THE MORNING RANT: Racism at Elite Universities - Is it Time to Establish “Historically Asian Colleges”?

The response from leftists and elite universities to the Supreme Court ruling that outlawed affirmative action in university admissions is that racial discrimination has benefited society, and that universities now need to find new and more creative ways to keep discriminating against whites and Asians, but especially against Asians.

Instead of fighting for membership in a club that doesn’t want them, maybe it’s time to establish all new academies for academic overachievers of disfavored races – let’s call them Historically Asian Colleges.

HACs could be color-blind in admissions, but extremely discriminating in admission standards, perhaps requiring a 1450 on the SAT, or maybe disregarding the “Evidence Based Reading and Writing” section of the SAT altogether, and basing admission simply upon the Math section, perhaps requiring a 750 on that section.

HACs could focus exclusively on STEM disciplines and forego the entire distraction of “campus culture” and “college experience.” The culture and experience at Historically Asian Colleges would be access to a superior education, surrounded by equally brilliant peers.

When the Supreme Court finally outlawed racial discrimination in college admissions, it was almost six decades after Jim Crow and other legalized forms of discrimination had been outlawed, but elite universities such as Harvard and the University of North Carolina argued that discrimination is still a good thing so long as the proper ethnicities are being targeted. Specifically, targeting whites for discrimination is a good thing because white people are bad, and discriminating against Asians is a good thing because they do not properly “enrich” the campus experience, not to mention that elite universities would be disproportionately Asian if admission was based on the intelligence of those being admitted.

How are racist universities responding? They’re responding in several predictable ways.

Harvard is obviously distraught about the abolition of affirmative action and how that will affect what had been legal racial discrimination. In response the school is seeking to maintain a separate-but-equal-to-affirmative-action mechanism to perpetuate their “good kind” of racial discrimination, so it now wants certain applicants (e.g. non-white, non-Asian) to include in their admissions application a "discussion of how race affected his or her life, be it through discrimination, inspiration, or otherwise.”

Expecting that the Supreme Court would abolish affirmative action, some universities have recently eliminated testing requirements that reveal the scholastic aptitude of incoming students.

Columbia becomes first Ivy League school to permanently drop SAT/ACT testing requirement] NY Post – 3/02/2023]

SUNY (State University of New York) is also eliminating SAT/ACT requirements to keep out undesirable academic overachievers.

Of course, even though elite universities no longer want Asians with 1500 SATs, they still make room for such intellectual luminaries as the Biden progeny.

Joe Biden Says He Wants To Crack Down on 'Privilege' in Education; He Once Called UPenn's President to Get His Granddaughter In [Washington Free Beacon – 7/01/2023]

In 2018, Hunter Biden tapped his father and a number of Biden family connections to help get his daughter into the University of Pennsylvania. Text messages and emails from Hunter Biden's laptop, reviewed by the Washington Free Beacon, show how Joe and Hunter Biden worked behind the scenes to get a subpar family member into one of the most selective schools in the country.

Right now, I already assume that any white student at an Ivy is a privileged mediocrity who is there only because of connections and/or generous financial support to the school from his parents, and I would genuinely be embarrassed to have my name associated with schools such as Harvard or Penn.

What would an Historically Asian College look like? I don’t know, but it doesn’t need the big leafy campus with resort-style dorms, or intercollegiate athletics, or a thriving campus-adjacent bar scene. It needs classrooms and instructors who have excelled at the disciplines being taught.

High-end STEM learning is accelerated by being surrounded with those possessing similar intelligence. There should not be a restriction on the number of elite STEM students, nor should there be any restrictions on who can get into an Historically Asian College. The number of academically-elite HACs and classrooms need only be limited by the number of qualified applicants. Keeping the structure simple would allow the classroom capacity to scale up with qualified applicants.

The race or socio-economic status of HAC applicants wouldn’t matter, only their intellectual capacity to study math and science at an elevated level. HACs would instantly become “elite” simply because of the critical mass of intelligence of those attending and graduating.

That would be much more impressive than the current system, which allows just a trickle of academically brilliant undesirables to share an Ivy League campus with affirmative action admits and the mediocre children of the well-connected.

A lot of us on the right have been cheering for the 20th century university model to collapse, especially since classic liberal education was replaced by political indoctrination and woke pseudo-science. A four-year college degree is not necessary for success in life, but there will always be a need for post-secondary education in certain skills, especially STEM. That is also true for specialized disciplines such as architecture, nursing, accounting, etc. (And let’s be honest, as much as we mock degrees in the humanities, journalism, and the various “grievance studies,” even many business majors such as Management or Marketing provide little more than a degree in the “the college experience” with a sheepskin at the end.)

Historically Asian Colleges might be better thought of as conservatories of science, technology, engineering, and math. Elite musical talent often come out of conservatories rather than colleges. Why not use a similar model to develop elite STEM talent?

Also, and it’s a discussion for another day, but conservatories in lieu of universities for other fields requiring post-secondary education is a discussion that should be had.

[buck.throckmorton at protonmail dot com]

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at 11:00 AM

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1 ereste!!!

Posted by: SturmToddler at July 17, 2023 11:00 AM (Mkvkw)

2 i guess i'll call the otters....

Posted by: SturmToddler at July 17, 2023 11:00 AM (Mkvkw)

3 corgis called

Posted by: SturmToddler at July 17, 2023 11:01 AM (Mkvkw)

4 grand salami?

Posted by: SturmToddler at July 17, 2023 11:01 AM (Mkvkw)

5 SPONGE!

Posted by: Inogame at July 17, 2023 11:01 AM (53oGX)

6 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 17, 2023 11:01 AM (Zz0t1)

7 I laugh at this.
Completely racist.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 17, 2023 11:01 AM (e4fEA)

8 It's time to tax endowments at 90% for every dollar over the costs of keeping the lights on for one semester.

It's time to make universities co-signers on student loans.

It's time to make it illegal to have administrator/instructor rations of greater than 1:25.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 17, 2023 11:02 AM (LvTSG)

9 Andy Ngô 🏳️‍🌈
@MrAndyNgo
The person who wrote this Bloomberg opinion piece [calling Sound of Freedom a "QAnon dog whistle] is leftist activist Noah Berlatsky @nberlat. He was the spokesperson for M.A.P. (minor-attracted person) advocacy group, Prostasia. In 2017, he tweeted that pedophiles are a stigmatized group who get designated as deviants for hateful purposes.

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This is my shocked face.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at July 17, 2023 11:02 AM (FVME7)

10 The left when a scotus decision happens: LOLGF we will keep doing what we’re doing

The right when a scotus decision happens: oh well we tried, better luck next time chaps

Posted by: Montec at July 17, 2023 11:02 AM (S2RnY)

11 Nagasaki U. -- it's da bomb!

[thanks to the Art Thread]

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at July 17, 2023 11:03 AM (krqg6)

12 Upper class twits, all the Ivy League is capable of producing.

cf - David Hogg.

Predominantly Asian Colleges?

So courses like Rooftop Korean 101?

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 17, 2023 11:04 AM (nS5l5)

13 Expecting that the Supreme Court would abolish affirmative action, some universities have recently eliminated testing requirements that reveal the scholastic aptitude of incoming students.
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Aptitude has nothing to do with SAT. Its measures achievement and can deduce IQ. No college wants kids with aptitude they want students that are easy to teach and will pay the freight to get an extremely overpriced certificate. We are a vampire nation. We feed off our young.

Posted by: Quizno Puddinhead at July 17, 2023 11:04 AM (2graF)

14 You want to fix college admission?

Remove the race option from the application. Base it solely on merit.

But we can't have that. ACTUAL equality amongst the student body is NOT what the left wants.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 17, 2023 11:04 AM (Zz0t1)

15 BT, between you and JJ this morning, I am laughing way too much for a Monday. "Historically Asian Colleges" BWAHAHAHAHA

Posted by: just saying at July 17, 2023 11:04 AM (Uy/WF)

16 Honestly its time to end college as it exists right now.

It does a poor job educating people considering the money spent, and at the "elite" level mostly serves as a way for the kids of rich, connected people to get introduced to the kids of other rich connected people.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 17, 2023 11:05 AM (lc5cP)

17 "Our vast educational system--now rubble."

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 17, 2023 11:05 AM (p+1gI)

18 Got an idea...no ivy grads for gov. jobs/positions...no "studies majors" for gov. jobs/positions...break the cabal.

Posted by: BignJames at July 17, 2023 11:05 AM (AwYPR)

19 Harvard is obviously distraught about the abolition of affirmative action and how that will affect what had been legal racial discrimination. In response the school is seeking to maintain a separate-but-equal-to-affirmative-action mechanism to perpetuate their “good kind” of racial discrimination, so it now wants certain applicants (e.g. non-white, non-Asian) to include in their admissions application a "discussion of how race affected his or her life, be it through discrimination, inspiration, or otherwise.”
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I assume that a white person's essay on the corrosive nature of Affirmative Action policies, "reparations" policies, race-based welfare programs, etc. would not contribute to his admissions score.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 17, 2023 11:05 AM (t0OGg)

20 Me Sucky U?

Posted by: Puddinhead at July 17, 2023 11:05 AM (DmtxH)

21 It entertains me that colleges are doubling down on making their product significantly worse to own the cons, or whatever.

Dumber students with grade inflation and antagonistic to both whites and males?

Universities are racing to become the worst finishing schools for girls in history.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 17, 2023 11:06 AM (LvTSG)

22 SUNY (State University of New York) is also eliminating SAT/ACT requirements to keep out undesirable academic overachievers.
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Good.

The sooner that more and more colleges and universities go the way of Antioch, the better.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 17, 2023 11:06 AM (t0OGg)

23 Someone pass this along for next Sunday's book thread:

https://tinyurl.com/3tdrnhzn

(Nitter)

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 17, 2023 11:07 AM (adINt)

24 We can blame the GI Bill for all of this. What was once a system intended to produce well rounded and educated individuals has morphed in McDonald's College - over 1 billion diplomas served.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 17, 2023 11:07 AM (nS5l5)

25 If people want to criticize RFK Jr for something, he had a rather tepid response when Dave Rubin asked him about the recent SC decision on affirmative action.

Kennedy basically said he didn't think racial equality had yet to be established, because the admissions offices of these elite colleges tend to reflect the biases of those who work there.

What's he smoking? How much you wanna bet the admissions departments at skrewels like Haaaahvaaaad and the other so-called elite universities are higher represented by black women and white lesbians?

It's 2023, Bobby. Not 1967.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 17, 2023 11:07 AM (yE7Zc)

26 Too Boo-ku U

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 17, 2023 11:07 AM (TZ75n)

27 let’s call them Historically Asian Colleges.

Cal Tech. 21.4% Asian, and 31% "international" students (who are probably almost all Asian).

Cal Tech is the last highly selective school left that admits its students purely on the basis of academic merit.

Posted by: A Provocative Parade Of Perverts! at July 17, 2023 11:07 AM (2tUFv)

28 Here's a question. If you can't use race anymore, what is to prevent you from lying about your race on the admissions application, and making up a story about all the racial hurdles you've overcome.

These essays are all creative writing exercises anyway, so why not?

Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2023 11:07 AM (eOEVl)

29 The only thing missing from this post is a noose.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 17, 2023 11:07 AM (aD39U)

30 25 What's he smoking? How much you wanna bet the admissions departments at skrewels like Haaaahvaaaad and the other so-called elite universities are higher represented by black women and white lesbians?

It's 2023, Bobby. Not 1967.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 17, 2023 11:07 AM (yE7Zc)

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I hold his inclination to jail those who opposed government action on climate change against him. He's a nut.

I just find it entertaining that he's slightly messing with the establishment's plans for the moment, a moment that won't last very long.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 17, 2023 11:08 AM (LvTSG)

31 Right now, I already assume that any white student at an Ivy is a privileged mediocrity who is there only because of connections and/or generous financial support to the school from his parents, and I would genuinely be embarrassed to have my name associated with schools such as Harvard or Penn.
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If the work you do can be done with on-the-job training, you're probably far better off hiring and ambitious person who has chosen not to go to college. Pay him at 50% while he's training, then reassess and bring him on as a regular employee.

Yeah, it's a bit like the old apprentice/guild system. It will also work better than hiring broken, mush-brained college graduates where you have no way to determine how or why they went. College is now where minds go to be destroyed, not developed.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 17, 2023 11:08 AM (t0OGg)

32 HACs are a horrible idea.. do you realize how bad their sports teams would be?

Posted by: Silent at July 17, 2023 11:08 AM (CrU4U)

33 Columbia becomes first Ivy League school to permanently drop SAT/ACT testing requirement] NY Post – 3/02/2023]

SUNY (State University of New York) is also eliminating SAT/ACT requirements to keep out undesirable academic overachievers

Let's end any pretenses.
If you have the cash, first come, first served.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 17, 2023 11:08 AM (ZVVGW)

34 Me Sucky U?
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I understand the tuition is five dollah.

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at July 17, 2023 11:08 AM (krqg6)

35 HACs are a horrible idea.. do you realize how bad their sports teams would be?

Don't worry about the teams, worry about the Tiger Moms in the stands.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 17, 2023 11:09 AM (nS5l5)

36 When I sent to college some decades ago, I always felt that the main factor in selecting who who be admitted was whether they would make a contribution to the school after they achieved their success.

These endowments seem to make them stupid.

Posted by: SMOD at July 17, 2023 11:09 AM (RHGPo)

37 32 HACs are a horrible idea.. do you realize how bad their sports teams would be?
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They would dominate Ping Pong.

Posted by: Quizno Puddinhead at July 17, 2023 11:09 AM (2graF)

38 HACs are a horrible idea.. do you realize how bad their sports teams would be?
Posted by: Silent

But the bridges and buildings their graduates built wouldn't fall down.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 17, 2023 11:10 AM (ZVVGW)

39 When I sent to college some decades ago, I always felt that the main factor in selecting who who be admitted was whether they would make a contribution to the school after they achieved their success.

These endowments seem to make them stupid.
Posted by: SMOD at July 17, 2023 11:09 AM (RHGPo)
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Some of 'em, yeah. Price is no object if you're in that top tier of endowments. Most schools aren't.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 17, 2023 11:10 AM (t0OGg)

40 . Elite musical talent often come out of conservatories rather than colleges.

WTF is a conservatory?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 17, 2023 11:10 AM (GzDfN)

41 hiya

Posted by: JT at July 17, 2023 11:10 AM (T4tVD)

42 HACs are a horrible idea.. do you realize how bad their sports teams would be?
Posted by: Silent

Table tennis has entered the chat.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 17, 2023 11:10 AM (TZ75n)

43 HACs are a horrible idea.. do you realize how bad their sports teams would be?

.. they would restrict athletics to sports like badminton

Posted by: SMOD at July 17, 2023 11:10 AM (RHGPo)

44 HACs are a horrible idea.. do you realize how bad their sports teams would be?

Posted by: Silent at July 17, 2023 11:08 AM (CrU4U)

They'd be a lock for the ping pong championship.

Posted by: BignJames at July 17, 2023 11:10 AM (AwYPR)

45 WTF is a conservatory?
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National Review?

Posted by: Quizno Puddinhead at July 17, 2023 11:11 AM (2graF)

46 With the college tuition pricing crisis out of control, it's time for state run universities to ban the enrollment of foreign students.

The colleges were created by and operated on taxpayer dollars for centuries, and now they fill them up full of every slant-eye, towel-head and punjab hadji because they can get more tuition dollars out of a foreigner than they can from an American.

And then those foreigners take all of their learning back to China or India and build technology and bombs and diseases to use against America.

And then you wind up with some mush-mouth Hindu saying hambla-bimbla-bee-bee-bop-bop bullshit that you can't understand as your grad assistant professor. How are Americans supposed to learn higher level math and science from some third-worlder spitting broken English they can't even understand?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at July 17, 2023 11:11 AM (YsxBD)

47 OT, but I viewed the video of the "muslima" anti-LGBTQ march from the top of the sidebar. Not exclusively muslims; maybe 40% heritage Canadians there, too.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 17, 2023 11:11 AM (NZowV)

48 Is there any sport associated with Asians besides Ping Pong? Sumo?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 17, 2023 11:11 AM (aD39U)

49 Here's a question. If you can't use race anymore, what is to prevent you from lying about your race on the admissions application, and making up a story about all the racial hurdles you've overcome

*Talcum X has entered the chat.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 17, 2023 11:11 AM (ZVVGW)

50 Jack Posobiec: Pence isn't concerned:

https://tinyurl.com/39e3sncu

(Nitter)

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 17, 2023 11:11 AM (adINt)

51 I would think after talking with gov't personnel nobody would accuse them of being an "ivy" grad.

More power to tech schools.

Posted by: sidney at July 17, 2023 11:12 AM (Uy/WF)

52 Is there any sport associated with Asians besides Ping Pong? Sumo?
Posted by: G'rump928

Long distance hiking.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 17, 2023 11:12 AM (ZVVGW)

53 We already have (or had, anyway) a high school that is 70% Asian. It's Thomas Jefferson HS for SandT, in NoVa, and is hands down the best HS in the country.

The Fairfax Co. school system has been trying for decades to come up with an admissions system that gives them the student body diversity they want, but gosh darn it all, reality keeps intruding.

The SCOTUS decision will apply at least as much to TJ as to any university.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2023 11:12 AM (eOEVl)

54 43 HACs are a horrible idea.. do you realize how bad their sports teams would be?

.. they would restrict athletics to sports like badminton
Posted by: SMOD at July 17, 2023 11:10 AM (RHGPo)

How good at sports are the traditionally minority colleges?

Posted by: Inogame at July 17, 2023 11:12 AM (53oGX)

55 I understand the tuition is five dollah.

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at July 17, 2023 11:08 AM (krqg6)

...dorrah

Posted by: BignJames at July 17, 2023 11:12 AM (AwYPR)

56 *Talcum X has entered the chat.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 17, 2023 11:11 AM (ZVVGW)
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Raised clenched fist.

BLACK POWDER!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 17, 2023 11:12 AM (adINt)

57
They'd be a lock for the ping pong championship.
Posted by: BignJames at July 17, 2023 11:10 AM (AwYPR)

Battle Bots would become an Olympic competition.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 17, 2023 11:12 AM (Zz0t1)

58 HACs are a horrible idea.. do you realize how bad their sports teams would be?
Posted by: Silent

Not only that, imagine how many car accidents there would be on campus.

Posted by: Wierzbowski formerly QID at July 17, 2023 11:13 AM (OgrpQ)

59 They would dominate Ping Pong.
Posted by: Quizno Puddinhead at July 17, 2023 11:09 AM (2graF)

And StarCraft.

Esports are a kind of sport.

Posted by: spindrift at July 17, 2023 11:13 AM (iG1Nf)

60 Hedge Funds with vestigal educational insututions.

We should seize all those USDs.

Posted by: Thesokorus at July 17, 2023 11:13 AM (IiPit)

61 WTF is a conservatory?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 17, 2023 11:10 AM

It's what I prefer to call my c*ckshed.

Posted by: David French at July 17, 2023 11:13 AM (a3Q+t)

62 Badminton has entered the chat.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 17, 2023 11:13 AM (TZ75n)

63 Justin Trudeau blames 'American right-wing' for Muslims opposing LGBTQ curriculum: 'Leave our kids alone!'

Posted by: SMOD at July 17, 2023 11:13 AM (RHGPo)

64 54 43 HACs are a horrible idea.. do you realize how bad their sports teams would be?

.. they would restrict athletics to sports like badminton
Posted by: SMOD at July 17, 2023 11:10 AM (RHGPo)

How good at sports are the traditionally minority colleges?

Maybe not great but their dance teams are awesome.

Posted by: Silent at July 17, 2023 11:13 AM (CrU4U)

65 WTF is a conservatory?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 17, 2023 11:10 AM (GzDfN)
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Two general meanings:
1. A specialty school, usually associated with art (music, dance, painting, etc.). The idea of an "engineering conservatory" is a bit outside that definition, but would fall under "specialty school" as a concept. These are not colleges or universities, which have larger academic programs. A conservatory does the one thing, and seeks to do it at an extremely high standard.

2. A glass room, usually a green house but also sometimes a fancy glass room for entertaining and relaxation - like a "sun room" or "three seasons room" - though the expectation would be that the room has a lot of plant life.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 17, 2023 11:14 AM (t0OGg)

66 I already assume that any white student at an Ivy is a privileged mediocrity who is there only because of connections and/or generous financial support to the school from his parents

Or an athlete.

One wonders how long the "elite" status of these institutions will persist when it is virtually impossible for a high-achieving white person (still a significant majority of the US population) to be admitted to their schools.

Posted by: A Provocative Parade Of Perverts! at July 17, 2023 11:14 AM (2tUFv)

67 "HACs could be color-blind in admissions, but extremely discriminating in admission standards, perhaps requiring a 1450 on the SAT, or maybe disregarding the “Evidence Based Reading and Writing” section of the SAT altogether, and basing admission simply upon the Math section, perhaps requiring a 750 on that section."

The DoJ Civil Rights Division would shut-down HACs, BAMN, and/or find ways to seriously punish people and corporations hiring HAC graduates.

Posted by: Gref at July 17, 2023 11:14 AM (AMIL/)

68 How good at sports are the traditionally minority colleges?
Posted by: Inogame

Grambling and Prairie View A&M field ok football teams.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 17, 2023 11:15 AM (ZVVGW)

69 63 Justin Trudeau blames 'American right-wing' for Muslims opposing LGBTQ curriculum: 'Leave our kids alone!'
Posted by: SMOD at July 17, 2023 11:13 AM (RHGPo)

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Canada should invade Detroit in response.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 17, 2023 11:15 AM (LvTSG)

70 Jack Posobiec: Pence isn't concerned:
https://tinyurl.com/39e3sncu
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 17, 2023 11:11 AM (adINt)
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Heh.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 17, 2023 11:15 AM (t0OGg)

71 Remove the race option from the application.

We're cool with that.

--- Shaniqua & Jamaal

Posted by: olddog in mo at July 17, 2023 11:15 AM (ViCCR)

72 A conservatory is a building or room having glass or other transparent roofing and walls, used as a greenhouse or a sunroom. Usually it refers to a space attached to a conventional building such as a house, especially in the United Kingdom. Elsewhere, especially in America, it can often refer to a large freestanding glass-walled building in a botanic garden or park, sometimes also called a palm house if tall enough for trees. Municipal conservatories became popular in the early 19th century.

Posted by: SMOD at July 17, 2023 11:15 AM (RHGPo)

73 The most historically asian universities are California's UC system.

They're now the largest group of offenders keeping them out.

Posted by: Grudge Harbor at July 17, 2023 11:16 AM (wBpKf)

74 A glass room, usually a green house but also sometimes a fancy glass room for entertaining and relaxation - like a "sun room" or "three seasons room" - though the expectation would be that the room has a lot of plant life.

Any idea where I could find such a room?

Posted by: Harvey Weinstein at July 17, 2023 11:16 AM (eOEVl)

75 Canada should invade Detroit in response.
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Canada is not stupid. They ain't going into that briar patch.

Posted by: Quizno Puddinhead at July 17, 2023 11:16 AM (2graF)

76 Is there any sport associated with Asians besides Ping Pong? Sumo?
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 17, 2023 11:11 AM (aD39U)

Judo, gymnastics, ice skating, baseball, boxing, some of the swimming strokes.. .

Posted by: Thesokorus at July 17, 2023 11:17 AM (IiPit)

77 Too late to make my Ping Pong comment, but will add badminton. Ladies Golf team might excel, as well.

Posted by: Sum Ting Wong at July 17, 2023 11:17 AM (T0tUU)

78 STEM schools in general don't seem to be known for their athletic teams.

Design teams, on the other hand, are where it's at. That's where the real competition happens at a STEM school...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 17, 2023 11:17 AM (YIVH2)

79 75 Canada should invade Detroit in response.
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Canada is not stupid. They ain't going into that briar patch.
Posted by: Quizno Puddinhead at July 17, 2023 11:16 AM (2graF)

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So, they'll choose to firebomb instead?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 17, 2023 11:17 AM (LvTSG)

80 Then there are the Subic Bay Olympics.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 17, 2023 11:17 AM (TZ75n)

81 Next up .. Justin Trudeau schedules trip to Dearborn MI to kiss Muslim ass.

Posted by: SMOD at July 17, 2023 11:18 AM (RHGPo)

82 Trans swimmer Lia Thomas decided to wear an "Antifa Super Soldier" shirt along with sexual bondage gear because of course

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True colors.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at July 17, 2023 11:18 AM (FVME7)

83 So, they'll choose to firebomb instead?

Is there anything left to burn?

Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2023 11:18 AM (eOEVl)

84 HACs sound suspiciously similar to HWSCs…being based on merit and all.

Posted by: Crazy to be sane at July 17, 2023 11:18 AM (fKjc7)

85 I hold his inclination to jail those who opposed government action on climate change against him. He's a nut.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 17, 2023 11:08 AM (LvTSG)

I doubt he actually said that. He's basically 2023's Alex Jones. People misquote him, and because he never shuts up, it's always possible to find something he said, and misrepresent it to make him sound like a nut.

But if you actually listen to him, he's way more right than he is wrong.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 17, 2023 11:18 AM (Lvh83)

86 I know STEM is starting to go woke in some areas but for STEM jobs there’s no substitute for a 4-year university degree…. I know there would’ve been no way for me to start my STEM career without the basic science and math I learned in my 4 years of undergraduate studies…. So I like the idea of HAC focusing on STEM

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 17, 2023 11:18 AM (OY8CA)

87 I am not sure what I think about the whole admissions thing.

Fairfax County has Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology. Top ranked high school in the whole country. Then things happened. Like not enough people of color there. Except for Asians (which would be what we used to call Orientals PLUS subcontinent Asians, mostly Indians). The entering class in 2018 I think was 73% Asian. This caused Fairfax administrators to reconsider the whole concept of having the top ranked HS in the country, and destroyed its admissions testing regime. You know, to be more equitable.

Clearly at 73% Asians are "over represented" in the student body as compared the national and local demographics. Is that necessarily bad? No, I don't think so.

But it is also possible that they could arrange the selection process such that the makeup is 100% Asian (they can arrange it any way they want - but just based on "merit" - who has the best test scores and grades - they could do that.) Is that a bad thing? I think it might be.

Posted by: blaster at July 17, 2023 11:18 AM (Jk9SN)

88 So, they'll choose to firebomb instead?
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Cleansing by flame is always the smart move.

Posted by: Quizno Puddinhead at July 17, 2023 11:18 AM (2graF)

89 Trans swimmer Lia Thomas decided to wear an "Antifa Super Soldier" shirt along with sexual bondage gear because of course

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True colors.

Attention gigolo needs attention.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2023 11:19 AM (eOEVl)

90 I have this feeling that Justin Trudeau wasn't actully wearing "blackface" in those photos. Think maybe he is usually wearing "whiteface".

Posted by: SMOD at July 17, 2023 11:19 AM (RHGPo)

91 I-uh, uh-I-uh,, HEY!!! Good night er'body!

yeah

Posted by: John Fetterman at July 17, 2023 11:19 AM (5hfjS)

92 PING PONG

Posted by: Borat Sagdiyev at July 17, 2023 11:19 AM (flINI)

93 Just a few short years ago "I was born a poor black child" was an obvious joke. Now it would go on my college application and be taken seriously.

If we are going to allow mentally ill people to identify as whatever they want then I'm getting in on that action. Harvard could use a man like me.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 17, 2023 11:19 AM (ZLI7S)

94 Canada should invade Detroit in response.
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Are those Indians I hear??

Oops. I think I just crapped myself.

Posted by: zombie brig. gen. william hull at July 17, 2023 11:19 AM (krqg6)

95 Is there any sport associated with Asians besides Ping Pong? Sumo?
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 17, 2023 11:11 AM (aD39U)
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All of the East Asian countries have their own martial arts styles and compete aggressively in them.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 17, 2023 11:19 AM (t0OGg)

96 But it is also possible that they could arrange the selection process such that the makeup is 100% Asian (they can arrange it any way they want - but just based on "merit" - who has the best test scores and grades - they could do that.) Is that a bad thing? I think it might be.

The only worse thing is any of the proposed cures.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2023 11:20 AM (eOEVl)

97 Trans swimmer Lia Thomas decided to wear an "Antifa Super Soldier" shirt along with sexual bondage gear because of course

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True colors.

Attention gigolo needs attention.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2023 11:19 AM (eOEVl)

He stop banging his girlfriend with is male dick and have it cut off yet?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 17, 2023 11:20 AM (Zz0t1)

98 Then there are the Subic Bay Olympics.

"You don't come here for submarine races?" - 'Po City girl

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 17, 2023 11:20 AM (nS5l5)

99 This is going to take a couple of decades to work out. The Ivy League, just like all other major institutions, is dead insofar as it's ability to turn out anything but halfwits interspersed with a few glorified mediocrities. Organizations, such as Government and Major Corporations, which hire based on only who's "in the club" and don't care even the slightest bit about quality or intelligence. But the companies that *do* care about such things will know where to look to hire actual qualified people - and over time, they will eventually end up in control.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 17, 2023 11:20 AM (i9ffA)

100 Fairfax County has Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology. Top ranked high school in the whole country. Then things happened. Like not enough people of color there. Except for Asians (which would be what we used to call Orientals PLUS subcontinent Asians, mostly Indians). The entering class in 2018 I think was 73% Asian. This caused Fairfax administrators to reconsider the whole concept of having the top ranked HS in the country, and destroyed its admissions testing regime. You know, to be more equitable.
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To my NOVA neighbors - always remember when the hint of a pandemic is in the air to buy your rice quickly.

Posted by: Quizno Puddinhead at July 17, 2023 11:20 AM (2graF)

101 Just a few short years ago "I was born a poor black child" was an obvious joke. Now it would go on my college application and be taken seriously.

If we are going to allow mentally ill people to identify as whatever they want then I'm getting in on that action. Harvard could use a man like me.

See my #28.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2023 11:21 AM (eOEVl)

102 98 Then there are the Subic Bay Olympics.

"You don't come here for submarine races?" - 'Po City girl
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Maryland's Blow Haven says hi! Subic City is where the action was at.

Posted by: Quizno Puddinhead at July 17, 2023 11:21 AM (2graF)

103 a joke originally by Twitter comedian Krang T Nelson, claiming that “millions of antifa supersoldiers will behead all white parents and small business owners.”

Posted by: SMOD at July 17, 2023 11:21 AM (RHGPo)

104 Or you could, y'know, teach the kids to score well on the tests.

The capture of the Urban School districts by the Teachers Union/Democrat Party apparatus is the root of the problem. The Urban school districts do not exist to educate the kids but to provide a jobs program for Democrat constituents connected to massive political fundraising.

School Choice seems to be the best proximate opportunity to tear that down. But there's no guarantee what follows is better.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at July 17, 2023 11:22 AM (z+89e)

105 HACs are a horrible idea.. do you realize how bad their sports teams would be?

Their mah jong trophies would reach the sky.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 17, 2023 11:22 AM (p+1gI)

106 A reviewer for Quillette magazine reviewed Martin Peretz's autobiography. Peretz owned the New Republic magazine for years, back when liberals supported free speech and democracy.

Peretz (and the reviewer) also worked for Harvard's Social Studies program, which was Harvard's version of a Great Books program, only using 19th and 20th authors (like Freud), rather than Greek classics.

The reviewer talked about some of the illustrious graduates of Harvard's Social Students program, and managed to come out with the most clueless, unaware statement I've ever seen:

[printed in my next comment]

Posted by: A Provocative Parade Of Perverts! at July 17, 2023 11:23 AM (2tUFv)

107 School Choice seems to be the best proximate opportunity to tear that down. But there's no guarantee what follows is better.

If what you're doing is guaranteed to fail, as it has been for 2 generations, then anything else is a good choice.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2023 11:23 AM (eOEVl)

108 Every person admitted to a HAC would automatically have a job offer upon being admitted.

The left can lie all they want, but actual employers want results not diversity

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 17, 2023 11:24 AM (m25NS)

109 Can't wait top see what advanced/graduate math and physics classes will look like in 20 years, if we are still around. Probably will be covering topics like algebra and gravity.

Posted by: Ripley at July 17, 2023 11:24 AM (KrJTL)

110 Great idea!

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 17, 2023 11:24 AM (VfE50)

111 The crucial point is that majors in Social Studies graduated from Harvard having read classic works in defense of the market economy, liberal democracy, the importance of ideological as well as economic factors in politics and, with Tocqueville and Freud, a serious dose of sober and anti-utopian liberalism and skepticism about communism. Today, when I observe the passionate support for Ukraine joined to a sober assessment of American national interests expressed by Secretary of State Antony Blinken, Attorney General Merrick Garland’s defense of the rule of law, or Senate Majority Leader Charles Schumer’s pushback against threats to our democracy from the American Right, I hear echoes of Tocqueville, Weber, and Freud that were central to Social Studies seminars when they were all students in the program.

Wow.

Just wow.

Quillete subscribers can comment on articles, and they justifiably roasted him in the comments.

Posted by: A Provocative Parade Of Perverts! at July 17, 2023 11:24 AM (2tUFv)

112 The people who think life as a master machinist is a tragic waste of potential and a job in a cubicle responding to emails is BASED are in charge.

Posted by: Thesokorus at July 17, 2023 11:24 AM (IiPit)

113 Or an athlete."

Any real athlete goes to Georgia. Or Alabama. Or somewhere in the SEC.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 17, 2023 11:24 AM (i9ffA)

114 SUNY Albany grad here, class of 85. When I was there the largest ethnic group were Jewish kids from Rockland, NYC and Long Island. Its politics were leftist . However over the last 35 years the SUNY system and NYS has gone completely left and the idea of a standardized test is racist, sexist, booshie etc, etc, etc. I would recommend not hiring grads from the universities that drop SAT/act from their requirements

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 17, 2023 11:24 AM (kJa+y)

115 If what you're doing is guaranteed to fail, as it has been for 2 generations, then anything else is a good choice.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2023 11:23 AM (eOEVl)
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Yup. Is "school choice" a perfect solution to the education problem? No. Is there such a thing a perfect solution? Also, no. Is the current approach to the education problem untenable, overly expensive, abject disaster? Yes.

Try something else. Even better, try a bunch of something elses. Let the trailbl@zers show the laggards which work better in which environments.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 17, 2023 11:25 AM (t0OGg)

116 85 I doubt he actually said that. He's basically 2023's Alex Jones. People misquote him, and because he never shuts up, it's always possible to find something he said, and misrepresent it to make him sound like a nut.

But if you actually listen to him, he's way more right than he is wrong.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 17, 2023 11:18 AM (Lvh83)

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You're right. He doesn't want to jail individuals. He just wants to use the force of government to get every collection of individuals to say the exact same thing about climate change as he wants:

https://is.gd/OQt5sZ

Oddly, enough, the original article got memory-holed, but here's the archived version:

https://is.gd/DUits6

He's a fascist, through and through.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 17, 2023 11:25 AM (LvTSG)

117 Is there any sport associated with Asians besides Ping Pong? Sumo?
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 17, 2023 11:11 AM (aD39U)

Judo, gymnastics, ice skating, baseball, boxing, some of the swimming strokes.. .

Posted by: Thesokorus at July 17, 2023 11:17 AM (IiPit)

Filipino dive team from 10 years ago. Epic

Posted by: Wierzbowski formerly QID at July 17, 2023 11:25 AM (OgrpQ)

118 There's going to be a lot of empty, large office buildings very soon.

This could be an opportunity to set up a new "______ Technical College" that does exactly what you say.

Small efficiency apartments on one floor, classrooms on another, offices on another.

Add a cheap cafeteria and there could be no reason for students to even leave the building during the school year.

Accelerate the classes for those capable and let them finish in 2 or 3 years what would generally take 4 in traditional colleges.

Why does an "institute of higher learning" needs millions or billions worth of property?

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 17, 2023 11:25 AM (N1DT3)

119
https://is.gd/DUits6

He's a fascist, through and through.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 17, 2023 11:25 AM (LvTSG)

Well, he IS a democrat, after all.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 17, 2023 11:26 AM (Zz0t1)

120 Maybe it's already been said, but I would think if you could start a policy at these skrewels, that you were going to limit the number of FOREIGN Asian students, people would be ok with that.

All American students are put into one pile, and admitted on the basis of merit. All foreign students, Asian or otherwise, there's a quota. No more than, say, 10% of the school's admissions.

Would solve lots of problems, but then these schools would have to give up all that sweet sweet CCP cash they like so much.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 17, 2023 11:26 AM (Lvh83)

121 When I was growing up, we needed rocket scientists to beat the Russians. School was built around accommodating the high performers with everyone else doing the best they could.

I get the impression that it isn't that way anymore.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 17, 2023 11:26 AM (I8nLU)

122 The United Asian College Fund.

Posted by: It's about time for it at July 17, 2023 11:26 AM (NBVIP)

123 119
https://is.gd/DUits6

He's a fascist, through and through.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 17, 2023 11:25 AM (LvTSG)

Well, he IS a democrat, after all.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 17, 2023 11:26 AM (Zz0t1)

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True. He's just making the right people uncomfortable.

The enemy of my enemy is not necessarily my friend.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 17, 2023 11:26 AM (LvTSG)

124 The left can lie all they want, but actual employers want results not diversity

That's what the ESG scores are for.

Posted by: A Provocative Parade Of Perverts! at July 17, 2023 11:26 AM (2tUFv)

125 go. Epic
Posted by: Wierzbowski formerly QID at July 17, 2023 11:25 AM (OgrpQ)

True? Don't follow diving.

But Flip boxers are a nightmare on avg.

Posted by: Thesokorus at July 17, 2023 11:27 AM (IiPit)

126 Then there are the Subic Bay Olympics.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 17, 2023 11:17 AM

It took dedication to medal and stand on the podium at Po City.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 17, 2023 11:28 AM (a3Q+t)

127 https://is.gd/DUits6

He's a fascist, through and through.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 17, 2023 11:25 AM (LvTSG)

Well, he IS a democrat, after all.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 17, 2023 11:26 AM (Zz0t1)

I take comfort in the fact that Biden and Co. will have him killed if he gets too close.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 17, 2023 11:28 AM (i9ffA)

128 Or you could, y'know, teach the kids to score well on the tests

Or set up a cheating ring and change answers to get the scores needed for a "bonus" for the superintendent. - Atlanta public schools.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 17, 2023 11:28 AM (TZ75n)

129 There's going to be a lot of empty, large office buildings very soon.

This could be an opportunity to set up a new "______ Technical College" that does exactly what you say.

Small efficiency apartments on one floor, classrooms on another, offices on another.

Add a cheap cafeteria and there could be no reason for students to even leave the building during the school year.

That's an excellent idea. I'd include malls in the mix. There's a lot of prime real estate going begging for tenants now.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2023 11:28 AM (eOEVl)

130 That Elon Musk character does seem to get it:
https://i.IMGur.com/GqVFwcS.png

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 17, 2023 11:28 AM (t0OGg)

131 When I was growing up, we needed rocket scientists to beat the Russians. School was built around accommodating the high performers with everyone else doing the best they could.

I get the impression that it isn't that way anymore.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 17, 2023 11:26 AM (I8nLU)

Adm Rickover pointed out that we were never really close to being as efficient as the USSR in education.

Posted by: Thesokorus at July 17, 2023 11:28 AM (IiPit)

132 The enemy of my enemy - often makes me laugh a great deal.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 17, 2023 11:29 AM (i9ffA)

133 Will: "Wood drastically underestimates the impact of social distinctions predicated upon wealth, especially inherited wealth"? You got that from Vickers' "Work in Essex County," page 98, right? Yeah, I read that too. Were you gonna plagiarize the whole thing for us? Do you have any thoughts of your own on this matter? Or do you, is that your thing, you come into a bar, read some obscure passage and then pretend - you pawn it off as your own, as your own idea just to impress some girls, embarrass my friend?

Posted by: SMOD at July 17, 2023 11:29 AM (RHGPo)

134 When I was growing up, we needed rocket scientists to beat the Russians.

Kennedy once said an a State of the Union address that America's biggest challenge was cranking out more Ph.D.s.

He didn't mean Gender Studies Ph.D.s.

Posted by: A Provocative Parade Of Perverts! at July 17, 2023 11:29 AM (2tUFv)

135 He's a fascist, through and through.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 17, 2023 11:25 AM (LvTSG)

A dangerous fascist.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 17, 2023 11:29 AM (NZowV)

136 HACs are a horrible idea.. do you realize how bad their sports teams would be?
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That's another thing: Colleges need to be our of the sports business.
All it is, is a massive publicly subsidized entertainment for mostly wealthy adults.

There is no real justification for college sports teams.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 17, 2023 11:30 AM (m25NS)

137 True? Don't follow diving.

But Flip boxers are a nightmare on avg.

Posted by: Thesokorus at July 17, 2023 11:27 AM (IiPit)

Forgot the sarc tag, they were awful at worlds. There is a video some one did with a hilarious play by play. They scored zeros across the board, but led in the belly flop department.

Posted by: Wierzbowski formerly QID at July 17, 2023 11:30 AM (OgrpQ)

138 "I would genuinely be embarrassed to have my name associated with schools such as Harvard or Penn"

Or Dartmouth. The current issue of the DAM features an article about how it's time for an Asian Studies program so they can focus on how the racist white man has abused and oppressed them.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at July 17, 2023 11:30 AM (Mzdiz)

139 124 The left can lie all they want, but actual employers want results not diversity

That's what the ESG scores are for.
Posted by: A Provocative Parade Of Perverts! at July 17, 2023 11:26 AM (2tUFv)

Because no one knows what it takes to make a pencil.
-M Friedman

Bunch of fucking retards.
-My coda

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at July 17, 2023 11:30 AM (zZu0s)

140 Adm Rickover pointed out that we were never really close to being as efficient as the USSR in education.
Posted by: Thesokorus at July 17, 2023 11:28 AM (IiPit)
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Depends on what you're after, at least to a point.

If I had a time machine and could go back and take out one person and get away with it, my choice would be to stifle John Dewey in the cradle. Of all the men who have done unspeakable damage to this country, he ranks very, very high on the list.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 17, 2023 11:30 AM (t0OGg)

141 You know who makes rockets?

Elon Musk.

And he's the worst person in the world now.

No one is going to want to be a rocket surgeon now.

Posted by: blaster at July 17, 2023 11:30 AM (Jk9SN)

142
A dangerous fascist.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 17, 2023 11:29 AM (NZowV)

Not a fan...

Posted by: It's me donna at July 17, 2023 11:31 AM (bs+z0)

143 RFK Jr. is a thing right up to the point where they convince that Michelle Owebama needs to get off his fat lazy ass and 'save this country.'

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 17, 2023 11:31 AM (Zz0t1)

144 Now that college "athletes" are going to get paid, will they be taxed on the value of the gift of a scholarship?

Posted by: TC at July 17, 2023 11:31 AM (FjlUt)

145 Right now, my white male cancer doc is retiring...and his referral choice to me was a young Asian American male doc (my doc called him the new whiz kid at the office). I get to meet him soon, but I'm almost certain to continue with that doc, b/c if you're an Asian male under 35 and you got through college and med school and then got hired, you've got to be the tippity top of your class after the last decade and a half.

Now, here's hoping he does have some bedside manner and collaboration instincts (b/c I'm a very collaborative patient)...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 17, 2023 11:31 AM (exHjb)

146 141 No one is going to want to be a rocket surgeon now.
Posted by: blaster at July 17, 2023 11:30 AM (Jk9SN)

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"Surgery? On a ~~torpedo~~ rocket? Fascinating."
-Dr. McCoy

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 17, 2023 11:31 AM (LvTSG)

147 The left can lie all they want, but actual employers want results not diversity

*Shifty eyes*

Posted by: Disney at July 17, 2023 11:31 AM (eOEVl)

148 This could be an opportunity to set up a new "______ Technical College" that does exactly what you say.

Elon Musk threatened to establish the Texas Institute of Technology and Science.

I suspect a lot of Morons would buy the swag.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 17, 2023 11:31 AM (a3Q+t)

149 Sean: Hey, Gerry, In the 1960s there was a young man that graduated from the University of Michigan. Did some brilliant work in mathematics. Specifically bounded harmonic functions. Then he went on to Berkeley. He was assistant professor. Showed amazing potential. Then he moved to Montana, and blew the competition away.
Lambeau: Yeah, so who was he?
Sean: Ted Kaczynski.

Posted by: SMOD at July 17, 2023 11:31 AM (RHGPo)

150 And then you wind up with some mush-mouth Hindu saying hambla-bimbla-bee-bee-bop-bop bullshit that you can't understand as your grad assistant professor. How are Americans supposed to learn higher level math and science from some third-worlder spitting broken English they can't even understand?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at July 17, 2023 11:11 AM (YsxBD)

Why you no like Lau Pak Organic Chemistry Class? You get F, you no study.
- Lau Pak

Posted by: BifBewalski's Phone at July 17, 2023 11:31 AM (iKXcE)

151 https://is.gd/DUits6

He's a fascist, through and through.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 17, 2023 11:25 AM (LvTSG)

You don't like him, that's fine. But he said nothing about jailing climate deniers. He was... misquoted and had what he said distorted by National Review type "conservatives."

I'll take RFK over them, every time, always.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 17, 2023 11:31 AM (yE7Zc)

152 143 RFK Jr. is a thing right up to the point where they convince that Michelle Owebama needs to get off his fat lazy ass and 'save this country.'
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 17, 2023 11:31 AM (Zz0t1)

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Every prediction of Biden just stepping aside has turned out to be wrong so far.

I'm not expecting the track record of those predictions to improve.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 17, 2023 11:32 AM (LvTSG)

153 This belongs in the EMT but Mike Pence is a pinhead.

Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at July 17, 2023 11:32 AM (wuvc4)

154 Clearly at 73% Asians are "over represented" in the student body as compared the national and local demographics.

At 12%, so are blacks.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 17, 2023 11:32 AM (ZVVGW)

155 Elon Musk is an African American.

Posted by: So, there at July 17, 2023 11:32 AM (NBVIP)

156 Notre Dame, Brandeis--started by those not allowed into the Ivies.

Do it, Asians! And leave Harvard in the dust of mediocrity.

Posted by: PJ at July 17, 2023 11:33 AM (G1dq6)

157 The United Asian College Fund.
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A waste is a terrible thing to mind.

Posted by: joey biden at July 17, 2023 11:33 AM (krqg6)

158 Filipino Dive Team at the 2015 SE Asian Championship.

https://tinyurl.com/55asrxsd

Posted by: Wierzbowski formerly QID at July 17, 2023 11:34 AM (OgrpQ)

159 151 You don't like him, that's fine. But he said nothing about jailing climate deniers. He was... misquoted and had what he said distorted by National Review type "conservatives."

I'll take RFK over them, every time, always.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 17, 2023 11:31 AM (yE7Zc)

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He wants to use the power of the state to force every corporate entity in the country to say what he wants about climate. What kind of punishments does he have in mind for when one corporate entity doesn't follow through?

Harsh language?

He'd definitely throw people in jail. Just because he's against the clot shot doesn't make him liberty loving. He's a fascist.

Just because NRO doesn't like him, that doesn't make him good. He's a monster.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 17, 2023 11:34 AM (LvTSG)

160 least to a point.

If I had a time machine and could go back and take out one person and get away with it, my choice would be to stifle John Dewey in the cradle. Of all the men who have done unspeakable damage to this country, he ranks very, very high on the list.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 17, 2023 11:30 AM (t0OGg)

Idk which is worse: overeducating ppl or over-valuing education.

I suppose they are the same thing in the end.

Having 400 mlb teams would be a terrible idea.

Posted by: Thesokorus at July 17, 2023 11:34 AM (IiPit)

161 Every prediction of Biden just stepping aside has turned out to be wrong so far.

I'm not expecting the track record of those predictions to improve.

Nobody is saying he'll just "step aside". He'll have to be pushed, but pushed he will be.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2023 11:34 AM (eOEVl)

162 HACs could focus exclusively on STEM disciplines and forego the entire distraction of “campus culture” and “college experience.”

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So, no fraternities with names like Wi Hung Lo?

Posted by: ShainS at July 17, 2023 11:34 AM (xLaq1)

163 I'll take RFK over them, every time, always.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 17, 2023 11:31 AM (yE7Zc)

I agree with him on a few things but most not... He's an abortion on demand, climate nut, and believes in Affirmative action... I do enjoy that he's making Joe's puppeteers nervous but I do not want him as President

Posted by: It's me donna at July 17, 2023 11:34 AM (bs+z0)

164 "If what you're doing is guaranteed to fail, as it has been for 2 generations, then anything else is a good choice.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2023 11:23 AM"

I agree. I just wanted to emphasize that tearing it down isn't enough. Left to their own devices, the Dems would create a New and Improved! shitshow.

"Try something else. Even better, try a bunch of something elses. Let the trailbl@zers show the laggards which work better in which environments.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 17, 2023 11:25 AM (t0OGg)"

I'd be on board for this. For example, there is no reason we don't know who the top ten or one hundred lecturers on each and every high school subjects are. Those people should have massive YouTube channels and generate the compensation that big traffic brings. Like Khan Academy on a Federal Gov't/Dept. of Ed scale.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at July 17, 2023 11:34 AM (z+89e)

165 https://is.gd/DUits6

He's a fascist, through and through.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 17, 2023 11:25 AM

Yep. Straight up.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 17, 2023 11:35 AM (FVJNG)

166 I am seriously tempted to claim my Native American status (born in Connecticut), apply for a $50k student loan (that I will never pay back) and apply to an Ivy just so I can.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 17, 2023 11:35 AM (e4fEA)

167 create tour own institution of higher learning, the South Harmon Institute of Technology

Posted by: SMOD at July 17, 2023 11:35 AM (RHGPo)

168 Adm Rickover pointed out that we were never really close to being as efficient as the USSR in education.

The USSR had nationwide "Math Olympics" for junior-high-school-aged students, specifically so they could identify the geniuses and give them special treatment in their schooling. Russia continues this.

Posted by: A Provocative Parade Of Perverts! at July 17, 2023 11:35 AM (2tUFv)

169 There is no real justification for college sports teams.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 17, 2023 11:30 AM (m25NS)

From "The Devil's Dictionary" by Ambrose Bierce, published in 1906:

ACADEME, n. An ancient school where morality and philosophy were taught.

ACADEMY, n. (from ACADEME). [1.] A modern school where football is taught.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 17, 2023 11:35 AM (i9ffA)

170 This belongs in the EMT but Mike Pence is a pinhead.

He's a scanning tunneling microscope tip.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2023 11:35 AM (eOEVl)

171 161 Nobody is saying he'll just "step aside". He'll have to be pushed, but pushed he will be.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2023 11:34 AM (eOEVl)

======

I see grumblings from insiders hoping to shape narratives, not much else.

Biden is going to be the nominee in 2024. If people within the party were actually opposing him, they'd be running candidates they supported, not grumbling about it to friendly media outlets anonymously.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 17, 2023 11:35 AM (LvTSG)

172
I'd like to see an elite trade school. STEM majors only. Non-science courses dedicated to improving scientific effectiveness. Technical writing. Effective presentation. Finance and budgets. Read Chaucer on your own.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 17, 2023 11:35 AM (MoZTd)

173 You don't like him, that's fine. But he said nothing about jailing climate deniers. He was... misquoted and had what he said distorted by National Review type "conservatives."

I'll take RFK over them, every time, always.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 17, 2023 11:31 AM (yE7Zc)

He talked about "executing" corporations that promoted "climate denialism". Close enough for me.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 17, 2023 11:36 AM (NZowV)

174
There is no real justification for college sports teams.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 17, 2023 11:30 AM (m25NS)

Alumni donations

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 17, 2023 11:36 AM (MoZTd)

175 Filipino Dive Team at the 2015 SE Asian Championship.

https://tinyurl.com/55asrxsd
Posted by: Wierzbowski formerly QID at July 17, 2023 11:34 AM (OgrpQ)

My daughter just came in and asked what I was laughing at......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 17, 2023 11:37 AM (Zz0t1)

176 173 He talked about "executing" corporations that promoted "climate denialism". Close enough for me.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 17, 2023 11:36 AM (NZowV)

=======

And we all know that people who take those sorts of actions to dictate narratives always just stop at the top layer of opposition. Right?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 17, 2023 11:37 AM (LvTSG)

177 Are we still talking about trains?

Posted by: Lost the bubble at July 17, 2023 11:37 AM (NBVIP)

178 147 The left can lie all they want, but actual employers want results not diversity

*Shifty eyes*
Posted by: Disney at July 17, 2023 11:31 AM (eOEVl)

They're right.

Posted by: Dr Ray Stanz at July 17, 2023 11:38 AM (zZu0s)

179 Yep. Do Art History on your own time.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 17, 2023 11:38 AM (TZ75n)

180
Interesting how so many universities have been infiltrated by the Chi-Coms vis a vis these so-called "Confucius Institutes" that are nothing more than front groups for spying operations that target research labs and so forth.

And yet not a peep out of the PRC for what these places are doing to Americans of Asian extraction.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 17, 2023 11:38 AM (x0n13)

181 177 Are we still talking about trains?
Posted by: Lost the bubble at July 17, 2023 11:37 AM (NBVIP)

I like trains...

Posted by: Joey choo choo at July 17, 2023 11:38 AM (bs+z0)

182 b/c if you're an Asian male under 35 and you got through college and med school and then got hired, you've got to be the tippity top of your class after the last decade and a half

Yeah, in fields like medicine, it is going to be an increasingly good idea in being racially selective in who you see.

Posted by: A Provocative Parade Of Perverts! at July 17, 2023 11:38 AM (2tUFv)

183 Biden is going to be the nominee in 2024. If people within the party were actually opposing him, they'd be running candidates they supported, not grumbling about it to friendly media outlets anonymously.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 17, 2023 11:35 AM (LvTSG)

This.

The DNC, if it wanted to be rid of Biden, could simply support a primary. It is saying there will not be one. There will be no debates.

Any candidate needs to be in the game now.

Posted by: blaster at July 17, 2023 11:38 AM (Jk9SN)

184
They're right.
Posted by: Dr Ray Stanz at July 17, 2023 11:38 AM (zZu0s)

Because YOU'VE BEEN in the private sector.......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 17, 2023 11:38 AM (Zz0t1)

185 *There is no real justification for college sports teams.*

Ahem.

Posted by: SEC Football at July 17, 2023 11:38 AM (NBVIP)

186 Alumni donations
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 17, 2023 11:36 AM (MoZTd)

Which are a grift.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 17, 2023 11:39 AM (NZowV)

187 My daughter just came in and asked what I was laughing at......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 17, 2023 11:37 AM (Zz0t1)

Absolute Gold

Posted by: Wierzbowski formerly QID at July 17, 2023 11:39 AM (OgrpQ)

188 Filipino Dive Team at the 2015 SE Asian Championship.

https://tinyurl.com/55asrxsd
Posted by: Wierzbowski formerly QID at July 17, 2023 11:34 AM (OgrpQ)

My daughter just came in and asked what I was laughing at......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 17, 2023 11:37 AM (Zz0t1)

That insane Flip bravery sometimes works against them.

As it did there god in heaven.

Posted by: Thesokorus at July 17, 2023 11:39 AM (IiPit)

189 I'd be on board for this. For example, there is no reason we don't know who the top ten or one hundred lecturers on each and every high school subjects are. Those people should have massive YouTube channels and generate the compensation that big traffic brings. Like Khan Academy on a Federal Gov't/Dept. of Ed scale.

In the end, it doesn't matter if the culture that accepts, nay, celebrates, stupidity, laziness, and unearned entitlement. The aforementioned THHSST isn't #1 because of the teachers. Like any school, there are some very good ones, and some bad ones. No, it's the cultural drive to succeed by the Asian (and to a lesser extent, the white) parents. Fairfax Co. has plenty of high achievers in those categories.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2023 11:39 AM (eOEVl)

190 When I did STEM college, they required engineering majors to take two semesters of "English Composition" because it is a well known fact that engineers can't write worth a shit.

Posted by: SMOD at July 17, 2023 11:39 AM (RHGPo)

191 Clearly at 73% Asians are "over represented" in the student body as compared the national and local demographics.

At 12%, so are blacks.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 17, 2023 11:32 AM (ZVVGW)
***

Heh.
In Washington State Blacks are 4th on the list...almost 5th. Yet they garner all the attention. Better barketing I guess.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 17, 2023 11:39 AM (e4fEA)

192 The entire US indoctrination system; K-12, colleges and universities needs to be dismantled. Anyone currently employed by it needs to be fired. Reconstitute it after a generation or two has passed on so as to not pollute it with the clinically insane again.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 17, 2023 11:39 AM (Q4IgG)

193
That insane Flip bravery sometimes works against them.

As it did there god in heaven.
Posted by: Thesokorus at July 17, 2023 11:39 AM (IiPit)

Too much out, not enough up.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 17, 2023 11:39 AM (Zz0t1)

194
Ahem.
Posted by: SEC Football at July 17, 2023 11:38 AM (NBVIP)

The purpose of a university president in the SEC is to pour coffee for the football and basketball coaches.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 17, 2023 11:40 AM (MoZTd)

195 >> Nobody is saying he'll just "step aside". He'll have to be pushed, but pushed he will be.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2023 11:34 AM (eOEVl)

Some are already pushing but he’s not going. And I predict he will not go no matter how hard they push. Dr Jill ain’t stepping aside. Notice how the cocaine in the WH went away; if the pushers had away they’d have taken that one all the way. Biden will be the dem nominee next year

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 17, 2023 11:40 AM (OY8CA)

196 DIE isn't dying. Seems like the Ivys, but also the Nots and the online degree spigots, have already developed an approach to beat the game.

Note the rise in "Apprenticeships" for 'professionals' from Harvard, University of Pennsylvania, etc. especially for teaching and administrator programs.

How are (or could) those apprenticeships be tied to government clearances/background checks currently required (i.e., public and private schools), if at all.

Posted by: L - Practice makes perfect. They know their enemy. at July 17, 2023 11:40 AM (GshMh)

197 Nobody is saying he'll just "step aside". He'll have to be pushed, but pushed he will be.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2023 11:34 AM (eOEVl)

======

I see grumblings from insiders hoping to shape narratives, not much else.

Biden is going to be the nominee in 2024. If people within the party were actually opposing him, they'd be running candidates they supported, not grumbling about it to friendly media outlets anonymously.

I guess we'll see.
*nods sagaciously*

Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2023 11:41 AM (eOEVl)

198 Too much out, not enough up.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 17, 2023 11:39 AM (Zz0t1)

Looked like he had only been told how to do it then slapped on the ass and told to go out there and show us what ya got kid.

"Okay coach!"

Posted by: Thesokorus at July 17, 2023 11:42 AM (IiPit)

199 195 Some are already pushing but he’s not going. And I predict he will not go no matter how hard they push. Dr Jill ain’t stepping aside. Notice how the cocaine in the WH went away; if the pushers had away they’d have taken that one all the way. Biden will be the dem nominee next year
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 17, 2023 11:40 AM (OY8CA)

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He learned in 2020 that he just needed to outlast any negative narratives. He had enough popular support from the party's base that he knew he'd be the only non-Bernie choice they could go with if he just hung around, and it worked out.

All of his bad votes, idiocy, and general unappealing things about his personality that came out during the primary vanished amidst the media narratives about him, and he became Good Ole' Joe once more.

He's president of the fucking United States now. He knows how the media will treat him.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 17, 2023 11:42 AM (LvTSG)

200 The DNC is figuring that they can do another of those phone calls after South Carolina, where they merely pick the president and handout minion positions

Posted by: SMOD at July 17, 2023 11:42 AM (RHGPo)

201 I would point out that there was only one college in US history that ever hosted a lynching. That was Harvard. In there defense, they were lynching a Quaker Street Preacher woman. Oddly, it was not done by the students but by the Professors.

Posted by: Puddinhead at July 17, 2023 11:42 AM (DmtxH)

202 :: gags ::
:: falls off ::
:: vomits ::
:: passes out ::
:: dies ::

Posted by: Parasitic brain slug attached to college student at July 17, 2023 11:42 AM (t0OGg)

203 Something that would move this along would be to stop awarding "Studies" degrees, and eliminate "soft" courses. Being able to get a STEM degree from a high quality university in two or three years, without wasting time on bullshit soft / social courses would be attractive. I'm familiar with the argument that university graduates should be "well rounded", but that concept was thrown overboard decades ago with all the left-wing indoctrination that goes on in most schools.

Have places like MIT and CalTech lowered their standards to accommodate lower achieving students? Can you get a degree in Women's Studies from MIT?

Posted by: a.moron at July 17, 2023 11:43 AM (tu3iY)

204 DEA held LGBTQ 'immersive experience' at gay bar for headquarters employees, four people attended

Posted by: SMOD at July 17, 2023 11:43 AM (RHGPo)

205 This.

The DNC, if it wanted to be rid of Biden, could simply support a primary. It is saying there will not be one. There will be no debates.

Any candidate needs to be in the game now.

*Frank Lautenberg has joined the chat*

Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2023 11:43 AM (eOEVl)

206 Me Sucky U?
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I understand the tuition is five dollah.
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at July 17, 2023 11:08 AM (krqg6)

20 bucks, same as in town...

Posted by: SturmToddler at July 17, 2023 11:43 AM (Mkvkw)

207 And yet not a peep out of the PRC for what these places are doing to Americans of Asian extraction.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 17, 2023 11:38 AM (x0n13)

My guess is the Commies figure they can steal anything they need, then take it from there with an education system that is focused on actual learning and ideological purity-because freedom is not a quintessential ingredient in rapid innovation.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at July 17, 2023 11:43 AM (zZu0s)

208 Have places like MIT and CalTech lowered their standards to accommodate lower achieving students?

MIT yes, Cal Tech no.

Posted by: A Provocative Parade Of Perverts! at July 17, 2023 11:44 AM (2tUFv)

209 He wants to use the power of the state to force every corporate entity in the country to say what he wants about climate. What kind of punishments does he have in mind for when one corporate entity doesn't follow through?

Harsh language?

He'd definitely throw people in jail. Just because he's against the clot shot doesn't make him liberty loving. He's a fascist.

Just because NRO doesn't like him, that doesn't make him good. He's a monster.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 17, 2023 11:34 AM (LvTSG)

He said nothing about throwing anyone in jail for disagreeing with him. Nothing.

I don't know what you have to tell yourself to believe that, but it's not true. Criticize him for what he says, not what you think he's going to do.

The NRO people want to send Americans halfway around the world to kill and get killed. That's evil. They're monsters. And so are most of the Republicans running for president right now. I'll take a Kennedy Democrat over them too.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 17, 2023 11:44 AM (4VOsa)

210 The best thing about the SCOTUS ruling was all the crying mid wit celebrities admitting that they were/are affirmative action beneficiaries, which we all knew anyway...

Posted by: gourmand du jour at July 17, 2023 11:44 AM (MeG8a)

211 200 The DNC is figuring that they can do another of those phone calls after South Carolina, where they merely pick the president and handout minion positions
Posted by: SMOD at July 17, 2023 11:42 AM (RHGPo)

=========

I think the Jim Clyburn endorsement was a con, a narrative for what was inevitably going to happen: Joe walking away with the win in SC.

Do you really think the Democrat voters of SC were aching to vote for Kamala or someone else and then just fell in line once Clyburn opened his dumb mouth?

No. It was always a race between Bernie, the most popular of the candidates, and Biden, due to his proximity to the Obama administration. The rest of the field was desperately out-woking each other for months, and it was unappealing to the Democratic base of voters themselves.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 17, 2023 11:44 AM (LvTSG)

212 This bikini blonde with very white teeth doesn't regret going to diving school instead of college:
https://is.gd/7OnYpl

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 17, 2023 11:44 AM (t0OGg)

213 Nobody is saying he'll just "step aside". He'll have to be pushed, but pushed he will be.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2023 11:34 AM (eOEVl)

Some are already pushing but he’s not going. And I predict he will not go no matter how hard they push. Dr Jill ain’t stepping aside. Notice how the cocaine in the WH went away; if the pushers had away they’d have taken that one all the way. Biden will be the dem nominee next year
Posted by: LinusVanPelt

Wait until he tumbles DOWN the steps on AF1 from the top, instead of tumbling up one or two stairs.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 17, 2023 11:44 AM (ZVVGW)

214 204 DEA held LGBTQ 'immersive experience' at gay bar for headquarters employees, four people attended
Posted by: SMOD at July 17, 2023 11:43 AM (RHGPo)

Stick with me here. What if you spent Pride month watching busty lesbian pr0n?

Posted by: blaster at July 17, 2023 11:44 AM (Jk9SN)

215 We do not have an educational system.

We have a schooling system.

Operated in good faith, it can provide education.

It is not being operated in good faith.

Posted by: Parker at July 17, 2023 11:45 AM (hJWil)

216 When I did STEM college, they required engineering majors to take two semesters of "English Composition" because it is a well known fact that engineers can't write worth a shit.
Posted by: SMOD at July 17, 2023 11:39 AM (RHGPo)
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I teach freshman composition at a STEM school for precisely that reason. Even the foreign professors acknowledge that strong writing skills are essential in engineering and science.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 17, 2023 11:45 AM (YIVH2)

217 If admissions were based strictly on merit and the school had outstanding teachers, only the brightest students would be accepted. The admissions team would be reviewing students who are smarter than they are, choosing that team would be difficult. Teachers would work with students who are smarter than they are, teachers would compete for jobs at such a school. Administrators would be working with students, teachers, and other staff who are very bright. Hiring administrators would be tough. Such a school should successfully compete for research grants. The research coming from such a school would be first-class. The school should generate significant revenue from licensing patent rights. Expect world-class pranks - think Cal Tech, Georgia Tech, Michigan Tech, Colorado School of Mines, MIT - the pranks would be awesome! I grew up in a town a little like that, I would move there.

Posted by: Richard at July 17, 2023 11:45 AM (xGLnO)

218 DailyMail: Democrats launch creepy attack ad showing an elderly GOP congressman WATCHING young couple have sex to stop them using a condom ahead of state elections focused on reproductive rights

Posted by: SMOD at July 17, 2023 11:45 AM (RHGPo)

219 Stick with me here. What if you spent Pride month watching busty lesbian pr0n?
Posted by: blaster at July 17, 2023 11:44 AM (Jk9SN)

I thought we did the pron debate a thread or two ago?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at July 17, 2023 11:45 AM (zZu0s)

220
Looked like he had only been told how to do it then slapped on the ass and told to go out there and show us what ya got kid.

"Okay coach!"
Posted by: Thesokorus at July 17, 2023 11:42 AM (IiPit)

"IT'S NOT THE LONG JUMP!!!"

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 17, 2023 11:45 AM (Zz0t1)

221 Wait until he tumbles DOWN the steps on AF1 from the top, instead of tumbling up one or two stairs.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 17, 2023 11:44 AM (ZVVGW)

If only

Posted by: It's me donna at July 17, 2023 11:45 AM (bs+z0)

222 This bikini blonde with very white teeth doesn't regret going to diving school instead of college:
https://is.gd/7OnYpl
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 17, 2023 11:44 AM (t0OGg)

She'll flunk out of diving school if she keeps wearing her Scuba tanks on the front.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 17, 2023 11:46 AM (NZowV)

223 215 We do not have an educational system.

We have a schooling system.

Operated in good faith, it can provide education.

It is not being operated in good faith.
Posted by: Parker at July 17, 2023 11:45 AM (hJWil)

Daycare for parents.

Indoctrination for Teachers.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at July 17, 2023 11:46 AM (zZu0s)

224 209 The NRO people want to send Americans halfway around the world to kill and get killed. That's evil. They're monsters. And so are most of the Republicans running for president right now. I'll take a Kennedy Democrat over them too.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 17, 2023 11:44 AM (4VOsa)

=======

You act like my choices are to support one or the other. I support neither.

They're both fascists.

Kennedy has said that he wants to use to power of the state to compel speech and "kill" (direct quote) corporate entities that don't fall in line. If that's the kind of Kennedy Democrat you support, then more power to you.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 17, 2023 11:46 AM (LvTSG)

225 "IT'S NOT THE LONG JUMP!!!"
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 17, 2023 11:45 AM (Zz0t1)

"Right coach! Jump higher next time!"

Posted by: Thesokorus at July 17, 2023 11:46 AM (IiPit)

226 The DNC, if it wanted to be rid of Biden, could simply support a primary. It is saying there will not be one. There will be no debates.
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The Left will never allow the party to vote. They have the party held hostage and they ain't gonna let go. They will nominate Biden and replace once he is inaugurated. They know they can print a win - why would they chance anything?

Posted by: Puddinhead at July 17, 2023 11:47 AM (DmtxH)

227 "Trotsky opposed Lenin! That means that Trotsky is my kind of guy!"

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 17, 2023 11:47 AM (LvTSG)

228 DEA held LGBTQ 'immersive experience' at gay bar for headquarters employees, four people attended
Posted by: SMOD at July 17, 2023 11:43 AM (RHGPo)

Getting immersed in lesbians sounds interesting.

Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at July 17, 2023 11:47 AM (wuvc4)

229 Bob Iger's trying to, in a roundabout way, blame Disney's fans (again) for Disney's recent failures.

Variety Magazine: https://tinyurl.com/7nsvvaet

According to Bob, it's not a quality issue, it's quantity and exhausted fans. Disney has just produced too much awesome and diluted the products. Uh huh.

No Bob, it's quality, and the fact that you turned a family entertainment company into something more aligned with the "pedobear" vibe, except it isn't a meme or a joke, it's real, and it's driving your core customers away.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 17, 2023 11:47 AM (nRMeC)

230 Canada uses pure stats to admit

completely demo-blind - you hit the GPA/SAT/ACT numbers they require, pay the fee, you're in

that's it

they tend to have pretty high student enrollment compared to the USA and they don't guarantee housing (which is a farce / ripoff anyway here)

if liberal Canada can do this why can't we

Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 17, 2023 11:48 AM (AcWfM)

231 Abigail Disney, the granddaughter of Roy O. Disney and self-described Patriotic Millionaire, was arrested Friday as she joined a climate protest at an airport in the Hamptons.

Posted by: SMOD at July 17, 2023 11:48 AM (RHGPo)

232 I am uh not opposed to the uh demise of "corporate entities" myself.

Not very concerned with the motive question any longer.

Posted by: Thesokorus at July 17, 2023 11:48 AM (IiPit)

233 According to Bob, it's not a quality issue, it's quantity and exhausted fans. Disney has just produced too much awesome and diluted the products. Uh huh.

No Bob, it's quality, and the fact that you turned a family entertainment company into something more aligned with the "pedobear" vibe, except it isn't a meme or a joke, it's real, and it's driving your core customers away.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 17, 2023 11:47 AM (nRMeC)
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It's a bit of both. There *is* too much new content, and that's a problem on its own. The bigger problem is that all of that new content is depraved trash.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 17, 2023 11:49 AM (t0OGg)

234 According to Bob, it's not a quality issue, it's quantity and exhausted fans. Disney has just produced too much awesome and diluted the products. Uh huh.

Well, that must mean your streaming service is doing land office business then, since you can watch whatever you want, whenever you aren't exhausted. Right?

Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2023 11:49 AM (eOEVl)

235 Kennedy has said that he wants to use to power of the state to compel speech and "kill" (direct quote) corporate entities that don't fall in line. If that's the kind of Kennedy Democrat you support, then more power to you.
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Well, James, the rule of feudalism is you only get to be King if you can control the Earls. So RFK does understand that. Currently, the Earls control the King. We just don't who they are.

Posted by: Puddinhead at July 17, 2023 11:49 AM (2graF)

236 NYPost: When in Rome … another tourist has defaced the Colosseum. A Swiss girl carved her initials into the iconic amphitheater — less than a month after another tourist stunningly defaced the ancient landmark with his and his fiancée’s names Police have launched an investigation after Italian tour guide David Battaglino captured video of the unidentified 17-year-old girl carving the letter “N” into the wall, La Repubblica reported. The footage posted on Twitter by Italian news agency ANSA shows the blond girl, whose face is blurred, using an object to carve the letter before she backs off amid the attention.

Posted by: SMOD at July 17, 2023 11:49 AM (RHGPo)

237 229 According to Bob, it's not a quality issue, it's quantity and exhausted fans. Disney has just produced too much awesome and diluted the products. Uh huh.

No Bob, it's quality, and the fact that you turned a family entertainment company into something more aligned with the "pedobear" vibe, except it isn't a meme or a joke, it's real, and it's driving your core customers away.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 17, 2023 11:47 AM (nRMeC)

======

Eh. Quantity is definitely part of it. Shoving constant MCU content at audiences on Disney+ definitely diluted the brand.

It's not like Thor: The Dark World was some sort of masterpiece, and yet it didn't kill the momentum of the MCU at the time.

It's not everything, but so much content made the brands much less special while filling the space with so much information that you had to pay attention to all of it in order to keep up at all.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 17, 2023 11:49 AM (LvTSG)

238 holy crap I read something yesterday - an excerpt from Iger's book (autobiography or something, he wrote about himself) - he's the reason Twin Peaks Season 2 sucked - he pushed Lynch/Frost out with this dumb changes and requirements!

so now I REALLY hate the guy

I wonder if he had any influence on the name "Bob" hmm? and the actual murderer/scenario b/c later Lynch said that wasn't really what he was planning at all (he wanted to never reveal and go fully supernatural on Laura's murder)

Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 17, 2023 11:50 AM (AcWfM)

239 227 "Trotsky opposed Lenin! That means that Trotsky is my kind of guy!"
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 17, 2023 11:47 AM (LvTSG)

*whispers*

Stalin.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at July 17, 2023 11:50 AM (zZu0s)

240 Is lesbian immersion kind of like that McDonald's thing with the balls, except lesbians?

Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at July 17, 2023 11:50 AM (wuvc4)

241 "Trotsky opposed Lenin! That means that Trotsky is my kind of guy!"
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 17, 2023 11:47 AM (LvTSG)

I mean, yeah. But Stalin provided the credited response with the ice-pick. I give him full credit for that.

Posted by: Thesokorus at July 17, 2023 11:50 AM (IiPit)

242 Front seldom tell truth. To know occupants of house, always look in backyard.

Posted by: Charlie Chan, "Charlie Chan In London" at July 17, 2023 11:50 AM (uesY9)

243
No Bob, it's quality, and the fact that you turned a family entertainment company into something more aligned with the "pedobear" vibe, except it isn't a meme or a joke, it's real, and it's driving your core customers away.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 17, 2023 11:47 AM (nRMeC)

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Trumpy Bear >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pedobear

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 17, 2023 11:50 AM (Zz0t1)

244 When I did STEM college, they required engineering majors to take two semesters of "English Composition" because it is a well known fact that engineers can't write worth a shit.
Posted by: SMOD at July 17, 2023 11:39 AM (RHGPo)

My first year working at a large NW-based Defense and Airplane company, I was the only non-engineer in the group. I got to read everyone's papers and edit for clarity.
A: Not particularly fun
B: I learned a lot

Posted by: Diogenes at July 17, 2023 11:51 AM (e4fEA)

245 My beloved DIL is Asian. The Ivies say Asians lack personality. What an egregious insult.

Anyway my Asian DIL has an MBA from Harvard. I asked if the coursework was challenging. Her reply:"Nah. It was just a schmooze fest."

And there you are.

Posted by: Regular joe at July 17, 2023 11:51 AM (nnp+f)

246 He talked about "executing" corporations that promoted "climate denialism". Close enough for me.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 17, 2023 11:36 AM (NZowV)

Apparently the term is "corporate death penalty," which is a lawyer thing that's real. Like cigarette companies that lie about studies that show smoking causes cancer.

Now, I'm not in favor of government "killing" corporations, but I'm not a Democrat. He is. I'm not sure if such a thing has ever happened in this country. Maybe it has, but last I checked the cigarette companies are still up and running.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 17, 2023 11:52 AM (yE7Zc)

247 Historically Asian Colleges

Seems perfect for Rice.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 17, 2023 11:52 AM (e4fEA)

248 I wonder if he had any influence on the name "Bob" hmm? and the actual murderer/scenario b/c later Lynch said that wasn't really what he was planning at all (he wanted to never reveal and go fully supernatural on Laura's murder)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 17, 2023 11:50 AM (AcWfM)

I think Twin Peaks is best enjoyed if you never see the reveal. Going full supernatural I am not sure is the way to go either. Honestly, I think the supernatural element kind of presents a relief valve for the oddity that builds within the show. It's like 'Oh, it's supernatural, that why this place is full banana sandwich.'

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at July 17, 2023 11:52 AM (zZu0s)

249 Stalin.

Trotsky makes the speeches.

I'm the boring guy in the personnel office who makes sure that all my people hold the key positions in the bureaucracy.

Guess who wins?

Posted by: Zombie Joe! at July 17, 2023 11:52 AM (2tUFv)

250 It's not everything, but so much content made the brands much less special while filling the space with so much information that you had to pay attention to all of it in order to keep up at all.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 17, 2023 11:49 AM (LvTSG)
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Oversaturation of the marketplace with product. And most of that product is garbage. Definitely a reason why people are tuning out. They are looking for *quality* storytelling not *quantity*.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 17, 2023 11:52 AM (YIVH2)

251 I mean, yeah. But Stalin provided the credited response with the ice-pick. I give him full credit for that.
Posted by: Thesokorus at July 17, 2023 11:50 AM (IiPit)

Ice Axe

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop, pedant at July 17, 2023 11:53 AM (zZu0s)

252 244 When I did STEM college, they required engineering majors to take two semesters of "English Composition" because it is a well known fact that engineers can't write worth a shit.
Posted by: SMOD at July 17, 2023 11:39 AM (RHGPo)
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This is true.

Posted by: Puddinhead at July 17, 2023 11:53 AM (2graF)

253 Fox Butterfield, paging Fox Butterfield to the white courtesy phone...

INCENTIVES MATTER: Why Homelessness in California is Worse Than In Other States. “Stanford recently looked at it last year, their school of economics looked at it, and they found were over the last 10 years, most of the United States homelessness dropped by roughly 9%. In the same period here in the state of California, it went up by 43%.”

Much more at the link. If you don’t have the time or inclination to watch the video, Lawrence Person has done his usual excellent job of breaking out the bullet points.

https://tinyurl.com/zj8cys7h

Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2023 11:53 AM (eOEVl)

254 let's just say those that don't get into a Historically Asian College....

*whips off sunglasses*

...can't HAC it.

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!

Posted by: David Caruso, by a dumpster by the 7-11, in Miami. at July 17, 2023 11:54 AM (HACXu)

255 This bikini blonde with very white teeth doesn't regret going to diving school instead of college:
https://is.gd/7OnYpl
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 17, 2023 11:44 AM (t0OGg)

I'd like to plunge her depths.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 17, 2023 11:54 AM (e4fEA)

256 I'd like to plunge her depths.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 17, 2023 11:54 AM (e4fEA)

I can fathom why.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop, pedant at July 17, 2023 11:55 AM (zZu0s)

257 regular Joe that all sounds right

at the moment going thru college admissions/visits etc (over the past few years as well, watching the changes) ...

I would absolutely make my kids apply to a "HAC" sounds fantastic!

and the idea of more conservatories for the arts (and maybe humanities) is terrific. they do actually exist in the arts already but silly students sometimes take arts majors at schools like U Penn which is mystifying

also the better LACs like Swat and Pomona are becoming HEAVILY Asian especially in STEM (which they've shifted focus to). I think LACs (the smart ones) will save themselves this way.

and like I mentioned here before a lot of very very smart guys are going with state universities and not even bothering to apply to Ivies nowadays. Georgia Tech and Alabama are gonna have a lot of really sharp young men from the NE in their STEM depts

Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 17, 2023 11:55 AM (AcWfM)

258 My friend and his son are visiting all the potential colleges this summer . They visited Harvard and Boston College this weekend.

The admissions people are going to get a headache because the kid is half Asian (Korean) and half Hispanic.

Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2023 11:55 AM (5e0cQ)

259 154 Clearly at 73% Asians are "over represented" in the student body as compared the national and local demographics.

At 12%, so are blacks.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 17, 2023 11:32 AM (ZVVGW)

In that year, blacks admitted rounded to 0%.

Hispanic was 2.7%. White was 19%.

Posted by: blaster at July 17, 2023 11:56 AM (Jk9SN)

260 Historically Asian Colleges

Seems perfect for Rice.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 17, 2023 11:52 AM

Shut 'er down, folks, we have a winnah!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 17, 2023 11:56 AM (FVJNG)

261 Now, I'm not in favor of government "killing" corporations, but I'm not a Democrat. He is. I'm not sure if such a thing has ever happened in this country. Maybe it has, but last I checked the cigarette companies are still up and running.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 17, 2023 11:52 AM (yE7Zc)

If you had read the link, which you obviously didn't, Kennedy mentioned that a couple of pro-tobacco "think tanks', financed by Big Tobacco, were dis-chartered by some level of government, New York State, I think. That is coerced speech, or non-speech, as the case may be. The fucker is flat-out evil. As sand in the gears of the Donk machine, he may have his uses, but he should never be allowed to get his hands on the levers of power, because he will assuredly come after us.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 17, 2023 11:56 AM (NZowV)

262 252 244 When I did STEM college, they required engineering majors to take two semesters of "English Composition" because it is a well known fact that engineers can't write worth a shit.
Posted by: SMOD at July 17, 2023 11:39 AM (RHGPo)
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This is true.
Posted by: Puddinhead at July 17, 2023 11:53 AM (2graF)

All hard science majors had to take a few 'social studies'. I filled mine (and more) with History classes.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop, pedant at July 17, 2023 11:56 AM (zZu0s)

263 How will all this affect Aunt Becky's family?

Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at July 17, 2023 11:56 AM (wuvc4)

264 You act like...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 17, 2023 11:46 AM (LvTSG)

No, I don't. Now you're distorting what I said.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 17, 2023 11:56 AM (yE7Zc)

265 258 My friend and his son are visiting all the potential colleges this summer . They visited Harvard and Boston College this weekend.

The admissions people are going to get a headache because the kid is half Asian (Korean) and half Hispanic.
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Dress him up to look like Harry Potter. They will be on him in a NY Minute.

Posted by: Puddinhead at July 17, 2023 11:57 AM (2graF)

266 I think Twin Peaks is best enjoyed if you never see the reveal

that was what Lynch wanted to do.

Iger made him resolve it - plus made a lot of other changes Lynch hated so he turned his back on it after Season One entirely. which is why S2 sucked

in his book Iger said "yeah I probably screwed that up myself"

thanks you asshat!

Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 17, 2023 11:57 AM (AcWfM)

267 Drop of water on thirsty tongue more precious than gold in purse.

Posted by: Charlie Chan, "Charlie Chan In Egypt" at July 17, 2023 11:57 AM (uesY9)

268 There is nothing the left can't fuck up.

Meanwhile mass shooter in GA dies in confrontation with the cops. He killed four. No known motive.

Posted by: Javems at July 17, 2023 11:57 AM (AmoqO)

269 Kennedy is a pimp. He could never have outfought Santino.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 17, 2023 11:58 AM (I8nLU)

270 Historically Asian Colleges

Seems perfect for Rice.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 17, 2023 11:52 AM

Hah that's what I joked to my friend before the SC ruling. And the kid will probably end up going there.

Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2023 11:58 AM (5e0cQ)

271 All hard science majors had to take a few 'social studies'. I filled mine (and more) with History classes.
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Reading history is important. I would say the current situation is that no one knows their own history, much less, world history. Both History and Biology agree - all humans are predatory.

Posted by: Puddinhead at July 17, 2023 11:58 AM (2graF)

272 The admissions people are going to get a headache because the kid is half Asian (Korean) and half Hispanic.
Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2023 11:55 AM (5e0cQ)

If I understand the racist's math, if you have a mix of aggrieved and oppressor, the result is ALL of the aggrieved minority, in this case Hispanic. You see this all the time with kids with a black and white parent.

I feel dirty even typing that.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop, pedant at July 17, 2023 11:59 AM (zZu0s)

273 Biden is the nominee and if not him, Kamala. Everything else is the usual fever dream. I remember when Hillary was "definitely" going to primary an "unpopular" Obama. It went on and on.

Posted by: ... at July 17, 2023 11:59 AM (JBDkq)

274 mine used AP Lit and APUSH to take out the humanities credits before they even set foot on campus

Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 17, 2023 11:59 AM (AcWfM)

275 In olden times, an engineering degree took five years, because students had to take the same core curriculum as the human race did. In the wake of Sputnik that all changed. The crowds chanting "Hey-ho, Western Civ has got to go" were not radicals; they were Junior Science Assistants, dreading that one Gentleman's C on their transcript might delay the employment permit that would slide them into a nameless faceless back bench in the bowels of some megacorp or government department. They got their way, and now can communicate only with each other. Once in a while some big outfit cleans house, and then you have to hear the turned-out apprentices whine about those damned English majors who ruined their lives. It's the first time they've ever spoken in public.

"Nobody should be allowed to major in that stuff!"
Get back to your oar, 41. We keep you alive to serve this ship.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at July 17, 2023 11:59 AM (4PZHB)

276 Trotsky had his own theory of "permanent revolution"

Posted by: SMOD at July 17, 2023 11:59 AM (RHGPo)

277 47 Not exclusively muslims; maybe 40% heritage Canadians there, too.

not gonna check urban dictionary. wouldn't be prudent.

Posted by: peasant scum anachronda at July 17, 2023 11:59 AM (sGtp+)

278 273 Biden is the nominee and if not him, Kamala. Everything else is the usual fever dream. I remember when Hillary was "definitely" going to primary an "unpopular" Obama. It went on and on.
Posted by: ... at July 17, 2023 11:59 AM (JBDkq)

======

I remember when the controversy around Fast and Furious was so potent that Obama wouldn't even run for re-election.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 17, 2023 11:59 AM (LvTSG)

279 Now, I'm not in favor of government "killing" corporations, but I'm not a Democrat. He is. I'm not sure if such a thing has ever happened in this country. Maybe it has, but last I checked the cigarette companies are still up and running.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 17, 2023 11:52 AM (yE7Zc)

If you had read the link, which you obviously didn't, Kennedy mentioned that a couple of pro-tobacco "think tanks', financed by Big Tobacco, were dis-chartered by some level of government, New York State, I think. That is coerced speech, or non-speech, as the case may be. The fucker is flat-out evil. As sand in the gears of the Donk machine, he may have his uses, but he should never be allowed to get his hands on the levers of power, because he will assuredly come after us.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 17, 2023 11:56 AM (NZowV)

I read as much as I needed to. I don't care that New York state "dis-chartered" some think tanks.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 17, 2023 11:59 AM (yE7Zc)

280 276 Trotsky had his own theory of "permanent revolution"

like a record, baby, round round right round

Posted by: peasant scum anachronda at July 17, 2023 12:00 PM (sGtp+)

281 You see this all the time with kids with a black and white parent.

Works for us!

Posted by: Bathhouse Barry and Colon Kapernick! at July 17, 2023 12:00 PM (2tUFv)

282 Happy Monday.

I've always hated race and gender based universities.

But a bigger problem is something so foundational as education has been hijacked. Clearly not putting protections or controls around education is even worse than not putting protections and controls around mass media.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at July 17, 2023 12:01 PM (xcxpd)

283 I also believe that there are reasons to consider things other than just how "bright" a student is. What if they are really smart, but also a criminal?

Posted by: blaster at July 17, 2023 12:01 PM (Jk9SN)

284 BTW, they're already bastardizing STEM by adding "Arts" and calling it STEAM.

Soon, it'll be LGBTQIA+PEDO+STEAM ...

Posted by: ShainS at July 17, 2023 12:01 PM (xLaq1)

285 Weeping for the murdered think tanks rn tbh

Posted by: Thesokorus at July 17, 2023 12:01 PM (IiPit)

286 Reading history is important. I would say the current situation is that no one knows their own history, much less, world history. Both History and Biology agree - all humans are predatory.
Posted by: Puddinhead at July 17, 2023 11:58 AM (2graF)

IU was big into Soviet and Revolutionary history (Ekloff and Rabinowich.) I got really lucky in that the normal Roman History prof was out sick and had to be subbed by a Religious Studies Prof (Beduhn) when I went to take Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire. He was awesome. Rabinowich was awesome (if the picture of absent minded.) Professor Carmichael was awesome for History of Epidemics and the Black Death (tiny little woman with an MD-PHD from Duke.)

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop, pedant at July 17, 2023 12:02 PM (zZu0s)

287 not gonna check urban dictionary. wouldn't be prudent.
Posted by: peasant scum anachronda at July 17, 2023 11:59 AM (sGtp+)

Meaning people not outwardly muslim. White people, black people, but not wearing the muzzie getup.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 17, 2023 12:02 PM (NZowV)

288 Cal Tech probably already qualifies as a historically Asian college. It has resisted much of the racial discrimination we have seen over the years, unlike its east coast counterpart, MIT. MIT will probably drop test scores, or maybe it already has, but I doubt that Cal Tech will do that.

Posted by: Ralph at July 17, 2023 12:02 PM (wnTj5)

289 A family car is struck during the sea drones attack on the Crimea bridge. Parents tragically lost their lives, while doctors are fighting to save the child. The family was on their way to summer holidays. Ukraine media confirm Ukraine stands behind the attack.

.. damn, I just don't think vacationing in a war zone is a good idea.

Posted by: SMOD at July 17, 2023 12:02 PM (RHGPo)

290 Nood. Kamala.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop, pedant at July 17, 2023 12:02 PM (zZu0s)

291 Biden is the nominee and if not him, Kamala. Everything else is the usual fever dream. I remember when Hillary was "definitely" going to primary an "unpopular" Obama. It went on and on.

Posted by: ... at July 17, 2023 11:59 AM (JBDkq)

Resurrect Howard Dean...he's not busy.

Posted by: BignJames at July 17, 2023 12:02 PM (AwYPR)

292 I-uh, uh-I-uh,, th-th-think-uh, was-was thinking that-uh, that-uh, uh,, th-thinking that-that uhhmmmm...

yeah

Posted by: John Fetterman at July 17, 2023 12:02 PM (5hfjS)

293 283 I also believe that there are reasons to consider things other than just how "bright" a student is. What if they are really smart, but also a criminal?
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Then they become a Politician.

Posted by: Puddinhead at July 17, 2023 12:03 PM (2graF)

294 I'd love to know what the expected outcome is for a society that not just devalues but actually punishes achievement and promotes underachievers. Surely the temporary feel-goodism is weighed against the necessity of competence.

Or not. Do the people who demand such a system ever go to the DMV and are they pleased at what they see? Sometimes I feel like the guy from Idiocracy; like I'm nothing special but I'm now apparently smarter than everyone else.

Posted by: red speck at July 17, 2023 12:03 PM (0Id0S)

295 What you need is (a) money (b) highly competent faculty and (c) some residual leftover corporate space

I'm all in favor of competitive Athletics but not sacrificing the school to them, make cooperative deals with other local facilities.

But first you need a and b and a tightly controlled program. No 'studies' programs

Posted by: JEM at July 17, 2023 12:03 PM (8erNz)

296 265 The admissions people are going to get a headache because the kid is half Asian (Korean) and half Hispanic.
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Dress him up to look like Harry Potter. They will be on him in a NY Minute.

dress him up to look like snow white to *really* clinch the deal.

Posted by: peasant scum anachronda at July 17, 2023 12:03 PM (sGtp+)

297 Weeping for the murdered think tanks rn tbh
Posted by: Thesokorus at July 17, 2023 12:01 PM (IiPit)

We should elect Mike Pence for President. He'd send those think tanks to Ukraine on his FIRST DAY.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 17, 2023 12:03 PM (yE7Zc)

298 I feel dirty even typing that.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop, pedant at July 17, 2023 11:59 AM (zZu0s)

Yes and I will feel even dirtier pointing out that the Asian gene is dominant so the kid looks Asian and that will be held against him in any in person interview.

Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2023 12:04 PM (5e0cQ)

299 If we had any chance of a real election, the order of preference now would be-
Trump
Kennedy
DeSantis.

Posted by: JmT at July 17, 2023 12:05 PM (18RTj)

300 291 Biden is the nominee and if not him, Kamala. Everything else is the usual fever dream. I remember when Hillary was "definitely" going to primary an "unpopular" Obama. It went on and on.

Posted by: ... at July 17, 2023 11:59 AM (JBDkq)
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As I recall, she won the primaries and lost the caucuses. Evidently, no one wanted to be seen voting against the Halfrican.

Posted by: Puddinhead at July 17, 2023 12:05 PM (2graF)

301 Weeping for the murdered think tanks rn tbh
Posted by: Thesokorus at July 17, 2023 12:01 PM (IiPit)

***

I always thought think tanks were a stupid idea...
Who needs to get into a tank to think?

Speaking of which, I went with a small group to tour McDonalds headquarters in Chicago and one of our group had an in with one of the muckitty mucks and McDogballs. We got to see the "tank" where the Big Mac was conceived. It was space saucer shaped and the interior was filled with cushions.

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at July 17, 2023 12:05 PM (flINI)

302 I'll have to say race is getting close to affecting blacks, by forcing them to kayak, hike, go camping, off-roading, and buying trucks. But if this is what it takes to erase wypippa (but not female wypippa) then let's see how it goes.

Posted by: Eromero at July 17, 2023 12:06 PM (Uv0D2)

303 The DMV is like the Post Office - I used to train USPS tech staff- - there are really good people and really incompetent people

Posted by: JEM at July 17, 2023 12:06 PM (8erNz)

304
I do, however, believe that corporations which deliberately, purposefully, maliciously and systematically sponsor climate lies should be given the death penalty. RFK jr

Nice corporation you have there, oil industry. Shame if something bad happened to it. Now start paying reparations until gasoline is ten bucks a gallon.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at July 17, 2023 12:07 PM (enJYY)

305 Add Fordham University to the list of No SAT No Standards.
They just do what Columbia does, and think they're smart.

Posted by: Iblis at July 17, 2023 12:07 PM (9221z)

306 This is all just a sideshow anyways. The brief resurgence in US manufacturing under PDT has been mostly pissed away again, and state DOTs/federal DOT are teeing up a generation's worth of, uh, "diversely engineered" public projects. It's not like we have much use for STEM grads anymore. Tech is getting the Central American landscaper crew treatment, but from India. An interesting window into this is hitting up discussions among the 20-something crowd comparing notes on which degrees are resulting in jobs, and for how much. It's not that there isn't STEM money to be made - it's that the degrees aren't worth it *at all*, in most cases.

Even the prog project to convince Russia that it's a good idea to Leroy Jenkins into WW3 is only spinning up a sad ghost of our pre-91 production and design capacity. We make good weapons - but only when we actually bother to make them.

Posted by: somedood at July 17, 2023 12:08 PM (BW9UA)

307 "DailyMail: Democrats launch creepy attack ad showing an elderly GOP congressman WATCHING young couple have sex to stop them using a condom ahead of state elections focused on reproductive rights"

Saw that posted up on twatter. Based on a complete and total lie, but still a sharp and clever ad once you pushed the titanic untruth out of the way.

And sad to say, effective if the dopes screaming in the twattie comments were any indication.

Posted by: Boxx Culvert, 2023 pronouns: Shad/dap at July 17, 2023 12:09 PM (HACXu)

308 The only reason I would not consider Asian testing and GPA on same level for admittance as maybe others is that testing and grades are their single focus. I need to see something that goes with that Something natural and innate. I would look for that in all candidates.

Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2023 12:10 PM (5e0cQ)

309 It's not that there isn't STEM money to be made - it's that the degrees aren't worth it *at all*, in most cases.
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Yep. Flood the market with newbies and gut your own. Seems to be diversity in a nutshell.

Posted by: Puddinhead at July 17, 2023 12:10 PM (2graF)

310 No, do NOT "focus exclusively on STEM disciplines" at your proposed universities. Maybe in the upper classes, but the first couple years absolutely must include the classic Liberal Arts of Literature, and History, and Geography, and Foreign Language, and Philosophy, and so forth. To limit the education to an exclusive STEM focus is to produce a graduate every bit as narrow and blinkered - and as vulnerable to propaganda - as are today's Lefties.

The European model does that kind of focus, and while it produces very talented engineers, those engineers know nothing outside of their discipline. I've worked with them all my life. It is from the broader, more populist type of education that produces the individualism of Americans, our can-do-ism, an expertise in problem solving, and our willingness to take risks. We are losing that in this chronic STEM! STEM! STEM! focus, and it is to our severe detriment.

I see it happening all around, and I despair of it.

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at July 17, 2023 12:10 PM (K58O6)

311 63
'Justin Trudeau blames 'American right-wing' for Muslims opposing LGBTQ'

If I had any influence with Canadian muslims, I would tell them to throw Turdeau off a roof.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 17, 2023 12:10 PM (yvHe0)

312 NOOD Kamela

Posted by: Iris at July 17, 2023 12:11 PM (n3DL0)

313 305 Add Fordham University to the list of No SAT No Standards.
They just do what Columbia does, and think they're smart.
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They try to play football as well.

Posted by: Puddinhead at July 17, 2023 12:11 PM (2graF)

314 And sad to say, effective if the dopes screaming in the twattie comments were any indication.

Posted by: Boxx Culvert, 2023 pronouns: Shad/dap at July 17, 2023 12:09 PM (HACXu)

Just preaching to the choir. Those type ads don't change minds.

Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2023 12:11 PM (5e0cQ)

315 "298 I feel dirty even typing that.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop, pedant at July 17, 2023 11:59 AM (zZu0s)

Yes and I will feel even dirtier pointing out that the Asian gene is dominant so the kid looks Asian and that will be held against him in any in person interview.
Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2023 12:04 PM (5e0cQ)"

Any parent depending on a traditional degree path to success is delusional and out-of-the-loop unless the kid wants to literally be a neurosurgeon or something.

Spouse and I both make an obscene amount of money working in tech. Our degrees don't matter - any degrees are basically worthless for hiring in our field, and in adjacent fields. We know a bunch of different routes into cutting edge, high-paying jobs that are cool as shit and have nothing at all to do with higher-ed credentialism. It's not 1980 or 1990 anymore. Public HS is worthless and degrees don't impress anyone - you need to get the kids pointed in the right direction and support them learning on their own, with skillsets they can take anywhere. I would say it's never been as easy to learn, but now you need to add in "navigating censorship" a bit which throws in a wrench.

Posted by: somedood at July 17, 2023 12:16 PM (BW9UA)

316 Any idea where I could find such a room?
Posted by: Harvey Weinstein at July 17, 2023 11:16 AM (eOEVl)

Why am I asking you?

Posted by: Hedley Lamarr at July 17, 2023 12:24 PM (Zvtjl)

317 168
'Russia continues this.'

So, they educate children well in math. So why is their country so f___ed up?

Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 17, 2023 12:24 PM (yvHe0)

318 Here's a thought:
Harvard, and the other "elite's" training schools may be using diversity students as a fig leaf. Thr number of registered freshmen students is irrelevant in contrast to the makeup of the graduating classes. These.are the training grounds for tomorrow's "Mastersof the Universe ", or Klaus Shwabs government boys... what isthe ratio of first year registered vs graduated among minority vs "legacy" students?
Could be their fig leaf of choice to cover up some white, oldmoney privileges?

Posted by: Augusto Perez at July 17, 2023 02:17 PM (QEDky)

319 So universities should only be centers for STEM?

Posted by: Just asking at July 17, 2023 03:07 PM (zx8fd)

320 Lets s just turn U.C. Berkeley into Maximum Security Prison Walls Gates Armed Guards and with Obama Clinton(Bill)and Biden there with Soros and Bragg

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at July 17, 2023 04:21 PM (wGqjj)

321 Here is my solution to the cut-throat competition for high-school students to get into competitive colleges; since Harvard has only 1600 Freshmen allowed in September, they should make it 10,000 and just squeeze them into their dormrooms in the Yard and the upperclassmen Houses. Students are smaller these days.

Or just name all the colleges in the US "Harvard" or "Yale" and perhaps, like McDonalds and other franchises do with their cookie-cutter buildings, just recreate "Harvard Yards" on every campus with fine Georgian 1720-1880 brick buildings, recreate all the classroom buildings too (except for anything Harvard built after 1945....ugly brutalism hulks of concrete like their Science Center (built to represent an old-timey camera via funds from George Eastman), and recreate the Final Clubs so everyone can be a Porcellian, Owl, A.D., Fox, Spee, Delphic, Fly, Phoenix SPK member and wear tuxes all the time. Heck, the Mayo Clinic has satellite clinics in Jacksonville and Scottsdale, why not "Harvard"???

Posted by: Donovan Nuera at July 17, 2023 07:13 PM (LKMDZ)

322 Have every accredited college have a pre/post general knowledge test of 5000 questions to see which students are the smartest entering college and which students are smartest upon graduation. See also which school has the best improvement. Can break it down into majors as well. Extra credit points for making perfect plate of scrambled eggs, a complicated cocktail, tying a necktie, building a spice rack, setting up a VCR/entertainment system, grooming. Winners get cash prizes too. Also be able to ID different WWII aircraft by flashcards.

Posted by: Donovan Nuera at July 17, 2023 07:19 PM (LKMDZ)

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