Weaponization of Government Subcommitee Issues Interim Report on Biden's Use of the FBI and Counterrorism Resources to Harass Parents Objecting to Woke School Boards

I don't know if any of this is actually new.

I previously wrote that Jim Jordan was deliberately understaffing his committee -- for what purpose, I don't know.

Five full-time staffers. Five.

It almost seems like he doesn't want to find anything wrong with His Very Good Friends at the DOJ and FBI.

Here's the more interesting snippets from the report. From the executive summary:

From the initial set of material produced in response to the subpoenas, it is apparent that the Biden Administration misused federal law-enforcement and counterterrorism resources for political purposes. The Justice Department's own documents demonstrate that there was no compelling nationwide law-enforcement justification for the Attorney General's directive or the Department components' execution thereof. After surveying local law enforcement, U.S. Attorney's offices around the country reported back to Main Justice that there was no legitimate law-enforcement basis for the Attorney General's directive to use federal law-enforcement and
counterterrorism resources to investigate school board-related threats. For example:

* One U.S. Attorney reported that "this issue was very poorly received" by his local law-enforcement community and "described by some as a manufactured issue."2 He
continued: "No one I spoke with in law enforcement seemed to think that there is a
serious national threat directed at school boards, which gave the impression that our
priorities are misapplied."

* Another U.S. Attorney's Office reported that the local FBI field office in the area "did
not see any imminent threats to school boards or their members . . . , nor did they
ascertain any worrisome trends in that regard.

* Local law-enforcement officials noted that local officials should properly respond to
school board threats. In Montana, several law-enforcement offices rightly advised the
Justice Department that "local law enforcement authorities are best suited to address
criminal threats against school board administrators."

* Most threats reported back to Main Justice had little connection to school board matters. For example, the Southern District of Alabama reported that although one of the school board member's houses was shot at, the incident was the "unfortunate consequence of gun violence in the city" and not related to school board decisions or policies.

The documents received pursuant to the Committee's subpoena show the absence of a legitimate nationwide basis for the Attorney General's directive to insert federal law enforcement into local school board matters. The documents also shed light onto how the Administration worked with education special interests to generate the predicate for the Attorney General's directive. It appears, from these documents and the information received previously, that the Administration's actions were a political offensive meant to quell swelling discord over controversial education curricula and unpopular school board decisions.

I mean, yes..? The report provides some detail later on, but we've known the DOJ and White House colluded with the NSBA to produce the letter which would then be used to justify the weaponization of government against parents for... at least two years, right?

The Attorney General's directive came just weeks before a pivotal gubernatorial election in Virginia, in which education policies were hotly debated and a local school board's actions were under intense scrutiny.7 The inference from the initial tranche of subpoenaed documents is that the Justice Department's actions were a reaction to these political circumstances rather than a legitimate law-enforcement response to any serious, nationwide threat.

In response to the Committee's subpoena, the FBI acknowledged for the first time that it opened 25 "Guardian assessments" of school board threats, and that six of these investigations were run by the FBI's Counterterrorism Division.

These admissions supplement whistleblower disclosures about the FBI's actions, including disclosures the FBI investigated a mom because she belonged to a "right-wing mom's group" and "is a gun owner" and a dad because "he rails against the government." According to the FBI, none of the school board-related investigations have resulted in federal arrests or charges, highlighting the political motives behind the Attorney General's actions. The Administration's goal seems to have been silencing the critics of its radical education policies and neutralizing an issue that was threatening Democrat Party prospects in the close gubernatorial race in Virginia.

This weaponization of law-enforcement powers against American parents exercising their First Amendment rights is dangerous. The Justice Department subjected moms and dads to the opening of an FBI investigation about them, the establishment of an FBI case file that includes their political views, and the application of a "threat tag" to their names as a direct result of their exercise of their fundamental constitutional right to speak and advocate for their children.

We've long known the FBI created a "threat tag" to brand parents as terrorist in their government files.

Here is some more detail about the collusion of Biden and Merrick Garland on the letter supposedly written by the National School Board Association, but really drafted in consultation with, and with the recommended additions proposed by, the White House and DOJ:

* The NSBA collaborated with the Biden White House to develop the language of the
NSBA's September 29, 2021 letter to President Biden urging the use of federal law-
enforcement and counterterrorism tools, including the Patriot Act, against parents.

* The NSBA shared the draft language of its letter with the White House, which apparently raised no concerns with the reference to counterterrorism tools or the inclusion of the Patriot Act in the letter.

* Five days after the NSBA letter to President Biden, on October 4, Attorney General
Garland issued a memorandum that inserted federal law enforcement into local school board meetings.

* Attorney General Garland established a task force--including the Department's National Security Division, with responsibility for enforcing federal counterterrorism statutes--to examine school board-related threats and highlighted the FBI's National Threat Operations Center to serve as a snitch-line for tips about parents at school board meetings.

* In testimony to the Committee, Attorney General Garland admitted that the sole basis of his memorandum was the NSBA letter sent to President Biden.

* On October 20, 2021, the FBI's Counterterrorism and Criminal Divisions operationalized the Attorney General's directive, announcing to all FBI special agents in charge the creation of a new threat tag--EDUOFFICIALS--to track school board-related threats.

Yes yes, but we knew all that.

I know this is an interim report, not a final one, but I just don't trust Jim Jordan to do anything more than rehash old New York Post stories.

Here are more details about those Domestic Terrorist moms the straight-shooters at the FBI investigated:

* In one investigation, an FBI field office interviewed a mom for allegedly telling a local school board "we are coming for you." The complaint, which came into the FBI through the National Threat Operations Center snitch-line, alleged that the mom was a threat because she belonged to a "right wing mom's group" known as "Moms for Liberty" and because she "is a gun owner." When the FBI interviewed the mom, she told the agent that she was upset about the school board's mask mandates and that her statement was a warning that her organization would seek to replace the school board with new members through the electoral process.

* An FBI field office opened an investigation into a dad opposed to mask mandates. The complaint came in through the National Threat Operations Center snitch-line and alleged that the dad "fit the profile of an insurrectionist" because he "rails against the government," "believes all conspiracy theories," and "has a lot of guns and threatens to use them." When an FBI agent interviewed the complainant, the complainant admitted they had "no specific information or observations of . . . any crimes or threats," but they contacted the FBI after learning the Justice Department had a website "to submit tips to the FBI in regards to any concerning behavior directed toward school boards."

* In another case, an FBI field office opened an investigation into Republican state elected officials after a state Democrat party official accused them of making an "online terroristic threat by politicians against school board members." This complaint also came into the FBI through the National Threat Operations Center snitch-line. It alleged that one Republican official "incited violence" against school board members by expressing displeasure with school districts' vaccine mandates.

These complaints were invited by Merrick Garland, the report says. One might say that he went Complaint Shopping, and widely informed the public that he would pay top dollar for complaints about Republican parents, no matter how thin or stupid the allegation.

One more excerpt: The White House and DOE had already been coordinating with leftwing groups to justify a federal crackdown on dissent against leftwing woke schoolboards.

A. Prior to the October 4 memorandum, the Department of Education and White
House worked with a left-leaning group to promote calls for federal law-
enforcement intervention.

On September 16, 2021, CEO of the National Association of Secondary School
Principals (NASSP) Ronn Nozoe emailed Mary C. Wall, of the White House COVID-19
Response Team, about NASSP's September 16, 2021, press release calling for the "federal government to protect school leaders from threats and violence." Mr. Nozoe asked Ms. Wall to share it with her networks. That same day, employees at the Department of Education set a meeting to discuss the NASSP's press release. The Education Department redacted much of these internal communications among its employees, preventing the Committee from fully understanding the nature and circumstances of these discussions.

On September 20, 2021, Dr. Aaliyah Samuel, Deputy Assistant Secretary, Local, State
and National Engagement in the Office of Communications and Outreach at the Department of Education, emailed Mr. Nozoe requesting a time to talk.28 Mr. Nozoe sent an email with the following three requests:

* "Build safe zones around schools -- similar to drug free zones. Make it a federal crime to threaten any educator/school staff on school property."

* "Set up a 911 Network to report physical and social threats. Establish an ombudsman at the federal level with a direct line to the FBI/Justice Department. Do not leave it solely up to local authorities to determine the severity of the threats."

* "Provide legal protections for all educators by creating a legal defense fund so school leaders who have been maligned in their community can get legal assistance to protect/repair their reputations. . . . [W]e are asking for a fund to be set up so school leaders who have had their reputations smeared in public/social media/local media because of mask/no mask vax/no vax mandates do not have to dig into their personal savings to hire attorneys for defamation of character/slander legal action necessary to clear their names."

Dr. Samuel forwarded the chain to other employees at the Department of Education, but the Department redacted the majority of the content of these communications. Additionally, Dr. Samuel added Ms. Wall to an email thread among Department of Education officials discussing the NASSP's requests, but Ms. Wall's message back to the group was also redacted.

Why are the communications of government officials being redacted? There is no privacy interest in how an alleged civil servant does his or her job.

Over at the Epoch Times, a report on FBI whistleblower Steve Friend. He says the FBI is now just the armed enforcement wing of the Democrat Party.

There's a growing divide between the rank-and-file officers of the FBI and upper management, according to FBI agent-turned-whistleblower Steve Friend, and it's those at the top who are pushing a political agenda.

...

"I think there's an argument to be made that the FBI has now just become a weaponized apparatchik of the presidential administration," he added, holding that public trust in the agency has diminished largely as a result of the perception of political bias.

Friend--now a senior fellow at the Center for Renewing America--previously worked as a special agent in the FBI's Jacksonville, Florida, office, but was suspended from the agency after he came forward last September with concerns about how the bureau was handling child sexual abuse cases and allegations that cases were being inappropriately assigned.

Friend had also objected to the FBI's use of SWAT teams to arrest individuals suspected of committing misdemeanors during the Jan. 6 Capitol breach.

Speaking of Steve Friend -- Kyle Shideler forwarded to me this report from J. Michael Waller about Steve Friend's allegations.

He said that FBI bosses can get bonuses of up to five figures for meeting a quota of investigations opened -- including for "domestic terrorism."

So Biden is incentivizing FBI bosses to open as many "domestic terrorism" cases as possible, and rewarding them with cash money if they meet or exceed their quota.

Here's the interview with Friend he's referencing. Note that this goes back to January.

J Michael Waller
@JMichaelWaller

Jan 31

I just listened to Steve Baker's entire podcast with FBI whistleblower @RealSteveFriend
.
A sincere, enlightening look at the inner workings of the @FBI
at the field level, and how weaponization of the bureaucracy tries to crush agents for following their conscience. @TPC4USA

1) Thread of paraphrasings and quotations from suspended FBI special agent @realSteveFriend (SF) in the @TPC4USA podcast:

FBI HQ shut down investigations into child porn, child exploitation, and human trafficking to pursue misdemeanor cases against J6 trespassers.

2) FBI HQ opened up hundreds of J6 'domestic terrorism' cases in field offices across the country in part to inflate its domestic terrorism statistics and to check the boxes so that SES-level agents could get more promotions and pay.

3) SF: Heads of @FBI field offices 'get bonuses for essentially having met certain standards they set for themselves the prior year, how many domestic terrorism cases are we going to have open ... there is a demand for that are vastly exceeding the supply.'

4) SF: 'what's going on with J6 is atypical. I've arrested over 150 violent criminals in my career in the FBI. Not once did I have to use a tactical team, or a team of 30 agents with full body armor.'

5) After SF raised concerns with his @FBI supervisor about 'the process being the punishment,' in politicized cases, the supervisor agreed, then said SF should think about his career and urged him to get counseling. SF was then suspended without pay, indefinitely.

6) The FBI supervisor of the Joint Terrorism Task Force in Jacksonville voiced concerns about the legitimacy of the J6 'investigations,' but then he got promoted and kept his opinions to himself.

7) FBI skirts whistleblower protection laws by invoking national security to turn the screws on its own agents.

It suspends their security clearances, rendering them unable to work in the FBI, then suspends them without pay because they are not working, SF says.

8 ) Because indefinitely suspended FBI personnel are still considered FBI employees, they cannot get outside work. FBI Office of Integrity Compliance must approve requests to do outside work. In these cases, it denies the requests in order to deny him income.

9) This is one way the FBI leadership prevents more agents from coming forward. More than two dozen FBI special agents have already done so, however, most anonymously.

10) FBI then leaks derogatory personal information from whistleblowers' confidential personnel files to friendly reporters in order to discredit the critics. This is a crime, but FBI officials do it anyway with impunity. Nobody will investigate the crime.

Many whistleblowers refused to come forward during the Benghazi "investigation." Chuck Grassley is a prideful man, and is convinced that his weak-sister whistleblower protection law is enough to protect those who report on government abuse. The whistleblowers say "It isn't enough, you need to make these protections stronger" -- like, perhaps, making it a more serious felony to leak details from a personnel file in reprisal, among other things -- but Grassley refused.

And so the whistleblowers who were leaking information anonymously refused to come forward.

I hear the same thing is going on with the FBI whistleblowers. Yes, they are coming forward anonymously, but they do not think this committee is serious, and they do not believe they are actually protected against government reprisal.

They believe that coming forward will result in 1, nothing actually changing in government and 2, them being trashed in the press and then forced out of their jobs. So they will have ended their careers and put their families in financial harm for nothing.

I don't see anything in this report to change my mind on this.

It feels like defenders of the Regime like Jordan and Grassley want to play "reformer" at the fringes, but don't really want to empower whistleblowers to come forward to testify with complete immunity from reprisal. It's as if they want to keep government whistleblowers in check, and always empower the government to punish them if they really threaten to tell the government's secrets.

Comments

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1 first.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 23, 2023 06:04 PM (ncXxy)

2 And this is a monster post.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 23, 2023 06:04 PM (ncXxy)

3 first?

Posted by: Archer at March 23, 2023 06:04 PM (gmo/4)

4 rats

Posted by: Archer at March 23, 2023 06:05 PM (gmo/4)

5 ".......the establishment of an FBI case file that includes their political views,"


Sounds like someone needs to get a hot shot civil rights lawyer and make the fib pay up big bucks. This is unconstitutional as fvck.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 23, 2023 06:05 PM (ncXxy)

6 A report!

Well, I take back all the nasty things I've said about feckless Republicans resembling drunken bonobos fucking a football against its leathery will.

Now, if only the House had some lever for exercising control, like the ability to defund activities etc.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at March 23, 2023 06:06 PM (ppBhU)

7 En fuego!

Posted by: That Other Guy who shouts "En fuego!" at March 23, 2023 06:06 PM (a3Q+t)

8 5 that requires the system to actually work like it is supposed to work. Do you believe it would?

Posted by: Piper at March 23, 2023 06:07 PM (ZdaMQ)

9 Willowed, but

I'm going to try this tomorrow to pair with my chicken fried steak, gravy and mashed potatoes. Mushy peas.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iowryGK02S4

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at March 23, 2023 06:08 PM (EnsGU)

10 "Jim Jordan was deliberately understaffing his committee"

yeah, that is crazy, or corrupt. There is no bigger issue than the overthrow (coup) of our government by a corrupt/globalist DeepState.

Whether they are all bought by China, or by Soros or WEF type oligarchs ... idk. But stolen elections has been the norm for over a decade, imo. Or go back to the FIB removal of Nixon, or the murder of JFK after he wanted to end the CIA ... or does it go back to Lincoln "just wanting to keep the nation together" which ended state sovereignty? ...

Posted by: illiniwek at March 23, 2023 06:08 PM (Cus5s)

11 You mean no one is on record saying, “Fuck off.”

Posted by: Holy Crap at March 23, 2023 06:08 PM (OqXBl)

12 Jim Jordan tweets a lot.

Posted by: Lithiated gp For Refreshment at March 23, 2023 06:09 PM (MvF+J)

13 It's been posted already but The Bee nails it again.

Democrats Vow To Arrest As Many Political Opponents As It Takes To Defeat Fascism

Posted by: polynikes at March 23, 2023 06:09 PM (f+KrF)

14 Are you getting paid by the word, Ace?

2,768 Words 17,696 Characters

I remember struggling to pad out the 500 Word Theme in HS.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 23, 2023 06:09 PM (yQpMk)

15 Maybe Jordan only has 5 'official' staffers to make it look like he's slow walking it, but in reality there are legions of off-the-books minions working towards ha ha ha lol yeah nah never mind.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at March 23, 2023 06:09 PM (9UlRk)

16 I'm just here to watch the country burn.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2023 06:10 PM (EGMaV)

17 16 I'm just here to watch the country burn.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2023 06:10 PM (EGMaV)

*passes baguette*

Posted by: Warai-otoko at March 23, 2023 06:11 PM (9UlRk)

18 *passes baguette*
Posted by: Warai-otoko


Merci. Merci beaucoup.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2023 06:11 PM (EGMaV)

19 Rubies the size of tangerines.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 23, 2023 06:11 PM (yQpMk)

20 Maybe Jordan only has 5 'official' staffers to make it look like he's slow walking it, but in reality there are legions of off-the-books minions working towards ha ha ha lol yeah nah never mind.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at March 23, 2023 06:09 PM (9UlRk)
----
I'll give you credit for *trying* to say that with a straight face...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 23, 2023 06:12 PM (BpYfr)

21 *eats croissant*

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 23, 2023 06:12 PM (Lt/Ht)

22 Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at March 23, 2023 06:12 PM (2YtOq)

23 Ah yes, the tried and true, Trey Gowdy approved, Republican way of handling government abuse, corruption and lawbreaking. Committee Hearings!

Now count on your fingers, boys and girls, just how many committee hearings have ever resulted in real prosections, fines and hard jailtime. And you only have to use ONE HAND and NO FINGERS.
Tick, tick, tick, tick, tick...

That's right! The answer is ABSOLUTE ZERO.

This is why Republicans are not a serious political party when it comes to the law and they are certainly NOT the "Law and Order" party. Look at their actions from 2017-2023 and point out one fucking time they have done diddly shit!

FUCK THE G.O.P.!!!!!

Posted by: Tracy at March 23, 2023 06:12 PM (lmfvP)

24 Steve Friend talks with Bongino:
youtube.com/watch?v=PuK8LjZZ9B4

Posted by: Lithiated gp For Refreshment at March 23, 2023 06:12 PM (MvF+J)

25 Anything from One-Eye about this?

Posted by: ChockyChockyChip at March 23, 2023 06:12 PM (ufJfM)

26 Only 7 of the 30 members of NATO met the 2% GDP minimum spending requirement in 2022. Only the United States, United Kingdom, Greece, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania met the minimum 2% spending limit.

Posted by: Archer at March 23, 2023 06:12 PM (gmo/4)

27 Like climate change radicals raising alarm that the temperature is rising. What's the optimal temperature ?

what's the optimal number of staffers?

Posted by: polynikes at March 23, 2023 06:13 PM (f+KrF)

28 Only 7 of the 30 members of NATO met the 2% GDP minimum spending requirement in 2022. Only the United States, United Kingdom, Greece, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania met the minimum 2% spending limit.
Posted by: Archer at March 23, 2023 06:12 PM (gmo/4)


For Latvia that's a buck fifty.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 23, 2023 06:13 PM (yQpMk)

29 I just finished watching "The Highwaymen." Still irks me the FBI went out of their way to make it look like they were the ones who took out Bonnie and Clyde.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at March 23, 2023 06:14 PM (2YtOq)

30 It feels like defenders of the Regime like Jordan and Grassley want to play "reformer" at the fringes, but don't really want to empower whistleblowers to come forward to testify with complete immunity from reprisal. It's as if they want to keep government whistleblowers in check, and always empower the government to punish them if they really threaten to tell the government's secrets.

Posted by: Ace at 06:03 PM
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That seems to be true of most whistle-blower "protections." Even if you are "protected" by law, there are a thousand petty ways for employers to harass you into quitting or getting fired.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 23, 2023 06:14 PM (BpYfr)

31

On the good news side, the weaponized FIB hasn't sewn our assholes shut.

Yet.

Posted by: Flo Taintsniffer at March 23, 2023 06:14 PM (sb9Pd)

32 Watching the Congressional hearings on this subject were beyond maddening.

Congresscritter: Why are you using counter-terrorism resources and methods against parents at school board meetings?

Liar Garland: We're only using those resources against legitimate threats.

Critter: Well, the letter that inspired your action only has these specific incidents mentioned. Do these sound like terrorism to you?

Liar Garland: I can't talk about ongoing investigations.

Critter: I need to know you're not using these resources to go after parents with legitimate grievances against schools.

Liar Garland: I can't talk about ongoing investigations.

Posted by: bonhomme at March 23, 2023 06:14 PM (V1QHJ)

33 Posted by: Tracy at March 23, 2023 06:12 PM (lmfvP)

I didn't know Congressional committees have charging and arrest powers.

Posted by: polynikes at March 23, 2023 06:15 PM (f+KrF)

34 25 I have been wondering since that post, is Biden the source? Because this sounds like a Biden story. One-eye. He was shifty and wore a bolero, always had a cigarette and was leaning against a lamppost. He carried that lamppost with him everywhere.

Posted by: Piper at March 23, 2023 06:15 PM (ZdaMQ)

35 *eats croissant*
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory


Hello sailor!

Posted by: Mademoiselle Croissant at March 23, 2023 06:15 PM (EGMaV)

36 Posted by: Tracy at March 23, 2023 06:12 PM (lmfvP)

Spot on. These sad circuses are to make the rubes think they have any rights or input into government left so they can go and kill and die needlessly in Eastern Europe once the ruling class is convinced it can survive a nuclear war.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at March 23, 2023 06:16 PM (KSNKu)

37
And this is a monster post.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 23, 2023 06:04 PM

The more you read the more depressing it becomes. I was hoping for an especially cruel 'happy ending' but it was not to be.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at March 23, 2023 06:16 PM (enJYY)

38 > On the good news side, the weaponized FIB hasn't sewn our assholes shut.

What kind of monster would do such a thing to harm such a magical orifice?

Posted by: Shep Smith at March 23, 2023 06:16 PM (V1QHJ)

39 Only 7 of the 30 members of NATO met the 2% GDP minimum spending requirement in 2022. Only the United States, United Kingdom, Greece, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania met the minimum 2% spending limit.


Sorry I left out Poland. They met the requirement.

Posted by: Archer at March 23, 2023 06:16 PM (gmo/4)

40 Jordan is another Gowdy without the Dick-look hair.

People in Ohio should demand more from him.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 23, 2023 06:16 PM (DMyTF)

41 Lot of content, read first

Posted by: Skip at March 23, 2023 06:16 PM (xhxe8)

42 I didn't know Congressional committees have charging and arrest powers.
Posted by: polynikes


I didn't know the Department of Education had federal arrest powers over local school districts.

""Build safe zones around schools -- similar to drug free zones. Make it a federal crime to threaten any educator/school staff on school property."

Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2023 06:17 PM (EGMaV)

43 > I didn't know Congressional committees have charging and arrest powers.

It's such a joke. All the Critters can do is recommend DoJ open a case. Now that DoJ is thoroughly compromised, the only Critters that have any power are on the left.

Posted by: bonhomme at March 23, 2023 06:17 PM (V1QHJ)

44

Cruel happy endings? Yes please!

Posted by: Peter Buttplug at March 23, 2023 06:18 PM (sb9Pd)

45 But that's all they can do, the poor little dears, is sit on their asses raking in cash from various spigots while making asshole speeches and pointless tweets. Who ever thought that Members of the United States Congress had any actual power to do anything? What do you think they are, a second under-over-under-secretary of toenail clippings at the Department of Health and Happy Horseshit or something? They can't just *do* things whenever they want! That would be chaos. And I think it's downright unseemly for Jordan to be flaunting these five staffers like this. I do.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at March 23, 2023 06:18 PM (9UlRk)

46 I'm going to drop my blueshirtyellowtieguy (bsytg) moniker for talking tweeter and sternly worded letter writer guy in favor of 3rd person Jimmy who has those huge sneakers (Seinfeld).

His committee budget is telling us to let them just go through the motions like they always do and accept that as being enough tribulation for America's ham & eggers.

Posted by: micky at March 23, 2023 06:19 PM (3byMq)

47 That payment to FBI managers for opening investigations should not be called a "bonus" system.

It is a Bounty.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 23, 2023 06:19 PM (trdmm)

48 "EDUOFFICIALS"

EDUBOM. Operation Normie Net. UNAPARENT.

I know we have moron authors. Here's a handy online tool to invent names for fictional FBI agent characters:
https://tinyurl.com/48ud2nm5

I like 'Chance Blanton.'

Posted by: Lithiated gp For Refreshment at March 23, 2023 06:19 PM (MvF+J)

49 Heinrich Himmler would be proud of these proclamations. He is up or down there watching with smiles on his face, yes, yes, yes.

Posted by: Colin at March 23, 2023 06:19 PM (8p0Zk)

50
Only 7 of the 30 members of NATO met the 2% GDP minimum spending requirement in 2022. Only the United States, United Kingdom, Greece, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania met the minimum 2% spending limit.
Posted by: Archer

* performs a geographical center computation based on the seven good 'uns *

Well, if I were a Slovene, I'd be scared shitless.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 23, 2023 06:19 PM (pNxlR)

51 Scalp taking, what a novel idea

Posted by: Ben Had at March 23, 2023 06:20 PM (8lqVy)

52 Once again, I'd care a lot more about these things if I actually thought something was going to be done about it and certain people were made to pay for their thuggery.

Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at March 23, 2023 06:20 PM (TU8Tj)

53 43 > I didn't know Congressional committees have charging and arrest powers.

It's such a joke. All the Critters can do is recommend DoJ open a case. Now that DoJ is thoroughly compromised, the only Critters that have any power are on the left.
Posted by: bonhomme at March 23, 2023 06:17 PM (V1QHJ)

They can cut off funding or hold the debt limit "hostage." But cowards are who they are!

There is no bigger issue. Or was, anyhow.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at March 23, 2023 06:20 PM (KSNKu)

54 "Like climate change radicals raising alarm that the temperature is rising. What's the optimal temperature ?"

Temperatures have risen in direct correlation with the number of trannies. There is only ONE (final) Solution to Save the Planet.

Posted by: illiniwek at March 23, 2023 06:20 PM (Cus5s)

55 For Latvia that's a buck fifty.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 23, 2023 06:13 PM (yQpMk)

Some domestic products are grosser than others.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at March 23, 2023 06:20 PM (9UlRk)

56 Hello sailor!
Posted by: Mademoiselle Croissant at March 23, 2023 06:15

If he was doing a good job, wouldn't you be saying "Oh la la!"?

That's what I hear my mom saying when she's having a private consult with Captain Picard.

Posted by: Wesley Crusher at March 23, 2023 06:21 PM (a3Q+t)

57 Shut up, Wesley!

Posted by: Peter Buttplug at March 23, 2023 06:21 PM (sb9Pd)

58 Jim Jordan has released a preliminary committee report?


So, anyways . . .

Posted by: Count de Monet at March 23, 2023 06:22 PM (4I/2K)

59
For Latvia that's a buck fifty ...
Posted by: G'rump928(c)

... same as in town!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 23, 2023 06:22 PM (pNxlR)

60 YouTube is jam packed with clips showing parents sounding off to school boards. Library books, teachers grooming kids, LGBTQblahblahblah badges, QR codes on the bulletin boards that take the kids to tranny sites, shit, it's all so fucking awful.

The most striking thing to me about it all is the board people just sit there like stoics, no expression, no nothing.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at March 23, 2023 06:22 PM (KiBMU)

61 @26 Only 7 of the 30 members of NATO met the 2% GDP minimum spending requirement in 2022. Only the United States, United Kingdom, Greece, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania met the minimum 2% spending limit.

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That's six nations...

Last July, the estimate was that nine nations (the above, plus Poland, the Croats, and the Slovaks) would all hit the two percent requirement. What changed? Also, Romania was estimated to just miss it at 1.99 percent.

Posted by: junior at March 23, 2023 06:23 PM (TtMYo)

62 Interesting dirt on FBI and ATF in the recent Netflix Waco series doc. Worth a watch.

Posted by: Lithiated gp For Refreshment at March 23, 2023 06:23 PM (MvF+J)

63 Jordan is another Gowdy without the Dick-look hair.

People in Ohio should demand more from him.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 23, 2023 06:16 PM

You want them to demand more Gowdyesque hair?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 23, 2023 06:23 PM (a3Q+t)

64 A week or so ago, some source (don't remember) was saying there are more whistleblowers than ever ... BUT, they are getting hesitant to commit, because it looks like Jordan types are not serious, and they will be thrown under the bus. (poor Seth, even though he was a different kind of whistleblower)

Posted by: illiniwek at March 23, 2023 06:24 PM (Cus5s)

65 YouTube is jam packed with clips showing parents sounding off to school boards. Library books, teachers grooming kids, LGBTQblahblahblah badges, QR codes on the bulletin boards that take the kids to tranny sites, shit, it's all so fucking awful.

The most striking thing to me about it all is the board people just sit there like stoics, no expression, no nothing.
Posted by: Mr Gaga

Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2023 06:24 PM (EGMaV)

66 YouTube is jam packed with clips showing parents sounding off to school boards. Library books, teachers grooming kids, LGBTQblahblahblah badges, QR codes on the bulletin boards that take the kids to tranny sites, shit, it's all so fucking awful.

The most striking thing to me about it all is the board people just sit there like stoics, no expression, no nothing.
Posted by: Mr Gaga

I love it when they have their kid check out a book from the school library, and then sit there in the board meeting and read porn to them.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2023 06:24 PM (EGMaV)

67 The most striking thing to me about it all is the board people just sit there like stoics, no expression, no nothing.
Posted by: Mr Gaga at March 23, 2023 06:22 PM (KiBMU)
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Because they know it's completely indefensible. How do you respond to the parents?

About the only thing they can do is sit there in silence and wait for the parents to be hauled out by law enforcement.

They are even more cowardly than Congress critters.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 23, 2023 06:25 PM (BpYfr)

68 You want them to demand more Gowdyesque hair?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 23, 2023 06:23 PM (a3Q+t)

Cavorting around in his shirts with sleeves like some kind of big shot dude with sleeves on his shirts.

Pfffft.

That's just un-american.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at March 23, 2023 06:25 PM (9UlRk)

69 On the good news side, the weaponized FIB hasn't sewn our assholes shut.
........

That would ruin the HUMANCENTiPAD.

Posted by: wth at March 23, 2023 06:25 PM (v0R5T)

70
That's six nations...

NATO Math: New AND Surprisingly Different!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 23, 2023 06:25 PM (pNxlR)

71 I wondered earlier and still do if they called it the Patriot Act because they always intended to use it to go after patriots.

Great inside joke for the elites. Get all the patriots to sell the rope with which they will be hung.

Or it's just an astonishing coincidence.

Posted by: ... at March 23, 2023 06:25 PM (BXxcV)

72

Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2023 06:24 PM

That's your most laconic comment yet, rickb223.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 23, 2023 06:26 PM (a3Q+t)

73 Like climate change radicals raising alarm that the temperature is rising.

Sorry. Can't be helped.

Posted by: Elvis is still a hunka hunka burning love at March 23, 2023 06:26 PM (4I/2K)

74 66 And all praise to Chaya Raichik, who is raising some hell today.

Posted by: Lithiated gp For Refreshment at March 23, 2023 06:26 PM (MvF+J)

75 64 A week or so ago, some source (don't remember) was saying there are more whistleblowers than ever ... BUT, they are getting hesitant to commit, because it looks like Jordan types are not serious, and they will be thrown under the bus. (poor Seth, even though he was a different kind of whistleblower)
Posted by: illiniwek at March 23, 2023 06:24 PM (Cus5s)

Seth.

Edward.

Julian.

The would-be whistle blowers have received the message.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at March 23, 2023 06:26 PM (KSNKu)

76 Its Deep State takeover of the government

Posted by: Skip at March 23, 2023 06:26 PM (xhxe8)

77 That payment to FBI managers for opening investigations should not be called a "bonus" system.

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Huh, and here I thought opening investigations only occurs if there is a legitimate reason to open one. Not to earn bonuses. In a business such as theirs, that is an obvious path to over-investigating (targeting).

Posted by: Lady in Black at March 23, 2023 06:26 PM (sVtYq)

78 [Fox News:] "Rep. Tiffany asks why Hunter Biden hasn't been prosecuted for alleged gun crime at ATF hearing"

After a Dem objected to the question, match, his retort:

"I understand why you do not want Mr. Wilcox to answer that question," he [Tiffany] said. "Because there's a dual system of justice in America. That's what's going on right now. And everybody's talking about it across America. There’s two standards of justice that are going on."

https://tinyurl.com/52z86d3z

Posted by: ShainS -- The Abolition of The West is from Men Without Chests at March 23, 2023 06:27 PM (TIFe0)

79 The most striking thing to me about it all is the board people just sit there like stoics, no expression, no nothing.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at March 23, 2023 06:22 PM (KiBMU)

Practicing for when they're on the Death Panels.

Posted by: ... at March 23, 2023 06:27 PM (BXxcV)

80 I wonder if congress critters have figured out the FBI will come after them? Or, if they think they're safe because not Trump?

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at March 23, 2023 06:27 PM (2YtOq)

81
Interesting dirt on FBI and ATF in the recent Netflix Waco series doc. Worth a watch.

Posted by: Lithiated gp For Refreshment

Oops. Too late to watch, I cancelled when they talked about putting password sharers in jail. I don't watch, don't wanna watch, but wife and daughter do. That's two users. What I paid for. Who GAF if they're in two different states?

Posted by: Divide by Zero at March 23, 2023 06:27 PM (enJYY)

82 Re-Former! Yo Say me daddy grassley say fuckem.
Another Whistleblower down.

repeat 45 times, and it sounds very much like a Snow Joint.

Posted by: Wickedpinto at March 23, 2023 06:27 PM (uYcrO)

83 "The most striking thing to me about it all is the board people just sit there like stoics, no expression, no nothing."

Well, sometimes they press the Mute Button, so there's that.

Posted by: Lithiated gp For Refreshment at March 23, 2023 06:28 PM (MvF+J)

84 wonder if congress critters have figured out the FBI will come after them? Or, if they think they're safe because not Trump?

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at March 23, 2023 06:27 PM (2YtOq)

Likely going off the promise to be eaten last.

Posted by: ... at March 23, 2023 06:29 PM (BXxcV)

85 "Because they know it's completely indefensible. How do you respond to the parents?" Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel

and/or ... they feel they are the Moral Guardians, but they can't explain their "higher math" to the troglodyte Christians that can't add.

OR, they are in a cult that sacrifices children, and have learned to love the power and supremacy.

Posted by: illiniwek at March 23, 2023 06:29 PM (Cus5s)

86 Jim Jordan has released a preliminary committee report


Nice work, Jim. That will show em'!!

Failure Theater. All just Bread and Circus for the masses.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at March 23, 2023 06:30 PM (OTXUv)

87 80 I wonder if congress critters have figured out the FBI will come after them? Or, if they think they're safe because not Trump?
Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at March 23, 2023 06:27 PM (2YtOq)

The ones who actually are in opposition to the police state apparatus may be fearful. The rest are down with it and likely profit greatly from keeping their mouths shut and the Ukraine grift flowing.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at March 23, 2023 06:30 PM (KSNKu)

88 "They believe that coming forward will result in 1, nothing actually changing in government and 2, them being trashed in the press and then forced out of their jobs."

Number 1 for sure.

Posted by: Lithiated gp For Refreshment at March 23, 2023 06:31 PM (MvF+J)

89 Now if only Hugo Boss was alive, he could design some snappy uniforms for the various US government police agencies.

Posted by: Colin at March 23, 2023 06:31 PM (8p0Zk)

90 If the FBI has the manpower to mount a raid to arrest a Pastor for a crime he didn't commit, then, the FBI has wat too many agents. Also, it appears field offices have incentives to open up frivolous investigations in order to justify their manpower.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at March 23, 2023 06:32 PM (2YtOq)

91 There's nothing Republicans do better than Committees and Hearings.

It combines their three favorite activities: face time, grandstanding and doing nothing.

Posted by: ... at March 23, 2023 06:32 PM (BXxcV)

92 Once democracy is dead you can't vote it back in.

Posted by: Next2Nothing at March 23, 2023 06:33 PM (tA1/w)

93 QR codes on the bulletin boards that take the kids to tranny sites, shit, it's all so fucking awful.

The most striking thing to me about it all is the board people just sit there like stoics, no expression, no nothing.
Posted by: Mr Gaga at March 23, 2023 06:22 PM (KiBMU)

Gee, that would be awfully easy to fuck with. Replace with a QR code that takes kids to a shooting range site. You know damned well the mooks that post that shit aren't going to go back and scan it again themselves.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 23, 2023 06:33 PM (tkR6S)

94 Gee, it sounds like we aren't really dampening the weaponization of government if we can't protect whistle blowers from the reprisals of people in power.

And the idea that we have put structures into the DOJ to cater to the bizarre mental concoctions of liberals ... that's just Clown Posse of Clown World scary.

"That guy with a Trump sticker on his van! He says that the schools are run all wrong! I can imagine that guy BLOWING UP A SCHOOL!! (Because libs have active imaginations)"

FIB: "Thank you for that report. You're a fine American".

I mean, Mary Cloggenstein has more access to the DOJ than a sane, coherent citizen does now.

Posted by: Axeman at March 23, 2023 06:33 PM (krQz2)

95 90 If the FBI has the manpower to mount a raid to arrest a Pastor for a crime he didn't commit, then, the FBI has wat too many agents. Also, it appears field offices have incentives to open up frivolous investigations in order to justify their manpower.
Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at March 23, 2023 06:32 PM (2YtOq)

The one thing the House could do is slash its budget. The FBI budget has increased every year since it was confirmed it acts as a secret police agency. Two of those years were under total Republican control of Congress. This speaks for itself.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at March 23, 2023 06:34 PM (KSNKu)

96 There's nothing Republicans do better than Committees and Hearings.

It combines their three favorite activities: face time, grandstanding and doing nothing.
Posted by: ... at March 23, 2023 06:32 PM

And fundraising. Never forget the fundraising.

Posted by: Your GOPe at March 23, 2023 06:34 PM (Wnv9h)

97 What's amazing isn't that they think these abusive tactics won't be used against them so no big deal.

It's that they HAVE been used against them and they STILL are acting like it's no big deal.

I mean, the Capitol Police illegally searched their offices, the J6 Committee illegally got their phone records and texts, they have ran several elected Republicans out of office on false charges.

And yet, Fat Jim is more worried about next weeks menu in the cafeteria.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at March 23, 2023 06:34 PM (/LGx4)

98 If the FBI has the manpower to mount a raid to arrest a Pastor for a crime he didn't commit, then, the FBI has wat too many agents. Also, it appears field offices have incentives to open up frivolous investigations in order to justify their manpower.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at March 23, 2023 06:32 PM (2YtOq)

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Somebody has to investigate the hundreds of daily reports of nooses being spotted. In an odd coincidence, they seem to crop up around men's suits & clothing stores.

Posted by: ShainS -- The Abolition of The West is from Men Without Chests at March 23, 2023 06:35 PM (TIFe0)

99 And fundraising. Never forget the fundraising.

Posted by: Your GOPe at March 23, 2023 06:34 PM (Wnv9h)

I knew I'd left that out but I wanted it snappy.

Posted by: ... at March 23, 2023 06:35 PM (BXxcV)

100 What's going to be Chip Roy's play in the rinoing of RD after rushing to his defence and endorsing him now that Ron has done the 180 on our precious Ukraine?

Posted by: micky at March 23, 2023 06:35 PM (3byMq)

101 So it's the mafia, but with President's Day off.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at March 23, 2023 06:35 PM (D6l9B)

102 Isn't it nice to know even if the budget for the FBI were cut, they'd most likely tank actual criminal investigations just so they could stick it to Congress?

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at March 23, 2023 06:36 PM (2YtOq)

103 I mean, Mary Cloggenstein has more access to the DOJ than a sane, coherent citizen does now.
Posted by: Axeman at March 23, 2023 06:33 PM

And we will *never* get the smell of patchouli and cat piss out of our office.

Posted by: The Brattleboro FBI field office at March 23, 2023 06:36 PM (Wnv9h)

104 "There’s two standards of justice that are going on."

that is a concise "meme". But we need one better than that. These are not two systems of "justice". It is one system of persecuting political enemies (for non-crimes, where evidence is fabricated) --

... while protecting political allies (from real crimes, where evidence is buried and destroyed) -- "that is under investigation, we can't reveal for a decade, and even then the pertinent details will be redacted.

Posted by: illiniwek at March 23, 2023 06:36 PM (Cus5s)

105 100 What's going to be Chip Roy's play in the rinoing of RD after rushing to his defence and endorsing him now that Ron has done the 180 on our precious Ukraine?
Posted by: micky at March 23, 2023 06:35 PM (3byMq)

Cash the check.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at March 23, 2023 06:37 PM (KSNKu)

106 Isn't it nice to know even if the budget for the FBI were cut, they'd most likely tank actual criminal investigations just so they could stick it to Congress?

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at March 23, 2023 06:36 PM


Pretty sure they would double down and keep up with the woke $hit. That plus biden would move money around to keep them funded at the expense of other National Security priorities, i.e. the border.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 23, 2023 06:37 PM (ncXxy)

107 "FBI Hotline? I saw Donnie Trump kissin' the Devil in the woods!"

Posted by: Axeman at March 23, 2023 06:38 PM (krQz2)

108 104 But we need one better than that.

Our forefathers named it: Tyranny

Posted by: Next2Nothing at March 23, 2023 06:38 PM (tA1/w)

109 Actual terrorists shoot back.

That's why the Tissue Men at the FBI only go after middle-age white people

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at March 23, 2023 06:38 PM (/LGx4)

110 Exactly. There's nothing standard about any of it and there's no justice. It's just tyranny.

Posted by: ... at March 23, 2023 06:39 PM (BXxcV)

111 108 please get your own material

Posted by: ... at March 23, 2023 06:39 PM (BXxcV)

112 > Now if only Hugo Boss was alive, he could design some snappy uniforms for the various US government police agencies.

Just so you know, it's a myth that Hugo Boss designed the SS uniforms. HB did help manufacture them with Nazi provided slave labor. HB was also a big Hitler supporter.

Posted by: bonhomme at March 23, 2023 06:40 PM (V1QHJ)

113 I just today binge watched "Waco, American Apocalypse" as was previously mentioned.
I thought it was very biased to the Feds.
That event changed me profoundly. I've never had the same attitude since regarding our government.
30 years ago right about now.

Posted by: gourmand du jour, waxing foolisophical at March 23, 2023 06:40 PM (jTmQV)

114 There's nothing Republicans do better than Committees and Hearings.

Especially when any bills they do pass are guaranteed a veto by either the other house or the president, don’t forget that.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at March 23, 2023 06:40 PM (EXyHK)

115 Colin black and silver decorations has been done

Posted by: Skip at March 23, 2023 06:40 PM (xhxe8)

116 I thought having a chilling effect on free speech was supposed to be a BAD thing, not a raison d'etre for law enforcement agencies.

Posted by: Who knew? at March 23, 2023 06:41 PM (B0ahs)

117 "FBI Hotline? I saw Donnie Trump kissin' the Devil in the woods!"
Posted by: Axeman at March 23, 2023 06:38 PM

I saw Trump dancing naked on the village green with Goody Whemper!

Posted by: A woke teen at March 23, 2023 06:41 PM (Wnv9h)

118 I thought having a chilling effect on free speech was supposed to be a BAD thing, not a raison d'etre for law enforcement agencies.

Posted by: Who knew? at March 23, 2023 06:41 PM (B0ahs)
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They very seldom said the quiet part out loud.

Posted by: Axeman at March 23, 2023 06:42 PM (krQz2)

119 Cash the check.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat

Are you saying DeSantis/Roy 2024?
Vote for us we're out there being serial rinos who you can totally trust...

Posted by: micky at March 23, 2023 06:42 PM (3byMq)

120 I hope you're not right.

I think there is some value in having everything recorded and correlated all in one place even if it is all stuff we already knew. Also, we're uncommonly well informed about this sort of misuse of government power. Any hint of it gets reported HERE. So we know. But other people probably didn't notice as much.

I'm sort of hoping that the thin staffing is about having staff that is trustworthy and not going to participate in only passing on certain information to the committee. Since that seems to be what the J6 committee staff did and committee members were fed curated information before they'd even started.

Someone has to be the optimist, right?

Posted by: Synova at March 23, 2023 06:42 PM (BD/yx)

121 I thought having a chilling effect on free speech was supposed to be a BAD thing, not a raison d'etre for law enforcement agencies.

Posted by: Who knew? at March 23, 2023 06:41 PM (B0ahs)
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And it's called "reform".

Posted by: Axeman at March 23, 2023 06:42 PM (krQz2)

122 116 I thought having a chilling effect on free speech was supposed to be a BAD thing, not a raison d'etre for law enforcement agencies.
Posted by: Who knew? at March 23, 2023 06:41 PM (B0ahs)

The president of freaking Mexico ridiculed the police state nature of the USA yesterday.

Mexico.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at March 23, 2023 06:42 PM (KSNKu)

123 The president of freaking Mexico ridiculed the police state nature of the USA yesterday.

Mexico.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at March 23, 2023 06:42 PM


Bad part is....he wasn't wrong.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 23, 2023 06:44 PM (ncXxy)

124 As mentioned Hitler would have been an anonymous loudmouth but forgotten Chancellor if he didn't have the national police on his side.
He didn't make the attests. He didn't run the terror campaigns. He didn't spy.

He didn't do any of that. He had no power. But: The national police loyal to him alone gave him that power.

And the FBI is our national police intensely loyal to one party.

The fascism the left was always warning us about is here, birthed by them.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at March 23, 2023 06:44 PM (/LGx4)

125 That's a whole lotta words and navel-gazing for the simple FACT that the government criminalized and persecuted Americans expressing their anger at tyranny. Something that is spelled out pretty dang thoroughly in the numero uno Amendment.

Doesn't take committees. Doesn't take weeks, months, years of congressional testimony. Doesn't take pontificating. Fire the offenders and move on.

Posted by: Russkilitlover at March 23, 2023 06:45 PM (iyVGU)

126 Well, if Donny two-scoops was behind this, it would be impeachment #3! But Joey is a Dem, so no foul.

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at March 23, 2023 06:45 PM (AcLxR)

127 "defenders of the Regime"
Ace, this is your BBQ and it is good, but there's a point where you end up mad at people who are trying to help.

Posted by: hurricane567@gmail.com at March 23, 2023 06:46 PM (BuVfc)

128 The president of freaking Mexico ridiculed the police state nature of the USA yesterday.

Mexico.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at March 23, 2023 06:42 PM (KSNKu)
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We are fast becoming butt-monkey to the world thanks to the FJB junta. Even third-world countries look down on our government as the assclowns they are.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 23, 2023 06:47 PM (BpYfr)

129 I saw Donnie pegging Santa Claus!!

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Lookin' for me wooden leg at March 23, 2023 06:47 PM (UQUAY)

130
113 I just today binge watched "Waco, American Apocalypse" as was previously mentioned.
I thought it was very biased to the Feds.
That event changed me profoundly. I've never had the same attitude since regarding our government.
30 years ago right about now.
Posted by: gourmand du jour, waxing foolisophical at March 23, 2023 06:40 PM (jTmQV)

Netflix had another Waco series maybe a year ago? that dragged the Feds HARD. So maybe this was their way of making up for it.

Ruby Ridge and Waco did it for me regarding the fedgov. Kelly Thomas was the final straw for the rest of the cops. I'd trust a fucking rattlesnake more than any of those motherfuckers.

With due exception to Wyatt Earp.

Posted by: Yep. Changed a lot of minds and hearts they did. at March 23, 2023 06:47 PM (B0ahs)

131 Philly pays rioters 10 million. Wyatt should be here to explain the common cop's view of city funds being used this way. Need a Neil Young song event, just sayin. Clown world.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at March 23, 2023 06:48 PM (oWBc3)

132 The Patriot Act took the porn out of the public libraries and added it to the school libraries ....

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at March 23, 2023 06:48 PM (/LGx4)

133 So it's the mafia, but with President's Day off.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at March 23, 2023 06:35 PM (D6l9B)

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And everyone is protected from the bosses on down to the lieutenants and down to the lowest thugs, fixers, & snitches ... not to mention the generous pensions.

Posted by: ShainS -- The Abolition of The West is from Men Without Chests at March 23, 2023 06:49 PM (TIFe0)

134 On the good news side, the weaponized FIB hasn't sewn our assholes shut.
______________

That's only because of pressure from the gay lobby.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 23, 2023 06:49 PM (VpTlZ)

135 You know who's gonna fix all this?

Ron "Meatball" DeSantis!!!

That's who!!!

Posted by: Kustie The Klown at March 23, 2023 06:49 PM (FpPBC)

136 There is no show, nothing, that can tilt Waco as sympathetic to the government. Koresh was a nut, but they murdered those people period.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at March 23, 2023 06:49 PM (oWBc3)

137 Are you threatening me? I need tp for my bunghole. Bunnnnng hooooooole.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 23, 2023 06:50 PM (dK+81)

138 As part of a background investigation for a security clearance, the FBI interviews your family, friends and neighbors. They often get bullsh*t reports (like these on the parents and schools) from disgruntled people or somebody wants to talk big, like s/he "knows" something.

The old FBI knew how to recognize the BS.

Posted by: JM in Florida, now Illinois at March 23, 2023 06:51 PM (hmuFJ)

139 I've said it before, but the next republican president on his/her first day in office has to dump the FBI database onto the web, after making sure that undercovers and informants are out of harms way. Nuke it from orbit , so to speak, just to make sure

Posted by: Smell the Glove at March 23, 2023 06:51 PM (udCMm)

140 We are fast becoming butt-monkey to the world thanks to the FJB junta. Even third-world countries look down on our government as the assclowns they are.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 23, 2023 06:47 PM (BpYfr)

Yep. I cannot remember which newspaper or even country other than it is close to the USA, and the editor recently said there was not very much reader demand for items from this country. The editor wasn't being a jerk or snide but just relaying an apparent fact. The point being whether it is chicken or egg territory, as the United States becomes more totalitarian and dull it recedes in international interest. Much of D.C.'s Ukraine madness, I think, is a scream of "I won't be ignored!" The same may apply somewhat to the police state thuggery against its own citizens.

It is very unlikely this trend reverses.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at March 23, 2023 06:52 PM (KSNKu)

141 The Waco raid was politically motivated. The BATF was coming up for funding in Congress and they needed a big splashy event to hit all the front pages of every newspaper in the country.
And they got it.

Posted by: gourmand du jour, waxing foolisophical at March 23, 2023 06:52 PM (jTmQV)

142 This is my non-cynical take-
The R's have some back pocket stuff they had ready to go, with maybe a couple of new things they can add now that they are in charge of the House. I suspect they are going to roll these out one at a time for a few weeks then call it a day. And then get back to failure theater by half-assing on the department level budget bills, only to throw up an omnibus extension because of some emergency or whatever, but only increase spending by 4.9% instead of the 8.3% that the Dems scream is necessary or minorities will drop dead in the streets.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at March 23, 2023 06:52 PM (fs1hN)

143 There's nothing Republicans do better than Committees and Hearings.
________________

Sigh. I say again, Congress is the legislative branch, NOT the executive branch. They cannot enforce the law; in the absence of a super majority, holding hearings is pretty much all they can do. Ideally, they could yank the purse strings shut, but that's not so easy to do.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 23, 2023 06:53 PM (VpTlZ)

144 @61
Last July, the estimate was that nine nations (the above, plus Poland, the Croats, and the Slovaks) would all hit the two percent requirement. What changed? Also, Romania was estimated to just miss it at 1.99 percent.

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Looked into this a bit more. Poland is one of the seven. Apparently the Croats and Slovaks were on track to reach the target two percent. But GDP increased more than anticipated, so they came in just under, instead

Posted by: junior at March 23, 2023 06:53 PM (TtMYo)

145 The president of freaking Mexico ridiculed the police state nature of the USA yesterday.

Mexico.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at March 23, 2023 06:42 PM (KSNKu)

Oof. But let's face it, there is a SHITLOAD of blame to go around, including "law and order Republicans" and their near-reverence toward LEOs of all kinds. They got their noses under a lot of tents under the guise of "conservative" priorities (war on drugs, national security, etc). Fuckin hell, in my younger and dumber days I was just as guilty of the badge-polishing rah rah bullshit as anyone. I eventually matured and wised up.

Posted by: Our police state didn't happen overnight at March 23, 2023 06:53 PM (B0ahs)

146 Meanwhile oil and gas futures are down, hard. Recession. Is. Here/Coming.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at March 23, 2023 06:54 PM (oWBc3)

147 136 There is no show, nothing, that can tilt Waco as sympathetic to the government. Koresh was a nut, but they murdered those people period.
Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at March 23, 2023 06:49 PM (oWBc3)

The police state thuggery ratcheted up after that appalling massacre went unanswered. There were earlier incidents but that marked this nation's rapid descent in East Germany lite (maybe not so lite any more).

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at March 23, 2023 06:55 PM (KSNKu)

148 Sigh. I say again, Congress is the legislative branch, NOT the executive branch. They cannot enforce the law; in the absence of a super majority, holding hearings is pretty much all they can do. Ideally, they could yank the purse strings shut, but that's not so easy to do.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 23, 2023 06:53 PM (VpTlZ)
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I'm still not convinced that yanking the purse strings shut will actually do anything. Government will continue to print whatever money it needs.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 23, 2023 06:55 PM (BpYfr)

149 We not think Ameri8ca assclowns. Now send us billions more and jets too.

Posted by: Z-dog at March 23, 2023 06:55 PM (v0R5T)

150 What changed? Also, Romania was estimated to just miss it at 1.99 percent.
Posted by: junior

Wait, Romania? Romania is NATO?

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at March 23, 2023 06:55 PM (Js3tc)

151 137 Are you threatening me? I need tp for my bunghole. Bunnnnng hooooooole.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 23, 2023 06:50 PM (dK+81)

*gives Cornholio another cappuccino*

Posted by: Drink up at March 23, 2023 06:55 PM (B0ahs)

152 Pedophiles call me a terrorist is what i say.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at March 23, 2023 06:56 PM (/VhO1)

153 2Sigh. I say again, Congress is the legislative branch, NOT the executive branch. They cannot enforce the law; in the absence of a super majority, holding hearings is pretty much all they can do. Ideally, they could yank the purse strings shut, but that's not so easy to do.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 23, 2023 06:53 PM (VpTlZ)

Errrr... when "we" had the executive branch and "we" had Congress, Congress fought us every step of the way. Remember?

Posted by: ... at March 23, 2023 06:56 PM (BXxcV)

154 Posted by: Our police state didn't happen overnight at March 23, 2023 06:53 PM (B0ahs)

No argument.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at March 23, 2023 06:57 PM (KSNKu)

155 And everyone is protected from the bosses on down to the lieutenants and down to the lowest thugs, fixers, & snitches ... not to mention the generous pensions.


I mean the Mafia would be like that too with unlimited easy money

Posted by: BlackOrchid at March 23, 2023 06:57 PM (w0NJk)

156 Now that I've comfortable in the Leftist Authoritarian state (achieved through electoral theft) I wish they'd just drop all the pretexts and start wearing snazzy military uniforms with medals and maybe a colorful sash.

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at March 23, 2023 06:58 PM (Js3tc)

157 I mean the Mafia would be like that too with unlimited easy money

The government IS the mafia, they studied and took to heart every thing from the mob and just instituted it to government. They're literally running organized crime with multiple crime families. But there's no FBI or Giuliani to come save us from these guys.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2023 06:59 PM (0hOvj)

158 I'm still not convinced that yanking the purse strings shut will actually do anything. Government will continue to print whatever money it needs.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 23, 2023 06:55 PM (BpYfr)

Agreed. Things are utterly lawless now so "Biden" would just deem there is a stash to continue funding. Congress and the presidency are simply political actors and actresses now, to refer back to something rich earlier this week. The MIC/national security state runs the show.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at March 23, 2023 06:59 PM (KSNKu)

159 Remember when Congress promised us they would do a lot more than just Hearings if they could only darn it secure the executive branch and both houses?

And then what did they do?

Broke every possible promise. Thumbs downed all the bills. Stood in the president's way while he was willing to take ALL of the heat. Gave themselves a raise. And spent like drunken shits.

Posted by: ... at March 23, 2023 07:00 PM (BXxcV)

160 Yes, sash is good. We need uniforms so we can distinguish between government and the mafia.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at March 23, 2023 07:01 PM (/VhO1)

161 *zzzzzzip*
*thwip*
Behold my purse string. Get yanking.

Posted by: Hey Congress, hold THIS at March 23, 2023 07:01 PM (B0ahs)

162 @150 Wait, Romania? Romania is NATO?

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Joined along with the rest of the former Pact nations a while back.

Posted by: junior at March 23, 2023 07:01 PM (TtMYo)

163 Elected Republicans spoke out more and harder against Trump 2017-2019 than they have Biden 2021-2023.

True or False

Posted by: ... at March 23, 2023 07:04 PM (BXxcV)

164
The president of freaking Mexico ridiculed the police state nature of the USA yesterday.
Mexico.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat

Bad part is....he wasn't wrong.
Posted by: Mister Scott

We just do it a little differently. Until later, that is.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 23, 2023 07:04 PM (63Dwl)

165 Broke every possible promise. Thumbs downed all the bills. Stood in the president's way while he was willing to take ALL of the heat. Gave themselves a raise. And spent like drunken shits.
Posted by: ... at March 23, 2023 07:00 PM (BXxcV)

They did as paid and told by their bosses. It is only a question now of how long things have been this way. It's a good bet a long time.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at March 23, 2023 07:05 PM (KSNKu)

166 Elected Republicans spoke out more and harder against Trump 2017-2019 than they have Biden 2021-2023.

True or False

Posted by: ... at March 23, 2023 07:04 PM (BXxcV)

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To ask is to have answered.

Posted by: ShainS -- The Abolition of The West is from Men Without Chests at March 23, 2023 07:07 PM (xdaMD)

167 Ooh! An interim report!

This means people will be held accountable, right?

Right?

Posted by: blaster at March 23, 2023 07:08 PM (pwExq)

168 When Mexico is laughing at you you know it's fked up

Posted by: Skip at March 23, 2023 07:09 PM (xhxe8)

169 "Congress is the legislative branch, NOT the executive branch. They cannot enforce the law; in the absence of a super majority, holding hearings is pretty much all they can do."

I'm unclear on this, but is it only with a supermajority that they can actually compel testimony, and at least execute "the constitution" ... as in arrest those that break the law, at least those of which they have authority to "control"? (like the other branches?)

I was thinking they do have some power which they fail to exercise, but I am not a lawyer, or even well trained in law)

Posted by: illiniwek at March 23, 2023 07:10 PM (Cus5s)

170 The fascism the left was always warning us about is here, birthed by them.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at March 23, 2023 06:44 PM (/LGx4)
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Fascism is the pragmatic, lasting form of leftism.

Posted by: Axeman at March 23, 2023 07:10 PM (OaZlZ)

171 've said it before, but the next republican president on his/her first day in office has to dump the FBI database onto the web, after making sure that undercovers and informants are out of harms way. Nuke it from orbit , so to speak, just to make sure

Nope, give up the undercovers and informants too. They are just as treacherous and traitorous.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at March 23, 2023 07:10 PM (YXHzG)

172 113 I thought it was pretty even handed. It showed how gung-ho and stupid the ATF and FBI were, how poorly they communicated, how they clearly mismanaged the situation into an atrocity.

OTOH, it also showed what a whacko that BD lady was, and it hammered home the fact that Koresh was a serial child rapist.

Posted by: Lithiated gp For Refreshment at March 23, 2023 07:11 PM (MvF+J)

173 I'd love to see the FBI show up at my door and expect I'm going to let them in to "interview" me.

LOLGF

Posted by: deadrody at March 23, 2023 07:11 PM (kYmXc)

174 Repeal the damn Patriot Act
Getting tired of this bullshit.

Posted by: Big Star at March 23, 2023 07:12 PM (Modkf)

175 Hey, so were the "nothing will happen" people right yet?

Posted by: ... at March 23, 2023 07:12 PM (BXxcV)

176 Nope, give up the undercovers and informants too. They are just as treacherous and traitorous.
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Yup, abso-fucking-lutely. Protecting them assumes they're legitimate and the FBI has mostly proven that is NEVER the truth.

FUCK EM

Posted by: deadrody at March 23, 2023 07:12 PM (kYmXc)

177 This is a good meaty post.
Just the think I need to put under the leg of that wobbly basement table.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at March 23, 2023 07:13 PM (V3xgB)

178 Just end all undercover operations and resign them from that work. Flat out stop it.

Then release everything

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2023 07:13 PM (0hOvj)

179 but the next republican president on his/her first day in office has to dump the FBI database onto the web

I don't mean to be argumentative, but do you actually think that after stealing a landslide election scott free there will ever be a Republican executive again?

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at March 23, 2023 07:13 PM (Js3tc)

180 175 Hey, so were the "nothing will happen" people right yet?
Posted by: ... at March 23, 2023 07:12 PM (BXxcV)
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So are you proposing that getting yourself an FBI threat file is "nothing" ?

Posted by: deadrody at March 23, 2023 07:13 PM (kYmXc)

181 Hey, so were the "nothing will happen" people right yet?

so far...

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2023 07:15 PM (0hOvj)

182 113 Another good thing about the Waco doc series: there's a reporter in there who looks, acts, and talks just like Randy Quaid. He's like a deep-fake hologram of RQ.

Posted by: Lithiated gp For Refreshment at March 23, 2023 07:15 PM (MvF+J)

183 but they contacted the FBI after learning the Justice Department had a website "to submit tips to the FBI in regards to any concerning behavior directed toward school boards."

After the Wall came down and the Stasi opened their files, it was made apparent that the Stasi in East Germany didn't really do a lot of arm twisting and blackmail to get their informers to inform. A lot of the informers were bored, looking for affirmation or looking to get even. They didn't even get paid well.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 23, 2023 07:16 PM (xhaym)

184 OTOH, it also showed what a whacko that BD lady was, and it hammered home the fact that Koresh was a serial child rapist.
Posted by: Lithiated gp For Refreshment at March 23, 2023 07:11 PM (MvF+J)
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So, these days the FBI would be protecting him instead of arresting him?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 23, 2023 07:16 PM (BpYfr)

185 Repeal the damn Patriot Act.

I got tired of it when I was getting into arguments in real life, and online, with anyone I could about it.

Doesn't make me some kind of anything. But it does make me pissed. If nothing else, I'd like the same folks that supported such shit to simply admit they were wrong. Every damn day.

Same with Ruby Ridge and Waco. Because plenty of the same folks excused that shit.

Posted by: Some Things Will Never Change at March 23, 2023 07:19 PM (O5mtR)

186 that is a concise "meme". But we need one better than that. These are not two systems of "justice". It is one system of persecuting political enemies (for non-crimes, where evidence is fabricated) --

So we now agree with Malcom X who was contemporizing the Bible:
"The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make innocent guilty and the guilty innocent, and that's power because they control the minds of the masses"

Proverbs 17:15 "He who justifies the wicked and he who condemns the righteous are both alike an abomination to the LORD"

Posted by: Reuben Hick at March 23, 2023 07:19 PM (YXHzG)

187 Let's be honest, the whole world is laughing at us.

I browse 9gag, which has a lot of foreign english speakers. (I would say 1/3 to 1/2) and mostly young. It is a meme site, so lots of stupid kid stuff but also world "street" news.
They used to all want to go to USA. Now they laugh at it - the filth in the cities, the senile pedophile who stole the election, the constant gay stuff,....

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at March 23, 2023 07:19 PM (V3xgB)

188 Eff Bee Eye ever comes here if they are not real early they will miss me and wait until I get home or come find me.

Posted by: Skip at March 23, 2023 07:19 PM (xhxe8)

189 184 is that the blonde lady? J was watching this so I was half listening. She was still a nut, and still in love with Koresh. Clearly. It was kooky.

Posted by: Piper at March 23, 2023 07:19 PM (ZdaMQ)

190 Good thing we started counting Trump popular votes. Because it will take that long to accomplish.

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at March 23, 2023 07:19 PM (glGDV)

191 Repeal the damn Patriot Act.

And RICO, which its based on. Bob is not guilty of what Fred does, just because he's the boss.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2023 07:20 PM (0hOvj)

192 Nood cafe

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at March 23, 2023 07:20 PM (Js3tc)

193 When Mexico is laughing at you you know it's fked up
Posted by: Skip at March 23, 2023 07:09 PM (xhxe

To put this in persepective AMLO also believes in Mayan forest elves.

I will cede evil things that live in cenotes, but I draw the line at Mayan forest elves.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 23, 2023 07:21 PM (xhaym)

194 "...Koresh was a serial child rapist."

Oh, well, once you put it that way, of course about 90 people had to die. Naturally. But I guess we'll never know the truth since they are now all dead.

Posted by: gourmand du jour, waxing foolisophical at March 23, 2023 07:21 PM (jTmQV)

195 I don't mean to be argumentative, but do you actually think that after stealing a landslide election scott free there will ever be a Republican executive again?

Its not much different mental masturbation as buying a lottery ticket and imagining spending all the money.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at March 23, 2023 07:21 PM (YXHzG)

196 I just read a tweet that said Ray Epp's wife Robin is the National Director of Dominion Voting Systems. Anyone heard that?

Posted by: Notsothoreau at March 23, 2023 07:21 PM (6lj/r)

197 I previously wrote that Jim Jordan was deliberately understaffing his committee -- for what purpose, I don't know.

If Jim Jordan gave two shits - seriously - about the over-reach of any government agency, he wouldn't hold hearings. Not frigging different than Trey Gowdy or Darrell Issa.

They'd insist on a budget process, to defund said agencies. It's all bullshit for clicks.

Posted by: Some Things Will Never Change at March 23, 2023 07:21 PM (O5mtR)

198 Koresh was a serial child rapist.
Posted by: Lithiated


As opposed to what, a mass child incinerator?

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at March 23, 2023 07:21 PM (V3xgB)

199 I got tired of it when I was getting into arguments in real life, and online, with anyone I could about it.

My problem with it has always been the same problem I have with RICO: it holds people guilty or under suspicion for what other people do. That's not just unjust, it is literally unconstitutional.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2023 07:22 PM (0hOvj)

200 My problem with it has always been the same problem I have with RICO: it holds people guilty or under suspicion for what other people do. That's not just unjust, it is literally unconstitutional.

And hence my problem with "Vote GOP". The last time I did ... and they held all the levers of power ?

We got the fucking Patriot Act.

Posted by: Some Things Will Never Change at March 23, 2023 07:23 PM (O5mtR)

201 ..Now if only Hugo Boss was alive, he could design some snappy uniforms for the various US government police agencies. Posted by: Colin at March 23, 2023 06:31 PM (8p0Zk)


No need. Just copy what the New Jersy State Troopers have been wearing for decades, now. They lack only the death's heads and lightning bolts for the full effect.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at March 23, 2023 07:23 PM (e6UQI)

202 After the Wall came down and the Stasi opened their files, it was made apparent that the Stasi in East Germany didn't really do a lot of arm twisting and blackmail to get their informers to inform. A lot of the informers were bored, looking for affirmation or looking to get even. They didn't even get paid well.
Posted by: Kindltot at March 23, 2023 07:16 PM (xhaym)

Look back at how many New Jersey housewives dropped a dime on neighbors they thought had too many guests under their roof at one time only two or so years back. It HAS happened here. And it is never going away unless and until something godawful happens. I doubt it crawls on like the USSR for 70 years but this may be remembered as a golden age in five or ten years. Everything is rapidly growing worse and more oppressive.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at March 23, 2023 07:27 PM (KSNKu)

203 A lot of what government has done that is abusive in the last few years isn't legal through the Patriot Act either.

None of that FISA sit was. The rampant unmasking of Trump org members. None of it followed the actual rules and safeguards set up with the system.

But it's clear, you can't leave exceptional powers sleeping in reach of a progressive. They are good with their imaginations. They are frustrated by opposition or resistance. They will invent some "kinda like" reason to wake the Dragon.

How a number of them would lib's to reconvene Nuhrenburg trials for something "kinda like" Nazism and Holocaust-ish!

Posted by: Axeman at March 23, 2023 07:28 PM (OaZlZ)

204 Shit. I guess we're all going to look at funny Tick-Tocks of animals now.

The conversation was just getting good.

Posted by: Some Things Will Never Change at March 23, 2023 07:29 PM (O5mtR)

205 They'd insist on a budget process, to defund said agencies. It's all bullshit for clicks.
Posted by: Some Things Will Never Change at March 23, 2023 07:21 PM (O5mtR)

All they have to do is full the rubes until even that is no longer necessary. Unless that day is here now (pro tip: it is), it isn't very far off.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at March 23, 2023 07:29 PM (KSNKu)

206 Come upstairs.

Posted by: Dark Helmet at March 23, 2023 07:30 PM (Oka5v)

207 But it's clear, you can't leave exceptional powers sleeping in reach of a progressive.

OK - I'll put that in check. You can't leave exceptional powers within eyesight of conservatives either.

Because they'll fly flags and write songs about "back the blue" and "freedom isn't free". You can't have power laying around any of these philosophies.

Posted by: Some Things Will Never Change at March 23, 2023 07:31 PM (O5mtR)

208 Posted by: Axeman at March 23, 2023 07:28 PM (OaZlZ)

It was grimly hilarious that the FISA court judges didn't even read the warrant affidavits. With this new crop of Biden judges, they probably will be unable to read the warrant affidavits.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at March 23, 2023 07:32 PM (KSNKu)

209 Clearly, Jordan is trying to whitewash the reputation of the FBI.

Also, it's just as clear that these so-called whistleblowers are scumbags like the scumbags they work with. Steve Friend only left the FBI after he was FIRED. He didn't quit over his conscience. All the other "anonymous" whistleblowers aren't quitting.

They want that sweet government gibzmedat - their paycheck - and they REALLY want the sweetest of government gibzmedats....their pensions. They'll sit back and quietly just follow orders to hold on to those gibzmedats while you get put in federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison without a trial. Must be really tough to be them.

Assuming you won't be shooting them through the door, at the very least, do not voluntarily tell them anything. Force them to get a warrant. Force them to subpoena you. The only thing I'd say to an FBI agent is "lawyer", or maybe "eat shit".

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at March 23, 2023 07:35 PM (lZlXk)

210 194, 198 Who set the fires? The doc series supplies evidence that fires broke out in three separate locations of the compound simultaneously. They present audio from some of the bugs in the compound supporting the claim that the BDs set the fires themselves. What evidence have you got?

I mentioned the child rape because this doc is the first convincing evidence I've seen that that accusation is likely true. I used to think it was Fed BS, but here we have an interview with one of the victims.

No, a mass-casualty atrocity is not justified by the hunt for a child rapist. I called it an atrocity for a reason. I don't know why you would infer otherwise, since you are both much smarter than that.

Posted by: Lithiated gp For Refreshment at March 23, 2023 07:36 PM (MvF+J)

211 Who set the fires?

Posted by: Lithiated gp For Refreshment at March 23, 2023 07:36 PM (MvF+J)
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Doesn't matter. It's my home and I'll start a fire if I feel like it. It's the GAS the FBI flooded into the compound that became combustible at that concentration.

Then, it was David Chipman who took selfies while standing upon the still smoldering ruin of 80+ men, women, and children.

You are playing a very stupid game, like when "libertarians who are educated by socialist professors" explain how the South really did have the right to keep and breed slaves. They didn't.

Your continued argument on this slope sure feels like you're siding with the monsters in this story. Those monsters are mostly on the side of the government. Koresh might have been a monster. Some of the parents might have been monstrous in their willful naivete, and none of it justifies was the government did under any circumstances.

Those who try to justify it become monsters. Just like private companies who do the bidding of government become an arm of the government - ie legitimate targets.

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at March 23, 2023 07:45 PM (YdKSU)

212 Koresh could have easily been arrested on his daily morning run, by the sheriff and maybe a deputy.
But, no. Dynamic entry. 75 BATF agents in full battle rattle. Because we need those headlines, gentlemen. Never mind our cover is blown and the mailman tipped off the Koresh compound.

Posted by: gourmand du jour, waxing foolisophical at March 23, 2023 07:56 PM (jTmQV)

213 Hey polynikes, Congressional committees obviously don't have any powers to bring chrages or make arrests, WHICH IS ENTIRELY MY POINT. It's all a bunch of theater! That's why the Republicans suck. They think their voters are a bunch of rubes and don't recognize that they can do nothing. But by God, they sure will talk tough and raise their voices. Yes they will! SCARY, huh?

It's similar to full-of-shit Kevin McCarthy stating that "we're getting rid of those 87,000 new IRS agents," when we all know he will do no such thing.

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