Welcome To Portland, the Third-World Sh!thole City of Your Democrat-BLM Future

Portland's a worse sh!thole than you probably imagine.

David Strom has a piece about being shocked to see just how bad Portland has gotten, thanks to a dispiriting education from a Twitter account called @wtfPortland.

Here's a typical night in Portland. Watch all the way through.

Criminals act as if they own the streets. They do own the streets.

I'm guessing the old white guy here is a homeless drug addict and started this by pushing one of the black women, but whoever's at fault: This is lawless anarchy and chaos. With no cops, every man and women becomes his own judge, jury, and executioner.

Graphic photo of a leg mauled by a homeless man's dog. "THE HOMELESS CRISIS IS OUT OF CONTROL!," the poster writes. Instagram deleted the photo, because obviously all facts that damage the Woke Agenda are "disinformation."

Someone -- I have my suspicions which groups they're affiliated with (hint: one possibility is just an "idea" and has a name that rhymes with "pantyfa") -- went around driving nails through every single tire of every single car parked on this street.

This is fine:

More below.

Not clear at all what this is, but this person should probably be confined for its own safety.

Below, fent means fentanyl, of course:

Nothing says "Major City in a First World Country" like highway fires. Also a sign that you're living in an advanced civilization: weekly bridge fires.

Oh, and of course: car fires.

The account repeatedly links this local news channel's report about how Portland's scheme to decriminalize all drug use is going.

Meanwhile, the Oakland Athletics are Oakland's last major sports franchise. All the rest have fled.

Or they were Oakland's last franchise. Now they're fleeing too, for Las Vegas.

Posted by: Ace at 02:37 PM

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1 Yeet!

Posted by: nurse ratched at April 21, 2023 02:37 PM (tBR8T)

2 *strums guitar homosexually*

Posted by: Johann Mountain Lion Smelloncamp at April 21, 2023 02:37 PM (ppBhU)

3 Makes me sad. I used to spend girl weekends in Portland. Shopping, drinking, eating, hours at the bookstores.... live music, art.... it was clean and safe and funky and fun.

Anyway,

Posted by: nurse ratched at April 21, 2023 02:38 PM (tBR8T)

4 Sad.

Posted by: Jordan61 at April 21, 2023 02:38 PM (DRSnL)

5 Portland... not so quietly circling the drain.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 21, 2023 02:38 PM (Q4IgG)

6 Greater Idaho needs to become a reality.

Posted by: garrett at April 21, 2023 02:39 PM (P7IZS)

7 Oh my goodness, thank you thank you thank you to whoever posted that Carpe Donktum reply to the Bette Middler complaint, along with his GoFundMe. I followed the link and burst out laughing!

Ace, this should go on the sidebar, hat tip to whoever posted it in the last thread (sorry, I'd look but I'm literally running out the door).

Posted by: bluebell at April 21, 2023 02:39 PM (cf/lv)

8 The whole West Coast is in a death spiral........

Posted by: Halden Mygroyn at April 21, 2023 02:39 PM (EnsGU)

9 My own town has gone uphill (in the 90's and early 2000's as prostitution was cleaned up) to downhill the last 20 or so years. Murders up, thefts up, all coinciding with Dems taking over. We have a GAY mayor (yeah?) so I guess we're all getting in the ass now.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 21, 2023 02:40 PM (ynpvh)

10 >>> )
7 Oh my goodness, thank you thank you thank you to whoever posted that Carpe Donktum reply to the Bette Middler complaint, along with his GoFundMe. I followed the link and burst out laughing!

Ace, this should go on the sidebar, hat tip to whoever posted it in the last thread (sorry, I'd look but I'm literally running out the door).

...

I've added it to Quick Hits

Posted by: Chuy at April 21, 2023 02:41 PM (iHBZj)

11 Everything I know about Portland I learned from watching Portlandia. In my experience, all the libs I knew would laugh at the show without the self-awareness to recognize the show was about them. Which, I imagine, is how you get Portland.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at April 21, 2023 02:41 PM (ppBhU)

12 Bonk bonk bonk on the head

Posted by: Dr. Varno at April 21, 2023 02:41 PM (YI7Rg)

13 I had a friend who was offered a job in Portland a few years ago. It was a big opportunity, good job, excellent pay. They flew him and his wife up to check it out. They looked around, said it was the most beautiful place they'd ever been. Said no thanks to the job because it was already turning into the shithole it is today.

Posted by: huerfano at April 21, 2023 02:41 PM (dTFZY)

14 btw I was just looking up who posted the second tweet, with the gofundme, when you wrote this. It was Kindltot.

Posted by: Chuy at April 21, 2023 02:41 PM (iHBZj)

15 Anybody still think democrats are the cool kids?

Posted by: eleven at April 21, 2023 02:41 PM (iziT8)

16 "We secretly replaced the Narcan with fentanyl. Let's see if anyone ~~notices~~ cares"

Posted by: Not Folgers Crystals at April 21, 2023 02:42 PM (xttsV)

17 Someone -- I have my suspicions which groups they're affiliated with (hint: one possibility is just an "idea") -- went around driving nails through every single tire of every single car parked on this street.

Do it here, and they'll find the body still holding a nail.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 21, 2023 02:42 PM (SbJgO)

18 St. Floyd of George knew the answer as to why cities die when they go blue.

"I...can't...breathe..."

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 21, 2023 02:42 PM (ynpvh)

19 An interesting place in interesting times.

Posted by: eleven at April 21, 2023 02:42 PM (iziT8)

20 looks like 5 too many uses of narcan. wtf ems? go with the flow.

Posted by: x at April 21, 2023 02:43 PM (ZBPE2)

21 The only sad part of this story is no Republican governor is shipping their vagrants to OR.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 21, 2023 02:43 PM (E9Gzz)

22 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 21, 2023 02:43 PM (Zz0t1)

23 Posted by: Chuy

Cruel Chuy IN DA HOUSE!!!

Posted by: rickb223 at April 21, 2023 02:43 PM (SbJgO)

24 #WelcomeToFeralPortland

Posted by: Notorious BFD at April 21, 2023 02:43 PM (Xrfse)

25 15 Anybody still think democrats are the cool kids?

Posted by: eleven at April 21, 2023 02:41 PM (iziT

Well, those in control have money and toys and get-out-of-jail free cards. That's pretty cool...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 21, 2023 02:43 PM (ynpvh)

26 Narcan should be a controlled substance.

Wasting it on homeless is a sin.

Posted by: garrett at April 21, 2023 02:43 PM (P7IZS)

27 Too depressing. The whole country is headed in this direction.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 21, 2023 02:43 PM (lTGtQ)

28 Having trained medical personnel run around administering Narcan to addicts is like using a ring of wishes to bring an NPC retainer back from the dead.

Posted by: everything can be analogized to D&D at April 21, 2023 02:43 PM (ppBhU)

29 Just got back from grocery shopping. Major sticker shock. Canned soups from major labels (I won't mention any names) are $4.49 per can. Per can. (can = 1 serving)
I make my own soups, but, sheesh.
I bought some canned beer (not AB brand) and those are closing in a $2 per can.
Eggs $7.99 per doz.
And on and on it goes.

Posted by: gourmand du jour, mmm diesel chicken at April 21, 2023 02:43 PM (jTmQV)

30 The murder rate has skyrocketed as well.

One of the main problems is that Oregon legalized nearly every kind of drug for personal use. If you're caught with 10 kilos of cocaine, you're going to prison but if you have an 8 ball, eh. Knock yourself out.

So druggies of all sorts are moving into Portland especially (but also Eugene and Salem), and crime rates, violence, trash, filth, and destruction are rising rapidly.

Portland used to be a safe beautiful, pleasant, and fun place to visit. Even to live in. Even the worst parts of town weren't that bad. Today its a nightmare filled with filth and trash. And the leftists are celebrating.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 21, 2023 02:43 PM (0hOvj)

31 Republicans ruined Portland with divisive incendiary language.

Posted by: ... at April 21, 2023 02:44 PM (ERmiM)

32 24 #WelcomeToFeralPortland

Posted by: Notorious BFD at April 21, 2023 02:43 PM (Xrfse)

needs more anal otters

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 21, 2023 02:44 PM (ynpvh)

33 Contrast this reality from KJP's fantasy from last thread-
White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre says House Republicans wants "to fill our cities with smog," "give asthma to" kids, "poison...children," & allow "oil companies to use toxic chemicals that cause severe burns, damage people's eyes, and quite literally melt bones."

Posted by: Chuck Martel at April 21, 2023 02:44 PM (fs1hN)

34 Holy shit the A's are rejoining the Raiders in Vegas?

How weird is that?

Posted by: eleven at April 21, 2023 02:44 PM (iziT8)

35 29 Just got back from grocery shopping. Major sticker shock. Canned soups from major labels (I won't mention any names) are $4.49 per can. Per can. (can = 1 serving)
I make my own soups, but, sheesh.
I bought some canned beer (not AB brand) and those are closing in a $2 per can.
Eggs $7.99 per doz.
And on and on it goes.

Posted by: gourmand du jour, mmm diesel chicken at April 21, 2023 02:43 PM (jTmQV)

Had some corned beef that I hadn't cooked (from Costco). Made it, used the brine for cabbage & potato soup. Let none of it go to waste.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 21, 2023 02:45 PM (ynpvh)

36 No wonder Democrats were so defensive about "shithole countries". They're trying to make another one.

Posted by: ... at April 21, 2023 02:45 PM (ERmiM)

37 34 Holy shit the A's are rejoining the Raiders in Vegas?

How weird is that?
Posted by: eleven at April 21, 2023 02:44 PM (iziT

One word.... CALIFORNIA

Posted by: It's me donna at April 21, 2023 02:45 PM (bs+z0)

38 Holy shit the A's are rejoining the Raiders in Vegas?

Wait, what?

I know they had problems with Anaheim as a city, parking etc, but really?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 21, 2023 02:45 PM (0hOvj)

39 The Vegas A's has a ring to it.

Maybe they change it to Aces?

Posted by: eleven at April 21, 2023 02:45 PM (iziT8)

40 One of the main problems is that Oregon legalized nearly every kind of drug for personal use.

Woah, woah, woah. Are you claiming drug use has externalities?!?

Posted by: Leather Jacket Libertarian with a Magazine at April 21, 2023 02:45 PM (ppBhU)

41 But it's those evil REPUBLICANS that want you to die by melting your bones.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 21, 2023 02:45 PM (Zz0t1)

42 I literally just found that WTFPortland twitter yesterday and wasted a couple of hours there. I'm sure you can find the same for any major metro area, though. I made the mistake of taking my kid on the lightrail in Dallas and it was a literal shitshow.

Posted by: Xander Crews at April 21, 2023 02:45 PM (MpOGS)

43 Wait no the Angels are in Anaheim. The A's are in Oakland which isn't a nice place but its not THAT bad. Why Las Vegas? A new stadium?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 21, 2023 02:45 PM (0hOvj)

44 >>Posted by: gourmand du jour, mmm diesel chicken at April 21, 2023 02:43 PM (jTmQV)

I saw a box of Quaker Instant Oatmeal marked at 7.98 the other day.

Who is paying that for 8 packets of unflavored / unsweetened Oatmeal?

Posted by: garrett at April 21, 2023 02:46 PM (P7IZS)

45 34 Holy shit the A's are rejoining the Raiders in Vegas?

How weird is that?

Posted by: eleven at April 21, 2023 02:44 PM (iziT

Escape from Oakland, the third movie in the Snake Plissken series.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 21, 2023 02:46 PM (ynpvh)

46 43 Wait no the Angels are in Anaheim. The A's are in Oakland which isn't a nice place but its not THAT bad. Why Las Vegas? A new stadium?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 21, 2023 02:45 PM (0hOvj)

Oakland is that bad

Posted by: It's me donna at April 21, 2023 02:46 PM (bs+z0)

47 The Vegas A's has a ring to it.

Actually it does, but I hope they have a domed stadium to play in.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 21, 2023 02:46 PM (0hOvj)

48 Just got back from grocery shopping. Major sticker shock. Canned soups from major labels (I won't mention any names) are $4.49 per can. Per can. (can = 1 serving)
I make my own soups, but, sheesh.
I bought some canned beer (not AB brand) and those are closing in a $2 per can.
Eggs $7.99 per doz.
And on and on it goes.
Posted by: gourmand du jour

I said it yesterday. Five items at Wal Mart was $98.18
1 tub cat litter
1 16 lb bag of cat food
1 32 can box of canned cat food
1 case AquaFina water
1 32 oz tub of Zero Sugar Oikos Greek Yogurt

Posted by: rickb223 at April 21, 2023 02:46 PM (SbJgO)

49
Wait, what?

I know they had problems with Anaheim as a city, parking etc, but really?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 21, 2023 02:45 PM (0hOvj)

They've agreed to a real estate deal for the new stadium.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 21, 2023 02:46 PM (Zz0t1)

50 Progressive voters are unreachable.

Posted by: mr tmz at April 21, 2023 02:46 PM (rJ48h)

51 "Greater Idaho needs to become a reality.

Posted by: garrett"

It does seem like the US map will change at some point in my lifetime.

Posted by: eleven at April 21, 2023 02:47 PM (iziT8)

52 Maybe letting GTA4 raise your kids wasn't the best idea ever.

Posted by: DFCtomm at April 21, 2023 02:47 PM (NTi06)

53 Asthma is a product of Pollen more than anything else.

That and weak genes.

Posted by: garrett at April 21, 2023 02:47 PM (P7IZS)

54 39 The Vegas A's has a ring to it.

Maybe they change it to Aces?

Posted by: eleven at April 21, 2023 02:45 PM (iziT

New kids Alphabet probably has:
A is for Anal
B is for Bondage
C is for...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 21, 2023 02:47 PM (ynpvh)

55 The Biden Junta and their Chinese & Cartel pay-masters can't kill young Americans fast enough!

Looks like they want to rack up a higher body count than Fauci ...

Posted by: ShainS -- The Abolition of The West is from Men Without Chests at April 21, 2023 02:48 PM (xAQTe)

56 Drove down to AZ in March from WA state. Drove the freeway thru Portland - homeless everywhere along the sides. Stayed the night in Medford, OR - homeless and encamped along a beautiful trail system next to the river, as well as along the freeway. I used to do some consulting gigs in Portland - I would ride their Metro at night by myself- clean & comfortable, never thought a thing about it. Now? NO WAY. Good job Portland, how much money is your city losing?

Posted by: Julie at April 21, 2023 02:48 PM (+LZfx)

57 I made the mistake of taking my kid on the lightrail in Dallas and it was a literal shitshow.

When it first was built, it was all up north. So working stiffs took it downtown. I did for years. No problem. Then they expanded it to areas with a certain demographic. It's become unridable. Guess that demographic?

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at April 21, 2023 02:48 PM (ppBhU)

58 Oakland is that bad

Oh its a lousy place to live, but I mean as a business, I have not heard complaints from the team about lousy parking etc. Maybe there were. I know they want a new stadium because the one they have is 57 years old. I mean its as old as me.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 21, 2023 02:48 PM (0hOvj)

59 Graphic photo of a leg mauled by a homeless man's dog. "THE HOMELESS CRISIS IS OUT OF CONTROL!," the poster writes. Instagram deleted the photo, because obviously all facts that damage the Woke Agenda are "disinformation."
++++
Not very progressive.

I have mentioned this before, but I have a friend who lives in Portland. Not downtown, but Portland proper. A few years back we were chatting and she mentioned the "houselessness problem" in Portland. The problem, of course, was due to housing affordability and that, in turn was caused by property speculators who sit on empty apartments rather than those apartments being used to help the "houseless." That word. Never "homeless," but "houseless."

It's a perfect - albeit insane - redirection. Street people are almost never street people because of housing costs or availability. Those homeless people are hidden - living in their cars/campers or crashing on a buddy's couch. Vagrancy is a different problem, and it almost always ties back to mental illness or drugs (or often both, as those two can feed each-other nicely).

But nope. "Houselessness."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 21, 2023 02:48 PM (t0OGg)

60

It really is obvious there are foreign groups or a group that is destablizign the country, and the Dems are running the op.

They all know it, and dgaf that anyone else does.

Why not, Paul Ryan and the good GOP will stop it.

lol

Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at April 21, 2023 02:48 PM (UCNv1)

61 >> The Vegas A's has a ring to it.

Maybe they change it to Aces?

Vegas Antibiotics

Posted by: garrett at April 21, 2023 02:49 PM (P7IZS)

62 1 32 oz tub of Zero Sugar Oikos Greek Yogurt

That's the good stuff.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 21, 2023 02:49 PM (0hOvj)

63 48 I said it yesterday. Five items at Wal Mart was $98.18
1 tub cat litter
1 16 lb bag of cat food
1 32 can box of canned cat food
1 case AquaFina water
1 32 oz tub of Zero Sugar Oikos Greek Yogurt

Posted by: rickb223 at April 21, 2023 02:46 PM (SbJgO)

I know times are rough, but who chooses kitty litter over toilet paper, or real food over cat food?
/sarc

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 21, 2023 02:49 PM (ynpvh)

64 Do it here, and they'll find the body still holding a nail.

Do it here and no one will find the body. The feral hogs will be appreciative though.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at April 21, 2023 02:49 PM (YXHzG)

65 I could have doubled my money had I bought cases of black beans when they were $.99 per can.
Now? $1.99 per can.

Posted by: gourmand du jour, mmm diesel chicken at April 21, 2023 02:49 PM (jTmQV)

66 Portland used to be a safe beautiful, pleasant, and fun place to visit. Even to live in. Even the worst parts of town weren't that bad. Today its a nightmare filled with filth and trash. And the leftists are celebrating.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 21, 2023 02:43 PM (0hOvj)

And Denver says, "Hold our fentanyl. Watch this"!

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at April 21, 2023 02:49 PM (BdMk6)

67 My wife's aunt and uncle lived in Portland for almost 50 years. Last year was the final straw and they finally moved out to Seaside. Portland is an absolute shit show. Even Hillsboro and Beaverton are dealing with the lawlessness. Vancouver needs to demo the I-5 bridge and call it good.

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at April 21, 2023 02:49 PM (OgrpQ)

68 50 Progressive voters are unreachable.

Posted by: mr tmz at April 21, 2023 02:46 PM (rJ48h)

In many cases requires a seance or your imagination.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 21, 2023 02:49 PM (ynpvh)

69 Actually it does, but I hope they have a domed stadium to play in.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 21, 2023 02:46 PM (0hOvj)

Heh, exactly what I said to husband this morning.

Posted by: Jordan61 at April 21, 2023 02:50 PM (DRSnL)

70 Everything I know about Portland I learned from watching Portlandia. In my experience, all the libs I knew would laugh at the show without the self-awareness to recognize the show was about them. Which, I imagine, is how you get Portland.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at April 21, 2023 02:41 PM (ppBhU)

Portlandia was hilarious because it was absolutely true, and it's absolutely how you ended up with the clusterfuck that the city is today. Those people exist, and they vote for hard-left policies every chance that they can get.

I hate it, because I'm from Portland and used to love every chance I got to return to visit family. Now... my grandparents have all passed, I don't speak to my aunts/uncles/cousins, and my dad and stepmom have moved to the eastern part of the state, and will likely flee entirely in another five or six years.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at April 21, 2023 02:50 PM (wmDcS)

71 51 "Greater Idaho needs to become a reality.

Posted by: garrett"

It does seem like the US map will change at some point in my lifetime.

Posted by: eleven at April 21, 2023 02:47 PM (iziT

East China, South Canada, North Mexico,...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 21, 2023 02:50 PM (ynpvh)

72 The Vegas They/Them

Posted by: ... at April 21, 2023 02:50 PM (ERmiM)

73 >> The Vegas A's has a ring to it.

Maybe they change it to Aces?

I don't think they'll change the name (too much history) but I bet a four-aces poker hand will be their new logo.

Posted by: Chuy at April 21, 2023 02:51 PM (iHBZj)

74 Wtfportland @Wtfportland1 · Apr 19
Someone went around popping tires in downtown Portland today

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at April 21, 2023 02:51 PM (Vwz3I)

75 It's a perfect - albeit insane - redirection. Street people are almost never street people because of housing costs or availability. Those homeless people are hidden - living in their cars/campers or crashing on a buddy's couch

And they are usually temporary: they take advantage of programs, loans, grants, etc and get out of their position within months.

Street people are usually low end insanity types (talking to themselves, seeing visions, heavy autism, etc) or drug addicts and/or alcoholics. These are people who often do not WANT a home, and flee from it if they are put into housing. They are a severe problem that used to be handled by insane asylums, prisons, and other similar utilities.

Then the supreme court decided its better for them to die on the streets than live in an asylum.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 21, 2023 02:51 PM (0hOvj)

76 Fanned out: A A A A

so the A's

Posted by: Chuy at April 21, 2023 02:51 PM (iHBZj)

77 I know times are rough, but who chooses kitty litter over toilet paper, or real food over cat food?
/sarc
Posted by: jim

I almost needed the cat litter by the time I got to the truck.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 21, 2023 02:51 PM (SbJgO)

78
It looks like the availability of Narcan is only prolonging the Rose City's problem.

(Give it time ... you'll figure this out)

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 21, 2023 02:51 PM (pNxlR)

79 My Mom was raised in Longview just downriver from Portland. We wwould visit Portland a lot when we went on family trips. And when my kids were young we went to the PNW several times, and loved Portland and Seattle. But last tim wife and I were there, we could tell it was changing for the worse, and this was a decade or so ago. Seeing the vids now is nauseating.

And Denver ain't far behind.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Southpaw at April 21, 2023 02:52 PM (xPJvm)

80
One of the main problems is that Oregon legalized nearly every kind of drug for personal use.

Woah, woah, woah. Are you claiming drug use has externalities?!?
Posted by: Leather Jacket Libertarian with a Magazine

Gutfeld says legalizing all drugs will make things better.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 21, 2023 02:52 PM (63Dwl)

81 "I saw a box of Quaker Instant Oatmeal marked at 7.98 the other day. Who is paying that for 8 packets of unflavored / unsweetened Oatmeal?"

I think you're being made to pay a premium to make up for the shoplifting.

Posted by: DaveX64 - AWFLs smell like dryer sheets at April 21, 2023 02:52 PM (iXXi5)

82 I had a friend who was offered a job in Portland a few years ago. It was a big opportunity, good job, excellent pay. They flew him and his wife up to check it out. They looked around, said it was the most beautiful place they'd ever been. Said no thanks to the job because it was already turning into the shithole it is today.
Posted by: huerfano at April 21, 2023 02:41 PM (dTFZY)

"You call someplace Paradise, Kiss it good-bye."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbZSIpsO8rU

Posted by: California Democrats at April 21, 2023 02:52 PM (Z32m1)

83 The Biden Junta and their Chinese & Cartel pay-masters can't kill young Americans fast enough!

Looks like they want to rack up a higher body count than Fauci ...

The Coof must have been a bit of a disappointment for them. Not enough bodies hitting the floor.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at April 21, 2023 02:52 PM (Xrfse)

84 This is just the small price to pay for all this rich "diversity" (of crime) in your city.

Posted by: Thrawn at April 21, 2023 02:52 PM (Rl7KJ)

85
This isn't limited to Portland by any means, the places I used to stroll around downtown are now ruled by aggressive beggers.

Posted by: Auspex at April 21, 2023 02:52 PM (j4U/Z)

86 When it first was built, it was all up north. So working stiffs took it downtown. I did for years. No problem. Then they expanded it to areas with a certain demographic. It's become unridable. Guess that demographic?
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at April 21, 2023 02:48 PM (ppBhU)

+++++++++

You know, there was a reason why the U.S. had the worst public transportation system in the world. It's because we were also the innovator of the inner-city ethnic ghetto, and we really needed to innovate ways to keep them there.

Posted by: DFCtomm at April 21, 2023 02:52 PM (NTi06)

87
Yay! And I'm driving to Portland in June.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 21, 2023 02:52 PM (MoZTd)

88 Yeet!
Posted by: nurse ratched

Yoot !

Posted by: JT at April 21, 2023 02:53 PM (T4tVD)

89 Now do a similar map of Rockford, IL. You don't know the meaning of the word 'shithole' yet.

Posted by: Peel gp A Grape at April 21, 2023 02:53 PM (MvF+J)

90 "Greater Idaho needs to become a reality.

Posted by: garrett"

Why join at all? Eastern Oregon and eastern Washington are both populous enough to support their own governments. Turn them into the states of Udaho and Wedaho and be done with it.

Personally, I think we need to break up more large states (looking at you, Colorado). 69 seems like a nice number.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at April 21, 2023 02:53 PM (wmDcS)

91 ...but there are also league rules about gambling, maybe they're not allowed to promote gambling through a logo.

Sports franchises a very touchy about the corrupting potential of gambling. I think that's why it took so, so long for Las Vegas to be approved as a franchise-worthy city.

Posted by: Chuy at April 21, 2023 02:53 PM (iHBZj)

92 One of the main problems is that Oregon legalized nearly every kind of drug for personal use.

Posted by: Leather Jacket Libertarian with a Magazine

But plastic straws are outlawed in Portland, go figure.

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at April 21, 2023 02:54 PM (OgrpQ)

93 Where is Zardoz now that we need him?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 21, 2023 02:54 PM (gUFwZ)

94 Portland is the Bud Light of cities

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 21, 2023 02:54 PM (E9Gzz)

95 Criminals act as if they own the streets. They do own the streets.

Listen, creampuff, maybe you're just not cut out for rich vibrant city life.

Posted by: John Hamasaki, Esquire at April 21, 2023 02:54 PM (ivvNA)

96 90 "Greater Idaho needs to become a reality.

Posted by: garrett"

Why join at all? Eastern Oregon and eastern Washington are both populous enough to support their own governments. Turn them into the states of Udaho and Wedaho and be done with it.

Personally, I think we need to break up more large states (looking at you, Colorado). 69 seems like a nice number.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at April 21, 2023 02:53 PM (wmDcS)

More states than Obama visited on his campaign

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 21, 2023 02:54 PM (ynpvh)

97 I will be working in the exact epicenter of that map tomorrow...

Posted by: KarlHungus at April 21, 2023 02:54 PM (MhCcX)

98 >>Why join at all?

Well. My dream is they combine forces and establish a Columbia River Navy and then declare war on their former Capitols.

Posted by: garrett at April 21, 2023 02:54 PM (P7IZS)

99 And Denver ain't far behind.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Southpaw at April 21, 2023 02:52 PM (xPJvm)

I'd say that Portland is ten years behind SF, and Austin and Denver are ten years behind Portland. A lot of other cities follow after that.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at April 21, 2023 02:54 PM (wmDcS)

100 The only sad part of this story is no Republican governor is shipping their vagrants to OR.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 21, 2023 02:43

Actually, there was a recent MT News story about Billings supposedly shipping a homeless guy to Portland. They denied it but I wouldn't put past them to so. The homeless tend to migrate to the west coast when winter comes a knocking in Montana.

Posted by: Beartooth at April 21, 2023 02:55 PM (SJLjq)

101 97 I will be working in the exact epicenter of that map tomorrow...

Posted by: KarlHungus at April 21, 2023 02:54 PM (MhCcX)

Good luck, and turn off the lights when you leave.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 21, 2023 02:55 PM (ynpvh)

102 LOL a little editorial aside in the Oakland A's article:

“We realize this is a difficult day for our Oakland fans,” all five of them, “and community.”

Posted by: m at April 21, 2023 02:55 PM (rrxFZ)

103
Personally, I think we need to break up more large states (looking at you, Colorado). 69 seems like a nice number.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at April 21, 2023 02:53 PM (wmDcS)

The United States of Cooter

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 21, 2023 02:55 PM (Zz0t1)

104 A long time ago before the burning times (2009) I went to Portland for a weekend to hang with a buddy and play golf (Pumpkin Ridge). He lived in the Pearl district downtown…. It was great. We went to clubs, sports bar… got a great steak at a restaurant on the 33rd floor of some building. Walked around downtown and felt perfectly safe. Wouldn’t get with 50 miles now. Sad

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at April 21, 2023 02:55 PM (0gs5e)

105 The United States of Cooter
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 21, 2023 02:55 PM (Zz0t1)

Our national anthem is Free Bird.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at April 21, 2023 02:55 PM (wmDcS)

106 Nature has a way of cleaning up messes like that. Historically, it's involved flea infested rodents, contaminated drinking water, or similar.

Posted by: dave's not here, man at April 21, 2023 02:55 PM (raPis)

107 That ain' nuffin. Wait 'til y'all get a whiff of New Orleans.

Posted by: LaToya the Destroya at April 21, 2023 02:55 PM (1dzqn)

108 I like how the WY Party's Best Legislative Intern is a pervy mutant with a 1.9 GPA.

Only a matter of time til Senator Artemis represents WY, and he pulls his dick out and waves it around at President Ocasio-Cortez during a bill-signing, and she gives him a MoF for it.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 21, 2023 02:55 PM (oINRc)

109 >>>Gutfeld says legalizing all drugs will make things better.

that f*g was on tv last night telling us that "conservatives don't boycott" because we're fun, arguing for an end to the bud light boycott.

We need leaders and fighters, not fey clowns, Gutfeld. Go fuck yourself and your stupid unfunny show.

Posted by: Chuy at April 21, 2023 02:55 PM (iHBZj)

110
The A's move to Vegas would make them the most traveled MLB franchise.

Philadelphia: 1901-1954
Kansas City: 1955-1967
Oakland: 1968-Present

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 21, 2023 02:56 PM (MoZTd)

111 103
Personally, I think we need to break up more large states (looking at you, Colorado). 69 seems like a nice number.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at April 21, 2023 02:53 PM (wmDcS)

The United States of Cooter

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 21, 2023 02:55 PM (Zz0t1)

États Unis de Soixante-Neuf

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 21, 2023 02:56 PM (ynpvh)

112
On the bright side, today a half gallon of bum vodka here is still $10.48, a dozen eggs were $2.29, and I scored a rack of baby backs for $7.99.

Posted by: Auspex at April 21, 2023 02:56 PM (j4U/Z)

113 I think it's intolerable that when a poor oppressed downtrodden soul is aching for a puff of what they need, the racist bigot fascist cops aren't available to deliver them the necessary in twenty minutes or less.

This is America, dammit.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at April 21, 2023 02:56 PM (9UlRk)

114 >>Actually, there was a recent MT News story about Billings supposedly shipping a homeless guy to Portland. They denied it but I wouldn't put past them to so. The homeless tend to migrate to the west coast when winter comes a knocking in Montana.

Billings has the ONLY Men's Shelter in the Intermountain West. They get hundrewds and hundreds of transients shipped in each month from all the surrounding States.

If you look into it, I guarantee that guy came from there or wanted to go there.

Posted by: garrett at April 21, 2023 02:56 PM (P7IZS)

115 Greater Idaho needs to become a reality.

As an Idahoan, I am somewhat dubious about this, and no one has asked how Idahoans feel about it, it's being driven by Oregonian conservatives.

That said, I would welcome the merger with open arms if eastern Oregon conservatives can assist with the destruction of the Boise liberals.

They are the biggest threat Idaho faces.

Posted by: Derak at April 21, 2023 02:56 PM (DxJqj)

116 i don't know how people watch gutfeld, it's amateur hour and the amateurishness has lost its charm.

after twenty fucking years, we expect the faintest glimmerings of professional quality

Posted by: Chuy at April 21, 2023 02:57 PM (iHBZj)

117 Stop using fucking narcan and the problem fixes itself

Posted by: NCKate at April 21, 2023 02:57 PM (d5Qya)

118 11 ODs in one night.
- 3 confirmed deaths (27.3%)
- 5 pulled back by narcan (45.5%)
- 3 unknown outcome (27.3%)

So anywhere from 27.3$ - 54.6% of the ODs died, representing anywhere from 3-6 people.

Last year, Portland set a homicide record of 101 homicides. Per a Portland homicide tracker I found, March 31st had one homicide (don't know if it's accurate). Assuming a major increase in homicide this year, let's assume it will come in at, say, around 115 homicides. Let's make a further assumption - likely a very bad one - that March 31st was particularly bad and is more representative of an entire week's worth of ODs. That would mean anywhere from 156-312 OD deaths year in Portland. This implies that the OD deaths will outnumber homicides by at least a third.

Lots of assumptions in that, but even if it's way off, it's still pretty clear that way more people will die of OD than homicide this year. And the ruling party in Portland - and virtually every other major city in the union - strongly encourages both behaviors. Party of Love, yo!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 21, 2023 02:57 PM (t0OGg)

119
We need leaders and fighters, not fey clowns, Gutfeld. Go fuck yourself and your stupid unfunny show.
Posted by: Chuy at April 21, 2023 02:55 PM (iHBZj)

Yeah, I've never really found him all that relevant. Yeah, he's said some good things over the years, but......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 21, 2023 02:57 PM (Zz0t1)

120 >>Our national anthem is

Side 1 of Led Zeppelin IV.

Posted by: garrett at April 21, 2023 02:57 PM (P7IZS)

121 Crap.
I gotta drive thru Portland on Monday.
Damn

Posted by: Diogenes at April 21, 2023 02:57 PM (anj39)

122 One of the main problems is that Oregon legalized nearly every kind of drug for personal use.
___

Including Ivermectin? What, no? Dang.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at April 21, 2023 02:57 PM (fs1hN)

123 We need leaders and fighters, not fey clowns, Gutfeld. Go fuck yourself and your stupid unfunny show.
Posted by: Chuy at April 21, 2023 02:55 PM (iHBZj)

I normally like Gutfeld, but he's been off the mark lately... Tyrus is my favorite.. You can have that faux Libertarian woman

Posted by: It's me donna at April 21, 2023 02:57 PM (bs+z0)

124 Having trained medical personnel run around administering Narcan to addicts is like using a ring of wishes to bring an NPC retainer back from the dead.
Posted by: everything can be analogized to D&D

=============================

Everyone given Narcan should get a Big Red Letter tattooed on their chest.
First time, a D.
Second Time, an N, and a referral to a Drug Treatment Center.
Third Time, an R, and they are driven to the drug treatment center, checked in, and not allowed to leave.
Fourth Time? The DNR is honored.

Posted by: California Democrats at April 21, 2023 02:57 PM (Z32m1)

125 >>>The A's move to Vegas would make them the most traveled MLB franchise.

Your mom's the most traveled franchise

Posted by: Guy Who Is Always Ready to Throw Down a Mom Joke at April 21, 2023 02:58 PM (iHBZj)

126 107 That ain' nuffin. Wait 'til y'all get a whiff of New Orleans.

Posted by: LaToya the Destroya at April 21, 2023 02:55 PM (1dzqn)

Wife was watching new show, prequel of "Supernatural", and at one point they are in New Orleans in a deep underground cave. Told my wife, "Bullshit! Water table is pretty close to the surface, that's why they bury people ABOVE ground there"

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 21, 2023 02:58 PM (ynpvh)

127 The White House leaps into action!

Biden Creates New Government Agency, the "Office of Environmental justice"

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 21, 2023 02:58 PM (gUFwZ)

128 Not clear at all what this is, but this person should probably be confined for its own safety.

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Unfortunately, that applies to about half the country now since much of the Western world began going clinically insane in 2020.

Toxic Social Media + Deep State PsyOps + MDM-MSM + Academia + Mass Formation Psychosis Social Contagion == Mass Irrationality & Insanity

Posted by: ShainS -- The Abolition of The West is from Men Without Chests at April 21, 2023 02:58 PM (BYauB)

129 i don't know how people watch gutfeld

Red Eye was great. I've never watched him since.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at April 21, 2023 02:58 PM (ppBhU)

130 I saw fey clowns open for Barbara Striesand at ... no I didn't. Who would go that gay show?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at April 21, 2023 02:59 PM (fs1hN)

131 121 Crap.
I gotta drive thru Portland on Monday.
Damn
Posted by: Diogenes

How many extra miles is "Around?"

Posted by: rd at April 21, 2023 02:59 PM (Z32m1)

132 >> i don't know how people watch gutfeld

Still convinced his writers steal directly from Ace's comments.

Posted by: garrett at April 21, 2023 02:59 PM (P7IZS)

133 Legalize drugs. Fine. Just start prosecuting vagrancy, then.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at April 21, 2023 02:59 PM (9UlRk)

134 122 One of the main problems is that Oregon legalized nearly every kind of drug for personal use.
___

Including Ivermectin? What, no? Dang.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at April 21, 2023 02:57 PM (fs1hN)

Maybe if you cut it with some coke and snort it.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 21, 2023 03:00 PM (ynpvh)

135 You know, there was a reason why the U.S. had the worst public transportation system in the world. It's because we were also the innovator of the inner-city ethnic ghetto, and we really needed to innovate ways to keep them there.
Posted by: DFCtomm

One could tell by the level of shoplifting at the area malls in Dallas. If the mall was serviced by DART, there would be high levels of shoplifting.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 21, 2023 03:00 PM (SbJgO)

136 OT but I see there's a "situation" in Sudan.

I thought the China brokered Saudi/Iran "peace" deal was supposed to settle the Sudan situation.

I thought the deal was impossible to follow through on because of the Shia/Sunni schism but...

What gives?

Posted by: pawn at April 21, 2023 03:00 PM (kYVzH)

137 The Vegas A's has a ring to it.

Maybe they change it to Aces?

There's already a Las Vegas Aces. A lesball franchise.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at April 21, 2023 03:00 PM (Angsy)

138 Sports franchises a very touchy about the corrupting potential of gambling. I think that's why it took so, so long for Las Vegas to be approved as a franchise-worthy city.

Yet for the most part, it's what is keeping them floating.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at April 21, 2023 03:00 PM (Xrfse)

139 Denver is DOOMED, and it's dragging the whole state with it. Colorado has been lost to California.

If it's ten years behind SF and Portland, I'd be surprised.

That's why I'm OUTTA THERE, BAY-BEE

It's a beautiful state, I loved growing up there, and it was my home. "Was" being the operative word. It belongs to them now, and I'm fuckin' free of it.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 21, 2023 03:00 PM (oINRc)

140 I'd say that Portland is ten years behind SF, and Austin and Denver are ten years behind Portland. A lot of other cities follow after that.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at April 21, 2023 02:54 PM (wmDcS)
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Dunno about Austin, but Denver is moving at breakneck speed. They'll probably get there at the same time (more or less) as Portland.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 21, 2023 03:00 PM (t0OGg)

141 Biden will fix the homeless (druggie) problem by BigGov underwriting loans to the under-served minorities. Sounds even better than those Ninja loans that led to the housing crisis. (which was about over leveraged buyers and liars loans, not lack of housing).

Posted by: illiniwek at April 21, 2023 03:00 PM (Cus5s)

142 55 The Biden Junta and their Chinese & Cartel pay-masters can't kill young Americans fast enough!

Looks like they want to rack up a higher body count than Fauci ...
Posted by: ShainS -- The Abolition of The West is from Men Without Chests at April 21, 2023 02:48 PM (xAQTe)

The Opium Wars II - Fentanyl Bugaloo

Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at April 21, 2023 03:00 PM (CCSxw)

143 Maybe if you cut it with some coke and snort it.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 21, 2023 03:00 PM (ynpvh)

Yo let's go downtown and score some I-balls

Posted by: Warai-otoko at April 21, 2023 03:01 PM (9UlRk)

144 Do it here, and they'll find the body still holding a nail.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 21, 2023 02:42 PM (SbJgO)

Sure

Posted by: Crom Laughs at April 21, 2023 03:01 PM (dN42F)

145 Toxic Social Media + Deep State PsyOps + MDM-MSM + Academia + Mass Formation Psychosis Social Contagion == Mass Irrationality & Insanity

---------

Oops, I left out Big Tech & Big Pharma.

Posted by: ShainS -- The Abolition of The West is from Men Without Chests at April 21, 2023 03:01 PM (BYauB)

146 So they're dropping like flies? Faster please.

Posted by: Hilaria at April 21, 2023 03:01 PM (v0R5T)

147 >>Denver is DOOMED, and it's dragging the whole state with it. Colorado has been lost to California.

The writing was on the wall back in the mid-90s.

Sad. Used to be a great place to visit.

Posted by: garrett at April 21, 2023 03:01 PM (P7IZS)

148 Everyone given Narcan should get a Big Red Letter tattooed on their chest.
First time, a D.
Second Time, an N, and a referral to a Drug Treatment Center.
Third Time, an R, and they are driven to the drug treatment center, checked in, and not allowed to leave.
Fourth Time? The DNR is honored.
Posted by: California Democrats

+1
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

Posted by: rickb223 at April 21, 2023 03:01 PM (SbJgO)

149 124 Having trained medical personnel run around administering Narcan to addicts is like using a ring of wishes to bring an NPC retainer back from the dead.
Posted by: everything can be analogized to D&D

=============================

Everyone given Narcan should get a Big Red Letter tattooed on their chest.
First time, a D.
Second Time, an N, and a referral to a Drug Treatment Center.
Third Time, an R, and they are driven to the drug treatment center, checked in, and not allowed to leave.
Fourth Time? The DNR is honored.

Posted by: California Democrats at April 21, 2023 02:57 PM (Z32m1)

Guy had "Do Not Resuscitate" tatooed on his chest. Hospital resuscitated him anyway, as he may have changed his mind as there was no paperwork that also reiterated what his tat said.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 21, 2023 03:02 PM (ynpvh)

150 The weird thing is, other than Kansas City? The A's have been really successful in each city.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 21, 2023 03:02 PM (0hOvj)

151 I hate it, because I'm from Portland and used to love every chance I got to return to visit family. Now... my grandparents have all passed, I don't speak to my aunts/uncles/cousins, and my dad and stepmom have moved to the eastern part of the state, and will likely flee entirely in another five or six years.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile
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What the hell Alex mon, you are from Portland, exiled from Colorado, and lived in DC. What are you, some kind of harbinger of doom?

j/k, I think but please don't move near me if that is the case.

Posted by: whig at April 21, 2023 03:02 PM (oqoj8)

152 Gutfeld says legalizing all drugs will make things better.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 21, 2023 02:52 PM
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I like Gutfeld and Timpf, but they are wrong on this.

Posted by: Darth Randall at April 21, 2023 03:02 PM (NZrf3)

153
Let's not forget the greatest threat to domestic tranquility: traditional Catholicism.

Chastity: White Supremacy
Temperance: White Supremacy
Charity: White Supremacy
Diligence: White Supremacy
Kindness: White Supremacy
Patience: White Supremacy
Humility: White Supremacy

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 21, 2023 03:02 PM (MoZTd)

154 We need leaders and fighters, not fey clowns, Gutfeld. Go fuck yourself and your stupid unfunny show.
Posted by: Chuy at April 21, 2023 02:55 PM (iHBZj)

Yeah, I've never really found him all that relevant. Yeah, he's said some good things over the years, but......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 21, 2023 02:57 PM (Zz0t1)

I never liked him. He always seems like he had a notepad full of zingers he was trying to shoehorn into the conversation.

Posted by: Jordan61 at April 21, 2023 03:02 PM (DRSnL)

155 130 I saw fey clowns open for Barbara Striesand at ... no I didn't. Who would go that gay show?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at April 21, 2023 02:59 PM (fs1hN)

crock-wearing, vespa driving folks?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 21, 2023 03:02 PM (ynpvh)

156 Yet for the most part, it's what is keeping them floating.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at April 21, 2023 03:00 PM (Xrfse)

The major sports are dying and you are right that gambling is the one thing keeping them afloat. There's a reason some of the sports networks have filed for bankruptcy.

Posted by: Crom Laughs at April 21, 2023 03:03 PM (dN42F)

157 >>Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 21, 2023 03:02 PM (MoZTd)

But Jesus was Black or something.

Posted by: garrett at April 21, 2023 03:03 PM (P7IZS)

158 Yet for the most part, it's what is keeping them floating.

And the weird thing is that they actively support the new gambling. They have segments on their official channels for "fantasy leagues" and they have ads during games for them.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 21, 2023 03:03 PM (0hOvj)

159 What the hell Alex mon, you are from Portland, exiled from Colorado, and lived in DC. What are you, some kind of harbinger of doom?

j/k, I think but please don't move near me if that is the case.
Posted by: whig at April 21, 2023 03:02 PM (oqoj

Pretty much.

Born in PDX, moved to CO (Western Slope) right before HS, and have lived all over. Now living in VA. I'm bad luck.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at April 21, 2023 03:03 PM (wmDcS)

160 "They do own the streets."

We can too. Starting today, Everybody Shoplift Everything! Groceries, clothes, drugstore items, everything. Help yourself, don't be a chump!

Posted by: Peel gp A Grape at April 21, 2023 03:03 PM (MvF+J)

161 152 Gutfeld says legalizing all drugs will make things better.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 21, 2023 02:52 PM
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I like Gutfeld and Timpf, but they are wrong on this.
Posted by: Darth Randall at April 21, 2023 03:02 PM (NZrf3)

Agreed, they are wrong on this.

Posted by: m at April 21, 2023 03:03 PM (rrxFZ)

162 Yes, and the ones escaping run across to Vancouver WA and bring their regular voting habits with them. And they find true love with Inslee, who is working as hard as he can to turn WA state into a sh**hole too.

And just so you know, as I don't think this is common in most parts of the country, it's not unusual to rent out rooms in a house. Which is what they are doing with the house I used to live in. I suspect it's illegal, but the neighbor across the street got away with it for years.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at April 21, 2023 03:03 PM (u7leW)

163 Hey maybe he's just an illiterate guns n roses fan you don't know

Posted by: Warai-otoko at April 21, 2023 03:03 PM (9UlRk)

164
The A's have been really successful in each city.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 21, 2023 03:02 PM (0hOvj)

__________

Also really awful in each city. The 1916 A's have the lowest winning percentage (.235) in modern history. They finished last for seven straight seasons.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 21, 2023 03:04 PM (MoZTd)

165 I thought the China brokered Saudi/Iran "peace" deal was supposed to settle the Sudan situation.

I thought the deal was impossible to follow through on because of the Shia/Sunni schism but...

What gives?
Posted by: pawn
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That was over Yemen and the Houthis attacking Saudi Arabia from there with weapons from Iran.

Not sure what is going in Sudan right now but probably ethnic in nature.

Posted by: whig at April 21, 2023 03:04 PM (oqoj8)

166 Portland's by far the whitest big city in America.

Some snowflake "reporter"-ette writing in The Oregonian says it's because of the state's and city's racist past.

So, what would it take to jack up the POC numbers?

Posted by: Mr Gaga at April 21, 2023 03:04 PM (KiBMU)

167 143 Maybe if you cut it with some coke and snort it.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 21, 2023 03:00 PM (ynpvh)

Yo let's go downtown and score some I-balls

Posted by: Warai-otoko at April 21, 2023 03:01 PM (9UlRk)

LOL!

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 21, 2023 03:04 PM (ynpvh)

168 Legalize drugs.

Outlaw public overdosing.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at April 21, 2023 03:04 PM (9UlRk)

169 But RE: Portland, the contrast from even just a few years ago is horrific. It is shocking and unbelievable. Its like going from Mayberry on TV to Detroit of Robocop. But filthier.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 21, 2023 03:04 PM (0hOvj)

170 Still convinced his writers steal directly from Ace's comments.

Posted by: garrett at April 21, 2023 02:59 PM (P7IZS)

Back in the early 2010s, Levy would routinely use jokes I made here and only here.

Posted by: ... at April 21, 2023 03:04 PM (ERmiM)

171 "Still convinced [Gutfeld's] writers steal directly from Ace's comments."

If they did, then Gutfeld would be funny. Not even Gutfeld's live audiences laff at his stuff. It's pathetic.

Posted by: Peel gp A Grape at April 21, 2023 03:05 PM (MvF+J)

172 Wife was watching new show, prequel of "Supernatural", and at one point they are in New Orleans in a deep underground cave. Told my wife, "Bullshit! Water table is pretty close to the surface, that's why they bury people ABOVE ground there"
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 21, 2023 02:58 PM (ynpvh)

That wasn't a cave. It was downtown NO.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at April 21, 2023 03:05 PM (BdMk6)

173 Pretty much.

Born in PDX, moved to CO (Western Slope) right before HS, and have lived all over. Now living in VA. I'm bad luck.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile
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Dammit, I can't sell Virginia short on the stock market. I would have had a sure thing.

Posted by: whig at April 21, 2023 03:05 PM (oqoj8)

174 I use the same thought as I do in Philly. You wanna spend your day using drugs, knock yourself out. It'll limit the scum in these big cities.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at April 21, 2023 03:05 PM (d2bW3)

175 Marijuana legalization has clearly lead to a much saner and clearer thinking country.

Posted by: ... at April 21, 2023 03:05 PM (ERmiM)

176 They want population control?

Legalize all drugs. The death rate will increase dramatically.

I mean, see: Oregon

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 21, 2023 03:05 PM (Zz0t1)

177 The new name for the Los Vegis baseball teem should be

"The Los Vegis Obama's"

to honer are furst Blank Presdent

Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, VT at April 21, 2023 03:05 PM (66jxp)

178 The writing was on the wall back in the mid-90s.

Sad. Used to be a great place to visit.
Posted by: garrett at April 21, 2023 03:01 PM (P7IZS)
++++
Denver - and by extension Colorado - got a huge reprieve in the mid-late 90s: the telecoms bubble burst. The inflow from the west coast reduced dramatically, and then the dot-com bust happened.

As tech recovered and wage costs in California skyrocketed, Denver became a major tech center. It already had a decent amount of expertise (thanks in part to the telecom and dot-com booms) and was much cheaper. It was also beautiful and had great regional amenities like skiing. The second Californian migration kicked off and this time it stuck. The state flipped in 2008 and went completely insane almost immediately, helped along in a big way by vast sums of leftist money to keep pushing hard and fast as the developed their migrate-fund-flip-fund-accelerate framework.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 21, 2023 03:05 PM (t0OGg)

179 I will be working in the exact epicenter of that map tomorrow...
Posted by: KarlHungus at April 21, 2023 02:54 PM (MhCcX)

Don't forget to bring the rest of the nihilists along for protection!

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at April 21, 2023 03:06 PM (ZSK0i)

180 Thanks whig. I got my third world shitholes mixed up.

Posted by: pawn at April 21, 2023 03:06 PM (kYVzH)

181 Also really awful in each city. The 1916 A's have the lowest winning percentage (.235) in modern history

Yeah they have had some terrible seasons as well. In part because of the location, but also the ownership is cheap. Not as cheap as Miami, but cheap.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 21, 2023 03:06 PM (0hOvj)

182 Dammit, I can't sell Virginia short on the stock market. I would have had a sure thing.
Posted by: whig at April 21, 2023 03:05 PM (oqoj

One of these days I'm going to go through the ancestry sites and discover that I'm related to Jim Cramer or something.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at April 21, 2023 03:06 PM (wmDcS)

183 I remember when, about 5 minutes ago, the left said negative stories about Portland were all right wing lies and that it was, in fact, perfectly safe and, in fact, no businesses were leaving town.

Posted by: Eigh Mil Roa at April 21, 2023 03:06 PM (ik/65)

184 Dammit, I can't sell Virginia short on the stock market. I would have had a sure thing.
Posted by: whig at April 21, 2023 03:05 PM (oqoj

Philip Morris is publicly traded, right?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at April 21, 2023 03:06 PM (9UlRk)

185 Born in PDX, moved to CO (Western Slope) right before HS, and have lived all over.

-------

Western Slope is the tits. Beautiful country, and I loved the peaches, apricots, cherries, etc. back when I lived in the poor, beleaguered Colorado Colony.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 21, 2023 03:06 PM (oINRc)

186
Dammit, I can't sell Virginia short on the stock market. I would have had a sure thing.
Posted by: whig at April 21, 2023 03:05 PM (oqoj

_______

Jim Cramer has really been touting it.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 21, 2023 03:06 PM (MoZTd)

187 If they did, then Gutfeld would be funny. Not even Gutfeld's live audiences laff at his stuff. It's pathetic.
Posted by: Peel gp A Grape at April 21, 2023 03:05 PM (MvF+J)

YEAH WOOO YEAH

Posted by: Hannity's Live Audience at April 21, 2023 03:07 PM (v0R5T)

188 I never liked him. He always seems like he had a notepad full of zingers he was trying to shoehorn into the conversation.
Posted by: Jordan61

==================

Our repartee is always spontaneous, off the cuff, and never scripted

Posted by: Jimmy, Jimmy, and Stephan at April 21, 2023 03:07 PM (Z32m1)

189 175 Marijuana legalization has clearly lead to a much saner and clearer thinking country.

Posted by: ... at April 21, 2023 03:05 PM (ERmiM)

And a country-wide case of the munchies

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 21, 2023 03:07 PM (ynpvh)

190 Western Slope is the tits. Beautiful country, and I loved the peaches, apricots, cherries, etc. back when I lived in the poor, beleaguered Colorado Colony.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 21, 2023 03:06 PM (oINRc)

It absolutely is. Like eastern Oregon, Western CO needs to be its own state, with the capitol in Grand Junction.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at April 21, 2023 03:07 PM (wmDcS)

191 >>>The new name for the Los Vegis baseball teem should be

"The Los Vegis Obama's"

Guess The Steven Paddock's wouldn't work. I'll see myself out.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at April 21, 2023 03:08 PM (d2bW3)

192 My kids (and I) love the show Bluey. There's an episode where the dad annoys the mom with a super annoying sock puppet. The sock puppet's catch phrase is, "Annnnnnnd why-should-I-care?"

That's all I can think when I read these stories. Don't care. Won't care. There's a reason I don't live in these shitholes.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at April 21, 2023 03:08 PM (KbCG3)

193
The new name for the Los Vegis baseball teem should be

"The Los Vegis Obama's"

to honer are furst Blank Presdent
Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, VT at April 21, 2023 03:05 PM (66jxp)

He's blank alright.....

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 21, 2023 03:08 PM (Zz0t1)

194 >>Western Slope is the tits.

World Class Mt Biking. Everywhere.

Posted by: garrett at April 21, 2023 03:09 PM (P7IZS)

195 137 There's already a Las Vegas Aces. A lesball franchise.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at April 21, 2023 03:00 PM (Angsy)

Les Vagis

Posted by: m at April 21, 2023 03:09 PM (rrxFZ)

196 "It is shocking and unbelievable. Its like going from Mayberry on TV to Detroit of Robocop. But filthier.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 21, 2023 03:04 PM (0hOvj)"

Worse than Detroit of Robocop, which wasn't full of woke freaks, trust fund marxists, and local governments actively enabling the victimization of segments of society (vs. just neglecting them).

Posted by: somedood at April 21, 2023 03:09 PM (aNQwd)

197 And the problem with those videos is that they don't show the tents right along the freeway. Every public walkway is lined with tents. Jantzen Beach area, more tents. There was an area off Powell Blvd we used to go to. I went back there in 2021, after a year away from it. It was terrible, trashed out burned cars, graffiti and garbage everywhere. All that in one year. People that live there try to pretend like it's just in small parts of the city. Well, that's true but one of those parts is the main downtown area that was set up as a showcase.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at April 21, 2023 03:09 PM (u7leW)

198 The new name for the Los Vegis baseball teem should be

"The Los Vegis Obama's"

to honer are furst Blank Presdent
Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, VT at April 21, 2023 03:05 PM (66jxp)
........

Their pitching would suck.

Posted by: wth at April 21, 2023 03:09 PM (v0R5T)

199 "Someone -- I have my suspicions which groups they're affiliated with (hint: one possibility is just an "idea" and has a name that rhymes with "pantyfa") -- went around driving nails through every single tire of every single car parked on this street."

I guarantee the people that did this to these car fly on jets across the country and probably have a bigger carbon footprint than I have.

Posted by: redridinghood at April 21, 2023 03:09 PM (NpAcC)

200 So sad what’s happened to the West Coast. Such a beautiful landscape. Such ugly people.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 21, 2023 03:09 PM (engrW)

201 Changing the A's to Obamas would match their losing record, for sure.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 21, 2023 03:09 PM (0hOvj)

202 195 137 There's already a Las Vegas Aces. A lesball franchise.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at April 21, 2023 03:00 PM (Angsy)

Les Vagis

Posted by: m at April 21, 2023 03:09 PM (rrxFZ)

Las Vegas Carpet Munchers?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 21, 2023 03:09 PM (ynpvh)

203 Has anyone mentioned that the Homeless Crisis is big business, with hundreds of millions of dollars being spent on NOT solving the Homeless Crisis every year?

Being Kind, Caring, Woke, and Empathic can pay very, very well!!!

Posted by: rd at April 21, 2023 03:10 PM (Z32m1)

204 68 50 Progressive voters are unreachable.

Posted by: mr tmz at April 21, 2023 02:46 PM (rJ48h)

In many cases requires a seance or your imagination.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

Or, if you're budget conscious, a ball peen hammer.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 21, 2023 03:10 PM (gUFwZ)

205 grand junction ? meth capital of the rockies ?

Posted by: jeet at April 21, 2023 03:10 PM (/Rqse)

206 161 152 Gutfeld says legalizing all drugs will make things better. Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.
---
I like Gutfeld and Timpf, but they are wrong on this.
Posted by: Darth Randall

Agreed, they are wrong on this.
Posted by: m
----
Technically, because both are out and out libertarians, I can see why they support this. They value their own individualism over that of the community. But, in real life terms, the cost in human lives will be catastrophic, in part, because of spillover effects on the community, kids, and so on. True Junkies live for the drugs and will lie, cheat, and steal to get high again---repeat ad nauseam until they die and they serve as a nexus for crime. Society pays to clean up the mess.

Posted by: whig at April 21, 2023 03:10 PM (oqoj8)

207
Their pitching would suck.
Posted by: wth at April 21, 2023 03:09 PM (v0R5T)

________

And they'd play in Kaminsky Park.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 21, 2023 03:10 PM (MoZTd)

208 Wife was watching new show, prequel of "Supernatural", and at one point they are in New Orleans in a deep underground cave. Told my wife, "Bullshit! Water table is pretty close to the surface, that's why they bury people ABOVE ground there"
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 21, 2023 02:58 PM (ynpvh)
---
Supernatural, and presumably it's prequel, has always played fast and loose with United States geography. Like The X-Files, much of it resembles the Canadian wilderness...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 21, 2023 03:10 PM (YIVH2)

209 198 The new name for the Los Vegis baseball teem should be

"The Los Vegis Obama's"

to honer are furst Blank Presdent
Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, VT at April 21, 2023 03:05 PM (66jxp)
........

Their pitching would suck.

Posted by: wth at April 21, 2023 03:09 PM (v0R5T)

But they'd be excellent catchers

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 21, 2023 03:10 PM (ynpvh)

210 I never liked him. He always seems like he had a notepad full of zingers he was trying to shoehorn into the conversation.
Posted by: Jordan61

==================

Our repartee is always spontaneous, off the cuff, and never scripted
Posted by: Jimmy, Jimmy, and Stephan at April 21, 2023 03:07 PM (Z32m1)
***

Wait a minute.
*flips pages*
What page is that on?

Posted by: Diogenes at April 21, 2023 03:10 PM (anj39)

211 Mrs. Jukin's grandparents lived in Oakland it was a very nice area back then. Upper middle class.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at April 21, 2023 03:10 PM (17s+e)

212 200 So sad what’s happened to the West Coast. Such a beautiful landscape. Such ugly people.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 21, 2023 03:09 PM (engrW)

See Gavin Newsom?

Posted by: m at April 21, 2023 03:11 PM (rrxFZ)

213 As someone quoted the Eagles above, that's what happens. Beautiful place attract aesthetes who are generally leftist and they destroy everything they touch.

It takes strong, independent people to settle a wilderness like Oregon or Colorado. But once its settled, the locusts swarm in and ruin it all.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 21, 2023 03:11 PM (0hOvj)

214 Gutfeld is unwatchable…. Timpf is stupid and annoying. The big wrestler guy with his championship belt is the only one that makes sense at least half the time…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at April 21, 2023 03:11 PM (0gs5e)

215 Jim Cramer has really been touting it.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

Heh. Good one.

Posted by: whig at April 21, 2023 03:11 PM (oqoj8)

216 I don't find Gutfield funny. At all. I think I use to like his blog. But that was 20 years ago.

Posted by: Seems Legit. at April 21, 2023 03:11 PM (DcKNO)

217 Meanwhile, "Republicans" in New England are talking about how they might vote for RFK, Jr. -- a Democrat -- because he's "genuine" and "really cares."

Posted by: Lois Vegas, RN at April 21, 2023 03:11 PM (ik/65)

218 "Has anyone mentioned that the Homeless Crisis is big business, with hundreds of millions of dollars being spent on NOT solving the Homeless Crisis every year?"

They learned it from us!

Posted by: Cancer research at April 21, 2023 03:11 PM (jTmQV)

219 So sad what’s happened to the West Coast. Such a beautiful landscape. Such ugly people.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 21, 2023 03:09 PM (engrW)

I'm right here, you know.

Posted by: Jordan61 at April 21, 2023 03:11 PM (DRSnL)

220 Greg Gutfield is the Don Imus of Jon Stewart's

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 21, 2023 03:11 PM (Zz0t1)

221 Like The X-Files, much of it resembles the Canadian wilderness...

"Georgia looks just like the hills east of LA!"
--The Duke Brothers

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 21, 2023 03:12 PM (0hOvj)

222 Personally, I think we need to break up more large states (looking at you, Colorado). 69 seems like a nice number.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at April 21, 2023 02:53 PM (wmDcS)

*********

This and add to it turning the blue cities that are tossed out of states like Portland, Seattle, Denver/Boulder, Minneapolis/StPaul, Chicago, etc are returned to territorial status and kept in that status until the situation is corrected (ie, the progs are run completely out of power).

Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie at April 21, 2023 03:12 PM (xxG/v)

223 "Gutfeld says legalizing all drugs will make things better."

Any politician taking money from the cartels, and hence keeping the drugs flowing (I think Hobbes in AZ is accused of this, but Bidens seem to be pretty good to the cartels as well) ... Those grifters helping China kill Americans via free fentanyl are as guilty as the drug cartels, (but not quite as guilty as drug dealer Fauci).

Posted by: illiniwek at April 21, 2023 03:12 PM (Cus5s)

224
I'm right here, you know.
Posted by: Jordan61 at April 21, 2023 03:11 PM (DRSnL)

Mmmmmm......bacon.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 21, 2023 03:12 PM (Zz0t1)

225 Someone -- I have my suspicions which groups they're affiliated with (hint: one possibility is just an "idea" and has a name that rhymes with "pantyfa") -- went around driving nails through every single tire of every single car parked on this street.
++++
If that happened to me - even if it was only one tire - there is no chance I'd change my tire there if I was alone. Nope. I'm going to call AAA and have them tow it. While waiting, I'd be in the car with a gun in my lap.

There is zero reason to expect that the people who do those things aren't lying in wait to attack or kill you while you change a tire.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 21, 2023 03:12 PM (t0OGg)

226 37 There's already a Las Vegas Aces. A lesball franchise.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at April 21, 2023 03:00 PM (Angsy)
===

AoS style guide says 10 Dyke Stickball.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at April 21, 2023 03:12 PM (17s+e)

227 69 states in The United States of Snizz

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 21, 2023 03:12 PM (Zz0t1)

228 And they'd play in Kaminsky Park.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 21, 2023 03:10 PM (MoZTd)

Huh? I thought they raided Kaminsky's??

Posted by: OrangeEnt at April 21, 2023 03:13 PM (Angsy)

229 "But they'd be excellent catchers"

And switch hitters.

Posted by: Dulcinea del Tuscaloosa at April 21, 2023 03:13 PM (ik/65)

230 True Junkies live for the drugs and will lie, cheat, and steal to get high again---repeat ad nauseam until they die and they serve as a nexus for crime. Society pays to clean up the mess.
Posted by: whig at April 21, 2023 03:10 PM (oqoj

There is a non-facetious argument to be made that you can legalize the behavior itself (partaking of the substance) if you heavily criminalize the external behaviors due to that behavior (theft, harassment, vagrancy, whatever). It still might not be a "libertarian" argument, but i don't personally give a crap about that.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at April 21, 2023 03:13 PM (9UlRk)

231 Pass

Posted by: Snake Plissken at April 21, 2023 03:13 PM (cupoy)

232 This busty brunette in a fairly undersized bikini is happy she doesn't live in PDX:
https://is.gd/kKffNp

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 21, 2023 03:13 PM (t0OGg)

233 Meanwhile, "Republicans" in New England are talking about how they might vote for RFK, Jr. -- a Democrat -- because he's "genuine" and "really cares."
Posted by: Lois Vegas, RN at April 21, 2023 03:11 PM (ik/65)
***

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

*breath*

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Ha! Someone actually believes what comes out of the mouth of a politician? Fools.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 21, 2023 03:13 PM (anj39)

234 206. They will also kill for it

Posted by: CN at April 21, 2023 03:13 PM (Zzbjj)

235 221 Like The X-Files, much of it resembles the Canadian wilderness...

"Georgia looks just like the hills east of LA!"
--The Duke Brothers

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 21, 2023 03:12 PM (0hOvj)

My obscure hometown showed up in a TV series. Looked at the supposed background, said, not enough holes in the fences and graffiti on the buildings.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 21, 2023 03:13 PM (ynpvh)

236 It scared the crap outta me 15 years ago. All the homeless kids yelling at you walking by the park downtown. I promised I would never go back. Disgusting place

Posted by: SOMEASSHOLESTOLEMYPEN at April 21, 2023 03:13 PM (ytSiK)

237 Wife was watching new show, prequel of "Supernatural", and at one point they are in New Orleans in a deep underground cave. Told my wife, "Bullshit! Water table is pretty close to the surface, that's why they bury people ABOVE ground there"
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 21, 2023 02:58 PM (ynpvh)

Lot of old salt mines in the general vicinity of NO/South LA. Now mostly filled with oil reserves.

Posted by: Lurker De Plume at April 21, 2023 03:13 PM (76TDd)

238 The state flipped in 2008 and went completely insane almost immediately, helped along in a big way by vast sums of leftist money to keep pushing hard and fast as the developed their migrate-fund-flip-fund-accelerate framework.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 21, 202

Degringolade. Amazingly rapid destruction.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 21, 2023 03:13 PM (oINRc)

239 Because someone asked above re. Sudan.

Russian Port is the reason Sudan is happening.
Another CIA sponsored kinetic Op.

Posted by: garrett at April 21, 2023 03:14 PM (P7IZS)

240 X

Posted by: Lurker De Plume at April 21, 2023 03:14 PM (76TDd)

241 Pass
Posted by: Snake Plissken at April 21, 2023 03:13 PM (cupoy)
++++
Threadwinner

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 21, 2023 03:14 PM (t0OGg)

242 >>>Gutfeld is unwatchable…. Timpf is stupid and annoying.

Her laugh sounds like Doc Holliday clearing his lungs in the afternoon after a long night of drinking and laudanum

Posted by: ace at April 21, 2023 03:14 PM (iHBZj)

243 Supernatural, and presumably it's prequel, has always played fast and loose with United States geography. Like The X-Files, much of it resembles the Canadian wilderness...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 21, 2023 03:10 PM (YIVH2)

They could not play the OG X-Files show today, especially not the parts where part of the larger government conspiracy plot is using molecular marker tags in vaccines to catalogue (and track?) people.

Posted by: Thrawn at April 21, 2023 03:14 PM (Rl7KJ)

244 225 Thumbs up for AAA. Best $62/yr subscription you can buy.

Posted by: Peel gp A Grape at April 21, 2023 03:14 PM (MvF+J)

245 Oakland used to be a nice place. Good schools, great weather, affordable houses. Busy ports, Jack London Square. 2 sports franchises.
Now I hate even driving through it.

Posted by: gourmand du jour, mmm diesel chicken at April 21, 2023 03:14 PM (jTmQV)

246 >>>Personally, I think we need to break up more large states (looking at you, Colorado). 69 seems like a nice number.

Philly is its own state as is Pittsburgh, the rest of PA can be Pennsyltucky, the only really decent, and conservative, place in Pennsylvania.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at April 21, 2023 03:15 PM (d2bW3)

247 No drugs should be legal (and that includes brewed, fermented, and distilled) because there are always some people who can't handle them and shit happens. Lotta alkies out there. Prohibit alcohol and throw the dips in prison.

Posted by: SFGoth at April 21, 2023 03:15 PM (KAi1n)

248 Meanwhile, "Republicans" in New England are talking about how they might vote for RFK, Jr. -- a Democrat -- because he's "genuine" and "really cares."
Posted by: Lois Vegas, RN at April 21, 2023 03:11

----------------

Those Schmucks voted for Romney once and got the fool elected Governor. They have bad taste

Posted by: Frank Barone at April 21, 2023 03:15 PM (+oR7L)

249 There is zero reason to expect that the people who do those things aren't lying in wait to attack or kill you while you change a tire.

This seems like a ripe market for Hick's Personal Perimeter System which includes a configuration with a series of mini-Claymores that can be quickly deployed to allow someone the space and time required to do simple urban tasks.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at April 21, 2023 03:15 PM (YXHzG)

250 AoS style guide says 10 Dyke Stickball.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at April 21, 2023 03:12 PM (17s+e)

WNBA.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at April 21, 2023 03:15 PM (Angsy)

251 Palette cleanser:
Egard pro women sports* ad.
https://youtu.be/H5XrTxzr2Wg

*anti trans for all the lefties.

Egard did a "what is a man?" ad a few years back going after Gillette did their men are bad ad. This one should be getting some attention - it even surprised me. Very well done.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at April 21, 2023 03:16 PM (zB/T/)

252 So sad what’s happened to the West Coast. Such a beautiful landscape. Such ugly people.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 21, 2023 03:09 PM (engrW)

I'm right here, you know.
Posted by: Jordan61 at April 21, 2023 03:11 PM (DRSnL)
........

At least I'm not fat.

Posted by: wth at April 21, 2023 03:16 PM (v0R5T)

253
"Georgia looks just like the hills east of LA!"
--The Duke Brothers
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 21, 2023 03:12 PM (0hOvj)

The downtown scenes in Groundhog Day were filmed in a small town, Woodstock, Illinois, where I happened to go to elementary school.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 21, 2023 03:16 PM (Zz0t1)

254 I live here in Portland metro. It's bad but not as bad as all this.
Biggest fear now is the contagion of this moving to the suburbs.

The videos are of places that are well known shithole parts of town, they just got worse.

The biggest change is downtown. It used to be busy, now it's Mogadishu. It's embarrassing

Posted by: Joe Fingerblaster at April 21, 2023 03:16 PM (W+TLY)

255 My wife's aunt and uncle lived in Portland for almost 50 years. Last year was the final straw and they finally moved out to Seaside.

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at April 21, 2023 02:49 PM (OgrpQ)

Seaside is nice. We used to go there frequently when we lived in Astoria.

Posted by: Jordan61 at April 21, 2023 03:16 PM (DRSnL)

256 This busty brunette in a fairly undersized bikini is happy she doesn't live in PDX

She looks like she's wearing the same bikini she got 2 years ago, before her "growth spurt"

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 21, 2023 03:16 PM (0hOvj)

257 They could not play the OG X-Files show today, especially not the parts where part of the larger government conspiracy plot is using molecular marker tags in vaccines to catalogue (and track?) people.
Posted by: Thrawn at April 21, 2023 03:14 PM (Rl7KJ)
----
Who knew that show was a documentary?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 21, 2023 03:16 PM (YIVH2)

258 >>>There is zero reason to expect that the people who do those things aren't lying in wait to attack or kill you while you change a tire.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

It happens far more than you'd think.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at April 21, 2023 03:16 PM (d2bW3)

259 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvL1339luv0

Posted by: nurse ratched at April 21, 2023 03:16 PM (W2Pud)

260 This seems like a ripe market for Hick's Personal Perimeter System which includes a configuration with a series of mini-Claymores that can be quickly deployed to allow someone the space and time required to do simple urban tasks.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at April 21, 2023 03:15 PM (YXHzG)
++++
I'd buy one.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 21, 2023 03:16 PM (t0OGg)

261
I'm right here, you know.
Posted by: Jordan61 at April 21, 2023 03:11 PM (DRSnL)
........

At least I'm not fat.
Posted by: wth at April 21, 2023 03:16 PM (v0R5T)

Wow......quite the insult there.....

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 21, 2023 03:17 PM (Zz0t1)

262 239 Because someone asked above re. Sudan.

Russian Port is the reason Sudan is happening.
Another CIA sponsored kinetic Op.
Posted by: garrett at April 21, 2023 03:14 PM (P7IZS)

I heard on some podcast that the Sudanese Rapid Reaction Force, about 100,000 strong, is rebelling against the rest of the military ruling the country. Basically it would be as if the Wagner Paramilitary Company decided to launch a coup against Putin and the Russian military.

Maybe a glowie op, maybe not.

Posted by: Thrawn at April 21, 2023 03:17 PM (Rl7KJ)

263
Portland gets exactly what it deserves. Good and hard. Will they learn? Nope.

Posted by: Frank Barone at April 21, 2023 03:18 PM (+oR7L)

264 222 Personally, I think we need to break up more large states (looking at you, Colorado). 69 seems like a nice number.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile

Turn cities into reservations---let them have self rule, free drugs, no state taxes, and let their freak flags fly but at the cost that they cannot vote in statewide races.

Posted by: whig at April 21, 2023 03:18 PM (oqoj8)

265 "The downtown scenes in Groundhog Day were filmed in a small town, Woodstock, Illinois, where I happened to go to elementary school."

They have a nice town square with food vendors and stuff. My veterinarian is there. Closest place I can find a vegetarian restaurant. West side of town seems kinda safe, for now.

Posted by: Peel gp A Grape at April 21, 2023 03:18 PM (MvF+J)

266 www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvL1339luv0
Posted by: nurse ratched at April 21, 2023 03:16 PM (W2Pud)

That is horrible.....

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 21, 2023 03:18 PM (Zz0t1)

267 The problem are the city states, shit congregates there, and I question their value added anymore.

Posted by: tubal at April 21, 2023 03:18 PM (PCK5/)

268 206 161 152 Gutfeld says legalizing all drugs will make things better. Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.
---
I like Gutfeld and Timpf, but they are wrong on this.
Posted by: Darth Randall

Agreed, they are wrong on this.
Posted by: m
----
Technically, because both are out and out libertarians, I can see why they support this. They value their own individualism over that of the community. But, in real life terms, the cost in human lives will be catastrophic, in part, because of spillover effects on the community, kids, and so on. True Junkies live for the drugs and will lie, cheat, and steal to get high again---repeat ad nauseam until they die and they serve as a nexus for crime. Society pays to clean up the mess.
Posted by: whig

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It will take maybe another five to twenty years, but we will find out that THC is not a good drug. there are lots of cases of people in emergency rooms with full blown psychotic episodes from over indulgence of harmless marijuana.

Posted by: rd at April 21, 2023 03:18 PM (Z32m1)

269 Louisville shooter reportedly left 13-page anti-gun manifesto, said he shot up bank to prove how easy it could be done

.. I've got news for this poor schmoe. It's all a facade.
Banks, car dealers, superstores, governments.
They are all Potemkin structures.

Posted by: SMOD at April 21, 2023 03:18 PM (RHGPo)

270 >>>Gutfeld is unwatchable…. Timpf is stupid and annoying.

Her laugh sounds like Doc Holliday clearing his lungs in the afternoon after a long night of drinking and laudanum
Posted by: ace at April 21, 2023 03:14 PM (iHBZj)

My first ace response ever. I’m beaming! And that’s funny!!

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at April 21, 2023 03:18 PM (0gs5e)

271 258 >>>There is zero reason to expect that the people who do those things aren't lying in wait to attack or kill you while you change a tire.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

It happens far more than you'd think.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp
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Didn't one of Bill Cosby's kids get killed that way?

Posted by: whig at April 21, 2023 03:19 PM (oqoj8)

272 Of course (in regards to post #247), yesterday I got a new chamber for my volcano vaporizer, new screens, and am waiting for new balloon bags (though I have one that'll work in a pinch). Got my short-rest (63 seconds between sets) workout in at 8 a.m., lunch is in the "bag" (spinach and red leaf lettuce, hard-boiled egg, artichoke hearts, green cabbage, peas, mushrooms, avocado slice, lox, and shrimp), and as soon as I get a little more work done, it's 4:20. ;-> You enjoy your alkyhol, I'll enjoy my ganja.

Posted by: SFGoth at April 21, 2023 03:19 PM (KAi1n)

273 So I'm still working to clear up my brother Joel's finances and estates -- this is taking forever -- and he got a nastygram from the hospital about his last bill there. You know, the one he got when he DIED there. His email said they had transferred the debt to their collection agency.

I mean... its the freaking hospital, they know he's dead. Its not like it was a secret. The lady at the debt agency was very sweet and understanding and she told me it happens more often than you'd believe.

The people who run hospitals are the opposite of the people who should run them. They're cruel, heartless, nicklesticking, greedy, and utterly lacking in ethics. The people who work there, they tend to be good folks. But the administration is satanic.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 21, 2023 03:19 PM (0hOvj)

274 >>>Gutfeld is unwatchable…. Timpf is stupid and annoying.

Her laugh sounds like Doc Holliday clearing his lungs in the afternoon after a long night of drinking and laudanum
Posted by: ace at April 21, 2023 03:14 PM (iHBZj)

I'll only stick it out if Tyrus is on, dude breaks me up. Since I pulled the plug I only see it on YT, and can fast forward over her bits. Still, if they're trouncing the other late-night "comedy" shows, more power to them.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at April 21, 2023 03:19 PM (zB/T/)

275 I have 0 sympathy for Portland, they elected it so they can have it.

Posted by: Skip at April 21, 2023 03:19 PM (xhxe8)

276 >>>Wow......quite the insult there.....

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden

Next stop? THUNDERDOME!

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at April 21, 2023 03:19 PM (d2bW3)

277 I live here in Portland metro. It's bad but not as bad as all this.
Biggest fear now is the contagion of this moving to the suburbs. ...
Posted by: Joe Fingerblaster at April 21, 2023 03:16 PM (W+TLY)
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If it goes anything like Denver, it will. In Denver, it radiated out to the west along the I-70 corridor, with vagrant encampments cropping up at major interchanges, then leaking north and south from there along the major surface streets. My interchange I used got a camp that was then rousted and emptied. It came back six months later, and this time it remained. The rot had seeped another 2 blocks north and south along the surface street within nine months as the camp grew. The camp was still right on the interchange, but the vagrants were polluting up the place and harassing normals a couple of blocks up and down by then.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 21, 2023 03:19 PM (t0OGg)

278 257 They could not play the OG X-Files show today, especially not the parts where part of the larger government conspiracy plot is using molecular marker tags in vaccines to catalogue (and track?) people.
Posted by: Thrawn at April 21, 2023 03:14 PM (Rl7KJ)
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Who knew that show was a documentary?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 21, 2023 03:16 PM (YIVH2)

Instruction manual

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 21, 2023 03:19 PM (ynpvh)

279 Have a friend in Portland. At the mention of Antifa destroying Portland she screamed “that’s not real, it’s just AN IDEA!!!”

. . . And then she’s baffled at why all the cute businesses in her downtown neighborhood have closed and sh can’t sell her condo.

Posted by: BEN ROETHLSBERGER at April 21, 2023 03:20 PM (u0yXH)

280 www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvL1339luv0
Posted by: nurse ratched at April 21, 2023 03:16 PM (W2Pud)

That is horrible.....
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 21, 2023 03:18 PM (Zz0t1)
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That should be in tonight's CAFE...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 21, 2023 03:20 PM (YIVH2)

281 No drugs should be legal (and that includes brewed, fermented, and distilled) because there are always some people who can't handle them and shit happens. Lotta alkies out there. Prohibit alcohol and throw the dips in prison.
Posted by: SFGoth

We tried that. Didn't work.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 21, 2023 03:20 PM (SbJgO)

282 At least I'm not fat.
Posted by: wth at April 21, 2023 03:16 PM (v0R5T)

Hey, I'm working on that. Perimenopause is a bitch.

Posted by: Jordan61 at April 21, 2023 03:20 PM (DRSnL)

283 271 Yup. See Derbyshire's "The Talk" for advice about handling roadside emergencies.

Posted by: Peel gp A Grape at April 21, 2023 03:20 PM (MvF+J)

284 They have a nice town square with food vendors and stuff. My veterinarian is there. Closest place I can find a vegetarian restaurant. West side of town seems kinda safe, for now.
Posted by: Peel gp A Grape at April 21, 2023 03:18 PM (MvF+J)

They used to have a restaurant we frequented called Uncle Dan's. Dan and my dad's birthdays were a day a part, so they used to do a shot of Tiddy's together every year.

Last I heard, Dan retired after he was stabbed leaving the restaurant one night. I figured the town was doomed after hearing that.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 21, 2023 03:21 PM (Zz0t1)

285 Turn cities into reservations---let them have self rule, free drugs, no state taxes, and let their freak flags fly but at the cost that they cannot vote in statewide races.
Posted by: whig at April 21, 2023 03:18 PM (oqoj

The urban CHUDs would vote for that deal in about 1sec. But the Party would never, ever let happen. Ever.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 21, 2023 03:21 PM (oINRc)

286 Portland gets exactly what it deserves. Good and hard.

Sadly, this is true. The people in Portland vote overwhelmingly for hard left extremists who take office filled with insanity, then get angry that they aren't hard left ENOUGH and throw them out for an even crazier idiot.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 21, 2023 03:21 PM (0hOvj)

287 268 It will take maybe another five to twenty years, but we will find out that THC is not a good drug. there are lots of cases of people in emergency rooms with full blown psychotic episodes from over indulgence of harmless marijuana.

Posted by: rd at April 21, 2023 03:18 PM (Z32m1)

From what I read, most dangerous to developing brains, i.e. those under 30.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 21, 2023 03:21 PM (ynpvh)

288 I live here in Portland metro. It's bad but not as bad as all this.
Biggest fear now is the contagion of this moving to the suburbs. ...
Posted by: Joe Fingerblaster at April 21, 2023 03:16 PM

Don't worry. Tri-Met is helping with that. As soon as they put a light rail train up to McLaughlin Blvd, it brought trouble all throughout Clackamas County. It's spreading.

Posted by: Frank Barone at April 21, 2023 03:21 PM (+oR7L)

289 Portland isn't all that bad. We moved a bit east to Port St. Lucie and it's really quite nice.

Posted by: Southron Steve at April 21, 2023 03:21 PM (ik/65)

290 It will take maybe another five to twenty years, but we will find out that THC is not a good drug. there are lots of cases of people in emergency rooms with full blown psychotic episodes from over indulgence of harmless marijuana.
Posted by: rd
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Yes, and you find edibles are being consumed by kids, people with a sick sense of humor are putting it in shared dishes like potlucks, and dogs are getting poisoned by it. Then it is also has been bred to produce much more THC than the stuff in the 70's. In most cases involving drugs and medicine, the dose amount makes the poison and what doesn't kill you does not make you stronger.

Posted by: whig at April 21, 2023 03:22 PM (oqoj8)

291 "Last I heard, Dan retired after he was stabbed leaving the restaurant one night."

Cripes.

Posted by: Peel gp A Grape at April 21, 2023 03:22 PM (MvF+J)

292 ---
That should be in tonight's CAFE...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 21, 2023 03:20 PM (YIVH2)

ACK! Don't give Chuy any ideas.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 21, 2023 03:22 PM (Zz0t1)

293 Oh, and sugar too. That's the worst!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 21, 2023 03:22 PM (63Dwl)

294 At least I'm not fat.
Posted by: wth at April 21, 2023 03:16 PM (v0R5T)

Hey, I'm working on that. Perimenopause is a bitch.
Posted by: Jordan61 at April 21, 2023 03:20 PM (DRSnL)
.......

Sorry, not directed at you. I meant I may be an ugly Californian but at least I'm not fat.

Posted by: wth at April 21, 2023 03:22 PM (v0R5T)

295 From what I read, most dangerous to developing brains, i.e. those under 30.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

So don't use it under 30. Hell, alcohol's not good for developing brains either, but, at least for Gen X, alcohol was why we went to college in the first place.

Posted by: SFGoth at April 21, 2023 03:23 PM (KAi1n)

296 Portland used to have some of the best dance community in the country. Basically every night there was something going on. The Swing dance and argentine tango communities were great. Heck, even the contra dances drew hundreds of people, which was crazy.

When I'd visit, I always had the same routine: Powell's, then dancing, then a cigar and one of the strip clubs (I'm a bachelor, sue me). No more.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at April 21, 2023 03:23 PM (wmDcS)

297
Recreational marijuana prices have fallen in Michigan, and you can still score a bag of potato chips for less than $2.00.

Thanks Governor Witmer!

Posted by: Auspex at April 21, 2023 03:23 PM (j4U/Z)

298 I live here in Portland metro. It's bad but not as bad as all this.

Yeah if you live in Beaverton, its not as horrible. But its spreading from the rot downtown. You're not save in Lake Oswego any more. That's why more and more people are commuting from smaller towns 20 miles away. Nobody wants to LIVE in Portland if they can avoid it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 21, 2023 03:23 PM (0hOvj)

299 I better just shut up.

Posted by: wth at April 21, 2023 03:23 PM (v0R5T)

300 Gutfeld is unwatchable…. Timpf is stupid and annoying.

Her laugh sounds like Doc Holliday clearing his lungs in the afternoon after a long night of drinking and laudanum
Posted by: ace at April 21, 2023 03:14 PM (iHBZj)

Nice!

That's some USDA Prime cruelty there, Ace.

BONUS! I LOL'd.

Posted by: naturalfake at April 21, 2023 03:24 PM (RJQ8g)

301 We tried that. Didn't work.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 21, 2023 03:20 PM (SbJgO)

He was being sarcastic because people are criticizing his drug of choice that has an iron grip on him .

Posted by: Lurker De Plume at April 21, 2023 03:24 PM (76TDd)

302 And then she’s baffled at why all the cute businesses in her downtown neighborhood have closed and sh can’t sell her condo.

Posted by: BEN ROETHLSBERGER at April 21, 2023 03:20 PM (u0yXH)

I know it's not nice, but did you consider laughing in her face and telling her she voted for it?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at April 21, 2023 03:24 PM (Angsy)

303 I better just shut up.
Posted by: wth at April 21, 2023 03:23 PM (v0R5T)

LMFAO.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 21, 2023 03:24 PM (Zz0t1)

304
Stop using fucking narcan and the problem fixes itself
Posted by: NCKate

They'll never allow that.

Just make it prescription-only. That'll take awhile to track down the addict's doc to get the scrip.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 21, 2023 03:24 PM (n+4am)

305 There is a non-facetious argument to be made that you can legalize the behavior itself (partaking of the substance) if you heavily criminalize the external behaviors due to that behavior (theft, harassment, vagrancy, whatever). It still might not be a "libertarian" argument, but i don't personally give a crap about that.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at April 21, 2023 03:13 PM (9UlRk)

It won't work, because as soon as you do that, you end up having to crack down so hard on the externalities that you effectively outlaw the substance use itself. And that only leads to bleeding heart liberals and their suburban white women enablers voting in more relaxed policies.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at April 21, 2023 03:24 PM (wmDcS)

306 298 I live here in Portland metro. It's bad but not as bad as all this.

Yeah if you live in Beaverton, its not as horrible. But its spreading from the rot downtown. You're not save in Lake Oswego any more. That's why more and more people are commuting from smaller towns 20 miles away. Nobody wants to LIVE in Portland if they can avoid it.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 21, 2023 03:23 PM (0hOvj)

That is what happened in St. Louis, another urban shithole.

Posted by: tubal at April 21, 2023 03:24 PM (PCK5/)

307 We tried that. Didn't work.
Posted by: rickb223

Doesn't seem like any prohibition works.

Posted by: SFGoth at April 21, 2023 03:25 PM (KAi1n)

308 295 From what I read, most dangerous to developing brains, i.e. those under 30.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

So don't use it under 30. Hell, alcohol's not good for developing brains either, but, at least for Gen X, alcohol was why we went to college in the first place.

Posted by: SFGoth at April 21, 2023 03:23 PM (KAi1n)

And I haven't. Didn't have my first drink until I was in my mid 20's. Now my wife, OTOH...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 21, 2023 03:25 PM (ynpvh)

309 Yeah it doesn't take long. I lived in a 'burb *far* downtown. Northglenn. One of the big signs for me that I had to bail BAMN was in spring '20, when my little stepdaughter freaked out because two naked male hobos were sponge-bathing each other on the sidewalk in front of the Wendy's.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 21, 2023 03:25 PM (oINRc)

310
Latest from Berenson about how Moderna lied on their clinical trial data:

https://tinyurl.com/28a7qdrn

In Feb 2021, they published a paper in a journal claiming no serious adverse events in the vaccine group. This was a lie.

By the time they finished the paper, there were about 7 serious adverse events (heart attack, miscarriage, etc). Before they unblinded and gave the placebo group the jabs, there were a total of 14 serious adverse events. There were 0 in the placebo group.

The FDA was well aware of this lying.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz) at April 21, 2023 03:25 PM (Mzdiz)

311 "From what I read, [gallowgrass is] most dangerous to developing brains"

If you've never tried it, please don't! Same for all other potentially habit-forming substances. Save a fortune over a lifetime.

Posted by: Peel gp A Grape at April 21, 2023 03:25 PM (MvF+J)

312 Like The X-Files, much of it resembles the Canadian wilderness...

"Georgia looks just like the hills east of LA!"
--The Duke Brothers
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 21, 2023 03:12 PM (0hOvj)

I'm a huge geography nerd. I love shows like Justified and Longmire, but I see again and again that this ain't Kentucky this is So-Cal. And not Wyoming, New Mexico.

Kinda rankles me. Wife just rolls her eyes.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Southpaw at April 21, 2023 03:26 PM (xPJvm)

313 No drugs should be legal (and that includes brewed, fermented, and distilled) because there are always some people who can't handle them and shit happens. Lotta alkies out there. Prohibit alcohol and throw the dips in prison.
Posted by: SFGoth

==========================

We tried that once. It sounded great in theory, and God Knows the Progressives are ALWAYS into trying new social theories!

It did not work out too well. We even amended the US Constitution to get rid of Prohibition a decade and a half later.

Start by SUCCESSFULLY getting the homeless addicts off the streets, then we can talk.

Posted by: rd at April 21, 2023 03:26 PM (Z32m1)

314
I better just shut up.
Posted by: wth at April 21, 2023 03:23 PM (v0R5T)

Don't worry about it. If I shut up every time I embarrassed myself, you'd never hear from me again.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 21, 2023 03:26 PM (MoZTd)

315 How's Seattle doing? We vacationed there over 15 years ago and it was weird as hell. Every public bench was a hobo monument, the Space needle was closed, the metro rail wasn't running and I was able to identify the warring factions as "Tree People" and "View People".

Public schools were closing because it was too expensive to raise kids, roads couldn't accommodate traffic because 'more roads mean more traffic' was the mantra.

I did appreciate the no bugs aspect though.

Posted by: DanMan at April 21, 2023 03:26 PM (DB6tu)

316 Another shooting that is not getting any air by the MSM: Six year old and her mother and father shot by deranged neighbor when their ball rolls into the man's yard. https://tinyurl.com/mr2swmf7

Not hard to figure out why this isn't national news and won't spark a outcry of "I want a America where you don't have to be afraid to play ball in your yard."

Posted by: scruboak at April 21, 2023 03:27 PM (jjH9L)

317 "There is a non-facetious argument to be made that you can legalize the behavior itself (partaking of the substance) if you heavily criminalize the external behaviors due to that behavior (theft, harassment, vagrancy, whatever)."

In areas that actually enforce laws against criminal external behavior, this is how alcohol is handled.

Posted by: SFGoth at April 21, 2023 03:27 PM (KAi1n)

318 They used to have a restaurant we frequented called Uncle Dan's. Dan and my dad's birthdays were a day a part, so they used to do a shot of Tiddy's together every year.

Last I heard, Dan retired after he was stabbed leaving the restaurant one night. I figured the town was doomed after hearing that.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 21, 2023 03:21 PM (Zz0t1)

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Wifey was born & raised in Waco and IIRC Uncle Dan's was her favorite barbecue restaurant (she took me there once when we visited in the early 2000s).

Posted by: ShainS -- The Abolition of The West is from Men Without Chests at April 21, 2023 03:27 PM (BYauB)

319 Take away my booze, I'm cuttin a bitch........

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 21, 2023 03:27 PM (Zz0t1)

320 Yeah, no more prohibition of booze. Stupidest idea ever. The WCTU (which is still around, by the way) was the original scold of Karens.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 21, 2023 03:27 PM (engrW)

321 Is white people overdosing on drugs cultural appropriation?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 21, 2023 03:27 PM (E9Gzz)

322 I'm a huge geography nerd. I love shows like Justified and Longmire, but I see again and again that this ain't Kentucky this is So-Cal. And not Wyoming

I think most of Longmire was filmed in New Mexico for some reason instead of Wyoming.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 21, 2023 03:27 PM (0hOvj)

323 313 No drugs should be legal (and that includes brewed, fermented, and distilled) because there are always some people who can't handle them and shit happens. Lotta alkies out there. Prohibit alcohol and throw the dips in prison.
Posted by: SFGoth

==========================

We tried that once. It sounded great in theory, and God Knows the Progressives are ALWAYS into trying new social theories!

It did not work out too well. We even amended the US Constitution to get rid of Prohibition a decade and a half later.

Start by SUCCESSFULLY getting the homeless addicts off the streets, then we can talk.

Posted by: rd at April 21, 2023 03:26 PM (Z32m1)

I'm surprised the Gov't didn't try poisoning illicit drugs like they did ethanol back in the 30's. Or maybe they did...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 21, 2023 03:27 PM (ynpvh)

324
And as all the portland libs move further out to the smaller communities so they can commute into Portland Hell, they bring their politics with them and "help" these usually conservative areas see the error of their MAGA ways by getting on the school boards, city councils, and starting "Community Cares" organizations to make sure it turns into the liberal shithole they just escaped from.

Posted by: Frank Barone at April 21, 2023 03:27 PM (+oR7L)

325 Maybe they change it to Aces?
Posted by: eleven at April 21, 2023 02:45 PM (iziT

Reno NV already has a Baseball team called the Ace's.

Posted by: Reforger at April 21, 2023 03:27 PM (L2T/B)

326 "two naked male hobos were sponge-bathing each other on the sidewalk in front of the Wendy's"

That's a show! That's a show!

Posted by: City About Nothing at April 21, 2023 03:27 PM (ik/65)

327 Gutfeld is unwatchable…. Timpf is stupid and annoying. The big wrestler guy with his championship belt is the only one that makes sense at least half the time…
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at April 21, 2023 03:11 PM (0gs5e)

Timpf seems like the kind of girl who answers her phone during sex.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at April 21, 2023 03:28 PM (wmDcS)

328 Chastity: White Supremacy
Temperance: White Supremacy
Charity: White Supremacy
Diligence: White Supremacy
Kindness: White Supremacy
Patience: White Supremacy
Humility: White Supremacy
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 21, 2023 03:02 PM (MoZTd)

++++++++++

It's almost like an advertisement for White Supremacy. With enemies like this who needs a PR team.

Posted by: DFCtomm at April 21, 2023 03:28 PM (NTi06)

329 I know it's not nice, but did you consider laughing in her face and telling her she voted for it?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at April 21, 2023 03:24 PM (Angsy)
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I've only ever done that once. I was in San Francisco for a conference and one of the other participants was a coworker who lived in the Bay Area. She is a very nice lady, but a reflexive prog who didn't hide it. She didn't lecture on politics all the time or anything, but she made her positions known.

Anyway, we were standing in a big reception room on the second floor of the hotel and looking out the window. Tents and vagrants lined the sidewalks below. She shook her head and said to me, "how did we let this happen?" I couldn't resist. I replied, "Have you considered which group has been charge of this decline and others like it for decades, and how you vote?"

She didn't yell. She didn't walk away. She didn't respond at all. Not even a tightening of the jaw. She looked more confused than anything else.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 21, 2023 03:28 PM (t0OGg)

330 194 >>Western Slope is the tits.

World Class Mt Biking. Everywhere.
Posted by: garrett at April 21, 2023 03:09 PM (P7IZS)

I've heard the same about the Grand Tetons.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at April 21, 2023 03:28 PM (/iWhV)

331 Other names for 'gallowgrass': neckweed, gage, moota, muggle, shit, skunk, dank, and 'Medicine.'

Posted by: Peel gp A Grape at April 21, 2023 03:28 PM (MvF+J)

332 I better just shut up.
Posted by: wth at April 21, 2023 03:23 PM (v0R5T)

Heh. It's all good, I wasn't offended or anything. I'm a fatass, I can admit it.

Posted by: Jordan61 at April 21, 2023 03:28 PM (DRSnL)

333 326 "two naked male hobos were sponge-bathing each other on the sidewalk in front of the Wendy's"

That's a show! That's a show!

Posted by: City About Nothing at April 21, 2023 03:27 PM (ik/65)

$20, same as in town.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 21, 2023 03:28 PM (ynpvh)

334 327 Gutfeld is unwatchable…. Timpf is stupid and annoying. The big wrestler guy with his championship belt is the only one that makes sense at least half the time…
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at April 21, 2023 03:11 PM (0gs5e)

Timpf seems like the kind of girl who answers her phone during sex.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at April 21, 2023 03:28 PM (wmDcS)

Even if she's reading a book?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 21, 2023 03:29 PM (ynpvh)

335 We tried that once. It sounded great in theory

At the time it actually seemed reasonable, because of the incredibly widespread destruction caused by cheap easy liquor. Lives, even towns were destroyed by it. But the solution was even worse than the problem; its the same every time. Social and cultural problems cannot be solved by adding government power.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 21, 2023 03:29 PM (0hOvj)

336 "the Space needle was closed"

You say that like it was a bad thing.

Posted by: Peel gp A Grape at April 21, 2023 03:29 PM (MvF+J)

337 I saw NARCAN open for Perimenopause at Ace-O-Spades '23.

Posted by: eleven at April 21, 2023 03:29 PM (iziT8)

338
Yes, and you find edibles are being consumed by kids, people with a sick sense of humor are putting it in shared dishes like potlucks, and dogs are getting poisoned by it. Then it is also has been bred to produce much more THC than the stuff in the 70's. In most cases involving drugs and medicine, the dose amount makes the poison and what doesn't kill you does not make you stronger.
Posted by: whig

I did all my pot-smoking during the sinsemilla revolution in the late 70s-early 80s. The Mexican ditch weed I started off with was fine, the sinsemilla that the cartels began selling (for twice the price or more) was shattering. And 80s sinse is nothing compared to the stuff nowadays.

There's a reason that I quit smoking that crap a long long time ago.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 21, 2023 03:29 PM (n+4am)

339 NARCAN -- Just make it prescription-only. That'll take awhile to track down the addict's doc to get the scrip.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur

====================

We just made it OTC at Pharmacies here.

Posted by: rd at April 21, 2023 03:30 PM (Z32m1)

340 In areas that actually enforce laws against criminal external behavior, this is how alcohol is handled.

Except the externalities of meth and alcohol don't really seem comparable (as substantial as the externalities of alcohol happen to be).

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at April 21, 2023 03:30 PM (ppBhU)

341 A great piece of trivial that is also a good mnemonic device:
"Facetious" is the shortest word in the English language that uses all of the vowels exactly once in their traditional "A-E-I-O-U" order. "Facetiously" is the shortest word that also includes the semivowel "Y."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 21, 2023 03:30 PM (t0OGg)

342 No drugs should be legal (and that includes brewed, fermented, and distilled) because there are always some people who can't handle them and shit happens. Lotta alkies out there. Prohibit alcohol and throw the dips in prison.

Or go the other way. For two years, and two years only, whatever drugs you want, 100% subsidized. Available anywhere that wants to participate. No Narcan, No detox, no EMT services. Just collect the Darwin Award winners up and haul to the crematorium.

That is how you cull out the weak, those without any ability to process abstracts, have serious impulse control problems or lack a will to live.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at April 21, 2023 03:30 PM (YXHzG)

343 281 No drugs should be legal (and that includes brewed, fermented, and distilled) because there are always some people who can't handle them and shit happens. Lotta alkies out there. Prohibit alcohol and throw the dips in prison.
Posted by: SFGoth

Society has had thousands of years to develop mechanisms on discouraging alcohol consumption and yet massive consumption of it still causes problems in places like Russia to the extent it lowered their life expectancy by about a decade.

People that like to take drugs recreationally need though to recognize that it will cause additional negative externalities to the rest of us and as we veer into designer drugs--simply put, society has no effective remedy to avoid massive costs to society and others. It will increase crime of all sorts, it will increase negative effects on the community via consumption by children, and so on.

Essentially, like the Covid vaxx, it is running an uncontrolled experiment on a population to legalize something deadly like fetanyl. Even the scientists have no idea what long term fentanyl users may suffer because literally there is no data on it to extrapolate sufficiently.

Continued.

Posted by: whig at April 21, 2023 03:30 PM (oqoj8)

344 off, sock

Posted by: Chuck C at April 21, 2023 03:30 PM (xttsV)

345 336 "the Space needle was closed"

You say that like it was a bad thing.

Posted by: Peel gp A Grape at April 21, 2023 03:29 PM (MvF+J)

One way to get high in Portland

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 21, 2023 03:31 PM (ynpvh)

346 Reno NV already has a Baseball team called the Ace's.

Posted by: Reforger at April 21, 2023 03:27 PM (L2T/B)

Ha ha ha ha ha ha! Like Reno counts!

Posted by: Clark County at April 21, 2023 03:31 PM (Angsy)

347 Timpf seems like the kind of girl who answers her phone during sex.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at April 21, 2023 03:28 PM (wmDcS)
........

When she should be eating a cheeseburger.

Posted by: wth at April 21, 2023 03:31 PM (v0R5T)

348 339 NARCAN -- Just make it prescription-only. That'll take awhile to track down the addict's doc to get the scrip.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur

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We just made it OTC at Pharmacies here.
Posted by: rd at April 21, 2023 03:30 PM (Z32m1)

The FDA approved Narcan for OTC use nationwide, just last month.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at April 21, 2023 03:31 PM (/iWhV)

349 "Even if she's reading a book?

Posted by: jim "

boom

Posted by: eleven at April 21, 2023 03:31 PM (iziT8)

350 Unfortunately my home town has been overrun by NYC transplants. Lot of od's and there are homeless but usually hidden in the woods until they wander out. If there's an economic downturn this place and the transplants will suffer

Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 21, 2023 03:31 PM (PINQh)

351 When she should be eating a cheeseburger.
Posted by: wth at April 21, 2023 03:31 PM (v0R5T)
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I don't get it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 21, 2023 03:31 PM (t0OGg)

352 He was being sarcastic because people are criticizing his drug of choice that has an iron grip on him .
Posted by: Lurker De Plume

Don't mix up subject and object. I have an iron grip on it. But it's always about our own drug of choice. Every one of you drinkers defends your drug of choice. You do you and I'll do me. And together we'll be fine because it takes....

Posted by: SFGoth at April 21, 2023 03:32 PM (KAi1n)

353 My "Seventy States Project" proposal:

CA -> 5 states
TX -> 3 states
2 states -> FL, NY, PA, IL, OH, GA, NC, MI, NJ, VA, WA, CO, OR

That gets you to 69. It would be easy to add a couple more if you wanted, such as AZ, or TN.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at April 21, 2023 03:32 PM (wmDcS)

354 I saw Semivowel open for Semisonic at the Cow Palace in '98.

Posted by: good show at April 21, 2023 03:32 PM (ivvNA)

355 Long term drug use effects ??? Consider - Keith Richards, Ozzy Osbourne…

Posted by: tubal at April 21, 2023 03:32 PM (PCK5/)

356 I'm surprised the Gov't didn't try poisoning illicit drugs like they did ethanol back in the 30's. Or maybe they did...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 21, 2023 03:27 PM (ynpvh)
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The govt hasn't been too successful in cutting off the fentanyl pipeline.

Is it just incompetence? Or something else?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 21, 2023 03:32 PM (YIVH2)

357 I don't really see any solution to drugs and alcohol, but total legalization can't possibly be one of them.

In ten years, we're going to have pleasure-stimulating brain-implants on the black market that are 1000X more enjoyable than fentanyl. That'll be a hoot. Everybody will be curled up next to USB ports, charging up.

Posted by: Peel gp A Grape at April 21, 2023 03:32 PM (MvF+J)

358 I think anything you produce should be legal for you to have and consume on your property.

Want to do coke? Grow it, refine it and snort your heart out.
Opium? Start growing those poppies.
Etc.
You can't sell it, just produce it.

Of course, it's pretty close to zero the number of folks who could do that. And none of them are addicts.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 21, 2023 03:33 PM (E9Gzz)

359 Post and be damned I say

Posted by: Skip at April 21, 2023 03:33 PM (xhxe8)

360 We’re trying to bring back prohibition, starting with Bud Lite!

Posted by: Woke Dems at April 21, 2023 03:33 PM (A4itf)

361 The argument to make all drugs legal is as harmful to a country as making all abortion legal. Or Prostitution. Or age of consent. Or a dozen other social ills.

Posted by: Lurker De Plume at April 21, 2023 03:33 PM (76TDd)

362 Portland: the East St. Louis of white people.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 21, 2023 03:33 PM (eAguo)

363 That gets you to 69. It would be easy to add a couple more if you wanted, such as AZ, or TN.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at April 21, 2023 03:32 PM (wmDcS)

+++++++++

WTF do you want to give California 10 senators? Isn't losing forever as a state enough?

Posted by: DFCtomm at April 21, 2023 03:33 PM (NTi06)

364 I think most of Longmire was filmed in New Mexico for some reason instead of Wyoming.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 21, 2023 03:27 PM (0hOvj)

Yup. I grew up in Wyoming. That ain't Wyoming.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Southpaw at April 21, 2023 03:33 PM (xPJvm)

365 She didn't yell. She didn't walk away. She didn't respond at all. Not even a tightening of the jaw. She looked more confused than anything else.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 21, 2023 03:28 PM (t0OGg)

Completely clueless, then.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at April 21, 2023 03:33 PM (Angsy)

366 345 Ha! I try and try, but I'll never be as funny and clever as you guys are!

Posted by: Peel gp A Grape at April 21, 2023 03:34 PM (MvF+J)

367 353 My "Seventy States Project" proposal:

CA -> 5 states
TX -> 3 states
2 states -> FL, NY, PA, IL, OH, GA, NC, MI, NJ, VA, WA, CO, OR

That gets you to 69. It would be easy to add a couple more if you wanted, such as AZ, or TN.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at April 21, 2023 03:32 PM (wmDcS)

Please don't make it 71

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 21, 2023 03:34 PM (ynpvh)

368 That gets you to 69. It would be easy to add a couple more if you wanted, such as AZ, or TN.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at April 21, 2023 03:32 PM (wmDcS)

You also need to combine a few making it harder to get to 69. RI, CT and MA for instance. NH and ME for another. For VT just give it to the Canadians.

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at April 21, 2023 03:34 PM (Ohafd)

369 It's almost like an advertisement for White Supremacy

This is the main problem. People who are not racist are being pushed that way by the insistence that everything they do and like is racist and evil. "Really? OK, I'm a racist then, f you"

If you portray every urban rot and culturally destructive pattern as "authentically black" or "minority" then people are going to necessarily conclude that minorities are awful and adhere to destructive, insane patterns.

Hint: THEY DO NOT. I have to say it again, the majority of black people are middle class. Many are very wealthy. They do not live in ghettos, drink Purple Drank, shoot their gun siddways at a bus full of kids trying to kill a gang rival, or rob people at ATMs. They are not out huffing paint fumes to get high, they do not use fantanyl.

But that's ALL WE HEAR. That's all the media gives us. For every Pursuit of Happyness movie we get 147 Gangasta movies. Its deliberate.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 21, 2023 03:34 PM (0hOvj)

370 356 I'm surprised the Gov't didn't try poisoning illicit drugs like they did ethanol back in the 30's. Or maybe they did...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 21, 2023 03:27 PM (ynpvh)
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The govt hasn't been too successful in cutting off the fentanyl pipeline.

Is it just incompetence? Or something else?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 21, 2023 03:32 PM (YIVH2)

Border policies ENCOURAGE it.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 21, 2023 03:34 PM (ynpvh)

371 72% of the votes for governor in Portland's county went to the left wing Governor, Kotek.

And the people there will NEVER admit they made a mistake.

Posted by: PJ at April 21, 2023 03:35 PM (G1dq6)

372 Posted by: SFGoth at April 21, 2023 03:32 PM (KAi1n)

Anytime this subject comes up you get sand in your vagina. You do you with your addiction.

Posted by: Lurker De Plume at April 21, 2023 03:35 PM (76TDd)

373 I'm surprised the Gov't didn't try poisoning illicit drugs like they did ethanol back in the 30's. Or maybe they did...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 21, 2023 03:27 PM (ynpvh)

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I remember reading a novel about that idea. A retired DEA or FBI Agent lost his kid, so he decided to poison drugs. He started off by poisoning the cocaine supply by slipping his poison into the chemicals needed to refine the Coca Paste.

The US FBI Tracked him down and killed him.

Posted by: rd at April 21, 2023 03:35 PM (Z32m1)

374 NARCAN is free at the local police station's "vending" machine.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 21, 2023 03:35 PM (Q4IgG)

375 The argument to make all drugs legal is as harmful to a country as making all abortion legal. Or Prostitution. Or age of consent. Or a dozen other social ills.
Posted by: Lurker De Plume at April 21, 2023 03:33 PM (76TDd)

Not that it's possible in this political/social climate, but is it better to have laws against those things or social norms?

Posted by: BurtTC at April 21, 2023 03:36 PM (eAguo)

376
Why aren't these people just rounded up like Putin and the Wagner group do in Russia, given crap weapons and dropped into Toronto, Ottawa, and all other crappy Canuck neighborhoods with the promise of free stuff from Fidel's son.

Win-win, I'm tellin' ya, eh?

Posted by: Auspex at April 21, 2023 03:36 PM (j4U/Z)

377 WTF do you want to give California 10 senators? Isn't losing forever as a state enough?
Posted by: DFCtomm at April 21, 2023 03:33 PM (NTi06)

Break up CA and at least half those senators will be conservative. CA's problems stem from it's size. Once you break it up into smaller states which aren't all dominated by LA and SF, you'll see improved governance and a change in policies.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at April 21, 2023 03:36 PM (wmDcS)

378 "People who are not racist are being pushed that way by the insistence that everything they do and like is racist and evil."

Getting shot at randomly, home-invaded, carjacked, and murdered are in the mix too. Makes people start to notice things they aren't supposed to notice.

Posted by: Peel gp A Grape at April 21, 2023 03:37 PM (MvF+J)

379 Break up CA and at least half those senators will be conservative. CA's problems stem from it's size. Once you break it up into smaller states which aren't all dominated by LA and SF, you'll see improved governance and a change in policies.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at April 21, 2023 03:36 PM (wmDcS)
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You could do it in two states to solve that problem.

Draw line splitting the state in two vertically, 50 miles in from the coast.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 21, 2023 03:37 PM (t0OGg)

380 Three people a day die from overdoses in Oregon.

That's because we are so compassionate, and Better Than You.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at April 21, 2023 03:37 PM (2tUFv)

381 Continuation.

From what I do, I recognize the enormous compliance costs on society from for example marijuana laws on everything from circumventing rights, asset forfeiture examples, and legal process costs. But, I also recognize that if you legalize it, you will get more people dead from driving while doped which a lot of people like doing, working while doped, etc. and many of the drugs now being consumed are very difficult to detect unless you know what you are looking for.

Basically, you short circuit parts of your brain machinery while under the influence of any drug including alcohol but ask any cop--determining under the influence of alcohol is far easier to determine than someone doped up. LSD for example used to require a spinal tap to confirm it (may still, I do not know). So, someone like you, with probably limited consumption habits and common sense are applying your standards in taking drugs to a massive number of others that lack that ability to limit consumption and/or lack common sense.

Essentially then you socialize the costs but privatize the benefits.

Posted by: whig at April 21, 2023 03:38 PM (oqoj8)

382
Draw line splitting the state in two vertically, 50 miles in from the coast.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 21, 2023 03:37 PM (t0OGg)

A "butt crack" if you will.....

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 21, 2023 03:38 PM (Zz0t1)

383 Break up CA and at least half those senators will be conservative. CA's problems stem from it's size. Once you break it up into smaller states which aren't all dominated by LA and SF, you'll see improved governance and a change in policies.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile

And watch the coastal states of Nuevo Californica go bankrupt toot sweet.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 21, 2023 03:39 PM (SbJgO)

384 382
Draw line splitting the state in two vertically, 50 miles in from the coast.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 21, 2023 03:37 PM (t0OGg)

A "butt crack" if you will.....

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 21, 2023 03:38 PM (Zz0t1)

San Fran will insist on facing the asshole in that crack.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 21, 2023 03:39 PM (ynpvh)

385 You also need to combine a few making it harder to get to 69. RI, CT and MA for instance. NH and ME for another. For VT just give it to the Canadians.
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at April 21, 2023 03:34 PM (Ohafd)

Nah, smaller states are better. Basically you want a state to be as small as possible while still large enough-geographically and population-wise- to have some diversity in its economy and some ability for self-sustainment.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at April 21, 2023 03:39 PM (wmDcS)

386 Draw line splitting the state in two vertically, 50 miles in from the coast.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 21, 2023 03:37 PM (t0OGg)

A "butt crack" if you will.....
Posted by: Sponge

Along the San Andreas fault.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 21, 2023 03:39 PM (SbJgO)

387 A customer just tipped me with a sugwr cookie. It was so sweet I'm hallucinating.

Posted by: That Northern skulker at April 21, 2023 03:39 PM (MOoWd)

388 DC becomes a state every county in the country can be one too

Posted by: Skip at April 21, 2023 03:39 PM (xhxe8)

389 OCP - Occupied Communist Portland.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 21, 2023 03:39 PM (zcyn9)

390 371 72% of the votes for governor in Portland's county went to the left wing Governor, Kotek.

And the people there will NEVER admit they made a mistake.
Posted by: PJ

IN a mail in ballot system, it is safer to say 72 percent of ballots went to Kotek, not votes. That is even leaving aside whether they were mentally incompetent at the time of voting or actually existed as a real person.

Posted by: whig at April 21, 2023 03:40 PM (oqoj8)

391 If you portray every urban rot and culturally destructive pattern as "authentically black" or "minority" then people are going to necessarily conclude that minorities are awful and adhere to destructive, insane patterns.

Hint: THEY DO NOT. I have to say it again, the majority of black people are middle class. Many are very wealthy. They do not live in ghettos, drink Purple Drank, shoot their gun sideways at a bus full of kids trying to kill a gang rival, or rob people at ATMs. They are not out huffing paint fumes to get high, they do not use fantanyl.

But that's ALL WE HEAR. That's all the media gives us. For every Pursuit of Happyness movie we get 147 Gangasta movies. Its deliberate.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 21, 2023 03:34 PM (0hOvj)

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The Democrats were the party of Black Chattel Slavery. After the Republicans freed all the slaves owned by Democrats, the Democrats formed the KKK to terrorize Republicans and Blacks.

Has anything changed since then? Democrats RUN the lawless shithole cities. They revel in the ruin and debauchery.

Posted by: rd at April 21, 2023 03:40 PM (Z32m1)

392 The concern I have with weed being legal in Oregon is that a HUGE NUMBER of people are taking edible and smoking ganja, since its legal. And a lot of them are teenagers.

Its pretty well demonstrated medically that pot screws up your brain as a developing kid. I saw it in real time with friends and family. But also, weed reduces productivity and motivation, it saps ambition, it slows reaction times. And that's bad for all society and all of us, everywhere. Weed makes you time travel: you get stoned and then sober up and wonder where the day went, because you climb off the couch covered in Uber Eats delivery wrappers and eyes aching from watching cartoon network all day.

When the drugs were illegal, normies didn't use much and the damage was restricted to people who were more or less social dead weight anyway. Now?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 21, 2023 03:41 PM (0hOvj)

393 "But that's ALL WE HEAR. That's all the media gives us."

The media bend over backwards to HIDE the color of crime.

Posted by: Peel gp A Grape at April 21, 2023 03:41 PM (MvF+J)

394 A customer just tipped me with a sugwr cookie. It was so sweet I'm hallucinating.
Posted by: That Northern skulker

Granny got pcp.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 21, 2023 03:41 PM (SbJgO)

395 A customer just tipped me with a sugwr cookie. It was so sweet I'm hallucinating.

Posted by: That Northern skulker at April 21, 2023 03:39 PM (MOoWd)

You were tipped an edible. Spit it out!

Posted by: OrangeEnt at April 21, 2023 03:41 PM (Angsy)

396 It does seem like the US map will change at some point in my lifetime.
Posted by: eleven

Possibly but what I think is more likely is the ability to travel between states may become restricted . Border points of entry requiring identification and a stated purpose for entry. Sounds pretty ridiculous doesn't it . Can't happen here. Think again

Posted by: Sock Monkey * of the Horde clan at April 21, 2023 03:41 PM (mDXyw)

397 I know a number of people who love their Marijuana. I have friends who grow their own.

Posted by: That Northern skulker at April 21, 2023 03:42 PM (MOoWd)

398 The Democrats were the party of Black Chattel Slavery. After the Republicans freed all the slaves owned by Democrats, the Democrats formed the KKK to terrorize Republicans and Blacks.

Has anything changed since then? Democrats RUN the lawless shithole cities. They revel in the ruin and debauchery.

Posted by: rd at April 21, 2023 03:40 PM (Z32m1)

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Well, one difference is that they wanted gun control back then so that blacks couldn't defend themselves.

Oh wait ... nevermind.

Posted by: ShainS -- The Abolition of The West is from Men Without Chests at April 21, 2023 03:43 PM (zaWyB)

399 Here's how I know the large percentage of people in Oregon are indulging in reefer: there's a pot "dispensary" on nearly every freaking street corner in town. I thought supply and demand would shut most of them down, but no, they went from a shell of a store with a cheap sign out from to a really nice renovated building with a logo and slick design. They're not just surviving, they are thriving.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 21, 2023 03:43 PM (0hOvj)

400 Seriously I'm sensitive to sugar.

Posted by: That Northern skulker at April 21, 2023 03:43 PM (MOoWd)

401
Also, you can thank Prohibition for the mafia and organized crime. Running illegal booze was how they got started big time.

When you're running some illegal substance like this, the game becomes to make it more and more concentrated. Basically, density, less volume for more of the illegal goody you're running.

I remember reading years ago how this more concentrated booze made more alcoholics. They would guzzle the high proof stuff. Women alcoholics were a rare thing before Prohibition, but after that, you got a bunch.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz) at April 21, 2023 03:44 PM (Mzdiz)

402 358 I think anything you produce should be legal for you to have and consume on your property.

Want to do coke? Grow it, refine it and snort your heart out.
Opium? Start growing those poppies.
Etc.
You can't sell it, just produce it.

Of course, it's pretty close to zero the number of folks who could do that. And none of them are addicts.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice
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Some drugs are relatively trivial to make actually and of course then you would get people arguing that the drugs they made were for personal consumption when they actually intend to sell them. Then you have to have possession amounts and that starts the whole ball of wax on compliance legislation started.

I find it somewhat amusing that no fountain of wealth came from legal marijuana shops--in part because illegal is cheaper and marijuana is called weed because essentially it is easy to grow. There is not a good way to distinguish hemp growth from marijuana either. So people buy illegal dope or raise their own denying the state revenue.

Posted by: whig at April 21, 2023 03:44 PM (oqoj8)

403 "the majority of black people are middle class."

*Sigh* The median net worth of black Americans is around $25K. The median for whites is around $180K.

https://tinyurl.com/3rajvyty

This is caused by "bad Democrat policies," of course. Could not possibly be caused by anything else.

Posted by: Peel gp A Grape at April 21, 2023 03:44 PM (MvF+J)

404 Yeah if you live in Beaverton, its not as horrible. But its spreading from the rot downtown. You're not save in Lake Oswego any more. That's why more and more people are commuting from smaller towns 20 miles away. Nobody wants to LIVE in Portland if they can avoid it.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 21, 2023 03:23 PM (0hOvj)

Lot of the tiny towns south of Portland are all sporting apartments and tract housing. Places like Donald, St. Paul, Gervis, ......

Posted by: Beartooth at April 21, 2023 03:45 PM (SJLjq)

405 Eating sugar cubes at funerals was a thing in my parent's culture.

Posted by: That Northern skulker at April 21, 2023 03:45 PM (MOoWd)

406 Possibly but what I think is more likely is the ability to travel between states may become restricted . Border points of entry requiring identification and a stated purpose for entry. Sounds pretty ridiculous doesn't it . Can't happen here. Think again

Posted by: Sock Monkey

Read a book growing up that did that. Border control points into Shangri-la California.

Funny how it turned out 180 degrees opposite in real life.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 21, 2023 03:45 PM (SbJgO)

407 "Possibly but what I think is more likely is the ability to travel between states may become restricted"

Like during the dempanic?

Posted by: City About Nothing at April 21, 2023 03:45 PM (ik/65)

408 identification and a stated purpose for entry. Sounds pretty ridiculous doesn't it . Can't happen here. Think again

Posted by: Sock Monkey * of the Horde clan at April 21, 2023 03:41 PM (mDXyw)

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One of my long-running jokes for the past decade after having escaped from Califzuela is -- when old friends and co-workers invite or request we come visit -- is to tell them we can't enter the state at the checkpoint because we voted for Trump.

Posted by: ShainS -- The Abolition of The West is from Men Without Chests at April 21, 2023 03:46 PM (zaWyB)

409 Joe Mannix, I always ask, why have the bad areas of all the cities we know gotten bigger, and the good areas smaller?

Blank stare.

And another problem with the vagrants is that as soon as you start shooing dope and living on the street, you are exempt from all law, not just vagrancy. They have warrants from other jurisdictions but no action is ever taken.

Posted by: PJ at April 21, 2023 03:46 PM (G1dq6)

410 I have been working with a lot of blue collar contractor types, getting work done on the house. I have tried 5 times to get a landscaper to the house to get the back yard redone and 4 times they flaked on me. Finally getting one to show up and work, I told him about it.

His response was; they want your work but their people are not reliable. Young people don't want to do the hard work for the good pay. They want to be paid what the boss of 30 years experience gets, and they just stop showing up to work. They want to stay home, play video games, go on Only Fans and get 100 grand a month, do Youtube and Tik Tok stuff and get paid for that, instead of labor. So these guys are having a harder and harder time getting workers.

I'm sure that is completely unrelated to weed.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 21, 2023 03:46 PM (0hOvj)

411 I try not to judge people I come across in real life but that gets tossed aside on the web and I'm just spitballing here but methinks the OD problems would be significantly reduced if Narcan was not used to 'rescue' people.

Scare quotes on rescue because preventing the immediate death w/o putting the junkies into a psych hospital to get 'dried up' and get them some counseling, especially if they are flirting with suicide is like tossing someone who fell off an ocean liner a life buoy without a rope to pull them back onto the boat.

Posted by: PaleRider at April 21, 2023 03:47 PM (3cGpq)

412 Also, you can thank Prohibition for the mafia and organized crime. Running illegal booze was how they got started big time.

When you're running some illegal substance like this, the game becomes to make it more and more concentrated. Basically, density, less volume for more of the illegal goody you're running.

Let someone else carry the water.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 21, 2023 03:47 PM (SbJgO)

413 400 Skulker, are you at least hallucinating hot babes?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 21, 2023 03:47 PM (engrW)

414 I know a number of people who love their Marijuana. I have friends who grow their own.
Posted by: That Northern skulker at April 21, 2023 03:42 PM (MOoWd)

The benefits of cannabis are way overstated, and the harm is way understated.

That being said, it shouldn't be illegal. We're way past that now. Any state that still criminalizes it is doing it for reasons other than benefitting the public.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 21, 2023 03:48 PM (eAguo)

415 It will take maybe another five to twenty years, but we will find out that THC is not a good drug. there are lots of cases of people in emergency rooms with full blown psychotic episodes from over indulgence of harmless marijuana.
Posted by: rd at April 21, 2023 03:18 PM (Z32m1)
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If I never take care of someone with Marijuana induced cyclic vomiting again, I will be pleased.

Posted by: Darth Randall at April 21, 2023 03:48 PM (NZrf3)

416 So does lightrail in Dallas have vagrants living on it or crime?

Posted by: PJ at April 21, 2023 03:48 PM (G1dq6)

417 When the EMTs are reviving people who deliberately OD'd, aren't they restricting those people's freedoms? If they want to OD, they should be allowed to!

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at April 21, 2023 03:48 PM (p+1gI)

418 Also, you can thank Prohibition for the mafia and organized crime. Running illegal booze was how they got started big time.

Yeah, you can make a very compelling argument that prohibition created organized crime in America. It was sort of around before that, but it was pretty disorganized, more like well-dressed street gangs.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 21, 2023 03:48 PM (0hOvj)

419 "The benefits of cannabis are way overstated, and the harm is way understated."

If you've never tried it before, PLEASE DON'T.

Posted by: Peel gp A Grape at April 21, 2023 03:49 PM (MvF+J)

420 Heh, heh, “Beaverton,” heh heh.

— Beavis

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 21, 2023 03:49 PM (engrW)

421 322 I'm a huge geography nerd. I love shows like Justified and Longmire, but I see again and again that this ain't Kentucky this is So-Cal. And not Wyoming

I think most of Longmire was filmed in New Mexico for some reason instead of Wyoming.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

I also read that some of Justified was shot around Pittsburgh.

Posted by: Puddleglum at April 21, 2023 03:49 PM (sAmhv)

422 The Portland Tranq wars will be epic entertainment.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at April 21, 2023 03:50 PM (N5C4b)

423 NOOD LeMon

Posted by: Inogame at April 21, 2023 03:50 PM (53oGX)

424 Watching these videos of Portland is like watching scenes from Batman/Gotham/Joker.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at April 21, 2023 03:51 PM (h1jJh)

425 When the drugs were illegal, normies didn't use much and the damage was restricted to people who were more or less social dead weight anyway. Now?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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You will get a more invasive government from spillover effects in the future and increasing incompetence in the service industry. Combined with vaping and edibles, you will also get people drugged up at work such are running registers, etc.

So, society in the future will decide whether the now obvious costs outweigh the benefits and what the compliance costs will be for spillover effects.

Most places have decriminalized it, not legalized it such as Portugal and Switzerland and the Netherlands seems to be tiring of its central cities being the escort and drug capital of Euroland--they are cracking down on both of those industries.

It is the cycle of humanity whenever something new comes along whether technology like the internet, drugs like birth control pills, or even distribution such as drones or planes flying over your land. Something happens and the law will adapt itself to catch up.

Posted by: whig at April 21, 2023 03:52 PM (oqoj8)

426 The mayor where I live wants to create 'safe parking for people living in their cars'

Posted by: DB - never get out of the boat at April 21, 2023 03:52 PM (geLO8)

427 "The Democrats were the party of Black Chattel Slavery. After the Republicans freed all the slaves owned by Democrats, the Democrats formed the KKK to terrorize Republicans and Blacks.

Has anything changed since then? Democrats RUN the lawless shithole cities. They revel in the ruin and debauchery."

Once Woodrow Wilson was finished terrorizing blacks the unions took over and controlled who got work.

Once Truman was gone in the 50's repubs began trying to pass civil rights laws but LBJ sidetracked that effort by turning it into affirmative action welfare by 1965 that required payments to single mothers of blacks to chase off marriage in that community.

and the beat goes on...drums keep pounding rhythms to my brain

Posted by: DanMan at April 21, 2023 03:52 PM (DB6tu)

428 Along the San Andreas fault.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 21, 2023 03:39 PM (SbJgO)
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Lex Luthor was a visionary.

Posted by: Darth Randall at April 21, 2023 03:53 PM (NZrf3)

429 My daughter lives in Portland and if something happens to her, I'm killing everyone.

I am going full Punisher/DeadPool with no regard for human life, not even my own.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at April 21, 2023 03:53 PM (h1jJh)

430 Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz) at April 21, 2023 03:44 PM (Mzdiz)

Actually the number of alcoholics decreased, the number of liver cirrhosis cases decreased and work accidents decreased . That said, Alcohol is unique as it has been part of the social norm since the beginning of civilization. Banning it was never going to work and critics rightly predicted it would lead to uncontrolled crime as a result of a black market. Again the only silver lining was a slight change in social use after it was legalized again.

Posted by: Lurker De Plume at April 21, 2023 03:54 PM (76TDd)

431 So, society in the future will decide whether the now obvious costs outweigh the benefits and what the compliance costs will be for spillover effects.

Exactly. All of this was predictable (and predicted) but I mean, its a tough argument to say that some kid smoking a jay should be arrested.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 21, 2023 03:54 PM (0hOvj)

432 The White House leaps into action!

Biden Creates New Government Agency, the "Office of Environmental justice"

Is it going to make sure weekends are warm and sunny?

Posted by: azjaeger at April 21, 2023 03:56 PM (Y9qFw)

433 Our celebrated lesbian governor (Tina Kotek)promised to fix the homeless problem in Oregon as her number one goal...Bitch you caused all of this as speaker of the house in the Oregon legislature for years. The decline in Oregon tracks directly with you tenure as speaker.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at April 21, 2023 03:57 PM (h1jJh)

434
The people who run hospitals are the opposite of the people who should run them. They're cruel, heartless, nicklesticking, greedy, and utterly lacking in ethics. The people who work there, they tend to be good folks. But the administration is satanic.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 21, 2023 03:19 PM (0hOvj)

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Hospital Administrators see Gender (Destroying) Surgery as a new, untapped Growth Market for Medical Services. They WANT to butcher Children. Castrate them, cut off their breasts, Sterilize them forever.

Need anyone say anything more?

Posted by: rd at April 21, 2023 03:57 PM (Z32m1)

435 Yeah, you can make a very compelling argument that prohibition created organized crime in America. It was sort of around before that, but it was pretty disorganized, more like well-dressed street gangs.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 21, 2023 03:48 PM (0hOvj)

The mafia predated prohibition. Irish gangs predated prohibition. Prohibition was just another operation they could add to prostitution, loan sharking, booking making, gambling, etc.

Posted by: Lurker De Plume at April 21, 2023 03:58 PM (76TDd)

436 Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
@AOC
Jokes aside, this [the great blue check purge] is setting the stage for major potential harm when a natural disaster hits and no one knows what agencies, reporters, or outlets are real.
Not long ago we had major flash floods. We had to mobilize trusted info fast to save lives. Today just made that harder

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Donkey Chompers is something of an imperfect messenger for trust the government.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 21, 2023 04:00 PM (gUFwZ)

437 You will get a more invasive government from spillover effects in the future and increasing incompetence in the service industry. Combined with vaping and edibles, you will also get people drugged up at work such are running registers, etc.

Wait until they use around heavy equipment. It'll be a self correcting problem.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 21, 2023 04:01 PM (SbJgO)

438 Yeah, you can make a very compelling argument that prohibition created organized crime in America.

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Yeah? Well, the Democrats perfected it.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 21, 2023 04:02 PM (gUFwZ)

439 Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
@AOC
Jokes aside, this [the great blue check purge] is setting the stage for major potential harm when a natural disaster hits and no one knows what agencies, reporters, or outlets are real.
Not long ago we had major flash floods. We had to mobilize trusted info fast to save lives. Today just made that harder

OMG! How did we evah survive for hundreds of years without Titter?

Posted by: rickb223 at April 21, 2023 04:02 PM (SbJgO)

440 When Mr. Jen and I traveled to Indianapolis last week part of our journey was through little towns that have not had a new building built for 75 years. Except for the modern sleek pot shops. Sometimes two or three in a town that has six blocks of 1890 wood buildings and one has one gas station. We were stunned.

Posted by: Jen the original at April 21, 2023 04:17 PM (lpJh7)

441 Portland had a drug overdose rate of 11 per 100000 55 total 650000 population
West Virginia has a drug of/death rate 8 times. That
Well over 1000 people ODed in that shithole of a stste.

Posted by: Paul at April 21, 2023 04:20 PM (Bz6G8)

442 Break up CA and at least half those senators will be conservative. CA's problems stem from it's size. Once you break it up into smaller states which aren't all dominated by LA and SF, you'll see improved governance and a change in policies.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at April 21, 2023 03:36 PM (wmDcS)

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This is the problem with people. You aren't considering the disastrous implications if you're wrong, and the complete inability to walk it back. You're just throwin it out there to see how it sounds. You would need a majority of those 10 senators for this to be beneficial to your side and you really need to make the case that you can capture six of them.

Posted by: DFCtomm at April 21, 2023 04:22 PM (NTi06)

443 West Virginia has the highest rate of people leaving

Posted by: Paul at April 21, 2023 04:23 PM (6InzA)

444 Wall it in until they all die

Posted by: jeff at April 21, 2023 04:33 PM (pvt9V)

445 Looks like Trump screwed up in Sudan and passed anorther problem to poor ole Joe ........

Posted by: Ferd Berfall at April 21, 2023 04:49 PM (R+nZe)

446
"You call someplace Paradise, Kiss it good-bye."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbZSIpsO8rU
Posted by: California Democrats

Henley, as you may recall, blamed all the negative things on "Jesus people". What a perspicacious jagoff he is ...

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 21, 2023 05:01 PM (pNxlR)

447
Not long ago we had major flash floods. We had to mobilize trusted info fast to save lives. Today just made that harder

There are some who might say that de-certifying those whose expertise and assistance was questionable at best may well be a good thing.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 21, 2023 05:04 PM (pNxlR)

448 351 When she should be eating a cheeseburger.
Posted by: wth at April 21, 2023 03:31 PM (v0R5T)
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I don't get it.
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She's real skinny. Probably goes like a rattlesnake, though!

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at April 21, 2023 05:48 PM (AcLxR)

449 Can we have true people’s social justice and equity and give all the Tracy’s and queers and Valvoline’s all the free drugs they want?

Can we remove all the police and let all these Antifa and BLM types let their frustrations out on all their enemies and listen to those voices in their heads and allow all those social workers to deal with them. And let all those trust fund babies deal with them and share their homes with them?

I know that Obama will be happy to share with them and the Soros and Biden’s too.

Posted by: Jake at April 22, 2023 04:22 PM (EcD5Y)

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