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Evil Rat Christopher Wray Admits FBI Has Long Believed Covid 19 Was Fashioned in Chinese Lab; Also Says China Trying to "Thwart and Obfuscate" the Investigation Into Covid Origins

The Wall Street Journal:

WASHINGTON--FBI Director Christopher Wray said Tuesday that the Covid pandemic was probably the result of a laboratory leak in China, providing the first public confirmation of the bureau's classified judgment of how the virus that led to the deaths of nearly seven million people worldwide first emerged.

"The FBI has for quite some time now assessed that the origins of the pandemic are most likely a potential lab incident in Wuhan," Mr. Wray told Fox News. "Here you are talking about a potential leak from a Chinese government-controlled lab."

Mr. Wray added that the Chinese government has been trying to "thwart and obfuscate" the investigation that the Federal Bureau of Investigation, other parts of the U.S. government and foreign partners have been carrying out into the origin of the pandemic, but that the bureau's work continues.

The Wall Street Journal reported Sunday that the FBI had come to the conclusion with "moderate confidence" in 2021 that the Covid-19 pandemic was likely the result of an accidental lab leak and still holds to this view.

The U.S. Department of Energy, the Journal also reported, now also judges the pandemic was most likely the result of an unintended lab leak. The Energy Department reached that assessment with "low confidence" as a result of new intelligence and it represents a shift from its previous position in 2021 which was undecided.

The FBI and Energy Department's assessments are included in a classified report that was provided to the White House and some lawmakers earlier this year.

Note the end of this sentence:


Four other intelligence agencies that officials haven't named and the National Intelligence Council, which conducts long-term strategic analysis, still favor the theory that the virus emerged when it leapt from an animal to a human, though with "low confidence."

As John Sexton notes, all of the non-scientists who are not staying in their lanes, all of the late night unfunny clowns, all of the media "journalist" televangelists for the Progressive Technocratic God-State, were furiously pushing back against the DOE's finding that the virus was created in the lab, noting that this finding was only made with "low confidence."

Why, they all said, speaking from the same script, four other agencies found that the virus arose from zoonotic transfer, natural evolution!

What they failed to point out, Sexton noted, was that these agencies' confidence level in that finding was also... "low confidence."

Isn't that awfully funny? That they would stress the "low confidence" of a finding they don't like and then refuse the report the exact same "low confidence" of a finding they do like?

They also overlooked the FBI's already-disclosed report that the virus was created in a lab, made with "moderate confidence."

Remember, they're the media: And they only tell the truth.

You believe that, don't you? Don't you, imbecile?

Deborah Birx seems altogether unsurprised at the finding that China leaked covid from its virus-creation lab, and assumes this is what happened, with no caveats and no "low confidence" about it.

COLLINS: "Do you think that it would be helpful if they declassified the new intelligence that is around this that has caused the DOE to change its assessment?"

BIRX: "You know, I think it's important that a group gets together of scientists, particular molecular virologists, and moves past all of the politics and say, 'What do we really know? What do we know now about this virus, how it mutates, how it spreads through humans? What do we know that China was doing?' And it makes total sense that China was working on a vaccine and growing these -- growing these viruses in tissue culture. That changes the virus over time. That's what you do in the laboratory. And so, it makes sense. And I think really getting people to get -- I know we are never going to get the data from China. China has not been transparent. We saw in that their recent outbreak.

It's almost as if, among the Technocratic Non-Elite, it has long been common knowledge and beyond any real doubt that covid-19 leaked from the Wuhan lab. One could almost be forgiven for suspecting that that that this was yet another Noble Lie that our Priests of Permissible Knowledge created for us, telling us that it sprung like a miracle from nature, from a bat that somehow migrated 1200 miles to join its very fellows who had been captured from the same caves and then brought by truck or plane to the Wuhan Bat Respiratory Virus Lab, and at the Wuhan wet-market, where scientists from the Wuhan Bat Respiratory Virus Lab bought meat on their way home from a day of mutating bat respiratory viruses, there discharged their lethal viral loads upon a pangolin to further mutate.


Posted by: Ace at 03:51 PM




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1 Yeah.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 01, 2023 03:51 PM (yQpMk)

2 Only now?
Wray seems a little slow on the uptake to only have come to this conclusion now.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at March 01, 2023 03:51 PM (FUBfX)

3 Hey! Don't associate us with that asshole Wray.

We have standards ya know.

Posted by: Evil Rats Everywhere and The Clintons at March 01, 2023 03:52 PM (GE8Ol)

4 So if I tell the FBI the opposite of the truth and add "with low confidence" I don't get charged?

Posted by: Zek at March 01, 2023 03:52 PM (5FPX4)

5 "Proof that Chris Wray and the FBI is in Trump's pocket and out to get Biden."
-DU

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 01, 2023 03:52 PM (LvTSG)

6 2 Only now?
Wray seems a little slow on the uptake to only have come to this conclusion now.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at March 01, 2023 03:51 PM (FUBfX)

Trump is gone, and he was a Trump appointee so this is right on time.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at March 01, 2023 03:53 PM (N39Ws)

7 I wish all journalists interviewing Wray would say "Chy-NAH" whenever they ask about the WuFlu.

Posted by: Coki at March 01, 2023 03:53 PM (38JP5)

8 I want a National Divorce.
And the kids. And the house and the money.

Posted by: Zek at March 01, 2023 03:53 PM (5FPX4)

9 Yet the fib lied to America for over 2 years about the origins of covid.


Why are they changing their story now?

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 01, 2023 03:54 PM (uNylN)

10 4 So if I tell the FBI the opposite of the truth and add "with low confidence" I don't get charged?
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Stick with, 'I do not recollect.' Always a winner.

Posted by: Puddinhead at March 01, 2023 03:54 PM (8Sqzu)

11 The Party is turning on China, methinks.

There has been a lot of weird activity in China policy since Biden took office, but most of it has been net-negative for the mainland. Stuff like this is *not* what I would expect for a China-owned Party.

Either the checks aren't clearing or the Party has other concerns now, and sees different winds blowing.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 01, 2023 03:54 PM (t0OGg)

12 The Incredible Bat Journey.

Posted by: Penguin Publishing at March 01, 2023 03:54 PM (ufFY8)

13 I have "low confidence" in the last Presidential election.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 01, 2023 03:54 PM (UuD2k)

14 Imma going to wait until Harry weighs in on his livestream to pass judgement.

Posted by: Minnfidel at March 01, 2023 03:54 PM (GwxCX)

15 Is there one "f" or two in lying muthafu*ka?

Posted by: Diogenes at March 01, 2023 03:54 PM (anj39)

16 Americans also have "low confidence" in FBI, etc.

Posted by: Coki at March 01, 2023 03:55 PM (38JP5)

17 What is it that they're lying about *today* but will come clean 3 years from now?

Posted by: Hands at March 01, 2023 03:55 PM (786Ro)

18 Stick with, 'I do not recollect.' Always a winner.
Posted by: Puddinhead at March 01, 2023 03:54 PM (8Sqzu)

I can neither confirm nor deny…

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at March 01, 2023 03:55 PM (9mfKN)

19 11 Either the checks aren't clearing or the Party has other concerns now, and sees different winds blowing.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 01, 2023 03:54 PM (t0OGg)

========

Or the Party is getting too big for its britches. They're in power for themselves, not the people who helped get them there.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 01, 2023 03:55 PM (LvTSG)

20 "Stick with, 'I do not recollect.' Always a winner."
Mm. Not so sure about that.

Posted by: Gen Flynn at March 01, 2023 03:55 PM (5FPX4)

21 Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against Ukraine, or in adhering to Ukraine's Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.

Posted by: Constitution 2.0 at March 01, 2023 03:55 PM (krQz2)

22 Eat shit, Birx.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 01, 2023 03:55 PM (Xrfse)

23 The FIB, I mean if you can't trust them, oh wait, I don't.

Posted by: Minnfidel at March 01, 2023 03:55 PM (GwxCX)

24 Clearly Mr. Wray has swerved out of his lane and needs some late night comedians to set him aright.

Posted by: McLurkerson at March 01, 2023 03:56 PM (wNDOJ)

25 I think I'm going to head out and buy me some of that toe nail fungus stuff. Advertising works.

Posted by: N.Lurker at March 01, 2023 03:56 PM (eGTCV)

26 "The FBI has for quite some time now assessed that the origins of the pandemic are most likely a potential lab incident in Wuhan," Mr. Wray told Fox News. "Here you are talking about a potential leak from a Chinese government-controlled lab."

Mr. Wray added that the Chinese government has been trying to "thwart and obfuscate" the investigation that the Federal Bureau of Investigation, other parts of the U.S. government and foreign partners have been carrying out into the origin of the pandemic, but that the bureau's work continues.

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Odd how there was no talk of lab leaks or Red Chinese obstruction two years ago. Or even last year. I remember anyone who asked those questions being pilloried as a xenophobic, racist conspiracy theorist.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 01, 2023 03:56 PM (t0OGg)

27 I hope the next Republican President nukes the shit outta a dozen deserving departments.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at March 01, 2023 03:57 PM (pohLc)

28 Well, the Covidians still have Colbert in their corner.

Perhaps another dance number from the dancing pricks, er syringes is order. Maybe a spin-off program only consisting of them. That should keep the clapping seals distracted.

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at March 01, 2023 03:57 PM (TNyrE)

29 I trust them so much that I regularly call them the FIB.

And their agents are FIB-bers.

Posted by: Axeman at March 01, 2023 03:57 PM (krQz2)

30 Paging a Mr. Steven Colbert to the white courtesy phone.

Posted by: Minnfidel at March 01, 2023 03:57 PM (GwxCX)

31 Either the checks aren't clearing or the Party has other concerns now, and sees different winds blowing.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 01, 2023 03:54 PM (t0OGg)

You'd certainly think so. The problem is, they're seriously provoking China (and KSA, to a lesser extent) at the same time NATO is going all-in on Russia. The Chinese are not going to tolerate a vassal like "Biden" trying to break their association, and goodness knows what the response will be.

Posted by: trev006 at March 01, 2023 03:57 PM (DTm0P)

32 I suspect a fair portion of the pushers of the zoonotic origin theory only did so because they think using the word "zoonotic" makes them look smaht.

Posted by: Hands at March 01, 2023 03:57 PM (786Ro)

33 Top. Men.

Posted by: Just sayin' at March 01, 2023 03:57 PM (SY/PV)

34 Stick with, 'I do not recollect.' Always a winner.
Posted by: Puddinhead at March 01, 2023 03:54 PM (8Sqzu)


My social media is in my personal capacity.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 01, 2023 03:58 PM (yQpMk)

35 "The FBI has for quite some time now assessed that the origins of the pandemic are most likely a potential lab incident in Wuhan," Mr. Wray told Fox News. "Here you are talking about a potential leak from a Chinese government-controlled lab."
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But...they didn't speak out when that was "debunked"?

Do they have pride or don't they?

What a bunch of tuckers.

Posted by: Axeman at March 01, 2023 03:58 PM (krQz2)

36 Being unfunny and dumb as one of the dumber rocks is not a good look.

Posted by: N.Lurker at March 01, 2023 03:58 PM (eGTCV)

37 Americans also have "low confidence" in FBI, etc.

Posted by: Coki at March 01, 2023 03:55 PM (38JP5)

Yeah, it is long known, the origin. The question then is "cui bono?"

The FBI cares not of its respectability, judging by its behavior.

Late-stage failing empire looking for an Emmanuel Goldstein for a daily two minutes of hate to rally the restless natives?

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 01, 2023 03:58 PM (PyOKD)

38 Occam's Razor

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 01, 2023 03:58 PM (Irn0L)

39 Stephen Colbert may not be much of a thinker, but at least he's super-funny.

Posted by: ace at March 01, 2023 03:58 PM (C1Zwz)

40 If we're going to finally go after the Chicoms over the lab origin, are they also going to go after the *Americans* who taught the Chinese about gof? And funded it after it was banned here?

Might just as well be called the Tarheel Flu.

Posted by: Hands at March 01, 2023 03:59 PM (786Ro)

41 Has an intrepid reporter asked Wray on camera whether IF it was a Wuhan lab leak, does it not follow that the Chicoms, thereafter, INTENTIONALLY let it spread to the rest of the world, while covering up the fact?

Or haven't they "investigated" that?

Posted by: Zek at March 01, 2023 03:59 PM (5FPX4)

42 Why doesn't Colbair call himself Stephane?

Posted by: N.Lurker at March 01, 2023 03:59 PM (eGTCV)

43 Ace> Evil Rat Christopher Wray Admits FBI Has Long Believed Covid 19 Was Fashioned in Chinese Lab; Also Says China Trying to "Thwart and Obfuscate" the Investigation Into Covid Origins

True but China wasn't the only one trying to obfuscate. Fauci and Dr Barik from UNC had this scam going back to the Obama years.

Posted by: Golfman at March 01, 2023 03:59 PM (BLVc0)

44 They were busy looking for noose's. Cut them a break haters!

Posted by: Minnfidel at March 01, 2023 03:59 PM (GwxCX)

45 thwart and obfuscate

I think I remember which part of the boat is the thwart.
Is the obfuscate part of the bilge?

Posted by: DaveA at March 01, 2023 03:59 PM (FhXTo)

46 Fuck Wray up the ass with his dead mother's dick

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at March 01, 2023 04:00 PM (VTu1l)

47 "thwart and obfuscate" Like pounce and seize

Posted by: scampydog at March 01, 2023 04:00 PM (2bFN5)

48 Will the Democrats Propaganda Ministry ever admit they lied?

Posted by: Skip at March 01, 2023 04:00 PM (xhxe8)

49 Stephen Colbert may not be much of a thinker, but at least he's super-funny.

Posted by: ace at March 01, 2023 03:58 PM (C1Zwz)
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Hey, no-one-ever, socking ace is a 100% ban.

Posted by: Axeman at March 01, 2023 04:00 PM (krQz2)

50 It's time for the McFailures to award medals to Wray and his troops.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 01, 2023 04:00 PM (E+05M)

51 Why, they all said, speaking from the same script, four other agencies found that the virus arose from zoonotic transfer, natural evolution!

What they failed to point out, Sexton noted, was that these agencies' confidence level in that finding was also... "low confidence."

Isn't that awfully funny? That they would stress the "low confidence" of a finding they don't like and then refuse the report the exact same "low confidence" of a finding they do like?

++++
No one ever accused them of consistency or honesty. They're hacks, to a man.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 01, 2023 04:00 PM (t0OGg)

52 Occam's Razor

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 01, 2023 03:58 PM (Irn0L)



The National Razor.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 01, 2023 04:01 PM (yQpMk)

53 I want a National Divorce.
And the kids. And the house and the money.
Posted by: Zek at March 01, 2023 03:53 PM (5FPX4)


Who gets the Galaxie 500?

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at March 01, 2023 04:01 PM (ZSK0i)

54 You have to wonder how much Xi is paying these 'journalists' to print this stuff. Is CCP cash the new business model?

Posted by: 40 Miles North at March 01, 2023 04:01 PM (uWF4x)

55 Also I'd bet the FBI has a special lab section with a Thwart and Obfuscate sign hanging from the ceiling above the cubicle farm.

Posted by: DaveA at March 01, 2023 04:01 PM (FhXTo)

56 Stephen Colbert may not be much of a thinker, but at least he's super-funny.

************

This is why I prefer Lamont

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at March 01, 2023 04:01 PM (VTu1l)

57 9 Yet the fib lied to America for over 2 years about the origins of covid.


Why are they changing their story now?
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS)

There's another, bigger story coming down that they want to distract from is my edumicated guess.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at March 01, 2023 04:01 PM (wUHYj)

58 I think I'm going to head out and buy me some of that toe nail fungus stuff. Advertising works.
Posted by: N.Lurker at March 01, 2023 03:56 PM (eGTCV)


Please don't share video of you scrubbing your toenails with it.

Posted by: Jordan61 at March 01, 2023 04:01 PM (DRSnL)

59 Might just as well be called the Tarheel Flu.
Posted by: Hands at March 01, 2023 03:59 PM (786Ro)

This.

Posted by: Golfman at March 01, 2023 04:01 PM (BLVc0)

60 Or the Party is getting too big for its britches. They're in power for themselves, not the people who helped get them there.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 01, 2023 03:55 PM (LvTSG)
++++
Yup. They played the Chinese for suckers. Probably not by initial intent, but the outcomes are what they are. Xi is almost certainly spitting mad over all this, but there's fairly little Xi can do about it. He can start a war in the Pacific, but that will hurt him at least much as it does us, even if he wins it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 01, 2023 04:01 PM (t0OGg)

61 "Remember, they're the media: And they only tell the truth."

For the life of me, I can't understand why people loath the media, and would like to seem them all drown in a bucket of piss. Why, it's like they hate anyone not part of their cult and want to see them dead. I don't know where they get that idea, but there it is.

Posted by: Marcus T at March 01, 2023 04:01 PM (M5z+9)

62 Either the checks aren't clearing or the Party has other concerns now, and sees different winds blowing.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 01, 2023 03:54 PM (t0OGg)

Or a bunch of low-IQ psychopaths are running a directionless criminal syndicate by thrashing about in all directions at once.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 01, 2023 04:02 PM (oINRc)

63 I think the destruction of comedy is part and parcel of building a totalitarian state.

Posted by: N.Lurker at March 01, 2023 04:02 PM (eGTCV)

64 We may never know the motivation behind this.
- Standard FBI response #257

Posted by: wth at March 01, 2023 04:02 PM (v0R5T)

65 The FIB has only "moderate confidence". They have yet to reach radical confidence.

Posted by: Axeman at March 01, 2023 04:02 PM (krQz2)

66 Has Trump ever said who came in the Oval and said

"Chris Wray is our man at the FBI"

not one of Trump's shinning moments

Posted by: REDACTED at March 01, 2023 04:02 PM (us2H3)

67 We need a new department. The Dept. of Governmental Waste And Corruption, and their sole mission is to find ways to eliminate other departments.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at March 01, 2023 04:02 PM (pohLc)

68 Stephen Colbert may not be much of a thinker, but at least he's super-funny.

Posted by: ace at March 01, 2023 03:58 PM (C1Zwz)

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Cruelty Rating: Off the chart.

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at March 01, 2023 04:02 PM (TNyrE)

69 Or a bunch of low-IQ psychopaths are running a directionless criminal syndicate by thrashing about in all directions at once.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 01, 2023 04:02 PM (oINRc)

Ding ding ding.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 01, 2023 04:03 PM (r1ZRd)

70 I want a National Divorce. And the kids. And the house and the money.

*******

But to show we're reasonable, we're willing to part with Detroit and New Orleans.

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at March 01, 2023 04:03 PM (VTu1l)

71 The Greek stock exchange was the best performing investment in February.

Is that a bad sign? It seems like a bad sign.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 01, 2023 04:03 PM (UuD2k)

72
Alternate poat title:

Stop The Asian Hate!

Posted by: Soothsayer, the HQ's Most Respected Commenter at March 01, 2023 04:03 PM (5roHi)

73 Sweet, sweet vindication!

Posted by: Pangolin Anti-Defamation League at March 01, 2023 04:03 PM (sWM8x)

74 Dr. Birx was all sexy in those scarves she used to wear.

I think the colors were a tell on what kind of a mood she was in that day. Red for Handys, Yellow for Oral, Blue for Buttstuff, etc.

Or maybe I am thinking of Seka.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 01, 2023 04:03 PM (GE8Ol)

75 Why are they changing their story now?
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 01, 2023 03:54 PM (uNylN)


a) it was released in 2019 and they were aware of it and were hiding it hoping it would burn out like the other accidents
b) The feeling is that Ukraine is about to collapse and they need to pivot to China Is The Enemy to keep the momentum up
C) someones are worried that the Russians are going to release information about US funding of Ukranian bio-research labs

Posted by: Kindltot at March 01, 2023 04:04 PM (xhaym)

76 The Wuhan lab worker appears to have acted alone with no known associations to any other group.

Posted by: Eff Bee Eye at March 01, 2023 04:04 PM (5FPX4)

77 Chris Wray is asshoe. He probably has one of those motivational posters framed on his office wall, with a pic of nature or some cute animal, and underneathe it says THWART AND OBFUSCATE.

Posted by: Hands at March 01, 2023 04:04 PM (786Ro)

78 Sooth, the Barrel yearns for thee.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 01, 2023 04:04 PM (UuD2k)

79 Yep. Just like there was no coup. No sirrie.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 01, 2023 04:04 PM (CsVWE)

Posted by: Kindltot at March 01, 2023 04:04 PM (xhaym)

81 Almost certainly the Chinese staff were selling actual lab specimens to the wet market to make a buck.

Posted by: Oldcat at March 01, 2023 04:04 PM (eoQWY)

82 60 Yup. They played the Chinese for suckers. Probably not by initial intent, but the outcomes are what they are. Xi is almost certainly spitting mad over all this, but there's fairly little Xi can do about it. He can start a war in the Pacific, but that will hurt him at least much as it does us, even if he wins it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 01, 2023 04:01 PM (t0OGg)

=========

Just...one time (ONE TIME), I want someone to release the intelligence they have over everyone else.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 01, 2023 04:04 PM (LvTSG)

83 Bold

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 01, 2023 04:04 PM (r1ZRd)

84 You want thwarting and obfuscation and sucking of dead mother's dicks I give you the

F


B


I

Posted by: Hans Gruber at March 01, 2023 04:04 PM (VTu1l)

85 Ahem

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 01, 2023 04:04 PM (yQpMk)

86 we fixed?

Posted by: Kindltot at March 01, 2023 04:04 PM (xhaym)

87 bold B gone!

Posted by: Hands at March 01, 2023 04:04 PM (786Ro)

88 So many bold statements.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at March 01, 2023 04:04 PM (pohLc)

89 Wray is full of shit. China isn't obscuring the origin: we know what the origin is. We simply don't know if we released it on purpose, or they did, or one side set the other up to release it on accident. Or if it was actually a real accident (unlikely).

There are reproducible steps using publicly available DNA databases to show how the virus was engineered with the assistance of Moderna genes patented SPECIFICALLY for that sort of work. SARS-COV-2 is literally the only virus ever sequenced that contains those. Several other sequences also come from other infectious diseases and are obviously engineered in; this was evident in Feb 2020 at which point Fauci's email trail shows them starting to coerce journals to censor them.

EcoHealth's rejected DARPA grant application details exactly what they did. EcoHealth's tweets from that time period reference the ongoing work - exactly as described in the grant application.

EcoHealth's chinese research partners uploaded the purported 2013 source of the virus - RATG13 - in December of 2019.

Groundwork for the vaccine started in December of 2019 *at the latest*. There is paperwork. People need to HANG for this.

Posted by: somedood at March 01, 2023 04:04 PM (N9SfE)

90 Uh oh.......

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 01, 2023 04:04 PM (uNylN)

91 Sweet, sweet vindication!

Posted by: Pangolin Anti-Defamation League at March 01, 2023 04:03 PM (sWM8x)

Short-lived.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 01, 2023 04:05 PM (PyOKD)

92 I never understood how saying the virus came from CHY-na is racist as the newsspeak bint claimed when asking Trump about it. But to be consistent, that means Wray and the FBI are racist.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at March 01, 2023 04:05 PM (fs1hN)

93
But this speaks to the problem with Trump.

Because he is so bombastic and inarftul in ALL Things, the credibility of his word was worthless and he lost all his clout.

Posted by: Soothsayer, the HQ's Most Respected Commenter at March 01, 2023 04:05 PM (5roHi)

94 Late night tv with the exception of Gutfeld, is unwatchable. They are not funny, or entertaining. They're just a bunch of low IQ trollopswho rent their mouths for a quarter.

Posted by: Marcus T at March 01, 2023 04:05 PM (M5z+9)

95 Sooth, the Barrel yearns for thee.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 01, 2023 04:04 PM (UuD2k)
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Pfft. I blanked out a square the other day! (I still don't know how that happened.)

Posted by: Axeman at March 01, 2023 04:05 PM (krQz2)

96 Semi-apologies for my earlier comment. I loathe anyone who was an insider in the Coof debacle. Birx was certainly one of them.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 01, 2023 04:06 PM (Xrfse)

97 Another stellar Trump pick.

But everyone else is just part of the Deep State Globalist Establishment.

Posted by: Audio at March 01, 2023 04:06 PM (ryxiN)

98
Who was the dummy, this time?

oh wait..

Posted by: Soothsayer, the HQ's Most Respected Commenter at March 01, 2023 04:06 PM (5roHi)

99
(sigh) So Wray is a crazy MAGA conspiracy nut now? Sad.

Posted by: Auspex at March 01, 2023 04:06 PM (j4U/Z)

100 The Greek stock exchange was the best performing investment in February.

Is that a bad sign? It seems like a bad sign.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 01, 2023 04:03 PM (UuD2k)

Its all the tankers of Russian oil that they add a cup of Wesson oil to and allow it to be sold to EU countries (legally) as "Oil of unknown origin". India is making bucks doing the same for the US Trade.

Posted by: Oldcat at March 01, 2023 04:06 PM (eoQWY)

101 Posted by: Soothsayer, the HQ's Most Respected Commenter at March 01, 2023 04:03 PM (5roHi)

Less time posting FIRST, more time creating close tags...

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at March 01, 2023 04:06 PM (ZSK0i)

102 NOLA would be is to rehab

it's Dallas and Houston that I worry about

and just raze Memphis for God's sake

Posted by: REDACTED at March 01, 2023 04:06 PM (us2H3)

103 So many bold statements.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at March 01, 2023 04:04 PM (pohLc)
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For sooth!

Posted by: Axeman at March 01, 2023 04:06 PM (krQz2)

104 For Sooth, for whom the barrel beckons.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at March 01, 2023 04:06 PM (FUBfX)

105 would be easy

Posted by: REDACTED at March 01, 2023 04:06 PM (us2H3)

106 I never understood how saying the virus came from CHY-na is racist as the newsspeak bint claimed when asking Trump about it. But to be consistent, that means Wray and the FBI are racist.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at March 01, 2023 04:05 PM


Asians are only a minority group when the left needs them to be a minority group. For all other times they are *white* Asians and are not a minority.


Do try and keep up.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 01, 2023 04:06 PM (uNylN)

107 I always knew it was from the CCP lab but now I'm doubting that because Wray says it is true.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at March 01, 2023 04:07 PM (17s+e)

108 The Chinese infected the world with a disease. Fuck your confidence.


And I am NOT an imbecile!!!

Posted by: eleven at March 01, 2023 04:07 PM (iziT8)

109 Fuck Wray up the ass with his dead mother's dick
Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at March 01, 2023 04:00 PM (VTu1l)

Well there is one I have never heard LOL

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 01, 2023 04:07 PM (Irn0L)

110 Semi-apologies for my earlier comment. I loathe anyone who was an insider in the Coof debacle. Birx was certainly one of them.

*********************

I admit at the time I was temporarily fooled by her scarves. They were so shiny.

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at March 01, 2023 04:07 PM (VTu1l)

111 "We simply don't know if we released it on purpose, or they did, or one side set the other up to release it on accident. Or if it was actually a real accident (unlikely)."

I object. Irrelevant.
Whether initially released on purpose or accidentally, the Chicoms would have known the origin. The subsequent hiding of this fact, and then allowing travel between Europe and Wuhan was an intentional spread to the world, i.e. intentional launch of a massive bioweapon, regardless of earlier intent.

Posted by: Zek, yet I repeat myself at March 01, 2023 04:07 PM (5FPX4)

112 On January 31, 2020, Danish-born and British-educated scientist Kristian Andersen, emailed Dr. Tony Fauci saying the virus looks lab-made.

Kristian Anderson, “Some of the features look engineered” and the “genome looks inconsistent with evolutionary theory.”

Then on February 4, 2020, after a call with Dr. Tony Fauci, British scientist Kristian Anderson wrote that the lab leak theory was a conspiracy theory.

Dr. Anderson switched his story in 4 days after his call with Tony Fauci.

But, The New York Times conveniently omitted that after his call with Dr. Fauci on February 1, 2020, Dr. Anderson was given a $1.88 million grant and $16.5 million in funding from NIAID, Dr. Fauci’s personal piggy bank.

Posted by: SMOD at March 01, 2023 04:07 PM (RHGPo)

113 I still think this was an op coordinated by DC deep state operatives and China. It was all to.make Trump look bad after he forced higher tariffs on the Chicoms.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at March 01, 2023 04:07 PM (BdMk6)

114 Well there is one I have never heard LOL

*************

ace has forced me to be more inventive with my invective ever since Lamont left the blog

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at March 01, 2023 04:07 PM (VTu1l)

115 My social media is in my personal capacity.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 01, 2023 03:58 PM (yQpMk)

--------

"I have no specific recollection -- or independent memory of the that."

-- Leftist hero with the photographic memory, Bubba Clinton, repeatedly to a grand jury

Posted by: ShainS -- Transgenderism is the Tip of the Transhumanism Spear at March 01, 2023 04:08 PM (B95fm)

116 The year is 2024.

As the presidential race heads into the homestretch, democrats are quick to remind everyone that they always knew Covid emanated from a lab in China and that it was Trump who overreacted and rushed a vaccine into the public's arms without demanding the Chinese work with us to create an appropriate response.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 01, 2023 04:08 PM (KbCG3)

117 Hmmm.... My takeaway is that the FBI know early on and yet had current officials talking with former officials at twitter to deplatform anyone who said what they believed?

Morbark.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at March 01, 2023 04:08 PM (FCbAQ)

118 Pointing out that it was forbidden to talk about a lab leak, would get you canceled and even fired is just conspiracy theory. It's only happened your tinfoil wrapped paranoid mind, haters.

Posted by: Ripley at March 01, 2023 04:08 PM (cUYo/)

119 lethal viral loads upon a pangolin

never party with the mouse.














Posted by: DaveA at March 01, 2023 04:08 PM (FhXTo)

120 May Wray use diseased hair gel.

Posted by: N.Lurker at March 01, 2023 04:08 PM (eGTCV)

121 Early on I knew Teh Horde would be fine after learning eating boogers and rubbing one out plays a large role in beating the virus.

Posted by: Gooning Gary at March 01, 2023 04:08 PM (dfz97)

122 Former Rep. Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.) is set to join the University of Virginia as a professor at its Center for Politics. “With democracy under fire in this country and elsewhere around the world, Liz Cheney serves as a model of political courage and leadership,” the center’s director, Larry Sabato, said in a statement.

Posted by: SMOD at March 01, 2023 04:09 PM (RHGPo)

123 It's called zoonotic when you get hypnotized by other animals than hyppos.

Posted by: Axeman at March 01, 2023 04:09 PM (krQz2)

124 Wray is full of shit. China isn't obscuring the origin: we know what the origin is. We simply don't know if we released it on purpose, or they did, or one side set the other up to release it on accident. Or if it was actually a real accident (unlikely).

Posted by: somedood at March 0

Its not unlikely at all. Protocols at Chinese labs were known to be notoriously lax, which was one of the arguments Fauci ignored in funding research there.

For example, test samples have been 'destroyed' by selling them outside for food, and the notorious wet market is right there selling bats.

Posted by: Oldcat at March 01, 2023 04:09 PM (eoQWY)

125 65 degrees out there on 3/1. Here comes the sun.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 01, 2023 04:09 PM (Xrfse)

126
Just like Kiev, we are now being TOLD Turkey has a new fake spelling. It's, get this, Turkiye, with the stupid umlauts over the u.

Is this new?

Posted by: Soothsayer, the HQ's Most Respected Commenter at March 01, 2023 04:09 PM (5roHi)

127 Or a bunch of low-IQ psychopaths are running a directionless criminal syndicate by thrashing about in all directions at once.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 01, 2023 04:02 PM (oINRc)
++++
Yup. Or that.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 01, 2023 04:09 PM (t0OGg)

128 Speaking of evil rats in the DOJ, here's Garland suggesting to Sen Blackburn he would prefer to prosecute Jane's Revenge as domestic terrorists, but the poor lost lamb just can't find them. He even asks Sen Blackburn if SHE can help them find Jane's Revenge.

https://bit.ly/3mg11bd

Posted by: bonhomme at March 01, 2023 04:09 PM (eyxn4)

129 The Greek stock exchange was the best performing investment in February.
........

Go long on Ouzo and butt lube.

Posted by: wth at March 01, 2023 04:09 PM (v0R5T)

130 Anyone thought of grabbing St Fauci and putting him on a witness stand yet?

Posted by: Skip at March 01, 2023 04:10 PM (xhxe8)

131 I was mesmerized by a Hippo once.

Posted by: eleven at March 01, 2023 04:10 PM (iziT8)

132 I don't know if it's the Benadryl, but the UPS guy that just delivered a package bears an uncanny resemblance to Hunter Biden.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at March 01, 2023 04:11 PM (+my1P)

133 Anyone thought of grabbing St Fauci and putting him on a witness stand yet?

Posted by: Skip at March 01, 2023 04:10 PM (xhxe
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He's been there. He just lies to Congress.

Posted by: Axeman at March 01, 2023 04:11 PM (krQz2)

134 But anyway, until the US taxpayer funding of this research in a Chinese lab in order to avoid doing this research on US soil in order to evade US law as was ordered by Anthony FAUCI is broadly known, it doesn't really matter all that much.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at March 01, 2023 04:11 PM (fs1hN)

135 Anyone thought of grabbing St Fauci and putting him on a witness stand yet?

*********

Let's just drop him in a woodchipper and see what comes out

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at March 01, 2023 04:11 PM (VTu1l)

136 There has been a lot of weird activity in China policy since Biden took office, but most of it has been net-negative for the mainland. Stuff like this is *not* what I would expect for a China-owned Party.

Either the checks aren't clearing or the Party has other concerns now, and sees different winds blowing.


I suspect either the Party knows things in China are a lot worse than anyone's letting on (which has a lot of support from non-Party sources) or KEEEEV has simply replaced Beijing as the central clearinghouse for Western graft.

Posted by: Ian S. at March 01, 2023 04:11 PM (ZGrMX)

137 Happy new made-up Women's History Month

What month is Hetero Male History Month?

Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 01, 2023 04:11 PM (E+05M)

138 Anyone thought of grabbing St Fauci and putting him on a witness stand yet?
Posted by: Skip at March 01, 2023 04:10 PM

They would but the FIB can't find him.

Posted by: Minnfidel at March 01, 2023 04:11 PM (GwxCX)

139 "Just like Kiev, we are now being TOLD Turkey has a new fake spelling. It's, get this, Turkiye, with the stupid umlauts over the u."

Okay let's play along. From now on Korea, Japan and China can no longer use characters when writing of Europe or the U.S. and must use our alphabet. And the French can no longer say "Etats Unis." It's "The US of F*ckin- A"!

Take that, foreigners !

Posted by: Zek at March 01, 2023 04:12 PM (5FPX4)

140 Wray is the poster boy as to why the FBI should be abolished.

Pure. Scum.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 01, 2023 04:12 PM (GE8Ol)

141 They need to hang those involved in creating the virus who later covered up their work or helped the censorship effort. They need to hang those that directed and facilitated the coverup/censorship.

They need to hang everyone who whose orders directed bypassing informed consent via censorship on the vax, anyone and everyone who pencil-whipped numbers (splitting the VAERS data into sections, the funky math that suppressed warning signal threshholds, everyone who signed off on fake/misrepresented study records).

As much as I'd love to see those ordering mandates swing, though, I suspect that realistically most of them were useful idiots who didn't have a concrete understanding of the medical related offenses. Being a twat isn't quite a crime against humanity like the medical shit.

Posted by: somedood at March 01, 2023 04:12 PM (N9SfE)

142 (sigh) So Wray is a crazy MAGA conspiracy nut now? Sad.
Posted by: Auspex

Trust Sessions
Trust Wray
Aries retrograde
Astroglide foam parties
Trust Rubio
Patriots in control

Posted by: Q at March 01, 2023 04:12 PM (dfz97)

143 What month is Hetero Male History Month?
Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 01, 2023 04:11 PM (E+05M)

All of them. We're the only people that can open jars.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 01, 2023 04:12 PM (UuD2k)

144
Do you really think the fbi cocksucker is having a moment of truth and cander? Do you, really?

Soothsayerism #1: You Only See and Hear What They Want You To See and Hear.

Remember the "spy balloon" bullshit? And the bullshit before that? And before that?

Posted by: Soothsayer, the HQ's Most Respected Commenter at March 01, 2023 04:12 PM (5roHi)

145 Anyone thought of grabbing St Fauci and putting him on a witness stand yet?
Posted by: Skip


Yes but President Brandon says Fauci is just an idea.

Posted by: Hands at March 01, 2023 04:12 PM (786Ro)

146 I watched part of Wray's interview with Bret Baier while I was at the gym.

He laid off blame for investigating parents at school board meetings, and the notorious Mar-a-Lago raid, onto lower level people whom he did not name. A real profile in courage, huh?

So what exactly does the head of the FBI do, if lower level people make all the critical decisions? I was really wishing Baier would hold his feet to the fire ("who exactly authorized those two outrages, if not you? Will you require them to come on this show and answer questions about these decisions? If not, why not?")

He ducked other questions by lamely claiming the matter was still under investigation. It was disgusting.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 01, 2023 04:13 PM (YqDXo)

147 Is this new?

Posted by: Soothsayer


It's something that was cooked up in Deutchland.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 01, 2023 04:13 PM (lTGtQ)

148 136 There has been a lot of weird activity in China policy since Biden took office, but most of it has been net-negative for the mainland. Stuff like this is *not* what I would expect for a China-owned Party.

Either the checks aren't clearing or the Party has other concerns now, and sees different winds blowing.

I suspect either the Party knows things in China are a lot worse than anyone's letting on (which has a lot of support from non-Party sources) or KEEEEV has simply replaced Beijing as the central clearinghouse for Western graft.
Posted by: Ian S. at March 01, 2023 04:11 PM (ZGrMX)

Might I suggest that they know they can't conceal the truth forever so might as well try to get ahead of this while most of the public is disinterested and move forward with the full understanding that nothing, NOTHING, will ever happen to anyone.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 01, 2023 04:13 PM (KbCG3)

149 Lies, destruction of economy, stolen elections, rampant drug addiction, crime,....

These are not the *cost* of maintaining control over society, they are the *goal*

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at March 01, 2023 04:13 PM (72I0u)

150 I don't know if it's the Benadryl, but the UPS guy that just delivered a package bears an uncanny resemblance to Hunter Biden.
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at March 01, 2023 04:11 PM

I bet if you check the tracking on the web it will say. Your cocaine has arrived. It was left at your doorstep.

Posted by: Minnfidel at March 01, 2023 04:13 PM (GwxCX)

151 They knew the Wuhan lab was the source. They lied because:

1) Trump. They wanted to paint him as a racist.
2) Their Chinese paymasters asked them to lie.
3) They paid for the research that created the virus.
4) They want to continue this sort of research for reasons your tiny mind couldn't understand. trust them - this mutating of viruses to be more infectious to humans is a good thing and very beneficial.

1 and 2 are no longer true. 3 - the people who approved this are now retiring and they can blame them. 4 is the only hold out.

Posted by: Comrade Roboto at March 01, 2023 04:13 PM (+DS2f)

152
What month is Hetero Male History Month?
Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 01, 2023 04:11 PM (E+05M)

It's only been every month of history since the dawn of man.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 01, 2023 04:13 PM (oINRc)

153 As has been noted, we knew it was created in the Wuhan Level 4 Bio lab in February of 2020, because people who worked at the lab sad the virus was created there and it was released from there.

Basically what we have going on right now is the most audacious attempt at turning the page and movingondotorg that we have ever seen.

These people are f**king evil scum and richly deserve to be fed feet first into an industrial wood chipper.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 01, 2023 04:14 PM (up/3i)

154 China's economy was faltering at the time and the U.S. was uniquely thriving. In fact before the release of COVID we were facing unprecedented economic gains with no end in sight. We were also focused on moving China out of markets and decreasing our reliability on them.

Now, ask yourself that question again. "Was the release accidental or deliberate from a lab controlled by the Chinese military and intelligence apparatus?"

Posted by: Marcus T at March 01, 2023 04:14 PM (M5z+9)

155 It was always a Big Lie that is did not come from the lab, backed up with fake science. Don't let them say "well, it is low confidence now", and don't pretend it was "low confidence that it was from the lab then.

That is giving the propaganda media too easy a way out ... They Lied, they lie all the time, they know they are lying, they laugh at what good propagandists they are, promoting for their commie dreams to the "ignorant masses".

Posted by: illiniwek at March 01, 2023 04:14 PM (Cus5s)

156 It's something that was cooked up in Deutchland.

Posted by: Thomas Paine



Maybe we should ask the people of Norge.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 01, 2023 04:14 PM (lTGtQ)

157 The fact that either Moderna or Pfizer had patented a particular gene sequence before the outbreak, and that particular gene sequence was in the Alpha strain of the Wuhan Lung Rot is purely coincidental, and has no material bearing that the virus was completely a natural evolution thing. It was just a coincidence that the very thing which helped the virus infect humans, that particular gene sequence that Moderna or Pfizer had patented before the outbreak, was found in the Alpha strain. Pure coincidence. Swearsies. Pinky Swearsies.

The executives in charge need to be inmates in the general population of a high security prison - or decorating lamp posts.

Posted by: Ligma Balzak from Fuggencrass, Vulgaria at March 01, 2023 04:14 PM (JNTt1)

158 "What month is Hetero Male History Month?
Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 01, 2023 04:11 PM (E+05M)"

Next thing you know there'll be Boob Appreciation Day or Adopt a Smoking Hot Chick Week.

Posted by: Zek at March 01, 2023 04:14 PM (5FPX4)

159 "Your cocaine was lost en route"

Posted by: eleven at March 01, 2023 04:14 PM (iziT8)

160 He ducked other questions by lamely claiming the matter was still under investigation. It was disgusting.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 01, 2023 04:13 PM

Did the little shit weasel say he had a plane to catch too? I loathe that slimy fuck.

Posted by: Minnfidel at March 01, 2023 04:15 PM (GwxCX)

161 They knew the Wuhan lab was the source. They lied because:

1) Trump. They wanted to paint him as a racist.
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You realize how high we climbed to set basecamp on Mt. Stupid when you think those two sentences have a rationale.

Posted by: Axeman at March 01, 2023 04:15 PM (krQz2)

162 I object. Irrelevant.
Whether initially released on purpose or accidentally, the Chicoms would have known the origin. The subsequent hiding of this fact, and then allowing travel between Europe and Wuhan was an intentional spread to the world, i.e. intentional launch of a massive bioweapon, regardless of earlier intent.
Posted by: Zek, yet I repeat myself at March 01, 2023 04:07 PM (5FPX4)

If they wanted to spread it intentionally internationally, it would have been easier if they had limited the internal exposure more....like send contaminated lab workers right out to the airport...rather than have a local outbreak that was so serious.

If they wanted to blame an outbreak in China on foreign research they would have made public what they undoubtedly knew beforehand or found out after.

The best fit to what happened is that they did have an outbreak and partly shame related and partly political related intrigued to maximize the reach of the pandemic outside China.

Posted by: Oldcat at March 01, 2023 04:15 PM (eoQWY)

163
Anyone remember when filling out online order forms "United States" was ALWAYS at the top of the drop-down queue for list of countries?

Now, because it's "unfair" and "colonizing," the list is alphabetical, thus putting United States near the very bottom even though 90% of sales are by US residents.

Posted by: Soothsayer, the HQ's Most Respected Commenter at March 01, 2023 04:15 PM (5roHi)

164 Move past the politics? Oh hell, no, the politics is what this was ALL about. Birx admitted she lied to Trump, why is she free?

Posted by: CN at March 01, 2023 04:15 PM (Zzbjj)

165 "148 136 There has been a lot of weird activity in China policy since Biden took office, but most of it has been net-negative for the mainland. Stuff like this is *not* what I would expect for a China-owned Party.

Either the checks aren't clearing or the Party has other concerns now, and sees different winds blowing."

I think the checks have stopped, and everyone realizes China is going to economically crash and/or invade Taiwan. Good time to distance yourself.

Posted by: Comrade Roboto at March 01, 2023 04:15 PM (+DS2f)

166 128 Speaking of evil rats in the DOJ, here's Garland suggesting to Sen Blackburn he would prefer to prosecute Jane's Revenge as domestic terrorists, but the poor lost lamb just can't find them. He even asks Sen Blackburn if SHE can help them find Jane's Revenge.

https://bit.ly/3mg11bd
Posted by: bonhomme


Ah, the Ahmadinejad Gambit.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at March 01, 2023 04:15 PM (wUHYj)

167 Nishad Singh, the former engineering chief for failed cryptocurrency exchange FTX, pleaded guilty to criminal charges in New York on Tuesday. Multiple FTX executives have now pleaded guilty, applying more pressure on disgraced CEO and Democrat super donor Sam Bankman-Fried.

The six charges against Singh included conspiracy to commit securities fraud, conspiracy to commit money laundering, and conspiracy to violate campaign finance laws, according to a report by CNBC.

Posted by: SMOD at March 01, 2023 04:16 PM (RHGPo)

168

Good Tucker interview with Ed Dowd about excess death and disability here:

https://tinyurl.com/2le3rdg4

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz) at March 01, 2023 04:16 PM (Mzdiz)

169 I was mesmerized by a Hippo once.

Posted by: eleven at March 01, 2023 04:10 PM (iziT

Go on . . . .

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 01, 2023 04:16 PM (PyOKD)

170 Only now?
Wray seems a little slow on the uptake to only have come to this conclusion now.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron

Dr. Ralph Baric started research into this enhanced functional corona virus over 10 years ago.
Then, when the Viral research scientists started discussing this, they thought that Gain of Function research was dangerous.
So Baric and crew moved this research to Wuhan from either UNC or Fort Dietrich (that's our government).
Peter Daszak (ECo-Health Alliance) furthered this, as Eco-Health Alliance was (get this) a front for the CIA.

And Fauci (We may never know the source of this virus!! - quote) funneled money into this from his position as head of NIAID

So yeah, the CIA and FBI have known about this for YEARS. As has Fauci, the FDA, NIAID, CDC and the rest of these criminal government alphabet clowns.

And yes, your government actually wants you dead.

Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at March 01, 2023 04:16 PM (vcOmj)

171 Speaking of evil rat bastards bitches.

Cindy McCain tapped as head of World Food Program
The United Nations will announce Thursday that McCain will lead the body — putting a close ally of President Joe Biden at the top of the world’s largest humanitarian group amid war and food crises.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 01, 2023 04:16 PM (E+05M)

172 Its not unlikely at all. Protocols at Chinese labs were known to be notoriously lax, which was one of the arguments Fauci ignored in funding research there.

For example, test samples have been 'destroyed' by selling them outside for food, and the notorious wet market is right there selling bats.

Posted by: Oldcat at March 01, 2023 04:09 PM


fauci, et. al. went to China and Ukraine to conduct virus gain of function research because it had been prohibited in the US. What had not been prohibited was for the United States taxpayer to fund gain of function research and it is still legal for US agencies to pay for gain of function research outside of the United States. Not a single lawmaker other than ted cruz has addressed that issue.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 01, 2023 04:16 PM (uNylN)

173 "The best fit to what happened is that they did have an outbreak and partly shame related and partly political related intrigued to maximize the reach of the pandemic outside China."

Yes. Exactly. That is, intentional.
The motives may have been complex. Yet the spread aspect all comes down to an intentional policy.

Posted by: Zek at March 01, 2023 04:16 PM (5FPX4)

174
It's something that was cooked up in Deutchland.
Posted by: Thomas Paine


Krauts.
It's always the damn krauts.

Posted by: Soothsayer, the HQ's Most Respected Commenter at March 01, 2023 04:16 PM (5roHi)

175 Remember, they're the media: And they only tell the truth.
You believe that, don't you?


Of course we do. They are Top Men. Top. Men.

Posted by: NPC_01100011 at March 01, 2023 04:16 PM (a3Q+t)

176 These people are f**king evil scum and richly deserve to be fed feet first into an industrial wood chipper.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 01, 2023 04:14 PM

Is it wrong of me to wish it was a pit of fire so there was some suffering for a bit first before heading to hell?

Posted by: Minnfidel at March 01, 2023 04:16 PM (GwxCX)

177 Either the checks aren't clearing or the Party has other concerns now, and sees different winds blowing.

I suspect either the Party knows things in China are a lot worse than anyone's letting on (which has a lot of support from non-Party sources) or KEEEEV has simply replaced Beijing as the central clearinghouse for Western graft.
Posted by: Ian S.



Labor costs in China went up five fold. That, plus the perfidity of the Chinese government meant that many corporations pulled out. The house of cards is collapsing.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 01, 2023 04:17 PM (lTGtQ)

178 So we were right all along.......

Again.......

For like the zillionth thing concerning COVID.......

Because we followed science and objective evidence........

Huh. Who would've think it?

You know the left's only fig leaf here is they believed what they were told. Not evidence, it science, just what they were told. They are ready made slaves. Eventually that will be the new mantra. Not "Believe Science" but "Believe what you're told" masks work, COVID was naturally occurring, China is good, gender is a social fiction, and on and on and on supposed "FACTS" to which any disagreement is "disinformation"

Posted by: mikethemoose at March 01, 2023 04:17 PM (AmpGx)

179 "Go on . . . ."



Nothing happened!!

Posted by: eleven at March 01, 2023 04:17 PM (iziT8)

180 "Its not unlikely at all. Protocols at Chinese labs were known to be notoriously lax, which was one of the arguments Fauci ignored in funding research there.

For example, test samples have been 'destroyed' by selling them outside for food, and the notorious wet market is right there selling bats.
Posted by: Oldcat at March 01, 2023 04:09 PM (eoQWY)"

It's unlikely because the Chinese track record for SARS-1 accidents is well known, *AND* the Americans involved in this had a huge, HUGE motive to finagle China into position to fuck up.

Multiply that motive by their follow up behavior: obstruct containment efforts, encourage the spread while suppressing surveillance until it's too late, then go full 1984 with politically convenient timing. If the Chinese "accidentally" released this, then it's almost certainly because someone else wanted it to happen - the obvious suspect being those who stood to benefit and started the whole project in the first fucking place.

Ropes. People need to hang.


Posted by: somedood at March 01, 2023 04:17 PM (N9SfE)

181 Move past the politics? Oh hell, no, the politics is what this was ALL about.

Posted by: CN at March 01, 2023 04:15 PM (Zzbjj)
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*fumes*

Posted by: The Hokey Pokey at March 01, 2023 04:17 PM (krQz2)

182 "Deborah Birx seems altogether unsurprised at the finding that China leaked covid from its virus-creation lab, and assumes this is what happened, with no caveats and no "low confidence" about it."

Occams Razor just had an erection that's definitely going to last more then four hours.

Posted by: Marcus T at March 01, 2023 04:17 PM (M5z+9)

183 China had better not sell arms to Ukraine, or we'll come out with other revelations.

Posted by: The Deep State! at March 01, 2023 04:17 PM (2tUFv)

184 And yes, your government actually wants you dead.

Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at March 01, 2023 04:16 PM (vcOmj)


I rate this as true, as most of the government is WEF prostitutes

Posted by: CN at March 01, 2023 04:17 PM (Zzbjj)

185 Cindy McCain tapped as head of World Food Program
The United Nations will announce Thursday that McCain will lead the body — putting a close ally of President Joe Biden at the top of the world’s largest humanitarian group amid war and food crises.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 01, 2023 04:16 PM (E+05M)

----------------
Well, daughter Meghan does appear to have some expertise in the field of food.

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at March 01, 2023 04:18 PM (TNyrE)

186 "Was the release accidental or deliberate from a lab controlled by the Chinese military and intelligence apparatus?"

The Chinese woman Tucker had on believes it was deliberate release, but maybe they did not realize how virulent it would be.

So they were (perhaps?) willing to infect their own city while a million or more were home for the holidays, then send them around the world to spread it (while not allowing travel from Wuhan to other parts of China).

Sound like something "Unlimited Warfare" China would certainly do.

Posted by: illiniwek at March 01, 2023 04:18 PM (Cus5s)

187 "Its not unlikely at all. Protocols at Chinese labs were known to be notoriously lax, which was one of the arguments Fauci ignored in funding research there.
---
What I read was it was doing level 4 research with only the care of a level 2 lab.

Posted by: Axeman at March 01, 2023 04:18 PM (krQz2)

188
Just a reminder for any interested skywatchers. The conjuction of Venus and Jupiter is tonight (they will be the closet). Look to the West right after sundown, and you'll see it. They are both quite bright and will be visible (if it's clear) in early twilight.

Unfortunately, it's cloudy here, but it was clear last night, and it was pretty spectacular then.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz) at March 01, 2023 04:18 PM (Mzdiz)

189 Maybe we should ask the people of Norge.

Posted by: Thomas Paine



They might ask the residents of Suomi.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 01, 2023 04:18 PM (lTGtQ)

190 Good Tucker interview with Ed Dowd about excess death and disability here:

https://tinyurl.com/2le3rdg4
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz)

Please buy Ed Dowd's book and give it to your friends in denial about the lethality of the mRNA vaccines.
Ed presents actuarial data from insurance companies showing the big uptick in mortality for WORKING AGE, EMPLOYED people from 18-49 from early in 2021 on.
This is data for people on group health plans. It's real.

What changed? What happened?

Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at March 01, 2023 04:18 PM (vcOmj)

191 Posted by: Marcus T at March 01, 2023 04:14 PM

+1000

Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 01, 2023 04:18 PM (Xrfse)

192 Witnesses in Congress don't matter, lawsuits do.
Lying to Congress is a two tier justice system

Posted by: Skip at March 01, 2023 04:19 PM (xhxe8)

193 I thought EVERY day was Boob Appreciation Day.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at March 01, 2023 04:19 PM (BTgKJ)

194 139 "Just like Kiev, we are now being TOLD Turkey has a new fake spelling. It's, get this, Turkiye, with the stupid umlauts over the u."

Posted by: Zek

In Japan the government has said "This is how you translate foreign text into Japanese." This is essential, since otherwise foreign legal documents have no meaning. I.e., you could create multiple ID by varying translation.

I understood that the US has no such capability after 9/11 when there were 17 different spellings for OBL (or UBL.) It is also a problem for border control,.....

So what is the purpose of the state dept., anyway?

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at March 01, 2023 04:19 PM (72I0u)

195 Sound like something "Unlimited Warfare" China would certainly do.
Posted by: illiniwek at March 01, 2023 04:18 PM (Cus5s)

Does hug a Chinese day ring a bell?

Posted by: CN at March 01, 2023 04:19 PM (Zzbjj)

196 The next lie they will tell

"When we said it didn't come from the lab, we meant INTENTIONALLY. We never said it didn't come from the lab unintentionally. Just a silly accident. Never mind - what does it matter now?

Posted by: Comrade Roboto at March 01, 2023 04:19 PM (+DS2f)

197 "Go on . . . ."

Nothing happened!!

Posted by: eleven at March 01, 2023 04:17 PM (iziT

Stuck in the talking stage?

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 01, 2023 04:19 PM (PyOKD)

198 and it is still legal for US agencies to pay for gain of function research outside of the United States

US agencies did not pay for gain of function research outside of the United States!

They used EcoHealth as a cutout.

Posted by: The Deep State! at March 01, 2023 04:19 PM (2tUFv)

199 So what is the purpose of the state dept., anyway?
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at March 01, 2023 04:19 PM (72I0u)

Waste money, hire nepots, undermine the US

Posted by: CN at March 01, 2023 04:20 PM (Zzbjj)

200 This blonde in a dress has a trust problem when it comes to government officials:
https://is.gd/EwYCJO

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 01, 2023 04:20 PM (t0OGg)

201
Yes, why take a poke at china, now?
Is it because china has no need for Democrats now since china got everything they wanted already?

What's that saying?
Why Buy The Cow When You Get The Democrat For Free?

Posted by: Soothsayer, the HQ's Most Respected Commenter at March 01, 2023 04:20 PM (5roHi)

202 Cindy McCain tapped as head of World Food Program
The United Nations will announce Thursday that McCain will lead the body — putting a close ally of President Joe Biden at the top of the world’s largest humanitarian group amid war and food crises.
Posted by: Maj. Healey

News Flash: World Food Program mysteriously runs out of food while fatty McCain gains even more weight.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at March 01, 2023 04:20 PM (FUBfX)

203 They might ask the residents of Suomi.

Moskva says hi!

Posted by: The Orcs! at March 01, 2023 04:21 PM (2tUFv)

204 And yes, your government actually wants you dead.
Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at March 01, 2023 04:16 PM


To be fair, we only want the wrong sort dead.

Posted by: Your Government at March 01, 2023 04:21 PM (a3Q+t)

205 "What I read was it was doing level 4 research with only the care of a level 2 lab.
Posted by: Axeman at March 01, 2023 04:18 PM (krQz2)"

The actual level doesn't really matter - multiple previous lab escapes were the result of accidents that went unreported by workers. BSL4 doesn't mean shit if people needle prick themselves, hide it, and then go to a public hospital a week later.

The odds of a lab in China not fucking something like this up are about zero.

Posted by: somedood at March 01, 2023 04:21 PM (N9SfE)

206 This blonde in a dress has a trust problem when it comes to government officials:

https://is.gd/EwYCJO
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 01, 2023 04:20 PM (t0OGg)
---
That's a Barbie doll.

Posted by: Axeman at March 01, 2023 04:21 PM (krQz2)

207 Its not unlikely at all. Protocols at Chinese labs were known to be notoriously lax, which was one of the arguments Fauci ignored in funding research there.
---
What I read was it was doing level 4 research with only the care of a level 2 lab.
Posted by: Axeman at March 01, 2023 04:18 PM (krQz2)


My theory from the beginning was that the Chinese investigated reports of a new disease killing people in Wuhan, and immediately went to the lab. They discovered that it was a shitshow of mismanagement and safety violations, and they panicked. A lot of the early decisions by western leaders was because they were being told by intel agencies, "the Chinese are freaking out behind the scenes, and they seem to think that it was a bioweapon."

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at March 01, 2023 04:21 PM (wmDcS)

208 fauci, et. al. went to China and Ukraine to conduct virus gain of function research because it had been prohibited in the US. What had not been prohibited was for the United States taxpayer to fund gain of function research and it is still legal for US agencies to pay for gain of function research outside of the United States. Not a single lawmaker other than ted cruz has addressed that issue.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 01, 2023 04:16 PM (uNylN)

Actually it was prohibited in the initial until lobbying by noted patriot A. Fauci had insterted a line that the director could sign off on such research. That director was A. Fauci.

Posted by: Oldcat at March 01, 2023 04:21 PM (eoQWY)

209 Well, daughter Meghan does appear to have some expertise in the field of food.
Posted by: Curly Shuffle at March 01, 2023 04:18 PM

You have ZERO decency. Her fathers funeral is still going on.

Posted by: Minnfidel at March 01, 2023 04:21 PM (GwxCX)

210 So they were (perhaps?) willing to infect their own city while a million or more were home for the holidays, then send them around the world to spread it (while not allowing travel from Wuhan to other parts of China).

Of course they were.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 01, 2023 04:21 PM (Xrfse)

211 I posted this yesterday - I think most people in the field immediately understood. THey discussed it until that Nature article came out.

The real scandal is how the pharmaceutical industry has them all by by balls - grants, jobs, publishing,... it all goes back to Big Pharma money and often subsidized by Big Health Authority and the revolving door.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at March 01, 2023 04:21 PM (72I0u)

212 "Yes, why take a poke at china, now?
Is it because china has no need for Democrats now since china got everything they wanted already?"

Domestic distraction + jockeying for position over Ukraine.

Posted by: somedood at March 01, 2023 04:21 PM (N9SfE)

213 Former Rep. Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.) is set to join the University of Virginia as a professor at its Center for Politics.

Cindy McCain tapped as head of World Food Program

These people are harder to get rid of than herpes.

Posted by: wth at March 01, 2023 04:22 PM (v0R5T)

214 or maybe our CIA released it in Wuhan, China responded by sending their infected around the world. heh ... unrestricted warfare, the CIA home game version.

Posted by: illiniwek at March 01, 2023 04:22 PM (Cus5s)

215 Waste money, hire nepots, undermine the US

Illegally conduct "information warfare" inside the United States.

Posted by: The Orcs! at March 01, 2023 04:22 PM (2tUFv)

216 I used res ipsa loquitor to describe this here, Years ago. John Stewart did essentiallybthe same a year ago using the left's holy writ ofcsarcasm and mockery. Ace did same a few days ago. The real shame is that we literally must cargoes the obvious and that so many today are incapable of the least bit of reasoning to conclusion /logical inference (but will happily parrot the ridiculous)

Posted by: Farmer Bob at March 01, 2023 04:22 PM (trVDr)

217 They all knew it came from a leak at a Chinese lab. They all knew this by March 2020, if not sooner, and they all wanted to keep that secret from us. They wanted to keep it secret because if we were told the truth, we'd have screamed for blood.
Trump was chomping at the bit to tell us. In fact he DID tell us. But no one backed him up--because they wanted him to look like a clueless racist xenophobe

Posted by: JoeF. at March 01, 2023 04:22 PM (mR6Gs)

218 [snip]

But, The New York Times conveniently omitted that after his call with Dr. Fauci on February 1, 2020, Dr. Anderson was given a $1.88 million grant and $16.5 million in funding from NIAID, Dr. Fauci’s personal piggy bank.

Posted by: SMOD at March 01, 2023 04:07 PM (RHGPo)

----------

Fauci conspired, millions expired.

Posted by: ShainS -- Transgenderism is the Tip of the Transhumanism Spear at March 01, 2023 04:22 PM (B95fm)

219 Is this new?
Posted by: Soothsayer, the HQ's Most Respected Commenter at March 01, 2023 04:09 PM (5roHi)


HKKKKKKXXXXXWatemaaaaaalaaaah says no


I remember when it started as a virtue signalling point to adopt the "native" spelling of indigenous groups claiming independence from their "cultural oppressors" like the Misquito Coast indians in Central America declaring the spelling "Miskito"

Now if there had been support for the oppressed communities in Eastern Oregon or Norther California I would be respectful, but no

Posted by: Kindltot at March 01, 2023 04:22 PM (xhaym)

220 200: This blond in a dress does, too
https://tinyurl.com/mu6mhv7n

Posted by: CN at March 01, 2023 04:22 PM (Zzbjj)

221 This blonde in a dress has a trust problem when it comes to government officials:
https://is.gd/EwYCJO
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 01, 2023 04:20 PM (t0OGg)


I wonder if she says "like" a lot.

Posted by: spindrift at March 01, 2023 04:22 PM (h5TKJ)

222 This blonde in a dress has a trust problem when it comes to government officials:
https://is.gd/EwYCJO

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 01, 2023 04:20 PM (t0OGg)

I trust the drapes/carpet color coordination better than I trust government spokesholes.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 01, 2023 04:22 PM (PyOKD)

223
And Berenson today, stillbirths in Singapore:

https://tinyurl.com/2llfzqr2

Birth rates are dropping precipitously in all the mRNA'd countries.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz) at March 01, 2023 04:22 PM (Mzdiz)

224 206 This blonde in a dress has a trust problem when it comes to government officials:

https://is.gd/EwYCJO
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 01, 2023 04:20 PM (t0OGg)
---
That's a Barbie doll.
Posted by: Axeman at March 01, 2023 04:21 PM (krQz2)

----

"Math is hard!"

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at March 01, 2023 04:23 PM (BTgKJ)

225 Former Rep. Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.) is set to join the University of Virginia as a professor at its Center for Politics.

She'll never visit Wyoming again.

They're not worthy of her.

Posted by: The Orcs! at March 01, 2023 04:23 PM (2tUFv)

226 If they conclude it was deliberately released, it is an act of war. Notwithstanding that China has disappeared everyone involved, there are a lot of people in the U.S. and a lot of money vested in not making that conclusion. Amirite Joe, Hunter and Bill Kristol?

Posted by: Marcus T at March 01, 2023 04:23 PM (M5z+9)

227 200 This blonde in a dress has a trust problem when it comes to government officials:
https://is.gd/EwYCJO
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)


I don't think she's a true blonde. I demand proof.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 01, 2023 04:23 PM (E+05M)

228 I don't even know who these lies are for anymore

Posted by: ... at March 01, 2023 04:23 PM (w8DQ0)

229 "it is still legal for US agencies to pay for gain of function research outside of the United States. Not a single lawmaker other than ted cruz has addressed that issue.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 01, 2023 04:16 PM (uNylN)"

But okay for them to give grants to private groups, like Ecohealth alliance, who then pays for the gain of function research.

Posted by: Comrade Roboto at March 01, 2023 04:23 PM (+DS2f)

230 Fauci conspired, millions expired.
Posted by: ShainS -- Transgenderism is the Tip of the Transhumanism Spear at March 01, 2023 04:22 PM (B95fm)

Always follow the money. I miss Rush

Posted by: CN at March 01, 2023 04:23 PM (Zzbjj)

231 "Its not unlikely at all. Protocols at Chinese labs were known to be notoriously lax, which was one of the arguments Fauci ignored in funding research there.
---
What I read was it was doing level 4 research with only the care of a level 2 lab.
Posted by: Axeman at March 01, 2023 04:18 PM (krQz2)

More like level -17.

Posted by: Oldcat at March 01, 2023 04:23 PM (eoQWY)

232
Can you imagine the utter shameless Irony of appointing a billionaire to a "world hunger" program and that billionaire spends not a Nickel of her own money to buy food for world's hungry?

Posted by: Soothsayer, the HQ's Most Respected Commenter at March 01, 2023 04:23 PM (5roHi)

233 Everyone knew it was a lab leak!

Posted by: rhennigantx at March 01, 2023 04:24 PM (BRHaw)

234 201
Yes, why take a poke at china, now?
Is it because china has no need for Democrats now since china got everything they wanted already?

What's that saying?
Why Buy The Cow When You Get The Democrat For Free?

Posted by: Soothsayer, the HQ's Most Respected Commenter at March 01, 2023 04:20 PM (5roHi)

What does it matter? China will suffer no ramifications for this. Consider that this isn't being revealed as some sort of dogged investigation by our government. We're not out to solve the crime. This is CYA shit. Nothing more, nothing less.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 01, 2023 04:24 PM (KbCG3)

235 2020: The Wuhan lab theory is a racist conspiracy theory! We are so sure of this people claiming this should be imprisoned and cancelled.

2021: The Wuhan lab theory is debunked. Completely and totally

2022: Origins of COVID? Who cares. Its just COVID you know?

2023: Of course we always knew COVID came out of the Wuhan lab

Posted by: 18-1 at March 01, 2023 04:24 PM (lc5cP)

236 "The FBI has for quite some time now assessed that the origins of the pandemic are most likely a potential lab incident in Wuhan," Mr. Wray told Fox News. "

I'd like a definition for the "quite some time" in his statement. We knew they knew way back when but bringing down that Orange Tyrant was paramount to every bureaucracy.

Posted by: Fool Otto at March 01, 2023 04:24 PM (DB16e)

237 Speaking of Funerals, Jimmy the Peanut farmer still using up oxygen? Doubt I missed that news.

Posted by: Skip at March 01, 2023 04:24 PM (xhxe8)

238 The Chinese can lose 10% and be ok. They dont care.

Posted by: rhennigantx at March 01, 2023 04:25 PM (BRHaw)

239 This blonde in a dress has a trust problem when it comes to government officials:
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 01, 2023 04:20 PM


Actual elbow emphasis ... nice!

Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 01, 2023 04:25 PM (a3Q+t)

240 On the subject of blondes in dresses: https://tinyurl.com/2hrxleyz

Posted by: Axeman at March 01, 2023 04:25 PM (krQz2)

241 Labor costs in China went up five fold. That, plus the perfidity of the Chinese government meant that many corporations pulled out. The house of cards is collapsing.

Right. We had 20 years of articles touting "the emerging Chinese middle class", as if that wouldn't raise labor costs there.

Posted by: Ian S. at March 01, 2023 04:25 PM (ZGrMX)

242 "The FBI has for quite some time now assessed that the origins of the pandemic are most likely a potential lab incident in Wuhan," Mr. Wray told Fox News. "

I'd like a definition for the "quite some time" in his statement. We knew they knew way back when but bringing down that Orange Tyrant was paramount to every bureaucracy.
Posted by: Fool Otto at March 01, 2023 04:24 PM (DB16e)

Those statement have more qualifiers than the World Cup.

Posted by: Oldcat at March 01, 2023 04:25 PM (eoQWY)

243 The next shoe to drop is that there were *multiple* infectious agents released from the Wuhan lab.

I have no proof, but if true, that would be hard to explain as an accident.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at March 01, 2023 04:25 PM (72I0u)

244 "It's not unlikely at all. Protocols at Chinese labs were known to be notoriously lax,"

That's known as a diversion. Even the Chinese doctor on Tucker said there was no way it was accidental, which can be taken to mean there was adequate control.

Posted by: Marcus T at March 01, 2023 04:25 PM (M5z+9)

245 > This blonde in a dress

She's beautiful, though I do find the vast difference in skin color between her face and neck jarring.

Posted by: bonhomme at March 01, 2023 04:26 PM (eyxn4)

246 "My theory from the beginning was that the Chinese investigated reports of a new disease killing people in Wuhan, and immediately went to the lab. They discovered that it was a shitshow of mismanagement and safety violations, and they panicked. A lot of the early decisions by western leaders was because they were being told by intel agencies, "the Chinese are freaking out behind the scenes, and they seem to think that it was a bioweapon."
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at March 01, 2023 04:21 PM (wmDcS)"

I don't buy this. US agencies were informed of EcoHealth's shennanigans before this was even a blip on western media's radar. Per Fauci's email records, when they got word that sequencing showed this was EcoHealth's baby they did two things:

1. Call an emergency meeting to start torpedoing the incoming papers and arm-twisting the relevant journals
2. Notify US intelligence agencies

It's all right there. This calls for rope.

Posted by: somedood at March 01, 2023 04:26 PM (N9SfE)

247 232
Can you imagine the utter shameless Irony of appointing a billionaire to a "world hunger" program and that billionaire spends not a Nickel of her own money to buy food for world's hungry?

Posted by: Soothsayer, the HQ's Most Respected Commenter at March 01, 2023 04:23 PM (5roHi)

Sorry but I'm willing to give Megan McCain's mom a pass on being unwilling to share food.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 01, 2023 04:26 PM (KbCG3)

248 Livermore knew it was lab about 2 years ago.

Posted by: rhennigantx at March 01, 2023 04:26 PM (BRHaw)

249 This particular lie is proof that they lie

A. For fun

and

B. Just to keep us spinning in circles

Posted by: ... at March 01, 2023 04:26 PM (w8DQ0)

250 Those commenter who opened that this is all coming out now because things are about to hit the fan are probably correct. These people are trying to get out in front of the mess in Ukraine, further revelations in Twitter files and what may come from 1/6 tapes among other things. FBI just leaked that the Mar
a Lago raid was pushed by DOJ not Fbi. Covering their asses

Posted by: Smell the Glove at March 01, 2023 04:26 PM (EJD5B)

251 Pointing out this fact (that Covid came from a lab) got me shadow-banned on Facebook in 2020. Best thing that ever happened to me, b/c it gave me the final push to give it up and tell all my family they could find other ways to contact me b/c I was done there.

It's one thing to not pay me for my content and news...it's another to shadow ban me and have my friend tell me that's what happened as she got red flags and blocked notices on my posts...I never knew I was being shadow-banned til she told me...

Posted by: Nova Local at March 01, 2023 04:26 PM (exHjb)

252 SNL was occassionally funny. Mocking news desks -

https://youtu.be/nWMp_z7Jnxw

Posted by: Chuck Martel at March 01, 2023 04:26 PM (fs1hN)

253 "Just like Kiev, we are now being TOLD Turkey has a new fake spelling. It's, get this, Turkiye, with the stupid umlauts over the u."

Posted by: Zek


I heard about that from a guy who lived in Sverige.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 01, 2023 04:27 PM (lTGtQ)

254 >>240 On the subject of blondes in dresses: https://tinyurl.com/2hrxleyz
Posted by: Axeman

That should require a trip to the barrel.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 01, 2023 04:27 PM (E+05M)

255 Wait until everyone finds out who really killed Nicole and Ron.

Posted by: ... at March 01, 2023 04:27 PM (w8DQ0)

256 "I don't even know who these lies are for anymore

Posted by: ... at March "


Excellent point.

Posted by: eleven at March 01, 2023 04:27 PM (iziT8)

257 "It's not unlikely at all. Protocols at Chinese labs were known to be notoriously lax,"

That's known as a diversion. Even the Chinese doctor on Tucker said there was no way it was accidental, which can be taken to mean there was adequate control.
Posted by: Marcus T at March 01, 2023 04:25 PM (M5z+9)

Or that she doesn't know what goes on in her lab, which is likely, or is lying to blame it on someone besides her self, also pretty likely.

The failures of lab security were found and noted years before Wuhan outbreak on other research and were endemic.

Posted by: Oldcat at March 01, 2023 04:28 PM (eoQWY)

258 Covid19 wasn't "leaked" and it wasn't just China. Our own military proudly posts videos like this on Youtube. This was from the TRADOC Military conference...

https://www.bitchute.com/video/G2vjTQg1gGlp/

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at March 01, 2023 04:28 PM (+my1P)

259 They played the same script in Benghazi. The media knew, but they had been briefed that the release of the truth would compromise national security.

That used to not matter to the media, and many argued it could not matter in a free society (EG Pentagon Papers.)

Now the media wants to be in the club of the "elite" so they play by those rules.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at March 01, 2023 04:28 PM (72I0u)

260 243 The next shoe to drop is that there were *multiple* infectious agents released from the Wuhan lab.


there were absolutely multiple releases. Ive been waiting for a new one to come out; maybe the operation is finally truly over (for whatever reason)

Posted by: BlackOrchid at March 01, 2023 04:28 PM (w0NJk)

261 China's economy was faltering at the time and the U.S. was uniquely thriving. In fact before the release of COVID we were facing unprecedented economic gains with no end in sight. We were also focused on moving China out of markets and decreasing our reliability on them.

Now, ask yourself that question again. "Was the release accidental or deliberate from a lab controlled by the Chinese military and intelligence apparatus?"
Posted by: Marcus T at March 01, 2023 04:14 PM (M5z+9)

Now. Tie this in with the DC deep state that also hated Trump's successes. And it's been long known that DC has been in the Chicom's pocket (looking at you, turtle).

I stand by my statement that all of this was a coordinated op.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at March 01, 2023 04:29 PM (BdMk6)

262 She looks Ukranian. I'd better stand behind her.

Posted by: wth at March 01, 2023 04:29 PM (v0R5T)

263 There was a hack/information release in...2021? From the DoD that claimed;

1) COVID came from the WIV
2) The clot shot doesn't stop the spread of COVID
3) IVM is an effective treatment for COVID

And at the time all three of those things were considered completely false by the FNM.

Outside of maybe #3 though...that's now all "everyone knows that"

Posted by: 18-1 at March 01, 2023 04:29 PM (lc5cP)

264 The Chinese woman Tucker had on believes it was deliberate release, but maybe they did not realize how virulent it would be.

So they were (perhaps?) willing to infect their own city while a million or more were home for the holidays, then send them around the world to spread it (while not allowing travel from Wuhan to other parts of China).

Sound like something "Unlimited Warfare" China would certainly do.
Posted by: illiniwek at March 01, 2023 04:18 PM (Cus5s)


Do you remember back in early 2020, before March where the researchers were saying there were two versions of Covid floating around, the S and L according to specific proteins, and one was far more dangerous than the other?
I always wondered what happened with that line of research

Posted by: Kindltot at March 01, 2023 04:29 PM (xhaym)

265 Disney has released the first trailer for its new, live-action movie Peter Pan and Wendy and the results are as woke as you would expect, with a diverse cast and girls as members of the Lost Boys.

Posted by: SMOD at March 01, 2023 04:29 PM (RHGPo)

266 FBI just leaked that the Mar
a Lago raid was pushed by DOJ not Fbi. Covering their asses

Posted by: Smell the Glove at March 01, 2023 04:26 PM (EJD5B)

Same game they always play. They all blame each other yet they are all guilty and you can't pin anyone down. Classic mob tactic.

Posted by: ... at March 01, 2023 04:29 PM (w8DQ0)

267 I'd like a definition for the "quite some time" in his statement. We knew they knew way back when but bringing down that Orange Tyrant was paramount to every bureaucracy.

Another bingo.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 01, 2023 04:29 PM (Xrfse)

268 Maybe we should ask the people of Norge.

Posted by: Thomas Paine

They might ask the residents of Suomi.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 01, 2023 04:18 PM (lTGtQ)
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Or the residents of France.

...

Dang.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at March 01, 2023 04:29 PM (2hlEI)

269 Don't look now but the Russian army, the same one people say was getting their butts kicked, is about to have a major victory in Ukraine.



Posted by: Archer at March 01, 2023 04:30 PM (gmo/4)

270 Labor costs in China went up five fold. That, plus the perfidity of the Chinese government meant that many corporations pulled out. The house of cards is collapsing.

Right. We had 20 years of articles touting "the emerging Chinese middle class", as if that wouldn't raise labor costs there.
Posted by: Ian S. at March 01, 2023 04:25 PM (ZGrMX)

Everyone should have known of the perfidy of the CCP from day one, I certainly did. I've been waiting for all the shoes to drop on this misadventure since it all started in the nineties.

Posted by: Oldcat at March 01, 2023 04:30 PM (eoQWY)

271 >> 183 China had better not sell arms to Ukraine, or
>> we'll come out with other revelations.

That's not the plan. China is complaining that US warmongering has 'forced' them to sell arms to Russia. Western sanctions greatly slow Russia's ability to replace destroyed tanks, artillery, missiles, and aircraft.

Posted by: 40 Miles North at March 01, 2023 04:30 PM (uWF4x)

272 China's economy was faltering at the time and the U.S. was uniquely thriving. In fact before the release of COVID we were facing unprecedented economic gains with no end in sight. We were also focused on moving China out of markets and decreasing our reliability on them.

Now, ask yourself that question again. "Was the release accidental or deliberate from a lab controlled by the Chinese military and intelligence apparatus?"
Posted by: Marcus T at March 01, 2023 04:14 PM (M5z+9)
_________________

I don't think they did it on purpose; rather, I suspect it was just traditional Third World bungling. I do think, however, that once it got out, they let the virus spread to other countries so that they wouldn't be disadvantaged economically with respect to those other countries (in this case, us).

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 01, 2023 04:31 PM (YqDXo)

273 Wow, would you look at all the rats coming off those ships!

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at March 01, 2023 04:31 PM (ZSK0i)

274 Disney has released the first trailer for its new, live-action movie Peter Pan and Wendy and the results are as woke as you would expect, with a diverse cast and girls as members of the Lost Boys.

With all due respect, I don't give a rat's ass.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 01, 2023 04:31 PM (Xrfse)

275 Trump was right. AGAIN!!!

Posted by: LASue at March 01, 2023 04:31 PM (Ed8Zd)

276 China's economy was faltering at the time and the U.S. was uniquely thriving. In fact before the release of COVID we were facing unprecedented economic gains with no end in sight. We were also focused on moving China out of markets and decreasing our reliability on them.

Now, ask yourself that question again. "Was the release accidental or deliberate from a lab controlled by the Chinese military and intelligence apparatus?"
Posted by: Marcus T at March 01, 2023 04:14 PM (M5z+9)
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If the release was intentional, it likely had nothing to do with us. Look at it now. China is butt-fucked. They wrecked the domestic environment over COVID. They gained nothing internationally. Their saber-rattling over it cost them Australian coal and triggered an energy crisis. Foreign trade firms are pulling out of China at an accelerating rate. China got screwed.

If the release was intentional, I'd be much more inclined to look internally, specifically at Hong Kong.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 01, 2023 04:31 PM (t0OGg)

277 I got your lab leak right here.

Posted by: Gooning Gary at March 01, 2023 04:31 PM (dfz97)

278 Just like Kiev, we are now being TOLD Turkey has a new fake spelling. It's, get this, Turkiye, with the stupid umlauts over the u.


Like the apostrophe in Hawai'i

Posted by: Hands at March 01, 2023 04:31 PM (786Ro)

279 Don't look now but the Russian army, the same one people say was getting their butts kicked, is about to have a major victory in Ukraine.

Posted by: Archer at March 01, 2023 04:30 PM (gmo/4)
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It's almost like nothing is true if the media says it.

Posted by: Axeman at March 01, 2023 04:32 PM (krQz2)

280 China is complaining that US warmongering has 'forced' them to sell arms to Russia. Western sanctions greatly slow Russia's ability to replace destroyed tanks, artillery, missiles, and aircraft.

Posted by: 40 Miles North




The longest supply chain in the world is oil imported into China. Guess who really needs Russia.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 01, 2023 04:32 PM (lTGtQ)

281 O/T -- just heard that as a result of a Judicial Watch (an organization my wife and I financially support) lawsuit against -- and now settled with -- Los Angeles County from 2019, that county was forced to clean up its voter rolls.

They've eliminated over 1.5 million "people." Further confirming my suspicion that Trump likely won California in 2020 ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Transgenderism is the Tip of the Transhumanism Spear at March 01, 2023 04:32 PM (zoXTr)

282 258 Covid19 wasn't "leaked" and it wasn't just China. Our own military proudly posts videos like this on Youtube. This was from the TRADOC Military conference...

https://www.bitchute.com/video/G2vjTQg1gGlp/
Posted by: SMH


The presenter is saying "drugs," "Chemicals," etc. But all I hear is "woke", "faggotry," "blm", marxism,....

THis is exactly what they are doing but not with drugs or infectious agents, but with mind viruses.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at March 01, 2023 04:32 PM (72I0u)

283 FBI just leaked that the Mar a Lago raid was pushed by DOJ not Fbi. Covering their asses.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at March 01, 2023 04:26 PM (EJD5B)
_________________

The rats are all turning on each other. Name names, a-holes.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 01, 2023 04:32 PM (YqDXo)

284 Don't look now but the Russian army, the same one people say was getting their butts kicked, is about to have a major victory in Ukraine.

Posted by: Archer at March 01, 2023 04:30 PM (gmo/4)

We want our money back.

Posted by: U.S. taxpayers at March 01, 2023 04:32 PM (v0R5T)

285 Don't look now but the Russian army, the same one people say was getting their butts kicked, is about to have a major victory in Ukraine.



Posted by: Archer at March 01, 2023 04:30 PM (gmo/4)

They have been occupying 25 percent of the Ukraine, and the industrial part of it at that for nearly a year now. Rooting them out of towns they've been fortifying for 8 years is time consuming, but sure.

Posted by: Oldcat at March 01, 2023 04:33 PM (eoQWY)

286 And now Chuckie Schumer is screeching about shutting down Fox because Tucker and others are perpetrating the "Big Lie" that the election in 2020 was stolen..... Uh Oh... Must be close to some incriminating news regarding that....

Posted by: It's me donna at March 01, 2023 04:33 PM (bs+z0)

287 200 This blonde in a dress has a trust problem when it comes to government officials:
https://is.gd/EwYCJO
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 01, 2023 04:20 PM (t0OGg)

I like everything about her

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 01, 2023 04:33 PM (xcxpd)

288 This thing is bigger than nation-states.

Posted by: Gooning Gary at March 01, 2023 04:34 PM (dfz97)

289 55 degF and fair skies here in the Shithole. Naturally, folx are celebrating by cruising around shooting at each other. Spring has sprung.

Posted by: Lithiated gp For Pep at March 01, 2023 04:34 PM (MvF+J)

290 200 This blonde in a dress has a trust problem when it comes to government officials:
https://is.gd/EwYCJO
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

brb in 8 hours.

Posted by: Gooning Gary at March 01, 2023 04:35 PM (dfz97)

291 I agree with the speculation of Steve Deace and Hans Mahncke:

Steve Deace (@SteveDeaceShow)
Correct, as I said in yesterday’s Overtime, China is now openly aligning with Russia therefore they’re not as eager to cover for their sugar daddy as they once were.

Hans Mahncke (@HansMahncke)
This tweet would not exist without the intelligence community's green light. Nothing has changed in terms of the evidence. Anyone with a functioning brain knew from day one that the virus almost certainly came out of the Wuhan lab. What's changed is China's geopolitical position.

https://bit.ly/3y9vHNH

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at March 01, 2023 04:35 PM (Do5/p)

292 The government's recent flip flops on the cause of the Wuhan Flu , the efficacy of the stupid masks, and the effect /lack of effect of the clot shot make me wonder how long until they admit the 2020 election was full of fraud.

Posted by: LASue at March 01, 2023 04:35 PM (Ed8Zd)

293 "The failures of lab security were found and noted years before Wuhan outbreak on other research and were endemic.
Posted by: Oldcat at March 01, 2023 04:28 PM (eoQWY)"

First, I don't believe any of these people. They all have something to hide, and I truly believe what happened is a lot more sinister, insidious and coordinated. I also wonder how she got out when the Chinese were pretty much disappearing anyone involved, whether they thought they would turn or not.

That said, there were other sources who stated the security was adequate and enough to prevent a release and that previous failures were corrected.

But I don't believe any of these people. The whole things stinks. Everyone involved got something out of this. China got a chance to recover their economy by killing everyone else's. They stopped the run on their economy by winning independence. In many western economies they gained authoritarian control over democratic societies and civil liberties that was unprecedented and still has not been reversed. In fact one could argue, materially, it gave Democrats a chance to take over the government and use it for nefarious, undemocratic, unconstitutional means.

Posted by: Marcus T at March 01, 2023 04:35 PM (M5z+9)

294 "Just like Kiev, we are now being TOLD Turkey has a new fake spelling. It's, get this, Turkiye, with the stupid umlauts over the u."

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My daughter lives in Istanbul. That is the weird way it's spelled when using the western alphabet. We didn't used to care how they spelled it over there but that is racist thinking nowadays.

Posted by: Just Lily at March 01, 2023 04:35 PM (QXR/T)

295
If the release was intentional, I'd be much more inclined to look internally, specifically at Hong Kong.
Posted by: Joe Mannix


Nah, dog. They use bullets to handle that. Bullets and facial recognition and the threat that if you protest you will never work again.

That was the plan - to create a worldwide crisis that only they had the technology and control to deal with. They failed, but if they had a plan, that was it. (IMHOP)

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at March 01, 2023 04:35 PM (72I0u)

296 On the subject of blondes in dresses: https://tinyurl.com/2hrxleyz
Posted by: Axeman at March 01, 2023 04:25 PM

Bastage!

Posted by: Minnfidel at March 01, 2023 04:35 PM (GwxCX)

297 I'd bet money that we're funding the same type of GoF research in Ukraine, and probably a few other places as well. The US is up to it's neck in this shit as a co-conspirator with China. Everyone knows it and now it's mad scramble to CYA and a game of who can point the finger of blame in the court of world opinion.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at March 01, 2023 04:35 PM (+2RzF)

298 Top Democrats demand Rupert Murdoch stop Fox News hosts from spreading 2020 election lies

The top Democrats in the House and Senate have written to Fox News owner Rupert Murdoch, demanding he stop the network from perpetuating Donald Trump’s lie that the 2020 election was stolen from him.

“As noted in your deposition released yesterday, Tucker Carlson, Sean Hannity, Laura Ingraham, and other Fox News personalities knowingly, repeatedly, and dangerously endorsed and promoted the Big Lie that Donald Trump won the 2020 presidential election. Though you have acknowledged your regret in allowing this grave propaganda to take place, your network hosts continue to promote, spew, and perpetuate election conspiracy theories to this day,” reads the letter from Senate majority leader Chuck Schumer and House minority leader Hakeem Jeffries.

Posted by: SMOD at March 01, 2023 04:35 PM (RHGPo)

299 It's, get this, Turkiye, with the stupid umlauts over the u.

Time to start thinking about upgrading your membership to gain umlaut privileges.

Upgrade or be considered a Jivetürkiye, folks.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 01, 2023 04:36 PM (a3Q+t)

300 China is complaining that US warmongering has 'forced' them to sell arms to Russia. Western sanctions greatly slow Russia's ability to replace destroyed tanks, artillery, missiles, and aircraft.

Posted by: 40 Miles North


They wish - their idiot sanctions have harmed the West far more than Russia. Even the Russians are surprised that they have done so well.

Just mark any article that mentions sanctions as effective as another cover-the-ass lie. Sanctions were supposed to be the war winner, the Ukrainians were to pick up the pieces.

Oops.

Posted by: Oldcat at March 01, 2023 04:37 PM (eoQWY)

301 293 "The failures of lab security were found and noted years before Wuhan outbreak on other research and were endemic.
Posted by: Oldcat

Turns out, the whole lab was made of Chinesium.
Who'ld a thunk it?

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at March 01, 2023 04:37 PM (72I0u)

302 The longest supply chain in the world is oil imported into China. Guess who really needs Russia.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 01, 2023 04:32 PM


And I don't get that. China has some of the largest coal deposits of any country on the planet and could convert their economy to coal liquificaiton on an industrial scale very quickly and not be dependent on anyone else for oil supplies but they don't do it.


It isn't that hard, heck the Germans did it for the last 18-24 months of WWII and didn't break a sweat converting from oil to coal.


It's almost like they want to deplete the resources of other nations before they use their stuff up.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 01, 2023 04:37 PM (uNylN)

303 My daughter lives in Istanbul. That is the weird way it's spelled when using the western alphabet. We didn't used to care how they spelled it over there but that is racist thinking nowadays.
Posted by: Just Lily at March 01, 2023 04:35 PM (QXR/T)
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It's nobody's business but the Turks.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at March 01, 2023 04:37 PM (2hlEI)

304 add to the list of recent government flip flops: Hunter Biden's laptop.

Posted by: LASue at March 01, 2023 04:37 PM (Ed8Zd)

305 >> On the subject of blondes in dresses:

That right there is a crime agin' humanity.

I saw a meme the other day with Tank Abrams and that Levine thing together. Caption read "Fat and Trans Fat".

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz) at March 01, 2023 04:37 PM (Mzdiz)

306 As I said weeks ago the next republican president should dump the entire FBI database onto the web,after getting undercovers out of harms way. Nuke it from orbit so to sat. The DOJ database as well

Posted by: Smell the Glove at March 01, 2023 04:37 PM (EJD5B)

307 Don't look now but the Russian army, the same one people say was getting their butts kicked, is about to have a major victory in Ukraine.

I've been seeing stories from the western press prepping for the Ukes to abandon Bakmut.

Since they are press ganging teen boys on the streets now I suspect the manpower issue is now critical - which is probably also why lil 'Z is now demanding we send our sons and daughters to die in Ukraine.

Posted by: 18-1 at March 01, 2023 04:38 PM (lc5cP)

308 1.5 min video, Twatter link.
How do we know covid came from a lab?
https://tinyurl.com/2sm4f5y6
From yesterday.

Posted by: Fool Otto at March 01, 2023 04:38 PM (DB16e)

309 You can't keep a good man down! Nor, apparently, can you keep a bad "man" down.

The FBI is investigating the case of Biden's non-binary luggage lover, Sam Brinton, after the claim that he stole another suitcase from a Tanzanian fashion designer

https://bit.ly/3ml8Qft

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Not a Real Simulation at March 01, 2023 04:38 PM (FVME7)

310 Nah, dog. They use bullets to handle that. Bullets and facial recognition and the threat that if you protest you will never work again.

That was the plan - to create a worldwide crisis that only they had the technology and control to deal with. They failed, but if they had a plan, that was it. (IMHOP)
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at March 01, 2023 04:35 PM (72I0u)
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I am not at all convinced of that yet. It's all speculation, but if they did it on purpose to harm other countries (which I think they did encourage, but not as a part of some initial plan), they wouldn't have turfed the home team at the same time.

Personally, I think the leak was probably an accident, and then they tried to cover that up while capitalizing on it, then it got totally out of hand.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 01, 2023 04:38 PM (t0OGg)

311 It's nobody's business but the Turks.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at March 01, 2023 04:37 PM (2hlEI)

Why they changed it I can't say, I guess they just liked it better that way.....

Posted by: It's me donna at March 01, 2023 04:39 PM (bs+z0)

312 Over/under on when Jim Jordan starts spiking his hair with the gel?

Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 01, 2023 04:39 PM (E+05M)

313 The top Democrats in the House and Senate have written to Fox News owner Rupert Murdoch, demanding he stop the network from perpetuating Donald Trump’s lie that the 2020 election was stolen from him.



They sure are upset about an election that was the cleanest in history.

I guess the fact that a majority of Americans believe it was fraudulent isn't such fake news after all.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 01, 2023 04:39 PM (lTGtQ)

314 I'd bet money that we're funding the same type of GoF research in Ukraine, and probably a few other places as well. The US is up to it's neck in this shit as a co-conspirator with China. Everyone knows it and now it's mad scramble to CYA and a game of who can point the finger of blame in the court of world opinion.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at March 01, 2023 04:35 PM (+2RzF)

Absolutely true. Victoria Newland said it in front of Congress that Putin taking over the labs in U-land would be a Bad. Thing.

And they were studying nice peaceful things like Anthrax and Ebola. And according to reports coming out of Russia, using their own staffers as test subjects and letting them go home.

Posted by: Oldcat at March 01, 2023 04:39 PM (eoQWY)

315 One could almost be forgiven for suspecting that that that this was yet another Noble Lie that our Priests of Permissible Knowledge created for us, telling us that it sprung like a miracle from nature, from a bat that somehow migrated 1200 miles to...

Jon Stewart said what most of us have been thinking since Spring 2020 with this righteous rant (though would have been nice of him to take this stand 3 years ago...):

https://bit.ly/3xWJIya

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at March 01, 2023 04:39 PM (Do5/p)

316 Remember when the majority of the vaxxed said the Unvaxxed should be thrown in concentration camps and have their children taken away and forcibly sterilized... and how few vaxxed vocally disagreed.

I damn sure do and so to others.

Posted by: Gooning Gary at March 01, 2023 04:39 PM (dfz97)

317 285 Don't look now but the Russian army, the same one people say was getting their butts kicked, is about to have a major victory in Ukraine.

there are no major victories in Ukraine

only minor defeats

Posted by: REDACTED at March 01, 2023 04:40 PM (us2H3)

318 “As noted in your deposition released yesterday, Tucker Carlson, Sean Hannity, Laura Ingraham, and other Fox News personalities knowingly, repeatedly, and dangerously endorsed and promoted the Big Lie that Donald Trump won the 2020 presidential election. Though you have acknowledged your regret in allowing this grave propaganda to take place, your network hosts continue to promote, spew, and perpetuate election conspiracy theories to this day,” reads the letter from Senate majority leader Chuck Schumer and House minority leader Hakeem Jeffries.
Posted by: SMOD at March 01, 2023 04:35 PM (RHGPo)
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Schumer talking about "grave propaganda" is a hoot and a half.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 01, 2023 04:40 PM (t0OGg)

319 Ukrainian military unit named after Boris Johnson 'is wiped out by Wagner troops', the Russian mercenaries claim

Ooops...

Posted by: The Orcs! at March 01, 2023 04:40 PM (2tUFv)

320 Like the apostrophe in Hawai'i
Posted by: Hands

Is that real? KlownWorld.


Blonde dame has me thinking of the word saddle for some reason.

Posted by: micky at March 01, 2023 04:40 PM (3byMq)

321 O/T -- just heard that as a result of a Judicial Watch (an organization my wife and I financially support) lawsuit against -- and now settled with -- Los Angeles County from 2019, that county was forced to clean up its voter rolls.

They've eliminated over 1.5 million "people." Further confirming my suspicion that Trump likely won California in 2020 ...
Posted by: ShainS -- Transgenderism is the Tip of the Transhumanism Spear at March 01, 2023 04:32 PM (zoXTr)


Now here is an idea: Kim Gardener is being removed via a charge of Quo Warranto: in that she is not performing the duties of her office as assigned.
Would this fit any action against a county elections officer who refuses to clean up the voters' rolls?
IIRC the taxpayers are considered to be interested party in a Quo Warranto suit.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 01, 2023 04:40 PM (xhaym)

322 hell, Bubba an' me made that Covid stuff out behind Old Mama's house while we was waitin' for parts for the truck

Posted by: Miklosian pandemics at March 01, 2023 04:40 PM (2hexI)

323
Yep, Mar 1st is the first day of meteorological spring. Astronomical spring begins on the equinox, Mar 20, 21:24 Zulu. That will be 5:24PM, EDT, as we'll have switched to DST by then.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz) at March 01, 2023 04:40 PM (Mzdiz)

324 It's almost like they want to deplete the resources of other nations before they use their stuff up.

Posted by: Mister Scott


Bingo.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 01, 2023 04:40 PM (lTGtQ)

325 I'm no bitch for the Uke's and I definitely think we should not give another dime to those pukes, it Russia ain't doing as good as they say they are. They are losing a lot of armor, most recently to mines and there are other places where they are losing battles in a big way. Even the Wagner Group guys are bitching because they are losing men due to Russias inability or protect them. Right now it's a slugfest being fought, as always, by everyday citizens determined to defend their homeland.

Posted by: Marcus T at March 01, 2023 04:41 PM (M5z+9)

326 It's almost like they want to deplete the resources of other nations before they use their stuff up.

Posted by: Mister Scott


Well, also, they aren't the most technologically competent country out there.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 01, 2023 04:41 PM (lTGtQ)

327 *forcibly vaxxed*

Posted by: Gooning Gary at March 01, 2023 04:41 PM (dfz97)

328 They sure are upset about an election that was the cleanest in history.

I guess the fact that a majority of Americans believe it was fraudulent isn't such fake news after all.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 01, 2023 04:39 PM (lTGtQ)

They could've put all this to rest and embarrassed the fuck out of Trump by providing a full audit of the election.

I guess they're just such good guys they would rather not spike the football.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 01, 2023 04:42 PM (KbCG3)

329 And I don't get that. China has some of the largest coal deposits of any country on the planet and could convert their economy to coal liquificaiton on an industrial scale very quickly and not be dependent on anyone else for oil supplies but they don't do it. ...
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 01, 2023 04:37 PM (uNylN)
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Chinese coal is mostly in the interior and the quality of Chinese coal is pretty bad. There is a reason they import so much thermal coal from Australia (well, did import it, before Xi decided to try to muscle Australia) for their power infrastructure.

It could be gassified, but it would be monumentally inefficient, they would have to build power infrastructure to do it, and transport from a lot of the coal-rich areas isn't great.

I imagine that's being held as an, "oh shit, there are no other choices at all, ever" option.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 01, 2023 04:42 PM (t0OGg)

330 The government's recent flip flops on the cause of the Wuhan Flu , the efficacy of the stupid masks, and the effect /lack of effect of the clot shot make me wonder how long until they admit the 2020 election was full of fraud.

I don't think they can let go of that one. But they don't really need to at this point do they? The FNM will publicly acknowledge:

1) Voting rules were changed illegally at the last minute
2) Voting rates in the contested states all exploded after that change, reaching 90% in some states (literally unheard of in the US)
3) Vote security was non-existent for those mail in ballots. And we know far more ballots have no verification to be legitimate then Biden's nominal victory.

The fall back I've seen though is;

1) We had to switch to mail in voting because of the WuFlu
2) You can't prove those questionable ballots were for Biden by enough of a margin to change the results

Posted by: 18-1 at March 01, 2023 04:42 PM (lc5cP)

331 They are so cool that they knew it was a lab leak before it was a lab leak before it was a lab leak.

Posted by: Diesel Jones, Biologist to the Stars at March 01, 2023 04:42 PM (Vu7A1)

332 Social Distancing FAKE
Mask FAKE
Shots FAKE
Intubation FAKE
Stay Inside FAKE
Natural Immunity REAL
China Made REAL

Posted by: rhennigantx at March 01, 2023 04:42 PM (BRHaw)

333 Since they are press ganging teen boys on the streets now I suspect the manpower issue is now critical - which is probably also why lil 'Z is now demanding we send our sons and daughters to die in Ukraine.

Let's be fair - Z-man is only saying that our sons and daughters will have to die if Ukraine loses.

It will be at least a month before he starts demanding American troops now, now that he's initiated the conversation.

Posted by: The Orcs! at March 01, 2023 04:42 PM (2tUFv)

334 Former Rep. Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.) is set to join the University of Virginia as a professor at its Center for Politics.


I would have expected her to go back home to Wyoming to be with her people.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 01, 2023 04:43 PM (yQpMk)

335 Like the apostrophe in Hawai'i
___

Not an apostophe.

It's called an 'okina.

It's used to mark the glottal stop.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at March 01, 2023 04:43 PM (+my1P)

336 I don't even know who these lies are for anymore

Posted by: ... at March 01, 2023 04:23 PM (w8DQ0)

--------

For the future "historians" now in grad school.

"The future is known, comrade -- it's the past that keeps changing!"

Posted by: ShainS -- Transgenderism is the Tip of the Transhumanism Spear at March 01, 2023 04:43 PM (ATdHW)

337 Don't look now but the Russian army, the same one people say was getting their butts kicked, is about to have a major victory in Ukraine.

I've been seeing stories from the western press prepping for the Ukes to abandon Bakmut.

Since they are press ganging teen boys on the streets now I suspect the manpower issue is now critical - which is probably also why lil 'Z is now demanding we send our sons and daughters to die in Ukraine.
Posted by: 18-1 at March 01, 2023 04:38 PM (lc5cP)

The Russians effectively cut the last road out over the weekend. They are within half a km of one, and a km of another, with artillery able to hit both of them.

An evacuation more successful than the men running for the exits without equipment is likely not going to happen. There have been a few counterattacks to blunt the advances, none have worked and its doubtful they have many mobile reserves in the area. And if they did, mud season is arriving.

Posted by: Oldcat at March 01, 2023 04:43 PM (eoQWY)

338 They could've put all this to rest and embarrassed the fuck out of Trump by providing a full audit of the election.

I guess they're just such good guys they would rather not spike the football.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 01, 2023 04:42 PM (KbCG3)
++++
Yup. They're too classy for that.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 01, 2023 04:43 PM (t0OGg)

339 That damn Trump could screw up a wet dream!

Washington Examiner@dcexaminer
The View blames Trump's "Xenophobia" for discrediting COVID lab leak theory.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Not a Real Simulation at March 01, 2023 04:43 PM (FVME7)

340 Yep, Mar 1st is the first day of meteorological spring. Astronomical spring begins on the equinox, Mar 20, 21:24 Zulu. That will be 5:24PM, EDT, as we'll have switched to DST by then.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley

Maths.

Rules.

Posted by: Miklos enjoys hot, pickled, and signed With Her Own Hand okra at March 01, 2023 04:44 PM (2hexI)

341 39 Stephen Colbert may not be much of a thinker, but at least he's super-funny.
Posted by: ace

god, it moved

Posted by: sockamster, gator at March 01, 2023 04:44 PM (MLrvz)

342 It's nobody's business but the Turks.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at March 01, 2023 04:37 PM (2hlEI)

I guess they just liked it better that way.

Posted by: Just Lily at March 01, 2023 04:44 PM (QXR/T)

343 All those passing around the bag don't want to be the last holding it or get caught with it.

Posted by: Skip at March 01, 2023 04:44 PM (xhxe8)

344 The View blames Trump's "Xenophobia" for discrediting COVID lab leak theory.

////

Maybe you ladies are just fucking goofy

Posted by: sockamster, gator at March 01, 2023 04:44 PM (MLrvz)

345 They could've put all this to rest and embarrassed the fuck out of Trump by providing a full audit of the election.

After the contested Y2K election the Republicans in FL gave full access to the ballots to the FNM and various leftwing sources.

When they recounted the ballots they found a slight bump for Shrub.

Compare that to how the left/FNM have handled questions about the integrity of the 2020 election.

Posted by: 18-1 at March 01, 2023 04:44 PM (lc5cP)

346 @dcexaminer
The View blames Trump's "Xenophobia" for discrediting COVID lab leak theory.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Not a Real Simulation at March 01, 2023 04:43 PM (FVME7)
++++
Huh?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 01, 2023 04:44 PM (t0OGg)

347 After the plandemic I avoid all big box stores. They can all fuck off.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 01, 2023 04:45 PM (E+05M)

348 338 They could've put all this to rest and embarrassed the fuck out of Trump by providing a full audit of the election.

I guess they're just such good guys they would rather not spike the football.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 01, 2023 04:42 PM (KbCG3)

++++
Yup. They're too classy for that.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 01, 2023 04:43 PM (t0OGg)

Was nice of them to not similarly embarrass Kari Lake.

And I appreciate how hard they're working to ensure those J6ers aren't painted into a further negative light.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 01, 2023 04:45 PM (KbCG3)

349 Did Milley know the virus was being released at the world military games?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at March 01, 2023 04:45 PM (A/nOj)

350 Schumer spews.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at March 01, 2023 04:45 PM (44ww/)

351 My daughter lives in Istanbul. That is the weird way it's spelled when using the western alphabet. We didn't used to care how they spelled it over there but that is racist thinking nowadays.
Posted by: Just Lily at March 01, 2023 04:35 PM (QXR/T)


I will get interested when they start insisting that Vietnamese place names start being done with all the funny marks too.

Thủ Đức is lovely this time of year. Too bad no one can type that.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 01, 2023 04:45 PM (xhaym)

352 2) You can't prove those questionable ballots were for Biden by enough of a margin to change the results
____

And we can't prove it because inquiries were shut down.

And why isn't the burden of proof on those that f'd with the election rules instead?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at March 01, 2023 04:45 PM (fs1hN)

353 It could be gassified, but it would be monumentally inefficient, they would have to build power infrastructure to do it, and transport from a lot of the coal-rich areas isn't great.

I imagine that's being held as an, "oh shit, there are no other choices at all, ever" option.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 01, 2023 04:42 PM (t0OGg)

Russia and China are fast tracking construction of Gas pipelines across the border there, and there might be one or two already. After all Europe doesn't get it any more.

Posted by: Oldcat at March 01, 2023 04:45 PM (eoQWY)

354 Top Democrats demand Rupert Murdoch stop Fox News hosts from spreading 2020 election lies
_________________

Demand? Who the hell are they to demand anything?

For my part, I demand that all the top Democrats resign forthwith for wholesale treason.

We'll see which demands, if any, get observed.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 01, 2023 04:45 PM (YqDXo)

355 Prof Cheney teaching stabbing political allies in the back 101.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at March 01, 2023 04:46 PM (EJD5B)

356 339 That damn Trump could screw up a wet dream!

Washington Examiner@dcexaminer
The View blames Trump's "Xenophobia" for discrediting COVID lab leak theory.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Not a Real Simulation at March 01, 2023 04:43 PM (FVME7)

Ah

'It's just that son of a bitch Nixon and this damn war!'

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 01, 2023 04:46 PM (CsVWE)

357 Former Rep. Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.) is set to join the University of Virginia as a professor at its Center for Politics.

I would have expected her to go back home to Wyoming to be with her people.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 01, 2023 04:43 PM (yQpMk)

-------

I was hoping she'd spend more time with her father ... out hunting.

Posted by: ShainS -- Transgenderism is the Tip of the Transhumanism Spear at March 01, 2023 04:46 PM (ATdHW)

358 Eh, that's one battle and the Russians have not proven thy can successfully hold any ground. Methinks it's going to be a lot of stalemates and slugfests with nobody winning.

Posted by: Marcus T at March 01, 2023 04:46 PM (M5z+9)

359 AKAB

https://bit.ly/3EIGGSb

Posted by: bonhomme at March 01, 2023 04:46 PM (eyxn4)

360 Like the apostrophe in Hawai'i
___

Not an apostophe.

It's called an 'okina.

It's used to mark the glottal stop.
Posted by: SMH

Fried okra musubi in Okina

Posted by: Miklos will bring the Spam at March 01, 2023 04:46 PM (2hexI)

361 Jon Stewart said what most of us have been thinking since Spring 2020 with this righteous rant (though would have been nice of him to take this stand 3 years ago...):

https://bit.ly/3xWJIya


That's really good. And he successfully hijacks Colbert (who has *always* sucked, and here is trying to stop him from going against The Narrative) on his own show.

Posted by: Ian S. at March 01, 2023 04:46 PM (ZGrMX)

362 Now I know he WON

Schumer and House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries sent Rupert Murdoch a letter demanding he censor Fox News hosts.

“As noted in your deposition released yesterday, Tucker Carlson, Sean Hannity, Laura Ingraham, and other Fox News personalities knowingly, repeatedly, and dangerously endorsed and promoted the Big Lie that Donald Trump won the 2020 presidential election. Though you have acknowledged your regret in allowing this grave propaganda to take place, your network hosts continue to promote, spew, and perpetuate elections conspiracy theories to this day,” the Democrat wrote in a letter to Rupert Murdoch referring to the Dominion lawsuit.

Posted by: rhennigantx at March 01, 2023 04:46 PM (BRHaw)

363 Demand? Who the hell are they to demand anything?

For my part, I demand that all the top Democrats resign forthwith for wholesale treason.

We'll see which demands, if any, get observed.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 01, 2023 04:45 PM (YqDXo)

I demand that every person who sat on the show trial of the J6 guys be marched to the... *types* *deletes*

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 01, 2023 04:47 PM (CsVWE)

364 And why isn't the burden of proof on those that f'd with the election rules instead?

You are correct - in any other context if an authority breaks the law, benefits from the change, and then destroys the evidence they'd be arrested, and convicted, of fraud/embezzlement/whatever.

Its only in THIS context that its ok.

Posted by: 18-1 at March 01, 2023 04:47 PM (lc5cP)

365 The View blames Trump's "Xenophobia" for discrediting COVID lab leak theory.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks



In a related story, Lizzie Borden blames her parents' murders on their constant nagging.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 01, 2023 04:47 PM (lTGtQ)

366 Top Democrats demand Rupert Murdoch stop Fox News hosts from spreading 2020 election lies


Saying there was rampant fraud in the 2020 elections without saying there was rampant fraud in the 2020 elections.

Thanks Dems!!

Posted by: Puddleglum at March 01, 2023 04:47 PM (sAmhv)

367 >>349 Did Milley know the virus was being released at the world military games?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire


That treasonous SOB should be drawn and quartered live on C-SPAN.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 01, 2023 04:47 PM (E+05M)

368
Speaking of the "multiple pathogen release theory" from Wuhan, I remember reading something about that a good while ago.

Supposedly, something else really nasty leaked out according to that, something that freaked the fuck out of them, but it didn't take off and spread. This was the real reason behind the Chicom freak out.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz) at March 01, 2023 04:47 PM (Mzdiz)

369 I was hoping she'd spend more time with her father ... out hunting.
Posted by: ShainS -- Transgenderism is the Tip of the Transhumanism Spear at March 01, 2023 04:46 PM (ATdHW)

or maybe donate her heart to him

Posted by: rhennigantx at March 01, 2023 04:47 PM (BRHaw)

370 Wow! More shoes are dropping than...

... a Taser accident at a Footlocker store!

...a convulsion at a cobblers' convention!

...an Imelda Marcos temper tantrum!

Posted by: Muldoon at March 01, 2023 04:47 PM (ykeLU)

371 along with Mattis.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 01, 2023 04:47 PM (E+05M)

372 Did Milley know the virus was being released at the world military games?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy

"games" is the relevant Term

Posted by: Miklos, Unfooled at March 01, 2023 04:47 PM (2hexI)

373 Hey, thanks, Chris Wray, for finally getting around to admitting it, you sleazy, duck-lipped, traitorous son of a bitch.

Posted by: Paco at March 01, 2023 04:48 PM (njExo)

374 ... Compare that to how the left/FNM have handled questions about the integrity of the 2020 election.
Posted by: 18-1 at March 01, 2023 04:44 PM (lc5cP)
++++
Compare that to Diebold, for that matter. In the 2000 election, there was a lot of noise about electronic voting machines in the places that were using them. Most of them were made by Diebold (the same folks who make a non-trivial number of the ATMs in the country).

Diebold addressed it head-on. The agreed to have the source code audited. The published findings, which indicated that the election was not compromised but it *could* have been due to vulnerable software. They then issued patches to correct those problems. They did all of it publicly.

Compare that to Dominion, which moved its headquarters in the middle of the night and sued. I don't think Dominion "fixed" the vote, but I do think their systems are deliberately designed to make "fixing" the vote easy to achieve by the jurisdictions that deploy the system. And they addressed none of it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 01, 2023 04:48 PM (t0OGg)

375 we're starting with a new batch of "Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous"

and our first 12 episodes are featuring the Z Man

Posted by: Zombie Robin Leach at March 01, 2023 04:48 PM (us2H3)

376 Yep, Mar 1st is the first day of meteorological spring. Astronomical spring begins on the equinox, Mar 20, 21:24 Zulu.

Punxatawney Phil has it as Mar 16th. if we're getting all scientific.

Posted by: The FBI at March 01, 2023 04:49 PM (e2onP)

377 Did Milley know the virus was being released at the world military games?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at March 01, 2023 04:45 PM (A/nOj)

Miley Cyrus > Evil Rat General Mark Milley

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 01, 2023 04:49 PM (GE8Ol)

378 If you have low confidence in the conclusion, why are you even saying it?

Posted by: Darth Randall at March 01, 2023 04:49 PM (OhaV5)

379 @344 they didn't even buy Goofy dinner

Posted by: Smell the Glove at March 01, 2023 04:49 PM (EJD5B)

380
I'm gonna have EMS on standby when Miley finally tries that Carolina Reaper okra she made.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz) at March 01, 2023 04:49 PM (Mzdiz)

381 >The View blames Trump's "Xenophobia" for discrediting COVID lab leak theory.

I think I heard "because of Trump mishandling the covid response" at least a dozen times today. Had C-Span on, the House was debating amendments. The commies have done such great thing for America and it would be so much better "but Trump."

Posted by: Fool Otto at March 01, 2023 04:49 PM (DB16e)

382 Russia and China are fast tracking construction of Gas pipelines across the border there, and there might be one or two already. After all Europe doesn't get it any more.
Posted by: Oldcat at March 01, 2023 04:45 PM (eoQWY)
++++
And Russia needs it as much as China does. Once shipping of Russian petroleum gets a lot harder (this month, IIRC), they will need to relieve pressure in the system, if nothing else.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 01, 2023 04:50 PM (t0OGg)

383 Wow! More shoes are dropping than...

... a Taser accident at a Footlocker store!

...a convulsion at a cobblers' convention!

...an Imelda Marcos temper tantrum!
Posted by: Muldoon

Russian artillery hit the Kiev Pay-n-Go

Posted by: Miklos has shoes, just doesn't use them much at March 01, 2023 04:50 PM (2hexI)

384 Supposedly, something else really nasty leaked out according to that, something that freaked the fuck out of them, but it didn't take off and spread. This was the real reason behind the Chicom freak out.
Posted by: publius,

are you sure it wasn't from me? I have been saying this in comments from the very early days in 2020.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at March 01, 2023 04:51 PM (72I0u)

385 I think I heard "because of Trump mishandling the covid response"

That's gonna be a hard one to make stick since St. Fauci was giving the recommendations

Posted by: It's me donna at March 01, 2023 04:51 PM (bs+z0)

386 Compare that to Dominion, which moved its headquarters in the middle of the night and sued. I don't think Dominion "fixed" the vote, but I do think their systems are deliberately designed to make "fixing" the vote easy to achieve by the jurisdictions that deploy the system. And they addressed none of it.

It would seem that everyone would agree that any device used for an American election should

1) Be made in America
2) Have its complete specs/source code published and opened to hacking tests with large cash rewards during the off season
3) Complete logs available after the election
4) The death penalty for any unauthorized access during election season

Posted by: 18-1 at March 01, 2023 04:51 PM (lc5cP)

387 11 Years: Andrew Breitbart’s Indelible Legacy

https://tinyurl.com/5xvcuvnf

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at March 01, 2023 04:51 PM (+my1P)

388 I'm no bitch for the Uke's and I definitely think we should not give another dime to those pukes, it Russia ain't doing as good as they say they are. They are losing a lot of armor, most recently to mines and there are other places where they are losing battles in a big way. Even the Wagner Group guys are bitching because they are losing men due to Russias inability or protect them. Right now it's a slugfest being fought, as always, by everyday citizens determined to defend their homeland.
Posted by: Marcus T at March 01, 2023 04:41 PM (M5z+9)

Russia isn't bothering to say how good they are doing, they just say what towns they take and the losses they are taking doing it.

Don't let a Twitter picture of and APC getting 'sploded mean anything. Russia hasn't even deployed much of its armor. Its useless in the Donbas fortified hills and towns for the most part. That's why groups like Wagner and Chechens have been doing most of the work in clearing towns, supported by Russian arty.

Posted by: Oldcat at March 01, 2023 04:51 PM (eoQWY)

389 "Trump was chomping at the bit to tell us. In fact he DID tell us. But no one backed him up--because they wanted him to look like a clueless racist xenophobe" Posted by: JoeF.

I can appreciate that Trump felt he had to "play the game" and keep Fauci/Cirx front and center for (some vague) political reasons. BUT while he had no (not the key RINOs or others at least) political support ... he had a thousand or more real doctors, real experts, that he could have brought forward to expose the insanity of the Fauci Swamp.

THAT would have been the "drain the swamp" move. He had too many liberals inside, including Jarvanka (rumor I heard was Ivanka pushed Scarf lady Birx, and daddy loves his little girl, wants her to be accepted?).

I think if Trump had promoted the real scientists, it was a straight forward chance to expose the frauds. Hoping he could beat the cheat failed ... and he seemed like a deer in the headlights when that toilet in Atlanta overflowed and all battle ground counts stopped.

just my 20/20 hindsight observations perhaps, but iirc, that is how I felt at the time.

Posted by: illiniwek at March 01, 2023 04:51 PM (Cus5s)

390 And why isn't the burden of proof on those that f'd with the election rules instead?

Because there are very few who, if they were to be asked, can prove they are elected. And we like it that way!

Posted by: The System at March 01, 2023 04:52 PM (CaJIi)

391 Meanwhile, in Kiev and Peking...

Posted by: Joe Mama at March 01, 2023 04:52 PM (WmGrA)

392 I'm gonna have EMS on standby when Miley finally tries that Carolina Reaper okra she made.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz) at March 01, 2023 04:49 PM (Mzdiz)

Go with milk. Or Ice cream.

It's not the WORST thing she could try.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 01, 2023 04:52 PM (CsVWE)

393 "because of Trump mishandling the covid response"
___

More ventilators!
More mobile morgues!
Universal lockdowns, except for the schmucks involved with feeding everyone!
Triple masking!
Concentration camps for the science deniers!
(I guess)

Posted by: Chuck Martel at March 01, 2023 04:52 PM (fs1hN)

394 378 If you have low confidence in the conclusion, why are you even saying it?
Posted by: Darth Randal

It's a term of art, used
- to cover your ass when people find out truth
- to warn adversaries that you might release truth
- to appease internal conflicts
- to muddy waters

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at March 01, 2023 04:52 PM (72I0u)

395 385 I think I heard "because of Trump mishandling the covid response"

That's gonna be a hard one to make stick since St. Fauci was giving the recommendations
Posted by: It's me donna at March 01, 2023 04:51 PM (bs+z0)

And they were crowing about how they were ignoring Trump.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 01, 2023 04:53 PM (CsVWE)

396 "Hollywood actor Isaiah Washington announced on Twitter he is retiring early from the entertainment industry. In ominous tones, Washington said, “he will spend his time visiting as much of the country as he can before it is overtaken by communists and socialists.”

Posted by: Fool Otto at March 01, 2023 04:53 PM (DB16e)

397 392 I'm gonna have EMS on standby when Miley finally tries that Carolina Reaper okra she made.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz) at March 01, 2023 04:49 PM (Mzdiz)

Go with milk. Or Ice cream.

It's not the WORST thing she could try.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 01, 2023 04:52 PM (CsVWE)

Using it as sex lube would be about the worst thing.

Posted by: Parade of horribles at March 01, 2023 04:53 PM (YdDJ9)

398 And Russia needs it as much as China does. Once shipping of Russian petroleum gets a lot harder (this month, IIRC), they will need to relieve pressure in the system, if nothing else.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 01, 2023 04:50 PM (t0OGg)

Why does shipping get harder? The protocols allow 'laundering' the origin of Russian oil trivially at any third location...with a cut for some big guy.

Posted by: Oldcat at March 01, 2023 04:53 PM (eoQWY)

399 You mean real doctors like Scott Atlas?

Posted by: Notsothoreau at March 01, 2023 04:53 PM (6lj/r)

400 when you se the Z man on a yacht in the Caribbean

you'll know the war is about to end

Posted by: REDACTED at March 01, 2023 04:54 PM (us2H3)

401 Don't let a Twitter picture of and APC getting 'sploded mean anything

In the early parts of the war there were endless pictures of Russian tanks/APCs destroyed posted to twitter and the FNM.

But...Russia and the Ukes use the same tanks/APCs mostly. So there is no way to tell what country a destroyed T-72 belonged to.

I think both sides took heavy armored losses early on since it is much easier to destroy a tank then ever before - if you can see it you can kill it.

Posted by: 18-1 at March 01, 2023 04:54 PM (lc5cP)

402 "Hollywood actor Isaiah Washington announced on Twitter he is retiring early from the entertainment industry. In ominous tones, Washington said, “he will spend his time visiting as much of the country as he can before it is overtaken by communists and socialists.”
Posted by: Fool Otto at March 01, 2023 04:53 PM (DB16e)
++++
Go fast. Don't delay your visits. The clock is ticking.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 01, 2023 04:54 PM (t0OGg)

403 Dammit, I still have Rum and Coca-Cola stuck in my head from last night.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 01, 2023 04:54 PM (CsVWE)

404 >That's gonna be a hard one to make stick since St. Fauci was giving the recommendations
Posted by: It's me donna at March 01, 2023 04:51 PM

If they repeat it enough... the brain-deads are gonna brain-dead. I mean, people are still wearing masks 3 years later.

Posted by: Fool Otto at March 01, 2023 04:55 PM (DB16e)

405 Why does shipping get harder? The protocols allow 'laundering' the origin of Russian oil trivially at any third location...with a cut for some big guy.
Posted by: Oldcat at March 01, 2023 04:53 PM (eoQWY)
++++
The protocols are (or at least were) scheduled to change, to block insurance for any vessel carrying Russian energy products, regardless of laundering or intermediaries.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 01, 2023 04:55 PM (t0OGg)

406
Using it as sex lube would be about the worst thing.
Posted by: Parade of horribles at March 01, 2023 04:53 PM (YdDJ9)

Oh Dear God. Uh, yeah. This would be very bad.

Eye drops.

Nasal Spray.

These would all be bad.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 01, 2023 04:55 PM (CsVWE)

407 403 Dammit, I still have Rum and Coca-Cola stuck in my head from last night.
___

Have you tried swallowing it yet?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at March 01, 2023 04:55 PM (fs1hN)

408 Hollywood actor Isaiah Washington announced on Twitter he is retiring early from the entertainment industry.

Googling says he was cancelled for being "homophobic"

Posted by: 18-1 at March 01, 2023 04:56 PM (lc5cP)

409 ...an Imelda Marcos temper tantrum!
Posted by: Muldoon at March 01, 2023 04:47 PM (ykeLU)


Mark Twain had a story in one of his travelogues about having one of the upper rooms in a hotel in Europe, and the upstairs guest started a sort of shuffling dance that lasted a while then apparently dropped a shoe. This woke him up fully and he knew that he would have to wait for the second shoe, which for some reason the guest didn't take off, but started shuffling around a bit longer before it dropped.
Then to his surpise the guest started shuffling again and DROPPED A THIRD SHOE and started shuffling again. This kept him awake in dread for each subsequent shoe that fell during a dance that lasted far into the night when he dropped asleep in sheer nervous exhaustion.
The next morning when he complained he was told that the room above his was where the bootblack for the hotel worked, polishing guests' shoes when they put them out in the corridor for the evenings.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 01, 2023 04:56 PM (xhaym)

410 Back in March Dowd said that U.S. millennials, aged 25-44, experienced a record-setting 84% increase in excess mortality during the final four months of 2021.

According to Ed Dowd, the latest numbers from August revealed an excess mortality rate of 36% for millennials.

Posted by: rhennigantx at March 01, 2023 04:57 PM (BRHaw)

411 ...a toddler having a temper tantrum at a payless shoe store.

Posted by: Archer at March 01, 2023 04:57 PM (gmo/4)

412 The Wagner Group and the Chechens are tougher, meaner and more reliable than the mainline Russian Army units. Also more expendable. Makes sense to use them.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 01, 2023 04:58 PM (/6ur0)

413 407 403 Dammit, I still have Rum and Coca-Cola stuck in my head from last night.
___

Have you tried swallowing it yet?
Posted by: Chuck Martel at March 01, 2023 04:55 PM (fs1hN)

Damn shame this hilarity happened post-400.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 01, 2023 04:58 PM (KbCG3)

414 Nood

Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 01, 2023 04:59 PM (u73oe)

415 Have you tried swallowing it yet?
Posted by: Chuck Martel at March 01, 2023 04:55 PM (fs1hN)

Well, they have been dead for around ... one of them made it to 2013! That's wonderful (although she lost one sister in '67 and the other in '95.)

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 01, 2023 04:59 PM (CsVWE)

416 Don't let a Twitter picture of and APC getting 'sploded mean anything

In the early parts of the war there were endless pictures of Russian tanks/APCs destroyed posted to twitter and the FNM.

But...Russia and the Ukes use the same tanks/APCs mostly. So there is no way to tell what country a destroyed T-72 belonged to.

I think both sides took heavy armored losses early on since it is much easier to destroy a tank then ever before - if you can see it you can kill it.
Posted by: 18-1 at March 01, 2023 04:54 PM (lc5cP)

There was one a week or so ago of a stopped Tank/APC being shelled by U artillery for some time with little jump cuts in the middle to edit out the times they fired at it and missed. Those aren't fit subjects for loss assessments.

Running tanks down the street and back causes failures and losses. These things aren't that durable even without combat.

But since the early days of the sprint to Kiev and the retirement the tank heavy elements have been stood down for more "boring" artillery and infantry slugfests, that have taken all these towns and cities so far.

Posted by: Oldcat at March 01, 2023 04:59 PM (eoQWY)

417 412 The Wagner Group and the Chechens are tougher, meaner and more reliable than the mainline Russian Army units. Also more expendable. Makes sense to use them.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 01, 2023 04:58 PM (/6ur0)

you don't happen to have their number, do you ?

Posted by: REDACTED at March 01, 2023 04:59 PM (us2H3)

418 403 Dammit, I still have Rum and Coca-Cola stuck in my head from last night.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 01, 2023 04:54 PM (CsVWE)

She said 'fine' and then in 30 seconds time, she said...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 01, 2023 04:59 PM (/6ur0)

419 Deepstate colluded with China is this biological attack on the world, but concentrated on the America that elected President Trump in 2016. They could not allow the people's will, nor could they forgive the embarrassment done to their precious hildebeast. ]So now they say they knew all along it was from a China lab. Now they will 'prove' that it was President Trump's fault. Before the primaries.

Posted by: Eromero at March 01, 2023 04:59 PM (MF3yS)

420 Wow! More shoes are dropping than...

... a Taser accident at a Footlocker store!

...a convulsion at a cobblers' convention!

...an Imelda Marcos temper tantrum!
Posted by: Muldoon

A World Cup Horseshoes Championship!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Not a Real Simulation at March 01, 2023 05:01 PM (FVME7)

421 I've been told I have the worst Dad jokes, which of course, I take as a compliment.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at March 01, 2023 05:01 PM (fs1hN)

422 Why does shipping get harder? The protocols allow 'laundering' the origin of Russian oil trivially at any third location...with a cut for some big guy.
Posted by: Oldcat at March 01, 2023 04:53 PM (eoQWY)
++++
The protocols are (or at least were) scheduled to change, to block insurance for any vessel carrying Russian energy products, regardless of laundering or intermediaries.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 01, 2023 04:55 PM (t0OGg)

Well I haven't followed this, but it is noticeable that all sanctions so far have had loopholes big enough to drive a tanker through and I'll be surprised if this one is an exception.

Posted by: Oldcat at March 01, 2023 05:02 PM (eoQWY)

423 386 "It would seem that everyone would agree that any device used for an American election should "

1) Paper Ballot
2) Blood spot from finger
3) PURPLE dyed antiseptic applied liberally.

Posted by: Next2Nothing at March 01, 2023 05:02 PM (tA1/w)

424 Joe Mannix,

"Compare that to Dominion, which moved its headquarters in the middle of the night and sued. I don't think Dominion "fixed" the vote, but I do think their systems are deliberately designed to make "fixing" the vote easy to achieve by the jurisdictions that deploy the system. And they addressed none of it."

Bingo. Dominion isn't changing the vote totals as much as providing a real time count to identify vote shortfalls. Then ballots are manufactured in the days and weeks following the elections.These ballots, along with the dubious "harvested" ballots then insure whatever outcome the deep staters and Democrats want.

The same thing happened in a presidential election in Mexico in 1988.

One of the interesting things to come out of the Arizona forensic audit was that the voting machines were connected to the internet and the logs were deleted in violation of state law.

Posted by: Ernie McCracken at March 01, 2023 05:03 PM (FW8wW)

425 Does anyone remember when Covid-19 was first isolated that there were articles on the internet describing why the virus could not have evolved zoonotically? Basically, the virus had 3 discrete changes from the original - it did not resemble the standard 10-20% mutation rate across the virus that is normally seen.

All those articles were mysteriously scrubbed within a week. I thought it was CCP/Big Tech collusion, but it was
actually CCP/Deep State/Big Tech collusion.

Posted by: 40 Miles North at March 01, 2023 05:04 PM (uWF4x)

426 Dominion goes after every accusation like it's their life or death
Because it is, finding their system as untrustworthy would be their end.
And states have that private company counting its votes.

Posted by: Skip at March 01, 2023 05:22 PM (xhxe8)

427 Woody Harrelson slams COVID Set Protocols as Nonsense, Urges Hollywood to Stop Forcing Vaccination: That's Not a Free Country

I don't think that anybody should have the right to demand that you're forced to do the testing, forced to wear the mask and forced to get vaccinated three years on. Let's be done with this nonsense. It's not fair to the crews. I don't have to wear the mask. Why should they? Why should they have to be vaccinated? How's that not up to the individual? I shouldn't be talking about this shit.

It makes me angry for the crew. The anarchist part of me, I don't feel that we should have forced testing, forced masking and forced vaccination. That's not a free country. Really, I'm talking about the crew. Because I can get out of wearing a mask. I can test less. I'm not in the same position they're in, but it's wrong. It's three years. Stop.

As an anarchist, I don't do well with mandates.


Ryan Kinel: https://bit.ly/3J4K8sP

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at March 01, 2023 05:31 PM (Do5/p)

428 Pfft. I blanked out a square the other day! (I still don't know how that happened.)

Posted by: Axeman at March 01, 2023 04:05 PM

I don't have a square to spare. I can't spare a square.

Posted by: Elaine Benes at March 01, 2023 05:40 PM (Do5/p)

429 Yes, one of MAGA's mortal enemies totally believes a theory for not any self-serving purpose or agenda whatsoever and we should totally believe the theory because he "believes" it now.

He wouldn't at all be doing this to get conservatives on board with a shooting war against Russia to serve the agenda of the Left that's totally not filled with any Hebrew people.

It is totally smart, wise and reasonable to believe this theory now that Christopher Wray "believes" it.

Posted by: It's Wednesday at March 01, 2023 06:12 PM (U9wda)

430
The virus did come from the wet market. Vendors bought dead bats left over from virus experiments at the virology institute. That bat meat is worth a lot of money.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at March 01, 2023 06:20 PM (eSwpz)

431 As long as Wray stays “in his lane” (protecting Democrats) he can say and do whatever he wants.

He and the FBI are bulletproof. The FBI’s credibility is evergreen as long as they support the Democrats.

And Wray, everyone in the FBI, and we, all know it.

It’s uplifting to know that some FBI agents are risking their careers by whistleblowing and attempting to publicize the corruption endemic in the FBI. Wish them the best.

Posted by: Dummy #43 at March 01, 2023 07:58 PM (FkMTW)

432 Here's something that I don't understand.

I say "I think that the virus was released from the lab in Wuhan"

They respond "NOOOO, the virus was natural in origin!!!"

As if that contradicts my statement.

I then try to explain, in small words, that it being natural in origin has literally nothing to do with whether or not it was released from the damn lab. The number of people that don't understand this, and are somehow conflating "natural in origin" with "couldn't have been released from the lab" is concerning.

Can you see how a perfectly natural virus, discovered in bats, that was being studied at the Wuhan lab, could have been released from said lab? The thing doesn't need to be "engineered" for it to be a lab release.

I just don't get it with some people.

Posted by: Goober at March 01, 2023 07:58 PM (Hgvgt)

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