Gun Thread: Memorial Day Weekend Edition!

Howdy, Y'all! Welcome to the wondrously fabulous Gun Thread! As always, I want to thank all of our regulars for being here week in and week out, and also offer a bigly Gun Thread welcome to any newcomers who may be joining us tonight. Howdy and thank you for stopping by! I hope you find our wacky conversation on the subject of guns 'n shooting both enjoyable and informative. You are always welcome to lurk in the shadows of shame, but I'd like to invite you to jump into the conversation, say howdy, and tell us what kind of shooting you like to do!

Please take a moment to remember those who have given their lives in military service to the United States and show your gratitude by living your days as someone worthy of their sacrifice.

Holy Shitballs! How in the ever-loving Hell did it get to be the end of May? Know what that means? I say, do you know what that means? Why it means June is next, and with June comes the NoVAMoMe on the 9th and 10th. That's right, the social and cultural event of the season, the 2023 NoVAMoMe is now less than two weeks away! If you haven't registered, do not despair. There is still time to sign-up and spend a day with your friends. Specifics on how to get more information can be found below, and there is always a helpful email link on the main page left sidebar. Remember, the deadline to register and make payment is midnight May 31st so do not delay. We have to guarantee the number of attendees, so after that date, there are no additions or refunds. Please note mug sales closed on May 20th, so while you may be mug-less, you can still attend. Register today!

Psssst! Something else you will note on the main page; the dates for the 2023 TXMoMe have been added. More on this fabulous and frankly life-changing event coming soon.

With that, step into the dojo and let's get to the gun stuff below, shall we?

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2023 NoVAMoMe Reminder

A NoVAMoMe PSA from our pal bluebell

Hi folks - just a quick PSA. If you write for info about the MoMe, please give us a few words in the body of the email just so I know you are a Moron and not a spammer (moron). I do receive spam on this email account because it's sitting right here in my nic, so that's why I'm asking. I don't want to give our details to a spammer.
Thanks.
Posted by: bluebell - NoVaMoMe registration now open!

Nothing complicated, people. Just let bluebell know you're a regular and not an imposter by using the secret handshake and related gang-signs. Lastly, don't forget, there is a meetup for the airing of grievances on Friday afternoon and evening, then the main NoVAMoMe on Saturday, and the opportunity to do some shooting on Sunday (separate registration required). Don't be a pathetic girly-man loser, register today!

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New! for 2023, the Moron Gun Club, Northern Virginia Chapter has organized a group shooting event at a local range in Virginia on Sunday the day after the official NoVAMoMe. There is only ONE slot left, so do not delay in contacting Sharon(wa) if you're interested. Details below:

The DMV MGC has made a reservation at our range to host a group of no more than 15 people in their party room on 6/11, the Sunday after the MoMe. This consists of 3 15 yd lanes and totally for our use only. We will have the lanes starting at 1:30 but will be asking people to arrive at 1 so we don't waste lane time getting organized and you will have to go through the safety briefing. There was a pretty significant fee so we need to charge $20 but there are no additional fees unless you want to buy ammo or rent a gun. Handguns only. We will have our personal arsenals (some much larger than others) so if you are weaponless that is not a problem. We only have ONE slot left so if you are interested, email Blaster at this address Novamomeshoot@proton.me.
The range is in Virginia so little more flexible if you are carrying. Once you have a spot, we will send you a link to fill out the guest form and sign the waivers so we don't waste time at the range getting people checked in. This way you just have to show ID.

Couple of caveats: a) you must attend the NoVAMoMe ($20 cash due at the MoMe), and 2) this is not part of the official MoMe. After the range meetup, we will head to our favorite restaurant for dinner. Separate checks.
Sharon(willow's apprentice)

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Guns of the Horde
First up, our pal Ed L sends in this beauty for us all to enjoy.

At first glance, this pistol looks like any other Beretta 92FS pistol. Tens of thousands of these have been produced. But this example is a very rare variant for the civilian market. It's a US military issue M9 pistol.

Beretta has produced commemorative pistols that duplicated the M9's military markings, but the serial number definitively confirms this example as a genuine M9. M9 pistol serial numbers started at 1000001. This serial number, 1001851, shows that this pistol was the 1,851st pistol delivered to the military by Beretta.

The US military has not yet declared M9 pistols surplus. But one small group of people have been able to obtain M9 pistols out of military stocks. These are retired flag officers (generals and admirals), who have the option to purchase their sidearms upon retirement from active duty. This M9 pistol was the issued sidearm of Major General Bernard L. Weiss, USAF. He purchased the pistol upon his retirement from the USAF in 1988. As the commander of the USAF Contract Management Division from 1985-1988, he was certainly heavily involved in the M9 program. His selection of a brand new M9 as his sidearm is not surprising. You can see here his official photo (as a Brigadier General) and a copy of the Cash Collection Voucher used to pay for his sidearm upon his retirement. Later flag officer sidearms would have presentation grips and their own special serial number range, making this M9 a rare, unaltered original example.

This M9 comes with the full rig, including the USAF general officer's belt, black leather M12 Bianchi holster, and matching black leather magazine pouch. Major General Weiss' two-star flag is also part of the package.

Wow! Very nice, Ed L! Amazing provenance. Thanks for sending this in!

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Next, a follow-up to last week's Gun Thread featuring a Lee-Enfield Rifle No. 5 Mk. 1, from our pal Scampydog.

A few days ago I considered sending the attached pic. But I'm rarely around on Sundays, and thought if I can't participate in the thread - don't send a pic. Regardless, it was both cool and ironic to see your write up this evening.

Nice looking example of the Jungle Carbine, Scampydog, how does it shoot? Oh, and submissions are always welcome! Thank you!

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Range Time!
Next, our pal RedMindBlueState shares a picture from a range trip past.

This is a pic of a target I fired some mumblemumble years ago with the Model 70 and some handloads my dad worked up for it. No rear bag, nothing special. Just a good day on the range. For a non-custom rifle, it'll shoot pretty well if the operator is properly switched on. Six shots at 100 yds. Just ignore that one flyer.

Nice shooting, RMBS! Thank you!

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Worth Watching
Your ol' pal Weasel is a sucker for restoration videos of mechanical things, and this one is a real doozy!

It's not too long so let me know what you think in the comments. Would you have attempted to restore the gun? Would you have tried firing it afterward?

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Ax Weasel
Q: Weasel, how radioactive is the first atomic bomb site?
A: This radioactive, thank you for axing.

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Let's say you're wandering around and suddenly find yourself at the controls of a SR-71. If this were to happen, you'll be glad to have had this tour of the SR-71 cockpit. You're welcome.

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NoVAMoMe 2023

Not so fast on the gun stuff, buckaroos! We have a little bit more on the NoVAMoMe to discuss. In fact, this will be the first of a long and seemingly endless series of reminders to get yo' big butt off the couch and come out and meet some of your online friends. Let's kick things off with a few NoVAMoMe FAQ.

Q: Is it fun?
A: Yes. Just ask anyone who has been to one. You will have fun, or else.

Q: When is it again? Did you say June?
A: Yes. A thousand times yes! June 10th, from 1pm til 6pm or so.

Q: I'm sort of a dork. Can I just slink-in, watch for a bit and then slink out without having to actually speak with anyone?
A: Yes. In fact, we have strategically placed large potted ferns for lurkers to hide behind.

Q: Will bluebell be there? I really want to meet bluebell.
A: Of course! Well, assuming things go well at the parole hearing.

Q: Is there food and drink?
A: Yes! $30 for a bigly buffet, and a cash bar. We had to bump up the food price a bit to cover costs this year.

Q: Can I make references, even veiled references to the secret MoMe location on the blog?
A: NO! Seriously, please don't.

Q: Sounds great, Weasel! How do I sign up?
A: We have an online page for registration. Email novamome@protonmail.com for all the details!

OK, I'm talking to YOU Mr. or Ms. I'll Go Next Time. Guess what? The next time is here. It's a really fun event and we would love to have you join us. Hopefully some NoVAMoMe veterans will speak up in the comments and encourage the introverts to stop being big baby chickens and make this the year to come out of the shadows!

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Musical Interlude
Here is Muddy Waters with Hoochie Coochie Man

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Gun Basics 101
No new video from the She Equips Herself gal so here is one from the archives on easy ways to rack a pistol slide.

Bonus Content!
Here is another video on the same topic, with significantly less racking.

Armed Attorneys
As promised, here's a weekly video installment from the Armed Attorneys YouTube channel. These are always worthwhile to watch!

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Cigar of the Week

This week I have a review of two cigars from Nick's Cigar World, a cigar shop I like and use online regularly.

Terrible cigar at any price

First, the Casa de Garcia Maduro available atfor $32 per bundle of 20. Casa de Crapola is more like it.

WeaselReview: Complete waste of dinero. More awful than bad. Bad simply implies a matter of taste, and these are terrible in every respect, both objectively and subjectively. Do not buy. Atrocious construction and you'll suck your eyeballs into the back of your head trying to get this turd to draw. Zero stars, and at FREE these would be overpriced. Recommend only to people you hate.

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Moving along...
quorum-mad 052823 scaled.jpg

Pretty decent $2 cigar

Next we have a slightly pricier option, the Quorum Maduro Robusto at $38 per bundle of 20, which are actually quite decent and worth every bit of $2 each. You're not going to find these on Cigar Aficianado with a 120 rating, but hey, they're two bucks.

I like finding decent bundled cigars around $2 a pop which are my farming chores and mowing-the-grass cigars. I absolutely recommend the Quorum Maduro Robusto. Decent construction, burn and taste, and won't break the bank!

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Here are some different online cigar vendors. You will find they not only carry different brands and different lines from those brands, but also varying selections of vitolas (sizes/shapes) of given lines. It's good to have options, especially if you're looking for a specific cigar.

Cigarsinternational.com
Cigarpage.com
Famous-smoke.com
Cigarsdaily.com
Neptunecigar.com
Smallbatchcigar.com
Bobalu Cigar Company
Cigarbid.com

A note about sources. The brick & mortar/online divide exists with cigars, as with guns, and most consumer products, with respect to price. As with guns - since both are "persecuted industries", basically - I make a conscious effort to source at least some of my cigars from my local store(s). It's a small thing, but the brick & mortar segment for both guns and tobacco are precious, and worth supporting where you can. And if you're lucky enough to have a good cigar store/lounge available, they're often a good social event with many dangerous people of the sort who own scary gunz, or read smart military blogs like this one. -rhomboid

Anyone have others to include? Perhaps a small local roller who makes a cigar you like? Send me your recommendation and a link to the site!

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Ammo Link-O-Rama
I'm really very seriously not kidding around anymore. Buy Ammo
AmmoSeek - online ammo search tool
GunBot - online ammo search tool
SG Ammo
Palmetto State Armory
Georgia Arms
AmmoMan
Target Sports USA
Bud's Gun Shop
American Elite Ammo NEW!

***Mail Bag***

This week's mailbag entry is from our pal WTM. Great one!

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That's it for this week - have you been to the range?

Posted by: Weasel at 07:00 PM

Comments

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1 Good evening everyone

Posted by: Skip at May 28, 2023 07:00 PM (xhxe8)

2 st!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 28, 2023 07:01 PM (Wnv9h)

3 Or not.

Yay! Gubs!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 28, 2023 07:01 PM (Wnv9h)

4 I will watch the 1911 video, it was a sin to have it like that

Posted by: Skip at May 28, 2023 07:02 PM (xhxe8)

5 YAY!

Posted by: GWB at May 28, 2023 07:02 PM (t+Wem)

6 Ummmm, why is everything centered in the comments?

Posted by: GWB at May 28, 2023 07:02 PM (t+Wem)

7 Looks like he got the windage just right for center of target.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 28, 2023 07:02 PM (u73oe)

8 >>> 6 Ummmm, why is everything centered in the comments?
Posted by: GWB at May 28, 2023 07:02 PM (t+Wem)

Why not?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at May 28, 2023 07:04 PM (llON8)

9 Hello, Weasel!

Posted by: Ed L at May 28, 2023 07:04 PM (yRXSd)

10 And there's Ed L, always making me jealous with those historical acquisitions. Very nice, Ed!

Posted by: GWB at May 28, 2023 07:05 PM (t+Wem)

11 Greetings Y'all!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at May 28, 2023 07:05 PM (YGqO/)

12 The things I have seen from the center....

Posted by: lin-duh at May 28, 2023 07:05 PM (UUBmN)

13 Looks OK to me!

Posted by: weasel at May 28, 2023 07:05 PM (RG6z4)

14 Ummmm, why is everything centered in the comments?
Posted by: GWB at May 28, 2023 07:02 PM

Html test. Moose out front should have told you.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 28, 2023 07:06 PM (Wnv9h)

15 Big news on the ATF pistol brace over-reach front.

"On May 19, the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals granted an Injunction Pending Appeal in the case. The court’s order stated, “It is ordered that the appeal is expedited to the next available Oral Argument Calendar. It is further ordered that Appellants’ Opposed Motion For a Preliminary Injunction Pending Appeal is granted as to the Plaintiffs in this case.”

While the order seems to mean that the law does not now apply to only the plaintiffs in the case—two gun owners, a company that makes pistols with stabilizing braces and the FPC—the organization is seeking further guidance on that matter."

Here's the fun part, though. Apparently the FPC wrote to ask for clarification of who it covered, and they were told the plaintiffs, the company, and FPC members. But without a back-date. So FPC membership skyrocketed (which it should've anyway since they're effectively fighting)

But that's hilarious.

Posted by: Every child has a normal childhood, we're watching it be used as an attack at May 28, 2023 07:07 PM (5/7b/)

16 Disappeared! I’ll try without vpn.

Posted by: RI Red at May 28, 2023 07:08 PM (tLjUh)

17 Evening all!!! Read the content.

Ed L once again brings a beautiful piece and a nice story to the thread. I wonder what toys he might surprise us with the Sunday after the NoVaMoMe?

RMBS, nice grouping there. Now let's see what happens when you add another zero to that range. :-)

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 28, 2023 07:09 PM (fe7in)

18 Scoobs!

Posted by: RI Red at May 28, 2023 07:09 PM (tLjUh)

19 ust ignore that one flyer.

This is about me, isn't it?

Posted by: The Fourth Shot at May 28, 2023 07:10 PM (a3Q+t)

20
g'early evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at May 28, 2023 07:10 PM (ENBF0)

21 RMBS, nice grouping there. Now let's see what happens when you add another zero to that range. :-)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 28, 2023 07:09 PM

Do not taunt Happy Fun RMBS.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 28, 2023 07:10 PM (Wnv9h)

22 Here's the FPC article:

https://tinyurl.com/ycyybn36

Posted by: Every child has a normal childhood, we're watching it be used as an attack at May 28, 2023 07:10 PM (5/7b/)

23 Please take a moment to remember those who have given their lives in military service to the United States and show your gratitude by living your days as someone worthy of their sacrifice.

+1000

Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 28, 2023 07:11 PM (Xrfse)

24 The .45 reminds me of one my first battery commander found at Ft Bragg back in the '60s. He was on a field exercise and sat down to eat his C's. He was looking around and saw this moss covered thing hanging on a limb of a nearby tree. He checked it out and it was a M1911 in .38 cal in its holster and web belt. They investigated and figured it was a weapon someone like him, taking a break, took off and hung on the tree and forgot. Probably from the 30s.
He was allowed to keep it.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 28, 2023 07:11 PM (YGqO/)

25 Posted by: The Fourth Shot at May 28, 2023 07:10 PM (a3Q+t)
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GAAAAAK!!!

Posted by: Weasel at May 28, 2023 07:12 PM (2FWUN)

26 Well written cigar reviews today.
Just before getting to them I thought it would be nice to have "Bum Cigar" (sim to bum wine) review every now and then.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 28, 2023 07:12 PM (ga8qR)

27 Buddy at work found a holstered 1911 in the shallows of a lake while fishing....guess someone's canoe wasn't in the middle of the lake.

Posted by: BignJames at May 28, 2023 07:12 PM (AwYPR)

28 I swear, I got a third (next best loser) in posting tonight. But my vpn, going through some foreign commie (most likely) country, triggered a ban hammer.
How can I remain anonymous, Bob from NSA?

Posted by: RI Red at May 28, 2023 07:13 PM (tLjUh)

29 Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 28, 2023 07:09 PM (fe7in)
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You'll have a chance to back that up soon enough.

Posted by: Weasel at May 28, 2023 07:13 PM (RG6z4)

30 18 Scoobs!

Posted by: RI Red at May 28, 2023 07:09 PM

Red!!! How are ya!!!

I was at the range on Monday with my nephew. We started out with the .22 to do some plinking. There was a gentlemen there putting his .22 rifle through it's paces. I told him about you doing aspirin shoots and he scoffed. He said that is to big of a target. He then proceeded to split a playing card in half at 54 yards.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 28, 2023 07:14 PM (fe7in)

31 I've always wondered if one of the reasons the Jungle Carbine kicks so hard is that flash hider. It's shaped like a rocket nozzle. Seems it would deflect the blast straight back.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at May 28, 2023 07:14 PM (5YmYl)

32 Please take a moment to remember those who have given their lives in military service to the United States and show your gratitude by living your days as someone worthy of their sacrifice.

+1000
Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 28, 2023 07:11 PM (Xrfse)

1800 Hours tomorrow (Pacific Time) I have a silent toast to those who stood the line and gave all. All are welcome to join in.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 28, 2023 07:14 PM (YGqO/)

33 I bare my head and raise a glass to the honored dead. May we never forget their sacrifice.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at May 28, 2023 07:14 PM (MeG8a)

34 Turkish firearms' safety!

https://tinyurl.com/4tysfsj9
[14 seconds; A replier says, as if it makes a difference, that it's out in the sticks and not e.g. downtown Istanbul.]

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at May 28, 2023 07:15 PM (Vwz3I)

35

Indianapolis Mayor Joe Hogsett announced changes to the city's public safety plan that will target "gun violence" in the city.

Hogsett plans to go before the City-County Council and propose a ban on semi-automatic weapons, raising the age to purchase a gun to 21, and ending permitless and concealed carry in the city.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 28, 2023 07:15 PM (63Dwl)

36 Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 28, 2023 07:12 PM (ga8qR)
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Well I ain't no rhomboid or Diogenes, that's for sure!

Posted by: Weasel at May 28, 2023 07:15 PM (RG6z4)

37 PSA for the TXMoMe, the hotel that offered the rate is offering the same rate this year. Do not book through a 3rd party but call the front desk directly
I will supply that number.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 28, 2023 07:16 PM (u23W4)

38 21 Do not taunt Happy Fun RMBS.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 28, 2023 07:10 PM

29 You'll have a chance to back that up soon enough.

Posted by: Weasel at May 28, 2023 07:13 PM

Just a bit of psychological warfare. ;-)

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 28, 2023 07:16 PM (fe7in)

39 Well, the spring on the firing pin was still good!
I am surprised the springs on that 1911 weren't more damaged by corrosion than they were. But that is a pretty cool video.

Posted by: GWB at May 28, 2023 07:17 PM (t+Wem)

40 Howdy, gub 'ettes and 'rons, and thanks as always to our fearless host Weasel.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at May 28, 2023 07:17 PM (v23vE)

41 Weasel! Did you get my water bottle pic today? I need to humble brag to scoobs.

Posted by: RI Red at May 28, 2023 07:17 PM (tLjUh)

42 37 Posted by: Ben Had at May 28, 2023 07:16 PM

Sadly will not be able to attend this year.

*weeps silently*

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 28, 2023 07:18 PM (fe7in)

43 Gun range report this week:

Morons are good shooters!

Idiots are poor shooters.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 28, 2023 07:19 PM (HlyYF)

44
*weeps silently*
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 28, 2023 07:18 PM (fe7in)
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That's a shame. Word has it RancherBob has a plate at 1000 yards and I knew you would want a chance to work on it.

Posted by: Weasel at May 28, 2023 07:20 PM (RG6z4)

45 osted by: Scuba_Dude at May 28, 2023 07:09 PM (fe7in)
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You'll have a chance to back that up soon enough.
Posted by: Weasel at May 28, 2023 07:13 PM

One of my favorite Latinisms: "NON VERBA SED FACTA"

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 28, 2023 07:20 PM (a3Q+t)

46 Not long ago Gov Inslee and the Dems banned ARs in Washington State.
Got my lower order in just in time.
Yesterday I completed the build out of my brand new AR-15. Damn it is better than I thought it would be.
First round going down range in a week or two. Will submit a report.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 28, 2023 07:20 PM (YGqO/)

47 Posted by: RI Red at May 28, 2023 07:17 PM (tLjUh)
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I didn't have a chance to look at everything in the mailbox but I did see a few things from you.

Posted by: Weasel at May 28, 2023 07:21 PM (RG6z4)

48 Good evening, everyone.

I took shameless advantage of PSA's Memorial Day Weekend sale to get all the pieces, parts and paraphernalia required for a fully functional 20" rifle length AR-15.

Assembly will have to wait until later in June as next weekend I'm gonna be camping at Shiloh National Battlefield and walking the artillery positions. Give 'em a whiff of the grape.

Posted by: BifBewalski at May 28, 2023 07:21 PM (3CCua)

49 Scuba Dude, you will be missed for sure.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 28, 2023 07:21 PM (u23W4)

50 1800 Hours tomorrow (Pacific Time) I have a silent toast to those who stood the line and gave all. All are welcome to join in.
Posted by: Diogenes

I'll be with you in spirits.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 28, 2023 07:21 PM (m/Csr)

51 Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 28, 2023 07:09 PM (fe7in)

I'm thinking about bringing out some of the collectable shooters, some of them featuring in previous Gun Threads. H&K P7 and Colt Single Action Army are a couple of them.

Posted by: Ed L at May 28, 2023 07:21 PM (yRXSd)

52 44 That's a shame. Word has it RancherBob has a plate at 1000 yards and I knew you would want a chance to work on it.

Posted by: Weasel at May 28, 2023 07:20 PM

Maybe next year. Only way I could make it this year if my supervisor changed his trip or I win the lottery freeing me to do what ever the heck I want. ;-)

But you all have fun!!! That is what MoMe's are all about!

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 28, 2023 07:22 PM (fe7in)

53 hung on the tree and forgot. Probably from the 30s.
He was allowed to keep it.
Posted by: Diogenes

Allowed to keep it now that is cool.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 28, 2023 07:22 PM (m/Csr)

54 And, Weasel, I'm sure it was just a coincidence the Muddy Waters song ended up just above those other videos....

Posted by: GWB at May 28, 2023 07:22 PM (t+Wem)

55 Sad day when you come home with 15 long guns, half a dozen pistols and a hundred pounds or more of ammo... Just returned home from my brother-in-laws' place. He is in hospice care with maybe 2 months at the outside left. Any morons in the east Tennessee area should give me a shout if you'd like to peruse the collection. Nothing special, mostly older milsurp bolt actions. All proceeds go to his estate.

Posted by: radar at May 28, 2023 07:23 PM (YhPao)

56 Moose out front should have told you.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 28, 2023 07:06 PM (Wnv9h)

Heh.

Posted by: GWB at May 28, 2023 07:23 PM (t+Wem)

57 FPC link
https://www.firearmspolicy.org/new_membership_archive

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 28, 2023 07:24 PM (t/2Uw)

58 Thanks for your service, Veterans!

Thanks even more for your service, to the Veterans that gave all and only get the read the gub thread by invisibly watching over the shoulder of their loved ones!!!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 28, 2023 07:24 PM (HlyYF)

59 Quick flyby,

Just got home from a lovely outdoor range trip with both of my boys. 100 yard max. We brought two ARs, a Mosin-Nagant, an AK, and a Mossburg shotty. Couple pistols.

Fun fun fun!

Off to niece's high school graduation, gotta shower off the gunpowder and lead first!

Thank you for the thread, weasel! I will ready up later! Smooches, horde!

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 28, 2023 07:24 PM (U2p+3)

60 Great stuff, Weasel. Thanks muchly. Still fascinated by the SR-71 and saw Muddy Waters live twice back in the day.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 28, 2023 07:24 PM (Xrfse)

61 Sorry to hear that radar.

Prayers definitely offered to ease of passing.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(2YtOq) at May 28, 2023 07:25 PM (2YtOq)

62 Bif,
See #46.
I'm really looking forward to shooting it.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 28, 2023 07:25 PM (YGqO/)

63 No range time this week but I think I have finally completed the ridiculously complex and error-prone process for renewing my local club membership. Still no card though so I can't actually use the range yet.

Posted by: Oddbob at May 28, 2023 07:25 PM (nfrXX)

64 Thanks, Blake. He's a damn good man, been a good friend for 30 years or so.

Posted by: radar at May 28, 2023 07:26 PM (YhPao)

65 37 PSA for the TXMoMe, the hotel that offered the rate is offering the same rate this year. Do not book through a 3rd party but call the front desk directly
I will supply that number.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 28, 2023 07:16 PM

Howdy Ben!

And thanks for your hosting and accommodation assistance for the MoMe.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 28, 2023 07:26 PM (HlyYF)

66 Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 28, 2023 07:24 PM (Xrfse)
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I am jealous!

Posted by: Weasel at May 28, 2023 07:27 PM (RG6z4)

67 Every time I'm on the gun thread, I'm reminded anew just how many collectible firearms are available.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(2YtOq) at May 28, 2023 07:27 PM (2YtOq)

68 RMBS, do you have a copy of Weasel's Mid-Range Rifle Clinic that he produced for the 2020 TXMoMe?

Let me know if you don't. I can email it to you.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 28, 2023 07:27 PM (fe7in)

69 Turkish firearms' safety!

https://tinyurl.com/4tysfsj9
[14 seconds; A replier says, as if it makes a difference, that it's out in the sticks and not e.g. downtown Istanbul.]
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at May 28, 2023 07:15 PM (Vwz3I)
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A damned shame. If anyone had tried that when I was in Turkey, (84-85) all hell would have descended on those guys. Turkey was a good assignment.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 28, 2023 07:28 PM (YGqO/)

70 PSA for the TXMoMe, the hotel that offered the rate is offering the same rate this year. Do not book through a 3rd party but call the front desk directly
I will supply that number.
Posted by: Ben Had at May 28, 2023 07:16 PM

When we register?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 28, 2023 07:28 PM (Wnv9h)

71 Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 28, 2023 07:15 PM (63Dwl)

That seems to be a really bad job of "targeting".

Posted by: GWB at May 28, 2023 07:28 PM (t+Wem)

72 First! Just kidding. Still at church supper.

Posted by: Eromero at May 28, 2023 07:29 PM (DXbAa)

73 Old radar tech at the geemail, duh.... used to be you could click the email in the link. I've been a lurker here since Ace was chiseling the blog on stone tablets.

Posted by: radar at May 28, 2023 07:29 PM (YhPao)

74 That's a shame. Word has it RancherBob has a plate at 1000 yards and I knew you would want a chance to work on it.

Posted by: Weasel at May 28, 2023 07:20 PM

I am sticking to my strengths - working on the plate at the RancherBob/CHQ BBQ!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 28, 2023 07:29 PM (HlyYF)

75 Okay, that works, Weasel.
So, scoobs. After the regular aspirin shoot today (at which I sucked - but was not last), the match director added a fifth stage. 50 yards, 10 shots, 30 seconds. You must hit the right side of a slightly loosened water bottle top and spin it off.
I shot first, spun it on the 9th shot. Only other shooter out of 8 to spin it, did it in 3 shots. But he shot though the top, I only nicked it.
Still, 3 shots wins. But it made up for 0 out of 10 Tums.

Posted by: RI Red at May 28, 2023 07:29 PM (tLjUh)

76 RMBS, do you have a copy of Weasel's Mid-Range Rifle Clinic that he produced for the 2020 TXMoMe?

Let me know if you don't. I can email it to you.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 28, 2023 07:27 PM

I don't. I'd appreciate a copy. Thanks.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 28, 2023 07:29 PM (Wnv9h)

77 Posted by: radar at May 28, 2023 07:23 PM (YhPao)

Radar, my condolences. Hopefully, there are no NFA items among the lot. I remember Whig saying that transferring NFA items after the death of the individual holding the tax stamp is a real PITA.

Screaming in Digital, if you're out there, you might want to talk to Radar.

Posted by: Ed L at May 28, 2023 07:30 PM (yRXSd)

78 55 Posted by: radar at May 28, 2023 07:23 PM

Sorry to hear about your brother in law. Prayers to you and the rest of the family.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 28, 2023 07:30 PM (fe7in)

79 Every time I'm on the gun thread, I'm reminded anew just how many collectible firearms are available.

Posted by: blake

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I'd pretty much settled in and had everything I wanted for the most part, and then I saw a magazine article about a Coast Guard M1 Garand.

Posted by: Every child has a normal childhood, we're watching it be used as an attack at May 28, 2023 07:30 PM (5/7b/)

80 Damn it is better than I thought it would be.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 28, 2023 07:20 PM (YGqO/)

Isn't that such a great feeling? "I put this together, and now I can make it go bang!"

Posted by: GWB at May 28, 2023 07:31 PM (t+Wem)

81 Maybe next year. Only way I could make it this year if my supervisor changed his trip or I win the lottery freeing me to do what ever the heck I want. ;-)

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 28, 2023 07:22 PM

Can't help with the lottery numbers. However, we CAN help with influencing supervisors to change their plans!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 28, 2023 07:31 PM (HlyYF)

82 See #46.
I'm really looking forward to shooting it.
Posted by: Diogenes

Niiiice. Smash stole my first one. Both have the A2 butt stock with the cleaning kit cubby.

Now I need to get three more 1,000 round ammo cans so they both have a basic load appropriate for zombie times

I lurve me some iron site AR weapons. What are you using for sotes?

Posted by: BifBewalski at May 28, 2023 07:32 PM (3CCua)

83 He's a damn good man, been a good friend for 30 years or so.
Posted by: radar

Spend your time remembering how he lived.
Prayers for you and yours.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 28, 2023 07:32 PM (m/Csr)

84 Today in Stupid Gun Tricks:

@ViNguyen May 27
Police investigating shooting in hotel room in downtown Chicago. Officers were called to Hotel Chicago for two men shot in one of the rooms. Police say 23-year-old man was handling his gun when the gun went off.
@nbcchicago

( Supposedly the man was an off-duty cop from another city. Sounds sus, as the kids say. )

Posted by: weft cut loop at May 28, 2023 07:32 PM (jzzG8)

85 radar,

Prayers going out to your BIL!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 28, 2023 07:33 PM (HlyYF)

86 For folks living in states that have outlawed semi-auto rifles what is the best substitute for a semi?

Posted by: Goatweed at May 28, 2023 07:33 PM (0Q/6W)

87 I remember Whig saying that transferring NFA items after the death of the individual holding the tax stamp is a real PITA.

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Don't look now, but that's part of the ATF's pistol brace plan.

And folks aren't talking about it, but the SBR designation adds not only administrative hurdles but $200 to the cost of the pistol when selling it, most of which aren't high-priced guns to begin with. The market won't exist.

Posted by: Every child has a normal childhood, we're watching it be used as an attack at May 28, 2023 07:33 PM (5/7b/)

88 75 Posted by: RI Red at May 28, 2023 07:29 PM

Nice Red!! Were you thinking righty tighty lefty loosey when you were shooting? ;-)

Basically you have to kiss that cap it sounds

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 28, 2023 07:33 PM (fe7in)

89 That is sad radar.

Posted by: Skip at May 28, 2023 07:33 PM (xhxe8)

90 Nothing to trigger the alphabet kids. A handful of mausers, a few commie tomato stakes, that sort of thing.

Posted by: radar at May 28, 2023 07:33 PM (YhPao)

91 >>Thanks for your service, Veterans!

A good buddy texted me and thanked me for my service today - I texted back "Thank you! But I'm not dead yet!"

Posted by: Boswell at May 28, 2023 07:33 PM (K+UlC)

92 You may know where the switches are in an RS-71 but without the support equipment and special jet fuel, good luck starting it.

The engine starter might be the easiest thing to acquire, you just need to mate two Chevy V-8 engines. You might even be able to recreate the computers that controlled all the intake plumbing and routing of the air.

But the JP-7 with the special additives and accompanying KC-135Q will be the real mission killer.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 28, 2023 07:33 PM (VGg6T)

93 Supposedly the man was an off-duty cop from another city. Sounds sus, as the kids say.

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Haven't been around many big city LEOs, eh?

Posted by: Every child has a normal childhood, we're watching it be used as an attack at May 28, 2023 07:34 PM (5/7b/)

94 Isn't that such a great feeling? "I put this together, and now I can make it go bang!"
Posted by: GWB at May 28, 2023 07:31 PM (t+Wem)

It's awesome! Although I will admit I had a top notch armorer looking over my shoulder and knew the tricky stuff...like when you need to insert a dinky l'il part into a dinky l'il slot. (think trigger group).

Posted by: Diogenes at May 28, 2023 07:34 PM (YGqO/)

95 "For folks living in states that have outlawed semi-auto rifles what is the best substitute for a semi?"

Get to know a good bolt action rifle, I suppose.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at May 28, 2023 07:34 PM (MeG8a)

96 Thanks for the video on Trinity Site. I grew up in Alamogordo, and as a school kid, along with regular tourist groups, we had regular visits to the site. Then they discovered there was enough residual radiation to pare it back a bit. Oops.

Posted by: goatexchange at May 28, 2023 07:35 PM (APPN8)

97 I think I would've just trashed the mag...and test fired from the vise.

Posted by: BignJames at May 28, 2023 07:35 PM (AwYPR)

98 Posted by: Anna Puma at May 28, 2023 07:33 PM (VGg6T)
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RS-71? Well yeah! That's a whole different dealio. Much more complex.

Posted by: Weasel at May 28, 2023 07:35 PM (RG6z4)

99 RMBS, I'll email you the number. Remember this is TX, no registration, you just say you want to be here.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 28, 2023 07:36 PM (u23W4)

100 If I had my way Memorial Day would last a month and Pride would last maybe 10 minutes, not a month.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at May 28, 2023 07:37 PM (MeG8a)

101 Also, nice pic. Looks better than a calendar.

Posted by: weft cut loop at May 28, 2023 07:37 PM (jzzG8)

102 Posted by: radar at May 28, 2023 07:23 PM (YhPao)

I wish I lived much closer. And had more money. I would love to make a fair offer to the estate for something.

I hope the passing is as peaceful as possible, and the family is comforted in this time.

Posted by: GWB at May 28, 2023 07:37 PM (t+Wem)

103 86 For folks living in states that have outlawed semi-auto rifles what is the best substitute for a semi?

Posted by: Goatweed at May 28, 2023 07:33 PM

I would recommend a moving company semi!

(You know, if you like constitutional rights, non-fascist governance, and stuff like that.)

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 28, 2023 07:38 PM (HlyYF)

104 Posted by: Ben Had at May 28, 2023 07:36 PM (u23W4)
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We feel the registration process is necessary given our location behind enemy lines.

Posted by: Weasel at May 28, 2023 07:38 PM (RG6z4)

105 Hi. A lurker here with a question. I have a gun safe in an unheated and unventilated basement. Can’t get the humidity down. Tried an Eva-Dry and a PEETs electric dehumidifier. No luck. Any thoughts or suggestions will be much appreciated. Thanks.

Posted by: Novadog at May 28, 2023 07:38 PM (qnTnF)

106 "For folks living in states that have outlawed semi-auto rifles what is the best substitute for a semi?"

Look for a '92 winchester clone in .357 (Rossi makes a decent one).

Posted by: radar at May 28, 2023 07:38 PM (YhPao)

107 Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(2YtOq) at May 28, 2023 07:27 PM (2YtOq)

If you're serious about dipping more than a couple of toes in the world of collectable firearms, I recommend getting books on the ones that interest you. These references will pay for themselves many times over.

Some desirable firearms have zoomed up in price faster than tech stocks in the lead up to the Dot-Com bubble. Colt Marine pistols surplused by the USMC and Colt were going for $5k when they first hit the market in 2018. Today, they're in the $9-10k range.

Posted by: Ed L at May 28, 2023 07:39 PM (yRXSd)

108 Had my local Town Republican Council meeting on Thursday, and our town's Republican State Rep gave a report that evening; he just got back from Hartford. The CT Legislature just passed a bill (6667) banning open carry in the state. It passed on a bipartisan basis (9 R's voted for it). They were in a tough position, because CT. Fortunately, our Rep is in a safe R district, so he had no trouble doing so.

The blue states are going to be even tougher to practise your 2A rights. 'Ghost guns', 'Assault weapons' etc. etc., all the lefty bugaboos were covered in the bill as well.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 28, 2023 07:39 PM (U2Ds3)

109 I lurve me some iron site AR weapons. What are you using for sotes?
Posted by: BifBewalski at May 28, 2023 07:32 PM (3CCua)

Same.
Even with the older eyes, when I look at close or distant targets, there's no blur. Got the same stock. Now I have a place to put the cleaning kit I kept from Army days.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 28, 2023 07:39 PM (YGqO/)

110
But the JP-7 with the special additives and accompanying KC-135Q will be the real mission killer.
Posted by: Anna Puma

That doesn't even broach the subject of it leaking fuel until it gets warmed up (actually hot) and then the metal expands sealing it up.
Or that you have to have that tanker over the Farallon Islands because you can only take off with enough fuel to get out there and fill up.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 28, 2023 07:40 PM (m/Csr)

111 what is the best substitute for a semi?
Posted by: Goatweed at May 28, 2023 07:33 PM (0Q/6W)

A full-auto?
A rope and a lamppost?

Posted by: GWB at May 28, 2023 07:40 PM (t+Wem)

112 A good buddy texted me and thanked me for my service today - I texted back "Thank you! But I'm not dead yet!"

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I was talking to the kids about it and asking some questions to see if they understood, and the oldest said it was a day to celebrate the service members who had died- and then she caught herself and felt bad. But we talked a little more, and we realized it was sort of a celebration in its own way. A somber one, but kind of a form of celebration nonetheless. The realization that men would do that for us calls for the living, non-serving members of society to recognize the dead would do that for us in a way beyond just remembering that they did.

Not celebrating, and not celebrating their deaths, but honoring through a quiet, humble awe that there are men that would, and did, die for me and my family.

Posted by: Every child has a normal childhood, we're watching it be used as an attack at May 28, 2023 07:40 PM (5/7b/)

113 Oh, when I said my rep had 'no trouble doing so', I meant that he had no problem voting against this monstrosity of a bill.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 28, 2023 07:41 PM (U2Ds3)

114 Posted by: Novadog at May 28, 2023 07:38 PM (qnTnF)
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I use the little water absorbers in a small bucket designed for basements. Damp-Rid? Something like that. Little white granules that absorb humidity.

Posted by: Weasel at May 28, 2023 07:41 PM (RG6z4)

115 "Any thoughts or suggestions will be much appreciated."

Move the guns out of the basement.
Not being sarcastic.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at May 28, 2023 07:42 PM (MeG8a)

116 100 If I had my way Memorial Day would last a month and Pride would last maybe 10 minutes, not a month.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at May 28, 2023 07:37 PM

Agreed!

We should also get a spiffy flag for OUR month.

I am thinking of something with 13 red and white stripes for the original 13 colonies, and 50 white stars on a field of blue for the 50 states.

However, I doubt Target would carry a flag like that!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 28, 2023 07:42 PM (HlyYF)

117 Weasel thanks as ever for gunz, see-gars, and today, even nukes (sorta).

Actually I have been thinking a bundle/budget cigar review would be handy, and here you've done one. Haven't had a Quorum in a long time, used to buy their bundles (habano, or original, I think). There were always good for "golf cigars".

Maybe it's the penny-pinching reloader in me, but it's a game to get my regular sticks at lowest possible price, and actually with sales and specials and what-not I often mange to get 'em for close to bundle prices (under $4, often well under). Only rarely do I take out the pry bar, open my wallet, and spend $$, and only for "special occasion" cigars.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 28, 2023 07:42 PM (OTzUX)

118 76 Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 28, 2023 07:29 PM

Just emailed it to you

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 28, 2023 07:43 PM (fe7in)

119 Nice racking.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 28, 2023 07:43 PM (s12c9)

120 Tried an Eva-Dry and a PEETs electric dehumidifier. No luck. Any thoughts or suggestions will be much appreciated. Thanks.

Posted by: Novadog

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I dealt with that in our last house, and I ended up using the small pots of dessicants that absorb water like a mofo. I had to dump them regularly and make sure not to spill any while handling things, but it did a good job.

I bet you could find knockoff brands online now and not pay the name brand prices for what I used to have to buy.

Posted by: Every child has a normal childhood, we're watching it be used as an attack at May 28, 2023 07:43 PM (5/7b/)

121 and accompanying KC-135Q
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 28, 2023 07:33 PM (VGg6T)
NKAWOTG

NOBODY kicks a** without tanker gas, but especially not the SR-71. It can barely get it's foot in the air without it. (And you're better off with the T-model Kc-135. That's the R-model engines with the special plumbing.)

Posted by: GWB at May 28, 2023 07:43 PM (t+Wem)

122 Trinity site is on the list. Haven't watched the video yet. I think there are public visitations twice a year. Have a family connection to the Manhattan Project, and a lifelong interest in nukes.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 28, 2023 07:43 PM (OTzUX)

123 Weasel, no slight intended and apologies.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 28, 2023 07:43 PM (u23W4)

124 Guy did a great job on restoring that 1911, why not try it out?

Posted by: Skip at May 28, 2023 07:44 PM (xhxe8)

125 Good evening gub threaders and all the ships at sea.

Sra blaster and I are in the sunshine state (Governor Ron DeSantis the sign says) and we are going to be doing some stuff with blaster acres over the next couple of days.

So not much for the GT tonight other than I have my Heritage Rough Rider Deadman's Hand loaded with snake shot and I will be wearing it in a cowboy holster while on the land.

Posted by: blaster at May 28, 2023 07:44 PM (HN48O)

126 Just looked it up. DampRid was the moisture absorber I'd used.

Posted by: Every child has a normal childhood, we're watching it be used as an attack at May 28, 2023 07:45 PM (5/7b/)

127 I use the little water absorbers in a small bucket designed for basements. Damp-Rid? Something like that. Little white granules that absorb humidity.

Posted by: Weasel at May 28, 2023 07:41 PM (RG6z4)

Silica?...aint't it?

Posted by: BignJames at May 28, 2023 07:45 PM (AwYPR)

128 what is the best substitute for a semi?
Posted by: Goatweed

Lever-action in .45-70?

Posted by: weft cut loop at May 28, 2023 07:45 PM (jzzG8)

129 Posted by: Ben Had at May 28, 2023 07:43 PM (u23W4)
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No worries! Just letting people know why we do it that way!

Posted by: Weasel at May 28, 2023 07:45 PM (RG6z4)

130 I'm confused.

I'm watching two Friends episodes with Alec Baldwin guest starring but he hasn't shot anyone yet.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at May 28, 2023 07:45 PM (Vwz3I)

131 The CT Legislature just passed a bill (6667) banning open carry in the state. It passed on a bipartisan basis (9 R's voted for it).

CT, the ancestral home of my beloved High Standard pistols. *sigh*.

Posted by: Oddbob at May 28, 2023 07:46 PM (nfrXX)

132 Dangit, Weasel beat me to it again.

Posted by: Every child has a normal childhood, we're watching it be used as an attack at May 28, 2023 07:46 PM (5/7b/)

133 Posted by: BignJames at May 28, 2023 07:45 PM (AwYPR)
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Not sure but the little suckers sure do absorb humidity!

Posted by: Weasel at May 28, 2023 07:46 PM (RG6z4)

134 Posted by: Novadog at May 28, 2023 07:38 PM (qnTnF)

Yikes! Do you have any idea what the source of the moisture is? You really might want to solve that before anything else.

(I have used a large mechanical dehumidifier when my hot water tank leaked. But you have to empty the tub or find a way to run a hose out - in a basement that will be hard. It also tends to raise the temp in the area.)

Posted by: GWB at May 28, 2023 07:46 PM (t+Wem)

135 That doesn't even broach the subject of it leaking fuel until it gets warmed up (actually hot) and then the metal expands sealing it up.
Or that you have to have that tanker over the Farallon Islands because you can only take off with enough fuel to get out there and fill up.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 28, 2023 07:40 PM

Are you trying to tell me that Flex-Seal would NOT stay put at Mach 3.5?

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 28, 2023 07:47 PM (HlyYF)

136 Novadog maybe at least bags of charcoal or there are other absorption options available to keep in the safe.

Posted by: Skip at May 28, 2023 07:47 PM (xhxe8)

137 Trinity site is on the list. Haven't watched the video yet. I think there are public visitations twice a year. Have a family connection to the Manhattan Project, and a lifelong interest in nukes.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 28, 2023 07:43 PM (OTzUX)

Ditto on the visit.
And I play a lot of NukeMap.
Does that make me a bad person?

Posted by: Diogenes at May 28, 2023 07:47 PM (YGqO/)

138 Screaming in Digital, if you're out there, you might want to talk to Radar.
Posted by: Ed L
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I'm here, but I'm not even sure what NFA means. I really hope it didn't apply to my situation, because we did not do anything like that. There was no will and we didn't have to go through probate.

radar, so sorry about your brother-in-law.

Posted by: screaming in digital at May 28, 2023 07:48 PM (aBJcM)

139 *sighs*

It was originally called the RS-71. Reconnaissance, Strategic. Until LBJ misspoke and transposed the letters. And to avoid embarrassing a sitting President, the USAF called it the SR-71.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 28, 2023 07:48 PM (VGg6T)

140 andycanuck even if he does shoot someone it won't be his fault.

Posted by: Skip at May 28, 2023 07:48 PM (xhxe8)

141 The lever action '92 carbine is a 'cowboy gun', so it doesn't have the stigma that 'evil black rifles' carry. Yet it will hold 10 rounds of .357 mag, has a reasonable rate of fire, is quick enough to reload through the side port, and given .357 ballistics in a 16 inch barrel, you won't have to shoot most anything twice. The only disadvantage is the difficulty of mounting an optic.
Plus, you can legitimately shout "Fill yer hands, you sonsawitches!"

Posted by: radar at May 28, 2023 07:49 PM (YhPao)

142 *sighs*

It was originally called the RS-71. Reconnaissance, Strategic. Until LBJ misspoke and transposed the letters. And to avoid embarrassing a sitting President, the USAF called it the SR-71.

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Don't got the sense God gave a jelly donut.

Posted by: Every child has a normal childhood, we're watching it be used as an attack at May 28, 2023 07:49 PM (5/7b/)

143 NFA - National Firearms Act. Regulates (among other things) machine guns, silencers, short barrel rifles and AOW - Any Other Weapon. Kind of a catch all for anything from pen guns to grenades.

Posted by: radar at May 28, 2023 07:51 PM (YhPao)

144 Not to veer into that bottomless ditch, but I coulda sworn that SCOTUS issued a ruling a few years back that expressly protected a category of firearms that included all semi- AR platform models.

I know court rulings are only binding when a district court is usurping presidential national security authority, using feelings and stuff as a basis, but seems that at some point maybe the rulings of the "highest court in the land" might be used to vaporize these state bans.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 28, 2023 07:51 PM (OTzUX)

145 >>> 106 "For folks living in states that have outlawed semi-auto rifles what is the best substitute for a semi?"

Look for a '92 winchester clone in .357 (Rossi makes a decent one).
Posted by: radar at May 28, 2023 07:38 PM (YhPao)

Marlin and especially Henry offer nice lever-actions of various calibers.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at May 28, 2023 07:51 PM (llON8)

146 Are you trying to tell me that Flex-Seal would NOT stay put at Mach 3.5?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot

I wouldn't hazard a guess; but, I'm sure you can rent an SR71 and a pilot and find out. Or you might bribe an airman to put some on the plane... but, I suspect you don't want NSA Bob to know about it.
Let us know what you find out...

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 28, 2023 07:51 PM (m/Csr)

147 Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 28, 2023 07:51 PM (m/Csr)
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Watch the video and you will totally know how to fly it.

Posted by: Weasel at May 28, 2023 07:53 PM (RG6z4)

148 95 "For folks living in states that have outlawed semi-auto rifles what is the best substitute for a semi?"

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A full automatic?

You're already a criminal. In for a dime, in for a dollar.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 28, 2023 07:53 PM (s12c9)

149 It was originally called the RS-71. Reconnaissance, Strategic. Until LBJ misspoke and transposed the letters. And to avoid embarrassing a sitting President, the USAF called it the SR-71.

There is a story (maybe even true) that that marble-mouthed jackass is the reason that the Pedernales River here in TX is pronounced "perd-nal-les."

Posted by: Oddbob at May 28, 2023 07:53 PM (nfrXX)

150 The realization that men would do that for us calls for the living, non-serving members of society to recognize the dead would do that for us in a way beyond just remembering that they did.

Posted by: Every child has a normal childhood, we're watching it be used as an attack at May 28, 2023 07:40 PM (5/7b/)

It calls for us - veterans and not - to live in a way to make their sacrifice worthy. And, yes, it is a celebration - not that they died, but that such men lived.

As the fictional RAdm. George Tarrant said, "Where do we get such men?" The answer is that we grow them - and like any garden, if we neglect their fertilizer (faith, love of neighbor and of country, and charity) and the weeding, we get a crap garden in which nothing good grows.

Ladies and gentlemen, To our honored dead!

Posted by: GWB at May 28, 2023 07:53 PM (t+Wem)

151 I worked with a guy at a large NW-based aviation company who was a SR-71 driver. Once you got him in the SCIF, he had some interesting things to say about his experiences.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 28, 2023 07:53 PM (YGqO/)

152 Posted by: Novadog at May 28, 2023 07:38 PM (qnTnF)

Is your safe made by one of the major safe makers (Liberty, Fort Knox, etc.)? If so, it could be retrofitted with the proper accessories from the OEM. You'll have to talk w/ a local dealer about your requirements.

The fact that your basement is unheated and unconditioned is a major part of the problem. At a minimum, you'll have run power to the safe to operate an electrical dehumidifier in the summer months. If you have condensation problems in the winter, freeze-thaw action can hurt your safe's locking mechanisms. Best solution (if possible) is to get the safe and its contents inside your house where your home's HVAC helps fight Mother Nature's attacks on the safe and its contents.

Posted by: Ed L at May 28, 2023 07:53 PM (yRXSd)

153 Hi. A lurker here with a question. I have a gun safe in an unheated and unventilated basement. Can’t get the humidity down. Tried an Eva-Dry and a PEETs electric dehumidifier. No luck. Any thoughts or suggestions will be much appreciated. Thanks.
Posted by: Novadog

First World Problem.

Put it into it's own room (2x4, insulation, gyp board are relatively cheap), vapor barrier / sealed fllor and walls. Put a small dehumidifyer in the room set to max. Insatll small condesate pump so you don't have to empty the bucket twice a day.
Might even ditch the safe and just put a heavy commercial sttel door on the little room.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 28, 2023 07:53 PM (ga8qR)

154 RMBS, I'll email you the number. Remember this is TX, no registration, you just say you want to be here.
Posted by: Ben Had at May 28, 2023 07:36 PM

Thanks. And what Weasel said. Living behind enemy lines does that to a Moron's thinking.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 28, 2023 07:53 PM (Wnv9h)

155 We should also get a spiffy flag for OUR month.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 28, 2023 07:42 PM (HlyYF)

Amen, PI, Amen!

Posted by: GWB at May 28, 2023 07:54 PM (t+Wem)

156 Diogenes no, and you still are an OK person if you like playing with the circular calculator thinggy included in the old editions of The Effects of Nuclear Weapons.

I do like this trend of Weasel posting nuke-related stuff.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 28, 2023 07:54 PM (OTzUX)

157 coulda sworn that SCOTUS issued a ruling a few years back that expressly protected a category of firearms that included all semi- AR platform models.

Posted by: rhomboid

You remember correctly.
The various States are trying to stuff the court dockets and make all their citizens Felons.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 28, 2023 07:55 PM (m/Csr)

158 Running out of hobby things to do should mix up some black powder to try at least on 4th of July in blank cartridges.

Posted by: Skip at May 28, 2023 07:55 PM (xhxe8)

159 I'm a Glock guy but I really like my Beretta 92FS. I only bought it so I could have a mag companion with my CX Storm carbine. I should have bought it sooner.

Posted by: polynikes at May 28, 2023 07:55 PM (BqNkw)

160
It was originally called the RS-71. Reconnaissance, Strategic. Until LBJ misspoke and transposed the letters. And to avoid embarrassing a sitting President, the USAF called it the SR-71.

I wonder what Biden would have called it?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 28, 2023 07:55 PM (63Dwl)

161 Watch the video and you will totally know how to fly it.
Posted by: Weasel

Heh, I'm also smart enough not to try!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 28, 2023 07:56 PM (m/Csr)

162 So not much for the GT tonight other than I have my Heritage Rough Rider Deadman's Hand loaded with snake shot and I will be wearing it in a cowboy holster while on the land.

Posted by: blaster at May 28, 2023 07:44 PM

I got the Rough Rider with the 6.5" barrel for my youngest daughter. Shot it yesterday for the first time.

It was shooting so sweetly with CCI Standard Velocity, that I peeled back my hearing protection on one ear.

Nope, it cracked super-sonic and made another tiny hole near the center of the target. I just could not believe the absolute lack of recoil.

Are you pretty accurate with yours?

(It is the first gun for this daughter, so teaching her safe handling and gun rules were my top priority.)

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 28, 2023 07:56 PM (HlyYF)

163 I continue to be fascinated by the RS-71. Heh.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 28, 2023 07:56 PM (Xrfse)

164
Heh, I'm also smart enough not to try!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 28, 2023 07:56 PM (m/Csr)
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Well then what're you doing here?!

Posted by: Weasel at May 28, 2023 07:57 PM (RG6z4)

165 Pillage Idiot, no thanks necessary. You all make this what it is

Posted by: Ben Had at May 28, 2023 07:57 PM (u23W4)

166 Guns.

Also respect for those who died for a country now occupied and controlled by cunts.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, GotG vol 3 review at May 28, 2023 07:57 PM (xcxpd)

167 but I'm not even sure what NFA means

Posted by: screaming in digital at May 28, 2023 07:48 PM (aBJcM)

National Firearms Act. The one that basically made it REALLY hard to get machine guns and silencers and stuff, because Al Capone was a nasty man.

Posted by: GWB at May 28, 2023 07:57 PM (t+Wem)

168 Posted by: Novadog

Did you say why it can't be moved into the house?

Posted by: polynikes at May 28, 2023 07:58 PM (BqNkw)

169 Posted by: radar at May 28, 2023 07:23 PM

Prayers up for your BIL and your family, radar.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 28, 2023 07:59 PM (Wnv9h)

170 Remember folks, and A2 stock will store over twice as many M&Ms as a Sopmod stock.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 28, 2023 07:59 PM (a3Q+t)

171 Anyway, did get to the range, did some more side by side testing with my PSA Dagger and my CZ P-07. The PSA red dot battery died, so testing was done with iron sights.

I'll spare you the nitty gritty and end up with the CZ winning in accuracy with iron sights. The P-07 does have a heavy, but smooth, DA trigger pull but at speed, you don't notice it. Or I don't.

So the P-07 is back as my EDC until I get new CR1632 batteries and maybe afterwards. It is a damn fine pistol, frankly.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, GotG vol 3 review at May 28, 2023 07:59 PM (xcxpd)

172 The airframe of the SR-71, as others have pointed out, is quite porous. And for a very good reason. Metal expands as it heats. Don't plan for that and you get trouble with a capital T.

If anyone wants to OD on Project Oxcart, the A-12, the YF-12, and finally the SR-17 you might perchance will want to peruse Lockheed SR-71 Blackbird. Paul F. Crickmore. Osprey Air Combat series. First published in 1986. 200 pages.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 28, 2023 07:59 PM (VGg6T)

173 is quick enough to reload through the side port

Posted by: radar at May 28, 2023 07:49 PM (YhPao)

Do they make things that would make that really easy? Can you put a bunch of rounds in a tube and slide them in? (I have tried this with a shotgun and it... sorta works.)

Posted by: GWB at May 28, 2023 07:59 PM (t+Wem)

174 I wonder what Biden would have called it?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 28, 2023 07:55 PM

You know...the thing!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 28, 2023 08:00 PM (Wnv9h)

175 The active ingredient in Damp Rid is anhydrous calcium chloride.

That material is MUCH MORE hygroscopic than the silica pellets. That is why it must be in a bucket or tray, because it will literally weep moisture - even at very low room humidity levels.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 28, 2023 08:00 PM (HlyYF)

176 Well then what're you doing here?!
Posted by: Weasel

Laughing much of the time!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 28, 2023 08:00 PM (m/Csr)

177 159 I'm a Glock guy but I really like my Beretta 92FS. I only bought it so I could have a mag companion with my CX Storm carbine. I should have bought it sooner.
Posted by: polynikes at May 28, 2023 07:55 PM (BqNkw)

I'm a Glock guy but the Beretta 92 (preFS) was my very first pistol. Very accurate and reliable. Had over 20k rounds through before I swapped it for the XD9.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, GotG vol 3 review at May 28, 2023 08:00 PM (xcxpd)

178 Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, GotG vol 3 review at May 28, 2023 07:59 PM (xcxpd)

Will you start carry extra batteries in your gun bag now?

Posted by: polynikes at May 28, 2023 08:01 PM (BqNkw)

179 GWB there are tubular speed loaders for shotguns, for matches, saw them a few years back when I shot a steel madness thing once a month, there were always a few scatter-gun enthusiasts in the mix. A tubular speed loader for a lever action is an interesting idea.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 28, 2023 08:01 PM (OTzUX)

180 Posted by: screaming in digital at May 28, 2023 07:48 PM (aBJcM)

I thought you might want to pick up one of radar's BIL's firearms. You're only one state over. Any transaction would have to go through an FFL (Federal Firearms License) holder because you're out of state.

Posted by: Ed L at May 28, 2023 08:01 PM (yRXSd)

181
For me, living my life in a worthy manner means emulating my role model, my Dad. He was an NCO in a line outfit that saw combat in the Pacific.

Figure patterning behavior after him couldn't be all that bad so that is what I have done.

Posted by: irongrampa at May 28, 2023 08:01 PM (KATBx)

182 Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 28, 2023 08:00 PM (m/Csr)
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Glad to hear some people appreciate my sense of humor!

Posted by: Weasel at May 28, 2023 08:02 PM (2FWUN)

183 Do they make things that would make that really easy? Can you put a bunch of rounds in a tube and slide them in? (I have tried this with a shotgun and it... sorta works.)
Posted by: GWB

I don't think so, you have to push in and forward a the same time. Resistance increases as you load more.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 28, 2023 08:03 PM (m/Csr)

184 Remember folks, and A2 stock will store over twice as many M&Ms as a Sopmod stock.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 28, 2023 07:59 PM (a3Q+t)

Is that still true if they're still in the wrapper from the MRE?

Posted by: GWB at May 28, 2023 08:04 PM (t+Wem)

185 146 Are you trying to tell me that Flex-Seal would NOT stay put at Mach 3.5?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot

I wouldn't hazard a guess; but, I'm sure you can rent an SR71 and a pilot and find out.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 28, 2023 07:51 PM

No. No. No!

I saw the commercial pitch man go boating in a glass boat held together ONLY with Flex Seal.

Surely the SR-71 commercial with him in the cockpit is coming out this summer!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 28, 2023 08:04 PM (HlyYF)

186 Posted by: irongrampa at May 28, 2023 08:01 PM (KATBx)
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That has always been EXACTLY my objective, too!

Posted by: Weasel at May 28, 2023 08:04 PM (RG6z4)

187 If Lt. Cmdr Lyndon B. Johnson had been shot down during during a bombing raid on Rabaul, he would have been a Congressional footnote in somebody's research paper.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 28, 2023 08:04 PM (VGg6T)

188 Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, GotG vol 3 review at May 28, 2023 08:00 PM (xcxpd)

That's a lot of rounds. What made you buy the XD instead of another Beretta?

Posted by: polynikes at May 28, 2023 08:06 PM (BqNkw)

189 You know who else was a Glock guy?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 28, 2023 08:06 PM (a3Q+t)

190 I thought you might want to pick up one of radar's BIL's firearms. You're only one state over. Any transaction would have to go through an FFL (Federal Firearms License) holder because you're out of state.
Posted by: Ed L
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Oh, ok. I totally misunderstood, as usual. But yes, I'm not far from east TN.

I don't have the funds right now, but someday I will be in the market for a S&W Highway Patrolman (6 inch barrel plz). That's the only purchase I really want to make. I don't even know how to shoot all the gubs I currently have.

Posted by: screaming in digital at May 28, 2023 08:06 PM (aBJcM)

191 Weasel, though for some reason they've crept up in price to above-bundle levels, Oliva's Saison cigars are a bundle-style that in my limited experience is quite good.

Another idea is seconds. CigarPage frequently has seconds for Oliva cigars, sometimes other brands, they're just cosmetic seconds, no effect on how they taste or burn, but at prices half or less of the regular/full price for "firsts" of the same blend.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 28, 2023 08:06 PM (OTzUX)

192 Just watched the 1911 restoration video. It's obviously an early M1911, manufactured in 1914, but I swear that it has an M1911A1 arched mainspring housing. What gives? He mentioned the barrel was replaced. Were other parts replaced as well, maybe?

Posted by: That Deplorable SOB Van Owen at May 28, 2023 08:07 PM (PWe8a)

193 Posted by: screaming in digital at May 28, 2023 08:06 PM (aBJcM)
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Remind me to bring mine to WA.

Posted by: Weasel at May 28, 2023 08:07 PM (2FWUN)

194 Thanks for the gub thread Weasel!

Gotta run to dinner.

Everyone behave this week - looks like Weasel is staying in the thread. (You know who you are!)

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 28, 2023 08:07 PM (HlyYF)

195 there are tubular speed loaders for shotguns

Posted by: rhomboid at May 28, 2023 08:01 PM (OTzUX)

The ones for matches seem to be particularly hard to find, and very expensive when I do find them. I bought a simpler one (no lever for pushing, 3D-printed) last year, but it seems like it takes a secret handshake or something. It was pretty inexpensive.

I should bring it to the NoVaMoMe.

Posted by: GWB at May 28, 2023 08:07 PM (t+Wem)

196 Thanks for all the advice regarding my humidity issue. Can’t move the safe, no room in the house. I’ll try other recommended dehumidifying products but I think I may have to spend the money on a good commercial grade dehumidifier with a pump. It’s probably the right thing to do, but in my 29+ years that’s the path I don’t often take. Thank you all again.

Posted by: Novadog at May 28, 2023 08:08 PM (59EWv)

197 Posted by: rhomboid at May 28, 2023 08:06 PM (OTzUX)
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Thanks! Lately I've been enjoying Nestor Reserve Maduros in bundles.

Posted by: Weasel at May 28, 2023 08:09 PM (RG6z4)

198 Next time NZFrank shows up, remember that you can get a warm, emotional response from him by offering to buy him a Toohey's or Foster's ale.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 28, 2023 08:09 PM (a3Q+t)

199 137 Trinity site is on the list. Haven't watched the video yet. I think there are public visitations twice a year. Have a family connection to the Manhattan Project, and a lifelong interest in nukes.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 28, 2023 07:43 PM (OTzUX)

Ditto on the visit.
And I play a lot of NukeMap.
Does that make me a bad person?
Posted by: Diogenes at May 28, 2023 07:47 PM (YGqO/)

Not in my book, it doesn't.

Echoing the appreciation for the Trinity site video. It's an odd sort of flex for the US to not only hide where they detonated the first nuke, but instead to offer public access twice a year. Kind of says to the world, "hey, if you liked this, just imagine the stuff we're not talking about...".

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at May 28, 2023 08:09 PM (v23vE)

200 @Ed L. I don't know how much more collecting I have in me...hahahahaha...*wipes tear*

Thanks for the suggestion!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(2YtOq) at May 28, 2023 08:10 PM (2YtOq)

201 (You know who you are!)
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 28, 2023 08:07 PM (HlyYF)

Ummm, no I don't. No, really. No one ever tells me anything. Why are you looking at me that way?

Posted by: GWB at May 28, 2023 08:10 PM (t+Wem)

202 Posted by: GWB at May 28, 2023 08:04 PM (t+Wem)

No. Tried it w/ my rebuilt M16A1 refitted w/ the M16A2 stock. The wrapper takes up too much volume.

Posted by: Ed L at May 28, 2023 08:10 PM (yRXSd)

203 193 Posted by: screaming in digital at May 28, 2023 08:06 PM (aBJcM)
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Remind me to bring mine to WA.
Posted by: Weasel at May 28, 2023 08:07 PM (2FWUN)

Remind me when you're in WA. We should have steak and bourbon and make holes in paper.

Not at the same time. That would be messy.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, GotG vol 3 review at May 28, 2023 08:10 PM (xcxpd)

204 The 2000 hrs CC sitrep has not been filed, Weasel.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 28, 2023 08:10 PM (a3Q+t)

205 *not only not hide where they detonated the first nuke

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at May 28, 2023 08:10 PM (v23vE)

206 Isn't possible any weapon in the government military arsenal could be repaired or parts swapped?
Watch the whole video and did see other parts different than my Colt 1911

Posted by: Skip at May 28, 2023 08:11 PM (xhxe8)

207 No range time, but lots of bench time that can no longer be avoided. Mounds of 30-06 brass requiring trimming and inspection, and time to fully disassemble and clean both M1s (and the 1911).

But the boss wants to get to the range and practice with the Model 60 (and M1 carbine), so that will also happen. Even though days are getting longer, probably won't do after-hours, though. Situation has become much more colorful and interesting - range lies along a now-busy "migration" route not far from where there used to be a border. So far only minor/harmless incidents, but.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 28, 2023 08:11 PM (OTzUX)

208 That's a lot of rounds. What made you buy the XD instead of another Beretta?
Posted by: polynikes at May 28, 2023 08:06 PM (BqNkw)

My neighbor's kid broke in and stole my handguns. I got some of them back but while that was churning through the system, I got the XD. I got sold on striker fired handguns after that.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, GotG vol 3 review at May 28, 2023 08:12 PM (xcxpd)

209 Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 28, 2023 08:07 PM (HlyYF)
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Adios amigo!

Posted by: Weasel at May 28, 2023 08:12 PM (RG6z4)

210 And yes, more batteries will be in the range bag, whenever Amazon ships them to me.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, GotG vol 3 review at May 28, 2023 08:13 PM (xcxpd)

211 Is that still true if they're still in the wrapper from the MRE?
Posted by: GWB at May 28, 2023 08:04 PM

You young'uns sure lived the life with your field rations. Back in my day it was C-Rats, or Lurps if you were very lucky and/or connected.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 28, 2023 08:14 PM (a3Q+t)

212 The 2000 hrs CC sitrep has not been filed, Weasel.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 28, 2023 08:10 PM (a3Q+t)
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Apologies! I've been outside on the deck enjoying a Nicaraguan Corrida cigar, and WD is out here with me. Peeking thru the door, a see a large set of brown/black ears sticking out of the top of CC1.

Posted by: Weasel at May 28, 2023 08:15 PM (RG6z4)

213 Remind me to bring mine to WA.
Posted by: Weasel
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Cool!

When I'm ready to buy, I have no shortage of S&W experts on hand to help me find one. It will be a while though. Had to pay the [expletive deleted] state of MD taxes on J's mother's estate, which no one has received yet...

Posted by: screaming in digital at May 28, 2023 08:15 PM (aBJcM)

214 The active ingredient in Damp Rid is anhydrous calcium chloride.

That material is MUCH MORE hygroscopic than the silica pellets. That is why it must be in a bucket or tray, because it will literally weep moisture - even at very low room humidity levels.

Posted by: Pillage Idio

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I just want to point out that I wrote this scientifically above:

"I dealt with that in our last house, and I ended up using the small pots of dessicants that absorb water like a mofo."

Posted by: Every child has a normal childhood, we're watching it be used as an attack at May 28, 2023 08:17 PM (5/7b/)

215 National Atomic Testing Museum in Vegas also does bus trips out to the National Test Site, last time I checked, but gotta sign up early, they fill up fast. A friend recently visited Vegas and found a bar (liquor store?) that is "atomic-themed", old downtown Vegas. Back in the day they used to have people watch tests from the roof, I think. Always felt lucky being exposed to so much military hardware and operations where I grew up, but being able to *watch* a nuke shot - while sipping a cold one - now that's a whole different level.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 28, 2023 08:17 PM (OTzUX)

216 Posted by: That Deplorable SOB Van Owen at May 28, 2023 08:07 PM (PWe8a)

Many WWI (and pre-WWI) M1911 pistols that went through arsenal or depot rebuilds over the years wound up w/ M1911A1 spare parts (mainspring housing, sights, barrel, trigger, etc.) after they were returned to service, especially for rebuilds done post-WWII. I've seen M1911 frames that were still in service as late as 2012 w/ 5th SFG in Afghanistan that had a mishmash of pre- and post-WWII GI parts mixed w/ 1980s-1990s commercial slides. The ordinance workers/soldiers doing the rebuilds didn't care about whether a part was period correct; all that mattered was whether the pistol still worked.

Posted by: Ed L at May 28, 2023 08:18 PM (yRXSd)

217 "I dealt with that in our last house, and I ended up using the small pots of dessicants that absorb water like a mofo."
Posted by: Every child has a normal childhood, we're watching it be used as an attack at May 28, 2023 08:17 PM (5/7b/)
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I thought "white granules in a little tub" was pretty much the same thing.

Posted by: Weasel at May 28, 2023 08:19 PM (RG6z4)

218 @55 We had a family friend, Marine, ex-motorcycle cop, who was a serious collector. He didn't just have safes; he had a safe ROOM. When he found out he had something that would get him eventually, he had a friend with a shop do an invitation-only sale to "good home" acquaintances. I'd have kinda-sorta liked to buy everything he owned, but that would have been a lifetime investment. The upshot was that I spent a lot of money -- the most I spent on anything, that year -- and we obtained several of our very favorite pieces, as did a dozen or so other friends of his.

The happy part, was that the guy knew where all his collection was going. He left some to his closest relatives, and had a real sense of satisfaction knowing that everything else was in the hands of friends, who would remember him whenever they got them out. And we do, too.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at May 28, 2023 08:19 PM (jYCXf)

219 Remind me to bring mine to WA.
Posted by: Weasel at May 28, 2023 08:07 PM (2FWUN)

You're coming to WA???

Posted by: Diogenes at May 28, 2023 08:19 PM (YGqO/)

220 Hello - just popping in to say if PT is reading, I got your email and have resent my message from May 4 and also answered the email from tonight. I hope you get it.

If anyone else has written me and not heard back, please write to Weasel at his gun thread address. I have answered every email I have received, usually within a few hours. Some seem to go astray.

Posted by: bluebell at May 28, 2023 08:19 PM (DlxvH)

221 So the P-07 is back as my EDC until I get new CR1632 batteries and maybe afterwards. It is a damn fine pistol, frankly.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, GotG vol 3 review at May 28, 2023 07:59 PM (xcxpd)

I was looking for a 1911 when the salesguy talked me into buying mine...never regretted it. Still got a 1911, later.

Posted by: BignJames at May 28, 2023 08:20 PM (AwYPR)

222 WA = Weasel Acres, in this context, I think.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 28, 2023 08:20 PM (OTzUX)

223 Another bit on that 1911 cleaning video...
I think, given the work involved, I would in the end engrave the frame and slide. There's a lot of work going into that restoration, and it seems like a nice bit of engraving would cover over some of the pitting and give it back its pride.

Oh, and anytime it was carried or taken to the range, I would require a picture of it in its wounded state be carried along with it.

Posted by: GWB at May 28, 2023 08:21 PM (t+Wem)

224 Back in the day they used to have people watch tests from the roof, I think.

You know those photos of GIs standing in rows wearing sunglasses? My dad was one of those. He blamed it for a lot of medical problems later in life but the VA never agreed.

Posted by: Oddbob at May 28, 2023 08:21 PM (nfrXX)

225 HOLY CARP. or Cod, whatever fish of your choice.

BIL kept a fine bar at home for many years. On the way out the door he told me to go pick up a few bottles. I just looked one up, and I need some advice, boys.

It's an unopened bottle of Parkers heritage collection 10YO bourbon, finished in cognac barrels. The internets suggest it can be had for around $1500 a bottle.

Now, I do like bourbon, but I know alcohol and firearms don't mix - how do I go about selling this?

Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

Posted by: radar at May 28, 2023 08:21 PM (YhPao)

226 Posted by: rhomboid at May 28, 2023 08:17 PM (OTzUX)
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I have a picture of WW standing next to an atomic bomb practice casing at the museum in Los Alamos. A good friend of ours parents both worked at Oak Ridge back in the day.

Posted by: Weasel at May 28, 2023 08:21 PM (2FWUN)

227 But the boss wants to get to the range and practice with the Model 60 (and M1 carbine), so that will also happen.

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Authentic or reproduction? Because I've reluctantly decided to put mine in the safe after everyone that sees it subtly telling me I'm an idiot for shooting it every time I take it out. Except it's maybe the most fun gun I own, and I love to shoot it. And I will shoot it, just not so often. But there's nothing quite like being at a range and letting a young person that has shown himself to be responsible in the lane nearby put a magazine through it, knowing he might not ever get the chance again.

So I'm in the market for a reproduction and wondered if you had any recommendations.

Posted by: Every child has a normal childhood, we're watching it be used as an attack at May 28, 2023 08:21 PM (5/7b/)

228 Sorry, I meant to bold M1 Carbine in that last post.

Posted by: Every child has a normal childhood, we're watching it be used as an attack at May 28, 2023 08:22 PM (5/7b/)

229 WA = Weasel Acres, in this context, I think.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 28, 2023 08:20 PM (OTzUX)

Oh.
Darn.

*kicks dirt*

Posted by: Diogenes at May 28, 2023 08:23 PM (YGqO/)

230 I was looking for a 1911 when the salesguy talked me into buying mine...never regretted it. Still got a 1911, later.
Posted by: BignJames at May 28, 2023 08:20 PM (AwYPR)

I came to 1911's late, I have two currently. But they're range toys for me.

Salesman did not steer you wrong

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, GotG vol 3 review at May 28, 2023 08:23 PM (xcxpd)

231 Posted by: Skip at May 28, 2023 08:11 PM (xhxe

Parts interchangability was a VERY big deal to US Army Ordinance in the 20th century. One of the reasons why it took so long for Remington Rand and Ithaca to come on line w/ M1911A1 production in WWII was because the first pistols from these new suppliers kept flunking the interchangability tests the Army mandated (a Colt pistol's parts having 100% interchangability w/ a pistol from Remington Rand and Ithaca)

Posted by: Ed L at May 28, 2023 08:24 PM (yRXSd)

232 Authentic or reproduction? Because I've reluctantly decided to put mine in the safe after everyone that sees it subtly telling me I'm an idiot for shooting it every time I take it out. Except it's maybe the most fun gun I own, and I love to shoot it. And I will shoot it, just not so often. But there's nothing quite like being at a range and letting a young person that has shown himself to be responsible in the lane nearby put a magazine through it, knowing he might not ever get the chance again.

So I'm in the market for a reproduction and wondered if you had any recommendations.
Posted by: Every child has a normal childhood, we're watching it be used as an attack at May 28, 2023 08:21 PM (5/7b/)

Life is for living, guns are made to be used. Shoot it if you love it. If parts break, parts can be repaired. Nothing is more sad than an unfired gun, except perhaps an unread book.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, GotG vol 3 review at May 28, 2023 08:24 PM (xcxpd)

233 Back in my day it was C-Rats, or Lurps if you were very lucky and/or connected.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 28, 2023 08:14 PM (a3Q+t)

I've subsisted on K-Rats. Oh yeah, yummy, those were.

Posted by: GWB at May 28, 2023 08:24 PM (t+Wem)

234 it will literally weep moisture
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😪 😢

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at May 28, 2023 08:25 PM (Vwz3I)

235 I shoot my M1 Carbine all the time.

Posted by: Weasel at May 28, 2023 08:25 PM (RG6z4)

236 Now, I do like bourbon, but I know alcohol and firearms don't mix - how do I go about selling this?

How badly do you need the money? Personally, I think I’d invite my two or three best friends and toast my BIL.

Posted by: Oddbob at May 28, 2023 08:26 PM (nfrXX)

237 Nothing is more sad than an unfired gun, except perhaps an unread book.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, GotG vol 3 review at May 28, 2023 08:24 PM

We're right here, you know...

Posted by: Misfit toys at May 28, 2023 08:26 PM (Wnv9h)

238 Nothing is more sad than an unfired gun, except perhaps an unread book.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, GotG vol 3 review at May 28, 2023 08:24 PM

We're right here, you know...
Posted by: Misfit toys at May 28, 2023 08:26 PM (Wnv9h)

No kidding.

Posted by: '68 GTO sitting in a garage year after year at May 28, 2023 08:28 PM (YGqO/)

239 Life is for living, guns are made to be used. Shoot it if you love it. If parts break, parts can be repaired. Nothing is more sad than an unfired gun, except perhaps an unread book.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards

This guy gets it.
Had a motorcycle that I put over 130,000 miles on and had a guy a work admonish me that I was lowering its resale value.
The bike was made to be ridden and that carbine was made to be shot.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 28, 2023 08:29 PM (m/Csr)

240 Well, I must wander.

Y'all endeavor to give Bob @ NSA nightmares, alrighty?

Thanks again, Weasel!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(2YtOq) at May 28, 2023 08:29 PM (2YtOq)

241 Scoobs, I was trying to remember which way the toilet flushes in this hemisphere.

Posted by: RI Red at May 28, 2023 08:29 PM (tLjUh)

242 Oddbob, every cent goes to his wife (my sister). She's gonna need it... Otherwise that'd be a fine suggestion.

Posted by: radar at May 28, 2023 08:29 PM (YhPao)

243 I also endorse Damp-Rid, for use inside enclosed areas. If water is able to find its way into your basement, you should deal with that "for other reasons," of course, but there are mini-Damp-Rid packets (with a plastic bag to hold the drippings) that you can hang inside the safe. You'll have to change them, but they do really work. The more moisture-tight you can make the safe, the drier it will stay in there, so close up any vents and consider foam tape for where the door closes.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at May 28, 2023 08:30 PM (jYCXf)

244 How does the Taurus model match up w/the Baretta?...same same?

Posted by: BignJames at May 28, 2023 08:30 PM (AwYPR)

245 Life is for living, guns are made to be used. Shoot it if you love it. If parts break, parts can be repaired. Nothing is more sad than an unfired gun, except perhaps an unread book.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, GotG vol 3 review

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Oh, I'll continue to shoot it. I don't have any safe queens. I just won't be taking it to the range every time I go and passing it around like a cheap whore the way I do now, which makes sense all things considered.

Posted by: Every child has a normal childhood, we're watching it be used as an attack at May 28, 2023 08:31 PM (5/7b/)

246 "Every child", similar situation here. I have a Quality Hardware 1943 mixmaster (with, oddly I think, the push-button safety, still). Also have a reproduction - an Auto Ordnance (patterned on the 1942 Inland from the NRA Museum, I think I recall reading). So it has the push-button safety, flip sights, and Type 1 barrel band (no bayonet lug).

I shoot the Quality Hardware in action rifle matches (and to your point, last week, in the last stage - short range - I pushed one of the younger guys who was admiring it to use it instead of whatever black plastic thingamabob he was using in the match .... he did, and loved it).

Otherwise I shoot the repro. Boss loves it, and shoots it well (of course, it's a very easy and natural little rifle to shoot accurately).

AO had some quality issues in the early days, or so I read, but mine's been perfect. In theory the parts are not USGI, but I haven't replaced anything yet, so no issue for me as yet. Beautiful walnut stock I've put BLO on every other year, now it's got a rich deep color.

(cont'd)

Posted by: rhomboid at May 28, 2023 08:31 PM (OTzUX)

247 Now, I do like bourbon, but I know alcohol and firearms don't mix - how do I go about selling this?

How badly do you need the money? Personally, I think I’d invite my two or three best friends and toast my BIL.
Posted by: Oddbob at May 28, 2023 08:26 PM (nfrXX)
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This.
If money is a thing, you can probably find a buyer.
But if not so much, what an excellent salute to the BIL.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 28, 2023 08:31 PM (YGqO/)

248 Oddbob, every cent goes to his wife (my sister). She's gonna need it... Otherwise that'd be a fine suggestion.

In that case, I think I would ask at the nearest specialty liquor store. There may be all sorts of legal (read: tax) hassles with reselling alcohol.

Posted by: Oddbob at May 28, 2023 08:32 PM (nfrXX)

249 Posted by: '68 GTO sitting in a garage year after year at May 28, 2023 08:28 PM (YGqO/)

When I used to watch American Pickers it aggravated me to no end when the owner of cars rotting in a field wouldn't sell them.

Posted by: polynikes at May 28, 2023 08:32 PM (BqNkw)

250 That was close. For a second there I thought bluebell resented one of us!

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at May 28, 2023 08:32 PM (Vwz3I)

251 When I used to watch American Pickers it aggravated me to no end when the owner of cars rotting in a field wouldn't sell them.

Posted by: polynikes

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What aggravated me was the fat guy and skinny guy haggling some old guy down to $100 and then saying the equivalent of "That was a great deal, I figure we can get $7000 from the hipsters for this" before the commercial break.

Posted by: Every child has a normal childhood, we're watching it be used as an attack at May 28, 2023 08:34 PM (5/7b/)

252 That was close. For a second there I thought bluebell resented one of us!
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at May 28, 2023 08:32 PM (Vwz3I)
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Never! Not me, you know I love everyone!

Posted by: bluebell at May 28, 2023 08:34 PM (DlxvH)

253 (cont'd)

So, AFAIK, Auto Ordnance (now Kahr) is an option. Someone bought the Inland name and makes new M1s - supposed to be high-quality. Haven't paid attention in a while, there may be other new players as well. Repros are $$, but of course far less than real ones, which have really become exorbitant.

I have long allowed/encouraged people at the range who take an interest in either M1 (Garand or carbine) to shoot 'em. 100% smile results to date. I also proselytize a bit, push people to check out CMP if they're serious (for the Garand), and not to wait.

By far, the rifles that attract the most interest at the range.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 28, 2023 08:34 PM (OTzUX)

254 244 How does the Taurus model match up w/the Baretta?...same same?
Posted by: BignJames at May 28, 2023 08:30 PM (AwYPR)

The Taurus has a frame mounted safety and no decocker. Later model Taurus PT 92 had poorly mounted dovetail safeties (older models had fixed, non adjustable sights but the fuckers would not break on a bet).

Otherwise, they're pretty much the same mechanically and as accurate/reliable.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, GotG vol 3 review at May 28, 2023 08:36 PM (xcxpd)

255
By far, the rifles that attract the most interest at the range.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 28, 2023 08:34 PM (OTzUX)
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Best looking, too!

Posted by: Weasel at May 28, 2023 08:36 PM (RG6z4)

256 Thanks for the suggestions.

Posted by: Goatweed at May 28, 2023 08:37 PM (0Q/6W)

257 Posted by: Every child has a normal childhood, we're watching it be used as an attack at May 28, 2023 08:31 PM (5/7b/)

Please make sure that you don't shoot hot ammo (i.e. +P or +P+ rounds) in older firearms. The steel of yesteryear (i.e. pre-1950s) wasn't as strong as today's. Hot ammo in older firearms will increase wear on their operating parts and the frame.

Posted by: Ed L at May 28, 2023 08:37 PM (yRXSd)

258 225 HOLY CARP. or Cod, whatever fish of your choice.

BIL kept a fine bar at home for many years. On the way out the door he told me to go pick up a few bottles. I just looked one up, and I need some advice, boys.

It's an unopened bottle of Parkers heritage collection 10YO bourbon, finished in cognac barrels. The internets suggest it can be had for around $1500 a bottle.

Now, I do like bourbon, but I know alcohol and firearms don't mix - how do I go about selling this?

Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?
Posted by: radar at May 28, 2023 08:21 PM (YhPao)

I will email you my address and you can send it to me. There will be no money, but on your deathbed, you will receive total consciousness -- so you'll have that going for you.

In your URL field, if you put mailto:, it'll work much better, in my experience.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at May 28, 2023 08:39 PM (v23vE)

259 @231 Parts interchangeability was a VERY big deal to US Army Ordinance

A historian named Pat Malone won the Norton prize in industrial history for a paper that used an electron microscope to analyze the file marks on Model 1809 muskets at the Springfield (Mass) Armory. Assembly line systems were first known as "Armory Practice." The army was not interested in saving money, but in field-expedient parts exchange on the battlefield.

As it worked out (in the first couple of generations), more hand work was performed on matching-parts firearms than had previously gone into one-off artisan guns. All the Henry Ford business came later.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at May 28, 2023 08:39 PM (jYCXf)

260 I have long allowed/encouraged people at the range who take an interest in either M1 (Garand or carbine) to shoot 'em. 100% smile results to date.

Similar experience. Never a disappointed customer.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 28, 2023 08:39 PM (Xrfse)

261 Posted by: Ed L at May 28, 2023 08:18 PM (yRXSd)

Thanks, Ed L, that's kind of what I figured. I was surprised that it had been through the arsenal rebuild process at least once already before it got so trashed. I wonder how many years it took to get in such sad shape. Would really love to know the backstory.

Posted by: That Deplorable SOB Van Owen at May 28, 2023 08:39 PM (PWe8a)

262 dagnabit, Pixy -- if you put mailto : your-email-address@your-email-domain

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at May 28, 2023 08:40 PM (v23vE)

263 Probably the only other 9mm I would get (besides what I already own) is a Beretta M9 (or equivalent if I couldn't get surplus). I carried it a couple of places in the world and enjoyed shooting it for the most part.

But, it's not high on my priority list. At least not since Ed L got me jonesing for that Colt revolver. Have to save my pennies.

Posted by: GWB at May 28, 2023 08:40 PM (t+Wem)

264 Otherwise, they're pretty much the same mechanically and as accurate/reliable.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, GotG vol 3 review at May 28, 2023 08:36 PM (xcxpd)

Tried a Taurus in .40 S&W....thought it pretty sturdy.

Posted by: BignJames at May 28, 2023 08:40 PM (AwYPR)

265 "Best looking, too!" - Weasel

Without a doubt! Both the classic, iconic lines, and often the beauty of the industrial art (stock, metal work).

And there's the other aesthetic pleasures - the boom, and the ping ......

Posted by: rhomboid at May 28, 2023 08:40 PM (OTzUX)

266 bluebell, Thank you for all your hard work making the NoVaMoMe such a great event

Posted by: Ben Had at May 28, 2023 08:41 PM (u23W4)

267 When I used to watch American Pickers it aggravated me to no end when the owner of cars rotting in a field wouldn't sell them.

Posted by: polynikes
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When I was a.kid.growing up.at the local.airport, a fellow there(Canadian by birth) found a Hawker Hurricane stuffed in the back of an old hanger in Saskatchewan, I think it was. Took him a year to talk the old guy who owned it into selling it.
Damn what a find!

Posted by: Diogenes at May 28, 2023 08:41 PM (YGqO/)

268 Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at May 28, 2023 08:30 PM (jYCXf)

I use the moisture capture containers you can get from the dollar store.

Posted by: polynikes at May 28, 2023 08:41 PM (BqNkw)

269 Way, Way Downriver - fascinating, thanks for that.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 28, 2023 08:42 PM (OTzUX)

270 Thank YOU, Ben Had. You know why. ❤️

Posted by: bluebell at May 28, 2023 08:43 PM (ENJDE)

271 #59 cigars are pretty good for about $1.50 or so each.
I like Macanudo regularly but I smoke #59s as well.
Not the sweets, ugh, the regulars are okay, the claros are passable.
Best Cigar Prices (.com) is a decent place.
They often have freebies with their good cigars.
Sometimes they offer 5 or 10 extra cigars and I have a plethora of ashtrays, lighters, a nice humidor and a travel humidor.
I'm waiting on my Punch ashtray, it looks like the Punch guy, and an engine block looking lighter.
Reposted from the wrong thread.

Posted by: Veeshir at May 28, 2023 08:44 PM (mpmL+)

272 Posted by: Diogenes at May 28, 2023 08:41 PM (YGqO/)

Yeah it's not a one off. There are some people that don't want to sell things they've collected even if they've forgotten they even have it. I think that having someone else want it makes them want to keep it more.

Posted by: polynikes at May 28, 2023 08:44 PM (BqNkw)

273 Posted by: polynikes at May 28, 2023 08:44 PM (BqNkw)

"validation"

Posted by: BignJames at May 28, 2023 08:46 PM (AwYPR)

274 Posted by: Every child has a normal childhood, we're watching it be used as an attack at May 28, 2023 08:31 PM (5/7b/)

You might want to replace any WWII vintage magazines w/ modern ones. The WWII magazines are themselves becoming collector's items. Modern magazines also don't have 80 years of age, wear, and tear on them either.

Posted by: Ed L at May 28, 2023 08:46 PM (yRXSd)

275 Thanks rhomboid, I'll take a look. And thanks Ed L., yeah, I've been very careful with what I put through it. A local shop with a WWII weapons enthusiast running things stocks and recommended Prvi Partisan (sp?) and so far they've been fantastic. I've been hanging onto the brass because $25+/box convinced me that reloading is a good decision.

Posted by: Every child has a normal childhood, we're watching it be used as an attack at May 28, 2023 08:46 PM (5/7b/)

276 No work of course tomorrow but better not get off schedule too much
Have a great evening everyone

Posted by: Skip at May 28, 2023 08:46 PM (xhxe8)

277 dagnabit, Pixy -- if you put mailto : your-email-address@your-email-domain

No spaces before or after the colon.

Posted by: Oddbob at May 28, 2023 08:46 PM (nfrXX)

278 Have a question. Are we boycotting HK because they put out some woke ad? I'm still thinking about trying out a HK VP9.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 28, 2023 08:47 PM (t/2Uw)

279 Never! Not me, you know I love everyone!
Posted by: bluebell at May 28, 2023 08:34 PM

For some of us, that needs to have ", at least most of the time."

We know who we are. ;-)

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 28, 2023 08:49 PM (a3Q+t)

280 27 Buddy at work found a holstered 1911 in the shallows of a lake while fishing....guess someone's canoe wasn't in the middle of the lake.
Posted by: BignJames at May 28, 2023 07:12 PM
I'm sure somebody above already said, but I just got in from church and I will say it. That firearm needs to to be reported to authorities. Why? May have been involved in a crime. Will you ever see it again? Maybe, maybe not.

Posted by: Eromero at May 28, 2023 08:50 PM (Uv0D2)

281 Thanks for the tip, Schnorflepuppy...

I suppose I'll leave my carbine to someone when I pass, but I've told everyone that offered to buy my Garand they just need to show up at my funeral - with a shovel.
Both are fun to shoot, and I'll continue to do so, idiotic or not.

Posted by: radar at May 28, 2023 08:51 PM (YhPao)

282 Ed L, actually I have only modern M1 carbine mags, but will never again pass up any new/old stock surplus ones, like those in wax paper I saw in a gun store in Reno a few years ago, when I'm out of state and buying. Not that I would do that, since it's against the rules or something. Nope, never even considered it.

What are we even talking about?

And while both rifles have a fairly narrow prescribed range of charges for the ammo, in order to operate them, I do load at the lowest level that provides acceptable results (but I do that for all my reloading).

With the Garand one could, I suppose, go to softer loads using an adjustable gas plug (gas cylinder lock), but most wear-able parts for that rifle are readily available, including new production versions.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 28, 2023 08:51 PM (OTzUX)

283 You might want to replace any WWII vintage magazines w/ modern ones.

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It's funny you would mention that. The purchase didn't include any magazines (got it from Midway), and a few months later an opportunity to buy an unissued in-the-paper IBM magazine came up. I bit, of course. Hopefully whats in the paper is what is supposed to be there. If not no big deal because it will be interesting, too.

Posted by: Every child has a normal childhood, we're watching it be used as an attack at May 28, 2023 08:51 PM (5/7b/)

284 Not you, Duncanthrax!

Posted by: bluebell at May 28, 2023 08:51 PM (ENJDE)

285 Have a question. Are we boycotting HK because they put out some woke ad? I'm still thinking about trying out a HK VP9.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 28, 2023 08:47 PM (t/2Uw)

My understanding is they made a real apology and corrected the problem.

Posted by: polynikes at May 28, 2023 08:52 PM (BqNkw)

286 "Nothing special, mostly older milsurp bolt actions. "

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Don't know if you've looked at prices lately, but those are VERY special now.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at May 28, 2023 08:52 PM (5YmYl)

287 Are we boycotting HK because they put out some woke ad? I'm still thinking about trying out a HK VP9.

I’m not for the same reason I’m not boycotting AB. I wasn’t a customer in the first place. In the HK case, not because I wouldn’t like to be. They did respond quickly and correctly even if it wasn’t as strongly as some people seem to want to give them credit for. For example, some are saying that the social media chick was fired. HK never actually said that.

Posted by: Oddbob at May 28, 2023 08:52 PM (nfrXX)

288 Have a question. Are we boycotting HK because they put out some woke ad? I'm still thinking about trying out a HK VP9.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 28, 2023 08:47 PM

Excellent trigger, and those little wings on the slide are something I thought we'd see on other models by now. Only downside IMO is mags are expensive.

They seem to have actually walked back their toe dip into wokeness.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 28, 2023 08:53 PM (a3Q+t)

289 >I'm still thinking about trying out a HK VP9.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice)

Look at their USP Compact too
https://tinyurl.com/4c79r8a7

Posted by: DB - at May 28, 2023 08:53 PM (geLO8)

290 SSG Christopher N. Piper. 6/16/2005 RIP

Remember the fallen. Always.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 28, 2023 08:53 PM (J47y1)

291 278 Have a question. Are we boycotting HK because they put out some woke ad? I'm still thinking about trying out a HK VP9.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 28, 2023 08:47 PM (t/2Uw)

The VP9 is a fine pistol, just don't submerge it in water. Hydrolock.

Boycotting is a very personal thing, so I won't advise one way or another but I'll note that H&K doesn't care much about the US civilian market. But just about every major gun company has treated us badly, from S&W to Ruger to Colt, at one time or another.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, GotG vol 3 review at May 28, 2023 08:54 PM (xcxpd)

292 As it worked out (in the first couple of generations), more hand work was performed on matching-parts firearms than had previously gone into one-off artisan guns. All the Henry Ford business came later.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver

I'd imagine they had a bunch of go and no-go gauges to work with. All lost to time.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 28, 2023 08:54 PM (ga8qR)

293 Have a question. Are we boycotting HK because they put out some woke ad? I'm still thinking about trying out a HK VP9.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice)

They fired the women who posted the garbage and are making fun of themselves for it.
They posted that they make firearms and are not interested in anything else.
I think they did well.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 28, 2023 08:54 PM (m/Csr)

294 HK recovered quickly and properly from their social media debacle, with humor. One can find it on the interwebs. Think they fired the kid responsible for whatever the idiocy was, too.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 28, 2023 08:54 PM (OTzUX)

295 Oh, and AFAIK, there was no ad. Just a social media director mouthing off her personal opinions on the company twitter account.

Posted by: Oddbob at May 28, 2023 08:54 PM (nfrXX)

296 286 "Nothing special, mostly older milsurp bolt actions. "

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Don't know if you've looked at prices lately, but those are VERY special now.
Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at May 28, 2023 08:52 PM (5YmYl)

I blame C&Rsenal

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, GotG vol 3 review at May 28, 2023 08:55 PM (xcxpd)

297 My range has one for rent. Haven't actually handled it yet but it has finger slots(don't know if that is the proper term) on the grip. I shot a Walther PPQ once that had a grip like that and liked it.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 28, 2023 08:55 PM (t/2Uw)

298 Problem with HK is I can't find a way to fit their magazines into my budget.

Just kidding.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 28, 2023 08:57 PM (OTzUX)

299 Look at their USP Compact too
https://tinyurl.com/4c79r8a7

Posted by: DB

That one's a bit pricier.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 28, 2023 08:58 PM (t/2Uw)

300 I have a VP9 that's been in both salt and fresh water. Works just fine and it's an excellent, reliable pistol. Very easy to shoot and the adjustable grip makes it comfortable in your hands. I've had some work done to mine, but I don't have a pistol that hasn't been worked. That's a personal choice and IMVHO not really necessary for most folks.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 28, 2023 08:58 PM (J47y1)

301 Just purchased a Quorum EMS Toro at TW. Saving my last Oliva for my b'day smoke tomorrow. Can confirm Quorums are good value smokes that never disappoint.

Posted by: Joe Kidd at May 28, 2023 08:59 PM (bUGMk)

302 Posted by: That Deplorable SOB Van Owen at May 28, 2023 08:39 PM (PWe8a)

Keep in mind that the early M1911's were rated for a life of only 6,000 rounds. That's not much by today's standards 100 years on, but that was a long time back then. Pistols were used more heavily back then; the pistol was the primary arm of the US Cavalry, which put in lots of time on the range, both mounted and dismounted. Wartime service would have only accelerated the process.
In 1980, just prior to the start of the M9 program, the US Army surveyed its M1911 holdings. The Army found that each pistol on hand had been rebuilt at least three times, some six or more. This was one reason why the M1911 got replaced by the M9; the pistols themselves were wearing out fast.

Posted by: Ed L at May 28, 2023 08:59 PM (yRXSd)

303 Just kidding.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 28, 2023 08:57 PM (OTzUX)

But not really.

Posted by: polynikes at May 28, 2023 09:00 PM (BqNkw)

304 Posted by: Joe Kidd at May 28, 2023 08:59 PM (bUGMk)
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Happy BDay!

Posted by: Weasel at May 28, 2023 09:00 PM (RG6z4)

305 Old bolt-action milsurps indeed are not being given away.

I have a bunch of Mosins (acquired for mere kopecks), but moved too slowly on 1903s or 1917s and ..... they zoomed up in price as I watched, not that many years ago. As I load 30-06 I'll probably still end up getting a 1903. Do see some beauties at the range, fairly often.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 28, 2023 09:00 PM (OTzUX)

306 >That one's a bit pricier.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice)

Worth it. H&K makes an excellent product. I just received the holster for mine, so it's going to be my carry piece.

Posted by: DB - at May 28, 2023 09:02 PM (geLO8)

307 I watched the restoration video from beginning to end. Amazing, thanks for posting!

Posted by: Jen the original at May 28, 2023 09:02 PM (J+OYj)

308 If I were the ordnance guy I would have chosen the Glock 21.

Okay let me have.

Posted by: polynikes at May 28, 2023 09:03 PM (BqNkw)

309 That firearm needs to to be reported to authorities. Why? May have been involved in a crime. Will you ever see it again? Maybe, maybe not.
Posted by: Eromero

Flip side of it - even if it, unless stolen authorities probably don't have the serial number.... hmmm. what to do?
"Bought it from some guy, insisted we do it in the police parking lot so he he had to be up and up..."

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 28, 2023 09:03 PM (ga8qR)

310 Posted by: rhomboid at May 28, 2023 09:00 PM (OTzUX)
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I've had my '03 Spfld on the 1000 yd range at Quantico and absolutely love that rifle. The more senior Marines appreciated seeing it, too.

Posted by: Weasel at May 28, 2023 09:04 PM (RG6z4)

311 I have a bunch of Mosins (acquired for mere kopecks), but moved too slowly on 1903s or 1917s and ..... they zoomed up in price as I watched, not that many years ago. As I load 30-06 I'll probably still end up getting a 1903. Do see some beauties at the range, fairly often.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 28, 2023 09:00 PM (OTzUX)

There's a sporterized Concarno somewhere here or at a nephews....I've never fired it.

Posted by: BignJames at May 28, 2023 09:04 PM (AwYPR)

312 300 I have a VP9 that's been in both salt and fresh water. Works just fine and it's an excellent, reliable pistol. Very easy to shoot and the adjustable grip makes it comfortable in your hands. I've had some work done to mine, but I don't have a pistol that hasn't been worked. That's a personal choice and IMVHO not really necessary for most folks.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 28, 2023 08:58 PM (J47y1)

You didn't have the hydrolock issue Tim at MAC had with your VP9? That's interesting.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, GotG vol 3 review at May 28, 2023 09:04 PM (xcxpd)

313 304 Thanks Weasel. Neighbors got their flags up. I think they know I'm making ribs tomorrow...

Posted by: Joe Kidd at May 28, 2023 09:04 PM (bUGMk)

314 If you turn that gun in, get a receipt.

Posted by: Every child has a normal childhood, we're watching it be used as an attack at May 28, 2023 09:05 PM (5/7b/)

315 sharon, you might check out the P30, as well. The adjustable grip is really nice. Plus hammer-fired, but the VP9 is just very slightly worse, trigger-wise.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 28, 2023 09:06 PM (a3Q+t)

316 Just saw that the VP 9 Tactical comes in a 10 round version and has the grip style I want. Of course it is $300 more. But it ain't money til you spend it, right?

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 28, 2023 09:07 PM (t/2Uw)

317 I do want to advocate for inexpensive firearms for a moment. You can get a DAMN good pistol today for ~$400, not counting used guns.

Canik TP9SF, Taurus G3 or G2c, the Rock Island 1911's, Girsan, Palmetto State Armory and others out there I haven't used...it's a golden age for good, inexpensive pistols. I don't feel there's a strong reason to spend $800+ unless you have money to burn.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, GotG vol 3 review at May 28, 2023 09:07 PM (xcxpd)

318 Posted by: Jen the original at May 28, 2023 09:02 PM (J+OYj)
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My pleasure! If you like that sort of thing, check out the "my mechanics" channel on YouTube.

Posted by: Weasel at May 28, 2023 09:08 PM (RG6z4)

319 Posted by: Every child has a normal childhood, we're watching it be used as an attack at May 28, 2023 08:51 PM (5/7b/)

As a kid, I remember M1 Carbines as a cheap, readily available surplus firearm. Today, even the rebuilt or modernized M1 carbines are going for $2-3k. Original condition M1 carbines are $4-5k. M1A1 Paratrooper Carbines w/ folding stocks in original condition are almost double that ($8-9K).

Posted by: Ed L at May 28, 2023 09:08 PM (yRXSd)

320 Posted by: Joe Kidd at May 28, 2023 09:04 PM (bUGMk)
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Happy to do it!

Posted by: Weasel at May 28, 2023 09:09 PM (RG6z4)

321 "You didn't have the hydrolock issue Tim at MAC had with your VP9? That's interesting.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, GotG vol 3 review at May 28, 2023 09:04 PM (xcxpd)"

Never had an issue. The SF variant is also extensively used by many German State Police units and also select mil units including the Kampfschwimmer. So theres that. Very little variation in those units. Mostly triggers.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 28, 2023 09:09 PM (J47y1)

322 No spaces before or after the colon.
Posted by: Oddbob at May 28, 2023 08:46 PM (nfrXX)

*ponders making a dirty joke*
*nah, not this weekend*

Posted by: GWB at May 28, 2023 09:09 PM (t+Wem)

323 Duncanthrax, it is so small though, wouldn't it tend to be snappy?

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 28, 2023 09:10 PM (t/2Uw)

324 If I were the ordnance guy I would have chosen the Glock 21.

Okay let me have.

Wasn’t it pretty much a given that the new issue pistol had to be 9mm for NATO compatibility reasons? Also the G21 is pretty large for anyone with slightly-smaller-than-large hands. Like me, fer instance.

Posted by: Oddbob at May 28, 2023 09:10 PM (nfrXX)

325 Posted by: Ed L at May 28, 2023 09:08 PM (yRXSd)
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$2-3k for an M1 Carbine? I think I paid $800 for mine. Holy crap. I need to update my inventory values.

Posted by: Weasel at May 28, 2023 09:11 PM (RG6z4)

326 Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 28, 2023 09:03 PM (ga8qR)

Do make sure that the serial number is legible. You don't want to have a firearm with an illegible or removed firearm on your hands.

Posted by: Ed L at May 28, 2023 09:12 PM (yRXSd)

327 321 "You didn't have the hydrolock issue Tim at MAC had with your VP9? That's interesting.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, GotG vol 3 review at May 28, 2023 09:04 PM (xcxpd)"

Never had an issue. The SF variant is also extensively used by many German State Police units and also select mil units including the Kampfschwimmer. So theres that. Very little variation in those units. Mostly triggers.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 28, 2023 09:09 PM (J47y1)

Good to hear, morons take note.

The trigger group was the failure point for Military Arms Channel's VP9. I didn't know there was variation there.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, GotG vol 3 review at May 28, 2023 09:12 PM (xcxpd)

328 I have noticed that now that they are making pistols in all kinds of fancy colors that the prices have gone up.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 28, 2023 09:14 PM (t/2Uw)

329 Posted by: Oddbob at May 28, 2023 09:10 PM (nfrXX)

Correct on both counts but I think the compatibility with 9mm pistols is a very very minor positive reason to change from .45 . At the time they didn't have the SF model but if it was a requirement they could have resolved that issue. The Beretta ain't much smaller.

Posted by: polynikes at May 28, 2023 09:14 PM (BqNkw)

330 Late to thread.

Posted by: Every child has a normal childhood,

Go ahead and shoot the M1 Carbine. I would however get an ammo check gauge for it. The only really destructive thing you can do to an M1 Carbine is to have an out of battery cartridge ignition. There is a reason that you need to be in the habit of bumping the operating slide handle after loading a new magazine.

Posted by: whig at May 28, 2023 09:14 PM (3aLWR)

331 I do want to advocate for inexpensive firearms for a moment. You can get a DAMN good pistol today for ~$400, not counting used guns.

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I picked up a $300 "Service Issue" or similar Tisas 1911 that was posted here a few months ago. It's a reproduction of the A1 and a great gun, and incredible that you can buy one for that price still.

Highly recommended. Review here.

https://tinyurl.com/2e3zfhbv

Posted by: Every child has a normal childhood, we're watching it be used as an attack at May 28, 2023 09:15 PM (5/7b/)

332 OK everyone, 9:18 thank you time.

Thank You!

I really do appreciate you all being here each week!

Posted by: Weasel at May 28, 2023 09:18 PM (2FWUN)

333 Duncanthrax, it is so small though, wouldn't it tend to be snappy?
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 28, 2023 09:10 PM

It's not that small, and steel framed, so quite manageable, IMO. I liked the grip a lot, but one day thought what the heck, and started playing with the grip components. You get S, M, and L components for the front strap, back strap, and sides, that you can mix and match. The combo I thought would be the worst (L sides, S straps) was like, "Wow!". They don't look all that different, but you WILL feel the differences.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 28, 2023 09:18 PM (a3Q+t)

334 Thank you, Weasel.

If you ever do get to WA State, I do hope to host you.

good night morons.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, GotG vol 3 review at May 28, 2023 09:19 PM (xcxpd)

335 Posted by: Weasel at May 28, 2023 09:11 PM (RG6z4)

That's what I saw people paying at Chantilly a couple of shows ago. I wouldn't have paid that much, but that's what I'd call the "gotta have it now" price. The paratrooper models command a big premium right now. Those prices are for WWII era models only. The remakes from the 1960s and 1970s go for a lot less.

Posted by: Ed L at May 28, 2023 09:19 PM (yRXSd)

336 322 No spaces before or after the colon.
Posted by: Oddbob at May 28, 2023 08:46 PM (nfrXX)

*ponders making a dirty joke*
*nah, not this weekend*
Posted by: GWB at May 28, 2023 09:09 PM (t+Wem)

Yeah, I didn't go there, either, GWB. Too easy.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at May 28, 2023 09:19 PM (v23vE)

337 Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, GotG vol 3 review at May 28, 2023 09:19 PM (xcxpd)
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Thank you!!

Posted by: Weasel at May 28, 2023 09:19 PM (RG6z4)

338 OK everyone, 9:18 thank you time.

But… But… It’s not even dark yet. Where does the time go? Thanks, Weasel and good night to all authorized personnel.

Posted by: Oddbob at May 28, 2023 09:20 PM (nfrXX)

339 Thanks for hosting, Weasel!

Posted by: Ed L at May 28, 2023 09:21 PM (yRXSd)

340 Thanks for the Gun Thread Weasel. I'll send you a 1911 Rat-Rod story.

Posted by: DBCooper at May 28, 2023 09:21 PM (wBAbO)

341 Posted by: Ed L at May 28, 2023 09:19 PM (yRXSd)
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Thanks, mine is an original from the end of the war. Amazing.

Posted by: Weasel at May 28, 2023 09:22 PM (2FWUN)

342 OK everyone, 9:18 thank you time.

Thank You!

I really do appreciate you all being here each week!
Posted by: Weasel at May 28, 2023 09:18 PM (2FWUN)
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We appreciate you as well.
Have a good Memorial Day.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 28, 2023 09:22 PM (YGqO/)

343 What, it's over? I just got back from grilling!

Posted by: RI Red at May 28, 2023 09:22 PM (tLjUh)

344 Posted by: Oddbob at May 28, 2023 09:20 PM (nfrXX)
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Nite Ob!

Posted by: Weasel at May 28, 2023 09:22 PM (RG6z4)

345 t's not that small, and steel framed, so quite manageable, IMO. I liked the grip a lot, but one day thought what the heck, and started playing with the grip components. You get S, M, and L components for the front strap, back strap, and sides, that you can mix and match. The combo I thought would be the worst (L sides, S straps) was like, "Wow!". They don't look all that different, but you WILL feel the differences.

Posted by: Duncanthrax

So, October?

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 28, 2023 09:23 PM (t/2Uw)

346 Posted by: Ed L at May 28, 2023 09:21 PM (yRXSd)
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Nite and thanks again Ed L!

Posted by: Weasel at May 28, 2023 09:23 PM (2FWUN)

347 Dear horde,

I'm just a good old boy from flyover country wondering where I can find a replacement for my auto, er, semi-auto rifle for critters and such. The Biden Administration says it's okay to own a combat shotgun if I use it to harvest combat game.

In exchange for half of my take-home, Joe will allow me to carry on.

Happy hunting and much obliged.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at May 28, 2023 09:23 PM (KVGVf)

348 Posted by: DBCooper at May 28, 2023 09:21 PM (wBAbO)
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Look forward to seeing it, DBC!

Posted by: Weasel at May 28, 2023 09:24 PM (2FWUN)

349 Posted by: Diogenes at May 28, 2023 09:22 PM (YGqO/)
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Thanks. You too!

Posted by: Weasel at May 28, 2023 09:24 PM (2FWUN)

350 5 different brands of .45ACP, all 1911 types except G21. All suitable for the task at hand.

Posted by: Eromero at May 28, 2023 09:26 PM (Uv0D2)

351 If you turn that gun in, get a receipt.
Posted by: Every child. . . .

Word. My 1911 was seized as evidence after my late wife used it to get herself to a better place. I was not presented with a receipt for any materials removed from my home that day. Honestly, I was in no shape to remember to ask for one. Anyway, after the investigation was closed, I played hell getting my property back. Eventually, I (informally) asked a acquaintance judge to look into it.

Shortly thereafter, miracle of miracles, most of my items were returned. I had to get a real court order, however, to compel the PD to reimburse me for the items lost and/or destroyed that somehow disappeared. The judge determined what was missing from the evidence check in sheet that did not exist when I originally asked for it.

Posted by: Tonypete at May 28, 2023 09:26 PM (qoGsy)

352 $2-3k for an M1 Carbine? I think I paid $800 for mine. Holy crap. I need to update my inventory values.
Posted by: Weasel at May 28, 2023 09:11 PM (RG6z4)

I got my Inland through CMP when they had them (briefly) available some years ago. I don't recall exactly, but I think they were around $800. I purchased a repro M1 carbine (all GI parts except for the receiver) manufactured by IAI (Israeli Arms Industries) about 25 years ago for around $600. I don't think they make them anymore.

Posted by: That Deplorable SOB Van Owen at May 28, 2023 09:26 PM (PWe8a)

353 Been a while since I checked carbine prices. I assume "original condition" means USGI, not rifles that have never been re-arsenaled, or that have been "corrected" WRT parts? Even mixmasters (the great bulk of what's out there, at least last time I was in the game) have become quite expensive. Like Weasel, I got mine for $800 - years ago. I probably should get some spares for the parts that wear most quickly/most often, as I did for my big M1s when I got them.

But mine are all shooters, not too focused on re-sale value, so getting original parts not important. And there is modern production of most parts. The way things are going, I can shoot these all I like, and down the road sell them for Xtimes what I paid (in constant dollars). Better than renting for free!

Posted by: rhomboid at May 28, 2023 09:27 PM (OTzUX)

354 Alley Butcher, as I recall the course of the guy's research, Spfld being a historical site had one hell of an archive, tools and paper, and he was even able to do "business case" work on their handwritten pay records. His big thrust was that matching-part assembly, often cited as the war of big manufacture against your "working classes," was in fact a boon to skilled craftsmen -- and he had the paychecks to back it up. What surprised me was that so many Model of 1809's were still in racks, waiting to be looked at real closely.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at May 28, 2023 09:29 PM (jYCXf)

355 Good night all.
Thanks Weasel for giving us a place to gather and talk guns especially on weeks when we don;t get to actually shoot guns.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 28, 2023 09:29 PM (t/2Uw)

356 Posted by: That Deplorable SOB Van Owen at May 28, 2023 09:26 PM (PWe8a)
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Mine is an Inland, too.

Posted by: Weasel at May 28, 2023 09:30 PM (2FWUN)

357 Taro!!! Ar kits minus the lower are $219 this weekend at Durkin Tactical

Posted by: MAxIE at May 28, 2023 09:30 PM (twxj3)

358 radar, I perused upthread and read about your circumstances. I am so sorry that you are having to deal with that situation.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at May 28, 2023 09:31 PM (v23vE)

359 Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 28, 2023 09:29 PM (t/2Uw)
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Nite! Happy to do it.

Posted by: Weasel at May 28, 2023 09:31 PM (2FWUN)

360 Lots of those here must deal with SARCO. Some of their rare surplus items seem a little pricey, it's true, but they have a dizzying array of parts for the M1 rifle and carbine, and unlike some famous old parts houses, they actually keep them in stock. My kid has a very special carbine that is near and dear, and around the holidays I went through their listings one weekend when they offered a discount, and bought one (1) each of every tiny li'l wear item, assembling a carbine survival kit of 20-some pieces for under a hundred bucks. Kid didn't need (yet) a single thing in the bag, but it was appreciated anyway.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at May 28, 2023 09:36 PM (jYCXf)

361 Thanks as always, Weasel.

Posted by: Every child has a normal childhood, we're watching it be used as an attack at May 28, 2023 09:37 PM (5/7b/)

362
Posted by: Every child has a normal childhood, we're watching it be used as an attack at May 28, 2023 09:37 PM (5/7b/)
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My pleasure!

Posted by: Weasel at May 28, 2023 09:38 PM (2FWUN)

363 Time to sign off, mostly. Thank you, Weasel, for the Gun Thread each week. And thank you to all the commenters for great questions and answers and gun stuff in general.

May you and yours retain your freedom in the days to come and honor our departed with your lives.

Posted by: GWB at May 28, 2023 09:41 PM (t+Wem)

364 OK, now it's dark (longitude ~-95.25).

Posted by: Oddbob at May 28, 2023 09:41 PM (nfrXX)

365 Can't believe MoMe is fast approaching. Looking forward to seeing you, weasel, as well as all the other fine folks.

Posted by: RI Red at May 28, 2023 09:42 PM (tLjUh)

366 Posted by: GWB at May 28, 2023 09:41 PM (t+Wem)
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Nite GWB.

Posted by: Weasel at May 28, 2023 09:42 PM (2FWUN)

367 Posted by: RI Red at May 28, 2023 09:42 PM (tLjUh)
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Yes sir!!

Posted by: Weasel at May 28, 2023 09:44 PM (2FWUN)

368 So, October?
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 28, 2023 09:23 PM

Indeed.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 28, 2023 09:49 PM (a3Q+t)

369 Can't believe MoMe is fast approaching. Looking forward to seeing you, weasel, as well as all the other fine folks.
Posted by: RI Red at May 28, 2023 09:42 PM

#twoweeks

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 28, 2023 09:51 PM (Wnv9h)

370 1911 restoration was a real treat.

Posted by: Eromero at May 28, 2023 09:54 PM (Uv0D2)

371 Posted by: Eromero at May 28, 2023 09:54 PM (Uv0D2)
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Glad you liked it!!

Posted by: Weasel at May 28, 2023 09:55 PM (2FWUN)

372 Weasel, you're the best. Thank you.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 28, 2023 09:57 PM (Xrfse)

373 #twoweeks!

Getting in before the end of the thread!

Posted by: blaster at May 28, 2023 09:59 PM (+NarO)

374 Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 28, 2023 09:57 PM (Xrfse)
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Thanks Notorious BFD!

Posted by: Weasel at May 28, 2023 10:00 PM (2FWUN)

375 OK, y'all - the ONT is up!

Have a great week and hope to see you next Sunday!

'Nite!!

Posted by: Weasel at May 28, 2023 10:02 PM (2FWUN)

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