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Drug-Based GAINZZZ?

First, some nonsense: "The Relentless Reality of Anti-Fatness in Fitness."

These biased "Fitness Experts" who continue claiming that being greatly overweight is bad for your health and longevity! Haven't they read The New Science (TM)?!

A "seasoned athlete," who is also grossly obese, relates this "comical" story of a gym fitness pro trying to instruct her in how to exercise.


Jaffe laughed as she recounted the story to me--and it is almost comical, imagining this seasoned athlete staring down at a two-pound dumbbell while a trainer tries to "teach" her what a bicep curl is. The session continued as such, Jaffe recalls, with her asking about functional exercises and the trainer instead demonstrating a squat. "I kept having to reiterate, 'I know what these things are. I want you to give me something new, so I don't get bored.'" Though she'd been very clear on her goals, the trainer seemed to have another one in mind:

"You do know that you need to eat fewer calories than you burn," she said, "in order to lose weight."

"What makes you think I want to lose weight?" Jaffe asked. "I didn't put that on my intake form." The trainer said she'd assumed as much because of Jaffe's "curvier" physique. One last time, Jaffe--who was then a size 16--explained that she was there to support her endurance training. It was literally there, in writing.

The trainer seemed flummoxed. "So you did those things you wrote on your form?"

This is the woman who insists it is "comical" for a fitness pro at the gym to assume she needs instruction about how to exercise:

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"Seasoned athlete."

How dare you assume I need coaching! I'm obviously a fitness fanatic!

Though bizarre, Jaffe's experience is hardly novel. Of the dozens of people I spoke with for this story, few could identify one specific incident of anti-fat bias in a fitness space that stood out more than others--because incidents like this are the rule, not the exception.

Though the term "fatphobia" only went mainstream in recent years with the rise of the body positivity movement (and has already fallen out of favor for some), anti-fat bias has been a part of white America for centuries.

...

To make a long, complex story very short: People were suddenly interested in quantifying health, and life insurance companies promoted the use of weight tables (though they differed greatly from company to company) to do so. In a matter of decades, fatness evolved from a moral issue to a medical one.

Fatness was always a medical issue. Doctors in the seventeenth century noted that fat people tended to die young. Doctors encouraged people to diet in the 1800s, when it was a "disease of the affluent."


There's another concept we didn't really hear about in the '50s that gets a lot of play today: obesity. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) defines obesity as "weight that is higher than what is considered healthy for a given height" and positions it as being in the middle of a spectrum ranging from "overweight" to "extremely obese." Between 1960 and 2012, the rate of obesity in U.S. adults increased about 20%, according to the CDC. (Though, depending on race and gender, there's significant variation in both the statistics and the volume of data.) Concern over this matter escalated when, in 1998, the NIH tweaked its Body Mass Index classifications, lowering the cutoff for "healthy" weight from 27.3 (for women) or 27.8 (for men) to 25. Overnight, nearly 30 million Americans went from a-okay to soft, sick aberrations--symptoms of the epidemic ravaging this great nation.

With all due respect: It's not people who are borderline obese who are really at risk, and of course it's not the people who are borderline obese who are shrieking that "obesity" itself is a made-up concept invented by white supremacists.

It's the people who are severely obese and would be diagnosed as such under any plausible metric.

In good news for the obese: You know how fat celebrities keep losing a bunch of weight? Adele? Rebel Wilson?

Even Mindy Kaling dropped a lot of weight, and appeared to be actually... thin.

And then they say it was just diet and exercise?

Well, yeah, like the "Marvel Method" of bulking up actors to look like men who, coincidentally, appear to have been on a one-year cycle of steroids, they're not just relying on diet and exercise.

They're taking a new class of drugs which appear to actually work. Weight loss drugs Ozempic, Wegovy, and Mounjaro are flying off the shelves so fast that there are national shortages.


In the past five years, several new drugs have been brought to market that could lead to a profound, if not revolutionary, change in how health care providers -- and the public -- view weight loss.

Three drugs in particular -- sold under the brand names Wegovy, Ozempic, and Mounjaro -- have shown remarkable effects on weight loss in clinical trials.

While Wegovy is approved by the Food and Drug Administration for weight loss, the other two medications are only approved as treatment for type 2 diabetes, though they do also contribute to significant weight loss.

This has led to increased demand for these drugs, causing a shortage of Ozempic and Mounjaro in early 2023 that threatened the availability of these drugs for diabetes patients.

Globally, more than 650 million people are obese, and by 2030, an estimated 1 billion adults will be obese. This makes obesity the most prevalent chronic disease in the world.

As an exercise science scholar, I have spent more than 15 years studying the effects of diet and exercise on the human body, primarily focused on body composition changes such as gaining skeletal muscle or losing body fat, or both.

...


While these medications hold promise, they are not wonder drugs. In my view, they warrant much more research before they become the basis for a new weight management protocol.

Ozempic and Mounjaro are FDA-approved for the treatment of type 2 diabetes, which affects more than 37 million people in the US.

On top of that, nearly 100 million people are considered prediabetic, meaning that together over 40 percent of the US population suffers from an inability to properly manage blood sugar.

Obesity and type 2 diabetes are closely related conditions, so much so that some experts are now calling the two conditions "diabesity". These dire figures are what prompted pharmaceutical companies to search for new weight loss treatments.

Fat people are not fat because they're particularly lazy. They're fat because their bodies don't properly regulate their blood sugar. Their bodies would probably be pretty healthy during periods of food scarcity, but, of course, the western world doesn't see much food scarcity. It sees mostly food overabundance.

And fat people's hormones just aren't set properly to deal with that.

The drugs are designed to readjust the body's hormones to liberate blood sugar from fat, and store less glucose as fat.


Wegovy and Ozempic are a class of drug known as a semaglutide. Since people with type 2 diabetes are unable to properly manage blood sugar, injections with this class of drug help the body release the proper amount of insulin after eating by mimicking a naturally occurring hormone called GLP-1.

At the same time, semaglutides also reduce the release of the hormone glucagon, which works opposite of insulin to increase blood sugar. In non-diabetics, these two hormones work together to maintain normal blood sugar levels.

But since this mechanism is not functioning properly in diabetics, which leads to high blood sugar, semaglutides help to control blood sugar and also reduce appetite.

I don't know if the drugs work. Anecdotally, I've heard they do; this article calls the results "staggering" in some cases.

Are there long-term health risks associated with the drugs? I don't know that either. I do know how Dr. Atkins responded to claims that the Atkins diet might have long-term health risks: Obesity itself is a very well-documented health risk. One can worry about hypothetical unknown risks, but in the meantime, the known, proven risk must be treated.

I'm not endorsing these drugs. I just know they're getting more and more popular and it seems I should mention them.

Natural GAINZZZ are the best GAINZZZ, of course.

But maybe the perfect shouldn't be the enemy of the merely good.


Self-Defense GAINZZZ:

Climbing GAINZZZ:


Note that he actually... climbs down. I was afraid he'd get stuck and wouldn't know how to climb down. But he figures it out!

Gymnastic GAINZZZ:

So, do you have any GAINZZZ? Have any of you tried these new weight-loss drugs?

Anyone have any PLANZZZ or BOOKZZZ they want to discuss?

I just downloaded the first book of Mack Bolan, The Executioner and the first book of the Remo Williams series. I wanted to try some violent pulp.

Posted by: Ace at 05:17 PM




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1 Ace watch the Netflix show sanctuary about sumo wrestlers. It’s awesome

Posted by: Mr pink at June 16, 2023 05:18 PM (rHrVL)

2 Dammit, second time today I read the content and then saw no comments yet.

Posted by: Jordan61 at June 16, 2023 05:20 PM (DRSnL)

3 But I wasn't done with the other thread!!

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 16, 2023 05:20 PM (llON8)

4 The Unbearable Fatness of Being

Posted by: Nom-nom at June 16, 2023 05:20 PM (VsUo2)

5 I WOULD DO HER ANYDAY OF THE WEEK THAT HILLARY IS NOT AROUND !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Bill Clinton at June 16, 2023 05:21 PM (9e2kV)

6 the western world doesn't see much food scarcity.

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Yet.

Posted by: Klaus Schwab at June 16, 2023 05:21 PM (+D5t/)

7 Wannabe dictator lies again about guns, says every day in the cities he roams, trucks pull up to the curbs, sell AR15s right off the back.

Hey joe, where ya goin with that gun in your han'

Gonna shoot my opponent, bought if off the back of a van

Posted by: Mr Gaga at June 16, 2023 05:22 PM (4ZE6o)

8 Fat people are not fat because they're particularly lazy. They're fat because their bodies don't properly regulate their blood sugar.

I mean... SOME of them are fat because they are especially lazy, I have known a lot. Some are fat because they just eat everything and have no self control. Some are fat because of a chemical imbalance in their system as you list. There are a lot of reasons.

I liked the Executioner book I read, the first one. Remo Williams is meh; its really up and down in quality from book to book. I recommend Chuck Dixon's Levon Cade series for just plain violent fun.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 16, 2023 05:22 PM (0hOvj)

9 This is the woman who insists it is "comical" for a fitness pro at the gym to assume she needs instruction about how to exercise:

Oof. My eyes didn't deserve that, ace.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at June 16, 2023 05:23 PM (ppBhU)

10 I'm gaining a buzzzzzzzzz off of Bourbon. Does that count?

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 16, 2023 05:23 PM (Q4IgG)

11 Wannabe dictator lies again about guns, says every day in the cities he roams, trucks pull up to the curbs, sell AR15s right off the back.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at June 16, 2023 05:22 PM (4ZE6o)

=====

He also said "God save the Queen", so...

Posted by: Jordan61 at June 16, 2023 05:24 PM (DRSnL)

12 " I'm gaining a buzzzzzzzzz off of Bourbon. Does that count?
Posted by: Martini Farmer"


The results will be "staggering" in some cases.

Posted by: fd at June 16, 2023 05:24 PM (iayUP)

13 At my age I believe I've earned the right to call anyone grossly obese and deconditioned, who is not suffering from actual paralysis of more than one limb, a fat p*ssy.

Posted by: Zek at June 16, 2023 05:24 PM (5FPX4)

14 BELOW THE FOLD, ACE!!!

BELOW THE FOLD!!!

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 16, 2023 05:25 PM (Vwz3I)

15 >>> 14 BELOW THE FOLD, ACE!!!

BELOW THE FOLD!!!
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 16, 2023 05:25 PM (Vwz3I)

I am too magnificent to be contained within a fold.

Posted by: extra large person at June 16, 2023 05:26 PM (llON8)

16 Oooh Baby! Ooooooh Baby!

Posted by: Jabba the Hutt at June 16, 2023 05:26 PM (PiwSw)

17 the boxing cat is a Bengal!

also I'm a fan of the new drugs for people if they work and they seem to

They're fat because their bodies don't properly regulate their blood sugar.

after a certain amount of processed sugar (in my case it was at around 29 years old lol) intake, that's everyone pretty much. we eat incredible amounts of processed sugar and eventually - sooner or later - we all end up with metabolic disease caused by it

but you knew I was going to say that!

Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 16, 2023 05:27 PM (w0NJk)

18 Got first book back from the proofs. Cover, copy, publlish...probably within a month.

Second book almost ready to go to edits.

Outlining third.

:sweat_emoji:

Posted by: moviegique at June 16, 2023 05:27 PM (lpWi1)

19 She has a race appropriate hairdid, though.
Drop and give me 2, bet ya can't, fatty!

Posted by: micky at June 16, 2023 05:27 PM (3byMq)

20 There's being overweight, and there's having your own gravity well. I would suspect that Beth has smaller athletes orbiting her in tidal lock.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 16, 2023 05:27 PM (aD39U)

21 It's the carbs. Only drink water or unsweetened tea or coffee, cut added sugars to zero (including artificial sweeteners) cut way down on breads/ flour. Do this for a month and you will drop at least ten percent of your weight.

Posted by: Chuck C at June 16, 2023 05:27 PM (Rr5Cf)

22 I would not only have assumed the Cleopatra of Complex Carbs didn't know how to exercise, but that she had vision issues. I would have told her the Wendy's was around the corner. "Seasoned athlete"; oh fuck off.

GAINZZ; got my Father's Day gift, a new leather heavy bag like the old days. I'm going to wear a wife beater every time I use it and call myself Jake "The Anvil" McGuire and pretend I fight in the 1930s.

Posted by: UGAdawg at June 16, 2023 05:27 PM (tRd71)

23 She bench presses 200 lbs, curls 120 lbs, and deadlifts 300 lbs of Donuts and Candy daily .......... Just sayin ....

Posted by: Ferd Berfall at June 16, 2023 05:27 PM (9e2kV)

24 Fat people are not fat because they're particularly lazy.

I'm not buying this at all. Sloth and gluttony. Eating and drinking too many calories (and not good calories at that) and sitting on your ass all day will make you fat, and this is why the vast majority of fat people are fat. I've been everwhere from 130 to 215 over the last 30 years. When I eat reasonably and exercise regularly, I'm more toward the former. When I don't, I put on fat like Carni Wilson at Golden Corral's chocolate fountain. People want to complicate this issue, because it lets them off the hook and excuses them from the discipline and hard work necessary to be in reasonable shape.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at June 16, 2023 05:28 PM (ppBhU)

25 Just GAINZZZ here... I'm down over 15 so I'm overweight.
Never going to make 'normal' as I look like a starving zombie at those weights.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 16, 2023 05:29 PM (P59V4)

26 That Jaffe is a touch chunky.

Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at June 16, 2023 05:29 PM (VdGjU)

27 Someone here on a GAINZZ thread suggested the x3 bar and it was just what I was looking for. Thanks to whomever it was.

Also did carnivore for a month to kickstart things. I was never hungry. Now I’m introducing some carbs back but weight loss is slowing.

Posted by: Blutarski at June 16, 2023 05:29 PM (GSDl4)

28 Beagles are the climbingest dogs I've ever seen. That one may be part.

Posted by: huerfano at June 16, 2023 05:29 PM (7zEAH)

29 Is that Jabba The Hutt's Sister ????

Posted by: Ferd Berfall at June 16, 2023 05:30 PM (9e2kV)

30 None of the old folks celebrating their 100th birthday are fat. Maybe that’s a clue.

Posted by: EveR at June 16, 2023 05:30 PM (aF7mp)

31 overweight is a vicious circle

I had a friend in HS who was lovely, petite, small boned and very pretty. she also had a birth defect (club foot) that had been surgically repaired but required repeated surgeries. she did SOMETHING to her foot during high school and it fractured. no more moving around, very little activity

she started gaining and with her weight growing her foot had more to do. it got worse.

slowly over years just worse and worse

your weight goes up and you don't feel great and your legs/feet can't handle it and your cardiovascular system can't handle it so you take it easy and then....

Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 16, 2023 05:30 PM (w0NJk)

32 I got a device that pumps selzer into water, and found these great packets that give you citrus flavoring for your water with no sugar, no ANYTHING except crystalized citrus (lime, lemon, or orange). We drink nothing but ice and selzer water with flavoring around here.

The initial outlay for the device was over 100 but we were going through that in cans of fizzy water every month. The cans of C02 are about 12 bucks refill each, and each can fills 60 liters of water so they last quite a while. Totally worth it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 16, 2023 05:30 PM (0hOvj)

33 *Looks over forms*

Ok, Ms Jaffe, let’s see. Under blood type you wrote “gravy?”

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 16, 2023 05:30 PM (u73oe)

34 Jaffe is probably a "seasoned" athlete in the sense that it's been many seasons since her JV career.

Posted by: Zek at June 16, 2023 05:31 PM (5FPX4)

35
I'm a victim. I can either eat less or exercise more to lower my weight. Nothing else works. Where's my support group?

Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 16, 2023 05:31 PM (enJYY)

36 Refrigerator Perry was also a seasoned athlete.
he was confined to a wheel chair and had out of control diabetes. He's only 60.

Posted by: polynikes at June 16, 2023 05:31 PM (MNhXM)

37 your weight goes up and you don't feel great and your legs/feet can't handle it and your cardiovascular system can't handle it so you take it easy and then....
Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 16, 2023 05:30 PM (w0NJk)

Two words: Swimming.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 16, 2023 05:31 PM (PiwSw)

38 Shoe laces are racist or something.

Posted by: pawn at June 16, 2023 05:31 PM (kYVzH)

39 Looking at her I'd say the chicken was seasoned, as was the steak and seafood. But the "athlete"? Not so much.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at June 16, 2023 05:32 PM (Bd6X8)

40
I think I heard about Ozempic being used off-label for weight loss maybe a year or two ago. Then I started hearing about shortages of it right after. Americans love a good weight-loss scam.

From what I hear, at least, once your body gets hooked on it, you're stuck. You have to slowly titrate it for a long time, or you'll blow right up again immediately, and whether or not you do, most people don't have the willpower to live on salad greens forever without the drug.

It really looks like a way to put you on the hook. If being thin is worth that, then by all means, do it. But the price in this case seems to be that you have to use it forever to maintain dem gainzzzz.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 16, 2023 05:32 PM (oINRc)

41 Do this for a month and you will drop at least ten percent of your weight.

My brother lost about a pound a day just by not drinking coca cola any more. You can target stuff like that, don't sub it, just cut it out. That's a lot easier than "no sweets at all!" just pick one bad thing you have routinely and just stop that one thing. Then, after a couple months, maybe another. Its slow, but gives your body time to acclimate to the change and adjust to your new diet and lifestyle.

After a year of this you'll be amazed what has happened.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 16, 2023 05:33 PM (0hOvj)

42 I am only "fat phobic" if the fatty is climbing a ladder that might fall on me.

Posted by: Zek at June 16, 2023 05:33 PM (5FPX4)

43 The long trek from sofa to fridge and back is daunting. It is only with extreme courage, will power and can-do attitude that such gainzzzz are made.

Hostess bless us, every one.

Posted by: micky at June 16, 2023 05:33 PM (3byMq)

44 Body by Caterpillar, or maybe Komatsu…

Posted by: tubal at June 16, 2023 05:33 PM (PCK5/)

45 I'm staying at my mom's while she recuperates, and she watches TV (I haven't for years).

It's all drug commercials.

It's not clear what the drugs are for, but it is clear that they'll all kill you.

Ozempic wastes your muscle tissue substantially.

Posted by: moviegique at June 16, 2023 05:34 PM (lpWi1)

46 I got a lol from reading the hair and makeup credits. They truly worked some magic didn't they!

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 16, 2023 05:34 PM (ssESX)

47 It really looks like a way to put you on the hook. If being thin is worth that, then by all means, do it. But the price in this case seems to be that you have to use it forever to maintain dem gainzzzz.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 16, 2023 05:32 PM (oINRc)

All together now: "A patient cured is a customer lost."

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 16, 2023 05:34 PM (PiwSw)

48 Mack Bolan! Wow, I haven't heard that name since I was in grade 8 almost 40 (ahem) 15 years ago!

Posted by: KevinCanuck at June 16, 2023 05:34 PM (jSz/T)

49
None of the old folks celebrating their 100th birthday are fat. Maybe that’s a clue.

Posted by: EveR at June 16, 2023 05:30 PM

It might be a thing, 'cause old folks sniffers don't work so good so food doesn't taste so good, so they eat less. There's the next billion dollar invention - clothes pins for the nose.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 16, 2023 05:34 PM (enJYY)

50 I think there are a couple Silverbacks that'd like to date that "seasoned athlete."

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 16, 2023 05:35 PM (Q4IgG)

51 Hmm

Posted by: SOMEASSHOLESTOLEMYPEN at June 16, 2023 05:35 PM (ytSiK)

52 Targeted obesity is not necessarily, how you say, a bad thing.

Posted by: Paolo at June 16, 2023 05:35 PM (a3Q+t)

53 It's not clear what the drugs are for, but it is clear that they'll all kill you.

THere is literally one that has one of the side effects listed as "death." Its the anti-rheumatism medicine that can give you tuberculosis. And death.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 16, 2023 05:35 PM (0hOvj)

54 I bet Flapjack Tits has 'em on her back, too.

Posted by: wth at June 16, 2023 05:35 PM (v0R5T)

55 This is the woman who insists it is "comical" for a fitness pro at the gym to assume she needs instruction about how to exercise:


She's repellent. Grotesque. Nauseating. Seasoned athlete in what event? 100 meters of donut eating? Cheeto snarfling? Hog impersonation? My God if you cut her she'd ooze Crisco.


Posted by: Fuck the fat acceptance movement at June 16, 2023 05:35 PM (fE1zA)

56 This young lady walks into a Golden Corral Buffet and the first words she utters is ................

BRING ME A BUCKET !!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Ferd Berfall at June 16, 2023 05:35 PM (9e2kV)

57 Pvt. Pyle in the picture up top is a disgusting fat body.

GySgt. Hartman

Posted by: Archer at June 16, 2023 05:35 PM (gmo/4)

58 Not being 29 anymore, I suddenly have a middle that I never used to have. Sugar and the carbs that comes with it are my nemesis. I ordered a book recommended to me from Amazon '21 Day Sugar Detox: Bust Sugar and Carbs Cravings Naturally. Friends and some healthcare staff have done this and have lost a lot of weight and feel and look better. Easy? No. Still need to exercise control especially the first 14 days and keep moving.

Posted by: Cheri at June 16, 2023 05:36 PM (oiNtH)

59 osted by: BlackOrchid at June 16, 2023 05:30 PM (w0NJk)

Is this what happened to Kelly Clarkson ?

Holy Cow !

Posted by: polynikes at June 16, 2023 05:36 PM (MNhXM)

60 It might be a thing, 'cause old folks sniffers don't work so good so food doesn't taste so good, so they eat less.

Supposedly when you no longer can taste anything, that's the sign your body is just shutting off and you don't have long to live.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 16, 2023 05:36 PM (0hOvj)

61 Her rolls of fat emit squeaks as she ambles along in her exercise routine.

Posted by: Archer at June 16, 2023 05:37 PM (gmo/4)

62 Have any of you tried these new weight-loss drugs?.

No, and I never will.

I read the beginning of the article about the girl who was allegedly being fat -shamed. Maybe it's not always about you, intersectional victim number 43285...maybe the trainer, in the course of her long career, normally deals with patrons who want to slim down, even if they're a size 6 as opposed to size 16.

Yes, patrons join a gym to try out new routines, but don't act like you're gonna need reparations because a gym trainer assumed you wanted to get some tips on how to slim down.

FFS

Posted by: kallisto at June 16, 2023 05:37 PM (iTnyt)

63 If you are trying to lose weight, the best exercise you can do is to not eat something.

Walk on that treadmill for an hour and loom down to see that you've burned.....300 calories!

Then drink a large caramel macchiato and you've ingested.....210 calories.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at June 16, 2023 05:37 PM (IAwid)

64 Eat yourself to death, it's not my concern

Posted by: Skip at June 16, 2023 05:37 PM (xhxe8)

65 Black ladies, maybe you can help me understand but.. why would a woman do that to her hair? She looks ridiculous.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 16, 2023 05:37 PM (0hOvj)

66 I've slacked on my strength training and I'm really feeling it. Ugh. Gotta get back to it.

My current project is actually following through on things that I've been telling myself I should do. Each task I complete provides encouragement and momentum for the next task.

Most recent project is organizing a MoMe. I'm looking forward to seeing my favorite people next month!

Posted by: Emmie -- July 15 ArkanOklaMoMe RSVP email link in nic at June 16, 2023 05:37 PM (Emce2)

67 Worth noting.
Supposedly Jeremey Clarkson brags about using Ozempic and he is accused of having "Oxempic face," which is a thin face with loose skin caused by rapid weight loss.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at June 16, 2023 05:37 PM (BTsKw)

68 ace,

If you are looking for a nice violent series with good guys killing evil people doing evil things, the upcoming Sunday Morning Book Thread has a new release from a Moron author...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 16, 2023 05:38 PM (BpYfr)

69
"The first GLP-1 drug was made by copying a chemical found in the venom of the Gila monster. "

The desert for the win!

PSA: beware semaglutide side effects look nasty.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 16, 2023 05:38 PM (P59V4)

70 65 Black ladies, maybe you can help me understand but.. why would a woman do that to her hair? She looks ridiculous.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 16, 2023 05:37 PM (0hOvj)
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Man here, but I'll venture a guess... better reception?

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 16, 2023 05:38 PM (ssESX)

71 60 It might be a thing, 'cause old folks sniffers don't work so good so food doesn't taste so good, so they eat less.

Supposedly when you no longer can taste anything, that's the sign your body is just shutting off and you don't have long to live.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 16, 2023 05:36 PM (0hOvj)

That was the case with my father in law… a year before he died he started saying that his food either “ did not taste right”, or it did not have any taste to it. He became really i different about eating..

Posted by: tubal at June 16, 2023 05:38 PM (PCK5/)

72 Two words: Swimming.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 16, 2023 05:31 PM

Worked for me.

Posted by: Lia Thomas at June 16, 2023 05:39 PM (a3Q+t)

73 I've lost 70 pounds by just eliminating ice cream, cake, donuts, sweet rolls, pie, cupcakes, and M&Ms from my diet.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at June 16, 2023 05:39 PM (BdMk6)

74 Quite a few mumble their way past "death" and "suicidal or homicidal ideation".

My favorites are the symptoms of the disease. "If you've got longnoseosis, try Pinnochio (TM). Side-effects may include nose-lengthening..."

Posted by: moviegique at June 16, 2023 05:39 PM (lpWi1)

75 I looked at the pictures of Ms. Jaffe at the link. She is not a size 16. And I doubt she biked 550 miles in 7 days during an endurance event, even if it was an electric or gas powered bike.

Posted by: cfo mom at June 16, 2023 05:39 PM (Q8bDL)

76 The gal in the pic in not a size 16 unless she's about 5 foot tall. ~I'm~ bigger than a size 16 and I don't look that chunky.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at June 16, 2023 05:39 PM (ou9hh)

77 Western world had overabundance of food 50 years ago too yet obesity was far less common. It's a lifestyle and societal problem. From what the govt tells you to eat, to stupid sjw crap like this, to failing public education, people are less informed and drastically more sedentary. And rather than encourage people to simply eat well and exercise, they've gone full kafka

Posted by: FIB agent Brandon at June 16, 2023 05:40 PM (VQAjR)

78 Supposedly Jeremey Clarkson brags about using Ozempic and he is accused of having "Oxempic face," which is a thin face with loose skin caused by rapid weight loss.

Yeah, these cureall-pill dudes are all acquiring the Innsmouth look. Which is apparently preferable to eating less and exericising more.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at June 16, 2023 05:40 PM (ppBhU)

79 Please stop body shaming these black ladies. If they want to eat greasy fried chicken and cake all day every day, who are you to say no? Eat until you explode my beautiful black sisters!

Posted by: KKK at June 16, 2023 05:41 PM (WiAW9)

80 Ace watch the Netflix show sanctuary about sumo wrestlers. It’s awesome
Posted by: Mr pink at June 16, 2023 05:18 PM (rHrVL)

I agree.

"Sanctuary" is excellent. Streaming on Netflix about an up and coming sumo wrestler.

It's a whole different world.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 16, 2023 05:41 PM (fb7jX)

81 On obesity, my wife's mom passed away a few years ago. In the aftermath, we were looking through her old yearbooks that she'd kept from the 50s. As I perused the pages it dawned on me: not a single fatty in the lot. Must've been six or eight yearbooks, and even the staff were in decent shape.

The idea that being a slobbering tubbo would someday be a source of condescension is beyond fathoming. Orwell seems to have been premature in his predicted date, but the rest is falling in line nicely.

Posted by: red speck at June 16, 2023 05:41 PM (Ny/Va)

82 Phil Mickelson has dropped a goodly amount of weight, and I think he looks gaunt.

Sometimes a little bit of fluff helps the aesthetics…

Posted by: browndog on his cellphone at June 16, 2023 05:41 PM (CCSxw)

83 Supposedly when you no longer can taste anything, that's the sign your body is just shutting off and you don't have long to live.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 16, 2023 05:36 PM (0hOvj)


My FiL is going through that. He is refusing to eat at all and may have to be hospitalized.

I suspect he has only days left.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 16, 2023 05:41 PM (aD39U)

84 Posted by: BlackOrchid

I feel for your HS friend.
As far as I can tell it doesn't matter what you do after awhile (read over 29!) the corrected clubfeet just start to hurt after (and during) use. I just happen to have intimate knowledge of the effects.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 16, 2023 05:41 PM (P59V4)

85 Western world had overabundance of food 50 years ago too yet obesity was far less common.

We're more sedentary than 50 years ago, everything is a finger movement away now. I don't even have to go shopping for groceries any more. You can turn on your washing machine with your phone now.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 16, 2023 05:41 PM (0hOvj)

86 good guys killing evil people doing evil things, the upcoming Sunday Morning Book Thread
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 16, 2023 05:38 PM

You're finally going after those non-pants wearing scofflaws?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 16, 2023 05:42 PM (a3Q+t)

87 The only thing "curvy" about her is how light behaves once it is subjected to her gravity well.

Back when I was a single man, I hated the term "curvy." You know it always means blobular. Kate Winslet in top shape is "curvy." Women who call themselves such are more usually in denial.

Posted by: Dr. Orpheus at June 16, 2023 05:42 PM (nX7gw)

88 @77
A lot less manufacturing jobs, also not as many jobs tjat involve heavy lifting, more people living off the govt teet.


Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 16, 2023 05:42 PM (ssESX)

89
All together now: "A patient cured is a customer lost."
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 16, 2023 05:34 PM (PiwSw)

In this case, I'm pretty sure it's unintended. I remember the drug being around for several years, and it was intended to treat an already lifelong medical condition (diabetes), so there was no "cure" to peddle. The user was always assumed to be locked-in, unless something better comes along.

IIRC, the off-label use was originally a Hollywood thing. Models and actresses looking to step up from cocktail waitresses to "third drunk lady at the hen party in 'Summer Grossout Teen Sex Comedy XIV'" figured out you could drop pounds on the double with it.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 16, 2023 05:43 PM (oINRc)

90 My favorites are the symptoms of the disease. "If you've got longnoseosis, try Pinnochio (TM). Side-effects may include nose-lengthening..."
Posted by moviegique at June 16, 2023 05:39 PM (lpWi1)

Steve Martin tells the story that during filming of Roxanne, he had to use the bathroom at this diner, and on the way to the bathroom, he (who was still wearing his makeup) had to pass by some burly workers, so he was expecting some smart comments. Surprisingly, only one said to him "Why the long face?"

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 16, 2023 05:43 PM (PiwSw)

91
Lace Wigs are made from shoe laces...

I read it on the internet so it must be true.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 16, 2023 05:43 PM (n+4am)

92 What Ive heard about Ozempic is that the weight loss is an unnatural side effect, and apart from shitting one's drawers, the weight loss reverses almost immediately once the user stops taking it.

Posted by: red speck at June 16, 2023 05:43 PM (Ny/Va)

93
Eat yourself to death, it's not my concern

Posted by: Skip at June 16, 2023 05:37 PM

As long as they work for half a century, paying into Social Security the entire time and drop dead on the way to the mailbox to collect their very first check, I agree.

Of course Juan, who just burned 4,000 calories today humping shingles up to the roof is gonna last forever. It's not replacement theory, it's reality. Not sure if Juan, living in the shadows, is gonna get a check either.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 16, 2023 05:43 PM (enJYY)

94 ive not felt good the last few weeks and have not been able to play tennis. 90 degree temps still at 9pm doesn't help. I blame my current situation as a result of my two kidney stone surgeries. I think my immune system was screwed up because of the anesthesia and antibiotics.

Posted by: polynikes at June 16, 2023 05:43 PM (MNhXM)

95 My snarking earlier aside, I do not care about her weight… or anyone else’s for that matter… I have gained some weight over the years, but I honestly don’t know how much I weigh.. my wife has a scale that she has turned into a shrine To Our Lady of the Calories…

Posted by: tubal at June 16, 2023 05:44 PM (PCK5/)

96 69. AZ deplorable moron


I sing whenever I sing whenever I sing….

Posted by: Blutarski at June 16, 2023 05:44 PM (GSDl4)

97 I just downloaded the first book of Mack Bolan, The Executioner and the first book of the Remo Williams series. I wanted to try some violent pulp.

Posted by: Ace
.......

Try Best American Mystery Stories - annual anthology of mystery and thriller short stories. I'm on my second one.

Posted by: wth at June 16, 2023 05:44 PM (v0R5T)

98 I stopped taking the tiny dose of beta blocker that I've been taking to prevent migraines and I am sleeping better and I think the scale is moving a tiny bit downward (fingers crossed)

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at June 16, 2023 05:44 PM (3XGWd)

99 Yes Ms. Creosote, Your table is right next to the cake and ice cream area............

Posted by: Ferd Berfall at June 16, 2023 05:44 PM (9e2kV)

100 Maybe — just maybe — we don’t need to keep jamming down pills to fix everyday things like extra weight? How about assess what’s causing it instead of focusing on fixing the symptoms?

Every one is seemingly on multiple drugs for birth control, depression, adhd, and on and on. When do you deal with issues instead of letting big pharma take the wheel?

Gah!

Posted by: Lizzy at June 16, 2023 05:45 PM (SG6D1)

101 She created a food desert all by herself then moved on. Like a one-woman swarm of locusts.

Posted by: Devoured everything in sight then went looking for more! at June 16, 2023 05:45 PM (fE1zA)

102 Jaffe is downright slender compared to some women. Well a lot of women. And men too. I look at them and ask 'why are you killing yourself?'

Posted by: Eromero at June 16, 2023 05:46 PM (Uv0D2)

103 The only thing I know to tell anyone as a motivational tactic is to take a long look at yourself in the mirror and say "You are a disgusting, fat bastard. You make me sick, you fat pig" to yourself every morning.

If you can do that and then also think to yourself when you are sitting down to eat your Big Mac and fries "This is why you will die fat, ugly, unwanted and alone. No one will even want to be your pall bearer because you weigh too much" while tears roll down your cheek, you will eventually put enough pressure on yourself mentally for those fries and disgusting special sauce to taste like failure as you munch on them and choke them down through your silent sobs.

At that point hopefully your comfort food will become self-loathing food and instead of cramming everything in your mouth you'll finally take charge of your life.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at June 16, 2023 05:46 PM (IAwid)

104 87 >>Back when I was a single man, I hated the term "curvy." You know it always means blobular. Kate Winslet in top shape is "curvy." Women who call themselves such are more usually in denial.


A pear is curvy. A pear-shaped woman is not sexy. Neither is a potato on stilts.

Posted by: red speck at June 16, 2023 05:46 PM (Ny/Va)

105 On obesity, my wife's mom passed away a few years ago. In the aftermath, we were looking through her old yearbooks that she'd kept from the 50s. As I perused the pages it dawned on me: not a single fatty in the lot. Must've been six or eight yearbooks, and even the staff were in decent shape.

The idea that being a slobbering tubbo would someday be a source of condescension is beyond fathoming. Orwell seems to have been premature in his predicted date, but the rest is falling in line nicely.
Posted by: red speck at June 16, 2023 05:41 PM (Ny/Va)

My graduation yearbook of 1967 had only 2 or 3 overweight (but not obese) students in it.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at June 16, 2023 05:46 PM (BdMk6)

106 No wonder the children of Africa are starving !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Ferd Berfall at June 16, 2023 05:46 PM (9e2kV)

107 I have heard wegovy has a lot of side effects but ozempic is easier on the body

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at June 16, 2023 05:47 PM (3XGWd)

108 I'm sorry, but she's hideous. I would have no problem with a heavy woman wearing something nice and appropriate. This? No thank you.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 16, 2023 05:47 PM (bkUtD)

109 Over 100 and no Stacey Abrams comparisons?

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 16, 2023 05:47 PM (PiwSw)

110 When I used to go to the gym faithfully, it was the usual crowd of college-age to around early 50s who frequented the place. Everyone was reasonably fit.

Then one night a very overweight young woman showed up and started working out on the stairmaster. She came in around 9pm (the gym closed at 10), Thereafter I'd see her arrive late and begin her workout just as I was leaving.

I changed my workout timing, so I didn't see her for about six months. One evening I showed up late again, and there was the fat girl, and there she was on the Stairmaster...at least 50 pounds lighter. Who knows, maybe it was a hundred pounds she lost, she was considerably thinner. I always admired her for her discipline and the results she got. A similar situation occurred at a hiking trail I used to frequent.
There was a fat girl who was there all the time, and little by little, she shrunk down to healthy size.
And I never heard either of them cry about fat-shaming. Kudos to them and anyone else who has the determination and discipline to do what it takes to slim down and get healthy.

Posted by: kallisto at June 16, 2023 05:47 PM (iTnyt)

111 good guys killing evil people doing evil things, the upcoming Sunday Morning Book Thread
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 16, 2023 05:38 PM

You're finally going after those non-pants wearing scofflaws?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 16, 2023 05:42 PM (a3Q+t)
---
Ya can't say ya haven't been warned!

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 16, 2023 05:47 PM (BpYfr)

112 Fat people are not fat because they're particularly lazy. They're fat because their bodies don't properly regulate their blood sugar. Their bodies would probably be pretty healthy during periods of food scarcity, but, of course, the western world doesn't see much food scarcity. It sees mostly food overabundance.

I don't buy into that.

My oldest friend is obese. He even got band surgery and lost a ton of weight, however -

he has lousy eating habits and they didn't change. Yeah, yeah. He'd get the cup of soup not the bowl but it would always be some big calorie pit like Clam Chowder. Yeah, yeah. He'd get plain ice tea but then he'd dump 5 or 6 packets of sugar in it. Things like that.

And then combined with no exercise...roughly two years later he was worse off than before the surgery.

Bad habits combined with the nature of fat cells, which never go away. They merely shrink. So, they're always ready to load up on fat again.

This drug may be a godsend.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 16, 2023 05:47 PM (fb7jX)

113 You don't need fancy weight control drugs. All you need is an actual decision to change your lifestyle to lose weight.

Weight control drugs aren't going to keep weight off. They may help you LOSE it, temporarily, but if you don't change your actual eating habits that got you there in the first place, then as soon as you stop the drug it piles right back on.

Weight control drugs are just a substitution for fat people wanting to lose weight but not actually wanting to put down the fork.

I was pretty chunky for a while and I finally made the actual decision to lose weight recently, and so far I've lost 12 pounds in a month (want to do another 20) simply by not eating junk, drinking water instead of soda, and eating reasonable portions of meals.

Posted by: DudeAbiding at June 16, 2023 05:48 PM (AjL/0)

114 108 I'm sorry, but she's hideous. I would have no problem with a heavy woman wearing something nice and appropriate. This? No thank you.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 16, 2023 05:47 PM (bkUtD)

That is exactly the reaction her getup was soliciting…

Posted by: tubal at June 16, 2023 05:48 PM (PCK5/)

115 >>>Over 100 and no Stacey Abrams comparisons?
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper


We try not to invoke its name.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 16, 2023 05:48 PM (bkUtD)

116 I commiserate with that woman for one thing: I find gyms mind-numbingly boring. My doctor said that because I've been on calorie-restrictive diets since I was a pre-teen, cutting calories won't work for long. I have to exercise a LOT more to keep my weight down.

I'm on an exercise quest. So far, I'm not crazy about yoga.

The slim women on my maternal side, including my mother, were poor role models. They ate only once a day, with beer supplements on weekends. (And cigarettes for many years.) The only exercises Mom taught me were arm circles, leg-lifts, and something called a "waist-whittler".



Posted by: NaughtyPine at June 16, 2023 05:48 PM (/+bwe)

117 Just got back from today's ride.
16 miles of Singletrack with about 1600 feet of elevation gain in there.

Didn't see a soul on the trail.

GAINZ are good. Could have gone for another 5 miles or so if I remembered to bring some food.

Posted by: garrett at June 16, 2023 05:48 PM (/wJlv)

118 *reads post a third time*

Posted by: Chris Christie at June 16, 2023 05:48 PM (RIvkX)

119 A pear is curvy. A pear-shaped woman is not sexy. Neither is a potato on stilts.
Posted by: red speck at June 16, 2023 05:46 PM (Ny/Va)

I only did that the one time in grade school. It was either that or the sack race...

Posted by: Brian Stelter at June 16, 2023 05:48 PM (PiwSw)

120 @100
Big Pharma invests everything in drugs to mitigate and control symptoms, never in a cure. The pills can become a crutch that denies the motivatoon to pursue any other treatments.

I'd like to think I could survive being stranded in the wilderness for weeks or months without my BP meds.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 16, 2023 05:49 PM (ssESX)

121 I like curvy girls fine: if she's 5'3 and weighs 130, she's soft and a bit chunky but tolerable. If she's 5'3 and weighs 210, she has a real problem and needs to work on herself. I know this kind of thing because I need to work on my self, too. We all need fixing, just some are more obvious than others.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 16, 2023 05:49 PM (0hOvj)

122 I think Ace posts heavies like Beth for the same reason that Hoarders and My 600lb Life exists. To make us feel better about ourselves.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 16, 2023 05:49 PM (aD39U)

123 >>>That is exactly the reaction her getup was soliciting…
Posted by: tubal


I'm no Adonis. I weigh about 182, I jog five miles every other day and go to the gym the other days. That said, I don't take my shirt off at the beach, and I don't wear clothes that would make me look awful.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 16, 2023 05:49 PM (bkUtD)

124 motivation
!

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 16, 2023 05:49 PM (ssESX)

125 You don't need to be a fitness model.

Eat less. Walk more.

Posted by: garrett at June 16, 2023 05:50 PM (/wJlv)

126 BOOKS:

Based on ace's enthusiam for the series, I bought a collection of Ian Fleming's Bond books. I'm a little over halfway through the first (Casino Royale). Fleming is a pretty good stylist and it's interesting. I am now dumb enough to think I could play Baccarat.

GAINZ:

Still working out. Still making progress. I am dinged up as hell though. Sore knee from exercise bike. Sore elbow from lifting. Can't tell whether I'm dealing with mild injuries or arthritis. Going to just try and work through it unless the conditions worsen.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at June 16, 2023 05:50 PM (ppBhU)

127 Putting aside how chunky this "athlete" is... wouldn't they know to tie their shoes so as to not fall during exercises? Or is this a new fashion trend similar to pants below someone's a$$ so we can see their undies?

Posted by: Brando at June 16, 2023 05:50 PM (IL8V+)

128 I think that woman took to heart what a lot of black men have said. They like their women like they like their oatmeal. Thick and lumpy.

Posted by: polynikes at June 16, 2023 05:51 PM (MNhXM)

129 123 >>>That is exactly the reaction her getup was soliciting…
Posted by: tubal


I'm no Adonis. I weigh about 182, I jog five miles every other day and go to the gym the other days. That said, I don't take my shirt off at the beach, and I don't wear clothes that would make me look awful.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 16, 2023 05:49 PM (bkUtD)

I am built like a block of wood… no grace, no style to this body that God gave me. No amount of anything will change this blunt object.

Posted by: tubal at June 16, 2023 05:51 PM (PCK5/)

130 I'm starting to enjoy viewing these images of young obese females flaunting their blubber, because it gets me to wondering what percentile I"m in with respect to being in decent shape, as in looking good in a bathing suit.

I'd say that I'm at least in the top 50% of all females wrt how I look in bathing suit, but in my age cohort, maybe top 20%, I don't know. How does one gauge this metric?

As the fat positivity movement took hold, I'd look around and marvel how out of shape so many young women were, then I realized, dag, their fatness is making me as an old lady look better.

Posted by: kallisto at June 16, 2023 05:52 PM (iTnyt)

131 I got a copy of her workout mix tape:

https://tinyurl.com/2x9zchk3

Posted by: wth at June 16, 2023 05:52 PM (v0R5T)

132 Did Lawrence Taylor transition?

Posted by: Puddleglum at June 16, 2023 05:53 PM (sAmhv)

133 81 On obesity, my wife's mom passed away a few years ago. In the aftermath, we were looking through her old yearbooks that she'd kept from the 50s. As I perused the pages it dawned on me: not a single fatty in the lot. Must've been six or eight yearbooks, and even the staff were in decent shape.

The idea that being a slobbering tubbo would someday be a source of condescension is beyond fathoming. Orwell seems to have been premature in his predicted date, but the rest is falling in line nicely.
Posted by: red speck at June 16, 2023 05:41 PM
I grew up in a farming community in S.C. in the 50s and 60s, and knew maybe 6 fat people. The 3 in school were athletes, and the 3 adults worked.

Posted by: Eromero at June 16, 2023 05:54 PM (Uv0D2)

134 Simple... 25% body fat means 25% of your weight, does NOTHING FOR YOU. It is not a muscle to help you move... it is not an organ to process blood, or food... it is a storage device for when you have no food.

Problem, we have food all the time now.... soooo...

I'm back down to about 15% body fat, which is still too much... at 210 lbs I need to loose at least 10 to 12 lbs of fat to get to the 10% I want to be at.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 16, 2023 05:54 PM (oHd/0)

135 >>> 45 I'm staying at my mom's while she recuperates, and she watches TV (I haven't for years).

It's all drug commercials.

It's not clear what the drugs are for, but it is clear that they'll all kill you.

Ozempic wastes your muscle tissue substantially.
Posted by: moviegique at June 16, 2023 05:34 PM (lpWi1)

My favorites are the drugs to treat side effects from other drugs.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 16, 2023 05:54 PM (llON8)

136 Looking at that photo, I'd thought all pro nosetackle Vince Wilfolk retired.

Posted by: Regular joe at June 16, 2023 05:54 PM (nnp+f)

137 108 >>I'm sorry, but she's hideous. I would have no problem with a heavy woman wearing something nice and appropriate. This? No thank you.


On one of those Based Men podcasts where a guy talks to several "influencer" types of women who measure their worth by the number of followers, there was one snippet that popped up where this completely spherical, overstuffed trans-thing rated xerself as a 10. The delusion was mind-boggling. The other hoes -- too afraid to speak truthfully in our 21st century feminist nirvana -- nodded along though clearly in a state of strange inner turmoil.

Posted by: red speck at June 16, 2023 05:54 PM (Ny/Va)

138 How does one gauge this metric?


You pick a location and then add an objective metric based on the average others in that location.

For instance a Waffle House 8. Or a Dollar Store 7.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at June 16, 2023 05:54 PM (IAwid)

139 Just finished The last Jack Carr book in the Terminal List series.. I highly recommend the series

Posted by: It's me donna at June 16, 2023 05:55 PM (bs+z0)

140 5 I WOULD DO HER ANYDAY OF THE WEEK THAT HILLARY IS NOT AROUND !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Bill Clinton at June 16, 2023 05:21 PM (9e2kV)
----
I saw today that he was also know as Dollar Bill.

Posted by: Ciampino - Partial mobilization is when you are drafted in whole, and returned back in parts at June 16, 2023 05:55 PM (qfLjt)

141 Every one is seemingly on multiple drugs for birth control, depression, adhd, and on and on. When do you deal with issues instead of letting big pharma take the wheel?

Gah!
Posted by: Lizzy

With few exceptions, most pills treat symptoms or delay symptoms. While bringing in side effects.
Big Pharma is very unhealthy to society.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at June 16, 2023 05:55 PM (BTsKw)

142 In the old days people did more activities… they also smoked a lot.. and did not have hormone filled foods… just spitballing..

Posted by: tubal at June 16, 2023 05:55 PM (PCK5/)

143 Posted by: Eromero at June 16, 2023 05:54 PM (Uv0D2)

Funny how obesity spiked, right after they pretty much outlawed smoking cigarettes.

So... are we killing more folks by being fat? or did we kill more by smoking.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 16, 2023 05:55 PM (oHd/0)

144 downloaded how? paid?

Posted by: DaveA at June 16, 2023 05:55 PM (FhXTo)

145 >>Did Lawrence Taylor transition?


Yep. He identifies as Nel Carter, now.

Posted by: garrett at June 16, 2023 05:56 PM (/wJlv)

146 medicine that can give you tuberculosis.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

No 'medicine' can *give* you TB.
They can lower your resistance; but, you have to be exposed to TB to *get* TB.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 16, 2023 05:56 PM (P59V4)

147 103 The only thing I know to tell anyone as a motivational tactic is to take a long look at yourself in the mirror and say "You are a disgusting, fat bastard. You make me sick, you fat pig" to yourself every morning.

If you can do that and then also think to yourself when you are sitting down to eat your Big Mac and fries "This is why you will die fat, ugly, unwanted and alone. No one will even want to be your pall bearer because you weigh too much" while tears roll down your cheek, you will eventually put enough pressure on yourself mentally for those fries and disgusting special sauce to taste like failure as you munch on them and choke them down through your silent sobs.

At that point hopefully your comfort food will become self-loathing food and instead of cramming everything in your mouth you'll finally take charge of your life.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at June 16, 2023 05:46 PM
BC, you ever see Fatso movie with Dom DeLuise?

Posted by: Eromero at June 16, 2023 05:56 PM (Uv0D2)

148 Yep. He identifies as Nel Carter, now.
Posted by: garrett at June 16, 2023 05:56 PM (/wJlv

An dead Black woman ?

Posted by: It's me donna at June 16, 2023 05:56 PM (bs+z0)

149 BC, you ever see Fatso movie with Dom DeLuise?
Posted by: Eromero at June 16, 2023 05:56 PM (Uv0D2)

.....

No.

Should I?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at June 16, 2023 05:57 PM (IAwid)

150 It isn't always eating. I'm 5' 3", and I never weighed more than 130 lbs my entire adult life, barring pregnancy. When I worked at a garden center outdoors in my fifties, I had a hard time keeping my weight over 100. Then came menopause, and the weight crept up no matter what I did, I dieted myself into cardiac irregularities. A Mayo clinic report came out a couple of years ago--turns out they found only walking actually works for those who are post menopausal. My right leg is shorter, and walking long distances spazzed my back. Any suggestions?

Posted by: Lirio100 at June 16, 2023 05:57 PM (w/VHS)

151 I just don't get how people can even move around with twice my weight on them

Posted by: Skip at June 16, 2023 05:58 PM (xhxe8)

152 No gainzzzzz yet BUT I am back on the bike. There are some moderate hills near the house and I haven't had to stop going up one yet (but it's been close).

Just have to keep at it and add some miles.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 16, 2023 05:58 PM (JOV35)

153 Every one is seemingly on multiple drugs for birth control, depression, adhd, and on and on. When do you deal with issues instead of letting big pharma take the wheel?

Gah!
Posted by: Lizzy

I don't take anything except an occasional aspirin or Ibuprof... my Doctor keeps bitching at my cholesterol, yet there is NO history of heart probs in the family, even though we all have supposedly high cholesterol.

But then... I also don't even have a credit card... there is something about someone else being able to control me, that this Sigma detests.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 16, 2023 05:58 PM (oHd/0)

154 No 'medicine' can *give* you TB.

Its listed as one of the side effects. Presumably they mean reduce resistance to Tuberculosis, yeah.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 16, 2023 05:58 PM (0hOvj)

155 I've been on Ozempic for 5 weeks and keto for 7. I walk 2 miles daily and do resistance training at Planet Fitness- 8 stations 3 sets of 20 reps of the most I can do and still finish. I'm down to 298 this morning from 355. I take the Ozempic on Friday (for type 2 diabetes- now well controlled per a1c). Puke all day Saturday, don't want to eat (have to force myself to take 1 small meal after Saturday). Start feeling minor hunger again on Wed or Thurs. I'm still only on .5 MG dose

Posted by: Farmer Bob at June 16, 2023 05:58 PM (kbeGA)

156
If I went through my HS yearbook I doubt that anymore then 1% of classmates of either sex were fat, and not a single one approaching the woman pictured above. Say what you may about 'fat-shaming' but it was effective. When did 'peer pressure' become such a horrible thing? I mean peer pressure to use drugs bad, but peer pressure to look healthy and not a whale that needs to be dragged back into the water?

Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 16, 2023 05:58 PM (enJYY)

157 A Mayo clinic report came out a couple of years ago--turns out they found only walking actually works for those who are post menopausal. My right leg is shorter, and walking long distances spazzed my back. Any suggestions?

Maybe swimming, that tends to be easier on joints etc.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 16, 2023 05:59 PM (0hOvj)

158 Posted by: Farmer Bob at June 16, 2023 05:58 PM (kbeGA)

.....

Nice!

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at June 16, 2023 05:59 PM (IAwid)

159 >>>I am built like a block of wood… no grace, no style to this body that God gave me. No amount of anything will change this blunt object.
Posted by: tubal


I also ain't exactly handsome, but baseball caps fix some of that.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 16, 2023 05:59 PM (bkUtD)

160 My favorites are the drugs to treat side effects from other drugs.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 16, 2023 05:54 PM (llON

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Yeah! There's also one that goes "Maybe your antidepressant that isn't working IS working but it just needs a little booster in the form of ANOTHER antidepressant."

I keep saying to myself "These are the guys who made Zyklon B..."

Posted by: moviegique at June 16, 2023 06:00 PM (lpWi1)

161 134 Simple... 25% body fat means 25% of your weight, does NOTHING FOR YOU. It is not a muscle to help you move... it is not an organ to process blood, or food... it is a storage device for when you have no food.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 16, 2023 05:54 PM (oHd/0)
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Some fat is necessary for cushioning organs such as the heart and kidneys. If all the fat in the buttocks were gone then it would be painful to sit for long periods.

Posted by: Ciampino -- Partial mobilization is when you are drafted in whole, and returned back in parts at June 16, 2023 06:00 PM (qfLjt)

162 My right leg is shorter, and walking long distances spazzed my back. Any suggestions?
Posted by: Lirio100 at June 16, 2023 05:57 PM (w/VHS)

There are shoe stores that can help... usually pricey, but might be worth it. Look for the stores that do testing.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 16, 2023 06:00 PM (oHd/0)

163 >>>Start feeling minor hunger again on Wed or Thurs. I'm still only on .5 MG dose
Posted by: Farmer Bob


Excellent. Keep it up!

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 16, 2023 06:00 PM (bkUtD)

164 146 medicine that can give you tuberculosis.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

No 'medicine' can *give* you TB.
They can lower your resistance; but, you have to be exposed to TB to *get* TB.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 16, 2023 05:56 PM (P59V4)
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Those same drugs can also lower your body's ability to fight cancer... sounds like a winner!

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 16, 2023 06:00 PM (ssESX)

165 They aren't disgustingly fat because of blood sugar regulation, or PCOS, or whatever. They're disgustingly fat because they eat 6000-10000 calories a day all day every day. Every one of these reality shows on morbid obesity shows every single one of them saying "oh I don't eat very much I just don't understand." The trainers and dieticians investigate and surprise surprise they're eating 8 meals a day with large pizzas and a six-pack of Coca Cola for between meal snacks. That one trainer fired fat pig Whitney Way Thore because he went to her car and saw the piles of pizza boxes and empty extra large Starbucks 1000 calorie coffee cups. They're doing to themselves, nearly without exception.

Posted by: Quit stuffing your goddamn face! at June 16, 2023 06:00 PM (fE1zA)

166 142 In the old days people did more activities… they also smoked a lot.. and did not have hormone filled foods… just spitballing..
Posted by: tubal at June 16, 2023 05:55 PM (PCK5/)

Smoking was the weight loss tool of the 20th century til what, the 80s?

Posted by: Nova Local at June 16, 2023 06:00 PM (exHjb)

167 My right leg is shorter, and walking long distances spazzed my back. Any suggestions?


Water aerobics? Zero impact, resistance in all directions. My wife has a bad knee and she loves it.

Fair warning, though, most of the attendees will be ladies who were 29 40+ years ago and have no filter. They'll talk about anything in the pool, or so I'm told.

Posted by: GM27, SEP Field Technician at June 16, 2023 06:00 PM (xPT11)

168 Maybe Big Pharma could start marketing worm pills…. hookworm, roundworm, pinworm, tapeworm… put it in capsules, make adds showing happy couples and children playing in the yard, then scooting off to the bathroom… and coming out and announcing “ two more pounds lost”!!! and everyone being congratulatory… then a slow fade with stirring music!

Posted by: tubal at June 16, 2023 06:01 PM (PCK5/)

169 Just a reminder: We're all gonna die. Some sooner rather than later, whether we're fit or not.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at June 16, 2023 06:01 PM (BdMk6)

170 156
If I went through my HS yearbook I doubt that anymore then 1% of classmates of either sex were fat, and not a single one approaching the woman pictured above. Say what you may about 'fat-shaming' but it was effective.


Shame -- in many forms -- can be a force for good. If the lack of shame resulted in what we see in 2023, its return is long overdue.

Posted by: red speck at June 16, 2023 06:01 PM (Ny/Va)

171 I walked 18 holes of golf yesterday and I'm feeling the effects. I'm definitely not thin. I walk a lot though. Need to eat a bit less. I tend to graze, especially at work.

Posted by: Puddleglum at June 16, 2023 06:01 PM (sAmhv)

172 Some fat is necessary for cushioning organs such as the heart and kidneys. If all the fat in the buttocks were gone then it would be painful to sit for long periods.
Posted by: Ciampino -- Partial mobilization is when you are drafted in whole, and returned back in parts at June 16, 2023 06:00 PM (qfLjt)

I've been as low as 5% in my life... most of my military years was between 8% and 10%... which is my goal.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 16, 2023 06:01 PM (oHd/0)

173 My right leg is shorter, and walking long distances spazzed my back. Any suggestions?

my boss is postmenopausal and she's had luck staying in shape by doing planks. She stays away from refined carbs as much as she can though too.

Posted by: kallisto at June 16, 2023 06:01 PM (iTnyt)

174 167 My right leg is shorter, and walking long distances spazzed my back. Any suggestions?


Change your name to Eileen?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at June 16, 2023 06:02 PM (IAwid)

175 I am built like a block of wood… no grace, no style to this body that God gave me. No amount of anything will change this blunt object.

I assume God made me after reading The Hobbit. "Why didn't I think of that?" Life in The Shire is hard, yo.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at June 16, 2023 06:02 PM (ppBhU)

176 Stages of change:
1. pre-contemplation
2. contemplation
3. implementation
4. evaluation

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 16, 2023 06:02 PM (RIvkX)

177 "The idea that being a slobbering tubbo would someday be a source of condescension is beyond fathoming."

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It really is amazing. Looking at childhood photos from the 70's-80's nobody is fat. Being chubby was rare (everyone was poor) and fat was something that really stood out.

Posted by: Jay in PA at June 16, 2023 06:02 PM (i7Q7S)

178 Posted by: kallisto at June 16, 2023 05:52 PM
Pictures!

Posted by: Eromero at June 16, 2023 06:02 PM (Uv0D2)

179 A Mayo clinic report came out a couple of years ago--turns out they found only walking actually works for those who are post menopausal. My right leg is shorter, and walking long distances spazzed my back. Any suggestions?
Posted by: Lirio100

I'd be happy to chase you around the parking lot for hours if you think that would help.

What can I say, I'm a giver!

jk - could you do stationary workouts like rowing machines? Positives are no impacts and you can go at it at the pace that is good for you.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 16, 2023 06:02 PM (JOV35)

180 155 I've been on Ozempic for 5 weeks and keto for 7. I walk 2 miles daily and do resistance training at Planet Fitness- 8 stations 3 sets of 20 reps of the most I can do and still finish. I'm down to 298 this morning from 355. I take the Ozempic on Friday (for type 2 diabetes- now well controlled per a1c). Puke all day Saturday, don't want to eat (have to force myself to take 1 small meal after Saturday). Start feeling minor hunger again on Wed or Thurs. I'm still only on .5 MG dose
Posted by: Farmer Bob at June 16, 2023 05:58 PM (kbeGA)

If you don't have it, I'd buy some bone broth for meals when you don't want to eat anything...you don't want to lose all your muscle...

Posted by: Nova Local at June 16, 2023 06:02 PM (exHjb)

181 I'm not interested in getting between those legs. I don't I'd ever get out

Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at June 16, 2023 06:03 PM (VdGjU)

182 153
I don't take anything except an occasional aspirin or Ibuprof... my Doctor keeps bitching at my cholesterol, yet there is NO history of heart probs in the family, even though we all have supposedly high cholesterol.

But then... I also don't even have a credit card... there is something about someone else being able to control me, that this Sigma detests.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 16, 2023 05:58 PM (oHd/0)

Hey!!! Those docs have pills to push.. or they’re outta that Group Practice..

Posted by: tubal at June 16, 2023 06:03 PM (PCK5/)

183 "My doctor said that because I've been on calorie-restrictive diets since I was a pre-teen, cutting calories won't work for long"

I keep hearing that there's some epigenetic crap going on with women who diet during their pregancies, that it predisposes their babies to gain weight like they've been starved because... they have.

Dunno how accurate it is, given the state of medical research, but sometime you just have a worse hand from the start.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at June 16, 2023 06:03 PM (ou9hh)

184 This is the woman who insists it is "comical" for a fitness pro at the gym to assume she needs instruction about how to exercise:

Wow. Let's be charitable and call her trans-svelte.

Posted by: t-bird at June 16, 2023 06:03 PM (Sv58p)

185 Just a reminder: We're all gonna die. Some sooner rather than later, whether we're fit or not.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at June 16, 2023 06:01 PM (BdMk6)
.......

This is true, but I am determined to fit inside the casket.

Posted by: wth at June 16, 2023 06:04 PM (v0R5T)

186 One of my kindergarten buddies has struggled with weight his whole life. But he has more hair than ever.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 16, 2023 06:04 PM (RIvkX)

187 "they aren't disgustingly fat because of blood sugar regulation, or PCOS, or whatever. They're disgustingly fat because they eat 6000-10000 calories a day all day every day."

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You really have to work at it to be 200+ lbs overweight. I can't imagine how these people do this. At some point, don't they just feel full (or even sick) and want to stop eating?

Posted by: Jay in PA at June 16, 2023 06:04 PM (i7Q7S)

188 >>> 141 Every one is seemingly on multiple drugs for birth control, depression, adhd, and on and on. When do you deal with issues instead of letting big pharma take the wheel?

Gah!
Posted by: Lizzy

With few exceptions, most pills treat symptoms or delay symptoms. While bringing in side effects.
Big Pharma is very unhealthy to society.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at June 16, 2023 05:55 PM (BTsKw)

That's not fair! We have drugs for the side effects, too!!

Posted by: Big Pharma at June 16, 2023 06:04 PM (llON8)

189 " Puke all day Saturday, don't want to eat (have to force myself to take 1 small meal after Saturday). Start feeling minor hunger again on Wed or Thurs."

Sounds like the ol' flu diet.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at June 16, 2023 06:04 PM (ou9hh)

190
Funny how obesity spiked, right after they pretty much outlawed smoking cigarettes.

So... are we killing more folks by being fat? or did we kill more by smoking.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 16, 2023 05:55 PM

I think it's in a similar vein as old folks losing the ability to taste food and losing the craving to eat. Lick an ashtray and then tell me how hungry you are. Yeah, don't, but you get the idea.

A tongue coated with nicotine is gonna block the taste receptor feedback mechanism. It simply doesn't taste so good and you eat less.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 16, 2023 06:05 PM (enJYY)

191 Are you fat because you overeat or do you overeat because you're fat?

Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at June 16, 2023 06:05 PM (VdGjU)

192 @184
Or trans-fit!

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 16, 2023 06:05 PM (ssESX)

193 I'm down 55 pounds this year and want to drop 20 more before 2024. I'm finding that it's becoming exponentially more difficult to goad my body into metabolizing my remaining fat stores. Why that is, I'm not sure. But, I'm now beginning another "maintenance" break which will last for a couple of weeks after which I will dive back in for another round of hardcore dieting.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at June 16, 2023 06:05 PM (DTX3h)

194 I certainly did it to myself, no excuses. Not sure the vitriol helps. I was a marine and triathlete, near 300 pft. Problem is, when you stop training and burning 6000 calories a day, your appetite doesn't care. For me I just kept eating and ballooned up.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at June 16, 2023 06:05 PM (kbeGA)

195 Taco Bell is the best way to lose weight. IYKWIM

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 16, 2023 06:06 PM (8GBH4)

196 This is true, but I am determined to fit inside the casket.
Posted by: wth

No worries! I am familiar with the funeral trade - they make 'double wides' in a number of sizes - the largest can fit 12 pallbearers.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 16, 2023 06:06 PM (JOV35)

197 >> One of my kindergarten buddies has struggled with weight his whole life. But he has more hair than ever.


I bet it is coming in nice on his palms.

Posted by: garrett at June 16, 2023 06:06 PM (/wJlv)

198 Just a reminder: We're all gonna die. Some sooner rather than later, whether we're fit or not.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at June 16, 2023 06:01 PM (BdMk6)

True but in the meantime I'd rather not be 500 pounds overweight, immobile, unable to wipe my own ass or see my own dick, and growing fungus under my enormous gut-flap.

Posted by: If they have to knock a wall down to get your corpse out the house, you're too fat at June 16, 2023 06:06 PM (fE1zA)

199 Good for you Farmer Bob. Ensure might be a good calorie replacement if you're nauseous.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 16, 2023 06:06 PM (RIvkX)

200 And I never heard either of them cry about fat-shaming. Kudos to them and anyone else who has the determination and discipline to do what it takes to slim down and get healthy.
Posted by: kallisto at June 16, 2023 05:47 PM

I think there is fat-shaming, but not so much at gyms. There are a lot of assholes out there who get a kick out of picking on people.

Several years ago, a 12-year-old girl moved into our area. She was very fat, but she was determined to keep up with her new friends on her bike. Some drivers - not just teenaged boys, but adults - yelled insults and one even threw a waterbottle at her.

Fortunately, normal people outnumber assholes and she ended up losing weight and making a lot of good friends.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at June 16, 2023 06:07 PM (/+bwe)

201 Permanent Plaintiff Face.

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at June 16, 2023 06:07 PM (glGDV)

202 I'm thinking the "seasoned athlete" was on a second tier high school team, or third tier college team. She wasn't close to the best on the team. She never was in control of her diet. Despite her youth and exercise regimen, she was always heavier than most. As soon as her athletic career ended, she stopped exercising with any regularity. She thinks having a coach again will fix that.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 16, 2023 06:07 PM (KRe1G)

203 Are you fat because you overeat or do you overeat because you're fat?
Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at June 16, 2023 06:05 PM (VdGjU)
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I don't know but those 1,000 lb sisters on TV sure don't stop.

Posted by: wth at June 16, 2023 06:07 PM (v0R5T)

204 WHOA WHOA WHOA THERE NELLIE

I though the off label use of medications was totally verboten. Irresponsible. Evil. Corrupt.

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 16, 2023 06:07 PM (d68ec)

205 I am now dumb enough to think I could play Baccarat.

In a casino, the dealers (neé croupiers) won't let you make a mistake.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 16, 2023 06:08 PM (a3Q+t)

206 >>My right leg is shorter, and walking long distances spazzed my back. Any suggestions?


Sidehill.

Posted by: garrett at June 16, 2023 06:08 PM (/wJlv)

207 I did a book report on a Mack Bolan book in 10th grade. Private Christian school. Teacher took my book and sent a letter to my parents about policing my reading material.

Posted by: Fool Otto at June 16, 2023 06:08 PM (DB16e)

208 Also, I'm surprised this isn't a race issue. A good 75% if not more, of my black patients are obese.

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 16, 2023 06:08 PM (d68ec)

209 The "Marvel Method" ain't some yuppie fat loss drug, it's called Tren and it's not available by a prescription.

Posted by: Max Power at June 16, 2023 06:09 PM (q177U)

210 I bet it is coming in nice on his palms.
Posted by: garrett at June 16, 2023 06:06 PM (/wJlv)
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You know Len?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 16, 2023 06:09 PM (RIvkX)

211 149 BC, you ever see Fatso movie with Dom DeLuise?
Posted by: Eromero at June 16, 2023 05:56 PM (Uv0D2).....
No.
Should I?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at June 16, 2023 05:57
Well, I'm a hard case when it comes to other people's 'feewings'. Deal with facts mostly. But I saw that movie, what a fat person goes through, and it almost made me cry. Silly huh?

Posted by: Eromero at June 16, 2023 06:09 PM (Uv0D2)

212 Health nuts are going to feel stupid someday, lying in hospitals dying of nothing.

Redd Foxx

Posted by: moviegique at June 16, 2023 06:09 PM (lpWi1)

213 202 I'm thinking the "seasoned athlete" was on a second tier high school team, or third tier college team.
Posted by: bonhomme at June 16, 2023 06:07 PM (KRe1G)

Seasoned Athlete? So, she sprinkled some Lowry's Seasoned Salts over herself after lifting 3 lbs?

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 16, 2023 06:09 PM (oHd/0)

214 could you do stationary workouts like rowing machines?

I really used to enjoy working out on the rowing machine. But over time it seemed like gyms started getting rid of that piece. Then a gym popped up that was rowing machines and bikes only but it was too far from my house.

Posted by: kallisto at June 16, 2023 06:09 PM (iTnyt)

215 My goal is 205 -225. At OCS I weighed in at 207 and 7% body fat at 5'11"- I think 225 will be alright 35 years later.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at June 16, 2023 06:09 PM (kbeGA)

216 I think there is fat-shaming

On net, I'm not sure it's a bad thing. People respond to societal cues and peer pressure. It's kind of like how we had this big anti-bullying movement, because everyone agreed bullying was terrible, and then coincidentally the weirdoes came out of the woodwork.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at June 16, 2023 06:09 PM (ppBhU)

217 No worries! I am familiar with the funeral trade - they make 'double wides' in a number of sizes - the largest can fit 12 pallbearers.
Posted by: Tonypete at June 16, 2023 06:06 PM (JOV35)
.......

Then you've got to buy an extra plot at the graveyard, like purchasing two airplane seats.

Posted by: wth at June 16, 2023 06:10 PM (v0R5T)

218 >> I did a book report on a Mack Bolan book in 10th grade. Private Christian school. Teacher took my book and sent a letter to my parents about policing my reading material.


Awesome. Loved mac Bolan when i was a kid.

Posted by: garrett at June 16, 2023 06:10 PM (/wJlv)

219 There was an accident in Manitoba today with a semi hitting a bus full of seniors--25 dead.

Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at June 16, 2023 06:10 PM (VdGjU)

220 I know I’m late here, but has anyone considered that she may be a competitive eater?

Posted by: Joe, living dangerously at June 16, 2023 06:10 PM (fKIdX)

221 196 This is true, but I am determined to fit inside the casket.
Posted by: wth

No worries! I am familiar with the funeral trade - they make 'double wides' in a number of sizes - the largest can fit 12 pallbearers.
Posted by: Tonypete at June 16, 2023 06:06 PM (JOV35)
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Then they'd have to shoehorn that thing to get it down into the grave.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 16, 2023 06:10 PM (ssESX)

222 208 Also, I'm surprised this isn't a race issue. A good 75% if not more, of my black patients are obese.
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 16, 2023 06:08 PM (d68ec)

SHHHHH!!!! Like crime, we are not supposed to talk about that...

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 16, 2023 06:10 PM (oHd/0)

223 On weight...

With the new immunotherapies for cancer, normally they will cause folks to gain weight (since you usually also need steroids, and starving oneself while killing all your cells is a really bad idea). And if you're a certain type of blood cancer patient, you are not even allowed to attempt to lose treatment weight gain (with some treatments being forever) until 6 months post treatment.

So, some people will be heavy, and not their fault. I told my spouse when I start treatment, I'll be one of the only cancer types who doesn't waste away...which I guess is a good thing...sorta...

So, knowing I'll probably be in a glass house eventually, I try to help folks on this issue...

Posted by: Nova Local at June 16, 2023 06:11 PM (exHjb)

224 A tongue coated with nicotine is gonna block the taste receptor feedback mechanism. It simply doesn't taste so good and you eat less.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 16, 2023 06:05 PM (enJYY)

And I'm calling bullshit on your whole premise.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at June 16, 2023 06:11 PM (BdMk6)

225 >>-25 dead.


What is that in Farenheit?

Posted by: garrett at June 16, 2023 06:11 PM (/wJlv)

226 Whoa, Garret is real?

Posted by: moviegique at June 16, 2023 06:11 PM (lpWi1)

227 The insulin response system of type II diabetics is broken because that diabetic broke it by eating a diet of fast carbs and sugar. Stop eating that garbage, and the insulin response system repairs itself, and starts working normally. Morbidly obese people are that way for the same reason, a diet of sugar and fast carbs. Going keto works wonders to make your pants fall off.

I hope Ancel fucking Keyes is roasting in hell, that fucker killed more people than anyone else in history with his war on fat.

Posted by: Unknownsailor at June 16, 2023 06:11 PM (26+9w)

228 I though the off label use of medications was totally verboten. Irresponsible. Evil. Corrupt.
Posted by: nurse ratched

Which Comedy Club will you be at next week?

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 16, 2023 06:12 PM (P59V4)

229 220 I know I’m late here, but has anyone considered that she may be a competitive eater?
Posted by: Joe, living dangerously at June 16, 2023 06:10 PM (fKIdX)

If you take a look at the legit competitive eaters none of them - not a single one - look like this land whale. In fact a great many are average to fit in size.

Posted by: Competitive eaters generally aren't enormously fat slobs at June 16, 2023 06:12 PM (fE1zA)

230 Exercise doesn't seem to do it. I've gone through two several month long series of PT the past ten years for that leg and back, and each time noticed a weight loss of less than ten pounds total. My GP had read that same report and had no suggestions either. I suppose being now the same age as those ladies doesn't help.

Posted by: Lirio100 at June 16, 2023 06:13 PM (w/VHS)

231 If you take a look at the legit competitive eaters none of them - not a single one - look like this land whale. In fact a great many are average to fit in size.
Posted by: Competitive eaters generally aren't enormously fat slobs at June 16, 2023 06:12 PM (fE1zA)

Competitive eaters tend to have a genetic metabolic advantage.

Posted by: Nova Local at June 16, 2023 06:14 PM (exHjb)

232 re: "I want you to give me something new, so I don't get bored."

I tend to lean fairly populist, but I have to wonder about some of this reluctance to defer to expertise...Why is this "seasoned athlete" even consulting a trainer if she's so clearly doesn't want to hear what that person has to tell her?

My wife likes to watch disaster reality TV (it's her guilty pleasure). There's a show she likes called "My 600lb Life" where "Dr. Now" has developed a program to help a certain class of morbidly obese people (> 600lb). Before jumping straight to surgery, though, he guides them through the process of learning to make different lifestyle choices. Bear in mind these people sought this particular doctor out, and he tells everyone the same basic things, but 9 times out of 10, it seems, they decide his advice isn't right for their particular circumstances, ("he doesn't know what's right for me") so they decide to ditch his advice and go their own way...and that ends about how one would expect.

Posted by: Simple Stevo at June 16, 2023 06:14 PM (375Ns)

233 208 nurse ratched

I have a friend who is a doctor for federal Indian health thingy. He says most of his patients are diabetic because of obesity. That and methamphetamine.

Posted by: Blutarski at June 16, 2023 06:14 PM (5EtkS)

234 Whoa, Garret is real?
Posted by: moviegique at June 16, 2023 06:11 PM (lpWi1)

===
And he is Fabulous!

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 16, 2023 06:14 PM (RIvkX)

235 Health nuts are going to feel stupid someday, lying in hospitals dying of nothing.

Redd Foxx
Posted by: moviegique at June 16, 2023 06:09 PM (lpWi1)

Truth.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at June 16, 2023 06:14 PM (BdMk6)

236 Then they'd have to shoehorn that thing to get it down into the grave.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 16, 2023 06:10 PM (ssESX)

Hey Charlie, we're gonna need the 48 inch bucket on the backhoe today!

Posted by: Spuds Gravedigging, Inc. at June 16, 2023 06:15 PM (v0R5T)

237 I do think that more smoking did reduce weight in the past, it does tend to kill your appetite somewhat. And with kids, I mean, I grew up running around the woods, climbing trees, digging in the dirt, playing baseball with a stick and tennis ball, etc etc. You burn off a lot of calories doing that as opposed to video games and staring at your phone all day.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 16, 2023 06:16 PM (0hOvj)

238
My right leg is shorter, and walking long distances spazzed my back. Any suggestions?

Walk on the side of a hill.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 16, 2023 06:16 PM (63Dwl)

239 *whispers* Doctors don't waste their time with patients who do not comply with treatment.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 16, 2023 06:16 PM (RIvkX)

240 Good evening, horde! Late to the GAINZZ thread, as always.

*trots back to the top to read the content

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 16, 2023 06:17 PM (OX9vb)

241 My right leg is shorter, and walking long distances spazzed my back. Any suggestions?

Walk on the side of a hill.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 16, 2023 06:16 PM (63Dwl)
........

what about coming back?

Posted by: wth at June 16, 2023 06:17 PM (v0R5T)

242 Competitive eaters tend to have a genetic metabolic advantage.
Posted by: Nova Local at June 16, 2023 06:14 PM (exHjb)

Typically they are very careful about what they eat between competitions and exercise regularly.

Posted by: It can't possibly have anything to do with discipline and self-mastery at June 16, 2023 06:18 PM (fE1zA)

243 Pixy Misa is also "real"

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 16, 2023 06:18 PM (RIvkX)

244 what about coming back?
Posted by: wth at June 16, 2023 06:17 PM (v0R5T)

Walk backwards!

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 16, 2023 06:18 PM (PiwSw)

245
Competitive eaters tend to have a genetic metabolic advantage.
Posted by: Nova Local

I wasn't a competitive eater; but, I definitely had a great metabolic advantage, if you want to call it that, until I turned 35...

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 16, 2023 06:18 PM (P59V4)

246 Walk on the side of a hill.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 16, 2023 06:16 PM (63Dwl)
........

what about coming back?
Posted by: wth

Turn around and lean into it.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 16, 2023 06:18 PM (JOV35)

247 > I dieted myself into cardiac irregularities. A Mayo clinic report came out a couple of years ago--turns out they found only walking actually works for those who are post menopausal. My right leg is shorter, and walking long distances spazzed my back. Any suggestions?

You need to see a professional. There's more to this story. I'm guessing you "diet" was too few nutrients and spurts of far too few calories. No matter what your health is, you should be able to get enough nutrients with a small caloric deficit.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 16, 2023 06:19 PM (KRe1G)

248
And I'm calling bullshit on your whole premise.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at June 16, 2023 06:11 PM

Go down to your local vape store and buy a bottle of nicotine 'juice'. Squirt a drop on your tongue. Whatever you do, don't get any in your eyes. It burns like a summa bitch.

Then with the taste still in your mouth tell me that food tastes good with your tongue numbed out so horribly.

The expression 'blow smoke up one's ass' actually came from a Brit medical treatment for drowning victims. Some miraculously revived from the excruciating pain. Pain from nicotine and simultaneous pleasure from food? Explain.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 16, 2023 06:19 PM (enJYY)

249 "I want you to give me something new, so I don't get bored."

the past decade or so I've gone back to the gym in fits and starts, and noticed that the fitness industry comes up with a new gimmick every couple years. Like one year it was those soft round things you balance yourself on, then it was kettlebells, then it was those resistance bands. Last time there were these little items that I don't even know what they're called but they seem to be used for resistance and balance.

so it's pretty easy to find something new

Posted by: kallisto at June 16, 2023 06:19 PM (iTnyt)

250 I always joke with my wife about trying the Ted Bundy Diet. He lost a ton of weight in a week or so while on the lam in CO due to exposure and near-hypothermia. You apparently burn a metric shitton of calories trying not to die under these conditions. The whole trying not to die thing is a bit of downside, admittedly.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at June 16, 2023 06:19 PM (ppBhU)

251
Her most beneficial exercise would be the 2 armed push away from the table.

Posted by: irongrampa at June 16, 2023 06:19 PM (KATBx)

252 "Walk on the side of a hill.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 16, 2023 06:16 PM (63Dwl)
........

what about coming back?
Posted by: wth at June 16, 2023 06:17 PM (v0R5T)"

other side of the hill, obvs.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at June 16, 2023 06:20 PM (ou9hh)

253 I lost a hundred pounds doing keto

The great thing is unlike the Atkins years you can now make a keto version of almost anything, BUT some companies capitalizing on this are making products that are billed as keto friendly but are not

Choc Zero is one example and yet it inexplicitly spikes my blood sugar worse than PASTA, which is why it’s critical to test your ketones when you’re trying out a new keto “food”

Posted by: The Unmasked and Unvaxxed Ranger at June 16, 2023 06:20 PM (VTu1l)

254 My right leg is shorter, and walking long distances spazzed my back. Any suggestions?

A taller shoe. Not joking!

Posted by: t-bird at June 16, 2023 06:20 PM (ptElO)

255
what about coming back?
Posted by: wth

Walk all the way around the hill!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 16, 2023 06:20 PM (P59V4)

256 136 Looking at that photo, I'd thought all pro nosetackle Vince Wilfolk retired.
Posted by: Regular joe at June 16, 2023 05:54 PM (nnp+f)

He lost a ton of weight and looks normal now.

Posted by: clutch at June 16, 2023 06:20 PM (9UmRs)

257 20 There's being overweight, and there's having your own gravity well. I would suspect that Beth has smaller athletes orbiting her in tidal lock.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 16, 2023 05:27 PM (aD39U)
----
I think you may be right.

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Posted by: Ciampino --- Partial mobilization is when you are drafted in whole, and returned back in parts at June 16, 2023 06:21 PM (qfLjt)

258 Most folks end up looking like their parents in form and fitness.

Big chicken wing eatin, greasy mama jama gonna look like her mama who was most likely a big chicken wing eatin greasy mama jama.

There are exceptions but few and far between.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 16, 2023 06:21 PM (R/m4+)

259 Food, and eating, is one of Gods good gifts… but we can make an idol of anything…

Posted by: tubal at June 16, 2023 06:21 PM (PCK5/)

260 I'm going to argue against the focus on "losing weight" or achieving a specific weight or percent body fat.

Those are proxies that anyone can measure with a tape and scale - but they are still proxies.

From what I understand, VO₂ Max is a greater measure than any other in terms of heart health - which is really what we are after. So instead of designing a program to "burn fat" or some other arbitrary goal, it would be better to get insulin resistance where it should be, to get enough of the right kind of exercise to boost VO₂ which is going to require for many at least a pattern of vigorous walking.

The weight and other vanity proxies will follow.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at June 16, 2023 06:21 PM (b2dH9)

261 I've been as low as 5% in my life... most of my military years was between 8% and 10%... which is my goal.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 16, 2023 06:01 PM
Me too. Right now I'm about 14% probably because of this gut. I remember when I was a kid in the Navy my navel was maybe 3/8" deep, now it's 3/4". Problem is I eat what I want like porkchop and steak fat. But not often lot of fried stuff.

Posted by: Eromero at June 16, 2023 06:22 PM (Uv0D2)

262 Could shoes be made to compensate different leg lengths?

Posted by: Skip at June 16, 2023 06:22 PM (xhxe8)

263
I'm not advocating anyone get addicted to nicotine to lose weight. Only trying to explain how it works. Smokers were always the thinnest people. For a reason.

They quit and gained a shitload of weight. Because food tasted good again.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 16, 2023 06:23 PM (enJYY)

264 *Takes notes*

Ok, so I put vape juice on my tongue, blow smoke up my ass, and walk around a hill?

Is this some new fad?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 16, 2023 06:23 PM (u73oe)

265 Her most beneficial exercise would be the 2 armed push away from the table.

A second lap beats a second helping every time.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at June 16, 2023 06:23 PM (b2dH9)

266 I noticed the fat acceptance movement is only about accepting obese women

Posted by: The Unmasked and Unvaxxed Ranger at June 16, 2023 06:24 PM (VTu1l)

267 Go down to your local vape store and buy a bottle of nicotine 'juice'. Squirt a drop on your tongue. Whatever you do, don't get any in your eyes. It burns like a summa bitch.

Then with the taste still in your mouth tell me that food tastes good with your tongue numbed out so horribly.

The expression 'blow smoke up one's ass' actually came from a Brit medical treatment for drowning victims. Some miraculously revived from the excruciating pain. Pain from nicotine and simultaneous pleasure from food? Explain.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 16, 2023 06:19 PM (enJYY)

All I know is that I am a smoker and my tastebuds are as active as they've always been. And I'm just a bit older than 29.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at June 16, 2023 06:24 PM (BdMk6)

268 It really is amazing. Looking at childhood photos from the 70's-80's nobody is fat. Being chubby was rare (everyone was poor) and fat was something that really stood out.
Posted by: Jay in PA at June 16, 2023 06:02 PM

In the '90s, there came this thing called Low-fat/High-carb Diet. I was taking a medication with a side-effect that I'd gain weight, so I went to a dietician. She all but called me a liar to my face when I showed her my food & exercise journal as I started gaining weight on the 1200-calorie plan.

Some of my co-workers were participating in the Weight Watchers at Work program, which reduced fat grams but increased fiber, including breads. A couple had similar problems because they gained weight if they followed the program.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at June 16, 2023 06:24 PM (/+bwe)

269 "My right leg is shorter, and walking long distances spazzed my back. Any suggestions?'

I really like my deskcycle. Gentle, low/no impact exercise, with variable resistance settings, and you can do it while sitting down and doing something else like working on the computer.

It keeps my legs from getting stiff and achy from sitting at my desk all day.

The only downside is that you can work the joints in a chair apart from the cycling motion. And the potential creaking of your chair might tend to annoy everyone around you.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at June 16, 2023 06:24 PM (ou9hh)

270 Could shoes be made to compensate different leg lengths?

Look up: HealthyFeetStore

Posted by: Reuben Hick at June 16, 2023 06:24 PM (b2dH9)

271 Big chicken wing eatin, greasy mama jama gonna look like her mama who was most likely a big chicken wing eatin greasy mama jama.

Sure, that's what you wanna do: check out mom and see what she's like. If she's in good shape and hot, that's what your sweet baboo will be like at her age, most likely. If her dad is protective and suspicious of you, she probably was raised well too.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 16, 2023 06:25 PM (0hOvj)

272 I always thought "big boned" was a sort of euphemism to down-play largeness. There's a weight-loss ad that pops up here from time to time, though, that apparently even cures big-bonedness. The "after" picture shows a lady with half the shoulder breadth of the "before" shot. It's kind of amazing. It even straightens her hair in the process.

Posted by: Simple Stevo at June 16, 2023 06:25 PM (375Ns)

273 "Ok, so I put vape juice on my tongue, blow smoke up my ass, and walk around a hill?

Is this some new fad?"

not yet, but I bet you could make a lot of money if you well it to the right people.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at June 16, 2023 06:26 PM (ou9hh)

274 Lirio100, walking in a pool is low impact high resistance.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 16, 2023 06:26 PM (c+iN0)

275 The solution is Covid. I lost fifty pounds and slept like a baby. Kept off the weight too.

easy peasy as long as you don't lose your will to live.

That's where spite comes in as a great motivator.

Posted by: Regular joe at June 16, 2023 06:26 PM (nnp+f)

276 Protip… Never ever ever call a female a “ big girl” to her face, or in her hearing…

Posted by: tubal at June 16, 2023 06:27 PM (PCK5/)

277 126 BOOKS:

Based on ace's enthusiam for the series, I bought a collection of Ian Fleming's Bond books. I'm a little over halfway through the first (Casino Royale). Fleming is a pretty good stylist and it's interesting. I am now dumb enough to think I could play Baccarat.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at June 16, 2023 05:50 PM (ppBhU)

Um, your asymmetrical balls are not going to enjoy the last part of the book.

Posted by: Splunge at June 16, 2023 06:27 PM (vbRVv)

278 Speaking of gains:

Refering to Eroxon -

Dr. Amy Pearlman (MD), a board-certified urologist at Prime Institute in Fort Lauderdale, Florida, says this is an exciting development for those who are looking for more options.

“I’m pumped… When it comes to erectile dysfunction therapies, we have a lot of them.. . ..

“I think most patients in my practice want to see a doctor first to identify if there’s a cause of the problem. Because one of the key things about erectile dysfunction is you really want to get down to the root of the problem and not just kind of put a Band-Aid on it with the medicine.”

*just got a chuckle out this particular write up.*

Posted by: Tonypete at June 16, 2023 06:28 PM (JOV35)

279 It really is amazing. Looking at childhood photos from the 70's-80's nobody is fat. Being chubby was rare (everyone was poor) and fat was something that really stood out.

*************

Plus teenage boys then looked tanned, healthy and strong

Today: pasty white sickly soy soaked simps

Posted by: The Unmasked and Unvaxxed Ranger at June 16, 2023 06:28 PM (VTu1l)

280 I always thought "big boned" was a sort of euphemism to down-play largeness.

It can be, but there are different builds of people and some women are really built big and stocky. That's how they are made, like that big brute guy who has shoulders so wide he has to go through doors sideways. Just like tall girls, they need love, too.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 16, 2023 06:28 PM (0hOvj)

281 Nood.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 16, 2023 06:29 PM (P59V4)

282 I don't think big gym lady would do too well in the Chinese Womens Army marching brigade.

Posted by: wth at June 16, 2023 06:29 PM (v0R5T)

283 Sure, that's what you wanna do: check out mom and see what she's like. If she's in good shape and hot, that's what your sweet baboo will be like at her age, most likely. If her dad is protective and suspicious of you, she probably was raised well too.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 16, 2023 06:25 PM (0hOvj)

Yup….dated a girl as a Ute once, very nice girl and all but then met her parents.

Mom was mo fugly and dad was a few bricks shy of a load.

I had to do what I had to do.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 16, 2023 06:30 PM (R/m4+)

284 "It can be, but there are different builds of people and some women are really built big and stocky."

Yep, you get some women that are built like whippets, and some that are built like bulldogs, and some that are built like any other dog breed you might want to compare them to.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at June 16, 2023 06:30 PM (ou9hh)

285 Go down to your local vape store and buy a bottle of nicotine 'juice'. Squirt a drop on your tongue. Whatever you do, don't get any in your eyes. It burns like a summa bitch.

Posted by: Divide by Zero


There may be some truth in this, but you can not discount the effect of the nicotine on the body and appetite (separate from the taste.)
Also, all the smokers I used to know would skip dessert and snacks and go straight to the puff puff puff. Often outside in the cold (another weight loss problem is our climate controlled life.)

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at June 16, 2023 06:30 PM (BTsKw)

286
All I know is that I am a smoker and my tastebuds are as active as they've always been. And I'm just a bit older than 29.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at June 16, 2023 06:24 PM

I vape now with a horrible tasting nicotine flavor and I have no trouble pushing the plate away from the table. Pinch an inch? Can't. Love handles? None. 5'11" 179# male.

Once again, not a great weight loss idea to replace one bad habit with another. Just trying to explain why it works the way it does. For me, anyway.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 16, 2023 06:30 PM (enJYY)

287 248 The expression 'blow smoke up one's ass' actually came from a Brit medical treatment for drowning victims. Some miraculously revived from the excruciating pain. Pain from nicotine and simultaneous pleasure from food? Explain.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 16, 2023 06:19 PM (enJYY)

Reminds me of one of my favorite lines from The Simpsons. Bart gets caught shoplifting, and is trying to BS the security guy, who says "if I wanted smoke blown up my ass, I'd be at home with a cigarette and a short length of hose."

Posted by: Splunge at June 16, 2023 06:32 PM (vbRVv)

288 So, not 'fatphobic', which is another made up word that the leftoids like to use. I know why I'm fat. Lazy with bad eating habits. Although according to the military's standards I'm NOT fat. 198lbs, 73.5". But if I dropped 10lbs, that would be good. 15 would be better and 20 would be awesome. Hard part is having a desk job as opposed to the more active jobs I had earlier in my career.

Posted by: Stacy0311 at June 16, 2023 06:32 PM (DtPtM)

289 Ozempic helps some with hunger, and some with sugar control. It isn't a miracle drug, it just makes it easier to eat less (especially into calorie / energy deficit).

The thing is, I know people taking it who act like it is a get out of jail free card. I don't think it will make a long-lasting difference for them. People using it to 'fix' their eating (particularly if they have anxiety when they get hungry), and really make better food choices (making this more like a cast on a broken limb: a temporary support while healing) are much more likely to succeed long term. I wish there was more real mental help to go along with the drug exuberance.

Posted by: Legion of Boom at June 16, 2023 06:33 PM (BsoVM)

290 That fitness article has to be lying by omission. In 2016, that woman certainly was NOWHERE in the shape she is now in the photographs. You don't do 80 miles on a bike in a day regularly and look like that unless your diet is complete shambles.

Posted by: Gaff at June 16, 2023 06:34 PM (59Hbh)

291 For instance a Waffle House 8. Or a Dollar Store 7.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at June 16, 2023 05:54 PM (IAwid)

Spouse and I like to say we're Ohio skinny.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 16, 2023 06:39 PM (OX9vb)

292 The Mack Bolan books are decent until he kills enough Mafia and goes to work for the govt. That would be the first 37 books.

Posted by: comradearthur at June 16, 2023 07:00 PM (sHuIA)

293 Is there still room in the comments, it seems a little tight.

Posted by: Jabba at June 16, 2023 07:04 PM (SUc4N)

294 281 Nood.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 16, 2023 06:29 PM (P59V4)
****
https://youtu.be/54oqYyy_r_Q

Posted by: NickleMike at June 16, 2023 07:13 PM (Gynjt)

295 I have, as does my daughter, a genetic marker for obesity that the obesity clinic gets the kids and families to take, to broaden research into this.

Some will say that you just need willpower and intellect to get yourself out of obesity, calories in, calories out etc. That is unfortunately not reality. It’s more bullshit.

So, you have to try more advanced measures if you are truly “obese” or have eating disorders etc. That’s what the drugs and surgeries are for, rightly so.

Count yourself lucky if all you have to do is get a meal plan and do light exercising to lose weight. That’s not what we’re talking about re a large swath of obese people.

Posted by: Mitchellese at June 16, 2023 07:15 PM (3Cm3c)

296 Fore years and years athletes have been using insulin injections as a form of untraceable steroids. Many MMA fighters did it, because regulating your blood sugar is a quick way to really boost your testosterone without looking like there's anything fishy going on, you ferry caught you just go "oh no i should see if i have diabetes"

These drug companies saw this and are now just finding creative ways (1,000s of planned stories and celebrity endorsements) of advertising off label use of their products, which i think would be illegal if they were caught.

Posted by: Rbastid at June 16, 2023 07:26 PM (u0nWQ)

297 Gatorade, Peloton, these fitness commercials always feature fat, black women doing impossible yoga positions.

Posted by: Fedup at June 16, 2023 07:33 PM (uZn/X)

298 Diabetic here just started on Semaglutide - blood sugars improved slightly, dropped about 20% on average. Some weight loss, definitely suppressed appetite and I get the shits every few days.

It makes it easier to not eat, meals are smaller sometimes. I can feel starting to get into a situation where you eat less, so you make it count. Say you have a sandwich, rather than a lot of bread, less bread and more flavourful fillings. Same approach across different meals.

TBH, I'm a bad diabetic at times, I've done Keto and lost the initial weight, even when doing gym, but thats where it ends. It sucks just eating keto without the weight loss. Brother lost about 40lbs on Keto, sticks to it and looks great.

I think if I went back to gym and did keto, on these tablets I would lose it quick. I plan on getting back to that this summer.

Posted by: Political McGuffin at June 16, 2023 07:54 PM (C31z5)

299 The photo of the lady at the gym brings to my mind that old expression "lipstick on a pig".

Since 1/6/23, I've taken my weight down from 233 (obese according to the BMI Nazis) to 203 on 4/2/23 (merely overweight) and gotten off my hypertension and hyperlipidemia meds which was the main goal.

The doc says my blood fats are healthier now after getting off the meds and losing weight than they were.

How? Fasting every other day and eating Atkins-style on the other days. And weighing myself daily to keep on track. And giving up wine for Lent.

Today, I weighed in at 202. I'd like to get another 10-15 pounds off, but it's been nice to take a break. Giving up my reds was the hardest part.

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