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The Morning Report — 2/20/23

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Good morning kids. Happy President's Day, which is a total joke considering it completely subsumes George Washington and Abraham Lincoln and throws them in with the likes of James Buchanan, Woodrow Wilson, FDR, LBJ and the jug-eared dog-eater. Sponge-Brain Shits-Pants is an asterisk. Then again, America today is an asterisk in the wake of the events of 2020. And if you consider that the asterisk resembles a certain anatomical aperture. IIRC it's called the buttigieg. But I digress.

The top story continues to be the toxic waste disaster that is threatening to turn southeastern Ohio and perhaps beyond into a sort of chemical Chernobyl. As bad as the initial derailment and spill of thousands of gallons of vinyl chloride, somehow the geniuses on the ground who are charged with mitigating the contamination and cleaning up the mess decided to open the valves on the tank cars that had only been derailed and were still sealed . . . and then toss a match to it.

I'll be the first to admit to not being Red Adair, and that being a model railroad hobbyist who also got a B in high school chemistry does not make me an expert in this kind of situation. But, as CBD and I incredulously pondered on the latest episode of the podcast (linked here and in the sidebar) how could those tasked with mitigating the problem and cleaning up the spill intentionally turn a serious but perhaps containable/controllable accident into a massive environmental and health disaster that will no doubt turn East Palestine and the surrounding region into a toxic wasteland perhaps for years if not decades to come?

I am a retired engineer having significant experience with pressure vessels and some background with DoT tank regulations.  I offer my thoughts based on limited knowledge and a little thinking.

From what I could learn, the contents of the tank(s) were becoming unstable and pressure was increasing.  It was feared that the tank would explode and send shrapnel everywhere.  So the decision was made to relieve the pressure with a “controlled burn.”  This story raises many questions that must be answered.

The first question is, what was causing the pressure to build?  Physically there is no difference between a tank sitting on its wheels on a track and a tank lying on its side on the ground.  There is nothing about a tank lying on the ground that would cause pressure to build.  Was there a fire around the rail cars?  I’ve seen nothing indicating that this was the case, nor is it likely there was a wild land fire in the middle of winter in Ohio.  How did they know pressure was building?  Were they monitoring a pressure gauge on the tank?  If so, they were close enough to put out any fire that might be threatening the tank.  Furthermore, transport tanks are equipped with a pressure relief valve that would not allow pressure to build enough to burst them.  Note:  if the contents of a transport tank are so hazardous that they are unsafe to vent via a relief valve, additional requirements are imposed on tank strength and integrity during accidents. 

Because rollovers and derailments are expected, hazardous transport tanks are designed to survive them.  They are also designed with rollover protection so that fill connections are protected to remain accessible and functional in the case of these accidents.  This would have allowed responders to connect to and empty the tanks into alternates such as over-the-road tanks and then hauled away.  Why was this approach rejected?

Finally, these tanks are made of ductile material, typically mild carbon steel. They do not eject shrapnel whey they burst.  Rather, they split apart with all material remaining contiguously attached.  The tank itself might become airborne, but it would not break up into pieces.  Why was the governor of Ohio told the tank would produce shrapnel? Even if the shrapnel scenario were true, how would that be more hazardous than releasing tons of hazardous acid and toxic fumes?

As I had stated on Friday, the railroads, like virtually every other aspect of life in general is now regulated out the wah-zoo. There are 74,532 pages of regulations in the Federal Register, all enacted by unelected bureaucrats yet carry the force of civil and criminal penalties. You can bet your balls to a barn door that railroads and how they handle cargo, especially toxic cargo, comprise more than just a handful of those pages. Not just railroads but as the author notes, the construction of the tank cars down to every last nut, bolt, washer and cotter pin.

Perhaps the prime indisputable, inescapable and immutable law of nature is this: SHIT HAPPENS. We get into trouble when we think we have the ability to prevent things from happening just because we pass laws or issue regulations. That is the fatal conceit of Leftists, in that they believe beyond all doubt despite 10,000-plus years of recorded history to the contrary, that they can regulate life to the point of guaranteeing our personal safety. All we have to do in return is give up our freedom. And therein lies another rub in that those who assume that the Left does this merely for altruistic reasons also have not paid attention to what has transpired over that aforementioned time period. Hell, just the past 100 years alone is enough evidence. But I digress.

The author of this essay rightly points out that there are so many safety features designed into these tank cars, which have been transporting and continue to transport millions upon millions of gallons of some of the most toxic substances you can imagine across thousands of miles of railroad track for decades, that even a nasty spill like this should not have gone from a serious incident into a disaster of historic proportions. Something is afoot here. If it's some sort of criminal sabotage that caused the train to jump the track that's bad enough. Equally bad is poor maintenance of the trackage and/or the trucks (wheels) of the cars that derailed. By the way, the evil greedy railroads are required by laws and regulations to inspect and replace wheels and other elements of the rolling stock on a regular basis. And the evil greedy railroads are mostly owned by Democrat-Leftist financial institutions like Blackrock and Vanguard.

So whatever caused the derailment, malfeasance or criminal sabotage/terrorism should, of course, be thoroughly investigated. That said, if it turns out to be the latter, I fully expect a coverup by the DOJ/FBI should it be either the E.L.F. or Isis. Meh, they're probably trying to tie this to some pro-Trump MAGA people as we speak (do I sound jaded?).

But the issue here is the reaction to this. Given all we know about the nature of these tank cars and their general record of safety over the course of decades, whatever accidents and spills that may have occurred in that time frame notwithstanding, how could those charged with mitigating the problem have thought it wise to empty thousands of gallons of safely contained chemicals and then put a match to the whole thing?

There are only two possible reasons I can think of: rank incompetence or intentional criminal malice. That said, more often than not, they go together (like ramma-lamma-lamma). As was noted, East Palestine and its environs voted overwhelmingly for Trump in the past two elections. Is it crazy to believe that someone in the government ordered the people on the ground to do this and that those on the ground without hesitation just followed orders unquestioningly? The chain of command that stretches from D.C. to Columbus and to East Palestine must include dozens or hundreds of people. Surely at least one of them said that torching the tank cars was madness? This entire episode paints a truly frightening picture of human nature, the level of competency of those charged with our safety, on the ground and behind a desk, and worse, pure evil if doing this was an act of political retribution.

If you think that that stinks, I direct your attention to the skies above Montana:

The administration immediately claimed the balloon was a Chinese Spy Balloon, and yet when asked the obvious question — why was it not shot down — the administration responded that the debris could harm civilians on the ground.

The same administration just sat idly by as deadly vinyl chloride was recently lit on fire in Palestine, Ohio — spewing poisonous gases into the air. That harm to nearby residents seems to be of little concern to the Biden administration.

But when it came to an alleged Chinese spy balloon soaring above a state with the third lowest population density, the administration was very concerned with debris harming…just who and what exactly? . .

. . . One explanation for the Biden administration’s sudden policy change — from 'it is a threat, but we can’t shoot it down', to 'it likely ,i>isn’t a threat so we must shoot it down' — is that it’s a pathetic effort by the Administration to virtue signal its sudden concern for our national security and counteract criticism of incompetence and weakness.

While possible, it fails to explain why the administration was so reluctant to shoot down the Chinese Spy Balloon.

One theory for this is that the Biden administration is bought and paid for by the communist Chinese. While it’s true that Biden and other officials are certainly compromised by the Chinese, what if the balloon had nothing to do with China? What if the ‘Chinese Spy Balloon’ was actually a U.S. Spy Balloon? What if the administration’s insistence that it was Chinese was actually a convenient narrative to hide an even more alarming secret? . . .

. . . Jay Stanley, a senior policy analyst at the American Civil Liberties Union, expressed concern that “Even in tests, they’re still collecting a lot of data on Americans: who’s driving to the union house, the church, the mosque, the Alzheimer’s clinic. “We should not go down the road of allowing this to be used in the United States, and it’s disturbing to hear that these tests are being carried out, by the military no less.”

While this technology may not be exclusive to the United States, the description of the balloon — both in size and capability — matches that described recently soaring over Montana. Notably, the balloons are subject to fewer restrictions and regulations than drones.

Furthermore, private companies like ‘World View’ are dedicated to advancing this very technology. World View purports to be “a global leader in stratospheric exploration and flight.” . . .

. . . The FCC filing also suggested that the balloons might also carry a Sierra Nevada video capture system called Gorgon Stare; a wide-area surveillance system comprised of nine cameras capable of recording panoramic images across an entire city simultaneously.

Despite Biden’s worrisome ties to China, it makes more sense that the administration was reluctant to shoot the balloon down because it was part of a U.S. DARPA program — a U.S. balloon — rather than a Chinese spy balloon.

The question isn’t what is China doing with these balloons, but what is the U.S. government doing with these balloons and what are they being used for.

Coincidentally, just weeks before the supposed Chinese Spy Balloon was seen hovering over Billings, Montana, the stratospheric exploration leader World View announced a merger agreement to create a public company with the Leo Holdings Corp — a deal valued at $350 million dollars.

It’s no secret that the U.S. Government has invested heavily in these spy balloons and the administration has repeatedly sought to normalize their existence; even claiming that the Biden administration had learned that such balloons had been detected during the Trump administration, unbeknownst to Trump and his own officials.

ADDENDUM: The Chi-Coms are indeed screaming bloody murder about us shooting down their balloon and demanding we return the wreckage. That said, did the Chi-Com balloon overflight accidentally reveal the existence of our own spy balloons that are surveilling the American citizenry? That sounds rather plausible to me.

They're from the government and they're here to help you. By the way, I saw Gorgon Stare open for Kraftwerk at the Sportspalast in '33 . . .

    ABOVE THE FOLD, BREAKING, NOTEWORTHY

  • Jay Stanley, a senior policy analyst at the American Civil Liberties Union, expressed concern that “Even in tests, they’re still collecting a lot of data on Americans: who’s driving to the union house, the church, the mosque, the Alzheimer’s clinic. “We should not go down the road of allowing this to be used in the United States, and it’s disturbing to hear that these tests are being carried out, by the military no less.”
    Could the 'Chinese Spy Balloon' Have Been a US Spy Balloon?
  • “Abortion-rights activists were already launching attacks on pregnancy resource centers online.”
    Pro-Lifers in the Crosshairs
  • Lloyd Billingsley: "Slain DHS whistleblower declared a criminal and remains under investigation by Customs and Border Protection for 'contraband' and possible U.S. Code violations."
    FBI Deepens the Mystery of Philip Haney

NOTE: The opinions expressed in the links may or may not reflect my own. I include them because of their relevance to the discussion of a particular issue.

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Posted by: J.J. Sefton at 07:47 AM




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1 WTFO??

Posted by: rhennigantx at February 20, 2023 07:46 AM (BRHaw)

2 hiya

Posted by: JT at February 20, 2023 07:46 AM (T4tVD)

3 Hola

Posted by: Thanatopsis at February 20, 2023 07:46 AM (V12Hg)

4 Thank you, J.J.!!

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 20, 2023 07:47 AM (uLr+K)

5 morning horde.

top 10 ftw.

even if it is a monday...

Posted by: SturmToddler at February 20, 2023 07:47 AM (Mkvkw)

6 Sponge-Brain Shits-Pants is an asterisk.

E-I-E-I-O

Posted by: JT at February 20, 2023 07:48 AM (T4tVD)

7 -- But, as CBD and I incredulously pondered... --

Is it possible to ponder incredulously? I simply must try it!

Posted by: Francis W. Porretto at February 20, 2023 07:48 AM (Nmmyc)

8 Happy Monday, one and all. I have the day off, am working on my first cup of coffee and the dogs are asleep.

Posted by: NR Pax at February 20, 2023 07:50 AM (ugXwy)

9 Presidents and the bureaucrats who work for them suck. They are bad people with Borderline Personality Disorder, or worse.

Is Jimmy Carter,
Dead Yet?

Posted by: Marooned at February 20, 2023 07:50 AM (kt8QE)

10 Not feeling this President's Day when most of the Presidents this century have turned out to be shit.

Posted by: fd at February 20, 2023 07:51 AM (iayUP)

11 7 -- But, as CBD and I incredulously pondered... --

Is it possible to ponder incredulously? I simply must try it!
Posted by: Francis W. Porretto at February 20, 2023 07:48 AM (Nmmyc)


"Weak and Weary is my law firm."

- - E.A. Poe

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 20, 2023 07:51 AM (x0n13)

12 "Regulated Out The Wah Zoo"...Just Another Reason To Abolish The Federal Government.

Never Give Up Your Guns!

Rootin For Putin!

Free Buffalo Guy!

More coffee...

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 20, 2023 07:53 AM (z1bdm)

13 Good morning horde!

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 20, 2023 07:54 AM (z99Zw)

14 "Why Would Anyone Want to Be a Cop in Los Angeles Today?"

Why would anyone want to be a cop anywhere? I don't think many sign up to serve and protect the public anymore.

Posted by: fd at February 20, 2023 07:54 AM (iayUP)

15 Is Jimmy Carter,
Dead Yet?
Posted by: Marooned at February 20, 2023 07:50 AM (kt8QE)

Soon.....Very soon.

Posted by: Satan, Laughing And Spreading His Wings at February 20, 2023 07:55 AM (z1bdm)

16 Rootin for Putin is right. I'm hoping for a Yamamoto moment.

Posted by: fd at February 20, 2023 07:55 AM (iayUP)

17 I remember Nikki Haley railing against the mythical racists who hung the noose in Bubba's NASCAR garage.

We have moved beyond her, and her indecisive leadership abilities.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 20, 2023 07:56 AM (uLr+K)

18 Just Another Reason To Abolish The Federal Government.

The feds have a purpose but it needs to be forced to stay in that lane.

Posted by: NR Pax at February 20, 2023 07:56 AM (ugXwy)

19 The praise coming out for Carter is making me ill. These bastards have destroyed my country and I'm glad to see 'em go.

Posted by: fd at February 20, 2023 07:56 AM (iayUP)

20 The non-response to the derailment and resulting catastrophe in East Palestine should raise serious questions about the role of the federal government by itself. But, Bai-Den travelling to the Ukraine, and PDTS travelling to Ohio tells you everything you need to know about the priorities of this administration.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at February 20, 2023 07:57 AM (+2RzF)

21 Presidents' Day, my ass!

Get Lincoln's and Washington's birthdays back as separate, paid holidays!

Posted by: homer simpson at February 20, 2023 07:57 AM (Vwz3I)

22 President Biden on Thursday signed an executive order that directs all federal agencies to produce an annual “equity action plan” aimed at removing barriers to agency resources for “underserved communities.”

From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs "
( German: Jeder nach seinen Fähigkeiten, jedem nach seinen Bedürfnissen)

Posted by: rhennigantx at February 20, 2023 07:58 AM (BRHaw)

23 19 The praise coming out for Carter is making me ill. These bastards have destroyed my country and I'm glad to see 'em go.
Posted by: fd at February 20, 2023 07:56 AM (iayUP)


The old Investors Business Daily had a series of articles on the abject failure/catastrophe of Carter. It came out just before the 2008 election IIRC.

I have a link but it's a PDF.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 20, 2023 07:58 AM (x0n13)

24 Happy President's Day!

Posted by: redridinghood at February 20, 2023 07:59 AM (NpAcC)

25 Yonder Horde.

We're getting a taste of the future with regards to the rail disaster. The competence of those on the scene is the same as the competence of your new airline pilot, surgeon, structural engineer, etc. Woke, unqualified to do the job and very, very stupid.

The collapse, it continues apace.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 20, 2023 08:00 AM (Q4IgG)

26 The praise coming out for Carter is making me ill. These bastards have destroyed my country and I'm glad to see 'em go.
Posted by: fd at February 20, 2023 07:56 AM (iayUP)

Did they talk about Carter's support of segregation?

Posted by: dantesed at February 20, 2023 08:00 AM (88xKn)

27 Today is also National Cherry Pie Day!

Posted by: redridinghood at February 20, 2023 08:00 AM (NpAcC)

28 IMHO, the lesson from East Palestine is (beyond JJ’s shit happens, which is definitely true) that competence is becoming an endangered species in our culture. Why? Many reasons I’m sure but a primary factor is lack of common sense (particularly true amongst our educated “elites” coupled with an automatic instinct towards CYA. Bureaucrats are CYA personified. Bureaucrats with PhDs…. Even worse. And I say this as someone with a PhD

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at February 20, 2023 08:00 AM (s7suz)

29 20 Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at February 20, 2023 07:57 AM (+2RzF)

Well, there was a response to the derailment. Make it 1,000 times worse.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 20, 2023 08:00 AM (x0n13)

30 "Today is also National Cherry Pie Day!
Posted by: redridinghood"

Now that's more like it!

*digs out Warrant CD.*

Posted by: fd at February 20, 2023 08:00 AM (iayUP)

31 If you think the praise for Carter is sickening, just wait until Clinton dies.

Posted by: davidt at February 20, 2023 08:01 AM (SYTee)

32 Hi, folks! I'm popping in on a weekday thread for some shameless self-promotion. My book on Chinese military history is now out for folks who are interested. Yes, it's on eeevil Amazon, but it already hit #1 for new releases on Chinese History, so let's make Bezos cry harder about having to pay Moron authors.

The title is Walls of Men: A Military History of China 2500 B.C. to A.D. 2020. Sorry, no balloon antics, but I do look at how Chinese culture is decidedly hostile to martial activity and the problems China is facing today. You can ask for it by name or click the link in my nic. I'm now going to go back into news avoidance mode.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 20, 2023 08:01 AM (llXky)

33 If you think the praise for Carter is sickening, just wait until Clinton dies.
Posted by: davidt

Which one ?

Posted by: JT at February 20, 2023 08:01 AM (T4tVD)

34 "If you think the praise for Carter is sickening, just wait until Clinton dies."

Permanant stiffy.

Posted by: fd at February 20, 2023 08:02 AM (iayUP)

35 Today is also National Cherry Pie Day!
Posted by: redridinghood at February 20, 2023 08:00 AM (NpAcC)

***

About damn time!

Posted by: Warrant at February 20, 2023 08:02 AM (flINI)

36 Hmmm, what I wonder is if we are watching the cover up now.

-eco terrorists derail the train and set the chemicals on fire. (note: all of the food production fires that seem to have no cause.) Government comes through and hush everything up as they are doing with the food production fires.

The thing is, all of our information is shit, so it is kind of hard to tell what is smoke and mirrors and what isn't.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 20, 2023 08:02 AM (zZu0s)

37 It's not a federal holiday here but Ontario, Alberta, and Saskatchewan have Family Day today.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at February 20, 2023 08:02 AM (Vwz3I)

38 33 If you think the praise for Carter is sickening, just wait until Clinton dies.
Posted by: davidt

Which one ?

Posted by: JT at February 20, 2023 08:01 AM (T4tVD)

Yes.

Posted by: davidt at February 20, 2023 08:02 AM (SYTee)

39 Biden is in Kyiv, to meet with Zelensky and bring him a big check.
Evidently he made a surprise visit and is now departing.

Posted by: redridinghood at February 20, 2023 08:03 AM (NpAcC)

40 And yesterday at Insty's No crEd ran shit praising Carter.

No thnaks.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at February 20, 2023 08:03 AM (Vwz3I)

41
Carter should be thanked for one reason: his incompetence paved the way for the Reagan years.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 20, 2023 08:03 AM (x0n13)

42 I just had to double check to see if Carter kicked it and I had missed it.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 20, 2023 08:04 AM (zZu0s)

43 If you think the praise for Carter is sickening, just wait until Clinton dies.
Posted by: davidt at February 20, 2023 08:01 AM (SYTee)

***

It will be amped up 80 fold when Preznit Urkel X attains room temperature

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at February 20, 2023 08:04 AM (flINI)

44 Always keep this in your back pocket when Cousin Karen gets on her tax cuts roll:

You can’t blame the exploding deficit on the Trump tax cuts. Before Biden took office, the CBO’s “baseline” forecast for total federal revenues over the next decade was $49 trillion. Now it’s $55 trillion. That’s a $6 trillion increase.

He said it would add 10% and it is closer to 12%.

Posted by: rhennigantx at February 20, 2023 08:05 AM (BRHaw)

45 >>If you think the praise for Carter is sickening, just wait until Clinton dies.

The waiting is the hardest part.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 20, 2023 08:05 AM (ZLI7S)

46 Is Sir Harry Flashman's memoirs one of your sources, Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd??

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at February 20, 2023 08:05 AM (Vwz3I)

47 Today is Mitch McConnell's birthday. He turns 81.

Posted by: redridinghood at February 20, 2023 08:07 AM (NpAcC)

48 The pictures of Carter hobnobbing with Biden should remind folks of what he was, a yellow dog Democrat of the worst order.

Posted by: fd at February 20, 2023 08:07 AM (iayUP)

49 No thnaks.
------------------
I'm trying to cut down.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at February 20, 2023 08:07 AM (Vwz3I)

50 It's on GP so maybe it's not true. A piece about government releasing "My ID emergency service to track biometrics in E. Palestine" 1 week before the accident? I find nothing hard to believe anymore.

Posted by: Fool Otto at February 20, 2023 08:07 AM (DB16e)

51 Good morning horde
Bought Philip Haney's book yesterday
See Something, Say Nothing

Posted by: Skip at February 20, 2023 08:08 AM (yCVmv)

52 47 Today is Mitch McConnell's birthday. He turns 81.
Posted by: redridinghood at February 20, 2023 08:07 AM (NpAcC)


Elaine Chao rove him rong time. . . .

Emphasis on "Rove"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 20, 2023 08:08 AM (x0n13)

53 From GP
"Bob Moore, a 70-year-old farmer and longtime resident of East Palestine, initially ignored local news reports urging residents to sign up for “MyID” to receive a new biometric tracking device that provides first responders updates about an individual’s health conditions amid an emergency or “major disaster.”

Posted by: Fool Otto at February 20, 2023 08:08 AM (DB16e)

54 So the other day we were at the National Portrait Gallery.

I finally got to see both the official Clinton and Obama displays.

Yeh......no.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 20, 2023 08:09 AM (uLr+K)

55 Common thread: if it's not malice it's malfeasance.

Posted by: torabora at February 20, 2023 08:09 AM (OUiUM)

56 DeSantis on FOX and Friends, seems very skeptical of our objectives in Ukraine, decries the blank check McConnell has given them, Russia is not the enemy or power we make them out to be.

Sounds very Trumpy.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 20, 2023 08:10 AM (up/3i)

57 55 Common thread: if it's not malice it's malfeasance.
Posted by: torabora at February 20, 2023 08:09 AM (OUiUM)


Malic-feasance. It's new!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 20, 2023 08:10 AM (x0n13)

58 Stupid question.
If Biden were suffering from dementia or Alzheimer's, how would he be different in public than what we are seeing now being played out on the international stage?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 20, 2023 08:11 AM (uLr+K)

59 The railroad thing in Ohio was an op bu the Wasgington City government.

Posted by: Eromero at February 20, 2023 08:12 AM (Z1jJH)

60 There's no such thing as a 'surprise visit' by a head of state, especially in a 'war zone'. Things are locked down and so tightly controlled, you couldn't pound a toothpick in someone's ass with a sledgehammer. Joe's just out collecting his mordida and making sure Z doesn't expose him and the rest of the grifters by pledging another .5B that we don't have..

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at February 20, 2023 08:12 AM (+2RzF)

61 At dentist, can't spell.

Posted by: Eromero at February 20, 2023 08:13 AM (Z1jJH)

62 "At dentist, can't spell."

Pulled your wisdom teeth, did they?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 20, 2023 08:14 AM (uLr+K)

63 61 At dentist, can't spell.
Posted by: Eromero at February 20, 2023 08:13 AM (Z1jJH)


He shot your fingers with novocaine?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 20, 2023 08:14 AM (x0n13)

64 "If you think the praise for Carter is sickening, just wait until Clinton dies.

Posted by: davidt "

Amazing watching how leftists/MSM are suddenly speak so respectfully of the beliefs of practicing Christian and his sky God. Brings a tear to my how they have suddenly found religion.


I'm bracing for the funeral. Will it be a bigger deal then the recently ended McCain ceremonies?

Posted by: Ripley at February 20, 2023 08:14 AM (cUYo/)

65 Since this happened on the weekend, I think we need to blame the Biden administration for formenting the hate to cause an assassination of a Catholic leader. What? You know that's what the other side would call this, and since no one knows yet who shot and killed the Catholic bishop, who can dispute the FBI's hate caused this?

Catholic Auxillary Bishop shot dead in LA. (And this isn't even front page stuff anywhere)...

https://wtop.com/national/2023/02/ report-california-bishop-found-dead-of-gunshot-wound/

Posted by: Nova Local at February 20, 2023 08:14 AM (exHjb)

66 Mornin’, All. Happy Margarita Monday.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 20, 2023 08:15 AM (hTf8I)

67 More than 46,000 dead in Turkish-Syrian quake; Turks now cutting back on rescue operations.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at February 20, 2023 08:15 AM (Vwz3I)

68 >>There's no such thing as a 'surprise visit' by a head of state, especially in a 'war zone'.

There is already reporting that the Biden administration told Russia Biden was going to be in Ukraine today so no bombing.

It's just more staged bullshit to appease the rubes.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 20, 2023 08:15 AM (ZLI7S)

69 Could the 'Chinese Spy Balloon' Have Been a US Spy Balloon?

When the DoD organization dedicated, staffed for, and experienced in reverse engineering threat systems (DIA) was not delivered the remains and they were instead delivered to the eff bee eye...that's all I needed to know about whom the real owner of the damned balloon was.

Posted by: BifBewalski at February 20, 2023 08:15 AM (3CCua)

70 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 20, 2023 08:15 AM (Zz0t1)

71 "Brings a tear to my how they have suddenly found religion. "

Taking a knee in prayer on the field at an NFL game was suddenly totes OK too!

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 20, 2023 08:16 AM (uLr+K)

72 @60

>> There's no such thing as a 'surprise visit' by a head of state, especially in a 'war zone'.

The number of dignitaries and celebrities that have been run in and out of that country is staggering.

It's like Ukraine has become The Vegas of Europe, lots of Whales, lots of chips being thrown on the tables, just need the cigarette and showgirls to make the experience complete.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 20, 2023 08:16 AM (up/3i)

73 Catholic Auxillary Bishop shot dead in LA. (And this isn't even front page stuff anywhere)...

https://wtop.com/national/2023/02/ report-california-bishop-found-dead-of-gunshot-wound/
Posted by: Nova Local at February 20, 2023 08:14 AM (exHjb)

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I am so jaded and disenfranchised that I immediately went to some Ghey stuff that went wrong.

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at February 20, 2023 08:17 AM (flINI)

74 "At dentist, can't spell."

Pulled your wisdom teeth, did they?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 20, 2023 08:14 AM (uLr+K)

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It could be that they pulled his eye teeth

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at February 20, 2023 08:17 AM (flINI)

75 ... how could those tasked with mitigating the problem and cleaning up the spill intentionally turn a serious but perhaps containable/controllable accident into a massive ... disaster ...
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I am holding off on conclusions on this front for now because it may well have been a no-win situation where you make the best choice you can in the circumstances and try to pick the least-bad option. Was venting and flaring the gas the least-bad option? I don't know, but it might have been.

Some tanks were leaking and there was a fire. Contents under pressure run the risk of explosion if not dealt with. With the fire and other damage, was righting those cars and trying to keep their contents contained even possible? Were the consequences of an explosion a greater risk than deliberately flaring it? I don't know. Flaring it is bad. Having the cars explode would have been bad. Continued incursion into the ground and water would have been bad.

The real problem IMO is the abdication of responsibility. The railroad, the state agencies, etc. - they all ran away for hours rather than take charge. Did that cause a no-win scenario? I don't know.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 20, 2023 08:17 AM (t0OGg)

76 99 Chink Spy Balloons....

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 20, 2023 08:18 AM (Zz0t1)

77
Truck Monkey,

Yep, I thought the same thing.

Posted by: four seasons at February 20, 2023 08:18 AM (ichPI)

78 Kiev is becoming the political version of Love Boat.

Everybody wants to be seen there.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 20, 2023 08:18 AM (uLr+K)

79 77
Truck Monkey,

Yep, I thought the same thing.
Posted by: four seasons at February 20, 2023 08:18 AM (ichPI)

It's one of the rarest things in the US. Bishops get shot in foreign lands, but no one has ever murdered a bishop here, at least not in my known lifetime. You'd think this would be blown up in the news, but the anti-Catholic hate from the FBI was just last week/month...

Posted by: Nova Local at February 20, 2023 08:20 AM (exHjb)

80 Mayor Butt decided that since he takes it in the ass, the train derailment in Ohio was a perfect opportunity for the people to take it in the ass with him.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 20, 2023 08:20 AM (Zz0t1)

81 Posted by: BifBewalski at February 20, 2023 08:15 AM (3CCua)

It was reported last week that the Chy-Na spy balloon was tracked from the launch site in China in real time. My bet would be that a real investigation would reveal that US companies are providing technology, software and support for the equipment aboard.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at February 20, 2023 08:20 AM (+2RzF)

82 Kiev is becoming the political version of Love Boat.

Everybody wants to be seen there.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 20, 2023 08:18 AM (uLr+K)

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Is Charo still ambulatory?

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at February 20, 2023 08:20 AM (flINI)

83
Oh great. Some member of the ruling class is about to die. How long will the ritual worship of the fallen turd last this time? I expect his beatification to last for *weeks.*

Ugh.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 20, 2023 08:20 AM (oINRc)

84
“Abortion-rights activists were already launching attacks on pregnancy resource centers online.”

How many pregnant women had abortions when they didn't want to for not knowing any alternative? But the aborticomaniacs don't want alternatives. How many alternatives have pro-life groups established? But the aborticomaniacs always attack them because they don't want alternatives.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 20, 2023 08:20 AM (MoZTd)

85 Biden is in Kyiv, to meet with Zelensky and bring him a big check.

--

Zelensky is going to be one of the richest men in the world soon, thanks to the US taxpayer it seems. I'm glad we're supporting he and his free-spending wife. And paying for the pensions of Ukrainians! Aren't we nice?

Posted by: Lady in Black at February 20, 2023 08:21 AM (sVtYq)

86 51 - Read a article at Frontpage Mag and had to get it

Posted by: Skip at February 20, 2023 08:21 AM (yCVmv)

87 When Carter dies, it will be an enormous production (Will Ariana Grande sing at his funeral?) and all the former living presidents will be seated front row to pay homage. All except one. Who won't even be invited.

Posted by: Lady in Black at February 20, 2023 08:22 AM (sVtYq)

88 At dentist, can't spell.
Posted by: Eromero at February 20, 2023 08:13 AM (Z1jJH)



That's depressing.

Posted by: John Fetterman at February 20, 2023 08:22 AM (Zz0t1)

89 "North Dakota Republicans Are One Step Closer To Banning Ranked-Choice Voting In State Elections"

Looking at you ALASKA.

Posted by: redridinghood at February 20, 2023 08:23 AM (NpAcC)

90 Police sources: 18-inch pipe bomb found behind Holmesburg church, near railroad tracks
By FOX 29 staff Published February 19, 2023 4:47PMPhiladelphia
HOLMESBURG - Philadelphia police are investigating after a pipe bomb was reportedly discovered behind a church in Holmesburg.

Philadelphia police sources tell FOX 29 an 18-inch pipe bomb was found Sunday, just after 1:30 p.m., behind St. Dominic’s Catholic Church, on the 8500 block of Frankford Avenue, in Philadelphia's Holmesburg section.

Officials say a passerby found the pipe bomb, and noted it was a PVC pipe with capped ends and black powder on it.

Police shut down Frankford Ave., between Benson and Blakiston while the Philadelphia Police Bomb Squad was called to the scene.

The bomb squad safely took the pipe bomb out of harm’s way.

No further details were released in the incident.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at February 20, 2023 08:23 AM (Vwz3I)

91
I am holding off on conclusions on this front for now because it may well have been a no-win situation where you make the best choice you can in the circumstances and try to pick the least-bad option.

I've been on hazmat response teams and I think this is accurate.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 20, 2023 08:23 AM (MoZTd)

92 While it’s true that Biden and other officials are certainly compromised by the Chinese, what if the balloon had nothing to do with China? What if the ‘Chinese Spy Balloon’ was actually a U.S. Spy Balloon? What if the administration’s insistence that it was Chinese was actually a convenient narrative to hide an even more alarming secret?
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Requires too many assumptions, and the explanation of a fairly significant piece of contrary evidence. If this was our balloon (which we have, and have for years, and are used to conduct likely illegal surveillance of the domestic population), why would the Red Chinese take credit for it? They denied it at first but then admitted it, publicly, to their own people and to the world. They have demanded the return of the wreckage of the "Chinese Airship" that we shot down.

Would they have reason to lie about this, to shore up an excuse used by our rulers to not have to discuss domestic use of this kind of equipment? What reason could that be? Why help the US government out of this jam? Why make themselves the bad guy when they don't need to be and choose to score no points?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 20, 2023 08:23 AM (t0OGg)

93 I saw there is another big balloon by Hawaii now at 50,000 feet.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at February 20, 2023 08:23 AM (WUIOX)

94 More than 46,000 dead in Turkish-Syrian quake; Turks now cutting back on rescue operations.
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at February 20, 2023 08:15 AM (Vwz3I)

Is there any buildings designed for earthquakes in those countries?

Posted by: dantesed at February 20, 2023 08:23 AM (88xKn)

95 "That's depressing."

Shut up and get back in your room.

And take the lump with you.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 20, 2023 08:24 AM (uLr+K)

96 "All except one. Who won't even be invited.
Posted by: Lady in Black"

I wouldn't go if invited. Good riddance.

Posted by: fd at February 20, 2023 08:24 AM (iayUP)

97 I am pitching to NBC this week to do a "Battle of the Network Stars" in KYIV!... (Keeeeeeeev). I think it's a great idea

Posted by: Lynda Carter in a Tubetop at February 20, 2023 08:24 AM (flINI)

98 I don't see why Nicola Sturgeon is in trouble for her trans policy. Scotsmen have been wearing skirts for centuries.

Posted by: Eeyore at February 20, 2023 08:25 AM (TgBWG)

99 I wouldn't go if invited. Good riddance.

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I know, but it will just be the disrespect that will otherize Trump once again.

Posted by: Lady in Black at February 20, 2023 08:25 AM (sVtYq)

100 "The bomb squad safely took the pipe bomb out of harm’s way. "

So they didn't want it to get hurt?


/S

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 20, 2023 08:25 AM (uLr+K)

101 I am pitching to NBC this week to do a "Battle of the Network Stars" in KYIV!... (Keeeeeeeev). I think it's a great idea
Posted by: Lynda Carter in a Tubetop at February 20, 2023 08:24 AM (flINI)
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Disagree. There is no active fighting in Kiev. Make the "Battle of the Network Stars" a *real* battle. Send half of them to the Russian army and the other half to the Ukrainian army, for assignment to the front lines in the same theater.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 20, 2023 08:26 AM (t0OGg)

102
If I got invited to a politician's funeral, I'd send a captured wolverine with my invitation pinned to his collar in my place. After injecting him with rabies, of course.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 20, 2023 08:26 AM (oINRc)

103 "The bomb squad safely took the pipe bomb out of harm’s way. "

So they didn't want it to get hurt?


/S
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 20, 2023 08:25 AM (uLr+K)



Editors aren't what they used to be.

Posted by: John Fetterman at February 20, 2023 08:26 AM (Zz0t1)

104 I just watched "Super 8" last night.

I wonder if it was filmed near East Palestine.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at February 20, 2023 08:26 AM (TXFi7)

105 It's Monday and I haven't had my coffee yet.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 20, 2023 08:27 AM (Zz0t1)

106 I shot the bishop
but I did not shoot the altar boy.
- New From K Street Records!

Posted by: Eromero at February 20, 2023 08:27 AM (Z1jJH)

107 Could Biden have wound up in Kiev by accident?

Got lost, and wandering around Europe, looking for a bathroom.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 20, 2023 08:27 AM (uLr+K)

108 If I got invited to a politician's funeral, I'd send a captured wolverine with my invitation pinned to his collar in my place. After injecting him with rabies, of course.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 20, 2023 08:26 AM (oINRc)
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And the long, rich history of the white man using infected animals as a form of germ warfare to perpetuate his illegitimate position of power continues apace. We learn nothing from history.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 20, 2023 08:27 AM (t0OGg)

109 Could Biden have wound up in Kiev by accident?

Got lost, and wandering around Europe, looking for a bathroom.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 20, 2023 08:27 AM (uLr+K)
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I doubt it. There are borders. Now, wandering off on a trip to Germany and ending up in Poland, though? That I could believe. There are no natural boundaries.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 20, 2023 08:28 AM (t0OGg)

110 Could Biden have wound up in Kiev by accident?

Got lost, and wandering around Europe, looking for a bathroom.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 20, 2023 08:27 AM (uLr+K)



Weekend at Keeev.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 20, 2023 08:28 AM (Zz0t1)

111
Who knows what happened? But I can guarantee two things:

1.) Whatever our government did was wrong and bad

2.) Now they're lying about it

This holds in all situations, without exception.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 20, 2023 08:30 AM (oINRc)

112 I doubt it. There are borders. Now, wandering off on a trip to Germany and ending up in Poland, though? That I could believe. There are no natural boundaries.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 20, 2023 08:28 AM (t0OGg)

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That is what happened to us! Swearsies

Posted by: The Wehrmacht at February 20, 2023 08:30 AM (flINI)

113 Kiev is becoming the political version of Love Boat.
Everybody wants to be seen there.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 20, 2023 08:18 AM (uLr+K)

I noes dats right!

Posted by: Issac Washington at February 20, 2023 08:31 AM (z1bdm)

114 So Biden was at Walter Reed for a 'physical', and just days later we find him in Kiev.

I wonder what they pumped him full of while at Walter Reed.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 20, 2023 08:31 AM (uLr+K)

115 Eco terrorism This is just a test

Posted by: Linda Sina at February 20, 2023 08:31 AM (Grew6)

116 That is what happened to us! Swearsies
Posted by: The Wehrmacht at February 20, 2023 08:30 AM (flINI)
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Poland has experienced a tremendous amount of history due to the fact that it has no natural defensible borders, which makes it very easy to conquer. Many times the other nations didn't even mean to invade Poland; one night they'd simply forget to set the parking brakes on their tanks, and they'd wake up the next morning to discover that, whoosh, they had conquered Poland.
-- Dave Barry

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 20, 2023 08:31 AM (t0OGg)

117 Seems like a lifetime ago the biggest story in the world was Trump having formerly classified documents at his home that he was legally entitled to have. Now, nothing.

I wonder what could have happened to make that story disappear?

Posted by: JackStraw at February 20, 2023 08:32 AM (ZLI7S)

118 Kiev is becoming the political version of Love Boat.
Everybody wants to be seen there.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 20, 2023 08:18 AM (uLr+K)
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Ukraine is the political version of Love Canal: a toxic dump that is constantly lied about and evaded until, eventually, it will be remedied at tremendous taxpayer expense.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 20, 2023 08:32 AM (t0OGg)

119 Would they have reason to lie about this, to shore up an excuse used by our rulers to not have to discuss domestic use of this kind of equipment? What reason could that be? Why help the US government out of this jam? Why make themselves the bad guy when they don't need to be and choose to score no points?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 20, 2023 08:23 AM (t0OGg)
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Maybe it's an excuse for the U.S. to hand over its own spy technology to the Chinese under the fiction that it was really theirs all along.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at February 20, 2023 08:32 AM (YIVH2)

120 " A Founder For Us All"

NY Post salutes George Washington:

https://tinyurl.com/3s92fe63

The post does say that unlike some other Presidents such as Lincoln and JFK, Washington had no memorial lines worth quoting. Well, I don't know about that. I quoted Washington on the back of Sunday's worship bulletin.- a quote about the importance of worship of God. I also quoted it today at about 6:00 in the tech thread.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 20, 2023 08:34 AM (Mf806)

121 Maybe there will be a John Wick, Chapter 5.

In Ukraine.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 20, 2023 08:35 AM (uLr+K)

122 The post does say that unlike some other Presidents such as Lincoln and JFK, Washington had no memorial lines worth quoting. Well, I don't know about that. I quoted Washington on the back of Sunday's worship bulletin.- a quote about the importance of worship of God. I also quoted it today at about 6:00 in the tech thread.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 20, 2023 08:34 AM (Mf806)




He saved the children, but not the British children.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 20, 2023 08:35 AM (Zz0t1)

123 Maybe it's an excuse for the U.S. to hand over its own spy technology to the Chinese under the fiction that it was really theirs all along.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at February 20, 2023 08:32 AM (YIVH2)
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I can think of several possibilities. A clandestine technology transfer, an agreement to take the fall in exchange for backing off on certain sanctions, a willingness to claim credit in order to play a longer game in other parts of the world (as a proxy show of force/sophistication), etc.

But any of these possibilities require a *lot* of assumptions, speculation, and faith-based arguments regarding Red Chinese motivations. The "this was a Chinese spy device" point is much simpler and requires far fewer assumptions, so it is my preferred answer unless other information comes to the fore. I hate the domestic tyranny as much as the next guy, but this whole line of questioning is a bit too wheels-within-wheels for me.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 20, 2023 08:35 AM (t0OGg)

124 Retardo is guaranteed to make a few blunders in Poland. Polack jokes, telling tales of playing polkas as back up accordian with the Jimmy Sturr band, chowing down on pierogis, prune stuffed and cabbage stuffed resulting in "emergencies".

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at February 20, 2023 08:36 AM (lz5hY)

125 Didn't Washington have that quote about We'll kill you in your sleep on Christmas or somesuch? I think he did

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at February 20, 2023 08:36 AM (flINI)

126 Balloons = long duration/persistent surveillance. There's been discussions about these being used to track people, vehicles... even livestock here in the US. Put them up above the normal airliner tracks and fit them with various instruments to view, listen and record events on the ground.

Could the story about the huge "spy balloon" be fiction made up to deflect from a domestic spying program that's likely illegal? Odds are not zero.

I have no doubt FedGov is using these devices to monitor individuals/groups it feels need monitoring. Domestically and internationally. What becomes debatable is whether other countries are doing the same thing, at home and/or abroad. It also raises the question about why satellites are not suitable or can't capture whatever intelligence a balloon can. Persistence might be the answer.

If the surveillance balloon shot down off the Carolina coast is actually Chinese and it's made known we'll have our answer on that, but it will raise many more questions.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 20, 2023 08:36 AM (Q4IgG)

127
I wonder what they pumped him full of while at Walter Reed.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 20, 2023 08:31 AM (uLr+K)

I figure steroids, adderall and b-complex, like every day.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 20, 2023 08:37 AM (oINRc)

128 Washington was a man of action. He actually lit the fuse that started the Seven Year's War -- the first world war.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 20, 2023 08:38 AM (SJsWC)

129 Chatterbox Mouse, Super 8 was filmed in Weirton WV, about 35 miles south. Daughter was an extra for a couple of days and a paycheck for a middle schooler.

Posted by: RedDish at February 20, 2023 08:38 AM (oaNmT)

130 ||German antiwar film "All Quiet on the Western Front" wins seven prizes at last night's BAFTA Awards.|| [On Netflix.]

I watched it at my brother's last week. Has next to nothing to do with the novel, including stuff about showing the Armistice negotiations going on in a railway car while the fighting continues. [Including the cliché of the generals eating gourmet meals while the German troops eat crap. A well-stocked French trench-bunker is showed later however.]

The battle scenes and action aren't bad, and the acting is fine, but the variety of criticisms [and not just button-counting by us history nuts!] at IMDB shows its flaws.

The original movie and the TV movie with John Boy and Ernest Borgnine were much better.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at February 20, 2023 08:39 AM (Vwz3I)

131 Chatterbox Mouse, Super 8 was filmed in Weirton WV, about 35 miles south. Daughter was an extra for a couple of days and a paycheck for a middle schooler.
Posted by: RedDish at February 20, 2023 08:38 AM (oaNmT)
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Why did they give some middle schooler her paycheck?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 20, 2023 08:39 AM (t0OGg)

132
Maybe there will be a John Wick, Chapter 5.

In Ukraine.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 20, 2023 08:35 AM (uLr+K)


May the Lord spare us from any more movie franchises. It's one thing to have a multi-film epic based on a predetermined story arc. It's another entirely to sit around and ask yourself, "Well, what are we going to do with these characters next?" That way be dragons.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 20, 2023 08:39 AM (MoZTd)

133 Kiev is becoming the political version of Love Boat.
Everybody wants to be seen there.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 20, 2023 08:18 AM (uLr+K)

I noes dats right!
Posted by: Issac Washington

We should Gopher it.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at February 20, 2023 08:40 AM (ZqJGw)

134 127 Wait until they give Lumpy the wrong cocktail. 6'8" carrot rampaging through the halls of Walter Reed like James Arness in "The Thing".

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at February 20, 2023 08:40 AM (lz5hY)

135 @Breaking911 · 13h
Alligator Found In Brooklyn Lake

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at February 20, 2023 08:40 AM (Vwz3I)

136 I wish I were still asleep......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 20, 2023 08:40 AM (Zz0t1)

137 May the Lord spare us from any more movie franchises. It's one thing to have a multi-film epic based on a predetermined story arc. It's another entirely to sit around and ask yourself, "Well, what are we going to do with these characters next?" That way be dragons.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 20, 2023 08:39 AM (MoZTd)
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Very profitable dragons.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 20, 2023 08:40 AM (t0OGg)

138 "Today is also National Cherry Pie Day!
Posted by: redridinghood"

Now that's more like it!

*digs out Warrant CD.*
Posted by: fd at February 20, 2023 08:00 AM (iayUP)

I mean, it was a decent song and video, but i'm not sure it deserves it's own day...

Posted by: SturmToddler at February 20, 2023 08:41 AM (Mkvkw)

139 Correction Just In: "... and that government of the states, by the states, for the states, shall not perish from the earth."

- A. Lincoln

P.S. Sorry, Civics was not my best subject.

Posted by: Marooned at February 20, 2023 08:41 AM (kt8QE)

140
As many of you know, the Compiegne Wagon got used again to sign another surrender. But, at the end of WWII, one of the last acts of the SS was likely to destroy it so it couldn't be used a third time (though some Germans claimed it was blown up the Allies).

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 20, 2023 08:42 AM (oINRc)

141 Good morning!

Let's smile & be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at February 20, 2023 08:42 AM (u82oZ)

142 The post does say that unlike some other Presidents such as Lincoln and JFK, Washington had no memorial lines worth quoting. Well, I don't know about that. I quoted Washington on the back of Sunday's worship bulletin.- a quote about the importance of worship of God. I also quoted it today at about 6:00 in the tech thread.
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Fen - I seem to remember a 'Farewell Address' that was widely published and memorized by schoolchildren in the old days.

Posted by: mustbequantum at February 20, 2023 08:42 AM (MIKMs)

143 Joe Mannix, typing and grammar is not (are not?) my friend early on a Monday.

Posted by: RedDish at February 20, 2023 08:42 AM (oaNmT)

144 76 99 Chink Spy Balloons....
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 20, 2023 08:18 AM (Zz0t1)

A gap in their armor?!

So they are zeppelins?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 20, 2023 08:43 AM (zZu0s)

145 92 Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 20, 2023 08:23 AM (t0OGg)


Even if this/these are Chi-Com balloons, does it mean DARPA doesn't have any of its own doing what the article postulates?

The Chi-Coms might have accidentally (or accidentally on purpose) exposed what our own junta is doing.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 20, 2023 08:43 AM (x0n13)

146 HOLMESBURG - Philadelphia police are investigating after a pipe bomb was reportedly discovered behind a church in Holmesburg.

MOVE on the move... May it end with a surprise bang like before...

Posted by: Hitlery Cliton at February 20, 2023 08:43 AM (8ZLyY)

147 Washington was a man of action. He actually lit the fuse that started the Seven Year's War -- the first world war.
------------
The real shot heard 'round the world.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at February 20, 2023 08:43 AM (Vwz3I)

148
Washington had no memorial lines worth quoting.

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That is maximally ignorant.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 20, 2023 08:43 AM (oINRc)

149 Cherry Pie is good. I prefer cobbler though.

I'd have to say a good spiced apple pie or a good key lime pie is my favorite.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 20, 2023 08:44 AM (zZu0s)

150 76 99 Chink Spy Balloons....
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 20, 2023 08:18 AM (Zz0t1)

A gap in their armor?!

So they are zeppelins?
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 20, 2023 08:43 AM (zZu0s)

A Whole Rotta Rove.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at February 20, 2023 08:44 AM (XGZoL)

151 Will it be a bigger deal then the recently ended McCain ceremonies?

I believe that is not only still on going, but attendance is mandatory, comrade.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at February 20, 2023 08:44 AM (CecP5)

152 Salty!

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 20, 2023 08:44 AM (uLr+K)

153 George Washington invented the dolla bill, Yo

-- Baltimore Highschool Graduate

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at February 20, 2023 08:44 AM (WUIOX)

154 Here's a salient one:

"If the freedom of speech is taken away then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 20, 2023 08:45 AM (oINRc)

155 A Whole Rotta Rove.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at February 20, 2023 08:44 AM (XGZoL)

Now I have a Chinese cover band doing Led Zepplin in my head.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 20, 2023 08:45 AM (zZu0s)

156 Uh, No
Canadian teacher with size Z breasts Kayla Lemieux claims they ‘are real’

https://tinyurl.com/4setdf7d

Posted by: redridinghood at February 20, 2023 08:46 AM (NpAcC)

157 the supposed Chinese Spy Balloon was seen hovering over Billings, Montana,

**********

I'm curious how a balloon "hovers". Odd choice of words. Balloons drift along with air currents.

Hover (v.) -
to stay up in the air but without moving anywhere
-or-
to stay in one place in the air,

Posted by: Muldoon at February 20, 2023 08:46 AM (ykeLU)

158 Happy Monday and happy President's Day!
Still have to work today . . .

Posted by: Lizzy at February 20, 2023 08:46 AM (mqu1M)

159 The actor who played Washington in the tv series Turn was quite good. Nailed the gravitas but added a sense of humor.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 20, 2023 08:46 AM (SJsWC)

160 "Now I have a Chinese cover band doing Led Zepplin in my head."

Must be crowded in there.

But fun..

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 20, 2023 08:47 AM (uLr+K)

161 Village Idiot's Apprentice

Top o ta mornin to ya, gov'nor.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at February 20, 2023 08:47 AM (u82oZ)

162 156 Uh, No
Canadian teacher with size Z breasts Kayla Lemieux claims they ‘are real’

https://tinyurl.com/4setdf7d
Posted by: redridinghood at February 20, 2023 08:46 AM (NpAcC)

Must be cold out.

Note: I would not check the link out, fellow rons. It is early and I was bored.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 20, 2023 08:47 AM (zZu0s)

163 135 @Breaking911 · 13h
Alligator Found In Brooklyn Lake
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at February 20, 2023 08:40 AM (Vwz3I)


As long as it wasn't found in Veronica Lake . . .

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 20, 2023 08:48 AM (x0n13)

164 crackpot siting (read it carefully):


@robreiner
The best to commemorate this Present's Day would be to Indict the former President.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at February 20, 2023 08:48 AM (kFrCu)

165 >>Canadian teacher with size Z breasts Kayla Lemieux claims they ‘are real’


Huh, just saw photos of that dude on twitter - outside of class he dresses as a dude. The wig, heels, miniskirts and breasts are his "work" attire.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 20, 2023 08:48 AM (mqu1M)

166 "I'm curious how a balloon "hovers". Odd choice of words. Balloons drift along with air currents. "

The term 'Airship' sometimes appeared in the official government briefs as well.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 20, 2023 08:48 AM (uLr+K)

167 The fighting in the Ukraine around Bahkmut strikes me as being a version of Verdun. Both sides bleeding each other without a large amount of movement. This however is bad for Ukraine because they are overall outnumbered by the Russians. If Russia opens a large scale second front, Ukraine will be in a world of hurt

Posted by: Smell the Glove at February 20, 2023 08:48 AM (1YqTf)

168 @Breaking911 · 9h
HORROR: Police Arrest Suspect In NYC Deli Shooting Caught On Camera
---------------
The usual-suspect who shot the clerk in the head, using a pistol then returning with an AR-15 or similar but nonfatally if you saw that video on the weekend.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at February 20, 2023 08:48 AM (Vwz3I)

169 160 But fun..
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 20, 2023 08:47 AM (uLr+K)


"I'm in favor!"

- - Mayor Peter Puffer

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 20, 2023 08:48 AM (x0n13)

170

Ernest Borgnine was better.

Posted by: Jane Sixpack at February 20, 2023 08:49 AM (8ZLyY)

171 Washington had no memorial lines worth quoting.
------------
Wooden teeth kept on popping out, pre-Fixodent.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at February 20, 2023 08:49 AM (Vwz3I)

172
HORROR: Police Arrest Suspect In NYC Deli Shooting Caught On Camera

------

Next up: DA Declines to Prosecute Suspect In NYC Deli Shooting Caught On Camera

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 20, 2023 08:49 AM (oINRc)

173 LOL!

Don LeMon before he went woke.....

https://is.gd/7CG43c

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 20, 2023 08:49 AM (Zz0t1)

174 My hover balloon is full of eels.

Posted by: a Hungarian at a tobacconist's at February 20, 2023 08:50 AM (Vwz3I)

175 As long as it wasn't found in Veronica Lake . . .
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 20, 2023 08:48 AM (x0n13)

Not much left of her at this point. He'd be more on her bones than inside her, per se.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 20, 2023 08:51 AM (zZu0s)

176 >>Let's smile & be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.


Will do, Salty!

Posted by: Lizzy at February 20, 2023 08:51 AM (mqu1M)

177 > I'm curious how a balloon "hovers". Odd choice of words. Balloons drift along with air currents.
____________
The purported Chinese surveillance balloon was noted to have "propellers" mounted on the large array slung under the balloon itself. Solar powered, so electric motors.

It could, to one degree or another, steer itself.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 20, 2023 08:51 AM (Q4IgG)

178 Town wrecker Pete Boots-in-sludge, should be impeached.
E. Palestine will go the way of Centralia Pa.

Posted by: Redenzo at February 20, 2023 08:51 AM (E7vND)

179 The bottlecap balloon brigade constructed a $12 weather balloon that cruises at an altitude of 50,000'.

It took two of Joe Biden's sidewinders to take one of these evasive bad boys down. I hope he's selling these shit missiles to his son, Zelenskyy in Ukraine for top gun dollar.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at February 20, 2023 08:52 AM (Jg7EG)

180 Uh, No
Canadian teacher with size Z breasts Kayla Lemieux claims they ‘are real’

https://tinyurl.com/4setdf7d
Posted by: redridinghood at February 20, 2023 08:46 AM (NpAcC)

***

we used to institutionalize these people... Now we cater to their mentail illness

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at February 20, 2023 08:52 AM (flINI)

181 and something cute from one of those people (sander from netherlands) ace links to at night:

https://tinyurl.com/4d3v2d33

Posted by: gnats local 678 at February 20, 2023 08:52 AM (kFrCu)

182 "It could, to one degree or another, steer itself."

Hence the more appropriate 'Airship' reference.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 20, 2023 08:52 AM (uLr+K)

183 Rob Reiner is a cautionary tale of loosing your reason and humanity to be a meat puppet.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at February 20, 2023 08:52 AM (u82oZ)

184 Is someone who knows a lot of languages a polygrammist?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 20, 2023 08:53 AM (hTf8I)

185 Reminder: Veronica Lake

https://tinyurl.com/2wryf57h

Bones: without the hair thing covering half her face. Maybe not the most classically beautiful, but the old silver screen ladies always had a mastery of seductive eyes.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 20, 2023 08:53 AM (zZu0s)

186 Ernest Borgnine was better.
------------
His Katz was very good.

I still recall scenes with him, including telling the new recruits that he's the old hand who will tell them how to survive.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at February 20, 2023 08:53 AM (Vwz3I)

187 The alligator in Prospect Park Lake had to have been put there in the last couple of days otherwise it would have frozen to death already.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at February 20, 2023 08:54 AM (1YqTf)

188 Aetius451AD Work Laptop

No tats, gaged ears, piercings. Advantage: Veronica Lake.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at February 20, 2023 08:54 AM (u82oZ)

189 Is Sanders of the Netherlands like Scott of the Sahara Antarctic??

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at February 20, 2023 08:55 AM (Vwz3I)

190 But any of these possibilities require a *lot* of assumptions, speculation, and faith-based arguments regarding Red Chinese motivations. The "this was a Chinese spy device" point is much simpler and requires far fewer assumptions, so it is my preferred answer unless other information comes to the fore. I hate the domestic tyranny as much as the next guy, but this whole line of questioning is a bit too wheels-within-wheels for me.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 20, 2023 08:35 AM (t0OGg)
---
It's hard to go wrong with Occam's Razor most of the time...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at February 20, 2023 08:55 AM (YIVH2)

191
No tats, gaged ears, piercings. Advantage: Veronica Lake.
Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at February 20, 2023 08:54 AM (u82oZ)



This.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 20, 2023 08:55 AM (Zz0t1)

192 Mommy Dr. Jill isn't the only PHD in the family. I, too, have a PHD-Pretty Hot Daughter.

Posted by: Your President on Presidents Day at February 20, 2023 08:56 AM (wrJpE)

193 Must be cold out.

Note: I would not check the link out, fellow rons. It is early and I was bored.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 20, 2023 08:47 AM (zZu0s)
******
Greg Gutfeld has been doing hilarious segments on his show about the male shop teacher with the phony massive prosthetic breasts.
Gazoombagate

https://tinyurl.com/24vavj5u

Posted by: redridinghood at February 20, 2023 08:56 AM (NpAcC)

194 Is someone who knows a lot of languages a polygrammist?
-----------
Serious answer -- a polyglot.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at February 20, 2023 08:56 AM (Vwz3I)

195 All jizz and no snizz makes Mayor Butt batshit crazy.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 20, 2023 08:56 AM (Zz0t1)

196 >>Christian Toto: "Second awards show skewers Top Gun: Maverick superstar – will Oscars be next?"


Saw a clip on Nerdrodic FNT from a recent Hollywood event (award show or after party?) where Spielberg is shaking Tom Cruise's hand, thanking him and telling him he saved the entertainment industry. And he did.

Of course the ungrateful activists in Hollywood want to punish him for proving, once again and in the biggest possible way, that showcasing traditional, American values/avoiding wokeism SELLS bigtime.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 20, 2023 08:56 AM (mqu1M)

197 "It's hard to go wrong with Occam's Razor most of the time..."

I prefer Harry's, despite their woke position on stuff.

And the foaming shave cream is really good.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 20, 2023 08:57 AM (uLr+K)

198 I finally got to see both the official Clinton and Obama displays.

Yeh......no.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 20, 2023 08:09 AM (uLr+K)

With Clinton in the blue dress?

Posted by: rhennigantx at February 20, 2023 08:57 AM (BRHaw)

199 Morning, JJ, morning horde.

Posted by: Inogame, Si vi pacium para bellum at February 20, 2023 08:57 AM (53oGX)

200 194 andycanuck, it was a pun, not a serious question.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 20, 2023 08:58 AM (hTf8I)

201 Biden lands in Kyiv for surprise visit on first anniversary of Russia's invasion: President tells Putin his war is 'failing' and gives Zelensky $500 million more in new weapons - as air raid sirens blare around Ukraine's capital


Daily Mail has touching photo of Biden hugging Zelensky

Posted by: DB - Spanning the globe at February 20, 2023 08:59 AM (geLO8)

202 Disney workers are protesting the requirement to work from the office at least four days per week.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 20, 2023 08:59 AM (uLr+K)

203 Here's the clip: https://tinyurl.com/4ncp3zz7

In other Hollywood news, there's probably going to be a Writers Guild strike. LOLGF, most of you would be overpaid if you worked for free.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 20, 2023 09:00 AM (mqu1M)

204 All hail Ace!!! He called it - Don LeMon has been removed from the morning show he was on.

We can probably expect a bit of a victory thread later today, complete with a missing tag at the end.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 20, 2023 09:00 AM (a3Q+t)

205 > The bottlecap balloon brigade constructed a $12 weather balloon that cruises at an altitude of 50,000'.
___________
It was on it's 7th? circumnavigation of the globe too.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 20, 2023 09:00 AM (Q4IgG)

206 We can probably expect a bit of a victory thread later today, complete with a missing tag at the end.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 20, 2023 09:00 AM (a3Q+t)
---
Should we start taking bets on which tag will be missing?

Bold, Italics, or Centered?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at February 20, 2023 09:01 AM (YIVH2)

207 >>Biden lands in Kyiv for surprise visit on first anniversary of Russia's invasion:



But hasn't said a peep about New Palestine, let alone visited, right?

Priorities! He thinks he's the prezzy of Ukraine.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 20, 2023 09:01 AM (mqu1M)

208 197 "It's hard to go wrong with Occam's Razor most of the time..."

I prefer Harry's, despite their woke position on stuff.

And the foaming shave cream is really good.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 20, 2023 08:57 AM (uLr+K)

I have been really impressed with using a shave butter with a standard safety razor. Pretty good shave and you cannot beat the price difference.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 20, 2023 09:01 AM (zZu0s)

209
We can probably expect a bit of a victory thread later today, complete with a missing tag at the end.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 20, 2023 09:00 AM (a3Q+t)



*Lamont The Big Dummy is waiting patiently in the Green Room*

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 20, 2023 09:01 AM (Zz0t1)

210 Kiev.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 20, 2023 09:01 AM (zZu0s)

211 "It was on it's 7th? circumnavigation of the globe too."

At a cost of $12.00, this clearly was not a government project.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 20, 2023 09:01 AM (uLr+K)

212 ---
Should we start taking bets on which tag will be missing?

Bold, Italics, or Centered?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at February 20, 2023 09:01 AM (YIVH2)



We're grays, man. We're greys.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 20, 2023 09:02 AM (Zz0t1)

213 Biden in Ukraine.

He is safe from all enemies of the US. He is a gift to them.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at February 20, 2023 09:02 AM (u82oZ)

214 Joey Shitpants Spongebrain is in UKRAINE now. In KEEEV. The Junta kept this secret.

Posted by: Gref at February 20, 2023 09:03 AM (AMIL/)

215 "But I digress."

Please digress. We love it when you digress.
They're just so ... ranty. 😁

Posted by: Flyover at February 20, 2023 09:03 AM (Rbu5d)

216 @TheInsiderPaper · 1h
NEW - Iran on Monday denied reports that it has enriched uranium up to 84 percent, just below the 90 percent needed to produce an atomic bomb, state media reported.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at February 20, 2023 09:04 AM (Vwz3I)

217 "It was on it's 7th? circumnavigation of the globe too."

At a cost of $12.00, this clearly was not a government project.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 20, 2023 09:01 AM (uLr+K)



I'm harkening back to elementary school when we released balloons with postcards attached requesting whomever finds it writes back where it landed.

As all the children release their balloons with excitement, an F15 flies over guns a blazing taking out the balloons and terrifying the children below.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 20, 2023 09:04 AM (Zz0t1)

218 Kiev is becoming the political version of Love Boat.


The Ghost of Kiev was Lyle Waggoner?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 20, 2023 09:04 AM (hTf8I)

219 we used to institutionalize these people... Now we cater to their mentail illness
Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at February 20, 2023 08:52 AM (flINI)

Societies tend to self-limit mass psychosis and sociopathy at somewhere around 3 to 4% of the population. These people are jailed, hospitalized, or just ostracized and ignored as the town idiot or local crank.

I think there is a major pushback coming. No one cares about your pronouns. No one cares about who you bang. No one cares about what race you claim to be. Most people only care about you taking care of yourself and your people.

Posted by: rhennigantx at February 20, 2023 09:04 AM (BRHaw)

220 The billions we’re giving Kiev and all the attention annoy me beyond words while we ignore our own border. Enraging

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at February 20, 2023 09:04 AM (s7suz)

221 I guess Joey has promised another half billion dollars to Ukraine.

Back of the napkin shows that equals 50 million to the big guy.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 20, 2023 09:05 AM (uLr+K)

222 I'm never going to a restaurant and ordering the Chicken KEEEEV.

F*ck anyone that says it that way.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 20, 2023 09:05 AM (Zz0t1)

223 Gref

Thanks for the info on the Falcon Heavy launch. Operationally and esthetically beautiful.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at February 20, 2023 09:05 AM (u82oZ)

224 Turkey earthquake rescuers save small dog trapped in rubble

https://tinyurl.com/mtvetfuu

Posted by: redridinghood at February 20, 2023 09:07 AM (NpAcC)

225 Medicare paid for my hover round.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at February 20, 2023 09:08 AM (TXFi7)

226 rhennigantx

I want to go to the local university as a new student and wreck the DIE indoctrination. On film.

"White supremacy? How is that tied to DNA that determines skin color? What single nucleotide polymorphisms cause it, champ?

So you are saying Blacks are inferior genetically to whites? You are crazy. "

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at February 20, 2023 09:10 AM (u82oZ)

227 223 Gref

Thanks for the info on the Falcon Heavy launch. Operationally and esthetically beautiful.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at February 20, 2023 09:05 AM (u82oZ)


You're welcome!

Posted by: Gref at February 20, 2023 09:10 AM (AMIL/)

228 >>we used to institutionalize these people... Now we cater to their mentail illness

Not just cater, must enthusiastically help in spreading this insanity. If you don't take your kids to drag story hour, drag church service, pride parade, etc. you are causing harm.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 20, 2023 09:10 AM (mqu1M)

229 I spend at least thirty minutes per day watching the closed loop information being shown on every waiting room TV at Walter Reed.

I can attest to the accuracy of the article's position.


You WILL embrace, or be removed from military service.

https://tinyurl.com/2p8s7zaw

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 20, 2023 09:10 AM (uLr+K)

230 Lizzy

A sound negotiating strategy, per Operational Research, is Tit for Tat.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at February 20, 2023 09:11 AM (u82oZ)

231 Mmmmmm......tits.......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 20, 2023 09:12 AM (Zz0t1)

232 >>A sound negotiating strategy, per Operational Research, is Tit for Tat.

But my son knows I will not put up w/him coming home from school with tats OR tats!

Posted by: Lizzy at February 20, 2023 09:13 AM (mqu1M)

233 "Mmmmmm......tits......."

Betcha can't eat just one.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 20, 2023 09:13 AM (uLr+K)

234 "White supremacy? How is that tied to DNA that determines skin color? What single nucleotide polymorphisms cause it, champ?

So you are saying Blacks are inferior genetically to whites? You are crazy. "
Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at February 20, 2023 09:10 AM (u82oZ)

Did you see the lesbian arab hispanic gal that was leaded to SJWhore Organization is a straight white gal according to her mother.

Posted by: rhennigantx at February 20, 2023 09:14 AM (BRHaw)

235 Forcing the vax on the military is perverse reverse loyalty oath, no?

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 20, 2023 09:14 AM (SJsWC)

236 *tits*

Posted by: Lizzy at February 20, 2023 09:14 AM (mqu1M)

237 If only there were photos of these tits....and boobies.

* Puts slow one right into the strike zone*

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 20, 2023 09:14 AM (uLr+K)

238 232 >>A sound negotiating strategy, per Operational Research, is Tit for Tat.

But my son knows I will not put up w/him coming home from school with tits OR tats!
Posted by: Lizzy at February 20, 2023 09:13 AM (mqu1M)

What if the tits are attached to his girlfriend?

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at February 20, 2023 09:15 AM (eYoxG)

239 Silly rabbit! Tits are for kids!

Posted by: an assman at February 20, 2023 09:16 AM (Vwz3I)

240 Village Idiot's Apprentice

A large amount of damage was survived by ships in WWII because of strong unit cohesion in the crew. That led to heroic actions to save lives and the ship.
Many examples, like the USS Franklin and USS Marblehead.

Not so sure we have that today.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at February 20, 2023 09:16 AM (u82oZ)

241 Tits!

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at February 20, 2023 09:16 AM (ZqJGw)

242 >>What if the tits are attached to his girlfriend?

Then it's OK.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 20, 2023 09:17 AM (mqu1M)

243 239 Silly rabbit! Tits are for kids!
Posted by: an assman at February 20, 2023 09:16 AM (Vwz3I)


Fox News reporter?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 20, 2023 09:17 AM (x0n13)

244 "Not so sure we have that today."

I think we still do.

But not because of senior military leadership and policies.

But despite them.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 20, 2023 09:17 AM (uLr+K)

245 Lizzy

Discus banned me from using that well-known saying. Another case of language police covering up what works.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at February 20, 2023 09:17 AM (u82oZ)

246 Happy Washington's Birthday everyone. Without his leadership as a general and 1st President, we might all be speaking English.

(Well, some of us might be speaking French, some Spanish, some Native American).

Posted by: Sargeant Ben Marco at February 20, 2023 09:18 AM (Irdcf)

247 Midtown Rob @midtown_rob · 16h
I don’t like Elon, but I LOVE the story about his meeting with Adam Neumann (paraphrasing):

Adam: getting to mars isn’t the hard part, building a community there is the hard part

Elon: no idiot getting to mars is the hard part

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at February 20, 2023 09:18 AM (Vwz3I)

248 News is saying Biden took a ten hour train ride to Kiev from Poland. Can anyone confirm this?

Posted by: Jen the original at February 20, 2023 09:19 AM (0yVfc)

249 I think we still do.

But not because of senior military leadership and policies.

But despite them.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 20, 2023 09:17 AM (uLr+K)

Yes I agree. We still have that, BUT it is being threatened by CRT and Diversity Bullshit

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 20, 2023 09:19 AM (dO/0d)

250 News is saying Biden took a ten hour train ride to Kiev from Poland. Can anyone confirm this?
Posted by: Jen the original at February 20, 2023 09:19 AM (0yVfc)



CHOOO CHOOO!!!!!!!

Posted by: Joey Fingerstick McShitpants at February 20, 2023 09:19 AM (Zz0t1)

251 "News is saying Biden took a ten hour train ride to Kiev from Poland. Can anyone confirm this?"

I would have preferred 'A Three Hour Tour'.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 20, 2023 09:20 AM (uLr+K)

252 Say what you will about the East Palestine burning train fiasco, it does allow me to recycle my joke about the EPA contaminating a Colorado river with toxic mine waste.

Orange River
Wider than a mile
They crossed us all in style
That day

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Not a Real Simulation at February 20, 2023 09:20 AM (FVME7)

253 Village Idiot's Apprentice

I do think the deck-plates are mostly solid. But the lack of good leadership removes a force multiplier.

I can see a brittle fleet that needs help. But your son has his finger on the pulse. He is at the tip of the spear. He would know.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at February 20, 2023 09:20 AM (u82oZ)

254 "News is saying Biden took a ten hour train ride to Kiev from Poland. Can anyone confirm this?"

I would have preferred 'A Three Hour Tour'.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 20, 2023 09:20 AM (uLr+K)



A black hole, perhaps?

Posted by: Don LeMon at February 20, 2023 09:20 AM (Zz0t1)

255 >>Discus banned me from using that well-known saying. Another case of language police covering up what works.

Yiikes!
And it looks like woke AI is even freakier with the speech policing.

Somewhat related: my son texted me a deepfake video of Biden, with cornrows and a designer jumpsuit, getting all gansta slamming Trump. Hilarious.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 20, 2023 09:21 AM (mqu1M)

256 VIA @ 229-
Navigating VA right now. Rocks and shoals.

Posted by: Eromero at February 20, 2023 09:21 AM (Z1jJH)

257 Benny Johnson
@bennyjohnson

We took all our social media revenue and gave it to the people most affected by the toxic explosion in East Palestine.

These reactions say it all.

We don’t need to wait for the government to help out our fellow Americans in need.

Please watch…

https://tinyurl.com/fmk9yhh8

Posted by: redridinghood at February 20, 2023 09:21 AM (NpAcC)

258 My bet would be that a real investigation would reveal that US companies are providing technology, software and support for the equipment aboard.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at February 20, 2023 08:20 AM (+2RzF)

You mean like Sierra Nevada Corp. Turkish owned. I live near a couple of their facilities but have never been to one.

They just donated a bunch of money to the quake victims. NOT the ones in Syria though for some reason.

Posted by: Reforger at February 20, 2023 09:21 AM (x2pUS)

259 "Yes I agree. We still have that, BUT it is being threatened by CRT and Diversity Bullshit"

A small quibble.

You misspelled 'destroyed'.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 20, 2023 09:21 AM (uLr+K)

260 F451 Firemen burn books so that stupid people do not know they are stupid.
Roald Dahl goes PC Books are subtly reedited with postmodern language and today's euphemisms.

Which is more dangerous and evil?

Posted by: rhennigantx at February 20, 2023 09:22 AM (BRHaw)

261 Let's face it. Government is the problem, especially in the Federal service, and in deep blue states. CA, looking at you.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at February 20, 2023 09:23 AM (u82oZ)

262 >>We're getting a taste of the future with regards to the rail disaster. The competence of those on the scene is the same as the competence of your new airline pilot, surgeon, structural engineer, etc. Woke, unqualified to do the job and very, very stupid.

The collapse, it continues apace.


I know, right?

Posted by: South Africa, now with no electricity! at February 20, 2023 09:23 AM (mqu1M)

263 That sounds rather plausible to me.

********

Why would the government need a high-altitude spy balloon with hovering capability and wide-angle high-resolution cameras with facial recognition or license plate tracking to determine who is driving "to the Azheimer's clinic"?

Wouldn't it just be easier to steal the clinic's sign-in sheet?

Posted by: Muldoon at February 20, 2023 09:23 AM (ykeLU)

264 Or implant brain GPS locator chips in our brains via the nanobot COVID mRNA vaccines?

Posted by: Muldoon at February 20, 2023 09:24 AM (ykeLU)

265 "Navigating VA right now. Rocks and shoals."

And it only gets worse.

Good luck.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 20, 2023 09:24 AM (uLr+K)

266 I love TITS!!!

https://tinyurl.com/ykakaf7t

Posted by: the dirty vicar at February 20, 2023 09:24 AM (Vwz3I)

267 redridinghood

After hurricanes, Walmart and Waffle House do more with less than all of the Federal government.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at February 20, 2023 09:25 AM (u82oZ)

268 Catturd ™
@catturd2


Biden runs to Ukraine.

Trump is going to Ohio.

That's all you really need to know. It's that simple.

Posted by: redridinghood at February 20, 2023 09:25 AM (NpAcC)

269 So Brave Sir Joe went to Ukraine ... Ukraine but not Our Southern Border....

Posted by: It's me donna at February 20, 2023 09:26 AM (bs+z0)

270 Assume the most malignant motivation of those in the federal government-- that is the true motivation.

They stole an election and are locking up dissidents as felons for daring to complain
They forced you to wear a mask, locked you in your home and mandated you take an poorly tested experimental drug, with hundreds and thousands arrested if they complained
They've borrowed trillion of dollars on your credit for their friends and called you unpatriotic if you object.

They are an occupying enemy, they behave like it, they speak like it, they rule like it-- one we are still pretending they are Americans

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at February 20, 2023 09:26 AM (5EnGD)

271 263 That sounds rather plausible to me.

********

Why would the government need a high-altitude spy balloon with hovering capability and wide-angle high-resolution cameras with facial recognition or license plate tracking to determine who is driving "to the Azheimer's clinic"?

Wouldn't it just be easier to steal the clinic's sign-in sheet?
Posted by: Muldoon at February 20, 2023 09:23 AM (ykeLU)

Amusingly, no.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at February 20, 2023 09:26 AM (eYoxG)

272 Before I retired we had a "transgender themed" briefing... back in 2019 I think. The briefing was to tell the Command what the policies would be regarding male -> female and female -> male weirdos in the Army.

Black female soldiers were the most outspoken against it.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 20, 2023 09:26 AM (Q4IgG)

273 So Brave Sir Joe went to Ukraine ... Ukraine but not Our Southern Border....
Posted by: It's me donna at February 20, 2023 09:26 AM (bs+z0)



And we're funding their pensions. But not ours.

Posted by: Don LeMon at February 20, 2023 09:26 AM (Zz0t1)

274 Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper
JUST IN - Biden made a secret trip to Kyiv, Ukraine on Monday, arriving after an hours long train ride from the border of Poland - NYT

Posted by: the dirty vicar at February 20, 2023 09:26 AM (Vwz3I)

275 Crap.....

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 20, 2023 09:27 AM (Zz0t1)

276 Muldoon

I aver that the most important part of Obamacare to the Feds. was the move to electronic medical records. So they can put them in a file, and cross them with political reliability. Probably using Google to assist in that effort.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at February 20, 2023 09:27 AM (u82oZ)

277 The DoD Instruction stipulates that if a person “self-identifies” as a person of the opposite sex, and if the Defense Enrollment Eligibility Reporting System (DEERS) changes a person’s bureaucratic “gender marker,” a man claiming to be a woman must be treated as a woman, and vice versa.

Military commanders, doctors and nurses, chaplains, and military men and women at all levels must endorse and act on this ideological belief or suffer career penalties if they don’t. Alleged “biases against transgender individuals,” which are prohibited, could include anything from “misgendering” people with the wrong pronouns to expressions of concern about medically questionable hormone treatments or surgeries for adults or military dependent children.

I know a guy that just got the Lupron for prostate cancer. He is supposed to call in weekly to a nurse and report his health and mental health.

And we are giving that shit to CHILDREN!

Posted by: rhennigantx at February 20, 2023 09:27 AM (BRHaw)

278 News is saying Biden took a ten hour train ride to Kiev from Poland. Can anyone confirm this?

********

Agatha Christie covered this in "Mutterer on the Orient Express"

Posted by: Muldoon at February 20, 2023 09:28 AM (ykeLU)

279 @240 I saw the video of the Franklin coming into Bremerton after it was damaged at Okinawa and sailed across the Pacific. My reaction was "they got across the ocean on that ? Amazing men

Posted by: Smell the Glove at February 20, 2023 09:29 AM (FGRkI)

280 Muldoon

*Snort*

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at February 20, 2023 09:29 AM (u82oZ)

281 For the last 20 years, every spending bill coming from congress had the same common feature:

Pennies for actual Americans, and literal billions and billions for corporations and foreign governments.

Who do they serve? Who are they rewarding?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at February 20, 2023 09:30 AM (5EnGD)

282 >>I aver that the most important part of Obamacare to the Feds. was the move to electronic medical records. So they can put them in a file, and cross them with political reliability. Probably using Google to assist in that effort.


THIS
Not just analysis, but so they could use medical history against us, such as to take away gun rights, or to exert pressure on a political foe (now that they don't have to break into your doctor's paper files to retrieve secrets), etc.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 20, 2023 09:31 AM (mqu1M)

283 NOODlum.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 20, 2023 09:31 AM (Zz0t1)

284 Agatha Christie covered this in "Mutterer on the Orient Express"
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SPOILER
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.
.
They ALL shit Joe's pants!

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at February 20, 2023 09:31 AM (Vwz3I)

285 Time for chores.

Everyone have a blessed day, and may the Tsar be far away.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at February 20, 2023 09:31 AM (u82oZ)

286
THIS
Not just analysis, but so they could use medical history against us, such as to take away gun rights, or to exert pressure on a political foe (now that they don't have to break into your doctor's paper files to retrieve secrets), etc.
Posted by: Lizzy at February 20, 2023 09:31 AM (mqu1M)



This is why I don't go to the Dr.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 20, 2023 09:31 AM (Zz0t1)

287 Kiss him, Mr President!

https://tinyurl.com/2s3sd8ps

Posted by: DB - Spanning the globe at February 20, 2023 09:31 AM (geLO8)

288 I aver that the most important part of Obamacare to the Feds. was the move to electronic medical records. So they can put them in a file, and cross them with political reliability. Probably using Google to assist in that effort.
Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at February 20, 2023 09:27 AM (u82oZ)

Ocare was to add about $500B in tax revenue as people i non-conforming plans we to be taxed at a rate so that there cost was equal to the local Ocare plan. EG If you insurance is 800/mth and Ocare is 1600 then at the end of the year you owe 800*12=9600 in taxes. It has not been done, YET!

Posted by: rhennigantx at February 20, 2023 09:32 AM (BRHaw)

289 269 So Brave Sir Joe went to Ukraine ... Ukraine but not Our Southern Border....

Posted by: It's me donna at February 20, 2023 09:26 AM (bs+z0)


Brave Sir Joe is going to boast forever that he was under fire because air raid sirens were sounding while he was outside with Zelensky. I have no doubt those sirens were blaring at that particular time by Z-Man's order, as a political favor to Joe, not for a real air raid threat.

Posted by: Gref at February 20, 2023 09:32 AM (AMIL/)

290
So the plot to *MASH* has become reality.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at February 20, 2023 09:32 AM (enJYY)

291 >>>The Ghost of Kiev was Lyle Waggoner?

>The Ghost of Endor is Gopher.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at February 20, 2023 09:33 AM (Jg7EG)

292 Irish Democracy in the Spy Balloon era:

Everybody hop in your car and drive down to the Alzheimer's Clinic at the same time.

(This plan would have worked but most of us forgot what day it was)

Posted by: Muldoon at February 20, 2023 09:33 AM (ykeLU)

293 ...and where we parked our car

Posted by: Muldoon at February 20, 2023 09:33 AM (ykeLU)

294 >>And we are giving that shit to CHILDREN!


It is genocide, no different that the forced sterilization of Uighurs in China -- they just have different methods of getting it done.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 20, 2023 09:33 AM (mqu1M)

295 Broken clock? Newsweek
" we must scrutinze the way all but conservative media outlets have run interference for Fetterman "

Posted by: Fool Otto at February 20, 2023 09:38 AM (DB16e)

296 Your retired engineer doesn't seem to have much experience with certain chemicals. What he envisions happens to these railcars is not what happens. I was a chemical engineer for Dow Chemical for nearly 10 years, and in a plant that handled vinyl chloride and other similar chemicals in pressurized tanks. First, there was a fire at the derailment. Not sure what it was, but reports were that there was already a fire. As the tank cars holding certain chemicals like vinyl chloride heat, they pressurize because the liquid starts to boil. These tank cars are not vented because of the type of chemical they carry. If the fire around these cars can't be contained, the danger is that these tank cars will BLEVE (Boiling Liquid Expanding Vapor Explosion). Look it up. These are explosions that look like those failed NASA rocket launches of the 1950's and 1960's. If that had happened to the railcars, it would have wiped the town off the map. It really would have been like a small nuclear explosion, just without the radioactivity.

I suspect the emergency responders were trying to prevent that by burning off the chemicals more gradually and without the overpressurization of the tank cars.

Posted by: ruralcounsel at February 20, 2023 09:39 AM (96wFa)

297 BLEVE - Boiling Liquid Expanding Vapor Explosion

What you need is a visual explanation of a BLEVE

Murdock, Illinois Train Wreck of 1983

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRP5FeYenuI

The fire was fed by burning liquid from a different a tankcar.

The whole tankcar was thrown 3,640 feet.

REPEAT

The whole tankcar was thrown 3,640 feet.

Posted by: MachiasPrivateer at February 20, 2023 09:56 AM (EMi53)

298 "Instead of paying lip service to the founding, conservatives would do well to focus on the American citizen—the problems he is having here and now. "
Why BAP (Not National Review) Appeals to the Young Right


From the article:

Again, all of this explains why Trump’s 2016 platform, shaped largely by Steve Bannon, was so powerful and garnered so much immediate and vociferous support. His failure to accomplish most of the goals set out in that platform also explains why he lost his reelection bid.

Annnnnd this is where I stopped reading. President Trump won his re-election bid in a landslide. What explains why he "lost" is the election was rigged and stolen by the Uniparty Deep State.

I am not paying attention to anyone - politician or pundit - who refuses to acknowledge that fact. Because if you have the root cause wrong, your solution will also be wrong.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at February 20, 2023 09:59 AM (Do5/p)

299 Tots!

Posted by: The North American Man Boy Lincoln Association at February 20, 2023 10:00 AM (Vu7A1)

300 296 Posted by: ruralcounsel at February 20, 2023 09:39 AM (96wFa)

297 Posted by: MachiasPrivateer at February 20, 2023 09:56 AM (EMi53)


Your points are well taken and thank you. My concern is, given who is running this government and the level of competency now that DEI rules the day in hiring practices, as well as the railroad itself, how can we be sure that the situation was as they claimed it to be?

Recall that there was an actual reporter on site close enough to witness what was going on and he was arrested. For his own protection because he was a pain in the ass? Could be. Because he would have seen things that painted the responders and government in a less than favorable light? Ditto.

Either way, thanks to COVID and the election thievery and the blatant persecution of the DOJ/FBI/CIA, we can no longer trust people and institutions that we often rely on in life and death situations like this one.

All around a shitty position to be in.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 20, 2023 10:02 AM (x0n13)

301
What you need is a visual explanation of a BLEVE

The whole tankcar was thrown 3,640 feet.

Posted by: MachiasPrivateer at February 20, 2023 09:56 AM


So, don't drive your Chevy to the BLEVE 'cause the tanker might fly?

Posted by: Don Mclean at February 20, 2023 10:09 AM (enJYY)

302 touche JJ!!

Posted by: Qmark at February 20, 2023 10:11 AM (+t9Oi)

303 First, there was a fire at the derailment. Not sure what it was, but reports were that there was already a fire.
Posted by: ruralcounsel at February 20, 2023 09:39 AM (96wFa)
---------------------
Since your entire disinfo effort rests on this claim, why did you not provide a link?

We are getting so many new nics with claims of special knowledge that it almost seems like an organized effort. Which is, of course, exactly what it is.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at February 20, 2023 10:11 AM (uliM6)

304
We took all our social media revenue and gave it to the people most affected by the toxic explosion in East Palestine.

These reactions say it all.

We don’t need to wait for the government to help out our fellow Americans in need.

Please watch…

https://tinyurl.com/fmk9yhh8

Posted by: redridinghood at February 20, 2023 09:21 AM


The Benny Johnson video was nice. He handed out $1,000 checks to the 20 homes closest to the train wreck. One guy, loading a truck didn't want to talk to him at first. Then he got the check and was glad as he was packing his truck to move away and needed it for rent deposit.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at February 20, 2023 10:20 AM (enJYY)

305 Good morning, all, and thank you, JJ.

It's too easy to claim vinyl chloride was the main chemical hazard onboard the train. There were cars containing chemicals that have no established permissible exposure limits (PELs) for humans, had low flashpoints, produce dangerous byproducts when heated, and have potential to create other hazards. It's also unsettling that by some reports, >75% of the RR co's lobbyist are former feds but, again, that's not unusual between any government agency - federal or otherwise - and the private sector.

Remember the Flint water fiasco? Nine state employees - including the govenor - were charged and indicted. The EPA continues to oversee monitoring & the city's transition of its water supply & it awarded $100 Million to Michigan for Flint Water Infrastructure Upgrades.

Flint residents also sued for constitutional violations in both state and federal courts & rec'd a $600 million settlement.
No private sector suits were involved there; only those brought against various levels of government, related to the city of Flint.

Posted by: Lola at February 20, 2023 10:27 AM (Wxlzw)

306 I think these Soros DAs, like the one in L.A., don't charge for gun possession is because they want the violence. Then then can ban guns completely.

Posted by: PJ at February 20, 2023 10:51 AM (G1dq6)

307 O’Connell's murder may have been motivated by the damage one of his illegal immigrant clients did.

Posted by: Valiant at February 20, 2023 11:27 AM (cy2xC)

308 I'm making $100 an hour working from home. i was greatly surprised at the same time as my neighbour advised me she changed into averaging $100 however I see the way it works now. I experience mass freedom now that I'm my non-public boss.
I highly recommend everyone to apply… www.Payathome7.com

Posted by: www.Payathome7.com at February 20, 2023 11:42 AM (nk+PP)

309 "...level of competency of those charged with our safety, on the ground and behind a desk, and worse, pure evil if doing this was an act of political retribution."

Barry Soetero occupied Washington for 8 years listening to Valerie Jarrett, Eric Holder, David Axelrod, Loretta Lynch, Hillary Clinton and John Kerry, (nobody listened to Biden) among other stellar, thoroughly qualified, globalist, Soros supported staff.

We and the world are in chaos, food plants destroyed, air and water poisoned, we are told to get jabbed, unjabbed illegals and "refugees" are bussed or flown into red cities, inflation is eating up savings, crime is stalking our streets, children are transitioned, and money and arms go to the Ukraine, the 3rd most corrupt country in the world.

Not to worry, Dims will fix it all in 2024, when "shovel ready" jobs finally deliver "Fundamental Change We Believe In" with Mooch hauling 'Pants Crease' out of their 4 mansions in 4 states.

Posted by: Ju at February 20, 2023 11:45 AM (aTmM/)

310 Benny Johnson tried to suggest that something nuclear happened in Ohio at one point. Dude seems WAY sketchy in his assessments. Also I'm not sure how Zelensky is suposed to be as Benny claims a warmonger. Russia invaded Ukraine. You are not a warmonger for trying to avoid the military subjugation and absorption of the nation you lead.

Posted by: EM at February 20, 2023 12:38 PM (4jjtQ)

311 303 First, there was a fire at the derailment. Not sure what it was, but reports were that there was already a fire.
Posted by: ruralcounsel at February 20, 2023 09:39 AM (96wFa)
---------------------
Since your entire disinfo effort rests on this claim, why did you not provide a link?

We are getting so many new nics with claims of special knowledge that it almost seems like an organized effort. Which is, of course, exactly what it is.

-----------------
Fox News (Tucker Carlson) had a local welder on the other night whose shop had a CCTV camera mounted on their shop roof pointed toward the tracks. When the derailment happened, there was a flash that the welder said was the start of the fire. Go look it up.

Posted by: ruralcounsel at February 20, 2023 01:08 PM (96wFa)

312 Go look it up.
Posted by: ruralcounsel at February 20, 2023 01:08 PM (96wFa)
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Nah bruh

Posted by: Huck Follywood at February 20, 2023 02:00 PM (Rhve6)

313 I am a mechanical engineer over the age of 29 who designs pressure vessels made of various materials(mostly steel) and I further confirm the retired engineers analysis.

Posted by: Danimal28 at February 20, 2023 03:23 PM (klw0w)

314 It's gone from wrong, to simply baffling.

The main problem is the press - they are not reporting what is actually happening, and since the administration is constantly lying, nothing makes any sense.

Posted by: Inspector Kemp at February 20, 2023 03:25 PM (+DS2f)

315 I see BLEVEs were mentioned. A railcar-sized BLEVE can kill at a mile distance. Just watch the training film everyone who gets farther than basic quant and qual in college chemistry has to watch. Very sad little note at the end, the cameraman, more than a mile from the derailment, died.

Vinyl chloride is a gas at room temperature and pressure. It will basically automatically BLEVE if the tank is ruptured, as the liquid will boil as soon as the pressure is relieved. Same as propane, butane, any flammable gas transported as a liquid under pressure.

Posted by: Bruce Anderson at February 20, 2023 06:04 PM (RwdcF)

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