Saturday Gardening, Puttering and Adventure Thread, Aug. 26

Happy Summer, everybody! The lovely, peachy daylily above is from Neal in Israel. There were others last week.

This week, we also have some photos of garden harvests from The Horde! And some other interesting information. Thanks for joining us!

Edible Gardening/Putting Things By

By-Tor grows some garden produce sometimes, but he also has friends who give him gifts from the garden. These are friendships worth cultivating!

Recently, a tennis friend gave him some heirloom tomatoes. Looks like he scored an oxheart type and a dark beefsteak type, so they should have had distinctively different flavors.

They seemed perfect for lunch after three sets of tennis.

Another friend imagined how he would have served them:

With strawberries, roasted walnuts, goat cheese, with some butter, lettuce, and a tarragon red wine vinegar salad . . .

How would you serve those tomatoes? Maybe on a BLT sandwich? If you have had this problem, consult others on this thread.

Also from By-Tor:

Peach upside down cake made from scratch. I used Swans Down cake flour for a smooth, dense crumb.
It's basically a pineapple upside down cake with peaches instead of pineapple.
I made this in a 12" cast iron skillet.

Mmmmm . . .

Made anything peachy lately? We missed National Eat a Peach Day on Tuesday, though we did have some nectarines. We live real close to prime nectarine climate (they are more challenging to grow than peaches).

Wonder how the giant peach cobbler in Georgia worked out? Peach cobbler with a few raspberries is nice, if your raspberries are just starting to come into season when you are harvesting peaches.

Moar harvest delights from Shari in Idaho:

Rosa Bianca egg plant-just had eggplant parmesan tonight. Size a bit bigger than a softball.

Gorgeous. I've grown that heirloom variety, billed as bitter-free, and liked it. I remember it as growing a little bigger, but better to pick it small rather than to wait for maximum size.

Beefsteak tomatoes finally coming on. I thought I was going to get skunked.

Mmmmm. I see some mulch. Do you think it helps?

Unripened Primotalli hot pepper. See the tail? It's about 2 million scoville units, one of the hottest.

Too hot for me. How about you? The tail is unique. I've never heard of this variety.

Tiny carrots planted to harvest this winter. Will cover with hay when it snows.

Wide row! Do you have a special thinning technique?

Ah, Nature

We have a new guest on our apple tree . . .
Nan in AZ

We have some of those visitors, too. What do they remind you of?

Hello KT
Longtime thread reader. AOS nick "Mildly Retarded Lurker".
Hoping you can help identify this massive growth. I live a bit north of Charlotte NC. These things keep growing in my yard and I suppose they are . . . mushrooms?
I try not to intentionally grow anything since it dies before I can develop any bond with it, so this is definitely wild.
That said I love your posts in the way it's cool to see stuff one can never do.
Thanks

Well, I think it is a mushroom, but I wouldn't count on it being edible. Anyone have an ID? It's attractive. But some attractive mushrooms are also deadly.

Puttering

These cupcakes are fancier than yours. But you could still make some garden-themed cupcakes. (h/t David Thompson)

Succulent cupcakes by Kerry's Bouqcakes 🌿 pic.twitter.com/5HSSFpkddh
— Houseplant Hobbyist (@HobbyistPlant) August 21, 2023

Adventure

Icebox Canyon, Wasatch Range, Three Seasons

Gardens of The Horde

Anything going on in your yard or garden, or nearby adventure zones?

Hope everyone has a nice weekend.

If you would like to send photos, stories, links, etc. for the Saturday Gardening, Puttering and Adventure Thread, the address is:

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Week in Review

What has changed since last week's thread? Saturday Gardening, Puttering and Adventure Thread, Aug. 19

UPDATE

ID of the opening photo:

The flower is an "orchid cactus" and it will be difficult to get an
accurate ID because so many are "mutts". [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epiphyllum_hybrid]
Because of their one-day-flowering thing, they will accept being
pollinated with anything related, which has lead to a wide variety of
named "varieties". If you raised a dozen plants for a couple of years,
you could potentially breed one you could propagate and sell as
"Epiphyllum sp. 'Kindltot' ".
So long as they don't frost, they are quite easy to grow. In nature,
their kind is found in tropical forests of central America - -
frequently, the seedlings sprout in leaf-collections between tree
branches, abandoned bird nests, or other random clumps of organic matter
- - they don't need much in the way of soil. I have successfully grown
them in a mix of about 50/50 rinsed playground sand and compost, in clay
pots. Like orchids, they prefer to be fed "weakly, weekly". They prefer
part shade.
As with many succulents, a broken-off leaf can be set aside for a week
and then potted, and will probably "take" and grow a new plant that is a
clone of the old one. To get new color patterns, however, you must have
two dissimilar plants and cross-pollinate, using a q-tip to replace the
central American fauna that probably isn't available on the night it is
needed.
Franklin

Thanks for the great information!

Here's 'Wendy'.

Any thoughts or questions?

I closed the comments on this post so you wouldn't get banned for commenting on a week-old post, but don't try it anyway.

Posted by: K.T. at 01:26 PM

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1 It's green chile season again here in NM, you get tired of every dish having to have them in it after awhile.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at August 26, 2023 01:33 PM (tRWwW)

2 Peach upside down cake

Damn fine looking cake! How I'd like a slice!

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2023 01:33 PM (ynpvh)

3 That mushroom is a black staining polypore. Not poisonous.

Posted by: JSchuler at August 26, 2023 01:34 PM (l6eKM)

4 jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2023 01:33 PM

Yes, it does look good!

Posted by: KT at August 26, 2023 01:34 PM (rrtZS)

5 Dating is a real headache for praying mantises.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2023 01:35 PM (ynpvh)

6 hiya

Posted by: JT at August 26, 2023 01:36 PM (T4tVD)

7 https://www.mushroom-appreciation.com/
black-staining-polypore.html

I know almost nuthin' 'bout 'shrooms. But found this about black staining polyphores.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2023 01:38 PM (ynpvh)

8 hiya, JT

Posted by: KT at August 26, 2023 01:39 PM (rrtZS)

9 Pickling cucumbers coming out my ears.

USDA canning book says three dill heads per quart. My dill heads were huge. Three wouldn't fit in the jars, let alone allow cucumbers too.
So I put one in, stem attached to the giant umbrell.

They canning failed, as when I went to remove the rings, I could see bubbles, like 7up. No no, can't have air in the jars. I thought I did everything perfect. I think the whole head of dill trapped air that I failed to release properly, though I did try.

Now I have to dump six quarts.

And what the heck is "a bunch of dill"? Everything is supposed to be so precise and then this obscure measurement. I'm just baffled.

And a failure.

Posted by: Derak at August 26, 2023 01:39 PM (nVYIn)

10 JSchuler at August 26, 2023 01:34 PM

Sounds scientific! Does it have poisonous look-alikes?

Posted by: KT at August 26, 2023 01:39 PM (rrtZS)

11 Hiya KT !

Posted by: JT at August 26, 2023 01:40 PM (T4tVD)

12 Tinfoilbaby at August 26, 2023 01:33 PM

We get your seasonal NM chiles on rotisserie chickens out here in Central California too!

Posted by: KT at August 26, 2023 01:41 PM (rrtZS)

13 Tiny carrots planted to harvest this winter. Will cover with hay when it snows.

(Don Ho starts singing....)

Tiny carrots...in the wine...makes me feel happy....makes me feel fine...

Posted by: JT at August 26, 2023 01:42 PM (T4tVD)

14 jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2023 01:35 PM

Our illiterate Mexican friend thinks that if you step on a praying mantis, you can kill a horse a football field away. Plus, they kill cows. Because they eat black widows or something.

Posted by: KT at August 26, 2023 01:42 PM (rrtZS)

15 So the first pickle endeavor was fresh hot pack.

This second go around I decided to ferment, which entails sitting in brine for a bunch of weeks and skimming scum off every day. Then canning when the fermenting stops.

Never done this before either but I'm a glutton for punishment.

Any pickle experts out there?

Posted by: Derak at August 26, 2023 01:43 PM (nVYIn)

16 You know how in old movies you see the pickle barrels? What did they make the pickles in, and how long would they last?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at August 26, 2023 01:44 PM (tRWwW)

17 mums are on sale at the local market

normally, this would be a good thing

but the milfs of the Berkshires leave something to be desired

Posted by: REDACTED at August 26, 2023 01:46 PM (us2H3)

18 My tomatoes have all given up the ghost.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 26, 2023 01:46 PM (aD39U)

19 Good afternoon Greenthumbs

Had some guests in my garden last few weeks, 4 baby bunnies. As of Thursday they have always been in their nest and covered up and as looked in on them daily can tell their mom was covering them. But Thursday it looked like they might start getting out expected Friday to see them hopping around the garden but they were gone. Don't think anything else got them as it is fenced off, they had top cover from my plexiglass mini greenhouse. So keeping eye out in yard but so sign of them yet.

Posted by: Skip at August 26, 2023 01:46 PM (MOY79)

20 Derak at August 26, 2023 01:39 PM

You don't have to dump you pickles. Refrigerate them and use them sooner. Use immature dill seed heads, before the seeds turn totally brown, for best flavor. You don't need 3 per jar, and the seeds don't need to be hooked to the stem.

One 2 or 3 inch seed head per quart should be plenty. Unless you're going for super-dilly pickles.

Posted by: KT at August 26, 2023 01:47 PM (rrtZS)

21 KT at August 26, 2023 01:39 PM (rrtZS)

Closest you're going to find to a poisonous lookalike is Hapalopilus nidulans:

https://tinyurl.com/y73c3sdm

Posted by: JSchuler at August 26, 2023 01:48 PM (l6eKM)

22 On a lark I planted some morning glory seeds. They've gone crazy! I've run strings all over my deck and front porch for them. Lotsa fun to be greeted by "new every morning" blossoms.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at August 26, 2023 01:48 PM (NBVIP)

23 14 jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2023 01:35 PM

Our illiterate Mexican friend thinks that if you step on a praying mantis, you can kill a horse a football field away. Plus, they kill cows. Because they eat black widows or something.

Posted by: KT at August 26, 2023 01:42 PM (rrtZS)

Never heard any of those, and I grew up in a community that was 80-90% mexican.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2023 01:48 PM (ynpvh)

24 Willowed last thread.

347 313

Bob Barker dead at 99.
Wow. Missed the century mark by about 4 months.

https://tinyurl.com/34m5humm

Posted by: Dr. Claw at August 26, 2023 01:49 PM (roH4R)

25 Morning glory seeds are hallucinogenic.

Just noting.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 26, 2023 01:49 PM (aD39U)

26 My garden broke me. That and the blistering weather. I can't make myself go out there, even though it's hornworm season.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at August 26, 2023 01:49 PM (Mzdiz)

27 18 My tomatoes have all given up the ghost.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 26, 2023 01:46 PM (aD39U)

Is it haunting you?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2023 01:49 PM (ynpvh)

28 Derak at August 26, 2023 01:39 PM

If it really says a "bunch of dill" they may be talking about green leaves, as for salads. Those are much less flavorful than the seed heads, so 3 per quart would make sense.

Posted by: KT at August 26, 2023 01:50 PM (rrtZS)

29 18 My tomatoes have all given up the ghost.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 26, 2023 01:46 PM (aD39U)

yep

Posted by: Bill Cosby at August 26, 2023 01:50 PM (us2H3)

30 On a lark I planted some morning glory seeds. They've gone crazy! I've run strings all over my deck and front porch for them. Lotsa fun to be greeted by "new every morning" blossoms.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty

But they start drinking in the afternoon....

Posted by: JT at August 26, 2023 01:50 PM (T4tVD)

31 Miley, okravangelist at August 26, 2023 01:49 PM

Go at night with a UV flashlight to see the hornworms.

Posted by: KT at August 26, 2023 01:50 PM (rrtZS)

32 jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2023 01:48 PM

He's from an indigenous area where the Spanish is sorta funny, too.

He also thinks katydids are good luck.

Posted by: KT at August 26, 2023 01:52 PM (rrtZS)

33 local eatery has fried pickle chips for 15 bucks

or sign that the end is near

Posted by: REDACTED at August 26, 2023 01:52 PM (us2H3)

34 22 On a lark I planted some morning glory seeds. They've gone crazy! I've run strings all over my deck and front porch for them. Lotsa fun to be greeted by "new every morning" blossoms.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at August 26, 2023 01:48 PM (NBVIP)

Can you still buy the seeds? At one point my Dad couldn't buy any and found out the kids were using them to get high (have D-lysergic acid amide, close relative of lysergic acid diethylamide, LSD).

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2023 01:52 PM (ynpvh)

35 JSchuler at August 26, 2023 01:48 PM

Thanks!

Posted by: KT at August 26, 2023 01:53 PM (rrtZS)

36 I keep meaning to start growing poppies so I can produce opium during the Burning Time.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 26, 2023 01:54 PM (aD39U)

37 32 jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2023 01:48 PM

He's from an indigenous area where the Spanish is sorta funny, too.

He also thinks katydids are good luck.

Posted by: KT at August 26, 2023 01:52 PM (rrtZS)

My mom had some of those beliefs. She believed that putting a cicada in a kids mouth when they were babies would make them talk sooner...except my baby brother bit the head off it.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2023 01:54 PM (ynpvh)

38 Perhaps baby brother was just a proponent of WEF.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2023 01:55 PM (ynpvh)

39 That’s an awfully purple tomato! Never seen that before. I’d still be tempted to try it. The older I get the more I love tomatoes. Last night I baked a frozen pizza and sliced up a Roma tomato and threw the slices on it after it came out of the oven.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at August 26, 2023 01:55 PM (f0XAF)

40 The hippie magazines back in the 70's always had ads in the back advertising morning glory seeds and I think Hawaiian rose wood seeds to get high on.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at August 26, 2023 01:55 PM (tRWwW)

41 36 I keep meaning to start growing poppies so I can produce opium during the Burning Time.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 26, 2023 01:54 PM (aD39U)

Poppy seeds have enough in them that at work, we are discouraged from eating poppy-seed bagels a few days before drug testing.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2023 01:56 PM (ynpvh)

42 Milk of the Poppy is good for what ails ye.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 26, 2023 01:57 PM (aD39U)

43 Is this a dill or a tarragon?

https://youtu.be/juxmu2wNFkc?si=BgDuDItz7Rtoz4K-

Posted by: Obligatory Seinfeld Reference at August 26, 2023 01:57 PM (NBVIP)

44 Something I always wanted to find out, and the webz say “Yes”: can I grow apples in TX?

One day I want to try it for no other reason that 1) to try it and 2) because I bloody well love apples.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at August 26, 2023 01:57 PM (f0XAF)

45 Those "succulent" cupcakes are cute as heck, but the frosting has to be scraped off. Sometime in the late 80s or 90s (while I was living abroad), sweets went to eleventy and the cupcake of my youth now looks naked - it's only 2" high and 1/4" of that, at most, is frosting. Maybe that's why I only knew 3 fat kids in school in the 60s and 70s.

Every cookie and muffin had to be oversized and stuffed with a gazillion deluxe ingredients.

Weirdest of all, when I returned in 1996, I saw people walking around with an entire QUART of soda in their hands. WTAF?

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at August 26, 2023 01:57 PM (Mzdiz)

46 39 That’s an awfully purple tomato! Never seen that before. I’d still be tempted to try it. The older I get the more I love tomatoes. Last night I baked a frozen pizza and sliced up a Roma tomato and threw the slices on it after it came out of the oven.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at August 26, 2023 01:55 PM (f0XAF)

Talked to a Phily Eagles fan the other day, asked him about the food they have there. He mentioned they have a place that makes a square pizza with basically cheese on the bread covered in sauce. He said it was very popular there. One day, maybe, I'll find the place and try it...if I'm ever back in the East.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2023 01:58 PM (ynpvh)

47 Sadly mom rabbit took top off my remaining dill that was outside the greenhouse, she got the dill inside a week ago.

Posted by: Skip at August 26, 2023 01:59 PM (MOY79)

48 I have friends that make beer, and one that has started moonshining. They have secured their usefulness in the Post-Apocalyptic Community. I can be the armorer and potato grower, but I might need something else and being the opium provider might be that.

Or growing tobacco.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 26, 2023 02:00 PM (aD39U)

49 Go at night with a UV flashlight to see the hornworms.

Posted by: KT at August 26, 2023 01:50 PM (rrtZS)

I picked two off my MiL's tomato on her deck - that's how I know they're out there now. I haven't visited my tomatoes in a week.

That's what I mean by "broke me."

Haven't planted anything for fall, either. I feel broken.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at August 26, 2023 02:00 PM (Mzdiz)

50 My backyard, here in Galveston, is exposed to mostly to the West. The afternoon sun is absolutely brutal out there.

More than six weeks without appreciable rain, I've got a nice crop of dried grass and dust.

Forecast today up in Houston is for 110f. We oughta be a nice, relatively cool 105f or so here, by comparison.

Oh, and the humidity is way up around the saturation point, too. Trick to living here is mostly; you gotta learn to chew the air before you breathe it.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at August 26, 2023 02:00 PM (e6UQI)

51 One day I want to try it for no other reason that 1) to try it and 2) because I bloody well love apples.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at August 26, 2023 01:57 PM (f0XAF)

Eating apples or cider apples?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 26, 2023 02:00 PM (aD39U)

52 1: I gotta admit I tried some Hatch green Chile cashews and was disappointed. I was expecting some spice, some fireworks. They were very mild.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at August 26, 2023 02:01 PM (f0XAF)

53 KT! is the "seed head" refer to the whole umbrel that has multiple little seed heads? So an immature smaller 3" wide umbrel with all the little sprigs?

Also, I canned the first batch august 13. It's been sitting two weeks as I didn't have the heart to dump just yet. They look pretty on the shelf. So am I too late to refrigerate?

Posted by: Derak at August 26, 2023 02:01 PM (nVYIn)

54 51; eating. Plucking my own apples from the tree to put in a pie.

If possible, that is.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at August 26, 2023 02:02 PM (f0XAF)

55 >>Last night I baked a frozen pizza and sliced up a Roma tomato and threw the slices on it after it came out of the oven.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at August 26, 2023 01:55 PM

I like to use fresh tomatoes on pizza instead of sauce if I have them. Slice them thin, let them drain a bit and put them on top. I never grow Romas, so the ones I use are juicy but very flavorful.

Posted by: huerfano at August 26, 2023 02:02 PM (7zEAH)

56 45 Those "succulent" cupcakes are cute as heck, but the frosting has to be scraped off. Sometime in the late 80s or 90s (while I was living abroad), sweets went to eleventy and the cupcake of my youth now looks naked - it's only 2" high and 1/4" of that, at most, is frosting. Maybe that's why I only knew 3 fat kids in school in the 60s and 70s.

Every cookie and muffin had to be oversized and stuffed with a gazillion deluxe ingredients.

Weirdest of all, when I returned in 1996, I saw people walking around with an entire QUART of soda in their hands. WTAF?

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at August 26, 2023 01:57 PM (Mzdiz)

My BIL, pre-diabetic (or diabetic in denial) will buy a 2L bottle of cola (full sugar) and drink it. Brilliant!

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2023 02:03 PM (ynpvh)

57 Sadly mom rabbit took top off my remaining dill that was outside the greenhouse, she got the dill inside a week ago.

Posted by: Skip

Wabbitt stew fer supper ?

Posted by: JT at August 26, 2023 02:03 PM (T4tVD)

58 57 Sadly mom rabbit took top off my remaining dill that was outside the greenhouse, she got the dill inside a week ago.

Posted by: Skip

Wabbitt stew fer supper ?

Posted by: JT at August 26, 2023 02:03 PM (T4tVD)

Hasenpfeffer

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2023 02:05 PM (ynpvh)

59 My ex wife is a Pepsi addict, she has to have it no matter what. It's like heroin to her. Sad.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at August 26, 2023 02:05 PM (tRWwW)

60 Weirdest of all, when I returned in 1996, I saw people walking around with an entire QUART of soda in their hands. WTAF?

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at August 26, 2023 01:57 PM (Mzdiz)

My BIL, pre-diabetic (or diabetic in denial) will buy a 2L bottle of cola (full sugar) and drink it. Brilliant!
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2023 02:03 PM (ynpvh)

I will admit, I miss the old king size snickers. 800 calories in a single bar.

They were really good for getting through five hour labs.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 26, 2023 02:05 PM (zZu0s)

61 *lights a candle for Mello Yello Zero*

You can still get it from a freestyle coke machine, but not in stores that I have found. Far less sweet tasting than Diet Mtn Dew (which is raw saccharine. Hell, I would not be surprised if they used cyclamate.)

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 26, 2023 02:07 PM (zZu0s)

62 The Primotalli hot pepper looks promising and I'll definitely try one if I can find it. Lately I've steered away from the hot sauces, mostly because they have some sort of an industrialized flavor. Probably because most are a concentrate.

I'm more likely to go after the fruit of a fresh pepper or the dried flakes. And this way I have more control of the delivery of heat.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at August 26, 2023 02:07 PM (KVGVf)

63 Mildly Retarded Lurker, I ain't saying it's aliens.....but it's aliens.

Posted by: Eromero at August 26, 2023 02:07 PM (z3WCn)

64 Wabbitt stew fer supper ?

Posted by: JT at August 26, 2023 02:03 PM (T4tVD)

Hasenpfeffer
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

Gesundheidt !

Posted by: JT at August 26, 2023 02:07 PM (T4tVD)

65 The pictured upside down cake looks tasty. My Dad the baker had a specialty, Roman Apple Cake, that was essentially an upside down cake. Recipes on line are all close with little tricks thrown in. Dad would use a few different apples giving it a sweet and close to sour taste. Heavy on the streusel.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at August 26, 2023 02:08 PM (0EOe9)

66 56: diet is important of course but never forget that in the 60s and 70s (even 80s kids like me) had a thing called “outside” available to them that they all routinely accessed.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at August 26, 2023 02:09 PM (f0XAF)

67 62 The Primotalli hot pepper looks promising and I'll definitely try one if I can find it. Lately I've steered away from the hot sauces, mostly because they have some sort of an industrialized flavor. Probably because most are a concentrate.

I'm more likely to go after the fruit of a fresh pepper or the dried flakes. And this way I have more control of the delivery of heat.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at August 26, 2023 02:07 PM (KVGVf)

I thought, for some of those record-breaking Scoville units, they had to do things like pack the plant with the excrement of worms that eat the leaves of the plant and otherwise stress the plant. If you don't do that you end up with a (slightly) milder version.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2023 02:09 PM (ynpvh)

68 I guess all soda is bad for you, including the diet stuff. Publius goes through a ton of (Splenda) sweet tea and diet cola. He doesn't drink water, really.

Believe me, I'm in no position to nag. He dumped Little Debbie and lost 30 pounds. Now he needs suspenders to keep his pants up.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at August 26, 2023 02:09 PM (Mzdiz)

69 68 I guess all soda is bad for you, including the diet stuff. Publius goes through a ton of (Splenda) sweet tea and diet cola. He doesn't drink water, really.

Believe me, I'm in no position to nag. He dumped Little Debbie and lost 30 pounds. Now he needs suspenders to keep his pants up.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at August 26, 2023 02:09 PM (Mzdiz)

Fake stuff ain't good for you either. When I was on dialysis, I had issues with Splenda when I'd accidentally have a drink with it...my mouth would retain the fake sweet taste, no matter if I brushed my teeth and tongue or not. It once lasted for 3 days.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2023 02:11 PM (ynpvh)

70 I thought, for some of those record-breaking Scoville units, they had to do things like pack the plant with the excrement of worms that eat the leaves of the plant and otherwise stress the plant. If you don't do that you end up with a (slightly) milder version.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2023 02:09 PM (ynpvh)

Pure capsaicin is 16.4 Million scoville heat units. It's crystalline.

Frank's red hot: 6-700 scoville.

Sriracha- 5000 SHU (Scoville Heat Units.)

I think Ghost peppers are 1-2 Million scoville.

You can buy liquid cap to put in products.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 26, 2023 02:12 PM (zZu0s)

71 66 56: diet is important of course but never forget that in the 60s and 70s (even 80s kids like me) had a thing called “outside” available to them that they all routinely accessed.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at A

Absolutely. We used to run around, literally, all the time. Or ride bikes.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at August 26, 2023 02:12 PM (Mzdiz)

72 Pickles made with vinegar should be fine to refrigerate, even that long after. Acidity of the vinegar keeps bad stuff away.

I think pickle barrelpickles are lacto-fermented, meaning brine based.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at August 26, 2023 02:12 PM (ouTlx)

73 Made chil last night with my Anaheim, Chile and a Mariachi peppers and the orange tomatoes, wasn't as hot as previous batches as most were ripe

Posted by: Skip at August 26, 2023 02:13 PM (MOY79)

74 I know that fake sweetener is bad. I think I probably consume way less than he does.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at August 26, 2023 02:13 PM (Mzdiz)

75 The Sriracha company is having trouble making enough product, seems the problem has to something to do with moving their pepper growing operation to Mexico from California.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at August 26, 2023 02:13 PM (tRWwW)

76 Sorry, did not mean to change this to a gainzz/food thread. Will see y'all later!

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at August 26, 2023 02:14 PM (Mzdiz)

77 My maters are winding down now. It was an excelsior growing season, and I made lots of sauce and saved seeds from the top performers. But frankly, I am tomatoed out.

The kale and lettuces are sprouting nicely.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at August 26, 2023 02:14 PM (h3wbV)

78 Here, our cucumbers are done, dead, dying. Was a good run tho'. Zucchini's still pumping out 2-3 a week and the tomatoes are still producing. The Roma's did phenomenal as did the cherry. Still have Jalapeno and green peppers. The black beans will be ready to dry in about 2 weeks. The potatoes will stay in the ground until needed.

And, a bag or two of fresh stuff, delivered to the local liquor store nets a free bottle of Bourbon every so often.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 26, 2023 02:16 PM (Q4IgG)

79 76 Sorry, did not mean to change this to a gainzz/food thread. Will see y'all later!

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at August 26, 2023 02:14 PM (Mzdiz)

KT had cupcakes and cake...so was inevitable. I mean, you don't have a food thread without growing some of the food first!

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2023 02:16 PM (ynpvh)

80 Pecan tree has little pecans growing on it. In another month or soe, the crows will come and start cracking my nuts on my roof and solar panels. Again.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2023 02:17 PM (ynpvh)

81 I was using artificial sweetener in my two cups of morning coffee and all of a sudden the stomach of a shark was getting a little grumbly after 29+ years. Found some cube sugar and one in a cup isn't going to hurt you and no more tummy trouble.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at August 26, 2023 02:18 PM (0EOe9)

82 Sad trombone for the passing of Bob Barker. Watching "The Price Is Right" when faking sick was a joy of my childhood.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at August 26, 2023 02:18 PM (h3wbV)

83 Something I always wanted to find out, and the webz say “Yes”: can I grow apples in TX?
One day I want to try it for no other reason that 1) to try it and 2) because I bloody well love apples.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at August 26, 2023 01:57 PM (f0XAF)

There are apple varieties that will grown in Alabama and the deep south, but you want to check with the extension office and a few nurseries for your particular area, they prefer moisture.

Here I am watching my Gravenstein trees drop apples and my press needs to be rebuilt. Also the pears are dropping and I am getting the first plums falling. I have more fruit that I know what to do with and it is making me very sad to waste it all. I am running out of jars and I have trouble giving it away.
Oh, and it is going to be a terrific grape season too, so there will be lots and lots of juice as well.

The weather has moderated, but the humidity is around 50%. I know the south sneers at that, but normally we only get that humidity when the temperature is in the 50s and it has been raining for a month

Posted by: Kindltot at August 26, 2023 02:19 PM (xhaym)

84 Frank's red hot: can get fu¢ked, I won't put that shit on anything.
Fu¢k their woggy scolding TV ads.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko stuff at August 26, 2023 02:19 PM (U2x9m)

85 I read once that if you plant an apple seed, that you may not get the same kind of apple that it came from, true or not?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at August 26, 2023 02:21 PM (tRWwW)

86 Wife just told me about Bob Barker, mostly watched in summer, no idea why

Posted by: Skip at August 26, 2023 02:22 PM (MOY79)

87 there are apple varieties that need little or no freezing temperatures to flower and produce fruit. If you have one that does need time below freezing, you can spoof it with plenty of ice around the trunk of the tree, or so I'm told, to get the required minimum number of chill hours.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2023 02:23 PM (ynpvh)

88 85 I read once that if you plant an apple seed, that you may not get the same kind of apple that it came from, true or not?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at August 26, 2023 02:21 PM (tRWwW)

Depends what polinated it. Could be a hybrid. Also remember that most fruit trees sold in nurseries are grafted onto rootstock that allows for faster, more robust growth, but is NOT the same variety as the rest of the tree.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2023 02:24 PM (ynpvh)

89 You can buy liquid cap to put in products.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 26, 2023 02:12 PM (zZu0s)

My wife bought Shinzo peppers because she likes preparing them with soy sauce and a few other ingredients when they are green, but she has been so busy the peppers are going red. Last year, at the end of the season I took all the remaining peppers including the cayenne, Korean and jalapenos and chopped them up with garlic and brined them to make fermented hot sauce. It was good, it tasted similar to that Vietnamese chili sauce with the chicken on the label.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 26, 2023 02:25 PM (xhaym)

90 jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2023 02:24 PM

Even if an apple is self-pollinated, it probably will not make fruit like the parent tree because most sweet apples are hybrids. The fruit tree most likely to produce fruit like the parent is certain old-fashioned peach varieties.

Posted by: KT at August 26, 2023 02:27 PM (rrtZS)

91 All the pictures make me hungry and I just ate an hour ago. Bacon, cheese, egg in spinach tortilla.

Posted by: Eromero at August 26, 2023 02:27 PM (z3WCn)

92 There's an update at the bottom of the post.

Posted by: KT at August 26, 2023 02:28 PM (rrtZS)

93 90 jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2023 02:24 PM

Even if an apple is self-pollinated, it probably will not make fruit like the parent tree because most sweet apples are hybrids. The fruit tree most likely to produce fruit like the parent is certain old-fashioned peach varieties.

Posted by: KT at August 26, 2023 02:27 PM (rrtZS)

Yup. Seeds from hybrids, you don't know exactly what you're getting. I got lucky with my pecan tree; someone threw a pecan into my yard, it sprouted, I dug it up and moved it, and 15 years later, pecans!

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2023 02:29 PM (ynpvh)

94 Pretty veggies and flowers.
Ordered timers for the volunteer Palo Verde tree's drip system. I'll have to add emitters to the line we strung too.
Additional timer for the three red bird of paradise plants so they don't stop flowering when we go anywhere for a couple of days.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 26, 2023 02:29 PM (oiERh)

95 I read once that if you plant an apple seed, that you may not get the same kind of apple that it came from, true or not?
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at August 26, 2023 02:21 PM (tRWwW)

This is true, but if you get an apple from an orchard full of nearly identical trees, the chances are that you will be getting a sapling that will be more like the parent trees than some seedling on the side of the road.
To sprout apple seeds you take the seeds and put them in a baggie full of potting soil, and put them in the crisper of your fridge for about 3-4 months. They should be sprouting by then and you can transplant them to pots to grow. They need the cold to sprout.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 26, 2023 02:29 PM (xhaym)

96 89 You can buy liquid cap to put in products.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 26, 2023 02:12 PM (zZu0s)

My wife bought Shinzo peppers because she likes preparing them with soy sauce and a few other ingredients when they are green, but she has been so busy the peppers are going red. Last year, at the end of the season I took all the remaining peppers including the cayenne, Korean and jalapenos and chopped them up with garlic and brined them to make fermented hot sauce. It was good, it tasted similar to that Vietnamese chili sauce with the chicken on the label.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 26, 2023 02:25 PM (xhaym)

Sriracha?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2023 02:29 PM (ynpvh)

97 Sriracha's primary ingredients are pistola sauce (kind of a jalapeno slurry) and garlic.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 26, 2023 02:30 PM (zZu0s)

98 We have lots of "bacon seeds" roaming around here in TX. In fact the little asshoes and bigger ones are all over the southeast.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 26, 2023 02:32 PM (llON8)

99 97 Sriracha's primary ingredients are pistola sauce (kind of a jalapeno slurry) and garlic.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 26, 2023 02:30 PM (zZu0s)

I love the thai chiles, sliced into little coins, then soaked in fish sauce (and soy?). I always pour that stuff on my rice for extra kick.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2023 02:32 PM (ynpvh)

100 98 We have lots of "bacon seeds" roaming around here in TX. In fact the little asshoes and bigger ones are all over the southeast.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 26, 2023 02:32 PM (llON

Harvesting is a bit different.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2023 02:34 PM (ynpvh)

101 In another month or soe, the crows will come and start cracking my nuts on my roof and solar panels. Again.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

That's got to hurt.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 26, 2023 02:35 PM (oiERh)

102 Helena Handbasket, didyou see the Free Goatses Ad on crogslist?

Posted by: Eromero at August 26, 2023 02:35 PM (z3WCn)

103 And to follow up, some of the apple seeds I sprouted were from winter apples I liked that originally had been used for the root stock of some very old apple orchard trees, and some were volunteers from the side of the road, and I picked them specifically because I wanted root stock that survived this climate and soil.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 26, 2023 02:35 PM (xhaym)

104 101 In another month or soe, the crows will come and start cracking my nuts on my roof and solar panels. Again.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

That's got to hurt.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 26, 2023 02:35 PM (oiERh)

indeed. The little peckers.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2023 02:36 PM (ynpvh)

105 I have an pilot acquaintance from Texas who wildly claimed that bacon seeds can be harvested from a helicopter with a high-powered rifle.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at August 26, 2023 02:37 PM (KVGVf)

106 >>> 102 Helena Handbasket, did you see the Free Goatses Ad on crogslist?
Posted by: Eromero at August 26, 2023 02:35 PM (z3WCn)

I did!

I don't think I can handle any more, although I was tempted as it looked like they were all polled or disbudded.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 26, 2023 02:37 PM (llON8)

107 Sad trombone for the passing of Bob Barker. Watching "The Price Is Right" when faking sick was a joy of my childhood.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at August 26, 2023 02:18 PM (h3wbV)

When I was a kid I had no idea how they could know the prices of these things!

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at August 26, 2023 02:37 PM (Mzdiz)

108 >>> 105 I have an pilot acquaintance from Texas who wildly claimed that bacon seeds can be harvested from a helicopter with a high-powered rifle.
Posted by: Dr. Bone at August 26, 2023 02:37 PM (KVGVf)

They can. I imagine it would be expensive, not to mention difficult as both you and the target are moving. afaik there are no limits of any sort on disposing of feral hogs.

...ok maybe no grenades or flamethrowers, but you all know what I mean.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 26, 2023 02:39 PM (llON8)

109 Sriracha?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2023 02:29 PM (ynpvh)

I dunno, I don't think it is Siracha, I think it is Huy Fong Chili Garlic sauce because they don't use jalapenos. It is what the cheaper asian restaurants put out.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 26, 2023 02:40 PM (xhaym)

110 There are at least 2 types of apples that grow and produce here in the low desert. If you plant both varieties you get a much better yield from both trees.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 26, 2023 02:42 PM (oiERh)

111 111 go home.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 26, 2023 02:45 PM (oiERh)

112 >>>They can. I imagine it would be expensive, not to mention difficult as both you and the target are moving. afaik there are no limits of any sort on disposing of feral hogs.

...ok maybe no grenades or flamethrowers, but you all know what I mean.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket

>I have a standing offer until maybe the "law" shuts it down, and this would certainly put it in the adventure category.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at August 26, 2023 02:45 PM (KVGVf)

113 Posted by: www.Payathome7.com at August 26, 2023 02:45 PM (rTeGN)

Sorry, the whoring thread isn't up yet.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2023 02:45 PM (ynpvh)

114 Lows for the week are still above 80, no tomatoes will set at these temps.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 26, 2023 02:47 PM (oiERh)

115 She makes $90 per hour makin' bacon?

Posted by: Eromero at August 26, 2023 02:48 PM (z3WCn)

116 It's been awhile since I have seen any reports of 900 lb Hogzillas, they still out there?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at August 26, 2023 02:48 PM (tRWwW)

117 I've never eaten feral hog and I've also never had bad bacon. How much of a feral hog is edible?

Posted by: Dr. Bone at August 26, 2023 02:50 PM (KVGVf)

118 116 She makes $90 per hour makin' bacon?

Posted by: Eromero at August 26, 2023 02:48 PM (z3WCn)

Beats $20, same as in town.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2023 02:52 PM (ynpvh)

119 118 I've never eaten feral hog and I've also never had bad bacon. How much of a feral hog is edible?

Posted by: Dr. Bone at August 26, 2023 02:50 PM (KVGVf)

Just cook it well to avoid trichinosis.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2023 02:53 PM (ynpvh)

120 feral hog ?

You need the right hammunition.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko stuff at August 26, 2023 02:53 PM (U2x9m)

121 Tinfoilbaby, I had 2 domestic boars, 1 Duroc and 1 Yorkshire each kept right at 750-775. This was over 50 years ago on Purina and natural foraging. Wild hogs eat whatever they want including each other.

Posted by: Eromero at August 26, 2023 02:53 PM (z3WCn)

122 122 Tinfoilbaby, I had 2 domestic boars, 1 Duroc and 1 Yorkshire each kept right at 750-775. This was over 50 years ago on Purina and natural foraging. Wild hogs eat whatever they want including each other.

Posted by: Eromero at August 26, 2023 02:53 PM (z3WCn)

That would make for the baconiest bacon.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2023 02:54 PM (ynpvh)

123 Cat on Cafe last evening was making more

Posted by: Skip at August 26, 2023 02:55 PM (MOY79)

124 >>> 118 I've never eaten feral hog and I've also never had bad bacon. How much of a feral hog is edible?
Posted by: Dr. Bone at August 26, 2023 02:50 PM (KVGVf)

iirc Ben Had says don't bother over 100lbs or so, and there's a reason for the phrase "boar taint". otoh there are a zillion ewetub channels where the hosts both shoot and/or trap and then eat their harvest. You can trap them and feed out the little ones (plus deworm etc!), and those taste fine. I haven't done that either but I'd like to.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 26, 2023 02:55 PM (llON8)

125 125 >>> 118 I've never eaten feral hog and I've also never had bad bacon. How much of a feral hog is edible?
Posted by: Dr. Bone at August 26, 2023 02:50 PM (KVGVf)

iirc Ben Had says don't bother over 100lbs or so, and there's a reason for the phrase "boar taint". otoh there are a zillion ewetub channels where the hosts both shoot and/or trap and then eat their harvest. You can trap them and feed out the little ones (plus deworm etc!), and those taste fine. I haven't done that either but I'd like to.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 26, 2023 02:55 PM (llON

Sounds like the same with goats. The bucks aren't great eats unless gelded when young; way to "gamey". Them bucks, when in season, can be smelled a hundred yards away.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2023 02:59 PM (ynpvh)

126 After the bunnies 🐰 were gone I ripped out all the cucumbers that were done but were hiding the nest a bit, hopefully the tomatoes will get more sun now.

Posted by: Skip at August 26, 2023 03:00 PM (MOY79)

127 (plus deworm etc!)
Posted by: Helena Handbasket

Ivermectin, what can't it do!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 26, 2023 03:00 PM (iEeKD)

128 "Something I always wanted to find out, and the webz say “Yes”: can I grow apples in TX?"

There are lots of orchards in Medina, TX and they have an annual apple festival. No idea of what varieties they grow there, but it sounds like a good starting place for research.

Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at August 26, 2023 03:01 PM (fTtFy)

129 Them bucks, when in season, can be smelled a hundred yards away.

That's racist.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko stuff at August 26, 2023 03:02 PM (U2x9m)

130 130 Them bucks, when in season, can be smelled a hundred yards away.

That's racist.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko stuff at August 26, 2023 03:02 PM (U2x9m)

driving a car around in circles with a bunch of other cars is racist.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2023 03:05 PM (ynpvh)

131 Blackberries this year produced like gangbusters again. Fruit was mildly sweet in one area, but a bit sour in the other bigger area. Probably because I didn't fertilize the area, lazy bastard that I am.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2023 03:06 PM (ynpvh)

132 Milk of the Poppy is good for what ails ye.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 26, 2023 01:57 PM (aD39U)

Yes, that was brother Cadfeals go too medication. Ir worked unless it didn’t

Posted by: Rufus T Firefly at August 26, 2023 03:08 PM (9CJYK)

133 There was a restaurant near Monterey, CA that offered up "wild pig" (hog) when in season. There's a lot of agriculture in the area and even though CA is notorious for being stupid when it comes to things like animal control they allow significant culling of the wild pig populations.

What I've had was sort of a cross between ham and bacon in taste and consistency. Not bad. Not too tough or greasy. Salty. Buttered 'taters and asparagus to accompany it.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 26, 2023 03:09 PM (Q4IgG)

134 My (small urban) backyard is now neat, having removed several pickup truck loads of various organic matter, including a downed palm tree. The rose bush (china roses) is now easily 1/10th of its previous size, and yet already sending out new shoots. No way I can let it get that size again. So I now have a blank slate, so to speak.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at August 26, 2023 03:11 PM (MeG8a)

135 CA is notorious for being stupid when it comes to things like animal control they allow significant culling of the wild pig populations.

Posted by: Martini Farmer

The same culling is allowed for deer in CA when they are eating the bean crops (don't know what type) near Gaviota.
My brother has been invited to 'cull' the herd for the farmer.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 26, 2023 03:12 PM (iEeKD)

136 Thx nosothoreux.

Posted by: Derak at August 26, 2023 03:12 PM (nVYIn)

137 Popular game show host Bob Barker has died at 99

Jungle Gardenia by Tuvaché was unavailable for comment

Posted by: Neo at August 26, 2023 03:14 PM (RovqD)

138 Sad trombone for the passing of Bob Barker. Watching "The Price Is Right" when faking sick was a joy of my childhood.
Posted by: All Hail Eris

An actress !

Posted by: JT at August 26, 2023 03:14 PM (T4tVD)

139 I saw Papa Feral Hogg open for Them Duke Boys at the Macon City Auditorium in 1984.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at August 26, 2023 03:15 PM (KVGVf)

140 Well, I think it is a mushroom, but I wouldn't count on it being edible. Anyone have an ID? It's attractive. But some attractive mushrooms are also deadly.

----------

Some guy lost in the mists of history found out you could get high by licking the back of a toad.

Nothing ventured, nothing gained!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 26, 2023 03:20 PM (jlSKy)

141 Old Bob Barker was a heck of a guy,
made the ladies happy never saw one cry.
Brand new oven to bake that pie,
ate many a piece fore he had to die.
That old man had a whole lot of clout,
mouth off to him ge gonna knock you out.

Posted by: Eromero at August 26, 2023 03:24 PM (z3WCn)

142 Some guy lost in the mists of history found out you could get high by licking the back of a toad.

One of those toads was a character in Dave Barry's Big Trouble.

Posted by: JT at August 26, 2023 03:26 PM (T4tVD)

143 141 Well, I think it is a mushroom, but I wouldn't count on it being edible. Anyone have an ID? It's attractive. But some attractive mushrooms are also deadly.

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Some guy lost in the mists of history found out you could get high by licking the back of a toad.

Nothing ventured, nothing gained!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 26, 2023 03:20 PM (jlSKy)

Can't find it now, but saw a cartoon with a skeleton in a cave, and on the wall, paintings of serveral mushrooms. The first few had green checkmarks underneath them, the last one had no mark or a red X.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2023 03:27 PM (ynpvh)

144 143 Some guy lost in the mists of history found out you could get high by licking the back of a toad.

One of those toads was a character in Dave Barry's Big Trouble.

Posted by: JT at August 26, 2023 03:26 PM (T4tVD)

Licking a toad was recommended before taking "Mr. Toad's Wild Ride"...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2023 03:28 PM (ynpvh)

145 Sad trombone for the passing of Bob Barker. Watching "The Price Is Right" when faking sick was a joy of my childhood.
Posted by: All Hail Eris at August 26, 2023 02:18 PM (h3wbV)
-

Are you my evil twin?

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at August 26, 2023 03:29 PM (adINt)

146 PET NOOD UP

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2023 03:30 PM (ynpvh)

147 PET THREAD IS NOOD

Posted by: Skip at August 26, 2023 03:31 PM (MOY79)

148 The Horde comes through. Thanks for the ID on the 'shroom.
I'm more than a little color blind so when I described it to mushroomologists (before a good pic),I got Eromero's diagnosis of it.

Posted by: Mildly Retarded Lurker at August 26, 2023 03:35 PM (+nxIh)

149 Derak at August 26, 2023 01:43 PM

It would be nice if your recipe specified what they mean by "bunch" and "head" of dill. I just know that I prefer using a smallish immature seed head (an umbel) per quart. I use part of a head if it is large. And since I use immature seed heads, I usually fold them along the sides of the bottles.

Your hot-packed pickles should be fine for a few weeks on the counter or longer in the fridge if they are submerged in brine. If your recipe included vinegar.

I have made refrigerated dill pickles with not much salt, (with regular or raw apple cider vinegar, garlic and 1 cayenne) that were fabulous. Maybe I can find the recipe.

There are other recipes for bread and butter and dill refrigerator pickles linked, and a discussion of harvesting dill in the 9/5/2020 gardening thread.

I have helped my Mom make brined pickles, but they are a lot of work.

Posted by: KT at August 26, 2023 04:08 PM (rrtZS)

150 149 The Horde comes through. Thanks for the ID on the 'shroom.
I'm more than a little color blind so when I described it to mushroomologists (before a good pic),I got Eromero's diagnosis of it.
Posted by: Mildly Retarded Lurker at August 26, 2023 03:35 PM (+nxIh)

Good rule of thumb:

All mushrooms are edible, but most of them are only edible once.

Posted by: Fritzy at August 26, 2023 04:09 PM (LM1wn)

151 Yay, summer is nearly over! Days are still hot but nights a bit cooler. The whole yard looks like h3ll now, it's the same each year.

Every Spring I get the gardening bug, plant all kinds of pretty flowers & a few veggies-- and it all looks fabulous until ~mid-July. Then *poof* it becomes so hot and dry that everything wilts regardless of watering/moving to shade.

Every end-of-summer, I promise myself to NOT DO IT AGAIN next year.

*sigh*

Posted by: JQ at August 26, 2023 04:13 PM (Gkog9)

152 If Catch Thirty Thr33 is still checking in, the Ein Shemer apple is ideal for Texas. It was developed by Israelis and is grown commercially there. It's self pollinating and requires little chill.

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at August 26, 2023 04:46 PM (m3zbh)

153 Texas has several very successful commercial apple orchards, notably Love Creek Orchards near Uvalde. They sell a range of very tasty products.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 26, 2023 05:53 PM (nQ/qz)

154 Re: apples - thanks all! (Takes notes)

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at August 26, 2023 06:28 PM (f0XAF)

155 From Boise area: Lows 61-70 F, highs 75-91. Tail of Hilary made it up here; we had rain on and off Sat. night, to Tues. evening thunderstorm - then more thunder/rain Fri. morning.

Picking green beans, SunGold cherry tomatoes, ever-bearing strawberries, chokecherries - occasional paste and slicing tomatoes. Found a small black snake hiding under the tomato-marigold bed.

Repotted 2 hydrangeas, gifts from friends for my 1st knee replacement surgery.

Husband had to call the gopher exterminators back in - the little buggers keep coming from the horse pasture behind us, by crossing the canal whenever the water's low.

Still in physical therapy after 1st knee surgery. Some garden tasks still a bit of a challenge.
(part 1)

Posted by: Pat* at August 26, 2023 06:36 PM (wd7fb)

156 In case 85 Tinfoilbaby is still here, and everybody is not already bored stiff about the apple seeds issue: It caught my attention because knowing this, is part of how I got a top score on the AP Biology exam, many many years ago.

The flesh of the fruit, is the swollen ovary of the flower. It's genetically part of the parent tree. The seeds were fertilized by unknown pollen, so are not genetically the same as the parent tree.

That said, if indeed there's a big orchard with just one variety of apple tree, then the chances are better that the pollen came from that same variety. You still don't know whether the parent tree was grafted onto a different rootstock, so there's no guarantee the tree you grow from seed will grow as well as the parent tree.
(part 2/end)

Posted by: Pat* at August 26, 2023 06:42 PM (wd7fb)

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