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The Rise of the One Party State

A couple of weeks ago, I linked Jacob Seigel's magisterial essay on the "disinformation" pretext to empower the Ruling Class to rule in defiance of the desires of the people.


XI. The New One-Party State

In February 2021, a long article in Time magazine by journalist Molly Ball celebrated the "Shadow Campaign That Saved the 2020 Election." Biden's victory, wrote Ball, was the result of a "conspiracy unfolding behind the scenes" that drew together "a vast, cross-partisan campaign to protect the election" in an "extraordinary shadow effort." Among the many accomplishments of the heroic conspirators, Ball notes, they "successfully pressured social media companies to take a harder line against disinformation and used data-driven strategies to fight viral smears." It is an incredible article, like an entry from the crime blotter that somehow got slipped into the society pages, a paean to the saviors of democracy that describes in detail how they dismembered it.

Not so long ago, talk of a "deep state" was enough to mark a person as a dangerous conspiracy theorist to be summarily flagged for monitoring and censorship. But language and attitudes evolve, and today the term has been cheekily reappropriated by supporters of the deep state. For instance, a new book, American Resistance, by neoliberal national security analyst David Rothkopf, is subtitled The Inside Story of How the Deep State Saved the Nation.

The deep state refers to the power wielded by unelected government functionaries and their paragovernmental adjuncts who have administrative power to override the official, legal procedures of a government. But a ruling class describes a social group whose members are bound together by something deeper than institutional position: their shared values and instincts. While the term is often used loosely and sometimes as a pejorative rather than a descriptive label, in fact the American ruling class can be simply and straightforwardly defined.

Two criteria define membership in the ruling class. First, as Michael Lind has written, it is made up of people who belong to a "homogeneous national oligarchy, with the same accent, manners, values, and educational backgrounds from Boston to Austin and San Francisco to New York and Atlanta." America has always had regional elites; what is unique about the present is the consolidation of a single, national ruling class.

Second, to be a member of the ruling class is to believe that only other members of your class can be allowed to lead the country. That is to say, members of the ruling class refuse to submit to the authority of anyone outside the group, whom they disqualify from eligibility by casting them as in some way illegitimate.



Faced with an external threat in the form of Trumpism, the natural cohesion and self-organizing dynamics of the social class were fortified by new top-down structures of coordination that were the goal and the result of Obama's national mobilization. In the run-up to the 2020 election, according to reporting by Lee Fang and Ken Klippenstein for The Intercept, "tech companies including Twitter, Facebook, Reddit, Discord, Wikipedia, Microsoft, LinkedIn, and Verizon Media met on a monthly basis with the FBI, CISA, and other government representatives ... to discuss how firms would handle misinformation during the election."

Historian Angelo Codevilla, who popularized the concept of an American "ruling class" in a 2010 essay and then became its primary chronicler, saw the new, national aristocracy as an outgrowth of the opaque power acquired by the U.S. security agencies. "The bipartisan ruling class that grew in the Cold War, who imagined themselves and who managed to be regarded as entitled by expertise to conduct America's business of war and peace, protected its status against a public from which it continued to diverge by translating the commonsense business of war and peace into a private, pseudo-technical language impenetrable to the uninitiated," he wrote in his 2014 book, To Make and Keep Peace Among Ourselves and with All Nations.

What do the members of the ruling class believe? They believe, I argue, "in informational and management solutions to existential problems" and in their "own provi­dential destiny and that of people like them to rule, regardless of their failures." As a class, their highest principle is that they alone can wield power. If any other group were to rule, all progress and hope would be lost, and the dark forces of fascism and barbarism would at once sweep back over the earth. While technically an opposition party is still permitted to exist in the United States, the last time it attempted to govern nationally, it was subjected to a yearslong coup. In effect, any challenge to the authority of the ruling party, which represents the interests of the ruling class, is depicted as an existential threat to civilization.

An admirably direct articulation of this outlook was provided recently by famous atheist Sam Harris. Throughout the 2010s, Harris' higher-level rationalism made him a star on YouTube, where thousands of videos showcased him "owning" and "pwning" religious opponents in debates. Then Trump arrived. Harris, like so many others who saw in the former president a threat to all that was good in the world, abandoned his principled commitment to the truth and became a defender of propaganda.

In a podcast appearance last year, Harris acknowledged the politically motivated censorship of reporting related to Hunter Biden's laptops and admitted "a left-wing conspiracy to deny the presidency to Donald Trump." But, echoing Ball, he declared this a good thing.

"I don't care what's in the Hunter Biden laptop. ... Hunter Biden could have had corpses of children in his basement, and I would not have cared," Harris told his interviewers. He could overlook the murdered children because an even greater danger lurked in the possibility of Trump's reelection, which Harris compared to "an asteroid hurtling toward Earth."

With an asteroid hurtling toward Earth, even the most principled rationalists might end up asking for safety over truth. But an asteroid has been falling toward Earth every week for years now. The pattern in these cases is that the ruling class justifies taking liberties with the law to save the planet but ends up violating the Constitution to hide the truth and protect itself.


Posted by: Ace at 04:55 PM




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1 first ish

Posted by: gnats local 678 at May 29, 2023 04:58 PM (B1FKF)

2 It's more than a Ruling Class, although that's part of it.

It's The Borg, the unholy alliance of BigGov, Media Academia and an increasing number of co-opted companies. It's starting to run a social credit system, where the Ruling Class have the most credit.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 29, 2023 04:58 PM (RqMSv)

3 well, one party with two faces.

mccarthy has proven that he can negotiate with the democrats every bit as well as john kerry can negotiate with the iranians.

we have a deal. yay.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at May 29, 2023 04:59 PM (B1FKF)

4 nooded

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at May 29, 2023 05:00 PM (Vwz3I)

5 must i be the one to tell everyone that there is a new thread?

Posted by: gnats local 678 at May 29, 2023 05:00 PM (B1FKF)

6 Bill Kristol (@BillKristol) February 14, 2017

Obviously strongly prefer normal democratic and constitutional politics. But if it comes to it, prefer the deep state to the Trump state.

Posted by: weft cut loop at May 29, 2023 05:01 PM (jzzG8)

7 is an asteroid like an interplanetary hemorrhoid? or more like a kamalaroid?

Posted by: gnats local 678 at May 29, 2023 05:02 PM (B1FKF)

8 The rise of the one party state? Started in 1865. Yeasty by now in my view.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at May 29, 2023 05:03 PM (oWBc3)

9 Boy heavy stuff for a holiday weekend Ace.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 29, 2023 05:03 PM (pmmLi)

10 Pray for America.

Posted by: Sam Adams at May 29, 2023 05:04 PM (VDbGO)

11 if i had a hemorrhoid i'd name him keith olbermann.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at May 29, 2023 05:05 PM (B1FKF)

12 is an asteroid like an interplanetary hemorrhoid? or more like a kamalaroid?
Posted by: gnats local 678 at May 29, 2023 05:02 PM


That depends on if someone properly set it up for success first.

Posted by: Flyguy at May 29, 2023 05:06 PM (VrVjC)

13 Obviously strongly prefer normal democratic and constitutional politics. But if it comes to it, prefer the deep state to the Trump state.
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Did you type those words, in that order on purpose, or did you suffer a life altering head injury?

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 29, 2023 05:06 PM (7Fj9P)

14 Good read Ace

I am still thinking Angelo was whacked

Posted by: Skip at May 29, 2023 05:06 PM (xhxe8)

15 It all sounds logical. But at some point it will require direct action. A truly sad day.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 29, 2023 05:07 PM (YGqO/)

16 DeepState IS the asteroid. They were never saving us from anything.

Posted by: illiniwek at May 29, 2023 05:07 PM (Cus5s)

17 It's not a "party".. It's a wake

Posted by: It's me donna at May 29, 2023 05:08 PM (bs+z0)

18 BLOOD!

RIVERS OF BLOOD!

IT'S THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE OF OUR TAXPAYER DOLLARS!

Posted by: Miss Lindsey, Servant of Ba'al! at May 29, 2023 05:08 PM (2tUFv)

19 Posted by: Miss Lindsey, Servant of Ba'al! at May 29, 2023 05:08 PM (2tUFv)

Especially those Jan. 6th Grannies taking selfies

Posted by: It's me donna at May 29, 2023 05:09 PM (bs+z0)

20 Nood this M'fers, we're only 18 comments in.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 29, 2023 05:10 PM (7Fj9P)

21 Tangential: The deep state description of 'social class' ect is what the British Tory seem to be - bound less by ideology and more by caste. Or is that an old and invalid assumption.

Posted by: 13times at May 29, 2023 05:10 PM (7Tb4o)

22 I’m sure Harris never showed those YouTube vids when he was being owned by believers. Anyway these religious atheists are just circus seals clapping at anything their trainer wants them to.

And if the deep state conspiracy is as described, just hold on because most of these evil people are only few years from leaving this planet for judgement day.

Posted by: polynikes at May 29, 2023 05:12 PM (MNhXM)

23 if lindsay graham had kept his mouth shut about a national ban on abortion, the repubs probably would have done better in last year's elections. same for that jackass mccarthy saying that impeaching president jellybrain was off the table.

but send money so we can take back congress.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at May 29, 2023 05:12 PM (B1FKF)

24 The fact that the people in that Time magazine article are still sucking oxygen underscores what a deeply unserious movement the Right is.

It's one thing to get robbed, it's something worse to not go after the thieves afterwards.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, GotG vol 3 review at May 29, 2023 05:13 PM (xcxpd)

25 "opposition class is allowed to exist" - this is why we still have [ a few] republican majorities in the California central valley and mountain counties.

'been aware of this for years now.

Posted by: 13times at May 29, 2023 05:14 PM (7Tb4o)

26 It's ok to kill Nazis ya know.

Posted by: fd at May 29, 2023 05:14 PM (iayUP)

27 Lenin sounds positively modern in his denunciation of "disinformation":

Why should freedom of speech and freedom of press be allowed? Why should a government which is doing what it believes to be right allow itself to be criticized? It would not allow opposition by lethal weapons. Ideas are much more fatal things than guns. Why should any man be allowed to buy a printing press and disseminate pernicious opinions calculated to embarrass the government?

Posted by: Three Days Until Pride Month! at May 29, 2023 05:15 PM (2tUFv)

28 To paraphrase Bill Kristol, and perhaps clarify his meaning:

"I am an out-and-out Fascist who will blather BS about Democracy and Constitutions, but really insist on installing that set of smug, comfortable people who yearn to bring back Serfdom in all of its manifestations."

Posted by: Erik In Texas at May 29, 2023 05:15 PM (aGGj6)

29 Internet Meme Atheists are far more irrational and religious than they pretend to be to cow the weak-minded. The UnReligion has simply co-opted the vernacular and traditions of scientific sorts in the same way that Catholicism co-opted many pagan traditions in order to gain broader acceptance. I probably dislike these sorts even more than the religious morons, on account of them hijacking things that weren't theirs to score points in dumb spiritual arguments that accomplish nothing.

Posted by: CppThis at May 29, 2023 05:16 PM (PZvjL)

30 Bidens next term should be life in Prison for treason the same for Obama and both the Clintons then revoke the American Citizenships of Gates and Soros and other UN/CFR Globalists then Evict the UN lets turn that whole facility into a Homeless shelter we can move the whole UN to Moscow

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at May 29, 2023 05:16 PM (FLiOE)

31 It's ok to kill Nazis ya know.
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KILL ME?!? Antifa said they would only *punch* me...

Posted by: Nazis at May 29, 2023 05:16 PM (7Fj9P)

32 27 Lenin sounds positively modern in his denunciation of "disinformation":

Why should freedom of speech and freedom of press be allowed? Why should a government which is doing what it believes to be right allow itself to be criticized? It would not allow opposition by lethal weapons. Ideas are much more fatal things than guns. Why should any man be allowed to buy a printing press and disseminate pernicious opinions calculated to embarrass the government?

Posted by: Three Days Until Pride Month! at May 29, 2023 05:15 PM (2tUFv)

My, it's almost as if they read his book!

Posted by: Erik In Texas at May 29, 2023 05:16 PM (z0DEK)

33 @28 Spot on.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 29, 2023 05:17 PM (RqMSv)

34 if lindsay graham had kept his mouth shut about a national ban on abortion, the repubs probably would have done better in last year's elections

Tee, hee!

Why do you think I did it?

Did you think that I wanted a bunch of new Republican Senators who might vote me out of the Senate leadership?

Posted by: Miss Lindsey, Servant of Ba'al! at May 29, 2023 05:17 PM (2tUFv)

35 This specific topic needs to be reposted after memorial day weekend. Maybe once a week for the next two years.

Posted by: 13times at May 29, 2023 05:17 PM (7Tb4o)

36 re 28: perhaps kristol believes he will get a job at the ministry of truth explaining the conservative case for reeducation camps.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at May 29, 2023 05:17 PM (B1FKF)

37 Thank you United States Veterans.

NO HONOR TO AMERICAN MERCENARIES!

Posted by: Trump2024. DeSCAMtis Sucks at May 29, 2023 05:19 PM (yp7/I)

38 re 28: perhaps kristol believes he will get a job at the ministry of truth explaining the conservative case for reeducation camps.

Don't worry - Kristol will quickly go to the wall after the Final Takeover, along with me.

Posted by: Miss Lindsey, Servant of Ba'al! at May 29, 2023 05:20 PM (2tUFv)

39 to paraphrase The Allman Brothers:


there's only one way out, but nobody wants to open that door

Posted by: DB - at May 29, 2023 05:21 PM (geLO8)

40 I knew Biden was going to be catastrophic, but I never freaked out and said it was going to be like an asteroid headed towards Earth. These people are nuts. If Trump ever got re-elected, they will go ape shit.

Posted by: fd at May 29, 2023 05:21 PM (iayUP)

41 Crossing the streams with the previous thread, a huge part of the reason why I say I'm libertarian and more recently alt-right is that conservatism is defined and controlled by guys like Bill Kristol. Those guys don't really represent me, and Edmund Burke has been dead for like 200 years, so why would I claim to be conservative if I'm obviously not?

Posted by: CppThis at May 29, 2023 05:21 PM (PZvjL)

42 Thank you United States Veterans.

NO HONOR TO AMERICAN MERCENARIES!
Posted by: Trump2024. DeSCAMtis Sucks at May 29, 2023 05:19 PM (yp7/I)

Is this post Ironic that DeSantis is a Veteran and Trump is not? Or is it a troll?

Posted by: polynikes at May 29, 2023 05:21 PM (MNhXM)

43 It's about who is to be The Master.

Posted by: Humpty Dumpty at May 29, 2023 05:22 PM (SYTee)

44 re 36: Perhaps. Maybe he'll hand out copies of The Little Red Book at the front gate.

Posted by: Erik In Texas at May 29, 2023 05:22 PM (z0DEK)

45 How would Sam Harris feel if it was his murdered children in Hunter's basement?

Posted by: fd at May 29, 2023 05:22 PM (iayUP)

46 The fact that most of these asshats vacationed in Florida during the pandemic shows how unserious these "elites" actually are! They're like petulant teens when confronted with their failures.
The illogical rejoinders I hear from our betters should be embarrassing enough for some reflection. But, we're treated to childish name calling instead.

Posted by: Unkaren at May 29, 2023 05:22 PM (LPkjK)

47 but send money so we can take back congress

*************

If I were President and heard what Graham said about killing Russians being money well spent I would have disappeared his fucking faggot ass down a Siberian ratfucking nest hole

Posted by: The Unmasked and Unvaxxed Ranger at May 29, 2023 05:22 PM (hcNad)

48 The Romans LOVED their gigantic pointless structures. Until it was too late.

Posted by: lorien1973 at May 29, 2023 05:24 PM (Lavx8)

49 "If I were President and heard what Graham said about killing Russians being money well spent..."

Appalling. He is such a disgrace.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at May 29, 2023 05:25 PM (MeG8a)

50 22 -

That's right. No one lives forever. And the Gavin Newson generation are lazy wastelings feeding off the cornucopia of past economic gaines.

It will all cave in and they will fall with it.

Posted by: 13times at May 29, 2023 05:25 PM (7Tb4o)

51 Today I was visiting SE NC...Beaufort and Havelock NC. MCAS Cherry Point. Lots of flags and boots on the ground. I love this neighborhood!

Posted by: NC Ref at May 29, 2023 05:25 PM (fnmJK)

52 The illogical rejoinders I hear from our betters should be embarrassing enough for some reflection. But, we're treated to childish name calling instead.
Posted by: Unkaren at May 29, 2023 05:22 PM (LPkjK)

They are deeply infected with normalcy bias.

Posted by: lorien1973 at May 29, 2023 05:25 PM (Lavx8)

53 >If I were President and heard what Graham said about killing Russians being money well spent


I heard about that- he must be a f***ing idiot to speak like that

Posted by: DB - at May 29, 2023 05:25 PM (geLO8)

54 If I were President and heard what Graham said about killing Russians being money well spent..."

Appalling. He is such a disgrace.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at May 29, 2023 05:25 PM (MeG8a)

Agree.

Posted by: polynikes at May 29, 2023 05:26 PM (MNhXM)

55 I have a theory what says that South Carolina is the Minnesota of the south.

Posted by: CppThis at May 29, 2023 05:26 PM (PZvjL)

56 How would Sam Harris feel if it was his murdered children in Hunter's basement?

While a legitimate question, you'll be branded some sort of bigot because of a fake marginalization issue. Hunter's addiction makes him a victim. Although, Rush Limbaugh was castigated for his opioid addiction.
We live in a strange time.

Posted by: Unkaren at May 29, 2023 05:26 PM (LPkjK)

57 > If I were President and heard what Graham said about killing Russians being money well spent I would have disappeared his fucking faggot ass down a Siberian ratfucking nest hole
__________
The Russians issued an arrest warrant for Graham over his comments. Not that it means anything, but I'll be he shit a little bit in his pants when he heard it.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 29, 2023 05:27 PM (Q4IgG)

58 >If I were President and heard what Graham said


this was a pussified MFer trying to sound tough
yet he manages to fool SC voters every 6 years

Posted by: DB - at May 29, 2023 05:27 PM (geLO8)

59 but I'll be he shit a little bit in his pants when he heard it.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 29, 2023 05:27 PM (Q4IgG)

That's cuz he's old. He probably jacks off at night thinking about nuclear war with russia.

Posted by: lorien1973 at May 29, 2023 05:28 PM (Lavx8)

60 That's cuz he's old. He probably jacks off at night thinking about nuclear war with russia.

GIVE ME THAT SARMAT, BABY!

Posted by: Miss Lindsey, Servant of Ba'al! at May 29, 2023 05:30 PM (2tUFv)

61 It's more than a Ruling Class, although that's part of it.

It's The Borg, the unholy alliance of BigGov, Media Academia and an increasing number of co-opted companies. It's starting to run a social credit system, where the Ruling Class have the most credit.
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 29, 2023 04:58 PM (RqMSv)

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It started in universities in late 90s and early 2000s with business school teaching corporate social responsibility which seems harmless as it preached not doing harm while amassing profits.

This has now morphed into "we know what is good for consumers" and we will insist on it. The deep state could not carry out their thuggery without corporate support.

We now have a two front war, the corporations who want to rule and universities who keep churning out the fascists.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at May 29, 2023 05:30 PM (3JfbU)

62 Many former War Between The States veterans , Union and Confederate fought the Spanish American War, their sons and grandsons fought WW I and WW II. Their great grandsons fought Korea and Vietnam. Their great great grandsons fought the First Gulf War, Enduring Freedom, and Iraqi Freedom. Americans gave their lives for freedom's sake. We need to bring them home. The next fight will be here.

Posted by: Eromero at May 29, 2023 05:30 PM (Uv0D2)

63 37 Posted by: Trump2024. DeSCAMtis Sucks at May 29, 2023 05:19 PM (yp7/I)

Retard say what?

American mercs are usually veterans, they provide the muscle for the PMCs that the Farm and Foggy Bottom use to conduct policy around the laws of armed conflict.

PS those are mostly democrat traditions, ask Hillary and Ambassador Stevens about it.

Posted by: sven at May 29, 2023 05:31 PM (X0I7i)

64 Miss Lindsey wants to sound all hardcore and badass, but he'd totally lose it if America somehow found the testicular fortitude to actually *be* hardcore and badass. We lose wars because the people who like the theoretical concept of wars have no stomach for the practical implementation of wars.

Posted by: CppThis at May 29, 2023 05:31 PM (PZvjL)

65 I knew Biden was going to be catastrophic, but I never freaked out and said it was going to be like an asteroid headed towards Earth. These people are nuts. If Trump ever got re-elected, they will go ape shit.
Posted by: fd at May 29, 2023 05:21 PM (iayUP)


And that's why I say that neither Trump or DeSantis will be allowed to be elected to the presidency.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at May 29, 2023 05:31 PM (BdMk6)

66 this was a pussified MFer trying to sound tough
yet he manages to fool SC voters every 6 years
Posted by: DB
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SC is a GOPe machine state. Plus, none of the voters get any idea what ole Ladybug Lindsay is up to in DC and other places.

Posted by: whig at May 29, 2023 05:32 PM (wUSgb)

67 Whitworth, the CEO of Anheuser-Busch is a perfect example that proves that it's corporations that have gone rogue and support the deep state. He was first with CIA after college but decided that wasn't deep enough for him and that A-B was a better vehicle for domination.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at May 29, 2023 05:34 PM (3JfbU)

68 66 Posted by: whig at May 29, 2023 05:32 PM (wUSgb)

as an ex-resident of the "glorious state" of Sc thrice I can tell you that is not true.

They know what Ms McCain is about and keep voting for them anyway.

Posted by: sven at May 29, 2023 05:34 PM (X0I7i)

69 Today I was visiting SE NC...Beaufort and Havelock NC. MCAS Cherry Point. Lots of flags and boots on the ground. I love this neighborhood!
Posted by: NC Ref at May 29, 2023 05:25 PM (fnmJK)

I will down at lejeune on Thursday, probably for my last time

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 29, 2023 05:35 PM (pmmLi)

70 65 I knew Biden was going to be catastrophic, but I never freaked out and said it was going to be like an asteroid headed towards Earth. These people are nuts. If Trump ever got re-elected, they will go ape shit.
Posted by: fd at May 29, 2023 05:21 PM (iayUP)


And that's why I say that neither Trump or DeSantis will be allowed to be elected to the presidency.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons
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The incompetence of the ruling class is what leads opposition to coalesce around a strong man aka tyrant. Easier to keep one person pleased than a whole deraged social class with delusions of grandeur.

This does not often work out well in historical examples in the long run (aka Turkish military dictatorships) but does trample on the ruling class pretty thoroughly. Erdogan, for example, has mainly replaced the Turkish liberal class with his own Islamists. In Hungary, Victor Orban has done the same with globalists and it appears that Poland is turning against them too now.

Posted by: whig at May 29, 2023 05:36 PM (wUSgb)

71 70 Posted by: whig at May 29, 2023 05:36 PM (wUSgb)

Eventually a second or third class power with actual kinetic workers gets frozen out socially and then goes nuts on the assholes.

It will take a bit for us to get there, and it is liable to be a leftoid as much as a righty.

Posted by: sven at May 29, 2023 05:37 PM (X0I7i)

72 Posted by: whig at May 29, 2023 05:32 PM (wUSgb)

South Carolina, the Benzo State....

Posted by: International Brotherhood of Hobos and Associated Hermits at May 29, 2023 05:38 PM (dzZCL)

73 We now have a two front war, the corporations who want to rule and universities who keep churning out the fascists.
Posted by: President Select Decaf

No one will die for a corporation and that is their weakness plus they show no loyalty whatsover to their employees and as a result, employees show none to them. Universities are becoming less desirable by the day and since 2020 now have declining enrollments.

Posted by: whig at May 29, 2023 05:38 PM (wUSgb)

74 Only way DJT gets elected will be through court battles IF any can be gotten to before the Deep State gets to them scaring them off like 2020

Posted by: Skip at May 29, 2023 05:39 PM (xhxe8)

75 Our little town has American flags on the lampposts, some red, white and blue buntings on the gazebo outside "city hall." We have our nationalistic hate symbology up as well.

Yes, it doesn't represent what the country is today, but it does drive the leftists insane.*

*More insane. (edited for accuracy.)

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 29, 2023 05:39 PM (Q4IgG)

76 No one will die for a corporation

Or for dear old Rutgers

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 29, 2023 05:39 PM (pmmLi)

77 56 How would Sam Harris feel if it was his murdered children in Hunter's basement?

While a legitimate question, you'll be branded some sort of bigot because of a fake marginalization issue. Hunter's addiction makes him a victim. Although, Rush Limbaugh was castigated for his opioid addiction.
We live in a strange time.
Posted by: Unkaren at May 29, 2023 05:26 PM (LPkjK)

I have a theory that because of Rush's castigation, the MSM avoided reporting on the looming opioid problem in Middle America for far too long - until it blew up in their backyards as well.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 29, 2023 05:39 PM (/iWhV)

78 Is this post Ironic that DeSantis is a Veteran and Trump is not? Or is it a troll?
Posted by: polynikes at May 29, 2023 05:21 PM (MNhXM)

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DeSantis is a veteran like David French is a veteran.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at May 29, 2023 05:40 PM (3JfbU)

79 @35, THIS!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - we are being gaslighted 24/365 at May 29, 2023 05:40 PM (v0mat)

80 DC-area church’s Memorial Day Weekend concert also honored victims of COVID and war in Ukraine

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Well, isn't that special.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at May 29, 2023 05:40 PM (FVME7)

81 Fox News
@FoxNews
‘Twilight’ actress [Rachelle Lefevre] won't bring her non-binary 7-year-old to Target after Pride displays moved

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I fully support screwing Target over in any way possible. After all, Target made itself a target.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at May 29, 2023 05:41 PM (FVME7)

82 I've not been to SC during an election season but I'm gonna assume that it's like Kentucky and Miss Lindsey, like Turtle, gets re-elected because he talks a lot of smack about how the other guy loves abortion and that's why you're morally obligated to vote GOPe. It's the gift that keeps on giving to both parties' crappy politicians.

Posted by: CppThis at May 29, 2023 05:41 PM (PZvjL)

83
And that's why I say that neither Trump or DeSantis will be allowed to be elected to the presidency.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons

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Well, something's gotta give. If another election is stolen right out from under our noses, I don't see how we don't have a Yeltsin-on-the-tank event.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 29, 2023 05:41 PM (lCaJd)

84 Only way DJT gets elected will be through court battles IF any can be gotten to before the Deep State gets to them scaring them off like 2020
Posted by: Skip


If Trump wins the nom, he'll be arrested the next day. Blue states will cancel his ballot slot. Game over.

If Desantis wins, the Feds will launch full-spectrum lawfare against him. His staffers and counsel will be harrassed, threatened, and assaulted. His rallys/meet-ups will be given the Charlottesville 2.0 treatment repleat with oddly uniformed Hoooite Supremas. ( as if neosnatzis would vote for a wop ). Supposed campaign violations and tax fraud will be announced daily. Email will be found describing Putin as a friend and supporter. It'll be 2020 times eleventy.

Neither will make it to the general election without a sustained, nation-wide counter-lawfare campaign by the GOP. And we know that's not happening now.

Posted by: weft cut loop at May 29, 2023 05:43 PM (jzzG8)

85 16 DeepState IS the asteroid. They were never saving us from anything.
Posted by: illiniwek at May 29, 2023 05:07 PM (Cus5s)


Yes, exactly. It is existential for them at this point, too. They know if they were somehow dislodged from power that they and their families would be killed. Hence, the police state.

Much of what we are seeing is flex, telling the rubes there is nothing you can do or your controlled opposition party can do. The point of the Durham Report was to give elected Republicans cover to claim something was done about the failed coup. Instead, it highlighted their impotence and revealed the ugly, totalitarian nature of the Deep State.

And, yes, the Deep State will take out the world with it via nuclear war before it relinquishes power for the reasons set forth above.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at May 29, 2023 05:43 PM (KSNKu)

86 I agree with all of this, but Trump also ran a dumpster fire of a campaign in 2020 that led to his loss. I can't do it again and watch him fumble the ball every news cycle.

Posted by: Kukui at May 29, 2023 05:43 PM (uMFis)

87 83 Well, something's gotta give. If another election is stolen right out from under our noses, I don't see how we don't have a Yeltsin-on-the-tank event.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 29, 2023 05:41 PM (lCaJd)


There's gotta be food shortages before people get actionably upset. But don't worry, Bill Gates and John Kerry are hard at work on making that happen.

Posted by: CppThis at May 29, 2023 05:43 PM (PZvjL)

88
That is to say, members of the ruling class refuse to submit to the authority of anyone outside the group, whom they disqualify from eligibility by casting them as in some way illegitimate.

Evidence: Sarah Palin - 'that woman' is how Bill Clinton would demean her.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 29, 2023 05:43 PM (enJYY)

89 Those interested in targets are welcome to join us on the Gun Thread, Sunday's at 7pm eastern!

Posted by: Weasel at May 29, 2023 05:43 PM (RG6z4)

90 Eventually a second or third class power with actual kinetic workers gets frozen out socially and then goes nuts on the assholes.

It will take a bit for us to get there, and it is liable to be a leftoid as much as a righty.
Posted by: sven
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Not as likely for a leftist. A power grab will probably end up like Allende. Simply put, I don't think the numbers are there for a Chavez simply because the leftists aren't a majority. That is what is likely to prompt an attempt to seize all power before it is lost.

Posted by: whig at May 29, 2023 05:44 PM (wUSgb)

91 And that's why I say that neither Trump or DeSantis will be allowed to be elected to the presidency.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at May 29, 2023 05:31 PM (BdMk6)

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That is a given. Dems and the media have decided to let Republicans have their little fun and then they will again install their vegetable as the POTUS.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at May 29, 2023 05:45 PM (3JfbU)

92 "avoided reporting on the looming opioid problem in Middle America for far too long - until it blew up in their backyards as well."

Every prep school and upscale suburban HS in the NYC area has a kid or two who OD'd. All from "good families>"

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 29, 2023 05:45 PM (RqMSv)

93 I've not been to SC during an election season but I'm gonna assume that it's like Kentucky and Miss Lindsey, like Turtle, gets re-elected because he talks a lot of smack about how the other guy loves abortion and that's why you're morally obligated to vote GOPe. It's the gift that keeps on giving to both parties' crappy politicians.
Posted by: CppThis at May 29, 2023 05:41 PM (PZvjL)


It is more of machine politics. The Lindsay nee Thurmond machine funds several candidates in the primary to split the anti-Lindsay vote, and then presents the voters with an 'us or the commie' choice.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at May 29, 2023 05:45 PM (aD39U)

94 For those who submit that we have no common ground with radical black nationalists, I submit this.

"White women are one of the most dangerous groups in the U.S."

https://tinyurl.com/mr4xan9v

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at May 29, 2023 05:46 PM (FVME7)

95 @FoxNews
‘Twilight’ actress [Rachelle Lefevre] won't bring her non-binary 7-year-old to Target after Pride displays moved
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks


Like the meme on Barnhardt's page a couple weeks ago: "A non-binary 7-year-old is like a vegan housecat. We know who's really making the decisions."

Posted by: mikeski at May 29, 2023 05:46 PM (DgGvY)

96 Only way DJT gets elected will be through court battles IF any can be gotten to before the Deep State gets to them scaring them off like 2020
Posted by: Skip

If Trump wins the nom, he'll be arrested the next day. Blue states will cancel his ballot slot. Game over.



Posted by: weft cut loop at May 29, 2023 05:43 PM


trump is scheduled to be convicted in both NYC and DC before the primary is finished, and he might be convicted in Georgia as well but that is not a 100% sure thing. It's looking more and more like it will be desantis.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 29, 2023 05:47 PM (ncXxy)

97 @CPPThis - SC is a conundrum poorly understood by those outside the state. The Uplands around Greenville are solid Republican. The Midlands lean more Democrat due to the large number of Black's. The Lowcountry near the Atlantic have a large contingency of imported NY, NJ and OH refugees that skew politicians to be more of the RHINO types. Witness Nancy Mace as Lindsey Graham lite.

Posted by: The Guy at May 29, 2023 05:47 PM (4cEdi)

98 Everyone should get a copy of the late & great Andrew Codevilla's book, The Ruling Class. It is perhaps 10 years old now. But once you read it your eyes will be wide open. There's another party in America to be awakened - the Country Party. I hope some of you will take the time.

Posted by: Ring O' Fire at May 29, 2023 05:48 PM (J/pqx)

99 No one will die for a corporation and that is their weakness plus they show no loyalty whatsover to their employees and as a result, employees show none to them. Universities are becoming less desirable by the day and since 2020 now have declining enrollments.
Posted by: whig at May 29, 2023 05:38 PM (wUSgb)

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Both these institutions can still inflict a lot of damage on the country and the world. A wounded and cornered animal can be very dangerous.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at May 29, 2023 05:49 PM (3JfbU)

100 After all, Target made itself a target.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at May 29, 2023 05:41 PM (FVME7)

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Very good turn of phrase.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at May 29, 2023 05:50 PM (3JfbU)

101 Welp, the anti-car, pro-bicycle, anti-Israel, insanely Left-wing mayor of Barcelona came in third in her attempt to get reelected.

It's very sad.

Posted by: Three Days Until Pride Month! at May 29, 2023 05:51 PM (2tUFv)

102 If Trump wins the nom, he'll be arrested the next day. Blue states will cancel his ballot slot. Game over.

If Desantis wins, the Feds will launch full-spectrum lawfare against him. His staffers and counsel will be harrassed, threatened, and assaulted. His rallys/meet-ups will be given the Charlottesville 2.0 treatment repleat with oddly uniformed Hoooite Supremas. ( as if neosnatzis would vote for a wop ). Supposed campaign violations and tax fraud will be announced daily. Email will be found describing Putin as a friend and supporter. It'll be 2020 times eleventy.

Neither will make it to the general election without a sustained, nation-wide counter-lawfare campaign by the GOP. And we know that's not happening now.
Posted by: weft cut loop
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There is no such thing as game over nor destiny. Basically the future is up for grabs regardless of what the news, commentors, or governments might say.

Posted by: whig at May 29, 2023 05:51 PM (wUSgb)

103 With an asteroid hurtling toward Earth...
My time hasn't come, but it will soon enough.
Get you house in order and be ready to meet your maker.

Posted by: SMOD at May 29, 2023 05:52 PM (8i+57)

104 Only way DJT gets elected will be if the GOP gets off its collective ass and puts together a massive, well oiled and unbeatable ballot harvesting/creation machine better than the Democrats. through court battles IF any can be gotten to before the Deep State gets to them scaring them off like 2020
Posted by: Skip

__________

Just a suggestion....

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 29, 2023 05:52 PM (Q4IgG)

105 In effect, any challenge to the authority of the ruling party, which represents the interests of the ruling class, is depicted as an existential threat to civilization.
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It is long past time to end their "civilization".

Posted by: Methos at May 29, 2023 05:52 PM (kOpft)

106 Welp, the anti-car, pro-bicycle, anti-Israel, insanely Left-wing mayor of Barcelona came in third in her attempt to get reelected.

LOL.

First, let us examine the program of Xavier Trias, the candidate who won the election. In the mobility debate organized on 9 May 2023, the Trias candidacy clearly articulated that:

They were against congestion charging

They were against improved cycling infrastructure for all ages and abilities

They were against traffic calming measures and reductions in speed limits

They were against transforming a highway into a liveable space (c/Aragó

During the campaign, the candidate boasted that “Barcelona is a motorcycle city” and that “cars have nothing to do with climate change” …. leaving many astounded.

Posted by: Three Days Until Pride Month! at May 29, 2023 05:53 PM (2tUFv)

107 Spain is pushing back.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at May 29, 2023 05:54 PM (MeG8a)

108 Both these institutions can still inflict a lot of damage on the country and the world. A wounded and cornered animal can be very dangerous.
Posted by: President Select Decaf
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Corporations have basically become gigolos for government and pissing off the right while the leftist rank and file despise them is a stupid move. The dumb ones will go belly up, the smart ones will figure out the best way is not to play. You see this dynamic with MNC's in the third world.

Universities have so feminized and demasculinized its students that they will not be the next Shining Path.

Posted by: whig at May 29, 2023 05:54 PM (wUSgb)

109 I was just at a Target in The Bronx. "Pride toys" were on display next to the register. Clientele is mostly working class people of color. I doubt they move any.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 29, 2023 05:54 PM (RqMSv)

110 "White women are one of the most dangerous groups in the U.S."

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I would qualify that with single white women.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at May 29, 2023 05:55 PM (3JfbU)

111 Spain is pushing back.

The loss of Barcelona was so embarrassing that the ruling party just called for new national elections.

Posted by: Three Days Until Pride Month! at May 29, 2023 05:56 PM (2tUFv)

112 Lindsey Graham is a disgusting, vile human being.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 29, 2023 05:56 PM (up/3i)

113 >I was just at a Target in The Bronx. "Pride toys" were on display next to the register.


wait-
we were told Target was moving that shit to the back of the store...

Posted by: DB - at May 29, 2023 05:56 PM (geLO8)

114 Molly Ball celebrated the "Shadow Campaign That Saved the 2020 Election." Biden's victory, wrote Ball, was the result of a "conspiracy unfolding behind the scenes" that drew together "a vast, cross-partisan campaign to protect the election" in an "extraordinary shadow effort."

+++++++++

They want you to know what they did because they're proud of it. As they become bolder they will admit more of their shenanigans, and why not. What are the people going to do to stop them? Vote?

Posted by: DFCtomm at May 29, 2023 05:57 PM (NTi06)

115 "White women are one of the most dangerous groups in the U.S."

**********

There’s a reason why we call them AWFLs

Posted by: The Unmasked and Unvaxxed Ranger at May 29, 2023 05:57 PM (hcNad)

116 It just gets better:

This moderate-to-conservative political program that will replace the Colau government implies that Barcelona will lose recognition and standing on the international stage of innovative urban planning and design. Furthermore, the city planning community around the globe will lose a leader who has been a source of inspiration and an example for undertaking brave and transformative changes in her city.
For the last eight years, Barcelona has become a global leader and role model for cities looking to quickly transform their city and adapt to climate change.

...
Cities leaders around the world adore Barcelona. They travel here to admire the high-quality public spaces, the Superblocks and the progressive leadership. Only two weeks ago, the city hosted a research team from the Active Travel Academy of the University of Westminster (United Kingdom). Countless journalists, academics and practitioners have contacted me eager to learn “how Barcelona has do so much, so fast”.

Posted by: Three Days Until Pride Month! at May 29, 2023 05:58 PM (2tUFv)

117 re 109: maybe in ocasio-crackpot's district?

Posted by: gnats local 678 at May 29, 2023 05:58 PM (B1FKF)

118 trump is scheduled to be convicted in both NYC and DC before the primary is finished, and he might be convicted in Georgia as well but that is not a 100% sure thing. It's looking more and more like it will be desantis.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 29, 2023 05:47 PM (ncXxy)

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So DeSantis is happy to be the controlled opposition?

Posted by: President Select Decaf at May 29, 2023 05:58 PM (3JfbU)

119 I can't say which will make it, DJT or DeSantis but one will and maybe best the vote fraud gets blown open

Posted by: Skip at May 29, 2023 05:58 PM (xhxe8)

120 I was just at a Target in The Bronx. "Pride toys" were on display next to the register.


wait-
we were told Target was moving that shit to the back of the store...
Posted by: DB - at May 29, 2023 05:56 PM (geLO

Have you been to DA Bronx lately?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 29, 2023 05:59 PM (pmmLi)

121 Part of McCarthy's deal was to reinstate studen loan payments. This overlaps with the pending SCOTUS case.

I don't know if the SCOTUS decision will reinstate some or all of the back interest owed. It's big dollatrs potentially.

This will hurt many recent graduates good and hard. It may start the fall of our universities. Let us pray!

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 29, 2023 05:59 PM (RqMSv)

122 It was Pride stuff, no tranny at my local Target. I'd bet it didn't register much with the local clientele.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 29, 2023 06:01 PM (RqMSv)

123 I don't know if the SCOTUS decision will reinstate some or all of the back interest owed. It's big dollatrs potentially.

This will hurt many recent graduates good and hard. It may start the fall of our universities. Let us pray!
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 29, 2023 05:59 PM (RqMSv)

Payments will start again but no back interest. back interest is not on the table

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 29, 2023 06:01 PM (pmmLi)

124 So DeSantis is happy to be the controlled opposition?
Posted by: President Select Decaf at May 29, 2023 05:58 PM (3JfbU)

+++++++

Neither is going to win, so it really doesn't matter. Just enjoy the purity spiral to the right as they do their darndest to get to the right of each other. When was the last time you saw that?

Posted by: DFCtomm at May 29, 2023 06:01 PM (NTi06)

125 It may start the fall of our universities. Let us pray!

The thing that amazed me was the people thought that the Federal government could "forgive" hundreds of billions of dollars in student loan debt, while continuing the current student loan program with no reforms whatsoever.

Posted by: Three Days Until Pride Month! at May 29, 2023 06:01 PM (2tUFv)

126 >>Have you been to DA Bronx lately?

Posted by: Nevergiveup


only in movies

Posted by: DB - at May 29, 2023 06:02 PM (geLO8)

127 Where's Strom Thurmond when we need him?

Posted by: Eromero at May 29, 2023 06:03 PM (Uv0D2)

128 ""[Single] White women are one of the most dangerous groups in the U.S.""

They dominate at many companies now, in much greater than numbers than Blacks, and they use Blacks as a progressive lever for their own advancement.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 29, 2023 06:03 PM (RqMSv)

129 The thing that amazed me was the people thought that the Federal government could "forgive" hundreds of billions of dollars in student loan debt, while continuing the current student loan program with no reforms whatsoever.
Posted by: Three Days Until Pride Month! at May 29, 2023 06:01 PM (2tUFv)

+++++++++

The college campus is the seat of their power.... no not right. It was their cradle. They aren't going to mess with Mama's check. They'll just forgive student loan debt every few years.

Posted by: DFCtomm at May 29, 2023 06:04 PM (NTi06)

130 Posted by: DFCtomm at May 29, 2023 05:57 PM

Bingo. There is an element of sociopathy as well. They have very poor impulse control along with a pathological need to show off their trophies. In the end it catches them and they set the world on fire.

Every society has and needs elites. We have the misfortune of having particularly shitty ones.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at May 29, 2023 06:05 PM (KSNKu)

131 and they use Blacks as a progressive lever for their own advancement.

Yep - blacks are the excuse for affirmative action, but white women from affluent backgrounds are the main beneficiaries.

Posted by: Three Days Until Pride Month! at May 29, 2023 06:05 PM (2tUFv)

132 They want you to know what they did because they're proud of it. As they become bolder they will admit more of their shenanigans, and why not. What are the people going to do to stop them? Vote?
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What's going to be fun is when they move from bragging about conning everyone into lockdowns, and start openly bragging about conning everyone into taking the covid jabs. Because you know that will include open mockery of the suffering of the victims of the jab.

Posted by: Methos at May 29, 2023 06:05 PM (kOpft)

133 There is no such thing as game over nor destiny. Basically the future is up for grabs regardless of what the news, commentors, or governments might say.
Posted by: whig

I don't believe in destiny. We'd be foolish to think that the Left and State aren't going to tie up Trump by Nov. '24. That's not a statement of policy preference. It's just the only logical extrapolation of what he's facing right now.

I can't see any judicial halt to his prosecution. We are post-Constitution now. There's nothing to stop it.

Posted by: weft cut loop at May 29, 2023 06:06 PM (jzzG8)

134 I put it to you that since Harris was such a vocal Atheist, itwas *Guaranteed * that he would choose the side of Evil whenever it really counted.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 29, 2023 06:06 PM (2PNxc)

135 I can't see any judicial halt to his prosecution. We are post-Constitution now. There's nothing to stop it.

If the East Germans could overthrow their Deep State, so can we.

Posted by: Three Days Until Pride Month! at May 29, 2023 06:08 PM (2tUFv)

136 Yep - blacks are the excuse for affirmative action, but white women from affluent backgrounds are the main beneficiaries.
Posted by: Three Days Until Pride Month!

And then Big Mike broke the mould.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 29, 2023 06:09 PM (ga8qR)

137 I have Targets on either end of township and rarely go to either. But last time did they were normal with checkouts and nothing locked up.

Posted by: Skip at May 29, 2023 06:09 PM (xhxe8)

138 "The future is unwritten" Joe Strummer, philosopher

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 29, 2023 06:10 PM (RqMSv)

139 trump is scheduled to be convicted in both NYC and DC before the primary is finished, and he might be convicted in Georgia as well but that is not a 100% sure thing. It's looking more and more like it will be desantis.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 29, 2023 05:47 PM (ncXxy)

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So DeSantis is happy to be the controlled opposition?

Posted by: President Select Decaf at May 29, 2023 05:58 PM


Didn't say anything about that in my post, I was just pointing out what the democrat plan is.


As michael vik said.....I ain't got no dog in this fight. I am voting for whoever wins the republican primary.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 29, 2023 06:10 PM (ncXxy)

140 If the East Germans could overthrow their Deep State, so can we.
Posted by: Three Days Until Pride Month!


Um, they didn't. The Soviet Union collapsed. What am I missing here? ( did you mean Yugoslavia? )

Posted by: weft cut loop at May 29, 2023 06:11 PM (jzzG8)

141 We'll play this game in the US & territories as long as it pays, and pays very well, while making confetti out of the U.S. Constitution. A choice between the government of Lindsay Graham or AOC.

Incidentally, the spokesperson for trade group Norwegian Offshore Wind called the recent flurry of activity on US offshore wind “the Biden boost.”

“That’s how we view it,” Vatnøy told CNN. “A change in how people talk about the US and offshore wind in the same sentence after Biden.”

Making & taking the money!

Posted by: Lola - ALL the 1/6 videotapes from Alexandra & Jades, too. at May 29, 2023 06:11 PM (GshMh)

142 I can't see any judicial halt to his prosecution. We are post-Constitution now. There's nothing to stop it.
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It really is amazing to see how many people refuse to understand that the American system of government has been overthrown and expect that system to somehow solve the problem.

Posted by: Methos at May 29, 2023 06:12 PM (kOpft)

143 In the end it catches them and they set the world on fire.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at May 29, 2023 06:05 PM (KSNKu)

+++++++++

I once read an article about the American military and why it was so successful. They attributed it to our military being an open field military designed to destroy other militaries, while so many other militaries around the world were designed to police the population. It seems to me there is a ring of truth in that.

What is happening now is that our leadership and military is going to be shifting to policing of the population while the militaries of the world focus on defeating our military in the field. As our leadership grows increasingly incompetent they will create their own shit tests that will test their fitness, and they will fail. The problem is we're hostages on this crazy train with them.

Posted by: DFCtomm at May 29, 2023 06:13 PM (NTi06)

144 Completely unrelated but important: people are creating AI accounts on Twitter to make even more of a mess of things.

@ericareport May 23
If convicted, could Donald Trump legally face the death penalty in the Stormy Daniel's hush-money case?

The account is 100% fake. Even the photo is AI 'art'. Be warned.

Posted by: weft cut loop at May 29, 2023 06:13 PM (jzzG8)

145 re 140: or romania, that was an uprising. bang

Posted by: gnats local 678 at May 29, 2023 06:13 PM (B1FKF)

146 Dozens of NATO peacekeepers injured during clashes in northern Kosovo.

Nothing is forever.

Posted by: Lola - ALL the 1/6 videotapes from Alexandra & Jades, too. at May 29, 2023 06:13 PM (GshMh)

147 If the East Germans could overthrow their Deep State, so can we.
Posted by: Three Days Until Pride Month!

Um, they didn't. The Soviet Union collapsed. What am I missing here? ( did you mean Yugoslavia? )
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Maybe Poland?

Of course that requires action other than sitting around on our asses waiting for elections to fix things.

Posted by: Methos at May 29, 2023 06:14 PM (kOpft)

148 "If the East Germans could overthrow their Deep State, so can we."

One of the best movies ever is The Lives of Others, and it's based on a true story from East Germany. Ordinary people can do good even in a corrupt system.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 29, 2023 06:15 PM (RqMSv)

149 A blessed, respectful Memorial Day, Horde. All respects to those who preserved our nation as long as they could.

That said, our nation is doomed.

Posted by: Ladyl at May 29, 2023 06:15 PM (+4oV5)

150 The average 30 year mortgage rate in the US today is 7.21%. And it's only going up.

The hard part about predicting the future is it has happened yet.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 29, 2023 06:15 PM (ZLI7S)

151 If debt doesn't matter, then why are we paying taxes?

Posted by: Erik In Texas at May 29, 2023 06:15 PM (Mij+d)

152 Um, they didn't. The Soviet Union collapsed.

East Germany overthrew their dictatorship two years before the Soviet Union collapsed.

Posted by: Three Days Until Pride Month! at May 29, 2023 06:15 PM (2tUFv)

153 Dozens of NATO peacekeepers injured during clashes in northern Kosovo.

KILL THE SERBS!

Posted by: Miss Lindsey, Servant of Ba'al! at May 29, 2023 06:17 PM (2tUFv)

154 As I remember it, East Germans fled to the West through neighboring countries no longer under control by the Soviets. Made the wall obsolete.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 29, 2023 06:18 PM (RqMSv)

155 > and they use Blacks as a progressive lever for their own advancement.
_____________

The black community at large is apparently is ok with being used a pawns in the left's race war fevered dream. It's a decision they've made. I'm fine with that decision. It's theirs.

The end result might not be to their liking. And I'm fine with that as well.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 29, 2023 06:18 PM (Q4IgG)

156 "One of the best movies ever is The Lives of Others..."

A great movie, based on facts.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at May 29, 2023 06:18 PM (MeG8a)

157 If debt doesn't matter, then why are we paying taxes?
Posted by: Erik In Texas at May 29, 2023 06:15 PM (Mij+d)

+++++++

A progressive tax code is a tool of control not revenue generation. It's about rewarding friends and punishing enemies. Also, if you want to look at Modern Money Theory(MMT) that is also their desired mechanism to control inflation.

Posted by: DFCtomm at May 29, 2023 06:19 PM (NTi06)

158 "If debt doesn't matter, then why are we paying taxes?"

We're like a rich household that ran up its massive home equity loan.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 29, 2023 06:19 PM (RqMSv)

159 The problem is we're hostages on this crazy train with them.
Posted by: DFCtomm at May 29, 2023 06:13 PM (NTi06)

Murder/suicide is the endpoint of many abusive relationships. This may be shaping up in this case as well.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at May 29, 2023 06:20 PM (KSNKu)

160 I'd love it if someone on the Left could rationally explain to me what "Trumpism" means.

But they can't. Because they're psychopaths.

Trump was the most law-abiding, non-radical president we've ever had.

Posted by: Sharkman at May 29, 2023 06:21 PM (glv2F)

161 If debt doesn't matter, then why are we paying taxes?
Posted by: Erik In Texas at May 29, 2023 06:15 PM (Mij+d)

Exactly!

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at May 29, 2023 06:21 PM (vHIgi)

162 If you are still wondering where all this gay/tranny shit is coming from wonder no more.

It's coming from Davos, the UN and globalists. There's one party but it isn't being run from DC.

https://tinyurl.com/2p9xtjdx

Posted by: JackStraw at May 29, 2023 06:23 PM (ZLI7S)

163 Trump should investigate cloning.
There has to be some number of Golden Scalp Weasels that would actually cause all these asshoes to flee to Europe.

Posted by: DaveA at May 29, 2023 06:23 PM (FhXTo)

164 AOC recently posted on twitter that money printing doesn't contribute to inflation.
In spite of it being the very damn definition of it.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at May 29, 2023 06:24 PM (MeG8a)

165
The average 30 year mortgage rate in the US today is 7.21%. And it's only going up.

The hard part about predicting the future is it has happened yet.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 29, 2023 06:15 PM


Yup. I went into retirement with a first mortgage paid off but with a slightly annoying amount on a second mortgage with a rate half of that. My payment is now almost doubled. Thanks, Joe.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 29, 2023 06:24 PM (enJYY)

166 AOC has a degree in international economics (and mixology!)

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 29, 2023 06:25 PM (RqMSv)

167 Posted by: JackStraw at May 29, 2023 06:23 PM (ZLI7S)

Chilling, not in the least because of the fanatic's robotic delivery.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at May 29, 2023 06:28 PM (KSNKu)

168 Ignoramus - You forgot her degree in Msrxism

Posted by: Skip at May 29, 2023 06:30 PM (xhxe8)

169
Benny Johnson at a Target to check out the story. Sick stuff being mainstreamed. 'My Queer Year' childs book.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 29, 2023 06:30 PM (enJYY)

170 The average 30 year mortgage rate in the US today is 7.21%. And it's only going up.

The hard part about predicting the future is it has happened yet.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 29, 2023 06:15 PM

Yup. I went into retirement with a first mortgage paid off but with a slightly annoying amount on a second mortgage with a rate half of that. My payment is now almost doubled. Thanks, Joe.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 29, 2023 06:24 PM


We took out a 30 year mortgage here 7 years ago at 3.25% fixed. We have been making double principle payments since I started collecting my social security. That 30 year note is now going to be paid off in 10 years. The problem is, what do we do with the money after that? Just putting it in the bank is stupid and I have more ammo than I will ever use in my lifetime.


Inflation is killing us slowly and the money is literally no good in the long term.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 29, 2023 06:31 PM (ncXxy)

171 "The problem is, what do we do with the money after that?"

Do what I do. Spend it.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at May 29, 2023 06:32 PM (MeG8a)

172
Maybe it's time to quit my Target boycott. With my as not yet diagnosed Alzheimers I have an excuse to toss some milk into my shopping cart then leave it in the groomer aisle. Along with cheese and other perishables.

"I'm an old man'/Uncle Leo defense.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 29, 2023 06:35 PM (enJYY)

173 AOC recently posted on twitter that money printing doesn't contribute to inflation.
In spite of it being the very damn definition of it.


She's dumb, but not that dumb. She just believes lying is the best way of achieving whatever other nonsense she thinks involves more government.
Was she a successful bartender? IOW, does she have a fallback plan!

Posted by: Unkaren at May 29, 2023 06:36 PM (LPkjK)

174 nood

Posted by: Methos at May 29, 2023 06:36 PM (kOpft)

175
Inflation is killing us slowly and the money is literally no good in the long term.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 29, 2023 06:31 PM


My wife worked 30 underpaid years for a pension which has lost 20% of its value since Joe Potato took office. It's not too difficult to plot the trajectory of its future value.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 29, 2023 06:37 PM (enJYY)

176 The thing that amazed me was the people thought that the Federal government could "forgive" hundreds of billions of dollars in student loan debt, while continuing the current student loan program with no reforms whatsoever.
Posted by: Three Days Until Pride Month! at May 29, 2023 06:01 PM

*waves*

Posted by: The Democrats' debt ceiling arguments at May 29, 2023 06:39 PM (Wnv9h)

177 Rich statement: “If any other group were to rule, all progress and hope would be lost, and the dark forces of fascism and barbarism would at once sweep back over the earth.”
When the ruling statists are, literally, fascist.

Posted by: FINGERS at May 29, 2023 06:58 PM (C8ve7)

178 One of the best movies ever is The Lives of Others..."

A great movie, based on facts.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at May 29, 2023 06:18 PM


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Basically the low-tech version of where we are right now.

Posted by: Bigsmith at May 29, 2023 07:08 PM (cshYE)

179 The average 30 year mortgage rate in the US today is 7.21%. And it's only going up.

The hard part about predicting the future is it has happened yet.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 29, 2023 06:15 PM (ZLI7S)

My first ever mortgage (1979) was about 12 per cent. Yikes.

Posted by: Fox2! at May 29, 2023 07:11 PM (4GxJn)

180 There is no such thing as game over nor destiny. Basically the future is up for grabs regardless of what the news, commentors, or governments might say.
Posted by: whig at May 29, 2023 05:51 PM (wUSgb)

My colonial oath.

Posted by: NZFrank with an M2 at May 29, 2023 07:35 PM (bgJ0E)

181 Well, it took at least two years for these people to actually disseminate Molly's little article; most of us have known about it since Feb 4, 2021 and have been trying to articulate it.

Now? It may be another two years, after the 2024 before anyone tries to counter every.single.fucking.thing in that article because as of right now we lose in 2024 no matter the candidate. The RNCorporation has told us the "make money when our guys lose." and repeated it in 2022.

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