Daily Tech News 30 May 2023

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AI makes shit up. (PowerLine)
Crawford H. "Chet" Taylor served as the 14th governor of South Dakota, from 1949 to 1951. Taylor was born on July 23, 1915, in Sioux Falls, South Dakota, and he grew up in nearby Flandreau. Taylor attended the University of South Dakota, where he earned a law degree.
Of course, this is ChatGPT "hallucinating" again. Chet Taylor not only was never elected governor of South Dakota, no such person ever existed.

While Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang is announcing incomprehensibly expensive AI supercomputers at Computex, the actual results of generative AI - in the field of language and information, where all the interest and the big money is right now - are frankly, shit.

Things are looking much better when it comes to AI-generated art, because there the look of the thing is what matters. Is that a period-accurate representation of 2nd century Rome in the background behind the topless gladiatrix? Nobody cares, so long as it looks good.

Well, one person cares. We'll get to him.

And Chet Taylor looks good too. He's just not real. And since ChatGPT can't sustain a hallucination long enough to form a coherent short story, just for a couple of paragraphs, it's utterly valueless.

Nvidia still has a valuation greater than AMD and Intel combined, but at least one corner of that market cap is built on sand.

Tech News

Computex - the world's largest computer industry show - is back after a three-year Bat Flu hiatus, and there's an absolute flood of announcements to catch up with. (The Verge)

Just kidding. There ain't shit.
Solana's founder sees potential for it to become the "Apple of crypto". (Tech Crunch)

I've mentioned before that my job involves practical applications of blockchains, and I've worked with Solana.

It's crap.
MediaTek's next high-end chip could contain four Cortex X4 cores and drop the low-power cores entirely. (Notebook Check)

If this comes to a laptop it could finally be worth checking out. Earlier attempts at Arm-based PCs have been pretty sad affairs.
A professor who was stitched up by the FBI has won the right to sue the government. (NBC News)

Xiaoxing Xi was arrested in 2015 on charges of fraud related to economic espionage, but the case folded like a damp tissue when it went to court thanks to the FBI basically just making shit up.

As they do.
What kind of idiot would buy a DRAMless PCIe 5 SSD? (AnandTech)

You'd only buy a PCIe 5 SSD if you needed the absolute best speed you can get, and most of the time you'd be better off with a regular PCIe 4 SSD with a DRAM cache than a more expensive PCIe 5 model without.

That One Person Who Cares Video of the Day

He actually discusses the historicity of topless Roman gladiatrices in another video (spoiler: they were real, and spectacular). Here he's just debunking the notion - nearly Jaynesian in its vapidity - that the ancient Greeks couldn't see the colour blue.

Well-researched and well-argued, including a deconstruction of an old RadioLab episode that I had assumed was largely accurate. He is careful to address the argument rather than attacking the arguer except in the case of the BBC, who just made shit up and fully deserve it.

Disclaimer: It's doesn't look blue, it just looks like it looks blue.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at 04:15 AM

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1 hiya

Posted by: JT at May 30, 2023 04:19 AM (T4tVD)

2 G'Day everyone
Late start today

Posted by: Skip at May 30, 2023 04:22 AM (xhxe8)

3 G'day all. Back to the soap mines.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at May 30, 2023 04:23 AM (BLOW1)

4 G'day all!

Posted by: Lost In Space at May 30, 2023 04:23 AM (a175k)

5 the case folded like a damp tissue when it went to court thanks to the FBI basically just making shit up.

So the FBI is a front for ChatGPT? What do you bet Chet Taylor is about become an FBI agent?

Posted by: Lost In Space at May 30, 2023 04:24 AM (a175k)

6 G'day all

Posted by: Ciampino -- Cats everywhere at May 30, 2023 04:25 AM (qfLjt)

7 BOING!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 30, 2023 04:26 AM (Dzf2t)

8 >>>AI makes shit up. (PowerLine)

And I wonder if this is what's infecting web searches.
Example:

force of nature

Collins Dictionary
https://www.collinsdictionary.com › dictionary › english
Force of nature definition: If someone forces you to do something, they make you do it even though you do not want...

Posted by: m at May 30, 2023 04:29 AM (AOrJZ)

9 So Pixy, today's theme is SHIT?
LOL

Posted by: Ciampino --- Cats everywhere at May 30, 2023 04:30 AM (qfLjt)

10 Evening and morning, all! 'Tis Tuesday, and . . .

. . . Wait. Topless gladiatrices were real, let alone spectacular? How come they never told me about this in history class --? All that junk about dates and who was emperor when, and not a hint --!

Anyway: I watched Time Bandits last night for the first time since the film was new. Some of my melatonin-fueled dreams have been a lot like Terry Gilliam's visions on film, I think. A fun movie. Though the only part I could recall from years ago was Sean Connery's turn as King Agamemnon.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 30, 2023 04:35 AM (omVj0)

11 8 >>>AI makes shit up. (PowerLine)

And I wonder if this is what's infecting web searches.

Posted by: m

Yes, and that's a good example of a worthless result produced by an inadequate AI. All the words are in the right place but it explains nothing.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at May 30, 2023 04:35 AM (BLOW1)

12 Time for a second small cuppa coffee, and then I'll plunge back into the routine of shaving, breakfast, drive to work, etc. I have a slew of payments to process and reports to clear. But my boss is still gone until early July. Probably I can tiptoe out about 4 or maybe a little earlier.

The Killer Kittens From Outer Space and doing well.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 30, 2023 04:37 AM (omVj0)

13 Good morning morons

The FBI is a paragon of virtue that avoids even the appearance of impropriety

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 30, 2023 04:37 AM (RIvkX)

14 Disney is asking for more punishment!

https://tinyurl.com/4mtc6692

(Nitter)

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 30, 2023 04:39 AM (Dzf2t)

15 "Jaynesian in its vapidity" -- good line, but I don't know who Jaynes was?

How could anyone conclude that the Greeks couldn't see the color blue? The sky has not changed in human history. And the Aegean area had a lot of sky. It was right above them! If their language doesn't seem to have a word for "blue," maybe the real word for "blue" has been mistranslated.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 30, 2023 04:42 AM (omVj0)

16 Greeks could not see the color blue?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 30, 2023 04:52 AM (zZu0s)

17 15 "Jaynesian in its vapidity" -- good line, but I don't know who Jaynes was?

Julian Jaynes, author of The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind in which he argues that (a) the ancient Greeks had no conscious thought and also (b) spoke to trees.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at May 30, 2023 04:57 AM (BLOW1)

18 I just discovered the most perfect example of AI bullshit on Twitter. It's currently getting dogpiled but if it survives until tomorrow I'll roast it some more here.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at May 30, 2023 05:00 AM (BLOW1)

19 > [...] nearly Jaynesian in its vapidity [...]

Ah. href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Jaynesian"

Initially thought this was a stealth _Firefly_ reference. But Jayne was
anything but vapid. Violent, yes, but not vapid.

Well played, Pixy...

Posted by: 6eyes at May 30, 2023 05:04 AM (9ufEO)

20 The video about the color blue was fantastic. My take away is all Youtube personalities are in fact fronts for ChatGPT which is a proven liar. I love all the lunatic stuff about ancient aliens, big foot, and now, that the Greeks, when they weren't butt buggering each other, were color blind. But that doesn't mean I buy into the lunacy that ignores the obvious except for the 1950s movie Them which as a kid I knew was a documentary because it was well known that atomic bomb radiation caused mutations and we still haven't begun to discuss Superman and Kryptonite.

In conclusion I can say this: Lapis Lazuli. Look it up. There might even be a YouTube video about it.

Posted by: Lost In Space at May 30, 2023 05:05 AM (a175k)

21 > ...but at least one corner of that market cap is built on sand.

ISWYDT.

Posted by: Bitblt at May 30, 2023 05:05 AM (O+SGk)

22 Alright, I give up.

How do you do anchor tags in comments? (Or any other HTML).

Posted by: 6eyes at May 30, 2023 05:06 AM (9ufEO)

23 Julian Jaynes, author of The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind in which he argues that (a) the ancient Greeks had no conscious thought and also (b) spoke to trees. Posted by: Pixy Misa

So the Greeks were the ancestors for all late stage alcoholic Irishmen?

Posted by: Lost In Space at May 30, 2023 05:08 AM (a175k)

24 Use [ and [/ instead.

Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at May 30, 2023 05:09 AM (89Sog)

25 Julian Jaynes, author of The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind in which he argues that (a) the ancient Greeks had no conscious thought and also (b) spoke to trees.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at May 30, 2023 04:57 AM (BLOW1)

...

What?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 30, 2023 05:10 AM (zZu0s)

26 *looks up Julian Jaynes*

Sounds like a well educated retard.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 30, 2023 05:11 AM (zZu0s)

27 > thanks to the FBI basically just making shit up. As they do.

Interesting juxtaposition with the lead-off item about ChatGPT.

Posted by: Bitblt at May 30, 2023 05:11 AM (O+SGk)

28 [a]Ah. href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Jaynesian"[/a]

Posted by: 6eyes at May 30, 2023 05:11 AM (9ufEO)

29 I am still wondering how blue color blindness works into this.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 30, 2023 05:12 AM (zZu0s)

30 *argh* No joy.

Posted by: 6eyes at May 30, 2023 05:12 AM (9ufEO)

31 Ummm yeah about links. Put those in the box that says url on the bottom. Your name will show up in red to indicate a link. You can always say "link in sig"

Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at May 30, 2023 05:14 AM (89Sog)

32 Tags are hard. The Barrel awaits and hungers.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 30, 2023 05:15 AM (RIvkX)

33 [a]Ah. href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Jaynesian"[/a]
Posted by: 6eyes at May 30, 2023 05:11 AM (9ufEO)
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[url]https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Jaynesian[/url]

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 30, 2023 05:16 AM (Dzf2t)

34 Disabled here.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 30, 2023 05:16 AM (Dzf2t)

35 Search for BBCODE.

Again, some are disabled here - and for good reason!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 30, 2023 05:16 AM (Dzf2t)

36 For example,

I buy games from this company. Mostly Advanced Squad Leader add ons.

Critical Hii.

Link in sig

Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at May 30, 2023 05:17 AM (89Sog)

37 So the FBI is a front for ChatGPT? What do you bet Chet Taylor is about become an FBI agent?
Posted by: Lost In Space

LOL

Posted by: Bruce at May 30, 2023 05:18 AM (vd8XM)

38 bold!
run!!! The italicans are n the rampage!
cancel that!
~~cancelled~~

Then you hope you closed all your tags

Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at May 30, 2023 05:20 AM (89Sog)

39 Unfortunately most BBCode tags are disabled here because of trolls.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at May 30, 2023 05:21 AM (BLOW1)

40 (a) the ancient Greeks had no conscious thought and also (b) spoke to trees.
Posted by: Pixy Misa

Clint can talk to the trees.

https://tinyurl.com/2p9u4mtc

Posted by: Bruce at May 30, 2023 05:21 AM (vd8XM)

41 [url=https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Jaynesian]Ah.[/url]

Posted by: 6eyes at May 30, 2023 05:22 AM (9ufEO)

42 reset...

Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at May 30, 2023 05:24 AM (89Sog)

43 Disabled here.
Posted by: Biden's Dog

Can you get a placard for your car for special parking?

Posted by: Bruce at May 30, 2023 05:25 AM (vd8XM)

44 Ah, well. So be it.

(Though I swear I've seen links in comments before. Probably something Jaynesian in my brain.)

Posted by: 6eyes at May 30, 2023 05:25 AM (9ufEO)

45 Can you get a placard for your car for special parking?
Posted by: Bruce at May 30, 2023 05:25 AM (vd8XM)
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Only when I'm in a crutch.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 30, 2023 05:26 AM (Dzf2t)

46 Can you get a placard for your car for special parking?
Posted by: Bruce at May 30, 2023 05:25 AM (vd8XM)
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Only when I'm in a crutch.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 30, 2023 05:26 AM (Dzf2t)
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Also when I lose my head.

And sometimes on condition that I'm unarmed.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 30, 2023 05:28 AM (Dzf2t)

47 Things are looking much better when it comes to AI-generated art, because there the look of the thing is what matters. Is that a period-accurate representation of 2nd century Rome in the background behind the topless gladiatrix? Nobody cares, so long as it looks good.

Except for ChapGPT which will use it to prove that you did indeed have sex with a cheese cake.

Posted by: Lost In Space at May 30, 2023 05:29 AM (a175k)

48 Except for ChapGPT which will use it to prove that you did indeed have sex with a cheese cake.
Posted by: Lost In Space

Cheesecake was asking for it.

Posted by: Bruce at May 30, 2023 05:31 AM (vd8XM)

49 (Though I swear I've seen links in comments before. Probably something Jaynesian in my brain.)
Posted by: 6eyes at May 30, 2023 05:25 AM (9ufEO)

Plain text.

e.g. https://www.weaselzippers.us/

Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at May 30, 2023 05:32 AM (89Sog)

50 Plain text.

e.g. https://www.weaselzippers.us/
Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at May 30, 2023 05:32 AM (89Sog)
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BEWARE OF THE MARGINS!!!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 30, 2023 05:34 AM (Dzf2t)

51 You gotta keep some stuff sekrit!!!

Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at May 30, 2023 05:36 AM (89Sog)

52 Fox News: Millions of fast food workers could lose their jobs within 5 years [because of AI].

This could actually be a positive. 1. My two hamburger order will consistently get filled correctly. 2. I can postpone having to learn Spanish indefinitely.

I do have two concerns, that McDonald's will become a front for ChatGP, a known liar, which means that I can kiss off getting two hamburgers consistently and that the Karens of the world will turn violent when their is no longer a manager to speak to.

https://tinyurl.com/32tzrskz

Posted by: Lost In Space at May 30, 2023 05:40 AM (a175k)

53 44 (... I swear I've seen links in comments before.)
Posted by: 6eyes at May 30, 2023 05:25 AM (9ufEO)

Nope. Not at AoSHq.

Posted by: m at May 30, 2023 05:40 AM (AOrJZ)

54 There used to be a little cheat sheet near the comments box that told you about using [ and [/ and also told you which formatting choices were operable here.

Posted by: m at May 30, 2023 05:44 AM (AOrJZ)

55 Karens of the world will turn violent when their is no longer a manager to speak to.

https://tinyurl.com/32tzrskz
Posted by: Lost In Space at May 30, 2023 05:40 AM (a175k)

But enough of the bright side of automation...

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 30, 2023 05:44 AM (zZu0s)

56 The Greeks spoke to trees . . . I know the ancient Romans' religion was animistic, that they assumed there were minor gods in everything from rocks to trees as well as the sea and sky. Did the early Greeks think so too? Their classic mythology assumed gods and goddesses *in charge of* nearly everything, but did the Greeks or their predecessors think the trees, for instance, actually contained wood nymphs?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 30, 2023 05:44 AM (omVj0)

57 dryad: a nymph whose life is bound up with that of her tree

Posted by: m at May 30, 2023 05:45 AM (AOrJZ)

58 54 There used to be a little cheat sheet near the comments box that told you about using [ and [/ and also told you which formatting choices were operable here.
Posted by: m at May 30, 2023 05:44 AM (AOrJZ)

I do not remember seeing that recently. Hell, the most recent changes revolved around the trolls who would copy and paste the thread and the green orange.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 30, 2023 05:46 AM (zZu0s)

59 I didn't post this yesterday, but it is certainly a memorable story and I have posted it before: The story of the four chaplains/-one RC, one Methodist, one Jewish and one Dutch Reformed who helped save men before praying together and going down with the ship in WW2:

https://tinyurl.com/wj5hfusu

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 30, 2023 05:47 AM (FLXnK)

60 dryad: a nymph whose life is bound up with that of her tree
Posted by: m at May 30, 2023

***
So a hamadryad was a Gentile dryad?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 30, 2023 05:47 AM (omVj0)

61 Oh, jeez. The local "weather" mavens are all sexually excited that hurricane season starts on June 1. The CBS outlet will have a prime-time special on 5/31, just in case a single one of their viewers isn't terrified that Tropical Storm Alopecia is coming for him.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 30, 2023 05:50 AM (omVj0)

62 Hamadryades: Nymphs whose life depended on that of trees to which they were attached

Posted by: m at May 30, 2023 05:51 AM (AOrJZ)

63 robot playing basketball.

https://tinyurl.com/38r54wjd

The cylons have arrived

Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at May 30, 2023 05:51 AM (89Sog)

64
g'mornin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at May 30, 2023 05:51 AM (ENBF0)

65 yo wut sup

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 30, 2023 05:52 AM (BRHaw)

66 Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 30, 2023 05:50 AM (omVj0)
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"Only you can prevent hurricanes." - Wokey the Climate Change Bear

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 30, 2023 05:53 AM (Dzf2t)

67 Oh, jeez. The local "weather" mavens are all sexually excited that hurricane season starts on June 1. The CBS outlet will have a prime-time special on 5/31, just in case a single one of their viewers isn't terrified that Tropical Storm Alopecia is coming for him.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

This is also known as the Free Television Season.

Posted by: Lost In Space at May 30, 2023 05:56 AM (a175k)

68 Todays devotional based on Ezekiel and the account of the dry bones:

tinyurl.com/ymhmt8n3

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 30, 2023 05:57 AM (ki3p9)

69 Phone decided to update, always a adventure

Posted by: Skip at May 30, 2023 05:58 AM (xhxe8)

70 I bought pancake mix and syrup for the first time in decades. If I don't blow up the kitchen I will have finally found a use for frozen blueberries. The wonders and risks of the modern world never cease to amaze me.

Posted by: Lost In Space at May 30, 2023 06:02 AM (a175k)

71 Blueberry buttermilk scone.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 30, 2023 06:04 AM (RIvkX)

72 Great Smoky Mountains in TN:

tinyurl.com/42u9pr55

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 30, 2023 06:04 AM (ki3p9)

73 Florida 'furry' festival supporters say Gov. DeSantis has 'sucked the pleasure out of life's little joys' as it's forced to go 18+ under new law banning children from viewing live adult entertainment

What are pedophiles Alex?

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 30, 2023 06:04 AM (BRHaw)

74 Today's corny joke

Why is Peter Pan always flying?

Because he Neverlands.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 30, 2023 06:07 AM (ki3p9)

75 Has anyone tried just explicitly telling the AI that its responses have to comport with reality?

"Oh! Well in that case...."

Maybe just no one ever explicitly told skynet not to exterminate humanity.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 30, 2023 06:10 AM (9UlRk)

76 Morning, 'rons and 'ettes.

Posted by: olddog in mo at May 30, 2023 06:11 AM (CmOb8)

77 Fox News is reporting Ukrainians have attacked Moscow.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 30, 2023 06:12 AM (RIvkX)

78 NBC news story.

https://tinyurl.com/y8te8n2k

Posted by: Lost In Space at May 30, 2023 06:15 AM (a175k)

79 IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE BY "LIFE'S LITTLE JOYS" THEY MEAN OTHER PEOPLE'S TASTY, TASTY CHILDREN. WAIT NO NOT FUNNY. GROSS. IT'S GROSS. CRAP I THINK I JUST TURNED INTO GLENN REYNOLDS. QUICK FIND ME A LINK TO SLAP IN HERE:

Posted by: BEN REYNOLDSBERGERS at May 30, 2023 06:15 AM (9UlRk)

80 "Has anyone tried just explicitly telling the AI that its responses have to comport with reality?"

Just how is a AI supposed to know what is reality?

GIGO

Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at May 30, 2023 06:15 AM (89Sog)

81 Just how is a AI supposed to know what is reality?

GIGO
Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at May 30, 2023 06:15 AM (89Sog)

Bingo ain't just a farm dog.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 30, 2023 06:17 AM (9UlRk)

82 checking for hash change

Posted by: DB - at May 30, 2023 06:20 AM (geLO8)

83 nope
carry on

Posted by: DB - at May 30, 2023 06:20 AM (geLO8)

84 NBC News: Mykhailo Podolyak, an adviser to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, said that his country "has nothing directly to do" with the drone attacks on Moscow. Ukraine is, however, "pleased to observe and predict an increase in the number of attacks," he said in a YouTube interview Tuesday.

The Uks need to work on the plausible denial techniques. If this is true, let us hope the Uks didn't use American drones.

Posted by: Lost In Space at May 30, 2023 06:20 AM (a175k)

85 My new hash is for Rivka X who is a haredi member of the Mossad. And also now I'm a girl.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 30, 2023 06:21 AM (RIvkX)

86 NBC News: Mykhailo Podolyak, an adviser to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, said that his country "has nothing directly to do" with the drone attacks on Moscow.. ...
Posted by: Lost In Space at May 30, 2023 06:20 AM (a175k)
===
Shorter: it was us.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 30, 2023 06:22 AM (RIvkX)

87 Mid 50s and clear, no chance of rain the rest of this month or next I think

Posted by: Skip at May 30, 2023 06:23 AM (3y+Sf)

88 Why would the Ukrainians have any motivation to deny any attack on Moscow, outside of the "attack" being laughably pathetic? They're at war. They *should* be trying to attack Moscow. There's no reason to deny it.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 30, 2023 06:23 AM (9UlRk)

89 One of the Ukes legal-strategic approaches is to maintain their efforts as entirely territorial defense with no offensive operations in Russian territory. So they have to use fiction.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 30, 2023 06:25 AM (RIvkX)

90 Shorter: it was us.
Posted by: San Franpsycho

I didn't want to go there but that crossed my mind.

Posted by: Lost In Space at May 30, 2023 06:25 AM (a175k)

91 Fargo Public Schools publicly announced that they would defy Republican Gov. Doug Burgum’s law that bans such actions in the classroom.

“We will not openly out any student because of one law if we know that that’s going to cause harm to that child,” Fargo Public Schools Superintendent Dr. Rupak Gandhi said.

This has nothing to do with the law. This is EVIL as real as Hitler Youth or Mao's cultural revolution. There is enough normal strain in families without a large, manipulative government force adding additional wedges and walls between parents and their children.

Yes there are a few bad parents but it appears there are MILLIONS of bad teachers and administrators.

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 30, 2023 06:26 AM (BRHaw)

92 " Shorter: it was us.
Posted by: San Franpsycho"

On word.

Gleiwitz

Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at May 30, 2023 06:26 AM (89Sog)

93 Not a uke fanboi at all but this drone attack is so laughable. Got to be a Russian op.

Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at May 30, 2023 06:27 AM (89Sog)

94 Take a few minutes and see what is being taught at CUNY.

This speech would make Hamas proud.

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 30, 2023 06:29 AM (BRHaw)

95 Oh? So "outing" is a thing again?

Hey maybe if you wanna keep your orientation secret from your parents just don't mince around at school all day collecting Rainbow Bonus Points and think they won't catch wind of it.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 30, 2023 06:31 AM (9UlRk)

96 I though about this yesterday:

In Flanders fields the poppies blow
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place; and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 30, 2023 06:32 AM (BRHaw)

97 "Son, are you... gay?"

"Oh, don't worry about that, I'm just acting so i can get into a good college. "

"Hmmm. Good call."

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 30, 2023 06:36 AM (9UlRk)

98 The Metatron always puts out great historical videos. He rips apart that Netflix docuseries about Cleopatra. He also recently took a gladius to the whole "The Greeks were all super cool with homosexuality!" crap.

Posted by: buzzion at May 30, 2023 06:36 AM (aRLgQ)

99 mornin yall. Scientists have discovered that the Earth has a new moon. I've got a bad feeling about this.

Posted by: fd at May 30, 2023 06:36 AM (iayUP)

100 "Son, are you... gay?"

"Oh, don't worry about that, I'm just acting so i can get into a good college. "

"Hmmm. Good call."
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 30, 2023 06:36 AM (9UlRk)
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Bad call. Then it's not a good college.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 30, 2023 06:38 AM (Dzf2t)

101 The Greeks were all super cool with homosexuality!" crap.
Posted by: buzzion at May 30, 2023 06:36 AM (aRLgQ)

I know Herodotus makes a crack about the Lydians making sex slaves out of their girls instead of their boys, like decent civilized Greeks did.

Which we know is unassailable history, because Herodotus.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 30, 2023 06:38 AM (9UlRk)

102
Scientists have discovered that the Earth has a new moon. I've got a bad feeling about this.

Posted by: fd at May 30, 2023 06:36 AM

It's between one and three meters in size (about three to nine feet) and would break up in the atmosphere easily before landing directly on you. Not to worry.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 30, 2023 06:41 AM (enJYY)

103 The speaker from NY was the class valedictorian. One wonders how you can finish first in a law school with no actual knowledge of the law you were supposed to have studied?

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at May 30, 2023 06:42 AM (oWBc3)

104 One wonders how you can finish first in a law school with no actual knowledge of the law you were supposed to have studied?
Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at May 30, 2023 06:42 AM (oWBc3)

Law School has as much to do with the U.S. Code as Journalism School has to do with journalism.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 30, 2023 06:43 AM (9UlRk)

105 "The speaker from NY was the class valedictorian. One wonders how you can finish first in a law school with no actual knowledge of the law you were supposed to have studied?"

DEI points....she scored the most.

Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at May 30, 2023 06:43 AM (89Sog)

106 Whether or not Russia is involved (likely), the drone attacks in Moscow remind why war is a dangerous game. It's a game of entropy - energy always has to be added to keep it going, but directing same can be a gamble.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at May 30, 2023 06:45 AM (oWBc3)

107 103 The speaker from NY was the class valedictorian. One wonders how you can finish first in a law school with no actual knowledge of the law you were supposed to have studied?
Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at May 30, 2023 06:42 AM (oWBc3)

no she was selected she sounded kind of stupid to me

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 30, 2023 06:51 AM (BRHaw)

108 "NASA’s SLS Rocket Is $6 Billion over Budget, 6 Years Behind Schedule"

It's going to cost 100 billion dollars to put the first person of a female-like type on the Moon, and they will be late.

Posted by: fd at May 30, 2023 06:52 AM (iayUP)

109 I was going to make a joke that you cant spell something something without CUNY

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 30, 2023 06:53 AM (BRHaw)

110 22 Alright, I give up.

How do you do anchor tags in comments? (Or any other HTML).

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https://www.bbcode.org/reference.php

Posted by: Ciampino - Cats & kittens everywhere at May 30, 2023 06:53 AM (qfLjt)

111 One wonders how you can finish first in a law school with no actual knowledge of the law you were supposed to have studied?
Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at May 30, 2023 06:42 AM (oWBc3)
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Low Bar

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 30, 2023 06:55 AM (Dzf2t)

112 Birdbath status?

Posted by: Just Wondering at May 30, 2023 06:56 AM (DhOHl)

113 Neighbor and I were fixing a fence between our places yesterday - at seven decades I can stretch while at eight he can still nail (mostly) - his pearl of wisdom was that having read an article about the new sport in Texas HS of competitive barbecue, "barbecue ain't a sport and I suspect taxes will go up to support it." Competitive barbecue, instead of letter jackets they will have aprons.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at May 30, 2023 06:56 AM (oWBc3)

114 46 Can you get a placard for your car for special parking?
Posted by: Bruce at May 30, 2023 05:25 AM (vd8XM)
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Only when I'm in a crutch.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 30, 2023 05:26 AM (Dzf2t)
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Also when I lose my head.

And sometimes on condition that I'm unarmed.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 30, 2023 05:28 AM (Dzf2t)

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What about hot foot then, eh!

Posted by: Ciampino -- Cats & kittens everywhere at May 30, 2023 06:58 AM (qfLjt)

115 Competitive barbecue

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at May 30, 2023 06:56 AM (oWBc3)
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Back to school I go!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 30, 2023 06:59 AM (Dzf2t)

116 What about hot foot then, eh!
Posted by: Ciampino -- Cats & kittens everywhere at May 30, 2023 06:58 AM (qfLjt)
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Not allowed to park then. Toe-away zone.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 30, 2023 07:01 AM (Dzf2t)

117 Birdbath status?
Posted by: Just Wondering

In use !

Posted by: JT at May 30, 2023 07:02 AM (T4tVD)

118 Biden did well at Arlington yesterday.

Posted by: Queequeg the Harpooner at May 30, 2023 07:02 AM (9X60i)

119 52 Fox News: Millions of fast food workers could lose their jobs within 5 years [because of AI].
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It's not AI, it's just a programmed robotic entity. Sheesh. We already have those. AI would put mayo when you wanted ketchup and hold the onion instead of the pickle as asked by the customer.

Posted by: Ciampino --- Cats & kittens everywhere at May 30, 2023 07:04 AM (qfLjt)

120 It's Day One of Elizabeth Holmes' prison sentence.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 30, 2023 07:06 AM (DhOHl)

121 It's not AI, it's just a programmed robotic entity. Sheesh. We already have those. AI would put mayo when you wanted ketchup and hold the onion instead of the pickle as asked by the customer.
Posted by: Ciampino --- Cats & kittens everywhere at May 30, 2023 07:04 AM (qfLjt)

Lol, very true. All they're doing is making the customer press the buttons on the cash register instead of some employee in a uniform.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 30, 2023 07:06 AM (9UlRk)

122 that the ancient Greeks couldn't see the colour blue.

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I've recently come across this idea that all the ancient could not distinguish blue from green

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at May 30, 2023 07:07 AM (VdN7z)

123
Artificial intelligence is the sentience level of a person inhabiting a fictional reality.

Cognitive dissonance isn't allowed to intrude into that "reality" since the structure will collapse.

Posted by: irongrampa at May 30, 2023 07:07 AM (KATBx)

124

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at May 30, 2023 07:07 AM (vwCZJ)

125 AI will be required in kiosks, because people are either too stupid or too illiterate to use them fully sans human. See also people who don't speak English, or do depending where in our country you may find yourself.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at May 30, 2023 07:07 AM (oWBc3)

126 108 "NASA’s SLS Rocket Is $6 Billion over Budget, 6 Years Behind Schedule"

It's going to cost 100 billion dollars to put the first person of a female-like type on the Moon, and they will be late.

Posted by: fd at May 30, 2023 06:52 AM (iayUP)
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Scrap that and pay reparations instead - say all the city Blacks.

Posted by: Ciampino - kittens everywhere at May 30, 2023 07:08 AM (qfLjt)

127 Biden did well at Arlington? Did his helicopter do a flyby?

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at May 30, 2023 07:08 AM (oWBc3)

128 It's not AI, it's just a programmed robotic entity. Sheesh. We already have those. AI would put mayo when you wanted ketchup and hold the onion instead of the pickle as asked by the customer.
Posted by: Ciampino --- Cats & kittens everywhere at May 30, 2023 07:04 AM (qfLjt)

But I ordered this without arsenic!

You did not specify.

I didn't think I HAD to!

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 30, 2023 07:09 AM (zZu0s)

129 "Biden did well at Arlington? Did his helicopter do a flyby?
Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem"

Depends. Extra strength.

Posted by: fd at May 30, 2023 07:09 AM (iayUP)

130 I kind of welcome the AI, completely automated thing in food. I do not need to wonder whether the robot washed it's hands or has a runny nose.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 30, 2023 07:10 AM (zZu0s)

131 I find the WaWa touchscreen menu to be simple and intuitive. I find the McDonald's ordering kiosk to be the opposite. It's probably due to menu complexity. My answer has been simple: stop going to McDonald's.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 30, 2023 07:11 AM (DhOHl)

132 "I kind of welcome the AI, completely automated thing in food. I do not need to wonder whether the robot washed it's hands or has a runny nose.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop "

And the leaked hydraulic fluid actually improves the chicken nuggets.

Posted by: fd at May 30, 2023 07:11 AM (iayUP)

133 Chet Taylor late in life changed his name to "Candy" and identified as a xhe.

The record needs correction.

More coffee...

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 30, 2023 07:12 AM (7tCXb)

134 Morning peeps.
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Fox News: Millions of fast food workers could lose their jobs within 5 years [because of AI].
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I want AI to replace the newz readers on TV. Now that would be "a story."

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 30, 2023 07:12 AM (Q4IgG)

135 And the leaked hydraulic fluid actually improves the chicken nuggets.
Posted by: fd at May 30, 2023 07:11 AM (iayUP)

I knew there was something about the sweet and sour sauce....

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 30, 2023 07:12 AM (9UlRk)

136 Biden did well at Arlington yesterday.
Posted by: Queequeg the Harpooner at May 30, 2023 07:02 AM (9X60i)
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Joe's an expert at a moment of silence.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 30, 2023 07:13 AM (Dzf2t)

137 132 "I kind of welcome the AI, completely automated thing in food. I do not need to wonder whether the robot washed it's hands or has a runny nose.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop "

And the leaked hydraulic fluid actually improves the chicken nuggets.
Posted by: fd at May 30, 2023 07:11 AM (iayUP)

Maybe they will be able to coordinate things to where the fries will always be hot.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 30, 2023 07:13 AM (zZu0s)

138 *Scrap that and pay reparations instead - say all the city Blacks.*

'cuz whitey's on the moon!

https://youtu.be/3nzoPopQ7V0

Posted by: Gil Heron at May 30, 2023 07:14 AM (DhOHl)

139 Joe's an expert at a moment of silence.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 30, 2023 07:13 AM (Dzf2t)

Well, if you count the silence after he cuts a gigantic pants flutterer.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 30, 2023 07:14 AM (zZu0s)

140 IIRC, wasn't the plan for reparations in California going to be in the trillions?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 30, 2023 07:14 AM (zZu0s)

141 Good morning peeps. Couldn't have asked for better weather over the weekend. It's beginning to warm up now and we'll be back to the hot humid crap I'm used to for Missouri.

Posted by: jewells45 fuck cancer at May 30, 2023 07:15 AM (wagHN)

142 Joe's an expert at a moment of silence.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 30, 2023 07:13 AM (Dzf2t)

Well, if you count the silence after he cuts a gigantic pants flutterer.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 30, 2023 07:14 AM (zZu0s)
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I distinctly said "a moment." Think of the time in between.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 30, 2023 07:17 AM (Dzf2t)

143 56 The Greeks spoke to trees . . .

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 30, 2023 05:44 AM (omVj0)
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"I talk to the trees .... and that's why they put me away ..."
Eckles from The Goonshow (BBC '50s-'60s)

Posted by: Ciampino -- kittens everywhere at May 30, 2023 07:17 AM (qfLjt)

144 IIRC, wasn't the plan for reparations in California going to be in the trillions?
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 30, 2023 07:14 AM (zZu0s)

Not enough, given California's history off slavery, Jim Crow and systemic racism.

Posted by: JmT at May 30, 2023 07:19 AM (6WcPB)

145 Good morning jewells. How you doing?

Posted by: tubal at May 30, 2023 07:19 AM (PCK5/)

146 Boker Tov Patriots

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 30, 2023 07:21 AM (pVWRI)

147 > IIRC, wasn't the plan for reparations in California going to be in the trillions?
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The "advisory panel" had $1.2M per black for $800B.

The price per black, which unto itself is so ironic I can't even, has floated between $1M and $20M depending on the radicalization of the proponent.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 30, 2023 07:21 AM (Q4IgG)

148
A professor who was stitched up by the FBI has won the right to sue the government. (NBC News)

If you hamstring the FBI's ability to make stuff up, it will be the end of Our Democracy!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 30, 2023 07:21 AM (MoZTd)

149 29 I am still wondering how blue color blindness works into this.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 30, 2023 05:12 AM (zZu0s)
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Does it mean that a blue-blind Dem will vote for a Republican in error or they just buy cherries in place of blueberries?
....... waiting, don't take too long the yard is running.

Posted by: Ciampino - kittens everywhere you look at May 30, 2023 07:22 AM (qfLjt)

150 The cure for Corona was right under our noses all along:

https://tinyurl.com/3dznppnm

(Nitter)

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 30, 2023 07:24 AM (Dzf2t)

151 This color blindness of the ancients could be easily remedied by giving them a simple eye test… oh, wait..

Posted by: tubal at May 30, 2023 07:25 AM (PCK5/)

152 I love these predictions 80 years into the future:

"Up to 70% of California's beaches could disappear by the end of the century due to rising sea levels, study says"

COULD. Lots of things COULD happen. Like monkeys COULD fly out of California's butt.

Posted by: fd at May 30, 2023 07:27 AM (iayUP)

153 >>This could actually be a positive.

Well, the maniacs in charge have us in a three way doom cascade that will need to be de-gronfied..

Thing One: hyper automation of economy so as to need the barest minimum of jobs, most acutely felt at low end service jobs, but increasingly not limited to the low end.

Thing Two: increasing the low end economic pool with 10s of millions of economic migrants.

Thing Three: General Economic Illiteracy and Destruction that is effecting all facets of macro and micro economic stability.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 30, 2023 07:29 AM (Blvh7)

154
"Up to 70% of California's beaches could disappear by the end of the century due to rising sea levels, study says"

Alexandra Daddario could fall madly in love with me, too.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 30, 2023 07:30 AM (MoZTd)

155 152 I love these predictions 80 years into the future:

"Up to 70% of California's beaches could disappear by the end of the century due to rising sea levels, study says"

COULD. Lots of things COULD happen. Like monkeys COULD fly out of California's butt.

Posted by: fd at May 30, 2023 07:27 AM (iayUP)
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Ask them to give you an example of where sea level has risen. Don't tell them it would have to rise everywhere. Also ask why those Pacific Islands that were supposed to be submerged by now, are still above water.

Posted by: Ciampino -- kittens everywhere you look at May 30, 2023 07:31 AM (qfLjt)

156 Tubal, I'm doing fine, thank you.

Posted by: jewells45 fuck cancer at May 30, 2023 07:32 AM (wagHN)

157 156 Tubal, I'm doing fine, thank you.
Posted by: jewells45 fuck cancer at May 30, 2023 07:32 AM (wagHN)

Happy to hear it.

Posted by: tubal at May 30, 2023 07:32 AM (PCK5/)

158 Spouse and I just went out to get a paper and a coffee. We stopped at the local senior citizens living place and saw a bunch of painted turtles, frogs and some lovely irises and roses. Is there something lovely you can look at on nature to lift your spirits?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 30, 2023 07:33 AM (IrylL)

159 never forget

In interviews with major media outlets, several practitioners later disclosed that patients had often been put on ventilators not for their own benefit, but in order to protect hospital staff and stop the virus from spreading.

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 30, 2023 07:33 AM (BRHaw)

160 If the ocean rises about 300 feet, I COULD have beachfront property.

Posted by: fd at May 30, 2023 07:34 AM (iayUP)

161
J
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Posted by: rhennigantx at May 30, 2023 07:34 AM (BRHaw)

162 When I first met Chet Taylor, I knew right then that there was a man with sound ideas both sides if the aisle could embrace. His vision of exporting snow from South Dakota to the middle east comes to mind. There was the time my first wife and I had him over to the house and he told us he was raising a calf in his living room. He had recently lost his wife, she having run off with the Angels during Sturgis, so I let him have a go with mine.

Joseph Robinette Biden

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at May 30, 2023 07:35 AM (lz5hY)

163 Ask them to give you an example of where sea level has risen. Don't tell them it would have to rise everywhere. Also ask why those Pacific Islands that were supposed to be submerged by now, are still above water.
Posted by: Ciampino -- kittens everywhere you look at May 30, 2023 07:31 AM (qfLjt)

Ask them of one of their calamitous predictions that has come true.

Posted by: JmT at May 30, 2023 07:35 AM (6WcPB)

164
The cure for Corona was right under our noses all along:

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 30, 2023 07:24 AM

Garlic is good. Onion is good. All the stuff that our ancestors grubbed around in the ground for.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 30, 2023 07:35 AM (enJYY)

165 158 Spouse and I just went out to get a paper and a coffee. We stopped at the local senior citizens living place and saw a bunch of painted turtles, frogs and some lovely irises and roses. Is there something lovely you can look at on nature to lift your spirits?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 30, 2023 07:33 AM (IrylL)

Good thought. I get up early before the daily household chaos and sit on my back deck. Nice to watch the wildlife go about their business.

Posted by: tubal at May 30, 2023 07:36 AM (PCK5/)

166 Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 30, 2023 07:30 AM (MoZTd)

Cheer up. She's much more likely to fall in love with you than with me.

Actually I had never heard of her before James Madison started posting her pictures.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 30, 2023 07:37 AM (IrylL)

167 NBC news story.

https://tinyurl.com/y8te8n2k

In the video they interview a guy with a Calvin Klein logo chest tattoo.

Just pointing that out.

Posted by: Diesel Jones, Biologist at May 30, 2023 07:38 AM (Vu7A1)

168 167
Posted by: Diesel Jones, Biologist

So you can tell what is a woman?
/s

Posted by: Ciampino --- kittens everywhere you look at May 30, 2023 07:49 AM (qfLjt)

169 Posted by: Diesel Jones, Biologist

So you can tell what is a woman?
/s
Posted by: Ciampino --- kittens everywhere you look at May 30, 2023 07:49 AM (qfLjt)
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Dr. Jordan Peterson has the same question:

https://tinyurl.com/y3uanhde

(Nitter)

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 30, 2023 08:08 AM (Dzf2t)

170 Replacing one liar for another isn't what you think it is..

AI scares people like you most because your job is a LOT simpler than you pretend it is. I remember when building a PC was actually hard. Before youtube existed, lol.

Posted by: Fisht at May 30, 2023 10:09 AM (ZRarh)

171 It should be no surprise that AI "makes shit up". ChatGPT and its analogues are designed to synthesize material that mimics the material in its database. They have no notion of "true" or "false" or "verifiable", let alone any notion of the requirements of science or the law. When asked to generate a legal brief or a scientific paper, it will synthesize *all* of the brief or paper, including citations.

For this reason, anyone who wants to incorporate a text synthesizer like ChatGPT into a search engine has rocks in his head. What it may well do is synthesize "references" to fulfill your query, and inquirer will have no easy way to tell the genuine links from the fakes.

True artificial intelligence is still a gleam in researchers' eyes. What they've accomplished so far is to create artificial stupidity - a substance of which the world already has far too much.

Posted by: Nemo at May 30, 2023 10:46 AM (S6ArX)

172 >spoiler: they were real, and spectacular

Do not get your history from YouTubers.

We have _exactly one_ reference to female gladiators in the entire corpus, and it's a partial stela that shows two female gladiators fighting. And they're not topless. That's it. The context was not preserved, so we have no idea if the stela represents something that was real, if it's artistic, if it was some kind of joke, whatever. Aside from that stela we have absolutely no explicit, reliable references to female _gladiators_ whatsoever. (Women taking part in the Games, yes, but there was a lot more to the games than gladiator fights).

But you can't monetize a 30 second "we don't actually know" video.

Posted by: Daniel Ream at May 30, 2023 12:55 PM (DiCKO)

173 Do not get your history from YouTubers.

Good point.

We have _exactly one_ reference to female gladiators in the entire corpus, and it's a partial stela that shows two female gladiators fighting.

There are also two laws recorded, the first forbidding female citizens from becoming gladiators, the second banning the practice entirely.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at May 30, 2023 03:52 PM (BLOW1)

174 171 True artificial intelligence is still a gleam in researchers' eyes. What they've accomplished so far is to create artificial stupidity - a substance of which the world already has far too much.
Posted by: Nemo at May 30, 2023 10:46 AM (S6ArX)

LOL

Posted by: m at May 30, 2023 04:16 PM (aWeTk)

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