Russia Says Ukraine Launched a "Planned Terrorist Attack" at the Kremlin, Attempting to Kill Putin; Russian Spokesman Says the US is Behind It

Remember when Biden told donors (not the public, just his donors) that we were at the closest we've ever been to Armageddon...?

Yeah. About that.

Russia calls the failed drone strike a "planned terrorist attack" -- and blames the US.

The video first appeared in the early hours of Wednesday on Russian social media. The Kremlin was slow to react, eventually releasing a statement calling it a "planned terrorist attack," a deliberate attempt by Ukraine to assassinate Putin, but presenting no evidence.
The president was not injured, the Kremlin stressed, threatening that "Russia reserves the right to take countermeasures, wherever and whenever it deems appropriate."
The denial from Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky was swift: "We don't attack Putin or Moscow; we fight on our territory."

A former senior US diplomat called that significant: after several previous mysterious attacks inside Russia, Ukrainian officials have wryly denied knowing anything about it.
"This," the former diplomat said, "was definitive."
If the apparent drone attack itself was surreal, questions about how it happened -- and what could come next -- were even more fantastical.

Astonishing footage of last night's drone attack on the Kremlin pic.twitter.com/3rghCHdIed
— Francis Scarr (@francis_scarr) May 3, 2023

Here comes CNN's spin: Russia attacked itself.

When Russia isn't "interfering in US elections," they're blowing up their own infrastructure, according to CNN.

Would Russia carry out the attack itself? In 1999, just months before Putin was elected president for the first time, Russia was hit with a wave of apartment bombings that killed more than 300 people and which then-prime minister Putin cited to justify launching the Second Chechen War.
His tough approach helped him win the presidency, but suspicion still lingers about who really was behind the bombings. With the apparent drone attacks, no one died, and the Kremlin's vaunted security looked feeble, but it gives the Kremlin an opportunity to rally Russians to support Putin against those who would harm him.
Ukraine officials said the attacks might be exploited by Russia to launch even more vicious attacks on Ukraine, including "terrorist" attacks.

The White House denied having any involvement in the attack.

But then, the White House denied any involvement in the Nord Stream attack, too.

The White House on Wednesday denied any involvement in an alleged drone attack on the Kremlin, after Russian spokesman Dmitry Peskov accused Washington of guiding Ukraine to launch the assault.
"We had nothing to do with this," said John Kirby, spokesperson for the White House National Security Council, on MSNBC.
"Peskov is just lying there, pure and simple," he added.
Russia alleges that Ukraine carried out a "terrorist attack" overnight Tuesday into Wednesday with two drones, aiming to kill President Vladimir Putin, a charge which Kyiv has denied.
Throughout its more than year-long offensive in Ukraine, Moscow has maintained that Kyiv is taking orders from Washington -- accusing the West of leading a war against Russia by proxy.
Peskov, Putin's longtime press secretary, said earlier Wednesday that "decisions on such attacks are not made in Kyiv, but in Washington."
"Kyiv only does what it is told to do," he added.

Both Ukraine and Russia report new drone attacks today.

Kyiv and Moscow reported drone attacks Thursday including two that sparked fires in Russian oil refineries, as Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky visited The Hague to lobby for more support.
Zelensky's surprise visit to meet top officials of the International Criminal Court, which has issued an arrest warrant for Russian leader Vladimir Putin, came a day after Moscow accused Kyiv of a drone attack on the Kremlin.
Russia has accused Ukraine of trying to kill Putin, but Zelensky denied his country was behind the Kremlin strike.
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The Ukrainian air force said Thursday that Russia had fired 24 attack drones overnight, of which 18 were downed. Authorities said there were no casualties.
"The invaders launched up to 24 Shahed-136/131 attack drones... The Air Force of Ukraine, in cooperation with other air defence units, shot down 18 attack drones," the air force said on Telegram.
Sergiy Popko, the head of the city of Kyiv's military administration, said that "all enemy missiles and UAVs (unmanned aerial vehicles) were destroyed over Kyiv by air defence forces".
Popko said it was the third day of attempted strikes on Kyiv in May.
"Our city has not experienced such intensity of strikes since the beginning of this year," he said, adding that debris from the downed drones had fallen on different parts of the city but there were no casualties.
Russia on Thursday said a drone attack in the southern Krasnodar region's Ilsky settlement sparked a blaze at an oil refinery.
Krasnodar Governor Veniamin Kondratyev said the refinery fire had been localised to a 400-square-metre (4,300-square-foot) area and was quickly extinguished by emergency services.
Shortly afterwards the governor of Russia's Rostov region, which also borders Ukraine, said a drone had hit a local refinery near the village of Kiselevka and caused an explosion and a fire.

Posted by: Ace at 05:30 PM

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1 I don't get it. Why the hell should I care if a country you invaded tries to off you?

Posted by: Archimedes at May 04, 2023 05:32 PM (eOEVl)

2 They are all liars, don't believe anything.

Posted by: Next2Nothing at May 04, 2023 05:32 PM (tA1/w)

3 The war that's never going to end.

Posted by: redridinghood at May 04, 2023 05:32 PM (NpAcC)

4 Lol. Attacking the government building of a nation you're at war with is terrorism.

K, chief.

Fucking idiots vs. idiots. I'm just rooting for not having to hear about it.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 04, 2023 05:34 PM (9UlRk)

5 So close to pride month?

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko solutions at May 04, 2023 05:34 PM (DLcVA)

6 The war that's never going to end.
Posted by: redridinghood at May 04, 2023 05:32 PM (NpAcC)

Too much graft available as long as it continues.

Posted by: Catherine at May 04, 2023 05:34 PM (ZSsrh)

7 It's grey in here.

Posted by: redridinghood at May 04, 2023 05:34 PM (NpAcC)

8 Big JIPTL fail.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at May 04, 2023 05:34 PM (Qropt)

9 7 It's grey in here.
Posted by: redridinghood at May 04, 2023 05:34 PM (NpAcC)

That's gray, not grey. We're American Morons.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 04, 2023 05:35 PM (/iWhV)

10 If i wanted to watch brain damaged clowns beat each other over the head while talking a bunch of bullshit, I'd turn on C-SPAN.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 04, 2023 05:35 PM (9UlRk)

11 At least in the end, there will be only chaos. So I've heard anyway.

Posted by: Thrawn at May 04, 2023 05:35 PM (Rl7KJ)

12 That's gray, not grey. We're American Morons.

Posted by: Darrell Harris

He said, vigourously.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 04, 2023 05:37 PM (eOEVl)

13 Kim Gardner has resigned.

Posted by: Azathoth at May 04, 2023 05:37 PM (wb1YC)

14 Would Russia attack itself?

Is Russia as corrupt as the United States CIA, NSA and FBI?

Those three entities have been running ops against the United States for decades.

Can't say I expect the Godless Commies to do anything less.

Posted by: Sharkman at May 04, 2023 05:38 PM (xQugk)

15 I'm in the Tucker Carlson and Glen Greenwald camp regarding Russia and Ukraine, but even then, I would say it looks "false flag" to me.

Does the guy that blinked at getting Bin Laden really launch a drone (missile) at the Kremlin that starts WW3?

Posted by: Blago at May 04, 2023 05:39 PM (T4fo0)

16 Ha, you Morons were betting on Murder Hornets part II for May.

But we get cities war redux. Now with the TV power of "drones".

Posted by: DaveA at May 04, 2023 05:39 PM (FhXTo)

17 That was a pretty petite drone strike. It may have scared away some pigeons...

Posted by: gourmand du jour at May 04, 2023 05:40 PM (jTmQV)

18 I watched the 9 second video.

So, if it's real, it's definitely a false flag by Russia. Why, I have no idea, but you don't attack a flag pole and not a building, and you don't do it with firepower that looks like the amount of a sparkler...

UNLESS, you just wanted to prove a point, but not actually do something (like, we COULD do this, but we didn't right now)...but that seems like a stretch...

Posted by: Nova Local at May 04, 2023 05:40 PM (exHjb)

19 >Astonishing footage of last night's drone attack on the Kremlin

that's it?
I'm underwhelmed

Posted by: DB - Your friendly Ronco distributor at May 04, 2023 05:40 PM (geLO8)

20 That of the “drone” is pretty lame.

Looks like Putin let out a fart after too much borshch.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 04, 2023 05:40 PM (atmen)

21 Who is this "USA" they keep speaking of?

Posted by: The CIA at May 04, 2023 05:40 PM (bt2PN)

22 Why have we, the United States, and by association, NATO, gotten so emeshed in this war?

I know the standard State policy answers..yada, yada, yada....but what is the end game?

Restoration of the status quo ante? Not very likely.

Some of our serving Top Men! and Women! too have been talking smack about breaking up Russia.
Really? What color is the sky on your world?

Has Ukraine really been a nation state vessel to run corrupt operations through? It has been intimated that Sam Bankman-Fried (remember him?) was helping to launder US Aid money sent to Ukraine back into Democrat party coffers through crypto currency trades.
Literally billions of dollars kicked back.
And of course, the Big Guy gets his 10%.

Posted by: Barnacle Bill the sailor at May 04, 2023 05:40 PM (vcOmj)

23 Drone strike- more like drone prank

Posted by: DB - Your friendly Ronco distributor at May 04, 2023 05:41 PM (geLO8)

24 Obviously, almost everything out of the mouths of DC gangster regime spokescrooks is lies, lies, and more f'n lies. But there are other liars in the world and the little bottle rocket that barely went "poof" above the roof of the Kremlin was even weaker than an air punch you'd seen thrown in a bitch fight between Rachel Levine and Mark Milley. If we tossed that silly firecracker, we got even bigger problems than trannies in the Pentagon.

Posted by: Bamanarama at May 04, 2023 05:41 PM (zV1uM)

25 Meh. At this stage of the game, I trust the Kremlin more than DC.

Posted by: Fool Otto at May 04, 2023 05:41 PM (DB16e)

26 The same fucking rabid Khazarian tribals who claimed Russia blew up Nordstream are trying the same lie on again.

I do want Trump to be President in 2024, but I'll settle for New York City being roasted to ash before the American survivors set about to hunting down all the people who assured us Russia was a gas station with nukes.

Posted by: trev006 at May 04, 2023 05:41 PM (78UcJ)

27 the Kremlin was able to prevent whoever WAS operating that drone from controlling it - that's why it looked so wonky.

as far as whose drone it was, wouldn't surprise me if it was us or we pushed Poland or someone to do it. honestly at this point the US is total Clown World so who the hell knows

Posted by: BlackOrchid at May 04, 2023 05:42 PM (w0NJk)

28

Wow, this is a tricky question I desperately want to get to the bottom of.

....I have time in my calendar in July, 2093.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at May 04, 2023 05:42 PM (mZOHK)

29

If I end up dying in slow agony from radiation poisoning and mutant cannibal gang rape, I'm gonna be so pissed...

Posted by: Dr Nick Riviera at May 04, 2023 05:42 PM (hH44k)

30 Wonder if/when and how Russia will hit us. An attack on the Capitol, an appropriate response would be unnerving, but deserved.

Is there such a thing as SPF 1million?

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 04, 2023 05:42 PM (Q4IgG)

31 Does it have all the earmarks?

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 04, 2023 05:42 PM (DhOHl)

32 Everything is an op

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at May 04, 2023 05:42 PM (flINI)

33 Late day color schemes are.
Well, they are for a while.

Posted by: micky at May 04, 2023 05:42 PM (3byMq)

34 Is Putin’s hot gymnast baby momma still hiding out in a Siberian bunker?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 04, 2023 05:43 PM (atmen)

35 from the last:

nood where all the NeverTrump fags can suck Putin's dick

/// fyi lolllzzz

Posted by: sockamster, gator at May 04, 2023 05:43 PM (MLrvz)

36
Slow motion WWIII.

:: Bumps dosimeter to top of Amazon 'Wish List' ::

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 04, 2023 05:43 PM (enJYY)

37 dude, I do not want this wWIII they're psuhing.

Posted by: sockamster, gator at May 04, 2023 05:43 PM (MLrvz)

38 Corrupt asshole politicians, corrupt asshole government functionaries, corrupt asshole media.

And you can't believe or trust any of them.

Truth is dying on the vine.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 04, 2023 05:43 PM (CZBWZ)

39 I really don't care. There aren't any good guys in this war. And that includes the US.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at May 04, 2023 05:44 PM (BdMk6)

40 The denial from Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky was swift: "We don't attack Putin or Moscow; we fight on our territory."

Ooh, boy. He's going to burn some bridges with that one.

Posted by: t-bird at May 04, 2023 05:44 PM (e2onP)

41 So, basically, I should not bother installing the kitchen cabinets that were delivered this morning?

Cuz I'm okay with that.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Trailer Trash Adjacent at May 04, 2023 05:45 PM (T/Lqj)

42 The US fired the 4 star head of the Air Force for saying that an attack in Iraq was intended to decapitate the government.

Russia is playing by US rules here, trying to get the US on the hypocrisy.

This is a dangerous game, though, all around. They can send long range missiles to Kyiv.

Admiral Painter knows the deal.

Posted by: blaster at May 04, 2023 05:45 PM (pwExq)

43 Andrew Weismann is very excited about the PB 'seditious conspiracy' rulings. Julie Kelly on with Bannon right meow

Posted by: micky at May 04, 2023 05:45 PM (3byMq)

44 30 Is there such a thing as SPF 1million?

No. Are your iodine tablets up to date ?

Posted by: Next2Nothing at May 04, 2023 05:45 PM (tA1/w)

45 It's a pity they can't both lose. (H/T: Kissinger)

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 04, 2023 05:45 PM (DhOHl)

46 The US National Report Card on Academics. It is as bad as you guess. Our window for International Power has closed. Take about 5yrs to manifest. No wonder Nat Sec State wants to wreck the whole world.

https://www.nationsreportcard.gov

/highlights/mathematics/2022/

Posted by: Thesokorus at May 04, 2023 05:46 PM (KFJEU)

47 Wait wait wait.... NeverTrump Fags got traded to the Putin's Dick Suckers?

Dammit all and back again. I always miss the news from the trade deadline. My fantasy lineup is fucked now.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 04, 2023 05:46 PM (9UlRk)

48 I think I recognize that munition. You can find it any fireworks stand.

Posted by: WisRich at May 04, 2023 05:46 PM (qKfc+)

49 Here comes CNN's spin: Russia attacked itself.

Bleh. Folks here, at first, tried to sell why Russia would blow up their own pipeline to Europe. And they believed it when they said it. Because Russia Bad.

On one hand, trying to rekindle the Cold War is smart. The current regime will get certain Boomer segments on board at "Cold War".

I'll continue to observe and state - certain elements of the Obama regime miss WW II. They'd like to assign labor. Ration items directly. And they'd certainly appreciate it if we all just sang the songs and saluted their rainbow flags.

Which, again, will make certain Boomer segments happy.

Posted by: Mentioned in Mayfair at May 04, 2023 05:46 PM (JYyI2)

50 What you all worried about. In case of war with russia or china, our new trans navy will take care of everything

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 04, 2023 05:47 PM (Irn0L)

51 Is Russia as corrupt as the United States CIA, NSA and FBI?

Those three entities have been running ops against the United States for decades.

Can't say I expect the Godless Commies to do anything less.
Posted by: Sharkman

The CIA, FBI and NSA ARE godless commies.

I think I read (somewhere) that something like 40% of FBI agents were Roman Catholics.
The CIA are really a bunch of criminals.
I think the FBI is actually kind of a dumb organization (as a whole) and the CIA manipulates them constantly to do what they want.
The NSA is so compartmentalized, that nobody knows what the other guy is actually doing. The don't call it the Puzzle Palace for nothing.

Posted by: Barnacle Bill the sailor at May 04, 2023 05:47 PM (vcOmj)

52 The US fired the 4 star head of the Air Force for saying that an attack in Iraq was intended to decapitate the government.

***

I mean, it's not like he said he was going to notify the Chinese if we intended to attack.

Posted by: Azathoth at May 04, 2023 05:47 PM (wb1YC)

53 This was such an incompetently orchestrated drone attack that I absolutely believe it was the US military

I bet it had a picture of Mulvaney painted on it too

Posted by: The Unmasked and Unvaxxed Ranger at May 04, 2023 05:47 PM (VTu1l)

54 Ooh, boy. He's going to burn some bridges with that one.
Posted by: t-bird at May 04, 2023 05:44 PM (e2onP)

Yeah, Zelensky and his fellow nepots are smoking some serious rock if they think a strike on the Kremlin will be treated as No Harm Done. Putin's not known for his placid, forgiving nature.

Posted by: trev006 at May 04, 2023 05:47 PM (78UcJ)

55 Well that was a pretty Week Drone Attack. I have see fireworks more impressive than that.

Posted by: Paladin at May 04, 2023 05:48 PM (7qvpm)

56 "We only fight on our territory" is a catastrophically stupid thing for a commander to say. Which means it's probably a lie.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 04, 2023 05:48 PM (9UlRk)

57 Dang it. This means last night was Russian Drone Strike Eve and I didn't do anything to celebrate.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 04, 2023 05:48 PM (DhOHl)

58 Fox Entertainment News, fair balanced and the conservative thought leader recently adorned in blue eyeshadow, assured me today that Russia attacked itself. Strangely and oddly and peculiarly I'm not buying it.

Posted by: Lost In Space at May 04, 2023 05:48 PM (ighIh)

59 Is there such a thing as SPF 1million?

Are you wearing a properly fitted cloth radiation mask?

Posted by: t-bird at May 04, 2023 05:48 PM (ptElO)

60 Whether it was Russia, the US, or the US vassal state of Ukraine, it was a very underwhelming attack. My only concern is that it's going to be used as a pretext to suck us deeper in.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 04, 2023 05:49 PM (R38qh)

61 57 Dang it. This means last night was Russian Drone Strike Eve and I didn't do anything to celebrate.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 04, 2023 05:48 PM (DhOHl)

They're Orthodox.

Those people do everything on the wrong date.

I wouldn't stress.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 04, 2023 05:49 PM (9UlRk)

62 Send our surplus dancing trannies over to the front lines, to entertain the troops.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at May 04, 2023 05:49 PM (JFSZI)

63
Dezinformatsiya!

Posted by: ShainS at May 04, 2023 05:49 PM (x9jeR)

64 Pug - if you need a hand with the cabinets let me know. I'm replacing mine in a few years so I'd be happy to help and learn the ropes!

Posted by: 496 at May 04, 2023 05:49 PM (2j34C)

65 That drone seems pretty lame.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at May 04, 2023 05:49 PM (ppBhU)

66 Is there such a thing as SPF 1million?

***

Yes, it's made of 300 ft of dirt.

Posted by: Azathoth at May 04, 2023 05:50 PM (wb1YC)

67 The fact is that Putin has been known to do false flag ops. He's quite willing to do damage to peasants in order to advance a narrative. Same, though, goes for the Democrats.

The video is stupid. The "attack" is dumb to even look at. Its the equivalent of someone holding up a shotgun shell and solemnly telling you they were THAT CLOSE to being killed by a ninja sniper with a fifty caliber glock rifle. And the Ninja was a playboy bunny.

Posted by: Inspector Cussword at May 04, 2023 05:50 PM (nC+QA)

68 Kremlin assassination attempt. Hoosker-doos, Hoosker-don'ts.

Posted by: micky at May 04, 2023 05:50 PM (3byMq)

69 13 Kim Gardner has resigned.
Posted by: Azathoth at May 04, 2023 05:37 PM (wb1YC)

//////

So good. She was horrible.

Posted by: JM in Fla/Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at May 04, 2023 05:50 PM (ijfwu)

70 Is there such a thing as SPF 1million?

No. Are your iodine tablets up to date ?

Posted by: Next2Nothing at May 04, 2023 05:45 PM

When we lived upwind of the Millstone Nuke plant in Connecticut they would send us 4 of those iodine tablets every other year, just in case. If you had more than 4 people in your house you could ask for more and they would send them.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 04, 2023 05:50 PM (ncXxy)

71 56 "We only fight on our territory" is a catastrophically stupid thing for a commander to say. Which means it's probably a lie.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 04, 2023 05:48 PM (9UlRk)

Especially after taking credit for attacks on Russian soil and threatening more.

Posted by: blaster at May 04, 2023 05:51 PM (pwExq)

72 Bleh. Folks here, at first, tried to sell why Russia would blow up their own pipeline to Europe. And they believed it when they said it.

************

When it happened I immediately thought either the US blew it up or the UK did, or both and still do

Never thought Russia was behind it because it makes literally no fucking sense

Posted by: The Unmasked and Unvaxxed Ranger at May 04, 2023 05:51 PM (VTu1l)

73 > I think I read (somewhere) that something like 40% of FBI agents were Roman Catholics.

A whole bunch of Feebs and Spooks are Mormon. From what I've heard, there a lot of animus between the Mormons and the Roman Catholics.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 04, 2023 05:52 PM (R38qh)

74 "Lol. Attacking the government building of a nation you're at war with is terrorism."

yeah, I think DeepState goons provoked the war by pushing Kamala to go over and promise Ukraine would be in NATO ... pure provocation. Then Biden says something like "well, as long as Russia just takes a little, it is OK".

Elitists playing games and collecting billions? Getting are old allies to switch to join Russia/China side? wtf.

But still, Russia is constantly bombarding city after city, civilians in the way, no problem, we bomb them too. But a few drones make it into Russia and it is Terrorism, ... the need Greta Thornburg to scold Ukraine "How Dare You".

As long as the big guy keeps getting his 10%, all is well.

Posted by: illiniwek at May 04, 2023 05:52 PM (Cus5s)

75 I can't believe Trump is going to get us into WW III!

Posted by: InZona at May 04, 2023 05:52 PM (E+mhF)

76 Kim Gardner has resigned.
Posted by: Azathoth at May 04, 2023 05:37 PM (wb1YC)

And just like that Fox Entertainment News' 8:00 pm problem is solved!

Posted by: Lost In Space at May 04, 2023 05:52 PM (ighIh)

77 Say, would you happen to have some gray poupon?

Posted by: Bosk at May 04, 2023 05:52 PM (VMFAF)

78 I don't buy that the Ukrainians did this. It's more than likely Russian partisans or yes - even a false flag op by the Russians. The damage to the Kremlin was beyond miniscule but the propaganda value is huge - inside of Russia anyways.

The Ukrainians have been begging and pleading for longer-range western firepower - and have been rebuffed since the west doesn't want to be seen facilitating attacks on Russian soil. Doing something stupid like crashing two quadcopter droves into a Kremlin dome is such a farcically terrible idea that you can't really take it seriously as a real effort to decapitate the Russian political system.

Posted by: Defenestratus at May 04, 2023 05:53 PM (QjdjV)

79 Oh no!

So, anyway....

Posted by: blaster at May 04, 2023 05:53 PM (pwExq)

80 Pug - if you need a hand with the cabinets let me know. I'm replacing mine in a few years so I'd be happy to help and learn the ropes!
Posted by: 496 at May 04, 2023 05:49 PM (2j34C)

thanks. I may hold you to that. LOL. I am more lazy than anything skill-wise. We put new cabinets in our house in Montana years ago. Wasn't terrible. I think the worst part is demolishing the old stuff. Numerous trips to the dump (my truck is a short box).

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Trailer Trash Adjacent at May 04, 2023 05:54 PM (T/Lqj)

81 61 57 Dang it. This means last night was Russian Drone Strike Eve and I didn't do anything to celebrate.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 04, 2023 05:48 PM (DhOHl)

They're Orthodox.

Those people do everything on the wrong date.

I wouldn't stress.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 04, 2023 05:49 PM (9UlRk

Yeah, the celebration will be next week. You still have time to send out invitations

Posted by: Emmie at May 04, 2023 05:54 PM (qxD91)

82
Is there such a thing as SPF 1million?

***

Yes, it's made of 300 ft of dirt.

Posted by: Azathoth at May 04, 2023 05:50 PM

Occasionally some entity runs a bunch of super loud copters from DC across my area to wherever the mountain is in Pennsylvania which is somewhat 'Nuke Proof'. You can hear those summabitches from about a half hour away. Which is pretty much liftoff.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 04, 2023 05:54 PM (enJYY)

83 Never thought Russia was behind it because it makes literally no fucking sense
Posted by: The Unmasked and Unvaxxed Ranger at May 04, 2023 05:51 PM (VTu1l)

If the US hadn't blown up a billion dollar pipeline and claimed it was a Russian false flag, a Kremlin drone would not be itself be an issue. Watching these pompous bloodsuckers frenzy about January 6th, however, you realize that Russia could do ANYTHING to these people in return and be in the right.

The elites in the Hamptons and Whitehall deserve to suffer much, much more than the people they're dragging along to hell.

Posted by: trev006 at May 04, 2023 05:54 PM (78UcJ)

84 Rupert Murdock attacked Russia to juice its ratings.

Posted by: torabora at May 04, 2023 05:55 PM (OUiUM)

85 I have zero doubt Putin would stage an attack on the Kremlin to score political points in the middle of a war that's gone sideways. He did the same kind of shit once before, except much, much worse, and covered it up as crudely as Russianly possible with a spate of murders. And that was just for a tough election campaign.

I also have zero doubt the DC regime would stage an attack on the Kremlin to keep their defense contractor donors shitting in tall cotton, and their various money laundries running at full tilt, cleaning up those kickbacks, and spreading those simoleons to their puppets around the globe. I have seen them, too, do far worse.

Who did it? Who knows? More importantly, who gives a fuck?

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 04, 2023 05:55 PM (oINRc)

86 The war that's never going to end.

Posted by: redridinghood at May 04, 2023 05:32 PM (NpAcC)

-------

Over/under on how many trillions of dollars the U.S. ultimately spends over there, and what majority percentage of it goes straight to the oligarchs' offshore bank accounts -- with 10% for the Big Guy?

Meh, this asshole is out of control. He's out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it ... so there's an escalating probability that the oligarchs will never get to spend their loot ...

Posted by: ShainS at May 04, 2023 05:55 PM (x9jeR)

87 The margins keep embiggening then ensmallening. it's weird.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Trailer Trash Adjacent at May 04, 2023 05:55 PM (T/Lqj)

88 thanks. I may hold you to that. LOL.

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I'm dead serious - I'd love to learn the ropes on that. Just say when.

Posted by: 496 at May 04, 2023 05:55 PM (2j34C)

89 84 Rupert Murdock attacked Russia to juice its ratings.
Posted by: torabora at May 04, 2023 05:55 PM (OUiUM)

So a sequel to "Tomorrow Never Dies".

Posted by: Thrawn at May 04, 2023 05:55 PM (Rl7KJ)

90 Here's my serious take on the drone attack: It was small and not a long range attack. So human controllers close by. Could have been Russian non-fans of Putin, Ukraine supporters, the CIA, or some combination of any or all.

Posted by: blaster at May 04, 2023 05:56 PM (pwExq)

91 Looked like a warning to me. From who though ?

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at May 04, 2023 05:56 PM (NtVYv)

92 73 > I think I read (somewhere) that something like 40% of FBI agents were Roman Catholics.

A whole bunch of Feebs and Spooks are Mormon. From what I've heard, there a lot of animus between the Mormons and the Roman Catholics.
==
Next you're gonna say they should have their own schools!

Posted by: Obligatory Seinfeld reference at May 04, 2023 05:56 PM (DhOHl)

93 Based on the video, I've seen bigger booms using tannerite at family get togethers.

Posted by: Azathoth at May 04, 2023 05:56 PM (wb1YC)

94 ...! Holy shitballs, I just decided i'd watch that video for the hell of it....

The damned flag barely even moved in the breeze!

It looked like some kind of SCTV spoof or something...

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 04, 2023 05:57 PM (9UlRk)

95 Ace is probably grabbing a bite for dinner.

Posted by: redridinghood at May 04, 2023 05:57 PM (NpAcC)

96 No. Are your iodine tablets up to date ?

Actually, yes.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 04, 2023 05:57 PM (Cay8n)

97 That looks like a wimpy pyrotechnic.

Posted by: SamE at May 04, 2023 05:57 PM (DMW5B)

98 I saw that news about Ukraine droning Putin on NHK news yesterday

Can you imagine a drone going boom over the WH?

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at May 04, 2023 05:58 PM (zHbcl)

99 Rupert Murdock attacked Russia to juice its ratings.

Posted by: torabora at May 04, 2023 05:55 PM (OUiUM)

--------

He should have accused Tucker of being Putin's puppet and a Russian ~~bot~~ spy as a pretext for dumping him.

Posted by: ShainS at May 04, 2023 05:58 PM (x9jeR)

100 Sooner than most think.

Closer to the unimaginable. Have you taken any steps to prepare?

Posted by: Last Days of the Republic at May 04, 2023 05:59 PM (AJZbb)

101 Looked like a warning to me. From who though ?
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at May 04, 2023 05:56 PM (NtVYv)

*sinister music plays*

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at May 04, 2023 05:59 PM (BdMk6)

102 I would blame it on Hildabeast

Posted by: Skip at May 04, 2023 05:59 PM (xhxe8)

103 That's it? That's the attack?

Posted by: Anti-Faucist at May 04, 2023 06:00 PM (ik/65)

104 I think the worst part is demolishing the old stuff. Numerous trips to the dump (my truck is a short box).
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Trailer Trash Adjacent at May 04, 2023 05:54 PM (T/Lqj)

Oooh, demolition! Now I want to come help!

Posted by: Emmie at May 04, 2023 06:00 PM (qxD91)

105 I'm dead serious - I'd love to learn the ropes on that. Just say when.
Posted by: 496 at May 04, 2023 05:55 PM (2j34C)

Well, in that case, we'd both be learning. the setup with these is different than what we did in Montana. I'll send you an e-mail. Short term though is demo and trips to the landfill.

Gracias.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Trailer Trash Adjacent at May 04, 2023 06:00 PM (T/Lqj)

106 Kim Gardner out in St Louis, Chesa Boidin recalled in San Francisco and my Soros DA in Ulster Co not running for reelection in2023. Rays of sunshine in an otherwise dark nation

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 04, 2023 06:00 PM (eFaiq)

107 95 Ace is probably grabbing a bite for dinner.
Posted by: redridinghood

This has all the earmarks of Chinese takeout.

Posted by: The so-called "Intelligence Community" at May 04, 2023 06:00 PM (DhOHl)

108 When it happened I immediately thought either the US blew it up or the UK did, or both and still do

Never thought Russia was behind it because it makes literally no fucking sense
Posted by: The Unmasked and Unvaxxed Ranger at May 04, 2023 05:51 PM (VTu1l)

Supposedly the Dutch photographed a Russian submersible recovery vehicle, with a deep dive submersible directly over the explosion site 4 days prior to the pipeline being blown up.

There was an article that basically ripped up the entire article that Sy Fabulist guy wrote - although I can't find it now.

I still don't think even Biden would be stupid enough to blow up that pipeline.

Posted by: Defenestratus at May 04, 2023 06:00 PM (D5HcI)

109 I saw that news about Ukraine droning Putin on NHK news yesterday

Can you imagine a drone going boom over the WH?
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at May 04, 2023 05:58 PM (zHbcl)

Quit teasing us.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at May 04, 2023 06:01 PM (BdMk6)

110 That's it? That's the attack?

***

Whelm Status: Under

Posted by: Azathoth at May 04, 2023 06:01 PM (wb1YC)

111 I don't want anybody else
When I think about you
I attack myself
Oh, I don't want anybody else

Posted by: wth at May 04, 2023 06:01 PM (v0R5T)

112 If it was a Chinese drone the WH would welcome it from Sundowner's overlord

Posted by: Skip at May 04, 2023 06:02 PM (xhxe8)

113 That's it? That's the attack?
Posted by: Anti-Faucist at May 04, 2023 06:00 PM (ik/65)

Right? It's like throwing sparklers at each other on the 4th of July.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Trailer Trash Adjacent at May 04, 2023 06:02 PM (T/Lqj)

114 Riding home today a few of us in our little Navy part of the world were discussing the trans shit show the Navy was using for "recruiting". It is causing quite the stir in my little pond

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 04, 2023 06:02 PM (Irn0L)

115 Here comes CNN's spin: Russia attacked itself.
.......

I attack myself
I want you to love me

Posted by: wth at May 04, 2023 06:02 PM (v0R5T)

116 Riding home today a few of us in our little Navy part of the world were discussing the trans shit show the Navy was using for "recruiting". It is causing quite the stir in my little pond.

Not enough for anybody to resign, I'm sure. Pensions are pensions.

Posted by: Mentioned in Mayfair at May 04, 2023 06:03 PM (JYyI2)

117 Can you imagine a drone going boom over the WH?
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at May 04, 2023 05:58 PM (zHbcl)

Hell the Secret Service let some dude with a knife get into the White house at one point in Barky's administration if I recall correctly.

Posted by: Defenestratus at May 04, 2023 06:03 PM (D5HcI)

118 What would that drone be doing hitting the dome, Putin raised the flag and would be bringing it down for the night?

Posted by: Skip at May 04, 2023 06:03 PM (xhxe8)

119 Right? It's like throwing sparklers at each other on the 4th of July.
Posted by: Pug Mahon

You can get a wicked burn from them.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 04, 2023 06:04 PM (Cay8n)

120 Kremlin drone attacks are the Bud Light of Fox News.

Posted by: goatexchange at May 04, 2023 06:04 PM (APPN8)

121
I still don't think even Biden would be stupid enough to blow up that pipeline.

Posted by: Defenestratus at May 04, 2023 06:00 PM (D5HcI)

Why not? Doesn't really cost us anything and keeps the Europeans from going squirrely.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at May 04, 2023 06:04 PM (eYoxG)

122
Like a 'skeeter in a bug zapper, it looked ...

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 04, 2023 06:04 PM (pNxlR)

123 Right? It's like throwing sparklers at each other on the 4th of July.
Posted by: Pug Mahon

You can get a wicked burn from them.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 04, 2023 06:04 PM (Cay8n)

You also have the bottle rocket fights, shooting from empty coke bottles.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Trailer Trash Adjacent at May 04, 2023 06:05 PM (T/Lqj)

124 I always thought the Nordstream attack was carried out by the US, but this one? Everything about it screams "False Flag!" starting with the fact that there were NO casualties and no actual damage done, just a nice fireworks show. And for me, the biggest "WTF" comes when you watch that video fullscreen - look closely, there are 2 guys already on the roof of the Kremlin dome, m oving around. WTF? Are they usually people running around the roof of the Kremlin all night long? What are they doing up there, just in time for the fireworks?

Not to mention that the camera is running and centered directly on the spot of the "attack" well before it actually happens.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 04, 2023 06:05 PM (i9ffA)

125 You know the theory that the old gods of Sumer and Babylon are back?
Maybe the Ukraine war is for Marduk god of war

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at May 04, 2023 06:05 PM (zHbcl)

126 Z-dog the most expensive whore on earth, you dawg!

Posted by: wth at May 04, 2023 06:05 PM (v0R5T)

127 A whole bunch of Feebs and Spooks are Mormon. From what I've heard, there a lot of animus between the Mormons and the Roman Catholics.
Posted by: bonhomme at May 04, 2023 05:52 PM (R38qh)

...

They can't agree on who is the pope/prophet.

Posted by: TexasDan at May 04, 2023 06:06 PM (z9npv)

128 Why not? Doesn't really cost us anything and keeps the Europeans from going squirrely.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at May 04, 2023 06:04 PM (eYoxG)

And if the Euros ever had definitive proof that we did do it, it would immediately break up NATO and send zee Germans into the loving embrace of ole wanna-be Napoleon Vlad.

Posted by: Defenestratus at May 04, 2023 06:06 PM (D5HcI)

129 I still don't think even Biden would be stupid enough to blow up that pipeline.

I'll still put a dollar on Germany. Because their government didn't want to buy that gas, and they also wanted a plausible reason to not buy that gas. Or we blew it up on their behalf, because our government frankly is Communist now - and hates the idea of anyone paying for heat on the cheap.

Posted by: Mentioned in Mayfair at May 04, 2023 06:06 PM (JYyI2)

130 Not enough for anybody to resign, I'm sure. Pensions are pensions.
Posted by: Mentioned in Mayfair at May 04, 2023 06:03 PM (JYyI2)

I don't, and will never, qualify for a pension. Came in to late in life. Missing it by 4 years

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 04, 2023 06:07 PM (Irn0L)

131 It has previously been announced that one of Putin's main goals when first invading Ukraine was the assassination of Zelenskii and his family. Or at a minimum, driving them from Ukraine. idn't work out that way though.

So now Putin is whining about being a target too??!?

Suck it up, buttercup. But yeah, this stinks like Biden's Depends of a false flag op.

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 04, 2023 06:08 PM (zHuJr)

132 The fact that those attacks might have been done by the Russian secret services themselves is admitted by quite a few people.
At the time, nationalist Russians (and a majority of Russians) saw Chechnya's autonomy as a national humiliation and were looking to get it back. Putin benefitted from this sentiment a lot; he "repaired" national honor.
Too cynical? Russians in general and Putin in particular are lovable, straightforward, and naive, like big teddy bears, who would never use such subterfuge?

Posted by: PG at May 04, 2023 06:08 PM (84jHt)

133
A whole bunch of Feebs and Spooks are Mormon. From what I've heard, there a lot of animus between the Mormons and the Roman Catholics.

How are each sides' dance moves?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 04, 2023 06:09 PM (pNxlR)

134 Not enough for anybody to resign, I'm sure. Pensions are pensions.
Posted by: Mentioned in Mayfair at May 04, 2023 06:03 PM (JYyI2)

I don't, and will never, qualify for a pension. Came in to late in life. Missing it by 4 years
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 04, 2023 06:07 PM (Irn0L)

Be pretty easy, then, to - you know - resign. Practice dentistry in private. Rather than perform a procedure on Sailor Sucks a Lottadick against your will.

Posted by: Mentioned in Mayfair at May 04, 2023 06:09 PM (JYyI2)

135 So Judge Jeanine Piro was missing from The Five today. Is this it? Is she gone?

Posted by: President Select Decaf at May 04, 2023 06:09 PM (3JfbU)

136 125 You know the theory that the old gods of Sumer and Babylon are back?
Maybe the Ukraine war is for Marduk god of war
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at May 04, 2023 06:05 PM (zHbcl)

Well I know for sure that Hermaphroditey is back, in a big way.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 04, 2023 06:09 PM (i9ffA)

137 We had nothing to do with this," said John Kirby, spokesperson for the White House National Security Council, on MSNBC.

Well alrighty then. If John Kirby says we didn't do it then you can take it to the bank. He would never lie.
Oh, his mouth was moving. Nevermind.

Posted by: Florida Peasant at May 04, 2023 06:09 PM (dr4Q1)

138 Well, sure, probably. No saints out there, only sinners it seems & war is business.

Harvard Political Review, Barack Obama Is A War Criminal
By Prince Williams, September 29, 2021

Global Policy Forum, Put Clinton on Trail for War Crimes Too, Agence France Press / Jordan Times June 17, 1999

So many....

Posted by: Lola - ALL the 1/6 videotapes from Alexandra and Jade, too. at May 04, 2023 06:10 PM (GshMh)

139 I still don't think even Biden would be stupid enough to blow up that pipeline.

Posted by: Defenestratus at May 04, 2023 06:00 PM (D5HcI)

Why not? Doesn't really cost us anything and keeps the Europeans from going squirrely.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy

I don't think he could keep his mouth shut without spilling the beans.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 04, 2023 06:10 PM (Cay8n)

140 I don't get it. Why the hell should I care if a country you invaded tries to off you?
Posted by: Archimedes at May 04, 2023 05:32 PM (eOEVl)

Saddam Hussein apparently tried to assassinate the older Bush. How did we respond?

Posted by: Methos at May 04, 2023 06:10 PM (kOpft)

141 Well I know for sure that Hermaphroditey is back, in a big way.
Posted by: Tom Servo

She can go F himself.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 04, 2023 06:11 PM (Cay8n)

142 Putin must have a sense of humor. Doesn't this attack smack of the exploding cigar CIA sent Castro in the 60s?

Posted by: President Select Decaf at May 04, 2023 06:11 PM (3JfbU)

143 61 57 Dang it. This means last night was Russian Drone Strike Eve and I didn't do anything to celebrate.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 04, 2023 05:48 PM (DhOHl)

They're Orthodox.

Those people do everything on the wrong date.

I wouldn't stress.

==

Good. I need to stock up on Marjoram and Cling Peaches.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 04, 2023 06:11 PM (DhOHl)

144 Triple false flag - CIA pretends to be Uke pretending to be US pretending to take hands off leadership and pretends to kill Putin after they made a ceasefire for Dotard visiting the Ukes

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 04, 2023 06:11 PM (K1X66)

145 I'll still put a dollar on Germany. Because their government didn't want to buy that gas, and they also wanted a plausible reason to not buy that gas. Or we blew it up on their behalf, because our government frankly is Communist now - and hates the idea of anyone paying for heat on the cheap.
Posted by: Mentioned in Mayfair at May 04, 2023 06:06 PM (JYyI2)

If not the US, the highest suspect on my bingo card is Poland. Because every single person in Poland would love nothing better than to find a way to stick it to both Russia and Germany at the same time.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 04, 2023 06:11 PM (i9ffA)

146 128 Why not? Doesn't really cost us anything and keeps the Europeans from going squirrely.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at May 04, 2023 06:04 PM (eYoxG)

And if the Euros ever had definitive proof that we did do it, it would immediately break up NATO and send zee Germans into the loving embrace of ole wanna-be Napoleon Vlad.

Posted by: Defenestratus at May 04, 2023 06:06 PM (D5HcI)

Uh, no. The Germans still have some of their stuff internally run by us and they were the ones most harmed by it. They don't get a choice.

Poles and Brits are fine with it.

Harming the interests of European commoners isn't the same as pissing off the Saudis. The Saudis have leverage, aren't occupied by us, and have a much bigger military.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at May 04, 2023 06:12 PM (eYoxG)

147 Be pretty easy, then, to - you know - resign. Practice dentistry in private. Rather than perform a procedure on Sailor Sucks a Lottadick against your will.
Posted by: Mentioned in Mayfair at May 04, 2023 06:09 PM (JYyI2)

?? You ever been in the Military?
Anyway I administrate

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 04, 2023 06:12 PM (Irn0L)

148 Biden* also denied today having any involvement with the crap in his pants, in his shoes, and on the West Wing carpet.

Posted by: Modified Limited Crap Out at May 04, 2023 06:12 PM (ik/65)

149 I can see where some woke moron would think this is a good idea to get Biden's wanderings out of the news cycle.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2023 06:12 PM (/xaUq)

150
Don't think I've never been just whelmed

Posted by: DB - Your friendly Ronco distributor at May 04, 2023 06:12 PM (geLO8)

151
Drone strike- more like drone prank
Posted by: DB - Your friendly Ronco distributor

===========

Honestly, it looked like a cherry bomb. Was it supposed to blow a hole in the Kremlin's roof or something? Has anyone found out what's in these drones?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 04, 2023 06:13 PM (lCaJd)

152 Ppl think RUS is going to stage a drone attack that calls into question their Air Defense and counter-espionage?

That makes UKR look competent?

On the Kremlin?

RUS is set to sell billions of A/D systems globally after UKR falls.

Cui bono?

Putin is the least hardline of the State power players. And less so than the populace.

Posted by: Thesokorus at May 04, 2023 06:13 PM (KFJEU)

153 139 I still don't think even Biden would be stupid enough to blow up that pipeline.

Posted by: Defenestratus at May 04, 2023 06:00 PM (D5HcI)

Why not? Doesn't really cost us anything and keeps the Europeans from going squirrely.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy

I don't think he could keep his mouth shut without spilling the beans.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 04, 2023 06:10 PM (Cay8n)

Isn't he on video threatening to blow up the pipeline?

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at May 04, 2023 06:13 PM (eYoxG)

154 Well I know for sure that Hermaphroditey is back, in a big way.
Posted by: Tom

Ishtar

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at May 04, 2023 06:13 PM (zHbcl)

155 Saddam Hussein apparently tried to assassinate the older Bush. How did we respond?

Posted by: Methos at May 04, 2023 06:10 PM (kOpft)

You forks take these things too seliousry.

Posted by: Lon Horiuchi at May 04, 2023 06:13 PM (JYyI2)

156 What would that drone be doing hitting the dome, Putin raised the flag and would be bringing it down for the night?

Posted by: Skip at May 04, 2023 06:03 PM (xhxe

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Tranny drone pilots in a remote Nevada desert sending Putin a message that he'd better start flying the Pride Flag.

Posted by: ShainS at May 04, 2023 06:13 PM (7cYWc)

157 Here comes CNN's spin: Russia attacked itself.

The strongest argument against the false flag argument is that apparently Russian state media is downplaying the attack. If it was intended as a false flag, state media would be playing it up.

One of the sources of Putin's popularity is that he brought order to Russia after the chaos of the Yeltsin years. Attacks on the Kremlin undermine that sense of order.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 04, 2023 06:13 PM (2tUFv)

158 You ever been in the Military?
Anyway I administrate
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 04, 2023 06:12 PM (Irn0L)

I thought you were a guy.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at May 04, 2023 06:14 PM (BdMk6)

159 So Judge Jeanine Piro was missing from The Five today. Is this it? Is she gone?
Posted by: President Select Decaf

Failing at leg chair duties. I knew I could get that in there somewhere. I did see Katie Pavlich some time ago but not in THE leg chair but Greg's usual stage right.

The legs are all on the circular couch 'outnumbered' since Kimber flew the coop.

Posted by: micky at May 04, 2023 06:14 PM (3byMq)

160
Marc feld , who leaked the Nixon hoax to the Washington post is a mormon

Posted by: Yo ultra MAGA at May 04, 2023 06:14 PM (unlgQ)

161 The Saudis have leverage, aren't occupied by us, and have a much bigger military.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy

Ahh...they're inept to say the least.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 04, 2023 06:14 PM (dRC7H)

162 ?? You ever been in the Military? Anyway I administrate.

Yeah, I was. And it was easy to not re-enlist. I simply ... didn't. Nobody made me stay. Nobody makes you stay, either. Yet you do.

Posted by: Mentioned in Mayfair at May 04, 2023 06:15 PM (JYyI2)

163 Meanwhile, there is a massive crisis happening at the border.
Our country is being destroyed.

Posted by: redridinghood at May 04, 2023 06:16 PM (NpAcC)

164 "Germany did not want to buy the gas"

What does this sentence mean?

What definition of "Germany" are we working under?

What possible reason could a manufacturing powerhouse have for not buying cheap gas?

Why did they build the pipeline?

Posted by: Thesokorus at May 04, 2023 06:16 PM (KFJEU)

165 Isn't he on video threatening to blow up the pipeline?

And you have both Blinken and Nuland doing happy dances that the pipeline is gone.

Nuland said she was "gratified" by the destruction of the pipelines.

Is she normally "gratified" after Russian terrorist attacks?

Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 04, 2023 06:16 PM (2tUFv)

166 Saudis in Audis was a great Remy video.

Posted by: Just Sayin' at May 04, 2023 06:16 PM (DhOHl)

167 24 . . . the little bottle rocket that barely went "poof" above the roof of the Kremlin was even weaker than an air punch you'd seen thrown in a bitch fight between Rachel Levine and Mark Milley. If we tossed that silly firecracker, we got even bigger problems than trannies in the Pentagon.
Posted by: Bamanarama
_________

Weren't Adm. Divine and Thoroughly Post-Modern Milley high school football teammates?

Coach: "All right, boys. Hit the showers."

Posted by: Kam Fong as Chin Ho at May 04, 2023 06:17 PM (gf7Ez)

168 Posted by: Nevergiveup

Afternoon, Commodore. Long time no see. Hope you are well.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 04, 2023 06:17 PM (Cay8n)

169 Saudi's have a decent air force. The rest of their military was pushed to the wall just trying to deal with a pack of goat herding camel jockeys down in Yemen.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 04, 2023 06:17 PM (i9ffA)

170 Our country is being destroyed.

Posted by: redridinghood

Huh?

We're DESTROYING the Dems on Twitter.

Posted by: Gope at May 04, 2023 06:17 PM (AJZbb)

171
One of the sources of Putin's popularity is that he brought order to Russia after the chaos of the Yeltsin years. Attacks on the Kremlin undermine that sense of order.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 04, 2023 06:13 PM (2tUFv)

Yes, virtually every narrative about Russia false flagging itself is from a Western victimhood perspective. It doesn't make sense in the context of Russian politics and worldview.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at May 04, 2023 06:17 PM (eYoxG)

172 Yeah, I was. And it was easy to not re-enlist. I simply ... didn't. Nobody made me stay. Nobody makes you stay, either. Yet you do.
Posted by: Mentioned in Mayfair at May 04, 2023 06:15 PM (JYyI2)

Well I don't "enlist or re-enlist. I have a Commission. I will be retired in 6 months, so what is your point?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 04, 2023 06:18 PM (Irn0L)

173
I thought you were a guy.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons

... and that's when the tears and hysteria began, Your Honor ...

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 04, 2023 06:18 PM (pNxlR)

174 Don't think I've never been just whelmed

---------

Whelm, transitive verb: To cover with water; submerge.

Huh, the things I learned here ...

Posted by: ShainS at May 04, 2023 06:18 PM (Z5tH+)

175 Ahh...they're inept to say the least.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 04, 2023 06:14 PM (dRC7H)

I'm not sure a nation "led" by Joe Biden can afford to cast stones that way. But my mood is vastly improved by this gem about "Hermaphroditey."

She can go F himself.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 04, 2023 06:11 PM (Cay8n)

Posted by: trev006 at May 04, 2023 06:18 PM (78UcJ)

176 Sundowner doesn't do anything without being told what to say. If they don't have enough blackmail on his sorry ass by now they never will.

Posted by: Skip at May 04, 2023 06:18 PM (xhxe8)

177 Twitter is bots.

Posted by: At least that's what I heard at May 04, 2023 06:18 PM (DhOHl)

178 What definition of "Germany" are we working under?
What possible reason could a manufacturing powerhouse have for not buying cheap gas?

The definition of the recently Angela Merkel led country, that isn't any less insane than our current regime. Which, FYI, also hates cheap energy and is releasing regulations almost weekly now to inhibit prosperity via cheap, abundant energy.

Posted by: Mentioned in Mayfair at May 04, 2023 06:19 PM (JYyI2)

179 I don't get it. Why the hell should I care if a country you invaded tries to off you?

Beats me.

Posted by: Zombie JFK, Killed By A Castro Supporter! at May 04, 2023 06:19 PM (2tUFv)

180 Whelm, transitive verb: To cover with water; submerge.

-----------

So that means one can be either over-submerged or under-submerged?

My head hurts.

Posted by: ShainS at May 04, 2023 06:19 PM (Z5tH+)

181 13 Kim Gardner has resigned.
Posted by: Azathoth at May 04, 2023 05:37 PM (wb1YC)

Maybe she will be prosecuted.

Posted by: clutch at May 04, 2023 06:19 PM (9UmRs)

182 The solution here, obviously, is to boycott Russian dressing.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 04, 2023 06:19 PM (Q4IgG)

183 You ever been in the Military?
Anyway I administrate
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 04, 2023 06:12 PM (Irn0L)

Be careful out there. I know that you may not have a lot of options, but I get the feeling the rest of this year is gonna suck worse than what came before it.

Posted by: trev006 at May 04, 2023 06:19 PM (78UcJ)

184 Jack Vance called the Gaean Reach and Alastor System's military "The Whelm".

Posted by: Thesokorus at May 04, 2023 06:20 PM (KFJEU)

185 I don't get it. Why the hell should I care if a country you invaded tries to off you?

Because, if successful, that almost certainly leads to World War Three.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 04, 2023 06:20 PM (2tUFv)

186 Be careful out there. I know that you may not have a lot of options, but I get the feeling the rest of this year is gonna suck worse than what came before it.
Posted by: trev006 at May 04, 2023 06:19 PM (78UcJ)

Well I am pretty much bullet proof at this point, but I keep my head down

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 04, 2023 06:20 PM (Irn0L)

187 13 Kim Gardner has resigned.
Posted by: Azathoth at May 04, 2023 05:37 PM (wb1YC)

Maybe she will be prosecuted.
Posted by: clutch at May 04, 2023 06:19 PM (9UmRs)
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I'm guessing she did it to *avoid* prosecution somehow.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 04, 2023 06:21 PM (BpYfr)

188 Well I don't "enlist or re-enlist. I have a Commission. I will be retired in 6 months, so what is your point?

My point is, you folks can get together and commiserate all you want ... but, at the end of the day, you still get up the next morning and serve the branch you bitch about. So it's all just useless bitching. Not like you're going to stop doing as you're told.

Posted by: Mentioned in Mayfair at May 04, 2023 06:21 PM (JYyI2)

189 The definition of the recently Angela Merkel led country, that isn't any less insane than our current regime. Which, FYI, also hates cheap energy and is releasing regulations almost weekly now to inhibit prosperity via cheap, abundant energy.

Posted by: Mentioned in Mayfair at May 04, 2023 06:19 PM (JYyI2)

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And, like here, they apparently hate their own citizens.

Posted by: ShainS at May 04, 2023 06:21 PM (Z5tH+)

190 We need to get those show trials out of Capital City.

Posted by: Plunger Games at May 04, 2023 06:21 PM (ik/65)

191 185 "I don't get it. Why the hell should I care if a country you invaded tries to off you?"

Because, if successful, that almost certainly leads to World War Three.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 04, 2023 06:20 PM (2tUFv)

Yes for the time being we are running a proxy war that both sides have more or less agreed we don't want to turn into something bigger. If certain lines are crossed, maybe it does become something bigger.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at May 04, 2023 06:21 PM (eYoxG)

192 possibilities

1. Ukraine, long range (Doolittle style just to let them know what to fear.)

2. Ukraine partisans, local. Just to do something

3. Russian partisans, just to express hatred of kremlin

4. Russian false flag to
a. Justify further call-ups "our territory is under attack"
b. Justify a hit on Ukraine Capital, even a Zelensky assassination.
c. Get US/UKR to decry and claim they did not do it and such an attack is "off limits"

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at May 04, 2023 06:21 PM (DM3oU)

193 So that means one can be either over-submerged or under-submerged?

My head hurts.
Posted by: ShainS

Subs are over submerged, and hopefully ships are under submerged.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 04, 2023 06:21 PM (Cay8n)

194 New tires on the ducttape-mobile! They said they were putting Hankooks on there, but I think they messed up and installed MagicCarpet brand skins. Smoooooth, and I no longer have to apply constant 20ft-lb clockwise corrective steering torque when driving straight ahead. I could get used to this, but by then it would be time for new tires again, so I am determined never to get used to it.

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at May 04, 2023 06:22 PM (MvF+J)

195 The definition of the recently Angela Merkel led country, that isn't any less insane than our current regime. Which, FYI, also hates cheap energy and is releasing regulations almost weekly now to inhibit prosperity via cheap, abundant energy.
Posted by: Mentioned in Mayfair at May 04, 2023 06:19 PM (JYyI2)

So, the US puppet regime didn't want to buy the gas?

And the puppet blew up the pipeline on its own initiative absent the master's input?

Posted by: Thesokorus at May 04, 2023 06:22 PM (KFJEU)

196 I don't get it. Why the hell should I care if a country you invaded tries to off you?

I don't get it. Why the hell should I care if some European princeling gets assassinated by some third-rate Balkan country?

Posted by: Zombie Franz Ferdinand! at May 04, 2023 06:22 PM (2tUFv)

197 My point is, you folks can get together and commiserate all you want ... but, at the end of the day, you still get up the next morning and serve the branch you bitch about. So it's all just useless bitching. Not like you're going to stop doing as you're told.
Posted by: Mentioned in Mayfair at May 04, 2023 06:21 PM (JYyI2)

So I should go AWOL? Great idea. And many of us are dedicated to what we do and we do more than bitch. But thanks for the great advise

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 04, 2023 06:22 PM (Irn0L)

198 sorry, looks staged to me. Minimal damage. Comical even.

Posted by: observer at May 04, 2023 06:23 PM (FBltX)

199 That's what Leftists do, say I'm out and no longer a public servant so kiss off on anything they have done.

Posted by: Skip at May 04, 2023 06:23 PM (xhxe8)

200 You know Normie, "The Whelm" ran off Broadway for the better part of three years and it was, dare I say, pretty SPICY for it's time.

Posted by: Cliff Claven at May 04, 2023 06:23 PM (DhOHl)

201 ZOMG! That was at least a 2 pico-ton weapon!

In other words, an explosive device equivalent to about two standard infantry hand grenades. Enough to produce a flash and a bang, but cause little damage to a Kremlin building. Exactly what the FSB intended.

Posted by: Gref at May 04, 2023 06:23 PM (AMIL/)

202 "Maybe she will be prosecuted."

Durham is on it. He'll have an indictment ready in 2037.

Posted by: DURHAM IS NOT COMING at May 04, 2023 06:24 PM (ik/65)

203 If certain lines are crossed, maybe it does become something bigger.

Which is why the Ukrainians did it.

If the status quo persists, they lose.

Expanding the conflict is to their benefit.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 04, 2023 06:24 PM (2tUFv)

204 Norms. Restored.

Posted by: Joe, living dangerously at May 04, 2023 06:25 PM (fKIdX)

205 2. Ukraine partisans, local. Just to do something

_________

Almost certainly this. And launched within radius of S-500 and S-400. Kremlin A/D is the best in the world. By far.

It sucks to admit. But it is undeniably true.

UKR has shown ability to strike Kremlin. The charge used is not relevant. The demonstration of ability is what matters.

Posted by: Thesokorus at May 04, 2023 06:25 PM (KFJEU)

206 Honestly, it looked like a cherry bomb. Was it supposed to blow a hole in the Kremlin's roof or something? Has anyone found out what's in these drones?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia

It looked like it was trying to take down the flag.
A very big deal, symbolically.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at May 04, 2023 06:26 PM (DM3oU)

207 The Victory Day parade on Red Square on Tuesday is going to be LIT!

Posted by: The SBU! at May 04, 2023 06:26 PM (2tUFv)

208 State AG Bailey's lawsuit to remove her from office was cleared to go ahead last week. This is Gardner's way to get out of having to face that.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 04, 2023 06:26 PM (i9ffA)

209 Wanna bet Joey gave the ukies a team of operators with nuclear devices snd delivery engines and the tech to drove them?

Posted by: Mr Gaga at May 04, 2023 06:26 PM (KiBMU)

210 Putin usually sleeps on the Kremlin roof, so, yeah, this is a big deal.

Posted by: Sick Burn at May 04, 2023 06:27 PM (ik/65)

211 I mean… if Russia nukes NYC, Washington DC, Los Angeles, San Francisco… I’m probably gonna write a strongly worded letter of protest

Posted by: SMFH at May 04, 2023 06:27 PM (Gki/+)

212 "an explosive device equivalent to about two standard infantry hand grenades"

Not even as potent as the average firework. A symbolic thing, nothing to launch nukes over.

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at May 04, 2023 06:27 PM (MvF+J)

213
Given the size of that explosion, the Kremlin better prepare for a-

bottle-rocket attack next.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 04, 2023 06:27 PM (RJQ8g)

214 If you want to escalate the current unwinnable limited war by your opponent you should definitely attack their capital so it becomes an unlimited war.

Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2023 06:27 PM (MNhXM)

215 211 I mean… if Russia nukes NYC, Washington DC, Los Angeles, San Francisco… I’m probably gonna write a strongly worded letter of protest
Posted by: SMFH at May 04, 2023 06:27 PM (Gki/+)

Maybe summon their ambassador and give him a stern lecture.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at May 04, 2023 06:28 PM (eYoxG)

216 2 They are all liars, don't believe anything.
Posted by: Next2Nothing

All the world is indeed a stage, and we are merely players - William Shakespeare, ripping off Neal Peart.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at May 04, 2023 06:28 PM (4eKPg)

217 So I should go AWOL? Great idea. And many of us are dedicated to what we do and we do more than bitch. But thanks for the great advise

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 04, 2023 06:22 PM (Irn0L)

But not so dedicated that you'll stop showing up. Because you're only six months from the end, in your case.

You've got a million reasons to keep doing what you're told, not matter what they tell. So just keep your head down and keep keeping on. No matter what. Camps, ditches, whatever.

It's not like you have a choice, I guess.

Posted by: Mentioned in Mayfair at May 04, 2023 06:28 PM (JYyI2)

218 Doesn't matter if it's true - see WMD issue- Russia is playing Alinsky rules. The US has done whatever the fuck it has wanted to since 9/11 right or wrong under the guise of "terrorism". Reap it. I love my country, but have a hard time believing anything since maybe 63.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at May 04, 2023 06:28 PM (oWBc3)

219 Follow up to the drone strike: burning bag of poop on Putin's front porch

Posted by: DB - Your friendly Ronco distributor at May 04, 2023 06:28 PM (geLO8)

220 UKR has shown ability to strike Kremlin. The charge used is not relevant. The demonstration of ability is what matters.
Posted by: Thesokorus

Like the Doolittle raid in world war two.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 04, 2023 06:28 PM (Cay8n)

221 186 Be careful out there. I know that you may not have a lot of options, but I get the feeling the rest of this year is gonna suck worse than what came before it.
Posted by: trev006 at May 04, 2023 06:19 PM (78UcJ)

the ship has already hit the iceberg, we're just arguing about the band's playlist, and who gets the comfy chairs while we wait.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 04, 2023 06:28 PM (i9ffA)

222 The so called "suicide drones" that have been used on both side in this shit show do, in fact, have significant range.

Whether one or more was used to "attack" the Kremlin, with or without US help is debatable. Thus... Putin will not attack the US directly.

Maybe.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 04, 2023 06:28 PM (Q4IgG)

223 OMG they're gonna TP the Kremlin

Posted by: DB - Your friendly Ronco distributor at May 04, 2023 06:29 PM (geLO8)

224 US would laugh at RUS deminstrating they could blow up a drone above the WH?

Posted by: Thesokorus at May 04, 2023 06:29 PM (KFJEU)

225 I guess we Do do business with terrorists. It's the new normal.

Posted by: Regular joe at May 04, 2023 06:29 PM (nnp+f)

226 "if Russia nukes NYC, Washington DC, Los Angeles, San Francisco"

[Closely studies videos of those cities.]

How... how would you know?

Posted by: Sick Burn at May 04, 2023 06:29 PM (ik/65)

227 212 "an explosive device equivalent to about two standard infantry hand grenades"

Not even as potent as the average firework. A symbolic thing, nothing to launch nukes over.
Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at May 04, 2023 06:27 PM (MvF+J)

No, it has most likely caused Russia to ask the US wth is going on with its proxy. Did the US authorize this, are you losing control over what Ukraine is doing?

The most pessimistic interpretation Russia could take is that the US is trying to overthrow Russia's government by making them look weak. To which they'd think the best response is a show of strength.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at May 04, 2023 06:30 PM (eYoxG)

228 But not so dedicated that you'll stop showing up. Because you're only six months from the end, in your case.

You've got a million reasons to keep doing what you're told, not matter what they tell. So just keep your head down and keep keeping on. No matter what. Camps, ditches, whatever.

It's not like you have a choice, I guess.
Posted by: Mentioned in Mayfair at May 04, 2023 06:28 PM (JYyI2)

You really have no idea what your talking about.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 04, 2023 06:31 PM (Irn0L)

229 Nood

Posted by: Kam Fong as Chin Ho at May 04, 2023 06:31 PM (gf7Ez)

230 This has all of the earmarks of a Russian operation. Or, maybe it's the hallmarks. I should check the Style Handbook.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 04, 2023 06:31 PM (rx603)

231 Fortunately, our southern border is closed, so we don't have to worry about Russian-funded terrorists slipping into our country to get even for our proxy war in Ukraine.

Posted by: Whew at May 04, 2023 06:31 PM (ik/65)

232 The Victory Day parade on Red Square on Tuesday is going to be LIT!

I'm definitely staying up for it.

Starts 10 AM Moscow time on Tuesday.

I expect the Ukrainian counteroffensive to start a few hours before then.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 04, 2023 06:32 PM (2tUFv)

233 The really sad part about it was the ukes were aiming for St. Petersburg.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at May 04, 2023 06:32 PM (BdMk6)

234 The most pessimistic interpretation Russia could take is that the US is trying to overthrow Russia's government by making them look weak. To which they'd think the best response is a show of strength.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at May 04, 2023 06:30 PM (eYoxG)

We are explicitly trying to overthrow the RUS government.

The most pessimistic is that bioweapons could be dropped on the Kremlin.

Perhaps even a suitcase nuke.

Posted by: Thesokorus at May 04, 2023 06:32 PM (KFJEU)

235 I am amazed at the snark directed toward this attack on Russia's capitol while the same commenters rage about the illegal incarceration of the J6 protesters.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at May 04, 2023 06:33 PM (oWBc3)

236 227 It looked to me like any ordinary hobby drone. Any bozo could have launched it. Is there evidence it even came from Ukraine? I humbly suggest this is not a good reason to destroy the entire planet.

Putin can ice Zelensky any time he wants. If Putin knows for sure Z sent the drone, he can slip in a reliable assassin with maybe 12 hours lead time. This would be preferable to us all dying horribly.

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at May 04, 2023 06:34 PM (MvF+J)

237 On a lighter note, just saw a commercial highlighting Tammy Duckworth as the first female double amputee in the Senate. There's a high bar for you peeps.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at May 04, 2023 06:34 PM (oWBc3)

238 A true trailer trash person burns his old cabinets in the backyard like me. Heck, I was gonna burn some pine straw, anyway. I draw the line at carpet, though.

Posted by: Ole Zeke at May 04, 2023 06:35 PM (Nn3xT)

239 208 State AG Bailey's lawsuit to remove her from office was cleared to go ahead last week. This is Gardner's way to get out of having to face that.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 04, 2023 06:26 PM (i9ffA)

This lets Gardner claim to be a victim, without suffering any physical or legal harm. I wonder how many millions she'll get for a (ghostwritten) book describing her victimization by whites her entire life?

Posted by: Gref at May 04, 2023 06:37 PM (AMIL/)

240 "if Russia nukes NYC, Washington DC, Los Angeles, San Francisco"

[Closely studies videos of those cities.]

How... how would you know?
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The crime rate would go down.

Posted by: Methos at May 04, 2023 06:37 PM (kOpft)

241 There's nothing about that video that makes me think it was a serious attempt at doing anything more than putting on a show.
It might be the Russians themselves or even Russian dissidents but no way do I think Ukraine or NATO would risk authorising such a high-stakes attack and then attempt it using such a low effort, low-tech and low probability of success method.

Posted by: stv at May 04, 2023 06:37 PM (/dqoc)

242 It reminds me of when a man blows his load in my ass.

Posted by: David French at May 04, 2023 06:38 PM (FBltX)

243 > I am amazed at the snark directed toward this attack on Russia's capitol while the same commenters rage about the illegal incarceration of the J6 protesters.

That's a fabulous non-sequitur. The best.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 04, 2023 06:38 PM (R38qh)

244 They were just Amazon delivery drones shot down by jumpy sentries. Nothing to see here folks, move along...

;-)

Posted by: formerly known as at May 04, 2023 06:39 PM (lQ1sW)

245 Here the thing - the attack was effective, yet ineffectual.

The drone got through, reached its target, then didn't damage anything or hurt anyone. That screams to me that a message was being sent. But from whom to who?

I think from Ukraine to Russia. The message is "we can build Sahed like drones and fly them to your cites. We can destroy your cites and kill your innocent civilians.

Ukraine is about to launch a counteroffensive. Russia will be sorely tempted to attack Ukranian civilians if they can't beat back the Ukie tanks.

Posted by: Inspector kemp at May 04, 2023 06:43 PM (+DS2f)

246 US would laugh at RUS deminstrating they could blow up a drone above the WH?

Posted by: Thesokorus at May 04, 2023 06:29 PM (KFJEU)

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All they have to do is disguise it as a Chinese surveillance balloon.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at May 04, 2023 06:45 PM (3JfbU)

247 She should still go to trial

Posted by: Stealth LOL at May 04, 2023 06:54 PM (2lLpr)

248 On one hand, trying to rekindle the Cold War is smart. The current regime will get certain Boomer segments on board at "Cold War".

I'll continue to observe and state - certain elements of the Obama regime miss WW II. They'd like to assign labor. Ration items directly. And they'd certainly appreciate it if we all just sang the songs and saluted their rainbow flags.

Which, again, will make certain Boomer segments happy.
Posted by: Mentioned in Mayfair at May 04, 2023 05:46 PM (JYyI2)

Not this "boomer." I remember when all these Donk sh!t-stains were either AWOL or rooting for the Soviet Union when I was training to fight in the Fulda Gap.

A good rule-of-thumb: if the Democrats want it, it's bad for Americans.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 04, 2023 07:00 PM (pJWtt)

249
Gardner is the bint that prosecuted the McCloskey couple for standing outside their home with firearms to protect it during the Riots of St George. Fortunately AG Bailey read Seneca- "Luck is when preparation meets opportunity". He was gunning for here since his election. This is how we win

Posted by: Leon Sphinx at May 04, 2023 07:21 PM (UIngH)

250 Just for the fuck of it you should watch this pro-Russia propaganda and see the depths to which anti-Americans sink to.
https://youtu.be/Nk-WfmY5aNA

Posted by: Rippsy Nussel at May 04, 2023 08:35 PM (rx9aq)

251 I watched the 9 second video.

So, if it's real, it's definitely a false flag by Russia. Why, I have no idea, but you don't attack a flag pole and not a building, and you don't do it with firepower that looks like the amount of a sparkler...

UNLESS, you just wanted to prove a point, but not actually do something (like, we COULD do this, but we didn't right now)...but that seems like a stretch...
Posted by: Nova Local at May 04, 2023 05:40 PM (exHjb)

The flag pole and dome is where the Russian Senate meets. Its like hitting the dome of the Capitol building.

Ukraine fired a long distance missile in the direction of Moscow a few months ago, it crashed south of the city. So they've tried hitting the area before. Not so coincidentally, like this time it was in a lull before a Ukrainian defeat became obvious - the fall of Solidar.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 04, 2023 09:18 PM (eoQWY)

252 227 It looked to me like any ordinary hobby drone. Any bozo could have launched it. Is there evidence it even came from Ukraine? I humbly suggest this is not a good reason to destroy the entire planet.

Putin can ice Zelensky any time he wants. If Putin knows for sure Z sent the drone, he can slip in a reliable assassin with maybe 12 hours lead time. This would be preferable to us all dying horribly.
Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at May 04, 2023 06:34 PM (MvF+J)

The Israeli foreign minister secured a promise from Putin that he would not try and ice Zelensky early in the war and got one, so Z came out of his bunker and started his photo sessions. Russia is working on unaligned country opinions about the war which is more or less working.

Interesting coincidence that Z had travelled off to visit Finland the day of this Russian op, though. Its a good way to avoid Russia sending a missile into his bedroom.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 04, 2023 09:22 PM (eoQWY)

253 There's nothing about that video that makes me think it was a serious attempt at doing anything more than putting on a show.
It might be the Russians themselves or even Russian dissidents but no way do I think Ukraine or NATO would risk authorising such a high-stakes attack and then attempt it using such a low effort, low-tech and low probability of success method.
Posted by: stv at May 04, 2023 06:37 PM (/dqoc)

There have been several terrorist like attacks in Russia during this war, all of which have been convincingly tied to the Ukr secret ops group, their CIA. Another interesting fact is it looks like the incident is going to get a new mural / postage stamp put up for it in Ukraine.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 04, 2023 09:24 PM (eoQWY)

254 It has previously been announced that one of Putin's main goals when first invading Ukraine was the assassination of Zelenskii and his family. Or at a minimum, driving them from Ukraine. idn't work out that way though.

So now Putin is whining about being a target too??!?

Suck it up, buttercup. But yeah, this stinks like Biden's Depends of a false flag op.
Posted by: GnuBreed at May 04, 2023 06:08 PM (zHuJr)

Sorry, but an Israeli minister made public a few months ago that he secured an agreement from Putin NOT to try and kill Zelensky during a trip he made first to Kiev and then to Moscow. He said that after that Zelensky came out of the bunker he was hiding in and started defying the "assassins" of Russia to show his courage.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 04, 2023 09:32 PM (eoQWY)

255 the Kremlin was able to prevent whoever WAS operating that drone from controlling it - that's why it looked so wonky.

as far as whose drone it was, wouldn't surprise me if it was us or we pushed Poland or someone to do it. honestly at this point the US is total Clown World so who the hell knows
Posted by: BlackOrchid at May 04, 2023 05:42 PM (w0NJk)

They have developed countermeasures they have been using on the main front to blunt drone attacks that in effect burn out the electronics of the drone to bring it down. This likely is what is happening here - they crashed the guidance and the fire seen isn't the charge but the guidance/control hardware blowing up.

The also have recently started jamming GPS guided bombs so then can't find their targets, so the ones we recently send Ukraine have not been very effective.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 04, 2023 09:36 PM (eoQWY)

256 No, it has most likely caused Russia to ask the US wth is going on with its proxy. Did the US authorize this, are you losing control over what Ukraine is doing?

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at May 04, 2023 06:30 PM (eYoxG)

My guess that certain factions in DC are against that - the Pentagon, possibly parts of State, possibly parts of the WH. Others, like the Neocon lobby are probably for it and may have given it a blessing. In many previous actions there has been this kind of split between hawks and those more reluctant to risk escalation.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 04, 2023 09:40 PM (eoQWY)

257 They have developed countermeasures they have been using on the main front to blunt drone attacks that in effect burn out the electronics of the drone to bring it down. This likely is what is happening here - they crashed the guidance and the fire seen isn't the charge but the guidance/control hardware blowing up.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 04, 2023 09:36 PM (eoQWY)

I'm sorry. In what world do you think circuit boards explode into 10ft wide fireballs?

For some reason Russia haven't splashed pictures of the drone all over RT to prove it was a Ukrainian or NATO system. What would Occam say?

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