Judeo-Christian Philosophy And The Glory Of Western Culture

Today marks the historical beginning of Christianity, which is one of the pillars of Western civilization, along with ancient Greece, ancient Rome, and obviously Judaism. The religious, philosophical, cultural and social underpinnings of modern free societies exist because of those four things.

But Christianity was one of the catalysts for the spread of that unique blend across the Western world, which is why the West is Christian.

The Resurrection
Domḗnikos Theotokópoulos

The West's success is inextricably linked to Judeo-Christian philosophy and culture, and perhaps the most important aspect of it it is respect for life and the individual.

The caustic effects of movement away from the primacy of life and the individual can be seen in any socialist country, with Stalin's Soviet Union, Hitler's Third Reich, Mao's China and Pol Pot's Cambodia as the most awful examples of a world in which communitarianism (a pretty name for The State) transcends the individual.

A federal judge suspends FDA's longtime approval of an abortion pill, but gives the government 7 days to appeal

In an unprecedented move, U.S. District Judge Matthew Kacsmaryk on Friday suspended the Food and Drug Administration's longtime approval of key abortion pill mifepristone, though he gave the government a week to appeal his decision. If the ruling does eventually go into effect, it would curtail access to the standard regimen for medication abortion nationwide.

I cannot judge the legal merits of this case, and the political aspects of it are fraught with danger for the Republican party (listen to the newest CutJibNewsletter Podcast for more on that), but sending the message to America that the destruction of life is not an unalloyed good thing is powerful, even if the message comes via a legal machination.

Abortion isn't just about the killing of a baby in the womb. It is about the coarsening of our culture and the loss of respect for life. How can a supposedly modern and enlightened society turn its back on the weakest and most innocent among us and approve of their destruction without a concomitant coarsening of its attitude toward ALL life?

Yes, there is a philosophical argument against abortion that can be made without explicit reference to theology. But they are intertwined, and it would be difficult to separate them. Nor should we. Respect for religious teachings is part and parcel of most of our political philosophy, and the founders of our great nation were in the main religious men who relied on religious teaching for their moral guides.

And...denying that connection is a powerful tool in the left's arsenal, so supporters of individual freedom and respect for life should push back forcefully when it is wielded in defense of abortion. Acceptance of Judeo-Christian philosophy, morality and ethics is not de facto approval of Catholic Apologetics, or even religion, but it is a recognition that the glories of Western Culture are based in large part on the teachings of those religions.

Posted by: CBD at 12:00 PM

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1 Art thread

Posted by: Skip at April 09, 2023 12:00 PM (xhxe8)

2 Religion thread.

Posted by: lin-duh at April 09, 2023 12:02 PM (UUBmN)

3 AOC says the Supreme Court is no longer legitimate. She should be expelled from congress.

Posted by: Last Days of the Republic at April 09, 2023 12:03 PM (9IO4j)

4 Thanks CBD and Happy Easter to you and yourn !

Posted by: JT at April 09, 2023 12:04 PM (T4tVD)

5 Life.

Posted by: lin-duh at April 09, 2023 12:04 PM (UUBmN)

6 hiya

Posted by: JT at April 09, 2023 12:05 PM (T4tVD)

7 Well said and much appreciated.

Posted by: N. Lurker at April 09, 2023 12:05 PM (eGTCV)

8 1st IMO Leftism has corrupted art to destroy the concept of meaning and glory of western civilization art
2nd they started abortion as a very early fix to the supposed sexual revolution, but getting that have pushed for longer and longer until the latest day before birth of a baby. Give a inch and you will end up giving up a mile.

Posted by: Skip at April 09, 2023 12:06 PM (xhxe8)

9 There is but one law in town.

Posted by: Joey "Fingers" Biden. at April 09, 2023 12:07 PM (7BGrI)

10 Acceptance of Judeo-Christian philosophy, morality and ethics is not de facto approval of Catholic Apologetics, or even religion, but it is a recognition that the glories of Western Culture are based in large part on the teachings of those religions.

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Traditionalist: "Do unto others as you would have others do unto you."

Post modernist: "You're not the boss of me!"

Posted by: Muldoon at April 09, 2023 12:08 PM (ykeLU)

11 Moral Equivalency will be the death of western civilization and the death of all this is good

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 09, 2023 12:09 PM (Irn0L)

12 I mean what sort of person would find the premise of the Golden Rule objectionable?

Posted by: Muldoon at April 09, 2023 12:11 PM (ykeLU)

13 Happy Easter Captain !

Posted by: JT at April 09, 2023 12:11 PM (T4tVD)

14 Domḗnikos Theotokópoulos

aka Nicky the Greek. well, in Spanish. who wants to write out his full name in any language?

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 09, 2023 12:12 PM (r46W7)

15 I mean what sort of person would find the premise of the Golden Rule objectionable?
Posted by: Muldoon at April 09, 2023 12:11 PM (ykeLU)

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People who mean to rule.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 09, 2023 12:12 PM (u73oe)

16 3 AOC says the Supreme Court is no longer legitimate. She should be expelled from congress.
Posted by: Last Days of the Republic at April 09, 2023 12:03 PM (9IO4j)

She's transitioned from stupid to stupid and evil.

Posted by: N. Lurker at April 09, 2023 12:12 PM (eGTCV)

17 Can you imagine what the world would be like had Christianity not caught on?

I honestly think humanity would have destroyed ourselves by now.

Posted by: Blago at April 09, 2023 12:13 PM (cOFom)

18 Traditionalist: "Do unto others as you would have others do unto you."

Post modernist: "You're not the boss of me!"
Posted by: Muldoon

You forgot one...
Do unto others then run like hell.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at April 09, 2023 12:13 PM (Wy1BU)

19 12 I mean what sort of person would find the premise of the Golden Rule objectionable?
Posted by: Muldoon at April 09, 2023 12:11 PM (ykeLU)

the person who doesn't have the Gold but wants it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 09, 2023 12:13 PM (r46W7)

20 Someone brought up how important actual ownership of land/property is and how it is actually a unique thing in most of the world for individuals to own it. But taxes kill the actual true ownership of said land/property. Still we are unique in that all you need is money to "own" property. In many places it's still hereditary where there is "individual" ownership verses a feudal/state system still in place.

Posted by: lin-duh at April 09, 2023 12:15 PM (UUBmN)

21 Abortion isn't just about the killing of a baby in the womb. It is about the coarsening of our culture and the loss of respect for life. How can a supposedly modern and enlightened society turn its back on the weakest and most innocent among us and approve of their destruction without a concomitant coarsening of its attitude toward ALL life.

If acceptance of this moral reality means the breakup of this country, then break up it must.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 09, 2023 12:16 PM (r46W7)

22 It's a war on happiness.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at April 09, 2023 12:16 PM (BdMk6)

23 In America, the only people who don't accept Judeo Christian philosophy appear to be the Judeos.

Posted by: Oschisms at April 09, 2023 12:16 PM (0A5+1)

24 We're heading towards another Dark Ages.

Reason, debate, and logic are being ignored. Mob rules are spreading at an alarming rate and being encouraged by national leaders.

And then you add an increasingly aggressive China. We are in very serious trouble.

Posted by: Last Days of the Republic at April 09, 2023 12:17 PM (9IO4j)

25 If I have it correctly, Passover for the Jewish began at sunset on the 5th this year. So basically that would be the 6th, in that the start of the next day (Biblically) was at sunset.

And Passover is a "special high day", also called a Sabbath, if I have it correctly. So happy Passover. (something about unleavened bread goes on for 7 days I think).

But it means there were two Sabbaths last week. Important in understanding how Jesus was crucified before the sabbath, but it was a high day. It was Wednesday. At Sunset Jesus was in the tomb, the first night of the three nights and three days (like Jonah in the whale, dead). Jesus was our Passover lamb, now our high priest forever, (and our brother).

Posted by: illiniwek at April 09, 2023 12:17 PM (Cus5s)

26 Imagine, if you will, a creature of evolution (according to the left), that supports killing its young and sterilizing those who survive through denying their true gender.

WWJD?

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at April 09, 2023 12:18 PM (Mzdiz)

27 In America, the only people who don't accept Judeo Christian philosophy appear to be the Judeos.

Posted by: Oschisms at April 09, 2023 12:16 PM (0A5+1)

"...the only people."

Yeah. Sure. You go with that.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 09, 2023 12:19 PM (mMC7/)

28 WWJD?
Posted by: Miley,

It's whip o'clock baby!

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at April 09, 2023 12:19 PM (Wy1BU)

29 don't quote the trolls. is that so hard to do ?

Posted by: jeet at April 09, 2023 12:20 PM (Iynsv)

30 worse then a Dark Ages, its more like the Bronze Age, the return of the old gods

do I think that the clinton administration took shortcuts in the approval of miprestone (which what we know now,)

Posted by: no 6 at April 09, 2023 12:20 PM (PXvVL)

31 As Saint Paul wrote, if the Resurrection is lie, the whole thing is vain and pernicious.

IMHO, Saint Paul is the luckiest of the Pharisees and most men. Jesus paid him a personal visit on the road to Damascus. Paul had no doubt after that.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at April 09, 2023 12:20 PM (5u1+1)

32 20 Someone brought up how important actual ownership of land/property is and how it is actually a unique thing in most of the world for individuals to own it. But taxes kill the actual true ownership of said land/property. Still we are unique in that all you need is money to "own" property. In many places it's still hereditary where there is "individual" ownership verses a feudal/state system still in place.
Posted by: lin-duh at April 09, 2023 12:15 PM (UUBmN)

When Russia expanded east of the Caucasus, the Tsars and the Russian aristocracy took ownership of all of it, and later the Soviets continued their policies. It is still mostly undeveloped. At the same time, as America expanded west, much of the best land was given to private citizens through the Homesteading program and other similar policies. (The feds still own 90% of places like Nevada because no one else wanted that worthless dirt)

Imagine what Russia could have been if their East had been developed like our West was.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 09, 2023 12:21 PM (r46W7)

33 So I was looking at some threads I missed the last few days and saw a comment about Vic. Have we lost Vic?

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at April 09, 2023 12:21 PM (Wy1BU)

34 Greeks do give Russians a run for long names

Posted by: Skip at April 09, 2023 12:22 PM (xhxe8)

35 Passover was Thursday that week.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at April 09, 2023 12:22 PM (5u1+1)

36 Abortion isn't just about the killing of a baby in the womb. It is about the coarsening of our culture and the loss of respect for life. How can a supposedly modern and enlightened society turn its back on the weakest and most innocent among us and approve of their destruction without a concomitant coarsening of its attitude toward ALL life?

Ronald Reagan wrote a wonderful essay about this 40 years ago. Sadly, it fell on deaf ears, as the culture ever since has just become progressively worse with regard to respecting the sanctity of human life.

Ronald Reagan's pro-life tract, penned for "The Human Life Review", unsolicited -- Spring 1983

Abortion and the Conscience of the Nation: https://bit.ly/3H8tpC7

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at April 09, 2023 12:22 PM (Do5/p)

37 She's transitioned from stupid to stupid and evil.

Posted by: N. Lurker at April 09, 2023 12:12 PM (eGTCV)

Being in DC has definitely been her ruin. She would have been better off as an ignorant, stupid bartender.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at April 09, 2023 12:22 PM (Mzdiz)

38 19 12 I mean what sort of person would find the premise of the Golden Rule objectionable?
Posted by: Muldoon at April 09, 2023 12:11 PM (ykeLU)

the person who doesn't have the Gold but wants it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 09, 2023 12:13 PM (r46W7)

Would you buy a used car from a hard-core Leftist? How many lies about its history and condition would you be told? We get a continuous stream of propaganda and lies from people in power who have no morals or scruples. Who shamelessly use religion as a bludgeon against their political enemies while not believing in any higher being-based religion.

Posted by: Gref at April 09, 2023 12:23 PM (AMIL/)

39 Vic to my knowledge is just MIA, he has dropped off and popped back up so at least have hope it's not worst

Posted by: Skip at April 09, 2023 12:23 PM (xhxe8)

40 Very well said, CBD.

I think the left and and a lot of people in the middle get around loss of respect for life, by focusing on aspects of their own lives that they think are most important. A woman I know who used to be largely against abortion, is now very "pro choice" as "men would do it if they felt a child prevented them from career goals, completing their education, or enjoying their sex lives". Now she's 73, and possibly looking back in anger at what she could have accomplished had she not married right out of college. She points to the accomplishments of her daughters, neither of whom have children, and one who is 46 and unmarried. They would not have been a professor or an entrepreneur if they had raised a child.

Naturally, all the evidence is against her argument as plenty of women who furthered their educations and run businesses are mothers, and some did not choose the timing of their births. The parenthood was not "planned", but their child was not an impediment.

I think a lot of older women who are so invested in abortion are looking at what they wish they had accomplished and cannot blame themselves.

Posted by: CN at April 09, 2023 12:23 PM (Zzbjj)

41 So I was looking at some threads I missed the last few days and saw a comment about Vic. Have we lost Vic?
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench

I think he commented on one of yisterday's threads,

Posted by: JT at April 09, 2023 12:23 PM (T4tVD)

42 . In many places it's still hereditary where there is "individual" ownership verses a feudal/state system still in place.
Posted by: lin-duh at April 09, 2023 12:15 PM (UUBmN)

How much of England does "The Firm" own, either as the Crown, by feudal entitlement, or in the equivalent of fee simple?

Posted by: Fox2! at April 09, 2023 12:24 PM (BPbaR)

43 It's whip o'clock baby!

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at April 09, 2023 12:19 PM (Wy1BU)

LOL!

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at April 09, 2023 12:24 PM (Mzdiz)

44 In America, the only people who don't accept Judeo Christian philosophy appear to be the Judeos.

Posted by: Oschisms at April 09, 2023 12:16 PM (0A5+1)

Rubbish on roids

Posted by: CN at April 09, 2023 12:25 PM (Zzbjj)

45 Someone who did nothing but beg and steal from everyone he knew, treated everyone contempt wouldn't like the Golden Rule just like Karl Marx did

Posted by: Skip at April 09, 2023 12:25 PM (xhxe8)

46 JT do you think so? Didn't see it and was on most all day

Posted by: Skip at April 09, 2023 12:26 PM (xhxe8)

47 I think he commented on one of yisterday's threads,
Posted by: JT at April 09, 2023 12:23 PM (T4tVD)

Oh good. Maybe he took a Lenten break, or is just busy with other things.

Posted by: CN at April 09, 2023 12:26 PM (Zzbjj)

48 "Traditionalist: "Do unto others as you would have others do unto you."
Post modernist: "You're not the boss of me!"
Posted by: Muldoon

Queer Gnosticism: "Free your minds from this silly notion of male/female, and you shall be as gods".

Posted by: illiniwek at April 09, 2023 12:26 PM (Cus5s)

49 We're heading towards another Dark Ages.

Reason, debate, and logic are being ignored. Mob rules are spreading at an alarming rate and being encouraged by national leaders.

And then you add an increasingly aggressive China. We are in very serious trouble.

Posted by: Last Days of the Republic at April 09, 2023 12:17 PM (9IO4j)
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Indeed. As I've pointed out a number of times previously (sorry), in response to "The New Left" of the late 60's & early 70's, Ayn Rand predicted their objective in a collection of essays eventually published as "The Return of the Primitive: The Anti-Industrial Revolution."

I haven't been calling it a Death Cult for nothing since then ...

AND Excellent Post on this Easter Sunday, CBD. Thanks!

Posted by: ShainS -- The Abolition of The West is from Men Without Chests at April 09, 2023 12:27 PM (vd5FN)

50 45 Someone who did nothing but beg and steal from everyone he knew, treated everyone contempt wouldn't like the Golden Rule just like Karl Marx did
Posted by: Skip at April 09, 2023 12:25 PM (xhxe

While his family went hungry, what a guy (spits)

Posted by: CN at April 09, 2023 12:27 PM (Zzbjj)

51 Queer Gnosticism: "Free your minds from this silly notion of male/female, and you shall be as gods".
Posted by: illiniwek at April 09, 2023 12:26 PM (Cus5s)

Wasn't there some snake who made this promise to a woman?

Posted by: CN at April 09, 2023 12:28 PM (Zzbjj)

52 JT do you think so? Didn't see it and was on most all day
Posted by: Skip

Yeah; after someone posted "Vic is Dead" he came on and said he didn't see anything VNN worthy.

Posted by: JT at April 09, 2023 12:28 PM (T4tVD)

53 Yes, there is a philosophical argument against abortion that can be made without explicit reference to theology. But they are intertwined, and it would be difficult to separate them. Nor should we. Respect for religious teachings is part and parcel of most of our political philosophy, and the founders of our great nation were in the main religious men who relied on religious teaching for their moral guides.

The issue with this strategy is that the majority of the country is no longer religious (as far as the religions of Christianity and Judaism... plenty are religious as far as wokism, BLM, DIE, ESG, "climate change" and gender dysphoria cults).

So appealing to someone based on Christianity or Judaism will sadly not resonate with the majority of people in the country anymore. Especially Millennial and Gen-Z generations.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at April 09, 2023 12:28 PM (Do5/p)

54 Someone who did nothing but beg and steal from everyone he knew, treated everyone contempt wouldn't like the Golden Rule just like Karl Marx did
Posted by: Skip at April 09, 2023 12:25 PM (xhxe

While his family went hungry, what a guy (spits)
Posted by: CN at April 09, 2023 12:27 PM (Zzbjj)

Barky's brother lives in a rundown hut in Africa.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at April 09, 2023 12:29 PM (BdMk6)

55 Reason, debate, and logic are being ignored. Mob rules are spreading at an alarming rate and being encouraged by national leaders.

And then you add an increasingly aggressive China. We are in very serious trouble.

Posted by: Last Days of the Republic at April 09, 2023 12:17 PM (9IO4j)

Reason, debate, logic, and for that matter, history aren't really being taught much. I suspect that's on purpose with a political rationale.

Posted by: CN at April 09, 2023 12:30 PM (Zzbjj)

56 In America, the only people who don't accept Judeo Christian philosophy appear to be the Judeos.
Posted by: Oschisms at April 09, 2023 12:16 PM (0A5+1)
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Because there are only JINOs, no CINO, right, doofus?

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at April 09, 2023 12:30 PM (iWOgL)

57 If the left is successful in overthrowing Western culture exactly what do they think comes next? Screaming "math is racist" or "physics is white patriarchy" will produce nothing but decay, collapse and chaos. The "communism just hasn't been tried right yet crowd are ignorant and delusional

Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 09, 2023 12:31 PM (386ly)

58 "Passover was Thursday that week." Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse

right, so the Passover lamb is prepared ("crucified") the day before Passover.

Posted by: illiniwek at April 09, 2023 12:31 PM (Cus5s)

59 "The feds still own 90% of places like Nevada because no one else wanted that worthless dirt"

Ehem..
They still own it because it's worth a shitton.
Which is why we are quietly and quickly being burried under a mountain of red tape with monuments and mil bases.
You could still homestead here in the 70's and 80's when my family moved here. I wish I had.

Posted by: Reforger at April 09, 2023 12:31 PM (JqiVl)

60 Because there are only JINOs, no CINO, right, doofus?
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey,

There's only one Dino.

Posted by: JT at April 09, 2023 12:32 PM (T4tVD)

61 So appealing to someone based on Christianity or Judaism will sadly not resonate with the majority of people in the country anymore. Especially Millennial and Gen-Z generations.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at April 09, 2023 12:28 PM (Do5/p)

Well many congregations increasingly embrace anger, politics, and self-love, and ignore their tenets.

Posted by: CN at April 09, 2023 12:32 PM (Zzbjj)

62 Domenikos Theotokopoulis

Also known as el Greco.

Posted by: creeper at April 09, 2023 12:34 PM (cTCuP)

63 I think a lot of older women who are so invested in abortion are looking at what they wish they had accomplished and cannot blame themselves.
Posted by: CN at April 09, 2023 12:23 PM (Zzbjj)

So they have chosen to wallow in jealousy and false pride, rather than accept the blessings of their lives with humility and gratitude. And they surround themselves with others who also have chosen to bathe themselves in endless self pity over their delusional lost dreams.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 09, 2023 12:34 PM (r46W7)

64 57 If the left is successful in overthrowing Western culture exactly what do they think comes next?

..

A Soviet Union or North Korean existence.

Yes, they will build camps.

Posted by: Last Days of the Republic at April 09, 2023 12:35 PM (9IO4j)

65 If the left is successful in overthrowing Western culture exactly what do they think comes next? Screaming "math is racist" or "physics is white patriarchy" will produce nothing but decay, collapse and chaos. The "communism just hasn't been tried right yet crowd are ignorant and delusional
Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 09, 2023 12:31 PM (386ly)

I think it goes further than communism. They want a Morlock/eloi kingdom

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at April 09, 2023 12:36 PM (BdMk6)

66 Found this fairly brief description of the painting at the website of the Spanish National Art Museum -- Prado Museum -- in Madrid where it's located:

1597 - 1600. Oil on canvas.
Room 009B

"At the top, a nude Christ bears a white banner in his left hand, symbolizing triumph over death. His purple robe signifies sacrifice and martyrdom, while his rhomboidal halo echoes the Byzantine tradition. The soldiers that guard the sepulcher appear surprised and confused by the event, except for one who is asleep. The use of scorcio gives these figures a high degree of dynamism. The borders of this work show the canvas´s priming, where the artist tested his colors and removed the overly thick hairs from his brushes. This painting, signed with Greek letters on the lower edge off the canvas, belonged to the main altarpiece - of the church of the School College of María of Aragón, as were other works at the Prado Museum."

Posted by: ShainS -- The Abolition of The West is from Men Without Chests at April 09, 2023 12:37 PM (vd5FN)

67 54 Someone who did nothing but beg and steal from everyone he knew, treated everyone contempt wouldn't like the Golden Rule just like Karl Marx did
Posted by: Skip at April 09, 2023 12:25 PM (xhxe

reposted from yesterday:

Yes. I know you had just finished reading Kangor's The Devil and Karl Marx. After reading that book, I realized that Communism is an anti-Christian religion. It is essentially a Christian heresy that emphasizes material objects (i.e., creatures) rather than the Creator. It purports to accomplish a mathematical sameness of outcome to "help the poor" but requires the commission of the Sins of Pride, Envy, Anger and Theft.

Kangor's book really helps make it clear that this is a spiritual conflict, rather than a dispute between economic models. We have some 150 years of complete failure of Communist economies wherever attempted, but the Communists are not amenable to learning. (The Communists try to link to the early Christians but those were religious communities with an emphasis on the salvation of souls. There is no agape' in Communism.)
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at April 08, 2023 09:10 AM (pJWtt)

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 09, 2023 12:38 PM (r46W7)

68 Interesting times we live in. We are always worried about the political cost of protecting life, the most important right we have, while the left is busy murdering the unborn and mutilating children with glee and having the balls to call us fascists.

Maybe, just spitballing here, we should tell them to go fuck themselves and double down on doing what is right. Who knows, it just might work.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 09, 2023 12:39 PM (ZLI7S)

69 I think it goes further than communism. They want a Morlock/eloi kingdom

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons

Oh great. Morlock recipes in the Food Thread !

Posted by: JT at April 09, 2023 12:40 PM (T4tVD)

70 There's only one Dino.

What does Fred Flintstone's pet have to do with Judeo-Christian Culture?

Posted by: Ol' Codger at April 09, 2023 12:40 PM (Nn3xT)

71 Happy Easter, maroons.

Posted by: flounder at April 09, 2023 12:40 PM (pHIVS)

72 The shift came in America when "morality" went from "knowing right from wrong" to "that which keeps me from having fun."

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at April 09, 2023 12:40 PM (CHHv1)

73 So they have chosen to wallow in jealousy and false pride, rather than accept the blessings of their lives with humility and gratitude. And they surround themselves with others who also have chosen to bathe themselves in endless self pity over their delusional lost dreams.
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 09, 2023 12:34 PM (r46W7)

Pretty much. But the biggest part is not that their original goals were grand or even educational, they weren't. And reminding them of what they said they wanted "back then" is never appreciated, nor is pointing to a contemporary who did what they now they say they wanted to do but were stopped. It's anger with their own choices, but twisted to make it look as if they had no choices.

Posted by: CN at April 09, 2023 12:40 PM (Zzbjj)

74 Oh great. Morlock recipes in the Food Thread !
Posted by: JT at April 09, 2023 12:40 PM (T4tVD)

I've got some tasty ideas.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at April 09, 2023 12:41 PM (BdMk6)

75 20 Someone brought up how important actual ownership of land/property is and how it is actually a unique thing in most of the world for individuals to own it. But taxes kill the actual true ownership of said land/property. Still we are unique in that all you need is money to "own" property. In many places it's still hereditary where there is "individual" ownership verses a feudal/state system still in place.
Posted by: lin-duh at April 09, 2023 12:15 PM (UUBmN)

This is one of the reasons why Indian reservations are such shitholes. The people don't own shit, either the federal government owns it or the tribal nation owns it.

Posted by: I have some reservations about this land scheme at April 09, 2023 12:43 PM (V6LRK)

76 "Wasn't there some snake who made this promise to a woman?" Posted by: CN

Eating of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil ... not sure if that was exactly denying male female. But trees were sometimes phallic symbolism, so perhaps sex with herself instead of Adam could be along those lines, idk.

But certainly the current anti-Christian and anti-family religion if the Woke tranny insanity being pushed onto children in public schools (and other places) is actually a very "You shall be gods" type religion.

That "Queer Gnosticism" link form the book thread goes into great detail on how poisonous and addictive it is.
https://tinyurl.com/y9dwrece

Posted by: illiniwek at April 09, 2023 12:43 PM (Cus5s)

77 Oh great. Morlock recipes in the Food Thread !
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A Modest Proposal.

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 09, 2023 12:43 PM (MIKMs)

78 Maybe, just spitballing here, we should tell them to go fuck themselves and double down on doing what is right. Who knows, it just might work.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 09, 2023 12:39 PM (ZLI7S)

I think so, and I think that's why they buried the "manifesto" of the Nashville mass murderer. Modern Dr Frankensteins have created a group that will be rejected, and the rejected lash out in the wrong direction. They attack those who they think should accept the new creation, rather than the liars who told them that the mutilations would make them what they cannot be.

Posted by: CN at April 09, 2023 12:44 PM (Zzbjj)

79 Unreal the hatred being spewed by people as I took a quick glance through social media this morning. I don’t see Christians accosting non believers out in the streets or attacking them on social media. There is nothing more preachy and intolerant than a member of the religion of militant Atheism these days. I can handle a Jehovah Witness beating on my door waking me up on any Sunday than tolerating one minute of these militant assholes always going out of their way to mock and belittle religious folk.
One of the biggest mistakes I’ve made is accepting invitations to Right to Life marches and having to listen to some of these pricks hurl invective saying the most f’d up shit at marchers. I left the forgiveness to the more devout amongst the marchers and kicked the shit out of three of them bastards shouting their BS. Got kicked out of the March and was not invited to future Right to Life marches.
Under their breath though a few of the fellow marchers praised me for what I did. It felt good.

Happy Resurrection Day!

Posted by: JROD at April 09, 2023 12:44 PM (IlL6s)

80 We loved Dino, too!

Posted by: Sinclair Oil Co. at April 09, 2023 12:44 PM (Nn3xT)

81 Does Texas allow for recalling state reps?
2 dozen betray their constituents and side with public school teachers unions.

A monumental betrayal.

Posted by: Last Days of the Republic at April 09, 2023 12:45 PM (9IO4j)

82
Pretty much. But the biggest part is not that their original goals were grand or even educational, they weren't. And reminding them of what they said they wanted "back then" is never appreciated, nor is pointing to a contemporary who did what they now they say they wanted to do but were stopped. It's anger with their own choices, but twisted to make it look as if they had no choices.
Posted by: CN at April 09, 2023 12:40 PM (Zzbjj)

An unending and bitter regret for the past is one of the greatest and most self destructive delusions that a person can fall into it. A healthy soul accepts that the past is the past, both the good parts and the bad, and moves on with a focus on what is to come. Dreaming of what might have been is an endless pit of darkness.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 09, 2023 12:45 PM (r46W7)

83 We loved Dino, too!
Posted by: Sinclair Oil Co. at April 09, 2023 12:44 PM (Nn3xT)
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Wow! Childhood memories!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at April 09, 2023 12:47 PM (iWOgL)

84 I think it goes further than communism. They want a Morlock/eloi kingdom

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons

They want servants, serfs, and slaves. The wealthy elite will rule over all. They will enjoy all the sin and debauchery they want and anyone who is not of the elite will be one of those three classes.
Servants have decent education and manners. They have the right skin color and can be seen in public. Household help, teachers, cops, firefighters, etc.
Serfs aren't as educated, rough manners, slightly darker skin tone. They work on farms and ranches or in factories. Not seen by the elites.
Slaves are uneducated and have the darkest skin. They are forced to work day and night in the most dangerous jobs. The elites don't admit these people exist because they don't consider them to be people.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at April 09, 2023 12:47 PM (Wy1BU)

85 Evil exists and has always been working, working, working to undo what God has created.

The Romans, the French hell even the Canadians have played their parts to bring hell on earth but all will fail in the end.

Recognize evil when you see it and remain blessed and never vote democrat.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 09, 2023 12:47 PM (R/m4+)

86 Nothing "Woke" about China
The Chinese are laughing their asses off at us and waiting to pounce

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 09, 2023 12:48 PM (Irn0L)

87 The left assures us that abortion is life affirming healthcare.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 09, 2023 12:50 PM (63Dwl)

88 81 Does Texas allow for recalling state reps?
2 dozen betray their constituents and side with public school teachers unions.

A monumental betrayal.
Posted by: Last Days of the Republic at April 09, 2023 12:45 PM (9IO4j)

a few local bodies allow recall in their charters, but for State level officials, no. It doesn't matter - this legislative session ends on May 29 and then all of them go home until Jan. 2025, after new elections.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 09, 2023 12:50 PM (r46W7)

89 82. Yep, and I think the support for abortion on the part of older women is at least partially rooted in regret, and misplaced blame. Now the daughters of the woman I used as an example, haven't shared their regrets with me. One of them uses RBG as an icon.

Posted by: CN at April 09, 2023 12:50 PM (Zzbjj)

90 Read yesterday or Friday, a Oregon widow with 5 children is trying to adopt a siblings children and is being denied due to her Christian belief in not having a LGBQXYZ lifestyle.
Sundowner is probably about to use his pen to force public schools to accept Trannies in girls sports or face being cut off of government funds.
Just in case you might think a Religious war isn't happening.

Posted by: Skip at April 09, 2023 12:51 PM (xhxe8)

91 This is one of the reasons why Indian reservations are such shitholes. The people don't own shit, either the federal government owns it or the tribal nation owns it.
Posted by: I have some reservations about this land scheme at April 09, 2023 12:43 PM (V6LRK)

It's the way tribes governed when they were "running free" before the blue-eyed devils came. They didn't own shit and were under the whims of their chiefs.

It's why they remained primitive. The indian nations are much like muslims in their stubbornness to change.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at April 09, 2023 12:51 PM (BdMk6)

92 Passover was Thursday, but the day started at sundown the prior day, so Wed. The Last supper was Wed night, Jesus was arrested that night then taken to the Pharisees Thurs and on to Pilate. He was cricified friday morning, died by the afternoon and had to be taken off the cross and put in the tomb before the passover sabbath started friday at sundown. The Pharisees did not want bodies on the cross on sabbath. That is why they asked the romans to break the legs of the crucified, but when they got to Jesus, he looked dead already, prompting the stabbing. It was unusual to have died so quickly, crucifixion usually took a couple days.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 09, 2023 12:51 PM (R8uWY)

93 even the Canadians have played their parts to bring hell on earth but all will fail in the end."

but enough about hockey...

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 09, 2023 12:51 PM (r46W7)

94 Abortion kills human beings, which are made in the image of God. It is the Left’s most cherished way to rebel against him.

Posted by: Eternity Matters at April 09, 2023 12:52 PM (MTm8X)

95 >>I think so, and I think that's why they buried the "manifesto" of the Nashville mass murderer. Modern Dr Frankensteins have created a group that will be rejected, and the rejected lash out in the wrong direction. They attack those who they think should accept the new creation, rather than the liars who told them that the mutilations would make them what they cannot be.

What they do is attack and they never apologize. If one issue dies or becomes irrelevant because their lies can't cover it anymore they just move on to the next. And we constantly seem to feel the need to defend our positions instead of attacking.

We wait for someone like Riley Gaines or Judge Kacsmaryk to stand up and state the truth, he also says transgenderism is a mental illness by the by, and then brace for blowback.

I like Judge Ho's remedy. You want to act like insane children? Ok. I won't hire any of you. Ever. Got awful quiet in Stanford after that.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 09, 2023 12:52 PM (ZLI7S)

96 One more analysis of the painting from ArtsDot.com (1 of 2):

"Probably painted for the Colegio de Doña Maria, Madrid. It is of the same size and shape as the Pentecost, to which it was almost certainly a pair. The place of these two paintings in the chapel is more difficult to decide. The Resurrection was almost certainly on the left and the Pentecost on the right, because of their relationship in meaning with the Nativity and the Baptism, respectively. If they were placed above these two paintings, the narrower format would correspond with the upper range of paintings. This and the Pentecost would have been the last of the paintings executed for the Colegio. Only one other painting of the subject by El Greco is known, that for Santo Domingo el Antiguo. This painting and the Adoration of the Shepherds are higher in proportion to their width than the corresponding paintings in Santo Domingo el Antiguo. Christ is shown in a blaze of glory, striding through the air and holding the white banner of victory over death ..."

Posted by: ShainS -- The Abolition of The West is from Men Without Chests at April 09, 2023 12:53 PM (vd5FN)

97 Dreaming of what might have been is an endless pit of darkness.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 09, 2023 12:45 PM (r46W7)

I coulda' been a contenda'.

Posted by: BignJames at April 09, 2023 12:53 PM (AwYPR)

98 I'm gonna go seize the day.

Have a Great Easter Horde !

Posted by: JT at April 09, 2023 12:53 PM (T4tVD)

99 One more analysis of the painting from ArtsDot.com (2 of 2):

"... The soldiers who had been placed at the tomb to guard it scatter convulsively. Two of them cover their eyes, shielding themselves from the radiance, and two others raise one hand in a gesture of acknowledgement of the supernatural importance of the event. Another wearing a helmet decorated with brilliantly coloured plumes, rests his cheek on his hand - the traditional pose of melancholy - still unaware of Christ's resurrection. El Greco's skill in creating dramatically foreshortened figures is clamorously apparent in the soldier wearing a yellow cuirass sprawled in the foreground and in the adjacent soldier in green. By excluding any visual reference to the tomb or to landscape, El Greco removed the scene from the realm of history, he articulated its universal significance through the dynamism of nine figures that make up the composition and the intensity of the light and colours. The painting (275 x 127 cm) is in the collection of the Museo del Prado, Madrid."

Image of his Pentecost: https://tinyurl.com/m2jr8fpj

Posted by: ShainS -- The Abolition of The West is from Men Without Chests at April 09, 2023 12:54 PM (vd5FN)

100 Speaking of lefties not comprehending the evil and consequences of abortion...

I saw a lefty post recently about how she saw so many more handicapped people around during her recent trip to Iceland, and how it was they had socialized healthcare, government forced ADA-equivalent access standards, etc. I was reminded of an article I read talking about how Iceland was "cured" of Down's Syndrome, because all affected babies had been aborted.

How long before all those handicapped people with congenital disabilities go away for similar reasons?

Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison at April 09, 2023 12:56 PM (tmtGk)

101 I guess I'll go watch some more disaster documentaries on YouTube.

See y'all tomorrow.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at April 09, 2023 12:58 PM (BdMk6)

102 You can't abort Down Syndrome away. That isn't how it works. But lefties gonna left.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 09, 2023 12:58 PM (R8uWY)

103
Just got back from Easter Mass at my TLM parish. The place was packed. Lots of young families with 4, 5 or 6 kids. I gave up my seat to a pregnant lady (of course) and stood in the back. Who does the future belong to?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 09, 2023 01:00 PM (MoZTd)

104 102 You can't abort Down Syndrome away. That isn't how it works. But lefties gonna left.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 09, 2023 12:58 PM

Not in such a way that no babies will have it, but if you test all babies and abort the ones with Down's, you'd eliminate it from your society/nation.

Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison at April 09, 2023 01:04 PM (tmtGk)

105 Can we get rid of "Paul"?

Posted by: CN at April 09, 2023 01:04 PM (Zzbjj)

106 107 Can we get rid of "Paul"?
Posted by: CN at April 09, 2023 01:04 PM (Zzbjj)

yeah that wasn't just stupid it was intentionally offensive and insulting.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 09, 2023 01:05 PM (r46W7)

107 104
Just got back from Easter Mass at my TLM parish. The place was packed. Lots of young families with 4, 5 or 6 kids. I gave up my seat to a pregnant lady (of course) and stood in the back. Who does the future belong to?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 09, 2023 01:00 PM

I know! I know!

Posted by: Gender queer trans fluid SJW elementary school teacher salivating at the idea of grooming your innoc at April 09, 2023 01:06 PM (tmtGk)

108 Paul just learned that from ChatGPT

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 09, 2023 01:06 PM (R8uWY)

109 "Passover was Thursday, but the day started at sundown the prior day, so Wed. The Last supper was Wed night, Jesus was arrested that night then taken to the Pharisees Thurs and on to Pilate." Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy

the last supper was not on Passover (including Wednesday evening, the start of Passover). And Passover is a sabbath day. Jesus Christ was our Passover lamb, the sacrificed lamb of God. He could not be alive for Passover.

"A vital text proving that there were two Sabbaths in that week has been obscured by almost every translation into English. Only Ferrar Fenton's version has this point correct.

Turn to Matthew 28:1. In the common versions it says, "In the end of the Sabbath," or more correctly, "after the Sabbath." Notice that both of these renderings use the singular -- Sabbath. But in the original Greek the word is in the PLURAL. Fenton renders it correctly by saying, "After the SABBATHS," ... "The Greek original is in the plural, 'Sabbaths'."

so JC was raised at sunset on (Western) Saturday night.

a lot more here for those interested.
https://tinyurl.com/yckxcxvh

Posted by: illiniwek at April 09, 2023 01:06 PM (Cus5s)

110
I know! I know!

Posted by: Gender queer trans fluid SJW elementary school teacher salivating at the idea of grooming your innoc at April 09, 2023 01:06 PM (tmtGk)

___________

Dollars to donuts many of those kids are homeschooled.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 09, 2023 01:07 PM (MoZTd)

111 Who does the future belong to?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 09, 2023 01:00 PM (MoZT

conservative religious people and mexicans. who overlap in many cases.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 09, 2023 01:08 PM (r46W7)

112 https://compactmag.com/article/
why-the-great-reset-is-not-socialism

Long read, interesting

Posted by: Skip at April 09, 2023 01:09 PM (xhxe8)

113 So I was looking at some threads I missed the last few days and saw a comment about Vic. Have we lost Vic?
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at April 09, 2023 12:21 PM (Wy1BU)

Unless proven otherwise, I assuming the post "reporting" Vic's "death" to be troll droppings.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 09, 2023 01:09 PM (tkR6S)

114 "Image of his Pentecost"

as with the last supper, they knew to all face one direction for the photo.

Posted by: illiniwek at April 09, 2023 01:11 PM (Cus5s)

115 I like Maugham at his best, and even at his weaker moments.

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Reminds me of some of the lyrics from one of my favorite pop albums, Al Stewart's Life Between the Wars.

The tropic sun is sticky and warm
And it bakes the head of Somerset Maugham
Who is writing a scene
Of life between the wars

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 09, 2023 01:14 PM (FVME7)

116 Who does the future belong to?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

Elon Musk, apparently.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 09, 2023 01:16 PM (FVME7)

117 Not in such a way that no babies will have it, but if you test all babies and abort the ones with Down's, you'd eliminate it from your society/nation.
Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison at April 09, 2023 01:04 PM (tmtGk)

It would have to be an ongoing policy. Downs is not a genetic trait.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 09, 2023 01:16 PM (tkR6S)

118 Unless proven otherwise, I assuming the post "reporting" Vic's "death" to be troll droppings.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 09, 2023 01:09 PM (tkR6S)

at the very least, greatly exaggerated.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 09, 2023 01:16 PM (r46W7)

119 So I was looking at some threads I missed the last few days and saw a comment about Vic. Have we lost Vic?
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at April 09, 2023 12:21 PM (Wy1BU)

Unless proven otherwise, I assuming the post "reporting" Vic's "death" to be troll droppings.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at

That is how I understand it.

Posted by: That Northern skulker at April 09, 2023 01:17 PM (eGTCV)

120 One of last Bad Blue had how Down Syndrome people were being used in this Draq Queen shows

Posted by: Skip at April 09, 2023 01:18 PM (xhxe8)

121 Late to the party, but Amen Tom Servo at 21. The wailing and gnashing of teeth over Wisconsin and the mere thought of retreating is revolting. Bring. It. On.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at April 09, 2023 01:18 PM (oWBc3)

122 I'm still taken by the article by VDH that discusses (if I got it right) the success of western civ due to meritocracy. There is a lot in that I think.
If you allow individuals to succeed, they will.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 09, 2023 01:20 PM (anj39)

123 ...the success of western civ due to meritocracy...

Posted by: Diogenes at April 09, 2023 01:20 PM (anj39)

Recognition of the individual as the primary unit of society.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 09, 2023 01:21 PM (mMC7/)

124 AOC is a poor man's Pasha Antipov.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at April 09, 2023 01:21 PM (oWBc3)

125 Who does the future belong to?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 09, 2023 01:00 PM (MoZT

The ones that show up.

Posted by: BignJames at April 09, 2023 01:22 PM (AwYPR)

126 Alison Krause for the win, "I know who holds the future and I know who holds my hand."

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at April 09, 2023 01:23 PM (oWBc3)

127 Unless proven otherwise, I assuming the post "reporting" Vic's "death" to be troll droppings.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 09, 2023 01:09 PM (tkR6S)

at the very least, greatly exaggerated.
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 09, 2023 01:16 PM (r46W7)

The man survived the Plague of Justinian. I'm not worried.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at April 09, 2023 01:24 PM (yQpMk)

128 Recognition of the individual as the primary unit of society.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 09, 2023 01:21 PM (mMC7/)

Yup.
And the best success comes from not making everyone equal, they are not, but in ensuring everyone has an equal opportunity in that society.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 09, 2023 01:25 PM (anj39)

129 sometime in the near future, AOC will run for mayor of NYC

and of course, she wil win

and use that as a springboard for a hilarious fail of a Presidential campaign

she's too stupid to know that the dim power council doesn't like her much

described by Pelosi as a "glass of water with a "D" on it"

Posted by: REDACTED at April 09, 2023 01:28 PM (us2H3)

130 A bit OT...
Can there be het another excellent example just how disconnected the DoD has become than what they have done by kicking out the Catholic Priests at Walter Reed and replacing them with some contracted secular group...in the week before Easter?
Hey Pentagon! The optics on this are as bad as Afghanis dropping from C-17s flying out of Kabul. What dumbass general signed off on this?

Posted by: Diogenes at April 09, 2023 01:30 PM (anj39)

131 Is the pill in question the so called day after pill or something else? I thought the day-after pill was a good, pragmatic solution to the problem, but I'm a pragmatist so I'm always going to like such things.

Posted by: CppThis at April 09, 2023 01:31 PM (PZvjL)

132 >>Abortion isn't just about the killing of a baby in the womb. It is about the coarsening of our culture and the loss of respect for life. How can a supposedly modern and enlightened society turn its back on the weakest and most innocent among us and approve of their destruction without a concomitant coarsening of its attitude toward ALL life?

It is playing God.
I had the opportunity to abort my son after heart defects were detected on the initial sonogram, made worse when they mentioned some scary potential other issues he might have that include heart defects (e.g. DiGeorge syndrome, a death sentence). It is a terrible burden, deciding whether another being should live or die. I chose not to play God, and it was the best decision!

It's obvious that people taking on this decision has made it infinitely easier to then transition to deciding another's life/death in many other scenarios. As I've gotten older it's become clear that abortion has been an incredibly destructive force on our culture -- Created a culture of Death.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 09, 2023 01:31 PM (EdLEa)

133 Respect for religious teachings is part and parcel of most of our political philosophy, and the founders of our great nation were in the main religious men who relied on religious teaching for their moral guides.
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It's pretty much impossible to make any logically consistent case for God-given Rights if you have no idea Who God is, or what He expects of us, and what limits He would put on them.

Posted by: Methos at April 09, 2023 01:33 PM (kOpft)

134 " kicking out the Catholic Priests at Walter Reed and replacing them with some contracted secular group...in the week before Easter?"

not "disconnected", it was a deliberate assault with a deliberate date set.

Posted by: illiniwek at April 09, 2023 01:33 PM (Cus5s)

135 130 What dumbass general signed off on this?

And what pronouns ?

Posted by: Next2Nothing at April 09, 2023 01:33 PM (tA1/w)

136 There are a lot of people who will be terrified when they find out they are not, in fact, God.

Posted by: That Northern skulker at April 09, 2023 01:34 PM (eGTCV)

137 >>Can there be het another excellent example just how disconnected the DoD has become than what they have done by kicking out the Catholic Priests at Walter Reed and replacing them with some contracted secular group...in the week before Easter?

Wow, they did that?!
The timing indicates it was very intentional, it was more than bad optics: they robbed Christians at Walter Reed of the spiritual leaders at the beginning of Holy Week as an extra FU.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 09, 2023 01:35 PM (EdLEa)

138 Example of many anti-Christian events are not hard to find.

Posted by: Skip at April 09, 2023 01:36 PM (B2csS)

139 >>Example of many anti-Christian events are not hard to find.

There is so much Satanic symbolism in current music lyrics/videos/shows.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 09, 2023 01:38 PM (EdLEa)

140 not "disconnected", it was a deliberate assault with a deliberate date set.
Posted by: illiniwek at April 09, 2023 01:33 PM (Cus5s)

Heh.
I was being nice in my initial comment.
I want to know why?
Were they fired for failure to comply with contract deliverables? Was the contract complete and they didn't win the recompete, so they had to vacate? Or were they just booted on the whim of some DoD bureaucrat and replaced with someone's buddy?
The reporting is woefully inadequate and I suspect the truth is going to be a bucket of cow dung.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 09, 2023 01:39 PM (anj39)

141 I have started to view democrats as rabidly religious jihadis that use their political affiliation as their "religion."

Everything revolves around it. The gay, lesbian and transgender movements. Their stance on gun rights, abortion and crime. Climate change and so on.

Their outlook on all of that (and more) mimics a religious cult but substitutes politics for worship. They've been very effective in spreading their "word" using the various institutions they've infiltrated and suborned.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 09, 2023 01:39 PM (Q4IgG)

142 >>One of last Bad Blue had how Down Syndrome people were being used in this Draq Queen shows

And the trans groomers prey on autistic kids.
Evil.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 09, 2023 01:39 PM (EdLEa)

143 Not in such a way that no babies will have it, but if you test all babies and abort the ones with Down's, you'd eliminate it from your society/nation.
Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison at April 09, 2023 01:04 PM (tmtGk)

I'm Adolf Hitler and I approve this message.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at April 09, 2023 01:41 PM (s12c9)

144 79 There is nothing more preachy and intolerant than a member of the religion of militant Atheism these days. I can handle a Jehovah Witness beating on my door waking me up on any Sunday than tolerating one minute of these militant assholes always going out of their way to mock and belittle religious folk.
Posted by: JROD at April 09, 2023 12:44 PM (IlL6s)

For what it's worth I probably dislike them even more than you do. To paraphrase a bunch of stuff one of my personal role models Freeman Dyson said, they like to twist science into a tool of their religion--and make mo mistake, atheism is as much a religion as any other--which dirties the reputation of those who simply seek empirical knowledge of how the world works.

Posted by: CppThis at April 09, 2023 01:43 PM (PZvjL)

145 Who does the future belong to?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 09, 2023 01:00 PM (MoZT

Me!

Posted by: The Fuhrerjugend singing in the biergarten at April 09, 2023 01:43 PM (V6LRK)

146 >>Modern Dr Frankensteins have created a group that will be rejected, and the rejected lash out in the wrong direction. They attack those who they think should accept the new creation, rather than the liars who told them that the mutilations would make them what they cannot be.

They are created to lash out, the perfect class of permanently aggrieved people for the Dems to use against us:
https://tinyurl.com/5n8n5fty

Posted by: Lizzy at April 09, 2023 01:45 PM (EdLEa)

147 37 >>Can there be het another excellent example just how disconnected the DoD has become than what they have done by kicking out the Catholic Priests at Walter Reed and replacing them with some contracted secular group...in the week before Easter?

Wow, they did that?!
The timing indicates it was very intentional, it was more than bad optics: they robbed Christians at Walter Reed of the spiritual leaders at the beginning of Holy Week as an extra FU.
Posted by: Lizzy at April 09, 2023 01:35 PM (EdLEa

But the Retard in Chief is such a good Catholic!

Posted by: Unpossible! at April 09, 2023 01:47 PM (V6LRK)

148 Their outlook on all of that (and more) mimics a religious cult but substitutes politics for worship. They've been very effective in spreading their "word" using the various institutions they've infiltrated and suborned.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 09, 2023 01:39 PM (Q4IgG)

men and women cannot live with no religious faith. If they abandon any semblance of honest and moral religious faith, they immediately replace it with an imitation that is much, much worse.

and a huge part of of our society today is on that path.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 09, 2023 01:50 PM (r46W7)

149
Wow, they did that?!
The timing indicates it was very intentional, it was more than bad optics: they robbed Christians at Walter Reed of the spiritual leaders at the beginning of Holy Week as an extra FU.
Posted by: Lizzy at April 09, 2023 01:35 PM (EdLEa)

You all "assume" the Military is well organized? We are not. Yes,if we have the weapons and training, in time of war, break the glass and get the fuck out of the way and let us kill and destroy the enemy ( and even then it will take time to shake off the rust and incompetent "leadership"). But in peace time and when the civilians and the pentagon get in the way, we are a total clusterfuck. Trust me on this one

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 09, 2023 01:51 PM (Irn0L)

150 I am now 0 for infinity at having just one beer at a bar.

Posted by: Thesokorus at April 09, 2023 01:52 PM (MUolf)

151 143 I'm Adolf Hitler and I approve this message.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at April 09, 2023 01:41 PM (s12c9)

It's definitely one of those things that sounds really great from a utilitarian standpoint, but immediately falls apart when considering that humans are asshoe to each other on the regular and there's no way it wouldn't end in tyranny and genocide.

One way of looking at the established religions that have been around for a while is as a collection of empirically derived sociological observations--what works and doesn't, over more than a thousand years of very different civilizations--filtered through a lens of spirituality. So it's possible for someone who's not into the spirituality to still look at what they have to say and conclude that there's something of value to be had.

Posted by: CppThis at April 09, 2023 01:53 PM (PZvjL)

152 The mainstream media is mentally and morally dysfunctional enough to believe anything older than they are is obsolete.

Posted by: N. Lurker at April 09, 2023 01:54 PM (eGTCV)

153 There is nothing the DoD is doing that isn't planned and with thought and purpose.

Posted by: Skip at April 09, 2023 01:58 PM (B2csS)

154 Okay, this is funny.

https://tinyurl.com/nttjs9k2

Posted by: Archimedes at April 09, 2023 01:59 PM (eOEVl)

155 Did you all read the article by Robert Spenser about Globohomo's blackmailing of Anheuser-Busch?

The Human Rights Council. They judge companies on "inclusion."

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at April 09, 2023 01:59 PM (5u1+1)

156 There is nothing the DoD is doing that isn't planned and with thought and purpose.
Posted by: Skip at April 09, 2023 01:58 PM (B2csS)

Well yeah some is planned and mostly poorly planned, but some is just by the seat of their pants and more poorly planned

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 09, 2023 02:00 PM (Irn0L)

157 I am now 0 for infinity at having just one beer at a bar.
Posted by: Thesokorus at April 09, 2023 01:52 PM (MUolf)

Hmmmm
Pulls out calculator.
Punches buttons.
Hits division symbol.
Square root.
Minus 1.
Dang! You're ahead of me!

Posted by: Diogenes at April 09, 2023 02:00 PM (anj39)

158 1st at Nood is up

Posted by: Skip at April 09, 2023 02:01 PM (B2csS)

159 They are created to lash out, the perfect class of permanently aggrieved people for the Dems to use against us:
https://tinyurl.com/5n8n5fty
Posted by: Lizzy at April 09, 2023 01:45 PM (EdLEa)

The link went to a tweet on Jacinda Adern. But the trannies will be permanently aggrieved. Not for one second do I believe that the doctors creating girls with the hideous zipper scars and ugly addadicktomees expect those girls to be accepted as men, nor do I believe that the docs believe that mutilated men will be accepted as women. They absolutely know that this will fail. I wonder how much prep time is expended on convincing them that they will be accepted, and how much is spent telling them that they won't be accepted as a different sex, which is what many of them are seeking.

Years ago the Inspector Lewis series did an episode on the emotional effects of this surgery. I'm sure they'd never make it today.

Posted by: CN at April 09, 2023 02:02 PM (Zzbjj)

160 One wonders if perhaps sometime in the distant past there was a kingdom who did something like eugenics, it all turned out very Hitlerian and self destructive, and that eventually got baked into the Judeo-Christian tradition as sanctity of life. But the Men Of Reason(tm) knew better, of course, so much of the 20th century was lost to a collectivist bad acid trip. Something something hubris and nemesis.

Posted by: CppThis at April 09, 2023 02:03 PM (PZvjL)

161 My friend and neighbor bought a car with a bumper sticker on it. Gold bars on a blue background.

I had tell him "they are not lieutenant's bars."

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at April 09, 2023 02:04 PM (5u1+1)

162 >>There is nothing the DoD is doing that isn't planned and with thought and purpose.

I don't think they planned to have top secret documents about the Ukraine war and China leak.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 09, 2023 02:07 PM (ZLI7S)

163 I did not know that so many people wore Spandex one piece triathalon suits in that time.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at April 09, 2023 02:29 PM (YXHzG)

164 The smell of broiling delights coming from kitchen is driving me mad.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at April 09, 2023 02:52 PM (yQpMk)

165 dammit

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at April 09, 2023 02:53 PM (yQpMk)

166 Murdering children, including those unborn, ought to be repulsive and detestable. The fact that so many so-called "Americans" think it's okay is repulsive and detestable to me.

Posted by: setnaffa at April 09, 2023 04:27 PM (BdSXF)

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