THE MORNING RANT – Report From The Heartland Institute’s “Climate Realism” Conference

Happy Friday! I had the good fortune of meeting quite a few Ace of Spades readers at the Heartland Institute’s “15th International Conference on Climate Change” in Orlando last weekend. It was a pleasure to get to know you!

In addition, it was a great pleasure to listen to and personally visit with many of the great scientists who are working to debunk the fraudulent pseudo-science of climate communism. Among these people were Anthony Watts, Steve Milloy, Joe Bastardi, Lord Christopher Monkton, and many others.

Representative Lauren Boebert and Senator Ron Johnson gave keynote speeches. We have some great allies in Congress, but just not enough of them. We need more Boeberts and Johnsons.

I was relieved to hear not one speaker giving any credence to the talking points of the Republican surrender caucus (by whom I mean those “conservatives” who talk about slowing down the conversion to net zero rather than emphatically rejecting net zero and also rejecting unreliable “sustainable” energy.) Across the board, there was a passionate rejection of any attempts to eliminate or even reduce carbon-based energy or petroleum production.

There was also a great deal of debunking of CO2 alarmism, as it was repeatedly pointed out that over many millenia CO2 has been much higher (and also much lower) than the current parts per million (“ppm”. Climate cultists repeatedly state that CO2 causes global temperatures to rise because over Earth’s history, CO2 ppm were often higher during periods when the climate was warm. But that is like saying that wet roads are the cause of rain. More likely, the events that caused historic periods of warming also caused CO2 to rise, since there were no SUV-driving humans infesting the Earth back then to produce all that CO2.

Correlation is not causation as shown by the humorous chart above, which shows a disturbing increase in shark attacks as people start buying more ice cream each summer.

I will never stop mocking the leaders and evangelists of the Sustainable Organic Church Of The Carbon Apocalypse, nor will I ever stop my efforts to assertively push back against them, but there was an important message delivered by Alex Epstein. He gave an excellent presentation on the moral case for fossil fuels, without which human flourishing is suspended, and how without fossil fuels, those who are living impoverished lives in underdeveloped countries are then consigned to live in poverty forever.

Granted, much of the ruling class believes that there are several billion too many people in those countries, and the elite’s goal is to not lift those people up, but rather to reduce their numbers.

But for persuadable people who have compassion in their hearts, and who might have been led to believe that net zero is the compassionate direction, we must make the case that fossil fuels are the compassionate way to advance all humans, and that inflicting the permanent poverty of net zero on those in poverty is cruel and inhumane.

Along those lines, another challenge we have in fighting back against net-zero is that those pushing to eliminate fossil fuels see petroleum only as an energy source, thus they only make the case that they need to replace the energy from fossil fuels.

But so much more comes from petroleum, without which there are none of the products that we rely on for our daily lives.

As this brief one-minute video from Ronald Stein points out, electricity can make a defibrillator work, but petroleum is necessary to actually manufacture the defibrillator, as well as thousands of other products that we rely on every day.

Anthony Watts had an excellent presentation on how horribly corrupted NOAA’s weather stations are, pointing out that 96% of stations are not situated properly, allowing retained heat from rocks and pavement to distort the readings.

Below is an example of a weather station which sits at the top of a sunlit rock wall in Colfax, CA. Those rocks are holding a lot of heat. Before the station was moved to this spot, it had sat in a grass field at this same firehouse, but during a building renovation the weather station was moved to this corrupted site.

Last July, I wrote about Watt’s findings. There is a little more detail at this link.

Joe Bastardi also had a lot to say about how corrupted the government weather establishment is, be it weather stations or hurricane intensity or climate models, pointing out that 75% of the world’s volcanoes are in oceans, and the impact of their underwater emissions and eruptions are unknown to those modeling Earth’s long-term climate

One thing that I was pleasantly surprised to hear was several speakers making the case that a spiritual reawakening is also necessary to counter the religiosity of the climate cult. Christianity has collapsed in much of the western world, but humans are hard wired to be religious, and the Church of Climate has rushed in to fill that void. Is there any religious belief more ingrained in human history than the conviction that bad weather and natural disasters are caused because of sinful human behavior? That atavistic belief is the foundation of the climate agenda.

I’ll likely have additional posts refencing information from the conference, but this is enough for today. Thanks to Jim Lakely and the Heartland team for putting on this fantastic “climate skeptic” hootenanny, and for being a central clearinghouse for the scientists and politicians actively pushing back against climate communism.

All speakers and sessions can be found in a series of videos at this link. If you would like to see the speeches from Rep. Boebert or Sen. Johnson, they can be found in the first video at the 1:52:45 mark and 0:47:00 mark respectively.

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Songs of the Season

Speaking of climate, it’s now March, and “Meterological Spring” began on March 1. However, Joe Bastardi says that the mild late winter many of us in the East have been enjoying is about to give way to a wintry March. Since it’s still too early to start turning dirt in my garden, I’m up for a few more flurries if that’s in the cards.

Here is Deanna Durbin from 1944 singing ”Spring Will Be A Little Late This Year”

Spring will be a little late this year
A little late arriving in my lonely world over here
For you have left me and where is our April of old?
You have left me, Winter continues cold
As if to say spring will be a little slow to start
A little slow reviving that music it made in my heart
Yes, time heals all things so I needn't cling to this fear
It's merely that spring will be a little late this year

Have a great weekend.

[buck.throckmorton at protonmail dot com]

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at 11:00 AM

Comments

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1 sponge

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 03, 2023 11:01 AM (LvTSG)

2 Monkeyless

Posted by: Skip at March 03, 2023 11:01 AM (HY3gN)

3 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 03, 2023 11:01 AM (Zz0t1)

4 Sophie the giraffe!

Posted by: CN at March 03, 2023 11:01 AM (Zzbjj)

5 Sponge is capable of getting his own

Posted by: Skip at March 03, 2023 11:01 AM (HY3gN)

6 5 Sponge is capable of getting his own
Posted by: Skip at March 03, 2023 11:01 AM (HY3gN)

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Is he?

Is he, really?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 03, 2023 11:03 AM (LvTSG)

7 Things were getting catty in the last thread.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 03, 2023 11:03 AM (y/a4v)

8 We have one of those weather stations at the university where I work. Naturally, it's right next to a parking lot (within 3 meters or so) that gets blazing hot in the MO summertime.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 03, 2023 11:04 AM (YIVH2)

9 Why not nuke China, India and Africa and have nice things again?

Posted by: Puddinhead at March 03, 2023 11:04 AM (xSnmX)

10 I'm a big fan of oil and it's many products

Posted by: Zeera. 'We want fun and we wanna get wasted!' at March 03, 2023 11:04 AM (L9NLB)

11 It also begs the question whether petrochemicals or coal are correctly dubbed "fossil fuels", as opposed to just substances that have been present under the earth's crust since the big bang, regardless of what plants or animals have lived or died over the millenia.

If we discover petrochemicals and carbon materials on Mars or Jupiter's moons, are we going to start supposing that dinosaurs once lived there?

Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at March 03, 2023 11:05 AM (GD2xa)

12 Sponge is capable of getting his own
Posted by: Skip at March 03, 2023 11:01 AM (HY3gN)

I'm HANDIcapable!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 03, 2023 11:05 AM (Zz0t1)

13 9 Why not nuke China, India and Africa and have nice things again?
Posted by: Puddinhead at March 03, 2023 11:04 AM (xSnmX)

Uncle Palp had a plan.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 03, 2023 11:05 AM (y/a4v)

14 Aramco is out with a warning to the world this morning that dramatic underinvestment in oil production, the fruit of climate insanity, is shortly to result in global energy and food shortages.

Just a little note from the future.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at March 03, 2023 11:05 AM (gd9nb)

15 Start with Ice Cream stats.

Finish with Deanna Durbin.

Nice.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at March 03, 2023 11:05 AM (lf83v)

16 Oil.

God's gift.

Stop messing with it and use it as it's been supplied to make life better. FOR ALL.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 03, 2023 11:05 AM (Zz0t1)

17 Missing from the composite of things petroleum based:

Leisure suits

Posted by: Muldoon at March 03, 2023 11:06 AM (ykeLU)

18 >>One thing that I was pleasantly surprised to hear was several speakers making the case that a spiritual reawakening is also necessary to counter the religiosity of the climate cult.

Yes!
The churches that have not gone woke are booming.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 03, 2023 11:06 AM (mqu1M)

19 I have to say, the climate really does seems to be trolling the climate communists. Every time they predict something, it seems to do the opposite.

It's impossible to be wrong as consistently as climate cultists are, something else must be afoot.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 03, 2023 11:06 AM (Y5qcH)

20 The official temp station for the DFW metroplex is located at the airport, the most compromised location that it could be located at.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 03, 2023 11:06 AM (uNylN)

21 19 It's impossible to be wrong as consistently as climate cultists are, something else must be afoot.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 03, 2023 11:06 AM (Y5qcH)

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It's literally a doomsday cult.

That it's lasted this long is the only remarkable thing about it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 03, 2023 11:07 AM (LvTSG)

22 If we discover petrochemicals and carbon materials on Mars or Jupiter's moons, are we going to start supposing that dinosaurs once lived there?
Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at March 03, 2023 11:05 AM (GD2xa)
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Isn't Titan (a moon of Saturn) just one big pile of hydrocarbons?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 03, 2023 11:07 AM (YIVH2)

23
GECSPLAN.

I have not forgotten.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 03, 2023 11:07 AM (oINRc)

24 Woke up in my clothes again this morning

Don't know exactly where I am

Posted by: nurse ratched at March 03, 2023 11:07 AM (U2p+3)

25 ---
Isn't Titan (a moon of Saturn) just one big pile of hydrocarbons?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 03, 2023 11:07 AM (YIVH2)

CARBON!!????

So it's as hot as the sun, right?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 03, 2023 11:07 AM (Zz0t1)

26 Woke up in my clothes again this morning

Don't know exactly where I am
Posted by: nurse ratched at March 03, 2023 11:07 AM (U2p+3)

That's hot.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 03, 2023 11:08 AM (Zz0t1)

27 The official temp station for the DFW metroplex is located at the airport, the most compromised location that it could be located at.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 03, 2023 11:06 AM (uNylN)

Same with the Pittsburgh Airport. They probably move it out in sun, 2ft above the tarmac in the summer.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 03, 2023 11:08 AM (y/a4v)

28 Missus Muldoon, who makes her own skin cream and lip balms, points out that probably 90% pf commercial skin products have petroleum based ingredients (vaseline, mineral oil, some waxes, etc.)

Posted by: Muldoon at March 03, 2023 11:08 AM (ykeLU)

29 Very Zenyattà Mondatta, nurse ratched.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at March 03, 2023 11:09 AM (lf83v)

30 The official temp station for the DFW metroplex is located at the airport, the most compromised location that it could be located at.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 03, 2023 11:06 AM (uNylN)

I'm just surprised it's not at the end of a runway, awash with all the jet blast on run up and takeoff.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 03, 2023 11:09 AM (Zz0t1)

31 NOAA actually has less less temperature stations now than they did 50 years ago. They think they don't need them. They much prefer the outputs of their computer models and would probably get rid of all the station if they could.

If they don't like what the temperature station is reading they will just "adjust" it anyway.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 03, 2023 11:09 AM (Y5qcH)

32 ChatGPT shows more emotion than Deanna Durbin singing.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at March 03, 2023 11:09 AM (JCZqz)

33 Can We 100% Get Rid of Fossil Fuel?

That's like asking if we can get rid of the wind. The Earth is just going to keep creating it.

Posted by: t-bird at March 03, 2023 11:10 AM (e2onP)

34 btw, MTG is still going on about all the investigations that are in the planning stages. Got to work out who caters the lunch breaks, and sub committee seating arrangements. Get to work, skank!

Posted by: micky at March 03, 2023 11:10 AM (3byMq)

35 Missus Muldoon, who makes her own skin cream and lip balms, points out that probably 90% pf commercial skin products have petroleum based ingredients (vaseline, mineral oil, some waxes, etc.)
Posted by: Muldoon

Mrs. Aspirin Factory would be interested in such products if they are for sale.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 03, 2023 11:10 AM (y/a4v)

36 >>But so much more comes from petroleum, without which there are none of the products that we rely on for our daily lives.

The graphic needs to be updated to include iphones, latops, cool sportswear (e.g. polartec)!!

Posted by: Lizzy at March 03, 2023 11:10 AM (mqu1M)

37 'Member peak oil?

I 'member.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 03, 2023 11:10 AM (LvTSG)

38 28 Missus Muldoon, who makes her own skin cream and lip balms, points out that probably 90% pf commercial skin products have petroleum based ingredients (vaseline, mineral oil, some waxes, etc.)
Posted by: Muldoon at March 03, 2023 11:08 AM (ykeLU)

Or things rendered from animal fats. Like from a slaughterhouse.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 03, 2023 11:10 AM (Y5qcH)

39 Awesome post, Mr. Buckthrockton!!

Posted by: Muldoon at March 03, 2023 11:11 AM (ykeLU)

40 The other thing the climate cultists do is redefine the measurements. I expect a Cat 1 hurricane to be rounded down from the current 74MPH sustained winds to something significantly lower. Thus, more hurricanes. Same for high heat warnings associated with the so-called "heat index."

Once they've redefined the measurements they can more readily "prove" their insane hypothesis that humans are causing global warming.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 03, 2023 11:11 AM (Q4IgG)

41 The graphic needs to be updated to include iphones, latops, cool sportswear (e.g. polartec)!
_______

And dildos.

Posted by: Don Lemon at March 03, 2023 11:11 AM (lf83v)

42 So,
I've convinced the ARNP I support that Covid developed into an op. She now is profoundly anti mandates and masking. I've been trying to convince her the very same people who forced Covid restrictions and policies are the same ones trying to manipulate us with the man made global warming /green energy crap.

She's resisting. Just like she did with Covid. I need that one crack she can't disavow.

Posted by: nurse ratched at March 03, 2023 11:11 AM (U2p+3)

43 Ahhh....the memba berries.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 03, 2023 11:11 AM (Zz0t1)

44 Climate change advocates are the perfect example of sharing one of the 10 mental defects common in all Leftists. The inability to determine cause and effect.

Posted by: polynikes at March 03, 2023 11:11 AM (Oivbi)

45 Dr. Michael Crichton was a late critic of global warning. He was unpersoned before his death in 2008. I think he died happy after writing State Of Fear in 2004. He was a cool guy.

Posted by: Eromero at March 03, 2023 11:12 AM (0G42s)

46 No petroleum is used in the creation of limericks or puns.

They are carbon-neutral.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at March 03, 2023 11:12 AM (6uZ0Z)

47 nurse, did you get outta bed and drag a comb across your head before finding your way downstairs to drink a cup...?

Posted by: micky at March 03, 2023 11:12 AM (3byMq)

48 20 The official temp station for the DFW metroplex is located at the airport, the most compromised location that it could be located at.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 03, 2023 11:06 AM

What!?!? It's perfect! We use advanced science and math to adjust the actual readings to account for the environmental skew caused by the airport...and to make sure the results support our belief that the globe is rapidly heating.

Posted by: Global Warming Cult Scientists at March 03, 2023 11:12 AM (JCZqz)

49
One of the founders of OPEC, Juan Alfonso, called oil "the devil's shit."

But he was talking about it's retrograde effect on oil-rich developing economies.

It's great for some countries, not so much for others.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 03, 2023 11:12 AM (oINRc)

50 Practically every single item on that poster above could be made with an alternative material to plastic, and indeed were, historically. Or the plastic could be made with hydrocarbons derived from coal or wood as the source material. Or vegetable oils.

But if we were forced to go that route, many of the items on that poster would become prohibitively expensive, or simply unavailable, because there would be no buyers at the price that would have to be charged to make them from "sustainable" sources.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 03, 2023 11:13 AM (tkR6S)

51 Inspector mentioned recently that electric train engines, the ones that are supposed to do all the moving of goods and people when Net Zero goes into effect, create their electricity with a diesel generator. I could only stare at him in horror as I sudenly realized *just* how truly fucked the world will be if warmenists get their way. They have *no* idea how much of their precious alternatives work only because of oil. The world commerce that they depend on to maintain their positions will come to a halt with a shriek of unlubricated metal and a whimper of an engine with no power.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at March 03, 2023 11:13 AM (nC+QA)

52 OPE is a crime syndicate.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 03, 2023 11:13 AM (y/a4v)

53
She's resisting. Just like she did with Covid. I need that one crack she can't disavow.
Posted by: nurse ratched at March 03, 2023 11:11 AM (U2p+3)

Visit wattsupwiththat.com. Lots of debunking info there.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 03, 2023 11:13 AM (Zz0t1)

54 But so much more comes from petroleum, without which there are none of the products that we rely on for our daily lives.

Bingo! THAT is why they want to ban it. Everything else is just a rationalization to get to that point.

Posted by: t-bird at March 03, 2023 11:13 AM (dNNCD)

55
OPE is a crime syndicate.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 03, 2023 11:13 AM (y/a4v)

Sure.

It's a cartel. They all are.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 03, 2023 11:14 AM (oINRc)

56 Posted by: nurse ratched at March 03, 2023 11:11 AM (U2p+3)

Have you shared that 1975 Newsweek spread that predicted a new Ice Age that was supposed to have happened by now?

Posted by: polynikes at March 03, 2023 11:14 AM (Oivbi)

57 53 Visit wattsupwiththat.com. Lots of debunking info there.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 03, 2023 11:13 AM (Zz0t1)

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"I can point to scientists who say this is wrong. In fact, most scientists say this is wrong."

It's not a rational thing. Nurse is doing it right. It's an emotional thing where feelings of betrayal will do more than facts and figures.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 03, 2023 11:14 AM (LvTSG)

58 If a person publicly supports global warming doctrine he/she are either 1) A communist 2) As dumb as that pile of rocks in the photo above. 3) In on the money grift.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 03, 2023 11:15 AM (E+05M)

59 Good point Mister Scott. Airports NEED good weather data, including the temp right there on the tarmac, but those stations should be only for knowing how much runway is needed and so on. For general weather and especially climate airport weather stations should be excluded. In a country as rich as the U.S. there is no reason to pinch pennies on weather stations. Especially when so much money is wasted on "green in the pols and their pals' pockets, energy"

Posted by: PaleRider at March 03, 2023 11:15 AM (3cGpq)

60 What!?!? It's perfect! We use advanced science and math to adjust the actual readings to account for the environmental skew caused by the airport...and to make sure the results support our belief that the globe is rapidly heating.
Posted by: Global Warming Cult Scientists at March 03, 2023 11:12 AM (JCZqz)

This is the hottest (insert season here) ever!

Posted by: NOAA at March 03, 2023 11:15 AM (AiZBA)

61 Also: vegan leather (formerly known as "pleather") is made using . . .polyurethane!

It's amazing how inorganic the products that alleged earth-huggers promote are these days.
Fake meat and dairy is Frankenfood

Posted by: Lizzy at March 03, 2023 11:15 AM (mqu1M)

62 I work for a global logistics company. Our internal central website has news and updates and info on it, one story showing the "future of trucking."

It's a picture of a truck driving down a freeway with the electrical grid overhead, like the old electric trolley cars of yesteryear.

We're going backwards........

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 03, 2023 11:15 AM (Zz0t1)

63 If they don't like what the temperature station is reading they will just "adjust" it anyway.

Then destroy the original data and net keep any record of how they "adjusted" the readings.

Posted by: Fox 2! at March 03, 2023 11:16 AM (qyH+l)

64 Got new for you guys: we actually don't need a single weather station because our models tell us everything we want to know. See, we're scientists...

Posted by: NOAA at March 03, 2023 11:16 AM (e2onP)

65 Xboxes and VR goggles are made from petroleum, too.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 03, 2023 11:16 AM (mqu1M)

66 Airports NEED good weather data, including the temp right there on the tarmac, but those stations should be only for knowing how much runway is needed and so on. For general weather and especially climate airport weather stations should be excluded. In a country as rich as the U.S. there is no reason to pinch pennies on weather stations. Especially when so much money is wasted on "green in the pols and their pals' pockets, energy"
Posted by: PaleRider at March 03, 2023 11:15 AM (3cGpq)

Local data that SHOULD NOT BE USED OUTSIDE ITS BOUNDARIES.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 03, 2023 11:16 AM (Zz0t1)

67 58 Maj. Healey, embrace the power of “and.”

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at March 03, 2023 11:16 AM (6uZ0Z)

68 Spring Will Be a Little Late This Year

Contrast with WAP by Cardi B and tell me we haven't lost much already of what was a civilized society.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at March 03, 2023 11:17 AM (fs1hN)

69 Local TV weather CONSTANTLY tell you what the temperature is at your local international airport.

Who cares? That's not the temp outside my door, most likely.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 03, 2023 11:17 AM (Zz0t1)

70 I am convinced that petroleum is constantly being created by nature. We could, form time to time, remove it faster than it can be produced by nature, but we can never use it all up permanently.

Posted by: Archer at March 03, 2023 11:17 AM (gmo/4)

71 Xboxes and VR goggles are made from petroleum, too.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 03, 2023 11:16 AM (mqu1M)

SHHHHH!!!!!! You'll scare the hell out of millennials.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 03, 2023 11:17 AM (Zz0t1)

72 It also begs the question whether petrochemicals or coal are correctly dubbed "fossil fuels", as opposed to just substances that have been present under the earth's crust since the big bang, regardless of what plants or animals have lived or died over the millenia.

Every time I see that phrase, I cringe a little because almost everybody uses it incorrectly. But not here. If you read the rest of the sentence in the way it was intended, "begs the question" is correct because the debate assumes the conclusion. A grammar star for you, sir.

Posted by: Oddbob at March 03, 2023 11:17 AM (nfrXX)

73 If windmills and solar panels were the energy of the future, China wouldn't be using coal, oil, and gas to make windmills and solar panels.

Just sayin.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at March 03, 2023 11:17 AM (17s+e)

74 I am convinced that petroleum is constantly being created by nature. We could, form time to time, remove it faster than it can be produced by nature, but we can never use it all up permanently.

Posted by: Archer at March 03, 2023 11:17 AM (gmo/4)

DING DING DING!!!!! On to the BONUS round!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 03, 2023 11:18 AM (Zz0t1)

75 44 Climate change advocates are the perfect example of sharing one of the 10 mental defects common in all Leftists. The inability to determine cause and effect.
Posted by: polynikes at March 03, 2023 11:11 AM (Oivbi)

Everything is a cause.

There is no effect.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 03, 2023 11:18 AM (KbCG3)

76 The sharks lure people in with ice cream
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at March 03, 2023 11:16 AM (J7V8O)

NOTE TO SELF: Resist the urge to swim after an ice cream cone travelling back and forth just off the beach.

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at March 03, 2023 11:18 AM (AiZBA)

77 First a few decades ago they said oil would all be used up pretty much by now.
Now it's not and won't be anytime soon its heating up the plan with global warming.

Posted by: Skip at March 03, 2023 11:18 AM (HY3gN)

78 Woke up in my clothes again this morning

Don't know exactly where I am
Posted by: nurse ratched at March 03, 2023 11:07 AM (U2p+3)
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What?

Posted by: Dr. Bill Cosby, EdD at March 03, 2023 11:19 AM (OhaV5)

79 76 NOTE TO SELF: Resist the urge to swim after an ice cream cone travelling back and forth just off the beach.
Posted by: Napoleon XIV at March 03, 2023 11:18 AM (AiZBA)

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They know you better than that. They know you'll swim for the ice cream.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 03, 2023 11:19 AM (LvTSG)

80 @42
In response to those who maintain that everything Josh Hawley and others do is just theater, here's what's happening now on Covid origins, thanks in part to a bill sponsored by Hawley, and just passed unanimously by the Senate.

If the House passes the bill — which is almost certain to happen — the Director of National Intelligence, Avril Haines, will have 90 days to declassify the following intel relating to:

Potential links between the Wuhan Institute of Virology and the origin of the Hong Kong Fluey
Activities performed by the Wuhan Institute of Virology with or on behalf of the People’s Liberation Army (that’s the Chinese Communist Army)
Coronavirus research or other related activities performed at the Wuhan lab
A list of researchers who became sick while working in the Wuhan lab, as well as their full names, symptoms suffered, and the dates the symptoms began, as well as their positions at the Wuhan lab.

https://tinyurl.com/3kr49dvz

Posted by: Archimedes at March 03, 2023 11:19 AM (eOEVl)

81
Woke up in my clothes again this morning

Don't know exactly where I am
Posted by: nurse ratched

___________________________

yeah

Posted by: John Fetterman at March 03, 2023 11:19 AM (vwCZJ)

82 My response to anyone that tells me "I'm a scientist!"

"Oh good, I need a blowjob and the oil in my truck needs changing."

Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 03, 2023 11:19 AM (E+05M)

83
Posted by: Oddbob at March 03, 2023 11:17 AM (nfrXX)

I usually think of it as "talking past the sale."

"Once you buy one of these safe cars, your days of dying in car wrecks are over."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 03, 2023 11:19 AM (oINRc)

84 I am convinced that petroleum is constantly being created by nature.

Russian disinformation! No, really. Sort of. The abiotic theory (whcih makes a heck of a lot of sense) is the theory that guides Russian oil exploration. They seem to be doing quite well with it.

Posted by: t-bird at March 03, 2023 11:20 AM (e2onP)

85 Coronation of ice cream and sharks is its a big item on the ocean boardwalks. Stop selling it and sharks will go away

Posted by: Skip at March 03, 2023 11:20 AM (HY3gN)

86 If we discover petrochemicals and carbon materials on Mars or Jupiter's moons, are we going to start supposing that dinosaurs once lived there?
Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at March 03, 2023 11:05 AM (GD2xa)
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Isn't Titan (a moon of Saturn) just one big pile of hydrocarbons?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 03, 2023 11:07 AM

I have been saying that for decades. Organic compounds are present so there must be or must have been life present in the past to make those compounds.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 03, 2023 11:20 AM (uNylN)

87 This entire climate change scam is nothing more than thinly veiled socialism. Climate protesters eventually all move to chanting slogans about killing capitalism.

Arguing the facts, as in there is no warming - in fact, the measured temperatures in the US are lower now than in 1880 - doesn't seem to move the needle. Neither does spreading the fact that the move to replace petroleum is physically impossible - there are not enough minerals on the planet to do it.

The entire movement is based on the Malthusian idea that we need to kill off more than half of the world's population. That is the one provable aspect of the entire green movement. Maybe a human rights approach might work.

Or maybe we need a new strategy. One that demands an increase in the use of petroleum. It might work.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 03, 2023 11:20 AM (lTGtQ)

88 Is there any religious belief more ingrained in human history than the conviction that bad weather and natural disasters are caused because of sinful human behavior? That atavistic belief is the foundation of the climate agenda.

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It goes deeper than that for the Leftist Homicidal-Suicidal Death Cult. It's not just human behavior that they see as sinful, but it's human existence that they see as a Gaia-murdering virus that must be eradicated.

Excellent report, Buck!

[BTW, ICYMI from last night's ONT post by WeirdDave and his Musical Interlude of "Thunderstruck" being covered by the Finnish bluegrass band Steve'n'Seagulls. And yes, it includes a stand-up bass ...]

Posted by: ShainS -- Transgenderism is the Tip of the Transhumanism Spear at March 03, 2023 11:20 AM (PnkSq)

89 I am also looking forward to the day when I can drive around with an unlicensed nuclear accelerator in my large automobile.

Posted by: Archer at March 03, 2023 11:20 AM (gmo/4)

90 70 I am convinced that petroleum is constantly being created by nature. We could, form time to time, remove it faster than it can be produced by nature, but we can never use it all up permanently.
Posted by: Archer at March 03, 2023 11:17 AM (gmo/4)

Remember the Canadian Tar Sands that was such a big deal a few years ago? Fracking and directional drilling came on the scene and made it uneconomical to extract.

Tar Sands are a premature phase of petroleum production.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 03, 2023 11:20 AM (Y5qcH)

91 I am convinced that petroleum is constantly being created by nature. We could, form time to time, remove it faster than it can be produced by nature, but we can never use it all up permanently.

Posted by: Archer at March 03, 2023 11:17 AM (gmo/4)
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I too believe in abiotic petroleum production. An old oil engineer explained it once to me and backed it up with facts.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at March 03, 2023 11:20 AM (17s+e)

92 61 Also: vegan leather (formerly known as "pleather") is made using . . .polyurethane!

Not more Corfams? O, no, what will we do? ?

Posted by: Fox 2! at March 03, 2023 11:20 AM (qyH+l)

93 It's such a dire crisis that every year hundreds of politicians and activists have to burn millions of gallons of oil to fly first class to Paris, Hawaii and Bali to discuss ways to perpetuate, I mean, solve the crisis

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at March 03, 2023 11:21 AM (0o1N8)

94 Nurse I would and you probably already have is sharing with her that accepting the position that man made climate change is minuscule at most does not mean you abandon all conservation positions.

Posted by: polynikes at March 03, 2023 11:21 AM (Oivbi)

95 NOAA also does things like using just one weather station for all of the Canadian Arctic and extrapolate its temperatures for the entire region rather than use the real temperatures from the 100 Canadian weather stations. [There's a South American country they do it for too. I think Paraguay.]

An Australian state did a similar thing I read at Tim Blair's blog a long time ago, probably by Oz's federal climate agency.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 03, 2023 11:21 AM (Vwz3I)

96 80 @42
In response to those who maintain that everything Josh Hawley and others do is just theater, here's what's happening now on Covid origins, thanks in part to a bill sponsored by Hawley, and just passed unanimously by the Senate.

Posted by: Archimedes at March 03, 2023 11:19 AM (eOEVl)

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Will it lead to a single punishment of a single official?

Oh, civil servant laws prevent that and the courts would side with the civil servants?

Any talk of addressing these errors starts with the assumption that nothing of any substance will actually happen. It's a pretty safe bet considering the literal decades we have now of committee actions leading to nothing.

Lois Lerner still has her pension.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 03, 2023 11:21 AM (LvTSG)

97 If we discover petrochemicals and carbon materials on Mars or Jupiter's moons, are we going to start supposing that dinosaurs once lived there?
Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at March 03, 2023 11:05 AM (GD2xa)

LOL!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 03, 2023 11:21 AM (Zz0t1)

98 Normally humans taste very bitter.

Posted by: Jaws Flay at March 03, 2023 11:21 AM (OhaV5)

99 'Member peak oil?

I 'member.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Which year?
I believe I 'member 5 "Peak Oil" announcements. IIRC the earliest was in National Geographic in the '70s.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at March 03, 2023 11:21 AM (SUzFC)

100 And speaking of weather stations... I know some of y'all have fairly elaborate setups at home and I would like a recommendation for one that is not too $$$ but will record rainfall in addition to temp/humidity/pressure and keep some history that I can periodically download to a local spreadsheet or sqlite DB via bluetooth or wifi.

Posted by: Oddbob at March 03, 2023 11:22 AM (nfrXX)

101 Here in East Texas, we've been getting warm wet air from the Gulf, and Spring in every real sense started at least a week ago, which was about 3 works earlier than usual. Lots of rain last night, but the cold front only took temps back down to the 50's, and it feels quite nice out today.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 03, 2023 11:22 AM (trdmm)

102 So when scientists first saw the genome of the SARS-CoV-2 virus at the end of January 2020, with its furin cleavage site, alarm bells rang and a handful of virologists arranged a secret video conference call on 1 February to discuss it. Even more alarming was the fact that the paper from the Wuhan Institute of Virology describing the virus genome did not even mention this feature and truncated a diagram just short of where it would show up. That, says my co-author Alina Chan, is like describing a unicorn without mentioning the horn.

But some of the same scientists who attended that call then drafted a paper in which they dismissed the furin cleavage site as irrelevant. They said that a natural horseshoe-bat sarbecovirus would soon be found with a furin cleavage site in it. Well, they were wrong about that. Three years later, lots more sarbecoviruses have come to light in bats, and a couple in pangolins, and none has a furin cleavage site. Not one.

..

after his call with Dr. Fauci on February 1, 2020, Dr. Anderson was given a $1.88 million grant and $16.5 million in funding from NIAID, Dr. Fauci’s personal piggy bank.

Posted by: SMOD at March 03, 2023 11:22 AM (RHGPo)

103 That Petroleum graphic reminded me of the "Zinc Oxide and You" segment from Kentucky Fried Movie.

Posted by: red speck at March 03, 2023 11:22 AM (gS3OW)

104 Thanks Buck, great post and job here.

While it's legit and helpful to marshal other things (like compassion) in the effort to fight off this disastrous lysenkoism, it's secondary at best.

If the central unsubstantiated (and outlandish, actually) hypothesis of anthropogenic climate change is not confronted and debunked, then one is merely fighting a disorderly retreat, and ensuring enormous losses along the way.

Those you mention rejecting *any* change whatsoever in use of fossil fuels are absolutely correct, and not only is that the scientifically/logically correct, but anything else/less merely concedes massive ground and prolongs the relentless cult/grift/totalitarian onslaught.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 03, 2023 11:22 AM (OTzUX)

105 To borrow a phrase from a somewhat controversial leader in July 1942 - "not a step back!".

Posted by: rhomboid at March 03, 2023 11:22 AM (OTzUX)

106 Inspector mentioned recently that electric train engines, the ones that are supposed to do all the moving of goods and people when Net Zero goes into effect, create their electricity with a diesel generator. I could only stare at him in horror as I sudenly realized *just* how truly fucked the world will be if warmenists get their way. They have *no* idea how much of their precious alternatives work only because of oil. The world commerce that they depend on to maintain their positions will come to a halt with a shriek of unlubricated metal and a whimper of an engine with no power.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at March 03, 2023 11:13 AM (nC+QA)

There are electric locomotives, and diesel-electric locomotives. They are not the same thing. Electric locomotives run on electrified railways that supply power to the loco by means of an overhead wire or a third rail. They carry no fuel.

Diesel-electric locomotives, which are seen all over North America, have a Diesel engine which drives a generator. which then drives electric motors in the loco's wheel trucks. That allows the motors to deliver full torque at zero forward speed.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 03, 2023 11:23 AM (tkR6S)

107 The sharks lure people in with ice cream
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at March 03, 2023 11:16 AM (J7V8O)

Then why hasn't resident poopy pants been eaten by a shark?

Posted by: Archer at March 03, 2023 11:23 AM (gmo/4)

108 Will it lead to a single punishment of a single official?

Perhaps we should wait the 90 days after the bill passes to start saying it didn't work.

Posted by: Archimedes at March 03, 2023 11:23 AM (eOEVl)

109 Legos? Please. The "Things Made From Oil" display must have been designed by someone who never was barefoot in a house with small children.

Posted by: Eeyore at March 03, 2023 11:23 AM (TgBWG)

110 19 I have to say, the climate really does seems to be trolling the climate communists. Every time they predict something, it seems to do the opposite.

It's impossible to be wrong as consistently as climate cultists are, something else must be afoot.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 03, 2023 11:06 AM (Y5qcH)

Maybe there’s some Divine Intervention there at least as far as the outfit called “NOAA” goes.

Noah > NOAA

Posted by: Rex B at March 03, 2023 11:23 AM (81wK+)

111 Dang.
Looking at Deanna Durbin makes me want to put on the wide lapel suit, spats, the fedora and have every one call me Slats.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 03, 2023 11:23 AM (anj39)

112
Then why hasn't resident poopy pants been eaten by a shark?

Posted by: Archer at March 03, 2023 11:23 AM (gmo/4)

They won't let him in the ocean.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 03, 2023 11:24 AM (Zz0t1)

113 An easy solution to climate change.

Climate warming--take the jacket off.

Climate cooling--put the damn jacket back on.

Or do as all life did and does--adapt to the particular.

Posted by: irongrampa at March 03, 2023 11:24 AM (KATBx)

114 In response to those who maintain that everything Josh Hawley and others do is just theater, here's what's happening now on Covid origins, thanks in part to a bill sponsored by Hawley, and just passed unanimously by the Senate.

No. I suspect the pols already knew the answers they're pretending to dig up (Just as Hancock and Boris in UK did) and will give them a firm talking to and decide that they will never do it again. It's more than theater, it's a cover up

Posted by: CN at March 03, 2023 11:24 AM (Zzbjj)

115 Lauren Boebert...yum...

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at March 03, 2023 11:24 AM (ufFY8)

116 Funny to see "Peak Oil" mentioned. DU actually has an entire sub-forum dedicated to it! Peak oil is hitting us right now, there is some question as to when peak Natural Gas will hit but it Will hit. We are finding many little oil fields and not the giants that are needed to keep our society going

New exploration and extraction technologies, and more desperation. It's a shame, really, that we can keep finding new reserves and keep designing new ways to get at it. "Peak Oil" as a moment in time keeps shifting due to changes in technology.

Abiotic oil is like the Loch Ness monster, Atlantis and black republican presidential candidates....fakes.

Shell says oil is on its way out!! In a Thursday statement, the fossil fuel giant said its “oil production peaked in 2019,” and that we can now expect it to decline gradually by 1 or 2% per year. Shell also said its total carbon emissions peaked in 2018 at 1.7 gigatonnes.

Does Mitch McConnell use Shell Oil to improve his luster?

Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison at March 03, 2023 11:24 AM (JCZqz)

117 Pretty sure if we toss AOC into a volcano things would cool down.

Posted by: Puddinhead at March 03, 2023 11:24 AM (xSnmX)

118
Perhaps we should wait the 90 days after the bill passes to start saying it didn't work.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 03, 2023 11:23 AM (eOEVl)

This is the only way to know what's in it.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 03, 2023 11:24 AM (Zz0t1)

119 I sudenly realized *just* how truly fucked the world will be if warmenists get their way. They have *no* idea how much of their precious alternatives work only because of oil. The world commerce that they depend on to maintain their positions will come to a halt with a shriek of unlubricated metal and a whimper of an engine with no power.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette

Without petroleum, the world cannot support more than about 3 billion people at most. Subtract the current population from that number, and you see the green movement's goal.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 03, 2023 11:25 AM (lTGtQ)

120 108 Will it lead to a single punishment of a single official?

Perhaps we should wait the 90 days after the bill passes to start saying it didn't work.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 03, 2023 11:23 AM (eOEVl)

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My experience of Congressional ineptitude and impotence is simply too strong.

I do not think that Mitch would allow the passage of anything that led to any material change to the bureaucracy. I do not think that Schumer would allow it. I do not think that Biden would allow it.

Those people support this and helped it pass? Yeah, nothing's going to fucking happen.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 03, 2023 11:25 AM (LvTSG)

121 It's a picture of a truck driving down a freeway with the electrical grid overhead, like the old electric trolley cars of yesteryear.

We're going backwards........
Posted by: Sponge

As long as there are a plethora of those new small nuke plants all over the place I will have no problem with electric 'long haul' cable trucks.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at March 03, 2023 11:25 AM (SUzFC)

122 An easy solution to climate change.

Climate warming--take the jacket off.

Climate cooling--put the damn jacket back on.

Or do as all life did and does--adapt to the particular.
Posted by: irongrampa at March 03, 2023 11:24 AM (KATBx)

It's reminds one of the Aggie weather rock.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 03, 2023 11:25 AM (Zz0t1)

123 For humans and all other life on earth, being warmer is much much better than being colder. Another pooint that the warmist propagandists are wrong on.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at March 03, 2023 11:25 AM (17s+e)

124 I use my Injun weather rock in the backyard.

If the rock is wet, it's raining.
If the rock is swinging, the wind is blowing.
If the rock casts a shadow, the sun is shining.
If the rock does not cast a shadow and is not wet, the sky is cloudy.
If the rock is difficult to see, it is foggy.
If the rock is white, it is snowing.
If the rock is coated with ice, there is a frost.
If the ice is thick, it's a heavy frost.
If the rock is bouncing, there is an earthquake.
If the rock is glowing and starting to melt, Xi has dropped a thermonuclear device on us.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 03, 2023 11:25 AM (E+05M)

125 Baskin-Robbins delivery.

Posted by: land shark at March 03, 2023 11:25 AM (Vwz3I)

126 I'll be damned if I'm going to gas up my truck with two-million-year-old Martian dinosaur goo!

Posted by: Muldoon at March 03, 2023 11:25 AM (ykeLU)

127 Posted by: Skip at March 03, 2023 11:18 AM (HY3gN)

50 years ago they were saying 20 years until it was gone. That, and their slavering eagerness to see poor brown people die off, was what clued my dad into the fact that "peak oil" was a scam to gain control.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at March 03, 2023 11:26 AM (nC+QA)

128 My experience of Congressional ineptitude and impotence is simply too strong.

I do not think that Mitch would allow the passage of anything that led to any material change to the bureaucracy. I do not think that Schumer would allow it. I do not think that Biden would allow it.

Those people support this and helped it pass? Yeah, nothing's going to fucking happen.

I knew that you would simply dismiss it, so no surprise there. But do you really think it would pass unanimously if the usual rules were in play?

Posted by: Archimedes at March 03, 2023 11:26 AM (eOEVl)

129 Diesel-electric locomotives, which are seen all over North America, have a Diesel engine which drives a generator. which then drives electric motors in the loco's wheel trucks. That allows the motors to deliver full torque at zero forward speed.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 03, 2023 11:23 AM (tkR6S)

Yeah, I'm kinda surprised that no one has developed a car based on that. Seems like something we could easily do now.

Honda did have something similar with one Hybrid Accord model that was interesting. The engine only drove a generator at low speed and clutched in at high way speeds. There wasn't a transmission in the car at all. It was pretty interesting, but I don't think it sold at all.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 03, 2023 11:26 AM (Y5qcH)

130 Those people support this and helped it pass? Yeah, nothing's going to fucking happen.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 03, 2023 11:25 AM (LvTSG)

Yes, we are back to failure theater and pretend tough action.

Posted by: CN at March 03, 2023 11:26 AM (Zzbjj)

131 128 I knew that you would simply dismiss it, so no surprise there. But do you really think it would pass unanimously if the usual rules were in play?
Posted by: Archimedes at March 03, 2023 11:26 AM (eOEVl)

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Yes. That makes it more likely the usual rules are in play.

Dr. Fauci will continue to collect his full pension until the day he dies. And he will get a state funeral in the Capitol.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 03, 2023 11:27 AM (LvTSG)

132 99 'Member peak oil?
I 'member.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
Which year?
I believe I 'member 5 "Peak Oil" announcements. IIRC the earliest was in National Geographic in the '70s.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at March 03, 2023 11:21 AM (SUzFC)

I remember going into it quite a bit at the time, and for a tim e in the 80's I even believed it. Rather than just passing it off, I think t's worth noting exactly why the predictions failed so badlly. This was before the leftists did away with actual science, and Hubbard, who made these predictions in the 1950's, used good scientific methods and good math to come up with them. So why was he wrong?

Because he didn't account fo r the implicit assumption, "As long as extraction technology stays the same." It didn't. Fracking and other related technologies, starting in th e 90's, to get many multiples of what they were able to produce before, and also to go back to fiels that were thought dead, and restart them. New Technology - it's why Malthusian economics is ALWAYS wrong.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 03, 2023 11:27 AM (trdmm)

133 Also: vegan leather (formerly known as "pleather") is made using . . .polyurethane!

It's amazing how inorganic the products that alleged earth-huggers promote are these days.
Fake meat and dairy is Frankenfood
Posted by: Lizzy at March 03, 2023 11:15 AM (mqu1M)

But they insist that people starve in Africa rather than provide them with GMO food. And also want to mandate bioengineered vaccines to these same people.

Psychopaths. All of them.

Posted by: polynikes at March 03, 2023 11:27 AM (Oivbi)

134 > Peak oil is hitting us right now,

Yeah, I suspect we only have a thousand or two years left. Just in the US.

Posted by: Fool Otto at March 03, 2023 11:27 AM (DB16e)

135 It takes VAST amounts of hydrocarbons to build an EV.

In other good news I know nothing about this company or its content but if Laurene Powell Jobs was funding it I'll assume evil. RIP Ozy.

https://tinyurl.com/4e6y7sky

Posted by: JEM at March 03, 2023 11:27 AM (8erNz)

136 How do I know climate change is a scam?

Because everything associated with it is a net negative.

No one talks of longer growing seasons or the potential health benefits of shorter winters.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 03, 2023 11:27 AM (KbCG3)

137 I knew that you would simply dismiss it, so no surprise there. But do you really think it would pass unanimously if the usual rules were in play?

More to the point, you and others refuse to accept that Hawley is doing what he can to make things happen, and that he's made a good start. He can't complete everything because he's not the Gestapo, but you'd equally criticize him if he'd done nothing.

Posted by: Archimedes at March 03, 2023 11:28 AM (eOEVl)

138 Which year?
I believe I 'member 5 "Peak Oil" announcements. IIRC the earliest was in National Geographic in the '70s.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron

That means you were a youngster in the 70's. Wikipedia says the Peak Oil scares have been going on since the 1880's (!)

https://bit.ly/41Hp4zM

Posted by: t-bird at March 03, 2023 11:29 AM (e2onP)

139 Heh.

This just came across the playlist.

https://youtu.be/QAqINhejokU

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 03, 2023 11:29 AM (Zz0t1)

140 Fudgie the Whale delivery.

Posted by: land shark at March 03, 2023 11:29 AM (Vwz3I)

141 136 How do I know climate change is a scam?

Because everything associated with it is a net negative.

No one talks of longer growing seasons or the potential health benefits of shorter winters.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 03, 2023 11:27 AM (KbCG3)

Oh, the other sure sign of a scam: everything can be fixed if you just give them money. Everyone knows that carbon reacts differently when it has been taxed.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 03, 2023 11:29 AM (KbCG3)

142 137 More to the point, you and others refuse to accept that Hawley is doing what he can to make things happen, and that he's made a good start. He can't complete everything because he's not the Gestapo, but you'd equally criticize him if he'd done nothing.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 03, 2023 11:28 AM (eOEVl)

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The minority in the Senate can't do much of anything at all. Failure theater is designed for fundraising and not actual results.

The action that can happen is in the House.

Start the budget process now. Cut funding of NIH to nothing. Also the DOJ. And both DOEs. Send the bill to the Senate. Go home for a year. In the Senate, I would applaud Hawley drinking on the floor and laughing at unemployed NIH bureaucrats.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 03, 2023 11:30 AM (LvTSG)

143 Long distance EV's don't really need a super long extension cord. All you have to do is install an outlet right there in the dashboard.

Duh!

Posted by: Muldoon at March 03, 2023 11:30 AM (ykeLU)

144 One of my favorite bit of propaganda was the National Forest Service putting up sign that glaciers would be gone in 2020. Then removing those signs because the glaciers were still there.

I wonder how many millions that scare propaganda cost the taxpayers.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at March 03, 2023 11:30 AM (17s+e)

145 Oh, the other sure sign of a scam: everything can be fixed if you just give them money. Everyone knows that carbon reacts differently when it has been taxed.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 03, 2023 11:29 AM (KbCG3)

And creating poorly defined financial securities with no tangible value has always worked out so well in the past.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 03, 2023 11:31 AM (UuD2k)

146 Remember the Canadian Tar Sands that was such a big deal a few years ago? Fracking and directional drilling came on the scene and made it uneconomical to extract.

Tar Sands are a premature phase of petroleum production.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 03, 2023 11:20 AM (Y5qcH)

In case you missed it, the Tar Sands (now renamed Oil Sands), are going strong, and producing a metric fuckton of crude every year. New investment in the play has fallen off, but that is due more to low crude prices, and lack of pipeline capacity to ship it to market. The resource remains there, and is very exploitable, should the need arise.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 03, 2023 11:31 AM (tkR6S)

147 Without petroleum, the world cannot support more than about 3 billion people at most. Subtract the current population from that number, and you see the green movement's goal.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 03, 2023 11:25 AM (lTGtQ)
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I know math isn't allowed around here, but 3 billion - 8 billion = -5 billion.

But I know what you mean! The Left wants a population of no more than 3 billion and are doing EVERYTHING in their power to achieve that goal, up to and including starting nuclear war.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 03, 2023 11:31 AM (YIVH2)

148 One wonders how the Flintstones car only needed foot to ground power, then would run miles and miles without fail.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 03, 2023 11:31 AM (Zz0t1)

149 Another day and more headline of "Jim Jordan DEMANDS!!!"

LOLGF

Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 03, 2023 11:31 AM (E+05M)

150
Nobody operating within existing Party structures can effect any meaningful change whatsoever, and anything they do is masturbatory theater.

It's all a shell game.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 03, 2023 11:31 AM (oINRc)

151 Shell says oil is on its way out!! In a Thursday statement, the fossil fuel giant said its “oil production peaked in 2019,”

Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison

What is funny is that Shell itself is on the way out. Their green movement has lowered their book value to the point that they and BP are now candidates to be bought out by a real oil company.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 03, 2023 11:32 AM (lTGtQ)

152 150
Nobody operating within existing Party structures can effect any meaningful change whatsoever, and anything they do is masturbatory theater.

It's all a shell game.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 03, 2023 11:31 AM (oINRc)

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But the Senate passed a bill! This time they got 'em!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 03, 2023 11:32 AM (LvTSG)

153

It's reminds one of the Aggie weather rock.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 03, 2023 11:25 AM (Zz0t1)

124 I use my Injun weather rock in the backyard.

If the rock is wet, it's raining.
If the rock is swinging, the wind is blowing.
If the rock casts a shadow, the sun is shining.
If the rock does not cast a shadow and is not wet, the sky is cloudy.
If the rock is difficult to see, it is foggy.
If the rock is white, it is snowing.
If the rock is coated with ice, there is a frost.
If the ice is thick, it's a heavy frost.
If the rock is bouncing, there is an earthquake.
If the rock is glowing and starting to melt, Xi has dropped a thermonuclear device on us.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 03, 2023 11:25 AM (E+05M)

Same difference.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 03, 2023 11:32 AM (Zz0t1)

154 >Start the budget process now.

Massie has been asking for this to happen. He'll get ignored.

Posted by: Fool Otto at March 03, 2023 11:32 AM (DB16e)

155 That means you were a youngster in the 70's. Wikipedia says the Peak Oil scares have been going on since the 1880's (!)

https://bit.ly/41Hp4zM
Posted by: t-bird at March 03, 2023 11:29 AM (e2onP)

It has, and it's because everyone who pushes it makes the same Malthusian mistake as the last bunch did. They get away with it because doomsaying always sells, and people who don't understand anything at all about energy are easily spooked.

A great irony is that now, when there should be serious panic across Europe about their failing energy infrastructure, the same people who pushed all the doom talk before are now saying "ah, don't worry your pretty little heads about it, it'll be fine. Trust us!"

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 03, 2023 11:33 AM (trdmm)

156 Cookie Puss.

Posted by: land shark at March 03, 2023 11:33 AM (Vwz3I)

157 Yes. That makes it more likely the usual rules are in play.

Dr. Fauci will continue to collect his full pension until the day he dies. And he will get a state funeral in the Capitol.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 03, 2023 11:27 AM (LvTSG)

Yes. We can tell this is true by how quickly they turn their attention to Almond milk and fake standing up to China. BTW, Naomi Wolf states that BioNTech is a Chinese company. They have recently opened several sites in the US, including here in Princeton, which is no surprise, Princeton being home to many fed contractors including those for the DoD.

Posted by: CN at March 03, 2023 11:33 AM (Zzbjj)

158 148 One wonders how the Flintstones car only needed foot to ground power, then would run miles and miles without fail.
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Everything is downhill in Bedrock.

Posted by: Puddinhead at March 03, 2023 11:33 AM (xSnmX)

159 In case you missed it, the Tar Sands (now renamed Oil Sands), are going strong, and producing a metric fuckton of crude every year. New investment in the play has fallen off, but that is due more to low crude prices, and lack of pipeline capacity to ship it to market. The resource remains there, and is very exploitable, should the need arise.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 03, 2023 11:31 AM (tkR6S)

Yeah, I remember reading that the proven reserves of the Canadian Oil Sands is greater than Saudi Arabia's proven reserves. They just require at high oil price than what we have been running to make economic sense.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 03, 2023 11:34 AM (UuD2k)

160 Frostpunk soundtrack

https://youtu.be/ue5OgiUists

Tragic and beautiful string section. A lot of grim-story games came out a couple years ago.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at March 03, 2023 11:34 AM (44ww/)

161 "A virtual speech by Federal Reserve Governor Christopher Waller was canceled on Thursday after a participant “highjacked” the Zoom call by showing pornography on his screen."

A likely story..,

Posted by: runner at March 03, 2023 11:34 AM (Nw6sz)

162 McCarthy’s China mission: Give Biden a ‘backbone,’ ‘empower’ him to tackle the CCP threat
******

That is from McCarthy's twitter page. Empowering Biden? And who is donating the backbone, Fetterman?

Posted by: CN at March 03, 2023 11:35 AM (Zzbjj)

163 How do I know climate change is a scam?

All the usual suspects are behind it and they're very emotional about it.

"Ah, the experts! That means just needs common sense to refute it all."

Posted by: t-bird at March 03, 2023 11:35 AM (ptElO)

164 What is funny is that Shell itself is on the way out. Their green movement has lowered their book value to the point that they and BP are now candidates to be bought out by a real oil company.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 03, 2023 11:32 AM (lTGtQ)

Both Shell and BP were too closely allied with the EU's political structure, and they've been taken over by purely political players. Neither should be considered to be a serious energy player anymore. BTW, the biggest obstacle to a takeover of either of them is all the political interference from the EU that comes along with them.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 03, 2023 11:35 AM (trdmm)

165 In case you missed it, the Tar Sands (now renamed Oil Sands), are going strong, and producing a metric fuckton of crude every year. New investment in the play has fallen off, but that is due more to low crude prices, and lack of pipeline capacity to ship it to market. The resource remains there, and is very exploitable, should the need arise.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

I am pretty sure that the provable oil in the tar sands is larger than the provable reserves in Saudi Arabia.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 03, 2023 11:36 AM (lTGtQ)

166 What is funny is that Shell itself is on the way out. Their green movement has lowered their book value to the point that they and BP are now candidates to be bought out by a real oil company.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 03, 2023 11:32 AM (lTGtQ)

Likely Chinese or Russian and this has not been unintentional. Many of the climate change NGO's are paid by foreign adversaries to hurt Western companies. It's been pretty damn effective too.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 03, 2023 11:36 AM (UuD2k)

167 If I ask why people think global warming is actually happening I get a couple of responses.

1. They have read or heard about in the media.

2. They feel, FEEL, that it makes sense.

You can't debate facts with a person like that.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at March 03, 2023 11:36 AM (17s+e)

168 And creating poorly defined financial securities with no tangible value has always worked out so well in the past.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 03, 2023 11:31 AM (UuD2k)

Whatever could you possibly mean?

Posted by: Credit default swaps and subprime mortgage based financial derivatives at March 03, 2023 11:36 AM (YdDJ9)

169 I have to say, the climate really does seems to be trolling the climate communists. Every time they predict something, it seems to do the opposite.

It's impossible to be wrong as consistently as climate cultists are, something else must be afoot.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 03, 2023 11:06 AM (Y5qcH)

Look, I'm not saying that God has a sense of humor but the fact that He has a snowstorm follow AlGore everywhere certainly implies it.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 03, 2023 11:37 AM (uvymP)

170 164 What is funny is that Shell itself is on the way out. Their green movement has lowered their book value to the point that they and BP are now candidates to be bought out by a real oil company.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 03, 2023 11:32 AM (lTGtQ)
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Sort of describes all of Europe as Up for Sale.

Posted by: Puddinhead at March 03, 2023 11:37 AM (xSnmX)

171 Yeah, I remember reading that the proven reserves of the Canadian Oil Sands is greater than Saudi Arabia's proven reserves. They just require at high oil price than what we have been running to make economic sense.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 03, 2023 11:34 AM (UuD2k)

When I was working up there, I believe oil was running over $100 per barrel (2010). Chatting with some people up there, they said the construction costs (in 10’s of billions) of the facility makes economic sense as long as the price stayed above $80/barrel.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at March 03, 2023 11:37 AM (YwyqV)

172 Brutal. Biden nominee.
https://tinyurl.com/4madajjz
Rumble link.

Posted by: Fool Otto at March 03, 2023 11:37 AM (DB16e)

173 There are electric locomotives, and diesel-electric locomotives. They are not the same thing. Electric locomotives run on electrified railways that supply power to the loco by means of an overhead wire or a third rail. They carry no fuel.

Pennsylvania Rail Road GG-1 motors had oil-fired steam generators for heating passenger cars. Even if they lost power in the catenary, they could still keep the paying customers happy.

Posted by: Fox 2! at March 03, 2023 11:37 AM (qyH+l)

174 -----------------
Sort of describes all of Europe as Up for Sale.
Posted by: Puddinhead at March 03, 2023 11:37 AM (xSnmX)

When you need a bailout......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 03, 2023 11:37 AM (Zz0t1)

175 Diesel-electric locomotives, which are seen all over North America, have a Diesel engine which drives a generator. which then drives electric motors in the loco's wheel trucks. That allows the motors to deliver full torque at zero forward speed.

... back in my college "Motors" course, they talked about how they had tried to use synchronous motors on railway trains. Synchronous motors are great for maintaining a constant speed (that's why they are in most refrigeration systems, etc) but they don't change speed when confronted with a change in load. The result -- the wheels keep spinning at the same speed when on a heavy slope .. eventually thru the rails

Posted by: SMOD at March 03, 2023 11:38 AM (RHGPo)

176 Start the budget process now.

Massie has been asking for this to happen. He'll get ignored.
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The budget is about the only real power the House has. Oversight used to mean something until the Executive learned it can ignore it with no consequences. Which is why, as my learned cynical response is informing me, the budget process will be deliberately fumbled by McCarthy and we'll end up with another CR.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at March 03, 2023 11:38 AM (fs1hN)

177 One wonders how the Flintstones car only needed foot to ground power, then would run miles and miles without fail.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 03, 2023 11:31 AM (Zz0t1)

There's momentum in those big ass stone tires. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 03, 2023 11:38 AM (VwHCD)

178 Another day and more headline of "Jim Jordan DEMANDS!!!"

LOLGF
Posted by: Maj. Healey

Yep. Even the amount of 'stern' can't cover the facts. All performative BS.

Gaetz on the warroom responds to what about the debt ceiling -- oh, no we can't....

The only leverage that exists is budgetary and all the fake MAGAs and every last rino and lefty knows that isn't going to happen. So, old boss meets new boss.

Pathetically tiring.

Posted by: micky at March 03, 2023 11:38 AM (3byMq)

179 Yeah, I remember reading that the proven reserves of the Canadian Oil Sands is greater than Saudi Arabia's proven reserves. They just require at high oil price than what we have been running to make economic sense.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 03, 2023 11:34 AM (UuD2k)

The existing oilsands extraction plants, both the surface mines, and the SAG-D operations, continue to make a profit. But the capital cost to start new ones is very high, which deters investment in new capacity.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 03, 2023 11:39 AM (tkR6S)

180 ... back in my college "Motors" course, they talked about how they had tried to use synchronous motors on railway trains. Synchronous motors are great for maintaining a constant speed (that's why they are in most refrigeration systems, etc) but they don't change speed when confronted with a change in load. The result -- the wheels keep spinning at the same speed when on a heavy slope .. eventually thru the rails
Posted by: SMOD at March 03, 2023 11:38 AM (RHGPo)

Yeah, pole slippage. hehe

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 03, 2023 11:39 AM (UuD2k)

181 176 The budget is about the only real power the House has. Oversight used to mean something until the Executive learned it can ignore it with no consequences. Which is why, as my learned cynical response is informing me, the budget process will be deliberately fumbled by McCarthy and we'll end up with another CR.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at March 03, 2023 11:38 AM (fs1hN)

=========

We may end up with a real series of budget bills that fully fund everything the Biden administration wants except one line item thing that the GOPe will use as great fundraising fodder. No more cowboy poetry, or something.

Whether by budget process or CR, McCarthy will cave, though.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 03, 2023 11:39 AM (LvTSG)

182 Brutal. Biden nominee.
https://tinyurl.com/4madajjz
Rumble link.
Posted by: Fool Otto at March 03, 2023 11:37 AM (DB16e)

How DARE they think someone should be qualified by anything OTHER than skin color or sexual perversion for any position in a Biden administration.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 03, 2023 11:39 AM (Zz0t1)

183 The Euros are now burning coal at the highest rate ever in recorded history, and cutting down their forests at the fastest rate in history, all because they wanted to save the planet. Pretty funny, if you think about it.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 03, 2023 11:40 AM (lTGtQ)

184 the budget process will be deliberately fumbled by McCarthy and we'll end up with another CR.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at March 03, 2023 11:38 AM

*sigh*
Even what’s-his-face from Ohio (the one before Paul Ryan) got some concessions from Obama. Gave back all the leverage over the next year, but did get something at least initially.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at March 03, 2023 11:40 AM (YwyqV)

185 Pathetically tiring.
Posted by: micky at March 03, 2023 11:38 AM (3byMq)

Both sides got rid of Trump so they could return to these pathetic reruns and go back to their old roles. Some said "they can't" but they have, and people are again believing the spectacle.

Posted by: CN at March 03, 2023 11:40 AM (Zzbjj)

186 That means you were a youngster in the 70's. Wikipedia says the Peak Oil scares have been going on since the 1880's (!)

https://bit.ly/41Hp4zM
Posted by: t-bird

Well I am a member in good standing of the '29 year old' squad.

Was it Standard Oil who bought all the land they could find with oil over 10 ft underground because the then current consensus was that it couldn't be recovered.
If I remember correctly Standard Oil went on to become the largest/richest oil company (John D. Rockefeller?).

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at March 03, 2023 11:40 AM (SUzFC)

187 Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison at March 03, 2023 11:24 AM (JCZqz)

Lol, at the last comment. That could have come from here.

If we are already experiencing peak oil, wouldn't we also be in peak natural gas?

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at March 03, 2023 11:40 AM (nC+QA)

188 Well, isn't that special.....

The German defense Minister said yesterday that the German military can't defend the country if they are attacked and can't help NATO Allies if a treaty country is attacked.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 03, 2023 11:41 AM (uNylN)

189 My friend in high school drove an old beater wear the floor boards had rusted through and you could see the pavement. We called his car the Flintstone mobile.

Posted by: polynikes at March 03, 2023 11:41 AM (Oivbi)

190 The other thing the climate cultists do is redefine the measurements. I expect a Cat 1 hurricane to be rounded down from the current 74MPH sustained winds to something significantly lower. Thus, more hurricanes. Same for high heat warnings associated with the so-called "heat index."

Once they've redefined the measurements they can more readily "prove" their insane hypothesis that humans are causing global warming.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 03, 2023 11:11 AM (Q4IgG)

Sacramento is bracing for Breeze Marion with windspeeds up to 3 mph. The Biden Administration has declared and emergency and will be send any money leftover after this week's allotment to Ukraine.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 03, 2023 11:41 AM (uvymP)

191 Both Shell and BP were too closely allied with the EU's political structure, and they've been taken over by purely political players.

I was at a week-long class at Harvard several years ago, talking about government reactions to disasters. We had a speaker from the Obama administration talking about the BP oil spill in the Gulf.

At first, Obama's team were bashing BP relentlessly, talking about the billions in damage they were responsible for. Eventually, the Prime Minister called Obama, and said something like 70% of British retirement accounts depend on BP stocks, and Obama's rhetoric is tanking the value and causing a major crisis.

Obama's team suddenly shifted rhetoric, praised BPs response, and talked about the joint effort to clean the spill and use technology to prevent future "accidents", because BP was a victim of faulty equipment, not poor (and legally liable) planning and oversight.

Posted by: Military Moron at March 03, 2023 11:41 AM (JCZqz)

192 Where =wear

Posted by: polynikes at March 03, 2023 11:41 AM (Oivbi)

193 The existing oilsands extraction plants, both the surface mines, and the SAG-D operations, continue to make a profit. But the capital cost to start new ones is very high, which deters investment in new capacity.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 03, 2023 11:39 AM (tkR6S)

Don't they also have higher energy cost compared to conventional drilling? It's not shooting out of a hole under it's own pressure. And I seem to remember that they had to use a lot of steam to free it from the sand.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 03, 2023 11:42 AM (UuD2k)

194 We live on the coast and listen to NOAA weather radio Marine Forecast which is accurate 99 percent of the time. The NOAA inland forecast is rarely correct. The temp is always off by about 5-10 degrees.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 03, 2023 11:42 AM (E+05M)

195 183 The Euros are now burning coal at the highest rate ever in recorded history, and cutting down their forests at the fastest rate in history, all because they wanted to save the planet. Pretty funny, if you think about it.
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Yep. Just don't tell Greta about it.

Posted by: Puddinhead at March 03, 2023 11:42 AM (xSnmX)

196 I double as the bidet.

Posted by: Fred Flinstone's elephant shower at March 03, 2023 11:42 AM (+Wcyp)

197 One wonders how the Flintstones car only needed foot to ground power, then would run miles and miles without fail.
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Everything is downhill in Bedrock.

Posted by: Puddinhead at March 03, 2023 11:33 AM (xSnmX)

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Bedrock was the first master-planned community based on an Escher drawing.

Posted by: ShainS -- Transgenderism is the Tip of the Transhumanism Spear at March 03, 2023 11:42 AM (PnkSq)

198 they are just rushing this crap cuz they hate old folks like me

they just want to ruin what little time we have left

it's a conspiracy, I tell ya

*scratches ass*

Posted by: REDACTED at March 03, 2023 11:43 AM (us2H3)

199 we are already experiencing peak oil, wouldn't we also be in peak natural gas?
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at March 03, 2023 11:40 AM (nC+QA)

I was in peak natural gas after I had lunch at our local Mexican joint the other day

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at March 03, 2023 11:43 AM (ufFY8)

200 The German defense Minister said yesterday that the German military can't defend the country if they are attacked and can't help NATO Allies if a treaty country is attacked.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS)
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LMFAO... This was true in the early 2000s.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at March 03, 2023 11:43 AM (17s+e)

201 If I ask why people think global warming is actually happening I get a couple of responses.

1. They have read or heard about in the media.

2. They feel, FEEL, that it makes sense.

You can't debate facts with a person like that.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at March 03, 2023 11:36 AM (17s+e)

I tell them if they think they can tell a 4.5 BILLION year old planet that cruises around the sun at 70,000 mph what to do, they are an arrogant asshole and its a them problem, and until they become 4.5 billion years old and can cruise around space at 70,000 MPH they need to sit down and shut the fuck up.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 03, 2023 11:43 AM (VwHCD)

202 For those touting "abiotic oil": can any of you cite an oilfield, or even a single well, that is producing commercial amounts of verifiably "abiotic" oil?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 03, 2023 11:44 AM (tkR6S)

203 Thanks for the update Buck. How did you find the other morons, is there a secret handshake you all are keeping from me?

Posted by: Candidus at March 03, 2023 11:44 AM (CqK30)

204 Heartland? They have always been paid shills for any big business that pays them
The formerly declared Joe Camel INNOCENT of trying to hook kids into smoking by being "cool"
Also tried to pretend second hand smoke was not harmful
Also said not necessary to cover mouth while coughing
Ok I made that one up

Posted by: Paul at March 03, 2023 11:45 AM (NJWEp)

205 Emerald Robinson who can sometimes be ok, agrees that the GOP will do nothing and bluster for the cameras.

Posted by: CN at March 03, 2023 11:45 AM (Zzbjj)

206 House Ethics Committee Launches Investigation Into George Santos’ 2022 Campaign Activity.

Because they've solved all other problems.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 03, 2023 11:45 AM (E+05M)

207 I wonder what SASOL is going to do in light of the South African situation.

Posted by: polynikes at March 03, 2023 11:45 AM (Oivbi)

208 185 Pathetically tiring.

Posted by: micky at March 03, 2023 11:38 AM (3byMq)

Both sides got rid of Trump so they could return to these pathetic reruns and go back to their old roles. Some said "they can't" but they have, and people are again believing the spectacle.

Posted by: CN at March 03, 2023 11:40 AM (Zzbjj)

It'd be like WWE telling the world everything they do is real. A real fighter then gets in the ring and starts throwing real punches. WWE quickly removes the fighter, goes back to what it was before while again asserting that everything they do is real.

Sorry, fuckers. We've already seen what it looks like when it's real. Nobody is falling for this shit again.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 03, 2023 11:45 AM (KbCG3)

209 David Atherton @DaveAtherton20
A 10 year old Dutch girl visiting relatives in Gothenburg was stabbed by a 35 year old man shouting Allah Akbar.

He was restrained by members of the public.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 03, 2023 11:45 AM (Vwz3I)

210 Why don't the greens just go back a billion years, when there was no oxygen in the atmosphere, before cyanobacteria.

Dumbasses.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at March 03, 2023 11:45 AM (ufFY8)

211 I tell them if they think they can tell a 4.5 BILLION year old planet that cruises around the sun at 70,000 mph what to do

Everybody complains about sunspot activity and the Earth's axial tilt, but nobody does anything about it.

Posted by: t-bird at March 03, 2023 11:46 AM (Sv58p)

212 We live on the coast and listen to NOAA weather radio Marine Forecast which is accurate 99 percent of the time. The NOAA inland forecast is rarely correct. The temp is always off by about 5-10 degrees.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 03, 2023 11:42 AM (E+05M)
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Whenever we go to the islands or fishing trips the NOAA is always on. I hate the monotonous voice but it has made life much better many times on the ocean.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at March 03, 2023 11:46 AM (17s+e)

213 136 How do I know climate change is a scam?

Because everything associated with it is a net negative.

No one talks of longer growing seasons or the potential health benefits of shorter winters.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 03, 2023 11:27 AM (KbCG3)

Also because celebrities are 100% sold on it and Al Gore makes millions off it.

Posted by: Everything is a scam at March 03, 2023 11:46 AM (YdDJ9)

214 111 Dang.
Looking at Deanna Durbin makes me want to put on the wide lapel suit, spats, the fedora and have every one call me Slats.
Posted by: Diogenes at March 03, 2023 11:23 AM (anj39)

You've gotta have a Gat.

Posted by: Fox 2! at March 03, 2023 11:47 AM (qyH+l)

215 If I remember correctly Standard Oil went on to become the largest/richest oil company (John D. Rockefeller?).

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron

Yes, the breakup of Standard Oil produced ExxonMobil, Chevron, part of BP, Conoco, Phillips 66, and Marathon Oil.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 03, 2023 11:47 AM (lTGtQ)

216 How do I know climate change is a scam?

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Because our ruling class proposed the notion. That's all you've ever needed to know.

When was the time where these scoundrels spoke the truth about anything?

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 03, 2023 11:48 AM (oINRc)

217 Also because celebrities are 100% sold on it and Al Gore makes millions off it.
Posted by: Everything is a scam at March 03, 2023 11:46 AM (YdDJ

But mostly because the WEF billionaire boys club will make a literal and figurative killing.

Posted by: CN at March 03, 2023 11:48 AM (Zzbjj)

218 I am convinced that petroleum is constantly being created by nature. We could, form time to time, remove it faster than it can be produced by nature, but we can never use it all up permanently.

Posted by: Archer at March 03, 2023 11:17 AM (gmo/4)

IIRC, there was a Dutch(?) geologist who held this precise theory a few decades ago. Obviously it gained no traction as it provided TPTB leverage to increase their evil grasp on the world and its people.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 03, 2023 11:48 AM (uvymP)

219 For those touting "abiotic oil": can any of you cite an oilfield, or even a single well, that is producing commercial amounts of verifiably "abiotic" oil?
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Yes. But only after you show me the dinosaur fossil from Titan.

Posted by: Hur da dur da dur I is SMAHRT at March 03, 2023 11:48 AM (1AJrK)

220 214 111 Dang.
Looking at Deanna Durbin makes me want to put on the wide lapel suit, spats, the fedora and have every one call me Slats.
Posted by: Diogenes at March 03, 2023 11:23 AM (anj39)

You've gotta have a Gat.
Posted by: Fox 2! at March 03, 2023 11:47 AM (qyH+l)

We had to drown the gat but we saved you a little black gitten.

Posted by: Groucho Marx at March 03, 2023 11:49 AM (YdDJ9)

221
The German defense Minister said yesterday that the German military can't defend the country if they are attacked and can't help NATO Allies if a treaty country is attacked.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS)

NATO Bobs, speaking to Germany: "What is it you say you do here?"

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 03, 2023 11:49 AM (pNxlR)

222 Ukrainian commander says there are more Russians attacking the city of Bakhmut than there is ammo to kill them

Posted by: SMOD at March 03, 2023 11:49 AM (RHGPo)

223 Why are certain girls offered certain things
Like sable coats and wedding rings?
By men who wear their spats right?

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at March 03, 2023 11:49 AM (ufFY8)

224 Don't they also have higher energy cost compared to conventional drilling? It's not shooting out of a hole under it's own pressure. And I seem to remember that they had to use a lot of steam to free it from the sand.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 03, 2023 11:42 AM (UuD2k)

Pretty rare to have oil shooting from the ground under pressure, these days. Nearly all conventional wells have to be pumped.

And SAG-D is literally "Steam Assisted Gravity Drainage". They drill a grid of horizontal wells into the heavy oil sand, pumps steam into one of them, and the softened and fluidized oil flows into the adjacent wellbores, and flows to the "heel", from whence it is pumped to surface. The steam is made by boilers using "stranded" natural gas, which is gas from wells not linked by pipeline to markets down south.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 03, 2023 11:50 AM (tkR6S)

225 The Sanctified Church of the Temporary Mortal Condition

Posted by: Kindltot - I am Harry Potter and William Wallace, the Na'avi and Han Solo. I'm escaping from Shawsha at March 03, 2023 11:50 AM (xhaym)

226 216 How do I know climate change is a scam?

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Because our ruling class proposed the notion. That's all you've ever needed to know.

When was the time where these scoundrels spoke the truth about anything?
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 03, 2023 11:48 AM (oINRc)

Who the hell are you to tell them what their truth is?

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 03, 2023 11:50 AM (KbCG3)

227 202 For those touting "abiotic oil": can any of you cite an oilfield, or even a single well, that is producing commercial amounts of verifiably "abiotic" oil?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 03, 2023 11:44 AM (tkR6S)

Yeah, this bugs me too. Hydrocarbons can be formed abiotically in a lab. Some methane and ethane has been found to form abiotically in nature. But it's a huge leap to get from methane and ethane to get to long chain and complex hydrocarbons. People just don't have an appreciation for the specific conditions it takes to do this. We do this at the refinery every day, but at very controlled conditions and using complex man made very specific catalysts that we have to replace periodically.

I just don't see that all coming together naturally.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 03, 2023 11:51 AM (Y5qcH)

228 The German defense Minister said yesterday that the German military can't defend the country if they are attacked and can't help NATO Allies if a treaty country is attacked.
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Shorter: German Defense Minister Opts out of WWIII.

Posted by: I can feel it coming in the air tonight at March 03, 2023 11:51 AM (1AJrK)

229 If we discover petrochemicals and carbon materials on Mars or Jupiter's moons, are we going to start supposing that dinosaurs once lived there?
Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis

There is a huge amount of Methane on Titan, a moon of Saturn. The reason it is there is that methane was in the vast nebula cloud from which our solar system was formed. And there was a huge amount of methane trapped in the mantle and crust of Earth when it was formed, too. We have tapped into a tiny amount of it. Likely geologic heat and forces have caused some of this methane to react with more carbon, water and other substances (carbonates subducted under the ocean tectonic plates) to form oil.
A lot of coal is truly from fossils, ie, ancient vegetable matter. But oil and methane (especially) are likely abiotic.

Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at March 03, 2023 11:51 AM (vcOmj)

230 Ukrainian commander says there are more Russians attacking the city of Bakhmut than there is ammo to kill them
Posted by: SMOD at March 03, 2023 11:49 AM (RHGP

Well then they are going to have to train their soldiers to shoot some Quigleys.

Posted by: polynikes at March 03, 2023 11:51 AM (Oivbi)

231 https://youtu.be/gMTPsumjfTA

Personality.

Horde anthem.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at March 03, 2023 11:51 AM (ufFY8)

232 "...humans are hard wired to be religious, and the Church of Climate has rushed in to fill that void."

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at 11:00 AM

Excellent point.

And the rejection of traditional religiosity or even spiritualism leads inexorably to evil.

Whether it is Church of Climate, or Marxism (lots of overlap), or atheism; it never turns out well.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 03, 2023 11:51 AM (XIJ/X)

233 232 Whether it is Church of Climate, or Marxism (lots of overlap), or atheism; it never turns out well.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 03, 2023 11:51 AM (XIJ/X)

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"I don't need a religion. I just need to belong to a body of people that has a higher calling than my material existence right here and now."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 03, 2023 11:52 AM (LvTSG)

234 "Dealing with the Chinese threat".

Strikes me that threat could be alleviated by a bit of back channel diplomacy--sending a note that reminds them we have a bunch of ICBM'S and the grid coordinates of 3 Gorges Dam.

Give them a bit of food for thought.

Posted by: irongrampa at March 03, 2023 11:52 AM (KATBx)

235 Oops. There goes another.

@TheInsiderPaper · 37 minutes
WATCH - Footage of the horrific moment fuel storage station of energy company Pertamina exploded in Jakarta, Indonesia

https://tinyurl.com/2s4fwed7

35 seconds

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 03, 2023 11:52 AM (Vwz3I)

236 >He was restrained by members of the public.
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 03, 2023 11:45 AM (Vwz3I)

The California surfer who stopped a killer by using a nearby axe would have been a preferable form of "restrained".

Posted by: BourbonChicken at March 03, 2023 11:52 AM (44ww/)

237
222 Ukrainian commander says there are more Russians attacking the city of Bakhmut than there is ammo to kill them
Posted by: SMOD at March 03, 2023 11:49 AM (RHGPo)

Yet we will push for as much destruction as possible, while Zelensky conscripts women and boys, while his ministers' sons sit happily in Germany and Switzerland and skip this dangerous part.

Posted by: CN at March 03, 2023 11:52 AM (Zzbjj)

238 183 The Euros are now burning coal at the highest rate ever in recorded history,

A lot of German coal is lignite, basically burnable dirt.

Posted by: Fox 2! at March 03, 2023 11:52 AM (qyH+l)

239
The German defense Minister said yesterday that the German military can't defend the country if they are attacked and can't help NATO Allies if a treaty country is attacked.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS)

Then they need to stop supporting the US's imperial games and withdraw from NATO.

I would never hold that against any country that did it. But I won't sit here and listen to Fritz shout "DOWN WITH RUSSIA" out of one side of his mouth and "WE WON'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT RUSSIA BUT AMERICA SHOULD" out of the other.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 03, 2023 11:52 AM (oINRc)

240 222 Ukrainian commander says there are more Russians attacking the city of Bakhmut than there is ammo to kill them
Posted by: SMOD at March 03, 2023 11:49 AM (RHGPo)

Sure there are....That's the ticket!

Posted by: The Pathological Liar from SNL at March 03, 2023 11:53 AM (sI15f)

241 I find myself thinking of a background plot element in early Heinlein "Future History" series stories, where petroleum had been banned as a fuel to make sure there was enough of a supply for manufacturing uses.

Posted by: ptschett at March 03, 2023 11:53 AM (zB+vL)

242 If I remember correctly Standard Oil went on to become the largest/richest oil company (John D. Rockefeller?).

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron

Yes, the breakup of Standard Oil produced ExxonMobil, Chevron, part of BP, Conoco, Phillips 66, and Marathon Oil.
Posted by: Thomas Paine

Standard Oil was founded in Cleveland, Ohio by John D.

Standard Oil of Ohio became part of BP decades ago. It used to be called Sohio at the gas stations.

Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at March 03, 2023 11:53 AM (vcOmj)

243 The new primitives are tiresome. I only hope their stupidity and evil hurts them more than it hurts me.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 03, 2023 11:53 AM (c2f5O)

244 How did you find the other morons, is there a secret handshake you all are keeping from me?

FWIW, I've been mulling how to make hat pins with the AoS logo (w/ Ace's permission, of course) for just that purpose.

Posted by: Oddbob at March 03, 2023 11:53 AM (nfrXX)

245 I wonder what SASOL is going to do in light of the South African situation.
Posted by: polynikes at March 03, 2023 11:45 AM (Oivbi)

Probably get abandoned, as the people who know how to run it flee for their lives?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 03, 2023 11:53 AM (tkR6S)

246 will come to a halt with a shriek of unlubricated metal and a whimper of an engine with no power.

With prose like that, you could Stop The Motor of The World (tm). For all the vilification, that is one difficult style to copy. Ond kope-ee-ying iss Pledge A Reezm!

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at March 03, 2023 11:53 AM (jYCXf)

247 Yet we will push for as much destruction as possible, while Zelensky conscripts women and boys, while his ministers' sons sit happily in Germany and Switzerland and skip this dangerous part.
Posted by: CN at March 03, 2023 11:52 AM (Zzbjj)

As it was, such shall it be.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at March 03, 2023 11:54 AM (YwyqV)

248 And there was a huge amount of methane trapped in the mantle and crust of Earth when it was formed, too. We have tapped into a tiny amount of it.

Posted by: A face in the crowd

The amount of methane hydrate in relatively shallow waters around the globe is in the region of a thousand times the quantity of proven oil and gas reserves.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 03, 2023 11:54 AM (lTGtQ)

249 #235 Second video at ground level nearby:

https://tinyurl.com/mw967xsy

43 seconds

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 03, 2023 11:54 AM (Vwz3I)

250 while his ministers' sons sit happily in Germany and Switzerland and skip this dangerous part.
Posted by: CN at March 03, 2023 11:52 AM (Zzbjj)

This is true of just about every elite, everywhere.
We're a long ways from the Greatest Generation where at least some of the children of the Elite fought and died.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 03, 2023 11:54 AM (c2f5O)

251 I want Global Warming. Warming is good. Ice Ages bad.

If there was a way to cause more warming, I would be in favor of doing it.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 03, 2023 11:54 AM (yQpMk)

252 245 I wonder what SASOL is going to do in light of the South African situation.
Posted by: polynikes at March 03, 2023 11:45 AM (Oivbi)

Probably get abandoned, as the people who know how to run it flee for their lives?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 03, 2023 11:53 AM (tkR6S)

Shit, I bought SASOL when they announced they were building a GtL facility in LA. I better check on that.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 03, 2023 11:54 AM (Y5qcH)

253 The reason it is there is that methane was in the vast nebula cloud from which our solar system was formed.
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So you're saying there were space dinosaurs.

Posted by: Everything is Awesome!!! at March 03, 2023 11:55 AM (9yejf)

254 Shorter: German Defense Minister Opts out of WWIII.

Posted by: I can feel it

Shorter: Germany overrun.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at March 03, 2023 11:55 AM (SUzFC)

255 For those touting "abiotic oil": can any of you cite an oilfield, or even a single well, that is producing commercial amounts of verifiably "abiotic" oil?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 03, 2023 11:44 AM (tkR6S)

No, because Big Oil is hiding all the data.

Posted by: Kindltot - I am Harry Potter and William Wallace, the Na'avi and Han Solo. I'm escaping from Shawsha at March 03, 2023 11:55 AM (xhaym)

256 Hey Candidus: At pretty much any table I sat down at there were several loyal AOS readers.

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at March 03, 2023 11:56 AM (/3whg)

257 256 Hey Candidus: At pretty much any table I sat down at there were several loyal AOS readers.
Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at March 03, 2023 11:56 AM (/3whg)

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And none of them have bought my books...

Le sigh...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 03, 2023 11:56 AM (LvTSG)

258 MIT’s bias response team investigated, the memo added, and determined “the messages were put up by students choosing to use extreme speech to call attention to and protest what they see as the implications of” several new pro-free speech policies and efforts at the school.

“The chalking and flyers that carried slurs were put up as part of a much larger set of flyers, expressing a wide range of views, many framed in provocative terms. We have been told that these flyers were intended to probe the boundaries of MIT’s commitment to freedom of expression and to determine how this commitment comports with MIT policies, including those on harassment,” stated the memo, written by Dean for Student Life Suzy Nelson and Institute Community and Equity Officer John Dozier.

Peter Bonilla, executive director of the MIT Free Speech Alliance, said he couldn’t say for sure whether the students who posted the messages are left-leaning progressives, but added “whatever the content of the messages, whatever was being said, the point they seem to be making was that they should not have the right to say it.”

Posted by: SMOD at March 03, 2023 11:57 AM (RHGPo)

259 We're a long ways from the Greatest Generation where at least some of the children of the Elite fought and died.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 03, 2023 11:54 AM (c2f5O)

We really didn't like those little bastards anyway. The war was a godsend.

Posted by: Greatest Generation Elite parents at March 03, 2023 11:57 AM (YdDJ9)

260 If we discover petrochemicals and carbon materials on Mars or Jupiter's moons, are we going to start supposing that dinosaurs once lived there?
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Dino astronauts exploring the solar system.

They did have millions of years in the planet ...

Why only monkeys get smart?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at March 03, 2023 11:57 AM (0o1N8)

261 If there was a way to cause more warming, I would be in favor of doing it.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 03, 2023 11:54 AM (yQpMk)

Greenhouse CO2 generator:
https://tinyurl.com/wpdhzuj3

Just run it outdoors. This is also why many greenhouses are warmer than the outdoors. The have heaters in them.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 03, 2023 11:57 AM (Y5qcH)

262 Been on a call. Not worth trying to read the whole thread now since the Ewok will be here soon. What did I miss?

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at March 03, 2023 11:57 AM (BTgKJ)

263 Ukrainian commander says there are more Russians attacking the city of Bakhmut than there is ammo to kill them

Unpossible. All the Smart People are telling me that the Russian army is ready to collapse any minute now.

Posted by: Oddbob at March 03, 2023 11:57 AM (nfrXX)

264 The German defense Minister said yesterday that the German military can't defend the country if they are attacked and can't help NATO Allies if a treaty country is attacked.

The NATO agreement is pretty brief. What does article 3 say again?

Article 3 – The parties separately and jointly will maintain and develop their individual and collective capacity to resist armed attack.

Yup...if member nations aren't living uo to their end of the agreement by maintaining sufficient military forces to defend themselves, why are we expected to live up to our mutual defense commitment under Article 5?

Posted by: Military Moron at March 03, 2023 11:57 AM (JCZqz)

265 262 Been on a call. Not worth trying to read the whole thread now since the Ewok will be here soon. What did I miss?
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at March 03, 2023 11:57 AM (BTgKJ)

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Chaos.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 03, 2023 11:58 AM (LvTSG)

266 I would never hold that against any country that did it. But I won't sit here and listen to Fritz shout "DOWN WITH RUSSIA" out of one side of his mouth and "WE WON'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT RUSSIA BUT AMERICA SHOULD" out of the other.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 03, 2023 11:52 AM (oINRc)

Yes! We cannot save people who refuse to help themselves. I'm sure the French, Belgians, Swiss, et al are in the same position. I also think that DC controls this game and Zelensky is the motor turning the wheels. Why are all our pols clapping like seals and tripping over themselves to support him? This isn't love for the Uke people, it's love for themselves, their money, their careers.

Posted by: CN at March 03, 2023 11:58 AM (Zzbjj)

267 It can be lunch time

Posted by: Skip at March 03, 2023 11:58 AM (HY3gN)

268 253 The reason it is there is that methane was in the vast nebula cloud from which our solar system was formed.
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So you're saying there were space dinosaurs.
Posted by: Everything is Awesome!!! at March 03, 2023 11:55 AM

And they farted. A LOT.

Posted by: Fartasaurus Rex at March 03, 2023 11:58 AM (YdDJ9)

269
Yup...if member nations aren't living uo to their end of the agreement by maintaining sufficient military forces to defend themselves, why are we expected to live up to our mutual defense commitment under Article 5?
Posted by: Military Moron at March 03, 2023 11:57 AM (JCZqz)

Defense contractors need more billions!

Posted by: CN at March 03, 2023 11:59 AM (Zzbjj)

270 Severely Underwater on Their Car Loans Buyers owe an average amount of $5,500 on vehicle trade-ins, close to the levels they were before the pandemic. The amount people are underwater is concerning everyone, from the drivers of the cars to the dealers who are financing these people. Bloomberg says dealers are reporting more buyers than ever rolling up to lots with $10,000 and more in negative equity looking to trade their vehicle and roll that debt into another loan.

Posted by: SMOD at March 03, 2023 11:59 AM (RHGPo)

271 I wonder what SASOL is going to do in light of the South African situation.
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Probably get abandoned, as the people who know how to run it flee for their lives?

Pretty much what happened in Venezuela, yes?

Posted by: Oddbob at March 03, 2023 11:59 AM (nfrXX)

272 The media is all excited about the hydrogen powered airplane that was just flown.
I bet the Nazi's were excited when the Hindenburg was first flown. The future is also the hydrogen powered car.
GM invested heavily in the car, and have since been rather quiet about the new future, just as soon as they sell enough EV's to pay for it.

Posted by: Colin at March 03, 2023 11:59 AM (dWBx3)

273
Unpossible. All the Smart People are telling me that the Russian army is ready to collapse any minute now.
Posted by: Oddbob at March 03, 2023 11:57 AM (nfrXX)

I think MacGregor is aout the only one telling the truth. Ukes are relying heavily on mercenaries.

Posted by: CN at March 03, 2023 12:00 PM (Zzbjj)

274 262 Been on a call. Not worth trying to read the whole thread now since the Ewok will be here soon. What did I miss?
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at March 03, 2023 11:57 AM (BTgKJ)

We got typical scumbag, failure theater R’s.
We got oil sand, abiotic oil, and space dinosaurs.
We got climate cult.

I think that’s more or less it.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at March 03, 2023 12:00 PM (YwyqV)

275 265 262 Been on a call. Not worth trying to read the whole thread now since the Ewok will be here soon. What did I miss?
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at March 03, 2023 11:57 AM (BTgKJ)

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Chaos.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 03, 2023 11:58 AM (LvTSG)

And space dinosaurs.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 03, 2023 12:00 PM (KbCG3)

276 @262

Consensus is that Congress has talkers and promisers and everything is about two weeks away.

And absolutely nothing will change. Everything is going to get worse.

Posted by: micky at March 03, 2023 12:00 PM (3byMq)

277 Abiotic "oil theory" explained:

https://tinyurl.com/4d5fmdap

This is by no means conclusive, but oil domes and formations that were "dry" have, over time, refilled from deeper geologic formations. I have a hard time accepting that "biotic oil" , ie, biological (from fossils) was created over 4 miles (or more) into the Earth's mantle.
Some shallower oil deposits....biological oil source could be true.
It could be both.

Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at March 03, 2023 12:00 PM (vcOmj)

278 Chaos.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 03, 2023 11:58 AM (LvTSG)

And space dinosaurs.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 03, 2023 12:00 PM (KbCG3)

Gassy space dinosaurs.

Posted by: Fartasaurus Rex at March 03, 2023 12:00 PM (YdDJ9)

279 I want Global Warming. Warming is good. Ice Ages bad.

If there was a way to cause more warming, I would be in favor of doing it.
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Same.
Cooling is scary, end of civilization shit. No crops, no meat, no people.
Warming is, "oh no, my beach house is gone" silly.

One degree of cooling is a thousand times worse and a degree of warming.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at March 03, 2023 12:01 PM (0o1N8)

280 The German defense Minister said yesterday that the German military can't defend the country if they are attacked and can't help NATO Allies if a treaty country is attacked.

... remember when the German delegates to the UN laughed at Trump telling them that they were weak and getting weaker

Posted by: SMOD at March 03, 2023 12:01 PM (RHGPo)

281 Based on the number of people on the street in Jakarta, that must have been about 3 am. Talk about a city that never sleeps.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 03, 2023 12:01 PM (lTGtQ)

282 Been on a call. Not worth trying to read the whole thread now since the Ewok will be here soon. What did I miss?
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at March 03, 2023 11:57 AM (BTgKJ)

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Chaos.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 03, 2023 11:58 AM (LvTSG)

And space dinosaurs.
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What farted a lot.

Posted by: Everything is Awesome!!! at March 03, 2023 12:01 PM (NunVH)

283 I don't watch Democrats Propaganda Ministry but is there inbedded reporters every night since they are the ones who want to go join the war?

Posted by: Skip at March 03, 2023 12:01 PM (HY3gN)

284 Glad my car is paid off and can sell it for a nice profit. Even got the house paymt below 600. I am blessed.

Posted by: Infidel at March 03, 2023 12:01 PM (tITEI)

285 Gassy space dinosaurs.
Posted by: Fartasaurus Rex at March 03, 2023 12:00 PM (YdDJ9)

Don't tell the Jurassic Park people or they'll make another stupid sequel

Posted by: CN at March 03, 2023 12:01 PM (Zzbjj)

286 For those touting "abiotic oil": can any of you cite an oilfield, or even a single well, that is producing commercial amounts of verifiably "abiotic" oil?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

All we can do is...umm... trust the word of Russian and Ukrainian geologists and fringe articles like this:

https://bit.ly/3y8grAL

But the basis of the belief, for me, is that if out experts are pushing Peak Oil, the truth lies elsewhere.

Posted by: t-bird at March 03, 2023 12:02 PM (ptElO)

287 281 Based on the number of people on the street in Jakarta, that must have been about 3 am. Talk about a city that never sleeps.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 03, 2023 12:01 PM (lTGtQ)

24/7 cock!

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at March 03, 2023 12:02 PM (YdDJ9)

288 There is a theory that goes like this:

If all oil comes from the dino age, how come we can extract oil from strata below the dino age?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at March 03, 2023 12:02 PM (0o1N8)

289 If all oil comes from the dino age, how come we can extract oil from strata below the dino age?
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Good question.

Posted by: Puddinhead at March 03, 2023 12:03 PM (xSnmX)

290 Pretty much what happened in Venezuela, yes?
Posted by: Oddbob at March 03, 2023 11:59 AM (nfrXX)

Chavez nationalized the oil industry and then used it as a cash cow and neglected reinvesting in the infrastructure. From there it went down hill

I think Pemex is having the same problem

Posted by: Kindltot - I am Harry Potter and William Wallace, the Na'avi and Han Solo. I'm escaping from Shawsha at March 03, 2023 12:03 PM (xhaym)

291 Do those stones also act to hold cold?
Slow to heat then slow to cool this giving lower day and higher night temps? The rocks will tend to moderate all temp changes
Cooler in the day warmer st night

Posted by: Paul at March 03, 2023 12:03 PM (NJWEp)

292 nood

Posted by: CN at March 03, 2023 12:03 PM (Zzbjj)

293
I also think that DC controls this game and Zelensky is the motor turning the wheels.

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For SURE.

I know they are driving this thing and have been for eight years, at least with regard to the big game in Ukraine.

I wouldn't blame Germany for a nanosecond if they said "fuck this. Oma and Opa aren't going to freeze to death in our capital for the Big Guy's 10%. We're out!"

But they aren't doing that. They're playing "let's you and him fight." Let 'em all turn into popsicles for all I care at this point.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 03, 2023 12:03 PM (oINRc)

294 Nood Z Cup teacher

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at March 03, 2023 12:04 PM (YwyqV)

295 The only thing dumber than peak oil, is peak dirt.

Its impossible, unless you kill everything that shits and everything that grows, dies and decays.

Idijits.

Posted by: Everything is Awesome!!! at March 03, 2023 12:04 PM (pHgPD)

296 Yeah, this bugs me too. Hydrocarbons can be formed abiotically in a lab. Some methane and ethane has been found to form abiotically in nature. But it's a huge leap to get from methane and ethane to get to long chain and complex hydrocarbons. People just don't have an appreciation for the specific conditions it takes to do this. We do this at the refinery every day, but at very controlled conditions and using complex man made very specific catalysts that we have to replace periodically.

I just don't see that all coming together naturally.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 03, 2023 11:51 AM (Y5qcH)

The other half of the equation is this: in order to produce oil or gas, you have to have a reservoir that contains it. A reservoir rock has to have porosity, open spaces between the mineral grains that make it up. And it has to have some permeability, a measure of the degree to which those pore spaces are interconnected. Mantle rocks, and very ancient crustal rocks typically have nearly zero of both properties. So, even if chemical conditions in the mantle were favorable to making hydrocarbons from primordial methane, there is no place to "put" them.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 03, 2023 12:04 PM (tkR6S)

297 Oh, and it takes massive quantities of hydrogen to force hydrocarbons to bond to other hydrocarbons. And that is not available on Earth.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 03, 2023 12:04 PM (Y5qcH)

298 I thought the idea behind Abiotic oil was microorganisms in the crust feeding on the trapped primordial methane and pooping oil.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 03, 2023 12:05 PM (yQpMk)

299 Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at March 03, 2023 11:53 AM (jYCXf)

Had to look up those references. Still don't know what the last bit meant, but I guess the first part meant I sounded like I'd copied Atlas Shrugged. I've never read it, or seen the movies, so it was unintentional. I was thinking of bearings shrieking and the sound of an engine not turning over because the battery is dead. Both of which will happen a lot in the near future if nothing changes.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at March 03, 2023 12:05 PM (nC+QA)

300 Such a low comment count but yet my new thread radar is making bip noises, so pretty soon Lamont is going to give up on the reversed drill and be a provider is my guess.

Posted by: micky at March 03, 2023 12:05 PM (3byMq)

301 If all oil comes from the dino age, how come we can extract oil from strata below the dino age?
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at March 03, 2023 12:02 PM (0o1N

Simple answer: it doesn't. Plenty of oil predates dinosaurs.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 03, 2023 12:06 PM (tkR6S)

302 Formal announcement: NoOd

Posted by: micky at March 03, 2023 12:07 PM (3byMq)

303 The only thing dumber than peak oil, is peak dirt.
Its impossible, unless you kill everything that shits and everything that grows, dies and decays.
Idijits.
Posted by: Everything is Awesome!!! at March 03, 2023 12:04 PM (pHgPD)

Peak dirt is a claim, where the consensus is that it takes decades to build dirt naturally and that farming destroys it

There is some talk now that soil is mostly bacteria and fungi and it can regenerate as fast as can get organics and have a place to grow

Posted by: Kindltot - I am Harry Potter and William Wallace, the Na'avi and Han Solo. I'm escaping from Shawsha at March 03, 2023 12:08 PM (xhaym)

304 "the Peak Oil scares have been going on since the 1880's (!)"

No doubt promulgated by people with large financial interest in whale oil.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at March 03, 2023 12:08 PM (p1tGJ)

305 If all oil comes from the dino age, how come we can extract oil from strata below the dino age?
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at March 03, 2023 12:02 PM (0o1N

Simple answer: it doesn't. Plenty of oil predates dinosaurs.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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Simpler answer: Dinosaurs had time machines.

Posted by: Hur da dur da dur I is SMAHRT at March 03, 2023 12:09 PM (pq2Xq)

306 249 #235 Second video at ground level nearby:

https://tinyurl.com/mw967xsy

43 seconds
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 03, 2023 11:54 AM (Vwz3I)

iI wonder if putting uneducated incompetents in charge of things that can go "boom!" was a bad idea.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 03, 2023 12:11 PM (trdmm)

307 Peak dirt is a claim, where the consensus is that it takes decades to build dirt naturally and that farming destroys it
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CONSENSUS

HARDY FCUKING HAR HAR

Posted by: Hur da dur da dur I is SMAHRT at March 03, 2023 12:11 PM (wn6FD)

308 ... remember when the German delegates to the UN laughed at Trump telling them that they were weak and getting weaker

Yeah, remember that this is the new guy just sworn in last month who has been chiding and chastising them about that every day, and demanding that his country actually live up to its obligations? Remember that?

Bunch of fucking super geniuses here, as usual.
It's like "how badly can you misread the plain text." Some new kind of sophomoric college humor.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at March 03, 2023 12:17 PM (jYCXf)

309 soil is mostly bacteria and fungi and it can regenerate as fast as can get organics and have a place to grow

Go ahead. Try it. Take pictures of your crops, too.
I run a little dirt factory here. Not quite as simple as a simplefucker might assume it is.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at March 03, 2023 12:23 PM (jYCXf)

310 Ice Cream/Shark attacks? Look at the drowning numbers, they are EXACT correlations...35,000+ per year, the second leading cause of deaths for children, second only to birth defects(potentially caused by Ice Cream as well)
....Black Children affected MOST!!!(not really, actually Native american indian/alaskan childrens rates are higher buuuut...they don't have the same level of Media Lobby/support)
Black children 5 – 19 drown at rates 5.5 times higher than white children in pools.
Black children 11-12 drown in pools at rates 10 times those of whites.
If YOU will not ban Icecream to save the LIVES of this nation most vulnerable minorities?
Clearly YOU are Racist!

Posted by: birddog at March 03, 2023 12:49 PM (uAI4S)

311 That "Things Made from Oil" graphic does not include asphalt, which is used to construct 90%+ (at least last I researched) of highways and roads in the country.

I learned that a while back from watching "Modern Marvels" episode about the nation's highways.

No more oil, no more highways or fixed roads in the country.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at March 03, 2023 01:09 PM (Do5/p)

312 Jakarta??? Pssst...last week PEMEX(mexico's nationalized Oil company) had three plant explosions/fires all on the same DAY!
One of which was in Texas.
Multiple deaths.

Posted by: birddog at March 03, 2023 01:11 PM (uAI4S)

313 A little truth for those Keep it in the Ground idiots

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at March 03, 2023 05:16 PM (wGqjj)

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