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SpaceX's Test Flight of Its Super-Heavy Rocket Experiences "Rapid Unscheduled Disassembly"
Girthy Commentary from Azathoth Added
Earlier, Elon Musk posted video the Super-Heavy version of the Falcon rocket, with its immense booster, blasting off.
Update, from Azathoth:I'm still amazed at the SpaceX launch this morning. The Saturn V rockets we used for the Apollo program generated over 6 million pounds of thrust at lift off. The Starship rocket that launched this morning generates 17 million pounds of thrust. The Saturn Vs when they took off generated so much thrust they would literally pound Pad 39A few inches into the ground. I have no idea how they're handling this in Texas with this latest rocket. I realize the rockets are greatly advanced from the old F1 Saturn days and use different fuel mixtures but thrust is thrust. Over the years, NASA used a series of aqueducts and water reservoirs under the launch pad that were filled shortly before launch with millions of gallons of water. Practically all of that was turned to steam during launch, hence the enormous clouds you saw around the launch pad and pictures. I don't know if they're doing something like that in Texas or if they're going completely in a different direction. 17 million pounds of thrust. The largest rocket anyone's ever launched. And we're 120 years out from the first flight at Kitty Hawk. Posted by: Azathoth
— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) April 20, 2023
SpaceX is calling it “a rapid unscheduled disassembly”.
— Jack E. Smith ⚖️ (@7Veritas4) April 20, 2023
In my day, we called it an explosion.
pic.twitter.com/lLHWf42Hrw
SpaceX
@SpaceX With a test like this, success comes from what we learn, and today's test will help us improve Starship's reliability as SpaceX seeks to make life multi-planetary
👨🏻🔧Never mistake trial for failure. As you say in #BocaChica, “it’s not an explosion, it’s just rapid unscheduled disassembly.” Congrats 😎 @SpaceX on this #Starship launch! #SpaceX pic.twitter.com/67Y3brzbgs
— Thomas Pesquet (@Thom_astro) April 20, 2023
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: jmel at April 20, 2023 02:51 PM (RWHIh)
Posted by: DanMan at April 20, 2023 02:52 PM (DB6tu)
Wheels within wheels.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at April 20, 2023 02:51 PM (L57Qg)
Posted by: G'rump928(c) repeats himself at April 20, 2023 02:52 PM (L57Qg)
Posted by: garrett at April 20, 2023 02:52 PM (P7IZS)
Achieving launch without destroying the facility.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) repeats himself at April 20, 2023 02:53 PM (L57Qg)
Posted by: Iris at April 20, 2023 02:53 PM (NaH5I)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 20, 2023 02:53 PM (oINRc)
Posted by: garrett at April 20, 2023 02:53 PM (P7IZS)
Posted by: jeet at April 20, 2023 02:53 PM (0ZYe2)
Posted by: Paolo at April 20, 2023 02:54 PM (P7IZS)
That sounds dirty.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 20, 2023 02:54 PM (ZLI7S)
Posted by: garrett at April 20, 2023 02:53 PM (P7IZS)
It provides hope that maybe there's someday an escape from this increasingly hellish planet?
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at April 20, 2023 02:54 PM (N1tpc)
Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 20, 2023 02:54 PM (lTGtQ)
Posted by: garrett at April 20, 2023 02:53 PM (P7IZS
Because most things suck. Space rockets don't suck. In fact, they're extra-cool.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 20, 2023 02:54 PM (oINRc)
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 20, 2023 02:55 PM (oHd/0)
pity comes to mind, they did win the coin toss for first pick tho
Posted by: DanMan at April 20, 2023 02:55 PM (DB6tu)
Posted by: garrett at April 20, 2023 02:55 PM (P7IZS)
The Left focuses on experiencing victimhood and describing how everything causes them to be a victim.
Posted by: Iris at April 20, 2023 02:55 PM (NaH5I)
Posted by: garrett at April 20, 2023 02:53 PM (P7IZS)
It provides hope that maybe there's someday an escape from this increasingly hellish planet?
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at April 20, 2023 02:54 PM (N1tpc)
Because I still believe that indeed, the Meek shall inherit the Earth, because the rest of us are gonna leave.
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 20, 2023 02:56 PM (oHd/0)
That's what they call me. Ol' Rapid Unscheduled Disassembly.
Posted by: John Fetterman at April 20, 2023 02:56 PM (hRS2E)
Posted by: Zombie Vladimir Komarov at April 20, 2023 02:56 PM (KRfYs)
Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at April 20, 2023 02:56 PM (3Or4S)
Posted by: JT at April 20, 2023 02:56 PM (T4tVD)
I remember the first time they landed after the suicide flop maneuver. I remember the first time that the catcher arms grabbed one of the components successfully.
SpaceX has accomplished so many amazing things.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 20, 2023 02:56 PM (1Z8zZ)
Posted by: garrett at April 20, 2023 02:53 PM (P7IZS)
On the serious side- he's trying something VERY difficult.
And he's doing things no one has ever done before.
People cheer for that kind of thing.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at April 20, 2023 02:57 PM (N1tpc)
Posted by: Super Heavy Rocket at April 20, 2023 02:57 PM (hRS2E)
Posted by: can of spam at April 20, 2023 02:57 PM (7oNMO)
Posted by: if my uncle cut off his balls he'd be my aunt Liberals at April 20, 2023 02:58 PM (sh1GZ)
Posted by: SamE at April 20, 2023 02:58 PM (DMW5B)
True. I can accept this. I have more difficulty with the fanboyish "this isn't a failure" though.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at April 20, 2023 02:58 PM (ppBhU)
Posted by: DB - so you want to go to Mars at April 20, 2023 02:58 PM (geLO8)
Posted by: DanMan at April 20, 2023 02:55 PM (DB6tu)
That gave me quite a chuckle. Well done.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at April 20, 2023 02:58 PM (N1tpc)
If it was from the stream I watched this morning she is actually an engineering manager, not simply a commentator behind the microphone.
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at April 20, 2023 02:58 PM (Ohafd)
Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 20, 2023 02:54 PM (lTGtQ)
It was. I was surprised it went that far. BUT I think they're going to have to rethink some things on the basic design.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at April 20, 2023 02:59 PM (BdMk6)
The uncrewed rocket disintegrated four minutes after successfully blasting off at 8:33 am Central Time (1333 GMT) from Starbase, the SpaceX spaceport in Boca Chica, Texas.
The Starship spacecraft that will eventually carry crew and cargo had been scheduled to separate from the first-stage rocket booster three minutes into the flight, but separation failed to occur and the rocket blew up in a ball of fire over the Gulf of Mexico.
Despite the failure to complete the full 90-minute flight test and reach orbit, SpaceX and Musk, the founder and CEO of the private space company, declared it a success.
“Congrats SpaceX team on an exciting test launch of Starship!” Musk tweeted. “Learned a lot for next test launch in a few months.”||
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at April 20, 2023 02:59 PM (Vwz3I)
Black on top
White on the bottom.
Now I'm not saying our little brown brothers, who are achieving citizenship every day (along with a shitload of chinese) are responsible, and I'm not saying they aren't. But it might be worth a check.
Posted by: Diogenes at April 20, 2023 02:59 PM (anj39)
***
"The tortoise lays on its back, its belly baking in the hot sun, beating its legs trying to turn itself over, but it can't. Not without your help. But you're not helping."
Posted by: Azathoth at April 20, 2023 02:59 PM (wb1YC)
Posted by: ... at April 20, 2023 02:59 PM (SC4DV)
Posted by: Lizzy at April 20, 2023 02:59 PM (umIEz)
Posted by: moon_over_vermont
with token gay guy to her left
Posted by: DB - so you want to go to Mars at April 20, 2023 02:59 PM (geLO8)
Posted by: Lost In Space at April 20, 2023 02:59 PM (iGfKR)
Good on them.
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at April 20, 2023 03:00 PM (N3zMI)
Posted by: Jose Jimenez at April 20, 2023 03:00 PM (3Or4S)
he may not be Gay sometimes people from India can sound like that and be not Gay tho
Posted by: BlackOrchid at April 20, 2023 03:00 PM (w0NJk)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at April 20, 2023 02:58 PM (ppBhU)
Musk said that he didn't expect the rocket to reach orbit. It's a success because it got further down the road and they gained data from the mission. It's not fanboyish to recognize the incremental nature of advances of this type.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 20, 2023 03:00 PM (1Z8zZ)
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at April 20, 2023 03:00 PM (Wy1BU)
I would totally fail.
Posted by: garrett at April 20, 2023 03:00 PM (P7IZS)
I need to know what kind of shirt she is wearing before I can assess her credentials and decide whether to hate her or not.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at April 20, 2023 03:01 PM (ppBhU)
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Not true!
The Left controls all institutions, and therefore controls NASA. NASA does build rockets. They have the SLS super-heavy rocket that has been in development for 12 years at a cost of $24 billion and has had one successful launch. The estimated amortized cost of launches (assuming all missions proceed as planned) will be more than $2 billion each.
SpaceX are pikers by comparison. Starship has been in development for about eight years at a cost of around $2 billion to $5 billion and Musk claims that once successful, launches will cost less than $10 million each. Oh, and Starship is more powerful.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 20, 2023 03:01 PM (t0OGg)
Posted by: garrett
Because they were the ones that wrote the code and built the *thing* and they were surprised it worked.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 20, 2023 03:01 PM (L4Q88)
Nope. You are forgetting NASSA.
https://tinyurl.com/mr3esys8
Posted by: JackStraw at April 20, 2023 03:01 PM (ZLI7S)
Posted by: Regular joe at April 20, 2023 03:01 PM (nnp+f)
Posted by: Lizzy at April 20, 2023 03:01 PM (umIEz)
And he's doing things no one has ever done before.
People cheer for that kind of thing.
Also, he's not spending our tax dollars to do it.
Posted by: Ian S. at April 20, 2023 03:01 PM (ZGrMX)
(here's the windup and the pitch...)
But why does it have to be so big?
Posted by: DB - so you want to go to Mars at April 20, 2023 03:01 PM (geLO8)
That's what they call me. Ol' Rapid Unscheduled Disassembly.
Posted by: John Fetterman at April 20, 2023 02:56 PM (hRS2E)
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But your Lump hasn't exploded yet.
Posted by: Ciampino - new photos of cats https://is.gd/WQ5JcT at April 20, 2023 03:02 PM (qfLjt)
Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at April 20, 2023 02:56 PM (3Or4S)
He's from Wakanda? who knew?
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 20, 2023 03:02 PM (oHd/0)
Posted by: garrett
Why do some people have to piss on everything?
These are the mysteries of life.
Posted by: ... at April 20, 2023 03:02 PM (5jPLo)
Posted by: humphreyrobot at April 20, 2023 03:03 PM (1TD05)
Posted by: DB - so you want to go to Mars at April 20, 2023 02:59 PM (geLO
Each one of the people on that panel had tons more technical education and practical engineering experience than did Walter Cronkite and the other talking heads covering launches that I used to watch in the 60's.
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at April 20, 2023 03:03 PM (Ohafd)
Posted by: DB - so you want to go to Mars at April 20, 2023 02:58 PM (geLO
I am not a rocket surgeon but... I believe that accomplishes two goals:
1. If an engine fails, other engines may succeed so... redundancy.
2. The engines are on gimbles and can be repositioned - slightly - to steer the rocket. More engines equals more granular control.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 20, 2023 03:03 PM (1Z8zZ)
If at first you dont succeed, try, try again.
But that requires dedication, work, perseverance and skill. Something the left has no use for.
Except when it comes to rioting, looting and transitioning innocent children. They got that down pat.
Posted by: Czech Chick at April 20, 2023 03:03 PM (tQVe/)
Posted by: Sean Connery at April 20, 2023 03:03 PM (ZGrMX)
Posted by: garrett at April 20, 2023 02:53 PM (P7IZS)
++++
Because audacious achievements are awesome, including the failures that the audacious achievers hit on the way there. Not to mention the allure of the unknown and the adventure.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 20, 2023 03:03 PM (t0OGg)
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at April 20, 2023 03:03 PM (CcoDx)
Posted by: John Fetterman
***
Seeing how you move about, I doubt there's anything you do rapidly.
Posted by: Azathoth at April 20, 2023 03:03 PM (wb1YC)
It's what rockets do.
Nearly three times the thrust of a Saturn V.
That's really impressive.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at April 20, 2023 03:04 PM (2tUFv)
In my day, we called it an explosion.
Leftists don't know any damn history. "Rapid Unplanned Disassembly" has been a military/NASA tongue in cheek phrase for at least 50 years.
Posted by: bonhomme at April 20, 2023 03:04 PM (R38qh)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at April 20, 2023 03:01 PM (ppBhU)
Hahahaha
Posted by: scampydog at April 20, 2023 03:04 PM (2bFN5)
Name me one contemporary liberal Democrat who has done anything uniquely valuable for the human race. Just one.
Posted by: Marcus T at April 20, 2023 03:04 PM (8Voqu)
Posted by: garrett at April 20, 2023 02:53 PM (P7IZS)
Same reason the cheer for fireworks.
Posted by: Diogenes at April 20, 2023 03:05 PM (anj39)
It's a rocket.
It doesn't have ears.
You are like a mile + away.
Reminds me of the cheering people on the rooftops in Independence Day.
Posted by: garrett at April 20, 2023 03:05 PM (P7IZS)
2. The engines are on gimbles and can be repositioned - slightly - to steer the rocket. More engines equals more granular control.
Right. They said on the stream that 3 of the engines didn't fire today, but they had plenty of backup and everything was still nominal until they couldn't get the booster to let go.
Posted by: Sean Connery at April 20, 2023 03:05 PM (ZGrMX)
Posted by: SamE at April 20, 2023 02:58 PM (DMW5B)
In fairness, you don't need to learn as much when you succeed.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) repeats himself at April 20, 2023 03:05 PM (L57Qg)
Posted by: garrett at April 20, 2023 03:05 PM (P7IZS)
Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at April 20, 2023 03:05 PM (3Or4S)
Posted by: Ian S. at April 20, 2023 03:01 PM (ZGrMX)
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He is. NASA contributes to development, and did so with Falcon.
But he isn't spending all that many of our tax dollars to do it, and could do it without them. For all the rockets SpaceX blows up, the program costs are fairly low. NASA spends years and billions in simulation to minimize launchpad failures by trying to fix as many things as possible in advance. SpaceX puts the rockets together, loads them up with telemetry, and fires them off knowing that failure is likely to get useful data quickly so they can iterate fast.
Falcon after Falcon blew up at first, but they moved quickly to rectify the problems and now it has a remarkable launch (and recovery) record.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 20, 2023 03:06 PM (t0OGg)
Try this line out in your performance reviews.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at April 20, 2023 03:06 PM (ppBhU)
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 20, 2023 03:06 PM (ncXxy)
But think of all the DEI meetings our engineers have to sit through, and all the diversity bureaucrats we have to hire!
Just ensuring that we have the correct racial and LBGTQ2SIA+ quotas for staff takes up most of our time!
Posted by: The ARC of History! at April 20, 2023 03:07 PM (2tUFv)
Posted by: DB - so you want to go to Mars at April 20, 2023 03:07 PM (geLO8)
Posted by: Josh Brolin's Blistered Taint at April 20, 2023 03:07 PM (AANFi)
https://tinyurl.com/yvh6e9bp
I've never heard of this company but suddenly feel a need to buy one of their watches.
Posted by: Cheri at April 20, 2023 03:08 PM (oiNtH)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 20, 2023 03:08 PM (R4Xbm)
If at first you dont succeed, try, try again.
Posted by: Czech Chick at April 20, 2023 03:03 PM (tQVe/)
Edison tried and tried but until the cleaning lady LaQuesha done straightened up his papers and got all dat mess on his desk cleaned up did he finally realize the answer.
You know, like that movie, "Cleopatra Jones Gone Up To Da Moon". Based on a true story so I am told.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 20, 2023 03:08 PM (KRfYs)
Posted by: nurse ratched at April 20, 2023 03:08 PM (ikoqu)
We're trying to figure out if we should tax the thing, fine it, license it, regulate it, ban it, or confiscate it.
Posted by: The Left at April 20, 2023 03:08 PM (e2onP)
Posted by: Cheri
I have one. It is beautiful.
Posted by: nurse ratched at April 20, 2023 03:08 PM (ikoqu)
It is just incredible watching the thing rise so slowly, and inexorably towards the sky.
Posted by: Thatch at April 20, 2023 03:09 PM (Cofqi)
Posted by: DB - so you want to go to Mars at April 20, 2023 03:01 PM (geLO
LOL. Anyone saying that needs to take a physics class.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at April 20, 2023 03:09 PM (BdMk6)
Which people? The people who worked on it? They're cheering because it represents the launch of years of their work, sometimes decades. Rocketry enthusiasts? They're cheering the engineering achievement. Random people? Probably just emoting due to the noise and the spectacle.
Posted by: bonhomme at April 20, 2023 03:09 PM (R38qh)
Posted by: Diogenes at April 20, 2023 03:09 PM (anj39)
Posted by: nurse ratched at April 20, 2023 03:08 PM (ikoqu)
++++
A thing's a phallic symbol if it's longer than it's wide!
But no rocket can even come close to Jeff Bezos' dick rocket:
https://is.gd/mK1xE8
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 20, 2023 03:09 PM (t0OGg)
Posted by: Dorcus Blimeline at April 20, 2023 03:09 PM (snpvX)
Posted by: garrett at April 20, 2023 03:05 PM (P7IZS)
Siddown, eat your gruel and take your Soma.
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at April 20, 2023 03:10 PM (ZSK0i)
Posted by: garrett at April 20, 2023 02:53 PM (P7IZS)
Things that go boom are cool.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 20, 2023 03:10 PM (eoQWY)
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Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 20, 2023 03:06 PM (t0OGg)
You sure on that one? I understood that NASA was contributing money to their effort to create a manned vehicle to go to the moon, but that money was not being spent for the Super Heavy rocket. I could be wrong but that is what I understood from my reading.
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at April 20, 2023 03:10 PM (Ohafd)
Posted by: Every Leftist Grifter/Journalist at April 20, 2023 03:10 PM (7zO45)
Posted by: Czech Chick at April 20, 2023 03:10 PM (tQVe/)
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Except mass destruction, misery, starvation, death camps, and graves.
Posted by: ShainS -- The Abolition of The West is from Men Without Chests at April 20, 2023 03:11 PM (Me9WP)
And it's worth noting that none of their commercial launches have blown up or anything of the sort. They got the data, and they solved the problems. I'm still impressed every time they land the booster on the dot.
Posted by: Ian S. at April 20, 2023 03:11 PM (ZGrMX)
Posted by: Werner Von Braun, totally not an SS Officer at April 20, 2023 03:11 PM (lz5hY)
Posted by: garrett at April 20, 2023 03:05 PM (P7IZS)
Oh, it's the actual act, not the metaphorical cheering.
Humans do that. Like the independence day cheering thing is one of the realistic things about the movie.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at April 20, 2023 03:11 PM (N1tpc)
https://youtu.be/wbSwFU6tY1c?t=1772
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 20, 2023 03:11 PM (t0OGg)
Posted by: garrett at April 20, 2023 03:05 PM (P7IZS)
I mean, have you ever been to a bar on game day?
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at April 20, 2023 03:11 PM (N1tpc)
There were other issues (failing Raptor engines, etc), but the one of the biggest ones were with the HPU's. Sounds like SpaceX already knew they were a problem so the next booster going forward will have electric power units.
Posted by: johnd01 at April 20, 2023 03:11 PM (300Bg)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at April 20, 2023 02:58 PM (ppBhU)
It really, truly *isn't* a failure though. Musk's rocket philosophy is based on Kerbal Space program. When he says before every test "It'll probably blow up" he isn't reducing expectations. He *means* it'll probably blow up (with the goal of the blowing up being later in the flight than the last test and for a different reason)".
SpaceX uses inexpensive stainless steel, and doesn't put people on the rockets until thorough testing, because they *expect* to need quite a few of the things before they have everything worked out.
And now rockets land on their tails like God and Heinlein intended.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 20, 2023 03:12 PM (nC+QA)
Posted by: nurse ratched
Oh good - I'll check them out. Hope your JC survey went well. We had ours in January and we came out unscathed.
Posted by: Cheri at April 20, 2023 03:12 PM (oiNtH)
https://is.gd/mK1xE8
If Bezos had a sense of humor he would've painted the Dr. Evil "E" logo on it.
You know Musk would've, because he chose 4/20 for the first test of the Super Heavy.
Posted by: Ian S. at April 20, 2023 03:12 PM (ZGrMX)
Posted by: Ian S.
That's the amazing thing. NASA never even attempted that.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 20, 2023 03:12 PM (nWPLh)
Posted by: nurse ratched at April 20, 2023 03:08 PM (ikoqu)
nah, normal
Posted by: Shep at April 20, 2023 03:12 PM (us2H3)
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at April 20, 2023 03:10 PM (Ohafd)
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Ah, on that I am not sure. Good distinction. NASA did contribute to Falcon. I am not sure if they are directly underwriting part of Starship or if it's just for the lander, etc.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 20, 2023 03:12 PM (t0OGg)
We're trying to figure out if we should tax the thing, fine it, license it, regulate it, ban it, or confiscate it.
Posted by: The Left at April 20, 2023 03:08 PM (e2onP)
We laugh, but I'm sure there were meetings called within the bowels of the deep state to discuss those very things.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at April 20, 2023 03:12 PM (BdMk6)
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Use their severance pay to get pretend jobs in Farcebook's Metaverse!
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at April 20, 2023 03:12 PM (Vwz3I)
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at April 20, 2023 03:12 PM (L57Qg)
Posted by: nurse ratched at April 20, 2023 03:08 PM (ikoqu)
As well it should.
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at April 20, 2023 03:12 PM (ZSK0i)
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 20, 2023 02:55 PM (oHd/0)
They went through several versions of the craft as a glider, making improvements.
IIRC they had a crash later in 1908 when testing passenger flight and Lt Selfridge, the passenger was killed.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 20, 2023 03:13 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: nurse ratched at April 20, 2023 03:08 PM (ikoqu)
Blue Origin's rocket looks like a penis.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 20, 2023 03:13 PM (N39Ws)
Posted by: Notorious BFD at April 20, 2023 03:13 PM (Xrfse)
The government sector can't fail, risks nothing but re-election, and if a plan doesn't work they don't even do an after-action to figure out why. They either start another parallel program with more money, or double the funding of the one they already set up.
Posted by: Synova at April 20, 2023 03:14 PM (BD/yx)
Posted by: gourmand du jour at April 20, 2023 03:14 PM (jTmQV)
Posted by: bonhomme at April 20, 2023 03:14 PM (R38qh)
Posted by: Notorious BFD at April 20, 2023 03:13 PM (Xrfse)
Yeah, but it was premature...
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 20, 2023 03:14 PM (oHd/0)
Was this a failure? Sort of. But I guarantee that there are a ton of people working through the data to make sure they fix it for the next launch.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Southpaw at April 20, 2023 03:15 PM (xPJvm)
SpaceX are pikers by comparison. Starship has been in development for about eight years at a cost of around $2 billion to $5 billion and Musk claims that once successful, launches will cost less than $10 million each. Oh, and Starship is more powerful.
Posted by: Joe Mannix
Boeing is building the SLS, not NASA. Under contract, over budget, and years behind schedule. People at Boeing mocked the Falcon Heavy, which has now flown 5 times and will probably have two launches this year, maybe three. Who knows when the next SLS will launch, and like the Arianne 6, is ALREADY obsolete.
The Starship has 33 rocket engines (the Raptor engine) because it is easier to build a lot of smaller engines than a few HUGE engines (like the 5 Rocketdyne F-1's that powered the first stage of the Saturn 5). Musk /SPaceX actually studied copying that engine and updating building techniques. Then rejected the idea.
Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at April 20, 2023 03:15 PM (vcOmj)
Posted by: gourmand du jour at April 20, 2023 03:14 PM (jTmQV)
/covers his head...
Posted by: AquaMan at April 20, 2023 03:15 PM (oHd/0)
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at April 20, 2023 03:15 PM (lz5hY)
Posted by: Cheri
We did really well. Thank you.
I have this one
tinyurl.com/yekzkx27
Posted by: nurse ratched at April 20, 2023 03:15 PM (ikoqu)
There's a fourth reason here: team sports mentality. The right has made Elon an honorary member of their club, and the left has excommnicated him. So you'll hear lots of cheering for him, even though he's also the guy helping to promote a technology that will result in cars being so pricey (and then mandatory with the help of our ever beneficient government) that most of us end up on bikes or public transportation. But, yay, some guys are totally going to go to a dead world in the next 10 to 20 years or so. Or something.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at April 20, 2023 03:15 PM (ppBhU)
Signed,
Joe Nobody Fucks With a Biden
Posted by: Ron at April 20, 2023 03:15 PM (7hfg8)
Posted by: DB - so you want to go to Mars at April 20, 2023 03:01 PM (geLO
LOL. Anyone saying that needs to take a physics class.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at April 20, 2023 03:09 PM (BdMk6)
Or human sexuality.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 20, 2023 03:16 PM (1Z8zZ)
Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at April 20, 2023 03:16 PM (oWBc3)
The Starship has 33 rocket engines (the Raptor engine) because it is easier to build a lot of smaller engines than a few HUGE engines (like the 5 Rocketdyne F-1's that powered the first stage of the Saturn 5). Musk /SPaceX actually studied copying that engine and updating building techniques. Then rejected the idea.
Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at April 20, 2023 03:15 PM (vcOmj)
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Right, thanks for the correction. It is Boeing, but a NASA project.
I doubt they're mocking the Falcon 9 or the Heavy variant now. The Falcon has an exceptional track record.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 20, 2023 03:16 PM (t0OGg)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at April 20, 2023 03:16 PM (w0NJk)
I thought the same thing. I big black and white Dong.
A monument to Musk and his manhood.
Posted by: Czech Chick at April 20, 2023 03:10 PM (tQVe/)
I remember a mock politically correct fantasy story where Goblins were flying on balloons and 51 percent were half spheres with a little blip on top and half were pseudo cigar shaped.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 20, 2023 03:16 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: BurtTC at April 20, 2023 03:16 PM (3r3Ol)
https://youtu.be/4rvetP_Kcgk
Posted by: Lost In Space at April 20, 2023 03:17 PM (iGfKR)
Posted by: profligatewaste at April 20, 2023 03:17 PM (Be3jb)
Posted by: mrp at April 20, 2023 03:15 PM (rj6Yv)
Posted by: mrp at April 20, 2023 03:17 PM (rj6Yv)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at April 20, 2023 03:15 PM (ppBhU)
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Maybe. Not for me. SpaceX is one hell of an achievement.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 20, 2023 03:17 PM (t0OGg)
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at April 20, 2023 03:17 PM (Vwz3I)
Posted by: gourmand du jour
This one exploded on landing.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 20, 2023 03:17 PM (nWPLh)
In basically all tech related fields it's super common to build something just to find out if it works, or if it's what customers want. Half of the time it takes to write software is iterating on things because the designers invariably don't know what they want, but they can tell you when they see it. Like SCOTUS on pornography.
Posted by: Ian S. at April 20, 2023 03:17 PM (ZGrMX)
Posted by: Gonzotx at April 20, 2023 03:18 PM (MwHgU)
Posted by: JT Smith at April 20, 2023 03:18 PM (FxdZx)
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at April 20, 2023 03:17 PM (Vwz3I)
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*snort*
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 20, 2023 03:18 PM (t0OGg)
In basically all tech related fields it's super common to build something just to find out if it works, or if it's what customers want. Half of the time it takes to write software is iterating on things because the designers invariably don't know what they want, but they can tell you when they see it. Like SCOTUS on pornography.
Posted by: Ian S. at April 20, 2023 03:17 PM (ZGrMX)
There's a common term "smoke test". Its turn on the unit for the first time with real power, see if it catches on fire. Often enough, it does catch on fire and you find out why.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 20, 2023 03:19 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: John Fetterman at April 20, 2023 03:19 PM (vwCZJ)
Amen. It is a singular moment of humans making reality out their ideas.
Posted by: Lost In Space at April 20, 2023 03:20 PM (iGfKR)
Don't know, but SpaceX will likely report on that.
This was also a Methane/Oxygen fueled rocket (Methlox) and that has not been successfully done before, either.
The Starship launched today had hydraulic controls on the engines that gymbal to guide the rocket. SpaceX is switching to electronic controls on subsequent Starship boosters, which is an improvement.
There will likely be several iterations of improvement on Starship and the heavy booster, before success becomes routine. That's what happened with the Falcon rocket, and it is far less complex.
Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at April 20, 2023 03:20 PM (vcOmj)
Them Greek homos stole our rockets - Al Sharpton, scientist and historian
Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 20, 2023 03:20 PM (Uk8NJ)
Posted by: garrett at April 20, 2023 03:20 PM (P7IZS)
Posted by: Fetterman's Lump at April 20, 2023 03:20 PM (Vu7A1)
Posted by: rickb223 at April 20, 2023 03:21 PM (nWPLh)
Posted by: JM in Fla/Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at April 20, 2023 03:21 PM (t06Vm)
tinyurl.com/yekzkx27
Posted by: nurse ratched at April 20, 2023 03:15 PM (ikoqu)
^^Very pretty. Now you just need a rose gold handgun to match...
Posted by: Iris at April 20, 2023 03:21 PM (NaH5I)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 20, 2023 03:21 PM (n+4am)
My favorite is "lithobraking," for your rocket hitting the ground at-speed.
Posted by: mikeski at April 20, 2023 03:21 PM (Jo/bf)
Posted by: Ian S. at April 20, 2023 03:17 PM (ZGrMX)
You also test to destruction... slowly making things harder and harder until it fails... so you know WHEN it will fail.
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 20, 2023 03:21 PM (oHd/0)
> It's what rockets do.
Yep. If you're designing rockets and not blowing one up once in a while, you're not really advancing the state of the art.
OT: I see Fox has fired Maria Bartiromo. I happen to have a sex kitten position open. I wonder if she'd be interested.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at April 20, 2023 03:21 PM (bW8dp)
We're trying to figure out if we should tax the thing, fine it, license it, regulate it, ban it, or confiscate it.
Posted by: The Left at April 20, 2023 03:08 PM (e2onP)
We laugh, but I'm sure there were meetings called within the bowels of the deep state to discuss those very things.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at April 20, 2023 03:12 PM (BdMk6)
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You need to work 'interdiction' and 'impact' into that discussion. The Military loves those words.
Posted by: Ciampino -- new photos of cats https://is.gd/WQ5JcT at April 20, 2023 03:22 PM (qfLjt)
Posted by: garrett at April 20, 2023 03:22 PM (P7IZS)
Posted by: Schroeder at April 20, 2023 03:22 PM (sPYbd)
Drawing success from failure is common here, but take note of what happened before the boom:
The thing did three or four 360 degree roll overs without breaking up.
Never saw any kind of rocket show that kind of structural strength.
Posted by: Auspex at April 20, 2023 03:22 PM (j4U/Z)
Posted by: Gonzotx
#NoTrannies
Posted by: rickb223 at April 20, 2023 03:21 PM (nWPLh)
#NoMuslimOutreach
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 20, 2023 03:22 PM (N39Ws)
Posted by: ... at April 20, 2023 03:23 PM (WZk8x)
Posted by: JT Smith at April 20, 2023 03:18 PM (FxdZx)
They get into the HR departments, then pack management and every decision-making role with leftoids or milquetoasts who won't oppose them.
That's how they take over, and until the corporate world figures out that HR is too important to give to purple-haired feminists with grievance studies degrees, things will not improve.
Posted by: Cato, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at April 20, 2023 03:23 PM (MIb2C)
The technical term for that is a Triple Lindy
Posted by: garrett at April 20, 2023 03:23 PM (P7IZS)
Posted by: Gonzotx
64? uh... by being better at math then you are?
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 20, 2023 03:23 PM (oHd/0)
Posted by: Gonzotx at April 20, 2023 03:18 PM (MwHgU)
With math. We had people who understood math back then. Now we have people who know how to use computers.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 20, 2023 03:23 PM (3r3Ol)
Posted by: rickb223 at April 20, 2023 03:21 PM (nWPLh)
Yep. The communists hadn't taken over the universities, so we had engineers who'd spent more time learning calculus, statics, and dynamics, than they spent on learning about 57 "genders".
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at April 20, 2023 03:24 PM (bW8dp)
The technical term for that is a Triple Lindy
Posted by: garrett at April 20, 2023 03:23 PM (P7IZS)
Missed the second board...
Posted by: Rodney Dangerfield at April 20, 2023 03:24 PM (oHd/0)
Posted by: JT Smith at April 20, 2023 03:18 PM (FxdZx)
I've always found it funny that they try to critique Trump for his bankruptcies, when it's arguably one of his stronger attributes: he's willing to take risks, and understands how important failure can be.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at April 20, 2023 03:24 PM (wmDcS)
Posted by: Gonzotx
#NoTrannies
Posted by: rickb223 at April 20, 2023 03:21 PM (nWPLh)
#NoMuslimOutreach
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed
#CompetencyOnly
Posted by: rickb223 at April 20, 2023 03:24 PM (nWPLh)
Posted by: Gerry Parker at April 20, 2023 03:24 PM (Ahg10)
Posted by: Gonzotx at April 20, 2023 03:18 PM (MwHgU)
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A room full of people who knew how to actually do math, and did that instead of pondering the racial sensitivity of pancake syrup.
Posted by: reason at April 20, 2023 03:24 PM (0mN7F)
Posted by: Gonzotx
64? uh... by being better at math then you are?
Posted by: Romeo13
Slide Rules rule.
Posted by: Lost In Space at April 20, 2023 03:24 PM (iGfKR)
Posted by: humphreyrobot at April 20, 2023 03:24 PM (1TD05)
Heh.
Posted by: Sharkman at April 20, 2023 03:24 PM (PMYn/)
Never saw any kind of rocket show that kind of structural strength.
Yeah, that was pretty impressive. If I understand correctly, the first rollover was intentional (it was supposed to be when the boosters detached) and the others weren't.
Posted by: Ian S. at April 20, 2023 03:25 PM (ZGrMX)
Posted by: garrett at April 20, 2023 03:20 PM (P7IZS)
I've always thought it amusing but it's kind of a camaraderie thing. A bit tribal maybe. You just can't help being your own dude.
Posted by: ... at April 20, 2023 03:25 PM (WZk8x)
Posted by: Cato, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at April 20, 2023 03:23 PM (MIb2C)
HR was already poison before the woke move in. Get rid of it with the rest. Have a secretary or two send out emails nobody wants to read.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 20, 2023 03:25 PM (eoQWY)
The technical term for that is a Triple Lindy
Posted by: garrett at April 20, 2023 03:23 PM (P7IZS)
Yet only got a 3.7 from the East German judge. Typical.
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at April 20, 2023 03:25 PM (N3zMI)
Posted by: mrp at April 20, 2023 03:25 PM (rj6Yv)
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at April 20, 2023 03:21 PM (bW8dp)
++++
He peak was her wet-lipped, wide-eyed coverage of the 2008-2009 financial crisis.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 20, 2023 03:26 PM (t0OGg)
OT: I see Fox has fired Maria Bartiromo. I happen to have a sex kitten position open. I wonder if she'd be interested.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at April 20, 2023 03:21 PM (bW8dp)
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Is this related to the Dominion lawsuit payou?
Posted by: JM in Fla/Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at April 20, 2023 03:26 PM (t06Vm)
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at April 20, 2023 03:26 PM (L57Qg)
The technical term for that is a Triple Lindy
Posted by: garrett
By the time Hannity is over tonight it will be a Triple Ms. Lindsey.
Posted by: Lost In Space at April 20, 2023 03:26 PM (iGfKR)
Posted by: Gonzotx
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Make Slide Rules and Crew Cuts Great Again!
Posted by: ShainS -- The Abolition of The West is from Men Without Chests at April 20, 2023 03:26 PM (vjUoM)
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Unfortunately, can't get it out of first Gere!
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at April 20, 2023 03:26 PM (Vwz3I)
Posted by: BurtTC at April 20, 2023 03:23 PM (3r3Ol)
Now we have people who know how to follow orders and that's about it. But at least that's never lead anywhere bad before.
Posted by: ... at April 20, 2023 03:26 PM (WZk8x)
My favorite is "lithobraking," for your rocket hitting the ground at-speed.
Posted by: mikeski at April 20, 2023 03:21 PM (Jo/bf)
Exactly!
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 20, 2023 03:27 PM (nC+QA)
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at April 20, 2023 03:24 PM (wmDcS)
And when something fails, you LET IT DIE instead of keeping its festering corpse around like a ghoul.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 20, 2023 03:27 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: Iris
I really like my EMP Ronin. It's very pretty.
Posted by: nurse ratched at April 20, 2023 03:27 PM (nTENC)
Every human act has an element of failure. Did Musk's team make an advancement that's never been done before? Yes. Is that a great achievement? Yes. Did it explode. Yep. Will that kill the project? Nope. They'll learn and iterate.
You're acting like the dick who bitterly criticizes parents who are excited about their baby taking first steps. "Stop being fanboys, your idiot kid fell on his ass."
Posted by: bonhomme at April 20, 2023 03:27 PM (R38qh)
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at April 20, 2023 03:21 PM (bW8dp)
How does a gal get fired from foxnooz these days? Used to be she was unwilling to be tag teamed by Ailes and O'Reilly. Maybe it's failing to get Hannity hard, but I'm guessing that's REALLY hard to do anyway.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 20, 2023 03:27 PM (3r3Ol)
They think the right blindly followed Trump because he's rich, because it's what the Left does. So if they can prove he's not rich his support will evaporate. Seriously, I've heard Democrats actually say that.
Posted by: Ian S. at April 20, 2023 03:27 PM (ZGrMX)
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Unfortunately, can't get it out of first Gere!
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at April 20, 2023 03:26 PM (Vwz3I)
*golf clap*
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at April 20, 2023 03:27 PM (N3zMI)
tinyurl.com/yekzkx27
Posted by: nurse ratched
Beautiful! I think that I just found my next watch - I was looking for one with a rose gold touch and black....this is it!
Posted by: Cheri at April 20, 2023 03:28 PM (oiNtH)
Posted by: Gonzotx
#NoTrannies
Posted by: rickb223 at April 20, 2023 03:21 PM (nWPLh)
#NoMuslimOutreach
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 20, 2023 03:22 PM (N39Ws)
***
A bunch of engineers were trying like hell to stay out of Vietnam.
Posted by: Diogenes at April 20, 2023 03:28 PM (anj39)
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 20, 2023 03:21 PM (oHd/0)
And which component will be first to go. Usually it's the Illudium Q-36 explosive space modulator.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 20, 2023 03:28 PM (1Z8zZ)
https://is.gd/ygD8Gd
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 20, 2023 03:28 PM (t0OGg)
Nope. Sitting behind Trump while he pasted Hillary at the correspondents dinner.
Posted by: ... at April 20, 2023 03:28 PM (WZk8x)
That's too bad, she was a major upgrade over Chris Wallace on the Sunday show. Do we know why?
Posted by: Ian S. at April 20, 2023 03:28 PM (ZGrMX)
Posted by: DB
How else are they going to unlock Mars?
Posted by: BifBewalski at April 20, 2023 03:28 PM (3CCua)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at April 20, 2023 03:06 PM (ppBhU)
If you are doing something new and innovative, it is what you say. Never failing means never advancing.
Posted by: Crom Laughs at April 20, 2023 03:28 PM (LRhmV)
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You should get a load of the Jeff Bezos rocket, aka "The Flying Phallus"
Posted by: JM in Fla/Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at April 20, 2023 03:29 PM (t06Vm)
I love the "Afrocentric" claim that Aristotle "stole his ideas from the Library of Alexandria"...which was a city founded by Alexander the Great...who was Aristotle's pupil as a child. The library came much later.
That Aristotle was a sneaky bastard, for sure...stealing ideas from a library that didn't even exist until around 50 years after he was dead.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at April 20, 2023 03:29 PM (bW8dp)
Posted by: rickb223 at April 20, 2023 03:29 PM (nWPLh)
Posted by: hILLRY o O at April 20, 2023 03:29 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: ... at April 20, 2023 03:28 PM (WZk8x)
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I haven't seen that.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 20, 2023 03:29 PM (t0OGg)
Posted by: ... at April 20, 2023 03:26 PM (WZk8x)
Begs the question, who had more nazis, the old space program or the new space program?
Posted by: BurtTC at April 20, 2023 03:29 PM (3r3Ol)
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons
I was just teeing up a joke for the commenters
Posted by: DB - so you want to go to Mars at April 20, 2023 03:30 PM (geLO8)
Posted by: nurse ratched at April 20, 2023 03:08 PM (ikoqu)
And it launched on 4/20.
Elon Musk is a billionaire playboy philanthropist. An eccentric billionaire playboy philanthropist.
Posted by: blaster at April 20, 2023 03:30 PM (A0n2W)
Posted by: Jen the original at April 20, 2023 03:30 PM (lpJh7)
Posted by: BurtTC at April 20, 2023 03:27 PM (3r3Ol)
Hitting the wall a bit too long ago without getting any reputation as connected or wise is the usual reason. Leaves space for the next blond hottie newsreader.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 20, 2023 03:30 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: JM in Fla/Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at April 20, 2023 03:29 PM (t06Vm)
++++
I put in a link @93.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 20, 2023 03:30 PM (t0OGg)
Posted by: ShainS -- The Abolition of The West is from Men Without Chests at April 20, 2023 03:26 PM (vjUoM)
I've still got 5 unused pocket protectors in my desk drawer alongside 2 very well used slide rules.
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at April 20, 2023 03:30 PM (Ohafd)
Posted by: Rdubs at April 20, 2023 03:30 PM (wUAII)
Posted by: Gonzotx
64? uh... by being better at math then you are?
Posted by: Romeo13
The Saturn 5 that launched Apollo 8 around the Moon in 1968, and then sent Apollo 9, 10 and finally Apollo 11 to the Moon landing (and subsequent landing missions) was a tremendous piece of design and engineering. The men who designed it were really brilliant. There had to be zero defect engineering and a lot of specialty parts to make the engines work were rejected for having tiny flaws. Parts were x-rayed, and even tiny flaws were cause for rejection.
The engine design of the Rocketdyne F-1 engines actually began in the 1950's by the Air Force for an ICBM, until they realized that H Bombs were not going to be that heavy. NASA picked up on the design and made it work.
Despite what people might say about the 1960's, that was probably the Apex of American civilization. The future was sabotaged by the undermining effects of New Deal and Great Society welfare projects.
Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at April 20, 2023 03:30 PM (vcOmj)
Posted by: Ian S. at April 20, 2023 03:28 PM (ZGrMX)
Probably because her pussy is tighter.
Oh you meant why was she fired
Posted by: ... at April 20, 2023 03:30 PM (WZk8x)
Posted by: SOMEASSHOLESTOLEMYPEN at April 20, 2023 03:31 PM (ytSiK)
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at April 20, 2023 03:21 PM (bW8dp)
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I'm available!!!
Posted by: Dylan Mulvaney at April 20, 2023 03:31 PM (17s+e)
Posted by: Ian S. at April 20, 2023 03:28 PM (ZGrMX)
She was one who questioned election results... expect Judge Pirro to be next.
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 20, 2023 03:31 PM (oHd/0)
This is why I think there's a lot of Elon fanboys. Because you think that my opinion that exploding is not the definition of success is "acting like a dick" instead of merely looking at the situation wrongly. There's a level emotional investment in that kind of retort, an emotional investment that I am in no way obligated to share.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at April 20, 2023 03:31 PM (ppBhU)
Posted by: DB - so you want to go to Mars at April 20, 2023 03:31 PM (geLO8)
She still looks fine to me... no sign of a wall that I can see.
But then I'm 29. Lovey Howell became an option for me along with Ginger and Mary Ann quite some time ago.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at April 20, 2023 03:32 PM (bW8dp)
Posted by: Zek at April 20, 2023 03:32 PM (5FPX4)
Rarely does one succeed on the first attempt. Or the second. Sometimes it takes dozens of tries. With each failure, there is an adjustment. And a learning curve.
Then, if you are resilient enough, success!
Posted by: nurse ratched at April 20, 2023 03:32 PM (xZri3)
Posted by: DB - so you want to go to Mars at April 20, 2023 03:32 PM (geLO8)
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at April 20, 2023 03:32 PM (vHIgi)
Posted by: Crom Laughs at April 20, 2023 03:32 PM (LRhmV)
Chicago police say they are monitoring teen activity on social media so they can make a safety plan for this weekend. Fences have been set up around Millennium Park where hundreds of teens gathered last weekend creating chaos.
There's also a special curfew in place at Millennium Park where unaccompanied minors cannot enter without an adult after 6 p.m.
Police announced Wednesday that an investigation has been launched after victims claimed some patrols ignored pleas for help Saturday night.
Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at April 20, 2023 03:33 PM (MFZ8i)
Posted by: Ian S. at April 20, 2023 03:27 PM (ZGrMX)
It was why the tax returns were their White Whale. They wanted to prove he wasn't really a billionaire. My Lefty friends wanted to believe that really really hard. It was sad, really.
Posted by: blaster at April 20, 2023 03:33 PM (A0n2W)
There's also a special curfew in place at Millennium Park where unaccompanied minors cannot enter without an adult after 6 p.m. ...
Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at April 20, 2023 03:33 PM (MFZ8i)
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This sounds a bit like preparing to fight the last war, but I am not sure.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 20, 2023 03:33 PM (t0OGg)
Posted by: Zek at April 20, 2023 03:34 PM (5FPX4)
Posted by: Gonzotx at April 20, 2023 03:18 PM (MwHgU)
We didn't. It was all faked. I saw it in that movie with Elliott Gould.
Elliott Gould, proof that the 1970s had some ugly mofos in the movies. Who the fuck thought it was a good idea to film that ugly bastard.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 20, 2023 03:34 PM (KRfYs)
I love the "Afrocentric" claim that Aristotle "stole his ideas from the Library of Alexandria"...which was a city founded by Alexander the Great...who was Aristotle's pupil as a child. The library came much later.
That Aristotle was a sneaky bastard, for sure...stealing ideas from a library that didn't even exist until around 50 years after he was dead.
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*rolls eyes*
DUH Time Machine!!
Posted by: Seriously DAAAAAD!! at April 20, 2023 03:34 PM (sh1GZ)
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at April 20, 2023 03:21 PM (bW8dp)
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I'm available!!!
Posted by: Dylan Mulvaney
Man Dog Pig, Ritz!
Posted by: John Fetterman at April 20, 2023 03:34 PM (iGfKR)
Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at April 20, 2023 03:30 PM (vcOmj)
NASA went terminal the day the Shuttle Exploded. They had tried to convince people that going to space was safe, even sending School Teachers in publicity stunts.
The older astronauts KNEW the risks, and took them willingly... but they were swashbuckling adventurer types... losing one of them would be 'expected' by the public.
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 20, 2023 03:34 PM (oHd/0)
Posted by: mrp at April 20, 2023 03:34 PM (rj6Yv)
What a pisser. The last time I was there, a decade or so ago, it was a safe, peaceful place. Lovely park, and they had a good orchestra playing.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at April 20, 2023 03:34 PM (bW8dp)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 20, 2023 03:29 PM (t0OGg)
Worth the watch. 2016
Posted by: ... at April 20, 2023 03:34 PM (WZk8x)
Posted by: blaster
The guy works 12-16 hours a day. I would hardly call him a playboy. He hires A and A+ people and drives them hard. The results speak for themselves.
He does not hire a lot of B, C or D people and expect them to produce.
Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at April 20, 2023 03:34 PM (vcOmj)
Fences have been set up around Millennium Park where hundreds of teens gathered last weekend creating
Police announced Wednesday that an investigation has been launched after victims claimed some patrols ignored pleas for help Saturday night.
Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at April 20, 2023 03:33 PM (MFZ8i)
So if they go anywhere *other* than that one part, its smooth sailing and even legal, right?
And patrols in Chicago have been ignoring pleas since forever. Investigation hah.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 20, 2023 03:35 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: hILLRY o O at April 20, 2023 03:35 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: wth at April 20, 2023 03:36 PM (v0R5T)
"I hope and pray that enough becomes enough. We wondered that through our entire presidency."
So, there you have it from the former co-POTUS
Posted by: bed head at April 20, 2023 03:36 PM (Y1sOo)
Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-Tempus belli) at April 20, 2023 03:36 PM (l7Kbv)
Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at April 20, 2023 03:33 PM (MFZ8i)
An immediate cordon and weapons free? Really, that is what it is going to take.
Posted by: Crom Laughs at April 20, 2023 03:36 PM (LRhmV)
Posted by: Crom Laughs at April 20, 2023 03:36 PM (LRhmV)
A whiff of the grape.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at April 20, 2023 03:37 PM (L57Qg)
Posted by: micky at April 20, 2023 03:37 PM (3byMq)
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia
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WHAT? What did she do, speak some truth?
Posted by: wth at April 20, 2023 03:37 PM (v0R5T)
He does not hire a lot of B, C or D people and expect them to produce.
Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at April 20, 2023 03:34 PM (vcOmj
He's got like ten kids with flour or five women.
It's not ALL work.
Posted by: blaster at April 20, 2023 03:37 PM (A0n2W)
The older astronauts KNEW the risks, and took them willingly... but they were swashbuckling adventurer types... losing one of them would be 'expected' by the public.
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 20, 2023 03:34 PM (oHd/0)
NASA was nearly dead already by then. They were too afraid of Proxmire in Congress and had pulled back to a too small program that lived with flaws instead of fixing them. Then the first shuttle loss caused them to do nothing and the second one put in the last nail.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 20, 2023 03:38 PM (eoQWY)
I can't wait for the Democrat Convention.
Posted by: Lost In Space at April 20, 2023 03:38 PM (iGfKR)
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 20, 2023 03:38 PM (oHd/0)
Posted by: ... at April 20, 2023 03:39 PM (WZk8x)
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I had just finished a consulting job for the shuttle's Deployed Satellite System (DSS which was a 40 foot long fishing pole) and having a relaxing cup of coffee watching that when it went boom. The DSS project was scheduled to go on the next shuttle but went up 5+ years later.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at April 20, 2023 03:39 PM (17s+e)
No, I think your aggressive ignorance of the achievement that happened before the explosion and myopic focus only on the explosion is, "acting like a dick." If you took some time to acknowledge what happened before the explosion and still concluded it was a failure, then I'd only argue you were wrong.
Posted by: bonhomme at April 20, 2023 03:39 PM (R38qh)
Posted by: DB - so you want to go to Mars at April 20, 2023 03:39 PM (geLO8)
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 20, 2023 03:38 PM (oHd/0)
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Oh, no!
Anyway...
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 20, 2023 03:39 PM (t0OGg)
Posted by: Oldcat at April 20, 2023 03:25 PM (eoQWY)
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As someone who began working in the Bay Area Tech Corporate World beginning in the mid-80's, I can attest to the truth of this statement.
In the early 90s, I was reported to HR twice by the same SJW Karen co-worker for creating a "hostile work environment."
1. After a gay co-worker started flying a Gay Pride flag outside his office door, I decided to fly an American flag outside of mine. I told her and HR to grow the fuck up and shove it up their asses -- and refused to remove it until the Gay Pride flag came down -- which of course they could not countenance.
2. Made a joke while talking to my boss that she overheard; it involved a gun, and I told them to go pound sand, quitting on the spot when the guy was worth 20 Karens in productivity, camaraderie, teamwork, communication, overall value, etc.
Posted by: ShainS -- The Abolition of The West is from Men Without Chests at April 20, 2023 03:39 PM (tYETB)
Posted by: wth at April 20, 2023 03:37 PM (v0R5T)
Looking upthread, the answer appears to be "yes".
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at April 20, 2023 03:39 PM (ZSK0i)
Buzzfeed shuts down.
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 20, 2023 03:38 PM (oHd/0)
Who will make our lists of five things that will SHOCK YOU now?
There will be a List Gap with the Russians!
Posted by: Oldcat at April 20, 2023 03:40 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at April 20, 2023 03:40 PM (ssESX)
Posted by: DB - so you want to go to Mars at April 20, 2023 03:39 PM (geLO
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But I keep being told that women are better drivers, so wouldn't emphasizing male safety (even that were happening, which it isn't) be more equitable given that men are statistically more likely to need those safety features?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 20, 2023 03:41 PM (t0OGg)
I can't wait for the Democrat Convention.
Posted by: Lost In Space at April 20, 2023 03:38 PM (iGfKR)
Uh, how the Police 'monitoring social Media' for teens? Do they have probable cause to even be out looking? Or is this just another admission that we live under constant State surveillance.
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 20, 2023 03:41 PM (oHd/0)
It's not ALL work.
He didn't enjot any of that though. He only did that because he's a superpatriot. He did those children for us, for America.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at April 20, 2023 03:41 PM (ppBhU)
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 20, 2023 03:38 PM (oHd/0)
Buzzfeed news, not Buzzfeed.com. They are putting all their "news" eggs into the Huffpost basket which they also own.
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at April 20, 2023 03:41 PM (Ohafd)
Posted by: ... at April 20, 2023 03:41 PM (WZk8x)
It's worth noting again that the second one was due to changes made to appease the green lobby.
Posted by: Ian S. at April 20, 2023 03:41 PM (ZGrMX)
Posted by: tubal at April 20, 2023 03:41 PM (PCK5/)
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at April 20, 2023 03:41 PM (BdMk6)
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 20, 2023 03:42 PM (E9Gzz)
Posted by: Jen the original at April 20, 2023 03:42 PM (lpJh7)
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The important thing to remember is that obese black women did all the math.
Posted by: Biden: MAGA surrendered America to China at April 20, 2023 03:42 PM (wqFd7)
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at April 20, 2023 03:37 PM (L57Qg)
They've let the situation get so out of control, that that is the only option at this point. Arresting a handful won't do anything. Their failure to do their job up to this point means the only options are continuing collapse or blood. They'll choose the former. I would choose the latter and afterwards let it be known that any attempt to memorialize the thugs will be crushed.
Posted by: Crom Laughs at April 20, 2023 03:42 PM (LRhmV)
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You do not have access to is.gd.
The site owner may have set restrictions that prevent you from accessing the site.
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I don't mind missing out on a view of Bezos's pants rocket, but I can't access the blonde in red either
Posted by: JM in Fla/Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at April 20, 2023 03:42 PM (t06Vm)
Posted by: DB - so you want to go to Mars at April 20, 2023 03:39 PM (geLO
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I don't understand why the DUmmys couldn't have just identified as female. Would have saved time and money. You'd think that Peter Squeakholer would have thought of that.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at April 20, 2023 03:42 PM (17s+e)
The TwatterRagers homeless tent compound is full up. Where will the BuzzFeeders go!
Posted by: Lost In Space at April 20, 2023 03:42 PM (iGfKR)
Posted by: mrp at April 20, 2023 03:42 PM (rj6Yv)
Posted by: I'm Gumby Damnit! at April 20, 2023 03:42 PM (TRzws)
Posted by: Oldcat at April 20, 2023 03:38 PM (eoQWY)
Why, it's almost as if the belief government destroys everything it touches might have some validity to it.
Almost.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 20, 2023 03:43 PM (3r3Ol)
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It was. Rarely do we witness something that is this awesome.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at April 20, 2023 03:43 PM (lf83v)
He does not hire a lot of B, C or D people and expect them to produce.
Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at April 20, 2023 03:34 PM (vcOmj
He's got like ten kids with flour or five women.
It's not ALL work.
He's also of the opinion that smart people should reproduce. Why this is controversial is unclear to me.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 20, 2023 03:43 PM (eOEVl)
Automotive engineers cheer when they pass IIHS crash tests even though the car's now totaled. Same thing.
Posted by: Ian S. at April 20, 2023 03:43 PM (ZGrMX)
Maybe after we manage to build a space elevator we can avoid the launch from Earth.
Posted by: bonhomme at April 20, 2023 03:43 PM (R38qh)
Posted by: Paolo at April 20, 2023 03:43 PM (GjRvg)
How often do you get see that much money turned into fireworks?
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at April 20, 2023 03:44 PM (Bd6X8)
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at April 20, 2023 03:42 PM (17s+e)
With their flat chests and lack of male parts, the dummies are obviously trans- whatevers, and Woke as all getout.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 20, 2023 03:44 PM (eoQWY)
Who said I am only focused on that? Not me. Here's my original comment based on what Ace wrote:
[ace] Sometimes when you try to do something no one's ever done, you fail.
[me] True. I can accept this. I have more difficulty with the fanboyish "this isn't a failure" though.
Plenty of people here have emphasized that one learns through failure (sometimes). I don't disagree. I just disagree with the shareholder-oriented this-is-the-definition-of-success happy talk. But that's too much for the fanboys. I must stand on my chair and applaud.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at April 20, 2023 03:44 PM (ppBhU)
Posted by: DB - so you want to go to Mars at April 20, 2023 03:39 PM (geLO
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WHEN WILL POTHOLE PETE PUT AN END TO THE INEQUITABLE AUTOMOBILE CRASH GENOCIDE AGAINST TRANSGENDERS!
"What do we want?"
"Trans Crash Test Dummies!"
"When do we want them?"
'NOW!"
Posted by: ShainS -- The Abolition of The West is from Men Without Chests at April 20, 2023 03:44 PM (tYETB)
Chicago delenda est.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 20, 2023 03:44 PM (eOEVl)
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What if the male dummies identify as women?
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at April 20, 2023 03:44 PM (lf83v)
It's not ALL work.
Posted by: blaster
10 kids. 20 minutes. Tops.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 20, 2023 03:44 PM (nWPLh)
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at April 20, 2023 03:40 PM (ssESX)
KERBAL SPACE PROGRAM! Seriously. it's the basis of Musk's rocket philosophy and people would sound less foolish if they understood that.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 20, 2023 03:44 PM (nC+QA)
Fences have been set up around Millennium Park where hundreds of teens gathered last weekend creating
Police announced Wednesday that an investigation has been launched after victims claimed some patrols ignored pleas for help Saturday night.
Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at April 20, 2023 03:33 PM (MFZ8i)
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Shouldn't they get the youts inside the fence first?
Posted by: Diogenes at April 20, 2023 03:45 PM (anj39)
Maybe after we manage to build a space elevator we can avoid the launch from Earth.
Posted by: bonhomme at April 20, 2023 03:43 PM (R38qh)
Yeah the nanotubes are not ready for primetime yet….
Posted by: tubal at April 20, 2023 03:45 PM (PCK5/)
well at any rate, it's good to know Secretary Buttsex has solved the train derailment issue, and has moved on to other issues
Posted by: DB - so you want to go to Mars at April 20, 2023 03:45 PM (geLO8)
Posted by: ... at April 20, 2023 03:41 PM (WZk8x)
Doesn't she know those Male dummies self identify as Females! so it AOK!
Trans Dummies!
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 20, 2023 03:45 PM (oHd/0)
"Trans Crash Test Dummies!"
"When do we want them?"
'NOW!"
IIRC, the current models don't have genitalia, so, mission accomplished?
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at April 20, 2023 03:45 PM (Bd6X8)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 20, 2023 03:45 PM (Wl6Ns)
Posted by: JM in Fla/Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at April 20, 2023 03:42 PM (t06Vm)
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Weird. Working fine for me.
Rocket: https://bit.ly/3MXeksj
Blonde: https://bit.ly/3Lfg3bc
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 20, 2023 03:45 PM (t0OGg)
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Yeah. Good idea. Better check out OnlyFans for clues, guys.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at April 20, 2023 03:46 PM (lf83v)
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 20, 2023 03:46 PM (oHd/0)
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at April 20, 2023 03:40 PM (ssESX)
They got it launched, it made it to the separation point, and the failsafe worked when the separation failed. They made progress. It didn't fail to launch. It didn't blow up seconds after launch. They made progress. This isn't doing one or two tasks and failing at them all. It is incremental. If you get depressed everytime you failed at a huge multi-step process, you're doomed.
Posted by: Crom Laughs at April 20, 2023 03:46 PM (LRhmV)
Best advertising Trump could do.
Cosmic level trolling for both Elon and Trump.
Posted by: Beyond Norman Parameters at April 20, 2023 03:46 PM (49t7p)
It's not ALL work.
Posted by: blaster at April 20, 2023 03:37 PM (A0n2W)
Including two sets of twins and a set of triplets. Yeesh.
Posted by: Jordan61 at April 20, 2023 03:46 PM (DRSnL)
Posted by: DB - so you want to go to Mars at April 20, 2023 03:39 PM (geLO
So. I parking is off the test schedule then?
Posted by: Diogenes at April 20, 2023 03:46 PM (anj39)
Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at April 20, 2023 03:46 PM (CecP5)
Posted by: The key to success at April 20, 2023 03:47 PM (GjRvg)
My Mom will have nobody to watch anymore, except Tucker, but she's in bed by then.
Posted by: wth at April 20, 2023 03:47 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: ... at April 20, 2023 03:41 PM (WZk8x)
If she wanted to feel represented, could they just buy a bunch of surplus ET dolls?
Posted by: BurtTC at April 20, 2023 03:47 PM (3r3Ol)
Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 20, 2023 02:54 PM (lTGtQ)
It was. I was surprised it went that far. BUT I think they're going to have to rethink some things on the basic design.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at April 20, 2023 02:59 PM (BdMk6)
Maybe, maybe not. Depends on what failed. It looked to me like the first stage shut down, as planned, but the second stage didn't separate when it was supposed to. As a result, the second stage didn't fire, leaving the whole assembly to tumble a couple of times, then it either broke up due to aerodynamic stress or was intentional blown up by the range safety system.
Posted by: a.moron at April 20, 2023 03:47 PM (tu3iY)
Posted by: JOHN FETTERMAN at April 20, 2023 03:48 PM (jM1wU)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority
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Hi Putin!
Posted by: The hint is in the nick at April 20, 2023 03:48 PM (sh1GZ)
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Yeah. Good idea. Better check out OnlyFans for clues, guys.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at April 20, 2023 03:46 PM (lf83v)
I'm sure that watching social media is super effective, just like all the gang task forces that didn't work despite the gangs wearing visible signs about what gang they were in all the time.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 20, 2023 03:48 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: Alec Baldwin at April 20, 2023 03:48 PM (flINI)
It's not ALL work.
Posted by: blaster at April 20, 2023 03:37 PM (A0n2W)
Including two sets of twins and a set of triplets. Yeesh.
Posted by: Jordan61 at April 20, 2023 03:46 PM (DRSnL)
Sumbitch is efficient, have to give him that.
Posted by: Go big or go home at April 20, 2023 03:48 PM (GjRvg)
Posted by: nurse ratched at April 20, 2023 03:48 PM (0KjzH)
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Good idea.
And let's call them the Mary Jo Kopechne dummies.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at April 20, 2023 03:48 PM (lf83v)
Posted by: bonhomme at April 20, 2023 03:43 PM (R38qh)
Yeah the nanotubes are not ready for primetime yet….
Posted by: tubal at April 20, 2023 03:45 PM (PCK5/)
Yeah, that's not happening. Honestly, NASA should have gotten orbital refueling solved by now. Then you don't need massive rockets.
Posted by: Crom Laughs at April 20, 2023 03:48 PM (LRhmV)
Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at April 20, 2023 03:33 PM (MFZ8i)
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Where were the social workers? Maybe victims didn't know that the social workers were there.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at April 20, 2023 03:48 PM (17s+e)
Posted by: The key to success at April 20, 2023 03:47 PM (GjRvg)
Yourself, and your parents. They clearly share in your shame.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at April 20, 2023 03:49 PM (L57Qg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K48AasRJpag
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 20, 2023 03:49 PM (trdmm)
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It was. Rarely do we witness something that is this awesome.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at April 20, 2023 03:43 PM (lf83v)
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at least three of the engines failed or cut off during liftoff that I could see, that may have contributed to the failed flip maneuver.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at April 20, 2023 03:50 PM (ssESX)
Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at April 20, 2023 03:46 PM (CecP5)
So Fox is surrendering and disbanding itself and anyone there worth it can just continue on Youtube or Rumble and ditch the overhead.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 20, 2023 03:50 PM (eoQWY)
But, I'm just an observer.
Posted by: DB - so you want to go to Mars at April 20, 2023 03:50 PM (geLO8)
ABC reports.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at April 20, 2023 03:50 PM (jTmQV)
Breaking911 @Breaking911 · 13 minutes
BREAKING: Charges dropped against Alec Baldwin in fatal on-set 'Rust' shooting - ABC
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at April 20, 2023 03:50 PM (Vwz3I)
In basically all tech related fields it's super common to build something just to find out if it works, or if it's what customers want. Half of the time it takes to write software is iterating on things because the designers invariably don't know what they want, but they can tell you when they see it. Like SCOTUS on pornography.
Posted by: Ian S. at April 20, 2023 03:17 PM (ZGrMX)
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Hence the joke: Front bell rings at software firm. Programmer turns to the other programmer: "You start coding and I'll go find out what the customer wants."
Posted by: Ciampino -- new photos of cats https://is.gd/WQ5JcT at April 20, 2023 03:51 PM (qfLjt)
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at April 20, 2023 03:44 PM (Bd6X
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Well, the Starship program has probably cost in the neighborhood of $5 billion so far.
The total federal spending this year is likely to come it at about $6.4 trillion. That is about $17.5 billion per day.
So as American citizens, we get to watch that much money go up in a puff of smoke around every seven hours.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 20, 2023 03:51 PM (t0OGg)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority
If Space-X was still failing at launching anything, you have a point. They haven't though. They've made pretty consistent progress with build it, destroy it, fix it, repeat until it works.
Posted by: Crom Laughs at April 20, 2023 03:52 PM (LRhmV)
Posted by: a.moron at April 20, 2023 03:47 PM (tu3iY)
there was talk this morning that not all the engines were lit and that because of that the thrust was unbalanced, leading to the notable wobble that immediately preceded the explosion. A wobble like that in a launch vehicle is a sign that the trip is just about over.
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 20, 2023 03:52 PM (trdmm)
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at April 20, 2023 03:52 PM (ssESX)
There's a terrific out-of-print book called "Ignition!" that you can sometimes find floating around the Interwebs about that stuff, and all of the horrific Geneva convention-violating chemicals they played with and realized were a bad idea.
Posted by: Ian S. at April 20, 2023 03:53 PM (ZGrMX)
Posted by: Werner Von Braun, totally not an SS Officer at April 20, 2023 03:11 PM (lz5hY)
"I aim for the moon, but sometimes I hit London"
-- Zombie Werner Von Braun
Posted by: a.moron at April 20, 2023 03:53 PM (tu3iY)
Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 20, 2023 03:54 PM (Q4IgG)
yeah, one camera view showed the ass end of the rocket, and several engines had obviously flamed out
Posted by: DB - so you want to go to Mars at April 20, 2023 03:55 PM (geLO8)
Posted by: Martini Farmer
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Did you ever put lizards in your Estes rockets as test pilots?
There was a 100% chance they would not make it back alive.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at April 20, 2023 03:55 PM (17s+e)
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at April 20, 2023 03:56 PM (ssESX)
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at April 20, 2023 03:44 PM (Bd6X
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Well, the Starship program has probably cost in the neighborhood of $5 billion so far.
The total federal spending this year is likely to come it at about $6.4 trillion. That is about $17.5 billion per day.
So as American citizens, we get to watch that much money go up in a puff of smoke around every seven hours.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 20, 2023 03:51 PM (t0OGg)
. . . but the marginal cost of this single launch is a small fraction of that overall $5B total program cost. And I assume, given Elon's comments about the chances of a fully successful first launch, they budgeted for a few failures among the early launches.
Posted by: a.moron at April 20, 2023 03:57 PM (tu3iY)
Absolutely. The left only destroys and undermines; they don't build anything worthwhile. Their raison detre is to destabilize order.
Posted by: Cory C at April 20, 2023 03:59 PM (3BCRP)
Chicago delenda est.
Posted by: Archimedes
As the kiddies were busy burning and destroying things, screaming matches were going on between LE and the Chicago Transportation authority as to who was in charge, etc. The buses kept rolling and transporting people to the riot while LE was trying to get them to stop. Let it burn indeed.
Posted by: Cheri at April 20, 2023 04:00 PM (oiNtH)
There was a 100% chance they would not make it back alive.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at April 20, 2023 03:55 PM (17s+e)
I was into the model rockets in the 70's - we'd go down to the school yard and shoot them off on weekends. I remember being impressed by one kid and his dad who had built this 3' tall replica of a Saturn V, all kitted out - it was beautiful, with 4 engines in the tail, Must have taken them a month or two to build it! So this was the big premier, a lot of people watched, and it went up and did a big semi-circle, peaking at about 150', and then nosed down and went straight into the ground at full power. BOOM! well there goes a couple months of work in 15 seconds. But it was a real good show.
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 20, 2023 04:00 PM (trdmm)
Posted by: Werner Von Braun, totally not an SS Officer at April 20, 2023 03:11 PM (lz5hY)
"I aim for the moon, but sometimes I hit London"
-- Zombie Werner Von Braun
Posted by: a.moron at April 20, 2023 03:53 PM (tu3iY)
LOL
Posted by: mrp at April 20, 2023 04:01 PM (rj6Yv)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K48AasRJpag
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 20, 2023 03:49 PM (trdmm)
The Soviets had one remarkable failure some time in the 1960's, where a rocket being prepared for launch blew up on the ground and killed something like 160 people, including the head of their Strategic Rocket Force. They tried to keep it secret and announced he and some of his minions had been killed in a plane crash.
Posted by: a.moron at April 20, 2023 04:02 PM (tu3iY)
There was a 100% chance they would not make it back alive.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at April 20, 2023 03:55 PM (17s+e)
I had the "X-Ray" model. The one with the clear plastic tube. Look, with that rig, you had to put "something" in there.
Posted by: mrp at April 20, 2023 04:04 PM (rj6Yv)
Dennis Prager
Posted by: Skip at April 20, 2023 04:06 PM (xhxe8)
Posted by: Skip at April 20, 2023 04:09 PM (xhxe8)
Posted by: a.moron at April 20, 2023 04:02 PM (tu3iY)
about 7 or 8 years ago the Russians said there had been an accident at one of the labs working on their new hypersonic missile, I think. They said a couple workers got killed, no big deal. Someone smuggled some video out taken from about 2 or 3 miles away (can't find it anymore) and damn, there was a hell of a mushroom cloud rising up from where that lab used to be. But no biggie, the Russians said.
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 20, 2023 04:09 PM (trdmm)
Posted by: mrp at April 20, 2023 03:25 PM (rj6Yv)
Yep, Sergey Korolov, the "Chief Designer" of the early Soviet space program spent time in one, before and during WW2.
Posted by: a.moron at April 20, 2023 04:16 PM (tu3iY)
Posted by: SMOD at April 20, 2023 04:23 PM (RHGPo)
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And they can't let the SpaceX engineers have any glory for their accomplishments. Remember the Apollo missions? Lots of publicity yet now nothing. We don't know any of their names or anything else. The only one with a profile is Musk and that is because Tesla made him famous.
Posted by: President Select Decaf at April 20, 2023 04:24 PM (3JfbU)
Posted by: Ian S. at April 20, 2023 03:53 PM (ZGrMX)
Ignition! finally made it back into print a few years back, and is now available from Bezos' Sweatshop Storefront in print or for the Kindle.
Posted by: spindrift at April 20, 2023 04:33 PM (ivvNA)
Because the Earth's gravity well is so deep and strong, it takes a huge amount of energy to get anything into orbit around it, often 100 pounds of fuel to get one pound into orbit. So if you want to send lots of cargo onto space, you need lots of thrust, and that mean lots of fuel. Thus a big-assed rocket.
The good news is, the gravity of the moon and Mars and many other places like the moons of Jupiter and Saturn is much weaker, so a Superheavy is not needed - a Starship can do it by itself.
So Superheavy never needs to actually go into space, it just pushes other rockets close enough to it that they can do the rest themselves! Then it lands, gets refueled, and pushes another Starship to space... at least when they get the bugs out!
Yes, I passed on the hanging curve you threw, but I'm sure others smacked it.
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at April 20, 2023 05:00 PM (AcLxR)
You can have one big engine or lots of little engines. Little engines are actually cheaper and more efficient - easier to building things human sized. BUT. Little engines have a problem called pogoing.
Say one engine has slightly more thrust. It pushes a little harder. the fuel in that engine then comes out a little faster. that starves the engine, so it runs a little slower. Any small variation in trust causes this pogoing - too fast, then too slow, then much too fast, and much too slow. The other engines have to compensate. Engines either shut down or the rocket starts tumbling. Both cause a crash.
This problem is MUCH easier to control with fewer engines. It is an exponential problem - more than 6-10 engines you get issues. Starship is firing 33 engines.
Soviets had huge problems with this - it doomed their moon rocket. Americans just built giant sized engines.
Most of the time the RUD with too many engines happens on the pad, so space X has made progress.
Posted by: Inspector kemp at April 20, 2023 05:58 PM (+DS2f)
Posted by: Inspector kemp at April 20, 2023 06:03 PM (+DS2f)
In the test flight of the heavy lifter, the first stage was a complete success. The rocket made it all the way up to second stage separation. I was laughing at the commentators talking about 2nd stage separation long after that failed and the rocket started tumbling.
I wonder, who was the range safety officer, staring at that big red button when the rocket started to tumble?
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