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Regular Tuesday Morning Rant Host CBD is currently at an undisclosed maple syrup rehab facility in the North East somewhere.


*****


...............With liberty and justice for all. It feels fine when you say it. It sounds good when you hear it. The concept noble. And once upon a time our country strived to provide liberty and justice for all.

No more. And it hasn't been that way for quite some time. I'm not sure when the erosion began. But it has been ongoing for a number of years. And what was once the Shining City on a Hill is now a fractured sludge tank of political power, greed and disdain of what is right and wrong.


The current prosecutions of Donald Trump and a quick review of recent history shows to what great depth our nation has sunk. The recent history I speak of goes back to 2003 when former Clinton aide Sandy Berger stole classified documents from the National Archives.

Berger got off with 2 misdemeanor convictions and a sentence of Please don't do that again Sandy. Mkay?

What a complete Bull Shit sentence.

Not to be outdone by a man named Sandy, Hillary Clinton said, "Here, hold my Chablis." Hillary destroyed documents which were under subpoena, mishandled classified information and kicked Bill's dog. We don't have time to review her other "foibles".

The bitch was never faced any criminal charges. Perhaps her punishment was losing the 2016 Presidential election. Between Berger and Clinton, I don't know who got the last laugh.

Other liars from the Obama regime? James Clapper and John Brennan come to mind. Nope, nothing happened to those two loathsome individuals except for some lucrative media deals.


Well the FBI must be as pure as the wind driven snow? ***SNORT*** Have you forgotten liar, liar pants on fire Andrew McCabe? Another disgusting piece of debris from the D.C. septic tank.

DOJ Lawyers Handling Trump J6 Case Declined to Prosecute Disgraced FBI Chief Andrew McCabe

J.P. Cooney and Molly Gaston, longtime DOJ creatures now assigned to Special Counsel Jack Smith's team, refused to charge McCabe in 2020.

But just a few years ago, Gaston appeared unconcerned with “lies” told by another top government official. Gaston and fellow prosecutor J.P. Cooney, also currently assigned to Smith’s team, informed Andrew McCabe—the former acting FBI Director who was fired in 2018 for lying to federal investigators—that he would not be charged.

“We write to inform you that, after careful consideration, the Government has decided not to pursue criminal charges against your client, Andrew G. McCabe, arising from the referral by the Office of the Inspector General to our office of conduct described in OIGs April 18, 2018 report, entitled ‘A Report of Allegations Relating to Former Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe,’” Gaston and Cooney wrote to Michael Bromwich and David Schertler, McCabe’s attorneys, in February 2020. “Based on the totality of the circumstances and all of the information known to the Government at this time, we consider the matter closed.”


James Comey leaks and lies and is set for life with his pension and book deal. Funny thing, no one has interviewed Martha Stewart asking her opinion about fibbing to the FBI.


And lastly there is our Resident of The White House, MushHead Joe. He may have the IQ of instant mashed potatoes, but he does have chutzpah. While busy storing classified documents next to his car. He had his rival and our former president arrested for possessing classified documents at his residence.


Victor Davis Hanson looks at our divided country. Two Sets of Laws for Two Americas

Two sets of laws now operate in an increasingly unrecognizable America.

Consider the matter of unlawfully removing and storing classified papers.

Donald Trump may go to prison for removing contested White House files to his home.

So far, Joe Biden seems exempt from just such legal jeopardy.

But as a senator and vice president with no right, as does a president, to declassify files, Biden removed and, as a private citizen, kept for years classified files in unsecured locations.

Biden's team strangely revealed the unlawful removals after years of silence.

It did so because the Biden administration found itself in the untenable position of prosecuting the former president for "crimes" that the current president committed as well -- albeit far earlier and longer.


So we continue on our slippery slope race to Banana Republic Status. And if I knew a way to throw on the brakes, by God I would.


Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at 11:00 AM




Comments

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1 Hmm

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 08, 2023 10:56 AM (aD39U)

2 Abolish The FBI.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 08, 2023 10:57 AM (5L/TD)

3 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 08, 2023 11:00 AM (Zz0t1)

4 “Based on the totality of the circumstances and all of the information known to the Government at this time, we consider the matter closed.”
++++
What a delightful statement. Not "he didn't do it" or "we don't think we could win" or anything like that. Just that they can't be bothered. He was doing the good work and they're not going to pursue him for it.

Hilarious, in a "fall of nations" kind of way.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 08, 2023 11:01 AM (WkNQM)

5 It does tell us 'we the people' do not run this country.

Posted by: Puddinhead at August 08, 2023 11:02 AM (3FiQa)

6 I heard CBD was getting reconstructive surgery after...how do I put this delicately...an intimate encounter between him and his sous vide apparatus.

Posted by: Just a rumor...but I haven't seen him deny it! at August 08, 2023 11:02 AM (q1Zxb)

7 Hiya MisHum !

Posted by: JT at August 08, 2023 11:02 AM (T4tVD)

8 Haven't heard anything about Joe's docs in weeks...on purpose, I'm sure.

Posted by: BignJames at August 08, 2023 11:02 AM (AwYPR)

9 "Berger got off with 2 misdemeanor convictions and a sentence of Please don't do that again Sandy. Mkay?"

President who gave Sandy Berger that sweetheart deal: W.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 08, 2023 11:03 AM (/iWhV)

10 Morning.

Posted by: Robert at August 08, 2023 11:03 AM (1Yy3c)

11 hiya

Posted by: JT at August 08, 2023 11:03 AM (T4tVD)

12 Two sets of laws now operate in an increasingly unrecognizable America.
Consider the matter of unlawfully removing and storing classified papers.

Donald Trump may go to prison for removing contested White House files to his home.
So far, Joe Biden seems exempt from just such legal jeopardy.

++++
VDH sort of missed the point.

There are *not* "two sets of laws" or even two standards of law. There is still just one set of laws. The ruling class doesn't have a second set of *real* laws or anything like that.

There is just one set of laws, but only group - the non-ruling-class - is subject to them. The other group has no laws at all. Total absence.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 08, 2023 11:03 AM (WkNQM)

13 Hope all is well in CBDland !

Posted by: JT at August 08, 2023 11:04 AM (T4tVD)

14 Good Morning Mis Hum.
Have to say that your choice of gorilla suits you.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 08, 2023 11:04 AM (t/2Uw)

15 Not cruel enough by half, VDH.

Be Better.

Posted by: garrett at August 08, 2023 11:04 AM (SJqZJ)

16 I heard that its National CBD Day. So, he’s got a lot of parades to be Grand Master of.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 08, 2023 11:04 AM (xTRSc)

17 I posted this in the last thread but I might as well repost cuz...cuz.

Whatever you do, don't chop up onions while reading this.

https://tinyurl.com/yh3yxn5e

Posted by: Robert at August 08, 2023 11:04 AM (1Yy3c)

18 Commenting present

Posted by: Skip at August 08, 2023 11:05 AM (Yqtqd)

19 Posted by: Just a rumor...but I haven't seen him deny it! at August 08, 2023 11:02 AM (q1Zxb)

He is learning to accept maple syrup on French toast of all things

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 08, 2023 11:05 AM (JFa+T)

20 Whelp.....Looks like off to the ER.

I'm tired.....

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 08, 2023 11:06 AM (Zz0t1)

21 Yay, Surly Pundit!

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 08, 2023 11:06 AM (AW0uW)

22 Whelp.....Looks like off to the ER.

I'm tired.....
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 08, 2023 11:06 AM (Zz0t1)
++++
Prayers up for you and your dad, Sponge.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 08, 2023 11:06 AM (WkNQM)

23 He is learning to accept maple syrup on French toast of all things

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 08, 2023 11:05 AM (JFa+T)

Yeah, but is he eating it?

Posted by: BignJames at August 08, 2023 11:06 AM (AwYPR)

24 20 I’m sorry, Sponge. Hang in there.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 08, 2023 11:07 AM (xTRSc)

25 16 I heard that its National CBD Day. So, he’s got a lot of parades to be Grand Master of.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 08, 2023 11:04 AM (xTRSc)

On a dildo float.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 08, 2023 11:07 AM (IF2IV)

26 There is just one set of laws, but only group - the non-ruling-class - is subject to them. The other group has no laws at all. Total absence.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 08, 2023 11:03 AM (WkNQM)

Very good point. For example, the DOJ is doing everything it can to make sure that Joe and Hunter are completely predicted from the consequences of some of the highest levels of treason that have ever occurred in this countries history.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 08, 2023 11:07 AM (i9ffA)

27 There are *not* "two sets of laws" or even two standards of law. There is still just one set of laws. The ruling class doesn't have a second set of *real* laws or anything like that.

There is just one set of laws, but only group - the non-ruling-class - is subject to them. The other group has no laws at all. Total absence.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at


Don't get me going on Rep. Ilhan Nuhr vs. Rep. George Santos

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 08, 2023 11:08 AM (JFa+T)

28 Reduxx: GERMANY: Sex Education Group Recommends Daycares Create “Sexual Games” and Nude “Exploration Rooms”

https://tinyurl.com/k5mazxvk

Via Ed Driscoll at Insty.

Posted by: Robert at August 08, 2023 11:08 AM (1Yy3c)

29 9 "Berger got off with 2 misdemeanor convictions and a sentence of Please don't do that again Sandy. Mkay?"

And he lost his clearances for a period that just coincidently expired in time for him to participate in the next Dem campaign.

Posted by: Fox 2! at August 08, 2023 11:09 AM (Fj1Uw)

30 Two sets of laws? Nah, brah.

We have one set of laws.

And one ecosystem of lawlessness.

Our country is simply divided into who lives under which.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 08, 2023 11:09 AM (KbCG3)

31 Pretty much all of them suck rotten eggs.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 08, 2023 11:09 AM (Z8Zd8)

32 >>Reduxx: GERMANY: Sex Education Group Recommends Daycares Create “Sexual Games” and Nude “Exploration Rooms”


What
the
$%#@

Posted by: Lizzy at August 08, 2023 11:09 AM (avru5)

33 It's the crummiest banana republic evah.

No riots in the capitol city, no politicians running into the dark forests, chased by manchette wielding citizens. No politico adorned lampposts. No mustachioed, beret wearing, pistol packing strongman pointing and giving orders.

I'm so disappointed in this so called banana republic.

It's a soy-infused banana drum circle at this point.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 08, 2023 11:09 AM (Q4IgG)

34

Dow Jones Industrial Average (^DJI)
35,069.26 -403.87 (-1.14%)
As of 11:09AM EDT. Market open.

Posted by: DJIA Deathwatch at August 08, 2023 11:09 AM (aD39U)

35 What a rude ape.

Posted by: spindrift at August 08, 2023 11:09 AM (iG1Nf)

36 "On a dildo float."

Dildo Float collides with Oscar Meyer Weinermobile.

Hilarity ensues.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 08, 2023 11:10 AM (isNL8)

37 Reduxx: GERMANY: Sex Education Group Recommends Daycares Create “Sexual Games” and Nude “Exploration Rooms”

https://tinyurl.com/k5mazxvk

Via Ed Driscoll at Insty.
Posted by: Robert at August 08, 2023 11:08 AM (1Yy3c)
++++
Parents will either:
1. Comply and go along with it, enthusiastically or not
2. Take their kids out immediately
3. Burn the place to the ground

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 08, 2023 11:10 AM (WkNQM)

38 28 Reduxx: GERMANY: Sex Education Group Recommends Daycares Create “Sexual Games” and Nude “Exploration Rooms”

https://tinyurl.com/k5mazxvk

Via Ed Driscoll at Insty.
Posted by: Robert at August 08, 2023 11:08 AM (1Yy3c)

“Button, button, who’s got the button?”

Posted by: Fox 2! at August 08, 2023 11:10 AM (Fj1Uw)

39 Back in my Conservative Treehouse days, Sundance did a great job of exposing Mark Warner for being a leaking sack of crap.

Literally and figuratively.

And though the name escapes me, it was Warner's buddy who was sleeping with some young reporter (I think for Buzzfeed) and providing her with classified materials.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 08, 2023 11:11 AM (KbCG3)

40 Chris Matthews described Sandy Berger's actions as "sloppy."

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 08, 2023 11:11 AM (63Dwl)

41 Not cruel enough by half, VDH.

Be Better.
Posted by: garrett at August 08, 2023 11:04 AM (SJqZJ)


VDH is like Trump. A reformer, not a revolutionary.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 08, 2023 11:11 AM (AW0uW)

42 Clean out the GOP. That's all this is about. The GOP is the only real enemy.

Almost everything we don't like, the GOP wants.

Any amount of opposition from the GOP would stop the maj of this cold.

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 08, 2023 11:12 AM (Wcm38)

43 C'mon and rage

Posted by: DB - at August 08, 2023 11:12 AM (geLO8)

44 I was reflecting this morning on rather trivial story, but one that reflects how institutions fall apart gradually, and then suddenly. I don't care about college football these days, but it's been a bit fascinating to read how surprised everyone in the Media is at the collapse of the PAC-12. It's been in trouble for years, of course, but the people running it were promising new deals, new money, and big revival constantly right up until last week, and every reporter covering that segment believed them.

and then, in one 5 hour period last Friday, the whole thing collapsed, and now it's all over but the crying. As I said, gradually, and then suddenly. That's how big things fail. The funny part is how shocked all of its supporters are.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 08, 2023 11:13 AM (i9ffA)

45 I heard CBD was getting reconstructive surgery after...how do I put this delicately...an intimate encounter between him and his sous vide apparatus.

Quick, everyone, pour maple syrup on your French toast.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 08, 2023 11:13 AM (ZGrMX)

46 FJB

That is all

Posted by: Zeera. 'We want fun and we wanna get wasted!' at August 08, 2023 11:13 AM (u/nTb)

47 In what movie did Burt Reynolds say "we're a banana republic with color TV!"

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko stuff at August 08, 2023 11:13 AM (5Tbx2)

48 We've long been in the age of "The accusation is the conviction" for certain crimes, and especially for certain people. I see no path for this nation going forward.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at August 08, 2023 11:14 AM (H9sxy)

49 There are *not* "two sets of laws" or even two standards of law. There is still just one set of laws. The ruling class doesn't have a second set of *real* laws or anything like that.

There is just one set of laws, but only group - the non-ruling-class - is subject to them. The other group has no laws at all. Total absence.
Posted by: Joe Mannix
---------
It is called oligarchy and oligarchs use the law as a tool to attack their rivals while ignoring it themselves. But, a rotten society produces a rotten political system. What the 60's and 70's produced was a rotten society based on unchecked human desires rather than virtue.

Posted by: whig at August 08, 2023 11:14 AM (bk5GW)

50 The Ceausescus eventually got justice.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 08, 2023 11:14 AM (0/y+K)

51 I don’t think there’s enough substance left to even qualify us as a banana republic anymore.

At this point, we’re just the discarded, moldy banana-peel republic.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 08, 2023 11:15 AM (xTRSc)

52 In what movie did Burt Reynolds say "we're a banana republic with color TV!"
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko stuff at August 08, 2023 11:13 AM (5Tbx2)

Buckaroo Banzai. At timestamp 45:24.

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 08, 2023 11:15 AM (Wcm38)

53 >>There is just one set of laws, but only group - the non-ruling-class - is subject to them. The other group has no laws at all. Total absence.

Axshully, I would argue there is no law for those who oppose the regime, only consequences. Trump had ever right to take the documents he did under the Presidential Records Act. He broke no laws and at worst the issue with the government's librarian is a civil matter not criminal. Yet they are trying to twist the law, with the help of their propaganda organ we know as the media, to ignore the facts and make Trump into a criminal.

Biden broke multiple laws by taking and keeping documents. It makes no difference that he gave some back when the FBI finally got around to asking. He was only a Senator and then VP when he illegally took the documents and those are felonies.

A far more interesting question to me is exactly what documents did Trump take and why was the regime so determined to get them back? Odd that issue is never really discussed.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 08, 2023 11:15 AM (ZLI7S)

54 There are *not* "two sets of laws" or even two standards of law. There is still just one set of laws. The ruling class doesn't have a second set of *real* laws or anything like that.

There is just one set of laws, but only group - the non-ruling-class - is subject to them. The other group has no laws at all. Total absence.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 08, 2023 11:03 AM (WkNQM)

I would replace the word "law" with "legal processes". What is really under attack is Justice. Rogue DAs, rogue judges, rogue US Attorneys, rogue FBI, rogue IRS are undermining the US legal system, applying legal processes to political enemies while ignoring or "deeming" a process to be a sufficient resolution of the "law" for political affiliates.

Posted by: mrp at August 08, 2023 11:15 AM (rj6Yv)

55 The Ceausescus eventually got justice.

A spellable name?

Posted by: Archimedes at August 08, 2023 11:15 AM (eOEVl)

56 The only reason Berger was charged was his mode of theft was so over the top even the Dems couldn’t brush it off completely. They did the best that could be done though.

Hillary created a false dossier and used it to claim the election was stolen. That’s criminal , not free speech as in the case of Trump.

Posted by: polynikes at August 08, 2023 11:15 AM (MNhXM)

57 48 We've long been in the age of "The accusation is the conviction" for certain crimes, and especially for certain people. I see no path for this nation going forward.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm
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There is a distinction between the regime and the people. There is no path going forward for the current political arrangements and beliefs but the people can change those when needed or desired.

Posted by: whig at August 08, 2023 11:16 AM (bk5GW)

58 I don't remember the moron who coined the phrase 'Banana Republicans' but it is so apt. I have read that McConnell and Romney to name two have not received good receptions at their last speaking engagements. I imagine Christie won't either. People should show up at these events with cans with signs on them labeled 'Tar' and see through sacks of feathers. Torches would be a good touch.

Posted by: Cheri at August 08, 2023 11:16 AM (oiNtH)

59 And Trump was the only one who by law could have those documents, yet he's the one being prosecuted.

Remember the NYT (or WaPo) admitted that Hillary broke many laws, but then said her losing in 2016 should be punishment enough, so wouldn't that be the same as Trump losing in 2020?

But then again even these don't use the twisted logic as the NYC case where Trump is charged with a crime that can only be a crime if it's connected to another crime, but they can't actually say what the original crime was because there wasn't any.

Posted by: Rbastid at August 08, 2023 11:16 AM (5acdM)

60 Posted by: Tom Servo at August 08, 2023 11:13 AM (i9ffA)

I've been kinda' sorta' watching this...will there be "super-conferences" with 20+ teams?

Posted by: BignJames at August 08, 2023 11:16 AM (AwYPR)

61 A far more interesting question to me is exactly what documents did Trump take and why was the regime so determined to get them back? Odd that issue is never really discussed.

Didn't they say once the documents were about KEEEV? That seems to be the most likely thing.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 08, 2023 11:16 AM (ZGrMX)

62 Axshully, I would argue there is no law for those who oppose the regime, only consequences. ...
Posted by: JackStraw at August 08, 2023 11:15 AM (ZLI7S)
++++
Perhaps so. The law is the justification for it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 08, 2023 11:17 AM (WkNQM)

63 I'm on vacay with my family. I served them all pancakes with maple syrup this morning. Lots of maple syrup.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 08, 2023 11:17 AM (WoDmS)

64 Biden broke multiple laws by taking and keeping documents. It makes no difference that he gave some back when the FBI finally got around to asking. He was only a Senator and then VP when he illegally took the documents and those are felonies.

A far more interesting question to me is exactly what documents did Trump take and why was the regime so determined to get them back? Odd that issue is never really discussed.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 08, 2023 11:15 AM (ZLI7S)

Ummm excuse me this is a Rules Based Order and not a Law Based Order. Words matter.

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 08, 2023 11:17 AM (Wcm38)

65 The MIT researchers who developed the system say that their supercapacitor could eventually be incorporated into the concrete foundation of a house, where it could store a full day’s worth of energy while adding little (or no) to the cost of the foundation and still providing the needed structural strength.

When capacitors fail they go with a bang. Old style televisions were notorious for this kind of failure, the loud bang which preceded the magic smoke was usually caused by capacitors suffering catastrophic dielectric failure, and releasing all their stored energy in a fraction of a second.

What concerns me is, if a TV capacitor explodes, abruptly releasing a few joules of energy, you spill your beer and curse a bit. But if a 10KWh household super capacitor goes, that’s 36 million joules of energy – equivalent to 8.6Kg of TNT, enough to turn your house into a sizeable crater.

10KW (10,000 watt hours) x 3600 seconds in an hour = 36,000,000 joules of energy
36,000,000 joules / 4,184 joules / gram = 8,604g = 8.6Kg (18.9lbs) of TNT

Posted by: SMOD at August 08, 2023 11:18 AM (RHGPo)

66 McCabe got his retirement reinstated, back pay and all his legal bills reimbursed. He’s #1 on my list .

Posted by: polynikes at August 08, 2023 11:18 AM (MNhXM)

67 > A far more interesting question to me is exactly what documents did Trump take and why was the regime so determined to get them back? Odd that issue is never really discussed.
Posted by: JackStraw
_____________

I've wondered about this too. There was quite an over-the-top effort to retrieve them... and now an equal effort to punish him for those documents.

They obviously transcend 'just' the *biden crime syndicate.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 08, 2023 11:19 AM (Q4IgG)

68 Collidge sportsball is in trouble? Wottapitty.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 08, 2023 11:19 AM (0/y+K)

69 Growing quite weary of one article after another just repeating the same litany of hypocrisies and outright crimes that the Democrats keep getting away with, while the interlocutor simply throws up his hands and says there’s nothing to be done. Sorry to seem like I’m picking on you, MisHum, you’re hardly the only conservative writer to do this. The way I see it, the only way we’re going to change things is to redirect all that energy going into these exhaustive summaries of “our story so far” and start figuring out how we can change the story moving forward. Is there a single blog or online publication on the right dedicated to that?

Posted by: Rusty Trawler at August 08, 2023 11:19 AM (1gif2)

70 58 I'm thinking Christie will be in the first three to drop out. Asa Hutchinson is dumb enough not to drop out. Pence thinks he is on a mission. It will be two of the guys nobody ever heard of and Christie, wanting to spend more time with his family and a twelve piece snack from Kentucky Fried.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at August 08, 2023 11:20 AM (0EOe9)

71 What concerns me is, if a TV capacitor explodes, abruptly releasing a few joules of energy, you spill your beer and curse a bit. But if a 10KWh household super capacitor goes, that’s 36 million joules of energy – equivalent to 8.6Kg of TNT, enough to turn your house into a sizeable crater.

10KW (10,000 watt hours) x 3600 seconds in an hour = 36,000,000 joules of energy
36,000,000 joules / 4,184 joules / gram = 8,604g = 8.6Kg (18.9lbs) of TNT
Posted by: SMOD at August 08, 2023 11:18 AM (RHGPo)

Holy shit awesome I'll take two. Ring me up!

I love that EVs and this stuff goes mighty bang. Cool as shit.

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 08, 2023 11:20 AM (Wcm38)

72 And if I knew a way to throw on the brakes, by God I would.


Posted by: Misanthropic

General Strike.

Posted by: Not voting our way out at August 08, 2023 11:20 AM (pHPwR)

73 I wonder how many classified documents TFG took when he vacated the WH? Millions probably, since he will be building a multi-story "library".

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 08, 2023 11:20 AM (WoDmS)

74 PJM: 'I Literally Look Like Minnie Mouse!': Disney Partners With Crossdressing TikTok Star to Push Girls' Apparel

https://tinyurl.com/cptw8udu

Via Stephen Green at Insty.

Posted by: Robert at August 08, 2023 11:20 AM (1Yy3c)

75 That is what irritates me about fucking VDH. He recites the crimes with all the passion of an overripe tomato.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at August 08, 2023 11:21 AM (pohLc)

76 Welp, the mask does come off sometimes - this guy is in DC and in politics:

@OmariJHardy Aug 7
We should have hanged every single person who fought for the Confederacy. We should have jailed everyone else who aided the Confederate cause. We are still living the consequences of our going easy on those traitors. This is also an obligatory "Andrew Johnson sucked" post.


Keep that in mind when they smear all Trump voters as "white nationalists" (i.e. Confederates).

Posted by: Lizzy at August 08, 2023 11:21 AM (avru5)

77 General Strike.

Posted by: Not voting our way out at August 08, 2023 11:20 AM (pHPwR)

stick thru the spokes

Posted by: BignJames at August 08, 2023 11:21 AM (AwYPR)

78 MisHum: You write that you're not sure when the U.S. political began to fail. But it's very easy. How long has Joey the Vegetable been in one office or another? Mitch McConnell? Bernie Sanders? Diane Feinstein? Nancy Pelosi? Look at our Congress and realize how long too many of these people have been in office, most without spending a single day working a real job or being responsible for meeting a payroll.

Joey the Vegetable has been in office for fifty years. Can we pin the decline and fall of what used to be America to the moment he was first sworn into office? Since then, we've just added barnacle after barnacle.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin -- Persian cats are nothing more than 24/7 shedding machines. at August 08, 2023 11:21 AM (B7rlW)

79 >>I wonder how many classified documents TFG took when he vacated the WH? Millions probably, since he will be building a multi-story "library".


I recall the archivist assigned to manage his papers was shocked - shocked! - at how little he turned over. Said it was missing all sorts of typical, key docs that presidential papers contain.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 08, 2023 11:22 AM (avru5)

80 I've been kinda' sorta' watching this...will there be "super-conferences" with 20+ teams?
Posted by: BignJames
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The money compels it which is why sainted Notre Dame gave up its independence to join the Big Ten several years ago.

With the allowance of players to make some money via appearances, regalia, etc, we are moving to a semi professional model of men's football and basketball--big conferences mean more eyeballs and greater market share of TV time. Essentially though, the NCAA is belatedly recognizing what already existed de facto.

Posted by: whig at August 08, 2023 11:22 AM (bk5GW)

81 The PAC-4 isn't going to disappear, I don't think. They can pick up a half dozen less serious teams and sort of be a new MAC. Not a Power 5 but still respectable.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 08, 2023 11:23 AM (aD39U)

82 70 58 I'm thinking Christie will be in the first three to drop out. Asa Hutchinson is dumb enough not to drop out. Pence thinks he is on a mission.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at August 08, 2023 11:20 AM (0EOe9)

First to drop with little to no fanfare:

Francis Suarez, Will Hurd, Doug Burgum

Next to fall but with a bit of resistance:

Hutchinson, Scott

Hanging on to drain more resources:

Christie, Haley

Last pretender:

Pence

Close but no cigar:

DeSantis, Vivek

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 08, 2023 11:23 AM (KbCG3)

83 The Big “Ten” is up to what, now, like 15 schools? Ridiculous.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 08, 2023 11:23 AM (xTRSc)

84 But if a 10KWh household super capacitor goes, that’s 36 million joules of energy – equivalent to 8.6Kg of TNT, enough to turn your house into a sizeable crater.

10KW (10,000 watt hours) x 3600 seconds in an hour = 36,000,000 joules of energy
36,000,000 joules / 4,184 joules / gram = 8,604g = 8.6Kg (18.9lbs) of TNT
Posted by: SMOD at August 08, 2023 11:18 AM (RHGPo)

Capacitors are mainly a very precisely made geometric construct. Two layers of a conductor, separated by a layer of insulator. I don't see how one could pour such a geometric construct, especially around a matrix of steel re-bar.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 08, 2023 11:23 AM (0/y+K)

85 Hey, MisHum. Any word on the TXMoMo for you?

Posted by: creeper at August 08, 2023 11:24 AM (cTCuP)

86 "...............With liberty and justice for all. It feels fine when you say it. It sounds good when you hear it. The concept noble. And once upon a time our country strived to provide liberty and justice for all.

No more. And it hasn't been that way for quite some time. I'm not sure when the erosion began. But it has been ongoing for a number of years. And what was once the Shining City on a Hill is now a fractured sludge tank of political power, greed and disdain of what is right and wrong. ."

The rot began almost immediately. A little at first, then some more, and now it has grown at an exponential rate to where we are now.

Posted by: davidt at August 08, 2023 11:24 AM (SYTee)

87 Is there a single blog or online publication on the right dedicated to that?
Posted by: Rusty Trawler
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Start local, expand to state focus, and let fedgov fall into the sea. Make them irrelevant and that is happening faster and faster due to fedgov overspending and the fact that interest payments will soon swallow all federal spending.

Posted by: whig at August 08, 2023 11:24 AM (bk5GW)

88 When capacitors fail they go with a bang. Old style televisions were notorious for this kind of failure, the loud bang which preceded the magic smoke was usually caused by capacitors suffering catastrophic dielectric failure, and releasing all their stored energy in a fraction of a second.

When tube-era capacitors failed they did go with a bang, because the construction was primitive (actual wax paper!) and they were subjected to high voltages, and often not-entirely-flat DC (400 volts for the main B+ rail in a tube TV wasn't uncommon). After that only late 70s/early 80s across-the-AC-line caps (the infamous RIFA brand, what are now "type X" and "type Y" safety caps) did any banging, which is why it's a pain to track down failures.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 08, 2023 11:24 AM (ZGrMX)

89 Laws? Laws? We don't need no stinking laws!

The Political Class

Posted by: Archer at August 08, 2023 11:25 AM (gmo/4)

90 >The money compels it which is why sainted Notre Dame gave up its independence to join the Big Ten several years ago.

ND joined the ACC for basketball and remains independent for football.

Posted by: mr tmz at August 08, 2023 11:25 AM (rJ48h)

91 General Strike.

Posted by: Not voting our way out at August 08, 2023 11:20 AM (pHPwR)

stick thru the spokes
Posted by: BignJames

I prefer Sabots. The 12 ga type.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Ungovernable at August 08, 2023 11:25 AM (tjmGT)

92 I wonder how many classified documents TFG took when he vacated the WH? Millions probably, since he will be building a multi-story "library".
Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 08, 2023 11:20 AM (WoDmS)
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TFG most likely took anything that incriminates him in shady/illegal behavior. He's no genius, but he's smart enough to avoid a paper trail whenever possible. Those documents are now just confetti.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 08, 2023 11:25 AM (YIVH2)

93 >>Didn't they say once the documents were about KEEEV? That seems to be the most likely thing.

My guess is they were about the entire Russia hoax which includes Ukraine, the Bidens, Obama, the FBI, the CIA and a bunch more.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 08, 2023 11:26 AM (ZLI7S)

94 But if a 10KWh household super capacitor goes, that’s 36 million joules of energy – equivalent to 8.6Kg of TNT, enough to turn your house into a sizeable crater.


1.21 Gigawatts? 1.21 gigawatts!

Posted by: Archer at August 08, 2023 11:26 AM (gmo/4)

95 I still smell Chicago behind the prosecutions of Trump. I think the main thrust is to allow a Dem controlled purple state to keep Trump off the ballot at the last minute. It's exactly the kind of thing Obama would and did do.

Somewhere in that ValJar/Obama/Pritzker orbit there be monsters.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at August 08, 2023 11:26 AM (z+89e)

96 78 The early 90s doesn't sound too far back, but we're talking thirty years. I was watching an early 90s show on one of the retro channels, and CNN was on in the background. Grassley and another of the still with us lifers was on the screen.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at August 08, 2023 11:26 AM (0EOe9)

97 but if meatball becomes the nominee, the left will stand down and dismantle their evil machine

it's all about Trump his hideousness

Posted by: REDACTED at August 08, 2023 11:27 AM (us2H3)

98 When tube-era capacitors failed they did go with a bang, because the construction was primitive (actual wax paper!) and they were subjected to high voltages, and often not-entirely-flat DC (400 volts for the main B+ rail in a tube TV wasn't uncommon). After that only late 70s/early 80s across-the-AC-line caps (the infamous RIFA brand, what are now "type X" and "type Y" safety caps) did any banging, which is why it's a pain to track down failures.
Posted by: Ian S. at August 08, 2023 11:24 AM (ZGrMX)
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We used to have a lot of fun in electronics class in high school making those pop.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 08, 2023 11:27 AM (YIVH2)

99 Posted by: whig at August 08, 2023 11:22 AM (bk5GW)

ND has "partial" membership in ACC.

Posted by: BignJames at August 08, 2023 11:27 AM (AwYPR)

100 FJB

That is all
Posted by: Zeera. 'We want fun and we wanna get wasted!' at August 08, 2023 11:13 AM (u/nTb

Have you seen the reception Barry received recently someplace in the Mid-West? Let’s Go Brandon, indeed!

Posted by: Fox 2! at August 08, 2023 11:27 AM (Fj1Uw)

101 I hear that capacitor technology is in flux.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 08, 2023 11:27 AM (xTRSc)

102 Just a reminder. The "Bipartisan Safer Communities Act" that is now being weaponized to steal our Second Amendment rights was approved by Blunt, Burr, Cassidy, Cornyn, Collins, Ernst, Graham, McConnell, Murkoski, Portman, Romney, Tillis, Toomey and Young in the senate. The House list of collaborators is too long to list.

Remember they assured you this wasn't an attack on the Second Amendment. Meanwhile it has been used to eliminate firearms and archery programs I. Schools and now the ATF will use it to outlaw private gun sales.

Not a single one of these senators has pushed backed on any of this activity. Not one. Pusillanimous Liars.

This is a list of people who need to be driven from the senate if we are to survive as a Republic. They constantly sell out our liberties.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 08, 2023 11:28 AM (SAX5G)

103 28 Reduxx: GERMANY: Sex Education Group Recommends Daycares Create “Sexual Games” and Nude “Exploration Rooms”

https://tinyurl.com/k5mazxvk

Via Ed Driscoll at Insty.
Posted by: Robert at August 08, 2023 11:08 AM (1Yy3c)

Goes back to that sick fuck Kentler and those other commie weirdos promoting child sex and p3dophilia. He's supposed to be a cautionary tale not a role model. Jeebus.

Posted by: It's a full court press on child grooming. Why now? at August 08, 2023 11:28 AM (q1Zxb)

104 The money compels it which is why sainted Notre Dame gave up its independence to join the Big Ten several years ago.


The money compels you! The money compels you!

- Notre Dame Regents and Exorcists

Posted by: Archer at August 08, 2023 11:28 AM (gmo/4)

105 General Strike.

Posted by: Not voting our way out at August 08, 2023 11:20 AM (pHPwR)

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Shut. It. Down.

Posted by: ShainS -- We're Happy Ace's Geriatric Club ... at August 08, 2023 11:28 AM (f6UzA)

106 The Big “Ten” is up to what, now, like 15 schools? Ridiculous.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 08, 2023 11:23 AM (xTRSc)

Maybe 18, soon?

Posted by: BignJames at August 08, 2023 11:28 AM (AwYPR)

107 Someone crossed the tranny and Disney streams. Get set to hurl.

https://tinyurl.com/2dhjbswy

Posted by: Archimedes at August 08, 2023 11:28 AM (eOEVl)

108 I'm not sure when the erosion began.

16th & 17th Amendments - weakening the power of the states.
Pendleton Act - began the process of a permanent bureaucracy.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 08, 2023 11:29 AM (z99Zw)

109 75 That is what irritates me about fucking VDH. He recites the crimes with all the passion of an overripe tomato.
Posted by: Xipe Totec
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Traditional academics can be oddly dispassionate which was a virtue back in the day. So, historians like VDH recognize what time it is but can't reject the habits of a lifetime. For the most part, historians can tell you what happened and why but don't look to them for policy prescriptions going forward (most of history's lessons are tragic warnings btw).

Posted by: whig at August 08, 2023 11:29 AM (bk5GW)

110 94 But if a 10KWh household super capacitor goes, that’s 36 million joules of energy – equivalent to 8.6Kg of TNT, enough to turn your house into a sizeable crater.

thats a lot of Jules. Jim

Posted by: REDACTED at August 08, 2023 11:30 AM (us2H3)

111 That is what irritates me about fucking VDH. He recites the crimes with all the passion of an overripe tomato.

He means well, but he's a John Dickinson when we need a Samuel Adams.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 08, 2023 11:30 AM (AW0uW)

112 Which is why I maintain that you can ignore every word DeSantis says about the illegal prosecution of Trump:
His act of staying in the race says he thinks some part of it is legitimate.

Like it or not, fair or not, but the Democrats are using DeSantis as a barometer of Republican support for their prosecution of Trump.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 08, 2023 11:30 AM (TzW+Y)

113 100 FJB

That is all
Posted by: Zeera. 'We want fun and we wanna get wasted!' at August 08, 2023 11:13 AM (u/nTb

Have you seen the reception Barry received recently someplace in the Mid-West? Let’s Go Brandon, indeed!
Posted by: Fox 2! at August 08, 2023 11:27 AM (Fj1Uw)

The poor guy who won the race where Let's Go Brandon originated basically had his career ruined by it.

Dude raced for a family-owned team that consistently outperformed its equipment. That win was a massive accomplishment (he was basically a AAA baseball team playing in the majors).

He had to avoid being political and attaching himself to the chant. Heading into this season, a crypto "Let's Go Brandon" coin tried to sponsor his car but NASCAR nixed it.

Not sure he even made a start this year. Brutal. Joe really does ruin everything.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 08, 2023 11:30 AM (KbCG3)

114 but if meatball becomes the nominee, the left will stand down and dismantle their evil machine

it's all about Trump his hideousness


Meatball! Hilarious!!! You're a real Oscar Wilde.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 08, 2023 11:30 AM (eOEVl)

115 "So we continue on our slippery slope race to Banana Republic Status. And if I knew a way to throw on the brakes, by God I would."

No, no, let's do this shit.

The people responsible for this and the foreign invaders they've deliberately enabled aren't going anywhere. Arresting the slide isn't going to fix anything - we've still ended up where we've ended up.

Get some place defensible, surrounded by as many people like yourself as you can, read up on your history, and get your shit into the correct number of buckets.

Posted by: somedood at August 08, 2023 11:30 AM (rdEIA)

116 It’s even better: Barry was at a rally in Michigan to Witchmer when this happened!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FB6SL883PfY

Posted by: Fox 2! at August 08, 2023 11:31 AM (Fj1Uw)

117 He means well, but he's a John Dickinson when we need a Samuel Adams.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 08, 2023 11:30 AM (AW0uW)


or a Thomas Paine

Posted by: Archer at August 08, 2023 11:31 AM (gmo/4)

118 Reduxx: GERMANY: Sex Education Group Recommends Daycares Create “Sexual Games” and Nude “Exploration Rooms”

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I see dead pedos ... a lot of dead pedos.

Posted by: ShainS -- We're Happy Ace's Geriatric Club ... at August 08, 2023 11:31 AM (f6UzA)

119 We used to have a lot of fun in electronics class in high school making those pop.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 08, 2023 11:27 AM (YIVH2)
++++
Deliberately popping a Rifa cap is a cruel thing to do. Those things *stink*

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 08, 2023 11:31 AM (WkNQM)

120 This persecutor clown, Jack Smith, charged PDJT with a documents "crime" Democrats are far more obviously guilty of, and "defrauding the government" for the crime of believing he won the election.

Smith will go down in history, to the extent he is remembered, as a ridiculous tool of the budding uniparty tyranny.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 08, 2023 11:31 AM (7ZMPf)

121 "76 Welp, the mask does come off sometimes - this guy is in DC and in politics:

@OmariJHardy Aug 7
We should have hanged every single person who fought for the Confederacy. We should have jailed everyone else who aided the Confederate cause. We are still living the consequences of our going easy on those traitors. This is also an obligatory "Andrew Johnson sucked" post.

Keep that in mind when they smear all Trump voters as "white nationalists" (i.e. Confederates).
Posted by: Lizzy at August 08, 2023 11:21 AM (avru5)"

Am I the only person missing the irony here that they're talking about Democrats?

Posted by: somedood at August 08, 2023 11:31 AM (rdEIA)

122 The erosion is always constant. But a huge paradigm shift and regime change occurred in 2008.

That's when Barry and Intel gianed control of Finance in exchange for not impoverishing everyone on Wall Street.

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 08, 2023 11:32 AM (Wcm38)

123 Remember the crying chick from San Fran who was spit on? Well, she's back and she says the perp wasn't an UPP (Under Privileged Person) but rather an over privileged well dressed white man.

https://tinyurl.com/2jtysaju

Over privileged well dressed white men are the worst!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 08, 2023 11:32 AM (FVME7)

124 I like it.

POTUS has absolute authority to declassified anything he wants (no matter how reckless other may think it is) merely by walking out of the SCIF with it and waving it at the press corps... or stuffing in his sock and taking it home for further review later.

Anyone, which everyone, below that level has little/no personal discretion to take and/or declassified at will.

I like how they are dragging their balls across Trump's chin* by these charges.

*metaphorically speaking.
They are actually doing the ball drag across his supporters faces.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at August 08, 2023 11:32 AM (nqeOw)

125 Which is why I maintain that you can ignore every word DeSantis says about the illegal prosecution of Trump:
His act of staying in the race says he thinks some part of it is legitimate.

Like it or not, fair or not, but the Democrats are using DeSantis as a barometer of Republican support for their prosecution of Trump.


Let me ask you an honest question. Suppose Trump doesn't get the nom for health reasons (this is purely hypothetical). Will you then vote for RDS or just let the country continue going down the tubes?

Posted by: Archimedes at August 08, 2023 11:32 AM (eOEVl)

126 ND has "partial" membership in ACC.
Posted by: BignJames
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Made an error, thanks for the correction. Confused Penn State with Notre Dame I guess.

Posted by: whig at August 08, 2023 11:33 AM (bk5GW)

127 Omari Hardy would it be okay to say we should have sent every black person back to Africa after the Civil War?

Posted by: polynikes at August 08, 2023 11:33 AM (MNhXM)

128 It’s even better: Barry was at a rally in Michigan to Witchmer when this happened!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FB6SL883PfY

Posted by: Fox 2! at August 08, 2023 11:31 AM (Fj1Uw)

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LMAO. They should have chanted "Let's Go Barry!"

Posted by: ShainS -- We're Happy Ace's Geriatric Club ... at August 08, 2023 11:33 AM (f6UzA)

129 Which is why I maintain that you can ignore every word DeSantis says about the illegal prosecution of Trump:
His act of staying in the race says he thinks some part of it is legitimate.


I'm sorry, what? Quitting the race in protest is literally the "strongly worded letter" we make fun of around here.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 08, 2023 11:34 AM (ZGrMX)

130 Am I the only person missing the irony here that they're talking about Democrats?
Posted by: somedood at August 08, 2023 11:31 AM (rdEIA

Nope.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 08, 2023 11:34 AM (IF2IV)

131 108 I'm not sure when the erosion began.

16th & 17th Amendments - weakening the power of the states.
Pendleton Act - began the process of a permanent bureaucracy.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 08, 2023 11:29 AM (z99Zw)

18th amendment took away our booze
19th amendment took away our balls

Posted by: Fuck that Wilson guy at August 08, 2023 11:34 AM (q1Zxb)

132 123 I saw Over Privileged Well Dressed White Man open for ZZ Top. Honest. That's where they got the idea for the song.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at August 08, 2023 11:34 AM (0EOe9)

133 I went to hear RFK, Jr. yesterday in NH. He seemed sane. He tempered his climate change position by saying you can’t get people to agree on data on a graph, but you can get them to agree on amelioration for other reasons, e.g., we shouldn’t be leveling mountains in the Appalachians to get at the coal.
Not that his chances of winning/surviving are exceptional.
He also said no way to a Trump vp spot. Said his marriage would not survive it.

Posted by: RI Red at August 08, 2023 11:34 AM (EnT0Y)

134 Lol. DoJ has already let it leaked out they're considering federal charges against DeSantis for shipping illegals out of the state. Do you really think the weaponization of the justice system is just something they will solely use against Trump?

Posted by: Marcus T at August 08, 2023 11:34 AM (SAX5G)

135 Let me ask you an honest question. Suppose Trump doesn't get the nom for health reasons (this is purely hypothetical). Will you then vote for RDS or just let the country continue going down the tubes?
Posted by: Archimedes
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DeSantis has already damaged himself as a candidate for 2024 with his 2020 election was normal, the 6 weeks abortion law, etc.

Watch for Youngkin to be the darkhorse if Trump falters.

Posted by: whig at August 08, 2023 11:35 AM (bk5GW)

136 Luxury!

We didn't have electronics class at my HS. We didn't have electricity back then.


Posted by: Archer at August 08, 2023 11:35 AM (gmo/4)

137 Reduxx: GERMANY: Sex Education Group Recommends Daycares Create “Sexual Games” and Nude “Exploration Rooms”

I have a strong stomach and am unfazed by gore, but this makes me nauseous.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at August 08, 2023 11:35 AM (pohLc)

138 Which is why I maintain that you can ignore every word DeSantis says about the illegal prosecution of Trump:
His act of staying in the race says he thinks some part of it is legitimate.

Like it or not, fair or not, but the Democrats are using DeSantis as a barometer of Republican support for their prosecution of Trump.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 08, 2023 11:30 AM (TzW+Y)


As I mentioned before, my tinfoil hat take on Meatball is that he was hoping either the DoJ or the Deep State would take out Trump so that he could cruise to the nomination without pissing off the MAGA base.

If you look at it that way, his refusal to do anything about the Mar-A-Lago raid or to do anything more than cluck his tongue over the Trump indictments makes perfect sense. He's outed himself as a GOP-e stooge better than anyone else could.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 08, 2023 11:35 AM (AW0uW)

139 Welp, the mask does come off sometimes - this guy is in DC and in politics:

@OmariJHardy Aug 7
We should have hanged every single person who fought for the Confederacy. We should have jailed everyone else who aided the Confederate cause. We are still living the consequences of our going easy on those traitors. This is also an obligatory "Andrew Johnson sucked" post.

Keep that in mind when they smear all Trump voters as "white nationalists" (i.e. Confederates).
Posted by: Lizzy at August 08, 2023 11:21 AM (avru5)

Scratch a liberal find a totalitarian.

I had to look this guy up. He retwatted some chick saying something like, "Winning power means using it to make people's lives better." Sure. Sure.

Posted by: Robert at August 08, 2023 11:36 AM (1Yy3c)

140 The erosion of the US can be traced back many decades, before the current political class was even around.

But the most significant thing that changed us into this quasi banana republic was the formation of the CIA and the permanent deep state. The Church Committee didn't end the abuses of the CIA and related intelligence operations, it drove them underground and they are far worse today than anything the Church Committee investigated.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 08, 2023 11:36 AM (ZLI7S)

141 Lol. DoJ has already let it leaked out they're considering federal charges against DeSantis for shipping illegals out of the state. Do you really think the weaponization of the justice system is just something they will solely use against Trump?

For what is probably the thousandth time when this canard is raised, NO, nobody believes they won't try to go after RDS as well.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 08, 2023 11:36 AM (eOEVl)

142 DeSantis has already damaged himself as a candidate for 2024 with his 2020 election was normal, the 6 weeks abortion law, etc.

I mean, Trump wants you to drink Bud Light, get octuple-vaxxed, and consoom all Disney if we're playing that game.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 08, 2023 11:36 AM (ZGrMX)

143 Made an error, thanks for the correction. Confused Penn State with Notre Dame I guess.
Posted by: whig at August 08, 2023 11:33 AM (bk5GW)

Far as I know ND never covered up for a boy-raper to protect its football program.

Posted by: College sportsball uber alles, for some at August 08, 2023 11:36 AM (q1Zxb)

144 Will you then vote for RDS or just let the country continue going down the tubes?
Posted by: Archimedes at August 08, 2023 11:32 AM (eOEVl)

I will never again vote for a GOP approved candidate.

Unless and until the GOP is reformed, I will never play their perverse cuck games.

It's not a lesser of two evils choice. To fail to understand that at this point is just mind-boggling.

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 08, 2023 11:36 AM (Wcm38)

145 Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 08, 2023 11:30 AM (TzW+Y)

So now the Trump cult is demanding everyone get out of the race or you hate America.

Posted by: polynikes at August 08, 2023 11:36 AM (MNhXM)

146 On a dildo float.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory

Like, with root beer?
- Hillary

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at August 08, 2023 11:37 AM (nqeOw)

147 The rot began almost immediately. A little at first, then some more, and now it has grown at an exponential rate to where we are now.
Posted by: davidt at August 08, 2023 11:24 AM (SYTee)

The Democrats insisted on having no language in the Declaration of Independence which might reflect badly on the practice of slavery, and we appeased them by removing it, mainly because the French needed assurances that the colonies were united before their navy got involved.

So the Democrats have been corrupting this country with their values from before it even was its own country.

Posted by: Methos at August 08, 2023 11:37 AM (Dnobf)

148 He [RFK, Jr.] also said no way to a Trump vp spot. Said his marriage would not survive it.

Posted by: RI Red at August 08, 2023 11:34 AM (EnT0Y)

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Funny.

"Why is he putting his marriage ahead of the country!"

/

Posted by: ShainS -- We're Happy Ace's Geriatric Club ... at August 08, 2023 11:37 AM (f6UzA)

149 It can be lunch time

Posted by: Skip at August 08, 2023 11:38 AM (Yqtqd)

150 DeSantis has already damaged himself as a candidate for 2024 with his 2020 election was normal, the 6 weeks abortion law, etc.

Watch for Youngkin to be the darkhorse if Trump falters.


I disagree that RDS is as damaged as you think, but regardless, if he were replaced by Youngkin as Trump's top competitor, I can live quite happily with that.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 08, 2023 11:38 AM (eOEVl)

151 Bonk bonk on the head

Posted by: Dr. Varno at August 08, 2023 11:38 AM (X+Ku8)

152 "77 General Strike.

Posted by: Not voting our way out at August 08, 2023 11:20 AM (pHPwR)

stick thru the spokes
Posted by: BignJames at August 08, 2023 11:21 AM (AwYPR)"

It may be a lot spicer than that when the rubber really meets the road - bans on registering ICE vehicles, shutting down farmers, fuel bans/shortages/punitive taxes, that kind of stuff. The mid-level clowns the progs put in place to destroy stuff are dumb enough to put flyover Americans into a use-it-or-lose-it situation regarding things like technicals. I don't think we're even going to make it to a bit gun-grabber type trigger.

Posted by: somedood at August 08, 2023 11:39 AM (rdEIA)

153 Who would have thought that in 2023 PDT would be on my permanent prayer list with family and friends in poor health and those needing comfort after a loss. The world we live in where a guy with a uterus can give birth to a baby, a woman with balls can run in a beauty contest and a baby can be aborted as it's being born. Sad, sad, sad.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at August 08, 2023 11:39 AM (2NHgQ)

154 Made an error, thanks for the correction. Confused Penn State with Notre Dame I guess.
Posted by: whig at August 08, 2023 11:33 AM (bk5GW)


Quasimodo predicted all this.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at August 08, 2023 11:39 AM (X+Ku8)

155 Luxury!

We didn't have electronics class at my HS. We didn't have electricity back then.

Posted by: Archer at August 08, 2023 11:35 AM (gmo/4)

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We used slide rules and our analog computers were hydraulic!

Posted by: ShainS -- We're Happy Ace's Geriatric Club ... at August 08, 2023 11:40 AM (f6UzA)

156 131 108 I'm not sure when the erosion began.

16th & 17th Amendments - weakening the power of the states.
Pendleton Act - began the process of a permanent bureaucracy.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 08, 2023 11:29 AM (z99Zw)

18th amendment took away our booze
19th amendment took away our balls
Posted by: Fuck that Wilson
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The income tax preceded Wilson and first appeared during the Civil War. Scotus ruled it unconstitutional as a federal direct tax on individuals in violation of the taxation clause in the 1890's so the amendment was a rebuff to the court.

Most states, had by the time of the ratification of the 17th used referendums to pick senators rather than the legislatures which is why it was ratified easily. The greasy Gilded era had wealthy individuals or corporations directly bribing state legislators to get selected, sometimes, the seat sat vacant while partisans fought over who would get appointed, and so on.

Posted by: whig at August 08, 2023 11:40 AM (bk5GW)

157
I disagree that RDS is as damaged as you think, but regardless, if he were replaced by Youngkin as Trump's top competitor, I can live quite happily with that.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 08, 2023 11:38 AM (eOEVl)

You're ok with the Carlyle Group?

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 08, 2023 11:40 AM (Wcm38)

158 Remember the crying chick from San Fran who was spit on? Well, she's back and she says the perp wasn't an UPP (Under Privileged Person) but rather an over privileged well dressed white man.

Who was wearing a MAGA hat and shouted "This is MAGA Country" as he spit on her.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 08, 2023 11:40 AM (2tUFv)

159 Me-again actually looks pretty good in the sidebar link. Less stretchy-faced, somehow.

Posted by: spindrift at August 08, 2023 11:40 AM (iG1Nf)

160 >>> 28 Reduxx: GERMANY: Sex Education Group Recommends Daycares Create "Sexual Games" and Nude "Exploration Rooms"

https://tinyurl.com/k5mazxvk

Via Ed Driscoll at Insty.
Posted by: Robert at August 08, 2023 11:08 AM (1Yy3c)

I'm old enough to remember the 'stanic panic' of the 90s (or something) when several day care owners of that time were prosecuted for all sorts of horrible things...

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 08, 2023 11:40 AM (llON8)

161 Posted by: whig at August 08, 2023 11:35 AM (bk5GW)

What’s the etc ?

Posted by: polynikes at August 08, 2023 11:41 AM (MNhXM)

162 In regards to DeSantis, it's kind of interesting how we forget where we were a short time ago.

The 2022 mid-terms went over like a wet fart for republicans. The power of Trump didn't lead to massive victories or upsets, and the landscape seemed to have shifted away from him.

At the same time DeSantis was surging and throwing red meat to the crowds like he was a freaking lion tamer.

DeSantis' run didn't just come out of nowhere. Trump had an air of vulnerability at the same time DeSantis was acting on a very conservative platform.

You can say what you want about where we are now, but let's not forget how we got here.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 08, 2023 11:41 AM (KbCG3)

163 Well, fuck.

We're going to be moving.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 08, 2023 11:41 AM (LvTSG)

164
@OmariJHardy Aug 7
We should have hanged every single person who fought for the Confederacy.


Start hanging and the war starts back up.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 08, 2023 11:41 AM (63Dwl)

165 It's NOT two sets of laws!!!

It's not even one set of laws. It's just a world where they do whatever the fuck they want. Including setting up phony prosecutions under the *pretense* of law.

No slight on the article writer but IMO the more we call this a "double standard" or "hypocrisy", the further into the abyss we sink. It's not two standards. It's not even one standard.

They make up the rules that their enemies must supposedly follow, minute to minute. They twist and bend codified law to subjugate anyone in their way. And they follow no law. That's it.

Posted by: ... at August 08, 2023 11:41 AM (tR6mE)

166 Me-again actually looks pretty good in the sidebar link. Less stretchy-faced, somehow.

I thought she looked kind of ghoulish.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 08, 2023 11:41 AM (eOEVl)

167 I disagree that RDS is as damaged as you think, but regardless, if he were replaced by Youngkin as Trump's top competitor, I can live quite happily with that.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 08, 2023 11:38 AM (eOEVl)

I'd vote for Trump, DeSantis. Ramaswami, or Youngkin.. The rest of the rabble... No

Posted by: It's me donna at August 08, 2023 11:41 AM (bs+z0)

168 Have you seen the reception Barry received recently someplace in the Mid-West? Let’s Go Brandon, indeed!
Posted by: Fox 2!

I'm convinced that this means the end of Joe. (Say hello to President Kameltoe Harris!). If the Great and Wonderful Obama can't stop the chant, the writing is on the wall. Things to look for now. Will Joe throw Hunter under the bus in an attempt to save himself? Will Joe saber rattle us into WWIII in an attempt to save himself? Will he go quietly or will the Donks have to pry him out? Will he use poor health as an excuse to go?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 08, 2023 11:42 AM (FVME7)

169 It's not a double standard. It's just naked tyranny.

Posted by: ... at August 08, 2023 11:42 AM (tR6mE)

170 >>> 134 Lol. DoJ has already let it leaked out they're considering federal charges against DeSantis for shipping illegals out of the state. Do you really think the weaponization of the justice system is just something they will solely use against Trump?
Posted by: Marcus T at August 08, 2023 11:34 AM (SAX5G)

It worked great in Michigan. Time to roll it out nationwide!

Posted by: Top Men and Whammen of the Eff.Bee.EYE at August 08, 2023 11:42 AM (llON8)

171 @OmariJHardy Aug 7
We should have hanged every single person who fought for the Confederacy.

Start hanging and the war starts back up.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 08, 2023 11:41 AM (63Dwl)



I could be wrong but I think they are already dead.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 08, 2023 11:42 AM (aD39U)

172 After I got done with Megyn Kelly my whanger would look like a burned up matchstick.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at August 08, 2023 11:42 AM (pohLc)

173 I'd vote for Trump, DeSantis. Ramaswami, or Youngkin.

Agree, although in a perfect world, both Ramaswami and Youngkin would benefit from some seasoning in other government jobs.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 08, 2023 11:43 AM (eOEVl)

174 "I had to look this guy up. He retwatted some chick saying something like, "Winning power means using it to make people's lives better." Sure. Sure.
Posted by: Robert at August 08, 2023 11:36 AM (1Yy3c)"

It's much better to use power for your own benefit and to have a functioning culture and promote its values, than it is to be a bunch of limpdicks who get conned by GOPe hucksters into not exercising it because of muh principles.

But yeah, you do it with real intent, not spouting BS about "making people's lives better". You make YOUR life better. Fuck other people, honestly.

Posted by: somedood at August 08, 2023 11:43 AM (rdEIA)

175 172 After I got done with Megyn Kelly my whanger would look like a burned up matchstick.

sister friction, love addiction

Posted by: haysi fantaysi at August 08, 2023 11:43 AM (oY6Yp)

176 163 Well, fuck.

We're going to be moving.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 08, 2023 11:41 AM (LvTSG)

Do tell. Moving is the worst.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 08, 2023 11:43 AM (KbCG3)

177 I disagree that RDS is as damaged as you think, but regardless, if he were replaced by Youngkin as Trump's top competitor, I can live quite happily with that.
Posted by: Archimedes
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70 percent of Republicans believe 2020 election was stolen, DeSantis was already losing ground and then this week made the statement that Trump lost. That alone is enough for a lot of folks to say enough.

I wonder to some extent though whether DeSantis was purposefully sabotaged by his own political minders just like Sarah Palin was.

Posted by: whig at August 08, 2023 11:44 AM (bk5GW)

178 More armed MAGA supporters robbing a car just north of the Golden Gate Bridge:

https://tinyurl.com/mrdtdvf4

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 08, 2023 11:44 AM (2tUFv)

179 Posted by: Archimedes at August 08, 2023 11:43 AM (eOEVl)

I actually like Josh Hawley, but he's smart enough not to run this go round

Posted by: It's me donna at August 08, 2023 11:44 AM (bs+z0)

180 >>> 163 Well, fuck.

We're going to be moving.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 08, 2023 11:41 AM (LvTSG)

Wut??

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 08, 2023 11:44 AM (llON8)

181 We're going to be moving.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 08, 2023 11:41 AM (LvTSG)
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Seriously? Hopefully, not to a blue state.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 08, 2023 11:44 AM (EfQ2r)

182 Quasimodo predicted all this.
Posted by: Dr. Varno

Now that's a humdinger!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 08, 2023 11:44 AM (FVME7)

183 it appears the wheels may be coming off the wagon that is Harris County (Houston). The county judge has gone into hiding. Yesterday it was announced yesterday she would be taking a break to receive treatment for depression at an 'out pf state' facility. She's not been seen publicly in 3 weeks.
Three of her staff have been indicted over election cheating issues. Gov. Abbott has requested the secretary of state to get involved.
This is why I left four years ago.

Posted by: DanMan at August 08, 2023 11:44 AM (8uzBS)

184 Just curious, what specific theories floated by Powell, Giuliani, et al were proven demonstrably true to show the election was "stolen"? I'm genuinely interested.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 08, 2023 11:44 AM (SAX5G)

185 Well, fuck.

We're going to be moving.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 08, 2023 11:41 AM (LvTSG)


Where to?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 08, 2023 11:45 AM (AW0uW)

186 70 percent of Republicans believe 2020 election was stolen, DeSantis was already losing ground and then this week made the statement that Trump lost. That alone is enough for a lot of folks to say enough.

I wonder to some extent though whether DeSantis was purposefully sabotaged by his own political minders just like Sarah Palin was.


I think he's smarter than that, and I continue to think he has a strategy in mind with this. I'm not saying I agree with his strategy...

Posted by: Archimedes at August 08, 2023 11:45 AM (eOEVl)

187 Wayne Brady must need a hug.

https://tinyurl.com/yckd797y

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 08, 2023 11:45 AM (isNL8)

188 I wonder to some extent though whether DeSantis was purposefully sabotaged by his own political minders just like Sarah Palin was.
Posted by: whig at August 08, 2023 11:44 AM (bk5GW)

Yes. I like DeSantis. I would like to believe he got in over his head with some very bad ppl and sees no way out.

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 08, 2023 11:45 AM (Wcm38)

189 "176 163 Well, fuck.

We're going to be moving.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 08, 2023 11:41 AM (LvTSG)

Do tell. Moving is the worst.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 08, 2023 11:43 AM (KbCG3)"

Better than not moving when you needed to.

Posted by: somedood at August 08, 2023 11:45 AM (rdEIA)

190 Haven't heard hide nor peep about Barky having a unprotected warehouse of million documents waiting for that Presidential Library that might someday to get built.

Posted by: Skip at August 08, 2023 11:45 AM (Yqtqd)

191 I remember an interview of a British woman for the documentary "World at War" who lived in Germany when the Nazis came to power.

One thing she said stood out to me and it has since that time. She spoke about how the dictatorial gained power. She said something to the effect that the oppression came on like an anesthetic, a slow drip that took away ones rights so you almost didn't notice it until it was too late to do anything about it.

I will always remember that scene. Reminds me of what is happening in this country.




Posted by: Archer at August 08, 2023 11:45 AM (gmo/4)

192 I actually like Josh Hawley, but he's smart enough not to run this go round

Agree again. He has real potential.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 08, 2023 11:45 AM (eOEVl)

193 The erosion of the US can be traced back many decades, before the current political class was even around.

But the most significant thing that changed us into this quasi banana republic was the formation of the CIA and the permanent deep state. The Church Committee didn't end the abuses of the CIA and related intelligence operations, it drove them underground and they are far worse today than anything the Church Committee investigated.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 08, 2023 11:36 AM (ZLI7S)
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Tangentially, heard Christopher Rufo recently interviewed for his latest book "America's Cultural Revolution: How the Radical Left Conquered Everything."

The American Marxist cultural revolution of the '60s and '70s failed because they couldn't seize the means of PHYSICAL production.

They then retooled and seized upon Herbert Marcuse's strategy of taking over all the institutions beginning with the academy.

Now they've succeeded because they have effectively seized the means of KNOWLEDGE and COMMUNICATIONS production.

Posted by: ShainS -- We're Happy Ace's Geriatric Club ... at August 08, 2023 11:46 AM (f6UzA)

194 We'll be moving to the Charlotte area. Dolley is getting a job with a major bank that should amount to an effective $100,000 raise.

I'm going to push to move to the SC side. Her boss's boss lives on the SC side because of taxes, so that should help.

I just hate moving, and I don't want to leave Charleston.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 08, 2023 11:46 AM (LvTSG)

195 Will Joe saber rattle us into WWIII in an attempt to save himself?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 08, 2023 11:42 AM (FVME7)

I don't think FJB will do something like that to save himself. What I fear is that we give more and more weapons and munitions to Ukraine -F16s next -- that Russia will attack us. IIRC, didn't the US attack Iranian assets/troops for interfering in Iraq/Afghanistan? With that precedent established, why wouldn't Putin do the same thing?

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 08, 2023 11:46 AM (N39Ws)

196 >>Well, fuck.

>>We're going to be moving.


Please Karma, I don't ask for much. Let it be Rhode Island.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 08, 2023 11:46 AM (ZLI7S)

197 'They hate us. They really hate us.'

Posted by: Eromero at August 08, 2023 11:46 AM (vlMl3)

198 Trump unable to complete the race for way, way out there speculation of health reasons is not a good reason to be in the race now.
Ron never should have gotten into the race in the first place.

I've said before, I'll concede every criticism of Trump is true and accurate.
And it means nothing when in the face of such an illegal and gross abuse of power that they are using to deny us the right to a free, fair, honest election.
Ron vs. Trump in a primary where there are zero prosecutions of Trump; the deep state not dumping loads of shit on the scale?
I'm fine with that. We're not there. We're way past that.
Now?
Trump is a "f you."
Ron is a "may I have another?"

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 08, 2023 11:46 AM (TzW+Y)

199 Bonk bonk on the head
Posted by: Dr. Varno


Now there's something we can all rally around.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 08, 2023 11:47 AM (Xrfse)

200 190 Haven't heard hide nor peep about Barky having a unprotected warehouse of million documents waiting for that Presidential Library that might someday to get built.
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All roads lead to Sparky. So far, the suits don't have the balls for it but the Sparky Balloon needs to be popped.

Posted by: Puddinhead at August 08, 2023 11:47 AM (DmtxH)

201 "I'm going to push to move to the SC side. Her boss's boss lives on the SC side because of taxes, so that should help. "

I thought NC had a lower effective income tax rate? Am I wrong or is it property taxes?

Posted by: Marcus T at August 08, 2023 11:47 AM (63An5)

202 Haven't heard hide nor peep about Barky having a unprotected warehouse of million documents waiting for that Presidential Library that might someday to get built.

Posted by: Skip at August 08, 2023 11:45 AM (Yqtqd)

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They're needed for the future Lightbringer Presidential Outhouse.

Posted by: ShainS -- We're Happy Ace's Geriatric Club ... at August 08, 2023 11:48 AM (f6UzA)

203 Posted by: DanMan at August 08, 2023 11:44 AM (8uzBS)

This is good news.

Posted by: polynikes at August 08, 2023 11:48 AM (MNhXM)

204 Trump is a "f you."
Ron is a "may I have another?"


Yeah...no.

Posted by: Disney at August 08, 2023 11:48 AM (eOEVl)

205 We'll be moving to the Charlotte area. Dolley is getting a job with a major bank that should amount to an effective $100,000 raise.

That kind of scratch will buy a lot of copies of Prometheus.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 08, 2023 11:48 AM (AW0uW)

206 Well, fuck.

We're going to be moving.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 08, 2023 11:41 AM (LvTSG)

Texas is nice. A bit warm. Okay, really warm. Really really really warm.

Posted by: Robert at August 08, 2023 11:48 AM (1Yy3c)

207 201 "I'm going to push to move to the SC side. Her boss's boss lives on the SC side because of taxes, so that should help. "

I thought NC had a lower effective income tax rate? Am I wrong or is it property taxes?
Posted by: Marcus T at August 08, 2023 11:47 AM (63An5)

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According to WalletHub:

"North Carolina residents have a bigger tax burden than bordering South Carolina. In a new study, WalletHub found that the annual state and local taxes for a median North Carolina household was $6,302. In South Carolina, it's $5,288."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 08, 2023 11:48 AM (LvTSG)

208 I must have Youngkin confused with someone else. I thought he was one of the Spineless Ones. No?

Posted by: Emmie at August 08, 2023 11:48 AM (/GefC)

209 Wayne Brady must need a hug.

https://tinyurl.com/yckd797y
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice

Too bad. I always liked him.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 08, 2023 11:48 AM (FVME7)

210 205 We'll be moving to the Charlotte area. Dolley is getting a job with a major bank that should amount to an effective $100,000 raise.

That kind of scratch will buy a lot of copies of Prometheus.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 08, 2023 11:48 AM (AW0uW)

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Just think of the projector and the 3D projection!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 08, 2023 11:49 AM (LvTSG)

211 What’s the etc ?
Posted by: polynikes

Ukraine squish. Once again, about 70 percent of the GOP voters have had it with shipping money over there, let alone direct action. Dems and big GOP donors support it.

His denouncements of Dem lawfare aimed at Trump and his supporters also don't have much to say for them. DeSantis, like Walker, need both publicity and big donor money to overcome the rest of the field. To do that, he had to demonstrate that he was a strong conservative (like Trump) but without Trump's flaws. But, the flaws that the donors and GOPe see are not the same as what the voters see. You can't please both donors/GOPe and the GOP voters--they want different things.

Posted by: whig at August 08, 2023 11:49 AM (bk5GW)

212 Didn't they say once the documents were about KEEEV? That seems to be the most likely thing.
Posted by: Ian S. at August 08, 2023 11:16 AM (ZGrMX

I thought it was nuculear secrets. You know, 20 year old copies of the SIOP, that sort of thing.

Posted by: Fox 2! at August 08, 2023 11:49 AM (D+VWC)

213 Well, fuck.

We're going to be moving.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 08, 2023 11:41 AM (LvTSG)
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So soon? Work-related?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 08, 2023 11:49 AM (WkNQM)

214 160 I'm old enough to remember the 'stanic panic' of the 90s

this is about me, isn't it?

Posted by: detective stan wojciehowicz at August 08, 2023 11:50 AM (oY6Yp)

215 94 We'll be moving to the Charlotte area. Dolley is getting a job with a major bank that should amount to an effective $100,000 raise.

I'm going to push to move to the SC side. Her boss's boss lives on the SC side because of taxes, so that should help.

I just hate moving, and I don't want to leave Charleston.
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James, take a look at Concord - just up the road from Charlotte. Its still a quaint small town and easily commutable to Charlotte. Think you'd like it.

Posted by: Puddinhead at August 08, 2023 11:50 AM (DmtxH)

216 I must have Youngkin confused with someone else. I thought he was one of the Spineless Ones. No?
Posted by: Emmie at August 08, 2023 11:48 AM (/GefC)

He's gov of Virginia and a part of the Bush Faction Carlyle Group.

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 08, 2023 11:50 AM (Wcm38)

217 One thing she said stood out to me and it has since that time. She spoke about how the dictatorial gained power. She said something to the effect that the oppression came on like an anesthetic, a slow drip that took away ones rights so you almost didn't notice it until it was too late to do anything about it.

I will always remember that scene. Reminds me of what is happening in this country.

Posted by: Archer at August 08, 2023 11:45 AM (gmo/4)

Romans 13: 1 Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2 Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves.

Submit to the authoritarian authorities, they're God's servants!

Posted by: Honestly I have a really hard time reconciling this one. Hitler? Mao? Stalin? Hirohito? at August 08, 2023 11:50 AM (q1Zxb)

218 "According to WalletHub:

"North Carolina residents have a bigger tax burden than bordering South Carolina. In a new study, WalletHub found that the annual state and local taxes for a median North Carolina household was $6,302. In South Carolina, it's $5,288."

Huh. Who knew. Have to look at that.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 08, 2023 11:50 AM (63An5)

219 I must have Youngkin confused with someone else. I thought he was one of the Spineless Ones. No?
Posted by: Emmie

ohio is that sack of shit dewine

Posted by: BruceWayne at August 08, 2023 11:50 AM (CIS44)

220 I must have Youngkin confused with someone else. I thought he was one of the Spineless Ones. No?

No. And he's really smart, both intellectually, and in a political sense. He rode parental fury at school system arrogance to the Governor's Mansion, even when almost everyone, myself included, thought he was doomed.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 08, 2023 11:50 AM (eOEVl)

221 That's a big raise, TJM. Congrats to you and Dolley.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 08, 2023 11:50 AM (WkNQM)

222 I wonder to some extent though whether DeSantis was purposefully sabotaged by his own political minders just like Sarah Palin was.
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Chris Christie's former campaign manager is just the guy you'd choose if you wanted someone with their finger on the pulse of conservatives.....

Oh well, the third campaign manager now should be just the charm ....

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 08, 2023 11:50 AM (TzW+Y)

223 We'll be moving to the Charlotte area. Dolley is getting a job with a major bank that should amount to an effective $100,000 raise.

I'm going to push to move to the SC side. Her boss's boss lives on the SC side because of taxes, so that should help.

I just hate moving, and I don't want to leave Charleston.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 08, 2023 11:46 AM (LvTSG)

One of my brothers and his family lived in Fort Mill. Nice area, at least it was 10 years ago.

Posted by: mrp at August 08, 2023 11:50 AM (rj6Yv)

224 215 James, take a look at Concord - just up the road from Charlotte. Its still a quaint small town and easily commutable to Charlotte. Think you'd like it.
Posted by: Puddinhead at August 08, 2023 11:50 AM (DmtxH)

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I really don't want to change car tags. REALLY.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 08, 2023 11:50 AM (LvTSG)

225 I wonder to some extent though whether DeSantis was purposefully sabotaged by his own political minders just like Sarah Palin was.
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DeSantis is no Palin. Not by a country mile.

And don't forget Palin was the first prominent R they did it to. Then, to the extent they could, they did it again to Trump.

Anyone in that position who doesn't know by now what "they" are, is either intentionally or unintentionally ignorant.

Posted by: ... at August 08, 2023 11:50 AM (tR6mE)

226 "184 Just curious, what specific theories floated by Powell, Giuliani, et al were proven demonstrably true to show the election was "stolen"? I'm genuinely interested.
Posted by: Marcus T at August 08, 2023 11:44 AM (SAX5G)"

Setting aside state-specific irregularities (leaky toilets in GA, mis-printed ballots not scanning in AZ only in red districts, 300k late voters in PA all registered in blocks of 20-30k on exactly the same date 30 years ago who'd never voted until 2020...). And setting aside the screaming and censorship from the progs, which is what is known as a clue to anyone who has dealt with a 3-year-old stealing cookies -

The simple analysis on randomness of late-reported vote totals screams "fraud". The math on this is pretty ironclad and the people doing it showed their work - and the effect is limited to precisely those states, and those reported totals after a specific time late a night. This is a slam-dunk.

Posted by: somedood at August 08, 2023 11:51 AM (rdEIA)

227 Just curious, what specific theories floated by Powell, Giuliani, et al were proven demonstrably true to show the election was "stolen"? I'm genuinely interested.
Posted by: Marcus T at August 08, 2023 11:44 AM (SAX5G)

None are necessary.

When typically the vote count continues until it's done, we saw seven states where Trump was well ahead stop the count simultaneously. Then when we woke up in the morning, they all admitted that they had continued counting unsupervised and Biden was magically ahead by just enough to avoid automatic recounts.

No more information is necessary to know that the election was stolen. More would be useful in terms of charging the conspirators, if there was a legal system, but not to know *that* it happened.

Posted by: Methos at August 08, 2023 11:51 AM (Dnobf)

228 I miss Oregon Muse.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at August 08, 2023 11:51 AM (xcxpd)

229 >>All roads lead to Sparky. So far, the suits don't have the balls for it but the Sparky Balloon needs to be popped.

Obama is out of office, he doesn't have any real power anymore. Politicians come and go but the bureaucracy remains.

We spend a lot of time talking about politicians corrupting the institutions. I think we should spend more time looking at the institutions who allow people like Obama to come to power.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 08, 2023 11:51 AM (ZLI7S)

230 Charlotte is Example A of a formerly conservative city now transformed by the influx of libtard northerners.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 08, 2023 11:51 AM (EfQ2r)

231 "Now they've succeeded because they have effectively seized the means of KNOWLEDGE and COMMUNICATIONS production.
Posted by: ShainS -- We're Happy Ace's Geriatric Club ... at August 08, 2023 11:46 AM (f6UzA)"

They've destroyed most of those means. They've seized control of the regulation and credentialing of what is left, but that destruction means it won't matter. Shit is going down.

Posted by: somedood at August 08, 2023 11:52 AM (rdEIA)

232 Just curious, what specific theories floated by Powell, Giuliani, et al were proven demonstrably true to show the election was "stolen"? I'm genuinely interested.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 08, 2023 11:44 AM


Well a Michigan Judge ruled that the election laws were not followed for absentee ballots in the 2020 election.....Wisconsin supreme court ruled the State violated it's election laws during the 2020 election in regards to absentee ballots.......Pennsylvania supreme court ruled the change to no excuse absentee ballots for the 2020 election was unconstitutional.....


Both trump and guiliani were screaming about illegal drop box and mail in ballots being counted. Most of the shenanigans that occurred during the 2020 election revolved around incomplete, altered, blank, duplicate, fraudulent or otherwise spoiled absentee ballots that the States counted when their own laws said they should not have accepted or counted.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 08, 2023 11:52 AM (QNSds)

233 Just curious, what specific theories floated by Powell, Giuliani, et al were proven demonstrably true to show the election was "stolen"? I'm genuinely interested.
Posted by: Marcus T at August 08, 2023 11:44 AM (SAX5G)

None. Both were complete failures.

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 08, 2023 11:52 AM (Wcm38)

234 194 We'll be moving to the Charlotte area. Dolley is getting a job with a major bank that should amount to an effective $100,000 raise.

I'm going to push to move to the SC side. Her boss's boss lives on the SC side because of taxes, so that should help.

I just hate moving, and I don't want to leave Charleston.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 08, 2023 11:46 AM (LvTSG)

Charleston is an awesome town and I would hate to leave it too. But...an extra hundred grand!

Posted by: Kinda sweetens the deal a bit at August 08, 2023 11:52 AM (q1Zxb)

235 We'll be moving to the Charlotte area. Dolley is getting a job with a major bank that should amount to an effective $100,000 raise.

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That should be enough to raise another child for at least a year.

/Congrats to Dolley, and my condolences on having to move.

Posted by: ShainS -- We're Happy Ace's Geriatric Club ... at August 08, 2023 11:53 AM (f6UzA)

236 it's not that meatball has hurt himself for future political aspirations

it's that he has revealed himself as a small venue politician

and for a ambitious man like meatball, that is a bitter pill to swallow

he's thinking now "shoulda never left congress, I'd be on my way to speaker"

Posted by: REDACTED at August 08, 2023 11:53 AM (us2H3)

237 224 215 James, take a look at Concord - just up the road from Charlotte. Its still a quaint small town and easily commutable to Charlotte. Think you'd like it.
Posted by: Puddinhead at August 08, 2023 11:50 AM (DmtxH)

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I really don't want to change car tags. REALLY.
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So you're looking into SC suburb of Charlotte?

Posted by: Puddinhead at August 08, 2023 11:53 AM (xSnmX)

238 Just curious, what specific theories floated by Powell, Giuliani, et al were proven demonstrably true to show the election was "stolen"? I'm genuinely interested.
Posted by: Marcus T at August 08, 2023 11:44 AM (SAX5G)
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None that I am aware of, especially Powell.

But the numbers alone demonstrate it, as does the six-state stop. There was so much obvious chicanery going on that if it were something else - a financial crime or embezzlement scheme, for example - the statistics alone would have been enough to convict.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 08, 2023 11:53 AM (WkNQM)

239 Dolley is getting a job with a major bank that should amount to an effective $100,000 raise.

Holy schnikes. Ice cream's on this guy!

Posted by: spindrift at August 08, 2023 11:53 AM (iG1Nf)

240 >>> People should show up at these events with cans with signs on them labeled 'Tar' and see through sacks of feathers. Torches would be a good touch.
Posted by: Cheri

The 'tar' process much more sensitive than most people know. Proper selection of tar is paramount. Thick enough to offer generous coating when heated. Heated enough to flow but not burn an slough the skin off. Flashpoint low enough to readily ignite after feathers applied.

Done correctly it is a carnival for the senses - the mutli-colored flames, the orders of tar and burnt feathers, and the shouts of excitement when lit.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at August 08, 2023 11:53 AM (nqeOw)

241 I wonder to some extent though whether DeSantis was purposefully sabotaged by his own political minders just like Sarah Palin was.
Posted by: whig at August 08, 2023 11:44 AM (bk5GW)

Sabotage may be too strong a word. I think he was faced with big money donors who made demands on him that made it awfully hard for him to thread the needle.

Maybe he should get some credit for not completely caving to Gope, like some of those other guys have. They're all in on war, they're all in on putting Trump in jail, they're squishy on Covid, etc. and so on.

DeSantis tried to deflect on Ukraine, but then embraced war with China. Sorry, that's your Gope right there, trying to triangulate. No thanks. And then being squishy on the stolen election nonsense... buddy, you're done. Go back home already.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 08, 2023 11:54 AM (dGCAG)

242 237 I really don't want to change car tags. REALLY.
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So you're looking into SC suburb of Charlotte?
Posted by: Puddinhead at August 08, 2023 11:53 AM (xSnmX)

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Fort Mill, probably, which has seemed nice the one time I drove through it on the interstate.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 08, 2023 11:54 AM (LvTSG)

243 And I can’t believe they let Rutgers into the Big Ten. Maryland was bad enough, but effing RUTGERS??????

And I won’t even mention Pedd State.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 08, 2023 11:54 AM (xTRSc)

244 @TJM, I'm sorry and congratulations both.

Charleston is in the top two places for this November's trip with the wife.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at August 08, 2023 11:54 AM (xcxpd)

245 Another advantage of moving to Charlotte from Charleston is no more Lindsey Graham.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 08, 2023 11:54 AM (eOEVl)

246 One thing she said stood out to me and it has since that time. She spoke about how the dictatorial gained power. She said something to the effect that the oppression came on like an anesthetic, a slow drip that took away ones rights so you almost didn't notice it until it was too late to do anything about it.

I will always remember that scene. Reminds me of what is happening in this country.

Posted by: Archer

Gradually, then suddenly.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 08, 2023 11:54 AM (FVME7)

247 I just hate moving, and I don't want to leave Charleston."

No shit.

Hard to do a Low Country MoMe as it is.

Now with Jack's going downhill, and you moving out of the area.....

Well, crap!

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 08, 2023 11:54 AM (isNL8)

248 I miss Oregon Muse.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at August 08, 2023 11:51 AM (xcxpd)

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Ditto. The original Gorilla Pundit!

Posted by: ShainS -- We're Happy Ace's Geriatric Club ... at August 08, 2023 11:54 AM (f6UzA)

249 Romans 13: 1 Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2 Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves.

Submit to the authoritarian authorities, they're God's servants!
Posted by: Honestly I have a really hard time reconciling this one. Hitler? Mao? Stalin? Hirohito? at August 08, 2023 11:50 AM (q1Zxb)

Try reading the entire rest of the Bible, particularly God's commentary in 1 Samuel 8 about Israel's fall into the sin of government.

Posted by: Methos at August 08, 2023 11:55 AM (Dnobf)

250 Kash Patel: Trump WILL Call Nancy Pelosi as WITNESS in January 6th Case

Posted by: SMOD at August 08, 2023 11:55 AM (RHGPo)

251 244 @TJM, I'm sorry and congratulations both.

Charleston is in the top two places for this November's trip with the wife.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at August 08, 2023 11:54 AM (xcxpd)

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The guy who actively recruited her is a SVP. He's bending rules wherever he can, so the timeline looks like it should be December at the earliest to move. They'll let her work remote until then. Maybe we can extend it to May in order for Junior to finish out the school year, so it's not like we have to start packing today.

But still,...le sigh...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 08, 2023 11:55 AM (LvTSG)

252 that Russia will attack us. IIRC, didn't the US attack Iranian assets/troops for interfering in Iraq/Afghanistan? With that precedent established, why wouldn't Putin do the same thing?
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed


Won't happen when 3rd party actors can make hell for us on overseas pressure points. Think about it; why go after your big bad when you can make them dive into another Afghanistan?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 08, 2023 11:55 AM (IG4Id)

253 What am I? Chopped liver?

Posted by: Sandy Koufax at August 08, 2023 11:56 AM (vR5mE)

254 Another advantage of moving to Charlotte from Charleston is no more Lindsey Graham.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 08, 2023 11:54 AM (eOEVl)

Thom Tillis ain't no peach.

Posted by: mrp at August 08, 2023 11:56 AM (rj6Yv)

255 Kash Patel: Trump WILL Call Nancy Pelosi as WITNESS in January 6th Case
Posted by: SMOD at August 08, 2023 11:55 AM (RHGPo)
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That will be interesting. She's borderline incoherent. Will she get some zoom-juice like they give Biden? Will they keep her off the sauce? Will she vaguely lie until she gets hostile? Will it happen at all?

Taking all bets!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 08, 2023 11:56 AM (WkNQM)

256 Even better, I got to shake hands with RFK’s campaign manager!
You know, the mailman’s son!

Posted by: RI Red at August 08, 2023 11:56 AM (EnT0Y)

257 The guy who actively recruited her is a SVP. He's bending rules wherever he can, so the timeline looks like it should be December at the earliest to move. They'll let her work remote until then. Maybe we can extend it to May in order for Junior to finish out the school year, so it's not like we have to start packing today.

But still,...le sigh...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

just set it all on fire and buy new

Posted by: BruceWayne at August 08, 2023 11:56 AM (CIS44)

258 We're going to be moving.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Where?

Posted by: lin-duh at August 08, 2023 11:56 AM (eb+9G)

259 Another advantage of moving to Charlotte from Charleston is no more Lindsey Graham.

Graham doesn't look so good lately. The AIDS must be catching up with him.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 08, 2023 11:56 AM (ZGrMX)

260 According to WalletHub:

"North Carolina residents have a bigger tax burden than bordering South Carolina. In a new study, WalletHub found that the annual state and local taxes for a median North Carolina household was $6,302. In South Carolina, it's $5,288."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 08, 2023 11:48 AM (LvTSG)

I don't know how granular the Wallethub data gets, but I would suggest you study cost of living vs amenities for a number of small towns on either side of the State line, that are within commuting distance to Charlotte. If you can buy a much nicer home with a smaller mortgage in the higher-tax state, you might still come out ahead.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 08, 2023 11:57 AM (0/y+K)

261 I'm reluctant to wade into the Trump vs DeSantis wars, but, did any of the things DeSantis has done which conservatives applaud hurt the GOPe graft flow?

Posted by: davidt at August 08, 2023 11:57 AM (SYTee)

262 Just curious, what specific theories floated by Powell, Giuliani, et al were proven demonstrably true to show the election was "stolen"? I'm genuinely interested.
Posted by: Marcus T at August 08, 2023 11:44 AM (SAX5G)
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None that I am aware of, especially Powell.

But the numbers alone demonstrate it, as does the six-state stop. There was so much obvious chicanery going on that if it were something else - a financial crime or embezzlement scheme, for example - the statistics alone would have been enough to convict.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 08, 2023 11:53 AM (WkNQM)

I don't have any interest in parsing words on this. Yes, Team Trump botched the legal case. Obviously. It allowed the narrative to be spread on the left, that all of this was disproven.

It was NOT disproven. It never got tried in court, but yeah, what they tried to bring was a failure, and if anyone running for office right now can't articulate that, without sounding like they're saying "that election was fair," they're not fit for office.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 08, 2023 11:57 AM (dGCAG)

263 Posted by: whig at August 08, 2023 11:49 AM (bk5GW)

I disagree with your interpretations of his positions. He has said he wants accountability of the aid we are sending to Ukraine , not that we should just keep sending money.

And nothing but dropping out in protest of the lawfare being used against Trump will be a strong enough statement for Trump supporters.

And no one says anything about the Trump position’s on Disney and Bud Light where 90% of Republicans have the opposite position.

Posted by: polynikes at August 08, 2023 11:57 AM (MNhXM)

264 257 just set it all on fire and buy new
Posted by: BruceWayne at August 08, 2023 11:56 AM (CIS44)

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I'm going to get my home theater. I know that at least, especially with the timeline the employer has offered her.

We'll go new build and at least get the space for it, and then build it up new.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 08, 2023 11:57 AM (LvTSG)

265 "But the numbers alone demonstrate it, as does the six-state stop. There was so much obvious chicanery going on that if it were something else - a financial crime or embezzlement scheme, for example - the statistics alone would have been enough to convict.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 08, 2023 11:53 AM (WkNQM)"

I genuinely ask because both Trump and the GOP need to put this into materially proven sound bites. I'm shocked they haven't done that yet. They get attacked over and over for the "stolen election" phrasing, yet nobody has responded in an effective way to turn this on the questioners (e.g. how can C County have 10 votes and only 5 residents?, etc).

This is their vocation and main purpose in life, yet nobody has done that, especially not Trump and he's going to get called on it sooner or later.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 08, 2023 11:58 AM (63An5)

266 That will be interesting. She's borderline incoherent. Will she get some zoom-juice like they give Biden? Will they keep her off the sauce? Will she vaguely lie until she gets hostile? Will it happen at all?

Taking all bets!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

If its before 9am she wont have had her first martini of the day, better make sure she is after lunch.

Posted by: BruceWayne at August 08, 2023 11:58 AM (CIS44)

267 This busty blonde lewdly posing in her underwear would definitely move for an extra $100k:
https://is.gd/CBJmsr

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 08, 2023 11:58 AM (WkNQM)

268 100k will buy a lot of SUV rear windows.

Posted by: spindrift at August 08, 2023 11:58 AM (iG1Nf)

269 That will be interesting. She's borderline incoherent. Will she get some zoom-juice like they give Biden? Will they keep her off the sauce? Will she vaguely lie until she gets hostile? Will it happen at all?

To make a maximum spectacle, he oughta call Fetterman as a witness. Then put Biden on the stand and hire a black guy to barge in and pretend to be Corn Pop.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 08, 2023 11:58 AM (ZGrMX)

270 I'm reluctant to wade into the Trump vs DeSantis wars, but, did any of the things DeSantis has done which conservatives applaud hurt the GOPe graft flow?
Posted by: davidt


How much Diz-knee money do you think the GOPe is raking in now?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 08, 2023 11:58 AM (IG4Id)

271 #252
So Joetato is going to wag the dog in Niger? Oh that's just great.

Posted by: torabora at August 08, 2023 11:59 AM (vR5mE)

272 I'm going to get my home theater. I know that at least, especially with the timeline the employer has offered her.

We'll go new build and at least get the space for it, and then build it up new.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

very nice, congrats

Posted by: BruceWayne at August 08, 2023 11:59 AM (CIS44)

273
Have you seen the reception Barry received recently someplace in the Mid-West? Let’s Go Brandon, indeed!
Posted by: Fox 2!

I'm convinced that this means the end of Joe. (Say hello to President Kameltoe Harris!). If the Great and Wonderful Obama can't stop the chant, the writing is on the wall. Things to look for now. Will Joe throw Hunter under the bus in an attempt to save himself? Will Joe saber rattle us into WWIII in an attempt to save himself? Will he go quietly or will the Donks have to pry him out? Will he use poor health as an excuse to go?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

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Report is, that was faked.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 08, 2023 11:59 AM (lCaJd)

274 Never thought about DeSantis getting the Trump treatment by Deep State minions.

Posted by: Skip at August 08, 2023 11:59 AM (Yqtqd)

275 None that I am aware of, especially Powell.

But the numbers alone demonstrate it, as does the six-state stop. There was so much obvious chicanery going on that if it were something else - a financial crime or embezzlement scheme, for example - the statistics alone would have been enough to convict.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 08, 2023 11:53 AM (WkNQM)

Agree but the legal team put together to present that case failed miserably.

Posted by: polynikes at August 08, 2023 11:59 AM (MNhXM)

276 Meatball got elected to be the gubna of Florida for a second term until january 2027.

2027. Not 2023 or 2024.

Now go back to tallahoochie and do your job.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 08, 2023 11:59 AM (5L/TD)

277 184 Just curious, what specific theories floated by Powell, Giuliani, et al were proven demonstrably true to show the election was "stolen"? I'm genuinely interested.
Posted by: Marcus T
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First, in the swing states, there was an option for for local election administrators to essentially edit votes and shred the original, evidence that voting history files had been tampered with where voters had been created, voted, and then the voter was erased leaving a ballot behind, tabulators were bad, and then you get into pristine mail in ballots, the missing ballot truck in PA that was revealed to be true (sotto voce last couple of months after Postal Service investigation), paying vote harvesters with giftcards (vote harvesting was illegal in a couple of states), third party control of ballots (see Green Bay Wisconsin for that), etc. etc.

If you want problems with Dominion electronic voting, see if the GA Senate still has up its committee hearing in late December on the GA election. This will come up in any GA case involving Trump. I can go on.

Posted by: whig at August 08, 2023 11:59 AM (bk5GW)

278 241 I wonder to some extent though whether DeSantis was purposefully sabotaged by his own political minders just like Sarah Palin was.
Posted by: whig at August 08, 2023 11:44 AM (bk5GW)

meatball is the default NT vessel to derail Trump

once they accomplished that, they would get back to supporting dims

what disqualifies Rob is he doesn't see this

or does he ?

Posted by: REDACTED at August 08, 2023 11:59 AM (us2H3)

279 The problem with Fort Mills is it adds at least 30 minutes to get to Lexington, NC, where real BBQ is available. BTW, its the best BBQ you will ever taste.

Posted by: Puddinhead at August 08, 2023 12:00 PM (xSnmX)

280 I genuinely ask because both Trump and the GOP need to put this into materially proven sound bites. I'm shocked they haven't done that yet. They get attacked over and over for the "stolen election" phrasing, yet nobody has responded in an effective way to turn this on the questioners (e.g. how can C County have 10 votes and only 5 residents?, etc).


Excellent point.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 08, 2023 12:00 PM (eOEVl)

281 Try reading the entire rest of the Bible, particularly God's commentary in 1 Samuel 8 about Israel's fall into the sin of government.
Posted by: Methos at August 08, 2023 11:55 AM (Dnobf)

A) I have
B) I'm familiar with the warning to Israel about the consequences of rule by an earthly king
C) It doesn't erase the lengthy portions in Romans about earthly authorities being appointed by God and required submission thereto. It's something of a conundrum when considering Christian teachings and consistency or inconsistency with revolution or resistance, even against the most evil of despots. I think it's something that merits pretty deep consideration and soul-searching, not hand-waving it away.

Posted by: Like it said, that's hard to reconcile with certain other values at August 08, 2023 12:00 PM (q1Zxb)

282 Good news, We're going to raffle a very "Special" item at the TXMOMe to raise money for our favorite Ewok charity.

Posted by: lin-duh at August 08, 2023 12:00 PM (eb+9G)

283 Just curious, what specific theories floated by Powell, Giuliani, et al were proven demonstrably true to show the election was "stolen"? I'm genuinely interested.

Kari Lake's been able to prove some things in court regarding Maricopa. I don't think it rises to the level of proving a steal, but it's certainly adjacent to that. And she said there's a whistleblower in Michigan who claims they were counting post-it notes with "Biden" scrawled on them as ballots.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 08, 2023 12:00 PM (ZGrMX)

284 This is their vocation and main purpose in life, yet nobody has done that, especially not Trump and he's going to get called on it sooner or later.
Posted by: Marcus T at August 08, 2023 11:58 AM (63An5)
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Yup. If he is going to talk about it at all - and I think he should, though I understand the argument to the contrary - he needs to have it parceled out effectively.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 08, 2023 12:00 PM (WkNQM)

285 Don't make Piers Morgan mad!

https://tinyurl.com/57w5wsd8

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 08, 2023 12:00 PM (FVME7)

286
That will be interesting. She's borderline incoherent. Will she get some zoom-juice like they give Biden? Will they keep her off the sauce? Will she vaguely lie until she gets hostile? Will it happen at all?

Taking all bets!
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

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I don't think it will happen at all. Medical reasons will appear.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 08, 2023 12:01 PM (lCaJd)

287 That’s not lewd, Mr. Mannix. That’s called ventilation.

Posted by: RI Red at August 08, 2023 12:01 PM (EnT0Y)

288 I'm going to get my home theater. I know that at least, especially with the timeline the employer has offered her.

We'll go new build and at least get the space for it, and then build it up new.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Slow down there mister. You’re starting to sound like jwest.

Snark aside , congratulations on the lifestyle upgrade. It’s what’s supposed to happen when you work hard.

Posted by: polynikes at August 08, 2023 12:01 PM (MNhXM)

289 >>I genuinely ask because both Trump and the GOP need to put this into materially proven sound bites. I'm shocked they haven't done that yet. They get attacked over and over for the "stolen election" phrasing, yet nobody has responded in an effective way to turn this on the questioners (e.g. how can C County have 10 votes and only 5 residents?, etc).

Every time they do the media and the left just say "That's not proof" just like the do with the obvious proof of Joe's guilt.

Any state that allowed anyone other than the state legislature to change their voting rules is in violation of the Constitution. Nobody cares. Illegal unguarded drop boxes. Nobody cares. A coordinated shutdown of voting counting in the six states Trump was winning that miraculously flipped to Biden days later and no real investigation nobody cares.

You either look at the evidence and conclude there was cheating or you just pretend laws and rules and basic math don't matter.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 08, 2023 12:01 PM (ZLI7S)

290 "It was NOT disproven. It never got tried in court, but yeah, what they tried to bring was a failure, and if anyone running for office right now can't articulate that, without sounding like they're saying "that election was fair," they're not fit for office.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 08, 2023 11:57 AM (dGCAG)"

Here's the issue. The election was ""fair" according to all that's been mitigated so far. I've seen a lot of stuff that lacks integrity, is questionable or subverted the legislatures. I think mail in balloting and no ID, ballot harvesting is insane and unconstitutional , as does most of the OECD countries yet the GOP has done zero to address it.

That's really the challenge. When asked these questions there is a lot of punting, gesticulation and sighing but no facts.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 08, 2023 12:02 PM (63An5)

291 There is a way to put the brakes on this rancid mess, it begins with a reading (or rereading) of the Declaration of Independence
and an emulation thereof, letting events play out as they will.

Posted by: irongrampa at August 08, 2023 12:02 PM (KATBx)

292 Good news, We're going to raffle a very "Special" item at the TXMOMe to raise money for our favorite Ewok charity.

What is the current favorite Ewok charity? I know the Marco Rubio Garbage Fund is disqualified now.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 08, 2023 12:02 PM (ZGrMX)

293 Kash Patel: Trump WILL Call Nancy Pelosi as WITNESS in January 6th Case

Posted by: SMOD at August 08, 2023 11:55 AM (RHGPo)

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She'll tear up the Witness Summons live during F. Joe's State of DisUnion Address next January.

And who would do anything to ensure she appears, testifies, and tells any inkling of truth? /rhetorical

Posted by: ShainS -- We're Happy Ace's Geriatric Club ... at August 08, 2023 12:02 PM (f6UzA)

294 This busty blonde lewdly posing in her underwear would definitely move for an extra $100k:
https://is.gd/CBJmsr
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 08, 2023 11:58 AM (WkNQM)

I'd move her.

Posted by: Robert at August 08, 2023 12:02 PM (1Yy3c)

295 It was NOT disproven. It never got tried in court, but yeah, what they tried to bring was a failure, and if anyone running for office right now can't articulate that, without sounding like they're saying "that election was fair," they're not fit for office.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 08, 2023 11:57 AM (dGCAG)

I'm not holding my breath, but I do find it curious that Trump seems to want the latest prosecution to go forward quickly. One of the charges seems to be that he was committing fraud in claiming the election was stolen. But to be guilty of that, he'd have to know the opposite, which means he could present any evidence he has of the theft as part of his defense that he didn't know any such thing. And the proof standard wouldn't be particularly high to keep that evidence relevant since it's only going to show what he knew at the time, rather than having to provide a level of proof that would convince a judge to overturn the stated election results.

Posted by: Methos at August 08, 2023 12:02 PM (Dnobf)

296 Here's the issue. The election was ""fair" according to all that's been mitigated so far. I've seen a lot of stuff that lacks integrity, is questionable or subverted the legislatures. I think mail in balloting and no ID, ballot harvesting is insane and unconstitutional , as does most of the OECD countries yet the GOP has done zero to address it.

That's really the challenge. When asked these questions there is a lot of punting, gesticulation and sighing but no facts.
Posted by: Marcus T at August 08, 2023 12:02 PM (63An5)
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They're trying to thread a needle that leaves them in second place but in good standing.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 08, 2023 12:03 PM (WkNQM)

297 288 Slow down there mister. You’re starting to sound like jwest.

Snark aside , congratulations on the lifestyle upgrade. It’s what’s supposed to happen when you work hard.
Posted by: polynikes at August 08, 2023 12:01 PM (MNhXM)

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*or marry someone who works harder than you*

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 08, 2023 12:03 PM (LvTSG)

298 " Me-again actually looks pretty good in the sidebar link. Less stretchy-faced, somehow."

Somebody edited out one of her chins.

Posted by: Outside of Life at August 08, 2023 12:03 PM (89Sog)

299 292 Good news, We're going to raffle a very "Special" item at the TXMOMe to raise money for our favorite Ewok charity.

CBD's used sous vide bags?

Posted by: Special indeed at August 08, 2023 12:03 PM (q1Zxb)

300 I think Marioan Jones and Michael Vick got a "lying to the FBI" charge also. That is why you don't talk to police. First say, I want a lawyer then shut up

Posted by: JM in Ill - Behold the Manchurian Candidate at August 08, 2023 12:03 PM (GBFjd)

301 Agree but the legal team put together to present that case failed miserably.
Posted by: polynikes
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IN PA, white shoe law firms hired before the election via retainers suddenly said we can't represent you. Individual lawyers were threatened with loss of livelihood if they represented Trump. In key states, GOP leaders of the legislature specifically refused to actually conduct any investigations and post election, WI Speaker of House Robin Voss actually fired a former Sup. Ct. Justice from the investigation that the legislature approved. Multiple anomalies outside the margin of error occurred in Michigan and Arizona in vote tabulation, and so on.

Expecting to reveal a massive multi state, multi part fraud in a couple of weeks is an unrealistic expectation. To challenge, you had to wait for certification of the election which can be as long as December in some states.

Posted by: whig at August 08, 2023 12:04 PM (bk5GW)

302 I think Marioan Jones and Michael Vick got a "lying to the FBI" charge also. That is why you don't talk to police. First say, I want a lawyer then shut up
Posted by: JM in Ill - Behold the Manchurian Candidate at August 08, 2023 12:03 PM (GBFjd)
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And make it clear that you're exercising your right to remain silent. Some *very* bad case law made that a requirement.

"I am exercising my right to remain silent and I want a lawyer."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 08, 2023 12:04 PM (WkNQM)

303 This busty blonde lewdly posing in her underwear would definitely move for an extra $100k:
https://is.gd/CBJmsr
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 08, 2023 11:58 AM (WkNQM)

There's advertising and there's Advertising.
And I'm guessing she can do better than a mere 100k. Pro sportsballers and Sheiks exist.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at August 08, 2023 12:04 PM (xcxpd)

304 >>Kash Patel: Trump WILL Call Nancy Pelosi as WITNESS in January 6th Case


That can't be true. I was told that discovery was always a waste of time.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 08, 2023 12:05 PM (ZLI7S)

305 Nood ewok

Posted by: ShainS -- We're Happy Ace's Geriatric Club ... at August 08, 2023 12:05 PM (f6UzA)

306 Don't make Piers Morgan mad!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks


Pierced Organ is the very definition of a stopped clock.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 08, 2023 12:05 PM (IG4Id)

307 And I'm guessing she can do better than a mere 100k. Pro sportsballers and Sheiks exist.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at August 08, 2023 12:04 PM (xcxpd)

She definitely has a booty to Sheik.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 08, 2023 12:06 PM (0/y+K)

308 285 Don't make Piers Morgan mad!

https://tinyurl.com/57w5wsd8
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 08, 2023 12:00 PM (FVME7)

Fuck Piers Morgan with his cricket bat.
The guy's a shill, a kept man for the Machine

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at August 08, 2023 12:06 PM (xcxpd)

309 No western, developed contry has an election system as bad as ours. Ripe with opportunities for corruption before COVID and fine-tuned since to ensure Democrat win. Contemptible.

Posted by: JM in Ill - Behold the Manchurian Candidate at August 08, 2023 12:07 PM (GBFjd)

310 "If you want problems with Dominion electronic voting, see if the GA Senate still has up its committee hearing in late December on the GA election. This will come up in any GA case involving Trump. I can go on.
Posted by: whig at August 08, 2023 11:59 AM (bk5GW)"

I don't think there is any question there were a lot of irregularities which could rise to the potential of denying Trump enough electoral in select states (especially given the margins) to have changed the outcome. My issue is the lack of materiality when it comes to proving that, especially the sound bites necessary to refute to MSM partisan dummies.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 08, 2023 12:07 PM (63An5)

311 "And the proof standard wouldn't be particularly high to keep that evidence relevant since it's only going to show what he knew at the time, rather than having to provide a level of proof that would convince a judge to overturn the stated election results."

My take-away is that he only really needs to prove that i would not be unreasonable for a reasonable person to believe that the election failed to follow all applicable rules and laws.

And that is where discovery might come into play.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 08, 2023 12:07 PM (isNL8)

312 The overall problem with DeSantis Quixotic campaign is that it has no rationale, no basis and no reason for being.

He just believes, like the rest of the chuckleheads running against Trump, it's their turn.

Its not, it will not be, it never was.

Not until Trump is gone from the scene.

Also, The Meatball is trying to triangulate his message and its coming off as slimy.

The Meatball: We cannot have a two tiered justice system but I also don't know what all goes into payoffs to porn stars.

Also The Meatball: Donald Trump lost the Presidential election, but there were obviously some problems that were caused by Donald Trump.

You could have been a team player Meatball Rob, but instead you chose to go in against Trump.

You'll be out of politics within two years or you'll be fighting Rick Scott or Rubio for the Senate.

Which is fitting as it is sad.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 08, 2023 12:07 PM (up/3i)

313
who would do anything to ensure she appears, testifies, and tells any inkling of truth? /rhetorical
Posted by: ShainS -- We're Happy Ace's Geriatric Club

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The dream of seeing her served and brought into court against her will is sweet indeed, but like all such dreams, it depends on a single-tier justice system.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 08, 2023 12:07 PM (lCaJd)

314 Trump trials J6 nood

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at August 08, 2023 12:07 PM (krqg6)

315 C) It doesn't erase the lengthy portions in Romans about earthly authorities being appointed by God and required submission thereto. It's something of a conundrum when considering Christian teachings and consistency or inconsistency with revolution or resistance, even against the most evil of despots. I think it's something that merits pretty deep consideration and soul-searching, not hand-waving it away.
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Paul and the other apostles routinely ignored government orders whenever they contradicted God's instructions.

And part of that detail Paul gives is the few functions of government that make human government at all tolerable to God, mainly the punishing of evil.

Any government not doing that isn't covered by Paul's comments.

Posted by: Methos at August 08, 2023 12:08 PM (Dnobf)

316 296 Here's the issue. The election was ""fair" according to all that's been mitigated so far. I've seen a lot of stuff that lacks integrity, is questionable or subverted the legislatures. I think mail in balloting and no ID, ballot harvesting is insane and unconstitutional , as does most of the OECD countries yet the GOP has done zero to address it.

That's really the challenge. When asked these questions there is a lot of punting, gesticulation and sighing but no facts.
Posted by: Marcus T
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To put it mildly, you are wrong and ignorant of what is out there.

Absent any real investigation where the actual election people at the local level are put on the stand, under oath, and without massive Dem financial and legal support, you won't get a smoking gun. But forensic accountants reports, statistician reports, court evidence from other cases (GA had an election case involving Stacey Abrams with damning testimony) eyewitness accounts, etc. all are facts that need to be discussed.

What you probably will not like, there is a strong implication that a lot of GOPe administrators and elected officials went along with the voter fraud to get rid of Trump.

Posted by: whig at August 08, 2023 12:08 PM (bk5GW)

317 Kash Patel: Trump WILL Call Nancy Pelosi as WITNESS in January 6th Case
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Federal rules allow up to, IIRC, 6 hours of depo per witness in civil cases.

Ain't no go-juice they can dose her with that last that long.

Two hours just grinding her down on crushingly boring background (name, family, education, personal history , etc)-- she will be a blubbering mess by the time you get to J6.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 08, 2023 12:09 PM (TzW+Y)

318 You either look at the evidence and conclude there was cheating or you just pretend laws and rules and basic math don't matter.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 08, 2023 12:01 PM (ZLI7S)
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Door number 2. Obviously.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 08, 2023 12:09 PM (6EbeO)

319 I'm waiting for Dinesh Desouza to get charged because of his movie about the election. It's making a claim about ballot box stuffing and that interferes with elections just like Trump did in Georgia. Republicans especially don't want to vote anymore because they are told by people on their own side the elections are rigged. So we need to lock up everyone making claims of election chicanery because it's election interference.

Posted by: torabora's nightmare conference call with DOJ at August 08, 2023 12:10 PM (vR5mE)

320 I don't think there is any question there were a lot of irregularities which could rise to the potential of denying Trump enough electoral in select states (especially given the margins) to have changed the outcome. My issue is the lack of materiality when it comes to proving that, especially the sound bites necessary to refute to MSM partisan dummies.
Posted by: Marcus T
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You just shifted the goalposts. You need to admit, this is not normal politics anymore and that the Democrats have in effect nullified voting in 2020 and in some places, 2022 election was stolen in AZ to prevent the 2020 stealers from being punished.

Posted by: whig at August 08, 2023 12:11 PM (bk5GW)

321 Again, Trumps legal team presented strong evidence that there was vast voter fraud in all of the six states in question.

And each and every time his challenges were brushed aside for lack of standing, lack of ripeness, too rip and ultimately because reasons.

None of his challenges were allowed to be heard.


It similar to Kari Lake in AZ, her team presented extraordinary evidence to show voter fraud and gross malfeasance, the judge essentially said, Nope, denied, FYNQ.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 08, 2023 12:12 PM (up/3i)

322 We can bitch and moan about the last election all we want but all that matters is Poop Pants is despoiling the chair in the Oval Office and living upstairs. Trump lost to Biden, by the only definition that matters, and unless the Romneyites have a SooperSecrit plan in place at GOPe HQ, the same result is likely.

I pray we can take the Senate and expand the Hose.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 08, 2023 12:14 PM (6EbeO)

323 296 Here's the issue. The election was ""fair" according to all that's been mitigated so far. I've seen a lot of stuff that lacks integrity, is questionable or subverted the legislatures. I think mail in balloting and no ID, ballot harvesting is insane and unconstitutional , as does most of the OECD countries yet the GOP has done zero to address it.

That's really the challenge. When asked these questions there is a lot of punting, gesticulation and sighing but no facts.
Posted by: Marcus T

I think you have failed to understand the key issue. Electoral fraud is a law enforcement issue. It is addressed via criminal investigations and prosecutions.

The legal Constitutional challenges were a dead end. SCOTUS was quite clear and I think correct.

How is one to get evidence of a crime?

Why did the GOP not pressure GOP AGs and DAs to investigate and prosecute? Why did the DOJ not investigate and prosecute?

If the issue is whether or not cheating actually happened, and you aren't sure, then there is nothing to talk about. As you are impervious to reality.

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 08, 2023 12:14 PM (Wcm38)

324 Again, Trumps legal team presented strong evidence that there was vast voter fraud in all of the six states in question.

And each and every time his challenges were brushed aside for lack of standing, lack of ripeness, too rip and ultimately because reasons.

None of his challenges were allowed to be heard.


It similar to Kari Lake in AZ, her team presented extraordinary evidence to show voter fraud and gross malfeasance, the judge essentially said, Nope, denied, FYNQ.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 08, 2023 12:12 PM (up/3i)

I get that it was frustrating. But SCOTUS was right. Election fraud is a criminal matter. The courts are not and should not be in the business of monitoring elections. That's the job of the AGs abd DAs and Sheriffs.

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 08, 2023 12:16 PM (Wcm38)

325 I think the slope starts when a country "gets too big for its britches" to coin a phrase. For the US that started after WWI. Now we became a "major player" in the world, and the concern changed from what is good for Americans to what is good for the world.

Posted by: scruboak at August 08, 2023 12:22 PM (jjH9L)

326 And by "world" I mean the globalists.

Posted by: scruboak at August 08, 2023 12:22 PM (jjH9L)

327 McCabe was not charged could not be charged because the Federal Grand Jury refused to indict

Posted by: Paul at August 08, 2023 12:24 PM (SPWkI)

328 Great summary, Mis Hum. Insane and flagrant double standards.

There is that saying, "if you repeat a lie long enough, it becomes the truth."

Well, many of us take the, "nothing will be done, so why bother?" posture.

Always in favor of continuing to hammer. It's frustrating for sure, but if we don't try to bring it to light, it will ONLY get worse.

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