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Daily Tech News 5 March 2023

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  • Iran has struck lithium - an estimated 8.5 million tons of it. (The Register)

    That sounds like a lot - and it is. Global lithium production in 2021 was estimated at 100,000 tons, half of it from Australia. But there's an estimated 6 million tons just sitting in the Salton Sea stinking up the place. Lithium is not particularly rare, and not all that valuable, so not a lot of effort has been put into finding more of it when we already have enough for 300 years.

    You'll sometimes see figures that by 2030 we'll be using 3 million tons of lithium per year, but that's actually lithium carbonate - Li2CO3 - which is only 10% 20% lithium by mass. Even at that rate known reserves will last more than a century sixty years.


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  • I accidentally bought a couple more computer cases today, even though I just bought two expensive Hololive limited edition computer cases that I haven't put anything in yet.

    Before I accidentally bought a house last year I was rebuilding my home office, and one of the things I had planned was to build a couple of custom NAS boxes using Silverstone's CS01-HS. It's an aluminium mini-ITX case with six 2.5" hot swap drive bays plugging into a SAS/SATA backplane, which is not something you normally find in mini-ITX cases, plus room for another two 2.5" drives inside, which is a little more common.

    Anyway, fast forward a year and I'm looking at cheap options to get a computer in every room of the new house (which has too many rooms) and I tripped over the CS01S-HS on Amazon. That's the silver version; I had planned to get one each in silver and black, but apparently the entire range has been discontinued in the past year and Amazon only had a couple of remnant silver models in stock. I said to myself that I would have bought them if they still had both, but since they don't, I moved on.

    And then found the black version under a separate listing, even though the silver version showed the black version as sold out. And they only had one of the black version, so if I missed out now that was it.

    So I bought both.

    And now I have to figure out what to do with them. It's a mini-ITX case so you only have one PCIe slot, and the case itself only provides room for a half-height, half-length card. And there are very few mini-ITX motherboards with eight SATA ports (even this one only has six and it ain't cheap) so that slot is pretty much dedicated to a SATA controller. Only pretty much, because you can now get five and six port SATA controllers that fit in an M.2 slot. I'm not sure why those exist when the one case that would require such a thing has been discontinued, but they do.

    My first thought was to use the Ryzen 5700G, which still has the fastest integrated graphics of any readily available desktop CPU. But that's Socket AM4, and a quick search found exactly one Socket AM4 mini-ITX motherboard in stock in Australia, and that only has gigabit Ethernet, so I'd need to use the sole M.2 slot for a SATA controller and the PCIe slot for 10GbE, which wouldn't leave me with a boot drive separate from storage.

    Probably best to use a current model motherboard with at least 2.5Gb Ethernet and not worry about the graphics. If I want to do media transcoding an Intel CPU is probably the way to go, even though it's worse for gaming.

    Why a 2.5" NAS? As I mentioned yesterday, SSDs have already fallen in price by 30% this year. I'm going to stuff it full of cheap SATA SSDs and run ZFS. It won't be cheap - individual SSDs might be but eight of them aren't - but good dedicated NASes aren't cheap either, unless your employer happens to be throwing them out... Which is why all my Synology boxes date back to 2013 and really need replacing.


  • The importance of being ECC. (Robert Felder)

    At least DDR5 has on-die ECC, and some really weird systems with nominally non-ECC RAM have block ECC as well. I wonder if any regular motherboards have support for that, since it seems you can do it with regular Intel CPUs.


  • Lemon-derived extracellular vesicle-like nanoparticles block the progression of kidney stones by antagonizing endoplasmic reticulum stress in renal tubular cells. (ACS)

    Shut up and take my money.

    In rats.

    Squeak.


  • Although that Gigabyte Aero 14 OLED laptop I mentioned yesterday is very tempting, the truth is now that I've settled in in New House City I only expect to travel any real distance about once a year.

    And for the same price as that laptop (13700H, 16GB of RAM, 1TB SSD, RTX 4050) I can get a desktop system with a 13500 (almost exactly the same as the 13700H laptop chip), 128GB of RAM, 2TB of SSD, and a Radeon 6700... And 24TB of hard disk storage as well, just because.

    So I think that's what I'll do.


Disclaimer: Some look at my parts lists and say, what are you doing that you need 128GB of RAM? I look at them and say, I wonder if this board supports those new 96GB memory kits.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at 04:00 AM




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1 At least you got the date right today.

Posted by: m at March 05, 2023 04:02 AM (v0TzN)

2 Harrumph.

Posted by: m at March 05, 2023 04:02 AM (v0TzN)

3 Today is unofficially 33 February 2023. In some climates.

Posted by: m at March 05, 2023 04:05 AM (v0TzN)

4 Mornin'


Posted by: Puddleglum at work at March 05, 2023 04:17 AM (bA3Ln)

5 But there's an estimated 6 million tons just sitting in the Salton Sea stinking up the place.

True, but then the US and particularly California would have to mine and refine the material.

The paperwork is gonna be epic on that.
Better to get it from Iran. Then when they shut it down we can blame them for the shortages.

Posted by: Bruce at March 05, 2023 04:19 AM (vd8XM)

6 climates-->climes
maybe

Posted by: m at March 05, 2023 04:22 AM (v0TzN)

7 Mixed up the atomic number and atomic mass of lithium. Fixed.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at March 05, 2023 04:29 AM (BLOW1)

8 Greetings!
Hoo boy are we ever getting the rain, thunder, lightning!

Posted by: gourmand du jour, gimpy edition at March 05, 2023 04:29 AM (jTmQV)

9 G'Day everyone

Posted by: Skip at March 05, 2023 04:29 AM (xhxe8)

10 Mixed up the atomic number and atomic mass of lithium. Fixed.
Posted by: Pixy Misa

What the heck!??

Now I have to start making the battery all over again.

Posted by: Bruce at March 05, 2023 04:30 AM (vd8XM)

11 Mornin', all

Posted by: My Life is Insanity at March 05, 2023 04:32 AM (x7w//)

12 BOING!

Pixy, I've never had kidney stones.

I also drink almost first thing every morning the juice of a freshly squeezed lemon mixed into a tall glass of water. I started doing this years ago on a health suggestion. One of the benefits listed in involved stone prevention.

L'chaim!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at March 05, 2023 04:35 AM (odVni)

13 I'm sorry you've been feeling poorly, Pixy.

Posted by: m at March 05, 2023 04:38 AM (v0TzN)

14 Damn! That was some thunder. Real thunder is very rare here. If it happens, it's only during Winter. Every else - they also happen in Summer.

Posted by: SFGoth at March 05, 2023 04:41 AM (KAi1n)

15
Anyway, fast forward a year and I'm looking at cheap options to get a computer in every room of the new house (which has too many rooms)

That's one way to heat the new house.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at March 05, 2023 04:46 AM (enJYY)

16 Since this is a tech thread, has anyone (besides me) experienced a stutter when streaming music or other audio via bluetooth? It's very unnerving when listening to music. I usually resolve by connecting the device via a cable, bypassing bluetooth.

Posted by: gourmand du jour, gimpy edition at March 05, 2023 04:47 AM (jTmQV)

17 It's very unnerving when listening to music. I usually resolve by connecting the device via a cable, bypassing bluetooth.
Posted by: gourmand du jour

Sorry, I've never bluetoothed. Every time I try one or the other of the devices says "Huh?"

Posted by: Bruce at March 05, 2023 04:52 AM (vd8XM)

18
Bluetooth is touchy. You have to be certain that it's not looking around for other devices it has connected to in the past. Make sure they are turned off. That's my guess.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at March 05, 2023 04:52 AM (enJYY)

19 i didn't know that North Korea uses a different calendar than the rest of civilization. Something about the great leaders birthday as being year zero.
Of course they put the regular calendar in some publications. The beloved leader Kim Jong Un looks like he has gained back the weight he lost. So much food, so little time, is probably what he is thinking.

Posted by: Colin at March 05, 2023 04:54 AM (17E9H)

20 My mouse is Bluetooth dependent, which I didn't know until once, just out of curiosity, I checked "Turn Bluetooth off" and eureka.

Posted by: m at March 05, 2023 04:55 AM (v0TzN)

21 Another tech item, my Kindle Fire 7 died (it was pretty old) and I replaced it with a Fire 10. Very snappy, nice screen, nice features.
Be advised tho' you'll need 2 hands to hold it to read. At least I did, and I can "palm" a basketball.

Posted by: gourmand du jour, gimpy edition at March 05, 2023 05:03 AM (jTmQV)

22 Another tech item, my Kindle Fire 7 died (it was pretty old) and I replaced it with a Fire 10. Very snappy, nice screen, nice features.
Be advised tho' you'll need 2 hands to hold it to read. At least I did, and I can "palm" a basketball.
Posted by: gourmand du jour

I had bought one in 2018. After a couple of years it kept getting slower and slower. I tried the tricks I found online to speed it up, but eventually it decided to be a slug

Posted by: Bruce at March 05, 2023 05:08 AM (vd8XM)

23 I accidentally bought a couple more computer cases today...

Is there a Computer Hardware-holics Anonymous down in Australia where Pixy could attend meetings?

A custom-built computer in every room seems like a cry for help.

Posted by: Count de Monet at March 05, 2023 05:11 AM (4I/2K)

24 Bluetooth is touchy. You have to be certain that it's not looking around for other devices it has connected to in the past. Make sure they are turned off. That's my guess.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at March 05, 2023 04:52 AM (enJYY)


So you're saying Bluetooth is a hoor?

Posted by: Count de Monet at March 05, 2023 05:14 AM (4I/2K)

25 The new Fire tablet 2022 edition is really an improvement over my older tablet. Got it for 55 dollars during Amazons black Friday event. Nephew just bought a new Apple tablet which means he only buys the best. But for 60 dollars with tax, I don't see how the extra 100's of dollars he spent was really worth it.

Posted by: Colin at March 05, 2023 05:14 AM (17E9H)

26 With the Apple tablet you're not getting ads all the time. Kindle front loads a lot of ads.

Posted by: gourmand du jour, gimpy edition at March 05, 2023 05:16 AM (jTmQV)

27 Actually I see very few ads on the new Fire tablet. Not sure what I'm doing wrong.

Posted by: Colin at March 05, 2023 05:18 AM (17E9H)

28 The most economical computer I've ever bought recently is a Linux computer. Extremely stripped down (not even a speaker), about the size of a hockey puck. Zippy little guy, monitor hooks up via HDMI (can hook up 2 monitors), bluetooth, etc.
$109 delivered.

Posted by: gourmand du jour, gimpy edition at March 05, 2023 05:20 AM (jTmQV)

29 On the Fire, the ads show before you enter your pin.

Posted by: gourmand du jour, gimpy edition at March 05, 2023 05:21 AM (jTmQV)

30 Well, I am seldom awake this time of night.
Funny how a monstrous nearby lightning strike can affect that.
Back to my slumber.
zzzzz....

Posted by: gourmand du jour, gimpy edition at March 05, 2023 05:26 AM (jTmQV)

31 I have a Pi computer in a small case with a M.2 slot. Amazing performance for such a small computer. I am using Ethernet from a fiber feed and HDMI. Has 8 gig etc. I expect to see in the future, all computers will be very small, and still have all the features that a new desk top computer has.

Posted by: Colin at March 05, 2023 05:30 AM (17E9H)

32 G'mornin' everyone, & g'd'evenin' Pixy!

Lemon-derived, eh? So the lemon juice thing was right.


*redacted, a rant about ... well ... stuff.*

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - we are being gaslighted 24/365 at March 05, 2023 05:35 AM (VohFI)

33 gourmand, got a link for #28?

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - we are being gaslighted 24/365 at March 05, 2023 05:38 AM (VohFI)

34 Morning, 'rons and 'ettes.

Posted by: olddog in mo at March 05, 2023 05:40 AM (ju2Fy)

35 Evening and morning to all! A cool fresh Sunday morning here . . . and I need cool and fresh. I've a water leak horror story and need a little advice. I'll save it for the EMT.

Howzyer Sunday lookin'?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 05, 2023 05:46 AM (omVj0)

36 advice? got it fresh in stock this week, and guaranteed to be worth what it cost!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - we are being gaslighted 24/365 at March 05, 2023 05:51 AM (VohFI)

37 hiya

Posted by: JT at March 05, 2023 05:52 AM (T4tVD)

38 If don't get moving soon should just stay here until tomorrow

Posted by: Skip at March 05, 2023 05:54 AM (xhxe8)

39 World Market had some Cafe Trombetta Italian espresso and "classic" coffee on sale, $7 for 8.8 oz. and buy one-get one, so I ended up with a pound+. I'm trying the espresso version. Pretty good so far.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 05, 2023 05:57 AM (omVj0)

40 Pixy, I know we don't say it often enough, but we appreciate what you do and what you post as well.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 05, 2023 05:59 AM (omVj0)

41 Good morning! Burned a lot of brush and yard trimmings yesterday. I can actually see the pond now. Next chore is to drain the pond and excavate the silt, then replace the pump and fountain. Yippee cfukin skippy...

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at March 05, 2023 05:59 AM (+2RzF)

42 Nood!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - we are being gaslighted 24/365 at March 05, 2023 06:01 AM (VohFI)

43 For 33

https://tinyurl.com/293hkvh3

Posted by: gourmand du jour, gimpy edition at March 05, 2023 06:40 AM (jTmQV)

44 As 40 said, Pixy Misa.

Still trying to figure out what to put together to build a $500-$600 desktop with at least 6 cores, 32 GB memory, an SSD boot drive, a two drive RAID, and decent graphics. I will be using Linux as my primary OS with a virtulizer to run MS Windows. I want to run Flight Gear and Steam (Occupy Mars).

My current system is an Athalon II with 3 cores, 6 GB memorey, both SATA and ATA drives. It is 12+ years old and just doesn't cut it any more. It will make a good server though.

Posted by: BillB at March 05, 2023 08:41 AM (TQxb9)

45 Shaitan hands out favors to Iran

Posted by: Richard Sean McEnroe at March 05, 2023 12:49 PM (8fxF+)

46 I am making $90 an hour working from home. i was greatly surprised at the same time as my neighbour advised me she changed into averaging $100 however I see the way it works now. I experience mass freedom now that I'm my non-public boss.
Here's what I've been doing.. www.Payathome7.com

Posted by: www.Payathome7.com at March 06, 2023 01:33 AM (3AWRV)

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