Alex Murdaugh Verdict: GUILTY

I only heard about this case a few days ago. He's a bigshot lawyer in South Carolina who controlled the entire county through corruption and bribery. He often settled lawsuits for clients and then told them the suit hadn't been settled, pocketing the money. Avenatti-Style!

There's a documentary on HBO I started watching. This guy's ne'er-do-well Hunter-Biden-like drunkass son killed his girlfriend by driving a boat at high speeds into a bridge support. Then this guy attempted to cover it up and claim that some rando was actually driving the boat.

But that's not what he's on trial for. He's accused of killing his shit-for-brains son and his wife, from whom, I think, he was separated. Not sure of the motive.

(I was corrected about the motive possibly being about insurance.)

BREAKING: Jury finds Alex Murdaugh guilty of double murder. https://t.co/LZCGGhjDFL pic.twitter.com/J6tFqLJOzz
— ABC News (@ABC) March 3, 2023

Following the guilty verdict, Alex Murdaugh’s lawyers attempted to make a motion for a mistrial, which the judge promptly denied, saying:

‘The evidence of guilt is overwhelming. I deny the motion.’ pic.twitter.com/Gy2OKc0TYI
— NowThis (@nowthisnews) March 3, 2023

Let's check in with an expert:

Down goes Murdaugh pic.twitter.com/UR4140FuzE
— O.J. Simpson (@TheRealOJ32) March 3, 2023

Posted by: Ace at 07:31 PM

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1 Faust!

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 02, 2023 07:33 PM (Vwz3I)

2 It's just like that.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 02, 2023 07:33 PM (Vwz3I)

3 Ace,

There were no insurance policies.

No Motive

Posted by: rd at March 02, 2023 07:33 PM (Z32m1)

4 OK, hang him.

Posted by: Skip at March 02, 2023 07:34 PM (xhxe8)

5 Haven't paid attention at all but I recall a fellow moron opining a few days ago that he's corrupt but the prosecution didn't prove he did it. Not that I GAS.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 02, 2023 07:35 PM (Vwz3I)

6 He's a ginger, so... no soul.

Posted by: Hawkpilot at March 02, 2023 07:35 PM (EKPWA)

7 "He's accused of killing his shit-for-brains son and his wife, from whom, I think, he was separated. "

Did they lighten his sentence for the public service of capping the son, or did they increase it for having raised him in the first place?

Posted by: FeatherBlade at March 02, 2023 07:36 PM (yjqnG)

8 All I have to say about Murdaugh is..

Roll on two.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 02, 2023 07:36 PM (up/3i)

9 OK, hang him.
Posted by: Skip

How high ?

Posted by: JT at March 02, 2023 07:36 PM (T4tVD)

10 For a verdict that quick, the jury didn’t buy anything this guy was selling from day 1.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 02, 2023 07:36 PM (u73oe)

11 hiya

Posted by: JT at March 02, 2023 07:36 PM (T4tVD)

12 I couldn't contemplate what Murdaugh did. I haven't watched any of it and don't need to to know he's a evil bastard.

Posted by: fd at March 02, 2023 07:36 PM (iayUP)

13 I'm gettin' too old for this shit

Posted by: Roger Murtaugh at March 02, 2023 07:36 PM (C1Zwz)

14 rd, thanks, I corrected

Posted by: ace at March 02, 2023 07:37 PM (C1Zwz)

15 IMO,

They convicted him based on all the financial wrongdoing evidence the judge let in.

Alec Murdaugh IS a contemptible human being. A lying, thieving scumbag that stole MILLIONS from his clients. But I do not think he is a murderer.

Worse? The state never presented enough evidence of guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

Posted by: rd at March 02, 2023 07:37 PM (Z32m1)

16 I watched more of the Murdaugh trial than I care to admit.

Posted by: Mentholated Smooth-Drawing gp at March 02, 2023 07:37 PM (MvF+J)

17 He's the dick boyfriend in a Hallmark Christmas movie.

Posted by: Axeman at March 02, 2023 07:37 PM (krQz2)

18 10 For a verdict that quick, the jury didn’t buy anything this guy was selling from day 1.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 02, 2023 07:36 PM (u73oe)

Who really likes lawyers?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 02, 2023 07:38 PM (CsVWE)

19 For a verdict that quick, the jury didn’t buy anything this guy was selling from day 1.
Posted by: Duke Lowell

(He shoulda brought some Girl Scout cookies !)

Posted by: JT at March 02, 2023 07:38 PM (T4tVD)

20 17 He's the dick boyfriend in a Hallmark Christmas movie.
Posted by: Axeman at March 02, 2023 07:37 PM (krQz2)

He's EVERY man in a Hallmark channel movie.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 02, 2023 07:38 PM (CsVWE)

21 "Alec Murdaugh IS a contemptible human being. A lying, thieving scumbag that stole MILLIONS from his clients. But I do not think he is a murderer."

Maybe this is like getting Al Capone on tax evasion?

Posted by: FeatherBlade at March 02, 2023 07:38 PM (yjqnG)

22 >>> He's the dick boyfriend in a Hallmark Christmas movie.
Posted by: Axeman

what a... manly reference

Posted by: ace at March 02, 2023 07:38 PM (C1Zwz)

23 "He's a ginger, so... no soul.
Posted by: Hawkpilot

I wasn't going to mention it. Nor that he's a lawyer.

Posted by: fd at March 02, 2023 07:38 PM (iayUP)

24 He is going to sell he memoirs to be made into a movie , isn't he ....

Posted by: runner at March 02, 2023 07:38 PM (V13WU)

25 Did the defense present any alternate theory of the murders?

Posted by: polynikes at March 02, 2023 07:39 PM (Oivbi)

26 I think Murdaugh's lawyer will have to go into witness protection for losing this case. Because Murdaugh sounds like a nasty client.

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 02, 2023 07:39 PM (ZAOI3)

27 Is he gonna hang?

Posted by: runner at March 02, 2023 07:39 PM (V13WU)

28 Ugh

Tornado sirens going off

Pizza and beer and tornado Thursday

Posted by: naturalfake at March 02, 2023 07:40 PM (U06h6)

29 In Cold Blood is on TCM

Posted by: Daffy Duck at March 02, 2023 07:40 PM (63Dwl)

30 Anna Puma, assuming you're rolling over to this thread.

Thanks for that good news re warbirds, and yes it is heartening.

As I've often mused, if *I* had couple tens of millions $$ to play with .... oh well.

And I messed up and missed the Western Naval History Assoc. conference, held on the Midway, just now. Idiot.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 02, 2023 07:40 PM (OTzUX)

31 14 rd, thanks, I corrected
Posted by: ace at March 02, 2023 07:37 PM (C1Zwz)

ace loves a good trial. Remember... who was the one in Italy?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 02, 2023 07:40 PM (CsVWE)

32

I'm laughing. Last night, some damn Fox show had some danged dingbat of defense lawyer gushing about how Murdaugh had "humanized" himself to the jury.

Yeah, he humanized hisself, all right.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz) at March 02, 2023 07:40 PM (Mzdiz)

33 Always been a Giants fan but I liked OJ and he had his 2003 yd season when I was 10. My mother was in a ceramics class and she made a Christmas ornament of OJ in his Bill's uniform. Still have it. Funny how things change

Posted by: Smell the Glove at March 02, 2023 07:40 PM (xtxvv)

34 Murdaugh was eager to admit that he was a drug-addicted thief, but felt that admitting murder was his bridge-too-far. He's principled.

Posted by: Mentholated Smooth-Drawing gp at March 02, 2023 07:40 PM (MvF+J)

35 Posted by: rd at March 02, 2023 07:37 PM (Z32m1)

How did they explain the blood splatter or his voice on the Snapchat?

Posted by: polynikes at March 02, 2023 07:40 PM (Oivbi)

36 I have no ideer who this guy is.

I'll let you mufukkas tell me what to think.

Posted by: eleven at March 02, 2023 07:40 PM (iziT8)

37 I understand the son was a major bully à la Kennedys.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 02, 2023 07:40 PM (Vwz3I)

38 rd, thanks, I corrected
Posted by: ace

(You kin sit down now....)

Posted by: JT at March 02, 2023 07:40 PM (T4tVD)

39 This is the first I've even heard of it. Interesting what becomes 'National Newz' and what doesn't.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at March 02, 2023 07:41 PM (tiR3O)

40 @15

>>The state never presented enough evidence of guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

Once they played the recording between him and his son at the scene of the crime, his claim that he wasn't present at the scene of the crime in the time frame of the crime, his story fell apart.

I think he did it, but that's neither here nor there.

The Jury thought he did it and that's good enough for me.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 02, 2023 07:41 PM (up/3i)

41 "The state never presented enough evidence of guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.
Posted by: rd "

That's what I gathered. Was there definitive evidence?

Posted by: fd at March 02, 2023 07:41 PM (iayUP)

42 I will re-post what Rhomboid is referring to.

For Salty Dawg, Rhomboid, and other lovers of military aviation here is some news to make you smile.

Would you believe there is a truly motivated group who are busily working towards bringing not one rare warbird, but two of them, back to flying condition.

B-17E 41-2595 "Desert Rat" which was found in Maine cut up into chunks.
https://tinyurl.com/B-17EDesertRat

And a pre-war B-17C.
https://tinyurl.com/B17CSharkFin

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 02, 2023 07:41 PM (ZAOI3)

43 29 In Cold Blood is on TCM
Posted by: Daffy Duck at March 02, 2023 07:40 PM (63Dwl)

Heh. Apt.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 02, 2023 07:41 PM (CsVWE)

44 Great!

Power's out now

Posted by: naturalfake at March 02, 2023 07:41 PM (U06h6)

45 Apparently the singular form of anecdote is data.
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https://tinyurl.com/2edcxzct

Posted by: Axeman at March 02, 2023 07:41 PM (krQz2)

46 He's a ginger, so... no soul.
Posted by: Hawkpilot

I wasn't going to mention it. Nor that he's a lawyer.

A ginger and a lawyer... he'd have to steal a couple of souls just to get to zero.

Posted by: Hawkpilot at March 02, 2023 07:41 PM (EKPWA)

47 Dammit, my good stuff always gets willowed. I hate noods.

And I never heard of this Murdaugh stuff until today. WTF)

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at March 02, 2023 07:42 PM (DSB5h)

48 This case reminded me of a scene in the The Devil's Adovcate. The rot and reach of an aging 100 year old dynasty in a South Carolina backwater is very Dorian Grey.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at March 02, 2023 07:42 PM (oWBc3)

49 Murdaugh's lawyer is Dick "Dick" Harpootlian, Mr. Big Democrat in SC.

Democrat Big Wig. That's an added bonus, here.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz) at March 02, 2023 07:42 PM (Mzdiz)

50 Great!

Power's out now
Posted by: naturalfake at March 02, 2023 07:41 PM (U06h6)
---
Sorry!

Posted by: Johnny! from Airplane! at March 02, 2023 07:42 PM (krQz2)

51 I just can't imagine killing for money.

Hate...sure

Passion...sure

I mean it could happen I'm no angel.

But money?

Posted by: eleven at March 02, 2023 07:42 PM (iziT8)

52 In Cold Blood is on TCM
Posted by: Daffy Duck

I haven't viewed that film in decades but I still remember Robert Blake's character staring out the rain soaked window.

Posted by: Tonypete at March 02, 2023 07:42 PM (qoGsy)

53 I'll let you mufukkas tell me what to think.
Posted by: eleven at March 02, 2023 07:40 PM

That our job!

Posted by: Mika Brzezinski at March 02, 2023 07:43 PM (a3Q+t)

54 Maybe it was rd I read the few days ago?!?

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 02, 2023 07:43 PM (Vwz3I)

55 @32 was rather Janna Spilbor? She's a lawyer across the river, great salesperson but friends who iknow worked for her said she's a complete idiot

Posted by: Smell the Glove at March 02, 2023 07:43 PM (xtxvv)

56 Posted by: Anna Puma at March 02, 2023 07:41 PM (ZAOI3)

Very cool, anna.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 02, 2023 07:43 PM (CsVWE)

57 Once they played the recording between him and his son at the scene of the crime, his claim that he wasn't present at the scene of the crime in the time frame of the crime, his story fell apart.

I didn't watch it, so I'm taking this at face value. But, yeah, saying I wasn't there when it happened and then having the state put in evidence that you were is pretty damning.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at March 02, 2023 07:43 PM (ppBhU)

58 If you want to watch a murderous weasel really squirm on the stand, two words: Anthony Todt. I watch way too much true crime shit.

Posted by: Mentholated Smooth-Drawing gp at March 02, 2023 07:43 PM (MvF+J)

59 OJ opining on murder verdicts is just so Biden.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at March 02, 2023 07:44 PM (XkUZw)

60 Mrs. gourmand watched the Netflix series. I thought it was boring, didn't join her.

Posted by: gourmand du jour, gimpy edition at March 02, 2023 07:44 PM (jTmQV)

61 @47

>>Dammit, my good stuff always gets willowed. I hate noods.

Pro-Tip:

Once a non-ONT thread gets above 300 or so, you never post your best stuff.

125 to 225 comments is the sweet spot.

Anything after that is risky.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 02, 2023 07:44 PM (up/3i)

62 Woman's History Month
March Madness

Coincidence?

Posted by: Axeman at March 02, 2023 07:44 PM (krQz2)

63
There's an episode of Barnaby Jones where a spoiled teen was driving a dune buggy and injured a girl passenger but his pal took the blame.

The new fake Dexter series had a similar scenario, too.

Posted by: Proper Soothsayer at March 02, 2023 07:44 PM (G/QLV)

64 Rhomboid,

I should check my Powerball ticket right?

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 02, 2023 07:45 PM (ZAOI3)

65 I do not see how Alec could have cleaned up in a few minutes after the gunman was literally showered with blood and brains from a point blank shotgun blast to his own sons head. There was NO blood and NO DNA on any of his clothes, the golf cart he drove to the kennel and back to his house, inside the house, including the showers, floors, etc., and his own Suburban SUV.

No bloody clothes were found. They never found the TWO Different guns that were used to kill Paul and Maggie. One Shotgun and one Rifle. No traces of the guns, the blood, Alec and Maggie's cell phones did not match up, and neither did the On Star Data.

Alec was a drug addicted thieving scumbag. But I do not think he is a murdered.

Posted by: rd at March 02, 2023 07:45 PM (Z32m1)

66 Todd Kendhammer is another wife-murderer whose cross-examination you will relish. What a dick.

Posted by: Mentholated Smooth-Drawing gp at March 02, 2023 07:45 PM (MvF+J)

67 If *I* was on the jury it would have been hung...

Posted by: Hawkpilot at March 02, 2023 07:46 PM (d77Hc)

68 Thanks, Thomas Bender.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at March 02, 2023 07:46 PM (DSB5h)

69 55 @32 was rather Janna Spilbor? She's a lawyer across the river, great salesperson but friends who iknow worked for her said she's a complete idiot
Posted by: Smell the Glove at March 02, 2023 07:43 PM (xtxvv)

word on the street is she can suck the paint off an IKEA dining table

Posted by: blow job guy at March 02, 2023 07:47 PM (us2H3)

70 I could have sworn that I just heard that a juror was dismissed for some reason just today. I'm no court-ologist, but it's surprising that the verdict can come this soon after.

Or not. It might have helped speed up the proceedings.

Posted by: RIP Tyler Nichols - Those white supremacist cops will face justice at March 02, 2023 07:47 PM (qADMV)

71 I deliberately skipped the coverage of this. There are just too many stories about scumbags to pay attention to them all.

BUT: Former Baltimore DA Marylin Mosby has been declared indigent and will be represented by a public defender after her entire legal team quit. So that's pretty cool.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at March 02, 2023 07:47 PM (sWM8x)

72 "Pro-Tip:

Once a non-ONT thread gets above 300 or so, you never post your best stuff.

125 to 225 comments is the sweet spot.

Anything after that is risky.

Posted by: Thomas Bender "

Fuckin lol...this is so internet savvy.

Sometimes it's not good to be really good at something.

Posted by: eleven at March 02, 2023 07:47 PM (iziT8)

73 Yeah, he humanized hisself, all right.
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Like Sean Connery's character in The Man Who Would Be King ? That didn't work out so well either.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at March 02, 2023 07:47 PM (fs1hN)

74 Oooh, Mary Morgan on Timcast tonite.

Posted by: Mentholated Smooth-Drawing gp at March 02, 2023 07:47 PM (MvF+J)

75 If *I* was on the jury it would have been hung...
Posted by: Hawkpilot at March 02, 2023 07:46 PM (d77Hc)
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It would have been well hung with the Paolo.

Posted by: The Paolo at March 02, 2023 07:47 PM (krQz2)

76 @65

>>Alec was a drug addicted thieving scumbag. But I do not think he is a murdered.

Perhaps the one armed man did it?

But seriously, If he didn't do it, that sucks, but sometimes life sucks.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 02, 2023 07:48 PM (up/3i)

77 No bloody clothes were found. They never found the TWO Different guns that were used to kill Paul and Maggie. One Shotgun and one Rifle. No traces of the guns, the blood, Alec and Maggie's cell phones did not match up, and neither did the On Star Data.

Alec was a drug addicted thieving scumbag. But I do not think he is a murdered.

-

Rich white guy who lived a life doing horrible things.

I don't think this was about this case, but a judgment against him and his family.

Posted by: RIP Tyler Nichols - Those white supremacist cops will face justice at March 02, 2023 07:48 PM (qADMV)

78 "Alec was a drug addicted thieving scumbag. But I do not think he is a murdered.
Posted by: rd"

From what you have said, it sounds like they did not have the evidence.

Posted by: fd at March 02, 2023 07:49 PM (iayUP)

79 "65 I do not see how Alec could have cleaned up in a few minutes after the gunman was literally showered with blood and brains from a point blank shotgun blast to his own sons head. There was NO blood and NO DNA on any of his clothes, the golf cart he drove to the kennel and back to his house, inside the house, including the showers, floors, etc., and his own Suburban SUV.

No bloody clothes were found. They never found the TWO Different guns that were used to kill Paul and Maggie. One Shotgun and one Rifle. No traces of the guns, the blood, Alec and Maggie's cell phones did not match up, and neither did the On Star Data.

Alec was a drug addicted thieving scumbag. But I do not think he is a murdered.
Posted by: rd at March 02, 2023 07:45 PM (Z32m1)"

The shitbag's sons behavior was so egregious that I am 100% okay with someone getting away with framing this guy, if that in fact happened.

If I'm not mistaken his kid was a notorious drunk and killed some young woman. Originally everyone not only assumed her people did this, it was almost universally applauded.

Posted by: somedood at March 02, 2023 07:49 PM (N9SfE)

80 Eh, that'll buff out.

@WallStreetSilv Mar 1
Uh Oh ......

Subprime auto delinquencies are above the peak during 2009.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 02, 2023 07:49 PM (XF9Gj)

81 But that's not what he's on trial for. He's accused of killing his shit-for-brains son and his wife, from whom, I think, he was separated. Not sure of the motive.

-----------

Is Demonic Possession considered a legitimate motive?

Posted by: ShainS -- Transgenderism is the Tip of the Transhumanism Spear at March 02, 2023 07:49 PM (7QclL)

82 Rich white guy who lived a life doing horrible things.

I don't think this was about this case, but a judgment against him and his family.
Posted by: RIP Tyler Nichols - Those white supremacist cops will face justice at March 02, 2023 07:48 PM (qADMV)

Well, his family is mostly dead, so...

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 02, 2023 07:49 PM (CsVWE)

83 dont care

Posted by: rhennigantx at March 02, 2023 07:49 PM (BRHaw)

84 Alec was a drug addicted thieving scumbag. But I do not think he is a murdered.
Posted by: rd at March 02, 2023 07:45 PM (Z32m1)

Me neither. But its South Carolina. He got convicted of all the shit those jurors knew he'd done. Not necessarily this particular deal.

Just like my Old Man telling me, while belting my ass ... "I don't care if you didn't do this. You've done something".

Posted by: Just The Way It Is at March 02, 2023 07:50 PM (9rMHA)

85 Well, his family is mostly dead, so..

-

And all the anger taken out with laser like focus.

Posted by: RIP Tyler Nichols - Those white supremacist cops will face justice at March 02, 2023 07:51 PM (qADMV)

86
Who?

Posted by: portlandon at March 02, 2023 07:51 PM (+oR7L)

87 I'm not saying he doesn't deserve to rot in prison, but it would be highly ironic if he's been convicted on flimsy evidence. Which he might have.

Now, the documentary doesn't really go into detail about what evidence the state has, but of course, DA's, as he has been, sometimes get convictions without much evidence, merely because juries see the defendant as a piece of shit.

Which he is. So yeah, ironic, if that's what happened here.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 02, 2023 07:51 PM (M2qSa)

88 I could believe he paid somebody to do it.

Posted by: fd at March 02, 2023 07:51 PM (iayUP)

89 No bloody clothes found?

Painter's bunny suit and/or the clothes got put into a dumpster with the bunny suit.

A doctor forgot about blood mist. Clothes and shoes looked spotless but inside the cuffs was a mist of the wife's blood. Oopps.

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 02, 2023 07:51 PM (ZAOI3)

90 Just like my Old Man telling me, while belting my ass ... "I don't care if you didn't do this. You've done something".
-

This sums up things perfectly.

Posted by: RIP Tyler Nichols - Those white supremacist cops will face justice at March 02, 2023 07:52 PM (qADMV)

91 But that's not what he's on trial for. He's accused of killing his shit-for-brains son and his wife, from whom, I think, he was separated.

They weren't legally separated. She moved out of the family home some period I don't know before she was murdered. She was living in big house she personally owned. It came out after she was murdered that she'd started seeing a divorce lawyer not long before the murders.

I read a story months ago that friends of hers said she was sick and tired of checks she wrote on their joint account bouncing, and finding out at store checkouts that their joint credit cards were maxxed-out on occasion. But she couldn't get Alex to explain why.

Posted by: Gref at March 02, 2023 07:52 PM (AMIL/)

92 Posted by: rd at March 02, 2023 07:37 PM (Z32m1)

How did they explain the blood splatter or his voice on the Snapchat?
Posted by: polynikes at March 02, 2023 07:40 PM (Oivbi)

The "BLOOD SPATTER" evidence was a COMPLETE LIE. There was no human blood or DNA on the shirt they tested. They did a screening blood test that detected either some blood or some laundry Bleach on the white T-Shirt.

They later used a human specific blood test and DNA Tests on 74 (Seventy Four) different samples from the T-Shirt. NO Human (or ferret) Blood. No DNA from Paul, or Maggie either. The State was forced to retract the entire blood spatter report from an Oklahoma hired gun "Expert."

Posted by: rd at March 02, 2023 07:53 PM (Z32m1)

93 Who?
Posted by: portlandon

The guy on First !

Posted by: JT at March 02, 2023 07:53 PM (T4tVD)

94 So why did he lie to the cops about not being at the kennels?

Posted by: Jen the original at March 02, 2023 07:53 PM (2gIWv)

95 Well, his family is mostly dead, so...

So he needs compassion and understanding since he is now a widower... just like the Menendez boys are orphans.

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 02, 2023 07:53 PM (ZAOI3)

96 I read a story months ago that friends of hers said she was sick and tired of checks she wrote on their joint account bouncing, and finding out at store checkouts that their joint credit cards were maxxed-out on occasion. But she couldn't get Alex to explain why.
Posted by: Gref at March 02, 2023 07:52 PM (AMIL/)

Gambling or drugs?

Or Warhammer 40k?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 02, 2023 07:53 PM (CsVWE)

97
Another pro-tip:

The first 70 comments on the Cafe post are about the stupid cute animals.

And the first 100 comments on the ONT are you Dummies saying "hi" to each other.

Posted by: Proper Soothsayer at March 02, 2023 07:53 PM (G/QLV)

98 well, Murdaugh is not me

so I fail to see how this matters

Posted by: REDACTED at March 02, 2023 07:53 PM (us2H3)

99 Thank you, Anna Puma. You are a giver.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at March 02, 2023 07:54 PM (u82oZ)

100 If I'm not mistaken his kid was a notorious drunk and killed some young woman. Originally everyone not only assumed her people did this, it was almost universally applauded.
Posted by: somedood at March 02, 2023 07:49 PM (N9SfE)

Not only did he kill the girl by drunkenly wrecking his boat, but this guy, Alec, and Alec's father, who is another piece of shit, immediately tried to blame the other kid in the boat, and spent hours and hours trying to cover up for the kid, instead of focusing on finding the dead girl, or trying to le the truth out.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 02, 2023 07:54 PM (M2qSa)

101 I could believe he paid somebody to do it.

If he paid somebody else to do it, and not only didn't have an iron-clad alibi, but allowed his own voice to be recorded at the crime scene, he deserves to be convicted for being an idiot.

Posted by: Hawkpilot at March 02, 2023 07:54 PM (d77Hc)

102 So he needs compassion and understanding since he is now a widower... just like the Menendez boys are orphans.
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 02, 2023 07:53 PM (ZAOI3)

LOL!

And poor OJ continues to look for his ex-wife's killer.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 02, 2023 07:55 PM (M2qSa)

103 This family sounds kind of Kennedy-like.

Posted by: fd at March 02, 2023 07:55 PM (iayUP)

104 And the first 100 comments on the ONT are you Dummies saying "hi" to each other.
Posted by: Proper Soothsayer at March 02, 2023 07:53 PM (G/QLV)

and yet you read them

Posted by: REDACTED at March 02, 2023 07:55 PM (us2H3)

105 And the first 100 comments on the ONT are you Dummies saying "hi" to each other.
Posted by: Proper Soothsayer

Hi Sooth!!

Posted by: Tonypete at March 02, 2023 07:55 PM (qoGsy)

106 The first 70 comments on the Cafe post are about the stupid cute animals.

And the first 100 comments on the ONT are you Dummies saying "hi" to each other.
Posted by: Proper Soothsayer at March 02, 2023 07:53 PM (G/QLV)

Objection! If there are boobs anywhere among the videos, the first 70 comments will be about boobs.

Has ace ever barreled a cafe?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 02, 2023 07:55 PM (CsVWE)

107 "Gambling or drugs?"

Drugs. Enough to spend millions of dollars on, yet not enough to kill him. The good shit.

Posted by: Mentholated Smooth-Drawing gp at March 02, 2023 07:55 PM (MvF+J)

108 Short people got no reason to live.

Posted by: Randy Newman at March 02, 2023 07:55 PM (a3Q+t)

109 So why did he lie to the cops about not being at the kennels?

-

Habit, probably. I have barely kept up, but it's my understanding he essentially had veto authority over a number of things that they'd be in charge of and could walk into hospitals to tell people in surgery not to say anything about what his drunk kids had done.

Posted by: RIP Tyler Nichols - Those white supremacist cops will face justice at March 02, 2023 07:55 PM (qADMV)

110 105 And the first 100 comments on the ONT are you Dummies saying "hi" to each other.
Posted by: Proper Soothsayer

Hi Sooth!!
Posted by: Tonypete at March 02, 2023 07:55 PM (qoGsy)

*golfclap*

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 02, 2023 07:55 PM (CsVWE)

111 bunny suit
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Did the guy from Biden's W.H. Easter Egg Roll/Hunt have an alibi??

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 02, 2023 07:55 PM (Vwz3I)

112 Snapchat did this scumbag in.

Posted by: mpfs , In a permanent state of confusion at March 02, 2023 07:56 PM (Q9/40)

113 is Carter still alive ?

Posted by: runner at March 02, 2023 07:56 PM (V13WU)

114 The worst part is how all of this trial money was wasted instead of being sent to Ukraine.

Posted by: RIP Tyler Nichols - Those white supremacist cops will face justice at March 02, 2023 07:56 PM (qADMV)

115 I could believe he paid somebody to do it.
Posted by: fd at March 02, 2023 07:51 PM (iayUP)

Even if he didn't pull the triggers, I suspect he was there. He's horrible enough he would want to witness his wife and asshole son getting murdered.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 02, 2023 07:56 PM (M2qSa)

116 sounds like a family of assholes, just sayin

Posted by: CppThis at March 02, 2023 07:56 PM (PZvjL)

117
I'm gettin' to old for this shit.

Posted by: The other Murtaugh at March 02, 2023 07:57 PM (+oR7L)

118 Another pro-tip:

The first 70 comments on the Cafe post are about the stupid cute animals.

And the first 100 comments on the ONT are you Dummies saying "hi" to each other.
Posted by: Proper Soothsayer

I'm not usually awake for an ONT, so ya can't blame THAT on me !

Posted by: JT at March 02, 2023 07:57 PM (T4tVD)

119
Subprime auto delinquencies are above the peak during 2009.
Posted by: weft cut-loop

I can't get over how Everybody has a new car, today. young people who don't have any money are "buying" $40K cars like it's normal.

Posted by: Proper Soothsayer at March 02, 2023 07:57 PM (G/QLV)

120 Sort of like if "Ozark" was set in S Carolina.

Posted by: Mentholated Smooth-Drawing gp at March 02, 2023 07:58 PM (MvF+J)

121 34 Murdaugh was eager to admit that he was a drug-addicted thief, but felt that admitting murder was his bridge-too-far. He's principled.

Posted by: Mentholated Smooth-Drawing gp at March 02, 2023 07:40 PM (MvF+J)

When a pathological liar has finally been cornered because of many huge lies, and sees no way out of total ruin if things continue on the current path, there's no telling what he'll do to escape, even for a short time.

Posted by: Gref at March 02, 2023 07:58 PM (AMIL/)

122 sounds like a family of assholes, just sayin
Posted by: CppThis at March 02, 2023 07:56 PM (PZvjL)

Multi-generational assholes.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 02, 2023 07:58 PM (M2qSa)

123 " Everybody has a new car, today. young people who don't have any money are "buying" $40K cars like it's normal."

Well, there aren't any used ones on account of "Cash for Clunkers" so...

Posted by: FeatherBlade at March 02, 2023 07:58 PM (yjqnG)

124
My "new" car that I bought used is now 14 years old!

And the only new car I ever bought sleeps in my driveway, 22 years old.

Posted by: Proper Soothsayer at March 02, 2023 07:58 PM (G/QLV)

125 They weren't legally separated. She moved out of the family home some period I don't know before she was murdered. She was living in big house she personally owned. It came out after she was murdered that she'd started seeing a divorce lawyer not long before the murders.

I read a story months ago that friends of hers said she was sick and tired of checks she wrote on their joint account bouncing, and finding out at store checkouts that their joint credit cards were maxxed-out on occasion. But she couldn't get Alex to explain why.
Posted by: Gref

===========================

There was no evidence of any divorce lawyers. Alec made millions as a Personal Injury Lawyer (and STOLE Millions more from his own clients), and loved his wife. She was at the Beach House, supervising the remodeling. EVERYONE said they both loved each other, including the State's own witnesses.

No, she never had her credit cards denied.

Alec attended all his kids baseball games, etc. Everyone said he loved Paul with all his heart.

Lots of lies by Netflix and HBO about all the "evidence."

Posted by: rd at March 02, 2023 07:59 PM (Z32m1)

126 If I'm not mistaken his kid was a notorious drunk and killed some young woman. Originally everyone not only assumed her people did this, it was almost universally applauded.

Posted by: somedood at March 02, 2023 07:49 PM (N9SfE)

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Damn, he was fully qualified for and just on his way to Harvard Law School -- and expected to pursue a promising career as the youngest Junior U.S. Senator from Massachusetts.

Posted by: ShainS -- Transgenderism is the Tip of the Transhumanism Spear at March 02, 2023 07:59 PM (7QclL)

127 Short people got no reason to live.
Posted by: Randy Newman at March 02, 2023 07:55 PM

I'm right here, you know.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 02, 2023 07:59 PM (Wnv9h)

128 It's interesting how at least the first 100 comments on the Art Thread are serious, studious, and often scholarly remarks on the subject.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 02, 2023 07:59 PM (a3Q+t)

129 Subprime auto delinquencies are above the peak during 2009.
Posted by: weft cut-loop

I can't get over how Everybody has a new car, today. young people who don't have any money are "buying" $40K cars like it's normal.

Posted by: Proper Soothsayer at March 02, 2023 07:57 PM (G/QLV)

Too expensive to go bankrupt buying a house, I guess.

Posted by: Oldcat at March 02, 2023 08:00 PM (eoQWY)

130 Looks like he is by far the biggest dude in that court room. He might end up being the guy doing all the raping in prison.

Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at March 02, 2023 08:00 PM (qbRyg)

131 I read a story months ago that friends of hers said she was sick and tired of checks she wrote on their joint account bouncing, and finding out at store checkouts that their joint credit cards were maxxed-out on occasion. But she couldn't get Alex to explain why.
Posted by: Gref at March 02, 2023 07:52 PM (AMIL/)

If they were Joint accounts, why didn't she just get copies of the bills?

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 02, 2023 08:00 PM (oHd/0)

132 " Everybody has a new car, today. young people who don't have any money are "buying" $40K cars like it's normal."
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Well, there aren't any used ones on account of "Cash for Clunkers" so...
Posted by: FeatherBlade at March 02, 2023 07:58 PM (yjqnG)

I saw a video the other day, about how Frod is having all sorts of problems because dealers are marking up their shitty trucks, to the point where they can't sell them.

A vehicle that has a sticker of $80K, they're marking up to $95K or more.

My question is, who the heck is buying their shitty trucks at $80K???

Posted by: BurtTC at March 02, 2023 08:01 PM (M2qSa)

133 "It's interesting how at least the first 100 comments on the Art Thread are serious, studious, and often scholarly remarks on the subject."

And still great fun, despite that.

Posted by: Mentholated Smooth-Drawing gp at March 02, 2023 08:01 PM (MvF+J)

134 All are begrimed.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at March 02, 2023 08:01 PM (ybIRR)

135
..and yet you read them
Posted by: REDACTED

Where were you when I needed help refinish my kitchen tables?

Luckily I had others here advising me.

Posted by: Proper Soothsayer at March 02, 2023 08:01 PM (G/QLV)

136 " Alec made millions as a Personal Injury Lawyer (and STOLE Millions more from his own clients)"

So... assuming that theft is wrong because it steals what another person worked to earn, thereby stealing the portion of that person's life that they spent to earn it, at what point does one steal enough that it reaches the value of a human life, and the theft becomes equivalent to murder?

Posted by: FeatherBlade at March 02, 2023 08:01 PM (yjqnG)

137
Murdaugh was dropping $50K per week on his opioid habit. $80 per pill, IIRC. Oxycodone, which he bought from his drug dealer cousin.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz) at March 02, 2023 08:01 PM (Mzdiz)

138
sounds like a family of assholes, just sayin
Posted by: CppThis

Spaceballs

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 02, 2023 08:02 PM (63Dwl)

139 Where were you when I needed help refinish my kitchen tables?

Luckily I had others here advising me.
Posted by: Proper Soothsayer at March 02, 2023 08:01 PM (G/QLV)

I would be little help in refinishing anything

Posted by: REDACTED at March 02, 2023 08:02 PM (us2H3)

140 Former Baltimore DA Marylin Mosby has been declared indigent and will be represented by a public defender after her entire legal team quit. So that's pretty cool.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis

Cooler still would be driving her to court, Freddie Gray style.

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at March 02, 2023 08:03 PM (rHYl/)

141 My question is, who the heck is buying their shitty trucks at $80K???
Posted by: BurtTC

Soldiers, Marines and Sailors fresh out of bootcamp?

Posted by: Tonypete at March 02, 2023 08:03 PM (qoGsy)

142 So... assuming that theft is wrong because it steals what another person worked to earn, thereby stealing the portion of that person's life that they spent to earn it, at what point does one steal enough that it reaches the value of a human life, and the theft becomes equivalent to murder?

Posted by: FeatherBlade at March 02, 2023 08:01 PM (yjqnG)

Oh... about 1/1000th of our current debt.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 02, 2023 08:03 PM (CsVWE)

143 I'm thinking FOX could put OJ on with that smoke show, Emily. If nothing else when OJ pisses her off she could cancel his check once and for all.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at March 02, 2023 08:03 PM (Jg7EG)

144 This post of mine was willowed in the previous thread -

A big hole in Murdaugh's claim that people angered by his son Paul's killing of teen girl in a boating accident (when Paul was drunk off his ass) must have killed Paul and his mother, Maggie, is: why didn't those angry people kill Alex, Paul's father, too? They had a terrific opportunity to do so that same night.

I believe the jury had to have wondered about this.

Posted by: Gref at March 02, 2023 08:03 PM (AMIL/)

145 "Oxycodone, which he bought from his drug dealer cousin."

Derb reports having dropped oxy recently. He pronounced it "good."

Posted by: Mentholated Smooth-Drawing gp at March 02, 2023 08:03 PM (MvF+J)

146
I saw something today about Ford wanting to install "lockout" devices on delinquent car buyers AND have those cars "drive itself" to the impound lot.

Posted by: Proper Soothsayer at March 02, 2023 08:03 PM (G/QLV)

147 $80 a pill! Everything about this guy is insane. There are really people like this out there.

Posted by: fd at March 02, 2023 08:03 PM (iayUP)

148 Murdaugh was dropping $50K per week on his opioid habit. $80 per pill, IIRC. Oxycodone, which he bought from his drug dealer cousin.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz)

==================

Cousin Eddie was an appellation.

Posted by: rd at March 02, 2023 08:04 PM (Z32m1)

149 I hate Randy Newman with the white hot power of a thousand shortnesses.

Posted by: eleven at March 02, 2023 08:04 PM (iziT8)

150 You are welcome Salty Dawg, if they pull it off simply wow.

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 02, 2023 08:04 PM (ZAOI3)

151 OJ was lucky he wasn't tried in SC.

Posted by: Regular joe at March 02, 2023 08:05 PM (nnp+f)

152 ||Cheryl Santa Maria
Thu, March 2, 2023 at 12:22 p.m. EST·3 min read

126-year-old, 'well-preserved' ship found in Lake Huron
Scientists from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) have discovered the remains of a 126-year-old shipwreck in Lake Huron, remarkably well-preserved for over a century, thanks to the cool waters in the Great Lakes. It is sitting upright on the lakebed with its three masts still standing.

The Ironton, a 58-metre-long ship, sank in 1894 after colliding with a grain hauler.

It sank quickly - dragging the captain and six sailors underwater before the lifeboat could be detached. Only two crewmembers survived.||
2:07 video: https://tinyurl.com/ya36k3u9

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 02, 2023 08:05 PM (Vwz3I)

153 "My question is, who the heck is buying their shitty trucks at $80K???"

Here in Rockford, it seems to be mostly Mexicans. Hard for us sedan-drivers to see around them in traffic and parking lots.

Posted by: Mentholated Smooth-Drawing gp at March 02, 2023 08:05 PM (MvF+J)

154
btw, used car dealers install (read: hide) a GPS tracking device on their financed cars.

What happens is years later, all these chinese-made junk GPS tracking devices shit the bed and create electrical issues for the car owner.

Posted by: Proper Soothsayer at March 02, 2023 08:05 PM (G/QLV)

155 Netflix sux bulls, but they do put out legit above average true crime docs and mini series. After watching the Netflix doc, I came to the conclusion that the closet homo oldest brother who totes didn't kill his high school lover has more to do with the Murder and cover up at their land.
Also opioid junkies would kill to keep their secrets safe.
He is guilty of murder based on the cover-up. He helped clean things up and covered for his oldest son or dealer/trafficker who did the deed.
60k a month in Oxycodone.
Insane.

Posted by: Gooning Gary at March 02, 2023 08:06 PM (F24yq)

156 Lots of lies by Netflix and HBO about all the "evidence."
Posted by: rd at March 02, 2023 07:59 PM (Z32m1)

Oh, in that case maybe he just oopsie, accidentally shot and killed his beloved wife and son.

And the maid. And the kid his gay son was banging.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 02, 2023 08:06 PM (M2qSa)

157 Well after bed time
Everyone have a great evening

Posted by: Skip at March 02, 2023 08:06 PM (xhxe8)

158
I would be little help in refinishing anything
Posted by: REDACTED

I needed to know the species and how to approach it.

Posted by: Proper Soothsayer at March 02, 2023 08:06 PM (G/QLV)

159 $80 a pill! Everything about this guy is insane. There are really people like this out there.
Posted by: fd at March 02, 2023 08:03 PM (iayUP)

And when their families run small towns in America, everyone around them suffers.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 02, 2023 08:07 PM (M2qSa)

160 Night skip.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 02, 2023 08:07 PM (CsVWE)

161 It's interesting how at least the first 100 comments on the Art Thread are serious, studious, and often scholarly remarks on the subject.
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And boobs.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 02, 2023 08:07 PM (Vwz3I)

162 OJ needs a dirt nap.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at March 02, 2023 08:08 PM (ZEMpz)

163 Didn't a housekeeper die in some fall accident at the family estate?

Not saying one of the Murdaugh's had anything to do with it. But, still interesting.

Posted by: Tonypete at March 02, 2023 08:08 PM (qoGsy)

164 Sort of like if "Ozark" was set in S Carolina.

Posted by: Mentholated Smooth-Drawing gp at March 02, 2023 07:58 PM (MvF+J)

---------

Heh. That show was a trainwreck, a poorly-attempted shadow of Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul, but a guilty pleasure nonetheless as I thought the acting was pretty good (despite Laura Linney looking like she should have been Jason Bateman's mother instead of his wife).

I think the over/under on Deus Ex Machinas each episode would be an even dozen, so extreme suspension of disbelief required. And hey, who doesn't want to see a live concert by REO Speedwagon?

/Okay, Time for Me to Fly ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Transgenderism is the Tip of the Transhumanism Spear at March 02, 2023 08:08 PM (7QclL)

165 Here is a prosecution forensic evidence diagram of the kennel area that you may find interesting.

https://tinyurl.com/yrtscm39

Posted by: Gref at March 02, 2023 08:08 PM (AMIL/)

166 Murdaugh?

That guy's a dick!

Posted by: Jeff Spicoli at March 02, 2023 08:08 PM (tjZg/)

167 "Murdaugh was dropping $50K per week on his opioid habit. $80 per pill, IIRC. Oxycodone,"

How was he able to take a shit? How did he survive that dosage? How did his colleagues not notice?

Posted by: Mentholated Smooth-Drawing gp at March 02, 2023 08:09 PM (MvF+J)

168 Anyway, really need to get back to the B-17F on the workbench.

A lot of interior details are common between an E and an F. At least initially. Must resist super detail-itis.

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 02, 2023 08:09 PM (ZAOI3)

169 Don't forget the housekeeper who died after falling down the stairs at the Murdaugh home. Alex then got her sons a multi-million dollar settlement from the insurance company but kept them in the dark and kept the money.

Not to mention the gay teenager who supposedly died in a hit-and-run accident (2018?) but authorities are looking into it as a possible homicide after info came to light while they investigated the Murdaugh family. Supposedly the eldest Murdaugh boy, Buster, may have been involved with the dead teen.

Lovely family.

Posted by: JuJuBee, fact checker hammered by events at March 02, 2023 08:09 PM (fDCYj)

170 Nite Skip !

Posted by: JT at March 02, 2023 08:09 PM (T4tVD)

171 I'd have to find a new drug at $80 a pop. Even cocaine would be cheaper.

Posted by: fd at March 02, 2023 08:10 PM (iayUP)

172 >>Murdaugh was dropping $50K per week on his opioid habit. $80 per pill, IIRC. Oxycodone, which he bought from his drug dealer cousin.

And moving that weight, you are in the inner circle of a trafficker working for gang/cartel/Dixie mafia. I'm positive they had been at the land to party. Hell, prolly helping out with the operation with that small plane and and airstrip.

Posted by: Gooning Gary at March 02, 2023 08:10 PM (F24yq)

173 I read a story months ago that friends of hers said she was sick and tired of checks she wrote on their joint account bouncing, and finding out at store checkouts that their joint credit cards were maxxed-out on occasion. But she couldn't get Alex to explain why.
Posted by: Gref at March 02, 2023 07:52 PM (AMIL/)

If they were Joint accounts, why didn't she just get copies of the bills?
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 02, 2023 08:00 PM (oHd/0)

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If the story was true? It would have been great evidence of a motive, AND the judge would have let it all in if there was any evidence of it. The judge let in all kinds of evidence that was supposedly already excluded by pretrial motions of limina (sp?). Like evidence of his stealing from his own clients. If there was any evidence of divorce lawyers, check kiting, etc? The judge would have let it in.

Posted by: rd at March 02, 2023 08:10 PM (Z32m1)

174 "a guilty pleasure nonetheless"

Yes, I enjoyed it.

Posted by: Mentholated Smooth-Drawing gp at March 02, 2023 08:10 PM (MvF+J)

175 Didn't a housekeeper die in some fall accident at the family estate?

Not saying one of the Murdaugh's had anything to do with it. But, still interesting.
Posted by: Tonypete at March 02, 2023 08:08 PM (qoGsy)

she witnessed something !

Posted by: runner at March 02, 2023 08:10 PM (V13WU)

176 Birdbath status reports this time of year are the ONLY important posts of the day.

Posted by: Rockin' Robin at March 02, 2023 08:11 PM (wrJpE)

177 Everybody knows some Murdaughs

Posted by: Eromero at March 02, 2023 08:11 PM (MF3yS)

178 "Murdaugh?

That guy's a dick!

Posted by: Jeff Spicoli"

You can't spell Murdaugh without murder, am i rite?

Posted by: eleven at March 02, 2023 08:11 PM (iziT8)

179 I saw something today about Ford wanting to install "lockout" devices on delinquent car buyers AND have those cars "drive itself" to the impound lot.
Posted by: Proper Soothsayer

Better hope they don't repo an Isis car

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at March 02, 2023 08:12 PM (rHYl/)

180 Jason Bateman is gold for some reason.

Posted by: eleven at March 02, 2023 08:12 PM (iziT8)

181 Pronounced Murdock but I like Mur-daw, it's a better fit.

Posted by: JuJuBee, fact checker hammered by events at March 02, 2023 08:13 PM (fDCYj)

182 Shingles hits droopy tits. [See? That rhymes.] ...

@Breaking911 · 1h
JUST IN: Sen. Feinstein Hospitalized In San Francisco

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 02, 2023 08:13 PM (Vwz3I)

183 " Everybody knows some Murdaughs

Posted by: Eromero "

They seem to run the fucking planet.

Posted by: eleven at March 02, 2023 08:13 PM (iziT8)

184 "Everybody knows some Murdaughs
Posted by: Eromero "

Sometime?

Posted by: Dean Martin at March 02, 2023 08:14 PM (iayUP)

185 OJ was lucky he wasn't tried in SC.
Posted by: Regular joe

OJ was lucky he wasn't tried in Brentwood where he committed the murders. The prosecution's call to have the trial downtown was the height of incompetence and hubris, worse even than the glove nonsense.

Posted by: SFGoth at March 02, 2023 08:14 PM (KAi1n)

186 @Breaking911 · 27m
Democratic Maryland Mayor Arrested On 56 Child Pornography Charges

||COLLEGE PARK, MD – After abruptly resigning from his position, the mayor of College Park was taken into custody on numerous charges related to child pornography.

Patrick Wojahn, 47, is facing 56 counts of possession and distribution of child pornography, according to a statement from the Prince George’s County Police Department on Thursday.||

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 02, 2023 08:15 PM (Vwz3I)

187
Dosage claims of Murdaugh is insane, 2000 mg per day.

That sounds insane, but addicts can develop quite a tolerance, and take doses that would kill a "naive" person dead right there.

That's a common OD mode for addicts. They go into withdrawal from lack of supply, then score some and take the previous dosage. Their tolerance had dropped in the meantime, and that "normal' dose is now lethal.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz) at March 02, 2023 08:15 PM (Mzdiz)

188 OJ needs a dirt nap.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at March 02, 2023 08:08 PM (ZEMpz)

---------

It seemed to me from interviews with Ron Goldman's father, Fred, that if he could have gotten away with having OJ's body "disappeared" -- he would have.

Part of me thought he'd still do it anyway, and happily confess if prosecuted. [It's a tough call as instinctively I'd want to revenge my child's murder and disgusting acquittal by a racist jury, but I'd have to weigh it against depriving the rest of my family of my presence and their grief at losing me as well.]

Posted by: ShainS -- Transgenderism is the Tip of the Transhumanism Spear at March 02, 2023 08:15 PM (7QclL)

189 This family sounds kind of Kennedy-like.
Posted by: fd

"...and when I shouted out
Who did the Kennedy's kill?
I mean after all
It was you and me!"

Posted by: Sympathy for Mick Jagger at March 02, 2023 08:15 PM (tjZg/)

190 I watched Murdaugh take the stand in his defense. He was an arrogant sob.

He admitted he was a liar, then changed his story on the stand.

Piece of Shit.

Posted by: mpfs , In a permanent state of confusion at March 02, 2023 08:15 PM (Q9/40)

191 @Breaking911 · 1 minute
New Jersey Woman Blows Herself Up In House Full Of Cats

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 02, 2023 08:15 PM (Vwz3I)

192 Little Platoon is using an avatar that apes his facial movements.

That's creepy. I realize that is what Vtubers do, that is different. It is somehow charming when it is some japanese girl. A dude, creepy.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 02, 2023 08:16 PM (CsVWE)

193 "Dosage claims of Murdaugh is insane, 2000 mg per day."

That would cause terminal constipation. Don't see how he could have survived that.

Posted by: Mentholated Smooth-Drawing gp at March 02, 2023 08:16 PM (MvF+J)

194 182 Shingles hits droopy tits. [See? That rhymes.] ...

@Breaking911 · 1h
JUST IN: Sen. Feinstein Hospitalized In San Francisco
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 02, 2023 08:13 PM (Vwz3I)

she's at Cedar Siani with the shakes

Posted by: REDACTED at March 02, 2023 08:16 PM (us2H3)

195 Posted by: rd at March 02, 2023 08:10 PM (Z32m1)

Didn't he also own a shotgun and a 300 blackout rifle at one time that could not be located?

Posted by: polynikes at March 02, 2023 08:16 PM (Oivbi)

196 If it wasn't for that fucking OJ we wouldn't have those nasty Kardashians sucking up all of that oxygen.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at March 02, 2023 08:16 PM (Jg7EG)

197 "Murdaugh was dropping $50K per week on his opioid habit."

That's insane! Then again, the supply axis of the supply and demand curve out here is off the chart. Still, that's insane.

Posted by: SFGoth at March 02, 2023 08:17 PM (KAi1n)

198 Y'all have no idea the crazy shit down south people like that do at their land especially if they have a plane and an airstrip.
These men will fly in dimes from NYC, Florida, and Cali, and every drug you can think of just for the long weekend of "bird hunting".

Posted by: Gooning Gary at March 02, 2023 08:17 PM (F24yq)

199 And moving that weight, you are in the inner circle of a trafficker working for gang/cartel/Dixie mafia. I'm positive they had been at the land to party. Hell, prolly helping out with the operation with that small plane and and airstrip.
Posted by: Gooning Gary at March 02, 2023 08:10 PM (F24yq)

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Except they planted a bunch of trees across the landing strip years ago.

Alec was a thieving, lying scumbag personal injury lawyer that stole millions from his own clients. But I do not think he killed his own wife and his (drunken, ne'er do well, idiot) son.

The State's supposed motive was Alec bought a month of time in dodging a civil suit from his son's boat accident that killed a beautiful girl. He could have bought the same time by referencing his sick father that died four days after Paul and Maggie were murdered.

Posted by: rd at March 02, 2023 08:17 PM (Z32m1)

200
He admitted he'd been addicted to oxy since 2000. So, he's been taking the shit for 20 years.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz) at March 02, 2023 08:18 PM (Mzdiz)

201 Feinstein isn't dead?

Who goes first?
Carter or Feinstein?

Posted by: mpfs , In a permanent state of confusion at March 02, 2023 08:18 PM (Q9/40)

202 191 @Breaking911 · 1 minute
New Jersey Woman Blows Herself Up In House Full Of Cats
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 02, 2023 08:15 PM (Vwz3I)

Too bad about Taylor Lorentz. *shakes head sadly*

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 02, 2023 08:18 PM (CsVWE)

203 195 Posted by: rd at March 02, 2023 08:10 PM (Z32m1)

Didn't he also own a shotgun and a 300 blackout rifle at one time that could not be located?

Posted by: polynikes at March 02, 2023 08:16 PM (Oivbi)

Yes

Posted by: Gref at March 02, 2023 08:18 PM (AMIL/)

204 Terminal constipation?

Cripes.

Do not like.

Posted by: eleven at March 02, 2023 08:18 PM (iziT8)

205
And hey, who doesn't want to see a live concert by REO Speedwagon?

/Okay, Time for Me to Fly ...
Posted by: ShainS -- Transgenderism is the Tip of the Transhumanism

Suddenly I'm hungry for a tuna fish sandwich.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 02, 2023 08:18 PM (63Dwl)

206 Livestream of current presser...

https://tinyurl.com/4mckxxs8

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 02, 2023 08:18 PM (Vwz3I)

207 Has the busty zoomer 'tard from the last post chimed in with her legal analysis yet?

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at March 02, 2023 08:19 PM (DTX3h)

208
Wow, so they're going to kill Feinstein to get rid of her.

Posted by: Proper Soothsayer at March 02, 2023 08:19 PM (G/QLV)

209 so if murdaugh is going to jail and his son is dead does that mean someone else will be running fox news?

Posted by: gnats local 678 at March 02, 2023 08:19 PM (kFrCu)

210 rather see a 57 nomad

Posted by: REDACTED at March 02, 2023 08:19 PM (us2H3)

211 Speaking of sociopathic assholes . . .

CSPAN@cspan
.@SenJohnKennedy at #CPAC: "I do not hate anyone. I look for grace wherever I can find it, so I say this gently: the Biden administration sucks...President Biden has been spectacularly awful."

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 02, 2023 08:19 PM (FVME7)

212 Feinstein isn't dead?

Who goes first?
Carter or Feinstein?
Posted by: mpfs

*adopts Zombie Jack Benny pose*

"I'm thinking!!"

Posted by: stan at March 02, 2023 08:19 PM (qoGsy)

213 @146

>>I saw something today about Ford wanting to install "lockout" devices on delinquent car buyers AND have those cars "drive itself" to the impound lot.

Ford has completely jumped the shark along with their cadre of dealers.

They now multiple vehicles across their verticals in excess of 100k.

Insanity.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 02, 2023 08:19 PM (up/3i)

214 > I saw something today about Ford wanting to install "lockout" devices on delinquent car buyers AND have those cars "drive itself" to the impound lot.
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Probably not a Ford, but perhaps a Tesla? Ford doesn't have any commercially available "self driving" vehicles.

But they do have the ability to disable your vehicle if it's "connected" via the Internet (like through "Ford Pass") or GM's "OnStar."

Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 02, 2023 08:20 PM (Q4IgG)

215 That would cause terminal constipation. Don't see how he could have survived that.
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No shit??

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 02, 2023 08:20 PM (Vwz3I)

216 That's a common OD mode for addicts. They go into withdrawal from lack of supply, then score some and take the previous dosage. Their tolerance had dropped in the meantime, and that "normal' dose is now lethal.
Posted by: publius,

Especially celebrities who go to detox. Couple of months down the road, invited to a cast party, hey, wanna shoot up again? Just gimme half the old dose. See ya.

Posted by: SFGoth at March 02, 2023 08:20 PM (KAi1n)

217 208
Wow, so they're going to kill Feinstein to get rid of her.
Posted by: Proper Soothsayer at March 02, 2023 08:19 PM (G/QLV)

They'll just make sure she is caught up on her vaccinations.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 02, 2023 08:20 PM (CsVWE)

218 It's not the high dosage opioid in the hydrocodone that will kill you but the acetaminophen.

Posted by: polynikes at March 02, 2023 08:20 PM (Oivbi)

219
I mean, kinda timely for Feinstein to get ill...just after she said she isn't resigning.

Of course they're going to kill her. Democrats are evil.

Posted by: Proper Soothsayer at March 02, 2023 08:20 PM (G/QLV)

220 201 Feinstein isn't dead?

Who goes first?
Carter or Feinstein?
Posted by: mpfs , In a permanent state of confusion at March 02, 2023 08:18 PM (Q9/40)

wait just a fucking minute !!

Posted by: Lumpy at March 02, 2023 08:20 PM (us2H3)

221 His attorneys asked for a mistrial? If you get a guilty verdict you can just do that? Doesn't seem right.

(Probably pretty obvious but I'm not an attorney.)

Also, OJ has a lot of nerve commenting on this. Although I had to laugh when he said he was incarcerated for "one of my cases."

Posted by: bluebell at March 02, 2023 08:20 PM (pTb/Z)

222 The judge is right - the evidence he did it was overwhelming. When the circumstantial evidence is a landslide, and then you decide to testify to save the case and you're caught lying about your alibi (and everything else) on the stand, the jury is gonna convict you 100 times out of 100. Truth.

Posted by: Nova Local at March 02, 2023 08:21 PM (exHjb)

223 That would cause terminal constipation. Don't see how he could have survived that.
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No shit??
Posted by: andycanuck

$50,000/week - $5,000 for the dope, $45,000 for the colonic and colostomy bags.

Posted by: SFGoth at March 02, 2023 08:21 PM (KAi1n)

224 Democratic Maryland Mayor Arrested On 56 Child Pornography Charges

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BREAKING: Netflix's Pedophile Production Division -- Rumored to be Overseen by The Obamas and Susan Rice -- Announces Plans to Reboot Popular 2000's-era Gritty Baltimore TV Drama. Coming Soon -- "The Wire: Cuties."

Posted by: ShainS -- Transgenderism is the Tip of the Transhumanism Spear at March 02, 2023 08:21 PM (7QclL)

225 The Jimmy Carter news is coming any day now.

Curious to see what kind of coverage the Democrats give him.

Posted by: eleven at March 02, 2023 08:21 PM (iziT8)

226 Uganda has a better president than ours.

https://bit.ly/3ypXVUV

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 02, 2023 08:22 PM (FVME7)

227 @175

>>she witnessed something !

A lot of people around the Murdaugh's end up dead, including the Murdaugh's.

Not a nice family.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 02, 2023 08:22 PM (up/3i)

228
Self-Repo Technology, they're calling it.

https://youtu.be/K1IJn5wJBqw

Posted by: Proper Soothsayer at March 02, 2023 08:23 PM (G/QLV)

229 when you see Rosalyn on grindr, you'll know the time is nigh

Posted by: REDACTED at March 02, 2023 08:23 PM (us2H3)

230 144 A big hole in Murdaugh's claim that people angered by his son Paul's killing of teen girl in a boating accident (when Paul was drunk off his ass) must have killed Paul and his mother, Maggie, is: why didn't those angry people kill Alex, Paul's father, too? They had a terrific opportunity to do so that same night.

I believe the jury had to have wondered about this.
Posted by: Gref at March 02, 2023 08:03 PM (AMIL/)

Well, if they're really sneaky, it occurs to me that a great way to obtain True Southern Justice aka reciprocity against a scumbag lawyer who exploited the system to protect the girl's killer would be to arrange things so that the weight of said system crashes down on the scumbag lawyer. Not saying that's what happens--I have zero knowledge of any of this beyond Ace's summary--but that too would be worth considering.

Posted by: CppThis at March 02, 2023 08:23 PM (PZvjL)

231 If Feinstein and Lumpy don't come back to the Senate and the GOP rams through a lot of anti-communist legislation before they can be replaced, well that would just be all kinds of awesome.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at March 02, 2023 08:24 PM (sWM8x)

232 I think he probably did it, but I'd have acquitted him. There was plenty of reasonable doubt.

When the AG of the State gives a gleeful, post-trial press conference and brags about how every time the prosecution team would go out, people would come up to them and shake their hands, I think you have a massively tainted jury pool.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at March 02, 2023 08:24 PM (buF98)

233 There is another son who I think has disappeared. Imagine having your brother and mother shot to death and your father just declared guilty of murder.I think I'd want to go into hiding too.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 02, 2023 08:25 PM (ncdr/)

234 Wow, so they're going to kill Feinstein to get rid of her.
Posted by: Proper Soothsayer at March 02, 2023 08:19 PM (G/QLV)

They'll just make sure she is caught up on her vaccinations.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 02, 2023 08:20 PM (CsVWE)

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She should always be wearing an N-95 mask, just to be sure.

Posted by: ShainS -- Transgenderism is the Tip of the Transhumanism Spear at March 02, 2023 08:25 PM (7QclL)

235 It's not the high dosage opioid in the hydrocodone that will kill you but the acetaminophen.
Posted by: polynikes

Good point. So long as you don't acutely OD on the opioid, it's not terribly hard on your body, like alcohol or PCP. However, over time, a regular acetaminophen habit (being the other ingredient in oxy/vico/whatever) will wreck your liver, especially when you have to increase your dosage to get more ope. Maybe he was paying extra for no-tylenol.

Posted by: SFGoth at March 02, 2023 08:25 PM (KAi1n)

236 I hope feinstein can run again so adam schift is stuck in the house for another term. please, mista mccarthy, can't i have my own subcommittee to investigate putin's interference in the price of card board?

Posted by: gnats local 678 at March 02, 2023 08:26 PM (kFrCu)

237 ||Ford Motor Company filed a US patent application that shows autonomous or semi-autonomous vehicles could potentially repossess themselves if their owners miss lease or loan payments.

The idea of self-driving cars repossessing themselves might sound dystopian, but it is not surprising that automakers are considering this technology to ensure payment. Repossession is a common practice, and as we've described recently, cracks are beginning to form in the subprime auto loan market (read: here & here).

While this patent application was first filed in Aug. 2021 and formally published on Feb. 23, it could be years before Ford implements such a technology.

The patent, titled "Systems and Methods to Repossess a Vehicle," explains how a future lineup of Ford vehicles would be capable of "[disabling] a functionality of one or more components of the vehicle."||
https://tinyurl.com/mv89v4re

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 02, 2023 08:26 PM (Vwz3I)

238 If Feinstein and Lumpy don't come back to the Senate and the GOP rams through a lot of anti-communist legislation before they can be replaced, well that would just be all kinds of awesome.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist

What a dream scenario!
I can hear McConnell saying "That's NOT who we are!"

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ This October in Corsicana- again! ~ at March 02, 2023 08:26 PM (hOUT3)

239 Didn't he also own a shotgun and a 300 blackout rifle at one time that could not be located?
Posted by: polynikes at March 02, 2023 08:16 PM (Oivbi)
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They located all the shotguns. About a half dozen different ones in the house. None of them could be directly, definitively tied to the two shotshells left at the scene of Paul's murder.

There were three 300 blackout rifles. One was stolen from Paul's truck several years ago, that was a twin to Buster's 300 Blackout with a sweet Night Vision scope. It was replaced by another, tan 300 blackout rifle that Paul may have lost a few months before murders too.

They never found the rifle or the shotgun. No one could locate the murder weapons. Why would Alec use two different weapons, and how did he get rid of them. On Star proved he went no where except to his mothers house and back that night. No stops. No detours.

Where did the guns and bloody clothes go?

Posted by: rd at March 02, 2023 08:27 PM (Z32m1)

240 when you see Rosalyn on grindr, you'll know the time is nigh

Posted by: REDACTED at March 02, 2023 08:23 PM (us2H3)

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I wonder if Dr. Jill will let her borrow an outfit for the State Funeral (which they're gonna have to delay until McCain's funeral ends).

Posted by: ShainS -- Transgenderism is the Tip of the Transhumanism Spear at March 02, 2023 08:27 PM (7QclL)

241 Also, the whole family patriarch killing his son the killer reminds me of that one guy who killed his girlfriend and went on the run a year or so ago. It was a Current Thing for a while because, eh who knows why, maybe it distracted against Slow Joe's mishandling of Covidmania or something. Whatever. Anyway, I do remember that he eventually turned up dead, officially suicide but strongly implied that at least one of the sets of parents got involved and handled some family business.

Posted by: CppThis at March 02, 2023 08:27 PM (PZvjL)

242 Judge Janine just now. He couldn't hear the 'gunshot wounds'. Oh!

Posted by: micky at March 02, 2023 08:27 PM (3byMq)

243 $50,000/week - $5,000 for the dope, $45,000 for the colonic and colostomy bags.
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Wrecked'im?? It nearly killed'im!

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 02, 2023 08:27 PM (Vwz3I)

244 And now for something completely different. If Lynyrd Skynyrd were from southern Scotland.

Lynyrd Skynyrd - Wikipedia

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 02, 2023 08:27 PM (FVME7)

245 Are you sure oxys contain ibuprofen? I think vicodin has tylenol.

Posted by: Mentholated Smooth-Drawing gp at March 02, 2023 08:28 PM (MvF+J)

246 Can someone explain to me the point of Tylenol for anything ever?

Posted by: eleven at March 02, 2023 08:28 PM (iziT8)

247 There is another son who I think has disappeared.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 02, 2023 08:25 PM (ncdr/)

Buster...he was in the courtroom today.

Posted by: BignJames at March 02, 2023 08:28 PM (AwYPR)

248
Yeah, andy, that's it.

And then they'll take away your car for "spreading misinformation" or using too much gas.

Eventually, the government will be controlling the driverless car technology.

Posted by: Proper Soothsayer at March 02, 2023 08:28 PM (G/QLV)

249 @Breaking911 · 1h
JUST IN: Sen. Feinstein Hospitalized In San Francisco
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 02, 2023 08:13 PM (Vwz3I)

she's at Cedar Siani with the shakes
Posted by: REDACTED at March 02, 2023 08:16 PM (us2H3)

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What, the Betty Ford Center wasn't available?

Posted by: ShainS -- Transgenderism is the Tip of the Transhumanism Spear at March 02, 2023 08:29 PM (7QclL)

250 @225
will the memorials last longer than the McCain funeral?

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at March 02, 2023 08:29 PM (ssESX)

251 Uganda has a better president than ours.
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The Greek Minister of Transport resigned after the big train collision.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 02, 2023 08:29 PM (Vwz3I)

252 re 231: not with mcconnell and ms lindsay in charge. legalizing 10 million illegals on the other hand, maybe, because the dems would want 20 million and the important thing is to compromise and meet half way. john mccain would rise from his coffin to congratulate everyone if he wasn't already dead.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at March 02, 2023 08:29 PM (kFrCu)

253 Anyway, I do remember that he eventually turned up dead, officially suicide but strongly implied that at least one of the sets of parents got involved and handled some family business.
Posted by: CppThis at March 02, 2023 08:27 PM (PZvjL)

Yeah, that one is a good parallel. That he was beating her. That she was violent. All sorts of stories and theories tossed back and forth.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 02, 2023 08:29 PM (CsVWE)

254 didn't follow this case closely (too tedious) but I'm glad he went down hard.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 02, 2023 08:30 PM (r46W7)

255 Murdaugh and the defense council could never explain how the Snapchat video placed him at the kennels minutes before the murder. Murdaugh denied he was there.

Oops.

Posted by: mpfs , In a permanent state of confusion at March 02, 2023 08:30 PM (Q9/40)

256 226 Uganda has a better president than ours.

https://bit.ly/3ypXVUV
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 02, 2023 08:22 PM (FVME7)
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Damn, that stings!

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at March 02, 2023 08:30 PM (ssESX)

257 Posted by: rd at March 02, 2023 08:27 PM (Z32m1)

He lost two .300 Blackout rifles? How does that happen except for snarky comments at aos.

Posted by: polynikes at March 02, 2023 08:30 PM (Oivbi)

258 she's at Cedar Siani with the shakes
Posted by: REDACTED at March 02, 2023 08:16 PM (us2H3)

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What, the Betty Ford Center wasn't available?
Posted by: ShainS -- Transgenderism is the Tip of the Transhumanism Spear at March 02, 2023 08:29 PM (7QclL)

read it again
I think you're missing the stupidity of my comment

Posted by: REDACTED at March 02, 2023 08:31 PM (us2H3)

259 Messed up the Lynyrd Skynyrd link.

https://youtu.be/27in81lrf6M

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 02, 2023 08:31 PM (FVME7)

260
Worse? The state never presented enough evidence of guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.
Posted by: rd at March 02, 2023 07:37 PM (Z32m1)

The Jury says that they did. So, you got an argument with the Jury, but they win.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 02, 2023 08:31 PM (r46W7)

261 "This case reminded me of a scene in the The Devil's Adovcate."

Fun fact:
The Devil's Advocate is the name of a cool pub in Edinburgh.

Posted by: DaisyB at March 02, 2023 08:31 PM (AbL8c)

262 251 Uganda has a better president than ours.
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Hasn't hq

Posted by: N. Lurker at March 02, 2023 08:31 PM (eGTCV)

263 Maybe he was paying extra for no-tylenol.
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Safety first!

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 02, 2023 08:31 PM (Vwz3I)

264 232 I think he probably did it, but I'd have acquitted him. There was plenty of reasonable doubt.

When the AG of the State gives a gleeful, post-trial press conference and brags about how every time the prosecution team would go out, people would come up to them and shake their hands, I think you have a massively tainted jury pool.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at March 02, 2023 08:24 PM (buF9

Those small town and rural South Carolina folks on the jury likely have a lot of experience that lets them spot a bald-faced liar a mile away

Posted by: Gref at March 02, 2023 08:31 PM (AMIL/)

265 Gasbt ge beeb oreseudebt fir 50 y3q4w,

Posted by: N. Lurker at March 02, 2023 08:32 PM (eGTCV)

266 Honest to God, I never heard so much testimony about wild pig hunting.

Posted by: mpfs , In a permanent state of confusion at March 02, 2023 08:32 PM (Q9/40)

267 Trying to find a list of oxy ingredients that mentions any other than oxycodone, no luck. And oxy is not hydrocodone.

Posted by: Mentholated Smooth-Drawing gp at March 02, 2023 08:32 PM (MvF+J)

268
Feinstein will be dead before Monday.

Posted by: I See Dead People at March 02, 2023 08:32 PM (G/QLV)

269 rd,

If you think he's innocent, then who did it?

People talk, especially in a small town.

Posted by: mpfs , In a permanent state of confusion at March 02, 2023 08:33 PM (Q9/40)

270 Good grief that last post was enbarassubg,

Posted by: N. Lurker at March 02, 2023 08:33 PM (eGTCV)

271 Murdaugh family is bad news but the state didn’t prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. I would have voted to acquit, though reluctantly.

Posted by: LadyS at March 02, 2023 08:34 PM (VGiJY)

272
Curious to see what kind of coverage the Democrats give him.
Posted by: eleven

It's already being posted:

"As former President Jimmy Carter receives home hospice care at the age of 98, misconceptions about his life are coming into focus as well. Most are rooted in some truth but need more context:

MISCONCEPTION: Ronald Reagan freed the American hostages in Iran.

MORE ACCURATE: Carter and his administration negotiated their release, but Tehran wouldn’t free them until after Reagan’s inauguration on Jan. 20, 1981."

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 02, 2023 08:34 PM (63Dwl)

273 239 more.

Paul's cavalier treatment of safeing and keeping track of his firearms is just more evidence of his sloppy behavior.

I think his murder had something to do with Mallory Beech's death. I have no evidence, but imagine? Your beautiful friend or relative was killed in a boating accident by a careless playboy, and two years later there are no criminal charges. Maybe two or more people decided to kill him, but unfortunately had to kill Maggie when she witnessed the murder?

One Shotgun murder, One Rifle murder. Two guns. Neither was found. Neither was the bloody clothing.

Posted by: rd at March 02, 2023 08:34 PM (Z32m1)

274 Must be a conservative, conservative murderer. A Democrat would just keep killing.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at March 02, 2023 08:35 PM (lqRlW)

275 Are you sure oxys contain ibuprofen? I think vicodin has tylenol.
Posted by: Mentholated Smooth-Drawing gp at March 02, 2023 08:28 PM (MvF+J)

Oxycodone can come both ways.

Posted by: polynikes at March 02, 2023 08:35 PM (Oivbi)

276 >> Alec was a thieving, lying scumbag personal injury lawyer that stole millions from his own clients. But I do not think he killed his own wife and his (drunken, ne'er do well, idiot) son.

He lied about not being at his land when the murders occurred. I think he helped cover something up at least.
Like I said up thread, you don't spend 50k a month on drugs without knowing somebody who is a drug trafficker. Hell, they prolly party together.
Seems to me this family has been involved for a while with The Underbelly of Dixie WASPs.
There is much more to this that won't get invested because nobody in power in SC or the USA wants the law or anybody to start pulling on strings.

Posted by: Gooning Gary at March 02, 2023 08:35 PM (F24yq)

277 246 Can someone explain to me the point of Tylenol for anything ever?
Posted by: eleven at March 02, 2023 08:28 PM (iziT

YES! I despise tylenol, it has never done anything for me, sugar pills would be better. Aspirin is my analgesic of first resort, but I have noted that for joints, muscles, and inflammation, ibuprofen is very effective.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 02, 2023 08:35 PM (r46W7)

278
They have both tylenol and non-tylenol versions. At one time, the acetaminophen containing formulations were a lower schedule, like Sch. 3, instead of 2.

So, it makes sense the pure opioid versions would be much more expensive.

You are not going to maintain a high dose addiction with the APAP formulations without destroying your liver.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz) at March 02, 2023 08:35 PM (Mzdiz)

279 They never found the rifle or the shotgun. No one could locate the murder weapons. Why would Alec use two different weapons, and how did he get rid of them. On Star proved he went no where except to his mothers house and back that night. No stops. No detours.

Where did the guns and bloody clothes go?
Posted by: rd at March 02, 2023 08:27 PM (Z32m1)

Sounds to me like he had The Perfect Crime all figured out, but for a couple of loose ends. All On Star can prove is the vehicle didn't go any place it should not have. But the perp might have used another vehicle to dispose of the weapons and the bloody coveralls. Or a confederate.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 02, 2023 08:36 PM (tkR6S)

280 The last line in the article I read about Ford applying for the patent technology that lets vehicles repossess themselves.

And if repossession costs more than the vehicle is worth, it could drive itself to a junkyard.

Posted by: old chick at March 02, 2023 08:36 PM (sOete)

281 "If you think he's innocent, then who did it?"

That's a clincher in prosecution closing argument. Justice for all occasions.

Posted by: Mentholated Smooth-Drawing gp at March 02, 2023 08:36 PM (MvF+J)

282
haha, Ace isn't giving you stupid cute animals, tonight!

Posted by: I See Dead People at March 02, 2023 08:36 PM (G/QLV)

283 225 The Jimmy Carter news is coming any day now.

Curious to see what kind of coverage the Democrats give him.

Posted by: eleven at March 02, 2023 08:21 PM (iziT

I fear The Junta will hold a televised memorial service, separate from the church funeral, that will be scripted to be another Paul Wellstone memorial event.

Posted by: Gref at March 02, 2023 08:36 PM (AMIL/)

284 Sometimes just sometimes the murder weapons are never found but the person is guilty and convicted.

Sometimes there is never a body.

Posted by: mpfs , In a permanent state of confusion at March 02, 2023 08:37 PM (Q9/40)

285 268
Feinstein will be dead before Monday.
Posted by: I See Dead People at March 02, 2023 08:32 PM (G/QLV)

promises, promises...

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 02, 2023 08:37 PM (r46W7)

286 I am partly glad that I am so out of touch I don't know who the heck this is about, but also concerned that I'm so out of touch I don't really know much of what's going on in the world

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 02, 2023 08:37 PM (0hOvj)

287 Regardless of what you think I'm soberish

Posted by: N. Lurker at March 02, 2023 08:37 PM (eGTCV)

288 I watched most of the trial. Don't think it should have been a guilty verdict. Cops fucked up the entire investigation. And investigator lied to the grand jury.

Posted by: buzzion at March 02, 2023 08:37 PM (aRLgQ)

289 IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE THE SCUTTLEBUTT ON THE GOLF COURSES IN SOUTH CAROLINA WAS THAT HE WAS GOING TO BE FOUND NOT GUILTY.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at March 02, 2023 08:37 PM (TXFi7)

290 281 "If you think he's innocent, then who did it?"

That's a clincher in prosecution closing argument. Justice for all occasions.
Posted by: Mentholated Smooth-Drawing gp at March 02, 2023 08:36 PM (MvF+J)

That is not the job of the jury. Just because they are presented with a dude. Like Ben Shapiro, it is not a binary choice that if he did not do it- then no one did.

Sounds like fuckery all around.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 02, 2023 08:38 PM (CsVWE)

291 "Feinstein will be dead before Monday."

I hear that some cases of shingles can make one wish one was dead. Mine was mild.

Posted by: Mentholated Smooth-Drawing gp at March 02, 2023 08:38 PM (MvF+J)

292 I think his murder had something to do with Mallory Beech's death. I have no evidence, but imagine? Your beautiful friend or relative was killed in a boating accident by a careless playboy, and two years later there are no criminal charges.

There was a wrongful/negligent death suit filed...Alex's shady finances were gonna be discovered.

Posted by: BignJames at March 02, 2023 08:39 PM (AwYPR)

293 Just my opinion but it seems your standard is any doubt not reasonable doubt.

Posted by: polynikes at March 02, 2023 08:39 PM (Oivbi)

294 Feinstein will be dead before Monday.

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The important thing is to remember that she doesn't want you to Ms. her.

Posted by: $15 is now the same value as the $7.25 minimum wage under Trump at March 02, 2023 08:39 PM (XSoJN)

295 290 I was joking.

Posted by: Mentholated Smooth-Drawing gp at March 02, 2023 08:40 PM (MvF+J)

296 He lost two .300 Blackout rifles? How does that happen except for snarky comments at aos.
Posted by: polynikes

Spoiled, sloppy, uncaring kid. The kind that runs into a bridge pier while driving a boat at high speed in the middle of the night while driving drunk. And kills a beautiful young woman.

The best part? Replace the original lower with a new one, and the rifle is pretty much untraceable, and someone has a wonderful night vision scope too.

Posted by: rd at March 02, 2023 08:40 PM (Z32m1)

297 My dad did testify in cases where the weapons were never found.

For the most part they were all found guilty.

Posted by: mpfs , In a permanent state of confusion at March 02, 2023 08:40 PM (Q9/40)

298 We need Raylen Givens down there investigating.

Posted by: Gooning Gary at March 02, 2023 08:40 PM (F24yq)

299 I am partly glad that I am so out of touch I don't know who the heck this is about, but also concerned that I'm so out of touch I don't really know much of what's going on in the world
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

Same old thing. Greed, lust, gluttony, pride, envy, sloth, wrath.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 02, 2023 08:40 PM (FVME7)

300

Former President Donald Trump can be sued by injured Capitol Police officers and Democratic lawmakers over the Jan. 6, 2021, insurrection at the U.S. Capitol, the Justice Department said Thursday in a federal court case testing Trump's legal vulnerability for his speech before the riot.

In court papers, the Justice Department urged a federal appeals court in Washington to allow the lawsuits to move forward, writing that “no part of a President’s official responsibilities includes the incitement of imminent private violence."

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 02, 2023 08:41 PM (63Dwl)

301 Well, if they're really sneaky, it occurs to me that a great way to obtain True Southern Justice aka reciprocity against a scumbag lawyer who exploited the system to protect the girl's killer would be to arrange things so that the weight of said system crashes down on the scumbag lawyer. Not saying that's what happens--I have zero knowledge of any of this beyond Ace's summary--but that too would be worth considering.
Posted by: CppThis at March 02, 2023 08:23 PM (PZvjL)

I thought about that, and I thought that would be a delightful, if impossible to prove, twist. Paul richly deserves whatever he gets.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 02, 2023 08:41 PM (r46W7)

302 293 Just my opinion but it seems your standard is any doubt not reasonable doubt.
Posted by: polynikes at March 02, 2023 08:39 PM (Oivbi)

Lack of a murder weapon or anything that actually places his hand on the trigger- like blood evidence- is kind of a head scratcher.

I dunno. I have no experience or info on this trial until it was explained by boobs last post.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 02, 2023 08:41 PM (CsVWE)

303 "Can someone explain to me the point of Tylenol for anything ever?"

pain relief, easier on the stomach? Docs will recommend taking ibuprofen and acetaminophen together for best pain relief. But not continuously.

Posted by: illiniwek at March 02, 2023 08:41 PM (Cus5s)

304 If Harry and I don't have front row seats at the Carter funeral: Raysis.

Posted by: Meghan Markle at March 02, 2023 08:41 PM (sWM8x)

305 Asshole Alex is guilty....yet Merrick Garland walks the Earth a free man.

There is no "justice" in America.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 02, 2023 08:41 PM (R/m4+)

306 That is not the job of the jury. Just because they are presented with a dude. Like Ben Shapiro, it is not a binary choice that if he did not do it- then no one did.

Its not the job of the jury to find another suspect, but it is the job of the jury to examine the evidence, and if there's no one else that the evidence points to, then the conclusion seems clear.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 02, 2023 08:42 PM (0hOvj)

307 I fear The Junta will hold a televised memorial service, separate from the church funeral, that will be scripted to be another Paul Wellstone memorial event.
Posted by: Gref at March 02, 2023 08:36 PM (AMIL/)

Am I wrong for hoping it turns out to be as much of a public success for the crowds as the Khomeni funeral?

Posted by: Kindltot at March 02, 2023 08:42 PM (xhaym)

308 Or a confederate.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 02, 2023 08:36 PM (tkR6S)

There was the rather comical event of him having been shot in the head by somebody when he was on the side of the road changing a tire. Says some guy just up and shot him.

Evidence suggests he shot himself. Others pointed to his funny friend, the one he made major payments to, around the time of his wife and son's murders. Someone interviewed the friend, and asked if he was the one who shot Alec. The guy basically said "if I'd have shot him, he'd be dead."

Posted by: BurtTC at March 02, 2023 08:42 PM (M2qSa)

309 306 I was joking.

Posted by: Mentholated Smooth-Drawing gp at March 02, 2023 08:42 PM (MvF+J)

310 Yay nT Gcq egg ompewaaion i've vwwn drinking,

Posted by: N. Lurker at March 02, 2023 08:43 PM (eGTCV)

311 And, by the way, I’m from this area. Southern Gothic exists, still. But Murdaugh wasn’t being tried for drug addiction, nor for cheating clients. He may have killed his wife and son. Cheering that a jerk “went down” is idiocy for those who’d appreciate the rule of law. Murdaugh was tried for murder and nothing else. The only relevant question is, did he commit the murders he’s accused of. He may well have done, but SC brought a case without hard evidence.

Posted by: LadyS at March 02, 2023 08:43 PM (VGiJY)

312 Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 02, 2023 08:41 PM (CsVWE)

The elephant in the room no one talks about is the Snapchat video.

Posted by: polynikes at March 02, 2023 08:43 PM (Oivbi)

313
Its not the job of the jury to find another suspect, but it is the job of the jury to examine the evidence, and if there's no one else that the evidence points to, then the conclusion seems clear.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

Exactly.

Posted by: mpfs , In a permanent state of confusion at March 02, 2023 08:43 PM (Q9/40)

314 Polynikes,

I did.

That royally screwed him.

Posted by: mpfs , In a permanent state of confusion at March 02, 2023 08:44 PM (Q9/40)

315 > Democratic Maryland Mayor Arrested On 56 Child Pornography Charges
_____________

Word on the street is that Wojahn was "groomed" for the job by none other than Pete (I like to be trained) Buttplugger.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 02, 2023 08:44 PM (Q4IgG)

316 310 Yay nT Gcq egg ompewaaion i've vwwn drinking,
Posted by: N. Lurker at March 02, 2023 08:43 PM (eGTCV)

Never would have guessed.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 02, 2023 08:44 PM (CsVWE)

317 Lack of a murder weapon or anything that actually places his hand on the trigger- like blood evidence- is kind of a head scratcher.

I dunno. I have no experience or info on this trial until it was explained by boobs last post.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 02, 2023 08:41 PM (CsVWE)

There is drone footage some dude took, showing the Murdaugh's (and/or compatriots of theirs) removing guns from the house after the murders.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 02, 2023 08:44 PM (M2qSa)

318 dude had a 60 oxy a day habit...not his wayward son...Him.

Posted by: birddog at March 02, 2023 08:45 PM (uAI4S)

319 Mary Morgan's snow white shoulders, set off by jet-black straps, on Timcast.

Posted by: Mentholated Smooth-Drawing gp at March 02, 2023 08:45 PM (MvF+J)

320 I apolovuaw

Posted by: N. Lurker at March 02, 2023 08:45 PM (eGTCV)

321 The elephant in the room no one talks about is the Snapchat video.
Posted by: polynikes at March 02, 2023 08:43 PM (Oivbi)

Yup. He was there. Period.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 02, 2023 08:45 PM (M2qSa)

322 I think his murder had something to do with Mallory Beech's death. I have no evidence, but imagine? Your beautiful friend or relative was killed in a boating accident by a careless playboy, and two years later there are no criminal charges.

There was a wrongful/negligent death suit filed...Alex's shady finances were gonna be discovered.
Posted by: BignJames at March 02, 2023 08:39 PM (AwYPR)

================
Which was in a civil suit. Alec could have stretched that discovery out for months if not years. His dying father was admitted into the hospital for the last time the morning before the murders. That alone would have bought him atleast a month or two.

The double murder definitely brought a huge spotlight to his entire life, and likely accelerated his downfall.

Posted by: rd at March 02, 2023 08:45 PM (Z32m1)

323 nood

Posted by: Mentholated Smooth-Drawing gp at March 02, 2023 08:46 PM (MvF+J)

324 311 And, by the way, I’m from this area. Southern Gothic exists, still. But Murdaugh wasn’t being tried for drug addiction, nor for cheating clients. He may have killed his wife and son. Cheering that a jerk “went down” is idiocy for those who’d appreciate the rule of law. Murdaugh was tried for murder and nothing else. The only relevant question is, did he commit the murders he’s accused of. He may well have done, but SC brought a case without hard evidence.
Posted by: LadyS at March 02, 2023 08:43 PM (VGiJY)

And ignored other evidence. Like apparently there was a hair found in the wife's hand that was never tested.

Posted by: buzzion at March 02, 2023 08:46 PM (aRLgQ)

325 "If you think he's innocent, then who did it?"

That's a clincher in prosecution closing argument. Justice for all occasions.

Seems like the kind of thing a fair judge should dickpunch a DA for. It's not the jury's job to know who did it, only to decide whether or not the state proved that the defendant did it. "If not him, then who?" is an anti-constitutional bullsh*t argument.

Posted by: Oddbob at March 02, 2023 08:46 PM (nfrXX)

326 He may well have done, but SC brought a case without hard evidence.
Posted by: LadyS at March 02, 2023 08:43 PM (VGiJY)

Many murderers are convicted on circumstantial evidence and their ill-advised solo testimony. My brother convicted a killer in the same scenario a decade go when he was on a jury. Said he was in a not guilty train of thought til he heard the guy and saw all the lies get unearthed and refuted. And yeah, his jury was quick, too.

If you ask most defense attorneys, the biggest mistake the ones who do it make is to get on the stand and think they'll talk their way out of it. That almost always loses when you did do it...and you sink your own defense attorneys closing statement b/c you are what the jury remembers...

Posted by: Nova Local at March 02, 2023 08:46 PM (exHjb)

327 325 I was joking.

Posted by: Mentholated Smooth-Drawing gp at March 02, 2023 08:47 PM (MvF+J)

328 Honest to God, I never heard so much testimony about wild pig hunting.

Posted by: mpfs

"Hog Night" was wildly popular during the '70s at The Large Midwestern University.

Posted by: Tonypete at March 02, 2023 08:47 PM (qoGsy)

329 FIRST with
"Well, good."

Anticipatory side note: Yes of course South Carolina has the death penalty, and since the boycott of humane execution drugs, the choice is between the electric chair and firing squad. No mention yet of "steel duck shot," a factor in the trial evidence. There is a chance that tomorrow the jury's recommendation may be expressed.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at March 02, 2023 08:47 PM (jYCXf)

330 The jury weighed the evidence it had and made a decision.

That is the rule of law.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at March 02, 2023 08:47 PM (TXFi7)

331 Novalocal, nothing you wrote at 326 refutes what I wrote about this trial.

Posted by: LadyS at March 02, 2023 08:48 PM (VGiJY)

332 Just my opinion but it seems your standard is any doubt not reasonable doubt.
Posted by: polynikes at March 02, 2023 08:39 PM (Oivbi)

From the guy the bemoaned the anniversary of Waco ? Pretty sure you are Juror One in any case the FBI really wants to win.

Posted by: Just The Way It Is at March 02, 2023 08:48 PM (9rMHA)

333 321 The elephant in the room no one talks about is the Snapchat video.
Posted by: polynikes at March 02, 2023 08:43 PM (Oivbi)

Yup. He was there. Period.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 02, 2023 08:45 PM (M2qSa)

He was there and he lied about that. Now the problem becomes the timeline of him being able to shoot them, get cleaned, up and go to his mother's house. Property apparently had a side road that was close to the kennels that would have been perfect for someone to approach wait for Murdaugh to leave and then plug the son, and then the wife comes in and they have to shoot her too.

Posted by: buzzion at March 02, 2023 08:49 PM (aRLgQ)

334 Yeah. The classic legal advice is "Do not allow yourself to be cross-examined."

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at March 02, 2023 08:49 PM (TXFi7)

335 @306

>>Its not the job of the jury to find another suspect, but it is the job of the jury to examine the evidence, and if there's no one else that the evidence points to, then the conclusion seems clear.

As I mentioned above, everything pretty much hinged on the recording of Murdaugh at the scene of of the crime shortly before the murders, which he testified that he was not at.

So, we can speculate all we want about who done it, but it more than likely was Murdaugh who killed his wife and son, and that's what the jury found.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 02, 2023 08:49 PM (up/3i)

336 Remember...the lead investigator was admitted on the stand that he lied to the grand jury to get the indictment.

Posted by: redchief at March 02, 2023 08:50 PM (oSVdS)

337 Posted by: LadyS at March 02, 2023 08:43 PM (VGiJY)

Whoa. Just because you think there was reasonable doubt doesn't make it so. To say people who think the evidence presented both circumstantial and objective and the lies in his testimony was enough to convict ignored the rule of law is ridiculous.

Posted by: polynikes at March 02, 2023 08:50 PM (Oivbi)

338 So, we can speculate all we want about who done it, but it more than likely was Murdaugh who killed his wife and son, and that's what the jury found.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 02, 2023 08:49 PM (up/3i)

Can you explain the wife's cell phone?

Posted by: buzzion at March 02, 2023 08:51 PM (aRLgQ)

339
There is drone footage some dude took, showing the Murdaugh's (and/or compatriots of theirs) removing guns from the house after the murders.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 02, 2023 08:44 PM (M2qSa)

================

The only people that removed guns from Murdaugh's house was SLED (the cops). They removed every 12 gauge and 300 Black out Rifle, and all the 12 gauge ammo and 300 Blackout ammo from his house that very night and the next day.

If that drone video existed, why wasn't it admitted into evidence, just like all the drone video was entered into evidence in the Kyle Rittenhouse trial?

Lots of rumors, lies and BS surrounding this trial. Just like the wrong BS that Kyle Rittenhouse shot three black dudes in Wisconsin. (they were all white)

Posted by: rd at March 02, 2023 08:52 PM (Z32m1)

340 Where did the guns and bloody clothes go?
Posted by: rd at March 02, 2023 08:27 PM (Z32m1)

Sounds to me like he had The Perfect Crime all figured out, but for a couple of loose ends. All On Star can prove is the vehicle didn't go any place it should not have. But the perp might have used another vehicle to dispose of the weapons and the bloody coveralls. Or a confederate.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 02, 2023 08:36 PM (tkR6S)

I've been wondering for the last week if Murdaugh paid someone to actually pull the triggers using guns and ammo Alex gave him. That person could have been hiding in the woods by the kennel, with the guns, and come out when Alex gave him a signal.

Then he gets somehow gets out of Dodge still wearing the bloody clothes. This fills-in some of the holes in the evidence story, but raises a lot more. We'll never know how it went down unless Murdaugh confesses with all the details. Re: using two guns - Murdaugh may have known that one shooter using two long guns for a fast double murder is rare as hell. So he used two guns to throw off the cops.

Posted by: Gref at March 02, 2023 08:52 PM (AMIL/)

341 Seropis;uj I'm reAllu not that drunk

Posted by: N. Lurker at March 02, 2023 08:52 PM (eGTCV)

342 Whatever, polynikes. I hope justice has been done. I have questions, though, and you haven’t helped answer any of them.

Posted by: LadyS at March 02, 2023 08:52 PM (VGiJY)

343 So, we can speculate all we want about who done it, but it more than likely was Murdaugh who killed his wife and son, and that's what the jury found.

Convicted on "more than likely" is why we see dudes walking after ten, twenty, or more years.

This cat was convicted on grounds of being a known asshole. Pure and simple.

Posted by: Just The Way It Is at March 02, 2023 08:52 PM (9rMHA)

344 I've been watching the trial via Rekieta and Good Lawgic. The state did a hideous job IMO. They said NOTHING to convince me he murdered his wife and son. All the state harped on was financial crimes. Alex is a POS and does deserve prison, but I came away from the trial unconvinced he murdered his family.

Posted by: TB24601 at March 02, 2023 08:53 PM (qvkC7)

345 carter's greatest achievement was not fukcing up the peace deal between menachem begin and anwar sadat, although as I recall he tried (no, let's bring in the soviets and the rest of the middle east, too)

Posted by: gnats local 678 at March 02, 2023 08:54 PM (kFrCu)

346 It's worth noting that this is the direction that jury trials are going to go for normal folks, too. Assuming they're not already.

I'm guessing it's exactly how the January 6th trials work. And I'm betting a middle class white guy on a stand with a... diverse jury can be fairly easily manipulated into the previously mentioned "Well, he might not have done this, but you know he deserves it for something!!!"

Posted by: $15 is now the same value as the $7.25 minimum wage under Trump at March 02, 2023 08:55 PM (XSoJN)

347 Perhaps he read "The Lincoln Lawyer" and used little flying machines (the word escapes me) to take the evidence away?

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at March 02, 2023 08:55 PM (TXFi7)

348 Drones!

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at March 02, 2023 08:55 PM (TXFi7)

349 murdaugh must be guilty because trump had an alibi

Posted by: gnats local 678 at March 02, 2023 08:56 PM (kFrCu)

350 @338

>>Can you explain the wife's cell phone?

No.

I've paid literally not attention to this trial and am just reading about it for the first time after the verdict.

Boiled down to it's essence, it's not a very complicated case, you got two dead people, a person on trial for their murder and a jury empaneled to deliberate on his guilt or innocence.

They found him guilty, I have no reason not to trust their verdict.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 02, 2023 08:56 PM (up/3i)

351 Those small town and rural South Carolina folks on the jury likely have a lot of experience that lets them spot a bald-faced liar a mile away
Posted by: Gref at March 02, 2023 08:31 PM (AMIL/)
I am from a miniscule north Georgia "town" far more rural than Walterboro SC ever thought about being, and I see your point, but most of us are also capable of understanding jury instructions and reasonable doubt.
They say Murdaugh killed his own wife and son, the son with two shots from a gawt-damned shotgun all but point blank, then shot his wife 5 times with 300 Blackout, cleaned himself completely clean of the results of that, got in the side by side and then his truck without getting any blood or brains or hairs in either vehicle, drove to his mom's house where the caretaker said he was definitely not covered in blood, then come back home, where no blood or brain matter or skull fragments were found anywhere, including in any drain in the house.
There was a drop of Maggie's blood on the steering wheel, which could be explained by the fact that Murdaugh said he took both their pulses when he found them. He's a liar, I think he likely did it, but I'd have still acquitted.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at March 02, 2023 08:56 PM (buF98)

352 Whoa. Just because you think there was reasonable doubt doesn't make it so. To say people who think the evidence presented both circumstantial and objective and the lies in his testimony was enough to convict ignored the rule of law is ridiculous.

Shorter ... a jury can never get it wrong. Believe all juries. Trust the process.

Posted by: Just The Way It Is at March 02, 2023 08:56 PM (9rMHA)

353 The dad and older brother seemed totally upset about the deaths in their family btw.

Posted by: Gooning Gary at March 02, 2023 08:59 PM (F24yq)

354 anyway, i am more interested in knowing who ran over that poor squirrel by the library than if murdough was guilty. i mean, it was way over the other side of county road 22 and had nothing to do with the general store opening late last thursday.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at March 02, 2023 09:00 PM (kFrCu)

355 They found him guilty, I have no reason not to trust their verdict.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 02, 2023 08:56 PM (up/3i)

Because juries never get the verdict wrong?

Posted by: buzzion at March 02, 2023 09:00 PM (aRLgQ)

356 Horde, this family was no different than the local criminal gang running the town. It happens too often and it prolly happened here.

Posted by: Gooning Gary at March 02, 2023 09:04 PM (F24yq)

357 Also think there was unidentified male DNA under Maggie's nails, and she had just had a manicure that day. Not a lot of DNA at all, but again.... reasonable doubt.

At least for me.

I am all for scum being put away, but if there are reasonable explanations, all y'all supposed to give the defendant the benefit of the doubt. Keeps all our civil rights protected.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at March 02, 2023 09:05 PM (buF98)

358 355. Yeah, that never happens, and we should never question anything about “the settled sentence.”
Sigh.

Posted by: LadyS at March 02, 2023 09:07 PM (VGiJY)

359 357 Also think there was unidentified male DNA under Maggie's nails, and she had just had a manicure that day. Not a lot of DNA at all, but again.... reasonable doubt.

At least for me.

I am all for scum being put away, but if there are reasonable explanations, all y'all supposed to give the defendant the benefit of the doubt. Keeps all our civil rights protected.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at March 02, 2023 09:05 PM (buF9

And a possible hair that was never tested. And her cell phone and his having different step counts. Her cell phone being taken and ditched but the son's not.

Posted by: buzzion at March 02, 2023 09:07 PM (aRLgQ)

360 They found him guilty, I have no reason not to trust their verdict.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 02, 2023 08:56 PM (up/3i)

Because juries never get the verdict wrong?
Posted by: buzzion at March 02, 2023 09:00 PM (aRLgQ)

Because all's well that ends well, is what he's saying.

Posted by: Just The Way It Is at March 02, 2023 09:10 PM (9rMHA)

361 Are they going to end McCain's funeral for Fiendsteen's?

Posted by: torabora at March 02, 2023 09:15 PM (nWEBq)

362 There's so many rivers and creeks around there, heck the Atlantic Ocean can be reached pretty quick. The horde knows the chemistry between gubs and water.

Posted by: Eromero at March 02, 2023 09:15 PM (MF3yS)

363 And a possible hair that was never tested. And her cell phone and his having different step counts. Her cell phone being taken and ditched but the son's not.

Posted by: buzzion at March 02, 2023 09:07 PM (aRLgQ)

He may have had difficulty thinking totally clearly after doing the shootings, and missed or forked-up some of the steps in his plan for the perfect crime.

Posted by: Gref at March 02, 2023 09:21 PM (AMIL/)

364 Late to the game, somebody posted this on Instapundit’s comments:

He was a Democrat. His attorney was Dick Harpootlian who has been in the past the head of the South Carolina Democratic Party. I’m sure that he’s best buds with Joe Biden. Biden appointed Harpootlian’s wife to ambassador to Slovenia.

————-

GUILTY

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at March 02, 2023 10:25 PM (cMXNt)

365 Like I said before...Murdaugh should get the death penalty.

Simple

Posted by: Nightwatch at March 02, 2023 10:43 PM (J00IM)

366 And...I'm out.

Posted by: Nightwatch at March 02, 2023 10:50 PM (J00IM)

367 Wow, I really didn't need to see that guy. Way to harsh my mellow, dude

Posted by: Kimo Loka at March 03, 2023 01:53 AM (ZO1EW)

368 First day after 3am all week

Posted by: Skip at March 03, 2023 03:48 AM (xhxe8)

369 81
Is Demonic Possession considered a legitimate motive?

He should have tried the Flip "Geraldine" Wilson excuse, "The Devil made me do it".

BTW OJ still has a personable voice. And he was a better actor.

Posted by: MachiasPrivateer at March 03, 2023 07:12 AM (EMi53)

370 The Netflix special has a news reporter who used a drove to record the house after getting a tip that a warrant was being served. He captured family members (older son, brother?) taking guns out of the house.

If you were wondering where the guns went (the blackout 300 and the shotgun most likely)

Posted by: Reality Man at March 03, 2023 07:57 AM (xOtbC)

371 forgot to mention above, he had a drone over the house, and captured family members removing guns.

Posted by: Reality Man at March 03, 2023 08:32 AM (XTMvj)

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