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DeSantis "Blueprint For Florida" Video Looks a Lot Like a Presidential Campaign Video
Obviously it's a teaser trailer for a presidential run. It's below the fold.
He emphasizes keeping Florida open during the pandemic insanity. I know Trump keeps trying to turn DeSantis' greatest triumph into a weakness by calling him "Shutdown Ron," because DeSantis shut down the beaches for, I think, two weeks, but he shut down those beaches two weeks after Trump recommended general nationwide shutdowns, and a week (I think) after he rebuked Georgia Governor Brian Kemp for re-opening some bars and restaurants and entertainment venues. "I just think it's too soon," Trump said, adding to the media/leftwing chorus of scolding of the governor for risking people's lives. I've said this before: I completely sympathize with Trump's tough position here -- this was an nearly-unprecedented situation and the entire media and government was screaming at Trump to DO SOMETHING! -- but I will not abide him then turning around and claiming that "Shutdown Ron" should have shown the perfectly-sculpted Balls of Titanium that Trump himself didn't come close to showing, as far as defying the Fauci-Birx-Wallenski Axis of Evil and telling them to pound (beach) sand. Everyone was screaming at DeSantis to DO SOMETHING! too, you know -- including Trump himself. Yes, Trump tweeted a mean Twitter about reopening, but DeSantis issued executive orders to reopen. Point DeSantis. In fairness, I think Trump's idea was to rouse public opinion in favor of reopening so he could then issue his own executive orders. But... he didn't ultimately do that. DeSantis did. He reopened Florida, and he didn't bother with too much Twitter Hamlet monologuing before doing it. In more DeSantis news, he spoke with Mark Levin about proposed changes to Schedule F of the civil service rules, which would allow presidents to fire #Resistance employees in the civil service. Obviously, he's in favor of it. (Also obviously, it will never happen, alas. Even if we get a filibuster-proof Senate, Mitch McConnell, Lindsey Graham, Mitt Romney, Tom Tilis, Richard Burr, Bill Cassidy, Susan Collins and the rest of the Gang of F8cks would vote against it, in the interests of "comity" and "collegiality." "We need a house cleaning" in the civil service, DeSantis says -- first, we need a house cleaning in the Senate.) He revealed in his new book that former Disney CEO Bob Chapek complained that the wokeys at Disney pressured him into speaking out against the Parental Rights in Education bill. Which is what we all already thought."As the controversy over the Parental Rights in Education bill was coming to a head, Chapek called me. He did not want Disney to get involved, but he was getting a lot of pressure to weigh in against the bill," DeSantis writes. "We get pressured all the time," Chapek told DeSantis, according to the governor's book. "But this time is different. I haven't seen anything like this before." Chapek told shareholders that he had called DeSantis on March 9 to urge him not to sign the bill, which restricts schools from teaching gender and sexuality to children in kindergarten through third grade. Activists nicknamed it the "Don't say gay bill" despite the legislation not using those terms.Shareholders? Like from the ultrawoke BlackRock?
... According to a report from the New York Post, Chapek had privately expressed his hesitancy to involve his company in the political issues in Florida, the home of Disney World, in the months prior. But the pressure campaign within Disney and from Democrats nationwide ultimately convinced him take a stand. DeSantis, however, issued a warning: If Disney got involved with the legislation, "People like me will say, 'Gee, how come Disney has never said anything about China, where they make a fortune?'" DeSantis told Chapek. The Florida governor said if Disney stayed out of the politics, Disney would face 48 hours of outrage when the bill passed. "[And] when I sign it, you will get another 48 hours of outrage, mostly online,'" DeSantis said, adding, "Then there will be some new outrage that the woke mob will focus on and people will forget about this issue, especially considering the outrage is directed at a political-media narrative, not the actual text of the legislation itself." DeSantis wrote that Chapek and Disney "ultimately caved to leftist media and activist pressure and pressed the false narrative against the bill."When Chapek escalated by fighting the law in court -- I forgot they did that, or I didn't even know they did that -- he warned that he might escalate by stripping Disney of its special tax/governance rights over the land it owns. Which is a threat he followed through on today. Today he signed into law the measure to strip Disney of its special district tax rights and make sure Disney can't saddle taxpayers with its debts. To be honest I'm not sure how all of this works. The media covers it very superficially and I don't think I'm interested enough to do a deeper diver into tax and local rule law. His book's title -- The Courage to be Free -- is obviously super-anodyne but he's hitting two of the big traditional conservative presidential buttons. Again, it's clearly a presidential race entry/introduction book. Via David Strom at Hot Air, the media is sure acting like they're worried that DeSantis may be a threat, because they're treating him as almost as bad as, if not worse than, Trump. No one in the media is saying DeSantis is worse than Trump. No, of course not, because Trump may still be the nominee, and some would say, still is likely to be the nominee. However, they're now treating him as if he's just as bad as Trump, and setting him up for the inevitable worse than Trump if he does become the nominee. If you say, "That's silly, how could they ever say anyone is worse than Trump, after literally not metaphorically demonizing him for six years ?" Well I'd remind you that they've done this with every new Republican candidate since Nixon. But specifically, with DeSantis, they'll do it like this: "At least Trump showed that he basically liked gay people, being brave enough to be the first GOP candidate for president to endorse gay marriage! This monster DeSantis wants to literally erase gay people and literally commit genocide against trans people!!!" And they'll say: "At least Trump followed most of the advice of his covid advisers, even if he undermined them occasionally in his public statements! This monster DeSantis turned Florida into an open-air Petri dish for pathogens! He let people go out on to the beaches and stand yards from each other in the sunlight and wind where the chances of spreading anything to each other approached one in one hundred million, if not higher!!!!" Believe me, the media will find nice things to (insincerely) say about Trump. They found nice things to (insincerely) say about Reagan, Bush, McCain, and Romney. (As Bush, McCain, and Romney joined the Democrat Party, their praise became sincere, but before that, they found insincere ways to compliment them pre-transition.) Right now, the Huffington Post is saying that a man who stuck a screwdriver through the neck of a woman he didn't even know is a kinder, gentler, more decent human being than Ron DeSantis, so, given time, they could even say the same thing about the Orange Debbil Who Grabbies Duh Pusses. Oh, in addition to sticking a screwdriver through a woman's neck, he also murdered a deputy sheriff when he escaped from prison. HuffPo gives central prominence to this scumbag's execution-chamber denunciation of DeSantis as "worse" than him, implicitly blessing him as being right:
David Strom comments:
"I know I hurt people when I was young. I really messed up," Dillbeck reportedly said just before his death. "But I know Ron DeSantis has done a lot worse. He's taken a lot from a lot of people. I speak for all men, women and children. He's put his foot on our necks. Ron DeSantis and other people like him can s--k our d--s."
Florida's law, I guess, requires conviction by a unanimous jury, same as usual, but only a 2/3rds jury majority to impose the sentence of death. There's nothing in the Constitution that requires unanimity on sentence votes. (In fact, the Supreme Court has blessed even convictions on 11-1 votes, without specifying how non-unanimous a criminal jury can be before the Constitution would say it's no longer capable of rendering a conviction.) But anyway, DeSantis is worse than the murderer. He wants to "literally genocide" trans kids.
Well, I guess it's settled. DeSantis is a really bad guy if Dillbeck says so. HuffPo's proof of DeSantis' bad character is this: he signed Dillbeck's death warrant despite the fact that the man was sentenced to death by a jury that did not unanimously impose it. Some wanted a life in prison, while the majority voted for the death penalty. The law allowing this had been changed since, but DeSantis thinks that a 2/3rds majority of jurors should be enough. Dillbeck, it seems, had only made some small mistakes in his youth (he was in his mid-20s when he killed Vann), but DeSantis is the real murderer for allowing his sentence to be carried out and believing it was just.
Gov. @RonDeSantisFL just dropped this EPIC video contrasting DC's insanity with his success making Florida thrive.
— Giancarlo Sopo (@GiancarloSopo) February 26, 2023
Proud to be a Floridian — born and raised! 🌴🐊 pic.twitter.com/pCx3dFA4Ae
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They keep using this word.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, mired in filth and awfulness with Ralph Bakshi at February 27, 2023 02:58 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: doug at February 27, 2023 02:58 PM (8/lc0)
Posted by: Karine Shriller-Harridan, Sheboygan 'Action NOWW!' Chair at February 27, 2023 02:58 PM (oedLL)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 27, 2023 02:58 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: micky at February 27, 2023 02:58 PM (3byMq)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 27, 2023 02:58 PM (Zz0t1)
Well I'd remind you that they've done this with every new Republican candidate since Nixon.
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'Member Chimp Hitler?
I 'member.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, mired in filth and awfulness with Ralph Bakshi at February 27, 2023 02:59 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 27, 2023 02:59 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: Valiant at February 27, 2023 03:00 PM (cy2xC)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at February 27, 2023 03:00 PM (guGkK)
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Let's be fair here: the feds shut down no businesses.
There was nothing at the fed level to do to undo it. It was all states and localities.
Now, if Trump had fired Fauci in the middle of the fawning for St. Fauci, that'd have been some good positive action that could have made a difference.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, mired in filth and awfulness with Ralph Bakshi at February 27, 2023 03:00 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: ... at February 27, 2023 03:01 PM (AOHti)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at February 27, 2023 03:00 PM (guGkK)
*golfclap*
Gator Blasters!
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 27, 2023 03:01 PM (zZu0s)
Is the claim here that "trans kids" have a specific gene that DeSantis wants eliminated from the gene pool? Or is it just some mentally ill people want to use extreme language to shut down opposition so that they can go on promoting their own flavor of mental illness?
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at February 27, 2023 03:01 PM (Bd6X8)
Let Trump go down in flames with the presidential nomination. Desantis would be wasted there because there is no path to 270. The GOP candidate won't be allowed to win. They'll "count" for weeks before that happens.
Posted by: brak at February 27, 2023 03:02 PM (j5Tg0)
Watch any of the fawning press asking Nikster, et al how their policies would differ from Trump's. Non-answers from each and every one.
Trump and/or *volution 2024
Posted by: micky at February 27, 2023 03:02 PM (3byMq)
I will say I lean Trump as the national shame of letting a presidential election be stolen so blatantly ought to be rectified.
HOWEVER, if Desantis proves to be a better option, then he will earn my vote.
I'd love it if Trump could make Desantis his VP (Trump would have to claim a different state of residence) and hand over the reigns after 2 years, that would be my most preferred situation.
I know it won't happen, but hey, a man can dream about the chance to prevent the collapse of the greatest country the world has ever seen.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at February 27, 2023 03:02 PM (zjgNU)
Posted by: Citizen Cake at February 27, 2023 03:02 PM (CwhoI)
if he runs aginst Trump and wins
and then loses the general, he's finished
so he wil wait
Posted by: REDACTED at February 27, 2023 03:02 PM (us2H3)
Posted by: SMH at God's grace at February 27, 2023 03:02 PM (Ttrwr)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 27, 2023 03:02 PM (tkR6S)
Posted by: Skip at February 27, 2023 03:02 PM (xhxe8)
They're trying to make EVEYRONE unpalatable so voters just stay home.
Posted by: XTC at February 27, 2023 03:02 PM (UnA8+)
Concerned Man Walking.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at February 27, 2023 03:03 PM (guGkK)
Posted by: eleven at February 27, 2023 03:03 PM (iziT8)
Posted by: Ron JJ Walker DeSantis at February 27, 2023 03:03 PM (AOHti)
if he runs aginst Trump and wins
and then loses the general, he's finished
so he wil wait
Posted by: REDACTED at February 27, 2023 03:02 PM (us2H3)
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The rumors are that he'll announce in summer. We'll see.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, mired in filth and awfulness with Ralph Bakshi at February 27, 2023 03:03 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: ace at February 27, 2023 03:03 PM (C1Zwz)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 27, 2023
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I remember a comic spot for some commercial product, a cereal maybe? with a movie-type Indian spooning something from a bowl as he sits crosslegged in front of his tipi. He tastes it, makes a face, drops the bowl straight down, and mutters, "No good!" Anybody recall that? Was it for a cereal, or something else?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 27, 2023 03:03 PM (J2vNu)
Needs to be done.
Let him run in 2028.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(2YtOq) at February 27, 2023 03:04 PM (2YtOq)
I can't do that.
Posted by: eleven at February 27, 2023 03:03 PM (iziT
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Not until DeSantis denounces his previous Nickelback love.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, mired in filth and awfulness with Ralph Bakshi at February 27, 2023 03:04 PM (LvTSG)
Iron Eyes Cody was born Espera Oscar de Corti on April 3, 1904, in Kaplan in Vermilion Parish, in southwestern Louisiana, a second son of Francesca Salpietra from Sicily and her husband, Antonio de Corti from southern Italy.
He had two brothers, Joseph and Frank, and a sister, Victoria.
His parents had a local grocery store in Gueydan, Louisiana, where he grew up.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 27, 2023 03:04 PM (G8h7g)
Posted by: SMH at God's grace at February 27, 2023 03:04 PM (1+zmy)
More power to him, but I wish he and Trump would team up, that way we get 4 years of Trump, then 8 years of DeSantis. If they actually cut spending and kick ass in the American economy, we'll get right back to top of the world and stay there for a long time.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 27, 2023 03:04 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: TransitionTranny at February 27, 2023 03:04 PM (UpqHf)
I don't know but you're trying to literally erase me by asking me to specify what i'm saying
Posted by: ace at February 27, 2023 03:05 PM (C1Zwz)
Posted by: rickb223 at February 27, 2023 03:04 PM (G8h7g)
I remember it. CCR used to hold impromptu concerts out front.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at February 27, 2023 03:05 PM (guGkK)
right DeSantis owes trump everything. I think Trump is actually is dad.
Posted by: ace at February 27, 2023 03:05 PM (C1Zwz)
However, what makes us believe Trump will ever be the ruthless MF we need to shutter all the 3s?
I'm not convinced anything changes without pew, pew...
Posted by: micky at February 27, 2023 03:05 PM (3byMq)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at February 27, 2023 03:06 PM (+ZtMi)
I can't do that.
Posted by: eleven at February 27, 2023 03:03 PM (iziT
Thoughts on photoshopped Star Trek Cosplay?
https://tinyurl.com/458jkhfw
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 27, 2023 03:06 PM (zZu0s)
We'll see how this all shakes out.
Posted by: Archer at February 27, 2023 03:06 PM (gmo/4)
it's always the same crap
Posted by: ace at February 27, 2023 03:06 PM (C1Zwz)
Young man in speedo turns on the jets, leaves officer in his dust. I laughed for days over that one.
Posted by: gourmand du jour, gimpy edition at February 27, 2023 03:06 PM (jTmQV)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison"
What?!?!
Fuck that guy.
Posted by: eleven at February 27, 2023 03:06 PM (iziT8)
Except to add that, if we don't find an effective means of neutralizing the voter fraud, none of this will matter.
Posted by: Dr. T at February 27, 2023 03:06 PM (bhRsz)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 27, 2023 03:06 PM (Y5qcH)
1. COVID
2. Trump v. DeSantis internecine warfare
What to do, what to do?
Posted by: Muldoon at February 27, 2023 03:06 PM (ykeLU)
DeSantis also wants to erase black history!
Posted by: bonhomme at February 27, 2023 03:06 PM (eyxn4)
Posted by: ... at February 27, 2023 03:06 PM (AOHti)
Posted by: ace at February 27, 2023 03:05 PM (C1Zwz)
Yuge! Powerful! Luxurious Sperm!
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 27, 2023 03:06 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: DOE confirms our patented COVID bioweapon was lab-created, released by China at February 27, 2023 03:07 PM (q8U4k)
https://tinyurl.com/mu6m9enk
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at February 27, 2023 03:07 PM (eYoxG)
Then imminent domain it under the endangered species act to protect the asian snail darter and turn the whole place into a State park.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 27, 2023 03:07 PM (B/ami)
https://tinyurl.com/43x4ck3m
Doc is escorted out of board meeting after testifying to effectiveness of IVM, then the videographer is shut down by police
Posted by: kallisto at February 27, 2023 03:07 PM (dCxaZ)
Posted by: Evan McMullin at February 27, 2023 03:07 PM (guGkK)
https://tinyurl.com/458jkhfw
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 27, 2023 03:06 PM (zZu0s)
Yowza! Same price as in town?
Posted by: Archer at February 27, 2023 03:07 PM (gmo/4)
He also jumped on the preferred pronoun bandwagon. "Our" ?
Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at February 27, 2023 03:07 PM (NW9xb)
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at February 27, 2023 03:07 PM (N39Ws)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at February 27, 2023 03:07 PM (+ZtMi)
Posted by: GOP at February 27, 2023 03:07 PM (j5Tg0)
But tell me again how Trump is the only "true conservative".
Let's just be honest, at this point, Trumpism is just a cult. it's certainly not about ideology.
Posted by: Indrid at February 27, 2023 03:07 PM (NAhYT)
it's never stuff about policy or even just who can win. it's always this personal dumb shit. The closest it gets to a policy level is still on a dumb kind of level: DeSantis is with the globalists, he will sell you out.
Posted by: ace at February 27, 2023 03:08 PM (C1Zwz)
Posted by: pookysgirl, keeping Pookette protected at February 27, 2023 03:08 PM (dtlDP)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 27, 2023 03:08 PM (XR5XV)
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The real fun is going to begin when DeSantis is first to put out a campaign video promising vengeance for vaccine injuries.
At that point, Trump does what, exactly?
Posted by: Methos at February 27, 2023 03:08 PM (kOpft)
Posted by: Muldoon at February 27, 2023 03:06 PM (ykeLU)
right now I'm pretty busy concocting an excuse of why I have to leave werk early
Posted by: kallisto at February 27, 2023 03:08 PM (dCxaZ)
Posted by: REDACTED at February 27, 2023 03:09 PM (us2H3)
Posted by: Eromero at February 27, 2023 03:09 PM (MF3yS)
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at February 27, 2023 03:01 PM (Bd6X
The first claim of the mentally ill is that they were being "erased". Since they were not laughed at or ignored, they went further.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at February 27, 2023 03:09 PM (44ww/)
well I covered that Friday, so I can't really post it again. it is a big story. I can relink it in the side-bar.
Posted by: ace at February 27, 2023 03:09 PM (C1Zwz)
I want Trump back, but I'll take the winner of the primary between the mish grabber and the mouse killer.
Posted by: Inogame at February 27, 2023 03:09 PM (53oGX)
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These things will never happen.
Stay in Florida and prepare to build a wall.
Posted by: Not trying to be mean but... at February 27, 2023 03:09 PM (707QJ)
Yeah I remember that. It was the double down on stupid point at which most people said "you know what? I don't need Disney."
You know, I can talk about how much I like Al Kaline as a player without having to go on and on about how much Mickey Mantle sucks. Just saying.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 27, 2023 03:09 PM (0hOvj)
Posted by: rickb223 at February 27, 2023 03:04 PM (G8h7g)
I remember it. CCR used to hold impromptu concerts out front.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at February 27, 2023 03:05 PM (guGkK)
They'd travel all the way from California to play at a podunk grocery store?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 27, 2023 03:09 PM (Zz0t1)
Oregon used to allow 10-2 votes for misdemeanors and minor felonies to convict.
This was due to racism, of course - it was just amazing how racist a 2% black state could be, historically. (The fact that Oregon is only a 2% black state is also due to racism, of course.)
So, the legislature mandated unanimous juries going forward, but the governor is going farther than that - she is also releasing from prison anyone convicted by a non-unanimous jury.
Of course, these people had a 10-2 vote against them, which likely would have been unanimous given a bit more jury deliberation, but there was no need for the jury to do so - 10-2, and the jury's job was done.
Free pass.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at February 27, 2023 03:09 PM (2tUFv)
Posted by: The Unmasked and Unvaxed Ranger at February 27, 2023 03:09 PM (VTu1l)
Thoughts?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(2YtOq) at February 27, 2023 03:09 PM (2YtOq)
It's one of the top hashtags on social media. Wasn't even top 100 6 years ago. Funny how that goes.
Posted by: brak at February 27, 2023 03:10 PM (j5Tg0)
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Kid in the hospital or plumbing issue at home. Either will work.
Posted by: Puddinhead at February 27, 2023 03:10 PM (8Sqzu)
https://tinyurl.com/458jkhfw
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop "
I'll accept it.
Posted by: eleven at February 27, 2023 03:10 PM (iziT8)
Posted by: ace at February 27, 2023 03:08 PM (C1Zwz)
To be fair, ace, neither can win. At least not any candidate that we would want.
I hope I am wrong.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 27, 2023 03:10 PM (zZu0s)
https://tinyurl.com/mu6m9enk
hm, thank you...
Posted by: ace at February 27, 2023 03:10 PM (C1Zwz)
Posted by: John Fetterman at February 27, 2023 03:10 PM (vwCZJ)
Posted by: N.Lurker at February 27, 2023 03:10 PM (eGTCV)
I guess I could look it up, but...
Posted by: Muldoon at February 27, 2023 03:10 PM (ykeLU)
it's never stuff about policy or even just who can win. it's always this personal dumb shit. The closest it gets to a policy level is still on a dumb kind of level: DeSantis is with the globalists, he will sell you out.
Posted by: ace at February 27, 2023 03:08 PM (C1Zwz)
What are the substantive policy differences? From the other direction the messaging is much the same.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at February 27, 2023 03:10 PM (eYoxG)
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Jeez people. Have you forgotten the usefulness of "COVID symptoms" already?
Posted by: DOE confirms our patented COVID bioweapon was lab-created, released by China at February 27, 2023 03:10 PM (q8U4k)
Didn't think so.
Until then, if at all, Trump is the man.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at February 27, 2023 03:11 PM (BdMk6)
Posted by: Dorcus Blimeline at February 27, 2023 03:11 PM (20SKS)
I judge him on the promises he made and kept when he had the chance to knife us. I know that makes me some kind of Trump Supercuck or something.
Bottom line is get right with God - what the enemy has coming for us will make our little internecine struggle feel like a warm wet one from an angel.
Posted by: ... at February 27, 2023 03:11 PM (ZI4cs)
Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at February 27, 2023 03:11 PM (ISrcT)
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at February 27, 2023 03:11 PM (4r1rb)
Posted by: Eromero at February 27, 2023 03:09 PM (MF3yS)
Suffering eternal heartburn from a hastily-consumed last meal, probably.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at February 27, 2023 03:11 PM (guGkK)
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at February 27, 2023 03:01 PM (Bd6X
Probably not since transitioning them would remove that gene from the pool.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 27, 2023 03:11 PM (z99Zw)
https://tinyurl.com/3fzen7dh
I wonder how much padding? A catsuit covers a multitude of sins.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 27, 2023 03:12 PM (zZu0s)
-Guy getting paid to shill for Asa
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at February 27, 2023 03:12 PM (+ZtMi)
unfortunately that's what pretty much turns elections with the average voters
Posted by: brak at February 27, 2023 03:12 PM (j5Tg0)
Posted by: The Unmasked and Unvaxed Ranger at February 27, 2023 03:09 PM (VTu1l)
trying to three dimsionally queer Ron
the Bushies are the worst cocksuckers on earth
Posted by: REDACTED at February 27, 2023 03:12 PM (us2H3)
Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at February 27, 2023 03:12 PM (ISrcT)
https://tinyurl.com/mu6m9enk
hm, thank you...
Posted by: ace at February 27, 2023 03:10 PM (C1Zwz)
The tl;dr of the loophole that was hoped to be employed is to reclassify a bunch of employees from an unfireable category to a fireable one. In principle it's an abuse of the rules, a loophole after all. I'm not sure what that would've meant for its chances in court one way or the other.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at February 27, 2023 03:12 PM (eYoxG)
Posted by: Wimmen's Big And Tall at February 27, 2023 03:12 PM (B/ami)
I didn't know that Reedy Creek had Different Fire codes and Building Codes that the rest of Florida, which seems insane to me
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at February 27, 2023 03:13 PM (zB6/4)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at February 27, 2023 03:13 PM (+ZtMi)
Posted by: ace at February 27, 2023 03:08 PM (C1Zwz)
Okay now I'm breaking my vow to stay out of it but whatever.
And the main thing everyone is pointing to right now is that Soros said he liked DeSantis and hoped he was the nominee or something.
Show of hands, who thinks Soros was being 100% honest there? Who thinks that he thinks his endorsement will sway conservative voters in that direction?
No, he doesn't think that; he was deliberately trying to stir discord in our ranks by tainting a Trump-like candidate, and way too many people are falling for it.
Posted by: Dr. T at February 27, 2023 03:13 PM (bhRsz)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(2YtOq) at February 27, 2023 03:13 PM (2YtOq)
https://tinyurl.com/mu6m9enk
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy
Dithmithed! ARGY-BARGY! With Prejudith! No Thanding! BARFY-ARFY! Contempt! Bawiff, rodger that man!
Posted by: Hawaiian Judges at February 27, 2023 03:13 PM (XF9Gj)
Posted by: Iris with her selfsame badge of honor at February 27, 2023 03:13 PM (foa6+)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 27, 2023 03:09 PM (Zz0t1)
They collected a lot of nickels for it.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at February 27, 2023 03:13 PM (guGkK)
https://tinyurl.com/458jkhfw
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 27, 2023
*
Yowza! Same price as in town?
Posted by: Archer at February 27, 2023
***
If you have to ask, you can't afford it.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 27, 2023 03:13 PM (J2vNu)
https://tinyurl.com/3fzen7dh
I wonder how much padding? A catsuit covers a multitude of sins.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 27, 2023 03:12 PM (zZu0s)
There be some sin'in I'll say...
Posted by: Inogame at February 27, 2023 03:14 PM (53oGX)
Posted by: Jeb at February 27, 2023 03:14 PM (ISrcT)
Posted by: Cicero
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Down on the corner? Or out in the street? How much did they charge?
Posted by: Muldoon at February 27, 2023 03:14 PM (ykeLU)
Also possible they know where they have DeSantis, but not Trump.
If DeSantis SuperStans don't want to acknowledge possibility #2, then more fool them.
Posted by: ... at February 27, 2023 03:14 PM (ZI4cs)
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As long as mail-in voting and ballot harvesting are a thing in the states where they currently are, no R will win the WH.
Posted by: SMH at God's grace at February 27, 2023 03:14 PM (1+zmy)
well that's true. I meant "effectiveness as an executive." And also as a candidate. Trump has burned way too many bridges with too many voters. I kept waiting for evidence to suggest that this wasn't true, but it kept proving that it was true.
If trump could win, I'd support him, even though he's a very messy, sloppy, scattered administrator. but he can't. I can't have another democrat president. And it will be Newsom.
Posted by: ace at February 27, 2023 03:14 PM (C1Zwz)
DeSantis is not exactly the zenith of charisma. I like a guy who does rather than talks, but he can only do if he stays in Florida and serves the people there as governor -- and works on a great successor.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 27, 2023 03:15 PM (0hOvj)
Posted by: 13times at February 27, 2023 03:15 PM (M6Yu0)
Posted by: N.Lurker at February 27, 2023 03:15 PM (eGTCV)
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No man will ever be your refuge.
Only Jesus Christ.
Posted by: SMH at God's grace at February 27, 2023 03:15 PM (1+zmy)
Watch this and tell me you want this guy in charge again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxgybgEKHHI
Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 27, 2023 03:15 PM (E+05M)
Posted by: Bosk at February 27, 2023 03:15 PM (ZVuYy)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 27, 2023 03:15 PM (63Dwl)
Posted by: N.Lurker at February 27, 2023 03:10 PM (eGTCV)
I think he now identifies as "well done".
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 27, 2023 03:16 PM (tkR6S)
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If you can't elect Trump you will never have anything but democratic puppet presidents. Duh.
Posted by: Puddinhead at February 27, 2023 03:16 PM (8Sqzu)
You just laid a nickel at their feet.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 27, 2023 03:16 PM (0hOvj)
Posted by: SMH at God's grace at February 27, 2023 03:14 PM (1+zmy)
I still say the smart play for the uniparty would be to get an R in who will not do much (or move the ball their way mildly.) That causes the rubes to think Trump really was full of shit and papers over 2020. Everything is fine. It would be the smart play.
You'd even have people here in 5 years who would be saying they do not remember anything too out of bounds- even when voting was shut down simultaneously in 5 critical states.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 27, 2023 03:16 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: Indrid at February 27, 2023 03:07 PM (NAhYT)
Yes yes you are the only smart one.
Posted by: ... at February 27, 2023 03:16 PM (ZI4cs)
Or is that more trash from the Trump dumpster.
Posted by: Jeb! at February 27, 2023 03:16 PM (1BnQs)
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No man will ever be your refuge.
Only Jesus Christ.
Posted by: SMH at God's grace at February 27, 2023 03:15 PM (1+zmy)
That is true. I just meant in this world.
Posted by: Iris with her selfsame badge of honor at February 27, 2023 03:16 PM (foa6+)
Posted by: eleven at February 27, 2023 03:16 PM (iziT8)
Show of hands, who thinks Soros was being 100% honest there? Who thinks that he thinks his endorsement will sway conservative voters in that direction?
No, he doesn't think that; he was deliberately trying to stir discord in our ranks by tainting a Trump-like candidate, and way too many people are falling for it.
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It's worse than that. The clip is edited. See David Strom at hot air. Soros said he hopes DeSantis wins so that trump runs third party to divide the coservative vote to give the Democrats an easy win over a divided republican field.
These trump supporters out there on the internet are pumping out stupid sociopathic lie after stupid sociopathic lie and I'm getting sick of it. And I shouldn't hold it against Trump, because he probably knows nothing of what these stupid little dum-dum sociopathic shitlords are posting it, but i'm beginning to hold it against him.
Posted by: ace at February 27, 2023 03:17 PM (C1Zwz)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
Or he could, you know, just ignore irrelevant people and things like an adult. Either or.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 27, 2023 03:17 PM (XF9Gj)
It's one of the top hashtags on social media. Wasn't even top 100 6 years ago. Funny how that goes.
Posted by: brak at February 27, 2023 03:10 PM (j5Tg0)
The sooner you get the kids on those meds, the quicker you sterilize them.
Population Control Made Easy.
Posted by: XTC at February 27, 2023 03:18 PM (UnA8+)
Posted by: Iris with her selfsame badge of honor at February 27, 2023 03:16 PM (foa6+)
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Especially in this world.
Posted by: SMH at God's grace at February 27, 2023 03:18 PM (BQwGr)
Posted by: ... at February 27, 2023 03:16 PM (ZI4cs)
Gnosticism swings both ways.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 27, 2023 03:18 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 27, 2023 03:18 PM (PyOKD)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 27, 2023 03:18 PM (0hOvj)
well that's true. I meant "effectiveness as an executive." And also as a candidate. Trump has burned way too many bridges with too many voters. I kept waiting for evidence to suggest that this wasn't true, but it kept proving that it was true.
If trump could win, I'd support him, even though he's a very messy, sloppy, scattered administrator. but he can't. I can't have another democrat president. And it will be Newsom.
Posted by: ace at February 27, 2023 03:14 PM (C1Zwz)
As an executive both of them can point to a lot of wins. I think any campaign between the two will naturally be intellectually unsatisfying as their cases against each other aren't particularly strong(on the positive it means our views are consensus views). So it'll be less about the issues and more about who can effectively appeal to voters, which at least addresses who is the strongest candidate.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at February 27, 2023 03:19 PM (eYoxG)
DeSantis can get all sorts of things done with a legislature that backs him 100%. I see no reason to give up an extremely popular candidate to run someone less well known and less popular, with no international experience.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at February 27, 2023 03:19 PM (6lj/r)
Posted by: Notorious BFD at February 27, 2023 03:19 PM (Xrfse)
What I am puzzled by is how they keep acting like there's actually a struggle for Democrats to win. Is he just being cheap? Its expensive to buy elections, sure.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 27, 2023 03:19 PM (0hOvj)
Posted by: Indrid at February 27, 2023 03:07 PM (NAhYT)
Yes yes you are the only smart one.
Posted by: ... at February 27, 2023 03:16 PM (ZI4cs)
We should listen to this guy that is commenting for the 1st time.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 27, 2023 03:20 PM (Y5qcH)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 27, 2023 03:18 PM (0hOvj)
Like that icky seaweed with balloons to keep it afloat.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Southpaw at February 27, 2023 03:20 PM (xPJvm)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 27, 2023 03:18 PM (0hOvj)
Ace may be a piss-poor carpenter but he's no troll.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at February 27, 2023 03:20 PM (guGkK)
It's one of the top hashtags on social media. Wasn't even top 100 6 years ago. Funny how that goes.
Posted by: brak at February 27, 2023
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One hundred years ago, it would have been classified as "mental illness" and the family would have moved fast to hush it up. Hell, even 75 or 50 years ago.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 27, 2023 03:20 PM (J2vNu)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 27, 2023 03:17 PM (XF9Gj)
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Jeb: "I heartily endorse Ron DeSantis!"
Ron: "...."
Jeb: "Hey Ron, I said, I heartily endorse Ron DeSantis!
Ron: "I heard you the first time and responded accordingly."
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(2YtOq) at February 27, 2023 03:20 PM (2YtOq)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at February 27, 2023 03:20 PM (44ww/)
Posted by: Muldoon at February 27, 2023 03:14 PM
Used to be a nickel, but inflation...
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 27, 2023 03:20 PM (plYRv)
Not giving in to panic: Good
Not protecting children: EXTREMELY BAD
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 27, 2023 03:20 PM (0hOvj)
Posted by: Notsothoreau
You mean like Jeb, right?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 27, 2023 03:20 PM (XF9Gj)
Posted by: ... at February 27, 2023 03:20 PM (hM/TR)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 27, 2023 03:20 PM (63Dwl)
Posted by: Junius at February 27, 2023 03:21 PM (ZAerh)
Didn't Soros just have a stroke?
Posted by: N.Lurker at February 27, 2023 03:21 PM (eGTCV)
Posted by: Iris with her selfsame badge of honor at February 27, 2023 03:13 PM (foa6+)
Rinos take over and make frenz with Disney.
Posted by: I've got bad news for you at February 27, 2023 03:21 PM (l9X49)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 27, 2023 03:21 PM (0hOvj)
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As long as mail-in voting and ballot harvesting are a thing in the states where they currently are, no R will win the WH.
Posted by: SMH at God's grace at February 27, 2023 03:14 PM (1+zmy)
This! The fix is already in. He deep state knows exactly who the next prez will be. And it will be neither Trump or DeSantis.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at February 27, 2023 03:21 PM (BdMk6)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at February 27, 2023 03:22 PM (44ww/)
Posted by: REDACTED at February 27, 2023 03:22 PM (us2H3)
I think some people like that he talks outrageously. but talking outrageously while alienating 60% of the population results in us... losing, and not actually changing anything. Whether you like it or not, someone who tones down the message to get 51% to buy into the message and actually get the SUBSTANCE passed is better than someone who talks outrageously on twitter and doesn't get it done.
Trump is the latter. Yes, his Twitter is ON FIRE. But what can he get done? He's only talking to the same 40% of the country he's always talking to! He's turned off the rest. And just talking louder and more pungently doesn't bring them over.
Posted by: ace at February 27, 2023 03:22 PM (C1Zwz)
Posted by: JROD at February 27, 2023 03:23 PM (hmy+j)
"You're perty!"
"You're not."
Unforgiven is an objectively superior movie in every way, but I really enjoyed Quick and the Dead.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 27, 2023 03:23 PM (0hOvj)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 27, 2023 03:20 PM (J2vNu)
50 or 75 years ago, the kid's father would have beat the fear of God into him.
Posted by: XTC at February 27, 2023 03:23 PM (UnA8+)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
Or he could, you know, just ignore irrelevant people and things like an adult. Either or.
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Worked great for W, John McCain and Romney.
Posted by: Oh wait, it didn't, never mind then at February 27, 2023 03:23 PM (YDzXQ)
This! The fix is already in. He deep state knows exactly who the next prez will be. And it will be neither Trump or DeSantis.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at February 27, 2023 03:21 PM (BdMk6)
This. The would be very happy with another 4 of ruprect cameltoe. The weaker the prezzy the stronger the deepstate.
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at February 27, 2023 03:23 PM (Whp0o)
Posted by: N.Lurker at February 27, 2023 03:23 PM (eGTCV)
Posted by: Hank Hill at February 27, 2023 03:23 PM (TeCfW)
people say that but then they argue in threads like this so I don't believe they believe what they're saying
Posted by: ace at February 27, 2023 03:23 PM (C1Zwz)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 27, 2023 03:23 PM (Zz0t1)
What I am puzzled by is how they keep acting like there's actually a struggle for Democrats to win. Is he just being cheap? Its expensive to buy elections, sure.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 27, 2023 03:19 PM (0hOvj)
It is pretty expensive to keep those urban Democrat machines in line. Granted Soros isn't paying for most of it proportionally.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at February 27, 2023 03:23 PM (eYoxG)
Posted by: JROD at February 27, 2023 03:23 PM (hmy+j)
STEINER WILL COME
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at February 27, 2023 03:23 PM (4r1rb)
Posted by: SMH at God's grace at February 27, 2023 03:24 PM (BQwGr)
Posted by: John Fetterman at February 27, 2023 03:24 PM (vwCZJ)
It's over, Wingers.
Posted by: Hope Solo at February 27, 2023 03:24 PM (dfz97)
Posted by: m at February 27, 2023 03:24 PM (lhS81)
That's why I just shake my head at the Trump vs DeSantis shouting. Its just nonsense, its like arguing over who gets the window seat when the Hindenburg is on fire.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 27, 2023 03:24 PM (0hOvj)
https://tinyurl.com/458jkhfw
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop
.......
I bet she uses a mean food replicator.
Posted by: wth at February 27, 2023 03:24 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: Indrid at February 27, 2023 03:07 PM (NAhYT)
Yes yes you are the only smart one.
lol, good answer
and Trumpism is about ideology. I'm all about Trumpism. I'm much, much more a fan of Trumpism than Trump.
Posted by: ace at February 27, 2023 03:25 PM (C1Zwz)
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at February 27, 2023 03:25 PM (17s+e)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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lol
Good summation.
Posted by: SMH at God's grace at February 27, 2023 03:25 PM (BQwGr)
Posted by: ace
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Sounds like from that 40% and 60% stuff, you believe the things like, polls and election tallies.
Huh. I remember when I did. Its been a while though.
Posted by: I'm just saying you are living in a world that doesn't exist anymore at February 27, 2023 03:25 PM (sC7SL)
"or something" is right. Soros said DeSantis was "smart" and "ruthless." He also went on to say he hoped a DJT and RD fight would split the party and make way for a Dem win.
Posted by: Fool Otto at February 27, 2023 03:25 PM (DB16e)
The Florida Fallacy is that Ron De Santis' changes will hold in this state. That's not likely. For now, they're just a parade float to show off in some twisted spectacle on the national scene. Which means that Ron De Santis has no long game in Florida. We're just a venue for a campaign ad for his run for president.
Well, the majority of Florida voters endorsed his fascism just this part November. So it’s a pretty depressing situation. I don’t have any faith in Floridians’ ability to course correct. My sympathies to the blue voters of that state.
I don't really agree. Radical republicans have controlled with supermajorities In the legislature for almost a generation now. Desantis is the ongoing metastasis. As long as the gerrymandering and systematic voter suppression continue, the disease will continue.
Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison at February 27, 2023 03:25 PM (JCZqz)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2023 03:25 PM (dO/0d)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 27, 2023 03:25 PM (E+05M)
Posted by: JROD at February 27, 2023 03:23 PM (hmy+j)
There was an interesting article in JJ's summary this morning about how targeting addresses was much easier than targeting phantom voters for removal from voter rolls.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at February 27, 2023 03:26 PM (eYoxG)
Posted by: Sandra Fluke at February 27, 2023 03:26 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: ace at February 27, 2023 03:23 PM (C1Zwz)
Valid. Even though I was the doomsayer, I think I prefer the catfights.
My thought is the same: I would take Trump or DeSantis. However, Trump is proven to actually DO things we want on the federal level. DeSantis has done well in Florida, so that is a push, I'll say.
I still think the better answer is to burn the party down.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 27, 2023 03:26 PM (zZu0s)
I just want to beat the left wing commie bastard democrats
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2023 03:25 PM (dO/0d)
"Beat" in what sense?
Posted by: m at February 27, 2023 03:26 PM (lhS81)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 27, 2023 03:24 PM (0hOvj)
Nearly everyone that survived that jumped out the windows. So, yeah. Window seat was better on the Hindenburg.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 27, 2023 03:26 PM (Y5qcH)
You remind me of that dirty jobs guy.
Posted by: N.Lurker at February 27, 2023 03:26 PM (eGTCV)
I just want to beat the left wing commie bastard democrats
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2023 03:25 PM (dO/0d)
This.
Except I would insert 'destroy' where you have 'beat.'
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 27, 2023 03:26 PM (Zz0t1)
but I'm guessing the courts will block it (at least for a year or more), saying it violates some administrative procedures legislation or other such bullshit
essentially, the civil service can't be laid off. At best you can fire individuals after documenting with a bunch of paperwork.
Posted by: Bitcoin Fixes Everything at February 27, 2023 03:26 PM (V6W16)
I don't think you're seeing people who realize the election is hopeless arguing for one candidate over the other, just against nonsense and lame cracks against one candidate or the other.
If someone says DeSantis is inexperienced, I'll point out that's nonsense because he has way more experience than Trump did. If someone says Trump is driving away voters, I'll say that's nonsense because he won last time with these tactics. Its about countering falsehood and foolishness, not hoping one or the other can win.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 27, 2023 03:27 PM (0hOvj)
Posted by: Places to keep your testicles at February 27, 2023 03:27 PM (ykeLU)
Posted by: Nikki Haley at February 27, 2023 03:27 PM (E+05M)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2023 03:27 PM (dO/0d)
Posted by: Sandra Fluke at February 27, 2023 03:26 PM (v0R5T)
Hey there bright eyes, come here often?
Posted by: NOT CBD at February 27, 2023 03:27 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: Oh wait, it didn't, never mind then
I wrote "ignore," not "get into the back seat of the limo for another round of Uniparty ass-eating." But do go on.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 27, 2023 03:27 PM (XF9Gj)
90 DeathSantis breath stinks and I will not vote for him or Trump because of their ROTTEN BREATH !!!!!!
Posted by: Dorcus Blimeline at February 27, 2023
Posted by: Dorcus Blimeline at February 27, 2023 03:27 PM (20SKS)
I don't really agree. Radical republicans have controlled with supermajorities In the legislature for almost a generation now. Desantis is the ongoing metastasis. As long as the gerrymandering and systematic voter suppression continue, the disease will continue.
Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison at February 27, 2023 03:25 PM (JCZqz)
Because it's only good when THEY do it.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 27, 2023 03:27 PM (Zz0t1)
and yeah, that's a good point
but politicians imitate what works, and DeSantis wasn't far from Trump to begin with, and is drafting behind Trump now. To think that DeSantis has alienated the media and the "respectable" part of the GOP to imitate Trump and court his base and identify as MAGA just so he can run for president as a maga candidate and THEN, once he gets elected, go "Surprise, bitches! I'm a conventional Yankee Bushie liberal Republican that the media all love having on their Sunday chat shows!" is... i mean, why would he do that? Why would he pose as the thing that gets him grief?
Posted by: ace at February 27, 2023 03:28 PM (C1Zwz)
Posted by: ace at February 27, 2023 03:22 PM (C1Zwz)
Well we'll have to see how it goes. Relying on DeSantis to have the same kind of built in wide voting base like Trump, is in the end what you *hope*.
But he will be painted very expertly as Johnny Republican, a self dealing corrupt liar who hates black people, gays, immigrants and women and will take your social security .
Can he rise above that fray and expand the "base" in spite of that, as Trump absolutely did?
I don't know, and you don't either. DeSantis has that unfortunate "look" of the pre-Trump Republican, the kind who loses badly but with dignity. I am not talking about what he is - I'm talking about what the country who has no fucking idea about anything will be told and see.
Posted by: ... at February 27, 2023 03:28 PM (tGrk1)
Posted by: Iris with her selfsame badge of honor
FL will elect Che Guavaro's ass-baby obviously.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 27, 2023 03:28 PM (XF9Gj)
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They keep using this word.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, mired in filth and awfulness with Ralph Bakshi at February 27, 2023 02:58 PM (LvTSG)
Which word? DeSantis? Literally? Genocide?
Literally is the one that irks but only because it is so rarely used right.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 27, 2023 03:29 PM (FCbAQ)
I'll support any candidate who wins the nomination and frankly I believe a primary would be healthy for the party. But people hunger for substance as a substitute for selfdom. Unless Trump gets off that train, he won't win.
Posted by: Marcus T at February 27, 2023 03:29 PM (ATSTk)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 27, 2023 03:29 PM (0hOvj)
Posted by: sockamster, footage at February 27, 2023 03:29 PM (MLrvz)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at February 27, 2023 03:29 PM (44ww/)
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I'm not sure that is logical. I mean, a person could certainly believe voting is futile, but chose not to support another RINO candidate. Somebody who is going to play nice and lose nice and choose to support somebody who is a giant ball kicking a hole. At least we get some spectacle to enjoy on the way down.
Posted by: In the one true physical model of the universe, our elections are shit at February 27, 2023 03:29 PM (+QBQU)
Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 27, 2023 03:29 PM (FCbAQ)
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Literally true.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(2YtOq) at February 27, 2023 03:29 PM (2YtOq)
Posted by: ace at February 27, 2023 03:28 PM (C1Zwz)
How many times have we seen candidates go to Washington strong and then become Jeb? Eyepatch to name only one example.
There is something fetid and evil about that town. That whole atmosphere.
Posted by: NOT CBD at February 27, 2023 03:30 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: Totally fair and incisive reporter at February 27, 2023 03:30 PM (5FPX4)
Posted by: Ferd Berfall at February 27, 2023 03:30 PM (20SKS)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 27, 2023 03:30 PM (zZu0s)
they've literally changed the dictionary so that "literally" is now defined as "not literally"
so they're literally now using it right
Posted by: ace at February 27, 2023 03:30 PM (C1Zwz)
Posted by: Candidus at February 27, 2023 03:30 PM (CqK30)
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at February 27, 2023 03:30 PM (KbCG3)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 27, 2023 03:29 PM (0hOvj)
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Someone who isn't at all clever is trying to be clever. Sad, really.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(2YtOq) at February 27, 2023 03:30 PM (2YtOq)
Posted by: ace at February 27, 2023 03:31 PM (C1Zwz)
Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at February 27, 2023 03:31 PM (oWBc3)
Posted by: sockamster, footage at February 27, 2023 03:31 PM (MLrvz)
Marcus T
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God help me, I agree with Marcus
Posted by: In the one true physical model of the universe, our elections are shit at February 27, 2023 03:31 PM (Jvwa9)
If true then Biden would not be POTUS !!!!!
Posted by: Ferd Berfall at February 27, 2023 03:31 PM (20SKS)
wait... what?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 27, 2023 03:29 PM (0hOvj)
Forget it, he's rolling.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 27, 2023 03:31 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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You know they didn't have safety glass back then?
Posted by: Puddinhead at February 27, 2023 03:31 PM (8Sqzu)
Posted by: Totally fair and incisive reporter at February 27, 2023 03:31 PM (5FPX4)
Literally is the one that irks but only because it is so rarely used right.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 27, 2023 03:29 PM (FCbAQ)
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I should have bolded it, but it was the literally.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, mired in filth and awfulness with Ralph Bakshi at February 27, 2023 03:31 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: N.Lurker at February 27, 2023 03:31 PM (eGTCV)
Posted by: PabloD at February 27, 2023 03:31 PM (paDcL)
Posted by: ace at February 27, 2023 03:28 PM (C1Zwz)
The obvious possibilitywould be to court Trump voters and in the end wreck Trump.
I mean you will call that paranoid or whatever, which will be unfair. How many very large operations and conspiracies THAT WE KNOW OF were run to "get Trump". If it's one or more, then that's not a paranoid possibility. A LOT of people believed in Nikki Haley and Pence because they knew what Trump-type noises to make for a time.
That said, a bigger concern is can DeSantis even win in the first place. Trump made what he did to Hillary look *easy*. People seem to think therefore someone else can come along and do the same.
Posted by: ... at February 27, 2023 03:32 PM (1LaZ0)
DeSantis I prefer stay as governor and run his state well, then pass the baton on to another great governor who can and will do the same.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 27, 2023 03:32 PM (0hOvj)
and after he loses, we go go back to nominating backstabing limpdicks
as if any of this is gonna matter
Posted by: REDACTED at February 27, 2023 03:32 PM (us2H3)
___
It's a swamp.
It being fetid kinda comes with the territory.
Posted by: SMH at God's grace at February 27, 2023 03:32 PM (BQwGr)
Posted by: duke at February 27, 2023 03:32 PM (uyAU7)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at February 27, 2023 03:32 PM (guGkK)
I keep pointing this out: He was already IN WASHINGTON, FOR YEARS, as a congressman, in te freedom caucus
if he was going to catch washingtonitis, he'd already have it. appearently he deveolped Natural Immunity
Posted by: ace at February 27, 2023 03:32 PM (C1Zwz)
Posted by: gourmand du jour, gimpy edition at February 27, 2023 03:32 PM (jTmQV)
===
I hope to see this used in DeSantis' campaign commercials.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at February 27, 2023 03:32 PM (17s+e)
Posted by: ChockyChockyChip at February 27, 2023 03:32 PM (ufJfM)
Posted by: TransitionTranny at February 27, 2023 03:32 PM (UpqHf)
Posted by: Zek at February 27, 2023 03:32 PM (5FPX4)
Posted by: Hope Solo at February 27, 2023 03:33 PM (dfz97)
Simply being a candidate is not enough. One could argue he will have to resign at receiving the official nomination at the convention. But the far stronger argument is that he is only qualified after the electors meet.
There is no prohibition in FL law saying that the governor has to resign to run for POTUS, thats all just fever swamp reporting.
Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at February 27, 2023 03:33 PM (wYwbB)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 27, 2023
*
50 or 75 years ago, the kid's father would have beat the fear of God into him.
Posted by: XTC at February 27, 2023
***
In 1948, I agree. In 1973, there would have been nascent Child Services to contend with.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 27, 2023 03:33 PM (J2vNu)
Posted by: Muldoon at February 27, 2023 03:33 PM (ykeLU)
You remind me of that dirty jobs guy.
Posted by: N.Lurker at February 27, 2023 03:26 PM
Mike Rowe? High praise...the man's brilliant, but my job's a little different. You can't imagine the amount of crazy discussed there, so I have to sort through it all for the best/craziest posts, and get then to fit the posting limits. Sometimes I take liberties and combine pieces from various posts...makes them not 100% accurate quotes, but, as Dan Rather said about his Bush National Guard fraud, "We reported a true story. We didn't do it perfectly".
Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison at February 27, 2023 03:33 PM (JCZqz)
I'd like to take a moment to say hello to the new, one-name commenters who just showed up.
We have refreshments. There's free cake in The Barrel.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 27, 2023 03:33 PM (n+4am)
if any political movement is to persist it needs to be more than one man, or two, it needs successors that follow and imitate
i think trumpism can be (must be) successful
Posted by: ace at February 27, 2023 03:33 PM (C1Zwz)
I mean, IDK. maybe it is.
Trump did a shit ton of good. But he showed his people management was shit.
We can go through the list, but it seemed to me that he had a coupla guys from NYC he could count on and some professed die hards he could count on...and he let Mueller assrape them. And then he never gave them power while rewarding Mitch.
Posted by: sockamster, footage at February 27, 2023 03:33 PM (MLrvz)
Posted by: duke at February 27, 2023 03:32 PM (uyAU7)
IT'S A TRAP!!!
Posted by: Adm. Akbar at February 27, 2023 03:33 PM (guGkK)
Posted by: sockamster, footage at February 27, 2023 03:34 PM (MLrvz)
Posted by: SMH at God's grace at February 27, 2023 03:34 PM (BQwGr)
Posted by: Candidus at February 27, 2023 03:34 PM (CqK30)
Proper answer: "I am opposed to murdering helpless, innocent babies, just because you don't like how they look"
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 27, 2023 03:34 PM (0hOvj)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 27, 2023 03:34 PM (E+05M)
Posted by: ... at February 27, 2023 03:32 PM (1LaZ0)
More specifically there's elements of the hypothetical Republican coalition that we don't know will consistently be won by R candidates.
Assuming the Democrats largely play fair of course. But the coalition still matters for other offices even if Ds still the Presidency again.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at February 27, 2023 03:34 PM (eYoxG)
Posted by: Hope Solo at February 27, 2023 03:33 PM (dfz97)
That's awfully non-anal from you, Ms. Solo.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 27, 2023 03:34 PM (Zz0t1)
---------------
He is in deep conversation with Bader Ginsberg at the moment.
Posted by: Puddinhead at February 27, 2023 03:34 PM (8Sqzu)
By the way, I'd like to see more of DeSantis before endorsing him. But he's been pretty steady and impressive so far.
Posted by: Marcus T at February 27, 2023 03:35 PM (ATSTk)
so here's my thing: I think Trump basically proposed an incredibly popular platform that is only not incredibly popular because Trump keeps stepping on his own dick every five minutes. I would like someone pushing this very popular platform who doesn't step on his own dick every five minutes to see how it plays.
And i know Trump has a lot of charisma. But it's a charisma of a very divisive kind. Yes, he draws attention. but it's not all good attention. Not nearly all.
Posted by: ace at February 27, 2023 03:35 PM (C1Zwz)
Posted by: raimondo at February 27, 2023 03:35 PM (70Hex)
CPAC is a sausage festival for men that like other men.
Has Schlapp condemned gays adopting babies yet?
Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 27, 2023 03:35 PM (E+05M)
It may have been "Trump's vaccine" in the sense of EUA but it was never Trump's vaccine mandate.
Posted by: Zek at February 27, 2023 03:35 PM (5FPX4)
********
They weren't hiding it during the campaign, why would they hide it now?
Posted by: Muldoon at February 27, 2023 03:35 PM (ykeLU)
And I think all of this spat is media-driven to prevent that.
I don't think Ron at the top is a good idea-- we need a berserker, not a worker.
We are too far past the "fix" stage.
We need to burn it down. Scatter the stones. And start over.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at February 27, 2023 03:35 PM (s4xcq)
==
The ironic thing here is that the phrase "Bushie Liberal" didn't exist when W was elected. Which is the point literally, every Desantis skeptic has been making from the jump. Kinda funny.
Posted by: Literally deployed for effect at February 27, 2023 03:35 PM (PBvcH)
Posted by: ChockyChockyChip at February 27, 2023 03:32 PM
Hidden? I thought it was clear when he was "running", and just as clear that Pennsylvania voters are just as brain dead OR the election system there is corrupt.
Posted by: Moron Analyst at February 27, 2023 03:35 PM (JCZqz)
Posted by: Totally fair and incisive reporter at February 27, 2023 03:30 PM (5FPX4)
Only if it has two heads and we can put it in a jar and sell it to the circus.
Posted by: Ron DeSatan at February 27, 2023 03:35 PM (v0R5T)
https://bit.ly/3SD4X1B
Posted by: bonhomme at February 27, 2023 03:35 PM (eyxn4)
Posted by: Archimedes at February 27, 2023 03:35 PM (eOEVl)
if he was going to catch washingtonitis, he'd already have it. appearently he deveolped Natural Immunity
Posted by: ace at February 27, 2023 03:32 PM (C1Zwz)
Perhaps. We have little margin for error though- or we have all the margin in the world.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 27, 2023 03:36 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 27, 2023 03:36 PM (XR5XV)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at February 27, 2023 03:36 PM (guGkK)
(because:
limp dick ballot security, blue city cheating;
got rolled on 2020 census;
no green party candidate on ballot;
but 2 or 3 libertarian candidates on ballot; and
media bias)
then fuck, what do you want? The ash heap that's left of this country deserves the third world problems our boomer parents wanted us to inherit.
Posted by: sockamster, footage at February 27, 2023 03:36 PM (MLrvz)
Posted by: ... at February 27, 2023 03:36 PM (1LaZ0)
----------------
I thought it was green Jello with carrots in it.
Posted by: Puddinhead at February 27, 2023 03:36 PM (8Sqzu)
I wish it was a law in every state that if you run for an office higher than the one you are currently in, you are forced to resign upon filing for candidacy. Clearly you cannot do your job properly if you're also campaigning.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 27, 2023 03:36 PM (0hOvj)
i think trumpism can be (must be) successful
Posted by: ace at February 27, 2023 03:33 PM (C1Zwz)
Well that goes beyond candidates to building party machines. Which tend to be corrupt and ugly by nature. It easier to get people to consistently act for the sake of interests than out of personal virtue after all.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at February 27, 2023 03:37 PM (eYoxG)
Posted by: Jeff Spicoli at February 27, 2023 03:37 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at February 27, 2023 03:37 PM (17s+e)
if any political movement is to persist it needs to be more than one man, or two, it needs successors that follow and imitate
i think trumpism can be (must be) successful
Posted by: ace at February 27, 2023 03:33 PM (C1Zwz)
This was Kathy Barnette's point in her run against Oz. MAGA is bigger than Trump. Except, Trump will never let it be that.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at February 27, 2023 03:37 PM (KbCG3)
Posted by: Hope Solo at February 27, 2023 03:37 PM (dfz97)
Posted by: Moron Analyst at February 27, 2023 03:35 PM (JCZqz)
A little from column A and a shit ton from column B.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at February 27, 2023 03:37 PM (n1JsZ)
Posted by: NCKate at February 27, 2023 03:37 PM (d5Qya)
Posted by: TransitionTranny at February 27, 2023 03:32 PM (UpqHf)
DeSantis running in a primary is not stabbing Trump in the back.
Posted by: m at February 27, 2023 03:37 PM (lhS81)
Kiss my fries, it’s President Trump in 2024 or we are all screwed
DeSantis already has a sale tag on him from the globalist
How dumb can you really
Be?
Posted by: Gonzotx at February 27, 2023 03:37 PM (MwHgU)
Excerpt:
DeSantis, who spoke at last year’s conference in Orlando, Florida, reportedly has “other plans” and will not be attending…
…Sources told ABC News that Pence has declined an invitation to the conference.
https://tinyurl.com/2vh9f35f
Posted by: SMH at God's grace at February 27, 2023 03:38 PM (BQwGr)
Joe Biden showered with his daughter, you f*ckwit.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 27, 2023 03:38 PM (Zz0t1)
No. But I don't live in Fla. What I have received in the past 3 days are 2 text from "TRUMP 2024" asking for money. They need lots of money NOW! I guess he's building the biggest, most bestest ever vote harvesting operation anyone has ever seen. I'm not sending any money, but was glad to see someone is grasping the concept.
Posted by: Fool Otto at February 27, 2023 03:38 PM (DB16e)
Sadly, Ace is also right, another Dem will be the death knell. This administration’s economic (which in a sick twist autocorrected to colonic originally) policies have caused us to lose a frightening amount of money. I know we aren’t alone there, obviously.
Posted by: Piper at February 27, 2023 03:38 PM (ZdaMQ)
Posted by: ShainS -- Transgenderism is the Tip of the Transhumanism Spear at February 27, 2023 03:38 PM (P7h5i)
Posted by: Totally fair and incisive reporter at February 27, 2023 03:30 PM (5FPX4)
Only if it has two heads and we can put it in a jar and sell it to the circus.
Posted by: Ron DeSatan at February 27, 2023 03:35 PM (v0R5T)
Exactly how big are the flippers?
Posted by: Governor Deathantis at February 27, 2023 03:38 PM (Whp0o)
Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at February 27, 2023 03:38 PM (wYwbB)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at February 27, 2023 03:36 PM (guGkK)
You misspelled "anal warts."
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 27, 2023 03:38 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: ace
////
yeah, it may be the case. Trump managed to pick up .001% of the black vote but lost 5% of the white vote.
what can you do, you know the same bitter childless whores are going to hate desantis too. unless he uses that picture of him in his dress navy uniform to campaign on.
Posted by: sockamster, footage at February 27, 2023 03:38 PM (MLrvz)
https://tinyurl.com/5n75jttp
Posted by: SMH at God's grace at February 27, 2023
***
Capt. "Oddball" Stirling to the rescue!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 27, 2023 03:38 PM (J2vNu)
Women should be able to have abortions through the 4th trimester, not just the 4th month!!!
Posted by: AOC at February 27, 2023 03:38 PM (JCZqz)
Posted by: Zek at February 27, 2023 03:38 PM (5FPX4)
“DeSantis running in a primary is not stabbing Trump in the back”
Of course it is!!!!
Posted by: Gonzotx at February 27, 2023 03:39 PM (MwHgU)
Posted by: raimondo at February 27, 2023 03:39 PM (70Hex)
==
The ironic thing here is that the phrase "Bushie Liberal" didn't exist when W was elected. Which is the point literally, every Desantis skeptic has been making from the jump. Kinda funny.
Posted by: Literally deployed for effect at February 27, 2023 03:35 PM (PBvcH)
His lack of conservatism was noted at the time by Buckley. Bush was never thought of as a particularly Conservative President but more of a moderate. That wing of the party is now more openly liberal though where they used to pay lip service to Conservatism.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at February 27, 2023 03:39 PM (eYoxG)
Posted by: gp Sets In Motion Various Apparatuses at February 27, 2023 03:39 PM (MvF+J)
And i know Trump has a lot of charisma. But it's a charisma of a very divisive kind. Yes, he draws attention. but it's not all good attention. Not nearly all.
Posted by: ace at February 27, 2023 03:35 PM (C1Zwz)
How about Ted Cruz? He is disciplined.
Posted by: m at February 27, 2023 03:39 PM (lhS81)
Welcome Lonnie. Let me introduce you to Jugdish, Sidney, Clayton and Mohamet.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at February 27, 2023 03:39 PM (guGkK)
Posted by: Mail-in Voting at February 27, 2023 03:39 PM (EaaVn)
what was that story about the woke TV show focus group that had a fake "toxic" tv show as an alternative? Where the crowd was like "yes, give us starksy and hutch 2.0 over wakanda therapist.
Posted by: sockamster, footage at February 27, 2023 03:39 PM (MLrvz)
Posted by: Skip at February 27, 2023 03:39 PM (xhxe8)
Posted by: N.Lurker at February 27, 2023 03:39 PM (eGTCV)
Posted by: Marcus T at February 27, 2023 03:39 PM (ATSTk)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at February 27, 2023 03:40 PM (n1JsZ)
Posted by: ace
You
Have always hated President Trump
Still hurt about Cruz are ya?
Posted by: Gonzotx at February 27, 2023 03:40 PM (MwHgU)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 27, 2023 03:40 PM (0hOvj)
I know this is tongue in cheek, but did y'all know that some of those "tests" they use to convince mothers their kids are going to be disabled give false positives up to 80% of the time?
DiGeorge syndrome: the chance a positive test is wrong is 81%
1p36 deletion: 94%
Cri-du-chat syndrome: 80%
Wolf-Hirschhorn syndrome: 86%
Prader-Willi and Angelman syndromes: 93%
https://nyti.ms/3F4C4pN
Posted by: bonhomme at February 27, 2023 03:41 PM (eyxn4)
Mike
Posted by: MBunge at February 27, 2023 03:41 PM (2tWdQ)
==
And yet they screamed WHAT ABOUT YOUR GAFFES!!! At Captain charisma himself. It doesn't take the press long to deconstruct anyone. They just have to apply themselves. There's no magical suit of armor that gets anyone passed that -- except for one. Already being a known brand. It is what it is. Some people like Ford's and some people like chevy's he's like. But every election -- assuming no cheating -- is decided by independents. And those people appreciate low inflation and good economy, especially coming off this shit show. If destefantis can excite those people, that might a be a thing then. Trumps got huge vax problems which is a problem. We're probably going to lose either way. For multiple reasons.
Posted by: Some men just want to see Politics BURN at February 27, 2023 03:41 PM (jeX8W)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 27, 2023 03:41 PM (XR5XV)
Posted by: Candidus at February 27, 2023 03:34 PM (CqK30)
And we need 5000 golden parachutes for those people, b/c they will be hounded every day of their jobs, impeached, likely prosecuted, and piranhas in the job market afterwards.
Yeah, it's not just finding good people who want to do it - it's finding people who have either the financial or job security and the force of character/will who can do it...
Posted by: Nova Local at February 27, 2023 03:41 PM (exHjb)
Posted by: m
It is if you define it that way. I'm not saying it's a GOOD definition...
Posted by: Archimedes at February 27, 2023 03:41 PM (eOEVl)
https://tinyurl.com/5n75jttp
Posted by: SMH at God's grace at February 27, 2023
Looks like my cat Scout, but she's more EOD, judging from how she exits her litter box cubby. Full sprint.
Fire in the hole!!
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Southpaw at February 27, 2023 03:41 PM (xPJvm)
Posted by: ace at February 27, 2023 03:25 PM (C1Zwz)
Lol! I get your drift but Aceism >> Trumpism is more accurate
Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at February 27, 2023 03:41 PM (ISrcT)
He could clear the stink of Covid off him by naming names, like "Fauci swore to me that 2 million would die. That was a lie. He lied to me and you. "
Instead? This penny-ante crap attacking Ron.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at February 27, 2023 03:41 PM (s4xcq)
I mean, IDK. maybe it is.
Trump did a shit ton of good. But he showed his people management was shit.
...
yes, I mean, the GOP surrounded him to control him. He came in with almost zero allies. I've told a story before of where a REAL ally tried to get in, a guy who actually wrote The Conservative Case For Trump, and when I say he wrote The Conservative Case For Trump, I mean that literally not metaphorically:
https://tinyurl.com/muuahfsb
Brett Decker actually had prior State Department experience and literally wrote The Conservative Case for Trump with Phyllis Schafly so he's one of the few establishment/intellectual supporters of trump so when he tries to come in with a job in the WH or State (I forget which), you know what happens?
Posted by: ace at February 27, 2023 03:42 PM (C1Zwz)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 27, 2023 03:42 PM (0hOvj)
The NFTs were the final straw for many.
He’s just a grifter like all the rest , a grifter that has zero shot at actually winning anything anymore.
Even I didn’t want to see him reduced to this.
Posted by: Audio at February 27, 2023 03:42 PM (xy6lW)
Joe Biden showered with his daughter, you f*ckwit.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 27, 2023 03:38 PM (Zz0t1)
ITS FUNNY CAUSE THE DEMS POLICY IS TO LET PEDOS INTO KINDERGARTEN TO HAVE A RAP SESH WITH YOUR KIDS ABOUT THEIR NONO SQUARES BUT A 25 SOMTHEING YEAR OLD HANGING WITH HIGH SCHOOLERS IS BEYOND THE PALE.
Posted by: Ben Rothliesbergergler at February 27, 2023 03:42 PM (Whp0o)
Posted by: ace
*******
Whoa, whoa, whoa there young man. When did facts become an acceptable form of discourse? Was there a memo to that effect? I may have to reconsider my whole approach...
Posted by: Muldoon at February 27, 2023 03:42 PM (ykeLU)
Posted by: bonhomme at February 27, 2023 03:42 PM (eyxn4)
But I think DeSantis is 95% Trump agenda, more electable and can launch a legacy conservative party that Trump is just too old to do.
I shall now return to work in a cowardly fashion...
Posted by: Zek at February 27, 2023 03:42 PM (5FPX4)
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at February 27, 2023 03:37 PM (KbCG3)
When has Trump ever rolled over and given up? When it's his time, he will let it all be bigger than him.
I mean, he fucking showed Republicans across this country how to beat Democrats. Made no secret about it. No special sauce. He gave them a road map, spelled it out and said DO THIS and you too can help save this country.
They took that map and told him and us to stick it up our ass with mustard.
Posted by: ... at February 27, 2023 03:42 PM (DjDcn)
Dude, there ARE Republicans so stupid they want to cut Medicare and Social Security. Let DeSantis distance himself from that but let's not pretend there aren't GOPers that dumb.
Mike
Posted by: MBunge at February 27, 2023 03:43 PM (2tWdQ)
The people at those places know he's actually a Trumpie and KEEP HIM OUT. They keep giving him the run-around, cancelling his interviews, delaying them. Trump said to give him an interview, but they play games as far as the timing, and ultimately, THEY FILL UP ALL THE IMPORTANT JOBS BEFORE THEY GET AROUND TO SCHEDULING HIM
And this is going on all over the Trump government, the f***ing bad guys have filled all the top positions in the transition so they're the ones who are handing out the key positions to their friends who are themselves bad guys. One guy I know told someone in the WH "I should be a good fit, I supported Trump big-time during the campaign," and he was told, "Oh, that's going to COUNT AGAINST YOU."
Posted by: ace at February 27, 2023 03:43 PM (C1Zwz)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 27, 2023 03:42 PM (0hOvj)
"You act like this is wrong in some way...."
- - - Joe Biden wagging his cock in his daughter's face in the shower
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 27, 2023 03:43 PM (Zz0t1)
He drives some people insane. That is certain. I'll still vote for him if he's on the ticket.
Posted by: gp Sets In Motion Various Apparatuses at February 27, 2023 03:43 PM (MvF+J)
___
Image of mine leaving the litterbox:
https://tinyurl.com/54wa5hb2
Posted by: SMH at God's grace at February 27, 2023 03:44 PM (BQwGr)
Posted by: m
It is if you define it that way. I'm not saying it's a GOOD definition...
Posted by: Archimedes at February 27, 2023 03:41 PM (eOEVl)
It's a good definition in transactional and consequently effective political parties, like the Democrats.
Granted we'd not have had Trump as a candidate either if the GOP was run that way. Democrats require all kinds of favor trading and earning your way up to become a candidate for them, unlike the GOP where random people can quite frequently run and win. This is part of why they're able to consistently able to get their people to vote and act in unison though.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at February 27, 2023 03:44 PM (eYoxG)
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at February 27, 2023 03:44 PM (4r1rb)
Posted by: Marcus T at February 27, 2023 03:44 PM (ATSTk)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 27, 2023 03:44 PM (XF9Gj)
He could clear the stink of Covid off him by naming names, like "Fauci swore to me that 2 million would die. That was a lie. He lied to me and you. "
Instead? This penny-ante crap attacking Ron.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at February 27, 2023 03:41 PM (s4xcq)
Attacking the right targets would earn him far more praise than attacking those proven popular with the base. It's the difference between winning supporters and stopping the bleeding.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at February 27, 2023 03:44 PM (KbCG3)
==
Dude. "now more openly liberal" --> um BILL KRISTOL.
"used to pay lip service to Conseratism" Kristol was ST. CONSERVATIVE.
Puhlease. Its been the UNIPARTY ALL ALONG.
Posted by: Some men just want to see Politics BURN at February 27, 2023 03:44 PM (4T1zb)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 27, 2023 03:44 PM (plYRv)
Fetterman or Jimmah, got a 10 on the 3rd worst presnit ever winning this dead pool.
Posted by: Auspex at February 27, 2023 03:45 PM (j4U/Z)
Either they get cut or we all are doomed. Since nobody has the pills to get it done, we're all doomed. But pretending its stupid or wrong to do so is just denying reality.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 27, 2023 03:45 PM (0hOvj)
Posted by: m
It is if you define it that way. I'm not saying it's a GOOD definition...
Posted by: Archimedes at February 27, 2023 03:41 PM (eOEVl)
True! Lacking that definitional context, it is open to being misunderstood.
Posted by: m at February 27, 2023 03:45 PM (lhS81)
Posted by: Eskimo at February 27, 2023 03:45 PM (L498I)
///
yeah. I can guess, I just hope Mueller didn't bankrupt him.
um, yeah, Giulinani showed he was ride or die. I think he could've salvaged Christie. Those two big swining dicks woulda 100% changed the admin. Can you imagine them letting rosenstein write that memo. or let Flynn get fired bc he took a phone call on the beach.
I think....that DeSantis is going to have his Florida ride or dies. So, that alone. might be good. might be good.
Posted by: sockamster, footage at February 27, 2023 03:45 PM (MLrvz)
So, you may like Trump, but if Trump's the guy, these are the people who come in again, all the bad guys of the shittiest part of the GOP, *because he has no home team of his own.*
Posted by: ace at February 27, 2023 03:45 PM (C1Zwz)
Posted by: East Palestine OH nine months from now at February 27, 2023 03:45 PM (v0R5T)
The Covid bailouts made TARP look like a rounding error.
Plus all the stimmie checks in the mail? And even after he lost, he still wanted to keep mailing checks out.
Fauci running things, lockdown USA. Trump blasting governors for trying to reopen.
List goes on and on.
Posted by: Audio at February 27, 2023 03:45 PM (xy6lW)
Posted by: sockamster, gator at February 27, 2023 03:45 PM (MLrvz)
if you're posting edited videos and you know they're lies, then you're a dum-dum shitlord, yes. If not, then not.
Posted by: ace at February 27, 2023 03:46 PM (C1Zwz)
Posted by: John Fetterman at February 27, 2023 03:46 PM (Zz0t1)
https://tinyurl.com/54wa5hb2
Posted by: SMH at God's grace at February 27, 2023 03:44 PM
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 27, 2023 03:46 PM (plYRv)
Posted by: m
It is if you define it that way. I'm not saying it's a GOOD definition...
Posted by: Archimedes at February 27, 2023 03:41 PM (eOEVl)
It's true. We owe it to people who have run before to give them the job based on their experience in losing. It's how we got great nominees like Bob Dole, John McCain, and Mitt Romney. Not to mention Gerald Ford, who Ronald Reagan tried to stab in the back.
The most important thing is we have to stick with proven election losers because they've paid their dues.
Posted by: Wally at February 27, 2023 03:46 PM (FJYfm)
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at February 27, 2023 03:37 PM (KbCG3)
When has Trump ever rolled over and given up? When it's his time, he will let it all be bigger than him.
I mean, he fucking showed Republicans across this country how to beat Democrats. Made no secret about it. No special sauce. He gave them a road map, spelled it out and said DO THIS and you too can help save this country.
They took that map and told him and us to stick it up our ass with mustard.
Posted by: ... at February 27, 2023 03:42 PM (DjDcn)
So why did he endorse Oz over Barnette? This is the issue.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at February 27, 2023 03:46 PM (KbCG3)
Posted by: sockamster, gator at February 27, 2023 03:46 PM (MLrvz)
Tells you something, doesn't it.
Posted by: Archimedes at February 27, 2023 03:46 PM (eOEVl)
Posted by: Huck Follywood at February 27, 2023 03:46 PM (Z7kXD)
Posted by: East Palestine OH nine months from now at February 27, 2023 03:45 PM (v0R5T)
Pfft. They've been coming out of Camp Lejeune for decades now.
Posted by: Injury Lawyers Are Standing By Now!!! at February 27, 2023 03:46 PM (guGkK)
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at February 27, 2023 03:47 PM (eYoxG)
Posted by: ... at February 27, 2023 03:47 PM (DjDcn)
Posted by: m at February 27, 2023 03:39 PM
The apple doesn't fall far from the tree, Lyin' Ted, and your Dad shot JFK or something.
Posted by: Donald J. Trump at February 27, 2023 03:47 PM (JCZqz)
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at February 27, 2023 03:47 PM (Whp0o)
To be fair, Kentucky can be weird, but I also wonder if you believe the old GOPe saw of 'electability' a bit too much. The trap with that is when and if the media turn their full guns on DeSantis, will he all of a sudden become 'unelectable' and then a bright new shiny pony will have to be found?
I think right now, the media AND the GOPe want a blood out dog fight. I think there are more avenues of attack on DeSantis that they are holding their powder on.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 27, 2023 03:48 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at February 27, 2023 03:46 PM (KbCG3)
She wasn't on the radar initially and later in the race it would've been late to swap and maybe have failed. Choosing Barnette wasn't an ignored easy slam dunk.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at February 27, 2023 03:48 PM (eYoxG)
Posted by: sockamster, gator at February 27, 2023
***
Homey don't play dat
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 27, 2023 03:48 PM (J2vNu)
Posted by: SMH at God's grace at February 27, 2023 03:48 PM (BQwGr)
Mike
okay that's fine but if we're taking an everything's fair in politics approach, then no whining when Ron DeSantis goes after trump on vaccines.
Or shutting down the country.
Either gloves are off or not. It can't be gloves off for Trump's punches but then gloves on when it's DeSantis' time to hit.
Posted by: ace at February 27, 2023 03:48 PM (C1Zwz)
'nough said.
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Precisely, keep DeSantis in FL and send Trump to DC. Then we build the fucking wall and broker a peace in Ukraine.
Posted by: Puddinhead at February 27, 2023 03:48 PM (8Sqzu)
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at February 27, 2023 03:47 PM (Whp0o)
It's speculated that he's already brain dead. I am not sure how you'd know, but it's out there.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 27, 2023 03:48 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: ... at February 27, 2023 03:47 PM
I don't understand? I lost...
Posted by: Jeb! at February 27, 2023 03:48 PM (JCZqz)
//
ted has the big brains. he has the intellectual fire power to be a modern day newt.
but...he's been wrong and weak on some key issues. It took trump 2016 for him to start talking right on some issues.
Posted by: sockamster, gator at February 27, 2023 03:48 PM (MLrvz)
Posted by: Cosda at February 27, 2023 03:48 PM (F2pbA)
Tell me again how Trump has learned his lesson and will pick good people?
Posted by: Marcus T at February 27, 2023 03:48 PM (ATSTk)
Posted by: ... at February 27, 2023 03:42 PM (DjDcn)
And yet here we are talking about 2024.
If you enjoyed 2020, 2024 gonna be lit.
Bring the lube.
Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free Republic of Florida at February 27, 2023 03:49 PM (MkuC5)
I thought it was pretty obvious during the campaign.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at February 27, 2023 03:49 PM (Bd6X8)
Trump is polling higher than Biden at the moment.
Posted by: mrp at February 27, 2023 03:49 PM (rj6Yv)
how many times does trump have to lose before your concede that he might have a problem with electability?
if you say "it's rigged," fine, then they are very good at riggging elections against Trump and he can't do anything about it. Whatever you want to call it.
Posted by: ace at February 27, 2023 03:49 PM (C1Zwz)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at February 27, 2023 03:49 PM (9aINP)
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at February 27, 2023
***
He's bald! He doesn't have anything to dye!
Well, the goatee then. Just For Men works good for that.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 27, 2023 03:49 PM (J2vNu)
Posted by: KJP is a race and gender swapped Side Show Bob at February 27, 2023 03:50 PM (QpUKb)
I can't do that.
Posted by: eleven
DeSantis does not attack or criticize Donald Trump publicly. However, he has surrogates that do that. Trump knows the game.
But Donald looks small in attacking Ron DeSantis. He should just lay off of him.
Attack Biden and his Junta. They are all bad people. There are no exceptions.
Tell Donald to attack Biden continuously and furiously.
Donald went to East Palestine, Ohio last week, and was warmly welcomed. It spurred Butt-boy DoT Secretary to show up, who would talk to no one publicly and answer no questions.
That's what Donald should be focused on. Ridiculing and showing up the Biden Junta whenever he can.
Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at February 27, 2023 03:50 PM (vcOmj)
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at February 27, 2023 03:50 PM (2hlEI)
https://tinyurl.com/458jkhfw
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop
Nearly lifelike.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 27, 2023 03:50 PM (FCbAQ)
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at February 27, 2023 03:47 PM (Whp0o)
It's speculated that he's already brain dead. I am not sure how you'd know, but it's out there.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 27, 2023 03:48 PM (Zz0t1)
We'll know something is up when his wife ops for the 60-minute massage instead of the deluxe 90-minute joint.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at February 27, 2023 03:50 PM (KbCG3)
Posted by: Hope Solo at February 27, 2023 03:50 PM (dfz97)
Posted by: Muldoon
It was listed in the ingredients underneath "Red Dye #5, ebola, cellulose, opium, and Fumeric acid."
Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 27, 2023 03:50 PM (XF9Gj)
Welp, with 17 Intel Agencies working for Brandon, he only needs to order that one of them always disagrees with the other sixteen, so he can forever avoid needing to publicly blame China.
/spit/
Posted by: Gref at February 27, 2023 03:50 PM (AMIL/)
--
Mitch McConnell, Minority Leader.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 27, 2023 03:50 PM (up/3i)
Trump has earned, by any accounting , his shot at the prize. Yea he makes bizarre personnel decisions but the Communists hate him and are afraid of him, BIGLY.
Ronny D has done some good work. He is endorsed by Jeb! And a lot of other Commie- enabling, weak GOPe p*ssies but , hey, may be Ronnie D will show a mind of his own at nut cutting time.
Posted by: Voter theater. at February 27, 2023 03:50 PM (fspFq)
wow, he's beating the most unpopular president ever?
I guess we should just hope that Biden is 1, the candidate and 2, doesn't experience any improvements, and then we might be okay
Posted by: ace at February 27, 2023 03:50 PM (C1Zwz)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 27, 2023 03:51 PM (E+05M)
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 27, 2023 03:51 PM (yQpMk)
Posted by: sockamster, gator at February 27, 2023 03:51 PM (MLrvz)
His gut level reactions to stuff is often bad. He called the January 6 protesters "terrorists" and voted to award the murderer of Ashli Babbitt a medal.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 27, 2023 03:51 PM (0hOvj)
Maybe his crazy wife did something to him. Might explain why she fled the country instead of being by his side in the hospital.
Posted by: bonhomme at February 27, 2023 03:51 PM (eyxn4)
==
Dude. "now more openly liberal" --> um BILL KRISTOL.
"used to pay lip service to Conseratism" Kristol was ST. CONSERVATIVE.
Puhlease. Its been the UNIPARTY ALL ALONG.
Posted by: Some men just want to see Politics BURN at February 27, 2023 03:44 PM (4T1zb)
Bill Kristol is a neocon. That's another group of people with different interests, just fyi.
Buckley was St. Conservative, and the one who said Bush wasn't a Conservative.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at February 27, 2023 03:51 PM (eYoxG)
---
Is it "Make America Great Again" or "Make Trump Great Again?"
That's the question Trump needs to answer.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at February 27, 2023 03:51 PM (s4xcq)
This is typical GOP because: a) they are partially culpable, and b) they can't make an argument to save their lives.
Posted by: Marcus T at February 27, 2023 03:52 PM (ATSTk)
Posted by: ace at February 27, 2023 03:52 PM (C1Zwz)
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at February 27, 2023 03:46 PM (KbCG3)
That's who he thought could win. Seems to be the mo
Posted by: ... at February 27, 2023 03:52 PM (SgOOX)
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I would direct any "unpopular biden" thoughts to the red dead dick trickle of nov 2022.
you can read all of ace's posts about how 90% of the country was registered GOP in oct 2022.
Posted by: sockamster, gator at February 27, 2023 03:52 PM (MLrvz)
Trump has earned, by any accounting , his shot at the prize. Yea he makes bizarre personnel decisions but the Communists hate him and are afraid of him, BIGLY.
Ronny D has done some good work. He is endorsed by Jeb! And a lot of other Commie- enabling, weak GOPe p*ssies but , hey, may be Ronnie D will show a mind of his own at nut cutting time.
Posted by: Voter theater. at February 27, 2023 03:50 PM (fspFq)
Let's keep this in mind:
Desantis has been endorsed by some weak sisters.
Trump endorsed McCarthy and McDaniel.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at February 27, 2023 03:52 PM (KbCG3)
wow, he's beating the most unpopular president ever?"
Preference cascade 99% complete. Took only 14 weeks.
Posted by: gp Sets In Motion Various Apparatuses at February 27, 2023 03:52 PM (MvF+J)
==
No outsider does. The deep state takes care of that.
Desantis can bring every single person from his admin in Fla and not have enough people to fill the jobs at the federal level. They both have the same problem. You can say Ron makes better choices. Well when he has to fill that many places, in a short time, he's not going to have such a hot batting average. Not that I won't potentially vote for him. I just want to be told that he was from a middle class family were both parents worked and he got into yale on a baseball scholarship and didn't join the skull and bones while there . . .
Posted by: Some men just want to see Politics BURN at February 27, 2023 03:52 PM (PBvcH)
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 27, 2023 03:52 PM (B/ami)
Posted by: ace at February 27, 2023 03:49 PM (C1Zwz)
========
This is where I am. It doesn't matter who's the Republican nominee.
Philly, AZ, MI, and GA will make sure they lose.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, mired in filth and awfulness with Ralph Bakshi at February 27, 2023 03:52 PM (LvTSG)
>>okay, palate cleans: Marvel disaster OR bride pressured into inviting her friend's entire "polycule' to wedding?
Marvel disaster, I do not know what a polycule is nor do I want to find out.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 27, 2023 03:53 PM (up/3i)
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 27, 2023 03:51 PM (yQpMk)
I like "Darth Santis" better than "DeSatan."
Posted by: m at February 27, 2023 03:53 PM (lhS81)
//
yeah. that's a problem.
the dec 2022 GOP mass betrayal is a problem.
the gop hates its base
Posted by: sockamster, gator at February 27, 2023 03:53 PM (MLrvz)
Yep. Ted Cruz can be an awesome firebrand for our cause, but he needs someone with good instincts to point him in the right direction first. That means he's a great follower, but not a great leader. I don't see Cruz being a good POTUS.
Posted by: bonhomme at February 27, 2023 03:53 PM (eyxn4)
Posted by: Hope Solo at February 27, 2023 03:53 PM (dfz97)
which DeSantis surrogates are attacking Trump? Please name them.
Posted by: ace at February 27, 2023 03:53 PM (C1Zwz)
Posted by: K-Y Corporation at February 27, 2023 03:53 PM (FtKnZ)
Posted by: mikethemoose at February 27, 2023 03:54 PM (AmpGx)
Either gloves are off or not. It can't be gloves off for Trump's punches but then gloves on when it's DeSantis' time to hit.
Posted by: ace at February 27, 2023 03:48 PM (C1Zwz)
I hope mainly we stop seeing arguments about the fairness of political attacks by candidates in the comments though. It is tedious to hear whining about it.
Also would hope that people not get personal towards each other about things. The candidates largely aren't attacking voters either, just each other.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at February 27, 2023 03:54 PM (eYoxG)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at February 27, 2023 03:54 PM (Wl6Ns)
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at February 27, 2023 03:47 PM (Whp0o)
........
I still see him commenting here occasionally.
Posted by: wth at February 27, 2023 03:54 PM (v0R5T)
Wow lots of concert fans here!
Posted by: BourbonChicken at February 27, 2023 03:54 PM (44ww/)
DeSantis does not attack or criticize Donald Trump publicly. However, he has surrogates that do that. Trump knows the game.
But Donald looks small in attacking Ron DeSantis.
This aspect of Trump's behavior really concerns me. (yeah, yeah, my concern is noted)
It's Politics 101 that you don't do what he's doing. He does look small, and worse, out of touch, and possibly losing his grip. It's not a good look, and it certainly won't persuade those who are inclined against him to reconsider.
Posted by: Archimedes at February 27, 2023 03:54 PM (eOEVl)
Philly, AZ, MI, and GA will make sure they lose.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, mired in filth and awfulness with Ralph Bakshi at February 27, 2023 03:52 PM (LvTSG)
I'm keeping a corner of the eye look at AZ since they're now saying there's evidence of the installed governor having ties to money laundering (who doesn't in the Dem party?) and the DRUG CARTELS.
That should be fun, should it go somewhere.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 27, 2023 03:54 PM (Zz0t1)
///
putin? or wait...how does this game work?
Posted by: sockamster, gator at February 27, 2023 03:54 PM (MLrvz)
I tend to agree with this, although I also think that time and noise can make it true. For example, many people here who damned well know better are now mouthing many of the same imbecilic talking points of Michael Moore and the Dixie Chicks about the Iraq War. What happened? The lie was shouted often and loud enough that people sort of gave in.
And I think to a certain extend that's true about Trump; the shouting was easy to ignore and laugh at in 2020, but by now I think its sunk in with a lot of voters who ought to know better.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 27, 2023 03:54 PM (0hOvj)
Okay, which of DeSantis' surrogates are out there attacking Trump? Just list them.
This is fucking maddening, you just make shit up.
No wonder you like Trump.
Posted by: ace at February 27, 2023 03:54 PM (C1Zwz)
Posted by: ace at February 27, 2023 03:49 PM (C1Zwz)
But he won the presidency. That was a W; then he had an L. New season. New opposing teams.
Posted by: m at February 27, 2023 03:55 PM (lhS81)
Philly, AZ, MI, and GA will make sure they lose.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, mired in filth and awfulness with Ralph Bakshi at February 27, 2023 03:52 PM (LvTSG)
Since when does inevitability factor in?
Start spouting some opinions!
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at February 27, 2023 03:55 PM (KbCG3)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at February 27, 2023 03:55 PM (Wl6Ns)
Meaning of 'NT' acronym post-Nov 2022: Pragmatic "Nevermore Trumper."
Posted by: gp Sets In Motion Various Apparatuses at February 27, 2023 03:55 PM (MvF+J)
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at February 27, 2023 03:55 PM (KbCG3)
=======
*considers mentioning Prometheus*
*thinks better of mentioning Prometheus and does not mention Prometheus*
*does own part to keep thread Prometheus free*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, mired in filth and awfulness with Ralph Bakshi at February 27, 2023 03:55 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: ace at February 27, 2023 03:49 PM (C1Zwz)
Ok, let's take that then: what will DeSantis (or can he) do to prevent the same thing?
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 27, 2023 03:56 PM (zZu0s)
you can understand how tired I am of hearing that Ron DeSantis is "stabbing Trump in the back" by not deferring to him eagerly enough
Posted by: ace at February 27, 2023 03:56 PM (C1Zwz)
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer
I liked Kathy Barnette. I sent her money, even though I don't live or vote in Pennsylvania. But as the campaign wore on and she went out with Doug Mastriano, they both sometimes came across as a little nuts.
Oz was closer to Fetterman than Mastriano was to Shapiro in the final voting; which likely didn't really matter because the outcome was likely rigged and corrupt.
Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at February 27, 2023 03:56 PM (vcOmj)
Posted by: ace at February 27, 2023 03:52 PM (C1Zwz)
Is the second one from Reddit? Because I'm pretty sure I saw something like that on Reddit. And I haven't watched a Marvel movie since the first Guardians of the Galaxy.
Posted by: Jordan61 at February 27, 2023 03:56 PM (DRSnL)
Posted by: Hope Solo at February 27, 2023 03:56 PM (dfz97)
Posted by: Bullwinkle J. Moose at February 27, 2023 03:56 PM (FJYfm)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at February 27, 2023 03:56 PM (44ww/)
That's what Donald should be focused on. Ridiculing and showing up the Biden Junta whenever he can.
Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at February 27, 2023 03:50 PM (vcOmj)
That is obviously his best strategy, and I'm glad he finally adopted it. You could do this every day of the campaign, and still not spotlight all the Biden incompetence and lack of care...
Posted by: Nova Local at February 27, 2023 03:56 PM (exHjb)
We see all kinds of dead people posting here fairly regularly, so that's not really a good guide.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at February 27, 2023 03:56 PM (Bd6X8)
>>DeSantis has never LOST a national election.
Heh.
--
National Plumbers Union, breaking pipes and Democracy Itself.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 27, 2023 03:56 PM (up/3i)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at February 27, 2023 03:56 PM (n1JsZ)
Posted by: ace at February 27, 2023 03:52 PM (C1Zwz)
I am weary of the weirdos, go with M-She-U.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 27, 2023 03:57 PM (yQpMk)
Posted by: sockamster, gator at February 27, 2023 03:57 PM (MLrvz)
Buckley was St. Conservative, and the one who said Bush wasn't a Conservative.
Posted by: Red Turban
==
Buckley was a non factor in the 2000's. Nobody listened to him did they. And he was dead in 2008. You proved my point. The mantle of St. Conservative was handed over to Bill Kristol - he was the grand ol man during W's years. most of the country club republicans thought of him as one of us. Deep state operator all the way. Just like the Bushies.
Posted by: Some men just want to see Politics BURN at February 27, 2023 03:57 PM (v1ALy)
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer
========
She was polling single digits until a surprise poll two weeks before the election where she was suddenly a strong third place.
Should Trump have cast aside his months of support for Oz because of one poll that said that Oz...was going to beat Barnette?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, mired in filth and awfulness with Ralph Bakshi at February 27, 2023 03:57 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Skip at February 27, 2023 03:57 PM (xhxe8)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at February 27, 2023 03:56 PM (n1JsZ)
It's true!
Posted by: m at February 27, 2023 03:57 PM (lhS81)
Desantis is going to light trump up when he’s good and ready. There’s so much low hanging fruit. I’d love an ad on how many times Trump flew on Epsteins jet. That’s fair right ?
Trump has not aged well, both him and his legacy. Guy comes off like a rambling crank now.
Posted by: Audio at February 27, 2023 03:57 PM (xy6lW)
Posted by: SMH at God's grace at February 27, 2023 03:44 PM (BQwGr)
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Southpaw at February 27, 2023 03:57 PM (xPJvm)
lol no not made up; it's a talking point that's being pushed by .. who? why? could be trump people could be other people
anyone who wants to change their mind on PDJT just hang out on Truth Social. go ahead I'll wait
dude has lost it somewhere along the way
Posted by: BlackOrchid at February 27, 2023 03:57 PM (w0NJk)
Wow lots of concert fans here!
Posted by: BourbonChicken at February 27, 2023 03:54 PM (44ww/)
Close.......
https://youtu.be/ndr4vQue6HY
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 27, 2023 03:57 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: ace
Polycule. We need chucklez.
Posted by: Hope Solo at February 27, 2023 03:57 PM (dfz97)
Posted by: EveR at February 27, 2023 03:57 PM (MUpk6)
Posted by: Puddinhead at February 27, 2023 03:58 PM (8Sqzu)
Posted by: Charlie Brown at February 27, 2023 03:58 PM (FJYfm)
Posted by: Marcus T at February 27, 2023 03:52 PM (ATSTk)
I hurt my back working at the post office filling the stamp machine back in 1985. Can't touch my toes or see my dick. Why do you want to force me back to work? Haven't I suffered enough? Oh, gotta go. Tee time at 4:00 pm!
Posted by: SSDI Layabout And Faker at February 27, 2023 03:58 PM (B/ami)
I dunno, but if you're right, and everything is "rigged" to make Trump the loser, then it really doesn't matter who the candidate is so why are you so invested?
If there's a chance -- just a chance -- that maybe Trump is a flawed candidate and is causing, say, his vote totals to fall beneath those of other Republicans running on the same ticket, or of Trump-backed candidates to run behind non-Trump candidates, then a non-Trump candidate COULD win a presidential race.
Or we just keep saying "rigged" to every race we lose.
Posted by: ace at February 27, 2023 03:58 PM (C1Zwz)
+1
Posted by: San Franpsycho at February 27, 2023 03:55 PM (Wl6Ns)
I hate that this might be a factor.
Posted by: m at February 27, 2023 03:58 PM (lhS81)
Posted by: bonhomme
*********
MILLIONS????? You got a citation for that?
Posted by: Muldoon at February 27, 2023 03:58 PM (ykeLU)
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it's just too bad that trump and the GOP are inpopular in states that airdrop ballots from a plane into 3 districts with bad watermains
Posted by: sockamster, gator at February 27, 2023 03:58 PM (MLrvz)
STEINER WILL COME
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at February 27, 2023 03:58 PM (4r1rb)
Posted by: JT at February 27, 2023 03:58 PM (T4tVD)
you can understand how tired I am of hearing that Ron DeSantis is "stabbing Trump in the back" by not deferring to him eagerly enough
Posted by: ace at February 27, 2023 03:56 PM (C1Zwz)
Doing a quick search in the thread that seems to basically be two rarely heard of nics. Any DeSantis v Trump threads seem to attract attention of this sort.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at February 27, 2023 03:58 PM (eYoxG)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at February 27, 2023 03:58 PM (9aINP)
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at February 27, 2023 03:55 PM
Ginger! .45s! Longbows!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 27, 2023 03:58 PM (plYRv)
https://valorguardians.com/blog/?p=137759
Posted by: SMH at God's grace at February 27, 2023 03:58 PM (BQwGr)
That's the question Trump needs to answer.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at February 27, 2023 03:51 PM (s4xcq)
Why can't it be both?
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at February 27, 2023 03:59 PM (BdMk6)
https://tinyurl.com/yckmx68m
Eh. I don't care. I care what the candidate does in office, not who else might agree with him.
Posted by: Archimedes at February 27, 2023 03:59 PM (eOEVl)
in the end, Doug was the problem and I do not trust him.
new to state legislature and his first thing was Act 70 which ruined our elections (even more). he was one of the Republicans pushing it.
dumb? or something else?
Posted by: BlackOrchid at February 27, 2023 03:59 PM (w0NJk)
Posted by: CtHillary, dead but dreaming at February 27, 2023 03:59 PM (zSyrn)
This is about me, isn't it?
Posted by: Generalissimo Francisco Franco at February 27, 2023 03:59 PM (FtKnZ)
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer
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She was polling single digits until a surprise poll two weeks before the election where she was suddenly a strong third place.
Should Trump have cast aside his months of support for Oz because of one poll that said that Oz...was going to beat Barnette?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, mired in filth and awfulness with Ralph Bakshi at February 27, 2023 03:57 PM (LvTSG)
It's more so the rush to endorse Oz. Going back to my original point about MAGA being larger than any one person, was Oz a natural extension of that platform?
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at February 27, 2023 03:59 PM (KbCG3)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 27, 2023 03:59 PM (E+05M)
in what sense has DeSantis stabbed Trump in the back? What do you think he owes him, exactly? Trump showed up to campaign for him four times, which is perfectly normal and expected behavior? DeSantis also campaigned for Trump in 2020 -- does Trump owe anything to DeSantis, or does it just work the one way?
Why does everyone owe loyalty to Trump? Is he a fucking King?
Posted by: ace at February 27, 2023 03:59 PM (C1Zwz)
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at February 27, 2023 03:59 PM (KbCG3)
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Oz was his second endorsement when his first choice, Sean Parnell, dropped out of the race.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, mired in filth and awfulness with Ralph Bakshi at February 27, 2023 04:00 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: m at February 27, 2023 04:00 PM (lhS81)
Posted by: JT at February 27, 2023 03:58 PM (T4tVD)
It is absolutely perfect in N TX right now.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 27, 2023 04:00 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: ace at February 27, 2023 03:58 PM (C1Zwz)
Some of us aren't super invested. But there's a pretty good argument to be made that we're better off with Trump as a losing candidate than DeSantis.
The governorship of Florida for one, less potential alienation of voters Trump brought into the coalition for a second. A plausible case may also be made that we're more certain that Trump will press the issue of voting fraud in the aftermath of a defeat.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at February 27, 2023 04:01 PM (eYoxG)
Posted by: Marcus T at February 27, 2023 04:01 PM (ATSTk)
This Ron guy fvcks.
Posted by: Hope Solo at February 27, 2023 04:01 PM (dfz97)
Posted by: JT at February 27, 2023 03:58 PM (T4tVD)
It is absolutely perfect in N TX right now.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 27, 2023 04:00 PM (Zz0t1)
Forecast here: snow tonight. Snow tomorrow. Snow Thursday. Snow Saturday and Sunday.
Posted by: Jordan61 at February 27, 2023 04:01 PM (DRSnL)
wow, he's beating the most unpopular president ever?
I guess we should just hope that Biden is 1, the candidate and 2, doesn't experience any improvements, and then we might be okay
Posted by: ace at February 27, 2023 03:50 PM (C1Zwz)
Where are the Dem presidential candidate alternatives to Brandon? How much money have they raised? How much print and face time have they received? The Dems have made sure that Trump is #1 hot political topic since 2016 and now that tactic is blowing up in their faces - bigly. The public distrust of the Administrative State is stunning. And the number one public enemy of the Administrative State is Donald Trump.
Posted by: mrp at February 27, 2023 04:02 PM (rj6Yv)
We see all kinds of dead people posting here fairly regularly, so that's not really a good guide.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310
*shifty eyes, leaves building*
Posted by: Fat Elvis at February 27, 2023 04:02 PM (v0R5T)
Sí se puede!!
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at February 27, 2023 04:02 PM (4r1rb)
Posted by: ace at February 27, 2023 03:59 PM (C1Zwz)
Because if you don't, even if you're on his side, he will destroy you. But if you do, you can be his enemy and stab him in the back and he won't believe you did.
It's another reason his "people" were so problematic last admin...
Posted by: Nova Local at February 27, 2023 04:02 PM (exHjb)
Posted by: Marcus T
He didn't send Kari Lake one dime while he's flush with funds.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 27, 2023 04:02 PM (E+05M)
Posted by: Eromero at February 27, 2023 04:02 PM (MF3yS)
Posted by: m at February 27, 2023 04:00 PM (lhS81)
You know what else made him look pretty old? The fact that he IS pretty old. It obviously doesn't hurt him if Biden is the Dem nominee, but if not, he's in trouble.
Posted by: Wally at February 27, 2023 04:03 PM (FJYfm)
Political suicide. I'd be lucky to land a cushy corporate job at some nominally right of center think tank that doesn't even have a blog.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 27, 2023 04:03 PM (Q4IgG)
Posted by: Skip at February 27, 2023 04:03 PM (xhxe8)
Right. ecause the guy who won by 20% clearly hasn't done anything to ensure that voting fraud isn't occurring.
Posted by: Archimedes at February 27, 2023 04:03 PM (eOEVl)
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so if there is any chance that Trump won't win and there is any chance that someone else might win, get rid of Trump? I mean, that seems predetermined to get to a desired result rather than an exercise in rigorous logic based upon empirical evidence.
Posted by: its kinda of funny tho at February 27, 2023 04:04 PM (v1ALy)
in what sense has DeSantis stabbed Trump in the back? What do you think he owes him, exactly? Trump showed up to campaign for him four times, which is perfectly normal and expected behavior? DeSantis also campaigned for Trump in 2020 -- does Trump owe anything to DeSantis, or does it just work the one way?
Why does everyone owe loyalty to Trump? Is he a fucking King?
Posted by: ace at February 27, 2023 03:59 PM (C1Zwz)
Until DeSantis announces his candidacy, I consider all of the dissing and jawboning moot.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at February 27, 2023 04:04 PM (BdMk6)
Posted by: Hope Solo at February 27, 2023 04:04 PM (dfz97)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 27, 2023 04:00 PM
Snow coming.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 27, 2023 04:04 PM (plYRv)
Posted by: CtHillary, dead but dreaming at February 27, 2023 04:05 PM (zSyrn)
He and his daughter are now the toast of the lefties.
They will be relentless on DeSantis.. they already started.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 27, 2023 04:05 PM (w/RvR)
I wouldn't be surprised if it were true but I have seen no data on it
We see all kinds of dead people posting here fairly regularly, so that's not really a good guide.
*waves at Buzzion*
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 27, 2023 04:05 PM (0hOvj)
Posted by: m at February 27, 2023 04:05 PM (lhS81)
Right. ecause the guy who won by 20% clearly hasn't done anything to ensure that voting fraud isn't occurring.
Posted by: Archimedes at February 27, 2023 04:03 PM (eOEVl)
In the aftermath of defeat, not victory. Trump very clearly makes an issue of 2020 fraud in a very public fashion.
DeSantis supporters have been eager to assure us that DeSantis would never be so unseemly.
Hence the plausible case that Trump would make more of an issue of it.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at February 27, 2023 04:05 PM (eYoxG)
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The U.S. Government Accountability Office (GAO) reviewed the implementation of E.O. 13957 and shared its findings in a report on September 28, 2022. The report noted that no federal agencies had implemented Schedule F by the time the executive order was revoked by President Joe Biden (D) on January 22, 2021.
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Posted by: Lola at February 27, 2023 04:05 PM (GshMh)
Posted by: ace at February 27, 2023 03:49 PM (C1Zwz)
Trump 2020 had coattails. It is preferable to run someone they feel obliged to cheat blatantly against than someone they don't feel obliged to cheat blatantly against. Relieving them of that treasonous duty is a terrible awful idea.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at February 27, 2023 04:06 PM (44ww/)
Why? There are lots of voters who like Jeb! (well, some, anyway). OK, a few. There is no percentage in needlessly antagonizing them if you don't need to.
Again, watch what he does, not who likes him.
Posted by: Archimedes at February 27, 2023 04:07 PM (eOEVl)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 27, 2023 04:07 PM (XF9Gj)
This is fucking maddening, you just make shit up.
No wonder you like Trump.
Posted by: ace at February 27, 2023 03:54 PM (C1Zwz)
Ace is attacking Trump. Therefore Ace is a DeSantis surrogate.
QED.
It's easy if you know how to do this stuff.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 27, 2023 04:07 PM (XIJ/X)
Would these be the same anonymous supporters who are stabbing Trump in the back?
Posted by: Archimedes at February 27, 2023 04:08 PM (eOEVl)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at February 27, 2023 04:08 PM (44ww/)
Posted by: m at February 27, 2023 04:08 PM (lhS81)
Don't run against Trump. That love runs deep.
Posted by: Seems Legit at February 27, 2023 04:08 PM (DcKNO)
Posted by: Skip at February 27, 2023 04:08 PM (xhxe8)
Posted by: ace
++
Well, the guy, at some personal expense (no salary -and plenty of legal fees and grief personally and family) and considerable grief which will probably follow him and his family to his grave, tried to help us. And for a couple of years did it. Didn't break his word, maybe couldn't keep it on every single promise, but tried. So, i respect the sacrifice. And the service to the Country. I credit that experience and the ongoing willingness to fight to him. Like I would to a veteran. Its not automatic and it can be revoked. YMMV
Posted by: now that you mention it at February 27, 2023 04:09 PM (4T1zb)
in what sense has DeSantis stabbed Trump in the back? What do you think he owes him, exactly? Trump showed up to campaign for him four times, which is perfectly normal and expected behavior? DeSantis also campaigned for Trump in 2020 -- does Trump owe anything to DeSantis, or does it just work the one way?
Why does everyone owe loyalty to Trump? Is he a fucking King?
Posted by: ace
......
Personally, I don't think we will be done with Trump until he either dies or slinks away after an epic defeat. I know no one who is in the least bit Conservative that will vote for the man. We just all want him to go away.
So, I am pretty much counting on 4 more years of Dem rule in D.C.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 27, 2023 04:09 PM (w/RvR)
Posted by: Marcus T
This.
And yet, some folks think Ronaldus Maximus II is squishy because Jeb endorsed him a race back in pre-Rona.
Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free Republic of Florida at February 27, 2023 04:10 PM (MkuC5)
Would these be the same anonymous supporters who are stabbing Trump in the back?
Posted by: Archimedes at February 27, 2023 04:08 PM (eOEVl)
Look, Trump being "fixated" on 2020 and complaining about it too much has been put forth by certain regular commenters as a reason to prefer DeSantis
We know exactly how Trump would respond to a 2024 defeat since we saw 2020. I quite liked that he didn't let the issue drop.
At best DeSantis may act similarly (not a sure thing unlike Trump), in which case his supporters are wrong about this. But certainly there is a case to be made that he would not.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at February 27, 2023 04:10 PM (eYoxG)
He and his daughter are now the toast of the lefties.
They will be relentless on DeSantis.. they already started.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry
==
It pains me to agree with Chi Town Jerry.
And raise him, John Fucking Bolton.
Posted by: now that you mention it at February 27, 2023 04:11 PM (jsLOh)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 27, 2023 03:59 PM (E+05M)
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His kids seem pretty squared away at this point ... but so did Ted Cruz's seven years ago --and now it's even odds that he ends up with a son-in-law named Ivanka or similar.
Posted by: ShainS -- Transgenderism is the Tip of the Transhumanism Spear at February 27, 2023 04:13 PM (AlCoY)
Tell Dave Reaboi they need better talking points than “Trump totally lost guys, don’t believe your lying eyes.”
Posted by: TransitionTranny at February 27, 2023 04:22 PM (UpqHf)
Posted by: Nova Local at February 27, 2023 04:02 PM (exHjb)
His people were problematic because as an actual outsider he didn't have a government waiting in the wings to take over. He got a staff full of acquaintances and suggestions from "allies", and although some of them were intelligent more than a few of them also clearly refused to be subordinate to Trump.
The media also played up any discord or staffing changes with wall to wall coverage to try and extract a political cost any time he replaced anyone in the hopes of prolonging the problems for as long as possible. McConnell also encouraged this strife by slow walking executive appointments, threatening to not confirm replacements, and refusing to formally recess to prevent ever filling vacancies without a vote. His appointments were much more solid the last couple years of his administration.
I feel like holding the early staffing problems against Trump is a very dangerous line to take because you're effectively locking in to only supporting professional career politicians if you insist on smooth transitions, and rewarding resistance! bureaucrat BS.
Posted by: Sjg at February 27, 2023 04:31 PM (gDSJf)
Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at February 27, 2023 03:50 PM (vcOmj)
****
Shad up Milton. Freaking GOPer milquetoast.
Posted by: ZGlowie at February 27, 2023 04:38 PM (L7p8z)
Do you think either was elected, in the sense that we used to use that term?
Posted by: Ted Torgerson DeSantis/Lake 2024 at February 27, 2023 05:14 PM (vN+oL)
First we need a house cleaning in the electorate.
Posted by: GWB at February 27, 2023 05:55 PM (NJ9MR)
DeSantis, like all other Republicans before him, is going to get his ass kicked by the evil Orange Man. And even if he doesn’t, he is alienating the evil Orange Man’s stupid (inbred even) supporters, who will never forgive DeSantis for going up against America’s Hitler.
I have no clue what the hell DeSantis is thinking that he has to move now to achieve his Presidential ambitions.
Well, at least he has some of the Murdoch family; and of course Jeb Bush, John Cardillo, Blue State CBD, and Deuce of Clubs in his corner.
But, in short, unless the evil Orange Man is taken out by the Deep State (jailed or terminated with extreme prejudice), DeSantis is being played for a fool.
Posted by: Dummy #43 at February 27, 2023 06:55 PM (FkMTW)
Posted by: Mozam at February 27, 2023 07:06 PM (ea+OK)
Posted by: Mozam at February 27, 2023 07:10 PM (ea+OK)
Or, are you saying DeSantis can win because elections are fair and Biden totally won?
Posted by: Karen at February 27, 2023 07:37 PM (1jJQ7)
Electing Desantis doesn't right any of those wrongs, nor will it undo the irreparable damage done to the United States, because of the 2020 theft.
And you mention Brian Kemp who can GO FUCK HIMSELF! That man is a putrid bit of human excrement. I hope he gets what he deserves one day.
As for the rest of the Republicans, just go away and let us watch your party die. You had your chance to fight for LAW and JUSTICE and you chose political expediency and donors over the real voters of America.
Posted by: Tracy at February 27, 2023 11:06 PM (e5pXS)
Trump just released his Agenda 47 outlining his economic strategy for the future. Where is Ron's? Oh wait, is he running? Ask Jeb!.
Posted by: Danimal28 at February 28, 2023 07:38 AM (klw0w)
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