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aceofspadeshq at gee mail.com CBD: cbd at cutjibnewsletter.com Buck: buck.throckmorton at protonmail.com joe mannix: mannix2024 at proton.me MisHum: petmorons at gee mail.com J.J. Sefton: sefton at cutjibnewsletter.com | Trump SpeaksI'll put the Cafe back up when he's done. Comments(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Diogenes at April 04, 2023 08:29 PM (anj39) 2
Let's goooo!
Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at April 04, 2023 08:29 PM (I6BxT) 3
Godspeed, DJT!
Posted by: JQ at April 04, 2023 08:29 PM (o0Fxd) 4
That was weird.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 04, 2023 08:29 PM (u73oe) 5
Tuning into it now.
Posted by: JmT at April 04, 2023 08:29 PM (n0LqG) Posted by: mikeski at April 04, 2023 08:29 PM (DgGvY) 7
Wow....ace made me think I was havin' a stroke.
Posted by: BignJames at April 04, 2023 08:29 PM (AwYPR) 8
Remember everyone, he said pussy.
Posted by: Biden 2022: I am making sure he does not become the next president again at April 04, 2023 08:29 PM (XSoJN) 9
Whiplash!
Posted by: Heavy Meta at April 04, 2023 08:30 PM (gryET) 10
RSBN just died on me, but OANN has it.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at April 04, 2023 08:30 PM (EXyHK) 11
Frankly, I'm surprised they let him out of New York. I guess they aren't quite that confident.
Posted by: Hobbes at April 04, 2023 08:30 PM (fVT3+) 12
G-D bless, PDT.
Posted by: Ben Had at April 04, 2023 08:30 PM (Qbzop) 13
I said it in the cafe but it bears repeating: I just hope he listens to his lawyers and doesn't score a legal own goal that gets used against him simply to fire up his base.
Posted by: CppThis at April 04, 2023 08:31 PM (PZvjL) 14
Playing legal games in today's America is not the Right's strong suit .
Posted by: polynikes at April 04, 2023 08:31 PM (9se1c) 15
Pray for this man; we need him badly.
Posted by: IrishEi at April 04, 2023 08:31 PM (3ImbR) 16
Not for nothing, after everything Trump has been through over the last 8 years, he looks damn good for 76 and spoiling for the fight.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at April 04, 2023 08:31 PM (up/3i) 17
I said it in the cafe but it bears repeating: I just hope he listens to his lawyers and doesn't score a legal own goal that gets used against him simply to fire up his base.
It sounds like a campaign rally. Posted by: Archimedes at April 04, 2023 08:31 PM (eOEVl) 18
I don't have to watch it to know what he is going to say. That's my President.
Not that I am not open to other options, mind you. Posted by: fd at April 04, 2023 08:32 PM (iayUP) 19
Wow....ace made me think I was havin' a stroke.
Posted by: BignJames at April 04, 2023 08:29 PM (AwYPR) He zapped the last thread to go to Donnie. Posted by: JmT at April 04, 2023 08:32 PM (n0LqG) Posted by: mikeski at April 04, 2023 08:32 PM (DgGvY) 21
The CCP leaders have to be dumbfounded at how easy and cheap it is to capture the American "elites" and institutions. Just Dumfounded.
Say one thing for Brandon: When he's bought he stays bought. Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at April 04, 2023 08:32 PM (/Qz4j) 22
I said it in the cafe but it bears repeating: I just hope he listens to his lawyers and doesn't score a legal own goal that gets used against him simply to fire up his base.
-- Yeah, I sure would hate for the Democrats to find some baseless charge to press against him. Posted by: Biden 2022: I am making sure he does not become the next president again at April 04, 2023 08:32 PM (XSoJN) 23
This is an very interesting title Ace.
During the Stations of the Cross, there are 14 Stations. In each, the Narrator says "Mary speaks." followed by the Blessed Virgin's thoughts about that Station. Immediately following Mary, the Narrator says "Jesus speaks." followed by Jesus' thoughts for that Station. I am certainly not equating these two events - just taking notice of an interesting literary device. Posted by: Tonypete at April 04, 2023 08:33 PM (qoGsy) 24
IrishEi and Thomas Bender, yes.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at April 04, 2023 08:33 PM (EXyHK) 25
I’m keeping my fingers crossed he doesn’t go off script.
Posted by: Jaimo at April 04, 2023 08:33 PM (sOA7y) 26
Alrighty!
Lee Greenwood earworm activated. Posted by: Lizzy at April 04, 2023 08:34 PM (EdLEa) 27
That's MY President!!!!
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas - Ace of Spades Ladies Brigade, plucky comic relief at April 04, 2023 08:34 PM (SRRAx) 28
He's talking about the case, so no gag-order.
Posted by: JmT at April 04, 2023 08:34 PM (n0LqG) 29
Willowed
I hope Trump has a plan because frankly in spite of all the joking, this was the hill to die on. I don't think there will be another opportunity where someone of Trump's stature ( former President) could have refused to cooperate causing the games to begin. Posted by: polynikes at April 04, 2023 08:34 PM (9se1c) 30
History lesson.
-- I wonder how many people realize what happened today and how it relates to crucial moments in the past. I'm betting only 2-3% of Americans have any idea that this was one of those focal points of history. Posted by: Biden 2022: I am making sure he does not become the next president again at April 04, 2023 08:34 PM (XSoJN) 31
Prayers and good luck to DJT
Posted by: Skip at April 04, 2023 08:34 PM (xhxe8) 32
He's talking about the case, so no gag-order.
Posted by: JmT at April 04, 2023 08:34 PM (n0LqG) ~~~~~ No gag order, but the judge told him to watch what he says. *spit* Posted by: IrishEi at April 04, 2023 08:35 PM (3ImbR) 33
Rumble is overloaded
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at April 04, 2023 08:36 PM (dKiJG) 34
Now he's talking about the records. Tells he's looking to the next case, not worried about the NY bs.
Posted by: JmT at April 04, 2023 08:36 PM (n0LqG) 35
He's talking about the case, so no gag-order.
~~~~~ No gag order, but the judge told him to watch what he says. *spit* -- Maybe they don't want him to explain who was defrauded. Posted by: Biden 2022: I am making sure he does not become the next president again at April 04, 2023 08:36 PM (XSoJN) 36
DoJ, we find nothing prosicutible, Bragg-- blasphemy! Crucify him
Posted by: Ben Had at April 04, 2023 08:37 PM (Qbzop) 37
Rumble is overloaded
Yeah, I had to switch to OAN Live. Possibly RSBNs own site or app would still work, too? Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at April 04, 2023 08:37 PM (EXyHK) 38
Evening.
Posted by: Robert at April 04, 2023 08:37 PM (n1z0R) 39
This is going to be a wild race.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 04, 2023 08:38 PM (ZLI7S) Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 04, 2023 08:38 PM (ZTyZ5) 41
He sounds pissed.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 04, 2023 08:38 PM (u73oe) 42
Rumble....not ready for prime time.
Posted by: Mark1971 at April 04, 2023 08:38 PM (xPl2J) 43
Trump should smack that ice cream guy.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 04, 2023 08:38 PM (63Dwl) 44
Anyone else accepted that the timing is on purpose, too, just to tease and laugh at and f*ck with Christians that they know support him?
Posted by: Biden 2022: I am making sure he does not become the next president again at April 04, 2023 08:39 PM (XSoJN) 45
Prayers up every night for DJT and his family. And our country.
Posted by: LASue at April 04, 2023 08:39 PM (Ed8Zd) 46
I'm sure that President Trump will take the sage advice of that stalwart patriot, Asa Hutchinson, and withdraw from the race immediately. These are very serious charges.
Posted by: Rhubarb Ranch at April 04, 2023 08:39 PM (l5ftB) 47
15 Pray for this man; we need him badly.
Posted by: IrishEi at April 04, 2023 08:31 PM (3ImbR Yes, As Jack Straw said "Trump or tyranny". Letting the Uniparty pick our candidates can't be allowed. Posted by: CN at April 04, 2023 08:39 PM (Zzbjj) 48
No prison tattoos yet?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at April 04, 2023 08:39 PM (s12c9) 49
Trump sounds off? Just me?
Posted by: Grandmalcaesar at April 04, 2023 08:39 PM (B+YVE) 50
Now onto Georgia.
Posted by: JmT at April 04, 2023 08:39 PM (n0LqG) Posted by: IrishEi at April 04, 2023 08:39 PM (3ImbR) 52
I said I wasn't going to make any campaign contributions, but I just might send a few bucks to Trump just for the FU factor.
Posted by: fd at April 04, 2023 08:39 PM (iayUP) 53
Embattled! Embattled!
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 04, 2023 08:40 PM (R8uWY) 54
I wonder how many people realize what happened today and how it relates to crucial moments in the past.
I'm betting only 2-3% of Americans have any idea that this was one of those focal points of history. Posted by: Biden 2022: I am making sure he does not become the next president again at April 04, 2023 08:34 PM (XSoJN) I agree that this is an inflection point for America. Thank the Teachers' Unions for that ignorance you mentioned. Posted by: RickZ at April 04, 2023 08:40 PM (emlEe) 55
I'm not listening if there's no crazy sign language guy.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at April 04, 2023 08:40 PM (s12c9) 56
44 Anyone else accepted that the timing is on purpose, too, just to tease and laugh at and f*ck with Christians that they know support him?
Posted by: Biden 2022: I am making sure he does not become the next president again at April 04, 2023 08:39 PM (XSoJN) No, I don't think they'd have chosen this week had they considered it. The Luciferians are too busy worshipping themselves Posted by: CN at April 04, 2023 08:40 PM (Zzbjj) 57
Rumble....not ready for prime time.
RSBN@Rumble died for me the moment this post went live. I choose to believe an AOSHalanche. Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at April 04, 2023 08:40 PM (EXyHK) 58
39 This is going to be a wild race.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 04, 2023 08:38 PM (ZLI7S) Prediction: Kamala has a sudden wardrobe malfunction at a campaign stop. Strangely, Biden's poles see a slight increase. Posted by: Robert at April 04, 2023 08:40 PM (n1z0R) 59
Trump sounds off? Just me?
Posted by: Grandmalcaesar at April 04, 2023 08:39 PM (B+YVE) Just you. He's knocking it out. Posted by: JmT at April 04, 2023 08:41 PM (n0LqG) 60
May you live in interesting times. - some Chinese asshat
Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 04, 2023 08:41 PM (5xURv) Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at April 04, 2023 08:41 PM (s12c9) 62
DoJ, we find nothing prosicutible, Bragg-- blasphemy! Crucify him
Posted by: Ben Had at April 0 Exactly. I can’t get the timing and parallels out of my mind. Posted by: LASue at April 04, 2023 08:42 PM (Ed8Zd) 63
HE FALSIFIED BUSINESS RECORDS PEEPLE!!!
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at April 04, 2023 08:41 PM (s12c9) Not a misdemeanor like taking money from China or laundering it in Keeeeev Posted by: CN at April 04, 2023 08:42 PM (Zzbjj) 64
I'm reading comments about people watching Trump on OANN. OANN was dropped by Verizon in NYC sometime last year. No differing news voices here. Nope, can't have that.
Posted by: RickZ at April 04, 2023 08:42 PM (emlEe) 65
61 Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at April 04, 2023 08:41 PM (s12c9)
Who the fuck does he think he is? //The DOJ, The DOD, and the IC Posted by: sven at April 04, 2023 08:42 PM (Lzpvj) 66
The Trump situation reminds me somewhat of the aftermath of the Marius-Sulla wars in ancient Rome, when power did what it wanted but was still nominally a representative government.
Posted by: CppThis at April 04, 2023 08:43 PM (PZvjL) 67
Thanks JmT
Posted by: Grandmalcaesar at April 04, 2023 08:43 PM (B+YVE) 68
63 Posted by: CN at April 04, 2023 08:42 PM (Zzbjj)
You have to love Bragg, I will admit this donkey DAs have outperformed $oro$' expectations for his plausibly deniable donations. Posted by: sven at April 04, 2023 08:44 PM (Lzpvj) 69
Prediction: Kamala has a sudden wardrobe malfunction at a campaign stop. Strangely, Biden's poles see a slight increase.
Posted by: Robert at April 04, 2023 08:40 PM ISWYDT. Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 04, 2023 08:44 PM (Wnv9h) 70
I don't mind that we're fighting with knives now. What bothers me most is that our side keeps bringing pool noodles to the fight.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 04, 2023 08:44 PM (5xURv) 71
No, I don't think they'd have chosen this week had they considered it. The Luciferians are too busy worshipping themselves Posted by: CN -- Their timing is never accidental. Stalins birthday and other events are always what they make their own events around. That kept coming out during Obama. I am certain this is no different. IIRC the grand jury was silent and then all the sudden started up again this week. Because it is this week. Posted by: Biden 2022: I am making sure he does not become the next president again at April 04, 2023 08:44 PM (XSoJN) 72
66 The Trump situation reminds me somewhat of the aftermath of the Marius-Sulla wars in ancient Rome, when power did what it wanted but was still nominally a representative government.
Posted by: CppThis at April 04, 2023 08:43 PM (PZvjL) ----------- The Proscriptions should be LIT Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at April 04, 2023 08:44 PM (s12c9) Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 04, 2023 08:44 PM (R8uWY) 74
66 The Trump situation reminds me somewhat of the aftermath of the Marius-Sulla wars in ancient Rome, when power did what it wanted but was still nominally a representative government.
Posted by: CppThis at April 04, 2023 08:43 PM (PZvjL) Secession of the Plebs to me. Maybe the Gracchi. Posted by: Thesokorus at April 04, 2023 08:44 PM (1ais2) 75
Any election results coming from Wisconsin yet?
Posted by: Mark1971 at April 04, 2023 08:44 PM (xPl2J) 76
Not a misdemeanor like taking money from China or laundering it in Keeeeev
Posted by: CN at April 04, 2023 08:42 PM (Zzbjj) Or deleting 33,000 emails. Posted by: RickZ at April 04, 2023 08:45 PM (emlEe) 77
OANN was dropped by Verizon in NYC sometime last year.
I watch via their app. I dont have cable TV and theyre not OTA here. (Are they available OTA anywhere?) Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at April 04, 2023 08:45 PM (EXyHK) 78
75 Any election results coming from Wisconsin yet?
Posted by: Mark1971 at April 04, 2023 08:44 PM (xPl2J) #2weeks Posted by: A dude in MI at April 04, 2023 08:46 PM (/6GbT) 79
HE FALSIFIED BUSINESS RECORDS PEEPLE!!!
- In a business he wasn't running, and with records maintained by other people. Because reasons and shut up. Posted by: Biden 2022: I am making sure he does not become the next president again at April 04, 2023 08:46 PM (XSoJN) 80
The Gracchi were pimps. They could never have outfought the senatorial landowners.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at April 04, 2023 08:46 PM (s12c9) 81
How do they come up with 100+ years in prison for this? Our country is shit
Posted by: CN at April 04, 2023 08:46 PM (Zzbjj) 82
66 Posted by: CppThis at April 04, 2023 08:43 PM (PZvjL)
It means the republic is well and truly fucked, they will keep up pretenses for another two to twenty years but we are a kleptocratic tyrannical oligarchy at this point and sadly led by failure fetishists on the traditionalist side. Rome had Pompey and Caesar raiding other nations for their destabilizing wealth, our "leaders" have gone the other way and decided to scavenge this nations' corpse. Posted by: sven at April 04, 2023 08:46 PM (Lzpvj) 83
Commander McBragg was always a liar.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 04, 2023 08:46 PM (63Dwl) 84
Anyway watching the GOP judases fund raise off this is sickening.
Posted by: CN at April 04, 2023 08:47 PM (Zzbjj) 85
My apologies to any morons who live there, but New York can kiss my ass.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 04, 2023 08:47 PM (u73oe) 86
Haven't watched it yet. Did DJT issue Order 4?
4 Posted by: Filesystem /gp Rebuilding 8% at April 04, 2023 08:47 PM (MvF+J) 87
"President Trump Speaks, other "news" channels ignore completely
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy" He called them out for the liars they are so will be eternally hated. All of those networks will actively campaign against him. Posted by: fd at April 04, 2023 08:47 PM (iayUP) 88
74 Posted by: Thesokorus at April 04, 2023 08:44 PM (1ais2)
The Gracchi situation was the precursor to Sulla and then Caesar and Augustus. In essence the elites have decided "fuck it the game is over" not grasping they have a lot more to lose with its passing than the working class. Posted by: sven at April 04, 2023 08:47 PM (Lzpvj) 89
Pretty heavy feel from Trump. The next phase of the war has started.
Posted by: t-bird at April 04, 2023 08:47 PM (e2onP) 90
it's never a good Idea to go after a Judge.
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at April 04, 2023 08:48 PM (dKiJG) 91
The Gracchi were pimps. They could never have outfought the senatorial landowners.
Posted by: Cicero The Gracchi never had the makings of varsity athletes. Posted by: Tonypete at April 04, 2023 08:48 PM (qoGsy) 92
>>Or deleting 33,000 emails.
Or receiving and distributing read-in only highly classified documents in which you are not granted access to (espionage). Posted by: Lizzy at April 04, 2023 08:48 PM (EdLEa) 93
90 it's never a good Idea to go after a Judge.
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at April 04, 2023 08:48 PM (dKiJG) Cheese it, the fed!!! Posted by: CN at April 04, 2023 08:48 PM (Zzbjj) 94
Some modern historians have revisited the Catiline conspiracy and tend to think that he wasn't such a bad guy. The first of his two conspiracies was almost certainly made up by his enemies--sound familiar?--and the second one, while real, happened in this chaotic time of arbitrary large-scale persecution and harassment by whichever faction held the Senate for the moment.
It was this shitty situation, coupled with a yuuuge amount of ambition, that ultimately drove Julius Caesar to do the, you know, uh, thing. Posted by: CppThis at April 04, 2023 08:48 PM (PZvjL) 95
Commander McBragg was always a liar.
Yes, but he was an interesting liar, and patriotic. His grandson Alvin is just a shadow of a smear. Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at April 04, 2023 08:48 PM (EXyHK) 96
If they won't move the trial, can the Supreme Court step in? There is zero chance that Trump can ever get a fair trial in NY or an impartial jury.
Rachel Maddow will be appointed jury foreman. Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 04, 2023 08:49 PM (5xURv) 97
Checked just now. CNN is airing Trump. MSNBC not.
Posted by: JmT at April 04, 2023 08:49 PM (n0LqG) 98
90 it's never a good Idea to go after a Judge.
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at April 04, 2023 08:48 PM (dKiJG) Unless it's Kavanaugh, Thomas, etc...you know ones that donks, like you hate Posted by: CN at April 04, 2023 08:49 PM (Zzbjj) 99
Any election results coming from Wisconsin yet?
Posted by: Mark1971 Wretched Whitmer wins the GOPe primary by a 98% land slide Posted by: BifBewalski at April 04, 2023 08:50 PM (3CCua) 100
He called them out for the liars they are so will be eternally hated. All of those networks will actively campaign against him.
So nothing will change. Posted by: Ann at April 04, 2023 08:50 PM (ilNea) 101
The misconduct (apparently including felonies) and conflicts of interest of this entire toxic clownshow are really something. Historic - in the real sense, not how it's always used to describe the ascent of unfit undeserving incompetent and often criminal mediocrities in the US now.
Posted by: rhomboid at April 04, 2023 08:50 PM (OTzUX) 102
This is one tiny part of America that did this. It ain't worth the beads we paid for it,
The gaslighting is making you think this is 'America' .No this is the crooked Commie wheel that is squeaking . Oil will be applied eventually. Posted by: polynikes at April 04, 2023 08:50 PM (9se1c) 103
CNN/MSLSD....Trump speaking...not news[/] Us speaking about Trump...news.
Posted by: BignJames at April 04, 2023 08:50 PM (AwYPR) Posted by: Errorick Errorickson at April 04, 2023 08:50 PM (iayUP) 105
it's never a good Idea to go after a Judge.
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at April 04, 2023 08:48 PM (dKiJG) Kavanaugh's Senate Confirmation hearings say otherwise. Plain language is needed by Trump and taking on a corrupt judge is okay by me. Posted by: RickZ at April 04, 2023 08:51 PM (emlEe) 106
Fuck the Dems
Fuck 'em! Posted by: Diogenes at April 04, 2023 08:51 PM (anj39) 107
Uh oh
Posted by: BignJames at April 04, 2023 08:51 PM (AwYPR) 108
98 90 it's never a good Idea to go after a Judge.
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at April 04, 2023 08:48 PM (dKiJG) Unless it's Kavanaugh, Thomas, etc...you know ones that donks, like you hate Posted by: CN at April 04, 2023 08:49 PM (Zzbjj) True and their families Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at April 04, 2023 08:51 PM (dKiJG) 109
I wonder how many people are capable of looking at what is happening and replacing the U.S. with Mexico, France, Brazil, etc. and what their reaction would rightly be?
Posted by: Biden 2022: I am making sure he does not become the next president again at April 04, 2023 08:51 PM (XSoJN) 110
If they thought they were going to make him back down they might want to rethink their strategy.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 04, 2023 08:51 PM (ZLI7S) 111
94 Posted by: CppThis at April 04, 2023 08:48 PM (PZvjL)
Eh Cataline felt he was "born to power" and jerked off to the corruption the system ran on. It reminds me a lot of the 'ghanis and Iraqis who ran the shops near our FOBs.....they expected to be shook down but woe betide the command group that went past 7-11% of the receipts. Posted by: sven at April 04, 2023 08:51 PM (Lzpvj) 112
Good speech, calm, measured and determined.
Posted by: Erik In Texas at April 04, 2023 08:52 PM (8rKh8) 113
God bless the last President of the former United States
Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger at April 04, 2023 08:52 PM (VTu1l) 114
The gaslighting is making you think this is 'America' .No this is the crooked Commie wheel that is squeaking . Oil will be applied eventually.
Posted by: polynikes at April 04, 2023 08:50 PM (9se1c) Well, American leadership, including GOP is the wheel. You can't imagine the GOP who kissed Mueller's ass for 2 years are distraught. Posted by: CN at April 04, 2023 08:52 PM (Zzbjj) 115
How the man gets the energy is beyond me. Good genes and clean living I guess.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at April 04, 2023 08:52 PM (lz5hY) 116
He's talking about the case, so no gag-order.
Posted by: JmT at April 04, 2023 08:34 PM (n0LqG) ~~~~~ No gag order, but the judge told him to watch what he says. *spit* Posted by: IrishEi I think he is almost DARING them to issue a gag order on him. Let's not half ass this, gentlemen. LET'S GO FULL ASS! FULL SPEED AHEAD! Posted by: Barnacle Bill the sailor at April 04, 2023 08:52 PM (tjZg/) 117
110 If they thought they were going to make him back down they might want to rethink their strategy.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 04, 2023 08:51 PM (ZLI7S) Maybe. I don't think they are done piling on yet. Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 04, 2023 08:52 PM (5xURv) 118
97 Checked just now. CNN is airing Trump. MSNBC not.
Posted by: JmT at April 04, 2023 08:49 PM (n0LqG) ------------ Wow. That Chris Licht is really bringing on the "no bias" revolution at CNN! Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at April 04, 2023 08:52 PM (s12c9) 119
Rachel Maddow will be appointed jury foreman.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 04, 2023 08:49 PM (5xURv) She'll be the juror waving pom-poms. Posted by: RickZ at April 04, 2023 08:52 PM (emlEe) 120
As for going to SCOTUS, the route is predetermined through the state court hierarchy first. Rooker-Feldman doctrine.
Posted by: SFGoth at April 04, 2023 08:53 PM (KAi1n) 121
'Claim your Trump Mystery Box?'
Posted by: Filesystem /gp Rebuilding 8% at April 04, 2023 08:53 PM (MvF+J) Posted by: t-bird at April 04, 2023 08:53 PM (Sv58p) 123
Just caught the tailend of the address. He's still got my vote.
Posted by: Eromero at April 04, 2023 08:53 PM (MF3yS) 124
115 How the man gets the energy is beyond me. Good genes and clean living I guess.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at April 04, 2023 08:52 PM (lz5hY) ---------- That, and banging supermodels. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at April 04, 2023 08:53 PM (s12c9) 125
She'll be the juror waving pom-poms. Posted by: RickZ The (biased lefty) judge already said no cameras so we're almost okay... Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 04, 2023 08:54 PM (HF7ZE) 126
"So nothing will change.
Posted by: Ann" Pretty much. I don't know how he beats the cheat. I hope he has a plan. I do know that he has won before, when everyone said he couldn't. Posted by: fd at April 04, 2023 08:54 PM (iayUP) 127
Wow. That Chris Licht is really bringing on the "no bias" revolution at CNN!
Posted by: Cicero That guy's a dick! Posted by: Jeff Spicoli at April 04, 2023 08:54 PM (tjZg/) 128
>>Maybe. I don't think they are done piling on yet.
Oh definitely not. But this is where Trump lives. He is never better than when he is fighting back. And with the Biden's he has no end of material to hit them with. Posted by: JackStraw at April 04, 2023 08:54 PM (ZLI7S) 129
Remember this date.
The Day America died. Posted by: Diogenes at April 04, 2023 08:54 PM (anj39) 130
I doubt they want anyone to see the railroading.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 04, 2023 08:54 PM (5xURv) 131
I love every one of you, but any person of even a slightly right-of-center bent that still lives in one of these deep commie hellhole states/counties is an idiot.
They will grind you to dust between the millstones of lawfare and poverty. Move. Go somewhere else. Florida or Texas, or anywhere that doesn't vote for commies and then ask for more. You are not safe. Posted by: ballistic at April 04, 2023 08:54 PM (oXNqT) 132
Matrix reset. Take the blue pill and you won't notice. Posted by: mikeski ------ If it lasts more than 4 hours, ER. Posted by: Priapus at April 04, 2023 08:54 PM (g3gMh) 133
it's never a good Idea to go after a Judge.
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at April 04, 2023 08:48 PM (dKiJG) Unless it's Kavanaugh, Thomas, etc...you know ones that donks, like you hate Posted by: CN at April 04, 2023 08:49 PM (Zzbjj) Amy Comey Barrett. Scalia. Janice Rogers. Yep. Super bad idea. Posted by: LASue at April 04, 2023 08:55 PM (Ed8Zd) 134
Deja Vue Cafe!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 04, 2023 08:55 PM (HF7ZE) 135
It's a state court trial. Just fyi, it would have to through New York appeals channels before anyone on the Federal level gets a Crack at it.
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 04, 2023 08:55 PM (r46W7) 136
Shut up lying Fox. He won and was cheated out of it. We know it. You know it. Hopefully, someday we can punish you.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at April 04, 2023 08:55 PM (Angsy) 137
Move. Go somewhere else. Florida or Texas, or anywhere that doesn't vote for commies and then ask for more. You are not safe.
Posted by: ballistic And do what for work at age 55+? Posted by: SFGoth at April 04, 2023 08:56 PM (KAi1n) 138
So the only recourse is the NY Supreme Court?
Then they won't move the venue and Trump will be convicted. Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 04, 2023 08:56 PM (5xURv) 139
Have not commented until I read indictment. Basically this is a political fight, not a legal one at this point so legal commentary is beside the point.
So far courts and lawyers such as Bragg have largely squandered any reason to believe that this is simply because they can justification just as Jan 6 protesters are being treated. The total corruption and injustice meted out by French judges prior to the French revolution meant that judicial supremacy was squashed post revolution. Posted by: whig at April 04, 2023 08:56 PM (gglJX) 140
This is one tiny part of America that did this. It ain't worth the beads we paid for it,
The gaslighting is making you think this is 'America' .No this is the crooked Commie wheel that is squeaking . Oil will be applied eventually. Posted by: polynikes at April 04, 2023 08:50 PM (9se1c) No it won't. They won. We lost. The question is what do we do next as the remnant? Posted by: JmT at April 04, 2023 08:56 PM (n0LqG) 141
Shut up lying Fox. He won and was cheated out of it. We know it. You know it. Hopefully, someday we can punish you.
Posted by: OrangeEnt We know it, you know it, and Bob Dole knows it too! Hey wait! I'm dead! (thud) Posted by: Zombie Bob Dole at April 04, 2023 08:56 PM (tjZg/) 142
Who's the Fox liar?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at April 04, 2023 08:57 PM (Angsy) 143
The gaslighting is making you think this is 'America' .No this is the crooked Commie wheel that is squeaking . Oil will be applied eventually.
Posted by: polynikes -- Yep. Other than the federal government, all federal agencies, the vast majority of state government, the vast majority of local government, the vast majority of tax-free foundations, all levels of welfare recipients, all levels of academia, 90%+ of large corporations, written media, video media, radio media, music, Hollywood, other types of entertainment, and the majority of internet sites after a steady 100+ year plan to reach this moment, we're THIS close to victory. Posted by: Biden 2022: I am making sure he does not become the next president again at April 04, 2023 08:57 PM (XSoJN) 144
Well, American leadership, including GOP is the wheel. You can't imagine the GOP who kissed Mueller's ass for 2 years are distraught.
Posted by: CN at April 04, 2023 08:52 PM (Zzbjj) The 2024 Primary Season will be LIT. Posted by: mrp at April 04, 2023 08:57 PM (rj6Yv) 145
Yeah, I sure would hate for the Democrats to find some baseless charge to press against him.
******** I know, that would be unprecedented Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger at April 04, 2023 08:57 PM (VTu1l) Posted by: polynikes at April 04, 2023 08:57 PM (9se1c) 147
124 Anybody who says PDT has no discipline should look back to the 80s. The man was widely seen on the club circuit in NYC, yet remained away from the alcohol and the drugs of the era. Supermodels, more fun.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at April 04, 2023 08:57 PM (lz5hY) 148
Judge Freisler is a square shooter!
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at April 04, 2023 08:57 PM (s12c9) 149
"Janice Rogers"
Janice Rogers Brown. Fantastic CA Supreme Court justice. Fuck Bush for plucking her out and sticking her in the Federal Circuit Ct of Appeals to rot. Posted by: SFGoth at April 04, 2023 08:57 PM (KAi1n) 150
I wonder how many people are capable of looking at what is happening and replacing the U.S. with Mexico, France, Brazil, etc. and what their reaction would rightly be?
------- Heh. Posted by: Venezuela at April 04, 2023 08:58 PM (g3gMh) 151
True and their families
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at April 04, 2023 08:51 PM (dKiJG) Especially their families. Posted by: Antifag at April 04, 2023 08:58 PM (gryET) 152
Yep. Other than the federal government, all federal agencies, the vast majority of state government, the vast majority of local government, the vast majority of tax-free foundations, all levels of welfare recipients, all levels of academia, 90%+ of large corporations, written media, video media, radio media, music, Hollywood, other types of entertainment, and the majority of internet sites after a steady 100+ year plan to reach this moment, we're THIS close to victory. Posted by: Biden 2022: I am making sure he does not become the next president again at April 04, 2023 08:57 PM (XSoJN) Gentlemen, we're surrounded. Good. We got them right where we want them! Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 04, 2023 08:58 PM (5xURv) 153
"And do what for work at age 55+?"
I learned that lesson at age 62. Recruiters can't hide their disgust. They act like you're wasting their time. Posted by: Filesystem /gp Rebuilding 8% at April 04, 2023 08:58 PM (MvF+J) Posted by: Biden 2022: I am making sure he does not become the next president again at April 04, 2023 08:58 PM (XSoJN) 155
Trump is criticized by some on the right who admonish him to forget the cheating in the last election.
He came close today painting the picture he should expand on. You can't separate the cheating from Biden policies to the open border to the lies and false accusations, Afghanistan, Inflation...it's all part of the same goal of the Democrats...to bring this country to its knees and take over with one party rule. I hope he starts making that point clearly. You can't separate it out. Posted by: Dantes at April 04, 2023 08:58 PM (PcIFu) 156
And do what for work at age 55+?
Posted by: SFGoth Excellent point. My wife and I needed to be retired in order for us to move to our new AO. It simply was not possible before that. Posted by: Tonypete at April 04, 2023 08:58 PM (qoGsy) 157
Especially their families. Posted by: Antifag at April 04, 2023 08:58 PM (gryET) With the blessings of the DOJ Posted by: CN at April 04, 2023 08:58 PM (Zzbjj) 158
So the only recourse is the NY Supreme Court?
Posted by: AlaBAMA New York's top court is called the Court of Appeal (or something like that). The trial courts are called the Supreme Court. Didn't you watch Law & Order? Posted by: SFGoth at April 04, 2023 08:58 PM (KAi1n) 159
129 Remember this date.
The Day America died. Posted by: Diogenes at April 04, 2023 08:54 PM (anj39) I put the date at 5 July 2016 - the date Comey announced that "no reasonable prosecutor would pursue the case against Hillary Clinton". The four years of Trump were nothing more than keeping the dead body on life support. Posted by: moon_over_vermont at April 04, 2023 08:59 PM (UEHZk) 160
158 So the only recourse is the NY Supreme Court?
Posted by: AlaBAMA New York's top court is called the Court of Appeal (or something like that). The trial courts are called the Supreme Court. Didn't you watch Law & Order? Posted by: SFGoth at April 04, 2023 08:58 PM (KAi1n) No, I watched Baywatch. Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 04, 2023 08:59 PM (5xURv) 161
And do what for work at age 55+?
Posted by: SFGoth at April 04, 2023 08:56 PM (KAi1n) --- You've failed before you've even tried. Posted by: ballistic at April 04, 2023 08:59 PM (oXNqT) 162
Move. Go somewhere else. Florida or Texas, or anywhere that doesn't vote for commies and then ask for more. You are not safe.
******** Yes I’m moving even if I have to break the lease to do so, problem is deciding which red state will be my bunker hill to die on Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger at April 04, 2023 08:59 PM (VTu1l) 163
Well we have no business wagging our finger int he face of the other banana republics
Posted by: CN at April 04, 2023 09:00 PM (Zzbjj) 164
How are you going to stop the commies from moving to FL and TX? They will.
Posted by: Filesystem /gp Rebuilding 8% at April 04, 2023 09:01 PM (MvF+J) 165
Remember this date. The Day America died.
********* America died when the CIA murdered JFK we’re only just coming to grips with that now Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger at April 04, 2023 09:01 PM (VTu1l) Posted by: SFGoth at April 04, 2023 09:01 PM (KAi1n) 167
Yes I’m moving even if I have to break the lease to do so, problem is deciding which red state will be my bunker hill to die on
Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger -- The problem being the locusts are moving in the same numbers you are. We looked at S.C. recently, just a hop skip and jump across the border from the already-stripped N.C., and even that state is being consumed. Posted by: Biden 2022: I am making sure he does not become the next president again at April 04, 2023 09:01 PM (XSoJN) 168
I'm 51 in 2 months and 28 days-I can move hell I have done it 8 times in 25 years.
Posted by: sven at April 04, 2023 09:01 PM (Lzpvj) Posted by: Hillary Clinton with Justice Scalia's Pillow at April 04, 2023 09:01 PM (ptElO) 170
163 Well we have no business wagging our finger int he face of the other banana republics
Posted by: CN at April 04, 2023 09:00 PM (Zzbjj) --------- Nope. Those other banana republics let businesses falsify their documents with wild abandon. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at April 04, 2023 09:01 PM (s12c9) 171
Never seen heard of "Kraft" before...don't like him, he is using all of the same "Adjectives" all of the other anti-trumpers use, claiming every accusation against trump is true, any trump has made about the prior elections, the long knives of the deep state and weaponized govt are "Debunked, false, disproven".
Back in College a professor pointed out that "Reporting" doesn't use adjectives, only commentary and opinion does. Posted by: birddog at April 04, 2023 09:02 PM (uAI4S) 172
77 OANN was dropped by Verizon in NYC sometime last year.
--- I watch via their app. I don’t have cable TV and they’re not OTA here. (Are they available OTA anywhere?) --- I get OANN+ on Pluto TV: https://tinyurl.com/4zsumyt6 Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at April 04, 2023 09:02 PM (sWM8x) 173
w are you going to stop the commies from moving to FL and TX? They will.
-- It's weird how all those illegals are going there. Oh well, probably nothing. Posted by: Biden 2022: I am making sure he does not become the next president again at April 04, 2023 09:02 PM (XSoJN) 174
Meh. Skynet will become self-aware soon enough. Then we're all doomed, everywhere.
Posted by: SFGoth at April 04, 2023 09:02 PM (KAi1n) 175
America died when the CIA murdered JFK
we’re only just coming to grips with that now Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger at April 04, 2023 09:01 PM (VTu1l) Yep. Posted by: RickZ at April 04, 2023 09:02 PM (emlEe) 176
sven, good to see ya.
Posted by: JmT at April 04, 2023 09:02 PM (n0LqG) 177
Nope. Those other banana republics let businesses falsify their documents with wild abandon.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at April 04, 2023 09:01 PM (s12c9) You sound like you believe these charges Posted by: CN at April 04, 2023 09:02 PM (Zzbjj) 178
You've failed before you've even tried.
************ Yes, When you live in Venezuela do you wonder what you’ll do for a living or do you focus more on fleeing for your fucking life? Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger at April 04, 2023 09:03 PM (VTu1l) 179
131 I love every one of you, but any person of even a slightly right-of-center bent that still lives in one of these deep commie hellhole states/counties is an idiot.
They will grind you to dust between the millstones of lawfare and poverty. Move. Go somewhere else. Florida or Texas, or anywhere that doesn't vote for commies and then ask for more. You are not safe. Posted by: ballistic at April 04, 2023 08:54 PM (oXNqT) Dude here gets it. Either the shit is getting real or it's not, and if it *is* getting real then one must choose sides in more ways than just what websites they post comments on. Simple historically-based truth. Posted by: CppThis at April 04, 2023 09:03 PM (PZvjL) 180
164 How are you going to stop the commies from moving to FL and TX? They will.
Posted by: Filesystem /gp Rebuilding 8% at April 04, 2023 09:01 PM (MvF+J) I live near Austin. I know. They're just the last best option. They'll probably get overrun eventually but either one makes for a better final stand than a battlefield that was lost 20 years ago. Posted by: ballistic at April 04, 2023 09:03 PM (oXNqT) 181
Moving won't save anything. Wherever you go leftists are going there too.
Beating them is the only way. Posted by: JackStraw at April 04, 2023 09:03 PM (ZLI7S) 182
I'm 51 in 2 months and 28 days-I can move hell I have done it 8 times in 25 years.
Posted by: sven Well, sure, running out the statute of limitations is great motivation. Posted by: SFGoth at April 04, 2023 09:04 PM (KAi1n) 183
181 Moving won't save anything. Wherever you go leftists are going there too.
Beating them is the only way. Posted by: JackStraw at April 04, 2023 09:03 PM (ZLI7S) even if they don't move, they'll launch a coup and take it over. Posted by: CN at April 04, 2023 09:04 PM (Zzbjj) 184
I learned that lesson at age 62. Recruiters can't hide their disgust. They act like you're wasting their time.
"You're not the best fit for our culture". Posted by: Notorious BFD at April 04, 2023 09:04 PM (Xrfse) 185
America died when the CIA murdered JFK
we’re only just coming to grips with that now -- George H.W. Bush says hi. Posted by: Biden 2022: I am making sure he does not become the next president again at April 04, 2023 09:04 PM (XSoJN) 186
162 Move. Go somewhere else. Florida or Texas, or anywhere that doesn't vote for commies and then ask for more. You are not safe.
******** Yes I’m moving even if I have to break the lease to do so, problem is deciding which red state will be my bunker hill to die on Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger at April 04, 2023 08:59 PM Texas. It was the destination of Davy Crockett, James Butler Bonham, William B. Travis, and incidentally Chief Eromero. Posted by: Eromero at April 04, 2023 09:05 PM (MF3yS) 187
The Cafe thread has re-nooded.
Posted by: t-bird at April 04, 2023 09:05 PM (ptElO) 188
NPR:
MILWAUKEE, Wis. — For about a dozen years, Republican lawmakers have set Wisconsin's policies on everything from voting laws, to gun rights, to union restrictions; for the last decade, conservatives on the state Supreme Court have protected those Republican priorities. Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 04, 2023 09:05 PM (R8uWY) 189
Back in College a professor pointed out that "Reporting" doesn't use adjectives, only commentary and opinion does.
------------- That used to be AP's and the other wire services' standard but it died a long time ago. Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at April 04, 2023 09:05 PM (Vwz3I) 190
George H.W. Bush says hi.
Posted by: Biden 2022: I am making sure he does not become the next president again at April 04, 2023 09:04 PM (XSoJN) I wonder if that was the info in the funeral letters? Posted by: CN at April 04, 2023 09:05 PM (Zzbjj) Posted by: G'rump928(c) at April 04, 2023 09:06 PM (yQpMk) 192
182 SF Goth,
They just ignored the statue of limitations....this is a holy war by the commies no rules Posted by: Sven at April 04, 2023 09:06 PM (Lzpvj) 193
181 Moving won't save anything. Wherever you go leftists are going there too.
Beating them is the only way. Posted by: JackStraw at April 04, 2023 09:03 PM (ZLI7S) --- I don't disagree but you have to establish a beachhead somewhere if you're going to mount a counteroffensive. Being a conservative in Manhattan and expecting to take the fight to the commies is pissing in the wind. If we could secure a few of these states at least for a while, long enough for us to effectively fight the culture war the left started, we may have a chance. Dispersed, we will get crushed. Posted by: ballistic at April 04, 2023 09:07 PM (oXNqT) 194
The problem being the locusts are moving in the same numbers you are. We looked at S.C. recently, just a hop skip and jump across the border from the already-stripped N.C., and even that state is being consumed.
******** To be fair NC did overrule their fuckhead governors veto of their gun rights law (I think a concealed carry no longer requires a permit) And this is true only if conservatives remain where they are rather than moving and bolstering strongholds to offset illegal influx and then banding together to drive out those illegal fuckholes If you want a national divorce the first step is self segregating and moving to deep red areas Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger at April 04, 2023 09:07 PM (VTu1l) 195
162 Don't let it get out, but Arkansas is probably in the top three of reddest states. Folks tend to avoid it because of bad reputation, like hill billy trailer parks and other, mostly humorous insults. The only contact I have with the gubbmint is assess property value (pay nothing, disabled vet) and renew my license plates on line for $4 (disabled vet). Get the stickers in a week. Cops are pretty good, my Sheriff considers the 2A to be a force multiplier, and we have Constitutional Carry.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at April 04, 2023 09:07 PM (lz5hY) 196
184 I met one recruiter, we sit down, he takes one look at me, says "Well, let's get this over with." I wanted to get up, lock the door, and beat the sonofabitch to death with a chair. Just thinking about it now is torquing me up pretty bad. Better QRT.
Posted by: Filesystem /gp Rebuilding 8% at April 04, 2023 09:08 PM (MvF+J) 197
Moving won't save anything. Wherever you go leftists are going there too.
******** We’re not winning anything if we’re scattered abroad different states, we need to consolidate together and create an army Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger at April 04, 2023 09:09 PM (VTu1l) 198
Remember this date. The Day America died. Posted by: Diogenes Ben Domenech compares today to the Battle of Bull Run Go to 2:50 in the video https://www.foxnews.com/video/6323969819112 Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 04, 2023 09:10 PM (63Dwl) 199
it's never a good Idea to go after a Judge.
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at April 04, 2023 08:48 PM (dKiJG) I have entered the chat.... Posted by: Robert Bork at April 04, 2023 09:11 PM (89Sog) 200
I like Arkansas. Never lived there, but vacationed there often. I especially like Petit Jean State Park.
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 04, 2023 09:11 PM (r46W7) 201
Us - "We just want to be left alone to live our lives quietly, attend church, and raise our families the way we see fit." The left - "No." Posted by: Biden 2022: I am making sure he does not become the next president again at April 04, 2023 09:11 PM (XSoJN) 202
Texas. It was the destination of Davy Crockett, James Butler Bonham, William B. Travis, and incidentally Chief Eromero.
******* My best friend wants to move to Texas, would just need to convince my parents of the same Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger at April 04, 2023 09:11 PM (VTu1l) 203
I met one recruiter, we sit down, he takes one look at me, says "Well, let's get this over with." I wanted to get up, lock the door, and beat the sonofabitch to death with a chair. Just thinking about it now is torquing me up pretty bad. Better QRT.
Ran into something similar quite a while back when I was between jobs. Didn't punch the scrunt but would have liked to. Just said "I think we're done here." and walked out. Posted by: Notorious BFD at April 04, 2023 09:14 PM (Xrfse) 204
200 Arkansas has a lot of French names, dating back to the voyageurs passing through. My shootin' holler is along Vache Gras (fat cow) creek, named because, supposedly, some Frenchy shot a buffalo there.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at April 04, 2023 09:16 PM (lz5hY) 205
Yes, we in NC somehow managed to get a Republican majority in House, Senate, and most importantly, Supreme Court!
C’mon Down! The cities are blue but we had a lot more folks outside the blue zones. It’s better in our system burbs and nicer. Posted by: Hamitchell62 at April 04, 2023 09:25 PM (OHKr1) 206
We live in New York. We have raised our kids in accord with our mores and values taught us as children. They are the ones so denigrated today, and our children have been taught the same. Where we live the political atmosphere is totally unlike Downstate, we don't suffer antifa and the progressive left has never been able to get much traction.
The possibility of us being overrun with liberals certainly exists though the probability is slim. At any rate, THIS is my "hill for THEM to die on". I don't mean to run from anybody. Posted by: irongrampa at April 04, 2023 09:29 PM (KATBx) 207
"America died when the CIA murdered JFK --
we’re only just coming to grips with that now" yeah, I was gonna say, or maybe when Lincoln pushed tariffs, supported the railroads, and went to war to "keep the country united". That was perhaps the end of state sovereignty? idk, evil has been with us a long time ... I think at least the commies were in the WH pre WW2 ... then the McCarthy era of calling out commies in the government. So many stage of "DeepState" infiltration by enemy (foreign?) forces. Posted by: illiniwek at April 04, 2023 09:46 PM (Cus5s) 208
Prediction: Kamala has a sudden wardrobe malfunction at a campaign stop. Strangely, Biden's poles see a slight increase.
Kamala was decorative back in the Willie days, but by now she's just better looking than Warren and Pelosi and Hillary. Malfunction wouldn't be a plus anymore Posted by: azjaeger at April 04, 2023 09:52 PM (3/XaG) 209
thanks to earlier commenters (Servo and Mannix and?) for informing me, the "negative rights" thing was from the depression, when they wanted a new second bill of (positive) rights, which would establish socialism.
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