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Ghosts of New York

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This past Thursday, I returned to my hometown, New York City, for the first time in just over a year and it's both surreal and depressing. The change from even just a year ago, in terms of just how low the city has deteriorated is shocking. Vacant stores abound, the stench of marijuana is omnipresent as well as at least two or three vagrants doped out, passed out or otherwise shambling around like zombies on almost every corner. I have been on the subways as well as the Long Island Railroad at least twice a day since I arrived and mercifully, I've not encountered any Michael Jackson impersonators, sane or otherwise, or packs of racist she-devils of the pigmented variety sporting to bash a white guy in the face in the name of justice, or something.

In the immortal words of Dr. Bones McCoy, "It's dead, Jim." Strange though in that while still living here in the aftermath of the lockdowns and the mostly peaceful rioting of 2020, I was inured to all of it or perhaps accepted it as par for the course. And then, I remembered the golden age of the Giuliani into early Bloomberg era and thought, "What the hell am I thinking?!" Even without the nearly instantaneous decline and fall as soon as DeBolshevik assumed control, New York had been undergoing drastic change since before 9/11 and certainly in its aftermath. Overdevelopment and the destruction of the "neighborhood-ness" of even Manhattan, where you still had one-off mom-and-pop type businesses changed the essence of the city, and not for the better. Then, there's the cost of living. It was never cheap but even in my younger days, you could still get by on minimal salary. Not anymore. I went and had two appetizers and a glass of wine at one of the few regular restaurants the wife and I frequented and it was $75.00.

I do understand that things change. It's inevitable. On the other side of the spectrum, preservation can even go too far and stifle necessary growth. But, that's not really the case with this town. Horrendous politics, insane schemes to inhibit vehicular traffic, corruption and of course leftist liberal social policies that have once more brought the city to the brink of ruin have made leaving this place a no-brainer.

Still, as I walked a mile or so downtown from my hotel – itself a bizarre experience – to my former apartment, I had the urge to reach in my pocket for my keys to go upstairs, make a coffee, kick off my shoes and get on the computer. Until I realized . . .

Walking the streets, I felt like Bruce Willis in 6th Sense trying unsuccessfully to turn the door knob. A ghost lost in a world that once was. And that's the problem: I want to come back to New York but it's impossible because the New York I want to come back to is no more. Aside from my last surviving nonagenarian relatives and a handful of schoolmates, there is nothing for me here, but memories.

It's sad. I wanted to live out the rest of my life here, but it was not to be. Despite everything, I hope that this incredible place somehow can rise again. Then again, the rest of the country is heading in the same direction.

Oh well. One more day and then I depart for my new home. But, you can take the kid out of Brooklyn, but you'll never take Brooklyn out of the kid.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at 12:00 PM




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1 first.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 14, 2023 12:04 PM (QNSds)

2 sponge

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 14, 2023 12:04 PM (LvTSG)

3 WTF? Over.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 14, 2023 12:05 PM (nW4TA)

4 They are gonna have to let it burn down before it can come back. That and they will need to find another guilanni.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 14, 2023 12:05 PM (QNSds)

5 Weird, the N.Y. politicians are eating pizza on stairways now?

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 14, 2023 12:05 PM (zbP2D)

6 In the immortal words of Dr. Bones McCoy, "It's dead, Jim." Strange though in that while still living here in the aftermath of the lockdowns and the mostly peaceful rioting of 2020, I was inured to all of it or perhaps accepted it as par for the course. And then, I remembered the golden age of the Giuliani into early Bloomberg era and thought, "What the hell am I thinking?!"
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"Inured" is a good word for it. I see this with my colleagues who live in San Francisco. They talk about the crime, the filth, etc., but shrug it all off. Just life in the big city.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 14, 2023 12:07 PM (WkNQM)

7 Try walking through downtown Portland...

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 14, 2023 12:07 PM (2tUFv)

8 look, don't you go shaming that rat who's simply trying to feed his 4 teenaged boys while living in the sewer...

Posted by: SturmToddler at August 14, 2023 12:07 PM (KZaqS)

9 Where are you headed?

Posted by: Archimedes at August 14, 2023 12:07 PM (eOEVl)

10 Perhaps NYC hasn't decayed that fast in a year, but your perspective has changed due to living in a (somewhat) more normal locale.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 14, 2023 12:08 PM (lTGtQ)

11 It's sad. I wanted to live out the rest of my life here, but it was not to be. Despite everything, I hope that this incredible place somehow can rise again. Then again, the rest of the country is heading in the same direction.
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NYC has a history of being reborn. Does it have another one it?

I guess time will tell.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 14, 2023 12:08 PM (WkNQM)

12 This past Thursday, I returned to my hometown, New York City, for the first time in just over a year and it's both surreal and depressing.

Well, rats.

Posted by: You really can't go home again at August 14, 2023 12:08 PM (upfUC)

13 Happy Birthday JJ!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at August 14, 2023 12:08 PM (xcxpd)

14 In the immortal words of Dr. Bones McCoy, "It's dead, Jim." Strange though in that while still living here in the aftermath of the lockdowns and the mostly peaceful rioting of 2020, I was inured to all of it or perhaps accepted it as par for the course.

And then, I remembered the golden age of the Giuliani

Sad that the denizens didn't want to keep that.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 14, 2023 12:08 PM (nW4TA)

15 Well, at least that rat is gonna eat well.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 14, 2023 12:09 PM (xTRSc)

16 look, don't you go shaming that rat who's simply trying to feed his 4 teenaged boys while living in the sewer...
Posted by: SturmToddler at August 14, 2023 12:07 PM (KZaqS)
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LOL.

Except I suspect that those boys are more on the supply side of crime...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 14, 2023 12:09 PM (WkNQM)

17 There are people on the Right who are saying that those of us who think we are not winning are missing the picture. So many wins on the board!

There's finally a Special Counsel for Hunter!

They suggest that this means Biden is over. OVER!

Yeah, no.

Posted by: blaster at August 14, 2023 12:09 PM (Jk9SN)

18 Ah, you "returned". Where are you now?

Posted by: Archimedes at August 14, 2023 12:09 PM (eOEVl)

19 It's sad. I wanted to live out the rest of my life here, but it was not to be. Despite everything, I hope that this incredible place somehow can rise again.


New York, or America?

Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 14, 2023 12:09 PM (lTGtQ)

20 NYC has a history of being reborn. Does it have another one it?

I guess time will tell.
Posted by: Joe Mannix


Not within the next couple of generations.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 14, 2023 12:10 PM (nW4TA)

21 look, don't you go shaming that rat who's simply trying to feed his 4 teenaged boys while living in the sewer..

In the Trump years, he used to be able to take half a pizza back to his family.

Posted by: t-bird at August 14, 2023 12:10 PM (CaJIi)

22 I know exactly how you feel JJ. I had the same experience on the other side of the country, being a Los Angeles native. I went back to my hometown, a suburb of L.A called Santa Clarita, a couple of years ago. I had move to N. Idaho long before and had to live in L.A. for a 4 month contract in 2021. Stopped through Santa Clarita and didn't even recognize the place. My hometown exists only in my memory.

Posted by: Croaker at August 14, 2023 12:10 PM (WVllD)

23 This makes me so sad. I wonder if my kids' generation have any idea what they have lost. They seem so insulated from the ongoing loss of freedom and what it will mean in the future.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 14, 2023 12:10 PM (t/2Uw)

24 I'm sad for the pizza slice.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 14, 2023 12:10 PM (aD39U)

25 nsider Paper @TheInsiderPaper 3h
NEW - French police have launched an investigation into two bomb scares at the Eiffel Tower this weekend that forced the monument to be evacuated twice in the same day, prosecutors said
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Booooomb threats??

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at August 14, 2023 12:10 PM (krqg6)

26 When you live somewhere for awhile, you don't notice the changes taking place all around you in your AO, they just do. Then when you leave and come back to an old AO after a year or three, you notice every little change, alteration and disappeared things which are frozen in your memory.

Breathe In, Breathe Out, Move On...

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 14, 2023 12:10 PM (0XsSe)

27 look, don't you go shaming that rat who's simply trying to feed his 4 teenaged boys while living in the sewer..

In the Trump years, he used to be able to take half a pizza back to his family.
Posted by: t-bird at August 14, 2023 12:10 PM (CaJIi)
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Even the rats are suffering under Bidenflation.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 14, 2023 12:11 PM (YIVH2)

28 Wistful. I'm glad you got out, J.J.

I haven't been back to Boston since the late 90s and I'll likely never go back even to visit. As you're illustrated, what I left isn't there anymore.

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at August 14, 2023 12:11 PM (kjOVp)

29 New Yorkers voted for this. They wanted it.

Democracy must be honored, we keep hearing, and so America supports the coming collapse.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 14, 2023 12:11 PM (T+YTi)

30 I was in NYC once, in the summer of 2005, and I have to say, I really enjoyed it. It had obvious flaws, but it was still clean and recognizably American then (and I found the people actually much less rude than the ones we encountered in Boston a few days later).

It's truly sad to see a once-great city deteriorate like that. But, this is what they voted for.

Posted by: Dr. T at August 14, 2023 12:11 PM (bhRsz)

31 "You can never go home again."

I tried it once. A long time ago. Went back to my neighborhood in MoCo MD.

Did not recognize it. 3rd world shit hole some 35 years ago.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 14, 2023 12:11 PM (Q4IgG)

32 Willowed. But I think it also fits here. I live in deep flyover country. Things are not good here either.
316 My sis, Bro-in-law and I were talking about all the self service checkouts in Walmart and how no one seems to go to the actual checker lanes anymore.

I said, "When you only have a few things self serve is faster. When was the last time you saw lines of people at Walmart with carts full? "

How is it in your areas, Walmart Shoppers? Or even grocery store shoppers? Do you see carts full like you used to? Used to be common to see someone buying a week or two worth of stuff. Now most people walk out with what they can carry out in two hands.

Still a hundred+ bucks worth though, right?
Posted by: Just Lily at August 14, 2023 12:08 PM (RLLZj)

Posted by: Just Lily at August 14, 2023 12:11 PM (RLLZj)

33 A resurgent NYC would only be welcome on one condition:

The denizens revolted in such a way that the old ways (i.e., current ways) never come back.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 14, 2023 12:11 PM (KbCG3)

34 look, don't you go shaming that rat who's simply trying to feed his 4 teenaged boys while living in the sewer...
Posted by: SturmToddler at August 14, 2023 12:07 PM (KZaqS)
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LOL.

Except I suspect that those boys are more on the supply side of crime...
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 14, 2023 12:09 PM (WkNQM)

you mean shredder won, and the turtles are bad guys now?

I tell you, these reboots are ruining EVERYTHING that was good in our younger days...

Posted by: SturmToddler at August 14, 2023 12:11 PM (KZaqS)

35 Willowed: "They just finished building a new lake up by where Rick and I live NE of Dallas. There was an auction that had 92 lots for sale and over 800 people showed up. Multiple 1 acre lake front lots went for $1,000,000 each. It's insane."

What do you mean built a lake?

Posted by: Minnfidel at August 14, 2023 12:11 PM (GwxCX)

36 In the Preston & Child novel Reliquary, the authors give us a sneak peek into to the underground civilization that "thrives" (in some fashion) beneath the streets. Several layers deep.

Wonder how may people have fled to the undercity these days...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 14, 2023 12:12 PM (YIVH2)

37 Tee hee!

Posted by: Hochul, Adams, and NY voters at August 14, 2023 12:12 PM (pHPwR)

38 You want to compare changes?

Try going back to Youngstown after leaving in the 70's before the SHTF.

The park is still nice though.

Posted by: pawn at August 14, 2023 12:13 PM (wsHtO)

39 Long ago read a full study on the Rats of NY, where they live, ate and habits, was quite interesting

Posted by: Skip at August 14, 2023 12:13 PM (H0hXt)

40 Perhaps NYC hasn't decayed that fast in a year, but your perspective has changed due to living in a (somewhat) more normal locale.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 14, 2023 12:08 PM (lTGtQ)
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A bit of both, I reckon. When I went back to Denver after a little while, it was both for me. It did get worse. More bums. More graffiti. More dirt. More boarded up windows. More weird laws like banning grocery bags and charging a mandatory fee for paper. That was worse.

It also hit me as I was fighting the insane traffic and the blazing heat, "this is infuriating. How did I put up with this every day?!" It was not meaningfully worse, but it struck me how bad it was because I had the benefit of being out of it for a goodly while. It wasn't the only example.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 14, 2023 12:13 PM (WkNQM)

41 Nothing is "coming back". We are in an extended Judgement Day, face increasing division and mayhem, which will culminate in the actual end of the world in 2033. Plan accordingly.

Posted by: Born in Brooklyn Too at August 14, 2023 12:13 PM (83IzV)

42 New York City is such a cruel (trans) mistress.

Hope you make it back to us safe and sound.

Posted by: Crazy to be sane at August 14, 2023 12:13 PM (1WSeq)

43 I want to come back to New York but it's impossible because the New York I want to come back to is no more

===

*Sigh

I feel your pain.

Posted by: runner at August 14, 2023 12:13 PM (EHNgd)

44 The country we grew up in no longer exists.

Posted by: brak at August 14, 2023 12:13 PM (25k9m)

45 I live in the South Bronx by choice. I grew up here. I'm not leaving

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 14, 2023 12:13 PM (RqMSv)

46 I watch seasoned citizens put groceries back on the shelf. Sad.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 14, 2023 12:13 PM (TZ75n)

47 Willowed: "They just finished building a new lake up by where Rick and I live NE of Dallas. There was an auction that had 92 lots for sale and over 800 people showed up. Multiple 1 acre lake front lots went for $1,000,000 each. It's insane."

What do you mean built a lake?


Dan Snyder (ex-Redskins owner) has his waterfront in NoVa up for sale, and he just cut the price from $49M to $35M. It's a steal!

Posted by: Archimedes at August 14, 2023 12:13 PM (eOEVl)

48 It's sad when you have memories of your home town, visit, and find things in a state of despair. I know this, being from the Ohio rust belt. About six months, out of the blue, my cousin calls. "Bill, what was that place we went to that had the great garlic chicken?". Told him, looked it up on line, and Closed, for keeps. You know how you get that album on line of similar places? Closed, closed, closed. My old town is one of parking lots with weeds growing through the asphalt.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at August 14, 2023 12:13 PM (0EOe9)

49 What do you mean built a lake?

almost every lake in Texas is man-made with a dam

Posted by: brak at August 14, 2023 12:13 PM (25k9m)

50 Overdevelopment and the destruction of the "neighborhood-ness" of even Manhattan, where you still had one-off mom-and-pop type businesses changed the essence of the city,

Manhattan developers, having accomplished the destruction of NYC, are now continuing that process in Philadelphia.

Progress!

Posted by: kallisto at August 14, 2023 12:14 PM (dCxaZ)

51 Maybe its time to bring in Snake Plissken.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 14, 2023 12:14 PM (VwHCD)

52 New York isn't the only place that's dead.

And because the dead cities run this country (with zombie ballots!) we're all going to be joining them soon.

Rejoice!

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 14, 2023 12:14 PM (zjgNU)

53 What do you mean built a lake?

Posted by: Minnfidel



There is only one lake in Texas. All of the rest are built. Dam a river, and let it fill up.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 14, 2023 12:14 PM (lTGtQ)

54 Horrendous politics, insane schemes to inhibit vehicular traffic, corruption and of course leftist liberal social policies that have once more brought the city to the brink of ruin have made leaving this place a no-brainer.

Wait. Is this NYC, Detroit, LA, San Francisco, Chicago, Minneapolis, or London?

Posted by: Rob Crawford at August 14, 2023 12:14 PM (Rrhb6)

55 Also, Kathleen Kennedy is selling her Malibu house, presumably to leave CA. Whatever could that portend?

Posted by: Archimedes at August 14, 2023 12:14 PM (eOEVl)

56 What do you mean built a lake?
Posted by: Minnfidel at August 14, 2023 12:11 PM (GwxCX)


Put up a dam/ Built a reservoir. I wish it was simple to do here.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 14, 2023 12:14 PM (xhaym)

57 How is it in your areas, Walmart Shoppers? Or even grocery store shoppers? Do you see carts full like you used to? Used to be common to see someone buying a week or two worth of stuff. Now most people walk out with what they can carry out in two hands.

Still a hundred+ bucks worth though, right?
Posted by: Just Lily at August 14, 2023 12:08 PM (RLLZj)

Posted by: Just Lily at August 14, 2023 12:11 PM


The only time I see carts at Walmart with more than a few things in them is on social security Wednesdays and the day when the EBT cards get loaded.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 14, 2023 12:15 PM (QNSds)

58 It all depends on where you live in big cities. The affluent residential areas have largely been cordoned off from the dysfunction of the rest of the city. Guess where the politicians and decision-makers live? Nothing will ever change -- indeed, it will only get worse -- so long as the decision-makers feel no pain from their terrible decisions.

Note that this is not a phenomena confined to big cities or even blue cities. Travel to deep-red areas and you will see nice, affluent, safe residential areas only a few miles from dirty, dangerous shitholes. Where do you think the decision-makers live in these areas?

Posted by: Elric Blade at August 14, 2023 12:15 PM (iFTx/)

59
Still a hundred+ bucks worth though, right?

Posted by: Just Lily at August 14, 2023 12:11 PM


I've gotten so much stronger in the biden economy

I can now carry $100+ worth of groceries from the truck to the kitchen in one trip, where it used to take at least two or maybe three trips

Posted by: AltonJackson at August 14, 2023 12:15 PM (ENBF0)

60 I want to come back to New York but it's impossible because the New York I want to come back to is no more

That one resonates with me. I miss the SoCal area I was born and raised in, but that place is long gone.

Posted by: Halfhand at August 14, 2023 12:15 PM (YN2f1)

61 Yeah but where else can you get Ethiopian food delivered at 3 in the morning? You stupid inbred toothless flyover MAGA country hicks probably never even HEARD of Ethiopia!

Posted by: Some really annoying New York uber alles type at August 14, 2023 12:15 PM (upfUC)

62 We're going to need more than one Snake Plissken.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 14, 2023 12:15 PM (TZ75n)

63 We sound like our parents and grands crabbing about how things are different these days, and not for the better.

We have grown old.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 14, 2023 12:15 PM (IaTa3)

64 I live in the South Bronx by choice. I grew up here. I'm not leaving
Posted by: Ignoramus at August 14, 2023 12:13 PM (RqMSv)
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https://youtu.be/w-pXyOp44Po?t=13

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 14, 2023 12:15 PM (WkNQM)

65 My sis, Bro-in-law and I were talking about all the self service checkouts in Walmart and how no one seems to go to the actual checker lanes anymore.

I said, "When you only have a few things self serve is faster. When was the last time you saw lines of people at Walmart with carts full? "

Posted by: Just Lily at August 14, 2023 12:11 PM (RLLZj)

In my local Walmart there are two "pens" of self-checkout scanners. There are still checkout aisles that are manned by workers but very few are ever open.

Went in the other day and noticed that in addition to the pens, the traditional aisles had been converted to self-checkouts. The scanners were pointing outward with no spot for a cashier anymore.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 14, 2023 12:15 PM (KbCG3)

66 I'm so sorry JJ

I know the feeling

fortunately (?!?) my lovely former Philly apartment is now gone and massive 5-story flat-faced apt block is there now. those things are EVERYWHERE in Philadelphia now. to maximize space, you lose steps, character, anything but just flat gray box.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 14, 2023 12:16 PM (AcWfM)

67 How is it in your areas, Walmart Shoppers? Or even grocery store shoppers? Do you see carts full like you used to?

I noted yesterday that Burning Man, the techno-hippie festival in Nevada every Labor Day that turned into Silicon Valley's premier networking event, sold out this year as usual, but there are suddenly a ton of people trying to sell their tickets (which are several hundred dollars each).

Layoffs in the tech sector and Bidenonomics.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 14, 2023 12:16 PM (2tUFv)

68
Well, at least that rat is gonna eat well.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus


Wait till he gets the bill!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 14, 2023 12:16 PM (63Dwl)

69 How is it in your areas, Walmart Shoppers? Or even grocery store shoppers? Do you see carts full like you used to? Used to be common to see someone buying a week or two worth of stuff. Now most people walk out with what they can carry out in two hands.

Still a hundred+ bucks worth though, right?
Posted by: Just Lily at August 14, 2023 12:08 PM (RLLZj)

i agree with this to one extent, but i do see a lot more full carts on the weekend of the 1st and 15th.

between benefits and military paydays, those are the crowded days at the store, still.

but i suspect many more people are hitting up the sams club, costco, etc to take advantage of bulk buying.

tho, i DO also see a lot more people, and full cats in the local Aldi's than i ever did before.

Posted by: SturmToddler at August 14, 2023 12:16 PM (KZaqS)

70 It's sad when you have memories of your home town, visit, and find things in a state of despair. I know this, being from the Ohio rust belt. About six months, out of the blue, my cousin calls. "Bill, what was that place we went to that had the great garlic chicken?". Told him, looked it up on line, and Closed, for keeps. You know how you get that album on line of similar places? Closed, closed, closed. My old town is one of parking lots with weeds growing through the asphalt.

Posted by: bill in arkansas



Just for grins one day, I looked up my old grade school. Closed in the 1990s, and sat empty for years, then torn down. Only an empty lot remains.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 14, 2023 12:16 PM (lTGtQ)

71 On the positive side it's a golden age for rats in NYC....

Posted by: steevy at August 14, 2023 12:16 PM (FQmDC)

72 What do you mean built a lake?

almost every lake in Texas is man-made with a dam
Posted by: brak at August 14, 2023 12:13 PM

Ah, got it. I am spoiled in that sense I guess. There's a few things that don't suck about living here. Lakes and forests everywhere is one of them. Other than that, meh.

Posted by: Minnfidel at August 14, 2023 12:16 PM (GwxCX)

73 Thanks for the insider perspective, JJ ... we're gonna keep prayin' until you're home safe & sound!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - these lying liars have been lying for decades at August 14, 2023 12:16 PM (vbuLV)

74 54 Horrendous politics, insane schemes to inhibit vehicular traffic, corruption and of course leftist liberal social policies that have once more brought the city to the brink of ruin have made leaving this place a no-brainer.

Wait. Is this NYC, Detroit, LA, San Francisco, Chicago, Minneapolis, or London?
Posted by: Rob Crawford at August 14, 2023 12:14 PM (Rrhb6)

Yes.

Posted by: Aiming pretty broadly there at August 14, 2023 12:17 PM (upfUC)

75 You stupid inbred toothless flyover MAGA country hicks probably never even HEARD of Ethiopia!

We prefer the term “Abyssinian”.

Posted by: Ethiopian Restaurants at August 14, 2023 12:17 PM (EXyHK)

76 36 In the Preston & Child novel Reliquary, the authors give us a sneak peek into to the underground civilization that "thrives" (in some fashion) beneath the streets. Several layers deep.

Wonder how may people have fled to the undercity these days...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 14, 2023 12:12 PM (YIVH2)

CHUDs too

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at August 14, 2023 12:17 PM (xcxpd)

77 We are in an extended Judgement Day, face increasing division and mayhem, which will culminate in the actual end of the world in 2033.

If I had five cents for every prediction of the "end of days", I'd be richer than Elon.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at August 14, 2023 12:17 PM (Rrhb6)

78 63 We sound like our parents and grands crabbing about how things are different these days, and not for the better.

We have grown old.


maybe? but no

we are a diaspora! we are "griping" like Jewish families talking about living in Germany

it's not just "being old"

Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 14, 2023 12:17 PM (AcWfM)

79 What do you mean built a lake?
Posted by: Minnfidel at August 14, 2023 12:11 PM (GwxCX)

Put up a dam/ Built a reservoir. I wish it was simple to do here.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 14, 2023 12:14 PM


Pretty easy to do here in Texas. They just finished the Bois D'arc lake and they are already building another one in our county. I think they are calling it Ralph Hall lake or something like that.


Dallas/Fort Worth is growing by leaps and bounds and needs water. These two new lakes are supposed to fulfill their water needs for the next 50 years.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 14, 2023 12:17 PM (QNSds)

80 Layoffs in the tech sector and Bidenonomics.

A trillion dollars in credit card debt at 25% interest rates.

That will work out well.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 14, 2023 12:17 PM (2tUFv)

81 Glad we got rid of that place when we did. And we’ve gotten a lot of use out of that $24 worth of beads over the years.

Posted by: The Indians at August 14, 2023 12:17 PM (xTRSc)

82 You stupid inbred toothless flyover MAGA country hicks probably never even HEARD of Ethiopia!

Sam Kinnison had a great bit about it.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at August 14, 2023 12:17 PM (Rrhb6)

83 ... I noted yesterday that Burning Man, the techno-hippie festival in Nevada every Labor Day that turned into Silicon Valley's premier networking event, sold out this year as usual, but there are suddenly a ton of people trying to sell their tickets (which are several hundred dollars each). ...
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 14, 2023 12:16 PM (2tUFv)
++++
Only for the plebes. The heavy hitters in Big Tech go to the rich guy version of Burning Man called, "Further Future." Or at least, they used to:
https://archive.is/hdFZv

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 14, 2023 12:17 PM (WkNQM)

84 What do you mean built a lake?


Texas has one natural lake. Caddo Mills Lake. All the others are man made impoundments for water supply for D/FW, Houston, SA. and surrounding burbs.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 14, 2023 12:18 PM (nW4TA)

85 But, you can take the kid out of Brooklyn, but you'll never take Brooklyn out of the kid.
===
*dusty*

Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 14, 2023 12:18 PM (JvZF+)

86 Gerbil!

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 14, 2023 12:18 PM (4I/2K)

87 Yeah but where else can you get Ethiopian food delivered at 3 in the morning? You stupid inbred toothless flyover MAGA country hicks probably never even HEARD of Ethiopia!
Posted by: Some really annoying New York uber alles type at August 14, 2023 12:15 PM (upfUC)


Why pay to get Ethiopian food delivered when you can just go outside and scrape up a handful of gravel yourself?

Posted by: Dr. T at August 14, 2023 12:18 PM (bhRsz)

88
as well as at least two or three vagrants doped out, passed out or otherwise shambling around like zombies on almost every corner.



Did anyone else read that as "vegans" instead of vagrants?

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 14, 2023 12:18 PM (n+4am)

89 I want to come back to New York but it's impossible because the New York I want to come back to is no more

We have GOT to rebuild the cities and get them straightened out so the city people can go home.

Posted by: t-bird at August 14, 2023 12:19 PM (CaJIi)

90
So, that's Domino's new NYC Exclusive "Deliver a Slice' Service.

Nice!

Posted by: naturalfake at August 14, 2023 12:19 PM (QzZeQ)

91 63 We sound like our parents and grands crabbing about how things are different these days, and not for the better.

We have grown old.
Posted by: Tonypete at August 14, 2023 12:15 PM (IaTa3)

Except we aren't complaining about music or fashion trends like our folks did. Things actually are going to shit right in front of us, and destroying our country on a foundational level.

Posted by: Devil music! It's devil music what done it! at August 14, 2023 12:19 PM (upfUC)

92 JJ, I see the desolation of NYC every time I take the bus into the office. I work in Rockefeller Centre and the bus comes out of the Battery Tunnel ( I will NEVER call it the Hugh L Carey tunnel) to the FDR drive to 23rd Street to 6th Ave to my building.

I have seen many closed business's along the route and homeless people sleeping or shuffling along the sidewalks.
And the smell of marijuana is every where. Guess the govt wants the people to forget how shitty their lives are.

The area where I work is pretty clean and I do not see many homeless, but I guess because I am in a tourist spot they City tries to make it presentable to the visitors.

2028 is when I hope to evacuate this hell hole. Cannot

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at August 14, 2023 12:19 PM (qoLdL)

93 What do you mean built a lake?

almost every lake in Texas is man-made with a dam
Posted by: brak at August 14, 2023 12:13 PM

Ah, got it. I am spoiled in that sense I guess. There's a few things that don't suck about living here. Lakes and forests everywhere is one of them. Other than that, meh.

Posted by: Minnfidel at August 14, 2023 12:16 PM


Texas has no large natural lakes. Just a bunch of large ponds that they call lakes.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 14, 2023 12:19 PM (QNSds)

94 My life fades. The vision dims. All that remains are memories. I remember a time of chaos, ruined dreams, this wasted city.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 14, 2023 12:19 PM (aD39U)

95 I've gotten so much stronger in the biden economy

I can now carry $100+ worth of groceries from the truck to the kitchen in one trip, where it used to take at least two or maybe three trips
Posted by: AltonJackson at August 14, 2023 12:15 PM (ENBF0)

That's about right. I went to Aldi's this weekend, and was surprised I came in under $250 for the family trip - I was $249.20. As the cashier said (since he heard me talking to the spouse about the number), every little bit counts...

And even then, it was only 1/2 of the week's dinner proteins, although I am planning an almost meat/fish free meal of pasta putanesca one night - olives were on a big sale and I have capers and sardines to use (yes, going sardines b/c they are way cheaper than anchovy, although I will add a little anchovy paste, too, and this is cheap night dinner)...

Posted by: Nova Local at August 14, 2023 12:19 PM (exHjb)

96 It's sad. I wanted to live out the rest of my life here, but it was not to be. Despite everything, I hope that this incredible place somehow can rise again.

---------

My condolences, J.J.

Had to accept this about my beloved and formerly Golden State a decade ago.

"You call someplace paradise
Kiss It goodbye ..."

Posted by: ShainS -- Misinflation, Disinflation, & Malinflation Researcher at August 14, 2023 12:19 PM (AlCoY)

97 We have GOT to rebuild the cities and get them straightened out so the city people can go home.

That won't happen with the same set of people. They are the problem, not the city.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 14, 2023 12:19 PM (eOEVl)

98 Escape 2000 - Leave The Bronx

I can stream it on Prime. Looks so bad it could be good.

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 14, 2023 12:19 PM (RqMSv)

99 "Oh well. One more day and then I depart for my new home. "

I think you meant the other Leftist Shithole I traded for this one.

Posted by: Amirite? at August 14, 2023 12:19 PM (x2VUt)

100 When I left over 30 years ago I lost a sense of place that has yet to be regained.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 14, 2023 12:19 PM (JvZF+)

101 67 How is it in your areas, Walmart Shoppers? Or even grocery store shoppers? Do you see carts full like you used to?

I noted yesterday that Burning Man, the techno-hippie festival in Nevada every Labor Day that turned into Silicon Valley's premier networking event, sold out this year as usual, but there are suddenly a ton of people trying to sell their tickets (which are several hundred dollars each).

Layoffs in the tech sector and Bidenonomics.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 14, 2023 12:16 PM (2tUFv)
__________

I think that's more a function of how hard it is to get tickets. There's some dumb raffle or randomized lottery to get the "public" tickets. So a lot of scalpers get tickets with the intent to resell them. Was always thus.

Burning Man is actually pretty cool and -- if you do it right -- a fun time. Once. I most likely would not do it again.

Posted by: Elric Blade at August 14, 2023 12:19 PM (iFTx/)

102 I'll just pretend the animal dragging the pizza slice is an ugly squirrel.

Posted by: runner at August 14, 2023 12:20 PM (EHNgd)

103 We sound like our parents and grands crabbing about how things are different these days, and not for the better.

We have grown old.
Posted by: Tonypete at August 14, 2023 12:15 PM (IaTa3)


Doesn't wash; I've been saying that since I was 17.

Posted by: Dr. T at August 14, 2023 12:20 PM (bhRsz)

104 Actually, 40 years ago.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 14, 2023 12:20 PM (JvZF+)

105 Dallas/Fort Worth is growing by leaps and bounds and needs water. These two new lakes are supposed to fulfill their water needs for the next 50 years.

cut that projection in half with the numbers coming over the border

Posted by: brak at August 14, 2023 12:20 PM (25k9m)

106 On that note, I recently went home to my hometown.

It's a little smaller than New York. Ok, it's 3,000 people.


It's also dying. I don't think it can actually die so long as people need food- it is an important location on a major river and has what used to be several grain elevators (now only two companies) shipping grain to the gulf of Mexico.

But there is little else there. There are much fewer children there than when I was little.

The car dealership has very few cars any more.

The town once had several factories supplying industrial parts. (I worked at one as a high-schooler. I didn't last a week. It was a hard, HOT job.)

They are all gone. There's really nothing there for anyone who isn't a farmer (and those are ALSO being taken over by massive corporations.)

Our government is destroying life everywhere.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 14, 2023 12:21 PM (zjgNU)

107 We prefer the term “Abyssinian”.
Posted by: Ethiopian Restaurants at August 14, 2023 12:17 PM (EXyHK)

Whoa. Sounds deep.

Posted by: So that's where all the food went at August 14, 2023 12:21 PM (upfUC)

108 Yeah I'd say our situation is some different. The nation is being intentionally destroyed right before our eyes. Obama's " fundamental change".

Posted by: steevy at August 14, 2023 12:21 PM (FQmDC)

109 Pretty easy to do here in Texas. They just finished the Bois D'arc lake and they are already building another one in our county. I think they are calling it Ralph Hall lake or something like that.


Dallas/Fort Worth is growing by leaps and bounds and needs water. These two new lakes are supposed to fulfill their water needs for the next 50 years.
Posted by: Mister Scott


Yes. Ralph Hall. What pisses me off to no end? They are already pulling water out of Bois D'arc Lake and they haven't even opened it up to fishing yet because it isn't full.

WELL NO SHIT. Not if you are pulling water out before it's full. And it was supposed to open this fall.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 14, 2023 12:21 PM (nW4TA)

110 My life fades. The vision dims. All that remains are memories. I remember a time of chaos, ruined dreams, this wasted city.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 14, 2023 12:19 PM (aD39U)

----------

Like tears in rain ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Misinflation, Disinflation, & Malinflation Researcher at August 14, 2023 12:21 PM (AlCoY)

111 "29 New Yorkers voted for this. They wanted it.

Democracy must be honored, we keep hearing, and so America supports the coming collapse.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 14, 2023 12:11 PM (T+YTi) "

meh, only if you think elections are on the up & up; otherwise, maybe not so much.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - these lying liars have been lying for decades at August 14, 2023 12:22 PM (vbuLV)

112 Sam Kinnison had a great bit about it.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at August 14, 2023 12:17 PM (Rrhb6)

***

MOVE!

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at August 14, 2023 12:22 PM (flINI)

113 Walking the streets, I felt like Bruce Willis in 6th Sense trying unsuccessfully to turn the door knob. A ghost lost in a world that once was. And that's the problem: I want to come back to New York but it's impossible because the New York I want to come back to is no more.
---
America as well.

Sure there are pockets of the America we all remember growing up in that are hanging on.

But to find them only brings such jarring realization of just how much we have lost of ... everything in the last 15 years.

I don't like this New Paradise they are building at all.
And it's no comfort that they'll be blaming me even as they're being lined up against the wall.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 14, 2023 12:22 PM (FGJND)

114 Horrendous politics, insane schemes to inhibit vehicular traffic,

this cancerous policy has metastasized to Philadelphia, where too many bike lanes have been created. These lanes remove hundreds of needed parking spaces, which are becoming even more necessary with the new condo buildings sprouting like mushrooms after a summer rain.

That's not the only problem with the bike lanes. Drivers that are delivering provisions and inventory to restaurants and retailers can't find a spot to unload the truck.

Posted by: kallisto at August 14, 2023 12:22 PM (dCxaZ)

115 Only for the plebes. The heavy hitters in Big Tech go to the rich guy version of Burning Man called, "Further Future."

Nah, they went to Burning Man too.

There are companies that will put you up in elite "camps" at Burning Man with luxury RVs, guards, gourmet cooks, and Eastern European "models" for many thousands of dollars.

These aren't the people trying to sell their tickets - but people lower down on the Silicon Valley food chain are apparently having problems.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 14, 2023 12:22 PM (2tUFv)

116 Like tears cake in rain ...
Posted by: ShainS -- Misinflation, Disinflation, & Malinflation Researcher at August 14, 2023 12:21 PM (AlCoY)
++++
FIFY

Posted by: Richard Harris at August 14, 2023 12:22 PM (WkNQM)

117 ‘San Francisco Is Dying’: Before And After Video Shows The Mass Exodus Of Huge Brands

Before and after pictures have laid bare the mass exodus of huge brands from the city of San Francisco.

The video, made up of Google Maps screen grabs, shows large chain stores like Target and CVS before and after they moved out of the city.

Hordes of brand names including the likes of Whole Food and Nordstrom have recently moved out of the California city amid widespread crime and plummeting footfall. [see sock link]

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at August 14, 2023 12:22 PM (krqg6)

118 Early 70s, stationed in DC, one of the guys got orders to recruiting duty and after school was assigned to a station in NYC. A few of us decided to drive up on the weekend. He and his wife were living in a tiny, but nice apartment in the Bronx.People were friendly, the neighbors called him The Sergeant. Took them out for lunch and supper in local places, very nice and not too expensive (stationed in DC, we were used to higher prices). We spent the night at some place, military only, like a hostel (friends apartment was way to small). Cadets from West point visiting, awed at three grizzled USMC Vietnam Vets. Can't remember the name of the place. JJ?

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at August 14, 2023 12:22 PM (0EOe9)

119 105 Dallas/Fort Worth is growing by leaps and bounds and needs water. These two new lakes are supposed to fulfill their water needs for the next 50 years.

cut that projection in half with the numbers coming over the border
Posted by: brak at August 14, 2023 12:20 PM (25k9m)

At least Texas is making an effort to provide for the citizens. As opposed to some states who deliberately sabotage anything that might prepare for the future needs of a growing population

Posted by: Just Lily at August 14, 2023 12:23 PM (RLLZj)

120 My life fades. The vision dims. All that remains are memories. I remember a time of chaos, ruined dreams, this wasted city.

“The shadows are lengthening for me. The twilight is here. My days of old have vanished – tone and tints. They have gone glimmering through the dreams of things that were.
-D. Macarthur

Posted by: Archimedes at August 14, 2023 12:23 PM (eOEVl)

121 NYC is a sh*thole overrun with illegals and legal immigrants.

But, presuming you don't get mugged on the way to get it I hear you can get great Pad Thai at 3 AM...

Posted by: 18-1 at August 14, 2023 12:23 PM (lc5cP)

122 We don't go into walmart.
Punch up the app, drive over and they load your car.
Most of the time they don't fvck it up too bad.
Hell, they have booze even.

Posted by: Roland THTG at August 14, 2023 12:23 PM (cl+Gq)

123 They are the problem, not the city.

Yes, that's why I want them to go home.

Posted by: t-bird at August 14, 2023 12:23 PM (CaJIi)

124 Y'all remember the Las Vegas shooting?

The incident commander, John Pelletier, is now the Maui police chief.

https://tinyurl.com/5nwts8ap

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 14, 2023 12:23 PM (qhmjS)

125 We sound like our parents and grands crabbing about how things are different these days, and not for the better.

We have grown old.
Posted by: Tonypete


They were crabbing. We're not. They never had to fight groomers.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 14, 2023 12:24 PM (nW4TA)

126 If you want to see what a shit town looks like, come to New Orleans. Will make New York look like paradise.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 14, 2023 12:24 PM (JTwsP)

127 Y'all remember the Las Vegas shooting?

The incident commander, John Pelletier, is now the Maui police chief.

https://tinyurl.com/5nwts8ap
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 14, 2023 12:23 PM (qhmjS)
++++
Poor guy can't catch a break.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 14, 2023 12:24 PM (WkNQM)

128 The heavy hitters in Big Tech go to the rich guy version of Burning Man called, "Further Future." Or at least, they used to:
https://archive.is/hdFZv
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 14, 2023 12:17 PM (WkNQM)

^That makes sense. If the word has gotten out so that even someone clueless like me has heard about Burning Tree, then it can't be the "cool" place to be anymore.

Posted by: Iris at August 14, 2023 12:24 PM (n3DL0)

129 Sefton's perspective is indeed accurate. It is not a function of returning without the rose-colored glasses of a long-time resident. In his short absence, NYC HAS decayed even more.

That decay is independent (although linked) of the generation-long cultural change that began with Bloomberg and his desire to homogenize NYC into one big Disneyland of a big city.

Yes...the neighborhoods are rapidly disappearing, but concurrent with that is a huge increase in lawlessness, filth, physical decay (the streets are the worst they have ever been), and economic decline that is going to be very difficult to stop.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 14, 2023 12:24 PM (A3700)

130 this cancerous policy has metastasized to Philadelphia, where too many bike lanes have been created

The point of bike lanes is to impede auto traffic.

Whether bicycles actually use the lanes or not is very secondary.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 14, 2023 12:24 PM (2tUFv)

131 124 Y'all remember the Las Vegas shooting?

The incident commander, John Pelletier, is now the Maui police chief.


Maui is the Elites' redoubt

they will hide there

Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 14, 2023 12:25 PM (AcWfM)

132
The incident commander, John Pelletier, is now the Maui police chief.


He was rewarded for his work in Vegas. But he's still an incompetent asshole

Posted by: 18-1 at August 14, 2023 12:25 PM (lc5cP)

133 The point of bike lanes is to impede auto traffic.

Whether bicycles actually use the lanes or not is very secondary.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 14, 2023 12:24 PM (2tUFv)
++++
See Also: HOV lanes, which never achieved the goal and caused serious problems for traffic flow.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 14, 2023 12:25 PM (WkNQM)

134 My life fades. The vision dims. All that remains are memories. I remember a time of chaos, ruined dreams, this wasted city.

“The shadows are lengthening for me. The twilight is here. My days of old have vanished – tone and tints. They have gone glimmering through the dreams of things that were.
-D. Macarthur
Posted by: Archimedes


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time... like tears in rain...
-Roy Batty

Posted by: rickb223 at August 14, 2023 12:25 PM (nW4TA)

135 "New York-Style...Your Rats Will Love It!"

Posted by: Guido's Pizza & Extermination Shop at August 14, 2023 12:25 PM (Sv58p)

136 “Joe had never seen the milky way.”

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 14, 2023 12:25 PM (EXyHK)

137
The funny thing about buying property around one of the DFW lakes is that when it's Summer and no rain is falling and you wanna dive off the pier behind your lake-front home-

the lake has receded and you have about a hundred of mud, muck, and stink between you and the nearest water,

until the rain starts falling again.

EX:Check out Lake Grapevine sometime.

Lake Austin is the place to have a lake house at because, there is a contract with the state that never allows the lake to fall below a certain level.

If it does they shut off the outflow until the lake rises about that level.

Very costly as you might expect.

Posted by: naturalfake at August 14, 2023 12:25 PM (QzZeQ)

138 Sundance at Conservative Treehouse calls it the Great Pretending--in a nutshell we can't process how bad it has all gotten so we pretend it isn't as bad(horrible) as it really is now.
There will be a time --especially and for sure very soon if America First cannot defeat industrial scale ballot manufacturing in the next election--when the depravity of it all will be the new normal.
There is no going back or fixing anything if America First goes down in the next election.

Posted by: Voter theater. at August 14, 2023 12:26 PM (uc5VD)

139 He was rewarded for his work in Vegas. But he's still an incompetent asshole
Posted by: 18-1
__

If he's doing what he's supposed to do, how is that incompetence?

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 14, 2023 12:26 PM (qhmjS)

140 Yeah but where else can you get Ethiopian food delivered at 3 in the morning? You stupid inbred toothless flyover MAGA country hicks probably never even HEARD of Ethiopia!
Posted by: Some really annoying New York uber alles type at August 14, 2023 12:15 PM (upfUC)

Ethiopian food sucks. Now insert the Sam Kinison joke about starvation in Ethiopia ala mid-1980's comedy special.

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at August 14, 2023 12:26 PM (2graF)

141 We were always taking day trips to NYC, to shop, visit museums, theater, all that fun stuff.

After the WTC attack, it was just so sad, driving up the turnpike to the city and those two towers were gone. They had always been the signal that: "you're almost there!" and ignited anticipation in us daytrippers that the fun was soon to begin.

Posted by: kallisto at August 14, 2023 12:26 PM (dCxaZ)

142 A phrase you wrote jumped out at me: "The change from even just a year ago, in terms of just how low the city has deteriorated is shocking."

We wonder how long this can go on, because it seems as though everything is deteriorating with no end in sight - but in every city with these issues that we read about - Portland, Chicago, San Fran, Philadelphia, etc..... things are not just bad, but *getting* bad at an accelerating rate. There will be some trigger point before the breaking point is widely acknowledged (there always is, just the way things work) but it can't be long now.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 14, 2023 12:26 PM (i9ffA)

143 You can see the same enemy at work in the entire western world.

Posted by: steevy at August 14, 2023 12:26 PM (FQmDC)

144 I find it's slowly creeping downward.

For years Madison Square felt like the dividing line (as even Tompkins was cleared of all but the last few crust punks.) It was where you'd get a few hoards of homeless camping out, but not many.

During Wilhelm's reign it started moving south, Gramercy would now be packed with homeless, and they'd sprinkle in to lower Manhattan.

Now it feels like they've made huge headway, and are inching in on Tribeca.

This isn't even taking in to account all the other shit in the city.

Over the last few years you'd be on trains that were fully packed with a single illegal immigrant family, as the kids under 10 in one group are nearing 2 dozen. Canal street is no longer Chinese people selling knockoffs, but Africans aggressively taking over entire streets with their shit, and harassing everyone near them. And every train, not just the usual ACE or 456, is a high chance to get stabbed.

Like you i hope it turns around. I still like walking around (anywhere below 23rd, i hate going above) and still see a nice apartment in Tribeca or West Village as an end goal, but certainly not in this state. Growing up under Giuliani spoiled some of us.

Posted by: Rbastid at August 14, 2023 12:27 PM (iGlwL)

145 Whether bicycles actually use the lanes or not is very secondary.

Bicycle lanes are rarely if ever safe for bicyclists. The goal is to reduce everyone’s mobility, not encourage cycling.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 14, 2023 12:27 PM (EXyHK)

146 What I can't get my head around is how in the world people can be voting for this type of government. It seems so obvious that normal people would be drawn to a candidate who say's "I'm going to clean this place up" that when the opposite happens, as it did recently in Chicago - the place I grew up - the only thing I can think is that these people are mentally defective. I know there's vote stealing going on, especially in a place like Chicago, but still, a whole lot of people do vote for this. I used to call these people libtards but I think the more accurate descriptor is Mentally Defective.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at August 14, 2023 12:27 PM (Hb96K)

147 The PC home page this morning:
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TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP INDICTMENTS GEORGIA JAN 6

Hawaii





biden

Posted by: REALLY Dark Brandon at August 14, 2023 12:27 PM (ji3Wy)

148 Lake Austin is the place to have a lake house at because, there is a contract with the state that never allows the lake to fall below a certain level.

If it does they shut off the outflow until the lake rises about that level.

Very costly as you might expect.

Posted by: naturalfake



It also helps that Travis is 200 feet deep and the lake has nearly vertical drop offs.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 14, 2023 12:27 PM (lTGtQ)

149 It's sad. I wanted to live out the rest of my life here, but it was not to be. Despite everything, I hope that this incredible place somehow can rise again. Then again, the rest of the country is heading in the same direction.

Oh well. One more day and then I depart for my new home. But, you can take the kid out of Brooklyn, but you'll never take Brooklyn out of the kid.

damn fine words there jj

sad but nice writing

Posted by: rhennigantx at August 14, 2023 12:27 PM (BRHaw)

150 Sorrow.

Posted by: Mongerel at August 14, 2023 12:27 PM (UIpR+)

151
Escape 2000 - Leave The Bronx

I can stream it on Prime. Looks so bad it could be good.
Posted by: Ignoramus


MST3K did that one.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 14, 2023 12:27 PM (63Dwl)

152 I used to prance around NYC during the Giuliani years

Then I tried to prance there once during Soy Who Married Lesbian's tenure

I no longer prance

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at August 14, 2023 12:27 PM (VTu1l)

153 Y'all remember the Las Vegas shooting?
The incident commander, John Pelletier, is now the Maui police chief.
https://tinyurl.com/5nwts8ap
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 14, 2023 12:23 PM (qhmjS)


Did you ever get the niggling feeling our best hope is that that Larry Correia's Monster Hunter International is actually a documentary?

Posted by: Kindltot at August 14, 2023 12:28 PM (xhaym)

154 The heavy hitters in Big Tech go to the rich guy version of Burning Man called, "Further Future." Or at least, they used to:
https://archive.is/hdFZv
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 14, 2023 12:17 PM (WkNQM)

^That makes sense. If the word has gotten out so that even someone clueless like me has heard about Burning Tree, then it can't be the "cool" place to be anymore.
Posted by: Iris


Burning Man was the wrong thing to name it.

NEVER name something that can be equated with the clap. The jokes write themselves.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 14, 2023 12:28 PM (nW4TA)

155 Whether bicycles actually use the lanes or not is very secondary.

true, they're not well trafficked but the cyclists who *do* use them are on a mission from God to take out any pedestrian who dares to stray with six feet of them.

Posted by: kallisto at August 14, 2023 12:28 PM (dCxaZ)

156 Your experience in NYC is that of my wife and me with Austin. It was a different and wonderful place full of cowboys and hippies and struggling singers and funky lake dives. It’s now a toxic combination of woke Californians, tech millionaires, and street people. You can never go home again. Especially when home has been destroyed by the left.

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at August 14, 2023 12:28 PM (WeouF)

157 What I can't get my head around is how in the world people can be voting for this type of government.

Posted by: Chairborne!




It isn't voters, its ballots.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 14, 2023 12:28 PM (lTGtQ)

158 NYC is in an odd state. Rents are going up in some neighborhoods like the UES, while illegal aliens are squatting in midtown because the city has run out of hotel rooms to put them in at $400 a night.

I live in Mott Haven, which is the far south west of The Bronx. We top most lists for being the most dangerous neighborhood in the city, but I live in the far south west, away from the projects, where lots of new residential development is going up. The crime that's gone up is black-on-black youth in the projects. Doesn't affect me. Manhattan has actually seen the deterioration. Homeless and illegals don't come here.

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 14, 2023 12:28 PM (RqMSv)

159 Good write up, thanks JJ.

Posted by: Corona exile-back_in_exile at August 14, 2023 12:28 PM (3wNhr)

160 Lake Austin is the place to have a lake house at because, there is a contract with the state that never allows the lake to fall below a certain level.

You have our word!

Posted by: The State at August 14, 2023 12:28 PM (Sv58p)

161
Oh well. One more day and then I depart for my new home. But, you can take the kid out of Brooklyn, but you'll never take Brooklyn out of the kid.

----

The tree is still there though, right?

Posted by: Just Lily at August 14, 2023 12:28 PM (RLLZj)

162 I used to prance around NYC during the Giuliani years

Then I tried to prance there once during Soy Who Married Lesbian's tenure

I no longer prance
Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger


What about sashay?
Lie to me if you must!

Posted by: rickb223 at August 14, 2023 12:28 PM (nW4TA)

163 Let him walk, Danno.

Posted by: Chief John Pelletier at August 14, 2023 12:29 PM (krqg6)

164 154 The heavy hitters in Big Tech go to the rich guy version of Burning Man called, "Further Future." Or at least, they used to:
https://archive.is/hdFZv
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 14, 2023 12:17 PM (WkNQM)

^That makes sense. If the word has gotten out so that even someone clueless like me has heard about Burning Tree, then it can't be the "cool" place to be anymore.
Posted by: Iris


Burning Man was the wrong thing to name it.

NEVER name something that can be equated with the clap. The jokes write themselves.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 14, 2023 12:28 PM (nW4TA)
________

Well, they do burn a big Wicker Man there . . . .

Posted by: Elric Blade at August 14, 2023 12:29 PM (iFTx/)

165 That's the nice part about being from Detroit. It's still the same shithole I left 20 years ago. Nothing has changed.

Posted by: Diesel Jones, Biologist at August 14, 2023 12:29 PM (Vu7A1)

166 when I lived in Philly the fun of riding my bike around was dodging, well, just about everything...but especially getting a sixth sense about what parked car door was about to open right in your path.

It kept us alert. We didn't need no stinkin' bike lanes!

Posted by: kallisto at August 14, 2023 12:29 PM (dCxaZ)

167 134 I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time... like tears in rain...
-Roy Batty
Posted by: rickb223 at August 14, 2023 12:25 PM

Best death scene ever.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at August 14, 2023 12:29 PM (qoLdL)

168 Biden asked about the rising Maui death toll " No comment"

Posted by: steevy at August 14, 2023 12:30 PM (FQmDC)

169 134 My life fades. The vision dims. All that remains are memories. I remember a time of chaos, ruined dreams, this wasted city.

“The shadows are lengthening for me. The twilight is here. My days of old have vanished – tone and tints. They have gone glimmering through the dreams of things that were.
-D. Macarthur
Posted by: Archimedes

I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time... like tears in rain...
-Roy Batty
Posted by: rickb223 at August 14, 2023 12:25 PM (nW4TA)

Went up on the mountain
To see what I could see
The whole world was fallin'
Right down in front of me

'Cause I'm hung up on dreams
I'll never see, yeah baby
Ahh, help me baby
Or this will surely be the end of me, yeah
- Gregg Allman

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 14, 2023 12:30 PM (i9ffA)

170 Bicycle lanes are rarely if ever safe for bicyclists. The goal is to reduce everyone’s mobility, not encourage cycling.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 14, 2023 12:27 PM (EXyHK)
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Cars Without Drivers has entered the chat

Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 14, 2023 12:30 PM (JvZF+)

171 LOL, Kindltot! that would be better than the current trend, for sure!

Team Haven FTW!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - these lying liars have been lying for decades at August 14, 2023 12:30 PM (vbuLV)

172 167 I believe the tears in the rain line was Rutger Hauers ad lib

Posted by: steevy at August 14, 2023 12:30 PM (FQmDC)

173 21 look, don't you go shaming that rat who's simply trying to feed his 4 teenaged boys while living in the sewer..

In the Trump years, he used to be able to take half a pizza back to his family.
Posted by: t-bird at August 14, 2023 12:10 PM (CaJIi)

Maury assures me the tests came back they were mine...

Posted by: Splinter at August 14, 2023 12:30 PM (53oGX)

174 EX:Check out Lake Grapevine sometime.

Lake Austin is the place to have a lake house at because, there is a contract with the state that never allows the lake to fall below a certain level.

If it does they shut off the outflow until the lake rises about that level.

Very costly as you might expect.
Posted by: naturalfake at August 14, 2023 12:25 PM

That's foreign to me. The lake our family cabin is on is over 100 feet deep in places and is spring fed. Most of the lakes up here are. Lucky in one respect at least.

Posted by: Minnfidel at August 14, 2023 12:30 PM (GwxCX)

175 At first glance I thought that pizza slice was a bicycle saddle.

Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at August 14, 2023 12:31 PM (HfNu5)

176 I feel so fortunate to have seen so much of the US before the Great Decay. Thanks, Dad!

Posted by: Emmie at August 14, 2023 12:31 PM (BqonO)

177 I grew up in the Twin Cities. I knew it was going downhill when they stopped mowing their city parks and parkways to provide habitat to things that crawl. St George of Fentanyl overdosed in front of the building that used to house my doctors office. Haven't been back because I cannot stand to see what they've done to my city. When mom dies I will probably never go back.

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at August 14, 2023 12:31 PM (flINI)

178 In the new TMNT movie Splinter is gay....

Posted by: steevy at August 14, 2023 12:31 PM (FQmDC)

179 At least the mansions on Maui were spared.
Imagine how much more tragic things would have been...

https://tinyurl.com/43paswmt

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 14, 2023 12:32 PM (qhmjS)

180 🐀 🐀 ❤️ NY

What a grate vacation!

Posted by: Chief John Pelletier at August 14, 2023 12:32 PM (krqg6)

181 Yes. Ralph Hall. What pisses me off to no end? They are already pulling water out of Bois D'arc Lake and they haven't even opened it up to fishing yet because it isn't full.

WELL NO SHIT. Not if you are pulling water out before it's full. And it was supposed to open this fall.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 14, 2023 12:21 P


I was talking the other day to the Sheriff's deputy that patrols the new lake. He said they intend to open it up in late November. He is constantly kicking people off of the lake.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 14, 2023 12:32 PM (QNSds)

182 I know though, that even with locals, it's only going to get worse, as the alternative to Adams was a completely unabashed communist.

The stupid and the leeches in major cities far outweigh the those who can actually understand the real consequences of voting. Im right across the river and I see it with so many idiots saying they hate our mayor, but will 100% vote for him over a Republican, because these people are f'n morons, and not the good kind!

The good intentions of some have really screwed this country, as thinking every 3 IQ dipshit or person draining society should be voting has made great cities turn in to shitholes run by commies.

Posted by: Rbastid at August 14, 2023 12:32 PM (iGlwL)

183 I believe the tears in the rain line was Rutger Hauers ad lib

It's wonderful if you suspend disbelief. Roy is what, 4 years old? How did he get to deep space and back? FTL travel, yet they can't keep him alive?

Posted by: Archimedes at August 14, 2023 12:32 PM (eOEVl)

184 Went up on the mountain
To see what I could see
The whole world was fallin'
Right down in front of me

'Cause I'm hung up on dreams
I'll never see, yeah baby
Ahh, help me baby
Or this will surely be the end of me, yeah
- Gregg Allman
Posted by: Tom Servo


Do not go gentle into that good night,
Old age should burn and rave at close of day;
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 14, 2023 12:32 PM (nW4TA)

185 Except we aren't complaining about music or fashion trends like our folks did. Things actually are going to shit right in front of us, and destroying our country on a foundational level.
---
I'm often reminded of the writer during the fall of the Roman Empire--unaware he was living in a dead state--lamenting he had to travel to Gaul by boat as the roads were no longer safe.

He didn't have the luxury of blaming whites, conservatives, nationalists, or supremacists.... which is the sole cause of the current decline.

LaWashanda would explain but she's currently on her Obamaphone cause her EBT was late in depositing and her 3rd baby's daddy ain't given her no money neither

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 14, 2023 12:32 PM (FGJND)

186 Chutkan was forced to recuse herself from the bench when she was overseeing Fusion GPS’s attempt to block former congressman Devin Nunes and Kash Patel from outing the source of payments that funded the infamous Steele dossier.

“We found out her law firm, Boies Schiller, represented Fusion GPS,” Patel answered. “The very client that was in front of her in federal court was one of her former clients. That is rule #1 for disqualification.”

Posted by: SMOD at August 14, 2023 12:32 PM (RHGPo)

187 46 I watch seasoned citizens put groceries back on the shelf. Sad.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 14, 2023 12:13 PM

That's because you Republicans keep them poor and make them eat cat food!

Posted by: Unhinged Leftists at August 14, 2023 12:33 PM (JCZqz)

188 Our government is destroying life everywhere.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 14, 2023 12:21 PM (zjgNU)

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Don't recall who linked it here, but an excellent essay by Michael Lind @ Tablet ("The Culture of Transgression") with an interesting insight into today's anti-West revolution by Western "elites."

Pull quote: "Having vandalized every premodern tradition, the elite antinomians of the modern West now don’t know what to do next. What should rebels against the bourgeoisie rebel against when the bourgeoisie has fallen?

The answer, it is increasingly apparent, is to rebel against the proletariat. Instead of shocking the bourgeoisie, our post-bourgeois managerial overclass now delights in shocking the working class."

https://is.gd/3jZLqW

Posted by: ShainS -- Misinflation, Disinflation, & Malinflation Researcher at August 14, 2023 12:33 PM (9pMsp)

189 @120 Why General Doug, you use your mouth prettier than a $20 whore.

Not a fan of the man who put the vain in vainglorious.

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 14, 2023 12:33 PM (RqMSv)

190 See Also: HOV lanes, which never achieved the goal and caused serious problems for traffic flow.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 14, 2023 12:25 PM (WkNQM)


Don't forget the miles of roadway taken up by rental bike racks. In NYC it is CitiBike, which has taken over entire lanes...impeding the flow of traffic for 100s of thousands of cars, buses and trucks, all for the benefit of a few thousand hipster douchebags who ride to work.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 14, 2023 12:33 PM (A3700)

191 This busty, bespectacled redhead fondly remembers her visit to New York City and she is deliberately not returning so that she can continue to fondly remember the place:
https://is.gd/DPDapg

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 14, 2023 12:33 PM (WkNQM)

192 Oops, Country Garden, China's largest developer and possessor of over 1 trillion in debt, has missed multiple debt payments over the past two weeks.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 14, 2023 12:34 PM (lTGtQ)

193 I know there's vote stealing going on, especially in a place like Chicago, but still, a whole lot of people do vote for this. I used to call these people libtards but I think the more accurate descriptor is Mentally Defective.
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at August 14, 2023 12:27 PM (Hb96K)

when a people reaches this state of depravity and irrationality, democracy is no longer a viable form of government.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 14, 2023 12:34 PM (i9ffA)

194 183 In the movie they say the life spans are intentionally left short, in the book they had not solved the problem yet...until Rachael

Posted by: steevy at August 14, 2023 12:34 PM (FQmDC)

195 I moved out of NYC a little over 15 years ago at this point.

This came at the tail end of the Bloomberg administration, and it was one particular incident.

It was late, I was trying to cross over from Herald Square to my N train to Astoria and the sea of crushing humanity prevented me from doing it, I had to escape up a side stair cross over to another entrance, fight another sea of humanity, stand on a sweltering platform, and then fight against another sea of humanity to get on the car, and had to stand up all the way to Ditmars.

That night I told my wife we are out of here.

And a couple of months later we were gone.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 14, 2023 12:34 PM (rc3Z7)

196 106 On that note, I recently went home to my hometown.

It's a little smaller than New York. Ok, it's 3,000 people.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 14, 2023 12:21 PM (zjgNU)

One of my billion dollar lottery dreams is rescuing a town like that. Open up a factory, revitalize a forgotten corner of a state, give people the dignity of work. No college degrees required, support your family. No need to get filthy rich; I would already have more money than I needed. Invest in a few communities like this and given them hope.

But you're right, few children, and those that are around are typically raised in a Hillbilly Elegy environment. Hard lives, but little notion of a work ethic, education, or any chance of a meaningful life.

Posted by: Mitt Romney at August 14, 2023 12:34 PM (a/dOO)

197 Ah, love, let us be true
To one another! for the world, which seems
To lie before us like a land of dreams,
So various, so beautiful, so new,
Hath really neither joy, nor love, nor light,
Nor certitude, nor peace, nor help for pain;
And we are here as on a darkling plain
Swept with confused alarms of struggle and flight,
Where ignorant armies clash by night.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 14, 2023 12:34 PM (eOEVl)

198 What about sashay?

************

There might have been a sashay or two

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at August 14, 2023 12:34 PM (VTu1l)

199 I was talking the other day to the Sheriff's deputy that patrols the new lake. He said they intend to open it up in late November. He is constantly kicking people off of the lake.
Posted by: Mister Scott


I can't wait. Because then it'll take the pressure off Lake Fannin which is right down the dirt road from the house.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 14, 2023 12:34 PM (nW4TA)

200 And the electric bikes are frequently bursting into flame...

Posted by: steevy at August 14, 2023 12:35 PM (FQmDC)

201 What I can't get my head around is how in the world people can be voting for this type of government.

no one voted for the globalists to let millions of third world immigrants into every prosperous western nation -- every party is the same choice on that issue

Posted by: brak at August 14, 2023 12:35 PM (25k9m)

202 This is what happens when you close the 12th Precinct.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 14, 2023 12:35 PM (63Dwl)

203 Bezos? Ellison? The Oprahpottamus? No helping your Maui neighbors?

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 14, 2023 12:35 PM (TZ75n)

204 If it had not been for the sexting scandal, Anthony Weiner likely would have won the 2013 mayoral election instead of Bill di Blasio. In retrospect, this might very well have been a better outcome for the city.

Posted by: Henry O. at August 14, 2023 12:35 PM (vJbDA)

205 This article really resonates with me. I was born and grew up in Detroit until I was 12. I can't even show my kids where I lived, the neighborhood is so bad and so dangerous. I never understood because the houses were beautiful and we left them there. All the people needed to do was move in and enjoy them, but that's not what happened.

Posted by: Chillin the most at August 14, 2023 12:35 PM (0uQp2)

206 I don't have a hometown to go back to, so at least I don't have to deal with that sentimentality.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 14, 2023 12:35 PM (qhmjS)

207 Current Maui Police Chief Was Incident Commander During 2017 Las Vegas Massacre

.. the guy is a "disaster magnet"

Posted by: SMOD at August 14, 2023 12:35 PM (RHGPo)

208 Outstanding and very poignant summary, JJ. Thank you….

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at August 14, 2023 12:35 PM (nNI2N)

209 My non scientific theory is that all cities seemed to be doomed to this fate. I know there are some good people in the cities, but cities seem to attract garbage people who then vote for garbage democrat leaders who by nature get off on having a captive confined population to run their scams on.

I was always a suburb dude. My parents were from east orange NJ when it was nice, and they hung out there and in newark, when it was nice, and I always hear that phrase when it comes to cities...when it was nice. My parents left when I was born and headed to the suburbs WHERE it was nice. I go back to the area I moved out of when I was 5, and its still nice. I go to where I lived and went to school up until I got married, and its still nice. Where I moved from 2 years ago is still nice. There seems to be a pattern. It just seems cities are eventually doomed.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 14, 2023 12:35 PM (VwHCD)

210 I have a daughter living in Cobble Hill. Spent some time last October and sad to report my experience is similar to yours JJ. Been visiting over 20 years and the constant stench was unavoidable. Sad

Posted by: BlindButch at August 14, 2023 12:35 PM (Fo7Gg)

211 Long ago read a full study on the Rats of NY, where they live, ate and habits, was quite interesting
Posted by: Skip

Why the hell didn’t they take them out while they had actionable intelligence?

Posted by: db at August 14, 2023 12:36 PM (wu87C)

212 Oops, Country Garden, China's largest developer and possessor of over 1 trillion in debt, has missed multiple debt payments over the past two weeks.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 14, 2023 12:34 PM (lTGtQ)
++++
Ruh-roh. Things are still reeling from the reduction of Evergrande to a shambling zombie. Adding Country Garden on top of it might actually cause the real estate market in Red China to free-fall.

And banks and local governments may well detonate in the wake of it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 14, 2023 12:36 PM (WkNQM)

213 Every place I ever lived had declined over the years. Cultural degredation and garbage politicians and leftists (birm) have killed off entire states.

We will probably be getting out just in time.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 14, 2023 12:36 PM (IaTa3)

214 See Also: HOV lanes, which never achieved the goal and caused serious problems for traffic flow.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 14, 2023 12:25 PM (WkNQM)

yeah, i'm waiting for the full repercussions to be felt here in hampton roads from the various expansion projects. they're adding 2 lanes in each direction to the high rise bridge and the HRBT.

of course they're ALL the EZPASS toll lanes, so i expect minimal impact on traffic, or many, MANY wrecks from people zipping out around the pay gates, since it looks like there's no divider except for the lines on the road...

Posted by: SturmToddler at August 14, 2023 12:36 PM (KZaqS)

215 Your experience in NYC is that of my wife and me with Austin. It was a different and wonderful place full of cowboys and hippies and struggling singers and funky lake dives. It’s now a toxic combination of woke Californians, tech millionaires, and street people. You can never go home again. Especially when home has been destroyed by the left.
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The Post Millennial @TPostMillennial
AUSTIN, TX— The Austin School District @AustinISD is transporting children to the all-ages Pride event via school bus.

Pornographic images among other vulgarities are being sold at the event.
Video by: @TaylerUSA
https://tinyurl.com/y9etdb5d

And off, corrupt incompetent Chief sock.

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at August 14, 2023 12:36 PM (krqg6)

216 Born and raised in Bpt, CT. Left when I was 20.

One of the best decisions I ever made. Don't care if I never go back.

The country is a big place. And there are far better places to live.

Posted by: Not trying to be mean but... at August 14, 2023 12:36 PM (pHPwR)

217 A slice of pizza was twenty cents at Pat's Pizzeria in Bay Ridge in 1965. Went up to a quarter in 67.

Posted by: Robert Wagner Was Mayor at August 14, 2023 12:36 PM (83IzV)

218 191 This busty, bespectacled redhead fondly remembers her visit to New York City and she is deliberately not returning so that she can continue to fondly remember the place:
https://is.gd/DPDapg
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 14, 2023 12:33 PM (WkNQM)

MILFy but I suspect that's the bra, not just her boobs

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at August 14, 2023 12:36 PM (xcxpd)

219 https://is.gd/DPDapg
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 14, 2023 12:33 PM (WkNQM)

***

The resemblance to S E Cupp is a disqualifier

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at August 14, 2023 12:37 PM (flINI)

220 I grew up in the Twin Cities. I knew it was going downhill when they stopped mowing their city parks and parkways to provide habitat to things that crawl. St George of Fentanyl overdosed in front of the building that used to house my doctors office. Haven't been back because I cannot stand to see what they've done to my city. When mom dies I will probably never go back.
Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at August 14, 2023 12:31 PM

I grew up on the East Side of Saint Pothole. It was great back then, like a small town. You had the Swedish areas, the Italians, Irish, Polish etc. etc. Everyone got along. It was like small towns within a big town. It started changing about 25 years ago. I go there once in a blue moon to visit people I know. Minnehopeless, forget about it. I'll never set foot in that shithole again. Citiots

Posted by: Minnfidel at August 14, 2023 12:37 PM (GwxCX)

221 Worry not, JJ. When the Chinese take over, they'll clean it up (ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!).

Posted by: kathysaysso at August 14, 2023 12:37 PM (yACxx)

222 @201

>>no one voted for the globalists to let millions of third world immigrants into every prosperous western nation -- every party is the same choice on that issue

Virtually all of the destruction we are experiencing is being imposed at levels beyond political representation and input from citizens.

So the solution is not going to be a political solution.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 14, 2023 12:37 PM (rc3Z7)

223 221 A rat in every pork fried rice....

Posted by: steevy at August 14, 2023 12:38 PM (FQmDC)

224 Too many mayors are purblind ideologues.

Posted by: mr tmz at August 14, 2023 12:38 PM (rJ48h)

225 I saw a video recently, on metro areas (not just cities) losing population since the 2020 census. They noted the ones that are losing, not just raw numbers, but percentage of overall population.

NY metro is easily number one in total loss, with over 300K leaving the metro area, and the percentage loss was, I think, number 2 in the country. Of course, LA was high on the list too. Now that I think about it, I think San Francissy was tops in percentage loss.

Why anyone would live in these third world shitholes, I do not know.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 14, 2023 12:38 PM (dGCAG)

226 I am going to Austin some time this Fall to shoot a mini-doc about the "Yogurt Shop Murders". I've only ever been to TX briefly (to get a tattoo in Ft. Worth when I was stationed at Ft. Sill), so not sure what to expect. I know Austin is considered a burgeoning cultural site, but I have an image of it being full of hippies and hipsters. Should be interesting.

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 14, 2023 12:38 PM (2cS/G)

227 Clifford D. Simak's short story "City" described a world where the cities had largely emptied out, not through war or disease, but simply because technology had made it possible for people to live in a world *without* the need for cities. There were holdouts who absolutely refused to leave, along with bandits and gangs that found them preferable. But for most people, they simply didn't need or want the city life anymore.

We may be seeing that transition now.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 14, 2023 12:38 PM (YIVH2)

228 Your experience in NYC is that of my wife and me with Austin. It was a different and wonderful place full of cowboys and hippies and struggling singers and funky lake dives. It’s now a toxic combination of woke Californians, tech millionaires, and street people. You can never go home again. Especially when home has been destroyed by the left.

yeah that destroyed it quickly, didn't they? I went to UT and no way in hell will my kids go there

Posted by: brak at August 14, 2023 12:38 PM (25k9m)

229 Is the rat a Democrat?

Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at August 14, 2023 12:38 PM (HfNu5)

230 I'm sorry, J.J. I know it hurts. I've given up going back.

Tomorrow we will all say "Welcome home, J.J. "

And you will be.

Posted by: creeper at August 14, 2023 12:39 PM (cTCuP)

231 I feel bad for Maui like I would feel bad for some Chinese city if this had happened there. I mean I'm not laughing about it, but I'm not gonna lose any sleep over it either..

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 14, 2023 12:39 PM (i9ffA)

232 Hey creeper.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 14, 2023 12:39 PM (qhmjS)

233 I feel for you Sefton. I wanted the same in California. Believe it or not, LA felt special to me even though it wasn't my home town. and I do miss a handful of friends from there. I haven't gone back and probably won't for the foreseeable future. But what I had there is gone. It's time to move on which I'm doing.

Posted by: InZona at August 14, 2023 12:39 PM (a6Pki)

234 Thought experiment: When did the very first cities start to decline? 1970s. And as things get financially worse, more cities are going under.

When did we float the dollar? 1971.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 14, 2023 12:39 PM (lTGtQ)

235 63 We sound like our parents and grands crabbing about how things are different these days, and not for the better.

We have grown old.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 14, 2023 12:15 PM (IaTa3)


In hindsight, at some point in the 70s? or 80s? the Old Folks' crabbing became correct in predicting the country was heading for true moral and social decay. I can't recall my grandparents being concerned about economic and infrastructure downfall coming, even in the 70s. At some point the oldsters' crabbing about coming decay in every part of life in the US became valid. And here we are.

Posted by: Gref at August 14, 2023 12:39 PM (AMIL/)

236 191 This busty, bespectacled redhead fondly remembers her visit to New York City and she is deliberately not returning so that she can continue to fondly remember the place:
https://is.gd/DPDapg
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 14, 2023 12:33 PM (WkNQM)


Eh. It's not *that* red.

Posted by: Dr. T at August 14, 2023 12:39 PM (bhRsz)

237 They are not long, the weeping and the laughter,
Love and desire and hate;
I think they have no portion in us after
We pass the gate.
They are not long, the days of wine and roses:
Out of a misty dream
Our path emerges for a while, then closes
Within a dream.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 14, 2023 12:40 PM (eOEVl)

238 @204 It was supposed to be Coleen Quinn, the progressive lesbian, to be NYC mayor. Weiner's scandal sucked up all the media, and DiBlasio won with the backing of the unions and Black church leaders providing turnout in a lightly contested primary.

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 14, 2023 12:40 PM (RqMSv)

239 You can never go home again

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I left my state and still miss it, but I missed what it USED to be. The home I miss no longer exists, so there's nothing to go back to

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at August 14, 2023 12:40 PM (VTu1l)

240 In San Diego, I see homeless everwhere. Went to the Sports Arena area, saw tweakers everywhere. Then again, when Dems run things, they always become shitholes, and the entire state is becoming a shithole.

Just like when Communists take over; only the party elite have plenty. Venezuela, Cambodia, USSR, China. Oh sure, China has had it's prosperity after allowing SOME capitalism (a realization that communism sucks, but the power the elite hold is always nice).

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 14, 2023 12:40 PM (ynpvh)

241 You cannot step into the same river twice.

Posted by: Heraclitus at August 14, 2023 12:40 PM (7zEAH)

242 The incident commander, John Pelletier, is now the Maui police chief.

Six months ago, I left West Maui to fly home on a Sunday afternoon. Ahead of me, an elderly Maui resident was hit by a car and died. Very tragic.

The response of the Maui police was to close the road. For four hours. (Since it was a Sunday afternoon, it apparently took a couple of hours just to get the necessary investigators to the site.)

This is the only road out of West Maui (in theory, there is a second road, which is famous for being one of the most dangerous roads in the United States, and the rental car companies prohibit using that road).

Hundreds of people missed their flights. I had to stay overnight in Central Maui, was rebooked on a late flight the following day, and got home at 3 AM, about thirty hours late.

Really? There was no way to direct cars through the crash site at 5 MPH, in a way to minimize damage to any needed evidence?

I marveled that an island whose economy is entirely dependent on tourism was so cavalier about how tourists were treated.

It was an interesting insight into Hawaiian governmental bureaucracy.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 14, 2023 12:40 PM (2tUFv)

243 I feel the same way about my hometown, Austin, Texas. Generations of my family were born there. I lived there while it changed from a sleepy college/government town to a tech powerhouse and hipster haven. A bit jarring, but as J.J. says, inevitable. But it had already started to go downhill when we moved to an adjacent county 6.5 years ago. Now it's practically unrecognizable--and dangerous. Nothing of what I loved about the city in its various iterations is left. I don't even feel sad about it anymore.

Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at August 14, 2023 12:40 PM (fTtFy)

244 Oops, Country Garden, China's largest developer and possessor of over 1 trillion in debt, has missed multiple debt payments over the past two weeks.
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That moment, poised at the top of the first big drop of the roller.coaster, where you can see what's going to happen just before things start to pick up.speed.

Posted by: Simplemind at August 14, 2023 12:40 PM (NGFVa)

245 what size is an se cupp?

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 14, 2023 12:40 PM (i9ffA)

246 Chutkan was forced to recuse herself from the bench

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How was she forced? How can she be forced to recuse herself from Trump's case? Or is it really just a choice she gets to make?

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 14, 2023 12:40 PM (t/2Uw)

247 For some of us, this world was never our home.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 14, 2023 12:41 PM (qhmjS)

248 Don't forget the miles of roadway taken up by rental bike racks. In NYC it is CitiBike, which has taken over entire lanes...impeding the flow of traffic for 100s of thousands of cars, buses and trucks, all for the benefit of a few thousand hipster douchebags who ride to work.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 14, 2023 12:33 PM

They did that in the Twin Shitties. Yea, those bike lanes are PACKED in the winter months. Fucking idiots.

Posted by: Minnfidel at August 14, 2023 12:41 PM (GwxCX)

249 I’m headed back to longtime home SoCal soon for a work trip and I’ve already reconciled myself to the idea that the place I knew and loved… the place where we raised our family… really doesn’t exist anymore. It’s sad…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at August 14, 2023 12:41 PM (nNI2N)

250 In the Trump years, he used to be able to take half a pizza back to his family.
Posted by: t-bird at August 14, 2023 12:10 PM (CaJIi)

After another year of Bidenflation, he will be able to take a whole pizza back to his family. But that pizza will be the size of a drink coaster, and less tasty.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 14, 2023 12:41 PM (SWoAk)

251 239 You can never go home again

****************

I left my state and still miss it, but I missed what it USED to be. The home I miss no longer exists, so there's nothing to go back to

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at August 14, 2023 12:40 PM (VTu1l)

Hard to go home if your old home has been knocked down and a parking lot built over it. Well, not my experience, but for others.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 14, 2023 12:41 PM (ynpvh)

252 I left my state and still miss it, but I missed what it USED to be. The home I miss no longer exists, so there's nothing to go back to
Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger

this is how I feel about Michigan, tho the lakes are still spectacular.

Posted by: BruceWayne at August 14, 2023 12:41 PM (CIS44)

253 what size is an se cupp?
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 14, 2023 12:40 PM

A See cup?

Posted by: Minnfidel at August 14, 2023 12:41 PM (GwxCX)

254 technology had made it possible for people to live in a world *without* the need for cities. There were holdouts who absolutely refused to leave, along with bandits and gangs that found them preferable. But for most people, they simply didn't need or want the city life anymore.

We may be seeing that transition now.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel



We are. The only reason businesses want white collar employees to return to the office is because of the real estate they don't want to write off. And, more and more people are not willing to put up with the trash that cities allow to roam the streets and violate the laws at will.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 14, 2023 12:42 PM (lTGtQ)

255 JJ, if you can make there, you can make it anywhere. What the song doesn't say, why the fuck would you want to make it there?

Posted by: Puddinhead at August 14, 2023 12:42 PM (J7wri)

256 Every place I've ever lived turned into a dumpster shortly after I left: South Seattle (didn't have far to slide, to be honest), Bellingham, San Francisco. Now the little SF suburb I live in is falling to pieces, too. The community park flies BLM and Gay Pride flags, the local newspaper is full of self-congratulations for inclusion and diversity and an endless quest for "affordable housing", the homeless population grows.

Posted by: kathysaysso at August 14, 2023 12:42 PM (yACxx)

257 >>I am going to Austin some time this Fall to shoot a mini-doc about the "Yogurt Shop Murders". I've only ever been to TX briefly (to get a tattoo in Ft. Worth when I was stationed at Ft. Sill), so not sure what to expect. I know Austin is considered a burgeoning cultural site, but I have an image of it being full of hippies and hipsters. Should be interesting.

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 14, 2023 12:38 PM

It is full of leftist assholes. Good music, though.

Posted by: huerfano at August 14, 2023 12:42 PM (7zEAH)

258 {{{SMH}}} !!!!

Posted by: creeper at August 14, 2023 12:43 PM (cTCuP)

259 Is the rat a Democrat?
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Democ 🐀

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at August 14, 2023 12:43 PM (krqg6)

260 It is full of leftist assholes. Good music, though.
Posted by: huerfan

and bbq

Posted by: BruceWayne at August 14, 2023 12:43 PM (CIS44)

261 Nothing of what I loved about the city in its various iterations is left. I don't even feel sad about it anymore.
Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at August 14, 2023 12:40 PM (fTtFy)

I was lucky enough to be able to live in Austin for the summer of '86 only (the sexicentennial year) It was still an amazing place then, the restaurants, the live music, everything. The Tech boom was just getting started. Last gasp of the glory days of Austin, I think.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 14, 2023 12:43 PM (i9ffA)

262 I marveled that an island whose economy is entirely dependent on tourism was so cavalier about how tourists were treated.

It was an interesting insight into Hawaiian governmental bureaucracy.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 14, 2023 12:40 PM (2tUFv)


It makes more sense if you remember that native Hawaiians are racist a**holes who live for a chance to screw over whitey (or anyone else).

Posted by: Dr. T at August 14, 2023 12:43 PM (bhRsz)

263 I feel bad for Maui like I would feel bad for some Chinese city if this had happened there. I mean I'm not laughing about it, but I'm not gonna lose any sleep over it either..
Posted by: Tom Servo


Yeah. I feel for them, but anyway...

Posted by: rickb223 at August 14, 2023 12:43 PM (nW4TA)

264 One of the fastest growing areas in the country is NW Arkansas, Fayetteville, Rogers, Springdale. Growth doesn't mean a better life. I went up to Lowell, a small town in the conglomerate that is NW AR a couple months ago to pick up a pistol at a shop. Outside of San Luis, Mexico, I have never seen so many signs in Spanish only. Talking to the guys in the shop, they believe the new arrivals aren't getting with the program on how to live here.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at August 14, 2023 12:43 PM (0EOe9)

265 Your experience in NYC is that of my wife and me with Austin. It was a different and wonderful place full of cowboys and hippies and struggling singers and funky lake dives. It’s now a toxic combination of woke Californians, tech millionaires, and street people. You can never go home again. Especially when home has been destroyed by the left.

yeah that destroyed it quickly, didn't they? I went to UT and no way in hell will my kids go there
Posted by: brak at August 14, 2023 12:38 PM (25k9m)



True.

I was shocked a few months ago when I went to Austin at all the (we would've called them "Dragworms" in the before times) bums/drug addicts living every fucking where under the highway overpasses etc. Even in "nice" areas.

It's just become a craphole.

Posted by: naturalfake at August 14, 2023 12:43 PM (QzZeQ)

266 Stay safe JJ. A friend of mine who has a home in the hills outside of town but still has family in the city is said almost the same thing about the deterioration in the last two years. I'll be to the city , albeit briefly, on 9/8 for a Yankees game. Going vin and out of the stadium my head will be on a swivel

Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 14, 2023 12:44 PM (R62ZP)

267
Thought experiment: When did the very first cities start to decline? 1970s. And as things get financially worse, more cities are going under.

When did we float the dollar? 1971.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 14, 2023 12:39 PM (lTGtQ)

I am not that guy, at all, but this actually is mere correlation.

Going fiat is not causal. This wasn't necessary. This is due to Finacialization not fiat. Fiat does not necessarily mean Financialization. The FIRE economy is a contingent development.

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 14, 2023 12:44 PM (c82Gn)

268 Don't forget the miles of roadway taken up by rental bike racks. In NYC it is CitiBike, which has taken over entire lanes...impeding the flow of traffic for 100s of thousands of cars, buses and trucks, all for the benefit of a few thousand hipster douchebags who ride to work.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 14, 2023 12:33 PM (A3700)


Well now it's going to be congestion pricing.

All of this is because the elites and politicans are angry that the poors are making them late for their dinner at Per Se.

They get support from the envious liberal assholes who hate that others are driving around and having freedom of movement, instead of being forced to go where ther city wants you to go, at a slow pace, and exorbitant price.


Posted by: Rbastid at August 14, 2023 12:44 PM (iGlwL)

269 Read an article today about how CHINA is starting to have issues with people living amongst the pipes in their undercity now, so I can only assume NYC's is every bit as bad as ever.

Posted by: American Hawkman at August 14, 2023 12:44 PM (skAOD)

270 JJ
Granddaughter of Diogenes #1 just returned to NY for her junior year at NYU. She and roommates found a tiny apartment down near the Bowery. Looks like a nice place. Only one stabbing so far.
Sheesh!

Posted by: Diogenes at August 14, 2023 12:44 PM (hv9bm)

271 Strange though in that while still living here in the aftermath of the lockdowns and the mostly peaceful rioting of 2020, I was inured to all of it or perhaps accepted it as par for the course.

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It's partly that. I have to return to Denver periodically, and realize that I'd just learned to accept an awful lot of awfulness that is shocking now that I live in a decent place.

But part of it is just rapid deterioration. Slowly, then all at once. I have several compadres who've said to me "you got out at the right time, man." "Bums are breaking into my box truck every week. I found a used condom in there!" "They're making us pay for groceries sacks, now!" "I'm getting engaged and my fiancee refuses to raise a family here." "This place doesn't fit with my values... I'm getting out soon."

Stuff I never heard even a year ago. But that might be that people feel ok venting to me, since I already did what they want to do. I dunno. But I'm hearing a lot of it.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 14, 2023 12:44 PM (0FoWg)

272 the stench of marijuana is omnipresent

This ain't unrelated to the squalor and decay. There's a big difference between recreational users and daily, habitual users.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at August 14, 2023 12:44 PM (ppBhU)

273 You can't live in the pipes in NY's under city...the rats would eat you

Posted by: steevy at August 14, 2023 12:45 PM (FQmDC)

274
Tyger! Tyger! burning bright
In the cities of the night,
What immortal hand or eye
Could frame thy fearful chalk outline?

Posted by: ShainS -- Misinflation, Disinflation, & Malinflation Researcher at August 14, 2023 12:45 PM (XC8Nd)

275 NYC turned around under Giuliani. It actually did. It completely changed. And then it went back down. Prob as low as it was in the 1970's and 80's now.

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 14, 2023 12:45 PM (c82Gn)

276 > I marveled that an island whose economy is entirely dependent on tourism was so cavalier about how tourists were treated.

It's island time. People in HI get to a task when they get to it. Nobody local has a sense of urgency.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 14, 2023 12:45 PM (0N1h0)

277 In the 90s, I would go on business-related visits to NYC fairly frequently. Thoroughly enjoyed those junkets. So sad to hear of the demise.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 14, 2023 12:45 PM (Xrfse)

278 245 what size is an se cupp?

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 14, 2023 12:40 PM (i9ffA)

Well, according to the intertubes, if strickly using (Circumference of bust - circumference under bust):
(ignoring AA, DD, DDD), Every 1" is another size, e.g.
1" = A
2" = B
...
19" = S
Not sure what the E suffix would be...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 14, 2023 12:45 PM (ynpvh)

279 I left my state and still miss it, but I missed what it USED to be. The home I miss no longer exists, so there's nothing to go back to
Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger


Yeah. South St. Louis City was Leave It To Beaver until right after we left in 1979.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 14, 2023 12:45 PM (nW4TA)

280 It makes more sense if you remember that native Hawaiians are racist a**holes who live for a chance to screw over whitey (or anyone else).
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This was taught to the locals by the Japs. Its the Japs get out of jail free card. They learned this technique from Yankees.

Posted by: Puddinhead at August 14, 2023 12:46 PM (J7wri)

281 and bbq

Posted by: BruceWayne at August 14, 2023 12:43 PM

I think that's Lockhart.

Posted by: huerfano at August 14, 2023 12:46 PM (7zEAH)

282 Just saw that the German government is considering outlawing the right-leaning opposition party. History rhymes about every 100 years...

Posted by: Ian S. at August 14, 2023 12:46 PM (2ocoG)

283 Heh. I don;t miss MA or CT. I've always always wanted to live in Florida. I love the sun and ocean. I've landed in Bethesda, MD and although blue as blue can be, still a pretty nice place for a 29 year old as long as I can get to VA for an occasional breath of freedom. Although I can't get up every day and put on a bathing suit, can do it a lot more often than I could in MA.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 14, 2023 12:46 PM (t/2Uw)

284 tho the lakes are still spectacular.
Posted by: BruceWayne

But are they REAL?

—Seinfeld

Posted by: db at August 14, 2023 12:46 PM (wu87C)

285 I miss the IDEA of a home to go back to... but in practice there is no such thing

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at August 14, 2023 12:46 PM (flINI)

286 Da Swamp is not what it was when I grew up, went to college, got married, etc. The "neighborhood-ness" is gone, except where fast-buck artists have emphasized the "neighborhood" flavor for $$$. See: French Quarter.

The place always did have lousy weather, bad streets, and crime. There was a kind of "cultcha" that made up for a tiny bit of that. Such "cultcha" is gone. Like JJ with NYC, I need to leave.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 14, 2023 12:47 PM (J2vNu)

287 I lived in Austin in the early 2000's. Traffic was awful on I-35, Research and Mopac. I can only imagine how horrific it is now.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 14, 2023 12:47 PM (TZ75n)

288 In the new TMNT movie Splinter is gay....

Posted by: steevy at August 14, 2023 12:31 PM (FQmDC)

And isn't April a fat black girl? Hollywood really will just constantly embarrass themselves to try and get the live odd people who will never like them.

Posted by: Rbastid at August 14, 2023 12:47 PM (iGlwL)

289 We lived in Western NY from 2006-2009. There was a luxury bus in our town of 5K that went in to NYC every day early in the morning and return late at night. Friends and I would go there at least once a month and have a ball. It didn't hurt that one of my friends had retired from Marriott as an Exec. and we could get a large suite at the JW Marriott for free along with entry in to the concierge lounge for appetizers and drinks at night. My last visit there was at Christmas time. Absolutely beautiful - Rockettes, Rockefeller Center, dressed up store windows, etc. I guess my memories will have to sustain me.

Posted by: Cheri at August 14, 2023 12:47 PM (oiNtH)

290 You can't live in the pipes in NY's under city...the rats would eat you

Posted by: steevy at August 14, 2023 12:45 PM (FQmDC)

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That could make for an interesting "Escape From New York 2: Snake v. Rats Boogaloo."

Posted by: ShainS -- Misinflation, Disinflation, & Malinflation Researcher at August 14, 2023 12:47 PM (XC8Nd)

291 If you had "Rupee worth more than Ruble" on your 2023 bingo card proceed to the front desk to collect your winnings.

Posted by: These Fish Sticks Are Hard As Tits at August 14, 2023 12:47 PM (iOt02)

292 279 The sounds of windows opening at sunset, parents yelling for their children to come in for the night.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at August 14, 2023 12:47 PM (0EOe9)

293 the stench of marijuana is omnipresent

This ain't unrelated to the squalor and decay. There's a big difference between recreational users and daily, habitual users.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls


If you are a recreational user and you use it every day, even just a little to "take the edge off", you are a daily, habitual user.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 14, 2023 12:47 PM (nW4TA)

294 288 In the new TMNT movie Splinter is gay....

Posted by: steevy at August 14, 2023 12:31 PM (FQmDC)

And isn't April a fat black girl? Hollywood really will just constantly embarrass themselves to try and get the live odd people who will never like them.

Posted by: Rbastid at August 14, 2023 12:47 PM (iGlwL)

Did they add any inter-species action?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 14, 2023 12:48 PM (ynpvh)

295 I lived briefly in Manhattan in the late 70s and it was a mess. Can't imagine why I thought I wanted to live there.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at August 14, 2023 12:48 PM (Mzdiz)

296 Argentina Devalues Peso, Hikes Rates After Libertarian Outsider's Shock Win In Presidential Primary

Posted by: SMOD at August 14, 2023 12:48 PM (RHGPo)

297 the stench of marijuana is omnipresent

with the recent waves of legalization, this is getting old really quickly

Posted by: brak at August 14, 2023 12:48 PM (25k9m)

298 One of the main election candidates for President in Argentina is Javier Milei, an outsider candidate of the "right wing" Libertad Avanza party

The candidates for this Fall's election are Milei, Patricia Bullworth, and the current minister of the economy, Sergio Massa
(I am fond of Argentine Politicians by the way, you wind up with surprising number of Irish and English names among the Italian and Spanish)

Milei is tagged as the "libertarian" candidate and has called [for an end to] the parasitic, thieving, useless political caste.

Among other things, Milei has said that he wants to adopt the US Dollar in place of the Argentine Peso, ban abortion, liberalize the sale of arms and open up a market for the sale of human organs.

The 52-year-old politician is an admirer of former US President Donald Trump Brazil's Jair Bolsinaro and has said that Argentina’s Central Bank should be abolished. He has also said climate change is a lie, characterised sex education as a ploy to destroy the family and said he would make it easier to own handguns.

In the 30 candidate primary, he was the front runner. There will be two more rounds in October and November

Posted by: Kindltot at August 14, 2023 12:49 PM (xhaym)

299 Oh well. One more day and then I depart for my new home. But, you can take the kid out of Brooklyn, but you'll never take Brooklyn out of the kid.


Brooklyn Roads
LA’s fine, but it’s not home,

Posted by: Fox 2! at August 14, 2023 12:49 PM (kAxyT)

300 Decay --->Devaluation. A decade from now expect an Marvelous Renaissance with all that real estate under new ownership.

Posted by: Mongerel at August 14, 2023 12:49 PM (UIpR+)

301 Argentina Devalues Peso, Hikes Rates After Libertarian Outsider's Shock Win In Presidential Primary
Posted by: SMOD

we'll show those uppity voters!

Posted by: BruceWayne at August 14, 2023 12:49 PM (CIS44)

302 297 the stench of marijuana is omnipresent

with the recent waves of legalization, this is getting old really quickly

Posted by: brak at August 14, 2023 12:48 PM (25k9m)

I'm not a particular fan of skunky smells...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 14, 2023 12:49 PM (ynpvh)

303 Lol if squares knew how strong pot was these days....

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 14, 2023 12:49 PM (c82Gn)

304 I can't believe my former oncologist wanted to move back there.

Posted by: jewells45 fuck cancer at August 14, 2023 12:49 PM (5iFFd)

305
Hard to go home if your old home has been knocked down and a parking lot built over it. Well, not my experience, but for others.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 14, 2023 12:41 PM (ynpvh)

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The small town in a National Forest area that we live in is being destroyed by a massive influx of people buying up houses and land and creating vacation rentals.

The people who lived here are being run out by massive rental and property tax increases. And our small town life is horribly disrupted by people who come, vacation for a week, make a mess, create ridiculous traffic issues then leave.

Then there are the ridiculous Sierra Club types who move in and try to get everything shut down that people do for a living here.

Posted by: Just Lily at August 14, 2023 12:49 PM (RLLZj)

306 >no one voted for the globalists to let millions of third world immigrants into every prosperous western nation -- every party is the same choice on that issue

Our political system supposes that if one party or official engages in an unpopular act other parties/individuals will run to oppose him and then reverse it on election.

The left figured out to game this by just making sure all candidates allowed to be "serious" support the same unpopular actions.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 14, 2023 12:49 PM (lc5cP)

307 Heh. I don;t miss MA or CT. I've always always wanted to live in Florida. I love the sun and ocean.


BTDT. Don't plan on owning anything metal. Even the humidity will mess stuff up.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 14, 2023 12:49 PM (nW4TA)

308 My wife has been to Austin a few times, she said she thinks I'd like it even if only for the food. I assume she meant BBQ. Coincidentally, she is headed to NYC tomorrow for a quick lunch before heading to the hinterlands of New Hampshire.

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 14, 2023 12:49 PM (2cS/G)

309 Hey jewells.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 14, 2023 12:49 PM (qhmjS)

310 "Prob as low as it was in the 1970's and 80's now"

Not there yet. Murder rate in NYC is still quite low relatively, even after some climb. IIRC around 650. it was 2200 back in the crack years. There are more murders in Chicago, which is far smaller.

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 14, 2023 12:49 PM (RqMSv)

311 I feel the same way on the rare occasion I am in downtown Dallas. I grew up about 30min from there and the whole county is unrecognizable now.

Posted by: reason at August 14, 2023 12:50 PM (Lq/su)

312 For some of us, this world was never our home.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 14, 2023 12:41 PM (qhmjS)


Hence my nic

Posted by: grammie winger - I don't belong here at August 14, 2023 12:50 PM (45fpk)

313 Why anyone would live in these third world shitholes, I do not know.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 14, 2023 12:38 PM (dGCAG)

The problem is the people turning them in to 3rd world shit holes are the ones leaving, off to ruin another town.

They like the idea of a 3rd world shit hole, because it means they're down to earth and casing about minorities, and then the second they sees a man shitting on the street they run.

There's no way liberals aren't a form of cancer.

Posted by: Rbastid at August 14, 2023 12:50 PM (iGlwL)

314 If you are a recreational user and you use it every day, even just a little to "take the edge off", you are a daily, habitual user.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 14, 2023 12:47 PM (nW4TA)

Like a functional alcoholic? My late hubby smoked every day and he was artistically productive, and productive at work as well.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at August 14, 2023 12:50 PM (Mzdiz)

315 @275

>>NYC turned around under Giuliani. It actually did. It completely changed. And then it went back down. Prob as low as it was in the 1970's and 80's now.

It turned around under Giuliani, but it had it's real renaissance during the 1st and 2nd Bloomberg terms, it was at the end of Bloomberg's 2nd term and into his third term where he went off the rails, largely because the city was running like a well oiled machine and he went Crazy Bananas due to boredom.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 14, 2023 12:50 PM (rc3Z7)

316 I forgot.

Ace said he's taking a 4-day weekend. [No criticism of the cobs meant.]

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at August 14, 2023 12:50 PM (krqg6)

317 Did they add any inter-species action?
==
Been there done that.

Posted by: Howard the Duck at August 14, 2023 12:50 PM (NGFVa)

318 Hard to go home if your old home has been knocked down and a parking lot built over it. Well, not my experience, but for others.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 14, 2023 12:41 PM (ynpvh)
++++
https://youtu.be/WgLr6qlpec4

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 14, 2023 12:50 PM (WkNQM)

319 I marveled that an island whose economy is entirely dependent on tourism was so cavalier about how tourists were treated.

It was an interesting insight into Hawaiian governmental bureaucracy.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 14, 2023 12:40 PM (2tUFv)


The Hawaiian government stooges are truly stupid. They're like small children who require coddling and lots of affirmation before they'll even begin to consider helping you. Plus, Hawaiians hate tourism. Envy that someone has the money to come and enjoy their weather has curdled their socialistic souls.

Posted by: kathysaysso at August 14, 2023 12:50 PM (yACxx)

320 Hence my nic
Posted by: grammie winger - I don't belong here at August 14, 2023 12:50 PM (45fpk)
___

*fistbump*

Amen. : )

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 14, 2023 12:50 PM (qhmjS)

321 Among other things, Milei has said that he wants to adopt the US Dollar in place of the Argentine Peso, ban abortion, liberalize the sale of arms and open up a market for the sale of human organs.

That last little part.....yeesh.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 14, 2023 12:51 PM (TZ75n)

322 305
Hard to go home if your old home has been knocked down and a parking lot built over it. Well, not my experience, but for others.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 14, 2023 12:41 PM (ynpvh)

------
The small town in a National Forest area that we live in is being destroyed by a massive influx of people buying up houses and land and creating vacation rentals.

The people who lived here are being run out by massive rental and property tax increases. And our small town life is horribly disrupted by people who come, vacation for a week, make a mess, create ridiculous traffic issues then leave.

Then there are the ridiculous Sierra Club types who move in and try to get everything shut down that people do for a living here.

Posted by: Just Lily at August 14, 2023 12:49 PM (RLLZj)

Why I love prop 13 in Kalifornia, even though just about every year they try to emasculate and gut it. I've lived in my house for almost 30 years, and only have to deal with tiny annual increases.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 14, 2023 12:51 PM (ynpvh)

323 Just saw that the German government is considering outlawing the right-leaning opposition party. History rhymes about every 100 years...

Posted by: Ian S.



Copycats.


- The DOJ

Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 14, 2023 12:51 PM (lTGtQ)

324 I went back to Ohio
But my pretty countryside
Had been paved down the middle
By a government that had no pride

duh-duh-duhduhduh-duh DA DADA

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 14, 2023 12:51 PM (i9ffA)

325 the stench of marijuana is omnipresent

with the recent waves of legalization, this is getting old really quickly
Posted by: brak at August 14, 2023 12:48 PM (25k9m)


What? You're telling me the 24/7 odor of a drug that smells like two skunks fell into a blender while mating doesn't strike you as progress?

Posted by: Dr. T at August 14, 2023 12:51 PM (bhRsz)

326 I grew up in California. 1971-1989. It was great. I went back in 2016 to attend a funeral. Barely recogized the city I spent 2 decades in. It's bigger, but I wouldn't say it's thriving. Like JJ said, it's dead, Jim.

Posted by: Darth Randall at August 14, 2023 12:52 PM (xT7BI)

327 I understand completely. The New York I grew up around and in is gone--great food, museums and the few jazz clubs left are not enough to go back.
Like you, it is all memories now

Posted by: donnyf at August 14, 2023 12:52 PM (fTdo6)

328 the stench of marijuana is omnipresent

with the recent waves of legalization, this is getting old really quickly

Posted by: brak at August 14, 2023 12:48 PM (25k9m)

I'm not a particular fan of skunky smells...
Posted by: jim


WTF happened? In the 70's, it took a lot to get you high, but it didn't smell like skunk spray. Now, it doesn't take much, but it smells like a skunk hoedown.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 14, 2023 12:52 PM (nW4TA)

329 It's just become a craphole.
Posted by: naturalfake at August 14, 2023


***
We have a lovely homeless tent city beneath the expressway at the river, right near the Convention Center. Not that I expect any conventioneers to see it.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 14, 2023 12:52 PM (J2vNu)

330 > the stench of marijuana is omnipresent

I hate the smell of marijuana so much. I'd rather smell alley piss than some asscrack smelling skunk weed smoke. Unfortunately in Seattle, you're likely to smell both at the same time.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 14, 2023 12:52 PM (0N1h0)

331 313 Why anyone would live in these third world shitholes, I do not know.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 14, 2023 12:38 PM (dGCAG)

The problem is the people turning them in to 3rd world shit holes are the ones leaving, off to ruin another town.

They like the idea of a 3rd world shit hole, because it means they're down to earth and casing about minorities, and then the second they sees a man shitting on the street they run.

There's no way liberals aren't a form of cancer.

Posted by: Rbastid at August 14, 2023 12:50 PM (iGlwL)

Unless they're a fungal, bacterial, or viral infection. Or prions.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 14, 2023 12:52 PM (ynpvh)

332 "Current Maui Police Chief Was Incident Commander During 2017 Las Vegas Massacre

.. the guy is a "disaster magnet""

Now, now, two times might be coincidence. You have to move him somewhere else and see if some massive bad thing happens again to be sure he's a disaster magnet.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at August 14, 2023 12:52 PM (ou9hh)

333 It turned around under Giuliani, but it had it's real renaissance during the 1st and 2nd Bloomberg terms, it was at the end of Bloomberg's 2nd term and into his third term where he went off the rails, largely because the city was running like a well oiled machine and he went Crazy Bananas due to boredom.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 14, 2023 12:50 PM (rc3Z7)

Fair. Personally, I think it peaked v early in Bloomberg's 1st term.

That's a great explanation of Bloomberg.

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 14, 2023 12:52 PM (c82Gn)

334 Just saw that the German government is considering outlawing the right-leaning opposition party. History rhymes about every 100 years...

They're polling over 20% in the polls, don't support the Perpetual Ukraine War, and are the only German political party asking questions about who blew up the Nordstream pipelines

Of course they have to be banned.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 14, 2023 12:53 PM (2tUFv)

335 166 when I lived in Philly the fun of riding my bike around was dodging, well, just about everything...but especially getting a sixth sense about what parked car door was about to open right in your path.

It kept us alert. We didn't need no stinkin' bike lanes!
Posted by: kallisto at August 14, 2023 12:29 PM (dCxaZ)

I always looked at the side mirror on the car, if I saw a face I'd watch for the door.

Posted by: Splinter at August 14, 2023 12:53 PM (53oGX)

336 she said she thinks I'd like it even if only for the food

************

The food is not bad, i think it was there where i had chocolate bacon and lived to tell about it

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at August 14, 2023 12:53 PM (VTu1l)

337 It's wonderful if you suspend disbelief. Roy is what, 4 years old? How did he get to deep space and back? FTL travel, yet they can't keep him alive?
Posted by: Archimedes at August 14, 2023 12:32 PM (eOEVl)


They were designed to break down and die.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 14, 2023 12:53 PM (xhaym)

338 "I'm just a kid from Brooklyn"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton and Steve Rogers at August 14, 2023 12:53 PM (1WSeq)

339 off Ratt sock

Posted by: Inogame at August 14, 2023 12:53 PM (53oGX)

340 Just saw that the German government is considering outlawing the right-leaning opposition party. History rhymes about every 100 years...

and their only real sin is calling for limits on immigration -- so they're dangerous and must be banned, for the public's own good

Posted by: brak at August 14, 2023 12:53 PM (25k9m)

341 Why anyone would live in these third world shitholes, I do not know.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 14, 2023 12:38 PM (dGCAG)
++++
Third world shitholes are pretty great if you're upper crust. You get whatever you want and live above the fifth floor where everything glimmers.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 14, 2023 12:53 PM (WkNQM)

342 I hate the smell of marijuana so much. I'd rather smell alley piss than some asscrack smelling skunk weed smoke. Unfortunately in Seattle, you're likely to smell both at the same time.
Posted by: bonhomme at August 14, 2023 12:52 PM (0N1h0)


Having smelled alley piss--and even worse, subway piss--I second this opinion 110%.

Posted by: Dr. T at August 14, 2023 12:54 PM (bhRsz)

343 287 I lived in Austin in the early 2000's. Traffic was awful on I-35, Research and Mopac. I can only imagine how horrific it is now.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 14, 2023 12:47 PM (TZ75n)

I can assure you that traffic stops below San Marcos these days.

Posted by: Mongerel at August 14, 2023 12:54 PM (UIpR+)

344 > Hard to go home if your old home has been knocked down and a parking lot built over it.

My bunker is now under a parking lot.

Posted by: Zombie Hitler at August 14, 2023 12:54 PM (0N1h0)

345 267 Child, please. Philly, Buffalo, Detroit all collapsed well before we.went off the gold standard.

Posted by: Regular joe at August 14, 2023 12:55 PM (nnp+f)

346 How was she forced? How can she be forced to recuse herself from Trump's case? Or is it really just a choice she gets to make?

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 14, 2023 12:40 PM (t/2Uw)


Considering the entire point isn't conviction, but just damaging Trump for 2024, there is no reason for her to recuse herself.

Worse comes to worse Trump wins election, she retires to an 8 figure a year late firm job, any conviction gets thrown out, and there are no consequences for anyone involved.

If things do work out Trump loses in 2024, Democrats decide the role of law doesn't matter, they arrest and confine Trump without trial until his death, and they fortify every steal until we cease to exist as a country.

There's no downsides to Democrats refusing to follow the law, and no one to hold them accountable, so they just do what they want.

Posted by: Rbastid at August 14, 2023 12:55 PM (iGlwL)

347 Hard to go home if your old home has been knocked down and a parking lot built over it. Well, not my experience, but for others.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 14, 2023 12:41 PM (ynpvh)


Sighs
The home of my teen years is a par!ing lot for a medical clinic.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 14, 2023 12:55 PM (hv9bm)

348
That could make for an interesting "Escape From New York 2: Snake v. Rats Boogaloo."
Posted by: ShainS


When you're a Rat you're a Rat all the way.
From your first bite of pizza till your dying day.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 14, 2023 12:56 PM (63Dwl)

349 E and above are multiples of D, so E=DD, and so on

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - these lying liars have been lying for decades at August 14, 2023 12:56 PM (vbuLV)

350 And there was nothing but ranches from Mew Braunfels to San Marcos. Same from San Marcos to Buda.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 14, 2023 12:56 PM (TZ75n)

351 Just saw that the German government is considering outlawing the right-leaning opposition party. History rhymes about every 100 years...

They're polling over 20% in the polls, don't support the Perpetual Ukraine War, and are the only German political party asking questions about who blew up the Nordstream pipelines

Of course they have to be banned.

Posted by: The ARC of History!


The voters cannot be allowed to choose the people that run the country.

In Holland, the farmer party got the most seats in parliament. The 'right' party and the socialists coordinated to use their seats to keep a leftist agenda in power. Then, they could not get enough votes to pass legislation harmful to the people, so they resigned.

Walking out on governance is apparently preferable to doing what the voters want.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 14, 2023 12:56 PM (lTGtQ)

352 305 Everybody has a thing to do list if they hit the lottery, even if they don't play. One of mine is to really piss off a bunch of Sierra Club types, like open a small steel mill with a coke battery, or maybe a burn tires to energy operation. Employ a bunch of people at a good wage who would be happy to string up the Tin Cup Sierra Club crowd.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at August 14, 2023 12:57 PM (0EOe9)

353 E and above are multiples of D, so E=DD, and so on
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - these lying liars have been lying for decades at August 14, 2023 12:56 PM (vbuLV)
++++
So is F DDD, or is F DDDD? Is it an addition of a single D, or is it a doubling?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 14, 2023 12:57 PM (WkNQM)

354 Stop and frisk under Rudy got guns off the street. Bad guys realized they didn't need to carry because other bad guys weren't, and the odds were higher of getting caught.

After this succeeded. Mayor Mike ordered that stop and frisk be increased over 6x. This backfired. ANd justifibaly pissed off locals. If you got tossed but didn't have a gun, but had a dime bag, you went to jail untol you got arraigned, which meant two days of lock up in an overcrowded holding cell. Outrage over this was a big factor in DiBlasio's win.

Mayor Mike is a dictator at heart.

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 14, 2023 12:57 PM (RqMSv)

355 Like a functional alcoholic? My late hubby smoked every day and he was artistically productive, and productive at work as well.
Posted by: Miley


Yeah. And both grandparents on mom's side were functional alcoholics.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 14, 2023 12:57 PM (nW4TA)

356 After more than 50 years of efforts to implement a toll program that would slash greenhouse emissions from cars and reduce congestion in lower Manhattan, the plan cleared a milestone in May, when the federal government signed off on the release of an environmental assessment.

Then, last month, New Jersey sued to block the plan, citing the National Environmental Policy Act of 1970 (NEPA). The law requires federal agencies to give a detailed assessment of the environmental impact before approving projects that could significantly alter the environmental landscape.

Posted by: SMOD at August 14, 2023 12:57 PM (RHGPo)

357 Yeah April is a short ,dumpy black girl. I mean Seth Rogen made the movie so you know it is shit

Posted by: steevy at August 14, 2023 12:58 PM (FQmDC)

358 They're polling over 20% in the polls, don't support the Perpetual Ukraine War, and are the only German political party asking questions about who blew up the Nordstream pipelines

Of course they have to be banned.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 14, 2023 12:53 PM (2tUFv)


It was inevitable. For years the other parties have banded together in a sort of "firewall" to keep the AfD out of power by refusing to form coalitions with them. But with the levels of support the party currently has, that isn't really going to work anymore, and AfD members have started winning more and more elections on the local level. If they really believe the party is a "dire threat to democracy," there's only one place left to go.

Posted by: Dr. T at August 14, 2023 12:58 PM (bhRsz)

359 55 Also, Kathleen Kennedy is selling her Malibu house, presumably to leave CA. Whatever could that portend?
Posted by: Archimedes at August 14, 2023 12:14 PM (eOEVl)


*shrugs*

Posted by: Doomcocktease at August 14, 2023 12:58 PM (DTX3h)

360 I was in Quebec City last week and met a guy from Buenos Aires. When I told him I was from New York, he told me he just cancelled his stay in New York City because it was so disgusting and dangerous. He remembers when New York City was a great place to visit about 10 years ago. He said the place is repulsive and disgraceful.

When you've lost Buenos Aires, New York. . .

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 14, 2023 12:58 PM (lf83v)

361 Now, now, two times might be coincidence. You have to move him somewhere else and see if some massive bad thing happens again to be sure he's a disaster magnet.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at August 14, 2023 12:52 PM

I think Uvalde TX, is looking for a new chief.

Posted by: Minnfidel at August 14, 2023 12:58 PM (GwxCX)

362 At least we aren't living in concrete pipes.

https://tinyurl.com/2p84ujya

Posted by: Archimedes at August 14, 2023 12:58 PM (eOEVl)

363 Everybody in this pesthole yammers endlessly about "the music" and "the food" as reasons why they stay. Good music can be had on CD; good food can be prepared anywhere. None of that is worth putting up with the disaster area that is this city.

Mardi Gras? Annual insanity, street blockage, noise.

Jazz Fest? When they hold it in an air-conditioned venue, or move it to January or February, I might consider . . . No, actually I wouldn't. Too crowded. Any event where you can't bring and park your own car easily, but have to take a bus to get to the venue? Forget it.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 14, 2023 12:59 PM (J2vNu)

364 If they really believe the party is a "dire threat to democracy," there's only one place left to go.
Posted by: Dr. T at August 14, 2023 12:58 PM (bhRsz)

Um excuse me AfD is a threat to "our democracy" not "democracy".

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 14, 2023 12:59 PM (c82Gn)

365 technology had made it possible for people to live in a world *without* the need for cities.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 14, 2023 12:38 PM (YIVH2)


I read a fascinating analysis of this point a few years ago. The writer was comparing the financial crash of 2007-2009 to the Covid lockdowns.

He suggested that people stayed in NYC 15 years ago because they had to go to the office. But technology has improved bandwidth and collaborative systems so much in just a few years that people can now work anywhere, and some people will quit rather than go back to the big city.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 14, 2023 12:59 PM (A3700)

366 They're polling over 20% in the polls, don't support the Perpetual Ukraine War,
__________

You mean the European Weapons Testing and Proving Grounds.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 14, 2023 12:59 PM (lf83v)

367 > Stop and frisk under Rudy got guns off the street. Bad guys realized they didn't need to carry because other bad guys weren't, and the odds were higher of getting caught.

There was a Ring doorbell video of a gang shootout that went viral the other day. The gang bangers weren't carrying their guns. The guns were in an unlocked car right in front of their hangout stoop. I'm sure if the cops roll up, someone locks the car using a remote key fob and all the brothers melt away in different directions without a care in the world.

Posted by: Zombie Hitler at August 14, 2023 01:00 PM (0N1h0)

368 Here's the thing with weed. First of all, public drinking isn't legal. People do it, but you can actually get arrested for it. Not so with weed. It gets a pass - even though it's also illegal. The same DPD gun thug who'd fuck you over for drinking whisky on a street corner won't bat an eye at a joint-smoker.

And of course, that's only for otherwise solid citizens. If you're a vagrant or an illegal, anything goes. Public weed smoking is just the smallest infraction they commit with impunity on a daily basis.

They're *special.*

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 14, 2023 01:00 PM (0FoWg)

369 It turned around under Giuliani, but it had it's real renaissance during the 1st and 2nd Bloomberg terms, it was at the end of Bloomberg's 2nd term and into his third term where he went off the rails, largely because the city was running like a well oiled machine and he went Crazy Bananas due to boredom.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 14, 2023 12:50 PM (rc3Z7)


Yeah, Giuliani did all the dirty work, so that Bloomberg could come in and create his stupid soda size laws.

It's funny how Giuliani is the fascist, and Bloomberg the great centrist, yet only one of them fought to change election rules so they can try and control the city forever.

Posted by: Rbastid at August 14, 2023 01:00 PM (iGlwL)

370 219 https://is.gd/DPDapg
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 14, 2023 12:33 PM (WkNQM)

***

The resemblance to S E Cupp is a disqualifier
Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at August 14, 2023 12:37 PM (flINI)

What's E Cupp's grift these days?

Posted by: Inogame at August 14, 2023 01:00 PM (53oGX)

371 366 Also kickbacks and graft bonanza of the century....

Posted by: steevy at August 14, 2023 01:00 PM (FQmDC)

372 @358

>>For years the other parties have banded together in a sort of "firewall" to keep the AfD out of power by refusing to form coalitions with them.

This is essentially how Fidel Castro's bastard Child keeps getting to be PM.

He and his party get something like 30pct of the vote but because all of the leftist groups don't want conservatives anywhere near power, they form a block and put that twat bag in as PM.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 14, 2023 01:01 PM (rc3Z7)

373 F=DDD, G=DDDD ...

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - these lying liars have been lying for decades at August 14, 2023 01:01 PM (vbuLV)

374 Off reichtard sock.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 14, 2023 01:01 PM (0N1h0)

375 Sighs
The home of my teen years is a par!ing lot for a medical clinic.
Posted by: Diogenes at August 14, 2023


***
The street gate of the place where I grew up from 6 to 23 is still there. But I have no idea what lies behind it, if one of the businesses around it have bought it and expanded into its space, or what.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 14, 2023 01:02 PM (J2vNu)

376 353 E and above are multiples of D, so E=DD, and so on
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - these lying liars have been lying for decades at August 14, 2023 12:56 PM (vbuLV)
++++
So is F DDD, or is F DDDD? Is it an addition of a single D, or is it a doubling?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 14, 2023 12:57 PM (WkNQM)

Annie Hawkins-Turner, 54, is internationally known but not for any particular talent.
She is famous for having the world's largest natural breast, with a bra size of 102ZZZ. No, that's not a typo, she is a triple Z.
Annie, currently holds the Guinness World Record for the largest natural breasts in the world, weighing in at 89.6 pounds.


https://is.gd/m3Oqak
[may be NSFW]

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 14, 2023 01:02 PM (ynpvh)

377 This ain't unrelated to the squalor and decay. There's a big difference between recreational users and daily, habitual users.
----------
I've discovered a new oxymoron: marijuana industry after reading this:

||A major problem underlying the cannabis industry’s continuing financial struggles has been overcapacity. In provinces that allow private retailers, there are too many shops competing for too few customers to cover costs. And nationwide, producers have been making more cannabis than the retailers need.

Four years ago, the industry looked promising. In 2019, Ontario’s first 24 licensed cannabis shops opened with a bang. Those privately-owned retailers initially averaged about $1-million in monthly sales each, thanks to minimal legal competition and average prices above $12 a gram.||

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at August 14, 2023 01:02 PM (krqg6)

378 There was a Ring doorbell video of a gang shootout that went viral the other day. The gang bangers weren't carrying their guns. The guns were in an unlocked car right in front of their hangout stoop. I'm sure if the cops roll up, someone locks the car using a remote key fob and all the brothers melt away in different directions without a care in the world.
Posted by: Zombie Hitler


PD rolls up, brothas melt away. Cops sees gun. Breaks window and tosses in a thermite grenade.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 14, 2023 01:02 PM (nW4TA)

379 My daughter lives in Manhattan….pays 9k month rent. Three times my mortgage payment here in The Sip for 10x less square footage.

Her level of stupid and that of her boyfriend is incomprehensible. He ought to freaking know better. He’s 35; she’s 25. They could go anywhere else and do better, but living in a high rise in Manhattan was top of the bucket list, even if it ruins them. And it will. They cannot afford it and have no savings for emergencies. One hiccup and they are done.

Dad and I agree that we would not be bailing them out of financial ruin. We warned, we begged, we were ignored. So be it.

Posted by: Miss Issippi at August 14, 2023 01:02 PM (9CTr8)

380 Triple Z? Holy bazingas

Posted by: steevy at August 14, 2023 01:03 PM (FQmDC)

381 People who talk up marijuana by saying "Oh, but it's a natural substance!" always get mad when I answer "So's arsenic."

Posted by: Dr. T at August 14, 2023 01:03 PM (bhRsz)

382 (in theory, there is a second road, which is famous for being one of the most dangerous roads in the United States, and the rental car companies prohibit using that road).

Why is the other road so dangerous? Bandits?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 14, 2023 01:03 PM (aD39U)

383 > If you're a vagrant or an illegal, anything goes. Public weed smoking is just the smallest infraction they commit with impunity on a daily basis.

I regularly see homeless in Seattle open carrying improvised weapons; pipes, big screwdrivers, heavy sticks, etc. SPD doesn't bat an eye.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 14, 2023 01:03 PM (0N1h0)

384 He and his party get something like 30pct of the vote but because all of the leftist groups don't want conservatives anywhere near power, they form a block and put that twat bag in as PM.
------------------
You need a Franco to split the anarchists and socialists and get them fighting one another. Blue on blue is a wonderful thing to watch.

Posted by: Puddinhead at August 14, 2023 01:03 PM (J7wri)

385 I think NY needs Street Judges, the time has come

Posted by: steevy at August 14, 2023 01:03 PM (FQmDC)

386 It was an interesting insight into Hawaiian governmental bureaucracy.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 14, 2023 12:40 PM (2tUFv)


The backpedaling has already started RE Maui. A lot of crap going on. It will be interesting to see what gets published.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 14, 2023 01:05 PM (hv9bm)

387 I've discovered a new oxymoron: marijuana industry after reading this:

driving from across the Midwest down to Texas and back every other billbaord is for a pot store -- some small towns will have as many dispensaries as they do gas stations

Posted by: brak at August 14, 2023 01:05 PM (25k9m)

388 Why I love prop 13 in Kalifornia, even though just about every year they try to emasculate and gut it. I've lived in my house for almost 30 years, and only have to deal with tiny annual increases.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 14, 2023 12:51 PM (ynpvh)

----
We haven't had to deal with property values going up 40% in a year before though so it definitely wasn't expected.

We do have a law that taxes can only go up 10% a year, unless the property sells. Which means if your landlord sells out because suddenly his property has doubled in value, well the new owner is going to have to really hike his rent. That's what's happening here. I am unaware of any rental property that hasn't changed hands in the last couple of years. Our average rent in town has gone from 800$ a month to 1300$ in two years

This is not sustainable. But it shows no sign of stopping.

Posted by: Just Lily at August 14, 2023 01:05 PM (RLLZj)

389 People who talk up marijuana by saying "Oh, but it's a natural substance!" always get mad when I answer "So's arsenic."
Posted by: Dr. T

--

I tried to have that discussion once but the guy kept forgetting what we were talking about.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The EPA has determined US has cooled since 1948 at August 14, 2023 01:05 PM (NdB+W)

390 I Imagine in a few years J.J.coming back to NYC
like the last scene from Planet of the Apes with him screaming, "You maniacs! You F'd it up! Damn you Democrats... look what you've done.. damn you all to h*ll."
And his wife coming to the realization that J.J. is right and nodding in agreement.

Posted by: redridinghood at August 14, 2023 01:05 PM (NpAcC)

391 381 People who talk up marijuana by saying "Oh, but it's a natural substance!" always get mad when I answer "So's arsenic."

Posted by: Dr. T at August 14, 2023 01:03 PM (bhRsz)

and poison oak and poison ivy. Why don't ya smoke some of that too? 100% natural!

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 14, 2023 01:05 PM (ynpvh)

392 What's E Cupp's grift these days?
Posted by: Inogame at August 14, 2023 01:00 PM

Saggy tits and lib talking points?

Posted by: Minnfidel at August 14, 2023 01:05 PM (GwxCX)

393 'Morning, Jewells. You're looking good this fine Monday.

Posted by: creeper at August 14, 2023 01:05 PM (cTCuP)

394 @369

>>It's funny how Giuliani is the fascist, and Bloomberg the great centrist, yet only one of them fought to change election rules so they can try and control the city forever.

Actually, Giuliani attempted to get the term limits laws changed but was rebuffed.

Bloomberg, may at the end of the day, be a leftist asshole, but he was also smart enough to understand he inherited, for the lack of a better construction, a solid business plan and model and he continued executing it.

The success of NYC under his administration was what ultimately forced me out of the now increasingly crowded and increasingly expensive city.

As I said, his third term was simply him becoming a Mad Titan with nothing really left to accomplish and goin off the rails.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 14, 2023 01:05 PM (rc3Z7)

395 > PD rolls up, brothas melt away. Cops sees gun. Breaks window and tosses in a thermite grenade.

Nah, they're out of view under a blanket or something easy to remove.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 14, 2023 01:06 PM (0N1h0)

396 People who talk up marijuana by saying "Oh, but it's a natural substance!" always get mad when I answer "So's arsenic."
Posted by: Dr. T at August 14, 2023 01:03 PM (bhRsz)
++++
Hemlock is 100%, so be sure to offer a nice cup of tea to your friends.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 14, 2023 01:06 PM (WkNQM)

397 The last trip I took back East, I asked my authors t to drive me past my grandparents' old house. When I was a small kid, my grandparents owned the lot them house sat on and the lot next door. My grandfather had combined the two lots and created his own park. It was beautiful and I loved it.

Glad warned me that I was going to be disappointed, and boy was she right. Someone had broken the two properties in half again, cut down the beautiful landscaping, and built the most godawful Cape Cod style cottage on it that apparently no one gave a damn about. My grandparents' house looked like it was close to falling down, the yard was nothing but a weed patch, and, again, all the beautiful landscaping had been torn out.

They've right: you can't go home again. But no one can rip my memories of what my grandfather had created out of my brain.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin -- Persian cats are nothing more than 24/7 shedding machines. at August 14, 2023 01:06 PM (B7rlW)

398 Oh well. One more day and then I depart for my new home. But, you can take the kid out of Brooklyn, but you'll never take Brooklyn out of the kid.

You'll always have the Bridge and the Dodgers.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 14, 2023 01:06 PM (BHbx2)

399 Going fiat is not causal. This wasn't necessary. This is due to Finacialization not fiat. Fiat does not necessarily mean Financialization. The FIRE economy is a contingent development.
Posted by: Thesokorus at August 14, 2023 12:44 PM (c82Gn)


fiat allows fiscalization, and fiat always fails because it requires that a government made of venal and self serving people not print "just a little extry" to fund their favorite things.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 14, 2023 01:06 PM (xhaym)

400 Triple Z was Vin Diesel's weirdest film.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at August 14, 2023 01:06 PM (ppBhU)

401 Heh. Just looked across the way and the old (like I should talk) couple have their kids stopping by. Kids are on a road trip, and have been stopping in for a visit and shower the past few days. Kids were outside, having a smoke, and the two field stripped 'em and threw them in the Old Man's pickup. I smoke, and I hate cigarette butts on the ground. Good for them, policed up too many in my day.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at August 14, 2023 01:06 PM (0EOe9)

402 Safe travels JJ !

Posted by: JT at August 14, 2023 01:06 PM (T4tVD)

403 My daughter lives in Manhattan….pays 9k month rent.


$108,000.

I pay $14,400 a year. $1200/month. 3 bedroom, 2 bath custom built home.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 14, 2023 01:07 PM (nW4TA)

404 Beautiful and heartbreaking, JJ. Wait until you are away for several years and return. It will not be cognizable. I'm not a native but spent mostly happen years living and working in NYC as a young man. I didn't visit from 2016 until earlier this year. The return trip was devastating and far more than the normal change someone would expect to transpire over a period of less than six years. Friends and family there realize it is horrible but the plummet is somewhat mitigated by being there during the collapse.

It isn't coming back, and as you write, most of the rest of the nation is joining it on the garbage heap. There likely is nothing that any of us could have done to stop the descent but that's little comfort.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at August 14, 2023 01:07 PM (KSNKu)

405 Triple Z? Holy bazingas
Posted by: steevy at August 14, 2023 01:03 PM

That's actually gross. Anything past a D is a waste.

Posted by: Minnfidel at August 14, 2023 01:07 PM (GwxCX)

406 People who talk up marijuana by saying "Oh, but it's a natural substance!" always get mad when I answer "So's arsenic."
Posted by: Dr. T at August 14, 2023 01:03 PM (bhRsz)
++++
Hemlock is 100%, so be sure to offer a nice cup of tea to your friends.
________________

Ahem!

Posted by: Asbestos at August 14, 2023 01:08 PM (lf83v)

407 Annie Hawkins-Turner, 54, is internationally known but not for any particular talent.
She is famous for having the world's largest natural breast, with a bra size of 102ZZZ. No, that's not a typo, she is a triple Z.
Annie, currently holds the Guinness World Record for the largest natural breasts in the world, weighing in at 89.6 pounds.

https://is.gd/m3Oqak
[may be NSFW]
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 14, 2023 01:02 PM (ynpvh)

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Wonder if the woman on the left is her daughter?

Posted by: ShainS -- Misinflation, Disinflation, & Malinflation Researcher at August 14, 2023 01:08 PM (y+d3b)

408 ruins them. And it will. They cannot afford it and have no savings for emergencies. One hiccup and they are done.

Dad and I agree that we would not be bailing them out of financial ruin. We warned, we begged, we were ignored. So be it.
Posted by: Miss Issippi at August 14, 2023 01:02 PM (9CTr
******
But they are able to post great pictures on social media of the fabulous lifestyle they are living.

Posted by: redridinghood at August 14, 2023 01:09 PM (NpAcC)

409 People who talk up marijuana by saying "Oh, but it's a natural substance!" always get mad when I answer "So's arsenic."

Posted by: Dr. T at August 14, 2023 01:03 PM (bhRsz)


Well these same people, who probably still mask, don't understand that inhaling burning embers in any form is bad for you. If you set a tomato on fire and breath in the smoke and ash it will hurt you.

If only darwinism worked on an accelerated pace, we'd be better off.

Posted by: Rbastid at August 14, 2023 01:09 PM (iGlwL)

410 I think NY needs Street Judges, the time has come
___________

I am the law.

Posted by: Judge Dredd at August 14, 2023 01:09 PM (lf83v)

411 Read an article today about how CHINA is starting to have issues with people living amongst the pipes in their undercity now, so I can only assume NYC's is every bit as bad as ever.
Posted by: American Hawkman at August 14, 2023 12:44 PM (skAOD)


in 2018 there was an issue with people living in storage units in NYC. They were cheaper than any apartment and were often more secure.

Interestingly enough in Asuncion Paraguay at the same time there was an issue with prostitutes using storage units as mini-bordellos. Some of which were tastefully painted up on the outside to attract customers.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 14, 2023 01:09 PM (xhaym)

412 "Triple Z was Vin Diesel's weirdest film."

Even weirder than being paid millions to say nothing but, "I am Groot" a bunch of times?

Posted by: bonhomme at August 14, 2023 01:09 PM (0N1h0)

413 405 Triple Z? Holy bazingas
Posted by: steevy at August 14, 2023 01:03 PM

That's actually gross. Anything past a D is a waste.

Posted by: Minnfidel at August 14, 2023 01:07 PM (GwxCX)

She said she was afraid to breastfeed he kids lest she smother them, so yeah, probably. And who wants to carry around an extra 70 or 80 POUNDS in front of them?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 14, 2023 01:09 PM (ynpvh)

414 That's actually gross. Anything past a D is a waste.

Posted by: Minnfidel at August 14, 2023 01:07 PM (GwxCX)

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As my small-breasted first love used to say: "Anything more than a mouthful is a waste."

Posted by: ShainS -- Misinflation, Disinflation, & Malinflation Researcher at August 14, 2023 01:09 PM (y+d3b)

415 meh, only if you think elections are on the up & up; otherwise, maybe not so much.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - these lying liars have been lying for decades at August 14, 2023 12:22 PM (vbuLV)
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so you think the five boroughs are secretly Trump bastions?

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 14, 2023 01:09 PM (5v131)

416 It was an interesting insight into Hawaiian governmental bureaucracy.

--

I've said since the beginning that we would discover that what's happening now is entirely because of government mismanagement of resources.

It just came out that they didn't bother sending out alerts - that they were apparently testing weekly - and instead let people die in the fires.

NBC News:


"But the Hawaii Emergency Management Agency said it had no record of any warning sirens with Maui's Emergency Alert System being triggered on Tuesday, department spokesperson Adam Weintraub said...

A request for comment from the Maui County Emergency Management Agency on why the outdoor sirens were not triggered was not immediately returned Friday."

https://tinyurl.com/582ywwdu

Expect more and more of this, along with people noticing that undergrowth wasn't cleared on public land similar to how California encourages all of their fires.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The EPA has determined US has cooled since 1948 at August 14, 2023 01:10 PM (NdB+W)

417 I was thinking about my move the other day. In the middle of the mess at UHaul, I had this vision of the Texaco commercials from the 60s. It wasn't that I craved white employees to take care of my order. I wanted that competence, someone that could do it right the first time. We've lost that, across industries.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at August 14, 2023 01:10 PM (ouTlx)

418 PD rolls up, brothas melt away. Cops sees gun. Breaks window and tosses in a thermite grenade.

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They don't do that in the hood anymore. That kind of reaction is limited to obese, wheelchair-bound geriatrics from Utah.

Posted by: REALLY Dark Brandon at August 14, 2023 01:10 PM (ji3Wy)

419 @405

>>That's actually gross. Anything past a D is a waste.

C Cups are the perfect size, D's depend on the relative size of the woman.

And yes, anything past D is challenging.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 14, 2023 01:10 PM (rc3Z7)

420 323 Just saw that the German government is considering outlawing the right-leaning opposition party. History rhymes about every 100 years...

Posted by: Ian S.



Copycats.


- The DOJ
Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 14, 2023 12:51 PM (lTGtQ)

100% chance this would overtly happen if there was a REAL 3rd party that sprung up.
D's and R's and the DOJ would make sure it was aborted better than Sanger every envisioned.

Posted by: Inogame at August 14, 2023 01:10 PM (53oGX)

421 412 "Triple Z was Vin Diesel's weirdest film."

Even weirder than being paid millions to say nothing but, "I am Groot" a bunch of times?

Posted by: bonhomme at August 14, 2023 01:09 PM (0N1h0)

It's all in the inflection.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 14, 2023 01:11 PM (ynpvh)

422 Whoever does the Fox online headlines is a dumbass.
The headline talks about Russian fighter jets, the picture is a Bear turboprop bomber.
Idiots.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 14, 2023 01:11 PM (hv9bm)

423 City governments...

The capitol city has a pretty corrupt and inept one. It wasn't always like that either. Rumors of some sort of appeasement deal with the local agitators back in the late 70's might have something to do with it.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 14, 2023 01:12 PM (Q4IgG)

424 422 Whoever does the Fox online headlines is a dumbass.
The headline talks about Russian fighter jets, the picture is a Bear turboprop bomber.
Idiots.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 14, 2023 01:11 PM (hv9bm)

Bear = Russian, right?--MSM

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 14, 2023 01:12 PM (ynpvh)

425 People who talk up marijuana by saying "Oh, but it's a natural substance!"

So is tobacco. Boy, did the gov't's tune change on that one!

Posted by: t-bird at August 14, 2023 01:12 PM (Sv58p)

426 The headline talks about Russian fighter jets, the picture is a Bear turboprop bomber.
__________

But it identifies as a fighter.

Posted by: Lydia Litvyak at August 14, 2023 01:13 PM (lf83v)

427 Hi, SMH. Long time no talk.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 14, 2023 01:14 PM (xTRSc)

428 they could be, Huck; my point is, we'll never know for sure.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - these lying liars have been lying for decades at August 14, 2023 01:14 PM (vbuLV)

429 Speaking of the best economy ever and the renewal of the American Dream, I just saw this. Wealthy Asheville, NC:

"Buncombe County Schools students will get free breakfast and lunch at start of school year"

https://tinyurl.com/5529hrjx

And this was down in the article:

"In the 2021-2022 school year 64.7% of school districts in the state of North Carolina were eligible for CEP"

Sixty five percent of NC is enjoying the American Dream. Which led me to search for this, which includes a map of The American Dream and Awesome Economy:

https://tinyurl.com/3vywzbfy

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The EPA has determined US has cooled since 1948 at August 14, 2023 01:14 PM (NdB+W)

430 Among other things, Milei has said that he wants to adopt the US Dollar in place of the Argentine Peso, ban abortion, liberalize the sale of arms and open up a market for the sale of human organs.

That last little part.....yeesh.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 14, 2023 12:51 PM (TZ75n)

Yeah. That's off-putting, and sort of contradictory to banning abortion. Still, he sounds like the best choice of the lot.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 14, 2023 01:14 PM (vXM/c)

431 Hawaii government officials = Mazie Hirono as but one example.

Posted by: Cheri at August 14, 2023 01:14 PM (oiNtH)

432 But it identifies as a fighter.
Posted by: Lydia Litvyak at August 14, 2023 01:13 PM (lf83v)


Well...hell.
I stand corrected in the face of rooskie wokism.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 14, 2023 01:14 PM (hv9bm)

433 Haven't they since admitted that second hand smoke is not really dangerous? They knew people would never go for all the restrictions unless they could scare them. Sounds familiar...

Posted by: steevy at August 14, 2023 01:14 PM (FQmDC)

434 But the Hawaii Emergency Management Agency said it had no record of any warning sirens with Maui's Emergency Alert System being triggered on Tuesday, department spokesperson Adam Weintraub said...


I'd bet $1,000 this is an island time bureaucratic SNAFU. Someone turned off their phone, someone else didn't know the procedure, a third someone didn't know it was their job, a fourth someone knew how to do it, but didn't feel like doing it right away, etc.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 14, 2023 01:14 PM (0N1h0)

435 They don't do that in the hood anymore. That kind of reaction is limited to obese, wheelchair-bound geriatrics from Utah.

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In Denver they will. They're only criteria is "US citizen with enough money to pay a fine" for the small infractions. For the felonies it's just "US citizen."

Black or white, poor or rich, you're getting boned as hard as possible. Only the Aztecs and vagrants get the special treatment.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 14, 2023 01:14 PM (0FoWg)

436 We've been in the Austin area for going on 7 years. When we first got here, downtown on the weekends was maybe a little young and wild for my taste, but it still had that college-town feel and kids were just doing kid shit.

Now, downtown on a weekend is a 100% no-go zone. There's nothing there for me, and it's lost anything that could be considered charm in favor of cultural rot, fistfights, and gunshots.

Posted by: ballistic at August 14, 2023 01:14 PM (oXNqT)

437 "I hate the smell of marijuana so much. I'd rather smell alley piss than some asscrack smelling skunk weed smoke.
Posted by: bonhomm"


I've been smelling it everywhere past few years, even in the locker room at the YMCA. I don't think people are smoking it there but the current skunk weed clings to your clothes and hair and follows you around. Do they even know?

Posted by: Ripley at August 14, 2023 01:15 PM (KrJTL)

438 406 Never been a big fan of marijuana. I remember somebody passing a joint in a bunker while Charlie was having fun, and took a hit. I don't like the smell. Having said that, people gripe about cigarette smoke, and should. I'm a smoker, and I realize it. Now, some of that vaping stuff is enough to make you puke. Fat lady at the casino was hitting her vape and I was down wind and it was enough to make you vomit.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at August 14, 2023 01:15 PM (0EOe9)

439 ... My daughter lives in Manhattan….pays 9k month rent. Three times my mortgage payment here in The Sip for 10x less square footage.

Her level of stupid and that of her boyfriend is incomprehensible. He ought to freaking know better. He’s 35; she’s 25. They could go anywhere else and do better, but living in a high rise in Manhattan was top of the bucket list, even if it ruins them. And it will. They cannot afford it and have no savings for emergencies. One hiccup and they are done. ...
Posted by: Miss Issippi at August 14, 2023 01:02 PM (9CTr
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$108k per year in rent? From what you've said, they're stretching hard to afford that. Assuming it's around 75% of their net, that implies a take-home pay of around $144k, which implies a a gross income of at least $200k between the two of them. That's a lot of money, but it's staggering to earn that much and be hand-to-mouth.

Even taking a 50% pay cut would probably leave in a better position elsewhere. But not the NYC high-rise life, I guess.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 14, 2023 01:15 PM (WkNQM)

440 Gen Milley identifies as a Zeppelin

Posted by: steevy at August 14, 2023 01:15 PM (FQmDC)

441 Chicago Lawn until '66, high school in Englewood '63-67, Rogers Park '76-'82, worked in the Loop '76-'85. Liked the areas, but you couldn't pay me enough to visit them now. Almost all the places I enjoyed are long gone, and some of those streets would be a bit risky for me to walk through these days.

Damn shame.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at August 14, 2023 01:15 PM (a/4+U)

442 Driving home yesterday I passed a sign for the Captain Joshua Slocum Memorial. I bet, if given the choice, he would rather have placed that in Tahiti than Massachusetts. He repeatedly said he loved their women's minimalist approach to clothing.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 14, 2023 01:15 PM (CUJgk)

443 those Brooklyn boys luv their pizza

JJ never looked better

Posted by: George Sanders at August 14, 2023 01:16 PM (us2H3)

444 A request for comment from the Maui County Emergency Management Agency on why the outdoor sirens were not triggered was not immediately returned Friday."

A fire study several years ago noted that Lahaina was at risk for a catastrophic fire, and recommended creating firebreaks around the town, as well as taking other fire mitigation measures.

Nothing was done, of course, so let's blame "global warming".

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 14, 2023 01:16 PM (2tUFv)

445 NOOD KT

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 14, 2023 01:17 PM (WkNQM)

446 I got the hell out of New York.

Posted by: George Washington at August 14, 2023 01:17 PM (kKXjJ)

447 I'd bet $1,000 this is an island time bureaucratic SNAFU. Someone turned off their phone, someone else didn't know the procedure, a third someone didn't know it was their job, a fourth someone knew how to do it, but didn't feel like doing it right away, etc.
Posted by: bonhomme at August 14, 2023 01:14 PM (0N1h0)


And a thousand quatloos there is an Asian/Hawaiian/White "fu*k you, I ain't doing it" in there somewhere.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 14, 2023 01:17 PM (hv9bm)

448 440 Gen Milley identifies as a Zeppelin
Posted by: steevy at August 14, 2023 01:15 PM (FQmDC)

Graft Zeppelin

Posted by: REDACTED at August 14, 2023 01:18 PM (us2H3)

449 About the only thing I liked about NYC during my visits was the people.

Desolate concrete wasteland without trees. The water looked fit to piss in, and that was about it.

Even in a sunny day, it had the sickly haze to the air, like a thousand cigarettes smokers exhaled all at once.

But generally, the people seemed nice. It made me wonder why they have such horrid voting habits. Probably something to do with that oversized "I'm a NewYawka" attitude.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 14, 2023 01:18 PM (AyRcN)

450 Argentina Devalues Peso, Hikes Rates After Libertarian Outsider's Shock Win In Presidential Primary
Posted by: SMOD

we'll show those uppity voters!
Posted by: BruceWayne at August 14, 2023 12:49 PM (CIS44)


Inflation is eating the average Argentine, and most keep dollars instead of pesos. They have to use pesos to pay government debt and to have valid claims in contract disputes - if the contract is in dollars or chickens they can't get a judge to hear it (it is more complicated but . . .)
However if the Argentine central bank raises rates to reduce inflation then the state may go into default (yet again) on their debt. The Economy minister of the current ruling political group is the "continuation" candidate and it sounds like he realized that the inflation issue is an election issue, and the national default is less pressing than the voters' wallets.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 14, 2023 01:19 PM (xhaym)

451 I'd bet $1,000 this is an island time bureaucratic SNAFU. Someone turned off their phone, someone else didn't know the procedure, a third someone didn't know it was their job, a fourth someone knew how to do it, but didn't feel like doing it right away, etc.
Posted by: bonhomme

Remember in 2018 on Oahu, everyone got this emergency alert "Missile threat inbound to Hawaii. Seek immediate shelter." Just an exercise....oops. For 38 minutes, people panicked and thought that they were going to die.

Posted by: Cheri at August 14, 2023 01:20 PM (oiNtH)

452 Well said. I know, most of us know for its not just the big cities.

What really hits me a great deal is formerly mainstream churches ...closing left & right or so very different. And more & more, I feel like I have to chose be with someone, a 'friend', some groups or against them. All or nothing. I don't remember such intolerance in the distant past.

All of that plus where is the money? For c19, BLM, healthcare, the state surpluses... Where has it gone?
.

Posted by: L- Practice makes perfect. They know their enemies. at August 14, 2023 01:22 PM (GshMh)

453 That last little part.....yeesh.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 14, 2023 12:51 PM (TZ75n)


I don't like it either, but the current system makes it impossibly expensive, restrictive and takes advantage of "grey market" organs from China and Ukraine.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 14, 2023 01:23 PM (xhaym)

454
It makes more sense if you remember that native Hawaiians are racist a**holes who live for a chance to screw over whitey (or anyone else).


Lazy motherfuckers, too. About 15 years ago I was in Kauai for work (I know, boo-hoo for Cur). Needed some labor to help pull a bunch of telecom equipment out of an ATT Wireless switching center, so I went to several temp agencies on the island. None of them wanted to lift a finger to provide labor, even when I offered to pay in advance. I've NEVER had problems in any other state hiring out temp labor for a few days.

I ended up having to fly a couple of our regular guys in from CA to do the labor. They got to spend an extra two days on the island as a bonus (complete with a helo tour of Waimea Canyon), so they were happy.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 14, 2023 01:28 PM (n+4am)

455 Note, this wasn't even skilled labor. The gear was all disconnected by engineers, I was just handling the logistics of getting it loaded onto a boat for redeployment back to the lower 48.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 14, 2023 01:31 PM (n+4am)

456 I also got up and left New York (Nassau County, LI). Spent 20 years of my life commuting into and working in NYC in Brooklyn, Midtown, Financial district and even Jersey City for a bit.

The Giuliani and Bloomberg years were great, cops all over the place on the streets and in the subway. You never really felt like you were unsafe in the City at the time and it was just a great place to live, work and play.

Things started to change after Spitzer was elected then resigned in shame as governor - since then we've had trash running the state into the ground but the current combo of Adams and Hochul is doubletapping NY to the point where it wont be able to recover.

The state caters to illegals, the degenerates, the druggies and the liberals... NY state as a whole stopped feeling like home a long time ago and my wife and I agreed to get out the first chance we got and head south to North Carolina.

NY became too hostile, too corrupt, too expensive and we thought why waste our time giving NY the best part of our lives when we just get spit on in return.

Made it down to the Triangle area 2 years ago and dont regret the move one bit.

Posted by: The Godfather at August 14, 2023 01:40 PM (LNquu)

457 454 455 Heh. Last job I had before the VA put me out to pasture was a strange deal. I worked for a temp agency, covered on the workmen's comp, and got an envelope with cash at the end of the week from the general contractor. We were off for a couple days, weather. Got a call from the agency asking if I wanted to make a few bucks. Same deal, phone company, simple labor pushing around a dolly. Guy and I did the work, he signed my papers giving me 8 hours for 3. Still got my envelope from the superintendent at the main site.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at August 14, 2023 01:42 PM (0EOe9)

458 >>> I do understand that things change. It's inevitable. On the other side of the spectrum, preservation can even go too far and stifle necessary growth. But, that's not really the case with this town. Horrendous politics, insane schemes to inhibit vehicular traffic, corruption and of course leftist liberal social policies that have once more brought the city to the brink of ruin have made leaving this place a no-brainer.

One of my fave fantasy novels has two forces at work trying to battle each other, preservation and ruin. One wants to conserve and protect, the other tear down and destroy. It feels like that's happening in NYC, and ruin is taking over and violating the needed balance.

Love you JJ and your writings, thanks for the essay. So sorry about what is happening to your once mighty and venerable city.

Posted by: LizLem at August 14, 2023 02:00 PM (IMJXz)

459 Rats will eat NY Style Pizza????


I did not know.

Posted by: Muad'dib at August 14, 2023 02:12 PM (sjdRT)

460 I'm at the airport leaving my hometown of Denver. What once was a cow town with ranches and great people, has turned into Los Angeles, filled with tent- junkies. Thank God, I live in Northern Michigan, the land of guns and Bibles. I feel your pain.

Posted by: Tim at August 14, 2023 02:57 PM (pZpOS)

461 As my small-breasted first love used to say: "Anything more than a mouthful is a waste."

Well, you could claim that anything more than a mouthful and two handfuls is a waste. An old roommate of mine would respnd with "But I love to waste my time..."

Posted by: Richard Cranium at August 14, 2023 02:58 PM (JS5mH)

462 Same with me about Chicago, j.j.

I love Chicago and wanted to go back, but it's not my Chicago anymore.

Posted by: PJ at August 14, 2023 03:43 PM (G1dq6)

463 You can't go home again because it changes while you are gone.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at August 14, 2023 06:02 PM (jgJfd)

464 "c19, BLM, healthcare, the state surpluses... Where has it $$$ gone?"

Didn't you get the memo?

BLM's founders, Patrisse Cullors, Alicia Garza, and Opal Tometi all needed themselves some new high dollar digs, and want to thank everyone for their generous contributions to "The Cause."

"Cause" they could, they did.

Posted by: Ju at August 14, 2023 06:34 PM (aTmM/)

465 If you’re into the amenities of a big city, I understand that New York is the crème de la crème. Still, I’ve only ever met two kinds of people from NYC: those that can’t wait to get back, and those that can’t be taken back.

Still, you’re in the People’s Republic of Wisconsin, so you know what to expect.

Posted by: Advo at August 14, 2023 06:46 PM (VHN21)

466
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Best Death Scene
-ending,Buffy

Rutger Hauer,
Paul Reubens
(tie all Loose Ends together)

I have ANOTHER browser
to Hawk, VIA

Posted by: zigzag at August 14, 2023 09:35 PM (za0LU)

467 Left new york for the championship fight in Vietnam in 1965. When I returned NYC had changed and not for the better. By the 70s it was the stuff that made Charles Bronson livid. I returned at the turn of the century and found my neighborhood in Queens devoid of the Irish, Poles, and Jews that used to live there replaced by Indians, Chinese and others, mostly South Americans. All the houses sported grills over the windows. The neighborhood shopping district was like a 3rd world district. I spend years using the subways. It was noisey, dirty but safe. On my last visit in 2006, I was glad I was accompanied by my SIG, regardless of what city laws said. The spirit of Bernie Getz is alive and well.

I'd never go back. We'd be lucky if the Indians would buy it back for $20. Its a third world insane asylum.

Posted by: Jane at August 14, 2023 09:47 PM (EcD5Y)

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