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Devon Archer: Hunter Biden Told Me to Buy a Burner Phone Just Before a Meeting with Then-VP Joe Biden; A Few Weeks Later, Hunter Biden Was On the Burisma Board

Remember Hillary Clinton's, "Wiped? You mean with a cloth?"

Now we're going to be hearing, "Burner? Like on a stove?"


EXCLUSIVE: Hunter Biden told Devon Archer to buy a BURNER PHONE three days before meeting with then-VP Joe at the White House - and weeks later the business partners announced their board seats at 'corrupt' Ukrainian gas firm Burisma

DailyMail.com obtained an email from Hunter Biden to business partner Devon Archer telling him to 'buy a cell phone from a 7/11 or CVS and ill do the same'

Request came at the end of an email that also hinted at Hunter's touting of his influence over his VP father -- who he described as 'my guy'

READ MORE: Republicans ramp up Biden impeachment threats after Archer's testimony on Hunter's foreign deals


Hunter Biden told his 'best friend' Devon Archer to get a burner phone, three days before Archer met with then-VP Joe Biden at the White House, shocking emails show.

'Buy a cell phone from a 7/11 or CVS tmrw and ill do the same,' Hunter wrote in the explosive April 13, 2014 message.

Days later Archer would meet with Joe in the West Wing, White House records show, and he and Hunter would announce their board seats at allegedly corrupt Ukrainian gas company Burisma later that month.

Hunter's curious request of Archer to buy a burner phone came at the end of a shocking email discussing their business strategy, that also hinted at Hunter's touting of his influence over his VP father -- who he described as 'my guy' -- in his business dealings.

Records from his laptop show Hunter kept 13 phone numbers active on his AT&T account -- and some may have even belonged to Joe Biden.

The more ratlike Adam Schiff, Dan Goldman, will soon come out to explain, "They needed a lot of phones to discuss the weather... they enjoyed discussing the weather in 13 different world cities, and wanted a phone for each."



The President paid for the phone lines for a period, according to Hunter's assistant Katie Dodge.

...

The committee also had the power to grill Archer on the disposable phone numbers, and may subpoena records of communications on them.

Dodge listed the 13 numbers in a spreadsheet of his monthly bills sent with her January 17 2019 email, highlighting the $1,200-per-month total bill for the lines.

...

In a September 20, 2016 email, Hunter's colleague at his Rosemont Seneca consultancy, Joan Mayer, asked about his phone bills, and described one number ending 3313 paid for by Hunter as belonging to 'dad'.

Hunter's business partner Eric Schwerin also wrote that Hunter spent $190.02 per month for an AT&T line for 'JRB', Joe Biden's initials, in a December 7, 2016 email listing Hunter's bills.

So Joe Biden, when Vice President, was using a secret burner phone that could not be subpoenaed, because it was secret.

Like Hillary Clinton's secret bathroom server, set up to avoid congressional subpeonas and FOIA demands.

...

AT&T texts to Hunter's cell phone sent in 2018 and 2019 list the calls, texts and data use on each of his phone lines.

Though there are no text messages stored on the laptop for some of the lines, the AT&T notifications show that hundreds of megabytes of data was being used on those phones.

One explanation could be that Hunter was using these extra numbers for encrypted text conversations on burner phones -- as he suggested to Archer in his 2014 email.

The First Son downloaded sixteen private messaging apps prior to 2019, many of which used encryption, according to an analysis of Hunter's laptop by right wing nonprofit Marco Polo.

The apps included Signal, Chinese messaging app WeChat, and Wickr, an encrypted app once favored in the criminal underworld.

Drug dealers use the same apps Hunter and Joe did, because drug dealers, famously, love talking about the weather, and/or "niceties."

Sometimes conversations about the weather need to be conducted in unbreakable code. You don't want citizens FOIA'ing your very sensitive discussions about the weather and weather-adjacent phenomena, like tsunamis.

Impeach the bitch.

Posted by: Ace at 03:18 PM




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1 1st

Posted by: GF at August 01, 2023 03:18 PM (F/Hue)

2 first ish

Posted by: gnats local 678 at August 01, 2023 03:18 PM (B1FKF)

3 rats ish

Posted by: gnats local 678 at August 01, 2023 03:18 PM (B1FKF)

4 In other news, the Biden family has added black market incandescent bulbs (from China, of course) to their activities.

Posted by: Eeyore at August 01, 2023 03:21 PM (brAQZ)

5 Burner phones clearly always can help with nicities.

Posted by: Rep Daniel Goldman at August 01, 2023 03:21 PM (krQz2)

6 There are still criminals who use their own smart phones to arrange anything? Yeesh.

The GOP could easily point out that Merrick Garland's DoJ is about as reliable and objective as the People's Court of Roland Freisler, but then they are the Stupid and Evil Party. As opposed to the Rats, who are the Evil and Stupid Party.

Posted by: trev006 at August 01, 2023 03:21 PM (WVerd)

7 Most Americans have at least a few burner phones.

No biggie and no proof of any corruption.

Says the deginerate MSM.

Posted by: Czech Chick at August 01, 2023 03:21 PM (6Tc2R)

8 Yea but........ Trump said F**k once when he was in the Oval Office !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Ferd Berfall at August 01, 2023 03:21 PM (y9QBQ)

9 Details, details.

Even worse! Donald Trump said P*SSY!

Posted by: rd at August 01, 2023 03:22 PM (yhChW)

10 This implicates all of DC because everyone there knew. Everyone was either in on it, or knew someone who was. It's a company town and everyone there is a criminal. So it implicates them all, & yes that includes "The Precious" Obama.

Now, say the Rs have the balls to impeach Biden. The senate is filled w/ Biden's friends and I suspect we MIGHT get as high as 10 yay votes. Might. Despite this being full blown treason & worthy of a firing squad. Biden walks completely, tells Americans and Congress to fuck completely off, then goes right back to it.

What I want is for Biden to straight up pardon Hunter, then tell the DNC to drop dead & that he's running for Pres again. I want all the pain in the world that this demented dumbass can muster, because it MIGHT be enough to wake up enough people to stop voting for this evil. Maybe.

Posted by: Mr. Fabulist at August 01, 2023 03:22 PM (7VCus)

11
"Hey Dad, I need a summer job."

"How about serving on the board of a Ukrainian gas company?"

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 01, 2023 03:22 PM (MoZTd)

12 Who wants to throw stones at someone's foible of thinking they need to buy burner phones?

Posted by: Axeman at August 01, 2023 03:23 PM (krQz2)

13 A lesson to us all, burner phones are of no use in masking criminal activities.

Next up, VPNs

Posted by: Just Lily at August 01, 2023 03:23 PM (RLLZj)

14 It’s time to subpoena Biden’s tax records.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at August 01, 2023 03:23 PM (cMXNt)

15 i don't see what the problem is - if you were a crooked politician wouldn't you use a throw away phone and encryption software?

fifth amendment and all that.

adam schifty could explain it to you but he knows you won't listen

Posted by: gnats local 678 at August 01, 2023 03:23 PM (B1FKF)

16
but then they are the Stupid and Evil Party. As opposed to the Rats, who are the Evil and Stupid Party.
Posted by: trev006 at August 01, 2023 03:21 PM (WVerd)


Bipartisanship is when the two get together to do stupid and evil things.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 01, 2023 03:23 PM (MoZTd)

17
In any criminal enterprise, there are a hundred things that can go wrong and if you can think of 50 of them, you're a geniius.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 01, 2023 03:24 PM (MoZTd)

18 LOL! That's hilarious. Hunter is the smartest guy Joe knows.

But he documented the use of burner phones in an email!

Posted by: Axeman at August 01, 2023 03:25 PM (krQz2)

19 "Wiped, Like With A Cloth?"....

Still a classic.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 01, 2023 03:25 PM (5L/TD)

20 Just jumping in to remind everyone that when Obama was elected, there was a minor kerfuffle about him using a blackberry due to encryption worries and the presidential records act.

They secret service had to have a custom blackberry built that was fully encrypted, where all records would be retained.

I imagine the VP was supposed to be under similar constraints.

So burner phones would not be allowed in that scenario.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 01, 2023 03:26 PM (mj0Qp)

21 Just talkin' bout the weather. And traffic[king of children].

No joke! That's a fact Jack! Word as a Biden and you know the thing.

Posted by: screaming in digital at August 01, 2023 03:26 PM (aBJcM)

22 There are a couple of reasons to impeach Biden, but frankly I just want to see him testify and try to defend himself and Hunter

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at August 01, 2023 03:26 PM (xcxpd)

23
But he documented the use of burner phones in an email!
Posted by: Axeman at August 01, 2023 03:25 PM (krQz2)


*computer-generated voice*

Hunter is a private citizen. Hunter is a private citizen. Hunter is a private citizen.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 01, 2023 03:26 PM (MoZTd)

24 I'll put my flame suit on after I point this out, but all of this is going to get nullified for Joe Biden in the next election because Trump has his own legal problems (if he's the nominee)

Trump will bring all of this up, Biden will point to Trump being charged sneaking out classified material and displaying it (and bragging about it on tape) and voters will score it a draw.

Posted by: Blago at August 01, 2023 03:26 PM (cOFom)

25 'buy a cell phone from a 7/11 or CVS and ill do the same'

This is actually a coded message. The plaintext reads: "Have your flunky buy you a cell phone in stripmall shitsville, and I'll have my flunky do the same for me."

Posted by: Rolling Donut Unharmed By gp's Flying Leap at August 01, 2023 03:27 PM (MvF+J)

26 I'm still waiting for Garland to acknowledge the Biden family crimes.
Do you think holding my breath will help?

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 01, 2023 03:27 PM (voyai)

27 If a handful of guys went to DC on January 6, and purchased burnett obtains before hand, the government would user that to prove there was conspiracy and that they were using known terrorist evasion tactics. But they'll just say Hunter found a good deal on long distance calling.

Posted by: Rbastid at August 01, 2023 03:28 PM (f/s0F)

28 Looking forward to the desperate sweaty fat-fingered almost-readable attempt at deflection this will elicit from Paul.

Posted by: spindrift at August 01, 2023 03:28 PM (iG1Nf)

29

pshaw. So-called whistler blowers. The news media disavows any knowledge of these shenanigans.

Posted by: Auspex at August 01, 2023 03:28 PM (j4U/Z)

30
$1,200-per-month total bill for the lines.

Should have gone with Patriot Mobile!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 01, 2023 03:29 PM (63Dwl)

31 I'm still waiting for Garland to acknowledge the Biden family crimes.
Do you think holding my breath will help?
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron
____

It's "maybe hang together, or definitely hang together" with everyone in the Biden Administration.

Let's be honest, they're all untouchable. And they know it. No jury in DC will convict anyone with a D next to their name.

Posted by: Blago at August 01, 2023 03:29 PM (cOFom)

32 i'd bet that hunter bought that burner phone (and probably more than just one) with a credit card. too bad all the c c records were accidentally deleted next week

Posted by: gnats local 678 at August 01, 2023 03:30 PM (B1FKF)

33 The UK papers are much better than the US ones.

Fucking incredible.

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 01, 2023 03:30 PM (NtVYv)

34 Devon Archer: Hunter Biden Told Me to Buy a Burner Phone

Law Enforcement LOVES it when people think that Burner Phones create anonymity.

When a person sparks up that Burner, it should only be for outgoing comms or within a very tight operational window - and that only to another burner phone where the user has strict OPSEC.

That phone gives off a location, so both parties better be far from any known haunts, no where near any phones used by associates or near any other known contacts. Not on the move, and certainly using code phrases while sucking on hard candy.

Otherwise voice, location, proximity and other metrics will very quickly identify the owner of that burn phone. Better to use it once and then destroy it, anything more and patterns emerge.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 01, 2023 03:30 PM (p8A+W)

35 Impeach the bitch.

It's not just the Bidens. ALL of DC does it. This is why they are spending so much money on Ukraine. They have to protect their moneypot.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 01, 2023 03:30 PM (JMAcK)

36 Impeach Joe Leech

Posted by: You can go a long way with a smile. --Al Capone at August 01, 2023 03:31 PM (VsUo2)

37 Why won't Republicans stop seizing and pouncing, trying to weaponize a father's love against him?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 01, 2023 03:31 PM (5jqeq)

38 Is a Tracphone a burner phone? Can a smartphone burn too, or is it only the clamshells? (I watched all of BB and BCS; you'd think I'd know this.)

Posted by: Rolling Donut Unharmed By gp's Flying Leap at August 01, 2023 03:31 PM (MvF+J)

39 Why bother impeaching Brandon? He's a powerless figurehead, for one thing. But then, so are all Presidents. To make matters worse, he's a Democrat. He'd win any trial in the Senate by at least 75-25, even if they had video of him eating adrenochrome straight out of an infant's skull. In this case? Probably 85-15.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 01, 2023 03:31 PM (0FoWg)

40 I'm surprised Hunter hasn't been found dead yet, suicide by multiple gunshots to the head.

Posted by: Blago at August 01, 2023 03:31 PM (cOFom)

41 Drip drip drip

Day one after Archer: Where's the evidence.

Day two: Joe has his finger on the political nuclear button and will take everyone down.

Day three: Constitutional expert Larry Tribe says that to be impeachable the bribery must have occurred during Joe's POTUS term.

The Left will force Joe to resign for health reasons, as I've been saying. They can't abide the revelations of an impeachment inquiry. McCarthy will move if he has the votes. If he's not there yet, he will be soon.

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 01, 2023 03:32 PM (RqMSv)

42 Reach out. Reach out and touch someone.

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 01, 2023 03:32 PM (4I/2K)

43 Trump will bring all of this up, Biden will point to Trump being charged sneaking out classified material and displaying it (and bragging about it on tape) and voters will score it a draw.
Posted by: Blago at August 01, 2023 03:26 PM (cOFom)
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DeSantis is one election run away from the Dems piling "crimes" upon "crimes" on him too. He's already a "racist who said slavery was a step up".

Posted by: Axeman at August 01, 2023 03:32 PM (krQz2)

44 Let's be honest, they're all untouchable. And they know it. No jury in DC will convict anyone with a D next to their name.
Posted by: Blago at August 01, 2023 03:29 PM (cOFom)

It's bigger than D v R.

I suspect that just about everyone in any position of power and influence in our government is on some kind of take here.

It's mutually assured destruction if anyone tries to blow up anyone else's schemes.

"You want to bring up Ukrainian gas companies, Congressman? Let's talk about how your son has a no-show job working for your biggest donor, which happens to also somehow be the beneficiary of massive government contracts. Oh, and let's discuss how you became a multimillionaire on $174,000 a year. Yeah, that's what I thought."

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 01, 2023 03:32 PM (mj0Qp)

45 You need burner phones to discuss you foibles with others.

Posted by: Roy at August 01, 2023 03:32 PM (oxoHe)

46 @40 So much cleaner with a fentanyl OD.

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 01, 2023 03:33 PM (RqMSv)

47 Biden brand burner phones are best for your pay to play needs

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at August 01, 2023 03:33 PM (eggM4)

48 I have difficulty believing that a guy who observed daddy-daughter shower hour is sleazy, corrupt.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at August 01, 2023 03:33 PM (ppBhU)

49 What a scamp.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 01, 2023 03:33 PM (i5lJm)

50 Burn it like a bowl on a crap pipe.

My antenna got ripped off my truck....a knowledgeable neighbor says antennas are used by dopers to smoke crack with. You can't have antennas now.

Posted by: CalPERS at August 01, 2023 03:33 PM (OUiUM)

51 44 Concur.

Posted by: Rolling Donut Unharmed By gp's Flying Leap at August 01, 2023 03:33 PM (MvF+J)

52 Is a Tracphone a burner phone? Can a smartphone burn too, or is it only the clamshells? (I watched all of BB and BCS; you'd think I'd know this.)
Posted by: Rolling Donut Unharmed By gp'
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I score a burner as any prepaid cell plan. It's just really difficult to trace, some of them you can buy like a gift card "cell minutes" with cash at a retail store and then redeem on your phone.

Posted by: Blago at August 01, 2023 03:33 PM (cOFom)

53 This is MI-6 double-naught spy stuff.

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 01, 2023 03:34 PM (4I/2K)

54 This proves Trump's Breath Stinks !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Dorcus Blimeline at August 01, 2023 03:34 PM (9e2kV)

55 "DailyMail.com obtained an email from Hunter Biden to business partner Devon Archer telling him to 'buy a cell phone from a 7/11 or CVS and ill do the same'"

This is what is killing me here. It's now 1 Aug 2023, and revelations are coming out about these email correspondences...over three years after the Hunter Biden laptop was discovered. We know the FIB had it, we also know that Senate Intel had it as well. The Senate Intel, by the way, that was Republican-controlled in 2020.

All this time, and we have to wait until today to know this - from a UK newspaper, no less. Giuliani had a copy of the laptop, and this didn't come out either.

Like I said, this is killing me here.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 01, 2023 03:34 PM (/iWhV)

56 38 Is a Tracphone a burner phone? Can a smartphone burn too, or is it only the clamshells? (I watched all of BB and BCS; you'd think I'd know this.)
Posted by: Rolling Donut Unharmed By gp's Flying Leap at August 01, 2023 03:31 PM (MvF+J)

Any phone can be a burner phone. Just walk in to walmart, buy an android smart phone and a prepaid card with cash or a gift card, and when you activate it, use a fake name.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 01, 2023 03:34 PM (mj0Qp)

57 Furthermore, if a person is stupid enough to be wearing a sports watch that records GPS, the burner can easily be matched to subpoenaed telemetry.

You are almost always better off paying a bum to read a message over the phone, relaying what comes back and letting the bum keep the phone.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 01, 2023 03:34 PM (p8A+W)

58 Always use a burner phone to say hi to your son's business parter dinner buddies.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at August 01, 2023 03:34 PM (eggM4)

59 Burner phones, aliases, tarmac meetings, government business on private email accounts.....

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 01, 2023 03:34 PM (KBA0C)

60 O The human foible of suddenly telling your friend, for no discernible reason, to buy some burner phones!

Posted by: Axeman at August 01, 2023 03:35 PM (krQz2)

61 52,56 Thanks!

Posted by: Rolling Donut Unharmed By gp's Flying Leap at August 01, 2023 03:35 PM (MvF+J)

62 The President paid for the phone lines for a period, according to Hunter's assistant Katie Dodge.
---
This makes them subject to the Records Act.

I'm sure Jack Smith will be indicating Trump for failing to make sure the Achievist retained Hunter and Joe's records.
I mean, he was president at the time, he was the executive-- trump was really the one at fault.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 01, 2023 03:35 PM (5jqeq)

63 Look, Fat, the best way to get up-to-the second weather reports is to use a burner phone! Everyone knows that except you, you MAGA dummy!

Posted by: Joe "I was a TV weatherman for years, no joke!" Biden at August 01, 2023 03:35 PM (AMIL/)

64 Any phone can be a burner phone. Just walk in to walmart, buy an android smart phone and a prepaid card with cash or a gift card, and when you activate it, use a fake name.

And I can locate and identify the user within three calls.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 01, 2023 03:35 PM (p8A+W)

65
even if they had video of him eating adrenochrome straight out of an infant's skull.

Was that what he was doing on his recent European trip?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 01, 2023 03:35 PM (63Dwl)

66 Hunter needed a burner phone because he had used up all the data on his dad's cell plan. Signed Rep.Goldfinger!

Posted by: Minnfidel at August 01, 2023 03:35 PM (eqKLj)

67 The wheels are closing in, the walls are coming off ...

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 01, 2023 03:35 PM (YqDXo)

68 The he'll of it is, most people would never even THINK about using a burner phone, much less know how to use one "correctly".

If you are trying to hide your actions from others, it's a pretty safe bet that you are doing something "wrong" - criminal or moral - in the first place.

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas - Ace of Spades Ladies Brigade, plucky comic relief at August 01, 2023 03:36 PM (SRRAx)

69 All that encryption and burner phoning was needed for drug purchasing, hookers, racketeering, and weather... but mostly weather. Perfectly normal.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at August 01, 2023 03:36 PM (aXxgO)

70 Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 01, 2023 03:34 PM (mj0Qp)

Whoa! Long time, no see.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 01, 2023 03:36 PM (/iWhV)

71 "You want to bring up Ukrainian gas companies, Congressman? Let's talk about how your son has a no-show job working for your biggest donor, which happens to also somehow be the beneficiary of massive government contracts. Oh, and let's discuss how you became a multimillionaire on $174,000 a year. Yeah, that's what I thought."
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
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Wow, blast from the recent past. Hope your move back from the Southlands worked out well.

Posted by: whig at August 01, 2023 03:36 PM (bk5GW)

72 *Glares at timestamp*

*Glares at Horde*

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at August 01, 2023 03:36 PM (N3zMI)

73 Either way we are SCREWED. Stuck with Biden till 2025 or stuck with Harris till 2025 !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Your choice............ Death by beheading, lethal injection, electric chair, firing squad, etc.........

Posted by: Ferd Berfall at August 01, 2023 03:36 PM (hSa/7)

74 And the fat lady is circling the drain!

Posted by: It's obvious at August 01, 2023 03:36 PM (Ak4Zh)

75 This is why I hope those alleged tapes of Biden exist. I think it will require evidence with 0 degrees of separation.

Posted by: polynikes at August 01, 2023 03:37 PM (MNhXM)

76 Burn out the day
Burn out the night

I'm burnin for you

Posted by: Hunters Bdien at August 01, 2023 03:37 PM (NtVYv)

77 What else would you use on a boiling planet than a burner phone?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 01, 2023 03:37 PM (63Dwl)

78 Isn't this an episode of Better Call Saul?

Posted by: Regular joe at August 01, 2023 03:37 PM (nnp+f)

79 Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 01, 2023 03:32 PM (mj0Qp)

All of that is true. But it only matters up to a point. If you expose an R for his corruption, he'll get convicted. If you expose a D for his corruption, he'll walk without charges being filed, and it won't affect public opinion at all.

It cuts one way. Rs get to take their little strips off the American carcass in exchange for doing whatever Ds tell them, and they'll be ripped to pieces next, if they don't.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 01, 2023 03:37 PM (0FoWg)

80 You are almost always better off paying a bum to read a message over the phone, relaying what comes back and letting the bum keep the phone.
Posted by: Reuben Hick
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Heh. Look for that technique to appear in some of the crime shows I watch on occasion.

Posted by: whig at August 01, 2023 03:37 PM (bk5GW)

81 No one needs 16 private, encrypted messaging apps unless they are engaged in some shady shit...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 01, 2023 03:37 PM (YIVH2)

82 I’m in a quandary. I do not want Harris to have the honor of being the first female President but on the other hand it will make Hillary’s head explode.

Posted by: polynikes at August 01, 2023 03:38 PM (MNhXM)

83 Any phone can be a burner phone. Just walk in to walmart, buy an android smart phone and a prepaid card with cash or a gift card, and when you activate it, use a fake name.

Every purchase also has you on retail security camera. The cards can be identified to the store, and your identity established through motor vehicle registration photos.

You need cut outs every step of the way.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 01, 2023 03:38 PM (p8A+W)

84 "You are almost always better off paying a bum to read a message over the phone, relaying what comes back and letting the bum keep the phone."

Can't leave a living witness though.

Posted by: Rolling Donut Unharmed By gp's Flying Leap at August 01, 2023 03:38 PM (MvF+J)

85 I'm in the no impeachment camp.

Keep investigating. Keep producing this evidence. Keep Joe at the forefront of the party. Force him to address these allegations. Force the media to cover for him. Force the Ds to wear this anchor in front of every camera in the nation.

Do not let them off the hook with a show trial that will produce nothing but sympathy for the old c*nt.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 01, 2023 03:38 PM (KbCG3)

86 So did JRB use his burner phone to call his CCP paymaster?

Posted by: torabora at August 01, 2023 03:38 PM (OUiUM)

87 No one needs 16 private, encrypted messaging apps unless they are engaged in some shady shit...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 01, 2023 03:37 PM (YIVH2)
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What if you don't want that super secret weather info to leak?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 01, 2023 03:38 PM (YqDXo)

88 And I can locate and identify the user within three calls.
Posted by: Reuben Hick
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I think much of the appeal with a burner is it just makes law enforcements job way more difficult.

Some local sheriff's office is probably going to find lower hanging fruit than trying to trace a series of burner phones for a drug dealer.

But I'm sure a federal agency throwing everything thing at who was operating a burner can figure it our pretty quickly.

Posted by: Blago at August 01, 2023 03:39 PM (cOFom)

89 I mean, weren't these the same people just days ago saying, "you don't try to destroy security footage unless you're hiding a crime?"

But burner phones?

I can't wait to hear why this is not evidence of a crime under their own standard.

I figure it'll be: A lot of blacks can't afford regular phones and use so-called "burner" phones. The correct term is "pre-paid." To assume the use of these is to conceal criminal activity is racist.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 01, 2023 03:39 PM (5jqeq)

90 I hate autocorrect....

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas - Ace of Spades Ladies Brigade, plucky comic relief at August 01, 2023 03:39 PM (SRRAx)

91 I'm just gonna say, this whole thing is starting to sound like a con. Needless to say, this Archer fella isn't trustworthy. At all.

Either show the receipts or shut the hell up, and I'm not going to be surprised one bit if this whole things doesn't disintegrate, because he doesn't have them.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 01, 2023 03:39 PM (dGCAG)

92 "You are almost always better off paying a bum to read a message over the phone, relaying what comes back and letting the bum keep the phone."

Can't leave a living witness though.
Posted by: Rolling Donut Unharmed By gp's Flying Leap at August 01, 2023 03:38 PM (MvF+J)
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Reward the bum with fentanyl. That should do it.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 01, 2023 03:39 PM (YqDXo)

93 I don't know about you all, but I have *concerns* about weaponizing the impeaxhment process for political gamesmanship. Impeachment is serious, and undermines the strength and longevity of our great nation's standing among global partners, and the power we project towards our adversaries.

This coarsening language and partisan behavior may set a dangerous precedent.

Posted by: Liberal Media at August 01, 2023 03:40 PM (ozhxq)

94 To give you an illustration of how sharp the divide is between Hunter's guilt and "Trumps", let me demonstrate.

The libs think they have Trump red-handed, asking the AG of Georgia to fabricate votes.

But Trump didn't say "fabricate", the records show he said "find".

The idea that a court can take the liberty of "Well, we ALL know what he meant", when "find" generally means "find" things that are there to find, and the court cannot take words in their worst meaning because somebody claims to be able to read minds or is an expert on what "Trump's thinking" or just wants to.

So, they think "find" is evidence. But documents that catch Biden in lies, aren't.

They don't have a standard of evidence. Because it tends to be everything they think is a reference to some other conclusion they've made along the line.

Posted by: Axeman at August 01, 2023 03:40 PM (krQz2)

95 Stolen phones > Burner phones

Posted by: polynikes at August 01, 2023 03:40 PM (MNhXM)

96 Technically, you do not even need a burner phone to make anonymous calls--voip is a thing which is one way used to do swatting among gamers and the like.

Posted by: whig at August 01, 2023 03:40 PM (bk5GW)

97 I saw Shady Shit open for the Butthole Surfers

at, you know the thing

c'mon man

Posted by: REDACTED at August 01, 2023 03:40 PM (us2H3)

98 Posted by: BurtTC at August 01, 2023 03:39 PM (dGCAG)

Are you serious?

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at August 01, 2023 03:40 PM (/3qrr)

99 Do not let them off the hook with a show trial that will produce nothing but sympathy for the old c*nt.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 01, 2023 03:38 PM (KbCG3)

You just know that the show trial will showcase more of Jim Jordan et al pontificating for the cameras than getting any useful answers from Biden & Co anyway.

I do want McCarthy to do something, however.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 01, 2023 03:40 PM (/iWhV)

100 It seems like I remember hearing something else about Hunter insisting that someone get a burner phone in order to conduct some sort of business with him and his partners.

It's weird because at no point in my entire life have I ever told someone to get a burner phone in a way that wasn't a joke.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The EPA has determined US has cooled since 1948 at August 01, 2023 03:40 PM (EEjVl)

101 But I'm sure a federal agency throwing everything thing at who was operating a burner can figure it our pretty quickly.

Posted by: Blago at August 01, 2023 03:39 PM (cOFom)
______________

But they can't figure out who left cocaine in the White House.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 01, 2023 03:41 PM (YqDXo)

102 according to an analysis of Hunter's laptop by right wing nonprofit Marco Polo.

I still get a laugh out of every non-leftist think tank/organization/"expert"/etc being explicitly labeled as "right wing" or "conservative".

Posted by: Dr. Fausti - I AM The Science at August 01, 2023 03:41 PM (lg881)

103 This coarsening language and partisan behavior may set a dangerous precedent.
Posted by: Liberal Media at August 01, 2023 03:40 PM (ozhxq)
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They impeached Trump on a House vote, over looking into this evidence that they swore up and down just wasn't there and was disproved years ago.

Posted by: Axeman at August 01, 2023 03:41 PM (krQz2)

104 'Can't leave a living witness though.'

Bum Phone Cutout pleads: "But you don't have to kill me, Hunter! All you guys talked about was the f'n weather!! You're going to whack me for hearing chitchat?!"

Posted by: Rolling Donut Unharmed By gp's Flying Leap at August 01, 2023 03:42 PM (MvF+J)

105 Ace: "Like Hillary Clinton's secret bathroom server, set up to avoid congressional subpeonas and FOIA demands."
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That's "Beautiful Hillary" to you! You are nothing but a NeverTrump traitor!
My beautiful, beautiful friend Hillary...

Posted by: Donald Trump at August 01, 2023 03:42 PM (MFZ8i)

106 99 Do not let them off the hook with a show trial that will produce nothing but sympathy for the old c*nt.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 01, 2023 03:38 PM (KbCG3)

You just know that the show trial will showcase more of Jim Jordan et al pontificating for the cameras than getting any useful answers from Biden & Co anyway.

I do want McCarthy to do something, however.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 01, 2023 03:40 PM (/iWhV)

My something is to drive them to a point where they have to continue saying things like, "Oh, he's just talking about the weather."

Every time you feel like it has reached maximum ridiculousness, they find a new 11.

I think Americans can be prone to fits of sympathy but they also are tired of being lied to -- especially when the lies are getting lazier and stupider.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 01, 2023 03:42 PM (KbCG3)

107 @whig, willowed...
138 Interesting article online. If you ever read Jim Cirrillo's Stakeout Squad stories, you find that the people lasting in the Stakeout Squad have very similar attributes to yours and Horner's list. The Stakeout Squad was used by NYPD during the 70's to combat the extraordinary increase in armed robberies there and they literally sat in the hides waiting for the criminals to appear.

Program was ended despite success in vastly reducing armed robberies in the city because a demographic of the people being shot was not politically sustainable by NYC.
Posted by: whig at August 01, 2023 02:40 PM (bk5GW)


Thanks! I'll be reading that soon. My hobby gig is wargame design and I am branching that into Tactical Psychology and this sounds like helpful info. Thanks again!

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf A2E6, Easy 6 Titanium Enhanced at August 01, 2023 03:42 PM (8C7+r)

108 99% of burner phones are used by the FBI

Posted by: REDACTED at August 01, 2023 03:43 PM (us2H3)

109 DailyMail.com obtained an email from Hunter Biden to business partner Devon Archer telling him to 'buy a cell phone from a 7/11 or CVS and ill do the same'
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This is typical and expected behavior among legitimate businessmen.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 01, 2023 03:43 PM (t0OGg)

110 Any phone can be a burner phone. Just walk in to walmart, buy an android smart phone and a prepaid card with cash or a gift card, and when you activate it, use a fake name.

Wear a covid mask. Be safe!

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 01, 2023 03:43 PM (i5lJm)

111
When does the committee subpoena Hunter? Are they building testimony from all the underlings and side-lings before they get him there under oath or what?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 01, 2023 03:43 PM (lCaJd)

112 16 different encrypted communication apps?

Wasn't there a major encryption app that was 100% CIA?

That they used to roll up a bunch of international criminals?

I think it's now certain why they shut it down: Too many U.S. politicians were using it.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 01, 2023 03:43 PM (5jqeq)

113 If you are doing some real shady shit, like popping off a VIP where investigations are a surety, then the go to is get a black market Stingray, clone a dupe's phone, then when the dupe holes up (like going to sleep), Stingray his phone, take your clone to do some recce on your mark to establish a pattern of useage.

Then do your evil shit and the dupe is left with coming up with an alibi that won't stick.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 01, 2023 03:43 PM (p8A+W)

114 The more ratlike Adam Schiff, Dan Goldman, will soon come out to explain, "They needed a lot of phones to discuss the weather... they enjoyed discussing the weather in 13 different world cities, and wanted a phone for each."
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No, it was just because at that time, handset subsidies were vanishing and it was more cost-effective to get a cheap phone. They're being fiscally responsible.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 01, 2023 03:43 PM (t0OGg)

115
"Hunter's the bagman, they are the bagmen.
F. Joe's the Big Guy, goo goo g'joob."

Posted by: ShainS at August 01, 2023 03:44 PM (tYETB)

116 I still get a laugh out of every non-leftist think tank/organization/"expert"/etc being explicitly labeled as "right wing" or "conservative".
Posted by: Dr. Fausti - I AM The Science at August 01, 2023 03:41 PM (lg881)
______________

You left out "far right."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 01, 2023 03:44 PM (YqDXo)

117 ixnay on the orruptioncay

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 01, 2023 03:44 PM (4I/2K)

118 But I'm sure a federal agency throwing everything thing at who was operating a burner can figure it our pretty quickly.

Posted by: Blago at August 01, 2023 03:39 PM (cOFom)
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Literally impossible. Simply cannot be done.

Posted by: a LIV who watches all the FBI tv shows at August 01, 2023 03:44 PM (ozhxq)

119 Bill Clinton never had a cell phone. I wonder why?

Posted by: Puddinhead at August 01, 2023 03:44 PM (tiR3O)

120 Hunter's business partner Eric Schwerin also wrote that Hunter spent $190.02 per month for an AT&T line for 'JRB', Joe Biden's initials, in a December 7, 2016 email listing Hunter's bills.
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That must have been a gold-plated plan. Like a plan with serious international dialing and roaming coverage.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 01, 2023 03:44 PM (t0OGg)

121 It seems like I remember hearing something else about Hunter insisting that someone get a burner phone in order to conduct some sort of business with him and his partners.

-

Addendum:

It stinks that it's impossible to search for stuff like this any longer. Similar to trying to find the piece about him texting his still-alive brother about how he was about to "wreck your wife's p*ssy" or whatever it was he said. Anyone else remember reading and discussing that a couple of months ago?

Similarly, I can't search for and find the "Biden's Improbable Victory" article that I linked here the other day.

It's like things no longer exist when the gate-keepers don't want you to read them.

I really dislike this timeline.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The EPA has determined US has cooled since 1948 at August 01, 2023 03:45 PM (EEjVl)

122 Bipartisanship is when the two get together to do stupid and evil things.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 01, 2023 03:23 PM (MoZTd)

Carlin was Right. But then, Owen Benjamin had their number of any number of things.

Posted by: trev006 at August 01, 2023 03:45 PM (WVerd)

123 the big diff with Old Joe is people get corruption

and whatever you think of Trump's impeachments

they weakened him

Posted by: REDACTED at August 01, 2023 03:45 PM (us2H3)

124 Things are bad when you need a hobo and burner phones to conduct "business".

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 01, 2023 03:45 PM (KBA0C)

125 "Wasn't there a major encryption app that was 100% CIA?"

I guesstimate that Tor, and all the subscription VPNs, are honeypots.

Posted by: Rolling Donut Unharmed By gp's Flying Leap at August 01, 2023 03:45 PM (MvF+J)

126 Wear a covid mask. Be safe!

Fun Fact: modern face reco doesn't care what is below the mask.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 01, 2023 03:45 PM (p8A+W)

127 So Joe Biden, when Vice President, was using a secret burner phone that could not be subpoenaed, because it was secret.

Like Hillary Clinton's secret bathroom server, set up to avoid congressional subpeonas and FOIA demands.

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They have to store their yoga correspondence and share pictures of the grandkids somehow, Ace.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 01, 2023 03:45 PM (t0OGg)

128 Bill Clinton never had a cell phone. I wonder why?
Posted by: Puddinhead at August 01, 2023 03:44 PM (tiR3O)

Lost in the kooch

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 01, 2023 03:45 PM (NtVYv)

129 The libs think they have Trump red-handed, asking the AG of Georgia to fabricate votes.

But Trump didn't say "fabricate", the records show he said "find".



They don't have a standard of evidence. Because it tends to be everything they think is a reference to some other conclusion they've made along the line.
Posted by: Axeman
____

Charging Trump for this incident is outrageous, but listening to that phone call, what an absolute dumb fuck. You get some staff member to work that situation, you don't personally make a phone call asking a state AG to find votes for you.

How many times had Trump been recorded, and he still doesn't understand how to play the game.

Posted by: Blago at August 01, 2023 03:45 PM (cOFom)

130 Every day thi x Crime Family gets more information on but when is the damage get broken?

Posted by: Skip at August 01, 2023 03:45 PM (xhxe8)

131 Thanks! I'll be reading that soon. My hobby gig is wargame design and I am branching that into Tactical Psychology and this sounds like helpful info. Thanks again!
Posted by: Iron Mike Golf
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I used to wargame way back in the day with Avalon Hill and a group of kids in the neighborhood. Needless to say, Jutland and Wooden Ships and Iron Men led to some epic day long wargaming back then.
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Jim was taken from us way too early by a traffic accident but by all accounts was a helluva man. Because in later years, he was more or less stymied for NYPD promotion, he made a lateral move to Georgia to train federal law enforcement agents at FLETC.

Posted by: whig at August 01, 2023 03:46 PM (bk5GW)

132
A lot of blacks can't afford regular phones and use so-called "burner" phones. The correct term is "pre-paid." To assume the use of these is to conceal criminal activity is racist.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice

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If you don't use a burner phone like me, you ain't Black!

Posted by: Joe Biden at August 01, 2023 03:46 PM (lCaJd)

133 Wasn't there a major encryption app that was 100% CIA?
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No. You have that confused with BitCoin.

Posted by: Puddinhead at August 01, 2023 03:46 PM (tiR3O)

134 Democrat logic:

If Republican: If I have documented statement or evidence that I can read into what I suspect, importing my entire chain of logic that I have built up over successive interpretations: I have evidence.

If Democrat: The President meant playfully "whack" the DA, you know like with a Nerf bat or something! Gah! You Republicans are just out for blood all the time!

Posted by: Axeman at August 01, 2023 03:46 PM (krQz2)

135 How do I send Ashley a burner phone for my friend?

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at August 01, 2023 03:46 PM (CecP5)

136 No, it was just because at that time, handset subsidies were vanishing and it was more cost-effective to get a cheap phone. They're being fiscally responsible.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 01, 2023 03:43 PM (t0OGg)

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And everybody knows that burner phones, like private jets, have a smaller carbon footprint.

Posted by: ShainS at August 01, 2023 03:46 PM (tYETB)

137 Wait have bums read your burner phone messages then kill him?

I think we've solved the problem of people experiencing homelessness.

Posted by: Regular joe at August 01, 2023 03:46 PM (nnp+f)

138 Alright, so I looked up this Jared Kushner/Saudi Arabia deal that has the left in a twist.

6 months after leaving the WH, the Saudi's invested $2 billion in Kushner's new investment firm, Affinity Partners. It supposedly now has a value of $2.5 billion total.

This is worse than Ukraine using laundered American funds to pay Joe Biden's son for access, or something, because Our Democracy.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 01, 2023 03:47 PM (LvTSG)

139 My brother works in cybersecurity and sometimes goes to “hacker” conferences. You want a burner phone if you go to one of those because you don’t want to be the sucker who is used as an example when people are showing off the fun exploits they found out about.

Posted by: Joe, living dangerously at August 01, 2023 03:47 PM (fKIdX)

140 A lot of blacks can't afford regular phones and use so-called "burner" phones. The correct term is "pre-paid." To assume the use of these is to conceal criminal activity is racist.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice
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So it's suspicious when rich people do it, right?

Posted by: Axeman at August 01, 2023 03:47 PM (krQz2)

141
Bill Clinton never had a cell phone. I wonder why?
Posted by: Puddinhead at August 01, 2023 03:44 PM (tiR3O)

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He has also never sent an email. The guy knows which channels to use.

Posted by: Joe Biden at August 01, 2023 03:47 PM (lCaJd)

142 124 Things are bad when you need a hobo and burner phones to conduct "business".
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 01, 2023 03:45 PM (KBA0C)


Soooo...what are you gonna do with the hobo when you're done?

Posted by: The Ewok at August 01, 2023 03:47 PM (N3zMI)

143 Similarly, I can't search for and find the "Biden's Improbable Victory" article that I linked here the other day.

It's like things no longer exist when the gate-keepers don't want you to read them.

I really dislike this timeline.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - The EPA has determined US has cooled since 1948 at August 01, 2023 03:45 PM (EEjVl)

That's why bookmarks in a non-Chrome browser are so valuable. Ideally, you won't use Google products at all. Even inferior searches with Yandex are better than relying on an oligarchy that hates you.

I'm not bothered because I already support Infogalactic and SocialGalactic. Yeah, they're relatively tiny communities, but at least I know they care about my priorities. Parler? Proud Boys? Of course they were always going to betray you.

Posted by: trev006 at August 01, 2023 03:47 PM (WVerd)

144 137 Wait have bums read your burner phone messages then kill him?

I think we've solved the problem of people experiencing homelessness.

Posted by: Regular joe
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Burner bums using burner phones?

Posted by: whig at August 01, 2023 03:47 PM (bk5GW)

145 Burner phones??

Better call Saul!

https://tinyurl.com/2p8chcxf
4 minutes

"information hygiene"
"cheaper than an audit... guaranteed"

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at August 01, 2023 03:47 PM (krqg6)

146 Things are bad when you need a hobo and burner phones to conduct "business".

It gets a bit more complicated once you recognize that the neighborhood is loaded with Ring cameras and ALPRs are installed all over the city.

ALPRs can very quickly determine not only license plate, but also make, model, color and year of vehicle. I know this because I have set up such installations and have another client that would like one.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 01, 2023 03:47 PM (p8A+W)

147 Where's my Bama phone !?

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 01, 2023 03:48 PM (NtVYv)

148 Likely I'll pass out soon from these back to back corruption exposures (with piddling media notice) causing me to yawn over the understanding that nothing - at all - of any true consequence will come to pass. Since Cankles still roaming the countryside free as a heifer, "checks and balances" has become a punchline.

Posted by: Son of Dad at August 01, 2023 03:48 PM (8JB5s)

149 Posted by: BurtTC at August 01, 2023 03:39 PM (dGCAG)

Are you serious?
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at August 01, 2023 03:40 PM (/3qrr)

Serious about what? That Republicans are going to step on their dicks here? Yes. Serious that this clown, Archer, is likely to turn out to be about as reliable as Avenati and the like, in the left's attempts to get Trump? Yes.

If you think that means I believe The Big Guy and his crackhead son aren't guilty of anything, that's not what I meant, and it's not what I'm saying.

I'm saying I don't trust Archer to have the goods, when it all gets played out. That's what I'm saying. And yes, I am serious. And don't call me Shirley.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 01, 2023 03:48 PM (dGCAG)

150 Reward the bum with fentanyl. That should do it.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 01, 2023 03:39 PM (YqDXo)

All the cool kids are using Tranq for this. Even if they live they won't be able to testify.

Posted by: Just Lily at August 01, 2023 03:48 PM (RLLZj)

151 just had a big white chocolate/ macadamia nut cookie

wuz goodz

Posted by: REDACTED at August 01, 2023 03:48 PM (us2H3)

152 141
Bill Clinton never had a cell phone. I wonder why?
Posted by: Puddinhead at August 01, 2023 03:44 PM (tiR3O)

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This sounds like the mob boss in Goodfellas.

Probably just a coincidence.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 01, 2023 03:48 PM (LvTSG)

153 Drug dealers use the same apps Hunter and Joe did, because drug dealers, famously, love talking about the weather, and/or "niceties."
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And for various other things, including business. Encryption is useful and if I had my way, all communications would be encrypted by default.

But there is a difference between encryption (privacy) and secrecy. If you're a government official, you should be engaging in *nothing* in secrecy. Privacy is fine, secrecy is not. But if you're a government official - as opposed to a private citizen - your privacy (encryption) must be reversible because you are accountable to the people. Anyone in government caught violating either - acting in secrecy *or* using non-reversible encryption - should be sent to prison for life without parole after the first violation.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 01, 2023 03:48 PM (t0OGg)

154 He couldn't of got a burner laptop because he would lose his selfie porn.

Posted by: DaveA at August 01, 2023 03:48 PM (FhXTo)

155 Fun Fact: modern face reco doesn't care what is below the mask.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 01, 2023 03:45 PM (p8A+W)


The software is not a fan of boobs, huh.

Posted by: spindrift at August 01, 2023 03:48 PM (iG1Nf)

156 I'll wait until Morning Mikka & Joe tell me what to think.

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 01, 2023 03:49 PM (4I/2K)

157 They are now panic mode because this could implement "Chocolate Jesus" in this whole Scam because only the POTUS can make the decisions that gave Biden the deals with these foreign countries !!!!!!!!!!!!


OBAMA KNOWS EVERYTHING !!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Ferd Berfall at August 01, 2023 03:49 PM (hSa/7)

158 149 If you think that means I believe The Big Guy and his crackhead son aren't guilty of anything, that's not what I meant, and it's not what I'm saying.

I'm saying I don't trust Archer to have the goods, when it all gets played out. That's what I'm saying. And yes, I am serious. And don't call me Shirley.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 01, 2023 03:48 PM (dGCAG)

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I don't think this is an unreasonable way to look at things. So many "sure fire" "kill shots" have ended up being nothing.

Hell, Archer could have the receipts and nothing could happen.

But, the question to keep asking is: Why did Hunter Biden go into business with a convicted criminal like Devon Archer?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 01, 2023 03:49 PM (LvTSG)

159 What is the weather like on Mars today Mr. President ????

Posted by: Ferd Berfall at August 01, 2023 03:49 PM (hSa/7)

160
The GOP could easily point out that Merrick Garland's DoJ is about as reliable and objective as the People's Court of Roland Freisler,
Posted by: trev006 at August 01, 2023 03:21 PM (WVerd)



Hi there.

Posted by: USAAF Eighth Air Force at August 01, 2023 03:50 PM (n+4am)

161 Posted by: BurtTC at August 01, 2023 03:48 PM (dGCAG)

Ah, I got you.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at August 01, 2023 03:50 PM (/3qrr)

162 Burner phones are cheap.

Putting minutes on them isn't.

Betcha these dipshits used their own credit cards to re-up.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 01, 2023 03:50 PM (9UlRk)

163 157 They are now panic mode because this could implement "Chocolate Jesus" in this whole Scam because only the POTUS can make the decisions that gave Biden the deals with these foreign countries !!!!!!!!!!!!


OBAMA KNOWS EVERYTHING !!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Ferd Berfall at August 01, 2023 03:49 PM (hSa/7)

========

What if I told you that everyone in leadership in the federal government, including all of their aides, are in on the corruption? Would you believe it? How does that affect the calculus of trying to "take down the whole thing"?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 01, 2023 03:50 PM (LvTSG)

164 What Joe and Hunter forgot to do with the burners...

https://tinyurl.com/2p9479ce
3:33 minutes

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at August 01, 2023 03:50 PM (krqg6)

165 138 Alright, so I looked up this Jared Kushner/Saudi Arabia deal that has the left in a twist.

6 months after leaving the WH, the Saudi's invested $2 billion in Kushner's new investment firm, Affinity Partners. It supposedly now has a value of $2.5 billion total.

This is worse than Ukraine using laundered American funds to pay Joe Biden's son for access, or something, because Our Democracy.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 01, 2023 03:47 PM (LvTSG)

Kushner for the Bidens? You're one hell of a negotiator. Sold!

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 01, 2023 03:51 PM (KbCG3)

166 I think we have to face it. We may never know why Hunter asked Devon to buy a burner phone.

God in Heaven may know, but we may have to live our lives with this question unanswered....

Posted by: Your Inspirational Moment at August 01, 2023 03:51 PM (krQz2)

167 "THERE'S NO EVIDENCE THAT HUNTER WAS A CRACK ADDICT ADDICT, H8RS -- REEEEEEEEEEEEEE!"

BTW, further " non-evidence" of criminality:

BidenSARS.com

Posted by: ShainS at August 01, 2023 03:51 PM (tYETB)

168 Here's another interesting trail:

The fappening was right in the middle of some of Hunter's worst.

Were those icloud photos hacked?

Independent confirmation of the laptop.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 01, 2023 03:52 PM (5jqeq)

169 I don't think this is an unreasonable way to look at things. So many "sure fire" "kill shots" have ended up being nothing.

Hell, Archer could have the receipts and nothing could happen.

But, the question to keep asking is: Why did Hunter Biden go into business with a convicted criminal like Devon Archer?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 01, 2023 03:49 PM (LvTSG)
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Yup. Archer is *so* perfect that it smells almost like an op and he has no paperwork to prove any of it.

But as you said, even if he does, it still doesn't matter.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 01, 2023 03:52 PM (t0OGg)

170 I have never heard but wouldn't doubt the Deep State has lots of Apps that can't be found otherwise

Posted by: Skip at August 01, 2023 03:52 PM (xhxe8)

171 157 They are now panic mode because this could implement "Chocolate Jesus" in this whole Scam because only the POTUS can make the decisions that gave Biden the deals with these foreign countries !!!!!!!!!!!!


OBAMA KNOWS EVERYTHING !!!!!!!!!!!!
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Well, he was Joe's boss for eight fucking years.

Posted by: Puddinhead at August 01, 2023 03:52 PM (ifUkZ)

172 I think smashing your government phone with a hammer seems to work the best.

Posted by: Hillary at August 01, 2023 03:52 PM (RLLZj)

173 No one needs 16 private, encrypted messaging apps unless they are engaged in some shady shit...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 01, 2023 03:37 PM (YIVH2)
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What if you don't want that super secret weather info to leak?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

precisely

Posted by: Mortimer Duke at August 01, 2023 03:52 PM (wuwH7)

174 just had a big white chocolate/ macadamia nut cookie

wuz goodz
Posted by: REDACTED at August 01, 2023 03:48 PM (us2H3)

Rayciss

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 01, 2023 03:52 PM (NtVYv)

175 My son is not a Crack Addict !!!! He likes to sniff Butt Cracks !!!

Posted by: Joe Biden at August 01, 2023 03:52 PM (hSa/7)

176 169 Yup. Archer is *so* perfect that it smells almost like an op and he has no paperwork to prove any of it.

But as you said, even if he does, it still doesn't matter.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 01, 2023 03:52 PM (t0OGg)

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They keep bringing up, "Devon Archer is a convicted felon," while never denying that he was in business with Hunter or had connections with Joe.

It's...weird.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 01, 2023 03:52 PM (LvTSG)

177 The House Committee needs to think about developing the DISproof of "innocent" explanations.

JB admits he demanded sacking of the Uke Prosecutor. Okay, demand the paperwork/discussion memos/emails how JB came to that decision.

What did JB mean by replacing with a "more solid" Prosecutor? Was the successor "more solid?" If so, how?
Demand any paper trail showing how the Biden /Obama people evaluated him.

If the "purpose" (per JB) was to get a "less corrupt" prosecutor, then where is the reaction from Team Biden after the new prosecutor discontinued investigating Burisma.

I think all these Dogs That Didn't Bark are at least as compelling as the positive evidence of participating in calls, and perhaps more so.

Posted by: Zek at August 01, 2023 03:53 PM (5FPX4)

178 I figure it'll be: A lot of blacks can't afford regular phones and use so-called "burner" phones. The correct term is "pre-paid." To assume the use of these is to conceal criminal activity is racist.

I agree. Of course when its Rich White People doing it, its pretty much to conceal a crime.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at August 01, 2023 03:53 PM (CecP5)

179 But I'm sure a federal agency throwing everything thing at who was operating a burner can figure it our pretty quickly.

I had semi literate Afghanistan LEOs making those connections pretty quick.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 01, 2023 03:53 PM (p8A+W)

180 My Tracfone costs $30 for 90 days service. I never had any other kind of cellphone, so I don't know how that price compares to non-burner cellphones.

Posted by: Rolling Donut Unharmed By gp's Flying Leap at August 01, 2023 03:53 PM (MvF+J)

181 I have to ask: there will be consequences, right?

Right?

Posted by: blaster at August 01, 2023 03:53 PM (8SAJV)

182 I think smashing your government phone with a hammer seems to work the best.
Posted by: Hillary at August 01, 2023 03:52 PM (RLLZj)
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Meh.

Posted by: Anthony Weiner at August 01, 2023 03:53 PM (t0OGg)

183 I'm saying I don't trust Archer to have the goods, when it all gets played out. That's what I'm saying. And yes, I am serious. And don't call me Shirley.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 01, 2023 03:48 PM (dGCAG)

It's all a circus.

Father's lurve. No reasonable prosecutor. Whaddabout Trump/DeSantis/Ramaswamy/Joe From Accounting. Whatever. Nothing will happen.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 01, 2023 03:53 PM (9UlRk)

184 174 just had a big white chocolate/ macadamia nut cookie

White Cocolate is RACIST !!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Joe Biden at August 01, 2023 03:53 PM (hSa/7)

185 Speaking of phones, when Barack Mugabe was dictator they ran ads on the local radio for folks to apply for food stamp assistance and for Obama phones. I called and the lady on the other end said no dice, I was a YT, made too much money and was not a split tail with chirruns coming out of my hoohaw.

I told her "but the ad told me to call" and she laughed.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 01, 2023 03:54 PM (5L/TD)

186 Impeach the bitch.

That would be a positive but it won't fix a damned thing. Most likely will make matters worse than they already are.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 01, 2023 03:54 PM (Xrfse)

187 and whatever you think of Trump's impeachments

they weakened him

Posted by: REDACTED at August 01, 2023 03:45 PM (us2H3)

The Mueller inquiry cost the GOP total control of Congress, but even that wasn't sufficient to get control of the Senate. Turtle had to openly sabotage Trump's ability to help the American people, before cheerfully turning around and letting Biden sign the cheques.

It's possible to claim that Donald Trump can't win elections, mostly because they're entirely controlled by foreign oligarchs like Soros and Bloomberg, but it's a little fuckin' rich coming from a "rebooting" team that has maybe 17% in the primary. And that 17% is going to evaporate once donors start wondering if Ramaswamy or even Doug Burghum could do better with a hundred million dollars.

Posted by: trev006 at August 01, 2023 03:54 PM (WVerd)

188 Burner Cell phone... turn on hot spot... use a VPN... video conferencing...

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 01, 2023 03:54 PM (oHd/0)

189 They are now panic mode because this could implement "Chocolate Jesus" in this whole Scam because only the POTUS can make the decisions that gave Biden the deals with these foreign countries !!!!!!!!!!!!
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Why do you think Obama told Joe not to run?

Of course Obama was in on it.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 01, 2023 03:54 PM (5jqeq)

190 They keep bringing up, "Devon Archer is a convicted felon," while never denying that he was in business with Hunter or had connections with Joe.

It's...weird.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 01, 2023 03:52 PM (LvTSG)

Archer is a convicted felon while Hunter is an admitted crack addict with no discernible skills to offer the many foreign interests throwing checks at him.

Why do you want to hate on this rags-to-riches, underdog success story?!

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 01, 2023 03:54 PM (KbCG3)

191 The use of encrypted messaging services is used by the DOJ as prima facie evidence of criminal intent for J6 defendants.

Posted by: blaster at August 01, 2023 03:54 PM (8SAJV)

192 Democrat logic:

If Republican: If I have documented statement or evidence that I can read into what I suspect, importing my entire chain of logic that I have built up over successive interpretations: I have evidence.

If Democrat: The President meant playfully "whack" the DA, you know like with a Nerf bat or something! Gah! You Republicans are just out for blood all the time!
Posted by: Axeman at August 01, 2023 03:46 PM (krQz2

I made a similar point years ago. I think it was when they went after Delay . Maybe not.

Anyway I said that according to the Left a Republican can say the exact words which are unambiguous and exactly what they meant but it’s not what they really meant as those exact words are code for something nefarious.

A Democrat can say something unambiguously awful but that’s not what they really meant and is only being twisted by their Republican opponents.

Posted by: polynikes at August 01, 2023 03:55 PM (MNhXM)

193 Maybe Devon is a jilted lover and him and Hunter were butt buddies

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 01, 2023 03:55 PM (NtVYv)

194 You might be wrong about the weather a time or two.

Republicans are probably going to pounce over that and have you impeached.

Thus encrypted, untraceable calls are important to make sure that niceties remain niceties, and that's all.

Posted by: Axeman at August 01, 2023 03:55 PM (krQz2)

195 182 I think smashing your government phone with a hammer seems to work the best.
Posted by: Hillary at August 01, 2023 03:52 PM (RLLZj)
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Meh.
Posted by: Anthony Weiner at August 01, 2023 03:53 PM (t0OGg)

Well, YMMV, obviously.

Posted by: Hillary at August 01, 2023 03:55 PM (RLLZj)

196 190 Archer is a convicted felon while Hunter is an admitted crack addict with no discernible skills to offer the many foreign interests throwing checks at him.

Why do you want to hate on this rags-to-riches, underdog success story?!
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 01, 2023 03:54 PM (KbCG3)

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The only logical solution is that crack addition teaches you management skills specialized for the oil business. Don't deny it, or you deny science.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 01, 2023 03:55 PM (LvTSG)

197 Why is Archer testifying, because he got convicted, and nobody else in the family business did. There is no great mystery involved.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at August 01, 2023 03:55 PM (CecP5)

198 184 174 just had a big white chocolate/ macadamia nut cookie

White Cocolate is RACIST !!!!!!!!!!
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Is this Pepperidge Farms?

Posted by: Puddinhead at August 01, 2023 03:56 PM (ifUkZ)

199 Now we're going to be hearing, "Burner? Like on a stove?"

Now you see why we want to ban them

Posted by: The Democrats at August 01, 2023 03:56 PM (lc5cP)

200 Oh boy. We're gonna need a LOT more meetings and commissions and FIERY Floor Speeches and committees and Strongly Worded Letters and another fifty billion dollars for Ukraine and hearings and meetings and commissions and even more FIERY Floor Speeches and committees and Strongly Worded Letters and hearings...

Posted by: GOP at August 01, 2023 03:56 PM (PWI4f)

201 But, the question to keep asking is: Why did Hunter Biden go into business with a convicted criminal like Devon Archer?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 01, 2023 03:49 PM (LvTSG)

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Networking.

Posted by: ShainS at August 01, 2023 03:56 PM (tYETB)

202
Verlander headed back to the Astros. The Mets, what a team.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 01, 2023 03:56 PM (MoZTd)

203 I think smashing your government phone with a hammer seems to work the best.
Posted by: Hillary at August 01, 2023 03:52 PM (RLLZj)
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Yup. And it's bullshit.

That said, this is the DoJ standard, so I am comfortable applying it to Biden. Plus, literally everything the Bidens have ever done stinks to high heaven. Encrypted messaging is not, on its own, evidence of anything. When you behave like the Bidens, though, it is another data point.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 01, 2023 03:56 PM (t0OGg)

204 It's like things no longer exist when the gate-keepers don't want you to read them.

I really dislike this timeline.
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That's why bookmarks in a non-Chrome browser are so valuable. Ideally, you won't use Google products at all. Even inferior searches with Yandex are better than relying on an oligarchy that hates you.

I'm not bothered because I already support Infogalactic and SocialGalactic. Yeah, they're relatively tiny communities, but at least I know they care about my priorities. Parler? Proud Boys? Of course they were always going to betray you.
Posted by: trev006

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I'm not really that annoyed that I can't easily pull up information, but more that I know that if I can't pull up information - while knowing the topic and using keywords and direct quotes from the page itself - LIVs who are casually searching will never, ever be exposed to the information.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The EPA has determined US has cooled since 1948 at August 01, 2023 03:56 PM (x7OL5)

205 Wow, blast from the recent past. Hope your move back from the Southlands worked out well.
Posted by: whig at August 01, 2023 03:36 PM (bk5GW)

Going well thanks. Been super busy. New girlfriend, new job, etc. Hope all is well with you and everyone else!

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 01, 2023 03:56 PM (mj0Qp)

206 "'m in the no impeachment camp.

Keep investigating. Keep producing this evidence. Keep Joe at the forefront of the party. Force him to address these allegations. Force the media to cover for him. Force the Ds to wear this anchor in front of every camera in the nation.

Do not let them off the hook with a show trial that will produce nothing but sympathy for the old c*nt.

Sorry, no way. This is why we have impeachment. Biden is as corrupt as any President ever, and should be impeached and removed. Just because the Dems cheapened it and used it to fundraise doesn't mean it's not important.

Posted by: UGAdawg at August 01, 2023 03:56 PM (tRd71)

207 Penny ante street thug. Garbage human being and therefore the perfect representative of the Regime

Posted by: Ex GOP at August 01, 2023 03:57 PM (ExFoQ)

208 Crack long division is the pits.

Posted by: Rolling Donut Unharmed By gp's Flying Leap at August 01, 2023 03:57 PM (MvF+J)

209 Has the House Committee demanded an explanation of payments made by foreigners to JB's grandkids?

What conceivably innocent explanation can he offer?


Posted by: Zek at August 01, 2023 03:57 PM (5FPX4)

210 They keep bringing up, "Devon Archer is a convicted felon," while never denying that he was in business with Hunter or had connections with Joe.

It's...weird.
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From the same people that gleefully cite all the Trump associates that have been charged as proof Trump is a criminal.....

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 01, 2023 03:57 PM (5jqeq)

211 This brunette golfette is pretty sure that the Bidens are pretty damned dirty:
https://is.gd/1a1anV

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 01, 2023 03:57 PM (t0OGg)

212 The apps included Signal, Chinese messaging app WeChat, and Wickr,

*sobs alone*

Posted by: PGP at August 01, 2023 03:57 PM (ufFY8)

213
But, the question to keep asking is: Why did Hunter Biden go into business with a convicted criminal like Devon Archer?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 01, 2023 03:49 PM (LvTSG)


He... he... he was doing research into white-collar crime in America! He was writing a book!


Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 01, 2023 03:57 PM (MoZTd)

214 They'll round up Archer's family, force him to recant and throw him in jail for perjury, and Hunter will be named ambassador to Colombia.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 01, 2023 03:57 PM (9UlRk)

215 The media's willful "Epstein was running an orphanage for those girls on that Island" level of ignoring Biden family crimes is pathetic.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at August 01, 2023 03:58 PM (CecP5)

216 211 This brunette golfette is pretty sure that the Bidens are pretty damned dirty:
https://is.gd/1a1anV
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 01, 2023 03:57 PM (t0OGg)

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Seems to be slightly bosseyed.

3/10

Would not bang.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 01, 2023 03:58 PM (LvTSG)

217 This brunette golfette is pretty sure that the Bidens are pretty damned dirty:
https://is.gd/1a1anV
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 01, 2023 03:57 PM (t0OGg)

Nice skin.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at August 01, 2023 03:58 PM (ufFY8)

218 Going well thanks. Been super busy. New girlfriend, new job, etc. Hope all is well with you and everyone else!
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
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Have fun, you earned it.

Posted by: whig at August 01, 2023 03:58 PM (bk5GW)

219 It's like things no longer exist when the gate-keepers don't want you to read them.
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Start saving your links into a text file. Or if you know how a bare-bones HTML (so you can click on the links).

But still, the material could disappear, and so the safest thing is to save the webpages themselves, if browsers still offer that service.

Posted by: Axeman at August 01, 2023 03:58 PM (krQz2)

220 'corrupt' Ukrainian gas firm Burisma

There's no evidence of that, Jack. We had the prosecutor fired!

Posted by: Joe Biden at August 01, 2023 03:58 PM (CaJIi)

221 Seems to be slightly bosseyed.

3/10

Would not bang.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 01, 2023 03:58 PM (LvTSG)
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What is "bosseyed?"

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 01, 2023 03:58 PM (t0OGg)

222 202
Verlander headed back to the Astros. The Mets, what a team.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 01, 2023 03:56 PM (MoZTd)

I see where they're losing Mad Max, too.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at August 01, 2023 03:59 PM (N3zMI)

223 221 What is "bosseyed?"
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 01, 2023 03:58 PM (t0OGg

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I believe it's how the British say cross-eyed.

I learned it on The IT Crowd.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 01, 2023 03:59 PM (LvTSG)

224 Burner phones? So what? Every hobbit has a burner phone or thirteen in The Shire.

Posted by: Schillbo Baggins at August 01, 2023 03:59 PM (ppBhU)

225 Sorry, no way. This is why we have impeachment. Biden is as corrupt as any President ever, and should be impeached and removed. Just because the Dems cheapened it and used it to fundraise doesn't mean it's not important.

Posted by: UGAdawg at August 01, 2023 03:56 PM (tRd71)

From a law and order standpoint, yes. But this isn't being done in a vacuum.

It will ultimately lead to nothing and will likely backfire.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 01, 2023 03:59 PM (KbCG3)

226 This brunette golfette is pretty sure that the Bidens are pretty damned dirty:

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Which is why we have to take our showers where we can get them!

Posted by: President Charlie Foxtrot at August 01, 2023 03:59 PM (krQz2)

227 I figure it'll be: A lot of blacks can't afford regular phones and use so-called "burner" phones. The correct term is "pre-paid." To assume the use of these is to conceal criminal activity is racist.

I agree. Of course when its Rich White People doing it, its pretty much to conceal a crime.

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Yep.

When your main phone is a $300/month satellite-capable phone because you're making $10M deals left and right, you don't go to Walmart to buy a Tracfone because you need to place a local call without it using up your minutes.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The EPA has determined US has cooled since 1948 at August 01, 2023 04:00 PM (x7OL5)

228 Bosseyed > bosseared.

Posted by: Rolling Donut Unharmed By gp's Flying Leap at August 01, 2023 04:00 PM (MvF+J)

229 I'm not really that annoyed that I can't easily pull up information, but more that I know that if I can't pull up information - while knowing the topic and using keywords and direct quotes from the page itself - LIVs who are casually searching will never, ever be exposed to the information.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - The EPA has determined US has cooled since 1948 at August 01, 2023 03:56 PM (x7OL5)

And that's a reasonable concern, but you don't have a homogenous society where benevolent leaders could make sure your side of events gets out. Depending on your age, maybe you never did. This is why social engagement, online activity, and mass movements are so important. That's why it's absolutely fucking ludicrous to throw President Donald Trump over the side, compared to an absolute simp who couldn't score in a strip club with a suitcase full of hundos.

Posted by: trev006 at August 01, 2023 04:00 PM (WVerd)

230 Keep investigating. Keep producing this evidence. Keep Joe at the forefront of the party. Force him to address these allegations. Force the media to cover for him. Force the Ds to wear this anchor in front of every camera in the nation.
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Every time Joe has to address this is another chance he will blow his top.
He is extremely sensitive to attacks on Hunter.
Why do you think he had him publicly appear at the WH after the coke was found? To send a message: Back off.

We keep this up and he's going to McConnell.
Or start cursing wildly.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 01, 2023 04:01 PM (5jqeq)

231 JJ only discusses controlling the weather with the Weather Jews on a burner phone, so I can see why.

Posted by: Joey Sausage at August 01, 2023 04:02 PM (or2+y)

232 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 01, 2023 03:47 PM (LvTSG)

Kushner was always bad news for Trump IMO. And if he intended to solicit business partners after his stint at the White House then he should have not been allowed in any position at the White House.

He also was the one who helped put together that awful prison reform bill.

Posted by: polynikes at August 01, 2023 04:02 PM (MNhXM)

233 We keep this up and he's going to McConnell.
Or start cursing wildly.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 01, 2023 04:01 PM (5jqeq)

"You're not an Asian woman! I ordered an Asian woman!"

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 01, 2023 04:02 PM (9UlRk)

234 Posted by: trev006 at August 01, 2023 04:00 PM (WVerd)

Yup, for a few years the Internet was the greatest source of Free information ever.

But those in power suddenly understood that he who controls the search, controls most of the information.

Which is why search engines now suck.

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 01, 2023 04:02 PM (oHd/0)

235 When your main phone is a $300/month satellite-capable phone because you're making $10M deals left and right, you don't go to Walmart to buy a Tracfone because you need to place a local call without it using up your minutes.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - The EPA has determined US has cooled since 1948 at August 01, 2023 04:00 PM (x7OL5)
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Yup. The Bidens using burner phones is suspicious on its face.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 01, 2023 04:03 PM (t0OGg)

236
Alright, so I looked up this Jared Kushner/Saudi Arabia deal that has the left in a twist.

6 months after leaving the WH, the Saudi's invested $2 billion in Kushner's new investment firm, Affinity Partners. It supposedly now has a value of $2.5 billion total.

This is worse than Ukraine using laundered American funds to pay Joe Biden's son for access, or something, because Our Democracy.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir

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I'm trying to read up about that because I'm arguing with an idiot on X (I know, what a waste of time).

For now, can anyone tell me what the Oversight committee found on Jared in 2022 -- when they were run by the Dems? Nothing?

https://tinyurl.com/3sy8dwn9

Posted by: Joe Biden at August 01, 2023 04:03 PM (lCaJd)

237 But, the question to keep asking is: Why did Hunter Biden go into business with a convicted criminal like Devon Archer?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 01, 2023 03:49 PM (LvTSG)

Yes, a fantastic question, and just like everything else so far, makes for good political theater.

Gah, I don't want to sound like one of those "nothing will happen" people, it's just I've already gotten tired of seeing Archer's face, and hearing his name.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 01, 2023 04:03 PM (dGCAG)

238 Every time Joe has to address this is another chance he will blow his top.
He is extremely sensitive to attacks on Hunter.


Hunter is also very apt to blow his top

I want them both on the stand answering questions

they'd lose it, either one of them

Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 01, 2023 04:03 PM (AcWfM)

239 It's like things no longer exist when the gate-keepers don't want you to read them.
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Start saving your links into a text file. Or if you know how a bare-bones HTML (so you can click on the links).

But still, the material could disappear, and so the safest thing is to save the webpages themselves, if browsers still offer that service.
Posted by: Axeman

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The problem remains that it doesn't help John Smith, conservative-curious now that his savings have disappeared and he can barely feed his family and wondering what all the fuss is about Hunter and Joe's burner phones, from being able to read the sites.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The EPA has determined US has cooled since 1948 at August 01, 2023 04:03 PM (x7OL5)

240 It will ultimately lead to nothing and will likely backfire.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer


"Backfire" how, exactly? Because if you're thinking of clean Presidents getting impeached in retaliation, hoo boy, have I got a news flash for you...

Posted by: Brother Tim sez Max Headroom for President! at August 01, 2023 04:03 PM (OUMaO)

241 It can't be a crime!

They're white!

Posted by: XTC at August 01, 2023 04:03 PM (UnA8+)

242 Keep Joe at the forefront of the party. Force him to address these allegations. Force the media to cover for him. Force the Ds to wear this anchor in front of every camera in the nation.
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Time to broaden the search to include Hillary, Nuland and Sparky. Sparky was running the shit show for 8 years. Might as well rub some noses in their own filth to make the Dems go full ape shit.

Posted by: Puddinhead at August 01, 2023 04:04 PM (DmtxH)

243 Why was Hunter Biden on the Burisma board?

Was he an expert on oil and gas? Nope.

Was he a financial genius? Nope.

Did he speak Ukrainian? Nope.

Ever been to Ukraine? Nope.

Did he invest a bunch of money? Nope.

Knowing absolutely nothing about the business, he got a seat on the board. And paid ahem, very well for that.

Bank records show he got $708,000 in 1.5 years for his board seat, and $3.15 million for consulting services, as well as a series of other payments, ranging from $10k to $150k.

the average pay for a board seat in the US is $78,000/year.

Posted by: Mr. Winnefred T Pooh. at August 01, 2023 04:04 PM (nJ1bF)

244 233 We keep this up and he's going to McConnell.
Or start cursing wildly.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 01, 2023 04:01 PM (5jqeq)

"You're not an Asian woman! I ordered an Asian woman!"
Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 01, 2023 04:02 PM (9UlRk)

That's what I should have done...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at August 01, 2023 04:04 PM (xcxpd)

245 I'm gonna pull a muscle with all this pouncing and seizing!

Posted by: LASue at August 01, 2023 04:04 PM (Ed8Zd)

246 Burt yes Archer is a douche as well

Hunt looked up to him because he was a real actual WASP, and a bit older (like Beau) but treated him decently (unlike Beau)

these are not nice people

but when they turn on each other, and they will if we can keep up the pressure, it will be fun time for all

Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 01, 2023 04:04 PM (AcWfM)

247 10 What I want is .....all the pain in the world that this demented dumbass can muster, because it MIGHT be enough to wake up enough people to stop voting for this evil. Maybe.
Posted by: Mr. Fabulist at August 01, 2023 03:22 PM (7VCus)

This is why I look forward to Kamala assuming the presidency.....,,

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan at August 01, 2023 04:04 PM (izaic)

248 ... Knowing absolutely nothing about the business, he got a seat on the board. And paid ahem, very well for that. ...
Posted by: Mr. Winnefred T Pooh. at August 01, 2023 04:04 PM (nJ1bF)
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He didn't know things, he knew people.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 01, 2023 04:05 PM (t0OGg)

249 @234: "Which is why search engines now suck."

SEO scammers didn't help matters either.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at August 01, 2023 04:05 PM (k1Qly)

250 "You're not an Asian woman! I ordered an Asian woman!"

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 01, 2023 04:02 PM (9UlRk)

Ok, I laughed.

Posted by: Joey Sausage at August 01, 2023 04:05 PM (or2+y)

251 Thing is, they trusted the crack head son of a corrupt idiot. They were too stupid not to get caught grifting.

Posted by: Mr. Winnefred T Pooh. at August 01, 2023 04:05 PM (nJ1bF)

252 They didn't say WH coke bag had fentanyl in it. These days, only elites can get pure drugs without the fentanyl cut. HB is elite.

Posted by: Rolling Donut Unharmed By gp's Flying Leap at August 01, 2023 04:05 PM (MvF+J)

253 240 It will ultimately lead to nothing and will likely backfire.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer

"Backfire" how, exactly? Because if you're thinking of clean Presidents getting impeached in retaliation, hoo boy, have I got a news flash for you...
Posted by: Brother Tim sez Max Headroom for President! at August 01, 2023 04:03 PM (OUMaO)

Backfire as in, Joe suddenly becomes a sympathetic figure because all of the dems and MSM (redundant, I know) rally around him. He starts looking and acting even more frail and now it's the big, bad republicans who are pushing this once great man into an early grave.

To say nothing of the fact that I would guess a majority of Americans are just tired of this impeachment stuff and will punish the party conducting it.

Also, he won't be convicted in the Senate.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 01, 2023 04:06 PM (KbCG3)

254 One-time pads. Easy and with very few chances for de-encryption. Fuck voice comms.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at August 01, 2023 04:06 PM (BdMk6)

255 Backfire as in, Joe suddenly becomes a sympathetic figure because all of the dems and MSM (redundant, I know) rally around him. He starts looking and acting even more frail and now it's the big, bad republicans who are pushing this once great man into an early grave.


the only way this happens is if they kill off Hunter

Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 01, 2023 04:07 PM (AcWfM)

256 ... Knowing absolutely nothing about the business, he got a seat on the board. And paid ahem, very well for that. ...
Posted by: Mr. Winnefred T Pooh. at August 01, 2023 04:04 PM (nJ1bF)
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He didn't know things, he knew people.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 01, 2023 04:05 PM (t0OGg)

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One might even call it "influence peddling."

/I almost spelled that "pedaling"

Posted by: ShainS at August 01, 2023 04:07 PM (tYETB)

257 One-time pads. Easy and with very few chances for de-encryption. Fuck voice comms.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at August 01, 2023 04:06 PM (BdMk6)
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Dead drops and one-time ciphers work. Russia, IIRC, went back to using them for a while after it came out just how much encryption the NSA could break or bypass courtesy of the telcos.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 01, 2023 04:07 PM (t0OGg)

258 "Hunter is a private citizen. Hunter is a private citizen. Hunter is a private citizen....."

....who gets chauffeured to his latest plea deal by 8 government owned battle-ready war wagons.

Posted by: H8_the_deepstate at August 01, 2023 04:07 PM (5hDOm)

259 But those in power suddenly understood that he who controls the search, controls most of the information.

Which is why search engines now suck.


That and companies sprung up like mushrooms promising to raise your search-engine rankings. They learned how to game the algorithms. Then it was cat and mouse for over a decade as everyone from dentists to vbloggers were looking for ways to get more hits.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 01, 2023 04:08 PM (p8A+W)

260 81 No one needs 16 private, encrypted messaging apps unless they are engaged in some shady shit...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 01, 2023 03:37 PM (YIVH2)


I admit to being rather shocked at the bolded text above.

There's a whole raft of things under the leftist rubric of "no one needs..." that are quite, as they say, "problematic".

I do invite you to extend or re-phrase.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf A2E6, Easy 6 Titanium Enhanced at August 01, 2023 04:08 PM (8C7+r)

261 the Bidens are barely smart enough to do normal "burners" you guys have to realize their limitations

and they still needed an assistant with a spreadsheet to keep track

Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 01, 2023 04:08 PM (AcWfM)

262 253 Backfire as in, Joe suddenly becomes a sympathetic figure because all of the dems and MSM (redundant, I know) rally around him. He starts looking and acting even more frail and now it's the big, bad republicans who are pushing this once great man into an early grave.

To say nothing of the fact that I would guess a majority of Americans are just tired of this impeachment stuff and will punish the party conducting it.

Also, he won't be convicted in the Senate.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 01, 2023 04:06 PM (KbCG3)

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It's been obvious since the 1860s that impeachment was one of the major flaws of the constitution. It's too weak, the barriers too high, and the process takes too long.

If Congress couldn't convict Andrew Johnson at the nadir of his president, they'll never successfully convict any president. I think history would be very different if Congress had done it. Imagine FDR with a Congress that has a history of actually removing presidents.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 01, 2023 04:08 PM (LvTSG)

263 Keep the pressure up on Joe in hopes he's going to go all Queeg in front of the cameras is a triple bank shot.

Subpoena Garland and Wray and impeach them for contempt or lying to Congress.

Impeach Biden.

Posted by: blaster at August 01, 2023 04:08 PM (8SAJV)

264 All this talk of burner phones wounds my heart with a monotonous languor.

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 01, 2023 04:08 PM (4I/2K)

265 And that's a reasonable concern, but you don't have a homogenous society where benevolent leaders could make sure your side of events gets out. Depending on your age, maybe you never did.

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Yeah, that's probably the worst part of it. I got online around 94, went through the wild west, the kazaas and napsters and every website being bad and different, and then around 2002 or so I was able to find ANYTHING using Google. And then around 2005 Facebook started walling off the gardens, and then walled gardens appeared everywhere. Comment sections, substacks, etc. are almost entirely invisible, and tons of information was deleted (comment sections closed) or otherwise disappeared, or was blocked off from access.

It's like slowly losing your vision, and it sucks. Especially because you know it's because your eyes are being gouged out.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The EPA has determined US has cooled since 1948 at August 01, 2023 04:09 PM (x7OL5)

266 I'm gonna pull a muscle with all this pouncing and seizing!
Posted by: LASue at August 01, 2023 04:04 PM

Like cats at a laser show.

Posted by: Minnfidel at August 01, 2023 04:09 PM (eqKLj)

267 One-time pads. Easy and with very few chances for de-encryption. Fuck voice comms.

With a drugged-out screwup like Hunter?

He can't even remember to pick up his laptop with tons of incriminating evidence on it, let alone pick up his cocaine in the White House.

He'd forget, and leave the one-time pads somewhere.

Posted by: A Provocative Parade Of Perverts! at August 01, 2023 04:09 PM (2tUFv)

268 the only way this happens is if they kill off Hunter

So he goes on the AoSHQ deadpool?

Do we break it down as to how?

I'm putting my marker down on fentanyl laced cocaine.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 01, 2023 04:09 PM (p8A+W)

269 If there is one thing Joe Biden can never elicit from anyone, it's sympathy.

Even the people who vote and support the old bastard know he's a dirty, rotten, mean, sexually perverted SOB.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 01, 2023 04:10 PM (5L/TD)

270 the only way this happens is if they kill off Hunter

Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 01, 2023 04:07 PM (AcWfM)

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"None of this would have happened if a gang of Ultra MAGAts hadn't murdered Beau in Iraq."

Posted by: ShainS at August 01, 2023 04:10 PM (tYETB)

271 I don't fear backfire so much as apathy - all the info comes out, no one does anything, nothing happens, left cheats it's way to another win in '24.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 01, 2023 04:10 PM (1Zr/P)

272 Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 01, 2023 04:06 PM (KbCG3)

That’s on the voter.

I liken it to allowing shoplifters to steal with no chance of consequences.

But admittedly I want direct evidence as opposed to the 1 or 2 degrees of separation we have now.

Posted by: polynikes at August 01, 2023 04:10 PM (MNhXM)

273
Trump could make hay of this at a public appearance. Even at the presidential debates if he gets that far.

Moderator: "Did you dismiss climate change in a call with the oil industry?"

Trump: "No. I don't have a Tracfone."

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 01, 2023 04:10 PM (lCaJd)

274 ;It will ultimately lead to nothing and will likely backfire.

Here is what is guaranteed to lead to nothing and result in the destruction of the country: DOING NOTHING.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at August 01, 2023 04:10 PM (CecP5)

275 271 I don't fear backfire so much as apathy - all the info comes out, no one does anything, nothing happens, left cheats it's way to another win in '24.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 01, 2023 04:10 PM (1Zr/P)

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You want apathy?

I give you America laying down to six cities stealing a national election in the open.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 01, 2023 04:10 PM (LvTSG)

276 but when they turn on each other, and they will if we can keep up the pressure, it will be fun time for all
Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 01, 2023 04:04 PM (AcWfM)

I guess I don't find it fun. Part of it is my conspiratorial mind, that wants to ask the question, why now. Hunter is a nothing, a nobody, which of course is why everyone SHOULD know none of what he was doing could have been done without his dad being involved.

But part of me thinks the Republicans are playing Washington Generals here... again... still. They're going to play this out, and maybe Joe gets pushed out. Great, and then we get Gavin Newsome or some other piece of shit Democrat to replace the pants shitting imbecile in there right now. I don't think that's a win.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 01, 2023 04:10 PM (dGCAG)

277 Time to broaden the search to include Hillary, Nuland and Sparky. Sparky was running the shit show for 8 years. Might as well rub some noses in their own filth to make the Dems go full ape shit.

I'm untouchable. What don't you understand about that?

Posted by: Baracky O'Cracky at August 01, 2023 04:11 PM (Xrfse)

278 274 ;It will ultimately lead to nothing and will likely backfire.

Here is what is guaranteed to lead to nothing and result in the destruction of the country: DOING NOTHING.
Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at August 01, 2023 04:10 PM (CecP5)

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Since the federal government is now inured from feedback from the electorate, that's a fait accompli at this point.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 01, 2023 04:11 PM (LvTSG)

279 269 If there is one thing Joe Biden can never elicit from anyone, it's sympathy.

Even the people who vote and support the old bastard know he's a dirty, rotten, mean, sexually perverted SOB.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 01, 2023 04:10 PM (5L/TD)

But do they?

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 01, 2023 04:11 PM (KbCG3)

280 They knew all this and stole the election with him anyway. And Republicans played along. And they knee too.

Posted by: ... at August 01, 2023 04:11 PM (oEVuk)

281 Backfire as in, Joe suddenly becomes a sympathetic figure because all of the dems and MSM (redundant, I know) rally around him. He starts looking and acting even more frail and now it's the big, bad republicans who are pushing this once great man into an early grave.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 01, 2023 04:06 PM (KbCG3)
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In addition, you're expecting enough members of the Party of Will-to-Power in the Senate to cross and form the 2/3rds needed for the unprecedented development of being the first Party with a President removed from office.

The same way I thought Republicans had to be fools to vote to remove, even if they hated Trump, the Democrats are already there in shrewdness.

"Watergate", or the scandal that caused the first President to resign, is still big in defining the parties.

You could hear it in the Clinton trial "Well, your party is the Party of Watergate!"

Posted by: President Charlie Foxtrot at August 01, 2023 04:11 PM (krQz2)

282 I admit to being rather shocked at the bolded text above.

There's a whole raft of things under the leftist rubric of "no one needs..." that are quite, as they say, "problematic".

I do invite you to extend or re-phrase.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf A2E6

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I'm completely fine saying that no one who receives Secret Service protection and operates as a government agent with government clearances should be operating with encrypted / self-deleting apps on burner phones.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The EPA has determined US has cooled since 1948 at August 01, 2023 04:11 PM (x7OL5)

283 Looking forward to the desperate sweaty fat-fingered almost-readable attempt at deflection this will elicit from Paul.
Posted by: spindrift at August 01, 2023 03:28 PM (iG1Nf)

Classic.

Posted by: LASue at August 01, 2023 04:11 PM (Ed8Zd)

284 the deck needs shuffling

the board needs flipping

otherwise the times will be burning

Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 01, 2023 04:12 PM (AcWfM)

285 the only way this happens is if they kill off Hunter

Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 01, 2023 04:07 PM (AcWfM)

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Put me down for "Post-Traumatic Hyoid Disorder."

Posted by: ShainS at August 01, 2023 04:12 PM (tYETB)

286 He needed 16 phones because he's a crack head and couldn't remember where he left them?

Posted by: Minnfidel at August 01, 2023 04:12 PM (eqKLj)

287
"Nice weather we're having, but I'm told that we're in for a bit off a blow later on."

-- a totally on the up-and-up phone conversation between Hunter and his HVAC contractor

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 01, 2023 04:12 PM (cPMHg)

288 Even the people who vote and support the old bastard know he's a dirty, rotten, mean, sexually perverted SOB.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 01, 2023 04:10 PM (5L/TD)


They think those are his good qualities.

Posted by: blaster at August 01, 2023 04:12 PM (8SAJV)

289 Devon Archer is still alive?


Those Bidens are pikers.

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at August 01, 2023 04:12 PM (k54EX)

290 Big Trouble For Little Lizardo

NBC News
@NBCNews
JUST IN: Lizzo sued over claims she created a hostile work environment where former dancers say they were weight-shamed and sexually harassed.

https://tinyurl.com/2c596epz

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 01, 2023 04:13 PM (FVME7)

291 Looking forward to the desperate sweaty fat-fingered almost-readable attempt at deflection this will elicit from Paul.
Posted by: spindrift at August 01, 2023 03:28 PM

Tell him to hit the showers.

Posted by: Minnfidel at August 01, 2023 04:13 PM (eqKLj)

292 Here is what is guaranteed to lead to nothing and result in the destruction of the country: DOING NOTHING.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at August 01, 2023 04:10 PM (CecP5)
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You're assuming America is resuscitable.

I mean, I like that assumption.

Posted by: Axeman at August 01, 2023 04:13 PM (krQz2)

293 If Congress couldn't convict Andrew Johnson at the nadir of his president, they'll never successfully convict any president. I think history would be very different if Congress had done it. Imagine FDR with a Congress that has a history of actually removing presidents.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 01, 2023 04:08 PM (LvTSG)

That impeachment attempt was as wrong as the Trump impeachments. That’s why he wasn’t convicted. Just one vote short IIRC.

Posted by: polynikes at August 01, 2023 04:13 PM (MNhXM)

294 As always, two Hordes in one:

We can't do that, it would hurt us in elections, the elections that are rigged and we can never win.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at August 01, 2023 04:13 PM (ppBhU)

295 274 ;It will ultimately lead to nothing and will likely backfire.

Here is what is guaranteed to lead to nothing and result in the destruction of the country: DOING NOTHING.
Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at August 01, 2023 04:10 PM (CecP5)

Yeah, but I'm not calling for them to do nothing. They need to keep the heat on. Keep forcing them to address these things. Keep forcing the likes of Goldman to produce these hilarious lies.

Just keep digging your thumb into their eye sockets.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 01, 2023 04:13 PM (KbCG3)

296 NBC News
@NBCNews
JUST IN: Lizzo sued over claims she created a hostile work environment where former dancers say they were weight-shamed and sexually harassed.

https://tinyurl.com/2c596epz
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 01, 2023 04:13 PM

Lizardo's BMI is measured in gravitational pull.

Posted by: Minnfidel at August 01, 2023 04:13 PM (eqKLj)

297 Looking forward to the desperate sweaty fat-fingered almost-readable attempt at deflection this will elicit from Paul.

Posted by: spindrift at August 01, 2023 03:28 PM
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It will be as if Daniel Goldman, himself, had entered the chat.

Posted by: Axeman at August 01, 2023 04:14 PM (krQz2)

298 I, for one, would like to know if Mitt Romney's kid and Nancy Pelosi's kid had any interaction with Hunter. They all worked for Burisma but don't remember timelines.

Posted by: Usedtocould at August 01, 2023 04:14 PM (LRa30)

299 293 That impeachment attempt was as wrong as the Trump impeachments. That’s why he wasn’t convicted. Just one vote short IIRC.
Posted by: polynikes at August 01, 2023 04:13 PM (MNhXM)

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He was wildly unpopular and completely fucked up Reconstruction. Never mind the legality of the impeachment, which is inherently a political act, if they couldn't do it to him, they can't do it to anyone.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 01, 2023 04:14 PM (LvTSG)

300 That feeling you get when Columbia arrests the son of a sitting politician while Hunter goes free for the same crimes ....

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 01, 2023 04:14 PM (5jqeq)

301 >>He needed 16 phones because

One phone wasn't enough to communicate his Father's Unconditional Love

Posted by: garrett at August 01, 2023 04:14 PM (k54EX)

302 I almost admire the audacity of corruption. It took a while but overt corruption of our government is now the norm and occupies the Oval Office.

It's all out in the open and laughing at us.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at August 01, 2023 04:14 PM (2YtOq)

303 The hurricane is in the closet.

I repeat: the hurricane is in the closet.

Posted by: Biden Encrypted Weather Reports! at August 01, 2023 04:15 PM (2tUFv)

304 JUST IN: Lizzo sued over claims she created a hostile work environment where former dancers say they were weight-shamed and sexually harassed.

That's awful. Anyway...

Posted by: Baracky O'Cracky at August 01, 2023 04:15 PM (Xrfse)

305 302 I almost admire the audacity of corruption. It took a while but overt corruption of our government is now the norm and occupies the Oval Office.

It's all out in the open and laughing at us.
Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at August 01, 2023 04:14 PM (2YtOq)

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They put a guy who dressed up as a dog in a dress as a nuclear disposal guy with security clearance.

We are very much in the Satyricon stage of America.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 01, 2023 04:15 PM (LvTSG)

306 I, for one, would like to know if Mitt Romney's kid and Nancy Pelosi's kid had any interaction with Hunter. They all worked for Burisma but don't remember timelines.
Posted by: Usedtocould at August 01, 2023 04:14 PM

Hunter,..Mitt's kid is on line 15, should I take a message?

Posted by: Minnfidel at August 01, 2023 04:15 PM (eqKLj)

307 Page Six
@PageSixx
Lizzo forced dancers to ‘eat bananas’ from sex workers’ vaginas during Amsterdam trip: bombshell lawsuit

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Ahh. Banana splits.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 01, 2023 04:16 PM (FVME7)

308 The hurricane is in the closet.

I repeat: the hurricane is in the closet.
Posted by: Biden Encrypted Weather Reports! at August 01, 2023 04:15 PM (2tUFv)

Key Largo!

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 01, 2023 04:16 PM (4I/2K)

309 294 As always, two Hordes in one:

We can't do that, it would hurt us in elections, the elections that are rigged and we can never win.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at August 01, 2023 04:13 PM (ppBhU)

To give yourself the best shot at overcoming a steal, you need to limit the foundation the dems have to steal with. That's why I'm still in favor of acting like elections matter.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 01, 2023 04:16 PM (KbCG3)

310 President Trump's phone calls are leaked to the press, how many times now?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 01, 2023 04:17 PM (5jqeq)

311 >>Now we're going to be hearing, "Burner? Like on a stove?"

Jim Jordan: So, Mr. Strozk, when Miss Page said to you Donald Trump cannot be President and you said, and I quote, "He won't be, We have a backup plan." What did you mean exactly?

Stroke, Struck, Smirk, Schmuck: Congressman, I was simply referring to Norton 360 and how much of a difference it's made in my life and how it could, perhaps help Miss Page as well.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 01, 2023 04:17 PM (up/3i)

312 One phone wasn't enough to communicate his Father's Unconditional Love

lol

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 01, 2023 04:17 PM (Xrfse)

313 So, ehh, off topic but in the long run probably more impactful to many here than whatever the Bidens did that they'll never go to jail for anyways;

I have a lot of things I do that rely on unusual products made by small businesses. Additive manufacturing, CNC stuff, machine tools, custom automotive parts, plus lots of niche outdoors products. The high quality, made-in-USA type.

This stuff is straight up vanishing. And it's not because of supply issues, although that doesn't help. It's because all of the people that run these businesses and make these products are fucking dying left and right. I just, finally, found yet another product that is *exactly* what I needed, and have been searching for for months, only to find that the owner died suddenly a few months ago with little warning, and there was nobody able to pick up the pieces.

This does not bode well for many things. It is bonkers to stand in my shop and rotate in a circle and call out various items whose makers have died in the last couple of years.

Posted by: somedood at August 01, 2023 04:17 PM (BaGvt)

314 JUST IN: Lizzo sued over claims she created a hostile work environment

That was some weird shit in that link.

And, for the record, Lizzie is a Zero.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at August 01, 2023 04:17 PM (ufFY8)

315 As always, two Hordes in one:

We can't do that, it would hurt us in elections, the elections that are rigged and we can never win.


Irritating, in'nt.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 01, 2023 04:17 PM (eOEVl)

316 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 01, 2023 04:14 PM (LvTSG)

Nixon would have been convicted. That’s why he resigned.

Posted by: polynikes at August 01, 2023 04:17 PM (MNhXM)

317 One phone wasn't enough to communicate his Father's Unconditional Love

lol
Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 01, 2023 04:17 PM (Xrfse)

I second that Lol.

Posted by: Joey Sausage at August 01, 2023 04:18 PM (or2+y)

318 Damn kids going over their data AGAIN!

Posted by: Minnfidel at August 01, 2023 04:18 PM (eqKLj)

319 309 To give yourself the best shot at overcoming a steal, you need to limit the foundation the dems have to steal with. That's why I'm still in favor of acting like elections matter.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 01, 2023 04:16 PM (KbCG3)

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Detroit says there are 1,000 ballots in a box with 10. Philly sends out mail in ballots willy nilly and then "counts" until they get the right result. Georgia runs the same ballots through the machines until they get the results they want. Maricopa just outright shuts down machines in red areas.

I'd love it if we could vote our way past that, but there is literally no ceiling to the cheat.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 01, 2023 04:18 PM (LvTSG)

320
I want direct evidence as opposed to the 1 or 2 degrees of separation we have now.
Posted by: polynikes

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Same. So far, the evidence suggests everything and proves nothing. Democrats are running to the bank with those 2 degrees. But those tapes are in the hands of someone who knows that Americans stab backs and betray sources. Also, didn't the source also say that the tapes merely have Joe uttering pleasantries and talking about the weather? Daniel Goldman has already established the harmless explanation for that.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 01, 2023 04:18 PM (lCaJd)

321 Hunter Biden witness is a bust...Hunter Biden called and even spoke with his famous father on speaker phone in front of both friends and business acquaintances, but according to Archer, they never spoke about business. These phone calls were social calls a father takes from his son.

Rep. Dan Goldman (D) said “kind of a preposterous premise to think that a father should not say hello to the people that a son is at dinner with and that is literally all the evidence is,” and “this investigation is a complete waste of time.”

Rep. Andy Biggs (R), “Freedom Caucus” member, attesting to Goldman’s summary, in a tail between his legs posture. GOP Rep. Andy Biggs was just asked if the star Hunter Biden whistleblower, Devon Archer, knew anything about President Biden accepting any bribes and he said HE DID NOT. Case closed assholes!

Jessica Tarlov, the liberal on The Five, points the Republicans still have no concrete proof he engaged in any financial crimes or FARA violations. "For the 80th time, Victor Shokin was not fired to protect hunter Biden. It had the opposite effect. There's so many articles… The IMF, the E.U. "

Posted by: Intercepted Daily Kos Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at August 01, 2023 04:18 PM (JCZqz)

322 I almost admire the audacity of corruption. It took a while but overt corruption of our government is now the norm and occupies the Oval Office.

It's all out in the open and laughing at us.


And it wasn't all that long ago where Democrats wanted to sue and fine Walmart for engaging in typical Mexican business negotiation practices with Mexican officials w/r/t opening new stores and distribution centers.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 01, 2023 04:18 PM (p8A+W)

323 >>He needed 16 phones because


Sending DicPics to your 15 year old Niece AND her Mother...
from the same phone...
is, err how do you say?

Gauche.

Posted by: garrett at August 01, 2023 04:18 PM (k54EX)

324 Moë sudno na vozdushnoy podushke polno ugrey.

Posted by: Biden Encrypted Weather Reports! at August 01, 2023 04:18 PM (2tUFv)

325 Rich White people using Burner phones is as suspicious as Bill Gates sleeping under a bridge.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at August 01, 2023 04:18 PM (CecP5)

326 Page Six
@PageSixx
Lizzo forced dancers to ‘eat bananas’ from sex workers’ vaginas during Amsterdam trip: bombshell lawsuit

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Ahh. Banana splits.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 01, 2023 04:16 PM (FVME7)

Amsterdammerung!

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 01, 2023 04:19 PM (4I/2K)

327 316 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 01, 2023 04:14 PM (LvTSG)

Nixon would have been convicted. That’s why he resigned.
Posted by: polynikes at August 01, 2023 04:17 PM (MNhXM)

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He certainly thought so, but we'll never know for sure.

And it was over fucking Watergate. It's not like he sold guns to the Mexican drug cartels in an effort to create a narrative that led to the disarming of all Americans or anything. Impeachment is political in nature.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 01, 2023 04:19 PM (LvTSG)

328 the only way this happens is if they kill off Hunter
Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 01, 2023 04:07 PM (AcWfM)
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My boy!! Hunter! *sniff* He died in the burn pits of Iraq!!

Posted by: President Charlie Foxtrot at August 01, 2023 04:19 PM (krQz2)

329 321 Jessica Tarlov, the liberal on The Five, points the Republicans still have no concrete proof he engaged in any financial crimes or FARA violations. "For the 80th time, Victor Shokin was not fired to protect hunter Biden. It had the opposite effect. There's so many articles… The IMF, the E.U. "
Posted by: Intercepted Daily Kos Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at August 01, 2023 04:18 PM (JCZqz)

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The Big Guy was Hunter's dick, it seems.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 01, 2023 04:20 PM (LvTSG)

330 319 309 To give yourself the best shot at overcoming a steal, you need to limit the foundation the dems have to steal with. That's why I'm still in favor of acting like elections matter.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 01, 2023 04:16 PM (KbCG3)

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Detroit says there are 1,000 ballots in a box with 10. Philly sends out mail in ballots willy nilly and then "counts" until they get the right result. Georgia runs the same ballots through the machines until they get the results they want. Maricopa just outright shuts down machines in red areas.

I'd love it if we could vote our way past that, but there is literally no ceiling to the cheat.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 01, 2023 04:18 PM (LvTSG)

I'm not oblivious to this but I do think there's a tipping point. How ridiculous can it get before it's (somehow) dealt with?

I'm anxious to hit that point, don't care how we get there.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 01, 2023 04:20 PM (KbCG3)

331 Lizzo forced dancers to ‘eat bananas’ from sex workers’ vaginas during Amsterdam trip: bombshell lawsuit


Leave her alone! She is beloved! *hic*

Posted by: Suburban Wine Moms at August 01, 2023 04:20 PM (Xrfse)

332 And, for the record, Lizzie is a Zero.
Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at August 01, 2023 04:17 PM

What's a number lower than zero?

Posted by: Minnfidel at August 01, 2023 04:20 PM (eqKLj)

333 One phone wasn't enough to communicate his Father's Unconditional Love

There's a lot of love when everybody can rat everybody out for treason.

Posted by: t-bird at August 01, 2023 04:21 PM (A0/af)

334 >>Lizzo forced dancers to ‘eat bananas’ from sex workers’ vaginas during Amsterdam trip: bombshell lawsuit


So. I had this friend in college who HATED bananas. Couldn't even look at the things.

He went to Amsterdam and, being in Rome as it were, he attended one of the famous Banana Shows with one of his classmates.

Way leading unto way, as it so often does, he was pulled out of the crowd and thrown on stage to 'participate' in the show.

His Verdict: "Bananas aren't half as bad as I had remembered them."

Posted by: garrett at August 01, 2023 04:21 PM (k54EX)

335 To give yourself the best shot at overcoming a steal, you need to limit the foundation the dems have to steal with. That's why I'm still in favor of acting like elections matter.

I don't disagree with that as a general proposition. That's my take on election theft as well. What I don't get is why The Party of Denethor gives a shit one way or the other.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at August 01, 2023 04:21 PM (ppBhU)

336 But Joe was sad that Beau was sick and then died so he didn't pay attention to what was going on with Hunter and he liked to talk about the weather...

Posted by: It's me donna at August 01, 2023 04:22 PM (bs+z0)

337 I just spoke to my close friend who was an Eastern District US assistant attorney - its clear that Biden has committed multiple felonies at this point and the need for a SP is pretty clear. Influence peddling, bribery of foreign entities who are under US Treaty, money laundering, wire fraud, etc. etc - he couldn't even count the number of felonies committed with serious witness substantiated proof. If you or I had even "hinted" at any of these things the Feds would have broken down your door and would have arrested you months ago.

It's become a farce that this guy is allowed to be President in order to obstruct justice and ride out his committed felonies in order to skate.

Posted by: Boswell at August 01, 2023 04:22 PM (K+UlC)

338 You want apathy?

I give you America laying down to six cities stealing a national election in the open.

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I think America tried in the best way it knew how at the time, and that's what scares me.

I don't think next time will be "the courts will figure it out!" because everyone watched the courts cower in fear of having their homes burned down or their invitations to DC parties dry up.

People believed in the system in 2020. They don't any longer. This can't last.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The EPA has determined US has cooled since 1948 at August 01, 2023 04:22 PM (x7OL5)

339 Apparently it's contagious:

@unusual_whales
·
8h
Miami Mayor Francis Suarez received $500,000 from an online flower shop operating mostly out of China, per Bloomberg.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 01, 2023 04:22 PM (jzzG8)

340 330 I'm not oblivious to this but I do think there's a tipping point. How ridiculous can it get before it's (somehow) dealt with?

I'm anxious to hit that point, don't care how we get there.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 01, 2023 04:20 PM (KbCG3)

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They shut down counting in the middle of the night across six states at once to ballot box stuff like Tammany Hall, and America took it.

America did nothing to improve the situation over the ensuing 3 years.

2024 is going to get stolen. Nothing's been done to prevent it. Now, what happens after that, I don't know. Do the people say, "Fuck this"? Do they get a bit insurrectiony at their state governments? I don't know, but I can hope.

2024, though? There's no ceiling and the GOP has done nothing to change anything anywhere in ways that will prevent some nameless worker in a sealed room from writing "125,000" instead of "125".

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 01, 2023 04:22 PM (LvTSG)

341 Meanwhile, this is what the Associated Press is reporting on (seen on a local Delaware news site):

https://tinyurl.com/ywh3ebtk

Sheesh!

Posted by: gdgm+ at August 01, 2023 04:23 PM (Mvc4R)

342 If Stephanie Abrams gave me personal weather updates with her tits hanging out, I would consider obtaining an encrypted burner phone.

Depending on the data plan.

Jackie Guerrido... I'm in!

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at August 01, 2023 04:23 PM (ufFY8)

343 He certainly thought so, but we'll never know for sure.

And it was over fucking Watergate. It's not like he sold guns to the Mexican drug cartels in an effort to create a narrative that led to the disarming of all Americans or anything. Impeachment is political in nature.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Hugh Scott, then Sen. Minority Leader took a delegation of Senate Republicans to the WH to tell Nixon that it was over.

Same reason that ironically Justice Douglas resigned, he was told by the other eight members taht they would come out publicly in favor of him being impeach and removed from office.

Posted by: whig at August 01, 2023 04:23 PM (bk5GW)

344 What I don't get is why The Party of Denethor gives a shit one way or the other.

heh. Party of Denethor.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 01, 2023 04:23 PM (eOEVl)

345 You mean to tell me this thing is a phone, too?

Posted by: Weasel at August 01, 2023 04:23 PM (ZbNI6)

346 Biden wasn’t protecting Hunter. He was protecting Bursima and his payoffs. Bursima requested pressure to get rid of the prosecutor.

Sheesh why am I arguing with the not present psychopaths.

Posted by: polynikes at August 01, 2023 04:24 PM (MNhXM)

347 Ashley!

She knew the THING!

Posted by: President Charlie Foxtrot at August 01, 2023 04:24 PM (krQz2)

348 Nixon would have been convicted. That’s why he resigned.


--

It should always be pointed out that Watergate was a fed / CIA op.

It's a big reason we're where we are today.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The EPA has determined US has cooled since 1948 at August 01, 2023 04:24 PM (x7OL5)

349 338 People believed in the system in 2020. They don't any longer. This can't last.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - The EPA has determined US has cooled since 1948 at August 01, 2023 04:22 PM (x7OL5)

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And in the ensuing time, John Fetterman became a senator because the GOP's candidate wasn't of quality enough.

My hope for America actually jumping into action is very low. They will continue to migrate within America's borders to safer places, and we're going to have at least a generation of overpowered blue states dictating national policy.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 01, 2023 04:24 PM (LvTSG)

350 >>America did nothing to improve the situation over the ensuing 3 years.


Roberts.

The Roberts Court abandoned their Dutiful Obligations and we will forever suffer for it.

Posted by: garrett at August 01, 2023 04:24 PM (k54EX)

351 And, for the record, Lizzie is a Zero.
Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at August 01, 2023 04:17 PM

What's a number lower than zero?
Posted by: Minnfidel at August 01, 2023 04:20 PM (eqKLj)

Zero. Point. Zero.

Posted by: Dean Wormer at August 01, 2023 04:24 PM (4I/2K)

352 But do they?
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 01, 2023 04:11 PM (KbCG3)

Sure they do...because they are all little Joe Bidens themselves. Greedy, grubbing, raping, mooching, stealing, molesting ingrates who vote for Joe and other democrats out of hate, envy and sexual perversions.

Typical democrats in other words. But sympathy, no way.

Hate is what animates them.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 01, 2023 04:24 PM (5L/TD)

353 Steer clear of Banana Shows. Trust me on this one.

Posted by: Michael Douglas at August 01, 2023 04:24 PM (Xrfse)

354 Just another day of congressional porn. It ain't real, and it ain't satisfying . Is today's Trump indictment going to merit a flaming skull?

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Ungovernable at August 01, 2023 04:24 PM (DbIL9)

355 339 Apparently it's contagious:

@unusual_whales
·
8h
Miami Mayor Francis Suarez received $500,000 from an online flower shop operating mostly out of China, per Bloomberg.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 01, 2023 04:22 PM (jzzG

Isn't he another one of those "good" republicans?

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 01, 2023 04:25 PM (KbCG3)

356 I have watched enough TV shows, etc to know about burner phones but still believe they are somehow tied to the person who bought them even with cash. OTOH, I really don't how it works since I never bought one, I assume they come with pre-paid minutes. Why did Hunter buy a burner phone and then connect it to his AT&T account, what the hell was he thinking?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 01, 2023 04:25 PM (8GBH4)

357 People defending Biden at this point are caricatures. Will it matter is another issue. Queue Joel Grey in Cabaret.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at August 01, 2023 04:25 PM (oWBc3)

358 350 >>America did nothing to improve the situation over the ensuing 3 years.


Roberts.

The Roberts Court abandoned their Dutiful Obligations and we will forever suffer for it.
Posted by: garrett at August 01, 2023 04:24 PM (k54EX)

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The people. The people let the PA government remain in place.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 01, 2023 04:25 PM (LvTSG)

359 2024, though? There's no ceiling and the GOP has done nothing to change anything anywhere in ways that will prevent some nameless worker in a sealed room from writing "125,000" instead of "125".
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Possible but not practical. In essence, try to exceed the number of registered voters across a large area makes it clear that fraud occurred. The highest limit is census data.

Posted by: whig at August 01, 2023 04:25 PM (bk5GW)

360 One banana, two banana, three banana four!
Add them all with one more from the cooter if a whore!

Posted by: Sesame Street Teaches Math at August 01, 2023 04:25 PM (or2+y)

361 Arizona put in place reforms which were openly ignored.

It doesn't matter what reforms are put in place because the people counting the votes know they'll not be persecuted unless they come up with the wrong result.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at August 01, 2023 04:26 PM (2YtOq)

362 Burner? Like my loser cousin Toby?

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gen X Ne'er-Do-Well at August 01, 2023 04:27 PM (T/Lqj)

363 2024, though? There's no ceiling and the GOP has done nothing to change anything anywhere in ways that will prevent some nameless worker in a sealed room from writing "125,000" instead of "125".

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 01, 2023 04:22 PM (LvTSG)

I believe you yourself have said that you want to see it pushed to a hilarious state where not even the dems can deny what is happening.

We're going to get there in 2024.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 01, 2023 04:27 PM (KbCG3)

364 Journalist John Solomon called one of the numbers from Hunter's laptop and Joe picked up. I guess mush brain was in the habit of answering it just in case he would get a weather update from who ever dialed that number.

https://www.westernjournal.com/
reporter-says-called-secret-biden-phone-central-bribery-
scandal-joe-answered/

Posted by: scruboak at August 01, 2023 04:27 PM (jjH9L)

365 >>The people. The people let the PA government remain in place.


Oh, I am ALL about the Grassroots solving the problem without any appeal to authority.

However, The Court is charged with the actual obligation to act with ALL its authority in such cases.


And Roberts, the cunt that he is, punted.

Posted by: garrett at August 01, 2023 04:27 PM (k54EX)

366 It should always be pointed out that Watergate was a fed / CIA op.

It's a big reason we're where we are today.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - The EPA has determined US has cooled since 1948 at August 01, 2023 04:24 PM (x7OL5)
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I can believe that.

Republicans were never supposed to be in power in DC. They aren't as dedicated to oiling the machine.

Posted by: Axeman at August 01, 2023 04:27 PM (krQz2)

367 359 Possible but not practical. In essence, try to exceed the number of registered voters across a large area makes it clear that fraud occurred. The highest limit is census data.
Posted by: whig at August 01, 2023 04:25 PM (bk5GW)

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"Oh, that's just Philly," the reaction to Philly reporting more votes than people. "To investigate is racism."

If something's going to happen, it has to be the people taking the matter in their own hands. Relying on courts is going to result in the same thing again. I haven't seen anything to tell me the people are at a stage where they are willing to go to literal war with their corrupt state governments to regain their suffrage. Instead, they run away to better states.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 01, 2023 04:27 PM (LvTSG)

368 Banana shows? And all Fredo had on offer in Cuba was a donkey.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at August 01, 2023 04:27 PM (oWBc3)

369 Posted by: Boswell at August 01, 2023 04:22 PM (K+UlC

Yes they would have arrested and convicted one of us but when it’s a President , especially a Dem President , you need that smoking gun to convict.

Posted by: polynikes at August 01, 2023 04:27 PM (MNhXM)

370 The best use of burner phones is to detonate car bombs at a distance.

Posted by: Puddinhead at August 01, 2023 04:27 PM (DmtxH)

371 The people. The people let the PA government remain in place.

--

That was the entire point of J6

Don't even think about protesting, mudderfugger, or we'll put you in jail for 20 years for walking on the grass after we removed the "stay off the grass" sign.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The EPA has determined US has cooled since 1948 at August 01, 2023 04:28 PM (x7OL5)

372 363 I believe you yourself have said that you want to see it pushed to a hilarious state where not even the dems can deny what is happening.

We're going to get there in 2024.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 01, 2023 04:27 PM (KbCG3)

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It's true. It may lead to action at that point, but the only action I see happening is continued migration.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 01, 2023 04:28 PM (LvTSG)

373 So, a banana show is like a ping pong ball show?

The things I learn here.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at August 01, 2023 04:28 PM (ufFY8)

374 The Roberts Court abandoned their Dutiful Obligations and we will forever suffer for it.
Posted by: garrett

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The people. The people let the PA government remain in place. Posted by: TheJamesMadison

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Enough blame exists for both the people in the cheater states and Scotus led from behind by Roberts.

Posted by: whig at August 01, 2023 04:28 PM (bk5GW)

375 I checked the news on YouTube and there was not a single mention of Joe and his scamp son. They had time to mention Trump's legal problems, though. Also a possible bear impersonator in China.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 01, 2023 04:28 PM (FVME7)

376 Journalist John Solomon called one of the numbers from Hunter's laptop and Joe picked up. I guess mush brain was in the habit of answering it just in case he would get a weather update from who ever dialed that number.

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Beautiful weather we're having today, ain't it!

Look, fat, you gonna' talk or what?

*static*

Same to you, jackass!

Posted by: President Charlie Foxtrot at August 01, 2023 04:28 PM (krQz2)

377 People defending Biden at this point are caricatures.

They might be trying to drag things out, so that they can still get Biden as the nom, and replace him before the election. No, it's not entirely clear to me why they would to that, but still...

Posted by: Archimedes at August 01, 2023 04:28 PM (eOEVl)

378 @334 garrett-peeled bananas or unpeeled. If they're peeled they disintegrate and then you've got some uncomfortable digging to do. It's a hell of a mess.

Posted by: JROD at August 01, 2023 04:28 PM (IlL6s)

379 >> So, a banana show is like a ping pong ball show?


Yes, but more appealing.

Posted by: garrett at August 01, 2023 04:29 PM (k54EX)

380 321 Jessica Tarlov, the liberal on The Five, points the Republicans still have no concrete proof he engaged in any financial crimes or FARA violations.

Other than the 170 Suspicious Activity Reports that leftist banks really didn't want to file against the Bidens.

I'm willing to bet nobody any of us know personally, has ever had an SAR filed against them. Most banks file maybe 1 or 2 a Year against all of their customers, and most of those are drug dealers. Basically the Bidens accounted for more SARs than any of the Mexican drug cartels.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at August 01, 2023 04:29 PM (CecP5)

381 371 That was the entire point of J6

Don't even think about protesting, mudderfugger, or we'll put you in jail for 20 years for walking on the grass after we removed the "stay off the grass" sign.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - The EPA has determined US has cooled since 1948 at August 01, 2023 04:28 PM (x7OL5)

=========

Very true.

So, the people are cowed, and they just run from shithole states to nicer states while the Census Bureau props up the shithole states, giving them outsized influence on American governance.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 01, 2023 04:29 PM (LvTSG)

382 There B a NOOD !

Posted by: JT at August 01, 2023 04:29 PM (T4tVD)

383 I am stunned that people don't recognize the sexifullness of Lizzo. We are all manatees now.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at August 01, 2023 04:29 PM (oWBc3)

384 Banana shows are for rank amateurs. Take me to the watermelon shows!

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at August 01, 2023 04:29 PM (ppBhU)

385 Also a possible bear impersonator in China.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 01, 2023 04:28 PM (FVME7)
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Who got fried in the wet market!

Posted by: Axeman at August 01, 2023 04:29 PM (krQz2)

386 Enough blame exists for both the people in the cheater states and Scotus led from behind by Roberts.
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Its a TAX!

Posted by: Puddinhead at August 01, 2023 04:29 PM (DmtxH)

387 It should always be pointed out that Watergate was a fed / CIA op.

It's a big reason we're where we are today.

---
I can believe that.

-


I think Tucker Carlson did a piece recently, but here's a good jumping off point:

"A granular look at the players involved in the scandal exposes the CIA's role. Let's start with the so-called burglars or surveillance agents sent in by Nixon's reelection team to bug the DNC offices at Watergate.

All five agents arrested were former full-time CIA operatives. Four of them had taken part in various CIA-funded activities to destabilize Fidel Castro's administration in Cuba..."

https://tinyurl.com/2y3ybfjo

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The EPA has determined US has cooled since 1948 at August 01, 2023 04:29 PM (x7OL5)

388 Looking forward to the desperate sweaty fat-fingered almost-readable attempt at deflection this will elicit from Paul.

Posted by: spindrift at August 01, 2023 03:28 PM (iG1Nf)

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Yamsticas-tastic!

Posted by: ShainS at August 01, 2023 04:29 PM (JLj2w)

389 Possible but not practical. In essence, try to exceed the number of registered voters across a large area makes it clear that fraud occurred. The highest limit is census data.

Census data is fraudulent as the Bidens.

Blue states want to keep their electoral clout at the expense of Red states, so they overcount Blue and drastically undercount Red.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 01, 2023 04:29 PM (p8A+W)

390 Is it wrong of me to dream about living on Gilligan's Island?

Posted by: Puddinhead at August 01, 2023 04:30 PM (DmtxH)

391 >>peeled bananas or unpeeled


I'm not expert, but a girl I knew in college informed me that you need to freeze them if they are peeled, or get out a pairing knife and smooth out the edges if they are not.

Also, she was one of the hottest chicks I have ever known.

AND her name was actually: Echo.

Posted by: garrett at August 01, 2023 04:30 PM (k54EX)

392 189 They are now panic mode because this could implement "Chocolate Jesus" in this whole Scam because only the POTUS can make the decisions that gave Biden the deals with these foreign countries !!!!!!!!!!!!
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Why do you think Obama told Joe not to run?

Of course Obama was in on it.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 01, 2023 03:54 PM (5jqeq)

"You know, you don't have to do this, Joe."

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 01, 2023 04:31 PM (/iWhV)

393 NOOD

Posted by: Moonbeam at August 01, 2023 04:31 PM (rbKZ6)

394 >>Is it wrong of me to dream about living on Gilligan's Island?


Did they have Bananas? I thought they only had coconuts?

Posted by: garrett at August 01, 2023 04:31 PM (k54EX)

395 It's true. It may lead to action at that point, but the only action I see happening is continued migration.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Migration makes separation a thing as does wedge social issues. Add a war with a major power to the fire and fiscal collapse, the dam will break.

It did in the Hapsburg Empire, the Russian Empire, and even the British Empire even though they won WWII more or less.

The historical tide is receding on centralization and transnationalism but dunno what it will bring next.

Posted by: whig at August 01, 2023 04:31 PM (bk5GW)

396 Has the House Committee demanded an explanation of payments made by foreigners to JB's grandkids?

What conceivably innocent explanation can he offer?


Posted by: Zek at August 01, 2023 03:57 PM (5FPX4)

They're all meteorology majors at the University of Delaware.

Posted by: mrp at August 01, 2023 04:31 PM (rj6Yv)

397 360 One banana, two banana, three banana four!
Add them all with one more from the cooter if a whore!
Posted by: Sesame Street Teaches Math at August 01, 2023 04:25 PM (or2+y)

One! I can count to one.
Two! I can count to two.
Three! I can count to three.
Four! I can't count no more!

One! What comes after one?
Two! What comes after two?
Three! What comes after three?
Four!

Posted by: Bacon Jeff at August 01, 2023 04:32 PM (VGRuw)

398 387 It should always be pointed out that Watergate was a fed / CIA op.

It's a big reason we're where we are today.
-------------
Don't discount the FBI. Sibling rivalry is a real thing.

Posted by: Puddinhead at August 01, 2023 04:32 PM (fWTJL)

399 just spoke to my close friend who was an Eastern District US assistant attorney - its clear that Biden has committed multiple felonies at this point and the need for a SP is pretty clear. Influence peddling, bribery of foreign entities who are under US Treaty, money laundering, wire fraud, etc. etc - he couldn't even count the number of felonies committed with serious witness substantiated proof. If you or I had even "hinted" at any of these things the Feds would have broken down your door and would have arrested you months ago.

It's become a farce that this guy is allowed to be President in order to obstruct justice and ride out his committed felonies in order to skate.
Posted by: Boswell at August 01,


Biden’s probably safe from the feds because he didn’t pray in front of an abortion clinic.

Posted by: LASue at August 01, 2023 04:32 PM (Ed8Zd)

400 2024 is going to get stolen. Nothing's been done to prevent it.

Yep, once the dems get control over the who, what, where and when of vote counting, they will own all three branches of govt in those states and by definition you can't vote yourself out of it. Which is why there will be a national divorce.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 01, 2023 04:32 PM (8GBH4)

401
I'm remembering a bit of ancient history, when Hillary dialed in to some phone call with a bunch of Hollywood dupes including Stan Lee on some deal that was going to make everyone millions. All she said was "Hello! So nice to talk to you all today!" and other light nonsense.

Everyone lost millions, except Hillary. What the heck was that deal? They were going to start a company, but then Bill Clinton stole the investor for his own company. Or maybe that was a related crooked deal?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 01, 2023 04:34 PM (lCaJd)

402 Soooo...what are you gonna do with the hobo when you're done?
Posted by: The Ewok at August 01, 2023 03:47 PM (N3zMI

Sous vide him?

Posted by: Fox2! at August 01, 2023 04:41 PM (xnpli)

403 33 The UK papers are much better than the US ones.

Fucking incredible.

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 01, 2023 03:30
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Because the Us is "the most honest cuntry in da world"?
LOL.

Posted by: Bezel at August 01, 2023 04:55 PM (sS+Tl)

404 Migration makes separation a thing as does wedge social issues. Add a war with a major power to the fire and fiscal collapse, the dam will break.
Posted by: whig
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The problem with the US is that the empire has subsumed the nation;the other empires you mentioned had a country after the empire ended . The US is an empire and the nation won't survive the empire's dissolution.

Posted by: Bezel at August 01, 2023 05:06 PM (sS+Tl)

405 He was wildly unpopular and completely fucked up Reconstruction. Never mind the legality of the impeachment, which is inherently a political act, if they couldn't do it to him, they can't do it to anyone.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 01, 2023 04:14 PM (LvTSG)
==
Well, I'm not sure I would agree with that sentiment. Was he wildly unpopular? Yes. I think popular arm chair QBs would agree with your assessment. But when you dig into some more detail it was a pure power play by the legislature. Which was why he wasn't convicted.

Posted by: Black JEM at August 01, 2023 08:42 PM (UVyKP)

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Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
News/Chat