"Jawboning:" Biden's White House Pushed FaceBook to Rig Its Algorithm To Suppress Conservative News Sites, and Boost Liberal Ones

Just some "jawboning," David French calls it. The government has first amendment rights too, he says, and the government's first amendment rights (which are not mentioned in the Constitution) prevail among the citizenry's first amendment rights (which are mentioned in the Constitution, somewhat prominently).

Those of us who aren't being paid 30 pieces of silver to shill for the grotesque left call it "illegal and unconstitutional censorship by a rogue government."

The Biden White House inquired in meetings with Facebook executives asking whether Facebook could tweak its algorithm to showcase stories from The New York Times and Wall Street Journal over content posted by "polarizing" conservative journalists and commentators in early 2021, according to meeting notes the social media firm turned over to Congress that are alarming some constitutional lawyers. The alleged focus of the meetings was to assist the administration while it struggled to combat COVID vaccine hesitancy.

Note that the Wall Street Journal is itself a liberal "news" source. People call the editorial page, the opinion page, of the Wall Street Journal "conservative." Or, rather, "Establishment, corporate open borders 'conservative.'" The news side of the WSJ is unabashedly leftwing.

The memos, reviewed by Just the News, chronicle a series of meetings between White House digital director Rob Flaherty and executives from Facebook, now known as Meta, in spring 2021 as the first questions about the efficacy and safety of COVID-19 vaccine began surging on social media.
The memos delivered recently under subpoena to the House Judiciary Committee make clear the White House was actively interacting with Facebook, and sometimes pressuring the social media giant to moderate content in a way that would encourage more Americans to get inoculations.
President Joe Biden would eventually mandate such shots for many Americans, though he was reversed by the courts and Congress.
On April 14, 2021, for instance, the White House's Flaherty asked Facebook whether it could promote The New York Times and The Wall Street Journal over The Daily Wire and Fox News commentator Tomi Lahren, according to Facebook meeting documents obtained by Just the News.

"Asked."

As I have repeatedly said, FaceBook, Google, and Twitter are tolerated monopolies who could and should be broken up or limited by the government, and would be if we weren't living in the worst of all possible worlds, a Corporate Marxist regime. Their existence is precarious; they depend on the government continuing its corporatist policy of permitting them to continue being monopolies and using that monopoly power to strangle competition. (Witness these companies ganging up to deplatform Parler.)

The government isn't "asking" these companies for shit. It's instructing them what they are required to do to maintain their current status as tolerated monopolies, and not become un-tolerated monopolies.

Flaherty asked Facebook employees "If you were to change the algorithm so that people were more likely to see NYT, WSJ, any authoritative news source over Daily Wire, Tomi Lahren, polarizing people. You wouldn't have a mechanism to check the material impact?" according to Facebook's typewritten notes from the meeting.
Lahren had publicly announced she was choosing to skip taking the vaccine, and Daily Wire filed one of the landmark lawsuits challenge Biden's mandate that companies force their employees to get the shots as a term of keeping their jobs.
Prior to Flaherty's question, he discussed COVID vaccine hesitancy with Facebook employees during the meeting, asking what the company was doing about it.
"We have to explain to President, Ron, people, why there is misinfo on the internet, bigger problem than FB," Flaherty was quoted as saying. "Where issues are, what interventions are, how well they are working, for products, want to engage in things that you know to be effective. I don't even care about specific methodology, you have better, richer data than we'll ever have.
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Flaherty is cited in the notes as asking the questions "because candidly there is not a lot of trust towards FB" and the Biden White House wanted to know whether the platform was "finding things that are effective that you aren't doing" to combat resistance to the vaccines.

In other words: "FaceBook may lose its indulgences as a government-tolerated monopoly if they do not obey these government directives."

Ben Shapiro says he might sue. He must sue. THIS WILL NOT STOP UNTIL CENSORSHIP AND COOPERATION WITH GOVERNMENT TO SUPPRESS FREE SPEECH CARRIES CASH-MONEY CONSEQUENCES MEASURED IN THE TENS OF MILLIONS.

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Constitutional law professors denounced the White House's actions outlined in the new memos obtained by Just the News, saying they smacked of censorship and raised serious First Amendment issues.
George Washington University law professor Jonathan Turley told Just the News on Wednesday, "This is why I have asked Congress to pass a law barring federal employees from engaging in censorship and targeting of citizens. Agencies have a right to speak in their own voices. Instead, the Biden Administration sought to engage in what I have called 'censorship through surrogate.' This is part of that pattern."
Normally, private companies cannot be held accountable for First Amendment violations, however the law provides an exception when a private entity is acting "under color of law." University of Tennessee law professor Glenn Reynolds told Just the News on Wednesday that the First Amendment issue is when the "government is asking people to censor speech, their action is attributable to the government, so both they and the government can be sued."
He believes that The Daily Wire and Lahren could "and probably should" sue the federal government and Facebook over the censorship.

Reynolds notes that these so-called "private companies" do not have, as the federal government does, sovereign immunity.

And of course the White House was pressuring FaceBook to censor true information as well. (Though it does not matter if the censored material is true or false for purposes of the First Amendment -- because, shall the government be our arbiter of truth? Men can speak whatever they think to be the truth, even if they are wrong.)

But they can't even claim they were just demanding censorship of "misinformation." They wanted the true stuff taken down most of all, because truth is the most convincing argument against a tyrant.

Facebook took steps to suppress true information or mere opinions about vaccines to avoid a "vaccine negative environment," according to internal company occupations viewed by Fox Business.
On a July 2021 call between Facebook employees and Surgeon General Vivek Murthy's Office, a Facebook employee explained they were combating misinformation, but also working to contain information they admitted was "not false."
Facebook told the Surgeon General's office they instituted "borderline demotions" for someone sharing "negative side effect posts" or even "posts questioning whether you should get a vaccine under a mandate, whether it's government overreach. We demote those. That's not false information, but it leads to a vaccine negative environment."
The Biden White House didn't want just true content restrained, however; even memes irked them.
In an email, Facebook's then-VP of Global Affair Nick Clegg discussed with his team a call he had with Andy Slavitt, President Biden's White House senior adviser for the COVID response. Clegg said of Slavitt, "he was outraged -- not too strong a word to describe his reaction -- that we did not remove this post" pointing to a meme about vaccine side effects.
A Facebook employee acknowledged demoting posts that created what they called a "vaccine negative environment." (Kurt Knutsson)
The meme in question used the popular image of Leonardo DiCaprio pointing at his TV, with the text, "10 years from now you will be watching TV and hear, 'Did you or a loved one take the covid vaccine? You may be entitled...'", a riff on commercials often seen for class-action lawsuits.
Clegg continued, "I countered that removing content like that would represent a significant incursion into traditional boundaries of free expression in the US, but he replied that the post was directly comparing Covid vaccines to asbestos poisoning in a way which demonstrably inhibits confidence in Covid vaccines amongst those the Biden administration is trying to reach."
The White House and Meta didn't reply to requests for comment.

Jim Jordan just released The FaceBook Files, Part 3.

Some major points:

Rep. Jim Jordan
@Jim_Jordan
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20m
In 2021, the White House wanted to control what narratives and true content was posted on Facebook surrounding #COVID19.
President Biden went so far to say that Facebook was "killing people" for allowing certain statements to be published on the site.
Rob Flaherty, President Biden's then-Director of Digital Strategy, repeatedly put pressure on Facebook to explain its content decisions.
"We have to explain to President, Ron, people, why there is misinfo on the internet..."
For example, Flaherty questioned whether Facebook was doing enough to reduce traffic from sites like the @nypost
.
"I'm curious -- NY Post churning out articles every day... What is supposed to happen to that from Policy perspective. Does that article get a reduction, labels?"
But that wasn't enough for the Biden White House. Flaherty wanted Facebook to go a step further.
He wanted Facebook to kick people off its site.
The Biden White House's effort to censor opposing viewpoints only grew.
So, they upped the pressure.
Flaherty demanded that Facebook "play ball" and work with the Biden White House on censorship.
He called it his "dream."

You know who else had a dream?

He recounts the White House demanding censorship of the Daily Wire, which I've noted above.

...
And of course, Facebook caved.
The company ADMITTED to the White House that it reduced content of certain posts -- even if the posts didn't violate the company's terms and contained TRUE information.

He has supporting documents in the thread.

Posted by: Ace at 12:00 PM

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1 First?

Not noodling.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 03, 2023 11:59 AM (Gf3mx)

2 Morning.

Posted by: Robert at August 03, 2023 12:00 PM (7k5+I)

3 Jawboning of an ass.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at August 03, 2023 12:00 PM (ScR16)

4 Not Nodding that is.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 03, 2023 12:00 PM (Gf3mx)

5 Hi Ace.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 03, 2023 12:00 PM (TZ75n)

6 Nooding!

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 03, 2023 12:00 PM (Gf3mx)

7 Good afternoon everyone.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 03, 2023 12:01 PM (T0jQj)

8 consequences, please

Apart from stolen elections and police state apparatus being directed at US citizens, that is.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at August 03, 2023 12:01 PM (xcxpd)

9 Hi Ace
Busy week.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 03, 2023 12:01 PM (t/2Uw)

10 And David French's idea of 'jawboning' is just a catchphrase for his hunger for cock.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at August 03, 2023 12:01 PM (xcxpd)

11 FB...because everyone wants to know what I had for dinner last night.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 03, 2023 12:02 PM (e4fEA)

12 "This is why I have asked Congress to pass a law barring federal employees from engaging in censorship and targeting of citizens. Agencies have a right to speak in their own voices. Instead, the Biden Administration sought to engage in what I have called 'censorship through surrogate.'

Pssst......it's already against the law.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 03, 2023 12:02 PM (QNSds)

13 Those of us who aren't being paid 30 pieces of silver to shill for the grotesque left call it "illegal and unconstitutional censorship by a rogue government."
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Using a biblical metaphor against them is the thing they hate the most.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 03, 2023 12:03 PM (t0OGg)

14 I didn't catch from the title. what movie was this reviewing?

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 03, 2023 12:03 PM (KUmG1)

15 Note that the Wall Street Journal is itself a liberal "news" source. People call the editorial page, the opinion page, of the Wall Street Journal "conservative." Or, rather, "Establishment, corporate open borders 'conservative.'" The news side of the WSJ is unabashedly leftwing.
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See Also: Fox News.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 03, 2023 12:03 PM (t0OGg)

16 You know who else had a dream?

MLK or Hitler. One of those.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 03, 2023 12:03 PM (eOEVl)

17 the power pie is a bigun and when it's served, all the lefties want a seat at the table

Posted by: REDACTED at August 03, 2023 12:03 PM (us2H3)

18 The State is evil. We know this.

But I want to hear more about Lizzo and vagina bananas.

Posted by: Robert at August 03, 2023 12:03 PM (OV5lw)

19 Censorship - everybody's doin' it.

Posted by: huerfano at August 03, 2023 12:04 PM (7zEAH)

20 As I have repeatedly said, FaceBook, Google, and Twitter are tolerated monopolies who could and should be broken up or limited by the government, and would be if we weren't living in the worst of all possible worlds, a Corporate Marxist regime. Their existence is precarious; they depend on the government continuing its corporatist policy of permitting them to continue being monopolies and using that monopoly power to strangle competition. (Witness these companies ganging up to deplatform Parler.)

The government isn't "asking" these companies for shit. It's instructing them what they are required to do to maintain their current status as tolerated monopolies, and not become un-tolerated monopolies.
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Yes indeed. But they never ever *say* that out loud, not even to each-other. That makes it nice and legal, right?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 03, 2023 12:04 PM (t0OGg)

21 So, where's this going?....nowhere.

Posted by: BignJames at August 03, 2023 12:05 PM (AwYPR)

22 Is there anything here that's a surprise?

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 03, 2023 12:05 PM (i9ffA)

23 The problem the media has is if we started debating policies their staff would be unable to report it cuz retards.

Posted by: Puddinhead at August 03, 2023 12:05 PM (uia9V)

24 This sounds a lot like making an offer he can't refuse . . . .

Posted by: Elric Blade at August 03, 2023 12:05 PM (iFTx/)

25 22 Is there anything here that's a surprise?
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 03, 2023 12:05 PM (i9ffA)

I'm surprised there's evidence. Somebody's a fuckup.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at August 03, 2023 12:06 PM (xcxpd)

26 "We have to explain to President, Ron, people, why there is misinfo on the internet, bigger problem than FB," Flaherty was quoted as saying. "Where issues are, what interventions are, how well they are working, for products, want to engage in things that you know to be effective. I don't even care about specific methodology, you have better, richer data than we'll ever have.
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"The boss wants it. So go do it. He's your boss, too, you know."

I mentioned during some of the Twitter Files disclosures how much the language used was the kind of language used by a subordinate dreading a difficult conversation with the boss. It wasn't "partnership" language or "I'm doing you a favor" language, it was "I am being given orders I don't like" language.

This is more of the same.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 03, 2023 12:06 PM (t0OGg)

27 Saw a video of the kid who was arrested for reading the bible outside a drag performance. He was literally arrested for no reason. This speech looked like it was in front of a toen council meeting. He was incredibly articulate. Made me think that maybe a new generation might stand up for their rights.
It is well worth posting,Ace.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 03, 2023 12:06 PM (t/2Uw)

28
*stomps in*

Thanks for the nood!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 03, 2023 12:06 PM (MoZTd)

29 This is why I have asked Congress to pass a law barring federal employees from engaging in censorship and targeting of citizens. Agencies have a right to speak in their own voices. Instead, the Biden Administration sought to engage in what I have called 'censorship through surrogate.'

Pssst......it's already against the law.
Posted by: Mister Scott

Top Fucking Men.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 03, 2023 12:06 PM (TZ75n)

30 OK, I know we all hate the Biden Admin... but the censoring did not just start under Biden. It was happening when Trump was in office as well.

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 03, 2023 12:06 PM (oHd/0)

31 The government isn't "asking" these companies for shit. It's instructing them what they are required to do to maintain their current status as tolerated monopolies, and not become un-tolerated monopolies.

For people who are so convinced they're the smartest people ever, lefties seem to have a lot of trouble understanding that it's just the presence of a person or entity that's needed for blackmail.

c.f. Joe Biden's presence on Hunter's "business" calls.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 03, 2023 12:06 PM (eOEVl)

32 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 03, 2023 12:06 PM (Zz0t1)

33 RAGE AGAINST THE THING

Posted by: DB - shadowy operator at August 03, 2023 12:06 PM (geLO8)

34 THIS WILL NOT STOP UNTIL CENSORSHIP AND COOPERATION WITH GOVERNMENT TO SUPPRESS FREE SPEECH CARRIES CASH-MONEY CONSEQUENCES MEASURED IN THE TENS OF MILLIONS.

Or until content creators stop using government-enforcement arm platforms as their bread and butter.

You don't use FB or Twitter.

Drag the content away from these leviathans, if you have a good product, people will follow.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 03, 2023 12:07 PM (Gf3mx)

35 I agree Ben Shapiro needs to sue.
If this was done to Democrats these people would be in jail.

Posted by: redridinghood at August 03, 2023 12:07 PM (NpAcC)

36 Top Fucking Men.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 03, 2023 12:06 PM (TZ75n)

David French is a bottom, not a top, otherwise, yes.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at August 03, 2023 12:07 PM (xcxpd)

37 You know who else had a dream?

ABBA?

Posted by: spindrift at August 03, 2023 12:07 PM (iG1Nf)

38 Is there anything here that's a surprise?
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 03, 2023 12:05 PM (i9ffA)

Not to regular readers of this site.

Which reminds me that I'm overdue for tip jar visits for Ace and CJN. They like getting just the tip.

Posted by: Doof at August 03, 2023 12:07 PM (2pH9T)

39 Ben Shapiro says he might sue. He must sue. THIS WILL NOT STOP UNTIL CENSORSHIP AND COOPERATION WITH GOVERNMENT TO SUPPRESS FREE SPEECH CARRIES CASH-MONEY CONSEQUENCES MEASURED IN THE TENS OF MILLIONS.
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I disagree. Cash-money consequences are useful and appropriate, but not enough.

The monopolies need to be broken up. When the monopolies re-form (and they will - the nature of social media is that there will be one winner), they need to be broken up, too.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 03, 2023 12:07 PM (t0OGg)

40 OK, I know we all hate the Biden Admin... but the censoring did not just start under Biden. It was happening when Trump was in office as well.

Example?

Posted by: Archimedes at August 03, 2023 12:07 PM (eOEVl)

41 They have to censor because they have no actual rebuttal.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at August 03, 2023 12:08 PM (ScR16)

42 I get that private companies don't have sovereign immunity, but can they be sued for constituational violations? If they assert a right to moderate does that make them publishers and differently governed? Is that the end goal here?

Posted by: Iris at August 03, 2023 12:08 PM (NaH5I)

43 Is there a single member of the Democratic Party that is not demon possessed

Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at August 03, 2023 12:08 PM (HfNu5)

44 The Government, which is nothing more than a man made legal institution HAS NOT RIGHTS.

It has powers... it has limitations... it has responsibilities... but it has no Natural or God Given Rights.

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 03, 2023 12:08 PM (oHd/0)

45 Normally, private companies cannot be held accountable for First Amendment violations, however the law provides an exception when a private entity is acting "under color of law." University of Tennessee law professor Glenn Reynolds told Just the News on Wednesday that the First Amendment issue is when the "government is asking people to censor speech, their action is attributable to the government, so both they and the government can be sued."
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And, of course, it's illegal. The government is not allowed to ask a private entity to do something it itself is forbidden from doing.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 03, 2023 12:08 PM (t0OGg)

46 22 Is there anything here that's a surprise?
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 03, 2023 12:05 PM (i9ffA)

my ex has entered the chat

Posted by: REDACTED at August 03, 2023 12:08 PM (us2H3)

47
The government isn't "asking" these companies for shit.

They ask us to pay our taxes.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 03, 2023 12:08 PM (63Dwl)

48
lefties seem to have a lot of trouble understanding that it's just the presence of a person or entity that's needed for blackmail.

*sits in the audience*
*says nothing*

Posted by: Frank Pentangeli's Brother at August 03, 2023 12:08 PM (MoZTd)

49 Is there anything here that's a surprise?
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 03, 2023 12:05 PM (i9ffA)

I'm surprised there's evidence. Somebody's a fuckup.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at August 03, 2023 12:06 PM (xcxpd)

Even gub'mint byeracrats gotta fill out performance reports.

"Today, I frustrated many thoughtful and intelligent people by calling them Nazis and getting them banned from the twitbooks."

Posted by: Robert at August 03, 2023 12:08 PM (OV5lw)

50 The Biden White House inquired in meetings with Facebook executives asking whether Facebook could tweak its algorithm to showcase stories from The New York Times and Wall Street Journal over content posted by "polarizing" conservative journalists and commentators in early 2021,

I honestly don't know how much that benefits the left.

1. Lefties can't meme. That's been proven.
2. Look how fast Bud Light and Jason Aldean went viral on the right.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 03, 2023 12:09 PM (Cn8Ag)

51 40 OK, I know we all hate the Biden Admin... but the censoring did not just start under Biden. It was happening when Trump was in office as well.

Example?
Posted by: Archimedes at August 03, 2023 12:07 PM (eOEVl)

Uh, were you around on Facebook or Twitter back then?

Height of the Covid crap?

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 03, 2023 12:09 PM (oHd/0)

52 Everything this administration does is against the people and violates the Constitution.

Everything.

They are treasonous and should be hanged by the neck until dead in accordance to the law.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 03, 2023 12:09 PM (Zz0t1)

53 Corporate Marxist

The proper term is "fascist".

Posted by: Rob Crawford at August 03, 2023 12:09 PM (Rrhb6)

54 Clegg continued, "I countered that removing content like that would represent a significant incursion into traditional boundaries of free expression in the US, but he replied that the post was directly comparing Covid vaccines to asbestos poisoning in a way which demonstrably inhibits confidence in Covid vaccines amongst those the Biden administration is trying to reach."

The White House and Meta didn't reply to requests for comment.
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Y'don't say that they dodged your queries about outright censorship at all levels. Color me shocked.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 03, 2023 12:09 PM (t0OGg)

55 Some "climate crisis" jackass on TwatX is going off about an old man who died of heat stroke while hiking in Death Valley. In July.

Because nobody ever died of the heat in Death Valley before, ever. The "Death Valley" name is just a picturesque sobriquet the National Park Service marketing team invented to entertain the tourists.

Yup.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 03, 2023 12:10 PM (Y6AXb)

56 MSM and the associated tech companies will be my focus if things ever go sideways. It’s been repeated ad nauseum

Posted by: polynikes at August 03, 2023 12:10 PM (MNhXM)

57 Jawbone/Ass GOOGLE IT !!

Posted by: I'm Gumby. Damn It! at August 03, 2023 12:10 PM (ojsTT)

58 OK, I know we all hate the Biden Admin... but the censoring did not just start under Biden. It was happening when Trump was in office as well.
Posted by: Romeo13 at August 03, 2023 12:06 PM (oHd/0)

But it was done by idiots not doing the bidding of the President because the Big Guy was just the Big Guy, not the installed Meat Puppet. The agents of the Deep State were certainly doing illegal things, but at least theoretically they could be fired without the "just following orders" whitewash.

Posted by: Catherine at August 03, 2023 12:10 PM (ZSsrh)

59 Flaherty demanded that Facebook "play ball" and work with the Biden White House on censorship.

He called it his "dream."
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His dream is our reality. These bastards are real bastards.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 03, 2023 12:10 PM (t0OGg)

60 I guess it's ...nice... to see in black and white what we knew was going on this whole time.

But I really don't think it matters. The fact that the government is this blatant about it means they certainly don't think it matters.

If the media refuses to report on it, and social media obviously will censor / tweak the algorithm to limit its spread, then ... what? Most people will never hear about it, those who do will either not care or say "good, social media should be censoring misinformation".

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 03, 2023 12:10 PM (mj0Qp)

61 And David French's idea of 'jawboning' is just a catchphrase for his hunger for cock.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at August 03, 2023 12:01 PM (xcxpd)

Jawboning is the word used to describe how French can dislocate his jaw to accept the REALLY big cock.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 03, 2023 12:10 PM (Zz0t1)

62 And, of course, it's illegal. The government is not allowed to ask a private entity to do something it itself is forbidden from doing.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 03, 2023 12:08 PM (t0OGg)

^^Can we get a class action suit? Every conservative in America had their rights violated. And does the death penalty apply? (just dreaming)

Posted by: Iris at August 03, 2023 12:10 PM (NaH5I)

63 Crap premature Postation

Posted by: polynikes at August 03, 2023 12:11 PM (MNhXM)

64 CASH-MONEY CONSEQUENCES MEASURED IN THE TENS OF MILLIONS.

I will settle hard time for violation of civil rights under color of law.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at August 03, 2023 12:11 PM (00h5N)

65 The company ADMITTED to the White House that it reduced content of certain posts -- even if the posts didn't violate the company's terms and contained TRUE information.
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True information? Perhaps. If it was, it was Malinformation, and we recommend controlling that.

Posted by: CISA at August 03, 2023 12:11 PM (t0OGg)

66 Those of us who aren't being paid 30 pieces of silver...

This is about me, isn't it?

...to shill for the grotesque left call it "illegal and unconstitutional censorship by a rogue government."

Oh, not my betrayal this time! Selling out 1st amendment rights isn't MY grift!

Posted by: Mike Pence at August 03, 2023 12:11 PM (1+AJV)

67 Norms status:

[X] Restored!
[ ] not restored

Posted by: National Review at August 03, 2023 12:11 PM (+Do8S)

68 Rob Flaherty, formerly President Biden's then-Director of Digital Strategy, is now part of the Biden reelection campaign, as of June.

Posted by: SMOD at August 03, 2023 12:11 PM (RHGPo)

69 He has supporting documents in the thread.
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I'll get right on it.

:: makes exaggerated wanking motion ::

Posted by: Merrick Garland, Congress, et. al. at August 03, 2023 12:11 PM (t0OGg)

70 French never met a statist he didn't want to fellate.

Posted by: Censor me daddy, censor me more! at August 03, 2023 12:11 PM (q1Zxb)

71 And THIS is election fraud

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 03, 2023 12:11 PM (pVWRI)

72 The government isn't "asking" these companies for shit.

They ask us to pay our taxes.

Just like they "ask" us to pay our fair share, which, of course, always means "more".

Posted by: Archimedes at August 03, 2023 12:12 PM (eOEVl)

73 I am alive and well!

Posted by: Memory Hole at August 03, 2023 12:12 PM (ufFY8)

74 > OK, I know we all hate the Biden Admin... but the censoring did not just start under Biden. It was happening when Trump was in office as well.
_____________

Censoring, in broad terms has been around in our political system for over a century. What's been going on in, say the last 25 years however is different in that nonpolitical entities are being censored by the government.

I honestly don't care as much about the 'censoring' that goes on behind congressional doors to each other. That's for the most part, theater.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 03, 2023 12:12 PM (Q4IgG)

75
They are treasonous and should be hanged by the neck until dead in accordance to the law.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden

Succinct and accurate.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 03, 2023 12:12 PM (t/2Uw)

76
David French is a bottom, not a top, otherwise, yes.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at August 03, 2023 12:07 PM (xcxpd)

He is a top, if you're using the 'reverse cowgirl' sense......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 03, 2023 12:12 PM (Zz0t1)

77 Example?
Posted by: Archimedes at August 03, 2023 12:07 PM (eOEVl)

The widespread move to censor anyone online who suggested that the Covid virus was created in the Wuhan labs began in earnest in March and April of 2020. Trump was President for 6 more months after that.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 03, 2023 12:12 PM (i9ffA)

78
Because nobody ever died of the heat in Death Valley before, ever.

Yo!

Posted by: McTeague, handcuffed to Marcus's corpse at August 03, 2023 12:12 PM (MoZTd)

79 Hey, all, back from the mechanic shop with $350 (!) gone from my bank account, $165 for the bulb itself and the rest labor. Cheap at the price when the entire headlight housing = $950 on GMPartsDirect.com.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 03, 2023 12:13 PM (J2vNu)

80 Jawboning is the word used to describe how French can dislocate his jaw to accept the REALLY big cock.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 03, 2023 12:10 PM (Zz0t1)

Correction cheerfully accepted

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at August 03, 2023 12:13 PM (xcxpd)

81 ^^Can we get a class action suit? Every conservative in America had their rights violated. And does the death penalty apply? (just dreaming)
Posted by: Iris at August 03, 2023 12:10 PM (NaH5I)
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Not a chance. Even if there were appetite for a class action, I strongly suspect it couldn't be done. Even if it can be legally done, good luck finding a lawyer. As a rule, lawyers don't tilt at windmills or take on unwinnable cases that will put them in ill repute with the Bar Association.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 03, 2023 12:13 PM (t0OGg)

82 Unexpectedly.

Posted by: ShainS -- We're Happy Ace's Geriatric Club ... at August 03, 2023 12:13 PM (f6UzA)

83 39 Ben Shapiro says he might sue. He must sue. THIS WILL NOT STOP UNTIL CENSORSHIP AND COOPERATION WITH GOVERNMENT TO SUPPRESS FREE SPEECH CARRIES CASH-MONEY CONSEQUENCES MEASURED IN THE TENS OF MILLIONS.
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I disagree. Cash-money consequences are useful and appropriate, but not enough.

The monopolies need to be broken up. When the monopolies re-form (and they will - the nature of social media is that there will be one winner), they need to be broken up, too.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 03, 2023 12:07 PM (t0OGg)

Agree with you here, Joe. Facebook has a market cap of $800 billion. They can afford to write a check for any amount of money the court decides to award Ben, and then they'll continue to do whatever they want. Break them up.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 03, 2023 12:13 PM (/iWhV)

84 OK, I know we all hate the Biden Admin... but the censoring did not just start under Biden. It was happening when Trump was in office as well.

Example?
Posted by: Archimedes at August 03, 2023 12:07 PM (eOEVl)

Uh, were you around on Facebook or Twitter back then?

Height of the Covid crap?

No need for snideness. I misunderstood what you were saying. I thought you meant Trump did the censoring, not censoring occurred during the Trump administration, but they didn't do it.

And no, I've never been on FB or Twitter.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 03, 2023 12:13 PM (eOEVl)

85 OK, I know we all hate the Biden Admin... but the censoring did not just start under Biden. It was happening when Trump was in office as well.
Posted by: Romeo13 at August 03, 2023 12:06 PM (oHd/0)

Are you insinuating that Trumps administration at the highest level was instigating the censoring, like the Biden administration, or that he was being undermined by bureaucrats of the deep state like everyone knows he was? Huge difference, you know

Posted by: OneEyedJack, hack soccer ref at August 03, 2023 12:13 PM (FCbAQ)

86 77 Example?
Posted by: Archimedes at August 03, 2023 12:07 PM (eOEVl)

The widespread move to censor anyone online who suggested that the Covid virus was created in the Wuhan labs began in earnest in March and April of 2020. Trump was President for 6 more months after that.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 03, 2023 12:12 PM (i9ffA)

Which like the Pentagon's refusal to follow orders in Syria reflects just how out of control the Executive branch is.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 03, 2023 12:13 PM (eYoxG)

87 Sponge seems to capture an inordinate number of First!!!s, sometimes even legitimately. It's unseemly and needs to be stopped, but much like the Deep State censoring conservative thought, there is no mechanism to do so.

Posted by: Hills To Die On at August 03, 2023 12:14 PM (83IzV)

88 42 I get that private companies don't have sovereign immunity, but can they be sued for constituational violations? If they assert a right to moderate does that make them publishers and differently governed? Is that the end goal here?
Posted by: Iris at August 03, 2023 12:08 PM (NaH5I)

Well, the argument has to be that they were acting as agents of the state when violating people's constitutional rights.

It's a tough argument to win most of the time, but most of the case law involves police.

The classic example is if police suspect a person is in possession of stolen goods, but do not have any proof. So they go to the landlord of the suspect, and say "hey, buddy, can you do us a solid? Can you go in to our suspects apartment on some kind of pretext, and while you're there, keep an eye out for these stolen goods, and if you see them, call us and tell us what you saw. With your "tip", we will have enough evidence to get a warrant."

Courts have said "in that specific scenario, the landlord is acting as an agent of the police, and he is violating the suspects 4th amendment rights."

So a lawyer would have to make a similar argument in this situation.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 03, 2023 12:14 PM (mj0Qp)

89 My mecahnic tells me that the headlight housing for a Range Rover = $4200.

"The second happiest day of a Range Rover owner's life is the day when he picks up the vehicle. The happiest day is the day he gets rid of it."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 03, 2023 12:14 PM (J2vNu)

90 The Nazis came to power in large part because they were able to buy a newspaper / printing house. ( the subsequent hyperinflation allowed them to keep it since their loan payments were now basically nothing)

Posted by: polynikes at August 03, 2023 12:14 PM (MNhXM)

91 Jawboning is the word used to describe how French can dislocate his jaw to accept the REALLY big cock.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 03, 2023 12:10 PM (Zz0t1)

Kinda' like a snake, then?

Posted by: BignJames at August 03, 2023 12:15 PM (AwYPR)

92 > OK, I know we all hate the Biden Admin... but the censoring did not just start under Biden. It was happening when Trump was in office as well.
_____________

Under Trump it didn't come from the White House.
We all know the "deep state" keeps going shit with or without the POTUS.

Posted by: SMOD at August 03, 2023 12:15 PM (RHGPo)

93 As I have repeatedly said, FaceBook, Google, and Twitter are tolerated monopolies who could and should be broken up or limited by the government, and would be if we weren't living in the worst of all possible worlds, a Corporate Marxist regime.

You can add Apple and Amazon to that.

It's worthwhile to recall that the government went after Microsoft for including a web browser in its operating system and for not paying protection money to the political system but mostly...

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 03, 2023 12:15 PM (GYIa4)

94
Kinda' like a snake, then?
Posted by: BignJames at August 03, 2023 12:15 PM (AwYPR)

Exactly. It's in his DNA.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 03, 2023 12:15 PM (Zz0t1)

95 Color of Law 18 USC 242

The Hunta, as always, are doing exactly what they accuse others of.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at August 03, 2023 12:15 PM (00h5N)

96 89 My mecahnic tells me that the headlight housing for a Range Rover = $4200.

"The second happiest day of a Range Rover owner's life is the day when he picks up the vehicle. The happiest day is the day he gets rid of it."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 03, 2023 12:14 PM (J2vNu)

This is exactly why I bought a Toyota.
Every time I took in my BMW for service, boom, 3 grand. EVERY time.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at August 03, 2023 12:16 PM (xcxpd)

97 ^^Can we get a class action suit? Every conservative in America had their rights violated. And does the death penalty apply? (just dreaming)

Posted by: Iris

No standing!

Posted by: Judge Tiny Bubbles at August 03, 2023 12:16 PM (eOEVl)

98 "Polarizing" = opposing the Party line

Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 03, 2023 12:16 PM (RIvkX)

99 55 Some "climate crisis" jackass on TwatX is going off about an old man who died of heat stroke while hiking in Death Valley. In July.

About as low as you can go. On the continent.
..

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at August 03, 2023 12:16 PM (AgLr4)

100 They are treasonous and should be hanged by the neck until dead in accordance to the law.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden

Nonsense! Read Romans 13!

1Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.

2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.

3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:

4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good.

Posted by: David French, biblical scholar and UberChristian at August 03, 2023 12:16 PM (q1Zxb)

101
Note that the Wall Street Journal is itself a liberal "news" source. People call the editorial page, the opinion page, of the Wall Street Journal "conservative."

Best of both worlds. When the WSJ spouts off some commie lies that the commies like in the news section, their commie cocksucker fellow travelers can say "See! These commie lies are mainstream conservative!".

If for some reason the WSJ fucks up and publishes some news that's ACTUALLY conservative, their commie cocksucker fellow travelers can dismiss it "That's just conservative misinformation! Look at the editorial page! Lies!"

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 03, 2023 12:17 PM (n+4am)

102 Social media is about to take a hit anyway.

China's internet czar has suggested capping internet activities at 2 hours per day for youth.

And since they are commies and such, that means that Chinese kids will only be allowed two hours a day. Gonna cut way into those views and likes and such.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 03, 2023 12:17 PM (Gf3mx)

103 Semi related.

What do you need? A signed confession?!!!

https://tinyurl.com/3uhw7fhu

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 03, 2023 12:17 PM (FVME7)

104 How can one afford collision coverage on a Range Rover or BMW?

Posted by: polynikes at August 03, 2023 12:17 PM (MNhXM)

105 The FOX propagandists are saying that the latest indictment is an attack upon freedom of speech. That Donald Trump had every right, under freedom of speech, to question the results of the election of 2020.

They are delusional and intellectually short to a dangerous degree. No one says that Trump does not have a right to free speech. But, he has yelled "Fire!' in a crowded theater, when there was no fire. He lied, to the harm of everyone else.

These propagandists must be called out on their continuing attacks upon our democracy, disguised as freedom of speech.

The Magats had their freedom of speech legal defense ready for charges of seditious conspiracy and inciting a riot. Jack Smith outsmarted them he didn't use those charges.

Smith even explains the difference when lying is protected and when it is not. The Magats are barking up the tree that doesn't have a squirrel in it.

Feels like they are prepping it to eventually go to SCOTUS
that or they just don’t have any other excuse. The speech bit was completely refuted by several legal commentators (CNN and MSNBC). Trump went from speech to action.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at August 03, 2023 12:17 PM (1+AJV)

106 Are you insinuating that Trumps administration at the highest level was instigating the censoring, like the Biden administration, or that he was being undermined by bureaucrats of the deep state like everyone knows he was? Huge difference, you know
Posted by: OneEyedJack, hack soccer ref at August 03, 2023 12:13 PM (FCbAQ)

Well, I don't think Biden is personally behind this either. I think the "deep state" as it were went in to a panic after the 2016 election, and the internet was forever changed because of it.

This stuff probably happened a little bit under Bush and Obama, but I'd peg 2016 as the year it went in to hyper drive. That's when YouTube began taking down / demonetizing any video that was even slightly outside the mainstream lockstep, Reddit shut down half of the subreddits, Facebook etc. were all massively pressured to keep "Russian disinformation" off their platforms, etc. So I'd argue this definitely started during the Trump years.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 03, 2023 12:18 PM (mj0Qp)

107
"The second happiest day of a Range Rover owner's life is the day when he picks up the vehicle. The happiest day is the day he gets rid of it."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 03, 2023 12:14 PM (J2vNu)

Luxury cars are incredibly expensive to own. Like, an oil change is $1000.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 03, 2023 12:18 PM (MoZTd)

108 this really sounds like something the USSC should give a flying fig about, no?

wake up you robed dullards

Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 03, 2023 12:18 PM (AcWfM)

109 When a real insurrection starts, can we finally stop referring to Jan 6 as an insurrection? Can't happen soon enough for me. I would like to see the constitutional United States resumed.

Posted by: From about That Time at August 03, 2023 12:18 PM (4780s)

110 You know who else had a dream?

ABBA?
Posted by: spindrift at August 03, 2023 12:07 PM (iG1Nf)

Alan Parsons had a dream within a dream…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at August 03, 2023 12:18 PM (3WhGI)

111 Jawboning is the word used to describe how French can dislocate his jaw to accept the REALLY big cock.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 03, 2023 12:10 PM (Zz0t1)

Kinda' like a snake, then?
Posted by: BignJames at August 03, 2023 1

This is why the Lizard People are so good at deep throating.

Posted by: I mean, you know, theoretically at August 03, 2023 12:18 PM (q1Zxb)

112
President Biden went so far to say that Facebook was "killing people" for allowing certain statements to be published on the site.

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If Biden said this, it's because someone put the words in his mouth. He doesn't have an opinion on the planet about policy or philosophy or anything beyond the end of his nose, and he doesn't have the neural pathways to connect COVID deaths (to the extent they exist) and Facebook.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 03, 2023 12:18 PM (lCaJd)

113 You know who else had a dream?

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Tom Petty?

Posted by: ShainS -- We're Happy Ace's Geriatric Club ... at August 03, 2023 12:18 PM (f6UzA)

114 It's worthwhile to recall that the government went after Microsoft for including a web browser in its operating system and for not paying protection money to the political system but mostly...
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 03, 2023 12:15 PM (GYIa4)

^^And how many years did this take? Sigh, looking for instant SMOD here...

Posted by: Iris at August 03, 2023 12:18 PM (NaH5I)

115 99 55 Some "climate crisis" jackass on TwatX is going off about an old man who died of heat stroke while hiking in Death Valley. In July.

About as low as you can go. On the continent.
..
Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at August 03, 2023 12:16 PM (AgLr4

Given that everything was always nice and cool in the 19th century and before, I wonder why they named it "Death" Valley?

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 03, 2023 12:19 PM (i9ffA)

116 So there will be consequences, right?

Right?

Posted by: blaster at August 03, 2023 12:19 PM (LCpB6)

117 REEELAXXXXXXXX

You're soaking in it

Posted by: Fascism at August 03, 2023 12:19 PM (flINI)

118 The monopolies need to be broken up. When the monopolies re-form (and they will - the nature of social media is that there will be one winner), they need to be broken up, too.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 03, 2023 12:07 PM (t0OGg)

Alphabet should not, for example, be permitted to own the biggest search engine AND the biggest ad placement service AND the biggest video sharing site AND ...

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 03, 2023 12:19 PM (GYIa4)

119 "The second happiest day of a Range Rover owner's life is the day when he picks up the vehicle. The happiest day is the day he gets rid of it."

I love my RR

it's older now so honestly it's less rickety

because I'm nice to it!

Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 03, 2023 12:19 PM (AcWfM)

120 China's internet czar has suggested capping internet activities at 2 hours per day for youth.

And since they are commies and such, that means that Chinese kids will only be allowed two hours a day. Gonna cut way into those views and likes and such.

They have a huge problem with their fertility rate. I'm sure they think, correctly, that porn is part of the problem, although I don't know how much gets through their filters.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 03, 2023 12:19 PM (eOEVl)

121 Rob Flaherty, President Biden's then-Director of Digital Strategy

FJB is so far gone he needs someone to tell him who to finger-bang?

Posted by: mikeski at August 03, 2023 12:19 PM (DgGvY)

122 So there will be consequences, right?

Right?
Posted by: blaster at August 03, 2023 12:19 PM (LCpB6)

*Insert laugh used by The Critical Drinker here*

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 03, 2023 12:19 PM (Zz0t1)

123 Chicago mayor takes offense to use of word 'mob' to describe a criminal mob

-
So just watch it!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 03, 2023 12:19 PM (FVME7)

124 death by hunga munga

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at August 03, 2023 12:19 PM (xcxpd)

125 If Biden said this, it's because someone put the words in his mouth. He doesn't have an opinion on the planet about policy or philosophy or anything beyond the end of his nose, and he doesn't have the neural pathways to connect COVID deaths (to the extent they exist) and Facebook.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 03, 2023 12:18 PM (lCaJd)

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EOTUS > TOTUS

Posted by: ShainS -- We're Happy Ace's Geriatric Club ... at August 03, 2023 12:19 PM (f6UzA)

126 Joe Biden sure has been busy the 2 plus years he's been in the white house.

Lying, stealing, bribing, raping, grifting, usurping, warring, spying, molesting, indicting, fronting, extorting, bulling, raping and sleeping.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 03, 2023 12:20 PM (5L/TD)

127
You know who else had a dream?

Pilate's wife?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 03, 2023 12:20 PM (MoZTd)

128 The widespread move to censor anyone online who suggested that the Covid virus was created in the Wuhan labs began in earnest in March and April of 2020. Trump was President for 6 more months after that.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 03, 2023 12:12 PM (i9ffA)

Did the Trump WH request the censorship? I wouldn’t put it past it being a Fauci recommendation.

Posted by: polynikes at August 03, 2023 12:20 PM (MNhXM)

129 They are treasonous and should be hanged by the neck until dead in accordance to the law.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden

Nonsense! Read Romans 13!

1Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.

Posted by: David French

1a. Let Conservatives schedule the meeting.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 03, 2023 12:20 PM (Cn8Ag)

130 My 3 vehicles are a combined 139 years old. Also have a motor home that's 36 years old.

Posted by: Mr. Cheep at August 03, 2023 12:20 PM (83IzV)

131 This is exactly why I bought a Toyota.
Every time I took in my BMW for service, boom, 3 grand. EVERY time.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at August 03, 2023

***
I only had my 3 Series for four months, so I don't know what regular services might have run. I wasn't planning to take it to a BMW dealer for sure. I bought the correct BMW-approved oil at Walmart and the oil and other filters online, and changed the air filter myself. None of that was expensive.

When the 3 was totalled in that rainstorm flood, I looked at other used BMWs.
None that I liked were a price I felt happy with. Eventually I went back to Buick, and am glad I did.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 03, 2023 12:20 PM (J2vNu)

132
this really sounds like something the USSC should give a flying fig about, no?

wake up you robed dullards
Posted by: BlackOrchid

=============

Just curious, does the USSC have the power to reach out and grab a case for themselves, or can they only passively wait for someone to bring one?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 03, 2023 12:20 PM (lCaJd)

133 I thought we already had a SCOTUS decision/precedent barring government "censorship by proxy".

But I like Turley's idea for a law as long as it has personal accountability, large fines and MSNDATORY prison time so they don't get off when some moneybags pays their fine

Posted by: JM in Florida -- now in IllinoisI at August 03, 2023 12:21 PM (ADvgr)

134 Those Russian bastards will stop at nothing!

From Reuters:

EU warns that Russia aims to create new
dependencies with cheap grain

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 03, 2023 12:21 PM (2tUFv)

135 Chicago mayor takes offense to use of word 'mob' to describe a criminal mob

-
So just watch it!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 03, 2023 12:19 PM (FVME7)

NY is Mob

Chicago is Syndicate

Posted by: polynikes at August 03, 2023 12:21 PM (MNhXM)

136 Joe Biden sure has been busy the 2 plus years he's been in the white house.

Lying, stealing, bribing, raping, grifting, usurping, warring, spying, molesting, indicting, fronting, extorting, bulling, raping and sleeping.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy

Obligatory: You said raping twice.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 03, 2023 12:21 PM (Cn8Ag)

137 If Biden said this, it's because someone put the words in his mouth. He doesn't have an opinion on the planet about policy or philosophy or anything beyond the end of his nose, and he doesn't have the neural pathways to connect COVID deaths (to the extent they exist) and Facebook.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 03, 2023 12:18 PM (lCaJd)

Agreed. He's almost 80 years old and has spent his entire life as a politician, with staff doing everything for him. I highly doubt he has any idea how social media works or what it even really is.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 03, 2023 12:21 PM (mj0Qp)

138 Maybe I might read the article now... why bother. I voted for the pitchforks a couple years back.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at August 03, 2023 12:21 PM (00h5N)

139 Given that everything was always nice and cool in the 19th century and before, I wonder why they named it "Death" Valley?

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 03, 2023 12:19 PM (i9ffA)

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"It was covered by a glacier until you people crossed the country in your carbon-spewing SUVs, h8r!"

Posted by: ShainS -- We're Happy Ace's Geriatric Club ... at August 03, 2023 12:22 PM (f6UzA)

140 About the only thing Joey Bidet hasn't done during his looting of America is rustle some cattle.

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 03, 2023 12:23 PM (3NsUs)

141 It has been noted that under Smith's legal theory, you could prosecute Biden for trying to cancel student loans - he was told that he didn't have the authority to do it, and went ahead and tried to do it anyway.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 03, 2023 12:23 PM (2tUFv)

142 "You know who else had a dream?"

Van Halen. Fleetwood Mac. Heart. Aerosmith. Roy Orbison.

Also -- Bob Newhart

Posted by: Doof at August 03, 2023 12:23 PM (2pH9T)

143 But I like Turley's idea for a law as long as it has personal accountability, large fines and MSNDATORY prison time so they don't get off when some moneybags pays their fine
Posted by: JM in Florida -- now in IllinoisI at August 03, 2023 12:21 PM (ADvgr)

Good point. New laws are useful for defining actual consequences and making sure they can be applied to the right people and their supervisors.

Posted by: Iris at August 03, 2023 12:23 PM (NaH5I)

144 NY is Mob

Chicago is Syndicate

Posted by: polynikes at August 03, 2023 12:21 PM (MNhXM)

-----------

Las Vegas is Racket.

Posted by: ShainS -- We're Happy Ace's Geriatric Club ... at August 03, 2023 12:23 PM (f6UzA)

145 Just curious, does the USSC have the power to reach out and grab a case for themselves, or can they only passively wait for someone to bring one?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 03, 2023 12:20 PM (lCaJd)

Technically, the Supreme Court only has original jurisdiction over a small number of issues.

But in practice, if any one on the court even so much as hints that they'd be willing to hear a case on a subject, lawyers will start petitioning for writs of cert on any case that's even close to what they think SCOTUS would hear.

that said, it usually takes many years for a case to go from inception to where it's ripe to be heard by SCOTUS.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 03, 2023 12:24 PM (mj0Qp)

146 guys sorry I'm in and out but you HAVE to see this post on X by Joetato today:

https://twitter.com/dc_draino/status/1687127273181224960

Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 03, 2023 12:24 PM (AcWfM)

147 I-uh, uh-I-uh,, I j-j-just thought of-uh, of-uh some-some-something. Do y'all r-r-remember, uh-remember when, when-uh, r-remember when-uh,,, uhhmmmmm

yeah

Posted by: John Fetterman at August 03, 2023 12:24 PM (5hfjS)

148 About the only thing Joey Bidet hasn't done during his looting of America is rustle some cattle.
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 03, 2023 12:23 PM (3NsUs)

Where all the white women at ?

Posted by: polynikes at August 03, 2023 12:24 PM (MNhXM)

149 141 It has been noted that under Smith's legal theory, you could prosecute Biden for trying to cancel student loans - he was told that he didn't have the authority to do it, and went ahead and tried to do it anyway.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 03, 2023 12:23 PM (2tUFv)

WHO can prosecute Biden?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at August 03, 2023 12:24 PM (xcxpd)

150 The monopolies need to be broken up. When the monopolies re-form (and they will - the nature of social media is that there will be one winner), they need to be broken up, too.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 03, 2023 12:07 PM (t0OGg)

Without anti-competitive actions like buying up competitors, I'm not sure that they will re-form.

From observation, it is the nature of social media that a monopoly forms... and then gets tossed away as old and worn out. If facebook wasn't buying up everything that might supplant it, we wouldn't have these monopolies. We'd have ephemeral monopolies, forever being replaced, so long as we actually enforced anti-trust laws and prevented the anti-competitive actions that keep them on top.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 03, 2023 12:24 PM (KUmG1)

151 You know who else had a dream?

Pilate's wife?

I don't know about his wife, but he did.

https://tinyurl.com/yrhpnpjc

Posted by: Archimedes at August 03, 2023 12:24 PM (eOEVl)

152 "The second happiest day of a Range Rover owner's life is the day when he picks up the vehicle. The happiest day is the day he gets rid of it."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 03, 2023
*
Luxury cars are incredibly expensive to own. Like, an oil change is $1000.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 03, 2023

***
At a dealer or a place that positions itself as a high-end service shop, yes. The local RR dealer suggests people bring their cars to my mechanic's shop for services.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 03, 2023 12:24 PM (J2vNu)

153 Alphabet should not, for example, be permitted to own the biggest search engine AND the biggest ad placement service AND the biggest video sharing site AND ...
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 03, 2023 12:19 PM (GYIa4)
++++
Alphabet needs to be split into a *lot* of different pieces. First, along line of business (search, ads, video, services like E-Mail or storage, cloud platform, etc.), then where those lines of business themselves represent monopolies (ads, search, video), the new entities need to be further split up.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 03, 2023 12:24 PM (t0OGg)

154 EU warns that Russia aims to create new
dependencies with cheap grain
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 03, 2023 12:21 PM

Those BASTARDS! Killing thousands of people was all well and good, but creating cheap food to help grow and support the human population IS UNACCEPTABLE!

Posted by: WEF at August 03, 2023 12:24 PM (1+AJV)

155
Oh, not my betrayal this time! Selling out 1st amendment rights isn't MY grift!
Posted by: Mike Pence at August 03, 2023 12:11 PM (1+AJV)

Nah. You're just a run-of-the-mill lawyer-politician grifter. I mean, after college and law school you only worked in private practice for LESS THAN TWO YEARS before you quit (probably because it was too difficult for your shrivelled little brain). You've been a phony fucking GOPe state fair carny ever since.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 03, 2023 12:24 PM (n+4am)

156 141 It has been noted that under Smith's legal theory, you could prosecute Biden for trying to cancel student loans - he was told that he didn't have the authority to do it, and went ahead and tried to do it anyway.

he's still doing it

Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 03, 2023 12:24 PM (AcWfM)

157 140 About the only thing Joey Bidet hasn't done during his looting of America is rustle some cattle.
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 03, 2023 12:23 PM (3NsUs)

He just wants to ban them

Posted by: It's me donna at August 03, 2023 12:25 PM (bs+z0)

158 Obligatory: You said raping twice.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 03, 2023 12:21 PM (Cn8Ag)

left out vacationing

Posted by: BignJames at August 03, 2023 12:25 PM (AwYPR)

159 Chicago mayor takes offense to use of word 'mob' to describe a criminal mob

"They are poor, oppressed youths who deserve our compassion and sympathy as they loot a 7-11."

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 03, 2023 12:25 PM (2tUFv)

160 EU warns that Russia aims to create new dependencies with cheap grain

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 03, 2023 12:21 PM (2tUFv)

Cheap, plentiful food.

This goes against everything democracy stands for.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 03, 2023 12:25 PM (Gf3mx)

161 From observation, it is the nature of social media that a monopoly forms... and then gets tossed away as old and worn out. If facebook wasn't buying up everything that might supplant it, we wouldn't have these monopolies. We'd have ephemeral monopolies, forever being replaced, so long as we actually enforced anti-trust laws and prevented the anti-competitive actions that keep them on top.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 03, 2023 12:24 PM (KUmG1)
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That is another possibility, yes. Social media lends itself to monopoly because of network effects, but the staying power of any given network in an open market is a complete unknown.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 03, 2023 12:25 PM (t0OGg)

162 This Brandon is a bad dude!

Posted by: Corn Pop at August 03, 2023 12:25 PM (a3Q+t)

163 142 "You know who else had a dream?"

Van Halen. Fleetwood Mac. Heart. Aerosmith. Roy Orbison.

Also -- Bob Newhart
Posted by: Doof at August 03, 2023 12:23 PM (2pH9T)

Dolores O'Riordan did, but then she killed herself

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at August 03, 2023 12:26 PM (xcxpd)

164 "You know who else had a dream?"
*
Van Halen. Fleetwood Mac. Heart. Aerosmith. Roy Orbison.

Also -- Bob Newhart
Posted by: Doof at August 03, 2023

***
Rob Petrie, more than once

Bobby Darin ("Dream Lover")

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 03, 2023 12:26 PM (J2vNu)

165 Are you insinuating that Trumps administration at the highest level was instigating the censoring, like the Biden administration, or that he was being undermined by bureaucrats of the deep state like everyone knows he was? Huge difference, you know
Posted by: OneEyedJack, hack soccer ref at August 03, 2023 12:13 PM (FCbAQ)

Trump? can't see it. Pence? Barr? Meadows?

My point is, we need to be fair, and go after EVERYONE involved in this blatant Anti Rights power grab.

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 03, 2023 12:26 PM (oHd/0)

166 "You know who else had a dream?"

Van Halen. Fleetwood Mac. Heart. Aerosmith. Roy Orbison.

Also -- Bob Newhart
Posted by: Doof at August 03, 2023 12:23 PM (2pH9T)

Well done, Doof!
You have my permission to break your arm patting yourself on the back!

Posted by: OneEyedJack, hack soccer ref at August 03, 2023 12:26 PM (FCbAQ)

167 Shorter version: Biden and the dems conspired to lie to the US people. Biden and the dems conspired to censor what information the US people could receive in violation of the First Amendment. Biden and the dems did it all to obtain and retain power.

Sounds like multiple felonies to me, eh, Jack Smith?

Posted by: LASue at August 03, 2023 12:26 PM (Ed8Zd)

168 It has been noted that under Smith's legal theory, you could prosecute Biden for trying to cancel student loans - he was told that he didn't have the authority to do it, and went ahead and tried to do it anyway.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 03, 2023 12:23 PM (2tUFv)

------------

* DogEater unilaterally implementing DACA has entered the chat *

Posted by: ShainS -- We're Happy Ace's Geriatric Club ... at August 03, 2023 12:26 PM (f6UzA)

169 Forget it, Jake, it's the United States.

Posted by: Gref at August 03, 2023 12:26 PM (AMIL/)

170 At a dealer or a place that positions itself as a high-end service shop, yes. The local RR dealer suggests people bring their cars to my mechanic's shop for services.

you also learn to do things yourself with these cars, and it's usually not that hard. I've replaced all kinds of lights myself! it's sort of fun

and yeah I have my own mechanic do stuff I can't do, he doesn't gauge me. when I take it to the dealer they always push me to get a new one! my oldster is actually in demand esp since it's made it this long without anything horrible happening. I'm in love with it can you tell? I do love it. I know it might get too old soon sadly

Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 03, 2023 12:27 PM (AcWfM)

171 Romeo13 - oh I agree! I have no problem going after the uniparty. No RINO fig leaf protection.

Posted by: Iris at August 03, 2023 12:27 PM (NaH5I)

172 Chicago mayor takes offense to use of word 'mob' to describe a criminal mob

"They are poor, oppressed youths who deserve our compassion and sympathy as they loot a 7-11."
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 03, 2023 12:25 PM (2tUF

But Chicago is not even listed in the top 75 most dangerous cities in America. Neither is NYC or San Francisco. Go figure.

Posted by: polynikes at August 03, 2023 12:27 PM (MNhXM)

173
From observation, it is the nature of social media that a monopoly forms... and then gets tossed away as old and worn out. If facebook wasn't buying up everything that might supplant it, we wouldn't have these monopolies. We'd have ephemeral monopolies, forever being replaced, so long as we actually enforced anti-trust laws and prevented the anti-competitive actions that keep them on top.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 03, 2023 12:24 PM (KUmG1)

Although there's definitely a tolerance for tech monopolies from the government, part of it may be that these different types of platform are not viewed as being competitors in the same line of business by the government. Tik-Tok and Facebook aren't as obviously competition as different oil companies. I don't think we've heard of any instances where the government was considering blocking an acquisition between the social media companies.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 03, 2023 12:28 PM (eYoxG)

174 >>> FaceBook, Google, and Twitter are tolerated monopolies who could and should be broken up or limited by the government...

Know those big fvcker server farms that everyone thinks is NSA?
They are and they also host FaceBook, Google, and Twitter. They are the Government.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at August 03, 2023 12:28 PM (00h5N)

175 >>> 153 Alphabet should not, for example, be permitted to own the biggest search engine AND the biggest ad placement service AND the biggest video sharing site AND ...
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 03, 2023 12:19 PM (GYIa4)
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Alphabet needs to be split into a *lot* of different pieces. First, along line of business (search, ads, video, services like E-Mail or storage, cloud platform, etc.), then where those lines of business themselves represent monopolies (ads, search, video), the new entities need to be further split up.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 03, 2023 12:24 PM (t0OGg)

My current employer recently required us to take a class on How Not to Talk to Those People in That Division, because it could create conflicts of interest or at least the appearance thereof. So why has this division not been required to be spun off...? In fact there was another piece of the business that *was* booted before our merger.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 03, 2023 12:28 PM (llON8)

176 160 EU warns that Russia aims to create new dependencies with cheap grain

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 03, 2023 12:21 PM (2tUFv)

Cheap, plentiful food.

This goes against everything democracy stands for.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 03, 2023 12:25 PM (Gf3mx)

Funny how when Russia shells something in a war zone, its a War Crime... but when Ukraine POISONS people inside Russia... civilians... its AOK!

Note, Russia did not ramp up attacks on the Port, until Ukraine or the US seriously damaged the bridge to Crimea.

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 03, 2023 12:29 PM (oHd/0)

177 My current employer recently required us to take a class on How Not to Talk to Those People in That Division, because it could create conflicts of interest or at least the appearance thereof. So why has this division not been required to be spun off...? In fact there was another piece of the business that *was* booted before our merger.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 03, 2023 12:28 PM (llON

++++
The right bribes were paid.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 03, 2023 12:29 PM (t0OGg)

178 EU warns that Russia aims to create new dependencies with cheap grain

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 03, 2023 12:21 PM (2tUFv)

Cheap, plentiful food.

This goes against everything democracy stands for.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 03, 2023 12:25 PM (Gf3mx)

------------

It's a trap!

Posted by: ShainS -- We're Happy Ace's Geriatric Club ... at August 03, 2023 12:29 PM (f6UzA)

179 * DogEater unilaterally implementing DACA has entered the chat *

Didn't SCOTUS say Trump could NOT undo DACA via EO? even though it was implemented via EO?

What's up with that? SCOTUS needs to be part of the criminal round up too...

Posted by: Iris at August 03, 2023 12:29 PM (NaH5I)

180 Ace, here is the a flaw in your arguments against Instachat, Snapbook and the rest. You say they are a monopoly and should be broken up by the government. The same government you are railing against. How about we just reduce the power and scope of the federal government and get them to leave everyone alone. Then the "monopoly" held by the media companies will also be less consequential.

Posted by: Earl Schlobodowicz at August 03, 2023 12:29 PM (P7Iz+)

181 from inception to where it's ripe to be heard by SCOTUS.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 03, 2023 12:24 PM

For me, from ingestion to where it's ripe to be heard is about 11 hours.

Posted by: Eric Swalwell (D-CA) at August 03, 2023 12:29 PM (a3Q+t)

182 It has been noted that under Smith's legal theory, you could prosecute Biden for trying to cancel student loans - he was told that he didn't have the authority to do it, and went ahead and tried to do it anyway.

"No reasonable prosecutor" for Democrats exception applies.

Posted by: DoJ at August 03, 2023 12:29 PM (1+AJV)

183 Didn't SCOTUS say Trump could NOT undo DACA via EO? even though it was implemented via EO?

What's up with that? SCOTUS needs to be part of the criminal round up too...

Posted by: Iris at August 03, 2023 12:29 PM (NaH5I)

-----------

Indeed, I believe you are correct.

Cognitive Dissonance is not just a river in Egypt ...

Posted by: ShainS -- We're Happy Ace's Geriatric Club ... at August 03, 2023 12:30 PM (f6UzA)

184 Didn't SCOTUS say Trump could NOT undo DACA via EO? even though it was implemented via EO?

What's up with that? SCOTUS needs to be part of the criminal round up too...

Posted by: Iris at August 03, 2023 12:29 PM (NaH5I)

Was it 9-0

Posted by: polynikes at August 03, 2023 12:31 PM (MNhXM)

185 Earl - those monopolies have FU money giving them too much power. Having the government leave them alone doesn't get them to disband on their own.

Posted by: Iris at August 03, 2023 12:31 PM (NaH5I)

186 More proof of the Democrat Party's insurgency against the U.S. Constitution.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 03, 2023 12:31 PM (lf83v)

187 Happen will nothing.

Posted by: ... at August 03, 2023 12:32 PM (/8p10)

188 Was it 9-0
Posted by: polynikes at August 03, 2023 12:31 PM (MNhXM)
++++
From NPR:
In a major rebuke to President Trump, the U.S. Supreme Court has blocked the administration's plan to dismantle an Obama-era program that has protected 700,000 so-called DREAMers from deportation. The vote was 5-4, with Chief Justice John Roberts writing the opinion.

So it went as it usually does.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 03, 2023 12:32 PM (t0OGg)

189 53 Corporate Marxist

The proper term is "fascist".
Posted by: Rob Crawford at August 03, 2023 12:09 PM (Rrhb6)

Yep. It's time to let go of the "Marxist" (or its comrades Communist and Commie) gibe. Not sure why so many conservatives can't seem to quit it. Maybe it's a Boomerism, a holdover from the Cold War era? It just doesn't have the same bite it did maybe 50 years ago. Fascism, on the other hand, stings and stings hard.

What the left is pursuing these days is straight up fascism. You've got corporations working hand in glove with the regime, in exchange for the right to be a monopoly. Big Govt + Big Corp. Like Ace said, the worst of both worlds. True conservatives don't like Big Business, they support free enterprise, which is not what Big Corps want anymore.

The new fascists also support racial and ethnic quotas, segregation, and other ways of dividing us on racial grounds. That's pure fascism, too. The only thing they're missing is nationalism. It's why we should call this new variety "global fascism."

Posted by: Rusty Trawler at August 03, 2023 12:32 PM (1gif2)

190 Was it 9-0

I don't remember unfortunately.

Posted by: Iris at August 03, 2023 12:32 PM (NaH5I)

191 Happen will nothing.
Posted by: ... at August 03, 2023 12:32 PM (/8p10)
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Hmmmmm.
Happen, nothing will.

Posted by: Political Yoda at August 03, 2023 12:32 PM (t0OGg)

192 SCOTUS...

I would have thought that the justices would want to get in on the Fascism now, while the proverbial iron's hot and not wait until they're no longer needed and... well, "retired." Into a ditch.

Seems there's still some small margin for them to throw their perceived weight around and make some decisions that ensure the court survives for a while longer.

Their "use by date" is rapidly approaching.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 03, 2023 12:33 PM (Q4IgG)

193 Chicago mayor takes offense to use of word 'mob' to describe a criminal mob
__________

That's because he's a pussy. And so are the criminals he defends.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 03, 2023 12:33 PM (lf83v)

194 What the left is pursuing these days is straight up fascism. You've got corporations working hand in glove with the regime, in exchange for the right to be a monopoly. Big Govt + Big Corp. Like Ace said, the worst of both worlds. True conservatives don't like Big Business, they support free enterprise, which is not what Big Corps want anymore.

The new fascists also support racial and ethnic quotas, segregation, and other ways of dividing us on racial grounds. That's pure fascism, too. The only thing they're missing is nationalism. It's why we should call this new variety "global fascism."
Posted by: Rusty Trawler at August 03, 2023 12:32 PM (1gif2)

The problem is that people have been trained that only Republicans can be fascists.

So, I suggest "cyberpunk Corporation State"

Discussion?

Posted by: Kindltot at August 03, 2023 12:34 PM (xhaym)

195 This bikini brunette on a board laments the hybridized chimera of the contemporary State/Corporate Complex:
https://is.gd/ppCqwe

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 03, 2023 12:34 PM (t0OGg)

196
EU warns that Russia aims to create new dependencies with cheap grain
Posted by: The ARC of History!

I first read that as cheap gin.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 03, 2023 12:34 PM (63Dwl)

197 I first read that as cheap gin.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 03, 2023 12:34 PM (63Dwl)
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Russia best stay in its own damn lane.

Posted by: England at August 03, 2023 12:35 PM (t0OGg)

198 the power pie is a bigun and when it's served, all the lefties want a seat at the table

I was just listening to Dave Landau's podcast Normal World and he had a real live ex-Mafia guy on. The guy said flat out that they always bribed Democrats because they were universally already corrupt.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 03, 2023 12:35 PM (ZGrMX)

199 Chicago mayor takes offense to use of word 'mob' to describe a criminal mob
__________

Well we can't call them teens forever!

Posted by: OneEyedJack at August 03, 2023 12:35 PM (FCbAQ)

200 NY is Mob

Chicago is Syndicate

Posted by: polynikes at August 03, 2023 12:21 PM (MNhXM)

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Las Vegas is Racket.
_________

And Provincetown is ma---fi--aaaaa!!!!

Posted by: Rainbow Mafia at August 03, 2023 12:36 PM (lf83v)

201 The vote was 5-4, with Chief Justice John Roberts writing the opinion.

So it went as it usually does.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 03, 2023 12:32 PM (t0OGg)

Should any of Trump's trials end with SCOTUS, expect this right here to be the result against him.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 03, 2023 12:36 PM (KbCG3)

202 So it went as it usually does.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 03, 2023 12:32 PM (t0OGg)

Yes I was bing snarky. Roberts second worst illogical opinion. The Las Vegas Church decision the worst.

Posted by: polynikes at August 03, 2023 12:36 PM (MNhXM)

203 Should any of Trump's trials end with SCOTUS, expect this right here to be the result against him.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 03, 2023 12:36 PM (KbCG3)
++++
Likely. Possible is a 7-2 or a 9-0, as the justices want to ensure no risk of court-packing in the future.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 03, 2023 12:37 PM (t0OGg)

204 Note, Russia did not ramp up attacks on the Port, until Ukraine or the US seriously damaged the bridge to Crimea.

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 03, 2023 12:29 PM (oHd/0)

I mean, at this point you have Russia's perspective and Teh Narrative.

Neither side is really a kind, altruistic actor.

As an American, I just think it's important that when you are asked to sacrifice your tax dollars or your children's lives, that you realize you aren't doing so for a just cause.

I feel bad for the 200k dead Ukes that would be drinking vodka with a Ukrainian whore right now if we didn't goad them into proxy war and let them sign a peace treaty.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 03, 2023 12:37 PM (Gf3mx)

205 Yes I was bing snarky.
___________

Bing Snarky > Bing Crosby

Posted by: Rainbow Mafia at August 03, 2023 12:37 PM (lf83v)

206 >>>You know who else had a dream?

---

It was an ordeal for the White House to make its message known. You might say it was their struggle.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at August 03, 2023 12:37 PM (wzAuc)

207 203 Should any of Trump's trials end with SCOTUS, expect this right here to be the result against him.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 03, 2023 12:36 PM (KbCG3)
++++
Likely. Possible is a 7-2 or a 9-0, as the justices want to ensure no risk of court-packing in the future.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 03, 2023 12:37 PM (t0OGg)

Firmly believe two out of three Trump picks will side against him.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 03, 2023 12:38 PM (KbCG3)

208 OT but the transcript of Archer's testimony is out (delete space)

https://www.scribd.com/document/ 662815176/Devon-Archer-Transcript

Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 03, 2023 12:38 PM (AcWfM)

209 As an American, I just think it's important that when you are asked to sacrifice your tax dollars or your children's lives, that you realize you aren't doing so for a just cause.

The story about the Chilean journalist who was imprisoned and beaten by Ukraine for printing the truth certainly makes the dick pianist look bad.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 03, 2023 12:38 PM (ZGrMX)

210 The new fascists also support racial and ethnic quotas, segregation, and other ways of dividing us on racial grounds. That's pure fascism, too. The only thing they're missing is nationalism. It's why we should call this new variety "global fascism."
Posted by: Rusty Trawler at August 03, 2023 12:32 PM (1gif2)

Maybe we should just not call it "fascism" then?

Maybe it just confuses things?

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 03, 2023 12:38 PM (LsETW)

211 195 This bikini brunette on a board laments the hybridized chimera of the contemporary State/Corporate Complex:
https://is.gd/ppCqwe
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 03, 2023 12:34 PM (t0OGg)

Tan and busty

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at August 03, 2023 12:39 PM (xcxpd)

212 If Barack Mugabe has taught us anything in the 10 plus years he has been in the white house, it's that there are no rules.

Except for dumbass republicans.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 03, 2023 12:39 PM (5L/TD)

213 If Barack Mugabe has taught us anything in the 10 plus years he has been in the white house, it's that there are no rules.

Except for dumbass republicans.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 03, 2023 12:39 PM (5L/TD)
++++
The only things guaranteed in life are death, taxes and a flagrantly criminal ruling elite.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 03, 2023 12:40 PM (t0OGg)

214 As Stalin one said "If the person you appointed asks, What To Do? You have appointed the wrong guy" or something like that...

Posted by: Paladin at August 03, 2023 12:40 PM (Qb66T)

215 RNC Research
@RNCResearch

Kamala Harris delivers a word salad to the Mongolian prime minister:

"You and I spoke briefly about the beginning of the next era and, for you, what that means in terms of your leadership and your vision for the future, and certainly strengthening our space cooperation would be a part of that agenda, including, of course, using our space cooperation to think about how we strengthen the economic prosperity and development of our nations"

https://tinyurl.com/2aw2fc64

Posted by: redridinghood at August 03, 2023 12:41 PM (NpAcC)

216 Sorry I’m late!

Posted by: Nancy Mace at August 03, 2023 12:41 PM (xTRSc)

217 you also learn to do things yourself with these cars, and it's usually not that hard. I've replaced all kinds of lights myself! it's sort of fun

and yeah I have my own mechanic do stuff I can't do, he doesn't gauge me. when I take it to the dealer they always push me to get a new one! my oldster is actually in demand esp since it's made it this long without anything horrible happening. I'm in love with it can you tell? I do love it. I know it might get too old soon sadly
Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 03, 2023

***
The older models of Land and Range Rover were tough, the kind of vehicle you'd take on a safari in Africa. (Or maybe that was the Toyota Land Cruiser? Nevertheless, the LR had a good rep.) Modern cars, while more reliable and safer, have so many electronic toys that they are hard for a DIY guy to do things himself.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 03, 2023 12:41 PM (J2vNu)

218 180 Ace, here is the a flaw in your arguments against Instachat, Snapbook and the rest. You say they are a monopoly and should be broken up by the government. The same government you are railing against. How about we just reduce the power and scope of the federal government and get them to leave everyone alone. Then the "monopoly" held by the media companies will also be less consequential.
Posted by: Earl Schlobodowicz at August 03, 2023 12:29 PM (P7Iz+)

You mean, try to do what the last, oh, 100 years of Republicans have tried to do, while the government continued to grow exponentially despite the GOP's efforts to stifle it? Heck, they couldn't even slow the growth rate, let alone shrink anything.

You might as well propose that we bring back Victorian morality, restore the birthrate to greater than replacement rate, and renew the debate over monarchy vs. republic while you're at it. The small-government train left nearly a century ago. Continuing to focus our efforts on that Sisyphean task rather than more realistic, attainable goals leaves us with nothing -- the story of the last century of Republican politics.

Posted by: Rusty Trawler at August 03, 2023 12:41 PM (1gif2)

219 I'll give leftist democrats one thing, they were right about hating the republican party but for the wrong reasons.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at August 03, 2023 12:41 PM (17s+e)

220 Bing Surfboards > Bing Snarky > Bing Crosby

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at August 03, 2023 12:42 PM (AiZBA)

221 It was an ordeal for the White House to make its message known. You might say it was their struggle.
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at August 03, 2023 12:37 PM (wzAuc)

It was even harder after Twitter and facebook decided to simplify the program of censorship set the system up to downgrade any post that discussed vaccines and Covid and accidentally included any White House posts about vaccine and covid too.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 03, 2023 12:42 PM (xhaym)

222 @RNCResearch
Kamala Harris delivers a word salad to the Mongolian prime minister:

"You and I spoke briefly about the beginning of the next era and, for you, what that means in terms of your leadership and your vision for the future, and certainly strengthening our space cooperation would be a part of that agenda, including, of course, using our space cooperation to think about how we strengthen the economic prosperity and development of our nations" ...
Posted by: redridinghood at August 03, 2023 12:41 PM (NpAcC)
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That's more comprehensible than usual.

Except that it appears to be referring to the Mongolian space program, which isn't exactly a world-beater.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 03, 2023 12:42 PM (t0OGg)

223 213 If Barack Mugabe has taught us anything in the 10 plus years he has been in the white house, it's that there are no rules.

Except for dumbass republicans.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 03, 2023 12:39 PM (5L/TD)
++++
The only things guaranteed in life are death, taxes and a flagrantly criminal ruling elite.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 03, 2023 12:40 PM (t0OGg)

At least in the past they'd off each other in duels and wars.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 03, 2023 12:42 PM (eYoxG)

224 Sorry I’m late!
Posted by: Nancy Mace at August 03, 2023 12:41 PM (xTRSc)

***

I'm not

Posted by: Nancy Maces Boyfriends Schvanstucka at August 03, 2023 12:42 PM (flINI)

225 "The Daily Wire and Lahren could "and probably should" sue the federal government and Facebook over the censorship."

I hope both of them do the cha-ching dance after hitting both Biden and Meta.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 03, 2023 12:43 PM (NuTqZ)

226 Well done, Doof!
You have my permission to break your arm patting yourself on the back!
Posted by: OneEyedJack, hack soccer ref at August 03, 2023 12:26 PM (FCbAQ)

Thanks! But I have to be careful patting myself on the back -- can't adversely affect my pickleball game. I am the AOSHQ champion, don't ya know!

Posted by: Doof at August 03, 2023 12:43 PM (2pH9T)

227 215 RNC Research
@RNCResearch

Kamala Harris delivers a word salad to the Mongolian prime minister:

"You and I spoke briefly about the beginning of the next era and, for you, what that means in terms of your leadership and your vision for the future, and certainly strengthening our space cooperation would be a part of that agenda, including, of course, using our space cooperation to think about how we strengthen the economic prosperity and development of our nations"

https://tinyurl.com/2aw2fc64
Posted by: redridinghood at August 03, 2023 12:41 PM (NpAcC)

Theory:

Kamala does not want to be president. She realizes it's a BS position. She continues to clown herself on the world's stage to prevent the powers that be from elevating her and forcing her to endure the rigors of a thoroughly thankless job.

Or, she's a complete tard.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 03, 2023 12:43 PM (KbCG3)

228 Kamala Harris delivers a word salad to the Mongolian prime minister:

"You and I spoke briefly about the beginning of the next era and, for you, what that means in terms of your leadership and your vision for the future, and certainly strengthening our space cooperation would be a part of that agenda, including, of course, using our space cooperation to think about how we strengthen the economic prosperity and development of our nations"

https://tinyurl.com/2aw2fc64
Posted by: redridinghood at August 03, 2023

***
Her "staff" realizes she is not bright, so they explain things to her as they would to a nine-year-old. Unfortunately she turns around and explains it to us adults in the same fashion.

She sounds like a small-town mayor who got elected because nobody else wanted the job.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 03, 2023 12:43 PM (J2vNu)

229 The USSC is an appeals court, so they receive appeals and decide on which ones to review. I could be wrong about this, but that is my understanding.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at August 03, 2023 12:43 PM (MeG8a)

230
Shorter version: Biden and the dems conspired to lie to the US people. Biden and the dems conspired to censor what information the US people could receive in violation of the First Amendment.

Posted by: LASue

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KJP already covered it in the Twitter scandal. "President Biden was doing everything he could to protect the lives of American citizens during a global health crisis" blah blah. This one is easy.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 03, 2023 12:43 PM (lCaJd)

231 Maybe we should just not call it "fascism" then?

Maybe it just confuses things?
Posted by: Thesokorus

The global part is a new version; the previous fascist regimes were not connected to NGOs, 'UN' agencies, world funds, and transnational corps. This is a distinct feature to the current fascist movement.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 03, 2023 12:43 PM (IG4Id)

232 I would add to the law that if any former government employee, who is employed by the censoring company, is involved at any level in a censorship discussion, the company is assumed to have censored and must prove otherwise.

Posted by: Only in PBurg at August 03, 2023 12:43 PM (WHkM7)

233 I hope both of them do the cha-ching dance after hitting both Biden and Meta.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 03, 2023 12:43 PM (NuTqZ)
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LOL.

They'll have "will blog food" signs scrawled on hunks of cardboard after they're cleaned out by the lawyers and the cases wither and die.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 03, 2023 12:43 PM (t0OGg)

234 Bing Cherries >>>>>>Bing Surfboards > Bing Snarky > Bing Crosby

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at August 03, 2023 12:44 PM (flINI)

235 The vote was 5-4, with Chief Justice John Roberts writing the opinion.

So it went as it usually does.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 03, 2023 12:32 PM (t0OGg)

Economically the Corps and Finance always win.

Socially, the Court arranges itself so that the Justice whose preferences are least offensive to the donor classes and the Apparatus casts the deciding vote.

Kennedy now Roberts.

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 03, 2023 12:44 PM (LsETW)

236 Bing Surfboards > Bing Snarky > Bing Crosby
Posted by: Napoleon XIV at August 03, 2023 12:42 PM (AiZBA)

Ahem!

Posted by: Chandler Bing at August 03, 2023 12:44 PM (2pH9T)

237 >>>And since they are commies and such, that means that Chinese kids will only be allowed two hours a day. Gonna cut way into those views and likes and such.

They have a huge problem with their fertility rate. I'm sure they think, correctly, that porn is part of the problem, although I don't know how much gets through their filters.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 03, 2023 12:19 PM (eOEVl)

--

Always stop about harfway. Just being porite.

Posted by: Wei-Hung at August 03, 2023 12:44 PM (wzAuc)

238 I'm reading some douchbag lefty cop will take a mug shot of Trump today. Donald Trump's life is being dragged through the streets like Christopher Stevens dead body after being snatched from his embassy. Armageddon Pissed.

Posted by: I'm Gumby. Damn It! at August 03, 2023 12:45 PM (v0LDu)

239

"Kamala Harris delivers a word salad to the Mongolian prime minister: "

Like one of those Mangolian barbecues where you pile everything into a bowl and cook it.

What a mess.

Are there any intelligent black people left?

Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at August 03, 2023 12:45 PM (UCNv1)

240
Agreed. He's almost 80 years old and has spent his entire life as a politician, with staff doing everything for him. I highly doubt he has any idea how social media works or what it even really is.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes

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What's Facebook's internet number again?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 03, 2023 12:45 PM (lCaJd)

241
Except that it appears to be referring to the Mongolian space program, which isn't exactly a world-beater.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 03, 2023

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The Mongolian space program? Next they'll insist that one of the moons of Jupiter be renamed "Genghis."

(Mongolian beef >>>> Mongolian space program)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 03, 2023 12:45 PM (J2vNu)

242 (((He believes that The Daily Wire and Lahren could "and probably should" sue the federal government and Facebook over the censorship.)))

____________________

Yeah, Ok. Government pays it off with tax dollars. Facebook gets a bail out (which they technically have been getting all along since the Feds were subsidizing their actions to the tune of millions). Nope...lawsuits are toothless on both entities. Criminal sentences on the other hand are more acceptable to me....once someone gets in and clears out the riff raff in the DOJ (which is unlikely).

Carry on.

Posted by: Orson at August 03, 2023 12:46 PM (dIske)

243 directly comparing Covid vaccines to asbestos poisoning

asbestos was 100% effective in its use.

The problem, of course, is the side effects that it causes when people inhale it.

This makes it more useful then the clot shot which does NOTHING to "stop the spread"

Posted by: 18-1 at August 03, 2023 12:46 PM (lc5cP)

244 She sounds like a small-town mayor who got elected because nobody else wanted the job.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

I've seen Golden Retrievers mayor better.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 03, 2023 12:46 PM (Cn8Ag)

245 AlGoreithms.. sorry, could not resist..

Posted by: tubal at August 03, 2023 12:47 PM (PCK5/)

246 The global part is a new version; the previous fascist regimes were not connected to NGOs, 'UN' agencies, world funds, and transnational corps. This is a distinct feature to the current fascist movement.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 03, 2023 12:43 PM (IG4Id

Why change the definition of "fascism"?

Serious question.

Because the actual historical fascists were anti-globalist.

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 03, 2023 12:47 PM (LsETW)

247 208 OT but the transcript of Archer's testimony is out (delete space)

https://www.scribd.com/document/ 662815176/Devon-Archer-Transcript
Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 03, 2023 12:38

Thanks for posting the link!

Posted by: CaliGirl at August 03, 2023 12:47 PM (o2Hdx)

248 Speaking of controlling the COVID narrative...COVID numbers are up! Another wave will hit us soon. COVID will never be "over", at least not until science progresses to cure/eradicate highly contagious respiratory viruses like COVID, the Flu, RSV etc.

just got two boxes of masks for fall - I hear its going to be the hot accessory of the season.

Look into a P100 mask. They're superior and cost roughly $35 dollars.

I got my latest booster in May. Should be good for 6-8 months.

I got my booster in January and got covid in Mar for the first time. 😔

I'm sure you've heard it before, the shot isn’t for immunity, but to improve your chances to avoid Long Covid or worse.

There's no current or valid claim that vaccinations prevent infection. The early claims that vaccination would prevent infection were overstating the case.

I'll keep masking until medical science provides a solution to ending this crap. If I am going to die I would prefer it to be because of natural causes and not because of some ahole redneck anti-vaxxer maskhole.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at August 03, 2023 12:47 PM (1+AJV)

249 194 What the left is pursuing these days is straight up fascism. You've got corporations working hand in glove with the regime, in exchange for the right to be a monopoly. Big Govt + Big Corp. Like Ace said, the worst of both worlds. True conservatives don't like Big Business, they support free enterprise, which is not what Big Corps want anymore.

Posted by: Rusty Trawler at August 03, 2023 12:32 PM (1gif2)

The problem is that people have been trained that only Republicans can be fascists.

So, I suggest "cyberpunk Corporation State"

Discussion?
Posted by: Kindltot at August 03, 2023 12:34 PM (xhaym)

That just rolls off the tongue. Plus, it sounds way cooler than the reality. Heck, half the people here would support that. There's nothing "punk" about a totalitarian regime that is trying to stamping out all dissent.

"The problem is that people have been trained that only Republicans can be fascists."

Precisely why that narrative needs to be disrupted by calling the new left fascists. What argument is better to have, whether communism or fascism is preferable (the framing the left wants) or who are the real fascists, the left or the right?

Posted by: Rusty Trawler at August 03, 2023 12:47 PM (1gif2)

250 This bikini brunette on a board laments the hybridized chimera of the contemporary State/Corporate Complex:
https://is.gd/ppCqwe
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 03, 2023 12:34 PM (t0OGg)

Good Heavens, is that a Martello Tower I see on the rocky point behind her?

Posted by: Kindltot at August 03, 2023 12:47 PM (xhaym)

251 Mongolian Throat Singing >>>>>>Mongolian beef >>>> Mongolian space program

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at August 03, 2023 12:48 PM (flINI)

252 She sounds like a small-town mayor who got elected because nobody else wanted the job.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

Don't try that

Posted by: Jason Aldean at August 03, 2023 12:48 PM (2pH9T)

253 15 USC 1 makes all conspiracies in restraint of trade illegal felonies. 15 USC 15 allows treble damage lawsuits (plus lawyers fees) against people who violate 15 USC 1.

When you have a web business and the US Gov and Facebook conspire to restrain your trade by censoring you that is a 15 USC 1 Violation.

Time to fight back.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at August 03, 2023 12:48 PM (CecP5)

254 248 I'm sure you've heard it before, the shot isn’t for immunity, but to improve your chances to avoid Long Covid or worse.

There's no current or valid claim that vaccinations prevent infection. The early claims that vaccination would prevent infection were overstating the case.

I'll keep masking until medical science provides a solution to ending this crap. If I am going to die I would prefer it to be because of natural causes and not because of some ahole redneck anti-vaxxer maskhole.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at August 03, 2023 12:47 PM (1+AJV)

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I remember when Trump was the devil because we weren't testing enough. Is Biden the devil because we aren't testing all that much anymore?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 03, 2023 12:48 PM (LvTSG)

255 And another point in all this.

The government was censoring true and correct information they *knew* to be true and correct.

And in doing so they murdered tens of thousands of people.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 03, 2023 12:48 PM (lc5cP)

256 Badda bing badda boom

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 03, 2023 12:48 PM (xTRSc)

257 Facebook had a problem with a lot of conservative news stuff that other search engines had scrubbed or buried (Google, Yahoo) actually archived on FB. For a while there when I couldn't find something I knew used to be there but wasn't.....search for it on FB.

Posted by: JROD at August 03, 2023 12:48 PM (IlL6s)

258 It was here that someone postulated that Kamala is baked every time she's speaking in public. She talks exactly like a stoned 15 year old.

I will entertain the probability that she's also stupid as shit.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 03, 2023 12:48 PM (Q4IgG)

259 I'm sure you've heard it before, the shot isn’t for immunity,

THEN IT'S NOT A VACCINE!!!

Posted by: rickb223 at August 03, 2023 12:48 PM (Cn8Ag)

260
I'm reading some douchbag lefty cop will take a mug shot of Trump today.

Posted by: I'm Gumby. Damn It!

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I hope Trump gives them a huge grin and a thumbs-up in the photo.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 03, 2023 12:49 PM (lCaJd)

261 259 I'm sure you've heard it before, the shot isn’t for immunity,

THEN IT'S NOT A VACCINE!!!
Posted by: rickb223 at August 03, 2023 12:48 PM (Cn8Ag)

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You heard 'em. It's to prevent long covid, a claim I've never, ever heard before that report from the DU. Not once.

But it's just known.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 03, 2023 12:49 PM (LvTSG)

262 it's weird - does the Left not care that its adherents are going to die/be disabled by their intense belief in mRNA shots?

I guess not!

Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 03, 2023 12:49 PM (AcWfM)

263 260
I'm reading some douchbag lefty cop will take a mug shot of Trump today.

Posted by: I'm Gumby. Damn It!

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I hope Trump gives them a huge grin and a thumbs-up in the photo.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 03, 2023 12:49 PM (lCaJd)

Sinatra's mug shot will soon have competition for highest selling mug shot poster.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 03, 2023 12:50 PM (KbCG3)

264 I'm reading some douchbag lefty cop will take a mug shot of Trump today.

no mugshot today, just digital thumbprint or something

someone must have let them know he'd make hay with a mug shot

Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 03, 2023 12:50 PM (AcWfM)

265
I'm sure you've heard it before, the shot isn’t for immunity, but to improve your chances to avoid Long Covid or worse.

Funny in 2021 "the science was settled" that the clot shot was the ONLY way to stop the spread. Not only was the government censoring people for saying the opposite, a majority of democrats wanted to censor people saying so to a concentration camp.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 03, 2023 12:50 PM (lc5cP)

266 it's weird - does the Left not care that its adherents are going to die/be disabled by their intense belief in mRNA shots?

I guess not!
Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 03, 2023 12:49 PM (AcWfM

The Devil always always breaks his tools.

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 03, 2023 12:50 PM (LsETW)

267 262 it's weird - does the Left not care that its adherents are going to die/be disabled by their intense belief in mRNA shots?

I guess not!
Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 03, 2023 12:49 PM (AcWfM)

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The left is also the political side of things that is actively trying to cut off its next generations' dicks. Listen, if I told you that the left was being led by undercover righties out to eliminate the left through self-imposed genocide, how would we tell the difference?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 03, 2023 12:51 PM (LvTSG)

268
She sounds like a small-town mayor who got elected because nobody else wanted the job.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
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This is about me, isn't it?

Posted by: Pete Butterjug at August 03, 2023 12:51 PM (VG0cN)

269 265
I'm sure you've heard it before, the shot isn’t for immunity, but to improve your chances to avoid Long Covid or worse.

Funny in 2021 "the science was settled" that the clot shot was the ONLY way to stop the spread. Not only was the government censoring people for saying the opposite, a majority of democrats wanted to censor people saying so to a concentration camp.
Posted by: 18-1 at August 03, 2023 12:50 PM (lc5cP)

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And a good number of "good" Republicans.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 03, 2023 12:51 PM (LvTSG)

270 it's weird - does the Left not care that its adherents are going to die/be disabled by their intense belief in mRNA shots?

Most of the inner party members didn't get an active clot shot. Its very easy to render it inert by letting it "warm" too long.

For normal lefties? That's a more interesting question.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 03, 2023 12:51 PM (lc5cP)

271
Anyway, there's a high-level leaker at Facebook. That's good news.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 03, 2023 12:51 PM (lCaJd)

272 Because the actual historical fascists were anti-globalist.
Posted by: Thesokorus

You're welcome to come up with a better word, but you're not going to come up with one that the majority will understand.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 03, 2023 12:51 PM (IG4Id)

273 You heard 'em. It's to prevent long covid, a claim I've never, ever heard before that report from the DU. Not once.

But it's just known.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 03, 2023 12:49 PM (LvTSG)

Can someone smarter than me explain if that's even scientifically possible? The "vax" is beaten by the virus initially but then the vax rallies and ensures it doesn't stay too long?

The vax is basically the owner of an Air BnB.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 03, 2023 12:52 PM (KbCG3)

274 261 259 I'm sure you've heard it before, the shot isn’t for immunity,

THEN IT'S NOT A VACCINE!!!
Posted by: rickb223 at August 03, 2023 12:48 PM (Cn8Ag)

Careful now. Heresy like that could get you a bannin'.

Posted by: Trust in SCIENCE! at August 03, 2023 12:52 PM (q1Zxb)

275 272 Because the actual historical fascists were anti-globalist.
Posted by: Thesokorus

You're welcome to come up with a better word, but you're not going to come up with one that the majority will understand.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 03, 2023 12:51 PM (IG4Id)

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National socialism vs. International socialism.

Collectivists who use Marxist ideology as an excuse to grab power and never let go.

Whatever.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 03, 2023 12:52 PM (LvTSG)

276 246 The global part is a new version; the previous fascist regimes were not connected to NGOs, 'UN' agencies, world funds, and transnational corps. This is a distinct feature to the current fascist movement.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 03, 2023 12:43 PM (IG4Id

Why change the definition of "fascism"?

Serious question.

Because the actual historical fascists were anti-globalist.
Posted by: Thesokorus at August 03, 2023 12:47 PM (LsETW)

It's a stretch to call the historical fascists anti-globalist. They did kind of have a vision of global fascism with a bunch of allied fascist(or close to it) empires and spread the ideology internationally.

The UN thing is just a US invented model.

The USSR was distinguished by being more centralized in Russia. In that sense, they were imperialist, the fascists believed in confederation or alliance blocs, and the US innovated globalism.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 03, 2023 12:52 PM (eYoxG)

277 A fair percentage of lefties I know seem to believe the world is doomed anyway and there is no point in trying to "sustain" anything.

Its like what they accuse Christians of...but in their case real.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 03, 2023 12:52 PM (lc5cP)

278 You're welcome to come up with a better word, but you're not going to come up with one that the majority will understand.

fuckheads

does that work?

Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 03, 2023 12:52 PM (AcWfM)

279
265
I'm sure you've heard it before, the shot isn’t for immunity, but to improve your chances to avoid Long Covid or worse.

Funny in 2021 "the science was settled" that the clot shot was the ONLY way to stop the spread. Not only was the government censoring people for saying the opposite, a majority of democrats wanted to censor people saying so to a concentration camp.
Posted by: 18-1 at August 03, 2023 12:50 PM (lc5cP)

2 weeks To Stop the Spread was also a popular tune the year before as I recall…

Posted by: tubal at August 03, 2023 12:53 PM (PCK5/)

280 There's no current or valid claim that vaccinations prevent infection. The early claims that vaccination would prevent infection were overstating the case.

Thank God I've never had anyone spout that garbage to me, because it would take all my strength to keep from punching their fucking teeth down their throats.

"Overstating the case?" Your precious Fauci insisted the clot shot would stop the Kung Flu and people like me were publicly shamed, insulted and threatened with incarceration for doubting.

Goddamn, but I hate democrats.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 03, 2023 12:53 PM (AW0uW)

281 The Biden Crime and Incest Family

Posted by: wth at August 03, 2023 12:53 PM (v0R5T)

282 I'm sure you've heard it before, the shot isn’t for immunity, but to improve your chances to avoid Long Covid or worse.

Funny in 2021 "the science was settled" that the clot shot was the ONLY way to stop the spread. Not only was the government censoring people for saying the opposite, a majority of democrats wanted to censor people saying so to a concentration camp.
Posted by: 18-1 at August 03, 2023 12:50 PM (lc5cP)

It was initially developed as a cancer therapy, where it was found to be too toxic to use long term. It is clearly a technology looking for a use outside of its only real use. It is a bioweapon.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 03, 2023 12:53 PM (xhaym)

283 You're welcome to come up with a better word, but you're not going to come up with one that the majority will understand.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 03, 2023 12:51 PM (IG4Id

Cabal

DJT is kinda good with words and he uses that.

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 03, 2023 12:53 PM (LsETW)

284 This bikini brunette on a board laments the hybridized chimera of the contemporary State/Corporate Complex:
https://is.gd/ppCqwe
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 03, 2023
*
Good Heavens, is that a Martello Tower I see on the rocky point behind her?
Posted by: Kindltot at August 03, 2023

***
Is *that* what you noticed first in the pic?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 03, 2023 12:53 PM (J2vNu)

285 So the one sided war is on

Posted by: Skip at August 03, 2023 12:54 PM (JglZ8)

286 246 The global part is a new version; the previous fascist regimes were not connected to NGOs, 'UN' agencies, world funds, and transnational corps. This is a distinct feature to the current fascist movement.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 03, 2023 12:43 PM (IG4Id

Why change the definition of "fascism"?

Serious question.

Because the actual historical fascists were anti-globalist.
Posted by: Thesokorus at August 03, 2023 12:47 PM (LsETW)

Because virtually every other part of the definition of "fascist" applies to the new left. The only part that doesn't is the global vs. national part. This is why it's a new variety of fascism. We do this with terminology all the time. Marxism itself has more than a dozen varieties -- classic Marxism, Trotskyism, Stalinism, cultural Marxism, Leninism, etc., etc.

Besides, it drives the left bananas. Let them try to explain why their policies aren't fascist.

Posted by: Rusty Trawler at August 03, 2023 12:54 PM (1gif2)

287 If the government had done nothing about COVID, literally nothing - like it did with previous cases of "bad flu" fewer people would have died.

And if it had simply told people to exercise, get sunlight, and take vit D it would have saved thousands.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 03, 2023 12:54 PM (lc5cP)

288 I'd like to see some jawboning, Samson-style on those deep-state assholes.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 03, 2023 12:54 PM (ynpvh)

289 258 It was here that someone postulated that Kamala is baked every time she's speaking in public. She talks exactly like a stoned 15 year old.

I will entertain the probability that she's also stupid as shit.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 03, 2023

I have a friend that's a lobbyist in Sacramento and he said in person she doesn't seem that stupid and he thinks she's on something when she gives those word salad speeches. He also told me she's a big fan of intermittent fasting, never eats anything after 4 pm, or so she claims.

Posted by: CaliGirl at August 03, 2023 12:55 PM (o2Hdx)

290 A fair percentage of lefties I know seem to believe the world is doomed anyway and there is no point in trying to "sustain" anything.

Its like what they accuse Christians of...but in their case real.
Posted by: 18-1 at August 03, 2023 12:52 PM (lc5cP)
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At least Christians can look forward to spending eternity bathed in the glory of God and Jesus.

Leftists have nothing to look forward to--just endless oblivion.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 03, 2023 12:55 PM (BpYfr)

291 The Biden Crime and Incest Family
Posted by: wth

With Hunter being as screwed up as he obviously is, I begin to strongly suspect he was abused in some way as a child or adolescent.

Posted by: Barnacle Bill the sailor at August 03, 2023 12:55 PM (vcOmj)

292 >>> Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at August 03, 2023 12:47 PM (1+AJV)

Dumbass Underground, amirite?

Posted by: DJ at August 03, 2023 12:56 PM (uosPt)

293 Kamala does not want to be president. She realizes it's a BS position. She continues to clown herself on the world's stage to prevent the powers that be from elevating her and forcing her to endure the rigors of a thoroughly thankless job.

Or, she's a complete tard.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 03, 2023 12:43 PM (KbCG3)
***

She's angling for a full time slot on Saturday Night Live.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 03, 2023 12:56 PM (e4fEA)

294 Consent decrees and private settlements are undediscussed in this matter. We bemoan consent decrees forces on police departments on the grounds of racial equity. You are nuts if you think this isn't happening with the social networks in private settlements that aren't disclosed to the general public. Some regulatory entity will come in, find ticky tack violations (which are present in every business) and see them used to enforce provisions about moderating content. We see this in the EPA and the DOJ and while most are harmless, they can and are used to justify onerous burdens on the socials to regulate posts under the guise of public safety.

Posted by: bskb at August 03, 2023 12:56 PM (8RztZ)

295 ...Feels like they are prepping it to eventually go to SCOTUS
that or they just don’t have any other excuse. The speech bit was completely refuted by several legal commentators (CNN and MSNBC). Trump went from speech to action.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions

CalvinBall Rules some say.
More like Pokémon by fetal alcohol syndrome kids who made DA.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at August 03, 2023 12:56 PM (00h5N)

296 >>> She's angling for a full time slot on Saturday Night Live.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 03, 2023 12:56 PM (e4fEA)

She's too unintentionally funny.

Posted by: DJ at August 03, 2023 12:57 PM (uosPt)

297 AB had growth in the only market that really matters to any American company

The world's largest brewer reported earnings for the second quarter that gained more than 20% in Brazil, China, and Colombia, which offset a massive 28% plunge in the US market. AB InBev maintained its profit guidance for the year.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 03, 2023 12:57 PM (slgIg)

298 295 ...Feels like they are prepping it to eventually go to SCOTUS
that or they just don’t have any other excuse. The speech bit was completely refuted by several legal commentators (CNN and MSNBC). Trump went from speech to action.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions

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What action? Trying to steal the car from the Secret Service?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 03, 2023 12:57 PM (LvTSG)

299 Ooh, I've received a "private text message from President Trump." I'll be back ad soon as I block it.

Remember to send more money to SendMoneyNow.com

Posted by: JM in Florida -- now in IllinoisI at August 03, 2023 12:57 PM (JTjxK)

300 Is *that* what you noticed first in the pic?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 03, 2023 12:53 PM (J2vNu)

Well, it was nicely composed and balanced too, with the eyepath going through a pretty good golden spiral from the outstanding breasts through the face, to the board and legs, to the headlands to the tower and to the sky, and the juxtaposition of jagged rock and the smooth tower against the pillowy woman.

And no, it was the third thing I noticed.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 03, 2023 12:57 PM (xhaym)

301 297 The world's largest brewer reported earnings for the second quarter that gained more than 20% in Brazil, China, and Colombia, which offset a massive 28% plunge in the US market. AB InBev maintained its profit guidance for the year.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 03, 2023 12:57 PM (slgIg)

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I'm guessing Brazil, China, and Columbia get less woke marketing than America.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 03, 2023 12:58 PM (LvTSG)

302 She's angling for a full time slot on Saturday Night Live.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 03, 2023 12:56 PM (e4fEA)

She's too unintentionally funny.
Posted by: DJ at August 03, 2023 12:57 PM (uosPt)
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Exactly!
And SNL hasn't been intentionally funny in years. It'll be a new look for them.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 03, 2023 12:58 PM (e4fEA)

303 Cabal

DJT is kinda good with words and he uses that.
Posted by: Thesokorus at August 03, 2023 12:53 PM (LsETW)

Cartels

Posted by: Kindltot at August 03, 2023 12:58 PM (xhaym)

304 295 ...Feels like they are prepping it to eventually go to SCOTUS
that or they just don’t have any other excuse. The speech bit was completely refuted by several legal commentators (CNN and MSNBC). Trump went from speech to action.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions

CalvinBall Rules some say.
More like Pokémon by fetal alcohol syndrome kids who made DA.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at August 03, 2023 12:56 PM (00h5N)

Because everybody knows that saying "Go Home" and "be peaceful" are really calls to go the to Capitol and be violent, even though the violence at the Capitol was almost entirely from the police, infiltrators, and gov't agents.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 03, 2023 12:58 PM (ynpvh)

305 The most offensive notion in America is the lie that there can ever be such a thing as "good government."

Free people understand it is a necessary evil.

Slavers say it--theirs--is a good.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 03, 2023 12:58 PM (ZFZoe)

306 It's a stretch to call the historical fascists anti-globalist. They did kind of have a vision of global fascism with a bunch of allied fascist(or close to it) empires and spread the ideology internationally.

The UN thing is just a US invented model.

The USSR was distinguished by being more centralized in Russia. In that sense, they were imperialist, the fascists believed in confederation or alliance blocs, and the US innovated globalism.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 03, 2023 12:52 PM (eYoxG)

Yeah look. I am not stupid or ignorant just likely insane or autistic.

I too can construct an argument for any given historical moment being "fascist".

It would be as silly yours though.

Not that you are silly. But, "global fascism" is very silly.

And so is "alliances are really just globalism".

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 03, 2023 12:59 PM (LsETW)

307 Because virtually every other part of the definition of "fascist" applies to the new left. The only part that doesn't is the global vs. national part. This is why it's a new variety of fascism. We do this with terminology all the time. Marxism itself has more than a dozen varieties -- classic Marxism, Trotskyism, Stalinism, cultural Marxism, Leninism, etc., etc.

Besides, it drives the left bananas. Let them try to explain why their policies aren't fascist.
Posted by: Rusty Trawler

Everyone expect "fascism" to show up in jack boots, snappy HUGO BOSS uniforms, and a lot of goose-stepping and swastikas.

Fascism is here, and it shows up in a polo shirt and khakis, from the local, state and federal government, telling you what your business can and cannot do.
It shows up in tax compliance consultants and other stuff.
It shows up in all manner of things. How you build new buildings (the EPA has a big say in that). How you remodel old building. What you can do on your own land.

Posted by: Barnacle Bill the sailor at August 03, 2023 12:59 PM (vcOmj)

308 304 Because everybody knows that saying "Go Home" and "be peaceful" are really calls to go the to Capitol and be violent, even though the violence at the Capitol was almost entirely from the police, infiltrators, and gov't agents.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 03, 2023 12:58 PM (ynpvh)

========

"Not one member of that crowd was affiliated in any way with the government. ~~The Man~~ Chris Wray told me so."
-The lefty who hates the Man

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 03, 2023 12:59 PM (LvTSG)

309 Cartels
Posted by: Kindltot at August 03, 2023 12:58 PM (xhaym)

Yeah. That's fine. Subtly different but fine.

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 03, 2023 01:00 PM (LsETW)

310 of jagged rock and the smooth tower against the pillowy woman

Her bikini goes well with her skin tone, even though it was unnecessary.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at August 03, 2023 01:00 PM (ufFY8)

311 She sounds like a small-town mayor who got elected because nobody else wanted the job.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
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This is about me, isn't it?
Posted by: Pete Butterjug at August 03, 2023

***
I was thinking Mayberry. Or Hooterville.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 03, 2023 01:00 PM (J2vNu)

312 Facebook - for acquaintances (most, if not all, "mature" democrats & C19 believers) who spy on their acquaintances' family matters & vote by mail.

Community sales, death notices and high school reunions are of particular interest, along with ambulance and police reports related to the 'old' neighborhood.

Their opinions won't change, neither will ours.

Posted by: L - Practice makes perfect. They know their enemy at August 03, 2023 01:01 PM (GshMh)

313 From ONT:

Trump is a berserker when he campaigns. When he presides, different story. If you can just control your stomach during the campaign and get to Trump II in 2025, things will smooth out.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia

Then he should expect to NOT be treated with kid gloves during the campaign. Don't give it if you can't take it.
If he calls other candidates liars, expect to be called a liar. If a campaign is getting dirty, then he should expect to be done to the same.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 03, 2023 01:02 PM (ynpvh)

314 OK, I'm just gonna come out and say it.
I'm kinda digging the popup bra ads that Ace has going on here.
Not Mannix quality, but nice none-the-less.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 03, 2023 01:02 PM (e4fEA)

315 Modern usage of jawbone is in the sense of "persuasion", but there is also the Biblical usage, as when Samson slew 1,000 Philistines.

"And he found a new jawbone of an ass, and put forth his hand, and took it, and slew a thousand men therewith." /Judges 15:15

More coercive than persuasive.

Posted by: Muldoon, not quite sure how this meme works at August 03, 2023 01:02 PM (l4B/J)

316
Most people will never hear about it, those who do will either not care or say "good, social media should be censoring misinformation".
Posted by: Harry Paratestes

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KJP fully acknowledged it and said censoring COVID info and mal-opinions was a good thing.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 03, 2023 01:02 PM (lCaJd)

317 This bikini brunette on a board laments the hybridized chimera of the contemporary State/Corporate Complex:
https://is.gd/ppCqwe
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 03, 2023
*
Good Heavens, is that a Martello Tower I see on the rocky point behind her?
Posted by: Kindltot at August 03, 2023

***
Is *that* what you noticed first in the pic?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 03, 2023 12:53 PM

For a group that almost always finds the sniper in the Art Thread, no one noticed Otter 841 approaching in this one.

It's like I don't even know you people anymore.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 03, 2023 01:03 PM (a3Q+t)

318 National socialism vs. International socialism.

Collectivists who use Marxist ideology as an excuse to grab power and never let go.

Whatever.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Never was that distinction. Ask France and Poland if they think the NAZIs were 'national.' Stalin flipped back and forth on punishing 'nationals'.

The only difference between the two was the fascists knew who should do the farming.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 03, 2023 01:04 PM (IG4Id)

319 The Bible will at times use hyperbole to make a point, true?

Posted by: tubal at August 03, 2023 01:04 PM (PCK5/)

320
Not that you are silly. But, "global fascism" is very silly.

And so is "alliances are really just globalism".
Posted by: Thesokorus at August 03, 2023 12:59 PM (LsETW)

There's a difference between alliances of convenience (such as the relation with the USSR) and spreading an ideology intentionally to structure similar governments globally.

Why do the fascists want there to be an Arab empire to be pals with?

They believed and acted on the belief of spreading fascism in other nations and empires, even if intuitively there is seemingly no benefit in doing so. Arguably it seems to recreate the pre-WW1 state of Europe being at peace but divided into several empires.

US globalism at any rate didn't exist to be anti-globablist about.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 03, 2023 01:04 PM (eYoxG)

321 K, I'm just gonna come out and say it.
I'm kinda digging the popup bra ads that Ace has going on here.
Not Mannix quality, but nice none-the-less.
Posted by: Diogenes at August 03, 2023 01:02 PM (e4fEA)
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Sadly, "popup" does not mean 3D in this context...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 03, 2023 01:04 PM (BpYfr)

322 Modern usage of jawbone is in the sense of "persuasion", but there is also the Biblical usage, as when Samson slew 1,000 Philistines.

"And he found a new jawbone of an ass, and put forth his hand, and took it, and slew a thousand men therewith." /Judges 15:15

More coercive than persuasive.
Posted by: Muldoon, not quite sure how this meme works at August 03, 2023 01:02 PM (l4B/J)

I'm thinking that 1001 guy was persuaded.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 03, 2023 01:05 PM (e4fEA)

323 He also told me she's a big fan of intermittent fasting,
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What sort of hairy freak does that??

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at August 03, 2023 01:05 PM (krqg6)

324 Direct D on utube put out a video of the really bad shooting of a guy in Mesa AZ in 2017.

Never heard the story, cop got away with it.
Mesa paid around $9m in two settlements.

Shaver was the victim's name.

Just another data point in our new fascism.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at August 03, 2023 01:05 PM (ufFY8)

325 I was thinking Mayberry. Or Hooterville.

Paul Ford as Mayor Shinn of River City, Iowa in The Music Man.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 03, 2023 01:06 PM (xTRSc)

326
Then he should expect to NOT be treated with kid gloves during the campaign. Don't give it if you can't take it.
If he calls other candidates liars, expect to be called a liar. If a campaign is getting dirty, then he should expect to be done to the same.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

============

He probably does expect all that.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 03, 2023 01:06 PM (lCaJd)

327 Sadly, "popup" does not mean 3D in this context...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 03, 2023 01:04 PM (BpYfr)

Nor at my age...

Posted by: Diogenes at August 03, 2023 01:06 PM (e4fEA)

328 The generation that cheered Ellsberg wrought this. Astounding how quickly this whole Liberty thing is disappearing.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at August 03, 2023 01:06 PM (rH1KZ)

329 For a group that almost always finds the sniper in the Art Thread, no one noticed Otter 841 approaching in this one.

It's like I don't even know you people anymore.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 03, 2023 01:03 PM (a3Q+t)

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Was doing a crossword puzzle last night and the clue was:

Parliament : owls :: raft : ___

It was a five letter word and I just guessed "otter" (thanks to nurse ratched and this place), and indeed it was correct.

Posted by: ShainS -- We're Happy Ace's Geriatric Club ... at August 03, 2023 01:07 PM (f6UzA)

330 Take my wife. Please.

Posted by: David French at August 03, 2023 01:07 PM (WJECB)

331 322 Modern usage of jawbone is in the sense of "persuasion", but there is also the Biblical usage, as when Samson slew 1,000 Philistines.

"And he found a new jawbone of an ass, and put forth his hand, and took it, and slew a thousand men therewith." /Judges 15:15

More coercive than persuasive.
Posted by: Muldoon, not quite sure how this meme works at August 03, 2023 01:02 PM (l4B/J)

I'm thinking that 1001 guy was persuaded.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 03, 2023 01:05 PM (e4fEA)

Indeed. The thousands and thousands of Philistines NOT jawboned understood. It's as if we had Pennsylvania avenue lined with Deep State traitors piked as a warning to others what the penalty of fucking with our rights would be.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 03, 2023 01:07 PM (ynpvh)

332 For a group that almost always finds the sniper in the Art Thread, no one noticed Otter 841 approaching in this one.

Otter 841>>>sniper

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at August 03, 2023 01:07 PM (ufFY8)

333
I'm sure you've heard it before, the shot isn’t for immunity, but to improve your chances to avoid Long Covid or worse.

What's worse than Long Covid? Deep Covid?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 03, 2023 01:07 PM (63Dwl)

334 It has been noted that under Smith's legal theory, you could prosecute Biden for trying to cancel student loans - he was told that he didn't have the authority to do it, and went ahead and tried to do it anyway.
Posted by: The ARC of History

Using Smith's Non-Euclidian Geometric logic that would make Biden guilty of running a pre-school prostitution ring as a tax shelter.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at August 03, 2023 01:07 PM (00h5N)

335 What about the assbone of a jaw?

Posted by: Jon Carry at August 03, 2023 01:07 PM (Xrfse)

336 It was a five letter word and I just guessed "otter" (thanks to nurse ratched and this place), and indeed it was correct.

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Correction: six-letter word (plural) "otters."

Posted by: ShainS -- We're Happy Ace's Geriatric Club ... at August 03, 2023 01:08 PM (f6UzA)

337 "And he found a new jawbone of an ass, and put forth his hand, and took it, and slew a thousand men therewith." /Judges 15:15
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They had some quality jawbones back then. How many jawbones these days could stand up to slaying ten men, let alone a thousand?

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at August 03, 2023 01:08 PM (ScR16)

338 AB InBev maintained its profit guidance for the year.

********

What does that even mean? Met sales projections? Did as well as they had hoped? Does anyone have a Bevspeak-English translator?

Posted by: Muldoon, not quite sure how this meme works at August 03, 2023 01:09 PM (l4B/J)

339 when Samson slew 1,000 Philistines.

At 10 seconds per Philistine, that's 2.78 hours, without a break. Did Union rules permit that?

Posted by: Wesley Crusher at August 03, 2023 01:09 PM (a3Q+t)

340
OT but the transcript of Archer's testimony is out (delete space)

https://www.scribd.com/document/ 662815176/Devon-Archer-Transcript
Posted by: BlackOrchid

===============

When does the committee subpoena Hunter? Serious question.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 03, 2023 01:09 PM (lCaJd)

341 Using Smith's Non-Euclidian Geometric logic that would make Biden guilty of running a pre-school prostitution ring as a tax shelter.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at August 03, 2023 01:07 PM (00h5N)
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Are we sure that he hasn't done that? How many shell corporations have the Bidens set up to shield their shady wheeling and dealing?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 03, 2023 01:09 PM (BpYfr)

342 333
I'm sure you've heard it before, the shot isn’t for immunity, but to improve your chances to avoid Long Covid or worse.

What's worse than Long Covid? Deep Covid?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 03, 2023 01:07 PM (63Dwl)

Cardiac Covid

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 03, 2023 01:09 PM (ynpvh)

343 Parliament : owls :: raft : ___
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It wasn't "whore"???

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at August 03, 2023 01:09 PM (krqg6)

344 335 What about the assbone of a jaw?

Posted by: Jon Carry at August 03, 2023 01:07 PM (Xrfse)

Only found in gay bath houses.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 03, 2023 01:10 PM (ynpvh)

345 I'm sure you've heard it before, the shot isn’t for immunity, but to improve your chances to avoid Long Covid or worse.

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They had to change the historical definition of "vaccine" twice to reconcile this in their pathetic pea "expert" diseased brains.

Posted by: ShainS -- We're Happy Ace's Geriatric Club ... at August 03, 2023 01:10 PM (f6UzA)

346 "whores"

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at August 03, 2023 01:10 PM (krqg6)

347 341 Using Smith's Non-Euclidian Geometric logic that would make Biden guilty of running a pre-school prostitution ring as a tax shelter.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at August 03, 2023 01:07 PM (00h5N)
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Are we sure that he hasn't done that? How many shell corporations have the Bidens set up to shield their shady wheeling and dealing?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 03, 2023 01:09 PM (BpYfr)

Sounds like a shell game.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 03, 2023 01:10 PM (ynpvh)

348 US globalism at any rate didn't exist to be anti-globablist about.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 03, 2023 01:04 PM (eYoxG)

I know right? Weird. Maybe important?

First, there is negative utility in calling globohomo "fascist". I know if X is bad and if we say Y which is also bad X it will make Y seem even more bad has some marginal utility but the confusion it sows as many times greater aside from the fact that rectifying names is crucial.

Second, fascism was not a homogenizing movement as was Sovietism/Communism.

It just wasn't no matter how many ppl say it was.

Even the Nazis didn't aspire to world Hegemony as did the Soviets and the US.

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 03, 2023 01:11 PM (LsETW)

349 144 NY is Mob

Chicago is Syndicate

Posted by: polynikes at August 03, 2023 12:21 PM (MNhXM)

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Las Vegas is Racket.
Posted by: ShainS -- We're Happy Ace's Geriatric Club ... at August 03, 2023 12:23 PM (f6UzA)

and DC is the Federal Government.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 03, 2023 01:11 PM (/iWhV)

350 I hold out hope that once millennials actually bother to learn what fascism is, rather than what they're told it is, they'll turn around and support conservatives. It couldn't be more or less fascist for them to assume what some authority says about what misinformation is to be true without even bothering to know if they're right or not. They might as well be going about in 1940s Germany saying "Concentration Camps are just misinformation."

Posted by: FluWarrior at August 03, 2023 01:11 PM (ZwGhR)

351 What does that even mean? Met sales projections? Did as well as they had hoped? Does anyone have a Bevspeak-English translator?
Posted by: Muldoon, not quite sure how this meme works at August 03, 2023 01:09 PM (l4B/J)
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They're claiming that crashing sales won't hit profits. This means that they have structural finance cost reductions, major internal efficiencies/optimizations, other cost savings, etc. Or they're lying.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 03, 2023 01:11 PM (t0OGg)

352 333
I'm sure you've heard it before, the shot isn’t for immunity, but to improve your chances to avoid Long Covid or worse.

What's worse than Long Covid? Deep Covid?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 03, 2023 01:07 PM (63Dwl)

Double-secret Covid

Posted by: Roy at August 03, 2023 01:11 PM (JDgKm)

353 350 I hold out hope that once millennials actually bother to learn what fascism is, rather than what they're told it is, they'll turn around and support conservatives. It couldn't be more or less fascist for them to assume what some authority says about what misinformation is to be true without even bothering to know if they're right or not. They might as well be going about in 1940s Germany saying "Concentration Camps are just misinformation."

Posted by: FluWarrior at August 03, 2023 01:11 PM (ZwGhR)

Learn to Concentrate! Camps open today!

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 03, 2023 01:11 PM (ynpvh)

354 Fiberglass boat too she is on

Posted by: Skip at August 03, 2023 01:12 PM (JglZ8)

355 Numbers are in. Mongolia's space program ranks just behind Togo and Dahomey, and just ahead of Bechuanaland.

Posted by: Rank Organization at August 03, 2023 01:12 PM (83IzV)

356 Facebook around and find out.

Posted by: Up2U at August 03, 2023 01:12 PM (IhWHH)

357
I was thinking Mayberry. Or Hooterville.

Paul Ford as Mayor Shinn of River City, Iowa in The Music Man.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

Mayor of Simpleton

https://youtu.be/5Da9sc6YDBo

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 03, 2023 01:12 PM (63Dwl)

358 noood

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at August 03, 2023 01:13 PM (xcxpd)

359 They want to put a grill in space, haters!

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at August 03, 2023 01:13 PM (krqg6)

360 I think DJT gets hung at rpm and got a email my internet might be put when I get home

Posted by: Skip at August 03, 2023 01:13 PM (JglZ8)

361 324 Direct D on utube put out a video of the really bad shooting of a guy in Mesa AZ in 2017.

Never heard the story, cop got away with it.
Mesa paid around $9m in two settlements.

Shaver was the victim's name.

Just another data point in our new fascism.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at August 03, 2023 01:05 PM (ufFY

///

I remember that shooting. Absolutely horrible. I thought the sadistic cop was getting away with it

Posted by: JM in Florida -- now in IllinoisI at August 03, 2023 01:13 PM (JTjxK)

362 Was doing a crossword puzzle last night and the clue was:

Parliament : owls :: raft : ___

It was a five letter word and I just guessed "otter" (thanks to nurse ratched and this place), and indeed it was correct.
Posted by: ShainS -- We're Happy Ace's Geriatric Club ... at August 03, 2023

***
Clever of you! Those are the collective nouns for those animals, like a "murder" of crows?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 03, 2023 01:13 PM (J2vNu)

363 355 Numbers are in. Mongolia's space program ranks just behind Togo and Dahomey, and just ahead of Bechuanaland.
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When Mongolia gets its space horses working watch the fuck out.

Posted by: Puddinhead at August 03, 2023 01:13 PM (KY22T)

364 It seems to me that it shouldn’t matter whether social media was coerced to undermine our rights or gleefully volunteered to do so. Under either scenario social media became actors of the state. Sue them. Use the tool, known as law fare, on the left.

Posted by: 7man at August 03, 2023 01:14 PM (qwO6y)

365 instagram, usually more "youthful" than Facebook, should be the watch item.

Posted by: L - Practice makes perfect. They know their enemy at August 03, 2023 01:14 PM (GshMh)

366 NOOD Jack Smith Scum

Posted by: ShainS -- We're Happy Ace's Geriatric Club ... at August 03, 2023 01:15 PM (f6UzA)

367 AB InBev maintained its profit guidance for the year.

********

What does that even mean? Met sales projections? Did as well as they had hoped? Does anyone have a Bevspeak-English translator?
Posted by: Muldoon, not quite sure how this meme works at August 03, 2023 01:09 PM (l4B/J)

That is finace-speak to the analysts. Companies will give a projection/prediction of their profits for the year. That is the 'guidance'. If shit happens, they need to adjust the 'guidance' up or down. In this case, it looks like they are saying they expect no change in their predicted profits. (i e, this Butt Light debacle didn't change anything, at least from a global perspective).

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at August 03, 2023 01:15 PM (ufFY8)

368 "I'm sure you've heard it before, the shot isn’t for immunity, but to improve your chances to avoid Long Covid or worse.
What's worse than Long Covid? Deep Covid?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 03, 2023 01:07 PM (63Dwl)
Double-secret Covid --Roy"

My internist in pushing the shot though I'd already had Covid: said it was for "super immunity." Why not "Immunity with electrolytes"? I frickin dropped him on the spot.

Posted by: Zek at August 03, 2023 01:16 PM (5FPX4)

369
Kamala does not want to be president. She realizes it's a BS position. She continues to clown herself on the world's stage to prevent the powers that be from elevating her and forcing her to endure the rigors of a thoroughly thankless job.

Or, she's a complete tard.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 03, 2023 12:43 PM (KbCG3)

She definitely wants the top job. But she's a vindictive, clueless, retard who thinks she's a genius.

None of these are mutually exclusive.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 03, 2023 01:16 PM (n+4am)

370 That is finace-speak to the analysts. Companies will give a projection/prediction of their profits for the year. That is the 'guidance'. If shit happens, they need to adjust the 'guidance' up or down. In this case, it looks like they are saying they expect no change in their predicted profits. (i e, this Butt Light debacle didn't change anything, at least from a global perspective).
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at August 03, 2023 01:15 PM (ufFY

Merely a flesh wound

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 03, 2023 01:16 PM (LsETW)

371 Second, fascism was not a homogenizing movement as was Sovietism/Communism.

It just wasn't no matter how many ppl say it was.

Even the Nazis didn't aspire to world Hegemony as did the Soviets and the US.
Posted by: Thesokorus at August 03, 2023 01:11 PM (LsETW)

I did note that the USSR was much more about an ordinary global empire centered in Russia. That fascists proselytized and seemed to believe in awakening race consciousness in other(presumably rival) countries. Possibly a side-effect of being socialist and the consequent importance of the narrative of a mass awakening and transformation of society.

Nationalism is originally characterized by a leveling and unifying process within the country. Language, laws, and identity. In combination with an empire, one would imagine a nationalist empire would seek to say, Germanify the world. And yet it is the Russian satellites that speak Russian, and not French or Poles that speak German.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 03, 2023 01:16 PM (eYoxG)

372 Willowed GIF:

tinyurl.com/3p8ryscr

Posted by: pookysgirl, Tangled fan at August 03, 2023 01:17 PM (dtlDP)

373 I say we nail Zuckerberg to a spit and slowly roast him over an open fire. That dirtbag has run more interference in our elections than most people. I'm pretty sure others would get the hint if they heard him scream as his flesh cooked. Dickhead.

Posted by: Revenge is Sweet, and Necessary at August 03, 2023 01:19 PM (+83Ol)

374 China's internet czar has suggested capping internet activities at 2 hours per day for youth.

And since they are commies and such, that means that Chinese kids will only be allowed two hours a day. Gonna cut way into those views and likes and such.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 03, 2023 12:17 PM (Gf3mx)

I think this is a good idea. Every once in awhile, even the most ruthless regimes will get something right.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at August 03, 2023 01:19 PM (BdMk6)

375 ***
I was thinking Mayberry. Or Hooterville.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
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Had to look it up, but I note in passing that the Mayor of Mayberry was named 'Roy Stoner'. So, yeah.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 03, 2023 01:20 PM (bJHK5)

376 I'll keep masking until medical science provides a solution to ending this crap. If I am going to die I would prefer it to be because of natural causes and not because of some ahole redneck anti-vaxxer maskhole.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions
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Magical thinking and my guess is that this person is not particularly hygienic nor correct in mask usage.

In the medieval era, this critter would be using dust from a tomb or some other such to ward off the black plague.

Posted by: whig at August 03, 2023 01:21 PM (bk5GW)

377 Kamala and Newson both have California addresses. (Like Trump and DeSantis.)

Her husband, who has some value, will remain in government service.

Posted by: L - Practice makes perfect. They know their enemy at August 03, 2023 01:21 PM (GshMh)

378 Fascism has an economic definition, according to my Econ 101 teacher, no mention of nationalism.

"Privately owned means of production with authoritarian state control."

Posted by: Javems at August 03, 2023 01:22 PM (AmoqO)

379 But she's a vindictive, clueless, retard who thinks she's a genius.
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Posted by: IllTemperedCur
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So, a Venn diagram of vindictive, clueless, and stupid would show Kamala at the center? Ironic.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 03, 2023 01:23 PM (bJHK5)

380 Fascism has an economic definition, according to my Econ 101 teacher, no mention of nationalism.

"Privately owned means of production with authoritarian state control."

Posted by: Javems
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Wait. No boots or goose stepping?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 03, 2023 01:24 PM (VG0cN)

381 Nood distractions

Posted by: Iris at August 03, 2023 01:32 PM (NaH5I)

382 Joe Biden calls Mark Zuckerberg and tells him to delete Tucker Carlson's FB post claiming the covid vaccine is not safe or effective. Zuckerberg tells him no, offers no explanation, then hangs up on him when Biden starts to argue. Then what? I've posed this question to other conservative boards and the answer usually is Biden declares that Zuckerberg is the publisher at FB because he's deleting posts and he's no longer protected by Section 230 of the CDA. I point out the first person to sue FB would be Carlson over his posts regarding Hunter Biden's laptop, for starters. Is Biden really willing to help Carlson and injure himself just to punish Zuckerberg?

Posted by: hurricane567@gmail.com at August 03, 2023 03:50 PM (Nysy4)

383 Give me one reason not to fire everyone in the DOJ and FBI.

Posted by: Jane at August 03, 2023 03:54 PM (EcD5Y)

384 The Censorship by Proxy is one crime.

The Extortion to force it is another.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at August 03, 2023 04:30 PM (Ndje9)

385 The whole Consperacy against Conservatives by the Liberal Media bottom Feeders

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at August 03, 2023 06:16 PM (wGqjj)

386 SCOTUS already ruled on whether or not we have 1st Amendment Rights when it comes to private companies censoring us.

The Opinion stated that when a private company is acting at the direction of, or in concert with, a government agency or elected official then it is acting as an government agent itself. Therefore, any censorship by that company, at the behest of the government, is a violation of the 1st Amendment.

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