THE FBI ASKED TWITTER TO BAN THE ACCOUNTS OF AMERICAN AND CANADIAN JOURNALISTS WHO CRITICIZE UKRAINE -- AT THE BEHEST OF UKRAINE'S MAIN INTELLIGENCE SERVICE

THE FBI ASKED TWITTER TO BAN THE ACCOUNTS OF AMERICAN AND CANADIAN JOURNALISTS WHO CRITICIZE UKRAINE -- AT THE BEHEST OF UKRAINE'S MAIN INTELLIGENCE SERVICE

The Federal Bureau of Investigation has aided a Ukrainian intelligence effort to censor social media users and obtain their personal information, leaked emails reveal.

The FBI is doxing American citizens and giving their information over to a foreign power.

What do you call it when you sell out your own country to aid a foreign country?

Maybe those sterling-silver patriots at the FBI can remind me.

In March 2022, an FBI Special Agent sent Twitter a list of accounts on behalf of the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU), Ukraine's main intelligence agency. The accounts, the FBI wrote, "are suspected by the SBU in spreading fear and disinformation." In an attached memo, the SBU asked Twitter to remove the accounts and hand over their user data.
The Ukrainian government's FBI-enabled targets extend to members of the media.
The SBU list that the FBI provided to Twitter included my name and Twitter profile. In its response to the FBI, Twitter agreed to review the accounts for "inauthenticity" but raised concerns about the inclusion of me and other "American and Canadian journalists."
The FBI's attempt to ban Twitter accounts at the request of Ukrainian intelligence is among the most overt requests for censorship revealed to date in the Twitter Files, a cache of leaked communications from the social media giant.
The FBI's censorship request was relayed in a March 27th, 2022 email from FBI Special Agent Aleksandr Kobzanets, the Assistant Legal Attaché at the US Embassy in Kyiv, to two Twitter executives. Four FBI colleagues were copied on the exchange.
"Thank you very much for your time to discuss the assistance to Ukraine," Kobzanets wrote. "I am including a list of accounts I received over a couple of weeks from the Security Service of Ukraine. These accounts are suspected by the SBU in spreading fear and disinformation. For your review and consideration."
List of targeted accounts provided to Twitter by the FBI on behalf of Ukraine's SBU.
The listed Twitter profiles, the SBU alleged, have been "used to disseminate disinformation and fake news to inaccurately reflect events in Ukraine, justify war crimes of the Russian authorities on the territory of the Ukrainian state in violation of international law."
In order "to stop Russian aggression on the information front," the SBU continued, "we kindly ask you to take urgent measures to block these Twitter accounts and provide us with user data specified during registration."
The SBU expressed its "gratitude for the existing level of interaction."
In a memo forwarded by the FBI, Ukraine's SBU asks Twitter to "block" the listed Twitter accounts "and provide us with user data specified during registration."
If granted, the users on the list would not only have been banned from Twitter but had their phone number, date of birth, and email address disclosed to both the FBI and SBU.

Twitter's former head of "brand safety" or whatever, Yoel Roth, actually resisted the FBI's demands. He pointed out that the FBI was asking about bona-fide American journalists. He agreed that he would examine the list for "inauthenticity" -- that is, check if they're bot accounts or cases of many accounts managed by a single propaganda-manager -- and would only consider blocking real journalists if it could be proven that they were acting at the behest of a foreign government.

In his reply, Kobzanets did not directly acknowledge Roth's concerns about Ukraine's FBI-abetted effort to censor journalists. "Understood," Kobzanets told Roth. "Whatever your review determines and action Twitter deem[s] is appropriate." He also indicated that the FBI would not meet Roth's request for any "context" that might establish ties between journalists and a foreign government: "Unlikely there will be any additional information or context."
...
The FBI's National Press Office also declined to answer questions. Among several queries, I invoked Twitter's warning that the FBI's "assistance to Ukraine" entailed censoring journalists, and asked if that has prompted any changes to the bureau's collaboration with Ukrainian intelligence.
"While we appreciate your inquiry, as a matter of practice we do not confirm, deny, or otherwise comment on specific interactions nor confirm the veracity of correspondence," an FBI spokesperson wrote.

Guess who was copied on these emails? Elvis Chan, the agent in the San Francisco office who was the pointman for demanding censorship of accounts that disputed the US's official narrative on covid, transgenderism, Ukraine, Hunter Biden's laptop, and all other matters.

I'm not willing to turn over my rights to the Ukraine intelligence services. And if this is what they're asking, then I'd like to ask Russia to bomb them out of existence.

BTW, I have known Ukrainians who fled the then-Soviet Union, of which Ukraine was an occupied province. They were rock-ribbed anti-communists and Reaganites. One guy I remember introducing me to Full-On Right Wing Extremism -- just kidding, I mean he liked Reagan and Rush Limbaugh -- when I was still a stupid, soft-headed liberal.

I do not wish Ukrainians ill. But I simply will not put the interests of Ukraine over the interests of America. We are not going to turn America into Russia to save Ukraine from Russia.

But that's what we're doing.

We need to start using the criminal law to make sure that our "civil servants" understand that the country they serve is America, not Ukraine.

We are being ruled by a Ruling Class of outright traitors (and thieves; don't forget the bribes).

This cannot be allowed to go on.

Posted by: Ace at 03:14 PM

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1 Doesn't matter.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at June 08, 2023 03:14 PM (N1DT3)

2 The constitution is dead letter now. They will be told "don't do that" and then continue doing it anyway.

No consequences.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at June 08, 2023 03:14 PM (N1DT3)

3 Red letter day.

Zelensky is no more "Ukrainian" than his pals occupying DC are American. They don't have dual loyalty: to this country, or any other. They are godless parasites interested only in their sick cabal.

Posted by: trev006 at June 08, 2023 03:15 PM (ZyRtd)

4 "Was I no supposed to do that?"

Posted by: George Costanza of the FBI at June 08, 2023 03:15 PM (N1DT3)

5 PC was the camel's nose.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson Work Laptop at June 08, 2023 03:16 PM (zZu0s)

6 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 08, 2023 03:16 PM (Zz0t1)

7 The conservative case for selling your soul to The Devil himself.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 08, 2023 03:16 PM (Zz0t1)

8 "BTW, I have known Ukrainians who fled the then-Soviet Union, of which Ukraine was an occupied province"

Well, Vindman, Masha Potato, and the rest of their ilk are toads working for foreign oligarchs. I don't think it was a good deal at all.

Posted by: trev006 at June 08, 2023 03:17 PM (ZyRtd)

9 It's not like it's government *censorship* censorship......

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 08, 2023 03:17 PM (ncXxy)

10 The FBI's censorship request was relayed in a March 27th, 2022 email from FBI Special Agent Aleksandr Kobzanets
....

OH, I'm SURE he has no divided loyalty issues...

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at June 08, 2023 03:17 PM (N1DT3)

11 >And we need to start using the criminal law to make sure that our "civil servants" understand that the country they serve is America, not Ukraine.

Well, you're going to need a strong, single-minded legislature and real Presidential leadership to get that done.

Have a nice day.

Posted by: DB - at June 08, 2023 03:18 PM (geLO8)

12 Rootin For Putin!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 08, 2023 03:18 PM (dQWfI)

13 "THE FBI ASKED TWITTER TO BAN THE ACCOUNTS OF AMERICAN AND CANADIAN JOURNALISTS WHO CRITICIZE UKRAINE -- AT THE BEHEST OF UKRAINE'S MAIN INTELLIGENCE SERVICE"

Posted by: It was sent to Delaware for further investigation. at June 08, 2023 03:18 PM (iayUP)

14 Elvis Chan, the agent in the San Francisco office
______

At least his parents had a sense of humor.

Elvis has left the FBI building.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at June 08, 2023 03:18 PM (lf83v)

15 Jury Nullification is the way.

ANY case involving the FBI in any way. Refuse to convict.
They are in the business of selling Credibility.

Put them out of business.

Posted by: garrett at June 08, 2023 03:19 PM (1SYO0)

16 'That's how it's done fellows!'

- Zombie Ed Murrow

Posted by: Eromero at June 08, 2023 03:19 PM (z3WCn)

17 The Founders would have veen shooting these motherfuckers in the face a long time ago.

Related . . . Pitch Meeting, The Little Mermaid:

https://youtu.be/hNiCTmwr4sA

Posted by: Sharkman at June 08, 2023 03:19 PM (4ChKX)

18 But Asa Hutchinson says I should shut up and support these three-letter heroes . . .

Posted by: Catherine at June 08, 2023 03:19 PM (ZSsrh)

19 Ikraine, Youkraine, we all kraine for Ukraine!

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 08, 2023 03:19 PM (8mdkL)

20 What do you call it when you sell out your own country to aid a foreign country?

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None dare call it treason.

Posted by: ShainS -- Oppression Scientist and Your AI Interpreter at June 08, 2023 03:19 PM (p6TW6)

21 How SMERSH of them.

Posted by: henry at June 08, 2023 03:19 PM (JMDly)

22 "I do not wish Ukrainians ill. But I simply will not put the interests of Ukraine over the interests of America.

And we need to start using the criminal law to make sure that our "civil servants" understand that the country they serve is America, not Ukraine.

We are being ruled by a Ruling Class of outright traitors (and thieves; don't forget the bribes).

This cannot be allowed to go on."

You know the little furry bastard does really good political commentary.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson Work Laptop at June 08, 2023 03:20 PM (zZu0s)

23 Remember during the WoT the FNM said that they would gleefully report "the news" even if it got Americans killed because that was the right thing to do.

Now if you report the truth in the Uke war, which the US is not even formally a participant in, they'll give your info to Ukrainian death squads.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 08, 2023 03:20 PM (lc5cP)

24 People have been speculating about this with regard to Gonzalo Lira (Coach Red Pill) who was picked up (for the second time) by the SBU around May 1st (IIRC). The State Department has been asked about him publicly and they, more-or-less, just snickered.

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at June 08, 2023 03:20 PM (rEj6D)

25 This cannot be allowed to go on.

STEINER WILL COME

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and David Ogilvy. at June 08, 2023 03:21 PM (hIWPn)

26 >>What do you call it when you sell out your own country to aid a foreign country?

A Biden. A Joe for short.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 08, 2023 03:21 PM (ZLI7S)

27 We are being ruled by a Ruling Class of outright traitors (and thieves; don't forget the bribes).

The greatest danger to Americans and their rights isn't Russia, isn't even China. It is our own politicians and bureaucrats.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 08, 2023 03:21 PM (lc5cP)

28 None dare call it treason.
Posted by: ShainS -- Oppression Scientist and Your AI Interpreter at June 08, 2023 03:19 PM (p6TW6)

People say this so often that it's become a truism, but Tucker Carlson's mammoth popularity is a sign that the dam is breaking.

Ooh, what a topical metaphor!

Posted by: trev006 at June 08, 2023 03:21 PM (ZyRtd)

29 F Zelensky and F Putin. This is a European problem with ancient roots. Let them eff each other. We have no dog in this fight except the embarrassment caused by the Biden's Ukrainian money laundromat.

Posted by: Cosda at June 08, 2023 03:21 PM (IkIG6)

30 "And we need to start using the criminal law to make sure that our "civil servants" understand that the country they serve is America, not Ukraine."

There are no conditions under which they will ever be held responsible under criminal law.

That shortens the 'ways to get justice' list rather radically.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 08, 2023 03:21 PM (/nCD+)

31 This cannot be allowed to go on.
Posted by: Ace at 03:14 PM

You're adorable.

Posted by: Deep State Overlords at June 08, 2023 03:21 PM (Wy1BU)

32 So who's gonna be held accountable ? Bueller .....

Posted by: It's me donna at June 08, 2023 03:21 PM (bs+z0)

33 You know the little furry bastard does really good political commentary.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson Work Laptop at June 08, 2023 03:20 PM (zZu0s)

I love his musk.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 08, 2023 03:21 PM (aD39U)

34 This post needs the Asa Hutchinson tweet admonishing any criticism of the FBI or the CIA, as there are " many good men and women" who work there

Fucking RINO traitors

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 08, 2023 03:21 PM (5EnGD)

35 "This cannot be allowed to go on."

Take a look at Trump vs DeSantis on Ukraine.

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at June 08, 2023 03:22 PM (rEj6D)

36 ... What do you call it when you sell out your own country to aid a foreign country? ...
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Five Eyes?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 08, 2023 03:22 PM (DU+/6)

37 Mike Pence says we're not doing enough for Ukraine.

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at June 08, 2023 03:22 PM (AiZBA)

38 That shortens the 'ways to get justice' list rather radically.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 08, 2023 03:21 PM (/nCD+)

Meh. The Founders worked under hard conditions, too.

Posted by: trev006 at June 08, 2023 03:22 PM (ZyRtd)

39 This is all so depressing. And, hey, check out DM for the new Hunter laptop pic download.

Posted by: Peaches at June 08, 2023 03:22 PM (14URa)

40 But the election was totes on the up and up. Swearsies

Posted by: ... at June 08, 2023 03:22 PM (JONoC)

41 ... If they just got a list and passed it on, I dont see a huge deal here. If they pressed even after being informed Americans were on the list... Bigger issue. If they passed on actual American info... Huge deal. That first scenario might (maybe) be laziness.

Posted by: F2000 at June 08, 2023 03:22 PM (l5Nue)

42 Again, I find shows now that carry on about free speech in the 60s and how horrible it was that they censored comics and put them in jail, but now are rah rah for censorship. It again shows the lie of leftist - they aren't for anything but power.

Posted by: InZona at June 08, 2023 03:22 PM (bfyic)

43
People say this so often that it's become a truism, but Tucker Carlson's mammoth popularity is a sign that the dam is breaking.

Tucker is/ was an outspoken critic of the Ukraine payoff scheme

Posted by: It's me donna at June 08, 2023 03:22 PM (bs+z0)

44 "Thank you very much for your time to discuss the assistance to Ukraine," Kobzanets wrote. "I am including a list of accounts I received over a couple of weeks from the Security Service of Ukraine. These accounts are suspected by the SBU in spreading fear and disinformation. For your review and consideration."
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I love that. "For your review and consideration." As if *anyone* in that chain doesn't know what that actually means.

"Our Ukrainian pals would like to see these guys iced, so go ahead and take care of that for us."

#America

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 08, 2023 03:23 PM (DU+/6)

45 I'm not inclined towards benefit of the doubt, just spitballing.

Posted by: F2000 at June 08, 2023 03:23 PM (l5Nue)

46 2020: Well, I'm just happy to know I can pay enough in taxes to make sure a whole family of illegal aliens never has to work a day in their lives

2023: Well, I'm just happy to know I can pay enough in taxes to make sure a lil Z never has to go a whole day without cocaine and hookers.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 08, 2023 03:23 PM (lc5cP)

47 Ukraine was/is the global left's piggy bank and money laundering facility.

The more I learn the more I'm of the mind that we're spending so much money to defend the Ukes is because if the Russians roll in and find the receipts, as the kids say, that the entire thing unravels and a lot of these so-called elites end up getting the Ceaucescu treatment.

I can't think of any other compelling interest for the United States to pour so much treasure into defending a shithole in Eastern Europe.

Posted by: ballistic at June 08, 2023 03:23 PM (oXNqT)

48 Ace, this is excellent reporting that I haven't seen anywhere else today.

Excellent work, man!

Posted by: Bach in Black at June 08, 2023 03:24 PM (7ubmG)

49 Mike Pence says we're not doing enough for Ukraine.

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at June 08, 2023 03:22 PM (AiZBA)

Mike Pence can grab a weapon and stand a post at the front, if he's so inclined.

Of course, seeing as how a whole bunch of Ukrainians believe they're in an existential battle, it's likely that women who aren't his wife will be there, so, on second though, Mikey, best sit this one out.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 08, 2023 03:24 PM (/nCD+)

50 >> You know the little furry bastard does really good political commentary.

Before I steal from anyone else, I steal from ace.

Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at June 08, 2023 03:24 PM (1SYO0)

51 Sarah Hoyt says if I don't stop borrowing her Shocked Face all the time, she's going to start charging me rent.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at June 08, 2023 03:24 PM (N3zMI)

52 The FBI should be4 eliminated permanently.

Posted by: vic at June 08, 2023 03:24 PM (mMi2k)

53 ...is a sign that the dam is breaking....
Posted by: It's me donna at June 08, 2023 03:22 PM (bs+z0)

Too soon!

Posted by: Vladimir Putin at June 08, 2023 03:24 PM (9UlRk)

54 What do you call it when you sell out your own country to aid a foreign country?
.......

The Biden administration?

Posted by: wth at June 08, 2023 03:24 PM (v0R5T)

55 " Mike Pence says we're not doing enough for Ukraine."
Like most GOP candidates. Haley, Christie, et al.
It's troubling.
Did you know we are paying the pensions for Ukrainian gov. retirees?

Posted by: gourmand du jour at June 08, 2023 03:25 PM (72qIu)

56 But the election was totes on the up and up. Swearsies

Seth Rich was mugged to death
Epstein killed himself
The election was free and fair
Dylan Mulvaney is a woman
If Lil Z doesn't get his daily hit of cocaine Democracy will have died

The lies just keep getting more and more obvious

Posted by: 18-1 at June 08, 2023 03:25 PM (lc5cP)

57 Afternoon.

I'm sorry, every time I see the name Elvis Chan I think of a short teenaged Japanese girl with eye popping cleavage in a sparkly white jump suit.

Posted by: Robert at June 08, 2023 03:25 PM (Z45yo)

58 This is the same kind of stuff that the government used to do when we were at war. I mean, its still a 1st amendment violation and sketchy as hell but when we're watching two other countries fight? You cannot even use the excuse of being an emergency or national security here.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 08, 2023 03:25 PM (0hOvj)

59 "I do not wish Ukrainians ill. But I simply will not put the interests of Ukraine over the interests of America."

Sorry Ace. I did not wish them ill when this started. But how much more evidence do we need that Ukraine is a de facto enemy of the USA and its people? Ukraine is extorting us, blackmailing us, stealing our money to fund Dumocrap laundering operations, interfering in our internal affairs, and basically treating us like dogshit. So fuck them with a monkeypox dick. They are no friend of ours. We should be no friend of theirs.

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 08, 2023 03:25 PM (iFTx/)

60 Lawless uniparty ruling junta.

Posted by: democrats, Raping and Mutilating the Children They Cannot Kill at June 08, 2023 03:25 PM (0q+t6)

61 If granted, the users on the list would not only have been banned from Twitter but had their phone number, date of birth, and email address disclosed to both the FBI and SBU.
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Only if they provided those things to Twitter *and* didn't lie about them.

Lie about them. Always, always, always lie about them. Buy a phone number in another country. Get a non-linked E-Mail address. Set your birthday to something that isn't yours but that you can remember - like a major holiday. Do not provide personal information to the social nets if you think you might ever, for any reason, want to engage in anything that could be construed by anyone as subversive.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 08, 2023 03:25 PM (DU+/6)

62 What do you call it when you sell out your own country to aid a foreign country?

......

Enriching!
- The Clintons and Mr/Mr Obama.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 08, 2023 03:25 PM (/nCD+)

63 Twitter is a cesspit of actual Russian (and Ukrainian) trolls and bots though. Ukraine is a corrupt nightmare but Russia is still undoubtedly worse.

Posted by: F2000 at June 08, 2023 03:25 PM (l5Nue)

64 45 I'm not inclined towards benefit of the doubt, just spitballing.

Posted by: F2000 at June 08, 2023 03:23 PM (l5Nue)

You are aware that the FBI had people on staff inside Twitter, right?

Posted by: Peaches at June 08, 2023 03:25 PM (14URa)

65 Ukraine has a list of people it wants to see killed abroad on the web. In included a 12 year old girl, and is hosted at Langley, VA.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 08, 2023 03:25 PM (eoQWY)

66 I blame climate change.

Posted by: wth at June 08, 2023 03:26 PM (v0R5T)

67 The girl spawn and I watched National Treasure last night. Haven't watched in a while and she hasn't seen it all. We enjoyed. I really wish the FBI actually was like Harvey Keitel in that movie. Calm, determined, honorable.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at June 08, 2023 03:26 PM (Wy1BU)

68 37 Mike Pence says we're not doing enough for Ukraine.
Posted by: Napoleon XIV at June 08, 2023 03:22 PM (AiZBA)

He's really earning his Judas Pence stripes.. He's saying Trump told him to go against the Constitution on the certification of the "election" and Trump did no such thing.. he wanted 10 days to investigate.... Pence also says he will not pardon the Jan 6th'ers

Posted by: It's me donna at June 08, 2023 03:26 PM (bs+z0)

69 Look, if you don't allow the Ukrainian Military Intelligence guys to censor everybody on social media, including US citizens, via those honest ham 'n eggers agents at the F.B.I, that means you want Putin to win, *sarc*.

Posted by: Thrawn at June 08, 2023 03:26 PM (Rl7KJ)

70 Ukraine has a list of people it wants to see killed abroad on the web. In included a 12 year old girl, and is hosted at Langley, VA.

Can I borrow her for an erotic massage first?

Posted by: Pedo Bill Clinton at June 08, 2023 03:26 PM (lc5cP)

71 I'm sorry if we offended anyone. We will train better. At other agency requests, we sought to assist American allies and administration foreign policy goals. Blah...blah...blah.

Hey! Squirrel!

Posted by: Chris Wray, America's Patriot Act Watchdog at June 08, 2023 03:26 PM (GJXh3)

72 BTW, I have known Ukrainians who fled the then-Soviet Union, of which Ukraine was an occupied province. They were rock-ribbed anti-communists and Reaganites. One guy I remember introducing me to Full-On Right Wing Extremism -- just kidding, I mean he liked Reagan and Rush Limbaugh -- when I was still a stupid, soft-headed liberal

yeah me too. a lot of these people were settled here, to be nearby the Navy Yard where the US Gov had them working on nuclear engineering. their kids were my friends and still are.

everything you say is true

except on this subject. on this subject they support Uncle Joe ALL THE WAY. they love the Zman. it's become a wedge and I don't say a freaking WORD against The Narrative! I wouldn't ever do that! I avoid these posts even.

but me not saying ENOUGH pro-Ukraine things is a tell. so then I say some things along the Current Story lines. but apparently I'm transparent and my doubts still show.

these friendships are breaking apart, so for me, this is becoming personal. I will ALWAYS question things, always. they should understand questioning the govt. but on this - no. they want their country back, which I can't argue with at all!

Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 08, 2023 03:26 PM (w0NJk)

73 I'm sorry, every time I see the name Elvis Chan I think of a short teenaged Japanese girl with eye popping cleavage in a sparkly white jump suit.
Posted by: Robert at June 08, 2023 03:25 PM (Z45yo)

Who the hell is your hypnotherapist?

...

And what is their number?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 08, 2023 03:26 PM (9UlRk)

74 I'm sorry, every time I see the name Elvis Chan I think of a short teenaged Japanese girl with eye popping cleavage in a sparkly white jump suit.

Posted by: Robert at June 08, 2023 03:25 PM (Z45yo)

How to say "I'm not wearing pants" without actually saying "I'm not wearing pants."

Posted by: Peaches at June 08, 2023 03:26 PM (14URa)

75 43 Tucker Carlson's mammoth popularity is a sign that the dam is breaking.

Literally.

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at June 08, 2023 03:27 PM (rEj6D)

76 And Congress just funded them for the foreseeable future.

*makes jerking motion towards Wash DC

Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 08, 2023 03:27 PM (to8pj)

77 I feel like Musk should post every single censorship request from the gov't publicly. Maybe that would get them to stop

Posted by: deadrody at June 08, 2023 03:27 PM (kYmXc)

78 In his reply, Kobzanets did not directly acknowledge Roth's concerns about Ukraine's FBI-abetted effort to censor journalists. "Understood," Kobzanets told Roth. "Whatever your review determines and action Twitter deem is appropriate." He also indicated that the FBI would not meet Roth's request for any "context" that might establish ties between journalists and a foreign government: "Unlikely there will be any additional information or context."
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That *could* mean what the author stated - that the FBI would not be willing to provide any of that kind of information. But reading the words, it could mean that the FBI doesn't know and has no information to share even if they wanted to. That is even somewhat worse that the assumption the author made. If that's the case, it means that the FBI was just acting as a forwarding agent for foreign intelligence agencies and using its influence to censor American citizens on their behalf.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 08, 2023 03:27 PM (DU+/6)

79 Damn quotes

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 08, 2023 03:27 PM (DU+/6)

80 Everytime I think news about the FBI can't get worse I'm wrong.

Posted by: That Northern skulker at June 08, 2023 03:27 PM (RsfRG)

81 39 This is all so depressing. And, hey, check out DM for the new Hunter laptop pic download.
Posted by: Peaches at June 08, 2023 03:22 PM (14URa)

We need a happy thread. I suggest boobs being involved.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson Work Laptop at June 08, 2023 03:27 PM (zZu0s)

82 >>Mike Pence says we're not doing enough for Ukraine.

...also -

'I'm not a serious Candidate. Just fulfilling contract obligations for my Book Deal.'

Posted by: garrett at June 08, 2023 03:28 PM (1SYO0)

83 I'm not willing to turn over my rights to the Ukraine intelligence services. And if this is what they're asking, then I'd like to ask Russia to bomb them out of existence.
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Along with *anyone* fighting in support of Kiev's cause.

Posted by: Methos at June 08, 2023 03:28 PM (kOpft)

84 I am shocked at y'alls lack of support for a Democracy that outlaws opposition parties and jails dissident politicians.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 08, 2023 03:28 PM (aD39U)

85 I'm not willing to turn over my rights to the Ukraine intelligence services. And if this is what they're asking, then I'd like to ask Russia to bomb them out of existence.
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Asking? It sounds to me more like that this is what they're *demanding.*

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 08, 2023 03:28 PM (DU+/6)

86 OT: But this was the best news of the day. When you think there's no higher power and purpose, well, he decides to let you know he's around...

https://tinyurl.com/2ts2xccz

"Biden commented hours after the White House postponed a large Pride Month celebration with thousands of guests Thursday night on the South Lawn because of poor air quality from hazardous air flowing in from Canadian wildfires."

It will now be Saturday, so Biden will probably be in Delaware and 1/2 the guests from around the nation will probably have to go home...

Posted by: Nova Local at June 08, 2023 03:28 PM (exHjb)

87 F Ukraine

Posted by: JoeF. at June 08, 2023 03:28 PM (DUXNk)

88 The FBI has been sitting on a credible whistleblower claim for 6 years that Joe and Hunter each took $5 million dollar bribes, at least, from corrupt Ukrainian officials to fire the prosecutor looking into corruption at Burisma. They have had this information since the Spring of 2017 and they did nothing all through the fake Russia collusion hoax and the Ukraine hoax.

But then they were also part of the 2014 coup in Ukraine so they have a vested interest is seeing Ukraine be successful.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 08, 2023 03:29 PM (ZLI7S)

89 I blame climate change.
Posted by: wth at June 08, 2023 03:26 PM (v0R5T)

Systematic racism.

Posted by: JmT at June 08, 2023 03:29 PM (ucixH)

90 I-uh, uh-I-uh,, h-h-h-have-h-have a-uh,, have a-uh, a h-hang a-uh,, hang-uh n-n-n uhhmmmmmm

yeah

Posted by: John Fetterman at June 08, 2023 03:29 PM (5hfjS)

91 Continued...

"Thousands of guests had been invited from around the country for an evening filled with food, games and other activities on the South Lawn. Queen HD the DJ was handling the music, and singer Betty Who was on tap to perform."

and

"The White House initially resisted altering its plans for the celebration, saying there were no changes, even as the air quality steadily worsened along the East Coast on Wednesday and into Thursday."

Posted by: Nova Local at June 08, 2023 03:29 PM (exHjb)

92 >>39 This is all so depressing. And, hey, check out DM for the new Hunter laptop pic download.
Posted by: Peaches

What is DM?

Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 08, 2023 03:29 PM (to8pj)

93 Ukraine was/is the global left's piggy bank and money laundering facility.

The more I learn the more I'm of the mind that we're spending so much money to defend the Ukes is because if the Russians roll in and find the receipts, as the kids say, that the entire thing unravels and a lot of these so-called elites end up getting the Ceaucescu treatment.

I can't think of any other compelling interest for the United States to pour so much treasure into defending a shithole in Eastern Europe.
Posted by: ballistic at June 08, 2023 03:23 PM (oXNqT)

There's also a lot of money sticking to other people's fingers along the way - I recall one of the early 30-40 billion grants to Ukraine was analyzed and only about 6 billion was going out there, and half of that to NGOs which likely was kicked back to various connected people in the US and EU folks. Of the remainder, the Ukrainians had to steal their cut from the rest.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 08, 2023 03:29 PM (eoQWY)

94 FBI - Fascists Behaving Instinctively

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at June 08, 2023 03:29 PM (A2GMZ)

95 It should be a crime punishable by life imprisonment for a government official to ask that anyone be censored or silenced.

Posted by: Thatch at June 08, 2023 03:30 PM (jaD5Q)

96 But the election was totes on the up and up. Swearsies
Posted by: ... at June 08, 2023 03:22 PM (JONoC)
.......

Yup. Just ask Mike Pence.

Posted by: wth at June 08, 2023 03:30 PM (v0R5T)

97 >>>Mike Pence says we're not doing enough for Ukraine.

did he say what we should be doing that were not doing right now

or was he just a politician, spewing

Posted by: DB - at June 08, 2023 03:30 PM (geLO8)

98 Yeah, the FBI leadership is beyond redemption. I believe many of them wouldn't mind selling out American journalists. I just don't know if they did.

Posted by: F2000 at June 08, 2023 03:30 PM (l5Nue)

99 I do not wish Ukrainians ill. But I simply will not put the interests of Ukraine over the interests of America. We are not going to turn America into Russia to save Ukraine from Russia.

But that's what we're doing.
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Sort of. What is really going on, I think, is a bit more venal and despicable than that. "America" has no interests, and "Americans" are not special in any way (except, possibly, especially despicable). The ruling class of this former nation sees its interests as the same as Ukraine's. They're not proxies for a foreign power, oppressing their own citizens for the benefit of that foreign power. They're all on the same team, oppressing subjects from Geographical Division A on behalf of their co-class players in some other Geographical Division.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 08, 2023 03:30 PM (DU+/6)

100 37 Mike Pence says we're not doing enough for Ukraine.
Posted by: Napoleon XIV at June 08, 2023 03:22 PM (AiZBA)
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I'm not saying Pence has ever S'd a D, but he's definitely had a few in his face.

Posted by: ballistic at June 08, 2023 03:30 PM (oXNqT)

101 What is DM?

Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 08, 2023 03:29 PM (to8pj)

Daily Mail. Say what you want about them but, if not for them, I believe the laptop's contents would still be just another conspiracy theory.

Posted by: Peaches at June 08, 2023 03:30 PM (14URa)

102 >>And if this is what they're asking, then I'd like to ask Russia to bomb them out of existence.

To be fair, they are at war and in spite of what many seem to think, in war there are no rules.

I don't begrudge them for asking. They can still go f--ck themselves.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at June 08, 2023 03:31 PM (IB09k)

103 Wear your label pins proudly for our brave agents suffering because of a few bad apples.

Posted by: Sean Hannity at June 08, 2023 03:31 PM (rjsfi)

104 The Ukrainians are violating the civil rights of Americans with the help of the FBI?

That tears it. I'm taking down one of my three Ukrainian flags tonight and strongly considering removing one of my pro-Ukraine bumper stickers.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at June 08, 2023 03:31 PM (KbCG3)

105 We are being ruled by a Ruling Class of outright traitors (and thieves; don't forget the bribes).

This cannot be allowed to go on.
++++
It won't. One way or another. Reform, war or collapse-then-war will see to it. One of those will happen. This cannot go on, and so it will not go on.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 08, 2023 03:31 PM (DU+/6)

106 >>101 What is DM?

Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 08, 2023 03:29 PM (to8pj)

Daily Mail. Say what you want about them but, if not for them, I believe the laptop's contents would still be just another conspiracy theory.
Posted by: Peaches

Got it. Thanks.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 08, 2023 03:31 PM (to8pj)

107 We are worse and more dangerous than journalists so I'm sure the fqi already has files on you guys.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at June 08, 2023 03:31 PM (t5zGu)

108 but me not saying ENOUGH pro-Ukraine things is a tell. so then I say some things along the Current Story lines. but apparently I'm transparent and my doubts still show.

these friendships are breaking apart, so for me, this is becoming personal. I will ALWAYS question things, always. they should understand questioning the govt. but on this - no. they want their country back, which I can't argue with at all!
Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 08, 2023 03:26 PM (w0NJk)

Identity beats friendship beats ideology. If they're fine with evil Epsteinites using neo-Nazis to lead innocent people into a 21st century Gotterdammerung, you need to ask yourself if they are really your friends.

Posted by: trev006 at June 08, 2023 03:31 PM (ZyRtd)

109 Mrs928 asked me why Pence was running when he had zero chance of breaking 5% of the primary vote. I reminded her that he needs his payoff for betraying us. $50M in donations will allow $20M to slide into his pockets.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 08, 2023 03:32 PM (aD39U)

110 I'm not saying Pence has ever S'd a D, but he's definitely had a few in his face.

Posted by: ballistic at June 08, 2023 03:30 PM (oXNqT)

Yeah. He's definitely seen a few up close.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 08, 2023 03:32 PM (/nCD+)

111 Reposting my 78, because it's so hard to read because of the error.
In his reply, Kobzanets did not directly acknowledge Roth's concerns about Ukraine's FBI-abetted effort to censor journalists. "Understood," Kobzanets told Roth. "Whatever your review determines and action Twitter deem is appropriate." He also indicated that the FBI would not meet Roth's request for any "context" that might establish ties between journalists and a foreign government: "Unlikely there will be any additional information or context."
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That *could* mean what the author stated - that the FBI would not be willing to provide any of that kind of information. But reading the words, it could mean that the FBI doesn't know and has no information to share even if they wanted to. That is even somewhat worse that the assumption the author made. If that's the case, it means that the FBI was just acting as a forwarding agent for foreign intelligence agencies and using its influence to censor American citizens on their behalf.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 08, 2023 03:32 PM (DU+/6)

112 ... I don't know if they did in this instance. I think it's been shown that it wouldn't be the first time.

Posted by: F2000 at June 08, 2023 03:32 PM (l5Nue)

113 107 We are worse and more dangerous than journalists so I'm sure the fqi already has files on you guys.
Posted by: humphreyrobot at June 08, 2023 03:31 PM (t5zGu)

'you guys'?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson Work Laptop at June 08, 2023 03:32 PM (zZu0s)

114 Tucker Carlson's mammoth popularity is a sign that the dam is breaking.

I want that to be true, but I don't have any confidence

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 08, 2023 03:32 PM (0hOvj)

115 When they turn on a dime and start censoring people critical of Putin and Xi Jinping, will it be any better? Reorganize the FBI.

Posted by: PG at June 08, 2023 03:32 PM (Mb7Xb)

116 >>Mike Pence says we're not doing enough for Ukraine.

Well then: lace up your boots, pick up your rifle, put on a helmet and get in the fight, Soldier!

Posted by: garrett at June 08, 2023 03:32 PM (1SYO0)

117 local radio played Pence's remarks the other day

I might have spontaneously started singing La Marseillaise or something

Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 08, 2023 03:32 PM (w0NJk)

118 Elvis is number nine son.

Posted by: Charlie Chan at June 08, 2023 03:32 PM (63Dwl)

119 I'm not willing to turn over my rights to the Ukraine intelligence services. And if this is what they're asking, then I'd like to ask Russia to bomb them out of existence.

Ukrainian Intelligence or the FBI?

Please don't answer that.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 08, 2023 03:32 PM (xhaym)

120 what was the official response to what durham reported? oh yeah, steps have been taken to correct this.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at June 08, 2023 03:32 PM (B1FKF)

121 "can't think of any other compelling interest for the United States to pour so much treasure into defending a shithole in Eastern Europe."

Mel Gibson is coming out with a four part series on human child trafficking. It started with UKRaine and got way too big. Hmm. How bout that southern border?

I'd say there is something really ducking nasty going on. Nuke worthy.

Posted by: Derak at June 08, 2023 03:33 PM (RuGae)

122 FBI is wearing the skin suit of it's predecessors.

Posted by: torabora at June 08, 2023 03:33 PM (OUiUM)

123 This cannot be allowed to go on.
++++
It won't. One way or another. Reform, war or collapse-then-war will see to it. One of those will happen. This cannot go on, and so it will not go on.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 08, 2023 03:31 PM (DU+/6)

The Soviet Union lasted 70 years.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 08, 2023 03:33 PM (aD39U)

124 I can't think of any other compelling interest for the United States to pour so much treasure into defending a shithole in Eastern Europe.
Posted by: ballistic at June 08, 2023 03:23 PM (oXNqT)

Concur. From sodomite child sex trafficking, Biden Payola and payoffs, germ warfare labs and Hunter's sexcapades and kickbacks, Ukraine seems to be ground zero.

Like what Hyman Roth said having a friendly country to do business in and being bigger than US Steel.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 08, 2023 03:33 PM (dQWfI)

125 Well then: lace up your boots, pick up your rifle, put on a helmet and get in the fight, Soldier!

Posted by: garrett at June 08, 2023 03:32 PM (1SYO0)

You misspelled 'crocs.'

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 08, 2023 03:33 PM (/nCD+)

126 110 I'm not saying Pence has ever S'd a D, but he's definitely had a few in his face.

Posted by: ballistic at June 08, 2023 03:30 PM (oXNqT)

Yeah. He's definitely seen a few up close.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 08, 2023 03:32 PM (/nCD+)

I have never wanted to have Race Bannon rule 34 content in my head. To hell with you guys.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson Work Laptop at June 08, 2023 03:33 PM (zZu0s)

127 Ukraine was/is the global left's piggy bank and money laundering facility

And source of underage slavic girls. And boys.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 08, 2023 03:33 PM (0hOvj)

128 Sorry to OT such an important threads 'Ron's &' ettes but...

What is the fallacy where bureaucrats threaten to cut the most essential services first when they face a tax rebellion?

I was sure it was here I heard the fallacy given name.
Thanks all.

Posted by: I still can't think of anything at June 08, 2023 03:33 PM (c0hsa)

129 these friendships are breaking apart, so for me, this is becoming personal. I will ALWAYS question things, always. they should understand questioning the govt. but on this - no. they want their country back, which I can't argue with at all!
Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 08, 2023 03:26 PM (w0NJk)

They will never get it back. If the Globalists win the country will be run by Globalists, If the Russians by the Russians. Somehow, before the war the bread-basket of the world was the poorest nation in Europe, so I wouldn't be encouraged that things will improve.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 08, 2023 03:33 PM (eoQWY)

130 80 Everytime I think news about the FBI can't get worse I'm wrong.
Posted by: That Northern skulker at June 08, 2023 03:27 PM (RsfRG)

Stop thinking that! You're jinxing us.

Posted by: Just Lily at June 08, 2023 03:33 PM (RLLZj)

131 (Ace, I'd also like to say that I suspect you may have been turned on to Larry Johnson and Andrei Martyanov.

If so, then perhaps you've become aware of the reality that not only is Ukraine clearly the "bad guy" in Russia's SMO; but also of the far worse reality that the US military's conventional prowess is desperately far behind that of Russia's. Currently, if it were to come down to a conventional-warfare contest, unfortunately, the Ruskies would kick our ever-lovin' asses. And that sucks.

We cannot begin to remotely compare with Russia's industrial capacity.)

Posted by: Bach in Black at June 08, 2023 03:33 PM (7ubmG)

132 I was wondering how Hot Ukrainian Women What Wanting You was suddenly and regularly slipping past my junk box.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at June 08, 2023 03:34 PM (wzAuc)

133 >To be fair, they are at war and in spite of what many seem to think, in war there are no rules.

There are a few rules

1) no nuclear tests after midnight
2) carnage is due the first of the month
3) please clean up after your dogs of war

Posted by: DB - at June 08, 2023 03:34 PM (geLO8)

134 But then they were also part of the 2014 coup in Ukraine so they have a vested interest is seeing Ukraine be successful.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 08, 2023 03:29 PM (ZLI7S)
++++
That's definitely a part of it. I think there would not be a war in Ukraine if it hadn't been for American actions, starting in 2008 with Georgia, then 2014 in Ukraine, then 2021 in both Kazakhstan and Ukraine.

Not only is there a lot of inconvenient history to suppress, they stole Ukraine fair and square. They *have* to go all-in on Ukraine, because it's so central to their scheming.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 08, 2023 03:34 PM (DU+/6)

135 Hiya

Posted by: JT at June 08, 2023 03:34 PM (T4tVD)

136 I'm sorry, every time I see the name Elvis Chan I think of a short teenaged Japanese girl with eye popping cleavage in a sparkly white jump suit.

Posted by: Robert at June 08, 2023 03:25 PM (Z45yo)
.......

I want some of what this guys smoking.

Posted by: wth at June 08, 2023 03:34 PM (v0R5T)

137 The Soviet Union lasted 70 years.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 08, 2023 03:33 PM (aD39U)

If you start counting with Wilson, we're way overdue.

Posted by: Peaches at June 08, 2023 03:34 PM (14URa)

138 92 >>39 This is all so depressing. And, hey, check out DM for the new Hunter laptop pic download.
Posted by: Peaches

What is DM?
Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 08, 2023 03:29 PM (to8pj)

Took me a while, but I'm betting "Daily Mail" as you can't get news about the ruling Junta from media in this country.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at June 08, 2023 03:34 PM (N1DT3)

139 After Russia nukes Washington the FBI will absolutely need a new HQ building.

Posted by: torabora at June 08, 2023 03:34 PM (OUiUM)

140 I want that to be true, but I don't have any confidence
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 08, 2023 03:32 PM (0hOvj)

If you did, you'd land Diablo Cake Girl.

Come on man. You can do it!

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson Work Laptop at June 08, 2023 03:35 PM (zZu0s)

141 I want that to be true, but I don't have any confidence
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 08, 2023 03:32 PM (0hOvj)

While I believe that a broad spectrum of the United States is extremely supportive of the basic pro-American agenda, more than Trump's winning coalition before Biden defrauded him out of re-election, I also believe the New York oligarchy has zero intent of recognizing that. They'd rather see your personal home burned down by their pets.

Fine. Time to stoke the furnaces.

Posted by: trev006 at June 08, 2023 03:35 PM (ZyRtd)

142 It will now be Saturday, so Biden will probably be in Delaware and 1/2 the guests from around the nation will probably have to go home...
Posted by: Nova Local at June 08, 2023 03:28 PM (exHjb)
No they’ll hang in DC plenty of they action there

Posted by: Avi at June 08, 2023 03:35 PM (Z6KGs)

143 I guess I'll be foregoing that vacation to Keeeeeve.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at June 08, 2023 03:35 PM (WcwJt)

144 132 I was wondering how Hot Ukrainian Women What Wanting You was suddenly and regularly slipping past my junk box.
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at June 08, 2023 03:34 PM (wzAuc)

Is 'junk box' a euphemism. It should be. Also, right on!

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson Work Laptop at June 08, 2023 03:36 PM (zZu0s)

145
Mike Pence says we're not doing enough for Ukraine.

Well then: lace up your boots, pick up your rifle, put on a helmet and get in the fight, Soldier!
Posted by: garrett

Put down your phone and pick up a gun.
You're gonna have a whole lot of fun.

Posted by: Country Joe at June 08, 2023 03:36 PM (63Dwl)

146 The Daily Mail seems to be heavy on celebrity/royal family news, but there are some nuggets in the dreck now and then

Posted by: DB - at June 08, 2023 03:36 PM (geLO8)

147 143 I guess I'll be foregoing that vacation to Keeeeeve.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at June 08, 2023 03:35 PM (WcwJt)

Me too

Posted by: Zelensky at June 08, 2023 03:36 PM (bs+z0)

148 The Soviet Union lasted 70 years.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 08, 2023 03:33 PM (aD39U)
++++
It did indeed. They got a couple of life rafts thrown to them along the way, too. One was WWII. It was enormously destructive, but they got a lot of brand-new, American-made industry in the bargain, and tons of new territory. That helps a lot. Then by the mid-70s, when the USSR was on the brink of collapse, the Arabs handed them a new lease life on life with the oil embargo. If it had not been for the embargo, the USSR would have probably collapsed a decade sooner if not earlier.

But yes, it can go on for quite some time. We're also not in year zero.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 08, 2023 03:36 PM (DU+/6)

149 Ukrainian Intelligence or the FBI?

Please don't answer that.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 08, 2023 03:32 PM (xhaym)

So far UKR intelligence has bombed two authors in Russia killing one, and the other's innocent daughter and friend, shot up a few villages in Belgorod district, and fooled some poor truck driver to get himself exploded on the Crimea bridge, doing minor damage.

FBI seems a bit less explodey.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 08, 2023 03:36 PM (eoQWY)

150 >>>Tucker Carlson's mammoth popularity is a sign that the dam is breaking.

I want that to be true, but I don't have any confidence

A lot of stuff is getting out that the Deep State doesn't want out, and it's being openly discussed on Twitter. A lot of cranky leftists really did leave for Mastodon and Blue Sky, but Twitter still has the network effect advantage.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 08, 2023 03:37 PM (ZGrMX)

151 If so, then perhaps you've become aware of the reality that not only is Ukraine clearly the "bad guy" in Russia's SMO; but also of the far worse reality that the US military's conventional prowess is desperately far behind that of Russia's. Currently, if it were to come down to a conventional-warfare contest, unfortunately, the Ruskies would kick our ever-lovin' asses. And that sucks.

We cannot begin to remotely compare with Russia's industrial capacity.)
Posted by: Bach in Black at June 08, 2023 03:33 PM (7ubmG)

It's genuinely shocking. The hasbaratards have manipulated public opinion, but not enough to convince me. If conventional war breaks out, there is a very real chance Russian tanks will push clear into Berlin. Wouldn't be the first time.

Posted by: trev006 at June 08, 2023 03:37 PM (ZyRtd)

152 F Zelensky and F Putin. This is a European problem with ancient roots. Let them eff each other. We have no dog in this fight except the embarrassment caused by the Biden's Ukrainian money laundromat.
Posted by: Cosda at June 08, 2023 03:21 PM (IkIG6)

and if we had kept our money out of there, then it would have been solved decades ago, and Ukraine would have gone back to being a boring place. The US Feral Govt. has made it really bad

Posted by: Kindltot at June 08, 2023 03:37 PM (xhaym)

153 Deep State or Marxists?

Posted by: Skip at June 08, 2023 03:37 PM (xhxe8)

154 We are being ruled by a Ruling Class of outright traitors (and thieves; don't forget the bribes).

This cannot be allowed to go on.

////////////

but it will.

you can imagine the 1938 version of ace writing up his newsletter complaining about FDR saying the same thing.

that's america...you'll have to wait for a couple decades.

Posted by: sockamster, master/hamster...the truth may shock you at June 08, 2023 03:37 PM (MLrvz)

155 I'm AGHAST at hearing what those INCREDIBLE patriots at the FBI are doing...but I'm sure that there's a good, patriotic reason for it, so all should be forgiven as 99.9999999% of them are GREAT AMERICANS and just want what's best for the country!!!

Posted by: Sean Hannity at June 08, 2023 03:37 PM (PJaTp)

156 Ukrainian Intelligence or the FBI?

Please don't answer that.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 08, 2023 03:32 PM (xhaym)

So far UKR intelligence has bombed two authors in Russia killing one, and the other's innocent daughter and friend, shot up a few villages in Belgorod district, and fooled some poor truck driver to get himself exploded on the Crimea bridge, doing minor damage.

FBI seems a bit less explodey.
Posted by: Oldcat

*Ruby Ridge & Mt Carmel have entered the chat

Posted by: rickb223 at June 08, 2023 03:38 PM (1x9G1)

157 Pepperidge Farm Remembers when Trump wanted to investigate Ukraine, and the Left backed him off SO hard.

Posted by: ... at June 08, 2023 03:38 PM (O1Noy)

158 So far UKR intelligence has bombed two authors in Russia killing one, and the other's innocent daughter and friend, shot up a few villages in Belgorod district, and fooled some poor truck driver to get himself exploded on the Crimea bridge, doing minor damage.

FBI seems a bit less explodey.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 08, 2023 03:36 PM (eoQWY)
++++
The Pulse Nightclub shooter, the San Bernadino shooter, whoever came out of that terror training compound in New Mexico and probably the Vegas shooter would beg to differ...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 08, 2023 03:38 PM (DU+/6)

159
Mel Gibson is coming out with a four part series on human child trafficking. It started with UKRaine and got way too big. Hmm. How bout that southern border?

I'd say there is something really ducking nasty going on. Nuke worthy.

Posted by: Derak at June 08, 2023 03:33 PM

Ukraine became a thing when the gaze couldn't adopt Russian infants. So the Ukies said, "How many you need?" Then the requests became even more bizarre. But some political figure needed to get greased to cover the graft. Some President needed to be impeached for even asking questions. Some family raked in millions and now Justice covers for them.

*spit*

Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 08, 2023 03:38 PM (enJYY)

160 NORMZZZZ Status:

[X] Restored

Posted by: ShainS -- Oppression Scientist and Your AI Interpreter at June 08, 2023 03:38 PM (LvBJA)

161 Don't turn around

Der Kommissar's in town

Uh Oh!!

Posted by: Milquetoast Mortgage-Paying Neighbor in Flyover Country at June 08, 2023 03:38 PM (5C4od)

162 I would feel better about this entire situation if I were able to see a professionally photographed image of a young busty Ukrainian girl in her underwear.

Posted by: Too soon? at June 08, 2023 03:39 PM (09nYy)

163 "This cannot be allowed to go on."

81 BAJILLION and LEGIT votes says otherwise, fats!

Posted by: Former Vice President Joe Biden at June 08, 2023 03:39 PM (PJaTp)

164 This week my father lectured me about not despairing about the country. His answer was to vote harder, donate more to the Republicans, maybe write letters to the editor in various print newspapers.

To him, it is 2003, and yes, sadly, he has dementia.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 08, 2023 03:39 PM (aD39U)

165 FBI - Fascists Behaving Instinctively
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at June 08, 2023 03:29 PM (A2GMZ)

Federal Government Inflated. Coolidge was the last one who had it right. Reagan tried.

Posted by: JmT at June 08, 2023 03:39 PM (ucixH)

166 They also stopped Trump from having any sort of connection or association with Russia. Backed him off from there, too, come to think of it.

Huh.

Posted by: ... at June 08, 2023 03:40 PM (O1Noy)

167
You'd think journalists would pounce on this. You'd think they would object.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 08, 2023 03:40 PM (lCaJd)

168 I do not wish Ukrainians ill. But I simply will not put the interests of Ukraine over the interests of America.

Posted by Ace at 03:14 PM

That's pathetic Ace. Turn in your "Elite" card.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 08, 2023 03:40 PM (ZCCyW)

169 Some astute people kept saying that all the Uke stuff put out there through the usual channels, mass media , is unadulterated BS. But no, they kept posting about the ghost of Kiev.....

Posted by: runner at June 08, 2023 03:40 PM (j9VvT)

170 What would be legally required for giving Christopher Wray a good, old fashioned torturing?

Posted by: That Northern skulker at June 08, 2023 03:41 PM (RsfRG)

171 F Zelensky and F Putin. This is a European problem with ancient roots. Let them eff each other. We have no dog in this fight except the embarrassment caused by the Biden's Ukrainian money laundromat.
Posted by: Cosda at June 08, 2023 03:21 PM (IkIG6)

and if we had kept our money out of there, then it would have been solved decades ago, and Ukraine would have gone back to being a boring place. The US Feral Govt. has made it really bad
Posted by: Kindltot at June 08, 2023 03:37 PM (xhaym)

In the first month the Russians did that 'show of force' lunge to the gates of Kiev and Zelensky was impressed enough to start peace talks in Turkey. Russia pulled back from Kiev area

Boris Johnson flew to Kiev for a talk and these discussions were dropped entirely and not resumed.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 08, 2023 03:41 PM (eoQWY)

172 NORMZZZZ Status:

[X] Restored
Posted by: ShainS -- Oppression Scientist and Your AI Interpreter

NORM!

Posted by: the gang at Cheers at June 08, 2023 03:41 PM (v0R5T)

173 Nothing can outdo Pence riding a Harley wearing a leather vest covered in poser patches into the crowd of a dozen. What a complete douchebag.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 08, 2023 03:41 PM (to8pj)

174 By the way, it may have already been mentioned but Ukraine is holding American/Peruvian dual citizen blogger and YTuber Gonzalo Lira on charges of criticizing Ukraine and denying the illegality of Russian incursion to his handful of YouTube watchers.

The State Department officials were asked about it and said they were aware of the report and that's all that could be said at this point.

It is apparently easier to negotiate with the evil Putler and Russia for the lesbo basketball player than it is to negotiate with our precious democratic allies and glorious freedom fighters in Ukraine.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at June 08, 2023 03:41 PM (WcwJt)

175 That's pathetic Ace. Turn in your "Elite" card.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 08, 2023 03:40 PM (ZCCyW)
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Whoa! Ace was elite? I feel like I've been lied to for years!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 08, 2023 03:41 PM (DU+/6)

176 For those of you who don't understand why "Elvis Chan" is hilarious, "-chan" as a suffix is used by fans of Japanese anime/manga/gaming to indicate something small and/or cute. Usually a dog, cat, girl, or in the HQ's case, Ewok.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 08, 2023 03:42 PM (ZGrMX)

177 Everytime I think news about the FBI can't get worse I'm wrong.
Posted by: That Northern skulker at June 08, 2023 03:27 PM (RsfRG)
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All those rumors about us renditioning Americans to Ukraine for summary trial are totally false! Mostly.

Posted by: Chris Wray, America's Patriot Act Watchdog at June 08, 2023 03:42 PM (upe25)

178 167
You'd think journalists would pounce on this. You'd think they would object.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 08, 2023 03:40 PM (lCaJd)

Well first we'd need to find some actual journalists.

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at June 08, 2023 03:42 PM (NxOLn)

179 Hey, where's the commenter who was accusing people of disloyalty to Ukraine this morning? LOL.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 08, 2023 03:42 PM (ZGrMX)

180 We're just making a sure that you will be sending your best kids over here to die - for a noble cause!

Posted by: President Zelensky The Clown at June 08, 2023 03:42 PM (PJaTp)

181 Its like we've been "fundamentally transformed"...

Posted by: poconohound at June 08, 2023 03:42 PM (BQk+7)

182 The hasbaratards have manipulated public opinion, but not enough to convince me.

Posted by: trev006 at June 08, 2023 03:37 PM (ZyRtd)

Care to explain this Mr. Jew-Hater?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 08, 2023 03:42 PM (ZCCyW)

183 Nothing can outdo Pence riding a Harley wearing a leather vest covered in poser patches into the crowd of a dozen. What a complete douchebag.

*rolls over in grave*

Posted by: zombie mike dukakis at June 08, 2023 03:43 PM (ppBhU)

184 We need reporters, not journalists.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 08, 2023 03:43 PM (aD39U)

185 So Zelenskyy can not only silence the opposition party, all media and churches in Ukraine but in America?!?!?

Wow

Posted by: Lizzy at June 08, 2023 03:43 PM (sK+yz)

186 It is apparently easier to negotiate with the evil Putler and Russia for the lesbo basketball player than it is to negotiate with our precious democratic allies and glorious freedom fighters in Ukraine.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at June 08, 2023 03:41 PM (WcwJt)
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It's all about the victim. Griner is a politically-correct victim. This person you're describing (first I've heard of it, so thanks for that) is *not* a politically-correct victim.

Remember, "Americans" do not exist anymore as far as the state is concerned. Only subjects of various regions.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 08, 2023 03:43 PM (DU+/6)

187 FBI - Fascists Behaving Instinctively
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at June 08, 2023 03:29 PM (A2GMZ)
.......

They should have stuck with Inspecting Female Bodies.

Posted by: wth at June 08, 2023 03:43 PM (v0R5T)

188 What do you call it when you sell out your own country to aid a foreign country?

Fortification!

Posted by: t-bird at June 08, 2023 03:43 PM (CaJIi)

189 @159

About that, uke is / was known for surrogates farms.

Posted by: runner at June 08, 2023 03:44 PM (j9VvT)

190 148 The Soviet Union lasted 70 years.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 08, 2023 03:33 PM (aD39U)
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It did indeed. They got a couple of life rafts thrown to them along the way, too. One was WWII. It was enormously destructive, but they got a lot of brand-new, American-made industry in the bargain, and tons of new territory. That helps a lot. Then by the mid-70s, when the USSR was on the brink of collapse, the Arabs handed them a new lease life on life with the oil embargo. If it had not been for the embargo, the USSR would have probably collapsed a decade sooner if not earlier.

But yes, it can go on for quite some time. We're also not in year zero.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 08, 2023 03:36 PM (DU+/6)
_________

I don't disagree but I would add: had it not been for Reagan, the USSR would still exist. There is no way -- not ever -- that the Democrats would have ever done anything to upset their commie fellow travelers and graft partners in the USSR. The American left has long had a love affair with Soviet communism, going back 100 years. Right up until 2015.

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 08, 2023 03:44 PM (iFTx/)

191 I would feel better about this entire situation if I were able to see a professionally photographed image of a young busty Ukrainian girl in her underwear.
Posted by: Too soon? at June 08, 2023 03:39 PM (09nYy)

I remember early on there were a slate of comely male and female UKR soldiers photos being put online by NATO and other official channels.

They were often dropped when others pointed out that you could see Nazi and Neo Nazi tatoos or symbols on their clothes.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 08, 2023 03:44 PM (eoQWY)

192 25 This cannot be allowed to go on.

STEINER WILL COME
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and David Ogilvy.

too late. We need Wildey

Posted by: Paul Kersey at June 08, 2023 03:44 PM (IB09k)

193 Well first we'd need to find some actual journalists.

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at June 08, 2023 03:42 PM (NxOLn)

It's mostly presstitutes now.

Posted by: Peaches at June 08, 2023 03:44 PM (14URa)

194 162 I would feel better about this entire situation if I were able to see a professionally photographed image of a young busty Ukrainian girl in her underwear.
Posted by: Too soon? at June 08, 2023 03:39 PM (09nYy)

Not photoshopped, but Ukrainian:

https://tinyurl.com/mr2f2kju

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson Work Laptop at June 08, 2023 03:44 PM (zZu0s)

195 As far as I am concerned, Ukraine is just a breakaway province of Greater Moldova.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 08, 2023 03:44 PM (aD39U)

196 Deep State or Marxists?
Posted by: Skip

You get any rain ?

Neither did I.

Posted by: JT at June 08, 2023 03:44 PM (T4tVD)

197 For those of you who don't understand why "Elvis Chan" is hilarious, "-chan" as a suffix is used by fans of Japanese anime/manga/gaming to indicate something small and/or cute. Usually a dog, cat, girl, or in the HQ's case, Ewok.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 08, 2023 03:42 PM (ZGrMX)
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My favorite was "Corona-chan"

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 08, 2023 03:44 PM (DU+/6)

198 Some people would do anything for money.

Posted by: runner at June 08, 2023 03:44 PM (j9VvT)

199 Hey, where's the commenter who was accusing people of disloyalty to Ukraine this morning? LOL.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 08, 2023 03:42 PM (ZGrMX)

=====

Oooh, I missed that.

Posted by: Jordan61 at June 08, 2023 03:44 PM (DRSnL)

200 Guys, there was no wink or nod.

So there was no criminal conspiracy by government agents to deprive American citizens of their civil right.

Besides: No standing.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 08, 2023 03:45 PM (5EnGD)

201 trevoo6 @ comment 151,

I seriously doubt that Russia will do more than permanently secure the Eastern region of Ukraine - extending as far south as Odessa and thereby completely (or nearly so) land-locking Ukraine into a rump-State status.

The Ruskies might take Keeeeve to oust the current rotten regime and further annihilate Ukraine's Nazi infestation; but I doubt Russia would want to permanently hold anything west of the Dnieper River.

Posted by: Bach in Black at June 08, 2023 03:45 PM (7ubmG)

202 The American left has long had a love affair with Soviet communism, going back 100 years. Right up until 2015.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 08, 2023 03:44 PM (iFTx/)

I think much of the current elite hatred of Russia is because the Russian government ended Soviet communism.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 08, 2023 03:45 PM (eoQWY)

203 I don't disagree but I would add: had it not been for Reagan, the USSR would still exist. There is no way -- not ever -- that the Democrats would have ever done anything to upset their commie fellow travelers and graft partners in the USSR. The American left has long had a love affair with Soviet communism, going back 100 years. Right up until 2015.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 08, 2023 03:44 PM (iFTx/)
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Sure. The Dems had their backs. That was great for them, and also a one-off.

Who has our backs? Nobody. Nobody is big enough. There's no one to bail *us* out.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 08, 2023 03:45 PM (DU+/6)

204 Is there a TikTok dance I can do that will make this all better?

Posted by: GenZ Thot at June 08, 2023 03:45 PM (PJaTp)

205 Tori Nuland, her hubs, Robert Kagan and their buds have been running things for 25 years

except for the Trump years

they left and Robert Kagan, a life long republican, endorsed Cankles in 2016

these people stink upwind

Posted by: REDACTED at June 08, 2023 03:45 PM (us2H3)

206 As far as I am concerned, Ukraine is just a breakaway province of Greater Moldova.
Posted by: G'rump928(

Poland....which is a small country...

Posted by: runner at June 08, 2023 03:45 PM (j9VvT)

207 We need to start using the criminal law to make sure that our "civil servants" understand that the country they serve is America, not Ukraine.

------------------

It's already too late, looking after our interests and right should have been instinctual yet there they are selling out the lot. Nuke the lot and start again, don't bother with litigation.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at June 08, 2023 03:46 PM (3JfbU)

208 182 The hasbaratards have manipulated public opinion, but not enough to convince me.

Posted by: trev006 at June 08, 2023 03:37 PM (ZyRtd)

Care to explain this Mr. Jew-Hater?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 08, 2023 03:42 PM (ZCCyW)

Ah.

It seems anytime I see some term I've never heard of before in regards to some conspiracy, I should expect it to be Jewish.

I was wondering what hasbaratards meant, but I don't google terms I find on this blog... It keeps me sane and, more importantly, employed.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at June 08, 2023 03:46 PM (N1DT3)

209 Hey, where's the commenter who was accusing people of disloyalty to Ukraine this morning? LOL.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 08, 2023 03:42 PM (ZGrMX)

Drafting his comment about how the Russians probably attacked the Kremlin themselves as a false flag to make Ukraine look bad in advance of the news.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at June 08, 2023 03:46 PM (WcwJt)

210 The Ruskies might take Keeeeve to oust the current rotten regime and further annihilate Ukraine's Nazi infestation; but I doubt Russia would want to permanently hold anything west of the Dnieper River.
Posted by: Bach in Black at June 08, 2023 03:45 PM (7ubmG)
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Annex all of the Russian parts and hold a new line of control on a geographic boundary, or try to annex the non-Russian parts and fight a low-grade generational war in an effort to hold it.

I know which one I would pick, and I suspect it's the one that Putin will pick.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 08, 2023 03:47 PM (DU+/6)

211 The name Elvis Chan makes me think of a gay figure skater.

Posted by: That Northern skulker at June 08, 2023 03:47 PM (RsfRG)

212 I would feel better about this entire situation if I were able to see a professionally photographed image of a young busty Ukrainian girl in her underwear.
Posted by: Too soon? at June 08, 2023 03:39 PM (09nYy)
.......

The mail order brides all fled to Poland, so Ukraine is basically worthless.

Posted by: wth at June 08, 2023 03:47 PM (v0R5T)

213 Posted by: Bitter Clinger at June 08, 2023 03:41 PM (WcwJt)

Gonzalo is Chilean not Peruvian.

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at June 08, 2023 03:47 PM (rEj6D)

214 185 So Zelenskyy can not only silence the opposition party, all media and churches in Ukraine but in America?!?!?

Wow

Posted by: Lizzy at June 08, 2023 03:43 PM (sK+yz)
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Sounds like someone doesn't understand that Ukraine is a democracy ....

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 08, 2023 03:47 PM (5EnGD)

215 Democrats would have ever done anything to upset their commie fellow travelers and graft partners in the USSR.

Well, sure, but the USSR wasn't evil like contemporary Russia is.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at June 08, 2023 03:47 PM (ppBhU)

216
Not photoshopped, but Ukrainian:

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson Work Laptop at June 08, 2023 03:44 PM

Okay, cute even, but hardly worth living in my wine cellar for years until the rad count becomes survivable.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 08, 2023 03:48 PM (enJYY)

217 This bespectacled blonde doesn't have firm opinions on the Russo-Ukrainian conflict, but absolutely does *not* support the American IC and LE complexes running roughshod over American citizens over it:
https://is.gd/0HVw1E

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 08, 2023 03:48 PM (DU+/6)

218 Gonzalo is Chilean not Peruvian.

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at June 08, 2023 03:47 PM (rEj6D)

....

Thanks for that correction.

I knew it was one of those SA countries.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at June 08, 2023 03:48 PM (WcwJt)

219 204 Is there a TikTok dance I can do that will make this all better?

Please throw one in for the smoke signals from Canadia while you're at it.

Posted by: Whiny babies in NYC at June 08, 2023 03:48 PM (09nYy)

220 I was wondering what hasbaratards meant,

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at June 08, 2023 03:46 PM (N1DT3)

"Hasbara" means diplomacy in support of the state of Israel.

It's our resident anti-Semite's way of being cute with his Jew hate.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 08, 2023 03:48 PM (ZCCyW)

221 Ukraine is a democracy, Iran is a Republic.

Posted by: runner at June 08, 2023 03:49 PM (j9VvT)

222 I don't disagree but I would add: had it not been for Reagan, the USSR would still exist. There is no way -- not ever -- that the Democrats would have ever done anything to upset their commie fellow travelers and graft partners in the USSR. The American left has long had a love affair with Soviet communism, going back 100 years. Right up until 2015.

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 08, 2023 03:44 PM (iFTx/)

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The Soviet Union was contemporary China before the former became #BearManBad and the latter cool.

Posted by: ShainS -- Oppression Scientist and Your AI Interpreter at June 08, 2023 03:49 PM (LvBJA)

223 Okay, cute even, but hardly worth living in my wine cellar for years until the rad count becomes survivable.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 08, 2023 03:48 PM (enJYY)

Look her up. Katerina Soria.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson Work Laptop at June 08, 2023 03:49 PM (zZu0s)

224 I was wondering what hasbaratards meant, but I don't google terms I find on this blog... It keeps me sane and, more importantly, employed.

Where's your sense of adventure? How could something named Lemon Party be unwholesome?

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at June 08, 2023 03:49 PM (ppBhU)

225 I seriously doubt that Russia will do more than permanently secure the Eastern region of Ukraine - extending as far south as Odessa and thereby completely (or nearly so) land-locking Ukraine into a rump-State status.

The Ruskies might take Keeeeve to oust the current rotten regime and further annihilate Ukraine's Nazi infestation; but I doubt Russia would want to permanently hold anything west of the Dnieper River.
Posted by: Bach in Black at June 08, 2023 03:45 PM (7ubmG)

I think they might hold some of the far bank as a client state to buffer the incorporated areas from artillery attack. UKR seems to have a hobby of firing guns at Donbas cities.

This also reduces the size of the rump state. Kiev plus some farmland produces a state that even NATOized isn't a threat to Russia plus Russian Ukraine, even with western aid. Think of Austria after WWI minus Hungary and the Balkans, not much of a country afterward.

A trump card to play is to offer slices of West Ukraine to Poland, Hungary and other states. Again, reduces solidarity in the remaining area.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 08, 2023 03:49 PM (eoQWY)

226 Susan Rice left cuz she could not abide by Nulands politics and she basically lost power in the name of the Obamas

the Nulands see having an all out war with Russia a way, maybe the only way to hold onto power

Posted by: REDACTED at June 08, 2023 03:50 PM (us2H3)

227 I mean, I dislike the Russians.

but you realize that evil lizard demon let the cat out of the bag about why they support this war...both sides are Christians and they want as many as possible to die.

Posted by: sockamster, master/hamster...the truth may shock you at June 08, 2023 03:50 PM (MLrvz)

228 jamie raskin. die of cancer pls

Posted by: sockamster, master/hamster...the truth may shock you at June 08, 2023 03:50 PM (MLrvz)

229 Remember during the WoT the FNM said that they would gleefully report "the news" even if it got Americans killed because that was the right thing to do.

Now if you report the truth in the Uke war, which the US is not even formally a participant in, they'll give your info to Ukrainian death squads.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 08, 2023 03:20 PM (lc5cP)

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And all those media people are fine with it. Consistency - still anti-American.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at June 08, 2023 03:50 PM (3JfbU)

230 Hey, where's the commenter who was accusing people of disloyalty to Ukraine this morning? LOL.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 08, 2023 03:42 PM (ZGrMX)

That was our good friend Archimedes. It was a little weird.

Posted by: ... at June 08, 2023 03:50 PM (YU4yD)

231 Care to explain this Mr. Jew-Hater?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 08, 2023 03:42 PM (ZCCyW)

What, you mean the constant drumbeat of insane and malevolent lies from your pals at ISW, the Vindman types at the Pentagon, and literally all of the New York media including Fox? I could take all day detailing the fact the American cabal is less realistic than Baghdad Bob, but let's focus on Ukrainian casualties in this post.

The Pentagon papers, among most other sources, clearly believe the notion that Ukraine has suffered less than 20000 KIA during the entire war. Absolutely risible. It would be the first time in history a much smaller country with less military equipment had inflicted many more Russian casualties (also an absurd lie, but not the focus here) without impenetrable natural defenses or a gigantic technological advantage.

Maybe you buy into all that, and I wouldn't be slightly surprised. Zelensky and all those who serve his greedy, evil interests are the real enemy. Full stop.

Posted by: trev006 at June 08, 2023 03:50 PM (ZyRtd)

232 Is there a TikTok dance I can do that will make this all better?
Posted by: GenZ Thot at June 08, 2023 03:45 PM (PJaTp)

Ummmmmmm....Yes.

The "Rump Shaker".

https://tinyurl.com/d7uu6u2s

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 08, 2023 03:50 PM (dQWfI)

233 We need reporters, not journalists.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 08, 2023 03:43 PM (aD39U)

Ernie Pyle- reporter.
Anderson Cooper- journalist.

Posted by: JmT at June 08, 2023 03:51 PM (ucixH)

234 As far as I am concerned, Ukraine is just a breakaway province of Greater Moldova.
Posted by: G'rump928(

Poland....which is a small country...
Posted by: runner at June 08, 2023 03:45 PM (j9VvT)

No, Moldova broke away from Transnistria!!!

Posted by: Oldcat at June 08, 2023 03:51 PM (eoQWY)

235 I was wondering what hasbaratards meant, but I don't google terms I find on this blog... It keeps me sane and, more importantly, employed.
-
Hasbro-retards?

I would guess that's whoever decided to make Arcee the trans transformer.

Posted by: Methos at June 08, 2023 03:51 PM (kOpft)

236 162 Too Soon, check out Solomia Maievska.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 08, 2023 03:52 PM (8mdkL)

237 'The blood must flow.'
- old scratch

Posted by: Eromero at June 08, 2023 03:52 PM (z3WCn)

238 They said if I voted for Trump I'd end up living under the fascist boot.

They were right.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 08, 2023 03:53 PM (YkX0a)

239 "Hasbara" means diplomacy in support of the state of Israel.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 08, 2023 03:48 PM (ZCCyW)

Incorrect. Israel is allegedly neutral in this conflict, and I really doubt they want the Russian military to take an aggressive interest in expanding the current war to Syria and Iran. But then the same people trying desperately to punt out the Netanyahu coalition are likely in cahoots with the Vindmans, so I don't have particularly strong attachments to the notion.

Posted by: trev006 at June 08, 2023 03:53 PM (ZyRtd)

240 "...Nulands see having an all out war with Russia a way, maybe the only way to hold onto power"

Yes, and then we'll all be expected to fall in line, rah-rah, rally 'round the flag, etc.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at June 08, 2023 03:53 PM (72qIu)

241 "Hasbara" means diplomacy in support of the state of Israel.

It's our resident anti-Semite's way of being cute with his Jew hate.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 08, 2023 03:48 PM (ZCCyW)

Jew hate is one of the things I don't understand.

I understand it exists and I know it's because of the Enemy's influence, but LOGICALLY I've never understood it. The amount of vitriol at such a tiny minority is baffling, from a human perspective. Which is a good example showing that we don't struggle against flesh and blood.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at June 08, 2023 03:53 PM (N1DT3)

242 Maybe you buy into all that, and I wouldn't be slightly surprised. Zelensky and all those who serve his greedy, evil interests are the real enemy. Full stop.

Posted by: trev006 at June 08, 2023 03:50 PM (ZyRtd)

By using a Hebrew word for pro-Israel diplomacy you link all of the malevolent interests to Israel, and by extension, the Jews.

Obfuscate all you want, but that is called anti-Semitism. And that's what you are, so f*ck off.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 08, 2023 03:53 PM (ZCCyW)

243
Mike Pence says we're not doing enough for Ukraine.

Well then: lace up your boots, pick up your rifle, put on a helmet and get in the fight, Soldier!
Posted by: garrett at June 08, 2023 03:32 PM (1SYO0)

One of that cocksucker's kids is a Marine pilot, should be easy to write up deployment orders for Eastern Europe. Plus, he has two adult daughters of military age who should probably think about serving their country.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 08, 2023 03:54 PM (n+4am)

244 Hasbro-retards?

I would guess that's whoever decided to make Arcee the trans transformer.
Posted by: Methos at June 08, 2023 03:51 PM (kOpft)

HAH! Nice. I'd care more about the Transformers, but I haven't paid anything more than meme attention to them since I was ten.

Posted by: trev006 at June 08, 2023 03:54 PM (ZyRtd)

245 Question to the media:

How come photos of the Bush girls doing underage drinking got splashed all over the media but Hunter photos of hookers, crack and a gun aren’t?

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at June 08, 2023 03:54 PM (A2GMZ)

246 Your comments sound insightful, Oldcat, @comment 225.

Posted by: Bach in Black at June 08, 2023 03:54 PM (7ubmG)

247 This cannot be allowed to go on.
Posted by: Ace at 03:14 PM

Absolutely concur Ace.
I didn't fight three wars for this bullsh*t!

Posted by: Diogenes at June 08, 2023 03:54 PM (e4fEA)

248 That was our good friend Archimedes. It was a little weird.
Posted by: ... at June 08, 2023 03:50 PM (YU4yD)

I remember cautioning him about the "Russian Troops Running Away near Bakhmut" kerfluffle about a week before the city fell.

Russia doesn't mind if you come out into open fields to be shelled and bombed instead of doing so in trenches or fortified towns.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 08, 2023 03:54 PM (eoQWY)

249 I don't disagree but I would add: had it not been for Reagan, the USSR would still exist. There is no way -- not ever -- that the Democrats would have ever done anything to upset their commie fellow travelers and graft partners in the USSR. The American left has long had a love affair with Soviet communism, going back 100 years. Right up until 2015.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 08, 2023 03:44 PM (iFTx/)

The Soviet Union was broken and the only thing keeping its hyperinflation from showing was the embargo on imports and the crisis levels of shortages of goods in the market. Once Gorbachev opened to imports to solve the shortages all the money came out of the savings where it got put because there was nothing to buy, the Ruble hyperinflated.
Without opening the market eventually everything would have stopped working and the black market would have taken over. Even the Military was dysfunctional and could barely keep soldiers fed much less keep tanks running.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 08, 2023 03:55 PM (xhaym)

250 As far as I am concerned, Ukraine is just a breakaway province of Greater Moldova.
Posted by: G'rump928(

Poland....which is a small country...
Posted by: runner at June 08, 2023 03:45 PM (j9VvT)

No, Moldova broke away from Transnistria!!!
Posted by: Oldcat at Jun

So... how does Turkey fit into this??

Posted by: runner at June 08, 2023 03:55 PM (j9VvT)

251 Ichabod Crane > Ukraine

Posted by: 7man at June 08, 2023 03:55 PM (qwO6y)

252 This cannot be allowed to go on.

It will go on for as long as I wish it to.

Posted by: Man Upstairs at June 08, 2023 03:55 PM (Angsy)

253 Posted by: trev006 at June 08, 2023 03:53 PM (ZyRtd)

Thanks for the Hebrew lesson.

Now f*ck off with your Jew hate or you will be banned.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 08, 2023 03:55 PM (ZCCyW)

254
Obfuscate all you want, but that is called anti-Semitism. And that's what you are, so f*ck off.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 08, 2023 03:53 PM (ZCCyW)

Shit just got REAL!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 08, 2023 03:56 PM (Zz0t1)

255 It's the 99% of the bad FBI agents who give the 1% a bad name.

Posted by: Bizarro Hannity at June 08, 2023 03:56 PM (aXxgO)

256 The FBI is transitioning to the KGB. It's pronouns can't be written on this blog because the HQ doesn't support cyrilic.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at June 08, 2023 03:56 PM (fKIdX)

257 CNN's New Leaders Announced - One Is Married to a Current Biden Appointee with Deep Clinton Ties

https://tinyurl.com/yeyj9afx

You see, this helps CNN become more middle of the road.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 08, 2023 03:56 PM (to8pj)

258 Come on man. You can do it!

That's all I'm lacking! Well, and all that other stuff

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 08, 2023 03:56 PM (0hOvj)

259
Has anyone mentioned these shenanigans to Christopher Wray?

Also, didn't I hear that he's decided to cave to Comer and produce the FD-1023?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 08, 2023 03:56 PM (lCaJd)

260 I seriously doubt that Russia will do more than permanently secure the Eastern region of Ukraine - extending as far south as Odessa and thereby completely (or nearly so) land-locking Ukraine into a rump-State status.

The Ruskies might take Keeeeve to oust the current rotten regime and further annihilate Ukraine's Nazi infestation; but I doubt Russia would want to permanently hold anything west of the Dnieper River.
Posted by: Bach in Black at June 08, 2023 03:45 PM (7ubmG)

In theory, that would make sense. But constant NATO-funded terrorism would make that impossible. I don't think Russia can afford to stop at the borders of Ukraine, even when they want to.

Posted by: trev006 at June 08, 2023 03:56 PM (ZyRtd)

261 This was/is worthy of a flaming skull.

Posted by: Commander Cobra at June 08, 2023 03:57 PM (a9WJA)

262 Now f*ck off with your Jew hate or you will be banned.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 08, 2023 03:55 PM (ZCCyW)

Just gonna ask one more question, then I'll happily drop this thread. If I called Zelensky a sweaty rat, like Tucker Carlson did, would that be an antisemitic trope?

Posted by: trev006 at June 08, 2023 03:57 PM (ZyRtd)

263 we're not gonna start having riots and shit ???

Posted by: REDACTED at June 08, 2023 03:58 PM (us2H3)

264 I know several otherwise sane young men who get the Judenhass on. They seem to conflate that race with the Communists. As though Leftism wouldn't exist without Jews. It is baffling to me.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 08, 2023 03:58 PM (aD39U)

265 Say, does anyone know when the next election in the Democracy of Ukraine is?

And whether there will be any opposition candidates on the ballot?

Cause everyone knows the bestest democracies have one and only one political party.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 08, 2023 03:58 PM (5EnGD)

266 the Nulands see having an all out war with Russia a way, maybe the only way to hold onto power
Posted by: REDACTED at June 08, 2023 03:50 PM (us2H3)

Without a war the economy will have to resolve all the bad investments made with "free" money, so the Krugman types are all in as well.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 08, 2023 03:58 PM (xhaym)

267 check out Solomia Maievska.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus
.......

She from Saginaw?

Posted by: wth at June 08, 2023 03:58 PM (v0R5T)

268 I understand it exists and I know it's because of the Enemy's influence, but LOGICALLY I've never understood it. The amount of vitriol at such a tiny minority is baffling, from a human perspective. Which is a good example showing that we don't struggle against flesh and blood.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at

———-

Oh come on, just from a LOGIC perspective a tiny minority with huge influence and control over politics, finance and media will always get noticed. If it were Samoans rather than Jews with the clout, it would be Samoans under the microscope.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at June 08, 2023 03:59 PM (A2GMZ)

269 As far as I am concerned, Ukraine is just a breakaway province of Greater Moldova.

So Vigo the Carpathian is the rightful ruler of Ukraine? I think he could take the dick pianist Zelensky in a fight.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 08, 2023 03:59 PM (ZGrMX)

270 in 5 years, Z Boi will be sharing a Cayman Villa with Poroshenko

Posted by: REDACTED at June 08, 2023 04:00 PM (us2H3)

271 DURING PRIDE MONTH?

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 08, 2023 04:00 PM (U+mgI)

272 This is insane. I'm beginning to think we actually are going to be sent to the camps.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 08, 2023 04:00 PM (t/2Uw)

273 Are there any gay glowie dance troops participating in pride?

Posted by: That Northern skulker at June 08, 2023 04:00 PM (RsfRG)

274 69 As far as I am concerned, Ukraine is just a breakaway province of Greater Moldova.

That's how you get bleu cheese. Form the curds and then let them Moldova.

Posted by: I'll see myself out at June 08, 2023 04:00 PM (AiuQB)

275
So Vigo the Carpathian is the rightful ruler of Ukraine? I think he could take the dick pianist Zelensky in a fight.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 08, 2023 03:59 PM (ZGrMX)

There is no Vigo only Zuul.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 08, 2023 04:00 PM (Zz0t1)

276 Your comments sound insightful, Oldcat, @comment 225.
Posted by: Bach in Black at June 08, 2023 03:54 PM (7ubmG)

There's a YT channel and website called The Duran that provides good non MSM information on current events and politics and Economics without much slant that I have seen. I've been following them for long before the Ukr War started and found them a very good source for news.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 08, 2023 04:01 PM (eoQWY)

277 One of my more amusing moments on the internet was when the use Deep State was attempting to pull a color revolution in Israel.

Antisemitic ZH posters (like really antisemitic not people that don't like Soros) didn't know how to take it.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 08, 2023 04:01 PM (lc5cP)

278 As though Leftism wouldn't exist without Jews. It is baffling to me.

I gotta give them credit for pushing communism way more than any other single group, but its hardly a Jewish ideology. Tons of goy commies out there, like oh, EVERY NATION THAT IS COMMUNIST ON EARTH.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 08, 2023 04:01 PM (0hOvj)

279
So Vigo the Carpathian is the rightful ruler of Ukraine? I think he could take the dick pianist Zelensky in a fight.

I suppose it would be whoever the surviving "Rurik" is. He's the guy that set up Kievan Rus which later more or less became Russia.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 08, 2023 04:02 PM (lc5cP)

280 Samoans under the microscope.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at June 08, 2023 03:59 PM (A2GMZ)

But there is no "Protocols of the elders of Tahiti".

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at June 08, 2023 04:02 PM (rEj6D)

281 Posted by: trev006 at June 08, 2023 03:57 PM (ZyRtd)

You are less clever than you think you are.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 08, 2023 04:02 PM (ZCCyW)

282 Are there any gay glowie dance troops participating in pride?
Posted by: That Northern skulker at June 08, 2023 04:00 PM (RsfRG)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2ecasPqhgk

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at June 08, 2023 04:03 PM (fxrF8)

283 "Jew hate is one of the things I don't understand."

Lets not mention the demographic most violent attacks on Jews come from.

Posted by: JmT at June 08, 2023 04:03 PM (ucixH)

284 281 Posted by: trev006 at June 08, 2023 03:57 PM (ZyRtd)

You are less clever than you think you are.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 08, 2023 04:02 PM (ZCCyW)

But more clever than CBD thinks.

So, you know, average clever.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at June 08, 2023 04:03 PM (KbCG3)

285 280 Samoans under the microscope.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at June 08, 2023 03:59 PM (A2GMZ)

But there is no "Protocols of the elders of Tahiti".

that you know of

Posted by: anachronda at June 08, 2023 04:03 PM (oY6Yp)

286 Burn it to the ground
Scatter the stones
Salt the Earth
Nuke from orbit to be sure.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 08, 2023 04:03 PM (7HqqU)

287 Oh come on, just from a LOGIC perspective a tiny minority with huge influence and control over politics, finance and media will always get noticed. If it were Samoans rather than Jews with the clout, it would be Samoans under the microscope.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at June 08, 2023 03:59 PM (A2GMZ)

In one of Sowell's books he notes that other minorities get similar treatment in other countries - expat Chinese in SE Asia, Armenians, Indians in Africa. Clannish minority that comes in and outhustles natives, gets resented.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 08, 2023 04:04 PM (eoQWY)

288 it would be Samoans under the microscope.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at June 08, 2023 03:59 PM (A2GMZ)

I would love to see you try to fit a Samoan under a microscope. Clearly, you've never met one.

Posted by: Peaches at June 08, 2023 04:04 PM (14URa)

289 that you know of

Posted by: anachronda at June 08, 2023 04:03 PM (oY6Yp)

true enough

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at June 08, 2023 04:04 PM (rEj6D)

290 >>Also, didn't I hear that he's decided to cave to Comer and produce the FD-1023?

Yes, he did cave and yes he did produce them for the entire Oversight Committee. Reps like MTG who saw the document for the first time today are already calling for Biden's impeachment because they show Joe and Hunter, not just Hunter, each took at least $5 million bribes to change US policy toward Burisma.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 08, 2023 04:04 PM (ZLI7S)

291 But more clever than CBD thinks.

So, you know, average clever.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at June 08, 2023 04:03 PM (KbCG3)

Heh. I'll take it.

Posted by: trev006 at June 08, 2023 04:04 PM (ZyRtd)

292 >> "Jew hate is one of the things I don't understand."

Allow me to help you on your journey.

Posted by: Chuck Schumer at June 08, 2023 04:05 PM (1SYO0)

293 Ward, I think you were a little hard on the clever last night.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 08, 2023 04:05 PM (Zz0t1)

294 "While we appreciate your inquiry, as a matter of practice we do not confirm, deny, or otherwise comment on specific interactions nor confirm the veracity of correspondence," an FBI spokesperson wrote.
........

Shorter version: "Shut up prole, see you at 3:00am."

Posted by: wth at June 08, 2023 04:05 PM (v0R5T)

295 As far as I am concerned, Ukraine is just a breakaway province of Greater Moldova.
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Moldova sucks!!!

Posted by: Marvin Boggs at June 08, 2023 04:05 PM (fxrF8)

296 Who had the US being a vassal state of Ukraine on their bingo card?

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at June 08, 2023 04:06 PM (oWBc3)

297 Samoans under the microscope.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at June 08, 2023 03:59 PM (A2GMZ)

You're gonna need a bigger microscope.

Posted by: I mean, they're just big people. at June 08, 2023 04:06 PM (AiuQB)

298 The hell with Illinois Nazis, it's the damn Ukrainian Nazis you have to watch out for.

Posted by: Archer at June 08, 2023 04:06 PM (gmo/4)

299 I just hate midgets.

Posted by: eleven at June 08, 2023 04:06 PM (iziT8)

300 BREAKING: Joe Biden to get his 'mick' removed so as to become the first trans woman POTUS

Posted by: SMOD at June 08, 2023 04:06 PM (RHGPo)

301 Oldcat @ comment 276,

I discovered The Duran a couple of months after Russia began the SMO. Mercouris and Christofouru are invaluable resources in understanding this conflict.

So too is Brian Berlectic.

Larry Johnson turned me on to Gonzolo Lyra (sp?), who pointed out all these other great resources.

Posted by: Bach in Black at June 08, 2023 04:06 PM (7ubmG)

302 Wonder if I am still getting hate comments on my old blog movie review of RED with the title 'Moldova Sucks!'

Probably.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 08, 2023 04:07 PM (7HqqU)

303 Oh, and Gateway Pundit turned me on to Larry Johnson.

Posted by: Bach in Black at June 08, 2023 04:07 PM (7ubmG)

304 I'm delaying my travel to Minsk.

Posted by: Rochelle Rochelle at June 08, 2023 04:07 PM (Xtll8)

305 There's no question Biden has done impeachable acts, but the Pelosi house so besmirched and trivialized impeachment that it doesn't really mean anything any more.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 08, 2023 04:07 PM (0hOvj)

306 But there is no "Protocols of the elders of Tahiti".

that you know of
Posted by: anachronda at June 08, 2023 04:03 PM (oY6Yp)

Protocol 1: Relax, bruddah.

...

That's all of them.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 08, 2023 04:07 PM (9UlRk)

307 Chuck Ross of The Washington Free Beacon reported 6/7, "SPLC Researcher Who Labeled 'Moms for Liberty' a Hate Group Met Biden National Security Officials." The meeting was 1/6/23, the SPLC Researcher, Susan Corke, the director of the SPLC's Intelligence Project. SPLC wrote Corke previously served at the German Marshall Plan as a senior fellow & executive director of the bipartisan Transatlantic Democracy Working Group, and was also a former State Department official.

Oct. '15, Human Rights First announced she joined that org. & "As Director of Programs for Europe, Eurasia, and Southeast Asia at Freedom House, Corke pursued a Eurasia-wide strategy for enabling civil society groups to combat the spread of the “Russia model”—policies that fan the flames of intolerance, antisemitism, extremism, and homophobia crushing civil liberties, restricting religious freedom, and cutting off freedom of information and replacing it with propaganda." (With the State Dept.) "...she promoted human rights and democratic reform in some of the most repressive countries in Eastern Europe—Russia, Azerbaijan, and Belarus."
--
Ten commitments to save democracy, Brookings, Podcast of 12/10/21

Posted by: Lola - ALL the 1/6 videotapes from Jade, too. at June 08, 2023 04:08 PM (GshMh)

308 because . . . . The Dumbest Merc in Night City

https://youtu.be/5hSCAX44UPY

Posted by: Kindltot at June 08, 2023 04:08 PM (xhaym)

309 There's no question Biden has done impeachable acts, but the Pelosi house so besmirched and trivialized impeachment that it doesn't really mean anything any more.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 08, 2023 04:07 PM (0hOvj)

Wow, how lucky for them.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 08, 2023 04:08 PM (9UlRk)

310 In one of Sowell's books he notes that other minorities get similar treatment in other countries - expat Chinese in SE Asia, Armenians, Indians in Africa. Clannish minority that comes in and outhustles natives, gets resented.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 08, 2023 04:04 PM (eoQWY)

Absolutely. The British in particular were masters of this strategy, even more so than the Romans, and until you understand basic colonial theory most of modern politics won't make sense.

Posted by: trev006 at June 08, 2023 04:08 PM (ZyRtd)

311 Samoans were great until the Girl Scouts went woke.

Posted by: Archer at June 08, 2023 04:08 PM (gmo/4)

312 I have it on good authority from my bed-pal, Franklin Luntz, that every Republican wants us to fight the war in Ukraine like it was WW2.

That's why I endorse Joe Biden for President, with Mike Pence as his SoS.

Posted by: Cocaine Mitch at June 08, 2023 04:09 PM (PJaTp)

313 The Armenians seem to pretty widely despised in their home region. None of the other Caucasian peoples — even the Georgians, their fellow Christians — seem to like them very much.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 08, 2023 04:09 PM (8mdkL)

314 I doubt seriously that there are any anti semites on this blog

just as there are probably no racists

only really stupid people truck where there is no profit

I love everyone, just like everyone here

except the asshoe and he knows who he is

Posted by: REDACTED at June 08, 2023 04:09 PM (us2H3)

315 Ten commitments to save democracy, Brookings, Podcast of 12/10/21

Posted by: Lola - ALL the 1/6 videotapes from Jade, too. at June 08, 2023 04:08 PM (GshMh)

It isn't Russians that are persecuting and jailing Eastern Orthodox priests and monks.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 08, 2023 04:09 PM (eoQWY)

316 because . . . . The Dumbest Merc in Night City

https://youtu.be/5hSCAX44UPY
Posted by: Kindltot at June 08, 2023 04:08 PM (xhaym)

You know, his "heist" is actually less idiotic than the one attempted in-game, so the video title is mildly false advertising.

Posted by: trev006 at June 08, 2023 04:10 PM (ZyRtd)

317 I have it on good authority from my bed-pal, Franklin Luntz, that every Republican wants us to fight the war in Ukraine like it was WW2.

That's why I endorse Joe Biden for President, with Mike Pence as his SoS.
Posted by: Cocaine Mitch at June 08, 2023 04:09 PM (PJaTp)

You mean stay out until the Japanese bomb Hawaii? Works for me.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 08, 2023 04:10 PM (eoQWY)

318 Burn it to the ground
Scatter the stones
Salt the Earth
Nuke from orbit to be sure.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 08, 2023 04:03 PM

Your proposal is acceptable.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 08, 2023 04:10 PM (Wnv9h)

319 "Look her up. Katerina Soria."

If she didn't have those over inflated knockers, she would be just another average person in a average world.

meh.....

Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80. at June 08, 2023 04:10 PM (89Sog)

320 except the asshoe and he knows who he is

If Cake Girl would love me, I would be a better man!

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 08, 2023 04:11 PM (0hOvj)

321 Execs at OneTaste, SF ‘orgasmic meditation’ startup, indicted by feds

Leaders at OneTaste, the once-celebrated and celebrity-endorsed “orgasmic meditation” startup founded in San Francisco, now face conspiracy charges connected to treatment that officials allege was sexual and psychological abuse and intimidation against OneTaste's clients, many of whom had come to the startup to heal from sexual trauma.

Posted by: SMOD at June 08, 2023 04:11 PM (RHGPo)

322 I understand it exists and I know it's because of the Enemy's influence, but LOGICALLY I've never understood it.

From an historical perspective it's pretty unremarkable. Christianity springs out of Judaism, and there's no disputes more bitter than those among family. Christianity eventually becomes the state religion and later various forms of it become state religions, with the result that the Jews are formally on the outside looking into the society's they live in. Because of theories like divine right kingship, anong other things, people outside the state religion are viewed as suspect. By the time the role and influence of Christianity is diminished, the prejudices are just baked into society without regard to their origin. And people seldom need much excuse to dislike or distrust others anyway. That's all halfbaked thumbnail history. But I think the gist is right. Add in that the Jews are on average successful, which is additional resentment fuel. TL;DR: Hating the Jews is well-established tradition at this point. People being rational enough to rethink the tradition is more remarkable than the tradition; probably would not have had that happen but for the Holocaust.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at June 08, 2023 04:11 PM (ppBhU)

323 The Armenians seem to pretty widely despised in their home region. None of the other Caucasian peoples — even the Georgians, their fellow Christians — seem to like them very much.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 08, 2023 04:09 PM (8mdkL)

There are entire empires of peoples who no longer exist that hated the Armenians.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 08, 2023 04:11 PM (9UlRk)

324 Harry Callahan: Hypothetical situation, huh? All right, I'm standing on the street corner, and Mrs. Grey there comes up and propositions me. She says if I come home with her, for $5 she'll put on an exhibition with a Shetland pony...
Mrs. Grey: If this is your idea of humor, Inspector...
Lt. Dobbs: All right, what are you trying to do here, Callahan?
Harry Callahan: I'm just trying to find out if anybody in this room knows what the hell law is being broken, besides cruelty to animals.
Kate Moore: That's a conspiracy under title 7, Section 182, Paragraph 1 of the California Penal Code. A conspiracy to commit a misdemeanor is in fact a felony, and according to People vs That's a conspiracy under title 7, Section 182, Paragraph 1 of the California Penal Code. A conspiracy to commit a misdemeanor is in fact a felony, and according to People vs Basso...

Posted by: SMOD at June 08, 2023 04:11 PM (RHGPo)

325 The moai of Easter Island are the ones who really run things in the Pacific.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 08, 2023 04:11 PM (8mdkL)

326 It really would be easy. Just cut their budget by half, and refuse to give in.

Of course, that would take balls, so never mind. I guess we just keep paying for them.

Posted by: Eeyore at June 08, 2023 04:11 PM (brAQZ)

327 "except the asshoe and he knows who he is"

This is about me, isn't it?

Posted by: eleven at June 08, 2023 04:11 PM (iziT8)

328 179 Hey, where's the commenter who was accusing people of disloyalty to Ukraine this morning? LOL.
_____

The @GOP should clarify that there is no pledge to support a nominee if they are disloyal to Ukraine

Posted by: Asa Hutchinson (R-WMT) at June 08, 2023 04:12 PM (fs1hN)

329 Don't I remember us discussing this about a month and a half to two months ago, maybe on the morning thread?

Or is this another different instance (which wouldn't surprise me)?

Posted by: Join Moron Robbie in Celebrating Groomer Awareness and Uke Hating Month! It's a bash! at June 08, 2023 04:12 PM (F9ExA)

330 I read an interview with a Ukrainian official who explained that Ukraine was using the FBI to combat "disinformation".

"Disinformation" was anything that made Ukraine look bad - it didn't matter if it was true or not.

Posted by: A Provocative Parade Of Perverts! at June 08, 2023 04:12 PM (2tUFv)

331 It's Uke Hating Month, btw!

Posted by: Join Moron Robbie in Celebrating Groomer Awareness and Uke Hating Month! It's a bash! at June 08, 2023 04:12 PM (F9ExA)

332 I always preferred Thin Mints over Samoans.

Posted by: wth at June 08, 2023 04:12 PM (v0R5T)

333 Execs at OneTaste, SF ‘orgasmic meditation’ startup, indicted by feds

I saw a documentary on these grifting perverts. Interesting. And crazy as hell.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at June 08, 2023 04:12 PM (ppBhU)

334 Leaders at OneTaste, the once-celebrated and celebrity-endorsed “orgasmic meditation” startup founded in San Francisco, now face conspiracy charges connected to treatment that officials allege was sexual and psychological abuse and intimidation against OneTaste's clients, many of whom had come to the startup to heal from sexual trauma.

Who the hell sees "orgasmic meditation" and doesn't immediately think "sex scam"?

Posted by: Ian S. at June 08, 2023 04:13 PM (ZGrMX)

335 Unfortunately they already claimed the Nazi flag, so...

Posted by: Join Moron Robbie in Celebrating Groomer Awareness and Uke Hating Month! It's a bash! at June 08, 2023 04:13 PM (F9ExA)

336 Harry Callahan: Hypothetical situation, huh? All right, I'm standing on the street corner, and Mrs. Grey there comes up and propositions me.

That is one of my favorite Dirty Harry scenes of all time. Its probably the longest section of dialog for him in all the movies as well.

And it was great character building: Tyne Daley proved she wasn't just a clerk with a pretty face.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 08, 2023 04:13 PM (0hOvj)

337 Now I want to go to Tahiti.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 08, 2023 04:13 PM (t/2Uw)

338 It has been a decade or so since I had any Girl Scout cookies, but it seemed like they weren't as good as they used to be -- and were smaller.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 08, 2023 04:13 PM (0hOvj)

339 313 The Armenians seem to pretty widely despised in their home region. None of the other Caucasian peoples — even the Georgians, their fellow Christians — seem to like them very much.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 08, 2023 04:09 PM (8mdkL)
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Have you SEEN the Kardashians? Who could blame everyone?

Posted by: ballistic at June 08, 2023 04:14 PM (oXNqT)

340 I always preferred Thin Mints over Samoans.
Posted by: wth at June 08, 2023 04:12 PM (v0R5T)

I always liked you wth.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 08, 2023 04:14 PM (eoQWY)

341 "Disinformation" was anything that made Ukraine look bad - it didn't matter if it was true or not.

In the US, "disinformation" is anything that makes the Deep State look bad, so at least it's consistent.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 08, 2023 04:14 PM (ZGrMX)

342 You won't even defend our borders, so go f*ck yourself if you want us to defend someone else's.

Posted by: Join Moron Robbie in Celebrating Groomer Awareness and Uke Hating Month! It's a bash! at June 08, 2023 04:14 PM (F9ExA)

343 This is insane. I'm beginning to think we actually are going to be sent to the camps.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprent

We can ask the FBI operatives at the next Moron Meetup.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at June 08, 2023 04:14 PM (hnbEO)

344 because . . . . The Dumbest Merc in Night City

https://youtu.be/5hSCAX44UPY
Posted by: Kindltot at June 08, 2023 04:08 PM (xhaym)

I know it's bad form to comment twice on the same post, but if this is not art, then art is the poorer.

Posted by: trev006 at June 08, 2023 04:14 PM (ZyRtd)

345 The Armenians seem to pretty widely despised in their home region. None of the other Caucasian peoples — even the Georgians, their fellow Christians — seem to like them very much.

Every people in the Caucasus despises every other people in the Caucasus.

Posted by: A Provocative Parade Of Perverts! at June 08, 2023 04:14 PM (2tUFv)

346 Have you SEEN the Kardashians? Who could blame everyone?
Posted by: ballistic at June 08, 2023 04:14 PM (oXNqT)

Note that the Armenians have her parked well away from Armenia.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 08, 2023 04:14 PM (eoQWY)

347 306 But there is no "Protocols of the elders of Tahiti".

that you know of
Posted by: anachronda at June 08, 2023 04:03 PM (oY6Yp)

They use blood of goy to make their poi.

Posted by: Starch libel! at June 08, 2023 04:14 PM (AiuQB)

348 Posted by: SMOD at June 08, 2023 04:11 PM (RHGPo)

I'm pretty sure I saw that on an old Law & Order:SVU the other night.

Posted by: Peaches at June 08, 2023 04:15 PM (14URa)

349 I always preferred Thin Mints over Samoans.
Posted by: wth at June 08, 2023 04:12 PM (v0R5T)

That is the correct choice.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 08, 2023 04:15 PM (ZGrMX)

350
Now I want to go to Tahiti.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 08, 2023 04:13 PM

Don't forget your brushes.

Posted by: Zombie Paul Gauguin at June 08, 2023 04:15 PM (enJYY)

351 Just wait until American troops are sent to Ukraine.

The plan is to send troops from Poland and the Baltics first - the rest of NATO will follow later.

Posted by: A Provocative Parade Of Perverts! at June 08, 2023 04:15 PM (2tUFv)

352 Every people in the Caucasus despises every other people in the Caucasus.

Yeah its spread pretty widely around there, down into Turkey, Albania, up to the former Yugoslav republics, Romania, Bulgaria, etc. They all seem to despise each other, sometimes to the knife.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 08, 2023 04:15 PM (0hOvj)

353 Oh, and I need a bottom bunk because I'm afraid of heights.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 08, 2023 04:16 PM (t/2Uw)

354 r, Susan Corke, the director of the SPLC's Intelligence Project. SPLC wrote Corke previously served at the German Marshall Plan as a senior fellow
_____

If the "German Marshall Plan" really still exists as an organization, it needs to be shut down. It successfully completed its mission years ago, no?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 08, 2023 04:16 PM (fs1hN)

355 Just wait until American troops are sent to Ukraine

Well, more troops. We already have "advisors" on the ground, along with the Brits, Germans, etc.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 08, 2023 04:16 PM (0hOvj)

356 319 Dude, are nuts? Katerina Soria also has fantastic legs. And she’s a ginger.

Jeesh, all the guys around are turning into TJM with his “would not bang” malarkey all of a sudden.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 08, 2023 04:16 PM (8mdkL)

357 Every people in the Caucasus despises every other people in the Caucasus.
Posted by: A Provocative Parade Of Perverts! at June 08, 2023 04:14 PM (2tUFv)

yes every mountain valley in that area had independent rulers that either wanted lowlanders kept the hell out or expelled lowlanders who wanted to reconquer their lowland empire someday.

Then for variety Steppe tribes would sweep through on the way to invading areas south.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 08, 2023 04:16 PM (eoQWY)

358 Samoans were great until the Girl Scouts went woke.
Posted by: Archer at June 08, 2023 04:08 PM (gmo/4)

silly man, the best cookies were the Somozas and they were displaced by the Sandinos

Posted by: Kindltot at June 08, 2023 04:17 PM (xhaym)

359 Jeepers. Y'all are waaaaay too amped up.

Please, have some tea.

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 08, 2023 04:17 PM (gVbFl)

360 Ukraine is fighting our enemy we must help them
Do you think Putin will stop if he takes Ukraine?
All the Europeans are supporting Ukraine, should we abandon them?
Ace made his bones supporting the stupid Iraq and Afghanistan wars. But against Russia? NYET !

Posted by: Paul at June 08, 2023 04:17 PM (j+Gks)

361 If Cake Girl would love me, I would be a better man!

Posted by: Christopher Taylor

Yeah, about that.

https://9gag.com/gag/aVb2O3v

Posted by: Brother Tim sez Max Headroom for President! at June 08, 2023 04:17 PM (OUMaO)

362 319 Dude, are nuts? Katerina Soria also has fantastic legs. And she’s a ginger.

Jeesh, all the guys around are turning into TJM with his “would not bang” malarkey all of a sudden.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 08, 2023 04:16 PM (8mdkL)

Haven't heard the pointy elbows critique yet.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 08, 2023 04:17 PM (eoQWY)

363 Told a few times in the we hours before DJT was confirmed President elect I layer awake thinking what a Hildabeast President would be like, camps opening, Global Warming would be a daily ritual and crimes if against it.
We are going to that with Sundowner's Coup d'etat

Posted by: Skip at June 08, 2023 04:17 PM (xhxe8)

364 353 Oh, and I need a bottom bunk because I'm afraid of heights.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 08, 2023 04:16 PM (t/2Uw)

Lice or non-lice section?

Just kidding, they're all in the lice section!

Posted by: Happy Fun Kamp Kommandant at June 08, 2023 04:17 PM (AiuQB)

365 Jeepers. Y'all are waaaaay too amped up.

Please, have some tea.

Posted by: nurse ratched

Skip the tea, this crowd needs edibles, post-haste.

Posted by: Brother Tim sez Max Headroom for President! at June 08, 2023 04:18 PM (OUMaO)

366 Hi Nurse.
Me, I'm just having fun. Wish I had a glass of wine.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 08, 2023 04:18 PM (t/2Uw)

367 Gosh, I wonder what long time reader rarely comments Jason has to say about this?

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at June 08, 2023 04:18 PM (2YtOq)

368 This is insane. I'm beginning to think we actually are going to be sent to the camps.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's

--

Don't be silly. So long as you disavow any loyalties to your Russian masters and agree to let them be in control of what you think and say, no one needs to go to any camp. Well, 90% of people don't. There will be some that need to be examples.

Posted by: Join Moron Robbie in Celebrating Groomer Awareness and Uke Hating Month! It's a bash! at June 08, 2023 04:18 PM (F9ExA)

369 Jeesh, all the guys around are turning into TJM with his “would not bang” malarkey all of a sudden.

He has to say that stuff, his wife is sitting next to him

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 08, 2023 04:19 PM (0hOvj)

370 The first time I visited Russia, I got into a cab at the Moscow airport with a cab driver from Georgia.

During the brief cab ride, he explained (in Russian) that he preferred living in Georgia, but the money was better in Moscow, and that he hated Jews and Armenians.

Posted by: A Provocative Parade Of Perverts! at June 08, 2023 04:19 PM (2tUFv)

371 Do you think Putin will stop if he takes Ukraine?

--

You do realize we're the empire that's expanding and encroaching and putting bioweapons labs on HIS border, right?

Posted by: Join Moron Robbie in Celebrating Groomer Awareness and Uke Hating Month! It's a bash! at June 08, 2023 04:19 PM (F9ExA)

372 Ukraine is fighting our enemy we must help them
Do you think Putin will stop if he takes Ukraine?
All the Europeans are supporting Ukraine, should we abandon them?
Ace made his bones supporting the stupid Iraq and Afghanistan wars. But against Russia? NYET !
Posted by: Paul at June 08, 2023 04:17 PM (j+Gks)

You keep naming reasons to NOT support Ukraine, Paul.

There's a whole host of EU-crats I wouldn't mind raising wheat and cows instead of screwing up Europe.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 08, 2023 04:19 PM (eoQWY)

373 This is insane. I'm beginning to think we actually are going to be sent to the camps.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's

We'll tear each other to shreds before even thinking of fighting the enemy.

Me, I'm just trying to make the best of things until the inevitable at this stage.

Posted by: Brother Tim sez Max Headroom for President! at June 08, 2023 04:20 PM (OUMaO)

374 next week is the US open

Posted by: REDACTED at June 08, 2023 04:20 PM (us2H3)

375 We are being ruled by a Ruling Class of outright traitors (and thieves; don't forget the bribes).

This cannot be allowed to go on.

It has been better for my mental health if I assume everything that I read or hear without any evidence to be a lie. The political class, healthcare industry, LE/Intelligence agencies, etc. all have been lying their asses off and as they continue to lose credibility with people, they have only themselves to blame. But they never will.

I have changed the Reagan doctrine to: "Never trust until verified".

Posted by: Cheri at June 08, 2023 04:20 PM (oiNtH)

376 Now I want to go to Tahiti.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 08, 2023 04:13 PM (t/2Uw)

You'll never get the bread fruit to Jamaica

Posted by: Archer at June 08, 2023 04:20 PM (gmo/4)

377 The hell with Illinois Nazis, it's the damn Ukrainian Nazis you have to watch out for.

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You must admit, Ukes been Nazis a lot longer than Illinois Nazis.

Posted by: runner at June 08, 2023 04:21 PM (j9VvT)

378 If Cake Girl would love me, I would be a better man!

Posted by: Christopher Taylor

Yeah, about that.

https://9gag.com/gag/aVb2O3v
Posted by: Brother Tim sez Max Headroom for President! at June 08, 2023 04:17 PM (OUMaO)

She looks happy, and happy ladies are lovely.

Grats to her.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 08, 2023 04:21 PM (eoQWY)

379 It's Prolapse Paul.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 08, 2023 04:21 PM (/4gV6)

380
next week is the US open

Posted by: REDACTED at June 08, 2023 04:20 PM

Every week the US should be open. It's engraved on the statute of liberty!

Posted by: Karen CheChe at June 08, 2023 04:22 PM (enJYY)

381 Or should i say Ilinoisans?

Posted by: runner at June 08, 2023 04:22 PM (j9VvT)

382 Ukraine is fighting our enemy we must help them
--

Also I like this part.

Russia was awesome up through the 90s or so, and then that rascally Putin stopped American gays from adopting and molesting Russian children and now y'all are ready to have a nuclear war with him.

Posted by: Join Moron Robbie in Celebrating Groomer Awareness and Uke Hating Month! It's a bash! at June 08, 2023 04:22 PM (F9ExA)

383 next week is the US open
Posted by: REDACTED

Every week is the US Open.
Posted by: El Paso

Posted by: rickb223 at June 08, 2023 04:22 PM (1x9G1)

384 Just wait until American troops are sent to Ukraine
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That was always the plan.
Anyone who said we were just going to fund the war was a liar and they knew it.
There was never a path to victory for Ukraine without dead America boys lining the way.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 08, 2023 04:22 PM (5EnGD)

385 The erosion of American began under Wilson, was institutionalized under FDR, picked up steam in the 1960s, festered until Hope and Change came along. At that point the Uniparty Fascist-Marxist Insurgency began in earnest and with the arrival of Biden at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue it went from steadily to suddenly. To be clear the FBI was protecting the interests of a foreign power's secret police at the expense of American citizen's constitutionally protected rights. Fuck the FBI, Fuck the Uniparty, and Fuck the Ukrainians. I once sympathized with the plight of the Ukrainians being invaded by the Russians, never once thought is was our fight or in our interests to arm them, and now, after billions spent, we find out the Ukrainians are going after American citizens aided and abetted by the FBI. I say this to the Zelensky, the Uke grift, go to hell and may the last bomb dropped be Russian.

Posted by: Lost In Space at June 08, 2023 04:22 PM (a175k)

386 . What do you call it when you sell out your own country to aid a foreign country? ...
++++
Five Eyes?

I saw the question then wondered if Joe Mannix was on this thread so I typed in 'Five' in the search box.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at June 08, 2023 04:22 PM (YXHzG)

387 The first time I visited Russia, I got into a cab at the Moscow airport with a cab driver from Georgia.
.......

Bet he was glad to get out of Atlanta.

Posted by: wth at June 08, 2023 04:23 PM (v0R5T)

388 @360 Our real enemy is in Washington.

Posted by: Allen at June 08, 2023 04:23 PM (lFLgt)

389 I don't believe anything until an official denial is issued.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at June 08, 2023 04:23 PM (72qIu)

390 Didn't Obama tell Romney in a debate "Hey, the 80's called, they want their foreign policy back".

Obama himself said that Russia is no big deal and laughed about it. Relax.

Posted by: Cheri at June 08, 2023 04:23 PM (oiNtH)

391 To answer the troll's question of whether or not I think Putin will stop with Ukraine:

Yes. I believe he will.

There, we can be done now, right?

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at June 08, 2023 04:23 PM (KbCG3)

392 RUssia is not our enemy. Sadly, because of the Democrats and Neocons, we are Russia's enemy.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 08, 2023 04:24 PM (0hOvj)

393 Or should i say Ilinoisans?
Posted by: runner at June 08, 2023 04:22 PM (j9VvT)

Illinoians it was when I lived there. No S.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 08, 2023 04:24 PM (eoQWY)

394 Jokes made about Steven Segal are rarely funny.

Posted by: Steven Segal at June 08, 2023 04:24 PM (a3Q+t)

395 The hell with Illinois Nazis, it's the damn Ukrainian Nazis you have to watch out for.

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You must admit, Ukes been Nazis a lot longer than Illinois Nazis.

--

"The decision by some Ukrainian soldiers to wear patches with Nazi icons threatens to reinforce Russian propaganda used to justify the invasion."

Not a fake quote. NYT

https://tinyurl.com/25xkx593

Posted by: Join Moron Robbie in Celebrating Groomer Awareness and Uke Hating Month! It's a bash! at June 08, 2023 04:24 PM (F9ExA)

396 You do realize we're the empire that's expanding and encroaching and putting bioweapons labs on HIS border, right?
Posted by: Join Moron Robbie in Celebrating Groomer Awareness and Uke Hating Month! It's a bash! at June 08, 2023 04:19 PM (F9ExA)

Saying things like that will get you on Ukrainian Intelligence's Kill List, comrade.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 08, 2023 04:24 PM (xhaym)

397 All the Europeans are supporting Ukraine, should we abandon them?

Posted by: Paul at June 08, 2023 04:17 PM (j+Gks)

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By "support" do you mean changing their Twitter profile pics to add a little blue and yellow flag?

Posted by: Jordan61 at June 08, 2023 04:24 PM (DRSnL)

398 Let's talk about the elephant in the room.

Much of the censorship stuff started during the Trump years. I'm not saying Trump brought this about, but because he had to rely on so many holdovers from Obama, there was all kinds of stuff going on without his knowing.

The truth is that while the Democrats may have a large number of the super rich, lots of folks in the upper middle are still Republicans. If you look at the salaries they are making in the private sector, you quickly see why Republican Administrations suffer from not finding the proper talent to run a government that is just too damn big.

Posted by: SMOD at June 08, 2023 04:25 PM (RHGPo)

399 Do you think Putin will stop if he takes Ukraine?

The Domino Theory rides again!

Posted by: A Provocative Parade Of Perverts! at June 08, 2023 04:25 PM (2tUFv)

400 Just wait until American troops are sent to Ukraine

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American troops have been in Ukraine since last year. Some muckity muck confirmed it.

Also I'm guessing those PATRIOT missiles don't fly themselves, and a two week internet course isn't going to cut it.

Posted by: Join Moron Robbie in Celebrating Groomer Awareness and Uke Hating Month! It's a bash! at June 08, 2023 04:25 PM (F9ExA)

401 Now I want to go to Tahiti.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice)
........

We could probably buy the place with our next omnibus, but then it would just be full of Mexicans.

Posted by: wth at June 08, 2023 04:25 PM (v0R5T)

402 The Steven Segal Paradox:

Every Steven Segal movie is the worst movie ever.

Posted by: eleven at June 08, 2023 04:26 PM (iziT8)

403 We need to start using the criminal law to make sure that our "civil servants" understand that the country they serve is America, not Ukraine.

We'll get right on that.....lol get fucked, pleb

Posted by: Civil Servants in the DOJ and FBI at June 08, 2023 04:26 PM (NCgXW)

404 91 Continued... "Thousands of guests had been invited from around the country for an evening filled with food, games and other activities on the South Lawn. Queen HD the DJ was handling the music, and singer Betty Who was on tap to perform." Posted by: Nova Local at June 08, 2023 03:29

But The White House has entertainers, not freaks or people advocating cruel, unnecessary treatment on/of minor children.

PrideSource, 2/21/23: Betty Who has been a Pride festival staple for years, but only recently did the Sydney-born pop performer (real name Jessica Anne Newham) more boldly lean into her queer identity. She/her

about me: QUEEN HD THE DJ. Musician, Student, and Public Speaker in Baltimore, Maryland. She's Baltimore's #1 Turntablist and will continue to work hard and battle until she is the #1 Female DJ in the world. She/her

Why can't we be friends?

Posted by: Lola - ALL the 1/6 videotapes from Jade, too. at June 08, 2023 04:26 PM (GshMh)

405 So... wait, are we pulling our bases out of western europe? THAT would be 'abandoning' europe.

I kind of think we SHOULD do that. Except for Poland, who is bellying up to the bar.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson Work Laptop at June 08, 2023 04:26 PM (zZu0s)

406 so I typed in 'Five' in the search box.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at June 08, 2023 04:22 PM

This is about me, isn't it?

Posted by: Payton Manning at June 08, 2023 04:26 PM (a3Q+t)

407 I have changed the Reagan doctrine to: "Never trust until verified".

The Bible Says: "Thus saith the LORD; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man,... " (Jeremiah 17:5)

Posted by: Reuben Hick at June 08, 2023 04:26 PM (YXHzG)

408 Jokes made about Steven Segal are rarely funny.
Posted by: Steven Segal at June 08, 2023 04:24 PM (a3Q+t)
.......

except when they're fat jokes.

Posted by: wth at June 08, 2023 04:27 PM (v0R5T)

409 402 The Steven Segal Paradox:

Every Steven Segal movie is the worst movie ever.
Posted by: eleven at June 08, 2023 04:26 PM (iziT

*buzzer*

Under Siege. Cake scene.

*mic drop*

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson Work Laptop at June 08, 2023 04:27 PM (zZu0s)

410 I think Putin has plans to move into other areas, to intimidate and menace them into submission. Russians are paranoid and Putin is Trump-like in his nationalism, if not more so. I don't trust the dude, he's a murderer and a tyrant.

That said... so is Zelenskyyyyy and the othres in government of Ukraine. They literally stopped having elections and are constantly violating basic human rights in Ukraine, in addition to being massively corrupt. He's no better, he just isn't as good at what he does as Putin, and he doesn't seem to really even like Ukraine.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 08, 2023 04:27 PM (0hOvj)

411 407 I have changed the Reagan doctrine to: "Never trust until verified".

The Bible Says: "Thus saith the LORD; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man,... " (Jeremiah 17:5)
Posted by: Reuben Hick at June 08, 2023 04:26 PM (YXHzG)

'I have altered the deal. Pray I don't alter it further.'

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson Work Laptop at June 08, 2023 04:28 PM (zZu0s)

412 "The decision by some Ukrainian soldiers to wear patches with Nazi icons threatens to reinforce Russian propaganda used to justify the invasion."

So does having numerous statues of Bandera and Shukhevych, along with having streets named after them in Ukraine.

Both of them collaborated with the Nazis, and were complicit in genocide against Jews and Poles.

Posted by: A Provocative Parade Of Perverts! at June 08, 2023 04:28 PM (2tUFv)

413 Ace,
nazism has been stoked in ukraine for many years by the US to counter Russian influence. I watched the videos of the soldiers in Mariupal being disrobed and all the nazi tattoos. I don't understand why we continually side with the worst in society.

Posted by: ryukyu at June 08, 2023 04:28 PM (hR0kJ)

414 Just wait until American troops are sent to Ukraine
---
That was always the plan.
Anyone who said we were just going to fund the war was a liar and they knew it.
There was never a path to victory for Ukraine without dead America boys lining the way.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 08, 2023 04:22 PM (5EnGD)

There is no path even with dead Americans. The US Marines are no better than Ukrainians at surviving a shell landing on their heads, and we no longer can project power that far across the world. We have *one* ammunition plant, that blew up recently. We won't have air superiority, we won't be able to supply a large army in country, we have stripped our army of reserves and stocks by shipping them out already.

Luckily, though, the Pentagon seems to be on the more reluctant side of the spectrum in our divided, factional rulers and can probably drag their feet and keep out of it.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 08, 2023 04:28 PM (eoQWY)

415 393 Or should i say Ilinoisans?
Posted by: runner at June 08, 2023 04:22 PM (j9VvT)

Illinoisances.

Posted by: Peaches at June 08, 2023 04:28 PM (14URa)

416 Every Steven Segal movie is the worst movie ever.
Posted by: eleven at June 08, 2023 04:26 PM (iziT

*buzzer*

Under Siege. Cake scene.

*mic drop*
Posted by: Aetius451AD

You do realize that you just outed the fact that you actually watched a Steven Segal movie.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 08, 2023 04:29 PM (t/2Uw)

417 Every Steven Segal movie is the worst movie ever./i]

THe first four are pretty good, then it goes downhill pretty sharply.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 08, 2023 04:29 PM (0hOvj)

418 Disinformation is good.
Misinformation is good....

Posted by: Zombie Gordon Gecko at June 08, 2023 04:29 PM (5FPX4)

419 I am hoping that I can be known as a great writer and actor some day, rather than a sex symbol. - Steven Seagal - Source IMDB

Posted by: Lost In Space at June 08, 2023 04:29 PM (a175k)

420 "Under Siege. Cake scene.

*mic drop*

Posted by: Aetius451AD "

That's cheating.

Posted by: eleven at June 08, 2023 04:29 PM (iziT8)

421 315. It isn't Russians that are persecuting and jailing Eastern Orthodox priests and monks.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 08, 2023 04:09 PM

Correct

Posted by: Lola - ALL the 1/6 videotapes from Jade, too. at June 08, 2023 04:29 PM (GshMh)

422 Will Putin stop with Ukraine?

But I thought the wiley Ukraines had created such a quagmire it was doubtful Russia could take Ukraine. Not to mention that super duper offensive Ukraine is going to launch any day now!

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at June 08, 2023 04:29 PM (2YtOq)

423 The only good thing about the Ukrainian "special military operation" is that the Ukrainians seem to be willing to actually fight this war.

Most of the 'shithole' countries the US has tried to help in the last handful of decades are usually camel-jockey types.

I don't enjoy sending billion after billion, but I'm not really ready to cede all or part of Europe to nostalgic morons in Moscow of Bejing.

Posted by: SMOD at June 08, 2023 04:29 PM (RHGPo)

424 SO WHAT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Trump said Pussy and Cunt when he was President !!!!!!!!

Posted by: Ferd Berfall at June 08, 2023 04:30 PM (20SKS)

425 nazism has been stoked in ukraine for many years by the US to counter Russian influence. I watched the videos of the soldiers in Mariupal being disrobed and all the nazi tattoos. I don't understand why we continually side with the worst in society.
Posted by: ryukyu at June 08, 2023 04:28 PM (hR0kJ)

You have to if you are trying to launch a coup against the actual better parts of society. Then you need to boost them in case the army gets ideas about couping back. Hence the 30 percent Azov units, used for the same reason Hitler used the SS military units, to watch the Army.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 08, 2023 04:30 PM (eoQWY)

426 You do realize that you just outed the fact that you actually watched a Steven Segal movie.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 08, 2023 04:29 PM (t/2Uw)

I only really remember the cake scene. Hmmm, and the weird knife fight with Tommy Lee Jones. Also 'We still have shells for those!' And Segal making a disparaging comment about GB in the every beginning.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson Work Laptop at June 08, 2023 04:30 PM (zZu0s)

427 As long as we don't get in a real war, the Pentagon CN pretend we actually have a military capable of fighting a real war.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 08, 2023 04:30 PM (t/2Uw)

428 Every Steven Segal movie is the worst movie ever.
Posted by: eleven at June 08, 2023 04:26 PM (iziT

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Except for Executive Decision lol

Posted by: ballistic at June 08, 2023 04:30 PM (oXNqT)

429 They literally stopped having elections and are constantly violating basic human rights in Ukraine, in addition to being massively corrupt. He's no better, he just isn't as good at what he does as Putin, and he doesn't seem to really even like Ukraine.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 08, 2023 04:27 PM

Which I would at least understand if Zelensky didn't spend most of his adult life speaking Russian instead of Ukrainian! What a piece of garbage!

Posted by: trev006 at June 08, 2023 04:30 PM (ZyRtd)

430 315. It isn't Russians that are persecuting and jailing Eastern Orthodox priests and monks.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 08, 2023 04:09 PM

.. yeah, but you do persecute and jail those folks who give aid and comfort to the enemy (unless its Jane Fonda)

Posted by: SMOD at June 08, 2023 04:31 PM (RHGPo)

431 The Pentagon can

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 08, 2023 04:31 PM (t/2Uw)

432 Except for Executive Decision lol
Posted by: ballistic at June 08, 2023 04:30 PM (oXNqT)

Hah! 'You will!'

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson Work Laptop at June 08, 2023 04:31 PM (zZu0s)

433 "The Pentagon can
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice)"

Hmm. Needs work.

Posted by: Sammy Davis Jr at June 08, 2023 04:32 PM (iayUP)

434 Every Steven Segal movie is the worst movie ever.
Posted by: eleven at June 08, 2023 04:26 PM (iziT
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especially if you judge them by how fat Steven Segal appears to be in the movie

Posted by: SMOD at June 08, 2023 04:32 PM (RHGPo)

435 This Soviet style monitor and punish dissent makes me love the US/Uke cabal all the more

Posted by: Regular joe at June 08, 2023 04:32 PM (nnp+f)

436 This Soviet style monitor and punish dissent makes me love the US/Uke cabal all the more

We believe you.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 08, 2023 04:33 PM (0hOvj)

437 The problem with a written Constitution is that after awhile it becomes a fetish, and everyone forgets why it was written in the first place.

Posted by: Zek at June 08, 2023 04:34 PM (5FPX4)

438 The thread is getting gamey..

Posted by: tubal at June 08, 2023 04:34 PM (PCK5/)

439 A good, the silly dog toy that was a parody of a Jack Daniels bottle won their case in the supreme court. F Jack Daniels for even trying.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 08, 2023 04:34 PM (0hOvj)

440 Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice)"

Hmm. Needs work.
Posted by: Sammy Davis Jr

I really don't understand autocorrect on my iPad. It typed Italy instead of military and CN for can.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 08, 2023 04:34 PM (t/2Uw)

441 To anyone worried that the US will send in troops to fight in Ukraine, don't worry. This is what DOD officials are worried about:

Top defense and military officials waded into politics on Wednesday, slamming “anti-LGBTQ” legislation at an official Department of Defense Pride Month event at the Pentagon. “LGBTQ plus and other diverse communities are under attack, just because they are different. Hate for hate’s sake,” top DOD civilian official for personnel Gilbert R. Cisneros, Jr. said at the ceremony. “But we must stick together, and we must be prepared to confront any such challenge directly.” Lt. Gen. DeAnna Burt, chief operations officer for the U.S. Space Force, suggested “anti-LGBTQ+” legislation is “dangerous” for service members:

Posted by: Cheri at June 08, 2023 04:34 PM (oiNtH)

442
The Pentagon can
Cause it mixes it with lies
And makes it all sound good.

Posted by: Sammy Davis Jr at June 08, 2023 04:35 PM (iayUP)

443 I think Putin has plans to move into other areas, to intimidate and menace them into submission. Russians are paranoid and Putin is Trump-like in his nationalism, if not more so. I don't trust the dude, he's a murderer and a tyrant.

That said... so is Zelenskyyyyy and the othres in government of Ukraine. They literally stopped having elections and are constantly violating basic human rights in Ukraine, in addition to being massively corrupt. He's no better, he just isn't as good at what he does as Putin, and he doesn't seem to really even like Ukraine.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 08, 2023 04:27 PM (0hOvj)

Russians tend to be paranoid because everyone comes and attacks their asses since the Mongols. Hard to call it a mental disorder since it is true.

Putin spent a decade or more playing ball while the US and EU dicked him around diplomatically. From what he says he's tired of playing and is turning away from Europe and is directing interest economically to China, Central Asia, and India.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 08, 2023 04:35 PM (eoQWY)

444 I love Ukraine.

Posted by: Winston Smith at June 08, 2023 04:35 PM (5FPX4)

445 I really don't understand autocorrect on my iPad. It typed Italy instead of military and CN for can.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 08, 2023 04:34 PM (t/2Uw)

=====

My phone always corrects "said" to "Saif." WTF is up with that?

Posted by: Jordan61 at June 08, 2023 04:35 PM (DRSnL)

446 All the Europeans are supporting Ukraine, should we abandon them?

Posted by: Paul at June 08, 2023 04:17 PM (j+Gks)
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Hell yes. Let them do the running if they want. Why the hell are we supposed to sort out problems in Europe? Do the Europeans sort out any problems in the Western Hemisphere?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 08, 2023 04:36 PM (YqDXo)

447 "I love Ukraine.
Posted by: Winston Smith"

Back atcha sweety!

Posted by: Kraine at June 08, 2023 04:36 PM (iayUP)

448 "This cannot be allowed to go on."

Oh, we've heard that before and yet it goes on and on and on. A revolution will stop it.

Posted by: Ziba at June 08, 2023 04:36 PM (4h9M3)

449 To anyone worried that the US will send in troops to fight in Ukraine, don't worry. This is what DOD officials are worried about:

"Top defense and military officials waded into politics on Wednesday, slamming “anti-LGBTQ” legislation..."

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Ah, but there's the thing. The two are connected. Putin is anti-gay and IIRC has declared that the woke disease will not take hold and destroy his people, hence the need for nuclear war with him.

Posted by: Join Moron Robbie in Celebrating Groomer Awareness and Uke Hating Month! It's a bash! at June 08, 2023 04:37 PM (F9ExA)

450 My brother says he wants to go to Ukraine "to show support". But I think he's really looking for his fifth wife.

Posted by: wth at June 08, 2023 04:37 PM (v0R5T)

451 BTW --- just because I'm a pedantic asshole;

It's auto-complete, not auto-correct.

Posted by: eleven at June 08, 2023 04:37 PM (iziT8)

452 Justice Kavanaugh raped the constitution and liberty of states by declaring Alabama's districting map a violation of the Voting Rights Act.

Which legislation is blatantly unconstitutional to start with.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 08, 2023 04:37 PM (0hOvj)

453 You say
You want a revolution

Well, you know.

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 08, 2023 04:37 PM (a83VZ)

454 315. It isn't Russians that are persecuting and jailing Eastern Orthodox priests and monks.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 08, 2023 04:09 PM

.. yeah, but you do persecute and jail those folks who give aid and comfort to the enemy (unless its Jane Fonda)
Posted by: SMOD at June 08, 2023 04:31 PM (RHGPo)

If you're Ukraine you also persecute and jail civilians who took food aid when occupied by the Russian army. Apparently starving is patriotic.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 08, 2023 04:38 PM (eoQWY)

455 My brother says he wants to go to Ukraine "to show support". But I think he's really looking for his fifth wife.

Won't the other four wives object?

Posted by: A Provocative Parade Of Perverts! at June 08, 2023 04:38 PM (2tUFv)

456 Top defense and military officials waded into politics on Wednesday, slamming “anti-LGBTQ” legislation at an official Department of Defense Pride Month event at the Pentagon. “LGBTQ plus and other diverse communities are under attack, just because they are different. Hate for hate’s sake,” top DOD civilian official for personnel Gilbert R. Cisneros, Jr. said at the ceremony. “But we must stick together, and we must be prepared to confront any such challenge directly.” Lt. Gen. DeAnna Burt, chief operations officer for the U.S. Space Force, suggested “anti-LGBTQ+” legislation is “dangerous” for service members:
Posted by: Cheri at June 08, 2023 04:34 PM (oiNtH)
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So are "we" to assume young DeAnna is a sister of Sappho? Or an ex-male?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 08, 2023 04:38 PM (YqDXo)

457 I love Ukraine.
Posted by: Winston Smith at June 08, 2023 04:35 PM (5FPX4)
........

You can't have it. My company needs it to lift stuff.

Posted by: wth at June 08, 2023 04:38 PM (v0R5T)

458 360 Alright, who is "socking" Paul.

Posted by: Glenn John at June 08, 2023 04:39 PM (RilAR)

459 Posted by: Paul at June 08, 2023 04:17 PM (j+Gks)

Yeah, well Europeans aren't giving them billions in Euros. Yes, we should abandon Ukr to the Europeans.

Posted by: Ziba at June 08, 2023 04:39 PM (4h9M3)

460 Good on the Ukrainians for banning the Russian propagandists.

F. mulitculturalism. They need to start shooting and ethnic cleansing any Russian supporters on their territory.

Maybe they can teach the West a thing or two about how to survive as a culture.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at June 08, 2023 04:39 PM (IB09k)

461 The Bible Says: "Thus saith the LORD; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man,... " (Jeremiah 17:5)
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And, never trusteth a bullfrog.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at June 08, 2023 04:39 PM (lf83v)

462 Just saw a tweet that said MTG just unleashed the kraken on the Biden - Ukraine bribery connection.

Posted by: Diesel Jones, Biologist at June 08, 2023 04:39 PM (Vu7A1)

463 Russia has the paranoia about our government we are coming to know.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at June 08, 2023 04:39 PM (oWBc3)

464 You can do far worse than the Ukraine if you're looking for your fifth wife.

Posted by: eleven at June 08, 2023 04:39 PM (iziT8)

465 I had no idea Pat Robertson was still alive. I mean, he's not now, though.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 08, 2023 04:39 PM (CHHv1)

466 My phone always corrects "said" to "Saif." WTF is up with that?
Posted by: Jordan61

Yes, mine will never type so,etching. See. See. How does something become that?

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 08, 2023 04:40 PM (t/2Uw)

467 Won't the other four wives object?
Posted by: A Provocative Parade Of Perverts!
.......

Touche. OK. He's looking for his fifth ex-wife.

Posted by: wth at June 08, 2023 04:40 PM (v0R5T)

468 It's auto-complete, not auto-correct.
Posted by: eleven at June 08, 2023 04:37 PM (iziT8 )

=====

My understanding is that auto-complete will finish the word after you've typed a few letters. Auto-correct will correct the word after you've typed it all out.

Posted by: Jordan61 at June 08, 2023 04:40 PM (DRSnL)

469 It's irrelevant whether Ukraine asked for the ban or not -- the simple fact is, no federal agency has the constitutional authority to ban any American citizen's speech, full stop.

We need to focus on the main issue here, the normalizing of government-directed speech bans in America. Free speech is a fundamental American value and right. It supersedes and outranks every other right. It is the first one listed in the Bill of Rights.

The camel's nose in the tent is the whole matter of "hate speech" which isn't even a thing, it's a neologism pushed by the anti-American left. We need to reestablish free speech as a fundamental right and value by insisting on it being taught in our schools, mounting ad campaigns, etc.

Posted by: Rusty Trawler at June 08, 2023 04:40 PM (1gif2)

470 You can do far worse than the Ukraine if you're looking for your fifth wife.

Yeah some truly lovely ladies there. Get them before they have drunk and smoked themselves into a babushka though

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 08, 2023 04:40 PM (0hOvj)

471 If you're Ukraine you also persecute and jail civilians who took food aid when occupied by the Russian army. Apparently starving is patriotic.

The rabbi of the one synagogue in Kherson had to flee Ukraine when the Ukrainians retook Kherson, because he let Jewish Russian soldiers pray in the synagogue.

Charges were pending.

Posted by: A Provocative Parade Of Perverts! at June 08, 2023 04:41 PM (2tUFv)

472 You can do far worse than the Ukraine if you're looking for your fifth wife.
Posted by: eleven at June 08, 2023 04:39 PM (iziT

Don't even have to go all the way there, most of the women have lit out for West Europe long ago.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 08, 2023 04:41 PM (eoQWY)

473 Camel Toe >>> Camel Nose

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at June 08, 2023 04:41 PM (lf83v)

474 Trump's breath stinks and he should jailed for this alone !!

Posted by: Dorcus Blimeline at June 08, 2023 04:41 PM (X++p7)

475 You can't have it. My company needs it to lift stuff.
Posted by: wth at June 08, 2023 04:38 PM (v0R5T)

=====

I laughed way too hard at this.

Posted by: Jordan61 at June 08, 2023 04:41 PM (DRSnL)

476 Yeah, about that.

https://9gag.com/gag/aVb2O3v
Posted by: Brother Tim sez Max Headroom for President! at June 08, 2023 04:17 PM

Ryan, you lucky bastard.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 08, 2023 04:41 PM (Wnv9h)

477 "BREAKING: MTG reveals FBI informant reported Biden was bribed to have the Ukrainian prosecutor fired who was investigating Burisma"

https://tinyurl.com/5etbypzp

Posted by: Diesel Jones, Biologist at June 08, 2023 04:42 PM (Vu7A1)

478 It's irrelevant whether Ukraine asked for the ban or not -- the simple fact is, no federal agency has the constitutional authority to ban any American citizen's speech, full stop.

Wilson was so big on it that German language classes were banned in the US. Newspapers would literally get leaned on and people jailed for daring to print anything except the party line.

In my opinion the world would have been saved a great deal of horror and death if Germany had won WWI.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 08, 2023 04:42 PM (0hOvj)

479 Don't even have to go all the way there, most of the women have lit out for West Europe long ago.

OnlyFans has a catalog of them for your perusal and enjoyment.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at June 08, 2023 04:42 PM (YXHzG)

480 Ace made his bones supporting the stupid Iraq and Afghanistan wars. But against Russia? NYET !
Posted by: Paul at June 08, 2023 04:17 PM (j+Gks)
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It'd be cool if Russia went communist again, just to watch all the leftists pushing for war with Russia to spin on their heels and support Russia. Kind of a modern-day Ribbentrop-Molotov Pact situation.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 08, 2023 04:42 PM (YqDXo)

481 "...MTG just unleashed the kraken ..."

She did.
Additionally, she has GAINZZ

Posted by: gourmand du jour at June 08, 2023 04:42 PM (72qIu)

482 F. mulitculturalism. They need to start shooting and ethnic cleansing any Russian supporters on their territory.

Defined as any Russian-speaker in Ukraine, right?

Posted by: There' at June 08, 2023 04:42 PM (2tUFv)

483 Maybe they can teach the West a thing or two about how to survive as a culture.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at June 08, 2023 04:39 PM (IB09k)

Russian Culture IS Ukrainian culture. They've been Russian for 500 years.

It's like the US South rooting out NASCAR and College Football.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 08, 2023 04:43 PM (eoQWY)

484 In my opinion the world would have been saved a great deal of horror and death if Germany had won WWI.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 08, 2023 04:42 PM (0hOvj)

The French film industry is hardy THAT bad.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 08, 2023 04:44 PM (eoQWY)

485 They need to start shooting and ethnic cleansing any Russian supporters on their territory.

Peach it, brother!

Posted by: The Zombie SS Einsatzgruppen! at June 08, 2023 04:44 PM (2tUFv)

486 In my opinion the world would have been saved a great deal of horror and death if Germany had won WWI.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 08, 2023 04:42 PM (0hOvj)
_______________

WWI was basically a squabble between European powers for colonies.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 08, 2023 04:44 PM (YqDXo)

487 485 They need to start shooting and ethnic cleansing any Russian supporters on their territory.

Peach it, brother!
Posted by: The Zombie SS Einsatzgruppen! at June 08, 2023 04:44 PM (2tUFv)

It needed a Heil..

Posted by: tubal at June 08, 2023 04:45 PM (PCK5/)

488 In my opinion the world would have been saved a great deal of horror and death if Germany had won WWI.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 08, 2023 04:42 PM (0hOvj)

We would have spared Hitler.

Posted by: JmT at June 08, 2023 04:45 PM (ucixH)

489 "And, never trusteth a bullfrog.'

This is about me, isn't it?

Posted by: Jeremiah at June 08, 2023 04:45 PM (89Sog)

490 wth's brother is a piker.

Posted by: Solomon at June 08, 2023 04:45 PM (2YtOq)

491 You know who else posted at 4 88!

Posted by: Zek at June 08, 2023 04:45 PM (5FPX4)

492 WWI was basically a squabble between European powers for colonies.
_______

A family squabble between Queen Victoria's relatives.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at June 08, 2023 04:45 PM (lf83v)

493 In my opinion the world would have been saved a great deal of horror and death if Germany had won WWI.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 08, 2023 04:42 PM (0hOvj)

I doubt the Kaiserreich would have been as pleasant as legends suggest. But it likely would not have been as bad as we got.

Posted by: trev006 at June 08, 2023 04:46 PM (ZyRtd)

494 Hell yes. Let them do the running if they want. Why the hell are we supposed to sort out problems in Europe? Do the Europeans sort out any problems in the Western Hemisphere?

Don't you see NATO down at the Southern Border performing the border protection Americans won't do?

Posted by: Reuben Hick at June 08, 2023 04:46 PM (YXHzG)

495 Good on the Ukrainians for banning the Russian propagandists.

F. mulitculturalism. They need to start shooting and ethnic cleansing any Russian supporters on their territory.

Maybe they can teach the West a thing or two about how to survive as a culture.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at June 08, 2023 04:39 PM (IB09k)

You are not concerned you literally sound like hitler?

Posted by: runner at June 08, 2023 04:47 PM (j9VvT)

496 In my opinion the world would have been saved a great deal of horror and death if Germany had won WWI.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 08, 2023 04:42 PM (0hOvj)
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WWI was basically a squabble between European powers for colonies.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 08, 2023 04:44 PM (YqDXo)

To quote Blackadder:

"Baldrick, the British Empire currently covers a quarter of the globe. The German Empire is a few huts in Tanganika. I hardly think we can be innocent on the colonial front"

Posted by: Oldcat at June 08, 2023 04:47 PM (eoQWY)

497 They need to start shooting and ethnic cleansing any Russian supporters on their territory.

Budanov, the head of Ukrainian military intelligence, has made it clear that that's what Ukraine has planned for Crimea.

Posted by: The Zombie SS Einsatzgruppen! at June 08, 2023 04:47 PM (2tUFv)

498 If Germany had won WWI, would there have been a French Hitler eventually?

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at June 08, 2023 04:48 PM (lf83v)

499 We would have been spared Hitler.
Posted by: JmT at June 08, 2023 04:45 PM (ucixH)
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Thank the Frogs for Hitler. If they hadn't - in their infinite diplomatic sophistication - insisted on crushing reparations from Germany, there probably would never have been a Hitler in power.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 08, 2023 04:48 PM (YqDXo)

500 Defined as any Russian-speaker in Ukraine, right?
Posted by: There'

Sure. It is war.

But of course you exaggerate. They banned Russian language schools, but not as a second language. And they did not ban speaking russian.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at June 08, 2023 04:48 PM (IB09k)

501 "FBI seems a bit less explodey"

~This~ time, they're less explodey.

They reserve that for budget request years.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at June 08, 2023 04:49 PM (ou9hh)

502 Now I want to go buy a "Who's your Vladdy" t-shirt at the Serb-fest.

Posted by: DaveA at June 08, 2023 04:49 PM (FhXTo)

503 Paul actually brought up Iraq?

And yet another leftist proves they have the complete inability to learn anything.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at June 08, 2023 04:49 PM (2YtOq)

504 497 They need to start shooting and ethnic cleansing any Russian supporters on their territory.

Budanov, the head of Ukrainian military intelligence, has made it clear that that's what Ukraine has planned for Crimea.
Posted by: The Zombie

Bless him. The Russians did it. Tell them to GTFO. Better hurry cause that bridge may not last.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at June 08, 2023 04:49 PM (IB09k)

505 I mean it's not what I would call an achievement, to post nazi shit.

Posted by: runner at June 08, 2023 04:50 PM (j9VvT)

506 "Budanov, the head of Ukrainian military intelligence, has made it clear that that's what Ukraine has planned for Crimea."

Budi hasn't been see in about 10 days. He probably got icked by a kinzhal.

Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at June 08, 2023 04:50 PM (89Sog)

507 But of course you exaggerate. They banned Russian language schools, but not as a second language. And they did not ban speaking russian.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at June 08, 2023 04:48 PM (IB09k)

They also push some Russians into a building in Odessa and burned it down with them inside during the coup. Just high spirited hijinx I guess.

And of course they've been lobbing artillery into civilian areas of the Donbas ever since 2014 on and off, mostly on.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 08, 2023 04:50 PM (eoQWY)

508 There was the German doctrine of "bleeding the French white."

So it's hard for me to blame the French too much.

Posted by: eleven at June 08, 2023 04:50 PM (iziT8)

509 nood

morans.

Posted by: eleven at June 08, 2023 04:51 PM (iziT8)

510 "Baldrick, the British Empire currently covers a quarter of the globe. The German Empire is a few huts in Tanganika. I hardly think we can be innocent on the colonial front"
Posted by: Oldcat at June 08, 2023 04:47 PM

LT George: Mad as a bicycle...

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 08, 2023 04:51 PM (Wnv9h)

511 Thank the Frogs for Hitler. If they hadn't - in their infinite diplomatic sophistication - insisted on crushing reparations from Germany, there probably would never have been a Hitler in power.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 08, 2023 04:48 PM (YqDXo)

So let's see: the French decided to rub the Germans' nose in shit, saddle them with crushing debt, and then pretty much left them to their own devices. A proud, intelligent, highly disciplined and organized people, left to brood about their treatment. What could go wrong?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 08, 2023 04:51 PM (YqDXo)

512 Maybe there is nice Uke hot air or something?

Posted by: runner at June 08, 2023 04:51 PM (j9VvT)

513 If Germany had won WWI, would there have been a French Hitler eventually?[/i

Un Reich!
Un Peuple!
Une Baguette!

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 08, 2023 04:51 PM (0hOvj)

514 There are 3 horrendous SCOTUS rulings that make tyranny possible. The first was Dred Scott, the second was Korematsu, that legitimized the Internment of Japanese Americans in WWII. The third and most important and odius, was Arver vs United States which upheld the draft, and allowed the government to ignore the 13th amendment prohibition on involuntary servitude. This was the key decision, because it basically said: "Fuck you, we can do whatever we want, despite the clear prohibition in the Constitution, of our actions."

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at June 08, 2023 04:52 PM (CecP5)

515 They need to start shooting and ethnic cleansing any Russian supporters on their territory.

Budanov, the head of Ukrainian military intelligence, has made it clear that that's what Ukraine has planned for Crimea.
Posted by: The Zombie SS Einsatzgruppen! at June 08, 2023 04:47 PM (2tUFv)

When they took over the area of Kherson north of the river in the Fall, that's what they did there for a while, before they were convinced it wasn't a good look.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 08, 2023 04:52 PM (eoQWY)

516 But of course you exaggerate. They banned Russian language schools, but not as a second language. And they did not ban speaking russian.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at June 08, 2023 04:48 PM (IB09k)

You do realize you are backing the extra-judicial murder of civilians because of their language?

Posted by: Kindltot at June 08, 2023 04:52 PM (xhaym)

517 452 Justice Kavanaugh raped the constitution and liberty of states by declaring Alabama's districting map a violation of the Voting Rights Act.

Which legislation is blatantly unconstitutional to start with.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 08, 2023 04:37 PM (0hOvj)

Aren't you glad the conservative movement spent so much treasure and political capital to defend him against the left?

Posted by: Rusty Trawler at June 08, 2023 04:54 PM (1gif2)

518 Budi hasn't been see in about 10 days. He probably got icked by a kinzhal.

I don't think he's been seen since intelligence headquarters in Kiev got hit with a Russian bunker-buster.

Purely coincidentally, the memorial wall at CIA headquarters, which anonymously commemorates CIA agents who have died in the line of duty, acquired a new 140th star a few days after the Kiev attack.

Posted by: A Provocative Parade Of Perverts! at June 08, 2023 04:54 PM (2tUFv)

519 You do realize you are backing the extra-judicial murder of civilians because of their language?
Posted by: Kindltot

Again, an exaggeration. Or maybe I was not clear.
- shoot those who worked as spies against Ukraine.
- Ethnic cleanse those who claim allegiance to Russia, and are ethnic Russian.

The shooting should be judicial, but not UN judicial, military tribunal judicial.

So what you said is not at all what I meant.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at June 08, 2023 05:03 PM (IB09k)

520 Turn in your "Elite" card.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

It's between the Home Depot and Magic the Gathering in his old wallet.

Posted by: DaveA at June 08, 2023 05:05 PM (FhXTo)

521 Committee on oversight actually filed a house contempt resolution against Wray today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNzF_O5kXjk

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at June 08, 2023 05:27 PM (CecP5)

522 Are we sure Ukraine isn’t blackmailing Biden?

Posted by: Allen at June 08, 2023 05:33 PM (POm3u)

523 I think what's been the case from the start, Ukraine and the Ukranian people need to be separated. The Ukrainian people are fighting, and dying in droves, for their freedom and are doing so with full conviction.

On the otherhand the Ukrainian government is sending its people to die, so that they can launder money and get the US to do what they want. I doubt believe the majority of those in the government care about the regions the Russians are taking over, they are just worried about gaining power, even if that is crushing the rights of US citizens.

The next president should do a full accounting if the war, because i think any evidence will show that Zelensky, his handlers, and the US government saw Putin's invasion as an opportunity, and probably did everything in their power to encourage it, while afterwards making sure no peace agreement occurred.

Posted by: Rbastid at June 08, 2023 07:31 PM (6tqY3)

524 It's the press's Dr Strangelove moment.
You can't have freedom of speech here, it's a newsroom!

Posted by: jimmymcnulty at June 08, 2023 08:16 PM (BJgzI)

525 It is that the FBI and DOJ knew all along that Biden took bribes while it was attacking President Trump ( he was President at that time) for his lack of decorum. How many bribes did Kerry take? What about Obama? We already know Clinton took bribes.

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