THE MORNING RANT: Which Form of Tyranny Would You Prefer When the Left Kills Off Western Civilization?

When the left has successfully killed off western civilization, which of the most likely alternatives would you prefer if you’re still around?

- American / European style wokeness
- Chinese style digital surveillance state
- Muslim sharia

This is a subject for which I’ve started to write an essay several times, but then stopped, because I really don’t have a thesis or recommendation, other than repeating how critical it is for us to aggressively fight back before all is lost and irrecoverable.

We have to save what’s left of western civilization, because all the replacement options are terrifying.

The American and European left have hyped bigotry, environmental apocalypse, and a bizarre gender agenda to aggressively destroy the institutions that civilization relies on. The foundations which hold up our civilization are being lost. These include family, patriotism, individualism, traditional faith, freedom, and the western canon.

Oh, they also want to eliminate reliable, carbon-based energy production, without there being a successor to it. That is akin to the deadly civilizational reorganization that Mao and Pol Pot attempted.

In Europe, its large and growing Muslim population has been agreeable to letting the woke left destroy the old order. But the Muslim/Woke alliance is only temporary, serving to extinguish the dying remnants of Judeo-Christian civilization, which is the last impediment to the emerging European caliphate.

With a collapsing birth rate and negative population growth - except for the Muslim population – and an ongoing wave of immigration, it is inevitable that much of western Europe will eventually become Muslim-majority. It may take many decades to become a total majority, but it will not be that long until the younger population in several European countries is Muslim-majority.

Just like “woke sharia” was imposed on America by a small number of activists seizing institutions and intimidating those in positions of authority, it won’t require a Muslim majority to impose sharia in Western Europe, just some very passionate zealots who defy the ruling class to stop them, at the risk of being called Islamophobic if there is any pushback.

The woke diversity brigades may eventually be surprised about what happened to their former allies’ tolerance for diversity when European Muslims no longer have to tolerate the left’s freak show.

After carbon “net zero” is fully implemented and Europeans and Americans have shivered in the cold long enough - and buried those who starved to death after the elimination of petroleum and modern agriculture - other forms of tyranny might be welcomed.

Whatever terrible things you might want to say about the Chinese surveillance state or Islamic sharia, they’re not opposed to carbon-based energy production.

Globalists and their cartel of monopoly corporations are deeply enamored with Chinese tyranny. They look at China’s ability to digitally cancel an individual’s existence and remotely put him under house arrest for any wrongthink as a model to emulate.

But again, once the woke left has destroyed the family and eliminated all energy production and food production in the West, will China’s modern surveillance state look better by comparison? Food and warm shelter are persuasive selling points when you no longer have access to those basic human needs.

Western civilization is imperfect because people are imperfect, but nothing else in human existence has done more to foster freedom and eliminate poverty than the civilization that the left is determined to destroy. Its destruction will lead to tyranny.

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The Green Project, The Quota Project, and the Androgyny Project

As I’ve noted before, Michael Lind’s politics and mine haven’t always aligned, but to his credit, he rejected the neo-conservative agenda of foreign wars and nation building while people like me were still trying to defend George W. Bush. I wrongly assumed at the time that if people were criticizing Bush, they were little different from Vietnam-era anti-military leftists. Mea culpa.

Anyhow, Mr. Lind has written a “read every word of it” article about the left’s war on western civilization. His diagnosis of the left’s suicidal agenda is spot on. He also rejects the notion of compromise when standing up to the fringe that has gained control of the left. Reality-based people must stop these crazy people, and above all else, it is imperative that rational, friends-of-the-working-class leftists dare to stand up against the woke agenda.

The Power Mad Utopians [Michael Lind / Tablet – 01/30/2023]

Lind breaks the woke agenda down into three utopian endeavors: the Green Project; the Quota Project; and the Androgyny Project.

Three social engineering projects define progressivism in the 2020s: the Green Project, the Quota Project, and the Androgyny Project.
The Green Project or Green New Deal is not satisfied with decarbonizing energy sources. It invokes climate change as an excuse to radically restructure the society of the U.S. and other advanced industrial democracies, from the way that food is grown to where people live to how people behave.
The Quota Project, embodied in the rote bureaucratic phrase “diversity, equity, and inclusion” (DEI), is another utopian project. Its goal is the radical restructuring of the U.S. and other Western societies on the basis of racial quotas… Like the Green Transition, the Quota Project is a radical utopian program of social reconstruction in search of an excuse that might justify it.
The Androgyny Project holds that gender identity is independent of biological sex and purely subjective… The bizarre theory that sex is entirely a social construction has led much of the trans-Atlantic establishment to attempt to impose speech codes on society.

It’s not a short essay, so I am just going to excerpt a few more quotes.

Like all utopian social engineering projects, the Green Project, the Quota Project, and the Androgyny Project are at odds with reality and are doomed to fail. The Green Project is doomed by physics and engineering. Today 80% of the world’s energy comes from fossil fuels.
The Androgyny Project, for its part, is bound to crash against reality in the form of human biology. I predict that in a generation the “progressive” policy of so-called “gender-affirming health care” will be viewed in hindsight the way the prescription of lobotomies and chemical castration as cures for homosexuality in the 1950s is viewed today.

An obvious question arises: If these utopian projects are so inherently at odds with reality, then how can widespread elite support for them in any given era be explained? The answer, in the case of today’s progressivism as well as various ideological manias of the past, is a combination of cowardice, careerism, and cash.
Cowardice: Nobody on today’s center-left wants to be ostracized for pointing out that solar and renewable energy cannot power an industrial civilization with 7 or 8 billion people.
Careerism: DEI provides lots of lucrative jobs, fellowships, HR positions, deanships, professorships, foundation grants, and corporate gifts.
Cash: Prophets are followed by profiteers

What can be done?

It took a broad-based coalition of liberals, social democrats, and populist conservatives to thwart the utopians of the Bush era center-right, and it will take an equally broad and varied coalition to block the insane social engineering projects of the Biden era center-left.

Good point, except that it is quite a stretch to call the woke agenda in the Biden era “center-left.” This whole piece refutes the notion that there is anything close to “center” about the woke agenda in the Biden era.

The struggle to break the power of the new utopian progressivism must be a struggle within the Democratic Party to reclaim the power now held by a small cadre of well-organized and well-financed progressive radicals. Freed from a forced association with Green lunatics, anti-racist lunatics, and androgynist lunatics, tomorrow’s center-left might focus again on sensible real-world projects like raising wages and increasing economic security for all.

All in all, this is a great piece, but I fear that it would take some crushing defeats at the polls for Democrats to get the backbone to stand up to the radical left, and unfortunately, there are certain “election fortifications” employed in blue and purple states to prevent those election losses from happening.

Lind concludes…

The diverse members of the anti-progressive front can and should use every peaceful method, from voting in elections to lawfare (litigation) to peaceful protest and satire, in order to frustrate, delay, damage, cripple, divert, stall, and ultimately topple and dismantle the three lumbering juggernauts of green lunacy, equity lunacy, and gender lunacy.

Be it Pol Pot’s Cambodia, Mao’s China, Castro’s Cuba, or Chavez’s Venezuela, when the left attempts to re-order society by force, widespread death and poverty follow. That will happen to us too if we don’t stop this woke insanity.

Songs of the Season

Tomorrow is Valentine’s Day! How about a beautiful love song to celebrate the day.

“The First Time Ever I saw Your Face” – Roberta Flack

The first time ever I saw your face
I thought the sun rose in your eyes
And the moon and the stars were the gifts you gave
To the dark and the endless skies, my love
And the first time ever I kissed your mouth
I felt the earth move in my hand
Like the trembling heart of a captive bird
That was there at my command, my love
And the first time ever I lay with you
I felt your heart so close to mine
And I knew our joy would fill the earth
And last 'til the end of time my love
The first time ever I saw your face
Your face, your face, your face

Have a great week.

[buck.throckmorton at protonmail dot com]

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at 11:00 AM

Comments

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1 sponge

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some Best Pictures at February 13, 2023 11:00 AM (LvTSG)

2 It's 11:00!

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at February 13, 2023 11:00 AM (N1tpc)

3 Not Firsticles.

Posted by: Puddihead at February 13, 2023 11:01 AM (ifUkZ)

4 Top 5?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 13, 2023 11:01 AM (J2vNu)

5 hiya

Posted by: JT at February 13, 2023 11:01 AM (T4tVD)

6 top 10 ftw

Posted by: SturmToddler at February 13, 2023 11:02 AM (Mkvkw)

7 I'll take Benevolent Despotism for $1000.

Posted by: Roland THTG at February 13, 2023 11:02 AM (j40lz)

8 None of the above?

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at February 13, 2023 11:02 AM (UW/qx)

9 little totalitarian humor here... KJP doesn't know or care what NORAD is and the Peoples Republic of Canada has been renamed "Canadia". Try to keep up.

https://tinyurl.com/mav8vype

Posted by: Huck Follywood at February 13, 2023 11:03 AM (BNHnQ)

10 If those are the only three choices I'll side with the fellow monotheists.

Posted by: sven at February 13, 2023 11:03 AM (Lzpvj)

11 Willowed because apropos:

The Biden admin is proposing new rules that would make it possible to bar all conservatives from working in the government. This is a BIG deal.

https://tinyurl.com/2p958sk6

Posted by: Archimedes at February 13, 2023 11:03 AM (eOEVl)

12 "The diverse members of the anti-progressive front can and should use every peaceful method, from voting in elections to lawfare (litigation) to peaceful protest and satire, in order to frustrate, delay, damage, cripple, divert, stall, and ultimately topple and dismantle the three lumbering juggernauts of green lunacy, equity lunacy, and gender lunacy.
Be it Pol Pot’s Cambodia, Mao’s China, Castro’s Cuba, or Chavez’s Venezuela, when the left attempts to re-order society by force, widespread death and poverty follow. That will happen to us too if we don’t stop this woke insanity."

Hmmm. Yeah, not going to comment on this one.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 13, 2023 11:03 AM (zZu0s)

13 well ain't this a ray of f***ing sunshine

Posted by: DB at February 13, 2023 11:03 AM (geLO8)

14 On the woke v. Sharia, I can't recall where I read it, but I remember someone who found that once a population becomes 10% muslim, massive violence occurs lasting until the population was something around 90% muslim, at which point it becomes "peaceful" again.

So Europe has that going for it soon.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at February 13, 2023 11:04 AM (N1tpc)

15 Sheesh.
Valentines day.
A bogus day made up be greeting card companies. $7.99 for a small one now.
I'll just fix dinner.
Roberta Flack rocks!

Posted by: Diogenes at February 13, 2023 11:04 AM (anj39)

16 Whatever comes after the crash, life will be short and brutal.

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 13, 2023 11:04 AM (8V7g+)

17 Apropos of everything:

Breaking: State Department urging Americans to leave Russia immediately.

They're going to go ahead and do it aren't they?

You Manics!!

Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 13, 2023 11:04 AM (xlag0)

18 Willowed:

Thanks, that nicely explains what the actual intent of the ads is (basically "Jesus loves gays and illegals and conservatives suck!").

They best be careful. Jesus and the moneychangers in the temple?

I can see Jesus going thru a planned parenthood clinic with a bullwhip.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 13, 2023 11:04 AM (SbJgO)

19 I think if I HAD to choose one of the three, it would be sharia. At least the Left's freak show would be extinguished.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 13, 2023 11:05 AM (p+1gI)

20 Buck, you left the “a” off of “Roberta.”

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 13, 2023 11:05 AM (hTf8I)

21 I think it's going to go back to a tribal hunter/gatherer system. it won't be pretty.

Posted by: brak at February 13, 2023 11:05 AM (j5Tg0)

22 First an incredibly depressing painting and now an incredibly depressing rant on the destruction of Western civilization.
Sigh...Is this the new normal because I am not in f avor of this.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 13, 2023 11:05 AM (Y+l9t)

23 There was nothing center-right about the Bush era

Fuck the Bushes and their ilk (Romney, McCain, Rice Cakes)

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at February 13, 2023 11:05 AM (VTu1l)

24 Sharia- it's the most stable/understandable- at least you understand the rules and they're unlikely to change from day to day.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at February 13, 2023 11:05 AM (trVDr)

25 Sappy Roberta Flack. She has better material.

Posted by: garrett at February 13, 2023 11:05 AM (9qmLq)

26 Who knew the fourth Horseman would look like Biden?

Posted by: Puddihead at February 13, 2023 11:05 AM (ifUkZ)

27 I vote for the busty ginger tyranny!

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 13, 2023 11:05 AM (hTf8I)

28 When the left has successfully killed off western civilization, which of the most likely alternatives would you prefer if you’re still around?

- Muslim sharia

Because the left is gonna get one hell of a surprise.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 13, 2023 11:06 AM (SbJgO)

29 23 There was nothing center-right about the Bush era

Fuck the Bushes and their ilk (Romney, McCain, Rice Cakes)
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Never elect a former CIA Director to the WH. Just don't do it.

Posted by: Puddihead at February 13, 2023 11:06 AM (ifUkZ)

30 27 I vote for the busty ginger tyranny!
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 13, 2023 11:05 AM (hTf8I)

==========

Sorry.

She's taken.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some Best Pictures at February 13, 2023 11:06 AM (LvTSG)

31 Jesus mit flamenwerfer?

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 13, 2023 11:07 AM (8V7g+)

32 Sigh...Is this the new normal because I am not in f avor of this.

*************

I knew 2023 was going to be a bad year but I have to admit alien invasions, Ohio Chernobyl, Chinese Spy Balloons and Pfizer-Satan Worship at Grammys and Super Bowls wasn't on my 2023 bingo card.

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at February 13, 2023 11:07 AM (VTu1l)

33 Breaking: State Department urging Americans to leave Russia immediately.

They're going to go ahead and do it aren't they?

You Manics!!
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 13, 2023 11:04 AM (xlag0)

Well that would ruin pretty much everyone's day.

I am going to suppose that this is because they think there would be reprisals because of the Sy Hersh story.

And pray its not because WWIII is just about to start.

Posted by: blaster at February 13, 2023 11:07 AM (pwExq)

34 When the left has successfully killed off western civilization, which of the most likely alternatives would you prefer if you’re still around?

- American / European style wokeness
- Chinese style digital surveillance state
- Muslim sharia

I reject all of your choices.

I opt for option 4.

Option 4: A monarchy, with Jesus as sovereign ruler, King of kings, over all the Earth.

I have already adopted this allegiance, which puts me at odds with all the above, including western civilization.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February 13, 2023 11:07 AM (Zqeqr)

35 So the Fourth Horseman is Decrepitude?

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 13, 2023 11:07 AM (8V7g+)

36 So when do we get tranny cheerleaders and mechanics?

Posted by: Puddihead at February 13, 2023 11:07 AM (ifUkZ)

37 I mean how busty are we taking about?

A couple of handfuls or something more than that?

Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 13, 2023 11:07 AM (xlag0)

38 I vote for the busty ginger tyranny!
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 13, 2023 11:05 AM (hTf8I)

We're not worthy!

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 13, 2023 11:07 AM (4I/2K)

39 Sharia- it's the most stable/understandable- at least you understand the rules and they're unlikely to change from day to day.
Posted by: Farmer Bob at February 13, 2023 11:05 AM (trVDr)

Yeah... check out Pakistan for that. Unless you convert, you are subject to being accused of blasphemy at any point.

At which point, the villagers will be spurred into a frenzy and you will be stoned, lynched, stabbed, or torn apart.

"The rules" may not change, but the truth doesn't matter. (And you'll be killed for telling about The Truth.)

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at February 13, 2023 11:07 AM (N1tpc)

40 Never elect a former CIA Director to the WH. Just don't do it.

*kicks dirt*

Posted by: Mike Pompeo at February 13, 2023 11:07 AM (eOEVl)

41 > KJP doesn't know or care what NORAD is and the Peoples Republic of Canada has been renamed "Canadia". Try to keep up.

I've been calling her Kareen JabDull-Fubar.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 13, 2023 11:08 AM (bW8dp)

42 It took a broad-based coalition of liberals, social democrats, and populist conservatives to thwart the utopians of the Bush era center-right,

the demorats have been stealing key races in plain sight for decades prior to the MackDaddy of all stolen elections in 2020.

I'm thinking specifically of the PW GOP candidate for governor who had the election stolen from him due to more ballots coming in after election day, all for the demorat of course. The candidate had an Italian last name.

And then the MN Senate seat stolen by Al Franken.

and those are just two that come to mind right off the bat

Posted by: kallisto at February 13, 2023 11:08 AM (dCxaZ)

43 34 When the left has successfully killed off western civilization, which of the most likely alternatives would you prefer if you’re still around?

- American / European style wokeness
- Chinese style digital surveillance state
- Muslim sharia
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Lets just go full Viking and hack our way to a better world.

Posted by: Puddihead at February 13, 2023 11:08 AM (ifUkZ)

44 30 Oh, I think there are plenty of busty gingers to go around, TJM.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 13, 2023 11:08 AM (hTf8I)

45 If you have to pick from those three, sharia.

Civilizations have lived with it for hundreds of years, though it is grossly inefficient and terrible in many ways its better then the other two.

Sharia/Islam are caricatures of Christianity/Judaism remade to serve a warlord.

Chinese socialism and Wokeness are completely evil. Not only is there no goodness in them, there is no room for goodness under them.

Posted by: 18-1 at February 13, 2023 11:09 AM (lc5cP)

46 Willowed: The marketroids thought that "Oldsmobile" sounded old and stodgy (hence the ludicrous "this is not your father's Oldsmobile" campaign right before the brand went tits-up).

Me, I think they should have revived one of Ransom E. Olds's other marques -- the REO Speedwagon.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 13, 2023

***
They hid the "Oldsmobile" part as well as they could, just putting an "Aurora" script on the cars. Don't know why; everyone knew it was an Olds.

I saw nothing wrong with the name. Hey, Raymond Chandler had Philip Marlowe driving an Olds convertible in a late novel. Marlowe admits it's more expensive a car than he needs, but that it works well to impress clients and show that he's successful.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 13, 2023 11:09 AM (J2vNu)

47 42 and those are just two that come to mind right off the bat
Posted by: kallisto at February 13, 2023 11:08 AM (dCxaZ)

=========

JFK's vote totals in Illinois.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some Best Pictures at February 13, 2023 11:09 AM (LvTSG)

48 See the link in my nic for a persuasive case that the future of transhuman totalitarianism in The West will likely be more like Huxley's "Brave New World" than Orwell's "1984."

And here's a 2nd, more recent update on the subject by the same author (Ben Bartee) entitled "Mind Control: WEF Technocrats Openly Plot to Observe and Track Human Thoughts With Implants" --

https://tinyurl.com/f39zdjpr

Posted by: ShainS -- Slaves no longer require coercion because they love their servitude at February 13, 2023 11:09 AM (7HzXf)

49 Now that the Junta has eized for itself the legislative functions and much of what used to be judicial duties, I've been wondering for some time what institutions now are meaningful in America. The People are barred from the Capital upon pain of death, and the People's House is now heavily insulated from the citizenry by fences, snipers, blocked off roads and the like. Other than museums, and watch what you wear to those, Peons, the only place Americans can freely go is Justice Kavanaugh's house.

All agencies other than IC agencies have been co-opted into Propaganda roles, and the IC agencies are illegally weaponized (ie, no policing power was granted to the Feds in the Constitution) and are surveilling, arresting and jailing citizens without trial.

It is a new world and worthy of study.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at February 13, 2023 11:09 AM (gOxHC)

50 > Because the left is gonna get one hell of a surprise.

You mean there won't be any drag queen story hours in Mecca?

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 13, 2023 11:09 AM (bW8dp)

51 He also rejects the notion of compromise when standing up to the fringe that has gained control of the left.

You mean the fringe that is nearly half the country and always votes Democrat, even when the Democrat is mentally unwell, like Biden or Fetterman? At some point, conservatives have to wake up to the fact that their enemy is not some fringe. Hell, there are plenty on the so-called right, including Trump, who are onboard with homosexuality as normal and valid. We're the fringe. There's no silent majority that can be roused from its slumber.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at February 13, 2023 11:09 AM (KFhLj)

52 Howdy Buck! Great topics and great commentary. Thank you!

Posted by: Doof at February 13, 2023 11:10 AM (g1Pyf)

53 39- I was presuming "forced" conversion for all of them. Sure, I hope I have the strength of character to rebel/martyr myself, but that wasn't the question.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at February 13, 2023 11:10 AM (trVDr)

54 28 Posted by: rickb223 at February 13, 2023 11:06 AM (SbJgO)

They are venal and corrupt and tolerate the masses using their license just as much as they wish to if they are allies or paid.

The monothesists have more in common with each other than any have with Trigglypuff.

I'll hate it, I won't get what I wanted but neither will the woke.

Posted by: sven at February 13, 2023 11:10 AM (Lzpvj)

55 I saw nothing wrong with the name. Hey, Raymond Chandler had Philip Marlowe driving an Olds convertible in a late novel. Marlowe admits it's more expensive a car than he needs, but that it works well to impress clients and show that he's successful.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 13, 2023 11:09 AM (J2vNu)

They killed Pontiac, too. It wasn't about the names. GM had 5 brands all selling essentially the same cars. If Buick wasn't selling a lot in China it would be gone, too.

Posted by: blaster at February 13, 2023 11:11 AM (pwExq)

56 my post @ 42 was only to point out that it wasn't simply Leftist capture of academia, mass media, Big Tech that leaves us in our current state.

It's actual criminality perpetrated by the NWO-DNC

Posted by: kallisto at February 13, 2023 11:11 AM (dCxaZ)

57 Option 4: A monarchy, with Jesus as sovereign ruler, King of kings, over all the Earth.

***************

If there are kings who govern nation states who all answer to the King of kings, is it a monarchy?

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at February 13, 2023 11:11 AM (VTu1l)

58 Option 3 just makes driving a LOT safer.

...not to mention parking!

Posted by: garrett at February 13, 2023 11:11 AM (9qmLq)

59 - American / European style wokeness
- Chinese style digital surveillance state
- Muslim sharia

Any Chinese-style state in the US would be operated in service of wokeness/DEI/ESG, and the wokies are trying to construct one for exactly that purpose. So the choices are actually wokeness vs. growing a beard and marrying 4 wives.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 13, 2023 11:12 AM (ZGrMX)

60 "anti-progressive front can and should use every peaceful method, from voting in elections to lawfare (litigation) to peaceful protest and satire,"

Voting? The commies already have that sewn up in strategic places.
Lawfare? Like the judges that refuse to examine evidence of voter fraud?
Peaceful protest? I think those days are gone too. J6 has shown the way for BLM/Antifa and the FBI to infiltrate any meaningful protest.
Satire? A dude is looking at 10 years for memes he posted on twitter.

Posted by: Fool Otto at February 13, 2023 11:12 AM (DB16e)

61 If I can't keep a Republic, I think I would prefer a Caesar.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 13, 2023 11:12 AM (yQpMk)

62 It was easy to paint the anti war protesters in 2003 as rehashed Vietnam protesters. They used similar language. They disparaged the armed services, called soldiers baby killers, tried to get ROTC kicked off of campuses, and even advocated fragging....it fit at the time. Our side just trusted our leadership too much. I don't have a problem despising most of the protesters from the Bush era. They were terrible people.

Posted by: Mishdog at February 13, 2023 11:12 AM (uwW33)

63 > If Buick wasn't selling a lot in China it would be gone, too.

There was an old joke about a merger between Pontiac and Buick -- the Puick.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 13, 2023 11:12 AM (bW8dp)

64 Their dictator or ours?

Posted by: Remember Chile? at February 13, 2023 11:12 AM (dheQy)

65 "No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country."

George knew stuff.

Posted by: DB at February 13, 2023 11:12 AM (geLO8)

66 Four hegemons have walked into a steel cage. One or two will survive as hegemons.

US Deep State, EU Bureaucrats, Putin's Russian oligarchy adn the Chi-Coms.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 13, 2023 11:12 AM (SJsWC)

67 Lind is a really useful guy to follow. I still remember being absolutely blown away by his Fourth American Nation in college. His descriptions and diagnoses are very insightful.

If Left/Right is used, then they are "centrist". Their tactics are obv quite radical. But their strategic goals are a technocratic meritocracy. This is how they see themselves. They are the sane adults struggling against right wing and left wing maniacs: Hillary Clinton. If they have to use radical tactics it is the other sides fault.

Posted by: Thesokorus at February 13, 2023 11:12 AM (1ais2)

68 Breaking: State Department urging Americans to leave Russia immediately.

They're going to go ahead and do it aren't they?

You Manics!!
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 13, 2023 11:04 AM

Might want to go hit Walmart in the next day or so to stock up.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at February 13, 2023 11:12 AM (uNylN)

69 I saw nothing wrong with the name. Hey, Raymond Chandler had Philip Marlowe driving an Olds convertible in a late novel. Marlowe admits it's more expensive a car than he needs, but that it works well to impress clients and show that he's successful.

Every GenXer had grandparents that drove either an Olds or a Buick. That's where the reputation came from.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 13, 2023 11:13 AM (ZGrMX)

70 37 I mean how busty are we taking about?

A couple of handfuls or something more than that?
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 13, 2023 11:07 AM (xlag0)

Depends on who's hands were talking about:

https://tinyurl.com/ms7kpwmz

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 13, 2023 11:13 AM (zZu0s)

71 JFK's vote totals in Illinois.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some Best Pictures at February 13, 2023 11:09 AM (LvTSG)

well yeah, heck LBJ stole his way into the political arena at the local level.

I was trying to stay somewhat current. If the leaders that the people are actually choosing could be seated, the pendulum would surely be swinging back to the center. But NWO-DNC doesn't want that so here we are.

Posted by: kallisto at February 13, 2023 11:13 AM (dCxaZ)

72 In Europe, its large and growing Muslim population has been agreeable to letting the woke left destroy the old order. But the Muslim/Woke alliance is only temporary, serving to extinguish the dying remnants of Judeo-Christian civilization, which is the last impediment to the emerging European caliphate

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Related, from the "Jesus was a nice guy (not a savior) and he gets us" ad blitz:

"So far, hundreds of churches have signed up to respond to people who fill out connect forms on HeGetsUs.com. Scott Beck, CEO of Gloo, which is running that digital infrastructure, said he expects many more churches will join when the campaign launches nationally. There is no theological criteria or statement of faith that churches must adhere to in order to take part."

https://tinyurl.com/yyvppgq2

The chances are good that this is purposely leading people AWAY from Christ / Heaven.

Posted by: Costner wants to work 50 days a year, not 65. Keep giving them your money. at February 13, 2023 11:13 AM (EdaAK)

73 Ive been reading up on the eugenics movement of the 20s. Everything we're seeing now, from climate change to depopulation to euthanasia to tranny worship is eugenics by another name.

We're fighting a generations old war under new labels.

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at February 13, 2023 11:13 AM (VTu1l)

74 When the left has successfully killed off western civilization, which of the most likely alternatives would you prefer if you’re still around?
- American / European style wokeness
- Chinese style digital surveillance state
- Muslim sharia

*********

I think a lot of us (depending on your definition of 'us') sort of fantasize about being in a pocket of sanity among the chaos, along the lines of the Irish monks saving civilization in the Dark Ages.

Regardless of which form of tyranny prevails.

Probably a pipe dream.

Posted by: Muldoon at February 13, 2023 11:13 AM (ykeLU)

75 You mean the fringe that is nearly half the country and always votes Democrat, even when the Democrat is mentally unwell, like Biden or Fetterman?

Most of the Dem's voters, the lefty LIVs, only care about one thing - getting free shit.

Corruption? The destruction of our rights? The sexualization of kids? They do not care. They want a check, how the government gets the money they do not care, and they want that check as big as possible.

Posted by: 18-1 at February 13, 2023 11:13 AM (lc5cP)

76 > If I can't keep a Republic, I think I would prefer a Caesar.

An Augustus or Constantine might not be too bad.

With our luck, though, Hunter Biden would eventually be appearing in the role of Caligula or Elagabalus.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 13, 2023 11:13 AM (bW8dp)

77 I'll go with muslim sharia. Get to smoke a hookah all day, shoot ak-47's into the air at a whim, and blue haired land whales won't be fucking up the country.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 13, 2023 11:14 AM (VwHCD)

78 @60

>>A dude is looking at 10 years for memes he posted on twitter.

Remember, Antifa is just an idea that burns down cities and kills people, telling Democrats to vote on a different day is a direct threat to democracy or some such bullsh*t.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 13, 2023 11:14 AM (xlag0)

79 America is the New Rome

https://ytube.io/3arZ

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 13, 2023 11:14 AM (yQpMk)

80 They're going to go ahead and do it aren't they?
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Nope. This is theater. Its what someone does with a losing hand. Bluffs.

Posted by: Puddihead at February 13, 2023 11:14 AM (ifUkZ)

81 > > If I can't keep a Republic, I think I would prefer a Caesar.

I'd prefer a Cobb. Too many croutons in the Caeser.

Posted by: garrett at February 13, 2023 11:14 AM (9qmLq)

82 And pray its not because WWIII is just about to start.
Posted by: blaster at February 13, 2023 11:07 AM (pwExq)

Didn't they do the same thing prior to the Turkey earthquake?

Posted by: Thesokorus at February 13, 2023 11:14 AM (1ais2)

83 19 I think if I HAD to choose one of the three, it would be sharia. At least the Left's freak show would be extinguished.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 13, 2023 11:05 AM (p+1gI)

Nah, as a Catholic, I'd still probably have to pick wokeness b/c those folks are ultimately cowards.

Chinese surveillance state - horrid, and they hate the religous, too.

Sharia - horrid, and they truly hate the non-Muslim.

So, wokeness for the win b/c it would be like Christians going back into catacombs and "the in the know" having their society under the society. That's hard to do with constant surveillance or with laws actually created to bankrupt and enslave you (sharia)...

So, in a world of bad options, the least bad for the win...

Posted by: Nova Local at February 13, 2023 11:14 AM (exHjb)

84 Breaking: State Department urging Americans to leave Russia immediately.

They're going to go ahead and do it aren't they?

You Manics!!
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 13, 2023 11:04 AM

Might want to go hit Walmart in the next day or so to stock up.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at February 13, 2023 11:12 AM (uNylN)

And keep an eye out for hot mute chicks as potential companions.

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 13, 2023 11:14 AM (4I/2K)

85 I see what you did here. There cannot be a Roberta Flack without a Donny Hathaway. So, what you are saying is that Western Civilization is doing a header from the 15th floor of the Essex House.

Posted by: Now I Get It at February 13, 2023 11:14 AM (wrJpE)

86 George knew stuff.

************

That's why they killed him. My mom firmly believes he was assassinated because he inconveniently wanted to continue fighting the commies.

Once upon a time I poo pooed that as being a silly conspiracy.

Now I believe all the conspiracies.

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at February 13, 2023 11:15 AM (VTu1l)

87 A bogus day made up be greeting card companies. $7.99 for a small one now.
I'll just fix dinner.
Roberta Flack rocks!
Posted by: Diogenes

I got Smash a new Orchid. (Pfalmananamananan?) Her last one refuses to flower and is pissing her off.

Posted by: BifBewalski at February 13, 2023 11:15 AM (3CCua)

88 I'll go with muslim sharia. Get to smoke a hookah all day, shoot ak-47's into the air at a whim, and blue haired land whales won't be fucking up the country.

Right, Kathleen Kennedy would be fucked under sharia. Well, not literally.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 13, 2023 11:15 AM (ZGrMX)

89 Is “Manic” the singular of “Mannix?”

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 13, 2023 11:15 AM (hTf8I)

90 The woke diversity brigades may eventually be surprised about what happened to their former allies’ tolerance for diversity when European Muslims no longer have to tolerate the left’s freak show.

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"We're gonna need more street sweepers for skyscrapers, stat!"

Posted by: ShainS -- Slaves no longer require coercion because they love their servitude at February 13, 2023 11:15 AM (C9Xou)

91 > They're going to go ahead and do it aren't they?

Looks that way. And the ChiComs are now claiming that we've totally been flying balloons across China, too. Totally.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 13, 2023 11:16 AM (bW8dp)

92 > > If I can't keep a Republic, I think I would prefer a Caesar.

I'd prefer a Cobb. Too many croutons in the Caeser.
Posted by: garrett at February 13, 2023 11:14 AM (9qmLq)

I prefer a Garden with some, but not all, additional elements of the Cobb.

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 13, 2023 11:16 AM (4I/2K)

93 Every GenXer had grandparents that drove either an Olds or a Buick. That's where the reputation came from.
Posted by: Ian S. at February 13, 2023 11:13 AM (ZGrMX)

You're forgetting Lincolns.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at February 13, 2023 11:16 AM (N1tpc)

94 76 > If I can't keep a Republic, I think I would prefer a Caesar.

An Augustus or Constantine might not be too bad.
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Pinochet for the capes and helicopter rides.

Posted by: Puddihead at February 13, 2023 11:16 AM (ifUkZ)

95 Well duh

Margaret Sanger, winner of Nazi accolade, is still worshiped by the Democrat Party.

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 13, 2023 11:16 AM (8V7g+)

96 Sharia- it's the most stable/understandable- at least you understand the rules and they're unlikely to change from day to day.
Posted by: Farmer Bob

And you have carte blanche to declare fatwa and jihad on your enemies.

Posted by: BifBewalski at February 13, 2023 11:16 AM (3CCua)

97 I'll take a Muslim totalitarian state. Of course, as a RadTrad RCC, I would be killed or forced to pay jizya, but my withered, angry, crippled soul would consider it a small price to pay to see the whiny, self-absorbed, degenerate perverts that infest America thrown head-first off skyscrapers or hoisted by their necks on a construction crane.

I was reading The Encyclopedia of Crime by Colin Wilson and Pat Pitman yesterday; Wilson talks about the "Age of Sex Crime" and how end-of-the-road civilizations devolve into sexual degeneracy because a prosperous society which meets every man's desire for food and safety renders the man slave to his mind's longing for ever more perverse sexual pleasure.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 13, 2023 11:16 AM (AW0uW)

98
They killed Pontiac, too. It wasn't about the names. GM had 5 brands all selling essentially the same cars. If Buick wasn't selling a lot in China it would be gone, too.
Posted by: blaster at February 13, 2023

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I always thought their marketing scheme was: In your 20s, you bought a Chevy; 30s, Pontiac; 40s, Olds; 50s, Buick; and 60 or beyond, Cadillac.

By the time they axed Olds and Pontiac, yes, they were selling essentially the same cars. That was not always true. A Chevy Impala and a Buick Electra 225 ca. 1966 were different in wheelbase (I think), engines, and options.

In America, too, our marketing model has usually been entry/base model (of whatever), mid-level with more features, and the top-of-the-line. Aside from China's interest, they need Buick slotted in between Chevy and Cadillac.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 13, 2023 11:16 AM (J2vNu)

99 Looks that way. And the ChiComs are now claiming that we've totally been flying balloons across China, too. Totally.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 13, 2023 11:16 AM (bW8dp)

It's balloons all the way down.

Posted by: blaster at February 13, 2023 11:17 AM (pwExq)

100 So far, hundreds of churches have signed up to respond to people who fill out connect forms on HeGetsUs.com. Scott Beck, CEO of Gloo, which is running that digital infrastructure, said he expects many more churches will join when the campaign launches nationally. There is no theological criteria or statement of faith that churches must adhere to in order to take part.

Oh, ffs. There ARE no theological criteria or statements of faith...

Posted by: Archimedes at February 13, 2023 11:17 AM (eOEVl)

101 Speaking of all those despots and their countries, a Catholic priest in Nicaragua was just sentenced to 26 years of prison for treason. Looks like Ortega is using that as a tool to crush churches there.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at February 13, 2023 11:17 AM (nC+QA)

102 The notion of the Dark Ages is kind of odd. The Western Roman empire fell, in large measure, because the German warlords weren't any worse then the Roman leaders.

If "your" local ruler is going to tax you into literal slavery, disregard your nominal rights as a Roman citizen, and spends his days as a debauched hedonist why would you want to fight the German warlord that just wants his "10%" and a fancy crown?

Posted by: 18-1 at February 13, 2023 11:17 AM (lc5cP)

103 @80

>>Nope. This is theater. Its what someone does with a losing hand. Bluffs.

Perhaps, but I'd rather the lunatics in charge not go all YOLO/Strangelovian with regards to nuclear Armageddon.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 13, 2023 11:17 AM (xlag0)

104 They're going to go ahead and do it aren't they?

It's time to 25th Amendment the old coot and the Ho too

Posted by: It's me donna at February 13, 2023 11:17 AM (bs+z0)

105 I'll go with muslim sharia. Get to smoke a hookah all day, shoot ak-47's into the air at a whim, and blue haired land whales won't be fucking up the country.

Right, Kathleen Kennedy would be fucked under sharia. Well, not literally.
Posted by: Ian S.

Greta T, SoiHogg, & and others are fucked.
Hardest hit are trust fund babies who think their wealth buys freedom.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 13, 2023 11:17 AM (SbJgO)

106 > My mom firmly believes he was assassinated because he inconveniently wanted to continue fighting the commies.

So did MacArthur.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 13, 2023 11:17 AM (bW8dp)

107 43 Let's just go full Viking. Heh. Before the Muppets got woke, one of their funniest skits was the Muppets as Vikings, singing the Village People In the Navy. And then it evolves to them putting a hit on a Britain coastal town, with churches burning, houses burning, monks running for their lives, and Viking Muppets hauling off loot.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at February 13, 2023 11:17 AM (lz5hY)

108 >When the left has successfully killed off western civilization, which of the most likely alternatives would you prefer if you’re still around?

the question is posed as though one has already conceded the position

Posted by: DB at February 13, 2023 11:18 AM (geLO8)

109 I choose #4. Non compliance

Posted by: polynikes at February 13, 2023 11:18 AM (qnsfO)

110 So, wokeness for the win b/c it would be like Christians going back into catacombs and "the in the know" having their society under the society. That's hard to do with constant surveillance or with laws actually created to bankrupt and enslave you (sharia)...

So, in a world of bad options, the least bad for the win...
Posted by: Nova Local at February 13, 2023 11:14 AM (exHjb)

Additionally, it's wise to go with the Devil you know vs. the Devil you don't know.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at February 13, 2023 11:18 AM (N1tpc)

111 “- American / European style wokeness
- Chinese style digital surveillance state
- Muslim sharia”

The demonic vultures of a civilized society.

Posted by: 7man at February 13, 2023 11:18 AM (qwO6y)

112 Attempted sharia responded to with domestic revolution and the installation of a rational monarch for the purpose of executing the holy war to defend western civilization against the hordes.

Hey, a man can dream.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 13, 2023 11:19 AM (t0OGg)

113 If I can't keep a Republic, I think I would prefer a Caesar.

I'd prefer a Cobb. Too many croutons in the Caeser.
Posted by: garrett at February 13, 2023

***
A Caesar (as in emperor) like Julius or Augustus, or Vespasian and Titus, or Trajan or Hadrian, yes. One like Caligula, Nero, or Domitian, no.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 13, 2023 11:19 AM (J2vNu)

114 "As 99 red balloons go by"

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 13, 2023 11:19 AM (8V7g+)

115 A: Not picking as I will indeed be dead before any or all of these are imposed on me.

B: Muslim sharia is probably 'least bad'. I can't believe I'm saying that after 9-11 but it at least is a moral code based on/twisted on Judeo Christian values. I'll take an observant muslim over a woke monster or a techno oligarch.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at February 13, 2023 11:19 AM (lEVn+)

116 Every GenXer had grandparents that drove either an Olds or a Buick. That's where the reputation came from.
Posted by: Ian S. at February 13, 2023 11:13 AM (ZGrMX)

You're forgetting Lincolns.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at February 13, 2023 11:16 AM (N1tpc)

Lowest cost per pound and lowest cost per square inch of sheet metal slabs.

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 13, 2023 11:19 AM (4I/2K)

117 I told you only Rivers of Blood will solve this.

Posted by: Puddihead at February 13, 2023 11:19 AM (ifUkZ)

118 "There is no theological criteria or statement of faith that churches must adhere to in order to take part."
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Oh, ffs. There ARE no theological criteria or statements of faith...

Posted by: Archimedes

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Yes, that was the problem. Good catch.

Posted by: Costner wants to work 50 days a year, not 65. Keep giving them your money. at February 13, 2023 11:20 AM (EdaAK)

119 Killing Me Softly was played for my first slow dance in the 7th grade. I felt funny down there.

Posted by: polynikes at February 13, 2023 11:20 AM (qnsfO)

120 >>A Caesar (as in emperor) like Julius or Augustus, or Vespasian and Titus, or Trajan or Hadrian, yes. One like Caligula, Nero, or Domitian, no.

Really, we're just arguing over Dressings.

Posted by: garrett at February 13, 2023 11:20 AM (9qmLq)

121 My mom firmly believes he was assassinated because he inconveniently wanted to continue fighting the commies.

So did MacArthur.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 13, 2023 11:17 AM

So did Patton and the OSS (CIA) took him out because they were afraid he would start WWII with the Rooskis.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at February 13, 2023 11:20 AM (uNylN)

122 Every GenXer had grandparents that drove either an Olds or a Buick. That's where the reputation came from.
Posted by: Ian S. at February 13, 2023
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You're forgetting Lincolns.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at February 13, 2023

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And Chrysler's Imperial, too.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 13, 2023 11:20 AM (J2vNu)

123 An obvious question arises: If these utopian projects are so inherently at odds with reality, then how can widespread elite support for them in any given era be explained? The answer, in the case of today’s progressivism as well as various ideological manias of the past, is a combination of cowardice, careerism, and cash.
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I think that answer is a bit too convenient. Those are the trappings, not the causes or, for the true believers, even the motivations.

Utopianism of any kind throughout history has hubris as its root: the belief that man is perfectible, as are his systems and that *they* (whoever "they" are at any given time) are the ones who will finally spill enough blood to achieve it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 13, 2023 11:21 AM (t0OGg)

124 "Lets just go full Viking and hack our way to a better world."

We've had Christian values, which tend to peace and love and tolerance. A core teaching is that even if you have the personal power to do something you shouldn't if it's bad.

We're being threathened with Totalitarian values, which if they take hold are antithetical to Christian values. A core teaching is to use others to do your dirty work.

We may revert to Viking values in response. No more Christian values as a personal moderator.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 13, 2023 11:21 AM (SJsWC)

125 Canadian Bacon comes from Canadia. It all makes sense now.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, thanks KJP! at February 13, 2023 11:21 AM (PiwSw)

126 Killing Me Softly was played for my first slow dance in the 7th grade. I felt funny down there.

Feeling funny down there can be a sign that you're actually a woman. Let's get the dick saw running.

Posted by: Washington University Medical Center at February 13, 2023 11:21 AM (ZGrMX)

127 102 The notion of the Dark Ages is kind of odd. The Western Roman empire fell, in large measure, because the German warlords weren't any worse then the Roman leaders.

Was watching a show on excavations in Pompeii the other day and the differences between Roman construction and later Dark Age construction is pretty stark. It really was quite a regression in technology and quality of life.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 13, 2023 11:21 AM (UuD2k)

128 > Really, we're just arguing over Dressings.

Pro tip: you don't want to order the Elagabalus dressing unless you're Don Lemon.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 13, 2023 11:21 AM (bW8dp)

129 Lowest cost per pound and lowest cost per square inch of sheet metal slabs.
Posted by: Count de Monet at February 13, 2023 11:19 AM (4I/2K)
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There is no greater pound-for-pound value than a well-kept Lincoln Town Car.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 13, 2023 11:21 AM (t0OGg)

130 Oh and don't forget to celebrate National Bitterness Day, February 15th, this Wednesday.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at February 13, 2023 11:21 AM (lEVn+)

131 We're the fringe. There's no silent majority that can be roused from its slumber.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at February 13, 2023 11:09 AM (KFhLj)

This.

There is no peaceful way out. Certainly not by 'voting.' It would be a blessing if AoS decided to accept the truth and we wouldn't have to fight through endless political threads come 2024.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 13, 2023 11:22 AM (AW0uW)

132 The answer, in the case of today’s progressivism as well as various ideological manias of the past, is a combination of cowardice, careerism, and cash.

Hubris and power. QED.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 13, 2023 11:22 AM (eOEVl)

133 126 Killing Me Softly was played for my first slow dance in the 7th grade. I felt funny down there.

Feeling funny down there can be a sign that you're actually a woman. Let's get the dick saw running.
Posted by: Washington University Medical Center at February 13, 2023 11:21 AM (ZGrMX)

========

"Funny feelings are indicative that you are in the wrong body. We agree, and we're happy that you have come to us for a second opinion."
-Vanderbilt Medical

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some Best Pictures at February 13, 2023 11:22 AM (LvTSG)

134 Let's just go full Viking. Heh. Before the Muppets got woke, one of their funniest skits was the Muppets as Vikings, singing the Village People In the Navy. And then it evolves to them putting a hit on a Britain coastal town, with churches burning, houses burning, monks running for their lives, and Viking Muppets hauling off loot.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at February 13, 2023 11:17 AM (lz5hY)

Now they have Elmo promoting COVID jabs for kids. Evil.

Posted by: polynikes at February 13, 2023 11:22 AM (qnsfO)

135 Okay, of those three I choose -

Muslimland USA.

It's got a recognizable morality, and isn't opposed to energy, food, life, children as general propositions.

Yes, we would live in a degraded state due to that morality, but progress for the bulk of us would happen to - slowly and ineffectively between idiotic jihads.

China is just an orange with a bright, yummy-looking rind of prosperity and a rotten pus filled center where the vast majority of people live.
Wokeness hates life, progress, energy, food, children, promote perversion, death, zero freedom, and Our Bettrers as Our Leaders forever...pass.

All that said i'd like a tyranny similar to 1980s Singapore. It could still be recognizably the US while getting strict as hell with crime and civil unrest. The nation could prosper as there would be order and a recognizable morality.

That being said, I'd prefer a return to the USA of say 70s-80sbu-u-u-u-ut, that's never gonna happen.

If I gotta have tyranny, which it appears I gotta cuz of the Progtards, then I prefer one that approaches normal American life.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 13, 2023 11:22 AM (KLPy8)

136 Pro tip: you don't want to order the Elagabalus dressing unless you're Don Lemon.

Don't forget the chestnuts...

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 13, 2023 11:22 AM (8V7g+)

137 I prefer the ArmaLite solution.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 13, 2023 11:22 AM (D25PY)

138 122 My Uncle had an early 60s Imperial. Real land yacht. Looked like something any Banana Republic Jefe would be proud to use as his limo.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at February 13, 2023 11:22 AM (lz5hY)

139 Morning.
=======================
"So far, hundreds of churches have signed up to respond to people who fill out connect forms on HeGetsUs.com. Scott Beck, CEO of Gloo, which is running that digital infrastructure, said he expects many more churches will join when the campaign launches nationally. There is no theological criteria or statement of faith that churches must adhere to in order to take part."

https://tinyurl.com/yyvppgq2

The chances are good that this is purposely leading people AWAY from Christ / Heaven.
Posted by: Costner wants to work 50 days a year, not 65. Keep giving them your money. at February 13, 2023 11:13 AM (EdaAK)

Conservative activists should a tart filling out forms and sending them in. Just make shit up. Embarrass the hell out of them when it turns out that most of their membership is fake.

Posted by: Robert at February 13, 2023 11:23 AM (N4QQ2)

140 "Stop the woke insanity"

To my reckoning that's easier said that done. Those screaming, emotionally incontinent psychopaths you see on TikTok or Youtube aren't that way because they have some civil disagreement with your political views. These people are unhinged, and as committed to their warped world views as anyone in history. They are unwilling to compromise so the only option will be the use of force to separate them from society in a prison or institution, or kill them. I don't see the will for either solution, and I don't see them giving up. They simply can't, for all the same emotionally broken reasons that drive them to the hatred and resentment of wokeness in the first place.

Posted by: Tom at February 13, 2023 11:23 AM (xUK01)

141 I got Smash a new Orchid. (Pfalmananamananan?) Her last one refuses to flower and is pissing her off.
Posted by: BifBewalski at February 13, 2023 11:15 AM (3CCua)

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I follow this guy on the Tube of You and his techniques really work. I highly recommend. It's in Vietnamese but if you turn on closed captioning and have it set to English it will translate for you. But it is all super simple things that you can do with regular household stuff and they really do work to get orchids to bloom.

https://youtube.com/@MeovatcuocsongLNV

Posted by: Just Lily at February 13, 2023 11:23 AM (gxRow)

142 125 Canadian Bacon comes from Canadia. It all makes sense now.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, thanks KJP! at February 13, 2023 11:21 AM (PiwSw)

Honkers for Canada support this message

Posted by: 7man at February 13, 2023 11:24 AM (qwO6y)

143 Oh and don't forget to celebrate National Bitterness Day, February 15th, this Wednesday.

That's every day for me.

At least, come Wednesday, I'll be out for a week and won't be depressing the rest of you. It would be nice to come back in a better mood.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 13, 2023 11:24 AM (AW0uW)

144 In America, too, our marketing model has usually been entry/base model (of whatever), mid-level with more features, and the top-of-the-line. Aside from China's interest, they need Buick slotted in between Chevy and Cadillac.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 13, 2023 11:16 AM (J2vNu)

Yes - that WAS GMs strategy. A tiered set of brands that took you up the ladder. Ford had a more limited tier with Ford-Mercury-Lincoln.

In the 70s they moved to platform engineering and ended up with the same car in every showroom (Cadillac Cimmaron anyone?) and the dealers all wanted in on the entire marketplace and the branding got ruined.

Buick's place in the US market is middling - sales are somewhat more than Volvo, somewhat less than Dodge.

Posted by: blaster at February 13, 2023 11:24 AM (pwExq)

145 I told you only Rivers of Blood will solve this.
Posted by: Puddihead at February 13, 2023 11:19 AM (ifUkZ)

Mister, we could use a man like Vigo (also known as Prince Vigo Von Homburg Deutschendorf, Scourge of Carpathia, Sorrow of Moldavia, Vigo the Carpathian, Vigo the Cruel, Vigo the Torturer, Vigo the Despised, Vigo the Unholy) again.

On a mountain of skulls, in the castle of pain, I sat on a throne of blood! What was will be! What is will be no more! Now is the season of Evil!

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 13, 2023 11:24 AM (4I/2K)

146 97- article in today's Times advocating for delegitimizing the stigma associated with "chemsex" (which is meth-fueled gay orgies). Gee, remember when love was love, and the Modern Family guys were just a bunch of delightful and devoted professional fruits who just want to do their taxes together, adopt and raise precocious Asian babies, and visit each other in the hospital as they lie dying? Certainly not a bunch of hedonistic, avante-garde, anything goes queers looking to stick their dicks in the first hot hole they cand find?

Posted by: Farmer Bob at February 13, 2023 11:24 AM (trVDr)

147 We showed you the way.

Stay for the tyranny?

Posted by: The Pilgrims at February 13, 2023 11:24 AM (dheQy)

148 So it looks like they are gonna be charging Trump in GA with election interference....

Posted by: It's me donna at February 13, 2023 11:24 AM (bs+z0)

149 The first time ever I heard that song was in the Eastwood movie Play Misty For Me.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Not a Real Simulation at February 13, 2023 11:25 AM (FVME7)

150 I'd take the woke as long as I could keep my guns. I would never submit to Sharia. Never.
Besides, Muslims do not know how to run a country. Please note that the Afghani rebels now that they are in power are complaining about actually having to work. That is also a problem with the Woke. Once they get what they want, they find out that what they want makes life unliveable so things begin t o revert back. You can see it happening with tranny detransitioning and woke school boards being outed.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 13, 2023 11:25 AM (Y+l9t)

151 I have to say it's shocking to learn so many here would be willing to live under sharia law

Posted by: DB at February 13, 2023 11:25 AM (geLO8)

152 Does Sharia include 'honor killing?' And if yes, is this specifically restricted to family members, or society as a whole?

Posted by: Fool Otto at February 13, 2023 11:25 AM (DB16e)

153 138 122 My Uncle had an early 60s Imperial. Real land yacht. Looked like something any Banana Republic Jefe would be proud to use as his limo.
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They were more expensive than a Rolls Royce in those days. Had a college room mate whose family owned a Chrysler dealership. They collected Imperials as a hobby.

Posted by: Puddihead at February 13, 2023 11:25 AM (ifUkZ)

154 120 >>A Caesar (as in emperor) like Julius or Augustus, or Vespasian and Titus, or Trajan or Hadrian, yes. One like Caligula, Nero, or Domitian, no.

Really, we're just arguing over Dressings.
Posted by: garrett at February 13, 2023 11:20 AM (9qmLq)

Dude! That's totally what I told Mr. Ryan in history class!

Posted by: Bill S. Preston, Esq. at February 13, 2023 11:25 AM (BTgKJ)

155 My Uncle had an early 60s Imperial. Real land yacht. Looked like something any Banana Republic Jefe would be proud to use as his limo.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at February 13, 2023 11:22 AM

We had a 1960 Chrysler Imperial. My brother slammed the door on my hand and the door closed completely. That hurt.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at February 13, 2023 11:26 AM (uNylN)

156 There is no peaceful way out. Certainly not by 'voting.' It would be a blessing if AoS decided to accept the truth and we wouldn't have to fight through endless political threads come 2024.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 13, 2023 11:22 AM (AW0uW)

With all due respect, I choose not to join your admitted fatalism personality. I do understand though why people may feel that way.

Posted by: polynikes at February 13, 2023 11:26 AM (qnsfO)

157 He Get Us is Christianity from an alternate universe where Mary Cloggenstein replaced Paul.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at February 13, 2023 11:26 AM (KFhLj)

158 Lind breaks the woke agenda down into three utopian endeavors: the Green Project; the Quota Project; and the Androgyny Project.

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Thanks for that link, Buck -- will read.

We've been overwhelmed for so long and I'm sure we could all think of additional Projects in their agenda. First that comes to mind is the Censorship Project.

Posted by: ShainS -- Slaves no longer require coercion because they love their servitude at February 13, 2023 11:26 AM (i+55I)

159 143 Oh and don't forget to celebrate National Bitterness Day, February 15th, this Wednesday.

That's every day for me.

At least, come Wednesday, I'll be out for a week and won't be depressing the rest of you. It would be nice to come back in a better mood.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 13, 2023 11:24 AM (AW0uW)

Mark your calendars gentlemen. March 15 is Steak and a BJ day.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at February 13, 2023 11:26 AM (N39Ws)

160 I have to say it's shocking to learn so many here would be willing to live under sharia law
Posted by: DB at February 13, 2023 11:25 AM (geLO

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"I told you so" is a hell of a drug.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at February 13, 2023 11:26 AM (2YtOq)

161 Mister, we could use a man like Vigo (also known as Prince Vigo Von Homburg Deutschendorf, Scourge of Carpathia, Sorrow of Moldavia, Vigo the Carpathian, Vigo the Cruel, Vigo the Torturer, Vigo the Despised, Vigo the Unholy) again.

Vlad. Vlad the Impaler.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 13, 2023 11:26 AM (SbJgO)

162 So it looks like they are gonna be charging Trump in GA with election interference....

Posted by: It's me donna at February 13, 2023 11:24 AM

If they hold the trial in Atlanta he will be found guilty and executed.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at February 13, 2023 11:26 AM (uNylN)

163 Buick's place in the US market is middling - sales are somewhat more than Volvo, somewhat less than Dodge.

They're selling made-in-China Buicks in the US now. Apparently they're still better than UAW quality, which is kind of embarrassing.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 13, 2023 11:26 AM (ZGrMX)

164 Buck of here good CJN Speaks this week

Posted by: Skip at February 13, 2023 11:27 AM (ImatJ)

165 Really, we're just arguing over Dressings.
Posted by: garrett at February 13, 2023 11:20 AM (9qmLq)

Ranch rules supreme.

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 13, 2023 11:27 AM (4I/2K)

166 150 Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 13, 2023 11:25 AM (Y+l9t)

Cosnidering the unstated goal of "running a country" these days is the murder of the weak in a population, the restriction of their diets and energy choices I will take "dysfunctional is the best we can hope for" for a 1000 alex....

Posted by: sven at February 13, 2023 11:27 AM (Lzpvj)

167 154 120 >>A Caesar (as in emperor) like Julius or Augustus, or Vespasian and Titus, or Trajan or Hadrian, yes. One like Caligula, Nero, or Domitian, no.

Really, we're just arguing over Dressings.
Posted by: garrett at February 13, 2023 11:20 AM (9qmLq)

Dude! That's totally what I told Mr. Ryan in history class!
Posted by: Bill S. Preston, Esq. at February 13, 2023 11:25 AM (BTgKJ)

And I gave him an A.

Posted by: Mr. Ryan at February 13, 2023 11:27 AM (qwO6y)

168 Americans told to leave Russia by our State Department. While I understand their warning about not becoming a target for criminal charges, such actions by any government is usually a prelude to the outbreak of hostilities. We are marching toward WWIII and the people appear to have no say

Posted by: Smell the Glove at February 13, 2023 11:27 AM (ss7/4)

169
If they hold the trial in Atlanta he will be found guilty and executed.

Nah, they'll Epstein him

Posted by: 18-1 at February 13, 2023 11:27 AM (lc5cP)

170 My Uncle had an early 60s Imperial. Real land yacht. Looked like something any Banana Republic Jefe would be proud to use as his limo.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at February 13, 2023

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If you mean the slab-sided one that was clearly inspired by the Lincoln Continental of '61-'65, then yes, it did look like a generalissimo's car. The U.N.C.L.E. series used Chrysler cars in 3 of its 4 seasons, and they often had Thrush bigwigs being driven in Imperials. Solo and Illya drove a Dodge Charger until the special Piranha car came along.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 13, 2023 11:27 AM (J2vNu)

171 >Ranch rules supreme.
Posted by: Count de Monet at February 13, 2023 11:27 AM

Orange French.

Posted by: Fool Otto at February 13, 2023 11:27 AM (DB16e)

172 Fun fact. Hawaiian pizza was invented in Canadia. I guess geography wasn't their strong suit.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Not a Real Simulation at February 13, 2023 11:27 AM (FVME7)

173 Watched a based Asian school a bunch of woke shitbagger lefties including a 35 year old purple haired karen who dressed like she was still in junior high.

He talked about having a nuclear family, working hard and not being a criminal were keys to success.

The wokies, after they got over their disgust and shock called that "white adjacency"

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at February 13, 2023 11:28 AM (VTu1l)

174 My Uncle had an early 60s Imperial. Real land yacht. Looked like something any Banana Republic Jefe would be proud to use as his limo.

My Dad was very tight with a nickel, and bought cheap Dodge Darts and AMC Pacers. When he was stationed in Mexico City, he bought a 1973 Ford LTD for safety. We thought it constituted unimaginable luxury.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 13, 2023 11:28 AM (eOEVl)

175 If there is any non-violent means to return to normal, the only thing that I think the Right hasn’t tried much is lawfare. And when it is tried the Right invariably chooses hostile venues to press its case.

I will say that the judicial system is a stacked deck so it is hard to get a fair hearing.

IOW, DOOM.

I didn’t see a “post-apocalyptic hellscape” as a choice but that would be my prediction.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at February 13, 2023 11:28 AM (cMXNt)

176 ... In the 70s they moved to platform engineering and ended up with the same car in every showroom (Cadillac Cimmaron anyone?) and the dealers all wanted in on the entire marketplace and the branding got ruined. ...
Posted by: blaster at February 13, 2023 11:24 AM (pwExq)
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Apparently when the new boss took over Cadillac in the late 80s or early 90s (I forget which), he had a large marketing glamour shot of the Cimmaron hanging in his office, which a brass plaque under it reading, "Lest we forget."

The "Cadalier" was a death blow for the brand. It took a long time to recover. The Catera (The Caddy That Zigs!) - a rebadged Opel - didn't help things, either.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 13, 2023 11:28 AM (t0OGg)

177 He Gets Us except for that Abortion thingy.

Posted by: polynikes at February 13, 2023 11:28 AM (qnsfO)

178 > My brother slammed the door on my hand and the door closed completely. That hurt.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS)

I'm surprised you still have the hand.

Back then, car doors weighed more than entire cars do today. Gigantic slabs of thick metal, they were.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 13, 2023 11:28 AM (bW8dp)

179 Biden is the second coming of Pupienus.

Because I will take any chance I can get to make a Pupienus joke.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 13, 2023 11:28 AM (/EuRN)

180 For a fictional treatment of America (at least California) under Sharia, I can recommend The Big Bang, by Roy M. Griffis.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at February 13, 2023 11:28 AM (PiwSw)

181 I have to say it's shocking to learn so many here would be willing to live under sharia law
Posted by: DB

Been living under wokeism for a while now. Won't even consider communism. Doesn't leave much else.

At least with sharia, wokeism gets thrown off rooftops.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 13, 2023 11:29 AM (SbJgO)

182 There is no greater pound-for-pound value than a well-kept Lincoln Town Car.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 13, 2023 11:21 AM (t0OGg)

My father-in-law's dream car. He owns it now- 1977 Lincoln Towncar.

Guzzles the gasoline, but it's a fine vehicle.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at February 13, 2023 11:29 AM (N1tpc)

183 Buick's place in the US market is middling - sales are somewhat more than Volvo, somewhat less than Dodge.

They're selling made-in-China Buicks in the US now. Apparently they're still better than UAW quality, which is kind of embarrassing.
Posted by: Ian S. at February 13, 2023

***
I'd love it if they would bring the China-market Park Avenue sedan over here.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 13, 2023 11:29 AM (J2vNu)

184 CW II Electric Bugaloo is a better option than the 3 you pose.

Posted by: Republic Theatre brought to you by Pfizer! at February 13, 2023 11:29 AM (YTBIQ)

185 151 Posted by: DB at February 13, 2023 11:25 AM (geLO

My wife dresses non-provactively, my son is respectful to his elders, I am honorable in my business dealings.

Pay 20% Jizzya or let the woke try to convince my grandchild she is a male, he is a female, disarm me, force me to live in the cold dark, eat bugs etc etc

Fuck the woke.

God is God.

Posted by: sven at February 13, 2023 11:29 AM (Lzpvj)

186 Yale Professor calls for compulsory euthanasia of the elderly in japan.

Posted by: It's happening at February 13, 2023 11:30 AM (dheQy)

187 Was watching a show on excavations in Pompeii the other day and the differences between Roman construction and later Dark Age construction is pretty stark. It really was quite a regression in technology and quality of life.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 13, 2023 11:21 AM (UuD2k)

Well, when you got a 1000 years of-

Hey I invented a new concrete...
SORCERY! Burn him!

Hey, I found a cure for this..
Sorcery! Burn him!

Hey, there is this new steel...
Sorcery! Burn him!

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 13, 2023 11:30 AM (VwHCD)

188 I follow this guy on the Tube of You and his techniques really work. I highly recommend. It's in Vietnamese but if you turn on closed captioning and have it set to English it will translate for you. But it is all super simple things that you can do with regular household stuff and they really do work to get orchids to bloom.

Have you tried Miss Orchid Girl?

Posted by: Archimedes at February 13, 2023 11:30 AM (eOEVl)

189 Just another reason to abolish the federal government.

Each State can decide how they want to run their State and washington dc can be turned back over to the swamp and the homeless.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 13, 2023 11:30 AM (b/HKy)

190 The rulers are tired of pretending to care what the people think and want.
The people are tired of pretending to be governed and the responsibility of being citizens and beg desperately to be ruled.

Monarchy is what's coming.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at February 13, 2023 11:30 AM (iozcd)

191 I had a red 1977 Delta 88 in college. My frat brothers called it the Big Red Barge .

Posted by: polynikes at February 13, 2023 11:31 AM (qnsfO)

192 Purple hairs are easier to track in low light situations.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 13, 2023 11:31 AM (D25PY)

193 We are marching toward WWIII

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More strutting toward WWIII.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Not a Real Simulation at February 13, 2023 11:31 AM (FVME7)

194 I have to say it's shocking to learn so many here would be willing to live under sharia law

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I blame Karens and Simp Soys for driving us to that point.

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at February 13, 2023 11:31 AM (VTu1l)

195 Have you tried Miss Orchid Girl?
Posted by: Archimedes at February 13, 2023

***
Have you noticed how much they look like orchids? Lovely.

Posted by: Lazarus Long at February 13, 2023 11:31 AM (J2vNu)

196 Hey I invented a new concrete...
SORCERY! Burn him!

Hey, I found a cure for this..
Sorcery! Burn him!

Hey, there is this new steel...
Sorcery! Burn him!
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 13, 2023 11:30 AM (VwHCD)
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Wait, are you talking about post Roman Empire or current America?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at February 13, 2023 11:32 AM (2YtOq)

197 You left out my tyranny of choice- I'd rather live under the cartels than any of the options you've listed. At least they still believe in only two genders.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 13, 2023 11:32 AM (trdmm)

198 I got me a Chrysler that seats about 20
So hurry up and bring your jukebox money

Mmm.... Cindy squirming in that thin top with no barzeer... Mmmm.....

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 13, 2023 11:32 AM (bW8dp)

199 When the left has successfully killed off western civilization, which of the most likely alternatives would you prefer if you’re still around?

- American / European style wokeness
- Chinese style digital surveillance state
- Muslim sharia

China culture, while lacking in freedom and liberty, does ban things like TikTok freakshow madness. TikTok is used as a very useful educational tool in China and all the filth in Western nations on TikTok is banned in China. I think they also ban it for children or limit its use to a certain amount of time during the day.

China also I think banned wokeness and feminization of men. China also has managed to develop a lot of amazing technology from their high speed rail system to the Three Gorges Dam.

So of the three options, I think China's culture is the least evil. Sharia would be awful/hell for women and gay community. And we already know the horrors of American/European wokeness culture. China's culture is the least bad of the 3 options.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at February 13, 2023 11:32 AM (Do5/p)

200 Chryslers have the biggest back seats. Let's get comfortable.

Posted by: The chick from Last American Virgin at February 13, 2023 11:32 AM (4I/2K)

201 If there is any non-violent means to return to normal, the only thing that I think the Right hasn’t tried much is lawfare. And when it is tried the Right invariably chooses hostile venues to press its case.

This is in part an abject failure on the part of conservative jurists.

A fair percentage of the leftwing judges will rule for *anything* the left wants. Even among the actual conservative judges most are gutless. The best evidence of this, of course, is the SC case on the Steal 2020 where most of the nominal conservatives ruled election fraud was fine if approved by a state.

Posted by: 18-1 at February 13, 2023 11:32 AM (lc5cP)

202
*beep---beep--beep--BBBBBBBEEEEEEEEEEEPPPPPPPP*

What does that mean?

yeah

Posted by: John Fetterman at February 13, 2023 11:33 AM (vwCZJ)

203 Ironically, the vikings evolved into Christians and spread Christianity where ever they went, they kicked Muslims out of many places (like Sicily).

Posted by: gourmand du jour at February 13, 2023 11:33 AM (jTmQV)

204 Legal Insurrection

California and Mississippi have seen an uptick in newborns being born with syphilis.

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 13, 2023 11:33 AM (8V7g+)

205 Reading Karl Marx and Communists ( don't have exact title, ) anyway is going through 1930 - 40s and the churches being infiltration by the Soviets. But now to my opinion the Marxists are a still working on destroying Western civilization but seems maybe without a R
rutter having no heads to make decisions. Just following Marxism blindly

Posted by: Skip at February 13, 2023 11:33 AM (ImatJ)

206 It looks like there are several folks who seem to think living under Sharia law is preferable to the technocratic or woke tyrannies.

I never, ever thought I'd say this, but it's hard to argue against that viewpoint. Even though Sharia law is a brutal code of justice that is extremely harsh towards non-Muslims, it does recognize a moral code, unlike the freaks on the Left who have NO moral code whatsoever.

Would it be possible to live under Sharia law as a "Muslim-in-name-only?" Well, we may eventually find out...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at February 13, 2023 11:34 AM (BpYfr)

207 I had a red 1977 Delta 88 in college. My frat brothers called it the Big Red Barge .
Posted by: polynikes at February 13, 2023

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From '81 to '85 I drove a '65 Mercury Park Lane sedan, white over dark red leather, with the Breezeway option -- a power rear window that went down behind the back seat. It had the triangular vent windows, too. If you opened all the windows and drove on a cloudy day, you almost could get by without the A/C.

Posted by: Lazarus Long at February 13, 2023 11:34 AM (J2vNu)

208 > China also I think banned wokeness and feminization of men.

The story has it that Mayor Pete was shortlisted for Ambassador to China, but refused the gig because they wouldn't recognize his husband.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 13, 2023 11:34 AM (bW8dp)

209 Virtue signaling has led to this. "Oh, those poor moslems, they're so poor, let's celebrate their holidays!" "Oh, those poor gays, always being persecuted, let's devote a whole month to cheering them!"

What the virtue-signalers don't realize is that by diluting civilization, you end it. And what comes next isn't pretty.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 13, 2023 11:34 AM (p+1gI)

210 150 I'd take the woke as long as I could keep my guns. I would never submit to Sharia. Never.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 13, 2023 11:25 AM (Y+l9t)

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Your statement is why I believe gun owners will never “save the Republic”.

They’ll literally allow the government to take their kids and chop off their child’s genitalia but as long as they get to keep their guns, they’ll live with it.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at February 13, 2023 11:34 AM (cMXNt)

211 My wife dresses non-provactively, my son is respectful to his elders, I am honorable in my business dealings.

Pay 20% Jizzya or let the woke try to convince my grandchild she is a male, he is a female, disarm me, force me to live in the cold dark, eat bugs etc etc

Fuck the woke.

God is God.
Posted by: sven

Even though the thought of what you would rather live under is mental masturbation.

Because before I would accept those three, I'll die fighting. Actual booger hooking the bang switch kind.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 13, 2023 11:34 AM (SbJgO)

212 I have to say it's shocking to learn so many here would be willing to live under sharia law
Posted by: DB at February 13, 2023 11:25 AM (geLO

Eh, it's a limited choice of 3, and given how they're currently constructed. Sharia offers a shot for the most people to live a some what "normal" life".

Wokeville? with it's child-molesting and rape, and child mutilation, and no energy and no food besides bugs, and no worship(look how the Biden administration's going after the Rosary(?????) WTF?, back to the middle ages with organized death for the "wrong" people. No thanks.

Chinaville? Omni-Survellance from birth to death. Crushing poverty unless you're one of the Party elect. Pass.

Again I don't choose any, but that's not the choice we were given.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 13, 2023 11:34 AM (KLPy8)

213 179 Don’t forget his co-emperor Balbinus.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 13, 2023 11:34 AM (hTf8I)

214 *waves to Sven*

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 13, 2023 11:34 AM (8V7g+)

215 >Posted by: sven at February 13, 2023 11:29 AM (Lzpvj)

I can't tell whether you agree with my statement or not

Posted by: DB at February 13, 2023 11:35 AM (geLO8)

216 206 Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at February 13, 2023 11:34 AM (BpYfr)

There are Muslims of differing intensity.

I have never seen a mild woketard.

Posted by: sven at February 13, 2023 11:35 AM (Lzpvj)

217 My guess is that 100% of those willing to live under Sharia law are male. No man would ever put up with wearing head to toe covering their bodies even in summer, losing the ability to have an orgasm at birth, being held ignorant and kept from traveling wherever they want.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 13, 2023 11:35 AM (Y+l9t)

218 208 > China also I think banned wokeness and feminization of men.

The story has it that Mayor Pete was shortlisted for Ambassador to China, but refused the gig because they wouldn't recognize his husband.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 13, 2023 11:34 AM (bW8dp)

That's not how the story goes. That's not how the story goes at all.

Posted by: Puccini at February 13, 2023 11:35 AM (/EuRN)

219 4. War.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at February 13, 2023 11:35 AM (JbZEe)

220 Dateline 2167

As mankind begins its slow emergence from the dystopian nightmare of the late 21st and early 22nd centuries, explorers have unearthed evidence of the Irish people once again preserving the lost fragments of a great civilization that once promised peace and prosperity to all. A dusty tome is picked from the rubble in thee dark reaches of an old cave, and as a gloved hand brushes away decades of accumulated dust the title is barely legible:

Muldoon's Library of Limericks

Posted by: Muldoon at February 13, 2023 11:35 AM (ykeLU)

221 TJM might enjoy this one. Heston and Welles, separately discuss Touch of Evil.

https://tinyurl.com/mwzfdxmk

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 13, 2023 11:35 AM (zZu0s)

222 High school bud's Grandmother had a DeSoto, about a 56 or 57 and Granny would let him use it, just to keep it running right because she didn't drive much. Baby had an early Hemi and would fly once you got that tonnage rolling.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at February 13, 2023 11:35 AM (lz5hY)

223 A lot of you guys seem to have forgotten that Roe v Wade was overturned. Something I'd wager 99% of commenters thought would never ever happen.

Posted by: polynikes at February 13, 2023 11:36 AM (qnsfO)

224 Apparently Philadelphia Eagles fans rioted last night.

Professional sports brings out the worst in people.

If people can be forced to get vaccinated before public events then I think people should be forced to take sedatives prior to big games like the Superbowel.

Posted by: Robert at February 13, 2023 11:36 AM (N4QQ2)

225 Have you tried Miss Orchid Girl?
Posted by: Archimedes at February 13, 2023 11:30 AM (eOEVl)

_____

No. But I guess I will be watching orchid videos all day to compare techniques.

See you all some time next week.
😂

Posted by: Just Lily at February 13, 2023 11:36 AM (gxRow)

226 I have to say it's shocking to learn so many here would be willing to live under sharia law
Posted by: DB at February 13, 2023 11:25 AM (geLO

Since we are never going back to a constitutional republic, no matter how much people want to pretend otherwise, I want the governance that will result in the most amount of pain and death for the perverts, traitors and scum that have brought us to this irreversible point.

To paraphrase Patrick Henry, if that's 'shocking,' then make the most of it.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 13, 2023 11:36 AM (AW0uW)

227 “ Sharia would be awful/hell for women and gay community. “

And a few million Christians who refuse to surrender. Of course that is our fate in any of the ism tyrannies.

Posted by: 7man at February 13, 2023 11:36 AM (qwO6y)

228 I never, ever thought I'd say this, but it's hard to argue against that viewpoint. Even though Sharia law is a brutal code of justice that is extremely harsh towards non-Muslims, it does recognize a moral code

************

I think it's the part where it ensures women never gain any kind of power thats the most enticing.

Every problem we have today can be laid at the feet of woke women who worship their own vaginas, virtue signal and think nothing of murdering unborn babies so it doesn't inconvenience their hedonistic lifestyles.

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at February 13, 2023 11:36 AM (VTu1l)

229 We've had Christian values, which tend to peace and love and tolerance.

Probably splitting of hairs, but I think those are the fruits of Christian culture.

To me the core of the Christian ethic is the acknowledgement that even the most vile among us is the fantastic creation of the Lord.

Thus, it is a crime against the Almighty to offer anything less than the grace afforded me to a fellow person. The staying of my hand when it wishes to strike, is deference to the wise and ruling hand of the Creator, who surely knows me to be a filthy, impure sinner who is deserving of no such mercy by any objective measure.

When I practice mercy and humility, I acknowledge His unfathomable grace towards me.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February 13, 2023 11:36 AM (Zqeqr)

230 224 Apparently Philadelphia Eagles fans rioted last night.

They would have done it even if they had won

Posted by: It's me donna at February 13, 2023 11:36 AM (bs+z0)

231 221 TJM might enjoy this one. Heston and Welles, separately discuss Touch of Evil.

https://tinyurl.com/mwzfdxmk
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 13, 2023 11:35 AM (zZu0s)

=======

I immediately thought John Huston...what does John Huston have to do with Touch of Evil?

Nothing! Charlton Heston, dummy.

Thanks!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some Best Pictures at February 13, 2023 11:36 AM (LvTSG)

232 I have no idea anymore what to think about the great balloon scare. Like covid, there is a nugget of truth under a mountain of lies. In this case, the nugget is somebody in Montana saw a high altitude balloon and it was shot down over the Atlantic. Everything else is at best suspect or blatant BS.

This is what happens when everything coming from the govt/MSM is a lies or propaganda or part of an op.

Posted by: Ripley at February 13, 2023 11:36 AM (cUYo/)

233 To paraphrase Patrick Henry, if that's 'shocking,' then make the most of it.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 13, 2023 11:36 AM (AW0uW)

Give me liberty, or give them death.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 13, 2023 11:37 AM (/EuRN)

234 > Apparently Philadelphia Eagles fans rioted last night.

Like I said last night, Philly is the kind of place where the fans are gonna riot if their team wins, and also riot if their team loses. It's just what they do.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 13, 2023 11:37 AM (bW8dp)

235 Seems the woke are pushing hard the wokeism in Japan and Hungary. Unlike places like Finland it seems the Hungarians and Japanese are giving the woke a fight.

Posted by: Floridachick at February 13, 2023 11:37 AM (5Qj+5)

236 "Sharia would be awful/hell for women and gay community."

And who seems most determined to destroy Western Civilization? Perhaps that's why many seem least concerned about Sharia. As long as those groups are asking for the destruction of Western Civilization, perhaps they deserve to get it good and hard.

Posted by: Wally at February 13, 2023 11:37 AM (FJYfm)

237 Well that was some reading. Happy Galentine’s Day, y’all. I guess.

Posted by: Piper at February 13, 2023 11:37 AM (ZdaMQ)

238 Would it be possible to live under Sharia law as a "Muslim-in-name-only?" Well, we may eventually find out...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at February 13, 2023 11:34 AM (BpYfr)

They will pry the sausage and bacon and Pork BBQ from my cold dead hands!!

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at February 13, 2023 11:37 AM (PiwSw)

239 Hey I invented a new concrete...
SORCERY! Burn him!

Hey, I found a cure for this..
Sorcery! Burn him!

Hey, there is this new steel...
Sorcery! Burn him!
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 13, 2023 11:30 AM (VwHCD)
---------------

Wait, are you talking about post Roman Empire or current America?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at February 13, 2023 11:32 AM (2YtOq)

Concrete hasn't really changed since the Romans invented it. :B

Posted by: Robert at February 13, 2023 11:38 AM (N4QQ2)

240 Eh, it's a limited choice of 3, and given how they're currently constructed. Sharia offers a shot for the most people to live a some what "normal" life".

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Yeah, normal if you're male. Women are simply chattal and kept like animals to be used at the whim of the master.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 13, 2023 11:38 AM (Y+l9t)

241 'We will not enable escalation of conflict that may lead to WW3': Elon Musk slaps down ex-NASA astronaut Scott Kelly after he pleaded with him to ramp up Starlink over Ukraine
https://mol.im/a/11744069

Posted by: Ciampino - ostriches with heads in the sand/leftists at February 13, 2023 11:38 AM (qfLjt)

242 They’ll literally allow the government to take their kids and chop off their child’s genitalia but as long as they get to keep their guns, they’ll live with it.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at February 13, 2023 11:34 AM (cMXNt)

Would you?

Posted by: polynikes at February 13, 2023 11:38 AM (qnsfO)

243 236 There are a good number of women on the conservative side. Are we just collateral damage?

Posted by: Piper at February 13, 2023 11:38 AM (ZdaMQ)

244 I told you only Rivers of Blood will solve this.
Posted by: Puddihead

“I am quite certain that the crimes of this guilty land will never be purged away, but with blood. I had as I now think, vainly, flattered myself that without very much bloodshed, it might be done.”

- John Brown before the gallows

John Brown proved prophetic.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Not a Real Simulation at February 13, 2023 11:39 AM (FVME7)

245 241 'We will not enable escalation of conflict that may lead to WW3': Elon Musk slaps down ex-NASA astronaut Scott Kelly after he pleaded with him to ramp up Starlink over Ukraine
https://mol.im/a/11744069
Posted by: Ciampino - ostriches with heads in the sand/leftists at February 13, 2023 11:38 AM (qfLjt)

I'm liking Musk more everyday

Posted by: It's me donna at February 13, 2023 11:39 AM (bs+z0)

246 217 My guess is that 100% of those willing to live under Sharia law are male. No man would ever put up with wearing head to toe covering their bodies even in summer, losing the ability to have an orgasm at birth, being held ignorant and kept from traveling wherever they want.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 13, 2023 11:35 AM (Y+l9t)

Very likely. I have sharia as BY FAR the worst...

No one said "live in Qatar's type of world" - they said live under sharia law, and that is horrific. If you think you aren't being enslaved, bankrupted, continually abused, dehumanized as a woman, and eventually tossed off the building with your whole family when you won't convert after they've tossed all the woke already (so your turn is just a few months down the line), I don't know what to tell you...

Posted by: Nova Local at February 13, 2023 11:39 AM (exHjb)

247 214 Posted by: Anna Puma at February 13, 2023 11:34 AM (8V7g+)

Ma'am.

215 Posted by: DB at February 13, 2023 11:35 AM (geLO

I have been saying here since 9/11 that the end choice for Xians would be to defeat radical Islam or eventually see western civ crushed.

I have said since 2008 when Urkle decided to ally the US with the worst of the Muslim world versus maintaining our alliance with the Sunnis that the Sunnis are preferable.

The Christian west is too weak to make its case against people within its own sphere there is no way they will stop the inspired people from another.

The woke say the state (We since they intend to never lose power mind you) is God.

Islam for better or worse acknowledged that the Abrahamic God is God.

A flawed morality is preferable to amorality.

God is God.

Posted by: sven at February 13, 2023 11:39 AM (Lzpvj)

248 Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 13, 2023 11:21 AM (t0OGg)

Grandpa was an auto mechanic and all he drove were Lincoln Towncars because he said he didn't want to have to work on his personal car.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at February 13, 2023 11:39 AM (nC+QA)

249 Anything is better than the Woke Regime. Even an acutely worse regime is psychologically abd spiritually preferable. Considering all our info about these acutely worse regimes comes through the Woke media, I am agnostic.

The neolib mantra is "sorry, there's really no acceptable alternative". I suspect every alternative is better.

Posted by: Thesokorus at February 13, 2023 11:39 AM (1ais2)

250 Iranians are getting tired of living under Sharia, it isn't no fkin picnic

Posted by: Skip at February 13, 2023 11:40 AM (ImatJ)

251 Yeah, normal if you're male. Women are simply chattal and kept like animals to be used at the whim of the master.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 13, 2023 11:38 AM (Y+l9t)
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That is an excellent point. Though under the other two systems *EVERYONE* becomes chattel to be kept like animals in cages and used at the whims of their masters.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at February 13, 2023 11:40 AM (BpYfr)

252 My vote is bloody civil war, and pick up the pieces of whatever remains after the smoke clears.

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at February 13, 2023 11:41 AM (hf5YE)

253 Totally off topic, if there is one, but I watched Gutfelds stupor bowl ad and it's pretty funny...

Posted by: It's me donna at February 13, 2023 11:41 AM (bs+z0)

254 They’ll literally allow the government to take their kids and chop off their child’s genitalia but as long as they get to keep their guns, they’ll live with it.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken

I just turned sixty. I've lived a good long life. Just realized a bucket list tick off that I never thought would happen.

Fuck with my grandchildren. Let's find out.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 13, 2023 11:41 AM (SbJgO)

255 161 Vlad. Vlad the Impaler.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 13, 2023 11:26 AM (SbJgO)

You asked for it.

https://youtu.be/_k2TbI0NTCo

Also going with "sharia" as the least worst of the three post-Western Civilization outcomes provided.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at February 13, 2023 11:41 AM (DTX3h)

256 There are a good number of women on the conservative side. Are we just collateral damage?
Posted by: Piper

Although still a tiny minority, we're seeing more conservative blacks as well.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Not a Real Simulation at February 13, 2023 11:41 AM (FVME7)

257 And who seems most determined to destroy Western Civilization? Perhaps that's why many seem least concerned about Sharia. As long as those groups are asking for the destruction of Western Civilization, perhaps they deserve to get it good and hard.

Posted by: Wally at Februar

Let's tear down a prosperous western society and see what happens.

Posted by: It's happening at February 13, 2023 11:41 AM (dheQy)

258 i think the theocracy will have a lesser body count.

Posted by: yoeman at February 13, 2023 11:41 AM (BYNHj)

259 The God of Islam has nothing in common with the God of Christianity.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 13, 2023 11:41 AM (hTf8I)

260 Today is ...

Self-Love Day
National Wingman Day
National Clean Out Your Computer Day
Desperation Day
International Condom Day
International Epilepsy Day
Oatmeal Monday

Posted by: SMOD at February 13, 2023 11:42 AM (RHGPo)

261 There are a good number of women on the conservative side. Are we just collateral damage?

****************

1 based women out of 3 million are not good numbers

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at February 13, 2023 11:42 AM (VTu1l)

262 Someone help me out here. I don’t remember them having a debate in Congress, much less a vote, on a war with Russia. Did I sleep through it?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 13, 2023 11:42 AM (u73oe)

263 The idea that gender is different from sex isn't so much the problem as the insistence that sex itself isn't real. That humans are not sexually binary, male and female. Bringing up frogs and people who have chromosomal issues as some sort of "biological" proof but of course, never ever suggesting anyone test to see if they are a frog or have a chromosomal issue. Or even a hormonal imbalance.

Posted by: Synova at February 13, 2023 11:42 AM (BD/yx)

264 Of the 3:
- American / European style wokeness
- Chinese style digital surveillance state
- Muslim sharia

I think Muslim sharia would be the least affected by a collapse of western civilization. I mean, it's not like they're part of it now and I wonder if they'd even notice.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 13, 2023 11:43 AM (Q4IgG)

265 Great essay, Buck. The choice is clear.
(Judeo-Christian) God.
Allah (PBUH)
No god but the state.

Choose wisely.

Posted by: Roger Ball at February 13, 2023 11:43 AM (C8ve7)

266 33
And pray its not because WWIII is just about to start.

Posted by: blaster at February 13, 2023 11:07 AM (pwExq)
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What if there was a war declared and no one came?

Posted by: Ciampino -- ostriches with heads in the sand/leftists at February 13, 2023 11:43 AM (qfLjt)

267 My guess is that 100% of those willing to live under Sharia law are male. No man would ever put up with wearing head to toe covering their bodies even in summer, losing the ability to have an orgasm at birth, being held ignorant and kept from traveling wherever they want.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 13, 2023 11:35 AM (Y+l9t)

Very likely. I have sharia as BY FAR the worst...

No one said "live in Qatar's type of world" - they said live under sharia law, and that is horrific. If you think you aren't being enslaved, bankrupted, continually abused, dehumanized as a woman, and eventually tossed off the building with your whole family when you won't convert after they've tossed all the woke already (so your turn is just a few months down the line), I don't know what to tell you...
Posted by: Nova Local

See #236. Wally pretty much nails it.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 13, 2023 11:43 AM (SbJgO)

268 259 The God of Islam has nothing in common with the God of Christianity.

.. the God of Christianity is more omnipotent than the God of Islam because the Christian God can be instantiated in multiple persons, but the weaker Islam God is stuck in one form.

Posted by: SMOD at February 13, 2023 11:44 AM (RHGPo)

269 Today in history for 1943.

The United States Marine Corps Women's Reserve was created.

In aviation history, Vought F4U-1 Corsairs flew their first combat mission from Guadalcanal.

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 13, 2023 11:44 AM (8V7g+)

270 To me the Leftists and Muslims are helping each other out to destroy Western civilization, then will have to fight it out between themselves

Posted by: Skip at February 13, 2023 11:44 AM (ImatJ)

271 259 Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 13, 2023 11:41 AM (hTf8I)

That is simply untrue it is a wild distortion of the Judeo Xian doctrines but the moral code is still even in its twisted way still related to the Abrahamic code.

Western civ has been blowing its brains out since it decided that "fairness" was the cornerstone of morality in the 1400 to 1800s.

Fairness is laudable, and it is Godly and Christianity and Judaism both strive for the western understanding of it. We decided to empower people politically that decided that they hated us for empowering them.

We deserve all we get until we decide to stop getting it.

Posted by: sven at February 13, 2023 11:44 AM (Lzpvj)

272 264 Deus Hoc Vult. Just go full Knights Templar.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at February 13, 2023 11:45 AM (lz5hY)

273 Grandpa was an auto mechanic and all he drove were Lincoln Towncars because he said he didn't want to have to work on his personal car.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at February 13, 2023

***
The Towncar, the Ford Crown Victoria (think "police cars" until recently), and the Mercury Grand Marquis were all built on the same platform. Yes, gas swallowers as compared to sippers, but the lower maintenance costs make up for that.

I tested a used '03 Merc GM in the summer of '07, before I bought my Park Avenue. If the transmission in my Mercedes 230 had acted up that day, I'd have bought that GM for sure.

Posted by: Lazarus Long at February 13, 2023 11:45 AM (J2vNu)

274
Every problem we have today can be laid at the feet of woke women who worship their own vaginas, virtue signal and think nothing of murdering unborn babies so it doesn't inconvenience their hedonistic lifestyl

++++
These comments have started to take a bad turn. Blaming all women for the crazy libtards and Karens on the left so that is it is okay to put all women in Burquas is a pretty fascist take.
Much as I hate Woke, I can wear what I want, drive a car, have a master's degree, married who I wanted to
and travel wherever I want.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 13, 2023 11:45 AM (Y+l9t)

275 Look at the plane load of cash Barky sent then Sundowner leaves billions of military equipment to them

Posted by: Skip at February 13, 2023 11:46 AM (ImatJ)

276 Eh, it's a limited choice of 3, and given how they're currently constructed. Sharia offers a shot for the most people to live a some what "normal" life".

+++
Yeah, normal if you're male. Women are simply chattal and kept like animals to be used at the whim of the master.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 13, 2023 11:38 AM (Y+l9t)

So...of those 3 and not some fantasy version of those 3(like Wokeville with guns), which do you prefer and why?

And the choice, remember, is limited to those 3.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 13, 2023 11:46 AM (KLPy8)

277 262 Someone help me out here. I don’t remember them having a debate in Congress, much less a vote, on a war with Russia. Did I sleep through it?

.. they didn't declare war, but the most recent omnibus spending us into a early grave bill did cover appropriations for Ukraine.

Posted by: SMOD at February 13, 2023 11:46 AM (RHGPo)

278 261 so you are saying yes, then? I need to sit back a minute and absorb that.

Posted by: Piper at February 13, 2023 11:47 AM (ZdaMQ)

279 International Epilepsy Day?

Posted by: Seize the Day! at February 13, 2023 11:47 AM (wrJpE)

280 If you spend your time fantasizing about what form of tyranny is most likely to wipe out the people who bother you the most, you should take a hard look at just how into this whole "Western Culture" thing you were in the first place.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at February 13, 2023 11:47 AM (jYCXf)

281 Lawyer says Trump used ‘Classified Evening Summary’ empty folder to block light in bedroom at night

.. because so much of our government should be in an empty folder

Posted by: SMOD at February 13, 2023 11:48 AM (RHGPo)

282 Someone help me out here. I don’t remember them having a debate in Congress, much less a vote, on a war with Russia

.

We don't do those things anymore.

Posted by: I guess I'll tell them at February 13, 2023 11:48 AM (dheQy)

283 243 236 There are a good number of women on the conservative side. Are we just collateral damage?
Posted by: Piper at February 13, 2023 11:38 AM (ZdaMQ)

No one, I think, it talking about this as a realistic option. They are going through the motions of considering the options. Practically, everyone knows what the prescription is. They just do not want to talk about it for various reasons (blog/law related reasons.)

The thing is ALL of the options presented are such a benighted dystopic mess that no one should be willing to accept any of them. However, it is not easy to consider the other thing- even going beyond the considerations of legalities. However, sooner or later you have to face the math of a situation. I HOPE we decide one way, no matter how difficult because the other options are too terrible to contemplate.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 13, 2023 11:48 AM (zZu0s)

284 41 > KJP doesn't know or care what NORAD is and the Peoples Republic of Canada has been renamed "Canadia". Try to keep up.

I've been calling her Kareen JabDull-Fubar.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 13, 2023 11:08 AM (bW8dp)
----
Can we work GIGO in there, something like
Kareen JabGigo-Fubar?

Posted by: Ciampino --- ostriches with heads in the sand/leftists at February 13, 2023 11:48 AM (qfLjt)

285 >> International Epilepsy Day?

Shake-A-Day

Posted by: garrett at February 13, 2023 11:48 AM (9qmLq)

286 These comments have started to take a bad turn. Blaming all women for the crazy libtards and Karens on the left so that is it is okay to put all women in Burquas is a pretty fascist take.

***********************

woke women are too emotive, unstable and solipsistic to be trusted with any kind of power

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at February 13, 2023 11:48 AM (VTu1l)

287 * Rock Music Blares *

I will choose FreeWill.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 13, 2023 11:49 AM (xlag0)

288 International Epilepsy Day?

*********

Celebrate with a Caesar salad

Posted by: Muldoon at February 13, 2023 11:49 AM (ykeLU)

289 274 These comments have started to take a bad turn. Blaming all women for the crazy libtards and Karens on the left so that is it is okay to put all women in Burquas is a pretty fascist take.
Much as I hate Woke, I can wear what I want, drive a car, have a master's degree, married who I wanted to
and travel wherever I want

——

Thank you.

Posted by: Piper at February 13, 2023 11:49 AM (ZdaMQ)

290 So, Star Trek...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some Best Pictures at February 13, 2023 11:49 AM (LvTSG)

291 Like I said last night, Philly is the kind of place where the fans are gonna riot if their team wins, and also riot if their team loses. It's just what they do.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia

A decade or two before the big bang, the citizens of Pompeii rioted over a gladiatorial game. The Emperor forbid them any more games for a decade or so. Ban the Eagles from next season and see if that calms them down.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Not a Real Simulation at February 13, 2023 11:49 AM (FVME7)

292 >>woke women are too emotive, unstable and solipsistic to be trusted with any kind of power

You don't need the 'woke' part of that Statement.

Posted by: garrett at February 13, 2023 11:49 AM (9qmLq)

293 And I disagree that Islam has a moral code. “Kill all those who don’t belong to our religion” is not a moral code. In fact, it’s just what the Wokies believe, too.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 13, 2023 11:50 AM (hTf8I)

294 it is imperative that rational, friends-of-the-working-class leftists dare to stand up against the woke agenda.

I don't know that these people exist.

Posted by: Braenyard at February 13, 2023 11:50 AM (DveAR)

295 Posted by: sven at February 13, 2023 11:44 AM (Lzpvj)

You're comparing with Judaism. And a distortion at that. Islam is completely different than Christianity. Islam was created as a pushback of Christianity.

Posted by: polynikes at February 13, 2023 11:50 AM (qnsfO)

296 These comments have started to take a bad turn. Blaming all women for the crazy libtards and Karens on the left so that is it is okay to put all women in Burquas is a pretty fascist take.
Much as I hate Woke, I can wear what I want, drive a car, have a master's degree, married who I wanted to
and travel wherever I want.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 13, 2023 11:45 AM (Y+l9t)

For now.

Hey, it's a hypothetical with 3 horrible choices.

Posted by: Wally at February 13, 2023 11:50 AM (FJYfm)

297 The chances are good that this is purposely leading people AWAY from Christ / Heaven.

the commercial I saw featured black/white images portraying alleged civil unrest that were clearly staged.

*I used to work in advertising, I can ID this stuff*

Posted by: kallisto at February 13, 2023 11:50 AM (dCxaZ)

298 278 Posted by: Piper at February 13, 2023 11:47 AM (ZdaMQ)

A lot of evil is being done in women's name by evil women.

I notice that good conservative women on campuses do an awful lot of silence when they are the ones who are uniquely able to tell the white lunatics with painted hair and vaginal worship to sit down, shut up and learn.

It is a lot like the late stage awakening by non lunatic minority males and females.

This whole mental exercise is limited to 3 options, my fourth option would be the categories of people being designated "victims who need saving by woke messiahs" get sane and save western civ.

I far prefer that, it requires a lot of effort by a lot of people who look past gender, race, economic class, and micro preferences to save the macro.

I pray on it a lot and I beg God for mercy for this culture a lot.

Posted by: sven at February 13, 2023 11:51 AM (Lzpvj)

299 285 There's an old Saul and Abe joke (JJ probably knows it) that should be told on National Epilepsy Day.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at February 13, 2023 11:51 AM (lz5hY)

300 Yeah, this thread is poised on the brink of turning ugly. Time to go change the batteries inn my smok detector.

Posted by: Muldoon at February 13, 2023 11:51 AM (ykeLU)

301 293 And I disagree that Islam has a moral code. “Kill all those who don’t belong to our religion” is not a moral code. In fact, it’s just what the Wokies believe, too.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 13, 2023 11:50 AM (hTf8I)

Agreed. It is situational morality writ large- which is no morality at all.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 13, 2023 11:52 AM (zZu0s)

302 Even though Sharia law is a brutal code of justice that is extremely harsh towards non-Muslims, it does recognize a moral code, unlike the freaks on the Left who have NO moral code whatsoever.

If one were to look at religion from a sociological perspective instead of a religious one its to enforce a moral code on society and with the monotheistic religions outside directly of political rule.

Islam is a little weak in that later regard, as it has at times mixed political and religious power - Mohammed and his immediate successors as the most obvious example, but the Ottoman Sultan's claimed to be Caliph as well, though most of the Muslim world didn't really credit that.

So...it still gives you that separation, at least most of the time.

The woke religion and the socialist religion both directly combine religious and political power in the hands of a small political elite.

Posted by: 18-1 at February 13, 2023 11:52 AM (lc5cP)

303 295 Posted by: polynikes at February 13, 2023 11:50 AM (qnsfO)

I have written at length here almost to the level of a dissertation on the political and historic realities of the birth of Islam.

That said even an imperfect weaponized reflection of Xianity is prefereable to Wokeism.

Posted by: sven at February 13, 2023 11:52 AM (Lzpvj)

304 International Epilepsy Day?

*********

Celebrate with a gin and tonic-clonic

Posted by: Muldoon at February 13, 2023 11:52 AM (ykeLU)

305 Every problem we have today can be laid at the feet of woke women who worship their own vaginas, virtue signal and think nothing of murdering unborn babies so it doesn't inconvenience their hedonistic lifestyl

and they never would have gotten a foot in the door if the patriarchy hadn't enabled them

also, a bunch of loser POTUSes were elected prior to the 19th amendment, one of them being Woodrow Wilson.

Posted by: kallisto at February 13, 2023 11:52 AM (dCxaZ)

306 300 Yeah, this thread is poised on the brink of turning ugly. Time to go change the batteries inn my smok detector.
Posted by: Muldoon at February 13, 2023 11:51 AM (ykeLU)

Is that to keep you from dressing like an artist or a peasant?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 13, 2023 11:53 AM (zZu0s)

307 In city now, didn't see dead bodies or burned out cars this morning, not down in center city though

Posted by: Skip at February 13, 2023 11:53 AM (ImatJ)

308 woke women are too emotive, unstable and solipsistic to be trusted with any kind of power

_____

Woke men are worse. And there are more of them in power.

Like the majority of the Democratic party are men.

Not to mention the flat out commies.

Top. Men.

Posted by: Just Lily at February 13, 2023 11:53 AM (gxRow)

309 Question for the horde:

I need to store gasoline for emergency auto fueling use and want a recommendation for best canister. In an emergency that requires me to drive, I would have to be able to carry the fuel with me for resupply along the way.

Any recommendations?

Posted by: Huck Follywood at February 13, 2023 11:53 AM (74s8k)

310 283
Posted by: Aetius451AD

You are correct in that this is a philosophical discussion. But we are finding some philosophies to be a bit misogynistic, sadly. It’s a shame that word has been abused by the left so it in and of itself has been devalued. But it is a thing, clearly.

Posted by: Piper at February 13, 2023 11:53 AM (ZdaMQ)

311 The Left, just like "militant Islam" before it, was and is just a tool of the corporatist- government elite that want to rule through a dicatorship.
The plan is to generally eviscerate any personal rights that we thought (as Americans) were protected by the Constitution.

The Left, although they think they are going to run things, is just another group of militant, ignorant nihilists. Do you really think that those idiot jackwads in Antifa are going to be allowed to run things?

Think back (or go read about) how Lenin (and then Stalin) got rid of all the real Bolsheviks, as they were a counter-revolutionary threat.

Even this mouthy idiot, Klaus Schwab and his WEF are just a front for a handful of very rich people that want to control everything.

Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at February 13, 2023 11:54 AM (vcOmj)

312 Will the mineral rights be taken away so because?

Posted by: humphreyrobot at February 13, 2023 11:54 AM (fjbmW)

313 BabylonBee: Pete Buttigieg Promises To Investigate Ohio Railway Chemical Spill For Signs Of Racism

Posted by: SMOD at February 13, 2023 11:54 AM (RHGPo)

314 "Lets just go full Viking and hack our way to a better world."

https://ytube.io/3arc

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 13, 2023 11:54 AM (yQpMk)

315 257
Let's tear down a prosperous western society and see what happens.

I guess the woke don't believe that nature hates a vacuum. That, or they are arrogant enough that they only see themselves prevailing.

They failed to understand history.

Posted by: Floridachick at February 13, 2023 11:54 AM (5Qj+5)

316 Everywhere and always, "The Problem" is a sufficient mass of your populace whose worldview boils down to "You Have To Fix My Problems".

You wanna give anyone sufficient power to Solve Your Problems, they'll become a bigger problem than anything you already got going on. Defend me from the crazy hairy painted barbarians over those hills. Let me buy someone else's food I that I can't afford. Make those people stop doing this thing I don't like. Buy me a pony. No, not that pony, the nicer pony. Whatever it is, it's always the same.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 13, 2023 11:54 AM (/EuRN)

317 *checks calendar*

so today is Battle of the Sexes Day at the HQ...

Generation Wars must be tomorrow, and re-litigation of the ACW is Friday.

Posted by: kallisto at February 13, 2023 11:55 AM (dCxaZ)

318 All threads these days seem to be laced with dooooom. It's hard to not get royally depressed thinking about where we're headed.

Posted by: Lady in Black at February 13, 2023 11:55 AM (sVtYq)

319 289 274 These comments have started to take a bad turn. Blaming all women for the crazy libtards and Karens on the left so that is it is okay to put all women in Burquas is a pretty fascist take.
Much as I hate Woke, I can wear what I want, drive a car, have a master's degree, married who I wanted to
and travel wherever I want

——

Thank you.
Posted by: Piper at February 13, 2023 11:49 AM (ZdaMQ)

Wokeness is feminine pathology. What do you recommend we do? The culture is completely blind to and unwilling to restrain it. What do you suggest we do? As a woman, what do we do? I see our children terrorized, the world on the verge of military catastrophe and the prospect of Khmer Rouge revolution. How do we stop women? Serious question.

Posted by: Thesokorus at February 13, 2023 11:55 AM (1ais2)

320 Sharia or Communism neither is fun

Posted by: Skip at February 13, 2023 11:55 AM (ImatJ)

321 306 300 Yeah, this thread is poised on the brink of turning ugly. Time to go change the batteries inn my smok detector.
Posted by: Muldoon at February 13, 2023 11:51 AM (ykeLU

I tried to change the subject but to no avail.. I'm out too

Posted by: It's me donna at February 13, 2023 11:55 AM (bs+z0)

322 Much as I hate Woke, I can wear what I want, drive a car, have a master's degree, married who I wanted to

Consider that when Mohammed first started to generate a following in Mecca he didn't bother the Jews/Pagans there either. When he eventually completely controlled it, things were very very different.

Wokeness is just getting started, though if you consider abortion it has already killed more people then Islam has in the last couple hundred of years.

Posted by: 18-1 at February 13, 2023 11:55 AM (lc5cP)

323 woke women are too emotive, unstable and solipsistic to be trusted with any kind of power

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfor

And what about Tranny men, drag show queens, BDSM practitioners many of whom currently hold high office.
They are the main reason that this has progressed the wawy it has.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 13, 2023 11:55 AM (Y+l9t)

324 They failed to understand history.
Posted by: Floridachick at February 13, 2023 11:54 AM (5Qj+5)

History is just another word for the things everyone before me did wrong.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 13, 2023 11:55 AM (/EuRN)

325 309 Just get an electric car you silly thing.

Mayor Pete

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at February 13, 2023 11:55 AM (lz5hY)

326 63 > If Buick wasn't selling a lot in China it would be gone, too.

There was an old joke about a merger between Pontiac and Buick -- the Puick.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 13, 2023 11:12 AM (bW8dp)
----
or the Bic and made in France.

Posted by: Ciampino - self-propelled vehicle at February 13, 2023 11:56 AM (qfLjt)

327 If you spend your time fantasizing about what form of tyranny is most likely to wipe out the people who bother you the most, you should take a hard look at just how into this whole "Western Culture" thing you were in the first place.

I embrace Western civilization. Anything that can produce the timeless majesty of Shakespeare, Bach and Fra Angelico is a culture to treasure, honor and preserve.

But the western world is hell-bent on destruction of religion, art and music in service to a cult that denies God, wants to lay waste to cities and towns in the name of an apocalyptic 'green' insanity and desires to elevate a select few over a vast enslaved majority.

There will be no returning to a sane world, at least not here in the US (I know most of you do not accept my fatalism). We will not return to a constitutional republic, no matter which tomato can GOP stooge is put up as a candidate.

So, yes, I want revenge. If I must die, if I must be enslaved by those who pretend to be my representatives, then I want those who have brought me to this point to be punished with death.

And that is all I am going to say on the subject.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 13, 2023 11:56 AM (AW0uW)

328 The "woke" hive mind has no gender.

Posted by: Lady in Black at February 13, 2023 11:56 AM (sVtYq)

329 If I had to lay a wager right now, it's that the attempted imposition of Sharia would be the most likely to result in a domestic revolution to form a government capable of fighting it, so that is why Sharia gets my vote. I don't want to live under any of them, and I think Sharia has the best odds of causing enough immediate pain and anger that people would take up arms to deal with it. We currently have a hybrid of the woke dictatorship and Chinese surveillance state, and it got there by boiling the frog. Sharia doesn't boil the frog and has a better chance of being defeated.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 13, 2023 11:56 AM (t0OGg)

330 "The flat spin was unrecoverable. Lt. Mitchel was not a fault, and will be returned to flight status." We don't have Goose to punch us out.

Posted by: Paladin at February 13, 2023 11:56 AM (WA3cK)

331 242 They’ll literally allow the government to take their kids and chop off their child’s genitalia but as long as they get to keep their guns, they’ll live with it.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at February 13, 2023 11:34 AM (cMXNt)

Would you?
Posted by: polynikes at February 13, 2023 11:38 AM (qnsfO)

———

I don’t own a gun. Don’t see much use for it. If the government took my kids, I’m pretty sure I won’t be going on any shooting spree.

We’re on a post talking about the death, really the killing of Western civilization, and what would replace it. So I guess the default position is that there won’t be any violent defense of it in the future.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at February 13, 2023 11:56 AM (cMXNt)

332 My brother slammed the door on my hand and the door closed completely. That hurt.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS)

I'm surprised you still have the hand.

Back then, car doors weighed more than entire cars do today. Gigantic slabs of thick metal, they were.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 13, 2023 11:28 AM

My dad was shocked that my hand wasn't crushed, but it worked fine once the pain went away.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at February 13, 2023 11:57 AM (uNylN)

333 Much as I hate Woke, I can wear what I want, drive a car, have a master's degree, married who I wanted to

****

I, I, I, me, me, me

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at February 13, 2023 11:57 AM (VTu1l)

334 I notice that none of Buck's three choices fosters a strong middle class.

Hmmm...

Posted by: Muldoon at February 13, 2023 11:57 AM (ykeLU)

335 I don’t own a gun. Don’t see much use for it. If the government took my kids, I’m pretty sure I won’t be going on any shooting spree.

We’re on a post talking about the death, really the killing of Western civilization, and what would replace it. So I guess the default position is that there won’t be any violent defense of it in the future.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at February 13, 2023 11:56 AM (cMXNt)

Well not with that attitude...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at February 13, 2023 11:57 AM (lEVn+)

336 9 little totalitarian humor here... KJP doesn't know or care what NORAD is and the Peoples Republic of Canada has been renamed "Canadia". Try to keep up.

https://tinyurl.com/mav8vype
Posted by: Huck Follywood
---------------------------------

This is how stupid and ignorant one must be to work in the Biden Administration.
This is how stupid and ignorant one must be to believe the Biden administration is creating positive outcomes.
This how stupid and ignorant one must be to believe the Biden administration is actually making decisions.

Posted by: Braenyard at February 13, 2023 11:57 AM (DveAR)

337 >>I don’t own a gun. Don’t see much use for it.

I got news for ya...

Posted by: Ice-T at February 13, 2023 11:57 AM (9qmLq)

338 289 274 These comments have started to take a bad turn. Blaming all women for the crazy libtards and Karens on the left so that is it is okay to put all women in Burquas is a pretty fascist take.
Much as I hate Woke, I can wear what I want, drive a car, have a master's degree, married who I wanted to and travel wherever I want
——
Thank you.
Posted by: Piper
--------
Ignore the comment. Some folks like to get a rise out of others knowing that someone will object.

My guess is that we are in transition to the destruction of globalism and other transnationalisms one way or another. Transition though will be messy.

Posted by: whig at February 13, 2023 11:57 AM (GVj+S)

339 >Yeah, this thread is poised on the brink of turning ugly.
Posted by: Muldoon

yes

"Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery?”

Posted by: DB at February 13, 2023 11:58 AM (geLO8)

340 When the left has successfully killed off western civilization, which of the most likely alternatives would you prefer if you’re still around?
- American / European style wokeness
- Chinese style digital surveillance state
- Muslim sharia

Do you want:
skin cancer
colon cancer (up your ass 24/7)
brain cancer (i KEEL you!)

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 13, 2023 11:58 AM (ynpvh)

341 Our chances have been slipping through our fingers for more than a decade: White House Christmas tree, 2009 - (Christian Post dot com) ...Mao Zedong ornament on the tree in the Blue Room. Other pictured ornaments depict transvestite Hedda Lettuce and Mount Rushmore with President Obama's head added to it.

theweek dot com, 2015 - Andrew Breitbart's Big Government website posted photos of ornaments on a White House Christmas tree that feature images of Chairman Mao, drag queen Hedda Lettuce, and Barack Obama's face on Mount Rushmore. The office of first lady Michelle Obama said that the White House didn't know what was on the ornaments, which were made by community groups and were among 800 placed on the tree in the White House's Blue Room. Do the decorations suggest a lapse of judgment or is Breitbart just scandalmongering?

SOTU address - Children were mentioned 13 TIMES. (Pay attention people because the gov will be controlling them younger & younger.) Military was mentioned TWICE & now we learn there's insufficent equipment, readiness, etc.

Yeah, tho remember the Vikings were a community, a job description. Lose 'community' and there's no place to make a stand.

Posted by: Lola at February 13, 2023 11:58 AM (Wxlzw)

342 'Which Form of Tyranny Would You Prefer When the Left Kills Off Western Civilization?'

I don't want any tyranny but if I have to choose: A tyranny that feeds leftists into an incinerator.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at February 13, 2023 11:58 AM (q3iUt)

343 We’re on a post talking about the death, really the killing of Western civilization, and what would replace it. So I guess the default position is that there won’t be any violent defense of it in the future.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at February 13, 2023 11:56 AM (cMXNt)

Which Field Office do you work from? Denver? New Haven?

Posted by: blaster at February 13, 2023 11:58 AM (pwExq)

344 Part of our problem is the left oh so slowly turning the crank to make people's lives worse.

Let's suppose Biden gets his war with Russia.

Best case there is a draft and tens of thousands of Americans die - this won't be a minor conflict like Iraq.

And that's the best case...the worst case is a nuclear exchange that leaves a number of American cities nuclear wastelands.

That...I have to assume would wake people up? Is that...the end of this? The woke nuts intentionally causing a nuclear war?

Posted by: 18-1 at February 13, 2023 11:58 AM (lc5cP)

345 Posted by: Piper at February 13, 2023 11:53 AM (ZdaMQ)

you're kind of new here, also you're outside the demographic that populates the comment section...so allow me to point this out to you. It's not uncommon to hear these diatribes.

You're too young to recall a song by The Floaters, the lyrics were basically: "Float, Float ON..."

Imma riff on that: "Scroll, scroll on..." And get used to hitting the *mute* button

Posted by: kallisto at February 13, 2023 11:58 AM (dCxaZ)

346 I, I, I, me, me, me
Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger
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Descending to personal insults is not wise here at AOS. Leave it.

Posted by: whig at February 13, 2023 11:59 AM (GVj+S)

347 Posted by: MAGA_Ken at February 13, 2023 11:56 AM (cMXNt)

Then you have no idea about conservative gun owners and what they would allow.

Posted by: polynikes at February 13, 2023 11:59 AM (qnsfO)

348 TJM might enjoy this one. Heston and Welles, separately discuss Touch of Evil.

https://tinyurl.com/mwzfdxmk
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop

I'm a sucker for the long shot and Touch of Evil's opening scene is one of great ones. A bad guy plants a bomb in the trunk of a car and we follow it as it wends its way through a border town.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Not a Real Simulation at February 13, 2023 11:59 AM (FVME7)

349 And what about Tranny men, drag show queens, BDSM practitioners many of whom currently hold high office.
They are the main reason that this has progressed the wawy it has.

****************

So what's the common trait amongst tranny men, simps, soys and all the ghey boys?

they all act like women

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at February 13, 2023 11:59 AM (VTu1l)

350 When the French are telling the West to shut le fuque up already over wokeness and the Italians are elected hotness like Merloni and the Poles and Hungarians are saying "we like our culture very much as it is, thank you very much," I think it might be time for the Specks to repatriate with our ancestors rather than watch Idiocracy take over a once-functioning democracy.

Posted by: red speck at February 13, 2023 11:59 AM (gS3OW)

351 So, Star Trek...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some Best Pictures at February 13, 2023 11:49 AM (LvTSG)

I watched Wrath of Khan and The Undiscovered Country last week.

Undiscovered Country really does improve if you imagine Valerys is really Saavik.

Posted by: Robert at February 13, 2023 11:59 AM (N4QQ2)

352 Good post, beautiful song. Thanks.

Posted by: Lola at February 13, 2023 11:59 AM (Wxlzw)

353 Why do people confuse "woke" with classical liberalism?

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at February 13, 2023 11:59 AM (AaLDK)

354 317 *checks calendar*

so today is Battle of the Sexes Day at the HQ...

Generation Wars must be tomorrow, and re-litigation of the ACW is Friday.
Posted by: kallisto at February 13, 2023 11:55 AM (dCxaZ)

Already?

Well, I'll make some time for Friday at least...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at February 13, 2023 11:59 AM (lEVn+)

355
Much as I hate Woke,

I can wear what I want, - yeah, probably

drive a car - Nope. EVs are just a push for eliminating private autos, unless you're one of the elite

have a master's degree, - Maybe, you can see the push to eliminate conservative and Christians from college campuses

married who I wanted to - maybe, the woke seem very hot on race war and race restrictions

and travel wherever I want - Nope. You'll be restricted for environmental reasons. Flying may not be an option unless you're an elite. And you will probably be living in your "5 mile squareville"

Woke limits you as well.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 13, 2023 12:00 PM (KLPy8)

356 If a gun were put to my head, Islam has a certain cruel logic and seems not much worse than Mormonism or certain strands of Protestantism. Christianity (even Protestantism) is still much preferable though.

Posted by: PG at February 13, 2023 12:00 PM (84jHt)

357 341 ...Other pictured ornaments depict transvestite Hedda Lettuce ...

Posted by:

Obiligatory:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJvE0_YGMHw

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 13, 2023 12:00 PM (ynpvh)

358 @309

>>Any recommendations?

It would depend on what type of vehicle you have.

If you have a pickup there are fuel storage and dispensing units that can be fitted in the bed.

If you have something like a wrangler, there are tire carriers that can accommodate several jerry cans of fuel.

If you have an SUV, you could get a roof rack and fit some jerry cans to that.

If you have something like a sedan or small compact car your options are going to be severely limited as those types of vehicles are not really conducive to off the shelf solutions and carrying jerry can help inside the vehicle are dangerous and sun-optimal and dangerous.

Did I mention dangerous?

Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 13, 2023 12:00 PM (xlag0)

359 I would that you have joy, and that abundantly.
- some guy

Posted by: Eromero at February 13, 2023 12:01 PM (z3WCn)

360 Wokeness is feminine pathology? What is wrong with you? This didn't start with women. It started with LGBTQ which is not limited to women. The true craziness started with men deciding they were women and tried to make all of us decide there was no difference between men and women. It was men again asserting their rights to subjugate women by denying them their identity and their value to society.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 13, 2023 12:01 PM (Y+l9t)

361 My guess is that we are in transition to the destruction of globalism and other transnationalisms one way or another. Transition though will be messy.
Posted by: whig at February 13, 2023 11:57 AM (GVj+S)
++++
Concur. We're in the last gasp of globalization and even a lot of the prominent globalists are taking actions in that direction. The current administration, for example, has done quite a bit to wreck the structure. Some of it - like the war in Ukraine - was public and deliberate but a lot of it has been done under the banner of stupid, too (like the seismic shift happening in automotive supply lines and production chains due to the "inflation reduction" bill, etc.).

The globalist world we've been in for about 40 years in the process of ending. It's going to be messy as hell, and probably fairly deadly - especially if you're in a place that depends on globalization for agriculture (Africa and China in particular).

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 13, 2023 12:01 PM (t0OGg)

362 Already?

Well, I'll make some time for Friday at least...

we'll be happy to see you!

And I guess I don't have to remind you...come strapped

Posted by: kallisto at February 13, 2023 12:01 PM (dCxaZ)

363 Wokeness is feminine pathology. What do you recommend we do? The culture is completely blind to and unwilling to restrain it. What do you suggest we do? As a woman, what do we do? I see our children terrorized, the world on the verge of military catastrophe and the prospect of Khmer Rouge revolution. How do we stop women? Serious question.
Posted by: Thesokorus at February 13, 2023 11:55 AM (1ais2)

_____

I don't see it as a feminine pathology. I believe it is actually majority pushed by men. Abortion, birth control and the dissolution of the family benefit men primarily.

The Christian idea of the family benefits women and children and puts men at their service. A very radical thought and unheard of in any other civilization.

The idea that women should not be cherished and protected is the norm throughout human history.

Posted by: Just Lily at February 13, 2023 12:02 PM (gxRow)

364 The "woke" hive mind has no gender.
Posted by: Lady in Black

Just appetite.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Not a Real Simulation at February 13, 2023 12:02 PM (FVME7)

365 There's nothing new here. There's Liberty, and then there's Everything Else. And Liberty is weird and scary and unnatural.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 13, 2023 12:02 PM (/EuRN)

366 Hey, umm, so is there any recent sports news?

Posted by: blaster at February 13, 2023 12:02 PM (pwExq)

367 I want a civilization based upon crusader Christianity.

Posted by: Archer at February 13, 2023 12:02 PM (gmo/4)

368 I'm afraid it's coming down to what I'd hoped to never see, one war was enough.

Should this be the case, then I mean to honor my oath as best I can. Whatever the circumstance.

Posted by: irongrampa at February 13, 2023 12:02 PM (KATBx)

369 Sharia would not allow you to own a Bible without threat of penalty including death.

Posted by: polynikes at February 13, 2023 12:02 PM (qnsfO)

370 353 Why do people confuse "woke" with classical liberalism?
Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at February 13, 2023 11:59 AM (AaLDK)

Because in the US, the Left and Liberalism merged, largely due to the Leftist takeover of the Democratic party after McGovern's defeat. Woke identity politics arose from racial politics from the DNC. "Liberal" was shorthand for Leftism for many years, rightly or wrongly.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at February 13, 2023 12:03 PM (lEVn+)

371 Hasn't Joe Mannix traced the origin of wokeness to French philosophers in the 1980s?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some Best Pictures at February 13, 2023 12:03 PM (LvTSG)

372 Wokeness is feminine pathology? What is wrong with you? This didn't start with women.

Actually we can all trace these ideologies back to Jean-Jacques Rousseau and his fellow Enlightenment philosophers and anti-Christs.

*yes Virginia, "jean" was male. It's the French form of the name "John"*

Posted by: kallisto at February 13, 2023 12:03 PM (dCxaZ)

373 359 I would that you have joy, and that abundantly.
- some guy
Posted by: Eromero at February 13, 2023 12:01 PM (z3WCn)

Would in one hand and shit in the other, bucko.

Posted by: Joy at February 13, 2023 12:03 PM (/EuRN)

374 What I really want is to be left the hell alone, but it seems less and less likely that’ll be allowed.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 13, 2023 12:03 PM (u73oe)

375 366 Hey, umm, so is there any recent sports news?

Posted by: blaster at February 13, 2023 12:02 PM (pwExq)

A racist team won the Super Bidet.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 13, 2023 12:03 PM (ynpvh)

376 353 Why do people confuse "woke" with classical liberalism?
Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem

US has always had this distortion since progressives after Woody Wilson's administration became a pejorative. Then they started calling themselves liberals. Rest of the world does not use that terminology.

I prefer leftists myself for consistency.

Posted by: whig at February 13, 2023 12:03 PM (GVj+S)

377
The globalist world we've been in for about 40 years in the process of ending. It's going to be messy as hell, and probably fairly deadly - especially if you're in a place that depends on globalization for agriculture (Africa and China in particular).
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 13, 2023 12:01 PM (t0OGg)

———

We can only hope. And thanks to Trump to get the ball rolling from a multilateral world to bilateral relations.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at February 13, 2023 12:03 PM (cMXNt)

378 362 Already?

Well, I'll make some time for Friday at least...

we'll be happy to see you!

And I guess I don't have to remind you...come strapped
Posted by: kallisto at February 13, 2023 12:01 PM (dCxaZ)

Heh, always.
Though I don't anticipate needing it to talk to morons. We're all mostly in the same tribe. Mostly.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at February 13, 2023 12:04 PM (lEVn+)

379 >>The Christian idea of the family benefits women and children and puts men at their service. A very radical thought and unheard of in any other civilization.

Gee...I wonder where they got that from?

Posted by: garrett at February 13, 2023 12:04 PM (9qmLq)

380 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some Best Pictures at February 13, 2023 12:03 PM (LvTSG)

ok, you were reading my mind

Or was I inside the nooks and crannies of your cranium?

Posted by: kallisto at February 13, 2023 12:04 PM (dCxaZ)

381 As I began reading Buck's article a question came to mind.

What would Thomas Payne think?

Posted by: Braenyard at February 13, 2023 12:04 PM (DveAR)

382 Why do people confuse "woke" with classical liberalism?
Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem

I know! I know! Because they're idiots!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Not a Real Simulation at February 13, 2023 12:04 PM (FVME7)

383 Those choosing sharia because at least it won't sexually confuse the kids are ignorant of how sharia works in practice. *Any* young boy is a fair target for a man. Homosexual rape is nearly as common as heterosexual there.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at February 13, 2023 12:04 PM (nC+QA)

384 dag that was kind of scary TJM

Posted by: kallisto at February 13, 2023 12:04 PM (dCxaZ)

385 380 ok, you were reading my mind

Or was I inside the nooks and crannies of your cranium?
Posted by: kallisto at February 13, 2023 12:04 PM (dCxaZ)

=========

Horde mind. Just embrace it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some Best Pictures at February 13, 2023 12:04 PM (LvTSG)

386 Hasn't Joe Mannix traced the origin of wokeness to French philosophers in the 1980s?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some Best Pictures at February 13, 2023 12:03 PM (LvTSG)
++++
Earlier. And the French have a lot to answer for. So do the Germans. So do we.

Modern "woke" is the result of the hybridization of Postmodernism - a French invention, and a philosophy with no means of action - and Critical Theory - a German invention, and a means of action with no philosophy. The American universities and their populations of disaffected communists are where the damn monster was synthesized and then exported.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 13, 2023 12:04 PM (t0OGg)

387 371 Hasn't Joe Mannix traced the origin of wokeness to French philosophers in the 1980s?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some Best Pictures at February 13, 2023 12:03 PM (LvTSG)

Pics needed for the full citation

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at February 13, 2023 12:04 PM (lEVn+)

388 367 I want a civilization based upon crusader Christianity.

Posted by: Archer at February 13, 2023 12:02 PM (gmo/4)

Not a good time to have been a Jew though; Crusaders on the one hand, Islamists on the other.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 13, 2023 12:05 PM (ynpvh)

389 We are marching toward WWIII

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More strutting toward WWIII.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Not a Real Simulation at February 13, 2023 11:31 AM (FVME7)

Sashaying. It's what we do now.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 13, 2023 12:05 PM (FCbAQ)

390 319 Posted by: Thesokorus

Is it a women thing? Or is it a stupid left thing? Let’s just head on over to Hollywood and take a gander.

If I had the answer y’all would be calling me Empress Piper and some of y’all would be wearing Burkas. No names mentioned. WE have to do something and to cry Sharia “for the children” is laughable, both boys and girls. There aren’t enough available lines here to fully answer you, but it isn’t a me thing. It’s a we thing. Don’t make us the enemy as it takes away from the real fight, doesn’t it?

Posted by: Piper at February 13, 2023 12:05 PM (ZdaMQ)

391 We will revert to the mean. Aristocracy/Feudalism.

Posted by: Halfhand at February 13, 2023 12:05 PM (Ud/Am)

392 Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 13, 2023 12:01 PM (Y+l9t)

Calm down.

😀

Posted by: polynikes at February 13, 2023 12:05 PM (qnsfO)

393 I'm a sucker for the long shot and Touch of Evil's opening scene is one of great ones. A bad guy plants a bomb in the trunk of a car and we follow it as it wends its way through a border town.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Not a Real Simulation at February 13, 2023 11:59 AM (FVME7)

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"Tracking shot" -- and so am I.

Only discovered Firefly (by way of the movie Serenity) a decade ago from watching a video of the best tracking shots in cinema history.

Posted by: ShainS -- Slaves no longer require coercion because they love their servitude at February 13, 2023 12:06 PM (65Rre)

394 387 371 Hasn't Joe Mannix traced the origin of wokeness to French philosophers in the 1980s?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some Best Pictures at February 13, 2023 12:03 PM (LvTSG)

Pics needed for the full citation
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at February 13, 2023 12:04 PM (lEVn+)

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*ponders deeply*
*inhales steam with hints of eucalyptus leaves*
*nods in agreement*

I concur.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some Best Pictures at February 13, 2023 12:06 PM (LvTSG)

395
Gee...I wonder where they got that from?

Posted by: garrett
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Playing catch up?

Posted by: Braenyard at February 13, 2023 12:06 PM (DveAR)

396 I don’t own a gun. Don’t see much use for it. If the government took my kids, I’m pretty sure I won’t be going on any shooting spree.
We’re on a post talking about the death, really the killing of Western civilization, and what would replace it. So I guess the default position is that there won’t be any violent defense of it in the future.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken

Well not with that attitude...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water

I own more than several firearms. Owning them won't stop the government from going to a dictatorship. In fact, they mark me and my wife as targets.
I will die on my doorstep before I submit. And that is frankly the way I think I will be going out.
Still, not enough people are awake to what waits for all of us.
Most of us (including myself) sat on our hands while the Democrats stole the 2020 election.
And there is no path for Trump or DeSantis or any other Republican to win the presidency in 2024 if it is decided that a Democrat is supposed to win.

Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at February 13, 2023 12:06 PM (vcOmj)

397 Thanks Piper.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 13, 2023 12:06 PM (Y+l9t)

398 Actually we can all trace these ideologies back to Jean-Jacques Rousseau and his fellow Enlightenment philosophers and anti-Christs.

*yes Virginia, "jean" was male. It's the French form of the name "John"*
Posted by: kallisto
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Rousseau was a disgusting sex pervert and a leech that attached himself to various women. In addition, he had quite a few kids that he ditched.

Loathsome person and his screeds were broadly ignored until the French Revolution. John Adams had a copy of one of Rousseau's books and was distinctly not flattering to it.

Posted by: whig at February 13, 2023 12:06 PM (GVj+S)

399 yeah, this thread is poised on the brink of turning ugly.

YES!!

Is it time yet for me to drag all the furniture out on the front lawn and set fire to it?

Posted by: kallisto at February 13, 2023 12:06 PM (dCxaZ)

400 Moral Relativism v Moral Absolutism / Realism

That is the argument.

Kill ALL Consequentialists and we solve the problem.

Posted by: garrett at February 13, 2023 12:06 PM (9qmLq)

401 Calm down.

😀
Posted by: polynikes at February 13, 2023 12:05 PM (qnsfO)

And that's when the fight started.

Posted by: blaster at February 13, 2023 12:06 PM (pwExq)

402 Then you have no idea about conservative gun owners and what they would allow.
Posted by: polynikes at February 13, 2023 11:59 AM (qnsfO)

——-

Only time will tell.

I do know that a stolen Presidential election couldn’t rouse them from their La Z Boys.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at February 13, 2023 12:06 PM (cMXNt)

403 We will revert to the mean. Aristocracy/Feudalism.
Posted by: Halfhand at February 13, 2023 12:05 PM (Ud/Am)
++++
A decent monarch would be better than the current state of affairs. A poor monarch would probably be about the same. A lunatic or evil monarch would be worse.

That's the risk of monarchy.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 13, 2023 12:07 PM (t0OGg)

404 Rousseau was a disgusting sex pervert and a leech

oh he and his fanboi Karl Marx had something in common then

Posted by: kallisto at February 13, 2023 12:07 PM (dCxaZ)

405 Take two with you.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) reminds you at February 13, 2023 12:07 PM (yQpMk)

406 I flipped on the TV last night just in time to catch Chris Berman and Andy Reid embracing. I thought I had stumbled on a Nat Geo special on Mating Rituals of the Elephant Seal.

Posted by: Muldoon at February 13, 2023 12:07 PM (ykeLU)

407 403 A decent monarch would be better than the current state of affairs. A poor monarch would probably be about the same. A lunatic or evil monarch would be worse.

That's the risk of monarchy.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 13, 2023 12:07 PM (t0OGg)

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Also, violent transitions of power over conflicting claims to the throne.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some Best Pictures at February 13, 2023 12:08 PM (LvTSG)

408 Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 13, 2023 12:01 PM (Y+l9t)

Calm down.

😀

Posted by: polynikes at February 13, 2023 12:05 PM

Okay, you made me laugh.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 13, 2023 12:08 PM (Y+l9t)

409 The primary political support for woke politics is single women.

Interestingly there is a crazy divide based on the single vs married part.

Married women are slightly conservative, unmarried women are almost completely far left wing.

A number of SoCon talking heads have therefore decided they have to convince men to marry these women but...this is sort of the reverse of the problem.

Those women don't want a man, well, maybe Christian Gray, but not men that exist in the real world.

In the old days there was social pressure on this cohort of women to not be the evil harridans they are and real material costs to not getting married.

Posted by: 18-1 at February 13, 2023 12:08 PM (lc5cP)

410 406 I flipped on the TV last night just in time to catch Chris Berman and Andy Reid embracing. I thought I had stumbled on a Nat Geo special on Mating Rituals of the Elephant Seal.

Posted by: Muldoon at February 13, 2023 12:07 PM (ykeLU)

Who says you didn't?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 13, 2023 12:08 PM (ynpvh)

411 Actually we can all trace these ideologies back to Jean-Jacques Rousseau and his fellow Enlightenment philosophers and anti-Christs.

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Long before that. The Grachii of late 2nd century Rome were essentially proto Marxists.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Not a Real Simulation at February 13, 2023 12:08 PM (FVME7)

412 As an aside - I did not know it was possible for smiley faces to be italicized.

Posted by: blaster at February 13, 2023 12:08 PM (pwExq)

413 As an aside - I did not know it was possible for smiley faces to be italicized.
Posted by: blaster at February 13, 2023 12:08 PM (pwExq)
++++
What a time to be alive.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 13, 2023 12:09 PM (t0OGg)

414 Because before I would accept those three, I'll die fighting. Actual booger hooking the bang switch kind.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 13, 2023 11:34 AM (SbJgO)

I've read the Narnia series to my children.

The last book is particularly important for today. "The Last Battle" is about fighting a fight you know you will lose- but fighting till the end, anyway.

I think we'll have a lot of these final battles until The Final Battle occurs.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at February 13, 2023 12:09 PM (N1tpc)

415 412 As an aside - I did not know it was possible for smiley faces to be italicized.
Posted by: blaster at February 13, 2023 12:08 PM (pwExq)

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This also surprised me.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some Best Pictures at February 13, 2023 12:09 PM (LvTSG)

416 411 Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Not a Real Simulation at February 13, 2023 12:08 PM (FVME7)

I am owed for breathing is a powerful drug for the masses to put asshole lunatics in power.

Posted by: sven at February 13, 2023 12:09 PM (Lzpvj)

417 402 Ken, when you end shift in Quantico, are there any good diners you frequent in Triangle VA?

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at February 13, 2023 12:09 PM (lz5hY)

418 413 As an aside - I did not know it was possible for smiley faces to be italicized.
Posted by: blaster at February 13, 2023 12:08 PM (pwExq)
++++
What a time to be alive.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 13, 2023 12:09 PM (t0OGg)

Does it work with bold or strikeout?
😀 😀

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 13, 2023 12:09 PM (ynpvh)

419 "When the left has successfully killed off western civilization, which of the most likely alternatives would you prefer if you’re still around?
- American / European style wokeness
- Chinese style digital surveillance state
- Muslim sharia"

Unfortunately, Shari'ah is probably the one closest to "RETVRN" values.

Posted by: XTC at February 13, 2023 12:10 PM (UnA8+)

420 I guess so. LOL

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 13, 2023 12:10 PM (ynpvh)

421 Only time will tell.

I do know that a stolen Presidential election couldn’t rouse them from their La Z Boys.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken

Absolutely true. Just owning a firearm doesn't mean squat unless you are willing to pick it up and use it.
Most people feel that they have "to much to lose".

Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at February 13, 2023 12:10 PM (vcOmj)

422 I do know that a stolen Presidential election couldn’t rouse them from their La Z Boys.

The really stupid thing about the accusation that the J6 protests is that if they were an insurrection - if the million Trump supporters had come armed and with a plan to overthrow the government...they would have succeeded.

Posted by: 18-1 at February 13, 2023 12:10 PM (lc5cP)

423 Okay, you made me laugh.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 13, 2023 12:08 PM (Y+l9t)

I'm glad . That was my intention.

Posted by: polynikes at February 13, 2023 12:10 PM (qnsfO)

424 I just turned sixty. I've lived a good long life. Just realized a bucket list tick off that I never thought would happen.

Fuck with my grandchildren. Let's find out.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 13, 2023 11:41 AM (SbJgO)

I'm turning 76 in June, so you can only imagine the lack of fucks I have to give.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at February 13, 2023 12:10 PM (Zvtjl)

425 >>Only time will tell.

Asia!

Posted by: garrett at February 13, 2023 12:10 PM (9qmLq)

426 22 First an incredibly depressing painting and now an incredibly depressing rant on the destruction of Western civilization.
Sigh...Is this the new normal because I am not in f avor of this.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice)
-----------------------------------

Calm down.

😀
Posted by: polynikes a
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She's right. A military blog discussing terms of surrender, Mannix and Mary Poppins' excluded , is depressing.

Posted by: Braenyard at February 13, 2023 12:11 PM (DveAR)

427 I hope that globalization is ending but I don't know....I look at what is happening in Brazil and Canada and Europe. At what point will people have had enough before it is too late? It may already be too late.

Posted by: Floridachick at February 13, 2023 12:11 PM (5Qj+5)

428 424 I just turned sixty. I've lived a good long life. Just realized a bucket list tick off that I never thought would happen.

Fuck with my grandchildren. Let's find out.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 13, 2023 11:41 AM (SbJgO)

I'm turning 76 in June, so you can only imagine the lack of fucks I have to give.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at February 13, 2023 12:10 PM (Zvtjl)

I guess that makes me a yung-un, not quite so far in to my 29th year.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 13, 2023 12:11 PM (ynpvh)

429 Okay, you made me laugh.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 13, 2023 12:08 PM (Y+l9t)

My wife says that after sex!

Posted by: Rodney at February 13, 2023 12:11 PM (Zvtjl)

430 I flipped on the TV last night just in time to catch Chris Berman and Andy Reid embracing. I thought I had stumbled on a Nat Geo special on Mating Rituals of the Elephant Seal.
Posted by: Muldoon at February 13, 2023

***
I'll borrow that the next time I write to my local TV stations to complain about the landwhales they are allowing on air during "news" broadcasts.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 13, 2023 12:11 PM (J2vNu)

431 404 Rousseau was a disgusting sex pervert and a leech

oh he and his fanboi Karl Marx had something in common then
Posted by: kallisto

Yes. It is common among the left as the major driving force for them is envy and will to power. That does not leave a whole lot of room left for human kindness. Evil occurs when people reduces others to labels.

Posted by: whig at February 13, 2023 12:12 PM (GVj+S)

432 Only a Sith believes in absolutes.

Wait ...

Posted by: G'rump928(c) reminds you at February 13, 2023 12:12 PM (yQpMk)

433 429 Okay, you made me laugh.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 13, 2023 12:08 PM (Y+l9t)

My wife says that after sex!

Posted by: Rodney at February 13, 2023 12:11 PM (Zvtjl)

At least it's not during...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 13, 2023 12:13 PM (ynpvh)

434 I hope that globalization is ending but I don't know....I look at what is happening in Brazil and Canada and Europe. At what point will people have had enough before it is too late? It may already be too late.

I had real hopes for Brazil, but it looks like ultimately the Brazilian military decided a pension and a peaceful retirement was more important then saving their society.

I see their dictator is forcibly injecting people with the clot shot if they protest now. So the argument is "so safe and effective that it makes a good punishment for political prisoners!"

Posted by: 18-1 at February 13, 2023 12:13 PM (lc5cP)

435 Noodus environmentalis

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 13, 2023 12:13 PM (J2vNu)

436 Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 13, 2023 12:01 PM (Y+l9t)

Calm down.

😀

Posted by: polynikes at February 13, 2023 12:05 PM

Okay, you made me laugh.
Posted by: sharon

polynikes, You told a woman to calm down and you didn't die.

I kneel before a master.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 13, 2023 12:13 PM (SbJgO)

437 Nood. Thank God.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 13, 2023 12:14 PM (zZu0s)

438 >>I had real hopes for Brazil,

Did you never attend a History Class?

Brazil is a fucking mess. Will never be anything but, either.

Posted by: garrett at February 13, 2023 12:14 PM (9qmLq)

439
345 - hi Kallisto. I am not new at all, been around since the LGF days, had a different nic and then went into lurk status because I was being hunted (literally) by my ex. And I was 6 when that song came out, so finally, I am too young for something again!

Listen, my normal is happy, supportive and cheerful. I don’t get too wound up by things people I don’t really know say, at least not long term. I appreciate your wisdom, though. Thank you.

Posted by: Piper at February 13, 2023 12:14 PM (ZdaMQ)

440 >She's right. A military blog discussing terms of surrender, Mannix and Mary Poppins' excluded , is depressing.

Posted by: Braenyard

Count me among those who refuse the entire premise of The Question.

Posted by: DB at February 13, 2023 12:15 PM (geLO8)

441 426 Posted by: Braenyard at February 13, 2023 12:11 PM (DveAR)

Smart military blog, a country that has taken every step to reduce its energy reserves, thwart industry and resource exploitation, and has a culture that has wrought the lowest number of qualified citizens for service in 170 years decides based on "the current thing" to follow a bunch of dementia ridden assclowns on a steeplechase for general nuclear exchange to save an impoverished corruptocracy agrarian country we disarmed in the 90s.

Yeah I don't want "the same democrats who skirted treason to aid the Soviet Union browbeat the Russians into nuking us" for infinity Alex.

Posted by: sven at February 13, 2023 12:15 PM (Lzpvj)

442 Okay, you made me laugh.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 13, 2023 12:08 PM (Y+l9t)

My wife says that after sex!

Posted by: Rodney at February 13, 2023 12:11 PM (Zvtjl)

At least it's not during...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 13, 2023 12:13 PM (ynpvh)

She can't talk in her sleep.

Posted by: Rodney at February 13, 2023 12:16 PM (Zvtjl)

443 Touch of Evil opening tracking shot.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EhmYY5ZMXOY

Thanks, ShainS, for edumacating me on the proper term.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Not a Real Simulation at February 13, 2023 12:16 PM (FVME7)

444 421 Only time will tell.

I do know that a stolen Presidential election couldn’t rouse them from their La Z Boys.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken

Absolutely true. Just owning a firearm doesn't mean squat unless you are willing to pick it up and use it.
Most people feel that they have "to much to lose".
Posted by: A face in the crowd
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It took roughly a decade for the American Revolution to get started. About the same for the American Civil War or the English Civil War.

It was twelve years from 1905 to 1917 in Russia and a similar time for the Chinese Revolution to kick off from the Chinese Republic period. I can go on but the point is war is generally at the end of trying frantically to use politics to fix societal ills.

That is a wise human tendency to try to avoid the horrors that are war.

Posted by: whig at February 13, 2023 12:16 PM (GVj+S)

445 I would suggest that you refer to our history and the issues we met and prevailed over before discussing surrender to whatever passes for our future.

And take specific note of the unbroken string of success.

Posted by: irongrampa at February 13, 2023 12:21 PM (KATBx)

446
China also has managed to develop a lot of amazing technology from their high speed rail system to the Three Gorges Dam.

Horseshit. The Chinee HSR system is dangerous, corrupt, and doesn't even come close to paying for itself, and the TGD is a world-class disaster just waiting to happen since it's built on unstable ground.

As to the Chinee developing these technological marvels themselves, that's even bigger horseshit. They don't innovate anything. ANYTHING. It's much easier to just steal the IP and hit cut/paste on the engineer's CAD program.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 13, 2023 12:26 PM (n+4am)

447 Wokeness eats itself. Of the three that has the shortest half-life.

Posted by: The Atom Bomb of Loving Kindness at February 13, 2023 12:29 PM (52P9+)

448 Sharia. A 7th Century ideology will be more compatible with a world where the use of fossil fuels is sharply curtailed.

Posted by: Butch at February 13, 2023 12:45 PM (0APJ3)

449 come hell or high water western civilization is going to survive in the 85 percent of the us counties that voted for donald trump in 2020 if for no other reason than because thats where theres a rifle behind every blade of grass...

Posted by: sound awake at February 13, 2023 12:55 PM (5pgrw)

450 Actually, this country is slouching toward becoming a woke sharia digital surveillance state. They already performed a test drive with the DNC/FBI/Big Tech collusion where unapproved expression was ruthlessly suppressed. Wokeness is essentially religion, but with ever changing dogma.

Posted by: Xiden's spy balloon at February 13, 2023 12:58 PM (NxRp6)

451 Great post. Thanks.

Posted by: artisanal ette at February 13, 2023 01:03 PM (9qHsE)

452 What? No mention of the future as foreseen by the Prophet Kurtis Schlichter (PBUH!)

I keep thinking that’s our best case left to us.

Posted by: Justin Castreau at February 13, 2023 01:12 PM (V8yYW)

453
Muslim/Sharia

It's time to put down western feminism.

Posted by: Sapwolf at February 13, 2023 01:19 PM (g4MLt)

454 If there is a bloody civil war, I strongly recommend targeting so-called Centrists.

You are at the center of...what? Are you somewhere between the US Constitution and Communism? Because when I talk about sticking to the Constitution, centrists claim I'm extreme.

I believe 99.9% of Centrists know jack and shit about Civics. I think they believe that claiming "centrism" grants them moral and intellectual superiority over "extremists". Basically, they're ignorant midwits.

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at February 13, 2023 01:25 PM (hf5YE)

455 How come "South American Narco State" isn't an option?

Posted by: Dark Force Thirsting For Power at February 13, 2023 01:34 PM (QY+6a)

456 I'm tempted to say sharia because it would be revenge against the Western woman who contributed hugely to losing it all.

Posted by: SamIam at February 13, 2023 01:51 PM (oasF3)

457 You left out Russian Gangster Authoritarianism (in alliance with the CCP) which at least allows for Christian worship.

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