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2 An 'aggressive sea otter' is scaring surfers and stealing their boards
Otter 841, a five-year-old female, has prompted police in Santa Cruz to issue a warning
Author of the article:Chris Knight; Published Jul 13, 2023
Santa Cruz Police released this image of Otter 841 in the act of commandeering a surfboard. PHOTO BY SANTA CRUZ POLICE

Police in Santa Cru, are warning surfers of an unusual threat in the waters of the California community. An “aggressive sea otter” is approaching, biting and scratching surfboards – and in some cases climbing aboard and making off with them.

A widely shared video shows one hapless surfer trying to fight off the creature, which hangs onto the board and at one point seems to rush the man, forcing him to let go. When the man flips the board, it briefly dislodges the animal, but moments later it’s back and chewing on the side of the board.

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at July 13, 2023 07:34 PM (krqg6)

3 That rock-around-the-clock dog really did make me smile!

Willowed (sorry): I found the AI commercial in the last post...interesting, to say the least. Check this one featuring Greta Thunberg.

https://tinyurl.com/mrverzkd

Posted by: Paco at July 13, 2023 07:35 PM (njExo)

4 Is that Rommel?

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 13, 2023 07:37 PM (ncXxy)

5 Ramen !!

I read your damn book !!

Posted by: REDACTED at July 13, 2023 07:37 PM (us2H3)

6 Rock around the clock doggie is adorable.

Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at July 13, 2023 07:37 PM (B6IZw)

7
Willowed (sorry): I found the AI commercial in the last post...interesting, to say the least. Check this one featuring Greta Thunberg.

As Ace said, they are nightmare fuel. It's the uncanny valley combined with shapeshifting demons.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 13, 2023 07:39 PM (eOEVl)

8 Good evening everyone

Posted by: Skip at July 13, 2023 07:39 PM (xhxe8)

9 >>>This is weird.

The weird part is none of them are falling out of the tree.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 13, 2023 07:40 PM (klJTj)

10 The adorable doggies are a welcome antidote to the horrific AI commercials. Thanks Ace!

Posted by: DJ at July 13, 2023 07:43 PM (uosPt)

11 The desert fox is one cute critter!

Posted by: gourmand du jour at July 13, 2023 07:43 PM (MeG8a)

12 Hula Hound is too funny, wonder how they taught him that?

Posted by: Skip at July 13, 2023 07:43 PM (xhxe8)

13 >>>Daddy horny.

The tricky part about getting intimate with a bear is stopping.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 13, 2023 07:43 PM (klJTj)

14 Pretty sure that desert fox is actually a leopard.

Posted by: eleven at July 13, 2023 07:44 PM (iziT8)

15 That second cat music video is strangely compelling.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 13, 2023 07:46 PM (ncXxy)

16 Happy-ish Thursday prevening…

Posted by: Adriane the Dystopian Critic . . . at July 13, 2023 07:46 PM (jonTH)

17 It's late in the day, so why not?
Guest at RFK Jr. Dinner Silences Climate Alarmist With a Single Fart

It was an epic smackdown, with trash talk along the lines of Dechert told Page Six the next day, “I apologize for using my flatulence as a medium of public commentary in your presence” and asked them to refer to him either as a “gallivanting boulevardier” or a “beer-fueled sex rocket.”.

https://tinyurl.com/42byhhzu

Posted by: Archimedes at July 13, 2023 07:47 PM (eOEVl)

18 "Panda Family tree"

Ah, no branches. That explains a lot.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at July 13, 2023 07:47 PM (ou9hh)

19 We have entered a new Epoch.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 13, 2023 07:48 PM (63Dwl)

20 "We have entered a new Epoch. "

AI generated cat videos?

Posted by: eleven at July 13, 2023 07:49 PM (iziT8)

21 ace, if you've never seen one, look up

sand cat

Posted by: Moron Robbie Figured Out That Long Covid Means the Shot at July 13, 2023 07:50 PM (O69GV)

22 SAG-AFTRA is going on strike at midnight, which will affect my life not at all.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at July 13, 2023 07:51 PM (sWM8x)

23 7. As Ace said, they are nightmare fuel. It's the uncanny valley combined with shapeshifting demons. - archimedes

Amen to that. In the video I linked, Trump's right arm is on his left side.

Posted by: Paco at July 13, 2023 07:52 PM (njExo)

24 I grew up on a horse farm too but I only walk like that when I am pimping. Which is pretty often if I'm being honest.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 13, 2023 07:52 PM (ZLI7S)

25 Funny, that young desert fox looks nothing like Erwin Rommel.

I have a red fox, and presumably her kits, denned up under an old oilfield skid shack at the bottom of my lot. Seen her several times. She is welcome to stay there as long as she wants.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 13, 2023 07:54 PM (J8pqV)

26 The Film Actors Guild is going on strike? Oh no! Anyway...

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 13, 2023 07:54 PM (u73oe)

27 Any of you penguin fans that haven't been getting enough lately, be advised that "The Penguin Pool Murder" will be shown on TCM Tuesday 7/18 at 8AM Eastern. Stars Edna May Oliver and James Gleason (1932). Set your recorder and enjoy. Four Stars from this reviewer!

Posted by: Penguin Pete at July 13, 2023 07:55 PM (T0tUU)

28 Girl and reflection has to be the best

Posted by: Skip at July 13, 2023 07:55 PM (xhxe8)

29 Fenec, fenec.fenec.fenec.fenec.fenec.fenec.fenec.

Truffle, truffle, Sand Truffle!

Fenec, fenec.fenec.fenec.fenec.fenec.fenec.fenec. . .

Posted by: Kindltot - Email me at the link here for information about the PNW MoMEE in August at July 13, 2023 07:56 PM (xhaym)

30 The writers and actors of Hollywood are striking at the absolute low point in the history of movie-making, and I'm here for that.

Let them eat cock.

Posted by: eleven at July 13, 2023 07:57 PM (iziT8)

31 The Film Actors Guild is going on strike? Oh no! Anyway...

--

repost from the other night, hopefully ace will see it. It's hilarious:

"I’m also a single mom on welfare, relying on three different part-time jobs to fund my screenwriting career. I’m $50,000 in debt (attended Cambridge - MR), and I share a bed with my 9-year-old in a one-bedroom apartment in Inglewood, California, because I can’t afford Los Angeles rent."

https://tinyurl.com/2ymeoqns

Posted by: Moron Robbie Figured Out That Long Covid Means the Shot at July 13, 2023 07:57 PM (O69GV)

32 Fenec, fenec.fenec.fenec.fenec.fenec.fenec.fenec. . .
Posted by: Kindltot - Email me at the link here for information about the PNW MoMEE in August at July 13, 2023 07:56 PM (xhaym)

Go to Fenectady. Town is full of them.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 13, 2023 07:58 PM (J8pqV)

33 Is that Rommel?
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 13, 2023 07:37 PM (ncXxy)

Rommel > Ike. As field commanders, let's be real.

Posted by: JmT at July 13, 2023 07:58 PM (YrfxG)

34 Good evening, horde.

That high-stepping cat cracks me up.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 13, 2023 07:58 PM (OX9vb)

35 Can someone esplain to me the Darwin Award vid?

Posted by: eleven at July 13, 2023 07:58 PM (iziT8)

36 The tricky part about getting intimate with a bear is stopping.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 13, 2023 07:43 PM

Assuming you want to.

Posted by: L. DiCaprio at July 13, 2023 07:58 PM (a3Q+t)

37 at this point, the only thing that makes sense out the Ukraine mess is widespread blackmail

Posted by: REDACTED at July 13, 2023 07:59 PM (us2H3)

38 auto tuned cat make Hulk laff

Posted by: DB - at July 13, 2023 07:59 PM (geLO8)

39 https://tinyurl.com/2ymeoqns
Posted by: Moron Robbie Figured Out That Long Covid Means the Shot at July 13, 2023 07:57 PM (O69GV)

But, I was told that if you just do what you love, the money will come!

*sob

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 13, 2023 07:59 PM (OX9vb)

40 I just saw Sound of Freedom

Please go, please donate and so whatever your heart says to you

God is watching

Posted by: Gonzotx at July 13, 2023 07:59 PM (MwHgU)

41 31. The Film Actors Guild is going on strike? - Moron Robbie etc.

Satan takes a holiday.

Posted by: Paco at July 13, 2023 08:00 PM (njExo)

42 We have seen probably hundreds of animals, domestic and wild imitate other animals or humans. Can't make me believe they are not intelligent or not having fun.

Posted by: Skip at July 13, 2023 08:02 PM (xhxe8)

43 I am listening to We Are Bob, on a recommendation here.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 13, 2023 08:02 PM (ybIRR)

44 https://youtu.be/y8kTYCex8RU

Sand Kittuh!!

Posted by: Puddleglum at July 13, 2023 08:03 PM (xSnmX)

45 To me Ukraine mess is the money sent to the billions and millions are being scraped off the top.

Posted by: Skip at July 13, 2023 08:04 PM (xhxe8)

46 That's a Tennessee Walking Cat. They are bred in old Kentucky, but they're just a crumb around here.

Posted by: Felix the Cat at July 13, 2023 08:04 PM (T0tUU)

47 Film actor strike?
Go head and take it to the man.

Posted by: Skip at July 13, 2023 08:05 PM (xhxe8)

48 Is that Rommel?
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 13, 2023 07:37 PM (ncXxy)

Rommel > Ike. As field commanders, let's be real.
Posted by: JmT at July 13, 2023 07:58 PM (YrfxG)

Well Ike is 2-0 versus Rommel (beat him in Tunisia and Normandy). Rommel had flair, and Brits just love Generals who thump them and don't win the war, but in the big picture all the Africa Korps did was provide training for both the US and UK armies in combat and they surrendered 250000 men to them in the end.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 13, 2023 08:06 PM (eoQWY)

49 Love the "Look I can jump to" video.
So cute.

Posted by: redridinghood at July 13, 2023 08:06 PM (NpAcC)

50 Didn't get to see most of the videos but a good bunch.
Everyone have a great evening

Posted by: Skip at July 13, 2023 08:06 PM (xhxe8)

51 A few Sea Otter heads on pikes will stop this foolishness in it's tracks.

Posted by: Surfin' Sam at July 13, 2023 08:08 PM (T0tUU)

52 Kevin Hart bowed out of the ESPYs in solidarity with the writers strike. Totally not because he knew he would have bombed out without the writers.

Posted by: JmT at July 13, 2023 08:08 PM (YrfxG)

53 at this point, the only thing that makes sense out the Ukraine mess is widespread blackmail
Posted by: REDACTED at July 13, 2023 07:59 PM (us2H3)

No, its typical doubling down and ass covering. See, the ruling faction thought Russia would be taken out by sanctions in weeks or months. When that didn't happen it was one desperate hope to turn it all around after another. It would be amusing if it weren't costing a lot of lives who didn't get a vote on it on both sides.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 13, 2023 08:09 PM (eoQWY)

54 The activation of the reserves is a bad sign.

Posted by: blaster at July 13, 2023 08:09 PM (pwExq)

55 Sherri, of Canterbury Cottage on YouTube, just did an episode where she used a Chat AI app, or whatever it's called, to help her re-do her foyer.
Comments were running 9 to 1 as "Nooooo! They're trying to replace humans!".

So, not so bad as the Breughel-esque ad, but still not good...

Posted by: sal: tolle adversarium et afflige inimicum at July 13, 2023 08:10 PM (jRqes)

56 That panda tree video has to be fake.

One of them is sitting on a tree branch that looks too small to hold the weight of the panda.

Posted by: redridinghood at July 13, 2023 08:12 PM (NpAcC)

57 The activation of the reserves is a bad sign.

Posted by: blaster at July 13, 2023 08:09 PM

It's only 3,000 reservists, it's not a big deal yet. It's most likely a crutch for the services to flesh out their critical active duty spots they need to fill due to $hitty recruiting numbers. If he signs one for 10,000 or more at one time then we have a problem.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 13, 2023 08:12 PM (ncXxy)

58 The activation of the reserves is a bad sign.
Posted by: blaster at July 13, 2023 08:09 PM (pwExq)

Just have them say they identify as female and they drum you right out.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 13, 2023 08:12 PM (eoQWY)

59 Ike wasn't a field commander.

Posted by: blaster at July 13, 2023 08:13 PM (pwExq)

60 Look how silky the fur on the one in the top pic is!

It's a semi-arid fox, at best.

Posted by: mikeski at July 13, 2023 08:14 PM (DgGvY)

61 The activation of the reserves is a bad sign.
Posted by: blaster

Yes, I am less than thrilled grandson graduates from MC bootcamp next week.

Posted by: Infidel at July 13, 2023 08:14 PM (0zJ6Q)

62 To help her re-do her foyer

If she kept a pet hen and chicks in the entrance hallway it's a chicken mother foyer.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko stuff at July 13, 2023 08:14 PM (a5NDH)

63 It's only 3,000 reservists, it's not a big deal yet. It's most likely a crutch for the services to flesh out their critical active duty spots they need to fill due to $hitty recruiting numbers. If he signs one for 10,000 or more at one time then we have a problem.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 13, 2023 08:12 PM (ncXxy)

Except for the part where they expressly said they did it for Operation Atlantic Resolve.

Posted by: blaster at July 13, 2023 08:15 PM (pwExq)

64 2nd pic up top, little dude is enrout to kick some a$$. I can hear his growl through the internet.

Posted by: BifBewalski at July 13, 2023 08:16 PM (3CCua)

65 Ike wasn't a field commander.
Posted by: blaster at July 13, 2023 08:13 PM (pwExq)

I'll allow it.

Even Kasserine Pass, where Rommel gave the front echelon a good thumping, was a failure for the Germans. See, after defeating them, he moved forward into a valley where our Tank Destroyer artillery was deployed on the far side ridge line and our regular guns were there too. They put out a blizzard of fire that pinned the Germans down stopped them cold. The Germans retreated away from even that green army and the rest was just a matter of time before the Germans surrendered there.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 13, 2023 08:17 PM (eoQWY)

66 Our cat used to show off his kills the way that dog is showing off her puppy.

Mom was often presented with not-yet-kills too.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 13, 2023 08:17 PM (RIvkX)

67 Except for the part where they expressly said they did it for Operation Atlantic Resolve.
Posted by: blaster at July 13, 2023 08:15 PM (pwExq)

Well, kids, if you don't want to go, just let the lieutenant hear you mis-gender Dylan Mulvaney. Instant discharge.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 13, 2023 08:18 PM (qON3L)

68 See, the ruling faction thought Russia would be taken out by sanctions in weeks or months. When that didn't happen it was one desperate hope to turn it all around after another. It would be amusing if it weren't costing a lot of lives who didn't get a vote on it on both sides.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 13, 2023 08:09 PM (eoQWY)

There it is. The arrant stupidity of people who do not pay attention to history.

Russia has a tradition of getting better as the war drags on. Why these knuckleheads don't understand that is beyond me.

And Ukraine is next door. What do they expect...that the United States is going to conduct a war 4,500 miles from our shores AFTER we have depleted our stocks of pretty much everything?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 13, 2023 08:19 PM (PHmov)

69 If they were serious they would transfer all the trans soldiers to the European theater.

Posted by: blaster at July 13, 2023 08:19 PM (pwExq)

70 Ike wasn't a field commander.
Posted by: blaster at July 13, 2023 08:13 PM (pwExq)

He was a master administrator of a vast army. The right man at the right time. Try to imagine him today heading the FBI under Biden.

Posted by: JmT at July 13, 2023 08:20 PM (YrfxG)

71 Foxy woxy

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 13, 2023 08:20 PM (vHIgi)

72 I wonder if desert fox is good eating?

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 13, 2023 08:21 PM (R/m4+)

73 Tim Ballard and the director of Sound of Freedom are on Tim Cast tonight.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 13, 2023 08:22 PM (up/3i)

74 Evening.

Fuck pandas.

That is all.

Posted by: Robert at July 13, 2023 08:23 PM (1Yy3c)

75 Russia has a tradition of getting better as the war drags on. Why these knuckleheads don't understand that is beyond me.

Well, except for the Crimean War, the Russo-Japanese War, WWI, Afghanistan, the Cold War, and many others.

https://tinyurl.com/3ehj9ye9

Posted by: Archimedes at July 13, 2023 08:23 PM (eOEVl)

76

HELL YA!

Posted by: Panda Fucker at July 13, 2023 08:24 PM (PhrCR)

77 @74

>>Fuck pandas.

Word!!!

--
Bamboo Trees Everywhere.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 13, 2023 08:24 PM (up/3i)

78 Cute animal poat. So on topic.

We put in a bird feeder to keep MegaRoy entertained, very successful. Blue Jays, Tit Mouse, Gold Finch, Sparrow, Wren, Downey Woodpecker, Yellow Bellied Woodpecker, House Finch, Chickadee, and Nut Hatch all are regulars. We now have a PeregrineFalcon feeder. He has just about eradicated the House Finch population, and I almost never see the Chickadees and Tit Mouse anymore. Beautiful raptor, lightning quick. Just a poof of feathers and then he's on a tree branch having a snack.

Posted by: BifBewalski at July 13, 2023 08:25 PM (3CCua)

79 wow, cool!
how can we help the "actors" (spit) and screen "writers" (spit)
stay on strike for ever and ever? WOOHOO!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - these lying liars have been lying for decades at July 13, 2023 08:25 PM (GGQV4)

80 Russia has a tradition of getting better as the war drags on. Why these knuckleheads don't understand that is beyond me.

And Ukraine is next door. What do they expect...that the United States is going to conduct a war 4,500 miles from our shores AFTER we have depleted our stocks of pretty much everything?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 13, 2023 08:19 PM (PHmov)

They are a serious country, unlike the US. They kept all the 'obsolete' stuff in warehouses like old style artillery. Yeah, its not precision, but you don't need precision to shell a small town or trench over weeks and months and bleed the guys there. You don't need a high class tank to back up the infantry in blasting a pillbox. Russia has been pulling out old T55s from storage because for a lot of jobs the 100 mm shell does the same work as a 120 mm shell in the modern tanks and there's enough for everyone to have fire support.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 13, 2023 08:25 PM (eoQWY)

81 I am listening to We Are Bob, on a recommendation here.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 13, 2023 08:02 PM

Solid choice.

Posted by: Bob from NSA at July 13, 2023 08:25 PM (a3Q+t)

82 wonder if desert fox is good eating?
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 13, 2023 08:21 PM (R/m4+)

Imagine it's gamy and dry. Not the best.

Posted by: JmT at July 13, 2023 08:26 PM (YrfxG)

83 I know Taylor Swift is a horde favorite
you guys aren't fooling anyone

anyway, here's the rundown on Swiftie merchandise while she's in Denver:

Hoodies – $75
Crewneck sweaters – $65
Cropped pullovers – $65
T-shirts – $45
Tour poster – $30
Blankets – $75
Phone case and inserts – $30
Tumbler – $35
Mugs – $20

Posted by: DB - at July 13, 2023 08:26 PM (geLO8)

84 He was a master administrator of a vast army. The right man at the right time.

True. His field generals (Alanbrook, Montgomery, Patton, and Bradley) viewed his field generalship with amused condescension, but recognized his real talent, which was running a huge, multinational effort to defeat Nazism. Even he came to recognize that he was not a battlefield general.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 13, 2023 08:27 PM (eOEVl)

85 In 1939 Ike was a LTC who was coaching the football team at Ft Benning. (Now Ft Moore)

Also if they change the name of the place you were born so they retcon your birth certificate?

Posted by: blaster at July 13, 2023 08:29 PM (pwExq)

86 @83

>>anyway, here's the rundown on Swiftie merchandise while she's in Denver:

I think the most expensive shirt I have is a Maiden T-shirt I got at MSG in 2009, I think it was 25 bucks.

So adjusted for inflation it's got to be close to 40.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 13, 2023 08:29 PM (up/3i)

87 They are a serious country, unlike the US. They kept all the 'obsolete' stuff in warehouses like old style artillery.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 13, 2023 08:25 PM (eoQWY)

You just f*cked yourself out of any advisory position in the Biden administration.

Who do you think you are...studying history and the psyche of Russia?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo...Biden Channeler at July 13, 2023 08:29 PM (PHmov)

88 Well, except for the Crimean War, the Russo-Japanese War, WWI, Afghanistan, the Cold War, and many others.

https://tinyurl.com/3ehj9ye9
Posted by: Archimedes at July 13, 2023 08:23 PM (eOEVl)

You left out the Mongols, Swedes, Napoleon and Hitler.

They even took Berlin from Frederick the Great when the Miracle of the House of Brandenberg happened and the Tsar died and his idiot son switched sides to save him. He was deposed soon after but that was enough for Prussia to survive.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 13, 2023 08:30 PM (eoQWY)

89 A young desert fox

----------

I want one.

Does it come with an RC Tank?

Posted by: ShainS -- Semiquincentennial or Bust! at July 13, 2023 08:30 PM (ul9wx)

90 Nothing but a dilettante about wars and warfare, but I think we have won a couple of wars by brute strength and war materials, not by generalship...

Posted by: tubal at July 13, 2023 08:30 PM (PCK5/)

91 7
Willowed (sorry): I found the AI commercial in the last post...interesting, to say the least. Check this one featuring Greta Thunberg.

As Ace said, they are nightmare fuel. It's the uncanny valley combined with shapeshifting demons.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 13, 2023 07:39 PM (eOEVl)

There is an interesting story on that on the tube of you channel, Haunted Cosmos. The episode is called the Watchers. (This is a Christian channel commenting on "paranormal" stuff. They are funny and pretty grounded in their theology - reform types, I think.). I had horrible nightmares after listening to that episode.

Posted by: Moki at July 13, 2023 08:31 PM (JrN/x)

92 I know Taylor Swift is a horde favorite
you guys aren't fooling anyone
===
Who? Wut?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 13, 2023 08:32 PM (RIvkX)

93 These kids today with their pricey merch-
in my day, after you scraped together enough money for the ZZTop tix and gas to get to the show, there wasn't a lot left

maybe enough to buy a soda at the arena

Posted by: DB - at July 13, 2023 08:32 PM (geLO8)

94 @90

>>Nothing but a dilettante about wars and warfare, but I think we have won a couple of wars by brute strength and war materials, not by generalship...

The US has not won a single war after WWII, we've been mucking about the world and then slinking off to lick our wounds until someone gets another bright idea on how to waste blood and treasure.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 13, 2023 08:33 PM (up/3i)

95 The T Swif merc sound like a bargain. Just saw some sweatpants that start north of a $100.

Posted by: JmT at July 13, 2023 08:33 PM (YrfxG)

96 anyway, here's the rundown on Swiftie merchandise while she's in Denver:

Hoodies – $75
Crewneck sweaters – $65
Cropped pullovers – $65
T-shirts – $45
Tour poster – $30
Blankets – $75
Phone case and inserts – $30
Tumbler – $35
Mugs – $20
Posted by: DB - at July 13, 2023 08:26 PM (geLO

Who on earth buys a Tay Tay blanket???? I get wanting a tour shirt, that's a typical concert memento, but a blanket?

Posted by: Moki at July 13, 2023 08:34 PM (JrN/x)

97 ICYMI

The Secret Service found marijuana twice in the White House in 2022, long before cocaine was located in the West Wing.

The Secret Service revealed the information to members of Congress during a classified briefing on the investigation into cocaine found in the West Wing

Posted by: DB - at July 13, 2023 08:34 PM (geLO8)

98 Kevin Hart bowed out of the ESPYs in solidarity with the writers strike. Totally not because he knew he would have bombed out without the writers.
Posted by: JmT

There's no "e" in "hart", which means there's no heart in he.

Posted by: SFGoth at July 13, 2023 08:36 PM (KAi1n)

99 The US has not won a single war after WWII, we've been mucking about the world and then slinking off to lick our wounds until someone gets another bright idea on how to waste blood and treasure.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 13, 2023 08:33 PM (up/3i)

we are just in the fledgling phase

pretty soon, you are going to see the light and the wonder of who we are

Posted by: Liberal Interventionism at July 13, 2023 08:36 PM (us2H3)

100

You would not believe how many used condoms we find! And that's just in the nursery!

Posted by: Secret Service Steve at July 13, 2023 08:36 PM (PhrCR)

101 @97

>>The Secret Service found marijuana twice in the White House in 2022, long before cocaine was located in the West Wing.

So the SS is admitting that people can get Anthrax and Polonium in to The White House and they would have no clue.

TOP. MEN.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 13, 2023 08:37 PM (up/3i)

102 Any word on the Biden tapes? #TwoWeeks?

Posted by: Montec at July 13, 2023 08:38 PM (4wMK0)

103 >Any word on the Biden tapes? #TwoWeeks?

Posted by: Montec

Old news
Moving on!

Posted by: DB - at July 13, 2023 08:39 PM (geLO8)

104 Any word on the Biden tapes? #TwoWeeks?
Posted by: Montec at July 13, 2023 08:38 PM (4wMK0)

I think desperate rumors of war is supposed to hide the fact that nothing is being done.

Posted by: Kindltot - Email me at the link here for information about the PNW MoMEE in August at July 13, 2023 08:39 PM (xhaym)

105 Nothing but a dilettante about wars and warfare, but I think we have won a couple of wars by brute strength and war materials, not by generalship...
Posted by: tubal at July 13, 2023 08:30 PM (PCK5/)

Being able to deploy your strength and materials IS generalship. Warfare isn't a sport, you don't get style points in real life.

Russia in WWII survived to win in the end, but they never had to solve the problem about how to even get their troops across oceans and continents to even get to the field. To the credit of the few officers we had pre-war, they DID think about the problems and were able to put a large army in Africa within a year and another one across the Pacific to the Solomons in the same time. While at the same time shipping a good portion of war material to Britain and Russia.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 13, 2023 08:39 PM (eoQWY)

106 Rommel > Ike. As field commanders, let's be real.
Posted by: JmT at July 13, 2023 07:58 PM (YrfxG)

Concur. Most American generals, outside of Patton, are 4 to 1 leather asses who would have blown their brains out faced with Rommel’s supply tether and would have made Marshal Graziani look like a tiger in comparison.

Rommel would have dusted Monty if he had 10% of what Ike worked with on a cloudy day.

But that’s history.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 13, 2023 08:39 PM (R/m4+)

107 Who on earth buys a Tay Tay blanket???? I get wanting a tour shirt, that's a typical concert memento, but a blanket?
Posted by: Moki at July 13, 2023 08:34 PM (JrN/x)

The only way I'd pay $45 for a Taylor Swift T-shirt is if it had Tay-tay's tiddies in it. still.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 13, 2023 08:40 PM (qON3L)

108 Jerry Rivers has left me totally crestfallen

Posted by: TUCA at July 13, 2023 08:40 PM (us2H3)

109 The US has not won a single war after WWII, we've been mucking about the world and then slinking off to lick our wounds until someone gets another bright idea on how to waste blood and treasure.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 13, 2023 08:33 PM (up/3i)

I'll give us a tie in Korea.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 13, 2023 08:40 PM (eoQWY)

110 It's rumored she had her bubbies enhanced

Posted by: DB - at July 13, 2023 08:41 PM (geLO8)

111 It's rumored she had her bubbies enhanced
Posted by: DB - at July 13, 2023 08:41 PM (geLO

Well, 45 bucks for a hands-on verification session is not unreasonable.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 13, 2023 08:42 PM (qON3L)

112 the thing is, the cold war never ended

we just declared victory

Posted by: REDACTED at July 13, 2023 08:42 PM (us2H3)

113 "Russia has been pulling out old T55s from storage"

You get a free tank, and you get a free tank, and you get a free tank....

Posted by: Vladimir Winfrey at July 13, 2023 08:43 PM (KAi1n)

114 Was always struck by that great scene in the film "Patton" -- where he (the great George C. Scott) has his driver stop in an ancient open field -- and he says to Omar Bradley (the great Karl Malden):

“It was here. The battlefield was here. The Carthaginians defending the city were attacked by three Roman Legions. Carthaginians were proud and brave, but they couldn’t hold. They were massacred. Arab women stripped them of their tunics and their swords and lances. The soldiers lay naked in the sun, two thousand years ago, and I was here.”

Posted by: ShainS -- Semiquincentennial or Bust! at July 13, 2023 08:43 PM (ul9wx)

115 the thing is, the cold war never ended

we just declared victory
Posted by: REDACTED at July 13, 2023 08:42 PM (us2H3)

The Commies left Moscow, and took over DC. And Ottawa, and London, and Berlin, and Paris...

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 13, 2023 08:43 PM (qON3L)

116 Sound of Freedom is the number 1 movie in America.

I have a feeling Chapek was fired by disney because he allowed the movie to get out of Disney and onto the big screen.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 13, 2023 08:43 PM (jOyNv)

117 110 It's rumored she had her bubbies enhanced
Posted by: DB - at July 13, 2023 08:41 PM (geLO

just a wild guess but you are not Jewish, right ?

Posted by: REDACTED at July 13, 2023 08:44 PM (us2H3)

118 As loyal patrons of the Café, we have been told many times that sea otters are kind, loving, and adorable creatures who often 'hold hands' while sleeping.

Therefore, the reports of untoward, even aggressive, behavior of certain sea otters are concerning.

The conclusion is clear. Big Penguin, acting through their wholly-owned subsidiaries G. Soros and the WEF, is subverting this population of sea otters to the detriment of the Banana Slug surfing community.

Keep your head on a swivel. The perfidiousness of Big Penguin never sleeps!

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 13, 2023 08:44 PM (a3Q+t)

119 "Russia has been pulling out old T55s from storage"

You get a free tank, and you get a free tank, and you get a free tank....

Posted by: Vladimir Winfrey at July 13, 2023 08:43 PM (KAi1n)

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If Zelenskyy hadn't cancelled elections, he could run on the motto:

"A cluster bomb in every piss pot!"

Posted by: ShainS -- Semiquincentennial or Bust! at July 13, 2023 08:46 PM (ul9wx)

120 >>just a wild guess but you are not Jewish, right ?

Posted by: REDACTED

No, but I'm willing to learn

Posted by: DB - at July 13, 2023 08:46 PM (geLO8)

121 Keep your head on a swivel. The perfidiousness of Big Penguin never sleeps!
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 13, 2023 08:44 PM (a3Q+t)

Can I interest you in a Linux download? (opens coat with flipper)

Posted by: Big Penguin at July 13, 2023 08:46 PM (qON3L)

122 The last thing to fail on old tanks is the turret mechanism, hand cranked, and the gun. The Soviets took a lot of tanks, buried them up to the turret, and instant pillbox. I think the Albanians and some Warsaw pact members also did this.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 13, 2023 08:46 PM (rLD7a)

123 Rommel would have dusted Monty if he had 10% of what Ike worked with on a cloudy day.

But that’s history.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 13, 2023 08:39 PM (R/m4+)

That's the entire issue. He could NEVER have 10 percent of what Ike had. Because even though the Germans had plenty of panzer divisions cooling their heels in Poland in 1941 before Barbarossa, the Germans and Italians couldn't supply what they had, so Rommel had to go idle and wait for resupply, water, more tanks. Meanwhile, the US re-armed 8th army shipping tanks AROUND Africa or even sliding a convoy right past Rommel through the Med. Germans never were serious about logistics. There was no sense in Germany going into Africa in the first place given the constraints they put on themselves.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 13, 2023 08:47 PM (eoQWY)

124 Keep your head on a swivel. The perfidiousness of Big Penguin never sleeps!

Pfffffttt.

Posted by: Big Panda at July 13, 2023 08:48 PM (eOEVl)

125 The conclusion is clear. Big Penguin, acting through their wholly-owned subsidiaries G. Soros and the WEF, is subverting this population of sea otters to the detriment of the Banana Slug surfing community.

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Alternate Headline: "Pittsburgh Declares War on Santa Cruz!"

Posted by: ShainS -- Semiquincentennial or Bust! at July 13, 2023 08:48 PM (ul9wx)

126 The last thing to fail on old tanks is the turret mechanism, hand cranked, and the gun. The Soviets took a lot of tanks, buried them up to the turret, and instant pillbox. I think the Albanians and some Warsaw pact members also did this.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 13, 2023 08:46 PM (rLD7a)

Think someone did that with a pair of battleship turrets too.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 13, 2023 08:48 PM (eoQWY)

127
"Today, I chase rats in the Kasserine. But one day, much larger game."

Posted by: Young Desert Fox at July 13, 2023 08:49 PM (oINRc)

128 Kit fox kit owns the kawaii for today.

Posted by: exdem13 at July 13, 2023 08:50 PM (W+kMI)

129 So, I got this in the mail: "Consent, Indemnity and Release" declaration. I am supposed to sign and return it to close out the estate of an old friend, who bequeathed me 5000 dollars, which had me flabbergasted, and which I received last year.

Further reading of this 14-page doc, I am one of a group who are bequeathed a share of the residue of the estate. Holy shit! I have another $8000+ coming to me. Did not have that on my Bingo card.

Posted by: Big Penguin at July 13, 2023 08:51 PM (qON3L)

130 off, piscaphagic sock

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 13, 2023 08:52 PM (qON3L)

131 Further reading of this 14-page doc, I am one of a group who are bequeathed a share of the residue of the estate. Holy shit! I have another $8000+ coming to me. Did not have that on my Bingo card.
Posted by: Big Penguin at July 13, 2023 08:51 PM (qON3L)

Oh no, not to Big Penguin!!

seriously, gratz.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 13, 2023 08:52 PM (eoQWY)

132 Further reading of this 14-page doc, I am one of a group who are bequeathed a share of the residue of the estate. Holy shit! I have another $8000+ coming to me. Did not have that on my Bingo card.

Posted by: Big Penguin

$13k will buy a lot of herring.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 13, 2023 08:53 PM (eOEVl)

133 O happy penguin!
& an' din' even need to buy a lottery ticket!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - these lying liars have been lying for decades at July 13, 2023 08:53 PM (GGQV4)

134 $13k will buy a lot of herring.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 13, 2023 08:53 PM (eOEVl)

Eh? I am hard of herring.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 13, 2023 08:53 PM (qON3L)

135
Penguins play bingo
huh

Posted by: DB - at July 13, 2023 08:54 PM (geLO8)

136 Didn't some guys get in trouble during Desert Storm or one of the dust ups there for having pictures of Rommel in their Bradleys and Abrams ? Somebody screaming Nazi or something.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 13, 2023 08:54 PM (rLD7a)

137 Penguins play bingo
huh
Posted by: DB - at July 13, 2023 08:54 PM (geLO

Well, Jenga is right out.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 13, 2023 08:54 PM (qON3L)

138 Real old penguins in sandals and socks playing Keno.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 13, 2023 08:55 PM (rLD7a)

139 Jerry Rivers forgives Al Capone but is holding a grudge with Tuca

Posted by: REDACTED at July 13, 2023 08:56 PM (us2H3)

140
The last thing to fail on old tanks is the turret mechanism, hand cranked, and the gun. The Soviets took a lot of tanks, buried them up to the turret, and instant pillbox. I think the Albanians and some Warsaw pact members also did this.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 13, 2023 08:46 PM (rLD7a)

The Syrians buried old Nazi and Soviet armor on the Golan Heights to use as pillboxes.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 13, 2023 08:56 PM (oINRc)

141 Best. Summer. Ever.

https://tinyurl.com/cha7jbh4

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at July 13, 2023 08:57 PM (FVME7)

142 Rommel was a German; not so much a Nazi

IMO YMMV

Posted by: DB - at July 13, 2023 08:57 PM (geLO8)

143 123 Germans never were serious about logistics. There was no sense in Germany going into Africa in the first place given the constraints they put on themselves.
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Axis nations NEVER developed logistics to even half the effort that the Big Three Allies put into it. Even Imperial Japan, who really should have known better. UK and USA had to maintain overseas trade and territories, so they already knew how to plan for moving men and material great distances, and got better at it. yes, Germany had no business going to North Africa, but Axis politics necessitated pulling Mussolini out of the Lybian and Somalian holes his 1940 offenses fell into.

Posted by: exdem13 at July 13, 2023 08:57 PM (W+kMI)

144 Consider these things: 1) no air war with Britain (Germany saves 1700 aircraft, mostly bombers (which can also be used as tactical transport), and many trained flight crew); 2) Hitler goes to even a modicum of wartime production in 1940 rather than 1943; and 3) the 50mm/L60 gun put on the panzer III and the 75mm/L46 put on the panzer IV from the start, WW2 may have ended up with Germany getting nuked too. The Sovs got lucky and that doesn't even consider our materiale aid.

Posted by: SFGoth at July 13, 2023 08:57 PM (KAi1n)

145 The best part about the trotting cat video is that it mimicked a specific trotting gait used by certain saddle horses. Also liked how it slowed down to normal cat pace after being observed.

Posted by: exdem13 at July 13, 2023 08:58 PM (W+kMI)

146 There was no sense in Germany going into Africa in the first place given the constraints they put on themselves.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 13, 2023 08:47 PM (eoQWY)

Your are correct that modern warfare is beans and then bullets, which the Allies dominated.
Germany was at a disadvantage and was going to lose after 1942, with a 3.5 to 1 advantage to the Allies.

And it still was almost an end run by 1944-1945 due to Germany’s officers and enlisted men doing the most with less.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 13, 2023 08:59 PM (R/m4+)

147 Didn't some guys get in trouble during Desert Storm or one of the dust ups there for having pictures of Rommel in their Bradleys and Abrams ? Somebody screaming Nazi or something.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 13, 2023 08:54 PM (rLD7a)

I think I remember that. I remember being a bit worried at this not because Rommel was a Nazi but because of the flaws in R's overall military game.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 13, 2023 08:59 PM (eoQWY)

148 144 Material aid to the Soviets. They loved artillery, had plenty of guns after getting production up, but no way to move them. 100,000 Studebaker trucks may have saved their asses. And Spam.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 13, 2023 09:01 PM (rLD7a)

149 Germans never were serious about logistics. There was no sense in Germany going into Africa in the first place given the constraints they put on themselves.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 13, 2023 08:47 PM (eoQWY)

Hitler never understood resources. Should have paused after France. Control of western Europe; a bargaining chip. Taking on the two most resource rich nations; suicide.

Posted by: JmT at July 13, 2023 09:01 PM (YrfxG)

150 Even Imperial Japan, who really should have known better.
Posted by: exdem13

One of the more stupid things in The Man In The High Castle was the idea that imperial Japan had the manpower to occupy the US westcoast. Occupy Manchuria, Korea, the Philippines, SE Asia AND the westcoast???

Nippon, please.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 13, 2023 09:04 PM (jzzG8)

151 "even though the Germans had plenty of panzer divisions cooling their heels in Poland in 1941 before Barbarossa"

Actually, they really didn't. Because of panzer underproduction, the # of panzer divisions was increased by reducing the number of panzer regiments from 2/division to 1/division. This was generally augmented by additional motorized infantry, but that's mostly infantry in trucks with maybe some machine guns mounted. (In East Africa, they call those "technicals".) Also, per my earlier comment, the panzers were severely undergunned. Interestingly, Herman Hoth (Col. General commanding Panzer Group 3 in Barbarossa) said that Hitler actually wanted a more powerful gun on the panzers but his industrialist sycophants undercut him. Not that I wish they hadn't....

Posted by: SFGoth at July 13, 2023 09:04 PM (KAi1n)

152 Penguins of every variety have never attacked surfers, surfboards, boogie boards, skimboards, rafts, kayakers or swimmers. So, don't accuse them of nothin', 'cuz they will do it!

Posted by: Penguin Defense Fund 501c3 at July 13, 2023 09:04 PM (T0tUU)

153 Germans never were serious about logistics. There was no sense in Germany going into Africa in the first place given the constraints they put on themselves.

And yet, had they broken through at El Alamein, they'd probably have taken the Suez Canal and the oil lines from the Mideast.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 13, 2023 09:05 PM (eOEVl)

154
Yes, production and supply chain were the key limiting factor in the expansion of the Third Reich, and a two-front war with USA/USSR involved was suicidal folly.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 13, 2023 09:06 PM (oINRc)

155 100,000 Studebaker trucks may have saved their asses. And Spam.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 13, 2023 09:01 PM (rLD7a)

Stalin was never much on gratitude, but he had made a huge photo album of Studebaker trucks at war on the Eastern Front, and gifted it to the Studebaker Corporation. The US6 truck was the only platform they had that could tote the Katyusha rocket launcher.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 13, 2023 09:06 PM (qON3L)

156 The Germans also encouraged competition in industry while on a war footing rather than settling on one good design and giving everybody a contract. Worse than that, they were always looking for the best of the best rather than something adequate that could be turned out in huge numbers (see M4 Sherman, P40 series aircraft).

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 13, 2023 09:07 PM (rLD7a)

157 I forgot to mention the Greek hole of 1940 that Mussolini also lost an army into, requiring Wehrmacht lifeline to escape. The Balkans Campaign of Spring 1941 delayed Barbarossa by six crucial weeks, weather wise, in order to help Mussolini out, and left the Third Reich saddled with Greece and Yugoslavia, two turbulent conquests which required abundant force needed elsewhere to keep subdued. The Italians did their best to keep Rommel and their own army supplied, but since Hitler couldn't be bothered to allocate resources to neutralize Gibraltar and Malta, they had a hot time of it, and never could deliver enough for a decisive strike. El Alamein & Operation Torch shoved Allied logistical and strategic supremacy into Rommel's face.

Posted by: exdem13 at July 13, 2023 09:07 PM (W+kMI)

158 The Sovs got lucky and that doesn't even consider our materiale aid.
Posted by: SFGoth at July 13, 2023 08:57 PM (KAi1n)

Sovs had plenty of bad luck, but had been intelligent enough to have a serious industrial program backing up their military, training from Germany in armor, and production lines and a tank design from America that would let them outproduce Germany if they held out long enough to survive the first rush. Their moving entire factories east ahead of the Panzers was something no other country even thought of, and they did it. And then they were smart enough to put the Commie ideology aside and fight for Russia for the duration.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 13, 2023 09:07 PM (eoQWY)

159 Axis nations NEVER developed logistics to even half the effort that the Big Three Allies put into it. Even Imperial Japan, who really should have known better. UK and USA had to maintain overseas trade and territories, so they already knew how to plan for moving men and material great distances, and got better at it. yes, Germany had no business going to North Africa, but Axis politics necessitated pulling Mussolini out of the Lybian and Somalian holes his 1940 offenses fell into.
Posted by: exdem13 at July 13, 2023 08:57 PM (W+kMI)
***

Met an old German general who was a friend of a friend of mine. Near Bad Tolz in Bavaria. Interesting guy. He was in charge of running the trains for the war effort...he had a counterpart who ran the trains for the Jews. My friend wrote his thesis on how they managed this given bombing, blown bridges, etc. Fascinating discussion. Short answer...they argued a lot and he knew the war was lost by mid-43. The logistics just werent there, nor the rail system to support the troops on two fronts.
And...he bought the bier!

Posted by: Diogenes at July 13, 2023 09:07 PM (e4fEA)

160 BTW how did the sk8er boy's mutt learn how to ride a board? I couldn't get our family dog to ride a sled or toboggan, much less a skateboard.

Posted by: exdem13 at July 13, 2023 09:08 PM (W+kMI)

161 12 Hula Hound is too funny, wonder how they taught him that?

He actually practiced on my leg. He was always a natural.
Never had one of those big hoop things though.

Posted by: Gunslinger at July 13, 2023 09:08 PM (nOht1)

162 what's up ? anything good happen today ?

Posted by: runner at July 13, 2023 09:09 PM (V13WU)

163 >>> 2 An 'aggressive sea otter' is scaring surfers and stealing their boards
Otter 841, a five-year-old female, has prompted police in Santa Cruz to issue a warning
Author of the article:Chris Knight; Published Jul 13, 2023
Santa Cruz Police released this image of Otter 841 in the act of commandeering a surfboard. PHOTO BY SANTA CRUZ POLICE

Police in Santa Cru, are warning surfers of an unusual threat in the waters of the California community. An “aggressive sea otter” is approaching, biting and scratching surfboards – and in some cases climbing aboard and making off with them.

A widely shared video shows one hapless surfer trying to fight off the creature, which hangs onto the board and at one point seems to rush the man, forcing him to let go. When the man flips the board, it briefly dislodges the animal, but moments later it’s back and chewing on the side of the board.
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at July 13, 2023 07:34 PM (krqg6)

Otter! Stop it, otter! That's not food, otter!

Posted by: Surfboard Karen at July 13, 2023 09:10 PM (llON8)

164 I don't think there's a any doubt the Germans man for man were the best at war. Hitler was a fvinging idiot thankfully.

Posted by: JmT at July 13, 2023 09:12 PM (YrfxG)

165 A widely shared video shows one hapless surfer trying to fight off the creature, which hangs onto the board and at one point seems to rush the man, forcing him to let go. When the man flips the board, it briefly dislodges the animal, but moments later it’s back and chewing on the side of the board.
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at July 13, 2023 07:34 PM (krqg6)

All he had to do was roll over on his back, pretend he was asleep, and hold out his hand.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 13, 2023 09:12 PM (e4fEA)

166 And then they were smart enough to put the Commie ideology aside and fight for Russia for the duration.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 13, 2023 09:07 PM (eoQWY)

I remember reading somewhere that the Soviet mobilization plan was the best of the best. Once war started, they had 2 divisions in the rear on paper to train then field for the exact same division on the front. So the Germans started to complain after destroying say the 301 rifle division that in a few weeks another 301 rifle division popped up on their intel. How can this be?

Oh, it be!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 13, 2023 09:12 PM (R/m4+)

167 Rommel was a German; not so much a Nazi

IMO YMMV
Posted by: DB

He was a party member. He grew less fond of Big Adolph as the war started going badly and as Big Adolph became more and more of a micro manager. He was not part of the assassination attempt even though Big Adolph had him killed for it.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at July 13, 2023 09:13 PM (FVME7)

168 bill in Arkansas @ 136- Rommel pictures in Desert Storm.
We had Confederate battle flags on flight deck jackets back in the 60s.

Posted by: Eromero at July 13, 2023 09:14 PM (Uv0D2)

169 I forgot to mention the Greek hole of 1940 that Mussolini also lost an army into, requiring Wehrmacht lifeline to escape. The Balkans Campaign of Spring 1941 delayed Barbarossa by six crucial weeks, weather wise, in order to help Mussolini out, and left the Third Reich saddled with Greece and Yugoslavia, two turbulent conquests which required abundant force needed elsewhere to keep subdued.

Posted by: exdem13 at July 13, 2023 09:07 PM (W+kMI)

Six weeks is an exaggeration put out by the woulda-coulda-shoulda historian crowd. A few weeks, perhaps, but spring was late in 1941. The extra hundreds of miles of wear and tear on the units deployed into the Balkans, now that was a dead loss on the books. It also got the airborne corps of Germany massacred so much Hitler never risked using them again.

Britain meddling in the Balkans and Greece was no threat to Germany in a practical sense, a fire brigade force would be enough to cover that. Making the Italians embarrassment good is no reason to do anything, good or bad.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 13, 2023 09:14 PM (eoQWY)

170 bill in Arkansas @ 136- Rommel pictures in Desert Storm.
We had Confederate battle flags on flight deck jackets back in the 60s.
Posted by: Eromero at July 13, 2023 09:14 PM (Uv0D2)

There was an entire air unit that played at being the 1st Confederate Squadron as a joke until brass squashed it down.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 13, 2023 09:15 PM (eoQWY)

171 any of you reservists ? ready to "augment" Uke army ?

Posted by: runner at July 13, 2023 09:15 PM (V13WU)

172 One of those surfers had a rainbow surfboard. The otter was just trying to give him what he was asking for.

Surfers have been warned. Men hunted sea otters to near extinction, killing over 300,000 of them in the early 1900s. Humans have it coming.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 13, 2023 09:16 PM (U2p+3)

173 And Spam.
Posted by: bill in arkansas

1941-1942, Soviet units were often sent into combat with no food. During the winter of 1941-1942, units would attempt to attack the Demyansk Salient (16th Army, AG North) marching for several days through frozen swamps with no food. Take it from the Germans when you win. They didn't win.

Hitler never understood resources. Should have paused after France.
Posted by: JmT

He did. Originally, he wanted to attack Russia that Fall, much like he wanted to attack France the prior Fall. Got talked out of it. Time was not in Germany's favor. Germany had to attack in 1941. Problem is, unlike playing Hearts of Iron III, they didn't maximize their production and war footing to do so.

Posted by: SFGoth at July 13, 2023 09:17 PM (KAi1n)

174
g'early evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at July 13, 2023 09:17 PM (ENBF0)

175 168 I was manning a roadblock in 'Nam and a jeep rolled up. It had a Warren G. Harding HS sticker on the windshield (go Panthers). Good thing it wasn't a Cincy Moeller or it would have been lit up. Ohio HS football, serious as Texas HS football.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 13, 2023 09:18 PM (rLD7a)

176 The Secret Service found marijuana twice in the White House in 2022, long before cocaine was located in the West Wing.

This whole drug thing in the WH is so stupid and such a distraction, but when the average IQ is 100, what do I expect?

In VIP protection, you don't care what the VIP does, you don't care if the VIP is dealing drugs or is servicing a contract killing, your job is to protect the VIP from physical harm, not from political or social harm.

It is guaranteed damn certainty that SS was present when Hunter picks up his cocaine. They might even send an agent out to get the pharmaceutical grade cocaine in order to protect the VIP from fentanyl lacing.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at July 13, 2023 09:19 PM (p8A+W)

177 153 Germans never were serious about logistics. There was no sense in Germany going into Africa in the first place given the constraints they put on themselves.

And yet, had they broken through at El Alamein, they'd probably have taken the Suez Canal and the oil lines from the Mideast.
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Rommel was sure of it, and so were his subordinates who survived to write their memoirs later. I've read some hypothetical studies of it, and some dramatized "what if" scenarios. the thing is though, just about all of those depend on a few factors to work.
1. Hitler approves enough men and material diverted from the East Front to give Rommel and the Italians legs. (Two-thirds of the Axis ground forces in Africa were Italian; Rommel couldn't have won without them.)
2. Malta, the Royal Navy, and the Royal Desert Air Force somehow get nerfed out of being useful.
3. The Eighth Army and other Allied ground units pull a 1940 France style collapse, and fail to defend Egypt properly.
4. the Eighth Army's upgrades and resupply delivered via Lend-Lease don't have an impact on the ground fighting.

Posted by: exdem13 at July 13, 2023 09:19 PM (W+kMI)

178 Sean Davis
@seanmdav
Nothing to see here. Just Biden calling up the reserves in preparation for World War 3 against Russia over a tinpot puppet kleptocrat in Eastern Europe.

-
Speaking of putting bombs in briefcases . . .

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at July 13, 2023 09:19 PM (FVME7)

179 Jessica Tandy played Rommel's wife in "The Desert Fox"

great actress married to a one eyed man

Posted by: REDACTED at July 13, 2023 09:19 PM (us2H3)

180 >>> 172 One of those surfers had a rainbow surfboard. The otter was just trying to give him what he was asking for.

Surfers have been warned. Men hunted sea otters to near extinction, killing over 300,000 of them in the early 1900s. Humans have it coming.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 13, 2023 09:16 PM (U2p+3)

This sounds like the opening narration to a cheesy movie.

ATTACK! of the Surprise Surfing Otters

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 13, 2023 09:20 PM (llON8)

181 We had Confederate battle flags on flight deck jackets back in the 60s.
Posted by: Eromero

Still have them in my county on Memorial Day. There are roughly equal numbers of men KIA from both the CSA and the USA in my area.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 13, 2023 09:20 PM (OjHyA)

182 I remember reading somewhere that the Soviet mobilization plan was the best of the best. Once war started, they had 2 divisions in the rear on paper to train then field for the exact same division on the front. So the Germans started to complain after destroying say the 301 rifle division that in a few weeks another 301 rifle division popped up on their intel. How can this be?

Oh, it be!
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 13, 2023 09:12 PM (R/m4+)

Viktor Suvarov, a defector, wrote a good book or two on inner workings of life in the USSR and the army, often very funny.

What the Russians did was when a unit got near to the end of its training, it would split in half. The colonel and half the officers and men would head out, the rest would get reinforced and train again for their new jobs. The unit heading for the front would also get reinforced, and recruits would quickly learn from their fellows. The unit in reserve would train up its new officers and men to work together....and would split again when they were ready.

Sure the unit was weaker heading to the front, but at the crisis a weak unit is better than no unit at all.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 13, 2023 09:20 PM (eoQWY)

183 Good evening! Fennec Foxes are cute little guys!

Posted by: Piper at July 13, 2023 09:21 PM (ZdaMQ)

184 >> Rommel was a German; not so much a Nazi

IMO YMMV
Posted by: DB

He was a party member.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

His Wiki bio says not
FWIW, I'm no historian

Posted by: DB - at July 13, 2023 09:21 PM (geLO8)

185 I forgot to mention the Greek hole of 1940

It quickly turned around to become a bonus in the end.

Posted by: That guy who always says... at July 13, 2023 09:21 PM (Xrfse)

186 Helena! How's bluebell the hen?

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 13, 2023 09:22 PM (U2p+3)

187 57 The activation of the reserves is a bad sign

Or a combination of bad vax reactions, lack of recruits for the Woke Military, and people deciding to pull the plug at a higher rate forcing them to quest around trying to find enough people to keep the lights on. Its not like the media is going to tell US any truth, we just have to read between the lines and speculate

Posted by: azjaeger at July 13, 2023 09:23 PM (3/XaG)

188 I was manning a roadblock in 'Nam and a jeep rolled up. It had a Warren G. Harding HS sticker on the windshield (go Panthers). Good thing it wasn't a Cincy Moeller or it would have been lit up. Ohio HS football, serious as Texas HS football.
Posted by: bill in arkansas

Canton McKinley Bulldogs vs. Massilion Tigers is a death match every year.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 13, 2023 09:23 PM (OjHyA)

189 Evening All.

Just cruising the posts mostly...

Posted by: Nightwatch at July 13, 2023 09:23 PM (UsQA1)

190 Really good 13 min video from Rufo about transgenderism:
https://tinyurl.com/mrxt6e93

Posted by: Can't Make gp's Shimmy Shake On Tea at July 13, 2023 09:23 PM (MvF+J)

191 >>> 186 Helena! How's bluebell the hen?
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 13, 2023 09:22 PM (U2p+3)

Bluebell is doing well. In fact I will be letting the chickens roam soon before it gets too dark out, since this is a good time for cricket hunting.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 13, 2023 09:24 PM (llON8)

192 Britain meddling in the Balkans and Greece was no threat to Germany in a practical sense, a fire brigade force would be enough to cover that.
Posted by: Oldcat

A fire brigade is going to hold the Balkans (Yugoslavia had overthrown its pro-Germany king or whatever he was) and Greece without actually having evicted the British who were in Greece? Regardless, the prior winter had been a heavy one and rivers in Eastern Europe had very high water levels until late. Plus, the tanks that got warn down in SE Europe were mostly PZ IIs and early model IIIs. Not very useful against Russia. Not to mention going into Yugo and Greece provided a lot of training -- not everyone who went into Russia had fought in France/Holland/Belgium.

Posted by: SFGoth at July 13, 2023 09:24 PM (KAi1n)

193 Hitler never understood resources.

-
Good free movie on YouTube. Maybe a bit grim. Idealistic young lieutenant goes to Stalingrad to save civilization from the Bolsheviks. In German with subtitles.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VnJJQxZ0hu8&t=4417s

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at July 13, 2023 09:25 PM (FVME7)

194 Back in the late 70's, George Patton Jr was the deputy commander of VII Corps in Stuttgart. A local German government guy, and later mayor of Stuttgart was Rommel's son. They became good friends.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 13, 2023 09:26 PM (e4fEA)

195 And yet, had they broken through at El Alamein, they'd probably have taken the Suez Canal and the oil lines from the Mideast.
===========
Rommel was sure of it, and so were his subordinates who survived to write their memoirs later. I've read some hypothetical studies of it, and some dramatized "what if" scenarios. the thing is though, just about all of those depend on a few factors to work.

Posted by: exdem13 at July 13, 2023 09:19 PM (W+kMI)

He didn't even have equipment to cross the Suez Canal. There was a Royal Navy base at Alexandria. Cairo is a major city. He couldn't take any of them.

When Rommel was stopped the first time at Alamein, he had 14 tanks working. By the second battle, he really had no chance doing a frontal attack on ridges with dug in infantry when he couldn't get the Brits to disperse their armor and be outflanked. By Monty's Battle in November, well the Germans called it "Battle Without Hope" because their wasn't any.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 13, 2023 09:26 PM (eoQWY)

196 Time was not in Germany's favor. Germany had to attack in 1941. Problem is, unlike playing Hearts of Iron III, they didn't maximize their production and war footing to do so.
Posted by: SFGoth at July 13, 2023 09:17 PM (KAi1n)

Wrong. If Hitler had paused after France imagine the the big 4 summits that would have ensued. Frankie lording it over Winston with uncle Joe and Dolf.

Posted by: JmT at July 13, 2023 09:28 PM (YrfxG)

197 From what I have read Rommel wasn't interested in much besides his career and military stuff. He was enthusiastic about Hitler and knew him enough that it helped him get promoted faster than he would have been. Later he soured on Hitler once he realized Hitler's decisions were going to lead Germany to defeat. He was forced to commit suicide mostly because the plotters approached him to play a large role post coup because he was famous, and although he didn't commit he also didn't tell anyone about the plotters.

Posted by: azjaeger at July 13, 2023 09:28 PM (3/XaG)

198 Further reading of this 14-page doc, I am one of a group who are bequeathed a share of the residue of the estate. Holy shit! I have another $8000+ coming to me. Did not have that on my Bingo card.
Posted by: Big Penguin at July 13, 2023 08:51 PM (qON3L)

Do you have to wire $2500 first to secure it?

Posted by: blaster at July 13, 2023 09:28 PM (pwExq)

199 the guy @ 185-
I saw what you did there.

Posted by: Eromero at July 13, 2023 09:29 PM (Uv0D2)

200 Do you have to wire $2500 first to secure it?
Posted by: blaster at July 13, 2023 09:28 PM (pwExq)

Heh! No. But the release form I must sign has my address wrong. I e-mailed the chickie at the law firm.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 13, 2023 09:30 PM (qON3L)

201 A fire brigade is going to hold the Balkans (Yugoslavia had overthrown its pro-Germany king or whatever he was) and Greece without actually having evicted the British who were in Greece? Regardless, the prior winter had been a heavy one and rivers in Eastern Europe had very high water levels until late. Plus, the tanks that got warn down in SE Europe were mostly PZ IIs and early model IIIs. Not very useful against Russia. Not to mention going into Yugo and Greece provided a lot of training -- not everyone who went into Russia had fought in France/Holland/Belgium.
Posted by: SFGoth at July 13, 2023 09:24 PM (KAi1n)

The Brits only entered Greece after the Germans invaded Greece. That's one of the reasons they got bounced right out of there with such humiliation, they were tossed in like droplets sprinkled into a fire.

I am less familiar with Yugoslavia's situation but they had not joined the allies when the Germans invaded. And if they did, what are the British going to do, invade there? How would they supply a force in Yugoslavia in 1941?

Posted by: Oldcat at July 13, 2023 09:30 PM (eoQWY)

202 " I don't think there's a any doubt the Germans man for man were the best at war. "

Well, I don't know 'bout that.

Posted by: Alvin York at July 13, 2023 09:31 PM (iayUP)

203 Canton McKinley Bulldogs vs. Massilion Tigers is a death match every year.

Like seemingly everything else, not so much anymore. Either one team or the other doesn't seem to be able to remain consistent. Kids just aren't playing football anymore, except maybe Madden on a console. Kinda sad, IMO.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at July 13, 2023 09:31 PM (Xrfse)

204 I was manning a roadblock in 'Nam and a jeep rolled up. It had a Warren G. Harding HS sticker on the windshield (go Panthers). Good thing it wasn't a Cincy Moeller or it would have been lit up. Ohio HS football, serious as Texas HS football.
Posted by: bill in arkansas

Canton McKinley Bulldogs vs. Massilion Tigers is a death match every year.
Posted by: Tonypete at July 13, 2023 09:23 PM (OjHyA)

I went to Princeton HS and in my senior year in 79 we beat Moeller and won state, breaking a 8 year or so streak

Posted by: Oldcat at July 13, 2023 09:32 PM (eoQWY)

205 Penguin Defense Fund is compelling.

Posted by: runner at July 13, 2023 09:32 PM (V13WU)

206 Wrong. If Hitler had paused after France imagine the the big 4 summits that would have ensued. Frankie lording it over Winston with uncle Joe and Dolf.
Posted by: JmT

What Big 4 summits? We weren't involved and wouldn't have gotten involved. Our commies still loved Hitler b/c of Molotov-Von Ribbentrop. Germany could not have stayed mobilized until May, 1942 with no war going on. The Soviets were going to invade Germany in 1942 anyway. There's no way Stalin was going to let the status quo continue indefinitely. The whole point of M-VR was to enable Germany to take on Poland, and hence Britain/France which would presumably win (or at least severely weaken Germany). It was then or never.

Posted by: SFGoth at July 13, 2023 09:33 PM (KAi1n)

207 the guy @ 185-
I saw what you did there.

Heh.

Posted by: That guy who always says... at July 13, 2023 09:33 PM (Xrfse)

208 Sure the unit was weaker heading to the front, but at the crisis a weak unit is better than no unit at all.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 13, 2023 09:20 PM (eoQWY)

Ah! I was always a little confused on how they were able to do that so efficiently. The soviets had their flaws but mobilizing the country wasn’t one of them.

Thanks Oldcat!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 13, 2023 09:33 PM (R/m4+)

209 Doing some work in the wooded side lot, a largish bear walked by very slowly. Same one I saw yesterday, I think. He seems old, and tired, just walking appeared to be an effort. If I could have offered him something to drink and eat, I would have. Rather sad.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 13, 2023 09:34 PM (gJagN)

210 *tents fingers*

Release the birds!

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 13, 2023 09:35 PM (llON8)

211 Still have them in my county on Memorial Day. There are roughly equal numbers of men KIA from both the CSA and the USA in my area.

Posted by: Tonypete

--

I remember reading in a history book that at the first Memorial Day remembrance ceremony at Arlington people asked permission to place flowers, and after a lot of discussion and pushback from D.C. they said fine, flowers could be placed on the graves, but NONE could be placed on the graves of any confederates. The ladies responsible for placing the flowers obeyed the rules went home.

And then a wind blew all of the flowers onto the Confederate side.

After that both sides got flowers each year because people back then had sense enough to believe in God.

Posted by: Moron Robbie Figured Out That Long Covid Means the Shot at July 13, 2023 09:35 PM (O69GV)

212 The Dream of Flight, Christopher Tin

https://youtu.be/vyZMj6v9J4o

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 13, 2023 09:36 PM (ybIRR)

213 @162

>>what's up ? anything good happen today ?

I bought a house and then I spent some more money on top of that to replace some sub-standard HVAC.

Having a well earned pitcher of Gimlet's.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 13, 2023 09:36 PM (up/3i)

214 Doing some work in the wooded side lot, a largish bear walked by very slowly. Same one I saw yesterday, I think. He seems old, and tired, just walking appeared to be an effort. If I could have offered him something to drink and eat, I would have. Rather sad.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 13, 2023 09:34 PM (gJagN)

A nice dish of porridge would not go unappreciated. Not too hot, not too cold. Maybe some cream and brown sugar on it.

Posted by: totally not the bear at July 13, 2023 09:36 PM (qON3L)

215 204 Moeller was tough to beat. 5000 all boy student body known as Notre Dame prep, with a lot of guys looking a lot older than their birth certificate.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 13, 2023 09:37 PM (rLD7a)

216 I bought a house and then I spent some more money on top of that to replace some sub-standard HVAC.

Having a well earned pitcher of Gimlet's.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 13, 2023 09:36 PM (up/3i)

Good for you ! Congratulations !

Posted by: runner at July 13, 2023 09:38 PM (V13WU)

217 what's up ? anything good happen today ?

Pulled out the old, dead dishwasher and glory be - The wiring and plumbing are in the correct spots and have the appropriate connectors/threads available for the new one.

Will wonders never cease!

Posted by: Tonypete at July 13, 2023 09:39 PM (OjHyA)

218 Think someone did that with a pair of battleship turrets too

Germans put 11 inch turrets off Gneisnau in Norway, and the Soviets installed a turret on one of their shores off one of their wrecked pre WW1 battleships.

Posted by: azjaeger at July 13, 2023 09:39 PM (3/XaG)

219 Pulled out the old, dead dishwasher and glory be - The wiring and plumbing are in the correct spots and have the appropriate connectors/threads available for the new one.

Will wonders never cease!
Posted by: Tonypete at July 13, 2023 09:39 PM (OjHyA)

Good for you ! (too) yes, a miracle.

Posted by: runner at July 13, 2023 09:40 PM (V13WU)

220 194 Back in the late 70's, George Patton Jr was the deputy commander of VII Corps in Stuttgart. A local German government guy, and later mayor of Stuttgart was Rommel's son. They became good friends.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 13, 2023 09:26 PM (e4fEA)

all my grandparents had farms outside of Ludwigsburg but they came here over 100 years ago

I've been there a few times. Farms make nice golf courses

Posted by: REDACTED at July 13, 2023 09:41 PM (us2H3)

221 News Nation U tube clip: Retired USAF general says the entire Russian front is now fortified 15 miles deep. Thinks the Uke’s will need thousands of armored vehicles, a million tons of ammo, and an air force to have a hope.

Posted by: Queequeg the Harpooner at July 13, 2023 09:41 PM (mMOcY)

222 Doing some additional.reading. This reserve callup is not due to a shortage in recruiting. Looks like they need people doing key jobs to support troops in Europe. In short...a spin up in some key MOS's. I'd like to know what they are.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 13, 2023 09:41 PM (e4fEA)

223 @216

>>Good for you ! Congratulations !

It's sort of bitter sweet as in this place is going to be the last stop for a bunch of people.

At least there's room to roam, and that's nice.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 13, 2023 09:41 PM (up/3i)

224 204 Moeller was tough to beat. 5000 all boy student body known as Notre Dame prep, with a lot of guys looking a lot older than their birth certificate.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 13, 2023 09:37 PM (rLD7a)

Also went to a HS in Cincy when they lived all over the country. Even the other Catholic schools only really drew from the immediate area, and Princeton just from its (admittedly large) district area less those who went to Catholic HS

Posted by: Oldcat at July 13, 2023 09:41 PM (eoQWY)

225 I was this >< close to getting physically violent today. But I held back !

Posted by: runner at July 13, 2023 09:42 PM (V13WU)

226 News Nation U tube clip: Retired USAF general says the entire Russian front is now fortified 15 miles deep. Thinks the Uke’s will need thousands of armored vehicles, a million tons of ammo, and an air force to have a hope.
Posted by: Queequeg the Harpooner at July 13, 2023 09:41 PM (mMOcY)

in the month of fighting in the southern front, the Ukrainians still have not reached the *first* defensive line there.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 13, 2023 09:42 PM (eoQWY)

227 The Russians have more SAMs in theater than the Ukrainians have aircraft.

Posted by: Queequeg the Harpooner at July 13, 2023 09:43 PM (mMOcY)

228 I was putting off supper, so I just had a spinach and tomato salad, a little bit of Italian dressing, and a few saltines. Yay, I'm a healthy silver senior. Waffle House patty melts tomorrow!

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 13, 2023 09:44 PM (rLD7a)

229 SF of course Frank wanted to be the head of a big three. Joe and Dolf would have been great sidekicks. Rubbing Winston's nose in it was a bonus. Any Brit leader would have done.

Posted by: JmT at July 13, 2023 09:44 PM (YrfxG)

230 I notice Ray Epps aint suing Tucker, just FOX

Posted by: REDACTED at July 13, 2023 09:44 PM (us2H3)

231 I was this >
Posted by: runner at July 13, 2023 09:42 PM (V13WU)

Oh oh!

*cracks knuckles*

You'se got sum heads need bustin' boss?

Posted by: Diogenes at July 13, 2023 09:45 PM (e4fEA)

232 Ukes have no hope at winning against Russia. Even fortified with NATO. The whole bidness was futile.

Posted by: runner at July 13, 2023 09:46 PM (V13WU)

233 It's mine because I have my troops all over it, fag

Henry

Posted by: REDACTED at July 13, 2023 09:46 PM (us2H3)

234 Hunter Biden's lawyer sends cease-and-desist letter to Trump over social media posts, claiming first son could be hurt: 'One message away'

Posted by: DB - at July 13, 2023 09:46 PM (geLO8)

235 222 Doing some additional.reading. This reserve callup is not due to a shortage in recruiting. Looks like they need people doing key jobs to support troops in Europe. In short...a spin up in some key MOS's. I'd like to know what they are.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 13, 2023 09:41 PM (e4fEA)

My guess is aviators and aviation maintenance types and rocket artillery.

Posted by: blaster at July 13, 2023 09:46 PM (pwExq)

236 Diogenes, he was 2 inches shorter. I just don't punch down, you know ?

Posted by: runner at July 13, 2023 09:46 PM (V13WU)

237 Wonder what the Ukrainian desertion rate is.

Posted by: Queequeg the Harpooner at July 13, 2023 09:47 PM (mMOcY)

238 234 Hunter Biden's lawyer sends cease-and-desist letter to Trump over social media posts, claiming first son could be hurt: 'One message away'
Posted by: DB - at July 13, 2023 09:46 PM (geLO

I'm purty shore Hunter qualifies as Public Property

Posted by: REDACTED at July 13, 2023 09:48 PM (us2H3)

239 218 Think someone did that with a pair of battleship turrets too

Germans put 11 inch turrets off Gneisnau in Norway, and the Soviets installed a turret on one of their shores off one of their wrecked pre WW1 battleships.
========
And the USA did it first with the "concrete battleship", Fort Drum, at the entrance to Manila Bay.

Posted by: exdem13 at July 13, 2023 09:49 PM (W+kMI)

240 remember reading in a history book that at the first Memorial Day remembrance ceremony at Arlington people asked permission to place flowers, and after a lot of discussion and pushback from D.C. they said fine, flowers could be placed on the graves, but NONE could be placed on the graves of any confederates. The ladies responsible for placing the flowers obeyed the rules went home.

And then a wind blew all of the flowers onto the Confederate side.

After that both sides got flowers each year because people back then had sense enough to believe in God.
Posted by: Moron Robbie Figured Out That Long Covid Means the Shot at July 13, 2023 09:35 PM (O69GV)

Confederate soldiers weren't reburied in Arlington until 1900, 35 years after the war, so I doubt the accuracy. It's a nice story though that fits into a lot of the sentiments after the ACW to put things aside.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 13, 2023 09:49 PM (eoQWY)

241 News Nation U tube clip: Retired USAF general says the entire Russian front is now fortified 15 miles deep. Thinks the Uke’s will need thousands of armored vehicles, a million tons of ammo, and an air force to have a hope.

--

HOW DARE YOU!

Everyone knows Ukraine is winning. That's why they need more troops. And jets. Also cluster bombs. And to ban political parties.

Posted by: Moron Robbie Figured Out That Long Covid Means the Shot at July 13, 2023 09:49 PM (O69GV)

242 224 Guy in Warren who owned a bar set up a Winnebago in the back of the joint so his nephew who lived in Southington could attend Harding because scouts don't look at Southington. It's an industry I tell ya.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 13, 2023 09:49 PM (rLD7a)

243 Mexican company creates 1,429.47-pound marshmallow
July 13 (UPI) -- A Mexican candy company earned a Guinness World Record by creating a massive marshmallow weighing more than a grand piano.

Posted by: DB - at July 13, 2023 09:50 PM (geLO8)

244 D.C. they said fine, flowers could be placed on the graves, but NONE could be placed on the graves of any confederates.

+===

that's just mean

Posted by: runner at July 13, 2023 09:51 PM (V13WU)

245 @230

>>I notice Ray Epps aint suing Tucker, just FOX

FOX is likely to just roll over instead of fighting, that much is clear.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 13, 2023 09:51 PM (up/3i)

246 I am glad my Marine did his MEU two years ago instead of now.

Jeepers. I picked a bad time to stop drinking for awhile.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 13, 2023 09:52 PM (U2p+3)

247 Wonder what the Ukrainian desertion rate is.
Posted by: Queequeg the Harpooner at July 13, 2023 09:47 PM (mMOcY)

The overall courage of the troops is impressive, including those swept from the streets to fight.

This may not be a good thing for Ukraine in the long run.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 13, 2023 09:52 PM (eoQWY)

248 237 Wonder what the Ukrainian desertion rate is.
Posted by: Queequeg the Harpooner at July 13, 2023 09:47 PM (mMOcY)

one with each dinner

Posted by: REDACTED at July 13, 2023 09:52 PM (us2H3)

249 234 Hunter Biden's lawyer sends cease-and-desist letter to Trump over social media posts, claiming first son could be hurt: 'One message away'
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I'm sure Trump is shaking in his golf shoes over that delivery.

Posted by: exdem13 at July 13, 2023 09:52 PM (W+kMI)

250 ukes need more troops...to cover their withdrawal

Posted by: runner at July 13, 2023 09:52 PM (V13WU)

251 Zoo asks visitors to stop showing phone videos to gorillas
July 10 (UPI) -- The Toronto Zoo is asking visitors to help limit screen time for certain primates by refraining from showing cellphone videos to the facility's gorillas.

Posted by: DB - at July 13, 2023 09:53 PM (geLO8)

252 logistics, man. there is no one to take care of logistics on uke side, and we are so awesome at it...

Posted by: runner at July 13, 2023 09:53 PM (V13WU)

253 Any of you guys with a brick of .22 ammo or a box of 9mm better send it to the Uke embassy now. If you don't have any of that stuff, Amazon gift cards are welcomed.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 13, 2023 09:56 PM (rLD7a)

254 Wow. Now seeing ads for #pubichair.

It's okay to talk about songs the cartoon.

For products that remove pubic hair.

Posted by: blaster at July 13, 2023 09:56 PM (pwExq)

255 For the worst lip synch of all time

Steve McQueen in Baby the rain Must Fall

Posted by: REDACTED at July 13, 2023 09:57 PM (us2H3)

256 Confederate soldiers weren't reburied in Arlington until 1900, 35 years after the war, so I doubt the accuracy. It's a nice story though that fits into a lot of the sentiments after the ACW to put things aside.

Posted by: Oldcat

--

I have no idea what the history book was, but I found a reference to it:

"He wrote many other poems and did not consider the poem for which he is remembered one of his best. He preferred "At Arlington", which he wrote after a visit to that cemetery. He saw a group of Confederate women turned away at gunpoint by Federal soldiers as they attempted to put flowers on the graves there. Later that night, the story goes, wind blew flowers from the Union graves onto the graves of the Confederate dead. "

https://tinyurl.com/2o3q8xa3

Can't find a date for the poem but I'll admit I didn't look too hard.

Posted by: Moron Robbie Figured Out That Long Covid Means the Shot at July 13, 2023 09:58 PM (O69GV)

257 D.C. they said fine, flowers could be placed on the graves, but NONE could be placed on the graves of any confederates.

+===

that's just mean

Posted by: runner

--

Wait until you hear about them removing the statue after Saint Floyd died.

https://tinyurl.com/2jhbccpa

Posted by: Moron Robbie Figured Out That Long Covid Means the Shot at July 13, 2023 10:00 PM (O69GV)

258 I don't think David Drake is writing any books anymore.

Posted by: Kindltot - Email me at the link here for information about the PNW MoMEE in August at July 13, 2023 10:01 PM (xhaym)

259 There's a small cemetery about twenty miles from here I've walked through, always finding them interesting. On Memorial Day, the flags come out and somebody places a few CBFs on graves of those who served.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 13, 2023 10:01 PM (rLD7a)

260 Putin is going to have to have his ass reamed
just to make enough room for all the noses being shoved there.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at July 13, 2023 10:19 PM (4PZHB)

261 People showing Toronto zoo animal phone videos. The youngest gorilla is especially interested in watching any film starring Rosie O'Donnell.

Posted by: 13times at July 13, 2023 10:55 PM (Hzvwc)

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