Judge <i>Denies</i> Biden Administration's Motion to Stay His Injunction, Which Prohibits Biden's Censors From Contacting Social Media Companies to Urge or Pressure Them Into Censoring Protected Speech

Judge Denies Biden Administration's Motion to Stay His Injunction, Which Prohibits Biden's Censors From Contacting Social Media Companies to Urge or Pressure Them Into Censoring Protected Speech

Boy when you put it like that, it's hard to see how the Biden Administration isn't just demanding the right to censor enemies' speech.

Which is what the state AGs et al. argued in their brief opposing the government's motion:

The Court's preliminary injunction, Doc. 294, prevents Defendants only from doing what the First Amendment plainly forbids--i.e., "urging, encouraging, pressuring, or inducing ... the removal, deletion, suppression, or reduction of content containing protected free speech posted on social-media platforms." Id. at 4. Before the injunction was entered, Defendants spent months attempting to identify areas of legitimate government conduct that such an injunction might disrupt. They submitted five declarations from senior federal officials identifying areas of government speech and conduct with which, they claimed, an injunction enforcing First Amendment rights might interfere. See, e.g., Doc. 266, at 258. The Court carefully addressed all those concerns by providing eight clear and specific exclusions to the injunction, which specify areas of legitimate government speech and conduct that the injunction does not prohibit. Doc. 294, at 5-6 (listing conduct that is "NOT prohibited by this Preliminary Injunction").

Defendants now seek to stay the preliminary injunction, claiming that the injunction "may" cause "grave harm" by "prevent[ing] the Government from engaging in a vast range of lawful and responsible conduct." Doc. 297-1, at 1. But, after months of searching on this very issue, Defendants do not identify a single specific example of supposedly "grave harm" that the injunction might cause, or a single specific example of "lawful and responsible" government conduct that the injunction prevents. See id. at 1-6. By its plain terms, the injunction permits Defendants to engage in the full range of permissible Government speech and conduct--such as "(1) informing social-media companies of postings involving criminal activity or criminal conspiracies;" "(2) contacting and/or notifying social-media companies of national security threats, extortion, or other threats posted on its platform;" "(3) contacting and/or notifying social- media companies about criminal efforts to suppress voting, to provide illegal campaign contributions, of cyber-attacks against election infrastructure, or foreign attempts to influence elections;" "(4) informing social-media companies of threats that threaten the public safety or security of the United States;" and "(5) exercising permissible public government speech promoting government policies or views on matters of public concern," among others. Doc. 294,
at 5-6.
In the face of these clear and specific authorizations, Defendants' conclusory speculative assertion of "grave harm" that the injunction "may be read" to cause, Doc. 297-1, at 1--devoid of any specific examples or evidence of such harm--does not warrant an extraordinary stay.
In fact, Defendants identify only two vague categories of supposedly legitimate
government conduct that the injunction supposedly "may be read" to prevent: "[1] speaking on matters of public concern" and "[2] working with social media companies on initiatives to prevent grave harm to the American people and our democratic processes." Id. As to the first, the injunction explicitly authorized the Government to "speak[] on matters of public concern." 294, at 6 (permitting Defendants to "(5) exercise[e] permissible public government speech
promoting government policies or views on matters of public concern").
The second point, therefore, reflects the Government's only real concern--i.e., that the injunction will prevent Defendants from "working with social media companies on initiatives to prevent grave harm to the American people and our democratic processes." But the evidence in this case overwhelmingly shows that the way the Government supposedly "prevent[s] grave harm to the American people and our democratic processes" is to pressure and induce social-media platforms to censor disfavored viewpoints on COVID-19, elections, and other core political speech. The Government's assertion of "grave harm," therefore, boils down to the claim that it should be allowed to continue violating the First Amendment.
In the end, their position is fundamentally defiant toward the Court's judgment. It demonstrates that the Government will continue violating First Amendment rights by censoring core political speech on social media as soon as it can get away with it. The motion to stay should be denied.

The judge agreed:

Biden already filed papers to appeal the original injunction. It will be heard by the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals, and then, if Biden loses again, it will be appealed to the Supreme Court.

He will also appeal this ruling about the injunction. A preliminary injunction is a remedy issued before a trial, to stop harm that's happening now and will continue happening if a judge does not issue an order to stop that harm. The Fifth Circuit will also rule on whether the injunction remains in force. It will probably be a very expedited hearing.

In the meantime, Biden's Rogue Government remains legally prohibited from its lawless course of censoring political enemies' speech.

But, as the state AGs said -- the Rogue Government is "in defiance" against the order. They will probably continue breaking the law.

Posted by: Lamont the Big Dummy at 03:27 PM

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1 Is this what happens if you keep a bread clip in your wallet?

Posted by: fd at July 10, 2023 03:28 PM (iayUP)

2 shoulda bin first. damm laptop

Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 10, 2023 03:29 PM (B1FKF)

3 DEEE-NIDE!

Posted by: Archimedes at July 10, 2023 03:29 PM (eOEVl)

4 *sock change*

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 10, 2023 03:30 PM (FVJNG)

5 SPONGE!

Posted by: Inogame at July 10, 2023 03:30 PM (53oGX)

6 well, it was in italics

Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 10, 2023 03:30 PM (B1FKF)

7 I'm sure the judge considered telling the defendants to "Suck my d***".

Posted by: Archimedes at July 10, 2023 03:30 PM (eOEVl)

8 awwww

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at July 10, 2023 03:31 PM (xcxpd)

9 We strenuously object!

Posted by: Biden Administration at July 10, 2023 03:31 PM (4I/2K)

10 Anyway, this is nice, but the CIA is gonna do what the CIA has always done: ignore the law.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at July 10, 2023 03:31 PM (xcxpd)

11 The way this works in federal court, if you want to "stay" an injunction pending appeal, you first ask the judge who entered it in the first place. If the judge denies the stay (which has now happened), then you can ask the court of appeals to issue the stay.

That will be an interesting one.

Posted by: mattman26 at July 10, 2023 03:32 PM (1fnam)

12 You do not appeal to the Supreme Court. You beg it to take review.

Posted by: SFGoth at July 10, 2023 03:32 PM (KAi1n)

13 Demunist Commiecrats, rather than bash corporations a la Bernie Sanders, now get into bed with them, offer them protection from any reasonable antitrust, and get them to do their bidding in return.

This sadly works all too well.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at July 10, 2023 03:32 PM (D5l7Y)

14 I kinda hope this goes all the way to SCOTUS where Thomas can write the majority opinion that Catholics from Scranton are no longer eligible to be President, and neither is anyone who's ever sucked a dick.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 10, 2023 03:32 PM (ZGrMX)

15 So I'm not misunderstanding, the federal government under Biden is openly and outright arguing for censorship and the violation of 1st Amendment rights here, correct?

But Trump said pussy and wanted to be a dictator or something.

Posted by: Moron Robbie at July 10, 2023 03:32 PM (wqFd7)

16 It wasn't like the Federal government was directly ordering private companies that are subject to Federal oversight and regulations to censor free speech or anything.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 10, 2023 03:32 PM (ncXxy)

17 the problem is that if the twats in the biden admin want to say something is misinformation, no one will believe them. much better to just ask the tools at socialist media to suppress the story

Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 10, 2023 03:32 PM (B1FKF)

18 In both this case, and the ongoing attempt to torpedo The Sound of Freedom, it's absolutely astonishing that anyone is trying to argue what they're arguing.

Why not just come out and say "we favor fascism and child abuse"?

Posted by: Archimedes at July 10, 2023 03:33 PM (eOEVl)

19 Hope this is cleared up by 2024. How else are they going to "fortify the election" and preserve "Our democra(tocra)cy"?

Posted by: Axeman at July 10, 2023 03:33 PM (krQz2)

20 Demunist Commiecrats, rather than bash corporations a la Bernie Sanders, now get into bed with them, offer them protection from any reasonable antitrust, and get them to do their bidding in return.

And they shriek that opposing a corporate-government fusion is fascism. Uhhhhhhhh...

Posted by: Ian S. at July 10, 2023 03:33 PM (ZGrMX)

21 Biden, who calls himself the "Constitutional leader" of our country, is seeking the emergency right to continue widespread illegal censorship of free speech, and the press is on his side!!

This ranks right up there at the top of the list of "things I never expected to see in America".

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 10, 2023 03:33 PM (mOuSQ)

22 Biden and his junta really went on a return to norms country wide tour.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at July 10, 2023 03:33 PM (17s+e)

23 19 Hope this is cleared up by 2024. How else are they going to "fortify the election" and preserve "Our democra(tocra)cy"?
Posted by: Axeman at July 10, 2023 03:33 PM (krQz2)

You know how.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at July 10, 2023 03:33 PM (xcxpd)

24 In both this case, and the ongoing attempt to torpedo The Sound of Freedom, it's absolutely astonishing that anyone is trying to argue what they're arguing.

Why not just come out and say "we favor fascism and child abuse"?

Because they're also hoping to slip sex with animals in there.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 10, 2023 03:34 PM (ZGrMX)

25 And to those who argue that nothing has changed since '20, I give you exhibit A.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 10, 2023 03:34 PM (eOEVl)

26 They'll even jail you for it in defiance of the law.

You see, they have the all the F15s, the FBI, the CIA, NSA, and more, while all you got is your little everyday carry thing.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at July 10, 2023 03:34 PM (emrql)

27 The Judge'a penmanship is worse than mine.

Posted by: JT at July 10, 2023 03:34 PM (T4tVD)

28 Biden already filed papers to appeal the original injunction.
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I filled plenty of briefs as well.

Posted by: President Charlie Foxtrot at July 10, 2023 03:34 PM (krQz2)

29 They will probably continue breaking the law.

Posted by: Lamont the Big Dummy at 03:27 PM

Understatement of the millennium.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 10, 2023 03:34 PM (dGCAG)

30 the day that matt taibbi testified before a house of reps committee, irs agents show up at his house

message sent

Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 10, 2023 03:34 PM (B1FKF)

31 These people are fucking pigs.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 10, 2023 03:34 PM (TZ75n)

32 Boy when you put it like that, it's hard to see how the Biden Administration isn't just demanding the right to censor enemies' speech.
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LOL. Your lack of conformity with the DC spin machine is notable...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 10, 2023 03:34 PM (t0OGg)

33 Can't believe this unelected Trumpian stooge is outlawing simple jawboning...

Posted by: Inogame at July 10, 2023 03:35 PM (53oGX)

34 In both this case, and the ongoing attempt to torpedo The Sound of Freedom, it's absolutely astonishing that anyone is trying to argue what they're arguing.

Why not just come out and say "we favor fascism and child abuse"?

Because they're also hoping to slip sex with animals in there.

Oh, and I forgot to include racial discrimination in college admissions.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 10, 2023 03:35 PM (eOEVl)

35 Luckily we have a staunch defender of speech in Zuckerberg who will totally not grovel so he stays part of the acceptables with the left...

Posted by: Bete at July 10, 2023 03:35 PM (PYoBO)

36 25 Why not just come out and say "we favor fascism and child abuse"?

Because they're also hoping to slip sex with animals in there.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 10, 2023 03:34 PM (ZGrMX)

People forget just how many AWFLs are dogpilled.

Posted by: XTC at July 10, 2023 03:35 PM (UnA8+)

37 You see, they have the all the F15s, the FBI, the CIA, NSA, and more, while all you got is your little everyday carry thing.

Yeah, but they have no ammo because it all went to Ukraine (and the Taliban). Advantage: everyday carry thing.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 10, 2023 03:35 PM (ZGrMX)

38 18 In both this case, and the ongoing attempt to torpedo The Sound of Freedom, it's absolutely astonishing that anyone is trying to argue what they're arguing.

Why not just come out and say "we favor fascism and child abuse"?
Posted by: Archimedes at July 10, 2023 03:33 PM (eOEVl)

It is amazing how the Left would not just say "it is only a movie", when discussing Sound Of Freedom.

I don't recall any significant people carping about Islamophobia (aside from the usual suspects) when "Taken" was released, do you?

Posted by: Curmudgeon at July 10, 2023 03:35 PM (D5l7Y)

39 Willowed: (OT)
Vanessa Kirby

Blonde:
https://tinyurl.com/5ymdbmke

Brunette:
https://tinyurl.com/ym9n9ruc

My gut is telling me to ask her out, so she is definitely crazy. But damn, it's those eyes. Insane hot. The rest is nice too.

Or, I'm the crazy one.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at July 10, 2023 03:35 PM (zZu0s)

40 The Government's assertion of "grave harm," therefore, boils down to the claim that it should be allowed to continue violating the First Amendment.

In the end, their position is fundamentally defiant toward the Court's judgment. It demonstrates that the Government will continue violating First Amendment rights by censoring core political speech on social media as soon as it can get away with it. The motion to stay should be denied.
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I am not a lawyer, but that reads to me as if the judge is whacking them on the nose with a rolled-up newspaper and saying, "no" in a loud, firm voice.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 10, 2023 03:36 PM (t0OGg)

41 32 These people are fucking pigs.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 10, 2023 03:34 PM (TZ75n)

And they're not even pleasant enough to use lube while they do it.

Posted by: XTC at July 10, 2023 03:36 PM (UnA8+)

42 So....they files an injunction against the injunction that stayed the original injunction? So they're teeing this up for Kamala to argue...totally in her wheelhouse.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 10, 2023 03:36 PM (e4fEA)

43 "...the ongoing attempt to torpedo The Sound of Freedom"

Did you see CNN trotted out an obscure Rothschild heir to bad talk that film? a) I never heard of him b) who gives a f*ck what he might say?

Posted by: gourmand du jour at July 10, 2023 03:36 PM (MeG8a)

44 Biden and the democrat party sure do have a lot in common with Adolph the Austrian Amateur Artist and the National SOCIALIST Workers party of the 1930s Germany.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at July 10, 2023 03:36 PM (17s+e)

45 We are now a nation of Elites, not of laws or the Constitution.

We have a cabal of illegitimate overloads who want to exterminate the masses.

Posted by: Czech Chick at July 10, 2023 03:36 PM (6Tc2R)

46 Ace, are you going to give us a Sound Of Freedom review?

Posted by: Mark1971 at July 10, 2023 03:36 PM (xPl2J)

47 Bloomberg Headlines, now:

Big Tech’s Dominance in Stock Market Hits Breakpoint for Nasdaq 100
Exchange plans special rebalance to curb ‘overconcentration’
The six largest members saw their weights rise above 50%

Too big to control?

Posted by: L - Practice makes perfect. They know their enemies. at July 10, 2023 03:37 PM (GshMh)

48 Zuck doesn't need any direction from the WH to do what needs to be done.

Neither does Google.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at July 10, 2023 03:37 PM (emrql)

49 The 5th Circuit is, generally speaking, pretty conservative as well. I predict n dice there.

As to the SC... I doubt they will be willing to piss on the 1st Amendment to make the Dems happy.

The Ministry of Truth just took a bigun in the ass.

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 10, 2023 03:37 PM (zHuJr)

50 Your honor I object.

Overruled.

Your honor I strongly object.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 10, 2023 03:37 PM (ZLI7S)

51 14 So you are saying I still have a chance?

Posted by: Hillzabub at July 10, 2023 03:37 PM (PYoBO)

52 Why not just come out and say "we favor fascism and child abuse"?
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Because deception is a form of power.

Posted by: Axeman at July 10, 2023 03:37 PM (krQz2)

53 Biden's DOJ didn't proffer a single example where they would be hurt by this ruling. Not a single one in their entire brief. Just think about how arrogant and presumptuous that is. You file for an injunction and don't even bother to provide any specifics on what harm would be realized. That really pissed the judge off.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 10, 2023 03:37 PM (kmK04)

54 No Stairway?

Posted by: Wayne Biden at July 10, 2023 03:37 PM (7YrZ7)

55 He will also appeal this ruling about the injunction. A preliminary injunction is a remedy issued before a trial, to stop harm that's happening now and will continue happening if a judge does not issue an order to stop that harm. The Fifth Circuit will also rule on whether the injunction remains in force. It will probably be a very expedited hearing.
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So pending the appeal - if the government wins it - the actions are, as of now, still forbidden by the injunction.

What do you want to bet that the volume of E-Mail traffic and telephone calls between the federal agencies and the social media outfits has *increased* rather than decreased? I would bet everything I've got. Not only are they still doing the censorship coordination, they also need to herd all of the cats to make sure it keeps happening without a hitch.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 10, 2023 03:38 PM (t0OGg)

56 But, as the state AGs said -- the Rogue Government is "in defiance" against the order. They will probably continue breaking the law.

"No controlling legal authority!" Remember that argument from way back when?

Besides - so what if they do continue despite the injunction. What is going to happen? Courts may continue to rule against them, but what will ultimately happen?

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 10, 2023 03:38 PM (N39Ws)

57 I am not a lawyer, but that reads to me as if the judge is whacking them on the nose with a rolled-up newspaper and saying, "no" in a loud, firm voice.

That's exactly what he's doing, and I have the sense that if he's willing to be this firm initially, he's going to be most displeased with people who try to play games.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 10, 2023 03:38 PM (eOEVl)

58 49 The 5th Circuit is, generally speaking, pretty conservative as well. I predict n dice there.

As to the SC... I doubt they will be willing to piss on the 1st Amendment to make the Dems happy.

The Ministry of Truth just took a bigun in the ass.
Posted by: GnuBreed at July 10, 2023 03:37 PM (zHuJr)

Are we sure it's not a tax?

Posted by: Dred SCOTUS Roberts at July 10, 2023 03:38 PM (53oGX)

59 If you can't go Full Ministry of Truth, you can always go Full Pedo, Child Sex Trafficking, and Child Mutilation.

Oh wait ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Semiquincentennial or Bust! at July 10, 2023 03:38 PM (Q+M7t)

60 16 It wasn't like the Federal government was directly ordering private companies that are subject to Federal oversight and regulations to censor free speech or anything.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 10, 2023 03:32 PM (ncXxy)

EU did... openly. China does... openly. Moslem nations do...openly.

US does... in secret.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 10, 2023 03:38 PM (oHd/0)

61 One of the biggest criticisms libertarians have of the so-called conservative right these days is how they cling to the Constitution, as if the document is going to save them.

Of course conservatives are right, when they say this that and the other are violations of the Constitution.

So what?

The left isn't fighting you for the interpretation of that slave owner created document. They don't care what the Constitution says. They're exerting power where they can, because they can.

I'm not saying conservatives should stop wanting to operate within constitutional frameworks, just to acknowledge their enemy does not, and it's a waste of time to continue to act like they do.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 10, 2023 03:39 PM (dGCAG)

62 And the pigs are not happy.

Posted by: wth at July 10, 2023 03:39 PM (v0R5T)

63 18 Why not just come out and say "we favor fascism and child abuse"?
Posted by: Archimedes at July 10, 2023 03:33 PM (eOEVl)

Because making you hear the lie over and over and over and over again is part of how they win.

Posted by: XTC at July 10, 2023 03:39 PM (UnA8+)

64 We are now a nation of Elites, not of laws or the Constitution.

We have a cabal of illegitimate overloads who want to exterminate the masses.
Posted by: Czech Chick at July 10, 2023 03:36 PM (6Tc2R)

Worse yet, they are crappy elites. At least Earl Nuttyham had to wear a suit of armor and charge the French, and Colonel Blimp had to stand under fire and encourage the men.

Our current set can't tell men from women and hide in the cupboards from their own political op riots.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 10, 2023 03:39 PM (eoQWY)

65 Did you see CNN trotted out an obscure Rothschild heir to bad talk that film? a) I never heard of him b) who gives a f*ck what he might say?
Posted by: gourmand du jour at July 10, 2023 03:36 PM (MeG8a)
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Jewish mothers with daughters of marriageable age?

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 10, 2023 03:39 PM (mOuSQ)

66 The Junta will keep doing regardless of what the courts say.

Posted by: Itimerant Alley Butcher at July 10, 2023 03:40 PM (ga8qR)

67 Instagrams new competitor to Twitter is already carrying out all the prohibited activities that were happening prior to Musk. All the censorship, shadow banning, targeting of conservatives, etc. they did that on their own.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 10, 2023 03:40 PM (kmK04)

68 Related since we know about the coordination / censorship:

"Now They Tell Us: Joe Biden Has Frequent Angry Outbursts, Humiliates Staff"

Every single thing they told us about Trump was done to misdirect / soften the reality about Biden.

I have no doubt Trump was the one that got 80M votes, and that's why the left (and Biden himself) constantly spikes that football.

Posted by: Moron Robbie at July 10, 2023 03:40 PM (wqFd7)

69 The six largest members saw their weights rise above 50%

Too big to control?
Posted by: L - Practice makes perfect. They know their enemies. at July 10, 2023 03:37 PM (GshMh)

This has not been, how you say, The Paolo's experience.

Posted by: The Paolo at July 10, 2023 03:40 PM (4I/2K)

70 Are we sure it's not a tax?

Posted by: Dred SCOTUS Roberts at July 10, 2023 03:38 PM (53oGX)

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"US States and their AGs have no standing! Next?"

Posted by: ShainS -- Semiquincentennial or Bust! at July 10, 2023 03:41 PM (Q+M7t)

71 I wish the judge could indict (is that the right word?) someone who is brought to him for violating his injuction. We need the injuction AND the locking up of ALL who violate it in a SPEEDY fashion (no 12 year lawsuit).

I can dream, right?

Posted by: Iris at July 10, 2023 03:41 PM (n3DL0)

72 Tyranting be hard, yo!

Posted by: Corn Pop Biden at July 10, 2023 03:41 PM (ufFY8)

73 One of the legal requirements to get a stay is a showing of "irreparable harm" if the stay is not granted. Even if the government ultimately wins on appeal, it is rather far-fetched that there will be any harm by denying these officials a right to demand censorship in the interim.

Posted by: I Work for Dick Jones at July 10, 2023 03:41 PM (26v+j)

74 The ability of Freedom Walush to tell Biden his nipple hair is sexy is now safe.

Posted by: Muh Precious Normz at July 10, 2023 03:41 PM (I+ZWa)

75 I just want to plug Roundhouse jeans, made in USA.
round-house.com
from Oklahoma

Posted by: free tibet at July 10, 2023 03:41 PM (1wtUm)

76
The Judge'a penmanship is worse than mine.
Posted by: JT at July 10, 2023 03:34 PM (T4tVD)

He started off pre-med in college.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 10, 2023 03:41 PM (n+4am)

77 The issue is, who's going to stop Biden? If they continue to do this no one in his private DoJ will do anything. If the Judge holds them in contempt he has no way of enforcing it against the liberals running Biden's corpse around.

It would probably be hard to even hold the social media companies responsible, as even though they are 100% willing partners in this, they'll just claim they were coerced by the government and had no choice.

Posted by: Rbastid at July 10, 2023 03:41 PM (0Zl/+)

78 Why not just come out and say "we favor fascism and child abuse"?
Posted by: Archimedes at July 10, 2023 03:33 PM

Don't worry...in January 2025 we will.

Posted by: The Uniparty at July 10, 2023 03:42 PM (FVJNG)

79 (4) informing social-media companies of threats that threaten the public safety or security of the United States;"
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Ah, there's the rub. They'll claim that conservatives' speech threatens the public safety or security of the United States.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 10, 2023 03:42 PM (YqDXo)

80 And the pigs are not happy.
Posted by: wth at July 10, 2023 03:39 PM (v0R5T)

That Sheila had such soft hands. I'm gonna miss her.

Posted by: Wilbur at July 10, 2023 03:42 PM (4I/2K)

81 A nation of laws says what?

Posted by: Regular joe at July 10, 2023 03:42 PM (nnp+f)

82 "...the ongoing attempt to torpedo The Sound of Freedom"

Did you see CNN trotted out an obscure Rothschild heir to bad talk that film? a) I never heard of him b) who gives a f*ck what he might say?
Posted by: gourmand du jour at July 10, 2023 03:36 PM (MeG8a)

Their following doesn't know who the Rothschilds were for good or ill. They'd have done better to have some Rapper come on.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 10, 2023 03:42 PM (eoQWY)

83 48 Zuck doesn't need any direction from the WH to do what needs to be done.

Neither does Google.
Posted by: Mr Gaga at July 10, 2023 03:37 PM (emrql)

Well considering Facebook and Google are both government projects, and are well staffed with """former""" government employees, direct communication is optional.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at July 10, 2023 03:43 PM (xcxpd)

84 Why not just come out and say "we favor fascism and child abuse"?
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Because making you hear the lie over and over and over and over again is part of how they win.

Posted by: XTC

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Yep. Similar to banning your stove, limiting your travel, restricting your access to air travel, meat, etc. It's not special.

They already know THEY favor facism and the gays / p3d0s / gay p3d0s.

They want you to acknowledge that you favor it, too. That's the kink.

Posted by: Moron Robbie at July 10, 2023 03:43 PM (wqFd7)

85 In the end, their position is fundamentally defiant toward the Court's judgment.
________

Dayyum.

That's gonna leave a mark.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 10, 2023 03:43 PM (lf83v)

86 I just want to plug Roundhouse jeans, made in USA.
round-house.com
from Oklahoma
Posted by: free tibet at July 10, 2023 03:41 PM (1wtUm)
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Hey, I wear dung-arees!

Posted by: President Charlie Foxtrot at July 10, 2023 03:43 PM (krQz2)

87 Zuck doesn't need any direction from the WH to do what needs to be done.

Neither does Google.
Posted by: Mr Gaga at July 10, 2023 03:37 PM (emrql)

In some ways power flows in the other direction: Corporate media giants tell politicians, including those roaches scampering throughout the White House, what to say and do.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 10, 2023 03:43 PM (dGCAG)

88 The left isn't fighting you for the interpretation of that slave owner created document. They don't care what the Constitution says. They're exerting power where they can, because they can.

I'm not saying conservatives should stop wanting to operate within constitutional frameworks, just to acknowledge their enemy does not, and it's a waste of time to continue to act like they do.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 10, 2023 03:39 PM (dGCAG)

Biden openly said he wants 'voters to be heard' on Supreme Court decisions... That would mean we are a Democracy, while the Constitution guarantees a Republican form of Government.

They are not even pretending anymore. The Republic is dead.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 10, 2023 03:43 PM (oHd/0)

89 76
The Judge'a penmanship is worse than mine.
Posted by: JT at July 10, 2023 03:34 PM (T4tVD)

He started off pre-med in college.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 10, 2023 03:41 PM (n+4am)

Could be a studder you know...

Posted by: Uncle fingerbang at July 10, 2023 03:43 PM (53oGX)

90 I can no longer summon the fucks to give a crap about this stuff anymore.

Nothing will happen. No one will be charged, or tried or thrown into prison.

Unless it's me.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 10, 2023 03:43 PM (36mDg)

91 Zuck doesn't need any direction from the WH to do what needs to be done.

Neither does Google.

People keep saying shit like this, despite the fact that the evidence shows they are in fact receiving this direction.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at July 10, 2023 03:44 PM (ppBhU)

92 Did you see CNN trotted out an obscure Rothschild heir

--

Gosh, what a complete coincidence.

Posted by: Moron Robbie at July 10, 2023 03:44 PM (wqFd7)

93 In the end, their position is fundamentally defiant toward the Court's judgment.
---
How many of them army guys does that judge have?!

Posted by: President Charlie Foxtrot at July 10, 2023 03:44 PM (krQz2)

94 But, as the state AGs said -- the Rogue Government is "in defiance" against the order. They will probably continue breaking the law.

At some point, can't state LEOs arrest and incarcerate these assholes that continue to violate the Rights of We The People?

Don't states have RICO laws or some ersatz mechanisms?

Posted by: Reuben Hick at July 10, 2023 03:44 PM (p8A+W)

95 54 No Stairway?
Posted by: Wayne Biden at July 10, 2023 03:37 PM (7YrZ7)

There's a lady who knows
all that glitters is gold...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at July 10, 2023 03:44 PM (xcxpd)

96 >>The Junta will keep doing regardless of what the courts say.

Well they won't be doing it with Twitter.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 10, 2023 03:44 PM (ZLI7S)

97 The ball-gag symbolism of Biden concerning American(s) after that photo of Biden with the strap intentions can never been unseen.

Posted by: Eagle Lips at July 10, 2023 03:44 PM (ETLwz)

98 Instagrams new competitor to Twitter is already carrying out all the prohibited activities that were happening prior to Musk. All the censorship, shadow banning, targeting of conservatives, etc. they did that on their own.
Posted by: Marcus T at July 10, 2023 03:40 PM (kmK04)

Too bad they don't have the clientele Twitter does. And given that they require you to delete Instagram to quit Threads they don't seem confident the will get many.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 10, 2023 03:45 PM (eoQWY)

99 Given there is no penalty attached to it, why would they not just keep working with social media to censor the opposition?

What could the judge do? Hold the entire executive branch or the heads of agencies in contempt?

Impeachment is the only effective enforcement mechanism and the Republicans would not do that even if they held both houses because they hate their base as much as the left hates it.

Posted by: Thatch at July 10, 2023 03:45 PM (R2qGx)

100 when President Kamala hands down the Jan 2025 pardons

Merrick Garland and Lisa Monaco will be in the basket

even the worst of the Nazis had a plan B

didn't always work but a plan B nevertheless

Posted by: BEN WHATSHISNAME at July 10, 2023 03:45 PM (us2H3)

101 Deep State has probably talked Sundowner into being a Dictatorship

Posted by: Skip at July 10, 2023 03:45 PM (xhxe8)

102 I suppose if evidence emerges that the feds are defying the injunction the judge can find them in contempt. A ton of the evidence in this case came directly from the social media companies themselves complying with discovery orders, with the feds having to admit it was real.

Posted by: the dandy at July 10, 2023 03:46 PM (w83EC)

103 "It will be heard by the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals, and then, if Biden loses again, it will be appealed to the Supreme Court."

I think more likely Biden will just ignore the injunction or find a way around it. Losing in the district court is one thing, but if he pushes the issue into higher courts and also loses -- which he should -- it becomes much harder to ignore or work around.

Posted by: Elric Blade at July 10, 2023 03:46 PM (iFTx/)

104 So, government officials are going to have to use their illegal private emails to tell big tech to censor now?

Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 10, 2023 03:46 PM (lTGtQ)

105 The issue is, who's going to stop Biden? If they continue to do this no one in his private DoJ will do anything. If the Judge holds them in contempt he has no way of enforcing it against the liberals running Biden's corpse around.

It would probably be hard to even hold the social media companies responsible, as even though they are 100% willing partners in this, they'll just claim they were coerced by the government and had no choice.

Posted by: Rbastid at July 10, 2023 03:41 PM

I hope everyone here realizes that the biden administration is going to continue to do this regardless of what the judge has ruled and the tech companies will go along with them.

That is inevitable and they don't give a $hit if they get caught doing it 10,000 times. Nothing will happen to them and biden will still get 81,000,000 votes next November.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 10, 2023 03:46 PM (ncXxy)

106 70 Are we sure it's not a tax?

Posted by: Dred SCOTUS Roberts at July 10, 2023 03:38 PM (53oGX)

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"US States and their AGs have no standing! Next?"
Posted by: ShainS -- Semiquincentennial or Bust! at July 10, 2023 03:41 PM (Q+M7t)

It is not the Court's place to second guess the Administration during an Emergency.

Posted by: Judge Roberts at July 10, 2023 03:46 PM (oHd/0)

107 Zuck doesn't need any direction from the WH to do what needs to be done.

Neither does Google.
Posted by: Mr Gaga at July 10, 2023 03:37 PM (emrql)
++++
"Working toward the fuhrer" will continue to function. Not having orders and mandated secrecy associated with those orders will still annoy them, since they will be responsible for the decisions.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 10, 2023 03:46 PM (t0OGg)

108 I never thought I'd see the day where it's apparently controversial to say that the government can't censor political speech it doesn't like. But oh such a fool am I . . . .

Posted by: Elric Blade at July 10, 2023 03:46 PM (iFTx/)

109 It is amazing how the Left would not just say "it is only a movie", when discussing Sound Of Freedom.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at July 10, 2023 03:35 PM (D5l7Y)
__________________

Why say anything at all? If they had any brains, they'd just ignore the movie, even if it grates on them because it's about decency.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 10, 2023 03:46 PM (YqDXo)

110 I'm assuming an op by the FIBs will occur shortly showing what 'can happen' when Mayorkas isn't 'jawboning' the tech companies to take posts down.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 10, 2023 03:47 PM (fs1hN)

111 Blah Blah and I am greatly disappointed by this rogue Judge. I used to feel safe on the internet watching Mannix reruns and playing Mah Jongg but now without the federal government looking out for us I am afraid to get online. Someone may get access to our bank accounts and steal all our money we get each month with Blah Blah's 3 government pensions and social security.

This judge should be ashamed of himself.

Posted by: Harriet And Blah Blah Nyborg, Democrat Boomers at July 10, 2023 03:47 PM (XqIlw)

112 Deep State has probably talked Sundowner into being a Dictatorship
Posted by: Skip at July 10, 2023 03:45 PM (xhxe

---
Joe Biden + Brian Stelter

Total Dick + Tater

Posted by: Axeman at July 10, 2023 03:47 PM (krQz2)

113 They sure do hate that whole freedom of speech thing, don't they.

Posted by: Bill of rights? More like bill of blights! at July 10, 2023 03:47 PM (uoAlb)

114 >>>46 Ace, are you going to give us a Sound Of Freedom review?

at 4:20 i'm posting about the film, though I'm not going to do a review, yet. I'm too bushed. I'll just say it's very good for now.

The theater I was in was 90% full. Only the front row was empty. Almost every other seat was taken.

Posted by: ace at July 10, 2023 03:47 PM (KRtlO)

115 100 when President Kamala hands down the Jan 2025 pardons

Merrick Garland and Lisa Monaco will be in the basket

even the worst of the Nazis had a plan B

didn't always work but a plan B nevertheless
Posted by: BEN WHATSHISNAME at July 10, 2023 03:45 PM (us2H3)

Gotta have Plan-B in case pull-out fails...

Posted by: Diversity Dick-Janitor at July 10, 2023 03:47 PM (53oGX)

116 Meta Threads, a new disease.

Posted by: wth at July 10, 2023 03:48 PM (v0R5T)

117 I think more likely Biden will just ignore the injunction or find a way around it. Losing in the district court is one thing, but if he pushes the issue into higher courts and also loses -- which he should -- it becomes much harder to ignore or work around.
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 10, 2023 03:46 PM (iFTx/)

My read is that that would be part of the point. Display is part of their goal. Demoralization.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at July 10, 2023 03:48 PM (zZu0s)

118
Careful Judge Doughty, they've got F-16 'n shit.

Posted by: Auspex at July 10, 2023 03:48 PM (j4U/Z)

119
"...the ongoing attempt to torpedo The Sound of Freedom"

Did you see CNN trotted out an obscure Rothschild heir to bad talk that film? a) I never heard of him b) who gives a f*ck what he might say?
Posted by: gourmand du jour at July 10, 2023 03:36 PM (MeG8a)

They told me that if I voted for Trump, the Rothschilds would control the country. And they were right!

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 10, 2023 03:48 PM (n+4am)

120 Zuck doesn't need any direction from the WH to do what needs to be done.

Neither does Google.

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People keep saying shit like this, despite the fact that the evidence shows they are in fact receiving this direction.

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Ah yes, the classic "committee" approach. Anyone who has ever been tapped to serve on a committee to decide to incorporate what the boss wants can tell you exactly how it works.

No one is to blame, because the committee determined it was the correct action. The boss was just working off of that information, and the committee had no role in the implementation.

Posted by: Moron Robbie at July 10, 2023 03:49 PM (wqFd7)

121 One of the paid prevaricators was complaining about how this would affect FEMA giving emergency warnings.

You know, because of how you always have to delete somebody else's tweets to give warnings!

Posted by: Axeman at July 10, 2023 03:49 PM (krQz2)

122 BTW,
Winston and I will be hitting our knees at 7pm PST the say the Rosary.

Anyone who wishes to join us is welcome. Just knowing there are others praying together will be comforting and powerful.

Peace be with you.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 10, 2023 03:49 PM (gyhsN)

123 The theater I was in was 90% full. Only the front row was empty. Almost every other seat was taken.

Posted by: ace at July 10, 2023 03:47 PM (KRtlO)

Why even make that the front row? Push it back a bit, asshats. Sure you can squeeze some stupid suckers who want to stare up Tom Cruise's lifts, but the rest of us are not hip to the privilege.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at July 10, 2023 03:49 PM (zZu0s)

124 @67: "Instagrams new competitor to Twitter is already carrying out ..."

Threads is essentially Instagram without the pictures, and no one uses Instagram for the comments. Zuck's always been the safest of the "safe for big brands" tech bros. It'll be fun to see what happens when all the angry journalists and activists finally realize that "text based rage" doesn't move product and won't be allowed on Threads for very long.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at July 10, 2023 03:49 PM (k1Qly)

125 In the name of national security and the harm it could do to the American war effort, the Wilson administration clamped on on any reference or mention in the media to the virulent flu.

Considering how many millions died from the Spanish Influenza I would posit it as prima facia evidence to fetter any government attempt to embargo/censor/suppress any form of Free Speech.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 10, 2023 03:49 PM (22qIH)

126 107 Zuck doesn't need any direction from the WH to do what needs to be done.

Neither does Google.
Posted by: Mr Gaga at July 10, 2023 03:37 PM (emrql)
++++
"Working toward the fuhrer" will continue to function. Not having orders and mandated secrecy associated with those orders will still annoy them, since they will be responsible for the decisions.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 10, 2023 03:46 PM (t0OGg)
______________

Therein lies the rub. FB and Google might just decide it's not worth the trouble to go it all on their own. Twatter resisted the government's most egregious censorship "requests," which suggests even leftwing social media platforms don't have an unlimited appetite for this shit.

Posted by: Elric Blade at July 10, 2023 03:50 PM (iFTx/)

127 >>>You do not appeal to the Supreme Court. You beg it to take review.

I doubt the Supreme Court will hear the appeal if the 5th circuit upholds the injunction. From their POV it's a waste of time to review something that will go away on its own with time unless there is some clear evidence of significant harm, which the Junta has not provided.

Posted by: mikethemoose at July 10, 2023 03:50 PM (aTG5+)

128 49 I can think of three votes for govt censure and one who wants to but doesn't want to take off his mask unless he can be the 5th vote for going full fascist.

Posted by: Bete at July 10, 2023 03:50 PM (PYoBO)

129 Start rounding up the offenders for contempt of court. 30 days in the slammer for each offense.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 10, 2023 03:50 PM (YIVH2)

130 I doubt that Zuckerberg et al. need direction from the junta on what to censor. Do birds get together to plan to fly south? No. They just do it. It's instinctive.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 10, 2023 03:51 PM (YqDXo)

131 But, as the state AGs said -- the Rogue Government is "in defiance" against the order. They will probably continue breaking the law.

Probably?

Posted by: Notorious BFD at July 10, 2023 03:51 PM (Xrfse)

132 I just want to plug Roundhouse jeans, made in USA.
round-house.com
from Oklahoma

Posted by: free tibet

--

My lettuce costs $4 a head because of this company or something!!!

Posted by: Moron Robbie at July 10, 2023 03:51 PM (wqFd7)

133
Hey, McCarthy and the House Republicans will stop the tyranny.

These things take time. Give 'em a year or two.

Posted by: Auspex at July 10, 2023 03:51 PM (j4U/Z)

134 I think more likely Biden will just ignore the injunction or find a way around it. Losing in the district court is one thing, but if he pushes the issue into higher courts and also loses -- which he should -- it becomes much harder to ignore or work around.
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 10, 2023 03:46 PM (iFTx/)

---
Progs always ignore decisions that don't go their way.

I don't recall that any one of Obama's "recess-appointed czars" missed a day of work after the SC told him that he cannot unilaterally decide that the Congress is not in session.

Posted by: Axeman at July 10, 2023 03:52 PM (krQz2)

135 "at 4:20 i'm posting about the film, though I'm not going to do a review, yet. I'm too bushed. I'll just say it's very good for now.

The theater I was in was 90% full. Only the front row was empty. Almost every other seat was taken.

Posted by: ace at July 10, 2023 03:47 PM (KRtlO)"

There is a lot of backstory to that movie and a whole host of people doing God's work for those children.

I hope your post includes a giant fuck you, go light yourselves on fire pedos, to Mike Rothschild, Rolling Stone and The Guardian

Posted by: Marcus T at July 10, 2023 03:52 PM (kmK04)

136 They told me that if I voted for Trump, the Rothschilds would control the country. And they were right!
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 10, 2023 03:48 PM (n+4am)

There was a meme from a couple years ago, an astronaut looking back at Earth, says something like "It was [fill in the blank] all along." A second astronaut stands behind him with a gun pointed at the first's head, says "Always was."

I think that's the wording. Anyhoo, yeah, put "The Rothschilds" in the brackets. That's our world.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 10, 2023 03:52 PM (dGCAG)

137 I doubt that Zuckerberg et al. need direction from the junta on what to censor. Do birds get together to plan to fly south? No. They just do it. It's instinctive.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

Zuckerberg has already spent millions on ballot harvesting for the 2024 election.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 10, 2023 03:52 PM (lTGtQ)

138 At some point, can't state LEOs arrest and incarcerate these assholes that continue to violate the Rights of We The People?

Don't states have RICO laws or some ersatz mechanisms?
Posted by: Reuben Hick at July 10, 2023 03:44 PM (p8A+W)

Would seem a State Constitutional right violation, could be heard in State Court. Now, usually Sovereign Immunity would mean you could not go after Federal Employees... but.. there if it is a Felony, then Sov Immunity is not supposed to be in effect.

This is like if an FBI agent murdered someone in a State. State CAN bring charges, even if its in the 'line of duty'.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 10, 2023 03:53 PM (oHd/0)

139 If Zuck doesn't need the government to tell him what to do know how come he has for the last 5 years?

And why is the Biden administration pushing to keep the practice alive when it is so obviously unconstitutional?

Posted by: JackStraw at July 10, 2023 03:53 PM (ZLI7S)

140 Therein lies the rub. FB and Google might just decide it's not worth the trouble to go it all on their own. Twatter resisted the government's most egregious censorship "requests," which suggests even leftwing social media platforms don't have an unlimited appetite for this shit.
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 10, 2023 03:50 PM (iFTx/)
++++
Yeah. Time will tell.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 10, 2023 03:53 PM (t0OGg)

141 I am waiting for the Supreme Court to tell the Biden admin. "you have no standing".

Posted by: Random Moron at July 10, 2023 03:53 PM (RilAR)

142 You notice how Tyler Cowan (1) defended the conduct of old Twitter when Musk was releasing the Twitter Files and (2) now says he doesn't see how this order 'can stand'. In case you wanted to know what faculty libertarianism is in our time.

Posted by: Art Deco at July 10, 2023 03:53 PM (SHrUD)

143 @126: "FB and Google might just decide it's not worth the trouble ..."

Yeah. I'd say don't underestimate how easy it was for FB and Google to comply when feds were constantly uploading specific links and general talking points that needed to be suppressed. It was an automated system and government was doing the heavy lifting for them. Not so easy or beneficial for big tech when they've gotta shoulder the manpower and blowback on their own.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at July 10, 2023 03:54 PM (k1Qly)

144 141 Might be a long wait!

Posted by: Random Moron at July 10, 2023 03:54 PM (RilAR)

145 Here's a moment of levity --- AO(Tax The Rich)C has NY state after her deadbeat tax avoiding scalp (via Daily Caller) :

New York state has hit Democratic New York Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez with fines for dodging tax warrants filed against her former business five years ago.

The state filed a tax warrant against Brook Avenue Press -- a children-oriented publishing house Ocasio-Cortez founded in 2012 -- on July 6, 2017, to collect $1,618 in unpaid corporate taxes, the Washington Examiner reported. The tax warrant has increased 52% to cost $2,461 due to the representative not paying the taxes.

https://tinyurl.com/5dy9x7kp

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 10, 2023 03:54 PM (zHuJr)

146 The lies, the slander, and the freak out from Hollywood and the media about Sound of Freedom proves in my mind there are still many Harvey Weinsteins or Epsteins out there afraid of being found out.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 10, 2023 03:54 PM (22qIH)

147 137 I doubt that Zuckerberg et al. need direction from the junta on what to censor. Do birds get together to plan to fly south? No. They just do it. It's instinctive.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

Zuckerberg has already spent millions on ballot harvesting for the 2024 election.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 10, 2023 03:52 PM (lTGtQ)

Tucker asked Musk why Zuck could not be more equal, like Musk made Twitter. Musk reply? Why do you think someone who spent hundreds of millions of dollars to put his thumb on an election, NOT be biased.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 10, 2023 03:54 PM (oHd/0)

148 injunction injunction, what's your function? Hooking up censors and social media sites.

Posted by: WisRich at July 10, 2023 03:55 PM (G0vdT)

149 Regal App allows you to stream movies that are in the theater and has a collection as well. It's like 23 bucks a month for those whose theaters may be too boisterous, loud, and vibrant.

Posted by: Eagle Lips at July 10, 2023 03:55 PM (ETLwz)

150
even the worst of the Nazis had a plan B

didn't always work but a plan B nevertheless
Posted by: BEN WHATSHISNAME at July 10, 2023 03:45 PM (us2H3)

Which was the major plot point of Sisu. The gold McGuffin was the SS officer's ticket to survival in exile, because he knew perfectly well that the war was lost.

Beware of crusty old fuckers with nothing to lose.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 10, 2023 03:55 PM (n+4am)

151 Sigh. In the '80s I would read or hear about some example of the USSR enforcing only government approved speech in newspapers etc and think how awful for the ordinary folks living there.

Now I wonder if Russians read stories about the CDC demanding censorship of any posts criticizing the clot shot and feel sorry for ordinary americans.

Posted by: PaleRider at July 10, 2023 03:55 PM (3cGpq)

152 Leftism is a mind melt, somehow they all know what to do to drive Leftism

Posted by: Skip at July 10, 2023 03:56 PM (xhxe8)

153 Plan B or Zyklon B

Is there a difference?

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 10, 2023 03:56 PM (22qIH)

154 And now, a word from the pResident . . .

President Biden
@POTUS
Bidenomics is just another way of saying "restoring the American Dream."

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at July 10, 2023 03:56 PM (FVME7)

155 Now I wonder if Russians read stories about the CDC demanding censorship of any posts criticizing the clot shot and feel sorry for ordinary Americans.

Posted by: PaleRider at July 10, 2023 03:55 PM (3cGpq)
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On Twitter, I've seen former Maoists wondering WTF is going on in America.

Posted by: Axeman at July 10, 2023 03:57 PM (krQz2)

156 "The lies, the slander, and the freak out from Hollywood and the media about Sound of Freedom proves in my mind there are still many Harvey Weinsteins or Epsteins out there afraid of being found out.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 10, 2023 03:54 PM (22qIH)"

More than anyone realizes. It's deep and endemic to that world of perverted people. They are sick assholes who need to be lit on fire and thrown down a set of metal fire stairs

Posted by: Marcus T at July 10, 2023 03:57 PM (kmK04)

157 Bidenomics - synonym for Joeflation.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 10, 2023 03:57 PM (22qIH)

158
They will probably continue breaking the law.

Posted by: Lamont the Big Dummy at 03:27 PM

Probably? Probably?

If the US government doesn't continue wantonly, brazenly violating the spirit & letter of every single law, you should check around outside your house. See if dogs are mating with cats. See if the sky is yellow. See if the moon is bleeding. That sort of thing.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 10, 2023 03:57 PM (oINRc)

159 75 I just want to plug Roundhouse jeans, made in USA.
round-house.com
from Oklahoma
Posted by: free tibet at July 10, 2023 03:41 PM (1wtUm)

Good price, are they durable as work pants?

Posted by: clutch at July 10, 2023 03:58 PM (9UmRs)

160 Now I wonder if Russians read stories about the CDC demanding censorship of any posts criticizing the clot shot and feel sorry for ordinary Americans.

--

Remember reading articles about people in dictatorships needing to read newspapers written in other countries to learn what was happening where they lived?

Posted by: Moron Robbie at July 10, 2023 03:58 PM (wqFd7)

161 This is like if an FBI agent murdered someone in a State. State CAN bring charges, even if its in the 'line of duty'.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 10, 2023 03:53 PM (oHd/0)

Avenge me....cried the souls of the Weaver Ranch and Branch Dividians...

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 10, 2023 03:59 PM (YRsIm)

162 President Biden
@POTUS
Bidenomics is just another way of saying "restoring the American Dream."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at July 10, 2023 03:56 PM (FVME7)

Because 10% inflation with a 1.3% GDP growth.. ie paying more for less stuff.. is restoring America...

To the Great Depression.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 10, 2023 03:59 PM (oHd/0)

163 Tucker asked Musk why Zuck could not be more equal, like Musk made Twitter. Musk reply? Why do you think someone who spent hundreds of millions of dollars to put his thumb on an election, NOT be biased.

Posted by: Romeo13

Right now, he is creating voters for 2024.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 10, 2023 03:59 PM (lTGtQ)

164 155 On Twitter, I've seen former Maoists wondering WTF is going on in America.
Posted by: Axeman at July 10, 2023 03:57 PM (krQz2)

That's why they're FORMER Maoists.

The current Twitter Maoists are all Troons between the ages of 16 and 30.

Posted by: XTC at July 10, 2023 03:59 PM (UnA8+)

165 What are you people talking about?!

We WON that case?

The courts said it was cool for us to do this.

And let me just warn you about spreading misinformation about this case on social media.

Posted by: President Charlie Foxtrot at July 10, 2023 04:00 PM (krQz2)

166 How many divisions does Judge Doughty have?

Posted by: The Junta, looking Soviet at July 10, 2023 04:00 PM (7eWS7)

167 Oh well back to the model building. Whee.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 10, 2023 04:00 PM (22qIH)

168 If the US government doesn't continue wantonly, brazenly violating the spirit & letter of every single law, you should check around outside your house. See if dogs are mating with cats. See if the sky is yellow. See if the moon is bleeding. That sort of thing.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 10, 2023 03:57 PM (oINRc)

Dogs and Cats, living in SIN?

Posted by: Ray Vinkman at July 10, 2023 04:00 PM (oHd/0)

169 President Biden
@POTUS
Bidenomics is just another way of saying "restoring the American Dream."

--

(looks at doubled food prices since Trump was removed from office)

(looks at 50% real inflation on goods and services people routinely purchase, year after year, since 2021)

(Does quick math on life savings)

Posted by: Moron Robbie at July 10, 2023 04:00 PM (wqFd7)

170 Social media will never, ever, ever be your friend. It's time to learn that lesson.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 10, 2023 04:01 PM (p+1gI)

171 Dogs and Cats, living in SIN?
Posted by: Ray Vinkman at July 10, 2023 04:00 PM

Mass hysteria!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 10, 2023 04:01 PM (FVJNG)

172 Durham was basically correct in his report that the FBI misbehavior didn't call for a new process. The government was breaking rules to push Russia collusion nonsense, and wouldn't follow rules just because of a new or altered process.

Not implying Durham wasn't protecting the establishment. Just pointing out he was correct.

Posted by: Don at July 10, 2023 04:02 PM (Q7knO)

173 161 Avenge me....cried the souls of the Weaver Ranch and Branch Dividians...
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 10, 2023 03:59 PM (YRsIm)

Lon Horiuchi, looking up from his line of cocaine to give a slow middle finger to them...

Posted by: XTC at July 10, 2023 04:02 PM (UnA8+)

174 153 Plan B or Zyklon B

Is there a difference?
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 10, 2023 03:56 PM (22qIH)

Not to me!

Posted by: Zygote at July 10, 2023 04:02 PM (53oGX)

175 Posted by: Art Deco at July 10, 2023 03:53 PM (SHrUD)

Tyler Cowen of the Mercatus Center? Before anyone can agree with you, first you have to identify who you are talking about and why it is important to know this. Otherwise you are yelling at a random name in the phone book.

"I hate Navin Johnson"

Posted by: Kindltot at July 10, 2023 04:02 PM (xhaym)

176 Mike Rothschild has been the P3do Media attack dog against Q and Anons since 2018.
I guess Mass Media just went full YOLO brainwashing and MKUltraing children and adults to turn into LGBTQP after 🍕 gate and the luckiest shot in the world hitting the Comet's hard drive.

Posted by: Eagle Lips at July 10, 2023 04:02 PM (ETLwz)

177 If the US government doesn't continue wantonly, brazenly violating the spirit & letter of every single law, you should check around outside your house. See if dogs are mating with cats. See if the sky is yellow. See if the moon is bleeding. That sort of thing.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 10, 2023 03:57 PM (oINRc)
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Does cheese bleed???

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 10, 2023 04:02 PM (t0OGg)

178 10 Anyway, this is nice, but the CIA is gonna do what the CIA has always done: ignore the law.
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The FBI and NSA say hold my beer.

Posted by: Pudinhead at July 10, 2023 04:03 PM (bA3Ln)

179 The judge is saying, quite correctly, that the government's insistence on maintaining these powers is in itself evidence they intend to abuse them.

They keep demanding the power, then give wishy washy answers to why they need it.

Posted by: Comrade Roboto at July 10, 2023 04:03 PM (nJ1bF)

180 President Biden
@POTUS
Bidenomics is just another way of saying "restoring the American Dream."

--

(looks at doubled food prices since Trump was removed from office)

(looks at 50% real inflation on goods and services people routinely purchase, year after year, since 2021)

(Does quick math on life savings)

Posted by: Moron Robbie at July 10, 2023 04:00 PM

Eggs are up by over 50% since trump left office after the bird flu stuff got sorted out. They have never come back down to even close to what we had before biden. Eggs at Walmart yesterday were $1.62 a dozen, they were 89 cents a dozen in November 2020.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 10, 2023 04:03 PM (ncXxy)

181 Does cheese bleed???
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Only if you don't wash it off regularly.

Posted by: Pudinhead at July 10, 2023 04:04 PM (bA3Ln)

182
Not implying Durham wasn't protecting the establishment. Just pointing out he was correct.
Posted by: Don at July 10, 2023 04:02 PM (Q7knO)
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Agree. Actually what he said implies far worse than the press takes it.

Posted by: Axeman at July 10, 2023 04:04 PM (krQz2)

183 The entertainment industry is home to at least 2 big vices, one of which has now been deemed virtuous, the other has hopes to become so in the future.

Pride and pedos.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at July 10, 2023 04:04 PM (MeG8a)

184 Eggs are up by over 50% since trump left office after the bird flu stuff got sorted out. They have never come back down to even close to what we had before biden. Eggs at Walmart yesterday were $1.62 a dozen, they were 89 cents a dozen in November 2020.
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Butter is up 62% since Biden Put Us Back In Chains.

Posted by: Pudinhead at July 10, 2023 04:04 PM (bA3Ln)

185 Agree. Actually what he said implies far worse than the press takes it.
Posted by: Axeman at July 10, 2023 04:04 PM (krQz2)
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But that's it. Implication.

Investigate. Implicate. Ignore.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 10, 2023 04:04 PM (t0OGg)

186 158
They will probably continue breaking the law.

Posted by: Lamont the Big Dummy at 03:27 PM

Probably? Probably?

If the US government doesn't continue wantonly, brazenly violating the spirit & letter of every single law, you should check around outside your house. See if dogs are mating with cats. See if the sky is yellow. See if the moon is bleeding. That sort of thing.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 10, 2023 03:57 PM (oINRc)

Thats a big twinkie.

Posted by: W Zeddmore at July 10, 2023 04:05 PM (53oGX)

187 180 Eggs are up by over 50% since trump left office after the bird flu stuff got sorted out. They have never come back down to even close to what we had before biden. Eggs at Walmart yesterday were $1.62 a dozen, they were 89 cents a dozen in November 2020.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 10, 2023 04:03 PM (ncXxy)

The Elites' "American Dream" is that none of you can afford jack shit so that they can have it all to themselves.

They can have the biggest carbon footprint in the universe if nobody else can have one at all.

Posted by: XTC at July 10, 2023 04:06 PM (UnA8+)

188 I'm dumbfounded by people. Anyone alive from the 1970s, or even the 1990s, can see what the economy is like under liberals versus conservatives. Every year that the leftists are in charge, all we hear about from the so called press is "Things are not as bad as you feel".

Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 10, 2023 04:06 PM (lTGtQ)

189 Alright, so I drove. The doctor recommended to not drive for 12 hours. I waited a grad 4 (Dolley hadn't taken today off, and she had missed too much to run off and pick up Junior from his summer camp, so she asked if I could do it).

I've come to the conclusion that the smudgy vision is because of glare on lights, and I'm otherwise fine. Helped by the fact that it's overcast and I worse sunglasses, it was like driving like normal.

Hot damn. Life changing.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 10, 2023 04:06 PM (LvTSG)

190 Yes. And maybe the people that knew they needed to find alternative news sources were a minority in the old USSR and Maoist China, and various dictatorships even though the novels I've read alway gave the impression that almost everyone knew the state media were lying to them.

That is the distressing thing to me. It 'feels' like less than 1/3 of this country knows that they are being fed lies. Most folks think that media are independent since there is no overt full state control of ABC, Facebook, the NYT, etc.

Posted by: PaleRider at July 10, 2023 04:06 PM (3cGpq)

191 Durham's point is: who is going to make an executive branch that is ignoring the law obey it?

Only a recommitment to the Llaw can fix this.

Posted by: Axeman at July 10, 2023 04:06 PM (krQz2)

192 They will probably continue breaking the law.

Of course, because there's absolutely no actual consequences for doing so.

Posted by: No Shirt Shylock at July 10, 2023 04:07 PM (PWI4f)

193 191 Only a recommitment to the Llaw can fix this.
Posted by: Axeman at July 10, 2023 04:06 PM (krQz2)

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But power!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 10, 2023 04:07 PM (LvTSG)

194 "The lies, the slander, and the freak out from Hollywood and the media about Sound of Freedom proves in my mind there are still many Harvey Weinsteins or Epsteins out there afraid of being found out.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 10, 2023 03:54 PM (22qIH)"
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It's hard NOT to draw that conclusion. Why else are the leftists so emotionally invested in trashing a film that opposes child sex trafficking?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 10, 2023 04:07 PM (YqDXo)

195 Let's say this bullshit goes to the Supreme Court... whose names are on the case as Plaintiff and Defendant? Joseph Robinette Biden et Cronies v. Literally Everyone Else In America?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 10, 2023 04:07 PM (9UlRk)

196 @POTUS
Bidenomics is just another way of saying "restoring the American Dream."

Isn't that clever. Defining a brand by lying about its resemblance to another brand.

Someone should request: Give us a few examples of the American Dream.

We know what Bidenomics is: Depraved, Sadistic Machiavellian tyranny to plunder the private sector in favor of the occupying force in Babylon DC.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at July 10, 2023 04:08 PM (p8A+W)

197 190 That is the distressing thing to me. It 'feels' like less than 1/3 of this country knows that they are being fed lies. Most folks think that media are independent since there is no overt full state control of ABC, Facebook, the NYT, etc.
Posted by: PaleRider at July 10, 2023 04:06 PM (3cGpq)

I disagree, to an extent.

I think they know.

But they WANT the lies. They're comforting to them.

The sort of people who vote Democrat because they want the Papers and the TV News shows to be more pleasant.

Posted by: XTC at July 10, 2023 04:08 PM (UnA8+)

198 Bidenomics is just another way of saying "restoring the American Dream.
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(Or the only form of the American Dream you're allowed to have).

Posted by: Axeman at July 10, 2023 04:09 PM (krQz2)

199 180 I maintain a couple plastic totes with the hard to get stuff from the covid insanity. TP is about doubled. Common uncoated aspirin tripled. Disinfectant spray doubled. Rubbing alcohol, doubled. Bear in mind some peaked out higher but now are leveled out. They will never go down.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 10, 2023 04:09 PM (rLD7a)

200 It's hard NOT to draw that conclusion. Why else are the leftists so emotionally invested in trashing a film that opposes child sex trafficking?
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They need Manhattan cash to make movies. Manhattan needs to be put down.

Posted by: Pudinhead at July 10, 2023 04:09 PM (bA3Ln)

201 Of course, because there's absolutely no actual consequences for doing so.

As Al Gore said when confronted with all of their corruption and fraud: "There is no controlling legal authority"

Posted by: Reuben Hick at July 10, 2023 04:10 PM (p8A+W)

202 Bidenomics is just another way of saying "restoring the American Dream."
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Any other versions are disinformation, and you're destroying democracy!

Posted by: Axeman at July 10, 2023 04:10 PM (krQz2)

203 I'm dumbfounded by people. Anyone alive from the 1970s, or even the 1990s, can see what the economy is like under liberals versus conservatives. Every year that the leftists are in charge, all we hear about from the so called press is "Things are not as bad as you feel".
Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 10, 2023 04:06 PM (lTGtQ)
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It's like leftists claiming that people are upset about the perception of crime, implying that crime is not in fact a huge problem.

We can SEE that crime is a huge problem, and that the economy is in the crapper with rampant inflation and shortages.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 10, 2023 04:10 PM (YqDXo)

204
What lies and slander re: SoF movie?

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 10, 2023 04:11 PM (oINRc)

205 >>@POTUS
Bidenomics is just another way of saying "restoring the American Dream."

If that dream is the average household Nightmare from the Carter Administration...

Nailed It.

Posted by: garrett at July 10, 2023 04:11 PM (Q0RNV)

206 The left isn't fighting you for the interpretation of that slave owner created document. They don't care what the Constitution says. They're exerting power where they can, because they can.

I'm not saying conservatives should stop wanting to operate within constitutional frameworks, just to acknowledge their enemy does not, and it's a waste of time to continue to act like they do.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 10, 2023 03:39 PM (dGCAG)

fun fact, not all of the signers owned slaves and several states outlawed slaveholding. Also, slave and slavery does not appear in the constitution.
It was interpreted to refer to such, but it does not.

If you want to disown the Constitution, find a reason or do it as a form of will to power, but saying "some old dead men secretly intended to do something but were too chicken to write it down" as a justification is not a real argument.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 10, 2023 04:11 PM (xhaym)

207 I've been too busy to comment earlier but I feel compelled to comment on Joe Walsh.
If Biden is his idea of normal someone needs to dig out his basement.
Goodbye.

Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at July 10, 2023 04:11 PM (o2BvK)

208 Where have you gone Soup Line Montage?

Our Nation turns its lonely eyes to you.

Posted by: garrett at July 10, 2023 04:12 PM (Q0RNV)

209 155 On Twitter, I've seen former Maoists wondering WTF is going on in America.
Posted by: Axeman at July 10, 2023 03:57 PM (krQz2)

It's like we defeated them abroad, but a 5th column of them infiltrated at home.

Oh, wait.....

Posted by: Curmudgeon at July 10, 2023 04:12 PM (D5l7Y)

210 Does cheese bleed???
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 10, 2023 04:02 PM (t0OGg)

In a whey

Posted by: Kindltot at July 10, 2023 04:13 PM (xhaym)

211 They need Manhattan cash to make movies. Manhattan needs to be put down.

Posted by: Pudinhead

Unless NYC gets a bailout, that ship has sailed. Too many top earners have left - the tax base is gone. I recall that less than 1,000 wealthy people in NYC were paying about half of the taxes.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 10, 2023 04:13 PM (lTGtQ)

212 If you want to disown the Constitution, find a reason or do it as a form of will to power, but saying "some old dead men secretly intended to do something but were too chicken to write it down" as a justification is not a real argument.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 10, 2023 04:11 PM (xhaym)
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The left has never needed—nor used—"real arguments".

They probably wouldn't know what to do with them.

Posted by: Axeman at July 10, 2023 04:13 PM (krQz2)

213 >>If you want to disown the Constitution, find a reason or do it as a form of will to power, but saying "some old dead men secretly intended to do something but were too chicken to write it down" as a justification is not a real argument.

Shorter: Slaves weren't People. Slaves were Property.
Reads a whole lot more clear when you give that a nod.

Posted by: garrett at July 10, 2023 04:13 PM (Q0RNV)

214 The Biden headed US government is an ongoing RICO.

Posted by: uniparty, Raping and Mutilating the Children They Don't Kill at July 10, 2023 04:14 PM (0q+t6)

215 Bidenomics is just another way of saying "restoring the American Dream."

--

The first time in my adult lifetime that I've watched and listened to normal Americans talking about having to struggle a little bit to feed their teenagers.

Posted by: Moron Robbie at July 10, 2023 04:14 PM (wqFd7)

216 Where have you gone Soup Line Montage?

Our Nation turns its lonely eyes to you.
Posted by: garrett at July 10, 2023 04:12 PM (Q0RNV)

Back in the Before Times when Bernie was a thing and he said some shit about bread lines being a good thing, i made a shoop of an old depression era bread line with the caption "MAKE AMERICA WAIT AGAIN".

It got a decent number of likes on reddit.

That was my sole foray into what is apparently called Social Media.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 10, 2023 04:14 PM (9UlRk)

217 59 If you can't go Full Ministry of Truth, you can always go Full Pedo, Child Sex Trafficking, and Child Mutilation.

war is peace
freedom is slavery
ignorance is strength
love is love

Posted by: minilove at July 10, 2023 04:14 PM (v3pYe)

218 Does cheese bleed???
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 10, 2023 04:02 PM (t0OGg)

In a whey
Posted by: Kindltot at July 10, 2023 04:13 PM (xhaym)
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That pun makes you a Muenster!

Posted by: Axeman at July 10, 2023 04:15 PM (krQz2)

219 Angry Joe will probably Stump the Dummy and scream profanities at some staffers over this.

Posted by: Grape Juice Plus at July 10, 2023 04:15 PM (ufJfM)

220 >> "MAKE AMERICA WAIT AGAIN".

Proofing you have talent.

Posted by: garrett at July 10, 2023 04:15 PM (Q0RNV)

221 199 180 I maintain a couple plastic totes with the hard to get stuff from the covid insanity. TP is about doubled. Common uncoated aspirin tripled. Disinfectant spray doubled. Rubbing alcohol, doubled. Bear in mind some peaked out higher but now are leveled out. They will never go down.

good list Bill get 12percent food grade hydrogen peroxide, and amoxycillin if you can

Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 10, 2023 04:15 PM (AcWfM)

222 Bidenomics is just another way of saying "restoring the American Dream.
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(Or the only form of the American Dream you're allowed to have).

I'm pretty sure that only the psychopath sadists in Babylon DC "dream" of banning gas stoves, forcing even more people to max out credit cards, draw down on retirement savings, give up ever owning a home, an operational car, an education, a performing investment portfolio...

Posted by: Reuben Hick at July 10, 2023 04:16 PM (p8A+W)

223 "At some point, can't state LEOs arrest and incarcerate these assholes that continue to violate the Rights of We The People?"

Morally, yes. Technically also legally, but I think that's more a common law thing, and might be hard arguing in court.

And We The People also have an obligation to disobey any of the law, orders, and diktats handed down by these illegitimate authorities.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at July 10, 2023 04:16 PM (ou9hh)

224 The first time in my adult lifetime that I've watched and listened to normal Americans talking about having to struggle a little bit to feed their teenagers.

Posted by: Moron Robbie at July

Wait until they get their homeowners insurance bill for this year.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 10, 2023 04:16 PM (lTGtQ)

225 190 That is the distressing thing to me. It 'feels' like less than 1/3 of this country knows that they are being fed lies. Most folks think that media are independent since there is no overt full state control of ABC, Facebook, the NYT, etc.
Posted by: PaleRider at July 10, 2023 04:06 PM (3cGpq)

I disagree, to an extent.

I think they know.

But they WANT the lies. They're comforting to them.

The sort of people who vote Democrat because they want the Papers and the TV News shows to be more pleasant.
Posted by: XTC at July 10, 2023 04:08 PM (UnA8+)
_____________

I've watched the "Deutsche Wochenschau," a short film reporting (sorta) the Nazis' progress in the war that week. Everything was great, our glorious troops are moving from victory to victory, vanquishing the Third Reich's enemies, etc., laughing and smiling as they do so.

I'd love to see the later ones produced by the time it was becoming obvious that the Nazis were losing the war. Maybe they just stopped producing them.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 10, 2023 04:16 PM (YqDXo)

226 The first time in my adult lifetime that I've watched and listened to normal Americans talking about having to struggle a little bit to feed their teenagers.

struggling quite a lot actually! made them get jobs in food service so they can eat on the job and take home leftover food

Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 10, 2023 04:16 PM (AcWfM)

227 Sigh. In the '80s I would read or hear about some example of the USSR enforcing only government approved speech in newspapers etc and think how awful for the ordinary folks living there.

Now I wonder if Russians read stories about the CDC demanding censorship of any posts criticizing the clot shot and feel sorry for ordinary americans.
Posted by: PaleRider at July 10, 2023 03:55 PM (3cGpq)

I remember one of Putin's press conferences a few years before the war and he was giving examples about how increasingly the US was acting like the USSR used to...and he didn't seem happy about it.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 10, 2023 04:17 PM (eoQWY)

228 Anything Sundowner says is a dream from his mush brain

Posted by: Skip at July 10, 2023 04:17 PM (xhxe8)

229 "Starvation is just another word for the things we do together."

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 10, 2023 04:17 PM (9UlRk)

230 The notion that they are looking to Tax Unrealized Gains as Income should be enough to show you the contempt they have for you and their desire to see you improve your station.

Posted by: garrett at July 10, 2023 04:17 PM (Q0RNV)

231 What lies and slander re: SoF movie?
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 10, 2023 04:11 PM (oINRc)
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It's a movie for QAnon conspiracy addicts.

Posted by: Axeman at July 10, 2023 04:17 PM (krQz2)

232 Given that social media will eagerly silence material which is inconvenient to the regime, the court's ruling will be nominal at best. Facebook, Twitter, Youtube, etc. will go right on doing what they do. As they have set out for the same destination, their oars row in the same direction.

Posted by: Thrillary Binton at July 10, 2023 04:17 PM (5QCXN)

233

Ha! Jimmah Cahtah! 142 days in hospice and counting!

Joey might need him to do HIS eulogy, like he did for good 'ol Jerry Ford! (spits)

Posted by: Auspex at July 10, 2023 04:18 PM (j4U/Z)

234 That judge is one brave MoFo. I hope he has various documented statements about what a positive mental attitude he has, and his general optimism for the future. Also the one about how he didn't kill himself.
Arkancide, it's a BEOTCH.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at July 10, 2023 04:18 PM (7Fj9P)

235 fun fact, not all of the signers owned slaves and several states outlawed slaveholding. Also, slave and slavery does not appear in the constitution.
It was interpreted to refer to such, but it does not.
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Please recall, that as Christians, slaves and the trading in slaves are not a sin. Slave is an economic station not morality. Morality is measured in the choices you make with regard to others and yourself. The Crazy Quakers decided they were Jesus and as a result killed the largest percentage of Americans in a war to allegedly free the slaves. What they accomplished was to enslave the South for a century or more. Very, very moral people, rite? Some might recognize them as Caine.

Posted by: Pudinhead at July 10, 2023 04:18 PM (bA3Ln)

236 war is peace
freedom is slavery
ignorance is strength
love is love
Posted by: minilove at July 10, 2023 04:14 PM (v3pYe)

And perversion is perversion.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 10, 2023 04:18 PM (YqDXo)

237 FBI Wray will testify to tthe House this week. He'll be asked pointed questions about the injunction and what he's doing to to have the FBI comply with an order that's currently in effect. Wrong answers will be grounds for impeachment. He can't duck with "ongoing investigation."

The complaint here looks like that for a RICO case. Lots of defendants and a overarching scheme. Discovery will get into who's pulling the strings.

Developing ....

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 10, 2023 04:19 PM (RqMSv)

238 The notion that they are looking to Tax Unrealized Gains as Income should be enough to show you the contempt they have for you and their desire to see you improve your station.

Posted by: garrett

Between that case, which is on the SC docket this fall, and the Chevron case, also in the fall, I can see why the deep state wants Thomas' head.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 10, 2023 04:19 PM (lTGtQ)

239 This busty blonde in short shorts remembers a time before the Bidenomics nightmare:
https://is.gd/u2er9V

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 10, 2023 04:20 PM (t0OGg)

240 The Southern Butthurt Rides Again.

Posted by: garrett at July 10, 2023 04:20 PM (Q0RNV)

241 The Observer, 11/2/20, Big Tech and CEOs Poured Millions Into The Election. Here’s Who They Supported.

(The intro) After years of cordial but largely distant relations between Washington, DC and the tech industry, controversial business tactics, accusations of bias, and activism during the Black Lives Matter movement have put giants of Silicon Valley have become front and center in American politics.
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Worth a look, especially as the article was published just days before the 2020 presidential election & the top recipients were Joe Biden & Democratic Super Pacs.

Rico = Federal Law but some states have adopted statutes.

Posted by: L - Practice makes perfect. They know their enemies. at July 10, 2023 04:20 PM (GshMh)

242 struggling quite a lot actually! made them get jobs in food service so they can eat on the job and take home leftover food

Posted by: at July 10, 2023 04:16 PM (AcWfM)

--

{BlackOrchid}

It's funny to think that under Trump I had sat down and worked out some back of the napkin estimates and figured I'd be able to retire, see the U.S. in an RV, and surprise each of my children with a million dollars after we'd passed away.

Now I don't know if I'll be able to afford to make it through retirement.

"American Dream"

Posted by: Moron Robbie at July 10, 2023 04:20 PM (wqFd7)

243 FBI Wray will testify to tthe House this week. He'll be asked pointed questions about the injunction and what he's doing to to have the FBI comply with an order that's currently in effect.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 10, 2023 04:19 PM (RqMSv)
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*looks at watch*

You know I've really got this whole weekend vacation planned out with my family...

Posted by: Director Christopher Wray at July 10, 2023 04:21 PM (krQz2)

244 In the cases in question not only was the government objectively wrong in claiming people were stating "misinformation", the government was *lying* and censoring people for pointing out the government's viewpoint was a *lie*.

Not just wrong. We know that they knew it was false at the time they were claiming it.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 10, 2023 04:21 PM (lc5cP)

245 Joe Walsh is a fucktard

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at July 10, 2023 04:21 PM (sJHOI)

246 The Afternoon Arterton is testing TJM's vision from afar:

https://is.gd/F9oyfl

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 10, 2023 04:21 PM (LvTSG)

247
Between that case, which is on the SC docket this fall, and the Chevron case, also in the fall, I can see why the deep state wants Thomas' head.
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Let's do Thunder Dome. Obama and Thomas in a cage match. Only one man walks out. Obama has to wear a Tranny bathing suit with crocs and Thomas gets wear something manly with Stompy Boots. Game?

Posted by: Pudinhead at July 10, 2023 04:21 PM (bA3Ln)

248 *looks at watch*

You know I've really got this whole weekend vacation planned out with my family...
Posted by: Director Christopher Wray at July 10, 2023 04:21 PM (krQz2)
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Yup.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 10, 2023 04:22 PM (t0OGg)

249 Is it true the inflation bill increased the Congress' salary package to include expenses, like rent and food? How did we miss this if so? They are completely detached from the people now.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at July 10, 2023 04:22 PM (oWBc3)

250 243 *looks at watch*

You know I've really got this whole weekend vacation planned out with my family...
Posted by: Director Christopher Wray at July 10, 2023 04:21 PM (krQz2)

=====

"It didn't matter. We can get you the same information in an angry letter. Have a great weekend!"
-Conservative warrior par excellence, Kevin McCarthy

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 10, 2023 04:22 PM (LvTSG)

251 >>Joe Walsh is a fucktard

Funk #49 was badass, tho.

Posted by: garrett at July 10, 2023 04:23 PM (Q0RNV)

252 Shorter: Slaves weren't People. Slaves were Property.
Reads a whole lot more clear when you give that a nod.

Posted by: garrett at July 10, 2023 04:13 PM (Q0RNV)

actually that was a major disagreement that was not touched because it would have broken the entire convention.

So, now people are not property to be held by third parties (which is what inalienable means after all), and it was determined that they never were, and classification as such was an injustice.

Still reads the same. If the constitution is read as a contract, then it is still valid. If it is read as an instrument of control then it never was valid. The second proposal comes back to "stuff a bunch of guys secretly conspired to do but were too chicken to write it down" so I think we can disregard that just like "secret backroom handshake deals about the transfer of real property ownership options among third parties"

Posted by: Kindltot at July 10, 2023 04:23 PM (xhaym)

253 What does the admin. need to point to for censorship? The tech platforms are populated by wild eyed activists already. Don't they just use a wink and a secret handshake to snuff out dissent?

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at July 10, 2023 04:23 PM (7Fj9P)

254 Is Jimmy Carter still with us?

Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at July 10, 2023 04:23 PM (o2BvK)

255 Well there's a hot new take.

>>@MSNBC

>>The far right’s obsession with fitness is going digital

Put down those weights you white supremacists!

Posted by: JackStraw at July 10, 2023 04:23 PM (ZLI7S)

256 The Afternoon Arterton is testing TJM's vision from afar:

Well, one good thing about the Biden economy - apparently the hot women can't afford pants anymore.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 10, 2023 04:23 PM (lc5cP)

257 249 Is it true the inflation bill increased the Congress' salary package to include expenses, like rent and food? How did we miss this if so? They are completely detached from the people now.
Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at July 10, 2023 04:22 PM (oWBc3)

Congress, to the rest of us : "Let Them Eat Death."

Posted by: XTC at July 10, 2023 04:23 PM (UnA8+)

258 Joe Walsh is a fucktard
Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at July 10, 2023 04:21 PM (sJHOI)
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But life's been good to him so far.

Posted by: Director Christopher Wray at July 10, 2023 04:24 PM (krQz2)

259 The Southern Butthurt Rides Again.
Posted by: garrett at July 10, 2023 04:20 PM (Q0RNV)

Somehow "if you try to leave we'll kill you and your family" is a morally neutral Economic Station.

Reconstruction was a mistake.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 10, 2023 04:24 PM (9UlRk)

260 255 Put down those weights you white supremacists!
Posted by: JackStraw at July 10, 2023 04:23 PM (ZLI7S)

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I can't pick them back up for at least 72 hours. Doctor's orders.

*weeps knowing that I'm failing white supremacy*

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 10, 2023 04:24 PM (LvTSG)

261 240 The Southern Butthurt Rides Again.
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Why have Yankees been leaving their homes for the South since 1969? Now we have the California Exodus. Why is NY, IL and CA bankrupt?

Posted by: Pudinhead at July 10, 2023 04:24 PM (bA3Ln)

262 Nood p3d0s

Posted by: Moron Robbie found the recovered remains of Hitler's cocaine filled flying submarine at July 10, 2023 04:24 PM (HBEnm)

263 Doughty is a good name for this guy

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 10, 2023 04:25 PM (0hOvj)

264 The simplest, and one of the best, things the government could have done during COVID is told people to go exercise 3 or 4 times a week.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 10, 2023 04:25 PM (lc5cP)

265 Gonna have my self a few lines, then go find me a Dick Janitor who wants to see the Lincoln Bedroom.

Posted by: HUNTER BIDEN at July 10, 2023 04:26 PM (2znMt)

266 Shorter: Slaves weren't People. Slaves were Property.

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I suspect everyone involved agrees that entire thing was a mistake in more ways than one.

Posted by: Moron Robbie found the recovered remains of Hitler's cocaine filled flying submarine at July 10, 2023 04:26 PM (HBEnm)

267 >>actually that was a major disagreement that was not touched because it would have broken the entire convention.

The 3/5 Compromise didn't touch on that?

At all?

Sorry. It's been a decade since I waded through the source materials in detail, but in reading the Constitution you can't consider slaves as anything but Property.
It doesn't allow for it.

The Declaration alludes to that interpretation for certain, but in a fair reading of the Constitution, Slaves aren't to be considered as People.

Posted by: garrett at July 10, 2023 04:27 PM (Q0RNV)

268 190 That is the distressing thing to me. It 'feels' like less than 1/3 of this country knows that they are being fed lies. Most folks think that media are independent since there is no overt full state control of ABC, Facebook, the NYT, etc.
Posted by: PaleRider at July 10, 2023 04:06 PM (3cGpq)

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How can they not know that either their rent or property taxes, insurance, gas, food, big ticket items, small ticket items, services and repairs have taken huge leaps and bounds in costs? How can anyone not be aware of this?

Posted by: washrivergal at July 10, 2023 04:27 PM (XeHMZ)

269 266 Shorter: Slaves weren't People. Slaves were Property.

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I suspect everyone involved agrees that entire thing was a mistake in more ways than one.
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So Jesus didn't know what he was talking about, rite? Dittos all the Old Testament prophets. Slave is an economic station. We are all born slaves then we progress to Serf, Yoeman, Command and possibly Master. That's Life.

Posted by: Pudinhead at July 10, 2023 04:28 PM (bA3Ln)

270 The notion that they are looking to Tax Unrealized Gains as Income should be enough to show you the contempt they have for you and their desire to see you improve your station.

Considering how much the education cartel has been a disservice to this nation, such where a majority may not even know how to balance a checkbook, this looks like a scheme to grift billions of dollars in rent seeking in the form of consulting and compliance fees, AI based software systems, tax accountants. I'm not even sure how the IRS with their antiquated system can even accommodate a accounting model that makes the Climate Change™ modeling industry look like high school homework assignment.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at July 10, 2023 04:29 PM (p8A+W)

271 Don't underestimate this Censorship case. It's being run by able lawyers with States as plaintiffs. With a real judge who's already outraged by what went on.

The principal goal is full discloure on the record of who was pulling strings. Elon can be a help because he's got the Twitter side covered.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 10, 2023 04:29 PM (RqMSv)

272 57 I am not a lawyer, but that reads to me as if the judge is whacking them on the nose with a rolled-up newspaper and saying, "no" in a loud, firm voice.

That's exactly what he's doing, and I have the sense that if he's willing to be this firm initially, he's going to be most displeased with people who try to play games.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 10, 2023 03:38 PM (eOEVl)

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That wasn’t the judge’s statement, that was the statement from the AGs in support of the injunction.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 10, 2023 04:29 PM (MVcZH)

273 A word to the wise....if ya visit James Monroe's website, bring a lunch.

And a dinnah.

Posted by: JT at July 10, 2023 04:32 PM (T4tVD)

274 Ah, there's the rub. They'll claim that conservatives' speech threatens the public safety or security of the United States.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 10, 2023 03:42 PM (YqDXo)

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Garland did say criticizing the DoJ is a direct attack on an institution vital to democracy in the USA.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 10, 2023 04:32 PM (MVcZH)

275 Please recall, that as Christians, slaves and the trading in slaves are not a sin. Slave is an economic station not morality. Morality is measured in the choices you make with regard to others and yourself. The Crazy Quakers decided they were Jesus and as a result killed the largest percentage of Americans in a war to allegedly free the slaves. What they accomplished was to enslave the South for a century or more. Very, very moral people, rite? Some might recognize them as Caine.
Posted by: Pudinhead at July 10, 2023 04:18 PM (bA3Ln)

This is incorrect, slavery is a government enforced class. Without government backing and enforcement on society slavery is just a form of kidnapping. You apparently know more about sin than I do, so I will leave that particular statement to be argued by scholars like you.

the rest of this statement is opinion and does not comport to actual history. You fail to consider the role of state governments in pushing for emancipation, and the actions of Michigan's legislature in nullification of fugitive slave laws.
Nullification was not just a Southern thing having to do with tariffs, it was a general states right issue and popped up all over.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 10, 2023 04:33 PM (xhaym)

276 Shorter: Slaves weren't People. Slaves were Property.

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I suspect everyone involved agrees that entire thing was a mistake in more ways than one.
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So Jesus didn't know what he was talking about, rite? Dittos all the Old Testament prophets. Slave is an economic station. We are all born slaves then we progress to Serf, Yoeman, Command and possibly Master. That's Life.
Posted by: Pudinhead

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Mine was a joke about black culture in the U.S.

Posted by: Moron Robbie found the recovered remains of Hitler's cocaine filled flying submarine at July 10, 2023 04:36 PM (HBEnm)

277 What could the judge do? Hold the entire executive branch or the heads of agencies in contempt?

Federal judges have this thing called "Summary Contempt". They can have you hauled into their courtroom and throw you directly into jail.

Posted by: Fox2! at July 10, 2023 04:39 PM (mETmT)

278 Jimmy will outlast Sundowner

Posted by: Skip at July 10, 2023 04:41 PM (xhxe8)

279 The first time in my adult lifetime that I've watched and listened to normal Americans talking about having to struggle a little bit to feed their teenagers.

A little bit is going to become a lot...sooner rather than later.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at July 10, 2023 04:41 PM (Xrfse)

280 I want my 40 acres and a mule.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at July 10, 2023 04:44 PM (BdMk6)

281 As I understand it, nothing in this ruling prevents the government from objecting to a viewpoint they disagree with, even roundly condemning it and accusing the speaker of base motives.

The catch is they have to do it openly, not have a social media agent do it for them in secret!

In other words, they have the right to speak openly and even disparagingly, but they seek to constrain that right in others!

I think there had been too much attention paid to the public health issues, where low info voters may think the government should have special rights, and not enough to the secretive restraint on general free speech that the government seeks to reserve for its exclusive use!

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at July 10, 2023 04:50 PM (OqSlY)

282 Every year that the leftists are in charge, all we hear about from the so called press is "Things are not as bad as you feel".
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And the corollary, when leftists are not in charge, "Things aren't going as well as you think". AKA "Don't believe your lying eyes, we have fresh baked narrative to sell you"

Posted by: State Media at July 10, 2023 04:52 PM (fs1hN)

283 "The Ministry of Truth just took a bigun in the ass."

To paraphrase Andrew Jackson, the founder of the Democratic Party: "Justice Doughty has made his decision; now let him enforce it." The regime will flip him the bird and carry on as usual; only, the smirk will be a little broader.

Posted by: Nemo at July 10, 2023 05:27 PM (S6ArX)

284 I've watched the "Deutsche Wochenschau," a short film reporting (sorta) the Nazis' progress in the war that week. Everything was great, our glorious troops are moving from victory to victory, vanquishing the Third Reich's enemies, etc., laughing and smiling as they do so.

I'd love to see the later ones produced by the time it was becoming obvious that the Nazis were losing the war. Maybe they just stopped producing them.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 10, 2023 04:16 PM (YqDXo)

I have seen some later ones. They tried to put their best spin on any setbacks along with a "don't worry the new Wonder Weapons will save us" bit.

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