At the Nord Stream Bomb Site, a Boot Used by US Military Divers Was Discovered. How Did the Official "Investigators" Miss This?

I should point out that this boot is not used exclusively by US Navy divers. It's also used by commercial divers, and by Ukrainian navy divers too, supposedly.

Okay, but: It's suspicious that the "official investigation," being conducted by Sweden, failed to turn this up.

On the evening of May 24, 2023, I stood aboard a small ship called the Baltic Explorer. With sun still high overhead in the Baltic Sea, our boat sat anchored thirty-one nautical miles from the coast of Denmark, and directly above the ruptured Nord Stream 2 pipeline in the exclusive economic zone of Sweden.
For several minutes, I stared at a live video feed from an underwater drone showing never-before-seen footage of the ruptures in the pipeline. Suddenly, a strange object appeared on the screen. It was a black and orange diver's boot.
The Grayzone has identified a model which closely resembles this boot, and is used by both US Navy and commercial divers. Ukrainian Navy divers have also been seen wearing similar boots.
We have also learned that the boot's presence had been previously reported to investigators, yet they have not collected it or divulged its existence.

This article was published a couple of days ago -- and may very well have prompted the CIA to begin leaking that it must have been those Navy Aces of Ukraine that done the deed. It's almost as if when the CIA's first cover story began to unravel, they began pushing their back-up cover story to the compliant state media.

Update, Just in from Jake Tapper: This boot is one of them "conspiracy theories" I keep hearing so much about.

Posted by: Ace at 06:45 PM

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1 Uno!

Posted by: Bacon Jeff at June 07, 2023 06:45 PM (VGRuw)

2 New shelves!

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 07, 2023 06:46 PM (nRMeC)

3 page won't refresh????

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 07, 2023 06:48 PM (Vwz3I)

4 Das Boot?

Posted by: Archer at June 07, 2023 06:48 PM (gmo/4)

5 hahahahaha

I guess Nazi flags don't photograph well underwater.

Posted by: Join Moron Robbie in Celebrating Groomer Awareness Month! It's a bash! at June 07, 2023 06:48 PM (/BX3R)

6 does da boot fit ??

Posted by: REDACTED at June 07, 2023 06:49 PM (us2H3)

7 Das Boot

Posted by: wth at June 07, 2023 06:49 PM (v0R5T)

8 That's odd

I have nooded

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 07, 2023 06:49 PM (Vwz3I)

9 If you find a one-booted man, you'll find your perp.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Detective at June 07, 2023 06:49 PM (PiwSw)

10 How the heck would a diver lose a boot?

Posted by: Bosk at June 07, 2023 06:49 PM (VMFAF)

11 And they would've gotten away with it if it wasn't for those meddling kids!

Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at June 07, 2023 06:49 PM (IQ1rX)

12 Hmmm.... never seen a SEAL who wore a Black and ORANGE dive boot.

I guess it was camouflage for an Orange Orchard?

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 07, 2023 06:50 PM (oHd/0)

13 If the boot don’t fit, you must acquit!

Posted by: Zombie Johnnie Cochran, Asshole Attorney at June 07, 2023 06:50 PM (R/m4+)

14 It was the BOOT!

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 07, 2023 06:50 PM (kUm8P)

15 I guess saying "noodstream" was too sophisticated for the crowd on the ball thread.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 07, 2023 06:50 PM (Vwz3I)

16 10 How the heck would a diver lose a boot?
Posted by: Bosk at June 07, 2023 06:49 PM (VMFAF)

fell out of another diver's ass

Posted by: REDACTED at June 07, 2023 06:50 PM (us2H3)

17 does it say Made In China on the inside?
Then it's American.

Posted by: wth at June 07, 2023 06:50 PM (v0R5T)

18 Hey, does everyone remember when the planes hit the buildings on 9/11 and burst into fireballs capable of dropping three enormous buildings in their own footprints, one building that wasn't even hit and had no significant fuel added and was later confirmed to have collapsed because of burning office furniture, and then a terrorist's passport was found in the rubble?

Good times.

Posted by: Join Moron Robbie in Celebrating Groomer Awareness Month! It's a bash! at June 07, 2023 06:50 PM (/BX3R)

19 Are there Ukrainian naval divers? If so do they really have such boots?

The government is such a lying POS I immediately think the opposite of what they say as more likely being true.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at June 07, 2023 06:51 PM (pWgpB)

20 Those other Morons are really enamored of the ball thread.

Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at June 07, 2023 06:51 PM (IQ1rX)

21 Suddenly, a strange object appeared on the screen. It was a black and orange diver's boot.

Extremely convenient.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 07, 2023 06:51 PM (RnmtJ)

22 How the heck would a diver lose a boot?
Posted by: Bosk at June 07, 2023 06:49 PM (VMFAF)
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I'm wondering the same thing...Unless it was planted by Russian divers?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 07, 2023 06:51 PM (BpYfr)

23 US, Ukraine, and commercial divers use those boots. No one else, anywhere in the world?

My money is on aUS/Ukraine effort regardless, but a boot isn't convincing.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 07, 2023 06:51 PM (OX9vb)

24 I suppose anyone could have dropped that boot there. Were there serial numbers?

Posted by: Kindltot at June 07, 2023 06:51 PM (xhaym)

25 19 Are there Ukrainian naval divers? If so do they really have such boots?

yes and they are spectacular

Posted by: REDACTED at June 07, 2023 06:52 PM (us2H3)

26 Didn't Jason lose a boot?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 07, 2023 06:52 PM (63Dwl)

27 ... how the hell does a diver lose their boot??

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 07, 2023 06:52 PM (0hOvj)

28 16 10 How the heck would a diver lose a boot?
Posted by: Bosk at June 07, 2023 06:49 PM (VMFAF)

fell out of another diver's ass
Posted by: REDACTED at June 07, 2023 06:50 PM (us2H3)

OK, it's my boot.

Posted by: Red Forman at June 07, 2023 06:52 PM (PiwSw)

29 Hmmm.... never seen a SEAL who wore a Black and ORANGE dive boot.

I guess it was camouflage for an Orange Orchard?
Posted by: Romeo13

Orange boot?
It was a sign that Trump was there!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 07, 2023 06:52 PM (yruun)

30 That's pretty sloppy leaving a boot at the scene of the crime, of all things. Sounds suspicious.

Posted by: washrivergal at June 07, 2023 06:52 PM (r2Mtq)

31 How the heck would a diver lose a boot?

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Because we're at the "f*ck you" stage of governance. They're going to show you things like this and the Nazi flag U-Haul guy just to laugh at you.

Posted by: Join Moron Robbie in Celebrating Groomer Awareness Month! It's a bash! at June 07, 2023 06:52 PM (/BX3R)

32 I am Boot.

Posted by: Boot at June 07, 2023 06:53 PM (fiChp)

33 We did it, Biden himself alluded to the matter beforehand.. his porous brain yet again at work..

Posted by: tubal at June 07, 2023 06:53 PM (PCK5/)

34 anyone coulda planted that boot

c'mon man

Posted by: OJ at June 07, 2023 06:53 PM (us2H3)

35 I don't always plant bombs on pipelines, but when I do, I take my shoes off immediately and have a cigar. Sometimes I do this before I even surface

Posted by: Mr. Gorlopis at June 07, 2023 06:53 PM (/Fdqd)

36 Boondockers and dynamite.
Deadly combo

Posted by: Redenzo at June 07, 2023 06:53 PM (V/pbu)

37 Wasn't there a Star Trek movie where they tried to find a crewman missing a boot?

Posted by: Citizen Cake at June 07, 2023 06:53 PM (CwhoI)

38 Could have been planted later.

I don't believe anything reported. It always comes down to:

Cui bono?

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at June 07, 2023 06:53 PM (vg8N1)

39 21 Suddenly, a strange object appeared on the screen. It was a black and orange diver's boot.

Extremely convenient.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 07, 2023 06:51 PM (RnmtJ)

Yeah.... two things make me go... uh... wait...

1. SEALs do not wear ORANGE boots... that would be commercial dive rigs...

2. The only way a boot would be there is if it fell out of the boat when they were done... which may have been WAY after the explosions. Lots of intel agencies have investigated those waters,

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 07, 2023 06:53 PM (oHd/0)

40 You could also leave a boot behind if you wanted to frame somebody.

Posted by: Mark1971 at June 07, 2023 06:53 PM (xPl2J)

41 Update, Just in from Jake Tapper: This boot is one of them "conspiracy theories" I keep hearing so much about.

------------------

They can say whatever they like now that they are back in charge at CNN.

How the mighty have fallen? I remember CNN being the "must see" in 1991 and we watched it in every hotel on our European holiday with the kids. In a similar holiday in 2003 it was Fox News that were the preferred option. These days JJ morning report is my go to for news.

This is what happens when you give your idiot kids the keys to the car.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at June 07, 2023 06:54 PM (3JfbU)

42 This is like an unsolvable problem, inside a riddle that is wrapped in a conspiracy.

Sounds like a job for the Ef Bee Eye to unravel.

Posted by: Czech Chick at June 07, 2023 06:54 PM (6Tc2R)

43 Wearing a boot as a jockstrap?!

That's totally inappropriate. It's lewd, lascivious, salacious, outrageous!

Posted by: zombie jackie chiles at June 07, 2023 06:54 PM (Vwz3I)

44 29 Hmmm.... never seen a SEAL who wore a Black and ORANGE dive boot.

I guess it was camouflage for an Orange Orchard?
Posted by: Romeo13

Orange boot?
It was a sign that Trump was there!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 07, 2023 06:52 PM (yruun)

Orange Boot... Bad?

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 07, 2023 06:55 PM (oHd/0)

45 Love our comments… the Horde does not believe anything from the media now!!

Posted by: tubal at June 07, 2023 06:55 PM (PCK5/)

46 Wasn't there a Star Trek movie where they tried to find a crewman missing a boot?
Posted by: Citizen Cake at June 07, 2023 06:53 PM (CwhoI)
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Yep--Star Trek 6. It was planted in a locker belonging to an alien crewman who had different feet. Not a smart move by the conspirators.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 07, 2023 06:55 PM (BpYfr)

47 I guess saying "noodstream" was too sophisticated for the crowd on the ball thread.
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 07, 2023 06:50 PM (Vwz3I)
........

Hey! You know how sophistacted I am? I might just keep talking about balls.

Posted by: wth at June 07, 2023 06:55 PM (v0R5T)

48 What's this all a-boot?

Posted by: Canada at June 07, 2023 06:55 PM (fs1hN)

49 I said it was the US Navy that blew up the pipelines from day one. We are pretty much the only country that has the submarines and technology to do it and make it look like someone else did it and not leave a trace, but it looks like we left a trace. The game's afoot, but we still did it.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 07, 2023 06:55 PM (ncXxy)

50 How did the diver loose a boot?

Posted by: Skip at June 07, 2023 06:56 PM (xhxe8)

51 The game's afoot

--

BOOOOO

Posted by: Join Moron Robbie in Celebrating Groomer Awareness Month! It's a bash! at June 07, 2023 06:56 PM (/BX3R)

52
What size boot? Because shoe size correlates to penis size and is it true that 'size matters'?

Posted by: Lloyd Bridges Pride Month 'Sea Hunt' Cosmo Special Edition at June 07, 2023 06:56 PM (enJYY)

53 This reminds me of the convenient piece of metal found after the concord crash.

Hey, sometimes this BS works. Most people still think some American maintenance dude was to blame.

Posted by: Mr. Gorlopis at June 07, 2023 06:56 PM (/Fdqd)

54 42 This is like an unsolvable problem, inside a riddle that is wrapped in a conspiracy.

Sounds like a job for the Ef Bee Eye to unravel.
Posted by: Czech Chick at June 07, 2023 06:54 PM (6Tc2R)

It is a riddle, wrapped in bacon, covered in maple syrup!!!

Posted by: tubal at June 07, 2023 06:56 PM (PCK5/)

55 Das Boot is the question

Posted by: Skip at June 07, 2023 06:56 PM (xhxe8)

56 How did the diver loose a boot?

Posted by: Skip at June 07, 2023 06:56 PM

Das Boot!

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 07, 2023 06:57 PM (ncXxy)

57 Don't make me break my boot off in yo ass!

Posted by: my white momma at June 07, 2023 06:57 PM (Vwz3I)

58 By that time my lungs were aching for air.

Posted by: Mike Nelson at June 07, 2023 06:57 PM (63Dwl)

59 Has Vermin Supreme been reached for comment?

Posted by: 496 at June 07, 2023 06:57 PM (qWb93)

60 If the boot don't fit you must acquit.

Posted by: Eromero at June 07, 2023 06:57 PM (Uv0D2)

61 Sounds like a job for the Ef Bee Eye to unravel.
Posted by: Czech Chick at June 07, 2023 06:54 PM (6Tc2R)

They will send it to Delaware for further investigation. Delaware is a small state by the way, eventually the pile of investigation may suffer a collapse and slide into Maryland

Posted by: Kindltot at June 07, 2023 06:57 PM (xhaym)

62 Send that boot to Delaware for further investigation !(IYKWIM)

Posted by: Billy Barr, fixer and bagpiper at June 07, 2023 06:57 PM (fs1hN)

63 How the heck would a diver lose a boot?

--

Because we're at the "f*ck you" stage of governance. They're going to show you things like this and the Nazi flag U-Haul guy just to laugh at you.

Posted by: Join Moron Robbie in Celebrating Groomer Awareness Month! It's a bash! at June 07, 2023 06:52 PM (/BX3R)

--------------------

I think we are at this point in this comedy.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at June 07, 2023 06:58 PM (3JfbU)

64 58 By that time my lungs were aching for air.
Posted by: Mike Nelson at June 07, 2023 06:57 PM (63Dwl)

Always wondered if'n he was related to Admiral Nelson from Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea...

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 07, 2023 06:58 PM (oHd/0)

65 Boots Randolph > dive boots

Posted by: Citizen Cake at June 07, 2023 06:58 PM (CwhoI)

66 How the heck would a diver lose a boot?
.........

He short fused the charge and blew himself right out of his boots. Fish took care of the rest.

Posted by: wth at June 07, 2023 06:58 PM (v0R5T)

67 Das Boot is a boat.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at June 07, 2023 06:59 PM (vg8N1)

68 They will send it to Delaware for further investigation. Delaware is a small state by the way, eventually the pile of investigation may suffer a collapse and slide into Maryland
Posted by: Kindltot at June 07, 2023 06:57 PM (xhaym)

62 Send that boot to Delaware for further investigation !(IYKWIM)
Posted by: Billy Barr, fixer and bagpiper at June 07, 2023 06:57 PM (fs1hN)

Horde Mind!!!! Everyone Drink!

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 07, 2023 06:59 PM (oHd/0)

69 Willowed

Nice Pride rant from a wholesome blonde

twitter.com/GallopingGaye/status/
1666443226918576132

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at June 07, 2023 06:59 PM (vHIgi)

70 I saw a guy on YouTube who said that this kind of boot is also commonly worn by extraterrestrial beings. I heard him. He was telling the truth.

Posted by: Tucker Carlson at June 07, 2023 06:59 PM (xPl2J)

71 58 By that time my lungs were aching for air.
Posted by: Mike Nelson at June 07, 2023 06:57 PM (63Dwl)

++++

LOL

Posted by: washrivergal at June 07, 2023 06:59 PM (r2Mtq)

72 How Did the Official "Investigators" Miss This?
-----------

They probably assumed it came from a nearby "wet market". Common mistake.

Posted by: ... at June 07, 2023 06:59 PM (lX8VI)

73 It's obviously from a crashed navigation computer that didn't boot up properly.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 07, 2023 06:59 PM (nRMeC)

74 I absolutely don't believe it. It's hard to believe that a diver was negligent and just los a boot. It seems more likely that it was planted.
Disclaimer: I know nothing about diving and how frequently divers lose boots.

Posted by: PG at June 07, 2023 06:59 PM (84jHt)

75 I saw video of that boot on Hunter's laptop.

Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at June 07, 2023 06:59 PM (IQ1rX)

76 Delaware is where investigations go to die.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at June 07, 2023 06:59 PM (vg8N1)

77 They found just one shoe?

Obviously the culprit was Cinderella!

On a more serious note...

I find it odd that something like this would be left behind at the scene of the crime, so to speak. How likely is it that a diver would fail to realize that he'd lost his boot? It seems like something you wouldn't want to leave behind if you were trying to maintain plausible deniability of your involvement.

Very odd, imo.

Too bad there's probably no way to confirm roughly when it ended up there.

Posted by: junior at June 07, 2023 07:00 PM (KeR6U)

78 Whose Pipeline Have Your Boots Been Under?
And whose gold did you steal I wonder?
This time did it feel like thunder, baby?

Posted by: Shania Twain at June 07, 2023 07:00 PM (4I/2K)

79 Was there still a foot in the boot? Because out here in the PNW, footwear found in the water still has feet in them.

Just sayin

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 07, 2023 07:00 PM (toZgo)

80
At the Nord Stream Bomb Site, a Boot Used by US Military Divers Was Discovered.
==

DAS BOOT!

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at June 07, 2023 07:00 PM (vHIgi)

81 Bruno Magli boot?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 07, 2023 07:00 PM (63Dwl)

82 It is a riddle, wrapped in bacon, covered in maple syrup!!!
Posted by: tubal at June 07, 2023 06:56 PM (PCK5/)

_______________________________
Nestled on a plate of steaming hot ...French Toast.

Posted by: Glenn John at June 07, 2023 07:00 PM (RilAR)

83 Suddenly, a strange object appeared on the screen. It was a black and orange diver's boot.

Extremely convenient.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 07, 2023 06:51 PM (RnmtJ)

Yeah.... two things make me go... uh... wait...

1. SEALs do not wear ORANGE boots... that would be commercial dive rigs...

2. The only way a boot would be there is if it fell out of the boat when they were done... which may have been WAY after the explosions. Lots of intel agencies have investigated those waters,
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 07, 2023 06:

I'm with you guys. And the US wouldn't have launched from a boat .

Posted by: polynikes at June 07, 2023 07:00 PM (QJGMB)

84 Damnit, Cochran. I fell asleep.

Posted by: Eromero at June 07, 2023 07:00 PM (Uv0D2)

85 Also. Dam under Russian control blows up. Conveniently floods the battle space to the detriment of an eminent Ukrainian offensive action and could have an impact on their power supply. But the Uke's did it or something.

I've got no pony in this fight, and it certainly could have been the Uke's as there's some impact to Crimea, but this idea we automatically believe Russia when they are known to take these types of actions is intellectually dishonest.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 07, 2023 07:00 PM (+Odgf)

86 Don't you explode if you lose your boot deep under water, under great pressure, like talking your helmet off in space??

And similarly, under water no one can hear you scream.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 07, 2023 07:01 PM (Vwz3I)

87 He short fused the charge and blew himself right out of his boots. Fish took care of the rest.
Posted by: wth at June 07, 2023 06:58 PM (v0R5T)

Are they the weighted boots? IIRC only three of the pipelines were hit, and that would fit a diver having a dive emergency and having to resurface as quickly as possible, shucking all his unneeded equipment.

I can play with facts as I want, but I don't know what makes sense

Posted by: Kindltot at June 07, 2023 07:01 PM (xhaym)

88 By that time my lungs were aching for air.
Posted by: Mike Nelson at June 07, 2023 06:57 PM

That was one of the funniest bits on MST3K.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 07, 2023 07:01 PM (ncXxy)

89 Sweden has known the culprit all along. So has Poland and Germany. I expect Sweden blackmailed Joe into agreeing to support Swedish and Finnish NATO membership in return for keeping the secret the US did it. Germany and Poland are keeping the secret as long as Joe bankrolls Ukraine's work at destroying a lot of Russian Army hardware.

Posted by: Tin Foil Hat Gref at June 07, 2023 07:02 PM (AMIL/)

90 Did the boot heel have directions on how to pour piss out of it?

Posted by: Eromero at June 07, 2023 07:02 PM (Uv0D2)

91 Boot on the water.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 07, 2023 07:02 PM (63Dwl)

92 1. SEALs do not wear ORANGE boots... that would be commercial dive rigs...

Sy Hersch claims it was Navy divers and not SEAL because SEAL involvement would have required notification of Congress or something like that.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 07, 2023 07:03 PM (xhaym)

93 Are they the weighted boots? IIRC only three of the pipelines were hit, and that would fit a diver having a dive emergency and having to resurface as quickly as possible, shucking all his unneeded equipment.

I can play with facts as I want, but I don't know what makes sense
Posted by: Kindltot

Remember, depending on depth, if he surfaces too quick, he gets the bends.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 07, 2023 07:03 PM (RnmtJ)

94 Look for the man with one orange boot. It's elementary.

Posted by: Shylock Holmes at June 07, 2023 07:03 PM (4I/2K)

95 Salmon on the grill. Potlatch-style seasoning.

The lovely and delightful Mrs naturalfake in making her famous beet pasta.

Grilled asparagus.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 07, 2023 07:03 PM (fb7jX)

96 Willowed:

Don't get the tiger nuts. Guy I know got them and his corn flakes bill is bigger than his house payment.
Posted by: Eromero at June 07, 2023 06:53 PM (Uv0D2)

But the tiger moms think they're Grrrrreat!

Posted by: InZona at June 07, 2023 07:04 PM (bfyic)

97 Whitey is on the moon and didn’t leave nam boot up in here!

Posted by: Zombie Gil Scott Heron, rayciss at June 07, 2023 07:04 PM (R/m4+)

98 No rain here.....

Posted by: JT at June 07, 2023 07:04 PM (T4tVD)

99 Posted by: Marcus T at June 07, 2023 07:00 PM (+Odgf)

Is that any more plausible than Vlad Putin blowing up the Dam that is supplying water to his own citizens?

It supplies both Crimea, and the regions that Russia has claimed as now part of Russia.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 07, 2023 07:04 PM (oHd/0)

100 Remember, depending on depth, if he surfaces too quick, he gets the bends.
--

Never thought about it, but do men and women divers have differences in that ascent time, too? Even if it's seconds it would still be interesting to know.

Posted by: Join Moron Robbie in Celebrating Groomer Awareness Month! It's a bash! at June 07, 2023 07:05 PM (/BX3R)

101 Sy Hersch claims it was Navy divers and not SEAL because SEAL involvement would have required notification of Congress or something like that.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 07, 2023 07:03 PM (xhaym)

++++

At this point I believe nothing. It is always either a scam or a sham or both in combinations.

Posted by: washrivergal at June 07, 2023 07:05 PM (r2Mtq)

102 Blame it all on my roots,
I lost my dive boots,
And ruined your black ops affair.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at June 07, 2023 07:05 PM (CwhoI)

103 Suddenly, a strange object appeared on the screen. It was a ~~black and orange diver's boot~~ perfectly preserved Ukrainian passport.

Extremely convenient.

FIFY

Posted by: Reuben Hick at June 07, 2023 07:06 PM (YXHzG)

104 Did the boot heel have directions on how to pour piss out of it?

Posted by: Eromero at June 07, 2023 07:02 PM\

That would have been diabolical.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 07, 2023 07:06 PM (ncXxy)

105 I think it was some Deep Stater that blew up the pipeline and the dam.
It's the kind of dumb shit they'd do

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at June 07, 2023 07:06 PM (vHIgi)

106 That's where I left it!

Posted by: Bootsie Collins at June 07, 2023 07:06 PM (VMFAF)

107 definitely ops

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah, knows it's all ops at June 07, 2023 07:06 PM (sJHOI)

108 Did the boot look like this?

https://tinyurl.com/mtnjkzt7

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Detective at June 07, 2023 07:06 PM (PiwSw)

109 BNO News @BNONews · 4h
Actor Jay Johnston, best known for Mr. Show, Arrested Development, and Bob's Burgers, arrested and charged for January 6

Breaking911 @Breaking911 · 1h
NEW: ‘Bob’s Burgers’ and ‘Anchorman’ Actor Arrested on Charges Related to Jan. 6 Capitol Riot

||A well-known actor from Hollywood, who had notable roles in “Mr. Show,” “Arrested Development,” “Bob’s Burgers,” and “Anchorman: The Legend of Ron Burgundy,” has been apprehended in California and charged in connection with the January 6 riot at the U.S. Capitol.

Jay Johnston is facing charges of felony obstruction of officers during civil disorder, along with several misdemeanor offenses, the DOJ announced.

The court documents reveal that Johnston entered the upper west tunnel during the January 6 riot. It is alleged that he “assisted at least three other rioters by pouring water on their faces.” Additionally, the documents state that he wielded a stolen U.S. Capitol Police shield while participating in the clashes between rioters and law enforcement.

The FBI’s National Threat Operations Center received a communication from an attorney representing Johnston on March 8, 2021, according to the bureau.||

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 07, 2023 07:06 PM (Vwz3I)

110 You keep sayin' you've got somethin' for me
somethin' you call love but confess
You've been a'messin' where you shouldn't've been messin'
and now someone is getting all your best

Posted by: wth at June 07, 2023 07:06 PM (v0R5T)

111 Never thought about it, but do men and women divers have differences in that ascent time, too? Even if it's seconds it would still be interesting to know.
Posted by: Join Moron Robbie

I wonder, because of the pressure difference, if those with implants would pop?

Posted by: rickb223 at June 07, 2023 07:07 PM (RnmtJ)

112 Remember, depending on depth, if he surfaces too quick, he gets the bends.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 07, 2023 07:03 PM (RnmtJ)

I wouldn't mind if she got the bends IYKWIMAITYD.

Posted by: InZona at June 07, 2023 07:07 PM (bfyic)

113 {69} ... Nice Pride rant from a wholesome blonde

twitter.com/GallopingGaye/status/
1666443226918576132

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at June 07, 2023 06:59 PM (vHIgi)

Just highlighting this from vmom, because it's _very_ good.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 07, 2023 07:07 PM (nRMeC)

114 Never thought about it, but do men and women divers have differences in that ascent time, too? Even if it's seconds it would still be interesting to know.
Posted by: Join Moron Robbie

I think you (a) overestimate the precision to which this stuff is understood, and (b) underestimate the variability from person to person, day to day, etc.

So they pick really safe numbers and put them on the table for all.

Posted by: Mr. Gorlopis at June 07, 2023 07:07 PM (/Fdqd)

115 The game's afoot

Follow your spirit and upon this charge
Cry God for Harry, England, and St. George!

Posted by: Henry V - Manhoods held cheap! at June 07, 2023 07:07 PM (fiChp)

116 Sy Hersch claims it was Navy divers and not SEAL because SEAL involvement would have required notification of Congress or something like that.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 07, 2023 07:03 PM (xhaym)

That is different. Combat Swimmers and regular Navy Divers do use different equipment... at least they used to.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 07, 2023 07:07 PM (oHd/0)

117 It is alleged that he “assisted at least three other rioters by pouring water on their faces.”

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Aka rendering first aid

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at June 07, 2023 07:07 PM (vHIgi)

118 The court documents reveal that Johnston entered the upper west tunnel during the January 6 riot. It is alleged that he “assisted at least three other rioters by pouring water on their faces.”

--

That bastard gave them water!

Posted by: Join Moron Robbie in Celebrating Groomer Awareness Month! It's a bash! at June 07, 2023 07:08 PM (/BX3R)

119 Check the boot for toenail fungus spores.

Posted by: davidt at June 07, 2023 07:08 PM (SYTee)

120 Blame it all on my roots,
I lost my dive boots,
And ruined your black ops affair.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at June 07, 2023 07:05 PM (CwhoI)

+1

Posted by: G. Brooks at June 07, 2023 07:08 PM (4I/2K)

121 Jay Johnston is facing charges of felony obstruction of officers during civil disorder, along with several misdemeanor offenses, the DOJ announced.

That's a day ending in y for antifa. Rhetorical: So how come there aren't a bunch of antifas getting arrested?

Posted by: InZona at June 07, 2023 07:09 PM (bfyic)

122 Thanks Grumpy

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at June 07, 2023 07:09 PM (vHIgi)

123 "Is that any more plausible than Vlad Putin blowing up the Dam that is supplying water to his own citizens?

It supplies both Crimea, and the regions that Russia has claimed as now part of Russia.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 07, 2023 07:04 PM (oHd/0)"

As a move to further turn the people against Ukraine, cement their stewardship and destroy the battle space against any Uke offensive- why not? Do you believe that Putin wouldn't do that? Look how he's abusing his forces and conquering territory. Do you truly believe he's above that, especially when the available evidence says it's likely?

I have no love for the dictator Zelensky either. But this idea that every action is automatically the Uke's doesn't pass the test.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 07, 2023 07:09 PM (+Odgf)

124 Did i miss all the "Das Boot" jokes?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 07, 2023 07:09 PM (9UlRk)

125 I wonder, because of the pressure difference, if those with implants would pop?
Posted by: rickb223

Why would they pop? They are not compressible, nor rigid. Nothing pops under uniform pressure unless they are filled with air.
Hey, Maybe they should fill them with helium to prevent sag?

Posted by: Mr. Gorlopis at June 07, 2023 07:09 PM (/Fdqd)

126 "The only proper place for a boot is on your head"
--Vermin Supreme

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 07, 2023 07:09 PM (0hOvj)

127 102 Blame it all on my roots,
I lost my dive boots,
And ruined your black ops affair.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at June 07, 2023 07:05 PM (CwhoI)

/Golf Clap

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 07, 2023 07:09 PM (oHd/0)

128 I think you (a) overestimate the precision to which this stuff is understood, and (b) underestimate the variability from person to person, day to day, etc.

So they pick really safe numbers and put them on the table for all.

Posted by: Mr. Gorlopis

---

I'm betting they
1) have the data
b) not see any point in releasing different recommendations for men and women because there's not really any point for recreational divers
and
42) can't release that type of data any longer

But I bet that data exists.

Posted by: Join Moron Robbie in Celebrating Groomer Awareness Month! It's a bash! at June 07, 2023 07:09 PM (/BX3R)

129 I think you (a) overestimate the precision to which this stuff is understood, and (b) underestimate the variability from person to person, day to day, etc.

So they pick really safe numbers and put them on the table for all.
Posted by: Mr. Gorlopis

I've always heard, that you surface as fast as your slowest bubble.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 07, 2023 07:10 PM (RnmtJ)

130 Need to shove the conspiracy boot right up Jake's squeakhole

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 07, 2023 07:10 PM (TDfdz)

131 Where's Amy Schumer when you freakin need her, huh?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 07, 2023 07:10 PM (9UlRk)

132 Didn't some one earlier say they would find a pristine passport or two, you know to keep up 9/11 style appearances?

Was it an all diverse team of experts? A boot. Haha!

Posted by: micky at June 07, 2023 07:10 PM (3byMq)

133 Remember, depending on depth, if he surfaces too quick, he gets the bends.
--

Never thought about it, but do men and women divers have differences in that ascent time, too? Even if it's seconds it would still be interesting to know.

Posted by: Join Moron Robbie in Celebrating Groomer Awareness Month! It's a bash! at June 07, 2023 07:05 PM

No but my wife could last on a pony tank three times as long as I could on an 80cf tank at 60 feet. Sometimes she had so much air left we didn't need to refill her tank for a second dive when I would have to grab a second tank. Sometimes I think she quit breathing down there.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 07, 2023 07:10 PM (ncXxy)

134 The blown dam was either US or Ukraine. Thats the only thing that makes sense. It is a HUGE event and massive disaster that probably killed thousands and the news is barely mentioning it. If Russia did it, they'd be all over the coverage.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 07, 2023 07:10 PM (0hOvj)

135
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 07, 2023 07:06 PM (Vwz3I)

==≈============

Assisted rioters by pouring water on their faces?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 07, 2023 07:10 PM (lCaJd)

136 Sometimes I think she quit breathing down there.
Posted by: Mister Scott

Maybe you married a mermaid

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at June 07, 2023 07:11 PM (vHIgi)

137 Sometimes she had so much air left we didn't need to refill her tank for a second dive when I would have to grab a second tank.

Its her cute girly lungs. They don't need so much air.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 07, 2023 07:11 PM (0hOvj)

138 Assisted rioters by pouring water on their faces?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia

Helps with the tear gas

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at June 07, 2023 07:12 PM (vHIgi)

139 No way a diver in the North Sea is going to loose a boot. You are not changing footwear underwater where the temp is under 50 degrees. Lost by accident? No way. Planted, sure.

Posted by: Chicago Vota at June 07, 2023 07:12 PM (mbH6j)

140 Assisted rioters by pouring water on their faces?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 07, 2023 07:10 PM (lCaJd)

Probably first aid for tear gas.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 07, 2023 07:12 PM (oHd/0)

141 No but my wife could last on a pony tank three times as long as I could on an 80cf tank at 60 feet. Sometimes she had so much air left we didn't need to refill her tank for a second dive when I would have to grab a second tank. Sometimes I think she quit breathing down there.

Posted by: Mister Scott

--

I would bet money there is a noticeable difference in men and women and how each sex processes the gases.

Without any other information I'd be willing to bet men as a group could safely surface 10% quicker.

Posted by: Join Moron Robbie in Celebrating Groomer Awareness Month! It's a bash! at June 07, 2023 07:12 PM (/BX3R)

142 ||11 NOV 2022, 15:27

Crimea’s water reservoirs have enough water for two years — authorities
In May 2014, Ukraine cut water supplies to Crimea from the Kherson Region via the North Crimean canal

SIMFEROPOL, November 11. /TASS/. Crimea’s water reservoirs have enough water for two years and will be able to meet the peninsula’s entire demand in case the Ukrainian authorities implement their threats and blow up the Kakhovka hydroelectric power plant’s dam, Crimea’s Prime Minister Vladimir Konstantinov said on Friday.

"From the point of view of the actual situation, Crimea is not dependent on water from the North Crimean canal. We have been living without it for eight years. We have done a lot. We have a program for water supplies until 2024. Water resources in Crimea’s water reservoirs - they are all full - are enough for two year, even if there is no rain. Nevertheless, we count on the North Crimean canal as a source for Crimea’s development," he said.||

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 07, 2023 07:12 PM (Vwz3I)

143 As a move to further turn the people against Ukraine, cement their stewardship and destroy the battle space against any Uke offensive- why not? Do you believe that Putin wouldn't do that? Look how he's abusing his forces and conquering territory. Do you truly believe he's above that, especially when the available evidence says it's likely?

I have no love for the dictator Zelensky either. But this idea that every action is automatically the Uke's doesn't pass the test.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 07, 2023 07:09 PM (+Odgf)

++++
If there is one thing I do believe, it is that Putin/Russians did not do the exploding.

Posted by: washrivergal at June 07, 2023 07:12 PM (r2Mtq)

144 The Bends

No one wants fizzy blood.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 07, 2023 07:12 PM (TDfdz)

145
At least now we know what Billy Joe McAllister threw off the Tallahassee Bridge.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 07, 2023 07:12 PM (enJYY)

146 Tallahassee, Delaware

Posted by: Join Moron Robbie in Celebrating Groomer Awareness Month! It's a bash! at June 07, 2023 07:13 PM (/BX3R)

147 BNO News @BNONews · 4h
Actor Jay Johnston, best known for Mr. Show, Arrested Development, and Bob's Burgers, arrested and charged for January 6

Breaking911 @Breaking911 · 1h
NEW: ‘Bob’s Burgers’ and ‘Anchorman’ Actor Arrested on Charges Related to Jan. 6 Capitol Riot

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 07, 2023 07:06 PM (Vwz3I)

"NOOO!!! You don't have to call me Johnston! My name is Raymond J. Johnston, Jr. Now you can call me Ray! Or you can call me Jay! Or you can call me Johnny! Or you can call me Sonny! Or you can call me Junie! Or you can call me Junior! Or you can call me Ray J, or you can call me RJ, or you can call me RJJ, or you can call me RJJ Jr. ... but ya doesn't hasta call me Johnston!"

Posted by: Bill Saluga at June 07, 2023 07:13 PM (4I/2K)

148 Why is everyone so sure this must have been done by an official state military? A post yesterday even explained it couldn’t be the Ukes because they have a crap Navy and would have to travel very far to get to the site. This seems like a perfect job for mercs. That’s always who I thought did this.

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 07, 2023 07:14 PM (Yoz4I)

149 I wonder, because of the pressure difference, if those with implants would pop?
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Isn't that what killed the Jacqueline Bisset character in The Deep??

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 07, 2023 07:14 PM (Vwz3I)

150 I suppose anyone could have dropped that boot there. Were there serial numbers?

When I lived near Dallas decades ago, just for fun now and then I would stomp into the ground a spent aged 30.06 cartridge into the "grassy knoll" where JFK was shot.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at June 07, 2023 07:14 PM (YXHzG)

151 I'm loving how a bit of smoke in New York from a forest fire is now an YUGE DEAL and STORY!!!!!!

When in Calif, we just call that Summer.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 07, 2023 07:14 PM (oHd/0)

152 Do you believe that Putin wouldn't do that?

I think if we knew Putin did it, the news media would be hammering that 24/7 rather than kind of burying the story.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 07, 2023 07:14 PM (0hOvj)

153 But I bet that data exists.
Posted by: Join Moron Robbie in Celebrating Groomer Awareness Month! It's a bash! at June 07, 2023 07:09 PM (/BX3R)

Nah, it varies with blood chemistry and blood chemistry varies with diet, health, time of day, stress,....

Any change in simple blood volume (water concentration) will change the amount of gas that might be released. So sweat a lot and the required ascent time changes. Or eat a big meal. Or have a slight cold,....

Posted by: Mr. Gorlopis at June 07, 2023 07:15 PM (/Fdqd)

154 So how come there aren't a bunch of antifas getting arrested?
Posted by: InZona at June 07, 2023 07:09 PM (bfyic)

Because their name is not Donald Trump

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 07, 2023 07:15 PM (pmmLi)

155 35 I don't always plant bombs on pipelines, but when I do, I take my shoes off immediately and have a cigar. Sometimes I do this before I even surface
Posted by: Mr. Gorlopis at June 07, 2023 06:53 PM (/Fdqd

In Rainbow Six, one of the British operators was identified by his habit of always having a post-mission cigarette in the same (relative) location, and some othe OPSEc violating gestures.

Posted by: Vir Cotto at June 07, 2023 07:15 PM (cKnoj)

156 Posted by: Marcus T at June 07, 2023 07:09 PM (+Odg

My default is that desperate people do desperate acts. But I agree with you that automatic blame on either party based on who you're leaning toward in support not intellectually honest.

Posted by: polynikes at June 07, 2023 07:15 PM (QJGMB)

157 "If there is one thing I do believe, it is that Putin/Russians did not do the exploding.
Posted by: washrivergal at June 07, 2023 07:12 PM (r2Mtq)"

Based on what facts? The dam is allegedly under Russian control and was wired by them. Did the Invisible Uke Man do it, or was it Colonel Mustard?

Posted by: Marcus T at June 07, 2023 07:15 PM (+Odgf)

158 at depths of between 78 and 42 meters
.......

256 and 138 feet. Pretty deep for divers. And then they have to resurface in the mess? I'm thinking sub.

Posted by: wth at June 07, 2023 07:15 PM (v0R5T)

159 >>>Wasn't there a Star Trek movie where they tried to find a crewman missing a boot?

yeah, Star Trek 6! the assassin turned off the gravity and then walked around the klingon ship using magnetic boots.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2023 07:15 PM (KRtlO)

160 Sy Hersch claims it was Navy divers and not SEAL because SEAL involvement would have required notification of Congress or something like that.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 07, 2023 07:03 PM (xhaym)

If SEALS were employed and Congress wasn't notified, but Congress later finds out, what would happen? A stern letter to Corrupt Joe? A very stern letter to Corrupt Joe? Hersh assumes the Biden Cabal plays by the rules? Can a person be that naive?

Posted by: Gref at June 07, 2023 07:16 PM (AMIL/)

161 Before this thread was outside, seems better than all day with smoke in air.

Posted by: Skip at June 07, 2023 07:16 PM (xhxe8)

162 Oh sweet mother of SMOD where are you?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 07, 2023 07:16 PM (pmmLi)

163 When I lived near Dallas decades ago, just for fun now and then I would stomp into the ground a spent aged 30.06 cartridge into the "grassy knoll" where JFK was shot.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at June 07, 2023 07:14 PM (YXHzG)

++++
That's funny. Well, weren't you the devil?

Posted by: washrivergal at June 07, 2023 07:16 PM (r2Mtq)

164 148 Why is everyone so sure this must have been done by an official state military? A post yesterday even explained it couldn’t be the Ukes because they have a crap Navy and would have to travel very far to get to the site. This seems like a perfect job for mercs. That’s always who I thought did this.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 07, 2023 07:14 PM (Yoz4I)

or, they drove across Poland, and rented a boat.

Commercial dive gear would get past the border easily... then a gun runner or such for explosives and????

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 07, 2023 07:16 PM (oHd/0)

165 That’s always who I thought did this.

Possible, but the Navy's Sixth Fleet was operating in that area with submarine drones allegedly doing mine salvage exercises.

In the meantime, Nuland and other psychos in office were vowing to destroy the pipe-line.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at June 07, 2023 07:16 PM (YXHzG)

166 There was once a sailor who was holding his boot to his ear. He was listening to some music.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 07, 2023 07:16 PM (8NWUp)

167 Assisted rioters by pouring water on their faces?
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As others pointed out -- washing tear gas or pepper-spray off of faces.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 07, 2023 07:17 PM (Vwz3I)

168 Sometimes I think she quit breathing down there.
Posted by: Mister Scott

Maybe you married a mermaid
Posted by: vmomSometimes

Has anybody checked for gills?

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 07, 2023 07:17 PM (yruun)

169 Is Hersh really still alive?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 07, 2023 07:17 PM (pmmLi)

170 "My default is that desperate people do desperate acts. But I agree with you that automatic blame on either party based on who you're leaning toward in support not intellectually honest.
Posted by: polynikes at June 07, 2023 07:15 PM (QJGMB)"

Agreed and that's my point. I could not care either way and I presume nothing about either side.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 07, 2023 07:17 PM (+Odgf)

171 No but my wife could last on a pony tank three times as long as I could on an 80cf tank at 60 feet. Sometimes she had so much air left we didn't need to refill her tank for a second dive when I would have to grab a second tank. Sometimes I think she quit breathing down there.

Posted by: Mister Scott

I would bet money there is a noticeable difference in men and women and how each sex processes the gases.

Without any other information I'd be willing to bet men as a group could safely surface 10% quicker.

Posted by: Join Moron Robbie in Celebrating Groomer Awareness Month! It's a bash! at June 07, 2023 07:12 PM

Leave me out of that experiment as there is only one way to test your hypothesis and I ain't volunteering for that. Excruciating pain and bloody foamy breath doesn't sound like fun to me.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 07, 2023 07:17 PM (ncXxy)

172 Posted by: Marcus T at June 07, 2023 07:15 PM (+Odg

Now it sounds like you're saying Putin did it.

Posted by: polynikes at June 07, 2023 07:17 PM (QJGMB)

173 134 The blown dam was either US or Ukraine. Thats the only thing that makes sense. It is a HUGE event and massive disaster that probably killed thousands and the news is barely mentioning it. If Russia did it, they'd be all over the coverage.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 07, 2023 07:10 PM
This is probably true. The grift must flow.

Posted by: Eromero at June 07, 2023 07:17 PM (Uv0D2)

174
Hey, Maybe they should fill them with helium to prevent sag?

Posted by: Mr. Gorlopis at June 07, 2023 07:09 PM

Breast implants filled with helium?

I'm nominating you for the Nobel peace prize in every category.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 07, 2023 07:17 PM (enJYY)

175 151 I'm loving how a bit of smoke in New York from a forest fire is now an YUGE DEAL and STORY!!!!!!

***
The sky turned ORANGE!

ORANGE SKY BAD!

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at June 07, 2023 07:17 PM (vHIgi)

176 Assisted rioters by pouring water on their faces?
______

That's a felony. Actually three felonies since he did it three times.

Posted by: Merrick Garland at June 07, 2023 07:17 PM (fs1hN)

177 How sloppy do the divers have to be to leave a boot behind? You'd think that top of the line Navy divers on an important mission like this would be more thorough?

Posted by: Surfperch at June 07, 2023 07:18 PM (rQF5a)

178 Agreed and that's my point. I could not care either way and I presume nothing about either side.
Posted by: Marcus T at June 07, 2023 07:17 PM (+Odgf)

Okay ignore my last post.

Posted by: polynikes at June 07, 2023 07:18 PM (QJGMB)

179
I think you (a) overestimate the precision to which this stuff is understood, and (b) underestimate the variability from person to person, day to day, etc.

So they pick really safe numbers and put them on the table for all.
Posted by: Mr. Gorlopis

============

I'm pretty sure PADI dive tables are based on Navy experiments from the 1960s, which were conducted on prime human beefcake. They don't differentiate between men and women.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 07, 2023 07:18 PM (lCaJd)

180 Anna what do think the outcome of Russia Ukraine will be

Posted by: JmT at June 07, 2023 07:18 PM (ucixH)

181 So Canadian wildfire smoke is supposed to drift down to SC, but I need to stop driving my Honda because of the Klimate Krisis.

Right.

Posted by: Regular joe at June 07, 2023 07:19 PM (nnp+f)

182 When I lived near Dallas decades ago, just for fun now and then I would stomp into the ground a spent aged 30.06 cartridge into the "grassy knoll" where JFK was shot.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at June 07, 2023 07:14 PM (YXHzG)

++++
That's funny. Well, weren't you the devil?
Posted by: washrivergal at June 07, 2023 07:16 PM (
***

That right there is epic!
I'm sitting at a bar laughing out loud. People are staring.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 07, 2023 07:19 PM (8NWUp)

183 So just look for a diver with one boot and that's the guy!

Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2023 07:19 PM (RG6z4)

184 Leave me out of that experiment as there is only one way to test your hypothesis and I ain't volunteering for that. Excruciating pain and bloody foamy breath doesn't sound like fun to me.

Posted by: Mister Scott
-

Ha, yeah, it would be a crappy study, but I bet it's been done. Probably 100 years ago or whenever they really started researching this kind of thing and understanding this sort of stuff.

If we're flaying beagles to see if fruit flies like classical music played through their skulls or whatever, then I have a hard time believing someone hasn't compiled numbers on ascent rates between the sexes.

Posted by: Join Moron Robbie in Celebrating Groomer Awareness Month! It's a bash! at June 07, 2023 07:20 PM (/BX3R)

185 I'm loving how a bit of smoke in New York from a forest fire is now an YUGE DEAL and STORY!!!!!!

When in Calif, we just call that Summer.

In Texas, we call that Spring because the Mexicans would be burning off their fields and the smoke would drift in.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at June 07, 2023 07:20 PM (YXHzG)

186 The boot is big!
The ocean is much BIGGER!

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 07, 2023 07:20 PM (28MyZ)

187 Read the book Shadow Divers and you'll understand how this was never done by divers.

Posted by: wth at June 07, 2023 07:20 PM (v0R5T)

188 Rumor has it that a camo croc washed up in Germany but the Huns dismissed it as a common artifact after a typical day at the beach.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at June 07, 2023 07:20 PM (fY84s)

189 Was it a juiced boot?

Posted by: Apply gp Directly To Forehead at June 07, 2023 07:20 PM (MvF+J)

190 Has anyone seen my missing boot. I'm a SEAL, ya know.....

Posted by: J. Ventura at June 07, 2023 07:20 PM (89Sog)

191 Based on what facts? The dam is allegedly under Russian control and was wired by them. Did the Invisible Uke Man do it, or was it Colonel Mustard?
Posted by: Marcus T at June 07, 2023 07:15 PM (+Odgf)

I don't think anyone blew it... it was damaged in a HIMAR attack a few weeks ago.... damaged the flood gates. Russians then let water get too high.... there are pictures of damage to the road that crosses it a couple days before it really accelerated its collapse.

Once a dam starts to go, at all... its very hard to save. Add in no real Engineers onsite? Just some military folks? Combination of minor damage, high water, and a lack of Engineers creates a recipe for disaster.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 07, 2023 07:21 PM (oHd/0)

192 Jacqueline Bisset in The Deep

https://tinyurl.com/5cbw53ce

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 07, 2023 07:21 PM (Vwz3I)

193 Best boot Star Trek was when Joe Biden was running that Nazi planet and Doc Mcoy beamed down still getting dressed as an SS doc but his boots didn’t fit.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 07, 2023 07:22 PM (R/m4+)

194
Based on what facts? The dam is allegedly under Russian control and was wired by them. Did the Invisible Uke Man do it, or was it Colonel Mustard?

Posted by: Marcus T at June 07, 2023 07:15 PM (+Odgf)

++++

The fact that Bidenhead threatened specifically to do just that. The fact that the Russians could have turned off the valves instead.

Posted by: washrivergal at June 07, 2023 07:22 PM (r2Mtq)

195 I have no love for the dictator Zelensky either. But this idea that every action is automatically the Uke's doesn't pass the test.
Posted by: Marcus T at June 07, 2023 07:09 PM (+Odgf)

That goes both ways, blaming everything on Putin and Wagner because they are evil is just as clueless.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 07, 2023 07:22 PM (xhaym)

196 There was once a sailor who was holding his boot to his ear. He was listening to some music.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 07, 2023 07:16 PM (8NWUp)

Sole music. SOLE music.
Jeez I hate it when I screw up a joke.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 07, 2023 07:22 PM (8NWUp)

197 "Now it sounds like you're saying Putin did it.
Posted by: polynikes at June 07, 2023 07:17 PM (QJGMB)"

The idea the Russians didn't have motive or access to do it is my issue. They do, and did. It sure sounds like based on those facts it's highly likely they did do it. I'm mot sure what the Uke's gain by doing this. They lose the offensive, piss off the population, threaten their own territory and lose a major water supply that won't really impact Crimea so to their self sufficient reservoirs.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 07, 2023 07:22 PM (+Odgf)

198 144 The Bends

No one wants fizzy blood.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 07, 2023 07:12 PM (TDfdz)

Sometimes on a hot Transylvanian evening, a sparkling B- is just what the doctor ordered.

Posted by: Vlad Dracul at June 07, 2023 07:22 PM (fiChp)

199 yeah, Star Trek 6! the assassin turned off the gravity and then walked around the klingon ship using magnetic boots.

I really liked that part until it went nowhere, just a dead crew member. It was a chance to do something really interesting and unique with the story and it was ultimately meaningless.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 07, 2023 07:22 PM (0hOvj)

200 10 How the heck would a diver lose a boot?
Posted by: Bosk at June 07, 2023 06:49 PM (VMFAF)

**********

Well, I had just planted the bomb when a couple of Russian gars swam up and tried to depants me.

Fortunately, they only got one of my boots and I was able to make it back to the sub safely!

Posted by: The Ghost Diver of Kiev, Missing One Boot at June 07, 2023 07:23 PM (xxG/v)

201 How sloppy do the divers have to be to leave a boot behind? You'd think that top of the line Navy divers on an important mission like this would be more thorough?
Posted by: Surfperch at June 07, 2023 07:18 PM (rQF5a)
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Indeed. When it comes to skullduggery, "zero residual presence" should be your mantra.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 07, 2023 07:23 PM (BpYfr)

202 Ha, yeah, it would be a crappy study, but I bet it's been done. Probably 100 years ago or whenever they really started researching this kind of thing and understanding this sort of stuff.

Posted by: Join Moron Robbie in Celebrating Groomer Awareness Month! It's a bash!

With the Brooklyn Bridge there was a lot of confusion because some men got "caisson disease" and other's didn't after the same period under pressure. Massive variability.

Posted by: Mr. Gorlopis at June 07, 2023 07:23 PM (/Fdqd)

203 Re: crap left behind at the Nord Stream explosion site. When Trump's wallet is found give me a call.

Posted by: Lost In Space at June 07, 2023 07:24 PM (a175k)

204 Once a dam starts to go, at all... its very hard to save. Add in no real Engineers onsite?

Yeah that does actually make sense. We were struggling to figure out what kind of munition could possibly take out a structure that big this side of a nuke. But old damage and stress with too much weight behind it, maybe.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 07, 2023 07:24 PM (0hOvj)

205 201 How sloppy do the divers have to be to leave a boot behind? You'd think that top of the line Navy divers on an important mission like this would be more thorough?
Posted by: Surfperch

The sea was angry that day my friends.

Posted by: george Costanza at June 07, 2023 07:24 PM (/Fdqd)

206 I don't know nothin' 'bout no Russian pipe.

Posted by: Bootsy Collins at June 07, 2023 07:25 PM (gUnYu)

207 Foe Anna Puma:

Dale Stark @DaleStarkA10
Good evening gentlemen I need $1.875 M for an OV-10 Bronco.

https://tinyurl.com/2y5bunx8

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 07, 2023 07:25 PM (Vwz3I)

208 If that boot has a serial number on it, probably disfigured . Navy divers are the best in the world, and they learn to obscure evidence in the CIA.

Posted by: Eromero at June 07, 2023 07:26 PM (Uv0D2)

209 Yeah that does actually make sense. We were struggling to figure out what kind of munition could possibly take out a structure that big this side of a nuke. But old damage and stress with too much weight behind it, maybe.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 07, 2023 07:24 PM (0hOvj)
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Depending on when it was built, it could be an example of Soviet (or Russian) engineering at its finest, comrade!

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 07, 2023 07:26 PM (BpYfr)

210 Boot was a slang term for vomiting when I went to college, "I think I'm gonna boot." I do not know why.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 07, 2023 07:26 PM (0hOvj)

211 "Posted by: Romeo13 at June 07, 2023 07:21 PM (oHd/0)"

And that is a third possibility I didn't consider. I didn't realize it was a HIMARS. I thought it was smaller ordnance.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 07, 2023 07:26 PM (+Odgf)

212 203 Re: crap left behind at the Nord Stream explosion site. When Trump's wallet is found give me a call.
Posted by: Lost In Space at June 07, 2023 07:24 PM (a175k)

We found Osama Bin L's BODY!

Posted by: Next Search Team at June 07, 2023 07:26 PM (oHd/0)

213 73 It's obviously from a crashed navigation computer that didn't boot up properly.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 07, 2023 06:59 PM (nRMeC)
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Is that your sole theory or has the catfish got your tongue?

Posted by: Ciampino - What's black and screams? Stevie Wonder answering the iron at June 07, 2023 07:26 PM (qfLjt)

214 How the heck would a diver lose a boot?
Posted by: Bosk at June 07, 2023 06:49 PM (VMFAF)

That was my first thought. While I suppose it's not out of the realm of possibility, there seems to be no honest brokers of information. Everything reported in the "news" seems to be intended to shape opinion of the intended audience towards an accepted narrative, rather than simply reporting what happened.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at June 07, 2023 07:26 PM (pJWtt)

215 Based on what facts? The dam is allegedly under Russian control and was wired by them. Did the Invisible Uke Man do it, or was it Colonel Mustard?
Posted by: Marcus T at June 07, 2023 07:15 PM (+Odgf)

I don't think anyone blew it... it was damaged in a HIMAR attack a few weeks ago.... damaged the flood gates. Russians then let water get too high.... there are pictures of damage to the road that crosses it a couple days before it really accelerated its collapse.

Once a dam starts to go, at all... its very hard to save. Add in no real Engineers onsite? Just some military folks? Combination of minor damage, high water, and a lack of Engineers creates a recipe for disaster.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 07, 2023 07:21 PM

Spring comes late to that part of the world. The dam was damaged in some earlier attacks and now the snow pack melt runoff is causing serious high water issues and destroying the dam. The Ruskies can't let water out fast enough to stop further damage.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 07, 2023 07:27 PM (ncXxy)

216 With the Brooklyn Bridge there was a lot of confusion because some men got "caisson disease" and other's didn't after the same period under pressure. Massive variability.

Posted by: Mr. Gorlopis

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Ah, but now we're getting closer.

I am certain there's massive variability, but I'm also betting it's a massive variability that exists in a predictable curve between the sexes.

Again, it's a moot point because that type of science or discussion is no longer allowed. But it would be interesting to see data that *does* exist.

Posted by: Join Moron Robbie in Celebrating Groomer Awareness Month! It's a bash! at June 07, 2023 07:27 PM (/BX3R)

217 202 Ha, yeah, it would be a crappy study, but I bet it's been done. Probably 100 years ago or whenever they really started researching this kind of thing and understanding this sort of stuff.

Posted by: Join Moron Robbie in Celebrating Groomer Awareness Month! It's a bash!

With the Brooklyn Bridge there was a lot of confusion because some men got "caisson disease" and other's didn't after the same period under pressure. Massive variability.

Posted by: Mr. Gorlopis at June 07, 2023 07:23 PM (/Fdqd)

I later experimentally determined ze parameters involved mit zis!

Posted by: Dr. Mengele at June 07, 2023 07:27 PM (AMIL/)

218 Good evening gentlemen I need $1.875 M for an OV-10 Bronco.

We should all chip in and buy her one. I got... like 18 dollars in change?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 07, 2023 07:27 PM (0hOvj)

219 My thinking straight away was the boot is a decoy

Posted by: Skip at June 07, 2023 07:28 PM (xhxe8)

220 NOOD.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Detective at June 07, 2023 07:28 PM (PiwSw)

221
But old damage and stress with too much weight behind it, maybe.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 07, 2023 07:24 PM

Add in lack of maintenance or inspection. The best cement possible is about 5,000 psi. Years later it's nowhere near that. In Philly they tear down stadiums after 30 years.

But I suspect that might be a political payback to unions.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 07, 2023 07:28 PM (enJYY)

222 Probably 100 years ago or whenever they really started researching this kind of thing and understanding this sort of stuff.
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It was a problem with the [Irish] workers building the Brooklyn Bridge on the [obviously] underwater parts.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 07, 2023 07:28 PM (Vwz3I)

223 Dale Stark @DaleStarkA10
Good evening gentlemen I need $1.875 M for an OV-10 Bronco.

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Aww, I wish him the best. That's always been in my top five favorite airplanes just because it was a model I had when I was a little kid.

I flew thousands of missions in that sucker.

Posted by: Join Moron Robbie in Celebrating Groomer Awareness Month! It's a bash! at June 07, 2023 07:28 PM (/BX3R)

224 Did one of Hunter Biden's companies get a no-bid contract to rebuild the dam?

Posted by: Cui bono? Or just plain Bono? at June 07, 2023 07:29 PM (fiChp)

225 218 Good evening gentlemen I need $1.875 M for an OV-10 Bronco.

We should all chip in and buy her one. I got... like 18 dollars in change?
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 07, 2023 07:27 PM (0hOvj)

/Checks under sofa cushions for change...

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 07, 2023 07:29 PM (oHd/0)

226 "We are pretty much the only country that has the submarines and technology to do it..."

The average depth of the Baltic Sea is less than 200 feet, a WWI U-Boat with some slightly trained Sea Scouts probably could have pulled it off.

Posted by: Captain Nemo, aground off Gadansk at June 07, 2023 07:29 PM (rpirE)

227 Years later it's nowhere near that. In Philly they tear down stadiums after 30 years.

They need to use the same recipe as the Romans, that concrete only gets stronger!b

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 07, 2023 07:30 PM (0hOvj)

228 Hey, Maybe they should fill them with helium to prevent sag?
Posted by: Mr. Gorlopis at June 07, 2023 07:09 PM

Breast implants filled with helium?
I'm nominating you for the Nobel [...] prize in every category.
Posted by: Divide by Zero

Physics, Chemistry, Physiology or Medicine, Economics and Peace. Yes.

Literature might be reaching a bit.

Posted by: mikeski at June 07, 2023 07:30 PM (DgGvY)

229 To Everyone asking HOW the Ukes could have blown it,

Well, they control one side of upstream territory. All they need is a low profile remote operated craft to float down, get close, and sink.

I still have doubts the Ukes did it, but they could have very easily. They have blown up Russian ships with remote craft, and this seems much easier.

Posted by: george Costanza at June 07, 2023 07:30 PM (/Fdqd)

230 So the far left - I mean the far far left - are all abuzz that Trump will be indicted and arrested any second for the Mar-Lago document non-crime thingy - or is it "obstruction?" Why the hold up, you ask? Surely the case has long since been presented to the so-called grand jury at this stage. Is there new evidence? Nope.

The reason is that the Grand Jury judge in this case must instruct the jury as to what is a crime and what is not - you cannot obstruct what is not a crime. So, the grand jury judge in this case can pretend a crime has been committed. But wait! False determinations of crimes - when known to be false by judiciary or LE - are - gulp - a felony under federal statutes. So, hence the 6-month hold up- how does this judge get around that? You can't obstruct what is not a crime and the GJ judge knows it and is required to instruct it and enforce it - knowing it wasn't a crime beforehand and still trying someone may be construed as a crime in of itself. Oops - oopsie! Hence the delay.

Posted by: Boswell at June 07, 2023 07:30 PM (K+UlC)

231 Give me one boot, Vassily. One boot only.

Posted by: Captain Ramius at June 07, 2023 07:31 PM (xxG/v)

232 #191 A thread here about it being poor maintenance and previous damage and e.g. the dam had been overtopping just this May 2023 [and too low in February]. A longish thread.

Twatter:
https://tinyurl.com/mteyas5n

"Unrolled" as a regular webpage:
https://tinyurl.com/24ypdz46

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 07, 2023 07:32 PM (Vwz3I)

233
Please leave Panama Beach alone.

Posted by: Auspex at June 07, 2023 07:34 PM (j4U/Z)

234 I think you (a) overestimate the precision to which this stuff is understood, and (b) underestimate the variability from person to person, day to day, etc.

So they pick really safe numbers and put them on the table for all.
Posted by: Mr. Gorlopis

Herr Fauci knows.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 07, 2023 07:34 PM (28MyZ)

235 Without reading the comments, typical I know, both Mike Davis and John Solomon have indicated what we suspected all along. The raid was for *all* the Crossfire Hurricane docs which implicates all the big players in a conspiracy.

Did not DJT reassert his federal government suit for same after having been dismissed?

If I was in a popcorn mood it would be Orville's Original, but too angry, so I went with some Voodoo Ranger Imperial (it's got electro.... uh, pine needles) IPA and I stopped liquor recently.

My American Spirit smokes go with me to my coughing, hacking grave. BTW, there's not a cough in a carload as the expense makes it easy to smoke the same cig over time like my take on weed.

Mike Davis really puts the facts, welcome to the party. His comments haven't changed regarding Trump.

There is no law, however.

Like Nick Memphis (Shooter) calling HQ after Bob Lee rescued him and calling from the Interstate in MT.

Boss: We're the FBI, Nick.
Nick: Yeah, I know. Like I said things have become complicated...

Posted by: micky at June 07, 2023 07:35 PM (3byMq)

236
Don't divers ever maintain dams? So it could have been lost by someone a long time ago who's now yelling "Hey! There's my boot!"

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 07, 2023 07:35 PM (lCaJd)

237 Not wishing, just saying.

Like to hear Barky's soaring rhetoric at the gallows. His one chance to come clean and we'll hear ififififififififif followed by weak-assed crying and a hinge letting go.

Well, bye!

nts: ixnay on the otay, hurray.

Posted by: micky at June 07, 2023 07:40 PM (3byMq)

238 The chutzpah to me is the possible indictment of Trump in light of the discovery of unsecured restricted papers held by Biden in multiple locations.

Posted by: polynikes at June 07, 2023 07:43 PM (QJGMB)

239 They need to use the same recipe as the Romans, that concrete only gets stronger!b

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 07, 2023 07:30 PM (0hOvj)

Care to share that recipe?

Posted by: Reforger at June 07, 2023 07:45 PM (B705c)

240 Care to share that recipe?

They have only recently finally been able to decode this stuff. Sea Water and a certain kind of stone appears to have been completely accidental on the Romans' part but its amazing stuff

https://tinyurl.com/4w32a3ny

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 07, 2023 07:51 PM (0hOvj)

241
Das Boot!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 07, 2023 08:41 PM (pNxlR)

242 Poo Tin left the boot there to confuse us.

Posted by: torabora at June 07, 2023 08:47 PM (OUiUM)

243 Anybody find my boot, please return it.

Posted by: Benedict Biden at June 07, 2023 09:02 PM (OUiUM)

244 The Danes have photos of a Russian ship and large Yacht that spent 7 days over the site of the explosions at Nordstream, and left just before the pipelines were blown, and went to a Russian port.

Posted by: Quartermaster at June 07, 2023 10:32 PM (J0tKB)

245 Its not a boot used by 'Navy Divers'. Its not necessarily even a boot used by divers. It could just as well be some trash tossed off a ship.

And its not exactly hard to miss stuff down there - there's a lot of ocean. No one actually knows where the boot was found in relation to the pipeline either.

Finally, you think the US blew it up when the pipeline sat cold for several months - allowing hydrate buildup - and with Russians *notable* for having horrible engineering practice (especially in the oil field)?

They blew their own pipeline up - accidentally. Its why they haven't been freaking out about it. Its why Europe hasn't been freaking out about it.

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Posted by: Charles Daniel at June 08, 2023 05:42 AM (JqEBT)

247 The CIA would never have anything to do with this...

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