Steve Miller at RCI: Why Are Republicans Such Boomer N00bs At Gathering Absentee Votes?

We're not as good at voter fraud as the Democrats. And that's a problem, because voter fraud is now legal.

After President Trump's defeat in 2020, Republican-led legislatures worked to turn back the emergency voting measures in many states, to mixed success, and -- after an expected GOP wave fizzled in 2022 -- the Republican Party has turned away from Trump's vilification of absentee voting to essentially say, "If you can't beat 'em, join 'em."
"We don't want to wait till the fourth quarter to start scoring touchdowns when you have four quarters to put points on the board," Republican National Committee chairwoman Ronna McDaniel said last month in promoting the new strategy. "We have to change the culture among Republican voters."
But a range of factors suggest that Republicans are a long way from implementing that change. This impression emerges from interviews with election veterans from both parties in a number of pivotal states; disclosures about the left's prodigious fundraising for private assistance to local election offices; and Democrats' reinvigorated focus on community organizing in dense urban areas. The latter is a tradition reaching back more than a century but exploited in recent cycles to overwhelm the GOP's onetime edge in collecting absentee ballots from the elderly and members of the armed forces.
"The left is about 20 years ahead on getting these votes," said Michael Bars, executive director of the conservative Election Transparency Initiative. "You can say it's an absentee, get-out-the-vote model, an absentee ballot chase or ballot harvesting. But they're ahead."
And catching up isn't easy, an RNC official said, speaking on the condition of anonymity in giving a grim assessment of a ground game still unfamiliar to the GOP.
"Strangers going door-to-door met with a ton of resistance from Republican voters," the official said. He was referring to a strategy shift in 2016 when "the RNC changed its field structure to resemble the work that the Obama campaign did in 2008 and 2012 by focusing on training people to be organizers, to put together teams that were part of the community." It turned out that, with Republicans tending to live in suburban developments, soliciting was frowned upon, and even prohibited, while the Democrats were, as ever, more welcome in urban settings, visiting apartment buildings, public libraries, and residential centers.
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"We got our asses handed to us," said Jessica Millan Patterson, chair of California's Republican Party, whose 2019 election to office was in part based on her vow to embrace harvesting for the party and avenge the Orange County defeat. "Democrats in California have normalized what would be considered voter fraud in the rest of the country. If I had my way, harvesting would be illegal, but we have to win more elections if we want to change laws."
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Critics of the GOP's newfound strategy of ballot collection contend that it may be too late, at least to win in 2024.
"The nature of the left is to never stop fighting and usually their fight is smart," said Scott Walter, president of the conservative Capital Research Center, which studies the influence of nonprofits on politics. "They have multiple think tanks dedicated to nothing but winning elections. And there are no Republican counterparts."
While Republicans will engage in the same practices as their foes, "harvesting for Republicans won't work," said Der Manouel, the former vice chair of the California GOP.
"Republican voters don't need to have their vote harvested. The only reason it works for Democrats is because they could never turn out their voters. What's going to happen is Republicans are going to start doing this and find that they don't have nearly enough ballots to harvest to make a difference."

Last month, Ben Weingarten warned that the GOP still has no plan to win in the new fraud-friendly environment. Other than Trump and DeSantis both saying they'll engage in the despicable practice of "ballot harvesting" -- basically, voter fraud -- no one has any answers as to how they can win a "fortified" election.

And you'll never out-fraud the Democrats.

The million-dollar question for 2024 contenders is: How will you win the general election under the present voting system?

There is one fundamental question that any candidate vying for the Republican nomination for president of the United States in 2024 must answer -- but that as of yet has gone largely unaddressed, at least publicly, as the field spars over significant but ultimately subordinate issues.
The question is this: How will you win the general election under the present voting system?
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Over the last two election cycles, Republicans lost in historically aberrant if not unprecedented ways. That, or they underachieved relative to what conditions on the ground would have suggested. Political analysts have pointed to numerous factors to explain why the results broke the way they did, but perhaps the one constant in the presidential and midterm elections was that they were both held under a radically transformed voting system.
Democrats are so well-positioned to thrive under this system that even under the most favorable political circumstances, and with a "perfect" Republican presidential candidate, it is not at all clear that such a candidate would prevail. At least that is the prudent assumption under which Republicans serious about winning the presidency should be operating.
As Americans well know, we are lightyears removed from the election days of old -- singular days when people voted in person, on paper ballots, after presenting identification. Now, we have mass mail-in elections, conducted over weeks, where those voting in person often do so on electronic machines, and with lax identification standards.
Democrats largely developed and long fought for this system, willing it into existence under the cover of Covid-19. Naturally, they have successfully manipulated and exploited the voting regime they made.
Ballot harvesting is becoming an accepted norm. Candidates not only have to earn votes but figure out how to collect as many votes as they possibly can. Are Republicans overnight going to out-harvest their opponents, or figure out some new means to identify and turn out voters otherwise sitting on the sidelines in sufficient numbers to overcome Democrats' ballot-harvesting superiority?
"Zuckerbucks" continue to loom over our contests as well, despite bans in many states. The left is doing everything it can to steer private money toward public election administration -- administration done in conjunction with left-wing nongovernmental organizations (NGOs) seemingly targeting the Democrat ballots needed to win.
The Biden administration is working to leverage federal agencies to mobilize presumed Democrat voters as well -- also potentially in conjunction with the same NGOs -- under a March 2021 executive order, "Promoting Access to Voting," that has remained shrouded in mystery as the bureaucracy stonewalls over inquiries about its implementation. Republicans have started to engage in election administration, but largely in the context of monitoring over execution. What is the plan to combat Democrat control over election machinery?

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1 First?

Posted by: hobbitopoly at July 17, 2023 06:44 PM (6xRrr)

2 And you'll never out-fraud the Democrats.

Maybe. But it's inexcusable to not even try.

As near as I can tell, for Republicans campaigning largely means filling up my mailbox with spam mailings that no one reads.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at July 17, 2023 06:44 PM (ppBhU)

3 Fly Like An Eagle > Ballot Harvesting

Posted by: Mark1971 at July 17, 2023 06:45 PM (xPl2J)

4 And that's a problem, because voter fraud is now legal.

Well the courts didn't even bother allowing a case to come to them to judge this so how can it be illegal to do? Its clearly what Republicans have to do and when the ballot count is 175% of the voter population, well then we see what happens.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 17, 2023 06:47 PM (0hOvj)

5 hiya

Posted by: JT at July 17, 2023 06:50 PM (T4tVD)

6 This is a big part of why Biden & Co. are so much using this in your face style of governance.
If you were trying to destroy the republic, what would be done differently?

Posted by: uniparty, Raping and Mutilating the Children They Don't Kill at July 17, 2023 06:50 PM (0q+t6)

7 Just gotta vote harder.

Posted by: Vote vote vote! at July 17, 2023 06:53 PM (uoAlb)

8 The only hope to win is to get 85% of the Independents and get every Republican to vote straight R. And work on voter turn out for other D Leaning Areas.

We have to outvote the fraud.

Posted by: Czech Chick at July 17, 2023 06:54 PM (6Tc2R)

9 Voter fraud is extremely rare
Close to the number of transgender surgeries (est. 35) performed each year in the US

Posted by: Paul at July 17, 2023 06:54 PM (mn/HW)

10 Everyone knows that there is cheating in elections and everyone knows who cheats. Yet it is verboten to do anything about it. The cheaters think it is justified and the non-cheaters are afraid of being called names, I guess.

Posted by: Javems at July 17, 2023 06:55 PM (AmoqO)

11 Scott Presler, Early Vote Action on GOP registration, ballot harvesting

https://tinyurl.com/yxx5u8df

Posted by: redridinghood at July 17, 2023 06:56 PM (NpAcC)

12 Make Democrats Cheat Harder!

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 17, 2023 06:56 PM (RH6eh)

13 Don't forget to be a good little Luddite when you cast your next vote.

Posted by: Marooned at July 17, 2023 06:56 PM (kt8QE)

14 Fraud is legal for them, not for you. Try it and find out.

Posted by: Keep Movin On at July 17, 2023 06:56 PM (n2ffX)

15 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 17, 2023 06:58 PM (+sD5M)

16 Voter fraud is only legal for Democrats. If one fraudulent GOP ballot is harvested anywhere, that will be a"threat to democracy" and every GOP candidate will be forced to repudiate GOP ballot harvesting as racist, and probably Russian collusion too.

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at July 17, 2023 06:58 PM (d9Cw3)

17 Yeah, voting is done. American democracy died in November 2016, when the "elite" decided the American people were unworthy of them.

We'll have to see how much stomach the American people have for living under an utterly incompetent and contemptuous kleptocracy. Once you eliminate the soapbox, and the ballot box, the only thing left is the cartridge box.

And yet our leaders seem utterly unbothered by that last option. It's almost as if they know something we don't........

Posted by: Sloucho at July 17, 2023 06:59 PM (6ztzK)

18 9
36 counting you.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 17, 2023 07:00 PM (roH4R)

19 All we have to do is overwhelm the Democrat vote-counters, Democrat Secretaries of State, and the Democrat election judges! They'll have to give the elections to us!

Posted by: t-bird at July 17, 2023 07:00 PM (CaJIi)

20 14 Fraud is legal for them, not for you. Try it and find out.
Posted by: Keep Movin On at July 17, 2023 06:56 PM (n2ffX)

Yuuuuuup. Two Americas. It's a big club and you ain't in it.

Posted by: Peasants and royalty! at July 17, 2023 07:00 PM (uoAlb)

21 Steve Miller at RCI: Why Are Republicans Such Boomer N00bs At Gathering Absentee Votes?

Our faulty memories of the 50s cripples us.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 17, 2023 07:01 PM (aD39U)

22 I saw Steve Miller open for Howlin Wolf at the Kingston Mines in Chicago in 1969.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 17, 2023 07:01 PM (R/m4+)

23 Everyone knows that there is cheating in elections and everyone knows who cheats. Yet it is verboten to do anything about it. The cheaters think it is justified and the non-cheaters are afraid of being called names, I guess.
Posted by: Javems at July 17, 2023 06:55 PM (AmoqO)

And if you call out their cheating they'll call you crazy.

Posted by: JmT at July 17, 2023 07:01 PM (18RTj)

24 Shorter Boomer Noobs = Boobs

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 17, 2023 07:02 PM (4I/2K)

25 LOL!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - these lying liars have been lying for decades at July 17, 2023 07:02 PM (GGQV4)

26 The next election, should the GOP figure it out, will show 234 MILLION ballots tabulated and Dems will still win.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 17, 2023 07:02 PM (+sD5M)

27 I call him Maurice, not Steve Miller.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 17, 2023 07:02 PM (hxAeV)

28 Oh....and you no noodin bastages.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 17, 2023 07:03 PM (+sD5M)

29 So sad

So true

Posted by: Zeera. 'We want fun and we wanna get wasted!' at July 17, 2023 07:03 PM (VefU6)

30 I would rather see Republican candidates spending money on ballot harvesting than mailing me a glossy ad for 14 straight days after I've already early voted. Also, hitting the trailer parks for extra votes would get more GOP ballots cast than robo-calling landlines with stupid push polls.

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at July 17, 2023 07:03 PM (d9Cw3)

31 Voter fraud is now legal, just not for us.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 17, 2023 07:03 PM (ynpvh)

32 Speaking of boobs

How goes the current trail derailment in Philly that is leaking silicone pellets?

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 17, 2023 07:03 PM (RH6eh)

33 For those who haven't read it, this is what Michigan "elections" look like now:

https://ballotpedia.org/Michigan_Proposal_2,
_Voting_Policies_in_Constitution_Amendment_(2022)

Permanent drop boxes, elimination of precinct counts (ballots are collected and counted "regionally" by the nearest dem-controlled city gov't), 10 total election days for every Ballot Theater performance, and only the SecState can challenge election results.

No transparency, maximum opacity, and no recourse if things look hinky. There is no assurance at all that the results match actual voter intent, and you're racist for asking. If they haven't done it in your state, they will soon.

Posted by: leoncaruthers at July 17, 2023 07:03 PM (UfRqq)

34 9 Voter fraud is extremely rare
Close to the number of transgender surgeries (est. 35) performed each year in the US and the amount of time my head spends not in my ass

Posted by: Paul at July 17, 2023 07:03 PM (us2H3)

35 How goes the current trail derailment in Philly that is leaking silicone pellets?
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It's bouncing along.

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at July 17, 2023 07:04 PM (krqg6)

36 Shut up, Dunce.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 17, 2023 07:04 PM (aD39U)

37 Let it burn, perhaps?

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at July 17, 2023 07:04 PM (wzAuc)

38 26 The next election, should the GOP figure it out, will show 234 MILLION ballots tabulated and Dems will still win.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 17, 2023 07:02 PM (+sD5M)

What if we add the Indian (dot) vote to the tally? I mean, 1.4 billion people should help, right?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 17, 2023 07:04 PM (ynpvh)

39 You could put scott Presler in charge since he seems to know how to register voters and put up ballot harvesting sites. He actually wants to win.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 17, 2023 07:04 PM (ouTlx)

40 Posted by: Paul at July 17, 2023 06:54 PM (mn/HW)

You DICK!!!!

Posted by: Jeff Spicoli at July 17, 2023 07:04 PM (+sD5M)

41 The GOP has to do a better job on Election Day and vote tabulation monitoring.

Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2023 07:05 PM (5e0cQ)

42 The Low-T GOP is laying the groundwork for "Failure Theatre 2024"

Posted by: topdog at July 17, 2023 07:05 PM (rZslB)

43 Voter fraud is only legal for Democrats. If one fraudulent GOP ballot is harvested anywhere, that will be a"threat to democracy" and every GOP candidate will be forced to repudiate GOP ballot harvesting as racist, and probably Russian collusion too.
Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at July 17, 2023 06:58 PM (d9Cw3)

People claim Mitch McConnell wouldn't have won his most recent election without voter fraud. I don't know if that's true or not, but I could easily believe there are places overwhelmingly controlled by Republicans, where they ensure their victories by less than legal means.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 17, 2023 07:05 PM (hxAeV)

44 As I was looking up the population of India, saw a headline that said, "1/10th of India's population escaped poverty in the last 5 years"...first thought was, "What, they died?"

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 17, 2023 07:05 PM (ynpvh)

45 The GOP has to do a better job on Election Day and vote tabulation monitoring.

Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2023 07:05 PM (5e0cQ)

If conservatives are kicked out of the tabulation rooms, go scorched earth.

That shit was illegal as HELL and nothing was done about it.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 17, 2023 07:06 PM (+sD5M)

46 Can we just re-name this party the Washington Generals and be done with it?

Posted by: topdog at July 17, 2023 07:06 PM (rZslB)

47
Listen... give me your actual name and in less then a minute I can find your voter registration information and decide whether to accept your ballet or toss it in the trash.

This is the reality we live in.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at July 17, 2023 07:06 PM (enJYY)

48 Ripple isn't produced any more. What do Dems trade for votes in the hood and on skid row?

Posted by: No More Champipple, Either at July 17, 2023 07:06 PM (T0tUU)

49 We're not as good at voter fraud as the Democrats. And that's a problem, because voter fraud is now legal.

We're not as good because all the unclaimed votes are in blue urban areas. Harvesting voted from their is basically poaching...and suddenly, laws will be VIGOROUSLY enforced.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at July 17, 2023 07:07 PM (NCgXW)

50 Everyone knows that there is cheating in elections and everyone knows who cheats. Yet it is verboten to do anything about it.

The Conservative Case for the 1982 Consent Decree!

Posted by: t-bird at July 17, 2023 07:07 PM (CaJIi)

51 We never had problems like this back in the 50s

Posted by: DB - at July 17, 2023 07:07 PM (geLO8)

52 weird, innit, how all the "conspiracy theories" have been coming true, and all of the "pravda" shoveled out by big uniparty is visibly a pathetic pack of lies without any trace of contact with reality.

LOL

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - these lying liars have been lying for decades at July 17, 2023 07:07 PM (GGQV4)

53 We never had problems like this back in the 50s
Posted by: DB - at July 17, 2023 07:07 PM

Uh oh.....

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 17, 2023 07:07 PM (+sD5M)

54

Well we had different problems then like "you don't get to vote, n*****" and "we cast all your votes for you, Union members"

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 17, 2023 07:08 PM (0hOvj)

55 Ripple isn't produced any more. What do Dems trade for votes in the hood and on skid row?
Posted by: No More Champipple, Either at July 17, 2023 07:06 PM (T0tUU)

Hunter is on the Federal Crack Distribution Board.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 17, 2023 07:08 PM (+sD5M)

56 I'll just leave this here if anyone is still interested:

"Biden’s Inexplicable Victory
We examine a series of unprecedented anomalies that overturned more than 200 years of U.S. election history."

https://tinyurl.com/2f4zwotg

There are some great ones there, and a couple I forgot. Like:

"Historically, the registration-by-party trend is a very reliable predictor of the election outcome. New and crossover registrations are the best proxy for both voting intention and actual voting behavior. In 2020, Republicans achieved massive registration gains vis-à-vis the Democrats across almost all competitive states. Notably, in 2020 voter registrations in the swing states of Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin—won by Trump four years earlier—each trended toward more Republicans registering, foreshadowing an even more favorable electoral environment for Trump than in 2016.

...However, when the ballots were cast, only 20 of those 67 counties trended toward Trump—which is the opposite of what one would expect. The official results reported Biden winning Pennsylvania with 50.01 percent of the recorded votes."

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The EPA has determined US has cooled since 1948 at July 17, 2023 07:08 PM (9ULwW)

57 That shit was illegal as HELL and nothing was done about it.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 17, 2023 07:06 PM (+sD5M)

Yes there was. The cops were called to keep them out.

Posted by: Keep Movin On at July 17, 2023 07:08 PM (n2ffX)

58 39, 50, this!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - these lying liars have been lying for decades at July 17, 2023 07:08 PM (GGQV4)

59 the GOP is fine with cheating because they don't want to answer to their icky constituents.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(2YtOq) at July 17, 2023 07:09 PM (2YtOq)

60 Voter fraud prosecution is fairly rare. Voter fraud is huge in urban centers. If Paul's brain was as limber as his body where he learned to give himself blow jobs he would be able to connect the dots.

Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2023 07:09 PM (5e0cQ)

61 The question is this: How will you win the general election under the present voting system?
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The occupation government in DC is not going to be removed by an electoral process.

Posted by: Methos at July 17, 2023 07:09 PM (kOpft)

62 That shit was illegal as HELL and nothing was done about it.
Posted by: Sponge

No Standing and then Moot.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 17, 2023 07:09 PM (xyh5O)

63 There's a reason why Florida and Ohio became more reliably Republican from 2000 to now. Their elections were under scrutiny due to them basically deciding a few elections in a row. They had to make sure their process was clean. Note Rick Scott threatening investigation and prosecution of the turd-stirrer down in Broward County when she was trying to scrounge up enough votes to get the gay drug addict into the governor's seat in 2018.

Georgia made some moves to clean up their elections after the shenanigan pulling in 2020.

To clean up the process, the Republicans need to take control of the state legislatures and governor's seats in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan and Arizona and do the same things that Florida and Ohio have done. The GOP is never going to be able to outharvest and outfraud the Democrats.

Eventually the results from corrupt elections is the election of corrupt people who got where they are due to corruption and not competency. The end result is Detroit, which is where Philly and Baltimore almost are and Chicago, San Francisco, Minneapolis, Seattle and Portland are rushing towards. That causes capital and people to flee.

Posted by: Trich at July 17, 2023 07:10 PM (7wCmd)

64 Hey, Paul. Fuck off.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 17, 2023 07:10 PM (BdMk6)

65 No Standing and then Moot.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 17, 2023 07:09 PM (xyh5O)

Unripe then overripe.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 17, 2023 07:10 PM (aD39U)

66 New game, new rules.
We didn't make the rules.
Adapt or die, looks like.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at July 17, 2023 07:10 PM (MeG8a)

67 Manischipple was tasty, too.

Posted by: Fortified Wino at July 17, 2023 07:10 PM (T0tUU)

68 Oh this guy is just a full of shit doomer eeyore.

Posted by: JROD at July 17, 2023 07:10 PM (IlL6s)

69 >>"We don't want to wait till the fourth quarter to start scoring touchdowns when you have four quarters to put points on the board," Republican National Committee chairwoman Ronna McDaniel

OK, Knute.

What is she, from 1950s?

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at July 17, 2023 07:10 PM (y80Qb)

70 It's people vs ballots with no known recipient getting all funneled into a fraud machine. You are not going to beat tens of thousands of ballots sent out never to be opened by a legal person

Posted by: Skip at July 17, 2023 07:11 PM (xhxe8)

71 What is she, from 1950s?
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at July 17, 2023 07:10 PM (y80Qb)

Don't be ridiculous. No one alive remembers the 1950s.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 17, 2023 07:11 PM (aD39U)

72 People claim Mitch McConnell wouldn't have won his most recent election without voter fraud. I don't know if that's true or not, but I could easily believe there are places overwhelmingly controlled by Republicans, where they ensure their victories by less than legal means.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 17, 2023 07:05 PM (hxAeV)

Mitch didn't need fraud to win. There are more than enough idiots here to ensure his election time and again.

Posted by: JmT at July 17, 2023 07:11 PM (18RTj)

73 Ripple isn't produced any more. What do Dems trade for votes in the hood and on skid row?
Posted by: No More Champipple

MD 20/20.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 17, 2023 07:12 PM (xyh5O)

74 ...However, when the ballots were cast, only 20 of those 67 counties trended toward Trump—which is the opposite of what one would expect. The official results reported Biden winning Pennsylvania with 50.01 percent of the recorded votes."
Posted by: Moron Robbie - The EPA has determined US has cooled since 1948 at July 17, 2023 07:08 PM (9ULwW)
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One of the statistical anomalies pointed out was: vote dumps. There were way too many dumps of votes which did not reflect the makeup of districts. If a district is 60/40 D, vote tabulation should track pretty closely. They did not. The votes tended to dump in one direction and it wasn't GOP.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(2YtOq) at July 17, 2023 07:12 PM (2YtOq)

75 GOPe doesn’t want to win with the wrong candidates. 2nd place still puts a lot of money into back pockets. And who wants all those icky votes from the Base?

Posted by: JackWayne at July 17, 2023 07:12 PM (tMsXg)

76 Where's the people that call me eeyore for saying this very thing? Step the fuck up........Archimedes, Kindltot, where the F are you?

Posted by: JROD at July 17, 2023 07:12 PM (IlL6s)

77 No Standing and then Moot.

My bananas go from green to black.

Posted by: Chiquita at July 17, 2023 07:13 PM (T0tUU)

78 >>"Strangers going door-to-door met with a ton of resistance from Republican voters," the official said.

Wow, blame the voters. What a capital idea!

Posted by: RNC at July 17, 2023 07:13 PM (y80Qb)

79 Maybe some of the Trump supporters can conduct some ballot harvesting instead of just bitching about it.

That would be fantastic. Steer that passion into results.

Posted by: Cashin at July 17, 2023 07:13 PM (tQ+qk)

80 In 2020, the courts basically gave their permission to do whatever fraud the parties wish to do from that time forward.

It didn't matter how many states broke their own election laws. It didn't matter how many signature verification systems were essentially turned off. It didn't matter how many ballots were found to be printed on paper the ballot printers don't use. It didn't matter how many polling locations gave incorrect voting information. It didn't matter how many polling locations blocked election monitors from seeing what the vote counters were doing. It didn't matter how many vote machines were illegally connected to the internet. It didn't matter how many mules were found with blank ballots. It didn't matter how many experts proved irregularities using math.

The courts looked at all of that and said, "Eh, what do you want us to do? Unwind an election? Not going to happen. We see nothing amiss here"

Posted by: bonhomme at July 17, 2023 07:13 PM (R38qh)

81 at least they are axing the question

Posted by: runner at July 17, 2023 07:13 PM (V13WU)

82 Well the courts didn't even bother allowing a case to come to them to judge this so how can it be illegal to do?

The same DAs who don't prosecute Dem voter fraud will be only too happy to prosecute Rep voter fraud. And when pointed out and called hypocrites, they'll just shrug and smile like Castreau in that video in the previous thread.

Posted by: Oddbob at July 17, 2023 07:13 PM (nfrXX)

83 Maybe some of the Trump supporters can conduct some ballot harvesting instead of just bitching about it.

That would be fantastic. Steer that passion into results.
Posted by: Cashin at July 17, 2023 07:13 PM (tQ+qk)

Do other candidates voters get a pass?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 17, 2023 07:14 PM (aD39U)

84 People claim Mitch McConnell wouldn't have won his most recent election without voter fraud. I don't know if that's true or not, but I could easily believe there are places overwhelmingly controlled by Republicans, where they ensure their victories by less than legal means.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 17, 2023 07:05 PM (hxAeV)

All I heard was that his was one of the few districts in the state that used Dominion machines in the vote.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2023 07:15 PM (eoQWY)

85 Remember, it doesn't matter what protections are put in place: Those in power regularly flout those rules.

See: Maricopa county, AZ.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(2YtOq) at July 17, 2023 07:15 PM (2YtOq)

86 The federal government is broke, most people under the age of 40 cannot read, write or wash their ass properly and are unemployable, our skools are full of sexual deviants and Joe Biden serves his paymasters from overseas.

Voting ain’t changing none of it.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 17, 2023 07:15 PM (R/m4+)

87 In 2020, the courts basically gave their permission to do whatever fraud ~~the parties~~ The Party wish to do from that time forward.

Edited for accuracy.

Posted by: Oddbob at July 17, 2023 07:16 PM (nfrXX)

88 90% registered voter turnout nationally is as near an impossibility as you can get.

Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2023 07:16 PM (5e0cQ)

89 Don't be ridiculous. No one alive remembers the 1950s.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 17, 2023 07:11 PM (aD39U)

LOL

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 17, 2023 07:16 PM (BdMk6)

90 52 weird, innit, how all the "conspiracy theories" have been coming true, and all of the "pravda" shoveled out by big uniparty is visibly a pathetic pack of lies without any trace of contact with reality.

LOL
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - these lying liars have been lying for decades at July 17, 2023 07:07 PM (GGQV4)

Need a sign that says...

Its been ' ' days since the last conspiracy theory was proven true.

Would constantly have to have a Zero in the blank space.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 17, 2023 07:16 PM (oHd/0)

91

Hairyback,

Yep, that's how I see it.

Posted by: four seasons at July 17, 2023 07:17 PM (ichPI)

92 Do other candidates voters get a pass?
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 17, 2023 07:14 PM (aD39U)

Not if they're the nominee.

Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2023 07:17 PM (5e0cQ)

93 The Dem's electoral fraud is mainly targeted at specific inner-city precincts in swing/battleground states where accusations of fraud can be trumped by counter-accusations of racism.

Secondary targets are university/college campuses and Indian reservations in swing/battleground states.

Posted by: davidt at July 17, 2023 07:17 PM (SYTee)

94 90% registered voter turnout nationally is as near an impossibility as you can get.

Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2023 07:16 PM (5e0cQ)

People were just THAT PASSIONATE about high energy Joe Biden.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 17, 2023 07:17 PM (+sD5M)

95 "Strangers going door-to-door met with a ton of resistance from Republican voters," the official said. He was referring to a strategy shift in 2016 when "the RNC changed its field structure to resemble the work that the Obama campaign did in 2008 and 2012 by focusing on training people to be organizers, to put together teams that were part of the community.

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And I have no problem saying that didn't "get out" any more voters than before, but it was only establishing a narrative to justify the numbers that came in after cheating.

"Door to door" BS doesn't magically get uninvolved people suddenly interested in politics. It creates news articles (see also: Roe vs. Wade overturned) and propaganda that justifies the numbers gained through cheating. Nothing more, nothing less.

They're doing it with student loans as we speak.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The EPA has determined US has cooled since 1948 at July 17, 2023 07:18 PM (9ULwW)

96 Dream Weaving yes!
The left spoke loud and clear sending a serious message yo maga men and women. The lamestream media publisized it balls to the wall. J6 is being used to scare magas..

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at July 17, 2023 07:18 PM (fMQtT)

97 I don't know about the other candidates, but I know Tucker asked Nikki about voter fraud, and she went through a list of "concerns" or whatever, before saying she thought Biden was elected, fair and square.

Is any candidate OTHER than Trump willing to say the election was fraudulent?

Posted by: BurtTC at July 17, 2023 07:18 PM (hxAeV)

98 Well we had different problems then like "you don't get to vote, n*****" and "we cast all your votes for you, Union members"

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 17, 2023 07:08 PM (0hOvj)

Not much has changed.

Posted by: Reforger at July 17, 2023 07:18 PM (B705c)

99 87 In 2020, the courts basically gave their permission to do whatever fraud the parties The Party wish to do from that time forward.

Edited for accuracy.
Posted by: Oddbob at July 17, 2023 07:16 PM (nfrXX)

Most State judges are elected. Fed Judges, while appointed, still get paid by the Government.

Where do you think their allegiance REALLY lies.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 17, 2023 07:18 PM (oHd/0)

100 @79 Cashin-Trump voter here and ballot harvesting is exactly what I did in 2020. If I could print ballots and drive around and stuff them in boxes and hack Dominion machines I sure as f__K would.

Posted by: JROD at July 17, 2023 07:18 PM (IlL6s)

101 Sports Illustrated was so excited to post video of a "woman" (Brittney Griner) dunking a basketball, they ignored the fact that Griner took about four extra steps to do it.

https://tinyurl.com/5ksu9bh2

Posted by: bonhomme at July 17, 2023 07:18 PM (R38qh)

102 Remember, it doesn't matter what protections are put in place: Those in power regularly flout those rules.

See: Maricopa county, AZ.
Posted by: blake

Yup, the Abortion Mouse ruining the count and then threatening counties to either verify the election or go to jail with a felony.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 17, 2023 07:18 PM (xyh5O)

103 16 Voter fraud is only legal for Democrats. If one fraudulent GOP ballot is harvested anywhere, that will be a"threat to democracy" and every GOP candidate will be forced to repudiate GOP ballot harvesting as racist, and probably Russian collusion too.
Posted by: Buck Throckmorton

Worse, Republicans will go to prison.
As CRT says, we need to out fraud them, but then people will go to prison, so we can't.

Posted by: RNC at July 17, 2023 07:19 PM (y80Qb)

104 Sports Illustrated was so excited to post video of a "woman" (Brittney Griner) dunking a basketball, they ignored the fact that Griner took about four extra steps to do it.

https://tinyurl.com/5ksu9bh2
Posted by: bonhomme at July 17, 2023 07:18 PM (R38qh)

And the ball is smaller.

Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2023 07:19 PM (5e0cQ)

105 The votes tended to dump in one direction and it wasn't GOP.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(2YtOq) at July 17, 2023 07:12 PM (2YtOq)

Washington state. Over the last 30 years I have never seen a vote dump favor a republican.
Ever.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 17, 2023 07:19 PM (e4fEA)

106 Sports Illustrated was so excited to post video of a "woman" (Brittney Griner) dunking a basketball, they ignored the fact that Griner took about four extra steps to do it.

https://tinyurl.com/5ksu9bh2
Posted by: bonhomme at July 17, 2023 07:18 PM (R38qh)

So?

Posted by: LeBron James at July 17, 2023 07:19 PM (+sD5M)

107 filling up my mailbox with spam mailings that no one reads.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at July 17, 2023 06:44 PM (ppBhU)

We're up to two a day because we live in Iowa.

Posted by: pookysgirl, ashamed that the Corn Palace isn't in her state at July 17, 2023 07:20 PM (Q4ao1)

108 Back to the model building while listening to two hours of Muv-Luv BGM.

Nyah

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 17, 2023 07:20 PM (RH6eh)

109 Anyone else old enough to remember when Texas tried to say "hey, wait a minute, there are discrepancies here and we need to address this" and the SCOTUS said "states don't have standing in these cases!!!"

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The EPA has determined US has cooled since 1948 at July 17, 2023 07:20 PM (9ULwW)

110 102 Remember, it doesn't matter what protections are put in place: Those in power regularly flout those rules.

See: Maricopa county, AZ.
Posted by: blake

Yup, the Abortion Mouse ruining the count and then threatening counties to either verify the election or go to jail with a felony.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 17, 2023 07:18 PM (xyh5O)

Jan 6 was a watershed moment. The 'protesters' were just asking Congress to do, what they had done in the Past... look at the results, and see if they rang true... to stop and investigate.

Asking them to do what they had done, in the past, in now called an insurrection, and you are jailed for it.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 17, 2023 07:20 PM (oHd/0)

111 It doesn't help that only about a third of the electorate actually votes.

Posted by: davidt at July 17, 2023 07:20 PM (SYTee)

112
Here in Pennsylvania, when ~80,000 more ballots are cast then voters, you just power through that like a Friday night Gainzzz thread after skipping 'Leg Day' but still parking in the 'Leg Day' parking spot.

No apologizes, no explanation.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at July 17, 2023 07:21 PM (enJYY)

113 Romney Republicans are losers. Read my lips:

L.O.S.E.R.S

Posted by: Dr. Bone at July 17, 2023 07:21 PM (fY84s)

114 Sports Illustrated was so excited to post video of a "woman" (Brittney Griner) dunking a basketball, they ignored the fact that Griner took about four extra steps to do it.

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All that traveling and he's still a man, too.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The EPA has determined US has cooled since 1948 at July 17, 2023 07:21 PM (9ULwW)

115 And Washington State also goes out of its way to ensure most military overseas ballots are mailed out at the last possible moment, thus guaranteeing most will not return in time.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 17, 2023 07:21 PM (e4fEA)

116 Anyone else old enough to remember when Texas tried to say "hey, wait a minute, there are discrepancies here and we need to address this" and the SCOTUS said "states don't have standing in these cases!!!"
Posted by: Moron Robbie - The EPA has determined US has cooled since 1948 at July 17, 2023 07:20 PM (9ULwW)
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Yeah, AtC called that one. All those states stood up and said, "Wait a minute!"

"No Standing!" was the response.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(2YtOq) at July 17, 2023 07:21 PM (2YtOq)

117 They stole Arizona in 2022 to make sure they will be able to steal the country in 2024. It's no less simple than that.

Posted by: ... at July 17, 2023 07:21 PM (lX8VI)

118 104 Sports Illustrated was so excited to post video of a "woman" (Brittney Griner) dunking a basketball, they ignored the fact that Griner took about four extra steps to do it.

https://tinyurl.com/5ksu9bh2
Posted by: bonhomme at July 17, 2023 07:18 PM (R38qh)

And the ball is smaller.
Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2023 07:19 PM (5e0cQ)

And she's a man.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at July 17, 2023 07:21 PM (ppBhU)

119 > "Door to door" BS doesn't magically get uninvolved people suddenly interested in politics. It creates news articles (see also: Roe vs. Wade overturned) and propaganda that justifies the numbers gained through cheating. Nothing more, nothing less.

You're thinking of the before times. Now that the courts have placed their blessing on vote fraud, all you need to do is to "help" people fill out their ballots and "help" them get their ballots to the nearest ballot collection box.

Posted by: bonhomme at July 17, 2023 07:21 PM (R38qh)

120 --

All that traveling and he's still a man, too.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - The EPA has determined US has cooled since 1948 at July 17, 2023 07:21 PM (9ULwW)

And that HAIR.....

Posted by: Zombie Don Imus at July 17, 2023 07:22 PM (+sD5M)

121 94 90% registered voter turnout nationally is as near an impossibility as you can get.

Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2023 07:16 PM (5e0cQ)

People were just THAT PASSIONATE about high energy Joe Biden.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 17, 2023 07:17 PM (+sD5M)

Oh, that's nothing. Some urban dem zones got >100%. That was truly incredible.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 17, 2023 07:22 PM (ynpvh)

122 Since elections are won by whoever commits more fraud....

We need to beat the Democrats at their own game. We are smarter than they are, this shouldn't be difficult.

We need to harvest the ballots at the graveyard before the Democrats do. We need to register more pets, illegal aliens, cartoon characters, anime, ghosts, imaginary friends and multiple personalities and get their ballots.

We need to have mis-sized ballots that can't be read to be sent to D strongholds; to hack the Dominion voting machines and fortify votes; more burst pipes, more crates with blank ballots, more stuffing post offices boxes before, during and after the election season, more intimidation of voters, bribing of election officials, and judge shopping to get their blessings.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at July 17, 2023 07:22 PM (p8A+W)

123 Dream Weaving? Whoops that was Gary Wright ..
Ok then Steve Miller
Fly like an Eagle

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at July 17, 2023 07:22 PM (fMQtT)

124 Posted by: BurtTC at July 17, 2023 07:05 PM (hxAeV)

All I heard was that his was one of the few districts in the state that used Dominion machines in the vote.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2023 07:15 PM (eoQWY)

That's interesting. How does one justify that?

I'm also wondering if Kemp had a nice little operation going in Georgia. Maybe one where Democrats were allowed to get away with cheating Trump, cheating Walker in 22, and the two knuckleheads in 20, as long as they left his race alone.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 17, 2023 07:22 PM (hxAeV)

125 >>Do other candidates voters get a pass?

Seemingly always.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 17, 2023 07:22 PM (ZLI7S)

126 123 Dream Weaving? Whoops that was Gary Wright ..
Ok then Steve Miller
Fly like an Eagle
Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at July 17, 2023 07:22 PM (fMQtT)

Steve Miller... like.... take the money and run?

We aint the Bidens!!

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 17, 2023 07:23 PM (oHd/0)

127 Democrats engaging in ballot-harvesting. Funding from the National Democrat party.

Trump supporters engaging In ballot-harvesting. One way ticket to Jail.

Posted by: JmT at July 17, 2023 07:23 PM (18RTj)

128 Asking them to do what they had done, in the past, in now called an insurrection, and you are jailed for it.
Posted by: Romeo13 at July 17, 2023 07:20 PM (oHd/0)
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Those actions gave the green light to Junta persecution of political rivals.

Of course, milquetoast R's don't believe the Junta would ever turn on them.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(2YtOq) at July 17, 2023 07:23 PM (2YtOq)

129 You're thinking of the before times. Now that the courts have placed their blessing on vote fraud, all you need to do is to "help" people fill out their ballots and "help" them get their ballots to the nearest ballot collection box.

Posted by: bonhomme

--

It's a shame it's taken us 40+ years to catch on.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The EPA has determined US has cooled since 1948 at July 17, 2023 07:24 PM (9ULwW)

130 Steve Miller at RCI: Why Are Republicans Such Boomer N00bs At Gathering Absentee Votes?

Shit wasn't like this back in the 50s, Ace. Just was a better time.

Posted by: Rock Ribbed Republican at July 17, 2023 07:24 PM (5lvwS)

131 So, voting is pointless?

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at July 17, 2023 07:24 PM (Mzdiz)

132 Romney Republicans are losers. Read my lips:

L.O.S.E.R.S
Posted by: Dr. Bone at July 17, 2023 07:21 PM (fY84s)

Yet, there they are sitting in congress.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 17, 2023 07:24 PM (BdMk6)

133 You're thinking of the before times. Now that the courts have placed their blessing on vote fraud, all you need to do is to "help" people fill out their ballots and "help" them get their ballots to the nearest ballot collection box.

I find if the intended victim of your help is blissfully unaware of your assistance, things will move much smoother.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at July 17, 2023 07:24 PM (p8A+W)

134 A lot of NBA dudes manage to game the "gather step + two steps + almost a third step" rule to maximize distance without technically travelling. Griner is straight up travelling.

Posted by: bonhomme at July 17, 2023 07:24 PM (R38qh)

135 So, voting is pointless?

Duh.

Voting is theater and a waste of time. The game isn't won by votes, its won by ballots. Totally different and completely unrelated things.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at July 17, 2023 07:25 PM (p8A+W)

136 I'm still fond of taking over the state legislatures and passing only-day-of voting with voter ID requirements, and any absentee ballots require the same steps as purchasing a class III firearm.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The EPA has determined US has cooled since 1948 at July 17, 2023 07:25 PM (9ULwW)

137 I find if the intended victim of your help is blissfully unaware of your assistance, things will move much smoother.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at July 17, 2023 07:24 PM (p8A+W)

Nursing homes... suddenly 100% voting, even if the families have done the paperwork that they are so far gone they can't vote anymore.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 17, 2023 07:26 PM (oHd/0)

138 The NBA players travel more than Michelle Obama vacationing on the taxpayers dime.

Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2023 07:26 PM (5e0cQ)

139 A lot of NBA dudes manage to game the "gather step + two steps + almost a third step" rule to maximize distance without technically travelling. Griner is straight up travelling.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 17, 2023 07:24 PM (R38qh)

You're just lucky I didn't retire.

Posted by: LeBron James at July 17, 2023 07:26 PM (+sD5M)

140 So, voting is pointless?
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at July 17, 2023 07:24 PM (Mzdiz)
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Local offices, probably okay. National offices? Where I live, doubtful.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(2YtOq) at July 17, 2023 07:26 PM (2YtOq)

141 > I find if the intended victim of your help is blissfully unaware of your assistance, things will move much smoother.

Like all those old people who were SHOCKED to discover they had donated money to the DNC.

Posted by: bonhomme at July 17, 2023 07:26 PM (R38qh)

142 I'd add to this situation that Democrats ignore "No Soliciting" postings, while Republicans honor them. It's another example of the rule of law applying to one side of the political spectrum based on the ends justifying the means.

Posted by: Orson at July 17, 2023 07:26 PM (+mki2)

143 Okay now that an actual somebody brought this subject up now the next question that should be asked of Trump, DeSantis and their most vociferous supporters is who are the people that are going to stick their necks out and risk personal destruction taking on the Deep State?

Posted by: JROD at July 17, 2023 07:26 PM (IlL6s)

144 The NBA players travel more than Michelle Obama vacationing on the taxpayers dime.
Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2023 07:26 PM (5e0cQ)

Joe Biden has taken 365 days of vacation during his presidency.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 17, 2023 07:26 PM (+sD5M)

145 90, LOL, true!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - these lying liars have been lying for decades at July 17, 2023 07:27 PM (GGQV4)

146 It’s clearly what Republicans have to do and when the ballot count is 175% of the voter population, well then we see what happens.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 17, 2023 06:47 PM (0hOvj)

This

Posted by: clutch at July 17, 2023 07:27 PM (9UmRs)

147 Trump supporters engaging In ballot-harvesting. One way ticket to Jail.

Winners get to write the "laws" and winners decide who goes to jail.

Its an all or nothing sweepstakes.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at July 17, 2023 07:27 PM (p8A+W)

148 I notice, this Ace guy can call out Boomers and the same folks on the last thread don't flock like a bunch of angry old people. I wonder why that is ?

Posted by: Rock Ribbed Republican at July 17, 2023 07:27 PM (5lvwS)

149 My other rant about the Tucker interviews is that no one would say that our elections are rigged.

If these people - the VP wannabes - who should be attack dogs will not go there, well, we are beyond lost.

Summary so far:
Scott - WTF? I liked his positions but he kept thinking he was at a black church.
Asa - prickly little assfuck.
Pence - was he drunk? He sounded like the guy who has been at the bar all day and is now in another world. Would not look at Tucker and was so condescending. I hate that man. I wonder how George Washington or the founders would react to him harping on about how his "life was in danger." What a pathetic pussy. I would love to see him on the mall getting a shave from the national razor.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at July 17, 2023 07:27 PM (y80Qb)

150 Yet, there they are sitting in congress.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 17, 2023 07:24 PM (BdMk6)
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They're gaining the world at expense of their souls. I don't see much of a future unless they repent.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(2YtOq) at July 17, 2023 07:27 PM (2YtOq)

151 So, voting is pointless?
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at July 17, 2023 07:24 PM (Mzdiz)

Ummmmmmmmm………Yes.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 17, 2023 07:27 PM (R/m4+)

152 They stole Arizona in 2022 to make sure they will be able to steal the country in 2024. It's no less simple than that.
Posted by: ... at July 17, 2023 07:21 PM (lX8VI)

Yup. AZ was tuning the methodology already in place.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 17, 2023 07:28 PM (BdMk6)

153 136 I'm still fond of taking over the state legislatures and passing only-day-of voting with voter ID requirements, and any absentee ballots require the same steps as purchasing a class III firearm.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - The EPA has determined US has cooled since 1948 at July 17, 2023 07:25 PM (9ULwW)

Make Election day a National Holiday. Polls open 24 hours nationwide... the SAME 24 hours.

If you are not home to vote, I guess your vote is not important to you.... soooo... except for Active duty military deployed, who already have Voting Officers in every command....

Too bad... so sad.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 17, 2023 07:28 PM (oHd/0)

154 I notice, this Ace guy can call out Boomers and the same folks on the last thread don't flock like a bunch of angry old people. I wonder why that is ?
Posted by: Rock Ribbed Republican at July 17, 2023 07:27 PM (5lvwS)

No one alive remembers the last thread.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 17, 2023 07:28 PM (aD39U)

155 t’s clearly what Republicans have to do and when the ballot count is 175% of the voter population, well then we see what happens.

We blame the Democrats for voter under-counting and suppression for all of the years.

Having a 175% voter turnout simply means that all previous years, people were denied the right to vote. The huge increase simply proves their duplicity.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at July 17, 2023 07:28 PM (p8A+W)

156 I think this place is collectively meaner to the host than any other forum I've ever been on.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The EPA has determined US has cooled since 1948 at July 17, 2023 07:29 PM (9ULwW)

157 Well, yeah, life was good in the USA in the 1950s.
Of course, the rest of the world was smoking ruin, there was that...

Posted by: gourmand du jour at July 17, 2023 07:29 PM (MeG8a)

158 Agree vote day of only and should be a national holiday. Absentee should be limited to medical conditions and military.

Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2023 07:29 PM (5e0cQ)

159 Winners get to write the "laws" and winners decide who goes to jail.

Its an all or nothing sweepstakes.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at July 17, 2023 07:27 PM (p8A+W)

Sorry, that bird has flown... did you SEE what they put Trump through while he was in office?

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 17, 2023 07:29 PM (oHd/0)

160 @131 Miley-no, voting is not pointless. The Democrats might fuck up committing enough fraud to secure the vote for their candidate like they did Hillary in 2016, so get out and vote just in case.

Posted by: JROD at July 17, 2023 07:29 PM (IlL6s)

161 A American Thinker article I think last week ago at least reported postal ballots sent to undeliverable addresses got all put in a box which then would disappear

Posted by: Skip at July 17, 2023 07:29 PM (xhxe8)

162
No one alive remembers the last thread.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 17, 2023 07:28 PM (aD39U)

Isn't this the first thread ever?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 17, 2023 07:30 PM (+sD5M)

163 >>>Yet, there they are sitting in congress.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons

"We don't want to wait till the fourth quarter to start scoring touchdowns when you have four quarters to put points on the board," Republican National Committee chairwoman Ronna McDaniel said last month in promoting the new strategy. "We have to change the culture among Republican voters."

>This really is thinking outside of the box. A new strategy indeed!

Posted by: Dr. Bone at July 17, 2023 07:30 PM (fY84s)

164 Every single Republican politician is a piece of shit. One day we will "get it".

Posted by: ... at July 17, 2023 07:30 PM (lX8VI)

165 Make Election day a National Holiday. Polls open 24 hours nationwide... the SAME 24 hours.

Ditch the 16th and 24th Amendments and collect a poll tax.

We'll get the true believers then.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at July 17, 2023 07:30 PM (p8A+W)

166 No one alive remembers the last thread.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 17, 2023 07:28 PM (aD39U)

I don't think you remember a damn thing of the 1950s other than walking to school both ways uphill. OK - you probably don't remember a damn thing from the last thread either.

And you don't remember Ace using the dread word "Boomer".

Posted by: Rock Ribbed Republican at July 17, 2023 07:31 PM (5lvwS)

167 Prop 2 in MI was a ballot initiative that immediately became a MI constitutional amendment. Even if you manage to somehow recapture the legislature, you can't change it without getting another ballot prop to further amend it.

Guess who controls what gets on the ballot? The same bitch that had 3 of her gubernatorial opposition candidates disqualified on bullshit charges.

Posted by: leoncaruthers at July 17, 2023 07:31 PM (UfRqq)

168 If conservatives are kicked out of the tabulation rooms, go scorched earth.

That shit was illegal as HELL and nothing was done about it.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 17, 2023 07:06 PM (+sD5M)

That happened at Cobo Hall in Detoilet.

Posted by: clutch at July 17, 2023 07:31 PM (9UmRs)

169 No one alive remembers the last thread.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 17, 2023 07:28 PM (aD39U)

Isn't this the first thread ever?
Posted by: Sponge

You're not old enough to remember.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 17, 2023 07:31 PM (xyh5O)

170 The NBA did away with traveling and it made the game better.

Do yo want to see Michael Jordan foul out of every game?

Posted by: JmT at July 17, 2023 07:31 PM (18RTj)

171 >>“Today, a former FBI supervisory special agent assigned to the FBI’s Wilmington office and the Biden criminal investigation confirmed key portions of the IRS whistleblower’s testimony. The night before the interview of Hunter Biden, both Secret Service headquarters and the Biden transition team were tipped off about the planned interview. On the day of the Hunter Biden interview, federal agents were told to stand by and could not approach Hunter Biden—they had to wait for his call. As a result of the change in plans, IRS and FBI criminal investigators never got to interview Hunter Biden as part of the investigation.

https://tinyurl.com/w7hthech

Posted by: JackStraw at July 17, 2023 07:31 PM (ZLI7S)

172 Republican National Committee chairwoman Ronna McDaniel said last month in promoting the new strategy. "We have to change the culture among Republican voters."

>This really is thinking outside of the box. A new strategy indeed!
Posted by: Dr. Bone at July 17, 2023 07:30 PM (fY84s)

We have to change our voters? WHO THE FUCK DOES SHE THINK SHE IS? We don't work for her, she supposedly works for us.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 17, 2023 07:31 PM (oHd/0)

173 I don't think you remember a damn thing of the 1950s other than walking to school both ways uphill.

Says the fool who doesn't remember the 70s.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 17, 2023 07:31 PM (aD39U)

174 It's like Boomer Esiason says, "The team that scores the most points is going to win this game."

Posted by: Ronna McDaniel - Sooper Genyus at July 17, 2023 07:32 PM (ppBhU)

175 Ah, I see poopstain found the new thread.

Posted by: leoncaruthers at July 17, 2023 07:32 PM (UfRqq)

176 Joe Biden has taken 365 days of vacation during his presidency.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 17, 2023 07:26 PM (+sD5M)

The NBA players travel but not that much.

Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2023 07:32 PM (5e0cQ)

177 GOPe wants candidates 'that can win', unless the candidates that can win aren't the candidates the GOPe wants to win.

Posted by: davidt at July 17, 2023 07:33 PM (SYTee)

178 We're back to having a fine example of how to win friends and influence others.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 17, 2023 07:33 PM (+sD5M)

179 It's all about getting quality candidates.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 17, 2023 07:33 PM (aD39U)

180 Miley-no, voting is not pointless. The Democrats might fuck up committing enough fraud to secure the vote for their candidate like they did Hillary in 2016, so get out and vote just in case.

Posted by: JROD at July 17, 2023 07:29 PM (IlL6s)

I think that bird has probably sailed but it's a nice sentiment. I'm done voting personally but if I lived in an area where it mattered I'd think about it for the right candidate.

Posted by: ... at July 17, 2023 07:34 PM (lX8VI)

181 Says the fool who doesn't remember the 70s.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 17, 2023 07:31 PM (aD39U)

Tell me what you did, for seven consecutive days, at any point in the 70s, in detail. Lie if you must. Because you'll be lying if you do. Especially from the 70s. Or the 60s - it was all liquor and prescriptions.

I'm the honest guy. You're bitching because my honesty breaks your lie. Most people lie.

Posted by: Rock Ribbed Republican at July 17, 2023 07:34 PM (5lvwS)

182 GOPe wants candidates 'that can win', unless the candidates that can win aren't the candidates the GOPe wants to win.
Posted by: davidt

In that case the Democrat will be just fine.

Posted by: BruceWayne at July 17, 2023 07:34 PM (MGB5H)

183 I can't remember yesterday.

I just remember doing, what they told me.

Told me.

Told me.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 17, 2023 07:34 PM (+sD5M)

184 Posted by: JmT at July 17, 2023 07:31 PM (18RTj)

I'm thinking you can't walk and chew gum at the same time. Perfect as a sports commentator.

Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2023 07:34 PM (5e0cQ)

185 I'm the honest guy. You're bitching because my honesty breaks your lie. Most people lie.
Posted by: Rock Ribbed Republican at July 17, 2023 07:34 PM (5lvwS)

Apparently you are actually brain damaged.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 17, 2023 07:34 PM (aD39U)

186 We don't want to wait till the fourth quarter to start scoring touchdowns when you have four quarters to put points on the board,"

What a dumbass. You start piling up the scores before the game begins. Right Now, tiger teams need to be inventing whole cities full of people and creating a convenient address to drop the tens of thousands of ballots for mail-in ~~fraud~~ voting.

Right now we need to be using AI to cobble up auto-signature templates for the machines that both fill out the registration cards and later sign the ballots so that the signatures match.

Right Now we need to be bribing the appropriate IT personnel who will give us root access to the public voting records database so that we can give one set of fraudulent data to Democrats and another set of fortified fraudulent data for us to win by.

Another team needs to be going out to wealthy amoral donors who don't give a damn what team wins for as long as they get their perqs, rent-seeking and influence in the form of a bought politician.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at July 17, 2023 07:35 PM (p8A+W)

187 Blah Blah says all you boomer haters should thank us as we killed more commies than any other generation. Of course, we know now that that was wrong and we love big government. We have seen the light and our freebies from Washington help us take vacations, own 3 homes and still live in dreary old Manhattan.

Vote democrat and get and get a check. It’s not hard silly.

Posted by: Harriet and Blah Blah Nyborg, boomer socialists at July 17, 2023 07:35 PM (R/m4+)

188 Unless a party comes along that is more ruthless than the Dems, they will continue to dominate. Now do you really want a party of politicians more ruthless than democrats?

Posted by: fd at July 17, 2023 07:35 PM (iayUP)

189 I wouldn't bet my life but I would bet money that scogg has an offensive body odor.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 17, 2023 07:36 PM (aD39U)

190 7 consecutive days in the seventies? For me, that's easy. Got up, met up with a buddy before, got stoned, went to school. On the weekends? Got together with buddies, drank and smoked too much while solving all the problems of the world while agreeing our parents were idiots and didn't understand.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(2YtOq) at July 17, 2023 07:36 PM (2YtOq)

191 No one is more honest than someone who tells you how honest they are.

Posted by: ... at July 17, 2023 07:36 PM (lX8VI)

192 All of this stuff is a bit shady which means the junta can easily convict republicans who do harvesting, but let the democrats have at it.

Posted by: InZona at July 17, 2023 07:36 PM (insHU)

193 Wait... they are now considering my "must cheat to win" recommendation? Bout time.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 17, 2023 07:36 PM (8GBH4)

194 161 173 you guys getting tired of this newbie just talking massive shit about regulars in good standing yet???

Posted by: MAxIE at July 17, 2023 07:36 PM (twxj3)

195 Tell me what you did, for seven consecutive days, at any point in the 70s, in detail.

WTAF?

What kind of precedent is this? If you can't live up to THIS REQUREMENT, you're LYING that you remember things from your childhood........

What a maroon.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 17, 2023 07:37 PM (+sD5M)

196 We're back to having a fine example of how to win friends and influence others.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 17, 2023 07:33 PM (+sD5M)

Fair. Being honest means being honest when it's awful. Because any dick can tell the crowd what they want to hear.

But tell me - can you detail out a single week, back in the 50s ? No. 60s ? No. 70s ? No.

I'm not retarded for saying I can't. I'm honest.

Posted by: Rock Ribbed Republican at July 17, 2023 07:37 PM (5lvwS)

197 No one is more honest than someone who tells you how honest they are.
Posted by: ... at July 17, 2023 07:36 PM (lX8VI)

*starts counting spoons*

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 17, 2023 07:37 PM (aD39U)

198 With Democrat states making millions of unrequited ballots you can't ever beat that

Posted by: Skip at July 17, 2023 07:37 PM (xhxe8)

199 "Trump simultaneously increased his vote in white blue-collar counties, especially among rural male blue-collar whites, particularly in Michigan, Minnesota, Ohio, and Pennsylvania. Trump even flipped some traditionally Democratic counties in these states in 2020, and yet somehow lost these states overall...

According to Keshel’s empirical analysis, Biden’s national popular vote total was at least 8.1 million above what was arithmetically possible for him to attain."

Man that's an interesting article.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The EPA has determined US has cooled since 1948 at July 17, 2023 07:37 PM (9ULwW)

200 Unless a party comes along that is more ruthless than the Dems, they will continue to dominate. Now do you really want a party of politicians more ruthless than democrats?

Yes. We need raw demonstrations of depraved power directed at fucking the enemy harder than they fucked us.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at July 17, 2023 07:37 PM (p8A+W)

201 I notice, this Ace guy can call out Boomers and the same folks on the last thread don't flock like a bunch of angry old people. I wonder why that is?

At first the disparity in treatment does seem mysterious, but once one takes into account that you are an unlikeable asshole, everthing falls into place.

I hope this helps.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at July 17, 2023 07:37 PM (ppBhU)

202 No one is more honest than someone who tells you how honest they are.
Posted by: ... at July 17, 2023 07:36 PM (lX8VI)

His word as a Scoodog

Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2023 07:37 PM (5e0cQ)

203 With Democrat states making millions of unrequited ballots you can't ever beat that

Don't undervalue the power of directed arson.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at July 17, 2023 07:38 PM (p8A+W)

204 Posted by: Reuben Hick at July 17, 2023 07:37 PM (p8A+W)

I find your opinions interesting and would very much like to hit the bell to receive your notifications.

Posted by: ... at July 17, 2023 07:38 PM (lX8VI)

205 On the day of the Hunter Biden interview, federal agents were told to stand by and could not approach Hunter Biden—they had to wait for his call. As a result of the change in plans, IRS and FBI criminal investigators never got to interview Hunter Biden as part of the investigation.

https://tinyurl.com/w7hthech

Posted by: JackStraw at July 17, 2023 07:31 PM (ZLI7S)

Boy, that'd be a nice change of pace. "Don't call me, Fibbie, I'll call you."

Posted by: pookysgirl knows it'll never happen at July 17, 2023 07:38 PM (Q4ao1)

206 Who let the douchbag in?

Posted by: Reforger at July 17, 2023 07:38 PM (B705c)

207 Apparently you are actually brain damaged.
Posted by: G'rump928
--------

I defer to Wiiam McAdoo - “It is impossible to defeat an ignorant man in argument.”

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 17, 2023 07:38 PM (VG0cN)

208 Tell me what you did, for seven consecutive days, at any point in the 70s, in detail. Lie if you must. Because you'll be lying if you do. Especially from the 70s. Or the 60s - it was all liquor and prescriptions.

Posted by: Rock Ribbed Republican

I got up and mustered, went to sickbay and treated sailors and marines who had injured themselves, took a lunch break in the mess, up two decks, back to sick bay to clean and treat any emergencies until dinner in the mess, climbed into the top bunk and tried to go to sleep and after waking up the next morning repeated the prior day.
I did this for 2 cruises off Vietnam.

And you can't remember the 70s so ESAD.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 17, 2023 07:38 PM (xyh5O)

209 No one is more honest than someone who tells you how honest they are.
Posted by: ... at July 17, 2023 07:36 PM (lX8VI)

You might have that other way.

Posted by: JmT at July 17, 2023 07:38 PM (18RTj)

210 consecutive days in the seventies? For me, that's easy. Got up, met up with a buddy before, got stoned, went to school. On the weekends? Got together with buddies, drank and smoked too much while solving all the problems of the world while agreeing our parents were idiots and didn't understand.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(2YtOq) at July 17, 2023 07:36 PM (2YtOq)

I went downtown.....to look for a job. Then I went and hung out in front of the drug store.

On the next day, I went downtown......to look for a job. Then I got a job. Keeping people from hanging out in front of the drug store.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 17, 2023 07:39 PM (+sD5M)

211 Come on, polynikes, I was a sports announcer for a few years, most of us are just fans with jobs that require us to say stupid cliches once in a while. I met very few true dumbasses in the field.

Posted by: Lincolntf at July 17, 2023 07:39 PM (2cS/G)

212 Nood Cafe!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 17, 2023 07:39 PM (xyh5O)

213 @188 fd-Yes absolutely I want a party more ruthless than the Democrats. Damn straight. I'm tired of these Barney Fife mf'ers in this dipshit party.
Cross the line of decency, shock peoples morals, f'ing destroy the evil sonofabitches, then step back over the line. This used to be called "rough men" that had to do the dirty work.

Posted by: JROD at July 17, 2023 07:39 PM (IlL6s)

214 What kind of precedent is this? If you can't live up to THIS REQUREMENT, you're LYING that you remember things from your childhood........

You remember points. That's a certainty. But those points do not reflect the era.

It would be hard to prove - impossible to even set up as a test. Yet I suspect, certain Boomers and most Millennials have similar views on childhood. Certain points where they felt "safe".

Makes sense. Late Boomers raised the Millennials.

Posted by: Rock Ribbed Republican at July 17, 2023 07:40 PM (5lvwS)

215 "Tell me what you did, for seven consecutive days, at any point in the 70s, in detail. Lie if you must. Because you'll be lying if you do."

Monday -Sucked cock
Tuesday -Sucked cock
Wednesday -Sucked cock
Thursday -Sucked cock
Friday - Sucked cock
Saturday - Sucked cock
Sunday -Um, let me think. Oh yeah, sucked cock

Posted by: Average Joe at July 17, 2023 07:41 PM (iayUP)

216 All of this stuff is a bit shady which means the junta can easily convict republicans who do harvesting, but let the democrats have at it.

This isn't rocket science. Register as a Democrat, make a few donations, volunteer time and talk/act like a true believer, shame the Democrat Undergound denizen in how much more Lefty rhetoric you can spew.

Then when you volunteer for harvesting and mail dropping, make sure none of it is for Democrat candidates. Hell, steal a phone from some line-worker and carry that around as you make dead drops all over town.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at July 17, 2023 07:41 PM (p8A+W)

217 It is impossible to defeat an ignorant man in argument.”

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 17, 2023 07:38 PM (VG0cN)

Oh but you can have so much fun trying

Posted by: ... at July 17, 2023 07:43 PM (lX8VI)

218
But tell me - can you detail out a single week, back in the 50s ? No. 60s ? No. 70s ? No.

I'm not retarded for saying I can't. I'm honest.
Posted by: Rock Ribbed Republican at July 17, 2023 07:37 PM (5lvwS)

Most people can't give you 7 days of details from a few months ago, much lest 60 years ago. But what most CAN do is give a solid recollection of their childhood and what it was like to live in that era as a child. My 80 year old FiL can tell you all kinds of stories from when he was a child. Calling them liars for being able to have a fond memory of their upbringing is obnoxious bullying.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 17, 2023 07:44 PM (+sD5M)

219 Posted by: leoncaruthers at July 17, 2023 07:31 PM (UfRqq)

She is term limited out, right?

Actually no, she will be the next President.

Posted by: clutch at July 17, 2023 07:44 PM (9UmRs)

220 A coherent and specific vision articulated broadly and timed correctly by the supposed opposition to Democrat insanity would probably go a long way in negating inherent Democrat fraud advantages built into the system.

You can get out the vote all you want but unless you have a vision with broad appeal to significant chunks of the persuadable electorate what is the point?

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at July 17, 2023 07:44 PM (vJRHj)

221 On the next day, I went downtown......to look for a job. Then I got a job. Keeping people from hanging out in front of the drug store.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 17, 2023 07:39 PM (+sD5M)

You ain't got no job!!

Posted by: Reforger at July 17, 2023 07:44 PM (B705c)

222 I got up and mustered, went to sickbay and treated sailors and marines who had injured themselves, took a lunch break in the mess, up two decks, back to sick bay to clean and treat any emergencies until dinner in the mess, climbed into the top bunk and tried to go to sleep and after waking up the next morning repeated the prior day.
I did this for 2 cruises off Vietnam.

And you can't remember the 70s so ESAD.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 17, 2023 07:38 PM (xyh5O)

Complete bullshit. Because I can tell you, according to my time sheet, that I checked into plant XYZ at 6 or 7 or 8, and out at 3 or 4 or 5 or 6.

But every detail - even over the last week ? Bullshit. Complete bullshit. And that's a week.

You just told me the equivalent of when somebody asks "what did you do in '2012". You can't, unless you are Marilu Henner, recall all the details.

But plenty of folks are tuned into this. You need to have "complete recall". You don't.

Posted by: Rock Ribbed Republican at July 17, 2023 07:44 PM (5lvwS)

223 Herein lies the problem. If you are engaged in voter fraud in order to help Democratic candidates -- no one will even ruffle a hair on your heroic brow. Republicans will have their life ruined and get a new roommate called gay Bubba.

Posted by: Hullaboloser at July 17, 2023 07:47 PM (ZwY3M)

224 156 I think this place is collectively meaner to the host than any other forum I've ever been on.

Nah, Althouse gets shit from her commenters that wouldn't be allowed here.

Posted by: chris+opher at July 17, 2023 07:48 PM (slPsU)

225 "We don't want to wait till the fourth quarter to start scoring touchdowns when you have four quarters to put points on the board," Republican National Committee chairwoman Ronna McDaniel said last month in promoting the new strategy. "We have to change the culture among Republican voters."

>This really is thinking outside of the box. A new strategy indeed!
Posted by: Dr. Bone at July 17, 2023 07:30 PM (fY84s)

Wow. That's some John-Madden-level stating the fucking obvious.

Posted by: Those Republican leaders are a shrewd bunch at July 17, 2023 07:49 PM (uoAlb)

226 WTF is up with arguing about what the 1950s were like? Pick up a fucking history book or two. I guarantee you you'll find elements both appealing and unappealing in every decade you study in detail regardless of whether you were personally alive to experience them.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at July 17, 2023 07:50 PM (vJRHj)

227 As long as voter fraud is NOT widespread - it never is - it is PERFECTLY OK.

Posted by: U.S. Media at July 17, 2023 07:51 PM (5OvzI)

228 WTF is up with arguing about what the 1950s were like? Pick up a fucking history book or two.

Hence my point. The 50s had winners and losers. The losers didn't get to pose for a Norman Rockwell portrait.

Exactly my point. Precisely my point.

Posted by: Rock Ribbed Republican at July 17, 2023 07:52 PM (5lvwS)

229 Term limited, but she's there until '26 (unless God decides to truly chastise us with her presidency). Good luck undoing it after two more cycles.

Posted by: leoncaruthers at July 17, 2023 07:53 PM (UfRqq)

230 Hence my point. The 50s had winners and losers. The losers didn't get to pose for a Norman Rockwell portrait.

Exactly my point. Precisely my point.

Posted by: Rock Ribbed Republican at July 17, 2023 07:52 PM (5lvwS)

Was THAT your point?

Posted by: Reforger at July 17, 2023 07:57 PM (B705c)

231 Our elites need another 2 trillion dollar tax break
If they don't get it, how can they trickle down on us?

Posted by: Paul at July 17, 2023 07:58 PM (mn/HW)

232 They don't do the same thing twice in the exact same way. If a company printed ballots wrong, they'll get a new printer next time but have the ballots lost at the USPS. Thereafter, maybe the wrong names v party; paper that bleeds through; forgetting security envelop for ballots; waterline breaks, lighting failures, and on and on.

I believe they collect all of their voting error ideas & building malfunctions to redistribute them to a different county, state, region of the nation.

Practice makes perfect.

Posted by: L - Practice makes perfect. They know the enemy. at July 17, 2023 08:02 PM (GshMh)

233 What a dumbass. You start piling up the scores before the game begins. Right Now, tiger teams need to be inventing whole cities full of people and creating a convenient address to drop the tens of thousands of ballots for mail-in fraud voting.

Right now we need to be using AI to cobble up auto-signature templates for the machines that both fill out the registration cards and later sign the ballots so that the signatures match.

Right Now we need to be bribing the appropriate IT personnel who will give us root access to the public voting records database so that we can give one set of fraudulent data to Democrats and another set of fortified fraudulent data for us to win by.

Another team needs to be going out to wealthy amoral donors who don't give a damn what team wins for as long as they get their perqs, rent-seeking and influence in the form of a bought politician.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at July 17, 2023 07:35 PM (p8A+W)

Need arms length plausible deniability but right on point. It Ain't the votes any more. It's the ballots. Think it was Wisconsin/ had more 'votes' cast than registered voters ...did not/does not matter. Ace Johnson is right; fraud is 'legal' now.

Posted by: Voter theater. at July 17, 2023 08:06 PM (wNIrQ)

234 Trump lost the presidency in 2020 by 43,000 votes. Az. (10,000) Ga. (13,000) Wi. (20,000) All three states republican controlled legislatures. and gov. in Az and Ga. Ballot harvesting in Ca. and other blue states was meaningless. Republicans have run on voter fraud for many elections and passed many laws against vote fraud. In az kari lake and her lawyers are about to be censured for claiming vote fraud without evidence because voter fraud laws are so tough in az. If you want to claim vote fraud in red states don't make the laws so tough it is difficult to commit and easily caught.

Posted by: exodus 21:22-25 at July 17, 2023 08:06 PM (r8kx1)

235 Was THAT your point?

Posted by: Reforger at July 17, 2023 07:57 PM (B705c)

Yes. The 50s were no more uniformly great than the 80s. At least some here really do remember the 80s.

But the 50s ? Not a Utopia. But seeing some here swear it to be so ? Hell, no different that those Modern Communists. Supposedly, being a Small Gub Conservative means there is no Utopia, right ?

Nah, the 50s were the bomb, apparently. All viewed through the Peggy Newnan / Normal Rockwell bullshit lens.

Posted by: Rock Ribbed Republican at July 17, 2023 08:07 PM (5lvwS)

236 The same bitch that had 3 of her gubernatorial opposition candidates disqualified

At least some of the Michigan GOP candidates relied on professional petition circulators to get their candidacy signatures. They got rolled. Professionals don't care that much about the qualification of the signatures they get, and you have to get a lot of extras, and pay a fee for validation.

Republicans don't actually enjoy meeting strangers. If they start "harvesting," it's likely to be with paid collectors, much the same as the Dems do. But the Republicans will have to be much more careful of the product, because they will be monitored more closely. Costly, and can't be helped.

While you're going over the Dominion system, keep in mind that the other big company is E S and S, and outside normal physical chain of custody rules, their devices are also trivially easy for a professional cheat to trip. There's a lot of marginally employed IT whizzes up for grabs out there; maybe in here too. Once the game is afoot, getting ahead of vote data tech is a lot like radar detector detector jammers.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at July 17, 2023 08:08 PM (4PZHB)

237 14 Fraud is legal for them, not for you. Try it and find out.
Posted by: Keep Movin On at July 17, 2023 06:56 PM (n2ffX)

That's THe entire point....YOU out -ballot them, you win, you install your guys and then YOUR guys overlook how you out-balloted them. It's the game now.
Play or lose.

Posted by: Voter theater. at July 17, 2023 08:09 PM (yXKhD)

238 Trump lost the presidency in 2020 by 43,000 votes. Az. (10,000) Ga. (13,000) ...

--

Yep. This Georgia:

"When the totals didn’t match, the recount was off by around 17,000 votes. Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger told the county to reconcile the data, and they then found the missing 17,000 votes a few hours later. However, what Moncla and Rossi have uncovered is that there is no paper trail, and no ballot images exist for those 17,000 votes. Where could those votes have come from? Since there’s no paper trail, and no ballot images, it looks like they materialized out of thin air."

https://tinyurl.com/2jqrqau4

Thanks for your help.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The EPA has determined US has cooled since 1948 at July 17, 2023 08:11 PM (9ULwW)

239 Glad Miller is asking the questions that everybody was already asking at least 3 years ago. That's pretty good for a Washington type.

Posted by: bskb at July 17, 2023 08:12 PM (amyWW)

240 I'm in Westchester County in NY, and went to a GOP Campaign school last weekend.

So.... we got to hear about "Bank Your Vote", which is the Early Voting/Absentee Ballotting effort the GOP is putting out, but I'm skeptical on how well it will deploy nationally.

Obviously, being in Westchester, they generally come to us to milk us for donations, and not so much to get votes. But I was showing up for local election stuff (town council. REALLY local stuff.) So it was interesting to hear about what they're working on for 2024.

Posted by: meep at July 17, 2023 08:18 PM (D1ly/)

241 Republicans are like a boxer who got knocked out in two fights by another boxer who had cement in his gloves. Instead of putting cement in his gloves he vows to keep fighting within the rules because it is the right thing to do...even if it kills him (it will).

Posted by: Trapperguy at July 17, 2023 08:21 PM (WyALD)

242 One of the things the Republicans keep talking about is ballot harvesting, which yes they should do, but they ignore how the ballot harvesting is just the "legitimate" way to than launder fake votes. So even if Republicans created the greatest ballot harvesting endeavor ever, it wouldn't mean shit because it won't fix the actual fraud Democrats keep using to win elections.

The only way to do that is cleaning voter roles, making ID mandatory, banning ballot harvesting, and requiring all votes counts to be monitored by workers from both major campaigns, so in a Presidential election they have priority, in years without a Pres either Senator or Governor's campaigns take the lead. Even by leaving it to the parties you get stuck with an AZ situation where the Republicans were working for the Dems in Maricopa county.

Posted by: Rbastid at July 17, 2023 08:31 PM (9Svzd)

243 Why are they going around suburbs. Go to cities and get the ballots before Democrats.

Posted by: MikeN at July 17, 2023 08:50 PM (XygMV)

244 The GOP agreed to these new election rules. The GOP wants to ensure Trump is never President. the fact that elites are fine with Biden but not with Trump shows the real problem.

Biden 81 million votes!!

Posted by: Bang-a-gong at July 17, 2023 09:30 PM (SRiFu)

245 After 2020, I vowed to never again cast a vote above state level. Normally, this comment encourages some lowfo dumbass to snark at me, which only solidifies my position. Vote and donate harder, mouthbreather.

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