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Victoria Alonso -- Marvel's 2nd In Command, and Woke Lesbian Hispanic Who Demanded Bob Chapek Oppose Ron DeSantis' Parental Rights in Education Bill -- Out at Marvel After String of Flops Leaves the Division in Disarray

I mention her race and sexuality because it was believed these were armor that made her unfireable, no matter how poor her performance.

But when you start losing hundreds of millions of dollars -- or underpeforming by a couple of billion -- suddenly that armor starts looking thinner than it did before.

Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania was Marvel's latest flop. Based on its opening of $120 million and using the 2.5x box office formula to predict its final global take, I said it would struggle to hit $500 million globally, even though I didn't really believe that.

But that's what's happened.

And note that, despite being a flop -- Ant-Man 3 still outgrossed Black Widow, Shang-Chi, and The Eternals.


We'll start with the cold, hard facts. After four weeks in play, Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania has grossed $447.4 million worldwide, with $198.1 million coming from the US and $249.3 million coming from international markets.

Despite a US debut of $106.1 million, which set a new record for the franchise, Quantumania has yet to overtake the final hauls of Ant-Man ($518.9 million) and Ant-Man and the Wasp ($623.1 million). Neither of those movies was a big Marvel draw, which makes the threequel's current haul even more disappointing.

In terms of the overall MCU, Quantumania has surpassed the final box office totals of Black Widow, Shang-Chi and Eternals. However, each of those movies was released in 2021, when cinemas were still getting back to full business, and Black Widow even had a simultaneous digital release.

...

Sometimes, future releases can save a movie at the box office, but Quantumania is out in every major market. This past weekend, it added $7.1 million in the US and nearly $10 million internationally, so even Ant-Man's $518.9 million could be a challenge to surpass.

Even with Biden-Inflated Dollars, Ant-Man 3 will not match the box office of the first Ant-Man.

Marvel's latest disaster demanded a corporate response. And they acted to appease angry shareholders.

Victoria Alonso "exited" Marvel on Friday. News of her "departure" broke late yesterday afternoon.

They do not say she was fired. But she was either fired, or she was told her #Woke agenda was no longer affordable after the latest bomb from Marvel, and left in a huff.

Marvel offers no details for why she has "departed" four weeks into the run of a $250+ million bomb. They don't even offer a cover story.

She has no new job lined up.

I think she was canned.

Victoria Alonso is very fond of injecting woke messages into every Marvel project. She mused publicly that the name of the "X-Men" was sexist, and it might be time to rename them something like "The Mutants" or "The X-People."

She announced at a premiere that one of Marvel's oldest character, Namor the Sub-Mariner, was now Hispanic, after being Not-Hispanic for 80 years, and that his name was no longer pronounced Nay-more, but was now Nahmorrh, with a Spanish flair, and that name meant "the boy without love" (sin amor, I think she's trying to say).

Even in the new woke Marvel, Nahmorrh, the boy without love, isn't actually Hispanic. He's Mayan or Aztec or something. The Spanish language would be the language of the conquerors of his people, not his own language.

But Victoria Alonso wanted to win one for the Hispanics so he's Nahhmorrrh.

Although Kevin Fiege cosigned all of the woke agenda choices she's made since being elevated to the number 2 at Marvel, she was certainly the loudest, shrillest voice for "diversity" in the Marvel office.

Look at her most recent Woke Bombs:

Deadline has confirmed that the esteemed Marvel executive and EP of several movies, Victoria Alonso, has exited Marvel Studios after a 17-year run. No reasons were given for her departure, which was effective Friday, and it's not yet clear where she's heading. Her exit is quite a shocker given her amiable demeanor and passion for all things Marvel.

Amiable? Seems like a c*** to me.

Update:

DiscussingFilm @DiscussingFilm
17h

Victoria Alonso was reportedly singularly responsible for the toxic work environment within Marvel's VFX departments.

She would reportedly give work to teams she liked but "if you have pissed her off in any way, you're going to get frozen out."

She was in fact in charge of Marvel's VFX, and you know how GREAT their VFX has been lately!

Thanks to artisinal ette. Someone on a Midnight's Edge stream said that she was a "yeller," while Kevin Feige was the passive aggressive type.

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Alonso has also served as an exec producer on Marvel movies and Disney+ series including most recently Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania, Black Panther: Wakanda Forever, Thor: Love ad Thunder and Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness, in addition to series such as Loki, Ms. Marvel, and The Guardians of the Galaxy Holiday Special, to name a few.

She was a leftwing identity politics propagandist first, and it showed in her work:


A consistently outspoken champion of diversity in entertainment, Alonso said during a 2021 Women In Animation panel at the Annecy Animation Film Festival that inclusion, diversity and gender parity "all go hand-in-hand with showing the world as it is."

The veteran executive and producer added that you can look at diversity "from the social point of view, the cultural point of view. But truthfully, this is a business. From a fiscal point of view, you are leaving money on the table by not representing.I think 51% of our audience is female, 28% of our audience is Hispanic. If we don't represent the people that watch what we make, eventually they'll go elsewhere because somebody else will figure it out."

They're always claiming that half or more of women are super fans of comic books.

Literally no one believes this.

I used to see Marvel movies in theaters. I saw the audiences. They were 60-70% male. Women who came would come with their boyfriends and husbands. While there would be a groups of boys and men who went together, with no women, to see the movies, there were no groups of girls or women going together to see Ant-Man.

These figures they cite are lies, and they know they're lies -- but they claim them to be true to justify their forcing of "diversity."


Another instance of Alonso's outspokenness on issues of diversity and inclusion came last year, when the openly gay exec called on then-Disney CEO Bob Chapek to "take a stand" against anti-LGBTQ+ legislation such as Florida's 'Don't Say Gay' bill, revealing in an appearance at the GLAAD Media Awards that she'd already had a "45-minute sit-down" with the exec to ask for "courage" on his part.


Alonso added then that members of the LGBTQ+ community "deserve the right to live, love, and have. More importantly, we deserve an origin story...As long as I am at Marvel Studios I will fight for representation for all of us."

But you're not at Marvel Studios any more, Hag Without Love. What will you do now?


Is Woke Marvel entirely her fault? No, it's also Kevin Fiege's fault. But they had to can someone, and they decided to get rid of the diversity hire who really didn't bring much to the table besides her race, gender, and sexuality.

It's also CEO Bob Iger's fault -- when former CEO Bob Chapek said he would not be getting into a political fight with Ron DeSantis over the "Don't Say Gay" bill, Bob Iger, then a member of Disney's board of directors, publicly called Chapek out and demanded that he fight DeSantis for the right to teachers to sexualize K-3 children.

A lot of people are just straight-up boycotting Disney no matter what the alleged merits of their films. They all suck now, but even if they were good, people would boycott them for using their corporate power to bully citizen voters out of polices they want their politicians to implement.

And that is almost entirely Iger's fault.

But Iger's not going to fire himself, obviously. He moved heaven and earth just to get back to running Disney (into the ground).

I still expect Marvel to be pretty much done within three years.

But this is a nice little gift.

Midnight's Edge discusses the firing below, and the "shock" that is reverberating through Hollywood that a woke Tripe-Threat Diversity Hire could actually be fired for poor performance. Putting the other Woke Failures on notice.

The whole thing is worth the watch. If you just want a taste, there's video of Alonso's woke sermons starting at 2:40.

Below, "Diktor Von Doomcock" reports on a claimed report from a screening of The Marvels. He cannot verify this person's identity, and he can't confirm that this is an accurate report.

It sounds plausible, though.

And it sounds like The Marvels will be a true catastrophe.

He talks about the shock of Victoria Alonso's firing possibly heralding "big changes" at Disney. I doubt the changes will be that big, but who knows. He speculates that if the Unfireable Victoria Alonso got fired, then so too might the Unfireable Kathleen Kennedy, responsible for the destruction of the Star Wars franchise.

But then, it seems like Kathleen Kennedy has already been pre-fired. In the below video, Kamran Pasha reveals a leak from a source that at this year's Disney convention, Kennedy will be given a "Viking funeral," celebrating her for all her huge successes. Huge successes she had acting as a coffee-fetcher for Spielberg and Lucas; on her own, she's racked up failure after failure. But Disney will pretend otherwise.

Now, the claim is that this "Viking funeral" was worked out a while ago. Disney would give her a huge ovation, with the understanding that she then announce her intention to leave Disney in a few months.

While she agreed to this last year, the claim goes further, as the day of her Viking Funeral approaches -- I think it will be in May of this year -- she has attempted to weasel out of the deal and argue that she should be kept in charge of LucasFilm, to do further damage.

But the report is that Disney -- Chapek, then Iger -- have said a firm "no" to Kennedy's attempts to cling to power and they want her out after the Disney convention.

Posted by: Ace at 12:00 PM




Comments

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1 Wawawaaaa

Posted by: Skip at March 21, 2023 12:01 PM (KPgsx)

2 Not second.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at March 21, 2023 12:02 PM (N1tpc)

3 What a shame..

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 21, 2023 12:02 PM (yQpMk)

4 The pendulum is swinging at Marvel.

Posted by: Capitol Police at March 21, 2023 12:03 PM (ncXxy)

5 Stick up on popcorn 🍿

Posted by: Skip at March 21, 2023 12:03 PM (KPgsx)

6 I used to love watching super hero movies for the sheer entertainment of it all. Now, forget it. Can't abide with all their stupid woke nonsense.

Posted by: IC - #FJB #MitchTheBitch at March 21, 2023 12:03 PM (mnUzy)

7 The big money is in pron.

Posted by: Pudinhead at March 21, 2023 12:04 PM (4eKPg)

8 I've been assured that Marvel is in great shape by Paul.

Did Paul lie to me?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 21, 2023 12:04 PM (LvTSG)

9 If only the right people had been in charge.

Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 21, 2023 12:04 PM (dGQu9)

10 Turns out that the audience finally decoded her secret message...

'M-She-U means the dude always gets emasculated in his eponymous films" as seen in every Ant-Man flick and countless others.

Ma'am if I want to see chicks in super costumes fight I can go to pornhub.

Posted by: sven at March 21, 2023 12:04 PM (Lzpvj)

11 Will destroy franchises for food!

Posted by: Victoria Alonso at March 21, 2023 12:04 PM (yQpMk)

12 Looking forward to the all Female Avengers because they killed off all the Male Leads or femized them

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at March 21, 2023 12:04 PM (dKiJG)

13 Kennedy will be given a "Viking funeral,"
__

Wrapped up in linens at the bottom of the skiff, set adrift in the harbor then fired upon with flaming arrows? I'd watch.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at March 21, 2023 12:04 PM (fs1hN)

14 A quick Goolag photo search and I can understand why she's a lesbo.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 21, 2023 12:04 PM (DMyTF)

15 #1 That is my sad trombone

Posted by: Skip at March 21, 2023 12:04 PM (KPgsx)

16 Late again. Sigh...

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 21, 2023 12:04 PM (Y+l9t)

17 Even with Biden-Inflated Dollars, Ant-Man 3 will not match the box office of the first Ant-Man.
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I think this is a reason - the somewhat lackluster Thor sub-franchise being another - that Iger came out with his cagey, "I don't know that every character needs 2-3 sequel movies" position for Marvel.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 21, 2023 12:05 PM (t0OGg)

18 Ms Alonzo looks more white than me.

Posted by: sven at March 21, 2023 12:05 PM (Lzpvj)

19 Are the true Star Wars fans allowed to roast marshmallows at Kathleen's Viking funeral?

Posted by: pookysgirl, married to a true SW fan at March 21, 2023 12:05 PM (dtlDP)

20 Remember kids she wondered why they were called the "X-Men" when they had chick members...

Posted by: sven at March 21, 2023 12:05 PM (Lzpvj)

21 soooo... she's the marvel version of kathleen kennedy?

#HAHAHAHA

Posted by: SturmToddler at March 21, 2023 12:05 PM (nXhwP)

22 How many executive lesbians are actually lesbians as opposed to lesbians for business or political purposes?

Posted by: N. Lurker at March 21, 2023 12:06 PM (eGTCV)

23 I still expect Marvel to be pretty much done within three years.

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Feige keeps talking about how the next Avengers movie will be all new heroes.

None of the new heroes are selling.

It's almost like Feige had no idea what to do with Marvel after Endgame.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 21, 2023 12:06 PM (LvTSG)

24 I saw String of Flops open for Flock of Seagulls at the Arboretum in '02.

The whole damn show was for the birds.

Posted by: Muldoon at March 21, 2023 12:06 PM (ykeLU)

25 "Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania was Marvel's latest flop."

With killer IP like Ant-Man, how could it flop? SFX must have been sub-par. Today's audiences are philistines.

Posted by: Knock gp A Kiss at March 21, 2023 12:06 PM (MvF+J)

26 17 Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 21, 2023 12:05 PM (t0OGg)

The hope which could probably have been fulfilled was that the same dynamic that drove the comics themselves would be the industry norm and there would be bi-annual "issues."

Then the woketard 6000 hit and they needed to FIX every fucking storyline every fanboi wanted to see and here we sit.

Posted by: sven at March 21, 2023 12:06 PM (Lzpvj)

27 Fernando Alonso > Victoria Alonso.

And I can't stand Fernando, except when he's making Lulu cry.

Posted by: spindrift at March 21, 2023 12:06 PM (h5TKJ)

28 #1 That is my sad trombone
Posted by: Skip

Oh. I thought you preferred them over 7-11.

Posted by: JT at March 21, 2023 12:07 PM (T4tVD)

29 So some big corps are finally getting the real message, i.e., Go Woke = Go Broke. Aka Sam Goldwyn's dictum, "If you want to send a message, call Western Union!"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 21, 2023 12:07 PM (J2vNu)

30 Why, it's almost as if everything touched by woke turns to shit.

Magical, it is.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 21, 2023 12:07 PM (Q4IgG)

31 Victoria Alonso is very fond of injecting woke messages into every Marvel project. She mused publicly that the name of the "X-Men" was sexist, and it might be time to rename them something like "The Mutants" or "The X-People."
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If I had to guess, this is why she was shit-canned. For all that Marvel likes to talk about its thousands of characters and limitless story options, it isn't true. There are thousands of characters nobody cares about. The MCU got started in second-tier characters, because that's what Marvel still owned. The first-tier properties had been licensed out and Marvel itself couldn't use them. So Iron Man and Captain America it was. They made it work.

All that Marvel has left that people care about are the X-Men and Fantastic Four. Letting a woke idiots deliberately destroy one of two remaining valuable properties would be suicidal. They'll wreck it anyway, but they don't want to wreck it on purpose this time.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 21, 2023 12:07 PM (t0OGg)

32 Comics are ghey.

Posted by: Oschisms at March 21, 2023 12:08 PM (0A5+1)

33 He talks about the shock of Victoria Alonso's firing possibly heralding "big changes" at Disney. I doubt the changes will be that big, but who knows. He speculates that if the Unfireable Victoria Alonso got fired, then so too might the Unfireable Kathleen Kennedy, responsible for the destruction of the Star Wars franchise.

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There was also drama very recently (in the last few days) about a script for a new Star Wars movie being submitted and the two writers leaving the project completely within a couple of days.

The project is supposedly still a go, but they said that about the Patty Jenkins movie as well before they finally admitted, months later, that they weren't going forward with it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 21, 2023 12:08 PM (LvTSG)

34 "If you want to send a message, call Western Union!"
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Sam was smart. And rich, too. Keep It Simple Stupid.

Posted by: Pudinhead at March 21, 2023 12:08 PM (4eKPg)

35 30 Why, it's almost as if everything touched by woke turns to shit.

Magical, it is.
___

'Tis a mystery.

Posted by: President S**t Midas O'Baraky at March 21, 2023 12:08 PM (fs1hN)

36 It's almost like Feige had no idea what to do with Marvel after Endgame.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 21, 2023 12:06 PM (LvTSG)



They have hundreds of little known characters they can flop with.

Posted by: Victoria Alonso at March 21, 2023 12:08 PM (yQpMk)

37 Saw Ant-Man and the Wasp open for The Murder Hornets
at the Tacoma Dome in 2020.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 21, 2023 12:08 PM (DMyTF)

38 20 Remember kids she wondered why they were called the "X-Men" when they had chick members...
Posted by: sven at March 21, 2023 12:05 PM (Lzpvj)

HAHAHA, Yes she wanted to change the Name and drop it MEN.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at March 21, 2023 12:08 PM (dKiJG)

39 Also that harpy looks more honky than anything else.

Posted by: Oschisms at March 21, 2023 12:08 PM (0A5+1)

40 80s and 90s action movies: Ordinary men fight back against injustice.
Current action movies: you gotta have a superpower to fight back.

Neat message they're indoctrinating, eh?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at March 21, 2023 12:08 PM (Xt3H6)

41 25 "Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania was Marvel's latest flop."

With killer IP like Ant-Man, how could it flop? SFX must have been sub-par. Today's audiences are philistines.
Posted by: Knock gp A Kiss at March 21, 2023 12:06 PM (MvF+J)

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Paul Rudd is a box office juggernaut. If the movie failed, it must be the innate anti-black racism of America.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 21, 2023 12:09 PM (LvTSG)

42 Stick up on popcorn 🍿
Posted by: Skip at March 21, 2023


***
Yeah, I need to buy some.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 21, 2023 12:09 PM (J2vNu)

43 Phase XIc, Subdivision L, Lot 21 will fix all this.

Posted by: Feige in the Marvel Fuhrerbunker at March 21, 2023 12:09 PM (h5TKJ)

44 For myself, the interest in this post is relative to the “politics is downstream of culture” truth… a very significant matter.

Posted by: tubal at March 21, 2023 12:09 PM (PCK5/)

45 I'm not a Marvel fan with the exception of the original Ant Man and Guardians of the Galaxy

Posted by: It's me donna at March 21, 2023 12:09 PM (bs+z0)

46 36 It's almost like Feige had no idea what to do with Marvel after Endgame.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 21, 2023 12:06 PM (LvTSG)


They have hundreds of little known characters they can flop with.
Posted by: Victoria Alonso at March 21, 2023 12:08 PM (yQpMk)

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They could put a bunch of them on Disney+ all at once, watering down the brand with sub-par junk, and then turn a 180 on the strategy and expect pre-Endgame box office receipts once again.

It can't fail!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 21, 2023 12:10 PM (LvTSG)

47 I, for one, would enjoy a origin film on Mister Mxyzptlk.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 21, 2023 12:10 PM (yQpMk)

48 He talks about the shock of Victoria Alonso's firing possibly heralding "big changes" at Disney. I doubt the changes will be that big, but who knows. He speculates that if the Unfireable Victoria Alonso got fired, then so too might the Unfireable Kathleen Kennedy, responsible for the destruction of the Star Wars franchise.
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It doesn't matter. Fire her or not. Lucasfilm is dead. Perhaps the most valuable single entertainment franchise company in history - on the backs of Star Wars and Indiana Jones - is finished.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 21, 2023 12:11 PM (t0OGg)

49 Janet Yellen has just announced that, while the Fed won't bail out ALL current or former media executives, HispanesbianXs like Victoria Alonso are critical to the structural integrity of Our Precious Democracy ™.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 21, 2023 12:11 PM (GYIa4)

50 Silly woke women trying to make movies. Might as well try to get goldfish to perform calculus.

Posted by: Out of their depth at March 21, 2023 12:11 PM (La8Fd)

51 Woke is a mental disorder. Fuck Marvel.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at March 21, 2023 12:11 PM (pohLc)

52 X-men are Trannies that use to be men

Posted by: Skip at March 21, 2023 12:11 PM (KPgsx)

53 I'm still back yonder in the Steve Canyon and Sgt. Rick era.

Posted by: Eromero at March 21, 2023 12:12 PM (MF3yS)

54 45 Posted by: It's me donna at March 21, 2023 12:09 PM (bs+z0)

It had real potential and was a dream for a generation of kids.

Like the big two comic business the ideology is destroying both media sources. Rippa59 outsold all non leading Marvel titles combined with Isom #1 and he set up through crowdfunding an actual publishing house. His black character is a lot more concerned with being a hero than being black.

Posted by: sven at March 21, 2023 12:12 PM (Lzpvj)

55 "...and The Guardians of the Galaxy Holiday Special, to name a few."


Is that a joke? I honestly don't know because Marvel is now dead to me, so it could be real or it could be a dead-naming the Star Wars Holiday Special.

(Note: I don't care enough to google it.)

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at March 21, 2023 12:12 PM (N1tpc)

56 48

It doesn't matter. Fire her or not. Lucasfilm is dead. Perhaps the most valuable single entertainment franchise company in history - on the backs of Star Wars and Indiana Jones - is finished.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 21, 2023 12:11 PM (t0OGg)

Maybe the point of it all.

Posted by: tubal at March 21, 2023 12:12 PM (PCK5/)

57 Ant-Man powers: burrowing, eating, carrying bits of leaf 10X his weight, takes orders from Queen, has a taste for formic acid, possesses strong mandibles.

Posted by: Knock gp A Kiss at March 21, 2023 12:12 PM (MvF+J)

58 I don't know anything about Marvel. I'm not into comics. Never have been. But it stands to reason that, eventually, even "woke" isn't more important than profit. I'll just sit over here hoping it's the beginning of the end to a whole lot of woke entertainment people and their garbage.

Posted by: Lady in Black at March 21, 2023 12:12 PM (sVtYq)

59 While she agreed to this last year, the claim goes further, as the day of her Viking Funeral approaches -- I think it will be in May of this year -- she has attempted to weasel out of the deal and argue that she should be kept in charge of LucasFilm, to do further damage.
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There's little more damage that she can do. Lucasfilm has been driven into the ground. Leave her in charge of it or put someone else in there and the result will be the same. Maybe - maybe - 5-10 years from now, someone can try again with some of the Lucasfilm IP, starting with a repudiation of the Disney era. But not anytime soon.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 21, 2023 12:12 PM (t0OGg)

60 I'm not a Marvel fan with the exception of the original Ant Man and Guardians of the Galaxy
Posted by: It's me donna at March 21, 2023


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I had big hopes for GotG, that with the snarky raccoon fellow among others, it would feature some funny dialog. Sadly, I can't remember any. Nobody in H'wood knows how to write real comedy or funny/witty dialog any more.

Well, the Man From U.N.C.L.E. movie had some cool dialog. But that was 2015.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 21, 2023 12:13 PM (J2vNu)

61 Feige keeps talking about how the next Avengers movie will be all new heroes.

None of the new heroes are selling.

It's almost like Feige had no idea what to do with Marvel after Endgame.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 21, 2023 12:06 PM (LvTSG)
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Endgame really is where they should have wrapped up the Avengers movies. Then start a rebuild with a new superhero team one at a time, just like they did with the Avengers. Rinse and repeat. It's a winning formula, because they already did it. But no, they just had to continue milking that group into the ground.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 21, 2023 12:13 PM (YIVH2)

62 55 Is that a joke? I honestly don't know because Marvel is now dead to me, so it could be real or it could be a dead-naming the Star Wars Holiday Special.

(Note: I don't care enough to google it.)
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at March 21, 2023 12:12 PM (N1tpc)

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It is. They kidnap Kevin Bacon as a present to Starlord.

I've heard it's slightly amusing.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 21, 2023 12:13 PM (LvTSG)

63 I can't watch X-Men movies since they were made by a Pedo, Director

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at March 21, 2023 12:13 PM (dKiJG)

64 I been runoft so long that most of this is now just meaningless gibberish to me.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at March 21, 2023 12:14 PM (trVDr)

65 Kennedy will be given a "Viking funeral,"
__

Wrapped up in linens at the bottom of the skiff, set adrift in the harbor then fired upon with flaming arrows? I'd watch.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at March 21, 2023 12:04 PM (fs1hN)

i'd pay to see it once...

Posted by: SturmToddler at March 21, 2023 12:14 PM (nXhwP)

66 ...there were no groups of girls or women going together to see Ant-Man.

Thor, maybe, Ant-Man, no.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 21, 2023 12:14 PM (GYIa4)

67 It is. They kidnap Kevin Bacon as a present to Starlord.

I've heard it's slightly amusing.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 21, 2023 12:13 PM (LvTSG)

I saw it... It was

Posted by: It's me donna at March 21, 2023 12:14 PM (bs+z0)

68 It's amazing how diversity hires become expendable as the economy goes onto the rocks.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 21, 2023 12:14 PM (2tUFv)

69 >>>t doesn't matter. Fire her or not. Lucasfilm is dead. Perhaps the most valuable single entertainment franchise company in history - on the backs of Star Wars and Indiana Jones - is finished.

agreed. I meant to say that but I forgot to. I keep adding stuff I forgot to add on the first pass.

Posted by: ace at March 21, 2023 12:14 PM (BvUNN)

70 I still expect Marvel to be pretty much done within three years.
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Which will be a disaster for Disney, at least as far as movies and stuff go. Marvel is all it has left, and it's on the ropes.

Lucasfilm is dead.
Pixar is dead.
Disney's non-franchise movies are dead.

Disney paid dearly for Fox to get the final pieces of Lucasfilm and the rest (except Spiderman) of Marvel. Marvel's their last lifeboat, and it's sinking fast.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 21, 2023 12:14 PM (t0OGg)

71 >Alonso added then that members of the LGBTQ+ community "deserve the right to live, love, and have. More importantly, we deserve an origin story...As long as I am at Marvel Studios I will fight for representation for all of us."

But they can never make their own original characters, can they? Nope, they have to hijack existing, popular characters and retcon them to be queer. Which is about the least interesting trait about any person out of all of the traits out there. Kill character, wear skinsuit, drive fans away, rinse, repeat.

Making their own original characters would require the work hard work of making characters and worlds compelling enough to gain a fan base. Why bother, when you can steal the accumulated goodwill of those far more talented who came before you.

Evil cannot create, it can only warp and destroy (apologies to Tolkien).

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at March 21, 2023 12:15 PM (mGabY)

72 Starting the afternoon with scurrilous attacks against two accomplished female executives is beyond the pale. The fact that they both ruined franchises that should have been cash cows for decades is beside the point. The damage is amazing to behold.

Posted by: Cash Cow-Now Hamburger at March 21, 2023 12:15 PM (wrJpE)

73 Maria Conchita Alonso >>> Victoria Alonso

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 21, 2023 12:15 PM (Wnv9h)

74 The Julliard Scene from Tar would be the best pictographical illustration of Victoria Alonso and what happened to her.


Tar to Alonso: The architect of your soul seems to be social media, If you want to dance the Masque, you must service the composer, bitch!

Posted by: Thomas Bender - Trump Fanatic Since 2016, Now With More Fanaticisms at March 21, 2023 12:15 PM (XFPre)

75 ..there were no groups of girls or women going together to see Ant-Man.

Thor, maybe, Ant-Man, no.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 21, 2023


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There might have been some women eager to see Aquaman.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 21, 2023 12:15 PM (J2vNu)

76 Alonso a hispanic?
A checkbox hispanic, maybe.

Judging from online pics.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at March 21, 2023 12:15 PM (1leaF)

77 70 Disney paid dearly for Fox to get the final pieces of Lucasfilm and the rest (except Spiderman) of Marvel. Marvel's their last lifeboat, and it's sinking fast.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 21, 2023 12:14 PM (t0OGg)

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It's a good thing for them that their parks business isn't suddenly becoming far more expensive for easily foreseeable reasons.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 21, 2023 12:15 PM (LvTSG)

78 55 Posted by: Formerly Virginian at March 21, 2023 12:12 PM (N1tpc)

Not a joke, James Gunn accidentally made the big surprise hit of the Marvel franchise...

I called it out as being a hit, but he essentially cribbed Star Wars a lot in it.

I made the mistake of thinking he was not a retarded toxic moonbat based on the geurilla optimism in GotG.

He cured me of the notion with Peacemaker.

Posted by: sven at March 21, 2023 12:15 PM (Lzpvj)

79 Sgt. Rick was Sgt. Rock's cousin in the British army.

Posted by: Eromero at March 21, 2023 12:16 PM (MF3yS)

80 >>>t doesn't matter. Fire her or not. Lucasfilm is dead. Perhaps the most valuable single entertainment franchise company in history - on the backs of Star Wars and Indiana Jones - is finished.

agreed. I meant to say that but I forgot to. I keep adding stuff I forgot to add on the first pass.
Posted by: ace at March 21, 2023 12:14 PM (BvUNN)
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Yep. When you hand over creative control to people who 1) don't understand the franchise and 2) actively hate everything that came before, you do not get quality content. That's exactly what happened with Star Wars. It's exactly what we are getting with Lord of the Rings.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 21, 2023 12:16 PM (YIVH2)

81 It is difficult for me to understand why Studios hire or promote people who are complete leftards, and pollute everything they lay their hands to. This is especially mystifying concerning the Action Adventure genre, which is mainly viewed by men. Men who hate leftard nonsense and won't put up with it. Yet, they persist...

Posted by: Brewingfrog at March 21, 2023 12:16 PM (5gZpE)

82 The last Star Wars film I watched starred Jar Jar Binks. At the end of the film, all I could do was mutter to myself, "that's the end of that sh*t." And I haven't watched anything Star Warsian since.

Posted by: mrp at March 21, 2023 12:16 PM (rj6Yv)

83 71 >Alonso added then that members of the LGBTQ+ community "deserve the right to live, love, and have. More importantly, we deserve an origin story...As long as I am at Marvel Studios I will fight for representation for all of us."


By origin stories does she mean what, in particular, turned them gay? Will they be delving into pedophilia and grooming?

Posted by: N. Lurker at March 21, 2023 12:17 PM (eGTCV)

84 Has anybody watched MEL BROOKS History of the World Part 2. I didn't bother because of the People involved, I haven't seen anything on it?

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at March 21, 2023 12:17 PM (yI+AK)

85 Goofed off enough, back to work

Posted by: Skip at March 21, 2023 12:17 PM (KPgsx)

86 It's amazing how diversity hires become expendable as the economy goes onto the rocks.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 21, 2023 12:14 PM



*holds up sign*

Will Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! For Food

Posted by: Thousands of Unemployed DIE Directors at March 21, 2023 12:17 PM (Wnv9h)

87 That Namor rebranding thing is so stupid. Wasn’t the guy from Atlantis, which sunk into the sea thousands of years ago, before teh Hispanx were even around?

The stoopid. It burns.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at March 21, 2023 12:17 PM (hTf8I)

88 I still expect Marvel to be pretty much done within three years.

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Feige keeps talking about how the next Avengers movie will be all new heroes.

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This is mind blowing. They had permission to write checks to themselves for billions of dollars every quarter.

"Hey, look, here are well-loved characters that we can make movies about ever few years, and cycle between the characters as our main draw every year, and maybe every four years or so we can have a movie where they all team up. This could last over a decade. We could literally make a trillion dollars.

Eh, screw it. "

Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 21, 2023 12:17 PM (dGQu9)

89 Maybe someone talented could redo House on Haunted Hill without fucking it up?

Posted by: Pudinhead at March 21, 2023 12:17 PM (4eKPg)

90 I'd like my comic book movies to stick to the tried and true good vs evil and overcoming ourselves to find the courage to do it.

Posted by: Seems Legit at March 21, 2023 12:17 PM (DcKNO)

91 Why on Earth would you put women in charge of anything like this?

It's comical/sad but women seem to just take great pleasure in destroying anything males appreciate.

Look, if a woman wants to run a studio's Rom Com films, that is what they are well suited for. But not comic/Sci Fi movies. I doubt any of them ever even read a single comic in their life before they were hired.

Posted by: Blago at March 21, 2023 12:17 PM (cOFom)

92 80 Yep. When you hand over creative control to people who 1) don't understand the franchise and 2) actively hate everything that came before, you do not get quality content. That's exactly what happened with Star Wars. It's exactly what we are getting with Lord of the Rings.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 21, 2023 12:16 PM (YIVH2)

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I hope WB's efforts at new Lord of the Rings movies end up good. They say they're including Peter Jackson, also what Amazon said about Rings of Power, but Amazon ghosted Jackson who just shrugged and went back to buying New Zealand politicians to increase his real estate holdings cheaply.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 21, 2023 12:17 PM (LvTSG)

93 71 Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at March 21, 2023 12:15 PM (mGabY)

There were several long established gay characters in comics.

Northstar of the X-men, Extrano in DC....

You'll note neither has a film yet.

Posted by: sven at March 21, 2023 12:17 PM (Lzpvj)

94 "But the report is that Disney -- Chapek, then Iger -- have said a firm "no" to Kennedy's attempts to cling to power and they want her out after the Disney convention."

I believe exactly zero of all this insider-knowledge crap precisely because most of it is crap.

Has anything Doomcock has said turned out to be true? I remember dozens of times of "KATHLEEN KENNEDY IS OUT!"... and she's still there.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at March 21, 2023 12:18 PM (N1tpc)

95 Good early afternoon!

Posted by: Floridachick at March 21, 2023 12:18 PM (/k9DC)

96 Real superhero and feel-good story of the day.

A Florida dad shot his daughter's abusive ex-boyfriend dead after the man allegedly assaulted her in her apartment – then came back for more, according to police.

One round in the chest. Nice center mass shot Dad. One dead scumbag. Well done.

Posted by: Minnfidel at March 21, 2023 12:18 PM (GDJBM)

97 That Namor rebranding thing is so stupid. Wasn’t the guy from Atlantis, which sunk into the sea thousands of years ago, before teh Hispanx were even around?

The stoopid. It burns.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at March 21, 2023 12:17 PM (hTf8I)
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Forget the past. Kill it if you have to.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 21, 2023 12:18 PM (t0OGg)

98 How many executive lesbians are actually lesbians as opposed to lesbians for business or political purposes?

Hey, if you are a white male trying to break into entertainment, academics, or a host of other fields, you had better claim that you are homosexual, if you want to have any hope of being hired.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 21, 2023 12:18 PM (2tUFv)

99 It takes real talent to drive men away from a movie featuring Scarlett Johansson in skin-tight leather pants, but somehow she managed to pull it off.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at March 21, 2023 12:18 PM (bW8dp)

100 >For myself, the interest in this post is relative to the “politics is downstream of culture” truth… a very significant matter.
Posted by: tubal at March 21, 2023 12:09 PM (PCK5/)

Absolutely, which is why I'm more drawn to the culture war posts and society meta-commentary than the political shit-flinging posts (but sometimes I can't help but to hurl a turd occasionally too).

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at March 21, 2023 12:18 PM (mGabY)

101 More importantly, we deserve an origin story

You see, Victoria, when two normies love each other very much....

Posted by: Thousands of Unemployed DIE Directors at March 21, 2023 12:18 PM (Wnv9h)

102 This is about comic books, right?

Posted by: Just Wondering at March 21, 2023 12:18 PM (JoJKJ)

103 The last Star Wars film I watched starred Jar Jar Binks. At the end of the film, all I could do was mutter to myself, "that's the end of that sh*t." And I haven't watched anything Star Warsian since.

Posted by: mrp

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The funny part? People are now looking at those movies and saying, "You know, they weren't that bad compared to Disney's stuff."

Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 21, 2023 12:18 PM (dGQu9)

104 Off, sock!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 21, 2023 12:19 PM (Wnv9h)

105 That's a shame.

Anyways......


Posted by: Bosk at March 21, 2023 12:19 PM (ZVuYy)

106 gt. Rick was Sgt. Rock's cousin in the British army.

Posted by: Eromero at March 21, 2023 12:16 PM (MF3yS)

Way back in the early 90's they were talking about a Sgt Rock film starring... Arnold Schwarzenegger.

"Jah, her come da Germans!"

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at March 21, 2023 12:19 PM (OgrpQ)

107 Yep. When you hand over creative control to people who 1) don't understand the franchise and 2) actively hate everything that came before, you do not get quality content. That's exactly what happened with Star Wars. It's exactly what we are getting with Lord of the Rings.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 21, 2023


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It's as if we were to get a new Ellery Queen movie set in 1936 -- but EQ is ghey, he has a smart black lady professor who helps him on cases, and the solution turns on an intuitive flash of his instead of being built on logic.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 21, 2023 12:19 PM (J2vNu)

108 NERDS!

Posted by: Minnfidel at March 21, 2023 12:19 PM (GDJBM)

109 96 Posted by: Minnfidel at March 21, 2023 12:18 PM (GDJBM)

Ohio did it first and with a doorbell cam catching all the fun.

Posted by: sven at March 21, 2023 12:19 PM (Lzpvj)

110 La Rasa has never addressed their problem with using the language of the Conquistadors either

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 21, 2023 12:19 PM (ZTAGJ)

111 1. Ominous villaain threatens world/Nation/metropolitan area.
2. Hapless soon-to-be superhero mopes in mom's basement.
3. Transforming chemical/radiation/industrial accident
4. Newly minted superhero bungles first attempts at using newly acquired super powers in redonkulous CGI sequence.
5. Smart alecky wisecrack.
6. Superhero stops minor street crime in redonkulous CGI sequence.
7. More smart alecky wisecracks.
8. Superhero battles ominous villain in 38-minute long redonkulous CGI sequence.
9. Roll credits.

Posted by: Muldoon at March 21, 2023 12:20 PM (ykeLU)

112
Von Doomcock is great, but the really sage analysis comes from Harvey Cthulu.

Posted by: Auspex at March 21, 2023 12:20 PM (QarLh)

113 White Hispanic Karen

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at March 21, 2023 12:20 PM (VTu1l)

114 Re: Star Wars drama

you probably know this, but others maybe don't: The rumor, which is highly plausible, HIGHLY, is that Chapek/Iger have let Kennedy stay on a figurehead and caretaker, because they don't have the balls to fire a Feminist Failure, but they also don't want her trying to make any more star wars movies.

So they told her, you can stay and feel important in your office, but you have no power to greenlight movies and, in fact, cannot even announce them without clearing it through us -- and we'll say no.

So what she keeps doing is making deals to get people to write scripts and then leaking the fiction that a new star wars movie is coming to the Disney-sycophant Hollywood press. Just so she can pretend she's still Queen Bitch.

And the rumor says further that people are getting sick of her doing this. This is subordinate and violate their agreement.

Posted by: ace at March 21, 2023 12:20 PM (BvUNN)

115 I never understood why a character as irritating as Jar Jar Binks wasn't cut out after the first screening or really after the first script read.

Posted by: Seems Legit at March 21, 2023 12:21 PM (DcKNO)

116 The funny part? People are now looking at those movies and saying, "You know, they weren't that bad compared to Disney's stuff."
Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 21, 2023 12:18 PM (dGQu9)
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Yup, and those people aren't wrong. The prequel trilogy wasn't very good, but it was worlds better than the sequel trilogy. The catastrophe that is Disney Star Wars didn't make the sequel trilogy good, it just made it better by comparison.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 21, 2023 12:21 PM (t0OGg)

117 110 La Rasa has never addressed their problem with using the language of the Conquistadors either
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LaRasa is about Caucasians. Not many people know this.

Posted by: Pudinhead at March 21, 2023 12:21 PM (4eKPg)

118 Hey, if you are a white male trying to break into entertainment, academics, or a host of other fields, you had better claim that you are homosexual, if you want to have any hope of being hired.

Stanford latest entering class is 22% white. I wonder how many of those claimed to be sexually "diverse"?

I bet over half.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 21, 2023 12:21 PM (2tUFv)

119 88 Eh, screw it. "
Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 21, 2023 12:17 PM (dGQu9)

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Meh.

Relying on particular actors for roles is something that Feige knew from early on was a mistake. They all signed 9 movie contracts at lowered rates. Everyone except Downey Jr. who was the first and was pulling $50 million paydays by the time of Endgame.

He's got a universe, and he started the whole machine running with freaking Iron Man. No one cared about Iron Man.

It could have worked. Hell, the Guardians of the Galaxy were C-list, and they became real money makers. It's just...they oversaturated and, when combined with the miscalculation that streaming was as profitable as theaters, they undermined the brand for a solid 3 years after their height. There's a lot of miscalculation going on, but the new heroes angle is the worst part of it. Making the new heroes awful just accelerated things.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 21, 2023 12:21 PM (LvTSG)

120 La Rasa has never addressed their problem with using the language of the Conquistadors either

Posted by: Anna Puma

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I remain unclear on how Spanish culture is somehow not European and also a minority.

Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 21, 2023 12:21 PM (dGQu9)

121 I think Von Doomcock is very easily led by sources that may be hostile to him. He's announced that Kennedy will be fired Real Soon Now for years. It doesn't take seven years to fire someone.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 21, 2023 12:21 PM (p+1gI)

122 >Has anybody watched MEL BROOKS History of the World Part 2. I didn't bother because of the People involved, I haven't seen anything on it?
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at March 21, 2023 12:17 PM (yI+AK)

The commercial where he bragged about how he got his check was enough signal to me to stay far away from it. Plenty of woketard cast advertised too. No thanks.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at March 21, 2023 12:21 PM (mGabY)

123 I would laugh at this, but the same or worse woke people are running the federal government and the money supply.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 21, 2023 12:21 PM (lTGtQ)

124 Kathleen Kennedy

Why you never put the coffee gopher in charge.

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 21, 2023 12:21 PM (ZTAGJ)

125

Ringling Bros. Barnum & Bailey Circus announced its return for the first time since 2017, when organizers shut down due to lagging ticket sales. The reimagined experience puts the focus on entertainers and scraps the animal acts that came under fire and led to costly litigation and protests.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 21, 2023 12:22 PM (63Dwl)

126 94 Posted by: Formerly Virginian at March 21, 2023 12:18 PM (N1tpc)

Kathleen Katherine Kennedy is married to a whore e wood powerbroker and probably has pics of Spielberg and Lucas in flagrant delicto Epstein style...

would not shock me at all if she doesn't have the goods on Disney management by now.

Posted by: sven at March 21, 2023 12:22 PM (Lzpvj)

127 It's as if we were to get a new Ellery Queen movie set in 1936 -- but EQ is ghey, he has a smart black lady professor who helps him on cases, and the solution turns on an intuitive flash of his instead of being built on logic.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 21, 2023 12:19 PM (J2vNu)
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:: makes telephone gesture with hand ::

Call me!

Posted by: Any Hollywood Studio at March 21, 2023 12:22 PM (t0OGg)

128 Reading some things on Reddit about Victoria Alonso, apparently people that worked with her directly are saying she was incredibly abusive around everyone. In addition, her actual work was just absolute shit. The visual effects looked cheap, etc.

Posted by: Blago at March 21, 2023 12:22 PM (cOFom)

129 This is about comic books, right?
Posted by: Just Wondering at March 21, 2023 12:18 PM

Yea, Meh, I'm just here for the smart military commentary. And bewbs and fish puns. But mostly bewbs. Comic books, LOTR etc. etc. bore me. To each their own. At least like it sounds like Superman is getting his balls back. Then again I haven't watched Superman since Christopher Reeves.

Posted by: Minnfidel at March 21, 2023 12:22 PM (GDJBM)

130 DiscussingFilm @DiscussingFilm
17h

Victoria Alonso was reportedly singularly responsible for the toxic work environment within Marvel's VFX departments.

She would reportedly give work to teams she liked but "if you have pissed her off in any way, you're going to get frozen out."

Posted by: artisanal ette at March 21, 2023 12:22 PM (uQPen)

131 Like every company and corporation, they were betting the Future would be Woke. They were willing to take short-term losses in hope of larger future profits. I think jury is still out on whether that strategy is correct. I can think of lots of reasons people stay away from movie theaters that have nothing to do with wokeness.

Posted by: Knock gp A Kiss at March 21, 2023 12:23 PM (MvF+J)

132 > There might have been some women eager to see Aquaman.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 21, 2023 12:15 PM (J2vNu)

That's a DC property, though, not Marvel

Credit where it's due: with Momoa they managed to make a non-gay Aquaman, an impressive feat since the original Aquaman was pretty much the gayest character in comics.

I've known some of the female persuasion who were rather fond of Downey's Tony Stark, also. Rich, handsome, intelligent, brave, and heroic: together they add up to the panties coming off in a hurry.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at March 21, 2023 12:23 PM (bW8dp)

133 114 So what she keeps doing is making deals to get people to write scripts and then leaking the fiction that a new star wars movie is coming to the Disney-sycophant Hollywood press. Just so she can pretend she's still Queen Bitch.

And the rumor says further that people are getting sick of her doing this. This is subordinate and violate their agreement.
Posted by: ace at March 21, 2023 12:20 PM (BvUNN)

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It's fun to watch Disney shills cling onto every stupid bit of news about potential projects, pointing to them and saying, "See?! Disney is doing great!"

What's going on now doesn't matter.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 21, 2023 12:23 PM (LvTSG)

134 Trump just called Stormy horse face.

Posted by: LMAO at March 21, 2023 12:23 PM (vjIFm)

135 There's a lot of miscalculation going on, but the new heroes angle is the worst part of it. Making the new heroes awful just accelerated things.

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Imagine having a checkbook that only wrote billion dollar checks, payable to cash, and deciding you wanted to try something new and gay instead.

Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 21, 2023 12:23 PM (dGQu9)

136 These people are fucked in the head.

They shouldn't even be washing dishes at the local diner.

Posted by: Clark Griswold at March 21, 2023 12:23 PM (ufFY8)

137 Apparently there is an episodic version of Disco Elysium in the works, this fills me with dread as they are going to obviously butcher it and lose the plot of what made the game awesome.

Posted by: Thomas Bender - Trump Fanatic Since 2016, Now With More Fanaticisms at March 21, 2023 12:23 PM (XFPre)

138 I think the point of movies, comic books, sports was to escape reality. A mental vacation from politics, ideology-day to day drudgery. Now they're "recruiting tools"; there is no "escape"....

Posted by: pahound at March 21, 2023 12:24 PM (1hmZV)

139 But they can never make their own original characters, can they? Nope, they have to hijack existing, popular characters and retcon them to be queer. Which is about the least interesting trait about any person out of all of the traits out there.

I, Spiderman, am about to do battle with the Green Goblin - again - in order to save humanity but first I will spend 30 minutes on a soliloquy about how much I just love cock.

I mean, it's a sure winner.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 21, 2023 12:24 PM (GYIa4)

140 > Kathleen Katherine Kennedy

She's the one that Old Joe had lobotomized, right?

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at March 21, 2023 12:24 PM (bW8dp)

141 You could rewrite Arthur Conan Doyle's works and make Holmes a female-to-male tranny who commits suicide by poisoning himself due to lack of access to gender-affirming care.

"The Adventures of Himlock Holmes"

Posted by: Muldoon at March 21, 2023 12:24 PM (ykeLU)

142 Ringling Bros. Barnum & Bailey Circus announced its return for the first time since 2017, when organizers shut down due to lagging ticket sales. The reimagined experience puts the focus on entertainers and scraps the animal acts that came under fire and led to costly litigation and protests.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.




So it will be a circus without the ....... circus.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 21, 2023 12:24 PM (lTGtQ)

143 BTW they wanted to kick off another "verse" based on the Bloodshot character played by Vin Diesel, but that got derailed by a poor showing and the wong fong your ding dong virus

Now they want to reboot that and spearhead the lead-in to this new "verse" with a second attempt, only using an obese Uranus sized white cuntwalker named Big Bertha, who as part of her resume of heroic acts, helps protect Hillary Clinton from the dark forces of evil (e.g. tax paying Americans)

I am not making this shit up

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at March 21, 2023 12:24 PM (VTu1l)

144 On the plus side, this isn't a Disney Problem. It's beyond that. I very strongly suspect that this is a Hollywood Problem. The smaller studios with less cash to burn than Disney might try changing things up, which might end up being beneficial.

But all of this shit that's wrong at Disney - the bad stories, the poor performance, the trashing of once-valuable franchises, the internal imperial competitions, the identity politics in all things, the lousy all-around product, etc. - is wrong in most if not all of Hollywood generally.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 21, 2023 12:24 PM (t0OGg)

145 The damage to our culture is done.

Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at March 21, 2023 12:24 PM (GD2xa)

146 139 But they can never make their own original characters, can they? Nope, they have to hijack existing, popular characters and retcon them to be queer. Which is about the least interesting trait about any person out of all of the traits out there.

I, Spiderman, am about to do battle with the Green Goblin - again - in order to save humanity but first I will spend 30 minutes on a soliloquy about how much I just love cock.

I mean, it's a sure winner.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 21, 2023 12:24 PM (GYIa4)

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Incorrect. The Spider-Man and Green Goblin will team up together to fight the real villain: Donald Trump and racism.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 21, 2023 12:24 PM (LvTSG)

147 Why you never put the coffee gopher in charge.

The hell you say!

Posted by: Zombie Konstantin Chernenko! at March 21, 2023 12:25 PM (2tUFv)

148 115 Posted by: Seems Legit at March 21, 2023 12:21 PM (DcKNO)

Because George Lucas has a lot of guilt over his crypto racism...no I am not kidding look at the racial stereotypes of his aliens and understand that "Marion Ravenwood was 14 when she was Banging Indy" guy is fucked up enough socially he thought Darth Binks was an African-American/Jamaican empowering portrayal.

Lucas needed people with the balls to say no, he fired them all by 1983.

Posted by: sven at March 21, 2023 12:25 PM (Lzpvj)

149 "The last Star Wars film I watched starred Jar Jar Binks."

People bitch about Binks, but I still insist he was the BEST ACTOR in the film. Gawd, that kid actor was awful.

Posted by: Knock gp A Kiss at March 21, 2023 12:25 PM (MvF+J)

150 There might have been some women eager to see Aquaman.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 21, 2023 12:15 PM (J2vNu)


This thread is Marvel country, heretic!

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 21, 2023 12:25 PM (GYIa4)

151 You misspelled Hedley Hemlock Holmes...

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 21, 2023 12:25 PM (ZTAGJ)

152 >111 1. Ominous villaain threatens world/Nation/metropolitan area.
2. Hapless soon-to-be superhero mopes in mom's basement.
3. Transforming chemical/radiation/industrial accident
4. Newly minted superhero bungles first attempts at using newly acquired super powers in redonkulous CGI sequence.
5. Smart alecky wisecrack.
6. Superhero stops minor street crime in redonkulous CGI sequence.
7. More smart alecky wisecracks.
8. Superhero battles ominous villain in 38-minute long redonkulous CGI sequence.
9. Roll credits.

Posted by: Muldoon at March 21, 2023 12:20 PM (ykeLU)

What a redonkulous premise!

Posted by: Heavy Meta at March 21, 2023 12:25 PM (NgqoH)

153 Men are the primary audience. Women that are there are with MEN, straight women. So pandering to the gays isn't helping anything.

Posted by: SmileyGG at March 21, 2023 12:25 PM (77cT/)

154 I remain unclear on how Spanish culture is somehow not European and also a minority.
Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 21, 2023 12:21 PM


It isn't. If you're a native Spaniard, you aren't "Hispanic". You have to have some Amerindian blood in you. It isn't about race. It's about identifying the colonizers and the colonized. This makes no sense to normies from Spain, but it's how the racial bean counters count racial beans.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 21, 2023 12:25 PM (Wnv9h)

155 Ringling Bros. Barnum & Bailey Circus announced its return for the first time since 2017, when organizers shut down due to lagging ticket sales. The reimagined experience puts the focus on entertainers and scraps the animal acts that came under fire and led to costly litigation and protests.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 21, 2023 12:22 PM (63Dwl)

No RingMaster because Master is bad word now. SO they can go F themselves, Glad I was able to take my son to see it when they had the Elephants now it's just a ripoff of cirque du soleil

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at March 21, 2023 12:25 PM (dTgOy)

156 >>>87 That Namor rebranding thing is so stupid. Wasn’t the guy from Atlantis, which sunk into the sea thousands of years ago, before teh Hispanx were even around?

they changed it in the movie to Mayan version of Atlantis, partly just to not seem like they were copying Aquaman. In fact, Namor began in the 40s, and Aquaman, the 60s.

But also to make marvel more "diverse."

Many people have pointed out that Namor looks possibly Pacific Islander or Asian. Not sure why they were determined to go with "hispanic." Possibly Alonso fighting for that "28% of our audience is Hispanic."

Posted by: ace at March 21, 2023 12:26 PM (BvUNN)

157 It's comical/sad but women seem to just take great pleasure in destroying anything males appreciate.

Look, if a woman wants to run a studio's Rom Com films, that is what they are well suited for. But not comic/Sci Fi movies. I doubt any of them ever even read a single comic in their life before they were hired.
Posted by: Blago at March 21, 2023


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It seems true now, but it wasn't always. Leigh Brackett co-wrote The Big Sleep w/ Bogart for Howard Hawks, penned SF novels with strong male characters, scripted at least one of John Wayne's Rio [Blank] movies, and did the first draft of the finest of the Star Wars movies, Empire Strikes Back. She knew how to tell a good story.

On the other hand, she was not a studio executive, producer, or director.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 21, 2023 12:26 PM (J2vNu)

158 96 Posted by: Minnfidel at March 21, 2023 12:18 PM (GDJBM)

Ohio did it first and with a doorbell cam catching all the fun.
Posted by: sven at March 21, 2023 12:19

I'd pay to see that. Vigilante Pron! I love when the real bad guys in this world go out with a gaping painful center mass shot from a good guy. And it's in FL so this Dad will not have to worry about the SJW DA.

Posted by: Minnfidel at March 21, 2023 12:26 PM (GDJBM)

159 "Showing the world as it is."

Comic book movies.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at March 21, 2023 12:26 PM (wzAuc)

160 Kathleen Kennedy has been "about to be fired" since 2018. Disney is not going to change or go un-woke, not unless conservatives buy all its shares and force them to. People need to let go of Disney. Find new things and support those.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at March 21, 2023 12:26 PM (3Z0xj)

161 Trump just called Stormy horse face.

************

YOU DICK!!!

Posted by: Sarah Jessica Parker at March 21, 2023 12:26 PM (VTu1l)

162 >>>George Lucas has a lot of guilt over his crypto racism...no I am not kidding look at the racial stereotypes of his aliens and understand that "Marion Ravenwood was 14 when she was Banging Indy

14?

I think the original age was... eleven.

Posted by: ace at March 21, 2023 12:27 PM (BvUNN)

163
I, Spiderman, am about to do battle with the Green Goblin - again - in order to save humanity but first I will spend 30 minutes on a soliloquy about how much I just love cock.

I mean, it's a sure winner.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic

--

I remember watching the Incredible Hulk and some other shows in the 70s and 80s, and every episode was a new adventure. You don't have to save the world from the Big Bad every single time. Tell a story instead.

But Hollywood seems to have forgotten how to do that.

Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 21, 2023 12:27 PM (dGQu9)

164 This busty blonde with a bit of underboob is, like, *so* over the MCU:
https://is.gd/CaaGDi

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 21, 2023 12:27 PM (t0OGg)

165 Trump just called Stormy horse face.

I saw a picture of a mostly naked Stormy Daniels during her anti-Trump tour of strip clubs a few years ago.

Let's just say that she really needs to find another line of work.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 21, 2023 12:27 PM (2tUFv)

166 >Posted by: sven at March 21, 2023 12:25 PM (Lzpvj)

George "White Slavery" Lucas???

LOL

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at March 21, 2023 12:27 PM (mGabY)

167 149 Posted by: Knock gp A Kiss at March 21, 2023 12:25 PM (MvF+J)

Eh "no" Ewan MacDonald portraying Sir Alec Guiness cashing a paycheck was the best actor followed by Palpatine.

Posted by: sven at March 21, 2023 12:27 PM (Lzpvj)

168 > Gawd, that kid actor was awful.
Posted by: Knock gp A Kiss at March 21, 2023 12:25 PM (MvF+J)

Agreed. Jar Jar was annoying, but the kid was terrible... and he got a lot more screen time.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at March 21, 2023 12:27 PM (bW8dp)

169 Whoops my mistake, the superheroine (lulz) was Faith, not Big Bertha

sorry, I get all these planet sized land whales confused

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at March 21, 2023 12:27 PM (VTu1l)

170 144 But all of this shit that's wrong at Disney - the bad stories, the poor performance, the trashing of once-valuable franchises, the internal imperial competitions, the identity politics in all things, the lousy all-around product, etc. - is wrong in most if not all of Hollywood generally.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 21, 2023 12:24 PM (t0OGg)

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Talent is spread very thin. The good lower tier talent gets gobbled up by the bigger machines where their voices are washed out of the products. The director of Black Widow was a German woman who made a small movie about a girl trying to survive post-war Germany while taking care of her little siblings called Lore (I think it's overpraised, but feminism).

The machine gobbled her up and said, "You will make a Marvel movie. Don't do anything interesting."

The thing is that machines CAN create a lot of great content, but that requires highly skilled executives at the top. It seemed like Feige was a modern day Irving Thalberg, but it seems he rode an early wave of success he barely understood to a power position where he's just mismanaging everything.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 21, 2023 12:27 PM (LvTSG)

171 "Trump just called Stormy horse face."

Why's he phoning her? Doesn't he have enough trouble already?

Posted by: Knock gp A Kiss at March 21, 2023 12:27 PM (MvF+J)

172 11 or 14 will still get you 20.

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 21, 2023 12:28 PM (ZTAGJ)

173 Men are the primary audience. Women that are there are with MEN, straight women. So pandering to the gays isn't helping anything.
Posted by: SmileyGG at March 21, 2023 12:25 PM

NO! It MUST be done, pandering to gheys is a civil duty! The schools are doing their best to churn these fucked up kids out fast to catch up with Disney.

Posted by: Minnfidel at March 21, 2023 12:28 PM (GDJBM)

174 Weird that comics are fantasy and yet they can't seem to find originality in a fantasy universe. How is that possible? Anything is possible in a fantasy universe.

Posted by: Seems Legit at March 21, 2023 12:28 PM (DcKNO)

175 >>>
It seems true now, but it wasn't always. Leigh Brackett co-wrote The Big Sleep w/ Bogart for Howard Hawks, penned SF novels with strong male characters, scripted at least one of John Wayne's Rio [Blank] movies, and did the first draft of the finest of the Star Wars movies, Empire Strikes Back. She knew how to tell a good story.

yeah but she was hired to write Empire Strikes Back because of her background in SF -- not just because she was "diverse."

None of these current diversity hires have any appreciation for the stuff they're ruining. They just see it as a good vehicle for hardcore activism, and taking away Stuff Boys Like from them, and teaching them to prefer Girls Stuff, which is of course always better.

Posted by: ace at March 21, 2023 12:29 PM (BvUNN)

176 166 Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at March 21, 2023 12:27 PM (mGabY)

Indeed, look back on his catalog he manages to shit on every non-californian group out there....

It would be hilarious if the end results were not so tragic....

I hope the bl*wjob he got from the Berkeley bunch he hire on right around empire to convince him the US was the empire was as good as SBF's galpal.

Posted by: sven at March 21, 2023 12:29 PM (Lzpvj)

177 Hey, if you are a white male trying to break into entertainment, academics, or a host of other fields, you had better claim that you are homosexual, if you want to have any hope of being hired.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 21, 2023 12:18 PM (2tUFv)


Long as you don't have to give a demo.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 21, 2023 12:29 PM (GYIa4)

178 But you forget about the slave owner of Anakin - Watoo

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 21, 2023 12:29 PM (ZTAGJ)

179 The thing is that machines CAN create a lot of great content, but that requires highly skilled executives at the top. It seemed like Feige was a modern day Irving Thalberg, but it seems he rode an early wave of success he barely understood to a power position where he's just mismanaging everything.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 21, 2023 12:27 PM (LvTSG)
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So he's a one-trick pony that can't perform at the level he's risen to courtesy of the one trick? That could be.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 21, 2023 12:29 PM (t0OGg)

180 When will they change Spiderman to Spiderperson?

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at March 21, 2023 12:29 PM (lf83v)

181 I'm not saying it's lazbians, but it's lazbians.

Posted by: Giorgio Tsoukalolookalous at March 21, 2023 12:29 PM (B8BKL)

182 The ONLY thing women like MORE than The Sportsballz is The Comics.

Posted by: garrett at March 21, 2023 12:29 PM (o1eXi)

183 I didn't know that Marion was supposed to be that young. Holy smokes.

Posted by: Seems Legit at March 21, 2023 12:30 PM (DcKNO)

184 >I remember watching the Incredible Hulk and some other shows in the 70s and 80s, and every episode was a new adventure. You don't have to save the world from the Big Bad every single time. Tell a story instead.

But Hollywood seems to have forgotten how to do that.
Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 21, 2023 12:27 PM (dGQu9)

Stories tend to be better when the stakes are smaller and the focus is on how they effect the characters on a more personal level. I think it's really hard to do the "save the world" stories well. Especially when they're not one-off movies, but a series of movies or TV shows.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at March 21, 2023 12:30 PM (mGabY)

185 It isn't. If you're a native Spaniard, you aren't "Hispanic". You have to have some Amerindian blood in you.

--

Yep, and - leaving out the catholicism and everything else - that makes you of European descent. Which was my point.

Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 21, 2023 12:30 PM (dGQu9)

186 When will they change Spiderman to Spiderperson

*******

That's Spiderthey

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at March 21, 2023 12:30 PM (VTu1l)

187 179 So he's a one-trick pony that can't perform at the level he's risen to courtesy of the one trick? That could be.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 21, 2023 12:29 PM (t0OGg)

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I'm not even sure he's that good at the one trick.

I think he was luckier than he had any right to be.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 21, 2023 12:30 PM (LvTSG)

188 "Trump just called Stormy horse face."

Why's he phoning her? Doesn't he have enough trouble already?
Posted by: Knock gp A Kiss

____

And leave it to Trump to once again step in it and instead of making the conversation about what an incredible abuse of lawfare this is, it's instead about how ugly his old flame is.

Posted by: Blago at March 21, 2023 12:30 PM (cOFom)

189 There already is a female web-slinger in Gwen.

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 21, 2023 12:30 PM (ZTAGJ)

190 This busty blonde with a bit of underboob is, like, *so* over the MCU:

..

Uh. I know where my face belongs.

Posted by: LMAO at March 21, 2023 12:30 PM (vjIFm)

191 *Please let Kennedy be next...

Posted by: runner at March 21, 2023 12:30 PM (IetnX)

192 great expectations is being updated for MODERN AUDUICENES, so it's going to be crap.

Disney is burning thru IP's and turning them to shit, They are going to make a Live Action Robin Hood. just leave shit alone

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at March 21, 2023 12:30 PM (dTgOy)

193 None of these current diversity hires have any appreciation for the stuff they're ruining. They just see it as a good vehicle for hardcore activism, and taking away Stuff Boys Like from them, and teaching them to prefer Girls Stuff, which is of course always better.
Posted by: ace at March 21, 2023 12:29 PM (BvUNN)
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Yeah, except it's *fake* girl stuff. It isn't real in the slightest. Little girls beating up he-men and being naturally smart, likable, powerful, strong Mary Sue characters is freaking *boring.* It's dumb, fake shit that nobody likes.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 21, 2023 12:30 PM (t0OGg)

194 If you hire people to make comic-book movies whose priority is not to make comic-book movies, well . . . .

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at March 21, 2023 12:30 PM (ppBhU)

195 but was now Nahmorrh, with a Spanish flair, and that name meant "the boy without love"

I won't stay in a world without love

Posted by: Peter and Gordon at March 21, 2023 12:30 PM (xttsV)

196 168 When they saw the first daily rushes of the kid's performances, how is it that nobody said "this isn't working, at all?" It was criminal negligence.

Posted by: Knock gp A Kiss at March 21, 2023 12:31 PM (MvF+J)

197 A caught an old French Foreign Legion movie on YouTube last weekend called "Under Two Flags". This 1936 movie with Ronald Colman, Claudette Colbert, and Victor McLaglen runs rings around practically any Marvel or DC movie ever made.

Adventure, treachery, love triangle, fighting, mystery and more, all superior to cartoon movies made today.

Posted by: Beartooth at March 21, 2023 12:31 PM (H4JoC)

198 @174

>>Weird that comics are fantasy and yet they can't seem to find originality in a fantasy universe. How is that possible? Anything is possible in a fantasy universe.

They have access to thousands of stories produced over the course of 60 years and yet they can't even seem to be able to mine the gold that's right there in front of them.

Posted by: Thomas Bender - Trump Fanatic Since 2016, Now With More Fanaticisms at March 21, 2023 12:31 PM (XFPre)

199 >>>Kathleen Kennedy has been "about to be fired" since 2018. Disney is not going to change or go un-woke, not unless conservatives buy all its shares and force them to. People need to let go of Disney. Find new things and support those.

agreed that Disney should be destroyed, but I do think Kennedy is finally out. Kamran Pasha's source is someone at Disney who is responsible for planning or preparing for the Disney convention, so he's in a position to know about the "Celebration of Kathleen Kennedy." And you usually don't give a Lifetime Non-Achievement Award to someone who's still working.

Posted by: ace at March 21, 2023 12:31 PM (BvUNN)

200 >>I hope the bl*wjob he got from the Berkeley bunch


Is that required of ALL Berkely Grads? Asking re. a Cob.

Posted by: garrett at March 21, 2023 12:31 PM (o1eXi)

201 Did I ever tell you I think Super Hero cartoon stuff is stupid and gay?

Posted by: Pudinhead at March 21, 2023 12:31 PM (4eKPg)

202 I remember watching the Incredible Hulk and some other shows in the 70s and 80s, and every episode was a new adventure. You don't have to save the world from the Big Bad every single time. Tell a story instead. ...
Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 21, 2023 12:27 PM (dGQu9)
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Small-stakes stuff can work really well for an episode. If you want to do a big overarching plot like the Infinity Saga, you need some of the higher-stakes stuff peppered in, too. Maybe a third of the content, perhaps half, needs to be high-stakes. The rest can be low-stakes and character pieces.

Superman doesn't always save the entire world. Sometimes he's just taking out a corrupt banker over in Metropolis.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 21, 2023 12:32 PM (t0OGg)

203 162 Posted by: ace at March 21, 2023 12:27 PM (BvUNN)

Originally it was 11 to 20 I think....and Spielberg said "nah champ....nah 14 to 22" or something....

I posted a link to a 1990s article on it here once.

I was on the edge of worshipping Lucas as a creator growing up but by the mid 90s I knew he was weird and needed like the Japanese managerial class a professional "NO!" screamer.

In Japan because of their conformity they tend to hire a B level talent whose only job is to tell the group what retards they are.

Lucas needs a sexual deviant whisperer.

Posted by: sven at March 21, 2023 12:32 PM (Lzpvj)

204 Re: hollywood forgot how to tell stories and shows from the 70s and 80s

I have tried to watch a few shows recently that look really good and are acted well enough, but they don't teach or really tell anything. It's just "this happened, and then this happened, and did you know that this happened?"

I don't watch a lot of TVs or movies but it was enough that I noticed a small trend. Is this what moving picture entertainment has become? Have we rejected the idea of morality to the point that people don't want to teach lessons or reinforce right and wrong (unless gay, of course)?

Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 21, 2023 12:33 PM (dGQu9)

205 192 Disney is burning thru IP's and turning them to shit, They are going to make a Live Action Robin Hood. just leave shit alone
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at March 21, 2023 12:30 PM (dTgOy)

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Robin Hood is such a fascinating example of Hollywood's inability to tell stories anymore.

Every Hollywood executive thinks that audiences are familiar with Robin Hood culturally, like they all grew up with Errol Flynn's Adventures of Robin Hood, but that movie is damn near 90 years old. The last straight adaptation of Robin Hood was Kevin Costner more than 30 years ago.

And what are every adaptation of Robin Hood now? Twists on something that modern audiences have little experience with the straight version. Ridley Scott's is about Robin not being Robin. The one from a few years ago made him antifa. It's weird.

A straight adaptation of the idea without the modern twists might work reasonably enough at the box office. Not Marvel numbers, but make its money back numbers.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 21, 2023 12:33 PM (LvTSG)

206 I can't wait until all of the writer rooms are fired and replaced by a couple of techs feeding GPT-5 the right prompts to get the scripts that they want. Can't be worse than the sewage flowing out of the Didney pipeline now.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at March 21, 2023 12:33 PM (mGabY)

207 Sven

Lucas divorced his editor so...

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 21, 2023 12:33 PM (ZTAGJ)

208 >>>183 I didn't know that Marion was supposed to be that young. Holy smokes.

they got vague about what "too young" meant in the final script.

TBF, they were tossing around ideas about how the world was different in Indy's time, and how people -- children, often -- got married by age 14. I think they wanted to put that in there to show that Indy is a "rogue" but also to stress that this is a different time.

I don't know how they thought audiences would accept a "rogue" who beds 11 year olds.

In the final movie it's vague but she's pretty young still so if they had an affair years before... well, math says that she was underaged.

Posted by: ace at March 21, 2023 12:34 PM (BvUNN)

209 > yet they can't even seem to be able to mine the gold that's right there in front of them.

Well, when you have a hard rule that nothing can be used that will offend a rainbow-haired Portland barista, it gets pretty challenging.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at March 21, 2023 12:34 PM (bW8dp)

210 199 And you usually don't give a Lifetime Non-Achievement Award to someone who's still working.

Posted by: ace at March 21, 2023 12:31 PM (BvUNN)

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Unless you're Sidney Lumet. It entertains me that the Academy gave him a lifetime achievement award, and the next year he made what is considered one of his best films: Before the Devil Knows You're Dead.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 21, 2023 12:34 PM (LvTSG)

211 As for Lucas being weird -

Howard the Duck and Lea Thompson.

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 21, 2023 12:34 PM (ZTAGJ)

212 Stories tend to be better when the stakes are smaller and the focus is on how they effect the characters on a more personal level. I think it's really hard to do the "save the world" stories well. Especially when they're not one-off movies, but a series of movies or TV shows.
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at March 21, 2023 12:30 PM (mGabY)
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That's a lesson most writers need to learn at one time or another. A quiet, dramatic scene between two characters talking can sometimes be more powerful than the epic climactic battle at the end.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 21, 2023 12:34 PM (YIVH2)

213 >172 11 or 14 will still get you 20.

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 21, 2023 12:28 PM (ZTAGJ)

11 or 14 should get you beaten to a pulp with a tire iron.

Posted by: Heavy Meta at March 21, 2023 12:34 PM (NgqoH)

214 Namor always looked like Spock to me, with the pointy ears and all.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at March 21, 2023 12:34 PM (DSB5h)

215 Superman doesn't always save the entire world. Sometimes he's just taking out a corrupt banker over in Metropolis.

****************

I remember the old Spider-man show of the 70s where the villains were always your average mob dweeb, but I was amazed by how well the show was done with the stunts for that time

And then there was the Japanese Spider-Man around the same time. HO LEE FUK, this Spider-Man literally had his own Godzilla sized robot to beat down on mega monsters.

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at March 21, 2023 12:34 PM (VTu1l)

216 Final season of The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel, starts April 14th. Very funny show.

Posted by: artisanal ette at March 21, 2023 12:35 PM (uQPen)

217 Michael Avenatti is getting more pipe right now than Stormy.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at March 21, 2023 12:35 PM (lf83v)

218 84 Has anybody watched MEL BROOKS History of the World Part 2. I didn't bother because of the People involved, I haven't seen anything on it?
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at March 21, 2023 12:17 PM (yI+AK)

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I caught one brief bit of one episode. Hitler on ice. It was not funny.

Posted by: No One Of Consequence at March 21, 2023 12:35 PM (uPgE/)

219 A lot of people are just straight-up boycotting Disney no matter what the alleged merits of their films

Boycotting Disney and everything they own, boss.

Posted by: Chuck C at March 21, 2023 12:35 PM (xttsV)

220 211 As for Lucas being weird -

Howard the Duck and Lea Thompson.
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 21, 2023 12:34 PM (ZTAGJ)

Duck tits, wooo-oooo!

Posted by: Thrawn at March 21, 2023 12:35 PM (Rl7KJ)

221 210 I Love Lumet.

Posted by: Knock gp A Kiss at March 21, 2023 12:35 PM (MvF+J)

222 Anybody catch Gavin McGinnis on Nerdrotics a couple weeks ago? I watched about an hour of it, I have no idea what the Nerdrotic guy was thinking putting him on. Gavin was shitting all over him and his guests, it was one of the most uncomfortable things I've seen. I found it really funny for some reason.

Posted by: lowandslow at March 21, 2023 12:36 PM (76Foq)

223 Also, only wokesters, not ordinary people, want to see characters that reflect their skin color or sexuality. Some guy opened up a movie theater in the barrio that showed movies dubbed in Spanish. Nobody went. They preferred the English version. So they closed it down.

Posted by: PJ at March 21, 2023 12:36 PM (G1dq6)

224 Kathleen Katherine Kennedy = KKK

She has a face that would make many men consider the gay lifestyle.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 21, 2023 12:36 PM (DMyTF)

225 216 Final season of The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel, starts April 14th. Very funny show.
Posted by: artisanal ette at March 21, 2023 12:35 PM (uQPen)

Started out that way, then got mean and nasty.

Posted by: tubal at March 21, 2023 12:36 PM (PCK5/)

226 I always wondered why they didn't make a Spiderwoman. It's conceivable that a female student could have been bit by a radioactive spider as well.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at March 21, 2023 12:36 PM (lf83v)

227 > Also, only wokesters, not ordinary people, want to see characters that reflect their skin color or sexuality.

Shit, when it comes to science fiction, some of my favorite characters aren't even human fucking beings.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at March 21, 2023 12:37 PM (bW8dp)

228 >>Anybody catch Gavin McGinnis on Nerdrotics a couple weeks ago?


That guy fucked himself in the ass with a dildo.

Claimed it was a joke. To OWN the Libs or some shit...

Proud Boy, indeed. Butter Boy.

Posted by: garrett at March 21, 2023 12:37 PM (o1eXi)

229 But then, it seems like Kathleen Kennedy has already been pre-fired

Hyman Roth Kathleen Kennedy has been dying of the same heart attack for twenty years.

Posted by: Michael Corleone at March 21, 2023 12:37 PM (xttsV)

230 In Raiders as filmed, Marion seems to have had a n infatuation with Indy. Indy accepted and watched everything blow up.

And look at how Indy reacts to the college co-ed flashing him that look of love. It scarred him.

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 21, 2023 12:37 PM (ZTAGJ)

231 Started out that way, then got mean and nasty.
Posted by: tubal at March 21, 2023 12:36 PM (PCK5/)


sort of
it started showing how hard it is behind the scenes in a comedians world

I am going assume the last season goes wokety woke and they will ruin the series. Always happens. The last hurrah becomes sick and twisted.

Posted by: artisanal ette at March 21, 2023 12:37 PM (uQPen)

232 222 Posted by: lowandslow at March 21, 2023 12:36 PM (76Foq)

Gavin works for the FBI.

Posted by: sven at March 21, 2023 12:38 PM (Lzpvj)

233 223 Also, only wokesters, not ordinary people, want to see characters that reflect their skin color or sexuality. Some guy opened up a movie theater in the barrio that showed movies dubbed in Spanish. Nobody went. They preferred the English version. So they closed it down.
Posted by: PJ at March 21, 2023 12:36 PM (G1dq6)

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Eh, I think that's a separate issue about the preference of subtitles vs. dubbing. It seems to depend on culture. In Italy, everything was dubbed and I had to go to specific theaters to see any movies in English. In France, everything's subtitled.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 21, 2023 12:38 PM (LvTSG)

234 I always wondered why they didn't make a Spiderwoman. It's conceivable that a female student could have been bit by a radioactive spider as well.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at March 21, 2023 12:36 PM (lf83v)
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Because Spiderwoman or Spidergirl doesn't need to exist.

Sony *did* do this with "Into the Spider-verse," but that was slightly different in that it was a bunch of different forms of Spider Man from parallel realities.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 21, 2023 12:38 PM (t0OGg)

235 @71 But they can never make their own original characters, can they?

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They don't even need to hijack existing characters. Marvel's had a frequently appearing gay hero by the name of Northstar since the '80s that"s bounced between the Canadian hero team (Alpha Flight) and the X-Men. It's not as if this is new. But he never became first tier with the fans. So instead, the writers need to rewrite existing first-tier characters.

Posted by: junior at March 21, 2023 12:38 PM (VMtzf)

236 I always wondered why they didn't make a Spiderwoman. It's conceivable that a female student could have been bit by a radioactive spider as well.

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They did, in the form of Gwen Stacy, who becomes Spiderwoman in another alternative universe.

Which is fine except for the part where I think they made her teh ghey as well.

because any female alternative of a well established character must always be teh gheyz and theyz

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at March 21, 2023 12:38 PM (VTu1l)

237 She mused publicly that the name of the "X-Men" was sexist, and it might be time to rename them something like "The Mutants" or "The X-People."

.. my personal experience with this sort of renaming nonsense is that the marketing department isn't working hard enough when they get distracted with renaming stuff.

Posted by: SMOD at March 21, 2023 12:38 PM (RHGPo)

238 A lot of people are just straight-up boycotting Disney no matter what the alleged merits of their films.

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Boycott doesn't mean "I'm not going to buy the stuff I wasn't going to buy anyway."

The moment they started encouraging the stuff with kids is the moment I wanted to see them crash into the ocean via a sinkhole.

Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 21, 2023 12:39 PM (dGQu9)

239 DiscussingFilm @DiscussingFilm
17h

Victoria Alonso was reportedly singularly responsible for the toxic work environment within Marvel's VFX departments.

She would reportedly give work to teams she liked but "if you have pissed her off in any way, you're going to get frozen out."

Thanks artisinal ette. I added that.

Posted by: ace at March 21, 2023 12:39 PM (BvUNN)

240
I gotta question...

They made a movie about Ant Man.

And expected it to sell huge.

Ant Man.

Are they insane???

What's with the superhero movies all the time. Seems very Commie if you ask me.



Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at March 21, 2023 12:39 PM (UCNv1)

241 >>I always wondered why they didn't make a Spiderwoman.


Where would she shoot her web from?

Posted by: garrett at March 21, 2023 12:39 PM (o1eXi)

242
If we don't represent the people that watch what we make, eventually they'll go elsewhere because somebody else will figure it out.


... and the WNBA softly whispers, "No, they won't ..."

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 21, 2023 12:39 PM (pNxlR)

243 217 Michael Avenatti is getting more pipe right now than Stormy.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at March 21, 2023 1

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hahahahahhh

I LOVE watching the video of all the talking heads telling him he needs to save America and that only he can stop Trump. They were pushing him as a Presidential candidate.

It is to laugh.

Posted by: Seems Legit at March 21, 2023 12:39 PM (DcKNO)

244 I have to say I prefer subtitles. The best dubbing can get for me is "not horribly annoying". It never rises to the level of "good".

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at March 21, 2023 12:40 PM (bW8dp)

245 I remember watching the Incredible Hulk and some other shows in the 70s and 80s, and every episode was a new adventure. You don't have to save the world from the Big Bad every single time. Tell a story instead.

But Hollywood seems to have forgotten how to do that.
Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 21, 2023


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The best episodes of The X-Files were the standalones about odd corners of the universe, not the ones about The Big Overarching Conspiracy.

And I've complained for decades that none of the Batman movies shows Batman as a *detective*, evaluating clues and tracking down criminals that are not supervillains. The Adam West series had puzzles with the Riddler, true, but that was so camp I couldn't watch it then or now. Mostly the films seem to be, Villain makes a move; Batman tries to counter it; rinse and repeat until the colossal final confrontation. Batman is all defensive moves.

I'd like to see Batman set up a Mission: Impossible sting and entrap a criminal.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 21, 2023 12:40 PM (J2vNu)

246 Shit, when it comes to science fiction, some of my favorite characters aren't even human fucking beings.
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So, they need to create Leroy of Harlem. A black superhero who uses his superpowers to pick up all the trash in the streets, tells homeless people to stop pissing and shitting on the sidewalk, convinces mothers to stop pushing their strollers in the middle of the city streets at 2 a.m. and makes black youth go to school to learn.

That would be a helluva superhero.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at March 21, 2023 12:40 PM (lf83v)

247 "That guy fucked himself in the ass with a dildo."

I heard that later, still not outraged, just laughing about.

Posted by: lowandslow at March 21, 2023 12:40 PM (76Foq)

248 My personal favorite is the Sun Spider who is

A lesbian paraplegic, having the same powers as Spider-Man and webs her... wheelchair to her back as she swings around the city....

and her name is Charlotte Webb, because.... Charlotte's Web

Jesus wept

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at March 21, 2023 12:40 PM (VTu1l)

249 >As for Lucas being weird -

Howard the Duck and Lea Thompson.
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 21, 2023 12:34 PM (ZTAGJ)

How many budding furries did that travesty awaken?

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at March 21, 2023 12:40 PM (mGabY)

250
I LOVE watching the video of all the talking heads telling him he needs to save America and that only he can stop Trump. They were pushing him as a Presidential candidate.

It is to laugh.
Posted by: Seems Legit at March 21, 2023 12:39 PM (DcKNO)

But we're supposed to believe them now

Posted by: JoeF. at March 21, 2023 12:40 PM (mR6Gs)

251 garrett's back and talking about... butt dildoes

where have you been?

Posted by: ace at March 21, 2023 12:41 PM (BvUNN)

252 But this is a nice little gift.
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They're called "Easter eggs", ace!

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 21, 2023 12:41 PM (Vwz3I)

253 Interesting how the "woman power" gals are always behind-the-scenes bitches.

Posted by: Seems Legit at March 21, 2023 12:41 PM (DcKNO)

254 Deploy Order 66 !!!

Posted by: Bob Eye-Gore at March 21, 2023 12:41 PM (w9Wax)

255 Bonk bonk on the head

Posted by: Dr. Varno at March 21, 2023 12:41 PM (X+Ku8)

256 If I had to put actual money on the line, my bet is that some scalps will be collected, and the businesses will be reoriented to the exent necessary, but that none of these woke entertainment enterprises will ultimately go down. I think they're like sports: a lot of people want to like these things and they'll go right back to them on slim pretexts.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at March 21, 2023 12:41 PM (ppBhU)

257 Just coorious, who promoted her to second in command at marvel?

Posted by: runner at March 21, 2023 12:41 PM (IetnX)

258 They offered superhero 'LawyerMan' IP to Lumet, but he turned it down. Which is a shame, because nobody directs and casts lawyer characters as well as he does. Biggest gaggle of lawbots he assembled was in "Prince of the City," wonderfully intense and gritty film. Try to find the original theatrical cut, because badly edited versions are too common out there.

Posted by: Knock gp A Kiss at March 21, 2023 12:42 PM (MvF+J)

259 I always wondered why they didn't make a Spiderwoman. It's conceivable that a female student could have been bit by a radioactive spider as well.

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In addition to the muscle density and other variables, it turned out that the XY chromosome pattern protects the bitten. There was another person in the room that day, and the poor lady ended up dying because her body couldn't handle the physiological shock of the small spider biting her.

Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 21, 2023 12:42 PM (dGQu9)

260 Gavin works for the FBI.
Posted by: sven at March 21, 2023 12:38 PM


So you're saying he didn't need to resort to the dildo?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 21, 2023 12:42 PM (Wnv9h)

261 Speaking of subtitles… I tried watching Peaky Blinders for a while.. the dialog was incomprehensible. Series was just meh. The musical bits were execrable.

Posted by: tubal at March 21, 2023 12:42 PM (PCK5/)

262 253 Interesting how the "woman power" gals are always behind-the-scenes bitches.

Posted by: Seems Legit at March 21, 2023 12:41 PM (DcKNO)

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The woman who wrote Fifty Shades of Grey.

Everyone thought her insert character was the female protagonist who won over the dreamy billionaire through her mousiness.

Her insert character was actually the giant asshole guy who emotionally manipulated a college girl into being his submissive.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 21, 2023 12:42 PM (LvTSG)

263
Who among us hasn't crammed a Violator Dialator (TM) butt dildo up their ass as a joke...?

Guys? Back me up here on this guys. We all do this "for the laughs," right?

Posted by: David French at March 21, 2023 12:42 PM (BvUNN)

264 >>where have you been?


Mostly lurking and repairing pinball machines. Mostly.

Posted by: garrett at March 21, 2023 12:42 PM (o1eXi)

265 Namor was supposedly Mayan. Of course Wakanda Forever glorified his ancient culture as peace-loving and enlightened and shat on evil white Conquistadores. But the reverse is true. The Mayans were savage animals.

Yes, they were advanced and good builders and architects. But they were bloodthirsty conquerors and engaged in the sickest and most gruesome tortures, human sacrifices, and cannibalism. D&D demons would be like "these motherfuckers be crazy!"

The Conquistadores were the only thing that brought some semblance of civility to those savages.

Posted by: Elric Blade at March 21, 2023 12:43 PM (iFTx/)

266 Robin Hood is such a fascinating example of Hollywood's inability to tell stories anymore.

Every Hollywood executive thinks that audiences are familiar with Robin Hood culturally, like they all grew up with Errol Flynn's Adventures of Robin Hood, but that movie is damn near 90 years old. The last straight adaptation of Robin Hood was Kevin Costner more than 30 years ago.

And what are every adaptation of Robin Hood now? Twists on something that modern audiences have little experience with the straight version. Ridley Scott's is about Robin not being Robin. The one from a few years ago made him antifa. It's weird.

A straight adaptation of the idea without the modern twists might work reasonably enough at the box office. Not Marvel numbers, but make its money back numbers.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 21, 2023 12:33 PM (LvTSG)

When they Had Robin Hood in the middle East's leading a squad of archers with explosions all around them, I stopped watching.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at March 21, 2023 12:43 PM (dKiJG)

267 260 Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 21, 2023 12:42 PM (Wnv9h)

Some people do their hardest work for free.

Waste of a nice mustache.

Posted by: sven at March 21, 2023 12:43 PM (Lzpvj)

268 251 garrett's back and talking about... butt dildoes

where have you been?
Posted by: ace
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Koo Koo A Choo Mister Ace of Spades

Posted by: Pudinhead at March 21, 2023 12:43 PM (4eKPg)

269 I wish it were just movies, good grief it's everywhere. Every show has some "tough" chick who beats up 240 pound dudes while wearing high heels. And since when does 15% of the population garner 40% of new shows roles.

But it's all good, I have a clicker.

Posted by: dude1394 at March 21, 2023 12:43 PM (3exmE)

270 I mention her race and sexuality because it was believed these were armor that made her unfireable, no matter how poor her performance.

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#DrunkDonLeMon hardest hit.

Posted by: ShainS -- The Abolition of The West is from Men Without Chests at March 21, 2023 12:43 PM (FMQfH)

271 Shit, when it comes to science fiction, some of my favorite characters aren't even human fucking beings.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at March 21, 2023


***
Larry Niven's Speaker-to-Animals, a kzin, and Nessus the puppeteer!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 21, 2023 12:43 PM (J2vNu)

272 >>So you're saying he didn't need to resort to the dildo?


Standard Issue.

Posted by: Christopher Wray at March 21, 2023 12:43 PM (o1eXi)

273 garrett's back and talking about... butt dildoes

where have you been?
Posted by: ace at March 21, 2023 12:41 PM


Day ending in "y"?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 21, 2023 12:43 PM (Wnv9h)

274 OT
35-Year-Old Multi-Year World Cup Medalist Dies Unexpectedly

Angel Fournier Rodriguez, Cuba's most successful rower in history, passed away unexpectedly on Thursday, March 16 in Texas where he had recently moved. He was 35.

The news of his sudden passing was announced by World Rowing, which read, "World Rowing is saddened to hear of the passing of Cuban rower Angel Fournier Rodriguez."


suddenly and unexpectedly and young and healthy
how many athletes have died not in the past year or two? Thousands, and those are only the ones with high enough visibility.

Posted by: artisanal ette at March 21, 2023 12:43 PM (uQPen)

275 "An Extraordinary Change": Labor Data Reveals Shocking Drop In Workplace Attendance Following Vax Campaign

"It’s not a stretch to conclude from this data that the vaccines are causing death, disabilities & injuries due to a degradation of individuals' immune system..."

Posted by: SMOD at March 21, 2023 12:43 PM (RHGPo)

276 > Where would she shoot her web from?
Posted by: garrett at March 21, 2023 12:39 PM (o1eXi)

Spider-Cunt, Spider-Cunt
Always pulling a spider stunt.
Spins a web, from her snizz
Vinegar douche will make it fizz.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at March 21, 2023 12:43 PM (bW8dp)

277 Morning.

Alonso's job was as a visual FX producer. There have been lots of complaints from FX houses that Marvel Studios demands a shit ton of work in a short amount of time and as a result the VFX in Marvel's movies has been...wanting.

I was stuck at a Petro truck stop last year and they were playing Black Widow in the driver's lounge. I couldn't help but notice how amateurish it looked. Like barely a step above made for TV quality.

Anyway, I doubt she was sticking leftist messaging in the films. But it looks like she forgot what her real job was and decided she wanted to focus on left-wing advocacy instead. Took her eye off the ball, the visuals suffered and now she's canned. Too bad. So sad.

Alas, nothing will change. The next few projects will still look terrible and the leftist messaging won't cease because...wait for it...Disney is a leftist company top to bottom.

Fuck 'em.

Posted by: Robert at March 21, 2023 12:43 PM (xgRoj)

278
Where would she shoot her web from?

Posted by: garrett


https://tinyurl.com/UnoWhere

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 21, 2023 12:43 PM (pNxlR)

279 Interesting how the "woman power" gals are always behind-the-scenes bitches.
Posted by: Seems Legit at March 21, 2023 12:41 PM (DcKNO)
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It's because they think that's "strong leadership." Their cosplaying based on little if any actual knowledge of or about leadership. They see good leaders who don't take much if any shit and think all they have to do to be "strong" is be loud and bitchy and mean, while missing the point entirely.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 21, 2023 12:43 PM (t0OGg)

280
Slightly OT:

Watched Cocaine Bear via teh torrents over the weekend. Gah. How in the HELL could you take a badass concept like that and turn it into a boring chick-flick?

Oh yeah, you put a wokeish chick in the director's chair.

So many missed opportunities, like having the actor who played Clay Davis in The Wire in your film, and you DON'T have him say "sheeeeeeeeiiiiiittt" at least once.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 21, 2023 12:43 PM (n+4am)

281 She mused publicly that the name of the "X-Men" was sexist, and it might be time to rename them something like "The Mutants" or "The X-People."

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XX-Men FTW!

Posted by: ShainS -- The Abolition of The West is from Men Without Chests at March 21, 2023 12:44 PM (FMQfH)

282 . the dialog was incomprehensible. Series was just meh. The musical bits were execrable.
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Point of Order: You cannot attack dialog as incomprehensible and then use the word "execrable."

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at March 21, 2023 12:44 PM (lf83v)

283 Great to see Alonso get shitcanned, but I'm sure she exited with tens of millions in her pocket and god knows what kind of golden parachute. She was extravagantly well-paid despite losing hundreds of millions for her employer. Nice work if you can find it.

Posted by: Elric Blade at March 21, 2023 12:44 PM (iFTx/)

284 I have zero interest in movies in general. Just not in the marketplace. I have even less interest in superhero movies. Last superhero movie I saw, Superman's legs still worked.

Nonetheless, it is nice to see a woke Commie dyke bitch get shitcanned.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 21, 2023 12:44 PM (tkR6S)

285 Koo Koo A Choo Mister Ace of Spades
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 21, 2023 12:43 PM


Bless you, Mrs. Robinson....

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 21, 2023 12:44 PM (Wnv9h)

286 The best Spider-Man was the cartoon from the late 60s-early 70s.

“Spider-Man, Spider-Man,
Does whatever a spider can…”

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at March 21, 2023 12:44 PM (ohFNB)

287 > Larry Niven's Speaker-to-Animals, a kzin, and Nessus the puppeteer!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 21, 2023 12:43 PM (J2vNu)

Excellent examples. Mike the computer from The Moon is a Harsh Mistress also comes to mind.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at March 21, 2023 12:44 PM (bW8dp)

288 276 LOL

Posted by: Knock gp A Kiss at March 21, 2023 12:44 PM (MvF+J)

289 I actually dont know if the theater used dubbing or subtitles. The point is that none of the barrio people cared. Only the intellectuals at the nearby college did.

Also, I honestly want to know, do gay people enjoy straight rom-coms, or do they prefer gay story lines.

Posted by: PJ at March 21, 2023 12:45 PM (G1dq6)

290 >Yes, they were advanced and good builders and architects. But they were bloodthirsty conquerors and engaged in the sickest and most gruesome tortures, human sacrifices, and cannibalism. D&D demons would be like "these motherfuckers be crazy!"

The Conquistadores were the only thing that brought some semblance of civility to those savages.

Posted by: Elric Blade at March 21, 2023 12:43 PM (iFTx/)

The Aztecs have entered the chat.

Posted by: Heavy Meta at March 21, 2023 12:45 PM (NgqoH)

291 With killer IP like Ant-Man, how could it flop? SFX must have been sub-par. Today's audiences are philistines.

The first Ant-Man was decent, in part because everyone loves Paul Rudd. The sequels had the typical Hollywood AWFL move of "name the movie for a well-liked male character and then give all the screen time to lesbians".

Posted by: Ian S. at March 21, 2023 12:45 PM (ZGrMX)

292 "Victoria Alonso -- Marvel's 2nd In Command, and Woke Lesbian Hispanic "

This explains why they wanted to rename the character "Ass Man". I shudder to think what his superpower might be.

Posted by: Marcus T at March 21, 2023 12:45 PM (x7plP)

293 Gavin works for the FBI.
Posted by: sven at March 21, 2023 12:38 PM (Lzpvj)

I never trusted that guy, based on his appearance--and the fag name of the group "Proud Boys."

Posted by: JoeF. at March 21, 2023 12:45 PM (mR6Gs)

294 @226 I always wondered why they didn't make a Spiderwoman. It's conceivable that a female student could have been bit by a radioactive spider as well.

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They have. The original Spider-Woman had little to do with spider powers (she did have her own cartoon), and instead could fly and shoot energy from her hands. There was a later one that could create webs but nothing else. There have been a couple of others I'm not familiar with.

More recently, we were told that one of Peter's classmates was also bitten by the spider. Her family stuck her in a vault for backstory reasons, and she emerged several (real world) years ago. She's got the same powers as Peter, and goes by "Silk". At the same time and as part of the same Spider-Man super storyline, we were introduced to a number of alternate universe Spider-Man counterparts, including a Gwen Stacy who got the powers instead of Peter. She's been reasonably popular (unlike Silk), and was finally given the name "Ghost Spider", based on her outfit. She showed up in the animated Into the Spider-verse movie.

Posted by: junior at March 21, 2023 12:46 PM (VMtzf)

295 Maybe Spiderwoman would have had a problem fighting criminals because every 28 days she had to purge her bulging egg sac.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at March 21, 2023 12:46 PM (lf83v)

296 The woman who gave us Cocaine Bear has been green-lit to give us an 'updated for modern audiences' sequel to the Flintstones called Bedrock with Pebbles as the main character.

I have a really bad feeling about this.

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 21, 2023 12:46 PM (ZTAGJ)

297 > She mused publicly that the name of the "X-Men" was sexist

Tell her that X-Men is another word for tranny.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at March 21, 2023 12:46 PM (bW8dp)

298 A consistently outspoken champion of diversity in entertainment...

Another instance of Alonso's outspokenness on issues of diversity and inclusion...


Here's another word that's been repeated to the point of meaninglessness. Everyone surrounding her is LGBQWERTY++, LGBQWERTY++-adjacent, or is *pretending* to be lest he or she be "outed" and destroyed as a "*phobe." There would be no reason for her to fear reprisal over saying anything she'd be inclined to say. She's being escorted out because she's ultimately a major financial drain rather than for being "outspoken."

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at March 21, 2023 12:46 PM (DTX3h)

299 Disney white characters policy explained:

https://tinyurl.com/y2bwb7bx

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 21, 2023 12:46 PM (Vwz3I)

300 Shit, when it comes to science fiction, some of my favorite characters aren't even human fucking beings.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at March 21, 2023

***
Larry Niven's Speaker-to-Animals, a kzin, and Nessus the puppeteer!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 21, 2023 12:43 PM (J2vNu)
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I immediately thought of Shriek, an eight-foot tall spider who throws poisoned spines, weaves incredibly strong webs, and is a maternal figure to many other main characters. She's from an obscure series coordinated by Philip Jose Farmer.

Alan Dean Foster's foul-mouthed otter Mudge from the Spellsinger series is also an awesome non-human character.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 21, 2023 12:46 PM (YIVH2)

301 The first Ant-Man was decent, in part because everyone loves Paul Rudd. The sequels had the typical Hollywood AWFL move of "name the movie for a well-liked male character and then give all the screen time to lesbians".

Only pr0n can make that forumla work.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at March 21, 2023 12:47 PM (ppBhU)

302 251 garrett's back and talking about... butt dildoes
where have you been?
Posted by: ace

Snuffing out goldfish.

Posted by: Hypnogogic Jerk at March 21, 2023 12:47 PM (hCW0c)

303 296 The woman who gave us Cocaine Bear has been green-lit to give us an 'updated for modern audiences' sequel to the Flintstones called Bedrock with Pebbles as the main character.

I have a really bad feeling about this.
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 21, 2023 12:46 PM (ZTAGJ)

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Elizabeth Banks' highest professional moment was when she played a drunk chick banging Set Rogan in The 40 Year Old Virgin.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 21, 2023 12:47 PM (LvTSG)

304 I always wondered why they didn't make a Spiderwoman.

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Speaking of, there's a really clever guy who made some comic book shows using old cartoon footage about this sort of thing.

Robin Wants a Gun

https://youtu.be/1cLPFcsnoSU

(he meets Batgirl and questions some things in this episode, too)

Very NSFW

Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 21, 2023 12:47 PM (dGQu9)

305 > I never trusted that guy, based on his appearance

No heterosexual man spends that much time grooming his beard.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at March 21, 2023 12:47 PM (bW8dp)

306 In other news I just ordered a shit ton of quality films from the Criterion flash sale.

Time Bandits, The Red Shoes, Good Morning, Ikiru, Citizen Kane, Romeo & Juliet, The Night Of The Hunter, The Makioka Sisters, The Ministry Of Fear.

Gonna have some movies to watch.

Posted by: Robert at March 21, 2023 12:47 PM (xgRoj)

307 "It’s not a stretch to conclude from this data that the vaccines are causing death, disabilities & injuries due to a degradation of individuals' immune system..."
Posted by: SMOD at March 21, 2023 12:43 PM (RHGPo)
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That is a stretch. Not that it causes harm, but that the harm is specifically immunity. That has not been established yet.

But I saw this with my own eyes during 2021. People would get the vax and miss a day or two because they got sick from it. Maybe half the people who got the shot missed a day or two of work. The real problem looked to be the boosters. When people got the booster shots, more than half of them missed at least one day of work. At least a quarter of them missed a week or more of work.

The first shots had some side effects and made some people sick. The boosters were way worse in terms of proportion affected and significance of the side effects. This is all anecdotal and just what I saw.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 21, 2023 12:47 PM (t0OGg)

308 How dare you implement something we approved of! In the 18 years we have kept you on and promoted you, your decisions have cost us countless hundreds of millions of dollars.

Shame on you!

Posted by: The Board and CEO at March 21, 2023 12:47 PM (dNNCD)

309 I thought the whole thing with The Little Mermaid was a bit fishy.

Posted by: Marcus T at March 21, 2023 12:47 PM (x7plP)

310
Flintstones as black transgendereds?

I'm ready for that!

Posted by: Auspex at March 21, 2023 12:48 PM (QarLh)

311 Yeah, except it's *fake* girl stuff. It isn't real in the slightest. Little girls beating up he-men and being naturally smart, likable, powerful, strong Mary Sue characters is freaking *boring.* It's dumb, fake shit that nobody likes.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 21, 2023 12:30 PM (t0OGg)

You don't understand. That's them rubbing our noses in it.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at March 21, 2023 12:48 PM (pohLc)

312 ... Kennedy will be given a "Viking funeral," celebrating her for all her huge successes.

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So much white, barbarian patriarchy in that sentence, that I can't even!

Posted by: ShainS -- The Abolition of The West is from Men Without Chests at March 21, 2023 12:48 PM (FMQfH)

313 "sequel to the Flintstones called Bedrock with Pebbles"

For the disappearing boomer generation who barely remember the Flintstones, I guess.

Posted by: Knock gp A Kiss at March 21, 2023 12:48 PM (MvF+J)

314 It is not possible to overstate the importance of comic books, and movies based on comic books, showing the world as it is.

Posted by: Oglebay at March 21, 2023 12:48 PM (wscPk)

315 293 Posted by: JoeF. at March 21, 2023 12:45 PM (mR6Gs)

Jan 6th was hilarious. All of the "dissenters" were either from inception or over time made defacto DOJ directed flytraps. Some of us had figured it out by the middle of the "summer of love" where DOJ made it plain Antifa and BLM were above the law.

Posted by: sven at March 21, 2023 12:48 PM (Lzpvj)

316 306 In other news I just ordered a shit ton of quality films from the Criterion flash sale.

Time Bandits, The Red Shoes, Good Morning, Ikiru, Citizen Kane, Romeo & Juliet, The Night Of The Hunter, The Makioka Sisters, The Ministry Of Fear.

Gonna have some movies to watch.
Posted by: Robert at March 21, 2023 12:47 PM (xgRoj)

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I went with The Lodger, The Man Who Knew Too Much, Le Corbeau, The Asphalt Jungle, Only Angels Have Wings, and Brief Encounter.

I thought about The Night of the Hunter, but Kino is releasing a 4K of it later this year. I'll get that instead.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 21, 2023 12:48 PM (LvTSG)

317 Larry Niven's Speaker-to-Animals, a kzin, and Nessus the puppeteer!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 21, 2023
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Excellent examples. Mike the computer from The Moon is a Harsh Mistress also comes to mind.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at March 21, 2023


***
The Motie Mediators from The Mote in God's Eye! We saw other Motie castes, true, but only the Mediators (whose job was communication) were shown in detail.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 21, 2023 12:49 PM (J2vNu)

318 I, for one, would enjoy a origin film on Mister Mxyzptlk.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 21, 2023 12:10 PM (yQpMk)

He was born on a failed Welsh vowel farm.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 21, 2023 12:49 PM (tkR6S)

319 Kennedy will be given a "Viking funeral," celebrating her for all her huge successes.

If it means she's being sent out to sea in a burning boat, I'm all in for that.

Posted by: Brother Tim, still the worst commenter on the blog at March 21, 2023 12:49 PM (OUMaO)

320 The woman who gave us Cocaine Bear has been green-lit to give us an 'updated for modern audiences' sequel to the Flintstones called Bedrock with Pebbles as the main character.

Pebbles being the main character already tells us where this is going. Pebbles will be a black lesbian and retconned to be Wilma's kid with the milkman or something.

Posted by: Ian S. at March 21, 2023 12:49 PM (ZGrMX)

321 306 Every public library stocks Criterion. Why buy it?

Posted by: Knock gp A Kiss at March 21, 2023 12:50 PM (MvF+J)

322 The woman who gave us Cocaine Bear has been green-lit to give us an 'updated for modern audiences' sequel to the Flintstones called Bedrock with Pebbles as the main character.

I have a really bad feeling about this.
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 21, 2023 12:46 PM (ZTAGJ)
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They're plumbing the depths now, for sure. When you're going after Scooby Doo and the Flinstones, you're out of ideas.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 21, 2023 12:50 PM (t0OGg)

323 Several years ago, I went to a talk on comic books, and at the end they handed out some free samples. One of the books was called "Arania" (I think) and it was about a female version of spider-man.

So the idea has been tried, it just hasn't caught on.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 21, 2023 12:50 PM (p+1gI)

324 I've always liked the character Scott Lang. I think his origin had enough angles to warrant his own book.

I've always liked Cassie Lang, both as a child and a teenager. Her codename Stature, however, is/was terrible.

I had no interest in seeing Quantumania or any of the latest MCU projects.

All because of "woke." Talk about wasted opportunities.

I don't think there's any way back for Marvel.

Posted by: Weak Geek at March 21, 2023 12:50 PM (FWz4U)

325 320 Pebbles being the main character already tells us where this is going. Pebbles will be a black lesbian and retconned to be Wilma's kid with the milkman or something.
Posted by: Ian S. at March 21, 2023 12:49 PM (ZGrMX)

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Pebbles will still be white, but she will have a sassy black, lesbian best friend.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 21, 2023 12:50 PM (LvTSG)

326 Flintstones as black transgendereds?

I'm ready for that!

Posted by: Auspex at March 21, 2023 12:48 PM (QarLh)

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Out: Flintmobiles.
In: Pimpmobiles.

"Low-Ridin' Pimpmobiles are tight!"

Posted by: ShainS -- The Abolition of The West is from Men Without Chests at March 21, 2023 12:51 PM (FMQfH)

327 > For the disappearing boomer generation who barely remember the Flintstones, I guess.

Considering that they've reportedly made a Scooby Doo movie that doesn't even have Scooby Doo in it...

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at March 21, 2023 12:51 PM (bW8dp)

328 Flintstones as black transgendereds?

I'm ready for that!
Posted by: Auspex at March 21, 2023


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I'll admit that the movie remake of The Honeymooners looked like it might actually be funny. I don't know if it was.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 21, 2023 12:51 PM (J2vNu)

329 Yabba dabba do me.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at March 21, 2023 12:51 PM (lf83v)

330 321 306 Every public library stocks Criterion. Why buy it?
Posted by: Knock gp A Kiss at March 21, 2023 12:50 PM (MvF+J)

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Mostly just DVDs. Also, I like actually owning my collection. I'm not reliant on other people for holding onto my favorites.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 21, 2023 12:51 PM (LvTSG)

331 The first shots had some side effects and made some people sick. The boosters were way worse in terms of proportion affected and significance of the side effects. This is all anecdotal and just what I saw.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 21, 2023 12:47 PM (t0OGg)

Anecdotal! Unscientific! Fabrication! You're just a conspiracy theorist, crackpot, and a crank! Stop paying attention to what you see and believe in SCIENCE™!

Posted by: Dr. Fauci and his AOS acolyte at March 21, 2023 12:51 PM (La8Fd)

332 Would a faithful adaptation of The Flintstones be better?

Part of ther problem is that the dullards in charge don't seem to have a clue as to what IPs should be mined.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at March 21, 2023 12:51 PM (ppBhU)

333
"Alonso's outspokenness on issues of diversity and inclusion..."

What? That's not stunning and brave anymore?

I see you pouncing and seizing here..

Posted by: Auspex at March 21, 2023 12:51 PM (QarLh)

334 No heterosexual man spends that much time grooming his beard.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at March 21, 2023 12:47 PM (bW8dp)

hetros don't have beards

Posted by: REDACTED at March 21, 2023 12:51 PM (us2H3)

335
Elizabeth Banks' highest professional moment was when she played a drunk chick banging Set Rogan in The 40 Year Old Virgin.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch



She was okay in Slither as Nathan Fillion's high school crush. Otherwise...

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 21, 2023 12:51 PM (n+4am)

336 I'm thinking somewhere in our future is a remake of Mister Ed. He'll come back as a filly named Xe Edna.

Posted by: Marcus T at March 21, 2023 12:51 PM (x7plP)

337 323 Several years ago, I went to a talk on comic books, and at the end they handed out some free samples. One of the books was called "Arania" (I think) and it was about a female version of spider-man.

So the idea has been tried, it just hasn't caught on.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 21, 2023 12:50 PM (p+1gI)

Spider-Gwen is the most popular of the Spider women, moreso than even Spider-Woman.

Posted by: Nova Local at March 21, 2023 12:52 PM (exHjb)

338 Time Bandits, The Red Shoes, Good Morning, Ikiru, Citizen Kane, Romeo & Juliet, The Night Of The Hunter, The Makioka Sisters, The Ministry Of Fear.

Gonna have some movies to watch.
Posted by: Robert at March 21, 2023 12:47 PM (xgRoj)

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Start designing a hand crank for your DVD player so you can watch during the burning times.

Posted by: Seems Legit at March 21, 2023 12:52 PM (DcKNO)

339 Part of ther problem is that the dullards in charge don't seem to have a clue as to what IPs should be mined.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at March 21, 2023 12:51 PM (ppBhU)
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I disagree. The problem is that they're running out of IPs to mine. They've taken most of the good ones and driven them into the turf. They now have to expand their reach and go after increasingly marginal titles.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 21, 2023 12:52 PM (t0OGg)

340 They're plumbing the depths now, for sure. When you're going after Scooby Doo and the Flinstones, you're out of ideas.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 21, 2023 12:50 PM (t0OGg)

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"Here, hold my Sake." -- JJ Abrams "Speed Racer" reboot

Posted by: ShainS -- The Abolition of The West is from Men Without Chests at March 21, 2023 12:53 PM (FMQfH)

341 PS - I have not seen Ant Man, but I'll be the woman at Shazam 2 and Mario...I watch so you don't have to (and I can let you all know if it's worth watching).

I knew Ant Man wasn't worth watching...

Posted by: Nova Local at March 21, 2023 12:53 PM (exHjb)

342 >>No heterosexual man spends that much time grooming his beard.


Not even if she wore a Muzzle.

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at March 21, 2023 12:53 PM (o1eXi)

343 277 Morning.

Alonso's job was as a visual FX producer. There have been lots of complaints from FX houses that Marvel Studios demands a shit ton of work in a short amount of time and as a result the VFX in Marvel's movies has been...wanting.

I was stuck at a Petro truck stop last year and they were playing Black Widow in the driver's lounge. I couldn't help but notice how amateurish it looked. Like barely a step above made for TV quality.

Anyway, I doubt she was sticking leftist messaging in the films. But it looks like she forgot what her real job was and decided she wanted to focus on left-wing advocacy instead. Took her eye off the ball, the visuals suffered and now she's canned. Too bad. So sad.

Alas, nothing will change. The next few projects will still look terrible and the leftist messaging won't cease because...wait for it...Disney is a leftist company top to bottom.

Fuck 'em.
Posted by: Robert at March 21, 2023 12:43 PM (xgRoj)

Just wait for the Little Mermaid, it looks like crap, can't do the Underwater scenes right and didn't hire a Actress that could swim and the Gingercide continues.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at March 21, 2023 12:53 PM (wje8c)

344 One IP that will never be resurrected - those Dean Martin spy movies.

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 21, 2023 12:53 PM (ZTAGJ)

345 334 No heterosexual man spends that much time grooming his beard.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at March 21, 2023 12:47 PM (bW8dp)

hetros don't have beards
Posted by: REDACTED at March 21, 2023 12:51 PM (us2H3)


Okay, you work for Barbasol, right???

Posted by: tubal at March 21, 2023 12:53 PM (PCK5/)

346 339 I disagree. The problem is that they're running out of IPs to mine. They've taken most of the good ones and driven them into the turf. They now have to expand their reach and go after increasingly marginal titles.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 21, 2023 12:52 PM (t0OGg)

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I'm looking forward to the Welcome Back Kotter reboot.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 21, 2023 12:53 PM (LvTSG)

347 Rather than being a boss at the quarry, Mr. Slate will be a pimp to Betty and Wilma.

And for buttplugs, they will use epileptic baby triceratops.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at March 21, 2023 12:53 PM (lf83v)

348 how is half a billion a flop

Posted by: DB - questioning the thing at March 21, 2023 12:53 PM (geLO8)

349 348 how is half a billion a flop
Posted by: DB - questioning the thing at March 21, 2023 12:53 PM (geLO

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When it cost half a billion to make and market and theaters take 60% of ticket sales.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 21, 2023 12:54 PM (LvTSG)

350 343 Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at March 21, 2023 12:53 PM (wje8c)

"I can't swim!"

//Martin Short

So many jokes from my youth have been rendered real.

Posted by: sven at March 21, 2023 12:54 PM (Lzpvj)

351 The University of Helsinki confirmed this anew on Monday by announcing that it was giving climate hysteric Greta Thunberg an honorary doctorate…in theology.

Well. Now that sorta puts things in perspective.

Posted by: SMOD at March 21, 2023 12:54 PM (RHGPo)

352 >>how is half a billion a flop


You have a future selling Watermelons!

Posted by: Polish Watermelon Salesman at March 21, 2023 12:54 PM (o1eXi)

353 I'm looking forward to the Welcome Back Kotter reboot.

**************

Charles in Charge reboot to: They in Charge

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at March 21, 2023 12:55 PM (VTu1l)

354 One IP that will never be resurrected - those Dean Martin spy movies.
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 21, 2023


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Thank God. As kitsch and eye candy they're occasionally funny. As "adaptations" of the hardboiled Donald Hamilton spy novels, they're completely out to lunch.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 21, 2023 12:55 PM (J2vNu)

355 I'm looking forward to the Welcome Back Kotter reboot.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 21, 2023 12:53 PM (LvTSG)

Not me. I wanted to machine gun the whole cast.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at March 21, 2023 12:55 PM (pohLc)

356 I'm looking forward to the Welcome Back Kotter reboot.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 21, 2023 12:53 PM (LvTSG)
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Race-swapped, I'm sure. The black schoolteacher shows in a white-majority suburban school teaches his students about their inborn racism, and they love him for it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 21, 2023 12:55 PM (t0OGg)

357
hmmmm

yeah

Posted by: John Fetterman at March 21, 2023 12:55 PM (vwCZJ)

358 348 how is half a billion a flop
___________

Right?

Posted by: Silicon Valley Bank at March 21, 2023 12:55 PM (lf83v)

359 hetros don't have beards
Posted by: REDACTED at March 21, 2023 12:51 PM (us2H3)


Okay, you work for Barbasol, right???
Posted by: tubal at March 21, 2023 12:53 PM (PCK5/)

he sure does !!

Posted by: the shaved kitty at March 21, 2023 12:55 PM (us2H3)

360 348 Posted by: DB - questioning the thing at March 21, 2023 12:53 PM (geLO

Great news DB I sold a pizza for 10 bucks....

not so great news DB my food costs on it were 15!

//Whore E Wood

Posted by: sven at March 21, 2023 12:55 PM (Lzpvj)

361 318 I, for one, would enjoy a origin film on Mister Mxyzptlk.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 21, 2023 12:10 PM (yQpMk)

Oh hell no. I would experience genuine anger every time that little bastard showed up on Superfriends. Fuck that guy.

Posted by: He RUINED Saturday at March 21, 2023 12:55 PM (La8Fd)

362 how is half a billion a flop
Posted by: DB - questioning the thing


When you spend $250 mill on production and another $250 on advertising.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 21, 2023 12:55 PM (jzzG8)

363
All his weirdness aside, I always defended McInnes because Big Tech knifed him in the back. One of the earlier (and stranger) full-spectrum cancellations of a right-wing media guy.

But if he's a stoolie for the Fed cops, then he can buttfuck himself with a dildo made from a pineapple and barbed wire. Working with them, no matter what, is an unforgivable sin, especially for someone like him, who says he believes in G-d.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 21, 2023 12:55 PM (uiDMf)

364 348 how is half a billion a flop
Posted by: DB - questioning the thing at March 21, 2023 12:53 PM (geLO

A. B/c it's gonna peter out slightly below half a billion
B. B/c it's production budget was over $200M...and then they marketed it
C. B/c this was supposed to be the huge big bad kick off...and if you can't beat Ant Man 1 WW when you have the Phase 5 Big Bad, what does that say The Marvels will do later this year? It's a HUGE diminishing returns problem they are having...

Posted by: Nova Local at March 21, 2023 12:55 PM (exHjb)

365 Bring back White Shadow

Posted by: garrett at March 21, 2023 12:56 PM (o1eXi)

366 I think Shaft was done before everything went woke, but has anyone rebooted any black movies?

Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 21, 2023 12:56 PM (dGQu9)

367 Faculty of Theology to confer eight honorary doctorates on 9 June 2023

Riho Altnurme, Professor of Church History, Vice-Dean for Research, Faculty of Arts and Humanities, University of Tartu

Maria Immonen, MA, Director of the Department of World Service, Lutheran World Federation (LWF)

Mia Lövheim, Professor of the Sociology of Religion, Uppsala University

Greta Thunberg, activist

Munib Younan, Bishop Emeritus, Evangelical Lutheran Church in Jordan and the Holy Land, Former President of The Lutheran World Federation

Annabel Brett, Professor, Co-director of Cambridge Centre for Political Thought, University of Cambridge

Grace Davie, Professor Emeritus of Sociology, University of Exeter

Philip Esler, Professor, Portland Chair in New Testament Studies, University of Gloucestershire

Posted by: SMOD at March 21, 2023 12:56 PM (RHGPo)

368 Yabba dabba do me.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at March 21, 2023 12:51 PM (lf83v)

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Heh. Flintstones crossover with The Rocky & Bullwinkle Show:

Dudley Do-Me-Right.

Posted by: ShainS -- The Abolition of The West is from Men Without Chests at March 21, 2023 12:56 PM (FMQfH)

369 355 Posted by: Xipe Totec at March 21, 2023 12:55 PM (pohLc)

Part of me died when Gabe Kaplan beat Robert Conrad on battle between the stars.

Posted by: sven at March 21, 2023 12:56 PM (Lzpvj)

370 A disturbance in the force tells me that one of the Ghost of Endor's wingman has finally succumbed to a lifetime of hookers and blow.

He went out like a warrior, and so I crack a 40 in his honor.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at March 21, 2023 12:56 PM (Jg7EG)

371 Gwen Stacey or Mary Jane Watson?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at March 21, 2023 12:56 PM (ohFNB)

372 Ringling Bros. Barnum & Bailey Circus announced its return for the first time since 2017, when organizers shut down due to lagging ticket sales. The reimagined experience puts the focus on entertainers and scraps the animal acts that came under fire and led to costly litigation and protests.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 21, 2023 12:22 PM (63Dwl)

No heffalumps, no circus.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 21, 2023 12:56 PM (tkR6S)

373 It's definitely possible to make movies for multiple audiences. Take The Emperor's New Groove or any of the better Disney animations. Well done, they're fun to watch as adults, so you bring your kids to the movie and there will be nice little moment for you. I applied the villain lady's "scary beyond all reason" to Hillary and still laugh at the hugely pregnant character trying to pick something up off the floor.

The problem, if I may say so, with feminists is that they live in a fantasy narrative about the Patriarchy. So when they address that in a movie, to "represent" women, only feminists who live in that narrative like it. For everyone else it misses. If the "woke" represent different races or disabilities, they'll do it through that woke lens and for everyone else it will miss.

It's very possible to give women something they'll like in a super hero adventure show. Like, oh, shirtless Chris. Any Chris. All the Chrises. Shirtless. Just as it's possible to "represent" diversity without kicking white men in the teeth. It just takes not living in a fantasy reality that audiences won't recognize.

Posted by: Synova at March 21, 2023 12:56 PM (BD/yx)

374 356 Race-swapped, I'm sure. The black schoolteacher shows in a white-majority suburban school teaches his students about their inborn racism, and they love him for it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 21, 2023 12:55 PM (t0OGg)

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"Can you do it for $150 million? Oh...who am I kidding. I'm feeling randy. Here's a check for $200 million right now."

Also, this reminds me that Nancy Meyers is getting $150 million from Warner Brothers to make a romantic comedy. Netflix wouldn't give her more than $130, so she bailed.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 21, 2023 12:56 PM (LvTSG)

375 Some good news then.

I blame Victoria for the shit show that Avengers: Endgame turned into. I might even be right to do so.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 21, 2023 12:57 PM (lEVn+)

376 Damn, I missed it upthread, McInnes worked with the Feds????

Posted by: Seems Legit at March 21, 2023 12:57 PM (DcKNO)

377 Also, box office $ != gross.

The 1st 2 weeks the studio get 75%~, even less overseas. The government of China takes something like 20% of that in China.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 21, 2023 12:57 PM (jzzG8)

378 a) Duke is such a wokefest and ESPECIALLY their "divinity school

b) I was a comic geek girl BUT I read Love and Rockets and Vertigo and maybe some Image. I wasn't getting normal superhero comix unless it was Watchmen or something

Posted by: BlackOrchid at March 21, 2023 12:58 PM (w0NJk)

379 Gavin McInnes has always struck me as being very impressed with his own wit and cleverness. He's the blowhard at the bar who talks loudly and won't shut up.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at March 21, 2023 12:58 PM (ppBhU)

380 375 Some good news then.

I blame Victoria for the shit show that Avengers: Endgame turned into. I might even be right to do so.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 21, 2023 12:57 PM (lEVn+)

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Wait...you think that the agenda driven VFX producer inserted the shot of all the women in one hero shot even though none of the actresses were on the same stage together?

I shan't believe it!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 21, 2023 12:58 PM (LvTSG)

381 this is why I'm not in the movie business

I'll stick to tubas- it's what I know

Posted by: DB - questioning the thing at March 21, 2023 12:58 PM (geLO8)

382 Faculty of Theology to confer eight honorary doctorates on 9 June 2023
... Greta Thunberg, activist ...
Posted by: SMOD at March 21, 2023 12:56 PM (RHGPo)
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Well, she has done a lot for the Church of Climate Activism.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 21, 2023 12:58 PM (t0OGg)

383 I have no idea what a Marvel is

nor do I desire to

Posted by: REDACTED at March 21, 2023 12:58 PM (us2H3)

384 Oh hell no. I would experience genuine anger every time that little bastard showed up on Superfriends. Fuck that guy.
Posted by: He RUINED Saturday at March 21, 2023


***
I don't know about TV adaptations, but in the Silver Age comics the deal was that Superman had to get him to say his own name *backwards* to banish him back to the dimension he came from. (Fifth dimension? He was the wrong color to sing with Marilyn McCoo and Billy Davis Jr.) It must have been a heck of a challenge to write those stories.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 21, 2023 12:58 PM (J2vNu)

385 And note that, despite being a flop -- Ant-Man 3 still outgrossed Black Widow, Shang-Chi, and The Eternals.

--
Ticket inflation, Ace. Matinee tickets used to be $7.50 pre-covid. They're now $12.50. Prime time tickets were $12, they're now $18-22. That means that, at the same revenue number, a third fewer people butts are getting into seats to see these films.

Posted by: Kevin in ABQ at March 21, 2023 12:59 PM (Btu+d)

386 Redo the Brady Bunch as a black family.

"Here's the story, of man named Brady,
Who went out for Newports and never came back."

The end.

*roll credits*

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at March 21, 2023 12:59 PM (lf83v)

387 The black schoolteacher shows in a white-majority suburban school teaches his students about their inborn racism, and they love him for it.

Once upon a time, there would have been a very funny movie in the idea of a black teacher showing up and saving affluent white school children.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at March 21, 2023 12:59 PM (ppBhU)

388 382 Faculty of Theology to confer eight honorary doctorates on 9 June 2023
... Greta Thunberg, activist ...
Posted by: SMOD at March 21, 2023 12:56 PM (RHGPo)
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Well, she has done a lot for the CULT of Climate Activism.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 21, 2023 12:58 PM (t0OGg)

____________________

FIFY

Posted by: Elric Blade at March 21, 2023 12:59 PM (iFTx/)

389 Why won't someone ask this sensitive lgbtqwerty Alonso character if constantly kicking men in the dick and sexualizing them for the female gaze constitutes sexual violence on her part against the hetero sexual male characters...... or will she just return them into gay characters.

INCLUSIVITY MUCH?

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at March 21, 2023 01:00 PM (0Qrr3)

390 387 Once upon a time, there would have been a very funny movie in the idea of a black teacher showing up and saving affluent white school children.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at March 21, 2023 12:59 PM (ppBhU)

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I think Key and Peele completely mined that premise in about 4 minutes with the substitute teacher bit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQaLic5SE_I

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 21, 2023 01:00 PM (LvTSG)

391 344 One IP that will never be resurrected - those Dean Martin spy movies.
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 21, 2023 12:53 PM (ZTAGJ)

When he's driving and he hits a button and a Mini bar appears I LOL so hard at that.

Anna have you watched the AKIBA MAID war, I find good and funny, especially when I realized it's really about the Yakuza as maids.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at March 21, 2023 01:01 PM (wje8c)

392 Part of me died when Gabe Kaplan beat Robert Conrad on battle between the stars.
Posted by: sven at March 21, 2023


***
Really? You don't mean *William* Conrad?

Oh, well. Bob Conrad took Jan Smithers home that night and they both enjoyed themselves.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 21, 2023 01:01 PM (J2vNu)

393 Hey, they could try and make a new Remo Williams movie...

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 21, 2023 01:01 PM (5+0fa)

394 OT: So we're, what, halfway through the business day on the East Coast and Trump hasn't been arrested yet?

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at March 21, 2023 01:01 PM (bW8dp)

395 306 In other news I just ordered a shit ton of quality films from the Criterion flash sale.

Time Bandits, The Red Shoes, Good Morning, Ikiru, Citizen Kane, Romeo & Juliet, The Night Of The Hunter, The Makioka Sisters, The Ministry Of Fear.

Gonna have some movies to watch.
Posted by: Robert at March 21, 2023 12:47 PM (xgRoj)


I notice a glaring absence of "Salo" in that list. A simple oversight, I'm sure...

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at March 21, 2023 01:02 PM (DTX3h)

396 Opinion:

Marvel peaked at the second Captain America film: Winter Soldier.

Still their best film to date.

Posted by: Max Power at March 21, 2023 01:02 PM (Hucnr)

397 are only the ones with high enough visibility.
Posted by: artisanal ette

*******

I'm curious what qualifies as "high enough visibility", because I myself wouldn't consider the Cuban rowing team to be a sport with a big fan base or viewership.

Posted by: Muldoon at March 21, 2023 01:03 PM (ykeLU)

398 395 I notice a glaring absence of "Salo" in that list. A simple oversight, I'm sure...
Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at March 21, 2023 01:02 PM (DTX3h)

=========

They are releasing a big Pasolini box set in June including 9 of his 12 films. I honestly don't know why it won't include Salo, but it won't. They have the rights, so I guess they're saving it for some individual 4K release with, I assume, a new restoration.

My mother texted me the day it was announced and asked me if I wanted it for my birthday. I said I wouldn't say no.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 21, 2023 01:03 PM (LvTSG)

399 > OT: So we're, what, halfway through the business day on the East Coast and Trump hasn't been arrested yet?

Twatter communists hardest hit.

Makes me regret I'm on a 7 day ban, and thus can't do any gloating in their faces.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at March 21, 2023 01:03 PM (bW8dp)

400
Once upon a time, there would have been a very funny movie in the idea of a black teacher showing up and saving affluent white school children.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at March 21, 2023 12:59 PM (ppBhU)

It HAD to have been done already

Posted by: JoeF. at March 21, 2023 01:04 PM (mR6Gs)

401 392 Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 21, 2023 01:01 PM (J2vNu)

https://youtu.be/cqWU9huMMco

Kaplan v Conrad

Posted by: sven at March 21, 2023 01:04 PM (Lzpvj)

402 So anyways . . .

Posted by: Count de Monet at March 21, 2023 01:04 PM (4I/2K)

403 I don't know about TV adaptations, but in the Silver Age comics the deal was that Superman had to get him to say his own name *backwards* to banish him back to the dimension he came from. (Fifth dimension? He was the wrong color to sing with Marilyn McCoo and Billy Davis Jr.) It must have been a heck of a challenge to write those stories.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 21, 2023 12:58 PM (J2vNu)
---
As I recall, that was also true in the animated TV shows that used the character. He's basically an annoying character with godlike power (like Q from ST: TNG) who has that singular weakness. It's the only way to give Superman a way to defeat him, as he is far more powerful on a level playing field.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 21, 2023 01:04 PM (YIVH2)

404 @356

>>Race-swapped, I'm sure. The black schoolteacher shows in a white-majority suburban school teaches his students about their inborn racism, and they love him for it.

This has already been done by Key and Peel.

Substitute Teacher.

https://tinyurl.com/39ya6ncx

Posted by: Thomas Bender - Trump Fanatic Since 2016, Now With More Fanaticisms at March 21, 2023 01:05 PM (XFPre)

405 @384 - There was an episode of "Superman, The Animated Series" that used Mxyzplik really well. Gilbert Gottfried did the voice.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 21, 2023 01:05 PM (p+1gI)

406 I always thought Bennie Hill was funny as hell, but his comedy wouldn't ever fly in a woke Hollywood.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at March 21, 2023 01:05 PM (pohLc)

407 I think Shaft was done before everything went woke, but has anyone rebooted any black movies?

Not exactly, but Chadwick Boseman was posthumously replaced by women in Wakanda Forever. So even black guys aren't immune.

Posted by: Ian S. at March 21, 2023 01:05 PM (ZGrMX)

408 Once upon a time, there would have been a very funny movie in the idea of a black teacher showing up and saving affluent white school children.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at March 21, 2023 12:59 PM (ppBhU)

It HAD to have been done already
Posted by: JoeF. at March 21, 2023 01:04 PM (mR6Gs)

To Sir, With Love.

Posted by: Count de Monet at March 21, 2023 01:05 PM (4I/2K)

409 367 Faculty of Theology to confer eight honorary doctorates on 9 June 2023
....
Greta Thunberg, activist
...
Posted by: SMOD at March 21, 2023 12:56 PM (RHGPo)

Further proof that climate change is a religion.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at March 21, 2023 01:05 PM (N39Ws)

410 Redo the Brady Bunch as a black family.

"Here's the story, of man named Brady,
Who went out for Newports and never came back."

The end.

*roll credits*
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at March 21, 2023 12:59 PM (lf83v)


LOL

Posted by: Jordan61 at March 21, 2023 01:05 PM (DRSnL)

411 393 Posted by: Anna Puma at March 21, 2023 01:01 PM (5+0fa)

The first is a guilty pleasure, they never quite got that Remo was actually a borderline evil guy.

Posted by: sven at March 21, 2023 01:06 PM (Lzpvj)

412 Not seen that since don't have a subscription to HDIVE

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 21, 2023 01:06 PM (5+0fa)

413 404 @356

>>Race-swapped, I'm sure. The black schoolteacher shows in a white-majority suburban school teaches his students about their inborn racism, and they love him for it.

This has already been done by Key and Peel.

Substitute Teacher.

https://tinyurl.com/39ya6ncx
Posted by: Thomas Bender - Trump Fanatic Since 2016, Now With More Fanaticisms at March 21, 2023 01:05 PM (XFPre)

I have a rare first name that was ruined by a popular show. What these guys did to the Blakes and Aarons of the world is criminal.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 21, 2023 01:06 PM (KbCG3)

414 SNL had the Black Shadow parody with white kids always needing to get their black coach out of trouble.

I think it was Bill Russell as the guest. He was trying to pick up Laraine Neuman -- "You only think you love me, Mr. Lewis -- and Gilda Radner playing a knocked-up student.

Addendum: Found this:
https://snltranscripts.jt.org/
79/79cshadow.phtml

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 21, 2023 01:06 PM (Vwz3I)

415 > Ant-Man 3 still outgrossed Black Widow, Shang-Chi, and The Eternals

Of those four movies, I have only watched 20 minutes of Shang-Chi, and then I turned it off out of boredom. I'm not saying this to assert I'm too cool to watch modern movies or Marvel movies. I really enjoyed Guardians of the Galaxy and I have enjoyed The Mandalorian a lot. I'm saying I think I'm generally close to the core audience for Marvel movies and I don't care about them anymore. Not even a little bit.

Posted by: bonhomme at March 21, 2023 01:07 PM (V1QHJ)

416 I'm flabbergasted by those numbers. Disney cut Narnia after Prince Caspian only made 500 mil in 2009.

Posted by: Mishdog at March 21, 2023 01:07 PM (uwW33)

417 I'll stick to tubas- it's what I know
Posted by: DB

*******

Serious question- can you clean up an old tuba with a tuba toothpaste?

Posted by: Muldoon at March 21, 2023 01:07 PM (ykeLU)

418 Once upon a time, there would have been a very funny movie in the idea of a black teacher showing up and saving affluent white school children.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at March 21, 2023
*
To Sir, With Love.
Posted by: Count de Monet at March 21, 2023


***
Those kids were working-class, hardly affluent. But yes, they did learn from him.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 21, 2023 01:07 PM (J2vNu)

419 "The reimagined experience puts the focus on entertainers and scraps the animal acts that came under fire and led to costly litigation and protests."

So... they're turning Barnum and Bailey into discount Cirque du Soleil?

That might just work.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at March 21, 2023 01:08 PM (n3TvK)

420 416 I'm flabbergasted by those numbers. Disney cut Narnia after Prince Caspian only made 500 mil in 2009.


their last good product

and they ditched it

Posted by: BlackOrchid at March 21, 2023 01:08 PM (w0NJk)

421 Once upon a time, there would have been a very funny movie in the idea of a black teacher showing up and saving affluent white school children.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at March 21, 2023
*
To Sir, With Love.
Posted by: Count de Monet at March 21, 2023

I think those kids were basically chavs, not exactly affluent suburbanites.

Posted by: They call me MISTER TIBBS. at March 21, 2023 01:09 PM (La8Fd)

422 Calling people that play mobile games are gamers is akin to calling someone that screws in a light bulb a gearhead.0

It's the same bullshit they use when they claim women make up 51% of gamers now, neglecting to mention that this dubious claim is only remotely possible if identifying people that play mobile games like Candy Crush as gamers. They aren't. They play games. That's not remotely the same as being a gamer.

While it's certainly true that some gamers play mobile games, the reverse is almost never true. Very few people that play mostly mobile games also play console or PC games. The console/PC crowd it's heavily, overwhelmingly male. Very few, if any (I certainly don't know any) mobile gamers tweak gear, min/max, clan, mod, etc. I brought this up in a debate on this topic once an was labeled a white supremacist gatekeeper, lol.

Posted by: Scott M at March 21, 2023 01:09 PM (O9uxk)

423 I'm flabbergasted by those numbers. Disney cut Narnia after Prince Caspian only made 500 mil in 2009.

Posted by: Mishdog



I always assumed they ditched the project because of the values of the characters.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 21, 2023 01:09 PM (lTGtQ)

424 416 I'm flabbergasted by those numbers. Disney cut Narnia after Prince Caspian only made 500 mil in 2009.
Posted by: Mishdog at March 21, 2023 01:07 PM (uwW33)

========

They made Voyage of the Dawn Treader too. It made about $415 million off of a $145 million budget. It looks like it made a very small profit at best. Disney was also just a co-producer on the film with Walden Media footing most of the bill.

It was flat from Prince Caspian while both were heavily down from the first film which made about $745 million.

I'm sure politics was part of it, not wanting to continue involvement with a pro-Christian piece, but it was a franchise that seemed to be withering and a shaky investment at the same time.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 21, 2023 01:10 PM (LvTSG)

425 SNL had the Black Shadow parody with white kids always needing to get their black coach out of trouble

I'll take things that can never be done anymore for $1000, Alex

Posted by: JoeF. at March 21, 2023 01:10 PM (mR6Gs)

426 Serious question- can you clean up an old tuba with a tuba toothpaste?
Posted by: Muldoon at March 21, 2023 01:07 PM (ykeLU)


Of course not. That is what Brasso was invented for.

It works on trumpets, trombones, and all the instruments in that section

Posted by: Kindltot at March 21, 2023 01:10 PM (xhaym)

427 421 Once upon a time, there would have been a very funny movie in the idea of a black teacher showing up and saving affluent white school children.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at March 21, 2023
*
To Sir, With Love.
Posted by: Count de Monet at March 21, 2023

I think those kids were basically chavs, not exactly affluent suburbanites.
Posted by: They call me MISTER TIBBS. at March 21, 2023 01:09 PM (La8Fd)

Hey, white kids can be just as poor as black kids.

Posted by: Joe Biden at March 21, 2023 01:10 PM (KbCG3)

428 427 Posted by: Joe Biden at March 21, 2023 01:10 PM (KbCG3)

Not soon Joe....

a "poor black kid" will be worth 5 million.

//Gavin looking at your chair

Posted by: sven at March 21, 2023 01:11 PM (Lzpvj)

429 Of course not. That is what Brasso was invented for.

It works on trumpets, trombones, and all the instruments in that section
Posted by: Kindltot at March 21, 2023 01:10 PM

Also does a hell of a job on my stainless Ruger .357 Well, I mean before the boating accident.

Posted by: Minnfidel at March 21, 2023 01:11 PM (GDJBM)

430 Don't care. I'm consuming other media, reading independent books, foreign language comics and so on.
Let the mainstream properties burn and be forgotten. It's the dinosaurs dying after the asteroid strike and rise of the mammals. So creative destruction, baby!

Posted by: Xaver Basora at March 21, 2023 01:12 PM (HZCl6)

431 I think those kids were basically chavs, not exactly affluent suburbanites.
Posted by: They call me MISTER TIBBS. at March 21, 2023


***
"Chavs" -- that's the word I was looking for!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 21, 2023 01:12 PM (J2vNu)

432 That's Spiderthey
Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at March 21, 2023 12:30 PM (VTu1l)


Spiderthey, Spiderthey
Swings from webs, and he's ghey

You should be getting a call from the studio any second now.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 21, 2023 01:12 PM (GYIa4)

433 I like Bill Burr's take on White Savior redeems inner city school movies. Just once he want to see one where it doesn't work. White guy heads down to the ghetto school and gets the shit kicked out of him. "You just can't help these people! They're animals!"

Posted by: A more cinema verite approach at March 21, 2023 01:12 PM (La8Fd)

434 65 Kennedy will be given a "Viking funeral,"
__

Wrapped up in linens at the bottom of the skiff, set adrift in the harbor then fired upon with flaming arrows? I'd watch.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at March 21, 2023 12:04 PM (fs1hN)

i'd pay to see it once...
Posted by: SturmToddler at March 21, 2023 12:14 PM (nXhwP)

*******

We should do this Roman Gladiator Games style: lots of them over a time of celebrations. Two weeks' worth should do just fine, so long as the executioners have to complain about how they couldn't possibly fit any new ones in until Monday due to being booked solid.

Posted by: Igor, Dr. Frahnkensteen's Assistant at March 21, 2023 01:12 PM (xxG/v)

435 Whatever, I was done with the superhero movies when they decided to let that Nic Cage clown play Johnny Blaze.

Posted by: Fetterman's Lump at March 21, 2023 01:12 PM (Vu7A1)

436 426 Serious question- can you clean up an old tuba with a tuba toothpaste?
Posted by: Muldoon at March 21, 2023 01:07 PM (ykeLU)

Of course not. That is what Brasso was invented for.

It works on trumpets, trombones, and all the instruments in that section
Posted by: Kindltot at March 21, 2023 01:10 PM (xhaym)

My reloading manuals warn against Brasso on ammo cases, as it makes brass brittle. Doesn't matter on a pan bottom, on rifle cases at 60,000 psi+ it does. Don't know about tubas.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at March 21, 2023 01:13 PM (pohLc)

437 I'm flabbergasted by those numbers. Disney cut Narnia after Prince Caspian only made 500 mil in 2009.

their last good product

and they ditched it
Posted by: BlackOrchid at March 21, 2023 01:08 PM (w0NJk)


Pretty sure that was just ixnay on the Christianity.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 21, 2023 01:13 PM (GYIa4)

438 I think those kids were basically chavs, not exactly affluent suburbanites.
Posted by: They call me MISTER TIBBS. at March 21, 2023 01:09 PM (La8Fd)

Now that's just being nit-picky.

Posted by: Count de St. Hubbins Monet at March 21, 2023 01:13 PM (4I/2K)

439 Tuba?

Posted by: Toobin' at March 21, 2023 01:13 PM (JoJKJ)

440 Some of us lesser morons need an edit button.

Posted by: Diesel Jones, Biologist to the Stars at March 21, 2023 01:13 PM (Vu7A1)

441 I again say, if it involves Filoni, it is good Star Wars. If it does not, it probably is not.

Posted by: Milquetoast Mortgage-Paying Neighbor in Flyover Country at March 21, 2023 01:14 PM (5C4od)

442 Oh, well. Bob Conrad took Jan Smithers home that night and they both enjoyed themselves.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 21, 2023 01:01 PM

Knock it off, I dare ya!

Posted by: Minnfidel at March 21, 2023 01:14 PM (GDJBM)

443 Are those Narnia movies any good?

(I've only seen the first, which I thought was okayish.)

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at March 21, 2023 01:14 PM (ppBhU)

444 Marvel Mystery Oil > MCU

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko solutions at March 21, 2023 01:15 PM (EILbc)

445 121 I think Von Doomcock is very easily led by sources that may be hostile to him. He's announced that Kennedy will be fired Real Soon Now for years. It doesn't take seven years to fire someone.
____

Doomcock is the Qanon of Chicken Littles

(am I doing this right?)

Posted by: Chuck Martel at March 21, 2023 01:15 PM (fs1hN)

446 443 Are those Narnia movies any good?

(I've only seen the first, which I thought was okayish.)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at March 21, 2023 01:14 PM (ppBhU)

=======

Eh. They're fine. Worth a borrow from the library.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 21, 2023 01:15 PM (LvTSG)

447 > Serious question- can you clean up an old tuba with a tuba toothpaste?

I know this is a joke, but I'm taking the opportunity to advertise a YouTube channel I randomly ran across a while ago. It's a guy who repairs brass instruments. He's an artist and it's very satisfying to watch him turn a crumpled instrument back into a very nice, working condition.

Wes Lee Music Repair
https://youtu.be/VAgi7decbdI

Posted by: bonhomme at March 21, 2023 01:15 PM (V1QHJ)

448 If Tater Stelter was a musical instrument he would have to be a tuba

Posted by: Muldoon at March 21, 2023 01:15 PM (ykeLU)

449 But truthfully, this is a business. From a fiscal point of view, you are leaving money on the table by not representing.I think 51% of our audience is female, 28% of our audience is Hispanic. If we don't represent the people that watch what we make, eventually they'll go elsewhere because somebody else will figure it out."

If you build it they will come. If a DEI team makes woke movies, then women, bipoc, and lgbtq will watch them ! Oops.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 21, 2023 01:15 PM (xAJtR)

450 443 Are those Narnia movies any good?

(I've only seen the first, which I thought was okayish.)


hmm well being basically "forced" to watch stuff like this with my kids, I loved the first two. I didn't even know they made Voyage of the Dawn Treader now I will go look for it!

Posted by: BlackOrchid at March 21, 2023 01:16 PM (w0NJk)

451 Okayish is a good word to describe the Narnia movies.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at March 21, 2023 01:16 PM (pohLc)

452 I like Bill Burr's take on White Savior redeems inner city school movies. Just once he want to see one where it doesn't work. White guy heads down to the ghetto school and gets the shit kicked out of him. "You just can't help these people! They're animals!"
Posted by: A more cinema verite approach at March 21, 2023 01:12 PM (La8Fd)

The Principal, starring Jim Belushi and Lou Gossett, Jr. (1987)

Posted by: Count de Monet at March 21, 2023 01:16 PM (4I/2K)

453 I’m still waiting for a Ka-Zar movie.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at March 21, 2023 01:16 PM (ohFNB)

454 They made Voyage of the Dawn Treader too. It made about $415 million off of a $145 million budget. It looks like it made a very small profit at best. Disney was also just a co-producer on the film with Walden Media footing most of the bill.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 21, 2023 01:10 PM (LvTSG)


I loved that book, and they totally effed it up with adding that green mist bullshit.

Posted by: Jordan61 at March 21, 2023 01:16 PM (DRSnL)

455 Yeah, Brasso really hurt us. Now everybody thinks they can re-condition their own tubas.

Call the pros at National Tuba 1-800-TUBA

Ask about our Tuba Replacement Plan!

Posted by: DB - questioning the thing at March 21, 2023 01:16 PM (geLO8)

456 Paltrow v Optometrist underway. Fireworks guaranteed, because she pumped her ass full of ozone just before court convened. Colon fire in 3, 2, 1.

Posted by: Knock gp A Kiss at March 21, 2023 01:16 PM (MvF+J)

457 By the way, Muldoon. You asked a valid question yesterday, and I pulled an attitude and tried to win the internet.

I am sorry about that

Posted by: Kindltot at March 21, 2023 01:17 PM (xhaym)

458 Alonso is wearing a penis on her shirt in the video thumbnail.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 21, 2023 01:17 PM (xAJtR)

459 344 One IP that will never be resurrected - those Dean Martin spy movies.
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 21, 2023 12:53 PM (ZTAGJ)


————

Though OSS117 exists.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at March 21, 2023 01:17 PM (pOmz0)

460 I saw String of Flops open for Fine Young Canibles at Billy Bob's Blow Job Barn and Hand Job Emporium in 84'

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damnit! at March 21, 2023 01:17 PM (QjGT0)

461 443 Are those Narnia movies any good?

(I've only seen the first, which I thought was okayish.)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at March 21, 2023 01:14 PM (ppBhU)
______________

They are OK. I think they tried to mash-up the more adult themes in the books into a very kid-friendly movie, and it didn't really work.

Posted by: Elric Blade at March 21, 2023 01:17 PM (iFTx/)

462 411 393 Posted by: Anna Puma at March 21, 2023 01:01 PM (5+0fa)

The first is a guilty pleasure, they never quite got that Remo was actually a borderline evil guy.
Posted by: sven at March 21, 2023 01:06 PM (Lzpvj)

And Chiun is a fucking psychopath

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 21, 2023 01:17 PM (lEVn+)

463 Alonso: I have the biggest dick at Marvel!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 21, 2023 01:17 PM (xAJtR)

464
Call the pros at National Tuba 1-800-TUBA

Ask about our Tuba Replacement Plan!
Posted by: DB - questioning the thing at March 21, 2023 01:16 PM (geLO

It's not a Tuba!

Posted by: Arnold, with a headcold at March 21, 2023 01:18 PM (PiwSw)

465 456 Paltrow v Optometrist underway. Fireworks guaranteed, because she pumped her ass full of ozone just before court convened. Colon fire in 3, 2, 1.


I hate to defend Gwyneth but I don't see how she's in the wrong - she was downhill

Doc couldn't control his descent

Posted by: BlackOrchid at March 21, 2023 01:18 PM (w0NJk)

466 Whatever, I was done with the superhero movies when they decided to let that Nic Cage clown play Johnny Blaze.
Posted by: Fetterman's Lump at March 21, 2023 01:12 PM (Vu7A1)


Nic Cage almost played Superman

Posted by: Kindltot at March 21, 2023 01:18 PM (xhaym)

467 If Tater Stelter was a musical instrument he would have to be a tuba

Sousaphone.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 21, 2023 01:18 PM (AW0uW)

468 462 Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 21, 2023 01:17 PM (lEVn+)

Designated hero and comedic sociopath for a 1000 alex....

All in good fun though, Chuin was a Korean grandmother.

Posted by: sven at March 21, 2023 01:18 PM (Lzpvj)

469 I saw String of Flops open for Fine Young Canibles at Billy Bob's Blow Job Barn and Hand Job Emporium in 84'
Posted by: I'm Gumby Damnit! at March 21, 2023 01:17 PM (QjGT0)

Both kinds of foreplay!

(no diss on the band Boston)

Posted by: Count de Monet at March 21, 2023 01:18 PM (4I/2K)

470 Buh-Bye. No one cares.

Posted by: MikeG at March 21, 2023 01:19 PM (VsUo2)

471 Cannibals too

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damnit! at March 21, 2023 01:19 PM (QjGT0)

472 "I hate to defend Gwyneth but I don't see how she's in the wrong - she was downhill"

It's all good as long as she doesn't fart on me and scorch my clothes. I played with ozone as a nerd kid. It'll eat anything.

Posted by: Knock gp A Kiss at March 21, 2023 01:20 PM (MvF+J)

473 Doc couldn't control his descent
Posted by: BlackOrchid at March 21, 2023 01:18 PM

Well he did hit 88 mph. Had he just gone back in time he could have prevented this.

Posted by: Minnfidel at March 21, 2023 01:20 PM (GDJBM)

474 468 462 Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 21, 2023 01:17 PM (lEVn+)

Designated hero and comedic sociopath for a 1000 alex....

All in good fun though, Chuin was a Korean grandmother.
Posted by: sven at March 21, 2023 01:18 PM (Lzpvj)

Oh yeah, I read the heck out of The Destroyer books when I was young. But I was more of a Mack Bolan fan.

I tried reading them today and...well, I had lower standards as a teenager, apparently

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 21, 2023 01:20 PM (lEVn+)

475 They made Voyage of the Dawn Treader too. It made about $415 million off of a $145 million budget. It looks like it made a very small profit at best. Disney was also just a co-producer on the film with Walden Media footing most of the bill.

It was flat from Prince Caspian while both were heavily down from the first film which made about $745 million.

I'm sure politics was part of it, not wanting to continue involvement with a pro-Christian piece, but it was a franchise that seemed to be withering and a shaky investment at the same time.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 21, 2023 01:10 PM (LvTSG)

Yeah I had read that it was diminishing returns and that's why they cut it. If that was a risk in 2009 dollars, then their current products must really suck on if they are only brining in the same nominal dollars.

Posted by: Mishdog at March 21, 2023 01:20 PM (uwW33)

476 nood

Posted by: DB - questioning the thing at March 21, 2023 01:20 PM (geLO8)

477 https://youtu.be/LIBcRcObEAs

So Meosha X's arrest is a charming display of the type of character who will be empowered by being gifted 5 million bucks.

Posted by: sven at March 21, 2023 01:20 PM (Lzpvj)

478 Everytime I've watched a Paltrow movie, I've felt like a hit-and-run victim.

Posted by: MikeG at March 21, 2023 01:20 PM (VsUo2)

479 noood

Posted by: Knock gp A Kiss at March 21, 2023 01:21 PM (MvF+J)

480 Tater would be an ocarina.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at March 21, 2023 01:21 PM (ohFNB)

481 Nood - "Stanky Janky"

Posted by: Thrawn at March 21, 2023 01:21 PM (Rl7KJ)

482 456 Paltrow v Optometrist underway. Fireworks guaranteed, because she pumped her ass full of ozone just before court convened. Colon fire in 3, 2, 1.
Posted by: Knock gp A Kiss at March 21, 2023 01:16 PM (MvF+J)


What??

Is there a sum-up?

Posted by: Synova at March 21, 2023 01:21 PM (BD/yx)

483 .I think 51% of our audience is female, 28% of our audience is Hispanic. If we don't represent the people that watch what we make, eventually they'll go elsewhere because somebody else will figure it out

This is bullshit. Marketing isn't left to guesswork or feelz. They have whole departments with large budgets figuring this shit the fuck out. They have hard data on audience demographics. So "I think" doesn't cut it.

Posted by: Sometimes I wish I was a stupid woke woman so I could get rich just by being a stupid woke woman at March 21, 2023 01:21 PM (La8Fd)

484 I’m still waiting for a Ka-Zar movie.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at March 21, 2023 01:16 PM (ohFNB)

I'm waiting for a race swap Tarzan movie.

Posted by: Beartooth at March 21, 2023 01:21 PM (H4JoC)

485 474 Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 21, 2023 01:20 PM (lEVn+)

The 12 original Mack Bolan stories hold up.

Posted by: sven at March 21, 2023 01:21 PM (Lzpvj)

486 I'm curious what qualifies as "high enough visibility", because I myself wouldn't consider the Cuban rowing team to be a sport with a big fan base or viewership.
Posted by: Muldoon at March 21, 2023 01:03 PM (ykeLU)

Well, he didn't row to Miami, did he?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 21, 2023 01:22 PM (tkR6S)

487 I think 51% of our audience is female, 28% of our audience is Hispanic. If we don't represent the people that watch what we make, eventually they'll go elsewhere because somebody else will figure it out
___

How did you get an audience of 51% fem and 28% hisp if you didn't represent them before?

Posted by: Chuck Martel with Questions at March 21, 2023 01:23 PM (fs1hN)

488

I'd like to see MandingoC.H.U.D.

Enormously hung cannibal humanoid underground dwellers prey on the ghetto... Max blacksploitation...

Posted by: Hypnogogic Jerk at March 21, 2023 01:23 PM (hCW0c)

489 485 474 Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 21, 2023 01:20 PM (lEVn+)

The 12 original Mack Bolan stories hold up.
Posted by: sven at March 21, 2023 01:21 PM (Lzpvj)

Yeah, I think those were actually written by Don Pendleton instead of ghostwriters.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 21, 2023 01:23 PM (lEVn+)

490 Though OSS117 exists.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at March 21, 2023 01:17 PM (pOmz0)

AH the FRENCH, try watching 4 weddings, a movie deemed so racist that no Hollywood studio would touch it, a French couple with 4 daughters each get married to what they deem as non French and the Jokes fly, one Marries a Jew on Marries Muslim etc

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at March 21, 2023 01:23 PM (zLSAZ)

491 >>>348 how is half a billion a flop

cost around $250, then add in $100-125 in marketing

bear in mind that the studio does not take the full ticket sale -- they split that with the theaters. In the US, the deal for marvel is usually 90% of ticket price for the first week or first two, then 60% after that. Foreign markets want 50% or more.

So you can't just go "it made $470 million for marvel." No, it made $470 million for everyone, and marvel takes about 60% of that.

Posted by: David French at March 21, 2023 01:23 PM (BvUNN)

492 491 So you can't just go "it made $470 million for marvel." No, it made $470 million for everyone, and marvel takes about 60% of that.

Posted by: David French at March 21, 2023 01:23 PM (BvUNN)

========

Such insight from a man obsessed with owning the cons for conservatism!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 21, 2023 01:25 PM (LvTSG)

493 Anybody still watching SyFy's The Ark.

It's so stupid I erased ep. 4 half way thru...
after watching the new Beavis and ButtHead.

Posted by: DaveA at March 21, 2023 01:27 PM (FhXTo)

494 Can't beat viking funeral.

Posted by: runner at March 21, 2023 01:28 PM (IetnX)

495 500 million is hardly a failure, even if it took 250 million to make.

Not standing up for any of these bozos but I could do nicely with 250 million..

Posted by: Gonzotx at March 21, 2023 01:37 PM (MwHgU)

496 Right now "Guardians of the Galaxy 3" is really the only possible Money maker for Marvel/Disney in the near future.
"The Mandlorian" looks like its run is over.
"The Marvels" looks DOA and needs to be put into a vault the way Batgirl was.

Posted by: Picric at March 21, 2023 01:39 PM (oXl1R)

497 "...If we don't represent the people that watch what we make, eventually they'll go elsewhere because somebody else will figure it out." - Victoria Alonso

Huh. You don't say.

Posted by: Simple Stevo at March 21, 2023 01:39 PM (NFaWv)

498 500 million is hardly a failure, even if it took 250 million to make.

Not standing up for any of these bozos but I could do nicely with 250 million..


They also spent $250 million advertising it.

Posted by: Ian S. at March 21, 2023 01:39 PM (ZGrMX)

499 498 500 million is hardly a failure, even if it took 250 million to make.

Not standing up for any of these bozos but I could do nicely with 250 million..

They also spent $250 million advertising it.
Posted by: Ian S. at March 21, 2023 01:39 PM (ZGrMX)

=======

And they don't get all of the $500 million.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 21, 2023 01:41 PM (LvTSG)

500 And I’m a girl and as a kid in the early 60”s, I read hundreds of comic books.

Our dad would give us money for camping trips, the ride, and we went to this magic store 3 blocks away and he had shelves and shelves of comic books, used, I mean you could by new, but hey. We would get like 50 and then trade them back, at a monetary loss, but the guy had to make a living , but it was wonderful.

It was a good time to be young. A lost time. I wish I could go back, it really was the wonder years

Posted by: Gonzotx at March 21, 2023 01:41 PM (MwHgU)

501 The Mandlorian" looks like its run is over.

Dear God, episode 3 this season was God awful

And I felt guilty because it’s so woke and the firing of Gina C….

I don’t pay for Disney, my daughter has it for her young daughters but only lets them watch old Disney, have to be real careful lots of gay stuff in their products now

Posted by: Gonzotx at March 21, 2023 01:45 PM (MwHgU)

502 I was assuming the 250 million included advertising

My bad

Posted by: Gonzotx at March 21, 2023 01:45 PM (MwHgU)

503 Marvel Cinematic have grossed over 25 billion worldwide
That makes Marvel the biggest movie franchise. ever

Posted by: Paul at March 21, 2023 01:46 PM (OE7dT)

504 "Go 4th and Sin Nomorrrh"..
Ya know if she REALLY wanted "Correct the gendering stuff"..she would have made X-Men ALL trans characters, then the name would be "Fine".

Posted by: birddog at March 21, 2023 01:46 PM (uAI4S)

505 AntMan cost 200 million to make.
So how much is their profit so far ?
Is that a flop?

Posted by: Paul at March 21, 2023 01:49 PM (OE7dT)

506 495 Posted by: Gonzotx at March 21, 2023 01:37 PM (MwHgU)

If you sell a large pizza for 10 bucks that costs 10 bucks to make your pizza joint will go broke.

Posted by: sven at March 21, 2023 01:51 PM (Lzpvj)

507 Posted by: Paul at March 21, 2023 01:49 PM (OE7dT)

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This has been explained several times.

Of course, you wouldn't read because you are an unserious and silly person.

Also, if Disney is going so great why are they announcing thousands of layoffs?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 21, 2023 02:00 PM (LvTSG)

508 "Diktor Von Doomcock reports on a claimed report from a screening of The Marvels. He cannot verify this person's identity, and he can't confirm that this is an accurate report.

It sounds plausible, though."

People who listen to Doomcock prove the notion that Charlie Brown LIKES it when Lucy yanks the football away. Otherwise he wouldn't keep going back for more.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at March 21, 2023 02:26 PM (3AR13)

509 I'll believe it when Kennedy is out the door.

I like Doomcock, I'm subscribed to him on Youtube, but I got awfully tired of the whole 'well Chapek is really anti-woke, and is really AKSHUALLY playing some kind of 10-D chess game, and that's why he has to cave and give them absolutely everything they demand of him at every point so at some unspecified future point he can finally start firing people!'

The rot at Disney goes too deep. Iger isn't going to 'fight woke', this diversity skank will be replaced with another diversity hire that slightly more competent at her job, but the woke crap will remain the same.

Posted by: DudeAbiding at March 21, 2023 02:32 PM (setIA)

510 Regarding Kennedy, did you mean “coffee-felcher”? : D

Posted by: scottyv at March 21, 2023 02:40 PM (KyY7S)

511 I saw ant man, and here is a very fair list of the problems:

Bratty teenage daughter. Nobody likes a wise-ass teen. It's not a woke thing just a parent thing. Especially when that teen was a sweet kid in the previous two movies.

The kind is an "activist", and that is seen as "good". Why not have her be an EMT?

The star of the show (ant man) is being overshadowed and constantly saved by female co-stars. Even in the most mundane ways.

Some janky special effects. Poor management of the geography.

Too many characters, each needing their special moment.


Posted by: Comrade Roboto at March 21, 2023 02:54 PM (+DS2f)

512 Ehhh. Doomc*ck has been predicting the imminent firing of Kennedy for literally years at this point. And 90% of the things he claims are "unconfirmed leaks" never pan out. He's just presenting his own wish fulfillment fantasies are "rumours from an insider". Don't take him seriously.

But as others have pointed out, it doesn't matter. These brands have been so thoroughly tainted that the only way forward is to let them rest for a few years, and reboot them with a small launch by a producer with a singular vision.

Posted by: Daniel Ream at March 21, 2023 02:56 PM (Q+vSB)

513 Sorry. I just cannot take that video ad with someone brushing away toe fungus. I just can't.
I'll return from time to time, but until it's gone I can't deal. Love y'all. See you again soon, I hope.

Posted by: Dave at March 21, 2023 02:57 PM (+ZybR)

514 The Mandalorian is failing for the same reasons - the hero - the Mandalorian, is constantly having to be saved/overshadowed by someone else. His brand was cool gunfighter/bounty hunter/rogue samurai.

Now he's constantly having to be saved by a third party, usually a woman.

By the third episode he's hardly in the show anymore. That is what is pissing people off.

That and going backwards, from a story perspective. Bringing Grogu back was a mistake.

Posted by: Comrade Roboto at March 21, 2023 03:00 PM (+DS2f)

515 Imagine Clint Eastwood in For a few dollars more. Now imagine he gets captured immediately, then a strong female saves him. Several times. Then he fades into the background, and the movie becomes about the strong female instead. And Clint is constantly telling the strong female how strong and wonderful she is.

Cara Dune was a strong female - but while she was doing strong female shit, the Mandalorian was doing strong male shit. They were helping each other, and being badass together. And they didn't have to talk about it while it was happening. he doesn't have to praise her, or her him. Just a nod will do.

Posted by: Comrade Roboto at March 21, 2023 03:06 PM (+DS2f)

516 What percentage of people in the entertainment industry are not on some sort of meds or under professional care?

Posted by: Tom at March 21, 2023 03:21 PM (EcD5Y)

517 I'll pay attention if they bring back Gina Carano.

Posted by: MikeN at March 21, 2023 04:43 PM (XygMV)

518 The actual and measurable success of the first "Black Panther" in selling tickets to Black audiences beyond traditional comic book fans (without losing any of those tradtional fans) misled studios into believing identical success could be accomplished by selling Gay or Muslim or Hispanic superheros ... all the nerds PLUS all the ethnically-represented- normies.

But, ONE the Black audience is the largest such target. No way to repeat sale ticket numbers with a smaller demographic slice. (Like 12% of the potential audience is Black but only 3% at best is Gay.) SECOND, you can't sell targeted crap to ANY audience. The female Doctor Who didn't add a bunch of new female fans... female fans wanted to vicariously be the Doctor's COMPANION. When the female lead stomps all over six decades of backstory, the franchise loses EVERYBODY.

Posted by: Pouncer at March 21, 2023 06:34 PM (jke9x)

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