Mark Hemingway: The Progressive <i>Foreign</i> Mega-Donor Who Evades Campaign Finance Laws Prohibiting Foreigners From Donating to Political Causes

Mark Hemingway: The Progressive Foreign Mega-Donor Who Evades Campaign Finance Laws Prohibiting Foreigners From Donating to Political Causes

You'll never, ever guess which party he donates to.

The Swiss billionaire Hansjörg Wyss has a profound interest in American politics. Over the years, he has pumped $475 million he has earned manufacturing medical devices into left-wing advocacy groups -- $72 million in 2021 alone, according to a new report from the conservative watchdog group, Americans for Public Trust.

According to a biography of Wyss written by a sister, Wyss' goal is not to bend laws to his business's advantage but to "[re]interpret the American Constitution in the light of progressive politics."
Although foreigners are prohibited from donating money directly to political causes, Wyss has donated lavishly to progressive political organizations. The New York Times reported in 2021 that these include the "Center for American Progress and Priorities USA, as well as organizations that ran voter registration and mobilization campaigns to increase Democratic turnout, built media outlets accused of slanting the news to favor Democrats, and sought to block Mr. Trump's nominees, prove he colluded with Russia and push for his impeachment."
Since 2016, some $245 million of his spending on American politics has gone to Arabella Advisors, which controls a vast network of progressive nonprofits which, among other activities, has financed hundreds of smaller groups that campaign for specific issues and candidates. Arabella, which raised $1.6 billion in 2021, was dubbed by The Atlantic "The Massive Progressive Dark-Money Group You've Never Heard Of."
Critics argue that Wyss' largesse illuminates a gaping loophole in political finance that essentially allows wealthy foreigners to launder their contributions -- one that has been exploited far more robustly by Democrats than Republicans. That may help explain why the issue became more prominent on Aug. 14, when House Republicans announced an investigation "into whether entities that qualify as tax-exempt under Section 501 of the U.S. Code are abiding by the statutory and regulatory prohibitions against ... foreign sources of funding ... being funneled through such organizations to influence America's elections." As part of that probe, the House Ways and Means Committee produced an open letter detailing the problem and requesting information from the public. A significant portion of the letter discussed the political donations of a single foreigner -- Hansjörg Wyss.

Ah. I remember the Committee noting that new investigation into foreign donations, but I didn't know specifically want it was about.

This scumbag's organization says that they donate to these groups only with the stipulation that their grant money will not be used to support individual candidates or to fund get-out-the-vote efforts. Such uses of dirty foreign money are banned by US law.

In theory, at least. Once you donate to the dark money front group, the SPECTRE of leftwing funding, who knows where the money goes to?

And money is fungible. If this guy's donations are supposed to be used for purposes other than direct support of a candidate or GOTV efforts, Arabella can just use other donors' money for that, while using this guy's money for the stuff that other donors' money would have been used for.

"There's no way for us right now to even check up on, let alone stop, wealthy foreign interests, say from China or Russia, from cutting a check to an American foundation that disappears into its coffers and winds up in the hands of a political nonprofit," says Hayden Ludwig, Director of Policy Research at the Restoration of America, a right-leaning nonprofit that investigates the undisclosed donations to nonprofits commonly disparaged as "dark money." "And if it's 501I4 [the IRS tax designation for organizations that can engage in activity supporting political candidates and electoral issues] that money can absolutely be used for independent expenditures, running political ads, hammering Republicans and electing Democrats."
Arabella, along with its subsidiary organizations, declined to comment for this article.
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Arabella was founded by Eric Kessler, a former Clinton White House appointee, as well as a member of the Clinton Global Initiative, which was plagued by fundraising controversies. Under Kessler, Arabella achieved great success in wrangling wealthy liberal donors and thereby making many organizations on the left dependent on its largesse: The Arabella network spent $1.2 billion in 2020. "Altogether this is absolutely one of the largest fundraising machines I have ever come across," Robert Maguire of the left-leaning watchdog Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington told Politico in 2021. "I am really struggling to think of any other group, especially recently, that could rival it,"
The structure of Arabella Advisors is complicated and opaque by design.

In other words, they deliberately obscure where their money is ultimately directed towards. They have created over 500 front groups which pretend to be grassroots, "pop-up" organizations.

With Arabella, donors' money is extremely fungible. Because it is routed through two or three organizations before it gets spent, it is difficult to determine how donations from foreigners such as Wyss are disbursed.
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And despite the broad freedom Citizens United created for political spending, serious questions about the legality of these arrangements remain. Two years ago, Americans for Public Trust filed a complaint with the FEC regarding Wyss and Arabella. "Foreign nationals cannot give to Super PACs, but what we'd see a pattern where the foreign national gives to a nonprofit, that nonprofit turns around and gets the money to a Super PAC. We've been calling this the foreign influence loophole," says Sutherland. "So we filed an FEC complaint that basically argued just that, that the money flow needs to be investigated by the FEC."

Read the whole thing. Democrats are literally selling this country to foreign billionaires. And they had the chutzpah to accuse Trump of "colluding with Russia!"

Hemingway notes that Barack Obama deliberately turned off the credit card verification system when soliciting donations online in 2008 and 2012. Without the three-digit credit card code, the system could not tell which donations were being made from accounts inside the US and which were being made from foreign accounts.

Of course that was deliberate. It is completely routine and customary to ask for this code, the CVV, in every online transaction. As was reported at the time, the software Obama was using for campaign donation solicitations asked for the CVV by default. Obama made the active, deliberate choice to turn off this normal verification precisely so he could take illegal donations from his foreign friends and handlers with plausible deniability.

You know all that.

What you probably don't know is that the biggest Democrat online fundraising group, ACT BLUE, still has credit-card verification turned off on its software, to this very day.

That's in the article too.

Posted by: Ace at 03:50 PM

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1 And a one and a two

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at August 28, 2023 03:50 PM (qPw5n)

2 What, everyone reading the content?

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at August 28, 2023 03:52 PM (qPw5n)

3 *goes off to look up what "prohibility" means*

Posted by: Jordan61 at August 28, 2023 03:52 PM (DRSnL)

4 Didn't Bill Clinton start not using the verification code so he could take money from China?

Posted by: huerfano at August 28, 2023 03:52 PM (7zEAH)

5 prohibility? I like it, I like it!

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 28, 2023 03:53 PM (i9ffA)

6 can we get some proof-reading on that headline

Posted by: DB - E Pluribus Funk at August 28, 2023 03:53 PM (geLO8)

7 checkin' in

Posted by: DanMan at August 28, 2023 03:53 PM (SPSUr)

8 It's too broken to be fixed,
there's not much you can do,
but wait around for the total collapse,
ensure that you and your loved ones survive it,
and start over again.

Posted by: Mister Ghost at August 28, 2023 03:54 PM (TGPs7)

9 It's ops, corruption, ineptitude, and treasonous malfeasance all the way down.

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 28, 2023 03:54 PM (4I/2K)

10 naturally, the dems are against YOUR fraud, their donations are always clean and honest, just ask them...

Posted by: SturmToddler at August 28, 2023 03:55 PM (KZaqS)

11 Rules for the but not for me. You are unethical but I am as pure as the driven snow.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at August 28, 2023 03:55 PM (3JfbU)

12 Of course foreign money floods our so-called elections. We do it to other countries too. I'm sure it has always been so.

Posted by: DB - E Pluribus Funk at August 28, 2023 03:55 PM (geLO8)

13 I'm pro-hillbilly!

Posted by: Lil' Abner at August 28, 2023 03:55 PM (4I/2K)

14 I'm calling the grammar nazis on that headline.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 28, 2023 03:56 PM (RIvkX)

15 All money that the left spends ultimately comes from US taxpayers.

In this case some of it is our government paying off foreign oligarchs and then those oligarchs injecting it back into our election system.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 28, 2023 03:56 PM (lc5cP)

16 Probibilence

Posted by: DB - E Pluribus Funk at August 28, 2023 03:56 PM (geLO8)

17 Prohibility - Prohibit + Ability? So like a chastity belt?

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at August 28, 2023 03:56 PM (qPw5n)

18 Let's do that again:

Rules for thee but not for me.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at August 28, 2023 03:56 PM (3JfbU)

19 Acebonics

Posted by: Mark1971 at August 28, 2023 03:56 PM (xPl2J)

20
Major hurricane set to hit Florida. Let's compare media coverage of that and Maui.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 28, 2023 03:57 PM (MoZTd)

21 You'll never, ever guess which party he donates to.
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*raises hand*

I've probably got an idea.

Posted by: Axeman at August 28, 2023 03:57 PM (krQz2)

22 wasn't it reported that act blue was taking thousands of small donations from older people who it was discovered had made one or two actual donations?

dem party is a criminal organization

Posted by: gnats local 678 at August 28, 2023 03:57 PM (B1FKF)

23 19 Acebonics

Posted by: Mark1971 at August 28, 2023 03:56 PM (xPl2J)

Someone tell Lamont the shelf fell down again!

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at August 28, 2023 03:57 PM (qPw5n)

24 Remember when the Kerry campaign openly colluded with the British newspaper The Guardian to influenced the 2004 election?

And nope, not a single R office holder did anything about it.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 28, 2023 03:58 PM (lc5cP)

25 Acebonics
Posted by: Mark1971 at August 28, 2023 03:56 PM (xPl2J)

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LOL

Posted by: Jordan61 at August 28, 2023 03:58 PM (DRSnL)

26 foreign interference in our elections is only reported if it benefits someone like trump.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at August 28, 2023 03:59 PM (B1FKF)

27 nonsensical headline aside -- yeah. It's a problem.

What is the solution?

Because no matter how hard we pass laws banning this kind of stuff, there will always be ways around it. I can think of several off the top of my head.

For example, Evil McForeignbillionaire sets up a family trust in New York. It owns some of his US real estate holdings, and maybe even owns part of his US subsidiary of his international company.

It employees US citizens. That family trust can legally give money to non profits. In fact, our tax code encourages rich people to donate to non profits. If that non profit turns around and donates to a super pac -- that's not illegal.

So what do we do?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 28, 2023 03:59 PM (mj0Qp)

28 Campaign Fianance Laws Prohibility Foreigners
________

How very Biden of you, Ace.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 28, 2023 03:59 PM (lf83v)

29 This is not really surprising.

Remember in 2004 when the Dems apologized to the world for not preventing a GWB second term?

And then for months there was a lot of flurry around maybe citizens of the world should have more say in our elections!

So, it wouldn't surprise me that international cache and the FEC and the courts looking the other way has been their chosen method of doing this.

Posted by: Axeman at August 28, 2023 03:59 PM (krQz2)

30 He's a total wyss

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at August 28, 2023 03:59 PM (xcxpd)

31 Yes I am Pro-hibility. For today only we have a 100x match to defeat our anti-hibility opponents in the DNC.

Posted by: Mitch McConnell is Pro-Hibility at August 28, 2023 03:59 PM (cCxiu)

32 wasn't it reported that act blue was taking thousands of small donations from older people who it was discovered had made one or two actual donations?

IIRC we have video of middle class people visibly shocked when told the amounts of money they donated to leftwing candidates.

But...no investigation by anyone with police powers who could, for example, determine if the money did actually come from the supposed donator.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 28, 2023 03:59 PM (lc5cP)

33 Being caught doing it won't change anything. We knew Obama did it yet nothing changed because there were no consequences. They are in control of the law and that's why they are above it while we are not.

We are not free people, we are subjects and that why we are subject to their laws and they are not.

The "they" in this case are the Democrats. The silent coup had happened, we are just slowly finding out.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at August 28, 2023 04:00 PM (3JfbU)

34 Campaign Fianance Laws Prohibility Foreigners
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How very Biden of you, Ace.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 28, 2023 03:59 PM (lf83v)
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It's a travedy.

Posted by: Axeman at August 28, 2023 04:00 PM (krQz2)

35 Prohibility?

I'm as pro hillbilly as anyone on this board

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at August 28, 2023 04:00 PM (flINI)

36 there was a time when I thought I might pursue work in campaign finance, and I looked into it pretty deeply. (this was back when GWB was Pres) What I found was disgusting - when you dig into the campaign finance laws and requirements, you find quite clearly that *every* law is written to make it extremely easy to funnel as much money as possible to any candidate, provided you jump through all the regulatory hoops that the consulting/lawyer class is paid to navigate.

Key point - *none* of those laws have anything to do with limiting contributions from any source; they exist to provide a healthy recurring salary to the tens of thousands in the consulting class who grease the wheels and make the machine keeps churning cash.

There is *one* secondary benefit; if anyone is dumb enough to try and navigate the system without hiring the approved members of the consulting class (like Dinesh D'souza) then he will quickly be charged with any of the hundreds of minor technical regs that exist only to block amateurs from using the system honestly.

Every Republican and every Democrat officeholder knows this and is completely on board with this.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 28, 2023 04:00 PM (i9ffA)

37
Willowed

What is Poland's Jewish population as of today?
Posted by: runner at August 28, 2023 03:57 PM (idBr5)

___________

What is Europe's? In 1933 there were 9.5 million Jews living in Europe. In 2020, this number had fallen to an estimated 1.3 million.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 28, 2023 04:01 PM (MoZTd)

38 UNC shooter potentially identified.

https://is.gd/5ypgdJ

Posted by: bonhomme at August 28, 2023 04:01 PM (R38qh)

39 >It's a travedy.

Posted by: Axeman

hello
the word is tragesty
geez

Posted by: DB - E Pluribus Funk at August 28, 2023 04:01 PM (geLO8)

40 Three things I want to see before I expire:

1) The Tranny Shooter's Manifesto
2) Epstein's Customer List
3) Bob Kraft's Happy Ending Videos

A Man Can Dream.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 28, 2023 04:01 PM (iw4IE)

41
So what do we do?

If it wasn't so profitable to bribe government office holders the problem would be much smaller.

But, for a few million to Biden or Schumer you can get whatever legislation you want that might bankrupt your business competitors, start a war you can profit from, or imprison people you don't like.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 28, 2023 04:02 PM (lc5cP)

42 So, what law enforcement body is going to go after Act Blue? Or Arbellla?

There isn't one, is there?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at August 28, 2023 04:02 PM (xcxpd)

43 Campaign Fianance Laws Prohibility Foreigners
________

How very Biden of you, Ace.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 28, 2023 03:59 PM (lf83v)
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It's a travedy.
Posted by: Axeman at August 28, 2023 04:00 PM (krQz2)

Chuy needs more covfefe.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, A.A.S. Drafting Technology at August 28, 2023 04:02 PM (xPJvm)

44 According to a biography of Wyss written by a sister, Wyss' goal is not to bend laws to his business's advantage but to "[re]interpret the American Constitution in the light of progressive politics."
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So a true revolutionary.

Is it bad that I now long for the days of self-dealing industrialists abusing their positions to achieve an advantageous business climate?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 28, 2023 04:02 PM (t0OGg)

45 I have to enter a zip code when I'm putting gas in the car.

Asking for credit card verification on political donations is rayciss.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 28, 2023 04:02 PM (llON8)

46 Being caught doing it won't change anything. We knew Obama did it yet nothing changed because there were no consequences. They are in control of the law and that's why they are above it while we are not.

We are not free people, we are subjects and that why we are subject to their laws and they are not.

The "they" in this case are the Democrats. The silent coup had happened, we are just slowly finding out.
Posted by: President Select Decaf at August 28, 2023 04:00 PM (3JfbU)
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Elton John performed a benefit concert to raise money for Obama's campaign, and the courts pronounced the concert NOT "a think of value".

Despite all the value of the concern went straight into Obama's coffers, thanks to a foreign national.

Posted by: Axeman at August 28, 2023 04:02 PM (krQz2)

47 Great thread, Ace. The fix has been in place for some time now but this illustrates how desperate the current situation is. How can this wave of corruption ever be overcome?

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 28, 2023 04:02 PM (Xrfse)

48 If only there was an opposition party in America.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 28, 2023 04:03 PM (d2bW3)

49
Campaign Fianance Laws Prohibility Foreigners

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Day drinking, no doubt.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 28, 2023 04:03 PM (MoZTd)

50 i'd like to see biden or fetterman pronounce 'prohibility'. i can barely pronounce it and i'm momentarily sober.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at August 28, 2023 04:03 PM (B1FKF)

51 This scumbag's organization says that they donate to these groups only with the stipulation that their grant money will not be used to support individual candidates or to fund get-out-the-vote efforts. Such uses of dirty foreign money are banned by US law.

In theory, at least. Once you donate to the dark money front group, the SPECTRE of leftwing funding, who knows where the money goes to?

And money is fungible. If this guy's donations are supposed to be used for purposes other than direct support of a candidate or GOTV efforts, Arabella can just use other donors' money for that, while using this guy's money for the stuff that other donors' money would have been used for.
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Yup. All by design. Unless, of course, *every* donor explicitly stipulates what the money must - or must not - be used for. You can be sure that doesn't happen.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 28, 2023 04:03 PM (t0OGg)

52 Like it says on our sacred dollar Fat! "Pro Hibility Unum"

which is pig latin for "One bribe to Rule them All!

Posted by: Joe "Poop Deck Pappy" Biden at August 28, 2023 04:03 PM (cCxiu)

53 What is Europe's? In 1933 there were 9.5 million Jews living in Europe. In 2020, this number had fallen to an estimated 1.3 million.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 28, 2023 04:01 PM (MoZTd)

And how many are in Poland?

Posted by: runner at August 28, 2023 04:03 PM (idBr5)

54 I have to enter a zip code when I'm putting gas in the car.

My favorite is having to show ID to buy cold medicine even after my state has de facto legalized all drugs.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 28, 2023 04:03 PM (lc5cP)

55 I am a hillbilly, but I wouldn’t call myself a professional.

Posted by: db (lowercase since 2008) back from a 2 year break at August 28, 2023 04:03 PM (wu87C)

56 "There's no way for us right now to even check up on, let alone stop, wealthy foreign interests, say from China or Russia, from cutting a check to an American foundation that disappears into its coffers and winds up in the hands of a political nonprofit," says Hayden Ludwig, Director of Policy Research at the Restoration of America, a right-leaning nonprofit that investigates the undisclosed donations to nonprofits commonly disparaged as "dark money.
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Just the way they like it!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 28, 2023 04:04 PM (t0OGg)

57 Signs and symptoms of stroke include:

Trouble speaking and understanding what others are saying. You may experience confusion, slur words or have difficulty understanding speech.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 28, 2023 04:04 PM (lf83v)

58 Prohibility
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Don't ever change, Ace.

Posted by: screaming in digital at August 28, 2023 04:04 PM (aBJcM)

59 Prohibition lost to the Con-hibition faction.

Posted by: Axeman at August 28, 2023 04:04 PM (krQz2)

60 Wyss and Soros are the type of person the likes of Marx and Engels railed against. I thought.

Hello Communists and Socialists, you just sold your metaphorical souls for thirty pieces of silver.

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 28, 2023 04:04 PM (Dbn8T)

61 How many get paid to vote or collect votes?

Posted by: torabora at August 28, 2023 04:04 PM (FfJu/)

62 didn't it come out in the clinton era that people who earned next to nothing making egg rolls in kitchens in nyc chinatown were generously donating to the dems?

Posted by: gnats local 678 at August 28, 2023 04:04 PM (B1FKF)

63 And money is fungible. If this guy's donations are supposed to be used for purposes other than direct support of a candidate or GOTV efforts, Arabella can just use other donors' money for that, while using this guy's money for the stuff that other donors' money would have been used for.

Why United Way doesn't even get a dollar from me.

Posted by: Catherine at August 28, 2023 04:04 PM (ZSsrh)

64 Remember when the Kerry campaign openly colluded with the British newspaper The Guardian to influenced the 2004 election?

And nope, not a single R office holder did anything about it.
Posted by: 18-1 at August 28, 2023 03:58 PM (lc5cP)

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That's because most Rs in office are really just undercover Dems. By my calculation there may be about 10% actual Republicans in Congress.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at August 28, 2023 04:05 PM (3JfbU)

65 "Prohibility?"

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 28, 2023 04:05 PM (xTRSc)

66 It employees US citizens. That family trust can legally give money to non profits. In fact, our tax code encourages rich people to donate to non profits. If that non profit turns around and donates to a super pac -- that's not illegal.

So what do we do?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 28, 2023 03:59 PM (mj0Qp)

I have thought about this - and money will always find it s way to politicians. The only "solution" I can come up with is to drop all campaign finance laws of all kinds - make it a free for all - with the requirement that *every* donation from every source be public. All candidates must be requrired to put *all* of their books online in full public view in real time. No aliases, nothing hidden.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 28, 2023 04:05 PM (i9ffA)

67 I'm a pro-hillbilly.

Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at August 28, 2023 04:05 PM (GD2xa)

68 With Arabella, donors' money is extremely fungible. Because it is routed through two or three organizations before it gets spent, it is difficult to determine how donations from foreigners such as Wyss are disbursed.
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So Arabella and others like it are shell "charities" with other shell "charities" in the corporate family, and they punt money back and forth so as to muddy (or obliterate) the paper trail and disconnect the final spending from the initial funding.

Exactly like a criminal organization. It's too bad that the RICO resources are all tied up with Trump. Oh well. We'll get 'em next time...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 28, 2023 04:05 PM (t0OGg)

69
wtf is with these fvcking Europeans and their hatred of America? Are they still all poopy-pantsed because America had to save them from their own asses twice in the 20th century? I hope the next Republican president gets us out of the UN -- and NATO. Remind me what that organization is for?

And fvck Germany. First they welcome bazillions of Muslims to destroy their culture, now they're heading back to the Dark Ages to "save the climate." A German friend tells me they really REALLY want a strong America because they're terrified that Russia will invade them again. Fine. Let them arm up again and defend their own fvcking selves. Is that over the top? I'm fed up with these continentals.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 28, 2023 04:05 PM (lCaJd)

70 They are not laundering millions. They are laundering billions. Across all races. And for every vote-gathering activity.

Every Senate candidate for the Dems starts with $50 million now.
Every House in a competitive district starts with $5 -$10 million.

There isn't a race they don't have a 2:1 advantage in money now.

But please, do go on about how we just need better candidates, ones who refrain from vulgarity, infidelity or have any stain of transgressions whatsoever.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 28, 2023 04:05 PM (Aj9wt)

71 I guess that's what happens when you have Lamont the Big Dummy write your copy for you.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 28, 2023 04:06 PM (xTRSc)

72 Read the whole thing. Democrats are literally selling this country to foreign billionaires. And they had the chutzpah to accuse Trump of "colluding with Russia!"

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They also constantly complain about Republican "dark money".

It's time to dissolve the Federal Government and round up the top 10,000 elite, and any voter with a Dem registration should be stripped of voting privileges.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at August 28, 2023 04:06 PM (FETwG)

73 48 If only there was an opposition party in America.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 28, 2023 04:03 PM (d2bW3)

There is. It's opposed to us.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at August 28, 2023 04:07 PM (xcxpd)

74
Federal Election Commission

What would ya say, ya DO here?

Posted by: DB - E Pluribus Funk at August 28, 2023 04:07 PM (geLO8)

75 The Swiss billionaire Hansjörg Wyss

Why does this name sound familiar, was he one of the "VIPs" at that freaky-ass opening ceremony for some tunnel in Switzerland?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 28, 2023 04:07 PM (llON8)

76 This on top of the billions in federal dollars that get piped into leftwing organizations.

And all the wealthy contributors that fund the Dems.

The R candidate will be outspent 3-1 next year.

Posted by: I've got bad news for you at August 28, 2023 04:07 PM (/nPvs)

77 But please, do go on about how we just need better candidates, ones who refrain from vulgarity, infidelity or have any stain of transgressions whatsoever.

My favorite recent example Dr Oz losing to a thug with brain damage that can't speak more then a few words at a time.

And that's how you know just how corrupt Philly is.

Yes yes, Dr Oz was a "terrible candidate" in many ways. But he actually knows when a Senator does and could tell you if you asked him.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 28, 2023 04:07 PM (lc5cP)

78 Prohibility
*Cackles*

*Hic*

Posted by: Hillary at August 28, 2023 04:07 PM (FfJu/)

79 Wyss?

That's a jooo name, init?

Posted by: Obligatory Blues Brothers Reference at August 28, 2023 04:07 PM (hqSyT)

80 RedState.com is in overdrive today in their personal war against President Trump. Their newest hatchet man, one Matt Dempsey, has a story posted where he claims a "new poll" shows that 62% of Americans think President Trump is guilty of committing a crime and states it's a problem.

Strangely there is no mention of who conducted the poll in Mr. Dempsey's write-up but a link to Mediaite.com, where the name NAVIGATOR is given as the poll conductor. The link from Mediaite to navigatorresearch.org answers perfectly why said results show what they show. The very first thing you see at navigatorresearch.org is their Mission Statement that reads:
"Navigator is a trusted resource for developing and distributing winning progressive messages and polling on the most pressing issues of the moment.

Our rapid response surveys and vast data ecosystem allow us to share real-time perspectives on rapidly evolving topics, while also maintaining long-term tracking on the nation’s top issues."
So RedState.com is using a "progressive messaging" group as a source for reliable polling. That says all you need to know about RedState.com's commitment to HONEST reporting when it comes to DJT.
BUSTED!!!

Posted by: Tracy at August 28, 2023 04:08 PM (mOyIJ)

81 The Swiss billionaire Hansjörg Wyss
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Wuss, huh?

Posted by: Axeman at August 28, 2023 04:08 PM (krQz2)

82 I think Germany would have been much better off if the Holy Roman Empire had stuck around.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 28, 2023 04:08 PM (xTRSc)

83 re 69: wall street journal today had an article that a lot of foreign elites are concerned about trump being president again. how dare he not listen to the europeans like obama did.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at August 28, 2023 04:08 PM (B1FKF)

84 I'm calling the grammar nazis on that headline.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 28, 2023 03:56 PM (RIvkX)
.......

I'm just surprised the AoS AI didn't catch that one.

Posted by: wth at August 28, 2023 04:08 PM (v0R5T)

85 I wasn't a commie rat at least.

Posted by: Hershel Walker at August 28, 2023 04:08 PM (FfJu/)

86 wtf is with these fvcking Europeans and their hatred of America? Are they still all poopy-pantsed because America had to save them from their own asses twice in the 20th century?
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Because America's success highlights their own failures. Much like a certain demographic attacking Asians here.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 28, 2023 04:09 PM (nEndu)

87 Me and my consultants have the election strategy down pat. Don't worry. Big Red Wave. Don't worry about that ballot harvesting and mail in ballots. As long as we keep the consultants paid, we keep hope alive. Hahahaha

Posted by: Rona McDaniel, Trump Appointee at August 28, 2023 04:09 PM (oVZ+Q)

88 {73} There is [ an opposition party ]. It's opposed to us.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at August 28, 2023 04:07 PM (xcxpd)

This man gets it.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at August 28, 2023 04:09 PM (qPw5n)

89 What you probably don't know is that the biggest Democrat online fundraising group, ACT BLUE, still has credit-card verification turned off on its software, to this very day.
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I didn't know that. It also doesn't surprise me in the least.

ActBlue was also the subject of the O'Keefe investigation wherein he found lots and lots of small transactions that totaled a lot of money - money that the "donors" have no recollection of providing - that got distributed out. That was an extremely compelling finding, and it reeked of obvious money laundering - either to overcome campaign finance limits or to bring in foreign funds, or both.

The silence from the government - and the GOP - about that expose was deafening. I am sure WinRed does this, too. It's likely that various other places also do it. Nobody wants to upset the obvious money laundry.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 28, 2023 04:09 PM (t0OGg)

90 Who names their kid Hansjörg?

Posted by: wth at August 28, 2023 04:09 PM (v0R5T)

91 Because it is routed through two or three organizations before it gets spent, it is difficult to determine how donations from foreigners such as Wyss are disbursed.

*******

Man, somebody should tell Joe Biden about that technique!

Posted by: Impudent Warwick at August 28, 2023 04:09 PM (f/6Wb)

92 Who names their kid Hansjörg?
Posted by: wth at August 28, 2023 04:09 PM (v0R5T)
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Eurofags.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 28, 2023 04:09 PM (t0OGg)

93 Elon Musk (Parody) @ElonMuskAOC Aug 27
Does anyone know what this means?

Asking for a friend.

https://tinyurl.com/mr29f2r3
8 seconds. Joe knows what a woman is.

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at August 28, 2023 04:09 PM (krqg6)

94 66 It employees US citizens. That family trust can legally give money to non profits. In fact, our tax code encourages rich people to donate to non profits. If that non profit turns around and donates to a super pac -- that's not illegal.

So what do we do?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 28, 2023 03:59 PM (mj0Qp)

I have thought about this - and money will always find it s way to politicians. The only "solution" I can come up with is to drop all campaign finance laws of all kinds - make it a free for all - with the requirement that *every* donation from every source be public. All candidates must be requrired to put *all* of their books online in full public view in real time. No aliases, nothing hidden.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 28, 2023 04:05 PM (i9ffA)

Tom, you probably call it a "solution" because that open list would be used by the Left to find, name and shame people on the Right who make donations. Nothing will be done to people on the Left. Proof? We know about Obama, Soros and Wyss, and nothing has been done about them yet.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 28, 2023 04:09 PM (/iWhV)

95 Other than "funding politicians " there is no public policy basis for political nonprofits.

All of this shit would end tomorrow with one change to the tax code: no nonprofit status if you engage in political activity or donate your funds to those that do.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 28, 2023 04:09 PM (Aj9wt)

96 re 69: wall street journal today had an article that a lot of foreign elites are concerned about trump being president again. how dare he not listen to the europeans like obama did.
Posted by: gnats local 678 at August 28, 2023 04:08 PM (B1FKF)
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Bugger the Europeans. If there's anybody we ought to listen to, it would Japan, South Korea, and Taiwan.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 28, 2023 04:10 PM (nEndu)

97 Who is funding Bill Krystol's group?

WASHINGTON – The Republican Accountability Project, an anti-Trump Republican group, is capitalizing on former President Donald Trump’s latest criminal indictment in Georgia over his attempts to overturn his 2020 loss in the Peach State.
The group announced Sunday it is launching a six-figure ad campaign, running 60-second ads on Fox News in three swing states that will be crucial in the 2024 presidential election: Phoenix, Arizona; Milwaukee, Wisconsin and Atlanta, Georgia.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 28, 2023 04:10 PM (wsSEe)

98 62 didn't it come out in the clinton era that people who earned next to nothing making egg rolls in kitchens in nyc chinatown were generously donating to the dems?
Posted by: gnats local 678 at August 28, 2023 04:04 PM (B1FKF)

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I surveyed some of the donations to the Hillary campaign in 2016. 90% of them were maxed out at the $2,300 limit. It didn't matter what the profession was.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at August 28, 2023 04:10 PM (FETwG)

99 >>> 83 re 69: wall street journal today had an article that a lot of foreign elites are concerned about trump being president again. how dare he not listen to the europeans like obama did.
Posted by: gnats local 678 at August 28, 2023 04:08 PM (B1FKF)

If our so-called "intelligence" agencies were working in our national (Constitutional) interest, there would be a lot fewer foreign "elites" who dared fck with our internal affairs.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 28, 2023 04:10 PM (llON8)

100 There's only two things I hate in this world.

Prejudice based on nationality.

And the Swiss.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 28, 2023 04:10 PM (lf83v)

101
with the requirement that *every* donation from every source be public. All candidates must be requrired to put *all* of their books online in full public view in real time. No aliases, nothing hidden.
Posted by: Tom Servo

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Hmmmm. Totally open accounting. Something online that anyone can look at any time. Not only all deposits, but all debits. I like that.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 28, 2023 04:10 PM (lCaJd)

102 90 It's better than "Hansjob."

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 28, 2023 04:10 PM (xTRSc)

103 The Swiss billionaire Hansjörg Wyss
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Wuss, huh?
Posted by: Axeman at August 28, 2023 04:08 PM (krQz2)

Hansjob Wuss ?

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 28, 2023 04:10 PM (NtVYv)

104 All of this shit would end tomorrow with one change to the tax code: no nonprofit status if you engage in political activity or donate your funds to those that do.

And that's when you find out funding leftwing political activity is NOT political but funding rightwing activity is.

Posted by: Some government lawyer at August 28, 2023 04:11 PM (lc5cP)

105 There sure are a lot of billionaires in the world.

Posted by: Lady in Black at August 28, 2023 04:11 PM (mupln)

106 90 Who names their kid Hansjörg?

Someone with his nuts in a Wyss.

Posted by: Impudent Warwick at August 28, 2023 04:11 PM (f/6Wb)

107 WASHINGTON – The Republican Accountability Project, an anti-Trump Republican group, is capitalizing on former President Donald Trump’s latest criminal indictment in Georgia over his attempts to overturn his 2020 loss in the Peach State. ...
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 28, 2023 04:10 PM (wsSEe)
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Alleged attempt. Alleged.

Journalists can't even be bothered with the niceties anymore.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 28, 2023 04:11 PM (t0OGg)

108 remember the community outreach event attended by vp al gore where buddhist nuns who took vows of poverty make maximum donations to the dems?

Posted by: gnats local 678 at August 28, 2023 04:11 PM (B1FKF)

109 Who names their kid Hansjörg?
Posted by: wth at August 28, 2023 04:09 PM (v0R5T)
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For some obscure reason the Frogs are very big on hyphenated double-barreled given names, at least for males. Indecisive parents, perhaps?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 28, 2023 04:11 PM (nEndu)

110 Of course foreign money floods our so-called elections. We do it to other countries too. I'm sure it has always been so.

Posted by: DB - E Pluribus Funk at August 28, 2023 03:55 PM (geLO

I thought one of the reasons the Dems have a grudge against Bibi is that he pointed out that the U.S. State Dept was funding his opponent.

Posted by: pookysgirl, one of those days at August 28, 2023 04:11 PM (dtlDP)

111 Who names their kid Hansjörg?
Posted by: wth at August 28, 2023 04:09 PM (v0R5T)
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Somebody who is mad it didn't end at a Hansjörg

Posted by: Axeman at August 28, 2023 04:12 PM (krQz2)

112 According to a biography of Wyss written by a sister, Wyss' goal is not to bend laws to his business's advantage but to "[re]interpret the American Constitution in the light of progressive politics."

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What business is it of a foreigner's how the American constitution is interpreted?

Couldn't this be considered as a hostile foreign act? An act of war even?

Posted by: President Select Decaf at August 28, 2023 04:12 PM (3JfbU)

113 There sure are a lot of billionaires in the world.
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Especially from those virtuous anti-capitalist countries.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 28, 2023 04:12 PM (lf83v)

114
And how many are in Poland?
Posted by: runner at August 28, 2023 04:03 PM (idBr5)

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Approximately 20000. 90% of the pre-war population was killed in the Holocaust and most of the survivors left for Israel or the Americas.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 28, 2023 04:13 PM (3iHnr)

115 The solution is to make it painful to donate to a PAC. The more you donate, the more painful it is. Like a voltage across your nipples or something.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 28, 2023 04:13 PM (wsSEe)

116 In theory, at least. Once you donate to the dark money front group, the SPECTRE of leftwing funding, who knows where the money goes to?
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It's fucking KAOS out there!

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at August 28, 2023 04:13 PM (krqg6)

117 Wir sind keine Deutschen, sind Schweizer

Posted by: Marcus T at August 28, 2023 04:13 PM (oZhq1)

118 Another part in all this, voters that only get their information from political ads shouldn't be voting.

But this is the way all the leftwing LIVs I know "get informed"

Posted by: 18-1 at August 28, 2023 04:13 PM (lc5cP)

119 It wouldn't matter if the R's outspent the D's by 10X if the D's are going to be able to inject printed ballots sufficient to overcome their known losses after the polls close. Even days later. ERIC helps that too because they can check to see who didn't vote and vote for them.

Posted by: torabora at August 28, 2023 04:13 PM (FfJu/)

120 What business is it of a foreigner's how the American constitution is interpreted?

Couldn't this be considered as a hostile foreign act? An act of war even?
Posted by: President Select Decaf at August 28, 2023 04:12 PM (3JfbU)
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It could maybe be considered thus, if it weren't being done on the side of power.

And what's their interest? America is still - for now - the top dog globally. If you want your agenda, pursuing it here and letting our big 'ole megaphone and big stick push it further for you is probably just sound use of money.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 28, 2023 04:14 PM (t0OGg)

121 According to a biography of Wyss written by a sister, Wyss' goal is not to bend laws to his business's advantage but to "[re]interpret the American Constitution in the light of progressive politics."
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We should do the same to Switzerland. They're cuckoo there.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 28, 2023 04:14 PM (nEndu)

122 RedState.com is in overdrive today in their personal war against President Trump. Their newest hatchet man, one Matt Dempsey, has a story posted where he claims a "new poll" shows that 62% of Americans think President Trump is guilty of committing a crime and states it's a problem.
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All you need to know about RedState is it was run Erick Erickson until he found a better paying grift.
When he was there, he was banning people for being too strident against Murkowski and her "write-in"
He's been GOPe from the beginning.
I'm sure he's still well-connected to the current management.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 28, 2023 04:14 PM (Aj9wt)

123 Journalists can't even be bothered with the niceties anymore.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

It isn't a journalist who wrote that. It is leftwing activist Bill Krystol.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 28, 2023 04:14 PM (wsSEe)

124 The solution is to make it painful to donate to a PAC. The more you donate, the more painful it is. Like a voltage across your nipples or something.

Ja that sounds good. I've been a very very naughty boy

I donate more US dollars. YES YES YES.

Posted by: Some German billionaire at August 28, 2023 04:14 PM (lc5cP)

125 What business is it of a foreigner's how the American constitution is interpreted?

Couldn't this be considered as a hostile foreign act? An act of war even?

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Don't worry, we have a veritable phalanx of Top Men who are sworn to preserve, protect, and defend that noble document.

Posted by: Impudent Warwick at August 28, 2023 04:14 PM (f/6Wb)

126 Like a voltage across your nipples or something.
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I'm just going to have to take your word on that, mmkay?

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 28, 2023 04:14 PM (lf83v)

127 Who names their kid Hansjörg?
Posted by: wth at August 28, 2023 04:09 PM (v0R5T)
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Eurofags.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 28, 2023 04:09 PM (t0OGg)
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Hey, that's not giving the regular fags a chance.

Posted by: Axeman at August 28, 2023 04:14 PM (krQz2)

128 Amanda Wyss> Hansjorg Wyss

Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 28, 2023 04:15 PM (YePpv)

129 "Couldn't this be considered as a hostile foreign act? An act of war even? "

Well, we could go attack him in his own country, lay siege to his house and burn it down by shooting balls of fire from a trebuchet.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 28, 2023 04:15 PM (oZhq1)

130 Couldn't this be considered as a hostile foreign act? An act of war even?

When people did this in the 50s in the name of the USSR we imprisoned/executed them.

So...yes.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 28, 2023 04:15 PM (lc5cP)

131 So Arabella and others like it are shell "charities" with other shell "charities" in the corporate family, and they punt money back and forth so as to muddy (or obliterate) the paper trail and disconnect the final spending from the initial funding.

Exactly like a criminal organization.

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So Joe Biden's corruption set up is really a copy of the actual Democrat model. No wonder they can't see anything wrong with what he is doing.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at August 28, 2023 04:16 PM (3JfbU)

132 I wasn't a commie rat at least.
Posted by: Hershel Walker

But you were insane. At least that's what I've read here.

Posted by: That guy who always says... at August 28, 2023 04:16 PM (Xrfse)

133 121 We should do the same to Switzerland. They're cuckoo there.

ISWYDT

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 28, 2023 04:16 PM (xTRSc)

134 Alleged attempt. Alleged.
Journalists can't even be bothered with the niceties anymore.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 28, 2023 04:11 PM

Used to be they would have used “alleged” when talking about a dem. But these days they just spike the story entirely.

Posted by: db (lowercase since 2008) back from a 2 year break at August 28, 2023 04:16 PM (wu87C)

135 But...no investigation by anyone with police powers who could, for example, determine if the money did actually come from the supposed donator.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 28, 2023 03:59 PM (lc5cP)

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I suspect the AG in Texas is/was planning to look into it but had to be taken out with a bogus impeachment.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at August 28, 2023 04:16 PM (FETwG)

136 It isn't a journalist who wrote that. It is leftwing activist Bill Krystol.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 28, 2023 04:14 PM (wsSEe)
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It wasn't wrapped in quotes.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 28, 2023 04:16 PM (t0OGg)

137
wtf is with these fvcking Europeans and their hatred of America? Are they still all poopy-pantsed because America had to save them from their own asses twice in the 20th century?

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It's all the same crap we've heard for 200+ years. Maybe it was on point when Europe was an energetic, thriving place but it sounds kind of hollow now that Europe is a dying backwater.

But America is such a crummy place that millions of Europeans have emigrated here.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 28, 2023 04:16 PM (3iHnr)

138 > Well, we could go attack him in his own country, lay siege to his house and burn it down by shooting balls of fire from a trebuchet.

Dude lives in Wyoming.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 28, 2023 04:16 PM (R38qh)

139 What if -hear me out- what if we weakened the federal government so that it didn't hold so much power over money, business, and people? Then it wouldn't attract billionaires to interfere in elections to get the government to boost their fortunes.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 28, 2023 04:16 PM (wsSEe)

140 "All you need to know about RedState is it was run Erick Erickson "

And he took it over from Ben Domenech who got canned for plagiarism.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 28, 2023 04:16 PM (oZhq1)

141 121 We should do the same to Switzerland. They're cuckoo there.

And that is a cheesy comment, by the way.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 28, 2023 04:17 PM (xTRSc)

142 What if -hear me out- what if we weakened the federal government so that it didn't hold so much power over money, business, and people? Then it wouldn't attract billionaires to interfere in elections to get the government to boost their fortunes.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 28, 2023 04:16 PM (wsSEe)
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I'm pretty sure you're preaching sedition.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 28, 2023 04:17 PM (t0OGg)

143 i Goggled this fucker. It's about what you'd expect and ain't worth linking.

Posted by: wth at August 28, 2023 04:17 PM (v0R5T)

144 @138 ok then balls of flaming bison shit from a trebuchet

Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 28, 2023 04:18 PM (YePpv)

145 The Walker/Warlock election was another amazing one.

Hershel is dumb because uh...because they said he was dumb.

Warlock the genius though gave us such gems as "Inflation is caused by the evil greedy shipping container monopoly"

Posted by: 18-1 at August 28, 2023 04:18 PM (lc5cP)

146 But you were insane. At least that's what I've read here.
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Wait. Is that a bad thing now?

Posted by: AOC, Bernie Sanders, Maxine Waters at August 28, 2023 04:18 PM (lf83v)

147 I'm sure the GOP turned off the CVV verification process for their online donations... right?

*Of course not, even at grifting they suck.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 28, 2023 04:18 PM (Q4IgG)

148 Barky got millions from foreigners, all forgotten

Posted by: Skip at August 28, 2023 04:18 PM (MOY79)

149 Tom, you probably call it a "solution" because that open list would be used by the Left to find, name and shame people on the Right who make donations. Nothing will be done to people on the Left. Proof? We know about Obama, Soros and Wyss, and nothing has been done about them yet.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 28, 2023 04:09 PM (/iWhV)

Well we have a hard choice - we either take away secrecy, or we allow the Oligarchs of the world to use their billions to secretly control our elections. We've got to choose, it's one or the other.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 28, 2023 04:18 PM (i9ffA)

150 And money is fungible.

if you keep it moving, mushrooms won't grow on it.

Posted by: modern monetary theorist at August 28, 2023 04:18 PM (v3pYe)

151 It wasn't wrapped in quotes.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

They just published his press release word for word.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 28, 2023 04:18 PM (wsSEe)

152 I'm at the point where we should just start working these people to telephone polls, lighting them on fire and hanging signs on them that say "knock it off". Subtle, but I think it might send a message.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 28, 2023 04:19 PM (oZhq1)

153 Well we have a hard choice - we either take away secrecy, or we allow the Oligarchs of the world to use their billions to secretly control our elections. We've got to choose, it's one or the other.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 28, 2023 04:18 PM (i9ffA)
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Full transparency, and a mandatory death sentence for anyone found enabling foreign money to flow into US politics. Not the illegal donor himself - he can walk - but the middlemen. The NGOs, the cutouts, etc.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 28, 2023 04:19 PM (t0OGg)

154 We should do the same to Switzerland. They're cuckoo there.

And that is a cheesy comment, by the way.
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Cue the Rickola commercial. . .

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 28, 2023 04:19 PM (lf83v)

155 re 114: i recall reading that before germany invaded russia in june 1941, the reds deported hundreds of thousand of jews and others from eastern poland and the baltic states. how many survived the war i couldn't say, but i did once see that it was maybe as high as 40 percent. at least the commies appreciated the value of cheap labor

Posted by: gnats local 678 at August 28, 2023 04:19 PM (B1FKF)

156 It's all the same crap we've heard for 200+ years. Maybe it was on point when Europe was an energetic, thriving place but it sounds kind of hollow now that Europe is a dying backwater.
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Let's face it: Europe is a theme park.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 28, 2023 04:19 PM (nEndu)

157 And money is fungible.

All FIRST!!s are Spongeable.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 28, 2023 04:19 PM (xTRSc)

158 And fvck Germany. First they welcome bazillions of Muslims to destroy their culture, now they're heading back to the Dark Ages to "save the climate." A German friend tells me they really REALLY want a strong America because they're terrified that Russia will invade them again. Fine. Let them arm up again and defend their own fvcking selves. Is that over the top? I'm fed up with these continentals.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 28, 2023 04:05 PM (lCaJd)

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I'm at that point regarding Germany. They will not be invaded by Russians but they will be taken over by muslims. On my last trip there in 2019 I couldn't see native Germans at any service point, at the airport, car rental, hotels, restaurants, gas stations, it was wall to wall middle easterners.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at August 28, 2023 04:19 PM (3JfbU)

159 IIRC, Erickson left RedState to run for city council or some such.

Where his brilliant political strategies and wildly popular ideas lead him to .... become a hack radio host

Anyway, he's so smart and we all ought to listen to him despite his unblemished track record of:
0 political wins on any issues
0 decisive outcomes in any race anywhere decided by the heft of his endorsement
0 politicians in office who trace their success to his advice.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 28, 2023 04:20 PM (Aj9wt)

160
I have noticed, however, that while there are many European-Americans there are very few American-Europeans.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 28, 2023 04:20 PM (MoZTd)

161 We should do the same to Switzerland. They're cuckoo there.

And that is a cheesy comment, by the way.
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It full of holes.

Posted by: Axeman at August 28, 2023 04:20 PM (krQz2)

162 90 Who names their kid Hansjörg?

a wyss supremacist, apparently

Posted by: anachronda at August 28, 2023 04:20 PM (v3pYe)

163 I suspect the AG in Texas is/was planning to look into it but had to be taken out with a bogus impeachment.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at August 28, 2023 04:16 PM (FETwG)

As I know you are well aware of, it was the Republican Party that kneecapped him. The Dems just stood on the sidelines and laughed.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 28, 2023 04:20 PM (i9ffA)

164 Approximately 20000. 90% of the pre-war population was killed in the Holocaust and most of the survivors left for Israel or the Americas.

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There is around 160,000 in Germany. Makes one wonder. Don't get me wring Hadrian, those who were deemed righteous were indeed , and probably risked their lives and lives of their families. But Poland is hardly a paragon.

Posted by: runner at August 28, 2023 04:20 PM (idBr5)

165 It is like PP saying they don't use tax money to fund abortions.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 28, 2023 04:21 PM (wsSEe)

166 Campaign fund laws are only applied to Conservatives

Posted by: Skip at August 28, 2023 04:21 PM (MOY79)

167 >>he claims a "new poll" shows that 62% of Americans think President Trump is guilty of committing a crime and states it's a problem.

Wow! how convenient is that? A poll that says a majority of Americans all over the US think exactly like some dude living in an East Coast City with a man-bun that eats at the best noodle shops and is a vegan thinks exactly like him! Yeah!

Posted by: Boswell at August 28, 2023 04:21 PM (K+UlC)

168
Let's face it: Europe is a theme park.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 28, 2023 04:19 PM (nEndu)

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An increasingly seedy theme park.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 28, 2023 04:21 PM (MoZTd)

169 by the way, david brooks in the ny times the other day endorsed haley, because she would restore honor or something

Posted by: gnats local 678 at August 28, 2023 04:21 PM (B1FKF)

170 Wir sind keine Deutschen, sind Schweizer
Posted by: Marcus T at August 28, 2023 04:13 PM (oZhq1)

sweet

Posted by: SturmToddler at August 28, 2023 04:22 PM (KZaqS)

171 I'm at that point regarding Germany. They will not be invaded by Russians but they will be taken over by muslims. On my last trip there in 2019 I couldn't see native Germans at any service point, at the airport, car rental, hotels, restaurants, gas stations, it was wall to wall middle easterners.
Posted by: President Select Decaf at August 28, 2023 04:19 PM (3JfbU)
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That's gotta be great for German teenagers looking for their first jobs.

Just like it is here.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 28, 2023 04:22 PM (t0OGg)

172 by the way, david brooks in the ny times the other day endorsed haley, because she would restore honor or something
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And he needs a date.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 28, 2023 04:22 PM (lf83v)

173 Da fuq?

@JackPosobiec 5m
Hawaiian Electric says power lines were shut off hours before wildfire, de-energized

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 28, 2023 04:23 PM (IG4Id)

174
I'm at that point regarding Germany. They will not be invaded by Russians but they will be taken over by muslims. On my last trip there in 2019 I couldn't see native Germans at any service point, at the airport, car rental, hotels, restaurants, gas stations, it was wall to wall middle easterners.
Posted by: President Select Decaf at August 28, 2023 04:19 PM (3JfbU)

We diiscussed this in one of the threads over the weekend. The funny thing is that given Germany's de-industrialization and absolutely suicidal energy policies, by the time the Muzzies take over Germany is going to be nothing but an aging theme park with a few old castles and some piles of smelly lederhosen.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 28, 2023 04:23 PM (i9ffA)

175 by the way, david brooks in the ny times the other day endorsed haley, because she would restore honor or something
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WTF is David Brooks, and WTF does anyone pay a scintilla of attention to him?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 28, 2023 04:24 PM (nEndu)

176 It isn't a journalist who wrote that. It is leftwing activist

—-

Like there’s a difference?

Posted by: Montec at August 28, 2023 04:24 PM (ZEbnh)

177 Hawaiian Electric says power lines were shut off hours before wildfire, de-energized
_________

The plot thickens.

Better get Steve McGarrett on the case.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 28, 2023 04:24 PM (lf83v)

178 WASHINGTON – The Republican Accountability Project, an anti-Trump Republican group, is capitalizing on former President Donald Trump’s latest criminal indictment in Georgia over his attempts to overturn his 2020 loss in the Peach State. ...
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 28, 2023 04:10 PM (wsSEe)
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Alleged attempt. Alleged.

Journalists can't even be bothered with the niceties anymore.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 28, 2023 04:11 PM (t0OGg)
******
Bill Kristol is one of the organizers, if that tells ya anything.

Posted by: redridinghood at August 28, 2023 04:24 PM (NpAcC)

179 Under Kessler, Arabella achieved great success in wrangling wealthy liberal donors...

Hmmmm.
So if I'm rich, and don't donate to anyone, how exactly do I get wrangled? Is it a nice call from a big name Democrat? Or in invitation to a lunch? Or a visit from Guido and Antonio?

Posted by: Diogenes at August 28, 2023 04:24 PM (hv9bm)

180 Dinesh didn't fill out paperwork correctly for $15,000 in donations and spent months in supermax with murderers and rapists.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 28, 2023 04:24 PM (wsSEe)

181
Ace,

You misspelled this word -

Fianance Laws Prohibility Foreigners.

I think you meant -

ProHillbilly.

Though why a Swiss billionaire should be ProHillbilly is a mystery.

Posted by: naturalfake at August 28, 2023 04:24 PM (QzZeQ)

182 The more I see of Haley, the more I see she's a shrill harridan. Oof. Like nails on a chalkboard.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 28, 2023 04:24 PM (oZhq1)

183 Da fuq?

@JackPosobiec 5m
Hawaiian Electric says power lines were shut off hours before wildfire, de-energized
Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 28, 2023 04:23 PM (IG4Id)
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That just leads me to one question: who drew Maui on the population reduction lottery?

Posted by: Axeman at August 28, 2023 04:24 PM (krQz2)

184
I'm at that point regarding Germany. They will not be invaded by Russians

Posted by: President Select Decaf

+++++++++++++

Darn.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 28, 2023 04:24 PM (lCaJd)

185 @JackPosobiec 5m
Hawaiian Electric says power lines were shut off hours before wildfire, de-energized
Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 28, 2023 04:23 PM (IG4Id)
____________

If true, the betting line on arson by climate activists just moved up.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 28, 2023 04:25 PM (nEndu)

186 @JackPosobiec 5m
Hawaiian Electric says power lines were shut off hours before wildfire, de-energized
Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 28, 2023 04:23 PM (IG4Id)

There's plenty of youtube videos out there from cell phones that show that's absolute bullshit. Lines laying on the ground sparking and arcing on the day it happened.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 28, 2023 04:25 PM (i9ffA)

187 On my last trip there in 2019 I couldn't see native Germans at any service point, at the airport, car rental, hotels, restaurants, gas stations, it was wall to wall middle easterners.
Posted by: President Select Decaf at August 28, 2023 04:19 PM (3JfbU)

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Same with France. At least in the big cities. Rural France is still nominally French. For now. In Germany even small towns and rural areas are gone.

Posted by: Montec at August 28, 2023 04:25 PM (ZEbnh)

188 This brunette in white is quietly contemplating the total subversion of all things in American government and other institutions:
https://is.gd/crVb1V

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 28, 2023 04:26 PM (t0OGg)

189 The more I see of Haley, the more I see she's a shrill harridan. Oof. Like nails on a chalkboard.
______

She's one of the reasons why we have mute buttons on our remote.

Tim McCarver and Barack Obama are the other two.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 28, 2023 04:26 PM (lf83v)

190 There's plenty of youtube videos out there from cell phones that show that's absolute bullshit. Lines laying on the ground sparking and arcing on the day it happened.
Posted by: Tom Servo

CGI. Just like the lasers.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 28, 2023 04:26 PM (wsSEe)

191 Same with France. At least in the big cities. Rural France is still nominally French. For now. In Germany even small towns and rural areas are gone.
Posted by: Montec at August 28, 2023 04:25 PM (ZEbnh)
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There have been numerous stories about how the German government has pushed out entire villages in favor of their new MENA overlords.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 28, 2023 04:26 PM (YIVH2)

192 She's one of the reasons why we have mute buttons on our remote.

Tim McCarver and Barack Obama are the other two.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 28, 2023 04:26 PM (lf83v)
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Too true!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 28, 2023 04:27 PM (nEndu)

193 Dinesh didn't fill out paperwork correctly for $15,000 in donations and spent months in supermax with murderers and rapists.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 28, 2023 04:24 PM (wsSEe)
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And Merrick Garland will sell you that there is no two-tiered system of justice with your swampland.

Posted by: Axeman at August 28, 2023 04:27 PM (krQz2)

194 I have a theory about Europe and the Muzzies. I posit that the Europeans have a residual cultural respect for the Muslims dating from the Spanish Reconquista and the Crusades. They actually fought the Muslims, so the old, aristocratic warrior nobility of Europe saw them as more or less equals in the war business and respected them as adversaries. Witness the medieval lionization of Saladin, for example.

Whereas the European Jews were never in a position to go head-to-head with the Europeans militarily, and so were looked down on as "debased" and weak."

So I think European Islamophilia and Anti-Judaism are linked, and have both been around for a long time.

Just a personal theory, but thought I'd share it.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 28, 2023 04:27 PM (xTRSc)

195 This brunette in white is quietly contemplating the total subversion of all things in American government and other institutions:
https://is.gd/crVb1V
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 28, 2023 04:26 PM (t0OGg)
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Hmmm. All in white, standing in a lake? Perhaps she's just in need of a baptism.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 28, 2023 04:27 PM (YIVH2)

196 Johann Georg Wyss known as Hansjörg Wyss (born 19 September 1935) is a Swiss billionaire businessman and donor to politically liberal and environmental causes in the United States. He is the founder and the former president and chairman of Synthes Holding AG, a medical device manufacturer. His Wyss Foundation has more than $2 billion in assets. As of March 2022, Wyss had a net worth of US$5.1 billion, according to Forbes.[1] Having donated hundreds of millions of dollars to environmental causes, he has more recently increased his donations to groups promoting progressive causes. He is currently the co-owner of Premier League football club Chelsea.[2]

Posted by: DB - E Pluribus Funk at August 28, 2023 04:28 PM (geLO8)

197 @JackPosobiec 5m
Hawaiian Electric says power lines were shut off hours before wildfire, de-energized
Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 28, 2023 04:23 PM (IG4Id)

There's plenty of youtube videos out there from cell phones that show that's absolute bullshit. Lines laying on the ground sparking and arcing on the day it happened.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 28, 2023 04:25 PM (i9ffA)
***

The incompetence continues. These assholes cannot even get their lies straight.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 28, 2023 04:28 PM (hv9bm)

198 > There's plenty of youtube videos out there from cell phones that show that's absolute bullshit. Lines laying on the ground sparking and arcing on the day it happened.

Yep, and there's a IoT power surge monitoring company that has all sorts of data that shows power surges right when the fires started.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 28, 2023 04:28 PM (R38qh)

199 180 Dinesh didn't fill out paperwork correctly for $15,000 in donations and spent months in supermax with murderers and rapists.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 28, 2023 04:24 PM (wsSEe)

That wasn't the crime - the crime was that Dinesh didn't pay off a properly designated member of the DC consulting class to say grace over his paperwork and give it his secular blessing. THAT's why he was punished so severely. I actually don't think it had much at all to do with his politics; it was about his refusal to make the required payoffs.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 28, 2023 04:28 PM (i9ffA)

200 "There's plenty of youtube videos out there from cell phones that show that's absolute bullshit. Lines laying on the ground sparking and arcing on the day it happened."

Negative ghost rider. The videos are from earlier in the day. Hawaii Power even states that. They also state those fires on the video were put out by the FD and declared extinguished at some point. The power was still off and the lines were not repaired yet when the second fire started by the school. They don't know the cause of that fire, and it's being investigated, but that's the one causing the devastation.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 28, 2023 04:28 PM (oZhq1)

201 Hawaiian Electric says power lines were shut off hours before wildfire, de-energized
_________

The plot thickens.

Better get Steve McGarrett on the case.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 28, 2023 04:24 PM (lf83v)
........

I hesitate to comment until Kam Fong as Chin Ho weighs in.

Posted by: wth at August 28, 2023 04:28 PM (v0R5T)

202 Hmmm. All in white, standing in a lake? Perhaps she's just in need of a baptism.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 28, 2023 04:27 PM (YIVH2)
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There's no evidence that she is *in* a lake. The only that can be assumed is close proximity to a lake...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 28, 2023 04:28 PM (t0OGg)

203 No citizen of the USA should ever talk shit about a foreign country again.

We will of course, but we should not. We are so fucked up it hurts.

I think about the young trusting me...I should kick my ass.

Posted by: DOYLE at August 28, 2023 04:29 PM (Z8Yh2)

204 So if I'm rich, and don't donate to anyone, how exactly do I get wrangled? Is it a nice call from a big name Democrat? Or in invitation to a lunch? Or a visit from Guido and Antonio?

Nice business you've got there Mr Rich Guy. Be a shame if you were investigated though wouldn't it?

Hey, I'm hosting a fund raiser for the local Dem AG candidate in your state. How much of a donation should I put you down for? Most people in your shoes donate this much (Number). Much less then the average investigation/litigation costs isn't it?

Posted by: 18-1 at August 28, 2023 04:29 PM (lc5cP)

205 "Dinesh didn't fill out paperwork correctly for $15,000 in donations and spent months in supermax with murderers and rapists."

Because... let me guess, No one is above the law!
Right?

Posted by: gourmand du jour at August 28, 2023 04:29 PM (MeG8a)

206 Do German young women crank out babies with the muslim men just to get attention from dad?

All the white girls here find gang bangers from philly and wilkes barre to bring home and piss off dad.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 28, 2023 04:29 PM (wsSEe)

207 Bill Kristol is one of the organizers, if that tells ya anything.
Posted by: redridinghood at August 28, 2023 04:24 PM (NpAcC)

Kristol has sunk down to the point of holding up a sign up on the corner of some intersection that says: "will pull my pants down for $$!"

He's long since left the ability to feel embarrassment apparently.

Posted by: Boswell at August 28, 2023 04:29 PM (K+UlC)

208 There's plenty of youtube videos out there from cell phones that show that's absolute bullshit. Lines laying on the ground sparking and arcing on the day it happened.
__________

They could have shut the power grid down and the arcing could still happen.

If people have automatic generators installed in their homes (which is common in hurricane areas) the home generators will send current into the system unless the homeowner isolates their system from the grid with a cutoff switch.

The automatic generators could have been sending current into the system.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 28, 2023 04:30 PM (lf83v)

209 Every Senate candidate for the Dems starts with $50 million now.
Every House in a competitive district starts with $5 -$10 million.

There isn't a race they don't have a 2:1 advantage in money now.

But please, do go on about how we just need better candidates, ones who refrain from vulgarity, infidelity or have any stain of transgressions whatsoever.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 28, 2023 04:05 PM (Aj9wt)

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I think we don't have enough vulgarity on our side. We should do what Breitbart said and make this our campaign slogan:

Fuck you! War!

Posted by: President Select Decaf at August 28, 2023 04:30 PM (3JfbU)

210 Nice business you've got there Mr Rich Guy. Be a shame if you were investigated though wouldn't it? ...
Posted by: 18-1 at August 28, 2023 04:29 PM (lc5cP)
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Or have the regulators come in five-abreast to make you unprofitable.

Just ask Elon Musk. It's in the early stages with him, but they'll get there. He *will* be brought to heel.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 28, 2023 04:30 PM (t0OGg)

211 Do German young women crank out babies with the muslim men just to get attention from dad?

Hard to get preggers when you are using the backhole.

Posted by: German women at August 28, 2023 04:30 PM (lc5cP)

212 This brunette in white is quietly contemplating the total subversion of all things in American government and other institutions:
https://is.gd/crVb1V
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 28, 2023 04:26 PM (t0OGg)
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Hmmm. All in white, standing in a lake? Perhaps she's just in need of a baptism.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 28, 2023 04:27 PM (YIVH2)

is she lobbing a scimitar?

Posted by: SturmToddler at August 28, 2023 04:31 PM (KZaqS)

213 The more I see of Haley, the more I see she's a shrill harridan. Oof. Like nails on a chalkboard.
Posted by: Marcus T at August 28, 2023 04:24 PM (oZhq1)
........

SS code name: The Nag.

Posted by: wth at August 28, 2023 04:31 PM (v0R5T)

214 Hmmm. All in white, standing in a lake? Perhaps she's just in need of a baptism.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel
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Or distributing swords?

Posted by: screaming in digital at August 28, 2023 04:31 PM (aBJcM)

215 Anyway, I'm on record as saying the only hope Trump has at winning is to bend every single campaign finance law as far as possible.
Probably going to have to break many of them too.
Self-fund $5 billion or more; scattering money to sabotors, wreckers, agitators, manipulator, deceptors, corruptors, confusors and every manner of hell and chaos he can think of to attack the system.

Because it's clear the laws are only enforced against Republicans.

The only way Republicans stand a chance is to overwhelmed the system with rule-bending and breaking antics and ploys.

I don't hink Trump will do it. And it's damned sure none of the rest will even dare.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 28, 2023 04:31 PM (Aj9wt)

216 Nice business you've got there Mr Rich Guy. Be a shame if you were investigated though wouldn't it?

Hey, I'm hosting a fund raiser for the local Dem AG candidate in your state. How much of a donation should I put you down for? Most people in your shoes donate this much (Number). Much less then the average investigation/litigation costs isn't it?
Posted by: 18-1 at August 28, 2023 04:29 PM (lc5cP)
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Yeah. Pretty much what I figured.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 28, 2023 04:32 PM (hv9bm)

217 Johann Georg Wyss known as Hansjörg Wyss (born 19 September 1935)

Pushing 90 and still going strong. Yet Joe the plumber.....

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 28, 2023 04:32 PM (wsSEe)

218 Hmmm. All in white, standing in a lake?
________

Knights in White Satin?

Posted by: The Moody Blues at August 28, 2023 04:32 PM (lf83v)

219 Hmmm. All in white, standing in a lake? Perhaps she's just in need of a baptism.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 28, 2023 04:27 PM (YIVH2)

is she lobbing a scimitar?
Posted by: SturmToddler at August 28, 2023 04:31 PM (KZaqS)

Or distributing swords?
Posted by: screaming in digital at August 28, 2023 04:31 PM (aBJcM)
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Horde Mind is awesome!

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 28, 2023 04:32 PM (YIVH2)

220 Hmmm. All in white, standing in a lake? Perhaps she's just in need of a baptism.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 28, 2023 04:27 PM (YIVH2)

is she lobbing a scimitar?
Posted by: SturmToddler at August 28, 2023 04:31 PM (KZaqS)
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Is she moistened?

Posted by: Axeman at August 28, 2023 04:32 PM (krQz2)

221 140 "All you need to know about RedState is it was run Erick Erickson "

And he took it over from Ben Domenech who got canned for plagiarism.
Posted by: Marcus T at August 28, 2023 04:16 PM (oZhq1)

Who then married Meghan McCain, and...you know the rest.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 28, 2023 04:33 PM (/iWhV)

222 The more I see of Haley, the more I see she's a shrill harridan. Oof. Like nails on a chalkboard.
Posted by: Marcus T at August 28, 2023 04:24 PM (oZhq1)

It's a problem with lots of politicians, but especially women. I think it's a big reason Shrillery lost (the scolding tone) and Kamaalalal couldn't even get 1% as a candidate (the shrill cackle).

Posted by: LASue at August 28, 2023 04:34 PM (Ed8Zd)

223 All political donations should be limited to constituents who are also qualified to vote.

This will never happen, but there is no legitimate reason for someone outside a jurisdiction to contribute to a candidate. This is REPRESENTATIVE democracy,

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at August 28, 2023 04:34 PM (su8Oy)

224 The power was still off and the lines were not repaired yet when the second fire started by the school. They don't know the cause of that fire, and it's being investigated, but that's the one causing the devastation.
Posted by: Marcus T at August 28, 2023 04:28 PM (oZhq1)

I think you're referring to the fire where the Fire Dep't went out and halfheartedly put it out, and it was suggested that they stick around and make sure it was really out, and they said "Nah bro, it's all good, we're outta here." And a few minutes after they took off it started back up bigger then ever.

oh but yeah they want to say that this was some "second fire" that had nothing to do with the one already burning.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 28, 2023 04:34 PM (i9ffA)

225 That headline makes absolutely no sense to me. Should I see a doctor?

Posted by: LASue at August 28, 2023 04:35 PM (Ed8Zd)

226 Self-fund $5 billion or more

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He doesn’t have where near that kind of money. Does he even have $50M?

Posted by: Montec at August 28, 2023 04:35 PM (ZEbnh)

227 That headline makes absolutely no sense to me. Should I see a doctor?
________

Only if it last more than four hours.

Posted by: That TV Commercial Guy at August 28, 2023 04:36 PM (lf83v)

228 There was no malarkey associated with the Maui disaster. Wait, wut?

Posted by: That guy who always says... at August 28, 2023 04:36 PM (Xrfse)

229 Bill Krystol is someone about whom I've never said "Man! I'm glad that guy is on our side!"

Thoroughly unimpressive, redundant mid-wit.

Posted by: Axeman at August 28, 2023 04:36 PM (krQz2)

230 That headline makes absolutely no sense to me. Should I see a doctor?
Posted by: LASue at August 28, 2023 04:35 PM (Ed8Zd)
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I think we're need to run it through a hillbilly translator.

Posted by: bluebell at August 28, 2023 04:37 PM (pTb/Z)

231 The more I see of Haley, the more I see she's a shrill harridan. Oof. Like nails on a chalkboard.
Posted by: Marcus T at August 28, 2023 04:24 PM (oZhq1)

It's a problem with lots of politicians, but especially women. I think it's a big reason Shrillery lost (the scolding tone) and Kamaalalal couldn't even get 1% as a candidate (the shrill cackle).
Posted by: LASue at August 28, 2023 04:34 PM (Ed8Zd)
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That's why Condoleezza Rice was nice to listen to.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 28, 2023 04:37 PM (hv9bm)

232 There was no malarkey associated with the Maui disaster.
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Not on my watch, pilgrim!

Posted by: President Charlie Foxtrot at August 28, 2023 04:37 PM (krQz2)

233 Trump DC trial is going to start the day before super Tues. do they think that will hurt him?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 28, 2023 04:38 PM (wsSEe)

234 No it's Muslim men picking up their concubines

Posted by: Skip at August 28, 2023 04:38 PM (MOY79)

235 The way these elections have been going, watery tarts in a pond distributing swords might just be the fairest method of determining power structures.

Posted by: Diesel Jones, Biologist to the Stars at August 28, 2023 04:38 PM (Vu7A1)

236 My my. It seems the young lady may not be wearing any undergarments.

Posted by: wth at August 28, 2023 04:38 PM (v0R5T)

237 That headline makes absolutely no sense to me. Should I see a doctor?
Posted by: LASue at August 28, 2023 04:35 PM (Ed8Zd)
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Ask your doctor if Prohibility is right for you.

Posted by: Axeman at August 28, 2023 04:38 PM (krQz2)

238 My my. It seems the young lady may not be wearing any undergarments.

Apparently today's theme is commandos.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 28, 2023 04:39 PM (lc5cP)

239 If your prohibility is painful to the touch or has a throbbing sensataion, you should seek medical attention.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 28, 2023 04:39 PM (i9ffA)

240 That headline makes absolutely no sense to me. Should I see a doctor?
Posted by: LASue at August 28, 2023 04:35 PM (Ed8Zd)

Naw. Just Lamont being Lamont.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, A.A.S. Drafting Technology at August 28, 2023 04:39 PM (xPJvm)

241 Lol. Emerson’s latest GOP poll shows Hurd with 0%. They usually round everyone up to 1. This means Hurd must have literally had nobody say they’d vote for him. Out of thousands of people called.

Posted by: Montec at August 28, 2023 04:39 PM (ZEbnh)

242 Ask your doctor if Prohibility is right for you.

Do not take Prohibility if you are allergic to Prohibility

Posted by: Drug commercials at August 28, 2023 04:39 PM (lc5cP)

243 Fire can't melt wood!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 28, 2023 04:40 PM (wsSEe)

244 The trick with the CVV was deliberate because Obama figured, correctly, that whatever fine was slapped on him by the FCC or whomever would pale in comparison to the amount of money he would make otherwise. It was a cost of doing business. Act Blue made the same assessment and has been proven correct.

But Heaven forfend we dare not financially penalize Adam Schiff for $16M for transparent lies, fraud, and treason. Oh why no, that would just be too much.

One side wants to win. The other side is the Republicans.

Posted by: Mr. Fabulist at August 28, 2023 04:40 PM (7VCus)

245 The automatic generators could have been sending current into the system.

*****

Yep, voltage on "deenergized" lines can come from backfeed, induction, other (energized) lines falling onto them, etc. etc.

Posted by: Impudent Warwick at August 28, 2023 04:40 PM (f/6Wb)

246 This can't be good.

Posted by: Guy who doesn't think things can be good at August 28, 2023 04:40 PM (MMe0T)

247 231 Condoleeza rocked the boots. Just sayin'.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 28, 2023 04:40 PM (xTRSc)

248 I just tried to digest that headline and the only conclusion that I came to is that Lamont the Big Dummy has taken the helm again. Srsly, wtf??

Posted by: Peaches at August 28, 2023 04:41 PM (14URa)

249 Fire can't melt wood!

NOT FUNNY

Posted by: Rose O'Donnell at August 28, 2023 04:41 PM (lc5cP)

250 Prohibility is the skill-set to outrun the Revenooers with your Chevy.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, A.A.S. Drafting Technology at August 28, 2023 04:41 PM (xPJvm)

251 I think you're referring to the fire where the Fire Dep't went out and halfheartedly put it out, and it was suggested that they stick around and make sure it was really out, and they said "Nah bro, it's all good, we're outta here." And a few minutes after they took off it started back up bigger then ever.

oh but yeah they want to say that this was some "second fire" that had nothing to do with the one already burning.

I think you're right. That's the fire that started at 0630 near the Intermediate School. The FD said the fire was out and left at 2pm. Just before 3pm, the electric crew reported a fire where the FD said the fire was extinguished.

iT's A mYstery

Posted by: bonhomme at August 28, 2023 04:41 PM (R38qh)

252 223 All political donations should be limited to constituents who are also qualified to vote.

This will never happen, but there is no legitimate reason for someone outside a jurisdiction to contribute to a candidate. This is REPRESENTATIVE democracy,
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at August 28, 2023 04:34 PM (su8Oy)

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Agree. Been saying that for years. It's common sense and means a steep cut in the grift, so it won't happen

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at August 28, 2023 04:41 PM (zvubt)

253 One side wants to win. The other side is the Republicans.

Posted by: Mr. Fabulist at August 28, 2023 04:40 PM (7VCus)

One side plays to win. The other plays its role.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 28, 2023 04:42 PM (KbCG3)

254 Do not take Prohibility if you are allergic to Prohibility.

Posted by: Montec at August 28, 2023 04:42 PM (ZEbnh)

255 I am prohilbilly.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 28, 2023 04:43 PM (wsSEe)

256 If your prohibility is painful to the touch or has a throbbing "sensataion", you should seek medical attention.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 28, 2023 04:39 PM (i9ffA)

ISWYDT.....a joke within a joke.

Posted by: Guy who doesn't think things can be good at August 28, 2023 04:43 PM (MMe0T)

257 Do not take Prohibility if you are allergic to Prohibility.

Or any of its ingredients.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 28, 2023 04:43 PM (xTRSc)

258 Don’t take that thing if you are allergic.

Posted by: Carlos Mencia at August 28, 2023 04:43 PM (ZEbnh)

259 Note, a campaign MUST report all donations larger than $200.

They do not have to report $199 or less, so with a credit card system you could easily give millions to a campaign from overseas... just have to do it with smaller transactions.

Because the FEC will NEVER actually look at all those transactions.

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 28, 2023 04:43 PM (oHd/0)

260 According to Woodward (so take it with a grain of salt) after the Access Hollywood tape of Trump saying "p*ssy" leaked Pence offered to become the presidential nominee with C Rice as his VP.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 28, 2023 04:44 PM (lc5cP)

261 Prohibility I mean right? Sounds like a drug commercial.

Posted by: Amy Shumer at August 28, 2023 04:44 PM (ZEbnh)

262 That headline makes absolutely no sense to me. Should I see a doctor?

See Doc Clem "Skooter" Fingerbottom. His office is up a holla a bit. Can't miss it. Got lots of chickens in the yard and a still out back.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 28, 2023 04:44 PM (hv9bm)

263 Johann Georg Wyss known as Hansjörg Wyss (born 19 September 1935)

Pushing 90 and still going strong. Yet Joe the plumber.....
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 28, 2023 04:32 PM (wsSEe)

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Definite proof that vampires exist.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at August 28, 2023 04:44 PM (3JfbU)

264 And then taxes go up...

@Patriot_Musket 28m
KARMA (finally!): Judge finds students harmed by remote learning inequities can sue TF out of California

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 28, 2023 04:45 PM (IG4Id)

265 Prohibility I mean right? Sounds like a drug commercial.

Posted by: Amy Shumer at August 28, 2023 04:44 PM (ZEbnh)

Wasn't that when they banned booze?

Posted by: Guy who doesn't think things can be good at August 28, 2023 04:45 PM (MMe0T)

266 All the white girls here find gang bangers from philly and wilkes barre to bring home and piss off dad.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 28, 2023 04:29 PM (wsSEe)
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I don't recommend that.

Posted by: Zombie Nicole Brown at August 28, 2023 04:45 PM (nEndu)

267 How else was Mr. Trump supposed to talk about his cat?

Posted by: Zombie Mrs. Slocumbe at August 28, 2023 04:45 PM (xTRSc)

268 According to Woodward (so take it with a grain of salt) after the Access Hollywood tape of Trump saying "p*ssy" leaked Pence offered to become the presidential nominee with C Rice as his VP.
Posted by: 18-1 at August 28, 2023 04:44 PM (lc5cP)

If someone from the MSM told be water is wet, I’d be skeptical.

Posted by: Montec at August 28, 2023 04:45 PM (ZEbnh)

269 And he took it over from Ben Domenech who got canned for plagiarism.
Posted by: Marcus T at August 28, 2023 04:16 PM (oZhq1)

Who then married Meghan McCain, and...you know the rest.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 28, 2023 04:33 PM (/iWhV)

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Can that guy see through his swollen eyes?

Posted by: President Select Decaf at August 28, 2023 04:45 PM (3JfbU)

270 Johann Georg Wyss known as Hansjörg Wyss (born 19 September 1935)

Pushing 90 and still going strong. Yet Joe the plumber.....
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 28, 2023 04:32 PM (wsSEe)

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Definite proof that vampires exist.
Posted by: President Select Decaf at August 28, 2023 04:44 PM (3JfbU)
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The good die young. George Soros is gonna live forever.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 28, 2023 04:46 PM (nEndu)

271 Do not taunt happy, fun Prohibility

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at August 28, 2023 04:46 PM (xcxpd)

272 Obama didn't get any foreign donations. It's just a coincidence that there were a bunch of $127.36 donations matching the €100 exchange rate for that day!

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at August 28, 2023 04:46 PM (krqg6)

273 And then taxes go up...

@Patriot_Musket 28m
KARMA (finally!): Judge finds students harmed by remote learning inequities can sue TF out of California
Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 28, 2023 04:45 PM (IG4Id)
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And everybody knows that the more sensible solution is to enter a legal injunction against Democrats on the ticket.

Posted by: Axeman at August 28, 2023 04:47 PM (krQz2)

274 Lest we forget, Obama did all that stuff in 2008 when Bush was president and could have easily investigated. But chose not to.

Posted by: Montec at August 28, 2023 04:48 PM (ZEbnh)

275 268 According to Woodward (so take it with a grain of salt) after the Access Hollywood tape of Trump saying "p*ssy" leaked Pence offered to become the presidential nominee with C Rice as his VP.
Posted by: 18-1 at August 28, 2023 04:44 PM (lc5cP)

Bullshit. Pence wasn't on anyone's radar, or even sonar, until Trump couldn't find anyone with the stones to take the job.

Posted by: Peaches at August 28, 2023 04:48 PM (14URa)

276 That headline makes absolutely no sense to me. Should I see a doctor?
Posted by: LASue at August 28, 2023 04:35 PM (Ed8Zd)
.......

The AoS AI has developed a sense of humor. Next it will be telling penis jokes.

Posted by: wth at August 28, 2023 04:48 PM (v0R5T)

277 259 Note, a campaign MUST report all donations larger than $200.

They do not have to report $199 or less, so with a credit card system you could easily give millions to a campaign from overseas... just have to do it with smaller transactions.

Because the FEC will NEVER actually look at all those transactions.
Posted by: Romeo13 at August 28, 2023 04:43 PM (oHd/0)

Unless your in the Obama campaign and you remove those safeguards

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at August 28, 2023 04:48 PM (dKiJG)

278 Donna Douglas was the best thing about the Beverly Prohibilities.

Her, and the banjo playing.

Posted by: Zombie Mrs. Slocumbe at August 28, 2023 04:48 PM (xTRSc)

279 I guess I sort of understand the motivations behind some of the anti "conspiracy theorists" here at the HQ but if y'all don't think some weird shit isn't going down on a daily basis, I don't know what else to say.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 28, 2023 04:48 PM (Xrfse)

280 I know how to solve this. We just need to vote harder.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at August 28, 2023 04:49 PM (BdMk6)

281 ace, I'm struggling with that headline. Is "prohibibility" a real word?

Posted by: creeper at August 28, 2023 04:49 PM (cTCuP)

282 The AoS AI has developed a sense of humor. Next it will be telling penis jokes.

That particular, organ, for The Paolo, is, how you say, no joke.

Posted by: The Paolo at August 28, 2023 04:50 PM (xTRSc)

283 Barky and Hildabeast were raking in millions in foreign campaign donations

Posted by: Skip at August 28, 2023 04:50 PM (MOY79)

284 Damn, awesomely poor grammar on my part.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 28, 2023 04:50 PM (Xrfse)

285 >oh but yeah they want to say that this was some "second fire" that had nothing to do with the one already burning.

Second Fire Theory

Posted by: DB - E Pluribus Funk at August 28, 2023 04:50 PM (geLO8)

286 Will no one rid me of these meddlesome socks?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 28, 2023 04:50 PM (xTRSc)

287 Send $100 today so that we can fight (insert things that rubes are angry about today) on your behalf.
- GOP

Posted by: Montec at August 28, 2023 04:50 PM (ZEbnh)

288 I think you're referring to the fire where the Fire Dep't went out and halfheartedly put it out, and it was suggested that they stick around and make sure it was really out, and they said "Nah bro, it's all good, we're outta here." And a few minutes after they took off it started back up bigger then ever.

oh but yeah they want to say that this was some "second fire" that had nothing to do with the one already burning.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 28, 2023 04:34 PM (i9ffA)

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Incompetence from top to bottom. They all certainly lived up to their motto "chill out" and so a lot of people got burned.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at August 28, 2023 04:51 PM (3JfbU)

289 Send $100 today so that we can fight (insert things that rubes are angry about today) on your behalf.
- GOP

ACT NOW AND GET X15 MATCH!

Posted by: 18-1 at August 28, 2023 04:51 PM (lc5cP)

290 >I guess I sort of understand the motivations behind some of the anti "conspiracy theorists" here at the HQ

it's a fever swamp

Posted by: DB - E Pluribus Funk at August 28, 2023 04:51 PM (geLO8)

291 Do not take Prohibility if you are allergic to Prohibility.
.......

Side effects include: birth defects, hatred of neighbors, and corn cob pipe smoking.

Posted by: wth at August 28, 2023 04:51 PM (v0R5T)

292 That headline makes absolutely no sense to me. Should I see a doctor?
Posted by: LASue

Resident limerick writer might have a go at it.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 28, 2023 04:52 PM (JzerJ)

293 Will no one rid me of these meddlesome socks?

Hmm...since you asked...

Posted by: The wormhole in your dryer that sucks up individual socks at August 28, 2023 04:52 PM (lc5cP)

294 Johnny Chung would like to remind you of his ground breaking work in making foreign money a standard part of Democratic presidential elections.

Posted by: Lost In Space at August 28, 2023 04:52 PM (YT6ur)

295 Damn, awesomely poor grammar on my part.

Congratulations! Proves you're not racist or white supremacist.

You will get the top bunk in the camp.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 28, 2023 04:52 PM (xTRSc)

296 Ratz. Too many Bs. At least I'm not the only one pondering that header.

Posted by: creeper at August 28, 2023 04:52 PM (cTCuP)

297 Bullshit. Pence wasn't on anyone's radar, or even sonar, until Trump couldn't find anyone with the stones to take the job.
Posted by: Peaches
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The access hollywood tape (October 2016) was after Pence was selected as nominee at the Repub convention. Its possible but Woodward is a known liar and Pence is a backstabbing fake as hell sob.

Posted by: whig at August 28, 2023 04:52 PM (X99mU)

298 Some of this money was funneled through Texas or Florida or I dunno Utah.

Where are those state AGs? Trump get indicted by a county prosecutor but none of the 30 ofd Republican state AGs can find anything on any national Dem? Seriously????

Posted by: Montec at August 28, 2023 04:53 PM (ZEbnh)

299 >oh but yeah they want to say that this was some "second fire" that had nothing to do with the one already burning.

Second Fire Theory
Posted by: DB - E Pluribus Funk at August 28, 2023 04:50 PM (geLO

***

Was that the on that started on the grassy knoll?

Posted by: Diogenes at August 28, 2023 04:53 PM (hv9bm)

300 Its possible but Woodward is a known liar and Pence is a backstabbing fake as hell sob.

This is like one of those "immovable objects" and "irresistible force" scenarios in reverse

Pence screwing over Trump? Does the sun rise in the east?

But Woodward telling the truth? Does the Pope shit in the woods?

Posted by: 18-1 at August 28, 2023 04:54 PM (lc5cP)

301 nood with everything spelled correctly in the headline, but entire blockquote hyperlinked

Love ya Ace

Posted by: screaming in digital at August 28, 2023 04:54 PM (aBJcM)

302 Congratulations! Proves you're not racist or white supremacist.
You will get the top bunk in the camp.

Thanks, but someone else can have it. I don't plan on being there.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 28, 2023 04:54 PM (Xrfse)

303 Ok so I don’t get the match thing. Who is matching it? And if you have $500 to match my $100 why do you need my $100 to begin with?

Posted by: Montec at August 28, 2023 04:55 PM (ZEbnh)

304 This is like one of those "immovable objects" and "irresistible force" scenarios in reverse

Pence screwing over Trump? Does the sun rise in the east?

But Woodward telling the truth? Does the Pope shit in the woods?
Posted by: 18-1
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Well put. Like Ukraine and Russia, why can't they both lose.

Posted by: whig at August 28, 2023 04:55 PM (X99mU)

305 I don't plan on being there.

No one PLANS on being there...

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 28, 2023 04:56 PM (xTRSc)

306 *wanders back in*

Wasn't the first Vatican Treaty in uhm? the one that prohibited Switzerland from exporting mercenary troops to anyone but the Holy See?

In spite of Harry Lime, never trust the Swiss.

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 28, 2023 04:56 PM (Dbn8T)

307 never trust the Swiss

Except for Swiss Miss, Instant Cocoa

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 28, 2023 04:57 PM (xTRSc)

308 >Was that the on that started on the grassy knoll?

Posted by: Diogenes

somewhere on Maui, there was a Grassy Knoll
scorched now

Posted by: DB - E Pluribus Funk at August 28, 2023 04:58 PM (geLO8)

309 306 Lime and Swiss was a really bad Doritos flavor.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 28, 2023 04:59 PM (xTRSc)

310 "oh but yeah they want to say that this was some "second fire" that had nothing to do with the one already burning."

Eh, I'm not gonna witness for the FD or anyone else. But there were a bunch of people who declared that fire extinguished and were there to see it. They have repeated those claims in statements. The second fire by the school was apparently away from the second fire, with some even saying it was "suspicious". That was away from the wires and happened much later.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 28, 2023 05:06 PM (oZhq1)

311 Explain to me again, as if I were small child, you may use the poppets, what is this American Exceptionalism again?

Ooh then explain how elections should be free and fair!! I like that story too!

Posted by: V. PUTIN at August 28, 2023 05:18 PM (BYyLa)

312 Combine an electorate dumbed-down by failing public schools with progressive policies that seem to offer hope (but don't deliver), and you have the USA sliding off a cliff.

Posted by: JM in Fla/Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at August 28, 2023 06:13 PM (5KtRL)

313 The Swiss billionaire Hansjörg Wyss has a profound interest in American politics. Over the years, he has pumped $475 million he has earned manufacturing medical devices into left-wing advocacy groups -- $72 million in 2021 alone.....

If and when you finally need a medical device, you find out how he recouped all his money.
My device costs Madicare over $6,000.
BUT, when I didn't want to wait and got it for cash it only cost me $750.
What a markup the taxpayers are sending to guys like him!

Posted by: Nan G at August 28, 2023 07:06 PM (QgZXy)

314 If you remember it was even worse with Obama.

He was caught and told by the federal election commission to reinstate the protections to make sure he wasn't getting foreign donations. So he reinstated it, the FEC checked and gave him the okay to recieve donations again, and his people immediately removed the verifications.

So they knew what what they were doing, and when they figured they wouldn't be checked again, they went back to breaking the law.

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Posted by: www.Payathome7.com at August 29, 2023 05:35 AM (uxXKv)

316 Re: What leftists think. In all honesty, there are not any words that can convey how little I care about what leftists think. They don't fucking think, and the musings of imbeciles do not interest me.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at August 30, 2023 09:22 AM (pohLc)

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