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In Just a Two Week Sweep, FBI Finds 200 Child Trafficking Victims and 59 Missing Children

NBC "News" just published a QAnon-Adjacent story.

I thought all of this was a conspiracy theory...?


The FBI found 200 sex trafficking victims and more than 125 suspects during a two-week child exploitation operation in July, federal officials said Tuesday.

During "Operation Cross County," the FBI located 59 victims of child sex trafficking and child sexual exploitation and 59 missing children.

The FBI teamed with state and local agencies to identify or arrest 126 suspects of child sexual exploitation and human trafficking and 68 suspected traffickers.


"Sex traffickers exploit and endanger some of the most vulnerable members of our society and cause their victims unimaginable harm," Attorney General Merrick B. Garland said in a statement. "This operation, which located 59 actively missing children, builds on the tremendous work the FBI has undertaken over many years to rescue minor victims and arrest those responsible for these unspeakable crimes.

The FBI-led initiative in partnership with the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children (NCMEC) "focused on identifying and locating victims of sex trafficking and investigating and arresting individuals and criminal enterprises involved in both child sex and human trafficking," federal officials said.

Operation Cross Country 13, an FBI-led nationwide law enforcement initiative, which included other federal agencies, state and local police, and social services agencies aiming to find and assist victims of human trafficking, particularly child victims.
Operation Cross Country 13, an FBI-led nationwide law enforcement initiative, which included other federal agencies, state and local police, and social services agencies aiming to find and assist victims of human trafficking, particularly child victims.

Recall: FBI whistleblowers, punished by the FBI and deprived of a salary and left to beg from friends and family while the FBI "investigated" -- covered up -- their allegations, alleged that they were being taken off child slavery investigations so they could be assigned to the Bureau's preferred tasks of arresting abortion protesters and conducting armed raids of January 6th grandmothers.

The House Judiciary Committee Republicans released a letter this week that they sent to FBI Director Christopher Wray that featured claims from a whistleblower from the Bureau who claims that FBI agents were moved off child sex abuse cases to work on political investigations.

"We continue to hear from brave whistleblowers about disturbing conduct at the Federal Bureau of Investigation, including politicization within the Washington Field Office (WFO)," said Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH), Ranking Member on the Committee, at the start of the letter. "On July 27, 2022, we wrote to you about protected whistleblower disclosures that FBI officials including an Assistant Special Agent in Charge from the WFO-were pressuring agents to reclassify cases as 'domestic violent extremism' (DVEs) even if the cases do not meet the criteria for such a classification."

...

"In addition, the whistleblower disclosed that the FBI is sacrificing its other important federal law-enforcement duties to pursue January 6 investigations," the letter added. "The whistleblower recalled, for example, being 'told that child sexual abuse material investigations were no longer an FBI priority and should be referred to local law enforcement agencies.' Such a posture is not only a dereliction of the FBI's mission to investigate violations of federal laws, but it is a grave disservice to the victims of child sexual abuse and other crimes that do not advance the FBI leadership's political agenda."

Public trust in the FBI has fallen to an all-time low.

Americans' trust in the FBI has taken a sharp nose-dive in the wake of the agency's raid on Mar-a-Lago, and the seizure of documents from former President Donald Trump's home.

A new poll released on Thursday from the Trafalgar Group for the Convention of States Action, found that Americans overall are split in their opinion of the FBI, with a slight majority of independent voters siding with Republicans against the FBI.

46.6 percent of those polled said that the FBI is "to be respected for their pursuit of justice and law and order," while 46.2 percent said that the FBI is "too political, corrupt, and not to be trusted." 7.2 percent of Americans said they weren't sure.

73.7 percent of Democrats said that they respect the FBI, while 68.3 percent of Republicans said the FBI is too corrupt and political.

And with (some) conservative Republicans hungry to cut the FBI's budget and block funding for Christopher Wray's treasured new grand, swank FBI headquarters -- or, even worse, move it to Georgia!!! -- suddenly the FBI decides they should make a big show of doing their actual jobs instead of their preferred self-assigned job of acting as the Mob Enforcers for the Democrat Crime Mob.

David Strom writes:

Fifty-nine missing children. These were the victims that the MSM was willing to toss to the wolves in order to smear the movie Sound of Freedom.

All because they wanted to undermine the credibility of Jim Caviezel and take a shot at Donald Trump, their bete noir.

It really was that simple. Caviezel is a favorite of Trump supporters and other Republicans, so he had to be smeared along with all things Trump. The simple fact that hundreds of victims, including kidnapped children, had to be denied the attention they deserved and left to rot in sex slavery was a small price to pay. But for the efforts of law enforcement, these people would still be trapped, and their existence denied by the MSM.

Do you expect a single one of these "journalists" to acknowledge that they were wrong and apologize for deceiving the American people?

Oh please. By now everybody with two brain cells to rub together and an ounce of intellectual integrity knows that the MSM and the elite establishment are simply tools of the Left. The Left wanted the Sound of Freedom smeared, and the Left got exactly what they wanted.

They literally are the cult of child sacrifice.

Posted by: Ace at 03:25 PM




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1 The FBI is now faith based?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 03, 2023 03:24 PM (LvTSG)

2 Found them in the rolodex.

Posted by: ... at August 03, 2023 03:25 PM (/8p10)

3 Well hey, they already knew who had them and where they were.

Posted by: Eromero at August 03, 2023 03:26 PM (z3WCn)

4 How many were FBI agents or sources?

Posted by: henry at August 03, 2023 03:26 PM (JMDly)

5 See, this is the kind of stuff the FBI should be focusing on

Posted by: DB - former FBI agent with a terrible secret at August 03, 2023 03:26 PM (geLO8)

6 "They were on our radar."

Posted by: Crazy to be sane at August 03, 2023 03:27 PM (kGOmo)

7 See! We are useful! You can't defund us!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 03, 2023 03:27 PM (slgIg)

8 Money laundering? Overseas agent bribes? Felony admissions against penal interest?

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at August 03, 2023 03:27 PM (OeRik)

9 Wow, when the FBI has to fake being useful, you know the globalists are feeling the heat.

Under the last Administration, the US Marshals were used frequently to break apart exploitation rings. I wonder why they've been moved away from that brief? Haha, no I don't.

Posted by: trev006 at August 03, 2023 03:27 PM (WVerd)

10 Did the FBI confiscate the victims for in depth investigation?

Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at August 03, 2023 03:28 PM (aCNZ6)

11 One week ago, them kids was still being fuked.

What took the FBI so long?

They need child porn to plant on people's laptops via Windows Update. This is how they get it.

Posted by: boomer at August 03, 2023 03:28 PM (NgHYn)

12 FBI- Federal Baby I...

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 03, 2023 03:28 PM (3NsUs)

13 Fucking republicans want kids to stak child sex slaves. They don't care about child sex trafficking at all! Only the dems will save the kids. Increase FBI funding!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 03, 2023 03:28 PM (slgIg)

14
Only Republicans were found in the sweep. Despite the fact these same 100 Republicans cast 10,000 votes for Joe Biden in 2020.

It's a mystery.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at August 03, 2023 03:28 PM (enJYY)

15 Oh NOW the FBI is trying to act like good guys.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at August 03, 2023 03:29 PM (xcxpd)

16 If the PTB have found these sex slave and pederast gangs and eliminated them…

…am I too cynical to think, they're just eliminating the competition to their own gangs?

Posted by: mindful webworker - unleashed at August 03, 2023 03:29 PM (sD/OT)

17 Interesting timing.

The feebs knew all about those traffickers (since they were participating). But since SOF came out and made such an impact, they quickly had to switch their hats to white from black.

For a moment.

Posted by: kallisto at August 03, 2023 03:29 PM (2njrJ)

18 It was a 3 year investigation. We watched those kids get raped for 3 years just to be sure what was going on and to try to catch the bigger fish, and to wait for a politically opportunistic time to make arrests.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 03, 2023 03:30 PM (slgIg)

19 I wonder why they've been moved away from that brief? Haha, no I don't.

they're out there flushing out the J6 insurrectionists now

Posted by: kallisto at August 03, 2023 03:30 PM (2njrJ)

20 Now back to our regularly scheduled persecution of non-leftists.

Posted by: FBI at August 03, 2023 03:30 PM (zPWw8)

21 Was Whitey Bulgar into human trafficking? Or did he leave that to Mueller of the FBI?

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 03, 2023 03:30 PM (3NsUs)

22 They just all went over to each others' houses.

Posted by: FBI's biggest purveyor of CP, why not trafficking too? at August 03, 2023 03:31 PM (q1Zxb)

23

Did the psychopaths in FBI get a kickback from the cartels to do this to take the heat off?

After what those folks did in Michigan with that wench Gretch they aren't to be trusted at all.

They recently arrested some idiot in the UP of Michigan for some anti-semitic attack planning.

In East Lansing. The Jewish folks are in Ann Arbor and West Bloomfield. None in East Lansing.


Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at August 03, 2023 03:31 PM (UCNv1)

24 The job of the FBI is to enforce the will of the deep state.

And they want child sex trafficking so don't expect more of this.

Hell, the sex trafficking might be more important to the deep state then the cheap labor...

Posted by: 18-1 at August 03, 2023 03:31 PM (lc5cP)

25 aren't the feebs and Foggy Bottom the biggest producers of CP in the world?

Posted by: kallisto at August 03, 2023 03:31 PM (2njrJ)

26 But what about the Climate Emergency? Aren't we all dying of the climate?

Posted by: Greta torabora at August 03, 2023 03:31 PM (OMcRZ)

27 That should hold 'em for a couple years.
-Christopher Wray

Posted by: BruceWayne at August 03, 2023 03:31 PM (CIS44)

28 FBI = Faith-Based Investigators

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 03, 2023 03:32 PM (KbCG3)

29 A common response to SOF I found on lefty sites was that those were consensual underaged sex workers and then being "liberated" was traumatic for them.

I wonder if we'll see the same response to this article?

Posted by: 18-1 at August 03, 2023 03:32 PM (lc5cP)

30 See! We are useful! You can't defund us!

Do it again in the next two weeks. And then again in the next two weeks after that. Then we'll talk.

Posted by: Oddbob at August 03, 2023 03:32 PM (nfrXX)

31 "Sex traffickers exploit and endanger some of the most vulnerable members of our society and cause their victims unimaginable harm," Attorney General Merrick B. Garland said in a statement. "On the other hand, my tender ministrations are gentle acts of love with consenting minors, and could never do them harm," the Attorney General continued.

Posted by: I may have taken some liberties there at August 03, 2023 03:33 PM (q1Zxb)

32 That should hold 'em for a couple years.
-Christopher Wray


By the way, where did we come down on our new HQ building in Fairfax County?

Posted by: C. Wray at August 03, 2023 03:33 PM (eOEVl)

33 and IF the FBI had not pulled agents from the task (instead assigning them to attack Republicans) perhaps there would have been 1000 victims and 300 perps arrested (not suspected).

Heck, just patrol the border and do DNA on the fake dads would be a good start. (but they cancelled the DNA thang I think)

Posted by: illiniwek at August 03, 2023 03:33 PM (Cus5s)

34 Note: The FBI has still not arrested a single Epstein client

Posted by: 18-1 at August 03, 2023 03:33 PM (lc5cP)

35 25 aren't the feebs and Foggy Bottom the biggest producers of CP in the world?

Posted by: kallisto at August 03, 2023 03:31 PM (2njrJ)

Biggest at office consumers too.

Posted by: henry at August 03, 2023 03:34 PM (JMDly)

36 am I too cynical to think, they're just eliminating the competition to their own gangs?
Posted by: mindful webworker


That's what my first thought was also.

Posted by: Prime Sister at August 03, 2023 03:34 PM (tQL7r)

37 Wonder how many of these 125 are teachers, members of Antifa, gay or trans, Disney employees, Disney fanboys, illegals.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 03, 2023 03:34 PM (KbCG3)

38 32 That should hold 'em for a couple years.
-Christopher Wray

By the way, where did we come down on our new HQ building in Fairfax County?
Posted by: C. Wray at August 03, 2023 03:33 PM (eOEVl)

=======

"There's some theater to go, but we'll send over the measurements for your drapes by EOB today."
-Kevin McCarthy

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 03, 2023 03:34 PM (LvTSG)

39 Imagine what the f I could do about sex trafficking if they concentrated on that rather than moms at school board meetings

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 03, 2023 03:34 PM (2dci9)

40 Oh, and there are videos and pictures of Hunter with underage hookers.

And...no charges.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 03, 2023 03:34 PM (lc5cP)

41 I'm impressed. Usually they entrap some retarded kid in a terrorism sting when they need PR.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 03, 2023 03:34 PM (slgIg)

42 We're supposed to congratulate people for doing their job.

HEY CARPENTER - THX FOR HAMMRN THAT NAIL?!

the fk we are.

Posted by: 13times at August 03, 2023 03:34 PM (BSUWb)

43 You know, it wasn't that long ago that the left were trying to indoctrinate everyone in to thinking that every man was a rapist, and likely a pedophile, and that children were being raped everywhere, all the time, and should not trust any adult men, including their own fathers.

Quite the swivel to "child sexual abuse and trafficking is a right wing conspiracy theory"

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 03, 2023 03:35 PM (mj0Qp)

44 37 Wonder how many of these 125 are teachers, members of Antifa, gay or trans, Disney employees, Disney fanboys, illegals.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 03, 2023 03:34 PM (KbCG3)

=========

"Well, one of them went to a seminary for 6 months under the reign of terror under Benedict XVI, so this is obviously the Catholic Church's fault."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 03, 2023 03:35 PM (LvTSG)

45 When they say "human trafficking", that is just a sanitized word for slavery.

Call it slavery.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 03, 2023 03:35 PM (lf83v)

46 And with (some) conservative Republicans hungry to cut the FBI's budget and block funding for Christopher Wray's treasured new grand, swank FBI headquarters -- or, even worse, move it to Georgia!!! -- suddenly the FBI decides they should make a big show of doing their actual jobs instead of their preferred self-assigned job of acting as the Mob Enforcers for the Democrat Crime Mob.

If that's true, it means that the Fibbers think there's actually a chance it could happen. Could it be that the GOP has decided to join the vertebrate subphylum?

Posted by: Archimedes at August 03, 2023 03:35 PM (eOEVl)

47 HEY CARPENTER - THX FOR HAMMRN THAT NAIL?!


THAT'S NOT A NAIL!

Posted by: Paul "Backdoor Man" Pelosi at August 03, 2023 03:35 PM (lc5cP)

48 Well hey, they already knew who had them and where they were.
Posted by: Eromero


Yes, they did.

Posted by: Prime Sister at August 03, 2023 03:35 PM (tQL7r)

49 "And they want child sex trafficking so don't expect more of this. Hell, the sex trafficking might be more important to the deep state then the cheap labor..." Posted by: 18-1

seems quite possible. Perhaps the perps were their competition, operating outside of the cartel's purview (domain?).

Posted by: illiniwek at August 03, 2023 03:35 PM (Cus5s)

50 I'm surprised Merrick Garland didn't indicate where the children were being held. When Trump admin busted these rings, we were told exactly where they were.

Posted by: kallisto at August 03, 2023 03:36 PM (2njrJ)

51 Oh ok, QAnon.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 03, 2023 03:36 PM (ZLI7S)

52 40 Oh, and there are videos and pictures of Hunter with underage hookers.

And...no charges.
Posted by: 18-1 at August 03, 2023 03:34 PM (lc5cP)

4Chan made a pretty convincing case YEARS ago that one of the girls on the Biden laptop was his niece Natalie. Who was like 15 at the time.

In one video where the obviously very young girl was giving Hunter a foot job, there was a prominent scar on her ankle that happens to match perfectly with a scare Natalie has on her ankle.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 03, 2023 03:36 PM (mj0Qp)

53 How many victims of sex slavery did Hunter Biden screw?

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 03, 2023 03:36 PM (lf83v)

54 But still no word on Pedo Pete

Posted by: BruceWayne at August 03, 2023 03:37 PM (CIS44)

55 Public trust in the FBI has fallen to an all-time low.

Well duh. If I were on a jury and the FBI testified, I would be forced to acquit, rightfully assuming that it is a frame up.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 03, 2023 03:37 PM (aD39U)

56 Then: Child sex trafficking is just a myth you...you...conspiracy theorists!

Now: If you want to cut the FBI's budget its because you support child sex trafficking

Posted by: The left at August 03, 2023 03:37 PM (lc5cP)

57 So is the FBI going to have to investigate itself for being a bunch of domestic terrorist Q-Anon adjacent conspiracy loons?

Posted by: I mean, if we're going to keep it consistent at August 03, 2023 03:37 PM (q1Zxb)

58
'The Justice System works carefully to keep Minor Attracted Persons out of a penal system that would be harmful to them," Merrick Garland explained while carefully shielding a a picture of a six year old naked boy taking a bubble bath behind his back.

/ Might have exaggerated only a tad.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at August 03, 2023 03:37 PM (enJYY)

59
YEA!!! CONGA LINE!!1!!1!!

AUF WIEDERSEHEN!

Posted by: Jimmy Carter at August 03, 2023 03:37 PM (5hfjS)

60 This is official confirmation that the FIB is actually behind QAnon.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at August 03, 2023 03:37 PM (DTX3h)

61 How many sex slaves did the Secret Service screw in Panama and South America?

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 03, 2023 03:38 PM (lf83v)

62 Teamed with local police means they jumped on existing cases that were going to be popped by they local police. FBI are fucking vultures. Lowest of the low.

Posted by: Puddinhead at August 03, 2023 03:38 PM (DmtxH)

63 the sex trafficking might be more important to the deep state then the cheap labor...
Posted by: 18-1

It is.

Posted by: Prime Sister at August 03, 2023 03:38 PM (tQL7r)

64 56 Then: Child sex trafficking is just a myth you...you...conspiracy theorists!

Now: If you want to cut the FBI's budget its because you support child sex trafficking
Posted by: The left at August 03, 2023 03:37 PM (lc5cP)

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Meh. It was more along the lines of, "You don't actually care about child sex trafficking because you haven't made it the #1 thing in your platform before this very moment. It doesn't matter if it was in the list of your reasons to close the borders, we know you don't actually believe it. You're just dullards following orders from Fox News."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 03, 2023 03:38 PM (LvTSG)

65 Well duh. If I were on a jury and the FBI testified, I would be forced to acquit, rightfully assuming that it is a frame up.

I'd suggest EVERY conservative, or hell just plain sane person, consider the conduct of the FBI on any case they are called to a jury on.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 03, 2023 03:38 PM (lc5cP)

66 Wonder how many of these 125 are teachers, members of Antifa, gay or trans, Disney employees, Disney fanboys, illegals.

unfortunately the CP criminality encompasses every demographic, every race, creed ,color, livelihood and profession.

It is a very sick, depraved population, and they are EVERYWHERE

Posted by: kallisto at August 03, 2023 03:38 PM (2njrJ)

67 FBI Finds 200 Child Trafficking Victims and 59 Missing Children

And that's just the intern pool at The Lincoln Project.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at August 03, 2023 03:39 PM (ppBhU)

68 How many of these sex slaves generated income for the Big Guy?

Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at August 03, 2023 03:39 PM (aCNZ6)

69 Believe nothing the FBI claims or says it has done.

They plant evidence, frame up innocent people, spy on private citizens, rape, cover up crimes of those in power, lie, perjure themselves at will, kill innocent Americans, rape and help Joe Biden's son out of jams 24/7.

Believe nothing.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 03, 2023 03:39 PM (5L/TD)

70 Did they find their car keys while they were at it?

Posted by: wth at August 03, 2023 03:39 PM (v0R5T)

71 When the sex traffickers were caught they were all wearing red MAGA hats and one put noose made from a garage pull on an FBI agent. It's true.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 03, 2023 03:39 PM (ZLI7S)

72 65 Well duh. If I were on a jury and the FBI testified, I would be forced to acquit, rightfully assuming that it is a frame up.

I'd suggest EVERY conservative, or hell just plain sane person, consider the conduct of the FBI on any case they are called to a jury on.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 03, 2023 03:38 PM (lc5cP)

========

But, during voir dire, you say, "I barely pay attention to the news. My favorite show is FBI on CBS. I trust my government to do what is right."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 03, 2023 03:39 PM (LvTSG)

73 "Sex traffickers exploit and endanger some of the most vulnerable members of our society and cause their victims unimaginable harm," Attorney General Merrick B. Garland said in a statement.

---

But enough about the Democrat Party...

Posted by: BurtTC at August 03, 2023 03:39 PM (dGCAG)

Posted by: Mitch McConnell at August 03, 2023 03:39 PM (aD39U)

75 has anyone here ever checked out the Megan's Llist for their zip code?

It's astonishing how many convicted pedophiles live in the neighborhood.

Posted by: kallisto at August 03, 2023 03:39 PM (2njrJ)

76 Were they from the FBI too?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 03, 2023 03:39 PM (Ia/z/)

77 Well duh. If I were on a jury and the FBI testified, I would be forced to acquit, rightfully assuming that it is a frame up.

I'd suggest EVERY conservative, or hell just plain sane person, consider the conduct of the FBI on any case they are called to a jury on.

Posted by: 18-1

Jury nullification in any case in which the feds are involved. Period.

Posted by: BruceWayne at August 03, 2023 03:40 PM (CIS44)

78 You could raid all the Tejano bars and Asian massage parlors in Houston and find twice as many as this operation did.

Posted by: polynikes at August 03, 2023 03:40 PM (MNhXM)

79 I wouldn't trust the Eff Bee Eye to look for a lost dog

Posted by: Skip at August 03, 2023 03:40 PM (MOY79)

80 What if there's one part of the FBI, doing what it's supposed to do, but also another part of the FBI that's been compartmentalized as enforcers for the Democrat party?

2 FBIs

just a theory

Posted by: DB - at August 03, 2023 03:40 PM (geLO8)

81 Meh. It was more along the lines of, "You don't actually care about child sex trafficking because you haven't made it the #1 thing in your platform before this very moment.

The left does do this with a lot of issues. Basically everyone agreed trannies were crazy or that urban crime was bad...until the left decided they weren't and now anyone that disagrees "doesn't really believe it"

But specifically in the case of child sex trafficking the left denying it exists was a major talking point during the Pizzagate era. They stopped for a while when Epstein was in the news...but if you talk with them about it now they are back to arguing it basically never happens and our elites are pristine and pure in this regard.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 03, 2023 03:41 PM (lc5cP)

82 15
Oh NOW the FBI is trying to act like good guys.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water
.......

Ham and eggers, all of them.

Posted by: wth at August 03, 2023 03:41 PM (v0R5T)

83 King Harv is on a river raid saving trafficked children.

Posted by: TexasDan at August 03, 2023 03:41 PM (X7yt5)

84 79 I wouldn't trust the Eff Bee Eye to look for a lost dog
Posted by: Skip at August 03, 2023 03:40 PM (MOY79)

They shoot dogs, they don't look for them

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at August 03, 2023 03:41 PM (xcxpd)

85 But, during voir dire,

Just stare into space, unresponsive, like Mitch McConnell.

I'm assured that's ordinary behavior.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at August 03, 2023 03:41 PM (ppBhU)

86 And with (some) conservative Republicans hungry to cut the FBI's budget and block funding for Christopher Wray's treasured new grand, swank FBI headquarters -- or, even worse, move it to Georgia!!! -- suddenly the FBI decides they should make a big show of doing their actual jobs instead of their preferred self-assigned job of acting as the Mob Enforcers for the Democrat Crime Mob.
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It's a propaganda operation, nothing more.

"See! See! We *do* care about this and are doing the work we should. That movie you troglodytes watched and all of the open grooming of children don't matter because we, the good guys, are taking care of it. We are trustworthy and those lies about how we don't do anything about (or even worse, enable) this stuff are just that: lies. We're the good guys. We work for you and we're good at our jobs."

I imagine they have any number of ops like this ready to go when they need them. They actually do investigate some stuff, they just only bother following up on it when there's a propaganda need.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 03, 2023 03:41 PM (t0OGg)

87 Believe nothing the FBI claims or says it has done.

They plant evidence, frame up innocent people, spy on private citizens, rape, cover up crimes of those in power, lie, perjure themselves at will, kill innocent Americans, rape and help Joe Biden's son out of jams 24/7.

Believe nothing.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 03, 2023 03:39 PM (5L/TD)

Oh, I can believe they've found over 200 victims of sex trafficking in the past few weeks.

My question is, why'd you only start looking in the past few weeks? It's not like you don't know they're out there.

Don't answer that, we know the answer. You're too busy looking for people who were at the Capitol on J6.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 03, 2023 03:42 PM (dGCAG)

88 Of course the Liberal Media is gonna be upset.

These Children were supposed to be sacrificed to the abortion God.

Posted by: garrett at August 03, 2023 03:42 PM (5D0zJ)

89 2 FBIs

just a theory
Posted by: DB - at August 03, 2023 03:40 PM (geLO

The one FBI has been purging members of the 'white hats' for years now. Bureaucracies live to perpetuate themselves, not serve anything else.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 03, 2023 03:42 PM (Ia/z/)

90 46.6 percent of those polled said that the FBI is "to be respected for their pursuit of justice and law and order," while 46.2 percent said that the FBI is "too political, corrupt, and not to be trusted." 7.2 percent of Americans said they weren't sure.
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How depressing.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 03, 2023 03:42 PM (t0OGg)

91 Oh, and there are videos and pictures of Hunter with underage hookers.

And...no charges.
Posted by: 18-1

Aren't there also photos of Joe like that? I saw one that gave me nightmares.

Posted by: Prime Sister at August 03, 2023 03:42 PM (tQL7r)

92
unfortunately the CP criminality encompasses every demographic, every race, creed ,color, livelihood and profession.

It is a very sick, depraved population, and they are EVERYWHERE
Posted by: kallisto at August 03, 2023 03:38 PM (2njrJ)

They tend to heavily concentrate in careers with access to children and group with LGBT though. Sure there are some deeply closeted, but easy access and public protection and endorsement are both obvious things to go for.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 03, 2023 03:42 PM (eYoxG)

93 Yes he was a big disappointment but Sessions did make this a priority when he was AG.

Posted by: polynikes at August 03, 2023 03:42 PM (MNhXM)

94 They shoot dogs, they don't look for them
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards

They may look for one knowing they get to shoot it.

Posted by: BruceWayne at August 03, 2023 03:42 PM (CIS44)

95 How many did they find in Joe's basement?

Posted by: wth at August 03, 2023 03:42 PM (v0R5T)

96 Oh, and where's the Tranifesto?

Posted by: wth at August 03, 2023 03:43 PM (v0R5T)

97 Oh please. By now everybody with two brain cells to rub together and an ounce of intellectual integrity knows that the MSM and the elite establishment are simply tools of the Left. The Left wanted the Sound of Freedom smeared, and the Left got exactly what they wanted.
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Not particularly cruel.

3/10.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 03, 2023 03:43 PM (t0OGg)

98 78 You could raid all the Tejano bars and Asian massage parlors in Houston and find twice as many as this operation did.
Posted by: polynikes at

....

They can only raid the places the FBI doesn't frequent themselves.

Posted by: TexasDan at August 03, 2023 03:43 PM (X7yt5)

99 For years, too many Republicans pretended that liberals were good people, but merely misguided.

If you believe that today, you are not a good person.

Liberals are evil and sick and should be treated as such.

Posted by: Jay in PA at August 03, 2023 03:43 PM (i7Q7S)

100 Posted by: Puddinhead at August 03, 2023 03:38 PM (DmtxH)

the feebs have been squashing local LE child trafficking stings for a long time. There was one famous case in FL. The local cops busted a guy, they removed hefty bags full of evidence from his place and when they notified the feebs, the feebs told them to stop the investigation.

Posted by: kallisto at August 03, 2023 03:43 PM (2njrJ)

101 Have they recovered any more of Hunter's guns?

Posted by: Greta torabora at August 03, 2023 03:43 PM (OMcRZ)

102 I used to think they were the good guys. But then they did Ruby Ridge and Waco.

Posted by: DB - at August 03, 2023 03:43 PM (geLO8)

103 has anyone here ever checked out the Megan's Llist for their zip code?

It's astonishing how many convicted pedophiles live in the neighborhood.
Posted by: kallisto at August 03, 2023 03:39 PM (2njrJ)

When my oldest was getting ready to start kindergarten, the district shut down the local school and did not rebuild one in my little town. Now I cannot look at sites like that because of how many vultures have flocked here now that they can live here.

Posted by: Catherine at August 03, 2023 03:43 PM (ZSsrh)

104
Oh, and there are videos and pictures of Hunter with underage hookers.

I don't wanna admit to looking at a carefully censored picture of one of Hunters prey, but at least one of the pics I saw, there was no grooming necessarily involved in the 'nether regions'.

So glad the FIB are such square shooters. Top. Men.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at August 03, 2023 03:43 PM (enJYY)

105 During "Operation Cross County," the FBI located 59 victims of child sex trafficking and child sexual exploitation and 59 missing children.

The FBI teamed with state and local agencies to identify or arrest 126 suspects of child sexual exploitation and human trafficking and 68 suspected traffickers.

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59 kids and 68 slavers? That ratio doesn't make a tremendous amount of sense. If the slavers are actually slavers, where are the rest of the kids?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 03, 2023 03:44 PM (t0OGg)

106 Found 200 sex slaves at FBI safe houses and rendition sites.

Posted by: 13times at August 03, 2023 03:44 PM (ViFAb)

107 During "Operation Cross County,"
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Hey, FBI? How about "Operation Cross Border?"

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 03, 2023 03:44 PM (t0OGg)

108 Kids are sold into slavery and abused beyond all comprehensible sensibilities? No big deal, our betters just have to deal with Trump and J6. It is of the highest priority.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 03, 2023 03:44 PM (Xrfse)

109 Aren't there also photos of Joe like that? I saw one that gave me nightmares.

I haven't seen them, though who knows.

The one that sticks with me for Hunter is him yelling at a clearly underage girl to say that he did not hurt her.

Now...why would Hunter want a 16 year old (or thereabouts) girl to say for his video that he did not hurt her?

And...the obvious answer is because...he did.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 03, 2023 03:44 PM (lc5cP)

110 This is my pistol this is my gun.
My pistol is for dope dealing my gun is for fun.

Posted by: Hunter at August 03, 2023 03:44 PM (OMcRZ)

111 Two things that are always a shocker nowadays:

FBI actually doing a job it's intended to do.

A politician that ran as a conservative actually governed conservative!?! Quick, run this guy for president!!!

Posted by: JROD at August 03, 2023 03:45 PM (IlL6s)

112 14
Only Republicans were found in the sweep. Despite the fact these same 100 Republicans cast 10,000 votes for Joe Biden in 2020.

It's a mystery.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at August 03, 2023 03:28 PM (enJYY)

CNN, the New York Times, and WaPo agree.

All Evil Reich-Wing RethugliKKKans.

Posted by: XTC at August 03, 2023 03:45 PM (UnA8+)

113 What if there's one part of the FBI, doing what it's supposed to do, but also another part of the FBI that's been compartmentalized as enforcers for the Democrat party?

2 FBIs

just a theory
Posted by: DB - at August 03, 2023 03:40 PM (geLO

I think that's basically true. The ham n' eggers, the ones who are basically federal cops, operating around the country where and when a crime warrants federal attention, they do the everyday cop job, and give cover for the political operatives who make up the rest of the org.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 03, 2023 03:45 PM (dGCAG)

114 The Republicans will fully fund the FBI and provide a supplement so it can murder conservatives in the street. The GOP won't say "no" because it cannot say "no." It's a total waste of oxygen unless you are a totalitarian, for which it makes the perfect controlled opposition.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at August 03, 2023 03:45 PM (KSNKu)

115 Probably the FBI has something on most congressmen and is tapping their phones and emails, so its budget will pass with no problems and its wish list will be granted.
If there happen to be some that are immune to blackmail, surely there are advantages for those who cooperate.

Posted by: PG at August 03, 2023 03:45 PM (84jHt)

116 If the slavers are actually slavers, where are the rest of the kids?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 03, 2023 03:44 PM (t0OGg)

Assistant to the Deputy Slaver

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 03, 2023 03:45 PM (9UlRk)

117 Me: am I too cynical to think, they're just eliminating the competition to their own gangs?
Prime Sister: That's what my first thought was also.

It's how gangs work, after all.

Of all the horrors going on today in the world, in America, of all the cumulative opposition to what's right and good, and to family and decency, the hardest for me to wrap my mind around is the breadth, the shocking numbers, regarding rampant sex slavery, child sex abuse, and its peripherals like Those "coming for your children."

Is it wrong that I see some of these gatherings of the Evil Ones (to be generously unspecific) and think, target-rich environment, with extreme prejudice? Mfph.

Posted by: mindful webworker - deplorable megaMAGA bitter clinging Moron at August 03, 2023 03:46 PM (sD/OT)

118 Related:

"Florida sting targeting child sex exploitation finds nearly 40% of arrestees in US illegally"

Remember, without these people you wouldn't be able to buy lettuce in the grocery store!

Posted by: Jay in PA at August 03, 2023 03:46 PM (i7Q7S)

119 I think that's basically true. The ham n' eggers, the ones who are basically federal cops, operating around the country where and when a crime warrants federal attention, they do the everyday cop job, and give cover for the political operatives who make up the rest of the org.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 03, 2023 03:45 PM (dGCAG)

Guess which one is the top and which one is the bottom.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at August 03, 2023 03:46 PM (KSNKu)

120 Some of them just handle paperwork and fan mail.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 03, 2023 03:46 PM (9UlRk)

121 I thought all of this was a conspiracy theory...?
______________

The Reds characterizing something as a right-wing conspiracy theory constitutes validation that it's true, at least IMO.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 03, 2023 03:46 PM (YqDXo)

122 They tend to heavily concentrate in careers with access to children and group with LGBT though.

unfortunately no. A sigificant cohort of white collar professionals, who normally would be considered beyond reproach are being stung. There was a law passed under GWB that required tech platforms to report any suspicious activity on their servers. This is how notable individuals such as politicians and doctors, judges, and NBC television producers are getting caught.

And when you read what they transmit to each other, it is debased, horrifying, and sickening.

Posted by: kallisto at August 03, 2023 03:46 PM (2njrJ)

123 You could raid all the Tejano bars and Asian massage parlors in Houston and find twice as many as this operation did.
Posted by: polynikes at August 03, 2023 03:40 PM (MNhXM)

I am still waiting for the Bob Kraft Happy Ending Videos.

Release The Tapes!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 03, 2023 03:46 PM (5L/TD)

124 In Just a Two Week Sweep, FBI Finds 200 Child Trafficking Victims and 59 Missing Children
____________

Goosed into action by "Sound of Freedom?"

You make the call.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 03, 2023 03:46 PM (YqDXo)

125 100 Posted by: Puddinhead at August 03, 2023 03:38 PM (DmtxH)

the feebs have been squashing local LE child trafficking stings for a long time. There was one famous case in FL. The local cops busted a guy, they removed hefty bags full of evidence from his place and when they notified the feebs, the feebs told them to stop the investigation.
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Yep. Don't fuck with the FBI's snitches.

Posted by: Puddinhead at August 03, 2023 03:47 PM (J7wri)

126 Believe nothing the FBI claims or says it has done.

They plant evidence, frame up innocent people, spy on private citizens, rape, cover up crimes of those in power, lie, perjure themselves at will, kill innocent Americans, rape and help Joe Biden's son out of jams 24/7.

Believe nothing.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy

That's my default position, even with this story. It's probably bullshit too.

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at August 03, 2023 03:47 PM (kjOVp)

127 113 I think that's basically true. The ham n' eggers, the ones who are basically federal cops, operating around the country where and when a crime warrants federal attention, they do the everyday cop job, and give cover for the political operatives who make up the rest of the org.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 03, 2023 03:45 PM (dGCAG)

========

But if you want promotion, you suck up to the head guys who want to move to DC who have become political.

I doubt the rot is limited to DC.

I imagine it's like editorial control over newspapers. Anything important goes through the top guys, who are all political animals, but the smaller sections can get some decent news through because the guy who runs the "cat fashion" beat isn't that political.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 03, 2023 03:47 PM (LvTSG)

128 It's astonishing how many convicted pedophiles live in the neighborhood.

There's one listed right down the street from me. It's a female. None of my neighbors have ever seen her. Very odd.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 03, 2023 03:47 PM (Xrfse)

129 59 kids and 68 slavers? That ratio doesn't make a tremendous amount of sense. If the slavers are actually slavers, where are the rest of the kids?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 03, 2023 03:44 PM (t0OGg)

Presumably they're not holding onto all of them but catch and sell fairly quickly. I would assume a large network is needed to cover a broad geography as it'd be easiest to anonymize and hide the kids if they're moved to another country.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 03, 2023 03:47 PM (eYoxG)

130 has anyone here ever checked out the Megan's Llist for their zip code?

It's astonishing how many convicted pedophiles live in the neighborhood.
Posted by: kallisto

Yes. I checked out the SC city where my grandchildren live. It was sickening. Had to take a shower with a wire brush afterwards, I felt slimed.

Posted by: Prime Sister at August 03, 2023 03:47 PM (tQL7r)

131 Florida just did one of these ops and found that 40% of the perps were here illegally. Border still open. I fear that this is only a drop in the bucket of victims still being victimized.

Posted by: Cheri at August 03, 2023 03:47 PM (oiNtH)

132 There's something about Adam Schiff's face that tells me he's a slavery

Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at August 03, 2023 03:47 PM (aCNZ6)

133 "46.6 percent of those polled said that the FBI is "to be respected for their pursuit of justice and law and order,"

and half of those (perhaps) said that because they don't want to be put on an FBI black list.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 03, 2023 03:48 PM (Cus5s)

134 115 Probably the FBI has something on most congressmen and is tapping their phones and emails, so its budget will pass with no problems and its wish list will be granted.
If there happen to be some that are immune to blackmail, surely there are advantages for those who cooperate.
Posted by: PG at August 03, 2023 03:45 PM (84jHt)

Imagine you actually are an honest federal agent and for protection you depend on...Mitch McConnell and Kevin McCarthy. Those who have stepped forward as whistleblowers actually are admirable because thy realize the Republican Party would sell them out in a nanosecond.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at August 03, 2023 03:48 PM (KSNKu)

135 Ace, you should put up the Fast Times at Ridgemont High scene of Jeff Spicoli saying "Those guys are fags!" everytime you refer to the MSM.

Posted by: Darth Randall at August 03, 2023 03:48 PM (f1kZG)

136 94 They shoot dogs, they don't look for them
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards

They may look for one knowing they get to shoot it.
Posted by: BruceWayne at August 03, 2023 03:42 PM (CIS44)

ah, there's the motivation

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at August 03, 2023 03:48 PM (xcxpd)

137 79 I wouldn't trust the Eff Bee Eye to look for a lost dog
Posted by: Skip
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If they did find it, they would shoot it as a threat.

Posted by: whig at August 03, 2023 03:48 PM (bk5GW)

138
It's astonishing how many convicted pedophiles live in the neighborhood.

Posted by: kallisto at August 03, 2023 03:39 PM


Trailer park nearby? You found 'em. Must be something about fuel efficient small footage homes that attracts them. Or something.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at August 03, 2023 03:48 PM (enJYY)

139 118
Remember, without these people you wouldn't be able to buy lettuce in the grocery store!
Posted by: Jay in PA at August 03, 2023 03:46 PM (i7Q7S)

========

I was assured that inflation was a good thing because all industries are subsidized by the government to keep their prices low. Also, inflation is really bad because corporations are just hiking prices to maximize profits.

So, inflation is both good and bad and lettuce should be very expensive and dirt cheap at the same time.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 03, 2023 03:48 PM (LvTSG)

140 The reaction to the Sound of Freedom is astounding in many ways but I think the most astounding is the fact that there was a reaction at all.

There was no upside to coming out against it in terms of its plot details. Not like this movie is going to drastically alter public discourse to a point that it would sway government action.

They could've simply judged it on its merits as a movie, not a message.

Instead, they overreacted the way a kid does when you tell him you're about to throw away a toy he lied about not wanting.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 03, 2023 03:48 PM (KbCG3)

141 Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat
.......

That sonuvabitch. I hear he has bad breath, too.

Posted by: wth at August 03, 2023 03:49 PM (v0R5T)

142 Of all the horrors going on today in the world, in America, of all the cumulative opposition to what's right and good, and to family and decency, the hardest for me to wrap my mind around is the breadth, the shocking numbers, regarding rampant sex slavery, child sex abuse, and its peripherals like Those "coming for your children."

Posted by: mindful webworker - deplorable megaMAGA bitter clinging Moron at August 03, 2023 03:46 PM (sD/OT)
_______________

"It's for the children!" /unzips

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 03, 2023 03:49 PM (YqDXo)

143 I guarantee you that your average FBI agent thinks what the federal government did at Waco and Ruby Ridge is just fine.

Burn it to the ground.

Posted by: Jay in PA at August 03, 2023 03:49 PM (i7Q7S)

144 Yes. I checked out the SC city where my grandchildren live. It was sickening. Had to take a shower with a wire brush afterwards, I felt slimed.
Posted by: Prime Sister

I did this recently and was horrified at how many were in my town of 55K.

Posted by: Cheri at August 03, 2023 03:49 PM (oiNtH)

145 >>> 137 79 I wouldn't trust the Eff Bee Eye to look for a lost dog
Posted by: Skip
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If they did find it, they would shoot it as a threat.
Posted by: whig at August 03, 2023 03:48 PM (bk5GW)

It made a furtive movement with its tail!

Posted by: Top Men and Whammen of the Eff.Bee.EYE at August 03, 2023 03:49 PM (llON8)

146 Maybe these are just some of the ones that INS / DHS lost a few months back?

Posted by: garrett at August 03, 2023 03:49 PM (5D0zJ)

147 Speaking of...

Federal agent robbed on Magnificent Mile as nighttime robbery sprees continue

"On the Mag Mile, a 33-year-old man who identified himself as a Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF) agent was robbed at gunpoint in the 900 block of North Michigan around 2:22 a.m."

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 03, 2023 03:49 PM (IG4Id)

148 You could raid all the Tejano bars and Asian massage parlors in Houston and find twice as many as this operation did.

I went out to lunch a while back with my lefty cow-workers. At one point the topic turned to their favorite Asian massage parlors . And...they has some, err, strongly held, opinions.

Note, they were all married.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 03, 2023 03:50 PM (lc5cP)

149 For years, too many Republicans pretended that liberals were good people, but merely misguided.

If you believe that today, you are not a good person.

Liberals are evil and sick and should be treated as such.
Posted by: Jay in PA at August 03, 2023 03:43 PM (i7Q7S)

What's a liberal?

Nothing you've seen from the Democrat Party over the past few decades is even remotely "liberal."

Thomas Jefferson was a liberal. Abe Lincoln was a liberal. Teddy Roosevelt was a flaming liberal.

These people are not liberals.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 03, 2023 03:50 PM (dGCAG)

150 I wouldn't doubt they kidnapped or found runaways, trafficked them out to their " informants" then " rescued" them

Posted by: Skip at August 03, 2023 03:50 PM (MOY79)

151 The FBI found 200 sex trafficking victims and more than 125 suspects during a two-week child exploitation operation in July, federal officials said Tuesday.
During "Operation Cross County," the FBI located 59 victims of child sex trafficking and child sexual exploitation and 59 missing children.


And that was just on the second floor of the HQs.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 03, 2023 03:50 PM (e4fEA)

152 For years, too many Republicans pretended that liberals were good people, but merely misguided.

If you believe that today, you are not a good person.

Liberals are evil and sick and should be treated as such.
Posted by: Jay in PA at August 03, 2023 03:43 PM (i7Q7S)

Most of my social circle are pretty big liberals. They're not evil or sick, they're just kind of idiots.

They have a very "I don't want to be bothered thinking about it" way of looking at the world.

someone says "there are so many homeless people, this is ridiculous" and they say "well, I don't know, why doesnt the government just get them an apartment or something?" "how do you pay for that?" "whatever, raise the taxes on the rich." "Okay, but if you put them in an apartment, that probably won't solve their fentanyl addiction or serious mental health problems" "jesus dude, whatever. Hire some social workers. I don't know, there are experts in this stuff, just listen to whatever they say."

and that's about the end of their thoughts on any subject.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 03, 2023 03:50 PM (mj0Qp)

153 Me: am I too cynical to think, they're just eliminating the competition to their own gangs?
Prime Sister: That's what my first thought was also.

It's how gangs work, after all.

...

Nothing is more likely. Spanish government is trafficking the kids they "save" from migrants. The FBI is not going to miss out.

Obama s secret service detail got caught with underage girls in Haiti or someplace and nothing ever came of it. Same with the NJ senator.

Posted by: TexasDan at August 03, 2023 03:50 PM (X7yt5)

154 131 Florida just did one of these ops and found that 40% of the perps were here illegally. Border still open. I fear that this is only a drop in the bucket of victims still being victimized.
Posted by: Cheri
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For the organized gangs, pretty true. Then you have the sick secondary market where people buy the pron produced of child sex trafficking.

Posted by: whig at August 03, 2023 03:50 PM (bk5GW)

155 128 It's astonishing how many convicted pedophiles live in the neighborhood.
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There's an app that identifies where all the convicted sexual criminals live. US 1 in NOVA is like a pearl necklace for sexual deviants.

Posted by: Puddinhead at August 03, 2023 03:50 PM (J7wri)

156 If the slavers are actually slavers, where are the rest of the kids?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 03, 2023 03:44 PM (t0OGg)

Assistant to the Deputy Slaver
Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 03, 2023 03:45 PM (9UlRk)

------------

Trustee slavers?

Posted by: ShainS -- We're Happy Ace's Geriatric Club ... at August 03, 2023 03:51 PM (8AZzc)

157 46.6 percent of those polled said that the FBI is "to be respected for their pursuit of justice and law and order," while 46.2 percent said that the FBI is "too political, corrupt, and not to be trusted."


And "incompetent." Don't forget incompetent.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 03, 2023 03:51 PM (guGkK)

158 Some of them just handle paperwork and fan mail.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 03, 2023 03:46 PM (9UlRk)
........

and ignore Hot Line recordings.

Posted by: wth at August 03, 2023 03:51 PM (v0R5T)

159 I don't 100% like those lists, because i don't trust the people who make them. Oh, some guy's name is on the list? He must be a p3do! .... or he fooled around with a 16 year old when he was 18. Or he tried to rescue a child from their abusive mother who some judge said "deserved" custody. Or some shithead ADA railroaded him for something he didn't even do just to get a scalp to goose their stats for the election, and the public defender couldn't really be arsed to do their job.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 03, 2023 03:51 PM (9UlRk)

160 "There was no upside to coming out against it in terms of its plot details. Not like this movie is going to drastically alter public discourse to a point that it would sway government action."

I believe there was a panic somewhere as the trafficking issue offers an unassailable argument for closing the border. The left couldn't have THAT become mainstream...

Posted by: Jake Speed at August 03, 2023 03:51 PM (Vu1jV)

161 King Harv is on a river raid saving trafficked children.
Posted by: TexasDan at August 03, 2023 03:41 PM (X7yt5)

Apocalypse Harv

Posted by: BifBewalski at August 03, 2023 03:51 PM (3CCua)

162 And don't think it's just men who are perpetrating these awful crimes against children. Yes, they are the majority criminals, but now women are partnering with male p3dos to breed their own little victims.

I know it sounds unbelievable, but a white hat hacker talked about the communications he intercepted in which a female perp talked about having a baby with a male perp in order to abuse the child. I thought it was just their weird pervy fantasy, until I saw the charging document of the NBC producer who got busted. He was a big fan of a guy who filmed himself brutally raping an infant...a baby.

I thought: who has access to a child that small? Only two possibilities: a doctor, or a dad. And sure enough, the texts that this particular perp sent involved getting a woman to breed victims with him.

Posted by: kallisto at August 03, 2023 03:52 PM (2njrJ)

163 I'm betting Joe had a few diverted to his Delaware Beach House.

Posted by: garrett at August 03, 2023 03:52 PM (5D0zJ)

164 46.2 percent said that the FBI is "too political, corrupt, and not to be trusted."

I can't understand this!

Posted by: Stephen Hatfill at August 03, 2023 03:52 PM (guGkK)

165 Reports are that Jack Smith just walked into the courtroom with a foot long Italian with hot peppers from Subway.

Shit just got real!

Posted by: JackStraw at August 03, 2023 03:52 PM (ZLI7S)

166 46.2 percent said that the FBI is "too political, corrupt, and not to be trusted."

I can't understand this!
Posted by: Stephen Hatfill at August 03, 2023 03:52 PM (guGkK)


Me neither!

Posted by: Richard Jewell at August 03, 2023 03:53 PM (guGkK)

167 But if you want promotion, you suck up to the head guys who want to move to DC who have become political.

I doubt the rot is limited to DC.

I imagine it's like editorial control over newspapers. Anything important goes through the top guys, who are all political animals, but the smaller sections can get some decent news through because the guy who runs the "cat fashion" beat isn't that political.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 03, 2023 03:47 PM (LvTSG)

I'm sure that's true. Not unlike local cops and even military. You want to move up? There's only so far you can go... unless you're willing to sell your soul to the Bureaucracy/Deep State.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 03, 2023 03:53 PM (dGCAG)

168 We have 20 or more "Lily's Nail Salon" in town. Do those count?

Posted by: 13times at August 03, 2023 03:53 PM (ViFAb)

169 The reaction to the Sound of Freedom is astounding in many ways but I think the most astounding is the fact that there was a reaction at all.

There was no upside to coming out against it in terms of its plot details. Not like this movie is going to drastically alter public discourse to a point that it would sway government action.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 03, 2023 03:48 PM (KbCG3)
______________

The left's reaction to Sound of Freedom is, frankly, astonishing. If there were ONE issue on which you'd think we'd all agree, it would be that child sex trafficking was a bad thing. But apparently not.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 03, 2023 03:53 PM (YqDXo)

170 >>> 160 I don't 100% like those lists, because i don't trust the people who make them. Oh, some guy's name is on the list? He must be a p3do! .... or he fooled around with a 16 year old when he was 18. Or he tried to rescue a child from their abusive mother who some judge said "deserved" custody. Or some shithead ADA railroaded him for something he didn't even do just to get a scalp to goose their stats for the election, and the public defender couldn't really be arsed to do their job.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 03, 2023 03:51 PM (9UlRk)

Not to mention those who *aren't* on the list but should be, due to connections, such as being the pResident's son.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 03, 2023 03:53 PM (llON8)

171 And now, for something completely different, a monkey in a snow suit playing in the snow.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=M0f5uPggL0k

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 03, 2023 03:53 PM (FVME7)

172 140 The reaction to the Sound of Freedom is astounding in many ways but I think the most astounding is the fact that there was a reaction at all.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 03, 2023 03:48 PM (KbCG3)

Part of the Left has been openly messaging that being right-wing means you oppose pedophilia since at least 2016. Less publicly their academic argument for pedophilia and incest has been around since at least the sexual revolution.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 03, 2023 03:53 PM (eYoxG)

173 How many of these “arrests” were glowies? I’d say easily 50%. It’s all an op, it’s all bullshit? It’s all lies.
And the ones they did legit arrest will get 10 day suspended sentences From Obama and Biden judges.

Posted by: Montec at August 03, 2023 03:53 PM (iJNVe)

174 It made a furtive movement with its tail!
Posted by: Top Men and Whammen of the Eff.Bee.EYE at August 03, 2023 03:49 PM (llON

My dog moves his whole body when he's furting.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 03, 2023 03:53 PM (9UlRk)

175 Does anyone remember that time they rounded up the organizer of a child sex trafficker who was running some kind of pedo resort for rich people? I can't remember the guys name, it was like Einstein or something.

What ever came of that? I bet a lot of big wigs went down on that one.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 03, 2023 03:54 PM (evMii)

176 "whatever, raise the taxes on the rich." "Okay, but if you put them in an apartment, that probably won't solve their fentanyl addiction or serious mental health problems" "jesus dude, whatever. Hire some social workers. I don't know, there are experts in this stuff, just listen to whatever they say."

Living in a blue area I know plenty of people like that.

They also complain endlessly about the taxes they pay, when low income housing is built in their neighborhood, and will lose their absolute minds if they are the victims of crime.

The last part is especially amusing. They will quickly go from "why are these racist cops always harassing innocent minorities/homeless/whatever. They need help!" to "Why the hell didn't the cops shoot the guy that mugged me?!?" BUT...only if it personally happens to them. If it happens to a neighbor it is, "Don't be racist, he probably needed that money more then you did"

Posted by: 18-1 at August 03, 2023 03:54 PM (lc5cP)

177 46.2 percent said that the FBI is "too political, corrupt, and not to be trusted."

I can't understand this!
Posted by: Stephen Hatfill at August 03, 2023 03:52 PM (guGkK)

Me neither!
Posted by: Richard Jewell at August 03, 2023 03:53 PM (guGkK)
________________

Oh, they're not so bad. They let me run amok for years while they looked for a white guy in the ghetto.

Posted by: Wayne Williams at August 03, 2023 03:54 PM (YqDXo)

178 146 Maybe these are just some of the ones that INS / DHS lost a few months back?

Posted by: garrett at August 03, 2023 03:49 PM (5D0zJ)


It would be nice if we had some details.

It should be on the DOJ website

Posted by: kallisto at August 03, 2023 03:54 PM (2njrJ)

179 Reports are that Jack Smith just walked into the courtroom with a foot long Italian with hot peppers from Subway.

Your honor, I desperately need a bathroom break!

Posted by: Jack Smith at August 03, 2023 03:55 PM (v0R5T)

180 "Who are the pedos in your neighborhood? In your neighborhood....in your neigh bor hood...."

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at August 03, 2023 03:55 PM (xcxpd)

181 I'm surprised Merrick Garland didn't indicate where the children were being held. When Trump admin busted these rings, we were told exactly where they were.
Posted by: kallisto at August 03, 2023 03:36 PM (2njrJ)



Uh, these were "composite" crimes.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 03, 2023 03:55 PM (guGkK)

182 I don't 100% like those lists, because i don't trust the people who make them

You do have to read the details.

In Soviet America you can end up on the sex offender list for pissing in an alley behind a bar at night, but NOT for twerking in the face of a toddler.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 03, 2023 03:55 PM (lc5cP)

183 The left's reaction to Sound of Freedom is, frankly, astonishing. If there were ONE issue on which you'd think we'd all agree, it would be that child sex trafficking was a bad thing. But apparently not.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 03, 2023 03:53 PM (YqDXo)

Nope. And their efforts to discredit it just show how much better this world would be by their demise.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 03, 2023 03:55 PM (KbCG3)

184 160 I don't 100% like those lists, because i don't trust the people who make them. Oh, some guy's name is on the list? He must be a p3do! .... or he fooled around with a 16 year old when he was 18. Or he tried to rescue a child from their abusive mother who some judge said "deserved" custody. Or some shithead ADA railroaded him for something he didn't even do just to get a scalp to goose their stats for the election, and the public defender couldn't really be arsed to do their job.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 03, 2023 03:51 PM (9UlRk)

Yeah the threshold for getting on that list is pretty low. Some of them did stupid shit like got drunk and showed their dick in public. But they’re in the same category of “sex offender” as a guy who raped a 12 year old.

Posted by: Montec at August 03, 2023 03:56 PM (iJNVe)

185 Most of my social circle are pretty big liberals. They're not evil or sick, they're just kind of idiots.

They have a very "I don't want to be bothered thinking about it" way of looking at the world.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
-----------
I'd keep your mouth shut around them about political opinions. I've seen that type turn on a dime from seeming nice to stoning disbelievers in my line of work (heavily blue).

Posted by: whig at August 03, 2023 03:56 PM (bk5GW)

186 Those poor kids are going to damaged in many ways, large and small. If any of them turn out remotely normal, it will be miraculous.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at August 03, 2023 03:56 PM (MeG8a)

187 "Okay, but if you put them in an apartment, that probably won't solve their fentanyl addiction or serious mental health problems"
______________

Save your breath. Pointing out this obvious fact will never penetrate their intellectual carapace.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 03, 2023 03:56 PM (YqDXo)

188 And that was just on the second floor of the HQs.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 03, 2023 03:50 PM (e4fEA)

--------

Heh.

Posted by: ShainS -- We're Happy Ace's Geriatric Club ... at August 03, 2023 03:56 PM (CRfWW)

189 Most of my social circle are pretty big liberals.

How very unfortunate.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 03, 2023 03:57 PM (Xrfse)

190 Honey, those are just the ones that got caught.

Posted by: its worse than you think at August 03, 2023 03:53 PM (sh1GZ)


I'm aware of that. The ethical hacker who cracked the p3do network located a board that hosted THOUSANDS of these creeps. They haven't been convicted of anything yet. And most of them never will be.

Posted by: kallisto at August 03, 2023 03:57 PM (2njrJ)

191 Reports are that Jack Smith just walked into the courtroom with a foot long Italian with hot peppers from Subway.

Shit just got real runny!

Posted by: JackStraw at August 03, 2023 03:52 PM (ZLI7S)

Posted by: wth at August 03, 2023 03:57 PM (v0R5T)

192 If there happen to be some that are immune to blackmail, surely there are advantages for those who cooperate.
Posted by: PG

Those are the ones that get threatened. Themselves, their family, small children, etc.

Posted by: Prime Sister at August 03, 2023 03:57 PM (tQL7r)

193
The left's reaction to Sound of Freedom is, frankly, astonishing. If there were ONE issue on which you'd think we'd all agree, it would be that child sex trafficking was a bad thing. But apparently not.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 03, 2023 03:53 PM (YqDXo)

If a Republican had a magic wand to end world hunger and bring about world peace at least 50% of leftists would oppose its use.

Posted by: Montec at August 03, 2023 03:58 PM (iJNVe)

194 I'd keep your mouth shut around them about political opinions. I've seen that type turn on a dime from seeming nice to stoning disbelievers in my line of work (heavily blue).
Posted by: whig at August 03, 2023 03:56 PM (bk5GW)

Excellent advice. Gone are the days when acquaintances are friends by default.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 03, 2023 03:58 PM (9UlRk)

195
I'm not sure the legality of same but I think buying a $500,000 life insurance policy on Jack Smith might be a sound investment.

But he's gotta last two years, I think. Damn the math!

Banana Republics have a downside to those who choose to abuse the bananas.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at August 03, 2023 03:58 PM (enJYY)

196 The US State Department directly funds several NGO's that facilitate the abduction, trafficking and enslavement of children and young adults from Central and South America. Of course they purport to do "other" stuff in those areas that wouldn't necessarily be illegal.

Your taxes pay for it. Imagine that.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 03, 2023 03:58 PM (Q4IgG)

197 The FBI only targets ppl the GOPe want targeted.

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 03, 2023 03:59 PM (e04UD)

198 If a Republican had a magic wand to end world hunger and bring about world peace at least 50% of leftists would oppose its use.
Posted by: Montec at August 03, 2023 03:58 PM (iJNVe)


Only 50%???

"You know, feeding people only encourages them to breed. And we can't have that!"

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 03, 2023 03:59 PM (guGkK)

199 Yeah, this is all just PR. They knew exactly where to find these kids IYKWIMAITYD.

Posted by: InZona at August 03, 2023 03:59 PM (a9vhT)

200 196 If a Republican had a magic wand to end world hunger and bring about world peace at least 50% of leftists would oppose its use.
Posted by: Montec at August 03, 2023 03:58 PM (iJNVe)

========

"Donald Trump cures cancer, puts 100% of oncologists out of work. Women and minorities hardest hit."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 03, 2023 03:59 PM (LvTSG)

201 I was wondering who the FBI stole the credit from because I was certain they weren't going to go after P-files on their own.

They protect people like that. For a fee, of course.

Then I read this:

"The FBI teamed with state and local agencies to identify or arrest 126 suspects of child sexual exploitation and human trafficking and 68 suspected traffickers."

AH. That's who really did the work.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 03, 2023 03:59 PM (KUmG1)

202 Reports are that Jack Smith just walked into the courtroom with a foot long Italian with hot peppers from Subway.

Your honor, I desperately need a bathroom break!
Posted by: Jack Smith at August 03, 2023 03:55 PM (v0R5T)

I want you to eat the whole sausage

Posted by: Mario Cuomo at August 03, 2023 03:59 PM (NtVYv)

203 Posted by: Montec at August 03, 2023 03:56 PM (iJNVe)

In my jurisdiction the level of the violation is posted with the offender's record. Most of the ones I have seen have involved at the very least...inappropriate touching of minor children.

I didn't see any 20 year old guys whose 16 yr old girlfriend turned them in for stautory rape, or some drunk dude who got caught taking a leak outside the bar.

Posted by: kallisto at August 03, 2023 04:00 PM (2njrJ)

204 someone says "there are so many homeless people, this is ridiculous" and they say "well, I don't know, why doesnt the government just get them an apartment or something?"
______________

This is exactly why I correct people who call vagrants "homeless" - it suggests that if they had a home, everything would be hunky-dory. It scratches where it doesn't itch, and therefore does nothing whatever to address the problem, which as you point out, is substance abuse and/or mental health problems.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 03, 2023 04:00 PM (YqDXo)

205 The left's reaction to Sound of Freedom is, frankly, astonishing. If there were ONE issue on which you'd think we'd all agree, it would be that child sex trafficking was a bad thing. But apparently not.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 03, 2023 03:53 PM (YqDXo)
++++
They'll happily agree that it's bad.

The problem is that they don't want to acknowledge that it happens. Or that it's often enabled by governments and the hero migrants from south of the border. Or partaken in by the ruling class.

If the only question is "is child sex slavery bad," then they will agree. Imply that it actually happens or that it's a major industry or, even worse, that there is often tacit state approval of it (our state or someone else's), however, and they close ranks.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 03, 2023 04:00 PM (t0OGg)

206 Is there nothing that damn Trump wont do?

CNN journo notes Trump's politicizing attempts to throw him in jail

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 03, 2023 04:00 PM (FVME7)

207 There is a video out of a coroner who figured out that pedophiles could be identified by just their hands in photographs. The image has to be fiddler with to get the veins in their hands to show up but this is possible in a lot of instances.

The patterns of our veins are 100 percent unique.

What this person wanted to do was have Facebook run scans of everyone's hands in their database since they have such a huge one. I think this is what Apple was thinking of doing at one point. It's a huge invasion of privacy obviously.

I do wish there were a way though to use that tech to catch people in a way that didn't involve the government obtaining everyone's identifying bio markers.

Posted by: TexasDan at August 03, 2023 04:01 PM (X7yt5)

208 Reports are that Jack Smith just walked into the courtroom with a foot long Italian with hot peppers from Subway.


That's ironic, since if Trump gets two more indictments he's entitled to a free six-inch Subway sandwich of his choice (hot sandwiches excluded).

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 03, 2023 04:01 PM (guGkK)

209 That's 59 less kids Joe won't be sniffing....

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 03, 2023 04:01 PM (ZFZoe)

210 I saw Intellectual Carapace open for The Turtles at The Village Underground in '69.

Posted by: ShainS -- We're Happy Ace's Geriatric Club ... at August 03, 2023 04:01 PM (CRfWW)

211 Posted by: kallisto at August 03, 2023 03:52 PM (2njrJ

I could have lived all my days without knowing this. Death is too good for these people. They are demonic.

Posted by: CaliGirl at August 03, 2023 04:01 PM (UYUKJ)

212 and half of those (perhaps) said that because they don't want to be put on an FBI black list.
Posted by: illiniwek

That's exactly how I've answered phone surveys since 2007.

Posted by: Prime Sister at August 03, 2023 04:01 PM (tQL7r)

213 CNN journo notes Trump's politicizing attempts to throw him in jail
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 03, 2023 04:00 PM (FVME7)

Pouncing and seizing. Pouncing and seizing.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 03, 2023 04:01 PM (9UlRk)

214 And honestly, I give no fvcks if relatively innocent men end up on Megan's List. I want to know which houses to avoid, not for myself, but for the children in my personal network.

I was almost abducted from my own backyard when I was 5 years old. I have zero tolerance for any of this shit.

Posted by: kallisto at August 03, 2023 04:01 PM (2njrJ)

215 CNN journo notes Trump's politicizing attempts to throw him in jail

THE BALLS ON THAT GUY!!!!!!!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 03, 2023 04:02 PM (guGkK)

216 Banana Republics have a downside to those who choose to abuse the bananas.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at August 03, 2023 03:58 PM (enJYY)

This is about me, isn't it?

Posted by: Lizzo at August 03, 2023 04:02 PM (v0R5T)

217 174 Part of the Left has been openly messaging that being right-wing means you oppose pedophilia since at least 2016. Less publicly their academic argument for pedophilia and incest has been around since at least the sexual revolution.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 03, 2023 03:53 PM (eYoxG)

Kind of the other way around. That opposing pedophilia makes you Right Wing.

And (in their eyes) the most evil thing you can be is Right Wing.

Posted by: XTC at August 03, 2023 04:02 PM (UnA8+)

218 I tried to look up the offenders list on the Meagan’s Law List and they wanted everything but my bank password to set up an account to get the info.

No thank you.

Posted by: polynikes at August 03, 2023 04:02 PM (MNhXM)

219 The US State Department directly funds several NGO's that facilitate the abduction, trafficking and enslavement of children and young adults from Central and South America. Of course they purport to do "other" stuff in those areas that wouldn't necessarily be illegal.

Your taxes pay for it. Imagine that.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 03, 2023 03:58 PM (Q4IgG)
++++
Any NGO that accepts taxpayer money is *not* an NGO. It's merely an alternative policy vehicle.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 03, 2023 04:02 PM (t0OGg)

220 >>Most of my social circle are pretty big liberals.

How very unfortunate.

This may make me a graceless person but I have completely ghosted forever the liberals that used to be in my social circle. Those that I have to be around - like at work - I ignore completely and do not even engage in small talk. I hate these people and do not have the time or patience for them any longer.

Posted by: Frasier Crane at August 03, 2023 04:02 PM (bNf8H)

221 Good. I'm glad they're caught.

But how much time and effort was spent here?

Chris Wray could amble down the street to the Capitol with a suitcase full of subpoenas, knock on the doors of the House and Senate, and round up hundreds of perps and thousands of vics for less than a tenth of whatever he spent here.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 03, 2023 04:02 PM (0FoWg)

222 211 There is a video out of a coroner who figured out that pedophiles could be identified by just their hands in photographs. The image has to be fiddler with to get the veins in their hands to show up but this is possible in a lot of instances.

The patterns of our veins are 100 percent unique.

What this person wanted to do was have Facebook run scans of everyone's hands in their database since they have such a huge one. I think this is what Apple was thinking of doing at one point. It's a huge invasion of privacy obviously.

I do wish there were a way though to use that tech to catch people in a way that didn't involve the government obtaining everyone's identifying bio markers.
Posted by: TexasDan at August 03, 2023 04:01 PM (X7yt5)

Took me a second to figure out how that'd be helpful. I guess their hands show up in the pictures?

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 03, 2023 04:02 PM (eYoxG)

223 Isn't DJT to report to Kangaroo Court at 4pm?
Sucks not having my internet connection

Posted by: Skip at August 03, 2023 04:03 PM (MOY79)

224 I could have lived all my days without knowing this. Death is too good for these people. They are demonic.

Posted by: CaliGirl at August 03, 2023 04:01 PM (UYUKJ)


CaliGirl, I'm with you a hundred percent.

The more I learn about these sick bastids, the more I wonder why God hasn't already vaporized this shithole of a planet.

Posted by: kallisto at August 03, 2023 04:03 PM (2njrJ)

225 Most of my social circle are pretty big liberals. They're not evil or sick, they're just kind of idiots.

They have a very "I don't want to be bothered thinking about it" way of looking at the world.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
***

It must be nice growing up in an America where you don't have to think about why we have it so good. To believe that everyday you get up it will be the same old place...in perpetuity. No worries about clean water or electricity. Go to the Mall, there will always be stuff. Go to the store, there will always be food. The biggest concern is the cost of tickets to TayTay concert.
It is sad.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 03, 2023 04:03 PM (e4fEA)

226 I'd keep your mouth shut around them about political opinions. I've seen that type turn on a dime from seeming nice to stoning disbelievers in my line of work (heavily blue).
Posted by: whig at August 03, 2023 03:56 PM (bk5GW)
_______________

Here in the People's Republic patriotic Americans have to gingerly feel out each other's politics by making oblique references to events, etc., and watching the other's reaction. You definitely don't want to be an out and proud conservative in many venues. It's just not worth the hassle.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 03, 2023 04:03 PM (YqDXo)

227 That's 59 less kids Joe won't be sniffing....
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 03, 2023 04:01 PM (ZFZoe)
++++
They were taken in by the FBI. All bets are off.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 03, 2023 04:03 PM (t0OGg)

228 Sure is handy for the left that Trump is getting all the media coverage while Devon Archer's testimony is being released.

By the way, Joe has been lying. You know, in case you were wondering.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 03, 2023 04:03 PM (ZLI7S)

229 What if Jack Smith eats at a Jimmy Johns?

Posted by: Montec at August 03, 2023 04:04 PM (iJNVe)

230 218 And honestly, I give no fvcks if relatively innocent men end up on Megan's List. I want to know which houses to avoid, not for myself, but for the children in my personal network.

I was almost abducted from my own backyard when I was 5 years old. I have zero tolerance for any of this shit.
Posted by: kallisto at August 03, 2023 04:01 PM (2njrJ)

They grind up just as good in a woodchipper as the truly nasty and demonic ones.

Posted by: XTC at August 03, 2023 04:04 PM (UnA8+)

231 I'd keep your mouth shut around them about political opinions. I've seen that type turn on a dime from seeming nice to stoning disbelievers in my line of work (heavily blue).
Posted by: whig at August 03, 2023 03:56 PM (bk5GW)

I do my best. But I think most people just assume my politics -- I'm a straight white man, approaching middle aged (?!?!), who doesn't make a big scene out of being over the top liberal.

So they assume I'm a racist Trump voter.

Not much I can do about that.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 03, 2023 04:04 PM (mj0Qp)

232 221 174 Part of the Left has been openly messaging that being right-wing means you oppose pedophilia since at least 2016. Less publicly their academic argument for pedophilia and incest has been around since at least the sexual revolution.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 03, 2023 03:53 PM (eYoxG)

Kind of the other way around. That opposing pedophilia makes you Right Wing.

And (in their eyes) the most evil thing you can be is Right Wing.
Posted by: XTC at August 03, 2023 04:02 PM (UnA8+)

Same angle essentially but they were arguing that pedophilia was a positive moral good and hence opposing it made you a dirty rightwinger(the most unclean thing possible).

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 03, 2023 04:04 PM (eYoxG)

233 >>Isn't DJT to report to Kangaroo Court at 4pm?
Sucks not having my internet connection

He's in court right now.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 03, 2023 04:04 PM (ZLI7S)

234 I never keep my mouth shut to go along.

Posted by: polynikes at August 03, 2023 04:05 PM (MNhXM)

235 235 I'd keep your mouth shut around them about political opinions. I've seen that type turn on a dime from seeming nice to stoning disbelievers in my line of work (heavily blue).
Posted by: whig at August 03, 2023 03:56 PM (bk5GW)

I do my best. But I think most people just assume my politics -- I'm a straight white man, approaching middle aged (?!?!), who doesn't make a big scene out of being over the top liberal.

So they assume I'm a racist Trump voter.

Not much I can do about that.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 03, 2023 04:04 PM (mj0Qp)

Well tbh it is that easy to identify unless you run around pretending to love pot as much as JackStraw.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 03, 2023 04:05 PM (eYoxG)

236 If you want to know why the Left is flipping shit on Sound of Freedom, I posted about it at length a couple weeks ago.

Hint: it's not about us on the right.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 03, 2023 04:06 PM (0FoWg)

237 FBI finally decided to look into Hunter's lil black book

Posted by: REDACTED at August 03, 2023 04:06 PM (us2H3)

238 Thanks JackStraw, bad day to have them do a outage

Posted by: Skip at August 03, 2023 04:06 PM (MOY79)

239 Why, you may ask, has it taken over 3v years for this?

Because they had to warn off and remove all the pedos with .gov emails.

This is the list after three years of wiping the files clean off all their own.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 03, 2023 04:06 PM (ZFZoe)

240 Days, not weeks.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 03, 2023 04:06 PM (0FoWg)

241 Reports are that Jack Smith just walked into the courtroom with a foot long Italian with hot peppers from Subway.

+++++++++

Heard Dershowitz make a case recently that -- once Trump is acquitted of this idiocy (he says no way Supreme Court would let a free speech conviction stand) -- Jack Smith and his merry band of buttboys (I would expect that to include Garland) himself should be indicted and prosecuted for conspiring to deny Donald Trump of his constitutional civil rights.

Posted by: ShainS -- We're Happy Ace's Geriatric Club ... at August 03, 2023 04:06 PM (CRfWW)

242 230 I'd keep your mouth shut around them about political opinions. I've seen that type turn on a dime from seeming nice to stoning disbelievers in my line of work (heavily blue).
Posted by: whig at August 03, 2023 03:56 PM (bk5GW)
_______________

Here in the People's Republic patriotic Americans have to gingerly feel out each other's politics by making oblique references to events, etc., and watching the other's reaction. You definitely don't want to be an out and proud conservative in many venues. It's just not worth the hassle.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 03, 2023 04:03 PM (YqDXo)

I like to reference the Atlanta riots.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 03, 2023 04:06 PM (eYoxG)

243 Banana Republic is okay but I always preferred J Crew.

Posted by: blaster at August 03, 2023 04:06 PM (8SAJV)

244 "Florida sting targeting child sex exploitation finds nearly 40% of arrestees in US illegally"
Remember, without these people you wouldn't be able to buy lettuce in the grocery store!
Posted by: Jay in PA'

You totally could but it would cost a lot more and a whole lotsa 'Murricans think food should be free.

Posted by: LenNeal at August 03, 2023 04:07 PM (/BBNv)

245 >>Isn't DJT to report to Kangaroo Court at 4pm?
Sucks not having my internet connection

He's in court right now.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 03, 2023 04:04 PM (ZLI7S)
.......

Taking names. Making a list.

Posted by: wth at August 03, 2023 04:07 PM (v0R5T)

246 229 It must be nice growing up in an America where you don't have to think about why we have it so good. To believe that everyday you get up it will be the same old place...in perpetuity. No worries about clean water or electricity. Go to the Mall, there will always be stuff. Go to the store, there will always be food. The biggest concern is the cost of tickets to TayTay concert.
It is sad.
Posted by: Diogenes at August 03, 2023 04:03 PM (e4fEA)

They should be forced to have a purple-haired antifa tranny scream in their ear at point-blank range about what evil racist nazis they are for being white and straight.

Posted by: XTC at August 03, 2023 04:07 PM (UnA8+)

247 Most of my social circle are pretty big liberals.

How very unfortunate.
_______________

I'm very fortunate. All but one of my baseball buddies is conservative, as are most of my neighbors. American flags abound in the neighborhood; out of eight houses on our street, three of us have American flags out and proud.

And this in Cali, no less.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 03, 2023 04:07 PM (YqDXo)

248 Here in the People's Republic patriotic Americans have to gingerly feel out each other's politics by making oblique references to events, etc., and watching the other's reaction. You definitely don't want to be an out and proud conservative in many venues. It's just not worth the hassle.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 03, 2023 04:03 PM (YqDXo)

Yeah, exactly. If I don't answer with the correct shibboleths, they know I'm not one of them. And a lot of it is very subtle.

Not much I can do about it.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 03, 2023 04:07 PM (mj0Qp)

249 Took me a second to figure out how that'd be helpful. I guess their hands show up in the pictures?
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 03, 2023 04:02

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Correct. For horrible reasons I suspect.

Posted by: TexasDan at August 03, 2023 04:07 PM (X7yt5)

250 190 "Okay, but if you put them in an apartment, that probably won't solve their fentanyl addiction or serious mental health problems"
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Save your breath. Pointing out this obvious fact will never penetrate their intellectual carapace.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 03, 2023 03:56 PM (YqDXo)

Liberals always have simple solutions to all problems that always rely on both someone else's money and a set of experts that don't exist and are proven ineffectual if they do.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 03, 2023 04:07 PM (KbCG3)

251 Dershowitz says a lot of things.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 03, 2023 04:08 PM (9UlRk)

252 Where are the Epstein videos and what do they show?

Posted by: ShainS -- We're Happy Ace's Geriatric Club ... at August 03, 2023 04:08 PM (CRfWW)

253 I like to reference the Atlanta riots.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 03, 2023 04:06 PM (eYoxG)
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Sorry, I don't get the reference.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 03, 2023 04:08 PM (YqDXo)

254 I just can't. I'll be back later.

Dear Lord in Heaven. We are surrounded by demons.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gen X Ne'er-Do-Well at August 03, 2023 04:08 PM (xPJvm)

255 Perhaps the Sounds of Freedom was "inspirational" &/or embarrassing.

Just the tip of the iceberg, may the search for child trafficking victims and missing children continue with regularity. (Hit & stick on states' foster agencies.) Never forget ALL children of abuse.

Posted by: L - Practice makes perfect. They know their enemy at August 03, 2023 04:09 PM (GshMh)

256 Why, you may ask, has it taken over 3v years for this?

Because they had to warn off and remove all the pedos with .gov emails.

This is the list after three years of wiping the files clean off all their own.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 03, 2023 04:06 PM (ZFZoe)
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Possibly, but I doubt it. I bet they have any number of busts lined up - slavery rings, drug rings, terrorist rings, bank fraud rings, etc. - at any given time. They do the investigation and then put it on ice and just keep tabs on it in case any of the players change.

Note how whenever the credibility of the FBI is under major attack, they suddenly have a big bust on whatever the most loudly-discussed issue of the day is. If it's drugs, they have a big drug bust. If it's terrorism, they sweep up some terrorists. If it's child sex trafficking, they take down a trafficking ring.

I doubt this is about protecting government officials, but I have no trouble whatsoever believing that it's about the FBI's image. They *could* have done it for a long time, but they held it in reserve (and therefore let it keep happening) until it was *really* useful to take it down.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 03, 2023 04:09 PM (t0OGg)

257 Here in the People's Republic patriotic Americans have to gingerly feel out each other's politics by making oblique references to events, etc., and watching the other's reaction.

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Before he was cancelled, Gavin McInnes called this "conservative gaydar."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 03, 2023 04:09 PM (0FoWg)

258 wonder if Smith will ask for Trump to jailed

Posted by: REDACTED at August 03, 2023 04:09 PM (us2H3)

259 257 I like to reference the Atlanta riots.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 03, 2023 04:06 PM (eYoxG)
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Sorry, I don't get the reference.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 03, 2023 04:08 PM (YqDXo)

The left refers to them as protests since they were BLM. I work in Atlanta (sort of, most days I'm remote now) so just talking about the area recovering after the riots or whatever is a good way to feel out a person's attitudes. Lots of stuff got smashed so only a leftwinger would start defending the "protest".

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 03, 2023 04:10 PM (eYoxG)

260 Believe nothing the FBI claims or says it has done.

They plant evidence, frame up innocent people, spy on private citizens, rape, cover up crimes of those in power, lie, perjure themselves at will, kill innocent Americans, rape and help Joe Biden's son out of jams 24/7.

Believe nothing.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy

That's my default position, even with this story. It's probably bullshit too.
Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at August 03, 2023 03:47 PM (kjOVp)

That's where I'm at. I don't believe this story. It's propaganda all the way down.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at August 03, 2023 04:10 PM (BdMk6)

261 I'm sure you'll be shocked that not one of the people arrested was Antifa.

Despite every third Antifa arrested having sex crime and pedo charges on their record.

Like I said, they had to purge the list of their own before they could act.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 03, 2023 04:10 PM (ZFZoe)

262 Yeah, exactly. If I don't answer with the correct shibboleths, they know I'm not one of them. And a lot of it is very subtle.

Not much I can do about it.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 03, 2023 04:07 PM (mj0Qp)
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I'm a bit surprised that they are subtle. Here in Cali, ardent liberals shout their beliefs from the rooftops in any public gathering, presuming that everyone else will agree with them. It's incredibly exasperating.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 03, 2023 04:10 PM (YqDXo)

263 Come on, AlaBAMA, you can't possibly hate these people more than you already do.

*reads Ace's post*

*seethes*

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 03, 2023 04:10 PM (mE7cY)

264 Bet if DJT's case ever got to the Supreme Court he still would get at least 3 if not 4 votes to conviction

Posted by: Skip at August 03, 2023 04:11 PM (MOY79)

265 Imply that it actually happens or that it's a major industry or, even worse, that there is often tacit state approval of it (our state or someone else's), however, and they close ranks.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 03, 2023 04:00 PM (t0OGg)

They have to, don't they? Go after the Hollywood types, or the bankers, and the entire Rat machine would collapse into sludge. At which point it would be open season on the agenda of the NPC left.

By contrast, you could drag every Republican on Capitol Hill to the shooting ditch, and I would just be pleased that the real work gets to start.

Posted by: trev006 at August 03, 2023 04:11 PM (WVerd)

266

Human trafficking is slavery

Posted by: Kindltot at August 03, 2023 04:11 PM (xhaym)

267 Save your breath. Pointing out this obvious fact will never penetrate their intellectual carapace.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 03, 2023 03:56 PM (YqDXo)
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Depends on context. Arguing with a true believer one-on-one is pointless because you will never convert a true believer.

Arguing with a true believer when there is an audience of non-true-believers, though, can be helpful. If there are rational people watching and listening to you calmly and cogently punch gaping holes into the true believer's position, you might get one of *them* to wake up or at least to actually think about the position for once.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 03, 2023 04:11 PM (t0OGg)

268 I'm sure you'll be shocked that not one of the people arrested was Antifa.

Despite every third Antifa arrested having sex crime and pedo charges on their record.

Like I said, they had to purge the list of their own before they could act.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 03, 2023 04:10 PM (ZFZoe)
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I can see Garland going over the list with a blue pencil, drawing lines through every member of antifa or Congress.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 03, 2023 04:11 PM (YqDXo)

269 269 Bet if DJT's case ever got to the Supreme Court he still would get at least 3 if not 4 votes to conviction
Posted by: Skip at August 03, 2023 04:11 PM (MOY79)

I agree

Posted by: It's me donna at August 03, 2023 04:11 PM (bs+z0)

270 Even when they knew what they were saying was wrong, and actually somewhat repulsive to them personally, they would still stick with the party line.

Back when I talked politics with leftists I found the argument always went something like this;

First: I believe in [leftist principle] because of A which is a FACT

Then: Ok, ok, so maybe A isn't like, entirely a fact...but I actually believe in [leftist principle] because of B which is a FACT

A little later: Ok, ok, so maybe B isn't like, entirely a fact...but I actually believe in [leftist principle] because of A which is a FACT

And they'd do this for as long as you wanted.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 03, 2023 04:12 PM (lc5cP)

271 269 Bet if DJT's case ever got to the Supreme Court he still would get at least 3 if not 4 votes to conviction
Posted by: Skip at August 03, 2023 04:11 PM (MOY79)

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Roberts pretty obviously hates being in the minority on decisions. Though he does hate Trump a lot...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 03, 2023 04:12 PM (LvTSG)

272 Human trafficking is slavery
Posted by: Kindltot at August 03, 2023 04:11 PM (xhaym)

reparations !!

Posted by: lawyer at August 03, 2023 04:12 PM (us2H3)

273 Human trafficking is slavery
Posted by: Kindltot at August 03, 2023 04:11 PM (xhaym)
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Yes, it is.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 03, 2023 04:12 PM (t0OGg)

274 It must be nice growing up in an America where you don't have to think about why we have it so good. To believe that everyday you get up it will be the same old place...in perpetuity. No worries about clean water or electricity. Go to the Mall, there will always be stuff. Go to the store, there will always be food. The biggest concern is the cost of tickets to TayTay concert.
It is sad.
Posted by: Diogenes'

When participating in The Balkan Yugo Breakup what really struck me, trying to figure out Why? aside from Human Nature, was this: to have a society really blow itself up, like, really go nuclear, requires considered, sensible, even-keeled people, the Salt Of The Earth/Middle Class, to believe it can't happen. That is the real trigger. To believe social apocalypse can't happen. that's what causes it, or at least is a foundation of it.

Posted by: LenNeal at August 03, 2023 04:12 PM (/BBNv)

275 I saw a quoted statement by Biden talking about the "Biden DOJ".

I thought that Presidents weren't supposed to "interfere" with the DOJ? (not really, I'm not that stupid)

I thought Jefferson wrote about a Absolute Wall of Separation between the President and the DOJ? (Even though the policing and prosecution are executive functions, and the President is the sole owner of all executive functions).

Posted by: Axeman at August 03, 2023 04:12 PM (krQz2)

276 At least Jack Smith will want no campaigning or interviews

Posted by: Skip at August 03, 2023 04:12 PM (MOY79)

277 I guess I would have had a hard time graduating college these days because no way would I sit silent if a professor decided to propagandize his political or religious views during the class. I have to assume it’s not as widespread as reported by conservative sources because I can’t imagine we don’t have conservative kids today who don’t think the same way as me.

Posted by: polynikes at August 03, 2023 04:13 PM (MNhXM)

278 Remember when Goldman gave a little presser after the Archer testimony and said that Archer claimed Hunter was selling the "illusion of access" to Joe?

He lied. Goldman tried to get Archer to agree that is what was going on.

I know you are shocked the a lying piece of shit lied like a lying piece of shit.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 03, 2023 04:13 PM (ZLI7S)

279 I'll deal with rightists and hard core leftists irl on a personal level but neo-cons and neo-libs I avoid dealing with 100%. Had some family issues over it.

Btw, a hardcore neo-lib is not a leftist. And actual leftists aren't particularly interested in perversion. Perversion is a neo-lib vice.

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 03, 2023 04:13 PM (e04UD)

280 276 269 Bet if DJT's case ever got to the Supreme Court he still would get at least 3 if not 4 votes to conviction
Posted by: Skip at August 03, 2023 04:11 PM (MOY79)

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Roberts pretty obviously hates being in the minority on decisions. Though he does hate Trump a lot...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 03, 2023 04:12 PM (LvTSG)

He's the CHIEF Justice. CHIEF!

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 03, 2023 04:13 PM (eYoxG)

281 Human trafficking is slavery
Posted by: Kindltot at August 03, 2023 04:11 PM (xhaym)
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You just want to destroy Juneteenth!

Posted by: Axeman at August 03, 2023 04:13 PM (krQz2)

282 Arguing with a true believer when there is an audience of non-true-believers, though, can be helpful. If there are rational people watching and listening to you calmly and cogently punch gaping holes into the true believer's position, you might get one of *them* to wake up or at least to actually think about the position for once.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 03, 2023 04:11 PM (t0OGg)
________________

I've done that. Socratic method works really well, and helps to keep the temperature down (which is critical for the success of this method. Otherwise your interlocutor is liable to start screaming you're a racist, fascist, some damn thing, and the teaching moment is lost.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 03, 2023 04:13 PM (YqDXo)

283 274 269 Bet if DJT's case ever got to the Supreme Court he still would get at least 3 if not 4 votes to conviction
Posted by: Skip at August 03, 2023 04:11 PM (MOY79)

I agree
Posted by: It's me donna at August 03, 2023 04:11 PM (bs+z0)

5. Kavanaugh would flip.

Posted by: XTC at August 03, 2023 04:13 PM (UnA8+)

284 I can see Garland going over the list with a blue pencil, drawing lines through every member of antifa or Congress.

When Sen Menendez went off the leftist plantation on the Iran deal the news was suddenly full of stories of him having sex with underage prostitutes in DR. Hell, people even interviewed some of the girls.

Then he got back on the plantation and suddenly, poof, all those stories went away

Posted by: 18-1 at August 03, 2023 04:13 PM (lc5cP)

285 Bet if DJT's case ever got to the Supreme Court he still would get at least 3 if not 4 votes to conviction
Posted by: Skip at August

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Stupid but honest question: do criminal cases ever get to SCOTUS to be ruled on with regards to guilt or innocence? I thought it was always procedural questions like did this violate the fourth amendment etc.

Posted by: TexasDan at August 03, 2023 04:13 PM (X7yt5)

286 Posted by: Thesokorus at August 03, 2023 04:13 PM (e04UD)

Aren’t leftists commies?

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at August 03, 2023 04:14 PM (nscIV)

287 No thank you.

Posted by: polynikes at August 03, 2023 04:02 PM (MNhXM)


I got access to it through a friend of mine in local government

Posted by: kallisto at August 03, 2023 04:14 PM (2njrJ)

288 He lied. Goldman tried to get Archer to agree that is what was going on.

I know you are shocked the a lying piece of shit lied like a lying piece of shit.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 03, 2023 04:13 PM (ZLI7S)
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He's Schiff's protégé...so no.

Posted by: Axeman at August 03, 2023 04:14 PM (krQz2)

289 Remember when Goldman gave a little presser after the Archer testimony and said that Archer claimed Hunter was selling the "illusion of access" to Joe?
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So he was defrauding his "clients?"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 03, 2023 04:14 PM (YqDXo)

290 Stupid but honest question: do criminal cases ever get to SCOTUS to be ruled on with regards to guilt or innocence? I thought it was always procedural questions like did this violate the fourth amendment etc.
Posted by: TexasDan at August 03, 2023 04:13 PM (X7yt5)

That's what i was wondering...

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 03, 2023 04:14 PM (9UlRk)

291 I've done that. Socratic method works really well, and helps to keep the temperature down (which is critical for the success of this method. Otherwise your interlocutor is liable to start screaming you're a racist, fascist, some damn thing, and the teaching moment is lost.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 03, 2023 04:13 PM (YqDXo)
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Absolutely spot-on. Socratic interrogation is a wonderful thing to know how to do.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 03, 2023 04:14 PM (t0OGg)

292 Roberts will want Trump back as President

His picks take a lot of heat off him

If another lib got onto the court, he would have to

OMG

make a real decision

Posted by: lawyer at August 03, 2023 04:14 PM (us2H3)

293 Roberts pretty obviously hates being in the minority on decisions. Though he does hate Trump a lot...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 03, 2023 04:12 PM (LvTSG)

Roberts pursues his agenda by selling his vote for the right to heavily modify the reasoning and scope.

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 03, 2023 04:15 PM (e04UD)

294 I've done that. Socratic method works really well, and helps to keep the temperature down
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Yes. The Socratic method is best for this.

I was late to figuring this out. I thought it was too condescending for adults. It's for children. But it's necessary.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 03, 2023 04:15 PM (0FoWg)

295 I can't think of any SCOTUS cases that are criminal, "The People vs. Blahdeeblah"

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 03, 2023 04:15 PM (9UlRk)

296 Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 03, 2023 04:13 PM (YqDXo)

By far the best method

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at August 03, 2023 04:15 PM (nscIV)

297 >>Stupid but honest question: do criminal cases ever get to SCOTUS to be ruled on with regards to guilt or innocence? I thought it was always procedural questions like did this violate the fourth amendment etc.

Correct.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 03, 2023 04:15 PM (ZLI7S)

298 >Roberts pretty obviously hates being in the minority on decisions. Though he does hate Trump a lot...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison


Roberts has also said that he doesn't want the Supreme Court to hear acutely sensitive or potentially explosive cases- he doesn't want a Court that changes history in any way

Posted by: DB - at August 03, 2023 04:15 PM (geLO8)

299 Yahoo Business had an article, Top 20 Human Trafficking Cities in the US, by Ghazal Ahmed, June 14, 2023.

It's not easy to get through but does contain statistics on the economics of human trafficking, most common places, cities, banking controls, and so on.

Worth reading imo.

Posted by: L - Practice makes perfect. They know their enemy at August 03, 2023 04:16 PM (GshMh)

300 Someone give an example of the Socratic method, pour fay voor

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 03, 2023 04:16 PM (mE7cY)

301 Aren’t leftists commies?

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at August 03, 2023 04:14 PM (nscIV)
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Depends on how high up you go.

At the top, they don't believe in equality, and want to manage the masses. They want to eat steak while you eat bugs.

Although that's the standard implementation of "socialism", communism implies equality.

Posted by: Axeman at August 03, 2023 04:16 PM (krQz2)

302 No thank you.

Posted by: polynikes at August 03, 2023 04:02 PM (MNhXM)

I got access to it through a friend of mine in local government
Posted by: kallisto at August 03, 2023 04:14 PM (2njrJ)

If I had kids I would bite the bullet to get the info.

Posted by: polynikes at August 03, 2023 04:16 PM (MNhXM)

303 Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 03, 2023 04:15 PM (0FoWg)

I disagree. I don’t think it’s condescending to adults. Sometimes people really haven’t thought through a particular subject, they just believe whatever has been handed down to them via media or what their parents believed.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at August 03, 2023 04:16 PM (nscIV)

304 I tried to look up the offenders list on the Meagan’s Law List and they wanted everything but my bank password to set up an account to get the info.

No thank you.


I found my information from my county's published sex offenders list. I'm with you - no way I'd supply that info. That list should be universally available, no strings attached.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 03, 2023 04:17 PM (Xrfse)

305
Btw, a hardcore neo-lib is not a leftist. And actual leftists aren't particularly interested in perversion. Perversion is a neo-lib vice.
Posted by: Thesokorus at August 03, 2023 04:13 PM (e04UD)

Neoliberalism mostly postdates a lot of the left's sex stuff. Weird sexual deviant stuff has been part of left-wing movements for a long time.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 03, 2023 04:17 PM (eYoxG)

306 Speaking of human trafficking, DU is having a sadz over: Gov. Kim Reynolds deployed more than 100 Iowa National Guard soldiers to Texas on Wednesday to assist at the U.S.-Mexico border for the next month. And she says she'll use the Biden Administration's COVID-19 relief funds to pay for it.

Are they assigned to drowning duty or impaling Mexicans on barbed wire?

Ironically, if it weren't for immigrants, most of the meat packing plants in IA would be closed. The USA is a wealthy nation is because of the constant in-flow of immigrants. It's easy to demonize them, so it becomes one of the ways right-wing leaders feed the hate machine that keeps them in office.

Kim Jong Reynolds doesn’t care what others need. Piss money away needlessly. Ignore the need in Iowa. She knows about illegals because that’s how she spends federal money…….illegally.

You can misuse govt funds in IA. It's fine. Our idiotic Republican legislature hamstrung our Democrat state auditor.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at August 03, 2023 04:17 PM (JCZqz)

307 Supposedly and in theory, SCOTUS is the country's highest appellate court

Posted by: DB - at August 03, 2023 04:17 PM (geLO8)

308 Bet if DJT's case ever got to the Supreme Court he still would get at least 3 if not 4 votes to conviction
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They won't touch it.
As someone noted this morning, the open calls for violence if they don't uphold it, the actual moves to pack the Court if they don't, will make all the intimidation before seem like friendly jawboning.
There will be bombings and assassination attempts if they even take it up, let alone hear it.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 03, 2023 04:17 PM (ZFZoe)

309 I was late to figuring this out. I thought it was too condescending for adults. It's for children. But it's necessary.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 03, 2023 04:15 PM (0FoWg)

Oh man, do i feel silly now.

I thought the Socratic method involved hemlock.

Here i was thinking i had "won" all those arguments.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 03, 2023 04:17 PM (9UlRk)

310 I guess I would have had a hard time graduating college these days because no way would I sit silent if a professor decided to propagandize his political or religious views during the class. I have to assume it’s not as widespread as reported by conservative sources because I can’t imagine we don’t have conservative kids today who don’t think the same way as me.
Posted by: polynikes at August 03, 2023 04:13 PM (MNhXM)
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That's the joy of being a STEM major. That kind of crap doesn't (or at least, shouldn't) come up.

I lectured for years, and never gave any indication that I'm slightly to the right of Genghis Khan.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 03, 2023 04:17 PM (YqDXo)

311 298 Roberts pursues his agenda by selling his vote for the right to heavily modify the reasoning and scope.
Posted by: Thesokorus at August 03, 2023 04:15 PM (e04UD)

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Except on things like Dobbs where all he has to sell is pigshit. Rotten pigshit.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 03, 2023 04:18 PM (LvTSG)

312 I'm a bit surprised that they are subtle. Here in Cali, ardent liberals shout their beliefs from the rooftops in any public gathering, presuming that everyone else will agree with them. It's incredibly exasperating.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 03, 2023 04:10 PM (YqDXo)

Oh, they do that too.

I mean when they're feeling someone out.

For example, I went out with a girl I'm seeing and several of her friends and their spouses. This one guy was sitting across from me and said he was from Texas, had two moms, and now worked for a make up company. But he's dating a chick.

I said "oh, right on" or something. It was kind of weird that he's dumping his whole life story on me, but whatever.

Later that night, my girl said "I don't think he liked you" and I said "why?" and she said because I was supposed to say something along the lines of "that must have been really hard growing up in texas with lesbian moms, you must be so glad to live here now."

...And it would never occur to me to say that. But apparently that was some kind of a shit test, and I failed.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 03, 2023 04:18 PM (mj0Qp)

313 Aren’t leftists commies?
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at August 03, 2023 04:14 PM (nscIV)

Some are.

Commies hate neo-libs and neo-cons and so do I. Lots to talk about.

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 03, 2023 04:18 PM (e04UD)

314 Here i was thinking i had "won" all those arguments.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 03, 2023 04:17 PM (9UlRk)

LOL.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 03, 2023 04:18 PM (0FoWg)

315 >>> 299 I've done that. Socratic method works really well, and helps to keep the temperature down
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Yes. The Socratic method is best for this.

I was late to figuring this out. I thought it was too condescending for adults. It's for children. But it's necessary.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 03, 2023 04:15 PM (0FoWg)

Are you defining 'adult' by age or something else?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 03, 2023 04:18 PM (llON8)

316 303 Roberts has also said that he doesn't want the Supreme Court to hear acutely sensitive or potentially explosive cases- he doesn't want a Court that changes history in any way
Posted by: DB - at August 03, 2023 04:15 PM (geLO

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Which, of course, leads to the court agreeing with every power grab and changing the course of history in very large ways.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 03, 2023 04:18 PM (LvTSG)

317 And I am invested in this thing, in chaotic warfare children are bought and sold, it's a thing. It's common. What really cracked me Back When was having a desperate refugee woman present a girl to me, probably 6 or so, not her daughter or relative, just just some orphan that had attached herself to this lady. Anyway, the lady tried to sell me this girl for 40 DM.
I was horrified and the worst thing? I should have bought that kid. My value system failed me.
I did not purchase a child because my Protestant Value System said slavery was Wrong. I regret that decision every day. Every time I look at my daughter's face I see that child I did not buy.
It's why I do not 'do' Western' Christianity. Or Judaism. Those value systems failed me in my time of need.
It's the exact reason I am Eastern Orthodox Christian.

Posted by: LenNeal at August 03, 2023 04:18 PM (/BBNv)

318 Someone give an example of the Socratic method, pour fay voor
Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 03, 2023 04:16 PM (mE7cY)

Who wants to know?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 03, 2023 04:18 PM (9UlRk)

319 Someone give an example of the Socratic method, pour fay voor
Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 03, 2023 04:16 PM (mE7cY)
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Any of Plato's dialogs.

Posted by: Axeman at August 03, 2023 04:19 PM (krQz2)

320 Someone give an example of the Socratic method, pour fay voor
........

I think it's when you kick a goal while the vuvuzelas are playing.

Posted by: wth at August 03, 2023 04:19 PM (v0R5T)

321 *me as a juror*

"Well, child molesters all get run through a chipper, that's easy..."

"Wait, all they have on them is the testimony of the FBI?"....

....

...

Posted by: Hawkpilot at August 03, 2023 04:19 PM (J1sWR)

322 324 Someone give an example of the Socratic method, pour fay voor
Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 03, 2023 04:16 PM (mE7cY)

Who wants to know?
Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 03, 2023 04:18 PM (9UlRk)

Just your standard, Okra hating, someone literate redneck.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 03, 2023 04:19 PM (mE7cY)

323 Someone give an example of the Socratic method, pour fay voor
Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 03, 2023 04:16 PM (mE7cY)

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I regret that I know nothing and you must be my teacher in this matter.

Posted by: Axeman at August 03, 2023 04:19 PM (krQz2)

324 Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 03, 2023 04:18 PM (mj0Qp)

You dodged a bullet.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at August 03, 2023 04:19 PM (nscIV)

325 308 Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 03, 2023 04:15 PM (0FoWg)

I disagree. I don’t think it’s condescending to adults. Sometimes people really haven’t thought through a particular subject, they just believe whatever has been handed down to them via media or what their parents believed.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at August 03, 2023 04:16 PM (nscIV)

Agree. Like when someone just blurts that a certain law may be racist, asking what in particular is racist will generally tie them in knots.

Plus, most people aren't accustomed to addressing direct questions.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 03, 2023 04:20 PM (KbCG3)

326 Weird sexual deviant stuff has been part of left-wing movements for a long time.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 03, 2023 04:17 PM (eYoxG)
_______________

Starting with Foucault, I believe.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 03, 2023 04:20 PM (YqDXo)

327 313 They won't touch it.
As someone noted this morning, the open calls for violence if they don't uphold it, the actual moves to pack the Court if they don't, will make all the intimidation before seem like friendly jawboning.
There will be bombings and assassination attempts if they even take it up, let alone hear it.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 03, 2023 04:17 PM (ZFZoe)

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An assassin was caught a few blocks from Kavanaugh's house over Dobbs. They still did it.

SCOTUS is all tea-leaf reading until decisions come out, but that has to be taken into account.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 03, 2023 04:20 PM (LvTSG)

328 So this has something to do with shadows on a wall?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 03, 2023 04:20 PM (mE7cY)

329 305 Someone give an example of the Socratic method, pour fay voor

What do you think it is? Why?

Posted by: goddessoftheclassroom at August 03, 2023 04:20 PM (goJt/)

330 >Someone give an example of the Socratic method, pour fay voor


why do you ask?
done

Posted by: DB - at August 03, 2023 04:20 PM (geLO8)

331 ...And it would never occur to me to say that. But apparently that was some kind of a shit test, and I failed.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at

...

OTOH you avoided an entire evening of boring stories about how bad Texans treated his poor lesbian moms.

Posted by: TexasDan at August 03, 2023 04:21 PM (X7yt5)

332 I used to assume that if you're grown, you've thought through a position and can expound without being prompted by questions.

I realized at some point that this was not a good assumption.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 03, 2023 04:21 PM (0FoWg)

333 He lied. Goldman tried to get Archer to agree that is what was going on.

I know you are shocked the a lying piece of shit lied like a lying piece of shit.


Goldman is just so bad at this stuff. I'm really surprised they haven't magically invented some reason to put anyone else in his place.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 03, 2023 04:21 PM (ZGrMX)

334 Someone give an example of the Socratic method, pour fay voor
Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 03, 2023 04:16 PM (mE7cY)
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A way of imparting information through questioning. Rather than stating a fact (or *the* fact), you ask a question likely to lead the subject to answer correctly if he stops and thinks about what you're asking in the context of the discussion. It encourages critical thinking and uses argument as an instruction tool. It draws out ideas and presuppositions as opposed to a simple declaration of facts that might not break through.

It's not a good method for learning or teaching things that must be learned by rote (e.g., "5x5 == 25"), but it is excellent for more complex topics. You eliminate wrong ideas one after another through calm argumentation, leading the subject to the correct answer (or even finding it yourself). I was first introduced to it as an instruction style in high school.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 03, 2023 04:21 PM (t0OGg)

335 All we are is dust in the wind, dude.

Dust.

Wind.

Dude.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 03, 2023 04:21 PM (LvTSG)

336 305 Someone give an example of the Socratic method, pour fay voor
Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 03, 2023 04:16 PM (mE7cY)

"Alabama, what do you think the correct way to handle homeless is?"
[your answer]
"Interesting. I think that could work. But what do we do about the fact that most of these people are severely mentally ill, have PTSD, severe trauma, and usually are addicted to drugs or alcohol?"


etc. etc. Basically you ask leading questions to get them to the "right" answer.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 03, 2023 04:21 PM (mj0Qp)

337 Ok. I gets it.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 03, 2023 04:21 PM (mE7cY)

338 Finally someone talking sense how to debate with liberals....

The Socratic Method; give them poison to drink!

Posted by: JROD at August 03, 2023 04:21 PM (IlL6s)

339 no one thought they would completely vacate RvW

I would be a little cautious in predicting what the SCOTUS might do

they are pretty pissed of at the dims atm for all their "ethical" meddling

Posted by: REDACTED at August 03, 2023 04:21 PM (us2H3)

340 the first amendment only protects responsible speech (liberal motto)

Posted by: gnats local 678 at August 03, 2023 04:21 PM (B1FKF)

341 >>> 322 303 Roberts has also said that he doesn't want the Supreme Court to hear acutely sensitive or potentially explosive cases- he doesn't want a Court that changes history in any way
Posted by: DB - at August 03, 2023 04:15 PM (geLO

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Which, of course, leads to the court agreeing with every power grab and changing the course of history in very large ways.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 03, 2023 04:18 PM (LvTSG)

If you choose not to decide you still have made a choice.

You dumbass, Roberts.

Posted by: Geddy Lee at August 03, 2023 04:21 PM (llON8)

342 I disagree. I don’t think it’s condescending to adults. Sometimes people really haven’t thought through a particular subject, they just believe whatever has been handed down to them via media or what their parents believed.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at August 03, 2023 04:16 PM (nscIV)
____________

I agree with you. It's also a way 1) to solicit information on the other person's way of thinking, and 2) to induce him to think about his position from first principles, all without generating any heat.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 03, 2023 04:21 PM (YqDXo)

343 Thank you!

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 03, 2023 04:21 PM (mE7cY)

344 Those poor kids are going to damaged in many ways, large and small. If any of them turn out remotely normal, it will be miraculous.
Posted by: gourmand du jour

It is murder of a kind. Murder of innocence, murder of ever feeling safe, and the robbery of their childhood.

Posted by: Cheri at August 03, 2023 04:22 PM (oiNtH)

345 Fcku the FBI and fcku that big beautiful Palace and Torture Chamber the backstabbing GOP promised them

Posted by: Ex GOP at August 03, 2023 04:22 PM (4sJ6b)

346 346 no one thought they would completely vacate RvW

I would be a little cautious in predicting what the SCOTUS might do

they are pretty pissed of at the dims atm for all their "ethical" meddling
Posted by: REDACTED at August 03, 2023 04:21 PM (us2H3)

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They still won't touch important election cases, but the confirmation that Chevron is dead could be really fun while it lasts.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 03, 2023 04:22 PM (LvTSG)

347 Neoliberalism mostly postdates a lot of the left's sex stuff. Weird sexual deviant stuff has been part of left-wing movements for a long time.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 03, 2023 04:17 PM (eYoxG)

No. This is wrong. The deviant stuff is a sign that the US infiltrated the org.

The German Greens were a CIA op from inception for example.

Now there was some pushing of socially destructive behavior in the US by USSR but the USSR was not sexually degenerate in the way the US was. And Cuba wasn't and East Ger wasn't.

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 03, 2023 04:23 PM (e04UD)

348 Plus, most people aren't accustomed to addressing direct questions.

...

Because direct questions are racist white man patriarchy stuff.

Posted by: TexasDan at August 03, 2023 04:23 PM (X7yt5)

349 323 And I am invested in this thing, in chaotic warfare children are bought and sold, it's a thing. It's common. What really cracked me Back When was having a desperate refugee woman present a girl to me, probably 6 or so, not her daughter or relative, just just some orphan that had attached herself to this lady. Anyway, the lady tried to sell me this girl for 40 DM.
I was horrified and the worst thing? I should have bought that kid. My value system failed me.
I did not purchase a child because my Protestant Value System said slavery was Wrong. I regret that decision every day. Every time I look at my daughter's face I see that child I did not buy.
It's why I do not 'do' Western' Christianity. Or Judaism. Those value systems failed me in my time of need.
It's the exact reason I am Eastern Orthodox Christian.
Posted by: LenNeal at August 03, 2023 04:18 PM (/BBNv)

Historically it was pretty common for abolitionists to buy people's freedom. Gotta avoid subsidizing rings that kidnap children and sell them to naive westerners though.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 03, 2023 04:23 PM (eYoxG)

350 meatball says we are going to start slitting throats on day

Posted by: REDACTED at August 03, 2023 04:24 PM (us2H3)

351 Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 03, 2023 04:18 PM (mj0Qp)

He really would have hated me because I would have asked him if he knew his dad?

Posted by: polynikes at August 03, 2023 04:24 PM (MNhXM)

352 Weird sexual deviant stuff has been part of left-wing movements for a long time.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 03, 2023 04:17 PM (eYoxG)
_______________

Starting with Foucault, I believe.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 03, 2023 04:20 PM (YqDXo)
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de Sade.
French philosopher
.

Posted by: Axeman at August 03, 2023 04:24 PM (krQz2)

353 Posted by: Thesokorus at August 03, 2023 04:13 PM (e04UD)
Aren’t leftists commies?
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One'

Not necessarily, probably the thing I despise USA suit-and-tie Republicans for, more than anything, is the attitude that any co-operative effort is COMMUNISM. It is not. Community involvement isn't Bolshevism. Paul Ryan is a complete piece of shit, and yet he's a Republican. The instant people realize that a common effort isn't Bolshevism the whole thing falls apart. It's a balance. Any physical society requires some part of your work to go to the common good. It's that simple.

Posted by: LenNeal at August 03, 2023 04:24 PM (/BBNv)

354 Starting with Foucault, I believe.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 03, 2023 04:20 PM (YqDXo

Foucault was a neo-lib.

The commies would have murked that dude if he tried it on their turf.

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 03, 2023 04:25 PM (e04UD)

355 Was Ashley Biden among the rescued?

Posted by: LASue at August 03, 2023 04:25 PM (Ed8Zd)

356 meatball says we are going to start slitting throats on day
Posted by: REDACTED at August 03, 2023 04:24 PM (us2H3)

Dummy.

Everyone knows, it's spit, hoist, *then* slit.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 03, 2023 04:25 PM (9UlRk)

357 I do love the "hey I have a couple questions but drink this first" idea.

Posted by: TexasDan at August 03, 2023 04:25 PM (X7yt5)

358 They still won't touch important election cases, but the confirmation that Chevron is dead could be really fun while it lasts.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 03, 2023 04:22 PM (LvTSG)

wut ??

Posted by: Al Gore at August 03, 2023 04:25 PM (us2H3)

359 "Alabama, what do you think the correct way to handle homeless is?"
[your answer]
"Interesting. I think that could work. But what do we do about the fact that most of these people are severely mentally ill, have PTSD, severe trauma, and usually are addicted to drugs or alcohol?"
____________

"What do you mean by 'homeless'?"

"So ... if we provided homes for all of the homeless, would that solve the 'homelessness' problem?"

"Why do you think they became 'homeless' in the first place?"

Etc. Each of these things said without sarcasm.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 03, 2023 04:25 PM (YqDXo)

360 . It's a balance. Any physical society requires some part of your work to go to the common good. It's that simple.
Posted by: LenNeal at August 03, 2023 04:24 PM (/BBNv)

Amen

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 03, 2023 04:25 PM (e04UD)

361 Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 03, 2023 04:21 PM (YqDXo)

Exactly. The real telling moment is when you’ve go them to come to the conclusion that they’re wrong and their position sucks. If you’re dealing with an adult they’ll either admit it, laugh and admit or something to that nature. If you’re not you may get a “fuck you” which has happened to me.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at August 03, 2023 04:25 PM (nscIV)

362 I would be a little cautious in predicting what the SCOTUS might do

they are pretty pissed of at the dims atm for all their "ethical" meddling
Posted by: REDACTED at August 03, 2023 04:21 PM (us2H3)
.........

I bet they're pretty pissed at the appointment of Jumanji, too.

Posted by: wth at August 03, 2023 04:26 PM (v0R5T)

363 ...Jack Smith and his merry band of buttboys (I would expect that to include Garland) himself should be indicted and prosecuted for conspiring to deny Donald Trump of his constitutional civil rights.

By whom?

Posted by: Oddbob at August 03, 2023 04:26 PM (nfrXX)

364 Those poor kids are going to damaged in many ways, large and small. If any of them turn out remotely normal, it will be miraculous.
Posted by: gourmand du jour

It is murder of a kind. Murder of innocence, murder of ever feeling safe, and the robbery of their childhood.
Posted by: Cheri at August 03, 2023 04:22 PM (oiNtH)

Which is why the evil one and his minions in the entertainment world keep doing it.

Posted by: LASue at August 03, 2023 04:26 PM (Ed8Zd)

365 365 They still won't touch important election cases, but the confirmation that Chevron is dead could be really fun while it lasts.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 03, 2023 04:22 PM (LvTSG)

wut ??
Posted by: Al Gore at August 03, 2023 04:25 PM (us2H3)

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Wrong Chevron. Not the one that pulls fuel from the ground but the one that gives the administrative state clearance to write laws that have no connection to written statue passed by Congress and signed by a president.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 03, 2023 04:26 PM (LvTSG)

366 Alabama, what do you think the correct way to handle homeless is?"

Correct reply to the trap

What homeless?

Posted by: polynikes at August 03, 2023 04:26 PM (MNhXM)

367 363 meatball says we are going to start slitting throats on day
Posted by: REDACTED at August 03, 2023 04:24 PM (us2H3)

meatball should realize that no one cares what he says

now if Trump said the same thing

OMFG

Posted by: Al Gore at August 03, 2023 04:26 PM (us2H3)

368 Falling asleep

Posted by: Skip at August 03, 2023 04:27 PM (MOY79)

369 I don't like my method so cratic. I just like it a little cratic.

Posted by: Axeman at August 03, 2023 04:27 PM (krQz2)

370 Posted by: LenNeal at August 03, 2023 04:24 PM (/BBNv)

Populism no?

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at August 03, 2023 04:27 PM (nscIV)

371 Finally someone talking sense how to debate with liberals....

The Socratic Method; give them poison to drink!
Posted by: JROD at August 03, 2023 04:21 PM (IlL6s)


Go long on hemlock futures.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 03, 2023 04:27 PM (e4fEA)

372 354 Neoliberalism mostly postdates a lot of the left's sex stuff. Weird sexual deviant stuff has been part of left-wing movements for a long time.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 03, 2023 04:17 PM (eYoxG)

No. This is wrong. The deviant stuff is a sign that the US infiltrated the org.

The German Greens were a CIA op from inception for example.

Now there was some pushing of socially destructive behavior in the US by USSR but the USSR was not sexually degenerate in the way the US was. And Cuba wasn't and East Ger wasn't.
Posted by: Thesokorus at August 03, 2023 04:23 PM (e04UD)

The Mensheviks were deviant. Mao was a deviant. The sexual deviancy is present at the revolutions of most of the left. The Bolsheviks wiped out the Mensheviks, that's why the USSR wasn't deviant.

But the US wasn't why the Mensheviks were deviant. Usually the leftist revolution has multiple "types" involved so to speak. The victory of one doesn't make the others inauthentically left.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 03, 2023 04:27 PM (eYoxG)

373 Gotta avoid subsidizing rings that kidnap children and sell them to naive westerners though.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 03, 2023 04:23

....

Somebody tell all the evangelicals trying to adopt children from overseas that they are fueling this exact thing.

Posted by: TexasDan at August 03, 2023 04:27 PM (X7yt5)

374 OTOH you avoided an entire evening of boring stories about how bad Texans treated his poor lesbian moms.
Posted by: TexasDan at August 03, 2023 04:21 PM (X7yt5)

True. The dude was, as you can imagine, very strange.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 03, 2023 04:27 PM (mj0Qp)

375 Aren’t leftists commies?
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One'
________________

Pretty much, IMO. There are Communists, and Communist Lites, many of the latter not realizing that they're essentially adopting communist viewpoints.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 03, 2023 04:27 PM (YqDXo)

376 "...suddenly the FBI decides they should make a big show of doing their actual jobs instead of their preferred self-assigned job of acting as the Mob Enforcers for the Democrat Crime Mob."


Exactly. If you're an FBI Agent, if you play your cards right and kiss enough @ss, you can get an assignment to persecute and frame DeepState enemies and politicians you don't like, in an air conditioned office in DC or NYC, at no risk of being shot or otherwise harmed by the people you're after. If you are not stationed in DC or NYC, but are an extremely good @ss kisser and have friends in FBI HQ, you can get detailed to DC or NYC to help persecute the DeepState's enemies, for an extended period of time. Drawing generous DC or NYC Area TDY lodging, meals, and incidentals pay for every day you are there!

Posted by: Gref at August 03, 2023 04:28 PM (AMIL/)

377 Exactly. The real telling moment is when you’ve go them to come to the conclusion that they’re wrong and their position sucks. If you’re dealing with an adult they’ll either admit it, laugh and admit or something to that nature. If you’re not you may get a “fuck you” which has happened to me.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at August 03, 2023 04:25 PM (nscIV

When I have them dead to rights they usually end it with their go to…. Yeah maybe , but still…

Posted by: polynikes at August 03, 2023 04:28 PM (MNhXM)

378 The Socratic Method is great, but remember that Socrates was sentenced to death for basically being a colossal dick.

Moderation is key.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at August 03, 2023 04:28 PM (l8gTz)

379 Ppl who think DeSade was a Leftist just don't understand what a category is.

What do you think Lenin or Stalin would have done to a DeSade?

Or a Castro?

Or Lukashenko?

Or Tito?

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 03, 2023 04:28 PM (e04UD)

380 For example, I went out with a girl I'm seeing and several of her friends and their spouses. This one guy was sitting across from me and said he was from Texas, had two moms, and now worked for a make up company. But he's dating a chick.

I said "oh, right on" or something. It was kind of weird that he's dumping his whole life story on me, but whatever.

Later that night, my girl said "I don't think he liked you" and I said "why?" and she said because I was supposed to say something along the lines of "that must have been really hard growing up in texas with lesbian moms, you must be so glad to live here now."

...And it would never occur to me to say that. But apparently that was some kind of a shit test, and I failed.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 03, 2023 04:18 PM (mj0Qp)

After all was said and done, did she let you fuck her? If so, you won.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at August 03, 2023 04:29 PM (BdMk6)

381 i got a first

new thread on cnn reporters cars getting broken into

Posted by: gnats local 678 at August 03, 2023 04:29 PM (B1FKF)

382 >>The Socratic Method; give them poison to drink!

The Vizzini Method.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 03, 2023 04:29 PM (ZLI7S)

383 The German Greens were a CIA op from inception for example.

[ . . . ]
Posted by: Thesokorus at August 03, 2023 04:23 PM (e04UD)


That is an odd thing to say, people I know from back in the day in Germany had all the Greenie funded by the USSR, as was Greenpeace.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 03, 2023 04:29 PM (xhaym)

384 they assume I'm a racist Trump voter.


The more I hear about most peoples politics the less I like them.
The more they hear about mine the closer they edge to the rabies injector.

Posted by: DaveA at August 03, 2023 04:29 PM (FhXTo)

385 Flashing the Scogg Signal as hard as we can, here....

It just happens to look like a big ass silhouette of a middle finger projected on the cloud cover....

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 03, 2023 04:29 PM (9UlRk)

386
But the US wasn't why the Mensheviks were deviant. Usually the leftist revolution has multiple "types" involved so to speak. The victory of one doesn't make the others inauthentically left


Hitler's closest ally in his rise to power was the openly gay and pedo head of the SA.

Until of course it was in Hitler's interest to remove Rohm. From the realm living.

Hitler in his turn seemed to have a Hunter type vibe with his cousin...

Posted by: 18-1 at August 03, 2023 04:30 PM (lc5cP)

387 NOOD CNN

Posted by: Prime Sister at August 03, 2023 04:30 PM (tQL7r)

388 'Leftism' is a misnomer and it's been weaponized to demonize anything co-operative.
The ultimate foundation of 'Leftism' is a philosophical/theological denial of the existence of the individual.
It's Energy Worship, and it goes unnoticed as far too many Christians or whatever think Paganism is worshiping statues or pictures: in fact True Paganism is worshiping an unnameable and/or unknowable Energy Force.

Posted by: LenNeal at August 03, 2023 04:30 PM (/BBNv)

389 Posted by: polynikes at August 03, 2023 04:28 PM (MNhXM

I forgot about that one the “yeah but still”

Which translates to “I wanna punch you for making me come to this”

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at August 03, 2023 04:30 PM (nscIV)

390 Harry, Kudos. Most of us would have LOL'd and said to his girlfriend, so are you dating him for the free make up?
Posted by: Or just sing the lumberjack song when the bring the entrees at August 03, 2023 04:25 PM (sh1GZ)

Well, I mean -- I have to play nice.

I got in trouble in another friend group with a girl I used to date for making what I thought was a very funny joke after an entire day of drinking.

Slightly off-color I suppose. But anyways, that quickly turned in to me being labeled "problematic" by the group, that I'm homophobic and probably racist and antisemitic, etc. etc.

It was a mild joke about my cousin, who is gay. Very mild. No one in that group knew my cousin. His being gay was incidental to the story.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 03, 2023 04:31 PM (mj0Qp)

391 387 Ppl who think DeSade was a Leftist just don't understand what a category is.

What do you think Lenin or Stalin would have done to a DeSade?

Or a Castro?

Or Lukashenko?

Or Tito?

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 03, 2023 04:28 PM (e04UD)

Well what happened to the Mensheviks irl? Doesn't mean the Mensheviks weren't leftists. That's rather insisting that only one brand of Marxism is the true Marxism, even though it's a very Tsarist looking brand.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 03, 2023 04:32 PM (eYoxG)

392 And I am invested in this thing, in chaotic warfare children are bought and sold, it's a thing. It's common. What really cracked me Back When was having a desperate refugee woman present a girl to me, probably 6 or so, not her daughter or relative, just just some orphan that had attached herself to this lady. Anyway, the lady tried to sell me this girl for 40 DM.
I was horrified and the worst thing? I should have bought that kid. My value system failed me.
I did not purchase a child because my Protestant Value System said slavery was Wrong. I regret that decision every day. Every time I look at my daughter's face I see that child I did not buy.
It's why I do not 'do' Western' Christianity. Or Judaism. Those value systems failed me in my time of need.
It's the exact reason I am Eastern Orthodox Christian.

Posted by: LenNeal at August 03, 2023 04:18 PM (/BBNv)

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Compelling. You mistakenly sacrificed a higher value for a lower value. German Christians (and others) who hid Jews and lied about it did the opposite.

Posted by: ShainS -- We're Happy Ace's Geriatric Club ... at August 03, 2023 04:32 PM (dr1Vw)

393 Posted by: LenNeal at August 03, 2023 04:30 PM (/BBNv)

Youve convinced me that that is still evil

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at August 03, 2023 04:32 PM (nscIV)

394 Exactly. The real telling moment is when you’ve go them to come to the conclusion that they’re wrong and their position sucks. If you’re dealing with an adult they’ll either admit it, laugh and admit or something to that nature. If you’re not you may get a “fuck you” which has happened to me.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at August 03, 2023 04:25 PM (nscIV)
_______________

Yep. I love the deer in the headlights expression when they realize they've been had.

Debating a liberal chick, who maintained that a woman who killed her husband (in his sleep!) was justified in doing so because she thought he was going to kill her.

"So if her husband for some reason thought that she was going to kill HIM, he'd have been justified in killing her first?"

Deer in headlights mode activated.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 03, 2023 04:32 PM (YqDXo)

395 Alabama, what do you think the correct way to handle homeless is?"
Correct reply to the trap
What homeless?
Posted by: polynikes at August 03, 2023 04:26 PM (MNhXM)

I tell them either the South Vietnamese Police Chief Model or the Sam Kinison Method works best for me.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 03, 2023 04:32 PM (5L/TD)

396 But the US wasn't why the Mensheviks were deviant. Usually the leftist revolution has multiple "types" involved so to speak. The victory of one doesn't make the others inauthentically left.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 03, 2023 04:27 PM (eYoxG)

Look I am a hard rightist Salazar fanboy. But point out one Leftist government that was sexually deviant. They always always purged the deviants. And heterosexual promiscuity is hardly "deviant". Even if dysgenic.

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 03, 2023 04:32 PM (e04UD)

397 What do you think Lenin or Stalin would have done to a DeSade?

Or a Castro?

Or Lukashenko?

Or Tito?

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 03, 2023 04:28 PM (e04UD)
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Hired him to run the secret police.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 03, 2023 04:33 PM (YqDXo)

398 Ppl who think DeSade was a Leftist just don't understand what a category is.

What do you think Lenin or Stalin would have done to a DeSade?

Or a Castro?

Or Lukashenko?

Or Tito?

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 03, 2023 04:28 PM (e04UD)
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de Sade predates Marx by 100 years. Of course, de Sade is not going to fall into the Marxian idea of the left.

The Marxian left is demarcated by all those who want to push to live in Marx's imagination of how the future would progress.

If you don't like Marx's "final age", then you're "right".

But Marx didn't define the "left", which is what we get from the French National Assembly. The Jacobins do.

Posted by: Axeman at August 03, 2023 04:33 PM (krQz2)

399 Well what happened to the Mensheviks irl?
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The Mensheviks (and the Social Revolutionaries) were the first people Lenin whacked.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 03, 2023 04:35 PM (YqDXo)

400 404 But the US wasn't why the Mensheviks were deviant. Usually the leftist revolution has multiple "types" involved so to speak. The victory of one doesn't make the others inauthentically left.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 03, 2023 04:27 PM (eYoxG)

Look I am a hard rightist Salazar fanboy. But point out one Leftist government that was sexually deviant. They always always purged the deviants. And heterosexual promiscuity is hardly "deviant". Even if dysgenic.
Posted by: Thesokorus at August 03, 2023 04:32 PM (e04UD)

The deviants usually bunch with the anarchists(or possibly these are the same group). As a rule the anarchists either lose in the initial struggle with the non-left, or to other rivals because their ideology sucks at maintaining power. But they show up like clockwork in socialist revolutions and are useful for overthrowing governments.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 03, 2023 04:35 PM (eYoxG)

401 385 When I have them dead to rights they usually end it with their go to…. Yeah maybe , but still…
Posted by: polynikes at August 03, 2023 04:28 PM (MNhXM)

The few times I've bothered, they just end it with "I don't care. I want it anyway. Better than than be a [insert insult for Right-Wingers here]".

Posted by: XTC at August 03, 2023 04:35 PM (UnA8+)

402 I'm pretty sure that I remember it that Ulyanov lead the menshevik party (minority party), who stormed the assembly and locked out the actual bolshevik party (majority party) and declared themselves the bolshevik party.

Posted by: Axeman at August 03, 2023 04:37 PM (krQz2)

403 407 But Marx didn't define the "left", which is what we get from the French National Assembly. The Jacobins do.
Posted by: Axeman at August 03, 2023 04:33 PM (krQz2)

It's funny how all the wannabe Revolutionaries always forget that even Robespierre felt the cold embrace of the National Razor upon his neck.

Posted by: XTC at August 03, 2023 04:38 PM (UnA8+)

404 But Marx didn't define the "left", which is what we get from the French National Assembly. The Jacobins do.
Posted by: Axeman at August 03, 2023 04:33 PM (krQz2)

The Jacobins were the ancestors of the neo-libs.

But ok. All right. In my original post I will retract Leftist and substitute Marxist.

But then Leftist is not the proper term for US neo-globohomo-libs either.

At least if both neo-libs and Marxists are Leftists.

But if you want to remove Marxists fro Leftists, fine by me.

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 03, 2023 04:39 PM (e04UD)

405 "The FBI teamed with state and local agencies to identify or arrest 126 suspects of child sexual exploitation and human trafficking and 68 suspected traffickers."

AH. That's who really did the work.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 03, 2023 03:59 PM (KUmG1)

====================

Yeah, but every local police department has a guy on the CIA/FBI payroll at this point, so careful how much you trust the local LEO's with information.

Posted by: Oschisms at August 03, 2023 04:39 PM (0A5+1)

406 The deviants usually bunch with the anarchists(or possibly these are the same group). As a rule the anarchists either lose in the initial struggle with the non-left, or to other rivals because their ideology sucks at maintaining power. But they show up like clockwork in socialist revolutions and are useful for overthrowing governments.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 03, 2023 04:35 PM (eYoxG)

Yes. And Marxists know this very well. And other communists or as I would say hard-leftists who favor a materialist view of history.

Any leftist not a materialist is a neo-lib to me. Hence bizarre sexual perversions due to idealism.

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 03, 2023 04:41 PM (e04UD)

407 At least if both neo-libs and Marxists are Leftists.

But if you want to remove Marxists fro Leftists, fine by me.
Posted by: Thesokorus at August 03, 2023 04:39 PM (e04UD)

So you are in fact arguing a true school of Marxism. I'd argue the anarchists and deviants represent his beliefs in destruction, deconstruction, and revolution to their logical extreme. Russian Marxism(and hence the American CPUSA and Russian aligned communists) is heavily based on Stalin and Lenin's thinking.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 03, 2023 04:42 PM (eYoxG)

408 So you are in fact arguing a true school of Marxism. I'd argue the anarchists and deviants represent his beliefs in destruction, deconstruction, and revolution to their logical extreme. Russian Marxism(and hence the American CPUSA and Russian aligned communists) is heavily based on Stalin and Lenin's thinking.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 03, 2023 04:42 PM (eYoxG)

I don't follow in re "true school".

Marx and someone like Bakunin were not very much alike except for an eschatological tendency.

Neither were the Spanish Anarchists and Spanish Commies.

Anarchists always lose because they are such broken deviants.

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 03, 2023 04:45 PM (QsVAy)

409 Just for the record, I think the Jacobins are a good name for the US neo-libs or the opponents of the Right.

Much much better than Leftist.

As almost everyone who has been taught about leftism in the US thinks it refers to Marxists.

Jacobins were not materialists. And Marxists are. Materialism being used in its philosophical meaning not just worldly.

And globohomo is anti-materialist. Or idealist.

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 03, 2023 04:50 PM (QsVAy)

410 408

I don't follow in re "true school".

Marx and someone like Bakunin were not very much alike except for an eschatological tendency.

Neither were the Spanish Anarchists and Spanish Commies.

Anarchists always lose because they are such broken deviants.
Posted by: Thesokorus at August 03, 2023 04:45 PM (QsVAy)

Well Marxism explicitly calls for a falling away of the state after the original economic organization. His economic writings also advocate for people ultimately working in things they like(inconsistent with his condemnations elsewhere). Libertines based on Marx have some plausible things to draw upon. Communism as implemented by Lenin and Stalin had little to draw upon in ways of an operational theory, arguably most of their practices are innovation. In Stalin's case he was intentionally imitating the Tsars. Mao was intentionally imitating an imagined notion of Qin Shi Huang at times. Hard to cut out one group as "not really Marxist".

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 03, 2023 04:56 PM (eYoxG)

411 Hard to cut out one group as "not really Marxist".
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 03, 2023 04:56 PM (eYoxG)

Marxists are materialists and at least begin with Marx's texts.

I think there have been a lot of Marxists.

I don't know of a single libertine Marxist government.

Marx facilely paraphrased Hegel and libertines are (I think definitonally) idealists. So some may quote Marx.

But matetialist libertine is an oxymoron as far as I understand the terms.

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 03, 2023 05:04 PM (QsVAy)

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