James Varney at RCP: The State Department Is Refusing to Provide Any Information About John Kerry's Globetrotting and His Meetings With Foreigners

There is no government authority where the government acts as a lawless criminal.

John Kerry leads an international jet-set life that might exhaust a runway model. If President Biden's special envoy for climate was not in Washington or relaxing at his mansion near Nantucket Harbor, he could be found in Brazil, Panama, the Bahamas, or Germany. And that's just in February and March.

While Kerry trumpets his meetings and appearances around the world, the State Department wraps the rest of his efforts in a cloak of secrecy usually reserved for CIA black box operations. It has refused to specify lists of people he is meeting with and who is advising him as he circles the globe. His office has stonewalled requests for budget and staffing information from legislators and government watchdog groups. In response to a Freedom of Information Act request filed last year by RealClearInvestigations for a breakdown on how the climate envoy's roughly $16.5 million 2022 budget was spent, the State Department said it could not comply with the request until April 2025, months after both the 2024 election and the expiration of President Biden's current term.
The secrecy surrounding Kerry's work is reaching a boiling point with the threat of a congressional subpoena.
Frustrated that Kerry's office ignored two previous requests for detailed information about its budget when his party was in the minority, Republican Rep. James Comer, who now heads the House Oversight Committee, sent what he labeled a final courtesy letter on April 25 and added that a subpoena would accompany the next request if Kerry's "powerful, unchecked position" continued to hide the information.
"The State Department has not provided any meaningful updates to Committee staff inquiries on the status of producing these documents," Comer wrote. "Envoy Kerry is engaging in activities that skirt congressional authority, threaten foreign policy under the guise of climate advocacy, and could undermine economic health. Yet, Envoy Kerry and his office are refusing to be transparent about their activities, spending, and staffing with the Committee -- and the American people."
Biden, who has identified climate change as the single greatest threat facing the United States, named Kerry the nation's first "special envoy for climate" on his first day in office in 2021.
His precise job description is difficult to determine, although Kerry has been given a seat on the White House national security team, and it is commonly referred to as a "cabinet level" position -- even though it did not require Senate confirmation.

Since taking office, Kerry has been indefatigable in attending conferences and meetings in far-flung posts and glittering capitals. His office has sent out his pronouncements to the press and copies of his public remarks from places such as Hanoi, Dhaka, London, Cairo (twice) and, last month, the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland. But almost nothing is known about discussions and potential agreements made at his private meetings.

Of course he's meeting with Klaus Schwab. They all do.

Given the Biden administration's penchant for issuing sweeping executive orders, especially regarding the climate, Republicans worry that Kerry's undefined position could translate into unchecked power to commit the United States to binding agreements with foreign powers. Neither the White House nor the State Department responded to questions about the precise nature of Kerry's work, and whether he was authorized to negotiate treaties on behalf of the United States.
"John Kerry continues to negotiate deals with foreign governments, including the Chinese Communist Party, that potentially undermine the United States' interests," Comer wrote, without the envoy's providing any detail about the nature or scope of those deals or whether any have been approved.

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1 Fuck you, peasants.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 12, 2023 03:00 PM (y/a4v)

2 Kerry was and is one of America's worst enemies

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 12, 2023 03:00 PM (pVWRI)

3 The most transparent administration evah!
/s

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 12, 2023 03:00 PM (EZebt)

4 Hey, and I read the content too. Maddening.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 12, 2023 03:00 PM (/iWhV)

5 "The secrecy surrounding Kerry's work is reaching a boiling point with the threat of a congressional subpoena."

OH NOES NOT THAT

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 12, 2023 03:00 PM (iFTx/)

6 It's under the "fuck you peasants," clause.

It was adopted from British common law.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, on just the weirdest trip with John Boorman at May 12, 2023 03:01 PM (LvTSG)

7 ... It has refused to specify lists of people he is meeting with and who is advising him as he circles the globe. ...
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It has also refused to disclose what Kerry is ostensibly *doing* in the first place.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 12, 2023 03:02 PM (DU+/6)

8 That adrenochrome must really be good. Why don't these old lefty fuckers ever die?

Posted by: Seems Legit. at May 12, 2023 03:02 PM (DcKNO)

9 "whether he was authorized to negotiate treaties on behalf of the United States."

A treaty without ratification in the Senate binds no American, period.

Posted by: trev006 at May 12, 2023 03:02 PM (78UcJ)

10 special envoy for climate

I hate climate so much.

Posted by: spindrift at May 12, 2023 03:02 PM (ivvNA)

11 The secrecy surrounding Kerry's work is reaching a boiling point with the threat of a congressional subpoena.
++++
Ooooooh. I'm shaking in my boots.

Posted by: Merrick Garland at May 12, 2023 03:02 PM (DU+/6)

12 Willowed:

He then introduces the concept of "hybrid warfare," which has seized the imagination of the intelligence agencies and national security state -- the idea that Future War is not just about tanks and infantry, but of words and ideas spread online, and to fight the Future War, we must declare merciless war on the Bad Words and Wrong Ideas.

In this way, he directly connects the Censorship-Industrial Complex to the Military-Industrial Complex -- they're both obsessed with winning the Future War. It's just that the Future War will now be largely fought on the "battlefields" of FaceBook comments areas.

This is kinda fascinating, in this regard:

Hybrid warfare allows the oh, let's say, useless people in on the huge pile of money that is set aside for national defense.
This is tailor made for college professors of English or Gender theory to leverage their way into importance and Money(!!!!) thru providing defense against Mean(!) Words(!!!).

Not longer do you have to be a near genius in the strategy of tank or naval, etc warfare, how weapons should be deployed. Nope. All you have to do is recognize Mean(!) Words(!!!) that could defeat us in Future War.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 12, 2023 03:02 PM (RJQ8g)

13 They can do everything they want as long as nobody stops them.

Posted by: XTC at May 12, 2023 03:02 PM (UnA8+)

14 "threat of a congressional subpoena."

IOW... a wet fart.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 12, 2023 03:02 PM (Q4IgG)

15 Technically they don't have to give congress anything because john "Sargent Rock" kerry is not a federal employee and not subject to any oversight.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 12, 2023 03:02 PM (ncXxy)

16 LOL... stoopid peasants think we owe them answers.

Signed,
Your Betters

Posted by: NALNAMSAM - not as lean, not as mean, still a Marine at May 12, 2023 03:03 PM (QLMF6)

17 Damn. Sock fail. That was supposed to be Antony Blinken. Sigh.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 12, 2023 03:03 PM (DU+/6)

18 Kerry showed up at the coronation of Kang Charles last week wearing his army medals.

We live in the shitty version of Earth.

Posted by: weft-cut loop at May 12, 2023 03:03 PM (jzzG8)

19 The GOPe took away any bargaining authority (power of the purse) with their continuing resolution which covers spending through this fall.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 12, 2023 03:03 PM (N39Ws)

20 How did this Klaus Schwab shitfucker get to be probably the most powerful man in the world? He's a nobody, a corrupt hack, a pencil-pushing bureaucrat of no particular distinction. Who's cock did he suck to get to where he is?

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 12, 2023 03:03 PM (iFTx/)

21 But Kerry’s got all those medals! We saw them at the Coronation! So he must be a hero!

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 12, 2023 03:03 PM (HBgbp)

22 They can do everything they want as long as nobody stops them.
Posted by: XTC at May 12, 2023 03:02 PM (UnA8+)

I would definitely be anxious if they were destroying anyone's power as quickly as their own. As it is, I can afford to wait for the real leader of the American nation, Donald Trump, to declare war.

Posted by: trev006 at May 12, 2023 03:04 PM (78UcJ)

23 Of course he's meeting with Klaus Schwab. They all do.

With Epstein dead they kind of have to don't they?

Posted by: 18-1 at May 12, 2023 03:04 PM (lc5cP)

24 20 How did this Klaus Schwab shitfucker get to be probably the most powerful man in the world? He's a nobody, a corrupt hack, a pencil-pushing bureaucrat of no particular distinction. Who's cock did he suck to get to where he is?
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 12, 2023 03:03 PM (iFTx/)

*Smiles. Lights cig.*

Posted by: 'Stan at May 12, 2023 03:04 PM (N3zMI)

25 It takes a lot of jet setting to try and take down the world's economic system all at once.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 12, 2023 03:05 PM (lTGtQ)

26 At no point do these pointless press releases ever threaten funding, despite the letters coming from powerful committee heads in the House, the source of funding for the US government.

Weird, huh?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, on just the weirdest trip with John Boorman at May 12, 2023 03:05 PM (LvTSG)

27 What is this fucker's actual job title?

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 12, 2023 03:05 PM (ufFY8)

28 But Kerry’s got all those medals! We saw them at the Coronation! So he must be a hero!

I have a question. If one "loses" one's medals, can one get a replacement? I assume you can as long as your records reflect the award.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 12, 2023 03:05 PM (eOEVl)

29 IOW... a wet fart.

I hate those.

Posted by: Bosk at May 12, 2023 03:05 PM (geB2x)

30 Who is to blame here?

A) Decades of Republicans being toothless lapdog?
Or
B) You, for not donating today! And receiving 5X matching so Republicans can fight the Democrats radical agenda!

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 12, 2023 03:05 PM (PNU5k)

31 How did this Klaus Schwab shitfucker get to be probably the most powerful man in the world? He's a nobody, a corrupt hack, a pencil-pushing bureaucrat of no particular distinction. Who's cock did he suck to get to where he is?

Remember in those Bond movies there would always be the child of some NAZI who would assemble an evil organization bent on conquering the world and would succeed if not stopped by Bond?

Well, I thought those movies were kind of silly but apparently they were dead on. And obviously in the real world there is no James Bond...

Posted by: 18-1 at May 12, 2023 03:06 PM (lc5cP)

32 The stronger the government is the less legitimate it gets.

Posted by: ... at May 12, 2023 03:06 PM (CN6G3)

33 >>The secrecy surrounding Kerry's work is reaching a boiling point with the threat of a congressional subpoena.

A Congressional subpoena? WHAATTT!!!

** swoons, faints, farts **

--
GOPe Mastermind Concerned about losing "Moderates and Independents.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 12, 2023 03:06 PM (xlag0)

34 Given the Biden administration's penchant for issuing sweeping executive orders, especially regarding the climate, Republicans worry that Kerry's undefined position could translate into unchecked power to commit the United States to binding agreements with foreign powers. Neither the White House nor the State Department responded to questions about the precise nature of Kerry's work, and whether he was authorized to negotiate treaties on behalf of the United States.
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There is no such thing as a "binding agreement with foreign powers" that does not have Congressional approval. It's called a "treaty," and it requires Congress. Any non-treaty agreement is non-binding the moment that anyone says it is.

But yeah, I agree with the Republicans that Kerry's unaccountable spook game is unacceptable. Maybe they should do something about that. Set both DoJ and State budgets at $0.01, pass the budget, send it to the Senate, and go fishing. They can sign it or not, but there will be no negotiation.

Or, you know, write some letters and issue some more subpoenas in the vast theatrical performance that is American public politics. Whatever.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 12, 2023 03:06 PM (DU+/6)

35 I think Kerry has been filming Bud Light commercials with the Clydesdales. Sure, he lacks their heft, but he's got medals.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 12, 2023 03:06 PM (eOEVl)

36 When almost every controversial action and policy of the DC regime is covered up and "redacted" from We the People, all supposedly on grounds of national security, then BY DEFINITION we are living in a security (i.e., police) state.

That's not a conspiracy theory . . . that's what the DC Regime itself is claiming: that 70+% of their work is in furtherance of highly secret national security work.

Posted by: Bamanarama at May 12, 2023 03:06 PM (uH1aC)

37 Kerry was and is one of America's worst enemies

It's like having Jane Fonda in office.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at May 12, 2023 03:06 PM (ppBhU)

38 Not everyone holds the prestigious Order of The Blue Falcon, you know!

Posted by: John Kerry at May 12, 2023 03:06 PM (a3Q+t)

39 John Kerry leads an international jet-set life that might exhaust a runway model.
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Runway model? No way. *Especially* not since that plastic surgeon stuffed his face full of mattress batting.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 12, 2023 03:07 PM (DU+/6)

40 Asshole needs to be Jengiss Khanned.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 12, 2023 03:07 PM (ufFY8)

41 Who's cock did he suck to get to where he is?
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 12, 2023 03:03 PM (iFTx/)

Real interesting question. While I am quite aware of the ethnic identity binding a substantial segment of the Inner Party, they aren't actually as vital to the leftist project as Dominion Voting Systems. In fact, the secrecy involving Dominion makes me wonder if 2020 was my first time seeing the true powers behind the world.

It isn't as important as I thought, however. The globalist system is collapsing under its own weight. When the federal debt to the vampire squid is repudiated, we will be a long way down the road back to reclaiming the country.

Posted by: trev006 at May 12, 2023 03:07 PM (78UcJ)

42 continuing resolution which covers spending through this fall.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed

Agreed. Thanks Turtle.

But it's up in Sept.

De-appropriate after. John Kerry related is expo-facto done. Line irem it. Maybe McCarthy continues to grow a pair.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at May 12, 2023 03:07 PM (C3G19)

43 They're not even trying to hide it. They're trying to drive something kinetic, mark my words. Don't fall for it.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at May 12, 2023 03:08 PM (Mzdiz)

44 My aqualine nose and my elite horse face gives me the authority to jet around the world -- first class or by private jet -- and pretend to solve this imaginary crisis!

Posted by: John eFFing Kerry at May 12, 2023 03:08 PM (P6qMv)

45 28 I think so, Archimedes, as long as your active duty. Because technically you’re considered out of uniform if you aren’t wearing all the medals/ribbons you are authorized to wear.

I think you can even buy replacements for the low-level stuff at the PX, IIRC.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 12, 2023 03:08 PM (HBgbp)

46 Eunuch Republicans hold the House.

Posted by: mr tmz at May 12, 2023 03:08 PM (rJ48h)

47 Why should we know? We’re only the citizens that pay for everything.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at May 12, 2023 03:09 PM (64eYK)

48 When the federal debt to the vampire squid is repudiated, we will be a long way down the road back to reclaiming the country.

Posted by: trev006 at May 12, 2023 03:07 PM (78UcJ)

Country road, take me home

Posted by: zombie John Denver at May 12, 2023 03:09 PM (Mzdiz)

49 Who's cock did he suck to get to where he is?
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 12, 2023 03:03 PM (iFTx/)
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Maybe no one's. He's been a power player for a long time. He didn't get his when he was due (he lost to Bush '43) and has been skulking around government with lots of power and no accountability ever since.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 12, 2023 03:09 PM (DU+/6)

50 wow, just posting in last thread about being late to the earlier late thread...

fucking arrest these fucks, like Kerry. the biden doj (or just the doj before biden when they decided to get trump) has shown no mercy...so maybe if we get a gop potus with balls...there's going to be a legal reckoning.

Posted by: sockamster, gator at May 12, 2023 03:09 PM (MLrvz)

51 They're trying to drive something kinetic, mark my words. Don't fall for it.
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at May 12, 2023 03:08 PM (Mzdiz)

I'm sure. And yet, look at Pakistan. Imran Khan's supporters are not just going to let him be dragged away. The same will happen in America when the call goes out.

Posted by: trev006 at May 12, 2023 03:09 PM (78UcJ)

52 Whelp, the lawn isn't going to mow itself. Later, gators.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at May 12, 2023 03:09 PM (N3zMI)

53 31 How did this Klaus Schwab shitfucker get to be probably the most powerful man in the world? He's a nobody, a corrupt hack, a pencil-pushing bureaucrat of no particular distinction. Who's cock did he suck to get to where he is?

Remember in those Bond movies there would always be the child of some NAZI who would assemble an evil organization bent on conquering the world and would succeed if not stopped by Bond?

Well, I thought those movies were kind of silly but apparently they were dead on. And obviously in the real world there is no James Bond...
Posted by: 18-1 at May 12, 2023 03:06 PM (lc5cP)
_________

True, but the Bond villains were geniuses. Evil geniuses, but still geniuses. This Schwab clown should be cleaning toilets at a Munich bar.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 12, 2023 03:10 PM (iFTx/)

54 Pres desantis:

arrest everyone
deport everyone
pardons and 8 figure settlements for J6 peaceful paraders

Posted by: sockamster, gator at May 12, 2023 03:10 PM (MLrvz)

55 Country road, take me home
Posted by: zombie John Denver at May 12, 2023 03:09 PM (Mzdiz)

And try to reach every lever and switch BEFORE you take off in an experimental airplane.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 12, 2023 03:10 PM (ufFY8)

56 The GOPe isn't interested in fixing anything.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at May 12, 2023 03:10 PM (Mzdiz)

57 How did this Klaus Schwab shitfucker get to be probably the most powerful man in the world?

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it is odd though? how does a billionaire someday graduate to bond villian?

like can the my pillow guy do that?

Posted by: sockamster, gator at May 12, 2023 03:10 PM (MLrvz)

58
What is this fucker's actual job title?
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt

==========

>>His precise job description is difficult to determine, although Kerry has been given a seat on the White House national security team, and it is commonly referred to as a "cabinet level" position -- even though it did not require Senate confirmation.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 12, 2023 03:11 PM (lCaJd)

59 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 12, 2023 03:11 PM (Zz0t1)

60 The GOPe isn't interested in fixing anything.

Uh what?

Posted by: GOPe leaders fixing their bank accounts at May 12, 2023 03:11 PM (lc5cP)

61 52 You’re gonna mow my lawn, ZR? That’s great, thanks. I’ll pay you with a case of Bud Light.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 12, 2023 03:11 PM (HBgbp)

62 54 Pres desantis:

arrest everyone
deport everyone
pardons and 8 figure settlements for J6 peaceful paraders
Posted by: sockamster, gator at May 12, 2023 03:10 PM (MLrvz)

=========

"Impeach!"
-Mitch McConnell

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, on just the weirdest trip with John Boorman at May 12, 2023 03:11 PM (LvTSG)

63 He's been rolling around the world on our dime selling America out and committing treason at every stop.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 12, 2023 03:11 PM (Zz0t1)

64 Again, I wonder why bad things don't happen to bad people. Anyway, everything is too depressing, so I'm going to sign off and drink.

Posted by: InZona at May 12, 2023 03:11 PM (bfyic)

65 even funnier considering the "billioniares for bush" bullshit liberal groups from the early aughts.

"oh now we're with the billionaires"

Posted by: sockamster, gator at May 12, 2023 03:11 PM (MLrvz)

66 What is this fucker's actual job title?
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 12, 2023 03:05 PM (ufFY

++++
"U.S. Special Presidential Envoy for Climate"

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 12, 2023 03:11 PM (DU+/6)

67 49 Who's cock did he suck to get to where he is?
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 12, 2023 03:03 PM (iFTx/)
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Maybe no one's. He's been a power player for a long time. He didn't get his when he was due (he lost to Bush '43) and has been skulking around government with lots of power and no accountability ever since.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 12, 2023 03:09 PM (DU+/6)
_______

Are you talking about Kerry? I agree. But my comment was about Schwab.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 12, 2023 03:12 PM (iFTx/)

68 There's nothing we can do.

Posted by: McCarthy and McConnell at May 12, 2023 03:12 PM (gdN9y)

69 The National Hurricane Center tweeted Thursday that the first storm of the 2023 Atlantic hurricane season occurred well before the season even started. Forecasters said a reanalysis of a major winter storm moving up the US East Coast in January qualified as the first tropical cyclone of the year.

Reeeeee! Climate change!!!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 12, 2023 03:12 PM (kJyOb)

70 "Impeach!"
-Mitch McConnell

///

sorry, mitch. you're going to the gulag just like hunter and nancy

Posted by: sockamster, gator at May 12, 2023 03:12 PM (MLrvz)

71 Willowed:
Julius Caesar was a brute force guy? I thought he was famous for forgiving people? Could his missives back to Rome have been "information war"?

You think Jugurtha's trips to Rome were sight seeing?
Posted by: Thesokorus at May 12, 2023 03:05 PM (KbwJl)

He was merciful to his 'Roman' rivals. Ask Vercingetorix how easy he was on Barbarian enemies of Rome. Or the guy who castrated Roman citizens in a bid for independence. Dammit. Cannot remember the guy's name. Or the ministers of Egypt who murdered Pompey.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 12, 2023 03:12 PM (zZu0s)

72 If only there was something the House could do to defund this

Posted by: Beeman at May 12, 2023 03:12 PM (2Pi9L)

73 Are you talking about Kerry? I agree. But my comment was about Schwab.
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 12, 2023 03:12 PM (iFTx/)
+++++
oooooooh.

Yeah. No idea.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 12, 2023 03:12 PM (DU+/6)

74 How did this Klaus Schwab shitfucker get to be probably the most powerful man in the world? He's a nobody, a corrupt hack, a pencil-pushing bureaucrat of no particular distinction. Who's cock did he suck to get to where he is?

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 12, 2023 03:03 PM (iFTx/)

Hee hee.

Posted by: Guy with Pitchfork at May 12, 2023 03:12 PM (Angsy)

75 I'm the Minister with plenipotentiary, baby!

Posted by: John Kerry at May 12, 2023 03:12 PM (4I/2K)

76 Tell me this isn't Bigfoot.

https://twtr.in/3QE4

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at May 12, 2023 03:12 PM (aD39U)

77 70 "Impeach!"
-Mitch McConnell

///

sorry, mitch. you're going to the gulag just like hunter and nancy
Posted by: sockamster, gator at May 12, 2023 03:12 PM (MLrvz)

========

*murders the new emperor for a better one that can be more controlled*
-~~the Praetorian guard~~ The DOJ

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, on just the weirdest trip with John Boorman at May 12, 2023 03:13 PM (LvTSG)

78 Biden, who has identified climate change as the single greatest threat facing the United States
........

Funny. I thought it was the federal government.

Posted by: wth at May 12, 2023 03:13 PM (v0R5T)

79 John Fucking Kerry has been a stain on the government since he put on his uniform in 1960.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 12, 2023 03:13 PM (kJyOb)

80 Why should Kerry or the State Department give any information about this? Why should the DoJ answer subpoenas from Congressfags?

Power doesn't ask permission or address questions. These people aren't answerable to any of us. It's their country, and we're guests here.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 12, 2023 03:13 PM (oINRc)

81 But Kerry’s got all those medals! We saw them at the Coronation! So he must be a hero!

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 12, 2023 03:03 PM (HBgbp)

Americans don't wear military medals on business suits, right?

So, non-American horse's ass.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 12, 2023 03:13 PM (Angsy)

82 one of the worst things about people like john kerry: trump understood that making a deal meant we got something we wanted and the other side got something they wanted. kerry and his ilk think it's they got something they wanted and we get to say 'we made a deal'

Posted by: gnats local 678 at May 12, 2023 03:13 PM (B1FKF)

83 Didn't those insurrectionists in the Freedom Caucus tell us they'd shake things up? Anyone heard from them?

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 12, 2023 03:13 PM (Q4IgG)

84 49 Who's cock did he suck to get to where he is?
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 12, 2023 03:03 PM (iFTx/)
++++
Maybe no one's. He's been a power player for a long time. He didn't get his when he was due (he lost to Bush '43) and has been skulking around government with lots of power and no accountability ever since.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 12, 2023 03:09 PM (DU+/6)

Obviously he's useful to somebody.

It remains to be seen exactly who is using him.

I am sure the republicans are going to find out.

Any day now.

Soon.

This time for SURE!

Posted by: Just Lily at May 12, 2023 03:13 PM (IPKTV)

85 Another Deep State client Horse Face is

Posted by: Skip at May 12, 2023 03:13 PM (xhxe8)

86 Power doesn't ask permission or address questions. These people aren't answerable to any of us. It's their country, and we're ~~guests~~ slaves here.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 12, 2023 03:13 PM (oINRc)
++++
Yup.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 12, 2023 03:14 PM (DU+/6)

87 The last time he was in front of a congressional committee and he was blasted with the FACTS that CO2 was HIGHER at points in measurable history BEFORE man arrived, he claimed they "weren't capable of having a serious conversation about the climate."

He's a weasel sack of shit that is working to destroy this country and every country on earth.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 12, 2023 03:14 PM (Zz0t1)

88 Again, I wonder why bad things don't happen to bad people. Anyway, everything is too depressing, so I'm going to sign off and drink.
Posted by: InZona at May 12, 2023 03:11 PM (bfyic)

Well, it IS 'fuck it all Friday', and I am considering a number of Nicaraguan rum and cokes to welcome our new Migrant Overlords.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 12, 2023 03:14 PM (ufFY8)

89 We can fix this by voting harder

Posted by: brak at May 12, 2023 03:14 PM (25k9m)

90 Hee hee.

Posted by: Guy with Pitchfork at May 12, 2023 03:12 PM (Angsy)

We only worship him ironically!

Posted by: All those Satan curious leftists at May 12, 2023 03:14 PM (lc5cP)

91 Given the Biden administration's penchant for issuing sweeping executive orders, especially regarding the climate, Republicans worry that Kerry's undefined position could translate into unchecked power to commit the United States to binding agreements with foreign powers.

Everything is unchecked. This is a rogue government.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 12, 2023 03:14 PM (Xrfse)

92 Kerry's busy setting up his own Pedo Island.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 12, 2023 03:14 PM (p+1gI)

93 by the way, if no one already said this, didn't kerry throw all his medals away? or were those just some stuff he bought at a hock shop?

Posted by: gnats local 678 at May 12, 2023 03:14 PM (B1FKF)

94 Tell me this isn't Bigfoot.

https://twtr.in/3QE4
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at May 12, 2023 03:12 PM (aD39U)

We're gonna have to shoot that one if we catch him making a fire.

Posted by: spindrift at May 12, 2023 03:15 PM (ivvNA)

95 There are lots of Klaus Schwabs. You just haven't heard of them, yet. I think the first dictator of the US is going to be someone you never heard of.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 12, 2023 03:15 PM (kJyOb)

96 Again, I wonder why bad things don't happen to bad people.

God gave us free will. If bad things directly and immediately happened to bad people it would invalidate that. You can't be free if you can only do the right things...

Posted by: 18-1 at May 12, 2023 03:15 PM (lc5cP)

97 The globalist system is collapsing under its own weight. When the federal debt to the vampire squid is repudiated, we will be a long way down the road back to reclaiming the country.
Posted by: trev006 at May 12, 2023 03:07 PM (78UcJ)

Yeah. The battle is against Int'l Finance. Which has lost most of the world rn. They aren't funding both sides of this conflict so ability will matter.

Int'l Finance just being a euphimism for Usury.

Posted by: Thesokorus at May 12, 2023 03:15 PM (KbwJl)

98 There is no government authority where the government acts as a lawless criminal.

Our authority is "Fuck you, pay me"...or go to jail/get Ruby Ridged. Any questions?

Posted by: Deep State Tyrants at May 12, 2023 03:16 PM (JCZqz)

99 I get something I want and you get to live.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 12, 2023 03:16 PM (kJyOb)

100 ". In just nine months last year he logged more than 180,000 miles, emitting some 9.5 million pounds of carbon, according to an analysis"

If Kerry really cared about the planet he would ditch the plane and do his meetings by Zoom.

That's how you know they don't really care about the climate. It's all a scam for control and $.

Posted by: redridinghood at May 12, 2023 03:16 PM (NpAcC)

101
God gave us free will. If bad things directly and immediately happened to bad people it would invalidate that. You can't be free if you can only do the right things...
Posted by: 18-1
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Jack Chalker used that premise in one of his vignettes in the book, And the Devil Will Drag You Under. Pretty good scifi/fantasy book.

Posted by: whig at May 12, 2023 03:17 PM (3aLWR)

102 Klaus Schwab was actually a protege of Kissinger.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 12, 2023 03:17 PM (HBgbp)

103
That's how you know they don't really care about the climate. It's all a scam for control and $.
Posted by: redridinghood at May 12, 2023 03:16 PM (NpAcC)

DING DING DING!!!!!

On to the bonus round!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 12, 2023 03:17 PM (Zz0t1)

104 This guy has been hanging around DC for what 30, 40 years? What a joke. This isn't how our country was supposed to be run.

Posted by: Adrienne at May 12, 2023 03:17 PM (gegMK)

105 100 ". In just nine months last year he logged more than 180,000 miles, emitting some 9.5 million pounds of carbon, according to an analysis"

If Kerry really cared about the planet he would ditch the plane and do his meetings by Zoom.

That's how you know they don't really care about the climate. It's all a scam for control and $.
Posted by: redridinghood at May 12, 2023 03:16 PM (NpAcC)

========

"Kerry is justified because the benefit of his actions outweigh the costs of his travel. He is a hero and should be celebrated."
-DU, most definitely

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, on just the weirdest trip with John Boorman at May 12, 2023 03:17 PM (LvTSG)

106 But Kerry’s got all those medals! We saw them at the Coronation! So he must be a hero!

I have a question. If one "loses" one's medals, can one get a replacement? I assume you can as long as your records reflect the award.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 12, 2023 03:05 PM

You can get replacement medals IIRC DOD will only issue one set of replacement medals per service member. That may have changed but we constantly get requests from widows and family members of deceased veterans who want to get the medals their spouse earned so they can make a shadow box after they die. You go to the US archives to start the process.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 12, 2023 03:17 PM (ncXxy)

107 Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis signed a bill into law Thursday that would hide records about his past and future travel, as well as powerful people he meets with, at a time when he's widely expected to be on the cusp of announcing he'll run for the 2024 Republican presidential nomination. (Business Insider)

https://tinyurl.com/2p888vfw

Posted by: SMH at May 12, 2023 03:18 PM (d8qOM)

108 Remember Kerry's official title is Hero of Communist Victory John Kerry.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at May 12, 2023 03:18 PM (CecP5)

109 They aren't funding both sides of this conflict so ability will matter.

Int'l Finance just being a euphimism for Usury.
Posted by: Thesokorus at May 12, 2023 03:15 PM (KbwJl)

They clearly Thought they owned China, and have since been very unpleasantly surprised. I don't even argue with neocons who claim China's about to collapse because of insufficient usury. Those fuckers can enjoy their very surprising future.

Posted by: trev006 at May 12, 2023 03:18 PM (78UcJ)

110 "U.S. Special Presidential Envoy for Climate"
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 12, 2023 03:11 PM (DU+/6)
.......

Those sacks of cash aren't going to launder themselves, you know.

Posted by: wth at May 12, 2023 03:18 PM (v0R5T)

111 Why does Klaus Schwab goad us with his insane outfits?

Spoof movies don't even have outfits as weird as his.

Posted by: Seems Legit. at May 12, 2023 03:18 PM (DcKNO)

112 CBO estimates 2023 deficit at

$1.5 Trillion.

No one will stop this.

Posted by: I've got bad news for you at May 12, 2023 03:18 PM (8yT+c)

113
"Kerry is justified because the benefit of his actions outweigh the costs of his travel. He is a hero and should be celebrated."

When this came up with Gore I remember the official argument from the left was "he's a rich, important guy - you can't expect him to live like normal people" And amusingly that was also the argument in regards to Bill Clinton being a rapist.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 12, 2023 03:18 PM (lc5cP)

114
We're gonna have to shoot that one if we catch him making a fire.
Posted by: spindrift at May 12, 2023 03:15 PM (ivvNA)

Nah....Let em mutate. We'll settle the debate just as soon as we see what it's skin color is when he morphs.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 12, 2023 03:19 PM (Zz0t1)

115 112 CBO estimates 2023 deficit at

$1.5 Trillion.

No one will stop this.
Posted by: I've got bad news for you at May 12, 2023 03:18 PM (8yT+c)

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"Cut everyone's spending but mine!"

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, on just the weirdest trip with John Boorman at May 12, 2023 03:19 PM (LvTSG)

116 We only worship him ironically!

Posted by: All those Satan curious leftists at May 12, 2023 03:14 PM (lc5cP)

Funny, I don't see your names here.

Posted by: Guy with Book of Life at May 12, 2023 03:19 PM (Angsy)

117 Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis signed a bill into law Thursday that would hide records about his past and future travel, as well as powerful people he meets with, at a time when

https://tinyurl.com/2p888vfw
Posted by: SMH at May 12, 2023 03:18 PM (d8qOM)

Absolutely perfect timing for the thread. Dirt's just being shoveled onto the grave.

Posted by: trev006 at May 12, 2023 03:19 PM (78UcJ)

118
I guess Comer is now the most frustrated and morally outraged man in Congress, taking the place of Devin Nunes. No backup from the Speaker as usual.

Also: some smart moron tell me what enforcement means are actually at the disposal of congress? Defunding, but isn't there some way they can issue a warrant on someone who fails to show up for a subpoena? Drag their distinguished ass in for a questioning?

As for FOIA, that seems to have complete failure of its rationale baked into it. Seems like there's no way to demand a deadline. The agencies being FOIAd can set their own schedule, and if it takes until the death of the last of King Charles III's direct descendants, so be it.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 12, 2023 03:19 PM (lCaJd)

119 113
"Kerry is justified because the benefit of his actions outweigh the costs of his travel. He is a hero and should be celebrated."

When this came up with Gore I remember the official argument from the left was "he's a rich, important guy - you can't expect him to live like normal people" And amusingly that was also the argument in regards to Bill Clinton being a rapist.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 12, 2023 03:18 PM (lc5cP)

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I'm a well-off guy. You can't expect me to live my life like I'm in poverty in the third world.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, on just the weirdest trip with John Boorman at May 12, 2023 03:19 PM (LvTSG)

120 Why does Klaus Schwab goad us with his insane outfits?

Those Bond/SF movies warning us not to let people like him control society? He sees them as an instruction manual.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 12, 2023 03:19 PM (lc5cP)

121 Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis signed a bill into law Thursday that would hide records about his past and future travel, as well as powerful people he meets with, at a time when he's widely expected to be on the cusp of announcing he'll run for the 2024 Republican presidential nomination. (Business Insider)

https://tinyurl.com/2p888vfw
Posted by: SMH at May 12, 2023 03:18 PM (d8qOM)

Then he can pay for it out of his own damn pocket.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 12, 2023 03:20 PM (Zz0t1)

122 CBO estimates 2023 deficit at

$1.5 Trillion.

No one will stop this.
Posted by: I've got bad news for you at May 12, 2023 03:18 PM (8yT+c)
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What's the estimated revenue?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 12, 2023 03:20 PM (DU+/6)

123 Wasn't this a question that came up here yesterday? Do we still operate in a "rule of law" world?

Sure, as long as you understand, those who rule make the law. Not vicey versey.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 12, 2023 03:20 PM (LNxNy)

124 IIRC, Michael Medved believed that Bigfoot was real.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 12, 2023 03:20 PM (HBgbp)

125 86 Power doesn't ask permission or address questions. These people aren't answerable to any of us. It's their country, and we're guests slaves here.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice
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Yup.
Posted by: Joe Mannix
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Would not go that far. They aren't answerable in the current setup. And we still have free will but they are trying to limit and destroy those choices and that is what the war is about.

The problem with elites exercising power is that essentially they are flying blind because they simply refuse to accept information about reality.

Posted by: whig at May 12, 2023 03:20 PM (3aLWR)

126 CBO estimates 2023 deficit at

$1.5 Trillion.

No one will stop this.

News from 2023: Why does my food cost x2 of 2020?

News from 2024: Why does my food cost x4 of 2020?

repeat...

Posted by: 18-1 at May 12, 2023 03:21 PM (lc5cP)

127 I'm a well-off guy. You can't expect me to live my life like I'm in poverty in the third world.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, on just the weirdest trip with John Boorman at May 12, 2023 03:19 PM (LvTSG)
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True. This is not the problem you think it is, though. You'll just be made poor. Desperately poor.

Posted by: Your Betters at May 12, 2023 03:21 PM (DU+/6)

128
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"Cut everyone's spending but mine!"
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, on just the weirdest trip with John Boorman at May 12, 2023 03:19 PM (LvTSG)

Lyrics on the cutting room floor at Led Zeppelin Studios.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 12, 2023 03:21 PM (Zz0t1)

129 Republicans are the "You brute! You vicious brute!" guy at the end of Blazing Saddles.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 12, 2023 03:21 PM (PNU5k)

130 Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis signed a bill into law Thursday that would hide records about his past and future travel, as well as powerful people he meets with, at a time when

https://tinyurl.com/2p888vfw
Posted by: SMH at May 12, 2023 03:18 PM (d8qOM)

I won't know what to think about this until blago et al can blame this on you know who.

Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 One day closer to nowhere at May 12, 2023 03:21 PM (89Sog)

131 Whatever happened to Ter-rezza?

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 12, 2023 03:21 PM (4I/2K)

132 When you have a person Like McCarthy as the majority leader consider yourself f*cked. Then ask for more.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 12, 2023 03:21 PM (N5C4b)

133 didn't kerry recently say something about how he buys carbon credits? it's okay if you're rich.

you know these people won't be dining on salisbury steaks made from crickets at those climate conferences.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at May 12, 2023 03:22 PM (B1FKF)

134 Hey, SMH.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 12, 2023 03:22 PM (HBgbp)

135 Hello, Bulgaroctonus.

How are you doing?

Posted by: SMH at May 12, 2023 03:23 PM (d8qOM)

136 True. This is not the problem you think it is, though. You'll just be made poor. Desperately poor.

I still remember the leftwing writers at the various travel magazines bitching about all the normal, middle class people traveling to their favorite destinations during the Trump years.

One in particular was outraged he had to wait for the family of a plumber from Ohio to get seated before him at some fancy Parisian restaurant.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 12, 2023 03:23 PM (lc5cP)

137 He was merciful to his 'Roman' rivals. Ask Vercingetorix how easy he was on Barbarian enemies of Rome. Or the guy who castrated Roman citizens in a bid for independence. Dammit. Cannot remember the guy's name. Or the ministers of Egypt who murdered Pompey.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 12, 2023 03:12 PM (zZu0s)

He was quite easy on any who stopped fighting and preferred to avoid battle. And he constantly worked behind the scenes in a "hybrid" manner in Gaul.

The entire Gallic episode was a minor operation in his strategic approach toward Rome. A strategic approach that embraced every modality.

Same with Napoleon. He was notorious for cutting deals with opponents during his rise. He lost when the overall context forced him to forgo his usual dealmaking. And he used huge amounts of "information warfare". Hegel was doing that for him.

Posted by: Thesokorus at May 12, 2023 03:23 PM (KbwJl)

138 "If Kerry really cared about the planet he would ditch the plane and do his meetings by Zoom."

True. It's not as though any US secret info could legitimately be exposed at any of those meetings.

Posted by: Freddy from Lake Frederick at May 12, 2023 03:23 PM (WlIXW)

139 The problem with elites exercising power is that essentially they are flying blind because they simply refuse to accept information about reality.
Posted by: whig at May 12, 2023 03:20 PM (3aLWR)
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Right, at which point the system collapses and new system is established. Until that point, though, I think the observation is essentially correct. It doesn't matter that they are getting ready to auger in and that this fucker's going down. They are, and it is. It will not last forever.

But in this place, at this time, it's correct. They are accountable to no one and will continue to be accountable to no one until they lose control and it all blows to pieces (or melts into slime - it could go either way).

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 12, 2023 03:23 PM (DU+/6)

140
When this came up with Gore I remember the official argument from the left was "he's a rich, important guy - you can't expect him to live like normal people" And amusingly that was also the argument in regards to Bill Clinton being a rapist.
Posted by: 18-1

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LOLOL, I remember that too. Also about that giant houseboat, "He needs to host big parties for rich donors and like-minded individuals."

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 12, 2023 03:23 PM (lCaJd)

141 IIRC, Michael Medved believed that Bigfoot was real.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 12, 2023 03:20 PM (HBgbp)

he was also Pink Boy in Time Chasers.

True fact.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Trailer Trash Adjacent at May 12, 2023 03:23 PM (xPJvm)

142 CBO estimates 2023 deficit at

$1.5 Trillion.

No one will stop this.
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Did you see the chart on how much of the budgets now is going to go to debt service?

The deficit could be zero and we're still f'ed.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 12, 2023 03:23 PM (PNU5k)

143 57 How did this Klaus Schwab shitfucker get to be probably the most powerful man in the world?
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CIA. Whenever you are being sold a Bond Villain, know that the Company is his employer.

Posted by: Puddinhead at May 12, 2023 03:23 PM (fWTJL)

144 [iFlorida Gov. Ron DeSantis signed a bill into law Thursday that would hide records about his past and future travel, as well as powerful people he meets with, at a time when

You know who wouldn't do this? Vivek Ramaswamy that's who.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 12, 2023 03:23 PM (N5C4b)

145 Cult mom, Lori Vallow found guilty of murdering 2 of her children.

Posted by: redridinghood at May 12, 2023 03:23 PM (NpAcC)

146 What's the estimated revenue?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 12, 2023 03:20 PM (DU+/6)

$20, same as in town.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 12, 2023 03:23 PM (Angsy)

147 Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis signed a bill into law Thursday that would hide records about his past and future travel, as well as powerful people he meets with, at a time when he's widely expected to be on the cusp of announcing he'll run for the 2024 Republican presidential nomination. (Business Insider)

https://tinyurl.com/2p888vfw
Posted by: SMH at May 12, 2023 03:18 PM

You might want to go and read what the bill actually says.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 12, 2023 03:23 PM (ncXxy)

148 Republicans are the "You brute! You vicious brute!" guy at the end of Blazing Saddles.

I thought they were the guy that dropped the soap in the gay men in prison movie?

Posted by: Obligatory at May 12, 2023 03:23 PM (lc5cP)

149
One in particular was outraged he had to wait for the family of a plumber from Ohio to get seated before him at some fancy Parisian restaurant.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 12, 2023 03:23 PM (lc5cP)

Nobody is 'elite' when everybody is and that pisses them off to no end.

I LOVE it.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 12, 2023 03:23 PM (Zz0t1)

150 One in particular was outraged he had to wait for the family of a plumber from Ohio to get seated before him at some fancy Parisian restaurant.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 12, 2023 03:23 PM (lc5cP)
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Yeah, I vaguely recall something like that.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 12, 2023 03:24 PM (DU+/6)

151 CBO estimates 2023 deficit at

$1.5 Trillion.

No one will stop this.
Posted by: I've got bad news for you
.........

The bank runs are going to be epic, but only if you can get past the gang wars.

Posted by: wth at May 12, 2023 03:24 PM (v0R5T)

152 135 I’m OK. You?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 12, 2023 03:24 PM (HBgbp)

153 vignettes in the book, And the Devil Will Drag You Under.

By the sharp lapel of your checkered coat

https://youtu.be/nJq7J2uzSlc

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 12, 2023 03:24 PM (ufFY8)

154 John Kerry is emitting massive amounts of CO2 with all of his travels, which is greatly improving life on earth. Even if he is one of the stupidest persons on the planet, at least he is doing some good for all of us.

Posted by: Roland F Hirsch at May 12, 2023 03:24 PM (oMkPq)

155 Banana Republic.

Posted by: Infidel at May 12, 2023 03:24 PM (kHtnd)

156 Hybrid warfare. Marxist subversion. Whichever.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 12, 2023 03:25 PM (EZebt)

157 Did you see the chart on how much of the budgets now is going to go to debt service?

The deficit could be zero and we're still f'ed.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 12, 2023 03:23 PM (PNU5k)
++++
Not entirely. Cut the budgets by gigantic amounts, balance it and live within our means under tremendous austerity for 10-15 years while we service the debt and take a chunk out of it.

But that would result in the government shrinking by 50% at absolute minimum and a lot of social programs going away. They'd rather keep riding until it derails and catches fire.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 12, 2023 03:25 PM (DU+/6)

158 hina, and have since been very unpleasantly surprised. I don't even argue with neocons who claim China's about to collapse because of insufficient usury. Those fuckers can enjoy their very surprising future.
Posted by: trev006 at May 12, 2023 03:18 PM (78UcJ)

*thumbs up*

BAKHMUT HOLDS!

Posted by: Thesokorus at May 12, 2023 03:26 PM (KbwJl)

159 Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis signed a bill into law Thursday that would hide records about his past and future travel, as well as powerful people he meets with

The records hidden appear to be transportation and security details.

https://bityl.co/Iefv

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at May 12, 2023 03:26 PM (aD39U)

160 The best part of John Kerry dribbled out of his father's asshole.

Posted by: ... at May 12, 2023 03:26 PM (z1mje)

161 Stubby Kaye rocked that number in Guys and Dolls.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 12, 2023 03:26 PM (HBgbp)

162 What's the estimated revenue?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a

It wasn't mentioned in the article I read.

Posted by: I've got bad news for you at May 12, 2023 03:26 PM (8yT+c)

163 Kerry and Mitch Landrieu (Joe's non-Seante confirmed infrastructure boss-man) and several other Biden-hired people are what the President and everyone, media included, used to call Czars. The term "czar" isn't fashionable anymore for Democrats. But the job description is the same: Do whatever POTUS wants done. The czars define Administration policy and allocate money and other resources.

How is this legal, you ask? The czar sends "un-official" recommendations to Administration officials who do have authority to issue rulings and regulations, and to spend money. Congress gives away those authorities to SecState, SecDef, SecEnergy, etc. in the many, many laws that say, "The Secretary shall have the authority to..."

Illustrating why the Chevron case being reviewed by SCOTUS is extremely important.

Posted by: Gref at May 12, 2023 03:26 PM (AMIL/)

164 157 But that would result in the government shrinking by 50% at absolute minimum and a lot of social programs going away. They'd rather keep riding until it derails and catches fire.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 12, 2023 03:25 PM (DU+/6)

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"Wait...not MY social program, right? Right?!"

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, on just the weirdest trip with John Boorman at May 12, 2023 03:27 PM (LvTSG)

165 The best part of John Kerry dribbled out of his father's asshole.
Posted by: ... at May 12, 2023 03:26 PM (z1mje)

They don't call him "Creampie" Kerry for nothing, you know.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 12, 2023 03:27 PM (Zz0t1)

166
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"Wait...not MY social program, right? Right?!"
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, on just the weirdest trip with John Boorman at May 12, 2023 03:27 PM (LvTSG)

Cowboy Poetry is just WAY too important.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 12, 2023 03:28 PM (Zz0t1)

167
In just nine months last year he logged more than 180,000 miles, emitting some 9.5 million pounds of carbon, according to an analysis

I love how the "carbon emissions" are about 10 times the weight of the fuel being burned.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 12, 2023 03:28 PM (n+4am)

168 Did you see the chart on how much of the budgets now is going to go to debt service?

The deficit could be zero and we're still f'ed.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 12, 2023 03:23 PM (PNU5k)
++++
Not entirely. Cut the budgets by gigantic amounts, balance it and live within our means under tremendous austerity for 10-15 years while we service the debt and take a chunk out of it.

But that would result in the government shrinking by 50% at absolute minimum and a lot of social programs going away. They'd rather keep riding until it derails and catches fire.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 12, 2023 03:25 PM

I read somewhere recently (and it may have been a sefton morning report link) that the entirety of all federal income taxes received will be required to service interest on the debt by 2035.

It's gonna get sporty soon.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 12, 2023 03:28 PM (ncXxy)

169 163 It’s “tsar.” Grrrrr…

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 12, 2023 03:28 PM (HBgbp)

170 You might want to go and read what the bill actually says.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 12, 2023 03:23 PM (ncXxy)

Don't be silly. If Business Insider says DeSantis is worse than Hitler, that's good enough for me.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 12, 2023 03:29 PM (LNxNy)

171 I love how the "carbon emissions" are about 10 times the weight of the fuel being burned.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 12, 2023 03:28 PM (n+4am)

Chemistry involves math but, yes, it pencils out.

Posted by: blaster at May 12, 2023 03:29 PM (pwExq)

172 But that would result in the government shrinking by 50% at absolute minimum and a lot of social programs going away. They'd rather keep riding until it derails and catches fire.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 12, 2023 03:25 PM (DU+/6)

I like the cut of your jib.
And your harem.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at May 12, 2023 03:29 PM (ufFY8)

173 I read somewhere recently (and it may have been a sefton morning report link) that the entirety of all federal income taxes received will be required to service interest on the debt by 2035.

It's gonna get sporty soon.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 12, 2023 03:28 PM (ncXxy)
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That's possible. It all depends on how much we keep throwing on the pile, and how expensive that maintenance gets (interest rates).

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 12, 2023 03:30 PM (DU+/6)

174 Mannix has an actual harem?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 12, 2023 03:30 PM (HBgbp)

175 Yes, very odd. But here's some possibilities -

1/18/23 - Fancantieri to build a service operation vessel supporting U.S. Wind Farms

U. S. State Department: Launch of “Movilidad Segura” Website for Information on Regional Processing Centers.

U.S. Mission Geneva, @ usmissiongeneva U.S. Mission to the United Nations and Other International Organizations in Geneva.

NYT Guest Opinion: We Worked on the U.S. Pandemic Response. Here Are 13 Takeaways for the Next Health Emergency, May 11, 2023

CNN, today, Why John Kerry is confident Biden’s climate policies can survive a Republican president

Most importantly, like his work mates, definitely not going broke.

Posted by: Lola - ALL the 1/6 videotapes from Alexandra and Jade, too. at May 12, 2023 03:30 PM (GshMh)

176 Mannix has an actual harem?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 12, 2023 03:30 PM (HBgbp)

That settles it. He MUST be a cop.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 12, 2023 03:31 PM (Zz0t1)

177 Mannix has an actual harem?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 12, 2023 03:30 PM (HBgbp)

Doesn't everyone?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 12, 2023 03:31 PM (pVWRI)

178 Florida Bill HB1495

https://tinyurl.com/2mhzx6p6

Posted by: SMH at May 12, 2023 03:31 PM (d8qOM)

179 Next you'll be telling me that Hunter Biden is on the Cabinet payroll as Money Laundering Czar.

Posted by: ShainS at May 12, 2023 03:31 PM (JXlGR)

180 176 Mannix has an actual harem?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 12, 2023 03:30 PM (HBgbp)

That settles it. He MUST be a cop.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 12, 2023 03:31 PM (Zz0t1)

=========

I've suspected for a while.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, on just the weirdest trip with John Boorman at May 12, 2023 03:31 PM (LvTSG)

181 Hey, Anchorbabe, why don’t we get updates from you on the soap floozies anymore?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 12, 2023 03:31 PM (HBgbp)

182 The federal government owns about 640 million acres (2.6 million km2) of land in the United States, about 28% of the total land area of 2.27 billion acres (9.2 million km2).

Sell off 10 million acres per year and use it to pay down the debt. Bonus - the screams and tears of the leftist clowns.

Posted by: Freddy from Lake Frederick at May 12, 2023 03:32 PM (WlIXW)

183 I read somewhere recently (and it may have been a sefton morning report link) that the entirety of all federal income taxes received will be required to service interest on the debt by 2035.

It's gonna get sporty soon.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 12, 2023 03:28 PM (ncXxy)

And I am considered a "crank" for obsessively hating usury. Wow.

I'm actually am a "crank" because I think there was a polar origination of humankind who are a hybrid of insectivore aquatic apes and ayyyyyy-lmaos.

Posted by: Thesokorus at May 12, 2023 03:32 PM (KbwJl)

184 >>>Mannix has an actual harem?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 12, 2023 03:30 PM (HBgbp)

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Sure. I swear he post pics of them daily.

Posted by: Turn 2 at May 12, 2023 03:32 PM (7jgO9)

185 {i] Brazil, Panama, the Bahamas, or Germany

Carnac the Magnificent's answer:

Names of four countries that have recently had Earth shaking corruption scandals involving multinational corporations and actual foreign governments participating in kickbacks, influence peddling and money laundering.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 12, 2023 03:32 PM (xhaym)

186 182 The federal government owns about 640 million acres (2.6 million km2) of land in the United States, about 28% of the total land area of 2.27 billion acres (9.2 million km2).

Sell off 10 million acres per year and use it to pay down the debt. Bonus - the screams and tears of the leftist clowns.
Posted by: Freddy from Lake Frederick at May 12, 2023 03:32 PM (WlIXW)

=========

"OOO! More money to shovel to cronies!"
-99.999% of government

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, on just the weirdest trip with John Boorman at May 12, 2023 03:32 PM (LvTSG)

187 Mannix has an actual harem?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 12, 2023 03:30 PM (HBgbp)
.......

You don't think he gets those pics off the internet, do you?

Posted by: wth at May 12, 2023 03:33 PM (v0R5T)

188 This redhead in an open shirt thinks that beyond merely looking like a drunk artist's rendering of a decrepit Mr. Munster, John Kerry is also an unalloyed piece of shit:
https://is.gd/TY6RWT

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 12, 2023 03:33 PM (DU+/6)

189 Grifting frauds, one and all.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at May 12, 2023 03:33 PM (ZSK0i)

190 .......

You don't think he gets those pics off the internet, do you?
Posted by: wth at May 12, 2023 03:33 PM (v0R5T)

Dude is Charlie Sheen without all the drugs and AIDS.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 12, 2023 03:33 PM (Zz0t1)

191 Man, I am much cooler here than I am in my real life.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 12, 2023 03:34 PM (DU+/6)

192 Look, we are going to re-value gold w/in the next 3yrs to reset this debt.

We just are.

Posted by: Thesokorus at May 12, 2023 03:34 PM (KbwJl)

193 If anybody is in touch with Jane, please send my heartfelt thoughts and prayers to her.

Posted by: ... at May 12, 2023 03:34 PM (z1mje)

194 I’m OK. You?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus
___

I'm fine.

Getting baptized Sunday.

Posted by: SMH at May 12, 2023 03:34 PM (d8qOM)

195 Whatever became of John Edwards? They had a book, "Our Plan For America" and everything. Even Presidential hair.

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 12, 2023 03:34 PM (4I/2K)

196 191 Man, I am much cooler here than I am in my real life.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 12, 2023 03:34 PM (DU+/6)

God I hope not.

Posted by: Thesokorus at May 12, 2023 03:34 PM (KbwJl)

197 187 Hmmm. This brings up the question of where TJM gets his Daddario pics from…

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 12, 2023 03:35 PM (HBgbp)

198 ___

I'm fine.

Getting baptized Sunday.
Posted by: SMH at May 12, 2023 03:34 PM (d8qOM)

CONGRATS!!! That's awesome.

Good for you. Happy Mother's Day to the extreme.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 12, 2023 03:35 PM (Zz0t1)

199 Sell off 10 million acres per year and use it to pay down the debt. Bonus - the screams and tears of the leftist clowns.
Posted by: Freddy from Lake Frederick at May 12, 2023 03:32 PM (WlIXW)

Sounds like a good idea to us -

Blackrock, Bill Gates, and Chi Nah.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 12, 2023 03:35 PM (LNxNy)

200 191 Man, I am much cooler here than I am in my real life.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 12, 2023 03:34 PM (DU+/6)

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Cops are never cool, man.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, on just the weirdest trip with John Boorman at May 12, 2023 03:35 PM (LvTSG)

201 Schellenberger says on Rogan that what really scared the Deep State was fear of Trump pulling out of Nato. Schellenberger discounts that idea. So what do these "Intelligence Agencies" -- especially the FBI -- think five million unvetted people invading the country.

But the FBI keeps tabs on Catholics who attend Latin Mass and parents who get angry at school board meetings

Nice trade. FJB for Trump

Posted by: JM in Fla/Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at May 12, 2023 03:35 PM (vsRKJ)

202 194 I’m OK. You?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus
___

I'm fine.

Getting baptized Sunday.
Posted by: SMH at May 12, 2023 03:34 PM (d8qOM)

Take it from experience, they frown on yelling CAAANNNONNNBAAAALLLLL'

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 12, 2023 03:36 PM (6VKyY)

203 Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 12, 2023 03:33 PM (DU+/6)

I know I'm weird but I don't think I've ever been attracted to anyone I wouldn't turn my back on.

Posted by: ... at May 12, 2023 03:36 PM (z1mje)

204
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Cops are never cool, man.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, on just the weirdest trip with John Boorman at May 12, 2023 03:35 PM (LvTSG)

Fry em like bacon, n' shit.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 12, 2023 03:36 PM (Zz0t1)

205 Thank you, Sponge. : )

Posted by: SMH at May 12, 2023 03:36 PM (d8qOM)

206 He's got eunuchs, too

Posted by: wth at May 12, 2023 03:36 PM (v0R5T)

207 Kerry was and is one of America's worst enemies

Yeah. As lousy as Bush was and is in so many ways: less terrible than Kerry.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 12, 2023 03:36 PM (0hOvj)

208 195 Whatever became of John Edwards? They had a book, "Our Plan For America" and everything. Even Presidential hair.

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 12, 2023 03:34 PM (4I/2K)

We was sent to the showers by the DNC top command because he wasn't sharing his blonde bimbo mistresses with them.

Posted by: Gref at May 12, 2023 03:36 PM (AMIL/)

209 Hunter Biden is Joe Biden's grift bag man.

John Kerry is Joe Biden's transformative legacy bag man.

Posted by: Lost In Space at May 12, 2023 03:37 PM (iGfKR)

210 Of course he's meeting with Klaus Schwab. They all do.

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Remember that great Berlin Wall image depicting Gorbachev french kissing Honecker?

I'm envisioning a similar scenario with Kerry and all the other useful idiots on their knees performing fellatio on Klaus "Barbie" Schwab.

Posted by: ShainS at May 12, 2023 03:37 PM (JXlGR)

211 Florida Bill HB1495

https://tinyurl.com/2mhzx6p6
Posted by: SMH at May 12, 2023 03:31 PM (d8qOM)

I don't have any issue with that FL law.
I might have let those records be available after a period of time, like 2-4 years.

Anyway, the FL legislature passed it.
DeSantis is not a dictator yet.

Fucking lying MFM.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 12, 2023 03:37 PM (ufFY8)

212

We was sent to the showers by the DNC top command because he wasn't sharing his blonde bimbo mistresses with them.
Posted by: Gref at May 12, 2023 03:36 PM (AMIL/)

Yeah. Cheating on your dying wife while running for office only works for war heroes, dontchaknow.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 12, 2023 03:37 PM (Zz0t1)

213 I am told I was cool when I emerged from my mother so they wrapped me in a blanket and that apparently took care of that.

Posted by: ... at May 12, 2023 03:38 PM (z1mje)

214 194 Excellent, SMH!

Don’t know what to say about a baptism. “Congratulations” doesn’t seem quite appropriate. But whatever the spiritually appropriate version of “Congratulations” is, that’s what I wish you.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 12, 2023 03:38 PM (HBgbp)

215 Getting baptized Sunday.
Posted by: SMH at May 12, 2023 03:34 PM (d8qOM)

Awesome.

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 12, 2023 03:38 PM (4I/2K)

216 This redhead in an open shirt thinks that beyond merely looking like a drunk artist's rendering of a decrepit Mr. Munster, John Kerry is also an unalloyed piece of shit:
https://is.gd/TY6RWT
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 12, 2023 03:33 PM

Se's not wrong...

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 12, 2023 03:38 PM (Wnv9h)

217

He's distributing serum to protect privileged world leaders from the Lizard People EMP gas bombs which will soon lobotomize the peasants back into a pre-industrial state leaving the survivors as slaves, organ and protein sources and play-toys...

PROVE HE ISN'T!

Posted by: Tin Foil Body Glove at May 12, 2023 03:38 PM (ej32T)

218 "She's" Sheesh...

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 12, 2023 03:38 PM (Wnv9h)

219
Don’t know what to say about a baptism. “Congratulations” doesn’t seem quite appropriate. But whatever the spiritually appropriate version of “Congratulations” is, that’s what I wish you.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 12, 2023 03:38 PM (HBgbp)

Ooof. That hurts.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 12, 2023 03:38 PM (Zz0t1)

220
I-uh like-uh, like-uh c-c-c-custard

yeah

Posted by: John Fetterman at May 12, 2023 03:39 PM (vwCZJ)

221 Hunter Biden is Joe Biden's grift bag man.

John Kerry is Joe Biden's transformative legacy bag man.

Posted by: Lost In Space at May 12, 2023 03:37 PM (iGfKR)

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And Obama is F. Joe's tea bag man.

Posted by: ShainS at May 12, 2023 03:39 PM (JXlGR)

222 Or the guy who castrated Roman citizens in a bid for independence. Dammit. Cannot remember the guy's name.

I forget which number, but I think that was one of the Mithridates. King of the Kingdom of Pontus, the capital of which was Sinope.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at May 12, 2023 03:39 PM (gHSfI)

223 The appropriate response to a Baptism is

Hallelujah!

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 12, 2023 03:40 PM (6VKyY)

224 OOO! More money to shovel to cronies!"
-99.999% of government
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, on just the weirdest trip with John Boorman at May 12,

But of course. Any money they get will be pocketed. There's no way that any of them would *consider* servicing debt. They'll default first. Dealing with that is for the Little People of the Future to do.... The Today Money all goes to them.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 12, 2023 03:40 PM (oINRc)

225 Posted by: SMH at May 12, 2023 03:34 PM (d8qOM)

Does that mean that after Sunday you're gonna have to start being nice?

Posted by: ... at May 12, 2023 03:40 PM (z1mje)

226 Amen, AlaBAMA.

Posted by: SMH at May 12, 2023 03:41 PM (d8qOM)

227 223 Noted.

Hallelujah, SMH!

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 12, 2023 03:41 PM (HBgbp)

228 224 OOO! More money to shovel to cronies!"
-99.999% of government
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, on just the weirdest trip with John Boorman at May 12,

But of course. Any money they get will be pocketed. There's no way that any of them would *consider* servicing debt. They'll default first. Dealing with that is for the Little People of the Future to do.... The Today Money all goes to them.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 12, 2023 03:40 PM (oINRc)

=======

*note: the .0001% are too busy watching child porn on government computers to notice the sale of public lands*

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, on just the weirdest trip with John Boorman at May 12, 2023 03:41 PM (LvTSG)

229
Does that mean that after Sunday you're gonna have to start being nice?
Posted by: ... at May 12, 2023 03:40 PM (z1mje)

It's a do over, of sorts. She pressed the reset button and is respawning her faith.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 12, 2023 03:41 PM (Zz0t1)

230 Not entirely. Cut the budgets by gigantic amounts, balance it and live within our means under tremendous austerity for 10-15 years while we service the debt and take a chunk out of it.

But that would result in the government shrinking by 50% at absolute minimum and a lot of social programs going away. They'd rather keep riding until it derails and catches fire.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 12, 2023 03:25 PM (DU+/6)

Even assuming recent immigrants would go for that, no chance in hell, why pay back the banksters? Either way, deficit financing is over and no new loans will be made available. So instead you get the alternative:

1) All domestic federal debt is repudiated, period. Foreign federal debt will be negotiated. Creditors who do take a haircut will be repudiated.

2) Absolute embargo on mortgage payments. Anyone with mortgage claims on a primary domicile gets to keep the house. All groups like Blackrock and all absent foreigners get all but one of their properties expropriated without compensation.

3) Citizens in good standing get their loans forgiven. Enemies of the state either pay what is owed or do time.

Posted by: trev006 at May 12, 2023 03:41 PM (78UcJ)

231 >>He's got eunuchs, too

Can't we stop talking about garrett for one thread?

Posted by: JackStraw at May 12, 2023 03:41 PM (ZLI7S)

232 I once again am going to ask the question that nobody will ever answer when I ask it: "If you could print as much money as you wanted, why would you ever need to borrow any of those dollars from anyone?"

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at May 12, 2023 03:41 PM (CecP5)

233 Florida Bill HB1495

https://tinyurl.com/2mhzx6p6
Posted by: SMH at May 12, 2023 03:31 PM (d8qOM)

I don't have any issue with that FL law.
I might have let those records be available after a period of time, like 2-4 years.

Anyway, the FL legislature passed it.
DeSantis is not a dictator yet.

Fucking lying MFM.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 12, 2023 03:37 PM

And the bill sunsets as well. All the bill contains is a block on releasing records for desantis and other State officials travel security arrangements that are held by law enforcement.

The anti desantis people have lit the gaslight over this bill.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 12, 2023 03:41 PM (ncXxy)

234 Or the guy who castrated Roman citizens in a bid for independence. Dammit. Cannot remember the guy's name.

Man, he sure is strict about no gum chewing in line!

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 12, 2023 03:42 PM (4I/2K)

235 Does that mean that after Sunday you're gonna have to start being nice?
Posted by: ... at May 12, 2023 03:40 PM (z1mje)
_

I'm saved, not nice. ; )

Posted by: SMH at May 12, 2023 03:42 PM (d8qOM)

236 194. I'm fine. Getting baptized Sunday.
Posted by: SMH at May 12, 2023 03:34 PM

Warmest wishes on your Baptism, SMH.

Posted by: Lola - ALL the 1/6 videotapes from Alexandra and Jade, too. at May 12, 2023 03:42 PM (GshMh)

237 Now, none of what I just posted is likely to happen. But it' definitely happen ahead of beggaring the country to keep Goldman Sachs as a going concern.

Posted by: trev006 at May 12, 2023 03:42 PM (78UcJ)

238 Klaus Schwab old bastard,, Soros old bastard, Kerry carbuncle on the ass of US politics for the last 50 years. Just die already

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 12, 2023 03:42 PM (El6CU)

239 223 The appropriate response to a Baptism is

Hallelujah!
Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 12, 2023 03:40 PM (6VKyY)

I'll add Amen and Awomen to that!

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 12, 2023 03:42 PM (KbCG3)

240 I-uh like-uh, like-uh c-c-c-custard

yeah
Posted by: John Fetterman at May 12, 2023 03:39 PM (vwCZJ)
........

Take your time, John. Eat it slow, swallow completely before you try to talk. I know it's hard, keep it up, we're rooting for you!

Posted by: wth at May 12, 2023 03:42 PM (v0R5T)

241 I once again am going to ask the question that nobody will ever answer when I ask it: "If you could print as much money as you wanted, why would you ever need to borrow any of those dollars from anyone?"
Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at May 12, 2023 03:41 PM (CecP5)

To make us peasants debt and tax slaves to the USSA.

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at May 12, 2023 03:43 PM (Qe1m7)

242 Hey, Anchorbabe, why don’t we get updates from you on the soap floozies anymore?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 12, 2023 03:31 PM (HBgbp)

Haven't had a Big Tit Donna sighting in months.
Nice Bod Brooke hasn't worn anything slinky in a while, since she showed a bit of her pendulous cleavage in a blue nightie a few weeks ago.
And Steffy is preggers in real life, so they are hiding that now.
Scrawny Taylor actually looked good in a pair of Levi's last week, which was surprising.
For the most part, the storyline is getting stale, and I haven't been around the literal boob tube between 1:30p and 2p.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at May 12, 2023 03:43 PM (ufFY8)

243 Just a reminder...Hunter's partners in founding the "policy advisory firm" Rosemont Seneca Partners were Mitt Romney's kid and John Kerry's stepson.

Lurch is a partner in the Biden Family grift.

Posted by: ChickenBoy at May 12, 2023 03:43 PM (uRZ8p)

244 Are we going to do the Kakala drunk-ass speech thing or what?

Posted by: weft-cut loop at May 12, 2023 03:43 PM (jzzG8)

245 Poor Garrett. Crocs and a Eunuch.

Sure hope he's richer than Bill Gates to make up for it all.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 12, 2023 03:44 PM (6VKyY)

246 I'm saved, not nice. ; )

Posted by: SMH at May 12, 2023 03:42 PM (d8qOM)

Whew, thank God for that.

Posted by: ... at May 12, 2023 03:44 PM (z1mje)

247 And the bill sunsets as well. All the bill contains is a block on releasing records for desantis and other State officials travel security arrangements that are held by law enforcement.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 12, 2023 03:41 PM (ncXxy)

Well, of course it sunsets. Wouldn't want the proles to think all these legal exemptions apply to anyone besides Ron DeSantis.

Posted by: trev006 at May 12, 2023 03:44 PM (78UcJ)

248 241 To make us peasants debt and tax slaves to the USSA.
Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at May 12, 2023 03:43 PM (Qe1m7)

=========

Before his election, Obama said that taxation was necessary on rich people because it was punitive in nature, not because it might increase government revenue.

Progressives have been open about this for a long time now.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, on just the weirdest trip with John Boorman at May 12, 2023 03:44 PM (LvTSG)

249 New report details how lab-grown meat "could be 25 times worse for the climate than beef"

https://tinyurl.com/3urze6ya

Posted by: SMH at May 12, 2023 03:44 PM (d8qOM)

250
John Lennon sang something about wanting a "revolution?"

Something?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 12, 2023 03:44 PM (x0n13)

251 The appropriate response to a Baptism is

Hallelujah!
Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 12, 2023 03:40 PM (6VKyY)

"Don't forget to bring a towel."

Man, I'm so high.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 12, 2023 03:44 PM (LNxNy)

252 A premptive move by Congress -
A Resolution stating that John Kerry doesn't have authority to negotiate on behalf of the United States, any agreement with the United States that included John Kerry in any role will be considered null and void by the US House of Representatives, and regardless, any agreement entered into by the US executive is not by US Law a treaty unless it has been ratified by 2/3rds of the US Senate.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at May 12, 2023 03:45 PM (fs1hN)

253 I once again am going to ask the question that nobody will ever answer when I ask it: "If you could print as much money as you wanted, why would you ever need to borrow any of those dollars from anyone?"
Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at May 12, 2023 03:41 PM (CecP5)

Because usurers kill ppl. Recently in World Wars. Before that in Sectarian Wars.

Posted by: Thesokorus at May 12, 2023 03:45 PM (KbwJl)

254 249 New report details how lab-grown meat "could be 25 times worse for the climate than beef"

https://tinyurl.com/3urze6ya
Posted by: SMH at May 12, 2023 03:44 PM (d8qOM)

========

"Doesn't matter. I feel that it's better."
-The Left

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, on just the weirdest trip with John Boorman at May 12, 2023 03:45 PM (LvTSG)

255 "how did my kid get the bubonic plague~???"

@RichSementa 2m
Migrants secretly being housed in PS 188 school gym in Coney Island

Posted by: weft-cut loop at May 12, 2023 03:45 PM (jzzG8)

256 The difference between Hallelujah and Alleluia is that the Hallelujah is used for joyful praise of the Lord, whereas Alleluia is used for traditional chants in the name of the Lord. The term Hallelujah is used by the Jewish religion, whereas Alleluia is more commonly used by the Christian religious people.

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 12, 2023 03:46 PM (4I/2K)

257 It's a do over, of sorts. She pressed the reset button and is respawning her faith.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 12, 2023 03:41 PM (Zz0t1)

SMH is one of the most faithful people I know!

Posted by: ... at May 12, 2023 03:46 PM (z1mje)

258 I was told that replacement theory is a racist conspiracy theory.

https://tinyurl.com/mserx7hc

Black leaders hold massive protest in Chicago against accepting and housing Illegal non-citizens.

'This is not good for the black community.'

Turns out that its acceptable to the left if black people don't want their culture replaced or their numbers displaced by invading illegals.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 12, 2023 03:46 PM (0hOvj)

259 183 I read somewhere recently (and it may have been a sefton morning report link) that the entirety of all federal income taxes received will be required to service interest on the debt by 2035.

It's gonna get sporty soon.
Posted by: Mister Scott
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In the latest budget projection, interest on the debt is equal to the defense budget. And about a third is due to be refinanced at higher interest rates next year.

Posted by: whig at May 12, 2023 03:46 PM (3aLWR)

260 Anbody knows how many Gays our trappered at the bourder and if they be treetyed farely and nots abused by the racist Teaxs natanel Guards.

Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, VT at May 12, 2023 03:46 PM (66jxp)

261 Even assuming recent immigrants would go for that, no chance in hell, why pay back the banksters? Either way, deficit financing is over and no new loans will be made available. So instead you get the alternative:

1) All domestic federal debt is repudiated, period. Foreign federal debt will be negotiated. Creditors who do take a haircut will be repudiated.

2) Absolute embargo on mortgage payments. Anyone with mortgage claims on a primary domicile gets to keep the house. All groups like Blackrock and all absent foreigners get all but one of their properties expropriated without compensation.

3) Citizens in good standing get their loans forgiven. Enemies of the state either pay what is owed or do time.
Posted by: trev006 at May 12, 2023 03:41 PM (78UcJ)
++++
And there's no economy left if they do it. That's full-on collapse. Wheels come off, immediately.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 12, 2023 03:46 PM (DU+/6)

262 At our last youth ministry on Wednesday, we had 18 kids text in that they wanted to get Baptized!

Was an awesome night.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 12, 2023 03:46 PM (6VKyY)

263 New report details how lab-grown meat "could be 25 times worse for the climate than beef"

https://tinyurl.com/3urze6ya
Posted by: SMH at May 12, 2023 03:44 PM (d8qOM)

Horseshit.

Posted by: John Kerry at May 12, 2023 03:47 PM (v0R5T)

264 It's gonna get sporty soon.

Indeed, it will. Those who hope otherwise, good luck.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 12, 2023 03:47 PM (Xrfse)

265 John Lennon sang something about wanting a "revolution?"

Something?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton

He told us to imagine a bunch of shit, too.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 12, 2023 03:47 PM (8V/Ua)

266
SMH is one of the most faithful people I know!
Posted by: ... at May 12, 2023 03:46 PM (z1mje)

Agreed. Nothing wrong with renewing and confirming your devotion to The Lord.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 12, 2023 03:47 PM (Zz0t1)

267 A premptive move by Congress -
A Resolution stating that John Kerry doesn't have authority to negotiate on behalf of the United States, any agreement with the United States that included John Kerry in any role will be considered null and void by the US House of Representatives, and regardless, any agreement entered into by the US executive is not by US Law a treaty unless it has been ratified by 2/3rds of the US Senate.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at May 12, 2023 03:45 PM

Absolutely nothing will happen. I mean the guy was secretly negotiating a Nuclear arms treaty with Iran when trump was president 100% completely outside of any official government authority and no one said a friggin word except trump.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 12, 2023 03:47 PM (ncXxy)

268 Warmest wishes on your Baptism, SMH.
Posted by: Lola - ALL the 1/6 videotapes from Alexandra and Jade, too. at May 12, 2023 03:42 PM (GshMh)

And warm water, too.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 12, 2023 03:47 PM (ufFY8)

269 Migrants secretly being housed in PS 188 school gym in Coney Island
Posted by: weft-cut loop at May 12, 2023 03:45 PM (jzzG

Oh, that's not good, wait, nevermind it's NYC and I don't give a fuck.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 12, 2023 03:47 PM (oINRc)

270 Before his election, Obama said that taxation was necessary on rich people because it was punitive in nature, not because it might increase government revenue.

Progressives have been open about this for a long time now.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, on just the weirdest trip with John Boorman at May 12, 2023 03:44 PM (LvTSG)

They're right. Taxation is necessarily punitive. It just is. It can either be eugenic or dysgenic but it is always punitive.

Posted by: Thesokorus at May 12, 2023 03:47 PM (KbwJl)

271 254 249 New report details how lab-grown meat "could be 25 times worse for the climate than beef"

https://tinyurl.com/3urze6ya
Posted by: SMH at May 12, 2023 03:44 PM (d8qOM)

========

"Doesn't matter. I feel that it's better."
-The Left
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, on just the weirdest trip with John Boorman at May 12, 2023 03:45 PM (LvTSG)

"Now if you'll excuse me, I need to plug in my EV and find somewhere to toss out these defective solar panels."

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 12, 2023 03:48 PM (KbCG3)

272 New report details how lab-grown meat "could be 25 times worse for the climate than beef"

https://tinyurl.com/3urze6ya
Posted by: SMH at May 12, 2023 03:44 PM (d8qOM)

If that's the only sustainable meat replacement on the menu, I'm going for long pork. Likely franchise it, too.

Posted by: trev006 at May 12, 2023 03:48 PM (78UcJ)

273 Are you talking about Kerry? I agree. But my comment was about Schwab.
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 12, 2023 03:12 PM (iFTx/)

Schwad invented a muli-level marketing scheme to supposedly teach the up and coming power players how to fit in and do good in the world exercising the power they were soon to inherit as soon as they paid their dues and agreed to their subordinate position in the new hierarchy. He actually is teaching "how to screw the system and make power for yourself backed up by your allies, here"

Posted by: Kindltot at May 12, 2023 03:48 PM (xhaym)

274 ... 1) All domestic federal debt is repudiated, period. Foreign federal debt will be negotiated. Creditors who do take a haircut will be repudiated. ...
Posted by: trev006 at May 12, 2023 03:41 PM (78UcJ)
++++
If there is to be a repudiation or selective default, it needs to be the other way around. Let the foreigners twist and come invade if they want to try it. The consequences of detonating domestic holdings might actually be enough to threaten the ruling class enough that they wouldn't try it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 12, 2023 03:48 PM (DU+/6)

275 time for a tea party at kerry's yacht. docketed in RI to avoid Mass taxes.

Posted by: gov't here to help at May 12, 2023 03:48 PM (A2/pW)

276 Anbody knows how many Gays our trappered at the bourder and if they be treetyed farely and nots abused by the racist Teaxs natanel Guards.
Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, VT at May 12, 2023 03:46 PM (66jxp)

Don't EVER change, Mary.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 12, 2023 03:49 PM (Zz0t1)

277 Gorgeous day outside.

There is nothing normal about people walking outside, by themselves, wearing a mask. I am fast becoming afraid of those people. They are permanently damaged.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 12, 2023 03:49 PM (yEK4M)

278 Off topic.

Philly Inquirer News, April '23: Moms for Liberty is convening this summer in Philly, a backdrop for the group's focus on "preserving American Values" PA has the second-most members, next to FL, where the group was founded in 2021. (Moms for Liberty leaders said they hoped to draw 650 people to the Philadelphia summit.)

The article began, "Moms for Liberty, the controversial parent group whose members have confronted school boards and spearheaded book challenges and fights against diversity education, has chosen Philadelphia as the host city for its national summit this summer." (Planned for June 29 thru July 2 at the Marriott Downtown). Today the Inquirer also reported: Members of ACT UP Philadelphia — an AIDS activism group — and other advocates plan to rally Friday at 4 p.m. outside the hotel. Activists are also urging people to call the Marriott and demand that it “stop hosting hate,” and do its part to keep our schoolchildren safe.”

This has now turned into quite the local hooha. This today; Sanders, AOC & Taylor Swift this weekend & the 2023 PA Primary - with hundreds of school board seats up for grabs - Tuesday.

Posted by: Lola - ALL the 1/6 videotapes from Alexandra and Jade, too. at May 12, 2023 03:49 PM (GshMh)

279 Thanks, y'all.

Posted by: SMH at May 12, 2023 03:49 PM (d8qOM)

280 256 I think Handel used “Hallelujah,” no?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 12, 2023 03:49 PM (HBgbp)

281 Well, of course it sunsets. Wouldn't want the proles to think all these legal exemptions apply to anyone besides Ron DeSantis.
Posted by: trev006 at May 12, 2023 03:44 PM (78UcJ)

Florida has a sunset rule, I think.
I may be wrong, but I think just about everything passed has sunset provisions.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 12, 2023 03:49 PM (ufFY8)

282 And the bill sunsets as well. All the bill contains is a block on releasing records for desantis and other State officials travel security arrangements that are held by law enforcement.

The anti desantis people have lit the gaslight over this bill.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 12, 2023 03:41 PM (ncXxy)

You know who else sunset all his bills...

As was rather fond of lighting gas too.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 12, 2023 03:49 PM (LNxNy)

283 Let it 🔥

Posted by: SOMEASSHOLESTOLEMYPEN at May 12, 2023 03:49 PM (ztQ7U)

284 Bucket list item--living long enough to piss on Kerry's grave.

Do believe I may have some company there.

Posted by: irongrampa at May 12, 2023 03:50 PM (KATBx)

285 Horseshit.
Posted by: John Kerry at May 12, 2023 03:47 PM (v0R5T)

In my case it's peopleshit, but i got A Guy for that. You should get one too! Paid for, and everything! No joke!

Posted by: FJB at May 12, 2023 03:50 PM (9UlRk)

286 Man, I am much cooler here than I am in my real life.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 12, 2023 03:34 PM (DU+/6)

I know, right? IRL I am a dog. Woof.

Mixed breed, "some sort of hound, maybe some black lab"

Posted by: Kindltot at May 12, 2023 03:50 PM (xhaym)

287 What if I told you

That money is only real for the little people.

Posted by: ... at May 12, 2023 03:50 PM (z1mje)

288 Bucket list item--living long enough to piss on Kerry's grave.

Do believe I may have some company there.
Posted by: irongrampa at May 12, 2023 03:50 PM (KATBx)

Sign up now for FastPass.

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 12, 2023 03:50 PM (4I/2K)

289 21 But Kerry’s got all those medals! We saw them at the Coronation! So he must be a hero!

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 12, 2023 03:03 PM (HBgbp)

Hey, he got a cut on his arm that almost needed stitches and some rice blown up his ass. That should count for something.

Posted by: Kerry's Hat at May 12, 2023 03:51 PM (B0dPg)

290 And there's no economy left if they do it. That's full-on collapse. Wheels come off, immediately.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 12, 2023 03:46 PM (DU+/6)

There's only the actual economy left. And the resulting boom would be fantastic.

I'd do it diff than trev but his ideas would work.

Posted by: Thesokorus at May 12, 2023 03:51 PM (KbwJl)

291 281 Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 12, 2023 03:49 PM (ufFY

Florida passed Sunshine laws as a matter of publiuc record period in the 70s.

The proclivity for sunsets in Florida law is more of a tradition than law I think.

Posted by: sven at May 12, 2023 03:51 PM (X0I7i)

292 284 Bucket list item--living long enough to piss on Kerry's grave.

Do believe I may have some company there.
Posted by: irongrampa at May 12, 2023 03:50 PM (KATBx

If you go to a cemetery and the grass around the grave is dead, you know they were assholes in life.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 12, 2023 03:51 PM (6VKyY)

293 Getting baptized Sunday.

Awesome. Something my folks never thought was necessary. I need to get that in motion for myself, ASAP.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 12, 2023 03:52 PM (Xrfse)

294 There's only the actual economy left. And the resulting boom would be fantastic.

I'd do it diff than trev but his ideas would work.
Posted by: Thesokorus at May 12, 2023 03:51 PM (KbwJl)
++++
Assuming that people can remain fed and some of the stuff can be replaced, it's possible that ripping off the band-aid, doing a jubilee, and reissuing new currency could result in a mega-boom about five years down the line.

But the odds are probably better that it results in outright collapse. Like actual colander facemask collapse.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 12, 2023 03:52 PM (DU+/6)

295 And there's no economy left if they do it. That's full-on collapse. Wheels come off, immediately.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 12, 2023 03:46 PM (DU+/6)

Yup. A lot of people's careers who depend on paper shuffling will be over, the bennies crowd will immediately start sieging the cities for basic necessities, and pensioners will need to be looked after by the people immediately surrounding them.

I do wonder if COVID wasn't fundamentally a test run for all of this, but it also doesn't matter. The Goldman/ BlackRock types are moronically greedy pieces of shit who want every dime they're owed, and the country is full of people who want them paid back in bullets. The American empire depends on "stability" to stay remotely solvent. Financial setbacks cause diplomatic crises, which cause military retreats, which cause financial setbacks. Repeat until you strike the core of society.

Posted by: trev006 at May 12, 2023 03:53 PM (78UcJ)

296 Anbody knows how many Gays our trappered at the bourder and if they be treetyed farely and nots abused by the racist Teaxs natanel Guards.
Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, VT at May 12, 2023 03:46 PM (66jxp)
........

Oodles and oodles of them no doubt. And bi's, trannies, etc.
The place looks like a Liberace funeral being crashed by Texans. That's why you must take 3 or 4 of them into your house, Mary.

Posted by: wth at May 12, 2023 03:54 PM (v0R5T)

297 First Space Force VA claim:

https://tinyurl.com/2s4x829f

Posted by: SMH at May 12, 2023 03:54 PM (d8qOM)

298 290 And there's no economy left if they do it. That's full-on collapse. Wheels come off, immediately.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 12, 2023 03:46 PM (DU+/6)

There's only the actual economy left. And the resulting boom would be fantastic.

I'd do it diff than trev but his ideas would work.
Posted by: Thesokorus at May 12, 2023 03:51 PM (KbwJl)

Repudiating the debt would mean a banking collapse. Getting capital from person A to person B is a pretty important function.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at May 12, 2023 03:54 PM (eYoxG)

299 The proclivity for sunsets in Florida law is more of a tradition than law I think.
Posted by: sven at May 12, 2023 03:51 PM (X0I7i)

Yeah, that's why I said 'rule', since prior legislatures cannot bind future ones. Your description is more accurate.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 12, 2023 03:55 PM (ufFY8)

300 294 But the odds are probably better that it results in outright collapse. Like actual colander facemask collapse.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 12, 2023 03:52 PM (DU+/6)

=========

See, this is something I do not understand.

If the feds collapse, the effect is going to be primarily monetary in nature, right? The currency will collapse but the existing infrastructure to manufacture energy, food, and everything else will still exist. In fact, there will be incredible regulatory burden removed almost instantly from all industries across the nation.

A means of exchange will need to be established for the interaction between industry and the consumer, and banks will have a problem coming up with ways to gauge proper interest rates, I assume. However, the mechanisms of everything else will still be standing.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, on just the weirdest trip with John Boorman at May 12, 2023 03:55 PM (LvTSG)

301 Getting baptized Sunday.
Posted by: SMH

Congratulations!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 12, 2023 03:55 PM (z5Neb)

302 In my case it's peopleshit, but i got A Guy for that. You should get one too! Paid for, and everything! No joke!
Posted by: FJB at May 12, 2023 03:50 PM (9UlRk)

One of my favorite Brandon Moments was when he got off Marine One and told the press gaggle "uuuh uhh muh butt's been wiped uhhh uh."

Ever since then, I've imagined the little ruling class maggot whose shitstain daddy paid $250k to Georgetown U for his tuition, all so he could wipe down that old crook's phlebitic poopsluice on a helicopter. And I laugh.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 12, 2023 03:55 PM (oINRc)

303 See, this is something I do not understand.

If the feds collapse, the effect is going to be primarily monetary in nature, right? The currency will collapse but the existing infrastructure to manufacture energy, food, and everything else will still exist. In fact, there will be incredible regulatory burden removed almost instantly from all industries across the nation.

A means of exchange will need to be established for the interaction between industry and the consumer, and banks will have a problem coming up with ways to gauge proper interest rates, I assume. However, the mechanisms of everything else will still be standing.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, on just the weirdest trip with John Boorman at May 12, 2023 03:55 PM (LvTSG)

Well, they would've been if not for the repeal of Net Neutrality and Trump's tax cuts.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 12, 2023 03:56 PM (KbCG3)

304 Anbody knows how many Gays our trappered at the bourder and if they be treetyed farely and nots abused by the racist Teaxs natanel Guards.
Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, VT at May 12, 2023 03:46 PM (66jxp)

Don't EVER change, Mary.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 12, 2023 03:49 PM (Zz0t1)
.........

A spelling lesson wouldn't hurt.

Posted by: wth at May 12, 2023 03:56 PM (v0R5T)

305 Gorgeous day outside. There is nothing normal about people walking outside, by themselves, wearing a mask. I am fast becoming afraid of those people. They are permanently damaged. Posted by: nurse ratched

The Maskers are destined to become Joe Biden's official denunciators in the green new future.

Posted by: Lost In Space at May 12, 2023 03:57 PM (iGfKR)

306 You know, maybe stopping all NEW bennies and EBT shit would help both the debt, and the Invasion.
For sure though, illegal aliens should NOT be receiving ANY benefits.

Don't get me started, LOL.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 12, 2023 03:57 PM (ufFY8)

307 294 There's only the actual economy left. And the resulting boom would be fantastic.

I'd do it diff than trev but his ideas would work.
Posted by: Thesokorus at May 12, 2023 03:51 PM (KbwJl)
++++
Assuming that people can remain fed and some of the stuff can be replaced, it's possible that ripping off the band-aid, doing a jubilee, and reissuing new currency could result in a mega-boom about five years down the line.

But the odds are probably better that it results in outright collapse. Like actual colander facemask collapse.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 12, 2023 03:52 PM (DU+/6)

It would seem nigh impossible to restore enough trust to do any form of business in a reasonable timeframe.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at May 12, 2023 03:58 PM (eYoxG)

308 Gigolo Kerry nailed the gold digging widow of a rich republican senator. Otherwise his only claim to fame would have been lying about braver men than he.

Posted by: Cosda at May 12, 2023 03:58 PM (T9WTz)

309 A spelling lesson wouldn't hurt.
Where.
In THE HELL.
Do you think you are?

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at May 12, 2023 03:58 PM (jYCXf)

310 If the feds collapse, the effect is going to be primarily monetary in nature, right? The currency will collapse but the existing infrastructure to manufacture energy, food, and everything else will still exist. In fact, there will be incredible regulatory burden removed almost instantly from all industries across the nation.

A means of exchange will need to be established for the interaction between industry and the consumer, and banks will have a problem coming up with ways to gauge proper interest rates, I assume. However, the mechanisms of everything else will still be standing.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Chicom bucks.

Posted by: Lost In Space at May 12, 2023 03:59 PM (iGfKR)

311 A means of exchange will need to be established for the interaction between industry and the consumer, and banks will have a problem coming up with ways to gauge proper interest rates, I assume. However, the mechanisms of everything else will still be standing.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, on just the weirdest trip with John Boorman at May 12, 2023 03:55 PM (LvTSG)

There may be an issue in getting hands on actual cash to trade with, assuming electronic transfers are impossible. Heard somewhere that there exists only a few percentage points of actual currency out there.
Did I hear that here?

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 12, 2023 04:00 PM (ufFY8)

312 Chicom bucks.
Posted by: Lost In Space at May 12, 2023 03:59 PM (iGfKR)

Which are pegged to the us dollar

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 12, 2023 04:00 PM (9UlRk)

313 A means of exchange will need to be established for the interaction between industry and the consumer, and banks will have a problem coming up with ways to gauge proper interest rates, I assume. However, the mechanisms of everything else will still be standing.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, on just the weirdest trip with John Boorman at May 12, 2023 03:55 PM (LvTSG)

That last paragraph there is really kind of a showstopper.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at May 12, 2023 04:00 PM (ZSK0i)

314 311 There may be an issue in getting hands on actual cash to trade with, assuming electronic transfers are impossible. Heard somewhere that there exists only a few percentage points of actual currency out there.
Did I hear that here?
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 12, 2023 04:00 PM (ufFY

=======

Assuming all old currency is worthless, new stuff will have to be agreed upon. Maybe it's clamshells, I dunno, but it seems like a smallish problem in the scheme of problems facing such a future.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, on just the weirdest trip with John Boorman at May 12, 2023 04:01 PM (LvTSG)

315 159 Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis signed a bill into law Thursday that would hide records about his past and future travel, as well as powerful people he meets with

The records hidden appear to be transportation and security details.

https://bityl.co/Iefv
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at May 12, 2023 03:26 PM (aD39U)

And pertains to records held by law enforcement agencies responsible for providing security.

Note: If BI and the lot are screaming bloody murder, that may be a hint that bullshit is inbound.

Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free Republic of Florida at May 12, 2023 04:01 PM (MkuC5)

316 If there is to be a repudiation or selective default, it needs to be the other way around. Let the foreigners twist and come invade if they want to try it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 12, 2023 03:48 PM (DU+/6)

To the extent China hasn't already invaded, they'll take that action. It's to make sure the Chinese don't vaporize American forces in Japan or Korea that I would be ready to negotiate with them. But the realistic notion is total American withdrawal to the homeland, assuming the military units don't go rogue and set up where they are.

There will be major collapse under my plan, of course, but at least it's plausibly managed. America already needs election theft to stay remotely unified in plush times. Eisenhower as dictator couldn't hold a country facing corporate austerity together, and that's assuming he will have a completely united military force. Which isn't going to happen, unless you think otherwise.

Posted by: trev006 at May 12, 2023 04:01 PM (78UcJ)

317 ... A means of exchange will need to be established for the interaction between industry and the consumer, and banks will have a problem coming up with ways to gauge proper interest rates, I assume. However, the mechanisms of everything else will still be standing.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, on just the weirdest trip with John Boorman at May 12, 2023 03:55 PM (LvTSG)
++++
On paper, but people waking up to find that their money is *gone* is extremely disruptive. The working capital dwindles quickly. Transportation becomes a serious problem. The physical infrastructure is still there (for a while - until it is looted and consumed like in South Africa), yes, but owned and operated by whom? How do you bring in goods or send them out? With the looting that would go on, you'll need your own army. When the food supplies break down - and they will, at least for a short time - the murder ramps up dramatically.

Collapse *sucks.* Which is why orderly bankruptcy - something we prevented in 2001, 2009 and 2020 - is so important. It smooths it all out.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 12, 2023 04:01 PM (DU+/6)

318 300
See, this is something I do not understand.

If the feds collapse, the effect is going to be primarily monetary in nature, right? The currency will collapse but the existing infrastructure to manufacture energy, food, and everything else will still exist. In fact, there will be incredible regulatory burden removed almost instantly from all industries across the nation.

A means of exchange will need to be established for the interaction between industry and the consumer, and banks will have a problem coming up with ways to gauge proper interest rates, I assume. However, the mechanisms of everything else will still be standing.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, on just the weirdest trip with John Boorman at May 12, 2023 03:55 PM (LvTSG)

It's the unwinding and immediate transactions that present an issue. It's hard to determine who owns what in the case of the federal government defaulting. As it throws a lot of other people into default. Same issue that exists with bankruptcy court except on a massive scale.

After people lose everything in their 401ks and bank accounts, it's also harder to do business for a while.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at May 12, 2023 04:02 PM (eYoxG)

319 Our reset currency should be marbles, that way that saying finally makes sense.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 12, 2023 04:02 PM (6VKyY)

320 A means of exchange will need to be established for the interaction between industry and the consumer,
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Might be a bit rough on those places that will not accept cash.
I'm okay with that outcome...

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 12, 2023 04:02 PM (z5Neb)

321 NOOD Kamala

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at May 12, 2023 04:03 PM (ZSK0i)

322 Assuming all old currency is worthless, new stuff will have to be agreed upon. Maybe it's clamshells, I dunno, but it seems like a smallish problem in the scheme of problems facing such a future.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, on just the weirdest trip with John Boorman at May 12, 2023 04:01 PM (LvTSG)

Nuka-Cola bottle caps

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 12, 2023 04:03 PM (ufFY8)

323
There may be an issue in getting hands on actual cash to trade with, assuming electronic transfers are impossible. Heard somewhere that there exists only a few percentage points of actual currency out there.
Did I hear that here?
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 12, 2023 04:00 PM (ufFY

Who would necessarily trust "actual cash" as well? In most scenarios with this kind of collapse, you end up trying to operate with foreign currency as much as possible. Like USD in Zimbabwe or Venezuela.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at May 12, 2023 04:04 PM (eYoxG)

324 A means of exchange will need to be established for the interaction between industry and the consumer, and banks will have a problem coming up with ways to gauge proper interest rates, I assume. However, the mechanisms of everything else will still be standing.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

It is interesting. When Argentina collapsed the second time they reset and pegged the peso to the USD with hard demands for national reserves, which worked until the government decided they needed more latitude and they are now in the same hole they have always been, every twenty to forty years.

fiat creates bubbles which cause collapses which cause defaults. Please remember: inflation, repudiations, haircuts and re-valuing are all defaults on the stated debt. The only difference is why they tell you they aren't paying you what you agreed they owed you.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 12, 2023 04:05 PM (xhaym)

325 310 If the feds collapse, the effect is going to be primarily monetary in nature, right? The currency will collapse but the existing infrastructure to manufacture energy, food, and everything else will still exist. In fact, there will be incredible regulatory burden removed almost instantly from all industries across the nation.

A means of exchange will need to be established for the interaction between industry and the consumer, and banks will have a problem coming up with ways to gauge proper interest rates, I assume. However, the mechanisms of everything else will still be standing.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Chicom bucks.

Posted by: Lost In Space at May 12, 2023 03:59 PM (iGfKR)

Bug paste and Soylent Green chips.

Posted by: Gref at May 12, 2023 04:06 PM (AMIL/)

326 Chicom bucks.
Posted by: Lost In Space at May 12, 2023 03:59 PM (iGfKR)

Which are pegged to the us dollar
Posted by: Warai-otoko

Not a problem if the US is a de facto colony.

Posted by: Lost In Space at May 12, 2023 04:06 PM (iGfKR)

327 Can I get me a bribery license here?

Posted by: John Kerry at May 12, 2023 04:06 PM (SYTee)

328 On paper, but people waking up to find that their money is *gone* is extremely disruptive. The working capital dwindles quickly. Transportation becomes a serious problem. The physical infrastructure is still there (for a while - until it is looted and consumed like in South Africa), yes, but owned and operated by whom? How do you bring in goods or send them out? With the looting that would go on, you'll need your own army. When the food supplies break down - and they will, at least for a short time - the murder ramps up dramatically.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 12, 2023 04:01 PM (DU+/6)

All good questions- the answer is that communities would collapse to the most local levels of trust immediately. Groups and communities that survive would be the ones who can get the most guns protecting them immediately. Regions with lots of commodities would do the best. Anywhere with major cities would be in for absolute hell.

But then, a successful American warlord would be doing everything within their power to poison and destroy the cities, because they are filled with implacable opponents.

Posted by: trev006 at May 12, 2023 04:07 PM (78UcJ)

329 fiat creates bubbles which cause collapses which cause defaults. Please remember: inflation, repudiations, haircuts and re-valuing are all defaults on the stated debt. The only difference is why they tell you they aren't paying you what you agreed they owed you.
Posted by: Kindltot at May 12, 2023 04:05 PM (xhaym)

Re-valuing phys gold is not a default because US phys gold is priced massively below fair mkt value.

Posted by: Thesokorus at May 12, 2023 04:08 PM (KbwJl)

330 It would seem nigh impossible to restore enough trust to do any form of business in a reasonable timeframe.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at May 12, 2023 03:58 PM (eYoxG)

Germany, Argentina and even Brazil at times have pulled back from chaos, but they had to have a hard currency and belief that the central bank would not start playing games again.

One of the things that pulled England out of debt after the Napoleonic wars were the Peel bank reform acts, which required full reserve of all assets outside of demand deposits

Posted by: Kindltot at May 12, 2023 04:10 PM (xhaym)

331 329 fiat creates bubbles which cause collapses which cause defaults. Please remember: inflation, repudiations, haircuts and re-valuing are all defaults on the stated debt. The only difference is why they tell you they aren't paying you what you agreed they owed you.
Posted by: Kindltot at May 12, 2023 04:05 PM (xhaym)

Re-valuing phys gold is not a default because US phys gold is priced massively below fair mkt value.
Posted by: Thesokorus at May 12, 2023 04:08 PM (KbwJl)

The value of gold would fall relative to most goods. It might rise in dollar terms, but everything else would rise more. Smugglers could make a hell of a profit by buying it cheap in the US(after collapse) and exporting it to a stable country. Just like exporting diamonds and gold from Africa.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at May 12, 2023 04:11 PM (eYoxG)

332 Re-valuing phys gold is not a default because US phys gold is priced massively below fair mkt value.
Posted by: Thesokorus at May 12, 2023 04:08 PM (KbwJl)

Not really, they were "promising" to pay forty-some-odd against the ounce and if they change that they will be going back on the promise as well. It is a haircut, if only a hypothetical one.
(also do you think that gold is not promised out already?)
We didn't get here because we misvalued gold, we got here by creating unfunded debt and selling the promise to pay it back to anyone who would take it.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 12, 2023 04:12 PM (xhaym)

333 Smugglers could make a hell of a profit by buying it cheap in the US(after collapse) and exporting it to a stable country. Just like exporting diamonds and gold from Africa.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at May 12, 2023 04:11 PM (eYoxG)

Absolutely. Of course, they'd have problems within their own countries. So it'd be a roll of the dice to see who survives.

Posted by: trev006 at May 12, 2023 04:13 PM (78UcJ)

334 The value of gold is just as subjective as the value of the dollar, you're just adding a step in.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 12, 2023 04:18 PM (0hOvj)

335 We didn't get here because we misvalued gold, we got here by creating unfunded debt and selling the promise to pay it back to anyone who would take it.
Posted by: Kindltot at May 12, 2023 04:12 PM (xhaym)

Who gets the haircut if US re-values its gold to fmv? Fmv is sig in excess of current price. Massively so.

Posted by: Thesokorus at May 12, 2023 04:19 PM (KbwJl)

336 334 The value of gold is just as subjective as the value of the dollar, you're just adding a step in.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 12, 2023 04:18 PM (0hOvj)

I don't follow you, sorry.

Posted by: Thesokorus at May 12, 2023 04:20 PM (KbwJl)

337 I don't follow you, sorry.

The argument for going to the gold standard (which, we cannot do) is that the value of the dollar is arbitrary, its not based on anything tangible and real. Instead, its based on the perceived value of the US economy and the whim of currency traders. Which is all true.

But so is gold. The value of gold is not magically set in stone, God has not give us how much gold is worth. Its also arbitrary, set by traders, and subject to the perceived value of the commodity.

Going on the gold standard does not change that, it just puts the dollar value one step removed.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 12, 2023 04:22 PM (0hOvj)

338 Going on the gold standard does not change that, it just puts the dollar value one step removed.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 12, 2023 04:22 PM (0hOvj)

Ah. I think phys gold will be re-valued as an asset. Nothing to do with backing any currency. But you may not have been reaponding to me.

Posted by: Thesokorus at May 12, 2023 04:25 PM (KbwJl)

339 Re-valuing phys gold is not a default because US phys gold is priced massively below fair mkt value.
Posted by: Thesokorus at May 12, 2023 04:08 PM (KbwJl)

What number would you need to revalue the gold at? Remember, if you take the number seriously then people will insist on trading gold for rapidly imploding Americadollars. If the government isn't making that trade, or doesn't plan to make gold for dollar trade a regular thing, that's not the real value of the gold. Either way, you'd still get the massive inflation expected in total collapse.

Posted by: trev006 at May 12, 2023 04:26 PM (78UcJ)

340 revalue the gold at? Remember, if you take the number seriously then people will insist on trading gold for rapidly imploding Americadollars. If the government isn't making that trade, or doesn't plan to make gold for dollar trade a regular thing, that's not the real value of the gold. Either way, you'd still get the massive inflation expected in total collapse.
Posted by: trev006 at May 12, 2023 04:26 PM (78UcJ)

Gold is increasing in value because the UST is not attractive as a global reserve asset for those nations seeking to trade outside the USD system. This trend is increasing.

US gold is hugely underpriced (untentionally) and growing more so.

The US is unable to use this huge amnt of "value".

Re-valuing gold to something in excess of $20k USD/oz unlocks it. Or just letting it float per fmv does same thing.

Any possible sale is discretionary depending on utility. As with any US asset.

Posted by: Thesokorus at May 12, 2023 04:34 PM (KbwJl)

341 Re-valuing gold to something in excess of $20k USD/oz unlocks it. Or just letting it float per fmv does same thing.

Any possible sale is discretionary depending on utility. As with any US asset.

Posted by: Thesokorus at May 12, 2023 04:34 PM (KbwJl)

I like the idea, but I highly doubt the US even has more than $4 trillion in gold. Even if they did, the globalists are very likely to steal it and send it to their newest host country before letting Americans use it intelligently.

Posted by: trev006 at May 12, 2023 04:52 PM (78UcJ)

342 Ace: I couldn't be happier than having our stories used for posts at Ace of Spades. But "John Varney?" As the President of the United States might say, "Rufoleseziesent!"

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