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Bad Guy Killed By Good Woman With a Gun

A thug held a gun to her husband's head.

That was the last violent, feral act he committed or will ever commit.

It was a quiet Monday afternoon for a couple in Salem, Indiana, at least until a man drove his car into a couple's yard and threatened the homeowner with a firearm.

According to the Indiana State Police, that man was saved thanks to the quick response from his wife, who spotted what was going on while still inside the family's home.


Police said officers found Michael Chastain in the front yard with a gunshot wound. He was taken to Saint Vincent Hospital in Salem, where he was pronounced dead.

According to a news release Tuesday, the incident started when Chastain drove through the front yard, grabbed the homeowner, forced him to the ground and pointed a gun at his head. The homeowner's wife saw it happen and shot Chastain with her handgun.

Update on the story:

Investigators with Indiana State Police told WDRB News that Chastain is well-known in the area, and has a criminal background. He dated the homeowner's daughter, but she no longer lives at the home, so police aren't sure why he targeted her father.

The thug must have been white because the Bonfire of the 7-11's hasn't started.

Yet.

Posted by: Ace at 04:16 PM




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1 It's so nice to hear of another taxpayer saving the country money.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 10, 2023 04:16 PM (fpZXg)

2 First? pew pew?

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 10, 2023 04:16 PM (/iWhV)

3 Drat. I'll call the others.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 10, 2023 04:17 PM (/iWhV)

4 Nooded.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 10, 2023 04:17 PM (fpZXg)

5 Guns 1, Dirtbag 0

Pretty sure that will be the final score. Pretty sure.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 10, 2023 04:18 PM (M5z+9)

6 Double drat. Second on the nood as well.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 10, 2023 04:18 PM (/iWhV)

7 Ha Darrell, beat you on the nood too (that's rare)!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 10, 2023 04:18 PM (fpZXg)

8

It's not me in drag here in NYC!!!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 10, 2023 04:18 PM (8uqjS)

9 Don't worry, this lawless right-wing woman will be brought to justice.

Posted by: DOJ Commissar Garland at August 10, 2023 04:19 PM (bhRsz)

10 >>The thug must have been white because the Bonfire of the 7-11's hasn't started.

heh

Posted by: JackStraw at August 10, 2023 04:19 PM (ZLI7S)

11 10.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 10, 2023 04:19 PM (QNSds)

12 Now THAT'S what I call gun control. Hitting what you shoot at

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at August 10, 2023 04:19 PM (flINI)

13 'Well known '
Means he victimized many people.

Posted by: torabora at August 10, 2023 04:19 PM (rcx6n)

14 He was a good boy who was just getting his life together.

Posted by: Mom at August 10, 2023 04:20 PM (AD14M)

15 According to the Indiana State Police, that man was saved thanks to the quick response from his wife, who spotted what was going on while still inside the family's home.


Police said officers found Michael Chastain in the front yard with a gunshot wound. He was taken to Saint Vincent Hospital in Salem, where he was pronounced dead.


Obligatory: You gotta love a story with a happy ending. Sniff 🥲

Posted by: rickb223 at August 10, 2023 04:20 PM (DVsQD)

16 Indiana non-city so hopefully this woman isn't charged with murder.

Posted by: blaster at August 10, 2023 04:20 PM (Jk9SN)

17 Chastain as in Bootyjuice's boytoy?

Posted by: 18-1 at August 10, 2023 04:20 PM (lc5cP)

18 11 10.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 10, 2023 04:19 PM


Common core math.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 10, 2023 04:20 PM (QNSds)

19 Probably ought to charge her. A social worker could have resolved this peacefully.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at August 10, 2023 04:20 PM (ppBhU)

20 Saw Death Wish for the first time last night.

Not what I thought it was going to be.

Still pretty great.

Bronson rules.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 10, 2023 04:20 PM (KbCG3)

21 The thug must have been white because the Bonfire of the 7-11's hasn't started.

Yet."

Or the gold-medal markswoman was black, herself. And if she doesn't have a gold-medal, someone ought to give her one.

Meanwhile, the perp already had his Stupid Prize delivered, so good for him.

Posted by: Another Anon at August 10, 2023 04:20 PM (hwP7U)

22 Police said officers found Michael Chastain in the front yard with a gunshot wound. He was taken to Saint Vincent Hospital in Salem, where he was pronounced dead.

Awesome.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 10, 2023 04:21 PM (Xrfse)

23 I'm curious how IN will handle this.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at August 10, 2023 04:21 PM (BdMk6)

24 10

Posted by: NOT Darrell Harris at August 10, 2023 04:21 PM (flINI)

25 .45acp or 9mm?

Posted by: gourmand du jour at August 10, 2023 04:21 PM (MeG8a)

26
The thug must have been white because the Bonfire of the 7-11's hasn't started.

==============

Just found him. White.

Bonfire of the 7-11's: Out.

Romantic glow of Whataboutism every time someone notes inner city crime: In.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 10, 2023 04:21 PM (lCaJd)

27 2 First? pew pew?
Posted by: Darrell Harris


Shoot first, "first" second.

Posted by: mikeski at August 10, 2023 04:21 PM (DgGvY)

28 Betcha the county has to pay to dispose of the perps remains....his final antisocial act.

Posted by: torabora at August 10, 2023 04:21 PM (rcx6n)

29 You know the lady loved her husband or she wouldn't have shot the perp...

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 10, 2023 04:21 PM (fpZXg)

30 "He dated the homeowner's daughter, but she no longer lives at the home, so police aren't sure why he targeted her father."
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I guess that's because police are stupid.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 10, 2023 04:21 PM (dGCAG)

31 Note that the conservative response to this won't be predicated on the color of those involved.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 10, 2023 04:22 PM (KbCG3)

32
Click through for a photo of the dirtbag. Looks rather like a white gangsta wannabe.

Good riddance.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 10, 2023 04:22 PM (n+4am)

33 Bet that dude didn't wake up that day thinking he was going to get his Wonka ticket punched.

But thanks to that man's wife, he's on a tour of pure imagination in the forever box now.

Posted by: Jl97332 at August 10, 2023 04:22 PM (iUkGN)

34 I don't know what to think about this until big donors weigh in.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at August 10, 2023 04:22 PM (ppBhU)

35 About time a happy story

Posted by: Skip at August 10, 2023 04:22 PM (MOY79)

36 Blood stain >> Cha stain

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at August 10, 2023 04:22 PM (ReL47)

37 officers found Michael Chastain in the front yard with a gunshot wound. He was taken to Saint Vincent Hospital in Salem, where he was pronounced dead.

The ambulance drove over him three times, but these attempts to resuscitate him failed.

Posted by: t-bird at August 10, 2023 04:23 PM (Sv58p)

38 It is pretty bad ass when you think about it.

Dude rolls in hot, and she stayed calm enough to draw down and take him out. Shooting a nut job with a gun who's right next to a loved one is a whole nother ball of wax from punching holes in paper.

Well done, ma'am.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 10, 2023 04:23 PM (9UlRk)

39 no no no. the guy was denied his right to a trial by his peers. woman is lucky she's not in d c judge chutkan's court.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at August 10, 2023 04:23 PM (B1FKF)

40 But thanks to that man's wife, he's on a tour of pure imagination in the forever box now.

Hey this global warming thing is real yo. But nobody told me about the butt rape part.

Posted by: Michael Chastain enjoying visiting "another plane of existence" at August 10, 2023 04:23 PM (lc5cP)

41 Why didn't she just shoot the gun out of his hand?

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at August 10, 2023 04:24 PM (ppBhU)

42 nah...the Chastain was white according to the news report, so this story is as dead as well, Chastain.

Posted by: Pancho at August 10, 2023 04:24 PM (Rq6x9)

43 38 It is pretty bad ass when you think about it.

Dude rolls in hot, and she stayed calm enough to draw down and take him out. Shooting a nut job with a gun who's right next to a loved one is a whole nother ball of wax from punching holes in paper.

Well done, ma'am.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 10, 2023 04:23 PM (9UlRk)

Almost Ratched-esque.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 10, 2023 04:24 PM (/iWhV)

44 The thug must have been white because the Bonfire of the 7-11's hasn't started.

--

LOL

Posted by: Lady in Black at August 10, 2023 04:25 PM (mupln)

45 That is a woman worth her weight in gold.

Posted by: rd at August 10, 2023 04:25 PM (hhb1F)

46 There was a somewhat similar case a couple years back, a dude who used to date the daughter, and he had started to send her creepy and/or threatening messages.

He showed up at their door, after following the daughter and her mom home... didn't say a word, knocked several times, then banged on the door, all the while it was being recorded on their doorbell camera.

The dad was yelling through the door, telling him to leave, and eventually the dude slammed himself into the door hard enough to break the door from its hinges.

Dad shot him through the door. The dude's family continues to this day to claim he wasn't doing nothin' wrong, and that the dad wasn't charged because he knows the cops or something.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 10, 2023 04:25 PM (dGCAG)

47 Dude rolls in hot, and she stayed calm enough to draw down and take him out. Shooting a nut job with a gun who's right next to a loved one is a whole nother ball of wax from punching holes in paper.

Well, that or she's lukewarm on the current squeeze and just said "eh, can't lose."

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at August 10, 2023 04:25 PM (ppBhU)

48 I tried to take a deer that dropped dead on my porch to the county dump.

They said nope, no dead animals.

So how are we supposed to get rid of dead criminal carcasses?

Posted by: torabora at August 10, 2023 04:25 PM (rcx6n)

49 He dated the homeowner's daughter, but she no longer lives at the home, so police aren't sure why he targeted her father.

Gosh, that is a real stumper.

Posted by: t-bird at August 10, 2023 04:26 PM (A0/af)

50 But thanks to that man's wife, he's on a tour of pure imagination in the forever box now.
Posted by: Jl97332 at August 10, 2023 04:22 PM (iUkGN)

LOL. Gotta remember this one.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at August 10, 2023 04:26 PM (BdMk6)

51 45 That is a woman worth her weight in gold.

Posted by: rd at August 10, 2023 04:25 PM (hhb1F)

Her husband is F'd.

"Honey, remember that kitchen remodel I've been wanting?"

"Ugh, why couldn't that idiot have just pulled the trigger?!"

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 10, 2023 04:26 PM (KbCG3)

52 38 It is pretty bad ass when you think about it.

Dude rolls in hot, and she stayed calm enough to draw down and take him out. Shooting a nut job with a gun who's right next to a loved one is a whole nother ball of wax from punching holes in paper.

Well done, ma'am.
Posted by: Warai-otoko
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You are absolutely on point here.

Posted by: whig at August 10, 2023 04:26 PM (V+/H3)

53 So how are we supposed to get rid of dead criminal carcasses?

Local Chinese restaurant?

Posted by: Yes I'm going to hell at August 10, 2023 04:26 PM (lc5cP)

54 He dated the homeowner's daughter, but she no longer lives at the home, so police aren't sure why he targeted her father.

---

Seriously? Is it that hard to come up with a plausible motive for why a garbageperson might have a grudge against his ex's father? Maybe because the dad immediately recognized him as a loser unworthy of his daughter and blames the father for his breakup?

Posted by: that guy who always says its begining at August 10, 2023 04:26 PM (fKIdX)

55 If they were just one state over - in Illinois - she'd be tried for murder.

Posted by: Eeyore at August 10, 2023 04:26 PM (brAQZ)

56 couldn't she have just you know like shot him in the leg? (things ocasio-crackpot would say for 100, alex)

Posted by: gnats local 678 at August 10, 2023 04:26 PM (B1FKF)

57 .45acp or 9mm?

Neither.

If .45ACP the perp would be DRT (he died enroute)

If the perp still had his lungs, it wasn't a 9mm.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 10, 2023 04:26 PM (p8A+W)

58 30 "He dated the homeowner's daughter, but she no longer lives at the home, so police aren't sure why he targeted her father."
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I guess that's because police are stupid.
Posted by: BurtTC



Don't need to watch The Forensic Files to figure this one out yet it's a mystery for the police.

Posted by: Puddleglum at August 10, 2023 04:26 PM (sAmhv)

59 The dead bum was 45.

If he was 19, he would be counted by the feds as a "child killed by a firearm."

Because gang banger drop-outs shooting each other up in inner cities are children.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 10, 2023 04:26 PM (5LxE0)

60 Police suspect fair play.

Posted by: Old Dennis Miller line at August 10, 2023 04:27 PM (vEVlv)

61 Nobody's called me yet, so yeah, he's white.

Posted by: Benjamin Crump at August 10, 2023 04:27 PM (PiwSw)

62 48 I tried to take a deer that dropped dead on my porch to the county dump.

They said nope, no dead animals.

So how are we supposed to get rid of dead criminal carcasses?
Posted by: torabora at August 10, 2023 04:25 PM (rcx6n)

Sorry, Jonah Goldberg was last thread.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 10, 2023 04:27 PM (KbCG3)

63
The ambulance drove over him three times, but these attempts to resuscitate him failed.
Posted by: t-bird

=============

I laughed so hard at this. I hope to use it in the future with angry motorists and Just Stop Oil activists.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 10, 2023 04:27 PM (lCaJd)

64 Posted by: that guy who always says its begining at August 10, 2023 04:26 PM (fKIdX)

Hey, you didn't say it's beginning ...

Posted by: spindrift at August 10, 2023 04:27 PM (FRu7m)

65 When I got my CHL almost 30 years ago, my instructor told the story of him and his wife starting to get into their car in the store parking lot when the instructor was approached by a guy with a knife demanding his wallet . The instructor told the guy I don't think so and motioned with his head toward his wife who was prone over the rooftop with her 1911 ready to blow the guy away. it was not a happy ending though as the guy ran away and didn't get shot. ( the story came up because his wife was known as a champion competitor shooter who was a better shot than her husband)

Posted by: polynikes at August 10, 2023 04:27 PM (RUOzb)

66 I applaud this woman.

Nice shot!

Posted by: nurse ratched, otter 841 superfan! at August 10, 2023 04:28 PM (TQc0R)

67 Dad shot him through the door. The dude's family continues to this day to claim he wasn't doing nothin' wrong, and that the dad wasn't charged because he knows the cops or something.
Posted by: BurtTC
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Difference is race sorry to say. There is no mileage for the Dems and race hustlers to gain from it. Flip the script and you get DOJ Community Response Team there in a millisecond and they bring in their race hustling partners in crime.

Posted by: whig at August 10, 2023 04:28 PM (V+/H3)

68 If the perp still had his lungs, it wasn't a 9mm.
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Per President "Gunsmith" Biden, if it was an AR-15, it'll blow your lungs completely out

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 10, 2023 04:28 PM (5LxE0)

69 I looked up a picture. He's white. Or, more accurately, was. Also looks as if he'd finish in a tie with Fetterman on an IQ test.

Posted by: Eeyore at August 10, 2023 04:28 PM (brAQZ)

70 Why didn't she just shoot the gun out of his hand?

I’ve recently started watching The Texan from episode one. First couple of episodes, gunfights mean someone dies or is seriously injured. I’m not even out of the first season yet and Rory Calhoun is already shooting guns out of people’s hands and shooting their legs to disable them without seriously injuring them.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 10, 2023 04:28 PM (EXyHK)

71 Dad probably told the dirtbag to stay away from his daughter, as is the right of every dad in the world.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at August 10, 2023 04:28 PM (MeG8a)

72 Competitive you freaking auto-crap.

Posted by: polynikes at August 10, 2023 04:29 PM (RUOzb)

73 It's ended!

Posted by: That other guy who says it's ending at August 10, 2023 04:29 PM (ReL47)

74 So how are we supposed to get rid of dead criminal carcasses?
Posted by: torabora at August 10, 2023 04:25 PM (rcx6n)


You could call the Sheriff, or you could dump it in a ditch somewhere. Nobody investigates dead deer on the side of the road.
It is good practice you know. Don't get caught transporting a dead deer out of hunting season by the way.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 10, 2023 04:29 PM (xhaym)

75 Mega props to the dude's wife.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 10, 2023 04:29 PM (Xrfse)

76 The thug must have been white because the Bonfire of the 7-11's hasn't started.
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Yes, but, sacre bleu, the streets of Quebec will be alight tonight!

https://tinyurl.com/4xndhmw3
1:10 minutes

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at August 10, 2023 04:29 PM (krqg6)

77 Since it's rural Indiana I'm going to assume she immediately went back inside and finished making the pie.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at August 10, 2023 04:30 PM (CwhoI)

78 If his daughter was dating that dude (his picture does not paint him as a solid citizen), my guess is that this whole group looks like the involuntary cast of Cops! or The First 48. If Jesus takes them all the heaven, we're probably not going to miss them.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at August 10, 2023 04:30 PM (ppBhU)

79 Nurse R-approved.
High praise. Well, dead center.

Posted by: RI Red at August 10, 2023 04:30 PM (VwNzI)

80 In Russia recently a pedophile was ruled to have committed suicide.

By stabbing himself in the back multiple times after digging his own grave.

In America, he would have gotten FBI protection.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 10, 2023 04:30 PM (5LxE0)

81 2 First? pew pew?
Posted by: Darrell Harris
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If you had full auto, you would have been first.

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at August 10, 2023 04:31 PM (krqg6)

82 80 In Russia recently a pedophile was ruled to have committed suicide.

By stabbing himself in the back multiple times after digging his own grave.

In America, he would have gotten FBI protection.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 10, 2023 04:30 PM (5LxE0)

Some even get Secret Service protection.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 10, 2023 04:31 PM (KbCG3)

83
Shot the thug with her handgun, presumably from inside the house.

That's Texas churchgoer skill right there.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 10, 2023 04:31 PM (lCaJd)

84 Wasn't Bonfire of the 7-11s Thomas Wolfe's sixth novel?

I can remember the first line:

"The hood was angry that day, my friends; like an old man returning overcooked short ribs at lil' Shorty Johnson's Bar-b-que Shack."

Posted by: Minuteman at August 10, 2023 04:31 PM (LaNzR)

85
Her husband is F'd.

"Honey, remember that kitchen remodel I've been wanting?"

"Ugh, why couldn't that idiot have just pulled the trigger?!"
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 10, 2023 04:26 PM (KbCG3)

The what have you done for me lately Olympics are always going to be in that wife's favor, for eternity.

Posted by: CaliGirl at August 10, 2023 04:32 PM (UAF4x)

86 After the shooting when authorities asked to question her she said: "In a minute, I'm making Hubs a sammich".

Posted by: wth at August 10, 2023 04:32 PM (v0R5T)

87 Props to Jason Aldean, "Try THAT in a small town!"

-SLV

Posted by: Shy Lurking Voter at August 10, 2023 04:32 PM (e/Osv)

88 In Russia recently a pedophile was ruled to have committed suicide. By stabbing himself in the back multiple times after digging his own grave.

This kind of hate crime cannot go unpunished.

Posted by: Merrick Garland at August 10, 2023 04:32 PM (CwhoI)

89 The thug must have been white because the Bonfire of the 7-11's hasn't started. the race of the "victim" wasn't mentioned a gazilliondy times

Recommended edit. The burning wouldn't start until this evening.

Posted by: Fake AoS Editor at August 10, 2023 04:33 PM (JCZqz)

90 Case outside Susanville CA a couple years back. Cops on stolen car six. Perp bails and runs into house demands keys to car from retired couple.

Homeowner delivers keys, perp goes to take truck. Wife gets husband his pistol. Husband goes outside and stands ground in front of perp stealing his truck. One shot through windshield ends the threat.

County DA didn't press charges. Rural California is a lot different than the cities there.

Posted by: torabora at August 10, 2023 04:33 PM (rcx6n)

91 You know the lady loved her husband or she wouldn't have shot the perp...

You know who is going to lose each "argument" from now in that household.

Man: "I'm going to go play golf this Saturday"
Wife: "No, you will be washing my car and cleaning out the basement"
Man: "But..."
Wife: (give him The Look) "If I wasn't there... you wouldn't be around to play golf"
Man: "Where is the bucket and hose spray head?"

Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 10, 2023 04:33 PM (p8A+W)

92 In Russia recently a pedophile was ruled to have committed suicide.

By stabbing himself in the back multiple times after digging his own grave.
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Remorse can make people do strange things.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at August 10, 2023 04:33 PM (ScR16)

93 Coulda been MY WIFE. Love it!!

Posted by: zooomzooom at August 10, 2023 04:33 PM (Y0Ei4)

94 70 Why didn't she just shoot the gun out of his hand?
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There is a weird correlation though with weapons being hit far more than coincidence would predict.

Believed to be that humans identify and target threats naturally and some people focus intensely on the threat (aka knive, pistol, long arm, etc.) and subconsciously pull the shot toward the threat.

But, it is not a sound tactic nor does it excuse you from using lethal force.

The reason to aim for the torso is because arms, legs, and even the head are very mobile but the torso is not.

Posted by: whig at August 10, 2023 04:33 PM (V+/H3)

95 Has Pence condemned the woman yet?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 10, 2023 04:33 PM (b6WkX)

96 Not to be pedantic, but that would be the Bonfire of the Dollar Generals in that region.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at August 10, 2023 04:34 PM (CwhoI)

97 Yes, the most salient, and unusual, fact of this case is that Chastain is white.

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at August 10, 2023 04:34 PM (XMwZJ)

98 > Investigators with Indiana State Police told WDRB News that Chastain is well-known in the area, and has a criminal background. He dated the homeowner's daughter, but she no longer lives at the home, so police aren't sure why he targeted her father.

This is what happens when you let criminal fucks into your life. They will make note of your valuables, your security, and your weaknesses. When they feel especially motivated to scare up some cash, they'll rob you.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 10, 2023 04:34 PM (0N1h0)

99
Michael Chastain?

Michael Bloodstain, amirite?

Posted by: naturalfake at August 10, 2023 04:34 PM (QzZeQ)

100 85
Her husband is F'd.

"Honey, remember that kitchen remodel I've been wanting?"

"Ugh, why couldn't that idiot have just pulled the trigger?!"
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 10, 2023 04:26 PM (KbCG3)

The what have you done for me lately Olympics are always going to be in that wife's favor, for eternity.
Posted by: CaliGirl at August 10, 2023 04:32 PM (UAF4x)

"So I was just looking at the credit card bill."

"And I was just looking at some dude holding a gun to your head."

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 10, 2023 04:34 PM (KbCG3)

101
Why didn't she just shoot the gun out of his hand?

I’ve recently started watching The Texan from episode one. First couple of episodes, gunfights mean someone dies or is seriously injured. I’m not even out of the first season yet and Rory Calhoun is already shooting guns out of people’s hands and shooting their legs to disable them without seriously injuring them.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 10, 2023 04:28 PM (EXyHK)


I seem to remember once reading that there are actually quite a lot of hand/arm wounds in gunfights, more than one might expect. Mainly because people tend to fixate on the gun rather than their own front sight and the opponent's center mass.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 10, 2023 04:34 PM (n+4am)

102 65 When I got my CHL almost 30 years ago, my instructor told the story of him and his wife starting to get into their car in the store parking lot when the instructor was approached by a guy with a knife demanding his wallet . The instructor told the guy I don't think so and motioned with his head toward his wife who was prone over the rooftop with her 1911 ready to blow the guy away. it was not a happy ending though as the guy ran away and didn't get shot. ( the story came up because his wife was known as a champion competitor shooter who was a better shot than her husband)
Posted by: polynikes at August 10, 2023 04:27 PM

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It was a great ending for the couple personally.

The fear doubt and uncertainty from wondering if the local DA will decide you murdered the scumbag doesn't happen if he runs away.

Posted by: rd at August 10, 2023 04:35 PM (hhb1F)

103 8. It's not me in drag here in NYC!!!
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 10, 2023 04:18

Pictures??

Be safe.

Posted by: L - Practice makes perfect. They know their enemies. at August 10, 2023 04:35 PM (GshMh)

104 Has Pence condemned the woman yet?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 10, 2023 04:33 PM


Begun the pence-trump war has.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 10, 2023 04:35 PM (QNSds)

105 She should have fired a couple warning shots into the air like a noted gunsmith suggests.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 10, 2023 04:35 PM (b6WkX)

106 She should have fired a couple warning shots into the air like a noted gunsmith suggests.

Several people are in jail right now for following that advice.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 10, 2023 04:36 PM (lc5cP)

107 Has Pence condemned the woman yet?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 10, 2023 04:33 PM (b6WkX)

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He's still stuck at the gas station trying to figure out how to fill up his vehicle.

Posted by: ShainS -- Chief 'Misinformation' Researcher at AoSHQ at August 10, 2023 04:36 PM (XlMUK)

108 Per President "Gunsmith" Biden, if it was an AR-15, it'll blow your lungs completely out

"A .22 caliber bullet will lodge in the lung. And we can probably get it out, maybe, and save a life. A 9mm bullet will blow the lung out of the body.”

Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 10, 2023 04:36 PM (p8A+W)

109 107 Has Pence condemned the woman yet?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 10, 2023 04:33 PM (b6WkX)

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He's still stuck at the gas station trying to figure out how to fill up his vehicle.
Posted by: ShainS -- Chief 'Misinformation' Researcher at AoSHQ at August 10, 2023 04:36 PM (XlMUK)

"87? How freaking old is this gas?"

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 10, 2023 04:36 PM (KbCG3)

110 Police said officers found Michael Chastain in the front yard with a gunshot wound.

A gunshot wound

A

Singular.

Damn, woman.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 10, 2023 04:37 PM (b6WkX)

111 Yes, the most salient, and unusual, fact of this case is that Chastain is white.
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at August 10, 2023 04:34 PM (XMwZJ)
.......

He looked oddly unfamiliar.

Posted by: wth at August 10, 2023 04:37 PM (v0R5T)

112 Has Pence condemned the woman yet?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 10, 2023 04:33 PM (b6WkX)


No. I ran out of gas of the road. How do you people pump gas?

Posted by: Mike Gas Monkey Pence at August 10, 2023 04:37 PM (gmo/4)

113 It was a great ending for the couple personally.

The fear doubt and uncertainty from wondering if the local DA will decide you murdered the scumbag doesn't happen if he runs away.

Posted by: rd
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True. The best gunfight is one you never have to shoot to get the result you want.

Posted by: whig at August 10, 2023 04:37 PM (V+/H3)

114 He's still stuck at the gas station trying to figure out how to fill up his vehicle.

Also how come no one sells a bottle of blinker fluid?

Posted by: Mike Pence at August 10, 2023 04:37 PM (lc5cP)

115 You know the lady loved her husband or she wouldn't have shot the perp...

You know who is going to lose each "argument" from now in that household.

Man: "I'm going to go play golf this Saturday"
Wife: "No, you will be washing my car and cleaning out the basement"
Man: "But..."
Wife: (give him The Look) "If I wasn't there... you wouldn't be around to play golf"
Man: "Where is the bucket and hose spray head?"
Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 10, 2023 04:33 PM (p8A+W)
***

Tonight, after alk the bubbub has died down, and the media has departed, the husband learns that...she missed.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 10, 2023 04:37 PM (hv9bm)

116 87 octanes? No this is a big truck. It probably needs more octanes than that. Where is the owner's manual?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 10, 2023 04:38 PM (b6WkX)

117 BUT from that day forward his wife will demand everything from the husband. All she has to say is, "Remember. I killed a man for you".

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at August 10, 2023 04:38 PM (BdMk6)

118 You gotta figure she was at least 10-15 yards away.

Nicely done. I wonder how many shots she fired.

Posted by: nurse ratched, otter 841 superfan! at August 10, 2023 04:38 PM (n+hRS)

119 I'm just glad she didn't use a weapon of war, like an AR-15, to shoot this man.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at August 10, 2023 04:38 PM (ppBhU)

120 Hunted down like a dog for trespassing!

Posted by: Maxine Mikva at August 10, 2023 04:38 PM (5FPX4)

121 Tonight, after alk the bubbub has died down, and the media has departed, the husband learns that...she missed.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 10, 2023 04:37 PM (hv9bm)

Ha. There it is.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 10, 2023 04:38 PM (KbCG3)

122 In Russia recently a pedophile was ruled to have committed suicide.

By stabbing himself in the back multiple times after digging his own grave.


Stories like this don't make me especially happy. Obviously they're lying about the cause of death. Why would you believe they're telling you the truth that he was a pedo?

Posted by: bonhomme at August 10, 2023 04:38 PM (0N1h0)

123 If I had a son he would violate restraining orders and probably wind up dead or in prison.

Posted by: The Lightbearer at August 10, 2023 04:39 PM (5FPX4)

124 117 BUT from that day forward his wife will demand everything from the husband. All she has to say is, "Remember. I killed a man for you".

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at August 10, 2023 04:38 PM (BdMk6)

Pretty soon it'll just be, "Remember, I killed a man."

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 10, 2023 04:39 PM (KbCG3)

125
He's still stuck at the gas station trying to figure out how to fill up his vehicle.

Also how come no one sells a bottle of blinker fluid?
Posted by: Mike Pence at August 10, 2023 04:37 PM (lc5cP)



It's shelved next to the muffler bearings.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 10, 2023 04:39 PM (n+4am)

126 Even if they told the caliber it'd be wrong.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 10, 2023 04:39 PM (lCWOD)

127 He probably told his daughter that the guy was a drugged up loser with no future and a bad temper which will lead him to prison or a morgue.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 10, 2023 04:39 PM (b6WkX)

128 Susanville Ca many years ago: perp is exercised at negative action he's been getting from police department. Drives to police chief's home and calls him out. Police Chief answers call and drops perp where he stands.

Rural California is a lot different than the rest of the place.

Posted by: torabora at August 10, 2023 04:39 PM (rcx6n)

129 Good. More Please.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 10, 2023 04:40 PM (HTUD+)

130 Shows the importance of what county you live in.

Make sure you get a jury that will accept a self-defense claim.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 10, 2023 04:40 PM (2tUFv)

131 Jessica Chastain > Michael Chastain.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 10, 2023 04:40 PM (91b3H)

132 Man: "I'm going to go play golf this Saturday"
Wife: "No, you will be washing my car and cleaning out the basement"
Man: "But..."
Wife: (give him The Look) "If I wasn't there... you wouldn't be around to play golf"
Man: "Where is the bucket and hose spray head?"
Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 10, 2023 04:33 PM (p8A+W)
***

Tonight, after alk the bubbub has died down, and the media has departed, the husband learns that...she missed.
Posted by: Diogenes at August 10, 2023 04:37 PM (hv9bm)

Horde mind and all that. LOLOL.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at August 10, 2023 04:40 PM (BdMk6)

133 The reason to aim for the torso is because arms, legs, and even the head are very mobile but the torso is not.
Posted by: whig at August 10, 2023 04:33 PM

========

And the torso is a big freaking target.

Which according to actual records, the NYPD miss with about 90% of their shots, even from point blank range.

Posted by: rd at August 10, 2023 04:40 PM (hhb1F)

134 Probably shot him with a Ghost Gun.
They literally blow the lungs out.

Posted by: Zek at August 10, 2023 04:40 PM (5FPX4)

135 "A .22 caliber bullet will lodge in the lung. And we can probably get it out, maybe, and save a life. A 9mm bullet will blow the lung out of the body.”
Posted by: Reuben Hick
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Joe Bitem is simply a serial sociopathic liar. 22 LR while not being the first choice of anyone result in an amazing percentage of deaths simply because it is so available.

What it normally does not do is force the criminal critter to stop what they are doing immediately which means in many cases they can still kill you even if you inflicted a mortal wound.

Posted by: whig at August 10, 2023 04:40 PM (V+/H3)

136 Yup, white guy. Cancel the bonfires.

https://tinyurl.com/44x8xntw

Posted by: Russ at August 10, 2023 04:40 PM (ad9pW)

137 Why didn't she just shoot the gun out of his hand?

Given that reasoning, you shouldn't ever have a tight group in the 10 ring on some perp because the persecutor will claim that with your abilities you should have shot the gun out of their hand instead.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 10, 2023 04:40 PM (p8A+W)

138 Mike Pence is the kind of guy who gets told to get a box of squawk and never returns, determined to complete his mission.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at August 10, 2023 04:40 PM (ppBhU)

139 Having a marriage in which one saves the life of one's mate doesn't necessarily change the marital dynamic. Mine is such a marriage. I still take out the trash and do my share of cleaning. We still have "discussions".
I wouldn't have it any other way. Neither would she.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at August 10, 2023 04:40 PM (MeG8a)

140 You aren't going to kill my husband, he hasn't finished painting the bathroom yet, and he has a lawn to mow!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 10, 2023 04:40 PM (b6WkX)

141 "When a woman loves a mannnnnn....she'll shoot to kill!!!"

Nice job by the wife.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(2YtOq) at August 10, 2023 04:40 PM (2YtOq)

142 Not sure I understand blaming the parents for what transpired. We know little to nothing as to what the background was prior to this. The bottom line is there's one less scumbag on this planet to deal with.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 10, 2023 04:40 PM (Xrfse)

143 I always had that scenario in the back of mind when one of my daughters would bring home some obvious piece of shit. But luckily for all involved, they all got through that phase and settled down with decent men.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at August 10, 2023 04:41 PM (CwhoI)

144 > I seem to remember once reading that there are actually quite a lot of hand/arm wounds in gunfights, more than one might expect. Mainly because people tend to fixate on the gun rather than their own front sight and the opponent's center mass.

Yeah, you shoot where you look. You're going to fixate on the gun. So you'll shoot at the gun.

Also, both offensively and defensively, if someone points a gun at you, you're probably going to put up your hands.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 10, 2023 04:41 PM (0N1h0)

145 Richie loved to use 22s because the bullets are small and they don't come out the other end like a 45, see, a 45 will blow a barn door out of the back of your head and there's a lot of dry cleaning involved, but a 22 will just rattle around like Pac-Man until you're dead.


Posted by: Vincent "Vinnie" Antonelli at August 10, 2023 04:41 PM (gmo/4)

146 And the torso is a big freaking target.

Which according to actual records, the NYPD miss with about 90% of their shots, even from point blank range.
Posted by: rd
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A surprising number of cops are not in fact gun guys. The late NYPD veteran Jim Cirrillo in one of his books had interesting things to say about the NYPD's training as he spent some time as an NYPD trainer at their range. Some funny shit.

Posted by: whig at August 10, 2023 04:42 PM (V+/H3)

147 Torso?

More so!

Posted by: Diogenes at August 10, 2023 04:42 PM (hv9bm)

148 His picture shows he's white. Also if he wasn't his name would be Mychal, Mickeel , My'cal etc

Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 10, 2023 04:42 PM (91b3H)

149 I would have just knocked him down with a Chi ball and choked him out.

Posted by: Sean Hannity at August 10, 2023 04:42 PM (5FPX4)

150 Joe Bitem is simply a serial sociopathic liar. 22 LR while not being the first choice of anyone result in an amazing percentage of deaths simply because it is so available.


Biden said that a .22 will lodge into the lung like that organ is similar to thick ballistic gel or a big city phone book.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 10, 2023 04:43 PM (p8A+W)

151
Which according to actual records, the NYPD miss with about 90% of their shots, even from point blank range.
Posted by: rd at August 10, 2023 04:40 PM (hhb1F)



Reminds me of a passage from Carl Hiaasen's first book.

"Honey, these police are expert marksmen."

"Ma'am, I guarantee you that the average cop couldn't hit the broad side of the SS Norway with a bazooka at 10 paces."

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 10, 2023 04:43 PM (n+4am)

152 Which according to actual records, the NYPD miss with about 90% of their shots, even from point blank range.

Posted by: rd at August 10, 2023 04:40 PM


That's mostly because the NYPD has mandated an 11 pound trigger pull for all duty guns. A typical off the shelf Glock has a 5-6 pound trigger pull.


They have to literally yank on those triggers to fire a round and accuracy suffers.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 10, 2023 04:43 PM (QNSds)

153 Pretty soon it'll just be, "Remember, I killed a man."
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 10, 2023 04:39 PM (KbCG3)


And the response is: "I know, Honey, and I love you for it. But what have you done lately?"

Posted by: Kindltot at August 10, 2023 04:43 PM (xhaym)

154 Don't NYPD glocks have some absurd amount of trigger pull, like 12lb?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 10, 2023 04:44 PM (b6WkX)

155 there was a gun fight a few years ago wherein a Pharmacist, I think it was, shot and killed a would be robber. Pharmacist did a nice job of concealing his draw and shot the bad guy into the next world.

Later, when the gun of the late perp was examined, it appeared at least one shot might have disabled the gun owned by the newly deceased.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(2YtOq) at August 10, 2023 04:44 PM (2YtOq)

156 You can take Salem out of the country but you can't take the country out of Salem.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 10, 2023 04:44 PM (63Dwl)

157 Pretty soon it'll just be, "Remember, I killed a man."
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 10, 2023 04:39 PM (KbCG3)

Yeah, and your eggs are killing me now! Seriously, how hard is it to...

*blam*

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 10, 2023 04:45 PM (b6WkX)

158

That's mostly because the NYPD has mandated an 11 pound trigger pull for all duty guns. A typical off the shelf Glock has a 5-6 pound trigger pull.


They have to literally yank on those triggers to fire a round and accuracy suffers.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 10, 2023 04:43 PM

Who is the idiot that made that rule? What?

Posted by: CaliGirl at August 10, 2023 04:45 PM (UAF4x)

159 A friend of mine lived in middle of nowhere northern California.

He said one day he saw a cop pull someone over in front of his house.

As the cop got out of his car the perp did as well with his PISTOL drawn and got off 6 shots before the cop could draw his weapon. All 6 shots missed. The cop fired once...and dead perp.

After they cleared everything up my friend checked his property and found a few of the bullets nowhere near where the perp was aiming.

Training and control can make all the difference...

Posted by: 18-1 at August 10, 2023 04:46 PM (lc5cP)

160 Well. I bet the guy never cheats on his wife.

Posted by: nurse ratched, otter 841 superfan! at August 10, 2023 04:46 PM (SVX08)

161 "Don't NYPD glocks have some absurd amount of trigger pull, like 12lb?"

And given Diversity Era hiring standards the average soyboy patrolman or 4'11" patrolwoman has the grip strength of a 1960s toddler.

Posted by: Sean Hannity at August 10, 2023 04:46 PM (5FPX4)

162 Breaking911 @Breaking911 20h
BREAKING: Ecuadorian Presidential Candidate Fernando Villavicencio assassinated at campaign event - Local media

[BTW, the suspect died after having been arrested]

Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper 28m
NEW 🚨 US is sending FBI agents to Ecuador to help investigate Presidential Candidate Fernando Villavicencio assassination - Bloomberg

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at August 10, 2023 04:46 PM (krqg6)

163 wrong sock.

Posted by: Sean Hannity at August 10, 2023 04:46 PM (5FPX4)

164 Bad guy killed by a woman?

That's hot.

(who are you people?)

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(2YtOq) at August 10, 2023 04:46 PM (2YtOq)

165 Nicely done. I wonder how many shots she fired.

Enough

Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 10, 2023 04:46 PM (p8A+W)

166 Chinese born US Navy sailor who sold secrets to China was encouraged to do so by his mother.

https://shorturl.at/iyU07

Posted by: bonhomme at August 10, 2023 04:46 PM (0N1h0)

167 No Justice No (what he’s white?) never mind. Go home everyone.

Posted by: Montec at August 10, 2023 04:46 PM (uqPnG)

168 It probably would have helped the perp if someone would have thought to put a tourniquet around his neck after he was shot but because he was well known in the community no one did squat for first aid for him.

Posted by: torabora at August 10, 2023 04:46 PM (rcx6n)

169 Lol...that's not important. This lefty "X" post has VIDEO PROOF of Gov Abbott's MURDEROUS WAYS. https://tinyurl.com/yzhywna3

Texas Gov Abbott has installed circular saws between the Rio Grande border buoys to maim or kill anyone who attempts to climb over. Two bodies have already been found trapped in the floating barrier. He wants more migrants to die.

There is going to be a reckoning for this at some point. This is more than a crime; it's a mortal sin. It should be an international outrage. I know the DOJ has its hands full right now with *rump cases, and is also helping the ICC with war crimes in Ukraine. But they'd better be assigning someone to do something about Abbott. He's not only committing murder, he's violating Federal Law, the Constitution, and International Boundaries (I believe), as well as eviscerating animal migration patterns, some of which are endangered.

since the US wont do it id like to see mexico issue a warrant for his arrest. Issue an interpol red notice,then the US will arrest him and extradite him to mexico.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at August 10, 2023 04:47 PM (JCZqz)

170 That's mostly because the NYPD has mandated an 11 pound trigger pull for all duty guns. A typical off the shelf Glock has a 5-6 pound trigger pull.


They have to literally yank on those triggers to fire a round and accuracy suffers.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 10, 2023 04:43 PM

Who is the idiot that made that rule? What?

Posted by: CaliGirl at August 10, 2023 04:45 PM


That was mandated by NYC after that black guy the cops fired 41 shots and and hit him 19 times. The one that springstein wrote that crappy song about.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 10, 2023 04:47 PM (QNSds)

171 > Who is the idiot that made that rule? What?

A lot of people, even on this very fine blog, feel that a heavy trigger pull is some sort of safety. I vehemently disagree, but it's a fairly common idea.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 10, 2023 04:48 PM (0N1h0)

172 US is sending FBI agents to Ecuador to help investigate Presidential Candidate Fernando Villavicencio assassination - Bloomberg

What could possibly go wrong?

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 10, 2023 04:48 PM (Xrfse)

173 That's mostly because the NYPD has mandated an 11 pound trigger pull for all duty guns. A typical off the shelf Glock has a 5-6 pound trigger pull.


They have to literally yank on those triggers to fire a round and accuracy suffers.
Posted by: Mister Scott
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Their rates have never been that good even back in revolver times. Same as expecting someone from the military to be an expert shot--mandatory range time once per year with a guaranteed std. of mediocrity is not going to make anyone into Annie Oakley.

On a rifle firing for a distance, a lighter trigger pull matters a helluva lot more than at self defense ranges if you are trained properly.

I demand a trigger that is smooth but never gave a damn about a light trigger pull on a handgun and yes, I fire my revolvers double action and learned DA/SA on a Walther PPK with teh DA at about 15 lbs for the first shot.

Posted by: whig at August 10, 2023 04:48 PM (V+/H3)

174 Next cop that sees her in the store should buy HER a dozen donuts.

The Meritorious Donut Award for Bravery and Accuracy. With One Hole in Each.

....mmmm....DONUT!


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at August 10, 2023 04:49 PM (e6UQI)

175 "Chinese born US Navy sailor who sold secrets to China was encouraged to do so by his mother."

President for Life Xi says that all Chinese anywhere in the world owe their first allegiance to China. Of course, he said that in Chinese, so what do I know?

Posted by: gourmand du jour at August 10, 2023 04:49 PM (MeG8a)

176 Striker fired pistols already have trigger problems without making it worse through mandating an 11 pound pull.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(2YtOq) at August 10, 2023 04:49 PM (2YtOq)

177 Call the intergalactic space police on Abbott! He is killing aliens!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 10, 2023 04:49 PM (b6WkX)

178 Does the Texas river thing also have sharks with lasers?

Posted by: Montec at August 10, 2023 04:49 PM (uqPnG)

179 NEW 🚨 US is sending FBI agents to Ecuador to help investigate Presidential Candidate Fernando Villavicencio assassination - Bloomberg
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at August 10, 2023 04:46 PM (krqg6)


Too bad for them that Sirhan-Sirhan has an alibi

Posted by: Kindltot at August 10, 2023 04:49 PM (xhaym)

180 Don't NYPD glocks have some absurd amount of trigger pull, like 12lb?

Yes but that's comparable to a double action revolver, which is what almost every cop used to carry.

Posted by: Oddbob at August 10, 2023 04:49 PM (nfrXX)

181 What could possibly go wrong?
Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 10, 2023 04:48 PM (Xrfse)
-----------

The FBI agents don't make it back?

*looks again*

Oh, you said, "wrong." My mistake.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(2YtOq) at August 10, 2023 04:50 PM (2YtOq)

182 Not reported is how she immediately called her daughter to say "try fixing him NOW, dumbass!"

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 10, 2023 04:50 PM (9UlRk)

183 So we are sending more FBI agents to party with Latin American hookers on the government dime?

Or were those SS agents last time?

Posted by: 18-1 at August 10, 2023 04:50 PM (lc5cP)

184 Chinese born US Navy sailor who sold secrets to China was encouraged to do so by his mother."

President for Life Xi says that all Chinese anywhere in the world owe their first allegiance to China. Of course, he said that in Chinese, so what do I know?
Posted by: gourmand du jour at August 10, 2023 04:49 PM (MeG8a)

Foreign born members of the military. Can’t see any potential problems with that.

Posted by: Montec at August 10, 2023 04:50 PM (uqPnG)

185 "So how are we supposed to get rid of dead criminal carcasses?"

Call Animal Control. They'll come with shovel to scrape the critter off the pavement and a garbage bag to put it in.

No word if they take it to the County Landfill after that.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at August 10, 2023 04:51 PM (ou9hh)

186 US is sending FBI agents to Ecuador to help investigate Presidential Candidate Fernando Villavicencio assassination - Bloomberg

On arrival, the team asks "Where's the hookers, man? We got's to investigate them hookers!"

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at August 10, 2023 04:51 PM (oGiDo)

187 104 Has Pence condemned the woman yet?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 10, 2023 04:33 PM

Begun the pence-trump war has.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 10, 2023 04:35 PM

I think that war was over before it started. Pence lost, he just doesn't realize it yet. And not in a funny George Costanza way, or a sweet but sad clueless loser way...but in a smug, out of touch aristocrat/emperor has no clothes sort of way.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at August 10, 2023 04:51 PM (JCZqz)

188 That's mostly because the NYPD has mandated an 11 pound trigger pull for all duty guns. A typical off the shelf Glock has a 5-6 pound trigger pull.

That is why occasionally you will read in the report "shot in the direction of..." Like "a fusillade of shot were fired in the direction of the perp" not aimed, just sent downrange roughly where they figured the landed rounds might do some good.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 10, 2023 04:51 PM (p8A+W)

189 Don't NYPD glocks have some absurd amount of trigger pull, like 12lb?

Yes but that's comparable to a double action revolver, which is what almost every cop used to carry.
Posted by: Oddbob


13 lb New York trigger.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 10, 2023 04:51 PM (PiUuV)

190 117 BUT from that day forward his wife will demand everything from the husband. All she has to say is, "Remember. I killed a man for you".
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at August 10, 2023 04:38 PM (BdMk6)
***************
I do love a happy ending but the poor husband may eventually wish the guy had shot him.

Posted by: Cosda at August 10, 2023 04:51 PM (7p3UA)

191 That was the last violent, feral act he committed or will ever commit.
______________

He was turning his life around!

Wut, no uproar? No Al Sharpton? You're right, the thug must've been white. Ho hum.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 10, 2023 04:51 PM (YqDXo)

192 166 Chinese born US Navy sailor who sold secrets to China was encouraged to do so by his mother.

https://shorturl.at/iyU07
Posted by: bonhomme at August 10, 2023 04:46 PM

================

Hunter and Hillary did the same, and they got off scot-free.

Posted by: rd at August 10, 2023 04:52 PM (hhb1F)

193 US is sending FBI agents to Ecuador to help investigate Presidential Candidate Fernando Villavicencio assassination - Bloomberg
Posted by: andycanuck

Great! Send 40,000 of them.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 10, 2023 04:52 PM (b6WkX)

194 The CIA probably whacked the guy, anyway.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 10, 2023 04:52 PM (IF2IV)

195 No range report?

Posted by: Weasel at August 10, 2023 04:52 PM (RG6z4)

196 A lot of people, even on this very fine blog, feel that a heavy trigger pull is some sort of safety. I vehemently disagree, but it's a fairly common idea.
Posted by: bonhomme
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A heavy trigger pull is useful if you have half assed trained personnel in the same way that the old military 45 carry mandated an empty chamber outside of a war zone.

A light trigger on a target rifle makes sense, for a hunting rifle, it might or might not depending on the target.

A light trigger on a self defense weapon is more likely to produce an AD absent some other qualifier like a hammer fired weapon, safeties, or extensive training.

Posted by: whig at August 10, 2023 04:53 PM (V+/H3)

197 No range report?

All quiet on the Ecuadorian front.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 10, 2023 04:54 PM (Xrfse)

198 185 "So how are we supposed to get rid of dead criminal carcasses?"


Hogs.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 10, 2023 04:54 PM (PiUuV)

199 US is sending FBI agents to Ecuador to help investigate Presidential Candidate Fernando Villavicencio assassination - Bloomberg

What could possibly go wrong?
Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 10, 2023 04:48 PM (Xrfse)

So the FIB is going to investigate the CIA? Fat chance.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at August 10, 2023 04:54 PM (BdMk6)

200 Yes but that's comparable to a double action revolver, which is what almost every cop used to carry.
Posted by: Oddbob
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Yes it is and the first accepted semi-autos were SA/DA or DAO only in many police departments transitioning from them.

Posted by: whig at August 10, 2023 04:55 PM (V+/H3)

201 > The CIA probably whacked the guy, anyway.

His security looked reasonable enough until they shoved him into a standard issue passenger vehicle. Then he was a fish in a barrel.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 10, 2023 04:55 PM (0N1h0)

202 So how are we supposed to get rid of dead criminal carcasses?

Local Chinese restaurant?
Posted by: Yes I'm going to hell at August 10, 2023 04:26 PM (lc5cP)
_____________

Mayor's doorstep?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 10, 2023 04:55 PM (YqDXo)

203 Well, time to tool up and take the lovely Mrs Blake to a local dining establishment.

Later!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(2YtOq) at August 10, 2023 04:55 PM (2YtOq)

204 It was BOILING!!

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Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at August 10, 2023 04:56 PM (krqg6)

205 US is sending FBI agents to Ecuador to help investigate Presidential Candidate Fernando Villavicencio assassination - Bloomberg

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 10, 2023 04:48 PM (Xrfse)
_________________

Looking for tips on how to whack Trump.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 10, 2023 04:56 PM (YqDXo)

206 Speaking of gas stations, that seems to be a choice venue for car jackers of late. Victims are usually distracted by the task, the car will be unlocked, maybe even with keys inside.
Heads on swivels, people.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at August 10, 2023 04:56 PM (MeG8a)

207 I tried to take a deer that dropped dead on my porch to the county dump.

They said nope, no dead animals.

So how are we supposed to get rid of dead criminal carcasses?
Posted by: torabora

Wood chipper... great fertilizer. I would be careful about how you use the *chips* though...

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 10, 2023 04:56 PM (fpZXg)

208 176 Striker fired pistols already have trigger problems without making it worse through mandating an 11 pound pull.
Posted by: blake
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Just have to practice more. Not ideal but not as bad as some DA/SA triggers which I think Jeff Cooper called Crunch n Tick and pointless. Course he was a 1911 man through and through but did admit a weakness for the CZ-75.

Posted by: whig at August 10, 2023 04:57 PM (V+/H3)

209 > A light trigger on a self defense weapon is more likely to produce an AD absent some other qualifier like a hammer fired weapon, safeties, or extensive training.

When people say light trigger, I think 2-3lbs. I would agree that's too light. 5-6lbs is probably right around perfect.

That said, the third law of gun safety says your finger is off the trigger until you are on target and have made a decision to shoot.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 10, 2023 04:58 PM (0N1h0)

210 Very few people of color in Salem, Indiana. The perp was white trash.

Posted by: AgathaPagatha at August 10, 2023 04:58 PM (xDMjB)

211 206 Speaking of gas stations, that seems to be a choice venue for car jackers of late. Victims are usually distracted by the task, the car will be unlocked, maybe even with keys inside.
Heads on swivels, people.
Posted by: gourmand du jour
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Very true that. Next is crowded parking lots at big box stores.

Posted by: whig at August 10, 2023 04:58 PM (V+/H3)

212 "US is sending FBI agents to Ecuador to help investigate Presidential Candidate Fernando Villavicencio assassination"

Well, I guess that's better than having them investigate things here.

I'm sure the shooter's motives will remain a mystery.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at August 10, 2023 04:58 PM (ou9hh)

213 Victims are usually distracted by the task, the car will be unlocked, maybe even with keys inside.
Heads on swivels, people.
Posted by: gourmand

The gas is a weapon.
Guess everyone should hold onto the nozzle so you can drench the perp.
Then offer a snap of the bic.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 10, 2023 04:58 PM (fpZXg)

214 Missed this for #204

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Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at August 10, 2023 04:58 PM (krqg6)

215 Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper 9h
ALERT - Ecuador’s President declared a two-month state of emergency after assassination of presidential candidate, armed forces mobilized throughout the national territory

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at August 10, 2023 04:59 PM (krqg6)

216 A trigger with a 5ish lbs pull is a good compromise for a duty pistol. It's not so heavy that it horribly affects aim, but the odds of an accidentsl discharge in a high stress situation while pointing the gun at someone is reduced. You get much lighter (like a target pistol), and hold a suspect at gunpoint under stress, and it's asking for trouble. 12lbs...that's gross (I've used them, and they're awful)

You want light...shoot a replica Sharps with a set trigger. First time trying it, over 50% of people can't even TOUCH the trigger without setting it off!

Posted by: Moron Analyst at August 10, 2023 05:00 PM (JCZqz)

217 I have a range report. I'm home, home on it.


I crack myself up.


Posted by: Archer at August 10, 2023 05:00 PM (gmo/4)

218 Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper 18h
UPDATE - Authorities in Ecuador say a suspect in the slaying of a presidential candidate has died of wounds after being arrested - AP

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at August 10, 2023 05:00 PM (krqg6)

219 > Not ideal but not as bad as some DA/SA triggers which I think Jeff Cooper called Crunch n Tick and pointless.

I got in a mild argument about this the other day on this blog. I think a heavy DA with every followup shot being much lighter is a terrible idea.

Every trainer in the world who knows what they're doing will tell you to strive for consistency in everything you do. Why would you intentionally introduce an inconsistency into your process? DAO means every trigger pull is the same. Practice that and keeping your finger off the trigger until you're ready to fire.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 10, 2023 05:01 PM (0N1h0)

220 Yank the teeth before feeding the perp to the hogs.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 10, 2023 05:01 PM (IF2IV)

221 When people say light trigger, I think 2-3lbs. I would agree that's too light. 5-6lbs is probably right around perfect.

That said, the third law of gun safety says your finger is off the trigger until you are on target and have made a decision to shoot.
Posted by: bonhomme
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It does but when faced with a threat, people often ignore it. Think a study had people subconsciously touching the trigger on drawstrokes just to verify it was there. They were not even aware they were doing it.

Hammer fired in DA has the advantage, whether a revolver or a DAO hammer fired semi auto where you learn to draw with your thumb preventing the hammer from going back--no hammer going back, no discharge even if you violate the 3rd rule.

Posted by: whig at August 10, 2023 05:01 PM (V+/H3)

222 Texas Gov Abbott has installed circular saws between the Rio Grande border buoys to maim or kill

I checked the video - the "saws" aren't even powered. Sad.

Posted by: spindrift at August 10, 2023 05:02 PM (FRu7m)

223 Training and control can make all the difference...
Posted by: 18-1 at August 10, 2023 04:46 PM


Coupled with, how you say, natural abilities.

Posted by: Paolo at August 10, 2023 05:02 PM (a3Q+t)

224 God made men and women. Sam Colt made the equal.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 10, 2023 05:02 PM (6VKyY)

225 Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper 20h
UPDATES 🚨 Ecuadorian presidential candidate Fernando Villavicencio was shot dead after holding a rally in Quito on Wednesday evening, local media reported, citing Interior Minister Juan Zapata.

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at August 10, 2023 05:02 PM (krqg6)

226 218 Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper 18h
UPDATE - Authorities in Ecuador say a suspect in the slaying of a presidential candidate has died of wounds after being arrested - AP

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at August 10, 2023 05:00 PM (krqg6)

Oswald didn't survive either.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 10, 2023 05:04 PM (6VKyY)

227 God made men and women. Sam Colt made the equal.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 10, 2023 05:02 PM (6VKyY)

Hiram Maxim made them holier.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 10, 2023 05:04 PM (9UlRk)

228 Yank the teeth before feeding the perp to the hogs.

Handy Clip & Save advice from the Horde.

Though I don't have any love for the feral hogs that run around here, so no pre-dumping dentistry.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 10, 2023 05:04 PM (p8A+W)

229 That reminds me. I need to read last Sunday's Gun Thread that I missed.

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at August 10, 2023 05:04 PM (krqg6)

230 Texas Gov Abbott has installed circular saws between the Rio Grande border buoys to maim or kill

I checked the video - the "saws" aren't even powered. Sad.
Posted by: spindrift at August 10, 2023 05:02 PM (FRu7m)

Those illegal assholes will just march to NM or AZ and waltz across the border.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at August 10, 2023 05:04 PM (BdMk6)

231 So the FBI is literally just a mercenary hit squad now?

Awesome.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 10, 2023 05:05 PM (9UlRk)

232 212 "US is sending FBI agents to Ecuador to help investigate Presidential Candidate Fernando Villavicencio assassination"


So outside of the FBIs fucking purview.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 10, 2023 05:05 PM (6VKyY)

233 > ALERT - Ecuador’s President declared a two-month state of emergency after assassination of presidential candidate, armed forces mobilized throughout the national territory
__________

See.... ^^ this ^^ is how you "banana republic." Not like the shit we're doing. Too bad Ecuador’s President looks ghey. He needs a mustache, a beret and a hip holster with a .45 in it.

And some goons to rough up his opponents.

Like *biden's doing, but with con gusto!! And some babes.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 10, 2023 05:05 PM (Q4IgG)

234 Course he was a 1911 man through and through

* nods *

Posted by: Right-thinking men everywhere at August 10, 2023 05:05 PM (a3Q+t)

235 I got in a mild argument about this the other day on this blog. I think a heavy DA with every followup shot being much lighter is a terrible idea.

Every trainer in the world who knows what they're doing will tell you to strive for consistency in everything you do. Why would you intentionally introduce an inconsistency into your process? DAO means every trigger pull is the same. Practice that and keeping your finger off the trigger until you're ready to fire.
Posted by: bonhomme
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I learned on revolvers including snubbies and crappy 22 LR rifles where you have to use the pinch method to pull the trigger with some degree of accuracy in some cases.

A DA/SA does not particularly bother me but you do get a bit larger grouping and hand fit is absolutely critical. First semi auto was a Walther PPK which had really heavy DA trigger and very small sights. Thing was laser accurate though at close range up to 7 yds despite it all.

Posted by: whig at August 10, 2023 05:05 PM (V+/H3)

236 "No Justice ... (looks at photo of perp) ... uh ... No Biggie!"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 10, 2023 05:05 PM (YqDXo)

237 UPDATE - Authorities in Ecuador say a suspect in the slaying of a presidential candidate has died of wounds after being arrested - AP

So they found a CIA cut-out from the morgue, or just some average putz on the street they could frame?

Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 10, 2023 05:06 PM (p8A+W)

238 127 He probably told his daughter that the guy was a drugged up loser with no future and a bad temper which will lead him to prison or a morgue.

Remember honey, always listen to your father.

And dayum, those braces work!

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at August 10, 2023 05:06 PM (OqSlY)

239 Chinese born US Navy sailor who sold secrets to China was encouraged to do so by his mother.

Nice to see some soldiers still look up to their Commander in Chief.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 10, 2023 05:06 PM (EXyHK)

240 Speaking of gas stations, that seems to be a choice venue for car jackers of late. Victims are usually distracted by the task, the car will be unlocked, maybe even with keys inside.
Heads on swivels, people.
Posted by: gourmand du jour

Don’t even need the key inside if it’s a push button start. If the owner is standing next to the vehicle the perp can just push the button and take off.

Just saw a First 48 where this happened when a guy was at the air pump.

Posted by: polynikes at August 10, 2023 05:07 PM (MNhXM)

241 Texas Gov Abbott has installed circular saws between the Rio Grande border buoys to maim or kill
______________

Great idea!

Now let's electrify the river, too!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 10, 2023 05:07 PM (YqDXo)

242 So the FBI is literally just a mercenary hit squad now?

Awesome.
Posted by: Warai-otoko


Pretty much. Some here think we should be applauding a government agency that surveils someone for months, records church attendance, and then decides to 'serve a warrant' at 6am because they're suddenly a threat.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 10, 2023 05:07 PM (IG4Id)

243 Fernando a Marxist or not?
Answer that and you can figure out the rest of the story including the Eff Bee Eye angle.

Posted by: Skip at August 10, 2023 05:07 PM (MOY79)

244 So outside of the FBIs fucking purview.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 10, 2023 05:05 PM (6VKyY)

FFS, just make it official and issue the Feebs snappy Hugo Boss uniforms.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Kaboom survivor at August 10, 2023 05:08 PM (xPJvm)

245 Those illegal assholes will just march to NM or AZ and waltz across the border.

no need, the feds will remove whatever obstructions Texas places in the river and walk them across

Posted by: brak at August 10, 2023 05:08 PM (3BMQI)

246 232 212 "US is sending FBI agents to Ecuador to help investigate Presidential Candidate Fernando Villavicencio assassination"

So outside of the FBIs fucking purview.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 10, 2023 05:05 PM (6VKyY)
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I was wondering about that. The FBI doesn't have any jurisdiction there. And how many FBI agents speak Spanish?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 10, 2023 05:09 PM (YqDXo)

247 222 Texas Gov Abbott has installed circular saws between the Rio Grande border buoys to maim or kill

I checked the video - the "saws" aren't even powered. Sad.
Posted by: spindrift at August 10, 2023 05:02 PM

The blades just got 10 feet bigger. And they're going to be powered by coal. Beautiful, clean coal. American coal, I promise you.

Posted by: Donald Trump at August 10, 2023 05:09 PM (JCZqz)

248 Texas Gov Abbott has installed circular saws between the Rio Grande border buoys to maim or kill
______________

Great idea!

Now let's electrify the river, too!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 10, 2023 05:07 PM


I heard today on the radio that he signed a purchase order for sharks with frikkin laser beams attached to their heads to put in the river.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 10, 2023 05:09 PM (QNSds)

249 Those illegal assholes will just march to NM or AZ and waltz across the border.

no need, the feds will remove whatever obstructions Texas places in the river and walk them across
Posted by: brak at August 10, 2023 05:08 PM (3BMQI)
________________

Abbott should build a bus terminal there, with the bays labeled "New York," "Chicago," "Martha's Vineyard, "LA," and "DC."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 10, 2023 05:11 PM (YqDXo)

250 Bad Guy Killed By Good Woman With a Gun
—Ace

Bad Guy Killed By Woman Good With a Gun
—Ray

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at August 10, 2023 05:11 PM (OqSlY)

251 So outside of the FBIs fucking purview.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 10, 2023 05:05 PM (6VKyY)
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I was wondering about that. The FBI doesn't have any jurisdiction there. And how many FBI agents speak Spanish?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 10, 2023 05:09 PM (YqDXo

Probably a few though the dialects for Mexico are far different than the ones in Ecuador.

Regardless, the federal police force shouldn't be leaving the border of the US. Were I congress, I'd cut their fucking funding down to 1000 dollars.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 10, 2023 05:11 PM (6VKyY)

252 US is sending FBI agents to Ecuador to help investigate Presidential Candidate Fernando Villavicencio assassination - Bloomberg

What could possibly go wrong?
Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 10, 2023 04:48 PM (Xrfse)


So...is the mormon church going to pull their missionaries?

Posted by: Diogenes at August 10, 2023 05:11 PM (hv9bm)

253 What's more likely?

Some nudnik is looking at these murder-buoy death-contraptions and saying, "i betcha i can get through"?

Or the cartels are just chucking bodies at them for funsies, for disposal, for U.S. Dollars wired from some NGO no one has ever heard of, or whatever.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 10, 2023 05:12 PM (9UlRk)

254 Oh, a murder in Peru?

Scotland Yard is on the case!

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 10, 2023 05:12 PM (6VKyY)

255 The ~4.5lb. Geissele SSA-X trigger in my AR's is the lower limit of what I'm okay with as a pull weight in a defensive firearm.

If you get too excited it's not difficult to yank straight through both stages and fire the weapon. Anything lighter would be jittery as all hell under any kind of stress.

Posted by: ballistic at August 10, 2023 05:12 PM (oXNqT)

256 246 232 212 "US is sending FBI agents to Ecuador to help investigate Presidential Candidate Fernando Villavicencio assassination"

So outside of the FBIs fucking purview.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 10, 2023 05:05 PM (6VKyY)
_______________

I was wondering about that. The FBI doesn't have any jurisdiction there. And how many FBI agents speak Spanish?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
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They are there to teach the Ecuadorians how to obstruct the investigation. Would not be surprised that the CIA had some interest in that guy being dead too.

Posted by: whig at August 10, 2023 05:13 PM (V+/H3)

257 I was wondering about that. The FBI doesn't have any jurisdiction there. And how many FBI agents speak Spanish?

The FBI didn't have jurisdiction running around Libya cleaning up Hillary's mess, and they probably had fewer speaking Arabic.

But who knows given all of the Diversity Hires with questionable origins.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 10, 2023 05:13 PM (p8A+W)

258 > So...is the mormon church going to pull their missionaries?

Maybe? There will likely be cycles of violence and retaliation. Ecuador is even less safe today than it was a couple of days ago, and it wasn't that safe then.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 10, 2023 05:14 PM (0N1h0)

259 Or the cartels are just chucking bodies at them for funsies, for disposal, for U.S. Dollars wired from some NGO no one has ever heard of, or whatever.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 10, 2023 05:12 PM (9UlRk)
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They'll dump intact bodies there just for propaganda value that the Dems will snatch up.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 10, 2023 05:14 PM (YqDXo)

260 If the owner is standing next to the vehicle the perp can just push the button and take off.
Ummm...no. The fob must be inside the vehicle.

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at August 10, 2023 05:15 PM (XMwZJ)

261 Maybe? There will likely be cycles of violence and retaliation. Ecuador is even less safe today than it was a couple of days ago, and it wasn't that safe then.
Posted by: bonhomme at August 10, 2023 05:14 PM (0N1h0)
____________

Only one solution: bring a whole bunch of these folks here.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 10, 2023 05:15 PM (YqDXo)

262 Ho Lee Fook! Just had a torrential downpour here. Must have had close to an inch of rain fall in 15 minutes. Now tapering off. Hearing thunder, seeing no lightning. No hail.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 10, 2023 05:15 PM (4RGBH)

263 255 The ~4.5lb. Geissele SSA-X trigger in my AR's is the lower limit of what I'm okay with as a pull weight in a defensive firearm.

If you get too excited it's not difficult to yank straight through both stages and fire the weapon. Anything lighter would be jittery as all hell under any kind of stress.
Posted by: ballistic at August 10, 2023 05:12 PM

Why I never receive royalties from this? I know the stress of men yanking through and firing early...where is mi Paolo?

Posted by: Gisele Bündchen at August 10, 2023 05:15 PM (JCZqz)

264 262 Ho Lee Fook! Just had a torrential downpour here. Must have had close to an inch of rain fall in 15 minutes. Now tapering off. Hearing thunder, seeing no lightning. No hail.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 10, 2023 05:15 PM (4RGBH


You're not nearly as good looking as those Mexican weather chicks.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 10, 2023 05:16 PM (6VKyY)

265 Ho Lee Fook! Just had a torrential downpour here. Must have had close to an inch of rain fall in 15 minutes. Now tapering off. Hearing thunder, seeing no lightning. No hail.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

I don't think I've seen that much in our T-storms... and you went North to miss our monsoon storms!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 10, 2023 05:16 PM (fpZXg)

266 255 The ~4.5lb. Geissele SSA-X trigger in my AR's is the lower limit of what I'm okay with as a pull weight in a defensive firearm.

If you get too excited it's not difficult to yank straight through both stages and fire the weapon. Anything lighter would be jittery as all hell under any kind of stress.
Posted by: ballistic
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Wise. I have a RISE LE model cartridge trigger in my AR-10 for that reason. All my ARs have single stage triggers but my bolts have double stage which I actually prefer. Have a blackpowder rifle with set triggers and that is sweet using the set trigger. Never have got the scratch together though to get one of the rare Mauser 98 set trigger s that come up on auction sites now and again.

Posted by: whig at August 10, 2023 05:17 PM (V+/H3)

267 You can buy a similar product as those floating balls to keep your cat inside your fenced yard or patio.

Probably could keep out raccoons and opossums too.

Posted by: polynikes at August 10, 2023 05:17 PM (MNhXM)

268 > I was wondering about that. The FBI doesn't have any jurisdiction there. And how many FBI agents speak Spanish?

Feebs bill themselves as the premiere US law enforcement group with all of the high speed low drag investigative techniques. Likely the US diplomat to Ecuador offered to send THE FBI down to assist in the investigation and the locals thought that was nifty. JUST LIKE ON TV!

They don't have jurisdiction, so they'll attach to and advise the local military police.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 10, 2023 05:17 PM (0N1h0)

269 And how many FBI agents speak Spanish?

You just talk loud and add an O to the end of words.

Understando?

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at August 10, 2023 05:17 PM (ppBhU)

270 Abbott should build a bus terminal there, with the bays labeled "New York," "Chicago," "Martha's Vineyard, "LA," and "DC."

Given how much child sex trafficking the Biden junta is backing, it wouldn't surprise me if a Jack Smith protégé isn't looking to hit Abbott up with a Mann Act charge if the governor were to do that.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 10, 2023 05:17 PM (p8A+W)

271 It's also Salem. About 30 miles from Louisville and across a toll bridge.

It is almost as back out of the way as Brownstown or Bedford. Not as back woods as Gnaw Bone or Mitchell. Or Norman.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 10, 2023 05:18 PM (9OpgF)

272 Feebs bill themselves as the premiere US law enforcement group with all of the high speed low drag investigative techniques.

Like how they rapidly got to the bottom of the Las Vegas shooter.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 10, 2023 05:18 PM (p8A+W)

273 "He has a survivorable wound Sir."


"Nah, he isn't going to make it."

Posted by: Tonypete at August 10, 2023 05:18 PM (MJIed)

274 no need, the feds will remove whatever obstructions Texas places in the river and walk them across
Posted by: brak
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Not yet btw, the feds are forced to sue as they don't want the optics of taking down the barriers. Biden and the media just want to ignore it altogether as it doesn't help them in the slightest.

Posted by: whig at August 10, 2023 05:19 PM (V+/H3)

275 "The hood was angry that day, my friends; like an old man returning overcooked short ribs at lil' Shorty Johnson's Bar-b-que Shack."

*****

Good one, Costanza.

Posted by: EFG at August 10, 2023 05:19 PM (nmMZo)

276 "...cost of grocery, gas and rent continues to weigh on Americans..."

I thought the CPI didn't factor those items in to its index. Too volatile, or something.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at August 10, 2023 05:19 PM (MeG8a)

277 You're not nearly as good looking as those Mexican weather chicks.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at

LOL. He might be to those of us who appreciate good looking weathermen.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 10, 2023 05:20 PM (ExP60)

278 If I ever become PrezzieDunt, I'm building the world's longest moat, the world's longest continual machine gun nest, the world's longest minefield and the world's longest continually burning wall of fire on the border with South America.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 10, 2023 05:20 PM (6VKyY)

279 He Found Out.

Posted by: garrett at August 10, 2023 05:20 PM (XAUrg)

280 In other news... FBI SWAT team capped a guy yesterday who they said threatened Biden online.

Yes, he had guns... yes, he shot off his mouth online... should not be a death sentence.

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 10, 2023 05:20 PM (oHd/0)

281 There's like fifty different CPIs each with their own basket based on whatever the shit they need their squiggly line to do.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 10, 2023 05:20 PM (9UlRk)

282 > And how many FBI agents speak Spanish?

I'm sure they can find many.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 10, 2023 05:21 PM (0N1h0)

283 One of the biggest restaurants in Salem is a Cracker Barrell.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 10, 2023 05:21 PM (9OpgF)

284 Nood.

Posted by: Benjamin Crump at August 10, 2023 05:22 PM (PiwSw)

285 277 You're not nearly as good looking as those Mexican weather chicks.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at

LOL. He might be to those of us who appreciate good looking weathermen.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 10, 2023 05:20 PM (ExP60

*Austin powers voice*

Oh, Be Have!

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 10, 2023 05:22 PM (6VKyY)

286
See.... ^^ this ^^ is how you "banana republic." Not like the shit we're doing. Too bad Ecuador’s President looks ghey. He needs a mustache, a beret and a hip holster with a .45 in it.

And some goons to rough up his opponents.

Like *biden's doing, but with con gusto!! And some babes.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 10, 2023 05:05 PM


We're available! Addicted to love!

Posted by: Robert Plant Video Babes at August 10, 2023 05:23 PM (enJYY)

287 They don't have jurisdiction, so they'll attach to and advise the local military police.
Posted by: bonhomme at August 10, 2023 05:17 PM (0N1h0)

Ah, but now the Administration can say they cannot comment, as that assassination has an 'open investigation'.

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 10, 2023 05:25 PM (oHd/0)

288 > Yes, he had guns... yes, he shot off his mouth online... should not be a death sentence.

Did you see the video?

They're all lined up behind an armored vehicle, yelling at him to come out.

He's saying he needs a lawyer.

A flashbang goes off outside, between the Feebs and the victim.

What happens then? Who knows? Why didn't they just post up and wait him out? Why did they decide to throw a flashbang outside? Did the flashbang spook someone into firing? Was the victim armed? Will we ever see body cam footage? (LOL, I'm hilarious.)

Posted by: bonhomme at August 10, 2023 05:26 PM (0N1h0)

289 I was wondering about that. The FBI doesn't have any jurisdiction there. And how many FBI agents speak Spanish?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 10, 2023 05:09 PM (YqDXo)


The US has a large footprint in Ecuador, I think we were giving them money and training hand over fist until Ukraine sucked all the air. Ecuador also uses USD instead of a state currency. The chance of something hinkey is pretty high.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 10, 2023 05:27 PM (xhaym)

290 @280

>>Yes, he had guns... yes, he shot off his mouth online... should not be a death sentence.

You know, I bet a Venn Diagram of Death Threats against Trump/Biden/Perp Shot Too Death would be interesting.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 10, 2023 05:28 PM (up/3i)

291 BREAKING: Ecuadorian Presidential Candidate Fernando Villavicencio assassinated at campaign event - Local media

[BTW, the suspect died after having been arrested]

Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper 28m
NEW 🚨 US is sending FBI agents to Ecuador to help investigate Presidential Candidate Fernando Villavicencio assassination - Bloomberg
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at August 10, 2023 04:46 PM (krqg6)

Presumably this was the Leftard candidate. If right-wing candidate had been assassinated, the Biden junta would not send Fibbies to investigate; but they might have already been there...

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 10, 2023 05:29 PM (VQo8k)

292 US is sending FBI agents to Ecuador


Ecuadorian hookers limbering up.

Posted by: Archer at August 10, 2023 05:33 PM (gmo/4)

293 I was wondering about that. The FBI doesn't have any jurisdiction there. And how many FBI agents speak Spanish?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara


The FBI does not have jurisdiction anywhere outside the United States, that isn't a protectorate like American Samoa. They have jack shit jurisdiction in France or Germany, but they'll definitely go investigate something.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 10, 2023 05:36 PM (PiUuV)

294 You're not nearly as good looking as those Mexican weather chicks.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 10, 2023 05:16 PM (6VKyY)

True, dat.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 10, 2023 05:38 PM (VQo8k)

295 If this lady's shot saving her husband doesn't end up as a Day-by-Day cartoon (Chris Muir), I'll eat my hat.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at August 10, 2023 06:15 PM (qPw5n)

296 205 US is sending FBI agents to Ecuador to help investigate Presidential Candidate Fernando Villavicencio assassination - Bloomberg

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 10

Back up for the CIA.
Dude was an anti-communist

Posted by: Braenyard at August 11, 2023 12:28 AM (lCWOD)

297 They have jack shit jurisdiction in France or Germany, but they'll definitely go investigate something.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 10, 2023 05:36 PM (PiUuV)

Thought it was the strangest thing when Clinton sent the FBI insteadof the military when the Cole was bombed.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 11, 2023 12:31 AM (lCWOD)

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