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Tucker Re-Interviews Former Chief of the Capitol Police Steven Sund -- the Interview That Fox Fired Tucker Over
Sund was the chief of the Capitol Police on January 6th. He is obviously an important first-hand witness to what happened that day, particularly regarding behind-the-scenes negligence and... connivance?
But Fox News decided that the public doesn't have the right to hear his insights and observations. Fox News is "real news" like CNN is real news.Leah Barkouikis at Townhall gathered up the key clips from the 55 minute interview. Here is some of the important first-hand accounting of that day that Fox "News" decided the public must not know:
Collin RuggThat clip here. More from that part of the interview:
@CollinRugg BREAKING: Former Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund suggests to Tucker Carlson that General Milley and Acting Secretary of Defense Chris Miller were involved in a coverup on January 6th. Well well well... Sund reveals that military leaders were so worried about January 6th that they were considering locking down the city but then mysteriously kept quiet to Sund. "On Sunday and Monday, they had been discussing locking down the city... because of the concern for violence. You know who issues the permits on Capitol Hill for demonstrations?" "I do," Sund said. "You know, who wasn't told? Me. Instead, on January 4th, what does Miller do? He puts out a memo restricting the National Guard from carrying the various weapons, any weapons, any civil disobedience equipment that would be utilized for the very demonstrations or violence that he sees coming. It just doesn't make any sense." It's almost as if they wanted J6 to happen...
The Vigilant FoxHe also said that the brass was so slow in permitting the National Guard to act that cops showed up from New Jersey, making the long drive down to DC, to begin assisting the DC police before National Guardsmen were allowed to retrieve their anti-riot gear from the armory. That clip here. Nancy Pelosi was a key actor in deliberately stopping the National Guard from restoring order:
@VigilantFox Disturbing Chain of Events Makes Damning Case That January 6 Was Allowed to Happen Steven Sund, the former Chief of the Capitol Police, was left in the dark in the crucial days leading up to January 6. This communication breakdown, whether intentional or unintentional, hamstrung the response to January 6: * Before January 6, regular conference calls were hosted by Metropolitan Police. No intelligence was shared about potential threats to the Capitol or harm to Congress members or police officers. * On January 5, around 1:00 p.m., A conference call coordinated by Steven Sund, the Chief of Capitol Police, included leaders from the Metropolitan Police Department, Steven D'Antuono (Director of the FBI's Washington Field Office), General Omar Jones (Military District of Washington), and General William Walker (Head of the National Guard). No one on the call expressed concerns about the intelligence or potential threats. The head of the Metropolitan Police Department also did not receive specific threat notifications. * However, a Senate report released in July revealed that Steve D'Antuono received multiple emails on Sunday (January 3), Monday (January 4), and possibly Tuesday (January 5) about potential violence at the Capitol. This was not communicated to the Chief of Capitol Police during their video call. * The U.S. military, including Acting Secretary of Defense Miller and General Milley, discussed the possibility of locking down Washington, D.C., due to concerns about violence. Despite concerns, Miller issued a memo on January 4 restricting the National Guard from carrying weapons or civil disobedience equipment for January 5 and 6. This affected the National Guard in Virginia and Maryland. * On January 6, as violence erupted, the Chief of Capitol Police sought assistance, but the National Guard's response was initially restricted due to the January 4 memo. Governor Hogan of Maryland also expressed frustration at being denied permission to respond by the Pentagon.
The Vigilant Fox 🦊That clip here. I have been very skeptical of claims that Pelosi and Milley and Miller deliberately permitted -- or encouraged -- the riots of January 6th just to make the MAGA brand toxic and finally be rid of a political movement they despised. I was convinced their was negligence and a cover-up of that negligence, but I did not believe that any of this was actually intentional. I have now been convinced that intentionality is now a very viable explanation for what happened. I'm not convinced that Pelosi, Milley, and Miller schemed to make this happen just to destroy MAGA. I'm still skeptical that people scheme so ruthlessly and diabolically, and further doubt they even have the ability to execute such plans. Especially the sorts of malignant incompetents such as these. Heckuva job in Afghanistan, Milley. But I no longer reject this explanation. Enough evidence is present to make this a very valid theory which must be investigated:
@VigilantFox Steven Sund Exposes Nancy Pelosi's Role in the Delayed National Guard Response on January 6 @TuckerCarlson: "So this is an event that Pelosi herself has likened to Pearl Harbor and 9/11 -- the worst thing that's ever happened on American soil. And she's in charge of allowing the National Guard to come in and respond, but she doesn't for 71 minutes? What is that?"
The Vigilant FoxIt is very strange that the feds are so protective of the Chief Insurrectionist Ray Epps.
@VigilantFox JUST IN - @TuckerCarlson Questions if Federal Agencies Allowed January 6 to Happen for Political Gain According to Former Chief of the Capitol Police, Steven Sund, Federal agencies had intelligence suggesting the potential for violence leading up to January 6, including threats against officers, potential use of chemicals, and plans to storm buildings. Despite this, none of these details were included in the intelligence assessments. Instead, documents from Sund's former intelligence unit on January 4th, 5th, and 6th indicated a low probability of civil disobedience. @TuckerCarlson remarked, "So, if you were, and I'm not, but if you were conspiracy-minded, you might think that certain agencies concluded there was likely be chaos at the Capitol, and that served their political purposes. And so, they let it happen, and they prevented you from stopping it."
🚨Former Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund reacts to shocking tapes of Ray Epps during J6th, protection that followed from political class and law enforcement pic.twitter.com/UVz9Rn7OEq
— Benny Johnson (@bennyjohnson) August 11, 2023
Ep. 15 Former Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund reveals what really happened on January 6th. Our Fox News interview with him never aired, so we invited him back. pic.twitter.com/opDlu4QGlp
— Tucker Carlson (@TuckerCarlson) August 10, 2023
Conveniently enough, Pelosi's January 6 committee broke the law and "Failed to preserve" -- destroyed -- all of its records so that no one can check up on what they actually heard from witnesses.
FIRST ON FOX: The House select committee that investigated the Capitol riot on January 6, 2021 failed to adequately preserve documents, data and video depositions -- including communications it had with the Biden White House that are still missing -- according to the Republican lawmaker overseeing the GOP investigation into the committee's work. The now-disbanded "J6" committee, which was run by Democrats and included only two GOP members, has also failed to provide any evidence that it looked into Capitol Hill security failures on the day of the riot, Rep. Barry Loudermilk, R-Ga., chairman of the Subcommittee on Oversight for the Committee on House Administration, told Fox News Digital.They just happened to "fail to preserve" information that might confirm Sund's allegations. Whoops! Whoopsie!
That's from Fox "News." Gee thanks for transcribing an interview. You're really going all-out to provide your viewers with the best, most penetrating investigative reporting. What other critical, newsworthy stories has Fox "News's" mostly-female, all-liberal executive corps decided that its viewers should not be allowed to see? Not only must a possible conspiracy behind the true architects of J6 -- Pelosi, Milley, Miller -- be investigated, to determine if their authorship of the chaos was merely negligent or criminally intended -- but Fox "News" must be made to answer why they decided to censor the news as hard as CNN censored the Hunter Biden laptop story.
Loudermilk said his staff has had difficulty gathering all the information it needs to investigate Rep. Bennie Thompson's handling of the J6 investigation. "Part of our task as this oversight subcommittee is to actually address the security failures, look into how did it happen... how were these folks able to get into the Capitol," Loudermilk said. He said the documents they obtained came over in boxes and was completely unorganized. "Nothing was indexed. There was no table of contents index. Usually when you conduct this level of investigation, you use a database system and everything is digitized, indexed. We got nothing like that. We just got raw data," he said. "So it took us a long time going through it and one thing I started realizing is we don't have anything much at all from the Blue Team." The "Blue Team," as described by Loudermilk, represents the group within the J6 committee that was directed to investigate security failures at the Capitol. Loudermilk explained that sources have told him the Blue Team was essentially "shut down" by the committee in order to focus on placing the blame on former President Trump. "We've got lots of depositions, we've got lots of subpoenas, we've got video and other documents provided through subpoenas by individuals. But we're not seeing anything from the Blue Team as far as reports on the investigation they did looking into the actual breach itself," he said.< "What we also realized we didn't have was the videos of all the depositions," Loudermilk added.
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FIRST!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 11, 2023 12:06 PM (Zz0t1)
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TGIF Ace
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 11, 2023 12:06 PM (t/2Uw)
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DRAT! It's those damn Italicans again.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 11, 2023 12:06 PM (Zz0t1)
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This doesn't change the fact that some Federalist Society members say that Trump is unquestionably guilty of insurrection! Anything else is malinformation!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 11, 2023 12:07 PM (LvTSG)
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Top o' tha noon to ya, boss!!!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 11, 2023 12:07 PM (Zz0t1)
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I like my nic in italics.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 11, 2023 12:07 PM (t/2Uw)
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We knew it was an op
Posted by: Zeera the ungoverened at August 11, 2023 12:09 PM (6I2Cp)
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I'm not really sure what piling up the evidence will do.
The low-information people won't know it and those who are paying attention are already convinced.
The low-information people won't know it and those who are paying attention are already convinced.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 11, 2023 12:09 PM (JMAcK)
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Fox News is "real news" like CNN is real news.
Mr. O'Spades, please don't equate Fox News with real journalism.
Mr. O'Spades, please don't equate Fox News with real journalism.
Posted by: Brian "S. M." Stelter at August 11, 2023 12:09 PM (a3Q+t)
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Everybody get from street! Italicans are here!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 11, 2023 12:09 PM (Wnv9h)
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Tuck is on a roll
Posted by: Skip at August 11, 2023 12:10 PM (FJUxs)
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Conspiracy, collusion, corruption....oh my! Must be a day that ends w/y.
Posted by: BignJames at August 11, 2023 12:11 PM (AwYPR)
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Amazing how things change when the GOPe loses control even a little bit.
Imagine if the GOPe were powerless.
The machinery still works.
It's just that the GOP is the operator.
Imagine if the GOPe were powerless.
The machinery still works.
It's just that the GOP is the operator.
Posted by: Thesokorus at August 11, 2023 12:11 PM (X1EMB)
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Preserving documents in any legal matter is inviolable protocol across all professions. That the J6 Committee did not is an abomination. Yet it will pass, as everything does.
Name one Republican with the guts to have stayed current with the sham of J6 in any respect.
Name one Republican with the guts to have stayed current with the sham of J6 in any respect.
Posted by: Ordinary American at August 11, 2023 12:12 PM (PuJDY)
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They didn’t just allow it to happen but they covertly and with foresight instigated it .
Like NBC igniting the gas tank when it wouldn’t explode on its own.
Like NBC igniting the gas tank when it wouldn’t explode on its own.
Posted by: polynikes at August 11, 2023 12:12 PM (MNhXM)
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"I have been very skeptical of claims that Pelosi and Milley and Miller deliberately permitted -- or encouraged -- the riots of January 6th just to make the MAGA brand toxic and finally be rid of a political movement they despised."
I've never understood Ace's -- and otherwise smart, conservative people's -- skepticism of this. It was blatantly obvious to me from the get.
Now, am I sure the reason for this permission and encouragement was to "make the MAGA brand toxic and finally be rid of a political movement they despised"? No. But they wanted and encouraged chaos and riots and bloodshed and death. They figured (correctly) that if that happened, they could build a narrative out of it. And they did.
Imagine if J6 turned out to be the truly deadly bloodbath they wanted it to be . . . .
I've never understood Ace's -- and otherwise smart, conservative people's -- skepticism of this. It was blatantly obvious to me from the get.
Now, am I sure the reason for this permission and encouragement was to "make the MAGA brand toxic and finally be rid of a political movement they despised"? No. But they wanted and encouraged chaos and riots and bloodshed and death. They figured (correctly) that if that happened, they could build a narrative out of it. And they did.
Imagine if J6 turned out to be the truly deadly bloodbath they wanted it to be . . . .
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 11, 2023 12:13 PM (iFTx/)
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With all this new information, why has there been no appeals from the J6 defendents? Is there no mechanism to get them released or their convictions reviewed at least? Is there no way to at least get bond posted for the ones sittiing in jail for years awaiting trial? So much for the presumption of innocence.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 11, 2023 12:13 PM (t/2Uw)
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Especially the sorts of malignant incompetents such as these. Heckuva job in Afghanistan, Milley.
= =
Who said incompetent?! We were willing to sacrifice Americans on Jan 6. Why would we care about Afghani contractors and a few billion in military equipment? Who are you kidding? **Puffs Cigar**
= =
Who said incompetent?! We were willing to sacrifice Americans on Jan 6. Why would we care about Afghani contractors and a few billion in military equipment? Who are you kidding? **Puffs Cigar**
Posted by: Call Me General at August 11, 2023 12:13 PM (AD14M)
Posted by: rickb223 at August 11, 2023 12:14 PM (nW4TA)
Posted by: Deadrody at August 11, 2023 12:14 PM (BqWhS)
Posted by: Rev Dr Happy Hands at August 11, 2023 12:14 PM (UCNv1)
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They just happened to "fail to preserve" information that might confirm Sund's allegations.
Whoops!
Whoopsie!
Some people may have done some things.
Mistakes may have been made.
Old news.
What difference, at this point, does it make?
Time to move on.
Trump needs to be indicted for questioning sacred Election Results while not being a Democrat.
Whoops!
Whoopsie!
Some people may have done some things.
Mistakes may have been made.
Old news.
What difference, at this point, does it make?
Time to move on.
Trump needs to be indicted for questioning sacred Election Results while not being a Democrat.
Posted by: DNC & the MSM at August 11, 2023 12:14 PM (a3Q+t)
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I bet we can fix this if only that meany Trump isn't on the ballot!
Because these people will be totally fair to any other person who isn't part of their cabal.
Right?
Because these people will be totally fair to any other person who isn't part of their cabal.
Right?
Posted by: Just Lily at August 11, 2023 12:14 PM (RLLZj)
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I have now been convinced that intentionality is now a very viable explanation for what happened. I'm not convinced that Pelosi, Milley, and Miller schemed to make this happen just to destroy MAGA. I'm still skeptical that people scheme so ruthlessly and diabolically, and further doubt they even have the ability to execute such plans.
I was skeptical until the hilariously bumbling FBI Michigan kidnapping plot was revealed. At that point it became very clear that all of those things you're skeptical of are at least likely and probably true. Except I doubt Pelosi or Milley or Miller were making the calls on any of it.
I was skeptical until the hilariously bumbling FBI Michigan kidnapping plot was revealed. At that point it became very clear that all of those things you're skeptical of are at least likely and probably true. Except I doubt Pelosi or Milley or Miller were making the calls on any of it.
Posted by: Ian S. at August 11, 2023 12:15 PM (2ocoG)
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I've never understood Ace's -- and otherwise smart, conservative people's -- skepticism of this. It was blatantly obvious to me from the get.
…………………
You know who else didn’t see this obvious trap that others could see coming from a million miles away?
…………………
You know who else didn’t see this obvious trap that others could see coming from a million miles away?
Posted by: polynikes at August 11, 2023 12:15 PM (MNhXM)
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I remember joking that the J6 committee would destroy evidence a la Hillary, but I confess that I didn't think even they would be so brazen as to actually do it.
I really need to recalibrate my cynicism meter.
I really need to recalibrate my cynicism meter.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 11, 2023 12:15 PM (eOEVl)
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Name one Republican with the guts to have stayed current with the sham of J6 in any respect.
Posted by: Ordinary American at August 11, 2023 12:12 PM
Not the hill to die on.
Posted by: Ordinary American at August 11, 2023 12:12 PM
Not the hill to die on.
Posted by: GOPe at August 11, 2023 12:16 PM (a3Q+t)
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”Loudmilk” is an interesting surname.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 11, 2023 12:17 PM (xTRSc)
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Everybody get from street! Italicans are here!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 11, 2023 12:09 PM (Wnv9h)
You can fix the Italicans here, but the front page...the front page remains.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 11, 2023 12:09 PM (Wnv9h)
You can fix the Italicans here, but the front page...the front page remains.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 11, 2023 12:17 PM (Zz0t1)
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19 We all know J6 is an abomination on every level.
Biggest question is what do we do about it?
Posted by: rickb223 at August 11, 2023 12:14 PM (nW4TA)
What do we do about any of these absolute horrors ?
Biggest question is what do we do about it?
Posted by: rickb223 at August 11, 2023 12:14 PM (nW4TA)
What do we do about any of these absolute horrors ?
Posted by: It's me donna at August 11, 2023 12:17 PM (bs+z0)
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Has Biden been impeached yet?
Posted by: runner at August 11, 2023 12:17 PM (haV5y)
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And, someone fixes the tag and the front page is back to normal.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 11, 2023 12:17 PM (Zz0t1)
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You know who else didn’t see this obvious trap that others could see coming from a million miles away?
*considers biting on red meat, then thinks better of it, so as to stay on topic*
*considers biting on red meat, then thinks better of it, so as to stay on topic*
Posted by: Archimedes at August 11, 2023 12:18 PM (eOEVl)
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Here's why we need Trump to win:
There will be a massive riot at the capitol again. It'll be young radicals, though, not 65 year old grandmas.
Should be a good battle and fun to watch as the left spirals into conspiracy and further violence.
There will be a massive riot at the capitol again. It'll be young radicals, though, not 65 year old grandmas.
Should be a good battle and fun to watch as the left spirals into conspiracy and further violence.
Posted by: MJ at August 11, 2023 12:18 PM (zwDuR)
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>>>Ah, so because Trump appointed Milley, it's really HIS fault. Got it
of course not, Trump is not responsible for any of his mistakes, everything's #Rigged
of course not, Trump is not responsible for any of his mistakes, everything's #Rigged
Posted by: ace at August 11, 2023 12:18 PM (KRtlO)
Posted by: JEM at August 11, 2023 12:18 PM (8erNz)
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*enters room*
It is better to cum a shitload than to shit a cumload.
*runs out of room*
.....now you know!!!!
It is better to cum a shitload than to shit a cumload.
*runs out of room*
.....now you know!!!!
Posted by: PSA Skeletor at August 11, 2023 12:19 PM (Zz0t1)
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What do we do about any of these absolute horrors ?
Posted by: It's me donna at August 11, 2023 12:17 PM (bs+z0)
Break the GOP. This is all happening because the GOP wants it to happen.
To me, any effort not directed at the GOP is a waste.
Posted by: It's me donna at August 11, 2023 12:17 PM (bs+z0)
Break the GOP. This is all happening because the GOP wants it to happen.
To me, any effort not directed at the GOP is a waste.
Posted by: Thesokorus at August 11, 2023 12:19 PM (X1EMB)
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Ah, so because Trump appointed Milley, it's really HIS fault. Got it
HO-LEE FOOK
Posted by: Deadrody at August 11, 2023 12:14 PM (BqWhS)
Nothing bad is ever Trump’s fault according to you guys. Though everything good that happened was because of Trump and only he could have done it.
HO-LEE FOOK
Posted by: Deadrody at August 11, 2023 12:14 PM (BqWhS)
Nothing bad is ever Trump’s fault according to you guys. Though everything good that happened was because of Trump and only he could have done it.
Posted by: polynikes at August 11, 2023 12:19 PM (MNhXM)
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More of those perfect Trump picks we've learned to love.
It's unfair to hold Trump accountable for the selections he made.
It's unfair to hold Trump accountable for the selections he made.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 11, 2023 12:19 PM (qWW+5)
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22 They just happened to "fail to preserve" information that might confirm Sund's allegations.
Whoops!
Whoopsie!
So.. Subpoena everyone of those "witnesses"
Whoops!
Whoopsie!
So.. Subpoena everyone of those "witnesses"
Posted by: It's me donna at August 11, 2023 12:19 PM (bs+z0)
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Has Biden been impeached yet?
Posted by: runner at August 11, 2023 12:17 PM (haV5y)
This is not something we deem as a necessary action at this time.
Posted by: runner at August 11, 2023 12:17 PM (haV5y)
This is not something we deem as a necessary action at this time.
Posted by: Mitch McConnell at August 11, 2023 12:19 PM (Zz0t1)
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of course not, Trump is not responsible for any of his mistakes, everything's #Rigged
Posted by: ace at August 11, 2023 12:18 PM (KRtlO)
Unironically think this is true.
Idk how anyone with functioning eyes and ears could think otherwise.
Posted by: ace at August 11, 2023 12:18 PM (KRtlO)
Unironically think this is true.
Idk how anyone with functioning eyes and ears could think otherwise.
Posted by: Thesokorus at August 11, 2023 12:20 PM (X1EMB)
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You know who else didn’t see this obvious trap that others could see coming from a million miles away?
*considers biting on red meat, then thinks better of it, so as to stay on topic*
*sees that reticence is not on the menu for this thread, regrets earlier decision*
*considers biting on red meat, then thinks better of it, so as to stay on topic*
*sees that reticence is not on the menu for this thread, regrets earlier decision*
Posted by: Archimedes at August 11, 2023 12:20 PM (eOEVl)
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>>>Nothing bad is ever Trump’s fault according to you guys. Though everything good that happened was because of Trump and only he could have done it.
I have noticed that this paradigm holds great sway among some.
I have noticed that this paradigm holds great sway among some.
Posted by: ace at August 11, 2023 12:20 PM (KRtlO)
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AG Merrick Garland making a statement about Hunter at the podium.
Posted by: redridinghood at August 11, 2023 12:20 PM (NpAcC)
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Ah, so because Trump appointed Milley, it's really HIS fault. Got it
HO-LEE FOOK
Posted by: Deadrody at August 11, 2023 12:14 PM (BqWhS)
Trump is evil and must be stopped at all costs.
HO-LEE FOOK
Posted by: Deadrody at August 11, 2023 12:14 PM (BqWhS)
Trump is evil and must be stopped at all costs.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 11, 2023 12:20 PM (Zz0t1)
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Nothing bad is ever Trump’s fault according to you guys. Though everything good that happened was because of Trump and only he could have done it.
Posted by: polynikes at August 11, 2023 12:19 PM (MNhXM)
Another unironic YES from me.
Posted by: polynikes at August 11, 2023 12:19 PM (MNhXM)
Another unironic YES from me.
Posted by: Thesokorus at August 11, 2023 12:21 PM (X1EMB)
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AG Merrick Garland making a statement about Hunter at the podium.
Posted by: redridinghood at August 11, 2023 12:20 PM (NpAcC)
Announcing they're giving him an honorary lead FBI role?
Posted by: redridinghood at August 11, 2023 12:20 PM (NpAcC)
Announcing they're giving him an honorary lead FBI role?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 11, 2023 12:21 PM (Zz0t1)
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well, i suppose at this point, it's NICE to have confirmation of what we all kind of suspected could be true. but it seems like it's even worse than we thought.
and yeah, i was of the mind that the govt LET j6 happen, and parts of the FIB were involved with Ray Epps.
Now, I'm pretty sure that someone behind the scenes was orchestrating the whole thing. yes, i believe they all acted, either in concert unknowingly, or independently as directed, to cause j6 to happen.
and yeah, i was of the mind that the govt LET j6 happen, and parts of the FIB were involved with Ray Epps.
Now, I'm pretty sure that someone behind the scenes was orchestrating the whole thing. yes, i believe they all acted, either in concert unknowingly, or independently as directed, to cause j6 to happen.
Posted by: The Romans at August 11, 2023 12:21 PM (KZaqS)
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So Garland is gonna hold a press conference ? I bet it's to make excuses for shooting dead a nutty, obese, disabled man because... Ultra MAGA !
Posted by: It's me donna at August 11, 2023 12:21 PM (bs+z0)
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>>>Unironically think this is true.
people rigged his brain to pick Wray, Milley, etc...?
Let me ask you straight-up: Is literally anything Trump does ever Trump's fault or nah?
people rigged his brain to pick Wray, Milley, etc...?
Let me ask you straight-up: Is literally anything Trump does ever Trump's fault or nah?
Posted by: ace at August 11, 2023 12:21 PM (KRtlO)
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Merrick Garland is making a statement ...
https://www.justice.gov/live
https://www.justice.gov/live
Posted by: Kathy at August 11, 2023 12:21 PM (JklXp)
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Most critical componant of any coup is total control of the media.
And... Garland has a very special announcement coming up....
And... Garland has a very special announcement coming up....
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at August 11, 2023 12:21 PM (ga8qR)
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Trump is evil and must be stopped at all costs.
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OMG! NOOOOOOOoooooooooo!
Tom Elliott
@tomselliott
Morning Joe: “‘Morning Joe’ might not exist [if Trump wins], as … he has said, ‘If I’m elected, I want the FCC reporting directly to me,’ & he will cancel this show. You need to think that — that extreme. It’s over! Freedom is over if Donald Trump gets elected”
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OMG! NOOOOOOOoooooooooo!
Tom Elliott
@tomselliott
Morning Joe: “‘Morning Joe’ might not exist [if Trump wins], as … he has said, ‘If I’m elected, I want the FCC reporting directly to me,’ & he will cancel this show. You need to think that — that extreme. It’s over! Freedom is over if Donald Trump gets elected”
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 11, 2023 12:22 PM (FVME7)
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"Except I doubt Pelosi or Milley or Miller were making the calls on any of it."
This!!!
Pelosi was following orders. It was all planned and co ordinated.
Two words, "Ray Epps", how in the hell do you get a bad actor like him at the tip of the spear and just let him walk?
There is another layer of this mystery and no one is talking about.
This!!!
Pelosi was following orders. It was all planned and co ordinated.
Two words, "Ray Epps", how in the hell do you get a bad actor like him at the tip of the spear and just let him walk?
There is another layer of this mystery and no one is talking about.
Posted by: pawn at August 11, 2023 12:22 PM (wsHtO)
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"Failed to preserve" = Confirmed
Posted by: Now, that's unquestionably fair! at August 11, 2023 12:22 PM (ZusGA)
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Apparently, some suspicious packages were received at the DNC and RNC around that time, but the investigation into those is stalled?
This, together with the fact that rioters could not have gone inside the Capitol unless allowed, makes me think the riot was staged.
Concerning Trump, obviously he was betrayed by his own appointees, such as Pence. To his merit, DeSantis seems to be surrounded by a loyal team and to inspire loyalty. However, don't you think that once the Democrats are done with Trump and make an example out of him they'll turn on DeSantis or whoever is next? On the national stage the stakes are higher. Bribery, blackmail, flattery, once the Washington bureaucracy sets its sights on DeSantis' aides, he may be left with few people to trust.
Isn't it better to stand up for Trump now, rather than promising that next time will be better?
This, together with the fact that rioters could not have gone inside the Capitol unless allowed, makes me think the riot was staged.
Concerning Trump, obviously he was betrayed by his own appointees, such as Pence. To his merit, DeSantis seems to be surrounded by a loyal team and to inspire loyalty. However, don't you think that once the Democrats are done with Trump and make an example out of him they'll turn on DeSantis or whoever is next? On the national stage the stakes are higher. Bribery, blackmail, flattery, once the Washington bureaucracy sets its sights on DeSantis' aides, he may be left with few people to trust.
Isn't it better to stand up for Trump now, rather than promising that next time will be better?
Posted by: PG at August 11, 2023 12:22 PM (84jHt)
59
Sigh. Here we go again...
Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 11, 2023 12:22 PM (Xrfse)
60
Enough evidence is present to make this a very valid theory which must be investigated... Ace
Are we to understand...you want investigations? Hearings!?! That's our specialty!
Are we to understand...you want investigations? Hearings!?! That's our specialty!
Posted by: Congressional Republicans at August 11, 2023 12:22 PM (J9XzG)
61
Wow. The Sooper Special Prosecutor indices DJT's maintenance guy for fiddling with video tapes and J6 committee video depositions just ... vanish.
Posted by: mrp at August 11, 2023 12:23 PM (eVnUT)
62
Let me ask you straight-up: Is literally anything Trump does ever Trump's fault or nah?
Posted by: ace at August 11, 2023 12:21 PM (KRtlO)
He's fat. And has a huge huge huge ass.
That's on him.
And most his exes were ugly to me.
Posted by: ace at August 11, 2023 12:21 PM (KRtlO)
He's fat. And has a huge huge huge ass.
That's on him.
And most his exes were ugly to me.
Posted by: Thesokorus at August 11, 2023 12:23 PM (X1EMB)
63
While Trump certainly bears some of the blame for poor personnel choices, let's make sure the bulk of the blame goes where it belongs: Pelosi, Milley, and their ilk.
Their ilk must pay.
Their ilk must pay.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 11, 2023 12:23 PM (eOEVl)
64
Tom Elliott
@tomselliott
Morning Joe: “‘Morning Joe’ might not exist [if Trump wins], as … he has said, ‘If I’m elected, I want the FCC reporting directly to me,’ & he will cancel this show. You need to think that — that extreme. It’s over! Freedom is over if Donald Trump gets elected”
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 11, 2023 12:22 PM (FVME7)
The world will truly end and all will be destroyed if Morning Joe goes off the air.
@tomselliott
Morning Joe: “‘Morning Joe’ might not exist [if Trump wins], as … he has said, ‘If I’m elected, I want the FCC reporting directly to me,’ & he will cancel this show. You need to think that — that extreme. It’s over! Freedom is over if Donald Trump gets elected”
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 11, 2023 12:22 PM (FVME7)
The world will truly end and all will be destroyed if Morning Joe goes off the air.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 11, 2023 12:23 PM (Zz0t1)
65
David Weiss is named Special Counsel in Hunter Biden probe.
Posted by: redridinghood at August 11, 2023 12:23 PM (NpAcC)
66
If they continue to let every federal agency destroy, lose or allow evidence to be hacked, no one will ever be held accountable. It started with Hillary and the DNC wiping out the evidence of their malfeasance or maybe it was the IRS conveniently losing all evidence of the Tea Party suppression or the recent loss of the info on the J6 bomber....
Lie to Congress and get a book deal or a CNN gig. Fail to do your job and get a cushy retirement as a lobbyist.
Seriously, when was the last time anyone got prosecuted for defrauding the American people?
Lie to Congress and get a book deal or a CNN gig. Fail to do your job and get a cushy retirement as a lobbyist.
Seriously, when was the last time anyone got prosecuted for defrauding the American people?
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 11, 2023 12:23 PM (t/2Uw)
Posted by: LIV at August 11, 2023 12:23 PM (yz2sc)
68
I remember David French informing me that it's the seriousness of the charge that's important in determining whether to support a drawn-out investigation that could lead to the removal of government officials.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 11, 2023 12:23 PM (LvTSG)
69
Break the GOP. This is all happening because the GOP wants it to happen.
To me, any effort not directed at the GOP is a waste.
Posted by: Thesokorus at August 11, 2023 12:19 PM (X1EMB)
I agree, and I wouldn't have said this two years ago. I wanted to see Trump overhaul the party in 2017 and thought he might. Instead he he tried to schmooze them to his side. That went well.
To me, any effort not directed at the GOP is a waste.
Posted by: Thesokorus at August 11, 2023 12:19 PM (X1EMB)
I agree, and I wouldn't have said this two years ago. I wanted to see Trump overhaul the party in 2017 and thought he might. Instead he he tried to schmooze them to his side. That went well.
Posted by: Ordinary American at August 11, 2023 12:24 PM (PuJDY)
70
Garland gives Hunter blanket conditional pardon under the guise of a "Speecial Insepctor".
No further questions, ever.
No further questions, ever.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at August 11, 2023 12:24 PM (ga8qR)
71
Intentionally allowed January 6th?
Where the fuck have you been?!?!?!
Look at the George Floyd Riots in Minneapolis!!!
Memorial Day night was peaceful. By Tuesday afternoon they were looting and burning a Target store ten miles away. And the Mayor Frey and Governor Walz did jack.
There were four fucking nights of riots -TUESDAY WEDNESDAY THURSDAY FRIDAY -before they finally called out enough National Guard troops to control the mobs of looters and arsonists.
By then? The Blue Shitholes across the country were in flames.
The Democrats want riots and disorder. They want people scared and giving them power.
Where the fuck have you been?!?!?!
Look at the George Floyd Riots in Minneapolis!!!
Memorial Day night was peaceful. By Tuesday afternoon they were looting and burning a Target store ten miles away. And the Mayor Frey and Governor Walz did jack.
There were four fucking nights of riots -TUESDAY WEDNESDAY THURSDAY FRIDAY -before they finally called out enough National Guard troops to control the mobs of looters and arsonists.
By then? The Blue Shitholes across the country were in flames.
The Democrats want riots and disorder. They want people scared and giving them power.
Posted by: rd at August 11, 2023 12:24 PM (hhb1F)
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Nothing bad is ever Trump’s fault according to you guys. Though everything good that happened was because of Trump and only he could have done it.
I have noticed that this paradigm holds great sway among some.
Posted by: ace at August 11, 2023 12:20 PM (KRtlO)
Trump did a lot of stupid shit and a lot of good shit.
I'm happy to name the stupid shit. It starts with trusting a lot of the wrong people. I can put that on him even though I think some of those wrong people didn't start wrong but were coerced "eight ways to Sunday".
Thing is everyone does stupid shit, I'm just used to Republicans ONLY doing stupid shit. And purposely aiding Democrats. And insulting the base. And lying to me to benefit themselves. And pandering to me. And pandering to Democrats. And not fighting obviously false narratives, leaving us to try and do it. And waiting until the wind blows to form an opinion.
I have noticed that this paradigm holds great sway among some.
Posted by: ace at August 11, 2023 12:20 PM (KRtlO)
Trump did a lot of stupid shit and a lot of good shit.
I'm happy to name the stupid shit. It starts with trusting a lot of the wrong people. I can put that on him even though I think some of those wrong people didn't start wrong but were coerced "eight ways to Sunday".
Thing is everyone does stupid shit, I'm just used to Republicans ONLY doing stupid shit. And purposely aiding Democrats. And insulting the base. And lying to me to benefit themselves. And pandering to me. And pandering to Democrats. And not fighting obviously false narratives, leaving us to try and do it. And waiting until the wind blows to form an opinion.
Posted by: ... at August 11, 2023 12:24 PM (QSXi6)
73
Pelosi was following orders. It was all planned and co ordinated.
I'll bite. By whom specifically?
I'll bite. By whom specifically?
Posted by: Archimedes at August 11, 2023 12:24 PM (eOEVl)
74
David Weiss is named Special Counsel in Hunter Biden probe.
Posted by: redridinghood at August 11, 2023 12:23 PM (NpAcC)
Hahahhahahah
Posted by: redridinghood at August 11, 2023 12:23 PM (NpAcC)
Hahahhahahah
Posted by: Thesokorus at August 11, 2023 12:25 PM (X1EMB)
75
There was a time when "Trump sometimes makes bad picks" was the one thing that Trump's supporters would (grudgingly) concede.
I guess that window has closed and now it's Ron DeSantis' fault for not warning Trump enough about Trump being so, so easy to dupe and swindle.
I guess that window has closed and now it's Ron DeSantis' fault for not warning Trump enough about Trump being so, so easy to dupe and swindle.
Posted by: ace at August 11, 2023 12:25 PM (KRtlO)
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It's unfair to hold Trump accountable for the selections he made.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 11, 2023 12:19 PM (qWW+5)
And continues to make
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 11, 2023 12:19 PM (qWW+5)
And continues to make
Posted by: Ronna Romney McDaniel thanks you at August 11, 2023 12:25 PM (qwO6y)
77
Media delenda est
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 11, 2023 12:25 PM (lkmtx)
78
David Weiss is named Special Counsel in Hunter Biden probe.
Posted by: redridinghood at August 11, 2023 12:23 PM (NpAcC)
This is all a fucking farce.
Posted by: redridinghood at August 11, 2023 12:23 PM (NpAcC)
This is all a fucking farce.
Posted by: Mark1971 at August 11, 2023 12:25 PM (xPl2J)
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The Democrats want riots and disorder. They want people scared and giving them power.
Posted by: rd at August 11, 2023 12:24 PM (hhb1F)
The only way they can declare martial law and take your guns is by creating complete and utter chaos EVERYWHERE.
The public will DEMAND they disarm everyone at that point.
The Democrats want riots and disorder. They want people scared and giving them power.
Posted by: rd at August 11, 2023 12:24 PM (hhb1F)
The only way they can declare martial law and take your guns is by creating complete and utter chaos EVERYWHERE.
The public will DEMAND they disarm everyone at that point.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 11, 2023 12:25 PM (Zz0t1)
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The federal judge overseeing the election conspiracy case against Donald Trump has agreed with his defense on a looser version of a protective order for evidence in the case Chutkan rejected prosecutors’ broader protective order proposal that sought to prevent the public airing of all evidence they hand over to Trump’s defense as they prepare for trial. She instead seemed poised to impose a more limited protective order that would bar the public release only of materials deemed “sensitive,” such as grand jury materials.
Posted by: Tyler Durden at August 11, 2023 12:25 PM (RHGPo)
81
I have been very skeptical of claims that Pelosi and Milley and Miller deliberately permitted -- or encouraged -- the riots of January 6th just to make the MAGA brand toxic and finally be rid of a political movement they despised.
The bizarre coordinated overreaction to Jan. 6 was pretty indicative. They wanted a violent murderous riot, and when they didn't get one (aside from their own thugs murdering unarmed people), they proceeded as if it had happened anyway.
The bizarre coordinated overreaction to Jan. 6 was pretty indicative. They wanted a violent murderous riot, and when they didn't get one (aside from their own thugs murdering unarmed people), they proceeded as if it had happened anyway.
Posted by: spindrift at August 11, 2023 12:25 PM (FRu7m)
82
Fox really dropped the mask, firing Tucker.
fuck 'em
fuck 'em
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at August 11, 2023 12:26 PM (xcxpd)
83
70 Garland gives Hunter blanket conditional pardon under the guise of a "Speecial Insepctor".
No further questions, ever.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at August 11, 2023 12:24 PM (ga8qR)
There goes the Hose investigation or any chance of an Impeachment... Clever
No further questions, ever.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at August 11, 2023 12:24 PM (ga8qR)
There goes the Hose investigation or any chance of an Impeachment... Clever
Posted by: It's me donna at August 11, 2023 12:26 PM (bs+z0)
84
Howdy, fellow right wingers! Ida been here sooner but Is out rustlin up some grub.
Posted by: Mike Pence at August 11, 2023 12:26 PM (u73oe)
85
Morning Joe: “‘Morning Joe’ might not exist [if Trump wins], as … he has said, ‘If I’m elected, I want the FCC reporting directly to me,’ & he will cancel this show. You need to think that — that extreme. It’s over! Freedom is over if Donald Trump gets elected
…………………
You sir are retarded . Also you and your fellow tards made similar claims in 2016 .
…………………
You sir are retarded . Also you and your fellow tards made similar claims in 2016 .
Posted by: polynikes at August 11, 2023 12:26 PM (MNhXM)
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"The House select committee that investigated the Capitol riot on January 6, 2021 failed to adequately preserve documents, data and video depositions"
Durian Republic horseshit.
Durian Republic horseshit.
Posted by: Mentholated Smooth-Drawing gp at August 11, 2023 12:26 PM (MvF+J)
87
There was a time when "Trump sometimes makes bad picks" was the one thing that Trump's supporters would (grudgingly) concede.
I guess that window has closed and now it's Ron DeSantis' fault for not warning Trump enough about Trump being so, so easy to dupe and swindle.
Which is exactly what a RINO meatball would do.
I guess that window has closed and now it's Ron DeSantis' fault for not warning Trump enough about Trump being so, so easy to dupe and swindle.
Which is exactly what a RINO meatball would do.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 11, 2023 12:26 PM (eOEVl)
88
Jan6? That was like two and a half years ago.
Posted by: BignJames at August 11, 2023 12:26 PM (AwYPR)
89
Let me ask you straight-up: Is literally anything Trump does ever Trump's fault or nah?
Posted by: ace at August 11, 2023 12:21 PM (KRtlO)
One of two things must be true:
Trump is a terrible judge of character and failed in his appointments.
Trump was easily duped by nearly every person he appointed.
The latter is actually the optimistic perspective.
Posted by: ace at August 11, 2023 12:21 PM (KRtlO)
One of two things must be true:
Trump is a terrible judge of character and failed in his appointments.
Trump was easily duped by nearly every person he appointed.
The latter is actually the optimistic perspective.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 11, 2023 12:26 PM (qWW+5)
90
David Weiss is named Special Counsel in Hunter Biden probe.
Posted by: redridinghood
It's a Weisswash!
Posted by: redridinghood
It's a Weisswash!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 11, 2023 12:26 PM (FVME7)
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>>>*Two-hand masturbates furiously to tranny midget furry bondage videos*
*Two* hands...?
Well helllllllo sailor...
*Two* hands...?
Well helllllllo sailor...
Posted by: David French Invites You to Spend a Highly Cultured Weekend Inside His Wife at August 11, 2023 12:27 PM (KRtlO)
92
Special Counsel for Hunter probe = making way for Newsom to swoop in?
Posted by: Mad Max in VA at August 11, 2023 12:27 PM (hY3+6)
93
I feel like even before Jan 6, when there was talk of a huge protest, that there were stories about Nancy refusing to bring in more police, and the National Guard not being called up, despite even Trump asking them to do so.
Then in all the Jan 6th "investigations" those two crucial aspects were completely ignored.
The only reason you wouldn't call in more security is A) you want violence or B) you don't want your people getting caught (though i guess it can be A and B too)
Saw a new video for the first time yesterday, reposted by someone like EndWokeness or someone similar, of a guy in all black and a mask tearing out windows in the Capitol, while maskless guys in flag apparel tried to stop him, until he began threatening them. But somehow they were put on the FBI's list but the gut actually breaking in wasn't. Too bad we don't have a congress to look in to this.
Then in all the Jan 6th "investigations" those two crucial aspects were completely ignored.
The only reason you wouldn't call in more security is A) you want violence or B) you don't want your people getting caught (though i guess it can be A and B too)
Saw a new video for the first time yesterday, reposted by someone like EndWokeness or someone similar, of a guy in all black and a mask tearing out windows in the Capitol, while maskless guys in flag apparel tried to stop him, until he began threatening them. But somehow they were put on the FBI's list but the gut actually breaking in wasn't. Too bad we don't have a congress to look in to this.
Posted by: Rbastid at August 11, 2023 12:27 PM (wap8a)
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Announcing they're giving him an honorary lead FBI role?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 11, 2023 12:21 PM (Zz0t1)
He's starting a new job as an FBI drug sniffing dog, and therefore has immunity to subpoena.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 11, 2023 12:21 PM (Zz0t1)
He's starting a new job as an FBI drug sniffing dog, and therefore has immunity to subpoena.
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at August 11, 2023 12:27 PM (z+89e)
95
I think the overweening need to defend Trump is in proportion to the overweening effort to destroy him. It's the law of compensation. Human political nature.
Posted by: Ordinary American at August 11, 2023 12:27 PM (PuJDY)
96
None of this is Conspiracy Fuel.
Why?
'Cause no "conspiracy" is needed when 100% of the apparatchiks are "working towards the Fuhrer".
Well, OK. There were some knowing Nods and and slyly hooded Winks given, allright?
Oh, and your local cops ARE going to Be There and Render Aid to your friendly Feds, when the Feebs or BATFE decide to pay a visit and divest you of arms, ammo, liberty and life.
Nods and Winks, across the board. It's the New Normal.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Why?
'Cause no "conspiracy" is needed when 100% of the apparatchiks are "working towards the Fuhrer".
Well, OK. There were some knowing Nods and and slyly hooded Winks given, allright?
Oh, and your local cops ARE going to Be There and Render Aid to your friendly Feds, when the Feebs or BATFE decide to pay a visit and divest you of arms, ammo, liberty and life.
Nods and Winks, across the board. It's the New Normal.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at August 11, 2023 12:27 PM (e6UQI)
97
Howdy, fellow right wingers! Ida been here sooner but Is out rustlin up some grub.
Posted by: Mike Pence at August 11, 2023 12:26 PM (u73oe)
I can't wait for you to "go'in get you a beer."
Posted by: Mike Pence at August 11, 2023 12:26 PM (u73oe)
I can't wait for you to "go'in get you a beer."
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 11, 2023 12:27 PM (Zz0t1)
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81 The bizarre coordinated overreaction to Jan. 6 was pretty indicative. They wanted a violent murderous riot, and when they didn't get one (aside from their own thugs murdering unarmed people), they proceeded as if it had happened anyway.
Posted by: spindrift at August 11, 2023 12:25 PM (FRu7m)
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It's what a regime that knows it only tipped the scales a teeny tiny bit, but the country as a whole is largely behind them, would do.
Posted by: spindrift at August 11, 2023 12:25 PM (FRu7m)
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It's what a regime that knows it only tipped the scales a teeny tiny bit, but the country as a whole is largely behind them, would do.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 11, 2023 12:27 PM (LvTSG)
99
Weiss is now a "special counsel" but who cares, he has already shown his colors. Hunter will walk
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 11, 2023 12:27 PM (pVWRI)
100
You know who else didn’t see this obvious trap that others could see coming from a million miles away?
Not this sh*t again
Not this sh*t again
Posted by: Adm Akbar at August 11, 2023 12:27 PM (lc5cP)
101
There goes the Hose investigation or any chance of an Impeachment... Clever
Posted by: It's me donna at August 11, 2023 12:26 PM (bs+z0)
House not hose but in this case about the same cause we're gonna be hosed
Posted by: It's me donna at August 11, 2023 12:26 PM (bs+z0)
House not hose but in this case about the same cause we're gonna be hosed
Posted by: It's me donna at August 11, 2023 12:27 PM (bs+z0)
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45 >>>Nothing bad is ever Trump’s fault according to you guys. Though everything good that happened was because of Trump and only he could have done it.
It's true. However, there is another large segment of people that believe him responsible every bad occurrence up to and including watergate.
So, there's that
It's true. However, there is another large segment of people that believe him responsible every bad occurrence up to and including watergate.
So, there's that
Posted by: ed gibbon at August 11, 2023 12:27 PM (U9Pyi)
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When you think about -
It is really Trump's fault he was up to his armpits with seditious fvcks for his entire term.
Trump had his choice, comply or they would destroy him.
Trump chose poorly.
It is really Trump's fault he was up to his armpits with seditious fvcks for his entire term.
Trump had his choice, comply or they would destroy him.
Trump chose poorly.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at August 11, 2023 12:28 PM (ga8qR)
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89 Trump is a terrible judge of character and failed in his appointments.
Trump was easily duped by nearly every person he appointed.
The latter is actually the optimistic perspective.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 11, 2023 12:26 PM (qWW+5)
========
There is also the defense that he needed to get most of his appointments through the Senate, run by Mitch McConnell.
Trump was easily duped by nearly every person he appointed.
The latter is actually the optimistic perspective.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 11, 2023 12:26 PM (qWW+5)
========
There is also the defense that he needed to get most of his appointments through the Senate, run by Mitch McConnell.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 11, 2023 12:28 PM (LvTSG)
105
Jan 6 was planned to happen either way.
Remember the Left adores storming capital buildings and courthouses. It's *what they do*.
They were going to do it if the fraud machine didn't work, then they were going to blame Trump for the reaction of the Capitol Police which was all coordinated.
There would have been bloodshed and it would have overtaken his second term. Republicans would have had another reason besides Russia to not cooperate with the presidency (again). Jan 6 was the next "insurance policy".
Remember the Left adores storming capital buildings and courthouses. It's *what they do*.
They were going to do it if the fraud machine didn't work, then they were going to blame Trump for the reaction of the Capitol Police which was all coordinated.
There would have been bloodshed and it would have overtaken his second term. Republicans would have had another reason besides Russia to not cooperate with the presidency (again). Jan 6 was the next "insurance policy".
Posted by: ... at August 11, 2023 12:28 PM (QSXi6)
106
and congrats to Sponge!
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at August 11, 2023 12:28 PM (xcxpd)
107
Let me ask you straight-up: Is literally anything Trump does ever Trump's fault or nah?
Posted by: ace at August 11, 2023 12:21 PM (KRtlO)
Of course. I still blame him wholeheartedly for the f*cking vaccine.
Posted by: ace at August 11, 2023 12:21 PM (KRtlO)
Of course. I still blame him wholeheartedly for the f*cking vaccine.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 11, 2023 12:29 PM (Zz0t1)
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and congrats to Sponge!
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at August 11, 2023 12:28 PM (xcxpd)
*fistbump*
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at August 11, 2023 12:28 PM (xcxpd)
*fistbump*
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 11, 2023 12:29 PM (Zz0t1)
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( chuckles maniacally ...)
@BNONews 7m
BREAKING: U.S. Attorney General Merrick Garland appoints special counsel to oversee Hunter Biden probe
@BNONews 7m
BREAKING: U.S. Attorney General Merrick Garland appoints special counsel to oversee Hunter Biden probe
Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 11, 2023 12:29 PM (IG4Id)
110
Regarding Trump's judgement:
Hindsight is Golden
I doubt many of the critics would have done any better.
Hindsight is Golden
I doubt many of the critics would have done any better.
Posted by: pawn at August 11, 2023 12:29 PM (wsHtO)
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at August 11, 2023 12:30 PM (ga8qR)
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109 ( chuckles maniacally ...)
@BNONews 7m
BREAKING: U.S. Attorney General Merrick Garland appoints special counsel to oversee Hunter Biden probe
Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 11, 2023 12:29 PM (IG4Id)
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*please be Durham...for the lulz*
@BNONews 7m
BREAKING: U.S. Attorney General Merrick Garland appoints special counsel to oversee Hunter Biden probe
Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 11, 2023 12:29 PM (IG4Id)
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*please be Durham...for the lulz*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 11, 2023 12:30 PM (LvTSG)
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The thing is that if Trump didn't exist they would have to invent him. Mistakes and all.
They are going to do the exact same stuff to absolutely anyone who sticks their head out in opposition.
Bernie and Kamala got with the program early and have been richly rewarded, JFK Jr. can't even get secret service protection.
DeSantis, Vivek, and everyone else will suffer the same fate as Trump because they will be worse than Hitler in their turn. Pence, Christy,and Nikki will play along.
Doesn't matter who makes mistakes, who runs a perfect campaign, who is the nicest and whether we vote harder or not.
No one not of the body will be allowed to govern, period.
They are going to do the exact same stuff to absolutely anyone who sticks their head out in opposition.
Bernie and Kamala got with the program early and have been richly rewarded, JFK Jr. can't even get secret service protection.
DeSantis, Vivek, and everyone else will suffer the same fate as Trump because they will be worse than Hitler in their turn. Pence, Christy,and Nikki will play along.
Doesn't matter who makes mistakes, who runs a perfect campaign, who is the nicest and whether we vote harder or not.
No one not of the body will be allowed to govern, period.
Posted by: Just Lily at August 11, 2023 12:30 PM (RLLZj)
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JustTheNews:
When Tenny claimed the injunction's wording was so broad and vague it could ban the government from alerting the public about "untrue statements" about a natural disaster, Judge Don Willett countered that documented private conversations were the issue.
Federal officials appeared to practice "fairly unsubtle strong-arming" and make "not-so-veiled threats" in the vein of "this is a really nice social media platform you've got there, would be a shame if something happened to it," Willett said.
Tenny, upon hearing what the judges appeared to be interpreting as coercive pressure, tried to soft pedal the severity of that pressure. "The government is generically going to be angry" when companies resist taking action, but the communications show officials and companies alternating between "friendly" and "testy" conversations, not specific orders to comply "or else."
Judge Elrod didn't seem particularly convinced, telling Tenny that "Or else" isn't required when the government and companies have a "very close working relationship" that resembles a supervisor addressing a subordinate.
When Tenny claimed the injunction's wording was so broad and vague it could ban the government from alerting the public about "untrue statements" about a natural disaster, Judge Don Willett countered that documented private conversations were the issue.
Federal officials appeared to practice "fairly unsubtle strong-arming" and make "not-so-veiled threats" in the vein of "this is a really nice social media platform you've got there, would be a shame if something happened to it," Willett said.
Tenny, upon hearing what the judges appeared to be interpreting as coercive pressure, tried to soft pedal the severity of that pressure. "The government is generically going to be angry" when companies resist taking action, but the communications show officials and companies alternating between "friendly" and "testy" conversations, not specific orders to comply "or else."
Judge Elrod didn't seem particularly convinced, telling Tenny that "Or else" isn't required when the government and companies have a "very close working relationship" that resembles a supervisor addressing a subordinate.
Posted by: SMOD at August 11, 2023 12:30 PM (RHGPo)
115
90 David Weiss is named Special Counsel in Hunter Biden probe.
Posted by: redridinghood
It's a Weisswash!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 11, 2023 12:26 PM (FVME7)
Protects the big guy from congressional scrutiny and possibly impeachment by hiding everything under the cover of investigative privilege.
Posted by: redridinghood
It's a Weisswash!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 11, 2023 12:26 PM (FVME7)
Protects the big guy from congressional scrutiny and possibly impeachment by hiding everything under the cover of investigative privilege.
Posted by: 7man at August 11, 2023 12:30 PM (qwO6y)
116
There is also the defense that he needed to get most of his appointments through the Senate, run by Mitch McConnell.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 11, 2023 12:28 PM (LvTSG)
I can concede that.
Do we have much evidence that most of Trump's initial picks were rejected and blocked by McConnell?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 11, 2023 12:28 PM (LvTSG)
I can concede that.
Do we have much evidence that most of Trump's initial picks were rejected and blocked by McConnell?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 11, 2023 12:30 PM (qWW+5)
117
Let me ask you straight-up: Is literally anything Trump does ever Trump's fault or nah?
Posted by: ace at August 11, 2023 12:21 PM (KRtlO)
I've thought about this a lot. And I don't think any choice he made was less than optimal in the circumstances. Seriously. I think the dude (fat) is a genius and a Statesman.
He and I don't share much social issue commonality. But I think he did a masterful job working with what he had to work with.
And, I don't know of a single american who could have accomplished so mucb while limiting the inevitable losses.
The other guy gets to punch back.
I accept this is a minority position, but that's what I think after sig reflection.
I am from Philly and proud of it. I fucking live to tear my teams apart. I prefer it over victory.
Posted by: ace at August 11, 2023 12:21 PM (KRtlO)
I've thought about this a lot. And I don't think any choice he made was less than optimal in the circumstances. Seriously. I think the dude (fat) is a genius and a Statesman.
He and I don't share much social issue commonality. But I think he did a masterful job working with what he had to work with.
And, I don't know of a single american who could have accomplished so mucb while limiting the inevitable losses.
The other guy gets to punch back.
I accept this is a minority position, but that's what I think after sig reflection.
I am from Philly and proud of it. I fucking live to tear my teams apart. I prefer it over victory.
Posted by: Thesokorus at August 11, 2023 12:30 PM (X1EMB)
118
110 Hindsight is Golden
I doubt many of the critics would have done any better.
Posted by: pawn at August 11, 2023 12:29 PM (wsHtO)
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That second thing isn't really a mark in Trump's favor over any other particular candidate. "No one else would have done worse." Okay, how about one of those that would have done just as well?
I doubt many of the critics would have done any better.
Posted by: pawn at August 11, 2023 12:29 PM (wsHtO)
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That second thing isn't really a mark in Trump's favor over any other particular candidate. "No one else would have done worse." Okay, how about one of those that would have done just as well?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 11, 2023 12:30 PM (LvTSG)
119
The only way they can declare martial law and take your guns is by creating complete and utter chaos EVERYWHERE.
The public will DEMAND they disarm everyone at that point.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 11, 2023 12:25 PM (Zz0t1)
I'm skeptical about the success of that straterery.
The public will DEMAND they disarm everyone at that point.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 11, 2023 12:25 PM (Zz0t1)
I'm skeptical about the success of that straterery.
Posted by: BignJames at August 11, 2023 12:30 PM (AwYPR)
120
*please be Durham...for the lulz*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 11, 2023 12:30 PM (LvTSG)
Weiss.. The guy who let it slide last time
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 11, 2023 12:30 PM (LvTSG)
Weiss.. The guy who let it slide last time
Posted by: It's me donna at August 11, 2023 12:31 PM (bs+z0)
121
Oh, look. Another one.
16-year-old cheerleader dead after ‘probably’ going into cardiac arrest, father says
https://tinyurl.com/yv729zy9
16-year-old cheerleader dead after ‘probably’ going into cardiac arrest, father says
https://tinyurl.com/yv729zy9
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 11, 2023 12:31 PM (FVME7)
122
…………………
You sir are retarded . Also you and your fellow tards made similar claims in 2016 .
Posted by: polynikes at August 11, 2023 12:26 PM (MNhXM)
Shit. Let's go back to all the shit they said GWB was going to do when HE got re-elected........
They only accuse others of what they're already doing tenfold.
See: Government involvement with social media companies
You sir are retarded . Also you and your fellow tards made similar claims in 2016 .
Posted by: polynikes at August 11, 2023 12:26 PM (MNhXM)
Shit. Let's go back to all the shit they said GWB was going to do when HE got re-elected........
They only accuse others of what they're already doing tenfold.
See: Government involvement with social media companies
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 11, 2023 12:31 PM (Zz0t1)
123
The guy with the Ken doll hair on the Timcast video sure loves him some TikTok. It's weird to me how strongly he defended it against concerns about the CCP connection, not to mention ignoring its role in spreading the trans/GI social contagion.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at August 11, 2023 12:31 PM (ssESX)
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There is also the defense that he needed to get most of his appointments through the Senate, run by Mitch McConnell.
If you're unwilling to "go to the mattresses" to get your own noms through your own party, you aren't going to succeed.
Even if McConnell had torpedoed Trump's noms, that would have been an extremely clarifying moment, and McConnell probably wouldn't be in charge today.
Besides, I keep hearing the Trump Hallelujah Choir telling us he's the only one in the history of ever who actually fights.
If you're unwilling to "go to the mattresses" to get your own noms through your own party, you aren't going to succeed.
Even if McConnell had torpedoed Trump's noms, that would have been an extremely clarifying moment, and McConnell probably wouldn't be in charge today.
Besides, I keep hearing the Trump Hallelujah Choir telling us he's the only one in the history of ever who actually fights.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 11, 2023 12:31 PM (eOEVl)
125
Did not Weiss testify in front of Congress on this and lie about whether he had authority to charge Hunter?
Posted by: Jen the original at August 11, 2023 12:31 PM (I5ZE2)
126
@63
>>While Trump certainly bears some of the blame for poor personnel choices, let's make sure the bulk of the blame goes where it belongs: Pelosi, Milley, and their ilk. Their ilk must pay.
Before Trump, did anyone truly suspect or understand, truly, how corrupt and perverse Washington was?
I mean did anyone think a Joint Chief would subvert a lawfully elected Presidents express orders?
Did anyone think Mad Puppy Mattiss was in the final analysis, a gigantic POS?
I thought the Rex Tillerson pick would be a good pick being that he was the F**KING CEO of EXXON and a business man.
Jeff Sessions anyone.
And on and on, a lot of these so-called bad picks were not bad picks at first blush.
I mean The Panopticon Trump faced was mind-boggling to the point of them attempting to DESTROY THE F**KING WORLD, to get rid of him.
>>While Trump certainly bears some of the blame for poor personnel choices, let's make sure the bulk of the blame goes where it belongs: Pelosi, Milley, and their ilk. Their ilk must pay.
Before Trump, did anyone truly suspect or understand, truly, how corrupt and perverse Washington was?
I mean did anyone think a Joint Chief would subvert a lawfully elected Presidents express orders?
Did anyone think Mad Puppy Mattiss was in the final analysis, a gigantic POS?
I thought the Rex Tillerson pick would be a good pick being that he was the F**KING CEO of EXXON and a business man.
Jeff Sessions anyone.
And on and on, a lot of these so-called bad picks were not bad picks at first blush.
I mean The Panopticon Trump faced was mind-boggling to the point of them attempting to DESTROY THE F**KING WORLD, to get rid of him.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 11, 2023 12:31 PM (HE2Ga)
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"One of two things must be true:
Trump is a terrible judge of character and failed in his appointments.
Trump was easily duped by nearly every person he appointed."
There's a third possibility: many politicians don't have a spine and the Washington bureaucracy's threats and promises proved effective in inducing Trump's appointees to work against him and his goals. Also, many may have had their own goals, e.g. they were more faithful to the Bush family, which clearly worked against Trump. Possibly, there were just a few incorruptible people and those were neutralized (Flynn? Bannon?).
Trump is a terrible judge of character and failed in his appointments.
Trump was easily duped by nearly every person he appointed."
There's a third possibility: many politicians don't have a spine and the Washington bureaucracy's threats and promises proved effective in inducing Trump's appointees to work against him and his goals. Also, many may have had their own goals, e.g. they were more faithful to the Bush family, which clearly worked against Trump. Possibly, there were just a few incorruptible people and those were neutralized (Flynn? Bannon?).
Posted by: PG at August 11, 2023 12:31 PM (84jHt)
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>>>There is also the defense that he needed to get most of his appointments through the Senate, run by Mitch McConnell.
sure sure sure
sure sure sure
Posted by: David French Invites You to Spend a Highly Cultured Weekend Inside His Wife at August 11, 2023 12:32 PM (KRtlO)
129
I 100% believe Nancy had a hand in this.
Despite being "so scared" she had her daughter's documentary crew with her, as she gave play by play. She also just so happened to know when Epps was on top of a tower giving orders in his full MAGA gear, as she walked down the hall, to a window, and wow hes right there as they pan. Bet they ran a few walk throughs with stand ins before the actual shoot, like all movies.
Action through inaction is the best way to give yourself an alibi, Nancy knew exactly what was going on, and how to make it work.
Despite being "so scared" she had her daughter's documentary crew with her, as she gave play by play. She also just so happened to know when Epps was on top of a tower giving orders in his full MAGA gear, as she walked down the hall, to a window, and wow hes right there as they pan. Bet they ran a few walk throughs with stand ins before the actual shoot, like all movies.
Action through inaction is the best way to give yourself an alibi, Nancy knew exactly what was going on, and how to make it work.
Posted by: Rbastid at August 11, 2023 12:32 PM (wap8a)
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Not surprised about Miley, e shouhave been charged with treason years ago
Posted by: Skip at August 11, 2023 12:32 PM (FJUxs)
131
No one not of the body will be allowed to govern, period.
Posted by: Just Lily at August 11, 2023 12:30 PM (RLLZj)
So true
Posted by: Just Lily at August 11, 2023 12:30 PM (RLLZj)
So true
Posted by: 7man at August 11, 2023 12:32 PM (qwO6y)
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Do not forget, those of you who complain that Trump has a terrible "trust radar", many of you fought tooth and nail to defend Barr, Cruz, Haley, Noem, and now some other people who haven't earned any more trust from you than those who had earned trust from Trump.
Will you apologize when your latest Republican love bunny shows himself for what he really is in living color? Will you say "Fuck, I guess my judgment is no better than Donald Trump's"?
Will you apologize when your latest Republican love bunny shows himself for what he really is in living color? Will you say "Fuck, I guess my judgment is no better than Donald Trump's"?
Posted by: ... at August 11, 2023 12:32 PM (QSXi6)
133
I see the circular firing squad is still going, so I will go elsewhere.
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 11, 2023 12:32 PM (lkmtx)
134
Look at the George Floyd Riots in Minneapolis
Look at the Jacob Blake riots in Kenosha!
Governor Evers called out almost enough police and National Guard to protect the government buildings in downtown Kenosha. He let the businesses away from downtown Kenosha Burn!
There were three freaking nights of riot and arson in Kenosha. You know why there was not a FOURTH night? Kyle Rittenhouse and a dozen citizens with guns. Not Governor Evers. Not the WI National Guard. Not the police.
Kyle Rittenhouse was why the riots stopped in Kenosha.
Look at the Jacob Blake riots in Kenosha!
Governor Evers called out almost enough police and National Guard to protect the government buildings in downtown Kenosha. He let the businesses away from downtown Kenosha Burn!
There were three freaking nights of riot and arson in Kenosha. You know why there was not a FOURTH night? Kyle Rittenhouse and a dozen citizens with guns. Not Governor Evers. Not the WI National Guard. Not the police.
Kyle Rittenhouse was why the riots stopped in Kenosha.
Posted by: rd at August 11, 2023 12:32 PM (hhb1F)
135
I've deleted the "Trump's picks" line, not because it's not completely true (it is) but because this post is not supposed to be about that, and I made it about that.
Posted by: ace at August 11, 2023 12:32 PM (KRtlO)
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116 I can concede that.
Do we have much evidence that most of Trump's initial picks were rejected and blocked by McConnell?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 11, 2023 12:30 PM (qWW+5)
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I suspect it's done like most negotiations: behind closed doors.
However, to just ignore it is to ignore a very real reality of how government works. Implying that someone else will do better has to account for this. The only thing I've seen to imply that someone else will do better is to imply that the someone else will staredown McConnell (or Thune, or Cornyn) in a public fight, which is quite the supposition.
Do we have much evidence that most of Trump's initial picks were rejected and blocked by McConnell?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 11, 2023 12:30 PM (qWW+5)
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I suspect it's done like most negotiations: behind closed doors.
However, to just ignore it is to ignore a very real reality of how government works. Implying that someone else will do better has to account for this. The only thing I've seen to imply that someone else will do better is to imply that the someone else will staredown McConnell (or Thune, or Cornyn) in a public fight, which is quite the supposition.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 11, 2023 12:32 PM (LvTSG)
137
*enters room*
It is better to cum a shitload than to shit a cumload.
*runs out of room*
.....now you know!!!!
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It is better to cum a shitload than to shit a cumload.
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I LOVE THAT DUDE ON FACEBOOK! 😂😂😂
Posted by: rickb223 at August 11, 2023 12:32 PM (nW4TA)
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How to respond?
"So when all Israel saw that the king hearkened not unto them, the people answered the king, saying, What portion have we in David? neither have we inheritance in the son of Jesse: to your tents, O Israel: now see to thine own house, David. So Israel departed unto their tents. "
"So when all Israel saw that the king hearkened not unto them, the people answered the king, saying, What portion have we in David? neither have we inheritance in the son of Jesse: to your tents, O Israel: now see to thine own house, David. So Israel departed unto their tents. "
Posted by: Rowsdower Believes Ray Epps is a Fed and Ashli Bennett is Crispus Attucks at August 11, 2023 12:33 PM (ws0IQ)
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@BNONews 7m
BREAKING: U.S. Attorney General Merrick Garland appoints special counsel to oversee Hunter Biden probe
Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 11, 2023 12:29 PM (IG4Id)
And that is it - you will never, ever hear another word about Hunter or Biden for another 7 years - "under investigation and can't reveal anything pertaining to this investigation right now" will be the go-to defense for burying this, like forever.
BREAKING: U.S. Attorney General Merrick Garland appoints special counsel to oversee Hunter Biden probe
Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 11, 2023 12:29 PM (IG4Id)
And that is it - you will never, ever hear another word about Hunter or Biden for another 7 years - "under investigation and can't reveal anything pertaining to this investigation right now" will be the go-to defense for burying this, like forever.
Posted by: Boswell at August 11, 2023 12:33 PM (K+UlC)
140
*please be Durham...for the lulz*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 11, 2023 12:30 PM (LvTSG)
Run out the clock?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 11, 2023 12:30 PM (LvTSG)
Run out the clock?
Posted by: BignJames at August 11, 2023 12:33 PM (AwYPR)
141
Regarding Trump's judgement:
Hindsight is Golden
I doubt many of the critics would have done any better.
Possibly. You know what the difference is? I'M NOT RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT!
Hindsight is Golden
I doubt many of the critics would have done any better.
Possibly. You know what the difference is? I'M NOT RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT!
Posted by: Archimedes at August 11, 2023 12:33 PM (eOEVl)
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...Federal agencies had intelligence suggesting the potential for violence leading up to January 6, including threats against officers, potential use of chemicals, and plans to storm buildings...
Well, they planned and did all that and more.
Remeber when the Nazis attacked their own radio statio and blamed the Poles.
Well, they planned and did all that and more.
Remeber when the Nazis attacked their own radio statio and blamed the Poles.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at August 11, 2023 12:33 PM (ga8qR)
143
I guess that window has closed and now it's Ron DeSantis' fault for not warning Trump enough about Trump being so, so easy to dupe and swindle.
Posted by: ace
= =
Ace, was John Bolton a good pick? We THOUGHT he was at the time, didn't we?
I've been in government for over 25 years and the last 10 have been awful. The good people have all been run off or have retired. Those who are left and are promoted are awful. The kids they hire are awful.
In that reality, how is outsider Trump supposed to get any traction? Why can't he at least get some freaking credit for our energy independence or the economy or building a wall or exiting the Paris Accords or moving the Embassy to Jerusalem or the Abraham Accords, ALL of it in the face of coordinated opposition.
Why didn't congress send him an Obamacare repeal bill?!
I'm just a lowly squirrel. But I hate politicians with a white hot intensity. And politicians have made it exceedingly clear Trump is not welcomed. That alone makes me love the man.
But a final word: People think folks like me are Trump cultists. But that couldn't be further from the truth. I'm an America cultist. Trump just belongs, too.
Posted by: ace
= =
Ace, was John Bolton a good pick? We THOUGHT he was at the time, didn't we?
I've been in government for over 25 years and the last 10 have been awful. The good people have all been run off or have retired. Those who are left and are promoted are awful. The kids they hire are awful.
In that reality, how is outsider Trump supposed to get any traction? Why can't he at least get some freaking credit for our energy independence or the economy or building a wall or exiting the Paris Accords or moving the Embassy to Jerusalem or the Abraham Accords, ALL of it in the face of coordinated opposition.
Why didn't congress send him an Obamacare repeal bill?!
I'm just a lowly squirrel. But I hate politicians with a white hot intensity. And politicians have made it exceedingly clear Trump is not welcomed. That alone makes me love the man.
But a final word: People think folks like me are Trump cultists. But that couldn't be further from the truth. I'm an America cultist. Trump just belongs, too.
Posted by: Darth Chipmunk at August 11, 2023 12:34 PM (AD14M)
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Trump wanted a component of the executive branch to report directly to the chief executive?
What a monster.
What a monster.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 11, 2023 12:34 PM (9UlRk)
145
124 Even if McConnell had torpedoed Trump's noms, that would have been an extremely clarifying moment, and McConnell probably wouldn't be in charge today.
Besides, I keep hearing the Trump Hallelujah Choir telling us he's the only one in the history of ever who actually fights.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 11, 2023 12:31 PM (eOEVl)
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Since McConnell has survived several leadership votes since, I doubt McConnell would have gone anywhere had Trump decided to make a public fight against him happen earlier than it did.
The majority of the Senate GOP is in Mitch's pocket because Mitch funds their re-election campaigns directly.
Besides, I keep hearing the Trump Hallelujah Choir telling us he's the only one in the history of ever who actually fights.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 11, 2023 12:31 PM (eOEVl)
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Since McConnell has survived several leadership votes since, I doubt McConnell would have gone anywhere had Trump decided to make a public fight against him happen earlier than it did.
The majority of the Senate GOP is in Mitch's pocket because Mitch funds their re-election campaigns directly.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 11, 2023 12:34 PM (LvTSG)
146
Do not forget, those of you who complain that Trump has a terrible "trust radar", many of you fought tooth and nail to defend Barr, Cruz, Haley, Noem, and now some other people who haven't earned any more trust from you than those who had earned trust from Trump.
Posted by: ...
Go ahead and name someone that did, and do the courtesy of quoting them.
Go on. I'll wait.
Posted by: ...
Go ahead and name someone that did, and do the courtesy of quoting them.
Go on. I'll wait.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 11, 2023 12:34 PM (IG4Id)
147
Someone had to be the mastermind of the Jan6 Coup D'etat
Posted by: Skip at August 11, 2023 12:34 PM (FJUxs)
148
Kyle Rittenhouse was why the riots stopped in Kenosha.
Posted by: rd
The original "Try That In A Small Town".
Posted by: rd
The original "Try That In A Small Town".
Posted by: rickb223 at August 11, 2023 12:34 PM (nW4TA)
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Garland:
I've appointed a special prosecutor in the Hunter Biden probe, just like I did inthe Biden documents probe. Who is that prosecutor? Hmmm. Not sure I remember. But now you can forget about this issue too because I did something about it. Happy now?
I've appointed a special prosecutor in the Hunter Biden probe, just like I did inthe Biden documents probe. Who is that prosecutor? Hmmm. Not sure I remember. But now you can forget about this issue too because I did something about it. Happy now?
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 11, 2023 12:34 PM (t/2Uw)
150
Do we have much evidence that most of Trump's initial picks were rejected and blocked by McConnell?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 11, 2023 12:30 PM (qWW+5)
I'm past such things as debating Mitch's duplicitousness.
It's perverse.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 11, 2023 12:30 PM (qWW+5)
I'm past such things as debating Mitch's duplicitousness.
It's perverse.
Posted by: Thesokorus at August 11, 2023 12:34 PM (X1EMB)
151
My take, this is how they keep Joey Shitsalot from running again. That way they can put someone else in for the erection !
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 11, 2023 12:34 PM (NtVYv)
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And President DeSantis will never be given a choice from the Uniparty and Civil Service of a shit sandwich with pickles and a shit sandwich with cream cheese, lied to at the time that they're both meatball heroes.
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at August 11, 2023 12:35 PM (krqg6)
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I've deleted the "Trump's picks" line, not because it's not completely true (it is) but because this post is not supposed to be about that, and I made it about that.
Yeah, I think that ship has sailed.
Yeah, I think that ship has sailed.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 11, 2023 12:35 PM (eOEVl)
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"One of two things must be true:
Trump is a terrible judge of character and failed in his appointments.
Trump was easily duped by nearly every person he appointed."
There's a third possibility: many politicians don't have a spine and the Washington bureaucracy's threats and promises proved effective in inducing Trump's appointees to work against him and his goals. Also, many may have had their own goals, e.g. they were more faithful to the Bush family, which clearly worked against Trump. Possibly, there were just a few incorruptible people and those were neutralized (Flynn? Bannon?).
There is a simple 4th explanation ...
The pool of available talent is God-awful thin
Trump is a terrible judge of character and failed in his appointments.
Trump was easily duped by nearly every person he appointed."
There's a third possibility: many politicians don't have a spine and the Washington bureaucracy's threats and promises proved effective in inducing Trump's appointees to work against him and his goals. Also, many may have had their own goals, e.g. they were more faithful to the Bush family, which clearly worked against Trump. Possibly, there were just a few incorruptible people and those were neutralized (Flynn? Bannon?).
There is a simple 4th explanation ...
The pool of available talent is God-awful thin
Posted by: SMOD at August 11, 2023 12:35 PM (RHGPo)
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135 I've deleted the "Trump's picks" line, not because it's not completely true (it is) but because this post is not supposed to be about that, and I made it about that.
Posted by: ace at August 11, 2023 12:32 PM (KRtlO)
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*does own part to keep thread Prometheus free*
Posted by: ace at August 11, 2023 12:32 PM (KRtlO)
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*considers mentioning Prometheus as a substitute*
*thinks better of mentioning Prometheus as a substitute and does not mention Prometheus as a substitute*
*does own part to keep thread Prometheus free*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 11, 2023 12:35 PM (LvTSG)
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Someone had to be the mastermind of the Jan6 Coup D'etat
Posted by: Skip
The No Labels Party.
People we've never heard of.
Posted by: Skip
The No Labels Party.
People we've never heard of.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 11, 2023 12:35 PM (nW4TA)
157
>>>Ace, was John Bolton a good pick? We THOUGHT he was at the time, didn't we?
no "we" didn't. John Bolton is an unreconstructed neocon whose policies are nearly 180 degrees away from Trump's. John Bolton merely had that which trump craves -- a television presence.
Trump likes his Brand Names, even when they're his ideological enemies.
no "we" didn't. John Bolton is an unreconstructed neocon whose policies are nearly 180 degrees away from Trump's. John Bolton merely had that which trump craves -- a television presence.
Trump likes his Brand Names, even when they're his ideological enemies.
Posted by: ace at August 11, 2023 12:35 PM (KRtlO)
158
So a bunch of military guys sitting around thinking about violence and used to hearing military-styled intel, and not hearing the police intel, which is actually suited for American urban situations, so they just revert to form. Everyone is a hammer and they are desperate for a nail.
Any nail.
Any mail will do.
Any nail.
Any mail will do.
Posted by: Diogenes at August 11, 2023 12:35 PM (hv9bm)
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Kyle Rittenhouse was why the riots stopped in Kenosha.
Posted by: rd
The original "Try That In A Small Town".
Posted by: rickb223 at August 11, 2023 12:34 PM (nW4TA)
The Kenosha Hat Trick. Never forget
Posted by: rd
The original "Try That In A Small Town".
Posted by: rickb223 at August 11, 2023 12:34 PM (nW4TA)
The Kenosha Hat Trick. Never forget
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 11, 2023 12:35 PM (NtVYv)
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@amuse
OBSTRUCTION of CONGRESS: Merrick Garland appoints David Weiss as special counsel to prevent the House from investigating the DOJ’s sweetheart deal with Hunter and his sale of Joe’s influence. The special counsel will block Congressional oversight until after the 2024 election.
OBSTRUCTION of CONGRESS: Merrick Garland appoints David Weiss as special counsel to prevent the House from investigating the DOJ’s sweetheart deal with Hunter and his sale of Joe’s influence. The special counsel will block Congressional oversight until after the 2024 election.
Posted by: redridinghood at August 11, 2023 12:36 PM (NpAcC)
Posted by: Montec at August 11, 2023 12:36 PM (yx8Q1)
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the only thing Bolton and Trump agree on is that America should come first -- but Bolton says to make America first, we have to invade everyone who might one day think about threatening America. Obviously, that is not Trump's vision of American First at all.
Posted by: ace at August 11, 2023 12:36 PM (KRtlO)
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Literally nobody on this side of the Republican party thought John Fucking Bolton was a good pick for anything other than Dude Most Likely to Get Cum in His Mustache.
Christ
Christ
Posted by: ballistic at August 11, 2023 12:36 PM (oXNqT)
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There is no absolute right to free speech, according to the judge overseeing the upcoming Trump trial. Especially for Donald Trump. Or Emmanuel Goldstein, take your pick.
So in this here New Regime, we should all be careful about what we say and write, especially about that upstanding public spirited citizen, Ray Epps, and the noble leadership of our country, President Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi and Senator Charles Schumer.
Take care. Big Shithead is watching what you say.
So in this here New Regime, we should all be careful about what we say and write, especially about that upstanding public spirited citizen, Ray Epps, and the noble leadership of our country, President Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi and Senator Charles Schumer.
Take care. Big Shithead is watching what you say.
Posted by: Barnacle Bill the sailor at August 11, 2023 12:36 PM (vcOmj)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 11, 2023 12:36 PM (zZu0s)
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I LOVE THAT DUDE ON FACEBOOK! 😂😂😂
Posted by: rickb223 at August 11, 2023 12:32 PM (nW4TA)
I get them sent to me occasionally. They're usually pretty hysterical.
I LOVE THAT DUDE ON FACEBOOK! 😂😂😂
Posted by: rickb223 at August 11, 2023 12:32 PM (nW4TA)
I get them sent to me occasionally. They're usually pretty hysterical.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 11, 2023 12:36 PM (Zz0t1)
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>>60 @amuse
OBSTRUCTION of CONGRESS: Merrick Garland appoints David Weiss as special counsel to prevent the House from investigating the DOJ’s sweetheart deal with Hunter and his sale of Joe’s influence. The special counsel will block Congressional oversight until after the 2024 election.
you're kidding me, aren't you?
OMG.
OBSTRUCTION of CONGRESS: Merrick Garland appoints David Weiss as special counsel to prevent the House from investigating the DOJ’s sweetheart deal with Hunter and his sale of Joe’s influence. The special counsel will block Congressional oversight until after the 2024 election.
you're kidding me, aren't you?
OMG.
Posted by: ace at August 11, 2023 12:37 PM (KRtlO)
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Trump is the only one fighting the real enemy: The GOP.
Fighting Generals are a dime a dozen. Napoleons Marshalls and Zhukhovs and Moltkes are rare.
Fighting Generals are a dime a dozen. Napoleons Marshalls and Zhukhovs and Moltkes are rare.
Posted by: Thesokorus at August 11, 2023 12:37 PM (X1EMB)
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Since McConnell has survived several leadership votes since, I doubt McConnell would have gone anywhere had Trump decided to make a public fight against him happen earlier than it did.
The majority of the Senate GOP is in Mitch's pocket because Mitch funds their re-election campaigns directly.
I guess we'll never know, since Trump, by the admission of the Trump acolytes, didn't actually fight.
The majority of the Senate GOP is in Mitch's pocket because Mitch funds their re-election campaigns directly.
I guess we'll never know, since Trump, by the admission of the Trump acolytes, didn't actually fight.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 11, 2023 12:37 PM (eOEVl)
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162 the only thing Bolton and Trump agree on is that America should come first -- but Bolton says to make America first, we have to invade everyone who might one day think about threatening America. Obviously, that is not Trump's vision of American First at all.
Posted by: ace at August 11, 2023 12:36 PM (KRtlO)
Wait, is that pro 'stache or not?
Posted by: ace at August 11, 2023 12:36 PM (KRtlO)
Wait, is that pro 'stache or not?
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 11, 2023 12:37 PM (zZu0s)
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Biggest question is what do we do about it?
Posted by: rickb223 at August 11, 2023 12:14 PM (nW4TA)
^^Unfortunately the Truth doesn't seem to give us any leverage for justice.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 11, 2023 12:14 PM (nW4TA)
^^Unfortunately the Truth doesn't seem to give us any leverage for justice.
Posted by: Iris at August 11, 2023 12:38 PM (n3DL0)
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167 >>60 @amuse
OBSTRUCTION of CONGRESS: Merrick Garland appoints David Weiss as special counsel to prevent the House from investigating the DOJ’s sweetheart deal with Hunter and his sale of Joe’s influence. The special counsel will block Congressional oversight until after the 2024 election.
you're kidding me, aren't you?
OMG.
Posted by: ace at August 11, 2023 12:37 PM (KRtlO)
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The GOP will accept it, shrug, and ask for money.
They could defund the special council system in the budget and stand firm in the face of the shit storm that would follow, but they won't.
OBSTRUCTION of CONGRESS: Merrick Garland appoints David Weiss as special counsel to prevent the House from investigating the DOJ’s sweetheart deal with Hunter and his sale of Joe’s influence. The special counsel will block Congressional oversight until after the 2024 election.
you're kidding me, aren't you?
OMG.
Posted by: ace at August 11, 2023 12:37 PM (KRtlO)
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The GOP will accept it, shrug, and ask for money.
They could defund the special council system in the budget and stand firm in the face of the shit storm that would follow, but they won't.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 11, 2023 12:38 PM (LvTSG)
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One of two things must be true:
Trump is a terrible judge of character and failed in his appointments.
Trump was easily duped by nearly every person he appointed.
The latter is actually the optimistic perspective.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 11, 2023 12:26 PM (qWW+5)
Id say it's #2, as we see how you can easily get Trump to go gaga over you as long as you blow smoke up his ass.
Just look at this story about him refusing to endorse the eventual Republican nominee. He said he'd only endorse 2, one being Tim Scott, and his very reasoning was "he's said nice things about me" 90% of the shit Scott has proposed since in office is BLM favored horsecrap.
So because someone said something nice about him, he'll support the actual weak RINO over guys who have done a hell of a lot more to fight Dems and put America first, than even Trump.
Trump is a terrible judge of character and failed in his appointments.
Trump was easily duped by nearly every person he appointed.
The latter is actually the optimistic perspective.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 11, 2023 12:26 PM (qWW+5)
Id say it's #2, as we see how you can easily get Trump to go gaga over you as long as you blow smoke up his ass.
Just look at this story about him refusing to endorse the eventual Republican nominee. He said he'd only endorse 2, one being Tim Scott, and his very reasoning was "he's said nice things about me" 90% of the shit Scott has proposed since in office is BLM favored horsecrap.
So because someone said something nice about him, he'll support the actual weak RINO over guys who have done a hell of a lot more to fight Dems and put America first, than even Trump.
Posted by: Rbastid at August 11, 2023 12:38 PM (wap8a)
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Trump likes his Brand Names, even when they're his ideological enemies.
Posted by: ace
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No news is bad news. No photo op is a bad photo op. As long as they’re talking about him, all good.
Posted by: ace
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No news is bad news. No photo op is a bad photo op. As long as they’re talking about him, all good.
Posted by: Montec at August 11, 2023 12:38 PM (yx8Q1)
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you're kidding me, aren't you?
OMG.
Posted by: ace at August 11, 2023 12:37 PM (KRtlO)
So, ace you have a job ahead of you: how is this Trump's fault?
OMG.
Posted by: ace at August 11, 2023 12:37 PM (KRtlO)
So, ace you have a job ahead of you: how is this Trump's fault?
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 11, 2023 12:38 PM (zZu0s)
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143. Thank you .
Posted by: Jen the original at August 11, 2023 12:39 PM (I5ZE2)
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With all this new information, why has there been no appeals from the J6 defendents? Is there no mechanism to get them released or their convictions reviewed at least? Is there no way to at least get bond posted for the ones sittiing in jail for years awaiting trial? So much for the presumption of innocence. Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 11, 2023 12:13 PM (t/2Uw)
@sharon, in almost all cases they've plea bargained. If you plead guilty to a lesser charge, it's almost certainly non-appealable.
@sharon, in almost all cases they've plea bargained. If you plead guilty to a lesser charge, it's almost certainly non-appealable.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at August 11, 2023 12:39 PM (7B5FA)
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@160 One might think Weiss is second only to Smith in the DC phone book as often as I see the name.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at August 11, 2023 12:39 PM (ssESX)
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How can the AG forbid congress from investigating?
Posted by: Montec at August 11, 2023 12:39 PM (yx8Q1)
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I guess we'll never know, since Trump, by the admission of the Trump acolytes, didn't actually fight.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 11, 2023 12:37 PM (eOEVl)
Your position is that DJT is not in an existential struggle with the GOP?
That he hasn't fought the GOP as hard as someone else would have?
That it is possible to fight the GOP harder? Smarter?
Posted by: Archimedes at August 11, 2023 12:37 PM (eOEVl)
Your position is that DJT is not in an existential struggle with the GOP?
That he hasn't fought the GOP as hard as someone else would have?
That it is possible to fight the GOP harder? Smarter?
Posted by: Thesokorus at August 11, 2023 12:39 PM (X1EMB)
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And on and on, a lot of these so-called bad picks were not bad picks at first blush.
I mean The Panopticon Trump faced was mind-boggling to the point of them attempting to DESTROY THE F**KING WORLD, to get rid of him.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 11, 2023 12:31 PM (HE2Ga)
Another possibility, and I'm just spitballin' here, is that who ever is selected is subjected to very effective pressure and is corrupted after the appointment.
Epstein Island can't be the only influence program.
Did I show you guys my spiffy new tin foil chin strap for my hat?
I mean The Panopticon Trump faced was mind-boggling to the point of them attempting to DESTROY THE F**KING WORLD, to get rid of him.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 11, 2023 12:31 PM (HE2Ga)
Another possibility, and I'm just spitballin' here, is that who ever is selected is subjected to very effective pressure and is corrupted after the appointment.
Epstein Island can't be the only influence program.
Did I show you guys my spiffy new tin foil chin strap for my hat?
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at August 11, 2023 12:39 PM (z+89e)
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I seem to remember there being a whole lot of support for Bolton here.
The whole "stache" thing......
Hell. Nikki Haley had a lot of backing when she was UN appointee.
The whole "stache" thing......
Hell. Nikki Haley had a lot of backing when she was UN appointee.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 11, 2023 12:39 PM (Zz0t1)
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169 I guess we'll never know, since Trump, by the admission of the Trump acolytes, didn't actually fight.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 11, 2023 12:37 PM (eOEVl)
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I don't see any candidate as the kind of rule breaker. None would disobey a SCOTUS order. None would tell a circuit judge to pound sand. None would defy Congress by declaring lines of spending to be unconstitutional and refuse to do it (Jefferson did this).
We have, at best, a handful of reformers, a bunch of grifters, and no one else running for president. We don't have a Cromwell.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 11, 2023 12:37 PM (eOEVl)
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I don't see any candidate as the kind of rule breaker. None would disobey a SCOTUS order. None would tell a circuit judge to pound sand. None would defy Congress by declaring lines of spending to be unconstitutional and refuse to do it (Jefferson did this).
We have, at best, a handful of reformers, a bunch of grifters, and no one else running for president. We don't have a Cromwell.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 11, 2023 12:39 PM (LvTSG)
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Since McConnell has survived several leadership votes since, I doubt McConnell would have gone anywhere had Trump decided to make a public fight against him happen earlier than it did.
The majority of the Senate GOP is in Mitch's pocket because Mitch funds their re-election campaigns directly.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
It's kind of like "Publisher's Clearinghouse Sweepstakes", except it's about passing around the graft money to the lucky Senators that win "let's bend over for Mitch!"
The majority of the Senate GOP is in Mitch's pocket because Mitch funds their re-election campaigns directly.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
It's kind of like "Publisher's Clearinghouse Sweepstakes", except it's about passing around the graft money to the lucky Senators that win "let's bend over for Mitch!"
Posted by: Barnacle Bill the sailor at August 11, 2023 12:40 PM (vcOmj)
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179 How can the AG forbid congress from investigating?
Posted by: Montec at August 11, 2023 12:39 PM (yx8Q1)
On going investigation
Posted by: Montec at August 11, 2023 12:39 PM (yx8Q1)
On going investigation
Posted by: It's me donna at August 11, 2023 12:40 PM (bs+z0)
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I get them sent to me occasionally. They're usually pretty hysterical.
Posted by: Sponge
Whoever thinks those PSA - Skeletor bits up is genius.
Posted by: Sponge
Whoever thinks those PSA - Skeletor bits up is genius.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 11, 2023 12:40 PM (nW4TA)
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182 Hell. Nikki Haley had a lot of backing when she was UN appointee.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 11, 2023 12:39 PM (Zz0t1)
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She put on a good show as UN ambassador. It was theater, and I called it as so, but it was still a decent show.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 11, 2023 12:39 PM (Zz0t1)
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She put on a good show as UN ambassador. It was theater, and I called it as so, but it was still a decent show.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 11, 2023 12:40 PM (LvTSG)
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I have to admit that I find this back and forth regarding Trump darkly amusing.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 11, 2023 12:40 PM (Xrfse)
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Again it's wangle and wiggle and piss and moan about who's quarterback is better when the whole league just got sold off to a foreign sheik for parts.
Who gives a fuck. "Buh muh Trump!" "Buh yer Trump!" "Oh yeah well buh muh Trump!" "Nuh uh buh yer Trump!" "Yer a cult!" "Your mom's a cult!"
Arguing about which side of the sail to fart on when the boat's teetering on a sand bar at low tide, and half of it's on fire.
Who gives a fuck. "Buh muh Trump!" "Buh yer Trump!" "Oh yeah well buh muh Trump!" "Nuh uh buh yer Trump!" "Yer a cult!" "Your mom's a cult!"
Arguing about which side of the sail to fart on when the boat's teetering on a sand bar at low tide, and half of it's on fire.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 11, 2023 12:40 PM (9UlRk)
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I suspect it's done like most negotiations: behind closed doors.
However, to just ignore it is to ignore a very real reality of how government works. Implying that someone else will do better has to account for this. The only thing I've seen to imply that someone else will do better is to imply that the someone else will staredown McConnell (or Thune, or Cornyn) in a public fight, which is quite the supposition.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 11, 2023 12:32 PM (LvTSG)
So basically we don't know that is what actually happened, we are just surmising it.
I don't find that to be a plausible, personally.
Trump is the guy that apparently penned something about the art of making deals and in 2016-7 there wasn't much he wouldn't hop up to the bully pulpit for.
I suspect, more likely, is that he knew very little about D.C. and trusted the recommendations of various think-tanks.
Those think-tanks, as it turns out, were infested with would-eventually-be NeverTrumpers and take their marching orders (and funding) from those that weren't in tune with Trump or the interests of the Republic.
Gulliability.
However, to just ignore it is to ignore a very real reality of how government works. Implying that someone else will do better has to account for this. The only thing I've seen to imply that someone else will do better is to imply that the someone else will staredown McConnell (or Thune, or Cornyn) in a public fight, which is quite the supposition.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 11, 2023 12:32 PM (LvTSG)
So basically we don't know that is what actually happened, we are just surmising it.
I don't find that to be a plausible, personally.
Trump is the guy that apparently penned something about the art of making deals and in 2016-7 there wasn't much he wouldn't hop up to the bully pulpit for.
I suspect, more likely, is that he knew very little about D.C. and trusted the recommendations of various think-tanks.
Those think-tanks, as it turns out, were infested with would-eventually-be NeverTrumpers and take their marching orders (and funding) from those that weren't in tune with Trump or the interests of the Republic.
Gulliability.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 11, 2023 12:40 PM (qWW+5)
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I always think back to those conversations I think started with Comey .. about being loyal
Comey seemed to think this meant being loyal to the point of breaking the law, but Trump not being a government lifer probably thought more like being loyal enough to cover my 6 from sneak attacks by making sure I knew what was coming.
Trump or any President doesn't like to be caught off-guard not knowing what was coming his way.
.. on a personal note, I knew a guy in high school who went on to work for the FBI. His job .. watch TV all night long so if a major event broke, he could inform the Director of the FBI all the know particulars immediately. He used to joke how he saw every Tomorrow Show with Tom Synder which ran after Johnny Carson.
Comey seemed to think this meant being loyal to the point of breaking the law, but Trump not being a government lifer probably thought more like being loyal enough to cover my 6 from sneak attacks by making sure I knew what was coming.
Trump or any President doesn't like to be caught off-guard not knowing what was coming his way.
.. on a personal note, I knew a guy in high school who went on to work for the FBI. His job .. watch TV all night long so if a major event broke, he could inform the Director of the FBI all the know particulars immediately. He used to joke how he saw every Tomorrow Show with Tom Synder which ran after Johnny Carson.
Posted by: SMOD at August 11, 2023 12:41 PM (RHGPo)
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Biggest question is what do we do about it?
Posted by: rickb223
Where do we go from here and how did we get into this handbasket?
Posted by: rickb223
Where do we go from here and how did we get into this handbasket?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 11, 2023 12:41 PM (FVME7)
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182 I seem to remember there being a whole lot of support for Bolton here.
The whole "stache" thing......
Hell. Nikki Haley had a lot of backing when she was UN appointee.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 11, 2023 12:39 PM (Zz0t1)
This is very true.
I am still a Fred Thompson man, myself. He has the virtue of not being able to prove me an idiot.
Thompson 2024!
The whole "stache" thing......
Hell. Nikki Haley had a lot of backing when she was UN appointee.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 11, 2023 12:39 PM (Zz0t1)
This is very true.
I am still a Fred Thompson man, myself. He has the virtue of not being able to prove me an idiot.
Thompson 2024!
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 11, 2023 12:41 PM (zZu0s)
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Trunp was hamstrung by MCConnell and the rest of the deep state so he could get anything done or appoint good people.
Also vote for Trump in 2024 so he can totes drain the swamp and destroy the deep state.
Also vote for Trump in 2024 so he can totes drain the swamp and destroy the deep state.
Posted by: Montec at August 11, 2023 12:41 PM (yx8Q1)
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How can the AG forbid congress from investigating?
Posted by: Montec
They can't but the GOPe will roll over and play dead, then 'splain to the voters "But we caaaaaan't do anything, not the hill to die on, only 1/2 of 1/3 HURR-DURRR~!"
Failure Theater forevah~!
Posted by: Montec
They can't but the GOPe will roll over and play dead, then 'splain to the voters "But we caaaaaan't do anything, not the hill to die on, only 1/2 of 1/3 HURR-DURRR~!"
Failure Theater forevah~!
Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 11, 2023 12:41 PM (IG4Id)
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Ace should have known when you throw out criticisms of the Great One the terriers will latch on and not let it go.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at August 11, 2023 12:41 PM (ssESX)
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Has Biden been impeached yet?
Posted by: runner at August 11, 2023 12:17 PM
Not if we can help it.
Posted by: runner at August 11, 2023 12:17 PM
Not if we can help it.
Posted by: Big Penguin at August 11, 2023 12:41 PM (a3Q+t)
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So a bunch of military guys sitting around thinking about violence and used to hearing military-styled intel, and not hearing the police intel, which is actually suited for American urban situations, so they just revert to form. Everyone is a hammer and they are desperate for a nail.
Any nail.
Any mail will do.
Posted by: Diogenes at August 11, 2023 12:35 PM (hv9bm)
I think you mean a bunch of office workers who like to play dress up and award themselves medals for ther actions of others.
That should be another of the next President's goals, start clearing out all these assholes whose only military service wad playing risk, or being driven around an airbase in Germany to get their nightly prostitutes.
Any nail.
Any mail will do.
Posted by: Diogenes at August 11, 2023 12:35 PM (hv9bm)
I think you mean a bunch of office workers who like to play dress up and award themselves medals for ther actions of others.
That should be another of the next President's goals, start clearing out all these assholes whose only military service wad playing risk, or being driven around an airbase in Germany to get their nightly prostitutes.
Posted by: Rbastid at August 11, 2023 12:42 PM (wap8a)
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Arguing about which side of the sail to fart on when the boat's teetering on a sand bar at low tide, and half of it's on fire.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 11, 2023 12:40 PM (9UlRk)
GET THOSE DECK CHAIRS STRAIGHTENED!!!!
Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 11, 2023 12:40 PM (9UlRk)
GET THOSE DECK CHAIRS STRAIGHTENED!!!!
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 11, 2023 12:42 PM (zZu0s)
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If this does shut down the House investigation, they should drop everything they have out now.. Or better yet leak it
Posted by: It's me donna at August 11, 2023 12:42 PM (bs+z0)
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in almost all cases they've plea bargained. If you plead guilty to a lesser charge, it's almost certainly non-appealable.
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Except when the state fails to turn over exculpatory evidence in its possession.....
Why do you think they are fighting so hard to keep all the video secret?
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Except when the state fails to turn over exculpatory evidence in its possession.....
Why do you think they are fighting so hard to keep all the video secret?
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 11, 2023 12:42 PM (hP+39)
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185 179 How can the AG forbid congress from investigating?
Posted by: Montec at August 11, 2023 12:39 PM (yx8Q1)
On going investigation
Posted by: It's me donna at August 11, 2023 12:40 PM (bs+z0)
I’m old enough to remember when one branch of govt couldn’t tell another branch what to do. That's probably a racist white supremacist view of things today.
Posted by: Montec at August 11, 2023 12:39 PM (yx8Q1)
On going investigation
Posted by: It's me donna at August 11, 2023 12:40 PM (bs+z0)
I’m old enough to remember when one branch of govt couldn’t tell another branch what to do. That's probably a racist white supremacist view of things today.
Posted by: Montec at August 11, 2023 12:42 PM (yx8Q1)
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200 If this does shut down the House investigation, they should drop everything they have out now.. Or better yet leak it
Posted by: It's me donna at August 11, 2023 12:42 PM (bs+z0)
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They need to defund the DOJ, and the go home fishing until Merrick Garland dies of old age.
Posted by: It's me donna at August 11, 2023 12:42 PM (bs+z0)
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They need to defund the DOJ, and the go home fishing until Merrick Garland dies of old age.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 11, 2023 12:43 PM (LvTSG)
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Ace should have known when you throw out criticisms of the Great One the terriers will latch on and not let it go.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at August 11, 2023 12:41 PM
No one likes to see Dwayne Johnson criticized.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at August 11, 2023 12:41 PM
No one likes to see Dwayne Johnson criticized.
Posted by: Big Penguin at August 11, 2023 12:43 PM (a3Q+t)
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>>> I seem to remember there being a whole lot of support for Bolton here.
The whole "stache" thing......
you mean from 2001-2013? Yeah, back before the entire Neocon Invade the World Invited the World project blew up and self-discredited, there was support for him.
What justifies Trump still thinking he was the bee's knees in 2017?
The whole "stache" thing......
you mean from 2001-2013? Yeah, back before the entire Neocon Invade the World Invited the World project blew up and self-discredited, there was support for him.
What justifies Trump still thinking he was the bee's knees in 2017?
Posted by: ace at August 11, 2023 12:43 PM (KRtlO)
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193
This is very true.
I am still a Fred Thompson man, myself. He has the virtue of not being able to prove me an idiot.
Thompson 2024!
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 11, 2023 12:41 PM (zZu0s)
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I thought Fred looked more like a leader with a stogie in his mouth than Arnie.
This is very true.
I am still a Fred Thompson man, myself. He has the virtue of not being able to prove me an idiot.
Thompson 2024!
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 11, 2023 12:41 PM (zZu0s)
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I thought Fred looked more like a leader with a stogie in his mouth than Arnie.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at August 11, 2023 12:43 PM (ssESX)
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There is no absolute right to free speech, according to the judge overseeing the upcoming Trump trial. Especially for Donald Trump. Or Emmanuel Goldstein
So does the government have the right to free speech? David French wants to know.
So does the government have the right to free speech? David French wants to know.
Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at August 11, 2023 12:43 PM (HfNu5)
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This is like saying, "You guys are hypocrites, you used to support George W. Bush..."
Yeah, I did. Many years and EVENTS ago.
Yeah, I did. Many years and EVENTS ago.
Posted by: ace at August 11, 2023 12:43 PM (KRtlO)
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Arguing about which side of the sail to fart on when the boat's teetering on a sand bar at low tide, and half of it's on fire.
You do paint a picture.
You do paint a picture.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 11, 2023 12:44 PM (eOEVl)
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Ace should have known when you throw out criticisms of the Great One the terriers will latch on and not let it go.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO
You can criticize him. But you had better prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that your guy can do better.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO
You can criticize him. But you had better prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that your guy can do better.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 11, 2023 12:44 PM (nW4TA)
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"Not only must a possible conspiracy behind the true architects of J6 -- Pelosi, Milley, Miller -- be investigated, to determine if their authorship of the chaos was merely negligent or criminally intended -- but Fox "News" must be made to answer why they decided to censor the news as hard as CNN censored the Hunter Biden laptop story."
This will never happen.
Another thing that will never happen: Trump getting back into the White House. THEY will straight-up JFK him if it even looks possible. The GOP despises Trump even more than the demonrats. He is Not Of The Tribe.
This will never happen.
Another thing that will never happen: Trump getting back into the White House. THEY will straight-up JFK him if it even looks possible. The GOP despises Trump even more than the demonrats. He is Not Of The Tribe.
Posted by: No Shirt Shylock at August 11, 2023 12:44 PM (PWI4f)
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I have some problems with this interview. It does seem like something big here. But the premise is that this was a terrible event that was dangerous and the lives of Congresspersons were at stake and so were my policemen and they didn't tell me that the threat was there.
It gives too much credence to the J6 = Pearl Harbor x 9/11 theory. It does bring out some real questions, questions that Sund will not speculate on - and for his part, sticking to the facts that he knows makes sense. And Tucker wants to avoid lawsuits so he doesn't want to speculate either.
There are LOTS of implications here. Some things that are a LOT hinky. But it plays on the wrong end of the field.
And there was a piece that bothers me more than anything, and that is GEN Milley planning to shut down the capital city of the US because of stuff he read on the internet.
Because the "threats"of burning down the Supreme Court and executing Congressmen and killing Capitol police DID NOT HAPPEN. So it doesn't matter that "intel" didn't get there. The real threats were the agents provocateur who were likely Feds or Fed backed who stirred up the illegal activities.
It gives too much credence to the J6 = Pearl Harbor x 9/11 theory. It does bring out some real questions, questions that Sund will not speculate on - and for his part, sticking to the facts that he knows makes sense. And Tucker wants to avoid lawsuits so he doesn't want to speculate either.
There are LOTS of implications here. Some things that are a LOT hinky. But it plays on the wrong end of the field.
And there was a piece that bothers me more than anything, and that is GEN Milley planning to shut down the capital city of the US because of stuff he read on the internet.
Because the "threats"of burning down the Supreme Court and executing Congressmen and killing Capitol police DID NOT HAPPEN. So it doesn't matter that "intel" didn't get there. The real threats were the agents provocateur who were likely Feds or Fed backed who stirred up the illegal activities.
Posted by: blaster at August 11, 2023 12:44 PM (Jk9SN)
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John Bolton merely had that which trump craves -- a television presence.
Trump likes his Brand Names, even when they're his ideological enemies.
Posted by: ace at August 11, 2023 12:35 PM (KRtlO)
Good point.
Trump likes his Brand Names, even when they're his ideological enemies.
Posted by: ace at August 11, 2023 12:35 PM (KRtlO)
Good point.
Posted by: Ordinary American at August 11, 2023 12:44 PM (PuJDY)
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When everyone around you is an asshole you just may be the asshole. Personally I would have conducted myself like Pompeo if I was in Trump’s Administation and not left in a huff which only emboldens the commie Left.
But even Pompeo when asked relatively recently whether he would support Trump for President he replied ‘ Oh God no ‘ . That should be a huge red flag.
But even Pompeo when asked relatively recently whether he would support Trump for President he replied ‘ Oh God no ‘ . That should be a huge red flag.
Posted by: polynikes at August 11, 2023 12:44 PM (MNhXM)
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What justifies Trump still thinking he was the bee's knees in 2017?
Posted by: ace at August 11, 2023 12:43 PM (KRtlO)
At the time I really liked Bolton.. I was wrong
What justifies Trump still thinking he was the bee's knees in 2017?
Posted by: ace at August 11, 2023 12:43 PM (KRtlO)
At the time I really liked Bolton.. I was wrong
Posted by: It's me donna at August 11, 2023 12:44 PM (bs+z0)
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Was not Mad Dog Mattis given god like worship here by retired military members until he turned out to be of the same DC officers cabal as Milley,etc.
Posted by: Jen the original at August 11, 2023 12:44 PM (I5ZE2)
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Ace should have known when you throw out criticisms of the Great One the terriers will latch on and not let it go.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at August 11, 2023 12:41 PM
What does Mark Levin have to do with any of this?
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at August 11, 2023 12:41 PM
What does Mark Levin have to do with any of this?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 11, 2023 12:45 PM (Zz0t1)
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OBSTRUCTION of CONGRESS: Merrick Garland appoints David Weiss as special counsel to prevent the House from investigating the DOJ’s sweetheart deal with Hunter and his sale of Joe’s influence. The special counsel will block Congressional oversight until after the 2024 election. Posted by: redridinghood at August 11, 2023 12:36 PM (NpAcC)
IIRC, back in the Watergate days Sam Ervin didn't let Leon Jaworski interfere with the Congressional hearings. They went ahead and did it anyway, and it was the hearings that actually disclosed the existence of the taping system, which the Special Counsel didn't know about. Fun fact: It was Fred Thompson, a junior lawyer for the Republican side of the committee, questioning Alexander Butterfield, an Air Force Lieutenant Colonel working communications in the White House, that revealed the tapes.
IIRC, back in the Watergate days Sam Ervin didn't let Leon Jaworski interfere with the Congressional hearings. They went ahead and did it anyway, and it was the hearings that actually disclosed the existence of the taping system, which the Special Counsel didn't know about. Fun fact: It was Fred Thompson, a junior lawyer for the Republican side of the committee, questioning Alexander Butterfield, an Air Force Lieutenant Colonel working communications in the White House, that revealed the tapes.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at August 11, 2023 12:45 PM (7B5FA)
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Trunp was hamstrung by MCConnell and the rest of the deep state so he could get anything done or appoint good people.
Also vote for Trump in 2024 so he can totes drain the swamp and destroy the deep state.
Also: TRUMP! This time it's personal!
Also vote for Trump in 2024 so he can totes drain the swamp and destroy the deep state.
Also: TRUMP! This time it's personal!
Posted by: Archimedes at August 11, 2023 12:45 PM (eOEVl)
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What about the aliens? When are we going to hear more about those guys? You know one time they LANDED A SHIP ON THE ELLIPSE and do you hear anything about that? Nope!
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2023 12:45 PM (RG6z4)
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Merrick Garland ANNOUNCES DAVID WEISS AS SPECIAL COUNSEL IN HUNTER BIDEN CASE
.. bet he still can't ask about "The Big Guy"
.. bet he still can't ask about "The Big Guy"
Posted by: SMOD at August 11, 2023 12:45 PM (RHGPo)
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Go ahead and name someone that did, and do the courtesy of quoting them.
Go on. I'll wait.
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Yes, let's pretend the HQ Archive is a search-friendly environment.
Go on. I'll wait.
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Yes, let's pretend the HQ Archive is a search-friendly environment.
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at August 11, 2023 12:45 PM (krqg6)
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Hell. Nikki Haley had a lot of backing when she was UN appointee.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 11, 2023 12:39 PM (Zz0t1)
While she was ambassador I think Haley did a good job, and did what she was there to do, and what Trump asked of her.
It was afterwards, when she saw a good way to further her career, that she started selling away her morals.
Most of the others used their job during the administration to undermine Trump, and the first time they did so they should have been caned.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 11, 2023 12:39 PM (Zz0t1)
While she was ambassador I think Haley did a good job, and did what she was there to do, and what Trump asked of her.
It was afterwards, when she saw a good way to further her career, that she started selling away her morals.
Most of the others used their job during the administration to undermine Trump, and the first time they did so they should have been caned.
Posted by: Rbastid at August 11, 2023 12:45 PM (wap8a)
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*canned, though i guess the other works too
Posted by: Rbastid at August 11, 2023 12:45 PM (wap8a)
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Arguing about which side of the sail to fart on when the boat's teetering on a sand bar at low tide, and half of it's on fire.
You do paint a picture.
Posted by: Archimedes
Gee, Mr. Taggart, ...
You do paint a picture.
Posted by: Archimedes
Gee, Mr. Taggart, ...
Posted by: rickb223 at August 11, 2023 12:45 PM (nW4TA)
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There is a simple 4th explanation ...
The pool of available talent is God-awful thin
Posted by: SMOD
I think that goes along with what Darth Chipmunk said at comment "143". There's a lot of ruin in a country, and we are on the path to find out just how much.
It's easy, in retrospect, to mock a lot of Trump appointments, but in 2017, we were not nearly as aware of just how muddy was the Swamp, how deep was the Deep State, how committed they were to undermining Donald Trump as President.
Even now, I think some don't realize just how sinister our government really is, although obviously a lot of people now do.
The pool of available talent is God-awful thin
Posted by: SMOD
I think that goes along with what Darth Chipmunk said at comment "143". There's a lot of ruin in a country, and we are on the path to find out just how much.
It's easy, in retrospect, to mock a lot of Trump appointments, but in 2017, we were not nearly as aware of just how muddy was the Swamp, how deep was the Deep State, how committed they were to undermining Donald Trump as President.
Even now, I think some don't realize just how sinister our government really is, although obviously a lot of people now do.
Posted by: Barnacle Bill the sailor at August 11, 2023 12:46 PM (vcOmj)
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The fact that immediately as the riots were happening all the usual mouthpieces of the Democratic Party/Media were using the exact same talking points, makes it highly likely dem higher ups, and some republican ones too, totally anticipated this would happen and were prepared to exploit it for political gain.
Posted by: Serious Cat at August 11, 2023 12:46 PM (TaHi/)
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Was not Mad Dog Mattis given god like worship here by retired military members until he turned out to be of the same DC officers cabal as Milley,etc. Posted by: Jen the original at August 11, 2023 12:44 PM (I5ZE2)
Perhaps by some. For the rest of us, Mattis appeared to be a whole lot of show and not much go.
Perhaps by some. For the rest of us, Mattis appeared to be a whole lot of show and not much go.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at August 11, 2023 12:46 PM (7B5FA)
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Fox News reporting David Weiss to be appointed SC to investigate Biden Family Funds.
DOJ, where Democratic treason goes to be buried.
DOJ, where Democratic treason goes to be buried.
Posted by: Scott_T at August 11, 2023 12:46 PM (2waQ7)
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You can criticize him. But you had better prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that your guy can do better.
That's terribly decent of you to allow us to criticize him. Of course we'll let you set the rules.
That's terribly decent of you to allow us to criticize him. Of course we'll let you set the rules.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 11, 2023 12:46 PM (eOEVl)
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Most of the others used their job during the administration to undermine Trump, and the first time they did so they should have been caned.
Posted by: Rbastid
I'm pro caning, too.
Posted by: Rbastid
I'm pro caning, too.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 11, 2023 12:46 PM (TZ75n)
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The House has already announced it is investigating the entire criminal Biden family
Posted by: SMOD at August 11, 2023 12:47 PM (RHGPo)
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I've deleted the "Trump's picks" line, not because it's not completely true (it is) but because this post is not supposed to be about that, and I made it about that.
Posted by: ace at August 11, 2023 12:32 PM (KRtlO)
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Too fucking late!!!
I guess you made a bad pick too?
Posted by: ace at August 11, 2023 12:32 PM (KRtlO)
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Too fucking late!!!
I guess you made a bad pick too?
Posted by: rd at August 11, 2023 12:47 PM (hhb1F)
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What about the aliens? When are we going to hear more about those guys? You know one time they LANDED A SHIP ON THE ELLIPSE and do you hear anything about that? Nope!
Posted by: Weasel
STOP THE PLANE! STOP THE PLANE!
That m-f'er ain't real.
Posted by: Weasel
STOP THE PLANE! STOP THE PLANE!
That m-f'er ain't real.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 11, 2023 12:47 PM (nW4TA)
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the first time they did so they should have been caned.
Posted by: Rbastid at August 11, 2023 12:45 PM (wap8a)
Singapore-style!
Posted by: Rbastid at August 11, 2023 12:45 PM (wap8a)
Singapore-style!
Posted by: spindrift at August 11, 2023 12:47 PM (FRu7m)
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Was not Mad Dog Mattis given god like worship here by retired military members until he turned out to be of the same DC officers cabal as Milley,etc.
Posted by: Jen the original at August 11, 2023 12:44 PM (I5ZE2)
It was that way with many of Trump's picks early on.
There weren't many that were able to foreshadow that Trump would have more back stabbing greedy f*cktard assholes around him in every aspect of everything. But he should've and should've been smarter than that and should've known that literally everyone around him would stab him repeatedly.
Posted by: Jen the original at August 11, 2023 12:44 PM (I5ZE2)
It was that way with many of Trump's picks early on.
There weren't many that were able to foreshadow that Trump would have more back stabbing greedy f*cktard assholes around him in every aspect of everything. But he should've and should've been smarter than that and should've known that literally everyone around him would stab him repeatedly.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 11, 2023 12:47 PM (Zz0t1)
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If this does shut down the House investigation, they should drop everything they have out now.. Or better yet leak it
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Remember when Trey Gowdyn and all R members of the Intelligence Committee went to the House floor in February of 2017 under the absolute immunity granted by the Constitution and stated that the sworn testimony of Democrat witnesses admitted there was no Russia collusion?
Oh. Wait. No he didn't. That worthless shitstain sat on that fact and STILL won't admit it was all a sham.
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Remember when Trey Gowdyn and all R members of the Intelligence Committee went to the House floor in February of 2017 under the absolute immunity granted by the Constitution and stated that the sworn testimony of Democrat witnesses admitted there was no Russia collusion?
Oh. Wait. No he didn't. That worthless shitstain sat on that fact and STILL won't admit it was all a sham.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 11, 2023 12:47 PM (hP+39)
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Especially the sorts of malignant incompetents such as these. Heckuva job in Afghanistan, Milley.
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You make it sound as if his actions weren't intentional and deliberate.
The humiliation is part of the kink.
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You make it sound as if his actions weren't intentional and deliberate.
The humiliation is part of the kink.
Posted by: ShainS -- Chief 'Misinformation' Researcher at AoSHQ at August 11, 2023 12:47 PM (6VKyY)
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Two motions to de-certify electors were about to be made.
Minutes before the initial break-in Pence, Bitch, and Pelosi leave the Capitol chambers and the session was closed. Later that day congress re-convenes under emergency rules - new rules - that specifically disallow motions to de-certify among other things. Mike Pence the opens all certificates(he did not have to do this per article 2) and congress and the VP certify all electors.
See how that works? The back plan to interrupt the session were the RNC and DNC pipe (non)bombs.
Minutes before the initial break-in Pence, Bitch, and Pelosi leave the Capitol chambers and the session was closed. Later that day congress re-convenes under emergency rules - new rules - that specifically disallow motions to de-certify among other things. Mike Pence the opens all certificates(he did not have to do this per article 2) and congress and the VP certify all electors.
See how that works? The back plan to interrupt the session were the RNC and DNC pipe (non)bombs.
Posted by: Danimal28 at August 11, 2023 12:47 PM (klw0w)
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You can criticize him. But you had better prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that your guy can do better.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 11, 2023 12:44 PM (nW4TA)
Ditching a guy who won the presidency against Clinton Inc and then got historic totals in his re-election bid seems silly.
Even assuming the elections were legit.
It just sounds like crazy talk to me.
Whatever one thinks of his abilities.
"I hate our historically best-selling product! Hate it! We're gonna discontinue it and do something else because I like it better."
Posted by: rickb223 at August 11, 2023 12:44 PM (nW4TA)
Ditching a guy who won the presidency against Clinton Inc and then got historic totals in his re-election bid seems silly.
Even assuming the elections were legit.
It just sounds like crazy talk to me.
Whatever one thinks of his abilities.
"I hate our historically best-selling product! Hate it! We're gonna discontinue it and do something else because I like it better."
Posted by: Thesokorus at August 11, 2023 12:47 PM (X1EMB)
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Atheist C Cupp helps out the Christians.
CNN Opinion
@CNNOpinion
In the latest episode of "Unfiltered," @secupp argues that the right's infatuation with "wokeism" and so-called culture wars, driven largely by former President Donald Trump, has not only infected conservatism but Christianity too.
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It's like Jesus said in the Sermon On the Mount, "Blessed are the woke for they shall tax and you shall pay."
CNN Opinion
@CNNOpinion
In the latest episode of "Unfiltered," @secupp argues that the right's infatuation with "wokeism" and so-called culture wars, driven largely by former President Donald Trump, has not only infected conservatism but Christianity too.
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It's like Jesus said in the Sermon On the Mount, "Blessed are the woke for they shall tax and you shall pay."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 11, 2023 12:47 PM (FVME7)
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David Weiss is named Special Counsel in Hunter Biden probe.
Posted by: redridinghood
Wow, I thought they'd assign Mueller...
Posted by: redridinghood
Wow, I thought they'd assign Mueller...
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 11, 2023 12:47 PM (jq39B)
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Didn't Ray Epps file suit against Tucker Carlson and Fox news saying he would be indicted?
Is he still walking around free? Wonder what ever happened to that indictment.
Is he still walking around free? Wonder what ever happened to that indictment.
Posted by: KJP is a race and gender swapped Side Show Bob at August 11, 2023 12:48 PM (QpUKb)
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I still support what the Bush administration did at the time even if I have written a couple of ‘ fuck you I’m done with you’ letters to the Bush foundations since.
Posted by: polynikes at August 11, 2023 12:48 PM (MNhXM)
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Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at August 11, 2023 12:45 PM (krqg6)
LMFAO.
Yes, let's pretend the HQ Archive is a search-friendly environment.
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at August 11, 2023 12:45 PM (krqg6)
LMFAO.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 11, 2023 12:48 PM (Zz0t1)
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>>>You can criticize him. But you had better prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that your guy can do better.
DeSantis' pick for head of Florida's health services declared that the covid vaccines were unsafe for children and that there was no medical necessity of the vax.
he didn't, you know, create the predicate for mayors in florida to declare a vaccine mandate.
I don't see any of DeSantis' picks going rogue and undermining his agenda. They all seem to advance the agenda, almost like he's an in-charge executive who keeps an eye on his subordinates and also knows enough to know who is with him and who is against him.
DeSantis' pick for head of Florida's health services declared that the covid vaccines were unsafe for children and that there was no medical necessity of the vax.
he didn't, you know, create the predicate for mayors in florida to declare a vaccine mandate.
I don't see any of DeSantis' picks going rogue and undermining his agenda. They all seem to advance the agenda, almost like he's an in-charge executive who keeps an eye on his subordinates and also knows enough to know who is with him and who is against him.
Posted by: ace at August 11, 2023 12:48 PM (KRtlO)
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Go ahead and name someone that did, and do the courtesy of quoting them.
Go on. I'll wait.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 11, 2023 12:34 PM (IG4Id)
Sure I'll go run and search the impossible archives for you because you're such a pal.
Why don't you just "wait" with me for it to happen again? I'm happy to do so. It's not like up and coming Republicans who seem legit and trustworthy don't screw us every other few months.
Go on. I'll wait.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 11, 2023 12:34 PM (IG4Id)
Sure I'll go run and search the impossible archives for you because you're such a pal.
Why don't you just "wait" with me for it to happen again? I'm happy to do so. It's not like up and coming Republicans who seem legit and trustworthy don't screw us every other few months.
Posted by: ... at August 11, 2023 12:48 PM (QSXi6)
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Do not forget, those of you who complain that Trump has a terrible "trust radar", many of you fought tooth and nail to defend Barr, Cruz, Haley, Noem, and now some other people who haven't earned any more trust from you than those who had earned trust from Trump.
Posted by: ...
Again, I'm not the one saying I'm the best, nay, the ONLY one who can rescue the Republic. When I do, you'll have a point.
Posted by: ...
Again, I'm not the one saying I'm the best, nay, the ONLY one who can rescue the Republic. When I do, you'll have a point.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 11, 2023 12:48 PM (eOEVl)
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>>>Nothing bad is ever Trump’s fault according to you guys. Though everything good that happened was because of Trump and only he could have done it.
I have noticed that this paradigm holds great sway among some.
Posted by: ace
Point taken, but what you are failing to take into account is that more good was accomplished than since Reagan, and it was done with the most insubordination in the history of the country.
I have noticed that this paradigm holds great sway among some.
Posted by: ace
Point taken, but what you are failing to take into account is that more good was accomplished than since Reagan, and it was done with the most insubordination in the history of the country.
Posted by: db at August 11, 2023 12:48 PM (wu87C)
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226 It's easy, in retrospect, to mock a lot of Trump appointments, but in 2017, we were not nearly as aware of just how muddy was the Swamp, how deep was the Deep State, how committed they were to undermining Donald Trump as President.
Even now, I think some don't realize just how sinister our government really is, although obviously a lot of people now do.
Posted by: Barnacle Bill the sailor at August 11, 2023 12:46 PM (vcOmj)
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Ace has a story about how a Trump friendly guy was denied a job in the new Trump administration because the GOPe guys were so infested in the lower to mid levels of management that no one Trump friendly could get in.
Essentially, the RNC and the rest of the formal Republican establishment needs...replacement.
That's a ground up proposition. Trump promised too much, and I simply don't see how Trumpism without Trump manages that same issue with any success. Either we continue recrafting the Republican Party for decades to come, taking over the apparatus already standing, or we let it fall apart and build something new.
Even now, I think some don't realize just how sinister our government really is, although obviously a lot of people now do.
Posted by: Barnacle Bill the sailor at August 11, 2023 12:46 PM (vcOmj)
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Ace has a story about how a Trump friendly guy was denied a job in the new Trump administration because the GOPe guys were so infested in the lower to mid levels of management that no one Trump friendly could get in.
Essentially, the RNC and the rest of the formal Republican establishment needs...replacement.
That's a ground up proposition. Trump promised too much, and I simply don't see how Trumpism without Trump manages that same issue with any success. Either we continue recrafting the Republican Party for decades to come, taking over the apparatus already standing, or we let it fall apart and build something new.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 11, 2023 12:48 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 11, 2023 12:48 PM (KbCG3)
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97 Howdy, fellow right wingers! Ida been here sooner but Is out rustlin up some grub.
Posted by: Mike Pence at August 11, 2023 12:26 PM (u73oe)
I can't wait for you to "go'in get you a beer."
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 11, 2023 12:27 PM
"I just love this," (covertly glances at bottle to ascertain name) "Bud Light I'm drinking! It's my favorite, and I've heard a lot about it in the news recently, so I know America does, too!"
Posted by: Mike Pence at August 11, 2023 12:26 PM (u73oe)
I can't wait for you to "go'in get you a beer."
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 11, 2023 12:27 PM
"I just love this," (covertly glances at bottle to ascertain name) "Bud Light I'm drinking! It's my favorite, and I've heard a lot about it in the news recently, so I know America does, too!"
Posted by: Mike Pence at August 11, 2023 12:48 PM (J9XzG)
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Well, it's too bad this is the one op they managed not to fuck up. If this thing went sideways as badly as they usually do, the Capitol would have fallen, Senators would be swinging in the breeze, and we'd be sorting out how to rebuild this broken country.
Instead, it went as planned, for once, and we're stuck with this shit for the long haul.
Instead, it went as planned, for once, and we're stuck with this shit for the long haul.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 11, 2023 12:48 PM (0FoWg)
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Perhaps by some. For the rest of us, Mattis appeared to be a whole lot of show and not much go.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at August 11, 2023 12:46 PM (7B5FA)
The Horde has been hornswoggled, too. We used to like Cheney, and Bolton.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at August 11, 2023 12:46 PM (7B5FA)
The Horde has been hornswoggled, too. We used to like Cheney, and Bolton.
Posted by: blaster at August 11, 2023 12:48 PM (Jk9SN)
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But even Pompeo when asked relatively recently whether he would support Trump for President he replied ‘ Oh God no ‘ . That should be a huge red flag.
Posted by: polynikes
That was really a bad thing for Pompeo to say, but I think it is also a measure of the overall political cowardice of the age. I think Pompeo liked (and still likes) Trump, but he feels he has to denounce Trump, to maintain his own political viability.
And that political cowardice by many is to a large degree why we are in the mess we are in now.
Find 10 honest men and women in DC. And.....you can't.
Posted by: polynikes
That was really a bad thing for Pompeo to say, but I think it is also a measure of the overall political cowardice of the age. I think Pompeo liked (and still likes) Trump, but he feels he has to denounce Trump, to maintain his own political viability.
And that political cowardice by many is to a large degree why we are in the mess we are in now.
Find 10 honest men and women in DC. And.....you can't.
Posted by: Barnacle Bill the sailor at August 11, 2023 12:48 PM (vcOmj)
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They are covering or removing all evidence that supports this including the J6 committee stuff and Capitol footage.
Posted by: Danimal28 at August 11, 2023 12:49 PM (klw0w)
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On the personnel front, most significant picks Trump made were from the DC-NYC elite or lifelong politicians. There was DeVos and Carson but those are secondary positions. The A-level stuff , AG, State, Chief of Staff, etc all came from people who spent decades in NYC/DC. Why was there nobody from Wyoming or Oklahoma selected? And don’t tell me because MCConnell wouldn’t have confirmed them. That’s a total bullshit excuse. The reason is because people from Wyoming Oklahoma aren’t the cool kids and Trump only likes to hang with the cool beautiful people.
Posted by: Montec at August 11, 2023 12:49 PM (yx8Q1)
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"I hate our historically best-selling product! Hate it! We're gonna discontinue it and do something else because I like it better."
Posted by: Thesokorus at August 11, 2023 12:47 PM (X1EMB)
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Otherwise known as the Bud Light strategy...
Posted by: Thesokorus at August 11, 2023 12:47 PM (X1EMB)
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Otherwise known as the Bud Light strategy...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 11, 2023 12:49 PM (YIVH2)
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Deutsch Warns MSNBC’s ‘Morning Joe’ May Cease to Exist if Trump Elected in 2024
.. they don't need to convince me
.. they don't need to convince me
Posted by: SMOD at August 11, 2023 12:49 PM (RHGPo)
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Yes, let's pretend the HQ Archive is a search-friendly environment.
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at August 11, 2023 12:45 PM (krqg6)
You see this, people?
THIS is the definition of a true pal.
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at August 11, 2023 12:45 PM (krqg6)
You see this, people?
THIS is the definition of a true pal.
Posted by: ... at August 11, 2023 12:49 PM (QSXi6)
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Impeach Garland!
Posted by: runner at August 11, 2023 12:49 PM (haV5y)
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216 Was not Mad Dog Mattis given god like worship here by retired military members until he turned out to be of the same DC officers cabal as Milley,etc.
Posted by: Jen the original at August 11, 2023 12:44 PM (I5ZE2)
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Maybe he earned the nickname while a junior officer after being denied seconds at a buffet? 😁 Milley was never denied (and he is actually "mad" as in off his rocker).
Posted by: Jen the original at August 11, 2023 12:44 PM (I5ZE2)
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Maybe he earned the nickname while a junior officer after being denied seconds at a buffet? 😁 Milley was never denied (and he is actually "mad" as in off his rocker).
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at August 11, 2023 12:49 PM (ssESX)
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Except when the state fails to turn over exculpatory evidence in its possession..... Why do you think they are fighting so hard to keep all the video secret? Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 11, 2023 12:42 PM (hP+39)
Yeah, but you have to go back to the DC District Court. A normal judge would be PO'ed that the government suppressed evidence, but those judges would high five the prosecutors.
Yeah, but you have to go back to the DC District Court. A normal judge would be PO'ed that the government suppressed evidence, but those judges would high five the prosecutors.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at August 11, 2023 12:49 PM (7B5FA)
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@CNNOpinion
In the latest episode of "Unfiltered," @secupp argues that the right's infatuation with "wokeism" and so-called culture wars, driven largely by former President Donald Trump, has not only infected conservatism but Christianity too.
Oh just shut up and do porn already.........twat.
In the latest episode of "Unfiltered," @secupp argues that the right's infatuation with "wokeism" and so-called culture wars, driven largely by former President Donald Trump, has not only infected conservatism but Christianity too.
Oh just shut up and do porn already.........twat.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 11, 2023 12:49 PM (Zz0t1)
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Here's a different take
What if Trump decided not to run? What if he used his considerable influence to work on fair elections? To boost DeSantis as his heir apparent? He supported him in the governor's race. To back off the mean tweets, childish insults and talk serious policy positions in support of conservative values. His legacy would be considerably different. Then the things he accomplished would be at the forefront instead of his personnel failures. He would be in a position to be pardoned by the Republican who wins the White House making all the cases against him go away.
This is his greatest failure and it is duw to his impossible ego and his need for revenge. Yes he was wronged but he has gone about clearing his name in the wrong way and in the process has only hardened the forces that caused his election loss.
What if Trump decided not to run? What if he used his considerable influence to work on fair elections? To boost DeSantis as his heir apparent? He supported him in the governor's race. To back off the mean tweets, childish insults and talk serious policy positions in support of conservative values. His legacy would be considerably different. Then the things he accomplished would be at the forefront instead of his personnel failures. He would be in a position to be pardoned by the Republican who wins the White House making all the cases against him go away.
This is his greatest failure and it is duw to his impossible ego and his need for revenge. Yes he was wronged but he has gone about clearing his name in the wrong way and in the process has only hardened the forces that caused his election loss.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 11, 2023 12:50 PM (t/2Uw)
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NOW, Everybody knows that the piss-dosia was a complete fabrication and everybody knows that everybody (as in both 'sides' of The Party) always knew that, participated in it, and obstructed Trump the entire way...
This why it is funny, when you really think about it, that Trump brought this on himself.
This why it is funny, when you really think about it, that Trump brought this on himself.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at August 11, 2023 12:50 PM (ga8qR)
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Find 10 honest men and women in DC. And.....you can't.
Posted by: Barnacle Bill the sailor at August 11, 2023 12:48 PM (vcOmj)
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Sodom and Gomorrah were also lacking in righteous men.
Posted by: Barnacle Bill the sailor at August 11, 2023 12:48 PM (vcOmj)
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Sodom and Gomorrah were also lacking in righteous men.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 11, 2023 12:50 PM (YIVH2)
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220 What about the aliens? When are we going to hear more about those guys? You know one time they LANDED A SHIP ON THE ELLIPSE and do you hear anything about that? Nope!
ack ack ACK ACK ACKACK ack ack ACK ACK ACK
*makes international sign of the doughnut*
ack ack ACK ACK ACKACK ack ack ACK ACK ACK
*makes international sign of the doughnut*
Posted by: ack at August 11, 2023 12:51 PM (oY6Yp)
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A Special Counsel to investigate Hunter is another delaying tactic! It keeps him away from the Grassley and Comer Committees, that's all.
Desperation, pure and simple.
Desperation, pure and simple.
Posted by: Now, that's unquestionably fair! at August 11, 2023 12:51 PM (5yag5)
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What about the aliens? When are we going to hear more about those guys? You know one time they LANDED A SHIP ON THE ELLIPSE and do you hear anything about that? Nope!
Posted by: Weasel
Dude, you need to spend more time at the farm.
Posted by: Weasel
Dude, you need to spend more time at the farm.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 11, 2023 12:51 PM (Xrfse)
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DeSantis' pick for head of Florida's health services declared that the covid vaccines were unsafe for children and that there was no medical necessity of the vax.
he didn't, you know, create the predicate for mayors in florida to declare a vaccine mandate.
I don't see any of DeSantis' picks going rogue and undermining his agenda. They all seem to advance the agenda, almost like he's an in-charge executive who keeps an eye on his subordinates and also knows enough to know who is with him and who is against him.
Posted by: ace
But DC will be the same as a cooperative Florida legislature. Seriously?
he didn't, you know, create the predicate for mayors in florida to declare a vaccine mandate.
I don't see any of DeSantis' picks going rogue and undermining his agenda. They all seem to advance the agenda, almost like he's an in-charge executive who keeps an eye on his subordinates and also knows enough to know who is with him and who is against him.
Posted by: ace
But DC will be the same as a cooperative Florida legislature. Seriously?
Posted by: rickb223 at August 11, 2023 12:51 PM (nW4TA)
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>>>"I hate our historically best-selling product! Hate it!
you guys just refuse to look at the vote totals in the three elections since 2016. Refuse, Refuse, Refuse. I always mock the neocons for thinking it's still 2003. But for a lot of Trump supporters, it will always be November 8, 2016, when we could all pretend that we're gonna win so much we'll get sick of winning.
I don't know what it will take to get you guys to admit we've been LOSING A fuck-ton since November 8, 2016.
you guys just refuse to look at the vote totals in the three elections since 2016. Refuse, Refuse, Refuse. I always mock the neocons for thinking it's still 2003. But for a lot of Trump supporters, it will always be November 8, 2016, when we could all pretend that we're gonna win so much we'll get sick of winning.
I don't know what it will take to get you guys to admit we've been LOSING A fuck-ton since November 8, 2016.
Posted by: ace at August 11, 2023 12:51 PM (KRtlO)
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Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 11, 2023 12:50 PM (t/2Uw)
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Sensible, true and highly impropable.
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Sensible, true and highly impropable.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 11, 2023 12:51 PM (qWW+5)
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188 I have to admit that I find this back and forth regarding Trump darkly dorkly amusing.
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Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at August 11, 2023 12:51 PM (krqg6)
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Hunter Special Counsel Bullsh!t -
Garland again breaks the Special Counsel regulations by appointing a FedGov employee to be a Special Counsel.
Under the Speical Counsel regulations, Garland officially has control of the whole shebang. Weiss now has to get Garland's OK the file any indictments, and he can call Weiss in at any time to report status of his work.
The FIX is fortified.
Garland again breaks the Special Counsel regulations by appointing a FedGov employee to be a Special Counsel.
Under the Speical Counsel regulations, Garland officially has control of the whole shebang. Weiss now has to get Garland's OK the file any indictments, and he can call Weiss in at any time to report status of his work.
The FIX is fortified.
Posted by: Gref at August 11, 2023 12:51 PM (AMIL/)
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@blaster, Mattis's press was way too good. That always smacked to me of a PR campaign by Mattis's entourage.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at August 11, 2023 12:51 PM (7B5FA)
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Perhaps by some. For the rest of us, Mattis appeared to be a whole lot of show and not much go.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at August 11, 2023 12:46 PM (7B5FA)
I made my criticisms at the time but it was Trump’s prerogative to pick who he wants. I was even more critical of the Flynn pick.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at August 11, 2023 12:46 PM (7B5FA)
I made my criticisms at the time but it was Trump’s prerogative to pick who he wants. I was even more critical of the Flynn pick.
Posted by: polynikes at August 11, 2023 12:51 PM (MNhXM)
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261 Impeach Garland!
Posted by: runner at August 11, 2023 12:49 PM (haV5y)
That should have happened two years ago and certainly after the reach of the illegal surveillance became public knowledge but the GOP thunder cucks in Congress are rank cowards. The special prosecutor just appointed is to give the GOP thunder cucks cover not to impeach Biden or Garland.
Posted by: runner at August 11, 2023 12:49 PM (haV5y)
That should have happened two years ago and certainly after the reach of the illegal surveillance became public knowledge but the GOP thunder cucks in Congress are rank cowards. The special prosecutor just appointed is to give the GOP thunder cucks cover not to impeach Biden or Garland.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at August 11, 2023 12:52 PM (KSNKu)
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Again, I'm not the one saying I'm the best, nay, the ONLY one who can rescue the Republic. When I do, you'll have a point.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 11, 2023 12:48 PM (eOEVl)
No one is rescuing this former Republic.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 11, 2023 12:48 PM (eOEVl)
No one is rescuing this former Republic.
Posted by: ... at August 11, 2023 12:52 PM (QSXi6)
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259 Deutsch Warns MSNBC’s ‘Morning Joe’ May Cease to Exist if Trump Elected in 2024
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Lol.
If trump wins msnbc ratings will increase 500% like last time.
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Lol.
If trump wins msnbc ratings will increase 500% like last time.
Posted by: Montec at August 11, 2023 12:52 PM (yx8Q1)
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at August 11, 2023 12:53 PM (krqg6)
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There were no long term Trump policies that survived Trump's administration. Ok , there was that Tax cut... but it's not a policy. We are still living with Obamacare... and DHS. See what I mean?
Posted by: runner at August 11, 2023 12:53 PM (haV5y)
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Sodom and Gomorrah were also lacking in righteous men. Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 11, 2023 12:50 PM (YIVH2)
Wonder what they did in Gomorrah?
https://youtu.be/cuKNQamDtnE
Wonder what they did in Gomorrah?
https://youtu.be/cuKNQamDtnE
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at August 11, 2023 12:53 PM (7B5FA)
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160 @amuse
OBSTRUCTION of CONGRESS: Merrick Garland appoints David Weiss as special counsel to prevent the House from investigating the DOJ’s sweetheart deal with Hunter and his sale of Joe’s influence. The special counsel will block Congressional oversight until after the 2024 election.
Posted by: redridinghood
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Not applicable in an impeachment inquiry btw.
OBSTRUCTION of CONGRESS: Merrick Garland appoints David Weiss as special counsel to prevent the House from investigating the DOJ’s sweetheart deal with Hunter and his sale of Joe’s influence. The special counsel will block Congressional oversight until after the 2024 election.
Posted by: redridinghood
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Not applicable in an impeachment inquiry btw.
Posted by: whig at August 11, 2023 12:53 PM (V+/H3)
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I'm not convinced that Pelosi, Milley, and Miller schemed to make this happen just to destroy MAGA. I'm still skeptical that people scheme so ruthlessly and diabolically, and further doubt they even have the ability to execute such plans.
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Counterpoint: And yet they are speaker of house, sec Def, and joint chiefs chairman. They have demonstrated sufficient acumen to get where they got.No?
As appalling as it is, we have to face it.
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Counterpoint: And yet they are speaker of house, sec Def, and joint chiefs chairman. They have demonstrated sufficient acumen to get where they got.No?
As appalling as it is, we have to face it.
Posted by: Simplemind at August 11, 2023 12:53 PM (aMvxn)
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Was not Mad Dog Mattis given god like worship here by retired military members until he turned out to be of the same DC officers cabal as Milley,etc.
Posted by: Jen the original at August 11, 2023 12:44 PM (I5ZE2)
He seemed to get a lot of support from actual soliders, but the two things you point out don't need to be mutually exclusive.
The guy could be a great general who stands up for his troops and also someone whose entrenched in DC politics and is looking for an angle for everything.
Just because he didn't end up being someone who d'Italia Trump around like he was a god, doesn't mean he wasn't everything those soldiers thought him to be.
He certainly wasn't anything like Miley, who is a soldier in name only, whose whole career has been fluffing other political officers until he got the next job in line.
Posted by: Jen the original at August 11, 2023 12:44 PM (I5ZE2)
He seemed to get a lot of support from actual soliders, but the two things you point out don't need to be mutually exclusive.
The guy could be a great general who stands up for his troops and also someone whose entrenched in DC politics and is looking for an angle for everything.
Just because he didn't end up being someone who d'Italia Trump around like he was a god, doesn't mean he wasn't everything those soldiers thought him to be.
He certainly wasn't anything like Miley, who is a soldier in name only, whose whole career has been fluffing other political officers until he got the next job in line.
Posted by: Rbastid at August 11, 2023 12:53 PM (ZlDJu)
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The weekend is coming
Posted by: Skip at August 11, 2023 12:53 PM (FJUxs)
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Unless they take Trump out, legally or physically, he’s going to be the nominee.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 11, 2023 12:53 PM (u73oe)
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I gave you two example, one D and one R
Posted by: runner at August 11, 2023 12:53 PM (haV5y)
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282 There were no long term Trump policies that survived Trump's administration. Ok , there was that Tax cut... but it's not a policy. We are still living with Obamacare... and DHS. See what I mean?
Posted by: runner at August 11, 2023 12:53 PM (haV5y)
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Congress had a say in that temporary state of policy.
Posted by: runner at August 11, 2023 12:53 PM (haV5y)
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Congress had a say in that temporary state of policy.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 11, 2023 12:54 PM (LvTSG)
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I stand behind Nobody For President.
The Presidency itself is broken, and there's not a human born on earth who could do either good or well in that job. Some piece of shit will get their pear-shaped ass crammed into that square hole, though, and whoever it is will not in any way be conditioned by what any unwashed peasant "voter" has to say in the matter.
So instead of playing along with their stupid bullshit yell-at-the-TV and text in your vote NOW Celebrity Executive show, make it official that you refuse to abide. Write in your own name. Write in your neighbor's name. Vote for some goofball with the Legalize Dwarf Tossing party. Whatever. Fuck it. Just stop playing along with the fiction that any of this matters, and that The Right Guy is gonna swoop in and fix everything without applying copious amounts of type delete.
The Presidency itself is broken, and there's not a human born on earth who could do either good or well in that job. Some piece of shit will get their pear-shaped ass crammed into that square hole, though, and whoever it is will not in any way be conditioned by what any unwashed peasant "voter" has to say in the matter.
So instead of playing along with their stupid bullshit yell-at-the-TV and text in your vote NOW Celebrity Executive show, make it official that you refuse to abide. Write in your own name. Write in your neighbor's name. Vote for some goofball with the Legalize Dwarf Tossing party. Whatever. Fuck it. Just stop playing along with the fiction that any of this matters, and that The Right Guy is gonna swoop in and fix everything without applying copious amounts of type delete.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 11, 2023 12:54 PM (9UlRk)
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evil: "fake news is the enemy or the people"
righteous: "we must stop the spread of misinformation"
also, garland now naming a special counsel to deal with hunter biden sounds like a flaming skull moment to me.
righteous: "we must stop the spread of misinformation"
also, garland now naming a special counsel to deal with hunter biden sounds like a flaming skull moment to me.
Posted by: gnats local 678 at August 11, 2023 12:54 PM (B1FKF)
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This is very true.
I am still a Fred Thompson man, myself. He has the virtue of not being able to prove me an idiot.
Thompson 2024!
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 11, 2023 12:41 PM (zZu0s)
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Out: Better Dead Than Red!
In: Better Fred Than Dead!
I am still a Fred Thompson man, myself. He has the virtue of not being able to prove me an idiot.
Thompson 2024!
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 11, 2023 12:41 PM (zZu0s)
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Out: Better Dead Than Red!
In: Better Fred Than Dead!
Posted by: ShainS -- Chief 'Misinformation' Researcher at AoSHQ at August 11, 2023 12:54 PM (6VKyY)
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Michigan State Senator Ruth Johnson, who is a former Secretary of State, told the Gateway Pundit:
“My estimate is over 800,000 ballot applications were sent to non-qualified voters in Michigan, including many individuals who moved or died, and even some individuals who were underage or non-citizens. Many were sent to people who had moved out of state.”
“My estimate is over 800,000 ballot applications were sent to non-qualified voters in Michigan, including many individuals who moved or died, and even some individuals who were underage or non-citizens. Many were sent to people who had moved out of state.”
Posted by: rhennigantx at August 11, 2023 12:54 PM (BRHaw)
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you guys just refuse to look at the vote totals in the three elections since 2016. Refuse, Refuse, Refuse. I always mock the neocons for thinking it's still 2003. But for a lot of Trump supporters, it will always be November 8, 2016, when we could all pretend that we're gonna win so much we'll get sick of winning.
I don't know what it will take to get you guys to admit we've been LOSING A fuck-ton since November 8, 2016.
Posted by: ace at August 11, 2023 12:51 PM (KRtlO)
Honestly, though, what have we lost? Without people willing to act against the machine, all you're left with is, "Do you want it faster or slower?"
I don't know what it will take to get you guys to admit we've been LOSING A fuck-ton since November 8, 2016.
Posted by: ace at August 11, 2023 12:51 PM (KRtlO)
Honestly, though, what have we lost? Without people willing to act against the machine, all you're left with is, "Do you want it faster or slower?"
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 11, 2023 12:54 PM (KbCG3)
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Merrick Garland just appointed the same snake, David Weiss, who gave Hunter that sweetheart deal, to be Special Counsel investigating Hunter.
Also, not legal, as a Special Counsel must be someone outside government, but whatever, right?
Also, not legal, as a Special Counsel must be someone outside government, but whatever, right?
Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at August 11, 2023 12:54 PM (kjOVp)
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"pal" or "PAL"?
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at August 11, 2023 12:53 PM (krqg6)
Wait I thought Canada was an NTSC shop.
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at August 11, 2023 12:53 PM (krqg6)
Wait I thought Canada was an NTSC shop.
Posted by: ... at August 11, 2023 12:55 PM (QSXi6)
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also, garland now naming a special counsel to deal with hunter biden sounds like a flaming skull moment to me.
Posted by: gnats local 678 at August 11, 2023 12:54 PM (B1FKF)
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"It's a fiery trap!"
Posted by: gnats local 678 at August 11, 2023 12:54 PM (B1FKF)
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"It's a fiery trap!"
Posted by: ShainS -- Chief 'Misinformation' Researcher at AoSHQ at August 11, 2023 12:55 PM (6VKyY)
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I am a Kris Kobach guy. He's my favorite. But the dude ain't no kind a President material.
And I don't think absent the GOP being broken and submitting to DJT another term will be any more successful.
But FUCK the GOP.
I'll take a dude who at least gets after those bastards. And gets a few things done.
And I don't think absent the GOP being broken and submitting to DJT another term will be any more successful.
But FUCK the GOP.
I'll take a dude who at least gets after those bastards. And gets a few things done.
Posted by: Thesokorus at August 11, 2023 12:55 PM (X1EMB)
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Impeach Garland. Impeach Jack Smith. Impeach the entire DC District Court Judges roster.
But don't impeach Biden. Let the public hear all about his crimes from desperate Democrats.
But don't impeach Biden. Let the public hear all about his crimes from desperate Democrats.
Posted by: Now, that's unquestionably fair! at August 11, 2023 12:55 PM (5yag5)
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I don't know what it will take to get you guys to admit we've been LOSING A fuck-ton since November 8, 2016.
Posted by: ace at August 11, 2023 12:51 PM (KRtlO)
I am going to remind you when we are huddled around a fire avoiding the stasi patrols and planning on attacking the orphanage/tranny whorehouse that you thought Desantis was a better choice.
Posted by: ace at August 11, 2023 12:51 PM (KRtlO)
I am going to remind you when we are huddled around a fire avoiding the stasi patrols and planning on attacking the orphanage/tranny whorehouse that you thought Desantis was a better choice.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 11, 2023 12:55 PM (zZu0s)
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We've been losing a fuckton since 1992. We lost it all well before 2016. I realized this country was definitely burned down by 2014, and I was late to the party. A lot of people figured it out by 2006. I had my suspicions by then, but couldn't accept the truth for awhile.
Arguing who's latest to the funeral is sorta pointless.
Arguing who's latest to the funeral is sorta pointless.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 11, 2023 12:55 PM (0FoWg)
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Huh, I didn't know Ace was in Burbank...
TikTok video captures man lurking near women’s legs in Burbank bookstore
https://tinyurl.com/3f2h9pu2
And, of course, the lame response I would expect from Ace after being caught...
Witter turned around and confronted the man, asking him what he was doing. He claimed he was tying his shoes.
“Which he wasn’t,” Witter said. “He was pretending to. His shoes were tied.”
For shame!!!
TikTok video captures man lurking near women’s legs in Burbank bookstore
https://tinyurl.com/3f2h9pu2
And, of course, the lame response I would expect from Ace after being caught...
Witter turned around and confronted the man, asking him what he was doing. He claimed he was tying his shoes.
“Which he wasn’t,” Witter said. “He was pretending to. His shoes were tied.”
For shame!!!
Posted by: BeautifulHillaryClinton at August 11, 2023 12:55 PM (MFZ8i)
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Id say it's #2, as we see how you can easily get Trump to go gaga over you as long as you blow smoke up his ass.
Just look at this story about him refusing to endorse the eventual Republican nominee. He said he'd only endorse 2, one being Tim Scott, and his very reasoning was "he's said nice things about me" 90% of the shit Scott has proposed since in office is BLM favored horsecrap.
This is also why the Democrats are morons. They could've had complete control of the Trump presidency by just saying nice things about him. Wouldn't even have to be on TV to inflame the danger hair squads, just tell him in a private meeting.
Just look at this story about him refusing to endorse the eventual Republican nominee. He said he'd only endorse 2, one being Tim Scott, and his very reasoning was "he's said nice things about me" 90% of the shit Scott has proposed since in office is BLM favored horsecrap.
This is also why the Democrats are morons. They could've had complete control of the Trump presidency by just saying nice things about him. Wouldn't even have to be on TV to inflame the danger hair squads, just tell him in a private meeting.
Posted by: Ian S. at August 11, 2023 12:55 PM (2ocoG)
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PBS has spoken! You should be wearing masks including in your own home because of the 'rona.
https://tinyurl.com/5n7kh452
https://tinyurl.com/5n7kh452
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 11, 2023 12:56 PM (FVME7)
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Why don't you just "wait" with me for it to happen again? I'm happy to do so. It's not like up and coming Republicans who seem legit and trustworthy don't screw us every other few months.
Posted by: ...
Maybe you could reign it in a bit there, sport, and not lay into the hyperbole to make what ever the fuck point you think you were making?
Posted by: ...
Maybe you could reign it in a bit there, sport, and not lay into the hyperbole to make what ever the fuck point you think you were making?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 11, 2023 12:56 PM (IG4Id)
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What about Rex Tillerson? He wasn’t from the DC swamp, right? But he didn’t work out, either. (I forget exactly what it was that got him canned, though.)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 11, 2023 12:56 PM (xTRSc)
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It's easy to embrace Trump and his revenge quest once you're comfy with the idea that the ship is already on the reef and headed to the bottom muy pronto.
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2023 12:56 PM (RG6z4)
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285 I'm not convinced that Pelosi, Milley, and Miller schemed to make this happen just to destroy MAGA. I'm still skeptical that people scheme so ruthlessly and diabolically, and further doubt they even have the ability to execute such plans.
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Counterpoint: And yet they are speaker of house, sec Def, and joint chiefs chairman. They have demonstrated sufficient acumen to get where they got.No?
As appalling as it is, we have to face it.
Posted by: Simplemind at August 11, 2023 12:53 PM (aMvxn)
Our democracy is so vulnerable that a few people parading through the halls of Congress almost upset it entirely.
You'd think that if that were the case, they'd go into overkill to protect it.
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Counterpoint: And yet they are speaker of house, sec Def, and joint chiefs chairman. They have demonstrated sufficient acumen to get where they got.No?
As appalling as it is, we have to face it.
Posted by: Simplemind at August 11, 2023 12:53 PM (aMvxn)
Our democracy is so vulnerable that a few people parading through the halls of Congress almost upset it entirely.
You'd think that if that were the case, they'd go into overkill to protect it.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 11, 2023 12:56 PM (KbCG3)
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All this planning couldn't be just a coincidence
Posted by: Skip at August 11, 2023 12:56 PM (FJUxs)
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I didn't know Morning Joe exists now
Posted by: ... at August 11, 2023 12:56 PM (QSXi6)
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294 Michigan State Senator Ruth Johnson, who is a former Secretary of State, told the Gateway Pundit:
“My estimate is over 800,000 ballot applications were sent to non-qualified voters in Michigan, including many individuals who moved or died, and even some individuals who were underage or non-citizens. Many were sent to people who had moved out of state.”
Posted by: rhennigantx at August 11, 2023 12:54 PM (BRHaw)
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So the ceiling on the steal in Michigan is 0.8% of the entire population of the state, not just voters. Whitmer won by less than 500,000 votes.
“My estimate is over 800,000 ballot applications were sent to non-qualified voters in Michigan, including many individuals who moved or died, and even some individuals who were underage or non-citizens. Many were sent to people who had moved out of state.”
Posted by: rhennigantx at August 11, 2023 12:54 PM (BRHaw)
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So the ceiling on the steal in Michigan is 0.8% of the entire population of the state, not just voters. Whitmer won by less than 500,000 votes.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 11, 2023 12:56 PM (LvTSG)
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Merrick Garland just appointed the same snake, David Weiss, who gave Hunter that sweetheart deal, to be Special Counsel investigating Hunter.
Also, not legal, as a Special Counsel must be someone outside government, but whatever, right?
Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at August 11, 2023 12:54 PM (kjOVp)
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Out: Calvinball.
In: Calvinlaw.
Also, not legal, as a Special Counsel must be someone outside government, but whatever, right?
Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at August 11, 2023 12:54 PM (kjOVp)
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Out: Calvinball.
In: Calvinlaw.
Posted by: ShainS -- Chief 'Misinformation' Researcher at AoSHQ at August 11, 2023 12:56 PM (6VKyY)
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Perhaps by some. For the rest of us, Mattis appeared to be a whole lot of show and not much go.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at August 11, 2023 12:46 PM (7B5FA)
The Horde has been hornswoggled, too. We used to like Cheney, and Bolton.
Posted by: blaster
Hornswoggled? Perhaps.
Like an iceberg, we only get to see about 10% of what is going on. We selectively choose what confirms our biases.
My brother in law worked for Kellogg, Brown and Root (then part of Halliburton, when Cheney was CEO of Halliburton), and he despised Cheney for some of the things he did as CEO.
I could go into details, but why bother?
It is rumored that Mattis is gay, since he never married. I have no idea, that was just an ugly rumor.
He was also Commander of Centcom prior to retiring, which should have also been a clue, as he was responsible (in part) for keeping the Afghan war going on. Keep the pork rolling. And afterward, part of Theranos, which was a really corrupt corporation. But "Mad Dog" Mattis, career Marine...was a great American!!! We all thought, because we wanted to think that.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at August 11, 2023 12:46 PM (7B5FA)
The Horde has been hornswoggled, too. We used to like Cheney, and Bolton.
Posted by: blaster
Hornswoggled? Perhaps.
Like an iceberg, we only get to see about 10% of what is going on. We selectively choose what confirms our biases.
My brother in law worked for Kellogg, Brown and Root (then part of Halliburton, when Cheney was CEO of Halliburton), and he despised Cheney for some of the things he did as CEO.
I could go into details, but why bother?
It is rumored that Mattis is gay, since he never married. I have no idea, that was just an ugly rumor.
He was also Commander of Centcom prior to retiring, which should have also been a clue, as he was responsible (in part) for keeping the Afghan war going on. Keep the pork rolling. And afterward, part of Theranos, which was a really corrupt corporation. But "Mad Dog" Mattis, career Marine...was a great American!!! We all thought, because we wanted to think that.
Posted by: Barnacle Bill the sailor at August 11, 2023 12:56 PM (vcOmj)
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296 Merrick Garland just appointed the same snake, David Weiss, who gave Hunter that sweetheart deal, to be Special Counsel investigating Hunter.
Also, not legal, as a Special Counsel must be someone outside government, but whatever, right?
Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at August 11, 2023 12:54 PM (kjOVp)
Unfortunately, Barr set a precedent by appointing Durham a Special Counsel. The Dems are exploiting that.
Also, not legal, as a Special Counsel must be someone outside government, but whatever, right?
Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at August 11, 2023 12:54 PM (kjOVp)
Unfortunately, Barr set a precedent by appointing Durham a Special Counsel. The Dems are exploiting that.
Posted by: Gref at August 11, 2023 12:57 PM (AMIL/)
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The thing with the National Guard on J6 is that, according to Colonel Matthews of the NG, who threw his boss under the bus about the slow deployment, some people clearly did not merely want the incident to happen, they wanted to go the full MacArthur/Patton Bonus Army on the demonstrators.
Would they have gone full Business Plot, fired on Trump, and installed a "temporary" military junta until Biden could officially become president 2 weeks later?
Well, assuming Biden was not sidelined for being mentally unsound. I expect they would have found another way to get Harris to take a knee.
Did NG Generals Flynn and Piatt actually save the country by refusing to go along with the coup?
Not that a conspiracy theory that wild could possibly be taken seriously in this day and age!
Would they have gone full Business Plot, fired on Trump, and installed a "temporary" military junta until Biden could officially become president 2 weeks later?
Well, assuming Biden was not sidelined for being mentally unsound. I expect they would have found another way to get Harris to take a knee.
Did NG Generals Flynn and Piatt actually save the country by refusing to go along with the coup?
Not that a conspiracy theory that wild could possibly be taken seriously in this day and age!
Posted by: Sam at August 11, 2023 12:57 PM (ohyxL)
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I don't know what it will take to get you guys to admit we've been LOSING A fuck-ton since November 8, 2016.
Posted by: ace at August 11, 2023 12:51 PM (KRtlO)
We have, but I'm still not going to put it on us losing as much as they're stealing everything with regards to elections.
They mastered it by getting Biden elected and not ONE THING was done about it.
It will be the same in 24.
Posted by: ace at August 11, 2023 12:51 PM (KRtlO)
We have, but I'm still not going to put it on us losing as much as they're stealing everything with regards to elections.
They mastered it by getting Biden elected and not ONE THING was done about it.
It will be the same in 24.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 11, 2023 12:57 PM (Zz0t1)
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I don't see any of DeSantis' picks going rogue and undermining his agenda. They all seem to advance the agenda, almost like he's an in-charge executive who keeps an eye on his subordinates and also knows enough to know who is with him and who is against him.
Posted by: ace
He'll do what The Party tells him and every now and then he'll get the treat of doing something he wants to do... IOW, he plays ball they will let him feed pedos to the chippers.
Posted by: ace
He'll do what The Party tells him and every now and then he'll get the treat of doing something he wants to do... IOW, he plays ball they will let him feed pedos to the chippers.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at August 11, 2023 12:57 PM (ga8qR)
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I don't know what it will take to get you guys to admit we've been LOSING A fuck-ton since November 8, 2016.
Posted by: ace at August 11, 2023 12:51 PM (KRtlO)
Ace the GOP threw the 2018 mid terms and the 2020 election.
They are colluding with the DEMs.
This is obvious. Painfully obvious.
Posted by: ace at August 11, 2023 12:51 PM (KRtlO)
Ace the GOP threw the 2018 mid terms and the 2020 election.
They are colluding with the DEMs.
This is obvious. Painfully obvious.
Posted by: Thesokorus at August 11, 2023 12:57 PM (X1EMB)
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Oh just shut up and do porn already.........twat.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 11, 2023 12:49 PM (Zz0t1)
I always love when people who are lifelong Atheist start telling Christians about their beliefs.
Im sure if someone offered Cupp enough money she'd do what you ask (though for the last 10 years I don't think she'd sell much) as she flipped on every position she had when she joined CNN.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 11, 2023 12:49 PM (Zz0t1)
I always love when people who are lifelong Atheist start telling Christians about their beliefs.
Im sure if someone offered Cupp enough money she'd do what you ask (though for the last 10 years I don't think she'd sell much) as she flipped on every position she had when she joined CNN.
Posted by: Rbastid at August 11, 2023 12:57 PM (ZlDJu)
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It appears most of DC is The Swamp, with most politicians owned by participating in The Grift and/or being blackmailed by CIA and company holding something over their head (of which the Epstein Island crap is just a part).
Jim Hoft interviews Patrick Byrne who says they were setting up the Republican Candidate is a Russian asset thang way back in 2015, including running Russians into contact with Chris Christie. They then used that contact as "evidence" to the FISA court to spy on Christie. Of course they later concentrated on Trump and his team.
Yes, it is all very well planned, but not by dunces like Pelosi or DiFi. CIA has people embedded everywhere, no doubt in the WEF as well as media.
Jim Hoft interviews Patrick Byrne who says they were setting up the Republican Candidate is a Russian asset thang way back in 2015, including running Russians into contact with Chris Christie. They then used that contact as "evidence" to the FISA court to spy on Christie. Of course they later concentrated on Trump and his team.
Yes, it is all very well planned, but not by dunces like Pelosi or DiFi. CIA has people embedded everywhere, no doubt in the WEF as well as media.
Posted by: illiniwek at August 11, 2023 12:57 PM (Cus5s)
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242 David Weiss is named Special Counsel in Hunter Biden probe.
Posted by: redridinghood
Wow, I thought they'd assign Mueller...
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 11, 2023 12:47 PM
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Mueller was as senile as Joe Biden is now. Weiss ran the special counsel.
242 David Weiss is named Special Counsel in Hunter Biden probe.
Posted by: redridinghood
Wow, I thought they'd assign Mueller...
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 11, 2023 12:47 PM
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Mueller was as senile as Joe Biden is now. Weiss ran the special counsel.
Posted by: rd at August 11, 2023 12:58 PM (hhb1F)
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PBS has spoken! You should be wearing masks including in your own home because of the 'rona.
https://tinyurl.com/5n7kh452
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 11, 2023 12:56 PM (FVME7)
Oh f*ck right the f*ck off with that shit......
https://tinyurl.com/5n7kh452
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 11, 2023 12:56 PM (FVME7)
Oh f*ck right the f*ck off with that shit......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 11, 2023 12:58 PM (Zz0t1)
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Garland just appointed Weiss as special council in the Hunter Biden case... the fix is in.
Posted by: neverBiden at August 11, 2023 12:58 PM (eIGHH)
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259 Deutsch Warns MSNBC’s ‘Morning Joe’ May Cease to Exist if Trump Elected in 2024
.. they don't need to convince me
Posted by: SMOD at August 11, 2023 12:49 PM (RHGPo)
Yeah. Promise?
.. they don't need to convince me
Posted by: SMOD at August 11, 2023 12:49 PM (RHGPo)
Yeah. Promise?
Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 11, 2023 12:58 PM (/iWhV)
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Congress had a say in that temporary state of policy.
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I knew somebody was gong to say it. It's always something. Historically it is unusual to have control of both chambers. Reagan did not have it. Somehow managed.
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I knew somebody was gong to say it. It's always something. Historically it is unusual to have control of both chambers. Reagan did not have it. Somehow managed.
Posted by: runner at August 11, 2023 12:58 PM (haV5y)
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Every day the special counsel drags on the statute of limitations runs out.
And McCarthy is even calling this a sham.
And McCarthy is even calling this a sham.
Posted by: redridinghood at August 11, 2023 12:58 PM (NpAcC)
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Maybe you could reign it in a bit there, sport, and not lay into the hyperbole to make what ever the fuck point you think you were making?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 11, 2023 12:56 PM (IG4Id)
May as well ask the sun to stop shining or the grass to stop growing.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 11, 2023 12:56 PM (IG4Id)
May as well ask the sun to stop shining or the grass to stop growing.
Posted by: ... at August 11, 2023 12:58 PM (QSXi6)
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Weiss is now a "special counsel" but who cares, he has already shown his colors. Hunter will walk
Posted by: Nevergiveup
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"No responsible prosecutor would pursue this."
Posted by: Nevergiveup
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"No responsible prosecutor would pursue this."
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 11, 2023 12:58 PM (3bqKz)
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And placing fewer but actually loyal to the voters pols is not losing vs installing a bunch of GOP hack betrayers.
Posted by: Thesokorus at August 11, 2023 12:59 PM (X1EMB)
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Andy McCarthy is even calling this a sham.
Posted by: redridinghood at August 11, 2023 12:59 PM (NpAcC)
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Oh just shut up and do porn already.........twat.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden
S.E. Cupp is a little to long in the tooth for that. Maybe set up an OF account catering to horny 80 year olds with a vat full of Viagra.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden
S.E. Cupp is a little to long in the tooth for that. Maybe set up an OF account catering to horny 80 year olds with a vat full of Viagra.
Posted by: Cheri at August 11, 2023 12:59 PM (oiNtH)
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I don't see any of DeSantis' picks going rogue and undermining his agenda. They all seem to advance the agenda, almost like he's an in-charge executive who keeps an eye on his subordinates and also knows enough to know who is with him and who is against him.
Posted by: ace
That’s admirable given how well established the deep state is in Florida /s
Posted by: ace
That’s admirable given how well established the deep state is in Florida /s
Posted by: db at August 11, 2023 12:59 PM (wu87C)
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326 Congress had a say in that temporary state of policy.
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I knew somebody was gong to say it. It's always something. Historically it is unusual to have control of both chambers. Reagan did not have it. Somehow managed.
Posted by: runner at August 11, 2023 12:58 PM (haV5y)
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Congress was against Trump because of their differences in policy, not because he was uncouth or they thought he was a Russian agent (they're all scumbags and they knew for a fact he wasn't).
The idea that Congress will do all of the conservative things under Trumpism without Trump seems misguided.
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I knew somebody was gong to say it. It's always something. Historically it is unusual to have control of both chambers. Reagan did not have it. Somehow managed.
Posted by: runner at August 11, 2023 12:58 PM (haV5y)
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Congress was against Trump because of their differences in policy, not because he was uncouth or they thought he was a Russian agent (they're all scumbags and they knew for a fact he wasn't).
The idea that Congress will do all of the conservative things under Trumpism without Trump seems misguided.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 11, 2023 12:59 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 11, 2023 12:59 PM (FVME7)
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They also talked about Epps.
Video shows Epps cupping he hand and whispering to a cohort who immediately goes and vigorously confronts a capital cop.
Video shows Epps cupping he hand and whispering to a cohort who immediately goes and vigorously confronts a capital cop.
Posted by: Braenyard at August 11, 2023 01:00 PM (lCWOD)
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Perhaps by some. For the rest of us, Mattis appeared to be a whole lot of show and not much go.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at August 11, 2023 12:46 PM (7B5FA)
The Horde has been hornswoggled, too. We used to like Cheney, and Bolton.
Posted by: blaster
I still like Bolton . Never liked Cheney. He was the Dems favorite congressman.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at August 11, 2023 12:46 PM (7B5FA)
The Horde has been hornswoggled, too. We used to like Cheney, and Bolton.
Posted by: blaster
I still like Bolton . Never liked Cheney. He was the Dems favorite congressman.
Posted by: polynikes at August 11, 2023 01:00 PM (MNhXM)
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I'll take a dude who at least gets after those bastards. And gets a few things done.
Posted by: Thesokorus
Ghengis Khan is not on the ballot.
(that's just a joke, don't take is seriously)
Posted by: Thesokorus
Ghengis Khan is not on the ballot.
(that's just a joke, don't take is seriously)
Posted by: Barnacle Bill the sailor at August 11, 2023 01:00 PM (vcOmj)
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The Fraudulent Bureau of Instigation pays its instigators in cash, so that there's no paper trail back to the Bureau. They have deniability like that.
Posted by: Wofus at August 11, 2023 01:00 PM (9ejSY)
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What has Mitch had to say about the Special Counsel? Hahababba
Posted by: Thesokorus at August 11, 2023 01:00 PM (X1EMB)
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Ace the GOP threw the 2018 mid terms and the 2020 election.
They are colluding with the DEMs.
This is obvious. Painfully obvious.
Posted by: Thesokorus at August 11, 2023 12:57 PM (X1EMB)
They threw 2016 too but Trump won anyway.
And it pays to note they threw 2008 and 2012.
They are colluding with the DEMs.
This is obvious. Painfully obvious.
Posted by: Thesokorus at August 11, 2023 12:57 PM (X1EMB)
They threw 2016 too but Trump won anyway.
And it pays to note they threw 2008 and 2012.
Posted by: ... at August 11, 2023 01:00 PM (QSXi6)
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I don't know what it will take to get you guys to admit we've been LOSING A fuck-ton since November 8, 2016
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We would have "lost" 2016 also, but they didn't take him seriously and believed she was going to win so they didn't fortify the vote. There is only one party. We ain't in it. Better candidates ain't going to make any difference...but don't worry. This will get fixed eventually. Things that can't continue,don't.
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We would have "lost" 2016 also, but they didn't take him seriously and believed she was going to win so they didn't fortify the vote. There is only one party. We ain't in it. Better candidates ain't going to make any difference...but don't worry. This will get fixed eventually. Things that can't continue,don't.
Posted by: Simplemind at August 11, 2023 01:00 PM (aMvxn)
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268 220 What about the aliens? When are we going to hear more about those guys? You know one time they LANDED A SHIP ON THE ELLIPSE and do you hear anything about that? Nope!
ack ack ACK ACK ACKACK ack ack ACK ACK ACK
*makes international sign of the doughnut*
Posted by: ack at August 11, 2023 12:51 PM (oY6Yp)
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I just realized the aliens in "Arrival" (the movie with Amy Adams) drew the international sign of the donut with their psy-ink!
ack ack ACK ACK ACKACK ack ack ACK ACK ACK
*makes international sign of the doughnut*
Posted by: ack at August 11, 2023 12:51 PM (oY6Yp)
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I just realized the aliens in "Arrival" (the movie with Amy Adams) drew the international sign of the donut with their psy-ink!
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at August 11, 2023 01:00 PM (ssESX)
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you guys just refuse to look at the vote totals in the three elections since 2016. Refuse, Refuse, Refuse. I always mock the neocons for thinking it's still 2003. But for a lot of Trump supporters, it will always be November 8, 2016, when we could all pretend that we're gonna win so much we'll get sick of winning.
I don't know what it will take to get you guys to admit we've been LOSING A fuck-ton since November 8, 2016.
Posted by: ace
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Guess what, with the GOP from top to bottom as Uniparty losers revealed since then, it was always going to be that way.
We are stuck in Casey Jone's passenger cars waiting for the inevitable crash. So believing that voting for preezy at the national level for changes sufficient to prevent the crash is fantasyland regardless of whether the cheat can be beat.
We should quite frankly be worrying about our local czars and state czars more as my guess is that might make a difference in Burning Times more than who is preezy.
I don't know what it will take to get you guys to admit we've been LOSING A fuck-ton since November 8, 2016.
Posted by: ace
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Guess what, with the GOP from top to bottom as Uniparty losers revealed since then, it was always going to be that way.
We are stuck in Casey Jone's passenger cars waiting for the inevitable crash. So believing that voting for preezy at the national level for changes sufficient to prevent the crash is fantasyland regardless of whether the cheat can be beat.
We should quite frankly be worrying about our local czars and state czars more as my guess is that might make a difference in Burning Times more than who is preezy.
Posted by: whig at August 11, 2023 01:00 PM (V+/H3)
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"I'm still skeptical that people scheme so ruthlessly and diabolically, and further doubt they even have the ability to execute such plans."
*Kool/choom/pole smoker has entered the chat*
*Kool/choom/pole smoker has entered the chat*
Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at August 11, 2023 01:00 PM (jSQ4p)
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Meanwhile Biden himself ducks an interview with Robert Hur, Special Counsel investigating his illegal possession of Classified documents, and the press does not care.
Posted by: Now, that's unquestionably fair! at August 11, 2023 01:01 PM (5yag5)
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is also why the Democrats are morons. They could've had complete control of the Trump presidency by just saying nice things about him. Wouldn't even have to be on TV to inflame the danger hair squads, just tell him in a private meeting.
Posted by: Ian S.
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100%
All Dems had to do was be friendly with Trump, say a few nice things about him and talk about working together. He would have signed any bill Pelosi sent him.
Posted by: Ian S.
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100%
All Dems had to do was be friendly with Trump, say a few nice things about him and talk about working together. He would have signed any bill Pelosi sent him.
Posted by: Montec at August 11, 2023 01:01 PM (yx8Q1)
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Honestly, though, what have we lost? Without people willing to act against the machine, all you're left with is, "Do you want it faster or slower?"
Right. We certainly wouldn't want to take on the establishment with a guy who has demonstrated a willingness to fight in his own state, thus turning it from a purple to an incarnadine state. That way lies madness. No, let's stick with the guy who didn't get it done last time.
Right. We certainly wouldn't want to take on the establishment with a guy who has demonstrated a willingness to fight in his own state, thus turning it from a purple to an incarnadine state. That way lies madness. No, let's stick with the guy who didn't get it done last time.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 11, 2023 01:01 PM (eOEVl)
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302 We've been losing a fuckton since 1992. We lost it all well before 2016. I realized this country was definitely burned down by 2014, and I was late to the party. A lot of people figured it out by 2006. I had my suspicions by then, but couldn't accept the truth for awhile.
Arguing who's latest to the funeral is sorta pointless.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 11, 2023 12:55 PM (0FoWg)
Exactly. To go a step further, W and the thunder cucks had reduced the GOP to absolute rubble by the end of his second disastrous term; they are why the Left was able to seal the deal. But/for the unexpected Trump win the Republican Party would be dead now. Keeping the GOP on life support was the worst thing Trump did.
Arguing who's latest to the funeral is sorta pointless.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 11, 2023 12:55 PM (0FoWg)
Exactly. To go a step further, W and the thunder cucks had reduced the GOP to absolute rubble by the end of his second disastrous term; they are why the Left was able to seal the deal. But/for the unexpected Trump win the Republican Party would be dead now. Keeping the GOP on life support was the worst thing Trump did.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at August 11, 2023 01:01 PM (KSNKu)
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So the Biden cabal is gonna investigate itself...
Posted by: It's me donna at August 11, 2023 01:01 PM (bs+z0)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 11, 2023 01:01 PM (FVME7)
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Right. We certainly wouldn't want to take on the establishment with a guy who has demonstrated a willingness to fight in his own state, thus turning it from a purple to an incarnadine state. That way lies madness. No, let's stick with the guy who didn't get it done last time.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 11, 2023 01:01 PM (eOEVl)
A guy who also says that there were no substantial voting irregularities in 2020?
Posted by: Archimedes at August 11, 2023 01:01 PM (eOEVl)
A guy who also says that there were no substantial voting irregularities in 2020?
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 11, 2023 01:02 PM (zZu0s)
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We should quite frankly be worrying about our local czars and state czars more as my guess is that might make a difference in Burning Times more than who is preezy.
exactly whig
and who our neighbors are
exactly whig
and who our neighbors are
Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 11, 2023 01:02 PM (AcWfM)
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Mueller was as senile as Joe Biden is now.
Posted by: rd
I agree, that is why I thought Garland would chose him.
Mueller was as senile as Joe Biden is now.
Posted by: rd
I agree, that is why I thought Garland would chose him.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 11, 2023 01:02 PM (jq39B)
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And it pays to note they threw 2008 and 2012.
Posted by: ...
Yes, Mitt had the Kinsley gaffe the other day admitting that running for preezy is fun if you know you are going to lose.
Posted by: ...
Yes, Mitt had the Kinsley gaffe the other day admitting that running for preezy is fun if you know you are going to lose.
Posted by: whig at August 11, 2023 01:02 PM (V+/H3)
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They threw 2016 too but Trump won anyway.
And it pays to note they threw 2008 and 2012.
Posted by: ... at August 11, 2023 01:00 PM (QSXi6)
TRUTH!
And it pays to note they threw 2008 and 2012.
Posted by: ... at August 11, 2023 01:00 PM (QSXi6)
TRUTH!
Posted by: Thesokorus at August 11, 2023 01:02 PM (X1EMB)
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I don't see any of DeSantis' picks going rogue and undermining his agenda. They all seem to advance the agenda, almost like he's an in-charge executive who keeps an eye on his subordinates and also knows enough to know who is with him and who is against him.
Posted by: ace
He'll do what The Party tells him and every now and then he'll get the treat of doing something he wants to do... IOW, he plays ball they will let him feed pedos to the chippers.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher
Wait until he gets to DC and is told he will pick a Jeff Sessions because that's all the Senate will allow.
Posted by: ace
He'll do what The Party tells him and every now and then he'll get the treat of doing something he wants to do... IOW, he plays ball they will let him feed pedos to the chippers.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher
Wait until he gets to DC and is told he will pick a Jeff Sessions because that's all the Senate will allow.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 11, 2023 01:03 PM (nW4TA)
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324 Garland just appointed Weiss as special council in the Hunter Biden case... the fix is in.
Posted by: neverBiden at August 11, 2023 12:58 PM (eIGHH)
But I thought Garland testified that Weiss was already in possession of all powers necessary to prosecute.
Posted by: neverBiden at August 11, 2023 12:58 PM (eIGHH)
But I thought Garland testified that Weiss was already in possession of all powers necessary to prosecute.
Posted by: 7man at August 11, 2023 01:03 PM (qwO6y)
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Disturbing Chain of Events Makes Damning Case That January 6 Was Allowed to Happen
Bullshit. You don’t go to all that trouble to “allow” something to happen. The stuff that made it on TV was planned.
The whole thing was massively weird. I was out in the crowd outside; I had no idea there was anything going on inside, or that people were being allowed in. Got bored and left. As I was leaving, the curfew notice came in over my cell phone (it happening as I exited the crowd may not have been a coincidence: there were a lot of people outside, and cell service was unreliable because of this), and thinking there might be something going on, I walked back. It was still just people milling around, so I left and went to King Street for oysters.
Bullshit. You don’t go to all that trouble to “allow” something to happen. The stuff that made it on TV was planned.
The whole thing was massively weird. I was out in the crowd outside; I had no idea there was anything going on inside, or that people were being allowed in. Got bored and left. As I was leaving, the curfew notice came in over my cell phone (it happening as I exited the crowd may not have been a coincidence: there were a lot of people outside, and cell service was unreliable because of this), and thinking there might be something going on, I walked back. It was still just people milling around, so I left and went to King Street for oysters.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 11, 2023 01:03 PM (EXyHK)
360
The weekend is coming
Posted by: Skip at August 11, 2023 12:53 PM (FJUxs)
Four more hours.
It might go faster if I actually did some work instead of just sitting here hitting F5 every twelve seconds.
Posted by: Skip at August 11, 2023 12:53 PM (FJUxs)
Four more hours.
It might go faster if I actually did some work instead of just sitting here hitting F5 every twelve seconds.
Posted by: spindrift at August 11, 2023 01:03 PM (FRu7m)
361
I don't know what it will take to get you guys to admit we've been LOSING A fuck-ton since November 8, 2016.
Posted by: ace at August 11, 2023 12:51 PM (KRtlO)
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The cabal doesn't intend to ever allow us to win no matter who we put up.
They will burn the country down first.
Trump is a distraction. He is only still alive because it gives the rubes the illusion of a choice in the matter. And as a warning to anyone better who wants to try to fix things. Because if anyone seriously tries the full force of the government will come down on them like a ton of bricks.
Trump was right, they aren't after him, they are after us and he's just in the way.
But he's not enough. No one is.
Posted by: ace at August 11, 2023 12:51 PM (KRtlO)
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The cabal doesn't intend to ever allow us to win no matter who we put up.
They will burn the country down first.
Trump is a distraction. He is only still alive because it gives the rubes the illusion of a choice in the matter. And as a warning to anyone better who wants to try to fix things. Because if anyone seriously tries the full force of the government will come down on them like a ton of bricks.
Trump was right, they aren't after him, they are after us and he's just in the way.
But he's not enough. No one is.
Posted by: Just Lily at August 11, 2023 01:03 PM (RLLZj)
362
Who recommended Milley to Trump in the first place? Pence?
Posted by: Jaimo at August 11, 2023 01:03 PM (DBrN4)
363
I guess I'll just write in My own name for President because it won't matter anyway
Posted by: It's me donna at August 11, 2023 01:03 PM (bs+z0)
364
To continue on my point..
People keep saying DeSantis should have waited, admitting that he is a great candidate. Maybe people shouldhave been saying that the country couldn't wait and Trump shouldn't have run. Instead Trump will continue on with all his flaws on full display and refuse to debate a candidate that could actually make a difference. Who thinks any of this would stop with his election?
People keep saying DeSantis should have waited, admitting that he is a great candidate. Maybe people shouldhave been saying that the country couldn't wait and Trump shouldn't have run. Instead Trump will continue on with all his flaws on full display and refuse to debate a candidate that could actually make a difference. Who thinks any of this would stop with his election?
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 11, 2023 01:03 PM (t/2Uw)
365
I predict Manchin challenges Biden for the nomination, because the Dems abandoned him in the Senate and because he is losing in his re-election bid.
Bitter and angry; good motivation for a primary challenge.
Bitter and angry; good motivation for a primary challenge.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 11, 2023 01:03 PM (5yag5)
366
It is rumored that Mattis is gay, since he never married. I have no idea, that was just an ugly rumor.
It's not proof positive, but a friend of mine knew him when he was much younger, and said Mattis was always trying to get him (my friend) to set him up on dates.
It's not proof positive, but a friend of mine knew him when he was much younger, and said Mattis was always trying to get him (my friend) to set him up on dates.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 11, 2023 01:04 PM (eOEVl)
367
In the 2000s the GOP was a party for war and tax cuts for the rich. But somehow managed to convince a lot of people they were for helping the middle class, small businesses and all the mom and apple pie shit.
It took a long time for many of us to wake up to this reality. And a Marjory of Republicans still don’t get it and probably never will.
It took a long time for many of us to wake up to this reality. And a Marjory of Republicans still don’t get it and probably never will.
Posted by: Montec at August 11, 2023 01:04 PM (yx8Q1)
368
Wait until he gets to DC and is told he will pick a Jeff Sessions because that's all the Senate will allow.
Posted by: rickb223
Yep.
Posted by: rickb223
Yep.
Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at August 11, 2023 01:04 PM (kjOVp)
369
Find 10 honest men and women in DC. And.....you can't.
Posted by: Barnacle Bill the sailor at August 11, 2023 12:48 PM (vcOmj)
That bodes ill, doesn't it?
Find 10 honest men and women in DC. And.....you can't.
Posted by: Barnacle Bill the sailor at August 11, 2023 12:48 PM (vcOmj)
That bodes ill, doesn't it?
Posted by: Moki at August 11, 2023 01:04 PM (JrN/x)
370
Meanwhile
Salon thinks Trump is a danger to Humanity because of his social media posts.
PS Is Jimmy Carter still alive?
Salon thinks Trump is a danger to Humanity because of his social media posts.
PS Is Jimmy Carter still alive?
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 11, 2023 01:04 PM (lkmtx)
371
358 324 Garland just appointed Weiss as special council in the Hunter Biden case... the fix is in.
Posted by: neverBiden at August 11, 2023 12:58 PM (eIGHH)
But I thought Garland testified that Weiss was already in possession of all powers necessary to prosecute.
Posted by: 7man at August 11, 2023 01:03 PM (qwO6y)
He did.
You racist.
Posted by: neverBiden at August 11, 2023 12:58 PM (eIGHH)
But I thought Garland testified that Weiss was already in possession of all powers necessary to prosecute.
Posted by: 7man at August 11, 2023 01:03 PM (qwO6y)
He did.
You racist.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at August 11, 2023 01:04 PM (KSNKu)
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363 I guess I'll just write in My own name for President because it won't matter anyway
Posted by: It's me donna at August 11, 2023 01:03 PM (bs+z0)
I could use canvassers (or maybe just someone to talk to) in my Thompson 2024 campaign...
Posted by: It's me donna at August 11, 2023 01:03 PM (bs+z0)
I could use canvassers (or maybe just someone to talk to) in my Thompson 2024 campaign...
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 11, 2023 01:04 PM (zZu0s)
373
I continue to increasingly believe that our global business and political elite are up to their necks in the global child and women sex trafficking racket and will do anything, including eliminate any person they perceive as a threat, to keep their kink on.
When it breaks that almost all of the Davos crowd oversees all of this, I hope they are met not by law enforcement, but by enraged citizens, including parents who lost family to this.
When it breaks that almost all of the Davos crowd oversees all of this, I hope they are met not by law enforcement, but by enraged citizens, including parents who lost family to this.
Posted by: Black JEM at August 11, 2023 01:04 PM (UVyKP)
374
But I thought Garland testified that Weiss was already in possession of all powers necessary to prosecute.
Posted by: 7man at August 11, 2023 01:03 PM (qwO6y)
Weiss needed additional "cover-up" powers.
Posted by: 7man at August 11, 2023 01:03 PM (qwO6y)
Weiss needed additional "cover-up" powers.
Posted by: Thesokorus at August 11, 2023 01:04 PM (X1EMB)
375
So the ceiling on the steal in Michigan is 0.8% of the entire population of the state, not just voters. Whitmer won by less than 500,000 votes.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir
There are only 9.88 million people in Michigan, and likely a lot of them are younger than voting age (let's say 25%). Which gives about 7.4 million "voting age" citizens (a rough estimate). So about 10% of the voters in Michigan were "fake" and likely "ballot harvested" by eager and loyal young Democrats, and pile on the vote fraud in Wayne Country (Detroit). And there you have Gretchen Whitmer, governor of Michigan.
I am sure that Pennsylvania, Georgia, Arizona and a few other swing states have similar problems.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir
There are only 9.88 million people in Michigan, and likely a lot of them are younger than voting age (let's say 25%). Which gives about 7.4 million "voting age" citizens (a rough estimate). So about 10% of the voters in Michigan were "fake" and likely "ballot harvested" by eager and loyal young Democrats, and pile on the vote fraud in Wayne Country (Detroit). And there you have Gretchen Whitmer, governor of Michigan.
I am sure that Pennsylvania, Georgia, Arizona and a few other swing states have similar problems.
Posted by: Barnacle Bill the sailor at August 11, 2023 01:04 PM (vcOmj)
376
you guys just refuse to look at the vote totals in the three elections since 2016.
So you believe Biden got 81 Million votes and that no dems have fraudulently received votes since then?
So you believe Biden got 81 Million votes and that no dems have fraudulently received votes since then?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 11, 2023 01:04 PM (Zz0t1)
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>>I don't know what it will take to get you guys to admit we've been LOSING A fuck-ton since November 8, 2016.
We've been losing a fuck-ton for decades. It was on November 8, 2016 we started fighting back in earnest.
All of the shit we are currently living through right now didn't start 7 years ago. It's been building since the 60', in some ways before that. Trump was our message that enough was enough and they went into overdrive.
If anyone honestly thinks what is happening right now was caused by Trump they haven't been paying attention to what has been happening to our society and our government for many, many years. Did Mitch McConnell just get to the Seante when Trump was elected? Did 9/11 happen on his watch and did he create DHS that has now been weaponized against us?
Trump is our weapon to fight back and nobody else on our side is even in the same league. Ron isn't going to fix dick. Good governor, not ready for this fight. We are going to lose more battles. The game is for the soul of the country. Eyes on the prize.
We've been losing a fuck-ton for decades. It was on November 8, 2016 we started fighting back in earnest.
All of the shit we are currently living through right now didn't start 7 years ago. It's been building since the 60', in some ways before that. Trump was our message that enough was enough and they went into overdrive.
If anyone honestly thinks what is happening right now was caused by Trump they haven't been paying attention to what has been happening to our society and our government for many, many years. Did Mitch McConnell just get to the Seante when Trump was elected? Did 9/11 happen on his watch and did he create DHS that has now been weaponized against us?
Trump is our weapon to fight back and nobody else on our side is even in the same league. Ron isn't going to fix dick. Good governor, not ready for this fight. We are going to lose more battles. The game is for the soul of the country. Eyes on the prize.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 11, 2023 01:04 PM (ZLI7S)
378
This Milley guy, ugh.
Where did he come from?
It's like he was designed in a Chinese Lab to destroy America. Just like COVID.
This Milley guy, ugh.
Where did he come from?
It's like he was designed in a Chinese Lab to destroy America. Just like COVID.
Posted by: naturalfake at August 11, 2023 01:04 PM (QzZeQ)
379
Slogan: Sure he's dead, but he is more real now than most of the other side's voters!
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 11, 2023 01:04 PM (zZu0s)
380
exactly whig
and who our neighbors are
Posted by: BlackOrchid
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Absolutely. Poor people already know this but networks of close friends that are neighbors, and close by family, can make a difference in whether you thrive or wither in bad times.
Your network of linked in professionals will not help one iota.
and who our neighbors are
Posted by: BlackOrchid
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Absolutely. Poor people already know this but networks of close friends that are neighbors, and close by family, can make a difference in whether you thrive or wither in bad times.
Your network of linked in professionals will not help one iota.
Posted by: whig at August 11, 2023 01:04 PM (V+/H3)
381
"...January 6 Was Allowed to Happen."
Passive case [sigh].
The so-called 'riot' on that day was fomented (maybe fermented, too) by brightly glowing persons.
Period.
Passive case [sigh].
The so-called 'riot' on that day was fomented (maybe fermented, too) by brightly glowing persons.
Period.
Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at August 11, 2023 01:05 PM (Rbu5d)
382
It's not proof positive, but a friend of mine knew him when he was much younger, and said Mattis was always trying to get him (my friend) to set him up on dates.
with girls?
with girls?
Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 11, 2023 01:05 PM (AcWfM)
383
All Dems had to do was be friendly with Trump, say a few nice things about him and talk about working together. He would have signed any bill Pelosi sent him.
Posted by: Montec at August 11, 2023 01:01 PM (yx8Q1)
And they're just too stupid to know that?
Trump could have been their puppet but they were too blind to see it?
After doing it to the Bushes, to McCain, to Romney, to Ryan, to every prominent Republican I can think of, they just decided this time to not bother trying to buy off Trump. Even though it didn't even cost money, just compliments and being nice?
Interesting theory. Not remotely plausible.
All Dems had to do was be friendly with Trump, say a few nice things about him and talk about working together. He would have signed any bill Pelosi sent him.
Posted by: Montec at August 11, 2023 01:01 PM (yx8Q1)
And they're just too stupid to know that?
Trump could have been their puppet but they were too blind to see it?
After doing it to the Bushes, to McCain, to Romney, to Ryan, to every prominent Republican I can think of, they just decided this time to not bother trying to buy off Trump. Even though it didn't even cost money, just compliments and being nice?
Interesting theory. Not remotely plausible.
Posted by: ... at August 11, 2023 01:05 PM (QSXi6)
384
Tom Elliott
@tomselliott
Morning Joe: “‘Morning Joe’ might not exist [if Trump wins], as … he has said, ‘If I’m elected, I want the FCC reporting directly to me,’ & he will cancel this show. You need to think that — that extreme. It’s over! Freedom is over if Donald Trump gets elected”
___
I'd like to have a word with you.
@tomselliott
Morning Joe: “‘Morning Joe’ might not exist [if Trump wins], as … he has said, ‘If I’m elected, I want the FCC reporting directly to me,’ & he will cancel this show. You need to think that — that extreme. It’s over! Freedom is over if Donald Trump gets elected”
___
I'd like to have a word with you.
Posted by: Tucker Carlson Tonight at August 11, 2023 01:05 PM (fs1hN)
385
I want Desantis to get the nomination if for no other reason than to watch the FBI run a find/replace on the Steele dossier and present the Peele Dossier to the FISA court.
Yes, your honor, it turns out that Jordan Peele is indeed an intelligence resource for the government and he indicates that the Desantis campaign has been actively colluding with the Prussians.....
Yes, your honor, it turns out that Jordan Peele is indeed an intelligence resource for the government and he indicates that the Desantis campaign has been actively colluding with the Prussians.....
Posted by: KJP is a race and gender swapped Side Show Bob at August 11, 2023 01:05 PM (QpUKb)
386
What about Rex Tillerson? He wasn’t from the DC swamp, right? But he didn’t work out, either. (I forget exactly what it was that got him canned, though.)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 11, 2023 12:56 PM (xTRSc
He went against Trump’s directive and correctly should have been fired. The correct move should have been to resign if you felt that strongly.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 11, 2023 12:56 PM (xTRSc
He went against Trump’s directive and correctly should have been fired. The correct move should have been to resign if you felt that strongly.
Posted by: polynikes at August 11, 2023 01:05 PM (MNhXM)
387
So the Biden cabal is gonna investigate itself...
Posted by: It's me donna at August 11, 2023 01:01 PM
To be fair, it's the best way to insure the results you want.
Posted by: It's me donna at August 11, 2023 01:01 PM
To be fair, it's the best way to insure the results you want.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 11, 2023 01:05 PM (a3Q+t)
388
375 I am sure that Pennsylvania, Georgia, Arizona and a few other swing states have similar problems.
Posted by: Barnacle Bill the sailor at August 11, 2023 01:04 PM (vcOmj)
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A quality candidate will fix that.
Posted by: Barnacle Bill the sailor at August 11, 2023 01:04 PM (vcOmj)
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A quality candidate will fix that.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 11, 2023 01:05 PM (LvTSG)
389
Impeach Garland. Impeach Jack Smith. Impeach the entire DC District Court Judges roster.
But don't impeach Biden. Let the public hear all about his crimes from desperate Democrats.
Posted by: Now, that's unquestionably fair! at August 11, 2023 12:55 PM (5yag5)
==
I kind of like this.
But don't impeach Biden. Let the public hear all about his crimes from desperate Democrats.
Posted by: Now, that's unquestionably fair! at August 11, 2023 12:55 PM (5yag5)
==
I kind of like this.
Posted by: Black JEM at August 11, 2023 01:05 PM (UVyKP)
390
Congress was against Trump because of their differences in policy, not because he was uncouth or they thought he was a Russian agent (they're all scumbags and they knew for a fact he wasn't).
The idea that Congress will do all of the conservative things under Trumpism without Trump seems misguided.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemp
leadership. Is Trump a poor leader then? Then why do you want him to end up in the same place with the same actor's ? To fail again? What do smart people say about insanity ? Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
The idea that Congress will do all of the conservative things under Trumpism without Trump seems misguided.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemp
leadership. Is Trump a poor leader then? Then why do you want him to end up in the same place with the same actor's ? To fail again? What do smart people say about insanity ? Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
Posted by: runner at August 11, 2023 01:05 PM (haV5y)
391
"I don't know what it will take to get you guys to admit we've been LOSING A fuck-ton since November 8, 2016."
That's akin to trying to convince the manager at the Walgreens in San Francisco that he has a shoplifting problem.
That's akin to trying to convince the manager at the Walgreens in San Francisco that he has a shoplifting problem.
Posted by: neverBiden at August 11, 2023 01:05 PM (eIGHH)
392
348 Honestly, though, what have we lost? Without people willing to act against the machine, all you're left with is, "Do you want it faster or slower?"
Right. We certainly wouldn't want to take on the establishment with a guy who has demonstrated a willingness to fight in his own state, thus turning it from a purple to an incarnadine state. That way lies madness. No, let's stick with the guy who didn't get it done last time.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 11, 2023 01:01 PM (eOEVl)
Not sure if arguing with me or using my point to make yours.
Either way, I'll vote for Trump or DeSantis. My original point is that establishment GOPers losing their races is no big loss.
Right. We certainly wouldn't want to take on the establishment with a guy who has demonstrated a willingness to fight in his own state, thus turning it from a purple to an incarnadine state. That way lies madness. No, let's stick with the guy who didn't get it done last time.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 11, 2023 01:01 PM (eOEVl)
Not sure if arguing with me or using my point to make yours.
Either way, I'll vote for Trump or DeSantis. My original point is that establishment GOPers losing their races is no big loss.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 11, 2023 01:05 PM (KbCG3)
393
It is rumored that Mattis is gay, since he never married. I have no idea, that was just an ugly rumor.
If the Marines had wanted you to have a wife, they would have issued you a wife.
If the Marines had wanted you to have a wife, they would have issued you a wife.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 11, 2023 01:05 PM (nW4TA)
394
Donna for President, ‘24!
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 11, 2023 01:06 PM (xTRSc)
395
I actually did take Fred Thompson seriously for a spell as well.......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 11, 2023 01:06 PM (Zz0t1)
396
Both the Democrats and the Republican establishment take care of their own. Pence will never run out of cushy positions and honors for the rest of his life.
What did Trump have to offer to those members of his administration who stuck by him? Shame, ignominy, ostracism. I believe Trump's enemies have a black list and those on that list will never have a moment's quiet for the rest of their lives. An example has to be made.
And, besides, the outcome of the elections was probably known in advance, among people who matter.
While Trump was president, what was the best way to stay in the good graces of the press and the bureaucracy? Criticizing Trump and his positions, saying that something he wanted done was impossible and harmful, sabotaging his decisions.
Most politicians care about their self___ and want to be seen as important people, not pariahs.
Under such conditions, who was strong enough to resist? The same will be done to the next Republican president, if another ever gets elected and gets out of line.
What did Trump have to offer to those members of his administration who stuck by him? Shame, ignominy, ostracism. I believe Trump's enemies have a black list and those on that list will never have a moment's quiet for the rest of their lives. An example has to be made.
And, besides, the outcome of the elections was probably known in advance, among people who matter.
While Trump was president, what was the best way to stay in the good graces of the press and the bureaucracy? Criticizing Trump and his positions, saying that something he wanted done was impossible and harmful, sabotaging his decisions.
Most politicians care about their self___ and want to be seen as important people, not pariahs.
Under such conditions, who was strong enough to resist? The same will be done to the next Republican president, if another ever gets elected and gets out of line.
Posted by: PG at August 11, 2023 01:06 PM (84jHt)
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko stuff at August 11, 2023 01:06 PM (XiwRJ)
398
I guess I'll just write in My own name for President because it won't matter anyway
Posted by: It's me donna at August 11, 2023 01:03 PM (bs+z0)
You have my vote.
Posted by: It's me donna at August 11, 2023 01:03 PM (bs+z0)
You have my vote.
Posted by: ... at August 11, 2023 01:06 PM (QSXi6)
399
A guy who also says that there were no substantial voting irregularities in 2020?
I've seen discussion here which strongly suggests he didn't say exactly that, but rather simply acknowledged that Biden is president, like it or not. I haven't followed it closely enough to know, but do I think it's possible the press lied to put RDS in the worst possible light? You betcha.
I've seen discussion here which strongly suggests he didn't say exactly that, but rather simply acknowledged that Biden is president, like it or not. I haven't followed it closely enough to know, but do I think it's possible the press lied to put RDS in the worst possible light? You betcha.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 11, 2023 01:06 PM (eOEVl)
400
So you believe Biden got 81 Million votes and that no dems have fraudulently received votes since then?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 11, 2023 01:04 PM (Zz0t1)
No, this is the cultural argument. Trump is so vile that HE FORCED the left to cheat- and everyone went along with it only because Trump was so vile.
Desantis is not vile, so the Left will take their lumps and be prosecuted by his administration without using the same tactics they used against Trump because, not Trump.
It'll all be fine.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 11, 2023 01:04 PM (Zz0t1)
No, this is the cultural argument. Trump is so vile that HE FORCED the left to cheat- and everyone went along with it only because Trump was so vile.
Desantis is not vile, so the Left will take their lumps and be prosecuted by his administration without using the same tactics they used against Trump because, not Trump.
It'll all be fine.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 11, 2023 01:06 PM (zZu0s)
401
Imagine if the GOPe were powerless.
The machinery still works.
It's just that the GOP is the operator.
Posted by: Thesokorus
Speaking of machinery, the GOPe is like that guy that used the belt sander on his Sacagawea during lunch breaks, until he needed to go to the ER.
The machinery still works.
It's just that the GOP is the operator.
Posted by: Thesokorus
Speaking of machinery, the GOPe is like that guy that used the belt sander on his Sacagawea during lunch breaks, until he needed to go to the ER.
Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at August 11, 2023 01:06 PM (jSQ4p)
402
394 Donna for President, ‘24!
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 11, 2023 01:06 PM (xTRSc)
Thank you... Pretty sure I could do a better job then what we have now...
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 11, 2023 01:06 PM (xTRSc)
Thank you... Pretty sure I could do a better job then what we have now...
Posted by: It's me donna at August 11, 2023 01:06 PM (bs+z0)
403
Weiss has all the necessary powers to persecute Trump.
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 11, 2023 01:07 PM (lkmtx)
404
We should quite frankly be worrying about our local czars and state czars more as my guess is that might make a difference in Burning Times more than who is preezy.
Posted by: whig at August 11, 2023 01:00 PM (V+/H3)
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Pretty much. Red states well governed will be sanctuaries. Luckily I live in one.
Posted by: whig at August 11, 2023 01:00 PM (V+/H3)
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Pretty much. Red states well governed will be sanctuaries. Luckily I live in one.
Posted by: Black JEM at August 11, 2023 01:07 PM (UVyKP)
405
398 I guess I'll just write in My own name for President because it won't matter anyway
Posted by: It's me donna at August 11, 2023 01:03 PM (bs+z0)
You have my vote.
Posted by: ... at August 11, 2023 01:06 PM (QSXi6)
Dammit. I've already made up all these signs and started to work on a bumper sticker in Excel!
Posted by: It's me donna at August 11, 2023 01:03 PM (bs+z0)
You have my vote.
Posted by: ... at August 11, 2023 01:06 PM (QSXi6)
Dammit. I've already made up all these signs and started to work on a bumper sticker in Excel!
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 11, 2023 01:07 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 11, 2023 01:07 PM (lTGtQ)
Posted by: db at August 11, 2023 01:07 PM (wu87C)
408
Desantis is not vile, so the Left will take their lumps and be prosecuted by his administration without using the same tactics they used against Trump because, not Trump.
It'll all be fine.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 11, 2023 01:06 PM (zZu0s)
Oh...well that settles it.
*digs in the archive for the Kathy Griffin severed head image*
Desantis is not vile, so the Left will take their lumps and be prosecuted by his administration without using the same tactics they used against Trump because, not Trump.
It'll all be fine.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 11, 2023 01:06 PM (zZu0s)
Oh...well that settles it.
*digs in the archive for the Kathy Griffin severed head image*
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 11, 2023 01:08 PM (Zz0t1)
409
402 394 Donna for President, ‘24!
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 11, 2023 01:06 PM (xTRSc)
Thank you... Pretty sure I could do a better job then what we have now...
Posted by: It's me donna at August 11, 2023 01:06 PM (bs+z0)
*wipes away tear*
And we'll all be able to say we were here...
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 11, 2023 01:06 PM (xTRSc)
Thank you... Pretty sure I could do a better job then what we have now...
Posted by: It's me donna at August 11, 2023 01:06 PM (bs+z0)
*wipes away tear*
And we'll all be able to say we were here...
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 11, 2023 01:08 PM (zZu0s)
410
Rep. James Comer
@RepJamesComer
🚨STATEMENT🚨
This move by AG Garland is part of the Justice Department’s efforts to attempt a Biden family coverup in light of
@GOPoversight
's mounting evidence of President Biden’s role in his family’s schemes selling ‘the brand’ for millions of dollars to foreign nationals.
https://tinyurl.com/y6d7stkk
Rep. James Comer
@RepJamesComer
🚨STATEMENT🚨
This move by AG Garland is part of the Justice Department’s efforts to attempt a Biden family coverup in light of
@GOPoversight
's mounting evidence of President Biden’s role in his family’s schemes selling ‘the brand’ for millions of dollars to foreign nationals.
https://tinyurl.com/y6d7stkk
Posted by: redridinghood at August 11, 2023 01:08 PM (NpAcC)
411
I don't see any of DeSantis' picks going rogue and undermining his agenda. They all seem to advance the agenda, almost like he's an in-charge executive who keeps an eye on his subordinates and also knows enough to know who is with him and who is against him.
Posted by: ace at August 11, 2023 12:48 PM (KRtlO)
Ace, as an OnlyTrumper I'm happy to concede this point.
https://is.gd/5l4lWB
This is a PDF from DeSantis' office, outlining his executive staff. Let's assume that all these people will go to DC in a Heavy D administration. Just taking a cursory glance at the list, there are a *lot* of positions in DC that aren't covered by these loyalists. Defense. Treasury. DNI. etc. etc. etc.
What makes you think that he can find loyalists that will run those organizations, and get better results than Trump? By the way, this is a problem with THE ENTIRE GOP. There are no people that can staff these positions successfully.
Posted by: ace at August 11, 2023 12:48 PM (KRtlO)
Ace, as an OnlyTrumper I'm happy to concede this point.
https://is.gd/5l4lWB
This is a PDF from DeSantis' office, outlining his executive staff. Let's assume that all these people will go to DC in a Heavy D administration. Just taking a cursory glance at the list, there are a *lot* of positions in DC that aren't covered by these loyalists. Defense. Treasury. DNI. etc. etc. etc.
What makes you think that he can find loyalists that will run those organizations, and get better results than Trump? By the way, this is a problem with THE ENTIRE GOP. There are no people that can staff these positions successfully.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 11, 2023 01:08 PM (/iWhV)
412
Not sure if arguing with me or using my point to make yours.
Either way, I'll vote for Trump or DeSantis. My original point is that establishment GOPers losing their races is no big loss.
I don't know either. What I do know is I have no patience for the Eeyores.
Either way, I'll vote for Trump or DeSantis. My original point is that establishment GOPers losing their races is no big loss.
I don't know either. What I do know is I have no patience for the Eeyores.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 11, 2023 01:08 PM (eOEVl)
413
Thank you... Pretty sure I could do a better job then what we have now...
Posted by: It's me donna at August 11, 2023 01:06 PM (bs+z0)
Take my money! PLEASE!
Thank you... Pretty sure I could do a better job then what we have now...
Posted by: It's me donna at August 11, 2023 01:06 PM (bs+z0)
Take my money! PLEASE!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 11, 2023 01:08 PM (Zz0t1)
414
Yes, usually I don't assign malintent where simple stupidity works as an explanation, particularly when it comes to the federal government, but it is hard to dismiss SecDef Miller's actions laid out above as stupidity. That seems to be the best thread to continue pulling.
Posted by: Milquetoast Mortgage-Paying Neighbor in Flyover Country at August 11, 2023 01:08 PM (5C4od)
415
390 leadership. Is Trump a poor leader then? Then why do you want him to end up in the same place with the same actor's ? To fail again? What do smart people say about insanity ? Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
Posted by: runner at August 11, 2023 01:05 PM (haV5y)
========
I don't expect anyone to keep straight my positions, but I'm planning on voting for DeSantis in the SC primary.
However, I know that if, somehow, DeSantis gets to the presidency and he tries to, say, build a border wall, the guys who run Senate funds will make sure that not enough Republicans support the measure in Congress to make it actually happen. Trump was running rallies with tens of thousands of people cheering him on, and it did nothing to change these people's opinions. I'm unclear what DeSantis could do. He's already modifying his positions based on donor feedback, especially after his campaign shakeup.
The only real solution, without burning things down, is to create a separate funding source for Congress to rely on that isn't in the hands of the uniparty.
Posted by: runner at August 11, 2023 01:05 PM (haV5y)
========
I don't expect anyone to keep straight my positions, but I'm planning on voting for DeSantis in the SC primary.
However, I know that if, somehow, DeSantis gets to the presidency and he tries to, say, build a border wall, the guys who run Senate funds will make sure that not enough Republicans support the measure in Congress to make it actually happen. Trump was running rallies with tens of thousands of people cheering him on, and it did nothing to change these people's opinions. I'm unclear what DeSantis could do. He's already modifying his positions based on donor feedback, especially after his campaign shakeup.
The only real solution, without burning things down, is to create a separate funding source for Congress to rely on that isn't in the hands of the uniparty.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 11, 2023 01:08 PM (LvTSG)
416
@357
Now that's a contrast! Think how effective Jeff Sessions was as AG for Trump (LMAO), now compare to how effective Garland has been for Biden.
Now that's a contrast! Think how effective Jeff Sessions was as AG for Trump (LMAO), now compare to how effective Garland has been for Biden.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at August 11, 2023 01:08 PM (ssESX)
417
*makes international sign of the doughnut*
Posted by: ack
Speaking of doughnuts . . .
https://tinyurl.com/yckj7njd
Posted by: ack
Speaking of doughnuts . . .
https://tinyurl.com/yckj7njd
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 11, 2023 01:08 PM (FVME7)
418
Interesting theory. Not remotely plausible.
Posted by: ... at August 11, 2023 01:05 PM (QSXi6)
There was definitely a charm offensive in early days. Trump was Gung ho to "get something done" with any Democrat who would listen. I think Pelosi and Schumer, if memory serves, were willing to play along. And then.... and then.... i guess one day It Was Decided that OrangeManBad, and all the pear-shaped Gerontocrats snapped into alignment with the applied external field and then... kerplooey.
Posted by: ... at August 11, 2023 01:05 PM (QSXi6)
There was definitely a charm offensive in early days. Trump was Gung ho to "get something done" with any Democrat who would listen. I think Pelosi and Schumer, if memory serves, were willing to play along. And then.... and then.... i guess one day It Was Decided that OrangeManBad, and all the pear-shaped Gerontocrats snapped into alignment with the applied external field and then... kerplooey.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 11, 2023 01:09 PM (9UlRk)
419
After doing it to the Bushes, to McCain, to Romney, to Ryan, to every prominent Republican I can think of, they just decided this time to not bother trying to buy off Trump. Even though it didn't even cost money, just compliments and being nice?
—
Dems we’re friend lay with the Bushes? The guy they called Hitler McChimp Bush the war criminal? Ryan, they guy they made commercials showing him literally throwing grandma off a cliff? That's being friendly?
You have an interesting historical take on things.
—
Dems we’re friend lay with the Bushes? The guy they called Hitler McChimp Bush the war criminal? Ryan, they guy they made commercials showing him literally throwing grandma off a cliff? That's being friendly?
You have an interesting historical take on things.
Posted by: Montec at August 11, 2023 01:09 PM (yx8Q1)
420
What makes you think that he can find loyalists that will run those organizations, and get better results than Trump?
He won't be letting Jared and Ivanka vet his nominees?
He won't be letting Jared and Ivanka vet his nominees?
Posted by: Ian S. at August 11, 2023 01:09 PM (2ocoG)
421
I'm trying to remember AoS Kraut 101. When you see Jack Smith, what is the word for deserving a punch in the face?
Backpheifenn ge something?
Backpheifenn ge something?
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at August 11, 2023 01:09 PM (0EOe9)
422
this insulting special counsel thing means Mrs Luntz HAS TO START IMPEACHMENT SOONEST
enough !!!
enough !!!
Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 11, 2023 01:09 PM (AcWfM)
423
Watched those b*stards create riots - or fracases soon afterwards claimed to be riots - decades ago, and then more recently. They've used psychology, including fear, and repetition quite well.
Even now, I have my doubts having a person or persons critically injured or dying as a result was planned or desired, whether Charlottesville, St. John's Church, the Capitol or others, but control and putting the hurt on the competition is.
Glad you're more open to some possibilities.
Even now, I have my doubts having a person or persons critically injured or dying as a result was planned or desired, whether Charlottesville, St. John's Church, the Capitol or others, but control and putting the hurt on the competition is.
Glad you're more open to some possibilities.
Posted by: L - Practice makes perfect. They know their enemy at August 11, 2023 01:09 PM (GshMh)
424
I don't get my news from Fox.
I do monitor state propaganda on Fox.
I try to do it on CNN too but it's unbearable
I do monitor state propaganda on Fox.
I try to do it on CNN too but it's unbearable
Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 11, 2023 01:09 PM (JvZF+)
425
This Milley guy, ugh.
Where did he come from?
It's like he was designed in a Chinese Lab to destroy America. Just like COVID.
Posted by: naturalfake at August 11, 2023 01:04 PM
In all seriousness, if you look at Milley's career, he's much like Obama. Serious questions about what he actually ever did. Most of his awards are dubious, at best.
Where did he come from?
It's like he was designed in a Chinese Lab to destroy America. Just like COVID.
Posted by: naturalfake at August 11, 2023 01:04 PM
In all seriousness, if you look at Milley's career, he's much like Obama. Serious questions about what he actually ever did. Most of his awards are dubious, at best.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 11, 2023 01:09 PM (a3Q+t)
426
100%
All Dems had to do was be friendly with Trump, say a few nice things about him and talk about working together. He would have signed any bill Pelosi sent him.
Posted by: Montec at August 11, 2023 01:01 PM (yx8Q1)
His comments about Gavin Newsome somewhat supports this theory.
All Dems had to do was be friendly with Trump, say a few nice things about him and talk about working together. He would have signed any bill Pelosi sent him.
Posted by: Montec at August 11, 2023 01:01 PM (yx8Q1)
His comments about Gavin Newsome somewhat supports this theory.
Posted by: polynikes at August 11, 2023 01:09 PM (MNhXM)
427
And willowed
Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 11, 2023 01:10 PM (JvZF+)
428
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 11, 2023 01:07 PM (zZu0s)
Damn I didn't know. Maybe she will make you her Secretary of Domestic War.
"But there is no Secretary of Domestic War."
donna: "There is now."
Damn I didn't know. Maybe she will make you her Secretary of Domestic War.
"But there is no Secretary of Domestic War."
donna: "There is now."
Posted by: ... at August 11, 2023 01:10 PM (QSXi6)
429
You've all been willowed
Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 11, 2023 01:10 PM (JvZF+)
430
They threw 2016 too but Trump won anyway.
And it pays to note they threw 2008 and 2012.
Posted by: ... at August 11, 2023 01:00 PM (QSXi6)
TRUTH!
Posted by: Thesokorus
Actually Obama wae popular
And it pays to note they threw 2008 and 2012.
Posted by: ... at August 11, 2023 01:00 PM (QSXi6)
TRUTH!
Posted by: Thesokorus
Actually Obama wae popular
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at August 11, 2023 01:10 PM (ga8qR)
431
The cabal doesn't intend to ever allow us to win no matter who we put up.
They will burn the country down first.
But he's not enough. No one is.
Posted by: Just Lily
---------
Cabal doesn't really have as much say as each thing they do actually undermines their own power by killing the belief in institutions. There is no one big enough even the bankerz etc. to bail us out or to feed the world if we go to shit. We will have a financial crash, probably epic, that will last at least one generation. We may lose a war or two with high casualties unseen since Korea and Vietnam, and we will have cities becoming no-go zones. Pretty much baked into the cake at this time.
Cabal will fall from within just like the old Sov Union when not enough people in that country believed in it anymore. Still did not prevent really hard times in the Soviet Union and a lot of brushwars around the perimeter killing a bunch of people.
They will burn the country down first.
But he's not enough. No one is.
Posted by: Just Lily
---------
Cabal doesn't really have as much say as each thing they do actually undermines their own power by killing the belief in institutions. There is no one big enough even the bankerz etc. to bail us out or to feed the world if we go to shit. We will have a financial crash, probably epic, that will last at least one generation. We may lose a war or two with high casualties unseen since Korea and Vietnam, and we will have cities becoming no-go zones. Pretty much baked into the cake at this time.
Cabal will fall from within just like the old Sov Union when not enough people in that country believed in it anymore. Still did not prevent really hard times in the Soviet Union and a lot of brushwars around the perimeter killing a bunch of people.
Posted by: whig at August 11, 2023 01:10 PM (V+/H3)
432
Counterpoint: And yet they are speaker of house, sec Def, and joint chiefs chairman. They have demonstrated sufficient acumen to get where they got.No?
As appalling as it is, we have to face it.
Posted by: Simplemind at August 11, 2023 12:53 PM (aMvxn)
Our democracy is so vulnerable that a few people parading through the halls of Congress almost upset it entirely.
You'd think that if that were the case, they'd go into overkill to protect it.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 11, 2023 12:56 PM (KbCG3)
==
It works only as long as everyone agrees to abide by the rules, the unwritten rules of decorum. What we are seeing is a group has decided if they just ignore the rules, no one will stop it.
As appalling as it is, we have to face it.
Posted by: Simplemind at August 11, 2023 12:53 PM (aMvxn)
Our democracy is so vulnerable that a few people parading through the halls of Congress almost upset it entirely.
You'd think that if that were the case, they'd go into overkill to protect it.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 11, 2023 12:56 PM (KbCG3)
==
It works only as long as everyone agrees to abide by the rules, the unwritten rules of decorum. What we are seeing is a group has decided if they just ignore the rules, no one will stop it.
Posted by: Black JEM at August 11, 2023 01:10 PM (UVyKP)
433
NOOD
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 11, 2023 01:10 PM (xTRSc)
434
May as well ask the sun to stop shining or the grass to stop growing.
Posted by: ...
Not to beat a dead horse, but, seriously, Nikki Haley = Cruz?
I've never seen one person cape for Haley. No one here, I mean no one here, thinks she anything other than a deep state, GOPe, scum bag, turn coat fraud.
Posted by: ...
Not to beat a dead horse, but, seriously, Nikki Haley = Cruz?
I've never seen one person cape for Haley. No one here, I mean no one here, thinks she anything other than a deep state, GOPe, scum bag, turn coat fraud.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 11, 2023 01:10 PM (IG4Id)
435
"I have noticed that this paradigm holds great sway among some."
I'm not going to focus on the times Trump got it wrong, because it's like yelling expletives at the field artillery officer who's hit the trees and not the enemy troops. Hopefully, there's still time to correct angle.
The important thing is to keep the main thing the main thing.
I'm not going to focus on the times Trump got it wrong, because it's like yelling expletives at the field artillery officer who's hit the trees and not the enemy troops. Hopefully, there's still time to correct angle.
The important thing is to keep the main thing the main thing.
Posted by: Ju at August 11, 2023 01:10 PM (aTmM/)
436
I'm not sure it's such a great buy.
James O'Keefe
@JamesOKeefeIII
OMG EXCLUSIVE: Second whistleblower reveals that @BestBuy discriminates against religions. Geek Squad member has audio proof that the company refuses to allow Christian employees to display crosses while requiring them to attend LGBTQ workshops.
James O'Keefe
@JamesOKeefeIII
OMG EXCLUSIVE: Second whistleblower reveals that @BestBuy discriminates against religions. Geek Squad member has audio proof that the company refuses to allow Christian employees to display crosses while requiring them to attend LGBTQ workshops.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 11, 2023 01:10 PM (FVME7)
437
This move by AG Garland is part of the Justice Department’s efforts to attempt a Biden family coverup in light of @GOPoversight's mounting evidence of President Biden’s role in his family’s schemes selling ‘the brand’ for millions of dollars to foreign nationals.
____
Of course it is. You think we're stupid? Now we put the stamp of officiality on our FYNQ responses.
____
Of course it is. You think we're stupid? Now we put the stamp of officiality on our FYNQ responses.
Posted by: Merrick Garland at August 11, 2023 01:11 PM (fs1hN)
438
399 A guy who also says that there were no substantial voting irregularities in 2020?
I've seen discussion here which strongly suggests he didn't say exactly that, but rather simply acknowledged that Biden is president, like it or not. I haven't followed it closely enough to know, but do I think it's possible the press lied to put RDS in the worst possible light? You betcha.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 11, 2023 01:06 PM (eOEVl)
_______________
RDS's actual words are available online. Yes, what he actually said was more nuanced than "of course Trump lost," but it was still an unforced error for an obvious question. RDS said "of course" Trump lost, then backtracked to suggest it was because of unfairness, and then backtracked again to say it was all Trump's fault anyway. Not his finest moment.
I've seen discussion here which strongly suggests he didn't say exactly that, but rather simply acknowledged that Biden is president, like it or not. I haven't followed it closely enough to know, but do I think it's possible the press lied to put RDS in the worst possible light? You betcha.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 11, 2023 01:06 PM (eOEVl)
_______________
RDS's actual words are available online. Yes, what he actually said was more nuanced than "of course Trump lost," but it was still an unforced error for an obvious question. RDS said "of course" Trump lost, then backtracked to suggest it was because of unfairness, and then backtracked again to say it was all Trump's fault anyway. Not his finest moment.
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 11, 2023 01:11 PM (iFTx/)
439
NOOD - Electrity supply woes in Gavin's state
Posted by: Gref at August 11, 2023 01:11 PM (AMIL/)
440
I don't see any of DeSantis' picks going rogue and undermining his agenda. They all seem to advance the agenda, almost like he's an in-charge executive who keeps an eye on his subordinates and also knows enough to know who is with him and who is against him.
Posted by: ace
___
It's basic competence.
And its really obvious Trump hasn't learned his lesson. I would argue the people in his circle now are even more incompetent. It's just bottom barrel lackeys.
We can laugh and say its no big deal, but the fact that Trumps legal team to fight the voter fraud showed up at a landscaper's business to do a press conference (that was also called the 4 Seasons) really shows that his campaign has no hope of even doing basic things correctly and fighting what's coming. All of this while Trump was playing golf instead of being in a War Room.
A guy on a microphone ranting (on his own website) is not the same as governing. But that seems to be what our side wants right now.
Posted by: ace
___
It's basic competence.
And its really obvious Trump hasn't learned his lesson. I would argue the people in his circle now are even more incompetent. It's just bottom barrel lackeys.
We can laugh and say its no big deal, but the fact that Trumps legal team to fight the voter fraud showed up at a landscaper's business to do a press conference (that was also called the 4 Seasons) really shows that his campaign has no hope of even doing basic things correctly and fighting what's coming. All of this while Trump was playing golf instead of being in a War Room.
A guy on a microphone ranting (on his own website) is not the same as governing. But that seems to be what our side wants right now.
Posted by: Blago at August 11, 2023 01:11 PM (FT0bB)
441
In Charlottesville, the police were deliberately kept away from a violence prevention mode, and instead marchers were ferried towards counterprotestors.
Posted by: MikeN at August 11, 2023 01:11 PM (XygMV)
442
Donna can rest assured that she has President Waraiotoko's vote.
*satraps and viziers frantically whisper into President Waraiotoko's ear*
What? Oh, shut up. What do you goofballs know?
*satraps and viziers frantically whisper into President Waraiotoko's ear*
What? Oh, shut up. What do you goofballs know?
Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 11, 2023 01:11 PM (9UlRk)
443
What makes you think that he can find loyalists that will run those organizations, and get better results than Trump? By the way, this is a problem with THE ENTIRE GOP. There are no people that can staff these positions successfully.
Posted by: Darrell Harris
Doesn't every cabinet pick have to be confirmed by the Senate?
Now, deal with a hostile senate.
Posted by: Darrell Harris
Doesn't every cabinet pick have to be confirmed by the Senate?
Now, deal with a hostile senate.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 11, 2023 01:11 PM (nW4TA)
444
The best doughnuts are the ones that can take a licking and keep on sticking.
Posted by: Ariana Grande at August 11, 2023 01:12 PM (a3Q+t)
445
Actually Obama wae popular
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at August 11, 2023 01:10 PM (ga8qR)
Lol. Sure. The GOP ensured his victory via running a stiff and colluding on fraud.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at August 11, 2023 01:10 PM (ga8qR)
Lol. Sure. The GOP ensured his victory via running a stiff and colluding on fraud.
Posted by: Thesokorus at August 11, 2023 01:12 PM (X1EMB)
446
383 And they're just too stupid to know that?
Trump could have been their puppet but they were too blind to see it?
After doing it to the Bushes, to McCain, to Romney, to Ryan, to every prominent Republican I can think of, they just decided this time to not bother trying to buy off Trump. Even though it didn't even cost money, just compliments and being nice?
Interesting theory. Not remotely plausible.
Posted by: ... at August 11, 2023 01:05 PM (QSXi6)
That people who think themselves the upper crust elite were too disgusted by the idea of complimenting what they saw as a crude fat orange loudmouth?
They're so full of themselves that yes, it does seem plausible.
Trump could have been their puppet but they were too blind to see it?
After doing it to the Bushes, to McCain, to Romney, to Ryan, to every prominent Republican I can think of, they just decided this time to not bother trying to buy off Trump. Even though it didn't even cost money, just compliments and being nice?
Interesting theory. Not remotely plausible.
Posted by: ... at August 11, 2023 01:05 PM (QSXi6)
That people who think themselves the upper crust elite were too disgusted by the idea of complimenting what they saw as a crude fat orange loudmouth?
They're so full of themselves that yes, it does seem plausible.
Posted by: XTC at August 11, 2023 01:12 PM (UnA8+)
447
I always thought that destroying evidence was a felony.
Of course, so is insider trading.
Posted by: Thomas Paine
Crime? Crime? There is crime going on in the Capitol?
Well, I'm shocked! Shocked!
Of course, so is insider trading.
Posted by: Thomas Paine
Crime? Crime? There is crime going on in the Capitol?
Well, I'm shocked! Shocked!
Posted by: Captain Louis Renault at August 11, 2023 01:12 PM (vcOmj)
448
If Hiillary had won, we never would have heard of this thing called Covid.
Posted by: boot55555 at August 11, 2023 01:12 PM (VXr/k)
449
The AlwaysTrunp case boils down to Two things
1. RDS is a secret RINO and will betray you and
2. Forget what happened the first admin. This time he really means it and will do what he promised.
1. RDS is a secret RINO and will betray you and
2. Forget what happened the first admin. This time he really means it and will do what he promised.
Posted by: Montec at August 11, 2023 01:12 PM (yx8Q1)
450
Dems we’re friend lay with the Bushes? The guy they called Hitler McChimp Bush the war criminal? Ryan, they guy they made commercials showing him literally throwing grandma off a cliff? That's being friendly?
You have an interesting historical take on things.
Posted by: Montec at August 11, 2023 01:09 PM (yx8Q1)
Huh? I didn't say they were friendly with them. I said they made them their puppets. If it was so easy with Trump, why didn't they do it? I submit to you they tried many different ways and failed.
Take a look at Bush II's second term. Could have been any Democrat with what he gave to that Congress.
You have an interesting historical take on things.
Posted by: Montec at August 11, 2023 01:09 PM (yx8Q1)
Huh? I didn't say they were friendly with them. I said they made them their puppets. If it was so easy with Trump, why didn't they do it? I submit to you they tried many different ways and failed.
Take a look at Bush II's second term. Could have been any Democrat with what he gave to that Congress.
Posted by: ... at August 11, 2023 01:12 PM (QSXi6)
451
The security footage of "protesters" on the inside of the building trying to open locked doors, then waving to the cameras and gesturing to the doors which then immediately become unlocked is QUITE damning.
Posted by: Mike in the Hinterlands at August 11, 2023 01:12 PM (GFXvD)
452
Now, deal with a hostile senate.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 11, 2023 01:11 PM (nW4TA)
And one that won't recess to allow DJT to appoint ppl.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 11, 2023 01:11 PM (nW4TA)
And one that won't recess to allow DJT to appoint ppl.
Posted by: Thesokorus at August 11, 2023 01:12 PM (X1EMB)
453
16...Imagine if J6 turned out to be the truly deadly bloodbath they wanted it to be . . . .
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 11, 2023 12:13 PM (iFTx/)
For one, this forum would no longer exist.
[types]
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Posted by: Elric Blade at August 11, 2023 12:13 PM (iFTx/)
For one, this forum would no longer exist.
[types]
[deletes]
Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at August 11, 2023 01:13 PM (Rbu5d)
454
I liked Trump's first term until the preprogrammed Black Swan. Are we now pretending it was a bad term?
Posted by: ... at August 11, 2023 01:14 PM (QSXi6)
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[note to self: Things are coming along nicely. There are rifts and despair among conservatives. They are disoriented, quarreling among themselves, disunited. We have nothing to fear from them at all. They are completely distracted by themselves.]
[note to self: Things are coming along nicely. There are rifts and despair among conservatives. They are disoriented, quarreling among themselves, disunited. We have nothing to fear from them at all. They are completely distracted by themselves.]
Posted by: DC Oligarchs at August 11, 2023 01:15 PM (3bqKz)
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Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 11, 2023 01:10 PM (IG4Id)
There were a fair number of people here fronting for Haley when she had fallen in line with her UN stuff under Trump. Murmurs of 2024 as well. I'm not making it up but I'm also gonna be honest and say I don't care if you believe me.
There were a fair number of people here fronting for Haley when she had fallen in line with her UN stuff under Trump. Murmurs of 2024 as well. I'm not making it up but I'm also gonna be honest and say I don't care if you believe me.
Posted by: ... at August 11, 2023 01:16 PM (QSXi6)
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386 What about Rex Tillerson? He wasn’t from the DC swamp, right? But he didn’t work out, either. (I forget exactly what it was that got him canned, though.)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 11, 2023 12:56 PM (xTRSc
He was the former Eagle Scout and great American blah blah blah who Trump praised to the heavens. He was an asshole who apparently also secretly despised Trump.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 11, 2023 12:56 PM (xTRSc
He was the former Eagle Scout and great American blah blah blah who Trump praised to the heavens. He was an asshole who apparently also secretly despised Trump.
Posted by: Ordinary American at August 11, 2023 01:16 PM (PuJDY)
Posted by: F.I.B. militarized SWAT Team at August 11, 2023 01:16 PM (krqg6)
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Take a look at Bush II's second term. Could have been any Democrat with what he gave to that Congress.
Posted by: ...
Yes, and Bush revealed who he was during that term. The one time that Al Sharpton was ever right in his life was his "stay out of the Bushes" warning.
Posted by: ...
Yes, and Bush revealed who he was during that term. The one time that Al Sharpton was ever right in his life was his "stay out of the Bushes" warning.
Posted by: whig at August 11, 2023 01:18 PM (V+/H3)
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I liked Trump's first term until the preprogrammed Black Swan. Are we now pretending it was a bad term?
Posted by: ...
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Policy wise, not many complaints.
But definitely fucked up how he handled Russia bullshit. Like asking Comey to stay on that led to much of it. He should have just fired a bunch of these clowns and dared the Congress to impeach him. Republicans probably would have done better in the midterms had Dems threatened impeachment early.
With Covid, Trump governed like a liberal Democrat. Endless bailouts and subsidies. Going along with lockdown policies, even blasting Governors that opened up "early".
Trump's is just not a good executive is 90% of it. Managing a real estate empire your family left you in a trust is not the same as being President. Trump is used to everyone bending to his will because he signed all of their checks.
Posted by: ...
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Policy wise, not many complaints.
But definitely fucked up how he handled Russia bullshit. Like asking Comey to stay on that led to much of it. He should have just fired a bunch of these clowns and dared the Congress to impeach him. Republicans probably would have done better in the midterms had Dems threatened impeachment early.
With Covid, Trump governed like a liberal Democrat. Endless bailouts and subsidies. Going along with lockdown policies, even blasting Governors that opened up "early".
Trump's is just not a good executive is 90% of it. Managing a real estate empire your family left you in a trust is not the same as being President. Trump is used to everyone bending to his will because he signed all of their checks.
Posted by: Blago at August 11, 2023 01:19 PM (FT0bB)
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RDS's actual words are available online. Yes, what he actually said was more nuanced than "of course Trump lost," but it was still an unforced error for an obvious question. RDS said "of course" Trump lost, then backtracked to suggest it was because of unfairness, and then backtracked again to say it was all Trump's fault anyway. Not his finest moment.
I rate this as plausible.
I rate this as plausible.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 11, 2023 01:19 PM (eOEVl)
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@454 How do we get the legislature to legislate again? It seem like the POTUS can only get the bullet points of their agenda accomplished through executive orders. EOs only have that effect because the federal goverment is overgrown to thr point where it's claws are in every aspect of our lives.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at August 11, 2023 01:19 PM (ssESX)
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Since the Attorney General of the United States has appointed a special prosecutor to look into Hunter Biden, I see no reason to move forward on impeachment proceedings.
Posted by: Kevin McCarthy at August 11, 2023 01:19 PM (v/NKn)
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TYPOS! 🤬
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at August 11, 2023 01:20 PM (ssESX)
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None of these things would have happened, much less discussed, if the Wuhan Flu hadn't been released.
Posted by: mrp at August 11, 2023 01:22 PM (rj6Yv)
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Why hasn’t McCarthy released the videos?
And did this Sund say who gave the order to open the doors? Did Tucker ask that question?
And did this Sund say who gave the order to open the doors? Did Tucker ask that question?
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at August 11, 2023 01:23 PM (/A6QO)
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the rules...disarming the national gaurd etal, were not to "encourage" Trump folks to be violent, they NEVER had been before.
They were to ensure that the antifa/Blm mobs, already gathering, could NOT be stopped from being violent...which they ALWAYS had been before.
If you recall, the day before the Rally on the 6th, there was plenty of live video footage of the gathered mobs at "Freedom Plaza" BLM street, and attacks upon Maga folks that tried to walk through there. Including a uniformed security officer, prison guard, or some such thing breaking the nose of a female Maga lady. Many of the "warnings about Violence" the feds and military received were indications that violence would be coming FROM the Antifa side, and that "Defensive" maga groups were planning to "resist" it and protect those being attacked.
I'd like to see a breakdown and map of just how many permits were granted, to which groups, and in which specific locations in the days/weeks leading up to Jan 6. IIRC Maga groups had numerous permits, BLM/Antifa had none, but had advance notice of where and when Maga groups would be gathering and "Took over the spaces" or massed nearby to attack them.
They were to ensure that the antifa/Blm mobs, already gathering, could NOT be stopped from being violent...which they ALWAYS had been before.
If you recall, the day before the Rally on the 6th, there was plenty of live video footage of the gathered mobs at "Freedom Plaza" BLM street, and attacks upon Maga folks that tried to walk through there. Including a uniformed security officer, prison guard, or some such thing breaking the nose of a female Maga lady. Many of the "warnings about Violence" the feds and military received were indications that violence would be coming FROM the Antifa side, and that "Defensive" maga groups were planning to "resist" it and protect those being attacked.
I'd like to see a breakdown and map of just how many permits were granted, to which groups, and in which specific locations in the days/weeks leading up to Jan 6. IIRC Maga groups had numerous permits, BLM/Antifa had none, but had advance notice of where and when Maga groups would be gathering and "Took over the spaces" or massed nearby to attack them.
Posted by: birddog at August 11, 2023 01:25 PM (1E8/t)
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None of these things would have happened, much less discussed, if the Wuhan Flu hadn't been released.
Posted by: mrp
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Had Covid never happened, Trump would have probably been reelected.
Had the mortgage meltdown not happened and the Iraq War not been such a cluster, Obama would have probably lost.
On and on, but it is what it is.
Posted by: mrp
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Had Covid never happened, Trump would have probably been reelected.
Had the mortgage meltdown not happened and the Iraq War not been such a cluster, Obama would have probably lost.
On and on, but it is what it is.
Posted by: Blago at August 11, 2023 01:26 PM (FT0bB)
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Ace should have known when you throw out criticisms of the Great One the terriers will latch on and not let it go.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at August 11, 2023 12:41 PM
What does Mark Levin have to do with any of this?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 11, 2023 12:45 PM (Zz0t1)
I think you're a bit confused.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at August 11, 2023 12:41 PM
What does Mark Levin have to do with any of this?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 11, 2023 12:45 PM (Zz0t1)
I think you're a bit confused.
Posted by: Jackie Gleason at August 11, 2023 01:26 PM (Angsy)
470
Find 10 honest men and women in DC. And.....you can't.
Posted by: Barnacle Bill the sailor at August 11, 2023 12:48 PM (vcOmj)
That bodes ill, doesn't it?
Posted by: Moki at August 11, 2023 01:04 PM (JrN/x)
Packing here, boss.
Posted by: Barnacle Bill the sailor at August 11, 2023 12:48 PM (vcOmj)
That bodes ill, doesn't it?
Posted by: Moki at August 11, 2023 01:04 PM (JrN/x)
Packing here, boss.
Posted by: Lot at August 11, 2023 01:28 PM (Angsy)
471
470 Packing here, boss.
Posted by: Lot at August 11, 2023 01:28 PM (Angsy)
You think you're gonna need this salt pillar?
Posted by: Lot at August 11, 2023 01:28 PM (Angsy)
You think you're gonna need this salt pillar?
Posted by: XTC at August 11, 2023 01:30 PM (UnA8+)
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Of course the vast majority of those around and even inside the Capitol on J6 were peacefully protesting. But on a factual level, I would actually like to see a reconstruction if the extent of actual "violence" by the crowd, where exactly it occurred and when.
For example, the left makes so much of the "signs" saying the whole area was restricted. But after a few protesters (or Antifa infiltrators, or FBI paid embeds) remove the first barricade with its sign, how is everyone or anyone at street level in the crowd behind them supposed to know it was there?
For example, the left makes so much of the "signs" saying the whole area was restricted. But after a few protesters (or Antifa infiltrators, or FBI paid embeds) remove the first barricade with its sign, how is everyone or anyone at street level in the crowd behind them supposed to know it was there?
Posted by: Zek at August 11, 2023 01:56 PM (5FPX4)
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"I'm not convinced that Pelosi, Milley, and Miller schemed to make this happen just to destroy MAGA."
They didn't. They did it to create an emergency which would enable them to stop the certification of the election before anyone could make any motions regarding the election. Once the emergency was declared all motions were not addressed. When they recommenced that evening, no motions were allowed.
The purpose of J6 was to stop any motion in the Senate to prevent the certification in favor of Biden. There were several Republicans including Cruz who had promised to support motions regarding the validity of the election and the electors sent from the states. The chance for a real investigation of the election and the potential to overturn the fraudulent election were lost once Nancy, Mitch and Pence declared an emergency.
The ability to arrest MAGA and paint Trump and MAGA as insurrectionists was also obvious very useful to them but the purpose was to prevent any real legal challenge to the certification of the election.
They didn't. They did it to create an emergency which would enable them to stop the certification of the election before anyone could make any motions regarding the election. Once the emergency was declared all motions were not addressed. When they recommenced that evening, no motions were allowed.
The purpose of J6 was to stop any motion in the Senate to prevent the certification in favor of Biden. There were several Republicans including Cruz who had promised to support motions regarding the validity of the election and the electors sent from the states. The chance for a real investigation of the election and the potential to overturn the fraudulent election were lost once Nancy, Mitch and Pence declared an emergency.
The ability to arrest MAGA and paint Trump and MAGA as insurrectionists was also obvious very useful to them but the purpose was to prevent any real legal challenge to the certification of the election.
Posted by: Botched_Lobotomy at August 11, 2023 02:24 PM (WiAW9)
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I think Botched Lobotomy makes some excellent points. Tarnishing or destroying MAGA was just frosting on the cake for these mendacious bastards. The people had to be brought to heel no matter the costs. Mission accomplished.
Posted by: NAB at August 11, 2023 02:41 PM (3sHsl)
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Ace, I have information on this topic if you contact me.
Josh
Josh
Posted by: LiveFreeOrDie at August 11, 2023 05:28 PM (X8Vz2)
476
257 "The reason is because people from Wyoming Oklahoma aren’t the cool kids and Trump only likes to hang with the cool beautiful people.
Posted by: Montec at August 11, 2023 12:49 PM (yx8Q1)"
Not at all. The first year nobody wanted to work with him so, as Bannon outlines, they made a 'drug deal' with the RNC to fill staff. You can blame Trump if someone comes in a full stage actor if you want; I blame them for their inauthenticity.
By the end Trump was picking good guys like Kash Patel, Grenell, et al. Don't forget the two most important guys: Wilbur Ross and Bob Lighthizer who gave you much including 10s of thousands of de-regulations and the Tax Cut and Jobs Act reducing the highest corp tax rate in the world(39%) to 21% which is keeping us afloat today.
Posted by: Montec at August 11, 2023 12:49 PM (yx8Q1)"
Not at all. The first year nobody wanted to work with him so, as Bannon outlines, they made a 'drug deal' with the RNC to fill staff. You can blame Trump if someone comes in a full stage actor if you want; I blame them for their inauthenticity.
By the end Trump was picking good guys like Kash Patel, Grenell, et al. Don't forget the two most important guys: Wilbur Ross and Bob Lighthizer who gave you much including 10s of thousands of de-regulations and the Tax Cut and Jobs Act reducing the highest corp tax rate in the world(39%) to 21% which is keeping us afloat today.
Posted by: Danimal28 at August 11, 2023 10:29 PM (ryUqI)
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Careful Ace. You are just now validating things Sundance was covering two years ago, buddy. i get your trepidation and hope you now understand these people in the bureaucracy - both parties - are capable of anything. After all, they specialize in color revolutions in other country's... Hell, Jonah! was on today telling us how evil 'small donors' are because they don't pay him like the 'smart' big donors are...
In 2012 Sundance was uncovering the fake news on Trayvon Martin way ahead of anyone else...
In 2012 Sundance was uncovering the fake news on Trayvon Martin way ahead of anyone else...
Posted by: Danimal28 at August 11, 2023 10:35 PM (ryUqI)
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