AP: You Know, Threats of Impeachment and Criminal Investigation Shouldn't Just Be Used to Express Disapproval of Your Political Opponents... <i>Republicans</i>

AP: You Know, Threats of Impeachment and Criminal Investigation Shouldn't Just Be Used to Express Disapproval of Your Political Opponents... Republicans

Really?

Are you kidding me right now?

After two impeachments and four prosecutions of Trump -- including a dozen people or more in his circle, including his valet -- the AP is now scolding the GOP for threatening impeachment against Merrick Garland?!

WASHINGTON (AP) -- House Republicans have held it over Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas for months. Attorney General Merrick Garland is facing it too. And President Joe Biden seemingly isn't far behind.
Driven by the demands of hard-right members

I've got a hard-right member for you right here, Sunshine.

Republicans in the House are threatening impeachment against Biden and his top Cabinet officials, creating a backbeat of chatter about "high crimes and misdemeanors" that is driving legislative action, spurring committee investigations, raking in fundraising money and complicating the plans of Speaker Kevin McCarthy and his leadership team.
Long viewed as an option of last resort, to be triggered only for the most severe wrongdoing, the constitutionally authorized power of impeachment is rapidly moving from the extraordinary to the humdrum, driven in large part by Republicans and their grievances about how Democrats twice impeached President Donald Trump.

Note that the AP refuses to say these impeachments are driven by Democrats' wielding impeachment and political prosecution as weapons.

No, it's driven by Republicans and their "grievances" about the Democrats impeaching Trump.

It might also have something to do with Merrick Garland repeatedly lying to Congress.

Or is that RUSSIAN DISINFORMATION?!

Republicans remain so opposed to Trump's impeachments, in fact, that they are pressing for votes to expunge the charges altogether -- an attempt to clear his name that is without direct precedent in congressional history.
"We're seeing a generation of Republicans who are much more willing to test the boundaries of how much you can weaponize procedures," said Julian Zelizer, a Princeton University historian and political scientist.

Am I dreaming? Am I hallucinating?

...
McCarthy on Sunday made Garland the latest target of a potential impeachment investigation as Republicans examine how the Department of Justice handled the prosecution of Hunter Biden for federal tax offenses. It capped a tumultuous week in which hard-right Republicans forced a vote to send articles of impeachment against Biden to a committee for investigation and also voted to censure Democratic Rep. Adam Schiff for his remarks and actions during the 2017 investigation into Trump's ties to Russia.
Some Republicans are pushing for yet another censure action, this time against Democratic Rep. Bennie Thompson for his leadership of the House committee that investigated the Jan. 6 insurrection.
In the past, lawmakers have reserved censure, a punishment one step below expulsion, for grave misconduct. When former Rep. Charles Rangel, a New York Democrat, was censured in 2010 on a bipartisan vote for ethics violations, then-speaker Nancy Pelosi solemnly summoned him to the well of the House, where censured members must stand as the resolution is read in a moment of public shaming.

"We really tried hard to put aside the partisan considerations because we knew how sharp and potent the weapon (of censure) was," said former Rep. Steve Israel, Democrat of New York, who was among Pelosi's closest confidantes. "This thing used to be rare. Now, it's in every cycle, in breaking news."

This is gaslighting of an entirely new kind. They're willing you to forget the past six years.

...

The fervor in the House for doling out punishment shows no signs of breaking -- in part because lawmakers are reaping the media attention and fundraising dollars that are steadily replacing committee chairmanships as the locus of power in the House.

There was partisanship or thirst for attention with the Democrats' endless impeachments, of course. Or Adam Schiff's serial lies.

...
Yet there's a risk that Republicans' appetite for using the punishment powers could easily escalate into a more serious test of whether Congress is legitimately wielding power -- and nowhere does that possibility loom larger than when it comes to Biden.

Some Republicans, however, view it as a question of when, not if, Biden is impeached. Floor debate on the resolution took on the air of a dress rehearsal, as Democrats and Republicans debated whether Biden has committed "high crimes and misdemeanors" with his handling of border and immigration policy.
Only three other presidents in U.S. history have been impeached -- Andrew Johnson, Bill Clinton and Trump, though none were convicted by the Senate. Should Republicans decide to make Biden the fourth, a system of checks and balances created by the framers could face a test like never before.

Your Regime Media, everyone.

Trust them. They lie constantly, they lie stupidly, they lie insanely -- and they're here to tell you what is Truth and what is Lie.

And they'll deplatform, debank, de-employ and dehumanize you if you dare to notice their lies.

Jazz Shaw looked up this particular Regime propagandist's articles about the Democrats' never-ending impeachments.

Would you be awfully surprised to hear he was rather a fan of those?

This is a curious argument to make when you consider the source. Both Groves and most of the Associated Press have previously been big fans of impeachment at both the federal and state levels. He's previously written what seemed like an endorsement of the idea of impeaching South Dakota Governor Kristi Noem, who by what I'm sure is a total coincidence, happens to be a Republican. A quick search of Associated Press articles from the runup to the 2022 elections will reveal a vast list of times that the impeachment of Donald Trump (twice!) is referenced with nary a complaint about those circus acts.

Posted by: Lamont the Big Dummy at 05:15 PM

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1 When I am elected King, there is going to be some changes.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 03, 2023 05:15 PM (OjHyA)

2 I nooded.

And I liked it and I'd do it again.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 03, 2023 05:17 PM (OjHyA)

3 It's good to be the king

Posted by: Steely Dan at July 03, 2023 05:17 PM (og5mY)

4 Their impeachments and prosecutions were only for serious breaches of the law.

Our impeachments are political games and retaliation.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 03, 2023 05:17 PM (Ss3pk)

5 Huh, the RINO party is doing their role of the Washington Generals again. So. Shocked.

Posted by: Bete at July 03, 2023 05:17 PM (rDNyD)

6 Rules apply only to Republicans.

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7 Recipe ideas for the next MoMe?

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A disturbing number of these call for cool whip.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 03, 2023 05:18 PM (Ss3pk)

8 A disturbing number of these call for cool whip.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy

I read that in Stewie's voice.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 03, 2023 05:18 PM (OjHyA)

9 7 Recipe ideas for the next MoMe?

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A disturbing number of these call for cool whip.
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Kink-y!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at July 03, 2023 05:19 PM (xcxpd)

10 The Right has not been hard for a long time now…

Posted by: tubal at July 03, 2023 05:20 PM (PCK5/)

11 Regarding those sorority sisters in Wyoming. Do none of them have a boyfriend, brother, or father who could come to the house and hang a beating on the tranny? Unexpectedly?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 03, 2023 05:20 PM (TEmDo)

12 Let's face it joe biden and winken blinken and nod should have been impeached after the Afghanistan withdrawal.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 03, 2023 05:20 PM (ncXxy)

13 "This is a curious argument to make when you consider the source."

Not really when you consider the source.

Posted by: fd at July 03, 2023 05:20 PM (iayUP)

14 I've got a hard-right member for you right here, Sunshine.

lol!! The picture in my head right now....

Posted by: jewells45 fuck cancer at July 03, 2023 05:21 PM (5iFFd)

15 Yeah. Standard copybook “republicans pounce” nonsense. Too boring to bother reading who got sand in AP’s bonus hole.

Posted by: henry at July 03, 2023 05:21 PM (3sJYI)

16 Jewells!! Hi!

Posted by: tubal at July 03, 2023 05:22 PM (PCK5/)

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A disturbing number of these call for cool whip.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 03, 2023 05:18 PM (Ss3pk)

Twatter is still not working for those of us untainted by membership.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 03, 2023 05:22 PM (TEmDo)

18 i woulda been first if this damn computer wasn't so slow

Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 03, 2023 05:22 PM (B1FKF)

19 hiya

Posted by: JT at July 03, 2023 05:22 PM (T4tVD)

20 "Hey, those impeachments were, like 2 years ago, who remembers stuff that long ago?? Besides I just got hired out of high school and today is the first day in history."
--Recent AP hire

Like with CNN discovering that you can move a ship with sails, and being totally amazed by it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2023 05:22 PM (0hOvj)

21 He hired Mattress Back to protect him from impeachment.

Posted by: torabora at July 03, 2023 05:22 PM (JSJlp)

22 I've been in and out, but incase this hasn't been discussed, feast on the Schadenfreudeliciousness:

https://tinyurl.com/ms2j7wz4

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 03, 2023 05:22 PM (Wnv9h)

23 A disturbing number of these call for cool whip.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy

I read that in Stewie's voice.
Posted by: Tonypete at July 03, 2023 05:18 PM (OjHyA)

Pronounced "Hwhip?"

Brian, give me a Hwheat Thin.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Totes Intelleckshul and Stuff at July 03, 2023 05:23 PM (T/Lqj)

24 Get a Time Machine gnats

Posted by: henry at July 03, 2023 05:23 PM (3sJYI)

25 Wow. They've gotten so bad Jazz Shaw noticed. I had expected Ed Morrissey to take up Allahpinhead's mantle, but I think Shaw has edged him out as the resident "wet". (Not by much; Ed's still a pussy.)

The question I still have is, how many know they're full of shit, and how many really believe this crap. There are particular cases where I'm sure - Bill Clinton knew, Hironoa has no clue - but often I'm unclear.

Posted by: Eeyore at July 03, 2023 05:23 PM (brAQZ)

26 Twatter is still not working for those of us untainted by membership.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

Would Muldoon please give us the code to reference untainting?

Posted by: Tonypete at July 03, 2023 05:23 PM (OjHyA)

27 A disturbing number of these call for cool whip.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 03, 2023 05:18 PM (Ss3pk)

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Posted by: It's me donna at July 03, 2023 05:23 PM (bs+z0)

28 So soon after pride month?
SO CLOSE TO KWANZAA!!?

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko stuff at July 03, 2023 05:23 PM (SCwm0)

29 I've got a hard-right member for you right here, Sunshine.

lol!! The picture in my head right now....
Posted by: jewells45 fuck cancer at July 03, 2023 05:21 PM (5iFFd)

is someone spilling secrets...

Posted by: SturmToddler at July 03, 2023 05:23 PM (Mkvkw)

30 Hi tubal! How goes it?

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31 I've got a hard-right member for you right here, Sunshine.

lol!! The picture in my head right now....

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Hard right member? Ask your doctor about treatments for Peyronie's disease....

Posted by: Archer at July 03, 2023 05:24 PM (gmo/4)

32 A disturbing number of these call for cool whip

James Lileks has a whole book of regrettable foods. Most of them came about by having an intern forced to come up with 50 new recipes to promote a product in the 60s and 70s.

"you have two days, Nelson. Fifty new ones for jell-o."

"criminy, okay shaved carrots in jello..."

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2023 05:24 PM (0hOvj)

33 Note that the AP refuses to say these impeachments are driven by Democrats' wielding impeachment and political prosecution as weapons.

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As Mannix is wont to say:

"Wet streets cause rain! REEEEEEEEEEEE!

Posted by: ShainS - Algorithmic Discrimination, Data Inequity/Disparity Mitigator AI Bot at July 03, 2023 05:25 PM (vLDuR)

34 ....a hard right member.

😏

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 03, 2023 05:25 PM (t/2Uw)

35 Brian, give me a Hwheat Thin.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Totes Intelleckshul and Stuff at July 03, 2023 05:23 PM (T/Lqj)

"Minnie had a heart as big as a Hwale."

Posted by: Cab Calloway at July 03, 2023 05:25 PM (TEmDo)

36 31 Hi tubal! How goes it?
Posted by: jewells45 fuck cancer at July 03, 2023 05:23 PM (5iFFd)

Pretty good… all of the relatives have gone away… went to a family reunion on Saturday… they all got so old!!! Of course I have not changed a bit…. you feeling pretty good??

Posted by: tubal at July 03, 2023 05:26 PM (PCK5/)

37 I read that in Stewie's voice.
Posted by: Tonypete at July 03, 2023 05:18 PM

Why are you putting so much emphasis on the "h"?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 03, 2023 05:26 PM (Wnv9h)

38
It's good to be the king
Posted by: Steely Dan

Hugh Betcha!

Posted by: Harv at July 03, 2023 05:26 PM (63Dwl)

39 Tonypete,
Will you email me? I have a question for you.

Posted by: lin-duh at July 03, 2023 05:27 PM (UUBmN)

40 Sure!

Posted by: Tonypete at July 03, 2023 05:27 PM (OjHyA)

41 It doesn't matter if WE remember the last six years, it's matters to their base. Again, why shouldn't the left gaslight people? What are we going to do? Complain? Show up in superior numbers for elections only to have it stolen?

"Hey Democrats and left-wingers dont you remember the last six years and what you did to Trump and some in his administration?"

"Yes we do but our base will lap up whatever we tell them. We own the DOJ/FBI, the Presidency, the MSM and social media so go fuck yourself Mr. Right-Winger."

Posted by: JROD at July 03, 2023 05:27 PM (IlL6s)

42 "Minnie had a heart as big as a Hwale."

Hi de hi de hi de hi
Ho de ho de ho de ho
Hee de hee de hee de hee
Hi de hi de hi de ho

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2023 05:28 PM (0hOvj)

43 Its different when we do it.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 03, 2023 05:28 PM (RIvkX)

44 For the Forth of July weekend we at the Brattleboro Ladiex Auxillary are hosting a "Lume Retreat". We are staying for 3 days without levaing in the Brattleboro Civic autotorium, playing games and making blankets, singing songs and just having fun.

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein of Brattleboro Vermouth at July 03, 2023 05:28 PM (iayUP)

45 Man, I should have gone to Wyoming and gotten a couple bricks of Black Cats and bottle rockets.

Feeling kind of splodey.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Totes Intelleckshul and Stuff at July 03, 2023 05:28 PM (T/Lqj)

46 Tubal.. good days and bad. Just found out my oncologist is leaving

Posted by: jewells45 fuck cancer at July 03, 2023 05:29 PM (5iFFd)

47 Someone should teach the Democrats what the Law of Reprisal is.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at July 03, 2023 05:29 PM (ou9hh)

48 Remember when AP introduced a second news feed. The original was "just the facts" the new one included editorialized depictions of events. I'm sure the original feed is history now.

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at July 03, 2023 05:29 PM (AiZBA)

49 hard-right member

Ace is a southpaw!

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at July 03, 2023 05:29 PM (wzAuc)

50 Bwa ha ha

The Wash Post front page headline: "Jackson is off to a bold start on bench" Subhead "First black female justice showcased independent streak in her debut term."

Ha ha ha ha ha ha

It must be so embarrassing to have to write that.

I want to ask her clerks how embarrassing it is to have to write her opinions. They must be blind adherents to the faith.

Posted by: Actually Inside the Beltway at July 03, 2023 05:29 PM (roPuI)

51
The Wash Post front page headline: "Jackson is off to a bold start on bench" Subhead "First black female justice showcased independent streak in her debut term."

Independent streak ? Is that what they're calling stupidity these days ?

Posted by: It's me donna at July 03, 2023 05:31 PM (bs+z0)

52 I am no longer surprised by either the media's lack of self awareness not the ability to lie to the American public.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at July 03, 2023 05:31 PM (17s+e)

53 I can't wait to see an actual hard right party emerge. Especially if they give away matching shirts in my size.
Posted by: Still the Same at July 03, 2023 05:21 PM (XnFBL)

We have an actual hard right party.

They're called Democrats.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 03, 2023 05:31 PM (Vwa7o)

54 "First black female justice showcased independent streak in her debut term."

Voting lockstep with every single leftist on the court is independent now?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2023 05:31 PM (0hOvj)

55 47 Tubal.. good days and bad. Just found out my oncologist is leaving
Posted by: jewells45 fuck cancer at July 03, 2023 05:29 PM (5iFFd)

That sucks… you’re up in KC, yes?? I magine he will give you a good referral… but losing a Doc you really like is a big deal, I know… sorry!

Posted by: tubal at July 03, 2023 05:31 PM (PCK5/)

56 "I can't wait to see an actual hard right party emerge. Especially if they give away matching shirts in my size.

Posted by: Still the Same at July 03, 2023 05:21 PM (XnFBL) "

This! don't even care about the shirts!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - we are being gaslighted 24/365 at July 03, 2023 05:32 PM (dwh5k)

57 Independent streak ? Is that what they're calling stupidity these days ?

*Snort*

Posted by: jewells45 fuck cancer at July 03, 2023 05:32 PM (5iFFd)

58 It might also have something to do with Merrick Garland repeatedly lying to Congress.

Or is that RUSSIAN DISINFORMATION?!

---------

"It has all the Dog Ears of Russian Disinformation!"

/I saw Dog Ears of Russian Disinformation open for Whistlin' Dixie at Fort Marcy Park in 2008.

Posted by: ShainS - Algorithmic Discrimination, Data Inequity/Disparity Mitigator AI Bot at July 03, 2023 05:32 PM (vLDuR)

59
"We really tried hard to put aside the partisan considerations because we knew how sharp and potent the weapon (of censure) was," said former Rep. Steve Israel, Democrat of New York, who was among Pelosi's closest confidantes. "This thing used to be rare. Now, it's in every cycle, in breaking news."

Oh, like the Donk commie cocksucker threats to impeach Dubya, and Daddy Bush, and Reagan, and Nixon... Totally not a political weapon, yo.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 03, 2023 05:33 PM (n+4am)

60 That's too bad jewells

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 03, 2023 05:33 PM (RIvkX)

61 So McCarthy is part of the hard right now?

Posted by: JackStraw at July 03, 2023 05:33 PM (ZLI7S)

62 The Democrats have started every violation of "Our Precious Norms". Never forget that the first ever partisan filibuster of a Federal judicial nomination, first ever, was the Democrats filibustering Miguel Estrada because they feared he would end up on the supreme court. And then they nuked the filibuster on judges when it suited them.

Like the Crusades, our side is only reactive.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 03, 2023 05:33 PM (PY/t0)

63 Tubal yeah KC area. They will assign me another oncologist from that hospital. Or may ask me who I want which..I have no freaking clue.

Posted by: jewells45 fuck cancer at July 03, 2023 05:33 PM (5iFFd)

64 Hard Right Members are treatable. Come to our site.

Posted by: bentcarrot.com at July 03, 2023 05:34 PM (T0tUU)

65 /I saw Dog Ears of Russian Disinformation open for Whistlin' Dixie at Fort Marcy Park in 2008.
Posted by: ShainS - Algorithmic Discrimination, Data Inequity/Disparity Mitigator AI Bot at July 03, 2023 05:32 PM (vLDuR)

"Midjourny, make an album cover for Dog Ears of Disinformation in the style of Frank Frazzetta meets Anne Geddes"

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 03, 2023 05:34 PM (Vwa7o)

66 Man, I should have gone to Wyoming and gotten a couple bricks of Black Cats and bottle rockets.

Feeling kind of splodey.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Totes Intelleckshul and Stuff at July 03, 2023 05:28 PM

I might fire off a couple of model rockets tomorrow. Depends on the wind though. Don't want to lose an expensive rocket.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 03, 2023 05:35 PM (ncXxy)

67 That's too bad jewells

I know. I started crying when I read the letter today. I really really like this guy. Pretty devastated he's leaving so soon. He hasn't even been there a year. I wonder if another hospital snatched him up. KU Med is the best there is maybe they offered him more money or something. IDK.. just sad about it.

Posted by: jewells45 fuck cancer at July 03, 2023 05:36 PM (5iFFd)

68 Like the Crusades, our side is only reactive.

I say we attack Venice

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2023 05:36 PM (0hOvj)

69 66, too bad we can't post images, lol

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - we are being gaslighted 24/365 at July 03, 2023 05:36 PM (dwh5k)

70 Willowed from way before

I lived in Palmer one semester. Top floor left window as you face it from Paty.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 03, 2023 04:14 PM (PY/t0)

———-

I lived in the connecting room next to the top right when facing from Paty.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 03, 2023 05:36 PM (cMXNt)

71 I say we attack Venice
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2023 05:36 PM (0hOvj)

Fuck those Greeks.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 03, 2023 05:36 PM (PY/t0)

72
Independent streak ? Is that what they're calling stupidity these days ?

Posted by: It's me donna at July 03, 2023 05:31 PM

So far over the top stupid that Justice Thomas had to name names.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at July 03, 2023 05:36 PM (enJYY)

73 Good doctor is hard to find.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 03, 2023 05:37 PM (RIvkX)

74 Fuck those Greeks.

Constantinople works, too.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2023 05:37 PM (0hOvj)

75 Happy 4th, jewells!!

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at July 03, 2023 05:38 PM (a4EWo)

76 I've got a hard-right member for you right here, Sunshine.

lol!! The picture in my head right now....
Posted by: jewells45 fuck cancer at July 03, 2023 05:21 PM (5iFFd)

Word. Reason I'll never be able to quit this place completely number 43624575489658 . . .

Posted by: Catherine at July 03, 2023 05:38 PM (ZSsrh)

77 I lived in the connecting room next to the top right when facing from Paty.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 03, 2023 05:36 PM (cMXNt)

Funny and meaningless, I got really hit on by the homo that lived in that room. He actually dropped out right after I turned him down, though perhaps the connection is coincidence.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 03, 2023 05:39 PM (PY/t0)

78 On the one hand I'm seeing the US government advising against travel to China. On the other, Blinken and Yellen (not a vaudeville show) are on their way to China.
Maybe China will keep them!

Posted by: gourmand du jour at July 03, 2023 05:39 PM (MeG8a)

79 64 Tubal yeah KC area. They will assign me another oncologist from that hospital. Or may ask me who I want which..I have no freaking clue.
Posted by: jewells45 fuck cancer at July 03, 2023 05:33 PM (5iFFd)

I will put in a request with God about the matter, if you don’t mind….

Posted by: tubal at July 03, 2023 05:39 PM (PCK5/)

80 >>>So McCarthy is part of the hard right now?

Posted by: JackStraw at July 03, 2023 05:33 PM (ZLI7S)

There is no hard right in DC political class. Only hard left.

Posted by: JmT at July 03, 2023 05:39 PM (124sD)

81 A hard Doctor is good to find..

Mayor Pete , probably.

Posted by: Hawkpilot at July 03, 2023 05:40 PM (CIPbf)

82 Of course they're hypocrites. Everyone in American public life is.

Let's say I went on AP's website and saw two editorials, one after another...

"DON'T SAY GAY: The Dark Night of Fascism Descends on Florida."

"SACRED DEMOCRACY: 14M Trump Voters Have Been Gassed in Our Justice Centers.

Democracy experts ask: is it nearly enough?"

I wouldn't even bat an eyelash.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 03, 2023 05:40 PM (oINRc)

83 That's short-sighted. Nobody wants to go street fight without something better than shirts and skins. A simple viewing of The Warriors teaches us all better than that.
Posted by: Still the Same at July 03, 2023 05:39 PM (XnFBL)

*digs out Braves uniform*

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 03, 2023 05:40 PM (PY/t0)

84 I will put in a request with God about the matter, if you don’t mind….

Not at all. Thank you.

Posted by: jewells45 fuck cancer at July 03, 2023 05:42 PM (5iFFd)

85 Dammit, this jersey doesn't fit anymore.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 03, 2023 05:42 PM (PY/t0)

86 So far over the top stupid that Justice Thomas had to name names.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at July 03, 2023 05:36 PM (enJYY)

And she's so stupid that she won't get the hint and will continue to display her stupidity over and over.

Posted by: Archer at July 03, 2023 05:42 PM (gmo/4)

87 I was a hard right.

Posted by: Ron Jeremy at July 03, 2023 05:42 PM (XnFBL)

88 Scorched earth, it's the only way forward.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at July 03, 2023 05:43 PM (oWBc3)

89 it's all theater. dems can impeach trump for wanting to get evidence of ukrainian corruption benefiting the biden mob, but lying to congress and hiding info congress has a right to know is an ocasio-crackpot blip in the pan.

enough. i'm all buzzed out for today

Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 03, 2023 05:43 PM (B1FKF)

90 {{DDS}} how are you dear friend?

Posted by: jewells45 fuck cancer at July 03, 2023 05:43 PM (5iFFd)

91 Again, they banged up Trumps CFO for taking legitimate business expenses and sent him to prison.

There is sufficient direct and circumstantial evidence to roll up the entire Biden Crime Family and send all of those vicious, disgusting retards to FPMITAP for 25 years.

And yet, no, no... they will not be sent to FPMITAP for 25 years.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 03, 2023 05:43 PM (up/3i)

92 Dammit, this jersey doesn't fit anymore.

Musta shrunk. That's what keeps happening to mine. Probably Big Textile sticking it to the little guy again.

Posted by: Hawkpilot at July 03, 2023 05:44 PM (CIPbf)

93 Affirmation-action hire Justice has never heard of the Dunning-Kruger effect, but will issue a 15000 word rebuttal of it...

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at July 03, 2023 05:44 PM (XMwZJ)

94 >>And she's so stupid that she won't get the hint and will continue to display her stupidity over and over.

Also, the stupidity will accelerate when she gets into an "I'm more oppressed than you" battle with the Wise Latina.

Posted by: Frasier Crane at July 03, 2023 05:44 PM (bNf8H)

95 This is gaslighting of an entirely new kind. They're willing you to forget the past six years.

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"The future is known, comrade -- it's the past that keeps changing!"

Posted by: ShainS - Algorithmic Discrimination, Data Inequity/Disparity Mitigator AI Bot at July 03, 2023 05:44 PM (g/JNk)

96 re 83: dr jill. ask joe

Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 03, 2023 05:44 PM (B1FKF)

97 Interesting... remember the DEI head of Disney that got canned? Now Warner Brothers and Netflix have fired their diversity execs.

Definitely dead weight that's easy to get rid of.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2023 05:45 PM (0hOvj)

98 Can't be a mirror in the whole AP building, not even in the bathrooms

Posted by: Skip at July 03, 2023 05:45 PM (xhxe8)

99 high crimes and misdemeanors is such a mean thing to say to anyone.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 03, 2023 05:45 PM (xhaym)

100 Remember, it isn't the GOP who are trying to turn us into slaves. It's the Democrats, and they started this.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at July 03, 2023 05:45 PM (d2bW3)

101 @48 FeatherBlade-"Someone should teach the Democrats what the Law of Reprisal is."

Politically or in the streets? We are pushing back a little here n there by showing up to school board meetings(where they're putting our names on terrorist lists) and not purchasing woke products(as if they care about losing money). Reprisal suggests we will do something offensively.......never happen. We will abide by the law and civil society right up until the left/Dems and their antifa brown shirts drag us kicking and screaming into defending ourselves. Then we'll see how much of a sense of self-preservation we have left.
We won't start a thing. They'll drag us into it because we will continue to annoy them because we voice our displeasure. They intend to remedy that.

Posted by: JROD at July 03, 2023 05:45 PM (IlL6s)

102 It's time to impose will, or lose.

To the streets!

*starts taping phonebooks to forearms*

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 03, 2023 05:46 PM (PY/t0)

103 Only we can use changed rules!

Posted by: Harry Reied currently enjoying Satan's barbed cock at July 03, 2023 05:46 PM (rDNyD)

104 If you could go back in time, what would be the one thing you would change?

ME: I think I would stop the 19th amendment from ratification.

Posted by: Archer at July 03, 2023 05:46 PM (gmo/4)

105 Trust them. They lie constantly, they lie stupidly, they lie insanely -- and they're here to tell you what is Truth and what is Lie.

That pretty much sums it up, Lamont. Please keep hammering it home.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at July 03, 2023 05:47 PM (Xrfse)

106 Interesting... remember the DEI head of Disney that got canned? Now Warner Brothers and Netflix have fired their diversity execs.

Definitely dead weight that's easy to get rid of.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2023 05:45 PM

Plus those sorts of positions generally have 7 digit salaries. Low hanging fruit to harvest.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 03, 2023 05:47 PM (ncXxy)

107 It is shocking how ignorant and absolutely stupid the Biden Administration choices for Supreme Court justice have been. Obama's were pretty terrible, too.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2023 05:47 PM (0hOvj)

108 Hard to find a phonebook now that you really need one...

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at July 03, 2023 05:47 PM (XMwZJ)

109 Am I dreaming? Am I hallucinating?

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"It didn't happen, and it's good that it did!"

Posted by: ShainS - Algorithmic Discrimination, Data Inequity/Disparity Mitigator AI Bot at July 03, 2023 05:47 PM (g/JNk)

110 7 A disturbing number of these call for cool whip.

whip it. whip it cool.

Posted by: up and coming new ad jingle at July 03, 2023 05:48 PM (oY6Yp)

111 re 93: not in the d.c. courts they won't

half the potential jurors won't remember they voted for biden in 2020. by absentee ballot. drop box. at 3 am the night before election day. twice in case they lost my first ballot.

what about kfc. ok, i remember that

Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 03, 2023 05:48 PM (B1FKF)

112 If you could go back in time, what would be the one thing you would change?

I think time travelers have already been fucking with the past and I fear that this is the best possible timeline. Maybe the only one that every had the United States, low as we have fallen.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 03, 2023 05:48 PM (PY/t0)

113 Remember, it isn't the GOP who are trying to turn us into slaves. It's the Democrats, and they started this.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at July 03, 2023 05:45 PM (d2bW3)

Funny that the decendants of the slaves are mostly with the Democrats.

Posted by: JmT at July 03, 2023 05:48 PM (124sD)

114 Why are you putting so much emphasis on the "h"?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 03, 2023 05:26 PM (Wnv9h)

It brings to mind being "Hwite"

As in, beyond playing disc golf while drinking craft IPA "Hwite"

Posted by: Kindltot at July 03, 2023 05:49 PM (xhaym)

115 AP probably sees it coming on Sundowner

Posted by: Skip at July 03, 2023 05:49 PM (xhxe8)

116 >>> 79 On the one hand I'm seeing the US government advising against travel to China. On the other, Blinken and Yellen (not a vaudeville show) are on their way to China.
Maybe China will keep them!
Posted by: gourmand du jour at July 03, 2023 05:39 PM (MeG8a)

We no see your ~~cat~~ politicians.

Posted by: CHYna at July 03, 2023 05:49 PM (llON8)

117 re 102: the pharaoh who knew not joseph was a republican. a real fack

Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 03, 2023 05:50 PM (B1FKF)

118 Interesting... remember the DEI head of Disney that got canned? Now Warner Brothers and Netflix have fired their diversity execs.

Definitely dead weight that's easy to get rid of.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2023 05:45 PM
Plus those sorts of positions generally have 7 digit salaries. Low hanging fruit to harvest.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 03, 2023 05:47 PM (ncXxy)
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We'll really know the tide is turning when universities start doing the same thing...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 03, 2023 05:50 PM (BpYfr)

119 If you could go back in time, what would be the one thing you would change?
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Nothing.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at July 03, 2023 05:50 PM (rH9Ii)

120 47 Sorry to hear that. Having trust and a good relationship with the oncologist really helps the process of suck.

Posted by: Bete at July 03, 2023 05:51 PM (rDNyD)

121
Funny and meaningless, I got really hit on by the homo that lived in that room. He actually dropped out right after I turned him down, though perhaps the connection is coincidence.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 03, 2023 05:39 PM (PY/t0)

—————

Nowadays you’d probably be kicked out of college for refusing a gay’s advances.

When I was in school I was part of the Student Senate. The big controversy was the Senate not approving money for the LGBT group.

So two years later the university dissolved the student government and reconstituted it by eliminating direct election of student Senators.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 03, 2023 05:51 PM (cMXNt)

122 What if I could convince Caesar that the senators planned to murder him. How different would history have turned out if Caesar had lived to be 90?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 03, 2023 05:51 PM (PY/t0)

123 Trump's impeachments were a hoax.

Ask Lt Col Bearclaw.

Posted by: Minuteman at July 03, 2023 05:51 PM (LaNzR)

124 " If you could go back in time, what would be the one thing you would change?"

Look before crossing the street.

Posted by: Edith Keeler at July 03, 2023 05:51 PM (iayUP)

125 re 117: "Funny that the decendants of the slaves are mostly with the Democrats."

well, their ballots sure are.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 03, 2023 05:52 PM (B1FKF)

126 So two years later the university dissolved the student government and reconstituted it by eliminating direct election of student Senators.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 03, 2023 05:51 PM (cMXNt)

When I was there in the middle 70s, student government was a straight up Greek affair.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 03, 2023 05:53 PM (PY/t0)

127 That's short-sighted. Nobody wants to go street fight without something better than shirts and skins. A simple viewing of The Warriors teaches us all better than that.
Posted by: Still the Same at July 03, 2023 05:39 PM (XnFBL)

I doubt any mainstream party is going to give away body armor. I mean, just yet.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 03, 2023 05:53 PM (xhaym)

128 94 Dammit, this jersey doesn't fit anymore.

Musta shrunk. That's what keeps happening to mine. Probably Big Textile sticking it to the little guy again.

uh huh. riiiiiiight.

Posted by: anachronda at July 03, 2023 05:53 PM (oY6Yp)

129 Regime-controlled media. No surprises there.

Posted by: But only when the regime is progtarded at July 03, 2023 05:53 PM (dE+9W)

130
The Weather Bug report for Spring, TX, where Her Majesty is passing through, says it's 95F, feels like 161.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 03, 2023 05:53 PM (MoZTd)

131 I'd probably tell Gen. Lee not to order Pickett's Charge, but he probably wouldn't listen and it would happen anyway.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at July 03, 2023 05:53 PM (MeG8a)

132 We won't start a thing. They'll drag us into it because we will continue to annoy them because we voice our displeasure. They intend to remedy that.

Posted by: JROD at July 03, 2023 05:45 PM

The pendulum is swinging back. There are currently 25 States that have constitutional carry. When I joined the Army way back in the day there was only one State that allowed their citizens to go about their business armed without a permit. SCOTUS has affirmed the 2nd amendment applies to individuals and not the "militia".

The *right* to abortion has been returned to the States, exactly where the constitution says it should have been from day one. Codified discrimination is finally dead. AA has been ruled illegal.

SCOTUS has upheld individual 1st amendment rights and ruled that State laws forcing people to do or say things they disagree with are illegal.

It may not seem like it, but we are winning. And a huge percentage of that winning can be tied directly to donald trump.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 03, 2023 05:53 PM (ncXxy)

133 >>> 129 re 117: "Funny that the decendants of the slaves are mostly with the Democrats."

well, their ballots sure are.
Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 03, 2023 05:52 PM (B1FKF)

I am trying and failing to come up with a way BEN ROTHLESSBERGERER would explain this.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 03, 2023 05:54 PM (llON8)

134 I doubt any mainstream party is going to give away body armor. I mean, just yet.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 03, 2023 05:53 PM (xhaym)
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Not on our side anyway. Expect Antifa and BLM goons to be issued full tactical gear any day now...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 03, 2023 05:54 PM (BpYfr)

135 *waves to Helena*

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at July 03, 2023 05:54 PM (rH9Ii)

136 Not going to be any impeachment by Repubs of anybody.
Unless the DomCong do Trump again. Then there will be a few crossovers.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 03, 2023 05:55 PM (ga8qR)

137 135 I'd probably tell Gen. Lee not to order Pickett's Charge, but he probably wouldn't listen and it would happen anyway.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at July 03, 2023 05:53 PM (MeG8a)

His fatal flaw… looking for that “ one” decisve battle.

Posted by: tubal at July 03, 2023 05:55 PM (PCK5/)

138 well, their ballots sure are.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 03, 2023 05:52 PM (B1FKF)

90 to 95 percent. So much good it has done them.

Posted by: JmT at July 03, 2023 05:55 PM (124sD)

139 re 127L i have an email from vindman in which he claims he heard trump trying to intimidate zelinsky: begging for a donation to rat bag schiff's senate campaign: june 28:

On July 25, 2019, as a United States Army lieutenant colonel detailed to the National Security Council, I witnessed a telephone call between then-President Donald Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky.

During that call, President Trump pressured President Zelensky to investigate then-former Vice President Joe Biden as a quid pro quo to continue receiving United States military aid. I was shocked.

I saw this for what it was: a blatant abuse of power, and political blackmail to aid President Trump in the 2020 election. As the White House's Russia and Ukraine expert I was also disturbed by what Russian dictator Vladimir Putin might attempt if the United States were no longer a Ukraine ally and defense partner.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 03, 2023 05:55 PM (B1FKF)

140 >>> 139 *waves to Helena*
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at July 03, 2023 05:54 PM (rH9Ii)

*waves back*

How are you doing in this OMG dangerous heat wave (which doesn't seem that different than the previous two summers)?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 03, 2023 05:56 PM (llON8)

141 re 134: dr jill is coming?

Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 03, 2023 05:57 PM (B1FKF)

142
Regime-controlled media. No surprises there.

Posted by: But only when the regime is progtarded at July 03, 2023 05:53 PM

Serious question... if the pharmaceutical industry provides 75% of the revenue to media - who is really pulling the strings? Follow up question... Why?

Posted by: Divide by Zero at July 03, 2023 05:57 PM (enJYY)

143 Meh..
The AP has been a laughingstock since the early 2000's and I don't believe most informed people even look past the silly titles of their grossly partisan articles anymore.

Fuck 'em.

They are just another legacy media organization that likes to crow about their "journalistic integrity" while giving themselves media awards, patting each other on the back and dispensing with any shard of the truth.
Every AP reporter I've ever met in my life (2 of them) were the most incredibly unaware assclowns. They had a high opinion of themselves that was likely validated by the gaggle of media sheep they hung around. Ah yes, life in the echo chamber!

Posted by: Tracy at July 03, 2023 05:57 PM (3ep4x)

144 We won't start a thing. They'll drag us into it because we will continue to annoy them because we voice our displeasure. They intend to remedy that.
Posted by: JROD at July 03, 2023 05:45 PM (IlL6s)

If you have a spare afternoon, go down to the county elections office and ask for the vote turn out for city council and school board and other such minor offices and see which was run unopposed.
Then think about paying your fee to get on the ballot and plan to spend a couple weeks knocking on doors with your pitch for "what I believe and what I will do" and hand out a small flyer with your name.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 03, 2023 05:57 PM (xhaym)

145 Who cares. Fuck these people

Posted by: Joe kidtoucher at July 03, 2023 05:57 PM (SWHSV)

146 His fatal flaw… looking for that “ one” decisve battle.
Posted by: tubal at July 03, 2023 05:55 PM (PCK5/)

A Napoleonic tactic. The land version of the Kantai Kessen. The world learned from that war that victory is won by attrition.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 03, 2023 05:57 PM (PY/t0)

147 Can't help but seeing any DEI official or boss not being the Commisar

Posted by: Skip at July 03, 2023 05:58 PM (xhxe8)

148 "Politically or in the streets?"

Well, the congress Repubs are trying to to it politically, and therefor should be encouraged to continue.

Naturally, the Donks are screaming "But that's not FAAAAAAAIIIIRRR" because they have the emotional maturity of a six year old.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at July 03, 2023 05:59 PM (ou9hh)

149 >>As the White House's Russia and Ukraine expert I was also disturbed by what Russian dictator Vladimir Putin might attempt if the United States were no longer a Ukraine ally and defense partner.

The idea that Vindman is an expert in anything other than donuts is laughable. Ukraine is still our "ally and defense partner" is a fashion and look what Putin is doing.

Today Putin sent missiles into the Ukrainian intel HQ.

Nice job, fatty.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 03, 2023 05:59 PM (ZLI7S)

150 If you could go back in time, what would be the one thing you would change?"

Never start smoking.

Posted by: jewells45 fuck cancer at July 03, 2023 05:59 PM (5iFFd)

151 70 democrats boycotted Trumps inauguration, and joined violent rioters in the DC area calling for his impeachment from the moment he took office.

Posted by: birddog at July 03, 2023 05:59 PM (uAI4S)

152 How are you doing in this OMG dangerous heat wave (which doesn't seem that different than the previous two summers)?
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Going to the pool and sucking up the A/C while at home.

My AO is under a burn ban, so no fireworks here.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at July 03, 2023 05:59 PM (rH9Ii)

153 How are you doing in this OMG dangerous heat wave (which doesn't seem that different than the previous two summers)?

Yeah this just feels like summer to me. Hotter than I like, but not exceptionally so. Fancy that, the guys predicting the weather got it wrong again.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2023 06:00 PM (0hOvj)

154 Hey Jewells.

Prayers up for a competent doc for you.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at July 03, 2023 06:00 PM (rH9Ii)

155 Not on our side anyway. Expect Antifa and BLM goons to be issued full tactical gear any day now...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 03, 2023 05:54 PM (BpYfr)

body armor only does so much. Aim for the feet.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 03, 2023 06:00 PM (xhaym)

156
When I was there in the middle 70s, student government was a straight up Greek affair.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 03, 2023 05:53 PM (PY/t0)

———

It was when I was there as well until the gay dust up. I was one of a handful of nonGreek senators

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 03, 2023 06:01 PM (wn5eC)

157 If the media and their political wing, the Democrats, didn't have double standards they would have no standards at all is still the defining feature of our times.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at July 03, 2023 06:01 PM (3JfbU)

158 33 James Lileks has a whole book of regrettable foods. Most of them came about by having an intern forced to come up with 50 new recipes to promote a product in the 60s and 70s.

"you have two days, Nelson. Fifty new ones for jell-o."

"criminy, okay shaved carrots in jello..."

given that i have seen with my own eyes boxes of tomato basil jell-o and celery jell-o (rigby idaho, philo t. farnsworth museum, highly recommended), i'm surprised there wasn't just a box of carrot flavored jell-o.

Posted by: anachronda at July 03, 2023 06:02 PM (oY6Yp)

159 160 Not on our side anyway. Expect Antifa and BLM goons to be issued full tactical gear any day now...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 03, 2023 05:54 PM (BpYfr)

body armor only does so much. Aim for the feet.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 03, 2023 06:00 PM (xhaym)

Yes, bullts to the groin area and thighs are extremely effective.

Posted by: tubal at July 03, 2023 06:02 PM (PCK5/)

160 Go back and smack Satan for tempting with the apple. And smack Adam and Eve for listening to him and not smacking him first.

Posted by: Bete at July 03, 2023 06:02 PM (rDNyD)

161 body armor only does so much. Aim for the feet.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 03, 2023 06:00 PM (xhaym)

———"

They still retain 85% effectiveness. Here’s a hint: aim for the nerve stem

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 03, 2023 06:03 PM (wn5eC)

162 i'm surprised there wasn't just a box of carrot flavored jell-o.

me too. We tend to think of gelatin as being a dessert thing, but it can be savory too, the Brits have been doing it for 300+ years.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2023 06:03 PM (0hOvj)

163 His fatal flaw… looking for that “ one” decisve battle.
Posted by: tubal at July 03, 2023 05:55 PM (PCK5/)

A Napoleonic tactic. The land version of the Kantai Kessen. The world learned from that war that victory is won by attrition.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 03, 2023 05:57 PM (PY/t0)

Another example. Hitler with Russia in 41. Would have been better to consolidate the gains in the west. It might have brought England to the table and kept the US from getting in.

Posted by: JmT at July 03, 2023 06:03 PM (124sD)

164 165 FilHollywood as convinced people car doors are effective armor and a pillow will turn a gun shot into a whisper.

Posted by: Bete at July 03, 2023 06:04 PM (rDNyD)

165 @136 Mr Scott-We are not winning. The pendulum has been swinging left for over one-hundred years with a few moments of slowing down. You point out a few battles won in a war.
Everything you have listed above is shit we already know we had by right. Great, some states affirmed our rights and abortion has been returned to the states......so what?
Our culture is being destroyed right before our eyes and it is corporate and government sponsored.They control the law and judicial system.

Winning and swinging back? Uhh, no. It's not.

Posted by: JROD at July 03, 2023 06:04 PM (IlL6s)

166 body armor only does so much. Aim for the feet.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 03, 2023 06:00 PM (xhaym)

———"

They still retain 85% effectiveness. Here’s a hint: aim for the nerve stem

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 03, 2023 06:03 PM

Kudos for the obscure Starship Troopers movie reference....

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 03, 2023 06:04 PM (ncXxy)

167 Most issued body armor is effective against 5.56mm, that why I use 7.62mm.

Posted by: Archer at July 03, 2023 06:05 PM (gmo/4)

168 Grant had the utmost respect for Lee as a tactician… considered him superb… faulted him as a strategist.

Posted by: tubal at July 03, 2023 06:05 PM (PCK5/)

169 {{{Jewells}}}

Can't wait to see you at the AR MoMee!

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 03, 2023 06:05 PM (llON8)

170 body armor probably does no good for people who will likely run at the first sign of guns. or one will get shot down and the others then run. god bless and thank god for people like rittenhouse

Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 03, 2023 06:05 PM (B1FKF)

171 Forget it, Lamont. It's Leftist Town.

Posted by: Gref at July 03, 2023 06:06 PM (AMIL/)

172 >>> 157

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Going to the pool and sucking up the A/C while at home.

My AO is under a burn ban, so no fireworks here.
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at July 03, 2023 05:59 PM (rH9Ii)

Yikes, we've at least been getting plenty of rain this year (so far).

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 03, 2023 06:07 PM (llON8)

173 Kudos for the obscure Starship Troopers movie reference....

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 03, 2023 06:04 PM (ncXxy)

Bug hunt. To square the circle with Aliens reference.

Posted by: Archer at July 03, 2023 06:07 PM (gmo/4)

174 What the AP and other media orgs don't understand that they and the politicians are the only people who believe their crap, the rest of us have turned away some time ago.

Nothing makes me as happy as hearing that woke media people have lost their jobs. Nobody ever says go woke get fired but that's how it eventually works out.

Compare that to "refuse to go woke, get fired immediately" where our sides loses far more but at least justice will eventually be served to the liars.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at July 03, 2023 06:08 PM (3JfbU)

175 Hollywood as convinced people car doors are effective armor and a pillow will turn a gun shot into a whisper.

LOL yeah. And you can put a suppressor on a revolver. And a shotgun will knock someone flying 10 feet.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2023 06:08 PM (0hOvj)

176 Go back and smack Satan for tempting with the apple. And smack Adam and Eve for listening to him and not smacking him first.

Posted by: Bete at July 03, 2023 06:02 PM

Pretty sure God would have an issue with that. Free will and all was programmed into us humans by him.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 03, 2023 06:08 PM (ncXxy)

177 I just finished John Heinlein's Starship Troopers, nothing like the movie. I hope Armor by John Steakley woud be better if ever made into a movie.

Posted by: Eromero at July 03, 2023 06:09 PM (Uv0D2)

178 174 Grant had the utmost respect for Lee as a tactician… considered him superb… faulted him as a strategist.

Posted by: tubal at July 03, 2023 06:05 PM (PCK5/)

If you flipped Grant and Lee's forces and resources I'm putting my money on Lee every time.

Posted by: JmT at July 03, 2023 06:09 PM (124sD)

179 Yes, getting hit when wearing ceramic body armor still knocks you on your can and hurts like heck.

Posted by: Archer at July 03, 2023 06:10 PM (gmo/4)

180 If the media and their political wing, the Democrats ...

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The judges would have also have accepted "the Democrats and their propaganda arm, the media ..."

Posted by: ShainS - Algorithmic Discrimination, Data Inequity/Disparity Mitigator AI Bot at July 03, 2023 06:10 PM (h4Pfd)

181 Never really ever considered aiming for the feet. Kind of a difficult target when they are moving.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at July 03, 2023 06:10 PM (Xrfse)

182 I just finished John Heinlein's Starship Troopers, nothing like the movie. I hope Armor by John Steakley woud be better if ever made into a movie.
Posted by: Eromero at July 03, 2023 06:09 PM (Uv0D2)
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"John" Heinlein? Must be Robert A. Heinlein's younger, less successful cousin...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 03, 2023 06:11 PM (BpYfr)

183 America's abysmal "media" is really about as shameless as it gets. Izvestia/Pravda has nothing on them. They are utterly disgraceful.

Posted by: Lady in Black at July 03, 2023 06:11 PM (sVtYq)

184 @148 Kindltot-I attend plenty of city council meetings. I've knocked on more fucking doors than any MF'er here including you. I've done it at the risk of losing my job and being violently attacked. You don't know a fucking thing that I have done actively in the streets. Marching with veterans that supported the troops during the war on terror in Berkeley California to Pro-Life Marches in San Francisco where the pussy Catholic Church my relatives attend told me not to attend any more pro life marches because I beat the fuck out of some Black Bloc(before they were antifa) assholes. Plenty of other shit too.

YOU go run for office and I'll continue to do what I do.

Posted by: JROD at July 03, 2023 06:11 PM (IlL6s)

185 What gets me is in the movies, every time someone wearing body armor gets shot they take it off, like that's the last bullet that can hit them.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2023 06:11 PM (0hOvj)

186 Long viewed as an option of last resort, to be triggered only for the most severe wrongdoing, the constitutionally authorized power of impeachment is rapidly moving from the extraordinary to the humdrum, driven in large part by Republicans and their grievances about how Democrats twice impeached President Donald Trump.

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So they are saying Trump got impeached for severe wrongdoing and Republicans are just being frivolous?

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at July 03, 2023 06:12 PM (h1jJh)

187 184 I just finished John Heinlein's Starship Troopers, nothing like the movie.

john wrote one, too?

Posted by: anachronda at July 03, 2023 06:12 PM (oY6Yp)

188 188 So they are saying Trump got impeached for severe wrongdoing and Republicans are just being frivolous?

got it in one.

Posted by: anachronda at July 03, 2023 06:13 PM (oY6Yp)

189 I just finished John Heinlein's Starship Troopers, nothing like the movie. I hope Armor by John Steakley woud be better if ever made into a movie.
Posted by: Eromero at July 03, 2023 06:09 PM (Uv0D2)
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"John" Heinlein? Must be Robert A. Heinlein's younger, less successful cousin...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 03, 2023 06:11 PM

Be that as it may, the Felix character in the Armor book would be extremely complicated to portray in a movie. Plus he owns an entire planet with a Fleet base on it towards the end.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 03, 2023 06:13 PM (ncXxy)

190 HH I didn't know you were going!! Woot!!

Posted by: jewells45 fuck cancer at July 03, 2023 06:13 PM (5iFFd)

191 Somebody needs a time out.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 03, 2023 06:14 PM (ncXxy)

192 176 Hollywood as convinced people car doors are effective armor and a pillow will turn a gun shot into a whisper.

LOL yeah. And you can put a suppressor on a revolver. And a shotgun will knock someone flying 10 feet.

i'm old enough to remember macgyver armoring things up with 55-gallon drums.

Posted by: anachronda at July 03, 2023 06:14 PM (oY6Yp)

193 >>> 192 Somebody needs a time out.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 03, 2023 06:14 PM (ncXxy)

It wasn't me.

Nobody saw me do it.

You can't prove anything!

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 03, 2023 06:14 PM (llON8)

194 Hollywood as convinced people

Oh magic gun, unlock any locked thing I shoot with thee

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko stuff at July 03, 2023 06:14 PM (SCwm0)

195 I just finished John Heinlein's Starship Troopers, nothing like the movie.

john wrote one, too?

Posted by: anachronda at July 03, 2023 06:12 PM

Sure, just like Bob Denver wrote country music.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 03, 2023 06:15 PM (ncXxy)

196 Rather than more empty and time wasting impeachment hearings, the House should just vote to negate the Trump impeachments. Remove them as not only invalid but blatantly partisan attempts to manipulate elections.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2023 06:15 PM (0hOvj)

197 Never really ever considered aiming for the feet. Kind of a difficult target when they are moving.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at July 03, 2023 06:10 PM (Xrfse)

If you can hit their feet, you can hit their necks. The neck region is only slightly armored and any projectile, like a .45 may not penetrate it, but it'll probably crush the larynx. A bad day for the hittee.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at July 03, 2023 06:16 PM (BdMk6)

198 11 Regarding those sorority sisters in Wyoming. Do none of them have a boyfriend, brother, or father who could come to the house and hang a beating on the tranny? Unexpectedly?

Trouble with this is the chilling effect of knowing there's a good chance that the entire legal system all the way up to the FBI is likely to go after you harder for punching the obnoxious perv than they would have gone after Al Capone

Posted by: azjaeger at July 03, 2023 06:16 PM (3/XaG)

199 Hollywood as convinced people

I have always wanted one of those super powerful character based interfaces the hackers use.

Access Denied

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Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 03, 2023 06:16 PM (PY/t0)

200 Has anyone commented on Max Blumenthal's speech at the UN. He just said that a billion dollar payment to Ukraine came from the Social Security Administration. That we paid off Ukraine's sovereign debt with money from the US Agency for development, 4.5 Billion most of which was owned by Black Rock. This speech deserves a flaming skull.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 03, 2023 06:17 PM (t/2Uw)

201 What dumbass sends the RNC money in response to promises of investigations?

Posted by: Valiant at July 03, 2023 06:18 PM (cy2xC)

202 >>> 200

==
I have always wanted one of those super powerful character based interfaces the hackers use.

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Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 03, 2023 06:16 PM (PY/t0)

I *strenuously* demand access!!

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 03, 2023 06:18 PM (llON8)

203 The groin has a maze of nerves and blood vessels, and a pelvis and hip joints, all of which hate bullets..

Posted by: tubal at July 03, 2023 06:19 PM (PCK5/)

204 Rather than more empty and time wasting impeachment hearings, the House should just vote to negate the Trump impeachments. Remove them as not only invalid but blatantly partisan attempts to manipulate elections.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2023 06:15 PM (0hOvj)

Let them stand. They are so pathetic historically. Let the Democrats wear it.

Posted by: JmT at July 03, 2023 06:19 PM (124sD)

205 150 I'd probably tell Gen. Lee not to order Pickett's Charge, but he probably wouldn't listen and it would happen anyway.

Another good point in history. Lee wouldn't listen to me either, but I'd tell him to just wait. For that matter, I'd tell Jefferson Davis to just wait. There was no need to go on the offensive against the Union. Just wait Lincoln out - he was busy undermining himself. And don't sweat those ships at Sumter. Keep your powder dry, and not used.
Posted by: Still The Same at July 03, 2023 05:58 PM (XnFBL)

Well that's the gamble. If there'd been no shooting, there's a good chance a lot of states might have cooled off and rejoined the Union.

Frankly, if the South had gone aggressive, they might have outright won their independence via force of arms. Hell Sharpsburg was only a Union 'victory' because one of Lee's orders got used as a cigar wrapper by some fucknut who then lost it and it ended up in McClellan's hands.

The first Civil War is full of 'what if's...makes it fascinating, just like WW2

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at July 03, 2023 06:19 PM (xcxpd)

206 I always wanted to set some resource security to OVERRIDE.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 03, 2023 06:19 PM (PY/t0)

207 Ever wore the shit they issue you in the Army ? You can't wait to take it off. Because it's heavy, and bulky, and generally sucks. Getting shot might be better. Especially where the Army sends you to wear that shit.
___

Word.

IOTV>IBAS

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at July 03, 2023 06:20 PM (rH9Ii)

208 Has anyone commented on Max Blumenthal's speech at the UN. He just said that a billion dollar payment to Ukraine came from the Social Security Administration. That we paid off Ukraine's sovereign debt with money from the US Agency for development, 4.5 Billion most of which was owned by Black Rock. This speech deserves a flaming skull.

The junta is gonna need to sponsor a bake sale in order to keep this bullshit up.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at July 03, 2023 06:20 PM (Xrfse)

209 Boy those Republicans sure do love to pounce huh?

Posted by: Montec at July 03, 2023 06:21 PM (rYeS1)

210 >>>If you could go back in time, what would be the one thing you would change?

>I would have advised Capt. Willard to never get out of the goddamn boat. Not unless he was going all of the way!

Posted by: Dr. Bone at July 03, 2023 06:21 PM (KVGVf)

211 210

The junta is gonna need to sponsor a bake sale in order to keep this bullshit up.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at July 03, 2023 06:20 PM (Xrfse)

So is it a regime, or a junta… I have been calling it a Regime..

Posted by: tubal at July 03, 2023 06:21 PM (PCK5/)

212 Ever wore the shit they issue you in the Army ? You can't wait to take it off. Because it's heavy, and bulky, and generally sucks. Getting shot might be better. Especially where the Army sends you to wear that shit.

And that's physics. It has to be. Because imagine if Wakanda suddenly started issuing Vibranium Plates. The perfect, light, thin, can't be penetrated material.

The force of that .45, or .357, or 12 gauge slug is still going through that plate, directly into you. The lighter and thinner the plate ? The worse.

Posted by: Old Records On the Shelf at July 03, 2023 06:19 PM

We had those old style Flak jackets in the Army. I swear they weighed 25 pounds at the end of the day. they might protect you from a blast fragment but that was about it. Plus you would be sweating like a pig wearing them in the field even in the winter time.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 03, 2023 06:21 PM (ncXxy)

213 Aim low, men! Aim low!

Posted by: Notorious BFD at July 03, 2023 06:23 PM (Xrfse)

214 Buddy got shot in the ass in Iraq, second time wounded, first time shrapnel… anyway, he still is dealing with the ass wound.. hip really.

Posted by: tubal at July 03, 2023 06:23 PM (PCK5/)

215 Ever wore the shit they issue you in the Army ? You can't wait to take it off. Because it's heavy, and bulky, and generally sucks. Getting shot might be better. Especially where the Army sends you to wear that shit.

A-fucking-men, brutha. Hated that armor.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at July 03, 2023 06:24 PM (BdMk6)

216 141 135 I'd probably tell Gen. Lee not to order Pickett's Charge, but he probably wouldn't listen and it would happen anyway.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at July 03, 2023 05:53 PM (MeG8a)

His fatal flaw… looking for that “ one” decisve battle.

Posted by: tubal at July 03, 2023 05:55 PM (PCK5/)

A numerically weaker military often seeks to win the war in one decisive battle, or in a short all-out offensive campaign. Because they know they cannot win a prolonged attrition war.

Some examples, off the top of my head -

German High Seas Fleet vs Royal Navy

Afrika Korps vs British 8th Army

German Army vs Red Army, 1941

Imperial Japanese Navy vs United States Navy, from 1930 to fall 1941 (the IJN planned to lure the USN Pacific Fleet into a blue water, night battle slugfest)

Posted by: Gref at July 03, 2023 06:24 PM (AMIL/)

217 So is it a regime, or a junta… I have been calling it a Regime..

I suppose both will work.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at July 03, 2023 06:25 PM (Xrfse)

218 TIf you could go back in time, what would be the one thing you would change?

-

Make sure 1965 immigration act never happened. That’s was Ted Kennedy’s lasting gift to America.

Posted by: Montec at July 03, 2023 06:26 PM (rYeS1)

219 There is some phantom commenting going on… anyone else notice it, or am I having a stroke??

Posted by: tubal at July 03, 2023 06:28 PM (PCK5/)

220 Cannot understand why nobody wants to sign up...'tis a mystery...

This Independence Day weekend, the Department of Defense honored “she/her” Major "Rachel" Jones

https://tinyurl.com/44p4wevj

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at July 03, 2023 06:29 PM (rH9Ii)

221 There is some phantom commenting going on… anyone else notice it, or am I having a stroke??

Posted by: tubal at July 03, 2023 06:28 PM (PCK5/)

No, but I'm not paying strict attention. Do you smell toast?

Posted by: Archer at July 03, 2023 06:29 PM (gmo/4)

222 98 Interesting... remember the DEI head of Disney that got canned? Now Warner Brothers and Netflix have fired their diversity execs.

Definitely dead weight that's easy to get rid of.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2023 05:45 PM (0hOvj)

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Hilarious that they thought they needed to hire diversity candidates or the public backlash would hurt their business.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at July 03, 2023 06:29 PM (h1jJh)

223 Imperial Japanese Navy vs United States Navy, from 1930 to fall 1941 (the IJN planned to lure the USN Pacific Fleet into a blue water, night battle slugfest)

Posted by: Gref at July 03, 2023 06:24 PM (AMIL/)

The Japanese were excellent nightime sea warriors. Kicked butt in that environment until early 1945.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at July 03, 2023 06:30 PM (BdMk6)

224 220 Cannot understand why nobody wants to sign up...'tis a mystery...

This Independence Day weekend, the Department of Defense honored “she/her” Major "Rachel" Jones

https://tinyurl.com/44p4wevj
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at July 03, 2023 06:29 PM (rH9Ii)

Would you be able to keep a straight face, walking up to that desk??

Posted by: tubal at July 03, 2023 06:30 PM (PCK5/)

225 Make sure 1965 immigration act never happened. That’s was Ted Kennedy’s lasting gift to America.

Posted by: Montec at July 03, 2023 06:26 PM (rYeS1)

That was the beginning of the end for the United States. Everything happening now started then.

Posted by: JmT at July 03, 2023 06:30 PM (124sD)

226 A numerically weaker military often seeks to win the war in one decisive battle, or in a short all-out offensive campaign. Because they know they cannot win a prolonged attrition war.

The ultimate irony of Robert E. Lee. He chose to find his decisive win at Gettysburg. When all he had to do is turn around, and march on Washington D.C.

He had the win in his hands, and literally gave it back.

Posted by: Ten Minutes at July 03, 2023 06:30 PM (2hCbA)

227 204 The groin has a maze of nerves and blood vessels, and a pelvis and hip joints, all of which hate bullets..

Posted by: tubal at July 03, 2023 06:19 PM (PCK5/)

The groin also hates deep stab wounds. The lower abdomen hates deep stab wounds, too.

Posted by: Romans armed with the gladius at July 03, 2023 06:31 PM (AMIL/)

228 The Japanese were excellent nightime sea warriors. Kicked butt in that environment until early 1945.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at July 03, 2023 06:30 PM (BdMk6)

The Japanese then were really good at war. The deficit in resources eventually did them in.

Posted by: JmT at July 03, 2023 06:37 PM (124sD)

229 Imperial Japanese Navy vs United States Navy, from 1930 to fall 1941 (the IJN planned to lure the USN Pacific Fleet into a blue water, night battle slugfest)

Posted by: Gref at July 03, 2023 06:24 PM (AMIL/)

Iron Bottom sound.

Savo Island - U.S. Navy lost 3 heavy cruisers in a night battle.

The U.S. Navy lost over 13 large surface ships in the "slot" during 1942 -1943.

Posted by: Archer at July 03, 2023 06:38 PM (gmo/4)

230 The ultimate irony of Robert E. Lee. He chose to find his decisive win at Gettysburg. When all he had to do is turn around, and march on Washington D.C.

He had the win in his hands, and literally gave it back.
Posted by: Ten Minutes at July 03, 2023 06:30 PM (2hCbA)

I'm not buying it.

A. DC was extensively fortified by the summer of 63
B. Even if Lee had captured and burned DC like the British, the war would have continued. Grant had just taken Vicksburg and split the South. Armies would still have moved from the West into the Confederacy.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 03, 2023 06:39 PM (PY/t0)

231 The Confederacy was doomed from the start. The North had all the logistics and manpower. The only way for the South to have won was if the North lost their will.

Posted by: Archer at July 03, 2023 06:41 PM (gmo/4)

232 The South was never going to win the the war after Lincoln made it non negotiable. Lee made it longer and costlier with his brilliance.

Posted by: JmT at July 03, 2023 06:44 PM (124sD)

233 223 Imperial Japanese Navy vs United States Navy, from 1930 to fall 1941 (the IJN planned to lure the USN Pacific Fleet into a blue water, night battle slugfest)

Posted by: Gref at July 03, 2023 06:24 PM (AMIL/)

The Japanese were excellent nightime sea warriors. Kicked butt in that environment until early 1945.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at July 03, 2023 06:30 PM (BdMk6)

Yup. Their decisive surface battle plan was to cut the US main battle fleet down to size using coordinated mass torpedo attacks by destroyers and light cruisers, then their heavy cruisers would attack and destroy the outnumbered USN heavy cruiser force with torpedoes and gunfire, then it would be a battleship slugfest for the win, with surviving IJN heavy cruisers helping out with gunfire and torpedo reloads. The ships of the IJN beginning in the late 20s were designed for this battle plan. Many torpedo tubes on all of the light ships, with fast reload capability. The Yamato class was designed to be qualitatively superior to any battleship class the Japanese foresaw the US building in the late 30s and early 40s.

Posted by: Romans armed with the gladius at July 03, 2023 06:45 PM (AMIL/)

234 The Japanese then were really good at war. The deficit in resources eventually did them in.
Posted by: JmT at July 03, 2023 06:37 PM (124sD)

Were they really though? Good, I mean. In modern times they beat or stalemated the Russian army and navy at the very end of their respective tethers. Other than that, when did they ever face and defeat a first class opponent who was able to give them it's full attention?

I am starting to be all contrarian today.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 03, 2023 06:46 PM (PY/t0)

235 I am starting to be all contrarian today.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 03, 2023 06:46 PM (PY/t0)

They were good. Kicked China around with about a tenth of the population. Would still own them now without western intervention.

Posted by: JmT at July 03, 2023 06:51 PM (124sD)

236 Perfesser Squirrel@ 189-
And that was stone cold sober. I'll remedy that pdq. But my opinion stands, Armor would make a great movie, if somebody like Mel Gibson made it.

Posted by: Eromero at July 03, 2023 07:03 PM (Uv0D2)

237 When Biden gets impeached, it will be over his corruption, graft and extortion. To the titles of plagiarist, blowhard and liar in chief, we will now be able to add "Raqueteer"...

There are grounds to also impeach Sec of Interior and of Energy.

Posted by: Augusto Perez at July 03, 2023 07:51 PM (St/ir)

238 Wasn't AOC jaw-jawing about impeaching members of the Supreme Court simply because of feelz?

Or was that another vapid leftist? Honestly, it almost doesn't matter; they get their download from the NPC mothership, install the patch, and then parrot it out.

Posted by: Another Anon at July 03, 2023 09:19 PM (hwP7U)

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