74% of Americans Say That the Country Is On the Wrong Track

Is America finally waking up from its covid delusions?

Note this is an NBC poll that claims that Biden beats Trump and ties DeSantis, so the real numbers are much worse.

Voters are souring on the state of the nation, with a stunning 74% saying the US is on the wrong track, according to a survey released Sunday.
The NBC poll found just 20% of respondents say America is moving in the right direction.
The last time voters were that bitter about the nation's course -- in 1992 and 2008 -- the party in control of the White House changed hands, NBC's Chuck Todd noted in unveiling the results.
In each of those elections, Democrats Bill Clinton and Barack Obama snatched the Oval Office back from Republicans.
...
While Trump has a growing lead over Gov. Ron DeSantis in the GOP primary, the Florida governor does better against President Biden in the general election, the survey showed. Biden leads Trump 49% to 45%, but Biden and DeSants are in a dead heat -- 47% to 47%.

Sure, Jan. Sure.

There's also a big red flag for the GOP: 61% of voters disapprove of the Supreme Court's ruling last year overturning federal abortion rights, while only 36% approve.
NBC poll about future of the United States.

Kamala Harris, meanwhile, is viewed unfavorably by nearly a majority of the public.

Vice President Kamala Harris' unpopularity gap is wider than any second-in-command in at least 30 years, a new poll has found.
A staggering 49% of registered voters have a negative view of the veep, with 39% saying their view is "very negative," according to a NBC News poll released Sunday.
By contrast, just 32% of Americans say they view Harris positively, and only 11% say they have a "very positive" view.
The 58-year-old's -17 favorability spread is the lowest for a vice president in the history of the NBC News poll.
For context, Harris predecessor Mike Pence's ratings sat at 34% positive to 38% negative (-4%) in October 2019.

Posted by: Lamont the Big Dummy at 05:30 PM

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1 first-ish?

Posted by: gnats local 678 at June 27, 2023 05:33 PM (B1FKF)

2 i shall notify the other others

Posted by: gnats local 678 at June 27, 2023 05:33 PM (B1FKF)

3 Only 74%? Not a big deal, move on, nothing to see here.......biden is the best president since lincoln.....

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 27, 2023 05:35 PM (ncXxy)

4 NBC poll? m'kay

Posted by: DanMan at June 27, 2023 05:35 PM (DB6tu)

5 i seen me duty an i done it ag ag ag ag ag.

past the olive oyl.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at June 27, 2023 05:35 PM (B1FKF)

6 Yeah, the median IQ in the US is 100. Take that for what it's worth.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 27, 2023 05:35 PM (pohLc)

7 We can always nominate that guy who is going to find out what a Weeble is.

Posted by: Grape Juice Plus at June 27, 2023 05:36 PM (ufJfM)

8 Half of those because they think the country isn't turbo gay luxury communist enough yet.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at June 27, 2023 05:36 PM (X+iTM)

9 ah, polling, the gold standard of veracity! /s

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - we are being gaslighted 24/365 at June 27, 2023 05:36 PM (dwh5k)

10 61% of voters are constitutionally illiterate.

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at June 27, 2023 05:37 PM (XMwZJ)

11 Why is Lamont here ? Did he screw up ? Plus I do not trust polls even if they are favorable to my thinking

Posted by: It's me donna at June 27, 2023 05:37 PM (bs+z0)

12 The other 26% are LGBTQ, trannies, MSM and 40 million illegal aliens.

Posted by: Ripley at June 27, 2023 05:37 PM (K+BZP)

13 "74% of Americans Say That the Country Is On the Wrong Track"

If you believe any of Our Betters care, I have news for you.

Posted by: Gref at June 27, 2023 05:37 PM (AMIL/)

14 NBC poll?? That should say it all. Not worth any further comment.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at June 27, 2023 05:37 PM (BdMk6)

15 Lamont may have been a big dummy, but he would've made a great POTUS.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 27, 2023 05:37 PM (ssESX)

16 Apparently only 36% of Republicans know how the Gov is supposed to work. Awesome.

Posted by: DOYLE at June 27, 2023 05:37 PM (Z8Yh2)

17 If NBC says 74% I wonder what the real number is cause it sure is hell isn't 74%.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 27, 2023 05:37 PM (ZLI7S)

18 100% of all cemetary plots surveyed in the USA found a 100% support for Biden/Harris !!!!!!

Posted by: Ferd Berfall at June 27, 2023 05:38 PM (hSa/7)

19 Seattle Pride parade was led by the Boy Scouts.

we got your wrong track right here.

https://tinyurl.com/mw9pzr98

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 27, 2023 05:38 PM (AG7v3)

20 How much of that 74% is because they don't think we're leftwing enough?

Posted by: McLurkerson at June 27, 2023 05:38 PM (wNDOJ)

21 11 Why is Lamont here ? Did he screw up ? Plus I do not trust polls even if they are favorable to my thinking
Posted by: It's me donna at June 27, 2023 05:37 PM (bs+z0)
Lamont managed to wipe the blog out for a while earlier. Except the ads, they stayed.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 27, 2023 05:38 PM (pohLc)

22 > Yeah, the median IQ in the US is 100. Take that for what it's worth.

Is it? Given how test scores have been declining year over year for decades, I'd have guessed the median IQ would be lower.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 27, 2023 05:38 PM (R38qh)

23 Dilly dilly!

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at June 27, 2023 05:38 PM (tHNY1)

24 the ads for the reelect trump campaign are going to be thunderous lightning

biden admin the most corrupt admin since... oh, obama or clinton or nixon or warren harding

which why trump needs to be destroyed. i fear that the desantis campaign will be a throwback to compassionate conservative or what ever karl rove and paul ryan push. move on.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at June 27, 2023 05:39 PM (B1FKF)

25 Afternoon.

I'd say diving headlong into a bizarre black nationalist/feminist/homogay dictatorship of the deviant *might* be the wrong way to go for a free country.

Posted by: Robert at June 27, 2023 05:39 PM (1Yy3c)

26 Calling it now:

Joe Biden will break 100 million votes and sweep all 50 states. They will make the worst, most hated president in history have the biggest win in presidential electoral history. Bigger than Washington!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 27, 2023 05:39 PM (wsSEe)

27 Things must be ugly at A-B

Supposedly, there is now confirmation that Bud Light did indeed fire workin' class gal Alissa Heinerscheid and her marketing dept. boss.

https://youtu.be/dJDgRMHEtGU

Make of it what you will.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 27, 2023 05:39 PM (guGkK)

28 Happy anniversary, G'rump928(c)!

Posted by: bonhomme at June 27, 2023 05:40 PM (R38qh)

29 7 We can always nominate that guy who is going to find out what a Weeble is.
Posted by: Grape Juice Plus at June 27, 2023 05:36 PM (ufJfM)

Weebles wobble but they don't fall down.

Posted by: Robert at June 27, 2023 05:40 PM (1Yy3c)

30 20 How much of that 74% is because they don't think we're leftwing enough?
Posted by: McLurkerson at June 27, 2023 05:38 PM (wNDOJ)

In my area... The majority

Posted by: It's me donna at June 27, 2023 05:40 PM (bs+z0)

31 Apparently only 36% of Republicans know how the Gov is supposed to work. Awesome.
That number isn't for Republicans, but for all voters. It's supposed to be trouble for the GOP, according to NBC. >>

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at June 27, 2023 05:40 PM (XMwZJ)

32 Suck on your dog king, peasants. There is nothing you can do about it.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 27, 2023 05:40 PM (wsSEe)

33 Given how test scores have been declining year over year for decades, I'd have guessed the median IQ would be lower.
Posted by: bonhomme at June 27, 2023 05:38 PM (R38qh)

May be. Anyway, having an IQ above 100 is rasis anyway.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 27, 2023 05:40 PM (pohLc)

34 re 22: if you only based that on dem voters, the median would still be 100. half of these people believe that lincoln was a dem and george wallace was a repub

Posted by: gnats local 678 at June 27, 2023 05:40 PM (B1FKF)

35 I can see allowing abortions within the first week for the cases of rape and incest as long as there are criminal charges filed on the rapists.

The canard about the 6 week delay deal is too short because some women don't even know they're pregnant yet. They ought to know immediately that were raped or incested.

Posted by: DanMan at June 27, 2023 05:40 PM (DB6tu)

36
Yup, I saw a poll where the number was 80%. Then someone here suggested that the left thinks they haven't gone 'woke' enough and that is why they piled on and answered that way.

The reply left me somewhat dumb-founded. Which is a great word.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 27, 2023 05:41 PM (enJYY)

37 How many of the 67% think Biden hasn't enough Trump supporters to the DC Gulag?

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 27, 2023 05:41 PM (ga8qR)

38 Redd Foxx makes me laugh.

Thank you, Lamont.

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 27, 2023 05:41 PM (KIR+o)

39 And this country will still reelect Biden for 4 more years.

Posted by: redridinghood at June 27, 2023 05:41 PM (NpAcC)

40 Why don't Americans realize how good they have it the tyranny of Senile Joe? /sarcasm

Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at June 27, 2023 05:41 PM (VdGjU)

41 Is this Lamont related to Marc Lamont Hill?

Posted by: President Select Decaf at June 27, 2023 05:41 PM (3JfbU)

42 Is it? Given how test scores have been declining year over year for decades, I'd have guessed the median IQ would be lower.
Posted by: bonhomme at June 27, 2023 05:38 PM (R38qh)
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iirc, they scale it based on results, so 100 is always the average no matter the results

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 27, 2023 05:41 PM (AG7v3)

43 In each of those elections, Democrats Bill Clinton and Barack Obama snatched the Oval Office back from Republicans.

I can see Bubba doing the snatching but not the Dog Eater.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 27, 2023 05:41 PM (guGkK)

44 39 And this country will still reelect Biden for 4 more years.
Posted by: redridinghood at June 27, 2023 05:41 PM (NpAcC)

Probably.. Then it will end up being an actual Weekend at Bernie's

Posted by: It's me donna at June 27, 2023 05:42 PM (bs+z0)

45 I just dont think this is translating to how people are voting, unfortunately.

2022 should have been a banner year to "not" be a Democrat. Easily the worst President of my lifetime is Joe Biden and the Democrat Party has gone batshit crazy. But Americans largely went with the same horse.

Something needs to change. It should be low hanging fruit. Almost everyone is miserable right now.

Posted by: Blago at June 27, 2023 05:42 PM (STGfL)

46 Dear Mr. The Cromulent,

My bad.

Posted by: DOYLE at June 27, 2023 05:42 PM (Z8Yh2)

47 NBC poll? m'kay
Posted by: DanMan at June 27, 2023 05:35 PM (DB6tu)

That was my reaction as well. The numbers must be really bad then.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at June 27, 2023 05:42 PM (3JfbU)

48 61% of voters are constitutionally illiterate

The educational system is too far gone for people to care about things like federalism, separation of powers, etc. People in this country see the Constitution in purely instrumental terms, not as a body of neutral principles that is to be applied even when it gores their ox.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at June 27, 2023 05:42 PM (ppBhU)

49 re 29: or as mr floppy from the toy store half price bin said, weebles wobble but they don't go down. and if you don't know what old sitcom that line is from, you don't know what a hot redhead looks like

Posted by: gnats local 678 at June 27, 2023 05:43 PM (B1FKF)

50
It wouldn't even surprise me slightly if the Party wants to sacrifice the '24 cycle to the Mensheviks.

This is a perfect time for (R)enfield to play some defense.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 27, 2023 05:44 PM (oINRc)

51 People in this country see the Constitution in purely instrumental terms, not as a body of neutral principles that is to be applied even when it gores their ox.

Government as half monarchy, half Uncle Sugar.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 27, 2023 05:44 PM (guGkK)

52 >>74% of Americans Say That the Country Is On the Wrong Track

The other 26% got high.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 27, 2023 05:44 PM (up/3i)

53 re 45: or maybe because before the election:

a - kevin mccarthy said impeaching biden was off the table

b - lindsey graham called for a national ban on abortion

Posted by: gnats local 678 at June 27, 2023 05:45 PM (B1FKF)

54 The 58-year-old's -17 favorability spread. Gross

Posted by: SOMEASSHOLESTOLEMYPEN at June 27, 2023 05:45 PM (ytSiK)

55 NBC poll? m'kay
Posted by: DanMan at June 27, 2023 05:35 PM (DB6tu)

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Was it done before the pride month and naked trannies and the kink flag at the White House?

Let's see how it shakes out after the summer of pride.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at June 27, 2023 05:45 PM (3JfbU)

56 On the wrong track, but why? I’ll bet you at least 25% of these “wrong track” respondents are disappointed that things haven’t moved as far leftward as they want. This country is so totally fucked that even crack whores blush at the level of total fuckedness this country is in.

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 27, 2023 05:45 PM (BJixe)

57 David Strom: London police join forces with pedophilia proponent

https://tinyurl.com/4pxw9mph

Posted by: Robert at June 27, 2023 05:45 PM (1Yy3c)

58 The educational system is too far gone for people to care about things like federalism, separation of powers, etc. People in this country see the Constitution in purely instrumental terms, not as a body of neutral principles that is to be applied even when it gores their ox.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at June 27, 2023 05:42 PM (ppBhU)

———

That’s half why I say the Republic status is DEAD.

The other half is the entrenched bureaucracy which is antithetical to a free state.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at June 27, 2023 05:46 PM (KbD1x)

59 To be honest, I really don't like Trump or DeSantis... Wish we had another choice... I don't count any of the other rabble on the Rep side in this as being contenders

Posted by: It's me donna at June 27, 2023 05:46 PM (bs+z0)

60 It must be hard work for the media to hide Captain Dementia' corruption and senility.

Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at June 27, 2023 05:46 PM (VdGjU)

61 "Voters are souring on the state of the nation, with a stunning 74% saying the US is on the wrong track, according to a survey released Sunday."

And what percentage of that percentage are leftists who think the country isn't turning full communist fast enough?

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at June 27, 2023 05:46 PM (9yUzE)

62 i am sure that there are people who think that if trump were still president we'd all be dead or in jail

Posted by: gnats local 678 at June 27, 2023 05:46 PM (B1FKF)

63 Most of the Dems who think the country is on the wrong track would still vote Dem. You can't fix stupid

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 27, 2023 05:47 PM (/WhKw)

64 >>> By contrast, just 32% of Americans say they view Harris positively, and only 11% say they have a "very positive" view.

They polled elementary school kids for the 11%.

Posted by: DJ at June 27, 2023 05:48 PM (uosPt)

65 The other 26% are LGBTQ, trannies, MSM and 40 million illegal aliens.
Posted by: Ripley at June 27, 2023 05:37 PM (K+BZP)

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They are counting on illegals to firm up the next election steal.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at June 27, 2023 05:49 PM (3JfbU)

66 i wonder what the chances are that kamala will get to guest host saturday night live. maybe she can fall down a flight of stairs like chevy chase used to do.

or maybe they get biden to do that

Posted by: gnats local 678 at June 27, 2023 05:50 PM (B1FKF)

67 I have to assume that the 11% that viewed Harris "very positively" were just pulling the pollsters leg. Nobody is that fucking delusional...right? Right????

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at June 27, 2023 05:50 PM (XMwZJ)

68 re 63: or vote for bernie sanders again.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at June 27, 2023 05:50 PM (B1FKF)

69 61% of voters disapprove of the Supreme Court's ruling last year overturning federal abortion right

Priming the pump to explain why Biden gets 110% of registered voters vote. Easily beating Trump's 56% of registered voters....

Oops all in the ballot box now. No way to separate them. No proof the election was rigged...

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 27, 2023 05:50 PM (ga8qR)

70 45 I just dont think this is translating to how people are voting, unfortunately.

2022 should have been a banner year to "not" be a Democrat. Easily the worst President of my lifetime is Joe Biden and the Democrat Party has gone batshit crazy. But Americans largely went with the same horse.

Something needs to change. It should be low hanging fruit. Almost everyone is miserable right now.

Posted by: Blago at June 27, 2023 05:42 PM (STGfL)

The Democrat/Media Complex tells the Twitter mob, the TikTok mob, the Karens, and all the rest of the LIVs and idiots: "Yes, the country is on the wrong track! Because Republicans are blocking Democrat plans to improve your lives!" Unfortunately, this messaging works too well.

Posted by: Gref at June 27, 2023 05:51 PM (AMIL/)

71 i fear that the desantis campaign will be a throwback to compassionate conservative or what ever karl rove and paul ryan push. move on.
Posted by: gnats local 678 at June 27, 2023 05:39 PM (B1FKF)

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Follow the money. Who are his donors?

Posted by: President Select Decaf at June 27, 2023 05:51 PM (3JfbU)

72 The 61 % against the SCOTUS ruling on abortion is troubling... I am against abortion and should be glad but it seems States that make the new abortion laws are getting over turned anyway... Can't win for losing

Posted by: It's me donna at June 27, 2023 05:51 PM (bs+z0)

73
But PredictIt has Biden up by 20%!!!!!!

*RIP Intrade*

Posted by: In before the troll at June 27, 2023 05:51 PM (n+4am)

74 To be honest, I really don't like Trump or DeSantis... Wish we had another choice... I don't count any of the other rabble on the Rep side in this as being contenders
Posted by: It's me donna

____

I'm actually not totally enamored with DeSantis, despite what people think. I think he's painted himself into a sort of Ted Cruz-like lane. But what I dont get is if you're willing to lose and be "right" on the issues, he's the one you should be voting for and not Trump.

Trump is a guaranteed losing bet, around 55%+ of the country will never vote for him no matter what. His 2016 win was a one-off. Democrats have done really well with Trump as our leader ever since.

Posted by: Blago at June 27, 2023 05:52 PM (STGfL)

75 A certain portion of that 74% thinks that we aren't hurtling leftward fast enough...

Posted by: gourmand du jour at June 27, 2023 05:52 PM (MeG8a)

76 re 72: allowing voters to decide those things is a bad idea, because they might vote the wrong way

Posted by: gnats local 678 at June 27, 2023 05:53 PM (B1FKF)

77 Calling it now:

Joe Biden will break 100 million votes and sweep all 50 states. They will make the worst, most hated president in history have the biggest win in presidential electoral history. Bigger than Washington!
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 27, 2023 05:39 PM (wsSEe)

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Without a doubt. The illegals have been transported to where they will be needed. You are not important, you don't vote Dem.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at June 27, 2023 05:53 PM (3JfbU)

78 >>> 72 The 61 % against the SCOTUS ruling on abortion is troubling... I am against abortion and should be glad but it seems States that make the new abortion laws are getting over turned anyway... Can't win for losing
Posted by: It's me donna at June 27, 2023 05:51 PM (bs+z0)

I'd like to see exactly how the question was phrased, and for that matter, how many of those who responded grasp the fcking concept that it was simply pushed back to the states?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 27, 2023 05:53 PM (llON8)

79
So, 61% of Americans think it's OK to abort a full-term fetus? I don't think so.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 27, 2023 05:53 PM (MoZTd)

80 Kamala makes Dan Quayle look like an otherworldly super genius

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 27, 2023 05:53 PM (MZi6e)

81
Also, polls are for strippers, as always.

But the wrong track/right track thing is more silly than most questions.

If you're a voter, it's a civic religion for you. Wrong track? Well, that's on the the particular priest in question. The Church is still good, and you'll go to church on Tuesday, and you'll fill the plate when it's passed.

If your Anglican loses, and the Episcopalian wins, you'll excoriate him for 2-4 years while he divvies up the collections with the Anglican. And then turn out nice 'n' hard for the next Most Important Sermon of Our Lives.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 27, 2023 05:53 PM (oINRc)

82 There's also a big red flag for the GOP: 61% of voters disapprove of the Supreme Court's ruling last year overturning federal abortion rights, while only 36% approve.
NBC poll about future of the United States.

10 61% of voters are constitutionally illiterate.
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent

Yes. One thing though. It's an NBC poll so the numbers were skewed so that their cult like followers will have a softish landing. Unfortunately, Reality doesn't care about the feelings of cultists.

Posted by: Puddleglum at June 27, 2023 05:53 PM (sAmhv)

83
Yes. One thing though. It's an NBC poll so the numbers were skewed so that their cult like followers will have a softish landing. Unfortunately, Reality doesn't care about the feelings of cultists.
Posted by: Puddleglum at June 27, 2023 05:53 PM (sAmhv)

Which is why I don't trust polls

Posted by: It's me donna at June 27, 2023 05:54 PM (bs+z0)

84 @26 ...

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - we are being gaslighted 24/365 at June 27, 2023 05:54 PM (dwh5k)

85 @59

>>To be honest, I really don't like Trump or DeSantis... Wish we had another choice.

In my lifetime there have been exactly three Republican politicians I have had the ability to vote for and been able to say, that was my guy and been happy with them..

Ronald Reagan, Rudy Giuliani and Donald Trump.

Three people, 40 years, that's it.

Quality Politian's are not a dime a dozen, they are black swans, beautiful black swans, the best black swans, everyone says so.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 27, 2023 05:55 PM (up/3i)

86

I wish I could eat my own boogers while screwing my left ear...

Posted by: Average Democrat Supporter at June 27, 2023 05:55 PM (LAHV4)

87 Yeah, the median IQ in the US is 100. Take that for what it's worth.

Is it? Given how test scores have been declining year over year for decades, I'd have guessed the median IQ would be lower.
Posted by: bonhomme at June 27, 2023 05:38 PM (R38qh)

I've read as low as 90 for the median, which would be scary.

And would certainly explain a lot.

But, that seems to be a minority opinion. Usually the median is listed as 100.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 27, 2023 05:55 PM (fb7jX)

88 Lol
Lamont picks and chooses within this. Poll which numbers he thinks are valid
The 61% favoring legal abortion is actually the lowest polling I have seen lately
Most are in the high 60s

Posted by: Paul at June 27, 2023 05:56 PM (WuTgm)

89
Poll question: Do you approve of abortion restrictions similar to those in Europe?

Let's phrase it that way and see if we still get 61%.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 27, 2023 05:56 PM (MoZTd)

90 I really wish the SC had not overturned Roe vs Wade.
There, I said it. Would have preferred it whittled away to not scare the shit out of women.

I think if anything, it probably just supercharged pro-abortion laws and elected pro-choice Democrats. We had a good thing going saying we were pro-life and not having to explain it.

I will give credit that Tump is making the right noises that we need to drop it. Even Red States cant get tough abortion laws enacted by their electorate.

Posted by: Blago at June 27, 2023 05:56 PM (STGfL)

91 I wonder what percent of the country thinks the walls are closing in?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at June 27, 2023 05:57 PM (5UFbS)

92 I don't find it hard to believe that a majority disagree with the Supreme Court on abortion. Abortion was a terrific issue for the GOP because it was an empty issue: so long as the Court essentially kept abortion off limits legislatively (wehter federal or state), Republicans could profess to be morally aghast and raise money on the issue. But all these GOP officeholders belong to the same social class as the rest of Washington; they're not about to let the daughters they didn't bother to raise be burdened by unwanted pregnancies any more than Democrats. Same is just as true of much of the middle class in general with its upper class aspirations. It's easy to be against something when its abolition is theoretical.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at June 27, 2023 05:58 PM (ppBhU)

93 Lamont managed to wipe the blog out for a while earlier. Except the ads, they stayed.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 27, 2023 05:38 PM

Dang
I'm sorry I missed that

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at June 27, 2023 05:58 PM (lPgXk)

94 Not to worry, Bumpstock Donny will fix everything just right.

Posted by: Maj. Healey Concerned About Due Process Rights at June 27, 2023 05:58 PM (9RRW+)

95 Low hanging fruit.

But enough about my balls.

Posted by: Old Queen at June 27, 2023 05:58 PM (4I/2K)

96 I will give credit that Tump is making the right noises that we need to drop it. Even Red States cant get tough abortion laws enacted by their electorate.
Posted by: Blago at June 27, 2023 05:56 PM (STGfL)

We did in Oklahoma.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at June 27, 2023 05:58 PM (BdMk6)

97
I will give credit that Tump is making the right noises that we need to drop it. Even Red States cant get tough abortion laws enacted by their electorate.
Posted by: Blago at June 27, 2023 05:56 PM (STGfL)

Can't? LOL.

Try "won't."

13 states passed trigger laws against the day that nobody ever thought would come.

The GOP is now the dog that caught the car, and are trying to whistle past this.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 27, 2023 05:58 PM (oINRc)

98 39 And this country will still reelect Biden for 4 more years.
Posted by: redridinghood

Well, installed, like bad software, but yes. Prepare for more Biden.

Posted by: Puddleglum at June 27, 2023 05:59 PM (sAmhv)

99 1992 - Ross Perot as a third party took out Bush. Not a big deal.

2008 - GOP runs McCain. I doubt I would have voted until Palin joined that ticket.

Posted by: DanMan at June 27, 2023 05:59 PM (DB6tu)

100
Until the (R) party has candidates that retreat just a few mere degrees from 'NO ABORTION UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES WHATSOEVER!' and can generate just a few measly ounces of empathy for rape and incest victims they're gonna score a solid SECOND PLACE finish in every election.

Women don't wanna bear some monsters child. To hell I may go for seeing things this way, but me and St. Peter are gonna have a few words on this after he pulls my thick binder down from the shelf.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 27, 2023 05:59 PM (enJYY)

101 I think everyone is putting far too much weight on a bunch of numbers that bear the same relation to reality as 2020 / 2022 vote totals ...

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - we are being gaslighted 24/365 at June 27, 2023 05:59 PM (dwh5k)

102 I'm pretty sure Joe loses 10 percent of his brain every time he blows his nose.

Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at June 27, 2023 06:00 PM (VdGjU)

103 93 Lamont managed to wipe the blog out for a while earlier. Except the ads, they stayed.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 27, 2023 05:38 PM

Dang
I'm sorry I missed that
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at June 27, 2023 05:58 PM (lPgXk)

Ads are like the Poor… they will always be with us.

Posted by: tubal at June 27, 2023 06:00 PM (PCK5/)

104 Here is some important legal advice:

https://tinyurl.com/5n6843re

Posted by: bonhomme at June 27, 2023 06:00 PM (R38qh)

105 Yes. One thing though. It's an NBC poll so the numbers were skewed so that their cult like followers will have a softish landing. Unfortunately, Reality doesn't care about the feelings of cultists.
Posted by: Puddleglum at June 27, 2023 05:53 PM (sAmhv)

Which is why I don't trust polls
Posted by: It's me donna

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I dont really doubt though if you had a nationwide vote on abortion, the pro-life position of 99% of abortions being outlawed would lose by a massive margin.

Kansas tried to pass a law like that and it went down hard, despite being just about the most Republican and socially conservative state in the US.

Posted by: Blago at June 27, 2023 06:00 PM (STGfL)

106 I have consistently said nothing will change unless the majority of the population is made "uncomfortable."

The definition of "uncomfortable" is obviously debatable, but it suggests a level of unrest within any given demographic with their perceived level of "comfort."

Many more are feeling "uncomfortable."

The GOP will make every effort to stymie this.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 27, 2023 06:01 PM (Q4IgG)

107 90 I really wish the SC had not overturned Roe vs Wade.
There, I said it. Would have preferred it whittled away to not scare the shit out of women.

Posted by: Blago at June 27, 2023 05:56 PM (STGfL)

Disagree. It has accelerated the sorting of the US into what will eventually be two different countries.

If you love killing babies, please by all means run screaming from states where the majority of people do not and cloister yourselves with other demons in places like California and Maryland where abortion is a sacrament.

Posted by: ballistic at June 27, 2023 06:01 PM (oXNqT)

108 With it being an NBC poll, probably 20% of those saying the country is not on the right track believe that there hasn't been ENOUGH Cultural Marxism, pissing in the faces of "cis" Christian "fundamentalists" and their children, totalitarian crackdowns on, and - better yet - pogroms against, muh white supramahcy!!! Etc. Etc.

Still, the senile, pedophile puppet is living on borrowed time. The gangster regime is now likely to replace him with another puppet before they rig the 2024 "election."

Posted by: Bamanarama at June 27, 2023 06:01 PM (uH1aC)

109
g'early evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at June 27, 2023 06:01 PM (ENBF0)

110 Before getting to excited about this…

In September 2012 Gallup had 68% dissatisfied with the direction of the country. And 2 months later Obama easily won and Dems kept the senate.

Posted by: Hollywood at June 27, 2023 06:01 PM (ZMq/F)

111 >>Even Red States cant get tough abortion laws enacted by their electorate.

huh? you don't get out much do you?

Posted by: DanMan at June 27, 2023 06:01 PM (DB6tu)

112 Who doesn't love a yellow school bus?

Posted by: wth at June 27, 2023 06:01 PM (v0R5T)

113 41 Is this Lamont related to Marc Lamont Hill?

i think it's the singer from the first episode of photon: the idiot adventures.

Posted by: anachronda at June 27, 2023 06:02 PM (v3pYe)

114 Another homo says he got attacked by MAGAs. But...

Scott Rowin, 39, said he was attacked in a hate crime while walking through Hillcrest, San Diego, on June 12. But cops now say he was the one who started the assault.

Gay man who claims he lit up 'like coals on a barbecue' by homophobic attackers LIED - and was seen on video beating up a pregnant woman who doused him in flammable liquid to protect herself

Posted by: Racer X at June 27, 2023 06:02 PM (iayUP)

115 41 Is this Lamont related to Marc Lamont Hill?
Posted by: President Select Decaf

NO!! i IZ smURtz pruFZer At uNIvoRisitY!! AcEE iz dUmBO nUzi!! he Iz al5o dIRti jOoOS!!

i IZ smurtz!!

Posted by: mArc lUMonT HilZ, prUfe5or at June 27, 2023 06:02 PM (sAmhv)

116 and came from the same source!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - we are being gaslighted 24/365 at June 27, 2023 06:03 PM (dwh5k)

117 As far as the Pubbie nominee in 24… Trump it is, barring his death. Expect a sizable swath of the GOP to disavow him before the election.

Posted by: tubal at June 27, 2023 06:03 PM (PCK5/)

118 Big Mike is very tanned, rested and ready.

Posted by: The JEF at June 27, 2023 06:03 PM (lZVy/)

119 I voted for Mutt, Crash, shrub, Dole, and Clenis.

I am ashamed.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 27, 2023 06:03 PM (79Su5)

120 Perhaps those who are pro abortion at any stage should be made to watch the results of one

Posted by: It's me donna at June 27, 2023 06:03 PM (bs+z0)

121 What % of that dissatisfaction is thinking there’s a white supremacist behind every shadow? Because I’d bet for a good chunk of leftists that’s why they’re dissatisfied.

Posted by: Montec at June 27, 2023 06:03 PM (ZMq/F)

122 Poll’s don’t matter, vote’s don’t mater. Whichever democrat runs is going to win, unless it’s a uniparty approved “Republican’.

Posted by: Charles Martel at June 27, 2023 06:03 PM (VBKyf)

123 The last time voters were that bitter about the nation's course --

...the media and Deep State were gleefully fanning the flames. This time they're facing some harsh truths about their power.

Posted by: t-bird at June 27, 2023 06:04 PM (dNNCD)

124
I think I'm going to have to bow out of this thread, lest I say something intemperate.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 27, 2023 06:05 PM (MoZTd)

125 The two beautiful things about overturning Roe: 1. That was the correct constitutional position, 2. Anyone running for federal office can easily say it’s a state issue (are you listening, Miss Lindsey?). Doesn’t have to be electoral poison (as if voting matters)

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 27, 2023 06:05 PM (MZi6e)

126 Ask that 61% to explain the ruling NBC. Idiots.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at June 27, 2023 06:06 PM (W7Wi6)

127 Speaker McCarthy: ‘Trump Is Stronger Today Than He Was in 2016’

Posted by: Maj. Healey Concerned About Due Process Rights at June 27, 2023 06:06 PM (9RRW+)

128 Gay man who claims he lit up 'like coals on a barbecue' by homophobic attackers LIED - and was seen on video beating up a pregnant woman who doused him in flammable liquid to protect herself
Posted by: Racer X

Surprised his flamboyancy did not ignite the liquid.

Posted by: Joe Mama at June 27, 2023 06:06 PM (lZVy/)

129 Kansas tried to pass a law like that and it went down hard, despite being just about the most Republican and socially conservative state in the US.
Posted by: Blago at June 27, 2023 06:00 PM (STGfL)

KS is at the bottom of the list as far as "conservative" states are concerned. At it's most conservative, it could be listed as a solid GOPe.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at June 27, 2023 06:06 PM (BdMk6)

130 @97

>>The GOP is now the dog that caught the car, and are trying to whistle past this.

What the GOP needs to do, but ultimately will never do, is show, in the most graphic way possible, what an abortion is, what it looks like, graphically, what it looks like in practice and what it looks like in the aftermath.

If a large majority of this country can look at that and still support abolition, then the country is lost and can never be salvaged.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 27, 2023 06:06 PM (up/3i)

131 127 Speaker McCarthy: ‘Trump Is Stronger Today Than He Was in 2016’
Posted by: Maj. Healey Concerned About Due Process Rights at June 27, 2023 06:06 PM (9RRW+)

McCarthy said that ?

Posted by: It's me donna at June 27, 2023 06:06 PM (bs+z0)

132 Perhaps those who are pro abortion at any stage should be made to watch the results of one
Posted by: It's me donna
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Dont get me wrong, the Democrats aren't pro-choice, they are pro abortion. It's sick.

But I'm not going to pretend it's not a winning issue for Democrats.

But I cant wait to see the same people that say this is the most important issue ever give Trump a complete pass when he runs as a pro-choice Republican.

Posted by: Blago at June 27, 2023 06:06 PM (STGfL)

133
124
I think I'm going to have to bow out of this thread, lest I say something intemperate.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 27, 2023 06:05 PM (MoZTd)

Eh stick around pick a topic… we have a half dozen going, as usual, or create one.

Posted by: tubal at June 27, 2023 06:06 PM (PCK5/)

134 Permission to smack one of the %26 upside the head if I fund one?

Posted by: Skip at June 27, 2023 06:07 PM (xhxe8)

135 Oh, my... seems some of the Anti Trump witnesses are the Secret Service agents assigned to him.

Does this mean we get to go talk to Hil and Bill's agents? or Obama's?

So, for Trump, no attorney client privilege... they already killed that. No Executive Privilege. And now they are going to use his bodyguards as witnesses against him... breaking the final seal IMO.

What next... go after Trump's priest of Pastor? Force his wife to testify against him?

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 27, 2023 06:07 PM (oHd/0)

136 > Gay man who claims he lit up 'like coals on a barbecue' by homophobic attackers LIED - and was seen on video beating up a pregnant woman who doused him in flammable liquid to protect herself

I'm sorry, what?

She was carrying around lighter fluid or something? Or are we talking about old school alcohol based pepper spray? Or did she just pour some alcohol on him?

Posted by: bonhomme at June 27, 2023 06:07 PM (R38qh)

137 For those who are still pro-choice, I have a question.

What is the fetus? What is the unborn?

If you can honestly, and scientifically accurately, answer this question, the other moral considerations become easier to resolve.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 27, 2023 06:07 PM (PiwSw)

138 Have they factored in the quotient about the drug dealing skel who dies in police custody and the BLM riots that will support Democrats?

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at June 27, 2023 06:08 PM (87q/u)

139 >>McCarthy said that ?
Posted by: It's me donna

Yes he did. Unfortunately, he's a dog damn liar.

Posted by: Maj. Healey Concerned About Due Process Rights at June 27, 2023 06:08 PM (9RRW+)

140 Eh, the SC cut the abortion gordian knot by ruling according to the 10th Amendment.

The vote goes back to the states. Simple.

If Abortion is super popular, eventually there will be very liberal abortion laws in all the states.

If Abortion is not popular or wanted, there will be no abortion or very restricted abortion access.

But, you could always go to another state. There's no way that can be restricted at all. Libtard would be thrilled to fund an Underground Abortion Railroad.

So, panic is just that.

Republicans don't need to run. Just say the decision is in the hands of each state's voters and the voters will decide.

Honestly, you have to be an idiot to say anything more than that. Mostly, cause that's the truth and that's how things will probably work out.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 27, 2023 06:08 PM (fb7jX)

141
David Strom: London police join forces with pedophilia proponent

https://tinyurl.com/4pxw9mph
Posted by: Robert at June 27, 2023 05:45 PM (1Yy3c)

Fuck the Limeys. They're already a bunch of perfidious poofters with a penchant for buggery anyway.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 27, 2023 06:08 PM (n+4am)

142 >>But I cant wait to see the same people that say this is the most important issue ever give Trump a complete pass when he runs as a pro-choice Republican.

You might have to wait a while. He's campaigning as the most pro-life president in history.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 27, 2023 06:08 PM (ZLI7S)

143 Also comparing 1992 and2008 with 2024 is kind of apples and oranges. Bush would have won in 92 had it not been for Perot. And 2008 Obambamania was a once in a generation thing that transcended economics and whatever else. Bush the lesser could have had a 50% approval and Obama still would have won most likely.

Posted by: Montec at June 27, 2023 06:08 PM (ZMq/F)

144 Gay man = Jessie Smollett

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at June 27, 2023 06:09 PM (87q/u)

145 Note this is an NBC poll that claims that Biden beats Trump and ties DeSantis, so the real numbers are much worse.
_______

Go on believing that if it comforts you.

Posted by: Eeyore at June 27, 2023 06:09 PM (brAQZ)

146 Fuck the Limeys. They're already a bunch of perfidious poofters with a penchant for buggery anyway.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur

This is about us, isn't it?

Posted by: Royal Navy at June 27, 2023 06:10 PM (lZVy/)

147 What is the fetus? What is the unborn?

If you can honestly, and scientifically accurately, answer this question, the other moral considerations become easier to resolve.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 27, 2023 06:07 PM (PiwSw)

Shut up, they screech.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 27, 2023 06:10 PM (79Su5)

148 "She was carrying around lighter fluid or something? Or are we talking about old school alcohol based pepper spray? Or did she just pour some alcohol on him?
Posted by: bonhomme "

The story is at the DM. It just says she used fire in retaliation.

Posted by: Racer X at June 27, 2023 06:10 PM (iayUP)

149 Ross Perot was a billionaire shitbag.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at June 27, 2023 06:10 PM (87q/u)

150 We need our own Fetterman, even more brain damaged than theirs.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 27, 2023 06:10 PM (I8nLU)

151 I’d bet that if the citizenry were polled in 1775, at least 30% would have been pleased at the direction of the Colonies.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at June 27, 2023 06:10 PM (9eiYw)

152
Dominion software releases the latest version of their 'voter affirming' software. (Not yet on the Bee but should be soon)

Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 27, 2023 06:11 PM (enJYY)

153 Which I think is a pretty good idea.

Posted by: Racer X at June 27, 2023 06:11 PM (iayUP)

154 @129

>>KS is at the bottom of the list as far as "conservative" states are concerned. At it's most conservative, it could be listed as a solid GOPe.

Kansas elected Kathleen Seblius as Governor, the Abortion Queen.

Another mitigating factor in Kansas is, it's a main feeder state for high value adoptions, so that plays a factor in why they may rejected more restrictions.

In the final analysis, Kansas is an odd state.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 27, 2023 06:11 PM (up/3i)

155 151 I’d bet that if the citizenry were polled in 1775, at least 30% would have been pleased at the direction of the Colonies.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at June 27, 2023 06:10 PM (9eiYw

There were a lot of British loyalists

Posted by: It's me donna at June 27, 2023 06:11 PM (bs+z0)

156 Abortion is not now, and should never be, a Federal question.

Posted by: MkY at June 27, 2023 06:11 PM (cPGH3)

157 149 Ross Perot was a billionaire shitbag.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at June 27, 2023 06:10 PM (87q/u)

First victim of the Deep State.... go back and think about how he was treated... how they said he 'lost his mind'... how they said there were no credible threats against him...

Then factor in that the Elder Bush was the Father of the Deep State.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 27, 2023 06:11 PM (oHd/0)

158 We need our own Fetterman, even more brain damaged than theirs.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 27, 2023 06:10 PM (I8nLU)
.......

Quality Candidate.

Posted by: wth at June 27, 2023 06:12 PM (v0R5T)

159 Somebody had to make up the other 26%, right?

Posted by: The Young Affirmatives at June 27, 2023 06:12 PM (BGN7A)

160 Honestly, you have to be an idiot to say anything more than that. Mostly, cause that's the truth and that's how things will probably work out.
Posted by: naturalfake
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It should work out that way, but it never does.

These sorts of issues bleed into all political races.

Dems in federal races will say they'll appoint pro-Roe vs Wade judges to overturn the decision. Will give federal funding to abortion clinics. etc.

Even if a state has the most liberal abortion laws on the books, they'll claim the state Republican running wants to overturn them.

It's going to be a headwind for a while.

Posted by: Blago at June 27, 2023 06:12 PM (STGfL)

161
61% of voters are constitutionally illiterate.

Illiterate. Period.

Posted by: Auspex at June 27, 2023 06:12 PM (j4U/Z)

162 >>150 We need our own Fetterman, even more brain damaged than theirs.
Posted by: G'rump928(c)

Does a drool cup factor in? - US Senator Charles Grassley

Posted by: Maj. Healey Concerned About Due Process Rights at June 27, 2023 06:12 PM (9RRW+)

163 The Dems from 1968 to 2008 only had one candidate who won more than 50%—the currently living Jimmy Carter.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at June 27, 2023 06:12 PM (9eiYw)

164 >> We need our own Fetterman, even more brain damaged than theirs.

We need a little man.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 27, 2023 06:13 PM (ZLI7S)

165 155 151 I’d bet that if the citizenry were polled in 1775, at least 30% would have been pleased at the direction of the Colonies.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at June 27, 2023 06:10 PM (9eiYw

There were a lot of British loyalists
Posted by: It's me donna at June 27, 2023 06:11 PM (bs+z0)

Yes. A lot of colonists were doing very well financially.

Posted by: tubal at June 27, 2023 06:13 PM (PCK5/)

166 Let's face it.. This Country is F'ed up

Posted by: It's me donna at June 27, 2023 06:13 PM (bs+z0)

167 "Honestly, you have to be an idiot to say anything more than that."

this is about me, isn't it? - L. Graham

Posted by: Fool Otto at June 27, 2023 06:13 PM (DB16e)

168 The same poll says that 100% of Americans enthusiastically support Statism/Socialism.

In another development found in the poll, when asked if elections should be ended as they question the sole, exclusive right that the Democratic Party has to rule America as it and it alone sees fit, 100% of Americans agreed.

100% of Americans also agree with the statement that “people who belong to other parties should be arrested for treason”.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at June 27, 2023 06:13 PM (FbcWf)

169 At least in 1775, everyone would have agreed that adulterers should wear a scarlet A

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at June 27, 2023 06:13 PM (9eiYw)

170 161
61% of voters are constitutionally illiterate.

Illiterate. Period.
Posted by: Auspex at June 27, 2023 06:12 PM (j4U/Z)

Illiterate... that means sick of garbage on the streets?

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 27, 2023 06:13 PM (oHd/0)

171 Currently 12 states ban abortion entirely. 25 are straight up pagan. The rest have some restrictions, or have bills currently blocked by commie judges and, as far as I can tell, all first trimester dates as the cut off.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 27, 2023 06:13 PM (I8nLU)

172 Ross Perot was a much a part of the Deep State as The Bushes. He was a fraud and a parasite on the government tit.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at June 27, 2023 06:14 PM (87q/u)

173
You might have to wait a while. He's campaigning as the most pro-life president in history.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 27, 2023 06:08 PM

With a couple of (*) asterisks. Which I agree with.

Anyone with a daughter would agree with.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 27, 2023 06:14 PM (enJYY)

174 KS is at the bottom of the list as far as "conservative" states are concerned. At it's most conservative, it could be listed as a solid GOPe.
____

Hillary got like 35% of the vote in KS.

If that's a liberal state, then there's only like 2-3 states "red" enough.

Posted by: Blago at June 27, 2023 06:15 PM (STGfL)

175 172 Ross Perot was a much a part of the Deep State as The Bushes. He was a fraud and a parasite on the government tit.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at June 27, 2023 06:14 PM (87q/u)

It appears we have very different memories of that period... and I'll just leave it at that.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 27, 2023 06:15 PM (oHd/0)

176 We need our own Fetterman, even more brain damaged than theirs.

With a similar fashion sense.

Posted by: The Young Affirmatives at June 27, 2023 06:15 PM (BGN7A)

177 We need a little man.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 27, 2023 06:13 PM (ZLI7S)

Wouldn't we just be a bunch of johnny-come-latelies, no matter how stumpy he is.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 27, 2023 06:15 PM (I8nLU)

178 Overturning Roe won’t lead to fewer abortions. Unless there’s a ban nationwide, women in red states just drive a few hours to a blue state and get it there.

And even if there were a ban nationally, ask prohibition how well a ban on things people really want ends up working out?

Posted by: Montec at June 27, 2023 06:15 PM (ZMq/F)

179 > The story is at the DM. It just says she used fire in retaliation.

As one does.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 27, 2023 06:16 PM (R38qh)

180 >>> 178 Overturning Roe won’t lead to fewer abortions. Unless there’s a ban nationwide, women in red states just drive a few hours to a blue state and get it there.

And even if there were a ban nationally, ask prohibition how well a ban on things people really want ends up working out?
Posted by: Montec at June 27, 2023 06:15 PM (ZMq/F)

Joe Xiden? is that you??

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 27, 2023 06:17 PM (llON8)

181 What did Lamont do this time?

Posted by: eleven at June 27, 2023 06:17 PM (iziT8)

182 Joe Xiden? is that you??
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 27, 2023 06:17 PM (llON

*scans for EV comments*

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 27, 2023 06:17 PM (I8nLU)

183 Abortion is so last year.. They have a new shiny object.. Cutting off the sexual organs of kids and pumping them full of puberty blockers

Posted by: It's me donna at June 27, 2023 06:17 PM (bs+z0)

184 We need our own Fetterman, even more brain damaged than theirs.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 27, 2023 06:10 PM (I8nLU)
.........

A few large lipomas would be nice.

Posted by: wth at June 27, 2023 06:17 PM (v0R5T)

185 Overturning Roe won’t lead to fewer abortions. Unless there’s a ban nationwide, women in red states just drive a few hours to a blue state and get it there.

And even if there were a ban nationally, ask prohibition how well a ban on things people really want ends up working out?
Posted by: Montec

____

If I truly thought abortion laws "worked" I could maybe see going down with the ship. But it's like thinking marijuana laws worked.

I think Brazil had abortion outlawed for a while and they actually had more abortions than the US.

Posted by: Blago at June 27, 2023 06:18 PM (STGfL)

186 Trump got 72% of the vote in WV.

And Mylan Labs Manchin is the senator.

*shrugs shoulders*

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 27, 2023 06:18 PM (79Su5)

187 181 What did Lamont do this time?
Posted by: eleven

Nuked the blog earlier today but the ads survived. Like cockroaches. I missed it but it was discussed in one of the other posts.

Posted by: Puddleglum at June 27, 2023 06:18 PM (sAmhv)

188 Hillary got like 35% of the vote in KS.

If that's a liberal state, then there's only like 2-3 states "red" enough.
Posted by: Blago at June 27, 2023 06:15 PM (STGfL)

You have to go deeper than the 2016 prez election.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at June 27, 2023 06:19 PM (BdMk6)

189 KS is at the bottom of the list as far as "conservative" states are concerned. At it's most conservative, it could be listed as a solid GOPe.

—

It has a supermajority GOP legislature, Trump got 56% in 2020, which was a bigger share than in Florida, Ohio and Texas.

I mean come on. If that’s not a conservative state I don’t know what is.

Posted by: Montec at June 27, 2023 06:19 PM (ZMq/F)

190 21 11 Why is Lamont here ? Did he screw up ? Plus I do not trust polls even if they are favorable to my thinking
Posted by: It's me donna at June 27, 2023 05:37 PM (bs+z0)
Lamont managed to wipe the blog out for a while earlier. Except the ads, they stayed.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 27, 2023 05:38 PM (pohLc)

was wondering about that. I was at work, so just came back to Lamont for a couple of threads.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 27, 2023 06:19 PM (ynpvh)

191 The Great Grift: More than $200 billion in COVID-19 aid may have been stolen, federal watchdog says

We need another conservative Preezy that will sign another CARES act into law. This time make it $3T.

Posted by: Maj. Healey Concerned About Due Process Rights at June 27, 2023 06:19 PM (9RRW+)

192 I think I'm going to have to bow out of this thread, lest I say something intemperate.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 27, 2023 06:05 PM (MoZTd)
====
My mind reels with the possibilities!

But please do carry on...

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 27, 2023 06:19 PM (RIvkX)

193 Nobody has been drafted in 50 years.

There is part of the problem.

Posted by: torabora at June 27, 2023 06:20 PM (OUiUM)

194 Look now, the beauty of the Dobbs ruling is that it lets the pagans do what the pagans do while letting the free states have a say in their own governance.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 27, 2023 06:20 PM (I8nLU)

195 189 KS is at the bottom of the list as far as "conservative" states are concerned. At it's most conservative, it could be listed as a solid GOPe.

—

It has a supermajority GOP legislature, Trump got 56% in 2020, which was a bigger share than in Florida, Ohio and Texas.

I mean come on. If that’s not a conservative state I don’t know what is.

Posted by: Montec at June 27, 2023 06:19 PM (ZMq/F)

The big cities are libbie blue, and cheat like it too. Back when Ted Cruz was running the last time, they caught a guy involved in voter fraud that could have resulted in something like 800K fake votes. Not a small issue.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 27, 2023 06:20 PM (ynpvh)

196 An opinion I heard about abortion and it's not entirely wrong:

This is about poor women and how our society regards children.
Rich lib women will be able to get an abortion on demand regardless of address.
The problem is that our society regards children as a luxury good.
Poor women getting pregnant is therefore a problem.
The Right will try to shame the poor women who get pregnant.
The Left will encourage the poor woman to proudly kill her child.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at June 27, 2023 06:21 PM (vHIgi)

197 "Nuked the blog earlier today but the ads survived. Like cockroaches."

That's so Lamont.

Posted by: eleven at June 27, 2023 06:21 PM (iziT8)

198 It has a supermajority GOP legislature, Trump got 56% in 2020, which was a bigger share than in Florida, Ohio and Texas.

I mean come on. If that’s not a conservative state I don’t know what is.
Posted by: Montec
___

I guess we can all just live in Oklahoma and we should be happy with it. How dare anyone think we need to to be able to find a way to win some purple states.

Posted by: Blago at June 27, 2023 06:21 PM (STGfL)

199
Ross Perot was a billionaire shitbag.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at June 27, 2023 06:10 PM (87q/u)

First victim of the Deep State.... go back and think about how he was treated... how they said he 'lost his mind'... how they said there were no credible threats against him...

Then factor in that the Elder Bush was the Father of the Deep State.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 27, 2023 06:11 PM (oHd/0)

The one thing about Perot that I can't forgive is that he dragged Jim Stockdale into the slime pit of politics without prepping him (and basically without Stockdale's approval beforehand), and hung him out to dry.

Stockdale was a decent man, a genuine American Hero and he deserved better.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 27, 2023 06:21 PM (n+4am)

200 Hey, these fucking demons can't kill the kid in the womb, they destroy the kid after he/she is born.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 27, 2023 06:21 PM (79Su5)

201 Montec

Dem governor, because corrupt GOP Rinos in KS hated an excellent candidate - Kris Kobach.

All the luminaries, like Nancy Landon Kassebaum, etc, said vote for a stupid Dem gov.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at June 27, 2023 06:22 PM (u82oZ)

202 McConnell was primaried by a conservative.

That didn't work.

Posted by: torabora at June 27, 2023 06:22 PM (OUiUM)

203 193 Nobody has been drafted in 50 years.

There is part of the problem.

Posted by: torabora at June 27, 2023 06:20 PM (OUiUM)

Was too young then am too old now, unless they change the age limits again. Also not healthy enough either (have a transplant). Then again that 87(?) year-old surgeon got his papers during one of the Gulf Wars...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 27, 2023 06:22 PM (ynpvh)

204 I have heard that Lamont is not as big a dummy as his detractors say. In public or group settings he is reticent and a little self conscious, but in one-on-one situations he is really quite glib and downright charming.

I say cut him some slack.

Posted by: Muldoon at June 27, 2023 06:22 PM (kXYt5)

205 Abortion is so last year.. They have a new shiny object.. Cutting off the sexual organs of kids and pumping them full of puberty blockers
Posted by: It's me donna at June 27, 2023 06:17 PM (bs+z0)

Yeah, that's my read.

Everyone with even a shoe size IQ has figured out that women who want to kill their babies still can, and those who don't, won't.

It's not an emergency, or even a problem, except to those who still are abortion maniacs who want to twist everyone arms to accept killing the baby even as it's heading out of the womb.

And there just aren't that many of those.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 27, 2023 06:22 PM (fb7jX)

206 Good thing there are no relevant news stories going on in the US to talk about. Gave Mark Levin the space he needed to screech about the minutiae of Israeli politics for his entire opening segment.

What an increasingly loathsome man he is.

Posted by: ballistic at June 27, 2023 06:22 PM (oXNqT)

207 The big cities are libbie blue, and cheat like it too. Back when Ted Cruz was running the last time, they caught a guy involved in voter fraud that could have resulted in something like 800K fake votes. Not a small issue.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

Bingo, jim.
Johnson County is the largest population county in the state. It abuts Jackson County, Mo., and they have the same methods for insuring that the "proper" people get elected.
Don't even need all the w(h)ine Moms to make it work, but it helps.

Posted by: MkY at June 27, 2023 06:23 PM (cPGH3)

208 197 "Nuked the blog earlier today but the ads survived. Like cockroaches."

That's so Lamont.

Posted by: eleven at June 27, 2023 06:21 PM (iziT

LOL, such poetry.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 27, 2023 06:23 PM (ynpvh)

209 Actor Julian Sands has been missing since January. His remains were found near Mount Baldy. They're calling it a hiking accident.

I remember him as Dr Julian Sands from Arachnophobia. He's the spider expert who gets brought in to investigate. He's a distinctive looking guy who played some neat minor characters in a lot of lesser known movies.

https://tinyurl.com/wp96n2mb

Posted by: bonhomme at June 27, 2023 06:23 PM (R38qh)

210 Note this is an NBC poll that claims that Biden beats Trump and ties DeSantis

--

Has anyone ever explained how DeSantis is going to get the record-setting numbers of working class stiffs, blacks, hispanics, and crossover Democrats like Trump did in 2016 and 2020?

I mean, ignoring the "how to beat the steal part" entirely. Just explaining how to pull historic black and hispanic turnout would be a start.

Posted by: The recovered remains of Hitler's cocaine filled flying submarine at June 27, 2023 06:24 PM (wCgji)

211 "Lamont the Big Dummy"

How were you snookered this time, Ace?

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at June 27, 2023 06:24 PM (Mzdiz)

212 What is the fetus? What is the unborn?

If you can honestly, and scientifically accurately, answer this question, the other moral considerations become easier to resolve.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 27, 2023 06:07 PM (PiwSw)

Shut up, they screech.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 27, 2023 06:10 PM (79Su5)

Democrats favor POST BIRTH Abortion. This was shown in Virginia.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 27, 2023 06:24 PM (eoQWY)

213 The Right will try to shame the poor women who get pregnant.

Only if you're using "poor" as a euphemism for unmarried.

Posted by: Oddbob at June 27, 2023 06:25 PM (nfrXX)

214 KS has a Dem for. Governor and the abortion bill was poorly written. But there are pro-life signs still on the highways here.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 27, 2023 06:25 PM (ouTlx)

215 I guess we can all just live in Oklahoma and we should be happy with it. How dare anyone think we need to to be able to find a way to win some purple states.

Posted by: Blago at June 27, 2023 06:21 PM (STGfL)

We're happy being obscure. Keeps the out-of-state flys away.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at June 27, 2023 06:25 PM (BdMk6)

216 Lamont, have some of this Champipple

Posted by: Grady and Skillet at June 27, 2023 06:25 PM (gHjnL)

217 We need our own Fetterman, even more brain damaged than theirs.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 27, 2023 06:10 PM (I8nLU)
===

Otter: Dead! Bluto's right. Psychotic... but absolutely right. We gotta take these bastards. Now we could do it with conventional weapons, but that could take years and cost millions of lives. No, I think we have to go all out. I think that this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody's part!
Bluto: We're just the guys to do it.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 27, 2023 06:25 PM (RIvkX)

218 Dem governor, because corrupt GOP Rinos in KS hated an excellent candidate - Kris Kobach.

All the luminaries, like Nancy Landon Kassebaum, etc, said vote for a stupid Dem gov.
Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at June 27, 2023 06:22 PM (u82oZ)

Wyoming had a Dem governor between 2003 and 2011. Does that mean Wyoming was liberal in the 2000s? Yeah sometimes conservative states vote Dems in. It’s retarded but it happens quite often. Mass has had several GOP governors over the decades too. Doesn’t make Mass conservative.

Posted by: Montec at June 27, 2023 06:25 PM (ZMq/F)

219 209 Actor Julian Sands has been missing since January. His remains were found near Mount Baldy. They're calling it a hiking accident.

***

RIP
He was a good actor.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at June 27, 2023 06:25 PM (vHIgi)

220 The Right will try to shame the poor women who get pregnant.

--

Yes. Yes, please.

I'm completely, 100% fine with this.

Posted by: The recovered remains of Hitler's cocaine filled flying submarine at June 27, 2023 06:25 PM (wCgji)

221 It's not an emergency, or even a problem, except to those who still are abortion maniacs who want to twist everyone arms to accept killing the baby even as it's heading out of the womb.
----
It's still a problem for the babies being slaughtered.

Posted by: screaming in digital at June 27, 2023 06:26 PM (LETQU)

222 >>209 Actor Julian Sands has been missing since January. His remains were found near Mount Baldy. They're calling it a hiking accident.

I remember him as Dr Julian Sands from Arachnophobia. He's the spider expert who gets brought in to investigate. He's a distinctive looking guy who played some neat minor characters in a lot of lesser known movies.

https://tinyurl.com/wp96n2mb
Posted by: bonhomme

One would think an affluent person like Sands would carry a personal location device like an InReach or Find Me Spot.

Posted by: Maj. Healey Concerned About Due Process Rights at June 27, 2023 06:26 PM (9RRW+)

223 Those who have “abortions for convenience “ should have that abortion by hysterectomy. Or to be liberal in the Ehrlich fashion, maybe just that first abortion and a tubal ligation.

Posted by: Ron at June 27, 2023 06:26 PM (yVwLR)

224 Only if you're using "poor" as a euphemism for unmarried.
Posted by: Oddbob

True

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at June 27, 2023 06:26 PM (vHIgi)

225 Yeah, that's my read.

Everyone with even a shoe size IQ has figured out that women who want to kill their babies still can, and those who don't, won't.

It's not an emergency, or even a problem, except to those who still are abortion maniacs who want to twist everyone arms to accept killing the baby even as it's heading out of the womb.

And there just aren't that many of those.
Posted by: naturalfake
____

But that requires Republicans to no longer run on abortion.

Do you think that's going to happen?

Something like gay marriage is no longer a real issue anymore, because no Republican runs on repealing it.

But I'm guessing the same people here that feel really strongly that its okay to lose elections if the issue is abortion are not going to be happy if Republicans abandon the issue.

Posted by: Blago at June 27, 2023 06:26 PM (STGfL)

226 Well if we can't abort the fetuses can we at least fuck them?

Posted by: Democrats everywhere at June 27, 2023 06:27 PM (pohLc)

227 To escape poverty as a woman, a guide that mostly works.

1) Finish High School.
2) Marry
3) Have children after marriage
4) Don't get divorced

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at June 27, 2023 06:27 PM (u82oZ)

228 Are the other 26% retarded or dead?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 27, 2023 06:27 PM (EVR4i)

229 Lack of shame is the big reason we're where we are today.

Posted by: The recovered remains of Hitler's cocaine filled flying submarine at June 27, 2023 06:27 PM (wCgji)

230 214 KS has a Dem for. Governor and the abortion bill was poorly written. But there are pro-life signs still on the highways here.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 27, 2023 06:25 PM (ouTlx)

The two main problems in KS is Lawrence and Kansas City.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at June 27, 2023 06:27 PM (BdMk6)

231 72 The 61 % against the SCOTUS ruling on abortion is troubling... I am against abortion and should be glad but it seems States that make the new abortion laws are getting over turned anyway... Can't win for losing

Posted by: It's me donna at June 27, 2023 05:51 PM (bs+z0)

I am not surprised that 61% say they are against the SCOTUS ruling.

Ever since the ruling was published, the White House and the rest of the Democrat/Media Complex have screamed hourly that the ruling is wrong. It is terrible and evil. The men on SCOTUS, led by the rapist justice Kavanaugh, canceled a sacred Constitutional right of women; pregnant women are dying in thousands every week from pregnancy complications while they drive thousands of miles to the nearest legal abortion clinic in Democrat states; and, all enlightened women need to realize the evil religious nuts are laughing in your faces about all of it.

The Dem-Communists know how to do propaganda.

Posted by: Gref at June 27, 2023 06:27 PM (AMIL/)

232 Champipple is what they make Fake Soylent Green out of.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, not Chuck Heston at June 27, 2023 06:27 PM (PiwSw)

233 Hope Peaches is okay. Just saw her town in Indiana was hit by a tornado.

Posted by: Mrs JTB at June 27, 2023 06:27 PM (7EjX1)

234 But I'm guessing the same people here that feel really strongly that its okay to lose elections if the issue is abortion are not going to be happy if Republicans abandon the issue.
Posted by: Blago

That's what I said! (I think)

Posted by: Miss Lindsey at June 27, 2023 06:28 PM (cPGH3)

235 I can see allowing abortions within the first week for the cases of rape and incest as long as there are criminal charges filed on the rapists.

The canard about the 6 week delay deal is too short because some women don't even know they're pregnant yet. They ought to know immediately that were raped or incested.
Posted by: DanMan at June 27, 2023 05:40 PM (DB6tu)

Wouldn't it make more sense to execute the rapist? Why punish the child for the sins of the father?

I know you're trying to be compassionate, but the abortionists just throw-out the "what about rape/incest ... reee" as a smoke screen. They just want to kill babies. Ask them if the rapist should be executed and they will vapor-lock.

The killing of an innocent person is wrong;
abortion entails the killing of an innocent person.
Therefore, abortion is wrong.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at June 27, 2023 06:28 PM (pJWtt)

236 Calling it now:

Joe Biden will break 100 million votes and sweep all 50 states. They will make the worst, most hated president in history have the biggest win in presidential electoral history. Bigger than Washington!
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 27, 2023 05:39 PM (wsSEe)

I believe it. I'd be surprised if this isn't how it goes.

Posted by: InZona at June 27, 2023 06:28 PM (RiUof)

237 If 74% think we are on the wrong track how the fuck did we fuck up the last election?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 27, 2023 06:28 PM (EVR4i)

238 I am not surprised that 61% say they are against the SCOTUS ruling.

Ever since the ruling was published, the White House and the rest of the Democrat/Media Complex have screamed hourly that the ruling is wrong...

---

+1

Even though it offered up unimaginable freedom to women, and if similar things happened in regards to firearms and Class III weapons gun owners everywhere would recognize it as the biggest move towards personal freedom in almost 100 years.

Posted by: The recovered remains of Hitler's cocaine filled flying submarine at June 27, 2023 06:28 PM (wCgji)

239 To escape poverty as a woman, a guide that mostly works.

1) Finish High School.
2) Marry
3) Have children after marriage
4) Don't get divorced
Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ)

.5 Don't inject Tranq or smoke crack

Posted by: Maj. Healey Concerned About Due Process Rights at June 27, 2023 06:29 PM (9RRW+)

240 229 Lack of shame is the big reason we're where we are today.
Posted by: The recovered remains of Hitler's cocaine filled flying submarine

Shame is an archaic Judeo-Christian idea!! It must be replaced so that True Utopia can be achieved!!

(creepy smile)

Posted by: WEF is Jonestown Global at June 27, 2023 06:29 PM (sAmhv)

241
The abortion debate should only involve the following groups:

Women of child bearing age
Fathers with daughters

Everyone else gets 1/300th of a vote. Not redeemable where taxed, licensed or otherwise prohibited.

I mean, I appreciate the energy of the the pro-life groups. But then we get Obama and Obamacare and 'gender-affirming' mutilation of children. One trick ponies lose elections.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 27, 2023 06:29 PM (enJYY)

242 "Nobody has been drafted in 50 years. "

Any war that needs a draft is a losing war.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at June 27, 2023 06:29 PM (MeG8a)

243 Propose the Pride Movement members be hereby known as the Tapeworms. It’s their general focus and milieu.

Posted by: Ron at June 27, 2023 06:29 PM (yVwLR)

244 Trump won in 2016. He also won in 2020 he just couldn't overcome a once in a lifetime mass mail in cheat.

He got more votes in 2020 than any sitting president in history. The idea that he isn't popular and can't win a general running on solid conservative policies is dumb and not supported by the data.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 27, 2023 06:29 PM (ZLI7S)

245 227 To escape poverty as a woman, a guide that mostly works.

1) Finish High School.
2) Marry
3) Have children after marriage
4) Don't get divorced

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at June 27, 2023 06:27 PM (u82oZ)

Shorter version: Choose wisely.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 27, 2023 06:29 PM (ynpvh)

246 So, if 3/4 of those who quit Bud Light go to Modelo, that is a huge win for AB Inbev. In hindsight, AB Inbev may end up more profitable after cannibalizing its least profitable brand. It helps that Miller Lite also went Trans.

Posted by: william ferrin at June 27, 2023 06:29 PM (+FeuR)

247 You must acknowledge the power of Lamont. It was Sanford and Son that buried The Brady Bunch. Not even cousin Oliver could save them.

Posted by: TV Facts and Foibles at June 27, 2023 06:30 PM (T0tUU)

248 232 Champipple is what they make Fake Soylent Green out of.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, not Chuck Heston at June 27, 2023 06:27 PM (PiwSw)

Sorta like sham poo.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 27, 2023 06:30 PM (ynpvh)

249 NYT had multiple sources confirm David Weiss' claim he was blocked from bring charges against Hunter Biden in CA.

https://tinyurl.com/yu8r7p7u

Posted by: bonhomme at June 27, 2023 06:30 PM (R38qh)

250 I can see allowing abortions within the first week for the cases of rape and incest as long as there are criminal charges filed on the rapists.

--

This is a lie. A foundational lie, same as the "incest" silliness. 0.0%

Women who are raped receive a mega dose of different medicines to prevent STDs and pregnancies the moment they arrive at the hospital.

It is a non-problem.

Posted by: The recovered remains of Hitler's cocaine filled flying submarine at June 27, 2023 06:30 PM (wCgji)

251 Abortion for Reps is like guns for Dems. Both sides know it hurts them but both sides also can’t help themselves.

Posted by: Montec at June 27, 2023 06:30 PM (ZMq/F)

252 I saw someone online posit/comment that polls might display a sort of "reverse" Trump effect this year where the pollsters are tweaking the polls to inflate Trump's supposed chances in the general in order to help him win the GOP primary before losing to Biden again. Anyone else see that or lend any credence to the concept?

Posted by: Octochicken at June 27, 2023 06:31 PM (oCS0o)

253 Propose women who have ‘abortion for convenience’ have abortion by hysterectomy. Or at least, in the Paul Ehrlich supportive fashion, abortion plus tubal ligation.

Posted by: Ron at June 27, 2023 06:31 PM (yVwLR)

254 237 If 74% think we are on the wrong track how the fuck did we fuck up the last election?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 27, 2023 06:28 PM (EVR4i)

We did that.

Posted by: Deep State & MSM at June 27, 2023 06:31 PM (ynpvh)

255 He got more votes in 2020 than any sitting president in history. The idea that he isn't popular and can't win a general running on solid conservative policies is dumb and not supported by the data.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 27, 2023 06:29 PM (ZLI7S)

We shall see.. We can't ignore the elephant in the room.. He will most likely be convicted in one of the many cases brought against him .. Then what ?

Posted by: It's me donna at June 27, 2023 06:32 PM (bs+z0)

256 I have missed you, Lamont!

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at June 27, 2023 06:32 PM (a4EWo)

257 246 So, if 3/4 of those who quit Bud Light go to Modelo, that is a huge win for AB Inbev. In hindsight, AB Inbev may end up more profitable after cannibalizing its least profitable brand. It helps that Miller Lite also went Trans.
Posted by: william ferrin at

—-

Modelo in the US is owned by a different company. AB doesn’t have US rights to it.

Posted by: Montec at June 27, 2023 06:32 PM (ZMq/F)

258 Nobody has been drafted in 50 years. "

Any war that needs a draft is a losing war.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at June 27, 2023 06:29 PM (MeG8a)

My history teacher must have been completely wrong. I thought we won WWII.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at June 27, 2023 06:32 PM (BdMk6)

259 It was Sanford and Son that buried The Brady Bunch

*nods*

You can hide a lot of bodies in a junkyard.

Posted by: Oddbob at June 27, 2023 06:32 PM (nfrXX)

260 Thanks a lot for the 19th Amendment, assholes.

Posted by: 64 million unborn babies slaughtered since 1973 at June 27, 2023 06:32 PM (AJ2DX)

261 The truth is that 99% of abortions are recreational.

The end, full stop.

I'm starting to believe that they're not only recreational, but sacrificial. Watch the upper-crust elite Democrats. They will go to the mat for killing babies every chance they get.

I'm truly beginning to think they have a supernatural reason for it.

Posted by: The recovered remains of Hitler's cocaine filled flying submarine at June 27, 2023 06:32 PM (wCgji)

262 I ha had jello today. yeah.

Posted by: John Fetterman at June 27, 2023 06:33 PM (PiwSw)

263 In my parts I think the real reason the Democrats stay in power is that people just don't care anymore about anything other than their immediate gratification. You try spark up a conversation and talk about politics at all these days and tell them what's going on an actual reality and they look at you like a deer in the Headlights and then they proceed to say oh I don't care I'll just focus on what's around or they call you an outright liar and then you try to show them evidence and then they say I don't care all he cares about what's going on in my life nothing else matters blah blah blah blah blah

Posted by: Theo at June 27, 2023 06:33 PM (aj+bc)

264 I wonder what the 74% think the right track actually is? I suspect it ain't close to my path - hence the problem. 90% of this country is totally effed up so any "track" they're on, Lord keep me off.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at June 27, 2023 06:33 PM (oWBc3)

265 >>We shall see.. We can't ignore the elephant in the room.. He will most likely be convicted in one of the many cases brought against him .. Then what ?

I wouldn't be surprised if his trial, assuming there is one, doesn't come until after the election.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 27, 2023 06:33 PM (ZLI7S)

266 256 I have missed you, Lamont!

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at June 27, 2023 06:32 PM (a4EWo)

Like crabs.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 27, 2023 06:33 PM (rJ7Hd)

267 Posted by: It's me donna at June 27, 2023 06:32 PM (bs+z0)

I doubt that. Hes been impeached half a dozen times for the same shit they are pulling now.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 27, 2023 06:34 PM (pohLc)

268 262 I ha had jello today. yeah.

Posted by: John Fetterman at June 27, 2023 06:33 PM (PiwSw)

how much?
95, 95, 95...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 27, 2023 06:34 PM (ynpvh)

269 We put Jerry Moran in there and first thing he did was vote for Biden's pork.

Cities in all states tend Dem. And that includes OK.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 27, 2023 06:34 PM (ouTlx)

270 I can see mandatory military service for males at age 18, for a year. Or some other support service for those unfit.
But, a draft? No way.
Too easy to game it.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at June 27, 2023 06:35 PM (MeG8a)

271 "Going in the wrong direction" is too vague and general to be very useful... nearly everyone is disaffected now, no matter what their flavor....

Posted by: tubal at June 27, 2023 06:35 PM (PCK5/)

272 I wouldn't be surprised if his trial, assuming there is one, doesn't come until after the election.

Posted by: JackStraw

--

I think that's the plan. Ongoing investigation, can't comment, etc., and the courts will rule that he can't be on ballots because reasons.

Then in mid-November it won't matter anymore and we retract our case.

Posted by: The recovered remains of Hitler's cocaine filled flying submarine at June 27, 2023 06:35 PM (wCgji)

273 What is the realistic punishment Trump could get? I know technically he could get 100 years or whatever based on all the counts. But realistically will he do time if he’s convicted?

Posted by: Montec at June 27, 2023 06:35 PM (ZMq/F)

274 I'm truly beginning to think they have a supernatural reason for it.
Posted by: The recovered remains of Hitler's cocaine filled flying submarine at June 27, 2023 06:32 PM (wCgji)

Agreed

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at June 27, 2023 06:35 PM (vHIgi)

275 Actor Julian Sands has been missing since January. His remains were found near Mount Baldy. They're calling it a hiking accident.

I remember him as Dr Julian Sands from Arachnophobia. He's the spider expert who gets brought in to investigate. He's a distinctive looking guy who played some neat minor characters in a lot of lesser known movies.

https://tinyurl.com/wp96n2mb
Posted by: bonhomme at June 27, 2023 06:23 PM (R38qh)

RIP.

He ws a thing for a while.

In a lot of movies.

Didn't he play the rapper pedophile centipede man in David Cronenberg's "Naked Lunch"?

Posted by: naturalfake at June 27, 2023 06:35 PM (fb7jX)

276 I saw someone online posit/comment that polls might display a sort of "reverse" Trump effect this year where the pollsters are tweaking the polls to inflate Trump's supposed chances in the general in order to help him win the GOP primary before losing to Biden again. Anyone else see that or lend any credence to the concept?

Trust no poll or statistic that you haven't personally modified.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at June 27, 2023 06:36 PM (p8A+W)

277 The truth is that 99% of abortions are recreational.

The end, full stop.

I'm starting to believe that they're not only recreational, but sacrificial. Watch the upper-crust elite Democrats. They will go to the mat for killing babies every chance they get.

I'm truly beginning to think they have a supernatural reason for it.
Posted by: The recovered remains of Hitler's cocaine filled flying submarine at June 27, 2023 06:32 PM (wCgji)

Agree. Since the Catholic Church has retreated from preaching orthodoxy in the public square, the unbloody sacrifice of the Mass has been replaced by the bloody sacrifice of abortion. Fr. Mitch Pakwa has called abortion a sacrament of Hell.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at June 27, 2023 06:36 PM (pJWtt)

278 @251 possibly the most epically dumb post in the history of the interweb. Comparing abortion to guns in any way is quite frankly disqualifying for being a citizen. The former is a sacred quest, Deus vult, the latter, a basic American value/citizenship test. Check yourself dude.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at June 27, 2023 06:36 PM (oWBc3)

279 276 I saw someone online posit/comment that polls might display a sort of "reverse" Trump effect this year where the pollsters are tweaking the polls to inflate Trump's supposed chances in the general in order to help him win the GOP primary before losing to Biden again. Anyone else see that or lend any credence to the concept?

Which is what they did in 2016... CNN really pushed Trump because they thought he was the weakest candidate... Didn't work out the way they thought

Posted by: It's me donna at June 27, 2023 06:37 PM (bs+z0)

280 I can see mandatory military service for males at age 18, for a year. Or some other support service for those unfit.
But, a draft? No way.
Too easy to game it.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at June 27, 2023 06:35 PM (MeG8a)

I Don't want any part of a draft. I have more than enough problems with the snowflakes, assholes, and woke ones that raise their hand and volunteered. Draft? No fuckin way

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 27, 2023 06:38 PM (EVR4i)

281 Taxpayer Funded American Library Association Provides Tactics for Disrupting Conservative Events in Public Libraries “If You Have a Kirk Cameron Story Hour Booked in Your Library…Have a Library Sponsored Pride Festival the Same Day and Fill the Library with Rainbows”

Posted by: Maj. Healey Concerned About Due Process Rights at June 27, 2023 06:38 PM (9RRW+)

282 If you watched Nefarious, his whole diatribe on abortion is chilling.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 27, 2023 06:38 PM (rJ7Hd)

283 He got more votes in 2020 than any sitting president in history. The idea that he isn't popular and can't win a general running on solid conservative policies is dumb and not supported by the data.
Posted by: JackStraw
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He pulls more votes against him then for him.

It's like a company that has $100 million in revenue, but it has to spend $200 million to get there. It's ultimately a losing proposition.

When people point to how many votes Trump got, so what? It's like saying if a football team scores 4 touchdown that it should automatically win no matter if the other team got 5 touchdowns.

2016 was Trump's high water mark. He has become steadily less and less beloved. He's lost independents and Democrat crossovers. he's even lost a huge amount of Republican voters.

It's his primary to lose, but if he is the nominee, I have zero doubt Biden gets reelected by an even larger margin.

Posted by: Blago at June 27, 2023 06:38 PM (STGfL)

284 Cities in all states tend Dem. And that includes OK.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 27, 2023 06:34 PM (ouTlx)

Only Norman. And that's because it's a university town. University towns are almost always leftist in nature nowadays.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at June 27, 2023 06:38 PM (BdMk6)

285 Fr. Mitch Pakwa has called abortion a sacrament of Hell.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop

Nanzi Pelousy literally called abortion a sacrament

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at June 27, 2023 06:38 PM (vHIgi)

286 AirBnB user revenue is collapsing.

https://tinyurl.com/s5nbz7tz

Posted by: bonhomme at June 27, 2023 06:38 PM (R38qh)

287 Just like communism, most socialists swear that the next democrat will finally get it right.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 27, 2023 06:39 PM (rJ7Hd)

288 > Nanzi Pelousy literally called abortion a sacrament

She also said abortion was "sacred ground."

Posted by: bonhomme at June 27, 2023 06:39 PM (R38qh)

289 286 AirBnB user revenue is collapsing.

https://tinyurl.com/s5nbz7tz
Posted by: bonhomme at June 27, 2023 06:38 PM (R38q

Good

Posted by: It's me donna at June 27, 2023 06:39 PM (bs+z0)

290 The gun comparison is fun.

0.1% of abortions are for "rape and incest", so the other 99.9% must be protected as sacred right up to the moment of crowning.

Guns work the same way, except the other 99.9% must be banned and destroyed and all rights to buy and posses removed permanently.

Posted by: The recovered remains of Hitler's cocaine filled flying submarine at June 27, 2023 06:39 PM (wCgji)

291 I thought AB Inbev retained domestic rights to Corona and Modelo. Isn't that why they are suing Constellation Brands, for being in breach of their US deal?

Posted by: william ferrin at June 27, 2023 06:40 PM (+FeuR)

292 278 @251 possibly the most epically dumb post in the history of the interweb. Comparing abortion to guns in any way is quite frankly disqualifying for being a citizen. The former is a sacred quest, Deus vult, the latter, a basic American value/citizenship test. Check yourself dude.
Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at June 27, 2023 06:36 PM (oWBc3)

They’re both political issues as well. And both parties are against the two , even though the public supports the two. Americans Leo t want abortion or guns banned while Reps/Dems push to ban them.

People don’t vote based on sacred quests or citizenship tests.

Posted by: Montec at June 27, 2023 06:40 PM (ZMq/F)

293 246 So, if 3/4 of those who quit Bud Light go to Modelo, that is a huge win for AB Inbev. In hindsight, AB Inbev may end up more profitable after cannibalizing its least profitable brand. It helps that Miller Lite also went Trans.
Posted by: william ferrin

Except that Modelo is not connected with AB Inbev in the US. Another distributer deal with Modelo in the US. AB Inbev distributes Modelo internationally. I also could be entirely wrong which is why I buy Yuengling. A good solid 'Murican owned beer.

Posted by: WEF is Jonestown Global at June 27, 2023 06:40 PM (sAmhv)

294 Off Global monsters off.

Posted by: Puddleglum at June 27, 2023 06:40 PM (sAmhv)

295 290

Excellent point.

Posted by: Montec at June 27, 2023 06:41 PM (ZMq/F)

296 To escape poverty as a woman, a guide that mostly works.
1) Finish High School.
2) Marry
3) Have children after marriage
4) Don't get divorced
Posted by: NaCly Dog

Self-control and delayed gratification as the keys to success? That's crazy talk, man.

Posted by: mikeski at June 27, 2023 06:41 PM (DgGvY)

297 We shall see.. We can't ignore the elephant in the room.. He will most likely be convicted in one of the many cases brought against him .. Then what ?
Posted by: It's me donna
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if you can say a person cant vote if they're a convicted felon, can you bar a person from appearing on a state ballot for the same reason?

Posted by: Blago at June 27, 2023 06:41 PM (STGfL)

298 Trump pulls more votes against him than for him, and DeSantis will be lucky to break 65M votes.

Your choice.

(not that it matters because of the cheat, but a Trump/VP DeSantis team-up miracle is our *only* hope to blow the cheat out)

Posted by: The recovered remains of Hitler's cocaine filled flying submarine at June 27, 2023 06:41 PM (wCgji)

299 "Draft? No fuckin way"

Thanks, that means something, coming from you, NGU. Not being sarcastic at all.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at June 27, 2023 06:41 PM (MeG8a)

300
I think that's the plan. Ongoing investigation, can't comment, etc., and the courts will rule that he can't be on ballots because reasons.

Then in mid-November it won't matter anymore and we retract our case.

Posted by: The recovered remains of Hitler's cocaine filled flying submarine at June 27, 2023 06:35 PM (wCgji)

They won't retract any charges. They want Trump impaled on a stake on the National Mall and his body left there to rot to pieces. Or the closest punishment to that the law allows.

Posted by: Gref at June 27, 2023 06:41 PM (AMIL/)

301 >>286 AirBnB user revenue is collapsing.

https://tinyurl.com/s5nbz7tz
Posted by: bonhomme

It moved. We have two near us and it's a different set of freaks there every week. They park anywhere they please.

Posted by: Maj. Healey Concerned About Due Process Rights at June 27, 2023 06:42 PM (9RRW+)

302 ~~Nood~~

Posted by: mikeski at June 27, 2023 06:42 PM (DgGvY)

303
They won't retract any charges. They want Trump impaled on a stake on the National Mall and his body left there to rot to pieces. Or the closest punishment to that the law allows.

Posted by: Gref

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I don't think they're concerned with laws any longer.

Epstein et al would agree.

Posted by: The recovered remains of Hitler's cocaine filled flying submarine at June 27, 2023 06:43 PM (wCgji)

304 2016 was Trump's high water mark. He has become steadily less and less beloved. He's lost independents and Democrat crossovers. he's even lost a huge amount of Republican voters.

That's simply not true. I've seen no indication of that only assertions from DeSantis supporters. He is walking away with the nomination right now and I bet his support will be even bigger by disaffected independents and moderates

You worry a lot about abortion but how many people really like this woke shit? Trannies and kids? A shitty economy? Open borders? The number one issue for people right now is the economy and it blows and Joe can't hide in the basement this time, he owns it.

I'm looking forward to Trump hammering Biden into a puddle over his corruption which is increasingly on full display and the media can't hide it this time. 51 Intel agents aren't going to save Joe this time.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 27, 2023 06:43 PM (ZLI7S)

305 Fr. Mitch Pakwa has called abortion a sacrament of Hell.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop

Nanzi Pelousy literally called abortion a sacrament
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at June 27, 2023 06:38 PM (vHIgi)

You're right. I'd forgotten about that.

B!tch is demon-possessed; of that I have zero doubt.

Remember during Joe Biden's 1st State of Union Address, when the demon got control of her body and she was rubbing her fists together as if they were cloven hooves? That was freaky.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at June 27, 2023 06:43 PM (pJWtt)

306 Airbnb has destroyed thousands of neighborhoods around the world. Fuck those guys in particular.

Posted by: Montec at June 27, 2023 06:43 PM (ZMq/F)

307 The only thing worse than posting in the wrong column is having somebody fact check your post in the wrong column.
That said, the best way to counter 74% wrong track is a docile Republican Party that is afraid to offend the 26% who want to give it to America "gooder and harder".

Posted by: william ferrin at June 27, 2023 06:43 PM (+FeuR)

308 Trump pulls more votes against him than for him, and DeSantis will be lucky to break 65M votes.

Your choice.

(not that it matters because of the cheat, but a Trump/VP DeSantis team-up miracle is our *only* hope to blow the cheat out)
Posted by: The recovered remains of Hitler's cocaine filled flying submarine
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It wont happen. Trump will be radioactive after he loses (again) to even GOP voters.

My guess is Trump will also try and run again in 2028 after he loses. You really think Trump ever hangs it up for good until he dies? All of these politicians have this defect. Trump has been running for President for almost 40 years, he said he wanted Oprah as his VP.

Posted by: Blago at June 27, 2023 06:45 PM (STGfL)

309 @255 We shall see.. We can't ignore the elephant in the room.. He will most likely be convicted in one of the many cases brought against him .. Then what
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Eugene Debs ran while in prison. There's precedent, and it's in Trump's favor even if he gets convicted. Courts have been pretty clear that the Constitution is the sole gatekeeper regarding who can run, and the Constitution is silent on this topic.

Posted by: junior at June 27, 2023 06:47 PM (AIDsV)

310 298: I’ll say it again: I’m voting DeSantis in the primaries. Trump is out of ammo.

BUT: if Trump is the nominee, damn skippy I’ll vote for him.

Can we stop this needless internecine BS please?

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at June 27, 2023 06:47 PM (FbcWf)

311
I'm looking forward to Trump hammering Biden into a puddle over his corruption which is increasingly on full display and the media can't hide it this time. 51 Intel agents aren't going to save Joe this time.
Posted by: JackStraw

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He couldnt do it the first time, and if anything, sitting President enjoy an even bigger advantage. What's changed?

Trump is never going to be President again. I would love to make an offsite bet on this, because I would clean up.

he may win the nom again, because Dems cleverly played him up to be a martyr and our side stupidly took the bait.

Posted by: Blago at June 27, 2023 06:47 PM (STGfL)

312 rapper = rapey

Thx, Ac!

Posted by: naturalfake at June 27, 2023 06:47 PM (fb7jX)

313 @273

>>What is the realistic punishment Trump could get? I know technically he could get 100 years or whatever based on all the counts. But realistically will he do time if he’s convicted?

He's not going to be convicted by a jury composed of Cubans and Venezuelans, but if he is somehow convicted, and it gets to a sentencing phase, the DOJ will seek 25 years at minimum.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 27, 2023 06:48 PM (up/3i)

314 I don't give a shit about polls. I want to see the hard numbers that come out of the various R's stumping in New Hampshire.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 27, 2023 06:49 PM (fH+Q7)

315 270: horrific idea.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at June 27, 2023 06:49 PM (FbcWf)

316 Fuck politics.

Immona write in Bill the Cat and P. Opus.

Fuck this shit.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Keith's Son at June 27, 2023 06:53 PM (T/Lqj)

317 He's not going to be convicted by a jury composed of Cubans and Venezuelans, but if he is somehow convicted, and it gets to a sentencing phase, the DOJ will seek 25 years at minimum.
Posted by: Thomas Bender

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Even though I'm not Trump fan, I didnt want to see him go down this way.

I'm just amazed Trump can be so dumb in front of other people. He thinks everyone in the room loves him.

What would we have said if Hillary on a hidden camera was waving around classified material and showing it to random people without clearance and bragged she wasnt allowed to have it?

That's why we (with Trump) chanted "lock her up".

Posted by: Blago at June 27, 2023 06:53 PM (STGfL)

318 Politics is downstream of that herd of cattle just upstream from where I am pissing right now.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Keith's Son at June 27, 2023 06:54 PM (T/Lqj)

319 @317

>>What would we have said if Hillary on a hidden camera was waving around classified material and showing it to random people without clearance and bragged she wasnt allowed to have it?

1. Hillary was never President so did not have the powers of The Unitary Executive.

B. All papers Trump took with him were ipso-facto his papers and can be thought of as de-classified.

III. We have no idea what the alledged papers are but it essentially does not matter, see 1 and B.

The bottom line is the best analysis of this bullshit was by Robert Barnes when he was on Viva Frei.

You should have a look, it will open your eyes, or not.

https://tinyurl.com/26u5r6am

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 27, 2023 07:06 PM (up/3i)

320 Recent polls show Trump loses to Biden, and Biden loses to DeSantis, in Pennsylvania, Georgia and Arizona.

That's 47 more electoral votes DeSantis gets than Trump.

And DeSantis doesn't defend Disney, vaccines, Cuomo or endorse McConnell.

Posted by: Qwinn at June 27, 2023 07:23 PM (qOJKk)

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