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Sunday Morning Book Thread - 03-12-2023 ["Perfessor" Squirrel]
PIC NOTE
Finding a good pic for the Sunday Morning Book Thread is always a challenge. Fortunately, a simple search for "unique library" can turn up interesting results. Today's pic is from the Browne Popular Culture Library at Bowling Greene State University. It's been around for over 50 years at this point. From what I can tell, it's an extensive collection of pop culture memorabilia. While it's open to the public, you are not permitted to wander through the stacks. Instead you have to request materials from the library staff. So it's not quite as cool as it could be if you could just browse on your own. On the upside, there are lots of materials that you won't find in other libraries, such as junk mail, Sears catalogs, and the largest collection of materials related to romance novels. For pop culture scholars, it's probably a gold mine of cool information and relics. PUBLIC DOMAIN CHARACTERS OrangeEnt recently asked a question about public domain characters, where he wanted to know how they are treated when someone wants to write a story using them. It's a good question to explore. As far as I can tell, there are NO restrictions on how you use public domain characters in your stories. You want to write steamy romance stories about Captain Ahab (before he became obsessed with a certain whale)? Knock yourself out! You want to throw Robin Hood into a Lovecraftian horror story? Sounds exciting! Want to gender swap all the characters in Peter Pan? Well, might want to hold off on that one... I think aspiring writers can learn a lot by trying to incorporate a public domain character into a story. First of all, you don't have to come up with your own character, which is always a plus. Saves you a lot of work in development if you are using a character that is already known to your audience. The downside is that you really should be VERY familiar with that character. I don't know all that much about Quasimodo, other than that he's the Hunchback of Notre Dame, so I'd have to read the story numerous times to get a solid feel for how he looks, acts, and behaves if I wanted to include him in a story. You should also be familiar with the genre in which the character appears. Again, I'd be terrible at writing about characters in a Jane Austen novel because I'm only vaguely familiar with her works, though I did enjoy Mansfield Park when I read it in college many moons ago. It's not a genre that I normally read. If you want to do a mashup of characters from different genres, you should be intimately familiar with both the characters and the genres so that you can construct a compelling story. Established authors often have a lot of fun with public domain characters, using them in unusual and interesting ways, though I've also seen at least one instance where it didn't work for me. For instance, Lois H. Gresh attempted to mashup Arthur Conan Doyle and H.P. Lovecraft in Sherlock Holmes v. Cthulhu: The Adventure of the Deadly Dimensions. She failed to capture the spirit of either author and I was quickly thrown out of the experience because she didn't fully understand the material. On the other hand, Neil Gaiman's short story, "A Study in Emerald" is a delightful subversion of both Doyle and Lovecraft with a cool twist at the end. He knows his subject matter and he understands the characters. This is the same reason I thoroughly enjoyed Anno Dracula by Kim Newman. He takes a familiar story (the murders of Jack the Ripper), throws in a layer of Bram Stoker's Dracula, and turns everything inside out so that "Jack" becomes a sympathetic protagonist/antagonist. So, what public domain characters do you like to see in stories? What makes them compelling? What kind of weird mashups can you envision? What's the most bizarre or unusual instance of a public domain character you've ever seen? (As a sidenote, there's a related trope called Public Domain Artifacts, where famous objects from history/mythology show up in stories. For example, Excalibur, the Ark of the Covenant, the Spear of Destiny, the Shroud of Turin, the Holy Grail, etc. Jim Butcher's Dresden Files series uses most of them in some fashion or another.)
(Because I'm a sucker for cute cat pictures...)
Comment: I first encountered this word in Magic: The Gathering, as it's the name of a fun little card (2B, Enchantment, Whenever an opponent discards a card, Megrim deals 2 damage to that player.). I had no idea it had an actual meaning until this past week.
megrim - n - 1. depression or low spirits 2. a whim or fancy.
Comment: This is another word I've encountered in the past in a different context. If I remember correctly (it's been many years), Clive Barker used this term in his story Imajica to describe a way of casting magic by using pneuma via a fancy breathing technique. Angus Wells uses the term more closely related to the definition given above to describe the spiritual force of the characters when they are accessing the aethyreal (or spiritual) plane. BONUS WORD:
pneuma - n - the vital spirit, soul, or creative force of a person.
Comment: Zoltan is correct in that The Powers That Be will continue to abuse their power over us until they are stopped somehow. In a just world, we all know what should happen. But we don't live in that world. It'll be interesting to see how many folks go "HELL, NO!" the next time a pandemic rears its ugly head and they try to control us again.
I read Rise of the Fourth Reich: Confronting COVID Fascism With A New Nuremberg Trial So This Never Happens Again by Steve Deace and Daniel Horowitz. Deace was one of the earliest to warn against the COVID jabs, and his book, Faucian Bargain, explained why he was against them and made his case against Dr. Fauci. Now after the craziness of mandatory jabs and mask wearing, an economic shutdown, school closures, and increased governmental control over our lives, Deace and Horowitz are calling for a new Nuremberg trial patterned after the Nuremberg medical trials which held Nazi doctors and nurses responsible for their actions. Without people being held responsible for their lies and deceptions, which led to great hard and deaths for too many of our citizens, they will do this to us again and again. They are already talking about and planning for another once-in-a-century pandemic to hit us in the next few years. Posted by: Zoltan at March 05, 2023 09:18 AM (Eo7K+)
Comment: When traveling in hostile territory, there's a lot to be said for "going native." Doing everything you can to blend in and not cause offense to your hosts will go a long way to earn their trust, when they are rightfully suspicious of outsiders who may try to impose their own values on the local culture. This is especially true if you are traveling alone. We've all heard stories of idiot backpackers traveling in Iran or Afghanistan who are never heard from again. Most likely because they didn't understand the culture and didn't try to blend in.
Just finished the first book of Burton's First Footsteps in East Africa, about his journey to Harar in Somalia in the 1850s. This was a big deal because Somalia (plus ca change) was hostile to foreigners in general and "Nazrani" (Christians) in particular. Burton went in disguise (sort of) and at least went through the motions of acting Muslim. According to some bios I've seen he was a sincere convert, but I think he had no patience for any formal religion. Great stuff. Lots of utterly problematic commentary on the Somalis, Arabs, Abyssinians -- with plenty of bile left over for the British. Also practical details of travel in hostile Muslim lands untouched by modern civilization. Great last line, too: on his first night in the Forbidden City of Harar he settles down to sleep: "I was under the roof of a bigoted prince whose least word was death; amongst a people who detest foreigners; the only European that had ever passed over their inhospitable threshold, and the fated instrument of their future downfall." Posted by: Trimegistus at March 05, 2023 10:11 AM (QZxDR)
Comment: Much of the old pulp fiction tales are available online these days (e.g., The Pulp Magazine Archive). Lots of great stories to be had, though as werewife points out, they do tend portray unfortunate stereotypes. Not sure if the "sensitivity readers" will ever start editing those tales. One volume of pulp fiction probably contains enough "problematic content" to give a sensitivity reader a fatal stroke. Hmmmm...now that gives me an idea...
I've been having a grand time with the second volume of the collected adventures of Seabury Quinn's paranormal investigator Dr. Jules de Grandin. The stories ran in Weird Tales magazine in the '20s and 30s, and of course contain all the usual stereotypes that render old pulp fiction unprintable these days, but generally leavened by a core of basic decency. Of course there's always a beautiful damsel in distress and an appalling Force of Eee-vil from which to rescue her...but the greatest pleasure is the character of de Grandin himself, with his endless variety of unique oaths (beginning with "Name of a little green man!" and getting weirder from there, alternating English and French), his legitimately earned Trumpian ego, his unabashed love of fine living, and his complete unacceptance of fear. (You can get 3 notable ones for only 99 cents in the Wildside Press Occult Detective Megapack, and the 5 big volumes with the complete reprints are available on the Hoopla library app.) Posted by: werewife, princess of Delray Beach at March 05, 2023 10:38 AM (SPNTN)
Comment: KatieFloyd makes an excellent point of being "in the mood" to read certain stories. I know that I have to be in a certain mood to start reading nonfiction most of the time. Even fiction requires me to be in the mood. For instance, starting a lengthy series requires me to be in the right frame of mind. Right now I'm mostly in the mood for "fluff" that doesn't take too much of my brain to process, mainly because I have projects at work that demand most of my brainpower. More Moron-recommended reading material can be found HERE! (672 Moron-recommended books so far!)
I just restarted The Patient in Room Nine Says He's God by Louis Profeta. When I bought this book I was expecting crazy ER stories. After reading a few pages, I realized it was more about finding God in our day to day lives and I set it aside. I noticed it on my bookshelf last night and decided it might be the right time to actually settle down and read this one. Maybe it's normal, but I'm always surprised how much my reading preferences vary depending on mood, energy, circumstances, and who knows what else. Posted by: KatieFloyd at March 05, 2023 11:02 AM (ob77J)
- Guardians of the Flame 1 - The Sleeping Dragon by Joel Rosenberg -- One of my college roommates recommended this series and I never took him up on the offer to read these...
- Guardians of the Flame 2 - The Sword and the Chain by Joel Rosenberg
- Guardians of the Flame 4 - The Heir Apparent by Joel Rosenberg
- Guardians of the Flame 6 - The Road to Ehvenor by Joel Rosenberg
- Guardians of the Flame 7 - The Road Home by Joel Rosenberg
- Gloriana by Michael Moorcock -- I'm generally a sucker for Moorcock, though there are a few books I have not enjoyed...
- The Morgaine Saga by C.J. Cherryh -- Has a very interesting premise...
- Homecoming 1 - Archmage by R.A. Salvatore -- I have this series on Kindle so figured I'd just go ahead and buy the physical copies.
- Homecoming 2 - Maestro by R.A. Salvatore
- Homecoming 3 - Hero by R.A. Salvatore
- Godwars Book 3 - Wild Magic by Angus Wells -- The thrilling conclusion to the Godwars saga. It's actually pretty decent fantasy and a good way to pass the time. Also a good way to improve one's vocabulary as Wells likes to sprinkle in obscure words in his prose.
- Forgotten Realms - Harpers 4 - The Night Parade by Scott Ciencin -- Myrmeen Lahl, ruler of the city of Arabel, discovers that the daughter she thought she had lost 14 years ago was sold to the mysterious and evil Night Parade and is still alive. She goes an on epic quest to retrieve her daughter from their evil clutches and end the Night Parade once and for all.
- Sherlock Holmes and the Giant Rat of Sumatra by Alan Vanneman -- This is based on an "untold story" first referenced in Arthur Conan Doyle's "The Adventure of the Sussex Vampire." Numerous authors have attempted to fill in this gap in Sherlockiana.
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Howdy Perfessor!
Posted by: Doof at March 12, 2023 08:01 AM (yUjc0)
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Tolle Lege!
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at March 12, 2023 08:01 AM (PiwSw)
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Booken morgen horden!
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at March 12, 2023 08:05 AM (fUnHJ)
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I called the otters. Must be looking for pants
Posted by: Doof at March 12, 2023 08:05 AM (yUjc0)
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So, what public domain characters do you like to see in stories? What makes them compelling? What kind of weird mashups can you envision?
I'd like to see a mashup of Confucius with Buddha. You'd think it would be sedate and enlightening, with wall to wall aphorisms, but neither can stand the other and their throwdown is epic. At least, it is, until Genghis Khan gets tired of their nonsense.
I'd like to see a mashup of Confucius with Buddha. You'd think it would be sedate and enlightening, with wall to wall aphorisms, but neither can stand the other and their throwdown is epic. At least, it is, until Genghis Khan gets tired of their nonsense.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 12, 2023 08:07 AM (eOEVl)
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Everyone else forgot to set their clocks for Sunday Morning Book Thread Daylight Time.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 12, 2023 08:07 AM (BpYfr)
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Yay book thread! I see a couple of people have given five-star ratings to Walls of Men. Thank you!
High ratings and positive reviews are crucial to helping Moron authors succeed. In the non-fiction genre, I think it carries greater weight because people often know what they want (say a book on the Spanish Civil War) but they don't know which one is best for them.
A positive rating and good reviews help to direct them away from leftist agitprop garbage and towards the bracing shock of empiric truth.
High ratings and positive reviews are crucial to helping Moron authors succeed. In the non-fiction genre, I think it carries greater weight because people often know what they want (say a book on the Spanish Civil War) but they don't know which one is best for them.
A positive rating and good reviews help to direct them away from leftist agitprop garbage and towards the bracing shock of empiric truth.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 12, 2023 08:07 AM (llXky)
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No Read This Week.
Posted by: rhennigantx at March 12, 2023 08:08 AM (BRHaw)
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I have driven by the library at BGSU hundreds of times over the years. I never knew it was there. Well, next time. . .
Posted by: Tonypete at March 12, 2023 08:09 AM (qoGsy)
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I fairly certain we need to get Ben Franklin up in here with his printing press so he can school all of the suicidal trannies and the miserable woke activists.
Posted by: Dr. Bone at March 12, 2023 08:10 AM (Jg7EG)
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doublebooking is for amateurs. If i'm not triplebooked, I'm quadruple of quintiplebooked.
Posted by: yara at March 12, 2023 08:10 AM (QdFtX)
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Sadly, I continue to read for escape, not edification.
Posted by: Ladyl at March 12, 2023 08:11 AM (+4oV5)
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Sadly, I continue to read for escape, not edification.
Posted by: Ladyl at March 12, 2023 08:11 AM (+4oV5)
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There's no shame in that! It's amazing how much knowledge you can pick up reading for entertainment.
Posted by: Ladyl at March 12, 2023 08:11 AM (+4oV5)
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There's no shame in that! It's amazing how much knowledge you can pick up reading for entertainment.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 12, 2023 08:12 AM (BpYfr)
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Doublebooking is perfectly cromulent, as long as you don't doublebook within a genre.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at March 12, 2023 08:12 AM (PiwSw)
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at March 12, 2023 08:12 AM (OX9vb)
Posted by: Pete Buttgiger at March 12, 2023 08:12 AM (Angsy)
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Good morning fellow Book Threadists. I hope everyone had a great week of reading.
Posted by: JTB at March 12, 2023 08:13 AM (7EjX1)
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This week I finished Hunter S. Thompson's book on the Hell's Angels.
It was edifying but a little depressing. This was HST's breakthrough book, the project that made him a literary star and birthed "gonzo journalism." I wasn't sure what to expect, and I was a bit disappointed to see that his writing, pacing, etc. were already fully formed. He experienced zero development as an writer, only decline.
As to the book itself, it is an account of a year he spent with the outlaw motorcycle gang in the mid-1960s. It is generally chronological, but HST digresses into specific topics when the narrative permits it. Like his other work, his tone changes sharply depending on what drugs he's using. He can be formal, factual and informative, apologetic and defensive or completely delusional and unhinged. I think the latter flights of fancy were what people enjoyed (I know I did when I discovered him in high school) but at this late date the act has played out.
Nevertheless, the book is an interesting snapshot of California at its zenith - prosperous, growing, libertine but also strictly enforcing laws.
It was edifying but a little depressing. This was HST's breakthrough book, the project that made him a literary star and birthed "gonzo journalism." I wasn't sure what to expect, and I was a bit disappointed to see that his writing, pacing, etc. were already fully formed. He experienced zero development as an writer, only decline.
As to the book itself, it is an account of a year he spent with the outlaw motorcycle gang in the mid-1960s. It is generally chronological, but HST digresses into specific topics when the narrative permits it. Like his other work, his tone changes sharply depending on what drugs he's using. He can be formal, factual and informative, apologetic and defensive or completely delusional and unhinged. I think the latter flights of fancy were what people enjoyed (I know I did when I discovered him in high school) but at this late date the act has played out.
Nevertheless, the book is an interesting snapshot of California at its zenith - prosperous, growing, libertine but also strictly enforcing laws.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 12, 2023 08:13 AM (llXky)
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Damn! Overslept.
Posted by: Weak Geek at March 12, 2023 08:14 AM (Om/di)
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I know what you mean about mashups failing when the writer doesn't know enough about one side (or both sides) of the mashup to do justice to them.
I once started a mystery with Winston Churchill as the protagonist. It was set at Sandhurst when he was a cadet there. I thought "Cool, two of my favorite things!"
I didn't even get a quarter of the way into it before I said, this guy knows very little about Churchill and almost nothing about the aristocratic English life of the time period. There were all kinds of discordant missteps. What a disappointment.
BTW, megrim was a common term in the Regency era, usually as "blue megrims" meaning depressed, sad.
I once started a mystery with Winston Churchill as the protagonist. It was set at Sandhurst when he was a cadet there. I thought "Cool, two of my favorite things!"
I didn't even get a quarter of the way into it before I said, this guy knows very little about Churchill and almost nothing about the aristocratic English life of the time period. There were all kinds of discordant missteps. What a disappointment.
BTW, megrim was a common term in the Regency era, usually as "blue megrims" meaning depressed, sad.
Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at March 12, 2023 08:14 AM (fTtFy)
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I did a re-telling of the Lone Ranger and Tonto for my series of Lone Star stories. (Lone Star Sons, Lone Star Glory and soon-to-be released Lone Star Blood) Although it wasn't so much the characters of the Lone Ranger and Tonto, I visualized them both in the context of the historical Republic of Texas and the traditional Western ethos.
And as for reusing materiel in the public domain, one of the stories in Lone Star Blood (which was previously published in the anthology Tales Around the Supper Table Vol. 2) is a reworking of Kipling's "The Man Who Would Be King" - only set on the American SW frontier, with two British adventurers. A homage - and not a rip-off, as one disgruntled reviewer had it.
And as for reusing materiel in the public domain, one of the stories in Lone Star Blood (which was previously published in the anthology Tales Around the Supper Table Vol. 2) is a reworking of Kipling's "The Man Who Would Be King" - only set on the American SW frontier, with two British adventurers. A homage - and not a rip-off, as one disgruntled reviewer had it.
Posted by: Sgt. Mom at March 12, 2023 08:15 AM (xnmPy)
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Sadly, I continue to read for escape, not edification.
Posted by: Ladyl at March 12, 2023 08:11 AM (+4oV5)
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Depending on the topic, edification can be an escape. I particularly enjoy going back to time before wokes and their idiocy, when people were more serious about life and faith.
Posted by: Ladyl at March 12, 2023 08:11 AM (+4oV5)
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Depending on the topic, edification can be an escape. I particularly enjoy going back to time before wokes and their idiocy, when people were more serious about life and faith.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 12, 2023 08:16 AM (llXky)
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Sadly, I continue to read for escape, not edification.
Posted by: Ladyl
"Dear Penthouse, I never thought I'd been writing to the Penthouse Forum. . . . "
Posted by: Ladyl
"Dear Penthouse, I never thought I'd been writing to the Penthouse Forum. . . . "
Posted by: Tonypete at March 12, 2023 08:16 AM (qoGsy)
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Good morning again morons
There were absolutely crimes against humanity perpetrated for which justice must come as swiftly as possible.
There were absolutely crimes against humanity perpetrated for which justice must come as swiftly as possible.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at March 12, 2023 08:16 AM (EZebt)
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Wondered is DST would kick in. It has for you, not for me. I'll catch up later. Did read The Three Hostages by some Brit in 1924, recommended here of course or why would I have had it. Back to sleep.
Posted by: From about That Time at March 12, 2023 08:17 AM (4780s)
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A positive rating and good reviews help to direct them away from leftist agitprop garbage and towards the bracing shock of empiric truth.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 12, 2023 08:07 AM (llXky)
Someone could rewrite that into a review blurb for your book.
"A.H Lloyd's masterful work is superior to the subject's usual leftist agitprop garbage and is replaced with the bracing shock of empiric truth."
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 12, 2023 08:07 AM (llXky)
Someone could rewrite that into a review blurb for your book.
"A.H Lloyd's masterful work is superior to the subject's usual leftist agitprop garbage and is replaced with the bracing shock of empiric truth."
Posted by: OrangeEnt at March 12, 2023 08:18 AM (Angsy)
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Maybe Black Jack Pershing could declare a truce with Pancho Villa and they could then develop a network to traffic humans, guns and drugs across the border.
Posted by: Dr. Bone at March 12, 2023 08:19 AM (Jg7EG)
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I've been reading for edification & enlightenment on income tax compliance. Thrills a minute, I tells ya.
Posted by: Count de Monet at March 12, 2023 08:20 AM (4I/2K)
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DC Comics used the Spear of Destiny to explain why the Justice Society of America and other heroes didn't smash the Third Reich immediately after the Pearl Harbor attack.
And have you heard of the Fourth Nail? I hadn't until I read about it in an Indiana Jones story published by Marvel. (That book was a case of missed opportunities.)
And have you heard of the Fourth Nail? I hadn't until I read about it in an Indiana Jones story published by Marvel. (That book was a case of missed opportunities.)
Posted by: Weak Geek at March 12, 2023 08:21 AM (Om/di)
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Attention to murder the amazon reviewers thought it seemed legit
Posted by: No 6 at March 12, 2023 08:22 AM (PXvVL)
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23 Sadly, I continue to read for escape, not edification.
Posted by: Ladyl
"Dear Penthouse, I never thought I'd been writing to the Penthouse Forum. . . . "
Posted by: Tonypete at March 12, 2023 08:16 AM (qoGsy)
Ha!
You're not at church! Have you found one yet?
23 Sadly, I continue to read for escape, not edification.
Posted by: Ladyl
"Dear Penthouse, I never thought I'd been writing to the Penthouse Forum. . . . "
Posted by: Tonypete at March 12, 2023 08:16 AM (qoGsy)
Ha!
You're not at church! Have you found one yet?
Posted by: Ladyl at March 12, 2023 08:23 AM (+4oV5)
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"The War of the Worlds"? Hardly. This was an overwhelming assault.
Although this book is more than 100 years old, I don't want to spoil the ending, which I found logical yet abrupt. I noted parallelisms to what we are experiencing today.
How to describe this story? Imaginative, turgid, and gruesome. Imaginative: Nothing like this had been written, and H.G. Wells is descriptive with Martian physiology. Turgid: The narrator spends days traipsing through London and winds up next to a Martian beachhead, hiding in a house covered with earth dislodged by a Martian shell. He does little else. Gruesome: The panicked evacuation of London, with broken bones and bloodshed; some fleeing pedestrians had unfortunate encounters with wagons and carriages on the crowded roads.
(Wells also cites a lot of London neighborhoods. I dug out my Times of London atlas (1962) and still couldn't find everywhere the narrator went. I wonder whether the name-dropping helped sales.)
A confession: The second League of Extraordinary Gentlemen comics story adapted TWotW, so I knew the gist of the ending.
(continued)
Although this book is more than 100 years old, I don't want to spoil the ending, which I found logical yet abrupt. I noted parallelisms to what we are experiencing today.
How to describe this story? Imaginative, turgid, and gruesome. Imaginative: Nothing like this had been written, and H.G. Wells is descriptive with Martian physiology. Turgid: The narrator spends days traipsing through London and winds up next to a Martian beachhead, hiding in a house covered with earth dislodged by a Martian shell. He does little else. Gruesome: The panicked evacuation of London, with broken bones and bloodshed; some fleeing pedestrians had unfortunate encounters with wagons and carriages on the crowded roads.
(Wells also cites a lot of London neighborhoods. I dug out my Times of London atlas (1962) and still couldn't find everywhere the narrator went. I wonder whether the name-dropping helped sales.)
A confession: The second League of Extraordinary Gentlemen comics story adapted TWotW, so I knew the gist of the ending.
(continued)
Posted by: Weak Geek at March 12, 2023 08:23 AM (Om/di)
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huh. it appears i was the other 5 star on Walls of Men. read it on KU, but just actually bought a Kindle copy.
Posted by: yara at March 12, 2023 08:24 AM (QdFtX)
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So -- keep or trade? Despite those classic images of the Martians' tripodal landcraft, one reading is enough, but Wells' imagination warrants that one reading. Then pass it on.
Posted by: Weak Geek at March 12, 2023 08:24 AM (Om/di)
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Nelson DeMille does not disappoint with his new one, "The Maze," starring Detective John Corey.
We get our books using Libby, the library app. Mostly we read on Kindles, some we listen to from a phone while traveling.
A terrific listen, excellently voice-acted, was Chris Bohjalian's "The Guest Room."
We get our books using Libby, the library app. Mostly we read on Kindles, some we listen to from a phone while traveling.
A terrific listen, excellently voice-acted, was Chris Bohjalian's "The Guest Room."
Posted by: Mr Gaga at March 12, 2023 08:26 AM (KiBMU)
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Tolle Lege
Picked up 2 sea fairing books, one fiction and other a biography
Nelson by David Walder and Ghe Yellow Admiral by Patrick O'Brian
Picked up 2 sea fairing books, one fiction and other a biography
Nelson by David Walder and Ghe Yellow Admiral by Patrick O'Brian
Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2023 08:26 AM (xhxe8)
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28 I've been reading for edification & enlightenment on income tax compliance. Thrills a minute, I tells ya.
Posted by: Count de Monet
High stakes, that growing sense of dread... it's a horror masterpiece!
Posted by: Count de Monet
High stakes, that growing sense of dread... it's a horror masterpiece!
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at March 12, 2023 08:27 AM (fUnHJ)
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I've been reading for edification & enlightenment on income tax compliance. Thrills a minute, I tells ya.
Posted by: Count de Monet at March 12, 2023 08:20 AM (4I/2K)
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We must be birds of a feather. That sounds tariffic!
Posted by: Count de Monet at March 12, 2023 08:20 AM (4I/2K)
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We must be birds of a feather. That sounds tariffic!
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at March 12, 2023 08:27 AM (Rl3IJ)
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I love the Guardians of the Flame books. They may not be high literature, but the characters are engaging, when it was written there hadn't been decades of isekai anime making the setup a cliche, and it's certainly a gritty take on a fantasy world.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at March 12, 2023 08:27 AM (UJJWg)
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I came across A Study in Emerald in graphic novel form (not a format I care for), and just drank it in on the spot.
So good
So good
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at March 12, 2023 08:28 AM (fUnHJ)
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Sadly, I continue to read for escape, not edification.
Posted by: Ladyl
I tend to read history books, lots of history books. But when I am down, I escape into novels. I've been reading a lot of novels in the past couple of years.
Posted by: Ladyl
I tend to read history books, lots of history books. But when I am down, I escape into novels. I've been reading a lot of novels in the past couple of years.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 12, 2023 08:28 AM (XMayQ)
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We have waited long enough for the refresh of Rambo First Blood set in the 100 acre wood with Winnie the Poo and piglet triggering violence by misunderstanding Rambo's intentions about the honey pot
Posted by: DaneSkold at March 12, 2023 08:28 AM (rsEpQ)
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This week I finished Neal Asher's collection of short stories 'Lockdown Tales'. As might be expected, these were all written during the Lockdown, and generally cover the period long after after the Polity-Prador Wars.
If that is not familiar to you, you're missing some of the best space opera hard tech science fiction around. I love Asher and the Polity series. Great human, non-human, and AI characters, big ideas bursting with relevance, and action action action.
And the cherry on the cake - no sucker punches. No cheap shots at either political side, no subliminal social engineer, no emphasis on anyone's genitals, or lack thereof. Just good, clean, mind expanding sci-fi.
If that is not familiar to you, you're missing some of the best space opera hard tech science fiction around. I love Asher and the Polity series. Great human, non-human, and AI characters, big ideas bursting with relevance, and action action action.
And the cherry on the cake - no sucker punches. No cheap shots at either political side, no subliminal social engineer, no emphasis on anyone's genitals, or lack thereof. Just good, clean, mind expanding sci-fi.
Posted by: Candidus at March 12, 2023 08:28 AM (KGQLL)
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There are some books written as companions/sequels to War of the Worlds that are interesting. One expands the battle of HMS Thunderchild against Martian walkers into a novella -- good stuff, even if the Thunderchild is a bigger mystery than the Martians.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at March 12, 2023 08:29 AM (UJJWg)
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Not a book BUT ... that Poe murder mystery on Netflix is pretty good. It felt ... respectful.
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at March 12, 2023 08:29 AM (fUnHJ)
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Anna Puma posted a comment in an earlier thread that Baen Books is holding its annual Fantasy Adventure Award contest.
Not my cup of tea, but do they do the same for other genres?
Not my cup of tea, but do they do the same for other genres?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at March 12, 2023 08:29 AM (Angsy)
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About blending in with the culture:
I read that a British agent somewhere in Arab lands was unmasked because he didn't bend his knees while urinating.
Skxxxxx!
I read that a British agent somewhere in Arab lands was unmasked because he didn't bend his knees while urinating.
Skxxxxx!
Posted by: Weak Geek at March 12, 2023 08:32 AM (Om/di)
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This month's family book read is done and over with, thank God. My daughter chose, and here is my ANTI-recommendation: Hollow Beasts by Alisa Lynn Valdes. It happens to be this month's Amazon Prime Free Book.
Wokeness level: eleventy. It has everything--white supremacists who kidnap young latina women, Hispanic American game warden and sheriff, wolves, Hispanic American sheriff who thinks there should be a border wall (author frowns on this), grrrl power, one nice white guy, adoption, corrupt Democrats (whose only purpose appeared to be the author's shock that there could be such a thing as corrupt Democrats).
1/2 tbc
Wokeness level: eleventy. It has everything--white supremacists who kidnap young latina women, Hispanic American game warden and sheriff, wolves, Hispanic American sheriff who thinks there should be a border wall (author frowns on this), grrrl power, one nice white guy, adoption, corrupt Democrats (whose only purpose appeared to be the author's shock that there could be such a thing as corrupt Democrats).
1/2 tbc
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at March 12, 2023 08:33 AM (OX9vb)
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Anna Puma posted a comment in an earlier thread that Baen Books is holding its annual Fantasy Adventure Award contest.
Not my cup of tea, but do they do the same for other genres?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at March 12, 2023 08:29 AM (Angsy)
And if not, can someone with a Baen connection suggest such a contest to them?
Not my cup of tea, but do they do the same for other genres?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at March 12, 2023 08:29 AM (Angsy)
And if not, can someone with a Baen connection suggest such a contest to them?
Posted by: Candidus at March 12, 2023 08:34 AM (KGQLL)
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Anna Puma posted a comment in an earlier thread that Baen Books is holding its annual Fantasy Adventure Award contest.
Not my cup of tea, but do they do the same for other genres?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at March 12, 2023 08:29 AM (Angsy)
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Baen Books is entirely science fiction and fantasy. I don't know if they do one for science fiction.
Not my cup of tea, but do they do the same for other genres?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at March 12, 2023 08:29 AM (Angsy)
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Baen Books is entirely science fiction and fantasy. I don't know if they do one for science fiction.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 12, 2023 08:34 AM (BpYfr)
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So -- keep or trade? Despite those classic images of the Martians' tripodal landcraft, one reading is enough, but Wells' imagination warrants that one reading. Then pass it on.
Posted by: Weak Geek at March 12, 2023 08:24 AM (Om/di)
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I have a similar dilemma. I bought all three of Peter Kemp's wartime memoirs, but I can only imagine opening up one of them ever again. The last two were total slogs that I had to force myself to finish.
The first one (Mine Were of Trouble) was interesting to me because it was in the Spanish Civil War and gave me useful info.
Posted by: Weak Geek at March 12, 2023 08:24 AM (Om/di)
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I have a similar dilemma. I bought all three of Peter Kemp's wartime memoirs, but I can only imagine opening up one of them ever again. The last two were total slogs that I had to force myself to finish.
The first one (Mine Were of Trouble) was interesting to me because it was in the Spanish Civil War and gave me useful info.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 12, 2023 08:34 AM (llXky)
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Last week I finished reading "The Ink Black Heart" by J. K. Rowling. It was the latest book in her C. B. Strike detective series. Not bad, I enjoyed it enough to get through the series. I like Rowling's character development. This series is definitely not for children.
Posted by: lin-duh at March 12, 2023 08:35 AM (UUBmN)
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I did not know that, it comes from gypy lore, but it is a misunderstanding of the gospel, jesus had to die to fulfill thf covenant that he had been preaching on since the beginning
Posted by: No 6 at March 12, 2023 08:35 AM (PXvVL)
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High stakes, that growing sense of dread... it's a horror masterpiece!
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at March 12, 2023 08:27 AM (fUnHJ)
It's downright Hitchcockian!
We must be birds of a feather. That sounds tariffic!
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at March 12, 2023 08:27 AM (Rl3IJ)
+1
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at March 12, 2023 08:27 AM (fUnHJ)
It's downright Hitchcockian!
We must be birds of a feather. That sounds tariffic!
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at March 12, 2023 08:27 AM (Rl3IJ)
+1
Posted by: Count de Monet at March 12, 2023 08:35 AM (4I/2K)
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hiya
Posted by: JT at March 12, 2023 08:35 AM (T4tVD)
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Baen Books is entirely science fiction and fantasy. I don't know if they do one for science fiction.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 12, 2023 08:34 AM (BpYfr)
I can't remember, but did I send you a link about a publishing house, Perfessor?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 12, 2023 08:34 AM (BpYfr)
I can't remember, but did I send you a link about a publishing house, Perfessor?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at March 12, 2023 08:37 AM (Angsy)
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Earlier in the week, Ace had a thread about some brain dead council in the UK declaring that LOTR and other classics are beacons for white supremacy. LOTR!!!? This fits in so well with the left's efforts to destroy Western civilization generally and Christianity in particular. And this ties in with publishers deciding they know better than the author about how to make books more applicable to modern (i. e., stupid) readers. The recent fiasco about rewriting Dahl's children's stories is just one example. I didn't see a reference to CS Lewis but that can't be far behind.
More on a related matter below. But I have reached two conclusions. 1. If some power attacks Britain again, a la a world war, they can defend their own POS country. Great Britain is a lost, malignant cause. 2. If a book is important to me, I want it in physical, preferably hardcover, form.
More on a related matter below. But I have reached two conclusions. 1. If some power attacks Britain again, a la a world war, they can defend their own POS country. Great Britain is a lost, malignant cause. 2. If a book is important to me, I want it in physical, preferably hardcover, form.
Posted by: JTB at March 12, 2023 08:37 AM (7EjX1)
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Good morning and good Book Thread perfessor! I was happy to see you include a CJ Cherryh book in your acquisitions! That was the first sci-fi book I read, so it holds a special place in my heart!
I just finished Richard Osman's Thursday Murder Club. It's premise is a group of retirement home "older" folks who meet on Thursdays to solve cold case murders, and end up with an active murder case on their docket. Hijinks and more deaths ensue. I think I enjoyed it so much because I'm far closer to needing that old folks home than I care to admit!
I just finished Richard Osman's Thursday Murder Club. It's premise is a group of retirement home "older" folks who meet on Thursdays to solve cold case murders, and end up with an active murder case on their docket. Hijinks and more deaths ensue. I think I enjoyed it so much because I'm far closer to needing that old folks home than I care to admit!
Posted by: Moki at March 12, 2023 08:37 AM (JrN/x)
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"Perfessor" Squirrel
Thank you for another edition carrying on in the highest traditions of OregonMuse. You have a lot of fun content.
Thank you for another edition carrying on in the highest traditions of OregonMuse. You have a lot of fun content.
Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at March 12, 2023 08:38 AM (u82oZ)
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2/2 Hollow Beasts cont
I don't know how this author gets to be a NYT best selling author. Her prose is mediocre, at best. She can't tell a story without preaching.
Despite all of that, there are good points. She does try to balance her stereotypes with characters from "her side" who also do bad things. Several of the characters do the right thing, even when it would be easier not to. Pro-adoption, in the sense that a pregnant teenager did not seek an abortion (she wanted to keep the baby rather than give it up, but at least did not try to kill it).
Overall, 1/2 star.
I don't know how this author gets to be a NYT best selling author. Her prose is mediocre, at best. She can't tell a story without preaching.
Despite all of that, there are good points. She does try to balance her stereotypes with characters from "her side" who also do bad things. Several of the characters do the right thing, even when it would be easier not to. Pro-adoption, in the sense that a pregnant teenager did not seek an abortion (she wanted to keep the baby rather than give it up, but at least did not try to kill it).
Overall, 1/2 star.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at March 12, 2023 08:38 AM (OX9vb)
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I am reading for a devotional study for Lent- "The Practice of the Presence of God" by Brothet Lawrence / Alan Vermilyec. Brother Lawrence lived in the 1600's in France. and Alan Verilye Who includes some biblical quotes and reflections on applications of Brothet Lawrence's work.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 12, 2023 08:39 AM (N3BTF)
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I can't remember, but did I send you a link about a publishing house, Perfessor?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at March 12, 2023 08:37 AM (Angsy)
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Yes you did:
https://defiancepress.com/get-published/
As with anything on the web, use your own caution and judgement. Seems legit and moderately non-woke (maybe even right-leaning).
Posted by: OrangeEnt at March 12, 2023 08:37 AM (Angsy)
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Yes you did:
https://defiancepress.com/get-published/
As with anything on the web, use your own caution and judgement. Seems legit and moderately non-woke (maybe even right-leaning).
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 12, 2023 08:39 AM (BpYfr)
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If doublebooking is a thing, I am guilty of multibooking. In fact, I can't recall a time when I haven't had at least four books going at the same time.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 12, 2023 08:39 AM (ZdEDr)
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Yeah, you have to be in certain frames of mind when selecting your reading material.
I have the complete run of the DC Vertigo series Scalped, about wrongdoing on a South Dakota Indian reservation. It's utterly gripping, but I've never finished it because it is utterly bleak. Nobody is a good guy, even the undercover FBI agent sent by his louse of a superior to bring down the crooked tribal president / organized crime boss.
One of these days ...
And I've been saying that for more than 10 years.
I have the complete run of the DC Vertigo series Scalped, about wrongdoing on a South Dakota Indian reservation. It's utterly gripping, but I've never finished it because it is utterly bleak. Nobody is a good guy, even the undercover FBI agent sent by his louse of a superior to bring down the crooked tribal president / organized crime boss.
One of these days ...
And I've been saying that for more than 10 years.
Posted by: Weak Geek at March 12, 2023 08:39 AM (Om/di)
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Morning, all,
The leads of The Man From U.N.C.L.E., the originals I mean, Napoleon Solo and Illya Kuryakin, are not in public domain yet. So I've only written about them in MfU fan fiction. But I have worked in appearances by Dr. Richard Kimble in one story -- he's the "innocent" character that Solo and Illya recruit to help them -- and Bud Baxter and Fran Kubelik from The Apartment. That one is set about 4 years after the movie events; they are married and have a small daughter. Someone is trying to kill Bud, and Solo and Illya have to keep him and Fran alive.
In a Girl From U.N.C.L.E. story, too, I mention Rollin Hand of Mission: Impossible, and have appearances by Ellery Queen and his father the Inspector, and real-life people Truman Capote, Lee Radziwill, Cilla Black, and Horst Jankowski. In passing, all of it, not slowing the story down at all. But that was so much fun!
The leads of The Man From U.N.C.L.E., the originals I mean, Napoleon Solo and Illya Kuryakin, are not in public domain yet. So I've only written about them in MfU fan fiction. But I have worked in appearances by Dr. Richard Kimble in one story -- he's the "innocent" character that Solo and Illya recruit to help them -- and Bud Baxter and Fran Kubelik from The Apartment. That one is set about 4 years after the movie events; they are married and have a small daughter. Someone is trying to kill Bud, and Solo and Illya have to keep him and Fran alive.
In a Girl From U.N.C.L.E. story, too, I mention Rollin Hand of Mission: Impossible, and have appearances by Ellery Queen and his father the Inspector, and real-life people Truman Capote, Lee Radziwill, Cilla Black, and Horst Jankowski. In passing, all of it, not slowing the story down at all. But that was so much fun!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 12, 2023 08:40 AM (omVj0)
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Thank you for another edition carrying on in the highest traditions of OregonMuse. You have a lot of fun content.
Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at March 12, 2023 08:38 AM (u82oZ)
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Thank YOU for reading it!
Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at March 12, 2023 08:38 AM (u82oZ)
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Thank YOU for reading it!
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 12, 2023 08:40 AM (BpYfr)
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I tend not to be a fan of books that use/steal characters from other famous works of fiction.
Usually, it's to present a "different take" of said character which isn't true at all to the character or their time or some other thing. Sherlock Holmes changed his sex and became Gertrude Stein? Sure, why not?
Same with historical figures.
Sometimes it's a close thing. Like "The 7% Solution" by Nicholas Meyer(Star TreK!!!) that seemed to start the whole flood of crappy Sherlock Holmes novels.
Spoiler! The 7% Solution refers to the cocaine solution Holmes injected. In the novel, IIRC Holmes seeks out Sigmund Freud to help cure him of his addiction and essentially "end" Moriarty's reign of terror because Moriarty is just a cocaine-fueled delusion by Holmes.
Didn't particularly like "The 7% Solution" but it more or less stays in the bounds of Holmesania, so no harm no foul. Though it is a much lesser story than any of the originals and a character teardown.
A solid meh.
Most of the time though incorporating other people's character is a lazy, ill-formed and ill-fitted crutch.
YMMV.
Usually, it's to present a "different take" of said character which isn't true at all to the character or their time or some other thing. Sherlock Holmes changed his sex and became Gertrude Stein? Sure, why not?
Same with historical figures.
Sometimes it's a close thing. Like "The 7% Solution" by Nicholas Meyer(Star TreK!!!) that seemed to start the whole flood of crappy Sherlock Holmes novels.
Spoiler! The 7% Solution refers to the cocaine solution Holmes injected. In the novel, IIRC Holmes seeks out Sigmund Freud to help cure him of his addiction and essentially "end" Moriarty's reign of terror because Moriarty is just a cocaine-fueled delusion by Holmes.
Didn't particularly like "The 7% Solution" but it more or less stays in the bounds of Holmesania, so no harm no foul. Though it is a much lesser story than any of the originals and a character teardown.
A solid meh.
Most of the time though incorporating other people's character is a lazy, ill-formed and ill-fitted crutch.
YMMV.
Posted by: naturalfake at March 12, 2023 08:40 AM (L1tQx)
Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at March 12, 2023 08:41 AM (u82oZ)
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Our Lenten Book study is reading "The Cross" by Bob Sorge. It is probably one of the densest" books we have studied with a lot to think about.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 12, 2023 08:41 AM (N3BTF)
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>>>Not my cup of tea, but do they do the same for other genres?
>It was my understanding that at one time, the World Science Fiction Society was being directed like Cosa nostra. THose SF and Fantasy folks mean business. Best to give a wide berth.
>It was my understanding that at one time, the World Science Fiction Society was being directed like Cosa nostra. THose SF and Fantasy folks mean business. Best to give a wide berth.
Posted by: Dr. Bone at March 12, 2023 08:41 AM (Jg7EG)
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Starting some fluff called Bring me the Head of Prince Charming, by Roger Zelazny and Robert Sheckley. We shall see.
The other thing I am reading is IRS instructions on certain investments. Ugh!
The other thing I am reading is IRS instructions on certain investments. Ugh!
Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at March 12, 2023 08:42 AM (u82oZ)
Posted by: the swedish chef at March 12, 2023 08:42 AM (Vwz3I)
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The Atlantic: Shakespeare’s work was ‘central to the construction of whiteness’
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Sumbitch invented white people!
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Sumbitch invented white people!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 12, 2023 08:42 AM (FVME7)
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Yes you did:
https://defiancepress.com/get-published/
As with anything on the web, use your own caution and judgement. Seems legit and moderately non-woke (maybe even right-leaning).
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 12, 2023 08:39 AM (BpYfr)
Thanks. I swear, once you reach a certain age, you forget what you've done....
https://defiancepress.com/get-published/
As with anything on the web, use your own caution and judgement. Seems legit and moderately non-woke (maybe even right-leaning).
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 12, 2023 08:39 AM (BpYfr)
Thanks. I swear, once you reach a certain age, you forget what you've done....
Posted by: OrangeEnt at March 12, 2023 08:42 AM (Angsy)
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Good morning, Salty Dog!
Posted by: Ladyl at March 12, 2023 08:43 AM (+4oV5)
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Not my cup of tea, but do they do the same for other genres?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at March 12, 2023 08:29 AM (Angsy)
Baen has a contest for fantasy and a contest for scifi.
That's all they publish but they seem to be dipping their toe into horror.
It's tricky for them though because their brand is adventure stories with strong heroic characters.
They don't publish despairing stories afaik.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at March 12, 2023 08:29 AM (Angsy)
Baen has a contest for fantasy and a contest for scifi.
That's all they publish but they seem to be dipping their toe into horror.
It's tricky for them though because their brand is adventure stories with strong heroic characters.
They don't publish despairing stories afaik.
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at March 12, 2023 08:43 AM (fUnHJ)
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Being quoted in the content by the Perfessor is an unexpected honour.
I've been reading "The Bible: A Biography" by Karen Armstrong on Kindle, and am really appreciating the facility of highlighting a word and getting the definition (and often a Wikipedia or other reference) popping up.
I've been reading "The Bible: A Biography" by Karen Armstrong on Kindle, and am really appreciating the facility of highlighting a word and getting the definition (and often a Wikipedia or other reference) popping up.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 12, 2023 08:44 AM (a3Q+t)
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I have always wanted to see a story with the young, college-age Ellery Queen meeting with the young Henry Jones Jr. We know Ellery was a Harvard man. Could the future Indiana have been one too?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 12, 2023 08:44 AM (omVj0)
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When I travel in hostile, foreign lands like Detroit or Baltimore, I always try to blend in. I wear a local team jersey, wear a ball cap backasswards and use a lot of "Yos!" and "know what I'm sayin" expressions to feign the local dialect. I add some fake bling bling and go strapped so the locals know "now don't be messin"...
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 12, 2023 08:45 AM (R/m4+)
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52 Last week I finished reading "The Ink Black Heart" by J. K. Rowling. It was the latest book in her C. B. Strike detective series. Not bad, I enjoyed it enough to get through the series. I like Rowling's character development. This series is definitely not for children.
Posted by: lin-duh at March 12, 2023 08:35 AM (UUBmN)
One of the British networks made that series into a rather acceptable tv series. I think it's on HBO Max, but it's probably available elsewhere.
Posted by: lin-duh at March 12, 2023 08:35 AM (UUBmN)
One of the British networks made that series into a rather acceptable tv series. I think it's on HBO Max, but it's probably available elsewhere.
Posted by: Moki at March 12, 2023 08:45 AM (JrN/x)
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I tend not to be a fan of books that use/steal characters from other famous works of fiction.
Usually, it's to present a "different take" of said character which isn't true at all to the character or their time or some other thing. Sherlock Holmes changed his sex and became Gertrude Stein? Sure, why not?
Posted by: naturalfake at March 12, 2023 08:40 AM (L1tQx)
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When I did my "fix" to the Star Wars prequels (Man of Destiny Series), I obviously used characters with clear parallels. My test readers would say "Gosh, Justin Tolliver is obviously Obi-wan" or "Adam Flyte must be Anakin," but as the series progressed, they diverged significantly because I wanted to develop them as full personalities.
Thus, by book 2, the resemblance faded. I mean, they filled similar roles in the storyline, but they have very different motivations and therefore actions.
Of course, I added a ton of other cast members with zero equivalent because that's what the story required.
But generally, I agree with you. This is one reason why I never read the Timothy Zahn books, though I may now that my daughter has discovered them.
Usually, it's to present a "different take" of said character which isn't true at all to the character or their time or some other thing. Sherlock Holmes changed his sex and became Gertrude Stein? Sure, why not?
Posted by: naturalfake at March 12, 2023 08:40 AM (L1tQx)
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When I did my "fix" to the Star Wars prequels (Man of Destiny Series), I obviously used characters with clear parallels. My test readers would say "Gosh, Justin Tolliver is obviously Obi-wan" or "Adam Flyte must be Anakin," but as the series progressed, they diverged significantly because I wanted to develop them as full personalities.
Thus, by book 2, the resemblance faded. I mean, they filled similar roles in the storyline, but they have very different motivations and therefore actions.
Of course, I added a ton of other cast members with zero equivalent because that's what the story required.
But generally, I agree with you. This is one reason why I never read the Timothy Zahn books, though I may now that my daughter has discovered them.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 12, 2023 08:46 AM (llXky)
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The other thing I am reading is IRS instructions on certain investments. Ugh!
Posted by: NaCly Dog
I have from time to time invested in royalty stocks. The additional tax forms necessary were interesting, to say the least. At least most of the firms I invested in have sent me tax guides.
Posted by: NaCly Dog
I have from time to time invested in royalty stocks. The additional tax forms necessary were interesting, to say the least. At least most of the firms I invested in have sent me tax guides.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 12, 2023 08:46 AM (XZYTK)
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Read The Hazel Wood by Mlissa Albert on the rec of I think kallisto
Enjoyed it. A YA fantasy that has no romance! Has a Holly Black/Stephen King feel to it maybe
Enjoyed it. A YA fantasy that has no romance! Has a Holly Black/Stephen King feel to it maybe
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at March 12, 2023 08:47 AM (fUnHJ)
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I don't trust modern reference books, never online versions and rarely physical ones without checking them. In 2007, when a new edition of the Oxford Junior Dictionary ― widely used in schools around the world ― was published, a sharp-eyed reader soon noticed that around forty common words concerning nature had been dropped. Apparently they were no longer being used enough by children to merit their place in the dictionary. The list of these “lost words” included acorn, adder, bluebell, dandelion, fern, heron, kingfisher, newt, otter, and willow. Among the words taking their place were attachment, blog, broadband, bullet-point, cut-and-paste, and voice-mail. The news of these substitutions ― the outdoor and natural being displaced by the indoor and virtual ― became seen by many as a powerful sign of the growing gulf between childhood and the natural world.(I would add this is more about the arrogance and urban stupidity of the editors.)
Posted by: JTB at March 12, 2023 08:48 AM (7EjX1)
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Baen has a contest for fantasy and a contest for scifi.
That's all they publish but they seem to be dipping their toe into horror.
It's tricky for them though because their brand is adventure stories with strong heroic characters.
They don't publish despairing stories afaik.
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at March 12, 2023 08:43 AM (fUnHJ)
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They seem to be OK with urban action horror, as they publish Larry Correia's books...Lots of horrific elements, but the good guys generally win in the end (with a minor setup for the next installment).
That's all they publish but they seem to be dipping their toe into horror.
It's tricky for them though because their brand is adventure stories with strong heroic characters.
They don't publish despairing stories afaik.
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at March 12, 2023 08:43 AM (fUnHJ)
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They seem to be OK with urban action horror, as they publish Larry Correia's books...Lots of horrific elements, but the good guys generally win in the end (with a minor setup for the next installment).
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 12, 2023 08:48 AM (BpYfr)
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Most of the time though incorporating other people's character is a lazy, ill-formed and ill-fitted crutch.
YMMV.
Posted by: naturalfake at March 12, 2023
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It can be, if the borrowed character is the lead. If the character is a guest or a walk-on, perhaps not even named so that the reader has the fun of figuring it out, I don't find that lazy but an example of high spirits. An unnamed devil prince who insists on speaking German appears in Hell in Poul Anderson's Operation Chaos. In their magic-based world WWII was fought against a Caliphate, not against the Axis of our world, so the hero doesn't know who this guy is; but we do.
YMMV.
Posted by: naturalfake at March 12, 2023
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It can be, if the borrowed character is the lead. If the character is a guest or a walk-on, perhaps not even named so that the reader has the fun of figuring it out, I don't find that lazy but an example of high spirits. An unnamed devil prince who insists on speaking German appears in Hell in Poul Anderson's Operation Chaos. In their magic-based world WWII was fought against a Caliphate, not against the Axis of our world, so the hero doesn't know who this guy is; but we do.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 12, 2023 08:48 AM (omVj0)
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Nelson DeMille does not disappoint with his new one, "The Maze," starring Detective John Corey.
I love him! I have one of his books waiting in the wings. Love his John Corey novels.
I love him! I have one of his books waiting in the wings. Love his John Corey novels.
Posted by: jewells45 fuck cancer at March 12, 2023 08:48 AM (wagHN)
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It was the latest book in her C. B. Strike detective series. Not bad, I enjoyed it enough to get through the series. I like Rowling's character development.
I've been reading the first one while riding the stationary bike in the evenings. I'm about 3000 calories into it so far.
I've been reading the first one while riding the stationary bike in the evenings. I'm about 3000 calories into it so far.
Posted by: Oddbob at March 12, 2023 08:49 AM (nfrXX)
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>>>When I travel in hostile, foreign lands like Detroit or Baltimore, I always try to blend in. I wear a local team jersey, wear a ball cap backasswards and use a lot of "Yos!" and "know what I'm sayin" expressions to feign the local dialect. I add some fake bling bling and go strapped so the locals know "now don't be messin"...
Posted by: Hairyback Guy
>So you're a comedy writer? Somebody said Woke killed comedy.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy
>So you're a comedy writer? Somebody said Woke killed comedy.
Posted by: Dr. Bone at March 12, 2023 08:49 AM (Jg7EG)
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I thoroughly enjoyed Anno Dracula by Kim Newman.
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I loved that book and also his book Moriarty: The Hound of the D'Urbervilles which presents Professor Moriarty and his henchman Colonel Sebastion "Basher" Moran as they do evil across Britain and the Continent. Newman knows much Victorian trivia which he disguises in these novels such that only the reader with a fine eye will discern.
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I loved that book and also his book Moriarty: The Hound of the D'Urbervilles which presents Professor Moriarty and his henchman Colonel Sebastion "Basher" Moran as they do evil across Britain and the Continent. Newman knows much Victorian trivia which he disguises in these novels such that only the reader with a fine eye will discern.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 12, 2023 08:49 AM (FVME7)
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To expand on that a bit, sometimes a known character is really a placeholder - they don't DO anything.
That provides an author with tons of creative space. The Emperor in Star Wars just cackles and stands around. Maxim Darius *is* the Man of Destiny and so the books naturally center on him; his relationships, his past, his life and his ambitions.
I guess there's a film exploring Wrenfield. That can be fun. I remember an Buffy the Vampire Slayer episode where the main plot was put in the background and everything was from the POV of a minor character. Joss Whedon is a pervy creep, but he did write a few things well.
That provides an author with tons of creative space. The Emperor in Star Wars just cackles and stands around. Maxim Darius *is* the Man of Destiny and so the books naturally center on him; his relationships, his past, his life and his ambitions.
I guess there's a film exploring Wrenfield. That can be fun. I remember an Buffy the Vampire Slayer episode where the main plot was put in the background and everything was from the POV of a minor character. Joss Whedon is a pervy creep, but he did write a few things well.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 12, 2023 08:50 AM (llXky)
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The Pulp Magazine Archive sounds interesting. Haven't really read any old stories, but cover artwork seems to be more of an attraction for me than the works.
Lileks posted about that on Monday. Pulp SF, not the Archive.
https://tinyurl.com/2p986s2p
Might check it out to read a few from the earliest mags, see how they wrote in the 20s and 30s.
Lileks posted about that on Monday. Pulp SF, not the Archive.
https://tinyurl.com/2p986s2p
Might check it out to read a few from the earliest mags, see how they wrote in the 20s and 30s.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at March 12, 2023 08:50 AM (Angsy)
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@53 --
This is in reference to the Fourth Nail. Supposedly Christ was to have been killed with a fourth nail in the heart, but a gypsy stole it. The Roma say this act excuses their lawbreaking because they are in God's favor.
This is in reference to the Fourth Nail. Supposedly Christ was to have been killed with a fourth nail in the heart, but a gypsy stole it. The Roma say this act excuses their lawbreaking because they are in God's favor.
Posted by: Weak Geek at March 12, 2023 08:50 AM (Om/di)
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In connection with my comment in 84 about not trusting modern reference books. I have an OED we got ourselves as an anniversary present about 40 years ago. I still have the two volume dictionary that came with the family's World Book Encyclopedia circa 1960. My Roget's International Thesaurus is a nicely bound hardcover from 1931. It is still in great condition and still meets my needs. These new editors can get off my lawn.
Posted by: JTB at March 12, 2023 08:52 AM (7EjX1)
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When I travel in hostile, foreign lands like Detroit or Baltimore, I always try to blend in. I wear a local team jersey, wear a ball cap backasswards and use a lot of "Yos!" and "know what I'm sayin" expressions to feign the local dialect. I add some fake bling bling and go strapped so the locals know "now don't be messin"...
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 12, 2023 08:45 AM (R/m4+)
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The key to safe travel in Detroit is to never stop moving. Rolling stops if you have no other choice.
And have your gun within easy reach.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 12, 2023 08:45 AM (R/m4+)
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The key to safe travel in Detroit is to never stop moving. Rolling stops if you have no other choice.
And have your gun within easy reach.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 12, 2023 08:52 AM (llXky)
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If, too, you can fill out the borrowed character without ruining him, give the reader more information that fits the original author's work, and then set him a challenge or adventure that the creator might have written, then you've got something. Loren D. Estleman, the crime and Western writer, has written a number of stories about Sherlock Holmes and Dr. Watson that have received the approval of Doyle's estate. He does not mangle the characters but treats them with respect, and creates mysteries and adventures for them that Doyle might have enjoyed.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 12, 2023 08:53 AM (omVj0)
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{{{ Ladyl }}}
I trust he is behaving to your satisfaction? The collective We want your happiness to be long-lasting.
I trust he is behaving to your satisfaction? The collective We want your happiness to be long-lasting.
Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at March 12, 2023 08:53 AM (u82oZ)
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I certainly love to read historical fiction but assume we are talking about pure fiction borrowing. Not sure ever read anything like that as I read the former mostly.
But yet get a kick out of a movie that gives more like a hat tip using something from another movie.
But yet get a kick out of a movie that gives more like a hat tip using something from another movie.
Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2023 08:53 AM (xhxe8)
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You know, I could put that in a book, maybe a Vampires of Michigan sequel.
"As they passed Eight Mile, he loosened the pistol in its holster."
"As they passed Eight Mile, he loosened the pistol in its holster."
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 12, 2023 08:54 AM (llXky)
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This is in reference to the Fourth Nail. Supposedly Christ was to have been killed with a fourth nail in the heart, but a gypsy stole it. The Roma say this act excuses their lawbreaking because they are in God's favor.
Posted by: Weak Geek at March 12, 2023 08:50 AM (Om/di)
That must be from some extant scriptures the Council of Rome tossed!
This is in reference to the Fourth Nail. Supposedly Christ was to have been killed with a fourth nail in the heart, but a gypsy stole it. The Roma say this act excuses their lawbreaking because they are in God's favor.
Posted by: Weak Geek at March 12, 2023 08:50 AM (Om/di)
That must be from some extant scriptures the Council of Rome tossed!
Posted by: Moki at March 12, 2023 08:55 AM (JrN/x)
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This is book/story related.
We watched Sleeping Beauty (the ballet) yesterday.
In the last act they have dances from other Charles Perrault fairy tales : Puss in Boots, the Blue bird, Red Riding Hood.
I've actually never heard of the Blue Bird fairytale - had to look it up.
Doing that made me realize - it's quite wonderful how one traditional art form - ballet - was keeping another traditional story alive.
We watched Sleeping Beauty (the ballet) yesterday.
In the last act they have dances from other Charles Perrault fairy tales : Puss in Boots, the Blue bird, Red Riding Hood.
I've actually never heard of the Blue Bird fairytale - had to look it up.
Doing that made me realize - it's quite wonderful how one traditional art form - ballet - was keeping another traditional story alive.
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at March 12, 2023 08:55 AM (fUnHJ)
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And you buy ytyme in a bottle
Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2023 08:56 AM (xhxe8)
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I remember an Buffy the Vampire Slayer episode where the main plot was put in the background and everything was from the POV of a minor character. Joss Whedon is a pervy creep, but he did write a few things well.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 12, 2023
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I well recall that one. Xander, the stalwart male of the group, has his own adventure during a long night while Buffy and the others are battling something else -- much as DC once gave us stories about Jimmy Olsen having his own adventures without Superman.
The show also had one where a very minor recurring character, one of Buffy's classmates, works a magic spell so that *he* is the central character in Sunnydale. Buffy and her team all come to him for advice; he is impossibly talented, suave, knowledgeable, etc. A lot of fun.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 12, 2023
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I well recall that one. Xander, the stalwart male of the group, has his own adventure during a long night while Buffy and the others are battling something else -- much as DC once gave us stories about Jimmy Olsen having his own adventures without Superman.
The show also had one where a very minor recurring character, one of Buffy's classmates, works a magic spell so that *he* is the central character in Sunnydale. Buffy and her team all come to him for advice; he is impossibly talented, suave, knowledgeable, etc. A lot of fun.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 12, 2023 08:57 AM (omVj0)
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The other thing I am reading is IRS instructions on certain investments. Ugh!
Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at March 12, 2023 08:42 AM (u82oZ)
I guess there are some advantages to not having any significant assets.
Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at March 12, 2023 08:42 AM (u82oZ)
I guess there are some advantages to not having any significant assets.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at March 12, 2023 08:57 AM (OX9vb)
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I would like to see a story with the young Hercule Poirot, a Belgian patrol officer who gets involved in a mystery that results in his being promoted to detective.
Posted by: Weak Geek at March 12, 2023 08:58 AM (Om/di)
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I recently finished the book I wrote about briefly last Sunday "A Higher Call" by Adam Makos. This book may be of interest to WWII aviation enthusiasts.
It is the story of the B17 bomber "Ye Old Pub" which was engaged in a bombing run on Dec. 20 1944 over Hamburg. The plane and crew completed its mission, and was returning back to England when it was shot to pieces by a German fighter, resulting in the loss of the tail gunner. It famously landed despite loss of rudder and other control surfaces.
The real story is the post war reunion of the 2 captains who found each other in the 1960s and became fast friends. They toured the world and told their stories. A lengthy but great story.
It is the story of the B17 bomber "Ye Old Pub" which was engaged in a bombing run on Dec. 20 1944 over Hamburg. The plane and crew completed its mission, and was returning back to England when it was shot to pieces by a German fighter, resulting in the loss of the tail gunner. It famously landed despite loss of rudder and other control surfaces.
The real story is the post war reunion of the 2 captains who found each other in the 1960s and became fast friends. They toured the world and told their stories. A lengthy but great story.
Posted by: gourmand du jour, walking, not gonna bust any dance moves tho' at March 12, 2023 08:58 AM (jTmQV)
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{{{Moki}}}
Got to give the Roma credit for ingenuity. An excuse from God to misbehave.
You would think the Holocaust would temper their anti-social proclivities.
Got to give the Roma credit for ingenuity. An excuse from God to misbehave.
You would think the Holocaust would temper their anti-social proclivities.
Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at March 12, 2023 08:58 AM (u82oZ)
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They don't publish despairing stories afaik.
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at March 12, 2023 08:43 AM (fUnHJ)
Sorry, Harry. Guess that lets you out....
(working on another one)
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at March 12, 2023 08:43 AM (fUnHJ)
Sorry, Harry. Guess that lets you out....
(working on another one)
Posted by: OrangeEnt at March 12, 2023 08:58 AM (Angsy)
Posted by: JT at March 12, 2023 08:58 AM (T4tVD)
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I've been coming across references about the importance of imagination in understanding creation and how it provides much more than straight science. Tolkien's idea of 'subcreation' and similar from CS Lewis, Malcolm Guite, and others, emphasize that. While not just a Christian matter, the importance of poetry goes back to pagan times, imagination is the key to understanding.
Reading Act V of A Midsummer Night's Dream I remembered how Theseus regarded imagination.
"The poet's eye, in fine frenzy rolling,
Doth glance from heaven to earth, from earth to heaven.
And as imagination bodies forth
The forms of things unknown, the poet's pen
Turns them to shapes, and gives to airy nothing
A local habitation and a name.
Such tricks hath strong imagination,
That if it would but apprehend some joy,
It comprehends some bringer of that joy;"
I love the phrase "imagination bodies forth" and how he distinguishes between comprehend and apprehend.
Reading Act V of A Midsummer Night's Dream I remembered how Theseus regarded imagination.
"The poet's eye, in fine frenzy rolling,
Doth glance from heaven to earth, from earth to heaven.
And as imagination bodies forth
The forms of things unknown, the poet's pen
Turns them to shapes, and gives to airy nothing
A local habitation and a name.
Such tricks hath strong imagination,
That if it would but apprehend some joy,
It comprehends some bringer of that joy;"
I love the phrase "imagination bodies forth" and how he distinguishes between comprehend and apprehend.
Posted by: JTB at March 12, 2023 08:59 AM (7EjX1)
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And you buy ytyme in a bottle
Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2023 08:56 AM
What are we, desiccated liver?
Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2023 08:56 AM
What are we, desiccated liver?
Posted by: Parsley, Sage, Rosemary, and at March 12, 2023 09:00 AM (a3Q+t)
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Part of a balanced breakfast.
Posted by: Dr. Varno at March 12, 2023 09:00 AM (X+Ku8)
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 12, 2023 09:01 AM (llXky)
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JT -Typo
A Higher Calling is a good book
A Higher Calling is a good book
Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2023 09:01 AM (xhxe8)
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Currently reading "Stella Maris" by Cormac McCarthy. A weird novel told in interview format about a very special patient in an insane asylum.
Regarding "Hells Angels" it was in retrospect Hunter Thompson's greatest journalistic work. Everything that came later was an increasingly sad descent into self-parody.
Regarding "Hells Angels" it was in retrospect Hunter Thompson's greatest journalistic work. Everything that came later was an increasingly sad descent into self-parody.
Posted by: JBirks at March 12, 2023 09:01 AM (fmXKc)
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Have a great day, everyone.
If you write a story about a team of English Lit students that kidnap governmental regulators and torture them until they write clear prose and can diagram sentences, I will buy it. Make the torture scenario satisfying, please.
If you write a story about a team of English Lit students that kidnap governmental regulators and torture them until they write clear prose and can diagram sentences, I will buy it. Make the torture scenario satisfying, please.
Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at March 12, 2023 09:02 AM (u82oZ)
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This is in reference to the Fourth Nail. Supposedly Christ was to have been killed with a fourth nail in the heart, but a gypsy stole it. The Roma say this act excuses their lawbreaking because they are in God's favor.
Posted by: Weak Geek at March 12, 2023 08:50 AM
The stuff you learn here. It's a legend and has two versions. One self serving that God absolves the Romani from the 7th Commandment (thou shalt not steal) by not delivering the fourth nail.
This is in reference to the Fourth Nail. Supposedly Christ was to have been killed with a fourth nail in the heart, but a gypsy stole it. The Roma say this act excuses their lawbreaking because they are in God's favor.
Posted by: Weak Geek at March 12, 2023 08:50 AM
The stuff you learn here. It's a legend and has two versions. One self serving that God absolves the Romani from the 7th Commandment (thou shalt not steal) by not delivering the fourth nail.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at March 12, 2023 09:02 AM (enJYY)
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. . . the poet's pen
Turns them to shapes, and gives to airy nothing
A local habitation and a name. . ."
I love the phrase "imagination bodies forth" and how he distinguishes between comprehend and apprehend.
Posted by: JTB at March 12, 2023
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That's exactly it: Imagination creates shapes in your mind, but then you name them and give them a home and a world. Holmes does not live "somewhere in London"; he has a specific address. Doyle knew what he was about.
Turns them to shapes, and gives to airy nothing
A local habitation and a name. . ."
I love the phrase "imagination bodies forth" and how he distinguishes between comprehend and apprehend.
Posted by: JTB at March 12, 2023
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That's exactly it: Imagination creates shapes in your mind, but then you name them and give them a home and a world. Holmes does not live "somewhere in London"; he has a specific address. Doyle knew what he was about.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 12, 2023 09:03 AM (omVj0)
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Hey Wolfus, how does fan fiction allow use of characters not in the public domain? Does the copyright holder allow it in certain circumstances, or is it just considered non published?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at March 12, 2023 09:03 AM (Angsy)
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I've been coming across references about the importance of imagination in understanding creation and how it provides much more than straight science.
Posted by: JTB at March 12, 2023 08:59 AM (7EjX1)
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This is a hugely important element of understanding a society. A people that has lost its way, sees no future, is doomed, not matter what high-tech gadgets they possess.
This is the essence of my book on China - looking at their religion, the stories they tell about themselves, and how they assign social status.
BTW, the same is true of our military. The warriors are leaving, and it's basically a large HR dept. handing out coloring books and feeling empowered.
Posted by: JTB at March 12, 2023 08:59 AM (7EjX1)
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This is a hugely important element of understanding a society. A people that has lost its way, sees no future, is doomed, not matter what high-tech gadgets they possess.
This is the essence of my book on China - looking at their religion, the stories they tell about themselves, and how they assign social status.
BTW, the same is true of our military. The warriors are leaving, and it's basically a large HR dept. handing out coloring books and feeling empowered.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 12, 2023 09:04 AM (llXky)
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Jewels
I've got some money that's burning a hole in my pocket.
I've tried getting to your Etsy page but I keeping getting redirected.
Assistance plz?
I've got some money that's burning a hole in my pocket.
I've tried getting to your Etsy page but I keeping getting redirected.
Assistance plz?
Posted by: Kentucky kid at March 12, 2023 09:06 AM (FGqFE)
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The comics series Planetary was full of homages or insults to famous characters and genres while telling a story with original characters.
My highest recommendation -- I bought the individual issues (what a wait that turned out to be!) and later purchased the complete collection in hardback.
My highest recommendation -- I bought the individual issues (what a wait that turned out to be!) and later purchased the complete collection in hardback.
Posted by: Weak Geek at March 12, 2023 09:07 AM (Om/di)
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I am often guilty of double booking. I don't read very fast but I read a lot. I also suffer from short attention span, so reading two or three books at once is pretty common.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, in Nebraska. at March 12, 2023 09:09 AM (2jWnA)
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Hey Wolfus, how does fan fiction allow use of characters not in the public domain? Does the copyright holder allow it in certain circumstances, or is it just considered non published?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at March 12, 2023
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As far as I know, if you don't receive money for it, it's still considered fan fiction. Most creators don't mind FF; Norman Felton and Sam Rolfe, the creators of U.N.C.L.E., enjoyed fan input. They considered it good publicity and affectionate homages to the characters and show. I'm not sure what J.K. Rowling thinks of Harry Potter FF. I know Anne McCaffrey, the "Dragonriders of Pern" author, did not like FF at all and, I think, threatened fan writers who produced stuff based on her work.
A couple of U.N.C.L.E. fans produced original paperback novels less than 10 years ago that were for sale on Amazon. They even followed the format of the Ace pro paperbacks of the Sixties. No idea how much money if any they earned from it, or if they got into any trouble with the holder of the original copyright.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at March 12, 2023
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As far as I know, if you don't receive money for it, it's still considered fan fiction. Most creators don't mind FF; Norman Felton and Sam Rolfe, the creators of U.N.C.L.E., enjoyed fan input. They considered it good publicity and affectionate homages to the characters and show. I'm not sure what J.K. Rowling thinks of Harry Potter FF. I know Anne McCaffrey, the "Dragonriders of Pern" author, did not like FF at all and, I think, threatened fan writers who produced stuff based on her work.
A couple of U.N.C.L.E. fans produced original paperback novels less than 10 years ago that were for sale on Amazon. They even followed the format of the Ace pro paperbacks of the Sixties. No idea how much money if any they earned from it, or if they got into any trouble with the holder of the original copyright.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 12, 2023 09:09 AM (omVj0)
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Jewels
I've got some money that's burning a hole in my pocket.
I've tried getting to your Etsy page but I keeping getting redirected.
Assistance plz?
Posted by: Kentucky kid at March 12, 2023 09:06 AM
I have a question, too. Do you make your own jewelry? If so could you make something custom for me?
Jewels
I've got some money that's burning a hole in my pocket.
I've tried getting to your Etsy page but I keeping getting redirected.
Assistance plz?
Posted by: Kentucky kid at March 12, 2023 09:06 AM
I have a question, too. Do you make your own jewelry? If so could you make something custom for me?
Posted by: Divide by Zero at March 12, 2023 09:09 AM (enJYY)
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Hey Wolfus, how does fan fiction allow use of characters not in the public domain? Does the copyright holder allow it in certain circumstances, or is it just considered non published?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at March 12, 2023 09:03 AM (Angsy)
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I think you only run into problems if you try to commercialize your story or the author strenuously objects to your fan fiction. I know there have been instances of fan fiction being scoured from the internet because the author objected to the way characters were depicted (usually weird sex stuff).
Posted by: OrangeEnt at March 12, 2023 09:03 AM (Angsy)
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I think you only run into problems if you try to commercialize your story or the author strenuously objects to your fan fiction. I know there have been instances of fan fiction being scoured from the internet because the author objected to the way characters were depicted (usually weird sex stuff).
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 12, 2023 09:09 AM (BpYfr)
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NaCly!!!!
How are you??
The excuses we make to justify ourselves must amuse the Almighty no end! Well, until He gets fed up!
I hope you are enjoying a lovely weekend!
How are you??
The excuses we make to justify ourselves must amuse the Almighty no end! Well, until He gets fed up!
I hope you are enjoying a lovely weekend!
Posted by: Moki at March 12, 2023 09:11 AM (JrN/x)
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Hiya JT!!!
Posted by: Moki at March 12, 2023 09:11 AM (JrN/x)
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Read moron recommended Rex Stout: The Doorbell Rang, The Red Box and Curtains #2. Very enjoyable.
Posted by: 13times at March 12, 2023 09:12 AM (su443)
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As to public domain characters, I was thinking more of making an appearance in your own story, either as a quick adventure with your protagonist involved with the famous one, or just a quick scene involving them. I'd have no plans to write a story using someone else's character.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at March 12, 2023 09:13 AM (Angsy)
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According to the recent "ABC Murders", with John Malkovic, Poirot is found out to not have been a policeman.
He was an RC Priest.
He was an RC Priest.
Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at March 12, 2023 09:13 AM (TXFi7)
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97 {{{ Ladyl }}}
I trust he is behaving to your satisfaction? The collective We want your happiness to be long-lasting.
Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at March 12, 2023 08:53 AM (u82oZ)
So far. Mostly.
I trust he is behaving to your satisfaction? The collective We want your happiness to be long-lasting.
Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at March 12, 2023 08:53 AM (u82oZ)
So far. Mostly.
Posted by: Ladyl at March 12, 2023 09:13 AM (+4oV5)
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Humble Bundle is running a sale on Elfquest comics. Growing up, I was vaguely aware of Elfquest, mostly as some sort of hardcare/exotic nerd property that I never had access to. As opposed to the normal nerd property like Star Trek, which was certainly nerdy, but was readily available on tv and in book shops. I'm not sure if I'll enjoy it, but it is a fantasy comic, and being on Humble Bundle, the price is right....Even if it is digital...
Posted by: Castle Guy at March 12, 2023 09:13 AM (Lhaco)
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Kentucky kid. The etsy page is prettys4youbyJulieatetsydotcom. One of the morons tried to set it up so you could click on my nic and it would go to the shop. I know it was redirecting but eventually it got you there.
Divide by Zero, yes I make all my own stuff. Would be delighted to make something for you if it's within my capabilities.
Divide by Zero, yes I make all my own stuff. Would be delighted to make something for you if it's within my capabilities.
Posted by: jewells45 fuck cancer at March 12, 2023 09:14 AM (wagHN)
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> One volume of pulp fiction probably contains enough "problematic content" to give a sensitivity reader a fatal stroke.
The covers alone would cause the typical sensitivity reader to stroke out.
https://is.gd/uYAp5U
Note that many of these feature stories by Seabury Quinn, mentioned above.
The covers alone would cause the typical sensitivity reader to stroke out.
https://is.gd/uYAp5U
Note that many of these feature stories by Seabury Quinn, mentioned above.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at March 12, 2023 09:14 AM (bW8dp)
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I was wondering if a word like octuplebooking might be a bit much, but multibooking will cover it all. Thank ya kindly, Thomas Paine.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at March 12, 2023 09:14 AM (a/4+U)
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If you write a story about a team of English Lit students that kidnap governmental regulators and torture them until they write clear prose and can diagram sentences, I will buy it. Make the torture scenario satisfying, please.
Posted by: NaCly Dog
Reeducation camp of the Grammar Nazis
Posted by: NaCly Dog
Reeducation camp of the Grammar Nazis
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at March 12, 2023 09:15 AM (fUnHJ)
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This is the essence of my book on China - looking at their religion, the stories they tell about themselves, and how they assign social status.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 12, 2023 09:04 AM (llXky)
My book on china would be an easy read.
Page 1- Its shit
page 2- The end
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 12, 2023 09:04 AM (llXky)
My book on china would be an easy read.
Page 1- Its shit
page 2- The end
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 12, 2023 09:15 AM (VwHCD)
Posted by: Sandra Fluke at March 12, 2023 09:15 AM (bW8dp)
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With all of the woke and cancellation going on, I would recommend picking up a copy of Empire by Niall Ferguson. Empire is the story of the rise and fall of the British empire, and the colonies they set up. Were it to be published today, it would certainly be attacked, as it documents that British colonialism benefited those lands where it was installed. True colonialism was about installing the infrastructure and rules of the home country on the colony, so that those colonized were given the tools to grow and the rule of law, something that was lacking in every colonized land. If one looks at the former British colonies after independence, every one is well ahead of its neighbors, excepting those that have been taken over by marxists after separation. The book is an enjoyable read, and well documented, and full of the facts that so annoy those that disparage the British empire.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 12, 2023 09:15 AM (cPQrn)
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Yeah I see where it's not taking you to the shop anymore. Dammit. If Pixy would just unban me that would be nice.
Posted by: jewells45 fuck cancer at March 12, 2023 09:15 AM (wagHN)
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Divide by Zero, yes I make all my own stuff. Would be delighted to make something for you if it's within my capabilities.
Posted by: jewells45 fuck cancer at March 12, 2023 09:14 AM
Great! I'll chat with you some morning about what I have in mind.
Divide by Zero, yes I make all my own stuff. Would be delighted to make something for you if it's within my capabilities.
Posted by: jewells45 fuck cancer at March 12, 2023 09:14 AM
Great! I'll chat with you some morning about what I have in mind.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at March 12, 2023 09:16 AM (enJYY)
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Ahh,
Guardians of the Flame brings back some great childhood memories. The 1st several books led by Karl Cullinaine are some of the best juvenile fantasy that I look back upon fondly.
Hope they are worth it as an adult.
Guardians of the Flame brings back some great childhood memories. The 1st several books led by Karl Cullinaine are some of the best juvenile fantasy that I look back upon fondly.
Hope they are worth it as an adult.
Posted by: NJRob at March 12, 2023 09:16 AM (Ce7wD)
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Also, involving fan fiction, there has been FF about U.N.C.L.E. and Star Trek for decades. I'd suppose that any series, TV or books, has had some FF written based on it. Most of it is terrible, of course; Mary Sues abound, or the writers make the lead characters gay (that was where the term "slash" fiction came from, the shorthand "Kirk/Spock" for a gay pairing of the two). (A gay Solo and Illya or Kirk and Spock is not something I EVER want to read about.) Or the writer warps the story to focus it all on his favorite character.
I write my MfU fan fiction in the style of the show -- plausible adventures with humor -- though with details and procedures we never saw that would be necessary for a global law enforcement agency to operate effectively. In one tale, for instance, I borrowed the "no uncoded messages on an open channel" concept from Wrath of Khan to apply to Solo and Illya's communications with their headquarters.
I write my MfU fan fiction in the style of the show -- plausible adventures with humor -- though with details and procedures we never saw that would be necessary for a global law enforcement agency to operate effectively. In one tale, for instance, I borrowed the "no uncoded messages on an open channel" concept from Wrath of Khan to apply to Solo and Illya's communications with their headquarters.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 12, 2023 09:16 AM (omVj0)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 12, 2023 09:16 AM (FVME7)
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Mrs Mahon is involved in a Jane Austen book forum, and has read manuscripts of a lot of Pride and Prejudice fan fic books. Some she likes,others are dreadful.
It's kind of her version of AoS. She has fun chatting with her fellow fans. And she has a huge crush on Colin Firth.
It's kind of her version of AoS. She has fun chatting with her fellow fans. And she has a huge crush on Colin Firth.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, in Nebraska. at March 12, 2023 09:16 AM (2jWnA)
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Thanks Jewels.
Jewels makes really nice things. I've bought a few things for a special lady that put a smile on her face.
Recommend highly.
Jewels makes really nice things. I've bought a few things for a special lady that put a smile on her face.
Recommend highly.
Posted by: Kentucky kid at March 12, 2023 09:18 AM (FGqFE)
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Roger Zelazny put the comics character GrimJack (under a different name) into one of his Amber books, and GJ's co-creator John Ostrander went wild with joy, especially after he received a fan letter from Zelazny.
Well do I remember that letter column.
Well do I remember that letter column.
Posted by: Weak Geek at March 12, 2023 09:19 AM (Om/di)
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Thank you Kentucky kid
Posted by: jewells45 fuck cancer at March 12, 2023 09:20 AM (wagHN)
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The covers alone would cause the typical sensitivity reader to stroke out.
https://is.gd/uYAp5U
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I don't know anyrhing about art but I know what I like.
https://is.gd/uYAp5U
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I don't know anyrhing about art but I know what I like.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 12, 2023 09:20 AM (FVME7)
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Read moron recommended Rex Stout: The Doorbell Rang, The Red Box and Curtains #2. Very enjoyable.
Posted by: 13times at March 12, 2023
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Re: The Doorbell Rang, Stout was way ahead of the curve in distrusting the FBI. Hoover had a file on him going back quite a ways -- though Stout was never a Commie or a socialist as far as I know. Probably just what Hoover considered to be a "troublemaker," i.e., an American citizen who knew his rights and asked inconvenient questions.
I also recommend the novels Murder by the Book, Might As Well Be Dead, and the novelettes "The Gun With Wings," "Die Like a Dog," and "Disguise for Murder."
Posted by: 13times at March 12, 2023
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Re: The Doorbell Rang, Stout was way ahead of the curve in distrusting the FBI. Hoover had a file on him going back quite a ways -- though Stout was never a Commie or a socialist as far as I know. Probably just what Hoover considered to be a "troublemaker," i.e., an American citizen who knew his rights and asked inconvenient questions.
I also recommend the novels Murder by the Book, Might As Well Be Dead, and the novelettes "The Gun With Wings," "Die Like a Dog," and "Disguise for Murder."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 12, 2023 09:20 AM (omVj0)
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Jewells what's the etsy store name?
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at March 12, 2023 09:20 AM (fUnHJ)
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I read the sci-fi short story of the Morons. Very much enjoyed. Thank you.
My teens were spent reading Asimov's stuff, mostly the shorter stuff, but did read the first three Foundation books, too. I most enjoyed the compilation books he churned out. This story reminded me very much of that. Probably because it WAS one of those. Heh.
My teens were spent reading Asimov's stuff, mostly the shorter stuff, but did read the first three Foundation books, too. I most enjoyed the compilation books he churned out. This story reminded me very much of that. Probably because it WAS one of those. Heh.
Posted by: Appycay at March 12, 2023 09:21 AM (EdYR/)
Posted by: jewells45 fuck cancer at March 12, 2023 09:21 AM (wagHN)
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Sure thing
Posted by: Kentucky kid at March 12, 2023 09:21 AM (FGqFE)
Posted by: Weak Geek at March 12, 2023 09:21 AM (Om/di)
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Undermining Western Civilization-leslie stein
Page marked this from an article, short, but insightful though didn't get the book yet.
I rarely have more books than can read, read all my books, and don't get more miniatures until last batch is painted.
Page marked this from an article, short, but insightful though didn't get the book yet.
I rarely have more books than can read, read all my books, and don't get more miniatures until last batch is painted.
Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2023 09:21 AM (xhxe8)
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vmom the store is Prettys4youbyJulie. Should be able to google it. Hopefully.
Posted by: jewells45 fuck cancer at March 12, 2023 09:21 AM (wagHN)
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The etsy page is prettys4youbyJulieatetsydotcom. One of the morons tried to set it up so you could click on my nic and it would go to the shop. I know it was redirecting but eventually it got you there.
No need to redirect through bitly. Put this in the URL field and post. Then click on the nic to test it. Be sure to include the https:// part.
https://www.etsy.com/shop/Prettys4youbyJulie
No need to redirect through bitly. Put this in the URL field and post. Then click on the nic to test it. Be sure to include the https:// part.
https://www.etsy.com/shop/Prettys4youbyJulie
Posted by: Oddbob at March 12, 2023 09:22 AM (nfrXX)
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Last week I read "Giants Of The Earth: A Saga of the Prairie" by O. E. Rölvaag. It's a gripping tale of a group of Norwegian immigrants in the lat 1800's, who set out in wagons to make a new life in the Dakota Territories. I loved how the Scandinavians faced the forces of nature, and their own forces of personality, to carve out a meager life on the prairie. In fact, in some ways it reminded me very much of the first books in the Little House series. Being Scandi myself, I found myself in awe of their perseverance in the light of all hardship. Would recommend.
Posted by: grammie winger at March 12, 2023 09:22 AM (45fpk)
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FIRST!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 12, 2023 09:22 AM (Zz0t1)
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I usually have several books going at a time. Short attention span I suppose.
The word I learned from Pliny this week is "prosedamum". On the EMT, Vmom said it translates as "in pace".
Pliny says it is a condition in "stallions from Sarmatiab when they are too fatigued in copulation because of prolonged labour". I guess that has something to do with pacing after all.
The word I learned from Pliny this week is "prosedamum". On the EMT, Vmom said it translates as "in pace".
Pliny says it is a condition in "stallions from Sarmatiab when they are too fatigued in copulation because of prolonged labour". I guess that has something to do with pacing after all.
Posted by: fd at March 12, 2023 09:22 AM (iayUP)
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I always thought using Lewis and Clark and the Corps of Discovery as prairie inspectors and crew acting as botanists and archeologists etc. in a children's natural world reader would be pretty cool.
public domain characters
Dersu Uzala would serve the same purpose but in southern Siberia.
archive.org/details/with-dersu-the-hunter
public domain characters
Dersu Uzala would serve the same purpose but in southern Siberia.
archive.org/details/with-dersu-the-hunter
Posted by: 13times at March 12, 2023 09:23 AM (su443)
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Fauci told Jm J Acosta that he has no idea why people want him prosecuted for anything and such disinformation has caused he and his family to receive death threats.
Poor bastard.
Poor bastard.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 12, 2023 09:23 AM (Zz0t1)
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They opened a 1/2 Priced Book store near me in the recently closed Galaxy Golf space. It's like the Dollar Store for books. Practically giving the books away. I bought 10 art related books for under $60.
On a specific note, one of the books was on Thomas Kinkade and quality full page photos of basically his entire portfolio. I previously was only familiar with his lighted cottage paintings and thought that was all he did. Turns out his work other than that unfortunate saturated subject now makes him one of my top three favorite American artists. I also found out mostly why the Leftist art community hated him so much. He was a born again Christian.
On a specific note, one of the books was on Thomas Kinkade and quality full page photos of basically his entire portfolio. I previously was only familiar with his lighted cottage paintings and thought that was all he did. Turns out his work other than that unfortunate saturated subject now makes him one of my top three favorite American artists. I also found out mostly why the Leftist art community hated him so much. He was a born again Christian.
Posted by: polynikes at March 12, 2023 09:24 AM (PlEV5)
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Oh, I forgot about Pixy blocking links to "commercial" sites. Ignore what I wrote above then.
Posted by: Oddbob at March 12, 2023 09:24 AM (nfrXX)
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Hiya Moki !
Posted by: JT at March 12, 2023 09:24 AM (T4tVD)
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As far as I know, if you don't receive money for it, it's still considered fan fiction.
I guess that makes me a fan fiction writer....
I guess that makes me a fan fiction writer....
Posted by: OrangeEnt at March 12, 2023 09:25 AM (Angsy)
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Thank you for another edition carrying on in the highest traditions of OregonMuse. You have a lot of fun content.
Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at March 12, 2023 08:38 AM (u82oZ)
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Seconded !
Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at March 12, 2023 08:38 AM (u82oZ)
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Seconded !
Posted by: JT at March 12, 2023 09:26 AM (T4tVD)
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Someone in college had a printed version of one of those K/S stories that had "artwork." My eyes had the misfortune of perceiving it for less than a second. It haunts me to this day, especially on those rare occasions I watch a TOS rerun. I wish brain bleach was a real thing.
Posted by: PabloD at March 12, 2023 09:26 AM (6WtFJ)
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On the EMT, Vmom said it translates as "in pace".
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It means proceed I think
Common phrase "proceed in peace"
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It means proceed I think
Common phrase "proceed in peace"
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at March 12, 2023 09:26 AM (fUnHJ)
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Been a while since I read it, but IIRC, Roger Zelazny used Holmes, as well as Wolf Man Lawrence Talbot, in A NIGHT IN THE LONESOME OCTOBER. Written from the pov of Jack the Ripper's dog.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at March 12, 2023 09:26 AM (a/4+U)
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You know the expression get woke, go broke? Well . . .
https://bit.ly/3JdIZ11
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See also
Less than 1 month ago Forbes put Silicon Valley Bank on its annual list of "America's Best Banks" and its inaugural list of "Financial All-Stars"
https://bit.ly/3ZRQLEu
https://bit.ly/3JdIZ11
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See also
Less than 1 month ago Forbes put Silicon Valley Bank on its annual list of "America's Best Banks" and its inaugural list of "Financial All-Stars"
https://bit.ly/3ZRQLEu
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 12, 2023 09:27 AM (FVME7)
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158 vmom the store is Prettys4youbyJulie. Should be able to google it. Hopefully.
Posted by: jewells45 fuck cancer
I faved it thanks
Posted by: jewells45 fuck cancer
I faved it thanks
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at March 12, 2023 09:27 AM (fUnHJ)
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I'll have to check out this Baen fantasy story contest.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 12, 2023 09:29 AM (omVj0)
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I think I'd follow Hunter Thompson with some Tom Wolfe. Maybe Electric Kool Aid Acid Test?
Posted by: Notsothoreau at March 12, 2023 09:29 AM (6lj/r)
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A Higher Calling is a good book
Posted by: Skip
The one where the midget gets a stepladder to get to a pay phone ?
Posted by: Skip
The one where the midget gets a stepladder to get to a pay phone ?
Posted by: JT at March 12, 2023 09:29 AM (T4tVD)
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My book on china would be an easy read.
Page 1- Its shit
page 2- The end
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 12, 2023 09:15 AM (VwHCD)
For me Page 2 would be Kung Fu and then page 3 The End.
Page 1- Its shit
page 2- The end
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 12, 2023 09:15 AM (VwHCD)
For me Page 2 would be Kung Fu and then page 3 The End.
Posted by: polynikes at March 12, 2023 09:29 AM (PlEV5)
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This week I finished Hunter S. Thompson's book on the Hell's Angels.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 12, 2023 08:13 AM (llXky)
I read it in ....'74? Wasn't there a movie...Jack Nicholson?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 12, 2023 08:13 AM (llXky)
I read it in ....'74? Wasn't there a movie...Jack Nicholson?
Posted by: BignJames at March 12, 2023 09:30 AM (AwYPR)
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Oddbob, thanks anyway. I guess that's why I am constantly banned, because it's a "commercial site"? well, that's the fucking pits.
Posted by: jewells45 fuck cancer at March 12, 2023 09:30 AM (wagHN)
Posted by: JT at March 12, 2023 09:31 AM (T4tVD)
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Jewels - Shouldn't the Esty store URL in your field start with "https://" ???
Jewels - Shouldn't the Esty store URL in your field start with "https://" ???
Posted by: Divide by Zero at March 12, 2023 09:31 AM (enJYY)
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I just set up my art website. Needs some additional editing but the base is at least done.
Stuppleart.com
Stuppleart.com
Posted by: polynikes at March 12, 2023 09:32 AM (PlEV5)
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The Baen contest guidelines of the sort of stuff they want:
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"What We Want to See
Adventure fantasy with heroes you want to root for. Warriors either modern or medieval, who solve problems with their wits or with their weapons—and we have nothing against dragons, elves, dwarves, castles under siege, urban fantasy, damsels in distress, or damsels who inflict distress.
What We Don’t Want to See
Political drama with no action, angst-ridden teens pining over vampire lovers, religious allegory, novel segments, your gaming adventure transcript, anything set in any universe not your own, 'it was all a dream' endings, or screenplays."
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Well, I guess I might have something for them. I certainly don't do the latter stuff. And my heroes do tend to solve their problems with their wits.
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"What We Want to See
Adventure fantasy with heroes you want to root for. Warriors either modern or medieval, who solve problems with their wits or with their weapons—and we have nothing against dragons, elves, dwarves, castles under siege, urban fantasy, damsels in distress, or damsels who inflict distress.
What We Don’t Want to See
Political drama with no action, angst-ridden teens pining over vampire lovers, religious allegory, novel segments, your gaming adventure transcript, anything set in any universe not your own, 'it was all a dream' endings, or screenplays."
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Well, I guess I might have something for them. I certainly don't do the latter stuff. And my heroes do tend to solve their problems with their wits.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 12, 2023 09:33 AM (omVj0)
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They opened a 1/2 Priced Book store near me in the recently closed Galaxy Golf space. It's like the Dollar Store for books. Practically giving the books away. I bought 10 art related books for under $60.
Posted by: polynikes
I believe my family is personally responsible for the financial success for Half Price Books.
Although it brings up a good point. Good quality books in good condition can be had for remarkably low prices these days. Buy your books now, before they are banned.
Posted by: polynikes
I believe my family is personally responsible for the financial success for Half Price Books.
Although it brings up a good point. Good quality books in good condition can be had for remarkably low prices these days. Buy your books now, before they are banned.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 12, 2023 09:33 AM (cPQrn)
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In rural areas of China, restaurant bathrooms are a small room with a hole in the floor and if you're lucky, a roll of toilet paper near by.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 12, 2023 09:33 AM (Zz0t1)
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Perfessor, have you ever read any Charles Fort? The talk of "atmospheric rivers" got me thinking of him so I went back to re-reading "New Lands", where he documents things like fish falling from the sky. Fort was a proto-Art Bell, a skeptic under it all I think, and a hilarious critic of "scientists". He has some really good quotes:
"There is not a physicist in the world who can perceive when a parlor magician palms off playing-cards."
"Peasants have believed in dowsing, and scientists used to believe that dowsing was only a belief of peasants. Now there are so many scientists who believe in dowsing that the suspicion comes to me that it may only be a myth after all."
"There is not a physicist in the world who can perceive when a parlor magician palms off playing-cards."
"Peasants have believed in dowsing, and scientists used to believe that dowsing was only a belief of peasants. Now there are so many scientists who believe in dowsing that the suspicion comes to me that it may only be a myth after all."
Posted by: fd at March 12, 2023 09:34 AM (iayUP)
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This week I finished Hunter S. Thompson's book on the Hell's Angels.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 12, 2023
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I read it in ....'74? Wasn't there a movie...Jack Nicholson?
Posted by: BignJames at March 12, 2023
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Bill Murray played Thompson in Where the Buffalo Roam.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 12, 2023
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I read it in ....'74? Wasn't there a movie...Jack Nicholson?
Posted by: BignJames at March 12, 2023
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Bill Murray played Thompson in Where the Buffalo Roam.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 12, 2023 09:34 AM (omVj0)
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That's a fine book, Grammie. There's a whole genre of books about the Scandinavian immigrants. I picked up a couple last year but haven't had time to read yet.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at March 12, 2023 09:34 AM (6lj/r)
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This week I finished Hunter S. Thompson's book on the Hell's Angels.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 12, 2023 08:13 AM (llXky)
"Why are we fighting?!?"
- - - Mick Jagger
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 12, 2023 08:13 AM (llXky)
"Why are we fighting?!?"
- - - Mick Jagger
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 12, 2023 09:34 AM (Zz0t1)
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Perfessor, have you ever read any Charles Fort? The talk of "atmospheric rivers" got me thinking of him so I went back to re-reading "New Lands", where he documents things like fish falling from the sky. Fort was a proto-Art Bell, a skeptic under it all I think, and a hilarious critic of "scientists".
Posted by: fd at March 12, 2023 09:34 AM (iayUP)
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His name rings a bell, though I cannot recall any of his works.
Posted by: fd at March 12, 2023 09:34 AM (iayUP)
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His name rings a bell, though I cannot recall any of his works.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 12, 2023 09:35 AM (BpYfr)
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Bill Murray played Thompson in Where the Buffalo Roam.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 12, 2023 09:34 AM (omVj0)
Brian Dennehy played the groundhog.
Bill Murray played Thompson in Where the Buffalo Roam.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 12, 2023 09:34 AM (omVj0)
Brian Dennehy played the groundhog.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 12, 2023 09:35 AM (Zz0t1)
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Been a while since I read it, but IIRC, Roger Zelazny used Holmes, as well as Wolf Man Lawrence Talbot, in A NIGHT IN THE LONESOME OCTOBER. Written from the pov of Jack the Ripper's dog.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at March 12, 2023
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Talbot is the protagonist, though he isn't named, in "Adrift Just Off the Isles of Langerhans" by Harlan Ellison.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at March 12, 2023
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Talbot is the protagonist, though he isn't named, in "Adrift Just Off the Isles of Langerhans" by Harlan Ellison.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 12, 2023 09:35 AM (omVj0)
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His name rings a bell, though I cannot recall any of his works.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 12, 2023 09:35 AM (BpYfr)
Must not've been any good then.
His name rings a bell, though I cannot recall any of his works.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 12, 2023 09:35 AM (BpYfr)
Must not've been any good then.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 12, 2023 09:36 AM (Zz0t1)
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I am currently reading "Memoir of Hungary 1944-1948" by Sandor Marai.
It concerns the time after WWII up until the full communist takeover.
The book starts with an anecdote of a family drinking party just as the National Socialists were all running for the exits in Hungary. (It seems they were aware that if they didn't drink up all the wine, the approaching Russians would)
One guest turns the subject to whether they should be supporting the German alliance.
Sandor Marai posits that no one needs the German alliance. A guest, a bit drunk at this point shouts, "I am a National Socialist! YOU can't understand this because you are talented. But I'm not, and that is why I need National Socialism! YOU can't possibly understand... Now it's about us! The untalented! Our time has come!"
With this prophecy, the National Socialists move out, and the International Socialists move in, and the time of the untalented begins. (Sound familiar?)
This forms the main theme of the memoir, of untalented people rising to great power, and talented people selling their souls to gain power/fame, up until the author can no longer live in Hungary and flees to America.
It is EXCELLENT.
It concerns the time after WWII up until the full communist takeover.
The book starts with an anecdote of a family drinking party just as the National Socialists were all running for the exits in Hungary. (It seems they were aware that if they didn't drink up all the wine, the approaching Russians would)
One guest turns the subject to whether they should be supporting the German alliance.
Sandor Marai posits that no one needs the German alliance. A guest, a bit drunk at this point shouts, "I am a National Socialist! YOU can't understand this because you are talented. But I'm not, and that is why I need National Socialism! YOU can't possibly understand... Now it's about us! The untalented! Our time has come!"
With this prophecy, the National Socialists move out, and the International Socialists move in, and the time of the untalented begins. (Sound familiar?)
This forms the main theme of the memoir, of untalented people rising to great power, and talented people selling their souls to gain power/fame, up until the author can no longer live in Hungary and flees to America.
It is EXCELLENT.
Posted by: Taft at March 12, 2023 09:36 AM (6Aj7n)
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It's the end of the world as we know it
And I feel fine
Greta Thunberg Deletes Tweet From 2018 Predicting End of World in Five Years
And I feel fine
Greta Thunberg Deletes Tweet From 2018 Predicting End of World in Five Years
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 12, 2023 09:37 AM (FVME7)
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Once in a while I get in the mood for a genre or series. It might be as silly as the MASH Goes to ... books or Pat McManus essays or reading several Nero Wolfe stories in a row. It could be anything. I feel a Nero Wolfe episode approaching.
As a corollary, there are certain books I like to reread at certain times. "Travels With Charlie" in the autumn. "Hound of the Baskervilles" on an especially stormy night like the first time I read it in grade school. Or LOTR in late fall and early winter.
Don't know if this is common or if I'm just weird. (It could be both.)
As a corollary, there are certain books I like to reread at certain times. "Travels With Charlie" in the autumn. "Hound of the Baskervilles" on an especially stormy night like the first time I read it in grade school. Or LOTR in late fall and early winter.
Don't know if this is common or if I'm just weird. (It could be both.)
Posted by: JTB at March 12, 2023 09:37 AM (7EjX1)
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Jewells, a lot of crafters put up a blog* for this reason.
Post some pics, maybe updates or how-tos or whatnot. Then in the blog point to the etsy shop.
Also might help build customer base.
*or a youtube channel if they like makings videos
Post some pics, maybe updates or how-tos or whatnot. Then in the blog point to the etsy shop.
Also might help build customer base.
*or a youtube channel if they like makings videos
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at March 12, 2023 09:37 AM (fUnHJ)
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And now I can't help but see it everywhere I look. Untalented people NEED socialism.
Posted by: Taft at March 12, 2023 09:38 AM (6Aj7n)
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"In rural areas of China, restaurant bathrooms are a small room with a hole in the floor and if you're lucky, a roll of toilet paper near by."
I visited China in 1983. What you describe is accurate. My rural toilet was exactly that, but had an additional feature. The toilet drained into a pigpen which contained a sow that weighed several hundred pounds. But, the hole was deluxe. It had footprints painted on either side.
I visited China in 1983. What you describe is accurate. My rural toilet was exactly that, but had an additional feature. The toilet drained into a pigpen which contained a sow that weighed several hundred pounds. But, the hole was deluxe. It had footprints painted on either side.
Posted by: gourmand du jour, walking, not gonna bust any dance moves tho' at March 12, 2023 09:38 AM (jTmQV)
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Posted by: grammie winger at March 12, 2023 09:22 AM (45fpk)
I'm a fellow Scandi . At least a 1/4 anyway. My grandfather came here from Sweden. Didn't work the plains but did head up the gardens for various millionaire's homes on Long Island.
I'm a fellow Scandi . At least a 1/4 anyway. My grandfather came here from Sweden. Didn't work the plains but did head up the gardens for various millionaire's homes on Long Island.
Posted by: polynikes at March 12, 2023 09:38 AM (PlEV5)
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"It means proceed I think
Common phrase "proceed in peace"
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion"
I wonder how that fits with Pliny's description then? I should mention that many things in "Natural History" are mixed up or just plain wrong. I should probably learn some Latin to better understand some of these words.
Common phrase "proceed in peace"
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion"
I wonder how that fits with Pliny's description then? I should mention that many things in "Natural History" are mixed up or just plain wrong. I should probably learn some Latin to better understand some of these words.
Posted by: fd at March 12, 2023 09:39 AM (iayUP)
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It had footprints painted on either side.
Posted by: gourmand du jour,
Squatting to poop is a skill best learned when young
Posted by: gourmand du jour,
Squatting to poop is a skill best learned when young
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at March 12, 2023 09:39 AM (fUnHJ)
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In rural areas of China, restaurant bathrooms are a small room with a hole in the floor and if you're lucky, a roll of toilet paper near by.
Posted by: Sponge
I was once on a train in western China, running across the Taklimakan. Try using a hole in the floor on a moving train...
Posted by: Sponge
I was once on a train in western China, running across the Taklimakan. Try using a hole in the floor on a moving train...
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 12, 2023 09:40 AM (cPQrn)
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Well, I guess I might have something for them. I certainly don't do the latter stuff. And my heroes do tend to solve their problems with their wits.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 12, 2023 09:33 AM (omVj0)
Why not? I've liked the stuff I've read, even though it's not my cup of tea.
What can they say, but no?
(sob)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 12, 2023 09:33 AM (omVj0)
Why not? I've liked the stuff I've read, even though it's not my cup of tea.
What can they say, but no?
(sob)
Posted by: OrangeEnt at March 12, 2023 09:40 AM (Angsy)
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I'm a fellow Scandi . At least a 1/4 anyway. My grandfather came here from Sweden. Didn't work the plains but did head up the gardens for various millionaire's homes on Long Island.
Posted by: polynikes at March 12, 2023 09:38 AM (PlEV5)
The church I attended when I lived on Long Island was 90 percent Norwegian / Swedish. Maybe I met some of your people!
Posted by: polynikes at March 12, 2023 09:38 AM (PlEV5)
The church I attended when I lived on Long Island was 90 percent Norwegian / Swedish. Maybe I met some of your people!
Posted by: grammie winger at March 12, 2023 09:40 AM (45fpk)
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Squatting to poop is a skill best learned when young
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at March 12, 2023 09:39 AM (fUnHJ)
Or, if you're sufficiently motivated...
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at March 12, 2023 09:39 AM (fUnHJ)
Or, if you're sufficiently motivated...
Posted by: Amber Heard at March 12, 2023 09:41 AM (PiwSw)
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I think India beats China in being disgusting with bits of beauty Inbetween.
Posted by: polynikes at March 12, 2023 09:41 AM (PlEV5)
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183 ... "I just set up my art website. Needs some additional editing but the base is at least done.
Stuppleart.com
polynikes,
Congrats! That is a wonderful compilation of your paintings. And I am officially envious.
Stuppleart.com
polynikes,
Congrats! That is a wonderful compilation of your paintings. And I am officially envious.
Posted by: JTB at March 12, 2023 09:41 AM (7EjX1)
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at March 12, 2023 09:41 AM (fUnHJ)
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Perfessor, have you ever read any Charles Fort? The talk of "atmospheric rivers" got me thinking of him so I went back to re-reading "New Lands", where he documents things like fish falling from the sky. Fort was a proto-Art Bell, a skeptic under it all I think, and a hilarious critic of "scientists".
Posted by: fd at March 12, 2023 09:34 AM (iayUP)
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His name rings a bell, though I cannot recall any of his works.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 12, 2023 09:35 AM (BpYfr)
The idea is better than the execution. His writing is tedious, which I suppose it has to be, given the topics.
Posted by: fd at March 12, 2023 09:34 AM (iayUP)
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His name rings a bell, though I cannot recall any of his works.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 12, 2023 09:35 AM (BpYfr)
The idea is better than the execution. His writing is tedious, which I suppose it has to be, given the topics.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 12, 2023 09:42 AM (M2qSa)
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"His name rings a bell, though I cannot recall any of his works.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel"
It's where we get the word "Fortean". His books are on Gutenberg.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel"
It's where we get the word "Fortean". His books are on Gutenberg.
Posted by: fd at March 12, 2023 09:42 AM (iayUP)
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It's the end of the world as we know it
And I feel fine
Greta Thunberg Deletes Tweet From 2018 Predicting End of World in Five Years
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 12, 2023 09:37 AM (FVME7)
Al-gore said we were supposed to be dead and gone by now too.
The climate alarmists are a resounding Ohfer on everything, yet they're millionaires and are still preaching their bullshit on the global stage.
And I feel fine
Greta Thunberg Deletes Tweet From 2018 Predicting End of World in Five Years
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 12, 2023 09:37 AM (FVME7)
Al-gore said we were supposed to be dead and gone by now too.
The climate alarmists are a resounding Ohfer on everything, yet they're millionaires and are still preaching their bullshit on the global stage.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 12, 2023 09:42 AM (Zz0t1)
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Why not? I've liked the stuff I've read, even though it's not my cup of tea.
What can they say, but no?
(sob)
Posted by: OrangeEnt at March 12, 2023
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Thank you, sir. Since Baen's word limit is generous at 8K words, one of mine in particular might work.
What can they say, but no?
(sob)
Posted by: OrangeEnt at March 12, 2023
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Thank you, sir. Since Baen's word limit is generous at 8K words, one of mine in particular might work.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 12, 2023 09:43 AM (omVj0)
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Speaking of public domain, years ago I wrote a bunch of short stories. I still have them, but I don't think any of them are worthy of public consumption.
The worst (best?) used Yoko Ono as a character, who happens to be into a certain type of sex act, which gets her into a sticky predicament.
I'll say no more.
The worst (best?) used Yoko Ono as a character, who happens to be into a certain type of sex act, which gets her into a sticky predicament.
I'll say no more.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 12, 2023 09:43 AM (M2qSa)
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Regarding public domain characters I read The Haunting of H. G. Wells by Robert Masello. It was a fun read and I will be checking out more of his books.
Also read Saturn Run by John Sandford. It mixed mystery with science, which I wasn't expecting from a Sandford novel, but was very interesting.
Also read Saturn Run by John Sandford. It mixed mystery with science, which I wasn't expecting from a Sandford novel, but was very interesting.
Posted by: Ilene Wright at March 12, 2023 09:43 AM (VD8D9)
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Thanks vmom! Great idea!
Posted by: jewells45 fuck cancer at March 12, 2023 09:44 AM (wagHN)
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I think India beats China in being disgusting with bits of beauty Inbetween.
Posted by: polynikes
We used to call rotations in India the Indian diet, as everyone lost 3-4 pounds per week when in country.
Posted by: polynikes
We used to call rotations in India the Indian diet, as everyone lost 3-4 pounds per week when in country.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 12, 2023 09:44 AM (cY5UN)
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The church I attended when I lived on Long Island was 90 percent Norwegian / Swedish. Maybe I met some of your people!
Posted by: grammie winger at March 12, 2023 09:40 AM (45fpk)
They did attend the Lutheran church but even though you're a grammie I think you are too young to have met any. 😀
Posted by: grammie winger at March 12, 2023 09:40 AM (45fpk)
They did attend the Lutheran church but even though you're a grammie I think you are too young to have met any. 😀
Posted by: polynikes at March 12, 2023 09:45 AM (PlEV5)
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I started reading fear and loathing up until someone driving across a lonely stretch of the Mojave desert opened the car trunk and it was full of illicit and very trendy 60-70s drugs.
Posted by: 13times at March 12, 2023 09:45 AM (su443)
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199 And now I can't help but see it everywhere I look. Untalented people NEED socialism.
Posted by: Taft at March 12, 2023 09:38 AM (6Aj7n)
That is kind of an epiphany. Putting that book in the wish list.
Posted by: Taft at March 12, 2023 09:38 AM (6Aj7n)
That is kind of an epiphany. Putting that book in the wish list.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at March 12, 2023 09:45 AM (OX9vb)
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I'm a fellow Scandi . At least a 1/4 anyway. My grandfather came here from Sweden. Didn't work the plains but did head up the gardens for various millionaire's homes on Long Island.
Posted by: polynikes at March 12, 2023 09:38 AM (PlEV5)
The church I attended when I lived on Long Island was 90 percent Norwegian / Swedish. Maybe I met some of your people!
Posted by: grammie winger at March 12, 2023
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We used to have a branch of the Norwegian Seamen's Church here in town. A beautiful building that seemed typically Scandinavian, good people, a gift-and-goods store in the back, and special occasion services. I attended a St. Lucia ceremony one year, and a Christmas Eve service too.
It's gone now. Not enough Scandinavians or people of their complexion around here, I guess.
Posted by: polynikes at March 12, 2023 09:38 AM (PlEV5)
The church I attended when I lived on Long Island was 90 percent Norwegian / Swedish. Maybe I met some of your people!
Posted by: grammie winger at March 12, 2023
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We used to have a branch of the Norwegian Seamen's Church here in town. A beautiful building that seemed typically Scandinavian, good people, a gift-and-goods store in the back, and special occasion services. I attended a St. Lucia ceremony one year, and a Christmas Eve service too.
It's gone now. Not enough Scandinavians or people of their complexion around here, I guess.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 12, 2023 09:46 AM (omVj0)
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I'm currently a third of the way through Sherlock Holmes and the Giant Rat of Sumatra.
Seems to be holding up well as a Holmesian mystery. The author (Alan Vanneman) has a good grasp of Doyle's writing style and understands the characters (more or less).
So far, there have been three murders. One that kicked off the story before it even began, one that occurred in London that drove our heroes to travel to far-off Singapore and one that just now occurred in Alexandria. All of them mysterious, of course.
Seems to be holding up well as a Holmesian mystery. The author (Alan Vanneman) has a good grasp of Doyle's writing style and understands the characters (more or less).
So far, there have been three murders. One that kicked off the story before it even began, one that occurred in London that drove our heroes to travel to far-off Singapore and one that just now occurred in Alexandria. All of them mysterious, of course.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 12, 2023 09:47 AM (BpYfr)
Posted by: polynikes at March 12, 2023 09:47 AM (PlEV5)
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"His writing is tedious, which I suppose it has to be, given the topics.
Posted by: BurtTC "
It is. There is a lot of documenting weird phenomenon with dates and names and facts and such, but among all that there are some real zingers showing how skepticism is done. He proposes some far out stuff, way before any Sci-fi authors wrote about it, but I don't think he believed any of it.
Posted by: BurtTC "
It is. There is a lot of documenting weird phenomenon with dates and names and facts and such, but among all that there are some real zingers showing how skepticism is done. He proposes some far out stuff, way before any Sci-fi authors wrote about it, but I don't think he believed any of it.
Posted by: fd at March 12, 2023 09:47 AM (iayUP)
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It's the end of the world as we know it
And I feel fine
Greta Thunberg Deletes Tweet From 2018 Predicting End of World in Five Years
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 12, 2023 09:37 AM (FVME7)
Greta looks almost entirely these days like a young adult who was emotionally abused growing up, forced to participate in some activity by her parents, against her will.
So how does she emerge from it? Most likely by rebelling 180 degrees away from the parents. She'll be drag racing through the native habitat of endangered specie in a few years. Or flying for Sweden's equivalent of an air force.
And I feel fine
Greta Thunberg Deletes Tweet From 2018 Predicting End of World in Five Years
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 12, 2023 09:37 AM (FVME7)
Greta looks almost entirely these days like a young adult who was emotionally abused growing up, forced to participate in some activity by her parents, against her will.
So how does she emerge from it? Most likely by rebelling 180 degrees away from the parents. She'll be drag racing through the native habitat of endangered specie in a few years. Or flying for Sweden's equivalent of an air force.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 12, 2023 09:48 AM (M2qSa)
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So how does she emerge from it? Most likely by rebelling 180 degrees away from the parents. She'll be drag racing through the native habitat of endangered specie in a few years. Or flying for Sweden's equivalent of an air force.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 12, 2023 09:48 AM (M2qSa)
My favorite Greta moment was when she was in the same room as Trump and she was awestruck and had this look on her face of wonder and amazement, then remembered she was supposed to hate him and put the scowl back on her face.
So how does she emerge from it? Most likely by rebelling 180 degrees away from the parents. She'll be drag racing through the native habitat of endangered specie in a few years. Or flying for Sweden's equivalent of an air force.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 12, 2023 09:48 AM (M2qSa)
My favorite Greta moment was when she was in the same room as Trump and she was awestruck and had this look on her face of wonder and amazement, then remembered she was supposed to hate him and put the scowl back on her face.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 12, 2023 09:50 AM (Zz0t1)
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Newsweek had us already 10 years into an Ice Age .
Posted by: polynikes at March 12, 2023 09:51 AM (PlEV5)
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Polynikes that's wonderful! Your paintings are lovely.
Posted by: jewells45 fuck cancer at March 12, 2023 09:51 AM (wagHN)
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I guess that's why I am constantly banned, because it's a "commercial site"?
That's my assumption but for all I really know, Pixy has it in for you personally. But I doubt it. The last time I tried, MP4's link to his Amazon author page worked so it could be on a site-by-site or even page-by-page basis.
That's my assumption but for all I really know, Pixy has it in for you personally. But I doubt it. The last time I tried, MP4's link to his Amazon author page worked so it could be on a site-by-site or even page-by-page basis.
Posted by: Oddbob at March 12, 2023 09:51 AM (nfrXX)
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It is. There is a lot of documenting weird phenomenon with dates and names and facts and such, but among all that there are some real zingers showing how skepticism is done. He proposes some far out stuff, way before any Sci-fi authors wrote about it, but I don't think he believed any of it.
Posted by: fd at March 12, 2023 09:47 AM (iayUP)
In that sense, he is basically proto-Art Bell. I don't think Art believed any of his crep either. He'd have somebody on his show, droning on and on about abductions or chupacabras or whatever, and Art would be saying "Wow, that sounds unbelievable!"
Yes. Yes it does.
Posted by: fd at March 12, 2023 09:47 AM (iayUP)
In that sense, he is basically proto-Art Bell. I don't think Art believed any of his crep either. He'd have somebody on his show, droning on and on about abductions or chupacabras or whatever, and Art would be saying "Wow, that sounds unbelievable!"
Yes. Yes it does.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 12, 2023 09:51 AM (M2qSa)
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I think India beats China in being disgusting with bits of beauty Inbetween.
Posted by: polynikes at March 12, 2023 09:41 AM (PlEV5)
Concur. There was a docudrama about a seaside city in India where there were not enough toilets. So the locals would all use the beach as the shitter at low tide, letting the high tide sweep away the night soil. Hundreds of folks just squatting in the low tide surf. The fishing around those parts was off the chain.
Posted by: polynikes at March 12, 2023 09:41 AM (PlEV5)
Concur. There was a docudrama about a seaside city in India where there were not enough toilets. So the locals would all use the beach as the shitter at low tide, letting the high tide sweep away the night soil. Hundreds of folks just squatting in the low tide surf. The fishing around those parts was off the chain.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 12, 2023 09:52 AM (R/m4+)
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Fort's writing style can be hard to read, and it may take a couple of passes over a sentence to get to the gist of it. It reminds me of our own sven.
"I have gone into the outer darkness of scientific and philosophical transactions and proceedings, ultra-respectable, but covered with the dust of disregard. I have descended into journalism. I have come back with the quasi-souls of lost data."
"I have gone into the outer darkness of scientific and philosophical transactions and proceedings, ultra-respectable, but covered with the dust of disregard. I have descended into journalism. I have come back with the quasi-souls of lost data."
Posted by: fd at March 12, 2023 09:52 AM (iayUP)
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So how does she emerge from it? Most likely by rebelling 180 degrees away from the parents. She'll be drag racing through the native habitat of endangered specie in a few years. Or flying for Sweden's equivalent of an air force.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 12, 2023 09:48 AM (M2qSa)
My favorite Greta moment was when she was in the same room as Trump and she was awestruck and had this look on her face of wonder and amazement, then remembered she was supposed to hate him and put the scowl back on her face.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 12, 2023 09:50 AM (Zz0t1)
Just please, Greta, for all this is good and holy, do NOT go into pron. Please and thank you.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 12, 2023 09:48 AM (M2qSa)
My favorite Greta moment was when she was in the same room as Trump and she was awestruck and had this look on her face of wonder and amazement, then remembered she was supposed to hate him and put the scowl back on her face.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 12, 2023 09:50 AM (Zz0t1)
Just please, Greta, for all this is good and holy, do NOT go into pron. Please and thank you.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 12, 2023 09:53 AM (M2qSa)
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I watched all the Jesse Stone movies and really liked them but had never read a book by Robert Parker. Hrothgar recently gave me one, High Profile. It was a quick read and done in one night. It really felt like watching one of the movies. The book is mostly quick dialog between the characters exactly the way the movie runs. Began to wonder if the movie dialog was taken straight from the books.
The dialog is very clever but I thought the way he ended what is a murder mystery was a little too pat. The book was entertaining but I'm thinking I'll try Parker's Spenser series next.
The dialog is very clever but I thought the way he ended what is a murder mystery was a little too pat. The book was entertaining but I'm thinking I'll try Parker's Spenser series next.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 12, 2023 09:54 AM (Y+l9t)
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Polynikes that's wonderful! Your paintings are lovely.
Posted by: jewells45 fuck cancer at March 12, 2023 09:51 AM (wagHN)
Thanks . Setting up your own website in addition to Etsy might be a good option for you. The Squarespace site I used is only 250 a year for a retail set up. I just used a personal set up which was 192.
Posted by: jewells45 fuck cancer at March 12, 2023 09:51 AM (wagHN)
Thanks . Setting up your own website in addition to Etsy might be a good option for you. The Squarespace site I used is only 250 a year for a retail set up. I just used a personal set up which was 192.
Posted by: polynikes at March 12, 2023 09:55 AM (PlEV5)
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Just read a synopsis of A Study in Emerald by Gaiman. Gotta go find it and read it now. Looks like a fun story.
Posted by: Sharkman at March 12, 2023 09:56 AM (S7TWn)
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I watched the Poe flick on Netflix -- The Pale Blue Eye. It was pretty good, nice period details, nice cinematography (it was winter and you felt cold just watching it). The plot was a little . . . weird. It almost felt as if two writers were yanking the word processor away from each other as they developed the script.
Posted by: Trimegistus at March 12, 2023 09:56 AM (QZxDR)
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Haven't read Fort since high school (Ace Books reissued a bunch of his stuff, I think). Fun then, but don't think I'd care to revisit. If memory serves, Eric Frank Russell's SINISTER BARRIER spun off a throwaway notion from Fort -- that we're property of creatures unseen.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at March 12, 2023 09:56 AM (a/4+U)
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Other times, Fort can be rather direct:
" I don't know what the mind of an astronomers looks like, but I think of a fizzle with excuses revolving around it."
" I don't know what the mind of an astronomers looks like, but I think of a fizzle with excuses revolving around it."
Posted by: fd at March 12, 2023 09:56 AM (iayUP)
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Art Bell was pure entertainment. I had the pleasure of meeting him after he sold the show. He had remarried and was a new dad. I told him I was a fan. I asked him if he believed any of the topics on his show and he admitted, very few.
He was amazed that I recognized his face, but his voice was unmistakable.
He was amazed that I recognized his face, but his voice was unmistakable.
Posted by: gourmand du jour, walking, not gonna bust any dance moves tho' at March 12, 2023 09:57 AM (jTmQV)
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"that we're property of creatures unseen.
Posted by: Just Some Guy"
He once said that we are being fished for.
Posted by: Just Some Guy"
He once said that we are being fished for.
Posted by: fd at March 12, 2023 09:58 AM (iayUP)
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Just please, Greta, for all this is good and holy, do NOT go into pron. Please and thank you.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 12, 2023 09:53 AM (M2qSa)
For the environment.
Just please, Greta, for all this is good and holy, do NOT go into pron. Please and thank you.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 12, 2023 09:53 AM (M2qSa)
For the environment.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 12, 2023 09:58 AM (Zz0t1)
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I almost fergot; due to the upcoming Holiday, I'll give the pants guy a pass on his weedwhacker status.
Posted by: JT at March 12, 2023 09:59 AM (T4tVD)
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That's my assumption but for all I really know, Pixy has it in for you personally. But I doubt it. The last time I tried, MP4's link to his Amazon author page worked so it could be on a site-by-site or even page-by-page basis.
Posted by: Oddbob at March 12, 2023 09:51 AM (nfrXX)
I know my script blocker has a HUGE problem with Etsy and anything associated with it. I can't get to Jewell's page unless I disable everything.
That's my assumption but for all I really know, Pixy has it in for you personally. But I doubt it. The last time I tried, MP4's link to his Amazon author page worked so it could be on a site-by-site or even page-by-page basis.
Posted by: Oddbob at March 12, 2023 09:51 AM (nfrXX)
I know my script blocker has a HUGE problem with Etsy and anything associated with it. I can't get to Jewell's page unless I disable everything.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 12, 2023 10:00 AM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: JT at March 12, 2023 10:00 AM (T4tVD)
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Just took my first sip of coffee. Ah, nectar from the gods.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 12, 2023 10:00 AM (Y+l9t)
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Charles Fort is mind-blowing the first time you read his stuff. I'm a hard-core materialist and his books give me the creeps the way no horror fiction ever has.
BUT . . . on re-reading you start to notice that under the affable, world-weary skeptic about everything facade, there's a petulant crank struggling to get out. From the little snippets of autobiography that slip through, one gets the sense that Charlie F. had Issues with authority figures, and of course in the early 20th century SCIENCE! was becoming the new ultimate authority.
What do I mean? Check his sources some time: he quotes European and American papers and journals about weird shit happening in Asia, but then quotes Indian and Australian papers about oddities in Europe! Almost as if he's cherry-picking.
He's still fun and very influential.
BUT . . . on re-reading you start to notice that under the affable, world-weary skeptic about everything facade, there's a petulant crank struggling to get out. From the little snippets of autobiography that slip through, one gets the sense that Charlie F. had Issues with authority figures, and of course in the early 20th century SCIENCE! was becoming the new ultimate authority.
What do I mean? Check his sources some time: he quotes European and American papers and journals about weird shit happening in Asia, but then quotes Indian and Australian papers about oddities in Europe! Almost as if he's cherry-picking.
He's still fun and very influential.
Posted by: Trimegistus at March 12, 2023 10:00 AM (QZxDR)
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The worst (best?) used Yoko Ono as a character, who happens to be into a certain type of sex act, which gets her into a sticky predicament.
I'll say no more.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 12, 2023 09:43 AM (M2qSa)
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Send it to mh for Yoko Month on the ONT
I'll say no more.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 12, 2023 09:43 AM (M2qSa)
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Send it to mh for Yoko Month on the ONT
Posted by: San Franpsycho at March 12, 2023 10:01 AM (EZebt)
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218 I think India beats China in being disgusting with bits of beauty Inbetween.
Posted by: polynikes
We used to call rotations in India the Indian diet, as everyone lost 3-4 pounds per week when in country.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 12, 2023 09:44 AM (cY5UN)
Two words: bat soup
Posted by: polynikes
We used to call rotations in India the Indian diet, as everyone lost 3-4 pounds per week when in country.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 12, 2023 09:44 AM (cY5UN)
Two words: bat soup
Posted by: CN at March 12, 2023 10:01 AM (Zzbjj)
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Two words: bat soup
Posted by: CN at March 12, 2023 10:01 AM (Zzbjj)
Wet Markets actually removed any desire I might've had to visit anything anywhere near China.
Two words: bat soup
Posted by: CN at March 12, 2023 10:01 AM (Zzbjj)
Wet Markets actually removed any desire I might've had to visit anything anywhere near China.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 12, 2023 10:02 AM (Zz0t1)
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So I guess the new tactic of the woke is to stamp their feet and huff, "that's not what woke is, you don't know what woke is."
They think it a clever trap because they expect you to ask them to define woke. Which they will wrap in Christmas paper lies of all these innocuous, nice, kind things. And you want to be the monster against being nice to people?
They think it a clever trap because they expect you to ask them to define woke. Which they will wrap in Christmas paper lies of all these innocuous, nice, kind things. And you want to be the monster against being nice to people?
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at March 12, 2023 10:03 AM (lsaG7)
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247 Just took my first sip of coffee. Ah, nectar from the gods.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 12, 2023 10:00 AM (Y+l9t)
*concur
I have just finished off the the carafe, so time to make the dog food. Sigh. It snowed, and it's dreary, and I'd really just like to sit here with more coffee and some apple pie and read all day.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 12, 2023 10:00 AM (Y+l9t)
*concur
I have just finished off the the carafe, so time to make the dog food. Sigh. It snowed, and it's dreary, and I'd really just like to sit here with more coffee and some apple pie and read all day.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at March 12, 2023 10:03 AM (OX9vb)
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I finished the second half of Burton's journey to Harar. He tried a second trip and got jumped, wound up with a spear through his face which took out some teeth but didn't slow him down at all. The volume also includes summaries of Speke and another dude's wanderings in the region, and they had a lot more trouble than Burton because they had to rely on native translators, who were crooks through and through.
There is one appendix missing: Burton included his notes (and I'm sure personal observations) about the practice of infibulation, but his publisher deleted it and apparently his wife burned the manuscript when he died.
Richard B. was always interested in exploring between women's legs.
There is one appendix missing: Burton included his notes (and I'm sure personal observations) about the practice of infibulation, but his publisher deleted it and apparently his wife burned the manuscript when he died.
Richard B. was always interested in exploring between women's legs.
Posted by: Trimegistus at March 12, 2023 10:04 AM (QZxDR)
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Wet Markets actually removed any desire I might've had to visit anything anywhere near China.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 12, 2023 10:02 AM (Zz0t1)
My husband and academic colleagues did a 4 wk junket in China and came home lighter as it had "the worst Chinese food we ever had" Peking duck was, in their estimation, Peking parakeet.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 12, 2023 10:02 AM (Zz0t1)
My husband and academic colleagues did a 4 wk junket in China and came home lighter as it had "the worst Chinese food we ever had" Peking duck was, in their estimation, Peking parakeet.
Posted by: CN at March 12, 2023 10:04 AM (Zzbjj)
Posted by: JT at March 12, 2023 10:06 AM (T4tVD)
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What do I mean? Check his sources some time: he quotes European and American papers and journals about weird shit happening in Asia, but then quotes Indian and Australian papers about oddities in Europe! Almost as if he's cherry-picking.
He's still fun and very influential.
Posted by: Trimegistus at March 12, 2023 10:00 AM (QZxDR)
Yeah, I might have enjoyed it more, if I'd read him when I was younger, but as an adult, as he's talking about things being written up in distant newspapers, all I can think of is that the horoscopes in those papers were likely more reality based than the stories.
He's still fun and very influential.
Posted by: Trimegistus at March 12, 2023 10:00 AM (QZxDR)
Yeah, I might have enjoyed it more, if I'd read him when I was younger, but as an adult, as he's talking about things being written up in distant newspapers, all I can think of is that the horoscopes in those papers were likely more reality based than the stories.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 12, 2023 10:06 AM (M2qSa)
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247 Just took my first sip of coffee. Ah, nectar from the gods.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 12, 2023 10:00 AM (Y+l9t)
Yes! Nothing like that first sip. Coffee can't be beat, even if it's the cheap stuff I buy with a splash of whipping cream
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 12, 2023 10:00 AM (Y+l9t)
Yes! Nothing like that first sip. Coffee can't be beat, even if it's the cheap stuff I buy with a splash of whipping cream
Posted by: CN at March 12, 2023 10:07 AM (Zzbjj)
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Richard B. was always interested in exploring between women's legs.
Posted by: Trimegistus at March 12, 2023 10:04 AM (QZxDR)
Nothing wrong with that. My hero!
Richard B. was always interested in exploring between women's legs.
Posted by: Trimegistus at March 12, 2023 10:04 AM (QZxDR)
Nothing wrong with that. My hero!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 12, 2023 10:07 AM (Zz0t1)
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I'm on book 12 of 15 of Craig Alanson's "Expeditionary Force" series. A sarcastic asshole of an Ancient Elder Artificial Intelligence, which is shaped like a small beer can, assists the human "Merry Band of Pirates" as they attempt to fight against a myriad of advanced alien species who've been locked in an interstellar war for hundreds of thousands of years, and who threaten to destroy Earth.
Not bad, just a little long and I'm tiring of all the technical detail about a intergalactic travel system involving worm-holes that seems to be the only interesting sciency stuff in the books. There is a bit of fun with the AI constantly messing with the humans, which he calls "filthy, ignorant monkeys", and the AI pretty much being an arrogant prick. I'm skim reading at this point just to get to the end of the series, since I've spent a couple of weeks getting to book 12 of 15.
Anywho. "Skippy" the Elder AI, AKA the "Asshole Beer Can", says "Hi!".
Not bad, just a little long and I'm tiring of all the technical detail about a intergalactic travel system involving worm-holes that seems to be the only interesting sciency stuff in the books. There is a bit of fun with the AI constantly messing with the humans, which he calls "filthy, ignorant monkeys", and the AI pretty much being an arrogant prick. I'm skim reading at this point just to get to the end of the series, since I've spent a couple of weeks getting to book 12 of 15.
Anywho. "Skippy" the Elder AI, AKA the "Asshole Beer Can", says "Hi!".
Posted by: Sharkman at March 12, 2023 10:07 AM (S7TWn)
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The worst (best?) used Yoko Ono as a character, who happens to be into a certain type of sex act, which gets her into a sticky predicament.
I'll say no more.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 12, 2023 09:43 AM (M2qSa)
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Send it to mh for Yoko Month on the ONT
Posted by: San Franpsycho at March 12, 2023 10:01 AM (EZebt)
Maybe he'd pay me NOT to send it.
I'll say no more.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 12, 2023 09:43 AM (M2qSa)
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Send it to mh for Yoko Month on the ONT
Posted by: San Franpsycho at March 12, 2023 10:01 AM (EZebt)
Maybe he'd pay me NOT to send it.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 12, 2023 10:09 AM (M2qSa)
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I am currently reading "Thrones and Dominations", a Lord Peter Wimsey - Harriet Vane murder mystery novel that Dorothy L. Sayers began writing but abandoned, and which remained at her death as fragments and notes. It was completed by Jill Paton Walsh and published in 1998. The title is a quotation from John Milton's Paradise Lost and refers to two categories of angels in the Christian angelic hierarchy. (wiki description). I'm not far enough into it to give a review but how bad can it be? It's Sayers.
Posted by: grammie winger at March 12, 2023 10:10 AM (45fpk)
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I once watched a show about Chinese street food. People wer so poor that they were using things that were not good to expand what they were cooking to sell. Things like paper.
The bottom line: never, ever eat street food in China.
On the other hand, street food in Budapest is fabulous.
The bottom line: never, ever eat street food in China.
On the other hand, street food in Budapest is fabulous.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 12, 2023 10:10 AM (Y+l9t)
Posted by: Billy Martin at March 12, 2023 10:10 AM (PiwSw)
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I know my script blocker has a HUGE problem with Etsy and anything associated with it. I can't get to Jewell's page unless I disable everything.
Yeah, I just tried to put Jules' link in my nic and got a "banned" message. It appears that Pixy is blocking links to etsy.com. Script blockers are a separate problem. Sometimes I miss good ol' HTML 1.0 with only static pages.
Yeah, I just tried to put Jules' link in my nic and got a "banned" message. It appears that Pixy is blocking links to etsy.com. Script blockers are a separate problem. Sometimes I miss good ol' HTML 1.0 with only static pages.
Posted by: Oddbob at March 12, 2023 10:10 AM (nfrXX)
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The worst (best?) used Yoko Ono as a character, who happens to be into a certain type of sex act, which gets her into a sticky predicament.
I'll say no more.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 12, 2023 09:43 AM (M2qSa)
This reminded me of that commercial on TV where that broad and her 'partner, Spencer' created this stuff because she had "8 UTI's in ONE YEAR!"
The first thing that comes to mind is "You should really remind Spencer that ATV is for an entirely different kind of entertainment."
I'll say no more.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 12, 2023 09:43 AM (M2qSa)
This reminded me of that commercial on TV where that broad and her 'partner, Spencer' created this stuff because she had "8 UTI's in ONE YEAR!"
The first thing that comes to mind is "You should really remind Spencer that ATV is for an entirely different kind of entertainment."
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 12, 2023 10:12 AM (Zz0t1)
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With or without pine tar?
Posted by: Billy Martin at March 12, 2023 10:10 AM (PiwSw)
Ha ha very funny mutherf*cker.
With or without pine tar?
Posted by: Billy Martin at March 12, 2023 10:10 AM (PiwSw)
Ha ha very funny mutherf*cker.
Posted by: George Brett at March 12, 2023 10:12 AM (Zz0t1)
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Holy crep, I just realized I'm in the time zone warp, with my computer saying it's 9:12, while my bedroom clock saying it's 8:12.
This being AZ, I think the earlier time is correct, since this state does NOT spring forward... Hopefully that's right, or I'm showing up to work tomorrow an hour late.
This being AZ, I think the earlier time is correct, since this state does NOT spring forward... Hopefully that's right, or I'm showing up to work tomorrow an hour late.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 12, 2023 10:13 AM (M2qSa)
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Hiya Grammie !
Posted by: JT at March 12, 2023 10:13 AM (T4tVD)
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Hiya JT!
Posted by: grammie winger at March 12, 2023 10:15 AM (45fpk)
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Looking at the clock here, Pixy is either in a time zone that doesn't change or it failed.
It's currently posting in the best time zone.
It's currently posting in the best time zone.
Posted by: George Brett at March 12, 2023 10:16 AM (Zz0t1)
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My husband and academic colleagues did a 4 wk junket in China and came home lighter as it had "the worst Chinese food we ever had" Peking duck was, in their estimation, Peking parakeet.
Posted by: CN at March 12, 2023 10:04 AM (Zzbjj)
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People who want "authentic Chinese" do not know what that actually is.
Posted by: CN at March 12, 2023 10:04 AM (Zzbjj)
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People who want "authentic Chinese" do not know what that actually is.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 12, 2023 10:16 AM (llXky)
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Good lord.......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 12, 2023 10:16 AM (Zz0t1)
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Haven't read anything in ages. I listen to the Bible on Audible as I go to sleep but usually only hear one chapter, if that.
I think journals and journaling would be a possible subject for the Book Thread.
In my case, I'm starting "morning pages" from The Artist's Way again, but using an inexpensive sketch pad that I would have to toss otherwise since it doesn't have a cover. Morning pages are meant to be a spew that isn't revisited, so after I write on both sides I just crinkle up the page and throw it away. Since I hurt my right arm just after deciding to do the pages, this sketch pad format is very fortunate as I can right larger than normal while the arm heals.
I think journals and journaling would be a possible subject for the Book Thread.
In my case, I'm starting "morning pages" from The Artist's Way again, but using an inexpensive sketch pad that I would have to toss otherwise since it doesn't have a cover. Morning pages are meant to be a spew that isn't revisited, so after I write on both sides I just crinkle up the page and throw it away. Since I hurt my right arm just after deciding to do the pages, this sketch pad format is very fortunate as I can right larger than normal while the arm heals.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at March 12, 2023 10:16 AM (nC+QA)
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@241 1990's Art Bell was awesome. He built a 500 station radio empire. The alien stuff was all radio drama. High power Tesla stuff aboard US navy vessels doing time-travel experiments. Area 51 drama: some guy calls in while supposedly flying his Cessna over Groom lake - he gets.. shot down?
Posted by: 13times at March 12, 2023 10:17 AM (su443)
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This being AZ, I think the earlier time is correct, since this state does NOT spring forward.
I don't envy Arizona for very much but they got that right.
I don't envy Arizona for very much but they got that right.
Posted by: Oddbob at March 12, 2023 10:17 AM (nfrXX)
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Back from a constitutional with the lively and energetic Mrs naturalfake.
Lesse what's upthread.
Lesse what's upthread.
Posted by: naturalfake at March 12, 2023 10:17 AM (L1tQx)
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And now I can't get my stupid phone to switch to Arizona time.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 12, 2023 10:17 AM (M2qSa)
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People who want "authentic Chinese" do not know what that actually is.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 12, 2023 10:16 AM (llXky)
And I have heard that from local Chinese immigrant types. American ingredients are basically better.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 12, 2023 10:16 AM (llXky)
And I have heard that from local Chinese immigrant types. American ingredients are basically better.
Posted by: CN at March 12, 2023 10:17 AM (Zzbjj)
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Area 51 drama: some guy calls in while supposedly flying his Cessna over Groom lake - he gets.. shot down?
Posted by: 13times at March 12, 2023 10:17 AM (su443)
Wife was watching some Netflix documentary on the MH370 'disappearance.'
Boy howdy that's a f*cked up situation there......
Posted by: 13times at March 12, 2023 10:17 AM (su443)
Wife was watching some Netflix documentary on the MH370 'disappearance.'
Boy howdy that's a f*cked up situation there......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 12, 2023 10:18 AM (Zz0t1)
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I listen to the Bible on Audible as I go to sleep but usually only hear one chapter, if that.
We've been listening to the Bible as read by David Suchet. We are trying to "read" through it in a year. So far we're on Deuteronomy. Thank goodness Numbers is behind us.
We've been listening to the Bible as read by David Suchet. We are trying to "read" through it in a year. So far we're on Deuteronomy. Thank goodness Numbers is behind us.
Posted by: grammie winger at March 12, 2023 10:19 AM (45fpk)
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Moki,
I did watch the C. B. Strike series on HBOMax and then read the series. The show was well done. It was odd to realize that lots of front doors in England don't have doorknobs and rooms are separate and have doors that close. I can't imagine a kitchen as a separate room with a door. I mean I knew that many homes in England are a bunch of separate rooms with doors but for some reason it really stuck out to me this time.
I did watch the C. B. Strike series on HBOMax and then read the series. The show was well done. It was odd to realize that lots of front doors in England don't have doorknobs and rooms are separate and have doors that close. I can't imagine a kitchen as a separate room with a door. I mean I knew that many homes in England are a bunch of separate rooms with doors but for some reason it really stuck out to me this time.
Posted by: lin-duh at March 12, 2023 10:19 AM (UUBmN)
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Anyone know of any elementary Latin texts I could give to the grandsons? I still have a few old high school books, but nothing for the younger kids.
As for my reading, very little. I've had the grandsons as dad came down with the 'rona, and we want them good for school. They are here, so I'm keeping them busy, driving to tennis and Russian Math School, and endless meals.
As for my reading, very little. I've had the grandsons as dad came down with the 'rona, and we want them good for school. They are here, so I'm keeping them busy, driving to tennis and Russian Math School, and endless meals.
Posted by: CN at March 12, 2023 10:21 AM (Zzbjj)
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Squatting to poop is a skill best learned when young
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at March 12, 2023 09:39 AM (fUnHJ)
Squatting to poop is a skill best learned young
With reckless pooping out pops your lungs
Or when badly constipated
You might just be fated
To squeeze out a turd on your tongue!
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at March 12, 2023 09:39 AM (fUnHJ)
Squatting to poop is a skill best learned young
With reckless pooping out pops your lungs
Or when badly constipated
You might just be fated
To squeeze out a turd on your tongue!
Posted by: naturalfake at March 12, 2023 10:21 AM (L1tQx)
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So far we're on Deuteronomy. Thank goodness Numbers is behind us.
All those names and genealogies must be there for some reason. I worry that I'm missing something important when I skip or breeze over them.
All those names and genealogies must be there for some reason. I worry that I'm missing something important when I skip or breeze over them.
Posted by: Oddbob at March 12, 2023 10:21 AM (nfrXX)
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Pro-Tip: never, ever eat authentic Chinese food in a real Chinese restaurant. Stick with fake Chinese restaurants like PF Chang's and Panda Express.
The Chinese are out of their minds with regard to food, and eat anything, even things that were never intended to be eaten
Which reminds of this hilarious video called SARS Wars: Rogue Wuhan:
https://youtu.be/RVABcl5qPA0
The Chinese are out of their minds with regard to food, and eat anything, even things that were never intended to be eaten
Which reminds of this hilarious video called SARS Wars: Rogue Wuhan:
https://youtu.be/RVABcl5qPA0
Posted by: Sharkman at March 12, 2023 10:22 AM (S7TWn)
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I loved the C B Strike series and saw that there was a TV show. I haven't been able to find it ooutside of HBO max which I don't get. But I could visualize the people in the book really clearly, especially Strike, and didn't want my image of him changed. Did you think it was well cast?
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 12, 2023 10:22 AM (Y+l9t)
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driving to tennis and Russian Math School, and endless meals.
Posted by: CN at March 12, 2023 10:21 AM (Zzbjj)
How is Russian math different from the rest of the world math?
Posted by: CN at March 12, 2023 10:21 AM (Zzbjj)
How is Russian math different from the rest of the world math?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 12, 2023 10:22 AM (Zz0t1)
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One of the often-overlooked aspects of China is the strong division between the rice-eating areas and those that use other grains and make bread.
To a large extent, the Han heartland is along the Yangtze River valley and the far more fertile (and populous) south is still a tributary region. One of the "sins" of the Nationalists was that they set up the capital in Nanking, a southern city.
Another (less appetizing) commentary on Chinese food is that while researching Walls of Men I found that the Chinese had intense courage during sieges, up to an including cannibalism. While Europeans have been known to do it (see the ordeal of the Essex), the Chinese seem to regard it as more a matter of regret than a taboo.
Then again, if dogs, rats, cats and bats are already on the menu, there's not much else to fall back on.
To a large extent, the Han heartland is along the Yangtze River valley and the far more fertile (and populous) south is still a tributary region. One of the "sins" of the Nationalists was that they set up the capital in Nanking, a southern city.
Another (less appetizing) commentary on Chinese food is that while researching Walls of Men I found that the Chinese had intense courage during sieges, up to an including cannibalism. While Europeans have been known to do it (see the ordeal of the Essex), the Chinese seem to regard it as more a matter of regret than a taboo.
Then again, if dogs, rats, cats and bats are already on the menu, there's not much else to fall back on.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 12, 2023 10:22 AM (llXky)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 12, 2023 10:23 AM (Zz0t1)
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Phew.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 12, 2023 10:23 AM (Zz0t1)
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The Chinese are out of their minds with regard to food, and eat anything, even things that were never intended to be eaten
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Chinese will eat anything with legs except tables and chairs...
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Chinese will eat anything with legs except tables and chairs...
Posted by: lin-duh at March 12, 2023 10:23 AM (UUBmN)
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How is Russian math different from the rest of the world math?
There is a trench just outside the classroom. You really don't want to fail the final exam.
There is a trench just outside the classroom. You really don't want to fail the final exam.
Posted by: Oddbob at March 12, 2023 10:24 AM (nfrXX)
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How is Russian math different from the rest of the world math?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 12, 2023 10:22 AM (Zz0t1)
It's the name of an enrichment program. It was bashed in some NYC papers as being "a way rich people get kids into the Ivies, so thank God for those who drop the SATs". It's 2h a week and very good.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 12, 2023 10:22 AM (Zz0t1)
It's the name of an enrichment program. It was bashed in some NYC papers as being "a way rich people get kids into the Ivies, so thank God for those who drop the SATs". It's 2h a week and very good.
Posted by: CN at March 12, 2023 10:25 AM (Zzbjj)
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I mean I knew that many homes in England are a bunch of separate rooms with doors but for some reason it really stuck out to me this time.
Posted by: lin-duh at March 12, 2023 10:19 AM (UUBmN)
I noticed that in a couple British reno and real estate shows. I'd take most of them off. No reason to have a kitchen door blocking access to the dining room.
Posted by: lin-duh at March 12, 2023 10:19 AM (UUBmN)
I noticed that in a couple British reno and real estate shows. I'd take most of them off. No reason to have a kitchen door blocking access to the dining room.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at March 12, 2023 10:25 AM (Angsy)
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I also found a small nice sketchbook, turns out those things proliferate like rabbits if you don't keep an eye on them, that I'm using to start sketch journaling. The prompt is "I learned recently", I do a *very* simple sketch, and then I write two or three sentences. I'm really bad about starting journals and then quitting a couple of weeks (if it takes that long) later, and this may not last any longer than the others. I used to draw a lot when I was in school and sitting at a desk, and wasn't much worse than modern comic artists, so it may actually last.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at March 12, 2023 10:25 AM (nC+QA)
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All those names and genealogies must be there for some reason.
Posted by: Oddbob at March 12, 2023 10:21 AM (nfrXX)
Census?
Posted by: Oddbob at March 12, 2023 10:21 AM (nfrXX)
Census?
Posted by: BignJames at March 12, 2023 10:25 AM (AwYPR)
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Another way to look at it is that China never evolved an "honors of war" system, where a defending garrison was expected to put up a respectable show of resistance but could then yield without reprisal or shame.
In China, clemency was always very rare. About the only instances of cities surrendering without massive slaughter were the Nationalist ones in Manchuria in 1946. Mao made a big show of clemency to foster defections and also integrated the defeated troops into his own armies.
Normally you get one chance to submit and if you lose, everyone's whacked.
In China, clemency was always very rare. About the only instances of cities surrendering without massive slaughter were the Nationalist ones in Manchuria in 1946. Mao made a big show of clemency to foster defections and also integrated the defeated troops into his own armies.
Normally you get one chance to submit and if you lose, everyone's whacked.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 12, 2023 10:25 AM (llXky)
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It almost felt as if two writers were yanking the word processor away from each other as they developed the script.
Posted by: Trimegistus at March 12, 2023 09:56 AM (QZxDR)
Written by Dr Jekyll
Posted by: Trimegistus at March 12, 2023 09:56 AM (QZxDR)
Written by Dr Jekyll
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at March 12, 2023 10:26 AM (fUnHJ)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 12, 2023 10:26 AM (Zz0t1)
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The Chinese are out of their minds with regard to food, and eat anything, even things that were never intended to be eaten
Which reminds of this hilarious video called SARS Wars: Rogue Wuhan:
https://youtu.be/RVABcl5qPA0
Posted by: Sharkman at March 12, 2023 10:22 AM (S7TWn)
Albert Fish, The Grey Man, said he learned about eating people from a sailor who had returned from China who was there during a famine. The sailor had seen and sampled the Long Pork on display in the market places and said it was not bad.
Al had issues.
Which reminds of this hilarious video called SARS Wars: Rogue Wuhan:
https://youtu.be/RVABcl5qPA0
Posted by: Sharkman at March 12, 2023 10:22 AM (S7TWn)
Albert Fish, The Grey Man, said he learned about eating people from a sailor who had returned from China who was there during a famine. The sailor had seen and sampled the Long Pork on display in the market places and said it was not bad.
Al had issues.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 12, 2023 10:26 AM (R/m4+)
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Polynikes,that's great!
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at March 12, 2023 10:26 AM (fUnHJ)
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I did watch the C. B. Strike series on HBOMax and then read the series. The show was well done. It was odd to realize that lots of front doors in England don't have doorknobs and rooms are separate and have doors that close. I can't imagine a kitchen as a separate room with a door. I mean I knew that many homes in England are a bunch of separate rooms with doors but for some reason it really stuck out to me this time.
Posted by: lin-duh at March 12, 2023 10:19 AM (UUBmN)
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When I first moved to Germany as a kid, I thought it weird that the German homes we lived in had separate doors for almost all living areas (living room, kitchen, dining room, etc.). Never lived in a German home with an open floor plan. That seems to be much more common here in the U.S.
Posted by: lin-duh at March 12, 2023 10:19 AM (UUBmN)
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When I first moved to Germany as a kid, I thought it weird that the German homes we lived in had separate doors for almost all living areas (living room, kitchen, dining room, etc.). Never lived in a German home with an open floor plan. That seems to be much more common here in the U.S.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 12, 2023 10:26 AM (BpYfr)
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As for my reading, very little. I've had the grandsons as dad came down with the 'rona, and we want them good for school. They are here, so I'm keeping them busy, driving to tennis and Russian Math School, and endless meals.
Posted by: CN at March 12, 2023 10:21 AM (Zzbjj)
I've been having fun going through this one. It is very, very basic but you have to start somewhere.
https://is.gd/5LOBjs
Posted by: CN at March 12, 2023 10:21 AM (Zzbjj)
I've been having fun going through this one. It is very, very basic but you have to start somewhere.
https://is.gd/5LOBjs
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at March 12, 2023 10:27 AM (PiwSw)
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Chinese will eat anything with legs except tables and chairs...
Posted by: lin-duh at March 12, 2023 10:23 AM (UUBmN)
Sawdust can be a great thickening agent!
Chinese will eat anything with legs except tables and chairs...
Posted by: lin-duh at March 12, 2023 10:23 AM (UUBmN)
Sawdust can be a great thickening agent!
Posted by: Yan Can Cook at March 12, 2023 10:28 AM (Zz0t1)
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Art Bell would say things like "I'm a nuts-and-bolts sort of guy," brief pause, "so, after the alien sucked your brains out of your skull ..." and he would totally get away with it!
I think his first two books were The Art of Talk and The Quickening.
I think his first two books were The Art of Talk and The Quickening.
Posted by: 13times at March 12, 2023 10:28 AM (su443)
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The book was entertaining but I'm thinking I'll try Parker's Spenser series next.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 12, 2023
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Parker's skill was not as a mystery plotter. Nobody would ever rank him with Ellery Queen or Agatha Christie. His strength is in fast pace, quick and funny dialogs, and quiet characterization like that of Jesse Stone and the Spenser series. For those, I recommend the early ones, God Save the Child (in which Spenser meets his long-time love, Susan), Mortal Stakes, Promised Land (in which Hawk first appears), Early Autumn and Looking for Rachel Wallace.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 12, 2023
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Parker's skill was not as a mystery plotter. Nobody would ever rank him with Ellery Queen or Agatha Christie. His strength is in fast pace, quick and funny dialogs, and quiet characterization like that of Jesse Stone and the Spenser series. For those, I recommend the early ones, God Save the Child (in which Spenser meets his long-time love, Susan), Mortal Stakes, Promised Land (in which Hawk first appears), Early Autumn and Looking for Rachel Wallace.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 12, 2023 10:28 AM (omVj0)
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All those names and genealogies must be there for some reason.
Posted by: Oddbob at March 12, 2023 10:21 AM (nfrXX)
Census?
Posted by: BignJames at March 12, 2023 10:25 AM (AwYPR)
Makes census to me.
Posted by: Oddbob at March 12, 2023 10:21 AM (nfrXX)
Census?
Posted by: BignJames at March 12, 2023 10:25 AM (AwYPR)
Makes census to me.
Posted by: Caesar Augustus at March 12, 2023 10:29 AM (Angsy)
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Wife was watching some Netflix documentary on the MH370 'disappearance.'
Boy howdy that's a f*cked up situation there......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 12, 2023 10:18 AM (Zz0t1)
Just finished that earlier this week. All I'll say is, the "official story" is bullship, and those people will never really know what happened. Y'all will be surprised to hear, it's possible the U.S. of A. was involved in downing the plane, and even if we weren't, we almost certainly know exactly who did and where.
Boy howdy that's a f*cked up situation there......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 12, 2023 10:18 AM (Zz0t1)
Just finished that earlier this week. All I'll say is, the "official story" is bullship, and those people will never really know what happened. Y'all will be surprised to hear, it's possible the U.S. of A. was involved in downing the plane, and even if we weren't, we almost certainly know exactly who did and where.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 12, 2023 10:29 AM (M2qSa)
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Never lived in a German home with an open floor plan. That seems to be much more common here in the U.S.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 12, 2023 10:26 AM (BpYfr)
My theory here is that kids were just that much better at hide and seek than their parents, so the open concept floorplan was created.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 12, 2023 10:26 AM (BpYfr)
My theory here is that kids were just that much better at hide and seek than their parents, so the open concept floorplan was created.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 12, 2023 10:29 AM (Zz0t1)
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I can't imagine a kitchen as a separate room with a door. I mean I knew that many homes in England are a bunch of separate rooms with doors but for some reason it really stuck out to me this time.
Posted by: lin-duh at March 12, 2023 10:19 AM (UUBmN)
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A lot of them were built before central heating, so each room had its own fireplace. To update a house like that, you put in an electric grate in.
Doors allowed you to better regulate the heat loss.
Posted by: lin-duh at March 12, 2023 10:19 AM (UUBmN)
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A lot of them were built before central heating, so each room had its own fireplace. To update a house like that, you put in an electric grate in.
Doors allowed you to better regulate the heat loss.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 12, 2023 10:30 AM (llXky)
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I noticed that in a couple British reno and real estate shows. I'd take most of them off. No reason to have a kitchen door blocking access to the dining room.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at March 12, 2023 10:25 AM
You want Geeves to watch as you partake of your pheasant under glass? How uncivilized.
I noticed that in a couple British reno and real estate shows. I'd take most of them off. No reason to have a kitchen door blocking access to the dining room.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at March 12, 2023 10:25 AM
You want Geeves to watch as you partake of your pheasant under glass? How uncivilized.
Posted by: Thurston Von Baron III at March 12, 2023 10:30 AM (enJYY)
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Y'all will be surprised to hear, it's possible the U.S. of A. was involved in downing the plane, and even if we weren't, we almost certainly know exactly who did and where.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 12, 2023 10:29 AM (M2qSa)
That's the theory we went with as well. We know what happened, where it went and the evidence is sitting somewhere near the Arc of the Covenant.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 12, 2023 10:29 AM (M2qSa)
That's the theory we went with as well. We know what happened, where it went and the evidence is sitting somewhere near the Arc of the Covenant.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 12, 2023 10:30 AM (Zz0t1)
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65 Morning, all,
The leads of The Man From U.N.C.L.E., the originals I mean, Napoleon Solo and Illya Kuryakin, are not in public domain yet. So I've only written about them in MfU fan fiction. But I have worked in appearances by Dr. Richard Kimble in one story -- he's the "innocent" character that Solo and Illya recruit to help them -- and Bud Baxter and Fran Kubelik from The Apartment. That one is set about 4 years after the movie events; they are married and have a small daughter. Someone is trying to kill Bud, and Solo and Illya have to keep him and Fran alive.
In a Girl From U.N.C.L.E. story, too, I mention Rollin Hand of Mission: Impossible, and have appearances by Ellery Queen and his father the Inspector, and real-life people Truman Capote, Lee Radziwill, Cilla Black, and Horst Jankowski. In passing, all of it, not slowing the story down at all. But that was so much fun!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 12, 2023 08:40 AM
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Brother Aurelius, I don't think I could love you any more. Please tell me the name under which you write, and as the monomaniacal crossover collector I am, I will hunt all of the above down. Thank you.
The leads of The Man From U.N.C.L.E., the originals I mean, Napoleon Solo and Illya Kuryakin, are not in public domain yet. So I've only written about them in MfU fan fiction. But I have worked in appearances by Dr. Richard Kimble in one story -- he's the "innocent" character that Solo and Illya recruit to help them -- and Bud Baxter and Fran Kubelik from The Apartment. That one is set about 4 years after the movie events; they are married and have a small daughter. Someone is trying to kill Bud, and Solo and Illya have to keep him and Fran alive.
In a Girl From U.N.C.L.E. story, too, I mention Rollin Hand of Mission: Impossible, and have appearances by Ellery Queen and his father the Inspector, and real-life people Truman Capote, Lee Radziwill, Cilla Black, and Horst Jankowski. In passing, all of it, not slowing the story down at all. But that was so much fun!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 12, 2023 08:40 AM
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Brother Aurelius, I don't think I could love you any more. Please tell me the name under which you write, and as the monomaniacal crossover collector I am, I will hunt all of the above down. Thank you.
Posted by: werewife, princess of Delray Beach at March 12, 2023 10:30 AM (SPNTN)
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1599 Geneva Bible this morning.
Posted by: Eromero at March 12, 2023 10:31 AM (DXbAa)
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Good morning Hordemates.
Posted by: Diogenes at March 12, 2023 10:31 AM (anj39)
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Albert Fish, The Grey Man, said he learned about eating people from a sailor who had returned from China who was there during a famine. The sailor had seen and sampled the Long Pork on display in the market places and said it was not bad.
Al had issues.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 12, 2023 10:26 AM (R/m4+)
"Al had issues."
That's the funniest understatement I've seen in these parts in a long time.
Al had issues.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 12, 2023 10:26 AM (R/m4+)
"Al had issues."
That's the funniest understatement I've seen in these parts in a long time.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 12, 2023 10:32 AM (M2qSa)
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Pnuema Hagion, Holy Spirit.
Posted by: Eromero at March 12, 2023 10:32 AM (DXbAa)
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Albert Fish, The Grey Man, said he learned about eating people from a sailor who had returned from China who was there during a famine. The sailor had seen and sampled the Long Pork on display in the market places and said it was not bad.
Al had issues.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy
"Sparerib Soup" is a Chinese delicacy comprised of an aborted human fetus in veggie noodle soup.
I'll pass.
Al had issues.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy
"Sparerib Soup" is a Chinese delicacy comprised of an aborted human fetus in veggie noodle soup.
I'll pass.
Posted by: Sharkman at March 12, 2023 10:32 AM (S7TWn)
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All those names and genealogies must be there for some reason. I worry that I'm missing something important when I skip or breeze over them.
Posted by: Oddbob at March 12, 2023 10:21 AM (nfrXX)
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Family is an afterthought to Americans, a curiosity or a hobby, sometimes a burden.
In ancient societies, lineage was supremely important as it often defined rights and roles.
It wasn't just the Jews. Everyone from the Romans to the Chinese knew their ancestors and interacted with them through worship and sacrifice.
Americans are the first people I know of to treat the dead as something that belongs in a landfill.
Posted by: Oddbob at March 12, 2023 10:21 AM (nfrXX)
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Family is an afterthought to Americans, a curiosity or a hobby, sometimes a burden.
In ancient societies, lineage was supremely important as it often defined rights and roles.
It wasn't just the Jews. Everyone from the Romans to the Chinese knew their ancestors and interacted with them through worship and sacrifice.
Americans are the first people I know of to treat the dead as something that belongs in a landfill.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 12, 2023 10:33 AM (llXky)
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Y'all will be surprised to hear, it's possible the U.S. of A. was involved in downing the plane, and even if we weren't, we almost certainly know exactly who did and where.
Posted by: BurtTC
No way!
Next you'll tell me the FBI secretly had possession of the pilot's flight simulator before "releasing" it...
Posted by: BurtTC
No way!
Next you'll tell me the FBI secretly had possession of the pilot's flight simulator before "releasing" it...
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at March 12, 2023 10:33 AM (fUnHJ)
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"Sparerib Soup" is a Chinese delicacy comprised of an aborted human fetus in veggie noodle soup.
I'll pass.
Posted by: Sharkman at March 12, 2023 10:32 AM (S7TWn)
Uh oh......Who let the cat out of the bag?
"Sparerib Soup" is a Chinese delicacy comprised of an aborted human fetus in veggie noodle soup.
I'll pass.
Posted by: Sharkman at March 12, 2023 10:32 AM (S7TWn)
Uh oh......Who let the cat out of the bag?
Posted by: Planned Parenthood Keeping Hillary Alive at March 12, 2023 10:33 AM (Zz0t1)
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Posted by: BurtTC at March 12, 2023 10:29 AM (M2qSa)
That's the theory we went with as well. We know what happened, where it went and the evidence is sitting somewhere near the Arc of the Covenant.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 12, 2023 10:30 AM (Zz0t1)
And somebody high up in the Barak Hussein Obama admin either ordered it, or knew about it while the missile was flying toward the plane.
That's the theory we went with as well. We know what happened, where it went and the evidence is sitting somewhere near the Arc of the Covenant.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 12, 2023 10:30 AM (Zz0t1)
And somebody high up in the Barak Hussein Obama admin either ordered it, or knew about it while the missile was flying toward the plane.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 12, 2023 10:34 AM (M2qSa)
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You want Geeves to watch as you partake of your pheasant under glass? How uncivilized.
Posted by: Thurston Von Baron III at March 12, 2023 10:30 AM (enJYY)
Good God man! It's so you can watch the scullery maid in her wet t shirt whilst washing up.
Posted by: Thurston Von Baron III at March 12, 2023 10:30 AM (enJYY)
Good God man! It's so you can watch the scullery maid in her wet t shirt whilst washing up.
Posted by: Lord Archmain at March 12, 2023 10:34 AM (Angsy)
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Americans are the first people I know of to treat the dead as something that belongs in a landfill.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 12, 2023 10:33 AM (llXky)
Landfill??? At least compost them
Americans are the first people I know of to treat the dead as something that belongs in a landfill.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 12, 2023 10:33 AM (llXky)
Landfill??? At least compost them
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In a Girl From U.N.C.L.E. story, too, I mention Rollin Hand of Mission: Impossible, and have appearances by Ellery Queen and his father the Inspector, and real-life people Truman Capote, Lee Radziwill, Cilla Black, and Horst Jankowski. In passing, all of it, not slowing the story down at all. But that was so much fun!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 12, 2023 08:40 AM
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Brother Aurelius, I don't think I could love you any more. Please tell me the name under which you write, and as the monomaniacal crossover collector I am, I will hunt all of the above down. Thank you.
Posted by: werewife, princess of Delray Beach at March 12, 2023
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Werewife, thanks for the applause. I think you'll like them.
Those stories are by "Benzadmiral." Look for that name on mfuarchive.net.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 12, 2023 08:40 AM
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Brother Aurelius, I don't think I could love you any more. Please tell me the name under which you write, and as the monomaniacal crossover collector I am, I will hunt all of the above down. Thank you.
Posted by: werewife, princess of Delray Beach at March 12, 2023
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Werewife, thanks for the applause. I think you'll like them.
Those stories are by "Benzadmiral." Look for that name on mfuarchive.net.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 12, 2023 10:34 AM (omVj0)
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*throws up*
*throws up*
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at March 12, 2023 10:34 AM (fUnHJ)
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Wife was watching some Netflix documentary on the MH370 'disappearance.'
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Black asshole said it was a black hole.
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Black asshole said it was a black hole.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 12, 2023 10:34 AM (FVME7)
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The public domain topic is interesting. Mrs D has been watching The Pretender series and it took me a bit to realize Jerod always took a name related to the story for each episode. Shatner, Legosi, etc. when I'm forced to watch, that's all I look for now...and also to see how short Miss Parker's skirts can go.
Posted by: Diogenes at March 12, 2023 10:35 AM (anj39)
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Americans are the first people I know of to treat the dead as something that belongs in a landfill.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 12, 2023 10:33 AM (llXky)
Because barbequing them on a boat so the marine life doesn't have to eat raw meat is so much better.......
Americans are the first people I know of to treat the dead as something that belongs in a landfill.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 12, 2023 10:33 AM (llXky)
Because barbequing them on a boat so the marine life doesn't have to eat raw meat is so much better.......
Posted by: Planned Parenthood Keeping Hillary Alive at March 12, 2023 10:35 AM (Zz0t1)
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I learned about the Sotadic Zone from Burton.
About 150pgs into The Dragon Bone Chair. Idk. Getting more into it. It's a slow detailed reveal of an elaborate plot. Loooong book. Lots of detail. Lots of ominous foreboding. Fairly interesting characters. Important ppl die early.
I can see why GRR Martin loved it. And how much he took from it.
I'll give it a bit more. But dude let's cut to the chase and ease up on the lollygagging I got places to be and things to do you maniac.
I got good feedback on two reccs I recently made: Quincunx and Bridge of Birds.
Bridge of Birds is by Barry Hughart. It's a Taoist adventure. I know it sounds twee and dumb. It isn't. It is laugh out loud funny and kind. Fantastic characters. Wodehouse fans pls check out. Anyone into Taoism pls check out. Or Zen. It's a truly beautiful book and will make you feel good.
Quincunx is by Palliser. It's about the Law in "Dickensian" England. Obv, anyone at all interested in Dickens should take a look. Strange and Norrell fans too. A big book. Very readable. Very well done. Labyrinthine but not like Borges or Eco. Just involved like Dickens. Really enjoyed this. Great characters.
About 150pgs into The Dragon Bone Chair. Idk. Getting more into it. It's a slow detailed reveal of an elaborate plot. Loooong book. Lots of detail. Lots of ominous foreboding. Fairly interesting characters. Important ppl die early.
I can see why GRR Martin loved it. And how much he took from it.
I'll give it a bit more. But dude let's cut to the chase and ease up on the lollygagging I got places to be and things to do you maniac.
I got good feedback on two reccs I recently made: Quincunx and Bridge of Birds.
Bridge of Birds is by Barry Hughart. It's a Taoist adventure. I know it sounds twee and dumb. It isn't. It is laugh out loud funny and kind. Fantastic characters. Wodehouse fans pls check out. Anyone into Taoism pls check out. Or Zen. It's a truly beautiful book and will make you feel good.
Quincunx is by Palliser. It's about the Law in "Dickensian" England. Obv, anyone at all interested in Dickens should take a look. Strange and Norrell fans too. A big book. Very readable. Very well done. Labyrinthine but not like Borges or Eco. Just involved like Dickens. Really enjoyed this. Great characters.
Posted by: Thesokorus at March 12, 2023 10:35 AM (1ais2)
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Ugh.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 12, 2023 10:35 AM (Zz0t1)
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I found a book while cleaning up that i don't remember buying that was published a few years ago.
"Level 26", Is started reading it.
It's the first part of a serial killer crime trilogy by the guy who writes CSI.
The "hook" is that "Level 26" is "the world's first Digital-Novel". Essentially what that means is that you can log into a site (www.level26.com) enter a code found on a page and view a scene that the author was too lazy to write.
As an example the first video is of a murder tape that the serial killer "Sqweegel"(hahahahaha!) sends to the main detective out of Quantico. From just reading the book all you know is that everyone is shocked into silence. So, the scenes probably aren't necessary. And that's a good thing cuz now the site is dead.
I may finish reading the book because although the story is silly so far (the killer uses 4.5 sticks of butter to grease himself up to constantly wear around a body condom so he doesn't leave clues) and I can't buy into it,
The author has a very nice, clean, simple style of writing that is very readable, so I thought there might be something to learn there.
You're on your own with this one.
"Level 26", Is started reading it.
It's the first part of a serial killer crime trilogy by the guy who writes CSI.
The "hook" is that "Level 26" is "the world's first Digital-Novel". Essentially what that means is that you can log into a site (www.level26.com) enter a code found on a page and view a scene that the author was too lazy to write.
As an example the first video is of a murder tape that the serial killer "Sqweegel"(hahahahaha!) sends to the main detective out of Quantico. From just reading the book all you know is that everyone is shocked into silence. So, the scenes probably aren't necessary. And that's a good thing cuz now the site is dead.
I may finish reading the book because although the story is silly so far (the killer uses 4.5 sticks of butter to grease himself up to constantly wear around a body condom so he doesn't leave clues) and I can't buy into it,
The author has a very nice, clean, simple style of writing that is very readable, so I thought there might be something to learn there.
You're on your own with this one.
Posted by: naturalfake at March 12, 2023 10:35 AM (L1tQx)
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Thanks Wolfus. I really like murder mysteries, the more complex, the better. Which is why I like the C.B. strike series so much. The thing I enjoyed about the Jesse Stone movies was the quiet way he went about figuring out what happened. The book did some of that but I figured out who dunnit well before the end of the book so the end was anticlimactic.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 12, 2023 10:35 AM (Y+l9t)
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Posted by: BurtTC
No way!
Next you'll tell me the FBI secretly had possession of the pilot's flight simulator before "releasing" it...
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at March 12, 2023 10:33 AM (fUnHJ)
Yeah, that was the clincher. Oh by the way, here you go, we found this in his home.
Sure you did. And they even lied about that, there was no flight simulation, merely someone moving the cursor to demonstrate on the map or whatever, where they flight COULD go, if that course was taken.
No way!
Next you'll tell me the FBI secretly had possession of the pilot's flight simulator before "releasing" it...
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at March 12, 2023 10:33 AM (fUnHJ)
Yeah, that was the clincher. Oh by the way, here you go, we found this in his home.
Sure you did. And they even lied about that, there was no flight simulation, merely someone moving the cursor to demonstrate on the map or whatever, where they flight COULD go, if that course was taken.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 12, 2023 10:36 AM (M2qSa)
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Black asshole said it was a black hole.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 12, 2023 10:34 AM (FVME7)
Just because you dine on black hole doesn't mean things disappear in them.
Black asshole said it was a black hole.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 12, 2023 10:34 AM (FVME7)
Just because you dine on black hole doesn't mean things disappear in them.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 12, 2023 10:36 AM (Zz0t1)
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Werewife, the Girl From U.N.C.L.E. story is NOT campy and silly like the TV series. I took the original leads, the young female agent and her older trainer/partner, from the pilot -- not the Stefanie Powers/Noel Harrison team from the show as it ran.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 12, 2023 10:37 AM (omVj0)
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Yeah, that was the clincher. Oh by the way, here you go, we found this in his home.
Sure you did. And they even lied about that, there was no flight simulation, merely someone moving the cursor to demonstrate on the map or whatever, where they flight COULD go, if that course was taken.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 12, 2023 10:36 AM (M2qSa)
Two YEARS later.
Yeah, that was the clincher. Oh by the way, here you go, we found this in his home.
Sure you did. And they even lied about that, there was no flight simulation, merely someone moving the cursor to demonstrate on the map or whatever, where they flight COULD go, if that course was taken.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 12, 2023 10:36 AM (M2qSa)
Two YEARS later.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 12, 2023 10:37 AM (Zz0t1)
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Something that caught my eye during the week was the drop in IQ (no doubt the tests will be 'recalibrated') and I truly wonder if the lack of memorization skills has contributed. A lot of arithmetic/math is memorization; a lot of poetry is memorization; and the lack of the skill seems counter to brain development.
Just throwing that out there for the big-brain Morons. My own attention span (and color sense) is firmly in the toddler category.
Just throwing that out there for the big-brain Morons. My own attention span (and color sense) is firmly in the toddler category.
Posted by: mustbequantum at March 12, 2023 10:38 AM (MIKMs)
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I really like murder mysteries, the more complex, the better. Which is why I like the C.B. strike series so much. The thing I enjoyed about the Jesse Stone movies was the quiet way he went about figuring out what happened. The book did some of that but I figured out who dunnit well before the end of the book so the end was anticlimactic.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 12, 2023
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Have you tried Ellery Queen and John Dickson Carr? They raised "complex" to a fine art.
It's odd, but in the Jesse Stone books Jesse is about 30 years old when the stories begin. He's not Tom Selleck's age. Yet Parker's dialog fits perfectly with Selleck's appearance and manner.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 12, 2023
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Have you tried Ellery Queen and John Dickson Carr? They raised "complex" to a fine art.
It's odd, but in the Jesse Stone books Jesse is about 30 years old when the stories begin. He's not Tom Selleck's age. Yet Parker's dialog fits perfectly with Selleck's appearance and manner.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 12, 2023 10:39 AM (omVj0)
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I truly wonder if the lack of memorization skills has contributed. A lot of arithmetic/math is memorization; a lot of poetry is memorization; and the lack of the skill seems counter to brain development.
Just throwing that out there for the big-brain Morons. My own attention span (and color sense) is firmly in the toddler category.
Posted by: mustbequantum at March 12, 2023 10:38 AM (MIKMs)
I bring up this point with my daughter quite often. She'll bring home a low grade in a class like Government or something. I'll say "It's straight up memorization. Are you just not reading the materials?"
It doesn't help that she's in the last 1/2 of her senior year of high school.......
Just throwing that out there for the big-brain Morons. My own attention span (and color sense) is firmly in the toddler category.
Posted by: mustbequantum at March 12, 2023 10:38 AM (MIKMs)
I bring up this point with my daughter quite often. She'll bring home a low grade in a class like Government or something. I'll say "It's straight up memorization. Are you just not reading the materials?"
It doesn't help that she's in the last 1/2 of her senior year of high school.......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 12, 2023 10:40 AM (Zz0t1)
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In ancient societies, lineage was supremely important as it often defined rights and roles.
All true but if you believe that Scripture is the divinely inspired Word of G*d, then it's been preserved because it was meant to have meaning through the ages, including to us. And I can't help but think that we're missing a lot of that meaning.
All true but if you believe that Scripture is the divinely inspired Word of G*d, then it's been preserved because it was meant to have meaning through the ages, including to us. And I can't help but think that we're missing a lot of that meaning.
Posted by: Oddbob at March 12, 2023 10:41 AM (nfrXX)
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Americans are the first people I know of to treat the dead as something that belongs in a landfill.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 12, 2023 10:33 AM (llXky)
This is one of the seminal articles for me. It's about this. I think about it a lot.
https://www.firstthings.com/article/
2007/06/001-death-politics
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 12, 2023 10:33 AM (llXky)
This is one of the seminal articles for me. It's about this. I think about it a lot.
https://www.firstthings.com/article/
2007/06/001-death-politics
Posted by: Thesokorus at March 12, 2023 10:41 AM (1ais2)
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It's odd, but in the Jesse Stone books Jesse is about 30 years old when the stories begin. He's not Tom Selleck's age. Yet Parker's dialog fits perfectly with Selleck's appearance and manner.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 12, 2023 10:39 AM (omVj0)
Hey. This ain't my first rodeo.
It's odd, but in the Jesse Stone books Jesse is about 30 years old when the stories begin. He's not Tom Selleck's age. Yet Parker's dialog fits perfectly with Selleck's appearance and manner.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 12, 2023 10:39 AM (omVj0)
Hey. This ain't my first rodeo.
Posted by: AIG Pitchman Tom Selleck at March 12, 2023 10:42 AM (Zz0t1)
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Art Bell would often comment "incredible" after an interview, which, if you recall the original definition of the word, meant "having no credibility" or no truth.
Today, the word is often misused to describe something having positive attributes, which confounds me...
Today, the word is often misused to describe something having positive attributes, which confounds me...
Posted by: gourmand du jour, walking, not gonna bust any dance moves tho' at March 12, 2023 10:42 AM (jTmQV)
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My guess is that the Brits put up those doors to save heat. I was in London after college and staying in a house that rented out rooms. You had to put a coin in the stove to get it to work much like coin operated laundrys in a lot of apartment buildings. Had never seen that before.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 12, 2023 10:43 AM (Y+l9t)
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The book of Numbers is also known as Bamidbar , "In the Desert". The book begins and ends with the census. "One counts and recounts that which he cherishes", is how the sages interpret it.
Posted by: runner at March 12, 2023 10:43 AM (V13WU)
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1990's Art Bell was awesome. He built a 500 station radio empire. The alien stuff was all radio drama. High power Tesla stuff aboard US navy vessels doing time-travel experiments. Area 51 drama: some guy calls in while supposedly flying his Cessna over Groom lake - he gets.. shot down?
Posted by: 13times
He made you believe alien existence would be proved any day now.
Posted by: 13times
He made you believe alien existence would be proved any day now.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 12, 2023 10:43 AM (FVME7)
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Just throwing that out there for the big-brain Morons. My own attention span (and color sense) is firmly in the toddler category.
Posted by: mustbequantum at March 12, 2023 10:38 AM (MIKMs)
Theoretically, the tests measure intelligence and not knowledge, so that shouldn't have much of an effect on the result. Unless the lack of knowledge is HOW to work through problems, in which case that's a process problem, not an intelligence problem.
I really don't remember how the tests work, it's been way too long since I've taken one. A real one, I mean. Not the nonsense you find on the internets.
Posted by: mustbequantum at March 12, 2023 10:38 AM (MIKMs)
Theoretically, the tests measure intelligence and not knowledge, so that shouldn't have much of an effect on the result. Unless the lack of knowledge is HOW to work through problems, in which case that's a process problem, not an intelligence problem.
I really don't remember how the tests work, it's been way too long since I've taken one. A real one, I mean. Not the nonsense you find on the internets.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 12, 2023 10:44 AM (M2qSa)
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About 150pgs into The Dragon Bone Chair. Idk. Getting more into it. It's a slow detailed reveal of an elaborate plot. Loooong book. Lots of detail. Lots of ominous foreboding. Fairly interesting characters. Important ppl die early.
I can see why GRR Martin loved it. And how much he took from it.
I'll give it a bit more. But dude let's cut to the chase and ease up on the lollygagging I got places to be and things to do you maniac.
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Stick with Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn. Yes, the first book does tend to drag. Once Simon leaves the Hayholt, it gets a lot more interesting, though. MST is one of my favorite series of all time, right up there with Lord of the Rings in my pantheon of awesome fantasy epics.
I can see why GRR Martin loved it. And how much he took from it.
I'll give it a bit more. But dude let's cut to the chase and ease up on the lollygagging I got places to be and things to do you maniac.
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Stick with Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn. Yes, the first book does tend to drag. Once Simon leaves the Hayholt, it gets a lot more interesting, though. MST is one of my favorite series of all time, right up there with Lord of the Rings in my pantheon of awesome fantasy epics.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 12, 2023 10:44 AM (BpYfr)
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342 I truly wonder if the lack of memorization skills has contributed. A lot of arithmetic/math is memorization; a lot of poetry is memorization; and the lack of the skill seems counter to brain development.
Just throwing that out there for the big-brain Morons. My own attention span (and color sense) is firmly in the toddler category.
Posted by: mustbequantum at March 12, 2023 10:38 AM (MIKMs)
The legendary Millman Perry found that pre-writting socities had almost eidetic memory. This ability collapses with advent of writing. Homer was at the very cusp of such a transition. There is not technical issue with a pre-literate society preserving unaltered an oral text for generations. Both audience and reciter were eidetic.
The loss of memmory is almost instant in the individual who learns to read. Culture wise it is therefore slow.
So, yeah. Social media is a change on the level of learning to read.
Idk if long term isolation will renew the fundamental eidetic human nature.
Just throwing that out there for the big-brain Morons. My own attention span (and color sense) is firmly in the toddler category.
Posted by: mustbequantum at March 12, 2023 10:38 AM (MIKMs)
The legendary Millman Perry found that pre-writting socities had almost eidetic memory. This ability collapses with advent of writing. Homer was at the very cusp of such a transition. There is not technical issue with a pre-literate society preserving unaltered an oral text for generations. Both audience and reciter were eidetic.
The loss of memmory is almost instant in the individual who learns to read. Culture wise it is therefore slow.
So, yeah. Social media is a change on the level of learning to read.
Idk if long term isolation will renew the fundamental eidetic human nature.
Posted by: Thesokorus at March 12, 2023 10:46 AM (1ais2)
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Just throwing that out there for the big-brain Morons. My own attention span (and color sense) is firmly in the toddler category.
Posted by: mustbequantum at March 12, 2023 10:38 AM (MIKMs)
Yes to memorization. The charter school youngest attends had a math presentation before the start of the year. They recommend kids memorize multiplication table from 0 x 0 through 12 x 12. Knowing those makes math easier.
Posted by: mustbequantum at March 12, 2023 10:38 AM (MIKMs)
Yes to memorization. The charter school youngest attends had a math presentation before the start of the year. They recommend kids memorize multiplication table from 0 x 0 through 12 x 12. Knowing those makes math easier.
Posted by: Lord Archmain at March 12, 2023 10:47 AM (Angsy)
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It doesn't help that she's in the last 1/2 of her senior year of high school.......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 12, 2023 10:40 AM (Zz0t1)
In my infinite wisdom, somewhere around the middle of senior year I decided I was done with school, without being done (which wasn't an option). Came damn close to failing several classes.
A bright one, I was.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 12, 2023 10:40 AM (Zz0t1)
In my infinite wisdom, somewhere around the middle of senior year I decided I was done with school, without being done (which wasn't an option). Came damn close to failing several classes.
A bright one, I was.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 12, 2023 10:47 AM (M2qSa)
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Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 12, 2023 10:12 AM (Zz0t1)
You'll be happy to know they are married now.
You'll be happy to know they are married now.
Posted by: polynikes at March 12, 2023 10:48 AM (PlEV5)
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The dialog in the Jesse Stone movies is so natural and clever, it is hard to believe someone wrote it down and these guys had to memorize it to deliver it in such a perfect manner. Reading the book made me realize just how perfect a translation they did from book to screen. Also no need for expensive CGI. Lol
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 12, 2023 10:48 AM (Y+l9t)
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Something that caught my eye during the week was the drop in IQ (no doubt the tests will be 'recalibrated') and I truly wonder if the lack of memorization skills has contributed. A lot of arithmetic/math is memorization; a lot of poetry is memorization; and the lack of the skill seems counter to brain development.
Just throwing that out there for the big-brain Morons. My own attention span (and color sense) is firmly in the toddler category.
Posted by: mustbequantum at March 12, 2023 10:38 AM (MIKMs)
yes. very likely.
Just throwing that out there for the big-brain Morons. My own attention span (and color sense) is firmly in the toddler category.
Posted by: mustbequantum at March 12, 2023 10:38 AM (MIKMs)
yes. very likely.
Posted by: runner at March 12, 2023 10:49 AM (V13WU)
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346 Art Bell would often comment "incredible" after an interview, which, if you recall the original definition of the word, meant "having no credibility" or no truth.
Today, the word is often misused to describe something having positive attributes, which confounds me...
Posted by: gourmand du jour, walking, not gonna bust any dance moves tho' at March 12, 2023 10:42 AM (jTmQV)
And some words go the opposite way. Discriminating for example.
Today, the word is often misused to describe something having positive attributes, which confounds me...
Posted by: gourmand du jour, walking, not gonna bust any dance moves tho' at March 12, 2023 10:42 AM (jTmQV)
And some words go the opposite way. Discriminating for example.
Posted by: JmT at March 12, 2023 10:50 AM (asyrG)
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They teach memorization in the Theater classes where it's okay. In math it's white man supremacy .
Posted by: polynikes at March 12, 2023 10:50 AM (PlEV5)
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Re: lineage
I only learned this recently. But it makes perfect sense. In a land without Law Enforcement. Lineal relationships are crucial. That's who you turn too. Lots of incentive to protect even distant cousins. Runs from powerful to weak and weak to powerful.
I only learned this recently. But it makes perfect sense. In a land without Law Enforcement. Lineal relationships are crucial. That's who you turn too. Lots of incentive to protect even distant cousins. Runs from powerful to weak and weak to powerful.
Posted by: Thesokorus at March 12, 2023 10:51 AM (1ais2)
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The legendary Millman Perry found that pre-writting socities had almost eidetic memory.
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Interesting. How did he establish that ? And, perhaps they had very little to memorize ? Their world was a bit small shall we say ?
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Interesting. How did he establish that ? And, perhaps they had very little to memorize ? Their world was a bit small shall we say ?
Posted by: runner at March 12, 2023 10:52 AM (V13WU)
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It is now clear to me that the Browne Popular Culture Library at Bowling Greene State University has set up an outreach program.
In my garage.
I wonder if I can send them all this cra...errr...all of Mrs D's discards?
In my garage.
I wonder if I can send them all this cra...errr...all of Mrs D's discards?
Posted by: Diogenes at March 12, 2023 10:53 AM (anj39)
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All true but if you believe that Scripture is the divinely inspired Word of G*d, then it's been preserved because it was meant to have meaning through the ages, including to us. And I can't help but think that we're missing a lot of that meaning.
Posted by: Oddbob at March 12, 2023 10:41 AM (nfrXX)
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Alternatively, all religions share the same basic commandment to know their past. If you use the Spiritual World lens, this is because there is only one God, and some laws even demons are bound to observe.
Posted by: Oddbob at March 12, 2023 10:41 AM (nfrXX)
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Alternatively, all religions share the same basic commandment to know their past. If you use the Spiritual World lens, this is because there is only one God, and some laws even demons are bound to observe.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 12, 2023 10:53 AM (llXky)
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Assuming talking other than mass burying
Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2023 10:54 AM (xhxe8)
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Stick with Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn. Yes, the first book does tend to drag. Once Simon leaves the Hayholt, it gets a lot more interesting, though. MST is one of my favorite series of all time, right up there with Lord of the Rings in my pantheon of awesome fantasy epics.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 12, 2023 10:44 AM (BpYfr)
Oooookay. But whew. The detail bro. The detail. And Simon has left the Hayholt and you are right. It did pick up. But my god the detail. Will continue at risk of having life long resentment at this dude if he doesn't get cracking soon. It has all so far seemed unnecessary and almost perverse and toying with the reader for kicks.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 12, 2023 10:44 AM (BpYfr)
Oooookay. But whew. The detail bro. The detail. And Simon has left the Hayholt and you are right. It did pick up. But my god the detail. Will continue at risk of having life long resentment at this dude if he doesn't get cracking soon. It has all so far seemed unnecessary and almost perverse and toying with the reader for kicks.
Posted by: Thesokorus at March 12, 2023 10:55 AM (1ais2)
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Something that caught my eye during the week was the drop in IQ (no doubt the tests will be 'recalibrated') and I truly wonder if the lack of memorization skills has contributed. A lot of arithmetic/math is memorization; a lot of poetry is memorization; and the lack of the skill seems counter to brain development.
Just throwing that out there for the big-brain Morons. My own attention span (and color sense) is firmly in the toddler category.
Posted by: mustbequantum at March 12, 2023 10:38 AM (MIKMs)
Nobody has to remember shit anymore. They don't need to remember how to get somewhere, they got GPS. Don't need to remember phone numbers, because the cellphone stores them all, and on and on and on.
Just throwing that out there for the big-brain Morons. My own attention span (and color sense) is firmly in the toddler category.
Posted by: mustbequantum at March 12, 2023 10:38 AM (MIKMs)
Nobody has to remember shit anymore. They don't need to remember how to get somewhere, they got GPS. Don't need to remember phone numbers, because the cellphone stores them all, and on and on and on.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 12, 2023 10:55 AM (VwHCD)
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You'll be happy to know they are married now.
Posted by: polynikes at March 12, 2023 10:48 AM (PlEV5)
I saw they updated their status in an updated commercial. Good for them. I hope he's learned his lesson and stops poisoning her vajayjay.
You'll be happy to know they are married now.
Posted by: polynikes at March 12, 2023 10:48 AM (PlEV5)
I saw they updated their status in an updated commercial. Good for them. I hope he's learned his lesson and stops poisoning her vajayjay.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 12, 2023 10:57 AM (Zz0t1)
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Thank you kindly, Wolfus! I'd also like to know your professional publication name. In fact, it'd be great if the good Perfessor would give us a column some random Sunday where the Secret Identities of our Moron authors were revealed, and we could go straight to their books. (This doesn't include, say, A.H. Lloyd, who makes it easy for us.)
Here are two of my favorite Holmes crossover novels, both from the indispensable British house Titan Books:
1. Sherlock Holmes: The Breath of God, by Guy Adams. Bar none, the most delightful occult-mystery romp I have ever read, and I've read a metric crap-ton of them. It's bursting with relevant guest stars, both real and fictional: Aleister Crowley, Carnacki the Ghost Finder, John Silence, and many more. The mystery is scary and clever, and the solution perfectly Holmesian!
Here are two of my favorite Holmes crossover novels, both from the indispensable British house Titan Books:
1. Sherlock Holmes: The Breath of God, by Guy Adams. Bar none, the most delightful occult-mystery romp I have ever read, and I've read a metric crap-ton of them. It's bursting with relevant guest stars, both real and fictional: Aleister Crowley, Carnacki the Ghost Finder, John Silence, and many more. The mystery is scary and clever, and the solution perfectly Holmesian!
Posted by: werewife, princess of Delray Beach at March 12, 2023 10:57 AM (SPNTN)
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Interesting. How did he establish that ? And, perhaps they had very little to memorize ? Their world was a bit small shall we say ?
Posted by: runner at March 12, 2023 10:52 AM (V13WU)
Yugo Bards. And no. Epic length very very high quality poems showed little deformation over centuries and btwn bards. Perry died young but he was brilliant.
Posted by: runner at March 12, 2023 10:52 AM (V13WU)
Yugo Bards. And no. Epic length very very high quality poems showed little deformation over centuries and btwn bards. Perry died young but he was brilliant.
Posted by: Thesokorus at March 12, 2023 10:57 AM (1ais2)
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I only learned this recently. But it makes perfect sense. In a land without Law Enforcement. Lineal relationships are crucial. That's who you turn too. Lots of incentive to protect even distant cousins. Runs from powerful to weak and weak to powerful.
Posted by: Thesokorus at March 12, 2023 10:51 AM (1ais2)
Chagnon discovered this studying the Yanomamo...the inter tribal raids were to steal women to produce more relatives to increase social power.
Posted by: Thesokorus at March 12, 2023 10:51 AM (1ais2)
Chagnon discovered this studying the Yanomamo...the inter tribal raids were to steal women to produce more relatives to increase social power.
Posted by: BignJames at March 12, 2023 10:57 AM (AwYPR)
Posted by: Thesokorus at March 12, 2023 10:59 AM (1ais2)
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And:
2. Sherlock Holmes: A Betrayal in Blood, by Mark A. Latham. There have been a number of Holmes/Dracula crossovers, but most of them play in Dracula's supernatural league, not Holmes' rational one. Latham set himself a seemingly impossible task: Holmes and Watson investigate the puzzling question of why would the eminent Dr. van Helsing and his respectable friends murder an eccentric foreign gentleman who only wanted to buy some property in England? Literally EVERY detail of Dracula is refocused and interpreted to make perfect, rational sense. Don't miss it.
2. Sherlock Holmes: A Betrayal in Blood, by Mark A. Latham. There have been a number of Holmes/Dracula crossovers, but most of them play in Dracula's supernatural league, not Holmes' rational one. Latham set himself a seemingly impossible task: Holmes and Watson investigate the puzzling question of why would the eminent Dr. van Helsing and his respectable friends murder an eccentric foreign gentleman who only wanted to buy some property in England? Literally EVERY detail of Dracula is refocused and interpreted to make perfect, rational sense. Don't miss it.
Posted by: werewife, princess of Delray Beach at March 12, 2023 10:59 AM (SPNTN)
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Nobody has to remember shit anymore. They don't need to remember how to get somewhere, they got GPS. Don't need to remember phone numbers, because the cellphone stores them all, and on and on and on.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 12, 2023 10:55 AM (VwHCD)
I remember the old days where you had to pick up the map at the rental car counter when you traveled to a city you'd never been to and having to figure out where the hell you were going before you left the parking lot.
Nobody has to remember shit anymore. They don't need to remember how to get somewhere, they got GPS. Don't need to remember phone numbers, because the cellphone stores them all, and on and on and on.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 12, 2023 10:55 AM (VwHCD)
I remember the old days where you had to pick up the map at the rental car counter when you traveled to a city you'd never been to and having to figure out where the hell you were going before you left the parking lot.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 12, 2023 10:59 AM (Zz0t1)
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There was a frequent guest on Art Bell who was alleged to have been JFK's science advisor (although that turned out to be an exaggeration). Anyway, he was articulate and crazy and highly entertaining.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 12, 2023 11:01 AM (FVME7)
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MThis is one of the seminal articles for me. It's about this. I think about it a lot.
https://www.firstthings.com/article/
2007/06/001-death-politics
Posted by: Thesokorus at March 12, 2023 10:41 AM (1ais2)
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Hey. Thanxs for this. It looks like a good read.
https://www.firstthings.com/article/
2007/06/001-death-politics
Posted by: Thesokorus at March 12, 2023 10:41 AM (1ais2)
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Hey. Thanxs for this. It looks like a good read.
Posted by: Diogenes at March 12, 2023 11:01 AM (anj39)
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How sad. It's that sorrowful part of Sunday. The end of the Book Thread. Thanks for the thread Perfessor.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at March 12, 2023 11:01 AM (Angsy)
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Nobody has to remember shit anymore. They don't need to remember how to get somewhere, they got GPS. Don't need to remember phone numbers, because the cellphone stores them all, and on and on and on.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 12, 2023 10:55 AM
I keep my phone number and my wife's phone number on a crib sheet near the computer. Ask me what my phone number was 40 years ago, or girls I dated back then? Still there.
I think it's about the need to process, vs any intellectual decay. I don't feel the need to process my own phone number so I don't.
Nobody has to remember shit anymore. They don't need to remember how to get somewhere, they got GPS. Don't need to remember phone numbers, because the cellphone stores them all, and on and on and on.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 12, 2023 10:55 AM
I keep my phone number and my wife's phone number on a crib sheet near the computer. Ask me what my phone number was 40 years ago, or girls I dated back then? Still there.
I think it's about the need to process, vs any intellectual decay. I don't feel the need to process my own phone number so I don't.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at March 12, 2023 11:01 AM (enJYY)
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WE HAZ A NOOD
Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2023 11:01 AM (xhxe8)
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They teach memorization in the Theater classes where it's okay. In math it's white man supremacy .
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My concern is that humans are hardwired with the neccessity of memorization for development and higher functioning. Brain food, I guess.
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My concern is that humans are hardwired with the neccessity of memorization for development and higher functioning. Brain food, I guess.
Posted by: mustbequantum at March 12, 2023 11:01 AM (MIKMs)
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I only learned this recently. But it makes perfect sense. In a land without Law Enforcement. Lineal relationships are crucial. That's who you turn too. Lots of incentive to protect even distant cousins. Runs from powerful to weak and weak to powerful.
Posted by: Thesokorus at March 12, 2023 10:51 AM (1ais2)
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Because we are so ethnically fragmented, there also emerged fraternal organizations, who filled the same role.
As law and order break down, look for these networks to re-emerge.
Posted by: Thesokorus at March 12, 2023 10:51 AM (1ais2)
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Because we are so ethnically fragmented, there also emerged fraternal organizations, who filled the same role.
As law and order break down, look for these networks to re-emerge.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 12, 2023 11:01 AM (llXky)
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I remember the old days where you had to pick up the map at the rental car counter when you traveled to a city you'd never been to and having to figure out where the hell you were going before you left the parking lot.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 12, 2023 10:59 AM (Zz0t1)
Thomas Map Book of LA. Fellow map maniacs will know of that which I speak.
I remember the old days where you had to pick up the map at the rental car counter when you traveled to a city you'd never been to and having to figure out where the hell you were going before you left the parking lot.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 12, 2023 10:59 AM (Zz0t1)
Thomas Map Book of LA. Fellow map maniacs will know of that which I speak.
Posted by: Thesokorus at March 12, 2023 11:02 AM (1ais2)
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Speaking of Sherlock, I reread The Hound of the Baskervilles, as grandson wants to read Holmes. It seems appropriate enough. He's also starting to read Tolkien, starting with The Hobbit (I read Roverandom to them in the past). Since they're stuck here, they're adapting. And the food is better.
Posted by: CN at March 12, 2023 11:02 AM (Zzbjj)
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It's that sorrowful part of Sunday. The end of the Book Thread.
But only seven hour 'til the Gun Thread! Let's see if I can do something useful with them besides eat lunch.
But only seven hour 'til the Gun Thread! Let's see if I can do something useful with them besides eat lunch.
Posted by: Oddbob at March 12, 2023 11:03 AM (nfrXX)
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Nobody has to remember shit anymore. They don't need to remember how to get somewhere, they got GPS. Don't need to remember phone numbers, because the cellphone stores them all, and on and on and on.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 12, 2023 10:55 AM (VwHCD)
This is probably the cause, but also
people using their hands to write and manipulate objects is way way down, esp as some parents can't wait to shove an iPad/etc in front of junior's eyes.
There are several studies which show learning and memory is facilitated by using your hands during the process of learning. Not a surprise considering we didn't evolve around screens and computers.
But, also if you look at a "neural homunculus" illustration that shows how much of the brain is wired to various parts of the body, the hands are huge as would be expected and so is the face as would be expected.
If you want to engage your brain to the max...use your hands.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 12, 2023 10:55 AM (VwHCD)
This is probably the cause, but also
people using their hands to write and manipulate objects is way way down, esp as some parents can't wait to shove an iPad/etc in front of junior's eyes.
There are several studies which show learning and memory is facilitated by using your hands during the process of learning. Not a surprise considering we didn't evolve around screens and computers.
But, also if you look at a "neural homunculus" illustration that shows how much of the brain is wired to various parts of the body, the hands are huge as would be expected and so is the face as would be expected.
If you want to engage your brain to the max...use your hands.
Posted by: naturalfake at March 12, 2023 11:03 AM (L1tQx)
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Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 12, 2023 10:26 AM (BpYfr)
It's easier to heat small, closed rooms individually. We can afford to "heat/cool the space, not the person" which gives us a lot more options in design.
It's easier to heat small, closed rooms individually. We can afford to "heat/cool the space, not the person" which gives us a lot more options in design.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at March 12, 2023 11:04 AM (nC+QA)
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Here you go:
Cortical homunculus:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cortical_homunculus
How your brain views your body.
Cortical homunculus:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cortical_homunculus
How your brain views your body.
Posted by: naturalfake at March 12, 2023 11:05 AM (L1tQx)
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Posted by: naturalfake at March 12, 2023 11:03 AM (L1tQx)
I'm teaching the grandsons to memorize and recite. A very useful skill, even today. Also important to memorize addresses and phone numbers, IMO.
I'm teaching the grandsons to memorize and recite. A very useful skill, even today. Also important to memorize addresses and phone numbers, IMO.
Posted by: CN at March 12, 2023 11:05 AM (Zzbjj)
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#384 - you may be on to something, there, using your hands to reinforce what your brain is absorbing. I used to memorize stuff by writing it down, over and over again. I also had a 6th grade teacher who had is memorize stanzas of poetry as part of our homework, and we would recite in chorus. Some of those poems were pretty lengthy - as in Robert Services' "The Cremation of Sam Magee."
Posted by: Sgt. Mom at March 12, 2023 11:14 AM (xnmPy)
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Memorization is important on many levels. I still know multiplication and division tables in my head because of our third grade teacher. She was some ancient creature and could have intimidated Sauron. But, damn, we learned from her.
She conveyed another blessing. She pointed out how different words could derive from earlier common roots. That interest has stayed with me and enriched my reading for over 60 years.
She conveyed another blessing. She pointed out how different words could derive from earlier common roots. That interest has stayed with me and enriched my reading for over 60 years.
Posted by: JTB at March 12, 2023 11:17 AM (7EjX1)
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Greetings, O Book Thread!
In my capacity of author/publisher I get invoices from the various distributors of my works, listing what sold and where. One of them deals with library services like Overdrive. Imagine my surprise to learn one of my books was purchased by ... the Dubai Public Library.
I am now going insane with curiosity. Who decided this? What was their thought process? Will they buy more? Stay tuned to the further adventures of ... DUBAI PUBLIC LIBRARY!!
In my capacity of author/publisher I get invoices from the various distributors of my works, listing what sold and where. One of them deals with library services like Overdrive. Imagine my surprise to learn one of my books was purchased by ... the Dubai Public Library.
I am now going insane with curiosity. Who decided this? What was their thought process? Will they buy more? Stay tuned to the further adventures of ... DUBAI PUBLIC LIBRARY!!
Posted by: Sabrina Chase at March 12, 2023 11:19 AM (O5M9T)
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I am now going insane with curiosity. Who decided this? What was their thought process? Will they buy more? Stay tuned to the further adventures of ... DUBAI PUBLIC LIBRARY!!
Posted by: Sabrina Chase at March 12, 2023 11:19 AM (O5M9T
Congratulations! What fun for you
Posted by: Sabrina Chase at March 12, 2023 11:19 AM (O5M9T
Congratulations! What fun for you
Posted by: CN at March 12, 2023 11:23 AM (Zzbjj)
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I have finished reading Burroughs' Venus (Amtor) series. It is highly entertaining all the way up to the end. The last story was meant to be part of a new cycle, to be collected into a picaresque novel, but now stands alone, so in some sense it is unfinished (and is somewhat less polished than the others but perhaps meant to be more humorous).
There are no mentions of the KKK other than in the first novel, so, if one can stomach that or skip the first novel, the rest of the cycle is strictly better.
There are no mentions of the KKK other than in the first novel, so, if one can stomach that or skip the first novel, the rest of the cycle is strictly better.
Posted by: PG at March 12, 2023 11:32 AM (84jHt)
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343 In ancient societies, lineage was supremely important as it often defined rights and roles.
All true but if you believe that Scripture is the divinely inspired Word of G*d, then it's been preserved because it was meant to have meaning through the ages, including to us. And I can't help but think that we're missing a lot of that meaning.
Posted by: Oddbob at March 12, 2023 10:41 AM
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You are. Every detail of the Pentateuch is analyzed to a fare-the-well in the vast corpus of Torah study that only begins with the Talmud. It looks like a mass of names and numbers, but in and out of context, they point to much more. And every day, rabbinic reputations are made by new insights. And this is done for all of Scripture. It's astonishing what I was taught about the book of Esther in just one week by just one local gentleman!
All true but if you believe that Scripture is the divinely inspired Word of G*d, then it's been preserved because it was meant to have meaning through the ages, including to us. And I can't help but think that we're missing a lot of that meaning.
Posted by: Oddbob at March 12, 2023 10:41 AM
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You are. Every detail of the Pentateuch is analyzed to a fare-the-well in the vast corpus of Torah study that only begins with the Talmud. It looks like a mass of names and numbers, but in and out of context, they point to much more. And every day, rabbinic reputations are made by new insights. And this is done for all of Scripture. It's astonishing what I was taught about the book of Esther in just one week by just one local gentleman!
Posted by: werewife, princess of Delray Beach at March 12, 2023 11:33 AM (SPNTN)
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Finished reading 3 books by Forrest Carter (died in 1979).
The first two books ("Gone to Texas" and "The Vengence Trail of Joesy Wales") formed the basis of the movie "The Outlaw Joey Wales" always a favorite of mine.
The third book was entitled "Watch For Me On the Mountain" and was about the life of Geronimo.
I'm looking a third book by Mr Carter "The Education of Little Tree" .
The first two books ("Gone to Texas" and "The Vengence Trail of Joesy Wales") formed the basis of the movie "The Outlaw Joey Wales" always a favorite of mine.
The third book was entitled "Watch For Me On the Mountain" and was about the life of Geronimo.
I'm looking a third book by Mr Carter "The Education of Little Tree" .
Posted by: The Walking Dude at March 12, 2023 11:44 AM (cCxiu)
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In my youth, I used to read several books a week and now I'm down to a few books a year, if I'm lucky enough. Most of my reading now comes from the internet, so I'm looking to stop that and get back into the physical medium again.
Last week, I picked up The Witching Hour by Anne Rice at the library and read it over the weekend (mostly Sat and Sun). It started alright and there were good parts, but by the end I felt like I'd been cursed to read it. Had to finish, but hated the whole experience, all 1k pages of it.
It's a shame, because while Rice was a terribly good author, she wrote stories that I don't enjoy.
Last week, I picked up The Witching Hour by Anne Rice at the library and read it over the weekend (mostly Sat and Sun). It started alright and there were good parts, but by the end I felt like I'd been cursed to read it. Had to finish, but hated the whole experience, all 1k pages of it.
It's a shame, because while Rice was a terribly good author, she wrote stories that I don't enjoy.
Posted by: soulpile at March 12, 2023 12:32 PM (hiX0r)
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It's a shame, because while Rice was a terribly good author, she wrote stories that I don't enjoy.
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My kid gave me the plot points of that book, basedbof wiki, and it sounds ... yucky.
Posted by: soulpile
My kid gave me the plot points of that book, basedbof wiki, and it sounds ... yucky.
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at March 12, 2023 01:41 PM (fUnHJ)
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“ , what public domain characters do you like to see in stories? What makes them compelling? What kind of weird mashups can you envision? What's the most bizarre or unusual instance of a public domain character you've ever seen?”
Jasper Fforde wrote an entire series where public domain characters play prominent roles. The first was “The Eyre Affair” and introduces the protagonist, Tuesday Next, whose can “jump” into a book and interact with the characters. One of my favorite series, especially if you are familiar with the original books.
Jasper Fforde wrote an entire series where public domain characters play prominent roles. The first was “The Eyre Affair” and introduces the protagonist, Tuesday Next, whose can “jump” into a book and interact with the characters. One of my favorite series, especially if you are familiar with the original books.
Posted by: March Hare at March 12, 2023 03:19 PM (lwrAe)
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Late to the thread, but Friday evening I picked up JL Curtis' (Jim Curtis) first book in his "Grey Man" series, "The Grey Man: -Vignettes-" and polished it off in about a day. It's an enjoyable read starting off in a more relaxed pace, but it quickly shifts gears into "best move your ass" speed once the first major plot development kicks in.
The main character is an older gentleman who has both military and law enforcement experience and is now an investigator for a Sheriff's department in Texas. He, his family, and associates end up getting tangled up in conflicts with the cartels (both drug and human trafficking.) Some of the law enforcement personnel are good guys, some aren't, which adds to the plotlines. Marines are also featured.
This book comes in at 358 pages, and for $1.99 USD or $2.88 CDN for the kindle e-book edition. It's a very good value.
I had previously read two other of Jim's books, "Showdown on the River" and "Ranching in Colorado", both westerns in his "Bell Chronicles" series, and I very much enjoyed those too.
Jim is a member of a group of authors called "The North Texas Troublemakers" and they are definitely worth checking out.
The main character is an older gentleman who has both military and law enforcement experience and is now an investigator for a Sheriff's department in Texas. He, his family, and associates end up getting tangled up in conflicts with the cartels (both drug and human trafficking.) Some of the law enforcement personnel are good guys, some aren't, which adds to the plotlines. Marines are also featured.
This book comes in at 358 pages, and for $1.99 USD or $2.88 CDN for the kindle e-book edition. It's a very good value.
I had previously read two other of Jim's books, "Showdown on the River" and "Ranching in Colorado", both westerns in his "Bell Chronicles" series, and I very much enjoyed those too.
Jim is a member of a group of authors called "The North Texas Troublemakers" and they are definitely worth checking out.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at March 12, 2023 04:01 PM (nRMeC)
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March Hare; if you like the Forde books, try John Myers Myers' "Silverlock" from the late 40s. Myers was a somewhat eccentric writer-western fiction and non-fiction about the Alamo, a bio of Doc Holiday, the Mississippi frontier, some fantasy, etc. Silverlock is a fantasy adventure with a cast of characters from mythology, fantasy, history and general fiction; among the characters he includes are Circe, Brian Boru, you and the other participants in the Mad Hatter's tea party, Robin Hood, Beowulf, The Green Knight, Faust, Hamlet, Becky Sharp, the Houyhnhnms, etc, etc.
He includes several songs in the book, and they used to be a favorite for sing-alongs at SF conventions.
He includes several songs in the book, and they used to be a favorite for sing-alongs at SF conventions.
Posted by: Pope John 20th at March 12, 2023 04:11 PM (cYrkj)
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#399 Pope John—Thanks! I will add Silverlock to my list.
Posted by: March Hare at March 12, 2023 05:06 PM (lwrAe)
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