Guns & Marijuana: States Rights vs. The Federal Leviathan

Isn't this delicious! An overbearing, overreaching, authoritarian federal government finally notices that marijuana...one of the left's sacraments...is still a Schedule 1 Controlled Substance. And I can't think of a better example of cognitive dissonance for both the feds AND the stoners!

Here is the text of question 21-G on form 4473, the federal form that everyone purchasing a weapon through a federal firearms license holder must complete.

Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance? Warning: The use or possession of marijuana remains unlawful under Federal law regardless of whether it has been legalized or decriminalized for medicinal or recreational purposes in the state where you reside.

That's pretty clear. Of course Bank of America will immediately cross-reference all marijuana purchases with gun purchases in in Minnesota, and turn over their findings to the ATF...right?

ATF: Until recreational cannabis is federally legalized, pot users cannot own guns

The federal agency that regulates the firearms industry sent an advisory on Tuesday warning that Minnesotans who use marijuana cannot legally own firearms, despite a new state law legalizing recreational use.
Marijuana for adults is now legal in 23 states and even more have medical cannabis programs. But it's still a Schedule I controlled substance under federal law on par with LSD and heroin.
The St. Paul office of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives noted that distinction. It means people who smoke weed or take marijuana edibles are "still federally defined as an 'unlawful user' of a controlled substance," and therefore are "prohibited from shipping, transporting, receiving, or possessing firearms or ammunition," the agency said in its release Tuesday.

Part of me hopes that they crack down aggressively and start arresting, prosecuting, and jailing people for these clear violations of federal law. I think it's a felony that carries a five year sentence. I am assuming that more people on the left use marijuana (although that may be wildly inaccurate if we measure it by weight of marijuana consumed...thanks Garrett and JackStraw!). So that might be a good thing...disarming and jailing Antifa-curious dopers!

But...part of me (most of me) is disgusted that there is even a form 4473, an ATF, and any restrictions on weapons purchases in the United States, except perhaps for violent felons. And I am comfortable discussing even that!

This conundrum also calls into question the supremacy of the federal government, its involvement in drug regulation, which the last time I checked wasn't mentioned in the U.S. Constitution as one of its powers.

The delightfully amusing reality is that the states are legalizing marijuana, and there isn't much the feds can do about it. My personal stance is that it is a bad idea...I think marijuana has corrosive effects on society, has been mostly ignored by scientific research from that point of view, and I believe it will be shown to be much less benign in the coming years.

But any time a state can stick its thumb in the federal eye is just A-OK with me.

Posted by: CBD at 12:00 PM

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1 Early gun thread

Posted by: Skip at June 04, 2023 12:00 PM (xhxe8)

2 Here

Posted by: Ciampino -- Books, Books, Nothing But Books at June 04, 2023 12:00 PM (qfLjt)

3 first.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 04, 2023 12:00 PM (ncXxy)

4 Top 10?

Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at June 04, 2023 12:02 PM (Rpdcm)

5 And the Biden WH is poised to argue on our side, to protect Hunter from prosecution of course.

Posted by: Ignoramus at June 04, 2023 12:03 PM (RqMSv)

6 Yo

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 04, 2023 12:04 PM (Q4IgG)

7 If they answer "yes"...how does the sale go through?

Posted by: BignJames at June 04, 2023 12:04 PM (AwYPR)

8 I'm not well versed with handguns. I'm reading and I come across this:
In his right hand he held what looked like a nine-millimeter handgun. Semiautomatic, maybe a Colt. At least seven rounds, maybe twice that. Not cocked.

Snyder started to thumb back the hammer.

I'll assume by 'not cocked' it means the slider is forward? Does one cock a semiauto?

Is there a hammer on any sort of semiauto?

Posted by: Ciampino - Books, bandoliers and bullets at June 04, 2023 12:06 PM (qfLjt)

9 What law where Leftists/ Marxists be concerned applies to them?

Posted by: Skip at June 04, 2023 12:07 PM (xhxe8)

10 If they answer "yes"...how does the sale go through?

Posted by: BignJames at June 04, 2023 12:04 PM (AwYPR)

It doesn't. It disqualifies the user from purchasing the firearm.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 04, 2023 12:07 PM (ZCCyW)

11 "But...part of me (most of me) is disgusted that there is even a form 4473, an ATF, and any restrictions on weapons purchases in the United States, except perhaps for violent felons. And I am comfortable discussing even that!"

What is exciting is they can now dig into that trove of old ones they were supposed to have destroyed and claimed to never have kept on file and use that

Posted by: Kindltot at June 04, 2023 12:08 PM (xhaym)

12 It's pretty simple actually, until congress changes the law Marijuana is classified as a schedule I drug and it's use is against the law no matter what the state does or says. States accept federal $$$$ for law enforcement so they are bound by the law the fed makes up. If you take the King's shilling you gots to do what the King says.

I don't agree with it but that's the way it is.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 04, 2023 12:08 PM (ncXxy)

13 Is there a hammer on any sort of semiauto?

Posted by: Ciampino - Books, bandoliers and bullets at June 04, 2023 12:06 PM (qfLjt)

Yes, my preferred models...don't cars for striker fired.

Posted by: BignJames at June 04, 2023 12:08 PM (AwYPR)

14 A big problem for keeping marijuana criminalized is is that every argument in favor of banning it also applies to alcohol, and every argument in favor of keeping alcohol legal also is an argument for legalizing marijuana. There's no intellectually honest way to treat the two differently.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 04, 2023 12:08 PM (S6gqv)

15 Part of me hopes that they crack down aggressively and start arresting, prosecuting, and jailing people for these clear violations of federal law. I think it's a felony that carries a five year sentence.
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We'll get much noise on how it disproportionately affects Blacks.

Posted by: Ciampino -- Books, bandoliers and bullets at June 04, 2023 12:09 PM (qfLjt)

16 Ciampino, if you have a round chambered you can just cock the hammer, if it has an external hammer or hammer controlled striker. No need to rack the slide.

It is mildly humorous to see a newbie who trained on a revolver rack the slide back after every shot using a 1911 style pistol for the first time and wonder why the magazine only had 4 shots

Posted by: Kindltot at June 04, 2023 12:10 PM (xhaym)

17 I think marijuana has corrosive effects on society, has been mostly ignored by scientific research from that point of view, and I believe it will be shown to be much less benign in the coming years.

Posted by: CBD at 12:00 PM

This is where I struggle with all this. Weed is harmful. It just is. But so are tater chips and spending all day on twitter/farcebook.

I think there has been an effort NOT to study long term effects of cannabis, and the studies that have been done on its harmful effects, most people just ignore, or refuse to believe.

So the freedom loving part of me says, yeah, just let people do their own thing, but the realization that EVERYONE pays for others' bad choices, because we're NOT a free society, means I have to deal with the consequences. And if you're going to make me pay for your stupid choices, there should be consequences for you too, and throwing your arse in jail, or not letting you own a firearm, or vote, as much as I might not like it in principle, might be our only option.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 04, 2023 12:10 PM (81i8c)

18 We'll get much noise on how it disproportionately affects Blacks.
Posted by: Ciampino -- Books, bandoliers and bullets at June 04, 2023 12:09 PM (qfLjt

Absolutely

Posted by: MAC V SOG at June 04, 2023 12:10 PM (P4Pk9)

19 Is there a hammer on any sort of semiauto?

Posted by: Ciampino - Books, bandoliers and bullets at June 04, 2023 12:06 PM (qfLjt)

Yes. The classic single action Colt 1911 has an external hammer, but carrying it uncocked simply isn't done.

There are also double action semi-autos that can be fired from an uncocked or cocked position. The difference is the effort needed to pull the trigger.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 04, 2023 12:11 PM (ZCCyW)

20 This is what we refer to as a conundrum.

con-nun-drum

noun
1. A riddle in which a fanciful question is answered by a pun.
2. A paradoxical, insoluble, or difficult problem; a dilemma.
3.A conceit; a device; a hoax.

Posted by: Muldoon at June 04, 2023 12:11 PM (991eG)

21 I might have mentioned before that I was a transplant coordinator at the VA. Vets who smoked pot were adamant that it was harmless; but, the VA will not transplant anyone who uses pot.
It turns out that there are documented cases of transplanted patients dying due to fungal infections caused by fungus on their pot.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 04, 2023 12:11 PM (PqQAX)

22 I am of an age where I have performed an observational longitudinal study of the effects of the massive increase in THC content in marijuana.

The dumbass 8th graders that tried to get as baked as possible in the 70s were nowhere near as impaired as people today that take a few hits off of the stuff that is 500% greater in THC.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 04, 2023 12:11 PM (HlyYF)

23 Still reading and I come across this:
Shot once in the back of the head with a .22 slug, probably a Magnum load, the way it churned around inside his skull."

What exactly is a Magnum load and is there one for a .22 ?

Posted by: Ciampino --- Books, bandoliers and bullets at June 04, 2023 12:13 PM (qfLjt)

24 A riddle in which a fanciful question is answered by a pun.

*********

Q: What is the new definition of a gun crime?

A: When someone who shoots up heroin obtains a gun that he uses to shoot up the heroine.

Posted by: Muldoon at June 04, 2023 12:13 PM (991eG)

25 More overreach by the federales using every means possible to shut down the 2nd amendment.

I am happy blue states are legalizing weed. Let the losers smoke it up which results in them living in mom’s basement, underachieving and making life miserable for their enablers.

Now do social security, EBT cards, student loans and the other fed scams. You use weed, no federal benefits of any kind. Oh and no voting for you potheads either in fed elections.

A Man Can Dream.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 04, 2023 12:14 PM (R/m4+)

26 A big problem for keeping marijuana criminalized is is that every argument in favor of banning it also applies to alcohol, and every argument in favor of keeping alcohol legal also is an argument for legalizing marijuana. There's no intellectually honest way to treat the two differently.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 04, 2023 12:08 PM (S6gqv)

Have an alcohol purchase database, you're only allowed to buy so much at a time. Once you've reached your limit, you get no more for at least 24 hours.

And I know what you're thinking, I'll just buy Monday through Friday, and drink it all on Saturday and Sunday. Oh, but we'll have a weekly limit too. Three per day. Or 21 per week. Good luck becoming an alcoholic on that!

Posted by: BurtTC at June 04, 2023 12:15 PM (81i8c)

27 There may very well be more stoners on the left, but any application of law will unequally be used on the right.

So, while it's apparently illegal to own a firearm in state "X" if one is/was a pot user I think only those identified as being right of center will feel the heat.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 04, 2023 12:16 PM (Q4IgG)

28 so the question is, does this thread devolve to a gun thread or a booze thread

Posted by: DB - at June 04, 2023 12:16 PM (geLO8)

29 What if somebody self-identifies as a "lawful user of" marijuana?

Doesn't this same stretch and manipulation of logic and language currently work for people with non-binary genders?

Why not weed?

Posted by: Dr. Bone at June 04, 2023 12:17 PM (KVGVf)

30 .22 magnums are extra long.

.22 cartridges index (are supported in the chamber) by the rim, and in a long chamber you can fire various lengths from BB-Caps, shorts, regular and magnums, only limited by the ability to feed and put the whole cartridge in the chamber to fire.

This is different from a rimless like a 9mm or a .308 NATO that indexes on the neck or the shoulder and are much more sensitive for the dimensions of the cartridge.

.22 rimfire was developed in the 1860's and demands less tolerance

Posted by: Kindltot at June 04, 2023 12:17 PM (xhaym)

31 24 A riddle in which a fanciful question is answered by a pun.

*********

Q: What is the new definition of a gun crime?

A: When someone who shoots up heroin obtains a gun that he uses to shoot up the heroine.

Posted by: Muldoon at June 04, 2023 12:13 PM (991eG)
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Muldoon, are you implying gender and are you misgendering one who bleeds?

Posted by: Ciampino - Books, bandoliers, bombs and bullets at June 04, 2023 12:17 PM (qfLjt)

32 Deep down, I don't think people really care about the state vs federal debate. They just want to go with whichever one is supporting their team at the moment.

If say the pro-life side could pass a law outlawing abortion on the federal level in all 50 states (overriding all state laws) they would do the mental gymnastics necessary to support it.

Posted by: Blago at June 04, 2023 12:17 PM (cOFom)

33 In his right hand he held what looked like a nine-millimeter handgun. Semiautomatic, maybe a Colt. At least seven rounds, maybe twice that. Not cocked.

Snyder started to thumb back the hammer.
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So much wrong in those three lines.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at June 04, 2023 12:18 PM (17s+e)

34 I agree with Burt at 17.

I am a liberal (classical), but this pot now is very damaging. My teen kids have multiple friends that had to go to the hospital with severe paranoid outbreaks (bordering on psychosis) due to only smoking marijuana or too many edibles.

None of my stupid stoner friends in high school or college EVER had to do that.

I usually hold very strong political opinions on what is right and what is wrong. I have no idea what is the proper course for U.S. society as a believer in our constitutional republic.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 04, 2023 12:19 PM (HlyYF)

35 On a side note, isn't it hilarious the same people that want to outlaw vaping tobacco for health reasons demand marijuana be legalized?

Posted by: Blago at June 04, 2023 12:19 PM (cOFom)

36 I am happy blue states are legalizing weed. Let the losers smoke it up which results in them living in mom’s basement, underachieving and making life miserable for their enablers.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 04, 2023 12:14 PM (R/m4+)

I see Texas just decriminalized cannabis, but didn't legalize it.

I still don't know how my ex survives in such an environment.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 04, 2023 12:19 PM (81i8c)

37 Still in cellphone Hell. After 4 attempts, finally got my number ported over to my new carrier. Tried yesterday to set up my voicemail; audio was garbled. Gave up, put the Pinephone on charge, and went on with my day. Took the fully-charged phone off the charger this morning, tried to call voicemail to set it up, and no network. Rebooted. No network. Took the SIM out of the Pinephone, put it in my old flip phone: no network. Grrrr.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 04, 2023 12:20 PM (nUEj1)

38
Weed is harmful. It just is. But so are tater chips

I got the fever for the flavor of a Pringles.

https://youtu.be/cNh0PHFAaQQ

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 04, 2023 12:21 PM (63Dwl)

39 On a side note, isn't it hilarious the same people that want to outlaw vaping tobacco for health reasons demand marijuana be legalized?
Posted by: Blago at June 04, 2023 12:19 PM (cOFom)

I am pretty sure the philosophic basis of that distinction is "I hate you Daddy"

Posted by: Kindltot at June 04, 2023 12:21 PM (xhaym)

40 And I know what you're thinking, I'll just buy Monday through Friday, and drink it all on Saturday and Sunday. Oh, but we'll have a weekly limit too. Three per day. Or 21 per week. Good luck becoming an alcoholic on that!
Posted by: BurtTC

1) Brew beer, it's legal.
2) Make wine, it's legal.
3) By still for perfume making, and instead of perfume distill spirits, it's illegal. It is also done by many in the US. New Zealand make nice stills and they ship to the US.
Oddly enough I know 2 people who have stills.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 04, 2023 12:21 PM (PqQAX)

41 I usually hold very strong political opinions on what is right and what is wrong. I have no idea what is the proper course for U.S. society as a believer in our constitutional republic.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 04, 2023 12:19 PM (HlyYF)

At this point in the arc of our freedoms, I think that any course of action that decreases federal control should be the default position.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 04, 2023 12:21 PM (ZCCyW)

42 33 In his right hand he held what looked like a nine-millimeter handgun. Semiautomatic, maybe a Colt. At least seven rounds, maybe twice that. Not cocked.

Snyder started to thumb back the hammer.
==

So much wrong in those three lines.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at June 04, 2023 12:18 PM (17s+e)
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Please tell me more.

Posted by: Ciampino -- Books, bandoliers, bombs and bullets at June 04, 2023 12:22 PM (qfLjt)

43 but, the VA will not transplant anyone who uses pot.

********

Conversely, gardeners cannot transplant a seedling without using a pot.

Posted by: Muldoon at June 04, 2023 12:23 PM (991eG)

44 If a felon is sufficiently violent as to proscribe their legally being armed, then said felon remains as a sufficient threat to society, as to require continued incarceration, until such time as they no longer constitute a threat.

If this extends to old age and infirmity, or even death while still imprisoned, then so be it.*

Conversely, when a felon is considered "safe" enough for unsupervised entry into society, then some consideration for them to be able to defend themselves might need enter the conversation.

I'd have no quarrel in authorizing a released felon, after three years of peaceable existence, to then be allowed a simple, pump shotgun to be kept in their domicile, or directly to, at and from, a local firing range for practice.

Should they ever be eligible for a CHL or such? I haven't reasoned that out yet, so the arguments are open, and welcomed.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

* disclaimer. my brother remains incarcerated in MN until October. VERY violent felon, I wouldn't issue him so much as a nail file till the end of his days.

Posted by: Jim at June 04, 2023 12:23 PM (e6UQI)

45 By the way, apparently June 4 is Killdozer day

Posted by: Kindltot at June 04, 2023 12:23 PM (xhaym)

46 Brew beer, it's legal.
2) Make wine, it's legal.
3) By still for perfume making, and instead of perfume distill spirits, it's illegal. It is also done by many in the US. New Zealand make nice stills and they ship to the US.
Oddly enough I know 2 people who have stills.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 04, 2023 12:21 PM (PqQAX)

I occasionally watch a YouTube channel by a home distiller in New Zealand.

Posted by: That Northern skulker at June 04, 2023 12:24 PM (eGTCV)

47 Doesn't this same stretch and manipulation of logic and language currently work for people with non-binary genders?

Why not weed?
Posted by: Dr. Bone at June 04, 2023 12:17 PM (KVGVf)

Egg-zackly.

Go to a state where cannabis is legal, smoke your little blue pills, and say they identify as mary jane.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 04, 2023 12:25 PM (ss0cA)

48 Well.

I smoked a fair amount of pot in my 20s. I'll partake occasionally now, but less than once a year for the last decade or so. Mostly because the stuff available now makes me brain dead and I don't like that feeling. I do use a THC/CBD salve for various aches and pains, it is quite effective and it doesn't get me "high."

How can the federal government track pot sales though? It's a cash only business.

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 04, 2023 12:25 PM (U2p+3)

49 I think marijuana is way more toxic than people are recognizing. I dont think its all the same as someone having a beer after work.

My instincts are more libertarian on it, but I would have preferred some sort of "decriminalization" compromise instead of full legalization. I dont think anyone belongs in prison for consumption of marijuana.

Posted by: Blago at June 04, 2023 12:25 PM (cOFom)

50 If the ATF wants or needs to enforce this they need to start in the BlueShithole cities and with the sonofthePOTUS.

Let them show the world the ATF's even handed enforcement.

(I know, I'm laughing at that one too)

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 04, 2023 12:26 PM (PqQAX)

51 legalize federally immediately

Posted by: ElCid74 at June 04, 2023 12:26 PM (SbCzz)

52
In his right hand he held what looked like a nine-millimeter handgun. Semiautomatic, maybe a Colt. At least seven rounds, maybe twice that. Not cocked.

Snyder started to thumb back the hammer.

In a science fiction setting, that weapon would host a portal to the Ammoverse and through it, access to an infinite supply of ammunition that could be fired without pausing to reload it. Hollywood knows about such portals.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 04, 2023 12:27 PM (pNxlR)

53 The arguments used to legalize weed were the same as those to legalize gay marriage-

'it won't affect your life, it's about private choice, it just makes sense, freedom, yada yada yada...'

we said 'slippery slope'
now we have LGBT mass psychosis and states legalizing hallucinogenics

Posted by: DB - at June 04, 2023 12:27 PM (geLO8)

54 I'd have no quarrel in authorizing a released felon, after three years of peaceable existence, to then be allowed a simple, pump shotgun to be kept in their domicile, or directly to, at and from, a local firing range for practice.
Should they ever be eligible for a CHL or such? I haven't reasoned that out yet, so the arguments are open, and welcomed.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Two comments on that: if someone is too dangerous to be trusted with civil rights because they may hurt someone, then they do not belong out of prison and close supervision

Once someone has served time and is released then they need to be back into society with full rights. If released on parole, then there con be continuing restrictions, but lifetime loss of rights means there is no endpoint to punishment and puts ME both in prison with the released felon, AND makes me his jailer.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 04, 2023 12:27 PM (xhaym)

55 First, I can't hold my a compact semi-auto and thumb back the hammer without gyrations.

Second most 9mm semi automatics are DA-SA. If you are not carrying with one round chambered, why carry?

Third, Colt is not well known for semi-autos except the 1911 .45 ACP is not in 9mm.

Fourth, I couldn't tell a 9mm from a .40 form a .45 looking at it.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at June 04, 2023 12:28 PM (17s+e)

56 And I know what you're thinking, I'll just buy Monday through Friday, and drink it all on Saturday and Sunday. Oh, but we'll have a weekly limit too. Three per day. Or 21 per week. Good luck becoming an alcoholic on that!
Posted by: BurtTC at June 04, 2023 12:15 PM (81i8c)

That is probably a workable, practical proposal that could be enforced. The problem for me is that I don't want to live in the kind of society that is willing to impose those kind of rules, because if they are willing to impose such restrictions on what I can do, they quite naturally will impose restrictions on what I am allowed to think and believe. I can't live with that, and I'm willing to live with whatever bad consequences come from allowing other people to have such freedoms.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 04, 2023 12:28 PM (S6gqv)

57 "At this point in the arc of our freedoms, I think that any course of action that decreases federal control should be the default position.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 04, 2023 12:21 PM"

Excellent point!

Also, when I am unsure of the proper course of governmental response - I am a BIG believer in the "50 Laboratories of Democracy" theory.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 04, 2023 12:28 PM (HlyYF)

58 The delightfully amusing reality is that the states are legalizing marijuana, and there isn't much the feds can do about it.

Sure the Feds could...they could start enforcing various federal laws and arresting all sorts of marijuana shops, distributors, etc. Just like, if a state openly ignored federal gun laws, the Feds would still swoop in and bust people.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at June 04, 2023 12:29 PM (MzJ1W)

59 1) Brew beer, it's legal.
2) Make wine, it's legal.
3) By still for perfume making, and instead of perfume distill spirits, it's illegal. It is also done by many in the US. New Zealand make nice stills and they ship to the US.
Oddly enough I know 2 people who have stills.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 04, 2023 12:21 PM (PqQAX)

That's why we'll need common sense corn, barley and hops laws.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 04, 2023 12:29 PM (ss0cA)

60 Everything will be legal or illegal at some level, and you will or won’t be prosecuted based on your politics or who in power you piss off.

Posted by: Roy Hawkes at June 04, 2023 12:29 PM (nFDf9)

61 44
I have maintained that once someone completes his/her sentence then they have paid the debt to society and should get back all civil rights, including removal of the record. That record should only reappear in the event of another felony being committed by said individual.

Posted by: Ciampino --- Books, bandoliers, bombs and bullets at June 04, 2023 12:29 PM (qfLjt)

62 The Bursa 380 that my late first husband bought has a hammer. He bought it off the books and chose that model specifically for the hammer. I DO NOT OWN THIS WEAPON!!! I just have custody of it.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at June 04, 2023 12:29 PM (Wy1BU)

63 we said 'slippery slope'
now we have LGBT mass psychosis and states legalizing hallucinogenics
Posted by: DB - at June 04, 2023 12:27 PM (geLO

We have a government mandating it, and suing individuals and churches into poverty over it. It isn't a slippery slope, it is intentional persecution.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 04, 2023 12:29 PM (xhaym)

64 Conversely, gardeners cannot transplant a seedling without using a pot.
Posted by: Muldoon

Straight from the sprouting tray to the ground avoids any pot usage.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 04, 2023 12:30 PM (PqQAX)

65 hiya

Posted by: JT at June 04, 2023 12:30 PM (T4tVD)

66 There are cannabis stories on almost every corner since it was legalized in Canada. I know a lot of users. I'm not interested.

Posted by: That Northern skulker at June 04, 2023 12:30 PM (eGTCV)

67 legalize federally immediately
Posted by: ElCid74 at June 04, 2023 12:26 PM (SbCzz)

Problem is "disparate impact". Pot is so easy to grow, prepare, and sell, that collecting the taxes due on it is well-nigh impossible. We are seeing that right now, where States that made it "legal" are crying in their beer because the expected windfall of marijuana tax revenue simply never materialized.

So why should those of us who prefer alcohol bear all the tax burden, while the potheads don't?

My solution? If pot is made Federally legal, get the Fed out of the tax business on both it AND alcohol.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 04, 2023 12:31 PM (nUEj1)

68 That is probably a workable, practical proposal that could be enforced. The problem for me is that I don't want to live in the kind of society that is willing to impose those kind of rules, because if they are willing to impose such restrictions on what I can do, they quite naturally will impose restrictions on what I am allowed to think and believe. I can't live with that, and I'm willing to live with whatever bad consequences come from allowing other people to have such freedoms.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 04, 2023 12:28 PM (S6gqv)

I wasn't really being serious. Just thinking of laws that already exist for buying sudafed and other such meds that USED to be OTC. Buy too much of it in any given month, and they CAN charge you with some sort of meth making charge.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 04, 2023 12:31 PM (ss0cA)

69 "I think beer has corrosive effects on society, has been mostly ignored by scientific research from that point of view, and I believe it will be shown to be much less benign in the coming years."

Posted by: Blatant Hypocrisy at June 04, 2023 12:31 PM (1dzqn)

70 I'm only in agreement with Felons being banned from owning firearms with a path for them to petition for the right to be restored. It's the consequence and part of the punishment of being a felon.

Posted by: polynikes at June 04, 2023 12:31 PM (MNhXM)

71 "I think tobacco has corrosive effects on society, has been mostly ignored by scientific research from that point of view, and I believe it will be shown to be much less benign in the coming years."

Posted by: Blatant Hypocrisy at June 04, 2023 12:32 PM (1dzqn)

72 Straight from the sprouting tray to the ground avoids any pot usage.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron

********

I figured somebody would point out a workaround. Thanks.

Posted by: Muldoon at June 04, 2023 12:32 PM (991eG)

73 Second most 9mm semi automatics are DA-SA. If you are not carrying with one round chambered, why carry?

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at June 04, 2023 12:28 PM (17s+e)

I carry a revolver on an empty chamber.

Posted by: BignJames at June 04, 2023 12:32 PM (AwYPR)

74 "I think sugar has corrosive effects on society, has been mostly ignored by scientific research from that point of view, and I believe it will be shown to be much less benign in the coming years."

Posted by: Blatant Hypocrisy at June 04, 2023 12:32 PM (1dzqn)

75 "I think guns have corrosive effects on society, has been mostly ignored by scientific research from that point of view, and I believe it will be shown to be much less benign in the coming years."

Posted by: Blatant Hypocrisy at June 04, 2023 12:32 PM (1dzqn)

76 ...except perhaps for violent felons...
Who have not completed their sentences.

A condition of parole being prohibited from gun possession is fine too.

Give them 20 to life, early parole at 5 years, and the terms of parole for the remainder.

At least pretend to be consistent.

If a lifetime bar on weapons after "sentence complete" then they should probably still be in prison.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 04, 2023 12:32 PM (NXGg0)

77 "I think television has corrosive effects on society, has been mostly ignored by scientific research from that point of view, and I believe it will be shown to be much less benign in the coming years."

Posted by: Blatant Hypocrisy at June 04, 2023 12:33 PM (1dzqn)

78 Yes, States nullification of Federal law will prove the most important legal principle of the 21st century.

Two can play that game and we should.

Posted by: naftali (havel) at June 04, 2023 12:33 PM (+EnXD)

79 June 4 is also the 81st anniversary of the beginning of the battle of Midway.

Posted by: Old Blue at June 04, 2023 12:33 PM (Pxa/w)

80 "I think meat has corrosive effects on society, has been mostly ignored by scientific research from . . . .

"I think private transportation has corrosive effects on society, has been mostly ignored by scientific research from . . . .

"I think freedom of speech has corrosive effects on society, has been mostly ignored by scientific research from . . . .

Posted by: Kindltot at June 04, 2023 12:34 PM (xhaym)

81 ..Once someone has served time and is released then they need to be back into society with full rights. If released on parole, then there con be continuing restrictions, but lifetime loss of rights means there is no endpoint to punishment and puts ME both in prison with the released felon, AND makes me his jailer.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 04, 2023 12:27 PM (xhaym)

Your first comment echoes my first paragraph, I think we're in agreement, there.

And I concur with your second. And yes, a period of parole or other supervised release, can easily carry with it a scope of restrictions. Likely should, too.

Parallel. Should a convicted Dr. or CPA or Lawyer or etc, receive the restoration of their Professional Certificate(s) and/or License, upon restoration of other rights? Subject to required updates to Continued Professional Education, of course.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at June 04, 2023 12:34 PM (e6UQI)

82 "I think television has corrosive effects on society, has been mostly ignored by scientific research from that point of view, and I believe it will be shown to be much less benign in the coming years."
Posted by: Blatant Hypocrisy at June 04, 2023 12:33 PM (1dzqn)

I think you have a point there, but if you wear a hat, it won't show.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 04, 2023 12:34 PM (nUEj1)

83 I am of an age where I have performed an observational longitudinal study of the effects of the massive increase in THC content in marijuana.

The dumbass 8th graders that tried to get as baked as possible in the 70s were nowhere near as impaired as people today that take a few hits off of the stuff that is 500% greater in THC.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 04, 2023 12:11 PM

LOL, just tell all of the stoners that weed has been genetically modified (GMO) and half of them will quit using it instantly.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 04, 2023 12:35 PM (ncXxy)

84 I carry a revolver on an empty chamber.
Posted by: BignJames at June 04, 2023 12:32 PM (AwYPR)

You might consider buying a safer revolver.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 04, 2023 12:35 PM (xhaym)

85 It's only legal to Taz it

Posted by: Skip at June 04, 2023 12:35 PM (xhxe8)

86 I got the fever for the flavor of a Pringles.

https://youtu.be/cNh0PHFAaQQ
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 04, 2023 12:21 PM (63Dwl)

Good lord, I'm ready to criminalize these things now.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 04, 2023 12:35 PM (ss0cA)

87 That's why we'll need common sense corn, barley and hops laws.
Posted by: BurtTC

You don't need any grain to make alcohol.
Sugar for ethanol.
Honey for mead (also ethanol; but, not as high ETOH content).

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 04, 2023 12:36 PM (PqQAX)

88 53 The arguments used to legalize weed were the same as those to legalize gay marriage-

'it won't affect your life, it's about private choice, it just makes sense, freedom, yada yada yada...'

we said 'slippery slope'
now we have LGBT mass psychosis and states legalizing hallucinogenics

Posted by: DB - at June 04, 2023 12:27 PM (geLO

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Not quite the same as gay rights. When the stoner manages to hit me head-on on the freeway, it's no different to someone over the alcohol limit doing the same. Jail time id needed.

Posted by: Ciampino - Books, bandoliers, bombs & bullets at June 04, 2023 12:36 PM (qfLjt)

89 While we're on the topic, it's worth looking at the hilariously self defeating fiasco that legalization in California has become. The idea was to legalize marijuana completely, then regulate it and tax it, thus diverting money from the cartels to the State. Conceptually, not a bad plan. But California has been so greedy and hamhanded that they now appear to have almost completely destroyed the legal distribution business, along with the finances of anyone who tried to follow their rules. Obviously, the business will now go back to the Cartels, who have the added benefit that what they're selling is no longer illegal, it's just a tax violation. Ooh, I'll bet that scares them.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 04, 2023 12:36 PM (S6gqv)

90 LOL, just tell all of the stoners that weed has been genetically modified (GMO) and half of them will quit using it instantly.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 04, 2023 12:35 PM (ncXxy)

Didn't stop those GMO critics from getting the COVID jab.

Posted by: polynikes at June 04, 2023 12:37 PM (MNhXM)

91 LOL, just tell all of the stoners that weed has been genetically modified (GMO) and half of them will quit using it instantly.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 04, 2023 12:35 PM

Ah, I wondered why pot use was starting to be discouraged in Amsterdam.

You should probably get the lucrative contract for their next big ad campaign!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 04, 2023 12:37 PM (HlyYF)

92 30 Just a little safety warning. ,22 Magnum varies ever so slightly in case and rim diameter. Firing .22 LR and lengths below is not good, resulting in split cases and other mayhem.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at June 04, 2023 12:37 PM (lz5hY)

93 Both sides of the so called gun control / gun rights debate is so much BS intended to separate people from their money.

Name 3 people prosecuted and convicted solely for violating some gun law. Likewise name 3 law abiding citizens who’ve had their guns confiscated.

Posted by: Queequeg the Harpoonet at June 04, 2023 12:38 PM (9X60i)

94 Didn't stop those GMO critics from getting the COVID jab.
Posted by: polynikes at June 04, 2023 12:37 PM (MNhXM)

Now they are the GMO's, LOL.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 04, 2023 12:38 PM (nUEj1)

95 Related topic. I said this previously but the woman who is now our county executive was formerly on state marijuana control board which was tasked with the regs and rollout of pot legalization in NYS. She was on a local radio station saying "the rollout will be done with equity, social justice and giving those negatively harmed by laws the first chance at licenses." This was last July or August and they're still fumbling around with it upstate. In NYC there are seven legal dispensaries and about 2500 illegal shops. Only a state could screw up something simple like pot dealing.ive read that some of the legal farms are having economic difficulties because of regs, taxes and the screwed up rollout. It doesn't surprise me that no one thought about guns and pot. Our leaders and bureaucracy are idiots.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 04, 2023 12:38 PM (mmVCq)

96 Legalizing drugs and using the alcohol comparison as one of the arguments is like the minimum wage argument to me. You can see where I'm going with that.

Posted by: polynikes at June 04, 2023 12:39 PM (MNhXM)

97 89 While we're on the topic, it's worth looking at the hilariously self defeating fiasco that legalization in California has become.

You should see what they are doing in NY. There's a handful of legals that were accorded preferentially on race basis, yet there are shop on virtually every corner of the city.

Roll out issues no pun intended.

Government just can't anymore

Posted by: naftali (havel) at June 04, 2023 12:40 PM (+EnXD)

98 "giving those negatively harmed by laws the first chance at licenses"

1. is there such a thing as "positively harmed"?

2. That translates as: "Give the pot shop licenses to felons."

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 04, 2023 12:40 PM (nUEj1)

99 I have never smoked weed.

I have never owned firearms.

We good, Bob?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 04, 2023 12:41 PM (RIvkX)

100 The sand in Kindltot's vag has a corrosive effect.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at June 04, 2023 12:41 PM (jYCXf)

101 Give them 20 to life, early parole at 5 years, and the terms of parole for the remainder.

At least pretend to be consistent.

If a lifetime bar on weapons after "sentence complete" then they should probably still be in prison.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 04, 2023 12:32 PM (NXGg0)

There's probably room to work this out in your statements. If someone is sentenced to 20 to life, then what is their actual sentence? Five or ten years in prison? Ok, then once they are released from lockup, where does the 20 to life thing go? It would seem to me, the sentence SHOULD be... you're supervised (with limited rights) at LEAST until those 20 years are up.

So even if we don't keep you in the joint the whole time, your original sentence is the time you are at least partially monitored. Including limiting your access to guns.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 04, 2023 12:41 PM (NrEAT)

102 >Legalizing drugs and using the alcohol comparison as one of the arguments

An stupidity unique to our day an age I think where we reject tradition in favor of 'reasoning' about everything from first principles.

Posted by: naftali (havel) at June 04, 2023 12:42 PM (+EnXD)

103 LOL, just tell all of the stoners that weed has been genetically modified (GMO) and half of them will quit using it instantly.
Posted by: Mister Scott

Ask the GMO haters if they got a Moderna or Pfizer covid shot.
Remind them that they have been GMO'd and further usage of GMO produce will have no effects.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 04, 2023 12:42 PM (PqQAX)

104 >>>I carry a revolver on an empty chamber.

Posted by: BignJames

>Are you suggesting that when the hammer is cocked, the cylinder indexes to a loaded chamber?

Posted by: Dr. Alec Baldwin at June 04, 2023 12:42 PM (KVGVf)

105 100

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 04, 2023 12:42 PM (RIvkX)

106 Unfortunately, DU is focused on more important things than guns or marijuana at the moment...it's PRIDE month, after all...so no real gun madness to share.

Instead, enjoy this photo of Senator Fetterman, draped in a rainbow flag marching in (I think) a Pittsburgh Pride parade.
https://tinyurl.com/3u7asxwy

And the DUers also shared this photo of his courage, flying flags from the PA capital as Lt Gov despite rules disallowing it. He's such a dreamy rebel for human rights!!!
https://tinyurl.com/3h88ww9r

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at June 04, 2023 12:42 PM (MzJ1W)

107 Posted by: Blatant Hypocrisy at June 04, 2023 12:31 PM (1dzqn)

The effects of alcohol are well known, and our society understands it much better than marijuana.

As for hypocrisy? I said nothing about alcohol...there was no comparison.

So maybe a bit of reading comprehension is in order.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 04, 2023 12:43 PM (ZCCyW)

108 99 I have never smoked weed.

I have never owned firearms.

We good, Bob?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 04, 2023 12:41 PM

We Morons would certainly like to see you modify ONE of those statements!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 04, 2023 12:43 PM (HlyYF)

109 Fourth, I couldn't tell a 9mm from a .40 form a .45 looking at it.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at June 04, 2023 12:28 PM (17s+e)
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It's stamped on the base of the cartridge case.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at June 04, 2023 12:43 PM (2hlEI)

110 I wasn't really being serious. Just thinking of laws that already exist for buying sudafed and other such meds that USED to be OTC. Buy too much of it in any given month, and they CAN charge you with some sort of meth making charge.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 04, 2023 12:31 PM (ss0cA)

I knew you weren't. I oppose those laws on sudafed as well - the system I prefer is what prevails in Mexico and points south; you can go to a pharmacy and buy almost any prescription drug you want, no restrictions. It's up to you what you do with it. Mexico has always been a fascinating contradiction - in many ways, government has far more power and authority than we think is acceptable, and yet in others it is far more libertarian than we would ever dream of being.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 04, 2023 12:44 PM (S6gqv)

111 Minnesota libs are generally pro-gun so this could get real interesting.

Posted by: CppThis at June 04, 2023 12:45 PM (PZvjL)

112 In the last couple of years we've had multiple mass shooting by trannies because despite what the left screams on a constant basis it is a mental illness.

How many mass shootings have been done by stoners in the same time period?

Posted by: JackStraw at June 04, 2023 12:46 PM (ZLI7S)

113 Name 3 people prosecuted and convicted solely for violating some gun law. Likewise name 3 law abiding citizens who’ve had their guns confiscated.
Posted by: Queequeg the Harpoonet at June 04, 2023 12:38 PM (9X60i)

Let's start with Randy Weaver and go from there, OK?

Posted by: Kindltot at June 04, 2023 12:46 PM (xhaym)

114 You don't need any grain to make alcohol.
Sugar for ethanol.
Honey for mead (also ethanol; but, not as high ETOH content).
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 04, 2023 12:36 PM (PqQAX)

Fine, put them on the list. No sugar for you!!

Posted by: BurtTC at June 04, 2023 12:46 PM (NrEAT)

115 @89 Tom Servo. I think I was typing at the same time as you. NY is replicating Cali in its marijuana rollout clusterfuck. Big government just cannot stop big governing.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 04, 2023 12:46 PM (mmVCq)

116 ..I carry a revolver on an empty chamber.
Posted by: BignJames at June 04, 2023 12:32 PM (AwYPR)

Pretty much any revolver introduced to the market after the 1920s, will feature some form of a "hammer block" in the mechanism. This will prevent the hammer from causing a discharge, as it'll strike only the blockage device, which in a transfer bar design, is the frame itself).

Colt's "Police Positive" models had this. S&Ws had this at about the same time. Hell, Iver-Johnson patented the Transfer Bar system in the late 1800s.

Unless you're carrying a faithful repro of a Colt Single Action Army, there's no need to carry hammer down on an empty chamber. NONE WHATSOVER.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at June 04, 2023 12:47 PM (e6UQI)

117 One thing that irks me is the ease in some states and the general pain in the ass in others for someone to regain their firearms rights. There's a fella that lives in my complex, just a great guy, highly responsible, opens and closes his place of work and takes care of the money. He can't own a gun because he got in a minor, yet felony, jackpot over 20 years ago. I suggested petitioning for relief from disability, but Arkansas is very, very, hard ass about matters like that.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at June 04, 2023 12:47 PM (lz5hY)

118 Your tax dollars at work!

State Department Launches Multimillion Dollar Effort to Push Gender Diversity in Iraq

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at June 04, 2023 12:47 PM (FVME7)

119 I don't like pot and I think its bad for people (especially young people) but so is overeating and getting no exercise or playing video games all day. Its none of my business, you live your life. There are some drugs so godawful and destructive they should be banned (PCP, Heroin, that kind of thing), but most of them are just stupid to use.

The federal government has no constitutional power to ban any substance nationwide anyway. The most they can do is ban it crossing state lines or the US border. It doesn't matter how much of a good idea it seems.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 04, 2023 12:48 PM (0hOvj)

120 State Department Launches Multimillion Dollar Effort to Push Gender Diversity in Iraq
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at June 04, 2023 12:47 PM (FVME7)
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That will go over really well.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at June 04, 2023 12:48 PM (2hlEI)

121 112 How many mass shootings have been done by stoners in the same time period?
Posted by: JackStraw at June 04, 2023 12:46 PM (ZLI7S)

When a stoner has an equivalent rage-fueled psychotic break: "There's like, you know, uh, injustices in this world, maaaaaan..."

*takes another hit*

Posted by: CppThis at June 04, 2023 12:48 PM (PZvjL)

122 115 @89 Tom Servo. I think I was typing at the same time as you. NY is replicating Cali in its marijuana rollout clusterfuck. Big government just cannot stop big governing.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 04, 2023 12:46 PM (mmVCq)

It's actually a lot worse. They've spent so much time considering how to allocate the spoils that the market was seized from underneath them.

In California there are actual legal establishments. In NY they are all illegal.

Posted by: naftali (havel) at June 04, 2023 12:49 PM (+EnXD)

123 How many mass shootings have been done by stoners in the same time period?
Posted by: JackStraw at June 04, 2023 12:46 PM (ZLI7S)

There was that guy that chewed the other guy's face off in public . . .

It is not so much what doe pot do, it is more, what does pot paper over until it is to big to hide?
Pablo Escobar, for example, was a murderous thug who was a murderous thug when he was just running marijuana out of Colombia before he became a transhipper of Bolivian cocaine. He was a heavy pot smoker.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 04, 2023 12:49 PM (xhaym)

124 How many mass shootings have been done by stoners in the same time period?

They planned hundreds. Bought the guns, ammo, and everything. But then they got high and decided to go get some Doritos and Mountain Dew instead.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at June 04, 2023 12:50 PM (Bd6X8)

125 >>>How many mass shootings have been done by stoners in the same time period?

Posted by: JackStraw

>Are we taking X-Box into consideration here? Lots of folks there getting wee-weed up!

Posted by: Dr. Alec Baldwin at June 04, 2023 12:50 PM (KVGVf)

126 So even if we don't keep you in the joint the whole time, your original sentence is the time you are at least partially monitored. Including limiting your access to guns.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 04, 2023 12:41 PM (NrEAT)

Any restriction on gun rights for released felons has to consider why they were put away. Previous assault or killing with a firearm? Lifetime ban. History of multiple violent offenses not involving firearms? At least ten years after expiration of the full sentence. Put away for fraud? Restore firearms rights after parole has ended.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 04, 2023 12:50 PM (nUEj1)

127 The conservatives who claim to run the red states need to push back against the federal government. Not open defiance yet but massive, passive non-cooperation. Establish that the states are equal powers.
Just drag everything possible out; expose the weakness of the federal power.

The federal government is only going to get weaker and less able to do anything. It's taken over by vicious but ineffective feminine that cannot weild, understand or counter masculine.
The whole house of cards will come down when the first state calls their bluff of using federal troops to enforce the vindictive laws that are coming--e.g., within the next 5 years, they are going to force through via Executive Order, rules that completely gut the 1st, 2nd, 4th. Biden or the Democrat that wins in 2024 will issue a "trans bill of rights" that ends the 1st, a "safe communities" that ends the 2nd, and an "anti-white supremacy" and insurrection rule that eliminates warrants, arresting people merely on suspicion of "hate crimes," which evidence they will plant in the media.
They have already written these EOs, they're just manufacturing the pretext to issue them ....

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 04, 2023 12:50 PM (5EnGD)

128 >State Department Launches Multimillion Dollar Effort to ~~Push Gender Diversity in Iraq~~ launder money to preferred groups or persons

Posted by: DB - at June 04, 2023 12:50 PM (geLO8)

129 My son took drug awareness classes in his California middle school. Very small amount of time spent on marijuana with no discussion of its dangers

Lots of time spent in nicotine and vaping. They kept saying it’s a poison (“The dose makes the poison!!!”

in line with the constantly anti nicotine ads I hear. No ads on marijuana and how it causes psychotic breaks, paranoia, etc…

I live in a crazy state.

Posted by: Justin Castreau at June 04, 2023 12:51 PM (V8yYW)

130 How many mass shootings have been done by stoners in the same time period?

Nearly all of them are on various drugs, but I don't know of any on weed. That said, pot+schizophrenia creates a violent, dangerous person so its not impossible.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 04, 2023 12:51 PM (0hOvj)

131 Fine, put them on the list. No sugar for you!!
Posted by: BurtTC

You're going to upset a *whole* lot of people!
I'm not one of them.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 04, 2023 12:51 PM (PqQAX)

132 Let's start with Randy Weaver and go from there, OK?

Posted by: Kindltot at June 04, 2023 12:46 PM (xhaym

Not making a pro / con comment on Ruby Ridge just pointing out he was never convicted. He refused to have his day in court because he didn't trust it. That was the catalyst for the stand off. I do find it ironic that he was subsequently found not guilty by the court.

Posted by: polynikes at June 04, 2023 12:51 PM (MNhXM)

133 I just found out that my brother in PA has an alternate identity as a woman. My eyes are ready to roll out of my head. This guy was once a staunch conservative.

I could blame it on the bitch he married, but I guess our family has enough baggage to carry this crap.

My other brother, his twin who lives with us, has renounced his gayness and is solidly conservative now.

I just can't even.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at June 04, 2023 12:51 PM (Mzdiz)

134 115 @89 Tom Servo. I think I was typing at the same time as you. NY is replicating Cali in its marijuana rollout clusterfuck. Big government just cannot stop big governing.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 04, 2023 12:46 PM (mmVCq)

As has often been said, many times, many ways, government IS organized crime. Legal organized crime.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 04, 2023 12:51 PM (NrEAT)

135 The sand in Kindltot's vag has a corrosive effect.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at June 04, 2023 12:41 PM (jYCXf)

At least I know what a vag looks like.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 04, 2023 12:52 PM (xhaym)

136 Fine, put them on the list. No sugar for you!!
Posted by: BurtTC

You're going to upset a *whole* lot of people!
I'm not one of them.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 04, 2023 12:51 PM (PqQAX)

All I can say is, you'll have to pry the caffeine from my cold, dead fingers.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 04, 2023 12:52 PM (NrEAT)

137 Fourth, I couldn't tell a 9mm from a .40 form a .45 looking at it.
Posted by: Jukin

Looking up the pipe there is a huge difference between 9mm and 45. That 40 is a lot hardee.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 04, 2023 12:53 PM (NXGg0)

138 How many mass shootings have been done by stoners in the same time period?
Posted by: JackStraw at June 04, 2023 12:46 PM (ZLI7S)

"Stoner" and "mass shooting" are overdefined.

You'll have to define them first if you want an honest answer.

I would wager the vast majority of "urban" youths who pop off multiple rounds in CHC any given weekend are high on pot and alcohol.

And routinely use pot. And alcohol. And prob other stuff.

But idk if they are "stoners" or those are "mass shootings".

Posted by: Thesokorus at June 04, 2023 12:53 PM (bQg5t)

139 Nearly all of them are on various drugs, but I don't know of any on weed. That said, pot+schizophrenia creates a violent, dangerous person so its not impossible.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 04, 2023 12:51 PM (0hOvj)

If you are a user of other drugs I can guarantee that 99% also use weed on occasion.

Posted by: polynikes at June 04, 2023 12:53 PM (MNhXM)

140 >>It is not so much what doe pot do, it is more, what does pot paper over until it is to big to hide?
Pablo Escobar, for example, was a murderous thug who was a murderous thug when he was just running marijuana out of Colombia before he became a transhipper of Bolivian cocaine. He was a heavy pot smoker.

Can do the same thing with alcohol which is a lot more prevalent in our society. Not everyone who drinks is trying to hide something nor is everyone who smokes.

As to Pablo Escobar take a look at Capone during prohibition. Same same. Legislating morality will always cause some people to find a way to make money off it and they don't tend to be the Mother Theresa types.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 04, 2023 12:53 PM (ZLI7S)

141 I am a BIG believer in the "50 Laboratories of Democracy" theory.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 04, 2023 12:28 PM

Sounds a lot like a fascist, istaphobic dog whistle to me! Only a hair's breadth from the OPENLY fascist cry of State's rights!!!

Posted by: Leftist NPC at June 04, 2023 12:53 PM (MzJ1W)

142 At least I know what a vag looks like.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 04, 2023 12:52 PM (xhaym)

Well.... we're waiting! Tell us!!

Posted by: BurtTC at June 04, 2023 12:53 PM (NrEAT)

143 Its basically impossible to get all sugar out of your diet, but I have almost totally eliminated any added sweetener. its a lot of trouble to find it because its in crap you would never have expected, but its worth it.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 04, 2023 12:54 PM (0hOvj)

144 At least I know what a vag looks like.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 04, 2023 12:52 PM (xhaym)

Are they as scary as I have heard?

Posted by: Thesokorus at June 04, 2023 12:54 PM (bQg5t)

145 This is why we need transwomen in sports.

U.S. Women’s Soccer Team Pummeled 12-0 by Team of Older, Male Players

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at June 04, 2023 12:54 PM (FVME7)

146 Looking up the pipe there is a huge difference between 9mm and 45. That 40 is a lot hardee.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 04, 2023 12:53 PM (NXGg0)

It's harder for me to tell the difference between 9mm casings and .380 casings

Posted by: polynikes at June 04, 2023 12:55 PM (MNhXM)

147 At least I know what a vag looks like.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 04, 2023 12:52 PM (xhaym)

Are they as scary as I have heard?
Posted by: Thesokorus at June 04, 2023 12:54 PM (bQg5t)
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Yes. Very.

Posted by: H. R. Giger at June 04, 2023 12:55 PM (2hlEI)

148 118 Your tax dollars at work!

State Department Launches Multimillion Dollar Effort to Push Gender Diversity in Iraq

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at June 04, 2023 12:47 PM (FVME7)

Our Betters failed at successfully exporting our form of government to every Sh!tholeistan. Did they learn a lesson? Nope, now they are trying to export US Woke Culture to the Third World. Insanity. But as we all know, they were insane coming out of kindergarten at their ultra-exclusive private schools.

Posted by: Gref at June 04, 2023 12:55 PM (AMIL/)

149 Kentucky's marijuana laws are a patchwork of nonsense. And they want to legalize "medical marijuana" but the current laws on the books would have to be rewritten. And the legislature doesn't want to be inconvenienced with that.

Oh, and you'd need a prescription. The details of how that'd work are unclear. As is where you'd be permitted to buy said "medical marijuana."

Honestly, you'd be better off growing your own.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 04, 2023 12:55 PM (Q4IgG)

150 If you are a user of other drugs I can guarantee that 99% also use weed on occasion.

Generally true, but most of these are on stuff like antidepressants, etc. So its "legitimate" drugs, not like cocaine or bath salts

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 04, 2023 12:56 PM (0hOvj)

151 At this point in the arc of our freedoms, I think that any course of action that decreases federal control should be the default position.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 04, 2023 12:21 PM (ZCCyW)

Yep.

Posted by: clutch at June 04, 2023 12:56 PM (9UmRs)

152 Honestly, I don't understand why y'all have your panties in a bunch regarding marijuana. If you don't like it, don't use it. But there are way more recreational users than you know who are also productive members of society, responsible parents and yes, Gun owners.

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 04, 2023 12:56 PM (U2p+3)

153 OT

I would ask that you all wish me a Happy Birthday. You will have the distinction of being the only people in the world to do so.

Yes, this is fishing for recognition, but it's a rainy Sunday, and it's either this or vacuuming.

Posted by: DB - at June 04, 2023 12:56 PM (geLO8)

154 Well.... we're waiting! Tell us!!
Posted by: BurtTC at June 04, 2023 12:53 PM (NrEAT)

Ask your mom.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 04, 2023 12:57 PM (xhaym)

155 @145 the video highlights of that game are hysterical. The very good women had no chance and it didn't look like the men were trying that hard. Even with that the men's shots on goal were rockets compared to anything the women did.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 04, 2023 12:57 PM (mmVCq)

156 I would ask that you all wish me a Happy Birthday. You will have the distinction of being the only people in the world to do so.

Yes, this is fishing for recognition, but it's a rainy Sunday, and it's either this or vacuuming.
Posted by: DB - at June 04, 2023 12:56 PM (geLO

Well, Happy Birthday to you!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 04, 2023 12:58 PM (nUEj1)

157 The 4473 now asks if you live -
In the city limits
Outside city limits
Not sure

So a new chance to get 'caught' lying.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 04, 2023 12:58 PM (Jj0+x)

158 130 Christopher

Back in the day when I quit reefer, it was mostly due to instances of mild paranoia. The absolute last thing I would have wanted to do was go out and violently engage people.
Hanging out at home, listening to music, and eating pizza was far more comforting... 🙃

Posted by: COMountainMarie at June 04, 2023 12:58 PM (s711o)

159 Posted by: BurtTC at June 04, 2023 12:41 PM (NrEAT)

Any restriction on gun rights for released felons has to consider why they were put away. Previous assault or killing with a firearm? Lifetime ban. History of multiple violent offenses not involving firearms? At least ten years after expiration of the full sentence. Put away for fraud? Restore firearms rights after parole has ended.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 04, 2023 12:50 PM (nUEj1)

All reasonable considerations. I would hope most would agree a lifetime ban is not reasonable. And the burden should NOT be on the felon to apply for the restoration of their rights. If they're rights, there's nothing to restore. Your "sentence" is up? You are a citizen, just like everyone else. We just have to define what the "sentence" is.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 04, 2023 12:58 PM (NrEAT)

160 #8. Is there a hammer on any sort of semiauto?

Why yes, yes there is. Beretta, Sig, H&K, Taurus and Springfield all have semi autos with a hammer.

Posted by: FrankinTexas at June 04, 2023 12:58 PM (e9l8y)

161 Happy Birthday, DB!

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at June 04, 2023 12:58 PM (2hlEI)

162 DB, happy birthday. Now think of something that you would like to do, and if you can afford it, go do it as a present to yourself. Don't skimp or be cheap, it is a birthday present.

Even better, find someone who wants to go do it with you.
Do it this week, next week may not come or you might get busy and forget.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 04, 2023 12:58 PM (xhaym)

163 All reasonable considerations. I would hope most would agree a lifetime ban is not reasonable.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 04, 2023 12:58 PM (NrEAT)

I mean a blanket lifetime ban for all. For some? Sure.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 04, 2023 12:59 PM (NrEAT)

164 Posted by: DB - at June 04, 2023 12:56 PM (geLO8

Happy 29th ?

Happy B Day in any event.

Posted by: polynikes at June 04, 2023 12:59 PM (MNhXM)

165 I'm personally neutral on pot, I think it probably offers some useful things for us but there's a lot of unknowns. But I'm getting tired of government attempts to play moral police on everything, particularly since the ones doing the policing built a mighty cathedral to the wonderfulness of pot vis a vis boomer rock and the counterculture.

Also worth noting that most of those unknowns are such because of heavy handed government meddling. Perhaps we'll know more in a few years.

Posted by: CppThis at June 04, 2023 01:00 PM (PZvjL)

166 >Happy Birthday, DB!

Posted by: Captain Obvious

You remembered!

Posted by: DB - at June 04, 2023 01:00 PM (geLO8)

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Posted by: Ciampino - Never rush to judgement at June 04, 2023 01:00 PM (qfLjt)

168 Well.... we're waiting! Tell us!!
Posted by: BurtTC at June 04, 2023 12:53 PM (NrEAT)

Ask your mom.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 04, 2023 12:57 PM (xhaym)

She'd just tell me I had my one chance to look, and if I didn't at that time, it's my fault.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 04, 2023 01:01 PM (NrEAT)

169 It is absurd to me that a violent felon is not put to death and we therefore have to make Rube Goldberg systems to decide if they can have a gun or not post release.

Yes I know Soros had the DAs now. Blah blah blah.

Posted by: Thesokorus at June 04, 2023 01:01 PM (bQg5t)

170 I cannot speak for others, but for me, my problems with pot are from watching family and friends get turned into slacker idiots by indulging. I don't like what it does to people.

But as I said: we're free to do stupid stuff.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 04, 2023 01:01 PM (0hOvj)

171 So even if we don't keep you in the joint the whole time, your original sentence is the time you are at least partially monitored. Including limiting your access to guns.
Posted by: BurtTC

Conditions of parole should be negotiable. Maybe they and the felons attorney just takes whatever the State puts on the table. Not like he gets anything out of it.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 04, 2023 01:01 PM (NXGg0)

172 99 I have never smoked weed.

I have never owned firearms.

maybe if you smoked some weed, you'd want some guns

Posted by: REDACTED at June 04, 2023 01:01 PM (us2H3)

173 >Why yes, yes there is. Beretta, Sig, H&K, Taurus and Springfield all have semi autos with a hammer.

Posted by: FrankinTexas

With the H&K you can chamber a round, then de-cock the hammer. The 1st shot goes off like a DA revolver, then each subsequent shot in semi-auto.

Posted by: DB - at June 04, 2023 01:02 PM (geLO8)

174 To this and similar comments on intellectual honesty
14 A big problem for keeping marijuana criminalized is is that every argument in favor of banning it also applies to alcohol, and every argument in favor of keeping alcohol legal also is an argument for legalizing marijuana.

There's no intellectually honest way to treat the two differently.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 04, 2023 12:08 PM (S6gqv)
Check out Alex Berenson’s excellent 2019 Imprimis article at
https://imprimis.hillsdale.edu/

Posted by: TX Lurker Dave at June 04, 2023 01:02 PM (pQ45c)

175 142 At least I know what a vag looks like.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 04, 2023 12:52 PM (xhaym)

Well.... we're waiting! Tell us!!
Posted by: BurtTC at June 04, 2023 12:53 PM

If the lyrics from Awkwafina's song "My Vag", are and indication, I don't think we want any more details:

It's time that we let the world know (What),
Bitch, your vag look like Janet Reno

Posted by: Moron Analyst at June 04, 2023 01:02 PM (MzJ1W)

176 I mean a blanket lifetime ban for all. For some? Sure.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 04, 2023 12:59 PM (NrEAT)

Right. And I would also suggest the circumstances of the case would be important. Say a guy is jailed for ten years because he shot a yute doing donuts in his yard. I would, at worst, call that "using excess force for the nature of the crime", but I would restore that guy's gun rights after the expiry of the sentence. Another guy gets ten years for armed robbery of a liquor store? Lifetime ban.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 04, 2023 01:03 PM (nUEj1)

177 Happy Birthday, DB!

I hereby sentence you to LIFE. Now, go and ENJOY it!

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at June 04, 2023 01:03 PM (e6UQI)

178 I have never smoked weed.

I have never owned firearms.

maybe if you smoked some weed, you'd want some guns
Posted by: REDACTED at June 04, 2023 01:01 PM (us2H3)
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After a hit of cocaine, I was a new man. The problem was, the new man wanted another hit of cocaine.

-- George Carlin

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at June 04, 2023 01:03 PM (2hlEI)

179 The absolute last thing I would have wanted to do was go out and violently engage people.

I think probably the more powerful modern weed is even worse that way. But as I said, schizophrenics react very differently to marijuana, it tends to make them violent and aggressive.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 04, 2023 01:04 PM (0hOvj)

180 >>> 8 I'm not well versed with handguns. I'm reading and I come across this:
In his right hand he held what looked like a nine-millimeter handgun. Semiautomatic, maybe a Colt. At least seven rounds, maybe twice that. Not cocked.

Snyder started to thumb back the hammer.

I'll assume by 'not cocked' it means the slider is forward? Does one cock a semiauto?

Is there a hammer on any sort of semiauto?

Posted by: Ciampino - Books, bandoliers and bullets at June 04, 2023 12:06 PM (qfLjt)

1) Readeth thee the weekly Sunday gub thread
2) Verily, thee ought to hasten thy ass to the TX MoMee

3) Oh yeah.... yes, yes, and by the way any gub requires a hammer to make the powder go boom.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 04, 2023 01:04 PM (llON8)

181 aw thanks

Posted by: DB - at June 04, 2023 01:04 PM (geLO8)

182 It is absurd to me that a violent felon is not put to death and we therefore have to make Rube Goldberg systems to decide if they can have a gun or not post release.

Yes I know Soros had the DAs now. Blah blah blah.
Posted by: Thesokorus at June 04, 2023 01:01 PM (bQg5

Semi OT but If I were king, I would have my prisons separated by crime . I think it's ridiculous putting a young car thief into the same general population as a vicious murderer.

Posted by: polynikes at June 04, 2023 01:04 PM (MNhXM)

183 Yes, this is fishing for recognition, but it's a rainy Sunday, and it's either this or vacuuming.
Posted by: DB

Hope you have a great one DB!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 04, 2023 01:04 PM (PqQAX)

184 Blah Blah and I, being children of the 60s, love going to the vape store and getting our smoke on and the edibles and gummies too.

The best part is the shop owner gets paid thru Medicare as it’s our “medicine”.

I love Joe Biden!

Posted by: Harriet and Blah Blah Nyborg, boomer democrats at June 04, 2023 01:04 PM (R/m4+)

185 Happy BD, DB!

Posted by: Admirale's Mate at June 04, 2023 01:05 PM (V1lUW)

186 Jack Straw, there are a lot of arguments both sides. It is another argument like Vaccines or DDT that cannot be addressed since there is too much prestige and court settlements to ever allow a proper discussion.

It is as unrealistic to say that pot has grave consequences for everyone that uses it, as it is to say it has no consequences for anyone who uses it. For example, my half brother used pot heavily and the best I can say was that he quit drinking.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 04, 2023 01:05 PM (xhaym)

187 Cheers, AZ

Posted by: DB - at June 04, 2023 01:05 PM (geLO8)

188 A big part of the problem with felons and guns is when they came up with that idea, felony was pretty much limited to a small number of heinous crimes. Now that the US code is like 10 million pages of stuff there's all kinds of not so bad things that happen to be felonies. If the defund-the-police crowd was smart and not just rabid frothing leftists they'd focus on the myriad dysfunctions of the law, and pick up some support from the more libertarian-minded right wingers in the process.

Posted by: CppThis at June 04, 2023 01:05 PM (PZvjL)

189 Also worth noting that most of those unknowns are such because of heavy handed government meddling. Perhaps we'll know more in a few years.
Posted by: CppThis at June 04, 2023 01:00 PM (PZvjL)

Of course the number one funder of medical research is... fedgov. Guess what doesn't exist... research on long term effects of cannabis use. Believe me, I've looked.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 04, 2023 01:06 PM (NrEAT)

190 Semi OT but If I were king, I would have my prisons separated by crime . I think it's ridiculous putting a young car thief into the same general population as a vicious murderer.
Posted by: polynikes at June 04, 2023 01:04 PM (MNhXM)
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That's kind of why we have minimum, medium and maximum security prisons.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at June 04, 2023 01:06 PM (2hlEI)

191 (ok, a striker isn't exactly a hammer, but they're both moving thingys of some sort that cause the powder to ignite via percussion)

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 04, 2023 01:07 PM (llON8)

192 Semi OT but If I were king, I would have my prisons separated by crime . I think it's ridiculous putting a young car thief into the same general population as a vicious murderer.
Posted by: polynikes at June 04, 2023 01:04 PM (MNhXM)

I'm a broken record on it, but our prison "system" is a mortal sin.

Just kill most felons.

Why do we as a culture love Rube Goldberg machines that make the lives of almost all people worse?

Posted by: Thesokorus at June 04, 2023 01:07 PM (bQg5t)

193 I have never done anything unlawful.

It's all there in my permanent record.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at June 04, 2023 01:07 PM (KVGVf)

194 Obviously, the business will now go back to the Cartels, who have the added benefit that what they're selling is no longer illegal, it's just a tax violation. Ooh, I'll bet that scares them.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 04, 2023 12:36 PM (S6gqv)

Chinese mafia types. Mass operations with thousands of plants. Juiced, sprayed, chemically fertilized, moldy crap weed selling for a hundred bucks a pound. Shit-tons of it. Broke a lot of local legal growers who took a lot of pride in their product. Now for them it's not worth doing beyond personal use. This year will show a shortage of any quality weed.
Nevada screwed it up even worse. It's cheaper here now in the shops than it was in the 80's. No way they are making any money.

Posted by: Reforger at June 04, 2023 01:07 PM (B705c)

195 gracias, amigo

Posted by: DB - at June 04, 2023 01:07 PM (geLO8)

196 Of course the number one funder of medical research is... fedgov. Guess what doesn't exist... research on long term effects of cannabis use.

There is a disturbing lack of good research on the effects of marijuana use. What little there is, seems to show that pot is really damaging to young brains. But there just isn't enough out there. What I'd like to see are ways to use weed other than burning it to breathe in for a buzz.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 04, 2023 01:07 PM (0hOvj)

197 That's kind of why we have minimum, medium and maximum security prisons.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at June 04, 2023 01:06 PM (2hlEI)

Dude. Those are empty names. Meaningless.

Posted by: Thesokorus at June 04, 2023 01:07 PM (bQg5t)

198 For example, my half brother used pot heavily and the best I can say was that he quit drinking.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 04, 2023 01:05 PM (xhaym)

exactly why I never touch pot

Posted by: REDACTED at June 04, 2023 01:07 PM (us2H3)

199 Semi OT but If I were king, I would have my prisons separated by crime . I think it's ridiculous putting a young car thief into the same general population as a vicious murderer.

Better yet, to me, would be more creativity in sentencing.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 04, 2023 01:08 PM (0hOvj)

200 The fight to keep kids from cigarettes and vaping but ignoring Pot cracks me up. Leftists tie themselves in knots and could care less.

Posted by: Skip at June 04, 2023 01:09 PM (xhxe8)

201 I seem to remember that the Juramentados in the Moro rebellion tended to do a lot of pot and hash before sallying out to kill. I think they did other drugs at the same time.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 04, 2023 01:09 PM (xhaym)

202 Well, I can say from 1st hand observation that when Colorado legalized weed, things started getting really shitty

the homeless population in particular just ballooned-
the cardboard sign & grocery cart people are everywhere now

Posted by: DB - at June 04, 2023 01:09 PM (geLO8)

203 The prison "system" is like abortion. Even the most cursory examination of the reality is horrifying.

Posted by: Thesokorus at June 04, 2023 01:09 PM (bQg5t)

204 I seem to remember that the Juramentados in the Moro rebellion tended to do a lot of pot and hash before sallying out to kill. I think they did other drugs at the same time.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 04, 2023 01:09 PM (xhaym)

One might look up the etymology of "assassin", one might.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 04, 2023 01:10 PM (nUEj1)

205 Conditions of parole should be negotiable. Maybe they and the felons attorney just takes whatever the State puts on the table. Not like he gets anything out of it.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 04, 2023 01:01 PM (NXGg0)

One thing that REALLY gets under my skin is judges and parole boards who require the convicted to display remorse.

Shut the F up. You found me guilty? Fine, whether I did it or not, you don't get to decide my fate based on whether I agree that I was a bad boy or not.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 04, 2023 01:10 PM (NrEAT)

206 Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 04, 2023 01:03 PM (nUEj1)

I don't think it should be an automatic restoration because every case is different as you said . The Felon may have plead down his charges greatly and never should have it restored. As I posted up thread I would want a path to petition restoration. So instead of waiting 10 years a good person otherwise could petition immediately on the opposite end.

Posted by: polynikes at June 04, 2023 01:10 PM (MNhXM)

207 It is absurd to me that a violent felon is not put to death and we therefore have to make Rube Goldberg systems to decide if they can have a gun or not post release.
Yes I know Soros had the DAs now. Blah blah blah.
Posted by: Thesokorus at June 04, 2023 01:01 PM (bQg5t)

Cesare Beccaria (italian philosopher that influenced the founders) asked basically, You know who these authorities are, and what they do and how they misuse their power. Why are you interested in giving them such control over life and death?

Posted by: Kindltot at June 04, 2023 01:10 PM (xhaym)

208 incense and peppermints >>> cardboard and grocery carts.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at June 04, 2023 01:11 PM (2hlEI)

209 pot has been and will probably always be available to the public

it's just like booze, some can handle it, some can't

the idea that it's gonna bailout the states is the BS of the whole thing

Posted by: REDACTED at June 04, 2023 01:11 PM (us2H3)

210 A Utah school district had banned the Bible in school libraries because it's "vulgar and violent." You know, unlike Dick Sucks Dicks.

https://tinyurl.com/3mvdjade

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at June 04, 2023 01:11 PM (FVME7)

211 " every argument in favor of banning it also applies to alcohol, "

I tried that argument on the Jesuits back in HS

Posted by: Ignoramus at June 04, 2023 01:11 PM (RqMSv)

212 Happy BD DB!

Madam, I'm Adam!

Posted by: Justin Castreau at June 04, 2023 01:11 PM (5YDX5)

213 Shut the F up. You found me guilty? Fine, whether I did it or not, you don't get to decide my fate based on whether I agree that I was a bad boy or not.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 04, 2023 01:10 PM (NrEAT)

I feel just the opposite.

Posted by: polynikes at June 04, 2023 01:11 PM (MNhXM)

214 As I posted up thread I would want a path to petition restoration. So instead of waiting 10 years a good person otherwise could petition immediately on the opposite end.
Posted by: polynikes at June 04, 2023 01:10 PM (MNhXM)

that is eminently reasonable.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 04, 2023 01:12 PM (nUEj1)

215 >Shut the F up. You found me guilty? Fine, whether I did it or not, you don't get to decide my fate based on whether I agree that I was a bad boy or not.

"Red" from The Shawshank Redemption

Posted by: DB - at June 04, 2023 01:12 PM (geLO8)

216 Why are you interested in giving them such control over life and death?
Posted by: Kindltot at June 04, 2023 01:10 PM (xhaym)

Because look around you dude. Look around you. Just look.

The Lawgic Trap is avoided by just using your eyes.

Look. Look. Look.

Posted by: Thesokorus at June 04, 2023 01:13 PM (bQg5t)

217 Posted by: Kindltot at June 04, 2023 01:10 PM (xhaym)

He was talking about Kings and Queens or facsimiles thereof.

Posted by: polynikes at June 04, 2023 01:13 PM (MNhXM)

218 There is a disturbing lack of good research on the effects of marijuana use. What little there is, seems to show that pot is really damaging to young brains. But there just isn't enough out there. What I'd like to see are ways to use weed other than burning it to breathe in for a buzz.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 04, 2023 01:07 PM (0hOvj)

I do recall a study that claimed marijuana burning was more carcinogenic that tobacco burning. Something like five times more.

True or not? I don't know.

There are more studies that claim heavy use during teen years results on average in an 8 point IQ drop. Which is never recovered. Anecdotally, I can believe it.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 04, 2023 01:14 PM (NrEAT)

219 He was talking about Kings and Queens or facsimiles thereof.
Posted by: polynikes at June 04, 2023 01:13 PM (MNhXM)

But not Ace. Or one-eyed jacks.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 04, 2023 01:14 PM (nUEj1)

220 >>It means people who smoke weed or take marijuana edibles are "still federally defined as an 'unlawful user' of a controlled substance," and therefore are "prohibited from shipping, transporting, receiving, or possessing firearms or ammunition," the agency said in its release Tuesday.

Gosh, ya think the progressives considered this when encouraging legal weed?! /sarc
Feature, not a bug. Get 'em zoned out on weed, easier to control, and then take our guns.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 04, 2023 01:15 PM (mo/0F)

221 >>>"Red" from The Shawshank Redemption

Posted by: DB

>Wasn't Red the guy who was smoking too much weed and fucking his granddaughter?

Posted by: Dr. Bone at June 04, 2023 01:15 PM (KVGVf)

222 I do recall a study that claimed marijuana burning was more carcinogenic that tobacco burning. Something like five times more.

Yeah there has been some good work there.

I mean we need good studies on something to do with tobacco other than burn it, too,

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 04, 2023 01:15 PM (0hOvj)

223 Back in the day when I quit reefer, it was mostly due to instances of mild paranoia. The absolute last thing I would have wanted to do was go out and violently engage people.
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I am absolutely convinced that the weed today is way more potent than the very best of 25 years ago. To the point that I won't smoke it again unless I've grown it myself.
All the "weed is harmless" data is based on extremely outdated information.
There are no long-term studies on the use this powerful level of MJ.
We'll see, but I'll bet it ain't "chill and listen to a stack of Greatful Dead LPs"

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 04, 2023 01:15 PM (5EnGD)

224 my guess in 10 years, we gonna need a lot more drugs and booze

Posted by: REDACTED at June 04, 2023 01:16 PM (us2H3)

225 Because look around you dude. Look around you. Just look.
The Lawgic Trap is avoided by just using your eyes.
Look. Look. Look.
Posted by: Thesokorus at June 04, 2023 01:13 PM (bQg5t)

this was caused by the same people in charge that you propose to give the power to kill at will.
What makes you think they will not misuse this power like they have misused ever other. power they have taken?

I am not against killing in general. I am against giving the life of everyone I know and care for into the power to Merrick Garland or Gavin Newsome.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 04, 2023 01:16 PM (xhaym)

226 Oh, no! SF Goth is too busy to see this thread!

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 04, 2023 01:17 PM (Vwz3I)

227 I hate pot with a passion. As a rec drug. But since high level athletes use it as a tool for success in the NFL there are clearly anti-inflammatory and recuperative properties. And probably hundreds of other useful things.

But using that stuff in the amounts to get high is terrible.

Posted by: Thesokorus at June 04, 2023 01:17 PM (bQg5t)

228 >Wasn't Red the guy who was smoking too much weed and fucking his granddaughter?
Posted by: Dr. Bone at June 04, 2023 01:15 PM (KVGVf)

Red was a whitey in the book

but of course .........

Posted by: REDACTED at June 04, 2023 01:17 PM (us2H3)

229 This one in particular is the purview of the states; the Fed should have cracked down on the states allowing weed in the first place. Once they failed to do that, the Fed gave up their powers to make any kind of determination regarding other legislation.

This DC imposter government is a fustercluck that doesn't deserve any deference. Let the states become the government once again.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 04, 2023 01:17 PM (jzzG8)

230 Interesting murder aftermath story.

https://tinyurl.com/2k7puzds

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at June 04, 2023 01:18 PM (FVME7)

231 my guess in 10 years, we gonna need a lot more drugs and booze
Posted by: REDACTED

This is correct.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 04, 2023 01:18 PM (h3tqt)

232 I do recall a study that claimed marijuana burning was more carcinogenic that tobacco burning. Something like five times more.

True or not? I don't know.

It would be unreasonable to assume that inhaling concentrated smoke from burning leaves of one kind is totally harmless, when it is known that inhaling concentrated smoke from burning leaves of another kind fills your lungs with "tar" and predisposes one to lung cancer.

And watch pot smokers smoke it. They really take that hit right down into the roots of their lungs and hold it there.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 04, 2023 01:18 PM (nUEj1)

233 >Wasn't Red the guy who was smoking too much weed and fucking his granddaughter?
Posted by: Dr. Bone at June 04, 2023 01:15 PM (KVGV

Morgan Freeman is a non woke dude . I forgot about the details and other side of the story of those charges which I now have to revisit. Thanks for giving me another time wasting task 😀

Posted by: polynikes at June 04, 2023 01:18 PM (MNhXM)

234 205 Conditions of parole. I used to do some maintenance on a friend's apartment buildings. One tenant, a real character, had to do a little state time due to many DWIs. He went up before the parole board, and flat told them he was going to sit it out and come out with a clean slate. No way he was going to comply with their conditions. He said it was six months, but at least he wouldn't get busted leaving the liquor store. He understood the no driving forever, but the other stuff was too much.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at June 04, 2023 01:18 PM (lz5hY)

235 The governments thought legalizing Pot would rake money to them shows they have no idea of human nature.

Posted by: Skip at June 04, 2023 01:19 PM (xhxe8)

236 I'm a broken record on it, but our prison "system" is a mortal sin.

Just kill most felons.

Why do we as a culture love Rube Goldberg machines that make the lives of almost all people worse?
Posted by: Thesokorus at June 04, 2023 01:07 PM

Kill all felons? That's a bit extreme. As squishy as it sounds, I do think a lot of people get led into lives of crime, through lack of opportunity or mentorship. Many criminals do turn their lives around and become productive members of society.

Career/multiple offense criminals that fail to comply with the social contract get banished. Don't care where, but if they come back to the US, they get executed.

30 minute case study video I always think of: https://youtu.be/2YhxerkkHUs
Little girl, decent family, turning into a monster...but she got the very structured lifestyle and help she needed before she did something irreparable, and felt genuinely sorry and remorseful for the terrible things she had done. Successful intervention, and she's a productive member of society today.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at June 04, 2023 01:19 PM (MzJ1W)

237 I am not against killing in general. I am against giving the life of everyone I know and care for into the power to Merrick Garland or Gavin Newsome.

Theoretically it is in the hands of 12 citizens, but that has always been flawed as well.

But there are cases that are EXTREMELY clear cut and blatantly obvious, not some clever prosecutor trying to trick people.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 04, 2023 01:19 PM (0hOvj)

238 >>Jack Straw, there are a lot of arguments both sides. It is another argument like Vaccines or DDT that cannot be addressed since there is too much prestige and court settlements to ever allow a proper discussion.

I agree. I think it's absurd that the government wants to restrict anyone's rights, gun or otherwise, for use of a substance the same government is also using to legalize.

And at the same time they are not just ignoring but "celebrating" a condition that up until a few years ago the medical community was wildly in agreement was a mental illness and not restricting the rights of people who call themselves transgender at all. Just the opposite.

Most weed smokers I know are pretty mellow people not prone to violence unless attacked. Trannies are stoking confrontation and violence as a matter of course. This isn't about safety it's about restricting the rights of the undesirables.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 04, 2023 01:19 PM (ZLI7S)

239 I am not against killing in general. I am against giving the life of everyone I know and care for into the power to Merrick Garland or Gavin Newsome.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 04, 2023 01:16 PM (xhaym)

Tired of hearing some Rube Goldberg clever clever clever outsmarting trick is gonna limit the bad guys.

Look around you. Look. Look. Look.

Has any if it worked?

At all?

Posted by: Thesokorus at June 04, 2023 01:19 PM (bQg5t)

240 Posted by: Thesokorus at June 04, 2023 01:17 PM (bQg5t)

There are THC pills. But of course no enjoyment involved.

Posted by: polynikes at June 04, 2023 01:20 PM (MNhXM)

241 Shut the F up. You found me guilty? Fine, whether I did it or not, you don't get to decide my fate based on whether I agree that I was a bad boy or not.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 04, 2023 01:10 PM (NrEAT)

I feel just the opposite.
Posted by: polynikes at June 04, 2023 01:11 PM (MNhXM)

It's usually a power play. If you want to consider how I behave as an indicator of whether I'm dangerous or not, fine, but you sentence me based on the nature of the crime, not on whether I can feign remorse or not. You let me out based on the conditions of my sentence, not whether I sit in front of you fake crying and promising to be a good boy. You aren't my parent. You're an f'n parole board. Look at what I've done, look at the law. Getting your rocks off on my weepy apology is silly and pointless.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 04, 2023 01:20 PM (5jrpm)

242 >I am absolutely convinced that the weed today is way more potent than the very best of 25 years ago.

O hell yes. Some years ago, when CO legalized, I tried some out of curiosity. I asked the weed guy for one skinny joint of the mildest weed they had. Totally f***ed me up. The high I experienced is what getting punched in the face by a pro boxer must feel like, when you're totally fogged and just trying to come out of it.

Posted by: DB - at June 04, 2023 01:20 PM (geLO8)

243 >>>Wasn't Red the guy who was smoking too much weed and fucking his granddaughter?

IIRC, it was his step-granddaughter, and it was discovered when he got in a car crash w/her in the passenger seat. Permanently damaged one hand, which is now limp (you can see it in movies).

Posted by: Lizzy at June 04, 2023 01:20 PM (mo/0F)

244 If you sucked one dick back in college 29 years ago, you're a fag. For life.

Posted by: BATFE Agent at June 04, 2023 01:20 PM (KVGVf)

245 The so-called "recreational" drugs and drugs through prescription are a big reason we haven't seen the rebellion against the government oppression we're experiencing now.

We bitch about 2nd Amendment rights but still insist on consuming the substances that discourage the anger and actions to do anything, thus making the 2nd amendment moot.

A stoned society is a placid and obedient society.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at June 04, 2023 01:21 PM (BdMk6)

246 >>>I am absolutely convinced that the weed today is way more potent than the very best of 25 years ago.

Hello!?!

Posted by: FENTANYL at June 04, 2023 01:21 PM (mo/0F)

247 242 >I am absolutely convinced that the weed today is way more potent than the very best of 25 years ago.

Don't eat those edible things.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at June 04, 2023 01:21 PM (IAwid)

248 He was talking about Kings and Queens or facsimiles thereof.
Posted by: polynikes at June 04, 2023 01:13 PM (MNhXM)

We don't have Kings and Queens in America. We have Bidden, and Pelosi and Merrick Garland and the FBI and Larry Fink.
The only thing I ever agreed with Curtis Yarvin on was that a king might not screw things up worse than Nancy Pelosi.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 04, 2023 01:21 PM (xhaym)

249 >.The governments thought legalizing Pot would rake money to them shows they have no idea of human nature.

Posted by: Skip

turns out, black markets are easier, way more fun, and more profitable

Posted by: DB - at June 04, 2023 01:21 PM (geLO8)

250 Posted by: BurtTC at June 04, 2023 01:20 PM (5jrpm)

You feel the same about motivation claimed as being an important part of the case and investigation?

Posted by: polynikes at June 04, 2023 01:22 PM (MNhXM)

251 But using that stuff in the amounts to get high is terrible.

To me, its like drinking to get drunk or eating to feel a buzz because you love that kind of food. Its misuse of something. Alcohol can be beneficial but if you slug it back just to get blasted like a teenager, you're abusing it. If you smoke weed just to get stoned, you're abusing it.

The thing is that in my observation, with pot, the more you use it, the more likely you are to use it just to enjoy it. That most people who get it for "medical reasons" may very well have started using it for their rheumatism but end up need to fix their aching bones a lot more as time goes on, shall we say.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 04, 2023 01:22 PM (0hOvj)

252 Being a marijuana user doesn't preclude one from owning a vehicle. It shouldn't preclude one from owning a firearm either.

Using either while under the influence is another matter.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 04, 2023 01:22 PM (Q4IgG)

253 Posted by: Kindltot at June 04, 2023 01:21 PM (xhaym)

We have juries, appeals and advocates.

Posted by: polynikes at June 04, 2023 01:22 PM (MNhXM)

254 244 If you sucked one dick back in college 29 years ago, you're a fag. For life.

Posted by: BATFE Agent at June 04, 2023 01:20 PM (KVGVf)

If you've ever willingly sucked a dick...even for a snake bite...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 04, 2023 01:22 PM (ynpvh)

255 Conditions of parole. I used to do some maintenance on a friend's apartment buildings. One tenant, a real character, had to do a little state time due to many DWIs. He went up before the parole board, and flat told them he was going to sit it out and come out with a clean slate. No way he was going to comply with their conditions. He said it was six months, but at least he wouldn't get busted leaving the liquor store. He understood the no driving forever, but the other stuff was too much.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at June 04, 2023 01:18 PM (lz5hY)

I knew a guy who did the same, took 15 years straight up. No parole. People who knew his crime kept talking about his p.o., what does your p.o. have to say about this, and he was awfully fond of telling them to screw that, nobody was looking over his shoulder.

Right or wrong, it was better for his sense of dignity.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 04, 2023 01:23 PM (5jrpm)

256 If you've ever willingly sucked a dick...even for a snake bite...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 04, 2023 01:22 PM (ynpvh)

"The doctor said you're gonna die!"

Posted by: Just the Punchline at June 04, 2023 01:24 PM (nUEj1)

257 Successful intervention, and she's a productive member of society today.
Posted by: Moron Analyst at June 04, 2023 01:19 PM (MzJ1W)

Good. Seriously. Amen.

Now do the family who got their house broken into and their Dad shot by a repeat felon.

Which set is bigger? Reformed or subsequent victims.

No authority can have clean hands and even Aquinas accepts this.

Posted by: Thesokorus at June 04, 2023 01:24 PM (bQg5t)

258 251 But using that stuff in the amounts to get high is terrible.

To me, its like drinking to get drunk or eating to feel a buzz because you love that kind of food. Its misuse of something. Alcohol can be beneficial but if you slug it back just to get blasted like a teenager, you're abusing it. If you smoke weed just to get stoned, you're abusing it.

The thing is that in my observation, with pot, the more you use it, the more likely you are to use it just to enjoy it. That most people who get it for "medical reasons" may very well have started using it for their rheumatism but end up need to fix their aching bones a lot more as time goes on, shall we say.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 04, 2023 01:22 PM (0hOvj)

It is possible to enjoy something without abusing it.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 04, 2023 01:24 PM (ynpvh)

259 210 A Utah school district had banned the Bible in school libraries because it's "vulgar and violent." You know, unlike Dick Sucks Dicks.

https://tinyurl.com/3mvdjade

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at June 04, 2023 01:11 PM (FVME7)
----
Is there evidence that schoolkids actually checked a bible out of a library?

Posted by: Ciampino -- Never rush to judgement at June 04, 2023 01:25 PM (qfLjt)

260 A stoned society is a placid and obedient society.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at June 04, 2023 01:21 PM (BdMk6)

Soma weed

Posted by: polynikes at June 04, 2023 01:25 PM (MNhXM)

261 Kings and Queens and guillotines?

https://youtu.be/ESqYjcClK1M

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 04, 2023 01:25 PM (0hOvj)

262 I blame my drinking on the Dallas cops in the 70's and 80's

if they woulda just busted my ass a couple times, I probably wouldn't drink so much

but they would just tell me to go straight home

which I always did at 1 am

Posted by: REDACTED at June 04, 2023 01:26 PM (us2H3)

263 259 210 A Utah school district had banned the Bible in school libraries because it's "vulgar and violent." You know, unlike Dick Sucks Dicks.

https://tinyurl.com/3mvdjade

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at June 04, 2023 01:11 PM (FVME7)
----
Is there evidence that schoolkids actually checked a bible out of a library?

Posted by: Ciampino -- Never rush to judgement at June 04, 2023 01:25 PM (qfLjt)

I guess history books will be next; history is very, very violent.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 04, 2023 01:26 PM (ynpvh)

264
Someone please provide a rational answer why government permission is required to exercise an inalienable right, if you would.

The only argument for infringement I can see is the irresponsible exercise of one or more of those rights.

We already have a legal system to address these issues in place.

Posted by: irongrampa at June 04, 2023 01:26 PM (KATBx)

265 Posted by: BurtTC at June 04, 2023 01:20 PM (5jrpm)

You feel the same about motivation claimed as being an important part of the case and investigation?
Posted by: polynikes at June 04, 2023 01:22 PM (MNhXM)

I suppose I do.

You robbed the liquor store at gunpoint to feed your children? Or you did it to feed your drug addiction?

Yeah, I'm not sure why it should matter.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 04, 2023 01:27 PM (5jrpm)

266 Is the Koran banned as well? Pretty violent book there.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 04, 2023 01:27 PM (ynpvh)

267 What happened to the Pew-Pew Thread today?

Posted by: Ciampino - Maintenance-free: When it breaks, it can't be fixed at June 04, 2023 01:28 PM (qfLjt)

268 I was reading a book by Thomas Perry, who's written a lot of novels with guns in them.

He has a pair of contract killers, Paul and Sylvia, using revolvers as their go-to tool, outfitted with silencers.

He refers in one passage to a guy shooting a 30-gage rifle.

Kurt Schlichter gets his gun talk right in his novels. Not so for a number of authors.

Many of the books written with wild west gunplay from the pre-civil war era have the facts wrong, failing to do black powder and saying "cartridges."

Posted by: Mr Gaga at June 04, 2023 01:28 PM (4ZE6o)

269 264
Someone please provide a rational answer why government permission is required to exercise an inalienable right, if you would.

The only argument for infringement I can see is the irresponsible exercise of one or more of those rights.

We already have a legal system to address these issues in place.

Posted by: irongrampa at June 04, 2023 01:26 PM (KATBx)

Because...you and what army are gonna stop me?

Posted by: Federal Leviathan at June 04, 2023 01:28 PM (ynpvh)

270 Those who take innocent lives should expect to forfeit their

Posted by: Skip at June 04, 2023 01:28 PM (xhxe8)

271 Hilarious timing given the ZH article I just came from.

Posted by: SFGoth at June 04, 2023 01:28 PM (KAi1n)

272 Is the Koran banned as well? Pretty violent book there.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 04, 2023 01:27 PM (ynpvh)

What do you have against Koreans?

Posted by: polynikes at June 04, 2023 01:29 PM (MNhXM)

273 Is the Koran banned as well? Pretty violent book there.

Some leftist loon upset that parents are getting graphic sexual content removed from school libraries demanded that the Bible be removed from the school library. Cause it has sexual content (in very poetic and unobvious forms) and violence.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 04, 2023 01:29 PM (0hOvj)

274 Is there a connection between those pushing to legalize Marijuana use and those pushing to normalize trannies?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 04, 2023 01:29 PM (5EnGD)

275 We have juries, appeals and advocates.
Posted by: polynikes at June 04, 2023 01:22 PM (MNhXM)

Yep. And how is that working for us? The only reason Rittenhouse got that not guilty is because the judge hated the BLM worse than gun rights.

the courts are political, uninterested and venal. Pray you are never up in front of one charged by the representatives of the people

Posted by: Kindltot at June 04, 2023 01:30 PM (xhaym)

276 Well, I’ll just say about marijuana. It smells disgusting and it smells far worse than tobacco

And since it’s oil based it sticks, doesn’t wash off, and revaporizes when it’s hot. So the damn stuff “sticks” around.

It’s just gross

Posted by: Justin Castreau at June 04, 2023 01:30 PM (5YDX5)

277 It is possible to enjoy something without abusing it.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 04, 2023 01:24 PM (ynpvh)

On a related note, why do women like getting their hair pulled during sex? I don't get it. At all.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 04, 2023 01:30 PM (5jrpm)

278 272 Is the Koran banned as well? Pretty violent book there.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 04, 2023 01:27 PM (ynpvh)

What do you have against Koreans?

Posted by: polynikes at June 04, 2023 01:29 PM (MNhXM)

Not much, except the Northern ones, and only then, their leadership and military.
I have a ex-SIL that's Korean.
I like Bulgogi and Kimchi. Sue me for cultural appropriation, if you'd like.

Posted by: Federal Leviathan at June 04, 2023 01:31 PM (ynpvh)

279 A stoned society is a placid and obedient society.

And this is the real impetus for legalization: to create a population of docile zombies the government does not have to negotiate with when enacting its tyrannical edicts. Which is why the equivalence between marijuana and alcohol is false. Whatever one wants to say about drunks, docility is not one of the traits of alcoholics.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 04, 2023 01:31 PM (KFhLj)

280 It is extremely difficult to execute a criminal these days, even in Texas.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 04, 2023 01:31 PM (0hOvj)

281 It's sunny and windy today at the beach. And a minus 3ft tide.

Time to smoke a fatty and go for a walk. Good thing range day was yesterday!

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 04, 2023 01:31 PM (q9vYD)

282 277 It is possible to enjoy something without abusing it.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 04, 2023 01:24 PM (ynpvh)

On a related note, why do women like getting their hair pulled during sex? I don't get it. At all.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 04, 2023 01:30 PM (5jrpm)

I think that's *some* women.

Posted by: Federal Leviathan at June 04, 2023 01:31 PM (ynpvh)

283 >What happened to the Pew-Pew Thread today?

Posted by: Ciampino

that event occurs in the future

Posted by: DB - at June 04, 2023 01:31 PM (geLO8)

284 On a related note, why do women like getting their hair pulled during sex? I don't get it. At all.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 04, 2023 01:30 PM (5jrpm)

those aren't women

Posted by: REDACTED at June 04, 2023 01:32 PM (us2H3)

285 >>Some leftist loon upset that parents are getting graphic sexual content removed from school libraries demanded that the Bible be removed from the school library. Cause it has sexual content (in very poetic and unobvious forms) and violence.

Yup. Petty retaliation against Christians who - get this! - don't want deviant sex instruction manuals available to their elementary school kids in public schools. What this person fails to see is they are confirming their values are their religion by likening these banned books to the Bible, lol.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 04, 2023 01:33 PM (mo/0F)

286 283 >What happened to the Pew-Pew Thread today?

Posted by: Ciampino

that event occurs in the future

Posted by: DB - at June 04, 2023 01:31 PM (geLO

Would time travel make a sentence like:
"That event occured in the future."
Possible?

Posted by: Federal Leviathan at June 04, 2023 01:33 PM (ynpvh)

287 There are over 800 people in prison right now for homicide that were previously in prison for homicide.

Posted by: polynikes at June 04, 2023 01:33 PM (MNhXM)

288 ...It is possible to enjoy something without abusing it.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 04, 2023 01:24 PM (ynpvh)

Kinda makes ya wonder where ol' Masturbatin' Pete is, these days. Ain't seen that nic here in the comments in ages.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at June 04, 2023 01:33 PM (e6UQI)

289 287 There are over 800 people in prison right now for homicide that were previously in prison for homicide.

Posted by: polynikes at June 04, 2023 01:33 PM (MNhXM)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CduA0TULnow

Posted by: Federal Leviathan at June 04, 2023 01:34 PM (ynpvh)

290 What this person fails to see is they are confirming their values are their religion by likening these banned books to the Bible, lol.

Basically. But from their perspective its just a kick in the teeth of normal decent people for daring to question their perverted ideology. It never works, beyond getting some publicity.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 04, 2023 01:34 PM (0hOvj)

291 Get back to me when they throw Biden's crackhead son into prison for lying on a form.

Posted by: huerfano at June 04, 2023 01:35 PM (7zEAH)

292 As an adult, I do not want my recreational substance choices limited by what kids may do. If that were the case, your preferred drug (alcohol) should be legal too. Frankly, our entire society would be better off if we made all recreational drugs (alcohol, pot, uppers, downers, psychedelics) illegal and executed users. Want to get high? Exercise. But very, very few of you would be willing to give up your drink for the betterment of society. As I say, when it comes to *your* drug, hands off. Oh, and the Bible/Old Testament says something about plants are for our use.

Posted by: SFGoth at June 04, 2023 01:35 PM (KAi1n)

293 Selective prosecution. Only Republican, conservatives, Trump supporters will be investigated and/or prosecuted using this law. Antifa and BLM will be as exempt from this law as they were from all laws during the Summer of Love.

Posted by: Mondor at June 04, 2023 01:35 PM (skWic)

294 288 ...It is possible to enjoy something without abusing it.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 04, 2023 01:24 PM (ynpvh)

Kinda makes ya wonder where ol' Masturbatin' Pete is, these days. Ain't seen that nic here in the comments in ages.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at June 04, 2023 01:33 PM (e6UQI)

Probably busy...doin' somethin'.

Posted by: Federal Leviathan at June 04, 2023 01:35 PM (ynpvh)

295 off gov't sock.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 04, 2023 01:36 PM (ynpvh)

296 Well, I’ll just say about marijuana. It smells disgusting and it smells far worse than tobacco

And since it’s oil based it sticks, doesn’t wash off, and revaporizes when it’s hot. So the damn stuff “sticks” around.

It’s just gross
Posted by: Justin Castreau at June 04, 2023 01:30 PM (5YDX5)

Interestingly, the ex vaped all the time. ALL. THE. TIME.

So I'm having the house painted before selling, and the painter says he's had a helluva time getting his tape to stick to the floorboads, windowsills, etc. I asked if I thought it might be from the residue, and he didn't think so.

I think so.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 04, 2023 01:36 PM (azC9v)

297 On a related note, why do women like getting their hair pulled during sex? I don't get it. At all.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 04, 2023 01:30 PM (5jrpm)

Hah the thing is what women like during sex is a moving target that changes depending on the mood. It's not an exact science for sure.

Posted by: polynikes at June 04, 2023 01:36 PM (MNhXM)

298 [nonsense deleted]

Paul,
I don't come to your place of business and slap the dicks of your customers out of your mouth, so I would appreciate it if you didn't disturb Ace's blog with your objectively incorrect blather.

Posted by: Paul at June 04, 2023 01:37 PM (f6ImC)

299 >>Basically. But from their perspective its just a kick in the teeth of normal decent people for daring to question their perverted ideology. It never works, beyond getting some publicity.

Agreed. Cutesy activism, an attempt at Alinsky #4 and #6.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 04, 2023 01:37 PM (mo/0F)

300 292 As an adult, I do not want my recreational substance choices limited by what kids may do. If that were the case, your preferred drug (alcohol) should be legal too. Frankly, our entire society would be better off if we made all recreational drugs (alcohol, pot, uppers, downers, psychedelics) illegal and executed users. Want to get high? Exercise. But very, very few of you would be willing to give up your drink for the betterment of society. As I say, when it comes to *your* drug, hands off. Oh, and the Bible/Old Testament says something about plants are for our use.

Posted by: SFGoth at June 04, 2023 01:35 PM (KAi1n)

We tried that with Prohibition (to some degree); Feds even poisoned ethanol that killed >10,000 people estimated.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 04, 2023 01:37 PM (ynpvh)

301 It is extremely difficult to execute a criminal these days, even in Texas.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 04, 2023 01:31 PM (0hOvj)

Not in OK. We're getting it done.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at June 04, 2023 01:37 PM (BdMk6)

302 296 Well, I’ll just say about marijuana. It smells disgusting and it smells far worse than tobacco

And since it’s oil based it sticks, doesn’t wash off, and revaporizes when it’s hot. So the damn stuff “sticks” around.

It’s just gross
Posted by: Justin Castreau at June 04, 2023 01:30 PM (5YDX5)

Interestingly, the ex vaped all the time. ALL. THE. TIME.

So I'm having the house painted before selling, and the painter says he's had a helluva time getting his tape to stick to the floorboads, windowsills, etc. I asked if I thought it might be from the residue, and he didn't think so.

I think so.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 04, 2023 01:36 PM (azC9v)

If you had teenage boys, might be something else...
Blacklight time?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 04, 2023 01:38 PM (ynpvh)

303 Zelensky admits he's afraid of Trump becoming President again

I'll bet he is

he was part of the impeachment con

Posted by: REDACTED at June 04, 2023 01:38 PM (us2H3)

304 If drug users can own guns, just who cannot?

Posted by: Paul at June 04, 2023 01:38 PM (f6ImC)

305 We tried that with Prohibition (to some degree); Feds even poisoned ethanol that killed >10,000 people estimated.

Its really tough to get solid numbers, because less than decent people were making booze from wood alcohol which can be lethal.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 04, 2023 01:39 PM (0hOvj)

306 297 On a related note, why do women like getting their hair pulled during sex? I don't get it. At all.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 04, 2023 01:30 PM (5jrpm)

Hah the thing is what women like during sex is a moving target that changes depending on the mood. It's not an exact science for sure.

Posted by: polynikes at June 04, 2023 01:36 PM (MNhXM)

This woman didn't enjoy her hair being pulled...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-EF60neguk

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 04, 2023 01:39 PM (ynpvh)

307 those aren't women
Posted by: REDACTED at June 04, 2023 01:32 PM (us2H3)

They are. Maybe not SANE women, but trust me...

Now, I have only data from a relatively small sample size, so I'm not even sure it's fair to say it's only insane women. One I know was, that's for sure.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 04, 2023 01:40 PM (azC9v)

308 It's odd it isn't even a conversation at the Federal level. I would think some genius would say: "Well, it's a Federally controlled substance, so, remit a 38% tax to us, Mr. Dispensary..."

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at June 04, 2023 01:40 PM (7Fj9P)

309 305 We tried that with Prohibition (to some degree); Feds even poisoned ethanol that killed >10,000 people estimated.

Its really tough to get solid numbers, because less than decent people were making booze from wood alcohol which can be lethal.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 04, 2023 01:39 PM (0hOvj)

The Gov't purposefully poisoned ethanol so that people couldn't drink it. Look it up.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 04, 2023 01:40 PM (ynpvh)

310 Master of comprehension is here.

Posted by: BignJames at June 04, 2023 01:40 PM (AwYPR)

311 The problem with the feds busting pot users is you still need a jury to convict. In California, good luck with that. It's probably a malicious prosecution to do so.

Posted by: SFGoth at June 04, 2023 01:40 PM (KAi1n)

312 Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 04, 2023 01:39 PM (ynpvh)

Hah !

Posted by: polynikes at June 04, 2023 01:40 PM (MNhXM)

313 @ 269
The same people who stopped the British leviathan the first time suppression was attempted will halt this one.

We have a proven record throughout our history of meeting and prevailing over similar, equally serious issues.

Look it up and refute that if you disbelieve me.

Posted by: irongrampa at June 04, 2023 01:41 PM (KATBx)

314 Time to smoke a fatty and go for a walk. Good thing range day was yesterday!

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 04, 2023 01:31 PM (q9vYD)

You are going to shoot some obese person? That doesn't seem sporting...they can't run fast!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 04, 2023 01:41 PM (ZCCyW)

315 I also thought Isopropyl made you go blind because it caused swelling around the optic nerve, killing it.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 04, 2023 01:41 PM (ynpvh)

316 Posted by: BurtTC at June 04, 2023 01:36 PM (azC9v)

If you had teenage boys, might be something else...
Blacklight time?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 04, 2023 01:38 PM (ynpvh)

Heh, no. That wasn't it.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 04, 2023 01:41 PM (azC9v)

317 >>If drug users can own guns, just who cannot?

Convicted felons

Posted by: Lizzy at June 04, 2023 01:41 PM (mo/0F)

318 Buy too much of it in any given month, and they CAN charge you with some sort of meth making charge.
Posted by: BurtTC

Who TF goes to the trouble of buying sudafed to make meth anymore? You'll run into so much of it on the street while you're out scoring your sudafed.

Posted by: SFGoth at June 04, 2023 01:42 PM (KAi1n)

319 The Gov't purposefully poisoned ethanol so that people couldn't drink it. Look it up.

Sure, I didn't question that. I only suggested that finding out exactly how many were killed by the government is difficult because of other sources of alcohol poisoning.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 04, 2023 01:42 PM (0hOvj)

320 Now, I have only data from a relatively small sample size, so I'm not even sure it's fair to say it's only insane women. One I know was, that's for sure.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 04, 2023 01:40 PM (azC9v)

well, I've got data from a relatively large sample and not one of them wanted their hair pulled

hot tub, Luther and VSOP

Posted by: REDACTED at June 04, 2023 01:42 PM (us2H3)

321 ...Many of the books written with wild west gunplay from the pre-civil war era have the facts wrong, failing to do black powder and saying "cartridges." Posted by: Mr Gaga at June 04, 2023 01:28 PM (4ZE6o)

The .45 Colt (sometimes called .45 Long Colt), .44-40 and .30-30 Winchester, all started their service as blackpowder cartridges.

That they survived and thrived into the smokeless powder era is a testament to the soundness of their design.

Exception being the .45 Colt, which was pressure-limited well into the 20th century, because the original "balloon-head" case rim design could easily rupture under smokeless powder pressures. It wasn't until the 1980s that most ammo manufacturers started (routinely) producing higher-pressure .45 Colt rounds, as most of the ancient "balloon-head" cases had disappeared from common use.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at June 04, 2023 01:42 PM (e6UQI)

322 Its really tough to get solid numbers, because less than decent people were making booze from wood alcohol which can be lethal.
=======================
They still do that in the Caribbean/Mexico/Central America et al. ALWAYS know what you're drinking, esp. off resort.
"Why am I so hungover??"
B/c you were poisoned.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at June 04, 2023 01:43 PM (7Fj9P)

323 This woman didn't enjoy her hair being pulled...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-EF60neguk
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 04, 2023 01:39 PM (ynpvh)

Oh, she's Irish, so she has her own version of insanity.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 04, 2023 01:43 PM (azC9v)

324 317 >>If drug users can own guns, just who cannot?

Convicted felons
Posted by: Lizzy at June 04, 2023 01:41 PM (mo/0F)

lmao

Posted by: REDACTED at June 04, 2023 01:43 PM (us2H3)

325 313 @ 269
The same people who stopped the British leviathan the first time suppression was attempted will halt this one.

We have a proven record throughout our history of meeting and prevailing over similar, equally serious issues.

Look it up and refute that if you disbelieve me.

Posted by: irongrampa at June 04, 2023 01:41 PM (KATBx)

Today we have more than one generation inculcated in the belief that Gov't = good, guns = bad. I'm sure there are plenty of people out there that would rat out their parents and grandparents happily.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 04, 2023 01:43 PM (ynpvh)

326 On a related note, why do women like getting their hair pulled during sex? I don't get it. At all.
Posted by: BurtTC

How many partners are you basing this on?
Could it be that you initiate the hair pulling and your partners think that's what you enjoy?

Posted by: old chick at June 04, 2023 01:43 PM (sOete)

327 Posted by: FENTANYL at June 04, 2023 01:21 PM (mo/0F)
------------
Too stoned to type mo/Fo correctly!

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 04, 2023 01:44 PM (Vwz3I)

328 300 292 As an adult, I do not want my recreational substance choices limited by what kids may do. If that were the case, your preferred drug (alcohol) should be legal too. Frankly, our entire society would be better off if we made all recreational drugs (alcohol, pot, uppers, downers, psychedelics) illegal and executed users. Want to get high? Exercise. But very, very few of you would be willing to give up your drink for the betterment of society. As I say, when it comes to *your* drug, hands off. Oh, and the Bible/Old Testament says something about plants are for our use.

Posted by: SFGoth at June 04, 2023 01:35 PM (KAi1n)

I don't disagree as much as I hate pot. Drug abuse is downstream of other issues.

At the same time Prohibition was a response to a horrible societal problem.

People with rewarding lives and hope don't abuse drugs very frequently.

I also don't think ppl should be allowed to profit off things that ppl use to harm themselves.

And our society is functionally one where everyone is surrounded by industries that profit off human self-destruction.

Posted by: Thesokorus at June 04, 2023 01:44 PM (bQg5t)

329 Posted by: Paul

Please go into your basement and see about suck-starting something, something, something.
You'll be doing the world and your mother who is supporting you a big favor.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 04, 2023 01:44 PM (d9J/h)

330 @314

Obese people provide great examples of attaining proper shot placement for maximum effect.

Posted by: irongrampa at June 04, 2023 01:45 PM (KATBx)

331 I have seen a bunch of short videos showing a guy coming up to a girl faced away from him and pulling her hair gently, and she turns around like he invited her on his yacht. It must have some positive effect on the woman's psyche.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 04, 2023 01:45 PM (0hOvj)

332 Who TF goes to the trouble of buying sudafed to make meth anymore? You'll run into so much of it on the street while you're out scoring your sudafed.
Posted by: SFGoth at June 04, 2023 01:42 PM (KAi1n)

True, the guy I know who was busted for it, that was years ago.

Same with fentanyl, really. Why in the world would you be trying to extract it from patches anymore, but people did that not too many years ago. Lots of them died because of it.

The power of supply and demand, I suppose. Casualties before they got it "right," but someone had to be the first into the breach, so....

Posted by: BurtTC at June 04, 2023 01:45 PM (azC9v)

333 Could it be that you initiate the hair pulling and your partners think that's what you enjoy?

Posted by: old chick at June 04, 2023 01:43 PM (sOete)

Zing!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 04, 2023 01:46 PM (ZCCyW)

334 "We don't have Kings and Queens in America. We have Bidden, and Pelosi and Merrick Garland and the FBI and Larry Fink."

From 2 Thessalonians 2:
Now concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered together to Him, we ask you, brothers, not to be easily disconcerted or alarmed by any spirit or message or letter seeming to be from us, alleging that the Day of the Lord has already come. Let no one deceive you in any way, for it will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness—the son of destruction—is revealed. He will oppose and exalt himself above every so-called god or object of worship. So he will seat himself in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God.

Do you not remember that I told you these things while I was still with you? And you know what is now restraining him, so that he may be revealed at the proper time. For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work, but the one who now restrains it will continue until he is taken out of the way. And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will slay with the breath of His mouth and annihilate by the majesty of His arrival.

Posted by: Gref at June 04, 2023 01:46 PM (AMIL/)

335 331 I have seen a bunch of short videos showing a guy coming up to a girl faced away from him and pulling her hair gently, and she turns around like he invited her on his yacht. It must have some positive effect on the woman's psyche.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 04, 2023 01:45 PM (0hOvj)

Sure that wasn't a porno?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 04, 2023 01:47 PM (ynpvh)

336 Could it be that you initiate the hair pulling and your partners think that's what you enjoy?
Posted by: old chick at June 04, 2023 01:43 PM (sOete)

No. That's not it. At all.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 04, 2023 01:47 PM (azC9v)

337 336 Could it be that you initiate the hair pulling and your partners think that's what you enjoy?
Posted by: old chick at June 04, 2023 01:43 PM (sOete)

No. That's not it. At all.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 04, 2023 01:47 PM (azC9v)

And no woman has ever faked it.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 04, 2023 01:48 PM (ynpvh)

338 Interestingly, the ex vaped all the time. ALL. THE. TIME.

So I'm having the house painted before selling, and the painter says he's had a helluva time getting his tape to stick to the floorboads, windowsills, etc. I asked if I thought it might be from the residue, and he didn't think so.

I think so.

Posted by: BurtTC

It depends. Nicotine uses a water base and shouldn’t (theoretically! I don’t vape!) leave am oily residue.

But a lot of folks will vape thc or weird flavorings (and thc needs an oil base). That will cause problems. You’ll end up needing an expensive zinzer paint to cover it up.

FWIW, I have some energy assessments on multiple Mari J farms. Great folks. Super friendly.

But I could smell the MJ a mile away. And I would always stink if MJ on the long drive home and the shower would revaporize the oil and I would smell it all over again.

But my wife says I have the nose of a bloodhound

🐶

Posted by: Justin Castreau at June 04, 2023 01:49 PM (5YDX5)

339 Amazing how we went from guns & drugs to hair pulling...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 04, 2023 01:49 PM (ynpvh)

340 Decriminalize it, allow people to grow for personal use, absolutely no edibles. It's pointless to do long term studies. They did one that said pot causes more lung cancer than cigarettes. It's just not true. There are true medicinal uses for it

The push for stronger strains is part of the legalization push. And that's based on the greed of states for tax revenue. I loved the way we closed the state run liquor stores im WA. The bureaucrats just put them in charge of the pot stores.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 04, 2023 01:49 PM (ouTlx)

341 336 Could it be that you initiate the hair pulling and your partners think that's what you enjoy?
Posted by: old chick at June 04, 2023 01:43 PM (sOete)

No. That's not it. At all.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 04, 2023 01:47 PM (azC9v)

And no woman has ever faked it.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

It was just a thought, not a criticism.

Posted by: old chick at June 04, 2023 01:50 PM (sOete)

342 And no woman has ever faked it.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 04, 2023 01:48 PM (ynpvh)

I sometimes get accused of talking too much about my ex here, but I think it's somewhat illustrative. She was crazy, and yes, she "faked it."

By which I mean, she faked being a kind, decent human being. She wasn't/isn't. She wanted her hair pulled. I didn't like doing it, ever, but tried to accommodate her a few times, and was criticized for not pulling hard enough.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 04, 2023 01:51 PM (azC9v)

343 Didn’t the rat in ratatouille control the cook by pulling his hair?

Obviously there must be some truth to this!!!

Posted by: Justin Castreau at June 04, 2023 01:51 PM (5YDX5)

344 338

...But my wife says I have the nose of a bloodhound

🐶

Posted by: Justin Castreau at June 04, 2023 01:49 PM (5YDX5)

I tend to be like that with coffee (taste) and tobacco (smell). Wife had an ice cream cake once, took a bite, asked if there was coffee in it; wife said no, but it was near the end of the ingredient list. I could taste the coffee bitterness.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 04, 2023 01:51 PM (ynpvh)

345 Cbd, you are making the huge assumption that laws will be applied to democrats and their constituents. That hasn't been the case for years now.

Posted by: Beckoningchasm phone at June 04, 2023 01:52 PM (HpVjy)

346 343 Didn’t the rat in ratatouille control the cook by pulling his hair?

Obviously there must be some truth to this!!!

Posted by: Justin Castreau at June 04, 2023 01:51 PM (5YDX5)

Disney movies are full of...something these days.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 04, 2023 01:52 PM (ynpvh)

347 It is funny to me when women pretend to be ignorant of other female sexual preferences.

Posted by: Thesokorus at June 04, 2023 01:52 PM (bQg5t)

348 345 Cbd, you are making the huge assumption that laws will be applied to democrats and their constituents. That hasn't been the case for years now.

Posted by: Beckoningchasm phone at June 04, 2023 01:52 PM (HpVjy)

Hell, engaging in legally-protected activities can get you arrested by the FIB these days.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 04, 2023 01:53 PM (ynpvh)

349 And the Biden WH is poised to argue on our side, to protect Hunter from prosecution of course.
Posted by: Ignoramus

Welll, he smokes crack, not pot. So no.

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at June 04, 2023 01:55 PM (lkP6b)

350 I tend to be like that with coffee (taste) and tobacco (smell). Wife had an ice cream cake once, took a bite, asked if there was coffee in it; wife said no, but it was near the end of the ingredient list. I could taste the coffee bitterness.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 04, 2023 01:51 PM (ynpvh)

I love coffee, but don't like it in other things. I've had cakes where coffee was an ingredient. It's off-putting. And obvious when it's there.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 04, 2023 01:55 PM (azC9v)

351 I have seen a bunch of short videos showing a guy coming up to a girl faced away from him and pulling her hair gently, and she turns around like he invited her on his yacht. It must have some positive effect on the woman's psyche.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 04, 2023 01:45 PM (0hOvj)

Sure that wasn't a porno?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia

While "Brandy" was playing in the background.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 04, 2023 01:56 PM (h3tqt)

352 I never smoked crack but edibles, maybe a few

Posted by: REDACTED at June 04, 2023 01:56 PM (us2H3)

353 Cbd, you are making the huge assumption that laws will be applied to democrats and their constituents. That hasn't been the case for years now.

Posted by: Beckoningchasm phone at June 04, 2023 01:52 PM (HpVjy)

Well...it's Sunday, so maybe my jaded view of the world has been lessened somewhat by the calmness of the weekend!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 04, 2023 01:56 PM (ZCCyW)

354 Thinking about Vikek Ramaswamy?

Think again:

https://tinyurl.com/rukrnv5f

(Nitter)

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 04, 2023 01:57 PM (YwvIc)

355 I've had cakes where coffee was an ingredient.

I like coffee in stuff, but it has to be made right. Usually instant works better than brewing some up or using the beans.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 04, 2023 01:57 PM (0hOvj)

356 Sure that wasn't a porno?

Well there wasn't any sex or nudity, so if it was porn, it was lousy porn.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 04, 2023 01:59 PM (0hOvj)

357 306 297 On a related note, why do women like getting their hair pulled during sex? I don't get it. At all.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 04, 2023 01:30 PM (5jrpm)

This woman didn't enjoy her hair being pulled...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-EF60neguk
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 04, 2023 01:39 PM

And arm pulling is STRICTLY forbidden!

Posted by: Michelle Fields at June 04, 2023 01:59 PM (JCZqz)

358 Could it be that you initiate the hair pulling and your partners think that's what you enjoy?

Posted by: old chick at June 04, 2023 01:43 PM (sOete)

Zing!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

Maybe a zinger, but a rational and objective observation.
Definitely something to be tested.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 04, 2023 01:59 PM (NXGg0)

359 A Utah school district had banned the Bible in school libraries because it's "vulgar and violent." You know, unlike Dick Sucks Dicks.

https://tinyurl.com/3mvdjade

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at June 04, 2023 01:11 PM (FVME7)
-

Bring 'Em Young University?

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 04, 2023 02:00 PM (YwvIc)

360 Yes, my preferred models...don't cars for striker fired.

Posted by: BignJames at June 04, 2023 12:08 PM (AwYPR)

Agreed! The only AD's I've ever had were striker fired pistols. Ugh. I think they're unsafe.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at June 04, 2023 02:00 PM (5NwhH)

361 We have a Nood and a movie

Posted by: Skip at June 04, 2023 02:01 PM (xhxe8)

362 nood cheapskate

Posted by: Gref at June 04, 2023 02:01 PM (AMIL/)

363 I'm more worried about the 100 million 3rd worlders and other high violence groups obtaining guns than non violent law abiding groups vapping or eating an edible at night or to relive inflammation and pain or treat PTSD. Same with mushrooms, which in the south growing up you could pick at your local cow field.
Hell, we used to be a proper country when you could buy opium, cocaine, and a gun. Less violence and more order back then. Not advocating for coke and opium just making a point.

Bringing back millions and millions of factory jobs would help with the drug problem as well.

Posted by: Ole Anderson at June 04, 2023 02:02 PM (LWRBt)

364 I believe that in Illinois, if you go to a dope dispensary, you have to forfeit a FOID card. Again, I kind of enjoy the spectacle of potheads getting duped by their own hubris.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at June 04, 2023 02:02 PM (7O5fj)

365 There are deleterious effects to pot, period. All you stoners and casual users can fool yourself all,you want. That said I drink and understand the negatives therein so , let it roll, all of it, let's get this party going. And at the same time, stop the tobacco persecution too. Get fat, drunk, stoned, whatever.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at June 04, 2023 02:03 PM (oWBc3)

366 Amazing how we went from guns & drugs to hair pulling...

Wait long enough and anything is possible here at the HQ.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at June 04, 2023 02:06 PM (Xrfse)

367 >>And the Biden WH is poised to argue on our side, to protect Hunter from prosecution of course.

He lied on his gun application.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 04, 2023 02:07 PM (mo/0F)

368 Well, I get pissed when I take my family to a beach and I have to smell someone lighting up their stank. Can’t enjoy a day at the beach without oiling up your substandard brain?

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at June 04, 2023 02:07 PM (7O5fj)

369 Run Lizzo Run!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 04, 2023 02:08 PM (63Dwl)

370 Oklahoma has "medical" marijuana "dispensaries," and just about anybody can find a doc to "prescribe." OTOH, Oklahoma voted down recreational pot, every county voting "no." The proposal mentioned the federal law problem!

Oklahoma used to have strict post-prohib liquor laws. In counties that weren't dry, the rules on serving were convoluted. BYOB to the "club," you get assigned a number, the bar is permitted to only serve you from your bottle, and can replace your bottle, that's it. Naturally, such a stupid arrangement became a joke. Bring in the smallest bottle of whatever you prefer, then they just poured and served from their own bottles, anything you want.

One day, the Okla AG decided to crack down and enforce the liq law and start busting clubs. IIRC The vote to change the law, repeal BYOB & club stuff, passed swiftly and overwhelmingly.

So with that model, I've been all-for the Feds cracking down on states allowing pot at all, much less with "weapons in the commission of a felony," 'tho the Fed law won't likely be changed as swiftly as OK bars.

Meanwhile, no med pot for the author of Head Shop Comix. [Eliza Doolittle voice:] I'm a good lad, I aam. (comic in link)

Posted by: mindful webworker - high on life at June 04, 2023 02:09 PM (F1ISQ)

371 Hair pulling is a sport.

Posted by: Ole Anderson at June 04, 2023 02:11 PM (LWRBt)

372 It's even weirder when you cross the border. It's legal (more or less, these days) in U.S. states and their counterpart Canadian provinces. But it is not legal to import or export as it is still a Schedule 1 substance.

Posted by: George Waterhouse at June 04, 2023 02:30 PM (vKU78)

373 Sure that wasn't a porno?

Well there wasn't any sex or nudity, so if it was porn, it was lousy porn.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 04, 2023 01:59 PM (0hOvj)

Gov't made?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 04, 2023 02:49 PM (Angsy)

374 Federal law proscribes illegal immigration and we're not doing shit to curb that, so until we start doing literally anything about the flood of unvetted invaders coming across the southern border, I'll keep owning guns while occasionally smoking a bowl. Y'all can kiss my fucking taint.

Posted by: ballistic at June 04, 2023 03:47 PM (oXNqT)

375 I think that the headline is tge ATF overreaching again. That drug use is disqualifying is a part of the 4473 requirements to buy a gun from a dealer has nothing to do with continuing ownership of a gun should you then use drugs, and AFAIK, there are no Federal laws or regulations as to ownership or possession of ammunition.
Though I'm sure that they would lije to have them.
This sounds like battlespace preparation for the Feds to pass such laws after convincing the low-infos that such laws already exist.

Posted by: John in Indy at June 04, 2023 05:19 PM (s5mG6)

376 Hmmmm....could a State pass a law saying that an ATF / FBI background check wasn't required to buy a gun in that state?
Meaning that enforcement was entirely the Feds problem/ responsibility?

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