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The Democrats Want a Civil War and They Might Wind Up Getting One
In case you missed it earlier in JJ's Morning Briefing, Soros-owned-and-operated DA Alvin Bragg is putting his planned arrest on Trump on hold to hear from one more witness.
But now it turns out that the Manhattan district attorney's office, which has Trump in its sights, just may be stepping back from the brink: Business Insider reported Saturday night that Trump's indictment is "on hold" until one more witness testifies Monday afternoon. That's about all that has come to light, as the relevant authorities are being quite closemouthed about this whole thing. Insider says that "a source with knowledge of the investigation" told them on Saturday night "there is one more witness." The indictment is apparently not a certainty until this witness testifies. But who is this witness? The Insider's source wouldn't say, and so all that we're told is that "a separate source, who also spoke on condition of anonymity, told Insider that the witness is not Allen Weisselberg, Trump's former CFO, who is serving a five-month sentence for admittedly masterminding a payroll tax-dodge scheme at the Trump Organization."The mystery witness's identity has now been reported: Robert Costello, a lawyer for Rudy Giuliani. And a former legal advisor to... Michael Cohen.
A source with knowledge of the "hush-money" investigation has confirmed to the New York Times that Rudy Giuliani lawyer Robert Costello, a former legal advisor to Michael Cohen, will be appearing before the grand jury on Monday with the sole intention of undermining Cohen's credibility.
Steven Kruiser writes about people getting back on the Trump Train in response to this Soros DA's communist scheme to plunge the US into a civil war that will cost hundreds of thousands of lives.
American Democrats are continuing their descent into a Trump-induced madness from which there obviously won't be any return. They've escalated their insane war on Donald Trump to a point that has the potential to backfire in grand fashion. They really didn't think this one through. Then again, they haven't thought any of their Trump tantrums through. They're blinded by rage and won't stop until they get some red meat footage for the 14 viewers who still watch MSNBC and CNN. ... Megan wrote a VIP column over the weekend that perfectly described what kind of effect arresting Trump will have. In it, she says that "ship-jumpers" like her will be "back on the Trump Train." That will no doubt be playing out in large numbers across America. That's plain to see for everyone but the Democrats:I will not be re-boarding the Trump Train over this, though I do feel that sense that maybe I should, just to teach the left a lesson. Or maybe I should just claim I'm back aboard. JJ also linked Miranda Divine making the point that this Soros-funded election interference has the side-benefit of drawing attention away from the Biden Family Corruption probe.
SFK
@stephenkruiser #TrueStory. The Democrats' daddy issues are going to turn him into an unstoppable political martyr.
If Democrats really wanted Donald Trump to fade away, as they claim, they would stop persecuting him. Maybe they are so blinded by hatred that they can't see that every time they use the heavy hand of the law against the former president, they just cement his status as a MAGA martyr. Or maybe they are so terrified of running against Ron DeSantis in 2024 that they actually want to martyr Trump to ensure he wins the Republican presidential primary ready for a repeat contest with Joe Biden. In that scenario, Democratic prosecutors in New York and Georgia, and a partisan DOJ, play the role of picadors in a bullfight who soften up the bull with a thousand cuts before the decrepit old matador staggers out to finish him off. Whether or not Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg really is about to arrest Trump this week, as has been reported, over trumped-up hush-money charges relating to a one-time assignation 17 years ago with porn star Stormy Daniels, Friday's leak from the court could not have come at a better time for President Biden.Wait -- there's a fourth Biden who received Chinese communist money, now? That was a big weekend of news I missed.
The story that the first former president in American history would be charged with a crime, fingerprinted, put in a holding cell and maybe even perp-walked to humiliate him before the world is a dream come true for salivating Trump-haters. But, more significantly, the story took the spotlight off the bombshell bank records released the previous day by the House Oversight Committee, showing $1,065,000 had been funneled from a Chinese energy company, through Biden intimate Rob Walker, to four immediate family members of Joe Biden: his son Hunter, brother James, and Hallie Biden, the widow of his late son Beau, who also is Hunter's former lover. Also listed as a recipient of the Chinese money, which was doled out to the four Bidens in regular small increments between March 6 and May 18, 2017, was an as-yet-unidentified family member, listed only on bank wires as "Biden."
Comer's team has subpoenaed further bank records and is expected to reveal the identity of that mystery person this week. In anyone's language, that is a huge story. Even the New York Times had to cover it, although with a typical "Republicans pounce" angle, and "balanced" by a story about an "investigation" by House Democrats into a supposedly missing gift to Trump from the Japanese prime minister of a $3,000 golf driver and $500 putter. But the golf clubs are thin gruel against the impending exposure of the Biden family's foreign influence-peddling scheme, with then-VP Biden at its center. So for the Democrats' spin machine, it was time for a Trump scandal, always their tactic in a "Break glass in case of emergency" moment like this, guaranteed to distract media attention, and keep voters in the dark about the real scandal swirling around Biden.I don't think this is just about distraction -- I think this is also about intimidation. The Democrats ordered up this political prosecution to get Republicans to back off of Joe Biden and his Chinese Connection. I quoted Kyle Shideler last week. He pointed out that every time the Democrats commit a crime,
they weaponize the law enforcement agencies to accuse the Republicans:
Just as Hillary Clinton needed an answer to her own national security investigation and dialed up the completely-invented "Trump is a Russian Agent" scam to deflect from her own crimes, so too is the DOJ now dialing up some Very Dangerous and Scary Pro-Life Protesters so you don't notice the antifa and Jane's Revenge firebombers. Shideler:
Again: What Trump is being accused of -- disguising a payment that he didn't want to put in campaign finance disclosures -- is exactly what we know for a fact Hillary Clinton did in 2016, when her campaign fraudulently listed payments to FusionGPS as "legal services" to be paid to her DC political lawyers. In fact, her DC political lawyers were just used as cleanskins to hide the payment; Hillary paid the FusionGPS money to them, claiming it was for "legal services," and her lawyers then paid the money to FusionGPS. The money was not for "legal services." It was to pay for a fake dossier about a political opponent and then push that dossier to the FBI and the media. Are we going to arrest Hillary Clinton next? If not, why not? Below, Ron DeSantis blasts the Soros prosecutor Alvin Bragg, and the rest of the Soros prosecutors. He condemns this as an obviously-politicized prosecution and weaponization of law enforcement by Democrats. He does get in a small dig at Trump, saying "I don't know what goes into paying hush money to a porn star to secure silence." But that aside, he's pretty firm on the outrageousness of this.
In a very real way, the FBI jujitusing a rash of anarchist attacks against pro-lifers into a reason to investigate pro-lifers is very similar to the J6 situation & Russia Collusion Hoax before it.
For the better part of a year, anarchist and black identity extremists launched massive violent riots. 2 billion dollars in damage, numerous people killed. Serious people (AG Barr) were calling for seditious conspiracy prosecutions & POTUS was threatening the insurrection act. The DOJ/FBI was being hammered on its failures to investigate and prosecute, including when anarchists like Lisa Fithian openly called for preparing to occupy govt buildings in the event the 2020 election didn't go their way. So with J6 we see an overwhelming demand to use the term insurrection and for DOJ to charge seditious conspiracy (including using as evidence the fact defendants armed themselves against Antifa which had attacked numerous previous rallies in DC). And before J6 with the Whitmer fednapping case. The story HAD to be about right wingers storming government buildings in a seditious conspiracy. Why? BECAUSE that is what the radicals on the left were being accused of and the accusation needed to be neutralized. That's why J6 couldn't be the story of a rowdy protest that got out of hand. It needed to be about seditious conspiracy to overthrow the government and an insurrection --specifically those words. Similarly with the Russia Collusion hoax. We think of the previous Clinton scandal as being about classified information. Which is true. But perhaps more importantly, Clinton was being accused of selling access, including to Russia.[Link to TheHill.com article]
FBI's 37 secret pages of memos about Russia, Clintons and Uranium One
The FBI actually released a few documents -- but they were just already-public letters from members of Congress demanding answers in the Uranium One case.
It was therefore imperative that the DOJ investigate Trump for foreign ties, and not just any foreign ties. It needed to be Russia.
In each case, what you see is the FBI/DOJ coming under criticism by conservatives for failing to enforce the law. And each time the response was "oh yeah. We'll enforce it good and HARD. Against you." Complain about firebombs at pregnancy centers. We'll arrest sidewalk counselors. Complain about a presidential candidate selling Uranium to Moscow, we'll claim yours was a Russian agent. Complain about insurrection? We'll show you insurrection.
BREAKING: Gov. DeSantis responds to Trump possibly being indicted.
— Julio Rosas (@Julio_Rosas11) March 20, 2023
"I don't know what goes into paying hush money to a porn star to secure silence over some type of alleged affair..." but says Alvin Bragg is a Soros-backed DA who is going after Trump for political reasons. pic.twitter.com/M0JiQP3KVb
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Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 20, 2023 12:01 PM (ncXxy)
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so, how was the movie?
Posted by: SturmToddler at March 20, 2023 12:01 PM (Mkvkw)
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Hi Ace
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 20, 2023 12:01 PM (Y+l9t)
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On to the content.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 20, 2023 12:01 PM (ncXxy)
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Podium
Posted by: Skip at March 20, 2023 12:01 PM (Ck5SS)
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oh yeah, aside from the statute of limitations having run out and not understanding the basic words of what laws are, bang up job, Bragg
Posted by: sockamster, gator at March 20, 2023 12:03 PM (MLrvz)
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I personally think the leaks of trump's pending arrest were a trial balloon to see what would happen. The democrats did not like the result they got. For whatever reason they thought they could isolate trump with the leaks but that backfired spectacularly.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 20, 2023 12:03 PM (ncXxy)
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Good afternoon Ace!
Posted by: Moonbeam at March 20, 2023 12:03 PM (rbKZ6)
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FIRST!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 20, 2023 12:03 PM (Zz0t1)
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I NOODlum'd, you no noodin' bastages.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 20, 2023 12:04 PM (Zz0t1)
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What is this 'rule of law' that folks mention?
Posted by: Tonypete at March 20, 2023 12:05 PM (OQM6D)
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"Buying politicians isn't a crime. Biden is the most honest man in politics."
"A man paying hush money is the gravest crime any president has ever considered in the history of the Republic. Trump should be executed on the spot."
The same people.
"A man paying hush money is the gravest crime any president has ever considered in the history of the Republic. Trump should be executed on the spot."
The same people.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 20, 2023 12:05 PM (LvTSG)
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And to go over the facts here.
Cohen paid Stormy. He didn't ask for proof or anything, he just said "here's some cash, go away"
Trump paid Cohen back using his business which is his business, as in Trump is the business. Get it? Expenses toward being Trump is what his business does. And pays for.
So paying cohen to reimburse Cohen is a business expesnse. so, the record is true. The record doesn't have to reflect that trump did a badboy thing with a badboygirl. No, here's money to cohen that I, as the boss, authorize.
Ok. That's the law, pt 1.
Cohen paid Stormy. He didn't ask for proof or anything, he just said "here's some cash, go away"
Trump paid Cohen back using his business which is his business, as in Trump is the business. Get it? Expenses toward being Trump is what his business does. And pays for.
So paying cohen to reimburse Cohen is a business expesnse. so, the record is true. The record doesn't have to reflect that trump did a badboy thing with a badboygirl. No, here's money to cohen that I, as the boss, authorize.
Ok. That's the law, pt 1.
Posted by: sockamster, gator at March 20, 2023 12:05 PM (MLrvz)
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>>>6 oh yeah, aside from the statute of limitations having run out and not understanding the basic words of what laws are, bang up job, Bragg
oh yeah? What is the statute of limitations on this? And how is he attempting to ignore that?
oh yeah? What is the statute of limitations on this? And how is he attempting to ignore that?
Posted by: ace at March 20, 2023 12:05 PM (BvUNN)
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I will not be re-boarding the Trump Train over this, though I do feel that sense that maybe I should, just to teach the left a lesson. Or maybe I should just claim I'm back aboard.
Which is exactly what the Dems want. I won't play their game.
Which is exactly what the Dems want. I won't play their game.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 20, 2023 12:05 PM (eOEVl)
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7 I personally think the leaks of trump's pending arrest were a trial balloon to see what would happen. The democrats did not like the result they got. For whatever reason they thought they could isolate trump with the leaks but that backfired spectacularly.
I think you're right.
What the Left is doing here is exactly the playbook they used in Israel against Bibi. and look how that worked out - maybe it was semi-effective in the beginning but they lost impact over time. And in this case it started out with them looking petty - it's not a good look.
I think you're right.
What the Left is doing here is exactly the playbook they used in Israel against Bibi. and look how that worked out - maybe it was semi-effective in the beginning but they lost impact over time. And in this case it started out with them looking petty - it's not a good look.
Posted by: BlackOrchid at March 20, 2023 12:05 PM (w0NJk)
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Statute of limitations left the barn so long ago its not even the cows have dried up
Posted by: Skip at March 20, 2023 12:06 PM (Ck5SS)
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Willowed:
Whatever the Grand Jury decides, its consideration makes clear: no one is above the law
No one is above the law, except for Hunter Biden, Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, Joe Biden, Ilhan Omar, Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg, and on and on and on.
Whatever the Grand Jury decides, its consideration makes clear: no one is above the law
No one is above the law, except for Hunter Biden, Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, Joe Biden, Ilhan Omar, Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg, and on and on and on.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 20, 2023 12:06 PM (2tUFv)
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oh yeah, aside from the statute of limitations having run out and not understanding the basic words of what laws are, bang up job, Bragg
oh yeah? What is the statute of limitations on this? And how is he attempting to ignore that?
Or more precisely, what is the crime?
oh yeah? What is the statute of limitations on this? And how is he attempting to ignore that?
Or more precisely, what is the crime?
Posted by: Archimedes at March 20, 2023 12:06 PM (eOEVl)
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Second, the FEC thing is wrong too.
Cohen had no idea what the FEC is. He never contemplated it. He never communicated it to Trump.
There was no conspiracy. It's just normal trump-world stuff.
cohen does errands and Trump, through his business, that is him, and he it, pays Cohen back.
Cohen had no idea what the FEC is. He never contemplated it. He never communicated it to Trump.
There was no conspiracy. It's just normal trump-world stuff.
cohen does errands and Trump, through his business, that is him, and he it, pays Cohen back.
Posted by: sockamster, gator at March 20, 2023 12:06 PM (MLrvz)
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14 >>>6 oh yeah, aside from the statute of limitations having run out and not understanding the basic words of what laws are, bang up job, Bragg
oh yeah? What is the statute of limitations on this? And how is he attempting to ignore that?
UPDATE: I realize that sounds like I'm challenging you. I'm not! I'm seeking information!
The "Oh yeah" was both "Oh really?" and "oh yeah, I completely forgot about the statute of limitations."
I thought about it for Hillary Clinton, but forgot about it with Trump -- who would have done this at abot the same time Hillary was falsifying her payments to FusionGPS.
oh yeah? What is the statute of limitations on this? And how is he attempting to ignore that?
UPDATE: I realize that sounds like I'm challenging you. I'm not! I'm seeking information!
The "Oh yeah" was both "Oh really?" and "oh yeah, I completely forgot about the statute of limitations."
I thought about it for Hillary Clinton, but forgot about it with Trump -- who would have done this at abot the same time Hillary was falsifying her payments to FusionGPS.
Posted by: ace at March 20, 2023 12:07 PM (BvUNN)
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The Bidens put the “family” in “crime family”.
Posted by: Moonbeam at March 20, 2023 12:07 PM (rbKZ6)
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“Make me one with everything.”
Posted by: Hokey Pokey at March 20, 2023 12:07 PM (glGDV)
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Defund the secret police.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 20, 2023 12:07 PM (2tUFv)
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There will be no civil war or meaningful pushback of any kind, anywhere, from anyone. We're a long way from that time.
There will be hundreds of thousands killed, perhaps millions, but that comes *before* the pushback. Who would fight to save this country? It's dead, Jim.
People will fight to save themselves. And we're not quite there yet.
There will be hundreds of thousands killed, perhaps millions, but that comes *before* the pushback. Who would fight to save this country? It's dead, Jim.
People will fight to save themselves. And we're not quite there yet.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 20, 2023 12:07 PM (oINRc)
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If you are Gen X then you've seen your expectations slipping downward for the ?third? time. But you've never seen the public sector touched by recession.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at March 20, 2023 12:07 PM (44ww/)
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A source with knowledge of the "hush-money" investigation has confirmed to the New York Times that Rudy Giuliani lawyer Robert Costello, a former legal advisor to Michael Cohen, will be appearing before the grand jury on Monday with the sole intention of undermining Cohen's credibility.
Isn't Cohen a convicted, admitted?, perjurer? It's a big ask to try and impugn that kind of rock solid credibility.
Isn't Cohen a convicted, admitted?, perjurer? It's a big ask to try and impugn that kind of rock solid credibility.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 20, 2023 12:07 PM (z99Zw)
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I personally think the leaks of trump's pending arrest were a trial balloon to see what would happen. The democrats did not like the result they got. For whatever reason they thought they could isolate trump with the leaks but that backfired spectacularly.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 20, 2023 12:03 PM (ncXxy)
I'll admit to not having looked into the details behind this, but I couldn't tell if this was Bragg et al threatening to arrest Trump, or people on our side saying that was what would happen. After J6, I'm inclined to think any supposed moves like this are intended to provoke a reaction from us and therefore justify another Deep State crackdown.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 20, 2023 12:03 PM (ncXxy)
I'll admit to not having looked into the details behind this, but I couldn't tell if this was Bragg et al threatening to arrest Trump, or people on our side saying that was what would happen. After J6, I'm inclined to think any supposed moves like this are intended to provoke a reaction from us and therefore justify another Deep State crackdown.
Posted by: Dr. T at March 20, 2023 12:07 PM (jGGMD)
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Now would be a hilariously ironic time for Jimmy Carter to die.
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 20, 2023 12:07 PM (ZTAGJ)
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JJ also linked Miranda Divine making the point that this Soros-funded election interference has the side-benefit of drawing attention away from the Biden Family Corruption probe.
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There are several potential distractions. This Trump stuff is one of them. Jimmy Carter dying is another. Some escalation (real or imagined) in Ukraine is another.
Of all the potential distractions, this is the most aggressive and dangerous. Not because they might arrest Trump (or try to), but because of the *reason* for that action. They don't fear Trump. They know how to contain him (see his entire administration for examples). This is about telling a vast swath of this country that they have no chance.
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There are several potential distractions. This Trump stuff is one of them. Jimmy Carter dying is another. Some escalation (real or imagined) in Ukraine is another.
Of all the potential distractions, this is the most aggressive and dangerous. Not because they might arrest Trump (or try to), but because of the *reason* for that action. They don't fear Trump. They know how to contain him (see his entire administration for examples). This is about telling a vast swath of this country that they have no chance.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 20, 2023 12:07 PM (t0OGg)
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oh yeah? What is the statute of limitations on this? And how is he attempting to ignore that?
Posted by: ace
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the word on the street is 2 years.
Bragg is trying to make it a felony so...AFAIK..it could be longer.
Posted by: ace
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the word on the street is 2 years.
Bragg is trying to make it a felony so...AFAIK..it could be longer.
Posted by: sockamster, gator at March 20, 2023 12:07 PM (MLrvz)
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"a civil war that will cost hundreds of thousands of lives."
Baaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahah. No.
Serious disruption to supplies combined with resultant loss of order in blue shitholes would kill millions.
But what the left thinks they are doing here is simple; they view western military might as some sort of cargo cult, a thing that is their birthright. And they don't take lessons from power-WW2 US wars because they've sabotaged basically every one of them - they think that if it's time to turn the guns on normie-Americans, they'll take the gloves off. They assume a quick, brutal victory.
And so the plan is, as they turn the screws, either we don't fight back and they win, or we do fight back and they change social media blacklists to kill lists. They have the brutality to start the fight but I think they lack the competence to see it through to victory.
Baaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahah. No.
Serious disruption to supplies combined with resultant loss of order in blue shitholes would kill millions.
But what the left thinks they are doing here is simple; they view western military might as some sort of cargo cult, a thing that is their birthright. And they don't take lessons from power-WW2 US wars because they've sabotaged basically every one of them - they think that if it's time to turn the guns on normie-Americans, they'll take the gloves off. They assume a quick, brutal victory.
And so the plan is, as they turn the screws, either we don't fight back and they win, or we do fight back and they change social media blacklists to kill lists. They have the brutality to start the fight but I think they lack the competence to see it through to victory.
Posted by: somedood at March 20, 2023 12:07 PM (/z9fK)
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I think we're talking race war not civil war. Slave rebellions happen a lot.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 20, 2023 12:08 PM (8Sqzu)
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It's funny to google (use google specifically) and search
what law did trump break
and nothing about this comes up. It's all impeachment silliness.
From what I could finally find, this "payoff" whatever is a misdemeanor similar to not paying a speeding ticket you received from a camera that caught you passing through a toll area without the proper credentials.
what law did trump break
and nothing about this comes up. It's all impeachment silliness.
From what I could finally find, this "payoff" whatever is a misdemeanor similar to not paying a speeding ticket you received from a camera that caught you passing through a toll area without the proper credentials.
Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 20, 2023 12:08 PM (ZLyax)
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* post-WW2 wars
Posted by: somedood at March 20, 2023 12:08 PM (/z9fK)
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now, if you ... say you're an employee at dunder mifflin, and you put in an expense for your draftkings habit. and then relabel it as paying Cohen for legal fees.
You have altered the record.
you have also altered it to hide the crime of embezzlement.
that ... is how I think the law works.
You have altered the record.
you have also altered it to hide the crime of embezzlement.
that ... is how I think the law works.
Posted by: sockamster, gator at March 20, 2023 12:09 PM (MLrvz)
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I'll admit to not having looked into the details behind this, but I couldn't tell if this was Bragg et al threatening to arrest Trump, or people on our side saying that was what would happen.
As I said in the preceding thread, Trump loves this. He brought it up because he was worried Bragg might come to his senses and not do the arrest.
As I said in the preceding thread, Trump loves this. He brought it up because he was worried Bragg might come to his senses and not do the arrest.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 20, 2023 12:09 PM (eOEVl)
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>>>16 7 I personally think the leaks of trump's pending arrest were a trial balloon to see what would happen. The democrats did not like the result they got. For whatever reason they thought they could isolate trump with the leaks but that backfired spectacularly.
I don't think so, I think you're being overly optimistic. I don't think you comprehend just how insane the Democrats have become, and how willing they are to risk civil war to virtue signal about how Outraged they are.
It's a GOPe-kind of thought to think, "They wouldn't dare." All they do is dare now, and we have Mitch McConnell telling us we should be reasonable and accept all this.
I don't think so, I think you're being overly optimistic. I don't think you comprehend just how insane the Democrats have become, and how willing they are to risk civil war to virtue signal about how Outraged they are.
It's a GOPe-kind of thought to think, "They wouldn't dare." All they do is dare now, and we have Mitch McConnell telling us we should be reasonable and accept all this.
Posted by: ace at March 20, 2023 12:09 PM (BvUNN)
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Costello for turning turf is not a trustworthy unimpeachable source.
Bragg will still lose unless Ms. Blassy-Ford suddenly remembers something.
Bragg will still lose unless Ms. Blassy-Ford suddenly remembers something.
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 20, 2023 12:09 PM (ZTAGJ)
Posted by: Archer at March 20, 2023 12:09 PM (gmo/4)
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The Democrats ordered up this political prosecution to get Republicans to back off of Joe Biden and his Chinese Connection.
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Not many Republicans are on Biden's case. Just the usual suspects. It is certainly an intimidation play, but I think it is aimed lower. They want normal people who are down Trump's message to understand that there is no hope for them and they'd best shut up and fall into line. That will cascade out from there, including taking out any MAGA-friendly or MAGA-curious government types who suddenly don't have meaningful support because the people have given up and battened down the hatches. Or gone to war over it. That could break either way. This is the riskiest option for the regime to try.
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Not many Republicans are on Biden's case. Just the usual suspects. It is certainly an intimidation play, but I think it is aimed lower. They want normal people who are down Trump's message to understand that there is no hope for them and they'd best shut up and fall into line. That will cascade out from there, including taking out any MAGA-friendly or MAGA-curious government types who suddenly don't have meaningful support because the people have given up and battened down the hatches. Or gone to war over it. That could break either way. This is the riskiest option for the regime to try.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 20, 2023 12:09 PM (t0OGg)
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6 oh yeah, aside from the statute of limitations having run out and not understanding the basic words of what laws are, bang up job, Bragg
oh yeah? What is the statute of limitations on this? And how is he attempting to ignore that?
Posted by: ace at March 20, 2023 12:05 PM
The SOL for most non violent Federal crimes is 5 years.
Not sure how this idiot thinks he can get around that.
oh yeah? What is the statute of limitations on this? And how is he attempting to ignore that?
Posted by: ace at March 20, 2023 12:05 PM
The SOL for most non violent Federal crimes is 5 years.
Not sure how this idiot thinks he can get around that.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 20, 2023 12:09 PM (ncXxy)
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>>>37 I'll admit to not having looked into the details behind this, but I couldn't tell if this was Bragg et al threatening to arrest Trump, or people on our side saying that was what would happen.
Bragg contacted the police about a possible need for them on Tuesday. Or something. He spoke to police about this matter, which is strong indication he is getting advice about how to proceed with an arrest.
Bragg contacted the police about a possible need for them on Tuesday. Or something. He spoke to police about this matter, which is strong indication he is getting advice about how to proceed with an arrest.
Posted by: ace at March 20, 2023 12:10 PM (BvUNN)
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reaking:
Trump in a white Bronco with police chasing at slow speed down FL freeway.
You forgot to mention that he was mooning the cops.
Trump in a white Bronco with police chasing at slow speed down FL freeway.
You forgot to mention that he was mooning the cops.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 20, 2023 12:10 PM (eOEVl)
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Anybody contemplating protesting over this, if you get arrested, you can expect DJT to give you the same selfless generous help he gave to the J6'ers.
Posted by: Veni, Vidi, gp at March 20, 2023 12:10 PM (MvF+J)
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I still think this is in part a backup plan for their failed attempt to crash the banks. Trump (or any President and presumptive nominee) being arrested is definitely going to make people go get some cash, and who knows what Ray Epps "IT'S AN ARMED REBELLION!!!" stuff they've got planned to push their next phase.
Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 20, 2023 12:10 PM (ZLyax)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 20, 2023 12:10 PM (t0OGg)
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If Trump gets perp-walked, don't protest in any jurisdiction with a Soros prosecutor.
In Portland, only right-wingers are charged with riot - trying to burn down the Federal courthouse is perfectly fine if you are on the Left.
Boycott New York City - don't travel to New York, and don't do business with any person or company located in New York.
In Portland, only right-wingers are charged with riot - trying to burn down the Federal courthouse is perfectly fine if you are on the Left.
Boycott New York City - don't travel to New York, and don't do business with any person or company located in New York.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 20, 2023 12:11 PM (2tUFv)
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I think it would be interesting for New York to attempt to extradite Trump, and Florida to refuse.
I DON'T want Trump to be actually jailed in New York -- too much chance of him getting Epsteined.
I DON'T want Trump to be actually jailed in New York -- too much chance of him getting Epsteined.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at March 20, 2023 12:11 PM (bW8dp)
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>>>The SOL for most non violent Federal crimes is 5 years.
Not sure how this idiot thinks he can get around that.
thanks. I don't know how you get around it, either.
Oh I bet he'll claim "We couldn't arrest him when he was president so the statute of limitations was on-hold for four years and only began running again in the post-presidency."
Not sure how this idiot thinks he can get around that.
thanks. I don't know how you get around it, either.
Oh I bet he'll claim "We couldn't arrest him when he was president so the statute of limitations was on-hold for four years and only began running again in the post-presidency."
Posted by: ace at March 20, 2023 12:11 PM (BvUNN)
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This is the riskiest option for the regime to try.
Why? If the fraud is unbeatable, they need to do nothing.
Why? If the fraud is unbeatable, they need to do nothing.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 20, 2023 12:11 PM (eOEVl)
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38 I don't think so, I think you're being overly optimistic. I don't think you comprehend just how insane the Democrats have become, and how willing they are to risk civil war to virtue signal about how Outraged they are.
It's a GOPe-kind of thought to think, "They wouldn't dare." All they do is dare now, and we have Mitch McConnell telling us we should be reasonable and accept all this.
Posted by: ace at March 20, 2023 12:09 PM (BvUNN)
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My counter to this is the past 2 years. Merrick Garland has been AG for 2 damn years, and he hasn't charged Trump with jaywalking.
Until there are actual charges, my thinking is fundraising fodder. "We've got him! The walls are really closing in! Donate today! 5x match!"
It's a GOPe-kind of thought to think, "They wouldn't dare." All they do is dare now, and we have Mitch McConnell telling us we should be reasonable and accept all this.
Posted by: ace at March 20, 2023 12:09 PM (BvUNN)
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My counter to this is the past 2 years. Merrick Garland has been AG for 2 damn years, and he hasn't charged Trump with jaywalking.
Until there are actual charges, my thinking is fundraising fodder. "We've got him! The walls are really closing in! Donate today! 5x match!"
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 20, 2023 12:12 PM (LvTSG)
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For behold, Lord, your enemies,
how your enemies will perish,
how wrongdoers will be scattered.
You will give me strength as the wild oxen have;
I have been anointed with the purest oil.
I will look down upon my enemies,
and hear the plans of those who plot evil against me.
- Psalm 92
how your enemies will perish,
how wrongdoers will be scattered.
You will give me strength as the wild oxen have;
I have been anointed with the purest oil.
I will look down upon my enemies,
and hear the plans of those who plot evil against me.
- Psalm 92
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at March 20, 2023 12:12 PM (2Or5V)
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In a very real way, the FBI jujitusing a rash of anarchist attacks against pro-lifers into a reason to investigate pro-lifers is very similar to the J6 situation & Russia Collusion Hoax before it.
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Yup. It's a perfect state action. It's akin to the old "false flag" play where they themselves engineer the incident they use to crack down, except even easier because they use someone else's real incident to crack down on their preferred targets that had nothing to do with it and are in fact on the opposite side.
This is an insane strategy that cannot work without total control of the press. But they have that, so they're comfortable with the absurd idea.
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Yup. It's a perfect state action. It's akin to the old "false flag" play where they themselves engineer the incident they use to crack down, except even easier because they use someone else's real incident to crack down on their preferred targets that had nothing to do with it and are in fact on the opposite side.
This is an insane strategy that cannot work without total control of the press. But they have that, so they're comfortable with the absurd idea.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 20, 2023 12:12 PM (t0OGg)
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Now would be a hilariously ironic time for Jimmy Carter to die.
It would interfere with John McCain's ongoing funeral.
It would interfere with John McCain's ongoing funeral.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 20, 2023 12:12 PM (2tUFv)
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The SOL for most non violent Federal crimes is 5 years.
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two years for NYC misdemeanor. I guess also 5 years for the felony.
I mean, it's like with Binger and other leftist DA's. They're not bright. They're not there to prosecute but not prosecute. got it?
(I feel like I'm doing the "missile" meme)
so, when you get a soros DA whose job it is to not prosecute crimes to prosecute a crime, they're outside their wheelhouse.
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two years for NYC misdemeanor. I guess also 5 years for the felony.
I mean, it's like with Binger and other leftist DA's. They're not bright. They're not there to prosecute but not prosecute. got it?
(I feel like I'm doing the "missile" meme)
so, when you get a soros DA whose job it is to not prosecute crimes to prosecute a crime, they're outside their wheelhouse.
Posted by: sockamster, gator at March 20, 2023 12:12 PM (MLrvz)
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J6 was a show of raw power.
It served to both punish Trump supporters and warn away future agitators.
Anyone who would protest Trump's arrest risks the same and more.
The waters...they are uncharted.
It served to both punish Trump supporters and warn away future agitators.
Anyone who would protest Trump's arrest risks the same and more.
The waters...they are uncharted.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 20, 2023 12:12 PM (KbCG3)
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I would welcome the clarity of a hot civil war
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 20, 2023 12:12 PM (/6ur0)
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My counter to this is the past 2 years. Merrick Garland has been AG for 2 damn years, and he hasn't charged Trump with jaywalking.
Until there are actual charges, my thinking is fundraising fodder. "We've got him! The walls are really closing in! Donate today! 5x match!"
Dear God, we agree. Dogs and cats, living together...
Until there are actual charges, my thinking is fundraising fodder. "We've got him! The walls are really closing in! Donate today! 5x match!"
Dear God, we agree. Dogs and cats, living together...
Posted by: Archimedes at March 20, 2023 12:12 PM (eOEVl)
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America is dead, and I am glad about it.
Not one person in the GOP will even bat an eye about this. They will let Trump swing in the wind, because this isn't who we are.
I will never, ever vote for another GOP candidate in my lifetime. Feckless pricks.
Not one person in the GOP will even bat an eye about this. They will let Trump swing in the wind, because this isn't who we are.
I will never, ever vote for another GOP candidate in my lifetime. Feckless pricks.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at March 20, 2023 12:12 PM (d2bW3)
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Trump is also being sued by that Flake Jean Carrol for a rape she says took place in a Bergdorf fitting room. It never happened 25 years ago, there is no witness, no policie report. Claim's she told a couple people at the time. 25 years ago. Yet, Judge says the case can go forward.
And as if you didn;t guess, SDNY of coursse.
everyone just looking for a payday....
And as if you didn;t guess, SDNY of coursse.
everyone just looking for a payday....
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 20, 2023 12:13 PM (Y+l9t)
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29 Now would be a hilariously ironic time for Jimmy Carter to die.
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 20, 2023 12:07 PM (ZTAGJ)
Is it possible he's on life support and the family is waiting for the most convenient time to disconnect him? Nah, nobody would be that cynical.
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 20, 2023 12:07 PM (ZTAGJ)
Is it possible he's on life support and the family is waiting for the most convenient time to disconnect him? Nah, nobody would be that cynical.
Posted by: N. Lurker at March 20, 2023 12:13 PM (eGTCV)
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> The waters...they are uncharted.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 20, 2023 12:12 PM (KbCG3)
Nah, we've actually seen this movie before, and know how it ends.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 20, 2023 12:12 PM (KbCG3)
Nah, we've actually seen this movie before, and know how it ends.
Posted by: The Optimates Planning to Prosecute Julius Caesar at March 20, 2023 12:13 PM (bW8dp)
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59 Dear God, we agree. Dogs and cats, living together...
Posted by: Archimedes at March 20, 2023 12:12 PM (eOEVl)
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*considers mentioning Prometheus*
*thinks better of mentioning Prometheus and does not mention Prometheus*
*does own part to keep thread Prometheus free*
Posted by: Archimedes at March 20, 2023 12:12 PM (eOEVl)
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*considers mentioning Prometheus*
*thinks better of mentioning Prometheus and does not mention Prometheus*
*does own part to keep thread Prometheus free*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 20, 2023 12:13 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: rhennigantx at March 20, 2023 12:13 PM (BRHaw)
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> It would interfere with John McCain's ongoing funeral.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 20, 2023 12:12 PM (2tUFv)
Also: Pride Week.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 20, 2023 12:12 PM (2tUFv)
Also: Pride Week.
Posted by: The Optimates Planning to Prosecute Julius Caesar at March 20, 2023 12:14 PM (bW8dp)
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Why? If the fraud is unbeatable, they need to do nothing.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 20, 2023 12:11 PM (eOEVl)
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Because of the chance of a blow-up. Trump support - and, even more important, MAGA support - in this country is enormous. A play to rub into that group's psyche that they are powerless and can do nothing has the potential - very distant but real - to pop off in a way that has nothing to do with election politics.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 20, 2023 12:11 PM (eOEVl)
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Because of the chance of a blow-up. Trump support - and, even more important, MAGA support - in this country is enormous. A play to rub into that group's psyche that they are powerless and can do nothing has the potential - very distant but real - to pop off in a way that has nothing to do with election politics.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 20, 2023 12:14 PM (t0OGg)
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I think it would be interesting for New York to attempt to extradite Trump, and Florida to refuse.
I DON'T want Trump to be actually jailed in New York -- too much chance of him getting Epsteined.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at March 20, 2023 12:11 PM (bW8dp)
Which raises the million-dollar question: if push comes to shove, what will Meatball Ron do?
I'd think that if really does intend to run, he almost *has* to reject the extradition request (if he legally can), because how does he keep a good chunk of the base on his side otherwise? But I'd been thinking all along that he wouldn't run, so what do I know.
I DON'T want Trump to be actually jailed in New York -- too much chance of him getting Epsteined.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at March 20, 2023 12:11 PM (bW8dp)
Which raises the million-dollar question: if push comes to shove, what will Meatball Ron do?
I'd think that if really does intend to run, he almost *has* to reject the extradition request (if he legally can), because how does he keep a good chunk of the base on his side otherwise? But I'd been thinking all along that he wouldn't run, so what do I know.
Posted by: Dr. T at March 20, 2023 12:14 PM (jGGMD)
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now, I'm pretty sure that paying off blackmailers in NYC is not illegal.
I'm pretty sure most rich fucks do it through their lawyers or PR people.
and most of them just write checks to their lawyers without the memo stating "I was a bad boy who did no-no things with bad girls" because duh why would you. It's not imporant to anyone.
I'm pretty sure most rich fucks do it through their lawyers or PR people.
and most of them just write checks to their lawyers without the memo stating "I was a bad boy who did no-no things with bad girls" because duh why would you. It's not imporant to anyone.
Posted by: sockamster, gator at March 20, 2023 12:14 PM (MLrvz)
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"25 There will be no civil war or meaningful pushback of any kind, anywhere, from anyone. We're a long way from that time.
There will be hundreds of thousands killed, perhaps millions, but that comes *before* the pushback. Who would fight to save this country? It's dead, Jim.
People will fight to save themselves. And we're not quite there yet.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 20, 2023 12:07 PM (oINRc)"
These people - as we speak - are trying to force my kids into public institutions where they'll be lectured at about tranny insanity and exposed to freaks and pedos in the bathrooms and locker rooms.
They are releasing rapists, murderers, and thugs en-masse NOW. There is an entire office funded by the local sheriffs office, RIGHT NOW, browsing through social media posts looking for subjects to file red flag order on. Every day our careers are held hostage if we fail to properly caper around in front of fat guys in dresses that our employer hires to goose their numbers of "women."
Enough of us are there, believe me. Fuck these people.
There will be hundreds of thousands killed, perhaps millions, but that comes *before* the pushback. Who would fight to save this country? It's dead, Jim.
People will fight to save themselves. And we're not quite there yet.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 20, 2023 12:07 PM (oINRc)"
These people - as we speak - are trying to force my kids into public institutions where they'll be lectured at about tranny insanity and exposed to freaks and pedos in the bathrooms and locker rooms.
They are releasing rapists, murderers, and thugs en-masse NOW. There is an entire office funded by the local sheriffs office, RIGHT NOW, browsing through social media posts looking for subjects to file red flag order on. Every day our careers are held hostage if we fail to properly caper around in front of fat guys in dresses that our employer hires to goose their numbers of "women."
Enough of us are there, believe me. Fuck these people.
Posted by: somedood at March 20, 2023 12:14 PM (/z9fK)
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I identify as being aboard the Trump train.
Posted by: torabora at March 20, 2023 12:14 PM (OUiUM)
Posted by: MTG and McCarthy at March 20, 2023 12:14 PM (VRslY)
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*considers mentioning Prometheus*
*thinks better of mentioning Prometheus and does not mention Prometheus*
*does own part to keep thread Prometheus free*
That tears it, I'll see you at dawn with pistols.
*thinks better of mentioning Prometheus and does not mention Prometheus*
*does own part to keep thread Prometheus free*
That tears it, I'll see you at dawn with pistols.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 20, 2023 12:14 PM (eOEVl)
Posted by: sockamster, gator at March 20, 2023 12:15 PM (MLrvz)
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Is it possible he's on life support and the family is waiting for the most convenient time to disconnect him? Nah, nobody would be that cynical.
Posted by: N. Lurker at March 20, 2023 12:13 PM (eGTCV)
I know a family that kept Granny alive thru Easter then into summer for vacations and then let her die in sept after the family reunion.
Posted by: N. Lurker at March 20, 2023 12:13 PM (eGTCV)
I know a family that kept Granny alive thru Easter then into summer for vacations and then let her die in sept after the family reunion.
Posted by: rhennigantx at March 20, 2023 12:15 PM (BRHaw)
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I'll admit to not having looked into the details behind this, but I couldn't tell if this was Bragg et al threatening to arrest Trump, or people on our side saying that was what would happen.
Bragg contacted the police about a possible need for them on Tuesday. Or something. He spoke to police about this matter, which is strong indication he is getting advice about how to proceed with an arrest.
Posted by: ace at March 20, 2023 12:10 PM
And I called B$ on that the other day. He has ZERO arrest authority in Florida. He has no need to consult the NYPD because trump is not in New York and can't be arrested in New York if he isn't physically there. It is all theater.
The prosecutor intentionally started these rumors to get a reaction most likely to deflect attention away from the biden Chinese pay off scandal.
Bragg contacted the police about a possible need for them on Tuesday. Or something. He spoke to police about this matter, which is strong indication he is getting advice about how to proceed with an arrest.
Posted by: ace at March 20, 2023 12:10 PM
And I called B$ on that the other day. He has ZERO arrest authority in Florida. He has no need to consult the NYPD because trump is not in New York and can't be arrested in New York if he isn't physically there. It is all theater.
The prosecutor intentionally started these rumors to get a reaction most likely to deflect attention away from the biden Chinese pay off scandal.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 20, 2023 12:15 PM (ncXxy)
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What the fuck happened to the Never-Trump Conservatives I used to know? Where's the spirit? Where's the guts, huh? This could be the greatest witch hunt and show trial of our lives, but you're gonna let it be the worst. "Ooh, we're afraid to go with you Dr. Bone, we might get in trouble."
Well just kiss my ass from now on!
Well just kiss my ass from now on!
Posted by: Dr. Bone at March 20, 2023 12:15 PM (Jg7EG)
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clinton has prolly paid 100s of women in ark hush money
He keeps a special suite above the Clinton Library for his assignations in Little Rock.
He keeps a special suite above the Clinton Library for his assignations in Little Rock.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 20, 2023 12:15 PM (2tUFv)
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if smart phones, cable and the internets were around in the mid 19th century
there woulda never been a civil war
there woulda never been a civil war
Posted by: REDACTED at March 20, 2023 12:15 PM (us2H3)
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>>> now, I'm pretty sure that paying off blackmailers in NYC is not illegal.
I'm pretty sure most rich fucks do it through their lawyers or PR people.
of course. this happens every single day, especially in NYC. No one has ever thought to PROSECUTE THE BLACKMAIL VICTIM before now.
but of course that's the first thing this Soros DA thought to do.
I'm pretty sure most rich fucks do it through their lawyers or PR people.
of course. this happens every single day, especially in NYC. No one has ever thought to PROSECUTE THE BLACKMAIL VICTIM before now.
but of course that's the first thing this Soros DA thought to do.
Posted by: ace at March 20, 2023 12:15 PM (BvUNN)
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I know you don't want to read this, ace, but the best option for DeSantis if this goes down is to withdraw from the race and endorse Trump explicitly because of this political prosecution. He would become president-in-waiting for 2028. It won't happen, though, and while people like me who have decided to no longer participate in national elections will be drawn to the polls to oppose this madness, Trump likely would go on to be nominated and then lose the general. DeSantis would be devastated as a political force because he did not withdraw as a matter of principle whether that was real or feigned.
In fact, that penultimate sentence is driving this shitshow.
I doubt full-blown civil war erupts, though. The individual states will continue to devolve from the central government, the internal migration will accelerate, and America's rapid descent into a failed state will accelerate. It will be de facto secession for those states sane and aware enough of the current trajectory but the skinsuit of the United States will be worn by them. Violence? Probably, but not on a regular civil war order.
In fact, that penultimate sentence is driving this shitshow.
I doubt full-blown civil war erupts, though. The individual states will continue to devolve from the central government, the internal migration will accelerate, and America's rapid descent into a failed state will accelerate. It will be de facto secession for those states sane and aware enough of the current trajectory but the skinsuit of the United States will be worn by them. Violence? Probably, but not on a regular civil war order.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at March 20, 2023 12:15 PM (KSNKu)
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If they issue an arrest warrant, I'd like to see DeSantis refuse extradition and instruct Florida law enforcement to refuse to cooperate with the feds or even directly protect Trump and refuse the feds any kind of access, up to and including the arrest of federal officers.
This would do wonders for DeSantis politically and could possibly trigger a new nullification crisis.
This would do wonders for DeSantis politically and could possibly trigger a new nullification crisis.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 20, 2023 12:15 PM (t0OGg)
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Anybody contemplating protesting over this, if you get arrested, you can expect DJT to give you the same selfless generous help he gave to the J6'ers.
Posted by: Veni, Vidi, gp
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It's been discussed at length. The entire day was an op. All that had to happen was for Trump to pardon a Ray Epps and then that Ray Epps would go murder a judge, and it would be tied directly to Trump's pardon.
Heck, the dangerous insurgent that was standing right next to Ashli Babbit only got a few months probation. And John Sullivan (JADEN X!!!) didn't get sh*t, and he was in there on the other side, helpfully filming the event that he knew would occur.
It was all an op.
Posted by: Veni, Vidi, gp
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It's been discussed at length. The entire day was an op. All that had to happen was for Trump to pardon a Ray Epps and then that Ray Epps would go murder a judge, and it would be tied directly to Trump's pardon.
Heck, the dangerous insurgent that was standing right next to Ashli Babbit only got a few months probation. And John Sullivan (JADEN X!!!) didn't get sh*t, and he was in there on the other side, helpfully filming the event that he knew would occur.
It was all an op.
Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 20, 2023 12:16 PM (ZLyax)
Posted by: Tonypete at March 20, 2023 12:16 PM (OQM6D)
Posted by: Veni, Vidi, gp at March 20, 2023 12:16 PM (MvF+J)
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I don't think this is their plan per se, but with politics your plans must always be adjusting to give you the most favorable outcome.
Perhaps for the left the most favorable outcome is to set up a bloody Trump v DeSantis battle (or add fuel to it) without doing anything huge to benefit one side.
Who knows?
I'm not getting involved a fight between those two just yet. They both have my support.
Perhaps for the left the most favorable outcome is to set up a bloody Trump v DeSantis battle (or add fuel to it) without doing anything huge to benefit one side.
Who knows?
I'm not getting involved a fight between those two just yet. They both have my support.
Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at March 20, 2023 12:16 PM (sX1BW)
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>>>And I called B$ on that the other day. He has ZERO arrest authority in Florida. He has no need to consult the NYPD because trump is not in New York and can't be arrested in New York if he isn't physically there. It is all theater.
well states do extraditions. They have to. Full faith and credit clause.
well states do extraditions. They have to. Full faith and credit clause.
Posted by: ace at March 20, 2023 12:16 PM (BvUNN)
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well, welcome to America where if you're a GOP politician you need to have a billion dollars just to handle the lawfare the left throws at you.
it'd be nice if there was some way to counter this.
IDK, maybe fight back or something (legally, you donuts) but that would take a political party that cares
it'd be nice if there was some way to counter this.
IDK, maybe fight back or something (legally, you donuts) but that would take a political party that cares
Posted by: sockamster, gator at March 20, 2023 12:16 PM (MLrvz)
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"58 I would welcome the clarity of a hot civil war
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 20, 2023 12:12 PM (/6ur0)"
You should change that to "cache ammo, food, and water"
+maps, commo, optics, and singularly useful items such as fence cutters, bolt cutters, etc.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 20, 2023 12:12 PM (/6ur0)"
You should change that to "cache ammo, food, and water"
+maps, commo, optics, and singularly useful items such as fence cutters, bolt cutters, etc.
Posted by: somedood at March 20, 2023 12:16 PM (/z9fK)
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well states do extraditions. They have to. Full faith and credit clause.
Posted by: ace
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and if trump is going to run for president, he may have to travel outside of florida.
some state may be happy to service extradition.
Posted by: ace
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and if trump is going to run for president, he may have to travel outside of florida.
some state may be happy to service extradition.
Posted by: sockamster, gator at March 20, 2023 12:17 PM (MLrvz)
Posted by: REDACTED at March 20, 2023 12:17 PM (us2H3)
92
hope Trump has some amazing personal security that he can actually trust
Posted by: brak at March 20, 2023 12:17 PM (j5Tg0)
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"I will not be re-boarding the Trump Train over this, though I do feel that sense that maybe I should, just to teach the left a lesson. Or maybe I should just claim I'm back aboard."
Well, that's certainly the Fox News plan. If RDS wasn't done as a candidate over the weekend, though, he certainly is now. Not only does he have almost nothing to say about the wisdom of charging a former president over charges so flimsy that a porn star had to PAY DAMAGES in civil court, most of his problem is that the Soros prosecutor isn't charging real crimes in New York. Which isn't even relevant to the situation before him.
I wouldn't hire RDS as my lawyer, and I'm certainly not voting for him.
Well, that's certainly the Fox News plan. If RDS wasn't done as a candidate over the weekend, though, he certainly is now. Not only does he have almost nothing to say about the wisdom of charging a former president over charges so flimsy that a porn star had to PAY DAMAGES in civil court, most of his problem is that the Soros prosecutor isn't charging real crimes in New York. Which isn't even relevant to the situation before him.
I wouldn't hire RDS as my lawyer, and I'm certainly not voting for him.
Posted by: trev006 at March 20, 2023 12:17 PM (DTm0P)
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>>>2 If they issue an arrest warrant, I'd like to see DeSantis refuse extradition and instruct Florida law enforcement to refuse to cooperate with the feds or even directly protect Trump and refuse the feds any kind of access, up to and including the arrest of federal officers.
This would do wonders for DeSantis politically and could possibly trigger a new nullification crisis.
that would be great. He'd ultimately lose but it would be worth it.
It would also be a Line in the Sand stand.
This would do wonders for DeSantis politically and could possibly trigger a new nullification crisis.
that would be great. He'd ultimately lose but it would be worth it.
It would also be a Line in the Sand stand.
Posted by: ace at March 20, 2023 12:17 PM (BvUNN)
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I personally think the leaks of trump's pending arrest were a trial balloon to see what would happen. The democrats did not like the result they got. For whatever reason they thought they could isolate trump with the leaks but that backfired spectacularly.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 20, 2023 12:03 PM (ncXxy)
Agreed!
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 20, 2023 12:03 PM (ncXxy)
Agreed!
Posted by: Ilene Wright at March 20, 2023 12:17 PM (VD8D9)
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Of course, there's the other option, which should not be ruled out by any means: that they issue an arrest warrant and Trump turns himself in in the hopes of getting it over with quickly and peacefully and gaining some new material for his stump speech and platform.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 20, 2023 12:17 PM (t0OGg)
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87 well states do extraditions. They have to. Full faith and credit clause.
Posted by: ace at March 20, 2023 12:16 PM (BvUNN)
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Didn't the FBI get started in part because states refused to do extraditions?
Posted by: ace at March 20, 2023 12:16 PM (BvUNN)
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Didn't the FBI get started in part because states refused to do extraditions?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 20, 2023 12:17 PM (LvTSG)
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Alvin Bragg thought he was in the big leagues.
Alvin Bragg thought wrong.
I'm sure it wasn't all Alvin's doing tho'. He seems the type to take orders, not give'em. Alvin's also a stupid SOB.
Alvin Bragg thought wrong.
I'm sure it wasn't all Alvin's doing tho'. He seems the type to take orders, not give'em. Alvin's also a stupid SOB.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 20, 2023 12:18 PM (Q4IgG)
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> This would do wonders for DeSantis politically and could possibly trigger a new nullification crisis.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 20, 2023 12:15 PM (t0OGg)
I mentioned in the last thread that the last time I remember anything like this happening was the Orval Faubus deal in Arkansas back in the '50s.
In that case, the Arkansas National Guard decided to obey Eisenhower rather than Faubus.
Would that happen in this situation? I'm not at all sure.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 20, 2023 12:15 PM (t0OGg)
I mentioned in the last thread that the last time I remember anything like this happening was the Orval Faubus deal in Arkansas back in the '50s.
In that case, the Arkansas National Guard decided to obey Eisenhower rather than Faubus.
Would that happen in this situation? I'm not at all sure.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at March 20, 2023 12:18 PM (bW8dp)
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89 "58 I would welcome the clarity of a hot civil war
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 20, 2023 12:12 PM (/6ur0)"
You should change that to "cache ammo, food, and water"
+maps, commo, optics, and singularly useful items such as fence cutters, bolt cutters, etc.
Posted by: somedood at March 20, 2023 12:16 PM (/z9fK)
I didn't want to put a full list into my sig, but you're right. Tools are important, commo is good as is someone you trust to coordinate with...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 20, 2023 12:12 PM (/6ur0)"
You should change that to "cache ammo, food, and water"
+maps, commo, optics, and singularly useful items such as fence cutters, bolt cutters, etc.
Posted by: somedood at March 20, 2023 12:16 PM (/z9fK)
I didn't want to put a full list into my sig, but you're right. Tools are important, commo is good as is someone you trust to coordinate with...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 20, 2023 12:18 PM (/6ur0)
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Meanwhile, the prick in the White House is bragging about money he gets from China and Ukraine, and no one even bats an eye.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at March 20, 2023 12:19 PM (d2bW3)
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If they issue an arrest warrant, I'd like to see DeSantis refuse extradition and instruct Florida law enforcement to refuse to cooperate with the feds or even directly protect Trump and refuse the feds any kind of access, up to and including the arrest of federal officers.
This would do wonders for DeSantis politically and could possibly trigger a new nullification crisis.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 20, 2023 12:15 PM (t0OGg)
Would be good, but DeSanits already said Florida would not get involved.
This would do wonders for DeSantis politically and could possibly trigger a new nullification crisis.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 20, 2023 12:15 PM (t0OGg)
Would be good, but DeSanits already said Florida would not get involved.
Posted by: spypeach at March 20, 2023 12:19 PM (UuB/1)
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For whatever reason they thought they could isolate trump with the leaks but that backfired spectacularly.
Posted by: Mister Scott
It was to knock the China payments off the TV screen.
Joe looked absolutely stupid saying " it's a lie" while heading to AF1 to a shouted question.
Posted by: Mister Scott
It was to knock the China payments off the TV screen.
Joe looked absolutely stupid saying " it's a lie" while heading to AF1 to a shouted question.
Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at March 20, 2023 12:19 PM (NW9xb)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 20, 2023 12:19 PM (LvTSG)
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If they issue an arrest warrant, I'd like to see DeSantis refuse extradition
There have to be some examples of Northern states refusing extradition requests from Mississippi and Alabama during the civil rights era.
There have to be some examples of Northern states refusing extradition requests from Mississippi and Alabama during the civil rights era.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 20, 2023 12:19 PM (2tUFv)
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And I called B$ on that the other day. He has ZERO arrest authority in Florida. He has no need to consult the NYPD because trump is not in New York and can't be arrested in New York if he isn't physically there. It is all theater.
well states do extraditions. They have to. Full faith and credit clause.
Posted by: ace at March 20, 2023 12:16 PM
Ace I understand that, but they most certainly do not start extradition proceedings against people that have not yet been charged with anything and set a date for next Tuesday.
I maintain that this was an op.
well states do extraditions. They have to. Full faith and credit clause.
Posted by: ace at March 20, 2023 12:16 PM
Ace I understand that, but they most certainly do not start extradition proceedings against people that have not yet been charged with anything and set a date for next Tuesday.
I maintain that this was an op.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 20, 2023 12:19 PM (ncXxy)
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>>>
Well, that's certainly the Fox News plan. If RDS wasn't done as a candidate over the weekend, though, he certainly is now. Not only does he have almost nothing to say about the wisdom of charging a former president over charges so flimsy that a porn star had to PAY DAMAGES in civil court, most of his problem is that the Soros prosecutor isn't charging real crimes in New York. Which isn't even relevant to the situation before him.
boy you are really certain that DeSantis should go to the mat for the guy who threatened to tell things "even his wife doesn't know," huh?
What happened to "politics is a contact sport"?
I predicted that that claim would not survive very long. The moment "Shutdown Ron" hit back, the people saying "politics is a contact sport" would suddenly be talking up Reagan's 11th Commandment.
Ron DeSantis DID attack the Soros DA. Watch the video.
Well, that's certainly the Fox News plan. If RDS wasn't done as a candidate over the weekend, though, he certainly is now. Not only does he have almost nothing to say about the wisdom of charging a former president over charges so flimsy that a porn star had to PAY DAMAGES in civil court, most of his problem is that the Soros prosecutor isn't charging real crimes in New York. Which isn't even relevant to the situation before him.
boy you are really certain that DeSantis should go to the mat for the guy who threatened to tell things "even his wife doesn't know," huh?
What happened to "politics is a contact sport"?
I predicted that that claim would not survive very long. The moment "Shutdown Ron" hit back, the people saying "politics is a contact sport" would suddenly be talking up Reagan's 11th Commandment.
Ron DeSantis DID attack the Soros DA. Watch the video.
Posted by: ace at March 20, 2023 12:19 PM (BvUNN)
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There's not going to be a civil war. We'll bitch about it as usual but do nothing. Best to hunker down and try to weather the inevitable crash.
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at March 20, 2023 12:19 PM (mGabY)
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"81 I know you don't want to read this, ace, but the best option for DeSantis if this goes down is to withdraw from the race and endorse Trump explicitly because of this political prosecution. He would become president-in-waiting for 2028.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at March 20, 2023 12:15 PM (KSNKu)"
I think it would be a helpful thing to do but not because 2028 matters. We are beyond solving this electorally - Trump was a last chance to play nice and we all see how that turned out. The first time around was helpful to rip a bunch of masks off, so I would have high hopes for another go-around. If the left kicks this off too early or in an ill-considered manner they lose.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at March 20, 2023 12:15 PM (KSNKu)"
I think it would be a helpful thing to do but not because 2028 matters. We are beyond solving this electorally - Trump was a last chance to play nice and we all see how that turned out. The first time around was helpful to rip a bunch of masks off, so I would have high hopes for another go-around. If the left kicks this off too early or in an ill-considered manner they lose.
Posted by: somedood at March 20, 2023 12:19 PM (/z9fK)
Posted by: Archimedes at March 20, 2023 12:19 PM (eOEVl)
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I know you don't want to read this, ace, but the best option for DeSantis if this goes down is to withdraw from the race and endorse Trump explicitly because of this political prosecution.
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Well he hasn't officially entered the race. I think he could just give full support to Trump on this matter and just wait his time. Maybe not - his full endorsement may be necessary.
All that being said, 2028 is a long time from now. I'm a believer in striking when the iron is hot. There is no guaranty he will have a shot then. If the thinks his shot is now - he should take it.
Trump looks unbeatable and may well be if he is arrested. But longshots do win.
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Well he hasn't officially entered the race. I think he could just give full support to Trump on this matter and just wait his time. Maybe not - his full endorsement may be necessary.
All that being said, 2028 is a long time from now. I'm a believer in striking when the iron is hot. There is no guaranty he will have a shot then. If the thinks his shot is now - he should take it.
Trump looks unbeatable and may well be if he is arrested. But longshots do win.
Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at March 20, 2023 12:19 PM (sX1BW)
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cost more money to keep a ho's mouth shut than it does to open it
Posted by: REDACTED at March 20, 2023 12:20 PM (us2H3)
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Perp-walking the Don will complete the transformation of the 2024 election from being at least minimally about the future into full-on Orange Crush Vengeance.
Posted by: TarzanTurk at March 20, 2023 12:20 PM (vlolu)
Posted by: MJ at March 20, 2023 12:20 PM (zwDuR)
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When even ridiculous muppet and discredited lawyer Avenetti says they have no case...
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 20, 2023 12:20 PM (0hOvj)
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There was a recent case to demonstrate how one State has to work with another State in regards to alleged crimes.
You see in California there was this real estate millionaire who was chummy with a local prosecutor. Well he ordered a big ticket item that was made in Indiana. He flubbed a payment so the business moved his purchase further back in the queue.
Well he did not take this well so got his prosecutor friend to file charges. Which meant the Sheriff's office sent officers to Indiana.
But they had to work through the local police in order to search the business because they were outside their jurisdiction.
What was this big ticket item? A replica Adam West TV Batmobile.
You see in California there was this real estate millionaire who was chummy with a local prosecutor. Well he ordered a big ticket item that was made in Indiana. He flubbed a payment so the business moved his purchase further back in the queue.
Well he did not take this well so got his prosecutor friend to file charges. Which meant the Sheriff's office sent officers to Indiana.
But they had to work through the local police in order to search the business because they were outside their jurisdiction.
What was this big ticket item? A replica Adam West TV Batmobile.
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 20, 2023 12:20 PM (ZTAGJ)
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6 oh yeah, aside from the statute of limitations having run out and not understanding the basic words of what laws are, bang up job, Bragg
oh yeah? What is the statute of limitations on this? And how is he attempting to ignore that?
Posted by: ace at March 20, 2023 12:05 PM
The SOL for most non violent Federal crimes is 5 years.
Not sure how this idiot thinks he can get around that.
Why is a local prosecutor trying to prosecute a federal crime?
oh yeah? What is the statute of limitations on this? And how is he attempting to ignore that?
Posted by: ace at March 20, 2023 12:05 PM
The SOL for most non violent Federal crimes is 5 years.
Not sure how this idiot thinks he can get around that.
Why is a local prosecutor trying to prosecute a federal crime?
Posted by: The Cookie Man at March 20, 2023 12:20 PM (uVtfw)
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A source with knowledge of the "hush-money" investigation has confirmed to the New York Times that Rudy Giuliani lawyer Robert Costello, a former legal advisor to Michael Cohen, will be appearing before the grand jury on Monday with the sole intention of undermining Cohen's credibility.
Isn't Cohen a convicted, admitted?, perjurer? It's a big ask to try and impugn that kind of rock solid credibility.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 20, 2023 12:07 PM (z99Zw)
I'm confused on this point, if the DA is using cohen as the basis for the case against PDJT, and this new witness is going to undermine cohen, then why on earth would he bring this guy in?
is bragg TRYING to get the suit against PDJT tossed?
Isn't Cohen a convicted, admitted?, perjurer? It's a big ask to try and impugn that kind of rock solid credibility.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 20, 2023 12:07 PM (z99Zw)
I'm confused on this point, if the DA is using cohen as the basis for the case against PDJT, and this new witness is going to undermine cohen, then why on earth would he bring this guy in?
is bragg TRYING to get the suit against PDJT tossed?
Posted by: SturmToddler at March 20, 2023 12:20 PM (Mkvkw)
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"I will not be re-boarding the Trump Train over this,"
If DJT is on the ticket in Nov 2024, you will vote for him. We all will. That's a train I'm not getting off of. Better: a train off of which I shall not get.
If DJT is on the ticket in Nov 2024, you will vote for him. We all will. That's a train I'm not getting off of. Better: a train off of which I shall not get.
Posted by: Veni, Vidi, gp at March 20, 2023 12:20 PM (MvF+J)
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Murder is NYC UNSOLVED:
2003 596 294 49.3%
2004 571
2005 540
2006 596
2007 496
2008 523
2009 471
2010 536
You can assume that the year with the unsolved number and % unsolved remains ab0ut the same.
So in last 20 years they have 3000 unsolved murders but PDT is a problem.
2003 596 294 49.3%
2004 571
2005 540
2006 596
2007 496
2008 523
2009 471
2010 536
You can assume that the year with the unsolved number and % unsolved remains ab0ut the same.
So in last 20 years they have 3000 unsolved murders but PDT is a problem.
Posted by: rhennigantx at March 20, 2023 12:20 PM (BRHaw)
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and if trump is going to run for president, he may have to travel outside of florida.
I thought 2020 revealed the new Punxsutawney Strategy yielded 81 million votes?
Trump could campaign for his basement.
I thought 2020 revealed the new Punxsutawney Strategy yielded 81 million votes?
Trump could campaign for his basement.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at March 20, 2023 12:20 PM (40DMX)
Posted by: x at March 20, 2023 12:20 PM (ZBPE2)
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democrat uniparty sleaze and filth and utter lawlessness never ceases to amaze.
Posted by: It's Not Votes, It's Not Ballots, It's Ballots Countrd at March 20, 2023 12:21 PM (jV+aN)
Posted by: Auspex at March 20, 2023 12:21 PM (QarLh)
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Trump didn't start doing digs until it was becoming apparent Desantis was setting up a presidential run last October. Then the loyalty Trump thought he earned in supporting Desantis for three years was thrown away because the latter keeps getting corrupting whispers in his ear that he's the chosen one, by golly something something Ronald Reagan as if people care anymore about that.
I wonder what a nationwide book tour has to do with Desantis being focused on Florida.
I wonder what a nationwide book tour has to do with Desantis being focused on Florida.
Posted by: UwU_Power at March 20, 2023 12:21 PM (mcqqp)
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>>>Didn't the FBI get started in part because states refused to do extraditions?
i dunno. I feel like anything involving extraditions would involve the Marshals. But I don't know.
Also, I do know the FBI started as a very modest agency, the Bureau of Investigations, just investigating the small list of federal crimes. Before J. Edgar Hoover turned into into a national police force and intelligence agency.
i dunno. I feel like anything involving extraditions would involve the Marshals. But I don't know.
Also, I do know the FBI started as a very modest agency, the Bureau of Investigations, just investigating the small list of federal crimes. Before J. Edgar Hoover turned into into a national police force and intelligence agency.
Posted by: ace at March 20, 2023 12:21 PM (BvUNN)
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well states do extraditions. They have to. Full faith and credit clause.
Posted by: ace at March 20, 2023 12:16 PM (BvUNN)
They haven't always done so in practice, not even in high-profile cases. After Harper's Ferry, two of John Brown's associates ran back to their native states of Iowa and Ohio, and in both cases the governors--fellow abolitionists--refused to extradite, even when Virginia officials showed up with warrants.
Of course, the Civil War did break out a year later, so I guess you could call that a high-risk maneuver.
Posted by: ace at March 20, 2023 12:16 PM (BvUNN)
They haven't always done so in practice, not even in high-profile cases. After Harper's Ferry, two of John Brown's associates ran back to their native states of Iowa and Ohio, and in both cases the governors--fellow abolitionists--refused to extradite, even when Virginia officials showed up with warrants.
Of course, the Civil War did break out a year later, so I guess you could call that a high-risk maneuver.
Posted by: Dr. T at March 20, 2023 12:21 PM (jGGMD)
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They will arrest Trump when it is necessary to divert away from Hunter and the CCP. It is the only card they have left to derail Trump and get DeSantis.I still believe DeSantis and the DS have agreed to terms. I am 60/40 yes that it includes him winning.
Posted by: Jamaica NYC at March 20, 2023 12:22 PM (5KunV)
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I just want to throw out that DeSantis seems great. He's been Governor of a state with overwhelming legislatorial support for a bit over four years. He's done some really good things.
You know who else seemed great? W. He'd been Governor of a state with tepid legislatorial support for a bit over 10 years.
If DeSantis becomes the nominee, I'll vote for him, but Trump is my first choice... warts and all.
You know who else seemed great? W. He'd been Governor of a state with tepid legislatorial support for a bit over 10 years.
If DeSantis becomes the nominee, I'll vote for him, but Trump is my first choice... warts and all.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 20, 2023 12:22 PM (z99Zw)
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Italian trans-identifying male, Valentina Petrillo breaks record and wins 8th women’s title
👇200m F50 women’s category win at the Italian Indoor Masters Championships
The best woman athletes are MEN!
👇200m F50 women’s category win at the Italian Indoor Masters Championships
The best woman athletes are MEN!
Posted by: rhennigantx at March 20, 2023 12:22 PM (BRHaw)
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 20, 2023 12:22 PM (Vwz3I)
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There will be no "grassroots" civil war over Trump or anything else - no one is going to stick their neck out. The only way I see something like this kicking-off is full-blown state secessionary movements.
Posted by: Halfhand at March 20, 2023 12:22 PM (9fTAO)
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Nullification crises, Balkanization, possible outright secession, a failed state, etc. are the *best case scenario.*
Not likely to happen. But the best case.
A dissolved federal union and the inevitable rash of subsequent wars are better than a state-sanctioned mass murder rampage, or a civil uprising that fails to institute any kind of functioning Republic, successful or not.
If anyone erects one or more functioning Republics somewhere in the former US, they will eventually dispense with and subjugate the various tyrannies that sprout from the ashes. That's the best case.
Not likely to happen. But the best case.
A dissolved federal union and the inevitable rash of subsequent wars are better than a state-sanctioned mass murder rampage, or a civil uprising that fails to institute any kind of functioning Republic, successful or not.
If anyone erects one or more functioning Republics somewhere in the former US, they will eventually dispense with and subjugate the various tyrannies that sprout from the ashes. That's the best case.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 20, 2023 12:22 PM (oINRc)
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>>>Trump didn't start doing digs until it was becoming apparent Desantis was setting up a presidential run last October. Then the loyalty Trump thought he earned in supporting Desantis
lol, "loyalty" because one Republican supported another Republican in a single race.
Say does Trump owe DeSantis loyalty for campaigning for him in Florida or does "Trumpian loyalty" work in just one direction?
lol, "loyalty" because one Republican supported another Republican in a single race.
Say does Trump owe DeSantis loyalty for campaigning for him in Florida or does "Trumpian loyalty" work in just one direction?
Posted by: ace at March 20, 2023 12:22 PM (BvUNN)
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Chris Rock joked that former President Donald Trump was “romantic” for
allegedly paying off porn star Stormy Daniels — while calling lawmakers
“stupid” for wanting him arrested, warning it will only inflate his
popularity.
The 58-year-old funnyman addressed the expected arrest as he helped
honor Adam Sandler at the Mark Twain Prize late Sunday — directly
addressing lawmakers in the audience, including Nancy Pelosi.
‘”Are you guys really going to arrest Trump?” Rock asked the crowd,
according to the Daily Mail, which noted that several officials from the
Biden administration were in the Kennedy Center crowd.
“Do you know this is only going to make him more popular. It’s like arresting Tupac” Shakur, he quipped of the late rapper.
allegedly paying off porn star Stormy Daniels — while calling lawmakers
“stupid” for wanting him arrested, warning it will only inflate his
popularity.
The 58-year-old funnyman addressed the expected arrest as he helped
honor Adam Sandler at the Mark Twain Prize late Sunday — directly
addressing lawmakers in the audience, including Nancy Pelosi.
‘”Are you guys really going to arrest Trump?” Rock asked the crowd,
according to the Daily Mail, which noted that several officials from the
Biden administration were in the Kennedy Center crowd.
“Do you know this is only going to make him more popular. It’s like arresting Tupac” Shakur, he quipped of the late rapper.
Posted by: SMOD at March 20, 2023 12:22 PM (RHGPo)
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What Trump is being accused of -- disguising a payment that he didn't want to put in campaign finance disclosures
Did Trump pay the Go-Away with campaign funds?
Did Trump pay the Go-Away with campaign funds?
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 20, 2023 12:22 PM (yQpMk)
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Posted by: somedood at March 20, 2023 12:19 PM (/z9fK)
I don't think elections matter any longer, either. I was just gaming that out from a pro-DeSantis perspective (I am totally numb to him or anyone else, to be redundant).
I don't think elections matter any longer, either. I was just gaming that out from a pro-DeSantis perspective (I am totally numb to him or anyone else, to be redundant).
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at March 20, 2023 12:23 PM (KSNKu)
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If DJT is on the ticket in Nov 2024, you will vote for him. We all will. That's a train I'm not getting off of. Better: a train off of which I shall not get.
Off the train, get you will not.
Off the train, get you will not.
Posted by: Yoda at March 20, 2023 12:23 PM (eOEVl)
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"There's not going to be a civil war. We'll bitch about it as usual but do nothing. Best to hunker down and try to weather the inevitable crash."
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at March 20, 2023 12:19 PM (mGabY)
Ain't anything you can do about. If you're a Gov. like DeSantis you can remove them but other than that, nothing you can do except get mad.
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at March 20, 2023 12:19 PM (mGabY)
Ain't anything you can do about. If you're a Gov. like DeSantis you can remove them but other than that, nothing you can do except get mad.
Posted by: lowandslow at March 20, 2023 12:23 PM (76Foq)
Posted by: bonhomme at March 20, 2023 12:23 PM (V1QHJ)
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126 i dunno. I feel like anything involving extraditions would involve the Marshals. But I don't know.
Also, I do know the FBI started as a very modest agency, the Bureau of Investigations, just investigating the small list of federal crimes. Before J. Edgar Hoover turned into into a national police force and intelligence agency.
Posted by: ace at March 20, 2023 12:21 PM (BvUNN)
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I thought that one of the great, early expansions of power dealt with the need for catching gangsters and bootleggers who moved between states. There's no need for a larger federal response if the states are working hard on the extradition requests.
I also don't think states having to spend their resources to help their neighbors enforce theirs is in the spirit of the Constitution.
Also, I do know the FBI started as a very modest agency, the Bureau of Investigations, just investigating the small list of federal crimes. Before J. Edgar Hoover turned into into a national police force and intelligence agency.
Posted by: ace at March 20, 2023 12:21 PM (BvUNN)
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I thought that one of the great, early expansions of power dealt with the need for catching gangsters and bootleggers who moved between states. There's no need for a larger federal response if the states are working hard on the extradition requests.
I also don't think states having to spend their resources to help their neighbors enforce theirs is in the spirit of the Constitution.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 20, 2023 12:23 PM (LvTSG)
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This is a situation that calls for mortars. Lots of them.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 20, 2023 12:23 PM (8Sqzu)
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Trump did more for me and my family - and the middle/working class - than any president in decades, and endured everything he went through for nothing other than a love for America and Americans. We saw economic growth, world peace, and optimism like we haven't seen in years, and he was attacked and investigated every day by both parties and the MSM. And he still fought and accomplished all that he did, and Americans re-elected him in a landslide in 2020 to the point where the Democrats had to shut down multiple cities across time zones to dump votes into the system in order to pretend Biden was keeping up.
But f*ck him, I'm out. Too much drama.
But f*ck him, I'm out. Too much drama.
Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 20, 2023 12:23 PM (ZLyax)
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"If anyone has a problem with that dig,"
So these things are okay as long as DeSantis engages in them? I guess it's only Drumpf whos a jackass when he does it.
DeSantis is a saint who will usher in a 1000 years of conservatopia!!!!
So these things are okay as long as DeSantis engages in them? I guess it's only Drumpf whos a jackass when he does it.
DeSantis is a saint who will usher in a 1000 years of conservatopia!!!!
Posted by: Qustions that wont be answered at March 20, 2023 12:23 PM (89Sog)
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I don't think so, I think you're being overly optimistic. I don't think you comprehend just how insane the Democrats have become, and how willing they are to risk civil war to virtue signal about how Outraged they are.
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I agree. They are off the hook insane, and any perceived blowback doesn't stop people like that. They double down. They triple down.
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I agree. They are off the hook insane, and any perceived blowback doesn't stop people like that. They double down. They triple down.
Posted by: Lady in Black at March 20, 2023 12:23 PM (sVtYq)
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I'm staying onboard with what I feel is best for America. Whether it be Trump, DeSantis (if he runs) or someone else, remains to be seen. If the choice is another RINO like Bush, Romney, or McCain, I won't be fooled again to hold my nose and vote for them.
DeSantis said what he needed to say and I'm alright with that. He doesn't need to cheerlead for PDT.
If Trump is indicted/arrested - I pray that if people protest publicly, they do it smartly and don't take the bait to do anything but gather and hold signs. To take it any farther will be entree into the gaping maws of the FBI/DOJ.
DeSantis said what he needed to say and I'm alright with that. He doesn't need to cheerlead for PDT.
If Trump is indicted/arrested - I pray that if people protest publicly, they do it smartly and don't take the bait to do anything but gather and hold signs. To take it any farther will be entree into the gaping maws of the FBI/DOJ.
Posted by: Cheri at March 20, 2023 12:23 PM (oiNtH)
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I binged all of "Yellowstone" last week. I'm pulling for John Dutton in the 2024 primary. I'll settle for DJT.
Posted by: Veni, Vidi, gp at March 20, 2023 12:23 PM (MvF+J)
148
New Methodist catechism?
Woke pastor says "drag is holy" and Jesus is "God in drag"
https://bit.ly/3TqIeX7
P.S. The rationale for this is mind boggling and concerns Matthew 23:37.
Woke pastor says "drag is holy" and Jesus is "God in drag"
https://bit.ly/3TqIeX7
P.S. The rationale for this is mind boggling and concerns Matthew 23:37.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 20, 2023 12:24 PM (FVME7)
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is bragg TRYING to get the suit against PDJT tossed?
It is my opinion that they do not really want to indict Trump and get him in prison, only to continually attack and discredit him, and to give their gullible leftist base hope.
It is my opinion that they do not really want to indict Trump and get him in prison, only to continually attack and discredit him, and to give their gullible leftist base hope.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 20, 2023 12:24 PM (0hOvj)
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Why is a local prosecutor trying to prosecute a federal crime?
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there's a NY/NYC law about falsing business records. 2 year SOL. There's some bizarre machination that they felonize it because PDT and Cohen did it to commit FEC crime.
But, thanks to Edwards, even if Cohen knew FEC rules, he'd know that this is not a FEC issue.
But...Weissmann made Cohen sign plea deal statement of facts that apparently include stuff like "I am an FEC expert and I told trump this was violating the FEC and Trump said 'cohen, I command you to break the law in an effort to further break the law.'"
shit like that
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there's a NY/NYC law about falsing business records. 2 year SOL. There's some bizarre machination that they felonize it because PDT and Cohen did it to commit FEC crime.
But, thanks to Edwards, even if Cohen knew FEC rules, he'd know that this is not a FEC issue.
But...Weissmann made Cohen sign plea deal statement of facts that apparently include stuff like "I am an FEC expert and I told trump this was violating the FEC and Trump said 'cohen, I command you to break the law in an effort to further break the law.'"
shit like that
Posted by: sockamster, gator at March 20, 2023 12:24 PM (MLrvz)
151
Patriot radio hosts Alex Marlowe and Matt Boyle today observing how conservatives should not engage in any demonstrations if they arrest DJT, because we should be "smart enough not to walk into a J6 trap."
Indeed. When ass-raped in prison one should be smart enough to leave a chocolate on the rapist's pillow afterwards.
Indeed. When ass-raped in prison one should be smart enough to leave a chocolate on the rapist's pillow afterwards.
Posted by: Zek at March 20, 2023 12:24 PM (5FPX4)
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T - 5 hours 'til vernal equinox. Just 5 more hours of winter left. Sol is nearing the crossing of the celestial equator, the ascending node of the ecliptic.
T - 5 hours 'til vernal equinox. Just 5 more hours of winter left. Sol is nearing the crossing of the celestial equator, the ascending node of the ecliptic.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz) at March 20, 2023 12:24 PM (Mzdiz)
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Statute of limitations regarding the misdemeanor campaign finance issues is two years at state level , five at fed. They are trying to bootstrap the misdemeanor charges inti a felony some of which have 6 yr, depending on the charges. All of them are barred unless they're alleging some type of ongoing conspiracy which could , in theory, toll the SOL to make the time the conspiracy ends to be the starting point. It's the process that is the penalty, and Bragg is a joke.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at March 20, 2023 12:24 PM (udCMm)
Posted by: rhennigantx at March 20, 2023 12:24 PM (BRHaw)
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149 is bragg TRYING to get the suit against PDJT tossed?
It is my opinion that they do not really want to indict Trump and get him in prison, only to continually attack and discredit him, and to give their gullible leftist base hope.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 20, 2023 12:24 PM (0hOvj)
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Hopium isn't just used by conservatives.
It is my opinion that they do not really want to indict Trump and get him in prison, only to continually attack and discredit him, and to give their gullible leftist base hope.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 20, 2023 12:24 PM (0hOvj)
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Hopium isn't just used by conservatives.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 20, 2023 12:24 PM (LvTSG)
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Strange that Bragg is now allowing Costello to testify. He was going for the "I can indict a ham sandwich" approach. So I wonder if some higher powers told him to back off? (powers higher than Soros)
Or maybe McCarthy threatening to investigate what federal funds were used for this witch hunt was a factor? idk ... but even Trump seemed to think it was a done deal, so something changed.
Or maybe McCarthy threatening to investigate what federal funds were used for this witch hunt was a factor? idk ... but even Trump seemed to think it was a done deal, so something changed.
Posted by: illiniwek at March 20, 2023 12:25 PM (Cus5s)
157
If anyone erects one or more functioning Republics somewhere in the former US, they will eventually dispense with and subjugate the various tyrannies that sprout from the ashes. That's the best case.
+1
+1
Posted by: Methos at March 20, 2023 12:25 PM (kOpft)
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Trump did more for me and my family - and the middle/working class - than any president in decades, and endured everything he went through for nothing other than a love for America and Americans.
Yep. I wouldn't be retired now if not for the Trumpconomy of 2019.
Yep. I wouldn't be retired now if not for the Trumpconomy of 2019.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 20, 2023 12:25 PM (yQpMk)
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is bragg TRYING to get the suit against PDJT tossed?
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like I said, soros da's are hired to not do their job.
they can not do their job great.
they can't actually break stride and start doing law guy stuff well.
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like I said, soros da's are hired to not do their job.
they can not do their job great.
they can't actually break stride and start doing law guy stuff well.
Posted by: sockamster, gator at March 20, 2023 12:25 PM (MLrvz)
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154 Half of U.S. climate companies banked with SVB
ha
Posted by: rhennigantx at March 20, 2023 12:24 PM (BRHaw)
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"We got bailed out. Ha. Also, fuck you."
-Half of US climate companies
ha
Posted by: rhennigantx at March 20, 2023 12:24 PM (BRHaw)
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"We got bailed out. Ha. Also, fuck you."
-Half of US climate companies
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 20, 2023 12:25 PM (LvTSG)
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Bragg the DA should also be forced to change his last name, as it is the name of a famous Confederate general.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at March 20, 2023 12:25 PM (udCMm)
162
Trump has said he'd turn himself in.
Posted by: MTG and McCarthy at March 20, 2023 12:25 PM (VRslY)
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It is my opinion that they do not really want to indict Trump and get him in prison, only to continually attack and discredit him, and to give their gullible leftist base hope.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 20, 2023 12:24 PM (0hOvj)
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So, a form of failure theater.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 20, 2023 12:24 PM (0hOvj)
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So, a form of failure theater.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 20, 2023 12:25 PM (t0OGg)
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 20, 2023 12:26 PM (ZTAGJ)
Posted by: bonhomme at March 20, 2023 12:26 PM (V1QHJ)
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I'm staying onboard with what I feel is best for America. Whether it be Trump, DeSantis (if he runs) or someone else, remains to be seen. If the choice is another RINO like Bush, Romney, or McCain, I won't be fooled again to hold my nose and vote for them.
DeSantis said what he needed to say and I'm alright with that. He doesn't need to cheerlead for PDT.
If Trump is indicted/arrested - I pray that if people protest publicly, they do it smartly and don't take the bait to do anything but gather and hold signs. To take it any farther will be entree into the gaping maws of the FBI/DOJ.
Posted by: Cheri at March 20, 2023 12:23 PM (oiNtH)
I agree. Either or.
It won't matter if they protest peacefully. They will trump up charges and instill fear, which is what the anti-American thugs have been doing.
DeSantis said what he needed to say and I'm alright with that. He doesn't need to cheerlead for PDT.
If Trump is indicted/arrested - I pray that if people protest publicly, they do it smartly and don't take the bait to do anything but gather and hold signs. To take it any farther will be entree into the gaping maws of the FBI/DOJ.
Posted by: Cheri at March 20, 2023 12:23 PM (oiNtH)
I agree. Either or.
It won't matter if they protest peacefully. They will trump up charges and instill fear, which is what the anti-American thugs have been doing.
Posted by: artisanal ette at March 20, 2023 12:26 PM (uQPen)
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165 > So in last 20 years they have 3000 unsolved murders
Step one: round up everyone named Butler.
Posted by: bonhomme at March 20, 2023 12:26 PM (V1QHJ)
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Round up the usual suspects.
Step one: round up everyone named Butler.
Posted by: bonhomme at March 20, 2023 12:26 PM (V1QHJ)
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Round up the usual suspects.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 20, 2023 12:26 PM (LvTSG)
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"Ain't anything you can do about."
There are plenty of futile, stupid, and suicidal options. None seem to be a good choice yet.
There are plenty of futile, stupid, and suicidal options. None seem to be a good choice yet.
Posted by: Veni, Vidi, gp at March 20, 2023 12:26 PM (MvF+J)
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But f*ck him, I'm out. Too much drama.
Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 20, 2023 12:23 PM (ZLyax)
This equates to "he said pussy."
Really, dude?
But f*ck him, I'm out. Too much drama.
Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 20, 2023 12:23 PM (ZLyax)
This equates to "he said pussy."
Really, dude?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 20, 2023 12:26 PM (Zz0t1)
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133 Nullification crises, Balkanization, possible outright secession, a failed state, etc. are the *best case scenario.*
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Imma thinking exile of states declaring themselves Sanctuaries is called for. No Fed Funding or Military support. Declare ports and railroads Federal assets. Dittos airplanes.
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Imma thinking exile of states declaring themselves Sanctuaries is called for. No Fed Funding or Military support. Declare ports and railroads Federal assets. Dittos airplanes.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 20, 2023 12:26 PM (8Sqzu)
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If anyone has a problem with that dig,
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It just seems like it was an unwise and unneeded dig.
But I doubt in the long run it matters too much.
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It just seems like it was an unwise and unneeded dig.
But I doubt in the long run it matters too much.
Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at March 20, 2023 12:27 PM (sX1BW)
Posted by: REDACTED at March 20, 2023 12:27 PM (us2H3)
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I'm staying onboard with what I feel is best for America. Whether it be Trump, DeSantis (if he runs) or someone else, remains to be seen. If the choice is another RINO like Bush, Romney, or McCain, I won't be fooled again to hold my nose and vote for them.
DeSantis said what he needed to say and I'm alright with that. He doesn't need to cheerlead for PDT.
This is the responsible approach. It's beyond me how anyone can look at DeSantis' record and conclude he's another Romney or McCain. We're finally being given a choice of TWO good conservatives, instead of the usual ONE mealy-mouthed wimp, and people are still unhappy.
DeSantis said what he needed to say and I'm alright with that. He doesn't need to cheerlead for PDT.
This is the responsible approach. It's beyond me how anyone can look at DeSantis' record and conclude he's another Romney or McCain. We're finally being given a choice of TWO good conservatives, instead of the usual ONE mealy-mouthed wimp, and people are still unhappy.
Posted by: Yoda at March 20, 2023 12:27 PM (eOEVl)
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Will DeSantis protect Trump from arrest via State Police and National Guard, or will he hide for 5 days like he did after the Mar-A-Lago raid?
I hope he does the former, which would enhance enthusiasm for him.
I hope he does the former, which would enhance enthusiasm for him.
Posted by: ShainS -- The Abolition of The West is from Men Without Chests at March 20, 2023 12:27 PM (vniJK)
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It's about time DeSantis responded to this. He waited until it was politically pressuring him. Should have been instinct.
Posted by: artisanal ette at March 20, 2023 12:27 PM (uQPen)
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Re: Hillary...
Sorry, beyond the statute of limitations. No prosecutor wanted to pursue it.--DOJ
Sorry, beyond the statute of limitations. No prosecutor wanted to pursue it.--DOJ
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 20, 2023 12:27 PM (ynpvh)
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Oddly silent the NY Bar Associations are.
Posted by: Yoda, Esq. at March 20, 2023 12:27 PM (5FPX4)
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How do I put this delicately...?
DeSantis was ALWAYS going to run in 2024.
Trump should have won in 2020, and left DeSantis with a clear field for the populist/nationalist candidate in 2024.
But now Trump lost, and now he wants to run in *DeSantis'* year.
It's Trump who's acting out of order running in DeSantis' year to run, not the other way around.
Trump should have taken care of business in 2020.
DeSantis was ALWAYS going to run in 2024.
Trump should have won in 2020, and left DeSantis with a clear field for the populist/nationalist candidate in 2024.
But now Trump lost, and now he wants to run in *DeSantis'* year.
It's Trump who's acting out of order running in DeSantis' year to run, not the other way around.
Trump should have taken care of business in 2020.
Posted by: ace at March 20, 2023 12:28 PM (BvUNN)
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127 well states do extraditions. They have to. Full faith and credit clause.
Posted by: ace
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Ace, there is a public policy exception to the full faith and credit clause. Judgments of state courts have to be honored, still unclear about marriage despite Obergefell (plural, cousin marriages, etc.), clearest on property law.
Extradition is a tricky area and the caselaw is all over the place.
Posted by: ace
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Ace, there is a public policy exception to the full faith and credit clause. Judgments of state courts have to be honored, still unclear about marriage despite Obergefell (plural, cousin marriages, etc.), clearest on property law.
Extradition is a tricky area and the caselaw is all over the place.
Posted by: whig at March 20, 2023 12:28 PM (Bmix2)
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Thanks Sockamster re: local prosecution of federal crime. My understanding was that no campaign money was used but Trump's private money. Makes it even more ridiculous if true.
Posted by: The Cookie Man at March 20, 2023 12:28 PM (uVtfw)
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Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 20, 2023 12:26 PM (Zz0t1)
I think your sarcasm detector prolly needs recalibration.
I think your sarcasm detector prolly needs recalibration.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at March 20, 2023 12:28 PM (40DMX)
Posted by: Joe Biden at March 20, 2023 12:28 PM (63Dwl)
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So, a form of failure theater.
In a sense, yeah. They know it only helps Trump if the guy is arrested and honestly are scared people will go nuts if they do so. But they also know that teasing it and giving the wokesters hope keeps them active, outraged, and donating money.
Its a tough line to walk, though, because eventually when nothing keeps happening, people will see through it.
In a sense, yeah. They know it only helps Trump if the guy is arrested and honestly are scared people will go nuts if they do so. But they also know that teasing it and giving the wokesters hope keeps them active, outraged, and donating money.
Its a tough line to walk, though, because eventually when nothing keeps happening, people will see through it.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 20, 2023 12:28 PM (0hOvj)
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Not going to be on the Trump Train, heh Ace?
Fine by me, just be prepared to watch the G.O.P. and Conservative Inc NEVER win another election again. They won't have my vote, nor the votes of tens of millions who still acknowledge the fucking sham that was the 2020 election!
If we can't have our President Trump, the Republicans will have NOTHING. Mark my words. 😡
Fine by me, just be prepared to watch the G.O.P. and Conservative Inc NEVER win another election again. They won't have my vote, nor the votes of tens of millions who still acknowledge the fucking sham that was the 2020 election!
If we can't have our President Trump, the Republicans will have NOTHING. Mark my words. 😡
Posted by: Tracy at March 20, 2023 12:28 PM (KPPbj)
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161 "Summabitch, I'm related by blood to ol' Braxton."
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at March 20, 2023 12:28 PM (lz5hY)
Posted by: redridinghood at March 20, 2023 12:28 PM (NpAcC)
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"Trump has said he'd turn himself in."
If Braggs, is that his name?, gives him that option. I doubt it, they want the arrest public, in FL.
If Braggs, is that his name?, gives him that option. I doubt it, they want the arrest public, in FL.
Posted by: lowandslow at March 20, 2023 12:28 PM (76Foq)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 20, 2023 12:29 PM (0hOvj)
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>>>It just seems like it was an unwise and unneeded dig.
what has Trump done to earn the level of full-throated support that Trump supporters demand? He's attacked him every single week since last December.
what has Trump done to earn the level of full-throated support that Trump supporters demand? He's attacked him every single week since last December.
Posted by: ace at March 20, 2023 12:29 PM (BvUNN)
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The FBI is firmly in control and daring anyone to do anything. If nobody does anything, they will invent something.
Probably badmouthing the FBI gets one added to a list of foreign agents and enemies of the people? One can hope.
Probably badmouthing the FBI gets one added to a list of foreign agents and enemies of the people? One can hope.
Posted by: PG at March 20, 2023 12:29 PM (84jHt)
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Oops
Posted by: Archimedes = Yoda at March 20, 2023 12:29 PM (eOEVl)
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178 Trump should have taken care of business in 2020.
Posted by: ace at March 20, 2023 12:28 PM (BvUNN)
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Will there be a material difference in how the GOP addresses the "fortifying" of elections in 2024 with either candidate?
Posted by: ace at March 20, 2023 12:28 PM (BvUNN)
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Will there be a material difference in how the GOP addresses the "fortifying" of elections in 2024 with either candidate?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 20, 2023 12:29 PM (LvTSG)
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Ron DeSantis DID attack the Soros DA. Watch the video.
Posted by: ace at March 20, 2023 12:19 PM (BvUNN)
"most of his problem is that the Soros prosecutor isn't charging real crimes in New York. Which isn't even relevant to the situation before him."
RDS thinks he can generally attack the Soros tool without actually addressing the situation at hand. The GOP consultant advice would be for RDS to ignore how flimsy the indictment is and hope no one notices.
But no, he had to be a clever boy, and now Everyone Notices.
Posted by: ace at March 20, 2023 12:19 PM (BvUNN)
"most of his problem is that the Soros prosecutor isn't charging real crimes in New York. Which isn't even relevant to the situation before him."
RDS thinks he can generally attack the Soros tool without actually addressing the situation at hand. The GOP consultant advice would be for RDS to ignore how flimsy the indictment is and hope no one notices.
But no, he had to be a clever boy, and now Everyone Notices.
Posted by: trev006 at March 20, 2023 12:29 PM (DTm0P)
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Stunningly, the Polish Ambassador to France Jan Emeryk Rościszewski said yesterday: “Either Ukraine will defend its independence today, or we will be forced to enter into this conflict,” sending a clear message that NATO will enter the war against Russia if Ukraine loses ground.
https://tinyurl.com/4ebk63dt
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Xi joins Putin in Russia in an even greater show of solidarity
https://tinyurl.com/4aexwbmd
https://tinyurl.com/4ebk63dt
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Xi joins Putin in Russia in an even greater show of solidarity
https://tinyurl.com/4aexwbmd
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at March 20, 2023 12:29 PM (2Or5V)
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EITHER "POLITICS IS A CONTACT SPORT" OR IT'S NOT
EITHER "POLITICS IS A CONTACT SPORT" OR IT'S NOT
Posted by: ace at March 20, 2023 12:29 PM (BvUNN)
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I think it would be interesting for New York to attempt to extradite Trump, and Florida to refuse.
I DON'T want Trump to be actually jailed in New York -- too much chance of him getting Epsteined.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at March 20, 2023 12:11 PM (bW8dp)
My wife was wondering how the secret service would handle this. I told her they'd let them take him and go back to counting the days until their pensions vest.
I DON'T want Trump to be actually jailed in New York -- too much chance of him getting Epsteined.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at March 20, 2023 12:11 PM (bW8dp)
My wife was wondering how the secret service would handle this. I told her they'd let them take him and go back to counting the days until their pensions vest.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 20, 2023 12:29 PM (z99Zw)
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Seeing as how my vote is an academic excersize anyway, Maryland, I am fully on board with Trump. No one else will get my vote and if her isn't on the ballot I am staying home.
Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at March 20, 2023 12:29 PM (flINI)
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People today do not have time for a civil war. Between work, ex spouses, baby daddies, baby mommas, trannys around every corner, being called "rayciss" and "sexiss" and trying to watch what is on netflix and tiktok while surfing pron is just too much.
The only folks with time on their hands are federal employees, and they ain't upsetting their apple cart of sloth and gluttony.
The only folks with time on their hands are federal employees, and they ain't upsetting their apple cart of sloth and gluttony.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 20, 2023 12:29 PM (OgB1i)
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The SOL for most non violent Federal crimes is 5 years.
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Shit Outta Luck??
Posted by: andycanuck
It's a BFD!
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Shit Outta Luck??
Posted by: andycanuck
It's a BFD!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 20, 2023 12:29 PM (FVME7)
200
I think your sarcasm detector prolly needs recalibration.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at March 20, 2023 12:28 PM (40DMX)
He wears flip-flops. He can't appreciate sarcasm.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at March 20, 2023 12:28 PM (40DMX)
He wears flip-flops. He can't appreciate sarcasm.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 20, 2023 12:30 PM (XIJ/X)
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>>>-
Ace, there is a public policy exception to the full faith and credit clause. Judgments of state courts have to be honored, still unclear about marriage despite Obergefell (plural, cousin marriages, etc.), clearest on property law.
ah okay, I dunno about that.
Ace, there is a public policy exception to the full faith and credit clause. Judgments of state courts have to be honored, still unclear about marriage despite Obergefell (plural, cousin marriages, etc.), clearest on property law.
ah okay, I dunno about that.
Posted by: ace at March 20, 2023 12:30 PM (BvUNN)
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180 Thanks Sockamster re: local prosecution of federal crime. My understanding was that no campaign money was used but Trump's private money. Makes it even more ridiculous if true.
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there's a way to read fec rules (we did this a few years back on another trump lawfare thing) is that all money is campaign money.
that's too stupid to be true so there are exceptions, even if the dumbass law doesn't say so.
so, things you'd normally do wouldn't be campaign funds.
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there's a way to read fec rules (we did this a few years back on another trump lawfare thing) is that all money is campaign money.
that's too stupid to be true so there are exceptions, even if the dumbass law doesn't say so.
so, things you'd normally do wouldn't be campaign funds.
Posted by: sockamster, gator at March 20, 2023 12:30 PM (MLrvz)
203
" if smart phones, cable and the internets were around in the mid 19th century
there woulda never been a civil war
Posted by: REDACTED"
The picture of Abe Lincoln in bed with another man would have ended his career as a politician.
there woulda never been a civil war
Posted by: REDACTED"
The picture of Abe Lincoln in bed with another man would have ended his career as a politician.
Posted by: fd at March 20, 2023 12:30 PM (iayUP)
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Trump should have won in 2020, and left DeSantis with a clear field for the populist/nationalist candidate in 2024.
But now Trump lost, and now he wants to run in *DeSantis'* year.
It's Trump who's acting out of order running in DeSantis' year to run, not the other way around.
Trump should have taken care of business in 2020.
Just a heads up, Ace, but that last statement may be a matter of controversy.
But now Trump lost, and now he wants to run in *DeSantis'* year.
It's Trump who's acting out of order running in DeSantis' year to run, not the other way around.
Trump should have taken care of business in 2020.
Just a heads up, Ace, but that last statement may be a matter of controversy.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 20, 2023 12:31 PM (eOEVl)
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156 Strange that Bragg is now allowing Costello to testify. He was going for the "I can indict a ham sandwich" approach. So I wonder if some higher powers told him to back off? (powers higher than Soros)
Or maybe McCarthy threatening to investigate what federal funds were used for this witch hunt was a factor? idk ... but even Trump seemed to think it was a done deal, so something changed.
Posted by: illiniwek
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There was a book published in 2020 that detailed people like Cohen as fixers, etc. and Cohen waived atty client privilege so that Cohen's legal rep, Costello could be interviewed for the book and talk about Cohen. This was when Cohen thought he hit the jackpot and would become somebody after Trump's surprise victory.
Prosecutors were apparently unaware of the book's existence along with Costello's role in it and apparently Cohen told Costello something very different about how the payout went down.
Or maybe McCarthy threatening to investigate what federal funds were used for this witch hunt was a factor? idk ... but even Trump seemed to think it was a done deal, so something changed.
Posted by: illiniwek
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There was a book published in 2020 that detailed people like Cohen as fixers, etc. and Cohen waived atty client privilege so that Cohen's legal rep, Costello could be interviewed for the book and talk about Cohen. This was when Cohen thought he hit the jackpot and would become somebody after Trump's surprise victory.
Prosecutors were apparently unaware of the book's existence along with Costello's role in it and apparently Cohen told Costello something very different about how the payout went down.
Posted by: whig at March 20, 2023 12:31 PM (Bmix2)
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I think your sarcasm detector prolly needs recalibration.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at March 20, 2023 12:28 PM (40DMX)
Could be. I was on vacation last week, so I'm rusty.
I think your sarcasm detector prolly needs recalibration.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at March 20, 2023 12:28 PM (40DMX)
Could be. I was on vacation last week, so I'm rusty.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 20, 2023 12:31 PM (Zz0t1)
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Candidates taking digs at each other doesn't matter to me.
Its how candidates react that matters. Donald and Ron roll with them.
Joey Bidet and Hillary Clinton, they start plotting ways to destroy you.
Its how candidates react that matters. Donald and Ron roll with them.
Joey Bidet and Hillary Clinton, they start plotting ways to destroy you.
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 20, 2023 12:31 PM (ZTAGJ)
Posted by: sockamster, gator at March 20, 2023 12:31 PM (MLrvz)
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In fact, her DC political lawyers were just used as cleanskins..
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A reference to the NFL Washington Cleanskins?
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A reference to the NFL Washington Cleanskins?
Posted by: Chuck Martel at March 20, 2023 12:31 PM (fs1hN)
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DeSantis was ALWAYS going to run in 2024.
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If he wants to be President (and I'm sure he does), then he almost has to. Hard to see when he will ever have more political pull.
But he does have a tough hill to climb.
He could join the Trump ticket. If Trump loses in 2024, DeSantis could run again in 2028 - without Trump's support. Not sure what that would mean then.
Trump only having a one-term option does create some unique things that we don't typically see.
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If he wants to be President (and I'm sure he does), then he almost has to. Hard to see when he will ever have more political pull.
But he does have a tough hill to climb.
He could join the Trump ticket. If Trump loses in 2024, DeSantis could run again in 2028 - without Trump's support. Not sure what that would mean then.
Trump only having a one-term option does create some unique things that we don't typically see.
Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at March 20, 2023 12:31 PM (sX1BW)
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There will not be a civil war. The main reason that the J6 attendees are still locked up is that they are being used as an example. Yes, it is a threat. You do any type of protesting over a Trump arrest, you can be sure you'll be tossed into the D.C. dungeon and the keys thrown away. They will harass your family, your friends, your baby-sitter, your veterinarian.
Posted by: washrivergal at March 20, 2023 12:31 PM (5MGmV)
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Trump did more for me and my family - and the middle/working class - than any president in decades, and endured everything he went through for nothing other than a love for America and Americans. We saw economic growth, world peace, and optimism like we haven't seen in years, and he was attacked and investigated every day by both parties and the MSM. And he still fought and accomplished all that he did, and Americans re-elected him in a landslide in 2020 to the point where the Democrats had to shut down multiple cities across time zones to dump votes into the system in order to pretend Biden was keeping up.
But f*ck him, I'm out. Too much drama.
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This equates to "he said pussy."
Really, dude?
Posted by: Sponge
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Oh goodness no. That last bit was a joke. I don't thing an (R) has a path to victory, but I'll be voting for old time's sake. Broken glass and nails and rabid dogs and whatever else.
But f*ck him, I'm out. Too much drama.
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This equates to "he said pussy."
Really, dude?
Posted by: Sponge
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Oh goodness no. That last bit was a joke. I don't thing an (R) has a path to victory, but I'll be voting for old time's sake. Broken glass and nails and rabid dogs and whatever else.
Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 20, 2023 12:31 PM (ZLyax)
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@172
>>doubt serious Ron even gets in
As has been noted, there is no rationale for a DeSantis run in 24, NONE!.
But if he sees fit to attempt to abandon his state for The Capital city, a capital city where he was already a useless and pointless congressman, to note, he was a charter and founding member of the Freedom Caucus, you know that Freedom Caucus that has given us all of this freedom we are basking in, I look forward to him being blasted off of the debate stage by Trump, getting 10 percent of the primary vote and being out of the race before Super Tuesday.
>>doubt serious Ron even gets in
As has been noted, there is no rationale for a DeSantis run in 24, NONE!.
But if he sees fit to attempt to abandon his state for The Capital city, a capital city where he was already a useless and pointless congressman, to note, he was a charter and founding member of the Freedom Caucus, you know that Freedom Caucus that has given us all of this freedom we are basking in, I look forward to him being blasted off of the debate stage by Trump, getting 10 percent of the primary vote and being out of the race before Super Tuesday.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 20, 2023 12:31 PM (XFPre)
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Maybe Bragg is just another dumbfvck crooked politician who did something dumb to try to score political points and it has blown up in his and the other crooks' faces.
Posted by: davidt at March 20, 2023 12:32 PM (SYTee)
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Trump should have taken care of business in 2020.
Posted by: ace
Like the Corleones leaving New York.
Posted by: ace
Like the Corleones leaving New York.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 20, 2023 12:32 PM (FVME7)
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at March 20, 2023 12:32 PM (2Or5V)
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Decoding the naughts in statements reads like ballot referendums which is why even the boiled down 'vote yes on 2' depends on which liar did the boiling.
We need more whereas usage.
We need more whereas usage.
Posted by: micky at March 20, 2023 12:32 PM (3byMq)
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DeSantis was ALWAYS going to run in 2024.
Trump should have won in 2020, and left DeSantis with a clear field for the populist/nationalist candidate in 2024.
But now Trump lost, and now he wants to run in *DeSantis'* year.
It's Trump who's acting out of order running in DeSantis' year to run, not the other way around.
Trump should have taken care of business in 2020.
Posted by: ace at March 20, 2023 12:28 PM (BvUNN)
I don't see it that way at all. Trump did win in 2020, he should be treated as the incumbent, but instead everyone wants to primary him, which says they either don't care that the election was stolen, or they don't think the election was stolen and that Trump actually lost. DeSantis should have endorsed Trump this time around and let him finish being the wrecking ball, paving the way for an 8 year DeSantis Term.
Trump should have won in 2020, and left DeSantis with a clear field for the populist/nationalist candidate in 2024.
But now Trump lost, and now he wants to run in *DeSantis'* year.
It's Trump who's acting out of order running in DeSantis' year to run, not the other way around.
Trump should have taken care of business in 2020.
Posted by: ace at March 20, 2023 12:28 PM (BvUNN)
I don't see it that way at all. Trump did win in 2020, he should be treated as the incumbent, but instead everyone wants to primary him, which says they either don't care that the election was stolen, or they don't think the election was stolen and that Trump actually lost. DeSantis should have endorsed Trump this time around and let him finish being the wrecking ball, paving the way for an 8 year DeSantis Term.
Posted by: spypeach at March 20, 2023 12:32 PM (UuB/1)
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178 How do I put this delicately...?
DeSantis was ALWAYS going to run in 2024.
Trump should have won in 2020, and left DeSantis with a clear field for the populist/nationalist candidate in 2024.
But now Trump lost, and now he wants to run in *DeSantis'* year.
It's Trump who's acting out of order running in DeSantis' year to run, not the other way around.
Trump should have taken care of business in 2020.
Posted by: ace at March 20, 2023 12:28 PM (BvUNN)
DeSantis wouldn't have been presumptive in 2024 if Trump were still President. Likely would've been someone in the Trump administration.
Besides, the GOP doesn't really operate like that, otherwise we would've been running Jeb in 2016.
DeSantis was ALWAYS going to run in 2024.
Trump should have won in 2020, and left DeSantis with a clear field for the populist/nationalist candidate in 2024.
But now Trump lost, and now he wants to run in *DeSantis'* year.
It's Trump who's acting out of order running in DeSantis' year to run, not the other way around.
Trump should have taken care of business in 2020.
Posted by: ace at March 20, 2023 12:28 PM (BvUNN)
DeSantis wouldn't have been presumptive in 2024 if Trump were still President. Likely would've been someone in the Trump administration.
Besides, the GOP doesn't really operate like that, otherwise we would've been running Jeb in 2016.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 20, 2023 12:32 PM (eYoxG)
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EITHER "POLITICS IS A CONTACT SPORT" OR IT'S NOT
Posted by: ace at March 20, 2023 12:29 PM (BvUNN)
Get with the program Ace. Either you ululate with joy at every one of Trump's utterances, or you are a fucking commie GOPe New World Order sellout who should be stoned in the public square.
Posted by: ace at March 20, 2023 12:29 PM (BvUNN)
Get with the program Ace. Either you ululate with joy at every one of Trump's utterances, or you are a fucking commie GOPe New World Order sellout who should be stoned in the public square.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 20, 2023 12:32 PM (XIJ/X)
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I thought it was proven back during the back stabbing lying fuck Michael Cohen trial, they determined that Trump paid the whore with personal funds, not campaign money.........
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 20, 2023 12:32 PM (Zz0t1)
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I mentioned in the last thread that the last time I remember anything like this happening was the Orval Faubus deal in Arkansas back in the '50s.
In that case, the Arkansas National Guard decided to obey Eisenhower rather than Faubus.
Would that happen in this situation? I'm not at all sure.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at March 20, 2023 12:18 PM (bW8dp)
But in that case, Faubus was opposing the Feds, directly. In this instance, Bragg is a crooked DA in New York City, trying to arrest a resident of Florida. Feds are on the sidelines in any official capacity.
In that case, the Arkansas National Guard decided to obey Eisenhower rather than Faubus.
Would that happen in this situation? I'm not at all sure.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at March 20, 2023 12:18 PM (bW8dp)
But in that case, Faubus was opposing the Feds, directly. In this instance, Bragg is a crooked DA in New York City, trying to arrest a resident of Florida. Feds are on the sidelines in any official capacity.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 20, 2023 12:32 PM (tkR6S)
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211 There will not be a civil war. The main reason that the J6 attendees are still locked up is that they are being used as an example. Yes, it is a threat. You do any type of protesting over a Trump arrest, you can be sure you'll be tossed into the D.C. dungeon and the keys thrown away. They will harass your family, your friends, your baby-sitter, your veterinarian.
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Maybe its time to storm the Bastille? Just a thought.
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Maybe its time to storm the Bastille? Just a thought.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 20, 2023 12:32 PM (8Sqzu)
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what has Trump done to earn the level of full-throated support that Trump supporters demand? He's attacked him every single week since last December.
Posted by: ace at March 20, 2023 12:29 PM (BvUNN)
Which evidently got to RDS. It's not about specifically defending Trump, it's about addressing Soros prosecutors and their absurd pursuits across state lines. He doesn't even have to grandstand: just talk about the civil case and how it raises Concerns for extraditing people on criminal charges.
But RDS chose the gutless route, and now he's done. This is super depressing for pals of Hot Air who have to feign being aligned with MAGA to stay relevant, but it's true.
Posted by: ace at March 20, 2023 12:29 PM (BvUNN)
Which evidently got to RDS. It's not about specifically defending Trump, it's about addressing Soros prosecutors and their absurd pursuits across state lines. He doesn't even have to grandstand: just talk about the civil case and how it raises Concerns for extraditing people on criminal charges.
But RDS chose the gutless route, and now he's done. This is super depressing for pals of Hot Air who have to feign being aligned with MAGA to stay relevant, but it's true.
Posted by: trev006 at March 20, 2023 12:32 PM (DTm0P)
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First Republic Bank's shares are now halted on the exchange.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 20, 2023 12:33 PM (lTGtQ)
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I like how everyone's like "Cohen's a fixer" because they watched an episode of suits or michael clayton.
yeah, I watched the wire. so I understand beeing a stick up man, I rips and robs.
yeah, I watched the wire. so I understand beeing a stick up man, I rips and robs.
Posted by: sockamster, gator at March 20, 2023 12:33 PM (MLrvz)
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“VFR results are 0.13% (0.05%-0.21%, 95% confidence interval) in The Netherlands and 0.35% (0.15%-0.55%) in Europe, substantially transcending covid IFR.”
VFR = Vaccine Fatality Rate, IFR = Infection Fatality Rate
Zero point 35 percent = 3.5 per thousand, which is half-way between 3 and 4 dead per thousand.
“..covid IFR is in the order of 0.1%..”
.35 3X> .1
VFR = Vaccine Fatality Rate, IFR = Infection Fatality Rate
Zero point 35 percent = 3.5 per thousand, which is half-way between 3 and 4 dead per thousand.
“..covid IFR is in the order of 0.1%..”
.35 3X> .1
Posted by: rhennigantx at March 20, 2023 12:33 PM (BRHaw)
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Oh goodness no. That last bit was a joke. I don't thing an (R) has a path to victory, but I'll be voting for old time's sake. Broken glass and nails and rabid dogs and whatever else.
Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 20, 2023 12:31 PM (ZLyax)
Ya got me. Good one. My mouth was open, too.
Oh goodness no. That last bit was a joke. I don't thing an (R) has a path to victory, but I'll be voting for old time's sake. Broken glass and nails and rabid dogs and whatever else.
Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 20, 2023 12:31 PM (ZLyax)
Ya got me. Good one. My mouth was open, too.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 20, 2023 12:33 PM (Zz0t1)
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I like "Meatball Ron". Upon further analysis, I believe this is because I like both meatballs and Ron.
Posted by: Milquetoast Mortgage-Paying Neighbor in Flyover Country at March 20, 2023 12:33 PM (5C4od)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 20, 2023 12:33 PM (63Dwl)
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alright, I think this is a bad time for me to fight the DeSantis/Trump fight, given that Trump supporters are justifiably emotional about this latest outrageous weaponization of government.
I'm outraged about it myself.
But... I'm sick of this claim that Trump can attack DeSantis because DeSantis isn't "loyal" to a MAN HE BARELY KNOWS and DeSantis can't hit back because of this strange concept of loyalty.
I don't know about you guys, but I don't have "loyalty" to near-strangers.
Trump is a transactional guy. Having a Republican in control of Florida helped Trump. And it's just normal to support politically-sympatico politicians.
It wasn't some kind of compassion for DeSantis. It was a transactional thing and just a normal thing. But people want to pretend that Trump is the Godfather and he made Ron a "made man" just because he loved him or something.
It's so ass-backwards.
I'm outraged about it myself.
But... I'm sick of this claim that Trump can attack DeSantis because DeSantis isn't "loyal" to a MAN HE BARELY KNOWS and DeSantis can't hit back because of this strange concept of loyalty.
I don't know about you guys, but I don't have "loyalty" to near-strangers.
Trump is a transactional guy. Having a Republican in control of Florida helped Trump. And it's just normal to support politically-sympatico politicians.
It wasn't some kind of compassion for DeSantis. It was a transactional thing and just a normal thing. But people want to pretend that Trump is the Godfather and he made Ron a "made man" just because he loved him or something.
It's so ass-backwards.
Posted by: ace at March 20, 2023 12:33 PM (BvUNN)
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I know that no Moron cares about my opinion but, I have to say that I weary of both the EverTrumpers and the NeverTrumpers.
Especially the ones who say the same thing every single fucking day as if they believe it is an incantation.
Especially the ones who say the same thing every single fucking day as if they believe it is an incantation.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 20, 2023 12:33 PM (yQpMk)
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Trump has said he'd turn himself in.
Posted by: MTG and McCarthy at March 20, 2023 12:25 PM (VRslY)
He has? I hadn't seen that. If so, that might explain why DeSantis didn't go further in his remarks.
Posted by: MTG and McCarthy at March 20, 2023 12:25 PM (VRslY)
He has? I hadn't seen that. If so, that might explain why DeSantis didn't go further in his remarks.
Posted by: Dr. T at March 20, 2023 12:34 PM (jGGMD)
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Hey Sponge. : )
Hope you enjoyed your vacation.
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at March 20, 2023 12:32 PM (2Or5V)
First part was good, second part, not so much.
But thanks!
Hope you enjoyed your vacation.
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at March 20, 2023 12:32 PM (2Or5V)
First part was good, second part, not so much.
But thanks!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 20, 2023 12:34 PM (Zz0t1)
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now, I'm pretty sure that paying off blackmailers in NYC is not illegal.
I'm pretty sure most rich fucks do it through their lawyers or PR people.
and most of them just write checks to their lawyers without the memo stating "I was a bad boy who did no-no things with bad girls" because duh why would you. It's not imporant to anyone.
Posted by: sockamster, gator at March 20, 2023 12:14 PM (MLrvz)
One thing I find interesting is that people seem to automatically assume that notorious germaphobe Trump actually had sex with a woman who:
a. Was, at her peak, significantly less attractive than the other women he's had AND
b. Has had more cock run through her than most barnyards.
I'm pretty sure most rich fucks do it through their lawyers or PR people.
and most of them just write checks to their lawyers without the memo stating "I was a bad boy who did no-no things with bad girls" because duh why would you. It's not imporant to anyone.
Posted by: sockamster, gator at March 20, 2023 12:14 PM (MLrvz)
One thing I find interesting is that people seem to automatically assume that notorious germaphobe Trump actually had sex with a woman who:
a. Was, at her peak, significantly less attractive than the other women he's had AND
b. Has had more cock run through her than most barnyards.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 20, 2023 12:34 PM (z99Zw)
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I watched, "It Happened One Night" I recorded from TCM. The blue print for RomComs the last 90 years.
I'm not a big Clark Gable fan, but a great movie.
I'm not a big Clark Gable fan, but a great movie.
Posted by: Archer at March 20, 2023 12:34 PM (gmo/4)
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>>>It just seems like it was an unwise and unneeded dig.
what has Trump done to earn the level of full-throated support that Trump supporters demand? He's attacked him every single week since last December.
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Ace - I don't disagree with what you said. I still think it was an unnecessary dig. I don't know what if anything he gained except to signal that he will throw punches. Maybe that was worth it. Maybe it doesn't really matter. Many of the Trump full supporters are against DeSantis no matter what.
what has Trump done to earn the level of full-throated support that Trump supporters demand? He's attacked him every single week since last December.
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Ace - I don't disagree with what you said. I still think it was an unnecessary dig. I don't know what if anything he gained except to signal that he will throw punches. Maybe that was worth it. Maybe it doesn't really matter. Many of the Trump full supporters are against DeSantis no matter what.
Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at March 20, 2023 12:34 PM (sX1BW)
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>>>cost more money to keep a ho's mouth shut than it does to open it
Posted by: REDACTED
>Precisely. What would Stormy normally charge for a blowjob? What percentage does the DA get for pimping Stormy?
Posted by: REDACTED
>Precisely. What would Stormy normally charge for a blowjob? What percentage does the DA get for pimping Stormy?
Posted by: Dr. Bone at March 20, 2023 12:34 PM (Jg7EG)
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Xi joins Putin in Russia in an even greater show of solidarity
Three day visit. Substantive discussions.
Not just a Zelensky-style meet and greet with the fake air raid sirens going off.
Three day visit. Substantive discussions.
Not just a Zelensky-style meet and greet with the fake air raid sirens going off.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 20, 2023 12:34 PM (2tUFv)
Posted by: ace at March 20, 2023 12:34 PM (BvUNN)
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I don't think Desantis was "always" going to run.
But once you pick up Dade county liberals bc you're doing the best job a governor has ever done, you start looking higher.
But once you pick up Dade county liberals bc you're doing the best job a governor has ever done, you start looking higher.
Posted by: sockamster, gator at March 20, 2023 12:34 PM (MLrvz)
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what has Trump done to earn the level of full-throated support that Trump supporters demand? He's attacked him every single week since last December.
Posted by: ace
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I don't demand anything, but as was mentioned above, I'll vote for whoever is best for America,* but I am fine supporting Trump because of all he went through for us. It's the least I can do.
Trump/Desantis and Desantis in 2028 could possibly prevent the inevitable. Or it might make the Democrats take the next step that they've been trying to goad conservatives into since 2020.
* Pence will not get my vote
Posted by: ace
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I don't demand anything, but as was mentioned above, I'll vote for whoever is best for America,* but I am fine supporting Trump because of all he went through for us. It's the least I can do.
Trump/Desantis and Desantis in 2028 could possibly prevent the inevitable. Or it might make the Democrats take the next step that they've been trying to goad conservatives into since 2020.
* Pence will not get my vote
Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 20, 2023 12:34 PM (k1L5r)
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hah, if the "full faith and credit clause" were worth anything, my CCL would be good in all 50 states.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - we are being gaslighted 24/365 at March 20, 2023 12:34 PM (QNv15)
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223 Maybe its time to storm the Bastille? Just a thought.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 20, 2023 12:32 PM (8Sqzu)
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FALSE.
The Bastille was destroyed in July of 1789, and there now only stands a spire in the middle of a street to mark its placement in Paris.
The Bastille cannot be stormed.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 20, 2023 12:32 PM (8Sqzu)
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FALSE.
The Bastille was destroyed in July of 1789, and there now only stands a spire in the middle of a street to mark its placement in Paris.
The Bastille cannot be stormed.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 20, 2023 12:34 PM (LvTSG)
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"Trump has said he'd turn himself in."
He needs to do the AOC imaginary handcuff histrionics. Comedy gold!
He needs to do the AOC imaginary handcuff histrionics. Comedy gold!
Posted by: Archimedes at March 20, 2023 12:34 PM (eOEVl)
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“VFR results are 0.13% (0.05%-0.21%, 95% confidence interval) in The Netherlands and 0.35% (0.15%-0.55%) in Europe, substantially transcending covid IFR.”
VFR = Vaccine Fatality Rate, IFR = Infection Fatality Rate
Zero point 35 percent = 3.5 per thousand, which is half-way between 3 and 4 dead per thousand.
“..covid IFR is in the order of 0.1%..”
.35 3X> .1
Posted by: rhennigantx at March 20, 2023 12:33 PM (BRHaw)
Burn the witch!
VFR = Vaccine Fatality Rate, IFR = Infection Fatality Rate
Zero point 35 percent = 3.5 per thousand, which is half-way between 3 and 4 dead per thousand.
“..covid IFR is in the order of 0.1%..”
.35 3X> .1
Posted by: rhennigantx at March 20, 2023 12:33 PM (BRHaw)
Burn the witch!
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 20, 2023 12:35 PM (yQpMk)
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Besides, the GOP doesn't really operate like that, otherwise we would've been running Jeb in 2016.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 20, 2023 12:32 PM (eYoxG)
I'm convinced they let Trump get the nom to teach us a lesson. They thought he would lose and then we would stay quiet when they started "reaching across the aisle" to help Hillary. Which was what they wanted to do anyway.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 20, 2023 12:32 PM (eYoxG)
I'm convinced they let Trump get the nom to teach us a lesson. They thought he would lose and then we would stay quiet when they started "reaching across the aisle" to help Hillary. Which was what they wanted to do anyway.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 20, 2023 12:35 PM (UuD2k)
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225 First Republic Bank's shares are now halted on the exchange.
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Aren't the French on their sixth or seventh republic?
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Aren't the French on their sixth or seventh republic?
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 20, 2023 12:35 PM (8Sqzu)
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218 DeSantis was ALWAYS going to run in 2024.
cuz he only barely beat a crackhead on 2018
and without Trump's help, he woulda lost
no one likes an ungrateful welp
well, maybe a certain someone does
cuz he only barely beat a crackhead on 2018
and without Trump's help, he woulda lost
no one likes an ungrateful welp
well, maybe a certain someone does
Posted by: REDACTED at March 20, 2023 12:35 PM (us2H3)
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Trump should have taken care of business in 2020.
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Ace, I don't understand this statement. As in the election? That can't possibly be what you mean, because what could he have done on the eve of the official certification? This man spent his entire presidency fending off constant arrows to his back in a way I've never seen before. I get that you've falled off support for Trump (to the extent you had it), but this man is still just about the only guy I trust to have America's interests as his #1 priority.
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Ace, I don't understand this statement. As in the election? That can't possibly be what you mean, because what could he have done on the eve of the official certification? This man spent his entire presidency fending off constant arrows to his back in a way I've never seen before. I get that you've falled off support for Trump (to the extent you had it), but this man is still just about the only guy I trust to have America's interests as his #1 priority.
Posted by: Lady in Black at March 20, 2023 12:35 PM (sVtYq)
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Maybe its time to storm the Bastille? Just a thought.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 20, 2023 12:32 PM (8Sqzu)
No, no! You act locally, and then move on. The Bastille mattered because Paris was a hotbed of revolutionary sentiment. DC is the reverse: it will likely be one of the last strongholds to fall after Chicago and Atlanta are purged of blue.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 20, 2023 12:32 PM (8Sqzu)
No, no! You act locally, and then move on. The Bastille mattered because Paris was a hotbed of revolutionary sentiment. DC is the reverse: it will likely be one of the last strongholds to fall after Chicago and Atlanta are purged of blue.
Posted by: trev006 at March 20, 2023 12:35 PM (DTm0P)
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"It just seems like it was an unwise and unneeded dig."
I don't mind the attempted dig at Trump, it's just that he isn't very good at it. He reminds me of, 2016 running for President Ted Cruz. They script these snarky comebacks and statements and that's exactly how they come across, scripted and not that funny.
I don't mind the attempted dig at Trump, it's just that he isn't very good at it. He reminds me of, 2016 running for President Ted Cruz. They script these snarky comebacks and statements and that's exactly how they come across, scripted and not that funny.
Posted by: lowandslow at March 20, 2023 12:35 PM (76Foq)
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Pence will not get my vote
Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 20, 2023 12:34 PM (k1L5r)
So say we all.
Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 20, 2023 12:34 PM (k1L5r)
So say we all.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 20, 2023 12:35 PM (yQpMk)
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“VFR results are 0.13% (0.05%-0.21%, 95% confidence interval) in The Netherlands and 0.35% (0.15%-0.55%) in Europe, substantially transcending covid IFR.”
VFR = Vaccine Fatality Rate, IFR = Infection Fatality Rate
Zero point 35 percent = 3.5 per thousand, which is half-way between 3 and 4 dead per thousand.
“..covid IFR is in the order of 0.1%..”
.35 3X> .1
Posted by: rhennigantx at March 20, 2023 12:33 PM (BRHaw)
I really think this violates that whole "no math" thingie.
VFR = Vaccine Fatality Rate, IFR = Infection Fatality Rate
Zero point 35 percent = 3.5 per thousand, which is half-way between 3 and 4 dead per thousand.
“..covid IFR is in the order of 0.1%..”
.35 3X> .1
Posted by: rhennigantx at March 20, 2023 12:33 PM (BRHaw)
I really think this violates that whole "no math" thingie.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 20, 2023 12:35 PM (Zz0t1)
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The Fed has opened up the swap lines again, big time, just like I was expecting.
This means there is serious dollar stress in the banking system worldwide.
The Fed has opened up the swap lines again, big time, just like I was expecting.
This means there is serious dollar stress in the banking system worldwide.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz) at March 20, 2023 12:35 PM (Mzdiz)
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Trump can't get to 270. No R can.
He couldn't win PA or MI when the Gope controlled their state legislatures.
The Dems now control both states top to bottom.
AZ is also gone. And GA will be stolen.
But other than that, we'll get em in 24, champ.
He couldn't win PA or MI when the Gope controlled their state legislatures.
The Dems now control both states top to bottom.
AZ is also gone. And GA will be stolen.
But other than that, we'll get em in 24, champ.
Posted by: MTG and McCarthy at March 20, 2023 12:35 PM (VRslY)
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NEW YORK CITY
https://tinyurl.com/3j5mzh49 ... Trump supporters
have shut down 5th Ave right outside Trump Tower.
https://tinyurl.com/3j5mzh49 ... Trump supporters
have shut down 5th Ave right outside Trump Tower.
Posted by: Kathy at March 20, 2023 12:35 PM (JklXp)
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It would be a Russia/China/Iran alignment...
And the West is on the other side short of arms and ammo. And political will.
And the West is on the other side short of arms and ammo. And political will.
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 20, 2023 12:36 PM (ZTAGJ)
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Three day visit. Substantive discussions.
And Saudi Arabia, the Gulf States, and Iran are making nice with each other, with Chinese help.
Another foreign policy triumph for Biden!
And Saudi Arabia, the Gulf States, and Iran are making nice with each other, with Chinese help.
Another foreign policy triumph for Biden!
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 20, 2023 12:36 PM (2tUFv)
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or you are a fucking commie GOPe New World Order sellout who should be stoned in the public square.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 20, 2023 12:32
What are we, cucumbers tea sandwiches without the crusts trimmed off of the bread?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 20, 2023 12:32
What are we, cucumbers tea sandwiches without the crusts trimmed off of the bread?
Posted by: Principled Conservative NeverTrumpers at March 20, 2023 12:36 PM (a3Q+t)
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They thought he would lose and then we would stay quiet when they started "reaching across the aisle" to help Hillary. Which was what they wanted to do anyway.
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McConnell is deeply attracted to women turtles.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 20, 2023 12:36 PM (8Sqzu)
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We're safe from the next big broken law as Trump doesn't chew gum afaik and therefore does not litter (the wrapper or the used gum).
The walls are backlashing.
The walls are backlashing.
Posted by: micky at March 20, 2023 12:36 PM (3byMq)
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If Trump is indicted/arrested - I pray that if people protest publicly, they do it smartly and don't take the bait to do anything but gather and hold signs. To take it any farther will be entree into the gaping maws of the FBI/DOJ.
Posted by: Cheri
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The beauty of it is that the FBI/DOJ don't need any of them to.
Posted by: Cheri
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The beauty of it is that the FBI/DOJ don't need any of them to.
Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 20, 2023 12:36 PM (k1L5r)
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>>>208 "Trump has said he'd turn himself in."
That's not how Democrats roll -- they don't allow their political enemies to turn themselves in, they want to go in hard with SWAT and get CNN to get exciting video and do the full perp-walk.
That's not how Democrats roll -- they don't allow their political enemies to turn themselves in, they want to go in hard with SWAT and get CNN to get exciting video and do the full perp-walk.
Posted by: ace at March 20, 2023 12:36 PM (BvUNN)
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"Trump should have taken care of business in 2020."
I've criticized DJT for lotsa fuckups; more than most of you all have, for sure. Still, if he's our candidate in 2024, I am not voting for any Dems. I do not regret voting for him in 2016 and 2020.
I've criticized DJT for lotsa fuckups; more than most of you all have, for sure. Still, if he's our candidate in 2024, I am not voting for any Dems. I do not regret voting for him in 2016 and 2020.
Posted by: Veni, Vidi, gp at March 20, 2023 12:36 PM (MvF+J)
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Trump is a transactional guy. Having a Republican in control of Florida helped Trump. And it's just normal to support politically-sympatico politicians.
It wasn't some kind of compassion for DeSantis. It was a transactional thing and just a normal thing. But people want to pretend that Trump is the Godfather and he made Ron a "made man" just because he loved him or something.
It's so ass-backwards.
Posted by: ace at March 20, 2023 12:33 PM (BvUNN)
The Godfather is transactional. If we're talking about political loyalty in exchange for political support, that's pretty transactional. The question is really more about what is expected in these circumstances.
Using Romney as a comparison, he clearly crossed lines after asking for and receiving support.
It wasn't some kind of compassion for DeSantis. It was a transactional thing and just a normal thing. But people want to pretend that Trump is the Godfather and he made Ron a "made man" just because he loved him or something.
It's so ass-backwards.
Posted by: ace at March 20, 2023 12:33 PM (BvUNN)
The Godfather is transactional. If we're talking about political loyalty in exchange for political support, that's pretty transactional. The question is really more about what is expected in these circumstances.
Using Romney as a comparison, he clearly crossed lines after asking for and receiving support.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 20, 2023 12:36 PM (eYoxG)
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236 I watched, "It Happened One Night" I recorded from TCM. The blue print for RomComs the last 90 years.
I'm not a big Clark Gable fan, but a great movie.
Posted by: Archer at March 20, 2023 12:34 PM (gmo/4)
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It's more of a blueprint for screwball comedies than romantic comedies. If you want to point to a particular film to set as the father of romantic comedies, you have to go to the silent era.
Lubitsch had more to do with creating what we think of as the romantic comedy, especially his early sound work, than Capra.
I'm not a big Clark Gable fan, but a great movie.
Posted by: Archer at March 20, 2023 12:34 PM (gmo/4)
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It's more of a blueprint for screwball comedies than romantic comedies. If you want to point to a particular film to set as the father of romantic comedies, you have to go to the silent era.
Lubitsch had more to do with creating what we think of as the romantic comedy, especially his early sound work, than Capra.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 20, 2023 12:36 PM (LvTSG)
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"The picture of Abe Lincoln in bed with another man would have ended his career as a politician."
Probably at that time it would have been seen as a sign of poverty, not gayness.
Probably at that time it would have been seen as a sign of poverty, not gayness.
Posted by: PG at March 20, 2023 12:36 PM (84jHt)
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So Bragg has got cold feet, or did De Santis scare him off? LOL. What's the reading on the BS meter now?
Posted by: Ziba at March 20, 2023 12:36 PM (4h9M3)
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One thing I find interesting is that people seem to automatically assume that notorious germaphobe Trump actually had sex with a woman who:
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AFAIK:
1. they were probably on a reality show together at one point. that is it.
2. stormy has muddied the waters because she's such a liberal bitch that she spent time making fun of PDT's dingdong at times. kids love that stuff.
3. but actually, she then last word on the subject said "no never happened, I never want to talk about this again"
so, I'm taking that at face value because it makes sense. She never did it, she lied.
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AFAIK:
1. they were probably on a reality show together at one point. that is it.
2. stormy has muddied the waters because she's such a liberal bitch that she spent time making fun of PDT's dingdong at times. kids love that stuff.
3. but actually, she then last word on the subject said "no never happened, I never want to talk about this again"
so, I'm taking that at face value because it makes sense. She never did it, she lied.
Posted by: sockamster, gator at March 20, 2023 12:37 PM (MLrvz)
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256 Trump can't get to 270. No R can.
He couldn't win PA or MI when the Gope controlled their state legislatures.
The Dems now control both states top to bottom.
AZ is also gone. And GA will be stolen.
But other than that, we'll get em in 24, champ.
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Time for Rivers of Blood.
He couldn't win PA or MI when the Gope controlled their state legislatures.
The Dems now control both states top to bottom.
AZ is also gone. And GA will be stolen.
But other than that, we'll get em in 24, champ.
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Time for Rivers of Blood.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 20, 2023 12:37 PM (8Sqzu)
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Stunningly, the Polish Ambassador to France Jan Emeryk Rosciszewski said yesterday: "Either Ukraine will defend its independence today, or we will be forced to enter into this conflict," sending a clear message that NATO will enter the war against Russia if Ukraine loses ground.
The video that Dore shows in one of his recent uploads is insane. Ukraine military are literally pulling men off the streets and forcing them to military service. The guys are fighting and hanging onto lampposts and whatnot. They are being forced into service because (its sounds like) close to 120,000? have already died in this war. They mention the numbers are being kept secret. Wonder why /s.
Ukraine Soldiers Kidnapping New "Recruits" In Broad Daylight!
https://tinyurl.com/yc6zhm2v
The lady from Dublin yelling at the politicians and the Generals evidently in the audience is spot on. She is the first in the clip.
This brings tears to my eyes. More clips showing the men and boys being grabbed off the streets are shown throughout.
The video that Dore shows in one of his recent uploads is insane. Ukraine military are literally pulling men off the streets and forcing them to military service. The guys are fighting and hanging onto lampposts and whatnot. They are being forced into service because (its sounds like) close to 120,000? have already died in this war. They mention the numbers are being kept secret. Wonder why /s.
Ukraine Soldiers Kidnapping New "Recruits" In Broad Daylight!
https://tinyurl.com/yc6zhm2v
The lady from Dublin yelling at the politicians and the Generals evidently in the audience is spot on. She is the first in the clip.
This brings tears to my eyes. More clips showing the men and boys being grabbed off the streets are shown throughout.
Posted by: artisanal ette at March 20, 2023 12:37 PM (uQPen)
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Could you imagine a CW2 where the rules of engagement are set down to mimic the first? Springfields and Enfields only, both .58 in Captain Minie's invention. And then, the Woke crowd and Antifa shows up, not knowing how to use a rotary phone.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at March 20, 2023 12:37 PM (lz5hY)
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This means there is serious dollar stress in the banking system worldwide.
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The moment Biden made the public statement about "The banks are safe and the system is strong" I knew it was time to go withdraw $5000.
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The moment Biden made the public statement about "The banks are safe and the system is strong" I knew it was time to go withdraw $5000.
Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 20, 2023 12:37 PM (k1L5r)
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And the West is on the other side short of arms and ammo. And political will.
Biden is rapidly turning the world into two blocs - the white people bloc, and the non-white people bloc.
Since the Russians are orcs, they count as non-white - just ask the Ukrainians.
Biden is rapidly turning the world into two blocs - the white people bloc, and the non-white people bloc.
Since the Russians are orcs, they count as non-white - just ask the Ukrainians.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 20, 2023 12:37 PM (2tUFv)
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That's not how Democrats roll -- they don't allow their political enemies to turn themselves in, they want to go in hard with SWAT and get CNN to get exciting video and do the full perp-walk.
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Ricky Perry was able to show up, get nice mugshot, and leave.
the lefts' never gonna let that happen again.
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Ricky Perry was able to show up, get nice mugshot, and leave.
the lefts' never gonna let that happen again.
Posted by: sockamster, gator at March 20, 2023 12:37 PM (MLrvz)
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I don't see it that way at all. Trump did win in 2020, he should be treated as the incumbent, but instead everyone wants to primary him, which says they either don't care that the election was stolen, or they don't think the election was stolen and that Trump actually lost. DeSantis should have endorsed Trump this time around and let him finish being the wrecking ball, paving the way for an 8 year DeSantis Term.
OR....they think the election was stolen, and they think Trump won, but they don't think he's the strongest candidate going into 2024. Why must everything be a negative about those who support DeSantis?
OR....they think the election was stolen, and they think Trump won, but they don't think he's the strongest candidate going into 2024. Why must everything be a negative about those who support DeSantis?
Posted by: Archimedes at March 20, 2023 12:37 PM (eOEVl)
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It is all an op.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 20, 2023 12:38 PM (aylmF)
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If someone like Pence got the nom you can bet I won't vote for him. Romney taught me that. It's going to have to be Trump and DeSantis if they really want to win. I don't think either one can do it alone.
Posted by: fd at March 20, 2023 12:38 PM (iayUP)
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I will be voting for that youngster Biden
Posted by: James Earl "Jimmy" Carter... Still Alive at March 20, 2023 12:38 PM (flINI)
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Especially the ones who say the same thing every single fucking day as if they believe it is an incantation.
Yeah, makes me weary too. I mean you can blow off the inevitable trolls and new one-names showing up to push one side or the other. They're just losers trying to stir up trouble and can be ignored.
But the day in day out every single day same crap about this ... I mean look at the topic. The left is abusing their power to attack political enemies despite having no case and we're off in a corner arguing over which guy who has no chance of winning is best?
Yeah, makes me weary too. I mean you can blow off the inevitable trolls and new one-names showing up to push one side or the other. They're just losers trying to stir up trouble and can be ignored.
But the day in day out every single day same crap about this ... I mean look at the topic. The left is abusing their power to attack political enemies despite having no case and we're off in a corner arguing over which guy who has no chance of winning is best?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 20, 2023 12:38 PM (0hOvj)
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"Trump should have won in 2020, and left DeSantis with a clear field for the populist/nationalist candidate in 2024.
But now Trump lost, and now he wants to run in *DeSantis'* year.
It's Trump who's acting out of order running in DeSantis' year to run, not the other way around."
So the gopE is back to "it's my turn status" Just like romney, mccain, jeb, et al?
I think I'll pass in 2024 if it's a "it's my turn" type of guy.
But now Trump lost, and now he wants to run in *DeSantis'* year.
It's Trump who's acting out of order running in DeSantis' year to run, not the other way around."
So the gopE is back to "it's my turn status" Just like romney, mccain, jeb, et al?
I think I'll pass in 2024 if it's a "it's my turn" type of guy.
Posted by: Great Company DeSantis is in at March 20, 2023 12:38 PM (89Sog)
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Under New York's criminal procedure law, except for rape charges, "prosecution for any other felony must be commenced within five years after the commission thereof". The time frame for charging a misdemeanor is 2 years from commission thereof.
Generally, a statute of limitations/timeliness is an affirmative defense. I suspect that it is not the actual conduct of paying money to Daniels that is the "crime" or even the allegation that Trump cheated on his wife with Daniels, but rather maybe a failure to disclose the payment. Unless and until an indictment is released, the charges won't be known.
Generally, a statute of limitations/timeliness is an affirmative defense. I suspect that it is not the actual conduct of paying money to Daniels that is the "crime" or even the allegation that Trump cheated on his wife with Daniels, but rather maybe a failure to disclose the payment. Unless and until an indictment is released, the charges won't be known.
Posted by: Penfold at March 20, 2023 12:38 PM (Fbt5B)
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It wasn't some kind of compassion for DeSantis. It was a transactional thing and just a normal thing. But people want to pretend that Trump is the Godfather and he made Ron a "made man" just because he loved him or something.
It's so ass-backwards.
Posted by: ace at March 20, 2023 12:33 PM (BvUNN)
Ace, my feeling is that DeSantis ought to show friendship to Trump as much as reasonably possible; not because Trump is "owed" it, but because in the current condition of the GOP electorate, it makes more sense to do so. Publicly praising Trump as a President, and repeatedly emphasizing that you have no quarrel with him, puts the onus of this split on him, and will win over more of his supporters.
Now maybe the time for that is already past, because of how personal Trump has already gotten with his attacks. But speaking for myself, I would have liked to see DeSantis get a little warmer in his denunciation of this farce, just because I think that will help his chances down the road.
It's so ass-backwards.
Posted by: ace at March 20, 2023 12:33 PM (BvUNN)
Ace, my feeling is that DeSantis ought to show friendship to Trump as much as reasonably possible; not because Trump is "owed" it, but because in the current condition of the GOP electorate, it makes more sense to do so. Publicly praising Trump as a President, and repeatedly emphasizing that you have no quarrel with him, puts the onus of this split on him, and will win over more of his supporters.
Now maybe the time for that is already past, because of how personal Trump has already gotten with his attacks. But speaking for myself, I would have liked to see DeSantis get a little warmer in his denunciation of this farce, just because I think that will help his chances down the road.
Posted by: Dr. T at March 20, 2023 12:38 PM (jGGMD)
Posted by: Veni, Vidi, gp at March 20, 2023 12:39 PM (MvF+J)
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252 "It just seems like it was an unwise and unneeded dig."
I don't mind the attempted dig at Trump, it's just that he isn't very good at it. He reminds me of, 2016 running for President Ted Cruz. They script these snarky comebacks and statements and that's exactly how they come across, scripted and not that funny.
Posted by: lowandslow at March 20, 2023 12:35 PM (76Foq)
I didn't recognize it as a dig at first glance. Maybe it would've been obvious on a debate stage or in a more direct context, but it read more like "I'm not a lawyer" which seemed like an awkward starting point.
I don't mind the attempted dig at Trump, it's just that he isn't very good at it. He reminds me of, 2016 running for President Ted Cruz. They script these snarky comebacks and statements and that's exactly how they come across, scripted and not that funny.
Posted by: lowandslow at March 20, 2023 12:35 PM (76Foq)
I didn't recognize it as a dig at first glance. Maybe it would've been obvious on a debate stage or in a more direct context, but it read more like "I'm not a lawyer" which seemed like an awkward starting point.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 20, 2023 12:39 PM (eYoxG)
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I think, for the first time, someone in the white house used their brain, and called Bragg to find a way out of this. Even they know it's a loser, that's why they didn't indict years ago. They have to know doing this will assure a Republican win in 2024.
Posted by: Rbastid at March 20, 2023 12:39 PM (K+KQZ)
Posted by: 3 or 4 Schrodinger's cats at March 20, 2023 12:39 PM (a3Q+t)
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Isn't RDS selling a book rn?
Along with Cotton, eyepatch and the others.
It's about enriching themselves.
Along with Cotton, eyepatch and the others.
It's about enriching themselves.
Posted by: MTG and McCarthy at March 20, 2023 12:39 PM (VRslY)
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>>>communist scheme to plunge the US into a civil war that will cost hundreds of thousands of lives.
That estimate is . . . conservative.
That estimate is . . . conservative.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 20, 2023 12:39 PM (PyOKD)
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I'm not a big Clark Gable fan, but a great movie.
Posted by: Archer at March 20, 2023 12:34 PM (gmo/4)
frankly, I don't give a fuck
I'm not a big Clark Gable fan, but a great movie.
Posted by: Archer at March 20, 2023 12:34 PM (gmo/4)
frankly, I don't give a fuck
Posted by: Clark Gable at March 20, 2023 12:39 PM (us2H3)
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Personally if I was Trump, I'd head back to NYC and wait this out in Trump Tower.
Posted by: lowandslow at March 20, 2023 12:39 PM (76Foq)
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232 I know that no Moron cares about my opinion but, I have to say that I weary of both the EverTrumpers and the NeverTrumpers.
Especially the ones who say the same thing every single fucking day as if they believe it is an incantation.
Posted by: G'rump928(c)
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Count me in as someone else who knows no Moron cares about my opinion, right along with you!
As soon as I figure out a comment is about why DeSantis is a cuck or Trump is played out my eyes glaze over and I move on to the next comment. There is plenty of time for stuff to happen before the first primary. I'll be ready to roll in the mud with anyone then (not YOU Mayor Pete).
Especially the ones who say the same thing every single fucking day as if they believe it is an incantation.
Posted by: G'rump928(c)
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Count me in as someone else who knows no Moron cares about my opinion, right along with you!
As soon as I figure out a comment is about why DeSantis is a cuck or Trump is played out my eyes glaze over and I move on to the next comment. There is plenty of time for stuff to happen before the first primary. I'll be ready to roll in the mud with anyone then (not YOU Mayor Pete).
Posted by: Chuck Martel at March 20, 2023 12:39 PM (fs1hN)
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>>>I don't mind the attempted dig at Trump, i
it's barely a dig. I don't know if you guys remember this, but the party faithful *used to be* bothered by sexual improprieties like this. DeSantis does not want to put himself in the position of defending someone else's sexual improprieties. Why should he put himself in the soup for Trump, who's basically out there calling him a groomer?
I know Trump's real core of supporters say they don't believe Stormy Daniels. I do not believe that anyone outside of the core of supporters believes that Trump gave a woman $130,000 for no reason. And he's cheated on other wives. Even kinda bragged about it in the press, or had his new GF brag about him.
"THE BEST SEX I EVER HAD" was a Post headline, about Marla Maples talking up what a stud Trump was during their affair when he was married to Ivana.
it's barely a dig. I don't know if you guys remember this, but the party faithful *used to be* bothered by sexual improprieties like this. DeSantis does not want to put himself in the position of defending someone else's sexual improprieties. Why should he put himself in the soup for Trump, who's basically out there calling him a groomer?
I know Trump's real core of supporters say they don't believe Stormy Daniels. I do not believe that anyone outside of the core of supporters believes that Trump gave a woman $130,000 for no reason. And he's cheated on other wives. Even kinda bragged about it in the press, or had his new GF brag about him.
"THE BEST SEX I EVER HAD" was a Post headline, about Marla Maples talking up what a stud Trump was during their affair when he was married to Ivana.
Posted by: ace at March 20, 2023 12:39 PM (BvUNN)
Posted by: BignJames at March 20, 2023 12:39 PM (AwYPR)
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Probably at that time it would have been seen as a sign of poverty, not gayness
Or just necessity, it happened with travelers a lot until around the mid 20th century. You get to a small town, there's only one room with one bed. Its cold and you're bone tired from walking or riding all day. OK pard, move over.
Or just necessity, it happened with travelers a lot until around the mid 20th century. You get to a small town, there's only one room with one bed. Its cold and you're bone tired from walking or riding all day. OK pard, move over.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 20, 2023 12:40 PM (0hOvj)
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They know the election was stolen, and they are OK with that because they are progressives who agree with the final desitination, but disagree on how to get there
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 20, 2023 12:40 PM (aylmF)
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Biden is rapidly turning the world into two blocs - the white people bloc, and the non-white people bloc.
And the latest idea that the Biden Administration is toying with is forbidding foreign airlines who use Russian airspace at any time from landing in the United States.
We're going to have two separate global air transport systems.
And the latest idea that the Biden Administration is toying with is forbidding foreign airlines who use Russian airspace at any time from landing in the United States.
We're going to have two separate global air transport systems.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 20, 2023 12:40 PM (2tUFv)
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Personally if I was Trump, I'd head back to NYC and wait this out in Trump Tower.
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Would actually be kind of a baller move. I could respect that.
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Would actually be kind of a baller move. I could respect that.
Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at March 20, 2023 12:40 PM (sX1BW)
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at March 20, 2023 12:40 PM (2Or5V)
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It won't matter if they protest peacefully. They will trump up charges and instill fear, which is what the anti-American thugs have been doing.
Posted by: artisanal ette
Sadly agree. NYC Cop: Hey you! Did your dog just poop on the sidewalk and you haven't cleaned it up yet? You are under arrest! Woman dragged off in handcuffs holding a "Free Trump" sign.
Posted by: artisanal ette
Sadly agree. NYC Cop: Hey you! Did your dog just poop on the sidewalk and you haven't cleaned it up yet? You are under arrest! Woman dragged off in handcuffs holding a "Free Trump" sign.
Posted by: Cheri at March 20, 2023 12:40 PM (oiNtH)
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295 "Sen.Ted Cruz and Rep.Chip Roy are holding the FBI accountable."
Oooh....a letter!
Posted by: BignJames at March 20, 2023 12:39 PM (AwYPR)
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"P.S. But don't worry, we won't touch your budgets."
Oooh....a letter!
Posted by: BignJames at March 20, 2023 12:39 PM (AwYPR)
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"P.S. But don't worry, we won't touch your budgets."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 20, 2023 12:40 PM (LvTSG)
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256 Trump can't get to 270. No R can.
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red trickle. right?
well, again, this is the country the new population deserves.
if 2021-2024 doesn't change minds, enjoy it
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red trickle. right?
well, again, this is the country the new population deserves.
if 2021-2024 doesn't change minds, enjoy it
Posted by: sockamster, gator at March 20, 2023 12:40 PM (MLrvz)
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So in last 20 years they have 3000 unsolved murders but PDT is a problem.
Posted by: rhennigantx at March 20, 2023 12:20 PM (BRHaw)
Holy Shit! You're telling me Trump has murdered 3000 people in NYC over the past 20 years? I wonder if the DA knows about this.
Posted by: rhennigantx at March 20, 2023 12:20 PM (BRHaw)
Holy Shit! You're telling me Trump has murdered 3000 people in NYC over the past 20 years? I wonder if the DA knows about this.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 20, 2023 12:40 PM (z99Zw)
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NEW YORK CITY
https://tinyurl.com/3j5mzh49 ... Trump supporters
have shut down 5th Ave right outside Trump Tower.
Posted by: Kathy at March 20, 2023 12:35 PM (JklXp)
That's awesome.
Too bad they'll all wind up in prison for trespassing and never see the light of day again.
https://tinyurl.com/3j5mzh49 ... Trump supporters
have shut down 5th Ave right outside Trump Tower.
Posted by: Kathy at March 20, 2023 12:35 PM (JklXp)
That's awesome.
Too bad they'll all wind up in prison for trespassing and never see the light of day again.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 20, 2023 12:40 PM (Zz0t1)
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It's a pure dominance display by the left, they want to show how tough they are by beating up a tough guy.
Same reason why they raided Mar del Lago.
It's for show. It's a display. They want to make this a symbol.
Same reason why they raided Mar del Lago.
It's for show. It's a display. They want to make this a symbol.
Posted by: PG at March 20, 2023 12:40 PM (84jHt)
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The Fed has opened up the swap lines again, big time, just like I was expecting.
This means there is serious dollar stress in the banking system worldwide.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz) at March 20, 2023 12:35 PM (Mzdiz)
The best way to destroy the capitalist system is to debauch the currency.
- Vladimir Lenin
This means there is serious dollar stress in the banking system worldwide.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz) at March 20, 2023 12:35 PM (Mzdiz)
The best way to destroy the capitalist system is to debauch the currency.
- Vladimir Lenin
Posted by: Archer at March 20, 2023 12:41 PM (gmo/4)
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>>>I didn't recognize it as a dig at first glance. Maybe it would've been obvious on a debate stage or in a more direct context, but it read more like "I'm not a lawyer" which seemed like an awkward starting point.
It's more like, "I don't want to get into the mud about this or start vouching for the sexual saintliness of a guy who's been attacking me nonstop since December."
It's more like, "I don't want to get into the mud about this or start vouching for the sexual saintliness of a guy who's been attacking me nonstop since December."
Posted by: ace at March 20, 2023 12:41 PM (BvUNN)
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"It just seems like it was an unwise and unneeded dig."
We don't care about mean tweets, but those unwise digs are a bridge too far.
We don't care about mean tweets, but those unwise digs are a bridge too far.
Posted by: Veni, Vidi, gp at March 20, 2023 12:41 PM (MvF+J)
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That estimate is . . . conservative.
Bill Ayres and the Weather Underground talked about killing thirty million Americans.
Bill Ayres and the Weather Underground talked about killing thirty million Americans.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 20, 2023 12:41 PM (2tUFv)
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Trump could campaign for his basement.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at March 20, 2023 12:20 PM (40DMX)
Not a chance. He lives in Florida now. They don't have basements there.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at March 20, 2023 12:20 PM (40DMX)
Not a chance. He lives in Florida now. They don't have basements there.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 20, 2023 12:41 PM (z99Zw)
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I do not believe that anyone outside of the core of supporters believes that Trump gave a woman $130,000 for no reason.
You're smarter and older than that. Businesses and super rich people pay people to GO AWAY all the time. Who cares if she really slipped and fell because of our supermarket floors? Its cheaper to throw a couple grand at her than go to court, and its less bad publicity.
I mean... I know you know this.
You're smarter and older than that. Businesses and super rich people pay people to GO AWAY all the time. Who cares if she really slipped and fell because of our supermarket floors? Its cheaper to throw a couple grand at her than go to court, and its less bad publicity.
I mean... I know you know this.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 20, 2023 12:41 PM (0hOvj)
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A little bit of planet stuff:
On the evening of March 28, five planets – Jupiter, Mercury, Venus, Uranus, and Mars – will gather within a small 50-degree sky sector. Start your observations soon after sunset. Near the horizon, you’ll see two bright objects – Jupiter (magnitude -2.1) and Mercury (magnitude -1.3). They will be located in the constellation Pisces, separated by about a degree. Higher up in the sky, Venus will shine brightly with a magnitude of -4.0 in the constellation Aries. If you use a pair of strong binoculars, you’ll see Uranus nearby, shining with a magnitude of 5.8 at a distance of about 2° from Venus. Mars (magnitude 0,9) will join the alignment higher in the sky, near the first quarter Moon in the constellation Gemini.
If you use a pair of strong binoculars, you’ll see Uranus nearby.
My neighbor gets pissed when I do that.
On the evening of March 28, five planets – Jupiter, Mercury, Venus, Uranus, and Mars – will gather within a small 50-degree sky sector. Start your observations soon after sunset. Near the horizon, you’ll see two bright objects – Jupiter (magnitude -2.1) and Mercury (magnitude -1.3). They will be located in the constellation Pisces, separated by about a degree. Higher up in the sky, Venus will shine brightly with a magnitude of -4.0 in the constellation Aries. If you use a pair of strong binoculars, you’ll see Uranus nearby, shining with a magnitude of 5.8 at a distance of about 2° from Venus. Mars (magnitude 0,9) will join the alignment higher in the sky, near the first quarter Moon in the constellation Gemini.
If you use a pair of strong binoculars, you’ll see Uranus nearby.
My neighbor gets pissed when I do that.
Posted by: rhennigantx at March 20, 2023 12:41 PM (BRHaw)
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'Now would be a hilariously ironic time for Jimmy Carter to die.'
Being killed by a rabbit would be a hilariously ironic way.
'Now would be a hilariously ironic time for Jimmy Carter to die.'
Being killed by a rabbit would be a hilariously ironic way.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at March 20, 2023 12:42 PM (qVln6)
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Biden is rapidly turning the world into two blocs - the white people bloc, and the non-white people bloc.
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There's literally video of him saying that was the plan for America, and people still refuse to believe him.
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There's literally video of him saying that was the plan for America, and people still refuse to believe him.
Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 20, 2023 12:42 PM (BGev3)
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at March 20, 2023 12:42 PM (sWM8x)
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Well enough of the chit-chat, time to get moving. Need to pay property taxes. Get oil changed for car. And other stuff.
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 20, 2023 12:42 PM (ZTAGJ)
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It is all an op.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 20, 2023 12:38 PM
Sadly, I'm old enough to be that cynical.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 20, 2023 12:38 PM
Sadly, I'm old enough to be that cynical.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 20, 2023 12:42 PM (a3Q+t)
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keep telling yourself that, Trev
Posted by: ace at March 20, 2023 12:34 PM (BvUNN)
I believe I will. This is going to go about as well for you as supporting Ted Cruz right to the bitter end. But at least Ted Cruz is likely to manage a better showing than RDS.
Posted by: ace at March 20, 2023 12:34 PM (BvUNN)
I believe I will. This is going to go about as well for you as supporting Ted Cruz right to the bitter end. But at least Ted Cruz is likely to manage a better showing than RDS.
Posted by: trev006 at March 20, 2023 12:43 PM (DTm0P)
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"THE BEST SEX I EVER HAD" was a Post headline, about Marla Maples talking up what a stud Trump was during their affair when he was married to Ivana.
Posted by: ace at March 20, 2023 12:39 PM (BvUNN)
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Having a coupla billion dollars will make anyone a combination of Hershell Savage and Peter North
Posted by: ace at March 20, 2023 12:39 PM (BvUNN)
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Having a coupla billion dollars will make anyone a combination of Hershell Savage and Peter North
Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at March 20, 2023 12:43 PM (flINI)
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"Or maybe they are so terrified of running against Ron DeSantis in 2024 that they actually want to martyr Trump to ensure he wins the Republican presidential primary ready for a repeat contest with Joe Biden."
Honestly, I think that's the game, really. Trump is a known entity, the people who dislike him haven't changed their minds, and Biden has already beaten him once. They know Biden's in a weak position but if they can manipulate Trump into another Republican nomination they have a working playbook ready.
They're very, very good at manipulating us.
Honestly, I think that's the game, really. Trump is a known entity, the people who dislike him haven't changed their minds, and Biden has already beaten him once. They know Biden's in a weak position but if they can manipulate Trump into another Republican nomination they have a working playbook ready.
They're very, very good at manipulating us.
Posted by: Caiwyn at March 20, 2023 12:43 PM (Bmy9A)
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my monocle just dropped into my sherry.
I say, old chap. an affair, with an unchaste woman?
yeah yeah, we know. that's why ace isn't going to go deeper on that.
I say, old chap. an affair, with an unchaste woman?
yeah yeah, we know. that's why ace isn't going to go deeper on that.
Posted by: sockamster, gator at March 20, 2023 12:43 PM (MLrvz)
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On Truth Social, a poll was taken to see if Trump's request for protests over his pending arrest was another J6 setup. 85% said yes.
Posted by: Nova Local at March 20, 2023 12:43 PM (exHjb)
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Personally if I was Trump, I'd head back to NYC and wait this out in Trump Tower.
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Would actually be kind of a baller move. I could respect that.
Posted by: SH (No more Roe)
Host a big dinner party at Le Bernadin in Manhattan.
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Would actually be kind of a baller move. I could respect that.
Posted by: SH (No more Roe)
Host a big dinner party at Le Bernadin in Manhattan.
Posted by: Cheri at March 20, 2023 12:43 PM (oiNtH)
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"Sen.Ted Cruz and Rep.Chip Roy are holding the FBI accountable."
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Are they requesting documents? Because it's not scary unless they're requesting documents. Ones that never get delivered to the requesting parties until years go by and maybe a few pages with 90% redaction finally gets turned over.
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Are they requesting documents? Because it's not scary unless they're requesting documents. Ones that never get delivered to the requesting parties until years go by and maybe a few pages with 90% redaction finally gets turned over.
Posted by: Lady in Black at March 20, 2023 12:43 PM (sVtYq)
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Ukraine Soldiers Kidnapping New "Recruits" In Broad Daylight!
https://tinyurl.com/yc6zhm2v
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We have to fight to the last Ukranian for our defense contract kickbacks and to keep the biolab stuff from getting out. Once the Ukranians are gone, we'll burn through the Polish youth. On to Victory!
https://tinyurl.com/yc6zhm2v
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We have to fight to the last Ukranian for our defense contract kickbacks and to keep the biolab stuff from getting out. Once the Ukranians are gone, we'll burn through the Polish youth. On to Victory!
Posted by: Sen. Lindsey Graham at March 20, 2023 12:43 PM (fs1hN)
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I thought it was proven back during the back stabbing lying fuck Michael Cohen trial, they determined that Trump paid the whore with personal funds, not campaign money.........
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 20, 2023 12:32 PM (Zz0t1)
They want that picture of Trump in cuffs.
If they can get away with more they will try their damnedest.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 20, 2023 12:32 PM (Zz0t1)
They want that picture of Trump in cuffs.
If they can get away with more they will try their damnedest.
Posted by: artisanal ette at March 20, 2023 12:43 PM (uQPen)
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DeSantis says he "won't get involved" if Trump is indicted.
https://tinyurl.com/yckpekdd
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at March 20, 2023 12:42 PM (sWM8x)
Profile in courage. Absolutely finished.
https://tinyurl.com/yckpekdd
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at March 20, 2023 12:42 PM (sWM8x)
Profile in courage. Absolutely finished.
Posted by: trev006 at March 20, 2023 12:43 PM (DTm0P)
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OR....they think the election was stolen, and they think Trump won, but they don't think he's the strongest candidate going into 2024. Why must everything be a negative about those who support DeSantis?
Posted by: Archimedes at March 20, 2023 12:37 PM (eOEVl)
I'm not being negative about DeSantis supporters, I'm just saying this is not a normal election season, we are coming off of a historic event, a theft of an election. I just think that instead of primaring a duly elected president, they should have supported him and came together, just this one damn time. I like DeSantis and think one day he'll be a good president. I just think that if he throws his hat in this time it's going to hurt him not help him.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 20, 2023 12:37 PM (eOEVl)
I'm not being negative about DeSantis supporters, I'm just saying this is not a normal election season, we are coming off of a historic event, a theft of an election. I just think that instead of primaring a duly elected president, they should have supported him and came together, just this one damn time. I like DeSantis and think one day he'll be a good president. I just think that if he throws his hat in this time it's going to hurt him not help him.
Posted by: spypeach at March 20, 2023 12:43 PM (UuB/1)
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>>>I didn't recognize it as a dig at first glance. Maybe it would've been obvious on a debate stage or in a more direct context, but it read more like "I'm not a lawyer" which seemed like an awkward starting point.
It's more like, "I don't want to get into the mud about this or start vouching for the sexual saintliness of a guy who's been attacking me nonstop since December."
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I think it was obviously meant as some sort of dig. Whether a good one or not is different. Even if it was just to signal what you said Ace.
In the end, I am probably overthinking it. Because it really doesn't matter what DeSantis does, there is a core group of Trump supporters that do not like him - I'm guessing because they see him as a real threat.
It's more like, "I don't want to get into the mud about this or start vouching for the sexual saintliness of a guy who's been attacking me nonstop since December."
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I think it was obviously meant as some sort of dig. Whether a good one or not is different. Even if it was just to signal what you said Ace.
In the end, I am probably overthinking it. Because it really doesn't matter what DeSantis does, there is a core group of Trump supporters that do not like him - I'm guessing because they see him as a real threat.
Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at March 20, 2023 12:43 PM (sX1BW)
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DeSantis says he "won't get involved" if Trump is indicted
I mean... what exactly is he going to do about a New York State case as governor of Florida? Is he gonna put on his suit with the big DS on the chest, fly up there and rescue Trump from prison by bending the jail cell bars?
I mean... what exactly is he going to do about a New York State case as governor of Florida? Is he gonna put on his suit with the big DS on the chest, fly up there and rescue Trump from prison by bending the jail cell bars?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 20, 2023 12:44 PM (0hOvj)
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Holy Shit! You're telling me Trump has murdered 3000 people in NYC over the past 20 years? I wonder if the DA knows about this.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 20, 2023 12:40 PM (z99Zw)
Obama killed about 150k in his useless wars and got the Nobel. Maybe they will a least give PDT the Keys to the City.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 20, 2023 12:40 PM (z99Zw)
Obama killed about 150k in his useless wars and got the Nobel. Maybe they will a least give PDT the Keys to the City.
Posted by: rhennigantx at March 20, 2023 12:44 PM (BRHaw)
Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 20, 2023 12:44 PM (BGev3)
Posted by: JT at March 20, 2023 12:44 PM (T4tVD)
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"Trump has said he'd turn himself in."
Get in a white Bronco in Florida with DeSantis driving, head from Florida toward NYC, gather a massive caravan along the way.
Get in a white Bronco in Florida with DeSantis driving, head from Florida toward NYC, gather a massive caravan along the way.
Posted by: davidt at March 20, 2023 12:44 PM (SYTee)
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308 >>>I didn't recognize it as a dig at first glance. Maybe it would've been obvious on a debate stage or in a more direct context, but it read more like "I'm not a lawyer" which seemed like an awkward starting point.
It's more like, "I don't want to get into the mud about this or start vouching for the sexual saintliness of a guy who's been attacking me nonstop since December."
Posted by: ace at March 20, 2023 12:41 PM (BvUNN)
It's just verbally awkward in the context of the following speech. It's clearer what he was aiming for after it's explained, but in terms of effectiveness needing it to be explained is not a good result.
It's more like, "I don't want to get into the mud about this or start vouching for the sexual saintliness of a guy who's been attacking me nonstop since December."
Posted by: ace at March 20, 2023 12:41 PM (BvUNN)
It's just verbally awkward in the context of the following speech. It's clearer what he was aiming for after it's explained, but in terms of effectiveness needing it to be explained is not a good result.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 20, 2023 12:44 PM (eYoxG)
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Global CBDC. Unified world government with Xi on top.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 20, 2023 12:44 PM (aylmF)
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"...Who would fight to save this country? It's dead, Jim.
People will fight to save themselves. And we're not quite there yet."
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 20, 2023 12:07 PM (oINRc)
I would fight to save this country. I swore an oath. That oath doesn't have an end-date. There are many who feel as I do.
People will fight to save themselves. And we're not quite there yet."
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 20, 2023 12:07 PM (oINRc)
I would fight to save this country. I swore an oath. That oath doesn't have an end-date. There are many who feel as I do.
Posted by: troyriser at March 20, 2023 12:44 PM (7Cx1V)
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"Sen.Ted Cruz and Rep.Chip Roy are holding the FBI accountable."
Oooh....a letter!
Posted by: BignJames at March 20, 2023 12:39 PM (AwYPR)
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If onlthey were U.S. Senators, I'm sure that they would have filibustered for months to hold up all funding to the FBI & DOJ.
Oooh....a letter!
Posted by: BignJames at March 20, 2023 12:39 PM (AwYPR)
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If onlthey were U.S. Senators, I'm sure that they would have filibustered for months to hold up all funding to the FBI & DOJ.
Posted by: ShainS -- The Abolition of The West is from Men Without Chests at March 20, 2023 12:45 PM (vniJK)
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Honestly, I think that's the game, really. Trump is a known entity, the people who dislike him haven't changed their minds, and Biden has already beaten him once. They know Biden's in a weak position but if they can manipulate Trump into another Republican nomination they have a working playbook ready.
They're very, very good at manipulating us.
Posted by: Caiwyn at March 20, 2023 12:43 PM (Bmy9A)
Biden did NOT beat Trump. They may've counted more ballots for Biden, but he did NOT get more votes.
They're very, very good at manipulating us.
Posted by: Caiwyn at March 20, 2023 12:43 PM (Bmy9A)
Biden did NOT beat Trump. They may've counted more ballots for Biden, but he did NOT get more votes.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 20, 2023 12:45 PM (Zz0t1)
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""I don't know what goes into paying hush money to a porn star to secure silence."
DeSantis didnt write that.
His handlers did: Team P.Ryan.
Securing the Lincoln Project Vote.
DeSantis didnt write that.
His handlers did: Team P.Ryan.
Securing the Lincoln Project Vote.
Posted by: mossomo at March 20, 2023 12:45 PM (pky95)
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They want that picture of Trump in cuffs.
If they can get away with more they will try their damnedest.
Posted by: artisanal ette at March 20, 2023 12:43 PM (uQPen)
First person to make a Trump in handcuffs t-shirt becomes an instant millionaire.
If they can get away with more they will try their damnedest.
Posted by: artisanal ette at March 20, 2023 12:43 PM (uQPen)
First person to make a Trump in handcuffs t-shirt becomes an instant millionaire.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 20, 2023 12:45 PM (KbCG3)
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'Now would be a hilariously ironic time for Jimmy Carter to die.'
Being killed by a rabbit would be a hilariously ironic way.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at March 20, 2023 12:42 PM (qVln6)
Look at the bones!
Being killed by a rabbit would be a hilariously ironic way.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at March 20, 2023 12:42 PM (qVln6)
Look at the bones!
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 20, 2023 12:45 PM (yQpMk)
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Whether it's all a (Communist) op, or a distraction, it works. Who's paying serious attention to the Biden Crime Family or the banking system's slow melt?
Miranda Devine for the former. No one for the latter.
Miranda Devine for the former. No one for the latter.
Posted by: Ziba at March 20, 2023 12:45 PM (4h9M3)
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It would be nice if we could stop the food fight and focus on beating these bastards. Trump is not helped with his petty insults toward DeSantis. I don't understand how he doesn't know that.
Posted by: mogsmash at March 20, 2023 12:45 PM (IrNjK)
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Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at March 20, 2023 12:31 PM (sX1BW)
With the preface that elections no longer matter*:
The GOP nomination will not be worth a warm bucket of piss in 2024. As evil as it is--and "evil" is the only word--this political prosecution will hopelessly split the Republican Party. It actually is brilliant in, again, an evil sort of way.
*Even if the impossible happened and someone who intended to change things won, the State would not allow it. That's the takeaway from 2017-2021. It is silly to pretend otherwise. The states will continue to move away from the federal government, which from time to time will get kinetic with them after the next election, but that's about it. 2016 was the last election. And it did not matter.
With the preface that elections no longer matter*:
The GOP nomination will not be worth a warm bucket of piss in 2024. As evil as it is--and "evil" is the only word--this political prosecution will hopelessly split the Republican Party. It actually is brilliant in, again, an evil sort of way.
*Even if the impossible happened and someone who intended to change things won, the State would not allow it. That's the takeaway from 2017-2021. It is silly to pretend otherwise. The states will continue to move away from the federal government, which from time to time will get kinetic with them after the next election, but that's about it. 2016 was the last election. And it did not matter.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at March 20, 2023 12:45 PM (KSNKu)
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@294
>>I know Trump's real core of supporters say they don't believe Stormy Daniels.
Oh I believe Trump slept with Stormy, but in a world where the Meat Puppet currently inhabiting the White House showered with his underage daughter and more than likely banged her, because if you're going to shower with your underage daughter, you're banging your underaged daughter, who in turn sics his LE Apparatus on reporters who were investigating said showering and banging, I just can't work myself up into a lather over two adults doing things that adults sometimes do.
Except the extorting that Stormy did, which is what the Junta inferred Project Veritas was doing over the Ashley Biden "stolen" diary.
>>I know Trump's real core of supporters say they don't believe Stormy Daniels.
Oh I believe Trump slept with Stormy, but in a world where the Meat Puppet currently inhabiting the White House showered with his underage daughter and more than likely banged her, because if you're going to shower with your underage daughter, you're banging your underaged daughter, who in turn sics his LE Apparatus on reporters who were investigating said showering and banging, I just can't work myself up into a lather over two adults doing things that adults sometimes do.
Except the extorting that Stormy did, which is what the Junta inferred Project Veritas was doing over the Ashley Biden "stolen" diary.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 20, 2023 12:46 PM (XFPre)
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The first thing trump is going to do as president is to ask Wray to open an IG investigation into FBI malfeasance.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 20, 2023 12:46 PM (aylmF)
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On Truth Social, a poll was taken to see if Trump's request for protests over his pending arrest was another J6 setup. 85% said yes.
Which is why they went after protesters. To scare people into never protesting again and keeping their heads down.
Now every single event, no matter who promotes it or what has happened, everyone goes "its a TRAP!!!!!" and hides.
now personally, I think protesting is worthless and rioting is counterproductive. But I also think that the left knew very well that they were going to be arrested in the 1950s and 1960s and considered it a badge of honor, that let them go to court and fight their cause. That they knew they'd be arrested, possibly beaten and had dogs set on them if they protested and they did it anyway because they believed in their cause.
Which is why they went after protesters. To scare people into never protesting again and keeping their heads down.
Now every single event, no matter who promotes it or what has happened, everyone goes "its a TRAP!!!!!" and hides.
now personally, I think protesting is worthless and rioting is counterproductive. But I also think that the left knew very well that they were going to be arrested in the 1950s and 1960s and considered it a badge of honor, that let them go to court and fight their cause. That they knew they'd be arrested, possibly beaten and had dogs set on them if they protested and they did it anyway because they believed in their cause.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 20, 2023 12:46 PM (0hOvj)
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For real though this is how Meatball Ron had to play this.
More importantly, I see this as the left attempting to nominate Trump. They think he's beatable. I don't know if that's true, but I think they believe that. They know a significant portion of the R base will vote for him "because Fuck You that's why" if they perp walk him. Doesn't mean its wrong to vote that way - this could be a "throw me in the briar patch" type of deal.
More importantly, I see this as the left attempting to nominate Trump. They think he's beatable. I don't know if that's true, but I think they believe that. They know a significant portion of the R base will vote for him "because Fuck You that's why" if they perp walk him. Doesn't mean its wrong to vote that way - this could be a "throw me in the briar patch" type of deal.
Posted by: Milquetoast Mortgage-Paying Neighbor in Flyover Country at March 20, 2023 12:46 PM (5C4od)
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one thing is for sure
ace would rather lose with Ron than win with Trump
which kinda makes him a NTer
ace would rather lose with Ron than win with Trump
which kinda makes him a NTer
Posted by: REDACTED at March 20, 2023 12:46 PM (us2H3)
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well, there you go. Cernovich should like that profile in courage from DeSantis.
anyway, what can you do.
apparently, this country is biden country and if you don't like it, fella, you gonna meet the fbi
anyway, what can you do.
apparently, this country is biden country and if you don't like it, fella, you gonna meet the fbi
Posted by: sockamster, gator at March 20, 2023 12:46 PM (MLrvz)
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My only gripe with DJT about Daniels is I hoped he had better taste in floozies. She's repulsive.
All powerful men use floozies. Same as it ever was. That won't stop until the Triumph of Woketopia, which is hopefully never.
All powerful men use floozies. Same as it ever was. That won't stop until the Triumph of Woketopia, which is hopefully never.
Posted by: Veni, Vidi, gp at March 20, 2023 12:46 PM (MvF+J)
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What is this 'rule of law' that folks mention?
Posted by: Tonypete
If the donks aren't careful, it could well be from the business end of small arms. Hope we as a nation don't go there, though.
Posted by: Tonypete
If the donks aren't careful, it could well be from the business end of small arms. Hope we as a nation don't go there, though.
Posted by: BifBewalski at March 20, 2023 12:47 PM (3CCua)
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Profile in courage. Absolutely finished.
Posted by: trev006 at March 20, 2023 12:43 PM (DTm0P)
Much as I'd like to see him send out the FL Nat'l Guard to defend Mar-a-Lago, should the arrest actually be attempted, Trump has already said he would turn himself in. So what more is DeSantis supposed to do in that scenario?
Posted by: trev006 at March 20, 2023 12:43 PM (DTm0P)
Much as I'd like to see him send out the FL Nat'l Guard to defend Mar-a-Lago, should the arrest actually be attempted, Trump has already said he would turn himself in. So what more is DeSantis supposed to do in that scenario?
Posted by: Dr. T at March 20, 2023 12:47 PM (jGGMD)
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DeSantis didnt write that.
His handlers did: Team P.Ryan.
Securing the Lincoln Project Vote.
Posted by: mossomo at March 20, 2023 12:45 PM (pky95)
This is just nonsense on stilts, but thanks for sharing never before seen nic.
His handlers did: Team P.Ryan.
Securing the Lincoln Project Vote.
Posted by: mossomo at March 20, 2023 12:45 PM (pky95)
This is just nonsense on stilts, but thanks for sharing never before seen nic.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 20, 2023 12:47 PM (yQpMk)
357
Holy Shit! You're telling me Trump has murdered 3000 people in NYC over the past 20 years?
Well, it certainly wasn't us!
- The Mafia and other assorted drug dealers and other criminal types.
Well, it certainly wasn't us!
- The Mafia and other assorted drug dealers and other criminal types.
Posted by: Archer at March 20, 2023 12:47 PM (gmo/4)
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305 NEW YORK CITY
https://tinyurl.com/3j5mzh49 ... Trump supporters
have shut down 5th Ave right outside Trump Tower.
Posted by: Kathy at March 20,
Nice leaves on those trees.
Summer of 2020?
https://tinyurl.com/3j5mzh49 ... Trump supporters
have shut down 5th Ave right outside Trump Tower.
Posted by: Kathy at March 20,
Nice leaves on those trees.
Summer of 2020?
Posted by: MTG and McCarthy at March 20, 2023 12:48 PM (VRslY)
359
Biden is rapidly turning the world into two blocs - the white people bloc, and the non-white people bloc.
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Robin DiAngelo says "people of color need to get away from white people" ... didn't that get Scott Adams canceled?
https://bit.ly/3FykZ7G
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Robin DiAngelo says "people of color need to get away from white people" ... didn't that get Scott Adams canceled?
https://bit.ly/3FykZ7G
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 20, 2023 12:48 PM (FVME7)
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>I know that no Moron cares about my opinion but, I have to say that I weary of both the EverTrumpers and the NeverTrumpers.
Especially the ones who say the same thing every single fucking day as if they believe it is an incantation.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 20, 2023 12:33 PM (yQpMk)
You nailed it, my man
Especially the ones who say the same thing every single fucking day as if they believe it is an incantation.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 20, 2023 12:33 PM (yQpMk)
You nailed it, my man
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at March 20, 2023 12:48 PM (mGabY)
361
I can see that between now and 2024, it will be the Trump Desantis Wars here. To me, this is expending useless energy. An academic exercise only. Our elections are not free, fair and honest and have progressed to where I believe it will be nearly impossible to overcome the fraud. I won't haggle about who it's going to be, because unless there is some kind of divine intervention, we're screwed electorally.
Posted by: Lady in Black at March 20, 2023 12:48 PM (sVtYq)
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353 My only gripe with DJT about Daniels is I hoped he had better taste in floozies. She's repulsive.
All powerful men use floozies. Same as it ever was. That won't stop until the Triumph of Woketopia, which is hopefully never.
Posted by: Veni, Vidi, gp at March 20, 2023 12:46 PM (MvF+J)
Look at the maid Arnuld engaged in decadence with. TBF, she probably didn't insult Arnuld's "masculinity" like Maria Shriver probably did constantly.
All powerful men use floozies. Same as it ever was. That won't stop until the Triumph of Woketopia, which is hopefully never.
Posted by: Veni, Vidi, gp at March 20, 2023 12:46 PM (MvF+J)
Look at the maid Arnuld engaged in decadence with. TBF, she probably didn't insult Arnuld's "masculinity" like Maria Shriver probably did constantly.
Posted by: Thrawn at March 20, 2023 12:48 PM (Rl7KJ)
363
Oh I believe Trump slept with Stormy, but in a world where the Meat Puppet currently inhabiting the White House showered with his underage daughter and more than likely banged her, because if you're going to shower with your underage daughter, you're banging your underaged daughter, who in turn sics his LE Apparatus on reporters who were investigating said showering and banging, I just can't work myself up into a lather over two adults doing things that adults sometimes do.
Trump's real crime was in choosing to sleep with that disease-ridden bag of silicone when Melania was at home.
Trump's real crime was in choosing to sleep with that disease-ridden bag of silicone when Melania was at home.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 20, 2023 12:48 PM (eOEVl)
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There are many who feel as I do.
Posted by: troyriser at March 20, 2023 12:44 PM (7Cx1V)
I wonder which other Democrats are going to join Gabby Giffords and John Fetterman in the vegetable garden.
Posted by: troyriser at March 20, 2023 12:44 PM (7Cx1V)
I wonder which other Democrats are going to join Gabby Giffords and John Fetterman in the vegetable garden.
Posted by: trev006 at March 20, 2023 12:48 PM (DTm0P)
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Putin Tells Xi He's "Open To Negotiating Process" On Ukraine As US Says Ceasefire "Unacceptable"
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I predict China will get a ceasefire and become Ukraine's new sugar daddy. Zelinsky is a US puppet, so I suspect he's got to go.
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I predict China will get a ceasefire and become Ukraine's new sugar daddy. Zelinsky is a US puppet, so I suspect he's got to go.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 20, 2023 12:48 PM (Y5qcH)
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If Trump was truly one of Putin's stooges, wouldn't Stormy have been greased by a Trolley car years ago?
Posted by: Dr. Bone at March 20, 2023 12:49 PM (Jg7EG)
Posted by: Archer at March 20, 2023 12:49 PM (gmo/4)
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 20, 2023 12:49 PM (yQpMk)
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Steel barricades arriving outside Manhattan Criminal Court! Tomorrow is Orange Tuesday. Lock him up!!!
Proud boys are no match for a proud New Yorkers They'll find their asses in jail & quickly. Ny will not fuck around!
Violence? Bring it on, New York is just in the mood.
When It's All Said And Done - We're Getting Our Hopes Up Again - And I Feel We'll Be Disappointed.
Tr**p has eluded everything. He survived two impeachments. He's still walking around for inciting and insurrection. Why should anything that happens this week - be any different.
Just like Fitzmas and Comey Report - somehow he'll find a way to survive this indictment as well. I feel that the events that will unwrap this week will be anti-climatic.
He achieved what he wanted to last week by saying he would turn himself in tomorrow. He was the center of attention since he made that statement and all the MSM was focused on him. 😔
Proud boys are no match for a proud New Yorkers They'll find their asses in jail & quickly. Ny will not fuck around!
Violence? Bring it on, New York is just in the mood.
When It's All Said And Done - We're Getting Our Hopes Up Again - And I Feel We'll Be Disappointed.
Tr**p has eluded everything. He survived two impeachments. He's still walking around for inciting and insurrection. Why should anything that happens this week - be any different.
Just like Fitzmas and Comey Report - somehow he'll find a way to survive this indictment as well. I feel that the events that will unwrap this week will be anti-climatic.
He achieved what he wanted to last week by saying he would turn himself in tomorrow. He was the center of attention since he made that statement and all the MSM was focused on him. 😔
Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison at March 20, 2023 12:49 PM (JCZqz)
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331 "DeSantis says he "won't get involved" if Trump is indicted"
I mean... what exactly is he going to do about a New York State case as governor of Florida? Is he gonna put on his suit with the big DS on the chest, fly up there and rescue Trump from prison by bending the jail cell bars?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 20, 2023 12:44 PM (0hOvj)
He could say that Florida's AG/lawyers will get involved to defend one of their state citizens/residents against a frivolous case by corrupt NY lawyers. That'd be a step toward greater assertion of the authority of the state government, regardless of actual impact on the individual case.
I mean... what exactly is he going to do about a New York State case as governor of Florida? Is he gonna put on his suit with the big DS on the chest, fly up there and rescue Trump from prison by bending the jail cell bars?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 20, 2023 12:44 PM (0hOvj)
He could say that Florida's AG/lawyers will get involved to defend one of their state citizens/residents against a frivolous case by corrupt NY lawyers. That'd be a step toward greater assertion of the authority of the state government, regardless of actual impact on the individual case.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 20, 2023 12:49 PM (eYoxG)
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This is just nonsense on stilts, but thanks for sharing never before seen nic.
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A whole lotta new nics lately.
This is just nonsense on stilts, but thanks for sharing never before seen nic.
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A whole lotta new nics lately.
Posted by: Lady in Black at March 20, 2023 12:49 PM (sVtYq)
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> Having a coupla billion dollars will make anyone a combination of Hershell Savage and Peter North
Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at March 20, 2023 12:43 PM (flINI)
That's why Sam Bankman-Fried's fucktoy is so hard to figure out.
If I had $8 billion, I'm pretty sure I could come up with a hotter girlfriend than that.
But maybe she does ka-raaayzy kinky shit of the type he likes. I dunno.
Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at March 20, 2023 12:43 PM (flINI)
That's why Sam Bankman-Fried's fucktoy is so hard to figure out.
If I had $8 billion, I'm pretty sure I could come up with a hotter girlfriend than that.
But maybe she does ka-raaayzy kinky shit of the type he likes. I dunno.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at March 20, 2023 12:49 PM (bW8dp)
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NYPD is prepping for "civil disorder" if Bragg goes through with it. 700 riot cops are in the queue and you'd better believe they're going to be given free rein should a crowd form; none of that, "room to destroy" business.
https://bit.ly/3FBLPMq
https://bit.ly/3FBLPMq
Posted by: bonhomme at March 20, 2023 12:49 PM (V1QHJ)
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ace would rather lose with Ron than win with Trump
which kinda makes him a NTer
Posted by: REDACTED at March 20, 2023 12:46 PM (us2H3)
Except for the fact that Ace has said he doesn't believe Trump will or even *can* win, I'd call this a spot-on analysis.
which kinda makes him a NTer
Posted by: REDACTED at March 20, 2023 12:46 PM (us2H3)
Except for the fact that Ace has said he doesn't believe Trump will or even *can* win, I'd call this a spot-on analysis.
Posted by: Dr. T at March 20, 2023 12:49 PM (jGGMD)
375
WH chief of staff Paul Ryan says he has no idea where the leaks from within the Trump admin are coming from.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 20, 2023 12:49 PM (aylmF)
376
Wait -- there's a fourth Biden who received Chinese communist money, now?
If there are only four Bidens, then only four Bidens will have received Chinese communist money.
If there are only four Bidens, then only four Bidens will have received Chinese communist money.
Posted by: t-bird at March 20, 2023 12:49 PM (CaJIi)
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> Is he gonna put on his suit with the big DS on the chest, fly up there and rescue Trump from prison by bending the jail cell bars?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 20, 2023 12:44 PM (0hOvj)
Trump isn't IN New York. He's in Florida. New York cops have no jurisdiction in Florida.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 20, 2023 12:44 PM (0hOvj)
Trump isn't IN New York. He's in Florida. New York cops have no jurisdiction in Florida.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at March 20, 2023 12:50 PM (bW8dp)
378
371 A whole lotta new nics lately.
Posted by: Lady in Black at March 20, 2023 12:49 PM (sVtYq)
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They don't show up to the movie thread, for some reason.
So they are dead to me!
Posted by: Lady in Black at March 20, 2023 12:49 PM (sVtYq)
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They don't show up to the movie thread, for some reason.
So they are dead to me!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 20, 2023 12:50 PM (LvTSG)
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DeSantis didnt write that.
His handlers did: Team P.Ryan.
Securing the Lincoln Project Vote.
Posted by: mossomo at March 20, 2023 12:45 PM (pky95)
So you support Trump paying off a hooker trying to blackmail him?
I don't care that it isn't illegal. And I don't much care at all, but let's not make it some sort of positive for Trump.
His handlers did: Team P.Ryan.
Securing the Lincoln Project Vote.
Posted by: mossomo at March 20, 2023 12:45 PM (pky95)
So you support Trump paying off a hooker trying to blackmail him?
I don't care that it isn't illegal. And I don't much care at all, but let's not make it some sort of positive for Trump.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 20, 2023 12:50 PM (XIJ/X)
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Trump has already said he would turn himself in. So what more is DeSantis supposed to do in that scenario?
Posted by: Dr. T at March 20, 2023 12:47 PM (jGGMD)
"While I know the former president is ready to surrender, and I can't do anything about him leaving the state on his lonesome, I do have some mild concerns that have to be addressed IF the state of Florida is asked to extradite him."
Boom, instant frontrunner.
Posted by: Dr. T at March 20, 2023 12:47 PM (jGGMD)
"While I know the former president is ready to surrender, and I can't do anything about him leaving the state on his lonesome, I do have some mild concerns that have to be addressed IF the state of Florida is asked to extradite him."
Boom, instant frontrunner.
Posted by: trev006 at March 20, 2023 12:51 PM (DTm0P)
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Ted Cruz is the Zodiac Killer.
*touches nose*
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 20, 2023 12:49 PM (yQpMk)
***
*winks*
*nods in the affirmative*
*tugs beard*
*touches nose*
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 20, 2023 12:49 PM (yQpMk)
***
*winks*
*nods in the affirmative*
*tugs beard*
Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at March 20, 2023 12:51 PM (flINI)
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I will not be re-boarding the Trump Train over this, though I do feel that sense that maybe I should, just to teach the left a lesson. Or maybe I should just claim I'm back aboard.
I've never really left. I'd preferred DeSantis (and no one other than him). But warts and all, I'll vote for Trump again. And "fuck you" is definitely a big reason why.
I've never really left. I'd preferred DeSantis (and no one other than him). But warts and all, I'll vote for Trump again. And "fuck you" is definitely a big reason why.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at March 20, 2023 12:51 PM (ppBhU)
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It's Trump who's acting out of order running in DeSantis' year to run, not the other way around.
Posted by: ace at March 20, 2023 12:28 PM (BvUNN)
Just gonna say that this is disturbingly close to "it's his turn".
Posted by: ace at March 20, 2023 12:28 PM (BvUNN)
Just gonna say that this is disturbingly close to "it's his turn".
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 20, 2023 12:51 PM (z99Zw)
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I just hope DeSantis doesn't have indiscretions in his past. Genuinely, I hope that. I think he's a great governor and would be as good as Trump as President.
It will not look good saying "Trump's a perv, heheh" if Skull n' Bones have a tape on you from your time at Yale.
Values voters are weird about that type of stuff. RDS stands to get a chunk of them as Pence and others drop off early on, but if RDS has that type of stuff, even to a much lesser degree, VV will view his denunciation of perv stuff as disingenuous and it will wind up working against him as a hypocrite.
Trump's playboy routine was well known prior to the Stormy stuff, dude's lived a high profile life, supermodel wife, tabloid divorce, runs beauty pageants. They'll actually be glossed over more quickly than playing the squeaky clean family man, only to be sullied later.
It will not look good saying "Trump's a perv, heheh" if Skull n' Bones have a tape on you from your time at Yale.
Values voters are weird about that type of stuff. RDS stands to get a chunk of them as Pence and others drop off early on, but if RDS has that type of stuff, even to a much lesser degree, VV will view his denunciation of perv stuff as disingenuous and it will wind up working against him as a hypocrite.
Trump's playboy routine was well known prior to the Stormy stuff, dude's lived a high profile life, supermodel wife, tabloid divorce, runs beauty pageants. They'll actually be glossed over more quickly than playing the squeaky clean family man, only to be sullied later.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at March 20, 2023 12:51 PM (40DMX)
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They don't show up to the movie thread, for some reason.
So they are dead to me!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 20, 2023 12:50 PM (LvTSG)
There's a movie thread?
They don't show up to the movie thread, for some reason.
So they are dead to me!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 20, 2023 12:50 PM (LvTSG)
There's a movie thread?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 20, 2023 12:51 PM (Zz0t1)
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Crowder's back on Rumble. He's playing recordings of all the private phone calls he's had over the last couple months, and mugging like an idiot about it. /sarc
Posted by: Veni, Vidi, gp at March 20, 2023 12:51 PM (MvF+J)
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Trump isn't IN New York. He's in Florida. New York cops have no jurisdiction in Florida.
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Maybe some of those mysterious satellite Chinese law enforcement centers can round him up and take him to the Rotten Apple.
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Maybe some of those mysterious satellite Chinese law enforcement centers can round him up and take him to the Rotten Apple.
Posted by: Lady in Black at March 20, 2023 12:51 PM (sVtYq)
388
Ron's smart move is to not run and back Trump
he's young and can assume the MAGA crown in 2028
or be VP to Trump
he's young and can assume the MAGA crown in 2028
or be VP to Trump
Posted by: REDACTED at March 20, 2023 12:51 PM (us2H3)
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Yep. I wouldn't be retired now if not for the Trumpconomy of 2019.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 20, 2023 12:25 PM
Ditto. Biden’s economy is why I took Social Security early and now have a part-time job.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 20, 2023 12:25 PM
Ditto. Biden’s economy is why I took Social Security early and now have a part-time job.
Posted by: Moonbeam at March 20, 2023 12:52 PM (rbKZ6)
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Shots fired during eviction notice service in Ballard, WA.
https://bit.ly/3LCO3if
Dood, way to make a bad situation worse. Take the notice, suck it up, and find another place.
https://bit.ly/3LCO3if
Dood, way to make a bad situation worse. Take the notice, suck it up, and find another place.
Posted by: bonhomme at March 20, 2023 12:52 PM (V1QHJ)
391
DT should support RD. RD should support DT as much as they can given the possibility that they both run against each other.
Politics is a contact sport but I want that contact to be at the dem's throats.
Dem's, never trumpers and anti RD's are the enemy.
Along with the anti american institutions out there.
I want to see them all destroyed.
I wish the dem's were as fractured as the r's.
I'll vote DT or SD when the time comes.
Politics is a contact sport but I want that contact to be at the dem's throats.
Dem's, never trumpers and anti RD's are the enemy.
Along with the anti american institutions out there.
I want to see them all destroyed.
I wish the dem's were as fractured as the r's.
I'll vote DT or SD when the time comes.
Posted by: Bosk at March 20, 2023 12:52 PM (ZVuYy)
392
Not to draw too much of a comparison here, but Pontius Pilate > Alvin Bragg.
Posted by: LASue at March 20, 2023 12:52 PM (Ed8Zd)
393
Trump should be arrested just for his bad breath!
Posted by: Dorcus Blimline at March 20, 2023 12:52 PM (iayUP)
394
>Isn't RDS selling a book rn?
Along with Cotton, eyepatch and the others.
It's about enriching themselves.
Posted by: MTG and McCarthy at March 20, 2023 12:39 PM (VRslY)
Good thing that Trump lived a life of poverty and public service, never doing shit like Trump University, Trump Steaks, The Art of the Deal, etc, etc, etc...
Along with Cotton, eyepatch and the others.
It's about enriching themselves.
Posted by: MTG and McCarthy at March 20, 2023 12:39 PM (VRslY)
Good thing that Trump lived a life of poverty and public service, never doing shit like Trump University, Trump Steaks, The Art of the Deal, etc, etc, etc...
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at March 20, 2023 12:52 PM (mGabY)
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which kinda makes him a NTer
I think ACE is just tired of Trump's antics, his bombastic statements, his attacking people because they might be rivals, his bad personnel choices, his failure to follow through on things like arresting Clinton, building the wall (I mean he finally did some but it was slow and felt reluctant), his failure to deal with voter fraud, his backing off on things like withholding money from sanctuary cities (he didn't even try to appeal the decision).
Trump did great things in office, but ultimately he was a gigantic failure and I think ACE wants someone else to give it a shot now. I don't think it was Trump's fault necessarily -- he was up against an entrenched bureaucracy that has utterly rejected loyalty, traditional duty, and the office of the president. Probably nothing can be done, legally at least.
I think ACE is just tired of Trump's antics, his bombastic statements, his attacking people because they might be rivals, his bad personnel choices, his failure to follow through on things like arresting Clinton, building the wall (I mean he finally did some but it was slow and felt reluctant), his failure to deal with voter fraud, his backing off on things like withholding money from sanctuary cities (he didn't even try to appeal the decision).
Trump did great things in office, but ultimately he was a gigantic failure and I think ACE wants someone else to give it a shot now. I don't think it was Trump's fault necessarily -- he was up against an entrenched bureaucracy that has utterly rejected loyalty, traditional duty, and the office of the president. Probably nothing can be done, legally at least.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 20, 2023 12:52 PM (0hOvj)
396
385 There's a movie thread?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 20, 2023 12:51 PM (Zz0t1)
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You should know. You're always first in it.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 20, 2023 12:51 PM (Zz0t1)
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You should know. You're always first in it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 20, 2023 12:52 PM (LvTSG)
397
I know Trump's real core of supporters say they don't believe Stormy Daniels.
his lawyer was on live tv basically admitting that the reason Trump could not say yes, was because that is how the hush contract was written - they weren't allowed to talk about it
geesh
his lawyer was on live tv basically admitting that the reason Trump could not say yes, was because that is how the hush contract was written - they weren't allowed to talk about it
geesh
Posted by: artisanal ette at March 20, 2023 12:52 PM (uQPen)
398
Full disclosure - I'd vote for Trump or Desantis, but frankly, neither one is saying or doing what really needs to be done to fix this nation, so its all band-aid on cancer at this point. That being said, DeSantis better realize that if the Dems can put Agent Orange in a cell over BS charges (or simply run him through 3 more years of "procedure is the punishment"), they can put him in one just as easily. And frankly, if the left (and Bush-RINO GOP) aren't savaging DeSantis like they due Trump, I have to doubt how much of a threat to the Establishment Desantis would actually really be. Much of my support for Trump is he is hated by all the right people, especially in the GOP.
Posted by: Dr. Titanium Whitey, J.D. at March 20, 2023 12:52 PM (i6shs)
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366 If Trump was truly one of Putin's stooges, wouldn't Stormy have been greased by a Trolley car years ago?
Posted by: Dr. Bone at March 20, 2023 12:49 PM (Jg7EG)
Back room butt lift surgery gone wrong.
Posted by: Dr. Bone at March 20, 2023 12:49 PM (Jg7EG)
Back room butt lift surgery gone wrong.
Posted by: Have to make it believable at March 20, 2023 12:52 PM (La8Fd)
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@363
>>Trump's real crime was in choosing to sleep with that disease-ridden bag of silicone when Melania was at home.
Ehh, the flesh is weak, and the Stormy Daniels of 2006 does not resemble the Stormy Daniels of 2020.
Donald Trumps one vice is banging hot adult women, which is more than likely why the pedophiles and maniacs in control despise him so.
>>Trump's real crime was in choosing to sleep with that disease-ridden bag of silicone when Melania was at home.
Ehh, the flesh is weak, and the Stormy Daniels of 2006 does not resemble the Stormy Daniels of 2020.
Donald Trumps one vice is banging hot adult women, which is more than likely why the pedophiles and maniacs in control despise him so.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 20, 2023 12:52 PM (XFPre)
401
This whole case/potential arrest is one of the biggest opportunities the Republican party has had to challenge the status quo. It's something broadly regarded as obvious tyranny and so action is easily justified against it.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 20, 2023 12:53 PM (eYoxG)
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>>>If anyone has a problem with that dig . . . .
DeStablishment really covered himself in glory there.
DeStablishment really covered himself in glory there.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 20, 2023 12:53 PM (PyOKD)
403
Whatever happened to Debbie Wasserman-Shultz? Did she ever wash her hair?
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 20, 2023 12:53 PM (8Sqzu)
404
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You should know. You're always first in it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 20, 2023 12:52 PM (LvTSG)
Huh.
I guess it's high time I start paying attention to the threads I blindly stumble into first overall.
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You should know. You're always first in it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 20, 2023 12:52 PM (LvTSG)
Huh.
I guess it's high time I start paying attention to the threads I blindly stumble into first overall.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 20, 2023 12:54 PM (Zz0t1)
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Just gonna say that this is disturbingly close to "it's his turn".
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No, we all know that had Trump won, most would agree that DeSantis would have earned the right to run in 2024. If Trump were to bow out, most would agree that DeSantis should be the guy.
So no, it is not the same as saying its his turn. Its his turn is a way of saying someone is being foisted upon the base.
Most of the base supports DeSantis - which is not to say they want him over Trump. Just that they support him.
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No, we all know that had Trump won, most would agree that DeSantis would have earned the right to run in 2024. If Trump were to bow out, most would agree that DeSantis should be the guy.
So no, it is not the same as saying its his turn. Its his turn is a way of saying someone is being foisted upon the base.
Most of the base supports DeSantis - which is not to say they want him over Trump. Just that they support him.
Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at March 20, 2023 12:54 PM (sX1BW)
406
394 >Isn't RDS selling a book rn?
Along with Cotton, eyepatch and the others.
It's about enriching themselves.
Posted by: MTG and McCarthy at March 20, 2023 12:39 PM (VRslY)
Good thing that Trump lived a life of poverty and public service, never doing shit like Trump University, Trump Steaks, The Art of the Deal, etc, etc, etc...
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at March 20, 2023 12:52 PM (mGabY)
Getting rich before taking office vs getting rich after taking office tends to be viewed differently.
Along with Cotton, eyepatch and the others.
It's about enriching themselves.
Posted by: MTG and McCarthy at March 20, 2023 12:39 PM (VRslY)
Good thing that Trump lived a life of poverty and public service, never doing shit like Trump University, Trump Steaks, The Art of the Deal, etc, etc, etc...
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at March 20, 2023 12:52 PM (mGabY)
Getting rich before taking office vs getting rich after taking office tends to be viewed differently.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 20, 2023 12:54 PM (eYoxG)
407
> or be VP to Trump
Posted by: REDACTED at March 20, 2023 12:51 PM (us2H3)
That would be nice, if the two of them can get their egos under control enough to permit it.
Posted by: REDACTED at March 20, 2023 12:51 PM (us2H3)
That would be nice, if the two of them can get their egos under control enough to permit it.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at March 20, 2023 12:54 PM (bW8dp)
408
05 NEW YORK CITY
https://tinyurl.com/3j5mzh49 ... Trump supporters
have shut down 5th Ave right outside Trump Tower.
Posted by: Kathy at March 20,
Nice leaves on those trees.
Summer of 2020?
Lots of "Trump 2020" flags in that video, so summer or early fall 2020 is probably when it was shot.
https://tinyurl.com/3j5mzh49 ... Trump supporters
have shut down 5th Ave right outside Trump Tower.
Posted by: Kathy at March 20,
Nice leaves on those trees.
Summer of 2020?
Lots of "Trump 2020" flags in that video, so summer or early fall 2020 is probably when it was shot.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at March 20, 2023 12:54 PM (Bd6X8)
409
There's a movie thread?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 20, 2023 12:51 PM (Zz0t1)
Not last Saturday.
BTW, I recommend a wholesome coming of age comedy called Sadie's Last Days on Earth. Well directed and well acted, and pretty well written.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 20, 2023 12:51 PM (Zz0t1)
Not last Saturday.
BTW, I recommend a wholesome coming of age comedy called Sadie's Last Days on Earth. Well directed and well acted, and pretty well written.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 20, 2023 12:54 PM (yQpMk)
410
Would Trump's security detail sit in a holding cell with him? Seems prudent.
Posted by: illiniwek at March 20, 2023 12:54 PM (Cus5s)
411
401 This whole case/potential arrest is one of the biggest opportunities the Republican party has had to challenge the status quo. It's something broadly regarded as obvious tyranny and so action is easily justified against it.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 20, 2023 12:53 PM (eYoxG)
Can't, busy with amnesty and a sovereign wealth fund to be run by Romney's buddies.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 20, 2023 12:53 PM (eYoxG)
Can't, busy with amnesty and a sovereign wealth fund to be run by Romney's buddies.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 20, 2023 12:54 PM (Y5qcH)
412
How far away are we from Gov Hochul issuing an "emergency do not travel order" because of a public insurrection emergency?
Posted by: Zek at March 20, 2023 12:54 PM (5FPX4)
413
220 EITHER "POLITICS IS A CONTACT SPORT" OR IT'S NOT
Posted by: ace at March 20, 2023 12:29 PM (BvUNN)
Get with the program Ace. Either you ululate with joy at every one of Trump's utterances, or you are a fucking commie GOPe New World Order sellout who should be stoned in the public square.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
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Meh, cuts both ways. I have seen equal invective from the DeSantis crowd. As a former Democrat who finally left the party in the late 80's, I am amused by the prissiness of conservatives about political combat. Perfectly fair play for DeSantis to put in the shiv as it is for Trump to bash DeSantis.
The GOP would have far stronger candidates if they stopped with the plastic corporate type pols and this idea of managed and rigged primaries and nomination processes.
Posted by: ace at March 20, 2023 12:29 PM (BvUNN)
Get with the program Ace. Either you ululate with joy at every one of Trump's utterances, or you are a fucking commie GOPe New World Order sellout who should be stoned in the public square.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
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Meh, cuts both ways. I have seen equal invective from the DeSantis crowd. As a former Democrat who finally left the party in the late 80's, I am amused by the prissiness of conservatives about political combat. Perfectly fair play for DeSantis to put in the shiv as it is for Trump to bash DeSantis.
The GOP would have far stronger candidates if they stopped with the plastic corporate type pols and this idea of managed and rigged primaries and nomination processes.
Posted by: whig at March 20, 2023 12:54 PM (Bmix2)
414
I wonder what would happen if Trump went before a group like the NAACP and said something to effect of, "For years I have heard about how black men are unfairly targeted by the justice system. For years I never took those complaints seriously. Today that is different. Now I am experiencing first hand a justice system that is targeting me unfairly. The same thing is happening to many of my supporters. Whether it's done because of the color of person's skin or because of their politics, it is still wrong. I for one stand here in greater appreciation of the evil done by an injustice system."
Posted by: Eric at March 20, 2023 12:55 PM (a2F+C)
415
If it isn't trump, whoever it is will be subjected to the same or worse than Trump. Unless it is Sununu or Christie, then it will only be about 75%.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 20, 2023 12:55 PM (aylmF)
416
382 I've never really left. I'd preferred DeSantis (and no one other than him). But warts and all, I'll vote for Trump again. And "fuck you" is definitely a big reason why.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at March 20, 2023 12:51 PM
No! There is another...
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at March 20, 2023 12:51 PM
No! There is another...
Posted by: Rand Paul at March 20, 2023 12:55 PM (JCZqz)
417
112
'cost more money to keep a ho's mouth shut than it does to open it'
Wisdom for the ages. Leave it to you to snatch wisdom from the jaws of follishness.
'cost more money to keep a ho's mouth shut than it does to open it'
Wisdom for the ages. Leave it to you to snatch wisdom from the jaws of follishness.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at March 20, 2023 12:55 PM (qVln6)
Posted by: Archer at March 20, 2023 12:55 PM (gmo/4)
419
Wait -- there's a fourth Biden who received Chinese communist money, now?
--
I heard on local talk radio a couple of days ago that the whole family was, up to and including that scrawny little cousin Hunter was banging who said something like "they know we're together"
Even she, Ms. "I don't want a minimum wage job only earning $150K/year" was raking in Chinese influence money.
--
I heard on local talk radio a couple of days ago that the whole family was, up to and including that scrawny little cousin Hunter was banging who said something like "they know we're together"
Even she, Ms. "I don't want a minimum wage job only earning $150K/year" was raking in Chinese influence money.
Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 20, 2023 12:55 PM (BGev3)
420
403 Whatever happened to Debbie Wasserman-Shultz? Did she ever wash her hair?
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 20, 2023 12:53 PM (8Sqzu)
Swapped Hellman's for Duke's. It was not an improvement.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 20, 2023 12:53 PM (8Sqzu)
Swapped Hellman's for Duke's. It was not an improvement.
Posted by: Mayo hair. Gross. at March 20, 2023 12:55 PM (La8Fd)
421
405 Just gonna say that this is disturbingly close to "it's his turn".
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No, we all know that had Trump won, most would agree that DeSantis would have earned the right to run in 2024. If Trump were to bow out, most would agree that DeSantis should be the guy.
So no, it is not the same as saying its his turn. Its his turn is a way of saying someone is being foisted upon the base.
Most of the base supports DeSantis - which is not to say they want him over Trump. Just that they support him.
Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at March 20, 2023 12:54 PM (sX1BW)
You don't have to earn a right to run in the GOP, people just do it. Only Democrats are really structured enough to have a tightly controlled process.
Trump isn't being foisted by the party(unlike say Jeb), he's just running.
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No, we all know that had Trump won, most would agree that DeSantis would have earned the right to run in 2024. If Trump were to bow out, most would agree that DeSantis should be the guy.
So no, it is not the same as saying its his turn. Its his turn is a way of saying someone is being foisted upon the base.
Most of the base supports DeSantis - which is not to say they want him over Trump. Just that they support him.
Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at March 20, 2023 12:54 PM (sX1BW)
You don't have to earn a right to run in the GOP, people just do it. Only Democrats are really structured enough to have a tightly controlled process.
Trump isn't being foisted by the party(unlike say Jeb), he's just running.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 20, 2023 12:55 PM (eYoxG)
422
This whole case/potential arrest is one of the biggest opportunities the Republican party has had to challenge the status quo. It's something broadly regarded as obvious tyranny and so action is easily justified against it.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 20, 2023 12:53 PM (eYoxG)
exactly
this was a gift to the GOP but they won't take it
why upset the apple cart
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 20, 2023 12:53 PM (eYoxG)
exactly
this was a gift to the GOP but they won't take it
why upset the apple cart
Posted by: artisanal ette at March 20, 2023 12:55 PM (uQPen)
423
I'll make the point again- there's an awful lot of state laws. One never knows when one might be breaking one- especially complex, business or campaign related process crimes. If dems want to make it unsafe to be a red pol in a blue state, gops can do the same.
Posted by: Farmer Bob at March 20, 2023 12:55 PM (trVDr)
Posted by: wth at March 20, 2023 12:55 PM (v0R5T)
425
Trump isn't IN New York. He's in Florida. New York cops have no jurisdiction in Florida.
And? You figure the state of Florida should refuse to extradite someone arrested in another state?
And? You figure the state of Florida should refuse to extradite someone arrested in another state?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 20, 2023 12:55 PM (0hOvj)
426
> Donald Trumps one vice is banging hot adult women, which is more than likely why the pedophiles and maniacs in control despise him so.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 20, 2023 12:52 PM (XFPre)
Even the lefties who also like hot adult women (and there are still a few) hate him, because Trump actually gets to bang the hot adult women, rather than just beating off to internet porn.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 20, 2023 12:52 PM (XFPre)
Even the lefties who also like hot adult women (and there are still a few) hate him, because Trump actually gets to bang the hot adult women, rather than just beating off to internet porn.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at March 20, 2023 12:56 PM (bW8dp)
427
Seeing as how my vote is an academic excersize anyway, Maryland, I am fully on board with Trump. No one else will get my vote and if her isn't on the ballot I am staying home.
Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at March 20, 2023 12:29 PM (flINI)
******
What if the people that want DeSantis say, "No one else will get my vote and if DeSantis isn't on the ballot I am staying home!!!"
This is why the Democrats will win and will continue with their open border policies, eliminating gas cars, sexualizing our kids, pushing the trans agenda and CRT, taking away gas stoves, giving reparations to black Americans etc. etc.
Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at March 20, 2023 12:29 PM (flINI)
******
What if the people that want DeSantis say, "No one else will get my vote and if DeSantis isn't on the ballot I am staying home!!!"
This is why the Democrats will win and will continue with their open border policies, eliminating gas cars, sexualizing our kids, pushing the trans agenda and CRT, taking away gas stoves, giving reparations to black Americans etc. etc.
Posted by: redridinghood at March 20, 2023 12:56 PM (NpAcC)
428
Bragg has elevated money-laundering thru your lawyer to a felony. Can't imagine Hillary is thrilled about that.
Posted by: t-bird at March 20, 2023 12:56 PM (CaJIi)
429
414 I wonder what would happen if Trump went before a group like the NAACP and said something to effect of, "For years I have heard about how black men are unfairly targeted by the justice system. For years I never took those complaints seriously. Today that is different. Now I am experiencing first hand a justice system that is targeting me unfairly. The same thing is happening to many of my supporters. Whether it's done because of the color of person's skin or because of their politics, it is still wrong. I for one stand here in greater appreciation of the evil done by an injustice system."
Posted by: Eric at March 20, 2023 12:55 PM (a2F+C)
The NAACP doesn't care. It's a grifting org.
Posted by: Eric at March 20, 2023 12:55 PM (a2F+C)
The NAACP doesn't care. It's a grifting org.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 20, 2023 12:56 PM (eYoxG)
430
Whatever happened to Debbie Wasserman-Shultz? Did she ever wash her hair?
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 20, 2023 12:53 PM (8Sqzu)
***
She can't. Can't you tell wicker when you see it? Pier1 got her all fitted out about 25 years ago
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 20, 2023 12:53 PM (8Sqzu)
***
She can't. Can't you tell wicker when you see it? Pier1 got her all fitted out about 25 years ago
Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at March 20, 2023 12:56 PM (flINI)
431
401 This whole case/potential arrest is one of the biggest opportunities the Republican party has had to challenge the status quo. It's something broadly regarded as obvious tyranny and so action is easily justified against it.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 20, 2023 12:53 PM (eYoxG)
The Left has correctly calculated its so-called opposition will do exactly nothing (at the federal level). But you are 100 percent spot on.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 20, 2023 12:53 PM (eYoxG)
The Left has correctly calculated its so-called opposition will do exactly nothing (at the federal level). But you are 100 percent spot on.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at March 20, 2023 12:56 PM (KSNKu)
432
> You figure the state of Florida should refuse to extradite someone arrested in another state?
I think it could happen, yes.
Why are only leftists allowed to ignore the law?
I think it could happen, yes.
Why are only leftists allowed to ignore the law?
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at March 20, 2023 12:56 PM (bW8dp)
433
They're taking down the signs at Glacier National Park saying that the glaciers would be gone by 2020. Glaciers can be so damn inconsiderate!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 20, 2023 12:56 PM (FVME7)
434
414 I sure as hell hope he doesn't say that, but he's said dumber things.
Posted by: Veni, Vidi, gp at March 20, 2023 12:56 PM (MvF+J)
435
119
'Better: a train off of which I shall not get.'
This the nonsense up with which I will not put.
'Better: a train off of which I shall not get.'
This the nonsense up with which I will not put.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at March 20, 2023 12:57 PM (qVln6)
436
Ditto. Biden’s economy is why I took Social Security early and now have a part-time job.
Posted by: Moonbeam
You can get SS at 29 ?
Who knew ?
Posted by: Moonbeam
You can get SS at 29 ?
Who knew ?
Posted by: JT at March 20, 2023 12:57 PM (T4tVD)
437
Donald Trumps one vice is banging hot adult women, which is more than likely why the pedophiles and maniacs in control despise him so.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 20, 2023 12:52 PM (XFPre)
In fairness, he is also fond of eminent domaining homeowners when he builds casinos.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 20, 2023 12:52 PM (XFPre)
In fairness, he is also fond of eminent domaining homeowners when he builds casinos.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 20, 2023 12:57 PM (yQpMk)
Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 20, 2023 12:57 PM (BGev3)
439
Never before seen nics are Strong with the deSantis Trump threads.
Posted by: runner at March 20, 2023 12:57 PM (EeVCB)
440
Ronna made a half assed response, and the best the GOP could do is RT.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 20, 2023 12:57 PM (aylmF)
441
> > You figure the state of Florida should refuse to extradite someone arrested in another state?
If nothing else, Florida can slow-walk the extradition until Trump has the chance to get it thrown out of court, at whatever level he has to take it.
If nothing else, Florida can slow-walk the extradition until Trump has the chance to get it thrown out of court, at whatever level he has to take it.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at March 20, 2023 12:57 PM (bW8dp)
442
Trump isn't being foisted by the party(unlike say Jeb), he's just running.
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Correct, isn't DeSantis doing the same thing?
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Correct, isn't DeSantis doing the same thing?
Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at March 20, 2023 12:57 PM (sX1BW)
443
oh yeah? What is the statute of limitations on this? And how is he attempting to ignore that?
Posted by: ace
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the word on the street is 2 years.
Bragg is trying to make it a felony so...AFAIK..it could be longer.
Posted by: sockamster, gator at March 20, 2023 12:07 PM (MLrvz)
It's a confusing mess but if I understood him correctly, according to Dershowitz, the DA is trying to take. a misdeamer offense (the "payoff" bookkeeping issue) and morph it into a felony of an undisclosed and improper campaign donation by arguing that the sole (?) reason Trump paid it was because of the upcoming election- not because he didn't want bad publicity generally, to protect his family, etc.. A bizarre and shameful twisting of the law, according to Dershowitz.
Posted by: ace
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the word on the street is 2 years.
Bragg is trying to make it a felony so...AFAIK..it could be longer.
Posted by: sockamster, gator at March 20, 2023 12:07 PM (MLrvz)
It's a confusing mess but if I understood him correctly, according to Dershowitz, the DA is trying to take. a misdeamer offense (the "payoff" bookkeeping issue) and morph it into a felony of an undisclosed and improper campaign donation by arguing that the sole (?) reason Trump paid it was because of the upcoming election- not because he didn't want bad publicity generally, to protect his family, etc.. A bizarre and shameful twisting of the law, according to Dershowitz.
Posted by: LASue at March 20, 2023 12:57 PM (Ed8Zd)
444
378 Perhaps they are just basking in your breakdown and don't feel comfortable until you cover the movie they've seen, like a whole review of the entire MCU including the Disney+shows and Agents of Shield?
Posted by: Bete at March 20, 2023 12:57 PM (QEumK)
445
413 Meh, cuts both ways. I have seen equal invective from the DeSantis crowd...
Posted by: whig at March 20, 2023 12:54 PM
Dude, I saw equal invective from the DeSantis crowd open for Ben Shapiro on The Blaze in 2023!
Posted by: whig at March 20, 2023 12:54 PM
Dude, I saw equal invective from the DeSantis crowd open for Ben Shapiro on The Blaze in 2023!
Posted by: Confused Moron at March 20, 2023 12:58 PM (JCZqz)
446
They aren't fighting for you. Or the country.
They're enriching themselves.
Muh book. Muh t shirts. Muh coffee mugs.
Help me fight the radical left, patriot!
They're enriching themselves.
Muh book. Muh t shirts. Muh coffee mugs.
Help me fight the radical left, patriot!
Posted by: MTG and McCarthy at March 20, 2023 12:58 PM (VRslY)
447
There's not going to be a civil war. We'll bitch about it as usual but do nothing. Best to hunker down and try to weather the inevitable crash.
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at March 20, 2023 12:19 PM (mGabY)
This. I'm wondering if the 2nd Amendment is a useless Constitutional appendage that won't make a bit of difference after all is said and done. The American fighting spirit has been replaced by whimpering complacency, well manifested in the Wuflu operation.
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at March 20, 2023 12:19 PM (mGabY)
This. I'm wondering if the 2nd Amendment is a useless Constitutional appendage that won't make a bit of difference after all is said and done. The American fighting spirit has been replaced by whimpering complacency, well manifested in the Wuflu operation.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at March 20, 2023 12:58 PM (BdMk6)
448
Biden did NOT beat Trump. They may've counted more ballots for Biden, but he did NOT get more votes.
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I'm certain there was cheating but it doesn't explain the difference. The dems paid hundreds of millions of dollars to collect those votes and they are prepared to do so again.
2016 can't be repeated. Trump can win and he'll probably figure it out if he runs in 2024 but only if he harvests ballots.
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I'm certain there was cheating but it doesn't explain the difference. The dems paid hundreds of millions of dollars to collect those votes and they are prepared to do so again.
2016 can't be repeated. Trump can win and he'll probably figure it out if he runs in 2024 but only if he harvests ballots.
Posted by: MJ at March 20, 2023 12:58 PM (zwDuR)
449
420 403 Whatever happened to Debbie Wasserman-Shultz? Did she ever wash her hair?
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 20, 2023 12:53 PM (8Sqzu)
Swapped Hellman's for Duke's. It was not an improvement.
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She must be on a budget now a days.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 20, 2023 12:53 PM (8Sqzu)
Swapped Hellman's for Duke's. It was not an improvement.
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She must be on a budget now a days.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 20, 2023 12:58 PM (8Sqzu)
450
This whole case/potential arrest is one of the biggest opportunities the Republican party has had to challenge the status quo.
Woohoo! Let's get the grift going again, boys!
Woohoo! Let's get the grift going again, boys!
Posted by: The GOPe at March 20, 2023 12:58 PM (ptElO)
451
And? You figure the state of Florida should refuse to extradite someone arrested in another state?
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Wouldn't that involve FLA LEO to take Trump into custody? I think the Dems love that DeSantis is forced to decide what to do if that's the case.
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Wouldn't that involve FLA LEO to take Trump into custody? I think the Dems love that DeSantis is forced to decide what to do if that's the case.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at March 20, 2023 12:58 PM (fs1hN)
452
425 "Trump isn't IN New York. He's in Florida. New York cops have no jurisdiction in Florida."
And? You figure the state of Florida should refuse to extradite someone arrested in another state?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 20, 2023 12:55 PM (0hOvj)
Yes. That'd be a huge win for the national divorce and what follows. Remember in 2020 when states couldn't sue each other?
And? You figure the state of Florida should refuse to extradite someone arrested in another state?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 20, 2023 12:55 PM (0hOvj)
Yes. That'd be a huge win for the national divorce and what follows. Remember in 2020 when states couldn't sue each other?
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 20, 2023 12:58 PM (eYoxG)
453
Anyone else old enough to remember "stay out of our bedrooms!!!"?
Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 20, 2023 12:57 PM (BGev3)
They didn't stay in their bedrooms.
Anyone else old enough to remember "stay out of our bedrooms!!!"?
Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 20, 2023 12:57 PM (BGev3)
They didn't stay in their bedrooms.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 20, 2023 12:58 PM (Zz0t1)
454
But... I'm sick of this claim that Trump can attack DeSantis because DeSantis isn't "loyal" to a MAN HE BARELY KNOWS and DeSantis can't hit back because of this strange concept of loyalty.
Posted by: ace at March 20, 2023 12:33 PM (BvUNN)
I prefer Trump. That having been said, Trump has a ball buster personality. If RDS spends some time busting Trump's balls, I got no problem with that.
People are too fucking sensitive.
Posted by: ace at March 20, 2023 12:33 PM (BvUNN)
I prefer Trump. That having been said, Trump has a ball buster personality. If RDS spends some time busting Trump's balls, I got no problem with that.
People are too fucking sensitive.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 20, 2023 12:58 PM (z99Zw)
455
Bragg has elevated money-laundering thru your lawyer to a felony. Can't imagine Hillary is thrilled about that.
I don't think Hitlery is worried about it in the least. Bragg most likely meets the Comey definition of "No reasonable prosecutor," meaning that he won't charge a Democrat.
I don't think Hitlery is worried about it in the least. Bragg most likely meets the Comey definition of "No reasonable prosecutor," meaning that he won't charge a Democrat.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at March 20, 2023 12:59 PM (Bd6X8)
456
Donald Trumps one vice is banging hot adult women, which is more than likely why the pedophiles and maniacs in control despise him so.
Yeah but he seems to have given it up like 15 years ago.
But Stormy Daniels admitted in an interview that Trump never had an affair with her. So either she was lying in the past, or she's lying now. I know which seems more likely to me, given Trump's usuall type.
Yeah but he seems to have given it up like 15 years ago.
But Stormy Daniels admitted in an interview that Trump never had an affair with her. So either she was lying in the past, or she's lying now. I know which seems more likely to me, given Trump's usuall type.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 20, 2023 12:59 PM (0hOvj)
457
You don't pay a whore for sex, you pay her to go away afterwards.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) reminds you at March 20, 2023 12:59 PM (yQpMk)
458
451 And? You figure the state of Florida should refuse to extradite someone arrested in another state?
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Wouldn't that involve FLA LEO to take Trump into custody? I think the Dems love that DeSantis is forced to decide what to do if that's the case.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at March 20, 2023 12:58 PM (fs1hN)
No, they just need to deny physical entry to Florida to NY LEO. Criminals flee to Cuba or Mexico to avoid extradition, doesn't mean the government arrests them.
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Wouldn't that involve FLA LEO to take Trump into custody? I think the Dems love that DeSantis is forced to decide what to do if that's the case.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at March 20, 2023 12:58 PM (fs1hN)
No, they just need to deny physical entry to Florida to NY LEO. Criminals flee to Cuba or Mexico to avoid extradition, doesn't mean the government arrests them.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 20, 2023 12:59 PM (eYoxG)
459
What is happening in this country reminds me of the re-make of 'The Magnificent 7' that I watched last night.
Ruthless owner and his henchmen - Biden Admin./Soros/WEF
Sheriff = weaponized agencies against Americans
Townspeople = Conservative American citizens
A bloody but good ending. I wonder how our story will go.
Ruthless owner and his henchmen - Biden Admin./Soros/WEF
Sheriff = weaponized agencies against Americans
Townspeople = Conservative American citizens
A bloody but good ending. I wonder how our story will go.
Posted by: Cheri at March 20, 2023 12:59 PM (oiNtH)
460
> Swapped Hellman's for Duke's. It was not an improvement.
I'd guess a store-brand Miracle Whip clone.
And not a store brand from a quality store.
I'd guess a store-brand Miracle Whip clone.
And not a store brand from a quality store.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at March 20, 2023 12:59 PM (bW8dp)
461
I just hope DeSantis doesn't have indiscretions in his past.
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If he doesn't, they'll just make shit up.
I have it on good authority (Gloria Allred), that, as a 7-year-old, Heavy D raped Christine Ballsy-Ford multiple times at Florida rate parties.
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If he doesn't, they'll just make shit up.
I have it on good authority (Gloria Allred), that, as a 7-year-old, Heavy D raped Christine Ballsy-Ford multiple times at Florida rate parties.
Posted by: ShainS -- The Abolition of The West is from Men Without Chests at March 20, 2023 12:59 PM (IRJgV)
462
Voting is not going to fix our problems.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 20, 2023 01:00 PM (DMyTF)
463
The dems paid hundreds of millions of dollars to collect those votes and they are prepared to do so again.
One of our better investments, well worth the expense.
Oh, by the way, thank you for paying your taxes...
One of our better investments, well worth the expense.
Oh, by the way, thank you for paying your taxes...
Posted by: Dems at March 20, 2023 01:00 PM (ptElO)
464
@437
>>In fairness, he is also fond of eminent domaining homeowners when he builds casinos.
Well, technically, a private citizen cannot eminent domain anything, the KELO decision not withstanding.
He did build a casino around Vera Coking's house, which is funny to see.
I believe she got paid off in the end, so there's a happy little coda after all.
>>In fairness, he is also fond of eminent domaining homeowners when he builds casinos.
Well, technically, a private citizen cannot eminent domain anything, the KELO decision not withstanding.
He did build a casino around Vera Coking's house, which is funny to see.
I believe she got paid off in the end, so there's a happy little coda after all.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 20, 2023 01:00 PM (XFPre)
465
Can I get some of that Chinese influence money?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 20, 2023 01:00 PM (aylmF)
466
I know that no Moron cares about my opinion but, I have to say that I weary of both the EverTrumpers and the NeverTrumpers.
Especially the ones who say the same thing every single fucking day as if they believe it is an incantation.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 20, 2023 12:33 PM (yQpMk)
Klaatu barada nikto
Especially the ones who say the same thing every single fucking day as if they believe it is an incantation.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 20, 2023 12:33 PM (yQpMk)
Klaatu barada nikto
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 20, 2023 01:00 PM (z99Zw)
467
441 > > You figure the state of Florida should refuse to extradite someone arrested in another state?
If nothing else, Florida can slow-walk the extradition until Trump has the chance to get it thrown out of court, at whatever level he has to take it.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at March 20, 2023 12:57 PM (bW8dp)
It's a great chance for Florida to assert sovereignty.
If nothing else, Florida can slow-walk the extradition until Trump has the chance to get it thrown out of court, at whatever level he has to take it.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at March 20, 2023 12:57 PM (bW8dp)
It's a great chance for Florida to assert sovereignty.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 20, 2023 01:00 PM (eYoxG)
468
I saw Florida Rate Parties open for Pantera at Monsters of Metal in '93.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 20, 2023 01:01 PM (Zz0t1)
469
Yes. That'd be a huge win for the national divorce and what follows.
A governor has responsibilities and duties to the law, to their state, and to the nation as a whole. Blowing off the law so that the FBI flies in and black bags the guy anyway making you look idiotic and weak does not help with any of those things. Blocking an arrest does not help the cause.
A governor has responsibilities and duties to the law, to their state, and to the nation as a whole. Blowing off the law so that the FBI flies in and black bags the guy anyway making you look idiotic and weak does not help with any of those things. Blocking an arrest does not help the cause.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 20, 2023 01:01 PM (0hOvj)
470
The American fighting spirit has been replaced by whimpering complacency, well manifested in the Wuflu operation.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at March 20, 2023 12:58 PM (BdMk6)
I politely disagree with that statement. People will fight only when there is only no peaceful alternative. We're not even close to that yet. Many here will probably disagree with me, but that is how I see it.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at March 20, 2023 12:58 PM (BdMk6)
I politely disagree with that statement. People will fight only when there is only no peaceful alternative. We're not even close to that yet. Many here will probably disagree with me, but that is how I see it.
Posted by: Archer at March 20, 2023 01:01 PM (gmo/4)
471
Trump endorsed Desantis in the primary and then campaigned for him in his run for governor -- both times he helped him win. This is undeniable.
Desantis is disloyal and is listening to the idiot donor class and consultants who are running his campaign aground. That dig was unnecessary -- again, w/o Trump, Desantis is a working in a law firm. Period.
Desantis is disloyal and is listening to the idiot donor class and consultants who are running his campaign aground. That dig was unnecessary -- again, w/o Trump, Desantis is a working in a law firm. Period.
Posted by: Cory C at March 20, 2023 01:01 PM (eni3w)
472
428 Bragg has elevated money-laundering thru your lawyer to a felony. Can't imagine Hillary is thrilled about that.
Posted by: t-bird at March 20, 2023 12:56 PM
Lol...like we're subject to prosecution of petty laws meant to keep challengers to our authority in line!
Posted by: t-bird at March 20, 2023 12:56 PM
Lol...like we're subject to prosecution of petty laws meant to keep challengers to our authority in line!
Posted by: Your Uniparty Betters at March 20, 2023 01:01 PM (JCZqz)
473
> They didn't stay in their bedrooms.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 20, 2023 12:58 PM (Zz0t1)
Indeed. "Your bedroom" is not "in a public school in front of an audience of children". Keep the naked twerking at home, trannies, and we won't have a problem.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 20, 2023 12:58 PM (Zz0t1)
Indeed. "Your bedroom" is not "in a public school in front of an audience of children". Keep the naked twerking at home, trannies, and we won't have a problem.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at March 20, 2023 01:01 PM (bW8dp)
474
Meh, cuts both ways. I have seen equal invective from the DeSantis crowd. As a former Democrat who finally left the party in the late 80's, I am amused by the prissiness of conservatives about political combat. Perfectly fair play for DeSantis to put in the shiv as it is for Trump to bash DeSantis.
The GOP would have far stronger candidates if they stopped with the plastic corporate type pols and this idea of managed and rigged primaries and nomination processes.
Posted by: whig at March 20, 2023 12:54 PM (Bmix2)
DeSantis supporters appear angry that he has given up the one thing that they thought he had over Trump. Respectability.
LMAO. He's a pol, people. And an establishment pol, at that. Might as well rah rah Lindsey Effing Graham, while you're at it.
The GOP would have far stronger candidates if they stopped with the plastic corporate type pols and this idea of managed and rigged primaries and nomination processes.
Posted by: whig at March 20, 2023 12:54 PM (Bmix2)
DeSantis supporters appear angry that he has given up the one thing that they thought he had over Trump. Respectability.
LMAO. He's a pol, people. And an establishment pol, at that. Might as well rah rah Lindsey Effing Graham, while you're at it.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 20, 2023 01:01 PM (PyOKD)
475
Should Trump take a cognitive test, or whatever it's called?
Posted by: runner at March 20, 2023 01:01 PM (EeVCB)
476
It's a great chance for Florida to assert sovereignty.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 20, 2023 01:00 PM (eYoxG)
Deploy the National Guard to defend Mir-a-Lago.
It'd be awesome.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 20, 2023 01:00 PM (eYoxG)
Deploy the National Guard to defend Mir-a-Lago.
It'd be awesome.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at March 20, 2023 01:02 PM (40DMX)
477
And? You figure the state of Florida should refuse to extradite someone arrested in another state?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 20, 2023 12:55 PM (0hOvj)
You don't start with refusing. Merely by pointing out the weaknesses of the civil case, (De)Santis could keep New York prosecutors making the case for months before ultimately refusing. This case can't stand scrutiny outside a blue state show trial.
RDS's problem is that his New York backers will instantly pull the plug if he sends even a hint that he isn't totally controllable. They hate Trump too much to give RDS some slack on his leash. Which absolutely destroys any value (De)Santis has as a MAGA pretender.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 20, 2023 12:55 PM (0hOvj)
You don't start with refusing. Merely by pointing out the weaknesses of the civil case, (De)Santis could keep New York prosecutors making the case for months before ultimately refusing. This case can't stand scrutiny outside a blue state show trial.
RDS's problem is that his New York backers will instantly pull the plug if he sends even a hint that he isn't totally controllable. They hate Trump too much to give RDS some slack on his leash. Which absolutely destroys any value (De)Santis has as a MAGA pretender.
Posted by: trev006 at March 20, 2023 01:02 PM (DTm0P)
478
hah, if the "full faith and credit clause" were worth anything, my CCL would be good in all 50 states.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - we are being gaslighted 24/365 at March 20, 2023 12:34 PM (QNv15)
Preach!
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - we are being gaslighted 24/365 at March 20, 2023 12:34 PM (QNv15)
Preach!
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 20, 2023 01:02 PM (z99Zw)
479
Hope there's not a war 'cause Democrats have F-15's and such.
Biden's word as a Biden.
Posted by: Auspex at March 20, 2023 12:21 PM (QarLh)
........
They're gonna need more tranny pilots.
Biden's word as a Biden.
Posted by: Auspex at March 20, 2023 12:21 PM (QarLh)
........
They're gonna need more tranny pilots.
Posted by: wth at March 20, 2023 01:02 PM (v0R5T)
480
> Blowing off the law so that the FBI flies in and black bags the guy anyway making you look idiotic and weak does not help with any of those things.
The FBI guys could be jailed as well.
Again: why do only leftist shitholes get to ignore the law?
The FBI guys could be jailed as well.
Again: why do only leftist shitholes get to ignore the law?
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at March 20, 2023 01:02 PM (bW8dp)
481
471 Trump endorsed Desantis in the primary and then campaigned for him in his run for governor -- both times he helped him win. This is undeniable.
Desantis is disloyal and is listening to the idiot donor class and consultants who are running his campaign aground. That dig was unnecessary -- again, w/o Trump, Desantis is a working in a law firm. Period.
Posted by: Cory C at March 20, 2023 01:01 PM (eni3w)
It's almost like the world stopped in 2016.
Desantis is disloyal and is listening to the idiot donor class and consultants who are running his campaign aground. That dig was unnecessary -- again, w/o Trump, Desantis is a working in a law firm. Period.
Posted by: Cory C at March 20, 2023 01:01 PM (eni3w)
It's almost like the world stopped in 2016.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 20, 2023 01:02 PM (KbCG3)
482
Shots fired during eviction notice service in Ballard, WA.
https://bit.ly/3LCO3if
Dood, way to make a bad situation worse. Take the notice, suck it up, and find another place.
Posted by: bonhomme at March 20, 2023 12:52 PM (V1QHJ)
Ballard Danes- less dangerous with a gun than with a car!
https://bit.ly/3LCO3if
Dood, way to make a bad situation worse. Take the notice, suck it up, and find another place.
Posted by: bonhomme at March 20, 2023 12:52 PM (V1QHJ)
Ballard Danes- less dangerous with a gun than with a car!
Posted by: LASue at March 20, 2023 01:02 PM (Ed8Zd)
483
428 Bragg has elevated money-laundering thru your lawyer to a felony. Can't imagine Hillary is thrilled about that.
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Bragg does what I tell him to do!
*hic*
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Bragg does what I tell him to do!
*hic*
Posted by: Hillary's Vodka Soaked Mumu at March 20, 2023 01:02 PM (fs1hN)
484
>I know Trump's real core of supporters say they don't believe Stormy Daniels.
If Stormy Daniels could prove she had a sexual relationship with Donald Trump why did she settled for a mere $130,000.
She knew or at least thought by reputation he was a multimillionaire.
If Stormy Daniels could prove she had a sexual relationship with Donald Trump why did she settled for a mere $130,000.
She knew or at least thought by reputation he was a multimillionaire.
Posted by: old chick at March 20, 2023 01:02 PM (sOete)
485
DeSantis has all the right in the world to fire at anyone he wants. I just hope he remembers that he has never taken an economic risk in his life. People in business see that weakness.
Posted by: Danimal28 at March 20, 2023 01:02 PM (klw0w)
486
Check out this revealing graph, broken down by sex, age, and political leanings, representing the affirmative answer to the question, "Has a doctor or healthcare provider ever told you that you have a mental health condition?"
https://bit.ly/3yWOrQU
Observation: young women across the spectrum be crazy.
Additional observation: the more leftist, the crazier.
https://bit.ly/3yWOrQU
Observation: young women across the spectrum be crazy.
Additional observation: the more leftist, the crazier.
Posted by: bonhomme at March 20, 2023 01:02 PM (V1QHJ)
487
Am I too late for Trump wars ?
Posted by: It's me donna at March 20, 2023 01:03 PM (bs+z0)
488
Swapped Hellman's for Duke's. It was not an improvement.
I ordered both in sample size and they tasted exactly the same: not nearly as good as home made.
I ordered both in sample size and they tasted exactly the same: not nearly as good as home made.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 20, 2023 01:03 PM (0hOvj)
489
You want loyalty? Buy a dog.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) reminds you at March 20, 2023 01:03 PM (yQpMk)
490
442 Trump isn't being foisted by the party(unlike say Jeb), he's just running.
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Correct, isn't DeSantis doing the same thing?
Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at March 20, 2023 12:57 PM (sX1BW)
Yeah. As I've said a few times the GOP isn't structured in such a way that other nominees besides a designated one are expected to stand aside. Usually an existing president, but that's it.
The case that DeSantis owes politically loyalty to Trump and therefore shouldn't run is fuzzy at best since such a conflict hasn't really come up before, and the degree of loyalty expected in exchange for support tends not to be very high in the GOP.
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Correct, isn't DeSantis doing the same thing?
Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at March 20, 2023 12:57 PM (sX1BW)
Yeah. As I've said a few times the GOP isn't structured in such a way that other nominees besides a designated one are expected to stand aside. Usually an existing president, but that's it.
The case that DeSantis owes politically loyalty to Trump and therefore shouldn't run is fuzzy at best since such a conflict hasn't really come up before, and the degree of loyalty expected in exchange for support tends not to be very high in the GOP.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 20, 2023 01:03 PM (eYoxG)
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at March 20, 2023 01:03 PM (bW8dp)
492
I know Trump's real core of supporters say they don't believe Stormy Daniels.
If Stormy Daniels could prove she had a sexual relationship with Donald Trump why did she settled for a mere $130,000.
She knew or at least thought by reputation he was a multimillionaire.
Posted by: old chick at March 20, 2023 01:02 PM (sOete)
To be very specific, I don't believe he had intercourse with her.
If Stormy Daniels could prove she had a sexual relationship with Donald Trump why did she settled for a mere $130,000.
She knew or at least thought by reputation he was a multimillionaire.
Posted by: old chick at March 20, 2023 01:02 PM (sOete)
To be very specific, I don't believe he had intercourse with her.
Posted by: LASue at March 20, 2023 01:03 PM (Ed8Zd)
493
i have on good authority that the left will not magnify Ron's foibles
with Trump gone, all the norms wil return
with Trump gone, all the norms wil return
Posted by: REDACTED at March 20, 2023 01:04 PM (us2H3)
Posted by: Dr. Claw at March 20, 2023 01:04 PM (qVln6)
495
I just hope DeSantis doesn't have indiscretions in his past.
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If he doesn't, they'll just make shit up.
I saw him hanging round Hickory House.
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If he doesn't, they'll just make shit up.
I saw him hanging round Hickory House.
Posted by: goody bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at March 20, 2023 01:04 PM (ppBhU)
496
I can separate the two distinct thoughts of "this is bullshit lawfare of a 3rd world country" with "therefore, we need to make Trump our nominee to show them"
To me, this is an obvious play by Dems to make Trump our nominee once again. I mean the Dems have beat him soundly in back to back elections, why not make it 3? But I guess some people can't see the bigger game here.
That being said, it is rich when Trump tries to attack DeSantis for sexual immorality when we're talking about Trump paying off a porn star to keep her mouth shut. And then had the idiocy to sue her for violating her NDA.
To me, this is an obvious play by Dems to make Trump our nominee once again. I mean the Dems have beat him soundly in back to back elections, why not make it 3? But I guess some people can't see the bigger game here.
That being said, it is rich when Trump tries to attack DeSantis for sexual immorality when we're talking about Trump paying off a porn star to keep her mouth shut. And then had the idiocy to sue her for violating her NDA.
Posted by: Blago at March 20, 2023 01:04 PM (cOFom)
497
How are we supposed to "GET IT ON!" when our spiritual facilitator, the Buffalo Shaman, has been squirreled away in confinement?
Posted by: Dr. Bone at March 20, 2023 01:04 PM (Jg7EG)
498
I fervently hope there remains a political solution to this but it sure looks as if the possibility is dwindling rapidly.
So be it then I'll do my part to fulfill the oath to protect and defend we swore. The consequences will be what they will be.
I have faith that the good guys will prevail as we have so many other times in our history. After all it's part of our heritage to continue the struggle that ensures our Republic endures.
So be it then I'll do my part to fulfill the oath to protect and defend we swore. The consequences will be what they will be.
I have faith that the good guys will prevail as we have so many other times in our history. After all it's part of our heritage to continue the struggle that ensures our Republic endures.
Posted by: irongrampa at March 20, 2023 01:04 PM (KATBx)
499
A group funded by Ben & Jerry’s founder Ben Cohen is running a media campaign against U.S. military support for Ukraine. The organization—Eisenhower Media Network (EMN)—has been reaching out to reporters to push claims that the U.S. is spending too much money trying to help Ukraine fight off Vladimir Putin’s invasion.
Posted by: SMOD at March 20, 2023 01:04 PM (RHGPo)
500
Biden did NOT beat Trump. They may've counted more ballots for Biden, but he did NOT get more votes.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 20, 2023 12:45 PM (Zz0t1)
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I'm not disputing that. But the winner is the one who sits in the oval office and signs legislation. You can say Biden didn't beat Trump, but you're playing a different game with different rules than they are. He absolutely beat Trump at the game that was actually being played.
My point still stands: the Dems want him to get the nomination because they have a winning playbook to use against him and they can run it as many times as they like.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 20, 2023 12:45 PM (Zz0t1)
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I'm not disputing that. But the winner is the one who sits in the oval office and signs legislation. You can say Biden didn't beat Trump, but you're playing a different game with different rules than they are. He absolutely beat Trump at the game that was actually being played.
My point still stands: the Dems want him to get the nomination because they have a winning playbook to use against him and they can run it as many times as they like.
Posted by: Caiwyn at March 20, 2023 01:05 PM (Bmy9A)
501
Observation: young women across the spectrum be crazy.
Additional observation: the more leftist, the crazier.
And too many women think they are crazy or have been told they are crazy by doctors no matter what their political affiliation.
This isn't clown world. Its Madworld. And big Pharma is raking in the cash on medications given to people to "help them" with their diagnosed mental illness.
Additional observation: the more leftist, the crazier.
And too many women think they are crazy or have been told they are crazy by doctors no matter what their political affiliation.
This isn't clown world. Its Madworld. And big Pharma is raking in the cash on medications given to people to "help them" with their diagnosed mental illness.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 20, 2023 01:05 PM (0hOvj)
502
The whole "Trump loyalist's" canard amuses me, I voted for Trump in 2016 and 2020, I see no reason to abandon him at this point.
Come hell or high water, he is the incumbent, and I will vote for him in 2024.
And that's the name of that tune.
** Funk Music Plays in Background **
** Cockatu lands on shoulder **
** Bender struts away in his platform shoes and purple boa **
Come hell or high water, he is the incumbent, and I will vote for him in 2024.
And that's the name of that tune.
** Funk Music Plays in Background **
** Cockatu lands on shoulder **
** Bender struts away in his platform shoes and purple boa **
Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 20, 2023 01:05 PM (XFPre)
503
Of course they intend to stir the pot against both Trump and DeSantis, and well before the average citizen feels the full impact of government & the economy.
First, The UK Guardian, March 16, 2023: Federal prosecutors warn court of potential deluge of January 6 charges – report Court officials estimate another 700 to 1,200 defendants could face charges as editor of New York Jewish newspaper arrested.
Second, the question, "What did Trump do for the 1/6 protestors?"
Third, now in as far as Alvin, remember there was also NYC Mayor de Blasio/Warren Wilhelm Jr. who, in so many ways, was controlled (police reform, moving toward green, vegan & animal rights) by rap mogul Russell Simmons & his family. (Simmons is/was a BFF of the Os. Fascinating life and sphere of influence.)
Fourth: Union Workers Celebrate End Of ‘Right To Work’ Laws In Michigan. Unions will be playing heavily against DeSantis if he runs for President 2024.
Keep cool, stay involved locally.
First, The UK Guardian, March 16, 2023: Federal prosecutors warn court of potential deluge of January 6 charges – report Court officials estimate another 700 to 1,200 defendants could face charges as editor of New York Jewish newspaper arrested.
Second, the question, "What did Trump do for the 1/6 protestors?"
Third, now in as far as Alvin, remember there was also NYC Mayor de Blasio/Warren Wilhelm Jr. who, in so many ways, was controlled (police reform, moving toward green, vegan & animal rights) by rap mogul Russell Simmons & his family. (Simmons is/was a BFF of the Os. Fascinating life and sphere of influence.)
Fourth: Union Workers Celebrate End Of ‘Right To Work’ Laws In Michigan. Unions will be playing heavily against DeSantis if he runs for President 2024.
Keep cool, stay involved locally.
Posted by: Lola - free Jacob Chansley at March 20, 2023 01:05 PM (GshMh)
504
Misdemeanors aren't extradictable AFAIK.
Wobblers? I don't know if that's been litigated.
Wobblers? I don't know if that's been litigated.
Posted by: torabora at March 20, 2023 01:05 PM (OUiUM)
Posted by: Ken at March 20, 2023 01:05 PM (ZqX6O)
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at March 20, 2023 01:05 PM (Bd6X8)
507
On the DNC website you can create a list of local registered voters, then filter that list to remove those with bad addresses. Compare the two lists, and you have a handy guide to votes that you can "harvest".
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 20, 2023 01:06 PM (aylmF)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 20, 2023 01:06 PM (LvTSG)
509
I don't think Hitlery is worried about it in the least. Bragg most likely meets the Comey definition of "No reasonable prosecutor," meaning that he won't charge a Democrat.
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No reasonable prosecutor... that knows what's good for them.
*Hic*
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No reasonable prosecutor... that knows what's good for them.
*Hic*
Posted by: Hillary's Vodka Soaked Mumu at March 20, 2023 01:06 PM (fs1hN)
510
I wonder how many modern sporting rifles are owned by citizens in the tristate area? 1M? 10M?
Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 20, 2023 01:06 PM (DMyTF)
511
In fairness, he is also fond of eminent domaining homeowners when he builds casinos.
Posted by: G'rump928(c)
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That story gets a lot more complex if you actually look into the details and the players involved. Turns out it was one homeowner that wanted a lot more money than the property was worth and figuring that it would be torn down anyway was not keeping the property up. The city was the one pursuing the eminent domain for a parking lot. The ironic thing is that Coker could have received a lot more money by selling to Bob Guccione who started the whole thing in 78 and would pay her 1 mill in the late seventies for the property. The daughter tried to sell the property for 5 million, then 1 million in the 2000's--ultimately it brough 583k in 2014 just before the Trump casino closed.
Most shit in the political press and reporters are absolutely pig ignorant of law and legal processes and their coverage shows it.
Posted by: G'rump928(c)
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That story gets a lot more complex if you actually look into the details and the players involved. Turns out it was one homeowner that wanted a lot more money than the property was worth and figuring that it would be torn down anyway was not keeping the property up. The city was the one pursuing the eminent domain for a parking lot. The ironic thing is that Coker could have received a lot more money by selling to Bob Guccione who started the whole thing in 78 and would pay her 1 mill in the late seventies for the property. The daughter tried to sell the property for 5 million, then 1 million in the 2000's--ultimately it brough 583k in 2014 just before the Trump casino closed.
Most shit in the political press and reporters are absolutely pig ignorant of law and legal processes and their coverage shows it.
Posted by: whig at March 20, 2023 01:06 PM (Bmix2)
512
Very unpopular opinion, I know, but I hope they do actually Lock Him (trump) Up. He needs some humbling.
Posted by: Miss Issippi at March 20, 2023 01:06 PM (sI15f)
513
I am F5ing like a crack monkey hoping for a palate cleanser thread.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 20, 2023 01:07 PM (yQpMk)
514
And then had the idiocy to sue her for violating her NDA.
What's the point of even having an NDA if there's zero penalty to ignoring it?
A group funded by Ben & Jerry’s founder Ben Cohen is running a media campaign against U.S. military support for Ukraine.
So the hippies have gone to "PEACE AND LOVE MANNN" and opposing war ... to "this war is too expensive, mannnn" then?
I mean, I agree with them in their minimal efforts but really? That's where the movement has gone to?
What's the point of even having an NDA if there's zero penalty to ignoring it?
A group funded by Ben & Jerry’s founder Ben Cohen is running a media campaign against U.S. military support for Ukraine.
So the hippies have gone to "PEACE AND LOVE MANNN" and opposing war ... to "this war is too expensive, mannnn" then?
I mean, I agree with them in their minimal efforts but really? That's where the movement has gone to?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 20, 2023 01:07 PM (0hOvj)
515
220
'Either you ululate with joy at every one of Trump's utterances, or you are a fucking commie GOPe New World Order sellout who should be stoned in the public square.'
Is that really SO unreasonable?
'Either you ululate with joy at every one of Trump's utterances, or you are a fucking commie GOPe New World Order sellout who should be stoned in the public square.'
Is that really SO unreasonable?
Posted by: Dr. Claw at March 20, 2023 01:07 PM (qVln6)
516
I'm already sick of the 2024 election and it hasn't even really begun yet
Posted by: It's me donna at March 20, 2023 01:07 PM (bs+z0)
517
506 Am I too late for Trump wars ?
Like the Civil War or WWII, it never too late.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at March 20, 2023 01:05 PM (Bd6X
Oh, you mean the War of Desantian Aggression?
Like the Civil War or WWII, it never too late.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at March 20, 2023 01:05 PM (Bd6X
Oh, you mean the War of Desantian Aggression?
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 20, 2023 01:07 PM (KbCG3)
518
To me, this is an obvious play by Dems to make Trump our nominee once again.
I've long since ceased to try and squash conspiracy theories, because so many of them appear to come true that the smart money is on conspiracies.
But that's no reason to always come up with these Rube Goldbeg, 11-dimensional chess scenarios. Democrats are just this fucking stupid and malicious that they'd try to arrest a former president and try him for the crime of existing. It's not like there isn't half a decade or more of Trump Derangement Syndrome on display at this point.
I've long since ceased to try and squash conspiracy theories, because so many of them appear to come true that the smart money is on conspiracies.
But that's no reason to always come up with these Rube Goldbeg, 11-dimensional chess scenarios. Democrats are just this fucking stupid and malicious that they'd try to arrest a former president and try him for the crime of existing. It's not like there isn't half a decade or more of Trump Derangement Syndrome on display at this point.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at March 20, 2023 01:07 PM (ppBhU)
519
"Observation: young women across the spectrum be crazy."
Arthur Miller wrote a play about it. It's a fact of life.
Arthur Miller wrote a play about it. It's a fact of life.
Posted by: Veni, Vidi, gp at March 20, 2023 01:07 PM (MvF+J)
520
It looks like Deutche Bank is the next domino.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 20, 2023 01:07 PM (lTGtQ)
521
If anyone has a problem with that dig, I refer them to the constant attacks that Trump and his allies have made
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LOL, Trump supporters are used to dopey low blow attacks on him.
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LOL, Trump supporters are used to dopey low blow attacks on him.
Posted by: ... at March 20, 2023 01:07 PM (BXxcV)
522
Liz Harrington @realLizUSA
Are you kidding me? SAY HIS NAME!
What a total fraud he is. He takes a dig at President Trump who is being falsely accused and can't even say his name. It proves DeSantis is totally fine with a third world nation arresting their number one political opposition. Not MAGA!
Liz Harrington @realLizUSA
Are you kidding me? SAY HIS NAME!
What a total fraud he is. He takes a dig at President Trump who is being falsely accused and can't even say his name. It proves DeSantis is totally fine with a third world nation arresting their number one political opposition. Not MAGA!
Posted by: artisanal ette at March 20, 2023 01:07 PM (uQPen)
523
Blowing off the law so that the FBI flies in and black bags the guy anyway making you look idiotic and weak does not help with any of those things. Blocking an arrest does not help the cause.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 20, 2023 01:01 PM (0hOvj)
It's not that easy to black bag a former President. Trump has had quality security since before I was alive. The FBI can't mount an assault like that if Trump and the state of Florida resist, at least not without OKC style casualties.
Besides which, the feds invading or besieging Florida would instantly give DeSantis all the excuse he needs to do whatever he likes in Florida. Overnight he'd be the unquestioned leader of a national resistance.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 20, 2023 01:01 PM (0hOvj)
It's not that easy to black bag a former President. Trump has had quality security since before I was alive. The FBI can't mount an assault like that if Trump and the state of Florida resist, at least not without OKC style casualties.
Besides which, the feds invading or besieging Florida would instantly give DeSantis all the excuse he needs to do whatever he likes in Florida. Overnight he'd be the unquestioned leader of a national resistance.
Posted by: trev006 at March 20, 2023 01:07 PM (DTm0P)
524
Trump will not win AZ, GA, PA, Or MI. Neither will any R.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 20, 2023 01:07 PM (aylmF)
525
This is Ace's Ted Cruz moment. He does this before realizing there is only Trump. All else are drafting on Trumps moves. Like moons orbiting a Yuge Planet.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 20, 2023 01:07 PM (8Sqzu)
526
Now, there is confirmation that millions were sent from China and then money from a third-party account was distributed to at least three, and possibly four, Biden family members.
However, when confronted with the evidence on the way to Marine One, the President again declared “that’s not true.”
Given that these are suspicious activity reports (SARs) from Biden’s own Treasury Department, it is unclear now what the President is suggesting beyond the possibility of an evil twin Biden family that is besmirching his good name.
(see "The Enemy Within" s1e5 Star Trek: The Original Series)
However, when confronted with the evidence on the way to Marine One, the President again declared “that’s not true.”
Given that these are suspicious activity reports (SARs) from Biden’s own Treasury Department, it is unclear now what the President is suggesting beyond the possibility of an evil twin Biden family that is besmirching his good name.
(see "The Enemy Within" s1e5 Star Trek: The Original Series)
Posted by: SMOD at March 20, 2023 01:08 PM (RHGPo)
527
524 Trump will not win AZ, GA, PA, Or MI. Neither will any R.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 20, 2023 01:07 PM (aylmF)
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Nah. We just need the right candidate.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 20, 2023 01:07 PM (aylmF)
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Nah. We just need the right candidate.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 20, 2023 01:08 PM (LvTSG)
528
Is this the place to come to to talk about the War of Northern Aggression?
Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at March 20, 2023 01:08 PM (flINI)
529
So, is Michael Avenatti going to be called as a character witness?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 20, 2023 01:08 PM (oeYLT)
530
I hope they do actually Lock Him (trump) Up. He needs some humbling.
I do not think he is capable of humility. Anyone who either gets to or aspires to high office is a bit crazy and so narcissistic they are unreachable. Anyone who pretends to be humble is dangerously psychopathic.
I do not think he is capable of humility. Anyone who either gets to or aspires to high office is a bit crazy and so narcissistic they are unreachable. Anyone who pretends to be humble is dangerously psychopathic.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 20, 2023 01:08 PM (0hOvj)
531
I am F5ing like a crack monkey hoping for a palate cleanser thread.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 20, 2023 01:07 PM (yQpMk)
........
maybe something with a busty bikini brunette?
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 20, 2023 01:07 PM (yQpMk)
........
maybe something with a busty bikini brunette?
Posted by: wth at March 20, 2023 01:08 PM (v0R5T)
532
These people are springs without water and mists driven by a storm.
Blackest darkness is reserved for them. For they mouth empty, boastful words and, by appealing to the lustful desires of the flesh, they entice people who are just escaping from those who live in error.
They promise them freedom, while they themselves are slaves of depravity — for "people are slaves to whatever has mastered them."
- (2 Peter 2:17-19)
Blackest darkness is reserved for them. For they mouth empty, boastful words and, by appealing to the lustful desires of the flesh, they entice people who are just escaping from those who live in error.
They promise them freedom, while they themselves are slaves of depravity — for "people are slaves to whatever has mastered them."
- (2 Peter 2:17-19)
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at March 20, 2023 01:08 PM (2Or5V)
533
524 Trump will not win AZ, GA, PA, Or MI. Neither will any R.
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You underestimate how fucked up Biden can get between now and then. If they don't play the Biden card they will lose flat out.
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You underestimate how fucked up Biden can get between now and then. If they don't play the Biden card they will lose flat out.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 20, 2023 01:08 PM (8Sqzu)
Posted by: runner at March 20, 2023 01:08 PM (EeVCB)
535
305 NEW YORK CITY
https://tinyurl.com/3j5mzh49 ... Trump supporters
have shut down 5th Ave right outside Trump Tower.
Posted by: Kathy at March 20,
Nice leaves on those trees.
Summer of 2020?
Posted by: MTG and McCarthy at March 20, 2023 12:48 PM (VRslY)
LOL.
https://tinyurl.com/3j5mzh49 ... Trump supporters
have shut down 5th Ave right outside Trump Tower.
Posted by: Kathy at March 20,
Nice leaves on those trees.
Summer of 2020?
Posted by: MTG and McCarthy at March 20, 2023 12:48 PM (VRslY)
LOL.
Posted by: LASue at March 20, 2023 01:09 PM (Ed8Zd)
536
"Voting is not going to fix our problems."
Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 20, 2023 01:00 PM (DMyTF)
This is why I wish these Trump vs. DeSantis fights would cool down. I don't see anyway either one can beat the Dem vote harvesting machine in PA, WI or AZ to win. Just ain't going to happen. And Ronna and RNC don't even seem to care.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 20, 2023 01:00 PM (DMyTF)
This is why I wish these Trump vs. DeSantis fights would cool down. I don't see anyway either one can beat the Dem vote harvesting machine in PA, WI or AZ to win. Just ain't going to happen. And Ronna and RNC don't even seem to care.
Posted by: lowandslow at March 20, 2023 01:09 PM (76Foq)
537
Turns out it was one homeowner that wanted a lot more money than the property was worth and figuring that it would be torn down anyway was not keeping the property up. The city was the one pursuing the eminent domain for a parking lot.
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A parking lot is not a public use in my eye.
I don't really care what she was pursuing for the property. Outside of a public use, the government has no right to take.
All that being said, today, most landowners are able to extract a much higher value on eminent domain than the property is typically worth.
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A parking lot is not a public use in my eye.
I don't really care what she was pursuing for the property. Outside of a public use, the government has no right to take.
All that being said, today, most landowners are able to extract a much higher value on eminent domain than the property is typically worth.
Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at March 20, 2023 01:09 PM (sX1BW)
538
I would love to see a new meme firing through all media.
A picture of Trump in goofy handcuffs. I know the notorious pink furry ones will show up, but there could be some creative ones to mock the heck out of all of this.
Spread the mocking images before they put the real image out.
Sabo? All over NYC
A picture of Trump in goofy handcuffs. I know the notorious pink furry ones will show up, but there could be some creative ones to mock the heck out of all of this.
Spread the mocking images before they put the real image out.
Sabo? All over NYC
Posted by: artisanal ette at March 20, 2023 01:09 PM (uQPen)
539
528 Is this the place to come to to talk about the War of Northern Aggression?
Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at March 20, 2023 01:08 PM (flINI)
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Is that related to the War for Southern Defense of Slavery?
Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at March 20, 2023 01:08 PM (flINI)
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Is that related to the War for Southern Defense of Slavery?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 20, 2023 01:09 PM (LvTSG)
540
495 I just hope DeSantis doesn't have indiscretions in his past.
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If he doesn't, they'll just make shit up.
I saw him hanging round Hickory House.
Posted by: goody bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at March 20, 2023 01:04 PM
I want to open myself! . . . I want the light of God, I want the sweet love of Jesus! I danced for theDevil Trump; I saw him, I wrote in his book; I go back to Jesus; I kiss His hand. I saw Sarah Good Donald Trump with the Devil!
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If he doesn't, they'll just make shit up.
I saw him hanging round Hickory House.
Posted by: goody bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at March 20, 2023 01:04 PM
I want to open myself! . . . I want the light of God, I want the sweet love of Jesus! I danced for the
Posted by: Vice President Pence at March 20, 2023 01:09 PM (JCZqz)
541
Very unpopular opinion, I know, but I hope they do actually Lock Him (trump) Up. He needs some humbling.
Posted by: Miss Issippi at March 20, 2023 01:06 PM (sI15f)
Gosh I wonder why imprisoning people as a quasi-therapeutic measure to ensure their egos are at acceptable levels would be unpopular. Fuck's sake.
Posted by: Miss Issippi at March 20, 2023 01:06 PM (sI15f)
Gosh I wonder why imprisoning people as a quasi-therapeutic measure to ensure their egos are at acceptable levels would be unpopular. Fuck's sake.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at March 20, 2023 01:09 PM (ppBhU)
542
So the hippies have gone to "PEACE AND LOVE MANNN" and opposing war ... to "this war is too expensive, mannnn" then?
I mean, I agree with them in their minimal efforts but really? That's where the movement has gone to?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 20, 2023 01:07 PM (0hOvj)
Isn't there a saying about all movements becoming rackets?
I mean, I agree with them in their minimal efforts but really? That's where the movement has gone to?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 20, 2023 01:07 PM (0hOvj)
Isn't there a saying about all movements becoming rackets?
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 20, 2023 01:09 PM (eYoxG)
Posted by: REDACTED at March 20, 2023 01:09 PM (us2H3)
544
528 Is this the place to come to to talk about the War of Northern Aggression?
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Pretty much.
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Pretty much.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 20, 2023 01:09 PM (8Sqzu)
545
If Stormy Daniels could prove she had a sexual relationship with Donald Trump why did she settled for a mere $130,000.
She knew or at least thought by reputation he was a multimillionaire.
Posted by: old chick
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I dont think anyone pays someone six figures for a bullshit story that's not even regarding something potentially illegal. If anything, it just gives the story more credibility by making a payoff.
Did Trump pay off all of these other women that accused him of things? Nope.
Also, remember that when he settled this with Stormy Daniels, Trump was not a Presidential candidate. He was a reality TV star, a settlement like this would be par for the course.
She knew or at least thought by reputation he was a multimillionaire.
Posted by: old chick
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I dont think anyone pays someone six figures for a bullshit story that's not even regarding something potentially illegal. If anything, it just gives the story more credibility by making a payoff.
Did Trump pay off all of these other women that accused him of things? Nope.
Also, remember that when he settled this with Stormy Daniels, Trump was not a Presidential candidate. He was a reality TV star, a settlement like this would be par for the course.
Posted by: Blago at March 20, 2023 01:09 PM (cOFom)
546
There is no math wizardry required here.
Trump is a tremendous threat to the commies and their plans for us.
They are doing what they do, trying to sully him from every possible direction.
Trump is a tremendous threat to the commies and their plans for us.
They are doing what they do, trying to sully him from every possible direction.
Posted by: ... at March 20, 2023 01:09 PM (BXxcV)
547
What's the point of even having an NDA if there's zero penalty to ignoring it?
Tell me about it! - Tiger Woods
Tell me about it! - Tiger Woods
Posted by: Archer at March 20, 2023 01:10 PM (gmo/4)
548
A group funded by Ben & Jerry’s founder Ben Cohen is running a media campaign against U.S. military support for Ukraine.
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I'm on the horns of a three horned dilemma (a trilemma?). On one hand, I like ice cream. On the other hand I hate Ben Cohen. And on my third hand, I think we should let Ukraine twist slowly, slowly in the wind.
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I'm on the horns of a three horned dilemma (a trilemma?). On one hand, I like ice cream. On the other hand I hate Ben Cohen. And on my third hand, I think we should let Ukraine twist slowly, slowly in the wind.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 20, 2023 01:10 PM (FVME7)
549
This is Ace's Ted Cruz moment. He does this before realizing there is only Trump.
Wait, I thought there was no Dana, only Zuul?
Wait, I thought there was no Dana, only Zuul?
Posted by: Archimedes at March 20, 2023 01:10 PM (eOEVl)
550
487. It's the new crossbows bs longbow.
Posted by: Bete at March 20, 2023 01:10 PM (QEumK)
551
Oh, you mean the War of Desantian Aggression?
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 20, 2023 01:07 PM (KbCG3)
The Current Unpleasantness.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 20, 2023 01:07 PM (KbCG3)
The Current Unpleasantness.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 20, 2023 01:10 PM (yQpMk)
552
Interesting that Trump's first response was "avenge me", protest, protest, protest. Save "America".
Wut?
Wut?
Posted by: Pat MeGroin, Hungover Leprechaun at March 20, 2023 01:10 PM (tQvWB)
553
316 DeSantis says he "won't get involved" if Trump is indicted.
https://tinyurl.com/yckpekdd
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at March 20, 2023 12:42 PM (sWM8x)
if the shoe were on the other foot, Trump would be cheering on the prosecution
https://tinyurl.com/yckpekdd
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at March 20, 2023 12:42 PM (sWM8x)
if the shoe were on the other foot, Trump would be cheering on the prosecution
Posted by: Bitcoin Fixes Everything at March 20, 2023 01:10 PM (V6W16)
554
I'm already sick of the 2024 election and it hasn't even really begun yet
Yeah this place is going to each a point by 2024 that it will be impossible to tolerate. Its already obnoxious with the idiotic fights over two guys who aren't going to win the presidency anyway.
This topic is chilling and horrifying but instead we get squabbles over who has the biggest eggplant as a politician. Its idiotic.
Yeah this place is going to each a point by 2024 that it will be impossible to tolerate. Its already obnoxious with the idiotic fights over two guys who aren't going to win the presidency anyway.
This topic is chilling and horrifying but instead we get squabbles over who has the biggest eggplant as a politician. Its idiotic.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 20, 2023 01:11 PM (0hOvj)
555
I voted for Gary Johnson in 2016.
Don't listen to me.
Were you high? 'Cause I'm pretty sure Gary was. (Disclaimer: I voted for Gary for Governor of NM when I lived there.)
Don't listen to me.
Were you high? 'Cause I'm pretty sure Gary was. (Disclaimer: I voted for Gary for Governor of NM when I lived there.)
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at March 20, 2023 01:11 PM (Bd6X8)
556
Second, the question, "What did Trump do for the 1/6 protestors?"
Posted by: Lola - free Jacob Chansley at March 20, 2023 01:05 PM (GshMh)
Exactly. He should be in prison until they are out.
Posted by: Lola - free Jacob Chansley at March 20, 2023 01:05 PM (GshMh)
Exactly. He should be in prison until they are out.
Posted by: Miss Issippi at March 20, 2023 01:11 PM (sI15f)
557
@524
>>Trump will not win AZ, GA, PA, Or MI. Neither will any R.
I'm sort of mystified how Republicans have been winning Georgia at all.
The white population of GA is just a shade over 50pct, so for Republicans to win, they have to get at least 15-20pct of blacks and hispanics voting for them, which doesn't happen, which goes to my theory that voting, regardless of locale or parties involved is largely, fortified.
>>Trump will not win AZ, GA, PA, Or MI. Neither will any R.
I'm sort of mystified how Republicans have been winning Georgia at all.
The white population of GA is just a shade over 50pct, so for Republicans to win, they have to get at least 15-20pct of blacks and hispanics voting for them, which doesn't happen, which goes to my theory that voting, regardless of locale or parties involved is largely, fortified.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 20, 2023 01:11 PM (XFPre)
558
Liz Harrington @realLizUSA
Are you kidding me? SAY HIS NAME!
What a total fraud he is. He takes a dig at President Trump who is being falsely accused and can't even say his name. It proves DeSantis is totally fine with a third world nation arresting their number one political opposition. Not MAGA!
Posted by: artisanal ette at March 20, 2023 01:07 PM (uQPen)
He's a weak sister. At this point, I'd take Cruz' political instincts over DeSantis.
Are you kidding me? SAY HIS NAME!
What a total fraud he is. He takes a dig at President Trump who is being falsely accused and can't even say his name. It proves DeSantis is totally fine with a third world nation arresting their number one political opposition. Not MAGA!
Posted by: artisanal ette at March 20, 2023 01:07 PM (uQPen)
He's a weak sister. At this point, I'd take Cruz' political instincts over DeSantis.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 20, 2023 01:11 PM (PyOKD)
559
Very unpopular opinion, I know, but I hope they do actually Lock Him (trump) Up. He needs some humbling.
Posted by: Miss Issippi at March 20, 2023 01:06 PM (sI15f)
The fuck???
Posted by: Miss Issippi at March 20, 2023 01:06 PM (sI15f)
The fuck???
Posted by: ... at March 20, 2023 01:11 PM (BXxcV)
560
Shouldn't the pro Trump fans be welcoming his arrest if they think that will make him more electable?
Posted by: Paul at March 20, 2023 01:11 PM (QxD+l)
561
Very unpopular opinion, I know, but I hope they do actually Lock Him (trump) Up. He needs some humbling.
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This is narrow-minded. I am not voting for Trump, DeSantis, or any other damned Republican for federal office, ever, under any circumstances, period, end of story, etc.
So that gives me a little more distance on this question, because I have no dog in this faggy slapfight.
Rooting for State oppression of your own side because you don't like the victim, or do like his opponent, is silly. They're not humbling Trump... they're humbling *you.*
Very unpopular opinion, I know, but I hope they do actually Lock Him (trump) Up. He needs some humbling.
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This is narrow-minded. I am not voting for Trump, DeSantis, or any other damned Republican for federal office, ever, under any circumstances, period, end of story, etc.
So that gives me a little more distance on this question, because I have no dog in this faggy slapfight.
Rooting for State oppression of your own side because you don't like the victim, or do like his opponent, is silly. They're not humbling Trump... they're humbling *you.*
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 20, 2023 01:11 PM (oINRc)
562
I dont think anyone pays someone six figures for a bullshit story that's not even regarding something potentially illegal. If anything, it just gives the story more credibility by making a payoff.
Did Trump pay off all of these other women that accused him of things? Nope.
Also, remember that when he settled this with Stormy Daniels, Trump was not a Presidential candidate. He was a reality TV star, a settlement like this would be par for the course.
Posted by: Blago at March 20, 2023 01:09 PM (cOFom)
not that I give a fuck
is any of this true ??
Did Trump pay off all of these other women that accused him of things? Nope.
Also, remember that when he settled this with Stormy Daniels, Trump was not a Presidential candidate. He was a reality TV star, a settlement like this would be par for the course.
Posted by: Blago at March 20, 2023 01:09 PM (cOFom)
not that I give a fuck
is any of this true ??
Posted by: REDACTED at March 20, 2023 01:11 PM (us2H3)
563
"But I also think that the left knew very well that they were going to be arrested in the 1950s and 1960s and considered it a badge of honor, that let them go to court and fight their cause. That they knew they'd be arrested, possibly beaten and had dogs set on them if they protested and they did it anyway because they believed in their cause.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 20, 2023 12:46 PM (0hOvj)"
and they knew that they would miraculously have teams of first-rate lawyers on their side "pro bono" (funded by the Soviets).
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 20, 2023 12:46 PM (0hOvj)"
and they knew that they would miraculously have teams of first-rate lawyers on their side "pro bono" (funded by the Soviets).
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - we are being gaslighted 24/365 at March 20, 2023 01:11 PM (QNv15)
564
Chris Rock at a comedian event
"Are you guys really going to arrest Trump?"
"You know this is only going to make him more popular. It's like arresting Tupac. It's just going to sell more records!"
"Are you guys really going to arrest Trump?"
"You know this is only going to make him more popular. It's like arresting Tupac. It's just going to sell more records!"
Posted by: artisanal ette at March 20, 2023 01:11 PM (uQPen)
565
Now, there is confirmation that millions were sent from China and then money from a third-party account was distributed to at least three, and possibly four, Biden family members.
However, when confronted with the evidence on the way to Marine One, the President again declared “that’s not true.”
____
Techinally Biden may be correct, if the payouts were in the billions rather than millions.
However, when confronted with the evidence on the way to Marine One, the President again declared “that’s not true.”
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Techinally Biden may be correct, if the payouts were in the billions rather than millions.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at March 20, 2023 01:11 PM (fs1hN)
Posted by: Skip at March 20, 2023 01:11 PM (Ck5SS)
567
If you were the devil, guilty of unspeakable crimes and desperate to get exonerated from the consequences: a forever existence in a lake of fire, how far would you go to get off the hook of your judgement?
That's what we are seeing in the behavior of the left...desperate, insane, inexcusable, unforgivable violations of law and decency against Americans who have been defrauded of life, health, liberty, national, domestic and financial security.
That's what we are seeing in the behavior of the left...desperate, insane, inexcusable, unforgivable violations of law and decency against Americans who have been defrauded of life, health, liberty, national, domestic and financial security.
Posted by: Ju at March 20, 2023 01:11 PM (aTmM/)
568
** Funk Music Plays in Background **
** Cockatu lands on shoulder **
** Bender struts away in his platform shoes and purple boa **
Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 20, 2023 01:05 PM
If you're going to all that work, don't forget to shake it.
** Cockatu lands on shoulder **
** Bender struts away in his platform shoes and purple boa **
Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 20, 2023 01:05 PM
If you're going to all that work, don't forget to shake it.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 20, 2023 01:11 PM (a3Q+t)
569
528 Is this the place to come to to talk about the War of Northern Aggression?
Only if you first swear that carrots do not belong in chili.
Only if you first swear that carrots do not belong in chili.
Posted by: Archer at March 20, 2023 01:12 PM (gmo/4)
570
555 Were you high? 'Cause I'm pretty sure Gary was. (Disclaimer: I voted for Gary for Governor of NM when I lived there.)
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at March 20, 2023 01:11 PM (Bd6X
========
I live in SC. My vote didn't matter. I stood in line for an hour to cast a pointless protest vote that I wouldn't have cast if I had voted in a purple state. I'd have voted for Trump.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at March 20, 2023 01:11 PM (Bd6X
========
I live in SC. My vote didn't matter. I stood in line for an hour to cast a pointless protest vote that I wouldn't have cast if I had voted in a purple state. I'd have voted for Trump.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 20, 2023 01:12 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 20, 2023 01:12 PM (0hOvj)
572
Miss Ississipi you want to see Trump locked up while all the criminals in the Uniparty getting rich off your back walk free? Because of his personality?
That's... a take.
That's... a take.
Posted by: ... at March 20, 2023 01:12 PM (BXxcV)
573
Red states and cities will make this economically painful for NYC and New York state. Now, that will happen. As always, it will be innocent people who suffer but don't expect many discretionary transactions between Texas and New York in the future.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at March 20, 2023 01:12 PM (KSNKu)
574
I read somewhere that US refused to allow Ukes a ceasefire with Rus.
Posted by: runner at March 20, 2023 01:12 PM (EeVCB)
575
Now, there is confirmation that millions were sent from China and then money from a third-party account was distributed to at least three, and possibly four, Biden family members.
However, when confronted with the evidence on the way to Marine One, the President again declared “that’s not true.”
____
Techinally Biden may be correct, if the payouts were in the billions rather than millions.
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And probably more than 4 biden's. Dead biden's also count.
However, when confronted with the evidence on the way to Marine One, the President again declared “that’s not true.”
____
Techinally Biden may be correct, if the payouts were in the billions rather than millions.
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And probably more than 4 biden's. Dead biden's also count.
Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at March 20, 2023 01:12 PM (sX1BW)
576
559 Very unpopular opinion, I know, but I hope they do actually Lock Him (trump) Up. He needs some humbling.
Posted by: Miss Issippi at March 20, 2023 01:06 PM (sI15f)
come on ace
you can do better than this sock
Posted by: Miss Issippi at March 20, 2023 01:06 PM (sI15f)
come on ace
you can do better than this sock
Posted by: REDACTED at March 20, 2023 01:12 PM (us2H3)
577
541. Gosh I wonder why imprisoning people as a quasi-therapeutic measure to ensure their egos are at acceptable levels would be unpopular. Fuck's sake.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls
Agree.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls
Agree.
Posted by: Lola - free Jacob Chansley at March 20, 2023 01:13 PM (GshMh)
578
Yeah this place is going to each a point by 2024 that it will be impossible to tolerate.
That's why we need these mini-doses of hatorade now . . . to build up our immunity.
That's why we need these mini-doses of hatorade now . . . to build up our immunity.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at March 20, 2023 01:13 PM (ppBhU)
Posted by: t-bird at March 20, 2023 01:13 PM (Sv58p)
580
They could wheel biden around in an iron lung and he would get 50 million votes.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 20, 2023 01:13 PM (aylmF)
581
"You know this is only going to make him more popular. It's like arresting Tupac. It's just going to sell more records!"
Posted by: artisanal ette at March 20, 2023 01:11 PM (uQPen)
If (Dee)Santis had the brains God gave a stray dog, he'd be bandwagoning Trump for cynical political reasons. Instead of relying on Avenatti/ Bragg to do his heavy lifting for him.
Posted by: artisanal ette at March 20, 2023 01:11 PM (uQPen)
If (Dee)Santis had the brains God gave a stray dog, he'd be bandwagoning Trump for cynical political reasons. Instead of relying on Avenatti/ Bragg to do his heavy lifting for him.
Posted by: trev006 at March 20, 2023 01:13 PM (DTm0P)
582
574 I read somewhere that US refused to allow Ukes a ceasefire with Rus.
Posted by: runner at March 20, 2023 01:12 PM (EeVCB)
==========
The war in Ukraine isn't about Ukrainian independence, territory, or being anti-Putin.
It's about laundering hundreds of billions of dollars.
Posted by: runner at March 20, 2023 01:12 PM (EeVCB)
==========
The war in Ukraine isn't about Ukrainian independence, territory, or being anti-Putin.
It's about laundering hundreds of billions of dollars.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 20, 2023 01:13 PM (LvTSG)
583
"I know, but I hope they do actually Lock Him (trump) Up. He needs some humbling."
Jail did nothing to alter my personality. But it was a very picturesque jail, and only four days. I didn't have to shank anybody, but nobody would play chess with me after the first two games. I bought my cellmates a carton of Kents when I got out.
Jail did nothing to alter my personality. But it was a very picturesque jail, and only four days. I didn't have to shank anybody, but nobody would play chess with me after the first two games. I bought my cellmates a carton of Kents when I got out.
Posted by: Veni, Vidi, gp at March 20, 2023 01:13 PM (MvF+J)
584
I voted for Bob Barr in 2008, then sat it all out until 2020. Now I'm back on wagon, I'm done voting.
Posted by: lowandslow at March 20, 2023 01:14 PM (76Foq)
585
if the shoe were on the other foot, Trump would be cheering on the prosecution
Posted by: Bitcoin Fixes Everything at March 20, 2023 01:10 PM (V6W16)
Yep. Trump has really lost me because this is exactly what he would do. I was a staunch Trump supporter, blind and all in, and would fight for him. But, these past 3 years, I've watched him objectively, and we don't need him. He's not helping us.
Posted by: Bitcoin Fixes Everything at March 20, 2023 01:10 PM (V6W16)
Yep. Trump has really lost me because this is exactly what he would do. I was a staunch Trump supporter, blind and all in, and would fight for him. But, these past 3 years, I've watched him objectively, and we don't need him. He's not helping us.
Posted by: Miss Issippi at March 20, 2023 01:14 PM (sI15f)
586
I'm not getting any younger and there is nothing good on TV anyways.
Let's get this war started.
Let's get this war started.
Posted by: humphreyrobot at March 20, 2023 01:14 PM (bjh/i)
587
Is this the place to come to to talk about the War of Northern Aggression?
Only if you first swear that carrots do not belong in chili.
Posted by: Archer at March 20, 2023 01:12 PM (gmo/4)
***
Silly... They belong in Lime Jello
Only if you first swear that carrots do not belong in chili.
Posted by: Archer at March 20, 2023 01:12 PM (gmo/4)
***
Silly... They belong in Lime Jello
Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at March 20, 2023 01:14 PM (flINI)
588
>>>I'm already sick of the 2024 election and it hasn't even really begun yet
>We're going to have that Primary decided by next Tuesday if it harelips ever'body on Bear Creek!
>We're going to have that Primary decided by next Tuesday if it harelips ever'body on Bear Creek!
Posted by: Dr. Bone at March 20, 2023 01:14 PM (Jg7EG)
589
"You know this is only going to make him more popular. It's like arresting Tupac. It's just going to sell more records!"
Yeah. This is the kind of mindset that led the GOP to try to impeach Clinton over freaking lying under oath. Really? That's the best you could come up with? All that kind of penny ante stuff does is make them more popular and make you look stupid.
If this is the best charge you can come up with to try to jail a political enemy and former president, just no.
Yeah. This is the kind of mindset that led the GOP to try to impeach Clinton over freaking lying under oath. Really? That's the best you could come up with? All that kind of penny ante stuff does is make them more popular and make you look stupid.
If this is the best charge you can come up with to try to jail a political enemy and former president, just no.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 20, 2023 01:14 PM (0hOvj)
590
Exactly. He should be in prison until they are out.
Posted by: Miss Issippi at March 20, 2023 01:11 PM (sI15f)
He's the only person in the world capable of becoming president who would pardon them. Step back and look at the forest, hon.
Posted by: Miss Issippi at March 20, 2023 01:11 PM (sI15f)
He's the only person in the world capable of becoming president who would pardon them. Step back and look at the forest, hon.
Posted by: ... at March 20, 2023 01:14 PM (BXxcV)
591
Now, there is confirmation that millions were sent from China and then money from a third-party account was distributed to at least three, and possibly four, Biden family members.
However, when confronted with the evidence on the way to Marine One, the President again declared “that’s not true.”
AHA! So it was five Biden family members...
However, when confronted with the evidence on the way to Marine One, the President again declared “that’s not true.”
AHA! So it was five Biden family members...
Posted by: t-bird at March 20, 2023 01:14 PM (Sv58p)
592
Nudity.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 20, 2023 01:14 PM (yQpMk)
593
To be very specific, I don't believe he had intercourse with her.
Posted by: LASue
I thought she had done an interview that she said she hadn't had sex with him.
I'm just surprised at the people that regard lamestream news headlines and a stripper's numerous accounts as verbatim proof.
Posted by: LASue
I thought she had done an interview that she said she hadn't had sex with him.
I'm just surprised at the people that regard lamestream news headlines and a stripper's numerous accounts as verbatim proof.
Posted by: old chick at March 20, 2023 01:15 PM (sOete)
594
Second, the question, "What did Trump do for the 1/6 protestors?"
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Exactly. He should be in prison until they are out.
--
Reposted from #83:
It's been discussed at length. The entire day was an op. All that had to happen was for Trump to pardon a Ray Epps and then that Ray Epps would go murder a judge, and it would be tied directly to Trump's pardon.
Heck, the dangerous insurgent that was standing right next to Ashli Babbit only got a few months probation. And John Sullivan (JADEN X!!!) didn't get sh*t, and he was in there on the other side, helpfully filming the event that he knew would occur.
It was all an op.
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Exactly. He should be in prison until they are out.
--
Reposted from #83:
It's been discussed at length. The entire day was an op. All that had to happen was for Trump to pardon a Ray Epps and then that Ray Epps would go murder a judge, and it would be tied directly to Trump's pardon.
Heck, the dangerous insurgent that was standing right next to Ashli Babbit only got a few months probation. And John Sullivan (JADEN X!!!) didn't get sh*t, and he was in there on the other side, helpfully filming the event that he knew would occur.
It was all an op.
Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 20, 2023 01:15 PM (BGev3)
595
I live in SC. My vote didn't matter. I stood in line for an hour to cast a pointless protest vote that I wouldn't have cast if I had voted in a purple state. I'd have voted for Trump.
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James, I thought you lived in VA.
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James, I thought you lived in VA.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 20, 2023 01:15 PM (8Sqzu)
596
Trump will not win AZ, GA, PA, Or MI. Neither will any R.
I'm sort of mystified how Republicans have been winning Georgia at all.
The white population of GA is just a shade over 50pct, so for Republicans to win, they have to get at least 15-20pct of blacks and hispanics voting for them, which doesn't happen, which goes to my theory that voting, regardless of locale or parties involved is largely, fortified.
Posted by: Thomas Bender
___
Except non-Trump Republicans won several of those states. Ask Stacy Abrams how her election went.
People just have to come to grips that Trump is not nearly the beloved figure his supporters think he is. He plays well in places like Ohio and a few ruby red states that we win anyway.
But Trump supporters always come back to
"no Republican will ever be allowed to win again THEREFORE we have to nominate Trump or else!"
Or else what?
Is any Trump supporter the slightest bit open to the fact that he might be losing some voters just based on him as a person?
I'm sort of mystified how Republicans have been winning Georgia at all.
The white population of GA is just a shade over 50pct, so for Republicans to win, they have to get at least 15-20pct of blacks and hispanics voting for them, which doesn't happen, which goes to my theory that voting, regardless of locale or parties involved is largely, fortified.
Posted by: Thomas Bender
___
Except non-Trump Republicans won several of those states. Ask Stacy Abrams how her election went.
People just have to come to grips that Trump is not nearly the beloved figure his supporters think he is. He plays well in places like Ohio and a few ruby red states that we win anyway.
But Trump supporters always come back to
"no Republican will ever be allowed to win again THEREFORE we have to nominate Trump or else!"
Or else what?
Is any Trump supporter the slightest bit open to the fact that he might be losing some voters just based on him as a person?
Posted by: Blago at March 20, 2023 01:15 PM (cOFom)
597
Yeah this place is going to each a point by 2024 that it will be impossible to tolerate.
That's why we need these mini-doses of hatorade now . . . to build up our immunity.
I find it useful. The people whose whole schtick consists of "Nuh-uh, DeS is the devil, and he's icky" are self-identifying, so we'll know who to ignore when the campaigns really start.
That's why we need these mini-doses of hatorade now . . . to build up our immunity.
I find it useful. The people whose whole schtick consists of "Nuh-uh, DeS is the devil, and he's icky" are self-identifying, so we'll know who to ignore when the campaigns really start.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 20, 2023 01:16 PM (eOEVl)
598
"I know, but I hope they do actually Lock Him (trump) Up. He needs some humbling."
Jail did nothing to alter my personality. But it was a very picturesque jail, and only four days. I didn't have to shank anybody, but nobody would play chess with me after the first two games. I bought my cellmates a carton of Kents when I got out.
Posted by: Veni, Vidi, gp at March 20, 2023 01:13 PM (MvF+J)
Trump could use that experience as well.
Jail did nothing to alter my personality. But it was a very picturesque jail, and only four days. I didn't have to shank anybody, but nobody would play chess with me after the first two games. I bought my cellmates a carton of Kents when I got out.
Posted by: Veni, Vidi, gp at March 20, 2023 01:13 PM (MvF+J)
Trump could use that experience as well.
Posted by: Miss Issippi at March 20, 2023 01:16 PM (sI15f)
599
I'm in CA so my vote doesn't count anyway yet I still vote... I will vote for whichever Republican gets the nod... With the exception of a few especially Romney... That being said Trump's response to the possible arrest sounded un-hinged and did not help his "case." in my estimation
Posted by: It's me donna at March 20, 2023 01:16 PM (bs+z0)
600
'Or maybe I should just claim I'm back aboard...''
Please make the claim Ace.
You are the North Star of insightful truth. We need you on our side. Or allegedly on our side.
Either way we will gladly embrace your claim.
We can elect a Pope after the Orange Man.
But for now we need to relentlessly brutalize the Communists. Trump is a Providential battering ram.
Let's all claim -- for the sake of our phony baloney asses-- that it's Trump or the Highway.
Please make the claim Ace.
You are the North Star of insightful truth. We need you on our side. Or allegedly on our side.
Either way we will gladly embrace your claim.
We can elect a Pope after the Orange Man.
But for now we need to relentlessly brutalize the Communists. Trump is a Providential battering ram.
Let's all claim -- for the sake of our phony baloney asses-- that it's Trump or the Highway.
Posted by: Beyond Norman Parameters at March 20, 2023 01:16 PM (e7tDb)
601
The war in Ukraine isn't about Ukrainian independence, territory, or being anti-Putin.
It's about laundering hundreds of billions of dollars.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at Ma
Shocking! This was a recent event. Sine may not be aware that it happened again.
It's about laundering hundreds of billions of dollars.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at Ma
Shocking! This was a recent event. Sine may not be aware that it happened again.
Posted by: runner at March 20, 2023 01:16 PM (EeVCB)
602
Shouldn't the pro Trump fans be welcoming his arrest if they think that will make him more electable?
Posted by: Paul at March 20, 2023 01:11 PM (QxD+l)
see Tim Pool's recent video to answer your question
Posted by: Paul at March 20, 2023 01:11 PM (QxD+l)
see Tim Pool's recent video to answer your question
Posted by: artisanal ette at March 20, 2023 01:16 PM (uQPen)
603
The war in Ukraine isn't about Ukrainian independence, territory, or being anti-Putin.
It's about laundering hundreds of billions of dollars.
And propping up the military-industrial complex. They got involved with this the instant Afghanistan shut down.
It's about laundering hundreds of billions of dollars.
And propping up the military-industrial complex. They got involved with this the instant Afghanistan shut down.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 20, 2023 01:16 PM (0hOvj)
604
I'm on the horns of a three horned dilemma (a trilemma?). On one hand, I like ice cream. On the other hand I hate Ben Cohen. And on my third hand, I think we should let Ukraine twist slowly, slowly in the wind.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 20, 2023 01:10 PM
WWTS?
(What Would Tater Say?)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 20, 2023 01:10 PM
WWTS?
(What Would Tater Say?)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 20, 2023 01:16 PM (a3Q+t)
605
"To be very specific, I don't believe he had intercourse with her."
If he'd seen her naked in the flesh, he'd be blind.
If he'd seen her naked in the flesh, he'd be blind.
Posted by: Veni, Vidi, gp at March 20, 2023 01:17 PM (MvF+J)
606
Ace, Thank you for this very detailed yet clear post about this situation.
Posted by: Roland F Hirsch at March 20, 2023 01:17 PM (oMkPq)
607
557 @524
>>Trump will not win AZ, GA, PA, Or MI. Neither will any R.
I'm sort of mystified how Republicans have been winning Georgia at all.
The white population of GA is just a shade over 50pct, so for Republicans to win, they have to get at least 15-20pct of blacks and hispanics voting for them, which doesn't happen, which goes to my theory that voting, regardless of locale or parties involved is largely, fortified.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 20, 2023 01:11 PM (XFPre)
Hispanics don't vote for Democrats at enormously lopsided rates on average. Republicans can and do pull a majority at times.
>>Trump will not win AZ, GA, PA, Or MI. Neither will any R.
I'm sort of mystified how Republicans have been winning Georgia at all.
The white population of GA is just a shade over 50pct, so for Republicans to win, they have to get at least 15-20pct of blacks and hispanics voting for them, which doesn't happen, which goes to my theory that voting, regardless of locale or parties involved is largely, fortified.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 20, 2023 01:11 PM (XFPre)
Hispanics don't vote for Democrats at enormously lopsided rates on average. Republicans can and do pull a majority at times.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 20, 2023 01:17 PM (eYoxG)
608
601 The war in Ukraine isn't about Ukrainian independence, territory, or being anti-Putin.
It's about laundering hundreds of billions of dollars.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at Ma
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Correction. Its about the NATO grift. Bigger NATO = Bigger Grift.
It's about laundering hundreds of billions of dollars.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at Ma
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Correction. Its about the NATO grift. Bigger NATO = Bigger Grift.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 20, 2023 01:17 PM (8Sqzu)
609
331
'Is he gonna put on his suit with the big DS on the chest, fly up there and rescue Trump from prison by bending the jail cell bars?'
He can tell the governor of another state that he and his own law enforcement won't cooperate. At a minimum.
'Is he gonna put on his suit with the big DS on the chest, fly up there and rescue Trump from prison by bending the jail cell bars?'
He can tell the governor of another state that he and his own law enforcement won't cooperate. At a minimum.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at March 20, 2023 01:18 PM (qVln6)
610
Sine may not be aware that it happened again.
Posted by: runner at March 20, 2023 01:16 PM
Cos why?
Posted by: runner at March 20, 2023 01:16 PM
Cos why?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 20, 2023 01:18 PM (a3Q+t)
611
It was all an op.
Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 20, 2023 01:15 PM (BGev3)
For sure it was an op. No question. Trump should have pardoned them all.
Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 20, 2023 01:15 PM (BGev3)
For sure it was an op. No question. Trump should have pardoned them all.
Posted by: Miss Issippi at March 20, 2023 01:18 PM (sI15f)
612
143 - Yep. It's like saying, "we need to get rid of Bush, the Left calls him "Hitler!" They call everyone Hitler. Between McCain, Romney and Trump, we're on Hitler Ver. 4.0. Desantis will just be Ver. 5.0, and a whole 4 more years of new drama.
Posted by: Dr. Titanium Whitey, J.D. at March 20, 2023 01:18 PM (i6shs)
613
NOOD lawsuit (in case anyone didn't realize there's a new thread up)
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at March 20, 2023 01:18 PM (nRMeC)
614
New one.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 20, 2023 01:18 PM (eOEVl)
615
now personally, I think protesting is worthless and rioting is counterproductive.
It depends on whether the people in power sympathize (or more) with your protest and/or riot. Like that Stanford law school dean.
It depends on whether the people in power sympathize (or more) with your protest and/or riot. Like that Stanford law school dean.
Posted by: PG at March 20, 2023 01:19 PM (84jHt)
616
"Trump could use that experience as well."
I am opposed to DJT taking up smoking. Wait, they don't let inmates smoke these days. It's not 1986 anymore.
I am opposed to DJT taking up smoking. Wait, they don't let inmates smoke these days. It's not 1986 anymore.
Posted by: Veni, Vidi, gp at March 20, 2023 01:19 PM (MvF+J)
617
Swapped Hellman's for Duke's. It was not an improvement.
Posted by: Mayo hair. Gross.
Miracle Whip It
Swapped Hellman's for Duke's. It was not an improvement.
Posted by: Mayo hair. Gross.
Miracle Whip It
Posted by: DEVO at March 20, 2023 01:19 PM (63Dwl)
618
Yeah. As I've said a few times the GOP isn't structured in such a way that other nominees besides a designated one are expected to stand aside. Usually an existing president, but that's it.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy
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That is not particularly true RTS.
Let's look at the record. Bob Dole was Gerry Ford's VP nominee after dumpy Rockefeller from the ticket. Bob became the GOP nominee in 96 after being beaten in 88 and did not run in 92 against GHWB. GHWB ran for prezzie in 1980, came in second, and was then given the nod in 88 as Saint Ron's successor. Reagan himself had an abortive shortlived run in 68, ran against Ford in 76, and won in 80. McCain lost in 00 to GWB, and returned as nominee in 2008. Romney lost in 2008 but became nominee in 2012. Nixon, lost in 60 as Ike's heir, became nominee in 1968. Dewey lost in 44 and became nominee again in 48.
Result, GOP would rather have warmed over losers that were 'safe' than first time winners. The GOP has always been more involved in making sure that the nominee is safe and ironically the successful GOP presidents like Ike, Roosevelt, or Coolidge were somewhat of outsiders.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy
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That is not particularly true RTS.
Let's look at the record. Bob Dole was Gerry Ford's VP nominee after dumpy Rockefeller from the ticket. Bob became the GOP nominee in 96 after being beaten in 88 and did not run in 92 against GHWB. GHWB ran for prezzie in 1980, came in second, and was then given the nod in 88 as Saint Ron's successor. Reagan himself had an abortive shortlived run in 68, ran against Ford in 76, and won in 80. McCain lost in 00 to GWB, and returned as nominee in 2008. Romney lost in 2008 but became nominee in 2012. Nixon, lost in 60 as Ike's heir, became nominee in 1968. Dewey lost in 44 and became nominee again in 48.
Result, GOP would rather have warmed over losers that were 'safe' than first time winners. The GOP has always been more involved in making sure that the nominee is safe and ironically the successful GOP presidents like Ike, Roosevelt, or Coolidge were somewhat of outsiders.
Posted by: whig at March 20, 2023 01:20 PM (Bmix2)
619
Too bad Trump didn't drain the swamp when he had all three branches of government. How long was it before he came out and said the Clintons were "good people" in response to the Lock Her Up chant?
Posted by: Valiant at March 20, 2023 01:20 PM (cy2xC)
620
178 - How many ballots are ya gonna harvest for Desantis? If mail in balloting is still legal in 2024, we lose with Jesus on the ticket. And if we "harvest", wink, you'll see the Second Coming of Leftist election "Denial" as every Republican campaign worker is gonna grilled over ballot issues.
Posted by: Dr. Titanium Whitey, J.D. at March 20, 2023 01:21 PM (i6shs)
621
618
Let's look at the record. Bob Dole was Gerry Ford's VP nominee after dumpy Rockefeller from the ticket. Bob became the GOP nominee in 96 after being beaten in 88 and did not run in 92 against GHWB. GHWB ran for prezzie in 1980, came in second, and was then given the nod in 88 as Saint Ron's successor. Reagan himself had an abortive shortlived run in 68, ran against Ford in 76, and won in 80. McCain lost in 00 to GWB, and returned as nominee in 2008. Romney lost in 2008 but became nominee in 2012. Nixon, lost in 60 as Ike's heir, became nominee in 1968. Dewey lost in 44 and became nominee again in 48.
Result, GOP would rather have warmed over losers that were 'safe' than first time winners. The GOP has always been more involved in making sure that the nominee is safe and ironically the successful GOP presidents like Ike, Roosevelt, or Coolidge were somewhat of outsiders.
Posted by: whig at March 20, 2023 01:20 PM (Bmix2)
The GOP may often put them up as the eventual candidate but in most cases other competitors weren't shut out at the start.
Let's look at the record. Bob Dole was Gerry Ford's VP nominee after dumpy Rockefeller from the ticket. Bob became the GOP nominee in 96 after being beaten in 88 and did not run in 92 against GHWB. GHWB ran for prezzie in 1980, came in second, and was then given the nod in 88 as Saint Ron's successor. Reagan himself had an abortive shortlived run in 68, ran against Ford in 76, and won in 80. McCain lost in 00 to GWB, and returned as nominee in 2008. Romney lost in 2008 but became nominee in 2012. Nixon, lost in 60 as Ike's heir, became nominee in 1968. Dewey lost in 44 and became nominee again in 48.
Result, GOP would rather have warmed over losers that were 'safe' than first time winners. The GOP has always been more involved in making sure that the nominee is safe and ironically the successful GOP presidents like Ike, Roosevelt, or Coolidge were somewhat of outsiders.
Posted by: whig at March 20, 2023 01:20 PM (Bmix2)
The GOP may often put them up as the eventual candidate but in most cases other competitors weren't shut out at the start.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 20, 2023 01:21 PM (eYoxG)
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I'm not getting any younger and there is nothing good on TV anyways.
Let's get this war started.
Posted by: humphreyrobot at March 20, 2023 01:14 PM (bjh/i)
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Milf Manor was on last night.
Let's get this war started.
Posted by: humphreyrobot at March 20, 2023 01:14 PM (bjh/i)
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Milf Manor was on last night.
Posted by: wth at March 20, 2023 01:23 PM (v0R5T)
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Trump isn't IN New York. He's in Florida. New York cops have no jurisdiction in Florida.
And? You figure the state of Florida should refuse to extradite someone arrested in another state?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 20, 2023 12:55 PM (0hOvj)
You damn straight we( seasonal FL resident) refuse. This ain't bean bag. It's political war. Bout time we kicked THEM in the balls -- just as they do to us every chance they get.
And? You figure the state of Florida should refuse to extradite someone arrested in another state?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 20, 2023 12:55 PM (0hOvj)
You damn straight we( seasonal FL resident) refuse. This ain't bean bag. It's political war. Bout time we kicked THEM in the balls -- just as they do to us every chance they get.
Posted by: Beyond Norman Parameters at March 20, 2023 01:23 PM (I463o)
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Is any Trump supporter the slightest bit open to the fact that he might be losing some voters just based on him as a person?
Posted by: Blago
Yes, it is quite obvious that he loses votes of people like you and your acquaintances. But he gains voters on the lower end of the scale and minorities. The question then is whether the gain by his populism loses more votes than gains them.
Hint, there are more potential voters below the median income level for a GOP candidate than above it due to cultural conditioning of our college educated ruling class. But, those voters are transactional which is an anathema to GOPe types.
Posted by: Blago
Yes, it is quite obvious that he loses votes of people like you and your acquaintances. But he gains voters on the lower end of the scale and minorities. The question then is whether the gain by his populism loses more votes than gains them.
Hint, there are more potential voters below the median income level for a GOP candidate than above it due to cultural conditioning of our college educated ruling class. But, those voters are transactional which is an anathema to GOPe types.
Posted by: whig at March 20, 2023 01:25 PM (Bmix2)
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 20, 2023 01:25 PM (ynpvh)
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For sure it was an op. No question. Trump should have pardoned them all.
Posted by: Miss Issippi at March 20, 2023 01:18 PM (sI15f)
Including the antifa plants? How was he supposed to know who to pardon and who not to? A blanket pardon of terrorists doesn't seem very smart, does it?
Posted by: Miss Issippi at March 20, 2023 01:18 PM (sI15f)
Including the antifa plants? How was he supposed to know who to pardon and who not to? A blanket pardon of terrorists doesn't seem very smart, does it?
Posted by: ... at March 20, 2023 01:26 PM (BXxcV)
Posted by: irongrampa at March 20, 2023 01:27 PM (KATBx)
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Yes, it is quite obvious that he loses votes of people like you and your acquaintances. But he gains voters on the lower end of the scale and minorities. The question then is whether the gain by his populism loses more votes than gains them.
Hint, there are more potential voters below the median income level for a GOP candidate than above it due to cultural conditioning of our college educated ruling class. But, those voters are transactional which is an anathema to GOPe types.
Posted by: whi
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Except this strategy continues to lose.
If it was successful in 2020 and 2022, I would be open to it.
Hint, there are more potential voters below the median income level for a GOP candidate than above it due to cultural conditioning of our college educated ruling class. But, those voters are transactional which is an anathema to GOPe types.
Posted by: whi
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Except this strategy continues to lose.
If it was successful in 2020 and 2022, I would be open to it.
Posted by: Blago at March 20, 2023 01:31 PM (QKiPx)
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Hint, there are more potential voters below the median income level for a GOP candidate than above it due to cultural conditioning of our college educated ruling class. But, those voters are transactional which is an anathema to GOPe types.
Posted by: whig at March 20, 2023 01:25 PM (Bmix2)
Bingo. YUGE bingo!
Posted by: whig at March 20, 2023 01:25 PM (Bmix2)
Bingo. YUGE bingo!
Posted by: Beyond Norman Parameters at March 20, 2023 01:32 PM (BXWEC)
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The GOP may often put them up as the eventual candidate but in most cases other competitors weren't shut out at the start.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy
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Yes, they were. Prior to the collapse of the federally funded presidential primary system, those with name recognition and party support won at all levels. After that ended with GWB and McCain, 2008 to 2016 elections had a spread of no hope candidates which is how McCain won with a minority of GOP primary votes in 08, and Romney as heir apparent easily dispatched Gingrich and Santorum along with no hoper Ron Paul. Despite the Ron Paul unlikeliness to win, the GOP purposefully and in secret changed rules, eliminated avenues for Ron Paul to speak, etc.
The GOP as a party organization is rife with insider dealings and tradings that have little to do with its base's interests. Instead, you get an iron triangle of state and local gop organizations that exist mainly to dispatch outsiders from running by any means necessary. I suggest you volunteer and work within a party organization for awhile and you will see shit that definitely will change your mind about these corrupt hacks.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy
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Yes, they were. Prior to the collapse of the federally funded presidential primary system, those with name recognition and party support won at all levels. After that ended with GWB and McCain, 2008 to 2016 elections had a spread of no hope candidates which is how McCain won with a minority of GOP primary votes in 08, and Romney as heir apparent easily dispatched Gingrich and Santorum along with no hoper Ron Paul. Despite the Ron Paul unlikeliness to win, the GOP purposefully and in secret changed rules, eliminated avenues for Ron Paul to speak, etc.
The GOP as a party organization is rife with insider dealings and tradings that have little to do with its base's interests. Instead, you get an iron triangle of state and local gop organizations that exist mainly to dispatch outsiders from running by any means necessary. I suggest you volunteer and work within a party organization for awhile and you will see shit that definitely will change your mind about these corrupt hacks.
Posted by: whig at March 20, 2023 01:32 PM (Bmix2)
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I would welcome the clarity of a hot civil war
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 20, 2023 12:12 PM (/6ur0)"
Eh, there is no clarity in a modern civil war.
It's all death squads and sniping and carjacking, bombs in the public spaces, kidnapping, and "random" shootings.
It about you shooting your neighbor becuz you think he might just be thinking about shooting you. And defending yourself and your family cuz your neighbor has decided to shoot you cuz of your politics or maybe cuz he remembers you have a bottle of Jack Daniels in your house.
Just to be clear. I'm not for violence or civil war at all.
I hope it doesn't come top that point, but it will, most likely if the Republicans continue to refuse to use their power to uphold law and defund and punish the left when and if they ever get power again.
Oh, and it won't be Trump's arrest that starts things at all. It won't help, but it won't be the match that lights the fuse.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 20, 2023 12:12 PM (/6ur0)"
Eh, there is no clarity in a modern civil war.
It's all death squads and sniping and carjacking, bombs in the public spaces, kidnapping, and "random" shootings.
It about you shooting your neighbor becuz you think he might just be thinking about shooting you. And defending yourself and your family cuz your neighbor has decided to shoot you cuz of your politics or maybe cuz he remembers you have a bottle of Jack Daniels in your house.
Just to be clear. I'm not for violence or civil war at all.
I hope it doesn't come top that point, but it will, most likely if the Republicans continue to refuse to use their power to uphold law and defund and punish the left when and if they ever get power again.
Oh, and it won't be Trump's arrest that starts things at all. It won't help, but it won't be the match that lights the fuse.
Posted by: naturalfake at March 20, 2023 01:33 PM (L1tQx)
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If it was successful in 2020 and 2022, I would be open to it.
Posted by: Blago
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Using our admittedly corrupt election system, how do you know it wasn't successful. Your refusal to admit election fraud on a massive scale in urban areas is where you lose most people with what you post.
Posted by: Blago
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Using our admittedly corrupt election system, how do you know it wasn't successful. Your refusal to admit election fraud on a massive scale in urban areas is where you lose most people with what you post.
Posted by: whig at March 20, 2023 01:33 PM (Bmix2)
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436 Ditto. Biden’s economy is why I took Social Security early and now have a part-time job.
Posted by: Moonbeam
You can get SS at 29 ?
Who knew ?
Posted by: JT at March 20, 2023 12:57 PM
I got a special hardship exemption JT!
Posted by: Moonbeam
You can get SS at 29 ?
Who knew ?
Posted by: JT at March 20, 2023 12:57 PM
I got a special hardship exemption JT!
Posted by: Moonbeam at March 20, 2023 01:34 PM (rbKZ6)
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Violence? Probably, but not on a regular civil war order.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at March 20, 2023 12:15 PM (KSNKu)
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I agree with your premise, but full blown violence will come. What will look like will be very interesting. I'm not sure the world has seen anything like it before.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at March 20, 2023 12:15 PM (KSNKu)
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I agree with your premise, but full blown violence will come. What will look like will be very interesting. I'm not sure the world has seen anything like it before.
Posted by: insurgens ad opus at March 20, 2023 01:36 PM (b306O)
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Is any Trump supporter the slightest bit open to the fact that he might be losing some voters just based on him as a person?
Posted by: Blago
Sure.
There are plenty of people who were stupid enough to throw away a booming economy and world-peace and control of China and racial harmony, etc, etc, etc-
all becuz Trump hurts muh feelz.
And they are stupid. so stupid, they voted for a chump known for his stupidity and corruption over decades in Congress cuz they "liked his personality.
So, yup. Stupid wins a lot of the time.
Posted by: Blago
Sure.
There are plenty of people who were stupid enough to throw away a booming economy and world-peace and control of China and racial harmony, etc, etc, etc-
all becuz Trump hurts muh feelz.
And they are stupid. so stupid, they voted for a chump known for his stupidity and corruption over decades in Congress cuz they "liked his personality.
So, yup. Stupid wins a lot of the time.
Posted by: naturalfake at March 20, 2023 01:38 PM (L1tQx)
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Bragg knows about SOL.
This is deflection from other D effups.
And Bragg wants to run for President.
This is deflection from other D effups.
And Bragg wants to run for President.
Posted by: torabora at March 20, 2023 01:48 PM (OUiUM)
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If it ever goes 'hot' the history books will show that it started with a low heat the day Trump threw his hat in the ring. Low level democide which took years for the victims too figure "this shit is real. The State, not deep state, is killing us."
That is almost always how it goes.
And it almost always never goes hot. Democide victims never figure out until it is too late to go hot.
That is almost always how it goes.
And it almost always never goes hot. Democide victims never figure out until it is too late to go hot.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at March 20, 2023 01:52 PM (UFPsS)
Posted by: DOYLE at March 20, 2023 02:05 PM (Z8Yh2)
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Writing from a Nazi prison (he was hanged just before his camp was liberated by the Allies) Reverend Dietrich Bonhoeffer wrote that "stupid people are more dangerous than evil ones"...
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Posted by: Ju at March 20, 2023 02:27 PM (aTmM/)
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Not impressed by DeSantis' statement. We all agree that Soros prosecutors are vile arsonists, but there about 100,000 Little Soroses in Washington DC, NYC, etc. . . it's just that most of them don't have $100 billion or whatever. Forget the "dig" against Trump, which I agree is fair game . . . the worrisome aspect is how small his perspective is compared to how enormous the stakes are.
One wonders whether DeSantis - who has been fantastic as Florida governor - sees anti-wokism as just a temporary political tactic that can be discarded once he gets a first class upgrade?
One wonders whether DeSantis - who has been fantastic as Florida governor - sees anti-wokism as just a temporary political tactic that can be discarded once he gets a first class upgrade?
Posted by: Bamanarama at March 20, 2023 02:42 PM (uH1aC)
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Are we going to arrest Hillary Clinton next? If not, why not?
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1. No.
2. You know why.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 20, 2023 12:10 PM
1. Agreed.
2. Because, "what difference, at this point, does it make?"
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1. No.
2. You know why.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 20, 2023 12:10 PM
1. Agreed.
2. Because, "what difference, at this point, does it make?"
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at March 20, 2023 03:19 PM (Do5/p)
642
Ever listen to Michael Cohen speak? When he started appearing on Fox when Trump ran for President I couldn't believe Trump hired a retard.
Posted by: Steve at March 20, 2023 03:26 PM (vPqS3)
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If you wind up protesting after the Trump arrest make sure you take pictures of everyone you can so you can find the Fed plants in the crowds.
Posted by: Steve at March 20, 2023 03:45 PM (vPqS3)
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Will the Democrats get the UN Blue Helmets Antifa or BLM or perhaps China to aid them?
Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at March 20, 2023 04:28 PM (wGqjj)
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