Support
Contact
Ace:
aceofspadeshq at gee mail.com
CBD:
cbd.aoshq at gee mail.com
Buck:
buck.throckmorton at protonmail.com
joe mannix:
mannix2024 at proton.me
MisHum:
petmorons at gee mail.com
J.J. Sefton:
sefton at cutjibnewsletter.com
aceofspadeshq at gee mail.com
CBD:
cbd.aoshq at gee mail.com
Buck:
buck.throckmorton at protonmail.com
joe mannix:
mannix2024 at proton.me
MisHum:
petmorons at gee mail.com
J.J. Sefton:
sefton at cutjibnewsletter.com
Gun Thread: First June Edition!
Yay! The calendar is back!!!
First up, we have a bigly range report from our pal Washington Nearsider who recently attended a long-range rifle clinic. You tell me if you think he had fun!
I completed the two-day BangSteel long-range rifle clinic in Wythville, VA over Memorial Day weekend. It was amazing, and I encourage every single Moron living East of the Mississippi to attend. For those of you out West, I encourage you to make an excuse to get to the East side of the Mississippi and go to the BangSteel course. It's worth far, far more than I paid, and I'll be retaking it multiple times. The underlying principle which guides the course is this: "Nine out of ten rifle owners never attempt to shoot at long ranges because they believe a very expensive rig is required. It's not." They teach normal people with normal gear to engage targets past 1000m. There is no reliance on technology, no laser range finders, no Kestrel wind calls, no barometric pressure measurements. Bring your rifle and a desire to learn - they'll teach you. When I went through the course, there were no custom builds, and no chassis rifles. They were normal people, men and women, with off-the-shelf rifles, all of which fell into what I'd call the middle to upper-middle class of weapons. My gear list is below, and I had one of the more expensive setups in the group. Weapon - Tikka T3X CTR, 24" barrel, 6.5 Creedmoor
Optic - Vortex Viper PST II 5-25x50
Mount - Nightforce X-Treme Duty Ultralite, 20 moa
Bipod - Harris S-LM 9-13"
Ammo - Hornady Precision Hunter ELD-X 143 grain
Suppressor - ThunderBeast Ultra 9 in 308 Day One: All the shooters (9 of us) rallied at a Subway in Bland, Va. The instructors showed up, we all grabbed sandwiches from the store, and then caravanned out to the range, which was on top of a large hill firing into the mountain range. Instructor 2, we'll call him Forrest, took the ATV downrange to put fresh coats of paint on the steel targets at various ranges. Instructor 1, we'll call him Dan Newberry, held court, explaining the basics of long-range rifle fire and wind calls in particular. Once class was over (about 40 minutes), Forrest took our rifles, one at a time, and verified our zeroes. He fired at 100m and 600m, punched that data into a handy calculator, and generated - for each individual - a DOPE chart, which he emailed to each shooter. Within about 10 minutes, I had my own personal DOPE chart for my rifle/round, and moved to the firing line where three spotters awaited us. The first target was an 18" wide torso at (consults notes*) 600m. Dan provided wind calls, which at that point required a left hold of about 6 MOA. My second round impacted dead nuts in the x ring, as did my third and fourth. Dan instructed me to place a round in the head, which I did, and then immediately followed it up with a second round which impacted less than an inch from the first. We continued to engage different targets at different ranges hiding at various points in the mountains, closer and farther, ending the day at 720m. Day Two: Cold bore shots at 720m. Dan explained that to earn a B+ in the course, a shooter had to accurately engage the 720m target on their first shot. To earn an A+, a shooter had to narrowly miss the 720m target on their first shot, add the data from the impact to their shooting solution, and accurately engage the target with a quick follow-up shot. I had the wisdom to shoot second in the morning and was behind my scope while the first shooter fired. She got good hits on shots two and three, as did I. Great success, and a note - use all the data you can when compiling a shooting solution against a target.
840 meters
We naturally split into several groups, each spotting for others while letting our barrels cool. At 840m, there was a torso nestled behind several large boulders, leaving only the head and shoulders exposed. Pic one shows an actual (target) sniper! Go find it, Morons! All of us made good hits on the sniper, and on the random pink steel pig hiding in the rocks at 780m.
1.25 Miles (or a long way)
I received a call about an emergency regarding one of my kiddos so had to leave about an hour early - I'm not sure if they engaged the target at 1.25 miles, but I guarantee I'll be back to take a shot at it. I can now, with some degree of reliability, make wind calls out to 1200m. I have a known DOPE chart to dial my vertical, and can, within a shot or two, engage targets well past half a mile. Suppressed. This course was probably the greatest 'bang for your buck' training I've ever taken. If I didn't know how much it cost, and Dan asked for three times the listed amount, I wouldn't have hesitated to pay him, and I'd have considered it worth every dollar. If you have the slightest interest in being able to shoot at distance, take the course. It's worth your time, they're all our people, and the instructors know what time it is. * Take notes when you shoot at distance, and more than just round counts. There were more than a dozen times through the two-day course when I - as the lone note-taking weirdo - looked back through the notes I'd taken regarding a particular target with a particular wind value, and was able to re-engage that target rather than having to rely on a spotter's call to talk me back in. Even now, looking through my notes, I find value in them. When I got home, I re-wrote them in a neat and organized manner, rather than the scattershot scribbles I made whilst behind my rifle. Provided I fire the same round through the same rifle, I'm compiling information that will only help me later. It would be nice if there was a name for it. "Data on Previous Engagements" has a nice ring to it...Great report, Washington Nearsider! Thank you. Hope your kiddo was OK. I can tell you had a good time! Fun, isn't it? One teeensy-weensy comment though, regarding incorporating atmospheric data into your long-range firing solution data. Don't underestimate it's value. It's important, especially if you want to maximize your chances of a first round hit on target the next time you go out. What I suspect your instructor was doing when he 'checked' the zero on your rifle was determining a baseline against the current atmospheric conditions. The next time you go to the same range, your elevation data will almost certainly have changed. If you have faithfully recorded elevation data based on range and Density Altitude, you will already have data for current conditions. Certain models of the Kestrel Weather Meter will calculate Density Altitude which is a combination of barometric pressure, air temperature, elevation and relative humidity compared to a standard atmosphere, all of which will affect the ballistic trajectory of a bullet in flight. The influence of these factors is not evident at close range, say under a few hundred yards, but become a significant factor the further out you go, and it's very handy to have reference elevation data based on these variables.
Guns of the Horde
Not sure if it is his, but our pal WTM shares a photo of the Flintlock Volley Gun.
AR15 of the 18th Century?
Bottle Top Spin Challenge
Why make it easy shooting at large targets? Our pal RI Red raises the bar by spinning the top off of a water bottle.
10 shots in 30 seconds. 2d place!
Lapua .22 LR Long Range and Super Long Range
I have been seeing a lot of reviews for Lapua .22LR Long Range and Super Long Range ammo recently, and here are a couple. Anyone tried it yet?
1860's P&W Rifling Machine
I thought this was pretty nifty.
DIY Corner
Here is a fun and informative guide on how an atomic bomb works.
Musical Interlude
Here is The Allman Brothers Band and Ramblin Man'
Gun Basics 101
No new video from the She Equips Herself gal, so into the archives we go. This week's video is on some things to buy after you buy a gun.
Armed Attorneys
Good shoot? You make the call.
Cigar of the Week
Cigarpage.com
Famous-smoke.com
Cigarsdaily.com
Neptunecigar.com
Smallbatchcigar.com
Bobalu Cigar Company
Cigarbid.com A note about sources. The brick & mortar/online divide exists with cigars, as with guns, and most consumer products, with respect to price. As with guns - since both are "persecuted industries", basically - I make a conscious effort to source at least some of my cigars from my local store(s). It's a small thing, but the brick & mortar segment for both guns and tobacco are precious, and worth supporting where you can. And if you're lucky enough to have a good cigar store/lounge available, they're often a good social event with many dangerous people of the sort who own scary gunz, or read smart military blogs like this one. -rhomboid Anyone have others to include? Perhaps a small local roller who makes a cigar you like? Send me your recommendation and a link to the site!
I'm really very seriously not kidding around anymore. Buy Ammo
AmmoSeek - online ammo search tool
GunBot - online ammo search tool
SG Ammo
Palmetto State Armory
Georgia Arms
AmmoMan
Target Sports USA
Bud's Gun Shop
American Elite Ammo
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)1
Good evening everyone
Posted by: Skip at June 04, 2023 07:00 PM (xhxe8)
2
On time for a change
Posted by: iron308 at June 04, 2023 07:00 PM (Q33ut)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at June 04, 2023 07:01 PM (fe7in)
4
Amazing Maps @amazingmap · Apr 2
Registered firearms per 100 people [in Europe]
https://tinyurl.com/h2b9jrm4
Registered firearms per 100 people [in Europe]
https://tinyurl.com/h2b9jrm4
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 04, 2023 07:02 PM (Vwz3I)
5
Howdy all!
Posted by: Ten Gallon Hat at June 04, 2023 07:02 PM (nHGGl)
6
Amazing Maps @amazingmap · Apr 2
Registered firearms per 100 people [in Europe]
https://tinyurl.com/h2b9jrm4
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 04, 2023 07:02 PM
The *registered* part is what bothers me. Iffn the government knows what you have they can come and seize it.
Registered firearms per 100 people [in Europe]
https://tinyurl.com/h2b9jrm4
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 04, 2023 07:02 PM
The *registered* part is what bothers me. Iffn the government knows what you have they can come and seize it.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 04, 2023 07:03 PM (ncXxy)
7
GUNS!!!
Posted by: GWB at June 04, 2023 07:03 PM (vQrdQ)
8
g'early evenin', 'rons
g'early evenin', 'rons
Posted by: AltonJackson at June 04, 2023 07:06 PM (ENBF0)
9
Hi there, fellow Morons and 'Ettes, and as always, thank you Mr Weasel for your efforts to bring us the best damned thread in the land. BBL...
Posted by: Cowboyneal at June 04, 2023 07:07 PM (DzsA0)
10
NoVaMoMe is almost here.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 04, 2023 07:07 PM (3AatT)
11
I made the gun thread!
It was a great clinic at a reasonable price, and ticked some items off the Nearsider bucket list!
It was a great clinic at a reasonable price, and ticked some items off the Nearsider bucket list!
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 04, 2023 07:07 PM (/nCD+)
Posted by: Weasel at June 04, 2023 07:08 PM (RG6z4)
Posted by: Weasel at June 04, 2023 07:10 PM (k10B1)
14
https://youtu.be/w4Pzwni45Ac
Making black powder
I do have hard wood charcoal from maple but will get some put together this week.
Making black powder
I do have hard wood charcoal from maple but will get some put together this week.
Posted by: Skip at June 04, 2023 07:10 PM (xhxe8)
15
Weasel is right on about atmospheric data. Where I do a lot of shooting I’ve seen variations from 4,000’ to nearly 12,000’ of density altitude. To get first round hits at distance you have to take that data in to account. I do use a Kestrel 5700 with applied ballistics but some of the on-line weather apps combined with ballistic apps work pretty good.
Posted by: Nevada Dave at June 04, 2023 07:11 PM (z0lMG)
Posted by: Weasel at June 04, 2023 07:11 PM (k10B1)
17
Hello, Weasel! For the history buffs, today is the 81st anniversary of the Battle of Midway. RIP CAPT Norman "Dusty" Kleiss (1916-2016), last survivor of the SBD Dauntless dive bomber pilots who flew from USS Enterprise 81 years ago today.
Posted by: Ed L at June 04, 2023 07:12 PM (yRXSd)
18
The *registered* part is what bothers me. Iffn the government knows what you have they can come and seize it.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 04, 2023 07:03 PM
New business idea - I offer canoe trips for hire around all of the European countries I would like to visit.
However, since I am getting a little wobbly in my old age, the clients may be obligated to report to the authorities that all of their registered weapons were tragically lost during our canoeing adventures!
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 04, 2023 07:03 PM
New business idea - I offer canoe trips for hire around all of the European countries I would like to visit.
However, since I am getting a little wobbly in my old age, the clients may be obligated to report to the authorities that all of their registered weapons were tragically lost during our canoeing adventures!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 04, 2023 07:12 PM (HlyYF)
Posted by: gourmand du jour at June 04, 2023 07:12 PM (72qIu)
20
hiya
Posted by: JT at June 04, 2023 07:13 PM (T4tVD)
21
Sitting at Logan Airport waiting for Junior and DILIT.
Evening, Weasel!
Evening, Weasel!
Posted by: RI Red at June 04, 2023 07:13 PM (zD1Id)
22
NoVaMoMe is almost here.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 04, 2023 07:07 PM (3AatT)
Will be on our ways home by this time next week!
I am so looking forward to it.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 04, 2023 07:07 PM (3AatT)
Will be on our ways home by this time next week!
I am so looking forward to it.
Posted by: GWB at June 04, 2023 07:13 PM (vQrdQ)
23
Posted by: Nevada Dave at June 04, 2023 07:11 PM (z0lMG)
-----
Howdy Nevada Dave! It's crazy how variable the DA can be sometimes.
-----
Howdy Nevada Dave! It's crazy how variable the DA can be sometimes.
Posted by: Weasel at June 04, 2023 07:14 PM (k10B1)
24
Washington Nearsider, it is true that you do not need a lot of money to enjoy long distance shooting. My Savage 110 cost me $600 and my Vortex scope about $350. And with that setup (and spotting by Weasel) I was able to hit a target at 1,007 yards.
I hope your kid is ok and you go back and finish up the course. I like your gear set up. I have been looking at getting a Tikka in 6.5 Creedmoor. The Tikka T3x TACT A1 to be specific.
Have fun going down the rabbit hole that is long range shooting!!
I hope your kid is ok and you go back and finish up the course. I like your gear set up. I have been looking at getting a Tikka in 6.5 Creedmoor. The Tikka T3x TACT A1 to be specific.
Have fun going down the rabbit hole that is long range shooting!!
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at June 04, 2023 07:14 PM (fe7in)
25
Gubs!
Burning an Oliva Serie G here on the porch, actually a sunny day, usually the norm but historically scarce since last fall.
Burning an Oliva Serie G here on the porch, actually a sunny day, usually the norm but historically scarce since last fall.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 04, 2023 07:14 PM (yXaHK)
26
Howdy Ed L!
Posted by: Weasel at June 04, 2023 07:15 PM (k10B1)
27
15 Weasel is right on about atmospheric data. Where I do a lot of shooting I’ve seen variations from 4,000’ to nearly 12,000’ of density altitude. To get first round hits at distance you have to take that data in to account. I do use a Kestrel 5700 with applied ballistics but some of the on-line weather apps combined with ballistic apps work pretty good.
Posted by: Nevada Dave at June 04, 2023 07:11 PM
Only chance of "first round" hits for this Idiot, either sneak up to point blank range, or call in an air strike if a longer engagement distance is required!
Posted by: Nevada Dave at June 04, 2023 07:11 PM
Only chance of "first round" hits for this Idiot, either sneak up to point blank range, or call in an air strike if a longer engagement distance is required!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 04, 2023 07:16 PM (HlyYF)
28
Do we still get to talk about boobs on the Gun Thread?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 04, 2023 07:16 PM (dKC/s)
29
Good evening everyone. No shooting this week but rather, book work preparing for a qual shooting for the parish safety team coming this week.
We have engaged a new insurance carrier and they have asked for a specific drill at the range for all members.
We have engaged a new insurance carrier and they have asked for a specific drill at the range for all members.
Posted by: Tonypete at June 04, 2023 07:16 PM (rH414)
30
I like your gear set up. I have been looking at getting a Tikka in 6.5 Creedmoor. The Tikka T3x TACT A1 to be specific.
Have fun going down the rabbit hole that is long range shooting!!
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at June 04, 2023 07:14 PM (fe7in)
The kiddo's fine. He broke his arm, and is now cheerfully asking strangers we see around town to sign his cast.
I LOVE the Creedmoor round. I was dialing less elevation and getting far smaller wind calls than the 308 guys throughout the course. It's a much flatter round at distance.
On my gear, I'm a buy-once-cry-once guy. I bought the best gear I could afford. It doesn't make me better, but it does give me a higher ceiling.
Have fun going down the rabbit hole that is long range shooting!!
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at June 04, 2023 07:14 PM (fe7in)
The kiddo's fine. He broke his arm, and is now cheerfully asking strangers we see around town to sign his cast.
I LOVE the Creedmoor round. I was dialing less elevation and getting far smaller wind calls than the 308 guys throughout the course. It's a much flatter round at distance.
On my gear, I'm a buy-once-cry-once guy. I bought the best gear I could afford. It doesn't make me better, but it does give me a higher ceiling.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 04, 2023 07:16 PM (/nCD+)
31
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 04, 2023 07:16 PM (dKC/s)
----
Have we ever not been able to talk about boobs on the Gun Thread?
----
Have we ever not been able to talk about boobs on the Gun Thread?
Posted by: Weasel at June 04, 2023 07:18 PM (RG6z4)
32
Sharon, I seem to have lost the email you sent me. Can you re-send, please, with the range info?
Posted by: GWB at June 04, 2023 07:19 PM (vQrdQ)
33
The Pratt and Whitney rifling machine video is cool!
Posted by: Nevada Dave at June 04, 2023 07:20 PM (z0lMG)
34
We have engaged a new insurance carrier
Posted by: Tonypete at June 04, 2023 07:16 PM (rH414)
Is that specifically for the security team? Or is it for the church as a whole?
Posted by: Tonypete at June 04, 2023 07:16 PM (rH414)
Is that specifically for the security team? Or is it for the church as a whole?
Posted by: GWB at June 04, 2023 07:20 PM (vQrdQ)
35
Hi Weasel
Posted by: iron308 at June 04, 2023 07:21 PM (Q33ut)
36
31 OK. Boobs!
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 04, 2023 07:22 PM (dKC/s)
37
I think they called that a Deck Gun.
As in "clear the deck".
---------------
I'll have to take a look. I know [Sergeant Harper's] Nock volley gun was originally for naval use but they tended to set things on fire that's not healthy in a wood, tar and canvas ship/boat!
Very good about the 'clear the deck' meaning. I had assumed it was clearing crap out of the way before going to battle stations, manning the guns.
Addendum, sort of: I just visited the link now so I'll see more right now!
As in "clear the deck".
---------------
I'll have to take a look. I know [Sergeant Harper's] Nock volley gun was originally for naval use but they tended to set things on fire that's not healthy in a wood, tar and canvas ship/boat!
Very good about the 'clear the deck' meaning. I had assumed it was clearing crap out of the way before going to battle stations, manning the guns.
Addendum, sort of: I just visited the link now so I'll see more right now!
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 04, 2023 07:23 PM (Vwz3I)
38
EdL beat me to the Midway anniversary mention.
For anyone wanting to read up on the amazing things events, reco “Shattered Sword” by Parshall & Tully. The book is famous for how it definitively rewrote the accepted version of events on the Japanese carriers. Overall the battle remains possibly the most decisive, yet razor close-run, thing in modern history.
For anyone wanting to read up on the amazing things events, reco “Shattered Sword” by Parshall & Tully. The book is famous for how it definitively rewrote the accepted version of events on the Japanese carriers. Overall the battle remains possibly the most decisive, yet razor close-run, thing in modern history.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 04, 2023 07:23 PM (yXaHK)
39
Great write up, Washington Nearsider.
And thanks for the "make sure to take notes" reminder.
And, great thread, once again, Weasel.
And thanks for the "make sure to take notes" reminder.
And, great thread, once again, Weasel.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(2YtOq) at June 04, 2023 07:23 PM (2YtOq)
40
Wash Near, great report! I love the 6.5 cm.
Posted by: RI Red at June 04, 2023 07:24 PM (zD1Id)
41
Is that specifically for the security team? Or is it for the church as a whole?
Posted by: GWB
afaik, it is only for the safety team - which includes; Armed members, medical responders, and parking lot team.
The carrier may be a smallish sister firm of our carrier for all other parish coverages though, now that I think about it. Hmmmm, I'll check into that.
Posted by: GWB
afaik, it is only for the safety team - which includes; Armed members, medical responders, and parking lot team.
The carrier may be a smallish sister firm of our carrier for all other parish coverages though, now that I think about it. Hmmmm, I'll check into that.
Posted by: Tonypete at June 04, 2023 07:24 PM (rH414)
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 04, 2023 07:24 PM (HlyYF)
43
Thanks blake!
Posted by: Weasel at June 04, 2023 07:24 PM (RG6z4)
44
The Tikka tac is an excellent rifle for the price! I started my daughter on one a few years back.
The 6.5 creed is a really capable long range round.
The 6.5 creed is a really capable long range round.
Posted by: Nevada Dave at June 04, 2023 07:24 PM (z0lMG)
45
Gotta step away for a little bit. Back soon.
Posted by: Weasel at June 04, 2023 07:25 PM (RG6z4)
46
I've seen various variations on that thing (which I'm calling a Deck Gun) some with as few as 3 barrels.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at June 04, 2023 07:25 PM (72qIu)
47
Hi blake
Posted by: Ben Had at June 04, 2023 07:26 PM (noN1Q)
48
Weasel, one thing I've wondered: what happens when a bullet goes from supersonic to subsonic? It's my understanding accuracy can become iffy due to the transition.
Is this true, myth or somewhere in between?
Is this true, myth or somewhere in between?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(2YtOq) at June 04, 2023 07:27 PM (2YtOq)
Posted by: lin-duh at June 04, 2023 07:27 PM (UUBmN)
50
Good evening, Ben. How are things with you?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(2YtOq) at June 04, 2023 07:27 PM (2YtOq)
51
Pollywog, for your question in the book thread, an efficient fire pit is probably a Dakota Fire Hole, a Rocket stove, or my hybrid, a tire rim over a pit with an air hole dug in from outside to the bottom.
I can cook an hour stew in a 3/4 gal dutch oven with the equivalent of two number 10 cans of firewood, split fine.
Mine has trouble heating multiple pots
if you want an actual stove you can build in your back yard, look up Estufa Patsari, Patsari stove.
I can cook an hour stew in a 3/4 gal dutch oven with the equivalent of two number 10 cans of firewood, split fine.
Mine has trouble heating multiple pots
if you want an actual stove you can build in your back yard, look up Estufa Patsari, Patsari stove.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 04, 2023 07:27 PM (xhaym)
52
Ben Had, just made flight reservations for myself and the RMBS Mom for the TXMOME!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 04, 2023 07:27 PM (Wnv9h)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(2YtOq) at June 04, 2023 07:28 PM (2YtOq)
54
What did long range shooters do before computer assisted atmosphere calcs?
Other than guess and try and get closer.
Other than guess and try and get closer.
Posted by: Thesokorus at June 04, 2023 07:28 PM (qWNvd)
55
Howdy Ben Had!
Are going to the NoVa MoMe, or just amplifying the news so that Morons don't forget?
Are going to the NoVa MoMe, or just amplifying the news so that Morons don't forget?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 04, 2023 07:28 PM (HlyYF)
56
What did long range shooters do before computer assisted atmosphere calcs?
Other than guess and try and get closer.
Posted by: Thesokorus at June 04, 2023 07:28 PM (qWNvd)
----------
I believe they actually did the math. Plus lots of rounds downrange.
Other than guess and try and get closer.
Posted by: Thesokorus at June 04, 2023 07:28 PM (qWNvd)
----------
I believe they actually did the math. Plus lots of rounds downrange.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(2YtOq) at June 04, 2023 07:29 PM (2YtOq)
Posted by: lin-duh at June 04, 2023 07:30 PM (UUBmN)
58
53 Drat, I ask a question of the master and the master walks away.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(2YtOq) at June 04, 2023 07:28 PM
Oh, so you're the troublemaker!
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(2YtOq) at June 04, 2023 07:28 PM
Oh, so you're the troublemaker!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 04, 2023 07:31 PM (HlyYF)
59
Did get to the range with the boss, she wants to practice with the Model 60. She did, and shoots it better than I do. Just short-range work against a paper silhouette target. Will work on shooting with the CrimsonTrace laser when we do some after-hours shooting at dusk - though the “migrant”/security situation may deter me.
As always she also enjoyed and excelled with the M1 carbine, a 10-inch steel plate @50 yds. And shot some clays on the trap range, always fun.
As always she also enjoyed and excelled with the M1 carbine, a 10-inch steel plate @50 yds. And shot some clays on the trap range, always fun.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 04, 2023 07:32 PM (yXaHK)
60
Good evening all.
No range report this week but looking forward to the expanded version of the DMV MGC Sunday after party next weekend.
No range report this week but looking forward to the expanded version of the DMV MGC Sunday after party next weekend.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 04, 2023 07:32 PM (t/2Uw)
61
Oh, so you're the troublemaker!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 04, 2023 07:31 PM (HlyYF)
------
It's probably going on my permanent record.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 04, 2023 07:31 PM (HlyYF)
------
It's probably going on my permanent record.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(2YtOq) at June 04, 2023 07:32 PM (2YtOq)
62
Washington Nearsider, that's some high quality long-range shootin'! Congrats.
And good evening, gub 'ettes and 'rons, and special tip of the S&W baseball cap to Weasel. May be in and out tonight (TWSS!) because I have a date with a lawnmower.
And good evening, gub 'ettes and 'rons, and special tip of the S&W baseball cap to Weasel. May be in and out tonight (TWSS!) because I have a date with a lawnmower.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at June 04, 2023 07:32 PM (v23vE)
63
RMBS, wish I had a better word than fantastic. About those ribs, we will talk.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 04, 2023 07:33 PM (noN1Q)
64
Posted by: GWB at June 04, 2023 07:19 PM (vQrdQ)
Disregard, Sharon. It was a text, not email.... /facepalm/
Disregard, Sharon. It was a text, not email.... /facepalm/
Posted by: GWB at June 04, 2023 07:33 PM (vQrdQ)
65
RMBS, wish I had a better word than fantastic. About those ribs, we will talk.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 04, 2023 07:33 PM
*nods sagely*
Posted by: Ben Had at June 04, 2023 07:33 PM
*nods sagely*
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 04, 2023 07:34 PM (Wnv9h)
66
no range time for little old me, either. Plus, our local range decided to close Monday and Tuesday. Monday being my usual day to shoot.
Drat.
Drat.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(2YtOq) at June 04, 2023 07:34 PM (2YtOq)
67
Hello, Weasel! For the history buffs, today is the 81st anniversary of the Battle of Midway. RIP CAPT Norman "Dusty" Kleiss (1916-2016), last survivor of the SBD Dauntless dive bomber pilots who flew from USS Enterprise 81 years ago today.
Posted by: Ed L at June 04, 2023 07:12 PM (yRXSd)
RIP John W. Brock, of New Brockton, AL. Torpedo 6. He flew an obsolete TBD Devastator torpedo bomber from the deck of the USS Enterprise to attack the Japanese Main Striking Force at Midway. Along with hundreds of other American sailors and airmen that day, he gallantly gave his life for his country. But they broke the back of the Imperial Japanese Navy, and changed the course of WWII in the Pacific. The American Legion Post in my old hometown is named in his honor.
Posted by: Ed L at June 04, 2023 07:12 PM (yRXSd)
RIP John W. Brock, of New Brockton, AL. Torpedo 6. He flew an obsolete TBD Devastator torpedo bomber from the deck of the USS Enterprise to attack the Japanese Main Striking Force at Midway. Along with hundreds of other American sailors and airmen that day, he gallantly gave his life for his country. But they broke the back of the Imperial Japanese Navy, and changed the course of WWII in the Pacific. The American Legion Post in my old hometown is named in his honor.
Posted by: That Deplorable SOB Van Owen at June 04, 2023 07:36 PM (PWe8a)
68
Excuse me Mr. Thug, you are not allowed to enter carrying a weapon of any type. Something about that phrase just sound a little...stupid.
Posted by: Eromero at June 04, 2023 07:36 PM (Uv0D2)
69
That is good shooting, Washington Nearsider. Fun to get to do any sort of good training like that.
Weasel, thanks for the content. Good stuff.
As to nukes.... I'm a goner if people firing them get anywhere close to the assumed targets. And my home office window faces the wrong way so I won't even get to see the pretty flash in my final millisecond.
Weasel, thanks for the content. Good stuff.
As to nukes.... I'm a goner if people firing them get anywhere close to the assumed targets. And my home office window faces the wrong way so I won't even get to see the pretty flash in my final millisecond.
Posted by: GWB at June 04, 2023 07:36 PM (vQrdQ)
70
Ben,
My manager might be coming in October too if that's ok. She's been listening to me talk about the MoMo since I've known her. She is definitely an 'ette, otherwise there is no way I'd have been able to work with her for so long. 🤗
My manager might be coming in October too if that's ok. She's been listening to me talk about the MoMo since I've known her. She is definitely an 'ette, otherwise there is no way I'd have been able to work with her for so long. 🤗
Posted by: lin-duh at June 04, 2023 07:36 PM (UUBmN)
71
rhomboid,
Do you practice a lot on your CrimsonTrace shooting?
I have a bad hand tremor, and shot better holding the gun at the center of my chest and looking way over the sights when using the laser.
I do NOT want to develop any additional bad habits. Do you shoot the laser essentially the same as you shoot normally, or are there some advantages to modifying your stance and eyeline to better utilize the laser and a less obstructed view of the entire target?
Do you practice a lot on your CrimsonTrace shooting?
I have a bad hand tremor, and shot better holding the gun at the center of my chest and looking way over the sights when using the laser.
I do NOT want to develop any additional bad habits. Do you shoot the laser essentially the same as you shoot normally, or are there some advantages to modifying your stance and eyeline to better utilize the laser and a less obstructed view of the entire target?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 04, 2023 07:37 PM (HlyYF)
72
Weasel is going to shoot me when he gets back isn't he???😱
Posted by: lin-duh at June 04, 2023 07:38 PM (UUBmN)
73
Pillage Idiot, I wish I could go but I have taken on more work. I will support the NoVaMoMe any way I can though.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 04, 2023 07:40 PM (noN1Q)
74
Posted by: rhomboid at June 04, 2023 07:23 PM (yXaHK)
Rhomboid, I'd also add John Lundstrom's "The First Team." If you want an up close look at fighter combat in the first six months of 1942 in the Pacific, you'll find no better book than this on the subject. Even at this early date in the war, you can see that the USN was climbing the learning curve faster than the IJN when it came to fighter combat.
Rhomboid, I'd also add John Lundstrom's "The First Team." If you want an up close look at fighter combat in the first six months of 1942 in the Pacific, you'll find no better book than this on the subject. Even at this early date in the war, you can see that the USN was climbing the learning curve faster than the IJN when it came to fighter combat.
Posted by: Ed L at June 04, 2023 07:40 PM (yRXSd)
75
72 Weasel is going to shoot me when he gets back isn't he???😱
You have the Spawn of lin-duh to protect you. ;-)
You have the Spawn of lin-duh to protect you. ;-)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at June 04, 2023 07:41 PM (fe7in)
76
A woman (a new shooter) in my Stephan Ministry class asked me to get take to the range. As luck would have it, the local cop shop is holding a women's only class on firearm safety. Two weeks after than, they are holding a concealed carry class open to all. So, it appears she'll have a bit a training before we head out.
Posted by: Tonypete at June 04, 2023 07:41 PM (rH414)
77
Maybe I'm old school. But I still use an ACI.
Posted by: Marcus T at June 04, 2023 07:41 PM (SAX5G)
78
Weasel, I'm not gonna make it to the MoMe this year. I know it'll be a great time, but life and work is busy. Would've loved to buy you a drink, but hopefully things will slow down by next year.
Posted by: Draki at June 04, 2023 07:42 PM (Wtkdl)
79
My manager might be coming in October too if that's ok. She's been listening to me talk about the MoMo since I've known her. . . .
Posted by: lin-duh
You warned her about us, right?
Posted by: lin-duh
You warned her about us, right?
Posted by: Tonypete at June 04, 2023 07:42 PM (rH414)
80
{{Ben Had}}
I was out walking the other day and Johnny Lang came up from my playlist singing Still Raining. Thought of you.
I was out walking the other day and Johnny Lang came up from my playlist singing Still Raining. Thought of you.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 04, 2023 07:42 PM (t/2Uw)
81
61 Oh, so you're the troublemaker!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 04, 2023 07:31 PM
------
It's probably going on my permanent record.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(2YtOq) at June 04, 2023 07:32 PM
Pro tip: If making trouble, do it when Weasel is NOT around!
Pro tip #2: If Weasel IS around, then make sure he has a cigar in one hand, and a scotch in the other hand. That way he will be so happily occupied, that he won't bother himself to make a mark on your permanent record!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 04, 2023 07:31 PM
------
It's probably going on my permanent record.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(2YtOq) at June 04, 2023 07:32 PM
Pro tip: If making trouble, do it when Weasel is NOT around!
Pro tip #2: If Weasel IS around, then make sure he has a cigar in one hand, and a scotch in the other hand. That way he will be so happily occupied, that he won't bother himself to make a mark on your permanent record!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 04, 2023 07:42 PM (HlyYF)
82
45 Gotta step away for a little bit. Back soon.
Posted by: Weasel at June 04, 2023 07:25 PM
'Dispatch, take me out of service for a few minutes.'
Posted by: Weasel at June 04, 2023 07:25 PM
'Dispatch, take me out of service for a few minutes.'
Posted by: Eromero at June 04, 2023 07:43 PM (Uv0D2)
83
RIP John W. Brock, of New Brockton, AL. Torpedo 6. He flew an obsolete TBD Devastator torpedo bomber from the deck of the USS Enterprise to attack the Japanese Main Striking Force at Midway. Along with hundreds of other American sailors and airmen that day, he gallantly gave his life for his country. But they broke the back of the Imperial Japanese Navy, and changed the course of WWII in the Pacific. The American Legion Post in my old hometown is named in his honor.
Posted by: That Deplorable SOB Van Owen
Ensign George Gay, Torpedo Squadron 8, was the only survivor of his group from the Yorktown. All the rest of the pilots and gunners on those old Devastators were killed that day. Died to the last man, carrying out the attack.
George Gay lived to be quite and old man, and he asked that after he died, that his ashes be scattered over that part of the ocean where his brothers in arms all perished.
Stranger, go tell the Spartans
Here we lie according to their will
Posted by: That Deplorable SOB Van Owen
Ensign George Gay, Torpedo Squadron 8, was the only survivor of his group from the Yorktown. All the rest of the pilots and gunners on those old Devastators were killed that day. Died to the last man, carrying out the attack.
George Gay lived to be quite and old man, and he asked that after he died, that his ashes be scattered over that part of the ocean where his brothers in arms all perished.
Stranger, go tell the Spartans
Here we lie according to their will
Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at June 04, 2023 07:43 PM (tjZg/)
84
lin-duh, she will be most welcome and thank you for everything
Posted by: Ben Had at June 04, 2023 07:45 PM (noN1Q)
85
because I have a date with a lawnmower.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at June 04, 2023 07:32 PM
Be careful out there, Schnorfle. I believe a "date with a lawnmower" is the euphemism they are now using when a teen boy is going in for radical gender-denying surgery!
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at June 04, 2023 07:32 PM
Be careful out there, Schnorfle. I believe a "date with a lawnmower" is the euphemism they are now using when a teen boy is going in for radical gender-denying surgery!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 04, 2023 07:45 PM (HlyYF)
86
Pillage Idiot, I have no particular expertise re laser shooting, but open-eyes point shooting with the laser works fine for me, and that’s what I will have her practice. Short range, snub nose revolver.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 04, 2023 07:46 PM (yXaHK)
87
Blake-
The transonic zone is real. When a projectile goes from super sonic through trans sonic to subsonic the air flow is no longer compressing over the bullet. The drag coefficient changes. With some ‘’new’’ long for length Bullets the ability to transition through that zone is the key that bullet makers are going for. They are trying to get predictable travel through all zone of travel.
The transonic zone is real. When a projectile goes from super sonic through trans sonic to subsonic the air flow is no longer compressing over the bullet. The drag coefficient changes. With some ‘’new’’ long for length Bullets the ability to transition through that zone is the key that bullet makers are going for. They are trying to get predictable travel through all zone of travel.
Posted by: Nevada Dave at June 04, 2023 07:47 PM (z0lMG)
88
lin-duh, she will be most welcome and thank you for everything
Posted by: Ben Had at June 04, 2023 07:45 PM
I'm trying to get a couple of lurker friends to make it to the TxMoMe this year.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 04, 2023 07:45 PM
I'm trying to get a couple of lurker friends to make it to the TxMoMe this year.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 04, 2023 07:47 PM (Wnv9h)
89
My neighbor told me about the BangSteel clinic, back around Easter, had nothing but good things to say about it. Thinking if I complete my precision AR this year, I'd look into BangSteel next year.
Decent range time with two of the kiddos yesterday - bit of .22 and 9mm pistol, mostly GSG-16 (fun little .22 plinker).
Decent range time with two of the kiddos yesterday - bit of .22 and 9mm pistol, mostly GSG-16 (fun little .22 plinker).
Posted by: MD_Mike at June 04, 2023 07:48 PM (BouEL)
90
GWB, it was Blaster that sent you the info. I'll make sure he resends to everyone. Want to make sure everyone gets signed up ahead of time.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 04, 2023 07:48 PM (t/2Uw)
91
Sharon!!! I will have a glass of wine with your name on it when you arrive
Posted by: Ben Had at June 04, 2023 07:48 PM (noN1Q)
92
Awesome shootin', WN! Congrats!
My range report can't compete with that, but I did make it to PSA this week with the P365, 1911, and 1917 revolver.
My range report can't compete with that, but I did make it to PSA this week with the P365, 1911, and 1917 revolver.
Posted by: screaming in digital at June 04, 2023 07:50 PM (aBJcM)
93
EdL, concur on the Lundstrom book, and his other one (forget the name). Have them both.
And speaking of evolving fighter tactics, today also is the anniversary of a Zero with engine trouble putting down on Akutan in the Aleutians, as part of the odd northern operation coinciding with Midway.
It was brought here to North Island and Navy pilots were able to fly it and discover its weaknesses.
And speaking of evolving fighter tactics, today also is the anniversary of a Zero with engine trouble putting down on Akutan in the Aleutians, as part of the odd northern operation coinciding with Midway.
It was brought here to North Island and Navy pilots were able to fly it and discover its weaknesses.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 04, 2023 07:50 PM (yXaHK)
94
Be careful out there, Schnorfle. I believe a "date with a lawnmower" is the euphemism they are now using when a teen boy is going in for radical gender-denying surgery!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 04, 2023 07:45 PM (HlyYF)
I'm trying to improve that euphemism into a joke by noting that I have a rider, and failing miserably.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 04, 2023 07:45 PM (HlyYF)
I'm trying to improve that euphemism into a joke by noting that I have a rider, and failing miserably.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at June 04, 2023 07:50 PM (v23vE)
95
I wonder if this country could field a military like we had in WW II ever again?
Posted by: Eromero at June 04, 2023 07:51 PM (Uv0D2)
96
...What did long range shooters do before computer assisted atmosphere calcs? Other than guess and try and get closer. Posted by: Thesokorus at June 04, 2023 07:28 PM (qWNvd)
----------
I believe they actually did the math. Plus lots of rounds downrange. Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(2YtOq) at June 04, 2023 07:29 PM (2YtOq)
Charts. Books full of charts.
And some of those charts where the math formulas were printed, so the shooter could "fill in the blanks", follow the pre-printed formulas, and arrive at solutions.
IIRC, the gunwriter of the last name "Hatcher" was the authoritive source from "back in the day"?
To be certain, they'd address each and every variable that Weasel discusses in his class and on the firing line.
It's just that the Kestrel now provides most all the variables, and your ballistic calculator uses those for near-instant solutions.
I was born lacking the internal Kestrel chip, so would need to rely on the electronics.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
----------
I believe they actually did the math. Plus lots of rounds downrange. Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(2YtOq) at June 04, 2023 07:29 PM (2YtOq)
Charts. Books full of charts.
And some of those charts where the math formulas were printed, so the shooter could "fill in the blanks", follow the pre-printed formulas, and arrive at solutions.
IIRC, the gunwriter of the last name "Hatcher" was the authoritive source from "back in the day"?
To be certain, they'd address each and every variable that Weasel discusses in his class and on the firing line.
It's just that the Kestrel now provides most all the variables, and your ballistic calculator uses those for near-instant solutions.
I was born lacking the internal Kestrel chip, so would need to rely on the electronics.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at June 04, 2023 07:51 PM (e6UQI)
97
As to nukes.... I'm a goner if people firing them get anywhere close to the assumed targets. And my home office window faces the wrong way so I won't even get to see the pretty flash in my final millisecond.
Posted by: GWB at June 04, 2023 07:36 PM
There is a retired Titan II missile base catty-corner to our farm property.
Do you think the Russians have managed to update their ICBM targeting since the silo was filled with concrete many decades ago?
(We still have a U.S. government "cadillac" water well on our property.)
Posted by: GWB at June 04, 2023 07:36 PM
There is a retired Titan II missile base catty-corner to our farm property.
Do you think the Russians have managed to update their ICBM targeting since the silo was filled with concrete many decades ago?
(We still have a U.S. government "cadillac" water well on our property.)
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 04, 2023 07:51 PM (HlyYF)
98
Thanks to Washington Nearsider for that great long range school report. I suspect I would need the telescope from the Mt. Palomar observatory to be able to see some of those targets. Any idea what calibers the other shooters were using?
Posted by: JTB at June 04, 2023 07:51 PM (7EjX1)
99
RMBS, tell them they have a personal invitation from me.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 04, 2023 07:52 PM (noN1Q)
100
94 Be careful out there, Schnorfle. I believe a "date with a lawnmower" is the euphemism they are now using when a teen boy is going in for radical gender-denying surgery!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 04, 2023 07:45 PM (HlyYF)
I'm trying to improve that euphemism into a joke by noting that I have a rider, and failing miserably.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at June 04, 2023 07:50 PM
Well it is pride month.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 04, 2023 07:45 PM (HlyYF)
I'm trying to improve that euphemism into a joke by noting that I have a rider, and failing miserably.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at June 04, 2023 07:50 PM
Well it is pride month.
Posted by: Eromero at June 04, 2023 07:53 PM (Uv0D2)
101
That's impressive distance shooting...tried 600yds...didn't go well.
Posted by: BignJames at June 04, 2023 07:54 PM (AwYPR)
102
Jim. Hugs, darlin
Posted by: Ben Had at June 04, 2023 07:54 PM (noN1Q)
103
Nukes R cool.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 04, 2023 07:55 PM (UQtS4)
104
95 I wonder if this country could field a military like we had in WW II ever again?
Posted by: Eromero at June 04, 2023 07:51 PM
We probably could, but it would take the best that our country has to offer, leaving the dregs of society and those on the Left (but I repeat myself) running things.
Posted by: Eromero at June 04, 2023 07:51 PM
We probably could, but it would take the best that our country has to offer, leaving the dregs of society and those on the Left (but I repeat myself) running things.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at June 04, 2023 07:55 PM (fe7in)
105
73 Pillage Idiot, I wish I could go but I have taken on more work. I will support the NoVaMoMe any way I can though.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 04, 2023 07:40 PM
Thanks for your "support services" then. (However, I was hoping you were going!)
P.S. How are your hogs doing? I have a buddy north of you (in Bowie) and he said his hogs have been mysteriously absent this winter and spring. Like you, he has contributed to the demise of many!
Posted by: Ben Had at June 04, 2023 07:40 PM
Thanks for your "support services" then. (However, I was hoping you were going!)
P.S. How are your hogs doing? I have a buddy north of you (in Bowie) and he said his hogs have been mysteriously absent this winter and spring. Like you, he has contributed to the demise of many!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 04, 2023 07:56 PM (HlyYF)
106
Hello gubthreaders and all the ships at sea!
Hey if you are coming next Sunday to the post-MoMe shoot please pre-register with the range!
Hey if you are coming next Sunday to the post-MoMe shoot please pre-register with the range!
Posted by: blaster at June 04, 2023 07:56 PM (VT6+R)
107
Didn’t watch but theTaqueria shooting was a good shoot because he wasn’t indicted and no one killed except the perp. Results over theory.
Posted by: polynikes at June 04, 2023 07:57 PM (MNhXM)
108
Also, this past week sra blaster and I visited blaster acres and I got a chance to try out the Heritage Rough Rider with .22LR snakeshot (birdshot really).
Hah! It's somewhat more than a Bug-A-Salt at 5 yards, I think. But wouldn't want to test it.
Hah! It's somewhat more than a Bug-A-Salt at 5 yards, I think. But wouldn't want to test it.
Posted by: blaster at June 04, 2023 07:58 PM (VT6+R)
109
I will support the NoVaMoMe any way I can though.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 04, 2023 07:40 PM (noN1Q)
Send a live wild boar our way for the post-shoot-club?
Make it a raffle item.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 04, 2023 07:40 PM (noN1Q)
Send a live wild boar our way for the post-shoot-club?
Make it a raffle item.
Posted by: GWB at June 04, 2023 07:58 PM (vQrdQ)
110
Those videos were fantastic. The 1860 rifling machine is a hoot. I'm hugely impressed by the ingenuity that went into it and how it could be adapted to meet different criteria. It's interesting to note the features similar to the rifling tool in Colonial Williamsburg a century earlier and the differences that power source and metal technology made possible.
That Volley gun is simply a work of art. The workmanship on it is breathtaking.
That Volley gun is simply a work of art. The workmanship on it is breathtaking.
Posted by: JTB at June 04, 2023 07:58 PM (7EjX1)
111
It is interesting that I can sight fine outdoors on the rifle range but am hopeless indoors beyond 25 ft.
Not that I am all that accurate just that I can actually see the target.
Not that I am all that accurate just that I can actually see the target.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 04, 2023 07:58 PM (t/2Uw)
112
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 04, 2023 07:51 PM (HlyYF)
Short answer: Probably not. One of the reasons Russian cruise missiles keep hitting non-military targets in Ukraine is whoever did the mission planning used 1980s period maps/plans. The missiles hit apartment buildings or other buildings built since 1992 that were built in the missiles' pathways to the target. Which doesn't speak well to the FSB/GRU intelligence gathering abilities.
Short answer: Probably not. One of the reasons Russian cruise missiles keep hitting non-military targets in Ukraine is whoever did the mission planning used 1980s period maps/plans. The missiles hit apartment buildings or other buildings built since 1992 that were built in the missiles' pathways to the target. Which doesn't speak well to the FSB/GRU intelligence gathering abilities.
Posted by: Ed L at June 04, 2023 07:59 PM (yRXSd)
113
I often see results of hogs but not the actual hogs here in ETEX. Lottsa rootin' but little shootin'.
Posted by: Eromero at June 04, 2023 07:59 PM (Uv0D2)
114
86 Pillage Idiot, I have no particular expertise re laser shooting, but open-eyes point shooting with the laser works fine for me, and that’s what I will have her practice. Short range, snub nose revolver.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 04, 2023 07:46 PM
That technique seemed to work best for me. Although, that was just due to a noob experimenting.
Man, you should see the giant ellipses that I trace on the paper with the laser!
Posted by: rhomboid at June 04, 2023 07:46 PM
That technique seemed to work best for me. Although, that was just due to a noob experimenting.
Man, you should see the giant ellipses that I trace on the paper with the laser!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 04, 2023 07:59 PM (HlyYF)
115
Will be on our ways home by this time next week!
I am so looking forward to it.
Posted by: GWB
I'm not sure those 2 sentence were typed in the correct order.
I am so looking forward to it.
Posted by: GWB
I'm not sure those 2 sentence were typed in the correct order.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 04, 2023 08:00 PM (rCQZk)
116
Nice report and shooting WN!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 04, 2023 08:00 PM (rCQZk)
117
I was born lacking the internal Kestrel chip, so would need to rely on the electronics.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at June 04, 2023 07:51 PM (e6UQI)
Thanks. Cool. What did they do if they were in the field on a mission?
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at June 04, 2023 07:51 PM (e6UQI)
Thanks. Cool. What did they do if they were in the field on a mission?
Posted by: Thesokorus at June 04, 2023 08:00 PM (qWNvd)
118
thanks, Nevada Dave.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(2YtOq) at June 04, 2023 08:02 PM (2YtOq)
119
Range report:
Met MAE and LazyMessenger at our usual haunt. I was again working with the EMP Ronin, my carry. I was going from low ready to firing double and triple taps as fast as I was comfortable with at five yards. I was firing from both the hip and mid chest, no sights.
I'm trying to simulate and practice what I would actually have to use my carry for. It's close. It's quick and I won't be able to extend, aim, breathe, and gently squeeze the trigger.
I did ok.
Met MAE and LazyMessenger at our usual haunt. I was again working with the EMP Ronin, my carry. I was going from low ready to firing double and triple taps as fast as I was comfortable with at five yards. I was firing from both the hip and mid chest, no sights.
I'm trying to simulate and practice what I would actually have to use my carry for. It's close. It's quick and I won't be able to extend, aim, breathe, and gently squeeze the trigger.
I did ok.
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 04, 2023 08:02 PM (U2p+3)
120
RMBS, tell them they have a personal invitation from me.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 04, 2023 07:52 PM
Will do. Two are on TX. It's just a matter of scheduling. One's up here. We'll see what we can do.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 04, 2023 07:52 PM
Will do. Two are on TX. It's just a matter of scheduling. One's up here. We'll see what we can do.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 04, 2023 08:03 PM (Wnv9h)
121
Do we still get to talk about boobs on the Gun Thread?
--------------
Like this?
AOC Press Release (parody) @AOCpressTwo
I'm back - you mad, bro?
I'm starting from scratch because my previous 400,000 followers were all racists, bigots, xenophobes, homophobes, transphobes, white supremacists, and domestic terrorists.
--------------
Like this?
AOC Press Release (parody) @AOCpressTwo
I'm back - you mad, bro?
I'm starting from scratch because my previous 400,000 followers were all racists, bigots, xenophobes, homophobes, transphobes, white supremacists, and domestic terrorists.
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 04, 2023 08:03 PM (Vwz3I)
122
Which doesn't speak well to the FSB/GRU intelligence gathering abilities.
Posted by: Ed L at June 04, 2023 07:59 PM (yRXSd)
Where did you read this? I have seen nothing about this. I have seen that UKR AD has damaged (expectedly mostly) residential buildings. And RUS has aerial photos and sat coverage.
Posted by: Ed L at June 04, 2023 07:59 PM (yRXSd)
Where did you read this? I have seen nothing about this. I have seen that UKR AD has damaged (expectedly mostly) residential buildings. And RUS has aerial photos and sat coverage.
Posted by: Thesokorus at June 04, 2023 08:04 PM (qWNvd)
123
Non-range report. Spotted a doggone gopher in the lower yard, got mounted up on the golf cart with my .22 Cooey single-shot boltie. Motored down to a good vantage point waited some time; gopher did not put in an appearance. Skunked, I is.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 04, 2023 08:04 PM (I+uDt)
124
Pre Kestrel we used DOPE, Data On Previous Engagements.
Posted by: Nevada Dave at June 04, 2023 08:04 PM (z0lMG)
125
95 I wonder if this country could field a military like we had in WW II ever again?
Posted by: Eromero at June 04, 2023 07:51 PM
I don't believe we could in the near term.
Good times make weak men. The tribulations of the Great Depression created some strong men and strong women on one side of my family.
I don't want the U.S. to have to go through that again. However, I note that many politicians are trying to launch us once again down that path!
Posted by: Eromero at June 04, 2023 07:51 PM
I don't believe we could in the near term.
Good times make weak men. The tribulations of the Great Depression created some strong men and strong women on one side of my family.
I don't want the U.S. to have to go through that again. However, I note that many politicians are trying to launch us once again down that path!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 04, 2023 08:05 PM (HlyYF)
126
We probably could, but it would take the best that our country has to offer, leaving the dregs of society and those on the Left (but I repeat myself) running things.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude
So, no different from the '60s...
Posted by: Scuba_Dude
So, no different from the '60s...
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 04, 2023 08:05 PM (rCQZk)
127
nurse, I am fan of the John Wick method. Hard to miss from 2 feet
Posted by: Ben Had at June 04, 2023 08:06 PM (noN1Q)
128
BTW, is the info up about the PRE-MoMe? When, where?
Posted by: GWB at June 04, 2023 08:06 PM (vQrdQ)
129
I'm trying to improve that euphemism into a joke by noting that I have a rider, and failing miserably.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at June 04, 2023 07:50 PM
This is a comment section filled with AOS Morons.
Just say that you have a 24" seat height. As long as you don't fall off of the mower, the worst you could do is lose the tip!
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at June 04, 2023 07:50 PM
This is a comment section filled with AOS Morons.
Just say that you have a 24" seat height. As long as you don't fall off of the mower, the worst you could do is lose the tip!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 04, 2023 08:08 PM (HlyYF)
130
Lyudmila Pavlichenko (Lady Death), the WWII Russian sniper with 309 kills, completed marksmanship training while attending Kyiv University before the war. She writes about shooting bottles after a training session in the bush. They would set up a bottle about 100 ft away, and then, using the Mosin Nagant sniper rifle had to shoot through the neck to take out the bottom of the bottle without damaging the rest of the bottle.
Posted by: Davod at June 04, 2023 08:08 PM (fGRf+)
131
I doubt we could suffer the casualties of a meaningful offensive against either RUS or CHN.
Let alone a tactical reversal or Operational failure.
Psychologically
Let alone a tactical reversal or Operational failure.
Psychologically
Posted by: Thesokorus at June 04, 2023 08:08 PM (qWNvd)
132
I hope that one day some enterprising shooting equipment manufacturer will market a chronograph device to record the velocities of accidentally launched recoil springs. I had one escape from a Ruger LCP this week that I subjectively believe was faster than any spring I've ever experienced leaving an M1911. If it hadn't hit the back porch overhang, I'm convinced that it would have achieved low earth orbit.
Posted by: That Deplorable SOB Van Owen at June 04, 2023 08:08 PM (PWe8a)
133
Along with AOP's report I can report there is one less ground squirrel digging up our property.
22s through an Ithaca Gun Company 22 rifle purchased in 1969.
22s through an Ithaca Gun Company 22 rifle purchased in 1969.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 04, 2023 08:09 PM (rCQZk)
134
They would set up a bottle about 100 ft away, and then, using the Mosin Nagant sniper rifle had to shoot through the neck to take out the bottom of the bottle without damaging the rest of the bottle.
Posted by: Davod at June 04, 2023 08:08 PM (fGRf+)
That's a Hell of a way to make a nifty lamp!
Posted by: Davod at June 04, 2023 08:08 PM (fGRf+)
That's a Hell of a way to make a nifty lamp!
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 04, 2023 08:09 PM (I+uDt)
135
Ben Had!
@ Washington Nearsider. Admiration for your outing, and jealous of the opportunity. Bucket list stuff, that!
.. Thanks. Cool. What did they do if they were in the field on a mission? Posted by: Thesokorus at June 04, 2023 08:00 PM (qWNvd)
Dope Card, experience and Scientific Wild Ass Guesstimation. (SWAG).
In the VietNam war, Carlos Hathcock used this method to great effect. Electronics began to become a thing in the '80s, and that was just temp and relative humidity. Rangefinders then, were still optical collimator devices.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Ben Had!
@ Washington Nearsider. Admiration for your outing, and jealous of the opportunity. Bucket list stuff, that!
.. Thanks. Cool. What did they do if they were in the field on a mission? Posted by: Thesokorus at June 04, 2023 08:00 PM (qWNvd)
Dope Card, experience and Scientific Wild Ass Guesstimation. (SWAG).
In the VietNam war, Carlos Hathcock used this method to great effect. Electronics began to become a thing in the '80s, and that was just temp and relative humidity. Rangefinders then, were still optical collimator devices.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at June 04, 2023 08:10 PM (e6UQI)
136
Posted by: Thesokorus at June 04, 2023 08:04 PM (qWNvd)
Saw a podcast w/ Justin Bronk from RUSI who had worked on a RUSI analysis of the first 6-8 months of the war. He'd analyzed the flight paths of several Kalibr cruise missiles targeting Kyiv that hit civilian targets and concluded that the missiles were aimed at former Ukrainian military base that had been vacated at the end of the 1990s. The path the missiles took (using OSINT because the attacks were in daylight) intersected w/ buildings that didn't exist in 1992, thus his conclusion. Could he be wrong? Sure. But I haven't seen anyone else do a deep dive into analyzing why the Russians keep wasting high value assets against worthless (militarily) targets.
Saw a podcast w/ Justin Bronk from RUSI who had worked on a RUSI analysis of the first 6-8 months of the war. He'd analyzed the flight paths of several Kalibr cruise missiles targeting Kyiv that hit civilian targets and concluded that the missiles were aimed at former Ukrainian military base that had been vacated at the end of the 1990s. The path the missiles took (using OSINT because the attacks were in daylight) intersected w/ buildings that didn't exist in 1992, thus his conclusion. Could he be wrong? Sure. But I haven't seen anyone else do a deep dive into analyzing why the Russians keep wasting high value assets against worthless (militarily) targets.
Posted by: Ed L at June 04, 2023 08:11 PM (yRXSd)
137
Nice choice of musical interlude, Weasel.
The Fourth Shot (he said you'd know who he is) asked me to note that the now traditional 2000 hrs CC sitrep is MIA.
The Fourth Shot (he said you'd know who he is) asked me to note that the now traditional 2000 hrs CC sitrep is MIA.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 04, 2023 08:12 PM (a3Q+t)
138
Posted by: Thesokorus at June 04, 2023 08:04 PM (qWNvd)
And yes, the "what goes up must come down" rule for AAA in WWII is still just as true today as it was back then. "Friendly fire isn't" still has its place in Murphy's Laws of Combat.
And yes, the "what goes up must come down" rule for AAA in WWII is still just as true today as it was back then. "Friendly fire isn't" still has its place in Murphy's Laws of Combat.
Posted by: Ed L at June 04, 2023 08:13 PM (yRXSd)
139
123 Non-range report. Spotted a doggone gopher in the lower yard, got mounted up on the golf cart with my .22 Cooey single-shot boltie. Motored down to a good vantage point waited some time; gopher did not put in an appearance. Skunked, I is.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 04, 2023 08:04 PM
Damned gophers are clearly developing a covert intelligence network within the U.S., that tipped them to their impending danger.
Most likely treasonous culprits - the Democratic Underground!
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 04, 2023 08:04 PM
Damned gophers are clearly developing a covert intelligence network within the U.S., that tipped them to their impending danger.
Most likely treasonous culprits - the Democratic Underground!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 04, 2023 08:13 PM (HlyYF)
140
Well since the .22 has been put away, I believe I will have another Caesar. brb
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 04, 2023 08:13 PM (I+uDt)
141
"They would set up a bottle about 100 ft away, and then, using the Mosin Nagant sniper rifle had to shoot through the neck to take out the bottom of the bottle without damaging the rest of the bottle."
Old light bulbs. Screw it into a hole in cardboard box with a little of the base showing. Shoot the bulb away, then the little glass part sticking up out of the base, and then the base. Fun with a pellet gun or 22.
Old light bulbs. Screw it into a hole in cardboard box with a little of the base showing. Shoot the bulb away, then the little glass part sticking up out of the base, and then the base. Fun with a pellet gun or 22.
Posted by: fd at June 04, 2023 08:15 PM (iayUP)
142
132 I hope that one day some enterprising shooting equipment manufacturer will market a chronograph device to record the velocities of accidentally launched recoil springs. I had one escape from a Ruger LCP this week that I subjectively believe was faster than any spring I've ever experienced leaving an M1911. If it hadn't hit the back porch overhang, I'm convinced that it would have achieved low earth orbit.
Posted by: That Deplorable SOB Van Owen at June 04, 2023 08:08 PM
Pro tip: Always make sure to buy the sub-sonic springs. Your odds of recovering them are significantly higher!
Posted by: That Deplorable SOB Van Owen at June 04, 2023 08:08 PM
Pro tip: Always make sure to buy the sub-sonic springs. Your odds of recovering them are significantly higher!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 04, 2023 08:16 PM (HlyYF)
143
Damned gophers are clearly developing a covert intelligence network within the U.S., that tipped them to their impending danger.
Most likely treasonous culprits - the Democratic Underground!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 04, 2023 08:13 PM (HlyYF)
Well, these are Canuck gophers, so probably welfare recipients. The usual gopher around here is the Richardson's Ground Squirrel, as seen in the Gopher Hole Museum in Torrington, Alberta. Search that, and visit the museum online. It is a real hoot, believe me!
But what I have here, for some inexplicable reason, is Nine-Banded Ground Squirrels, which look sort of chipmunk-y.
Most likely treasonous culprits - the Democratic Underground!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 04, 2023 08:13 PM (HlyYF)
Well, these are Canuck gophers, so probably welfare recipients. The usual gopher around here is the Richardson's Ground Squirrel, as seen in the Gopher Hole Museum in Torrington, Alberta. Search that, and visit the museum online. It is a real hoot, believe me!
But what I have here, for some inexplicable reason, is Nine-Banded Ground Squirrels, which look sort of chipmunk-y.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 04, 2023 08:17 PM (I+uDt)
144
Any idea what calibers the other shooters were using?
Posted by: JTB at June 04, 2023 07:51 PM (7EjX1)
6.5 Creedmoor, 308, and one 7mm shooter.
Of note - everyone but me was shooting handloads, and my factor stuff was doing just fine, comparatively.
Posted by: JTB at June 04, 2023 07:51 PM (7EjX1)
6.5 Creedmoor, 308, and one 7mm shooter.
Of note - everyone but me was shooting handloads, and my factor stuff was doing just fine, comparatively.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 04, 2023 08:17 PM (/nCD+)
145
Old light bulbs. Screw it into a hole in cardboard box with a little of the base showing. Shoot the bulb away, then the little glass part sticking up out of the base, and then the base. Fun with a pellet gun or 22.
Posted by: fd at June 04, 2023 08:15 PM (iayUP)
TV sets. They blow up real good, and an angel gets her wings for every one destroyed.
Posted by: fd at June 04, 2023 08:15 PM (iayUP)
TV sets. They blow up real good, and an angel gets her wings for every one destroyed.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 04, 2023 08:18 PM (I+uDt)
146
Well since the .22 has been put away, I believe I will have another Caesar. brb
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
AOP did you note that BUD had to sell Modelo when they bought AB? True in the US; but, I don't know who makes it in the frozen north (AKA CN).
So Modelo Negra will be the 'house beer' here as soon as I make it to a grocery store.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
AOP did you note that BUD had to sell Modelo when they bought AB? True in the US; but, I don't know who makes it in the frozen north (AKA CN).
So Modelo Negra will be the 'house beer' here as soon as I make it to a grocery store.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 04, 2023 08:18 PM (rCQZk)
147
133 Along with AOP's report I can report there is one less ground squirrel digging up our property.
22s through an Ithaca Gun Company 22 rifle purchased in 1969.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 04, 2023 08:09 PM
Nice shooting!
Did you place his head on a pike, pour encourager les autres?
22s through an Ithaca Gun Company 22 rifle purchased in 1969.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 04, 2023 08:09 PM
Nice shooting!
Did you place his head on a pike, pour encourager les autres?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 04, 2023 08:19 PM (HlyYF)
148
123 Non-range report. Spotted a doggone gopher in the lower yard, got mounted up on the golf cart with my .22 Cooey single-shot boltie. Motored down to a good vantage point waited some time; gopher did not put in an appearance. Skunked, I is.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
I have friends who have a lovely spread in Marion, MT. He was having trouble with gophers propagating his landing strip. So, he armed me and my boys with .22s with scopes, a cooler full of cokes, and lawn chairs.
It was a fun afternoon.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
I have friends who have a lovely spread in Marion, MT. He was having trouble with gophers propagating his landing strip. So, he armed me and my boys with .22s with scopes, a cooler full of cokes, and lawn chairs.
It was a fun afternoon.
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 04, 2023 08:20 PM (U2p+3)
149
Did you place his head on a pike, pour encourager les autres?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot
I tossed him into the Park South of the property to attract more coyotes so I don't have to waste ammo on them...
Did you place his head on a pike, pour encourager les autres?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot
I tossed him into the Park South of the property to attract more coyotes so I don't have to waste ammo on them...
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 04, 2023 08:21 PM (rCQZk)
150
I'm loading moon clips for the 1917 for the MGC next Sunday. So some a'y'all better shoot it.
Posted by: screaming in digital at June 04, 2023 08:22 PM (aBJcM)
151
CC Sitrep...
WD on CC1, FSJ on CC2. WCv2 on back of couch looking on with disgust.
WD on CC1, FSJ on CC2. WCv2 on back of couch looking on with disgust.
Posted by: Weasel at June 04, 2023 08:22 PM (RG6z4)
152
Lin-duh is in big fat trouble!
Posted by: Weasel at June 04, 2023 08:23 PM (RG6z4)
153
But I haven't seen anyone else do a deep dive into analyzing why the Russians keep wasting high value assets against worthless (militarily) targets.
Posted by: Ed L at June 04, 2023 08:11 PM (yRXSd)
Maybe so. I'll have to check it out. Thanks.
Posted by: Ed L at June 04, 2023 08:11 PM (yRXSd)
Maybe so. I'll have to check it out. Thanks.
Posted by: Thesokorus at June 04, 2023 08:23 PM (F6L9M)
154
WCv2 owns it all.
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 04, 2023 08:24 PM (U2p+3)
155
AOP did you note that BUD had to sell Modelo when they bought AB? True in the US; but, I don't know who makes it in the frozen north (AKA CN).
So Modelo Negra will be the 'house beer' here as soon as I make it to a grocery store.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 04, 2023 08:18 PM (rCQZk)
I don't know if it gets made here, or is an import. We have severla good microbrewers here, and I have been buying Brewhouse Ultra out of Saskatoon. It is (relatively) cheap, and is OK lawnmower beer.
So Modelo Negra will be the 'house beer' here as soon as I make it to a grocery store.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 04, 2023 08:18 PM (rCQZk)
I don't know if it gets made here, or is an import. We have severla good microbrewers here, and I have been buying Brewhouse Ultra out of Saskatoon. It is (relatively) cheap, and is OK lawnmower beer.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 04, 2023 08:24 PM (I+uDt)
156
Washington Nearsider-
Interesting about most using hand loads. Most I get are using high quality factory ammo (lots of Hornady match). Far and away most popular caliber is 6.5 creed. Seeing more and more 300 PRC in the 30 caliber guns.
Interesting about most using hand loads. Most I get are using high quality factory ammo (lots of Hornady match). Far and away most popular caliber is 6.5 creed. Seeing more and more 300 PRC in the 30 caliber guns.
Posted by: Nevada Dave at June 04, 2023 08:24 PM (z0lMG)
157
Of note - everyone but me was shooting handloads
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 04, 2023 08:17 PM
This situation can be remedied. Our host, Mr. Weasel, has written fairly extensively on getting started. As he's an Honorary Texan, I won't be remiss in conjecturing he'd be pleased if that helped you on this journey.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 04, 2023 08:17 PM
This situation can be remedied. Our host, Mr. Weasel, has written fairly extensively on getting started. As he's an Honorary Texan, I won't be remiss in conjecturing he'd be pleased if that helped you on this journey.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 04, 2023 08:24 PM (a3Q+t)
158
Posted by: Nevada Dave at June 04, 2023 07:11 PM (z0lMG)
Northern or Southern Nevada, Dave?
I honed my skills in the Pine Nuts outside Carson City.
Northern or Southern Nevada, Dave?
I honed my skills in the Pine Nuts outside Carson City.
Posted by: Reforger at June 04, 2023 08:25 PM (B705c)
159
I tossed him into the Park South of the property to attract more coyotes so I don't have to waste ammo on them...
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 04, 2023 08:21 PM
Nice.
I am glad to see that his death was not in vain, and he can still serve a useful purpose!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 04, 2023 08:21 PM
Nice.
I am glad to see that his death was not in vain, and he can still serve a useful purpose!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 04, 2023 08:26 PM (HlyYF)
160
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
I'll have it on hand when you get down here next time.
And I mean as soon as you get in the area as I know that is a long drive.
I'll have it on hand when you get down here next time.
And I mean as soon as you get in the area as I know that is a long drive.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 04, 2023 08:26 PM (rCQZk)
161
Was speaking with a military trainer the other day who said it's tough to teach a group to become a "band of brothers" when you also have to teach through DEI that they should resent or hate other members of their group.
Also made the point that the term "diversity" comes from the word divide.
Also made the point that the term "diversity" comes from the word divide.
Posted by: Regular joe at June 04, 2023 08:26 PM (nnp+f)
162
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 04, 2023 08:18 PM (I+uDt)
Please don't shoot old TV sets or CRT monitors. The interior side of the glass is coated with lead to shield you from the x-rays generated by the electrons hitting the glass. This creates an environmental lead hazard around the target area from the broken glass.
Please don't shoot old TV sets or CRT monitors. The interior side of the glass is coated with lead to shield you from the x-rays generated by the electrons hitting the glass. This creates an environmental lead hazard around the target area from the broken glass.
Posted by: Ed L at June 04, 2023 08:27 PM (yRXSd)
163
>>> 98 Thanks to Washington Nearsider for that great long range school report. I suspect I would need the telescope from the Mt. Palomar observatory to be able to see some of those targets. Any idea what calibers the other shooters were using?
Posted by: JTB at June 04, 2023 07:51 PM (7EjX1)
You mean the big one? They have four.
Posted by: JTB at June 04, 2023 07:51 PM (7EjX1)
You mean the big one? They have four.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 04, 2023 08:27 PM (llON8)
164
144 ... "6.5 Creedmoor, 308, and one 7mm shooter."
WN,
Thanks for the info. I do have a Savage bolt action in 308 with a scope. I should learn to use it better. I'll probably never shoot beyond 300 yards but the 308, and a model 1917 in 30-06, would be good places to start. And I have plenty of brass and appropriate powders.
WN,
Thanks for the info. I do have a Savage bolt action in 308 with a scope. I should learn to use it better. I'll probably never shoot beyond 300 yards but the 308, and a model 1917 in 30-06, would be good places to start. And I have plenty of brass and appropriate powders.
Posted by: JTB at June 04, 2023 08:27 PM (7EjX1)
165
What did shooters do before they could easily collect atmospheric data? Good question. What I did before buying and using a Kestrel was to record temp and a guess at elevation and baro pressure with observed range data. It was cumbersome, so moving to DA greatly simplified things and made the recorded data more useful.
Posted by: Weasel at June 04, 2023 08:27 PM (k10B1)
166
People in DC are freaked out by a sonic boom. The pilot should be dishonorably discharged. Sheesh.
Posted by: fd at June 04, 2023 08:27 PM (iayUP)
167
I won't be remiss in conjecturing he'd be pleased if that helped you on this journey.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 04, 2023 08:24 PM (a3Q+t)
Indeed. And I've been saving my brass all along - just in cases.
I don't anticipate I'll start reloading, so I've got hundreds of 6.5 Creedmoor cases just packed up in ammo cans. For the 'maybe' part of my thinking.
I also tell myself I could sell the brass if I wanted to.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 04, 2023 08:24 PM (a3Q+t)
Indeed. And I've been saving my brass all along - just in cases.
I don't anticipate I'll start reloading, so I've got hundreds of 6.5 Creedmoor cases just packed up in ammo cans. For the 'maybe' part of my thinking.
I also tell myself I could sell the brass if I wanted to.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 04, 2023 08:27 PM (/nCD+)
Posted by: Nevada Dave at June 04, 2023 08:28 PM (z0lMG)
169
I'll probably never shoot beyond 300 yards but the 308, and a model 1917 in 30-06, would be good places to start. And I have plenty of brass and appropriate powders.
Posted by: JTB at June 04, 2023 08:27 PM (7EjX1)
You totally could. At BangSteel. You could get out to 1.25 miles.
Just saying.
Posted by: JTB at June 04, 2023 08:27 PM (7EjX1)
You totally could. At BangSteel. You could get out to 1.25 miles.
Just saying.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 04, 2023 08:28 PM (/nCD+)
170
Got a Ruger break barrel pellet rifle last wk....thing is heavy and hard for an old man to cock.
Posted by: BignJames at June 04, 2023 08:29 PM (AwYPR)
171
WD on CC1, FSJ on CC2. WCv2 on back of couch looking on with disgust.
Posted by: Weasel at June 04, 2023 08:22 PM
Thanks for the update.
Probably better tell WCv2 that if he keeps that expression on his face too much, it will probably freeze that way!
(We too are experiencing "range wars" in the Idiot household!)
Posted by: Weasel at June 04, 2023 08:22 PM
Thanks for the update.
Probably better tell WCv2 that if he keeps that expression on his face too much, it will probably freeze that way!
(We too are experiencing "range wars" in the Idiot household!)
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 04, 2023 08:30 PM (HlyYF)
172
Please don't shoot old TV sets or CRT monitors. The interior side of the glass is coated with lead to shield you from the x-rays generated by the electrons hitting the glass. This creates an environmental lead hazard around the target area from the broken glass.
Posted by: Ed L at June 04, 2023 08:27 PM (yRXSd)
The lead is incorporated right into the glass at the molecular level. Dissolved in the glass, if you will. The lead in the .22 bullet is more readily bioavailable.
Posted by: Ed L at June 04, 2023 08:27 PM (yRXSd)
The lead is incorporated right into the glass at the molecular level. Dissolved in the glass, if you will. The lead in the .22 bullet is more readily bioavailable.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 04, 2023 08:31 PM (I+uDt)
173
What I did before buying and using a Kestrel was to record temp and a guess at elevation and baro pressure with observed range data. It was cumbersome, so moving to DA greatly simplified things and made the recorded data more useful.
Posted by: Weasel at June 04, 2023 08:27 PM (k10B1)
Thanks weasel. Very cool.
Posted by: Weasel at June 04, 2023 08:27 PM (k10B1)
Thanks weasel. Very cool.
Posted by: Thesokorus at June 04, 2023 08:31 PM (F6L9M)
174
I'm loading moon clips for the 1917 for the MGC next Sunday. So some a'y'all better shoot it.
Posted by: screaming in digital
um, SiD, I did not understand a word of that except the shooting part.
Posted by: screaming in digital
um, SiD, I did not understand a word of that except the shooting part.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 04, 2023 08:32 PM (t/2Uw)
175
Guns!
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy Ammo, food, water at June 04, 2023 08:32 PM (xcxpd)
176
FUN FACT: CC1 was originally purchased for WCv2, who occasionally reclaims it!
Posted by: Weasel at June 04, 2023 08:32 PM (k10B1)
177
161 Was speaking with a military trainer the other day who said it's tough to teach a group to become a "band of brothers" when you also have to teach through DEI that they should resent or hate other members of their group.
Also made the point that the term "diversity" comes from the word divide.
Posted by: Regular joe at June 04, 2023 08:26 PM
Unfortunate that everything he said is well above the comprehension levels of Austin and Milley!
Also made the point that the term "diversity" comes from the word divide.
Posted by: Regular joe at June 04, 2023 08:26 PM
Unfortunate that everything he said is well above the comprehension levels of Austin and Milley!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 04, 2023 08:33 PM (HlyYF)
178
166 People in DC are freaked out by a sonic boom. The pilot should be dishonorably discharged. Sheesh.
Posted by: fd at June 04, 2023 08:27 PM
Went supersonic AND freaked out people in DC - give that pilot a medal!
Posted by: fd at June 04, 2023 08:27 PM
Went supersonic AND freaked out people in DC - give that pilot a medal!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 04, 2023 08:35 PM (HlyYF)
179
Tried to go to the new PSA store in Myrtle Beach. 400 people and cars at least. I am hoping to get back there in a couple of months when the excitement wears off.
Posted by: hubcap at June 04, 2023 08:36 PM (ZxpLT)
180
Posted by: Thesokorus at June 04, 2023 08:31 PM (F6L9M)
----
When I say it was "cumbersome" I really mean it was a giant pain in the ass. Hence, the Kestrel! When you're shooting for score, you generally do not want to guessing at stuff like elevation settings on your rifle scope.
----
When I say it was "cumbersome" I really mean it was a giant pain in the ass. Hence, the Kestrel! When you're shooting for score, you generally do not want to guessing at stuff like elevation settings on your rifle scope.
Posted by: Weasel at June 04, 2023 08:36 PM (k10B1)
181
Range report again, feel free to skip.
Was at the Bellevue range with the Nurse and Lazy Messenger. I was testing my shoulder rig in advance of a trip at the end of June and thus testing the PSA Dagger I'd selected for the trip, after verifying my carry permit would work for the states I'm traveling through.
I was comparing two PSA Daggers, one with red dot and one with irons. Oddly...I think I did better with the iron sights, though to be fair, I wasn't doing holster draws with both tools. Frankly, I seem to do better with 'squishy' striker triggers, probably due to familiarity.
Anyway, finished up the session with some 25 yard iron sight .22 testing and ended with a pretty good day. My Dot Torture drills weren't perfect but I could cover all the hits with three closed fingers, so that's good. Not ideal but good.
I'll let the Nurse and LM give their reports but I can confirm that the Nurse again did some very good one-hole drills with her Springfield Ronin. She does shoot a 1911 well.
Was at the Bellevue range with the Nurse and Lazy Messenger. I was testing my shoulder rig in advance of a trip at the end of June and thus testing the PSA Dagger I'd selected for the trip, after verifying my carry permit would work for the states I'm traveling through.
I was comparing two PSA Daggers, one with red dot and one with irons. Oddly...I think I did better with the iron sights, though to be fair, I wasn't doing holster draws with both tools. Frankly, I seem to do better with 'squishy' striker triggers, probably due to familiarity.
Anyway, finished up the session with some 25 yard iron sight .22 testing and ended with a pretty good day. My Dot Torture drills weren't perfect but I could cover all the hits with three closed fingers, so that's good. Not ideal but good.
I'll let the Nurse and LM give their reports but I can confirm that the Nurse again did some very good one-hole drills with her Springfield Ronin. She does shoot a 1911 well.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy Ammo, food, water at June 04, 2023 08:36 PM (xcxpd)
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 04, 2023 08:37 PM (HlyYF)
183
I have 4 Nuggets. One is a tack driver, one is okay but jams on about every other round, one is an all around POS and one functions great but isn't accurate at all.
All are from pre WW2 Russia. I think the Soviet quality control was fucked. I think if you got one you could even HIT a bottle at 100 meters with you were lucky. If you could do it twice without the aid of a hammer you were blessed.
All are from pre WW2 Russia. I think the Soviet quality control was fucked. I think if you got one you could even HIT a bottle at 100 meters with you were lucky. If you could do it twice without the aid of a hammer you were blessed.
Posted by: Reforger at June 04, 2023 08:38 PM (B705c)
184
Unfortunate that everything he said is well above the comprehension levels of Austin and Milley!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 04, 2023 08:33 PM (HlyYF)
Nah, they know. They've just chosen the side of evil. See also Matthew Ridgeway and JFK.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 04, 2023 08:33 PM (HlyYF)
Nah, they know. They've just chosen the side of evil. See also Matthew Ridgeway and JFK.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy Ammo, food, water at June 04, 2023 08:38 PM (xcxpd)
185
300 yds with a .22lr is about like shooting 7.62 x 51 at 1000 yds. About the same drop (10 ft or so) and same wind deflection.
Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at June 04, 2023 08:38 PM (CecP5)
186
169 ... "You totally could. At BangSteel. You could get out to 1.25 miles."
WN,
LOL. Unless all the shooting is from a bench and has very comfortable chairs, it ain't happening. Sad. But these days getting down to, and especially up from, the ground is somewhere between impossible and hilarious.
WN,
LOL. Unless all the shooting is from a bench and has very comfortable chairs, it ain't happening. Sad. But these days getting down to, and especially up from, the ground is somewhere between impossible and hilarious.
Posted by: JTB at June 04, 2023 08:38 PM (7EjX1)
187
Posted by: GWB at June 04, 2023 08:06 PM (vQrdQ)
---
Go to the original information page that bluebell sent to you.
---
Go to the original information page that bluebell sent to you.
Posted by: Weasel at June 04, 2023 08:39 PM (k10B1)
Posted by: lin-duh at June 04, 2023 08:39 PM (UUBmN)
189
170 Got a Ruger break barrel pellet rifle last wk....thing is heavy and hard for an old man to cock.
Posted by: BignJames at June 04, 2023 08:29 PM (AwYPR)
I have one too. Not a fan, but I suppose it will work without needing an air compressor...
Posted by: BignJames at June 04, 2023 08:29 PM (AwYPR)
I have one too. Not a fan, but I suppose it will work without needing an air compressor...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy Ammo, food, water at June 04, 2023 08:39 PM (xcxpd)
190
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 04, 2023 08:37 PM (HlyYF)
----
Got it! Might be easier to discuss by phone. Give me a call this week.
----
Got it! Might be easier to discuss by phone. Give me a call this week.
Posted by: Weasel at June 04, 2023 08:40 PM (k10B1)
191
FUN FACT: CC1 was originally purchased for WCv2, who occasionally reclaims it!
Posted by: Weasel at June 04, 2023 08:32 PM
Is it time for CC3?
Posted by: Weasel at June 04, 2023 08:32 PM
Is it time for CC3?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 04, 2023 08:41 PM (a3Q+t)
192
Please don't shoot old TV sets or CRT monitors. The interior side of the glass is coated with lead to shield you from the x-rays generated by the electrons hitting the glass. This creates an environmental lead hazard around the target area from the broken glass.
Posted by: Ed L at June 04, 2023 08:27 PM (yRXSd)
Not that I do shoot that stuff but...more or less lead than is the bullets being fired?
Posted by: Ed L at June 04, 2023 08:27 PM (yRXSd)
Not that I do shoot that stuff but...more or less lead than is the bullets being fired?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy Ammo, food, water at June 04, 2023 08:41 PM (xcxpd)
193
168 Reforger-
Northern, the pine nuts are behind me Sierras in front. Just south of Carson.
Posted by: Nevada Dave at June 04, 2023 08:28 PM (z0lMG)
We neighbors!! Garbageville?
Northern, the pine nuts are behind me Sierras in front. Just south of Carson.
Posted by: Nevada Dave at June 04, 2023 08:28 PM (z0lMG)
We neighbors!! Garbageville?
Posted by: Reforger at June 04, 2023 08:41 PM (B705c)
194
Moon clips make you a crack shot, Sharon.
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 04, 2023 08:41 PM (Vwz3I)
195
On the off chance no one has mentioned the ATFs pistol brace ban, the compliance numbers were released.
Of the potential ATF approved 40M legally sold and purchased braced pistols that were deemed SBRs and now require stamps, paperwork, etc., 255K applications for compliance were submitted.
Of the potential ATF approved 40M legally sold and purchased braced pistols that were deemed SBRs and now require stamps, paperwork, etc., 255K applications for compliance were submitted.
Posted by: Have you figured out that the gay flag is a p3d0 flag? at June 04, 2023 08:41 PM (b4nR4)
196
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 04, 2023 08:31 PM (I+uDt)
Got yelled at by a range NCO who saw us popping away at broken TV sets w/ our M16s at the end of weapons qualification. I was told later that the range was under scrutiny for releases of lead from the berms, and that the range didn't need any additional headaches from yahoos like us adding to their problems.
Got yelled at by a range NCO who saw us popping away at broken TV sets w/ our M16s at the end of weapons qualification. I was told later that the range was under scrutiny for releases of lead from the berms, and that the range didn't need any additional headaches from yahoos like us adding to their problems.
Posted by: Ed L at June 04, 2023 08:42 PM (yRXSd)
197
Few years back, I bought a 1960's Winchester 88, in .308 Win. Weaver K-4 scope, old fashioned fine-wire cross hairs. Box magazine, lever action rifle, if'n ya didn't know.
With DB Cooper's handloads, 168 gr. Sierra Match King projectiles, it'll shoot cloverleaf groups at 100 yds. And that's with a bear-trap of a crappy trigger. Same projectile in the Federal Gold Match? 1.5 inch groups, best so far.
Still, not complaining of either. Rifle is what, fifty some odd years old, so is the scope. Pencil thin barrel. Everything you'd think wouldn't be accurate, but this one is.
Counting my blessings on that one, for sure!
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
With DB Cooper's handloads, 168 gr. Sierra Match King projectiles, it'll shoot cloverleaf groups at 100 yds. And that's with a bear-trap of a crappy trigger. Same projectile in the Federal Gold Match? 1.5 inch groups, best so far.
Still, not complaining of either. Rifle is what, fifty some odd years old, so is the scope. Pencil thin barrel. Everything you'd think wouldn't be accurate, but this one is.
Counting my blessings on that one, for sure!
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at June 04, 2023 08:43 PM (e6UQI)
198
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 04, 2023 08:41 PM (a3Q+t)
-----
WW would not approve. As it is, with two CC's full of dogs and WCv2 in the mix, there is frequently no place for the people in the house to sit!
-----
WW would not approve. As it is, with two CC's full of dogs and WCv2 in the mix, there is frequently no place for the people in the house to sit!
Posted by: Weasel at June 04, 2023 08:43 PM (k10B1)
199
193 Reforger-
You got it.
You got it.
Posted by: Nevada Dave at June 04, 2023 08:43 PM (z0lMG)
200
My laser on my large pistol broke while I was at the range (I wasn't using it). I bought a green one with a light and lined it up with a barrel sight. Green is better because I use a red dot.
On a lark I wondered how much it would cost to get Marty McFly's guitar. Epiphone (not Gibson) semihollow in cherry red with white piping would be $600. I doubt the paint would look as good in person, but it is tempting.
On a lark I wondered how much it would cost to get Marty McFly's guitar. Epiphone (not Gibson) semihollow in cherry red with white piping would be $600. I doubt the paint would look as good in person, but it is tempting.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 04, 2023 08:43 PM (ybIRR)
201
Got it! Might be easier to discuss by phone. Give me a call this week.
Posted by: Weasel at June 04, 2023 08:40 PM
Thanks. Will do!
Posted by: Weasel at June 04, 2023 08:40 PM
Thanks. Will do!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 04, 2023 08:44 PM (HlyYF)
202
Posted by: Reforger at June 04, 2023 08:38 PM (B705c)
Considering that the Soviets used worn out Mosin barrels suitably cut down to build PpSH-41 SMGs, I think QC wasn't one of the things Soviet arsenals worried about.
Considering that the Soviets used worn out Mosin barrels suitably cut down to build PpSH-41 SMGs, I think QC wasn't one of the things Soviet arsenals worried about.
Posted by: Ed L at June 04, 2023 08:45 PM (yRXSd)
203
You got it.
Posted by: Nevada Dave at June 04, 2023 08:43 PM (z0lMG)
Lot of snow in those mountains above you still.
Posted by: Nevada Dave at June 04, 2023 08:43 PM (z0lMG)
Lot of snow in those mountains above you still.
Posted by: Reforger at June 04, 2023 08:46 PM (B705c)
204
183 I have 4 Nuggets. One is a tack driver, one is okay but jams on about every other round, one is an all around POS and one functions great but isn't accurate at all.
All are from pre WW2 Russia. I think the Soviet quality control was fucked. I think if you got one you could even HIT a bottle at 100 meters with you were lucky. If you could do it twice without the aid of a hammer you were blessed.
Posted by: Reforger
--------
The jamming Mosin can be fixed---you can substituted Finn Mosin parts for the magazine/trigger guard and interruptor without harm to the original parts if you ever want to reinstall them. Also you have to do a deep scrub as Soviet version of Cosmolene was some nasty stuff that can lead to malfunctions.
Bore sizes on Mosins vary a bit so you probably would get better accuracy on the rest if you fired cast bullets sized for the bore via a slug test.
For accurizing tips, go to Smith Sights and they have both the parts and the tips for getting the most of of your Mosin.
All are from pre WW2 Russia. I think the Soviet quality control was fucked. I think if you got one you could even HIT a bottle at 100 meters with you were lucky. If you could do it twice without the aid of a hammer you were blessed.
Posted by: Reforger
--------
The jamming Mosin can be fixed---you can substituted Finn Mosin parts for the magazine/trigger guard and interruptor without harm to the original parts if you ever want to reinstall them. Also you have to do a deep scrub as Soviet version of Cosmolene was some nasty stuff that can lead to malfunctions.
Bore sizes on Mosins vary a bit so you probably would get better accuracy on the rest if you fired cast bullets sized for the bore via a slug test.
For accurizing tips, go to Smith Sights and they have both the parts and the tips for getting the most of of your Mosin.
Posted by: whig at June 04, 2023 08:47 PM (wUSgb)
205
Lots of snow for June!
Posted by: Nevada Dave at June 04, 2023 08:47 PM (z0lMG)
206
Got yelled at by a range NCO who saw us popping away at broken TV sets w/ our M16s at the end of weapons qualification. I was told later that the range was under scrutiny for releases of lead from the berms, and that the range didn't need any additional headaches from yahoos like us adding to their problems.
Posted by: Ed L at June 04, 2023 08:42 PM (yRXSd)
The lead in the glass is pretty well sequestered. Not all NCO's are chem or physics graduates, I guess.
And you can sweep up the glass, too.
They throw old CRT's right into landfills.
Posted by: Ed L at June 04, 2023 08:42 PM (yRXSd)
The lead in the glass is pretty well sequestered. Not all NCO's are chem or physics graduates, I guess.
And you can sweep up the glass, too.
They throw old CRT's right into landfills.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 04, 2023 08:49 PM (I+uDt)
207
I have one too. Not a fan, but I suppose it will work without needing an air compressor...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
You could use a scuba tank!
(Yes, I bought an Air Venturi in .25cal and an air compressor that runs 12v or 120v.)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
You could use a scuba tank!
(Yes, I bought an Air Venturi in .25cal and an air compressor that runs 12v or 120v.)
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 04, 2023 08:49 PM (rCQZk)
208
174 ... " I'm loading moon clips for the 1917 for the MGC next Sunday. So some a'y'all better shoot it.
Posted by: screaming in digital
um, SiD, I did not understand a word of that except the shooting part."
Sharon ,The 1917 revolver can shoot 45 acp ammo. But because that round doesn't have a rim to catch on the chamber mouth, the rounds are inserted into a thin semicircular moon clip, usually 3 per clip, and the clip keeps the rounds in place. It was a way to use 45 acp ammo, common in WW I, with a 45 Colt revolver.
Posted by: screaming in digital
um, SiD, I did not understand a word of that except the shooting part."
Sharon ,The 1917 revolver can shoot 45 acp ammo. But because that round doesn't have a rim to catch on the chamber mouth, the rounds are inserted into a thin semicircular moon clip, usually 3 per clip, and the clip keeps the rounds in place. It was a way to use 45 acp ammo, common in WW I, with a 45 Colt revolver.
Posted by: JTB at June 04, 2023 08:49 PM (7EjX1)
209
Moon clips make you a crack shot, Sharon.
Posted by: andycanuck
So I looked it up. Now I at least know what they are and becasue it's SiD also assuming it is a revolver. However, how can it make me a crack shot?
Posted by: andycanuck
So I looked it up. Now I at least know what they are and becasue it's SiD also assuming it is a revolver. However, how can it make me a crack shot?
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 04, 2023 08:50 PM (t/2Uw)
210
um, SiD, I did not understand a word of that except the shooting part.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice)
---
It's a very cool revolver, hella fun to shoot, you'll like it. It's designed for rimmed cartridges, which .45 ACP is not. If you're using .45 ACP you need moon clips or the empty brass won't eject. I've got some .45 auto rim, which doesn't need the moon clip, but the moon clips are fast & easy to load & unload from the cylinder. I can't explain it all that well so I'll show you next week.
J transferred this one to me. He wanted me to carry it in Glacier for grizzly purposes. It's now my favorite that I still have - I gave up the .357 to B.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice)
---
It's a very cool revolver, hella fun to shoot, you'll like it. It's designed for rimmed cartridges, which .45 ACP is not. If you're using .45 ACP you need moon clips or the empty brass won't eject. I've got some .45 auto rim, which doesn't need the moon clip, but the moon clips are fast & easy to load & unload from the cylinder. I can't explain it all that well so I'll show you next week.
J transferred this one to me. He wanted me to carry it in Glacier for grizzly purposes. It's now my favorite that I still have - I gave up the .357 to B.
Posted by: screaming in digital at June 04, 2023 08:51 PM (aBJcM)
211
However, how can it make me a crack shot?
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 04, 2023 08:50 PM (t/2Uw)
-----------
Think "plumber."
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 04, 2023 08:50 PM (t/2Uw)
-----------
Think "plumber."
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(2YtOq) at June 04, 2023 08:52 PM (2YtOq)
212
thanks JTB. I did look it up and see a picture so I was able to understand your description. I'll be interested to try it. I'm alwasy game to try something new.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 04, 2023 08:52 PM (t/2Uw)
213
WW would not approve. As it is, with two CC's full of dogs and WCv2 in the mix, there is frequently no place for the people in the house to sit!
Posted by: Weasel
Hint: record door bell on your smart phone.
When you play it the dog squad will run to the door and you can steal their spots on the furniture.
(read this technique somewhere else.)
Posted by: Weasel
Hint: record door bell on your smart phone.
When you play it the dog squad will run to the door and you can steal their spots on the furniture.
(read this technique somewhere else.)
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 04, 2023 08:53 PM (rCQZk)
214
143 Damned gophers are clearly developing a covert intelligence network within the U.S., that tipped them to their impending danger.
Most likely treasonous culprits - the Democratic Underground!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 04, 2023 08:13 PM (HlyYF)
Well, these are Canuck gophers, so probably welfare recipients. The usual gopher around here is the Richardson's Ground Squirrel, as seen in the Gopher Hole Museum in Torrington, Alberta. Search that, and visit the museum online. It is a real hoot, believe me!
But what I have here, for some inexplicable reason, is Nine-Banded Ground Squirrels, which look sort of chipmunk-y.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 04, 2023 08:17 PM Mrs. E, her Mom, and I saw one of those squirrels messing around on the trail ahead of us and a dadgum ferret sneaked up on him. This was years ago on a trail near Ouray.
Most likely treasonous culprits - the Democratic Underground!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 04, 2023 08:13 PM (HlyYF)
Well, these are Canuck gophers, so probably welfare recipients. The usual gopher around here is the Richardson's Ground Squirrel, as seen in the Gopher Hole Museum in Torrington, Alberta. Search that, and visit the museum online. It is a real hoot, believe me!
But what I have here, for some inexplicable reason, is Nine-Banded Ground Squirrels, which look sort of chipmunk-y.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 04, 2023 08:17 PM Mrs. E, her Mom, and I saw one of those squirrels messing around on the trail ahead of us and a dadgum ferret sneaked up on him. This was years ago on a trail near Ouray.
Posted by: Eromero at June 04, 2023 08:54 PM (Uv0D2)
Posted by: Notorious BFD at June 04, 2023 08:54 PM (Xrfse)
216
I wonder if this country could field a military like we had in WW II ever again?
Posted by: Eromero at June 04, 2023 07:51 PM
Nope, that is never going to happen again. We as a country will never be that motivated/united again.
We sort of saw it briefly after 9/11 but that was a flash in the pan and the anti-war protests started within months after we invaded Afghanistan.
Sadly, those days are over for the United States.
Posted by: Eromero at June 04, 2023 07:51 PM
Nope, that is never going to happen again. We as a country will never be that motivated/united again.
We sort of saw it briefly after 9/11 but that was a flash in the pan and the anti-war protests started within months after we invaded Afghanistan.
Sadly, those days are over for the United States.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 04, 2023 08:54 PM (ncXxy)
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 04, 2023 08:55 PM (Vwz3I)
218
What I love about being part of this community is notonly the depth of information but the fact that I actually get to try the stuff out. There is no way that I would have gotten this experience in any other group. I just wish that I had started when I was like 25 instead of 29.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 04, 2023 08:56 PM (t/2Uw)
219
Hint: record door bell on your smart phone.
When you play it the dog squad will run to the door and you can steal their spots on the furniture.
(read this technique somewhere else.)
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 04, 2023 08:53 PM
Next week's report from the Weasel household: "The cat has been stealing my cell phone and punking the dogs."
When you play it the dog squad will run to the door and you can steal their spots on the furniture.
(read this technique somewhere else.)
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 04, 2023 08:53 PM
Next week's report from the Weasel household: "The cat has been stealing my cell phone and punking the dogs."
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 04, 2023 08:57 PM (HlyYF)
220
Next week's report from the Weasel household: "The cat has been stealing my cell phone and punking the dogs."
Posted by: Pillage Idiot
Weasel puts that video on his site and he'll make bank.
Next week's report from the Weasel household: "The cat has been stealing my cell phone and punking the dogs."
Posted by: Pillage Idiot
Weasel puts that video on his site and he'll make bank.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 04, 2023 08:58 PM (rCQZk)
221
Also you have to do a deep scrub as Soviet version of Cosmolene was some nasty stuff that can lead to malfunctions.
Posted by: whig at June 04, 2023 08:47 PM (wUSgb)
I couldn't believe that crap. Took two weekends to get them clean.
I'll probably never do anything with them. I have better stuff to burn 7.62R through.
I went through a Soviet arms acquisition phase in the late 90's. I have a lot of cool shit from the cold war era. One of my favorites is my Russian SKS. I love that thing. It's pristine and the wood is hypnotic to look at. Flawless function.
Posted by: whig at June 04, 2023 08:47 PM (wUSgb)
I couldn't believe that crap. Took two weekends to get them clean.
I'll probably never do anything with them. I have better stuff to burn 7.62R through.
I went through a Soviet arms acquisition phase in the late 90's. I have a lot of cool shit from the cold war era. One of my favorites is my Russian SKS. I love that thing. It's pristine and the wood is hypnotic to look at. Flawless function.
Posted by: Reforger at June 04, 2023 08:59 PM (B705c)
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 04, 2023 08:59 PM (t/2Uw)
223
What whig just said (re Mosins) - as always.
But also - jamming is odd and should not happen.
Heat. Heat. All versions of cosmo liquefy at a fairly low "hot" temp. When I received my Mosins I put all metal parts save the barrel/receiver in boiling water, then mineral spirits, overnight. Cosmo no more. Would stand the receiver in boiling water, then pour same down bore, followed by lots of brushing with mineral spirits.
Accuracy - ammo, crown. All of mine have perfectly acceptable accuracy, with Soviet surplus ammo - meaning exactly the accuracy they were built for.
But also - jamming is odd and should not happen.
Heat. Heat. All versions of cosmo liquefy at a fairly low "hot" temp. When I received my Mosins I put all metal parts save the barrel/receiver in boiling water, then mineral spirits, overnight. Cosmo no more. Would stand the receiver in boiling water, then pour same down bore, followed by lots of brushing with mineral spirits.
Accuracy - ammo, crown. All of mine have perfectly acceptable accuracy, with Soviet surplus ammo - meaning exactly the accuracy they were built for.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 04, 2023 09:00 PM (OTzUX)
224
Nice to be back into a Gun Thread after missing the previous two due to work. What's the old W.C. Fields quote?
"...ahhh yasss... work is the curse of the drinking claasss"
I digress.
Another epic Weasel Gun Thread, and this one was damn well worth the wait.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
"...ahhh yasss... work is the curse of the drinking claasss"
I digress.
Another epic Weasel Gun Thread, and this one was damn well worth the wait.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at June 04, 2023 09:00 PM (e6UQI)
225
Thank you for accepting my cheekiness.
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 04, 2023 09:01 PM (Vwz3I)
226
OT but historical: Looks like John Kerry got something else wrong.
I'm watching a documentary on Genghis Khan and on the monument to him in Mongolia, they've used the Western spelling CHINGGIS KHAAN.
I'm watching a documentary on Genghis Khan and on the monument to him in Mongolia, they've used the Western spelling CHINGGIS KHAAN.
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 04, 2023 09:04 PM (Vwz3I)
227
And what whig said re Smith sights, if you want better sights. And for very basic/cheap accurizing, a few guys sell sets of shims. I tried the field-expedient Great Patriotic War approach, a "salka", oil-soaked felt or cloth wrapped around barrel near outer barrel band. Probably had cloth that was too thick. Might try a set of the shims. But my Mosins do what they're asked (hit steel plates out to 200 yds) just fine when I do my part.
Usually use the Yugo surplus 182g ammo for that, probably higher quality than my usual spam-can diet.
Usually use the Yugo surplus 182g ammo for that, probably higher quality than my usual spam-can diet.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 04, 2023 09:04 PM (OTzUX)
228
An aside:
Has there ever been a first lady who has worse taste in clothes than Jill Biden?
Now back to your regularly scheduled programming.
Has there ever been a first lady who has worse taste in clothes than Jill Biden?
Now back to your regularly scheduled programming.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 04, 2023 09:05 PM (t/2Uw)
229
Big Mike?
Posted by: Admirale's Mate at June 04, 2023 09:06 PM (V1lUW)
230
Of the potential ATF approved 40M legally sold and purchased braced pistols that were deemed SBRs and now require stamps, paperwork, etc., 255K applications for compliance were submitted.
Posted by: Have you figured out that the gay flag is a p3d0 flag? at June 04, 2023 08:41 PM (b4nR4)
The courts have issued injunctive relief to all of the plaintiffs in the three lawsuits, including FPC, SAF, GOA, and the ENTIRE State of Texas.
Posted by: Have you figured out that the gay flag is a p3d0 flag? at June 04, 2023 08:41 PM (b4nR4)
The courts have issued injunctive relief to all of the plaintiffs in the three lawsuits, including FPC, SAF, GOA, and the ENTIRE State of Texas.
Posted by: That Deplorable SOB Van Owen at June 04, 2023 09:09 PM (PWe8a)
231
Has there ever been a first lady who has worse taste in clothes than Jill Biden?
Now back to your regularly scheduled programming.
Posted by: sharon
----
Michelle
Now back to your regularly scheduled programming.
Posted by: sharon
----
Michelle
Posted by: lin-duh at June 04, 2023 09:10 PM (UUBmN)
Posted by: Weasel at June 04, 2023 09:11 PM (RG6z4)
Posted by: Weasel at June 04, 2023 09:11 PM (RG6z4)
234
Euuww ... Memories of Michelle!
Posted by: SecondCityLurker at June 04, 2023 09:12 PM (MEbkQ)
235
I joined FPC this week. it cost $30 to become a member and be covered by the injunction.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 04, 2023 09:12 PM (t/2Uw)
236
But also - jamming is odd and should not happen.
Posted by: rhomboid
-------
Jamming Mosins were common enough that the industrious Finns figured out a way to keep Mosins from jamming which was from out of spec magazines/trigger guard issues. They did a mod on them and as a result no more jams. Think they have punch marks on the magazine sides to denote alteration.
The interruptor is also an issue in Mosin jams as depending on the wear or being out of spec, it can cause jamming. The interruptor is there to prevent rimlock (Enfields have no interruptor and rely on properly loading ammo clips and then charging the rifle to avoid it)
Posted by: rhomboid
-------
Jamming Mosins were common enough that the industrious Finns figured out a way to keep Mosins from jamming which was from out of spec magazines/trigger guard issues. They did a mod on them and as a result no more jams. Think they have punch marks on the magazine sides to denote alteration.
The interruptor is also an issue in Mosin jams as depending on the wear or being out of spec, it can cause jamming. The interruptor is there to prevent rimlock (Enfields have no interruptor and rely on properly loading ammo clips and then charging the rifle to avoid it)
Posted by: whig at June 04, 2023 09:13 PM (wUSgb)
237
However, how can it make me a crack shot?
The Paolo has performed, how you say, many crack shots.
The Paolo has performed, how you say, many crack shots.
Posted by: The Paolo at June 04, 2023 09:13 PM (rH414)
Posted by: Weasel at June 04, 2023 09:17 PM (RG6z4)
239
Has there ever been a first lady who has worse taste in clothes than Jill Biden?
Now back to your regularly scheduled programming.
Posted by: sharon
----
Michelle
Posted by: lin-duh
Point of order! Assuming facts not in evidence (Michelle is a lady).
Now back to your regularly scheduled programming.
Posted by: sharon
----
Michelle
Posted by: lin-duh
Point of order! Assuming facts not in evidence (Michelle is a lady).
Posted by: Tonypete at June 04, 2023 09:17 PM (rH414)
240
Toronto Police Operations @TPSOperations · 2h
SOUND OF GUNSHOTS: (UPDATE)
Lawrence Ave E & Leslie St
- confirmed discharged firearm
- shell casings have been located
- no reported injuries
- road closure at w/b Lawrence Ave E @ Tremont Cres
Mr. Random Liberal @Mr_R_Lib · 3h
Don't believe these lies, your Liberal government banned handguns.
Frédéric Meunier @meunierfredz · 1h
@Polysesouvient, citizens want to understand why there are still guns on our streets? You've been making laws for over 30 years. Why this result?
You have failed.
http://ScrapC21.ca
SOUND OF GUNSHOTS: (UPDATE)
Lawrence Ave E & Leslie St
- confirmed discharged firearm
- shell casings have been located
- no reported injuries
- road closure at w/b Lawrence Ave E @ Tremont Cres
Mr. Random Liberal @Mr_R_Lib · 3h
Don't believe these lies, your Liberal government banned handguns.
Frédéric Meunier @meunierfredz · 1h
@Polysesouvient, citizens want to understand why there are still guns on our streets? You've been making laws for over 30 years. Why this result?
You have failed.
http://ScrapC21.ca
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 04, 2023 09:17 PM (Vwz3I)
241
I joined FPC this week. it cost $30 to become a member and be covered by the injunction.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 04, 2023 09:12 PM (t/2Uw)
If the NRA had bothered to join any of the lawsuits, all of its members would have been covered by the injunction.
They are about as useless as the teats on one of Ben Had's boars.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 04, 2023 09:12 PM (t/2Uw)
If the NRA had bothered to join any of the lawsuits, all of its members would have been covered by the injunction.
They are about as useless as the teats on one of Ben Had's boars.
Posted by: That Deplorable SOB Van Owen at June 04, 2023 09:18 PM (PWe8a)
242
Michelle never wore tablecloths, shower curtains, or couch covers. She is just unattractive but at least wore designer clothes. Jill wears completely inappropriate clothes for her age and figure and look like they came from a rummage sale.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 04, 2023 09:19 PM (t/2Uw)
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 04, 2023 09:19 PM (HlyYF)
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 04, 2023 09:20 PM (t/2Uw)
245
Posted by: That Deplorable SOB Van Owen at June 04, 2023 09:18 PM (PWe8a
But they endorse 2nd amendment Democrats to help us. /s
But they endorse 2nd amendment Democrats to help us. /s
Posted by: polynikes at June 04, 2023 09:21 PM (MNhXM)
246
What caliber would be adequate for hunting Jotnar?
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 04, 2023 09:22 PM (ncXxy)
247
Posted by: Weasel at June 04, 2023 08:39 PM (k10B1)
Thanks. I did that before you posted it, and voila! there it was. I plan on being there.
Thanks. I did that before you posted it, and voila! there it was. I plan on being there.
Posted by: GWB at June 04, 2023 09:24 PM (vQrdQ)
Posted by: Weasel at June 04, 2023 09:26 PM (RG6z4)
249
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 04, 2023 09:20 PM (t/2Uw)
----
OK! Don't forget there is a thing on Friday afternoon/evening if you can make it. Details on the signup page.
----
OK! Don't forget there is a thing on Friday afternoon/evening if you can make it. Details on the signup page.
Posted by: Weasel at June 04, 2023 09:27 PM (RG6z4)
250
Thanks for hosting, Weasel!
Posted by: Ed L at June 04, 2023 09:27 PM (yRXSd)
Posted by: Weasel at June 04, 2023 09:28 PM (RG6z4)
Posted by: Weasel at June 04, 2023 09:29 PM (RG6z4)
253
Thanks Weasel and Horde. Maybe I'll see some of y'all next weekend.
Posted by: screaming in digital at June 04, 2023 09:29 PM (aBJcM)
254
Thanks for the thread Weasel.
Posted by: whig at June 04, 2023 09:31 PM (wUSgb)
255
rhomboid at June 04, 2023 09:00 PM (OTzUX)
The Mosin Nagants manufactured as sniper rifles were made to higher tolerances than the normal rifle. However, Pavlichenko writes that when she finally got hold of a sniper rifle, She had to strip the rifle down and work on the components: "Removed the wood along the whole length of the handguard groove, so the woodwork no longer touched the barrel, filed down the tip of the gunstock so that the barrel fitted snugly, bedded the barrel properly in the fore-end, and inserted padding between the receiver and the magazine. To ensure that the various parts of the bolt mechanism worked properly, it was recommended that they were carefully worked over with a small needle file."
The Mosin Nagants manufactured as sniper rifles were made to higher tolerances than the normal rifle. However, Pavlichenko writes that when she finally got hold of a sniper rifle, She had to strip the rifle down and work on the components: "Removed the wood along the whole length of the handguard groove, so the woodwork no longer touched the barrel, filed down the tip of the gunstock so that the barrel fitted snugly, bedded the barrel properly in the fore-end, and inserted padding between the receiver and the magazine. To ensure that the various parts of the bolt mechanism worked properly, it was recommended that they were carefully worked over with a small needle file."
Posted by: Davod at June 04, 2023 09:32 PM (fGRf+)
Posted by: Weasel at June 04, 2023 09:32 PM (RG6z4)
257
If the NRA had bothered to join any of the lawsuits, all of its members would have been covered by the injunction.
-
You noticed that too, eh?
-
You noticed that too, eh?
Posted by: Every child has a normal childhood, which is the point of what we're seeing at June 04, 2023 09:33 PM (Uyf5K)
258
Thanks as always, Weasel. Looking forward to meeting a lot of you next Saturday!
Posted by: That Deplorable SOB Van Owen at June 04, 2023 09:33 PM (PWe8a)
259
Posted by: whig at June 04, 2023 09:31 PM (wUSgb)
----
You bet, whig. Hope things are good with you!
----
You bet, whig. Hope things are good with you!
Posted by: Weasel at June 04, 2023 09:33 PM (RG6z4)
260
also thanks as always, Weasel.
Posted by: Join Us in Celebrating Groomer Awareness Month! at June 04, 2023 09:34 PM (Uyf5K)
261
Posted by: That Deplorable SOB Van Owen at June 04, 2023 09:33 PM (PWe8a)
----
My pleasure and same here!
----
My pleasure and same here!
Posted by: Weasel at June 04, 2023 09:35 PM (RG6z4)
262
Michelle never wore tablecloths, shower curtains, or couch covers. She is just unattractive but at least wore designer clothes. Jill wears completely inappropriate clothes for her age and figure and look like they came from a rummage sale.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 04, 2023 09:19 PM (t/2Uw)
Omar The Tentmaker was never Hot Coocher, but the stuff he cut fit well.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 04, 2023 09:19 PM (t/2Uw)
Omar The Tentmaker was never Hot Coocher, but the stuff he cut fit well.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 04, 2023 09:35 PM (8U3ba)
263
Posted by: Join Us in Celebrating Groomer Awareness Month! at June 04, 2023 09:34 PM (Uyf5K)
----
Thank you and welcome to the Gun Thread!
----
Thank you and welcome to the Gun Thread!
Posted by: Weasel at June 04, 2023 09:36 PM (RG6z4)
264
I enjoyed the gub thread as always, Weasel. Thanks for it!
Posted by: 496 at June 04, 2023 09:39 PM (zVSSz)
265
You bet, whig. Hope things are good with you!
Posted by: Weasel
--------
Back surgery looming. Still recovering from elbow and hand surgery. Thx for asking.
Posted by: Weasel
--------
Back surgery looming. Still recovering from elbow and hand surgery. Thx for asking.
Posted by: whig at June 04, 2023 09:39 PM (wUSgb)
Posted by: Weasel at June 04, 2023 09:40 PM (RG6z4)
Posted by: Weasel at June 04, 2023 09:41 PM (RG6z4)
268
"242 Michelle never wore tablecloths, shower curtains, or couch covers."
Reminds of Ace's recent post that during the Depression, flour distributors sold the flour in sacks with patterns on them so they could be made into clothing.
Reminds of Ace's recent post that during the Depression, flour distributors sold the flour in sacks with patterns on them so they could be made into clothing.
Posted by: Davod at June 04, 2023 09:41 PM (fGRf+)
269
I went through a Soviet arms acquisition phase in the late 90's.
Posted by: Reforger at June 04, 2023 08:59 PM (B705c)
Trade material in the post-burning times. Figure out how many ounces of silver (or brass or lead) each one is worth beforehand so you can pre-paint the signs.
Posted by: Reforger at June 04, 2023 08:59 PM (B705c)
Trade material in the post-burning times. Figure out how many ounces of silver (or brass or lead) each one is worth beforehand so you can pre-paint the signs.
Posted by: GWB at June 04, 2023 09:42 PM (vQrdQ)
270
Yeah, I keep a clean pair of socks on here lately, but I guess I should figure out a way to incorporate my name when I have enough room.
Posted by: Join Moron Robbie in Celebrating Groomer Awareness Month! at June 04, 2023 09:44 PM (Uyf5K)
271
Back surgery looming. Still recovering from elbow and hand surgery. Thx for asking.
Posted by: whig at June 04, 2023 09:39 PM
Dang, that is a rough deal, whig!
I hope your wife took out the extended warranty so all of that will be replaced back to OEM standards!
Good luck on the back surgery.
Posted by: whig at June 04, 2023 09:39 PM
Dang, that is a rough deal, whig!
I hope your wife took out the extended warranty so all of that will be replaced back to OEM standards!
Good luck on the back surgery.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 04, 2023 09:46 PM (HlyYF)
272
Range bag is ready for next week. It better be a lot lighter when I schlep it back home.
Just have to remember not to bring it on the work trip this week. That would liven up the librarian meetings!
Just have to remember not to bring it on the work trip this week. That would liven up the librarian meetings!
Posted by: screaming in digital at June 04, 2023 09:46 PM (aBJcM)
273
ONT is up.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 04, 2023 09:47 PM (8U3ba)
274
No comment
Posted by: Rex B at June 04, 2023 09:48 PM (nhCgi)
275
Trade material in the post-burning times. Figure out how many ounces of silver (or brass or lead) each one is worth beforehand so you can pre-paint the signs.
Posted by: GWB at June 04, 2023 09:42 PM (vQrdQ)
I am well vested in the Heavy Metal Market...
Posted by: GWB at June 04, 2023 09:42 PM (vQrdQ)
I am well vested in the Heavy Metal Market...
Posted by: Reforger at June 04, 2023 09:50 PM (B705c)
276
ONT is up.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 04, 2023 09:47 PM (8U3ba)
---
Why yes, yes it is!
Have a great week and see you next Sunday with a NoVAMoMe after-action report!!
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 04, 2023 09:47 PM (8U3ba)
---
Why yes, yes it is!
Have a great week and see you next Sunday with a NoVAMoMe after-action report!!
Posted by: Weasel at June 04, 2023 09:50 PM (RG6z4)
277
Just have to remember not to bring it on the work trip this week. That would liven up the librarian meetings!
Posted by: screaming in digital at June 04, 2023 09:46 PM (aBJcM)
-------
You're going to need a suppressor around that group!
Posted by: screaming in digital at June 04, 2023 09:46 PM (aBJcM)
-------
You're going to need a suppressor around that group!
Posted by: 496 at June 04, 2023 09:51 PM (RqAJh)
Processing 0.03, elapsed 0.0361 seconds.
15 queries taking 0.014 seconds, 286 records returned.
Page size 165 kb.
Powered by Minx 0.8 beta.
MuNuvians
MeeNuvians
Polls! Polls! Polls!
Real Clear Politics
Gallup
Frequently Asked Questions
The (Almost) Complete Paul Anka Integrity Kick
Primary Document: The Audio
Paul Anka Haiku Contest Announcement
Integrity SAT's: Entrance Exam for Paul Anka's Band
AllahPundit's Paul Anka 45's Collection
AnkaPundit: Paul Anka Takes Over the Site for a Weekend (Continues through to Monday's postings)
George Bush Slices Don Rumsfeld Like an F*ckin' Hammer
Paul Anka Haiku Contest Announcement
Integrity SAT's: Entrance Exam for Paul Anka's Band
AllahPundit's Paul Anka 45's Collection
AnkaPundit: Paul Anka Takes Over the Site for a Weekend (Continues through to Monday's postings)
George Bush Slices Don Rumsfeld Like an F*ckin' Hammer
Top Top Tens
Democratic Forays into Erotica
New Shows On Gore's DNC/MTV Network
Nicknames for Potatoes, By People Who Really Hate Potatoes
Star Wars Euphemisms for Self-Abuse
Signs You're at an Iraqi "Wedding Party"
Signs Your Clown Has Gone Bad
Signs That You, Geroge Michael, Should Probably Just Give It Up
Signs of Hip-Hop Influence on John Kerry
NYT Headlines Spinning Bush's Jobs Boom
Things People Are More Likely to Say Than "Did You Hear What Al Franken Said Yesterday?"
Signs that Paul Krugman Has Lost His Frickin' Mind
All-Time Best NBA Players, According to Senator Robert Byrd
Other Bad Things About the Jews, According to the Koran
Signs That David Letterman Just Doesn't Care Anymore
Examples of Bob Kerrey's Insufferable Racial Jackassery
Signs Andy Rooney Is Going Senile
Other Judgments Dick Clarke Made About Condi Rice Based on Her Appearance
Collective Names for Groups of People
John Kerry's Other Vietnam Super-Pets
Cool Things About the XM8 Assault Rifle
Media-Approved Facts About the Democrat Spy
Changes to Make Christianity More "Inclusive"
Secret John Kerry Senatorial Accomplishments
John Edwards Campaign Excuses
John Kerry Pick-Up Lines
Changes Liberal Senator George Michell Will Make at Disney
Torments in Dog-Hell
Greatest Hitjobs
The Ace of Spades HQ Sex-for-Money Skankathon
A D&D Guide to the Democratic Candidates
Margaret Cho: Just Not Funny
More Margaret Cho Abuse
Margaret Cho: Still Not Funny
Iraqi Prisoner Claims He Was Raped... By Woman
Wonkette Announces "Morning Zoo" Format
John Kerry's "Plan" Causes Surrender of Moqtada al-Sadr's Militia
World Muslim Leaders Apologize for Nick Berg's Beheading
Michael Moore Goes on Lunchtime Manhattan Death-Spree
Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears
Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed"
Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility
Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips
They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
News/Chat