel was the original Chuck Norris meme guy (it started on Reddit)? But the Chuck-based meme caught fire instead….

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at August 27, 2023 01:23 PM (xT8gx)

257 "Top election officials in virtually every state, regardless of party, said they’d found no evidence of any significant level of fraud. Our institutions did hold, in the end. But they shouldn’t have been tested."

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As long as top election officials say so.

Also the top medical people in government said they didn’t find any evidence of COVID being man made.

Also after years of investigating itself, the DoJ said no laws were broken in the Russia collusion hoax.

Also all these top prosecutors can’t be wrong about prosecuting Trump.

President Joe Biden, top official in the country, said he’s all clear on corruption allegations.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at August 27, 2023 01:23 PM (8XuxQ)

258 Bill in Arkansas, when you were sentenced to Youngstown, did you frequent the clubs down in Lowellville at all?

I wasn't there until the late 70's so I probably missed you.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 27, 2023 01:23 PM (EJWxb)

259 Those who brag about how capable or smart they are, aren't.
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I'm the most devout Catholic ever!
Posted by: Drrolin' Joe Biden! at August 27, 2023 01:14 PM (2tUFv)

For what it's worth, this may be a generational thing that will change in ways, not to the liking of older folks.

The new culture values self-promotion, in ways that many will find quite off-putting. But then, that too is the story of Trump.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 27, 2023 01:23 PM (k0NXz)

260 "Top election officials in virtually every state, regardless of party, said they’d found no evidence of any significant level of fraud."

Significant?

Oh yeah. There are shiite-loads of fraud but if you look at it from over here and squint your eyes just right.... nope. Not significant at all.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at August 27, 2023 01:23 PM (ga8qR)

261 Oregon Voters Increasingly Support Repealing Drug Decriminalization

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You can't trust them! They're high!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 27, 2023 01:24 PM (FVME7)

262 Why do people keep saying this when it is objectively false?

Trump stopped short of endorsing any candidate for RNC chair: 'Let them fight it out'

Link in nic.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at August 27, 2023 12:49 PM (8XuxQ)

Foramaly endorsed twice and supported in 23. did he say she was incompetent and enough is enough? it's not like he does not know how ...no he did not - "I think they’re both good. I like them both." WIth that record of hers, what's not to like ?

Posted by: runner at August 27, 2023 01:24 PM (V13WU)

263 The word Ohio looks like a tractor...
YKID!

Posted by: Mister Ghost at August 27, 2023 01:24 PM (TGPs7)

264 Happy Blessed Sunday Afternoon to Hordettes...

Posted by: Mister Ghost at August 27, 2023 01:25 PM (TGPs7)

265 248
The meat I eat is all plant-based. I can look out my east window and see a hundred self-propelled beef factories out in the pasture, happily noshing down on...plants.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 27, 2023 01:18 PM (s4bks)

Impossible Burger ingredients:
https://www.rd.com/article/
impossible-burger-ingredients/
"Impossible uses the heme-containing protein from the roots of soy plants and inserts it into a genetically engineered yeast....The genetically-modified yeast goes through a fermentation to make lots of heme.."
"water, textured wheat protein, coconut oil, potato protein, natural flavors, 2 percent or less of: leghemoglobin (soy), yeast extract, salt, konjac gum, xanthan gum, soy protein isolate, vitamin E, vitamin C, thiamin (vitamin B1), zinc, niacin, vitamin B6, riboflavin (vitamin B2), and vitamin B12"
"Impossible Burgers are still a highly processed food."

Posted by: Chicago at August 27, 2023 01:25 PM (ynpvh)

266 246 the debate on FOX accomplished the dims goals

don't talk about Joe being a fucking crook

not pressuring Mrs Luntz to open an impeachment inquiry

not talking about rampant immigration

boxing in the GOP with anti abortion spew

reminding everyone that Trump is possibly a criminal

not one fucking word on the eventual debt bomb

that Joe wants to eliminate the #1 asset of the US government , student debt

after another drink, I'll name some more
Posted by: REDACTED at August 27, 2023 01:17 PM (us2H3)

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I didn’t watch it because so figured it would be bad, but not THAT bad.

Surely you’re overstating it.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at August 27, 2023 01:26 PM (8XuxQ)

267 And the 'if he's taking flak he's over the target' thing is moronic... Biden's taking flak because his domestic and foreign policies are just THAT GOOD?

Posted by: splatter at August 27, 2023 01:14 PM (Y5QyT)

Do you not understand the difference?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 27, 2023 01:26 PM (lQONO)

268 Off onerous city sock

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 27, 2023 01:26 PM (ynpvh)

269 these fucking NT GOP politicians could help the GOP by running for the senate or house

Fucking Sununu probably could be setting in the senate atm but he's too much of a fat fucking bushie, die and fuck off clown

Noem could probably take Thune but she a fucking GOPe cunt

and Vivek needs to find first or second base instead of swinging for the fences

however, I understand meatball's move. He's dead man walking with no political future, even moreso with his pathetic campaign

JD and Youngkin look like the big brains of the GOP

Posted by: REDACTED at August 27, 2023 01:27 PM (us2H3)

270 Foramaly endorsed twice and supported in 23. did he say she was incompetent and enough is enough? it's not like he does not know how ...no he did not - "I think they’re both good. I like them both." WIth that record of hers, what's not to like ?
Posted by: runner at August 27, 2023 01:24 PM (V13WU)

————

Show me where he endorsed her.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at August 27, 2023 01:27 PM (8XuxQ)

271 LA Mayor Blames Crime on "Things Just Happening" Instead of Lack of Consequences for Crime

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Dude, the expression is "shit happens." Do better.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 27, 2023 01:28 PM (FVME7)

272 If anything, I think conservatives have a reverse racism problem. Sort of like how did Herschel Walker become a Senate candidate when he was so obviously mentally impaired?

If Vivek were some young white guy, most would be aghast at how obnoxious and what a fraud he is. But we have this idea that because he has brown skin, it's going to open all these doors for us. It never works.

Posted by: Blago at August 27, 2023 01:28 PM (cOFom)

273 I love this place. And I hope with all the ad revenue, this venture is at minimum break even. However, the f'ing toe fungus, skin tags, parasitic worms and people sticking apples in their ears does nothing to improve the experience here. It would actually be nice if there WAS a tier of membership that could get that crap-ware off my machine.
Happy Sunday.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at August 27, 2023 01:28 PM (7Fj9P)

274 263 The word Ohio looks like a tractor...
YKID!

Posted by: Mister Ghost at August 27, 2023 01:24 PM (TGPs7)

LOL, that it does, now that you mention it. Even with exhaust coming out (i).

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 27, 2023 01:28 PM (ynpvh)

275 Show me where he endorsed her.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at August 27, 2023 01:27 PM (8Xux

2017 and 2020; supported in 2023.

Posted by: runner at August 27, 2023 01:28 PM (V13WU)

276 The interesting thing isn't that Vivek tells you what you want to hear. It's that the others running don't.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at August 27, 2023 01:21 PM (ouTlx)
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Who is the constituency supporting Asa Hutchinson or Chris Christie? They have also concluded that elections are meaningless.

As I listen to them, I think "who are you talking to?"

Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 27, 2023 01:28 PM (RIvkX)

277 258 Tonypete, I got out of the Corps in 76 and it was afterwards I would visit Youngstown, Warren being so non entertaining. The clubs were great and I still have a couple keys in my junk box (Warren and Youngstown). One of the greatest things was drinking your way down South Avenue to Boardman.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at August 27, 2023 01:29 PM (0EOe9)

278 should I retype that again ?

Posted by: runner at August 27, 2023 01:29 PM (V13WU)

279 Joe's hands are tied!

White House Tells New York They Can't Help With Migrant Crisis Without Congressional Approval

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 27, 2023 01:29 PM (FVME7)

280 271 LA Mayor Blames Crime on "Things Just Happening" Instead of Lack of Consequences for Crime

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Dude, the expression is "shit happens." Do better.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 27, 2023 01:28 PM (FVME7)

I think that was trademarked back in the 70's.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 27, 2023 01:30 PM (ynpvh)

281 272 If anything, I think conservatives have a reverse racism problem. Sort of like how did Herschel Walker become a Senate candidate when he was so obviously mentally impaired?

If Vivek were some young white guy, most would be aghast at how obnoxious and what a fraud he is. But we have this idea that because he has brown skin, it's going to open all these doors for us. It never works.

Posted by: Blago at August 27, 2023 01:28 PM (cOFom)

I don't give a shit about skin color. I guess I'm not like most?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 27, 2023 01:30 PM (ynpvh)

282 Show me where he endorsed her.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at August 27, 2023 01:27 PM (8XuxQ)

She, more than anyone else besides Trump himself was responsible for the loss in 2020 and 2022.

That he didn't vigorously campaign for Dhillon is an indictment of Trump's ability to judge people.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 27, 2023 01:31 PM (lQONO)

283 2017 and 2020; supported in 2023.
Posted by: runner at August 27, 2023 01:28 PM (V13WU)

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Awwww. You’re being cute like Meatball.

So he actually withdrew his endorsement in 2023.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at August 27, 2023 01:31 PM (8XuxQ)

284 I also want a pony

With all the GOPe horseshit there's bound to be one in there somewhere.

Posted by: Just the punchline at August 27, 2023 01:31 PM (FhXTo)

285 San Francisco Mayor Suddenly Realizes Massive Homeless Encampments Are a Problem

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Is it just me or are a lot of chickens coming home to roost?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 27, 2023 01:32 PM (FVME7)

286 279 Joe's hands are tied!

White House Tells New York They Can't Help With Migrant Crisis Without Congressional Approval

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 27, 2023 01:29 PM (FVME7)

the only times hands are tied is when Joe's playing sex games with pets and children...and it ain't Joe's hands that are tied.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 27, 2023 01:32 PM (ynpvh)

287 CBD: I would prefer to hear some substantive debate about the various serious candidates. And there are a few! Trump, DeSantis, Ramaswamy, and even Burgum and Suarez.. Instead we get Donald Trump's arraignment circus dominating the news cycle, and a bunch of grifting clowns and beached whales sniping at Trump and the other serious candidates.

********

In today's Book Thread Sgt. Mom drew a contrast between the Donnner Party and the Townsend Murphy Greenwood Party of 1844.

"They did everything right - and hardly anyone has ever heard of them - while the Donner Party did everything wrong and everyone knows about them."

You could make a case that there are serious candidates trying to do the right thing who most voters will never hear of, while the salacious tales of non-serious candidates devouring each other dominate the news cycle. Nice parallel Sgt. Mom and CBD!

Posted by: Muldoon at August 27, 2023 01:32 PM (991eG)

288 ...And Chris Christie could have single-handedly devoured the entire company.

Posted by: Muldoon at August 27, 2023 01:32 PM (991eG)

289 284 I also want a pony

With all the GOPe horseshit there's bound to be one in there somewhere.

Posted by: Just the punchline at August 27, 2023 01:31 PM (FhXTo)

You may have confused hoboshit for horseshit...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 27, 2023 01:33 PM (ynpvh)

290 But we have this idea that because he has brown skin, it's going to open all these doors for us. It never works.
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I didn't understand the term "intersectionality", until I saw Prager's short prageru clip about the implications. Anyway, the formula only works in one hemispjere of space.
The left one.
They love to play intersectionality bingo: black, trans, ghey, whoever fills the most squares, moves up in the pecking order.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at August 27, 2023 01:33 PM (7Fj9P)

291 meatball's debate move when asked if he would support Trump if he was convicted was a for the ages weasel response

good thing it wasn't on tape

Posted by: REDACTED at August 27, 2023 01:33 PM (us2H3)

292 One really has to be into the incestuous relationships that make up the political class to want to be one of them. The amount of cross contamination between politicos, justice, media and corporate sectors is astounding.

This is also a real problem for so-called "outsiders" to overcome.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 27, 2023 01:34 PM (Q4IgG)

293 "If Vivek were some young white guy, most would be aghast at how obnoxious and what a fraud he is. But we have this idea that because he has brown skin, it's going to open all these doors for us. It never works."

I guess you haven't been in the business world in that last decade or so.

Posted by: pawn at August 27, 2023 01:34 PM (wsHtO)

294 Friday I think was a good article on election fraud at American Thinker but about 2022 in NY though sure same fraud apply on 2020

Posted by: Skip at August 27, 2023 01:34 PM (MOY79)

295 >> If anything, I think conservatives have a reverse racism problem. Sort of like how did Herschel Walker become a Senate candidate when he was so obviously mentally impaired?

Posted by: Blago at August 27, 2023 01:28 PM (cOFom)

You’re attacking Herschel Walker?? Any discussion of mentally impaired candidates would have to start with Fetterman and Biden himself….. Walker isn’t anywhere near those two on the retard scale and would’ve been infinitely better than the Rev Warnock. I listened to Walker talk and he’s not stupid…. He’s just not a silky smooth pol

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at August 27, 2023 01:35 PM (xT8gx)

296 294 Friday I think was a good article on election fraud at American Thinker but about 2022 in NY though sure same fraud apply on 2020

Posted by: Skip at August 27, 2023 01:34 PM (MOY79)

Best to assume all elections are fraudulent. Now, how do you fix it?
Dems: mail-in votes, ballot harvesters/mules, motor-voter, and, whatever you do, DON'T clean the voter rolls.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 27, 2023 01:35 PM (ynpvh)

297 If Vivek were some young white guy, most would be aghast at how obnoxious and what a fraud he is. But we have this idea that because he has brown skin, it's going to open all these doors for us. It never works.
Posted by: Blago at August 27, 2023 01:28 PM (cOFom)

No, if he were a white guy, saying the exact same things he's saying, most people here would be fine with him. I doubt anybody would be objecting to him running for president, even though he's probably better suited for a congressional run.

So what I wonder is, why are people so hung up on declaring him a phony? There's no real evidence he is, but it sure as hell is being manufactured. I'm not accusing anyone, but I'd be MORE inclined to believe people won't support him because he's NOT white, than I would impugn anyone who IS supporting him in part due to his skin color.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 27, 2023 01:35 PM (sUWZU)

298 If Vivek were some young white guy, most would be aghast at how obnoxious and what a fraud he is. But we have this idea that because he has brown skin, it's going to open all these doors for us. It never works.

Posted by: Blago at August 27, 2023 01:28 PM (cOFom)

Same with any R gay. They either turn, like Andrew Sullivan, or they get ignored and not supported by their co-sexualists.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at August 27, 2023 01:36 PM (Angsy)

299 285
'Is it just me or are a lot of chickens coming home to roost?'

That's MY sentence! You aren't allowed to say my sentence, whitey!

Posted by: Rev. Jeremaiah Wright at August 27, 2023 01:36 PM (+CIlU)

300 >>> 295 >> If anything, I think conservatives have a reverse racism problem. Sort of like how did Herschel Walker become a Senate candidate when he was so obviously mentally impaired?

Posted by: Blago at August 27, 2023 01:28 PM (cOFom)

You’re attacking Herschel Walker?? Any discussion of mentally impaired candidates would have to start with Fetterman and Biden himself….. Walker isn’t anywhere near those two on the retard scale and would’ve been infinitely better than the Rev Warnock. I listened to Walker talk and he’s not stupid…. He’s just not a silky smooth pol
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at August 27, 2023 01:35 PM (xT8gx)

The results from 2022 speak for themselves. Walker clearly was not a Quality, Electable Candidate.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 27, 2023 01:36 PM (llON8)

301 > White House Tells New York They Can't Help With Migrant Crisis Without Congressional Approval
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Translation: "It's the GOP's fault."

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 27, 2023 01:36 PM (Q4IgG)

302 I will never vote for, nor will I ever support, Vivek Ramaswamy. He comes off as arrogant and disingenuous, and he has no political experience to speak of. Sure, neither did Trump, and Trump was a great President but Trump spent to much time saying "Somebody ought to look into that" when he was President and had the ability to "look into that" himself.

Then there's this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcihweIYgiE

That is to say, get bent Ramaswamy and if Trump picks you to be his VP I'll vote for the Libertarians and let it burn.

Posted by: Naqamel at August 27, 2023 01:36 PM (St6iO)

303 If Vivek were some young white guy, most would be aghast at how obnoxious and what a fraud he is. But we have this idea that because he has brown skin, it's going to open all these doors for us. It never works.
Posted by: Blago at August 27, 2023 01:28 PM (cOFom)
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Who is this "we"? I don't have that idea. I don't think most conservatives have that idea.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 27, 2023 01:37 PM (RIvkX)

304 So what I wonder is, why are people so hung up on declaring him a phony?

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I'm not declaring that. He did, when he said "I am running as a Republican."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 27, 2023 01:37 PM (0FoWg)

305 300
The results from 2022 speak for themselves. Walker clearly was not a Quality, Electable Candidate.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 27, 2023 01:36 PM (llON

Of course election fraud wasn't to be found in Georgia in 2020 or 2022...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 27, 2023 01:37 PM (ynpvh)

306 She, more than anyone else besides Trump himself was responsible for the loss in 2020 and 2022.

That he didn't vigorously campaign for Dhillon is an indictment of Trump's ability to judge people.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 27, 2023 01:31 PM (lQONO)

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Awwww.

I see. So when you guys say he endorsed her in “the election” you meant the 2017 and 2020 elections and not the most recent.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at August 27, 2023 01:38 PM (8XuxQ)

307 304 So what I wonder is, why are people so hung up on declaring him a phony?

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I'm not declaring that. He did, when he said "I am running as a Republican."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 27, 2023 01:37 PM (0FoWg)

As an independent is changes are even less.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 27, 2023 01:38 PM (ynpvh)

308 One of the greatest things was drinking your way down South Avenue to Boardman.
Posted by: bill in arkansas

We probably walked right by each other more than a few times. I was the drunk, dark haired Italian looking dude.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 27, 2023 01:38 PM (EJWxb)

309 As an independent his chances are even less.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 27, 2023 01:39 PM (ynpvh)

310 One of books I have went through a whole explanation of Intersectionaly, it's quite a convoluted theory, but the Leftists need to fill their ranks to gain power.

Posted by: Skip at August 27, 2023 01:39 PM (MOY79)

311 Doug Burgum is the dark horse.

Posted by: My word as a Burgum at August 27, 2023 01:40 PM (NBVIP)

312 LA Mayor Blames Crime on "Things Just Happening" Instead of Lack of Consequences for Crime

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Dude, the expression is "shit happens." Do better.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
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I thought the current vogue is, 'Some people did some things'

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 27, 2023 01:40 PM (dNyeU)

313 I'm in Israel. My problem with Ramaswamy is NOT Israel. It's this:

Today's deep question: Should we care about Ramaswamy's 'Soros scholarship'?

https://tinyurl.com/5cmc9zbz

(Hot Air)

He's been groomed by someone. He's a fake.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at August 27, 2023 01:40 PM (adINt)

314 The results from 2022 speak for themselves. Walker clearly was not a Quality, Electable Candidate.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 27, 2023 01:36 PM (llON

I think I recognize the sarcasm :-)

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at August 27, 2023 01:40 PM (xT8gx)

315 yeah, Vivek may be bit shady

but I'd take him over 30 of the sitting GOP senators atm

they are the problem, starting with Glitch

most of them are cloaked dims

Posted by: REDACTED at August 27, 2023 01:41 PM (us2H3)

316 In San Francisco the pat defense used by our Genius mayor is, "it was an isolated incident."

Yeah, ten times a day.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 27, 2023 01:42 PM (RIvkX)

317 Another Trump fan unimpressed by the indictments:

https://tinyurl.com/4a4abxmk

also goes to TikkTok, salty language warning

Posted by: kallisto at August 27, 2023 01:42 PM (6Mdw7)

318 314 The results from 2022 speak for themselves. Walker clearly was not a Quality, Electable Candidate.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 27, 2023 01:36 PM (llON

so we get cookies

yeah

Posted by: Fetterman at August 27, 2023 01:42 PM (us2H3)

319 One of books I have went through a whole explanation of Intersectionaly, it's quite a convoluted theory, but the Leftists need to fill their ranks to gain power.
Posted by: Skip

It's intended to be impenetrable and therefore to justify anything.

P.S. Black supremacist mows down 62 people, trans-shooter kills 6 Christians (3 kids), BUUUUUUT evil white guy

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 27, 2023 01:42 PM (FVME7)

320 294 Friday I think was a good article on election fraud at American Thinker but about 2022 in NY though sure same fraud apply on 2020

Posted by: Skip at August 27, 2023 01:34 PM (MOY79)

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Maybe Swami can answer why he should believe “top election officials” in NY State when some private group PROVED over 750,000 fraudulent voters in that state.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at August 27, 2023 01:42 PM (8XuxQ)

321 The strategy has always been to run to the extreme in the primary, run to the middle in the general. Ramaswamy gets this, the others do not. That is why he is gaining.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 27, 2023 01:43 PM (u73oe)

322 Of course election fraud wasn't to be found in Georgia in 2020 or 2022...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 27, 2023 01:37 PM (ynpvh)

Nope, not even a smidge.

But Brian Kemp sure did great, didn't he?

Posted by: BurtTC at August 27, 2023 01:44 PM (N5ek4)

323 Rapper explains why Trump indictments will backfire:

https://tinyurl.com/43hxza69

TikTok

Posted by: kallisto at August 27, 2023 01:44 PM (6Mdw7)

324 Is he going to get the nomination? No.

Posted by: pookysgirl wants to be on the V for Victory Squad at August 27, 2023 01:45 PM (dtlDP)

325 Of course election fraud wasn't to be found in Georgia in 2020 or 2022...

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Trump went after Kemp in the primary. Kemp won. Slaughtered the other guy. And while Trump's guy Herschel lost, Kemp won with the same electorate. That some serious ticket delineation. In 2022 Trump attacked DeSantis during his reelection bid : "I will tell you things about him that won’t be very flattering. I know more about him than anybody other than perhaps his wife, who is really running his campaign.” DeSantis won by the largest margin evah. There is a lesson in there. Hope smart people are looking into that.

Posted by: runner at August 27, 2023 01:45 PM (V13WU)

326 San Francisco Mayor Suddenly Realizes Massive Homeless Encampments Are a Problem

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Is it just me or are a lot of chickens coming home to roost?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
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Occasionally, virtue-signaling (Sanctuary City!) has real consequences for the signaler...but only occasionally.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 27, 2023 01:45 PM (dNyeU)

327 just spitballing

but I'm not so sure the dims want to win the net Presidential election

the debt bomb may come a bit early and blaming Trump with it would be delicious

one day, someone will be blamed but the real culprits will be partying with the Z man in the Caymans

Posted by: REDACTED at August 27, 2023 01:46 PM (us2H3)

328 Doug Burgum is the dark horse.
Posted by: My word as a Burgum at August 27, 2023 01:40 PM (NBVIP)

No idea what you stand for, Doug, but I do like what you did with that mountain in South Dakota.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 27, 2023 01:46 PM (N5ek4)

329 Burgum sure knows a heck of a lot about energy.

Posted by: runner at August 27, 2023 01:47 PM (V13WU)

330 328 Doug Burgum is the dark horse.
Posted by: My word as a Burgum at August 27, 2023 01:40 PM (NBVIP)

could do with some brow work

Posted by: REDACTED at August 27, 2023 01:47 PM (us2H3)

331 The Trump indictments sound more like incictements

Posted by: kallisto at August 27, 2023 01:48 PM (6Mdw7)

332 Burgum likes to talk about showering

fag, dunno ??

Posted by: REDACTED at August 27, 2023 01:48 PM (us2H3)

333 325 - Runner: Keep believing Kemp is more popular than Trump. I don’t believe that for a second, but you do you….. Do you think the prez ballot count in Fulton County in 2020 was entirely on the up and up? Shutting down counting because of a clogged toilet and forcing GOP observers out, then continuing the count?? If you believe all that, I don’t know what to say….

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at August 27, 2023 01:49 PM (xT8gx)

334 I'm not declaring that. He did, when he said "I am running as a Republican."
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 27, 2023 01:37 PM (0FoWg)

I guess I'm not getting your point, what was he supposed to say?

And again, we can say this until we're brown in the face, but he's NOT GOING TO BE NOMINATED!

He just isn't. So what has he done to incur the ire of so many?

I think I know, but I wish people here would be more honest about it.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 27, 2023 01:49 PM (N5ek4)

335 Burgrum is known as Wide Stance

Posted by: REDACTED at August 27, 2023 01:49 PM (us2H3)

336 I think it is too early to write off or be excited about Ramaswamy.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at August 27, 2023 01:50 PM (+CIlU)

337 Should not have accepted the “apology”.

Posted by: Montec at August 27, 2023 01:50 PM (nQppb)

338 Joe's hands are tied!

White House Tells New York They Can't Help With Migrant Crisis Without Congressional Approval
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

You tell them Joe!
~Ukraine

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 27, 2023 01:51 PM (K+1Pw)

339 "They Indict, We Unite!"

https://tinyurl.com/54y7r8jk

Link goes to TikTok

Posted by: kallisto at August 27, 2023 01:52 PM (6Mdw7)

340 well, I think that these comments have confirmed

Haley doesn't know squat

Posted by: REDACTED at August 27, 2023 01:52 PM (us2H3)

341 If you believe all that, I don’t know what to say….
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at August 27, 2023 01:49 PM (xT8gx)

I think the one thing we know is Georgia elections are not free and fair. They're fixed. And Kemp has demonstrated quite clearly, he's capable of fixing his, just as well as he allows the Dems to fix theirs.

At this point, I think it's possible Tank Abrams DID win that election in '16.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 27, 2023 01:52 PM (N5ek4)

342 well, I think that these comments have confirmed

Haley doesn't know squat

Posted by: REDACTED at August 27, 2023 01:52 PM (us2H3)

Are you saying she stands to pee?!?!

Posted by: OrangeEnt at August 27, 2023 01:53 PM (Angsy)

343 My work for today is done.

Posted by: kallisto, High Priestess of the Trump Cult at August 27, 2023 01:53 PM (6Mdw7)

344 Burgrum is known as Wide Stance
Posted by: REDACTED at August 27, 2023 01:49 PM (us2H3)

Crowder's crew was noting he has a real Christopher Lee as Dracula look about him.

So maybe he likes sucking men off, but not that way.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 27, 2023 01:54 PM (N5ek4)

345 Joe's hands are tied!

White House Tells New York They Can't Help With Migrant Crisis Without Congressional Approval
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
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Oh, no! Executive Orders are become Executive Disorders.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 27, 2023 01:54 PM (dNyeU)

346 I noticed the Quad Cities newspaper did not also apologize to the millions of Americans who were represented as racists in the cartoon.

They sure missed a big one!

Posted by: Emmie at August 27, 2023 01:55 PM (Sf2cq)

347 The Biden crime family ???
Hunter was so unsuccessful as a crack head business man that his account couldn't pay his bills and almost had his Porsche repord because he couldn't pay his 2700$ per month monthly bill.
Joe?
Zero yachts
Zero jets
Zero porn star payoffs
Rides a mountain bike for fun
As a "crime family" they sure don't look successful

Posted by: Paul at August 27, 2023 01:56 PM (A89Lf)

348 Paul, you ignorant slut.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 27, 2023 01:57 PM (u73oe)

349 "$3.3 billion this year"

I'm not anti Jewish, however, I don't care who or what it goes to, that's a lot of cheddar. Meanwhile, back at the ok corral I'm being financially bled into poverty.

Posted by: sidney at August 27, 2023 01:57 PM (hGlnS)

350 Oh, no! Executive Orders are become Executive Disorders.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 27, 2023 01:54 PM (dNyeU)

Illegal mexicans? We can pay off their student loans, but we can't deport them.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 27, 2023 01:58 PM (N5ek4)

351 The conundrum in a totalitarian state, which the United States increasingly is despite our ability to discuss issues in non-threatening fora and ways, becomes whether to participate in ways largely impotent and fraudulent or to withdraw totally. It is a tough call.

I do welcome the recent default position to believe everything and everyone in the political system is a fraud or plant, though. For those who choose to continue to participate, it means they are doing so with eyes wide open as to the likelihood they are buying into a lie and liars. Vivek may or may not be a fraud, but at least people realize it would be no shock at all if he were a phony and a plant.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at August 27, 2023 01:58 PM (KSNKu)

352 Burgmentum!

Posted by: Can you feel it? at August 27, 2023 01:58 PM (NBVIP)

353 Ramaswamy put my dog in a trance during the debate and now my dog is a vegetarian!

Posted by: Republican voters according to the press at August 27, 2023 02:00 PM (KFhLj)

354 Back to mom's basement Paul, she's waiting to peg you.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 27, 2023 02:01 PM (K+1Pw)

355 Trump will win the primary easily, presuming he is breathing, which is a good thing because you know he would be sure to tank the nominee as best he could if he didn't.

So, I am still planning on voting for DeSantis in March in Alabama, after Trump has this sewn up, to at least position Ron for 2028, and then voting for Trump in the general because Fuck You.

Also, I see that I have Navy vs ND playing in Dublin recorded. Was it a decent game?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) repeats himself at August 27, 2023 02:01 PM (aD39U)

356 NOOD FWP

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 27, 2023 02:02 PM (K+1Pw)

357 I do welcome the recent default position to believe everything and everyone in the political system is a fraud or plant, though. For those who choose to continue to participate, it means they are doing so with eyes wide open as to the likelihood they are buying into a lie and liars. Vivek may or may not be a fraud, but at least people realize it would be no shock at all if he were a phony and a plant.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at August 27, 2023 01:58 PM (KSNKu)

I view the political landscrape much the same as I did MLB before I gave up completely. My team was quite successful in the late 20th and early 21st century, but I believe this was in part due to their advanced use of steroids. In other words, they are mostly phonies.

So now that I'm no longer interested, I just assume every star was a steroid user, even though I'm sure SOME of them weren't.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 27, 2023 02:02 PM (N5ek4)

358 3.3 billion isn't even a rounding error in this government
Take a look.at what is being spent on.illegals and get back to me.
How in the fuck do you think Sulemani got taken out?

Posted by: Ben Had at August 27, 2023 02:04 PM (ovudU)

359 You could make a case that there are serious candidates trying to do the right thing who most voters will never hear of, while the salacious tales of non-serious candidates devouring each other dominate the news cycle.

Posted by: Muldoon at August 27, 2023 01:32 PM (991eG)

Excellent point.

What I really want is the entire crop of candidates talking non-stop about what they are going to do to stop the steal.

I'll take that pony now!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 27, 2023 02:06 PM (lQONO)

360 Thanks, CBD. No, I can't pull the lever, stuff the ballot box or whatever for Pence, Christie, Haley - at least not for top dog position, President.

I don't think Vivek Ramaswarmy is running for any position other than President at this time. Kathy Barnette is his National Grassroots Director. Remember? Time, May 16, 2022, "Kathy Barnette Is the Trumpiest Candidate Who Wasn't Endorsed by Trump." Yes, Kathy - who was my pick in PA - took her lumps from the GOP, and I have no doubt Vivek will (is) too. Though not of the Grand Old Party - whatever the heck that is - they have some conservative beliefs that aren't lunar-like, a lot of nerve, and I want to hear more. I've also written I would like to learn more about Burgum (and I'm doing the research), and I would certainly invite Suarez to a forum.

I'm >29 & recognize the next presidential vote - if there is a legitimate one (heh) - is the heart of the nation. We're in too deep & need the promised big tent, fair & fresh ideas. The way out - or continue - can't be pitting 'Colors' against one another & throwing money at certain groups, lousy policy, unproveable positions.

Signed: Once a fool for McCain, Schmidt & Wallace

Posted by: L - Practice makes perfect. They know their enemy. at August 27, 2023 02:07 PM (GshMh)

361 V.R. Is playing to the under 45 crowd, not the grouchy, get off my lawn, 29yo’s here at the HQ.

He’s building a real grassroots network, not a astroturfed Marxist front group. He’s not asking for your permission.

Posted by: 13times at August 27, 2023 02:08 PM (+VG65)

362 And V.R. does sometimes come off as an oily salesman’s notion of an oily salesman.

Posted by: 13times at August 27, 2023 02:12 PM (+VG65)

363 CBD, what color would you like your pony to be?

Posted by: Ben Had at August 27, 2023 02:12 PM (ovudU)

364

24 19 Are the MAGA people gushing over Vivek aware of what he wrote in his book about the 2020 election? He likened Trump's claims of election fraud to those of Stacy Abrams.

Posted by: Reggie1971 at August 27, 2023 12:12 PM (996BY)

What's the name of the book?
And don't say, "Shit Vivek Said About the 2020 Election", please.
Posted by: jim (in Kalfornia) at August 27, 2023 12:14 PM (ynpvh)

I believe the name of the book is "Nation of Victims".

The following is a link to a tweet where excerpts of the book appear:

https://tinyurl.com/4nb9p235

Posted by: Reggie1971 at August 27, 2023 02:13 PM (K8aaL)

365 CBD, what color would you like your pony to be?

That's a good question.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 27, 2023 02:14 PM (Xrfse)

366 Very few people are willing to back up their opinion of Trump winning by putting wagers on him.
That stuff about rigged elections won't help

Posted by: Paul at August 27, 2023 02:20 PM (A89Lf)

367 I think I know, but I wish people here would be more honest about it.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 27, 2023 01:49 PM (N5ek4

I speak for nobody but myself. My objection is not race based, as you imply. I hate DeSantis too. I don't hate Trump, but I won't vote for him. Republican.

My position is to attack and undermine all (R)enfield in my small way, and to hopefully one day see the (D)raculas most important defense against America get swept away.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 27, 2023 02:34 PM (0FoWg)

368 Spot on, CBD, especially the part about combating the D-vote grifting system. Unless that aspect of "our Democracy" has a stake driven through its heart in 2024, there is NO CHANCE of this Republic surviving.

Posted by: Kurtz at August 27, 2023 03:20 PM (wEYGu)

369 Very few people are willing to back up their opinion of Trump winning by putting wagers on him.
That stuff about rigged elections won't help
Posted by: Paul at August 27, 2023 02:20 PM (A89Lf)

You could bet against him, Dunce. If you had any money.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 27, 2023 03:23 PM (aD39U)

370 Vivek supports the TPP. That’s a huge red flag.

Posted by: Peter B at August 27, 2023 03:51 PM (fjMm5)

371 Typical product of the military industrial complex; complexity for the sake of complexity. If it were a safe and optimal design you would see tiltrotors in widespread commercial use.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo

Yes... We have diesel big rigs that run for a million miles, hauling tons up incredible slopes and across all sorts of climate, and our tanks use a freaking jet engine as a power plant.

Posted by: Justin Castreau at August 27, 2023 03:52 PM (V8yYW)

372 I think we should have a mechanical weekend thread. Cars, motorcycles, airplanes, cool machines. I liked that suggestion...

Posted by: Justin Castreau at August 27, 2023 03:53 PM (V8yYW)

373 I dunno what “Conservatism” is anymore. I know I get a gag reflex on that word just the same as “Liberal”.

Posted by: JackWayne at August 27, 2023 03:59 PM (gQ0bu)

374 And here is a great article on this.

https://tinyurl.com/dieselabrams

"Quiet Operation" vs huge infrared signature (which is what the jet is. You can always make something quieter with enough insulation. Heat always finds a way to get out...

Posted by: Justin Castreau at August 27, 2023 03:59 PM (V8yYW)

375 Accepting a scholarship from Soros does not involve a lifelong commitment. Famously, Viktor Orban, the prime minister of Hungary, who is extremely nationalist and in bed with Putin and Xi Jinping, had one, as his first opportunity to see the West.
Actually, I'm not sure this is an endorsement.

Posted by: PG at August 27, 2023 04:06 PM (84jHt)

376 Today's deep question: Should we care about Ramaswamy's 'Soros scholarship'?

https://tinyurl.com/5cmc9zbz

(Hot Air)

He's been groomed by someone. He's a fake.

I don't know about you, but if I was getting free money I wouldn't turn it down. Since most of us are 29+, we remember when college was cheap and not filled with giant liberal parasitical bureaucracies. Its a little more expensive now.

That said, proceed with caution. That is all!

Posted by: Justin Castreau at August 27, 2023 04:12 PM (V8yYW)

377 Well, the hotair says VR was rich and didn't need the money.

I know of no rich people who turn down free money. But I'd like to know how he got to $2million by age 25...

Posted by: Justin Castreau at August 27, 2023 04:15 PM (V8yYW)

378 it's not slushee...it's squishee

Posted by: ontoiran at August 27, 2023 04:25 PM (43Y8x)

379 Anyone who says the 2020 elections were free of fraud because "top officials" said so is either hopelessly naive, or a base liar.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 27, 2023 01:10 PM (s4bks)
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Yeah - I doubt he's that dumb, so I suggest he's a lying plant. I have spoken to far too many people who work on campaigns at the precinct level. The number of things they saw, without being on the inside in those particular swing states, and their explanation of how the game is played (I.e., how the cheat was performed) was eye-opening to me. Many acknowledge the proof is difficult to find, because no one who could easily find it wanted to. Obviously, some has trickled out, but way too late to matter. And Trump, who should know how it was done, has done nothing to prevent it happening again. Which makes me question his seriousness in doing anything about it if he were to win again. They robbed him, they are trying to put him in jail for pointing it out, while ignoring dem claims of the same type; and he's doing nothing to fix any of it. Trump embraces the GOPe squad. Funny how no one calls him on it.

Who is everyone Vivek spoke to.

Posted by: Black JEM at August 27, 2023 04:38 PM (UVyKP)

380 Try again!

Anyone who says the 2020 elections were free of fraud because "top officials" said so is either hopelessly naive, or a base liar.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 27, 2023 01:10 PM (s4bks)
==
Yeah - I doubt he's that dumb, so I suggest he's a lying plant. I have spoken to far too many people who work on campaigns at the precinct level. The number of things they saw, without being on the inside in those particular swing states, and their explanation of how the game is played (I.e., how the cheat was performed) was eye-opening to me. Many acknowledge the proof is difficult to find, because no one who could easily find it wanted to. Obviously, some has trickled out, but way too late to matter. And Trump, who should know how it was done, has done nothing to prevent it happening again. Which makes me question his seriousness in doing anything about it if he were to win again. They robbed him, they are trying to put him in jail for pointing it out, while ignoring dem claims of the same type; and he's doing nothing to fix any of it. Trump embraces the GOPe squad. Funny how no one calls him on it.

Posted by: Black JEM at August 27, 2023 04:39 PM (UVyKP)

381 Vivek is a grifter, a stalking horse, and a prime example of what Adderall abuse does to a person. Worse, we'll be seeing him on cable news interviews for years to come.

Posted by: Croak at August 27, 2023 07:13 PM (YVaDw)

382 127 What's the GOP's plan to combat the Democrat's fraud this next election? Do they have their own ballot harvesting program? Preprinted ballots? Thousands of people willing to get their hands a little bloody if things don't seem to be going their way?

*shrugs*

It's all really academic at this point.

Just you and Atles

Posted by: Roger Culpepper at August 27, 2023 07:14 PM (Dl48T)

383 Damn. leftie cartoonists don't even know what a Squishee is.

Posted by: Corndog at August 27, 2023 07:43 PM (w5TcO)

384 Vivek had a Soros Fellowship awarded to support work towards a JD in Law at Yale University

Posted by: Neo at August 27, 2023 09:34 PM (RovqD)

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