Founder of the Oath Keepers, Stuart Rhodes, Who Committed No Violence on January 6 and Did Not Even Enter the Capitol, Sentenced to 18 Years in Prison By Corrupt Evil Regime

Another fake "seditious conspiracy" conviction.

We must pass a law giving both defendants and prosecutors the right to change venues in politically-charged cases where the local... inhabitants and Regime Enforcers of the judiciary are strongly biased to one side or another. In fact, it's an absolute scandal that this law doesn't already exist.

Stewart Rhodes, the leader of the far-right Oath Keepers, was sentenced Thursday to 18 years in prison for his involvement in the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol -- the longest sentence handed down to date and the first for a charge of seditious conspiracy.

"You, sir, present an ongoing threat and a peril to this country, to the republic and to the very fabric of our democracy," said U.S. District Court Judge Amit Mehta, characterizing Rhodes as a uniquely powerful driver of the threat to democracy that day. "You are smart, you are compelling, and you are charismatic. Frankly, that is what makes you dangerous."

Let me translate: You are an articulate spokesman for a political cause that threatens The Regime, so you must be put in the gulag.

Is this America?

I'm loyal to America, but I'm sure the hell not loyal to whatever this sh1thole we're living in is called.


Rhodes, 58, is the first of 14 Jan. 6 defendants, including nine Oath Keepers, to face sentencing after being convicted of -- or pleading guilty to -- seditious conspiracy. Enrique Tarrio, who was the national chairman of the far-right Proud Boys on Jan. 6, was convicted of the charge earlier this month.

Prosecutors say Rhodes masterminded a weekslong effort to derail the transfer of power from Donald Trump to Joe Biden, marshaling dozens of allies across the country to descend on Washington on Jan. 6. Rhodes and his allies spent weeks pressing Trump to forcibly prevent Congress from certifying the election -- and girded for violence even if Trump refused. Rhodes also encouraged Oath Keepers to assemble an arsenal of weapons just outside of Washington that could be deployed to the city if necessary.

Antifa literally does this every other month.

But they're "just a myth," right?


Ultimately dozens of members of the Oath Keepers surged with the pro-Trump mob into the Capitol, while Rhodes rallied them from outside the building.

Dozens of people trespassing!

Can you imagine something like that? Politically-motivated people trespassing in political buildings?!

This is literally the go-to tactic of every leftwing group in America when a state legislature is attempting to pass a law they oppose.


It was a brazen attack that threatened the most important and vulnerable part of American democracy, prosecutors said, urging Mehta to issue a sentence of at least 25 years.

Mehta largely agreed with prosecutors' characterization of Rhodes' role as a leader of the Jan. 6 attack and agreed to classify his crimes as an act of terrorism against the government, a categorization that sharply increased his ultimate sentence.


"What we cannot have -- we absolutely cannot have -- is a group of citizens who because they didn't like the outcome [of the 2020 election] were then prepared to take up arms in order to foment a revolution," Mehta said. "That's what you did.

That's literally what antifa did after the 2016 election -- and then they violently attacked people leaving the Republican National Convention in 2020, decking Rand Paul in the face, for example.

No "seditious conspiracy" there. No "terrorism" there.

It used to be said that the State had the monopoly on the legitimate use of violence.

Now it's the State and their protected, promoted Street Militias in antifa and BLM.

And if anyone watches the State encouraging those violent paramilitaries and coddling them, and thinks, "Say, that's how you advance your cause in America now" and tries to emulate them, the State quickly reminds you that only some paramilitaries have the right to throw molotov cocktails at cop cars and burn down courthouses.

Oilfield Rando
@Oilfield_Rando

We can do National Divorce or we can have a capital city that plucks dissidents out from anywhere in the country and throws them in prison for 20 years for crimes manufactured by the intel community.

It's that simple.

Compare and Contrast:

Michigan man gets community service for shooting anti-abortion campaigner

A western Michigan man who pleaded no contest to shooting an 84-year-old woman campaigning against abortion rights at his home was sentenced to community service Tuesday.

Richard Harvey, 75, was ordered to complete 100 hours of community service. Judge Suzanne Hoseth Kreeger also gave him a suspended jail sentence of two months and a delayed sentence of one year on probation.

Harvey pleaded no contest last month to felonious assault, careless discharge of a firearm causing injury and reckless discharge of a firearm.

Kreeger also must pay $347.19 in restitution and cannot have any contact with the woman he shot, 84-year-old Joan Jacobson.

Jacobson was shot Sept. 20 at Harvey's home in Odessa Township, a community about 130 miles (210 kilometers) northwest of Detroit. Jacobson told investigators that she was asking a woman at the home to vote against a proposed constitutional amendment that would guarantee the right to abortion in the state when she was told to leave. The amendment later passed.

Harvey has said the shooting was accidental, but Jacobson has maintained she believes it was intentional after she had argued with Harvey's wife, Sharon Harvey.

18 years for rallying people to halt the certification of an election you sincerely believe was fraudulent, but leftwingers are allowed to shoot pro-life activists and face no jail time at all.

This is how the double-standard works. Do actual harm, get undercharged, plea out and walk if you're on the right side. Do no actual harm, get railroaded, have the book thrown at you, and go to jail for a generation if you're on the wrong side.

Tyranny, baby.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

Posted by: Ace at 04:28 PM




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1 I got nothin'.

Posted by: Jordan61 at May 25, 2023 04:28 PM (DRSnL)

2 U.S. District Court Judge Amit Mehta,

Judge Mehta is just imprisoning the citizens that Americans won't imprison

Really it is an act of love

Posted by: Jeb Bush at May 25, 2023 04:29 PM (lc5cP)

3 we had a good run as a nation

Posted by: brak at May 25, 2023 04:29 PM (25k9m)

4 They can throw whoever they want into jail forever.
You have no rights.
We all have no rights.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 25, 2023 04:30 PM (fZmG/)

5 2 U.S. District Court Judge Amit Mehta,

dis is not ur country, isnit ?

fuck these people

Posted by: REDACTED at May 25, 2023 04:31 PM (us2H3)

6 Fuck America

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at May 25, 2023 04:31 PM (VTu1l)

7 types...deletes...

Posted by: matthew.aukeman@gmail.com at May 25, 2023 04:31 PM (68RlD)

8 "You, sir, present an ongoing threat and a peril to this country, to the republic and to the very fabric of our democracy," said U.S. District Court Judge Amit Mehta, "

No, you are dickhead. A corrupt political actor, steeped in bias and nothing but a tool of anarchists and subversives.

Posted by: Veritas at May 25, 2023 04:32 PM (udhia)

9 Let me translate: You are an articulate spokesman for a political cause that threatens The Regime, so you must be put in the gulag.

Is this America?

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Yes it is. Well, the place is called that and all of the symbols reflect that and everything.

Spiritually, though, no. That country doesn't exist anymore. It isn't in the process of shifting, it isn't "being lost" and we're not at an inflection point. It's gone. In the past. Is no more. What we have is a totalitarian tyranny that operates arbitrarily according to no standards whatsoever. It's more like the East Germany of 1985 than it is like the United States of 1985. Pick any of the 20th or 21st century tyrannies out of a hat and we have more in common with it than we do with our own country as little as 25 years ago.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 25, 2023 04:32 PM (DU+/6)

10 "You, sir, present an ongoing threat and a peril to this country, to the republic and to the very fabric of our democracy," said U.S. District Court Judge Amit Mehta
__________________

When he says "this country," and "our democracy," is he talking about the U.S. or India?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 25, 2023 04:32 PM (YqDXo)

11 Someone put it that the right watched the Left all through the Summer of Love getting away with everything and figured, hey we can too.

We got conned.

Posted by: blaster at May 25, 2023 04:32 PM (pwExq)

12 U.S. District Court Judge Amit Mehta
_______________

An Obama appointee. Figures.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 25, 2023 04:33 PM (YqDXo)

13 Antifa literally does this every other month.

But they're "just a myth," right?

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But they work *for* the regime's interests, not against it. Believe me, an anti-Nazi street army would not have been tolerated, though the SA was (in fact, the SA fought and destroyed them).

And Antifa will learn what happens the moment it stops being useful.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 25, 2023 04:33 PM (DU+/6)

14 Keep weaponizing the justice system, assholes. What goes around comes around.

Posted by: Veritas at May 25, 2023 04:34 PM (udhia)

15 Dozens of people trespassing!

Can you imagine something like that? Politically-motivated people trespassing in political buildings?!

This is literally the go-to tactic of every leftwing group in America when a state legislature is attempting to pass a law they oppose.

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In Washington, they were villains.

In Nashville, they were heroes.

That's how this works.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 25, 2023 04:34 PM (DU+/6)

16 We can do National Divorce or we can have a capital city that plucks dissidents out from anywhere in the country and throws them in prison for 20 years for crimes manufactured by the intel community.

GOPe #1: I like the "plucks dissidents" option more.

GOPe #2: Yeah. The other thing sounds way too hard.

GOPe #3: And the government promises to only arrest dissidents, and they're bad.

Posted by: GOPe circle jerk at May 25, 2023 04:34 PM (NCgXW)

17 No conservative can get a fair trial in DC.
Not for years.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at May 25, 2023 04:34 PM (MeG8a)

18 "in the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol"

They keep using the phrase 'attack on the Capitol': it is all in the repetition, the Big-Lie technique.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 25, 2023 04:34 PM (fZmG/)

19 U.S. District Court Judge Amit Mehta, who uttered this foul abomination of a sentence, is a member of the FISA Court.

Anyone surprised?

Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 25, 2023 04:34 PM (2SuyT)

20 And if anyone watches the State encouraging those violent paramilitaries and coddling them, and thinks, "Say, that's how you advance your cause in America now" and tries to emulate them, the State quickly reminds you that only some paramilitaries have the right to throw molotov cocktails at cop cars and burn down courthouses.
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That's right. You will kneel before them or you will be destroyed. This only ends in a few possible outcomes.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 25, 2023 04:36 PM (DU+/6)

21 Even under Stalin, political prisoners generally received only ten or fifteen year sentences.

Posted by: Seven Days Until Pride Month! at May 25, 2023 04:36 PM (2tUFv)

22 fuck DC

Posted by: REDACTED at May 25, 2023 04:36 PM (us2H3)

23 I'm loyal to America, but I'm sure the hell not loyal to whatever this sh1thole we're living in is called.

Bingo. Anyone's life can be ruined, often for no justification.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 25, 2023 04:36 PM (Xrfse)

24 Founder of the Oath Keepers, Stuart Rhodes, has the world's worst attorneys who ought to be disbarred for such gross incompetence if not outright malice towards their client.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at May 25, 2023 04:36 PM (YXHzG)

25 But they work *for* the regime's interests, not against it. Believe me, an anti-Nazi street army would not have been tolerated, though the SA was (in fact, the SA fought and destroyed them).
___________

The anti-Nazi street army was the Roter Frontkämpferbund, a paramilitary arm of the KPD that actually triggered the formation of the SA to protect NSDAP meetings that the Roter Frontkämpferbund used to break up.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 25, 2023 04:36 PM (YqDXo)

26 Amit Priyavadan Mehta was born in 1971 in Patan, Gujarat, India. On July 31, 2014, President Barack Obama nominated Mehta to serve as a United States District Judge

Posted by: wth at May 25, 2023 04:37 PM (v0R5T)

27 we had a good run as a nation
Posted by: brak at May 25, 2023 04:29 PM (25k9m)

eh, almost 250 years. it's not a bad run. I think most countries didn't get that far without some kind of major change in government, even if they kept the same name...

Posted by: SturmToddler at May 25, 2023 04:37 PM (Mkvkw)

28 I know we already have the DeSantis/Trump debate, but I didn't get to ask this question: Who, other than Trump, causes RINO's to remove their own mask and commit career suicide?

Has DeSantis ever done that? Does everyone here realize how critical that is? Failure to do so is how we get W Bush, John McCain, Marco Rubio, and anyone else anointed by Paul Ryan, who unsurprisingly supports DeSantis. RINO's are the reason we have Mitch McConnells, $30 trillion debt, and no border.

How does anyone believe we can continue the RINO purge under a DeSantis presidency that has Paul Ryan's blessing? Amazing.

Posted by: Brisco County Sr at May 25, 2023 04:37 PM (Y0InX)

29 Welcome to the New Confederacy.

Posted by: Clear Eyed Killer at May 25, 2023 04:37 PM (c0zMy)

30 Even under Stalin, political prisoners generally received only ten or fifteen year sentences.
Posted by: Seven Days Until Pride Month! at May 25, 2023 04:36 PM (2tUFv)
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We'll get there. We're in the early stages where it's more about creating object lessons than enforcing baseline compliance.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 25, 2023 04:37 PM (DU+/6)

31 They invented "seditious conspiracy" because even they couldn't present 'sedition' with a straight face.

Posted by: Jay in PA at May 25, 2023 04:37 PM (i7Q7S)

32 Never forget, the GOP gave out medals to Capital LE.

GOP can eat my ass.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 25, 2023 04:38 PM (to8pj)

33 17 No conservative can get a fair trial in DC.
Not for years.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at May 25, 2023 04:34 PM

This trial is worse. You can't even avoid stepping foot in deep blue areas to be free from their persecution.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at May 25, 2023 04:38 PM (NCgXW)

34 Welp, this way of going about things sure seems sustainable.

Posted by: What corrupt governments always think just before... at May 25, 2023 04:38 PM (/uwTS)

35 Founder of the Oath Keepers, Stuart Rhodes, has the world's worst attorneys who ought to be disbarred for such gross incompetence if not outright malice towards their client.

Do you really think that the end result would have been any different?

Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 25, 2023 04:38 PM (Xrfse)

36 Has DeSantis ever done that? Does everyone here realize how critical that is? Failure to do so is how we get W Bush, John McCain, Marco Rubio, and anyone else anointed by Paul Ryan, who unsurprisingly supports DeSantis. RINO's are the reason we have Mitch McConnells, $30 trillion debt, and no border.

How does anyone believe we can continue the RINO purge under a DeSantis presidency that has Paul Ryan's blessing? Amazing.
Posted by: Brisco County Sr at May 25, 2023 04:37 PM (Y0InX)


Lincoln Project types are promoting Trump over DeSantis. Do with that what you will.

Posted by: blaster at May 25, 2023 04:38 PM (pwExq)

37 I'll be Rhodes is kicking himself for submitting quietly and trusting to the legal system.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, GotG vol 3 review at May 25, 2023 04:38 PM (xcxpd)

38 Amit Priyavadan Mehta was born in 1971 in Patan, Gujarat, India. On July 31, 2014, President Barack Obama nominated Mehta to serve as a United States District Judge
Posted by: wth at May 25, 2023 04:37 PM (v0R5T)

doing the jobs americans wont do...

Posted by: SturmToddler at May 25, 2023 04:39 PM (Mkvkw)

39 For 3 straight days in June 2020 BLM and antifa rioters attacked the White with bricks, rocks, frozen water bottles and other assorted items. 60 Secret Service and other law enforcement were injured, 11 were sent to the hospital. They even attempted to burn down St John's Episcopal Church in DC after defacing it with graffiti.

There was way more violence against government institutions in those riots than on Jan 6th. Nobody is rotting in prison for that.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 25, 2023 04:39 PM (ZLI7S)

40 Even under Stalin, political prisoners generally received only ten or fifteen year sentences.
Posted by: Seven Days Until Pride Month! at May 25, 2023 04:36 PM (2tUFv)
________________

Some of them even survived their ten or fifteen year sentences.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 25, 2023 04:39 PM (YqDXo)

41 This trial is worse. You can't even avoid stepping foot in deep blue areas to be free from their persecution.
Posted by: Moron Analyst at May 25, 2023 04:38 PM (NCgXW)
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Yup. There is no such thing as a fair trial in *any* blue hive or seat of government. Whether there's any possibility for a fair trial *at all* is an open question in my mind.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 25, 2023 04:39 PM (DU+/6)

42 OK, I read this fucker Amit's Wiki bio and he's a full blooded Trump Hater.

Posted by: wth at May 25, 2023 04:39 PM (v0R5T)

43 The Judge was born in India and I have no doubt a biased weapon of the Left.

Posted by: polynikes at May 25, 2023 04:39 PM (MNhXM)

44 This is why when conservatives always say "you won't like the new rules" or "the people won't take this anymore...there's gonna be hell to pay", etc, I just shake my head. Leftists can riot and pillage without fear but the full force of the judicial system is brought down on any conservative doing even the mildest of protesting. Worse is that while leftist politicians will never denounce their own most Republicans can't abandon their supporters fast enough even when allegations are completely false.

Posted by: JT Smith at May 25, 2023 04:40 PM (FxdZx)

45 24 Founder of the Oath Keepers, Stuart Rhodes, has the world's worst attorneys who ought to be disbarred for such gross incompetence if not outright malice towards their client.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at May 25, 2023 04:36 PM (YXHzG)

I know where I'm laying my bet.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, GotG vol 3 review at May 25, 2023 04:40 PM (xcxpd)

46 Fucking Hitler only got five years.

Posted by: polynikes at May 25, 2023 04:40 PM (MNhXM)

47 21 Even under Stalin, political prisoners generally received only ten or fifteen year sentences.
Posted by: Seven Days Until Pride Month! at May 25, 2023 04:36 PM (2tUFv)


Jo was always soft on crime

Posted by: REDACTED at May 25, 2023 04:40 PM (us2H3)

48 Do you really think that the end result would have been any different?
Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 25, 2023 04:38 PM (Xrfse)


I think 18 years is the longest sentence so far. He was going to be convicted. He could have probably gotten a shorter sentence with better lawyering.

But I also think Rhodes himself was his own worst enemy.

Posted by: blaster at May 25, 2023 04:41 PM (pwExq)

49
Is this America?

Hugh Betcha

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 25, 2023 04:41 PM (63Dwl)

50 "You, sir, present an ongoing threat and a peril to this country, to the republic and to the very fabric of our democracy," said U.S. District Court Judge Amit Mehta
__________________

When he says "this country," and "our democracy," is he talking about the U.S. or India?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara


IT'S NOT A DEMOCRACY!!!

Posted by: rickb223 at May 25, 2023 04:41 PM (6hSPF)

51 >>>How does anyone believe we can continue the RINO purge under a DeSantis presidency that has Paul Ryan's blessing?

Donald Trump told the Freedom Caucus to vote for Paul Ryan for Speaker, even though they were dead-opposed to it.

They listened to Trump, and now Trump says, "But DeSantis voted for Paul Ryan for Speaker! Just because I urged them to!!!"

Take this weak bullshit back to Conservative Treehouse. And ask "Sundance" why Trump empowered Fauci and Birx to lock the country down while whining on Twitter that he rilly, rilly, rilly wanted to open the country back up, if only he had the power!

Posted by: ace at May 25, 2023 04:41 PM (KRtlO)

52 This is why when conservatives always say "you won't like the new rules" or "the people won't take this anymore...there's gonna be hell to pay", etc, I just shake my head. Leftists can riot and pillage without fear but the full force of the judicial system is brought down on any conservative doing even the mildest of protesting. Worse is that while leftist politicians will never denounce their own most Republicans can't abandon their supporters fast enough even when allegations are completely false.
Posted by: JT Smith at May 25, 2023 04:40 PM (FxdZx)

the new rules will be when vigil ups the ante ...

Posted by: SturmToddler at May 25, 2023 04:41 PM (Mkvkw)

53 Nations can survive a lot of things but a two-track criminal "justice" system that favors one constituency above another is not one of them.

We need to hasten the partition of this country. If you still live in a place where you're in peril of being thrown into a prison for defending yourself against the left, either with words or actions, leave now. Move somewhere where your liberty has a fighting chance.

It's true that there are more of us than there are of them, but even an army that outnumbers the enemy can be cut to pieces if they're scattered about the battlefield. It's time to regroup.

If you're thinking of traveling to one of these places, don't. You could get caught in a confluence of events out of your control and then tracked down and thrown into the gulag.

Posted by: ballistic at May 25, 2023 04:41 PM (oXNqT)

54 18 years. You could shoot someone and not get that.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at May 25, 2023 04:41 PM (ppBhU)

55 Wonder if Amit has a green card or just a fake BC .

Posted by: wth at May 25, 2023 04:41 PM (v0R5T)

56 I'm a dumb dumb but is there any way SCOTUS can step in and go "this is a level of faggotry in DC judges we didn't think possible so we're stopping these ridiculous sentences."

This isn't even a matter of if SCOTUS would take up the cases because they're limp dicked post op skin graft trannies, but is there any remedy to this beyond a pardon?

Posted by: UwU_Power at May 25, 2023 04:42 PM (3kWw+)

57 48 Do you really think that the end result would have been any different?
Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 25, 2023 04:38 PM (Xrfse)

I think 18 years is the longest sentence so far. He was going to be convicted. He could have probably gotten a shorter sentence with better lawyering.

But I also think Rhodes himself was his own worst enemy.
Posted by: blaster at May 25, 2023 04:41 PM (pwExq)

The way that slut was dressed, they had it coming.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, GotG vol 3 review at May 25, 2023 04:42 PM (xcxpd)

58 You will never get a fair trial in DC or any other Lefty city if you are a conservative.

Whoever is the next Republican President (if the election is not stolen from them like in 2020) should do a massive amount of pardons of anyone either arrested or convicted of anything doing with the walk in on the Capitol on Jan 6.

And those pardoned should be permitted to sue the ever loving crap out of the members of the January 6th committee, Merrick Garland, Christopher Wray and a multitude of others.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 25, 2023 04:42 PM (4q/mG)

59 He was born in India. Why does he dictate to America what is appropriate political protest?

This is what unfettered immigration has wrought.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 25, 2023 04:42 PM (ZCCyW)

60 "And ask "Sundance" why Trump empowered Fauci and Birx "

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Also ask them who appointed the current FBI director and the current Woke Chairman of the Joint Chiefs.

Posted by: Jay in PA at May 25, 2023 04:42 PM (i7Q7S)

61 Socialist, communists and labor unions committed far greater violence, engaged in far more dangerous conspiracies and waged far more extensive campaigns of terror.

And not one judge spoke to a single one this way. If they had, the Supreme Court would have thrown out the conviction and sanctioned the judge.

But this ass in a black robe perverts the law to imprison political dissidents because they can't execute Trump. Yet.

If you're reading this, you have a duty to get on every jury you can and refuse to convict no matter the case or facts.
An oath to an illegal, illegitimate regime is not binding; and is no more dishonest to break than refusing to cooperate with your captors.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 25, 2023 04:42 PM (Vhzin)

62 Elizabeth Holmes got less than eleven.

Posted by: Wow at May 25, 2023 04:43 PM (s+mEu)

63 46 Fucking Hitler only got five years.
Posted by: polynikes at May 25, 2023 04:40 PM

True, but (insert name of previous leader) Hitler was much more moderate and reasonable than the extreme right wing (insert name of current Republican candidate) TrumpSantis.

Posted by: Dem Strategist Talking Points at May 25, 2023 04:43 PM (NCgXW)

64 Sorry I'm late! I'm here now!

Posted by: 1984 at May 25, 2023 04:43 PM (CHHv1)

65 I'm loyal to America

******************

Thats like saying Im loyal to my waifu Tifa Lockhart, whose sunny man-loving disposition and substantial gazumbo jigaloo shooba shoobas keeps my cold dark soul warm at night

in other words, loyal to something that doesnt exist

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at May 25, 2023 04:43 PM (VTu1l)

66 18 years. You could shoot someone and not get that.

They take threats to their hegemony very seriously. There is no rule of law any longer. Only the will to power.

Posted by: Halfhand at May 25, 2023 04:43 PM (Ud/Am)

67 OK, I read this fucker Amit's Wiki bio and he's a full blooded Trump Hater.

A guy in our company getting Naturalized today is similar to Amit in his political disposition and is looking forward to voting for jackbooted tyranny.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at May 25, 2023 04:44 PM (YXHzG)

68 Garlands Kangaroo Court is in session

Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2023 04:44 PM (xhxe8)

69 RAY EPPS

Posted by: John Blutarsky at May 25, 2023 04:44 PM (jM1wU)

70 Elizabeth Holmes got less than eleven.
Posted by: Wow at May 25, 2023 04:43 PM (s+mEu)
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She just stole lots of money and caused harm through bogus test results.

These guys literally tried to destroy democracy!

Posted by: Hysterical analyst, frothing at the mouth at May 25, 2023 04:44 PM (DU+/6)

71 Notice how these "worst threats ever to the safety of our country" don't rally or fight to get their leaders released. If these groups were such huge terror threats the government wouldn't be flaunting these bogus cases, they'd be doing things low key to not rile up the supposed giant threat to the country.

All these groups were just guys who would sit in someone's basement and complain about government, and the criminals in the DoJ and white house are acting like they were the founding fathers plotting revolution.

Trump or DeSantis needs to play the same game come 2025, any protestor lighting a fire, breaking a window, trying to get on the white house grounds, all need to be charged with dozens of crimes, held for years without trial, put in front of a partisan far right judge, and face a jury of right wing hillbillies that will choose life in prison for them.

Posted by: Rbastid at May 25, 2023 04:44 PM (GwPIh)

72 I bet he shits where he bathes.

Posted by: wth at May 25, 2023 04:45 PM (v0R5T)

73 >>>I'm a dumb dumb but is there any way SCOTUS can step in and go "this is a level of faggotry in DC judges we didn't think possible so we're stopping these ridiculous sentences."

Well, you can appeal a sentence (and a conviction). But appeals are usually based on erroneous application of law, not erroneous finding of *facts.* This jury and this judge are claiming it's a *fact* that he committed "terrorism," and appeals courts only disturb those findings when the lower court *clearly* erred.

That said, when a judge starts making it clear in sentencing that he's sentencing the person for political ideas he disagrees with, it's a problem.

But almost every judge has made it clear they're sentencing these people based on their political speech, not their crimes, and no one's gotten a sentence appealed yet.

Posted by: ace at May 25, 2023 04:45 PM (KRtlO)

74 News clip from December 2024:

One month after Donald Trump's surprising election victory, many cities are still aflame with rioters promising further destruction if Trump is inaugurated.

Republican leaders have seized on the violence, calling out their democrat counterparts for not speaking out against the widespread rioting.

So far, no arrests have been made.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 25, 2023 04:45 PM (KbCG3)

75 18 years. Apparatchik Garland surpasses his Soviet mentors.

Posted by: Traitor democrats, Raping, Trafficking and Mutilating the Children They Cannot Kill at May 25, 2023 04:45 PM (0q+t6)

76 And ask "Sundance" why Trump empowered Fauci and Birx "

*************

It's one thing to like and respect Trump, it's another to see someone like Sundance's cheese sliding off the cracker

What a loon

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at May 25, 2023 04:46 PM (VTu1l)

77 But I also think Rhodes himself was his own worst enemy.

How so? I admit, I know very little of the Oath Keepers or this dude in particular. Seem to me that he got railroaded. Please enlighten me.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 25, 2023 04:46 PM (Xrfse)

78 73 That said, when a judge starts making it clear in sentencing that he's sentencing the person for political ideas he disagrees with, it's a problem.

But almost every judge has made it clear they're sentencing these people based on their political speech, not their crimes, and no one's gotten a sentence appealed yet.
Posted by: ace at May 25, 2023 04:45 PM (KRtlO)

=======

You sound like an educated gentleman in the field of law.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, on just the weirdest trip with John Boorman at May 25, 2023 04:46 PM (LvTSG)

79 The way that slut was dressed, they had it coming.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, GotG vol 3 review at May 25, 2023 04:42 PM (xcxpd)


What you say and do in the courtroom matters.

Also, apparently Rhodes' attorneys were happy he didn't get more time.

Posted by: blaster at May 25, 2023 04:46 PM (pwExq)

80 Mehta: "What we cannot have, what we absolutely cannot have is a group of citizens who because they didn't like the outcome of an election and don't believe the law was carried out in the way they believe it should be, for them to take up arms in order to foment a revolution."

Mehta made up a monster in his head and then punished Rhodes for Mehta's fantasy. Rhodes did not take up arms. Rhodes did not foment a revolution.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 25, 2023 04:46 PM (R38qh)

81 We can do National Divorce or we can have a capital city that plucks dissidents out from anywhere in the country and throws them in prison for 20 years for crimes manufactured by the intel community.

It's that simple.

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One hundred percent correct. This country will break up or become a totalitarian dungeon.

Any approach that doesn't proceed from that basic assumption is doomed.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 25, 2023 04:47 PM (oINRc)

82 All these organs of the corrupt govt... for their sake I hope the S doesn't HTF. They wont be very popular once their system is kaput.

Posted by: weew at May 25, 2023 04:47 PM (/uwTS)

83 76 It's one thing to like and respect Trump, it's another to see someone like Sundance's cheese sliding off the cracker

What a loon
Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at May 25, 2023 04:46 PM

Trust the plan!! 🤪

Posted by: Fell out of the Conservative Treehouse at May 25, 2023 04:47 PM (NCgXW)

84 46 Fucking Hitler only got five years.

didn't realize that was a crime

Posted by: eva braun at May 25, 2023 04:47 PM (oY6Yp)

85 I'm out--there was already one DeSatan versus Drumpf thread today and most points were thoroughly hashed out.

Ace's post was a disappearance in the rule of law exhibited by judges. It is a systemic fault, not a DeSantis or Trump issue but the entire political regime's Uniparty evil.

Posted by: whig at May 25, 2023 04:47 PM (wUSgb)

86 Posted by: ace at May 25, 2023 04:41 PM (KRtlO)

And Trump supported Ronna McDaniel and McCarthy (although he is doing...okay).

The claim that Trump is some paragon of anti-RINO fervor is risible.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 25, 2023 04:47 PM (ZCCyW)

87 But almost every judge has made it clear they're sentencing these people based on their political speech, not their crimes, and no one's gotten a sentence appealed yet.
Posted by: ace at May 25, 2023 04:45 PM (KRtlO)
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And they won't. I think this is part of the point of it. The judges and prosecutors are making it very, very clear what's going and how this works. If you do *anything* in opposition to the state, you have no rights and can expect no standards to be followed or applied, the law is irrelevant and you *will* be destroyed in the process.

They're sending a message, and making sure it's clear enough for everyone to thoroughly understand it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 25, 2023 04:48 PM (DU+/6)

88 >>You sound like an educated gentleman in the field of law.

Holiday Inn Express.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 25, 2023 04:48 PM (ZLI7S)

89 How so? I admit, I know very little of the Oath Keepers or this dude in particular. Seem to me that he got railroaded. Please enlighten me.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 25, 2023 04:46 PM (Xrfse)


He spent his time in court saying that the Left was destroying the country and that he would continue his fight from jail.

That might be principled. Or it might be dumb. Take your pick.

Posted by: blaster at May 25, 2023 04:48 PM (pwExq)

90 You could say this country has been fundamentally transformed. Hooray?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at May 25, 2023 04:48 PM (fs1hN)

91 What you say and do in the courtroom matters.

Also, apparently Rhodes' attorneys were happy he didn't get more time.
Posted by: blaster at May 25, 2023 04:46 PM (pwExq)

*double my bet @45*

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, GotG vol 3 review at May 25, 2023 04:48 PM (xcxpd)

92 What "arms" did anyone "take up?" Besides the Capitol Police who murdered people, I mean?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 25, 2023 04:48 PM (DU+/6)

93 “Amit Priyavadan Mehta was born in 1971 in Patan, Gujarat, India”

I thoroughly enjoy lectures about what America means from such people. Please advise me when I can visit India and instruct you from a judicial bench about what it means to be Indian.

Posted by: some lurker at May 25, 2023 04:48 PM (PleL+)

94 But I also think Rhodes himself was his own worst enemy.
.........

should have told the Judge he identifies as a sacred cow.

Posted by: wth at May 25, 2023 04:49 PM (v0R5T)

95 But almost every judge has made it clear they're sentencing these people based on their political speech, not their crimes, and no one's gotten a sentence appealed yet.
Posted by: ace
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Usually takes about 18 months to longer for sentencing appeals to be heard. Unfortunately, they will be in the DC circuit.

Posted by: whig at May 25, 2023 04:49 PM (wUSgb)

96 But I also think Rhodes himself was his own worst enemy.
Posted by: blaster at May 25, 2023 04:41 PM (pwExq)


And what WAS Pearl Harbor doing in the Pacific in the first place?

Posted by: Kindltot at May 25, 2023 04:49 PM (xhaym)

97 You voted your way into this you can vote your way out.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 25, 2023 04:49 PM (ga8qR)

98 Wasn't Trump still President on Jan. 6th and Joe was "installed" on the 20th ?

Posted by: It's me donna at May 25, 2023 04:49 PM (bs+z0)

99 One hundred percent correct. This country will break up or become a totalitarian dungeon.

************

I pray to God every day we'll be able to segregate the populace such that all the AWFLs get sent to Guantanamo while the newly formed United Territories of Trumsantis keeps all of Mannix's girls

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at May 25, 2023 04:50 PM (VTu1l)

100 What you say and do in the courtroom matters.

Also, apparently Rhodes' attorneys were happy he didn't get more time.
Posted by: blaster at May 25, 2023 04:46 PM (pwExq)

Yeah, had he done better it would have only been 15 years. Yah justice!!!

Posted by: Crom Laughs at May 25, 2023 04:50 PM (GNPj+)

101 @70

>>She just stole lots of money and caused harm through bogus test results.

Actually, Holmes never actually brought a product to market and thus never actually harmed anyone physically other than the investors she ripped off.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 25, 2023 04:50 PM (up/3i)

102 "18 years. You could shoot someone and not get that."


There was a local story this week about a woman who was killed by her boyfriend, he did only 10 years for activated manslaughter, yet this guy will do almost double that because he speaks well and doesn't believe we should become a communist shit hole.

Posted by: Rbastid at May 25, 2023 04:50 PM (GwPIh)

103 101 Actually, Holmes never actually brought a product to market and thus never actually harmed anyone physically other than the investors she ripped off.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 25, 2023 04:50 PM (up/3i)

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Ah, but her investors were the elite.

That kind of fraud is worse than physical harm. It made them look dumb.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, on just the weirdest trip with John Boorman at May 25, 2023 04:51 PM (LvTSG)

104 I can’t find one article on google that tells me when Amit Mehta came to the United States.

Posted by: polynikes at May 25, 2023 04:51 PM (MNhXM)

105 If you were still thinking that you lived in the land of the free, then this should help convince you otherwise.

Do not go behind enemy lines !

Posted by: Next2Nothing at May 25, 2023 04:51 PM (tA1/w)

106 81 One hundred percent correct. This country will break up or become a totalitarian dungeon.

Any approach that doesn't proceed from that basic assumption is doomed.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 25, 2023 04:47 PM

Marxists and Commies aren't known for their willingness to fairly split assets and control. Thankfully, the US populace is better armed than all the other places where the commies violently seized power. Unfortunately, the commies have been successful in gradually weakening our national identity and gun culture, so that may not be the case much longer.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at May 25, 2023 04:51 PM (NCgXW)

107 There was a local story this week about a woman who was killed by her boyfriend, he did only 10 years for activated manslaughter, yet this guy will do almost double that because he speaks well and doesn't believe we should become a communist shit hole.
Posted by: Rbastid at May 25, 2023 04:50 PM (GwPIh)
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Yeah, he was given a much longer sentence than most killers and rapists. And he'll probably be forced to serve every minute of it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 25, 2023 04:51 PM (DU+/6)

108 Mockingbird

Posted by: PG at May 25, 2023 04:51 PM (84jHt)

109 I thoroughly enjoy lectures about what America means from such people. Please advise me when I can visit India and instruct you from a judicial bench about what it means to be Indian.
Posted by: some lurker at May 25, 2023 04:48 PM (PleL+)

Hey, anyone can be an American you fascist.

Posted by: Propsitional Nation at May 25, 2023 04:51 PM (GNPj+)

110 92 What "arms" did anyone "take up?" Besides the Capitol Police who murdered people, I mean?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 25, 2023 04:48 PM (DU+/6)


The claim is that the Oath Keepers had a "quick reaction force" with guns staying in Arlington VA. I don't know if this is true. I think it is probably true that there were people in Arlington politically aligned and who also had guns, but those are legal. But the judge has made clear the narrative.

Posted by: blaster at May 25, 2023 04:52 PM (pwExq)

111 I do worry and pray for the inmates at Garland Gulag. They are all political prisoners.

Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2023 04:52 PM (xhxe8)

112 51 >>> Take this weak bullshit back to Conservative Treehouse. And ask "Sundance" why Trump empowered Fauci and Birx to lock the country down while whining on Twitter that he rilly, rilly, rilly wanted to open the country back up, if only he had the power!

Posted by: ace at May 25, 2023 04:41 PM (KRtlO)

Ace, I'm not going to defend Trump's mistakes, of which we can all cite examples. I'm going to hit on the one point that matters most: We cannot go back to the old Republican party. It's suicidal. They are enablers for the left, as evidenced when they corroborated with them to steal the election. There's no compromising with a party who does that. Give me the bull in the China shop any day over that.

Posted by: Brisco County Sr at May 25, 2023 04:52 PM (Y0InX)

113 I don't want national divorce. I don't want them in another country. I want them six feet below ours.

Posted by: Ken at May 25, 2023 04:52 PM (7PDge)

114 That might be principled. Or it might be dumb. Take your pick.

Well, he was right. Seems like he followed his conscience. Obviously turned out to cost him, big time. Our precious democracy has been spared.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 25, 2023 04:52 PM (Xrfse)

115 The claim is that the Oath Keepers had a "quick reaction force" with guns staying in Arlington VA. I don't know if this is true. I think it is probably true that there were people in Arlington politically aligned and who also had guns, but those are legal. But the judge has made clear the narrative.
Posted by: blaster at May 25, 2023 04:52 PM (pwExq)
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Even if the assertion is true, they weren't at the Capitol engaging in insurrection. "You have friends who would have been willing to take up arms had they been there" isn't exactly a watertight position.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 25, 2023 04:53 PM (DU+/6)

116 Contrast the 18 year sentence to this:

IONIA, Mich. (AP) — A western Michigan man who pleaded no contest to shooting an 84-year-old woman campaigning against abortion rights at his home was sentenced to community service Tuesday.

Richard Harvey, 75, was ordered to complete 100 hours of community service. Judge Suzanne Hoseth Kreeger also gave him a suspended jail sentence of two months and a delayed sentence of one year on probation.

Harvey pleaded no contest last month to felonious assault, careless discharge of a firearm causing injury and reckless discharge of a firearm.

Posted by: Jay in PA at May 25, 2023 04:53 PM (i7Q7S)

117 >>>Has DeSantis ever done that? Does everyone here realize how critical that is? Failure to do so is how we get W Bush, John McCain, Marco Rubio, and anyone else anointed by Paul Ryan, who unsurprisingly supports DeSantis. RINO's are the reason we have Mitch McConnells, $30 trillion debt, and no border.

Tell me how it feels to support the Lindsey Graham-supported candidate.

Funny how you guys always leave him off the list of RINOs.

Posted by: ace at May 25, 2023 04:53 PM (KRtlO)

118 Marxists and Commies...
Posted by: Moron Analyst at May 25, 2023 04:51 PM (NCgXW)

We have to stop throwing around this stupid terminology. We aren't fighting Marxists and commies. We're fighting a lunatic secular religion bound together by their belief that they are gods.

Posted by: Crom Laughs at May 25, 2023 04:53 PM (GNPj+)

119 I can’t find one article on google that tells me when Amit Mehta came to the United States.

**********

he was born in India (surprise) graduated high school here

absolute zero fucking info on his immigration status

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at May 25, 2023 04:54 PM (VTu1l)

120 He spent his time in court saying that the Left was destroying the country and that he would continue his fight from jail.

That might be principled. Or it might be dumb. Take your pick.
Posted by: blaster at May 25, 2023 04:48 PM (pwExq)

I don’t disagree with you in general but he wasn’t wrong. And the Left just proved him right by over sentencing him.

Posted by: polynikes at May 25, 2023 04:54 PM (MNhXM)

121 103 Ah, but her investors were the elite.

That kind of fraud is worse than physical harm. It made them look dumb. It showed the public our elites are dumb.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, on just the weirdest trip with John Boorman at May 25, 2023 04:51 PM

Suggested edit. They didn't just look dumb...if they weren't dumb, they wouldn't have invested in such an obviously bullshit scheme.

Posted by: Fake AoS editor at May 25, 2023 04:54 PM (NCgXW)

122 ooohh. Come back to a low blow from Chuy. I expected the really dirty tricks to be saved for a few months from now.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2023 04:54 PM (/xaUq)

123 Good to know the primary war won't be contained to one thread. I'm not blaming ace, an unfamiliar nic started it here. But I'm exhausted of all of it and in a late-voting state. Good thing the weather outside is improving! Y'all have fun.

Posted by: Catherine at May 25, 2023 04:54 PM (ZSsrh)

124 IONIA, Mich. (AP) — A western Michigan man who pleaded no contest to shooting an 84-year-old woman campaigning against abortion rights at his home was sentenced to community service Tuesday.

Richard Harvey, 75, was ordered to complete 100 hours of community service. Judge Suzanne Hoseth Kreeger also gave him a suspended jail sentence of two months and a delayed sentence of one year on probation.

Harvey pleaded no contest last month to felonious assault, careless discharge of a firearm causing injury and reckless discharge of a firearm.
Posted by: Jay in PA at May 25, 2023 04:53 PM (i7Q7S)
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This is how the double-standard works. Do actual harm, get undercharged, plea out and walk if you're on the right side. Do no actual harm, get railroaded, have the book thrown at you, and go to jail for a generation if you're on the wrong side.

Tyranny, baby.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 25, 2023 04:55 PM (DU+/6)

125 But the judge has made clear the narrative.

Well, that's all we need to know, right?

Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 25, 2023 04:55 PM (Xrfse)

126 I know we already have the DeSantis/Trump debate, but I didn't get to ask this question: Who, other than Trump, causes RINO's to remove their own mask and commit career suicide?

Has DeSantis ever done that? Does everyone here realize how critical that is? Failure to do so is how we get W Bush, John McCain, Marco Rubio, and anyone else anointed by Paul Ryan, who unsurprisingly supports DeSantis. RINO's are the reason we have Mitch McConnells, $30 trillion debt, and no border.

How does anyone believe we can continue the RINO purge under a DeSantis presidency that has Paul Ryan's blessing? Amazing.
Posted by: Brisco County Sr at May 25, 2023 04:37 PM (Y0InX)

I'm not in the war, but DeSantis did get Disney to drop their mask and then also put the hammer to them. Trump has done it more often, but DeSantis has a big scalp on his wall.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 25, 2023 04:55 PM (eoQWY)

127 Even if the assertion is true, they weren't at the Capitol engaging in insurrection. "You have friends who would have been willing to take up arms had they been there" isn't exactly a watertight position.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 25, 2023 04:53 PM (DU+/6)


That's why the charge was seditious conspiracy.

Posted by: blaster at May 25, 2023 04:55 PM (pwExq)

128 He'd be better off as a prisoner in Guantanamo.

Posted by: TexasDan at May 25, 2023 04:55 PM (OO1BO)

129 The claim is that the Oath Keepers had a "quick reaction force" with guns staying in Arlington VA. I don't know if this is true. I think it is probably true that there were people in Arlington politically aligned and who also had guns, but those are legal. But the judge has made clear the narrative.
Posted by: blaster at May 25, 2023 04:52 PM (pwExq)

If I remember correctly, the "QRF" was some old, fat guy who was feeling ill that day.

Posted by: Crom Laughs at May 25, 2023 04:55 PM (GNPj+)

130 I'm not really fond of people who encourage other people to break the law, if he was outside of the Capitol building telling other people to go in, I'm not impressed.

However, Ray Epps did the same, didn't he?

Also, putting someone "charismatic" in prison is usually a bad idea.

Posted by: Synova at May 25, 2023 04:55 PM (BD/yx)

131 Good to know the primary war won't be contained to one thread. I'm not blaming ace, an unfamiliar nic started it here. But I'm exhausted of all of it and in a late-voting state. Good thing the weather outside is improving! Y'all have fun.
Posted by: Catherine at May 25, 2023 04:54 PM (ZSsrh)

My state doesn't have elections anymore.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 25, 2023 04:55 PM (eoQWY)

132 >>>Ace, I'm not going to defend Trump's mistakes, of which we can all cite examples. I'm going to hit on the one point that matters most: We cannot go back to the old Republican party

can we go back to Lindsey Graham or nah?

I'm tired of guilt by association. Yes, a LOT of people prefer DeSantis over Trump, becuase they hate Trump. But you keep casting Trump's unpopularity, which causes people to seek out alternatives, as some kind of positive, using it as an attack against DeSantis.

DeSantis doesn't gall people the way Trump does and people gravitate towards someone they think they can beat Trump -- so that's a knock on DeSantis?!?!!? Trump's massively unpopular, and so that's DeSantis' problem? He's got the support of people who hate Trump, and that's a knock on DeSantis rather than Trump?

Posted by: ace at May 25, 2023 04:55 PM (KRtlO)

133 @89

>>That might be principled. Or it might be dumb. Take your pick.

Well, you either live on your knees or die on your feet, he chose death, metaphorically speaking.

It remains to be seen if The Junta really wants to make an example of him and load his cell with blankets, perhaps give him a celly who has a few murders under his belt and no f**ks to give but would like a slightly better deal than the one he's got.

Time will tell.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 25, 2023 04:55 PM (up/3i)

134 127 Even if the assertion is true, they weren't at the Capitol engaging in insurrection. "You have friends who would have been willing to take up arms had they been there" isn't exactly a watertight position.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 25, 2023 04:53 PM (DU+/6)

That's why the charge was seditious conspiracy.
Posted by: blaster at May 25, 2023 04:55 PM (pwExq)

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But communists who swore oaths to rise up in violent overthrow of the US government are American heroes.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, on just the weirdest trip with John Boorman at May 25, 2023 04:55 PM (LvTSG)

135 This is why I can't support Ron.
I want the entire DC Uniparty outraged, driven insane. Evil destroys evil. There are no good guys in DC. No, not a one.

Some think there is work that can still be done in DC. Yes, forging another chain the left will use to bind us. Indeed, every day pretending they are a legitimate government is just another link.

I don't want anything done-- the left will follow no new law, their agents cells in the bureaucracy will follow no new rule, their judges will ensure any act of a Republican president and Congress is a nullity, their patrons in the media, tech and academia will prevent any punishment or firings.

You can whistle past the graveyard of America, pretend there's a magical path to "government that works."
I choose the path that hastens the destruction of the whole corrupt, crumbling, totalitarian state.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 25, 2023 04:56 PM (Vhzin)

136
fuck DC

Posted by: REDACTED at May 25, 2023 04:36 PM


I'm 80 miles north of DC and if the wind is blowing the wrong way could be somewhat problematic but if someone nuked those bastids I would not shed a single tear.

They made their bed, let them be irradiated in it.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 25, 2023 04:56 PM (enJYY)

137 They were all lured in by Ray Epps break in team. He has to know what was coming taking down signs and barricades

Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2023 04:56 PM (xhxe8)

138 "Who, other than Trump, causes RINO's to remove their own mask and commit career suicide?"

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Who, exactly, committed career suicide?

I mean, all of Trump's political enemies are still on TV and tweeting incessantly.

Posted by: Jay in PA at May 25, 2023 04:56 PM (i7Q7S)

139 We can do National Divorce or we can have a capital city that plucks dissidents out from anywhere in the country and throws them in prison for 20 years for crimes manufactured by the intel community.

+++++++++++++++++++++++

What I want to know is why every damn time the local cops in deep red parts of America go along 100% when the DC gangster regime sends its thugs in to pluck out non-leftist dissidents and take them to gangster-controlled areas?

Shouldn't our first order of business be, get our own houses in order? Because any time these stormtroopers go into deep red areas to abduct non-leftists, they should get immediately turned around or . . . if the thugs don't take no for answer . . . forcibly ejected.

Posted by: Bamanarama at May 25, 2023 04:56 PM (uH1aC)

140 113 I don't want national divorce. I don't want them in another country. I want them six feet below ours.
Posted by: Ken at May 25, 2023 04:52 PM

Where's that? China? I think you've gotta dig a little deeper than that to reach our Chinese friends, Jack.

Posted by: Joe Biden at May 25, 2023 04:56 PM (NCgXW)

141 Since when does personal charisma come into sentencing?

Does that help him with an appeal?

Apparently I still have this tiny sliver of misplaced hope in the courts.

Posted by: TexasDan at May 25, 2023 04:56 PM (OO1BO)

142 The judge gave away the game when he made those utterly ridiculous, scripted comments at sentencing. Purely for media consumption and to get his name in the papers. I’d say this was a political prosecution, but that’d be an insult to political prosecutions.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 25, 2023 04:57 PM (PHtP3)

143 But almost every judge has made it clear they're sentencing these people based on their political speech, not their crimes, and no one's gotten a sentence appealed yet.
Posted by: ace at May 25, 2023 04:45 PM (KRtlO)
++++
I am altering the Justice system, pray I don't alter it any further.

Posted by: Levrenti Garland at May 25, 2023 04:57 PM (wN4US)

144 Trump or DeSantis needs to play the same game come 2025, any protestor lighting a fire, breaking a window, trying to get on the white house grounds, all need to be charged with dozens of crimes, held for years without trial, put in front of a partisan far right judge, and face a jury of right wing hillbillies that will choose life in prison for them.

That assumes that DeTrump has Svengali powers and can make establishment Deep State, America hating prosecutors and "judges" go against their own narcissistic egos.

The persecutors and "judges" hate you, hate America, hate God and love tormenting people of character. Welcome to the world that preëxisted the Great Experiment - one that is marked by violence, tyranny and evil.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at May 25, 2023 04:57 PM (YXHzG)

145 Tell me how it feels to support the Lindsey Graham-supported candidate.

Funny how you guys always leave him off the list of RINOs.
___

Well, Ah nevah....
*flounces off*

Posted by: Miss Lindsey at May 25, 2023 04:57 PM (fs1hN)

146 So Stuart Rhodes got sentenced to 18 years for doing the exact same thing Ray Epps did.

Posted by: Steven Fletcher at May 25, 2023 04:57 PM (+eUEt)

147 Marxists and Commies...
Posted by: Moron Analyst at May 25, 2023 04:51 PM (NCgXW)

We have to stop throwing around this stupid terminology. We aren't fighting Marxists and commies. We're fighting a lunatic secular religion bound together by their belief that they are gods.
Posted by: Crom Laughs at May 25, 2023 04:53 PM (GNPj+)

That is what Marxism IS. Every implementation involves a secular God-King.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 25, 2023 04:57 PM (eoQWY)

148 That's why the charge was seditious conspiracy.
Posted by: blaster at May 25, 2023 04:55 PM (pwExq)

Which is an absurd law. I honestly don't know how SCOTUS hasn't nuked it.

Posted by: Crom Laughs at May 25, 2023 04:57 PM (GNPj+)

149 I don’t disagree with you in general but he wasn’t wrong. And the Left just proved him right by over sentencing him.
Posted by: polynikes at May 25, 2023 04:54 PM (MNhXM)


He's right. And he's in prison for likely the rest of his life.

It's hard to say is he living his principles out? I guess he might be really brave. Despite the cost, he did what he believed. There are plenty of martyrs. Sometimes they advance their cause. Sometimes they are just sacrifices.

Posted by: blaster at May 25, 2023 04:58 PM (pwExq)

150 > I can’t find one article on google that tells me when Amit Mehta came to the United States.

This article says Mehta was one year old when his parents moved to the US.

https://tinyurl.com/buewvpcp

Posted by: bonhomme at May 25, 2023 04:58 PM (R38qh)

151 I have to run to go install a light fixture. In farewell, here's a blonde in a tight dress who is thoroughly outraged about all of this:
https://is.gd/9Rul43

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 25, 2023 04:58 PM (DU+/6)

152 ""And ask "Sundance" why Trump empowered Fauci and Birx "====Also ask them who appointed the current FBI director and the current Woke Chairman of the Joint Chiefs."

Back in 2016 iirc, Sundance deleted a long comment thread ... he didn't like the way it was going, people asking questions about Trump in Wisconsin. He did save one comment ... about how Trump plays 7D chess, and Sundance plays 5D chess ... (the rest of the commenters should shut up and be thankful for such a smart host?)

Anyway ... he put up a few nice timelines I guess, but must be some second cousin to the Trump family or some such, idk.

At the moment Trump might have a better chance to win (if he is not in prison or in court for six months pre-election) ... but DeSantis might govern better. Will take an overwhelming victory due to the incredible Fraud Election Machine they have set up.

Posted by: illiniwek at May 25, 2023 04:58 PM (Cus5s)

153 If only he had a kiosk to use, this whole third could have been avoided.

Posted by: Professor Farnsworth at May 25, 2023 04:58 PM (fKIdX)

154 Meanwhile the "special Counsel" is leaking like a sieve about Trump's crimes..... Love Trump or hate him he has certainly been put through the ringer and it's not gonna end well with this one Me thinks...

Posted by: It's me donna at May 25, 2023 04:58 PM (bs+z0)

155 That assumes that DeTrump has Svengali powers and can make establishment Deep State, America hating prosecutors and "judges" go against their own narcissistic egos.

The persecutors and "judges" hate you, hate America, hate God and love tormenting people of character. Welcome to the world that preëxisted the Great Experiment - one that is marked by violence, tyranny and evil.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at May 25, 2023 04:57 PM (YXHzG)

"Hey, ah, ya know, we looked for those pesky rioters and wouldn't ya know, just couldn't find them! We'll try harder next time! Swearsies!" - FBI

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 25, 2023 04:59 PM (KbCG3)

156 138 "Who, other than Trump, causes RINO's to remove their own mask and commit career suicide?"

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Who, exactly, committed career suicide?

I mean, all of Trump's political enemies are still on TV and tweeting incessantly.
Posted by: Jay in PA at May 25, 2023 04:56 PM

Uh...Weekly Standard and National Review aren't what they used to be. John Kasich, the Bush family, Marco Rubio...they have all been much less relevant comparing their pre and post 2016 Trump election activities. And that's just off the top of my head.

Oh, I suppose Mike Pence, too lol

Posted by: Moron Analyst at May 25, 2023 04:59 PM (NCgXW)

157 But communists who swore oaths to rise up in violent overthrow of the US government are American heroes.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, on just the weirdest trip with John Boorman at May 25, 2023 04:55 PM (LvTSG)

Unlike those Nazis, Eliz Kazan and Walt Disney.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, GotG vol 3 review at May 25, 2023 04:59 PM (xcxpd)

158 "Who, other than Trump, causes RINO's to remove their own mask and commit career suicide?"

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Who, exactly, committed career suicide?

I mean, all of Trump's political enemies are still on TV and tweeting incessantly.
Posted by: Jay in PA at May 25, 2023 04:56 PM (i7Q7S)

Their networks committed suicide by backing these insane people. The masks came off, here the networks and their reputations paid the price.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 25, 2023 04:59 PM (eoQWY)

159 148 That's why the charge was seditious conspiracy.
Posted by: blaster at May 25, 2023 04:55 PM (pwExq)

Which is an absurd law. I honestly don't know how SCOTUS hasn't nuked it.


it's a tax!

Posted by: chief justice roberts at May 25, 2023 04:59 PM (oY6Yp)

160 The judge gave away the game when he made those utterly ridiculous, scripted comments at sentencing. Purely for media consumption and to get his name in the papers. I’d say this was a political prosecution, but that’d be an insult to political prosecutions.

So you think he is gaming for a seat on SCOTUS when Thomas gets the Scalia Dude Ranch treatment.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at May 25, 2023 04:59 PM (YXHzG)

161 John Kerry attended a meeting where the discussion and vote was on whether to assassinate a sitting US Senator. Kerry supposedly voted no.

Don’t bother to try and find this on the intertubes. It’s been scrubbed.

Posted by: polynikes at May 25, 2023 05:00 PM (MNhXM)

162 Which is an absurd law. I honestly don't know how SCOTUS hasn't nuked it.
Posted by: Crom Laughs at May 25, 2023 04:57 PM (GNPj+)


Yes you do.

Posted by: blaster at May 25, 2023 05:00 PM (pwExq)

163 Marxists and Commies aren't known for their willingness to fairly split assets and control.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at May 25, 2023 04:51 PM (NCgXW)


We should just call the bluff of these commies. Give them Washington State and Oregon, and let them create their own country. We can wall it off and allow them to thrive or fail on their own.

They always say "communism was never done right" so we'll give them that chance.

We'll let anyone who wants to move there do so, but they must renounce their US citizenship. We'll even help transport anyone who wants to move their, along with their belongings. Similarly we'll have a train line from El Paso right to their new country to transport all the people from south America who want freedom in this new land of Unwashedistan.

If people want out before the states become a new country we can work on finding them a new place too.

Overall i think the money spent would far outweigh what is lost from keeping them here.

Posted by: Rbastid at May 25, 2023 05:00 PM (GwPIh)

164 I know we already have the DeSantis/Trump debate, but I didn't get to ask this question: Who, other than Trump, causes RINO's to remove their own mask and commit career suicide?
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The candidate that really sticks it to the RINOs and NeverTrump by going on Erick Erickson's show and chatting friendly with Trey Gowdy?

Trump has a lot of those fleas in him too.

So ....

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 25, 2023 05:00 PM (Vhzin)

165 Even if the assertion is true, they weren't at the Capitol engaging in insurrection. "You have friends who would have been willing to take up arms had they been there" isn't exactly a watertight position.
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These people are amateurs. That's not how you take over a country.

Posted by: John Brennan, CIA Chief and Commie at May 25, 2023 05:00 PM (fs1hN)

166 Trump had more votes in his second election than his first.
The Democrats Propaganda Ministry pounds on Trump and their echo chamber is what you hear constantly.

Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2023 05:00 PM (EhpTo)

167 About M19, the bombers of the Capitol in 1983:"Over the course of a 20-month span in 1983 and 1984, M19 also bombed an FBI office, the Israel Aircraft Industries building, and the South African consulate in New York, D.C.’s Fort McNair and Navy Yard (which they hit twice.)"

this is what Wiki says about the 1983 Capitol bombers' sentences:
Susan Rosenberg:"as convicted in March 1985 by a federal jury in New Jersey and given a 58-year-sentence. Supporters said this was sixteen times the national average for such offenses.[17] Her lawyers contended that, had the case not been politically charged, Rosenberg would have received a five-year sentence" emphasis mine

Alan Berkman: "who served eight years of a 10-year sentence, became a professor at Columbia’s School of Public Health"

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 25, 2023 05:01 PM (ynpvh)

168 Also, putting someone "charismatic" in prison is usually a bad idea.
Posted by: Synova at May 25, 2023 04:55 PM (BD/yx)

we can't let him near a beer hall...

Posted by: SturmToddler at May 25, 2023 05:01 PM (Mkvkw)

169 Which is an absurd law. I honestly don't know how SCOTUS hasn't nuked it.

it's a tax!
Posted by: chief justice roberts at May 25, 2023 04:59 PM (oY6Yp)
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Completely unrelated, but who was "John Roberts" on the Epstein flight logs?

Posted by: Enquiring Minds want to know at May 25, 2023 05:01 PM (NmlmT)

170 113 I don't want national divorce. I don't want them in another country. I want them six feet below ours.
Posted by: Ken at May 25, 2023 04:52 PM (7PDge)

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A national divorce is impossible anyway. The left never leaves anyone alone. If conservatives form their own state, they'd infiltrate it and subvert it. They'll target your children and every successive generation. The only chance anyone has is to keep them at arms length and disrupt them.

Posted by: Brisco County Sr at May 25, 2023 05:01 PM (Y0InX)

171 Two Americas. Prepare accordingly.

Posted by: Nobody is going to save us but us at May 25, 2023 05:01 PM (SIX3A)

172 *Elia Kazan

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, GotG vol 3 review at May 25, 2023 05:02 PM (xcxpd)

173 Posted by: bonhomme at May 25, 2023 04:58 PM (R38qh)

Thanks . You’re Google fu was greater than mine.

This time 😃

Posted by: polynikes at May 25, 2023 05:02 PM (MNhXM)

174 "Which is an absurd law. I honestly don't know how SCOTUS hasn't nuked it."

yeah, idk what it takes to appeal many of these cases to higher courts, but it seems a blanket statement on such a charge from SCOTUS would be useful.

Of course Garland/Wray can arrange for BLM/Antifa on a SCOTUS judge's front lawn in a heartbeat.

Posted by: illiniwek at May 25, 2023 05:03 PM (Cus5s)

175
So Stuart Rhodes got sentenced to 18 years for doing the exact same thing Ray Epps did.

Posted by: Steven Fletcher at May 25, 2023 04:57 PM


I have a slight suspicion that Stuart has a higher life expectancy than Ray Epps. Not from someone on the right side taking out Epps, but from the people who actually know what went down on J6 and find Epps 'problematic'.

I think Epps knows it too.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 25, 2023 05:03 PM (enJYY)

176 "Their networks committed suicide by backing these insane people. The masks came off, here the networks and their reputations paid the price."

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Fox is in trouble because of Tucker.

CNN/MSNBC were always garbage.

I guess you could say Liz Cheney, and the outcome is favorable as the woman who replaced her is more conservative.

Posted by: Jay in PA at May 25, 2023 05:03 PM (i7Q7S)

177 14 Keep weaponizing the justice system, assholes. What goes around comes around.
Posted by: Veritas at May 25, 2023 04:34 PM (udhia)

Don't be foolish. Of course it doesn't.

Posted by: Karma is a stupid woobie to which the weak-minded cling at May 25, 2023 05:03 PM (SIX3A)

178 There is a reason that blaster acres is in Florida and an hour away from the nearest interstate.

Posted by: blaster at May 25, 2023 05:03 PM (pwExq)

179 The true test between Trump and DeSanits:

Which would win a trivia contest on Ziegfeld Follies Girls?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, on just the weirdest trip with John Boorman at May 25, 2023 05:03 PM (LvTSG)

180 A Banana-in-the-Tailpipe Republic, if you can keep it.

Posted by: ShainS -- Oppression Scientist at May 25, 2023 05:05 PM (Npncq)

181
168 Also, putting someone "charismatic" in prison is usually a bad idea.
Posted by: Synova at May 25, 2023 04:55 PM (BD/yx)

we can't let him near a beer hall...
Posted by: SturmToddler at May 25, 2023 05:01 PM (Mkvkw)

Putsch yourself in his shoes for just a minute.

Posted by: Is this mein? at May 25, 2023 05:05 PM (SIX3A)

182 135 This is why I can't support Ron.
I want the entire DC Uniparty outraged, driven insane. Evil destroys evil. There are no good guys in DC. No, not a one.

Some think there is work that can still be done in DC. Yes, forging another chain the left will use to bind us. Indeed, every day pretending they are a legitimate government is just another link.

I don't want anything done-- the left will follow no new law, their agents cells in the bureaucracy will follow no new rule, their judges will ensure any act of a Republican president and Congress is a nullity, their patrons in the media, tech and academia will prevent any punishment or firings.

You can whistle past the graveyard of America, pretend there's a magical path to "government that works."
I choose the path that hastens the destruction of the whole corrupt, crumbling, totalitarian state.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 25, 2023 04:56 PM (Vhzin)

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Perfectly stated.

If DeSantis is good for the uniparty, he's not the guy.

I can't explain why Trump is so effective at driving them insane, but whatever the reason, we need it to continue.

Posted by: Brisco County Sr at May 25, 2023 05:06 PM (Y0InX)

183 Which would win a trivia contest on Ziegfeld Follies Girls?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, on just the weirdest trip with John Boorman at May 25, 2023 05:03 PM (LvTSG)
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MP4. Next question.

Posted by: bluebell - NoVaMoMe registration ends 5/31! at May 25, 2023 05:06 PM (pTb/Z)

184 179 The true test between Trump and DeSanits:

Which would win a trivia contest on Ziegfeld Follies Girls?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, on just the weirdest trip with John Boorman at May 25, 2023 05:03 PM (LvTSG)

Contest is worthless without pictures.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, GotG vol 3 review at May 25, 2023 05:06 PM (xcxpd)

185 Did you guys see the other case out of SCOTUS today? The one where a MN county seized a 94 year old's property to pay off a $15,000 debt. Only thing was, they sold the property for $40,000 and kept the $25,000.

They had to go all the way to SCOTUS to be told, "No, fuckers. You can't keep $25,000 that isn't yours just because you want to."

Posted by: bonhomme at May 25, 2023 05:06 PM (R38qh)

186 While murderers go free on no bail.

Posted by: ShainS -- Oppression Scientist at May 25, 2023 05:06 PM (Npncq)

187 183 Which would win a trivia contest on Ziegfeld Follies Girls?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, on just the weirdest trip with John Boorman at May 25, 2023 05:03 PM (LvTSG)
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MP4. Next question.
Posted by: bluebell - NoVaMoMe registration ends 5/31! at May 25, 2023 05:06 PM (pTb/Z)

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MP4 for president!

It's the only logical choice.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, on just the weirdest trip with John Boorman at May 25, 2023 05:06 PM (LvTSG)

188 Mask ripping of the RINOs would make the a good name for a book or something.

But I am not sure what the real value is? I guess we got people inside the tent pissing out moved to outside pissing in. So that's something.

I am not saying that I wish we still had Bill Kristol on our side. Just I am not sure that's a superpower with a lot of value.

Posted by: blaster at May 25, 2023 05:07 PM (pwExq)

189 184 Contest is worthless without pictures.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, GotG vol 3 review at May 25, 2023 05:06 PM (xcxpd)

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Which is why the judge will be carefully chosen.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, on just the weirdest trip with John Boorman at May 25, 2023 05:07 PM (LvTSG)

190 They're sending a message, and making sure it's clear enough for everyone to thoroughly understand it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix

Those of us on this smart military blog understand that message. I am 100 % certain those sending that message won't ever understand why the pushback they have earned will be so violent when it eventally happens.

Hope they see the light and stop this before it does go squishy and wet. Don't think they will. Even middle of the road normies are waking up and are getting angry. Civil War Part Deaux is gonna be skeery.

Posted by: BifBewalski at May 25, 2023 05:07 PM (3CCua)

191 > Thanks . Your Google fu was greater than mine.

Happy to help.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 25, 2023 05:07 PM (R38qh)

192 14 Keep weaponizing the justice system, assholes. What goes around comes around.
Posted by: Veritas at May 25, 2023 04:34 PM (udhia)

Don't be foolish. Of course it doesn't. (Karma is stupid)

+++++++++++++++++++++

Actually, it does come back around. Just not in the form of conservatism/traditional liberalism/etc. No one will like what it looks like when it does come back. I sure as hell won't like it - if I am still alive - but I also won't shed one tear for the leftists that get the first taste of what they really cooked up.

Posted by: Bamanarama at May 25, 2023 05:08 PM (uH1aC)

193 The whole topic of J6 political prisoners just depresses me. I guess the 1st amendment no longer exists if the view you’re espousing is not the party line. Political prisoners in the US…. Never had that on my bingo card.

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 25, 2023 05:08 PM (xT8gx)

194 192 Actually, it does come back around. Just not in the form of conservatism/traditional liberalism/etc. No one will like what it looks like when it does come back. I sure as hell won't like it - if I am still alive - but I also won't shed one tear for the leftists that get the first taste of what they really cooked up.
Posted by: Bamanarama at May 25, 2023 05:08 PM (uH1aC)

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Thomas More had something to say about this.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, on just the weirdest trip with John Boorman at May 25, 2023 05:08 PM (LvTSG)

195 Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 25, 2023 05:03 PM (enJYY)

I think he has a ( brain freeze on the term) to be triggered if he should die mysteriously.

That’s why I actually do think Epstein did killed himself.

Posted by: polynikes at May 25, 2023 05:09 PM (MNhXM)

196 Why should anyone care about the Hutaree now? Because one of those serious charges was seditious conspiracy under 18 U.S.C. § 2384. It was the last time the Justice Department would use the statute until the present day. And the fate of the Hutaree may offer some insight into why. The judge in the case threw out the seditious conspiracy charges, along with the other more serious charges on the docket. And in the end, three Hutaree members pleaded guilty to standard-fare federal weapons charges.
https://tinyurl.com/2p8pv93j

Posted by: Crom Laughs at May 25, 2023 05:09 PM (GNPj+)

197 Did you guys see the other case out of SCOTUS today? The one where a MN county seized a 94 year old's property to pay off a $15,000 debt. Only thing was, they sold the property for $40,000 and kept the $25,000.

They had to go all the way to SCOTUS to be told, "No, fuckers. You can't keep $25,000 that isn't yours just because you want to."
Posted by: bonhomme at May 25, 2023 05:06 PM (R38qh)

I'm a bit suspicious of that sale price too. Even in MN, what parcel of land is only 40,000 dollars? A phone booth?

Posted by: Oldcat at May 25, 2023 05:09 PM (eoQWY)

198 These disparate treatment claims would be a very effective campaign tool for the GOP. Just compare and contrast how the DOJ, the courts, the IRS, the media, etc. treat conservatives vs. leftists, using specific (almost daily) examples. It would appeal to the basic sense of fairness that most people, even most non-insane Democrats, have. It would also inform of them what has been going on (they don't know).

Posted by: Anti-Faucist at May 25, 2023 05:09 PM (ik/65)

199 180 A Banana-in-the-Tailpipe Republic, if you can keep it.

Posted by: ShainS -- Oppression Scientist at May 25, 2023 05:05 PM (Npncq)

That ain't no banana the Gov't is shoving up our tailpipes...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 25, 2023 05:10 PM (ynpvh)

200 Can you imagine something like that? Politically-motivated people trespassing in political buildings?!

This is literally the go-to tactic of every leftwing group in America when a state legislature is attempting to pass a law they oppose.

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Not to mention conservative Supreme Court Justice nominee, another Congressional, hearings.

Posted by: ShainS -- Oppression Scientist at May 25, 2023 05:10 PM (Npncq)

201 Meanwhile Joe, Hunter and his grifting Family are walking free...

Posted by: It's me donna at May 25, 2023 05:10 PM (bs+z0)

202 Sidebar: "Forgotten 80s Mystery Click My oh my, that lady can fly! The best song on the Heavy Metal soundtrack. Fight me. I know it's not actually Heavy Metal but then none of the songs on the Heavy Metal soundtrack were heavy metal."

GTFO here. Black Sabbath: The Mob Rules.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at May 25, 2023 05:10 PM (ppBhU)

203
Also: If Epps begins to realize he's in a greater threat from the people who told him what he needed to do... he can either go to them for 'witness protection' and disappear or... be disappeared in the gullet of a turkey vulture.

The fact that he still pops up occasionally in the news seems to indicate he hasn't - or they haven't - made the decision yet.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 25, 2023 05:10 PM (enJYY)

204 Not being armed on-site and not trespassing seems to void whatever they talked about unless the conspiracy was "Hey, let's protest at the Capitol and not break any laws."

Posted by: Crom Laughs at May 25, 2023 05:11 PM (GNPj+)

205 I guess the takeaway from this is don't get arrested. If arrested, you will with certainty get convicted. When convicted, you will likely spend the rest or the best years of your life doing hard-time in a hellish gulag.

I'm not going out like that. Whatever happens, I want my conscience clear when I leave this world. No bending the knee for me.

Posted by: troyriser at May 25, 2023 05:11 PM (7Cx1V)

206 It's like swimming with the dolphins except . . .

https://tinyurl.com/2pnffkpz

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at May 25, 2023 05:11 PM (FVME7)

207 Also, putting someone "charismatic" in prison is usually a bad idea.
Posted by: Synova at May 25, 2023 04:55 PM (BD/yx)

we can't let him near a beer hall...
Posted by: SturmToddler at May 25, 2023 05:01 PM (Mkvkw

Again he only got 5 years. I think he only served 8 months. Now the early release was a big mistake.

Posted by: polynikes at May 25, 2023 05:11 PM (MNhXM)

208 168 Also, putting someone "charismatic" in prison is usually a bad idea.
Posted by: Synova at May 25, 2023 04:55 PM (BD/yx)

we can't let him near a beer hall...
Posted by: SturmToddler at May 25, 2023 05:01 PM (Mkvkw)

Putsch yourself in his shoes for just a minute.
Posted by: Is this mein?


Hearing what he could do is Munich to my ears

Posted by: Reuben Hick at May 25, 2023 05:12 PM (YXHzG)

209
U.S. District Court Judge Amit Mehta was born in India.

I'm not sure. I have to think this one over. But, right now, I tend to feel that those who interpret Our Laws need to be natural born citizens who are also raised here. Otherwise, we may get some wacky rulings like this one totally out of the natural flow and understanding of American law.

We require the Prez to be a natural born citizen, i see no reason why that same minimum requirement shouldn't be applied to judges as well.


Posted by: naturalfake at May 25, 2023 05:12 PM (RJQ8g)

210 185 Did you guys see the other case out of SCOTUS today? The one where a MN county seized a 94 year old's property to pay off a $15,000 debt. Only thing was, they sold the property for $40,000 and kept the $25,000.

They had to go all the way to SCOTUS to be told, "No, fuckers. You can't keep $25,000 that isn't yours just because you want to."

Posted by: bonhomme at May 25, 2023 05:06 PM (R38qh)

Yup. Other than signing a Deed in Lieu, if a property is sold in foreclosure (at least in Kali), the lienholder only gets back at most the value of the lien and expenses, after the government gets their monies for any back taxes and fees; the rest goes to the previous owner.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 25, 2023 05:12 PM (ynpvh)

211 There is iron in naturalflake's words.

Posted by: Eromero at May 25, 2023 05:13 PM (z3WCn)

212 Did the guy go off on the judge after that sentence?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 25, 2023 05:14 PM (Angsy)

213 AOC wants to know when was the last time anybody complained about gov’t doing too much for people

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I guess she don't get out much.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at May 25, 2023 05:14 PM (FVME7)

214 I think Congress has the power to "constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court."

Accordingly, it should be able to shutter these kangaroo courts.

Posted by: mr tmz at May 25, 2023 05:15 PM (rJ48h)

215 204 Not being armed on-site and not trespassing seems to void whatever they talked about unless the conspiracy was "Hey, let's protest at the Capitol and not break any laws."
Posted by: Crom Laughs at May 25, 2023 05:11 PM (GNPj+)

They are sentencing him for the crime of TALKING about doing something, but not doing it.

Conspiracy. It's like a thought crime... and criminalizes speech, which is supposed to be free.

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 25, 2023 05:15 PM (oHd/0)

216 Ray Epps is totally being protected by the Feds and the Democrats Propaganda Ministry

Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2023 05:15 PM (EhpTo)

217 Durham actually documents a real seditious conspiracy and no one is going to see a day of jail.

Posted by: polynikes at May 25, 2023 05:15 PM (MNhXM)

218
Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 25, 2023 05:03 PM (enJYY)

I think he has a ( brain freeze on the term) to be triggered if he should die mysteriously.

Posted by: polynikes at May 25, 2023 05:09 PM


Maybe the term is 'poison pill' - but I'm not sure. The people who put him up to his hi-jinx on J6 have to be certain he hasn't left some 'smoking gun' evidence around when the turkey vultures fly off with his guts in some desert environs.

Could be a problem for them.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 25, 2023 05:15 PM (enJYY)

219 @197

>>I'm a bit suspicious of that sale price too. Even in MN, what parcel of land is only 40,000 dollars? A phone booth?

The property was more than likely sold at auction and typically these things go to well connected people, who will kick back a couple of bucks.

Having said that, I know people who were able to buy properties for a single thin buck in Detroit.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 25, 2023 05:15 PM (up/3i)

220 Everything that is happening right now, from the J6ers political imprisonment to parents being investigated for pushing back at PTA meetings to tranny beer is all part of the same color revolution. They are coming after all of us no matter if we protest or do nothing at all. They are attempting to change our society and people like us are not welcome in Newmerica.

This is how color revolutions work.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 25, 2023 05:15 PM (ZLI7S)

221 >>>GTFO here. Black Sabbath: The Mob Rules.

oh, I thought I remembered Black Sabbath had a song on the album, but then didn't see it.

Posted by: ace at May 25, 2023 05:15 PM (KRtlO)

222 I'm sure this Rhodes guy thought he would get a fair shake. Just like the rest of them languishing in the DC prison.
Let this be a lesson to us.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at May 25, 2023 05:16 PM (MeG8a)

223 U.S. District Court Judge Amit Mehta was born in India.

We require the Prez to be a natural born citizen, i see no reason why that same minimum requirement shouldn't be applied to judges as well.

Posted by: naturalfake

The judge's parents were not inculcating young Amit with U.S. sentiments and views of the US Republic.
Dot Indians have really warped views of democracy... probably carried over from the British background which we tossed off.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 25, 2023 05:16 PM (fZmG/)

224 We require the Prez to be a natural born citizen, i see no reason why that same minimum requirement shouldn't be applied to judges as well.


Posted by: naturalfake at May 25, 2023 05:12 PM (RJQ8g)

Being ruled by foreigners and perverts is a punishment from above.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 25, 2023 05:16 PM (Angsy)

225 The Heavy Metal soundtrack is solid. Journey sticks out but it fits in the scene it is used in.

Also, quality boobs.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, GotG vol 3 review at May 25, 2023 05:16 PM (xcxpd)

226 Peer-reviewed study says left-wing extremism is linked to "high narcissistic and psychopathic traits," where people use activism to "satisfy their own ego-focused needs"

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Who'd athunk it?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at May 25, 2023 05:17 PM (FVME7)

227 Leave the Capitol, take the Cappicola

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at May 25, 2023 05:17 PM (S+j2h)

228 "You are smart, you are compelling, and you are charismatic. Frankly, that is what makes you dangerous."

Judge Mehta, what threatens you is that you are a political hack whose only sense of justice and power in this world stems from your black robe and political connections.

Posted by: Cheri at May 25, 2023 05:17 PM (oiNtH)

229 A guy in our company getting Naturalized today is similar to Amit in his political disposition and is looking forward to voting for jackbooted tyranny.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at May 25, 2023 04:44 PM (YXHzG)

Maybe he needs a little "talking to" where there are no cameras.

Posted by: Vinnie The Chin at May 25, 2023 05:18 PM (Zvtjl)

230 Canadian high school hands out "safer snorting kits" to kids

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Well, how about safer syringes?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at May 25, 2023 05:18 PM (FVME7)

231 DC is gone. Look to the states.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 25, 2023 05:18 PM (u73oe)

232 @225

>>The Heavy Metal soundtrack is solid. Journey sticks out but it fits in the scene it is used in.

The standout song on the album is Veteran of The Psychic Wars by BOC, which may be the greatest song of all time and space.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 25, 2023 05:18 PM (up/3i)

233 When I'm against you, Ace, I will state so.

But on this topic, regardless of who you support, I'm with you 100%!

This is where I also have trouble understanding the Republican Party. Why aren't they out there making this case everyday and everyway, on all the networks and any platform they can get on? And why doesn't McCarthy stand up and speak out? Ditto McConnell (may that bastard rot) and all the Chamber of Commerce cucks that make up 92.99% of Republican office holders?

Guess compliance with the "order" gets you all the big corporate cuck bucks.

Maybe burning down the Republican Party IS what we need to do, or just leave them for good and form a party that puts FREEDOM first. We sure aren't getting it with this crop!

Posted by: Tracy at May 25, 2023 05:18 PM (3ep4x)

234 Peer-reviewed study says left-wing extremism is linked to "high narcissistic and psychopathic traits," where people use activism to "satisfy their own ego-focused needs"

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Who'd athunk it?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at May 25, 2023 05:17 PM (FVME7)

Psychopaths. All of them.

Posted by: polynikes at May 25, 2023 05:18 PM (MNhXM)

235 Just another reason to abolish the federales.

Don’t say it too loud.

Might get ya in the joint for 20 years.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 25, 2023 05:18 PM (R/m4+)

236 This is really so awful. I worry about the atmosphere, it's very reminiscent of ruby ridge, Waco and then Oklahoma bombing. I pray and pray that it doesn't end like that did. I fear they are planning something big or trying to push someone crazy over the edge.

Posted by: spypeach at May 25, 2023 05:18 PM (UuB/1)

237 "I guess the takeaway from this is don't get arrested. If arrested, you will with certainty get convicted. When convicted, you will likely spend the rest or the best years of your life doing hard-time in a hellish gulag."

My first thought when Daniel Penny was identified was that he should just "disappear." No way he gets a fair trial with a corrupt prosecutor, a corrupt judge, and a corrupt jury (probably) in NYC. Shave your head, move to militia country in the far west, whatever -- anything is better than prison, with a media-manufactured target on your back to boot.

Posted by: Anti-Faucist at May 25, 2023 05:19 PM (ik/65)

238 It used to be said that the State had the monopoly on the legitimate use of violence.
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The scum that work for government have certainly promoted that idea.

The entire point of the Second Amendment is that it's wrong.

Posted by: Methos at May 25, 2023 05:19 PM (kOpft)

239 If metal lyrics break out in this thread, bad things could happen.

Posted by: blaster at May 25, 2023 05:19 PM (pwExq)

240 Now it's the State and their protected, promoted Street Militias in antifa and BLM.

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The fact that the FBI never infiltrated these domestic terrorist groups tells me that they are in fact state-sponsored brown-shirt shock-troops.

Posted by: ShainS -- Oppression Scientist at May 25, 2023 05:19 PM (Npncq)

241 Posted by: Tracy at May 25, 2023 05:18 PM (3ep4x)

Miss Lindsay creamed his pants when he heard the verdict. They all approve.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 25, 2023 05:19 PM (Angsy)

242 TURN THOSE MACHINES BACK ON!~~

@tomselliott 11m
"Horrible news, horrible for Joe Biden": New CNN poll finds 66% of Americans say a Biden victory would either be a "setback" or a "disaster"

Posted by: weft cut loop at May 25, 2023 05:20 PM (jzzG8)

243 The standout song on the album is Veteran of The Psychic Wars by BOC, which may be the greatest song of all time and space.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 25, 2023 05:18 PM (up/3i)

BOC is underrated. Killer guitar rock.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, GotG vol 3 review at May 25, 2023 05:20 PM (xcxpd)

244 @tomselliott 11m
"Horrible news, horrible for Joe Biden": New CNN poll finds 66% of Americans say a Biden victory would either be a "setback" or a "disaster"
Posted by: weft cut loop at May 25, 2023 05:20 PM (jzzG

But they'll still "vote" for him

Posted by: It's me donna at May 25, 2023 05:20 PM (bs+z0)

245 If you haven't read The Gulag Archipelago, it's a good read probably even in the condensed version.

Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2023 05:20 PM (xhxe8)

246 242 TURN THOSE MACHINES BACK ON!~~

@tomselliott 11m
"Horrible news, horrible for Joe Biden": New CNN poll finds 66% of Americans say a Biden victory would either be a "setback" or a "disaster"
Posted by: weft cut loop at May 25, 2023 05:20 PM (jzzG

========

It's too bad Americans no longer have a say in who becomes the nation's president.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, on just the weirdest trip with John Boorman at May 25, 2023 05:20 PM (LvTSG)

247 206 It's like swimming with the dolphins except . . .

https://tinyurl.com/2pnffkpz
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at May 25, 2023 05:11 PM (FVME7)
———-

That’s a pretty famous beach in Bahamas, called Pig Beach. It’s real thing. A friend was there a few weeks ago and posted pics.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 25, 2023 05:21 PM (PHtP3)

248 One hundred percent correct. This country will break up or become a totalitarian dungeon.

Any approach that doesn't proceed from that basic assumption is doomed.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 25, 2023 04:47 PM (oINRc)

————-

Dissolution is the only answer.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at May 25, 2023 05:21 PM (VpRzs)

249 It's too bad Americans no longer have a say in who becomes the nation's president.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, on just the weirdest trip with John Boorman at May 25, 2023 05:20 PM (LvTSG)


It's those dang servers in Germany!

Posted by: blaster at May 25, 2023 05:21 PM (pwExq)

250 Teachers’ Union Told LA Dodgers Students Could Die If Anti-Catholic Group Wasn’t Re-Invited To Pride Night

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So teachers are like heroes?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at May 25, 2023 05:21 PM (FVME7)

251 If metal lyrics break out in this thread, bad things could happen.

Posted by: blaster at May 25, 2023 05:19 PM (pwExq)

---------

Sponge likely hardest hit.

Posted by: ShainS -- Oppression Scientist at May 25, 2023 05:22 PM (Npncq)

252 Like Porter Wagoner sang…

'Cause if I gotta go I'll go down swinging
Where there's lights and laughter booze and blonds and a lot of sad sad singing
I'll sober up tomorrow and cry all day I know
At least I'll go down swinging what a swinging way to go…

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 25, 2023 05:23 PM (R/m4+)

253
@tomselliott 11m
"Horrible news, horrible for Joe Biden": New CNN poll finds 66% of Americans say a Biden victory would either be a "setback" or a "disaster"
Posted by: weft cut loop at May 25, 2023 05:20 PM (jzzG

But they'll still "vote" for him

Posted by: It's me donna at May 25, 2023 05:20 PM


It depends on your definition of 'vote'.

Posted by: Dominion Software at May 25, 2023 05:23 PM (enJYY)

254 Posted by: Anti-Faucist at May 25, 2023 05:19 PM (ik/65)

He’s a city boy. I don’t think it ever crossed his mind to live or move anywhere but to a big city. I hope his attorneys can pick the right jury.

Posted by: polynikes at May 25, 2023 05:23 PM (MNhXM)

255 180 A Banana-in-the-Tailpipe Republic, if you can keep it.
Posted by: ShainS -- Oppression Scientist at May 25, 2023 05:05 PM

I'll take it! I'll take it! And I can keep it stuffed in my hole all night!

Posted by: Dylan Mulvaney at May 25, 2023 05:23 PM (NCgXW)

256 @243

>>BOC is underrated. Killer guitar rock.

One of the best and loudest concerts I ever went to was BOC and Zebra at Radio City Music Hall in 86.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 25, 2023 05:23 PM (up/3i)

257 Sponge likely hardest hit.
Posted by: ShainS

Depends on the lyrics doesn't it?

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 25, 2023 05:23 PM (fZmG/)

258 The gaslighting is part of the kink.

The point of the double standard is making sure we know who's in charge.

Posted by: blaster at May 25, 2023 05:23 PM (pwExq)

259 So remember before I asked for prayers for the daughter of a coworker who is getting top surgery? Today the coworker proudly mentioned that "both my sons are trans"
Apart from prayers, I don't really know what to do.
Everyone else at work seems to support this.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at May 25, 2023 05:23 PM (vHIgi)

260 The whole topic of J6 political prisoners just depresses me. I guess the 1st amendment no longer exists if the view you’re espousing is not the party line. Political prisoners in the US…. Never had that on my bingo card.

Same here. I need to learn to shut my piehole on this topic. I'm too old to spend time in a fed pen for simply voicing my opinion. Hella country we got here, eh?

Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 25, 2023 05:24 PM (Xrfse)

261 Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 25, 2023 05:18 PM (up/3i)

Oh not even... Queen Bee by GFR and Heavy Metal by Sammy Hagar are the coequal best tracks.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 25, 2023 05:24 PM (YRsIm)

262 It's like swimming with the dolphins except . . .

https://tinyurl.com/2pnffkpz
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at May 25, 2023 05:11 PM (FVME7)


...there a 35% less chance of getting raped.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 25, 2023 05:24 PM (RJQ8g)

263 Time for some Floyd Ferris:

You'd better get it straight that it's not a bunch of boy scouts you're up against... We're after power and we mean it.

Posted by: blaster at May 25, 2023 05:25 PM (pwExq)

264 Being ruled by foreigners and perverts is a punishment from above.

Someone has been reading their Deuteronomy 28:43-53

"Foreigners who live in your land will gain more and more power, while you gradually lose yours... In the end they will be your rulers...The Lord will bring against you a nation from the ends of the earth, a nation whose language you do not know... They will be ruthless and show no mercy to anyone, young or old... All these disasters will come on you, and they will be with you until you are destroyed... They will be the evidence of God's judgment on you and your descendants forever."

Posted by: Reuben Hick at May 25, 2023 05:25 PM (YXHzG)

265 Apart from prayers, I don't really know what to do.
Everyone else at work seems to support this.
Posted by: vmom

Without being seen put a condolence card on the desk, inside say "I'm sorry for your loss and for the grandchildren you'll never enjoy".

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 25, 2023 05:26 PM (fZmG/)

266 So remember before I asked for prayers for the daughter of a coworker who is getting top surgery? Today the coworker proudly mentioned that "both my sons are trans"
Apart from prayers, I don't really know what to do.
Everyone else at work seems to support this.


Sorry to say that that didn't even come close to making my prayer list. Oh, well.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 25, 2023 05:26 PM (Xrfse)

267 Today the coworker proudly mentioned that "both my sons are trans"
....
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at May 25, 2023 05:23 PM (vHIgi)


She sounds nice.

Posted by: blaster at May 25, 2023 05:27 PM (pwExq)

268 One of the best parts of being ruled by woke NAZIs is that they'll tell you how terrible gun ownership is...until they shoot you with their own for talking to them.

Posted by: Jeb Bush at May 25, 2023 05:27 PM (lc5cP)

269 The Dem's a really upset about SCOTUS EPA slap down. Although a 9-0 decision, the WaPo made insinuations that it was a 5-4 ideological ruling.

Posted by: WisRich at May 25, 2023 05:27 PM (G0vdT)

270 All part of the plan.

@theMRC

🚨BREAKING MRC REPORT🚨 Biden’s DHS uses your tax dollars to weaponize against Christians, conservatives, and the GOP

Posted by: JackStraw at May 25, 2023 05:27 PM (ZLI7S)

271 They took up arms by launching an unarmed insurrection I guess

Posted by: steevy at May 25, 2023 05:27 PM (yezA1)

272 @206

>>Oh not even... Queen Bee by GFR and Heavy Metal by Sammy Hagar are the coequal best tracks.

Those are good for sure but the BOC song fits the particular vignette perfectly.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 25, 2023 05:27 PM (up/3i)

273 Today the coworker proudly mentioned that "both my sons are trans"

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Bless their hearts.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at May 25, 2023 05:27 PM (FVME7)

274 Another difference between conservatives and liberals. Conservatives will stand with anyone in regard to miscarriage of justice. Liberals welcome the miscarriage against their enemies.

Posted by: polynikes at May 25, 2023 05:27 PM (MNhXM)

275 Teachers’ Union Told LA Dodgers Students Could Die If Anti-Catholic Group Wasn’t Re-Invited To Pride Night

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So teachers are like heroes?


Pimps

Posted by: Reuben Hick at May 25, 2023 05:27 PM (YXHzG)

276 Today the coworker proudly mentioned that "both my sons are trans"
....


Good riddance

Posted by: The gene pool at May 25, 2023 05:27 PM (lc5cP)

277 I agree that the Heavy Metal soundtrack is not metal (except Sabbath). But there are a lot of really good tracks. Cheap Trick's I Must Be Crazy is friggin' killer. As is Reach Out.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gen X Ne'er-Do-Well at May 25, 2023 05:27 PM (xPJvm)

278 The whole quote is better:

"Did you really think we want those laws observed?" said Dr. Ferris. "We want them to be broken. You'd better get it straight that it's not a bunch of boy scouts you're up against... We're after power and we mean it... There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What's there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced or objectively interpreted -- and you create a nation of law-breakers -- and then you cash in on guilt. Now that's the system, Mr. Reardon, that's the game, and once you understand it, you'll be much easier to deal with."

Posted by: blaster at May 25, 2023 05:28 PM (pwExq)

279 Did you guys see the other case out of SCOTUS today? The one where a MN county seized a 94 year old's property to pay off a $15,000 debt. Only thing was, they sold the property for $40,000 and kept the $25,000.

They had to go all the way to SCOTUS to be told, "No, fuckers. You can't keep $25,000 that isn't yours just because you want to."

Posted by: bonhomme
_______________

There was a case a few years ago where cops stole valuable coins worth a lot, like a quarter million, during an otherwise valid search. The subject of the search sued them individually but the court held that the cops had qualified immunity since there was no clearly established law saying cops can't steal while carrying out a search.

I think that got upheld on appeal by the Ninth (surprise) Circuit.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at May 25, 2023 05:28 PM (X+Odc)

280 @tomselliott 11m
"Horrible news, horrible for Joe Biden": New CNN poll finds 66% of Americans say a Biden victory would either be a "setback" or a "disaster"
Posted by: weft cut loop at May 25, 2023 05:20 PM (jzzG

Does Joe know this?

Posted by: That Northern skulker at May 25, 2023 05:29 PM (ZL+xF)

281
Oh, so this is the *types, deletes* thread...

Because I'm *TDing* my ass off.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 25, 2023 05:29 PM (n+4am)

282 Today the coworker proudly mentioned that "both my sons are trans"


Welp, I admit...I didn't see this one coming.

Same rules apply though.

Posted by: Darwin at May 25, 2023 05:29 PM (RJQ8g)

283 Best actual metal sound track?

The One?
Spawn?
The Crow?

Posted by: 18-1 at May 25, 2023 05:29 PM (lc5cP)

284 So remember before I asked for prayers for the daughter of a coworker who is getting top surgery? Today the coworker proudly mentioned that "both my sons are trans"
Apart from prayers, I don't really know what to do.
Everyone else at work seems to support this.
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at May 25, 2023 05:23 PM (vHIgi)

I'm very sorry for the girls that you were the only person around who cared for their future. That said I don't think there's any hope for change by making yourself a target to these sort of people.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 25, 2023 05:30 PM (eoQWY)

285 🚨BREAKING MRC REPORT🚨 Biden’s DHS uses your tax dollars to weaponize against Christians, conservatives, and the GOP

Um, no sh*t, Sherlock? I think somebody’s twitter feed must have a 2 year message latency.

Posted by: Oddbob at May 25, 2023 05:30 PM (nfrXX)

286 What is "top surgery"? I'm not sure I should have asked.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 25, 2023 05:30 PM (Xrfse)

287 I'm very sorry for the girls that you were the only person around who cared for their future. That said I don't think there's any hope for change by making yourself a target to these sort of people.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 25, 2023 05:30 PM (eoQWY)

Vmom just needs to shake the dust from her feet and have only work related contact with them from now on.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 25, 2023 05:31 PM (Angsy)

288 259 So remember before I asked for prayers for the daughter of a coworker who is getting top surgery? Today the coworker proudly mentioned that "both my sons are trans"
Apart from prayers, I don't really know what to do.
Everyone else at work seems to support this.
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at May 25, 2023 05:23 PM (vHIgi

———-
Stay as far far away from that coworker as possible. Wipe off any surfaces she (I assume it’s a she) touches if you are going to be in the same room. There are some seriously fucked up cooties in that household. You don’t want to catch them.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 25, 2023 05:31 PM (PHtP3)

289 Another difference between conservatives and liberals. Conservatives will stand with anyone in regard to miscarriage of justice. Liberals welcome the miscarriage against their enemies.

Posted by: polynikes at May 25, 2023 05:27 PM (MNhXM)

And with time, their former friends become the enemies. There always must be enemies.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 25, 2023 05:31 PM (eoQWY)

290 286 tit removal

Posted by: steevy at May 25, 2023 05:31 PM (yezA1)

291 What is "top surgery"? I'm not sure I should have asked.

A safe effective surgery to help one become your gender identify

Posted by: Dr Mengele at May 25, 2023 05:31 PM (lc5cP)

292 @283

>>Best actual metal sound track?The One?Spawn?
The Crow?

The Crow soundtrack is the standout from that list.

Golgatha Tenment Blues is badass.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 25, 2023 05:31 PM (up/3i)

293
People can do what they think best, but reading today how 'Judicial Watch' went after about 800,000 peeps on the PA voter rolls that they had a suspicion were bogus... and didn't quite score that number but got acceptance of about 200,000 in three PA counties...and were rewarded costs of about $15,000... It seems to me a lot of 'Bang for the Buck' to support them if election integrity is your big issue.

'Do your homework' as I used to say every day. I'm gonna write them a fat check tomorrow.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 25, 2023 05:32 PM (enJYY)

294 Trying to define what is and what is not 'Metal' is an amusing past time. But I'd rather just focus on what is good music and what is not.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, GotG vol 3 review at May 25, 2023 05:32 PM (xcxpd)

295 What is "top surgery"? I'm not sure I should have asked.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 25, 2023 05:30 PM (Xrfse)

Mutilation of the breasts without much care to how it looks afterward.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 25, 2023 05:32 PM (eoQWY)

296 Stay as far far away from that coworker as possible. Wipe off any surfaces she (I assume it’s a she) touches if you are going to be in the same room. There are some seriously fucked up cooties in that household. You don’t want to catch them.

Guarantee your co-workers boyfriend had sex with your co-worker's kids as minors.

That's why they don't want to be women anymore.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 25, 2023 05:32 PM (lc5cP)

297 At the moment Trump might have a better chance to win (if he is not in prison or in court for six months pre-election) ... but DeSantis might govern better. Will take an overwhelming victory due to the incredible Fraud Election Machine they have set up.
Posted by: illiniwek at May 25, 2023 04:58 PM (Cus5s)

Why do so many on our side continue to believe that either Trump or DeSantis will be" permitted" to win?? The Deep State will not allow that to happen and will do whatever it takes to prevent that.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at May 25, 2023 05:33 PM (Zvtjl)

298 >>Um, no sh*t, Sherlock? I think somebody’s twitter feed must have a 2 year message latency.

No, this is actually a brand new finding based on FOIA documents that show exactly how the Biden administration is funding universities to link Christians, conservatives, Republicans and other unclean types to Nazis, white supremacists and terrorists.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 25, 2023 05:33 PM (ZLI7S)

299 132 >>> can we go back to Lindsey Graham or nah?

I'm tired of guilt by association. Yes, a LOT of people prefer DeSantis over Trump, becuase they hate Trump. But you keep casting Trump's unpopularity...

DeSantis doesn't gall people the way Trump does and people gravitate towards someone they think they can beat Trump -- so that's a knock on DeSantis?...

Posted by: ace at May 25, 2023 04:55 PM (KRtlO)

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Ace, I missed your post about Graham. I'm sure Trump's not going to decline his endorsement, but I see a bigger problem in DeSantis himself saying he aspires to be a leader like Ryan. Disappointing, because I do appreciate what he did in FL.

I'm not casting Trump's unpopularity, but rather his inexplicable ability to cause RINO's to lose their shit and reveal who they are. Nikki Haley did it out of nowhere. W Bush compared his supporters to terrorists. All after Trump accumulated the most votes of any incumbent in history. No one else can achieve both those goals together, especially not DeSantis.

I see people are growing exhausted of the topic, so I won't hammer it much more today. Thanks for debating the point, we'll revisit when next appropriate.

Posted by: Brisco County Sr at May 25, 2023 05:33 PM (Y0InX)

300 Well, see y'all on the flip side. Thanks, ace.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 25, 2023 05:34 PM (Xrfse)

301 Shakespeare had it wrong...start with the judges.

Posted by: WhitePunk at May 25, 2023 05:34 PM (KILK5)

302 I just found out that a super typhoon, Mawar, hit Guam yesterday. 180+mph winds and massive flooding. Crickets in the media apparently.
But lets keep sending money to Ukraine.

Posted by: lin-duh at May 25, 2023 05:34 PM (UUBmN)

303 I would have told my co-worker

‘I see that you love them to death’

She would have to think about that for a minute.

Posted by: polynikes at May 25, 2023 05:34 PM (MNhXM)

304 Gonna get worse from here folks. Much MUCH worse. There will be concentration camps before long. The Republican Party will not save this country.

Posted by: No Shirt Shylock at May 25, 2023 05:34 PM (PWI4f)

305 I'm loyal to America, but I'm sure the hell not loyal to whatever this sh1thole we're living in is called.

Then you're loyal to a dead idea. Like being loyal to Latin or something. As I've told people for years, this country is just where I live.

Posted by: Right Wing Hate Machine at May 25, 2023 05:35 PM (4ixcl)

306 vmom I guess grandchildren are not in their future

Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2023 05:35 PM (xhxe8)

307 @294

>>Trying to define what is and what is not 'Metal' is an amusing past time. But I'd rather just focus on what is good music and what is not.

True, but that Cookie Monster Metal is, in my opinion, not Metal, it's something not quite metal, it's something else and don't even get me started on Djent.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 25, 2023 05:35 PM (up/3i)

308 Today the coworker proudly mentioned that "both my sons are trans"

That is a novel way to say "I don't want grandchildren".

Posted by: Reuben Hick at May 25, 2023 05:35 PM (YXHzG)

309 Neither will voting save the country.

Posted by: WhitePunk at May 25, 2023 05:35 PM (KILK5)

310 Has David French made his predictable response to The Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence?

Posted by: That Northern skulker at May 25, 2023 05:35 PM (ZL+xF)

311 Schumer threatening......

https://tinyurl.com/585hrv8f

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at May 25, 2023 05:35 PM (Zvtjl)

312 Then you're loyal to a dead idea. Like being loyal to Latin or something. As I've told people for years, this country is just where I live.

Heritage America would have declared war on Soviet America by now...if Soviet America hadn't killed Heritage America already

Posted by: 18-1 at May 25, 2023 05:35 PM (lc5cP)

313 He was born in India. Why does he dictate to America what is appropriate political protest?

This is what unfettered immigration has wrought.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 25, 2023 04:42 PM (ZCCyW)
___________________

Next up he'll ban beef.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 25, 2023 05:36 PM (YqDXo)

314 Neither will voting save the country.

Effective "voting" is either via Dominion or rooftops

Posted by: Reuben Hick at May 25, 2023 05:36 PM (YXHzG)

315 CISA has designated YOUR THOUGHTS part of the government’s infrastructure. They call it “cognitive infrastructure.”

They argue they can regulate what you think as they consider it under their purview.

Posted by: SMOD at May 25, 2023 05:36 PM (Ys60r)

316 >>Trying to define what is and what is not 'Metal' is an amusing past time. But I'd rather just focus on what is good music and what is not.

True, but that Cookie Monster Metal is, in my opinion, not Metal, it's something not quite metal, it's something else and don't even get me started on Djent.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 25, 2023 05:35 PM (up/3i)

Djent is a new one to me!

Where do you put the band 'Baby Metal'?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, GotG vol 3 review at May 25, 2023 05:36 PM (xcxpd)

317 Has David French made his predictable response to The Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence?

You mean "Oh yes yes yes yes yes yes!!!!!!! UHHHHHHH!"

Posted by: 18-1 at May 25, 2023 05:36 PM (lc5cP)

318 Teaser for Justified, City Primeval:

https://youtu.be/R0pJU13nKyM

Posted by: Sharkman at May 25, 2023 05:36 PM (uwFkA)

319 We sure get a lot of odd-nics seeming to declare there must be bloodshed in the US future.
It seems to intensify before elections for some unfathomable reason. /s

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 25, 2023 05:37 PM (fZmG/)

320 You and I can be loyal to America
The fkin Marxists aren't that's for sure

Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2023 05:37 PM (xhxe8)

321 Guarantee your co-workers boyfriend had sex with your co-worker's kids as minors.

That's why they don't want to be women anymore.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 25, 2023 05:32 PM (lc5cP)

Possibly, but I don't think that's the major cause. Plenty of people in the past were abused without this surgery resulting.

To me its just massive pressure by the parents and authority figures in these children's life selling this as a solution to all problems big and small.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 25, 2023 05:37 PM (eoQWY)

322 Underrated metal soundtrack? The Hidden.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 25, 2023 05:37 PM (PHtP3)

323 That is really evil stuff.

We are getting pushed into a fight or flight situation, and there isn't really a good place to fly to, so...

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 25, 2023 05:37 PM (ufFY8)

324
Trying to define what is and what is not 'Metal' is an amusing past time. But I'd rather just focus on what is good music and what is not.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards

This came up in my ewetoob feed again. I clear my history pretty regular like so i get Easter Eggs occasionally. This is one I recommended to Mis. Hum. for an ONT a while back. Good music.

https://youtu.be/iSwoM7WIy5M

Posted by: BifBewalski at May 25, 2023 05:37 PM (3CCua)

325 Has David French made his predictable response to The Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence?

Posted by: That Northern skulker at May 25, 2023 05:35 PM (ZL+xF)

I thought he was still in Ukraine, picking out a bull....

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 25, 2023 05:37 PM (Angsy)

326 Has David French made his predictable response to The Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence?

He is still sulking about them rejecting his application due to age.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at May 25, 2023 05:37 PM (YXHzG)

327 As I've told people for years, this country is just where I live.
Posted by: Right Wing Hate Machine at May 25, 2023 05:35 PM (4ixcl)
______________

So the Reds have achieved their desired result.

They too just consider America to be where they live, and where the money is good. That's it.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 25, 2023 05:37 PM (YqDXo)

328 Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 25, 2023 05:27 PM (up/3i)

Quite honestly, all the tunes on that sound track fit the vignettes really well. The fact that the girl in the one with Queen Bee is a ginger just makes it even more fitting. The last Terachyan walking into the bar is pretty good too.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 25, 2023 05:37 PM (YRsIm)

329 Nude Whistle-blower.

Posted by: Sharkman at May 25, 2023 05:38 PM (uwFkA)

330 "I'm loyal to America, but I'm sure the hell not loyal to whatever this sh1thole we're living in is called."

Head / Nail / Hit!

Posted by: Jimmy The Lurker at May 25, 2023 05:38 PM (ntFf7)

331 My comments are for entertainment purposes only, prolly get locked up for them though.

Posted by: WhitePunk at May 25, 2023 05:38 PM (KILK5)

332 What is "top surgery"? I'm not sure I should have asked.
Posted by: Notorious BFD

De-boobification.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at May 25, 2023 05:38 PM (FVME7)

333 but I see a bigger problem in DeSantis himself saying he aspires to be a leader like Ryan.

12 years ago. When DeSantis was in the Congress.

Have things changed since?

Trump is buddies with Graham NOW. he support Ronna McDaniel NOW. He supported Romney. He supported McConnell.

Are you really that concerned about who says nice things about who?

Posted by: blaster at May 25, 2023 05:39 PM (pwExq)

334 It seems to intensify before elections for some unfathomable reason. /s

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 25, 2023 05:37 PM (fZmG/)

What are you talking about?
(puts on Ray-Bans)

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 25, 2023 05:39 PM (Angsy)

335 Especially with a hash like KILK5.

Posted by: WhitePunk at May 25, 2023 05:39 PM (KILK5)

336 >>Trying to define what is and what is not 'Metal' is an amusing past time. But I'd rather just focus on what is good music and what is not.

True, but that Cookie Monster Metal is, in my opinion, not Metal, it's something not quite metal, it's something else and don't even get me started on Djent.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 25, 2023 05:35 PM (up/3i)

*goes to see if she's cute*

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, GotG vol 3 review at May 25, 2023 05:40 PM (xcxpd)

337 @316

>>Where do you put the band 'Baby Metal'?

It's Cookie Monster metal as interpreted and reimagined by an Anime Character watching Tentacle Porn.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 25, 2023 05:40 PM (up/3i)

338 Today the coworker proudly mentioned that "both my sons are trans"
______________

Great job of parenting. Such people shouldn't be allowed to have pets, never mind children.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 25, 2023 05:40 PM (YqDXo)

339 So remember before I asked for prayers for the daughter of a coworker who is getting top surgery? Today the coworker proudly mentioned that "both my sons are trans"
Apart from prayers, I don't really know what to do.
Everyone else at work seems to support this.
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at May 25, 2023 05:23 PM (vHIgi)
*****
It's a sickness. I wonder if there are people at your company pretending to support this, but secretly think it's abhorrent.
Too many people now see having trans kids as a status symbol and your coworker seems to be getting the attention that she wants.

Posted by: redridinghood at May 25, 2023 05:41 PM (NpAcC)

340 The illegal vote in Florida should be intersting to watch after the driver license ban hammer goes into effect.

Posted by: WhitePunk at May 25, 2023 05:41 PM (KILK5)

341 Founder of the Oath Keepers, Stuart Rhodes, Who Committed No Violence on January 6 and Did Not Even Enter the Capitol, Sentenced to 18 Years in Prison By Corrupt Evil Regime
_________________

Murderers often get less time than that. With time off for "good" behavior, a number of them get released inside of five years.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 25, 2023 05:42 PM (YqDXo)

342 U.S. District Court Judge Amit Mehta, is also a member of the FISC Court, so he is well versed in authoritarian BS!

Posted by: Jimmy The Lurker at May 25, 2023 05:43 PM (ntFf7)

343 One of the best and loudest concerts I ever went to was BOC and Zebra at Radio City Music Hall in 86.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 25, 2023 05:23 PM (up/3i)

Loudest concert I went to was a Ted Nugent bash in Ft. Wayne.
My sternum was vibrating.

Although, now that I think about it, BOC was super loud in the Chicago Amphitheater on their Fire of Unknown Origin tour. We had the tear out docks into shreds to make impromptu ear plugs, LOL.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 25, 2023 05:44 PM (ufFY8)

344 It's a sickness. I wonder if there are people at your company pretending to support this, but secretly think it's abhorrent.
Too many people now see having trans kids as a status symbol and your coworker seems to be getting the attention that she wants.
Posted by: redridinghood at May 25, 2023 05:41 PM (NpAcC)
____________

Seriously, even a few years ago, if someone had told you that having a transgender weirdo child would be a status symbol, you'd have thought he was crazy.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 25, 2023 05:44 PM (YqDXo)

345 250 Teachers’ Union Told LA Dodgers Students Could Die If Anti-Catholic Group Wasn’t Re-Invited To Pride Night
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Teachers' Unions could be decertified if I don't get a date with Milla Jovovich. Just sayin'

Posted by: Chuck Martel at May 25, 2023 05:44 PM (fs1hN)

346 "...The Republican Party will not save this country."
Posted by: No Shirt Shylock at May 25, 2023 05:34 PM (PWI4f)

The GOP is approaching its big Whig moment. The Whigs faded when its leadership refused to confront the Democrats over the Dred Scott decision and expansion of slavery into the territories, with emphasis on the 'refused to confront the Democrats' bit.

An opposition party that won't bother to oppose is a more or less controlled opposition and thus has no reason for being.

Posted by: troyriser at May 25, 2023 05:46 PM (7Cx1V)

347 A national divorce is impossible anyway. The left never leaves anyone alone. If conservatives form their own state, they'd infiltrate it and subvert it. They'll target your children and every successive generation. The only chance anyone has is to keep them at arms length and disrupt them.
___

This helps explain why God commanded the Israelites to destroy entire nations.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at May 25, 2023 05:47 PM (fs1hN)

348 340 The illegal vote in Florida should be intersting to watch after the driver license ban hammer goes into effect.
___

DeSantis is disenfranchising migrants!

Posted by: Media at May 25, 2023 05:49 PM (fs1hN)

349 I still love when he pulls the chute in the Vette...
after the 1st bounce.

Posted by: DaveA at May 25, 2023 05:56 PM (FhXTo)

350 Stuart Rhodes was declared to be asshole by his wife and kids in letters to the court

Posted by: Paul at May 25, 2023 06:03 PM (OHz8B)

351 As for the 2024 elections
We still have our Italian satellites that can change the tabulations on the voting machines.

Posted by: Paul at May 25, 2023 06:10 PM (OHz8B)

352 So is K A R S cars for kids Heavy Metal?

Posted by: Puddinhead at May 25, 2023 06:17 PM (/UtnQ)

353 This is why I laugh at those that say we have to get into the business of harvesting ballots just like the democrats if we want to compete. You just wait and see how fast the DOJ snaps into action as soon as the GOP starts playing in that grey area.

Posted by: tommylotto at May 25, 2023 06:25 PM (6QQM8)

354 it's fucking insane and I've been saying the thing about venue change for awhile.

there's a reason why, when they put trump in dc-gulag for life for documents and/or wink/nod seditious conspiracy (probably the day before the election) it'll be a dc jury.

oh well, we don't have a party that represents us so this lawfare shit will continue

Posted by: sockamster, gator at May 25, 2023 06:32 PM (MLrvz)

355 AS I said before in an earlier post:

This is the hill we are all dying on whether we like it or not.

Posted by: pawn at May 25, 2023 06:34 PM (wsHtO)

356 but whatever, if there is a president desantis (cause god knows trump will be in jail by then) then ...

you know these horrible fucking demonic liberals have no problem putting people in jail for decades while begging that their firebombing bretheren can go free.

well, fuck them sideways. They step foot in a semi-red jurisdicition, the desantis doj needs to be there.

Posted by: sockamster, gator at May 25, 2023 06:37 PM (MLrvz)

357 the judge who issue thee sentences are violating civil rights when they have no relation to the crime and are merely a means of punishing conservatives

these judges should die in prison

Posted by: yes at May 25, 2023 07:18 PM (saP0c)

358 The judge will have to watch his back for the rest of his life.

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