Ripley's Hero: Adam Kinzinger Was On Board of Advisors to Alleged Pro-Ukraine Group That Scammed People Out of Millions of Dollars and Is Now Under Federal Investigation

First Kinzinger promoted a fake soldier:

In 2022, Newsweek ran a glowing story about an American man who claimed to be a volunteer fighting with the Ukrainian Army. Vasquez claimed in March 2022. that he'd "taken out 7 Russian tanks."
Former Illinois Rep. Adam Kinzinger advocated for Vasquez, urging Twitter to verify his account, and posed in pictures with him.
Only the story of Vasquez joining the Ukrainian Army turned out to be fake. "Kinzinger's favorite Ukraine hero just deleted his account after it came out he is a fraud," Jack Posobiec said.

A representative of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the "ZSU," stated flatly that Vasquez has never had a contract to fight with the Legions of Ukraine, their foreign volunteer outfit.

"He will not be able to show enlistment papers with the ZSU. It is a rigorous process that requires weeks, if not months to complete. Invitation letter, Background checks, physical and intellectual tests, and a contract for either three years or until the end of mobilization.
"To be in ZSU means dedicating your life to ZSU. Not coming and going. Was James at the front? Seems so. Was James in the military? No. It is very specific. There are no special contracts with ZSU units, only Legion Units. I can't speak for Legion but James was not in Legion.
"For the sake of avoiding controversy I stayed out of it while other soldiers, real soldiers, called him out. I met James three times while I was in ZSU, all three times he was a civilian. It was shocking to see him say he was going on a mission to Soledar after we already left.
"But more shocking was the fact that James couldn't legally go on mission since he wasn't in the ZSU. Neither units, not companies, nor battalions can sign a soldier directly to a ZSU contract. It goes through a record/recruiting center and then to Brigade level."
...

In the March 2022 story, Newsweek quoted James Vasquez, saying "Alright. So far, we took out seven Russian tanks, after a long fire fight we took control of the area."

Kinzinger endorses anything fake having to do with Ukraine, so he also endorsed an organization called "Ripley's Heroes," supposedly established to raise money to arm the Ukranians.

The organization is now under federal investigation. A New York Times article describes the allegations. Ripley's Heroes, allegedly, bought optics technology on the restricted export list and sent it to our New Palz in Ukraine without bothering to get an export control waiver.

In fact, they seem to have made a straw purchase, concealing the identity of the buyer and the intended recipient.

Last spring, a volunteer group called Ripley’s Heroes said it had spent approximately $63,000 on night-vision and thermal optics. Some of the equipment was subject to American export restrictions because, in the wrong hands, it could give enemies a battlefield advantage.
Frontline volunteers said Ripley's delivered the equipment to Ukraine without required documentation listing the actual buyers and recipients. Recently, the federal authorities began investigating the shipments, U.S. officials said.
In his defense, the group's founder, a retired U.S. Marine named Lt. Col. Hunter Ripley Rawlings IV, provided deal documents to The Times. But those records show that, just as the volunteers said, Ripley's was not disclosed to the State Department as the buyer.

In addition, the group raised over $1 million, but only a fraction of that has been spent on arming anyone. The Times details less than $100,000 of equipment being purchased.

Ripley's says it has raised over $1 million, some of it thanks to the former Connecticut contractor, Mr. Vasquez, who claimed to be the group's chief strategy officer and promoted Ripley's to his online audience.
Ripley's spent around $25,000 on remote-control reconnaissance cars last year, but they never arrived, shipping records show. Colonel Rawlings said Polish authorities held them up over legal concerns.

While "Ripley's Heroes" has applied for nonprofit status, he won't reveal where the money is going to the Times. He would have to do that if he were a legally-recognized nonprofit, so why is he refusing?

Colonel Rawlings has said that his group is awaiting American nonprofit status. But he has not revealed his spending or proof of a nonprofit application to The Times or to donors who have asked. So it is not clear where the money is going. "I believed these guys," said Shaun Stants, who said he organized a fund-raiser in October in Pittsburgh but was never shown the financial records he asked for. "And they took me for a fool."
Corporate records in Poland and the U.S. show that Colonel Rawlings also started a for-profit company called Iron Forge. In an interview, he said he expected his charity and others to pay Iron Forge for transportation, meaning donor money would be used to finance his private venture. But he said no conflict of interest existed because Iron Forge would ultimately send money back to the charities. Details are being worked out, he said.

None of that sounds real to me.

So Kinzinger started by endorsing a fake soldier and would up endorsing a fake armament "charity."

In fact, he was on the board of advisors of "Ripley's Heroes."

Kinzinger was ON THE BOARD of the Ukraine org that scammed people out of millions of dollars! https://t.co/xSXHOyK25b
— Jordan Schachtel (@JordanSchachtel) March 25, 2023

Was Adam Kinzinger a party to a massive fraud scheme? Sure seems cozy with these guys, who visited his office in September. https://t.co/I9o2wj8XgY
— Jordan Schachtel (@JordanSchachtel) March 25, 2023

Via Bonchie at RedState.

Posted by: Ace at 12:03 PM

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1 first?

Posted by: sockamster, gator at March 27, 2023 12:03 PM (MLrvz)

2 Yes!
Happy Monday

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 27, 2023 12:03 PM (Y+l9t)

3 This is one reason I say to never donate to anyone ever.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 27, 2023 12:03 PM (LvTSG)

4 Kinzinger will face the same punishment as Jon Corzine got

Posted by: kallisto at March 27, 2023 12:04 PM (dCxaZ)

5 3 This is one reason I say to never donate to anyone ever.

it really has come to this

unless we spend a lot of time on due diligence

Posted by: kallisto at March 27, 2023 12:04 PM (dCxaZ)

6 Ripley? Vasquez?

Anyone see the movie Aliens?

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at March 27, 2023 12:05 PM (7GSJF)

7 Well at least it isn't like he was banging a Chinese spy or anything......

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 27, 2023 12:05 PM (ncXxy)

8 clearly kinzinger aspires to be as big a crook as his demonrat idols.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - we are being gaslighted 24/365 at March 27, 2023 12:05 PM (QNv15)

9 I can't stand even looking at his face. Just go away.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 27, 2023 12:06 PM (Y+l9t)

10 Only the story of Vasquez joining the Ukrainian Army turned out to be fake. "Kinzinger's favorite Ukraine hero just deleted his account after it came out he is a fraud," Jack Posobiec said.
++++
Recently, I've had a strong urge to watch "Wag the Dog" again ...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 27, 2023 12:07 PM (t0OGg)

11 It figures Kinzinger made Light Kernel. Flag grades only go to butkissers and cutthroats.

Posted by: Catherine at March 27, 2023 12:07 PM (ZSsrh)

12 They are all, UNIFORMLY, grifters and scammers in DC.

It's just a matter of how well they hide it.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at March 27, 2023 12:07 PM (N1DT3)

13 "Ripley's Heroes."

Believe it or not.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 27, 2023 12:07 PM (DlOzp)

14 Yo.

Posted by: Greyman27 at March 27, 2023 12:08 PM (RKLPC)

15 He may be on Burisma board, too.

Posted by: BignJames at March 27, 2023 12:08 PM (AwYPR)

16 Kinzinger is one of the biggest toadies to ever hop down Connecticut Avenue.

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at March 27, 2023 12:08 PM (EJqYm)

17 I'll bet real money that Kinzinger is shedding tears right now. Easy money because he's always crying.

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at March 27, 2023 12:08 PM (AiZBA)

18 man, if this isn't the best emblematic representation of fake republicanism.

this is prob the difference between gop and dnc. if i wanted to run as a fake lib democrat in a safe blue district, the dnc would fight tooth and nail and have a vetting process. it looks like every safe gop district is first come, first serve with no oversight.

Posted by: sockamster, gator at March 27, 2023 12:09 PM (MLrvz)

19 hey are all, UNIFORMLY, grifters and scammers in DC.

+++
Yes, and Ukraine seems to figure in this as well. I imagine the pensioners we are supporting over there with our billions of tax dollars may have some inside info about this.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 27, 2023 12:09 PM (Y+l9t)

20 ... never had a contract to fight with the Legions of Ukraine, their foreign volunteer outfit.

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I read that as "Legends of Ukraine" -- manufactured online courtesy of World War Reddit.

Posted by: ShainS -- The Abolition of The West is from Men Without Chests at March 27, 2023 12:09 PM (4a9Oj)

21 Is there no Ghost of Kiev ref in there?

Posted by: garrett at March 27, 2023 12:09 PM (9KI8h)

22 Corporate records in Poland and the U.S. show that Colonel Rawlings also started a for-profit company called Iron Forge. In an interview, he said he expected his charity and others to pay Iron Forge for transportation, meaning donor money would be used to finance his private venture. But he said no conflict of interest existed because Iron Forge would ultimately send money back to the charities. Details are being worked out, he said.
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He clearly lacks the charisma and subtlety needed to run Enron-style schemes.

Jeff Skilling, this guy ain't.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 27, 2023 12:09 PM (t0OGg)

23 Phony as a Trump prosecution.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 27, 2023 12:10 PM (FVME7)

24 Kelly's Heroes > Ripleys heroes

Posted by: 2009Refugee at March 27, 2023 12:10 PM (7Q4Jc)

25 13 "Ripley's Heroes."

Believe it or not.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 27, 2023 12:07 PM (DlOzp)

Kelly’s Heroes >>>> Ripley’s Heroes

Posted by: browndog on his cell at March 27, 2023 12:10 PM (CCSxw)

26 So Kinzinger started by endorsing a fake soldier and would up endorsing a fake armament "charity."
In fact, he was on the board of advisors of "Ripley's Heroes."
++++
Typical. Entirely, laughably typical.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 27, 2023 12:10 PM (t0OGg)

27 When money flows the grifters gather.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 27, 2023 12:10 PM (yQpMk)

28 It is sh&t like this that makes me wonder what is DeSantis' motive.

Posted by: Jamaica NYC at March 27, 2023 12:10 PM (7Us0n)

29 Kelly's heroes were very up front about only being in it for the money.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at March 27, 2023 12:10 PM (7Q4Jc)

30 this is prob the difference between gop and dnc. if i wanted to run as a fake lib democrat in a safe blue district, the dnc would fight tooth and nail and have a vetting process. it looks like every safe gop district is first come, first serve with no oversight.
Posted by: sockamster, gator

Courtesy of dogshit GOPe at every state-level.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 27, 2023 12:10 PM (DlOzp)

31 He's the opposite of "public servant".

Posted by: gourmand du jour at March 27, 2023 12:11 PM (jTmQV)

32 I think Kinzingers real problem is that he is dumb and emotional. Easy to manipulate, so he is.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at March 27, 2023 12:11 PM (FCbAQ)

33 This is gonna make Kinzinger cry. Quit picking on Kinzinger. You'll make Liz Chaney mad.

Posted by: Pudinhead at March 27, 2023 12:11 PM (Iv+w0)

34 This is one reason I say to never donate to anyone ever.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

At least, until people start donating to me.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 27, 2023 12:11 PM (esk9b)

35 do they put weasels in jail or in little cages

Posted by: REDACTED at March 27, 2023 12:11 PM (us2H3)

36 In his defense, Adam is very stupid.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 27, 2023 12:11 PM (u73oe)

37 Courtesy of dogshit GOPe at every state-level.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin F

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I guess having dedicated local dnc machines is a benefit of direction trillions of dollars into fake NGO's that are basically the dnc while the GOP would never stoop to such a level.

Posted by: sockamster, gator at March 27, 2023 12:12 PM (MLrvz)

38 do they put weasels in jail or in little cages

Posted by: REDACTED at March 27, 2023 12:11 PM (us2H3)

in elected office

Posted by: BignJames at March 27, 2023 12:12 PM (AwYPR)

39 Ripley? Vasquez?

Anyone see the movie Aliens?
Posted by: insurgens ad opus at March 27, 2023 12:05 PM

I doubt Kinzinger has ever been mistaken for a man.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 27, 2023 12:12 PM (5Y5oe)

40 It is sh&t like this that makes me wonder what is DeSantis' motive.

Posted by: Jamaica NYC

There is no subject too irrelevant that an OTer won't use it to attack DeSantis.

Posted by: Archimedes at March 27, 2023 12:12 PM (eOEVl)

41 In his defense, Adam is very stupid.
Posted by: Duke Lowel

///

he's not wrong

Posted by: sockamster, gator at March 27, 2023 12:12 PM (MLrvz)

42 The real mystery of our times is how did Ukraine, an old soviet backwater not known for anything except old Nazi SS guards, prostitutes and borscht, become the epicenter of money laundering, graft and corruption?

Very Strange.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 27, 2023 12:13 PM (GlyUK)

43 Let's say you fill out your tax forms incorrectly.
Try using "I'm stupid" as your defense.
Let me know how that pans out...

Posted by: gourmand du jour at March 27, 2023 12:13 PM (jTmQV)

44 do they put weasels in jail or in little cages
Posted by: REDACTED at March 27, 2023 12:11 PM (us2H3)

Weasel's in jail? I knew that his "found" goat would do him in.

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at March 27, 2023 12:13 PM (AiZBA)

45 Kelly's heroes were very up front about only being in it for the money.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at March 27, 2023 12:10 PM (7Q4Jc)

Well, the tank's broke and they're trying to fix it.

Posted by: Archer at March 27, 2023 12:13 PM (gmo/4)

46 Good. Lock him up.

Posted by: that guy at March 27, 2023 12:13 PM (iayUP)

47 It is sh&t like this that makes me wonder what is DeSantis' motive.

Posted by: Jamaica NYC

Maybe he's a patriot and wants it stopped?

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 27, 2023 12:13 PM (Y+l9t)

48 In his defense, Adam is very stupid.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 27, 2023 12:11 PM (u73oe)
++++
Stupidity's no excuse.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 27, 2023 12:14 PM (t0OGg)

49 In Kinzinger's defense, hiring pool-boy cuckolds isn't cheap, especially in this market.

Posted by: Dr. T at March 27, 2023 12:14 PM (bhRsz)

50 Is there no Ghost of Kiev ref in there?
Posted by: garrett

Sounds like Vasquez is Chicken Kiev.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 27, 2023 12:14 PM (esk9b)

51 Weasel's in jail? I knew that his "found" goat would do him in.
Posted by: Napoleon XIV at March 27, 2023 12:13 PM

It was wearing a wire, wasn't it? Damned goats...

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 27, 2023 12:14 PM (5Y5oe)

52 Stupidity's no excuse.
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Seems to work for Obama, Biden and Fetterman.

Posted by: Pudinhead at March 27, 2023 12:15 PM (Iv+w0)

53 Don't worry Ace, the money's fake, too.

Posted by: Oschisms at March 27, 2023 12:15 PM (0A5+1)

54 It is sh&t like this that makes me wonder what is DeSantis' motive.

Posted by: Jamaica NYC

Maybe he's a patriot and wants it stopped?
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 27, 2023 12:13 PM (Y+l9t)

I want to believe that. Teaming up with Rove & Ass. makes it harder to believe.

Posted by: Catherine at March 27, 2023 12:15 PM (ZSsrh)

55 Kinzinger endorses anything fake having to do with Ukraine, so he also endorsed an organization called "Ripley's Heroes," ...

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"Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?"

Posted by: ShainS -- The Abolition of The West is from Men Without Chests at March 27, 2023 12:15 PM (4a9Oj)

56 I hope Weasel can post bail.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 27, 2023 12:15 PM (DlOzp)

57 Ripley? Vasquez?

Anyone see the movie Aliens?

Everyone knows there were no female action heroes before 2015.

Posted by: Ian S. at March 27, 2023 12:15 PM (ZGrMX)

58 What's up with the too-tight clothes in the bottom pic?

Posted by: Jordan61 at March 27, 2023 12:15 PM (DRSnL)

59 There's been a shooting at an elementary school in Nashville. Multiple victims.

Posted by: redridinghood at March 27, 2023 12:15 PM (NpAcC)

60
Ugh.

Clown World is becoming Scam World.

Next Stop...Zero Trust Society.

Posted by: naturalfake at March 27, 2023 12:16 PM (mm6iK)

61 Stupidity's no excuse.
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Seems to work for Obama, Biden and Fetterman.

Once again, you aren't positioning me for success!

Posted by: Kamalalala at March 27, 2023 12:16 PM (gmo/4)

62 As always, the claims about Trump by people like Kinzinger are 100% projection.

Posted by: Jay in PA at March 27, 2023 12:16 PM (i7Q7S)

63 Anyone see the movie Aliens?

Yeah, that was my immediate thought. Someone’s being trolled here.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at March 27, 2023 12:16 PM (EXyHK)

64 Weasel is friends with Bluebell. He’ll be fine.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 27, 2023 12:16 PM (u73oe)

65 Ripley's Heroes broke into a bank and took the gold.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 27, 2023 12:16 PM (63Dwl)

66 42 The real mystery of our times is how did Ukraine, an old soviet backwater not known for anything except old Nazi SS guards, prostitutes and borscht, become the epicenter of money laundering, graft and corruption?

Very Strange.
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Ukraine, literally, means borderlands in Russian. Always has and always will.

Posted by: Pudinhead at March 27, 2023 12:16 PM (Iv+w0)

67 No flame. Vasquez is a gay porn actor. A twink.

Posted by: Thesokorus at March 27, 2023 12:16 PM (+ztnv)

68 It's PsyOps all the way down ...

Posted by: ShainS -- The Abolition of The West is from Men Without Chests at March 27, 2023 12:17 PM (4a9Oj)

69 What I want to know is, what the fuck is the attraction of KEEEEV and the dick-pianist for people like Kinzinger? I get it for Biden, who's laundering money through there, and the CIA, which has operated it as a front country since 2014. But what's Adam getting out of it?

Posted by: Ian S. at March 27, 2023 12:17 PM (ZGrMX)

70 I probably meant Ghost of Endor...
just, without my coffee.

Posted by: garrett at March 27, 2023 12:17 PM (9KI8h)

71 It wasn't me!

Posted by: WeaselGoat at March 27, 2023 12:17 PM (Xrfse)

72 "Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?"
Posted by: ShainS -- The Abolition of The West is from Men Without Chests at March 27, 2023 12:15 PM (4a9Oj)

Oddball beating the beatniks to the beat by 15 years there. Great character though

Posted by: OneEyedJack at March 27, 2023 12:17 PM (FCbAQ)

73 grifter

Posted by: rhennigantx at March 27, 2023 12:17 PM (BRHaw)

74 Gonzalo Lira outed Vasquez almost a year ago.

https://tinyurl.com/7nnx967r

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at March 27, 2023 12:18 PM (iKFmR)

75 What's up with the too-tight clothes in the bottom pic?
Posted by: Jordan61

Hand me downs....

Posted by: JT at March 27, 2023 12:18 PM (T4tVD)

76 To a New Yorker like you, a hero is some type of weird sammich, not some nut who takes on three tigers.

Posted by: Archer at March 27, 2023 12:19 PM (gmo/4)

77 For if it profit, none dare call it Profiteering.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at March 27, 2023 12:20 PM (2LaDS)

78 This is how I know the Ukrainian supporters and Ukraine are the real Leftists. They are embracing International Brigades. Volunteers based on political philosophy. Only Leftists do that.

Posted by: polynikes at March 27, 2023 12:20 PM (9A3LN)

79 I find it incredible that those who are the most rabidly anti-Trump are also pathetically inept and sketchy.

Posted by: Seems Legit at March 27, 2023 12:20 PM (DcKNO)

80
15104...

yeah

Posted by: John Fetterman at March 27, 2023 12:20 PM (vwCZJ)

81 "shooting at an elementary school in Nashville. Multiple victims."

shooter killed by police, multiple "patients".

Posted by: illiniwek at March 27, 2023 12:20 PM (Cus5s)

82 Paul Massaro, a US government employee and a rabid-pro Ukraine supporter with 370,000 followers on Twitter, who is normally incessantly Tweeting about reducing Russia to its 1500 AD boundaries and similar topics, hasn't Tweeted since this news broke.

I wonder if there is a connection.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 27, 2023 12:20 PM (2tUFv)

83 I want to believe that. Teaming up with Rove & Ass. makes it harder to believe.

Can you provide a link to this "teaming up"?

Posted by: Archimedes at March 27, 2023 12:20 PM (eOEVl)

84 And here you have the entire reason why saving Ukraine's bacon is Priority Number One (according to the DC corruptocrats).
There is no limit to the amount of treasure, hardware and yes, blood (yours, not theirs) that the corrupted politicians will spill on the ground in order to save their filthy hides.
But the truth will out. It's happening right now.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at March 27, 2023 12:21 PM (jTmQV)

85 69 What I want to know is, what the fuck is the attraction of KEEEEV and the dick-pianist for people like Kinzinger?
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Kiev is nice. I prefer Odessa. The women are smoking fucking hawt!

Posted by: Pudinhead at March 27, 2023 12:21 PM (Iv+w0)

86 You can be sure Kinzinger will be crying about this revelation.

Posted by: Seems Legit at March 27, 2023 12:21 PM (DcKNO)

87 They are embracing International Brigades. Volunteers based on political philosophy. Only Leftists do that.

Hi there!

Posted by: The Foreign Units of the SS! at March 27, 2023 12:21 PM (2tUFv)

88 Guarantee Kinzinger watched that dude bone his wife

Posted by: ballistic at March 27, 2023 12:21 PM (oXNqT)

89 Why aren’t the powers that be demanding both sides get to the negotiating table?

In the words of Dave Mustaine, “Peace sells, but no one’s buying.”

Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 27, 2023 12:21 PM (u73oe)

90 It is sh&t like this that makes me wonder what is DeSantis' motive.

Wut?

Posted by: Diesel Jones, Biologist at March 27, 2023 12:21 PM (Vu7A1)

91 Oddball beating the beatniks to the beat by 15 years there. Great character though
Posted by: OneEyedJack at March 27, 2023 12:17 PM (FCbAQ)

Reefer Madness was made in 1936. Just saying.

Posted by: polynikes at March 27, 2023 12:21 PM (9A3LN)

92 76 To a New Yorker like you, a hero is some type of weird sammich, not some nut who takes on three tigers.
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Tell that to Soros.

Posted by: Pudinhead at March 27, 2023 12:22 PM (Iv+w0)

93 This is how I know the Ukrainian supporters and Ukraine are the real Leftists. They are embracing International Brigades. Volunteers based on political philosophy. Only Leftists do that.

Posted by: polynikes

Shades of 1936.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 27, 2023 12:22 PM (lTGtQ)

94 more on Tennessee school shooting

https://tinyurl.com/yck9cb2n

Posted by: rd at March 27, 2023 12:22 PM (Z32m1)

95 I am horrified to hear that I man I so deeply respected, Adam Kinzinger, was a traitor to this country on par with that arch-demon Trump.

I vow that once I'm returned to government service that I will spare no expense in fully investigating this outrage.

In the meantime, please consider donating to the very worthwhile charity, Meals for Cheneys, and hurry it up... I haven't had a bit in almost an hour.

Posted by: Liz! at March 27, 2023 12:23 PM (1Z8zZ)

96 83 I want to believe that. Teaming up with Rove & Ass. makes it harder to believe.

Can you provide a link to this "teaming up"?

CTH: https://tinyurl.com/yxj7mxee

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at March 27, 2023 12:23 PM (iKFmR)

97 Maybe he's a patriot and wants it stopped?
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 27, 2023 12:13 PM (Y+l9t)

I want to believe that. Teaming up with Rove & Ass. makes it harder to believe.

Posted by: Catherine

Archimedes beat me to it but I have the same question. Is there any proof of this? Or is it another piece of propoganda put out by the leftist media repeated so many times, it becomes a fact?

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 27, 2023 12:24 PM (Y+l9t)

98 generally, I don't trust veterans who wear it on their sleeves too much just like I don't trust companies that use Jesus as a marketing tool.

Posted by: x at March 27, 2023 12:24 PM (ZBPE2)

99 Ukraine, literally, means borderlands in Russian. Always has and always will.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 27, 2023 12:16 PM (Iv+w0)

Ah! Did not know that....Thanks Pudinhead!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 27, 2023 12:24 PM (GlyUK)

100 Ace, speaking of U.S. sponsored color revolutions:

(February 17, 2023 / JNS) The Movement for Quality Government (MQG) in Israel is the far-left organization at the epicenter of the Israeli left’s war against the Netanyahu government.. But under the law, all registered nonprofits are required to report funding they receive from foreign governments. So MQG’s only named donor on its annual reports is the U.S. State Department.

According to MQG’s annual reports, for the past three years the State Department has been funding its programs for “democracy education” in Israeli high schools. Since MQG’s primary activity is subverting democracy in Israel by waging lawfare and sowing chaos in a bid to block democratically elected right-wing governments from fulfilling their pledges to voters, it’s fairly clear that when MQG refers to “democracy education,” it doesn’t mean majority rule.

https://tinyurl.com/2zpe67p3

Posted by: NISTdot gov: office chairs, not jet fuel or impact, caused perfect simultaneous collapse of WTC7 at March 27, 2023 12:24 PM (95YDO)

101 What I want to know is, what the fuck is the attraction of KEEEEV and the dick-pianist for people like Kinzinger?
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Kiev is nice. I prefer Odessa. The women are smoking fucking hawt!
Posted by: Pudinhead

Odessa sucks. Midland is ok.

Amarillo is where it's at.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 27, 2023 12:24 PM (esk9b)

102 Guarantee Kinzinger watched that dude bone his wife
Posted by: ballistic at March 27, 2023 12:21 PM (oXNqT)

More like his wife watched that dude bone him.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 27, 2023 12:24 PM (1Z8zZ)

103
6 Ripley? Vasquez?

Anyone see the movie Aliens?
Posted by: insurgens ad opus at March 27, 2023 12:05 PM (7GSJF)

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What are you suggesting? That the names look made up? That's delusional.

Posted by: Ripley's Treasurer Hugh G. Rection at March 27, 2023 12:24 PM (aUuI8)

104 Posted by: The Foreign Units of the SS! at March 27, 2023 12:21 PM (2tUFv)

First National Socialist Leftist SS psychopaths.
Second they served the Nazis in their own country.

Posted by: polynikes at March 27, 2023 12:25 PM (9A3LN)

105 more on Tennessee school shooting

https://tinyurl.com/yck9cb2n
Posted by: rd at March 27, 2023 12:22 PM (Z32m1)

heard there was a shooting in Denver last week...then it went away.

Posted by: BignJames at March 27, 2023 12:25 PM (AwYPR)

106 I don't believe the Conservative Treehouse is a trusted source any longer and your link didn;t work.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 27, 2023 12:25 PM (Y+l9t)

107 More like his wife watched that dude bone him.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 27, 2023 12:24 PM (1Z8zZ)

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Concur.

Posted by: Seems Legit at March 27, 2023 12:25 PM (DcKNO)

108 99 Ukraine, literally, means borderlands in Russian. Always has and always will.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 27, 2023 12:16 PM (Iv+w0)

Ah! Did not know that....Thanks Pudinhead!
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Your welcome. Lots of shit has been going on in and around the Black Sea for shit ton of time. Just ask Jason from Argos or Noah.

Posted by: Pudinhead at March 27, 2023 12:25 PM (Iv+w0)

109 Oddball beating the beatniks to the beat by 15 years there. Great character though
Posted by: OneEyedJack at March 27, 2023 12:17 PM (FCbAQ)

Always with the negative waves, Moriarty.

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at March 27, 2023 12:26 PM (OgrpQ)

110 more on Tennessee school shooting

https://tinyurl.com/yck9cb2n
Posted by: rd at March 27, 2023 12:22 PM (Z32m1)

It sounds like the police actually engaged and killed the shooter instead of standing around with their thumbs up their butts like those cowardly police in Uvalde, Texas.

Good for them.

Posted by: naturalfake at March 27, 2023 12:26 PM (mm6iK)

111 Add to the constantly growing, already sky-high stack titled:
"The reason the whole of the left is so adamantly sure Trump is dirty is because they are acutely aware of how so very, very corrupt that they themselves are. "

I mean, every time you hear one of them go on, the stink of corruption just oozes from them so bad you can smell it through your TV

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at March 27, 2023 12:26 PM (1SUOz)

112 I wonder if Bill and the Bushies are teaming up
to stop Obama Mao? Meh, been there done that.
It was 80 years to the start of CW1 and another 100 or so until the South integrated into Northern commercialism, so, this ride has just started

Posted by: Jamaica NYC at March 27, 2023 12:26 PM (fED8D)

113 New blues singer with an old face.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MzUVOHoYmGE

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 27, 2023 12:26 PM (FVME7)

114 Odessa sucks. Midland is ok.

Amarillo is where it's at.
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Odessa, TX, was named after Odessa, Ukraine, because it was the largest and most modern grain shipping port in the world.

Posted by: Pudinhead at March 27, 2023 12:27 PM (Iv+w0)

115 generally, I don't trust veterans who wear it on their sleeves too much just like I don't trust companies that use Jesus as a marketing tool.

A Vietnam vet friend of mine refers to "professional Vietnam veterans".

Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 27, 2023 12:27 PM (2tUFv)

116 Does Kitzinger do anything that isn't complete fraud? He's always on the wrong side of things.

Posted by: Miss Issippi at March 27, 2023 12:28 PM (sI15f)

117 Can you provide a link to this "teaming up"?

CTH: https://tinyurl.com/yxj7mxee

Yeah, that's what I thought. So one talk radio host makes a completely unsupported assertion. Good enough for me!!!

Posted by: Archimedes at March 27, 2023 12:28 PM (eOEVl)

118 I don't believe the Conservative Treehouse is a trusted source any longer and your link didn;t work.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 27, 2023 12:25 PM (Y+l9t)

It's a guy, neither Rove nor DeSantis, saying that Rove is secretly directing D's campaign and coaching him to be more presidential.

Might be true, might not. I wouldn't know.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 27, 2023 12:28 PM (yQpMk)

119 more on Tennessee school shooting

https://tinyurl.com/yck9cb2n
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heard there was a shooting in Denver last week...then it went away.

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Someone compiled a picture of all mass shooters from 2021 here. Spoilers- it's exactly what you'd expect.

https://tinyurl.com/2fuoe8fo

Posted by: NISTdot gov: office chairs, not jet fuel or impact, caused perfect simultaneous collapse of WTC7 at March 27, 2023 12:28 PM (95YDO)

120 Believe it....or not

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards (Logan Tiberius 2012-2021) at March 27, 2023 12:28 PM (xcxpd)

121 They are embracing International Brigades. Volunteers based on political philosophy. Only Leftists do that.

Hi there!
Posted by: The Foreign Units of the SS! at March 27, 2023 12:21 PM (2tUFv)

Nazis were the National Socialist German Workers Party.

So, I think you proved his point.

Posted by: rd at March 27, 2023 12:28 PM (Z32m1)

122 (February 17, 2023 / JNS) The Movement for Quality Government (MQG) in Israel is the far-left organization at the epicenter of the Israeli left’s war against the Netanyahu government.. But under the law, all registered nonprofits are required to report funding they receive from foreign governments. So MQG’s only named donor on its annual reports is the U.S. State Department. ...
Posted by: NISTdot gov: office chairs, not jet fuel or impact, caused perfect simultaneous collapse of WTC7 at March 27, 2023 12:24 PM (95YDO)
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I've never heard of the organization, but the fact that it's a US State Department cut-out gives me no reason to disbelieve that it's doing wrong, bad things at all times.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 27, 2023 12:29 PM (t0OGg)

123 106 I don't believe the Conservative Treehouse is a trusted source any longer and your link didn;t work.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 27, 2023 12:25 PM (Y+l9t)

The link works fine. Try again ... but then you probably don't care to bother.

Sundance at CTH has some problems but not a "trusted source" seems a bit extreme.

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at March 27, 2023 12:29 PM (iKFmR)

124 Kinzinger seemed like such a sweet and sincere little guy What with all the crying.

Posted by: That Northern skulker at March 27, 2023 12:30 PM (eGTCV)

125 Adam is a bad guy

Posted by: Skip at March 27, 2023 12:30 PM (ek0ng)

126 Nothing would make me happier than seeing Kinzinger in pound-you-in-the-ass-prison.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at March 27, 2023 12:30 PM (d2bW3)

127 Does Kitzinger do anything that isn't complete fraud? He's always on the wrong side of things.

And he claims that he's no longer in Congress because he bravely stood up to Trump.

In reality, his Democrat buddies in Illinois redistricted his district out of existence, so he didn't even bother to run for reelection.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 27, 2023 12:30 PM (2tUFv)

128 What are you suggesting? That the names look made up? That's delusional.
Posted by: Ripley's Treasurer Hugh G. Rection

Those names are as real as my pronouns.

Posted by: Ima Hogg, Transformer at March 27, 2023 12:31 PM (Vu7A1)

129 Nothing would make me happier than seeing Kinzinger in pound-you-in-the-ass-prison.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at March 27, 2023 12:30 PM (d2bW3)
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It won't happen. He's ruling class. Our rulers don't go to jail. They're above the law.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 27, 2023 12:31 PM (t0OGg)

130 >> Nothing would make me happier than seeing Kinzinger in pound-you-in-the-ass-prison.

You and Adam have something in common!

Posted by: garrett at March 27, 2023 12:31 PM (9KI8h)

131 Lots of people cry once they discover they've sold their souls so cheaply.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at March 27, 2023 12:31 PM (jTmQV)

132 Adam is a bad guy
Posted by: Skip at March 27, 2023 12:30 PM (ek0ng)

Boy, you eat one apple...

Posted by: Warai-otoko at March 27, 2023 12:31 PM (/EuRN)

133 After lying through his effing teeth and encouraging bad faith testimony in the Jan 6th debacle, I'm glad to see little, crying, Adam is getting a small portion of what he deserves.

Posted by: Seems Legit at March 27, 2023 12:31 PM (DcKNO)

134 >>Odessa sucks. Midland is ok.
Amarillo is where it's at.

Abilene is the prettiest town I ever seen.

Posted by: George Hamilton at March 27, 2023 12:31 PM (qXxi9)

135 Someone compiled a picture of all mass shooters from 2021 here. Spoilers- it's exactly what you'd expect.

https://tinyurl.com/2fuoe8fo
Posted by: NISTdot gov

Not too many looking like my 60 yr old pasty white ass.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 27, 2023 12:32 PM (esk9b)

136 Adam is a bad guy
Posted by: Skip at March 27, 2023 12:30 PM (ek0ng)
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How do you figure? The guy sacrificed part of his anatomy so that women could be created!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 27, 2023 12:32 PM (t0OGg)

137 so he also endorsed an organization called "Ripley's Heroes,"

I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure

Posted by: Ellen Ripley at March 27, 2023 12:32 PM (xttsV)

138 Adam is a bad guy
Posted by: Skip

You can distinguish him from Biblical Adam because Biblical.Adam had shame.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 27, 2023 12:32 PM (FVME7)

139 Willowed: Read: Empire of the Summer Moon: Quanah Parker and the Rise and Fall of the Comanches, the Most Powerful Indian Tribe in American History
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 27, 2023

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I did on a road trip to Palo Duro Canyon, their territory and winter quarters, in 2014. That book was where I picked up the startling fact that the Apaches, some of the most terrifying warriors and raiders in history, were afraid of the Comanches.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 27, 2023 12:32 PM (J2vNu)

140 22 Corporate records in Poland and the U.S. show that Colonel Rawlings also started a for-profit company called Iron Forge. In an interview, he said he expected his charity and others to pay Iron Forge for transportation, meaning donor money would be used to finance his private venture. But he said no conflict of interest existed because Iron Forge would ultimately send money back to the charities. Details are being worked out, he said.
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He clearly lacks the charisma and subtlety needed to run Enron-style schemes.

Jeff Skilling, this guy ain't.
Posted by: Joe Mannix
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This is what is going on with non-profits of all stripes--what has happened is that this part of the economy has become a large part of the economy and a prime source for grifting and political mischief.

Easiest way to fix this is to remove the for profit and non profit categories and make the non profit firms pay taxes on earnings just like for profits.

Posted by: whig at March 27, 2023 12:32 PM (jOFQQ)

141 124 Kinzinger seemed like such a sweet and sincere little guy What with all the crying.

God, what a fag.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at March 27, 2023 12:33 PM (qVln6)

142 >>Someone compiled a picture of all mass shooters from 2021 here. Spoilers- it's exactly what you'd expect.

Racist. I don't even have to click on this to know how racist it is.

Posted by: garrett at March 27, 2023 12:33 PM (9KI8h)

143 Odessa sucks. Midland is ok.
Amarillo is where it's at.

Abilene is the prettiest town I ever seen.
Posted by: George Hamilton

Amarillo by morning. Up from San Antone.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 27, 2023 12:33 PM (esk9b)

144 This asshole isn't Ruling Class. He's a hanger on. He's a patsy. He's a marginally useful schnook to the Ruling Class.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at March 27, 2023 12:33 PM (/EuRN)

145 Willowed: Read: Empire of the Summer Moon: Quanah Parker and the Rise and Fall of the Comanches, the Most Powerful Indian Tribe in American History
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 27, 2023

AoH: I just ordered the Kindle version. Thanks.

Posted by: Archimedes at March 27, 2023 12:33 PM (eOEVl)

146 Mass shooting at Christian school in Nashville. 2 dead + shooter.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 27, 2023 12:33 PM (DMyTF)

147 Kinzinger will face the same punishment as Jon Corzine got

OH The Horror! But, wait ...wut?

Posted by: Paladin at March 27, 2023 12:34 PM (7qvpm)

148 I've never heard of the organization, but the fact that it's a US State Department cut-out gives me no reason to disbelieve that it's doing wrong, bad things at all times.

It is an absolute principle of democratic governance that you have to allow NGOs funded by foreign governments to massively interfere in your elections and politics.

If you don't allow that, like Hungary, you are by definition a fascist state.

Posted by: Victoria Nuland! at March 27, 2023 12:34 PM (2tUFv)

149 >>Odessa sucks. Midland is ok.
Amarillo is where it's at.

Abilene is the prettiest town I ever seen.
Posted by: George Hamilton at March 27, 2023 12:31 PM (qXxi9)

Out in the West Texas town of El Paso, I fell in love with a Mexican girl.

Posted by: Marty Robbins at March 27, 2023 12:34 PM (yQpMk)

150 I hear that you can get a guy to withhold a billion dollars to get the prosecutor fired and clear the whole mess up. Kind of SOP at this point, I figure. Not sure his name, just call him "The Big Guy" and make sure you get him his 10%. Easy, peasy.

Posted by: Croaker at March 27, 2023 12:34 PM (3QKFd)

151 Not surprised, the dude fell for a photoshop of "Samuyil Hyde" being the Ghost of KeEeEeEeEeV.

Posted by: ptschett at March 27, 2023 12:34 PM (zB+vL)

152 Ghost of Tsushima > Ghost of Kiev

Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 27, 2023 12:34 PM (up/3i)

153 144 This asshole isn't Ruling Class. He's a hanger on. He's a patsy. He's a marginally useful schnook to the Ruling Class.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at March 27, 2023 12:33 PM (/EuRN)

Those words are hurtful.

Posted by: Brian Stelter at March 27, 2023 12:34 PM (PiwSw)

154 Sundance at CTH has some problems but not a "trusted source" seems a bit extreme.
Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know
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Ace doesn't like Sundance based on prior comments and regards him/her as spinning tales about DeSantis. That may be what she is referring to.

Posted by: whig at March 27, 2023 12:34 PM (jOFQQ)

155 This is what is going on with non-profits of all stripes--what has happened is that this part of the economy has become a large part of the economy and a prime source for grifting and political mischief.

Easiest way to fix this is to remove the for profit and non profit categories and make the non profit firms pay taxes on earnings just like for profits.
Posted by: whig at March 27, 2023 12:32 PM (jOFQQ)
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I am in favor of eliminating non-profits at this point. The hypothetical value cannot surpass the real-world problems.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 27, 2023 12:35 PM (t0OGg)

156 Odessa sucks. Midland is ok.
Amarillo is where it's at.

Abilene is the prettiest town I ever seen.
Posted by: George Hamilton

Amarillo by morning. Up from San Antone. [i/]

Flagstaff Arizona
Don't forget Winona
Kingman
Barstow
SAN BERNADINO!

Posted by: Archimedes at March 27, 2023 12:35 PM (eOEVl)

157 134 >>Odessa sucks. Midland is ok.
Amarillo is where it's at.
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I never stopped for the Free Steak in Amarillo. BTW, the worst steak I've ever eaten was in Texas.

Posted by: Pudinhead at March 27, 2023 12:35 PM (Iv+w0)

158 Can you provide a link to this "teaming up"?

CTH: https://tinyurl.com/yxj7mxee

Yeah, that's what I thought. So one talk radio host makes a completely unsupported assertion. Good enough for me!!!

Posted by: Archimedes

Kurt Schlicter has been posting about this for awhile. Twitterers keep alluding to this over and over trying to make it a thing. Saying it over nad over doesn't make it true.
Pitting us against each other isn't helping.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 27, 2023 12:35 PM (Y+l9t)

159 Adam is a bad guy
Posted by: Skip

How do you figure? The guy sacrificed part of his anatomy so that women could be created!
Posted by: Joe Mannix

But it was a rib. A cheaper cut.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 27, 2023 12:35 PM (esk9b)

160 Racist. I don't even have to click on this to know how racist it is.
Posted by: garrett at March 27, 2023 12:33 PM (9KI8h)

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Is this sarcasm? With every weird thing becoming a reality, my sarcasm meter is broken.

Posted by: Seems Legit at March 27, 2023 12:35 PM (DcKNO)

161 Bet he took a paycheck too.

Just like Hunter!

Posted by: Steven Fletcher at March 27, 2023 12:35 PM (+eUEt)

162

Posted by: Archimedes at March 27, 2023 12:35 PM (eOEVl)

163 Someone compiled a picture of all mass shooters from 2021 here. Spoilers- it's exactly what you'd expect.

https://tinyurl.com/2fuoe8fo
Posted by: NISTdot gov

That can't be right. I didn't see a single MAGA hat.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 27, 2023 12:35 PM (FVME7)

164 This asshole isn't Ruling Class. He's a hanger on. He's a patsy. He's a marginally useful schnook to the Ruling Class.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at March 27, 2023 12:33 PM (/EuRN)
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Yet he gets the benefits of being in the ruling class, including immunity to all laws.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 27, 2023 12:35 PM (t0OGg)

165 Kinzinger is from my district, (or was; I think they changed the map out from under him.) It was a choice between Adam K Douche and Commie Shit Sandwich, so we settled for douche. Sorry.

Posted by: gp Of Mayberry at March 27, 2023 12:36 PM (MvF+J)

166 So this LtCol Rip Rawlings is a grifter?

Posted by: mr tmz at March 27, 2023 12:36 PM (rJ48h)

167 AoH: I just ordered the Kindle version. Thanks.

It's a good book.

The Comanche historically had been kicked around by neighboring tribes.

Then horses showed up, the Comanche gazed at the horses, and something clicked.

Posted by: Victoria Nuland! at March 27, 2023 12:36 PM (2tUFv)

168 LTC Rip Rawlings???!
BWAHAHAHAHA!!!
That bullshit name is right out of central casting for some B movie.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 27, 2023 12:36 PM (anj39)

169 141 124 Kinzinger seemed like such a sweet and sincere little guy What with all the crying.

God, what a fag.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at March 27, 2023 12:33 PM (qVln6)

Those words are also hurtful.

Posted by: Brian Stelter at March 27, 2023 12:36 PM (PiwSw)

170 Just noticed Kinzinger's eyes in that head shot. One eye looks up; one eye looks down. Very Interesting.

Posted by: Miss Issippi at March 27, 2023 12:36 PM (sI15f)

171 >>Is this sarcasm? With every weird thing becoming a reality, my sarcasm meter is broken.

Yes. And. No.

Sadly.

Posted by: garrett at March 27, 2023 12:36 PM (9KI8h)

172 DeSantis People are in for a very rude awakening.

or not.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) can assert with the best of 'em at March 27, 2023 12:37 PM (yQpMk)

173 Kiev is nice. I prefer Odessa. The women are smoking fucking hawt!

I doubt Kinzinger cares about hawt women.

Posted by: Ian S. at March 27, 2023 12:37 PM (ZGrMX)

174 >>Then horses showed up, the Comanche gazed at the horses, and something clicked.

Hint. It was unrelated to Geometry and Physics.

Posted by: The Circle and the Wheel at March 27, 2023 12:38 PM (9KI8h)

175 >>Then horses showed up, the Comanche gazed at the horses, and something clicked.

"We can tie our Drag Sticks to those things!"

Posted by: garrett at March 27, 2023 12:39 PM (9KI8h)

176 I am in favor of eliminating non-profits at this point. The hypothetical value cannot surpass the real-world problems.

Big tax-exempt foundations run by left-wing administrators are doing enormous damage to the United States.

This includes universities.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 27, 2023 12:39 PM (2tUFv)

177 Archimedes, don't know if you saw this at the end of the last thread, re: the changes in indian hunting methods and the decline of bison:

Interesting. Can you recommend a book?

Posted by: Archimedes

Probably the most decisive commentary was by Dan Flores called The Great Contraction, which is part of a symposium book on of all things, the battle of Little Bighorn called "Legacy, New Perspectives on the Little Bighorn." Also, The Buffalo, by Francis Haines, and The Commanche Empire, by Pekka Hamalainen, who is a professor at UC.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 27, 2023 12:03 PM

Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 27, 2023 12:39 PM (lTGtQ)

178 DeSantis People are in for a very rude awakening.

or not.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) can assert with the best of 'em

But I came here for an argument.

Posted by: Archimedes at March 27, 2023 12:39 PM (eOEVl)

179 Ace doesn't like Sundance based on prior comments and regards him/her as spinning tales about DeSantis. That may be what she is referring to.

Posted by: whig at March 27, 2023 12:34 PM (jOFQQ)

My reaction to Sundance's first anti-DeSantis post was negative. But Bannon has also noted DeSantis problems recently. Revolver posted a link to an NBC piece on DeSantis' donors this morning. I didn't bother dropping the NBC link because the donors named were unknown to me.

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at March 27, 2023 12:39 PM (iKFmR)

180 Then horses showed up, the Comanche gazed at the horses, and something clicked.

"Look at those horse dicks!" - Chief Sitting-on-Bull-Weiner, Obama's great-great-great grandfather

Posted by: Ian S. at March 27, 2023 12:39 PM (ZGrMX)

181 It's been 19 days without Mitch McConnell falling down and face planting.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 27, 2023 12:39 PM (DMyTF)

182 Thomas Paine at March 27, 2023 12:39 PM (lTGtQ)

I did. Thanks.

Posted by: Archimedes at March 27, 2023 12:40 PM (eOEVl)

183 Rove knows how to run a campaign no matter what you think of him otherwise. If DeSantis plans on running, which I still don't think he's going to do if Trump is running, Rove wouldn't be the worst choice as a campaign adviser.

Posted by: polynikes at March 27, 2023 12:40 PM (9A3LN)

184 It sounds like the police actually engaged and killed the shooter instead of standing around with their thumbs up their butts like those cowardly police in Uvalde, Texas.

Good for them.
Posted by: naturalfake at March 27, 2023 12:26 PM (mm6iK)

This tells me that the shooter didn't have an AR-15. No one can stand before one of those. Honestly, I'm surprised we haven't shipped one to Ukraine. Russia would surrender in 10 minutes.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 27, 2023 12:40 PM (1Z8zZ)

185 Well, I have to ask, who is Sundance?

*waits patiently to be embarrassed*

Posted by: Seems Legit at March 27, 2023 12:41 PM (DcKNO)

186 I have no beef with Sundance or whoever,. The discussion was about an appearance by someone I think named Mark Simone. He was on Fox News Business saying Rove and Team Bush are boosting DeSantis and DeSantis is employing Rove. I'd vote for DeSantis if he could stay away from that filth. If he can't, no deal. They allowed the Steal for a reason. If they're backing him, they think they can control him. I'm not yet convinced they can, but I'm not sure they can't either.

Posted by: Catherine at March 27, 2023 12:41 PM (ZSsrh)

187 Empire of the Summer Moon is a terrific read.

It's at its heart a story about a boy and his mother.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at March 27, 2023 12:41 PM (KiBMU)

188 Foreign Waffen-SS Units:
Albania = 8,000 Belgium = 18,000 Bulgaria = 700 Bohemian and Moravia = 77 Croatia = 17,000 Denmark = 6,000 Estonia = 20,000 Finland = 3,000 France = 9,000 Hungary = 20,000 India = 4,500 Italy = 15,000 Latvia = 60,000 Netherlands = 25,000 Norway = 6,000 Romania = 300,000 Serbia = 3,500
Spain = 300 Russia = 12,000 Sweden = 300 Switzerland = 1,300 Ukraine = 20,000
United Kingdom = 54 Iceland = 40

Posted by: Archer at March 27, 2023 12:41 PM (gmo/4)

189 I am in favor of eliminating non-profits at this point. The hypothetical value cannot surpass the real-world problems.

Big tax-exempt foundations run by left-wing administrators are doing enormous damage to the United States.

This includes universities.

Posted by: The ARC of History!

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The crazy part?

They were being investigated in the 50s for their role in anti-American activities around 1908. And this video is from the 80s.

https://tinyurl.com/n2svpep

Posted by: NISTdot gov: office chairs, not jet fuel or impact, caused perfect simultaneous collapse of WTC7 at March 27, 2023 12:41 PM (95YDO)

190 >> Rove knows how to run a campaign no matter what you think of him

Name his last National Stage Victory.

I'll wait.

Posted by: garrett at March 27, 2023 12:41 PM (9KI8h)

191 This tells me that the shooter didn't have an AR-15. No one can stand before one of those.

One shot can literally tear you in two.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 27, 2023 12:41 PM (yQpMk)

192 Odessa, TX, was named after Odessa, Ukraine, because it was the largest and most modern grain shipping port in the world.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 27, 2023 12:27 PM (Iv+w0)

Pretty sure Odessa, TX is inland.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 27, 2023 12:41 PM (1Z8zZ)

193 183 Rove knows how to run a campaign no matter what you think of him otherwise. If DeSantis plans on running, which I still don't think he's going to do if Trump is running, Rove wouldn't be the worst choice as a campaign adviser.
Posted by: polynikes at March 27, 2023 12:40 PM (9A3LN)

Question of competence aside, Rove is a poor choice due to his association with the Bushes and the establishment.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 27, 2023 12:41 PM (eYoxG)

194 Filed under "Math Iz Hardz": We don't have enough weapons to keep Ukraine supplied and us safe
https://tinyurl.com/82e8vfbm

The U.S. Naval Institute describes them as “dangerous” due to their low inventory levels. Even a U.S. Department of Defense official quoted by the Wall Street Journal admitted that munitions stockpiles are “uncomfortably low” in that they are “not at the level we would like to go into combat.” This official explained that the only reason the issue isn’t “critical” is because “the U.S. isn’t engaged in any major military conflict” at the moment.

The key problem, of course, as we reported, is that the administration’s official position is that, in the words of Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Army General Mark Milley, “we will continue to support [Ukraine] all the way” and “[w]e will be there for as long as it takes to keep Ukraine free,” despite the obvious impact of such support on U.S. weapons’ stockpile levels.

Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at March 27, 2023 12:42 PM (MFZ8i)

195 Report of another school shooting, Covenant elementary in Nashville. Three children dead and the shooter, multiple injuries.

Posted by: No Shirt Shylock at March 27, 2023 12:42 PM (PWI4f)

196 It sounds like the police actually engaged and killed the shooter instead of standing around with their thumbs up their butts like those cowardly police in Uvalde, Texas.

If you haven't seen, one of the Uvalde cops said they didn't go in because nobody stood a chance against an AR-15. This has been put into the latest NPC download for gun grabbers. "See? Even police are scared of those, they should be banned immediately".

Posted by: Ian S. at March 27, 2023 12:42 PM (ZGrMX)

197 Then horses showed up, the Comanche gazed at the horses, and something clicked.

"We can tie our Drag Sticks to those things!"
Posted by: garrett

I'll bet that Comanche wimmins figgered that out.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 27, 2023 12:42 PM (esk9b)

198 *waits patiently to be embarrassed*

Posted by: Seems Legit at March 27, 2023 12:41 PM (DcKNO)

Owner of CTH. Author of most (not quite all) the posts there.

He's a lawyer and has some contacts in DC but is based in FL.

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at March 27, 2023 12:42 PM (iKFmR)

199 > Last spring, a volunteer group called Ripley's Heroes said it had spent approximately $63,000 on night-vision and thermal optics. Some of the equipment was subject to American export restrictions because, in the wrong hands, it could give enemies a battlefield advantage.

Probably 20 years ago some of the latest generation NVGs went missing at Ft Lewis. They locked down the whole base to look for them. Nobody was allowed in or out for at least a couple of weeks. It was a big deal.

Posted by: bonhomme at March 27, 2023 12:42 PM (j2Xg6)

200 Flagstaff Arizona
Don't forget Winona
Kingman
Barstow
SAN BERNADINO!
Posted by: Archimedes at March 27, 2023 12:35 PM (eOEVl)

I don't know about the first two, but those last three places suck.

Posted by: Jordan61 at March 27, 2023 12:42 PM (DRSnL)

201 This busty blonde is skeptical of everything involving Ukraine:
https://is.gd/JxNHlH

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 27, 2023 12:42 PM (t0OGg)

202 That bit Vasquez told about 'taking out 7 Russian tanks' was the giveaway. I've been blessed to have known several real-deal war heroes. My platoon sergeant in the 82nd back in the day, Raleigh May, was awarded the DSC in Vietnam. Sergeant May never told war stories unless there was training value in it. "Were you scared?" we'd ask, like little kids.

"Shit yeah I was scared," he said. "It's how you deal with it and what you do while you're scared that matters."

Posted by: troyriser at March 27, 2023 12:42 PM (7Cx1V)

203 183 Rove knows how to run a campaign no matter what you think of him otherwise. If DeSantis plans on running, which I still don't think he's going to do if Trump is running, Rove wouldn't be the worst choice as a campaign adviser.
Posted by: polynikes at March 27, 2023 12:40 PM (9A3LN)

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If DeSantis has anything to do with Rove, he's fucking toast. Well, certainly to me. I don't give a shit how he runs a campaign. Trump ran with an unknown and won. There are other "advisors" DeSantis could use.

Posted by: Seems Legit at March 27, 2023 12:42 PM (DcKNO)

204 106 I don't believe the Conservative Treehouse is a trusted source any longer and your link didn;t work.
Posted by: sharon
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Link works (don't include the CTH: part). Take the substance for what it is worth but it is not Sundance saying this on the media but another guy.

Dunno whether true or not or to what extent if any that former Bushies are advising DeSantis.

I don't trust any conservative media TM to give me the true story on politics just as I don't trust mainstream media. Most of conservative media is paid for programming by oligarchs or megacorps and that includes PJ Media, Examiner, Beacon, NRO, and so forth. Then you have the Fox properties including the NY Post which reflect the voice of the Murdochs most clearly.

Sundance, is correct though in assessing that literally trillions of dollars is at stake and the GOP donor and political class hates its base and wants it turned into serfs or dead about as much the Dems do. Use that as a filter and you can maybe see some light in the darkness ahead of us.

Posted by: whig at March 27, 2023 12:43 PM (jOFQQ)

205 Question of competence aside, Rove is would be a poor choice due to his association with the Bushes and the establishment.

Agree with the revised statement.

Posted by: Archimedes at March 27, 2023 12:43 PM (eOEVl)

206 @185

>>Well, I have to ask, who is Sundance? *waits patiently to be embarrassed*

He ran with Cassidy's crew, met an untimely end in Bolivia.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 27, 2023 12:43 PM (up/3i)

207 Nothing would make me happier than seeing Kinzinger in pound-you-in-the-ass-prison.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at March 27, 2023 12:30 PM (d2bW3)

Nothing would make him happier.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 27, 2023 12:43 PM (1Z8zZ)

208 The Rivelino lines on that picture of Kinzinger and Rawlings tell the whole story.

Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at March 27, 2023 12:43 PM (3vCGB)

209 If you haven't seen, one of the Uvalde cops said they didn't go in because nobody stood a chance against an AR-15. This has been put into the latest NPC download for gun grabbers. "See? Even police are scared of those, they should be banned immediately".
Posted by: Ian S.

Sweet! Then the cops shouldn't have them either if they're so f'n afraid of them.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 27, 2023 12:43 PM (esk9b)

210 Foreign Waffen-SS Units:

The Baltic States still claim that the Baltic units of the SS were apolitical organizations defending their country against the evil Russians.

Defending the SS is not a good look.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 27, 2023 12:44 PM (2tUFv)

211 Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at March 27, 2023 12:42 PM (iKFmR)

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Thank you.

Posted by: Seems Legit at March 27, 2023 12:44 PM (DcKNO)

212 Here's the link to the meat of that interview with Dodd, btw.

https://tinyurl.com/2zy5vvpj

"By the time the Reece Committee conducted their investigation in 1953, the issue of subversive activities of tax exempt foundations had become a hot topic, but it had also been heavily politicized, helping to garner just as much support for the foundations as there was opposition, which, essentially diffused and neutralized inquiry, as politicization usually does."

Posted by: NISTdot gov: office chairs, not jet fuel or impact, caused perfect simultaneous collapse of WTC7 at March 27, 2023 12:44 PM (95YDO)

213 It's a guy, neither Rove nor DeSantis, saying that Rove is secretly directing D's campaign and coaching him to be more presidential.

So, DeSantis is getting coaching from Rove and then doing the direct opposite, then? Because I'm pretty sure that taking on Disney and the Alphabet People is not in the GOPe playbook.

Posted by: Chuck C at March 27, 2023 12:44 PM (xttsV)

214 Foreign Waffen-SS Units:
Albania = 8,000 Belgium = 18,000 Bulgaria = 700 Bohemian and Moravia = 77 Croatia = 17,000 Denmark = 6,000 Estonia = 20,000 Finland = 3,000 France = 9,000 Hungary = 20,000 India = 4,500 Italy = 15,000 Latvia = 60,000 Netherlands = 25,000 Norway = 6,000 Romania = 300,000 Serbia = 3,500
Spain = 300 Russia = 12,000 Sweden = 300 Switzerland = 1,300 Ukraine = 20,000
United Kingdom = 54 Iceland = 40

Posted by: Archer at March 27, 2023 12:41 PM (gmo/4)

Fun fact: The SS Charlemagne Division (mostly French) was a key defensive unit during the Battle of Berlin, especially in protecting Hitler's bunker, and was one of the last Nazi formations to surrender.

Posted by: Dr. T at March 27, 2023 12:44 PM (bhRsz)

215 Empire of the Summer Moon is a terrific read.

It's at its heart a story about a boy and his mother.

Posted by: Mr Gaga

It does not pull any punches, and is extremely well written. Even people that don't like history books would be entertained.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 27, 2023 12:44 PM (lTGtQ)

216 If DeSantis has anything to do with Rove, he's fucking toast. Well, certainly to me. I don't give a shit how he runs a campaign. Trump ran with an unknown and won. There are other "advisors" DeSantis could use.

Sefton and CBD were rattling off a long list of shitty Trump advisors on the latest Cut Jib. It's a two-way street.

Posted by: Ian S. at March 27, 2023 12:44 PM (ZGrMX)

217 Kinzinger sure looks like a cum guzzler.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at March 27, 2023 12:45 PM (17s+e)

218 > If you haven't seen, one of the Uvalde cops said they didn't go in because nobody stood a chance against an AR-15. This has been put into the latest NPC download for gun grabbers. "See? Even police are scared of those, they should be banned immediately".

Yeah, AR-15s are so deadly, even if you have more AR-15s than your enemy, you're still not going to be able to defeat their AR-15.

It's like the Physics problem of the train travelling near the speed of light. On the front of the train is a headlight. The light coming from that headlight isn't going faster than the speed of light, despite the train's speed.

Posted by: bonhomme at March 27, 2023 12:45 PM (j2Xg6)

219 203 183 Rove knows how to run a campaign no matter what you think of him otherwise. If DeSantis plans on running, which I still don't think he's going to do if Trump is running, Rove wouldn't be the worst choice as a campaign adviser.
Posted by: polynikes
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NO, Rove doesn't. Essentially, Rove won his rep on a late wave of GOP sweeping Texas and winning a war time reelection for GWB. By himself, he is notable about losing Senate races in winnable years and wasting huge sums of money by contributors including on behalf of Romney in 2012. He is a walking talking conflict of interest and like many consultants, has stayed around far longer than his success has.

Posted by: whig at March 27, 2023 12:45 PM (jOFQQ)

220 So, 244 mass shooters and looks like 30 of them were white. That's 12%. Reverso-world!

Posted by: kathysaysso at March 27, 2023 12:46 PM (PvVvQ)

221 217 Kinzinger sure looks like a cum guzzler.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at March 27, 2023 12:45 PM (17s+e)

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This simply, pointed statement made me LOL.

Posted by: Seems Legit at March 27, 2023 12:46 PM (DcKNO)

222 I like DeSantis. He seems smart, and has made fantastic moves as a conservative governor.

DeSantis is Scott Walker of 2024.

Remember Scott? The Wunderkind that was going to sweep into the Presidency eight years ago!

Where is Scott Walker now? How many Scott Walker Campaign Consultants are working for Ron DeSantis and DeSantis aligned PACS?

Hmmm?

Posted by: rd at March 27, 2023 12:46 PM (Z32m1)

223 So...under investigation by the Feds.
That alone is suspect. I'm thinking Kenzinger didn't get the 10% to the big guy fast enough.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 27, 2023 12:46 PM (anj39)

224 Posted by: Seems Legit at March 27, 2023 12:42 PM (DcKNO)

Funny how Trump can choose establishment people for his administration , endorse establishment people for reelection and embrace Fauci but anyone else gets roasted over the coals for just a rumor.

That said, we all make our own choices on what we will do.

Posted by: polynikes at March 27, 2023 12:46 PM (9A3LN)

225 t's a guy, neither Rove nor DeSantis, saying that Rove is secretly directing D's campaign and coaching him to be more presidential.

So, DeSantis is getting coaching from Rove and then doing the direct opposite, then? Because I'm pretty sure that taking on Disney and the Alphabet People is not in the GOPe playbook.

Please don't give this utterly unsubstantiated rumor the benefit of being even possibly true. Until there's something concrete tying Rove to DeSantis, it's all just chaff.

Posted by: Archimedes at March 27, 2023 12:47 PM (eOEVl)

226 Wonder what CTH has to say about the Trump/ Lindsey Graham team?

Posted by: redridinghood at March 27, 2023 12:47 PM (NpAcC)

227 So, 244 mass shooters and looks like 30 of them were white. That's 12%. Reverso-world!

Mass shootings in central cities are not mass shootings, and are only local news stories.

Posted by: The Media! at March 27, 2023 12:47 PM (2tUFv)

228 The only "war" stories my uncles told us were the funny ones.

And they were in D-Day, Market Garden, The Bulge and Solomon Islands.

They didn't speak much about their real experiences.

Posted by: Archer at March 27, 2023 12:47 PM (gmo/4)

229 This busty blonde is skeptical of everything involving Ukraine:
https://is.gd/JxNHlH
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 27, 2023 12:42 PM (t0OGg)

Got a mug like Joe Walsh.

Posted by: BignJames at March 27, 2023 12:47 PM (AwYPR)

230 Penis is not meant to be sipped.

Penis is meant to be chugged.

Posted by: Adam Kinzinger at March 27, 2023 12:47 PM (17s+e)

231 The argument is that somehow all the anti woke things DeSantis has actually done is negated by the fact that he has donors that are GOPe even though they are unnamed just alluded to as infamous Rove et al.
Somehow he is going to completely change personality and policies because he is maybe? backed by certain unnamed sources.
This is a phony argument. I want a clean primary fight between Trump and DeSantis. I hope DeSantis wins out because the Trump name calling is childish and should be beneath a presidential candidate. But I will vote for whomever wins because the alternative is evil.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 27, 2023 12:47 PM (Y+l9t)

232 I don't know about the first two, but those last three places suck.
Posted by: Jordan61

Tell us how ya REALLY feel !

Posted by: JT at March 27, 2023 12:48 PM (T4tVD)

233 Three real dead and one asshole.
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At least three people were killed and the gunman was reported dead after a shooting at a private Christian school in Nashville on Monday.

“An active shooter event has taken place at Covenant School, Covenant Presbyterian Church, on Burton Hills Dr,” Nashville Police said in a tweet.
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Metro Nashville PD @MNPDNashville
An active shooter event has taken place at Covenant School, Covenant Presbyterian Church, on Burton Hills Dr. The shooter was engaged by MNPD and is dead. Student reunification with parents is at Woodmont Baptist Church, 2100 Woodmont Blvd.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 27, 2023 12:48 PM (Vwz3I)

234 Where is Scott Walker now? How many Scott Walker Campaign Consultants are working for Ron DeSantis and DeSantis aligned PACS?

Hmmm?

I hope not many. Walker fell flat on his ass.

Posted by: Roland THTG at March 27, 2023 12:48 PM (j40lz)

235 >>>Nothing would make me happier than seeing Kinzinger in pound-you-in-the-ass-prison.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at March 27, 2023 12:30 PM (d2bW3)
++++
>>It won't happen. He's ruling class. Our rulers don't go to jail. They're above the law.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 27, 2023 12:31 PM (t0OGg)
++++
It might because he plays for the losing team in the UniParty League, and every now and again, they throw the rubes a bone, just to keep them from acting on that knowledge.
But any pounding that goes on will be entirely consensual.

Posted by: Steven Fletcher at March 27, 2023 12:48 PM (+eUEt)

236 .....the Comanche gazed at the horses, and something clicked.

Same thing happened in Enumclaw, WA. About a decade ago...

Posted by: Equine Solutions, LLC at March 27, 2023 12:48 PM (aFgj+)

237 NO, Rove doesn't. Essentially, Rove won his rep on a late wave of GOP sweeping Texas and winning a war time reelection for GWB. By himself, he is notable about losing Senate races in winnable years and wasting huge sums of money by contributors including on behalf of Romney in 2012. He is a walking talking conflict of interest and like many consultants, has stayed around far longer than his success has.
Posted by: whig at March 27, 2023 12:45 PM (jOFQQ)

This. He's the Republican Dick Morris of James Carvilles.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 27, 2023 12:48 PM (yQpMk)

238 216 "If DeSantis has anything to do with Rove, he's fucking toast. Well, certainly to me. I don't give a shit how he runs a campaign. Trump ran with an unknown and won. There are other "advisors" DeSantis could use."

Sefton and CBD were rattling off a long list of shitty Trump advisors on the latest Cut Jib. It's a two-way street.
Posted by: Ian S. at March 27, 2023 12:44 PM (ZGrMX)

This isn't really about minor advisors. Rove in particularly is objectionable much in the same manner McConnell is. Although McConnell would have to be worked with like it or not, Rove would be alarming in a way that some no-name wouldn't be.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 27, 2023 12:48 PM (eYoxG)

239 That said, we all make our own choices on what we will do.
Posted by: polynikes at March 27, 2023 12:46 PM (9A3LN)

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For the record, I like DeSantis...a lot. And I'm a Floridian.

I just HATE Karl Rove. I think he's exactly what is wrong with GOP politics.

Posted by: Seems Legit at March 27, 2023 12:48 PM (DcKNO)

240 Sefton and CBD were rattling off a long list of shitty Trump advisors on the latest Cut Jib. It's a two-way street.

Posted by: Ian S. at March 27, 2023 12:44 PM

Yep and let's not forget trump's first pick.....jeff sessions for AG.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 27, 2023 12:48 PM (ncXxy)

241 "Mass shooting at Christian school in Nashville. 2 dead + shooter."

Looked up the website of the Covenant school. Interestingly, all photos of students show only white kids, which is extremely unusual these days. (Usually school websites these days make sure to use "diverse" student photos, even if they have to use fake stock images to do it, just like all company websites and TV commercials now do.)

FWIW.

Posted by: gp Of Mayberry at March 27, 2023 12:48 PM (MvF+J)

242 3 children have been confirmed dead from the Nashville shooting.

Posted by: redridinghood at March 27, 2023 12:49 PM (NpAcC)

243 Posted by: whig at March 27, 2023 12:45 PM (jOFQQ)

Results matter and you are just dismissing them as ' in spite of Rove' . He turned Texas Red and that's undeniable.

Posted by: polynikes at March 27, 2023 12:49 PM (9A3LN)

244 Snapshot of the New America.

https://bit.ly/3nr9iK1

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 27, 2023 12:49 PM (FVME7)

245 Wonder what CTH has to say about the Trump/ Lindsey Graham team?

Trump endorsed McConnell, McCarthy, and McDaniel, or are we ignoring that? The difference? We KNOW he did that.

Posted by: Archimedes at March 27, 2023 12:49 PM (eOEVl)

246 DeSantis is Scott Walker of 2024.

He's coming out for unlimited immigration?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 27, 2023 12:50 PM (yQpMk)

247 Kinzinger sure looks like a cum guzzler.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at March 27, 2023 12:45 PM (17s+e)

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This simply, pointed statement made me LOL.
Posted by: Seems Legit at March 27, 2023 12:46 PM (DcKNO)
***

This guy is a chump.
Somebody found he could be exploited and he now dances to their tune. A complete zero.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 27, 2023 12:50 PM (anj39)

248 It might because he plays for the losing team in the UniParty League, and every now and again, they throw the rubes a bone, just to keep them from acting on that knowledge.
But any pounding that goes on will be entirely consensual.
Posted by: Steven Fletcher at March 27, 2023 12:48 PM (+eUEt)
++++
Yeah, they do occasionally try to keep up appearances and a doofus like Kinzinger would be a decent candidate for sacrifice. I still don't think it's likely, though.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 27, 2023 12:50 PM (t0OGg)

249
So, DeSantis is getting coaching from Rove and then doing the direct opposite, then? Because I'm pretty sure that taking on Disney and the Alphabet People is not in the GOPe playbook.
Posted by: Chuck C
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Ummm, no it isn't. Remember the 2004 election where Rove and the GOP used gay marriage referendums in key states to help build GWB's reelection. Simply put, muh patriotism and muh fights on social issues only to surrender later is right up GOP playbook alley. Look up wedge issues sometime. For decades, reversing R. v. Wade was a GOP stated priority but everytime in the end, it was Lucy and the football again.

Transgenderism is not the threat of the apocalypse and the answers to fight it are at the state level like DeSantis did, not at the federal level. However, the issues of the economy and national security are being ignored in favor of the freak show in the media and that is right at the Uniparty's favorite tactic to hide declining living standards and the threat of even nuclear war from public purview.

Posted by: whig at March 27, 2023 12:50 PM (jOFQQ)

250 Please don't give this utterly unsubstantiated rumor the benefit of being even possibly true. Until there's something concrete tying Rove to DeSantis, it's all just chaff.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 27, 2023 12:47 PM (eOEVl)

I would also like to point out that DeSantis' *actions*, as opposed to these hypotheticals, have been all anyone here could ask for. If I'm being asked to believe the guy is a stalking horse for globalist NeverTrumpers, I'm going to need a lot more evidence than this.

Posted by: Dr. T at March 27, 2023 12:50 PM (bhRsz)

251 Rove didn't turn Texas red.

That doesn't even make any sense.

Rove is a tick.

Posted by: Seems Legit at March 27, 2023 12:50 PM (DcKNO)

252 Filed under "Math Iz Hardz": We don't have enough weapons to keep Ukraine supplied and us safe

Hey, what the hell are we supposed to use man? Harsh language?

Posted by: Pvt Frost at March 27, 2023 12:51 PM (xttsV)

253 13 "Ripley's Heroes."

Believe it or not.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 27, 2023 12:07 PM (DlOzp)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7PlJj72lbc

Posted by: zmdavid at March 27, 2023 12:51 PM (xqRaG)

254 Flagstaff Arizona
Don't forget Winona
Kingman
Barstow
SAN BERNADINO!

Posted by: Archimedes at March 27, 2023 12:35 PM (eOEVl)

And I've been to Tucson, to Tucumcari,
Tehachapi to Tonopah...

Posted by: kathysaysso at March 27, 2023 12:51 PM (PvVvQ)

255 Rove is a tick.

Posted by: Seems Legit at March 27, 2023 12:50 PM (DcKNO)

But he's got a white board. Like the Jedi.

Posted by: Archer at March 27, 2023 12:51 PM (gmo/4)

256 The growing use in cooking of flour made from crickets, locusts and insect larvae has met fierce opposition in Italy where the government is to ban its use in pizza and pasta and segregate it on shelving in supermarkets.

In a sign of fear that insects might be associated with Italian cuisine, three government ministers called a press conference in Rome to announce four decrees aimed at a crackdown. "It's fundamental that these flours are not confused with food made in Italy," Francesco Lollobrigida, the agriculture minister, said.

Packed with vitamins, proteins and minerals, flour made from crickets is increasingly seen as an ecological way to obtain nutrients. EU has already authorised foods made from crickets, locusts and the darkling beetle larva, and in January added mealworm larvae

Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at March 27, 2023 12:51 PM (MFZ8i)

257 Rove is a tick.

Brevity is the soul of wit.

Posted by: Archimedes at March 27, 2023 12:51 PM (eOEVl)

258 As I've said, there is no rationale for a DeSantis run in 24, NONE.

The idea that after winning a landslide election in FL, he would abandon Florida for a Quixotic run at the Presidency is comical and could have only been the result of idiot clowns like Karl Rove filling up his head with nonsense.

DeSantis is doing an excellent job as Governor and should remain doing that.

Do people think effective, conservative governors grow on trees?

If he abandons Florida who takes his place?

No one that's who or worse, some Jeb like, smooth talking GOPe charlatan.

And another thing that rankles me about DeSantis, Rick Scott, and Brian Kemp and the GOP generally.

The Donks literally tried to steal the elections from them, they had to fight the steal attempts and after winning election, made changes that made it harder for elections to be stolen, but for some reason, Trump saying the quit part out loud makes everyone on the GOP side foam at the mouth, SHUT UP TRUMP!!!!.

Also Ron's whole, I don't knows nuthin' about no hush money payments.

Really, Ron, you were a rep for 6 years, congress has a slush fund to pay hush money to it's victims?

Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 27, 2023 12:52 PM (up/3i)

259 @210 The Baltic States still claim that the Baltic units of the SS were apolitical organizations defending their country against the evil Russians.

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There's an old observation to keep in mind. In the late '30s, the only people directly confronting the evil of fascism were the communists. Similarly, the only people directly confronting the evils of communism were the fascists.

The fact that both communists and fascists were two sides of the same coin was something that many only realized too late.

Posted by: junior at March 27, 2023 12:52 PM (U2tKK)

260 So, 244 mass shooters and looks like 30 of them were white. That's 12%. Reverso-world!
Posted by: kathysaysso

Of those 30, how many were dems and how many were on psychotropic medications?

Posted by: rickb223 at March 27, 2023 12:52 PM (esk9b)

261 Trump made lots of mistakes. So does everybody else. But Trump is the only one the globalists really fear.

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at March 27, 2023 12:52 PM (iKFmR)

262 This busty blonde is skeptical of everything involving Ukraine:
https://is.gd/JxNHlH
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 27, 2023 12:42 PM (t0OGg)

I recognize that bar! Looks like one I visited a couple times in Cave Creek AZ.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 27, 2023 12:52 PM (anj39)

263 242 3 children have been confirmed dead from the Nashville shooting.
Posted by: redridinghood at March 27, 2023 12:49 PM (NpAcC)

Oh no... I'm heart sick.....

Posted by: It's me donna at March 27, 2023 12:52 PM (bs+z0)

264 Sundance, is correct though in assessing that literally trillions of dollars is at stake and the GOP donor and political class hates its base and wants it turned into serfs or dead about as much the Dems do. Use that as a filter and you can maybe see some light in the darkness ahead of us.

Posted by: whig at March 27, 2023 12:43 PM (jOFQQ)

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Well said, per usual, whig.

Sundance has been dead-on for years in the destructive attacks on Americans, Common Man, & Wall Street by the Globalists, UniParty, & Wall Street.

Posted by: ShainS -- The Abolition of The West is from Men Without Chests at March 27, 2023 12:52 PM (nadC/)

265 The argument is that somehow all the anti woke things DeSantis has actually done is negated by the fact that he has donors that are GOPe even though they are unnamed just alluded to as infamous Rove et al.
Somehow he is going to completely change personality and policies because he is maybe? backed by certain unnamed sources.
This is a phony argument. I want a clean primary fight between Trump and DeSantis. I hope DeSantis wins out because the Trump name calling is childish and should be beneath a presidential candidate. But I will vote for whomever wins because the alternative is evil.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 27, 2023 12:47 PM (Y+l9t)

And that should be the last word on this whole topic. But it won't.

Posted by: Dr. T at March 27, 2023 12:53 PM (bhRsz)

266 So, 244 mass shooters and looks like 30 of them were white. That's 12%. Reverso-world!

Posted by: kathysaysso

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I'd be shocked if it were even that many.

Also I haven't looked, but I wouldn't be surprised if there were as many women total as there are white men.

Posted by: NISTdot gov: office chairs, not jet fuel or impact, caused perfect simultaneous collapse of WTC7 at March 27, 2023 12:53 PM (nxvaK)

267 The Nashville shooter's corpse must have turned transparent upon his death. Lost all skin coloration.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at March 27, 2023 12:53 PM (KiBMU)

268 159 Adam is a bad guy
Posted by: Skip

How do you figure? The guy sacrificed part of his anatomy so that women could be created!
Posted by: Joe Mannix

Everything was going just fine until Eve. Next thing you know they're falling for the whole forbidden fruit setup, getting thrown out of Eden, and giving God the cover story he needed for making the world a shitshow from that point on.

Posted by: Mistake or malevolence, end result is the same at March 27, 2023 12:53 PM (0avLl)

269 As I've said, there is no rationale for a DeSantis run in 24, NONE.

What if Trump dies? I want an heir and a spare.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 27, 2023 12:53 PM (yQpMk)

270 This busty blonde is skeptical of everything involving Ukraine:
https://is.gd/JxNHlH
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 27, 2023 12:42 PM (t0OGg)

Got a mug like Joe Walsh.
Posted by: BignJames

Butterface!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 27, 2023 12:53 PM (FVME7)

271 Rove didn't turn Texas red.

That doesn't even make any sense.

Rove is a tick.
Posted by: Seems Legit at March 27, 2023 12:50 PM (DcKNO)

You don't know much about Texas .

Posted by: polynikes at March 27, 2023 12:53 PM (9A3LN)

272 Lt. Colonel Rip Rawlings?

Really?

Was he a pilot over Macho Grande?

Posted by: Barnacle Bill the sailor at March 27, 2023 12:53 PM (vcOmj)

273 Pretty sure Odessa, TX is inland.
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Odessa became a major cattle-shipping center during the mid-1890s. The city was named after Odessa, Ukraine. Oil was discovered in this region in 1926. The city was also the one-year home of George H. W.

Posted by: Pudinhead at March 27, 2023 12:54 PM (Iv+w0)

274 >>This busty blonde is skeptical of everything involving Ukraine:
https://is.gd/JxNHlH
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

Her face is, well, unfortunate.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 27, 2023 12:54 PM (DMyTF)

275 Rove didn't turn Texas red.

That doesn't even make any sense.

Rove is a tick.

Posted by: Seems Legit

The tick doesn't steer the dog, he is only along for the ride.

Texas started turning red in the early 80's, as people started to see just how evil democrats were. It has only gone further to the right since then.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 27, 2023 12:54 PM (lTGtQ)

276 This weekend I learned that Archimedes passed the Lever Law, which liberated the Greeks, at last, to legally pry open their gallon paint cans.

Posted by: gp Of Mayberry at March 27, 2023 12:54 PM (MvF+J)

277 Snapshot of the New America.

https://bit.ly/3nr9iK1
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 27, 2023 12:49 PM (FVME7)

"The only value listed here that's gaining ground is money."

The love of money is something something.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 27, 2023 12:54 PM (1Z8zZ)

278 * attacks on Americans, Common Man, & MAIN Street

sorry.

Posted by: ShainS -- The Abolition of The West is from Men Without Chests at March 27, 2023 12:55 PM (nadC/)

279 > Transgenderism is not the threat of the apocalypse and the answers to fight it are at the state level like DeSantis did, not at the federal level.

I strongly believe the breakdown of the family and the breakdown of man's relationship with God are the root of the apocalypse and every other social ill.

Posted by: bonhomme at March 27, 2023 12:55 PM (j2Xg6)

280 There's an old observation to keep in mind. In the late '30s, the only people directly confronting the evil of fascism were the communists. Similarly, the only people directly confronting the evils of communism were the fascists.

The fact that both communists and fascists were two sides of the same coin was something that many only realized too late.
Posted by: junior

There is iron in your words.

Posted by: Barnacle Bill the sailor at March 27, 2023 12:55 PM (vcOmj)

281 This weekend I learned that Archimedes passed the Lever Law, which liberated the Greeks, at last, to legally pry open their gallon paint cans.

*buffs fingernails on lapels*

Posted by: Archimedes at March 27, 2023 12:55 PM (eOEVl)

282 Please don't give this utterly unsubstantiated rumor the benefit of being even possibly true. Until there's something concrete tying Rove to DeSantis, it's all just chaff.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 27, 2023 12:47 PM (eOEVl)

I would also like to point out that DeSantis' *actions*, as opposed to these hypotheticals, have been all anyone here could ask for. If I'm being asked to believe the guy is a stalking horse for globalist NeverTrumpers, I'm going to need a lot more evidence than this.
Posted by: Dr. T at March 27, 2023 12:50 PM (bhRsz)
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I like what DeSantis is doing and really could care less if Rove is giving him advice because anyone can give advice, I think DeSantis is going to do his own thing regardless of what Rove suggests.

Posted by: redridinghood at March 27, 2023 12:55 PM (NpAcC)

283 Ah, the list of seemingly competent state governors who flame out under scrutiny and the national spotlight is vast. Christie, Perry, Romney, Walker, and now Meatball Ron. Don't be fooled people!

Posted by: Used To Like Meatballs at March 27, 2023 12:56 PM (aFgj+)

284 In the picture with Rawlings, Kinzinger looks like a relaxed fit guy squeezed into trim cut. My testicles feel like they are in a tourniquet just looking at it.

Posted by: Oglebay at March 27, 2023 12:56 PM (wscPk)

285 You don't know much about Texas .
Posted by: polynikes at March 27, 2023 12:53 PM (9A3LN)

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Although I lived there 5 years, maybe not.

Explain how Rove turned Texas red.

Posted by: Seems Legit at March 27, 2023 12:56 PM (DcKNO)

286 Lt. Colonel Rip Rawlings?

Really?

Was he a pilot over Macho Grande?
Posted by: Barnacle Bill the sailor at March 27, 2023 12:53 PM (vcOmj)

He never got over Macho Grande.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 27, 2023 12:56 PM (anj39)

287 There is iron in your words.

And so you know my word of death is true.

Posted by: Archimedes at March 27, 2023 12:56 PM (eOEVl)

288 3 children have been confirmed dead from the Nashville shooting.

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Oh no.

Posted by: NISTdot gov: office chairs, not jet fuel or impact, caused perfect simultaneous collapse of WTC7 at March 27, 2023 12:56 PM (nxvaK)

289 @269

>>What if Trump dies? I want an heir and a spare.

At some point we all die, but what you don't do is swap your king for a rook, bishop or pawn.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 27, 2023 12:56 PM (up/3i)

290 Adam Jizzinger. Damn it, why couldn't I have thought of that earlier?

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 27, 2023 12:56 PM (Y5qcH)

291 Results matter and you are just dismissing them as ' in spite of Rove' . He turned Texas Red and that's undeniable.
Posted by: polynikes
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No, he did not. I happen to know what happened in the South generally during that time period which included the GOP taking power in state after state as S. Dems imploded over the Clinton administration. Actually try reading some of the political history of the time about Southern realignment theory in wake of the GOP revolution in 1994. It was foretold by the dying off and retirement of old Southern Dems and the replacement by suburban GOP pols.

In fact, look at who GWB had to cohabitate power with during his governorship--a Dem Senate leader named Bob Bullock. The GOP did not capture the Texas House until Perry's term in office. So, it is best to give Rove credit for getting GWB elected, not for turning Texas red.

Posted by: whig at March 27, 2023 12:56 PM (jOFQQ)

292 285 Although I lived there 5 years, maybe not.

Explain how Rove turned Texas red.
Posted by: Seems Legit at March 27, 2023 12:56 PM (DcKNO)

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Looks like Texas has been voting Republican every presidential cycle since 1980.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 27, 2023 12:57 PM (LvTSG)

293 DeSantis is Scott Walker of 2024.

He's coming out for unlimited immigration?
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 27, 2023

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Will Ron's donors and oh so professional campaign consultants tell him to do that? They told Scott Walker to do that.

Posted by: rd at March 27, 2023 12:57 PM (Z32m1)

294 In the picture with Rawlings, Kinzinger looks like a relaxed fit guy squeezed into trim cut. My testicles feel like they are in a tourniquet just looking at it.
Posted by: Oglebay at March 27, 2023 12:56 PM (wscPk)

He's having to hold up his arm so he can flex better.
What an asshole.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 27, 2023 12:58 PM (anj39)

295 The city was also the one-year home of George H. W.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 27, 2023 12:54 PM (Iv+w0)

You can't blame them for that.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 27, 2023 12:58 PM (1Z8zZ)

296 At some point we all die
Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 27, 2023 12:56 PM (up/3i)

Especially those of us north of 75.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 27, 2023 12:58 PM (yQpMk)

297 I've been a big believer that Trump and DeSantis are a Tag Team Wrestling Act. The more they have dustups the more attention and funding they attract. They can even move the retard press to say things that help them.

Posted by: Pudinhead at March 27, 2023 12:58 PM (Iv+w0)

298 I strongly believe the breakdown of the family and the breakdown of man's relationship with God are the root of the apocalypse and every other social ill.

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#26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

Posted by: NISTdot gov: office chairs, not jet fuel or impact, caused perfect simultaneous collapse of WTC7 at March 27, 2023 12:58 PM (nxvaK)

299 Texas started turning red in the early 80's, as people started to see just how evil democrats were. It has only gone further to the right since then.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 27, 2023 12:54 PM (lTGtQ)

You guys are in denial because you hate someone. Texas was a Dem run state until 1994 . The strategy formed by Rove and Bush flipped the State. Hell even Rick Perry admits it was Rove that convinced him to become Republican.

Posted by: polynikes at March 27, 2023 12:58 PM (9A3LN)

300 Quit being mean to me! *snif*

Posted by: Adam Kinzinger at March 27, 2023 12:58 PM (v0R5T)

301 Jimmy Carter turned Texas red. it still took almost 2 decades for Rick Perry to figure it out.

Posted by: x at March 27, 2023 12:58 PM (ZBPE2)

302 The argument is that somehow all the anti woke things DeSantis has actually done is negated by the fact that he has donors that are GOPe even though they are unnamed just alluded to as infamous Rove et al.
Somehow he is going to completely change personality and policies because he is maybe? backed by certain unnamed sources.
This is a phony argument. I want a clean primary fight between Trump and DeSantis. I hope DeSantis wins out because the Trump name calling is childish and should be beneath a presidential candidate. But I will vote for whomever wins because the alternative is evil.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 27, 2023 12:47 PM

This, times eleventy.

Posted by: Minnfidel at March 27, 2023 12:58 PM (GwxCX)

303 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 27, 2023 12:58 PM (7Q7Ca)

304 293 Will Ron's donors and oh so professional campaign consultants tell him to do that? They told Scott Walker to do that.
Posted by: rd at March 27, 2023 12:57 PM (Z32m1)

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That the donors won't let their preferred presidential candidates lie about that has always flabbergasted me. They let them lie about everything else.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 27, 2023 12:58 PM (LvTSG)

305 Will Ron's donors and oh so professional campaign consultants tell him to do that? They told Scott Walker to do that.
Posted by: rd at March 27, 2023 12:57 PM (Z32m1)

My guess would be no.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 27, 2023 12:58 PM (yQpMk)

306 > Her face is, well, unfortunate.

She's got a bit of a young MTG look going. In real life, I wouldn't turn up my nose.

Posted by: bonhomme at March 27, 2023 12:59 PM (j2Xg6)

307 Playlist is rolling a lot of Queensrÿche today and frankly, it's scaring me.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 27, 2023 12:59 PM (7Q7Ca)

308 Are any prominent GOPe crooks making any significant statements about DeSantis, positive or negative?

Posted by: davidt at March 27, 2023 12:59 PM (SYTee)

309 IMHO, Anne Richardson had more to do with turning Texas red than whitebread Rove.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at March 27, 2023 12:59 PM (17s+e)

310 The tick doesn't steer the dog, he is only along for the ride.

Texas started turning red in the early 80's, as people started to see just how evil democrats were. It has only gone further to the right since then.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 27, 2023 12:54 PM (lTGtQ)

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Correct.

But I will say, the Bush family fooled me. I now fully understand what Perot was trying to warn us about.

Posted by: Seems Legit at March 27, 2023 12:59 PM (DcKNO)

311 304 293 Will Ron's donors and oh so professional campaign consultants tell him to do that? They told Scott Walker to do that.
Posted by: rd at March 27, 2023 12:57 PM (Z32m1)

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That the donors won't let their preferred presidential candidates lie about that has always flabbergasted me. They let them lie about everything else.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 27, 2023 12:58 PM (LvTSG)

Maybe they really believe it's how to win?

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 27, 2023 12:59 PM (eYoxG)

312 >>DeSantis is Scott Walker of 2024.

He's coming out for unlimited immigration?
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 27, 2023

No no, he does that after he's elected.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 27, 2023 12:59 PM (DMyTF)

313 I strongly believe the breakdown of the family and the breakdown of man's relationship with God are the root of the apocalypse and every other social ill.
Posted by: bonhomme
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Yes, I agree taht family breakdown is important but unfortunately society has to cure that ill, government is a contributor but not the whole pix.

You want a stable family, then you have to stabilize the economics of work as our current system because in a system where almost everyone is a wage slave, depriving them of their main earning power by diluting their wages by offshoring or direct immigration replacement makes them amenable for all sorts of bad things.

Posted by: whig at March 27, 2023 01:00 PM (jOFQQ)

314 >>I strongly believe the breakdown of the family and the breakdown of man's relationship with God are the root of the apocalypse and every other social ill.

They are the root of replacing a free society with marxism which is why the commies always go after family, faith and guns first.

If you believe that men can magically turn into women it's easy for you to believe that oppression is freedom.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 27, 2023 01:00 PM (ZLI7S)

315 gerrymandering kept the dems in power in Texas a lot longer than the public would have liked.

Posted by: x at March 27, 2023 01:00 PM (ZBPE2)

316 Posted by: whig at March 27, 2023 12:56 PM (jOFQQ)

I saw what happened first hand so I'm going to have to disagree.

Posted by: polynikes at March 27, 2023 01:00 PM (9A3LN)

317 Kinzinger is the kind of guy that is he were in the line at the bank and some dude comes in with a gun to rob it, he'd be the first to pee his pants.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 27, 2023 01:00 PM (anj39)

318 297 I've been a big believer that Trump and DeSantis are a Tag Team Wrestling Act. The more they have dustups the more attention and funding they attract. They can even move the retard press to say things that help them.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 27, 2023 12:58 PM (Iv+w0)

Been wondering that myself. Really keeps the media talking about no one else but them. No one is talking about what's her face and that other guy.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 27, 2023 01:00 PM (Y5qcH)

319 No no, he does that after he's elected.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 27, 2023 12:59 PM (DMyTF)

Do you have this weeks Powerball numbers?

Asking for a friend.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 27, 2023 01:00 PM (yQpMk)

320 You guys are in denial because you hate someone. Texas was a Dem run state until 1994 . The strategy formed by Rove and Bush flipped the State. Hell even Rick Perry admits it was Rove that convinced him to become Republican.
Posted by: polynikes at March 27, 2023 12:58 PM (9A3LN)

Rove/Bush conspired to make Ann Richards piss off the voters?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 27, 2023 01:00 PM (1Z8zZ)

321 Right after being shot, the shooter fell into a huge vat of bleach.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at March 27, 2023 01:01 PM (ogTP0)

322 315 gerrymandering kept the dems in power in Texas a lot longer than the public would have liked.
Posted by: x at March 27, 2023 01:00 PM (ZBPE2)

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Yes. IF Rove had anything to do with changing the lines then maybe he helped, otherwise, not so much.

Posted by: Seems Legit at March 27, 2023 01:01 PM (DcKNO)

323 That the donors won't let their preferred presidential candidates lie about that has always flabbergasted me. They let them lie about everything else.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 27, 2023 12:58 PM (LvTSG)

Maybe they really believe it's how to win?
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy
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Donors, by and large, pay for access to the candidate and the illusion of power. You might call them courtiers in a monarchy and by and large, they want quid pro quo.

Posted by: whig at March 27, 2023 01:01 PM (jOFQQ)

324 I strongly believe the breakdown of the family and the breakdown of man's relationship with God are the root of the apocalypse and every other social ill.

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That's a bingo!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 27, 2023 01:01 PM (FVME7)

325 311 Maybe they really believe it's how to win?
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 27, 2023 12:59 PM (eYoxG)

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It's true. Democrats win by saying it all the time.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 27, 2023 01:01 PM (LvTSG)

326 What if Trump dies? I want an heir and a spare.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 27, 2023 12:53 PM (yQpMk)

Unfortunately Megan and Harry are firmly on the other side.

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at March 27, 2023 01:02 PM (iKFmR)

327 Rove/Bush conspired to make Ann Richards piss off the voters?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 27, 2023 01:00 PM (1Z8zZ)

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Texans hated her for all the right reasons.

Posted by: Seems Legit at March 27, 2023 01:02 PM (DcKNO)

328 DeSantis People are in for a very rude awakening. I don't see why anyone would support any politician at this point with anything more than mild approbation (I prefer scorn and disgust). He's got one big rug to pull. But yeah maybe a young Trump did just appear out of nowhere after 50 years of that not ever happening among the political class.

Posted by: ... at March 27, 2023 01:02 PM (qwftM)

329 An American politician peddling his country's foreign policy to any fucked-up third world thug who can pony up the cash?

That kind of stinking corruption is unthinkable. These people are statesmen and moral paragons.

I can't... I shan't believe it!

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 27, 2023 01:02 PM (oINRc)

330 Someone compiled a picture of all mass shooters from 2021 here. Spoilers- it's exactly what you'd expect.

https://tinyurl.com/2fuoe8fo
Posted by: NISTdot gov

Not too many looking like my 60 yr old pasty white ass.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 27, 2023 12:32 PM (esk9b)

In the effort to pump up the numbers of "mass shooting" or school shootings they inadvertently made narrative problems for themselves.
Do we have a gun problem or a people problem?

Posted by: OneEyedJack at March 27, 2023 01:02 PM (FCbAQ)

331 hahahaha

The Horrible War in Ukraine is so Horrible that the music scene is thriving and kids are enjoying the uptick in social gatherings and raves

"Since the outbreak of war, the underground music scenes in Ukraine’s major cities, such as Lviv and Kyiv, have seen a surge in creativity and popularity as musicians and music lovers seek an escape from wartime realities. In particular, the techno and rock music scenes have seen a new generation of DJs and bands burst onto the scene, infusing the sounds and experiences of war into their music."

https://tinyurl.com/2msfwhb5

You know. Dangerous wartime stuff.

Posted by: NISTdot gov: office chairs, not jet fuel or impact, caused perfect simultaneous collapse of WTC7 at March 27, 2023 01:02 PM (nxvaK)

332 In fact, look at who GWB had to cohabitate power with during his governorship--a Dem Senate leader named Bob Bullock. The GOP did not capture the Texas House until Perry's term in office. So, it is best to give Rove credit for getting GWB elected, not for turning Texas red.

Posted by: whig

And Bullock, like so many Texas dems, was a conservative. What happened was the final breakdown of the yellow dogs, who left politics or changed parties. Hell, Phil Gramm was a dem house member who resigned office and changed parties to republican because he said he could not honestly remain in office as a democrat, given what they had become.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 27, 2023 01:02 PM (lTGtQ)

333 DeSantis just signed school choice legislation. For a secret GOPe operative, he sure is doing a lot of things I like.

Posted by: bonhomme at March 27, 2023 01:02 PM (j2Xg6)

334 Kinzinger is the kind of guy that is he were in the line at the bank and some dude comes in with a gun to rob it, he'd be the first to pee his pants.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 27, 2023 01:00 PM (anj39)
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I did no such thing. That was just a freak rainstorm in my pants.

Posted by: Adam Kinzinger at March 27, 2023 01:03 PM (17s+e)

335 309 IMHO, Anne Richardson had more to do with turning Texas red than whitebread Rove.
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Maybe. Texas was Blue Dog Dem. I think LBJ did more to turn Texas red than anyone else. The Great Society was not popular with the entire South. It was just another installment on Reconstruction as we are seeing again. Fuck those Yankee Retards.

Posted by: Pudinhead at March 27, 2023 01:03 PM (Iv+w0)

336 I'm not sure that I want Republicans to win. I'm not even sure that I want "Conservatives" to win.

But I'm damn sure want the Communists to lose.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 27, 2023 01:03 PM (yQpMk)

337 Kinzinger. STAUNCH conservative, you guys. STAUNCH.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 27, 2023 01:03 PM (7Q7Ca)

338 At some point we all die
Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 27, 2023 12:56 PM (up/3i)

Especially those of us north of 75.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 27, 2023 12:58 PM (yQpMk)
***

*looks at calendar*
Whew! Got some time yet.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 27, 2023 01:03 PM (anj39)

339 Fox News Host Steve Hilton was criticizing DeSantis on his show last night for not being sufficiently supportive of Ukraine.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 27, 2023 01:03 PM (63Dwl)

340 I personally think if you want to know what Ron DeSantis is doing and will do?

Watch Christina Pushaw.

https://twitter.com/ChristinaPushaw

She is his alter ego.

Posted by: rd at March 27, 2023 01:04 PM (Z32m1)

341 301 Jimmy Carter turned Texas red. it still took almost 2 decades for Rick Perry to figure it out.
Posted by: x
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Umm, Eisenhower pulled that trick off in the 50's winning the state comfortably both in 52 and 56.

Posted by: whig at March 27, 2023 01:04 PM (jOFQQ)

342 Yep and let's not forget trump's first pick.....jeff sessions for AG.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 27, 2023 12:48 PM (ncXxy)

———-

No conservative would’ve said Sessions was a bad pick back when it was made.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at March 27, 2023 01:04 PM (wzxPH)

343 Heh. I remember that once upon a time Rove used to be referred to as "you magnificent bastard" by conservatives. My, how things have changed.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 27, 2023 01:04 PM (Xrfse)

344 So, it is best to give Rove credit for getting GWB elected, not for turning Texas red.

Posted by: whig

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I think that's a fair statement.

Posted by: Seems Legit at March 27, 2023 01:05 PM (DcKNO)

345 Does anybody have Windows 10?

Could you move your cursor down and look next to the search box? What is that pic ?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 27, 2023 01:05 PM (jzzG8)

346
Rove/Bush conspired to make Ann Richards piss off the voters?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 27, 2023 01:00 PM (1Z8zZ)

Hey. Who knew a little measly joke about rape would ruin a political career?

Posted by: Clayton Williams at March 27, 2023 01:05 PM (7Q7Ca)

347 342 Yep and let's not forget trump's first pick.....jeff sessions for AG.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 27, 2023 12:48 PM (ncXxy)

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No conservative would’ve said Sessions was a bad pick back when it was made.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at March 27, 2023 01:04 PM (wzxPH)

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DeSantis will predict the future and know which conservative will become disappointments. It's the Nickelback in him.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 27, 2023 01:05 PM (LvTSG)

348
But I came here for an argument.
Posted by: Archimedes

No you didn't.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 27, 2023 01:05 PM (n+4am)

349 Especially those of us north of 75.
Posted by: G'rump928(c)

Well, I-75 runs kind of North-South, although it kind of angles off into Tennessee and Georgia.

North of I-75? Canada?

Posted by: Barnacle Bill the sailor at March 27, 2023 01:05 PM (vcOmj)

350 Chris Christie

Posted by: ... at March 27, 2023 01:05 PM (qwftM)

351 345 I'm not moving my cursor for nobody, nohow.

Posted by: gp Of Mayberry at March 27, 2023 01:05 PM (MvF+J)

352 @328

>>But yeah maybe a young Trump did just appear out of nowhere after 50 years of that not ever happening among the political class.

What you weren't wowed by his unremarkable and inconsequential 6 years as a Congressman?

And I particularly enjoyed his response to someone asking him if he accept being Trump's VP.

He said he was more of an executive type.

DUDE!!! You've been in an executive position for four f**king years and now you think you got the minerals for the top slot?

F**king clown world.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 27, 2023 01:06 PM (up/3i)

353 DeSantis just signed school choice legislation. For a secret GOPe operative, he sure is doing a lot of things I like.
Posted by: bonhomme at March 27, 2023 01:02 PM

Nah. Whig convinced me. As Dickey Bennett would say. "It's a rooose"

Posted by: Chuck C at March 27, 2023 01:06 PM (xttsV)

354 343 Heh. I remember that once upon a time Rove used to be referred to as "you magnificent bastard" by conservatives. My, how things have changed.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 27, 2023 01:04 PM (Xrfse)

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There is an extremely long list of "conservatives" I use to respect who I now think of as disgraceful, c*unty, scum.

Posted by: Seems Legit at March 27, 2023 01:06 PM (DcKNO)

355 "Adam Kinzinger? Ha ha ha! What a homo."*

*Said in Jeff Spicoli's voice

Posted by: Sharkman at March 27, 2023 01:06 PM (H+3IP)

356 And Bullock, like so many Texas dems, was a conservative. What happened was the final breakdown of the yellow dogs, who left politics or changed parties. Hell, Phil Gramm was a dem house member who resigned office and changed parties to republican because he said he could not honestly remain in office as a democrat, given what they had become.
Posted by: Thomas Paine
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Texas Dems were more populist than conservative which is why Texas was a wild card in presidential elections and Texas was not unique among Southern states in turning from the Dems to the GOP as the national Dem party turned toward the coasts and urban politics during the 80's and 90's. Heck, even Barbara Jordan from TX opposed open borders during the 90's.

Posted by: whig at March 27, 2023 01:06 PM (jOFQQ)

357 Adam Jizzinger. Damn it, why couldn't I have thought of that earlier?
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It didn't come to you.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 27, 2023 01:06 PM (Vwz3I)

358 Especially those of us north of 75.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 27, 2023 12:58 PM (yQpMk)

Hey, whatta trying to pull here?..75 runs north and south

Posted by: A dude in MI doesn't really care about your podcast at March 27, 2023 01:06 PM (/6GbT)

359 Could you move your cursor down and look next to the search box? What is that pic ?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 27, 2023 01:05 PM (jzzG8 )

A notepad and a blue bottle of...something. Also, nice hash. Jizzgate?

Posted by: Jordan61 at March 27, 2023 01:07 PM (DRSnL)

360 No conservative would’ve said Sessions was a bad pick back when it was made.

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I assume - similar to the Kemp election-time massive car explosion from a low speed sideswipe accident - Sessions was asked by a company employee if he would to know the future of at least one member of his immediate family if he decided to help Trump.

Posted by: NISTdot gov: office chairs, not jet fuel or impact, caused perfect simultaneous collapse of WTC7 at March 27, 2023 01:07 PM (nxvaK)

361 345 Thumbnail of one genius toe fungus cure.

Posted by: gp Of Mayberry at March 27, 2023 01:07 PM (MvF+J)

362 Although I lived there 5 years, maybe not.

Explain how Rove turned Texas red.
Posted by: Seems Legit at March 27, 2023 12:56 PM (DcKNO)

Did you live there in 93 94 ?

Posted by: polynikes at March 27, 2023 01:07 PM (9A3LN)

363
Heh. I remember that once upon a time Rove used to be referred to as "you magnificent bastard" by conservatives. My, how things have changed.
Posted by: Notorious BFD

How 'bout John Bolton?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 27, 2023 01:07 PM (63Dwl)

364 "Since the outbreak of war, the underground music scenes in Ukraine’s major cities, such as Lviv and Kyiv, have seen a surge in creativity and popularity as musicians and music lovers seek an escape from wartime realities. In particular, the techno and rock music scenes have seen a new generation of DJs and bands burst onto the scene, infusing the sounds and experiences of war into their music."

https://tinyurl.com/2msfwhb5

You know. Dangerous wartime stuff.
Posted by: NISTdot gov:

Life in Wartime
This ain't no party
This ain't no disco
This ain't no foolin' around...

Posted by: Barnacle Bill the sailor at March 27, 2023 01:07 PM (vcOmj)

365 @345

>>Does anybody have Windows 10?

Windows is the Peter Gibbons of the OS world.

Every day you use it its worse than the day before.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 27, 2023 01:07 PM (up/3i)

366 Nude something

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 27, 2023 01:08 PM (yQpMk)

367 There is an extremely long list of "conservatives" I use to respect who I now think of as disgraceful, c*unty, scum.

Yeah, that was my point. They fooled me right out of my shoes. Shame on me.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 27, 2023 01:08 PM (Xrfse)

368 Texas Dems were more populist than conservative which is why Texas was a wild card in presidential elections and Texas was not unique among Southern states in turning from the Dems to the GOP as the national Dem party turned toward the coasts and urban politics during the 80's and 90's. Heck, even Barbara Jordan from TX opposed open borders during the 90's.
Posted by: whig at March 27, 2023 01:06 PM (jOFQQ)

The Clintons and Neoliberalism are an often ignored part of what drove the ongoing realignment.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 27, 2023 01:08 PM (eYoxG)

369 Simply put, muh patriotism and muh fights on social issues only to surrender later is right up GOP playbook alley.

whig
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There it is.

Posted by: ... at March 27, 2023 01:08 PM (qwftM)

370 "Adam Kinzinger? Ha ha ha! What a homo."*

*Said in Jeff Spicoli's voice
Posted by: Sharkman at March 27, 2023 01:06 PM (H+3IP)

THOSE guys are FAGS!

Posted by: Jeff Spicoli at March 27, 2023 01:08 PM (7Q7Ca)

371 nood

Posted by: gp Of Mayberry at March 27, 2023 01:08 PM (MvF+J)

372 DeSantis just signed school choice legislation. For a secret GOPe operative, he sure is doing a lot of things I like.
Posted by: bonhomme at March 27, 2023 01:02 PM

No, there can only be one! Nobody else is capable of actually being conservative! Do not blaspheme!

Posted by: Minnfidel at March 27, 2023 01:08 PM (GwxCX)

373 Another report coming in saying in addition to the 3 children that are 2 adults have also died.

Posted by: redridinghood at March 27, 2023 01:08 PM (NpAcC)

374 Wow, Kinzinger is an evil and vile war profiteer...

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 27, 2023 01:09 PM (O636P)

375 Cold Fort Worth beer ain't no good for jealous

Posted by: Old glazier at March 27, 2023 01:09 PM (7JJDP)

376 343 Heh. I remember that once upon a time Rove used to be referred to as "you magnificent bastard" by conservatives. My, how things have changed.
Posted by: Notorious BFD
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Not me. I regard almost all political consultants as scum of the earth and weasels and part of that notion comes from dealing with them.

Posted by: whig at March 27, 2023 01:09 PM (jOFQQ)

377 Kiwi Tranny riots vs actual women nood

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 27, 2023 01:09 PM (Vwz3I)

378 Ann Richards only won because Clayton Williams was a terrible rape counselor

Posted by: x at March 27, 2023 01:09 PM (ZBPE2)

379
Life in Wartime
This ain't no party
This ain't no disco
This ain't no foolin' around...
Posted by: Barnacle Bill the sailor

Oh great. Now I'm craving peanut butter.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 27, 2023 01:09 PM (n+4am)

380 I think Rove helped get Bush elected. That's different than turning Texas red.

To me.

And not quite germane to the discussion, Eff Rove for helping to get Bush elected.

Posted by: Seems Legit at March 27, 2023 01:09 PM (DcKNO)

381 What if Trump dies? I want an heir and a spare.
Posted by: G'rump928(c)

Don, Jr & Barron.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 27, 2023 01:09 PM (esk9b)

382 Kinzinger is the kind of guy that is he were in the line at the bank and some dude comes in with a gun to rob it, he'd be the first to pee his pants.
Posted by: Diogenes at March 27, 2023 01:00 PM (anj39)
.........

and grab the little old lady in front of him to use as a human shield

Posted by: wth at March 27, 2023 01:10 PM (v0R5T)

383 Yep and let's not forget trump's first pick.....jeff sessions for AG.
Posted by: Mister Scott

No conservative would’ve said Sessions was a bad pick back when it was made.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken

And Mattis was a GREAT pick for SecDef. Until he decided he did not have to follow Presidential Directives.
Donald Trump knew and liked Jeff Sessions since 2005. Sessions was the FIRST major Republican to come out and endorse Donald Trump in 2015.
Does any of this make any sense at this point?

Posted by: Barnacle Bill the sailor at March 27, 2023 01:10 PM (vcOmj)

384 DeSantis just signed school choice legislation. For a secret GOPe operative, he sure is doing a lot of things I like.
Posted by: bonhomme
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EVERY Republican should be running on School Choice, School Vouchers, and even government support for home schoolers.

Something like 80% of the money follows the student, and 20% stays with the parent school for 4 years.

The Teachers Unions are the local Republicans biggest foes with money and organization at the local level. Why not cut their power?

Posted by: rd at March 27, 2023 01:10 PM (Z32m1)

385 Ok, at what point do you stop and say, "wait, I'm defending Karl Rove?"

Because that's.... wow.

He of:
"compassionate conservativism" = accept the leftist criticism that conservatives are mean.
"Faith-based initiatives" = let the left attack conservatives as theocrats

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at March 27, 2023 01:11 PM (1SUOz)

386 > You want a stable family, then you have to stabilize the economics of work as our current system because in a system where almost everyone is a wage slave, depriving them of their main earning power by diluting their wages by offshoring or direct immigration replacement makes them amenable for all sorts of bad things.

I agree that a stable work environment and economy are important. I don't agree that it's the most important step to shoring up society. An educated population with strong families and strong values will suffer in poor economic conditions, but they will work hard and soon escape those conditions if they're not overtly oppressed.

Conversely, a people with weak families and weak values will fail even with a strong economic environment. I believe that's partly why we're seeing so much depression, mental illness, lashing out, and outright ANGER from people who live in OK houses in nice neighborhoods with plenty of food, cars in the garage, and several other amenities a farmer in the 1920s would marvel at.

Posted by: bonhomme at March 27, 2023 01:11 PM (j2Xg6)

387 Are they spies or rinos?

When the country falls and you run into one of these guys, shoot them for extra good karma points.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at March 27, 2023 01:12 PM (ogTP0)

388 Former Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R-IL), now a CNN contributor, said Monday on “CNN This Morning” that he believes Republicans were worshipping former President Donald Trump like Jesus, which is a “real threat” to the United States.

.. Kinzinger must be reliving the Beatles.

What started as "people treat the Beatles better that Jesus Christ" morphed into "The Beatles are more important than Jesus Christ"

Posted by: SMOD at March 27, 2023 01:12 PM (RHGPo)

389 This busty blonde is skeptical of everything involving Ukraine:
https://is.gd/JxNHlH
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

Her face is, well, unfortunate.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 27, 2023

***
She looks something like Cameron Diaz without makeup.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 27, 2023 01:13 PM (J2vNu)

390 Nah. Whig convinced me. As Dickey Bennett would say. "It's a rooose"
Posted by: Chuck C
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Never said that nor have I dissed DeSantis. I dislike Karl Rove which was the subject of the discussion here and now and right now there is an assertion that Rove and former Bushies are advising DeSantis--not an actual smoking gun yet.

BTW, Florida is sixth on the list for school choice-you would have to give both Arkansas and WV among others props for getting there first.

Posted by: whig at March 27, 2023 01:13 PM (jOFQQ)

391 The "big tent" = accept the leftist smear that Republicans are racist with the added bonus of f ing over conservatives to woo those mythical moderates.
The "never speak ill or fight back against the Dems" = allow all their charges to stand

Name one thing good Rove did post 2000?
20 years of stagnant swamp water, is that our new hero cause we gotta defend Ron?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at March 27, 2023 01:14 PM (1SUOz)

392 I agree that a stable work environment and economy are important. I don't agree that it's the most important step to shoring up society. An educated population with strong families and strong values will suffer in poor economic conditions, but they will work hard and soon escape those conditions if they're not overtly oppressed.

Conversely, a people with weak families and weak values will fail even with a strong economic environment. I believe that's partly why we're seeing so much depression, mental illness, lashing out, and outright ANGER from people who live in OK houses in nice neighborhoods with plenty of food, cars in the garage, and several other amenities a farmer in the 1920s would marvel at. Posted by: bonhomme
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I was addressing the underclass more than the uber class. The upper class is terrified about their position in society so they have adopted every trend coming down the pike vomited by the oligarchs through the media instead of looking inwards toward themselves.

Posted by: whig at March 27, 2023 01:16 PM (jOFQQ)

393 In a sign of fear that insects might be associated with Italian cuisine, three government ministers called a press conference in Rome to announce four decrees aimed at a crackdown. "It's fundamental that these flours are not confused with food made in Italy," Francesco Lollobrigida, the agriculture minister, said.

Packed with vitamins, proteins and minerals, flour made from crickets is increasingly seen as an ecological way to obtain nutrients. EU has already authorised foods made from crickets, locusts and the darkling beetle larva, and in January added mealworm larvae
Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at March 27, 2023 12:51 PM (MFZ8i)

Don't "segregate" the bug dust on the shelves. Fucking ban its sale outright. Ban its inclusion into any prepared food products, too.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 27, 2023 01:17 PM (tkR6S)

394 And they were in D-Day, Market Garden, The Bulge and Solomon Islands.

They didn't speak much about their real experiences.

Posted by: Archer at March 27, 2023 12:47 PM (gmo/4)

Which location is not like the rest. If he's claiming that, then it's all bullshit.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at March 27, 2023 01:19 PM (BdMk6)

395
Does any of this make any sense at this point?
Posted by: Barnacle Bill
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Yes, our elites at the top of the pinnacle here by and large agree with the elites of other countries rather than the citizens here.

The reaction is against America First and incidentally Trump which is why the Uniparty has tried so hard to stamp it out in every institution that they control. A nation run for the benefit of its citizens broadly speaking is an anathema to the ruling class.

Posted by: whig at March 27, 2023 01:19 PM (jOFQQ)

396 Which location is not like the rest. If he's claiming that, then it's all bullshit.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at March 27, 2023 01:19 PM (BdMk6)

uncles. plural.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Lookin' for me wooden leg at March 27, 2023 01:24 PM (UQUAY)

397 Which location is not like the rest. If he's claiming that, then it's all bullshit.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at March 27, 2023 01:19 PM

Notice he said uncle(S) plural.

Posted by: Minnfidel at March 27, 2023 01:35 PM (GwxCX)

398 If a guy called 'Rip Rawlings' turns up to ask you to be on the board of his questionable gun-running charity and you go "sounds legit!", you deserve whatevers coming to you.

Posted by: stv at March 27, 2023 02:06 PM (/dqoc)

399 You make Hero sound Like some kind of Weird Sandwich

Posted by: Oddball at March 27, 2023 03:05 PM (B6/T0)

400 Sounds like someone Biden would want for his Cabinet

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at March 27, 2023 04:43 PM (wGqjj)

401 Herr Kinzinger is a devoted Nazi.

Posted by: Vylydymyr Cocainskyy at March 27, 2023 06:41 PM (YIVgp)

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