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Two of the Four Americans Kidnapped in Mexico Have Been Murdered
The media will not cover this. Biden does not want his bloody border covered, and the enemy of the people media complies with Herr President's wishes.
Yes I know that local media will cover it. Anderson Cooper will not. MSNBC will not. The New York Times will give it six paragraphs in the interior pages of its International section (which is already in interior pages).Two of the four Americans kidnapped in Mexico were found dead after they went missing last week, Mexican President Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador said. The American citizens had crossed into Matamoros, south of Brownsville, Texas, in a white minivan with North Carolina plates. Shortly after entering Mexico, unidentified gunmen shot at the passengers of the vehicle and took them into another car, fleeing the scene. The two other citizens were found alive, with one of them injured, Tamaulipas Gov. Americo Villarreal confirmed in a morning news conference with Obrador. The four Americans, Zindell Brown, Eric James Williams, and cousins Latavia "Tay" Washington McGee and Shaeed Woodard, drove down for a medical procedure for McGee but never made it.The White House issued a statement, declaring it "unacceptable" for Mexican drug terrorist gangs to kidnap and murder Americans.
Stephen L. MillerAmerica's not mad, Narcoterrorists. It's just disappointed. As many are saying: This wouldn't have happened under Trump. And if it did happen, there would by God be consequences to make sure this never happened again. But there will be no consequences now. Biden is too busy defending Ukraine's border. No, that undersells it. That makes it sound like he would defend the American border, but just prioritizes Ukraine's. No-- Biden is determined to eradicate the Mexico-US border. This is an unpopular position outside his LULAC/La Raza base, so he just instructs the media to not cover the wide-open-and-bleeding border at all, and they do their duty as Patriots of the Democrat Party.
@redsteeze This admin is talking to a narco drug cartel like it's a 2nd grader.
Here’s the alleged video of 4 Americans being dragged in the street by Mexican cartel members and kidnapped
— DC_Draino (@DC_Draino) March 6, 2023
Why anybody still travels to Mexico is beyond me
Unless they kneeled during the Nat’l Anthem, Joe Biden won’t care about saving them
pic.twitter.com/DNkPyyGEPn
I'm sure the gangs and cartels will behave now. pic.twitter.com/uJw1ACPhDo
— JWF (@JammieWF) March 7, 2023
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: NCKate at March 07, 2023 04:06 PM (d5Qya)
Posted by: artisanal ette at March 07, 2023 04:06 PM (9qHsE)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 07, 2023 04:07 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: Preparing gp For Lazy Loading at March 07, 2023 04:08 PM (MvF+J)
Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at March 07, 2023 04:08 PM (TXFi7)
Posted by: Pete the BootyJudge at March 07, 2023 04:08 PM (S+j2h)
Posted by: Xipe Totec at March 07, 2023 04:08 PM (pohLc)
Posted by: Roy at March 07, 2023 04:08 PM (rqgpJ)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 07, 2023 04:09 PM (E+05M)
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at March 07, 2023 04:09 PM (stlHw)
Small team paints the target and JDAM obliterates the mansion.
Posted by: torabora at March 07, 2023 04:09 PM (iB7US)
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 07, 2023 04:09 PM (tiR3O)
Posted by: The Media, when finally shamed into covering this at March 07, 2023 04:09 PM (0PTCK)
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 07, 2023 04:10 PM (uNylN)
They just got back, both horribly sick from food poisoning for an entire week. vomit and diarrhea They said the worst they have had it.
They think it's a mango or some such crap.
No thanks.
Posted by: artisanal ette at March 07, 2023 04:10 PM (9qHsE)
Small team paints the target and JDAM obliterates the mansion.
Posted by: torabora at March 07, 2023 04:09 PM (iB7US)
Variable, this is Knife ...
Posted by: spindrift at March 07, 2023 04:10 PM (h5TKJ)
Posted by: Xipe Totec at March 07, 2023 04:08 PM (pohLc)
Yeah, I don't get the story...it seems almost like a cover b/c who in their right minds would go to Mexico for a tummy tuck?
Posted by: Nova Local at March 07, 2023 04:11 PM (exHjb)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 07, 2023 04:11 PM (E+05M)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 07, 2023 04:11 PM (e+csY)
Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at March 07, 2023 04:11 PM (TXFi7)
Posted by: Kitchener Lesley at March 07, 2023 04:11 PM (CgQvH)
Posted by: Piper at March 07, 2023 04:12 PM (pmLPe)
They just got back, both horribly sick from food poisoning for an entire week. vomit and diarrhea They said the worst they have had it.
They think it's a mango or some such crap.
No thanks.
Posted by: artisanal ette at March 07, 2023 04:10 PM (9qHsE)
Probably not technically food poisoning, but drinking the water in any form (which you also don't do in Mexico)...
Posted by: Nova Local at March 07, 2023 04:12 PM (exHjb)
Posted by: commissar of plenty and Lysenko solutions at March 07, 2023 04:12 PM (bgWud)
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That's just south of Yuma, rite?
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 07, 2023 04:12 PM (tiR3O)
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 07, 2023 04:09 PM (tiR3O)
I'd really like to see someone do a deep dive on Kari Lakes OPPONENT in the last election. I'd bet you could find a BUNCH of money that could have come from the cartels.
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 07, 2023 04:12 PM (oHd/0)
Posted by: Minnfidel at March 07, 2023 04:12 PM (oE0yX)
I'd prefer we just seal the f***ing border, and tell them you can't come back into the US until the problem is solved.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 07, 2023 04:13 PM (eOEVl)
Posted by: Piper at March 07, 2023 04:13 PM (pmLPe)
Posted by: The CDC at March 07, 2023 04:13 PM (CaJIi)
Posted by: RS at March 07, 2023 04:13 PM (1XDfN)
We'd get our asses kicked. We wouldn't employ the necessarily savage ROE to get it done. Civilian casualties would be horrific. I doubt we have good intelligence on the targets. If cartels are as big as we think they are, they'd counter-attack targets deep in the USA. Not a scenario we ought to wish for.
Posted by: Preparing gp For Lazy Loading at March 07, 2023 04:13 PM (MvF+J)
I came back and ate some Costco roasted chicken and got the trots.
Ate some more and got more trots.
Took me three days to recover.
Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at March 07, 2023 04:13 PM (TXFi7)
Posted by: Wally at March 07, 2023 04:13 PM (FJYfm)
I'd prefer we just seal the f***ing border, and tell them you can't come back into the US until the problem is solved.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 07, 2023 04:13 PM (eOEVl)
That would be my solution...
Posted by: Nova Local at March 07, 2023 04:13 PM (exHjb)
I have no doubt those cartel "gunmen" are also mexican govt employees.
Posted by: Soothsayer, the HQ's Most Respected Commenter at March 07, 2023 04:14 PM (goeJb)
Posted by: Mark1971 at March 07, 2023 04:14 PM (xPl2J)
Posted by: RS at March 07, 2023 04:14 PM (1XDfN)
Posted by: Kitchener Lesley at March 07, 2023 04:14 PM (CgQvH)
Posted by: Nova Local at March 07, 2023 04:12 PM (exHjb)
they are claiming pesticides which made me laugh
the others with them did not eat the mango (or whatever it was) and they did not get sick, but yea, if they washed it, sure. They do seem to know the rules as they have been going for years, so who knows. And they do not travel and lodge cheaply.
Posted by: artisanal ette at March 07, 2023 04:14 PM (9qHsE)
I mean, after all Trump didn't go to Mexico and single-handedly kill all the narco terrorists so its really his fault.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at March 07, 2023 04:14 PM (stlHw)
Posted by: Pudinhead at
Si. Just walk over the border and you're there.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 07, 2023 04:14 PM (E+05M)
Posted by: commissar of plenty and Lysenko solutions at March 07, 2023 04:14 PM (bgWud)
Posted by: Piper at March 07, 2023 04:13 PM (pmLPe)
And you get what you pay for...other countries don't have the safety and security we do, and that does come at a financial cost...
Posted by: Nova Local at March 07, 2023 04:14 PM (exHjb)
Posted by: Piper at March 07, 2023 04:12 PM (pmLPe)
Was that the Maquiladores sector that came about due to NAFTA?
Posted by: Moki at March 07, 2023 04:15 PM (JrN/x)
You mean Riverside and San Diego Counties?
LOL. I laugh.
The Inland Empire? LOL.
Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at March 07, 2023 04:15 PM (TXFi7)
Posted by: Kitchener Lesley at March 07, 2023 04:14 PM (CgQvH)
until we have an administration (and POTUS) that does not encourage drugging our society...
Posted by: artisanal ette at March 07, 2023 04:15 PM (9qHsE)
Posted by: Xipe Totec at March 07, 2023 04:08 PM (pohLc)
Yeah, I don't get the story...it seems almost like a cover b/c who in their right minds would go to Mexico for a tummy tuck?
Posted by: Nova Local at March 07, 2023 04:11 PM
I personally know two women who went to Mexico to get the lap band surgery. It's not uncommon.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 07, 2023 04:15 PM (uNylN)
Posted by: Mark1971 at March 07, 2023 04:14 PM
Ah yes. Senor Pepe's Teeth and Tit Emporium. His prices are Sofa King low!
Posted by: Minnfidel at March 07, 2023 04:15 PM (oE0yX)
Not disappointed enough even to write a sternly worded letter, I suppose.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 07, 2023 04:16 PM (t1FBO)
Posted by: Pudinhead at
Si. Just walk over the border and you're there.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 07, 2023 04:14 PM (E+05M)
I know ppl that go over the border south of AZ for dental care. Nuts.
Posted by: artisanal ette at March 07, 2023 04:16 PM (9qHsE)
Posted by: Preparing gp
Are you high?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 07, 2023 04:16 PM (jzzG8)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 07, 2023 04:16 PM (LvTSG)
Do it now!
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 07, 2023 04:16 PM (loOmN)
I'd prefer we just seal the f***ing border, and tell them you can't come back into the US until the problem is solved.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 07, 2023 04:13 PM (eOEVl)
Well... IMO its more important than the ..... what... 7 or 8 other places in the world we have the Army deployed in combat ops? And definitely more important than Ukraine's border.
You do know we still have combat ops going in Syria, not to mention Uganda, South Sudan, Senegal, Niger, Gabon, Cameroon, Burkina Faso and the Democratic Republic of Congo (7000 troops doing Ops in Africa).
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 07, 2023 04:16 PM (oHd/0)
Wouldn't you rather end up in an American hospital?
Posted by: Pfizer at March 07, 2023 04:16 PM (CaJIi)
Posted by: Sinaloa Cartel at March 07, 2023 04:16 PM (u73oe)
Posted by: Pudinhead at
Si. Just walk over the border and you're there.
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I went there while testing at Yuma. All I could find to buy was a cartoon of American cigarettes. They tasted like shit just like Asian Marlboros. Never went back.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 07, 2023 04:16 PM (tiR3O)
No-- Biden is determined to eradicate the Mexico-US border.
This is an unpopular position outside his LULAC/La Raza base, so he just instructs the media to not cover the wide-open-and-bleeding border at all, and they do their duty as Patriots of the Democrat Party.
And when all those La Raza Dreamers REALLY turn up the murder burner on Black America, you know who's going to be blamed...
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 07, 2023 04:16 PM (n+4am)
Posted by: Dr. Bone at March 07, 2023 04:17 PM (Jg7EG)
Yeah, I don't get the story...it seems almost like a cover b/c who in their right minds would go to Mexico for a tummy tuck?
Posted by: Nova Local
I see commenters here talking about going down there for dental work.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 07, 2023 04:17 PM (63Dwl)
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Medical tourism is a thing. I would never do it but some people will do it. You can get drugs without an RX just walk into a pharmacy and pick it off the shelf and pay for it. So there are a non trivial number of border crossers who go there stock up and come back.
Posted by: Plastic Surgery in Matamoros is like gas station sushi WTF people? at March 07, 2023 04:17 PM (P2/px)
It's called medical tourism. It's risky, but you do save money if you survive. Some countries make it like a luxury vacation. Bumrungrad in Bangkok came highly recommended IIRC.
Posted by: Preparing gp For Lazy Loading at March 07, 2023 04:17 PM (MvF+J)
Posted by: NCKate at March 07, 2023 04:17 PM (d5Qya)
Barbarians always in the end, though. The Cartels are our Visigoths.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 07, 2023 04:17 PM (xcxpd)
Posted by: Whoopie Goldberg at March 07, 2023 04:17 PM (sWM8x)
Posted by: polynikes at March 07, 2023 04:17 PM (Pf9Yk)
Don't knock Mexican dentistry. Clearly superior to British.
And a lot cheaper.
Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at March 07, 2023 04:17 PM (TXFi7)
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at March 07, 2023 04:18 PM (wmDcS)
Yup. Elon is planning a new gigafactory in Monterrey. Sealing our border wouldn't be pain-free for us, although I suppose we could allow goods, but not people, to cross.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 07, 2023 04:18 PM (eOEVl)
Posted by: Piper at March 07, 2023 04:18 PM (pmLPe)
Posted by: Nova Local at March 07, 2023 04:14 PM (exHjb)
You mean like out government approved covid vaxxes?
Posted by: Xipe Totec at March 07, 2023 04:18 PM (pohLc)
Posted by: KJP at March 07, 2023 04:18 PM (Vu7A1)
Posted by: Preparing gp For Lazy Loading at March 07, 2023 04:17 PM (MvF+J)
Yeah, I know all about medical tourism...but this is cartel land, Mexico, not scenic Bermuda...
Posted by: Nova Local at March 07, 2023 04:18 PM (exHjb)
Posted by: Miss Issippi at March 07, 2023 04:18 PM (sI15f)
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Yup. The border is such a problem that I think it needs a huge effort at containment, and one that would likely cause an international incident but so be it.
1 mile of land along the entire border - all within American territory - needs to be annexed with eminent domain. Put a wall right along the border. Build a parallel wall one mile inside US territory. Essentially, build a pale. Then deploy land mines inside that narrow DMZ, along with seismographs to detect tunneling, etc. The only pass-throughs are at formal border crossings. Inspect everything coming through.
It's that or war with Mexico, as near as I can come up with.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 07, 2023 04:18 PM (t0OGg)
Posted by: Sec. Pete! at March 07, 2023 04:18 PM (NgqoH)
Posted by: Corporate and government are probably 90 percent of EV sales at March 07, 2023 04:18 PM (YKthm)
Posted by: Merrick Garland at March 07, 2023 04:18 PM (FJYfm)
Posted by: Piper at March 07, 2023 04:18 PM (pmLPe)
Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at March 07, 2023 04:19 PM (TXFi7)
Posted by: Corporate and government are probably 90 percent of EV sales at March 07, 2023 04:19 PM (YKthm)
Posted by: Skip at March 07, 2023 04:19 PM (xhxe8)
Posted by: dantesed at March 07, 2023 04:19 PM (193FS)
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 07, 2023 04:19 PM (Vwz3I)
Posted by: Miss Issippi at March 07, 2023 04:20 PM (sI15f)
Posted by: SOMEASSHOLESTOLEMYPEN at March 07, 2023 04:20 PM (ytSiK)
Why would they cover the deaths of Americans that chose to travel to a flagged area of Mexico.
I mean, should they?
This reminds me of the young people that travelled to Iran(?) that were killed years back.
Posted by: old chick at March 07, 2023 04:20 PM (sOete)
Posted by: Piper at March 07, 2023 04:20 PM (pmLPe)
Posted by: Corporate and government are probably 90 percent of EV sales at March 07, 2023 04:18 PM (YKthm)
Snitches get stitches - or their house shot up and extended relatives murdered.
Posted by: Heavy Meta at March 07, 2023 04:20 PM (NgqoH)
Posted by: gourmand du jour, semi-mobile quadroped at March 07, 2023 04:20 PM (jTmQV)
Lot of ranches in that area . I don't disagree but accommodations would have to be made.
Posted by: polynikes at March 07, 2023 04:20 PM (Pf9Yk)
Posted by: Jen the original at March 07, 2023 04:21 PM (0yVfc)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 07, 2023 04:21 PM (xcxpd)
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 07, 2023 04:09 PM (tiR3O)
For Biden as well as most of DC. It's also the financial wellspring for political campaigns.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at March 07, 2023 04:21 PM (BdMk6)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 07, 2023 04:21 PM (tkR6S)
Posted by: Piper at March 07, 2023 04:20 PM
I've been to Matomoros. And Juarez. Matamoros looks like Disneyland compared to Juarez.
Posted by: Minnfidel at March 07, 2023 04:21 PM (oE0yX)
Posted by: Nova Local
To include both ice in your drink and 'bottled' water.
My brother saw 'bottled' water containers being refilled from a tap behind a restaurant.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at March 07, 2023 04:21 PM (j0JO3)
Posted by: Preparing gp For Lazy Loading at March 07, 2023 04:17 PM (MvF+J)
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Thailand is well-known for dental tourism. If you need more than 2-3 implants, for example, it can be worth the trip.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 07, 2023 04:21 PM (t0OGg)
Posted by: Preparing gp For Lazy Loading at March 07, 2023 04:17 PM (MvF+J)
After Dobbs, when companies started advertising how they'd pay for a flight to another state and an abortion, my first thought was, "wait until luxury resorts start up 'abortion packages' for a week down on the Mexican riviera..."
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at March 07, 2023 04:21 PM (wmDcS)
Posted by: Piper at March 07, 2023 04:22 PM (pmLPe)
Posted by: Corporate and government are probably 90 percent of EV sales at March 07, 2023 04:18 PM (YKthm)
Snitches get stitches - or their house shot up and extended relatives murdered.
Posted by: Heavy Meta
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It reminded me of gazelles or wildebeasts calmly hanging out at a watering hole as one member of their herd was being devoured 25 yards away.
Posted by: Corporate and government are probably 90 percent of EV sales at March 07, 2023 04:22 PM (YKthm)
It's that or war with Mexico, as near as I can come up with.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 07, 2023 04:18 PM (t0OGg)
Ah but that is beyond the pale
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 07, 2023 04:22 PM (xcxpd)
Just trying to figure out if people are willing to commit to a long, bloody war, because that's what it will be. Apparently you are. Whether we have troops deployed elsewhere is immaterial. It's either a good idea or it isn't.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 07, 2023 04:22 PM (eOEVl)
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I hope the Mexicans didn't get the two cases confused -- that'd be worse than Al Bundy's "circular incision"!
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 07, 2023 04:22 PM (Vwz3I)
Biden, if he were Trump, would go on TV and say for every American killed in Mexico 5 drug cartel bosses will be droned, just like what we did to the Iranian general in Iraq.
Unfortunately, he is not Trump.
He is not even lucid much of the time.
When Trump was president:
# of Russian invasions = 0
# of Americans dead in Mexico = 0
# of Chinese spy balloons overhead = 0
# dollars per gallon of gas = 2 or less
# illegals coming in = way way down
# illegals getting deported = way way up
Posted by: The Man from Athens at March 07, 2023 04:22 PM (vnbvx)
They are so happy to be back. Everything was light and easy.
LOL. They have armed guards at the entrances.
All inclusive.
Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at March 07, 2023 04:22 PM (TXFi7)
Posted by: polynikes at March 07, 2023 04:20 PM (Pf9Yk)
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Yup. The land will have to be purchased, and without skimping on market rate. If it is some non-trivial portion of the entire ranch or parcel, the entire parcel will need to be purchased.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 07, 2023 04:23 PM (t0OGg)
Don't knock Mexican dentistry. Clearly superior to British.
Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse
Damning with faint praise.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 07, 2023 04:23 PM (n+4am)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 07, 2023 04:22 PM (xcxpd)
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Well, it *is* the pale. Mexico is beyond the pale
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 07, 2023 04:23 PM (t0OGg)
Yes, but that's not important right now. We can't even roll up the cartel operators within our own borders, so how do we (effectively) defeat them on their own turf? By effectively, I mean clear victory, not a mess like the last half-dozen wars we chose. The cartels are thoroughly entrenched in the Mexican govt at all levels. You'd have to scorch-earth entire Mexican states.
Posted by: Preparing gp For Lazy Loading at March 07, 2023 04:23 PM (MvF+J)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 07, 2023 04:11 PM (E+05M)
I have gone there several times. But walk in, don't drive.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 07, 2023 04:23 PM (tkR6S)
Posted by: polynikes at March 07, 2023 04:23 PM (Pf9Yk)
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at March 07, 2023 04:21 PM (wmDcS)
Cheap but you will pay extra for a washed coat hanger.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at March 07, 2023 04:23 PM (pohLc)
Your right. We need to demand mexico clear up its cartel and drug problems. This is unacceptable to have Americans getting killed like this. The Mexican government has a lot to answer for.
we need to do better WITH OUR HEALTHCARE so we dont NEED to go to Mexico for it
she was going for a tummy tuck. That is cosmetic and not going to be cheaper in any way in the United States.
Well of course we should do the same. Some cities are working it. Chicago and New York for example.
We need to demand America clear up it's huge gun violence problem. It's unacceptable to have Americans getting killed like this. The American government has a lot to answer for.
Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison at March 07, 2023 04:24 PM (JCZqz)
Posted by: dantesed at March 07, 2023 04:19 PM (193FS)
Nope. Legitimate medical procedures, for the most part. Cheaper, and generally just as good as what you'd find in much of the US. Of course, it helps that prescription drugs are also cheaper and easier to get as well.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at March 07, 2023 04:24 PM (wmDcS)
I recall we bribed a cop to guard our car while we were in the church.
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at March 07, 2023 04:24 PM (BTgKJ)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 07, 2023 04:24 PM (xcxpd)
Posted by: Preparing gp For Lazy Loading at March 07, 2023 04:23 PM (MvF+J)
You say that like there is something wrong with doing that.
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 07, 2023 04:24 PM (oHd/0)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 07, 2023 04:24 PM (E+05M)
Posted by: Archimedes at March 07, 2023 04:13 PM (eOEVl)
Nothing says "the border is sealed" better than a couple of hundred AH-64's, A-10's, and MQ-20's with Hellfires and 30mm autocanons.
Posted by: Marcus Gravey at March 07, 2023 04:24 PM (516e+)
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The cartel and the feds are working together in a symbiotic relationship. As was mentioned in the last thread, everything comes into focus when you begin to accept that most everything is money laundering or payoffs.
The cartels charge $7-10K per head to get the illegals to the U.S., then the U.S. pays the illegals - sorry, "refugees" $80K+ in welfare benefits. The cartels are paid by the feds.
Lather-o, rinse-o, repeat-o
Posted by: Corporate and government are probably 90 percent of EV sales at March 07, 2023 04:24 PM (YKthm)
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So you know shit from Sinaloa! But then all we Morons do.
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 07, 2023 04:25 PM (Vwz3I)
I'd prefer we just seal the f***ing border, and tell them you can't come back into the US until the problem is solved."
We can do both! Declare that there will be a new joint military base a mile wide and the length of the entire southern border, remove all our military personnel from Europe and Africa, and station them there with instructions to shoot all base trespassers on sight!
Posted by: FeatherBlade at March 07, 2023 04:25 PM (84kJS)
Posted by: Xipe Totec at March 07, 2023 04:23 PM (pohLc)
Nah, you'll get an abortion from some American doctor (or a Plan B pill) and spend the next six days lounging on the beach behind walls and security guards.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at March 07, 2023 04:25 PM (wmDcS)
Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison at March 07, 2023 04:24 PM (JCZqz)
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Huh? What on earth does any American violent crime statistic have to do with this? This happened in Mexico and was perpetrated by foreign nationals.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 07, 2023 04:26 PM (t0OGg)
Mexicans are a proud people, and they don't much care for gringos invading their land and telling them what to do. More than that, you're almost guaranteed to get a guerilla war. We're not going to kill a significant fraction of the population, and that's what would be needed.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 07, 2023 04:26 PM (eOEVl)
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 07, 2023 04:26 PM (tiR3O)
NYTimes
"Trump Proposed Launching Missiles Into Mexico to ‘Destroy the Drug Labs,’ Esper Says
It is one of the moments in his upcoming memoir that the former defense secretary described as leaving him all but speechless."
Posted by: Bitcoin Fixes Everything at March 07, 2023 04:26 PM (V6W16)
Posted by: Skip at March 07, 2023 04:26 PM (xhxe8)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 07, 2023 04:21 PM (t0OGg)
Costa Rica too. Well-trained and very inexpensive compared to the US from what I understand from people who've gone there for that purpose.
Posted by: Viable option unless you're really going for the ladyboys at March 07, 2023 04:26 PM (YdDJ9)
You get in ahead of Canadians and the docs are better and your risk of getting murdered is much lower.
Posted by: The Man from Athens at March 07, 2023 04:26 PM (vnbvx)
That said, what I cannot figure out is how or why American citizens still need to go abroad for medical care after many years of Obamacare transforming our system for the better. It's a Scooby Doo mystery.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at March 07, 2023 04:26 PM (ppBhU)
I was talking in addition to allowing the ranches to continue to operate but it would just be on government land.
Posted by: polynikes at March 07, 2023 04:27 PM (Pf9Yk)
"Sure, we'll try that! How hard could it be?"
Is also the response for driving heavy equipment.
Posted by: t-bird at March 07, 2023 04:27 PM (CaJIi)
Having said that the Biden administration must be having cognitive dissonance right now : African Americans killed by drug cartels who seem to have a lot of leverage with the Dems. The African Americans will lose this round of identity politics.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at March 07, 2023 04:27 PM (3f7vf)
I thought we had pretty much come to a consensus that all our intelligence agencies suck canal water. Now all of a sudden they know who's who in the Mexican cartels. Not buying it.
Posted by: Preparing gp For Lazy Loading at March 07, 2023 04:27 PM (MvF+J)
That's sealing the border. Military intervention throughout Mexico is a very different kettle of fish.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 07, 2023 04:27 PM (eOEVl)
Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison at March 07, 2023 04:24 PM (JCZqz)
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Love it.
It's stupidity in its purest form.
It is primo stuff. 99% pure. I could sell that shit for 4 K's per kilo on the street.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 07, 2023 04:27 PM (LvTSG)
Interesting reaction to a story about murders in Mexico.
Posted by: spindrift at March 07, 2023 04:27 PM (h5TKJ)
Lather-o, rinse-o, repeat-o
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It is much easier and more politically expedient to loot your treasury in this manner.
Posted by: Puss In Boots at March 07, 2023 04:27 PM (SaXNw)
One thing that's always bothered me is this... The US has a lot of leverage over the government and the actual government (cartels).
It could do lots of things.
For instance: Now would be a good time for the US State Department to say "we have just banned any wire transfer from the US to Mexico. Your precious remittances will not resume until the leader of the cartel responsible is ripped to shreds by rabid dogs. We want his head and videotape of his physical destruction, so we can broadcast it on pay-per-view. If you would like your economy to still be viable in 30 days, you will comply as fast as you can. Tick tock, tick tock."
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 07, 2023 04:27 PM (oINRc)
Posted by: Muldoon at March 07, 2023 04:28 PM (ykeLU)
Yep. Proud people who tolerate drug gangs telling them what to do.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at March 07, 2023 04:28 PM (pohLc)
NYTimes
"Trump Proposed Launching Missiles Into Mexico to ‘Destroy the Drug Labs,’ Esper Says
It is one of the moments in his upcoming memoir that the former defense secretary described as leaving him all but speechless."
Posted by: Bitcoin Fixes Everything at March 07, 2023 04:26 PM (V6W16)
These assholes have no problem firing cruise missiles against an aspirin factory in Africa, or bombing a village in Pakistan, but are horrified at the idea of killing cartel leaders. Fuck them.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at March 07, 2023 04:28 PM (wmDcS)
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Keith's Son at March 07, 2023 04:28 PM (xPJvm)
You want to go to Thailand for those.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at March 07, 2023 04:28 PM (84kJS)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 07, 2023 04:28 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Plastic Surgery in Matamoros is like gas station sushi WTF people? at March 07, 2023 04:17 PM (P2/px)
Good place to get Hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin in people pills.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 07, 2023 04:28 PM (tkR6S)
Really? Those proud suckers of cock don't seem to have a problem with their uneducated, semi-feral citizens invading our country.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at March 07, 2023 04:29 PM (ppBhU)
Posted by: Archimedes at March 07, 2023 04:22 PM (eOEVl)
there is no perfect world, there is just a balance of risk vs reward. We are already AT War, with multiple other countries... and no one is even paying attention.
I say the Southern border is more important than those other ops... so Yes, it IS part of the question. We are actively fighting Islamists in Africa, who are NO THREAT AT ALL to the US.... while Mexico is killing US Citizens.
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 07, 2023 04:29 PM (oHd/0)
Posted by: Jen
Have you mentioned this to the Canadians coming to the US for heart stents?
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at March 07, 2023 04:29 PM (j0JO3)
Posted by: GanGanowicz at March 07, 2023 04:29 PM (AxRGS)
Trade them some BLM land, get someone on that will actually manage it properly.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at March 07, 2023 04:29 PM (84kJS)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 07, 2023 04:21 PM (t0OGg)
And the babes are hot!
Posted by: The Man from Athens at March 07, 2023 04:29 PM (vnbvx)
You get in ahead of Canadians and the docs are better and your risk of getting murdered is much lower.
Posted by: The Man from Athens at March 07, 2023 04:26 PM
Yes, but you'll wake up covered in maple syrup and you'll have Harry and Megyn as the king and queen! Stay out!
Posted by: Minnfidel at March 07, 2023 04:29 PM (oE0yX)
Quit 5 years ago, got too dangerous then, even more now.
Posted by: wth at March 07, 2023 04:29 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at March 07, 2023 04:28 PM (wmDcS)
Or killing an innocent family in Afghanistan because the Biden Administration had a few bad (but short) news cycles after its botched withdraw from Afghanistan.
Posted by: Thrawn at March 07, 2023 04:29 PM (Rl7KJ)
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 07, 2023 04:29 PM (Vwz3I)
Posted by: spindrift at March 07, 2023 04:29 PM (h5TKJ)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 07, 2023 04:30 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Preparing gp For Lazy Loading at March 07, 2023 04:23 PM (MvF+J)
Go on, I'm listening.
Posted by: Zombie George Patton at March 07, 2023 04:30 PM (Zvtjl)
Posted by: Operation Fast Furious and Fucking Retarded at March 07, 2023 04:30 PM (YdDJ9)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 07, 2023 04:28 PM (LvTSG)
Traditionally, a Mexico incursion is how the US Army shakes off the cobwebs and gives it's officer corps practice before a major conflict. And we're about due for another world war...
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at March 07, 2023 04:30 PM (wmDcS)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 07, 2023 04:28 PM (LvTSG)
Nope, go all way back down to the Canal we built... the Panama Canal. Its our ditch.
Make for a REALLY short border to control.
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 07, 2023 04:30 PM (oHd/0)
Posted by: Elric Blade at March 07, 2023 04:30 PM (YpJSv)
Posted by: Sen Fetterman (D-epressed) at March 07, 2023 04:30 PM (5FPX4)
Mexicans are a proud people, and they don't much care for gringos invading their land and telling them what to do.
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Proud, perhaps. But still people. And people can be killed. Making a whole lot of the right ones get deadified in a hurry would be the right play, here.
But that's from a fantasy I have where America is still a real country.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 07, 2023 04:30 PM (oINRc)
Posted by: Skip at March 07, 2023 04:30 PM (xhxe8)
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 07, 2023 04:30 PM (lTGtQ)
Posted by: old chick at March 07, 2023 04:30 PM (sOete)
Posted by: wth at March 07, 2023 04:31 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: Lady in Black at March 07, 2023 04:31 PM (sVtYq)
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Something something Obamacare has been in full effect for ten years something something.
Posted by: Corporate and government are probably 90 percent of EV sales at March 07, 2023 04:31 PM (YKthm)
Yes, Zombie Patton, our woke gay army can conquer Mexico in a week. It will be a cakewalk. CIA and DIA both assure mission success.
Posted by: Preparing gp For Lazy Loading at March 07, 2023 04:32 PM (MvF+J)
Posted by: Skip at March 07, 2023 04:32 PM (xhxe8)
Posted by: Corporate and government are probably 90 percent of EV sales at March 07, 2023 04:31 PM (YKthm)
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It gave everyone healthcare!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 07, 2023 04:32 PM (LvTSG)
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It may be the only way you can find an English-speaking physician.
Posted by: Muldoon at March 07, 2023 04:33 PM (ykeLU)
Posted by: Preparing gp For Lazy Loading at March 07, 2023 04:23 PM (MvF+J)
I'm okay with this.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at March 07, 2023 04:33 PM (BdMk6)
Seriously, though, all you'd have to do is *threaten* to choke off remittances, and they'd fold like a cheap suit. Without them, Mexico almost instantly collapses.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 07, 2023 04:33 PM (oINRc)
Posted by: Notsothoreau at March 07, 2023 04:33 PM (6lj/r)
You get in ahead of Canadians and the docs are better and your risk of getting murdered is much lower.
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in 1984 private health care was banned in canada. It was challenged in 2005 and the ban narrowly defeated in Quebec. As of 2019 . .
but if a B.C. doctor is caught selling a service that is covered by medicare, they could be fined $10,000 for a first offence if caught.
I actually don't know what the rules are now.
Posted by: O Canada, you are massively screwed up at March 07, 2023 04:33 PM (zy1jR)
Posted by: Lady in Black at March 07, 2023 04:33 PM (sVtYq)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 07, 2023 04:26 PM
I assume it's because Dems blame the US for spreading guns everywhere? Blue states blame Red States for the failures of their gun control policies, and Commie/failed states blame the US for their gun violence (or, at least supply)?
Remember Operation Linebacker! (No, say it in a "Remeber the Alamo" tone in your brain, like a Dem remembering a hard fought victory snatched away by evil Republicans)
Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison at March 07, 2023 04:33 PM (JCZqz)
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 07, 2023 04:34 PM (lTGtQ)
An immediate embargo on all glass votives and churros!
Posted by: Zek at March 07, 2023 04:34 PM (5FPX4)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 07, 2023 04:30 PM (LvTSG)
You're gonna have to fight the US if you want to preserve it.
Posted by: ... at March 07, 2023 04:34 PM (5xEI1)
Remember Operation Linebacker! (No, say it in a "Remeber the Alamo" tone in your brain, like a Dem remembering a hard fought victory snatched away by evil Republicans)
Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison at March 07, 2023 04:33 PM (JCZqz)
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Right, of course.
America is the fount of all evil. I forgot.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 07, 2023 04:34 PM (t0OGg)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at March 07, 2023 04:34 PM (3f7vf)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
Actually. Only 2 of them.
Too soon?
Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at March 07, 2023 04:34 PM (NW9xb)
America is the fount of all evil. I forgot.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 07, 2023 04:34 PM (t0OGg)
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It's all Indiana's fault!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 07, 2023 04:35 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 07, 2023 04:21 PM (t0OGg)
And the babes are hot!
Posted by: The Man from Athens at March 07, 2023 04:29 PM (vnbvx)
Literally true. But also...um...check genitals before paying for a BJ there.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 07, 2023 04:35 PM (bzzlh)
Posted by: Preparing gp For Lazy Loading at March 07, 2023 04:32 PM (MvF+J)
Yeah, but if they invaded with a mariachi band and flamingo dancers, the Cartel will laugh itself to death. See? Eeesy, peesy.
Posted by: Zombie George Patton at March 07, 2023 04:35 PM (Zvtjl)
Seriously, though, all you'd have to do is *threaten* to choke off remittances, and they'd fold like a cheap suit. Without them, Mexico almost instantly collapses.
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Very good point. Then you can also shut their exports off as well. A shit ton of pain if you do both.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 07, 2023 04:35 PM (tiR3O)
Posted by: Jaimo at March 07, 2023 04:35 PM (sOA7y)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 07, 2023 04:35 PM (LvTSG)
We named the dog Indiana.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 07, 2023 04:35 PM (bzzlh)
Posted by: commissar of plenty and Lysenko solutions at March 07, 2023 04:35 PM (bgWud)
Posted by: Preparing gp For Lazy Loading at March 07, 2023 04:36 PM (MvF+J)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 07, 2023 04:35 PM (LvTSG)
We named the dog Indiana.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 07, 2023 04:35 PM (bzzlh)
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I loved that dog...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 07, 2023 04:36 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at March 07, 2023 04:28 PM (wmDcS)
Yup. Honestly, I don't think Trump would start a war with Mexico over Latavia, but you can bet your bippy some cartel would suffer a lot.
Posted by: trev006 at March 07, 2023 04:36 PM (ZHmVq)
Posted by: polynikes at March 07, 2023 04:36 PM (Pf9Yk)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at March 07, 2023 04:34 PM (3f7vf)
A veritable whirlpool of corruption.
Posted by: You can't stop the tide at March 07, 2023 04:36 PM (YdDJ9)
Posted by: Jaimo at March 07, 2023 04:35 PM (sOA7y)
Black v Hispanic violence is reported about as much as Black v Black violence is.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 07, 2023 04:36 PM (bzzlh)
Posted by: Regular joe at March 07, 2023 04:36 PM (nnp+f)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 07, 2023 04:36 PM (E+05M)
Very good point. Then you can also shut their exports off as well. A shit ton of pain if you do both.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 07, 2023 04:35 PM (tiR3O)
Yup.
Embargo petrochemicals? The "government" instantly dies. Embargo remittances? Every last person in the country can't make rent within a month.
Mexico produces nothing but misery, oil and dope.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 07, 2023 04:36 PM (oINRc)
Because buying American is to expensive. We have been taught to ignore our own everything, manufacturing, safety,etc to save a few bucks on a tv.
Posted by: old chick at March 07, 2023 04:36 PM (sOete)
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 07, 2023 04:34 PM (lTGtQ)
What's that joke Peej O'Rourke relates in one of his books?
A Texan and a Mexican are arguing in a bar somewhere along the border.
"Why are you people still so angry?" asks the Texan.
"You stole half our lands, Senior," was the reply. "And not only that, you stole the half with all the roads!"
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at March 07, 2023 04:37 PM (BTgKJ)
Posted by: Preparing gp For Lazy Loading at March 07, 2023 04:36 PM (MvF+J)
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No occupation.
Destroy down to Mexico City. Fortify border at Rio Grande.
Leave polite note on president's desk telling him that this was a warning.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 07, 2023 04:37 PM (LvTSG)
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Buying straight from the manufacturers.
Posted by: Corporate and government are probably 90 percent of EV sales at March 07, 2023 04:37 PM (YKthm)
Posted by: Marlin Perkins at March 07, 2023 04:37 PM (CaJIi)
Posted by: micky at March 07, 2023 04:38 PM (3byMq)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 07, 2023 04:35 PM (LvTSG)
We named the dog Indiana.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 07, 2023 04:35 PM (bzzlh)
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I loved that dog...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 07, 2023 04:36 PM (LvTSG)
And Elsa
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 07, 2023 04:38 PM (bzzlh)
Posted by: Lady in Black at March 07, 2023 04:33 PM (sVtYq)
Heh, I had a college friend who went to Mexico for some other service. Came back with the clap the first time. Went back for seconds and brought back clap and a dose of dysentery that put him in the hospital. Finally learned.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at March 07, 2023 04:38 PM (pohLc)
********
It may be the only way you can find an English-speaking physician.
Posted by: Muldoon at March 07, 2023 04:33 PM (ykeLU)
This would be funnier 20 or so years ago, when it was less true and the foreign ones had impeccable English.
Indian GI guy who is treating me can speak English. But he does not necessarily seem keen on modern medicine. Fine by me, as a lot of what is trendy doesn't seem very well thought out to me. But I can't shake the feeling that this guy would right me a prescription to have a yogi wash me in the Ganges if he could.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at March 07, 2023 04:38 PM (ppBhU)
Posted by: Smell the Glove
It doesn't matter because most of the AZ legislators are lazy worthless cocksuckers.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 07, 2023 04:38 PM (E+05M)
War is an ugly thing but it's not the ugliest of things......
Posted by: polynikes at March 07, 2023 04:38 PM (Pf9Yk)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 07, 2023 04:38 PM (bzzlh)
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Sloppy seconds...ew...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 07, 2023 04:38 PM (LvTSG)
Mexico produces nothing but misery, oil and dope.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice
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Ahem. Excuse me sir, but you have forgotten a critical factor.
Posted by: Tequila at March 07, 2023 04:38 PM (prYTR)
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 07, 2023 04:35 PM (tiR3O)
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Exports would hurt us a lot, too, and put the USMCA at risk, which will embolden Red China since they're the primary damaged party by USMCA.
Not that it should be put out of consideration - *nothing* should be out of consideration - but I would much rather see the remittance tap turned off. My preferred method would be a tax. Any cross-border transfer between the US and any Latin American country that is not in excess of $25,000 is taxed at 75%. The tax goes directly to border wall construction. The big transfers needed by business operations are exempted.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 07, 2023 04:39 PM (t0OGg)
Posted by: polynikes at March 07, 2023 04:38 PM (Pf9Yk)
True
Posted by: Rosa DeLauro at March 07, 2023 04:39 PM (YdDJ9)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice
For the life of me, I do not understand why we allow remittances. It is the lifeblood of illegal aliens. Western Union gave up telegrams years ago, and now make all of their money by wiring remittances of illegal aliens.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 07, 2023 04:39 PM (lTGtQ)
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I've seen more ugliness here than I ever did in Iraq.
Posted by: SMH at living in a Romans 1 world at March 07, 2023 04:39 PM (/hCMk)
I am NOT lazy!
Posted by: K. Sinema (Ex MILF) at March 07, 2023 04:39 PM (5FPX4)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 07, 2023 04:38 PM (bzzlh)
Ah, Venice!
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at March 07, 2023 04:39 PM (BTgKJ)
Mexico City has some fine doctors and nurses. Really, not bad at all, even by American standards. Facilities are lacking though.
Border towns? Not a chance I'd go there for a procedure. But a *lot* of people go there for the pharmacies. If you live near the border you can get your prescriptions for basically nothing.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 07, 2023 04:40 PM (oINRc)
As they'll tell you we've got way too many of those people anyway.
Posted by: 18-1 at March 07, 2023 04:40 PM (lc5cP)
Posted by: Smell the Glove
Lots of smoke; but, no proof of fire.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at March 07, 2023 04:40 PM (j0JO3)
Posted by: SMH at living in a Romans 1 world at March 07, 2023 04:39 PM (/hCMk)
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Come on...Prometheus isn't THAT bad...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 07, 2023 04:40 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: KT at March 07, 2023 04:40 PM (rrtZS)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 07, 2023 04:36 PM (oINRc)
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Not at all. Mexico is one of the fastest-growing industrial economies in the world, and is a major factor in supply chain management. The USMCA is driving even more growth in Mexico, mostly at the expense of Asia this time instead of here.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 07, 2023 04:40 PM (t0OGg)
Posted by: Jaimo at March 07, 2023 04:35 PM (sOA7y)
Since when do they care about black people dying?
Posted by: ... at March 07, 2023 04:40 PM (A8ujC)
Posted by: rhomboid at March 07, 2023 04:40 PM (OTzUX)
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This shall not stand, sir!
- Ted Cruz
Posted by: Corporate and government are probably 90 percent of EV sales at March 07, 2023 04:40 PM (YKthm)
"Why are you people still so angry?" asks the Texan.
"You stole half our lands, Senior," was the reply. "And not only that, you stole the half with all the roads!"
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Charles Portiss variant -
"The US stole one third of my country" says the Mexican.
"Don't feel bad, the US stole all of my country" says the Texan.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 07, 2023 04:40 PM (tiR3O)
Posted by: Minnfidel at March 07, 2023 04:41 PM (oE0yX)
Posted by: rhomboid at March 07, 2023 04:41 PM (OTzUX)
Posted by: Zek at March 07, 2023 04:41 PM (5FPX4)
See? Figured it out all by yourself!
Posted by: The Democrat Party at March 07, 2023 04:41 PM (CaJIi)
https://is.gd/CVfLeS
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 07, 2023 04:41 PM (t0OGg)
Posted by: Elric Blade at March 07, 2023 04:30 PM (YpJSv)
It would not surprise me to learn that the kidnap victims had some link to a rival cartel. Who retails all the junk the cartels ship into America?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 07, 2023 04:41 PM (tkR6S)
Mexico produces nothing but misery, oil and dope.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice
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Do they even produce the dope? At least with fentanyl, the main producer is China. They just launder it through Mexico.
Posted by: Elric Blade at March 07, 2023 04:41 PM (YpJSv)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 07, 2023 04:36 PM (oINRc)
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Not at all. Mexico is one of the fastest-growing industrial economies in the world, and is a major factor in supply chain management. The USMCA is driving even more growth in Mexico, mostly at the expense of Asia this time instead of here.
Beat me to it. See my #70.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 07, 2023 04:42 PM (eOEVl)
Posted by: Jaimo at March 07, 2023 04:35 PM (sOA7y)
I expect there was a meeting held with a bunch of sweaty panicked persens screaming "F*ck you! Shut Up!" and this was the best result they could agree on.
Posted by: Kindltot at March 07, 2023 04:42 PM (xhaym)
So what.
Nobody will care, nothing will change.
America chooses, America declines. Ooopsie!
Posted by: rhomboid at March 07, 2023 04:42 PM (OTzUX)
Oh, there are some reasons...but uh, let's go with "their refugees". What do you mean it makes no sense refugees travel and send money back to where they are supposedly fleeing from.
One second
/Maria don't give Conner any more chicken nuggets. He's had enough
Where were we again? Maria? Oh yes she's a refugee from. Uh. Somewhere down there.
Posted by: Some CoC talking head at March 07, 2023 04:42 PM (lc5cP)
I just do not understand where you guys are coming from. I'll shut up now.
Posted by: Preparing gp For Lazy Loading at March 07, 2023 04:42 PM (MvF+J)
"The US stole one third of my country" says the Mexican.
"Don't feel bad, the US stole all of my country" says the Texan.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 07, 2023 04:40 PM (tiR3O)
Gold star for the Portis reference!
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at March 07, 2023 04:42 PM (BTgKJ)
==
So, have you heard of this thing called the internet?
Posted by: How can I get money into someone elses hands without using Western Union at March 07, 2023 04:42 PM (sSZx0)
https://is.gd/CVfLeS
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 07, 2023 04:41 PM (t0OGg)
Tropical hourglass...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 07, 2023 04:43 PM (bzzlh)
Posted by: Joe Mannix
Yes, in the future, Mexico will be a very important supplier for the US, when the global supply chain is gone, but unless the cartels are shut down now, the corruption one sees in Asia is nothing like we would see in Mexico, and it can strangle that baby in the crib.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 07, 2023 04:43 PM (lTGtQ)
The media IS all over it. Ace was wrong.
Posted by: Preparing gp For Lazy Loading at March 07, 2023 04:43 PM (MvF+J)
According to Peter Zeihan (although I find this a bit hard to believe), Mexican workers cost 1/3 of Chinese workers, and have a higher skill set.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 07, 2023 04:43 PM (eOEVl)
Alas, I'm a racist and "This Isn't Who We Are!", so the invasion and carnage will continue until the cartels are holding public assassinations on Capitol grounds M-F, 9:00 to 5:00, as theater.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at March 07, 2023 04:43 PM (aXxgO)
Posted by: Corporate and government are probably 90 percent of EV sales at March 07, 2023 04:44 PM (YKthm)
This needless tragedy illustrates why we need single-payer healthcare here in America!
Posted by: DNC getting its talking points in order at March 07, 2023 04:44 PM (t4BDZ)
Posted by: Bobblehead Joe and Fentanyl Mitch at March 07, 2023 04:44 PM (2hexI)
Too soon?
Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at March 07, 2023 04:34 PM (NW9xb)
No, all four. The graveyard vote.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 07, 2023 04:44 PM (tkR6S)
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Yeah. Stacey Abrams would be in a burqa for TV and live appearances in Iraq.
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 07, 2023 04:44 PM (Vwz3I)
Posted by: Corporate and government are probably 90 percent of EV sales at March 07, 2023 04:44 PM (YKthm)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice a
They have hot weather girls.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 07, 2023 04:45 PM (E+05M)
Posted by: Preparing gp For Lazy Loading at March 07, 2023 04:36 PM (MvF+J)
Nope. Once we're done burning it down, we leave and let them rebuild for the next 20 years. If they become uppity after that, then we go in and burn it to the ground again.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at March 07, 2023 04:45 PM (BdMk6)
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 07, 2023 04:45 PM (tiR3O)
Was it a Tom Clancy novel where an f-117 dropped a low metallic signature " paper mache " bomb on a drug cartel compound? Just sayin...
Posted by: Shoot now, fuck the questions. at March 07, 2023 04:45 PM (IPHPq)
Heat's off now.
But you can't have idiotic airhead suburban "moderate" GOP voters get upset about "children in cages"!!!!! Seems to me the country's OK with the trade-off here.
Posted by: rhomboid at March 07, 2023 04:45 PM (OTzUX)
Posted by: Zek at March 07, 2023 04:45 PM (5FPX4)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 07, 2023 04:45 PM
And their soap stars? Eyeyeyeyeyey.. Caliente!
Posted by: Minnfidel at March 07, 2023 04:46 PM (oE0yX)
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 07, 2023 04:43 PM (lTGtQ)
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It is a massive future risk, yes. But it is also a tremendous opportunity. It all hinges on whether Mexico can remain a functional country with a functional government. There's a reason so much of the industrial development is not right next to the border. A lot of it is, but there's plenty that's further afield because it's easier to run things there. The cartels more or or less own border regions at this point. A failure of Mexico will be a significant risk to industrial chains in this hemisphere.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 07, 2023 04:46 PM (t0OGg)
https://is.gd/CVfLeS
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not
She needs to have sun tan lotion applied.
Posted by: That Northern skulker at March 07, 2023 04:46 PM (VdGjU)
Posted by: Miklos, reconciled to his Fate at March 07, 2023 04:46 PM (2hexI)
Not at all. Mexico is one of the fastest-growing industrial economies in the world, and is a major factor in supply chain management. The USMCA is driving even more growth in Mexico, mostly at the expense of Asia this time instead of here.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 07, 2023 04:40 PM (t0OGg)
I know. I exaggerate. Somewhat. But remittances and oil exports are probably north of 10% of Mexican GDP. And given that most of the rest is stolen by the authorities and the gangsters, the average Mexican jagoff is very dependent on the remittances.
The US can instantly ruin the social order of Mexico (such as it exists) at any time it desires. It just doesn't desire to.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 07, 2023 04:46 PM (oINRc)
Posted by: polynikes at March 07, 2023 04:46 PM (Pf9Yk)
Posted by: Nova Local at March 07, 2023 04:47 PM (exHjb)
Posted by: Zek at March 07, 2023 04:45 PM
Would they settle for the 10% the big guy usually gets? Or are we talking Hunter's 50% "rent" here.
Posted by: Minnfidel at March 07, 2023 04:47 PM (oE0yX)
Posted by: Zek
I think that is exactly how we got where we are now.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 07, 2023 04:47 PM (lTGtQ)
Posted by: polynikes at March 07, 2023 04:46 PM (Pf9Yk)
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Most illegal immigrants these days are from Central America, not Mexico.
One of the most effective things Trump did was convince Mexico to secure it's own southern border. Mexico doesn't do that anymore.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 07, 2023 04:47 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at March 07, 2023 04:43 PM (aXxgO)
They are funding a lot of state governments right now, using state agencies and licensing for real estate to launder money through real estate transactions.
The people who are supposed to be monitoring this are getting a fair share of the profits.
There is no way the Feds are not involved.
Posted by: Kindltot at March 07, 2023 04:47 PM (xhaym)
I assume because we pay a lot more, but in fact, Mexico is no longer a source of labor. The illegals now come from Central America and elsewhere.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 07, 2023 04:48 PM (eOEVl)
Posted by: Biden's next uncomfortable joke at March 07, 2023 04:48 PM (5FPX4)
In the 90s my employer had a maquiadora plant in Matamoros, employing 2500 people mostly women. The plant was in an industrial park on the edge of the city, and the neighboring plants were mostly making shit for Detroit, steering wheels, radios, inside specialties. Maybe fifteen large plants in all.
Posted by: Mr Gaga at March 07, 2023 04:48 PM (KiBMU)
Posted by: Archimedes at March 07, 2023 04:43 PM (eOEVl)
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It depends on where you are in the industrial chain. Mexico does fairly high-value work, and high-value work is expensive. Mexican factory works aren't painting cheap plastic toys, they're building cars and machinery and electronics. And in some of those high-value spaces, Mexicans (who are competent but comparatively inexperienced) can be cheaper than Chinese.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 07, 2023 04:48 PM (t0OGg)
Posted by: 18-1 at March 07, 2023 04:48 PM (lc5cP)
I'd rent a car at the Harlingen airport and make sure it could be driven into Mexico, and go in mornings and out after work. Sometimes I'd go into Matamoros at night with our local guy, white guy from Purdue, who was totally fluent and had married a wealthy Mexican princess whose family owned big businesses down in Monterrey.
It was safe then, as long as you stayed in the markets and restaurants in the downtown, near the international bridge. I took an engineer that worked for me once, guy from Vietnam, had been in a communist prison camp as a little kid after the VC took over, Matamoros's outer ring of mean streets and 3rd world poverty looked familiar to him, so we wandered out a little. Never out of the city though. You could get disappeared by the thugs.
Posted by: Mr Gaga at March 07, 2023 04:48 PM (KiBMU)
Posted by: eleven at March 07, 2023 04:49 PM (t4fCu)
Posted by: Miklos, reconciled to his Fate at March 07, 2023 04:46 PM (2hexI)
If I'm going to be ruled, I say we should be ruled by the hottest.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 07, 2023 04:49 PM (bzzlh)
Posted by: polynikes at March 07, 2023 04:46 PM (Pf9Yk)
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Most of the illegals nowadays come from various points south and transit through Mexico rather than originating there.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 07, 2023 04:49 PM (t0OGg)
Then carpet bomb it. Every square mile.
And every time something like this happened...the zone extends another five miles.
Posted by: Brother Tim, still the worst commenter on the blog at March 07, 2023 04:49 PM (OUMaO)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 07, 2023 04:38 PM (bzzlh)
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Sloppy seconds...ew...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 07, 2023 04:38 PM
Sloppy seconds from your father...is that better, or worse? We should ask Hunter and Joe.
Posted by: Moron Philosopher at March 07, 2023 04:49 PM (JCZqz)
Mexico has a say in our justice system?
4 Americans in Mexico ....
Posted by: old chick at March 07, 2023 04:49 PM (sOete)
Posted by: Shoot now, fuck the questions. at March 07, 2023 04:45 PM (IPHPq)
But it was in Colombia.
Posted by: Kindltot at March 07, 2023 04:50 PM (xhaym)
Posted by: Muldoon at March 07, 2023 04:50 PM (ykeLU)
Posted by: polynikes
The illegals coming into the US are from farther south than Mexico. Also, far less educated. They are allowed to cross Mexico as long as they don't remain. Mexico does not allow illegal immigrants to remain in the country.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 07, 2023 04:50 PM (lTGtQ)
Posted by: eleven
We thought the airbrushed wolves on the side would keep us Safe.
Posted by: Medical Tourists listening to Los Lobos at March 07, 2023 04:50 PM (2hexI)
Mitch McConnell lashed out at Speaker McCarthy for giving Tucker Carlson access to the footage.
McConnell also said it was a “mistake” for Tucker Carlson to show the footage.
Ass cancer > Mitch McConnell
Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 07, 2023 04:50 PM (E+05M)
Posted by: Skip at March 07, 2023 04:50 PM (xhxe8)
KJP simple went to the binder and reeled-off a stream of talking point BS about how much Joe ahs done to secure the border, such as Joe hiring lots more border agents, the FBI working hard with Mexican officials, and blah, blah, blah. Sickening.
Posted by: Gref at March 07, 2023 04:51 PM (AMIL/)
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 07, 2023 04:50 PM (lTGtQ)
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On of the reasons why "remain in Mexico" was a good policy. With that in place, the Mexicans have mucho grande incentive to control their own southern border.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 07, 2023 04:51 PM (t0OGg)
Posted by: polynikes
The Dems and NGOs are bringing Central Americans through MX to the US.
That is the reason Trump said all 'refugees' should stop in MX and apply for asylum there because that is what International Law says refugees should do...
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at March 07, 2023 04:51 PM (j0JO3)
Posted by: Skip at March 07, 2023 04:52 PM (xhxe8)
Posted by: polynikes at March 07, 2023 04:52 PM (Pf9Yk)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 07, 2023 04:52 PM (bzzlh)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 07, 2023 04:50 PM
Carrots in chili>toenail fungus>ass cancer>Mitch McConnell.
Posted by: Minnfidel at March 07, 2023 04:53 PM (oE0yX)
Posted by: Muldoon at March 07, 2023 04:53 PM (ykeLU)
Posted by: Gref at March 07, 2023 04:51 PM (AMIL/)
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Is the border secure?
You can see here we've increased BP headcount.
But is the border secure?
You can see here that we're cooperating with Mexican LE.
But is the border secure?
You can see these forms filled out in every particular ...
But is the border secure?
Just keep hammering her on it. It won't matter, but at least she might squirm.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 07, 2023 04:53 PM (t0OGg)
Dude...it's an open question whether we can remain a functional country with a functional government.
Posted by: Brother Tim, still the worst commenter on the blog at March 07, 2023 04:53 PM (OUMaO)
My friend and his live In Colombian girlfriend plan on moving to Puerto Vallarta in June 2024. He's clueless and won't listen.
Posted by: polynikes at March 07, 2023 04:52 PM (Pf9Yk)
Eh... FWIW, Vallarta is still ok. For now. But no, I would not move there. That could change on a dime.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 07, 2023 04:53 PM (oINRc)
Posted by: rhomboid at March 07, 2023 04:53 PM (OTzUX)
Posted by: polynikes at March 07, 2023 04:46 PM (Pf9Yk)
Pretty sure that most of the current wave of illegals are not Mexican nationals, but passers-through.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 07, 2023 04:53 PM (tkR6S)
Time for us to call in that marker for giving you guys a free hand down on the border. Set up a diversion that will implicate and setup one of you for elimination in order to keep the focus OUT of DC and on YOU for awhile..
Thanks for the 10 percent, and happy smuggling.
Yours,
The Big Guy
Posted by: FJB at March 07, 2023 04:53 PM (WmGrA)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
The Ukrainian Young Ladies' Auxiliary needs some Training.
Like out back
Posted by: Mano a Mano Miklos at March 07, 2023 04:53 PM (2hexI)
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Now you tell me.
Posted by: Hillary! at March 07, 2023 04:53 PM (65cXp)
Posted by: Muldoon at March 07, 2023 04:53 PM (ykeLU)
Posted by: Brother Tim, still the worst commenter on the blog at March 07, 2023 04:53 PM (OUMaO)
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Yup.
Risks abound.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 07, 2023 04:53 PM (t0OGg)
Posted by: PJ at March 07, 2023 04:54 PM (G1dq6)
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 07, 2023 04:54 PM (Vwz3I)
Posted by: SMH at living in a Romans 1 world at March 07, 2023 04:54 PM (/hCMk)
Posted by: william ferrin at March 07, 2023 04:54 PM (04220)
Posted by: polynikes at March 07, 2023 04:54 PM (Pf9Yk)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice
Di me!
Posted by: Hispanohablante Miklos at March 07, 2023 04:54 PM (2hexI)
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 07, 2023 04:50 PM (lTGtQ)
++++
On of the reasons why "remain in Mexico" was a good policy. With that in place, the Mexicans have mucho grande incentive to control their own southern border.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 07, 2023 04:51 PM
This, so much this. And the SA invaders got treated like dirt in MX. They didn't get money, food, clothes, they were told to GTFO and keep walking north.
Posted by: Minnfidel at March 07, 2023 04:55 PM (oE0yX)
Posted by: Marcus T at March 07, 2023 04:55 PM (8Voqu)
Mitch McConnell lashed out at Speaker McCarthy for giving Tucker Carlson access to the footage.
McConnell also said it was a “mistake” for Tucker Carlson to show the footage.
That statement is terrifying. He has no understanding of Western Civilization and the principles of the rule of law and rights.
Destroying rights is better than messing his hair.
Posted by: That Northern skulker at March 07, 2023 04:55 PM (VdGjU)
Posted by: polynikes
That is correct, not for something like 20 years.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 07, 2023 04:55 PM (lTGtQ)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice
You need to look up the latest news and travel warnings.
Posted by: polynikes at March 07, 2023 04:56 PM (Pf9Yk)
Everything else is lost.
We will soon experience things that should only be read about in history books.
Posted by: I've got bad news for you at March 07, 2023 04:56 PM (5EOzM)
The TJ maquiladora has a fair amount of higher-end manufacturing and assembly, electronics, medical tech. And the "security situation" is much better than in many other border towns, probably the best in fact of the major places. Lots of factors go into that.
Posted by: rhomboid at March 07, 2023 04:53 PM (OTzUX)
Yeah, the maquiladoras are the key "real" industrial sector of the Mexican economy. And a huge portion of that is American owned and/or operated, and our markets are their main customer. It's another place where we could righteously fuck them up. Their fake-ass economy is an appendage of ours. All they are is slave labor.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 07, 2023 04:56 PM (oINRc)
Posted by: Brother Tim
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We're going to need a time machine set to before the Soviet Union fell and Our Betters needed to justify their salaries so they decided to look inwards.
Posted by: Corporate and government are probably 90 percent of EV sales at March 07, 2023 04:56 PM (YKthm)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice
So
There are maybe two (2) people who have been to Puerto Vallarta without winning the trip on a 70s game Show.
Posted by: Miklos might be the Other at March 07, 2023 04:57 PM (2hexI)
SOP. Never let yourself be moved to another location. The first location - as bad as it might be - is always better than any other to make your stand.
That goes in a narcostate as well as any American Blue state. The criminal is trying to optimize his situation, not yours.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at March 07, 2023 04:57 PM (aXxgO)
Posted by: william ferrin"
Yes.
Posted by: fd at March 07, 2023 04:57 PM (iayUP)
The easiest answer is just build the wall, ship the illegals home, and let Mexico go to hell.
That's "racist" of course so we'll probably be at war in Biden's second term to "save Mexican democracy" once the cartels get uppity and stop paying the Democrats.
Posted by: 18-1 at March 07, 2023 04:57 PM (lc5cP)
Posted by: william ferrin at March 07, 2023 04:54 PM (04220)
I would rate this allegation, creditable.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at March 07, 2023 04:57 PM (pohLc)
????
Posted by: Thanatopsis at March 07, 2023 04:58 PM (xdTJW)
Posted by: Right? at March 07, 2023 04:58 PM (UI1V1)
Posted by: polynikes
Most? No. Many, yes.
Hattians, Chinese, Middle East, Jihadist.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at March 07, 2023 04:58 PM (j0JO3)
Posted by: polynikes at March 07, 2023 04:56 PM (Pf9Yk)
Worse every day. I have a friend who lives there with his family. He tells me I should move there from time to time.
Nah, bruh.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 07, 2023 04:58 PM (oINRc)
Posted by: Minnfidel at March 07, 2023 04:58 PM (oE0yX)
Posted by: clutch cargo | now with 100% autocorrect. at March 07, 2023 04:58 PM (zB/T/)
Posted by: fd at March 07, 2023 04:59 PM (iayUP)
Posted by: SMH at living in a Romans 1 world at March 07, 2023 04:59 PM (/hCMk)
Posted by: It's me donna at March 07, 2023 04:59 PM (bs+z0)
And Trump's approach was comprehensive (heh). He arm-twisted all the Central American players pretty hard, and effectively, and combined with the remain-in-Mexico flourish, the growing barrier installation, and sadly only small changes in water temperature on intern enforcement, the flow slowed to a trickle.
But America said f**k that. So here you are.
Posted by: rhomboid at March 07, 2023 04:59 PM (OTzUX)
SOP. Never let yourself be moved to another location. The first location - as bad as it might be - is always better than any other to make your stand.
One of the cartels...LZ maybe?...was specializing in putting out videos of them killing their enemies with chain saws. You don't get killed with a chain saw on the street - you get killed that way in a second location...
Posted by: 18-1 at March 07, 2023 04:59 PM (lc5cP)
Posted by: Minnfidel at March 07, 2023 04:59 PM (oE0yX)
Posted by: Zek at March 07, 2023 05:00 PM (5FPX4)
Posted by: Piper at March 07, 2023 05:00 PM (pmLPe)
Diversity hire says enough!
Posted by: micky at March 07, 2023 05:00 PM (3byMq)
Posted by: Marcus T at March 07, 2023 05:01 PM (8Voqu)
Posted by: fd at March 07, 2023 05:01 PM (iayUP)
Posted by: polynikes at March 07, 2023 05:01 PM (Pf9Yk)
Posted by: rhomboid at March 07, 2023 05:01 PM (OTzUX)
Posted by: Minnfidel
Tooth whitening fungus
Posted by: Miklosian Anti-Marketing SA de CV at March 07, 2023 05:01 PM (2hexI)
Posted by: fd at March 07, 2023 05:01 PM (iayUP)
????
Posted by: Thanatopsis at March 07, 2023 04:58 PM
Well he said pot able. See he wasn't lying. Si, put it in the pot, she how you say pot able.
Posted by: Minnfidel at March 07, 2023 05:02 PM (oE0yX)
Posted by: Minnfidel
Related to the troll that keeps talking about bad breath?
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at March 07, 2023 05:02 PM (j0JO3)
*******
Yeah, that's definitely a possibility. But if they were from South Carolina, they were mules, not buying for personal consumption. In which case they run the risk of getting detected when they re-enter the country. Who knows?
Posted by: Muldoon at March 07, 2023 05:02 PM (ykeLU)
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Mine are all for butt tucks! Men's.
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 07, 2023 05:03 PM (Vwz3I)
Posted by: william ferrin at March 07, 2023 04:54 PM (04220)
This is what I'm thinking also. It's business.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at March 07, 2023 05:03 PM (BdMk6)
Posted by: 18-1
No kidnapper ever thought "Hey, lets move these people to someplace where they have better odds against us"
Posted by: Captain obvious at March 07, 2023 05:03 PM (Gmx/k)
Posted by: Ben Had at March 07, 2023 05:03 PM (KYv+u)
Take a good look at San Diego, Brownsville, and El Paso.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at March 07, 2023 05:04 PM (Wl6Ns)
Posted by: SMH at living in a Romans 1 world at March 07, 2023 05:04 PM (/hCMk)
Airline friends who've really exploited their company's Mexican itineraries over the years say Mazatlan, one of their old favorites, is gone. Airline discontinued overnights, then flights altogether (I think that's right).
Posted by: rhomboid at March 07, 2023 05:04 PM (OTzUX)
Posted by: fd at March 07, 2023 05:04 PM (iayUP)
Posted by: Miklos clicks on all web ads at March 07, 2023 05:04 PM (2hexI)
Posted by: polynikes
Yes, Mexicans are probably the majority of total illegals to have ever snuck into the US, but for at least the last 20 years, far more Central Americans have been crossing the border. Now, add in all of the Chinese, Caribbean, and Africans coming across through Mexico over the past two years.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 07, 2023 05:05 PM (lTGtQ)
This is what I'm thinking also. It's business.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at March 07, 2023 05:03 PM (BdMk6)
I though of that, but I'm not so sure. Why kidnap? Gun them down, mail their heads to their people, let them know they're next unless the tab is paid. That's more the cartel way of handling bad deals.
But kidnap is a pretty good sector for them too. Just not usually Americans.
Who knows?
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 07, 2023 05:05 PM (oINRc)
Posted by: Muldoon
NORTH CAROLINA plates on the car.
NORTH
Posted by: Miklosius Caroliniensis at March 07, 2023 05:06 PM (2hexI)
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at March 07, 2023 05:06 PM (8mB4q)
This is correct. The biggest problem is that they're also embeded deep within our cities as well. The violence of actually taking on the Cartels would be astronomical and they wouldn't just target police or government they'd target critical infrastructure like water, power, sewer and so on. It'd be absolutely crazy.
Posted by: Jack at March 07, 2023 05:06 PM (dNBkF)
Posted by: Ben Had at March 07, 2023 05:06 PM (KYv+u)
Posted by: 18-1
No kidnapper ever thought "Hey, lets move these people to someplace where they have better odds against us"
Posted by: Captain obvious at March 07, 2023 05:03 PM (Gmx/k)
TBH I don't think it matters anymore. Just like cameras don't make a shit bit of difference. Every one of these lowlifes are operating out in the open, since nobody is going to do anything about it. So running after some Americans with a running chainsaw on the calle would probably attract no attention, other than people closing their doors and windows.
Posted by: clutch cargo | now with 100% autocorrect. at March 07, 2023 05:06 PM (zB/T/)
Posted by: Eromero at March 07, 2023 05:06 PM (MF3yS)
Posted by: SMH at living in a Romans 1 world at March 07, 2023 05:07 PM (/hCMk)
Posted by: fd at March 07, 2023 05:07 PM (iayUP)
The "foreign country" feeling I get here is entirely based on Americans, not immigrants or illegals.
Posted by: rhomboid at March 07, 2023 05:07 PM (OTzUX)
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Heck, if that's the case the chances are good they're originally from Mejico.
Posted by: Corporate and government are probably 90 percent of EV sales at March 07, 2023 05:07 PM (YKthm)
Posted by: Miklosian Happy Hourings at March 07, 2023 05:07 PM (2hexI)
Posted by: Piper at March 07, 2023 05:07 PM (pmLPe)
It seems very likely this little trip south of the border for a "tummy tuck" was planned and financed by the CIA.
The CIA tips the cartels that drug dealers are coming, the cartels protect their business, and Lindsay Gheywad gets to pass a pre-written bill that erodes Mexico's sovereignty.
Posted by: Oschisms at March 07, 2023 05:08 PM (0A5+1)
Posted by: PJ at March 07, 2023 05:08 PM (G1dq6)
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This^
Posted by: SMH at living in a Romans 1 world at March 07, 2023 05:08 PM (9KRwM)
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at March 07, 2023 05:08 PM (8mB4q)
No last year about 40% of the border patrol contacts were with Mexican nationals. The remaining were split among other Central American countries and others.
The original point of my comment was if Mexico was turning into an industrial center why so many illegal Mexican nationals coming here to look for work .
Posted by: polynikes at March 07, 2023 05:08 PM (Pf9Yk)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 07, 2023 04:40 PM
Come now, Sir! Such calumny about the second greatest movie ever is unseemly, and not who we are!
Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 07, 2023 05:08 PM (a3Q+t)
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That's what's so disturbing about the video of them loading the still-alive folks into the back of the truck. They didn't care at all. I'm certain they could've shot them (or cut their heads off) right there and no one would've responded any differently.
Posted by: Corporate and government are probably 90 percent of EV sales at March 07, 2023 05:08 PM (YKthm)
https://tinyurl.com/2t49rw5d
Posted by: SMH
Allentown?? Roanoke?? Proximity to the Interstate? Not getting those cities. The interstate is the only thing that makes sense. Interesting that Western PA and Ohio aren't represented. Those used to be big Mafia territories.
Posted by: Puddleglum at March 07, 2023 05:08 PM (sAmhv)
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 07, 2023 05:03 PM
Has Bootyjudge heard about this?
Posted by: Minnfidel at March 07, 2023 05:09 PM (oE0yX)
House Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) received an ethics complaint from a watchdog group which accused the speaker of acting in a politically motivated way when he released Jan. 6 footage to Tucker Carlson.
Posted by: Fool Otto at March 07, 2023 05:09 PM (DB16e)
Posted by: fd at March 07, 2023 05:04 PM (iayUP)
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Tummy tuck bandages can hide a lot of contraband.
Posted by: Oschisms at March 07, 2023 05:09 PM (0A5+1)
NORTH
Posted by: Miklosius Caroliniensis
*******
Easy there big fella. No need to be touchy. At least I didn't say South Dakota. Or West Virginia.
Posted by: Muldoon at March 07, 2023 05:09 PM (ykeLU)
Posted by: polynikes
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Work is secondary. Citizenship and birthright citizenship is primary. Pop out your babies or find a fatass white-trash woman to marry and you're set. You aren't going anywhere.
Posted by: Corporate and government are probably 90 percent of EV sales at March 07, 2023 05:10 PM (YKthm)
Posted by: fd at March 07, 2023 05:10 PM (iayUP)
The "foreign country" feeling I get here is entirely based on Americans, not immigrants or illegals.
Posted by: rhomboid at March 07, 2023 05:07 PM (OTzUX)
I lived in Denver. Little of column A, little of Column B.
I do *not* miss the throng of Aztec invaders a bit. Not even a little. Those people make any place suck.
But... I may miss the "Americans" there even less. Less destructive in the short term, more destructive in the long term, and always lamer the whole time. At least the illegals aren't necessarily Communists.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 07, 2023 05:10 PM (oINRc)
Too bad both of our countries are controlled bu corrupt shitheads.
Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at March 07, 2023 05:11 PM (TXFi7)
Posted by: Ben Had at March 07, 2023 05:11 PM (KYv+u)
The left: The J6 protests were the worst attack on America since, uh, the Vandals! Here is two years of constant new coverage of them.
Also the left: You shared video of the J6 protests? HOW DARE YOU!
Posted by: 18-1 at March 07, 2023 05:11 PM (lc5cP)
Posted by: Muldoon
*sips Hurricane from glass long ago stolen from Pat O'Brien's*
*Finds a kind of Peace and Reconciliation*
Posted by: Miklosian Happier Hours at March 07, 2023 05:12 PM (2hexI)
House Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) received an ethics complaint from a watchdog group which accused the speaker of acting in a politically motivated way when he released Jan. 6 footage to Tucker Carlson.
Posted by: Fool Otto at March 07, 2023 05:09 PM
Waaaaaa. This is pissing off all the right people. Good. Keep going Tucker.
Posted by: Minnfidel at March 07, 2023 05:12 PM (oE0yX)
We could violently and decisively destroy the cartels in short order. But nobody has the balls to make that call. It would uncover deep corruption within the Mexican government and institutions and it would take- war.
But Meanwhile hundreds of Americans die from their poison every month because their isn't a person with courage left in Washington.
Posted by: Marcus T at March 07, 2023 05:12 PM (8Voqu)
Posted by: Puddleglum at March 07, 2023 05:08 PM (sAmhv)
Bellingham is what makes my head spin. I mean, it's a (northern) border town and WA does not lack for dusky south of the border types but still...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 07, 2023 05:12 PM (bzzlh)
And do you know what "matamoros" means?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 07, 2023 05:12 PM (tkR6S)
House Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) received an ethics complaint from a watchdog group which accused the speaker of acting in a politically motivated way when he released Jan. 6 footage to Tucker Carlson.
Posted by: Fool Otto
'watchdog' group = partisan leftwing activists funded by Davos.
Posted by: Puddleglum at March 07, 2023 05:12 PM (sAmhv)
Posted by: polynikes
This is a generalization, but if you look at Mexico and Central America the way the Spanish did, as one big territory and not multiple nations, the people that live from Mexico City and north are industrialized and trainable. Those that live south of there are uneducated and rural, and much more interchangeable than nationality would suggest.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 07, 2023 05:12 PM (lTGtQ)
Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at March 07, 2023 05:13 PM (TXFi7)
And do you know what "matamoros" means?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 07, 2023 05:12 PM (tkR6S)
Yeah it's not PC.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 07, 2023 05:13 PM (oINRc)
The left: THAT'S RACIST
PS: Yes the left thinks Muslims are a race
Posted by: 18-1 at March 07, 2023 05:13 PM (lc5cP)
Posted by: polynikes at March 07, 2023 05:13 PM (Pf9Yk)
*******
Yeah. The only reason Grand Junction is on the map is I-70. Conduit from gangs in SoCal to Denver and on into the midwest. Seems like once every week or two some mug gets pulled over around here and has multiple pounds of meth and fentanyl. Lord knows how many don't get pulled over.
Posted by: Muldoon at March 07, 2023 05:14 PM (ykeLU)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 07, 2023 05:12 PM (tkR6S)
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Gee, it's almost like an Ivy League grad with an English degree designed this operation from Langley or something.
Posted by: Oschisms at March 07, 2023 05:14 PM (0A5+1)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 07, 2023 05:15 PM (a3Q+t)
Posted by: Puddleglum at March 07, 2023 05:08 PM (sAmhv)
I'm thinking that this is a consortium of families (not necessarily cartels) that have all agreed on territories for distribution purposes. And I don't think this is all about drugs. Human trafficking has become a huge business nowadays.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at March 07, 2023 05:15 PM (BdMk6)
eah. The only reason Grand Junction is on the map is I-70. Conduit from gangs in SoCal to Denver and on into the midwest.
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The I-70/I-25 interchange and US-285 are the reason why Denver has been up to its nuts in dope for a long, long time. Major overland communications connector for a big-ass piece of El Norte.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 07, 2023 05:15 PM (oINRc)
Posted by: SMH at living in a Romans 1 world at March 07, 2023 05:15 PM (9KRwM)
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 07, 2023 05:16 PM (Vwz3I)
* which the lawless farcical clown-car known as "the judiciary" decided couldn't be done, thereby converting the frequently abused EO process into a full-blown "rule by decree" add-on to our constitutional system - well, a *conditional* dictator's powers, depending on the topic
Posted by: rhomboid at March 07, 2023 05:16 PM (OTzUX)
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Yep.
Posted by: SMH at living in a Romans 1 world at March 07, 2023 05:16 PM (9KRwM)
They obviously wanted to go to South of the Border off I-95
Posted by: Pedro and Miklos sez at March 07, 2023 05:16 PM (2hexI)
The situation here and now is no different than Columbia in the 70s-80s.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at March 07, 2023 05:17 PM (+2RzF)
Posted by: Miklos so figures at March 07, 2023 05:17 PM (2hexI)
Posted by: Ben Had at March 07, 2023 05:17 PM (KYv+u)
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I have a small 5 figure profit sharing check coming my way.
Opinion: Should I roll the entire amount into my 401K, or take the after tax cash and sit on it?
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at March 07, 2023 05:17 PM (7Fj9P)
Posted by: Muldoon at March 07, 2023 05:18 PM (ykeLU)
You can get over 3% now just sitting in a savings account.
Posted by: polynikes at March 07, 2023 05:19 PM (Pf9Yk)
Posted by: Skip at March 07, 2023 05:21 PM (xhxe8)
As soon as they crossed into Mexico, they attacked the car full on, like they knew they were coming and did not want them there.
Posted by: PJ at March 07, 2023 06:15 PM (G1dq6)
Every time it happens, I can't help but laugh and wonder how colossally detached from reality these people must be.
Posted by: insurgens ad opus at March 07, 2023 07:47 PM (5o7rt)
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