Daily Tech News 11 February 2023

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Google is planning to implement opt-out telemetry into its Go programming language. (The Register)

That means that not only will Google's own apps phone home to Google - they already do that - but every program written by anyone running anywhere if it uses Go.

Programmers have, not surprisingly, told Google to get fucked.
"Now you guys want to introduce telemetry into your programming language?" Weisz said. "This is how you drive off any person who even considered giving your project a chance despite the warning signs. Please don't do this, and please issue a public apology for even proposing it. Please leave a blast radius around this idea wide enough that nobody even suggests trying to do this again."
He added: "Trust in Google's behavior is at an all time low, and moves like this are a choice to shove what's left of it off the edge of a cliff."
The moral lepers over at Mastodon are upset that anyone would object to this latest expansion of the Panopticon:
"This is a large unconventional design, there are a lot of tradeoffs worth discussing and details to explore," he wrote. "When Russ showed it to me I made at least a dozen suggestions and many got implemented."

"Instead: all opt-out telemetry is unethical
Correct.
Google is evil
It is indeed.
this is not needed.
Go has existed for 13 years without this; other programming languages for more than 60.
No one even argued why publishing any of this data could be a problem."
Because the default in any networked system is not to send any data you don't need to send.

It doesn't matter how useful it is to Google. I don't care. It has to be useful to me.

Tech News

MSI has confirmed its 12th and 13th generation Intel motherboards support Micron's new 48GB DIMMs that you can't get. (Tom's Hardware)

Soon.

Probably.
The Asus Vivobook OLED 14 has a 14" 2880x1800 OLED screen, a Ryzen 7730U which is to say a 6800U, 8GB of soldered RAM and one DIMM slot so you should be able to upgrade it to 40GB, and a stupid keyboard. (Liliputing)

Ugh.
Elon Musk is still busy firing idiots at Twitter. (The Verge)

The Verge is the usual left-wing hack rag that represents so much of the pseudo-tech press, so they try to write this as if Musk was in the wrong. If you know anything about how these systems work, or about recent events on Twitter, he is quite obviously right and the unnamed engineer needed to be ejected forthwith.

Disclaimer: Trebuchets 'R' Us, for all your ejection forthwith requirements. Call now for a free measure and quote.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at 04:00 AM

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1 Hi Pixy!

Posted by: JQ at February 11, 2023 04:04 AM (o0Fxd)

2 Hi JQ!

Posted by: Pixy Misa at February 11, 2023 04:05 AM (BLOW1)

3 G'Day everyone

Posted by: Skip at February 11, 2023 04:07 AM (xhxe8)

4 Had trouble getting onto this site, earlier today. Changed DNS server. Not go ogle server though.

A bit slower than before, but at least the site will load now.

Posted by: JQ at February 11, 2023 04:09 AM (o0Fxd)

5 hiya

Posted by: Ciampino - hedgerows you know at February 11, 2023 04:10 AM (qfLjt)

6 Good morning!

Posted by: Lottanerve at February 11, 2023 04:10 AM (/kEIM)

7 JQ - I'll take a look at that issue. I think it might be DNS on the mu.nu side of things.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at February 11, 2023 04:15 AM (BLOW1)

8 Trebuchets 'R' Us, for all your ejection forthwith requirements. Call now for a free measure and quote.
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What's the bandwidth of your trebuchet service? For example can it handle a Tracy Abram, a Hillary Rotten, a Michael demiMoore?

Posted by: Ciampino -- hedgerows you know at February 11, 2023 04:15 AM (qfLjt)

9 May be, Pixy. I had trouble with a couple other mu.nu's but not all. When they *did* load, the pages looked stripped-- no ads, no boxes.

Didn't try all of them.

Thanks for checking!

Posted by: JQ at February 11, 2023 04:17 AM (o0Fxd)

10 Oh, and all other surfing seemed unaffected.

Posted by: JQ at February 11, 2023 04:18 AM (o0Fxd)

11 I do love this fascination with calling all these people 'engineers'. Do they all have an engineering degree say in electronics, light electricity, etc. or just a BS in Computer Science? Reminds me of an old trend with Italian expats who called themselves (Civil) Engineers when they had a Surveying diploma.

Posted by: Ciampino - hedgerows are abustling at February 11, 2023 04:30 AM (qfLjt)

12 Hosting company migrated one of the mu.nu DNS servers overnight and changed the IP address. I've updated the settings but it could take two hours for the change to take effect worldwide.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at February 11, 2023 04:32 AM (BLOW1)

13 CDC Now Recommends Children and Adults with Heart Disease Get Doses of Covid Vaccine
https://is.gd/hUrUCt

I see you have chronic lead poisoning. Here take this arsenic tonic.

Posted by: Ciampino - definitely a stairway to Heaven at February 11, 2023 04:34 AM (qfLjt)

14 Thanks Pixy!

Posted by: JQ at February 11, 2023 04:36 AM (o0Fxd)

15 Donald Trump rips into Rihanna ahead of her Super Bowl performance saying she has 'NO TALENT' after star spray-painted 'F*** Donald Trump' on a car and told Vogue he was 'the most mentally ill man in America'
https://mol.im/a/11738873

Posted by: Ciampino -- definitely a stairway to Heaven at February 11, 2023 04:37 AM (qfLjt)

16 knock knock? Anybody? Beuller?

Posted by: Ciampino --- definitely a stairway to Heaven at February 11, 2023 04:39 AM (qfLjt)

17 So Pixy, what 6809 system did you start with?

Posted by: Ciampino - hedehogs in the hedges at February 11, 2023 04:40 AM (qfLjt)

18 knock knock? knock knock? knock knock? knock knock? knock knock? knock knock? knock knock? knock knock?

Henry! Henry! There's someone knocking on our door! (aside: We'll all be murdered in our beds.)

Posted by: Ciampino - Minnie Bannister of Goonshow fame at February 11, 2023 04:45 AM (qfLjt)

19 I've updated the settings but it could take two hours for the change to take effect worldwide.
Posted by: Pixy Misa

Pixy, after writing anything like that you have to end it with...

"Because of Covid"

Posted by: Bruce at February 11, 2023 04:46 AM (vd8XM)

20 Morning, 'rons and 'ettes.

Posted by: olddog in mo at February 11, 2023 04:47 AM (ju2Fy)

21 I see you have chronic lead poisoning. Here take this arsenic tonic.
Posted by: Ciampino

I think I'll try my doctors advice instead.

"Put the lime in the coconut"

Posted by: Bruce at February 11, 2023 04:48 AM (vd8XM)

22 19 I've updated the settings but it could take two hours for the change to take effect worldwide.
Posted by: Pixy Misa

Pixy, after writing anything like that you have to end it with...

"Because of Covid"

Posted by: Bruce at February 11, 2023 04:46 AM (vd8XM)
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You're right but I would have said 'Chinese luftbalons'

Posted by: Ciampino - hedgehogs are bustling in the hedgerows at February 11, 2023 04:48 AM (qfLjt)

23 You're right but I would have said 'Chinese luftbalons'
Posted by: Ciampino

How many?

Posted by: Bruce at February 11, 2023 04:51 AM (vd8XM)

24 'Mawnin' Horde !

Posted by: JT at February 11, 2023 04:51 AM (T4tVD)

25 Morning JT.

Morning all!

Posted by: Bruce at February 11, 2023 04:52 AM (vd8XM)

26 Good morning morons

Local TV news reports SFPD arrested a man yesterday in connection with Thursday's explosion which killed one and destroyed two homes in the Sunset.

Lotta crazy sh*t going down around here lately.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at February 11, 2023 04:54 AM (EZebt)

27 23 You're right but I would have said 'Chinese luftbalons'
Posted by: Ciampino

How many?

Posted by: Bruce at February 11, 2023 04:51 AM (vd8XM)
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Well, what's her bra size?
(obligatory link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TliE9rTrzXg
)

Posted by: Ciampino - bustles are hedging in the hedgerows at February 11, 2023 04:56 AM (qfLjt)

28 Hiya Bruce !

How's Mrs. Bruce ?

Posted by: JT at February 11, 2023 04:59 AM (T4tVD)

29 How's Mrs. Bruce ?
Posted by: JT

She's fine today. Gritting her teeth awaiting the "procedure" on Monday.
The thing with the procedure is, they numb up the spot on the leg, then scrape it down a few layers, take samples to see if they have good margins, if not, more scraping.
Said on the sheet minimally 4 hours.

Worse part for me is, I get to wear a mask in the waiting room for 4 hours.

Posted by: Bruce at February 11, 2023 05:05 AM (vd8XM)

30 I'm asking them for the TV remote when I walk in. Otherwise if any of the MSM shows or The View comes on, a size 16 is going at the TV

Posted by: Bruce at February 11, 2023 05:06 AM (vd8XM)

31 Gdiyy!! Is it morning already? I better get to bed. But I won't.

Posted by: yep at February 11, 2023 05:07 AM (6WBZp)

32 I'm asking them for the TV remote when I walk in. Otherwise if any of the MSM shows or The View comes on, a size 16 is going at the TV
Posted by: Bruce at February 11, 2023 05:06 AM (vd8XM)
==-
It will be either CNN or a five-minute loop on sunscreen.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at February 11, 2023 05:09 AM (EZebt)

33 It will be either CNN or a five-minute loop on sunscreen.
Posted by: San Franpsycho

HA!! I hope it's the sunscreen one. In at least 3 different languages.

Posted by: Bruce at February 11, 2023 05:10 AM (vd8XM)

34 Typing this now, I think I'll take my tablet and earplugs along. Might download a couple of movies just in case they don't have free wifi

Posted by: Bruce at February 11, 2023 05:11 AM (vd8XM)

35 Local TV news reports that evidence and material taken from the San Francisco house explosion caused a hazmat incident in Daly City yesterday while being transported to the police crime lab, shutting down nearby freeways and BART tracks. Police refused to say what the specific hazard was.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at February 11, 2023 05:11 AM (EZebt)

36 Meth lab go boom?

Posted by: yep at February 11, 2023 05:14 AM (6WBZp)

37 Police refused to say what the specific hazard was.
Posted by: San Franpsycho

A pair of non-safety scissors?

Posted by: Bruce at February 11, 2023 05:14 AM (vd8XM)

38 Bruce, I had the Mohs surgery about a year ago. Dr got everything in first scrape. Pretty sure I was out of there in 90 mins.

Posted by: olddog in mo at February 11, 2023 05:16 AM (ju2Fy)

39 37 Police refused to say what the specific hazard was.
Posted by: San Franpsycho

A pair of non-safety scissors?

Posted by: Bruce at February 11, 2023 05:14 AM (vd8XM)
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Made in China.

Posted by: Ciampino - bustles are hedging in the rows at February 11, 2023 05:18 AM (qfLjt)

40 Bruce, I had the Mohs surgery about a year ago. Dr got everything in first scrape. Pretty sure I was out of there in 90 mins.
Posted by: olddog in mo

Oh please!!! I'm hoping that's the way for her also. It's not a deep one, but the damn thing has been persistent.

Posted by: Bruce at February 11, 2023 05:20 AM (vd8XM)

41 Bruce, I had the Mohs surgery about a year ago. Dr got everything in first scrape. Pretty sure I was out of there in 90 mins.
Posted by: olddog in mo

I had suggested that she work with me in the yard, invariably I bark my shins, maybe she could too.
She said no.

Posted by: Bruce at February 11, 2023 05:23 AM (vd8XM)

42 > One of the company’s two remaining principal engineers offered a possible explanation for Musk’s declining reach...

Only two? I find that hard to believe.

Posted by: Bitblt at February 11, 2023 05:24 AM (O+SGk)

43 15 Donald Trump rips into Rihanna ahead of her Super Bowl performance saying she has 'NO TALENT' after star spray-painted 'F*** Donald Trump' on a car and told Vogue he was 'the most mentally ill man in America'
https://mol.im/a/11738873
Posted by: Ciampino

The bottom story of the day.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at February 11, 2023 05:26 AM (0chEi)

44 One of the company’s two remaining principal engineers offered a possible explanation for Musk’s declining reach...

Only two? I find that hard to believe.
Posted by: Bitblt

Third engineer suggested that Musk was transforming into a Tyrannosaurus....soon he would need assistance in eating.

Posted by: Bruce at February 11, 2023 05:26 AM (vd8XM)

45 g'mornin' everyone!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - we are being gaslighted 24/365 at February 11, 2023 05:32 AM (XzIdt)

46 I read a little of the Verge article that Pixy linked to.

Them goofy bastards are worried that Musk is actually using his newly purchased toy and seeing what it can do.

Imagine the engineers that gave them this info house on Christmas...okay bad example, they probably don't celebrate Christmas.
ummm. Imagine them on another fun day were presents might be given....oh crap, fun AND presents are a no go too.....

Let me think...

Posted by: Bruce at February 11, 2023 05:32 AM (vd8XM)

47 Okay, the first day of Gay Pride Month(s) Day(s) with the exchanging of the eyeliner.

Always a fun day to try out something new.

Posted by: Bruce at February 11, 2023 05:34 AM (vd8XM)

48 47 Okay, the first day of Gay Pride Month(s) Day(s) with the exchanging of the eyeliner.

Always a fun day to try out something new.

Posted by: Bruce at February 11, 2023 05:34 AM (vd8XM)
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I thought it was 'fluids' .....

Posted by: Ciampino - bustles are hedging in rows at February 11, 2023 05:38 AM (qfLjt)

49 I thought it was 'fluids' .....
Posted by: Ciampino

That comes at the end.

Or on the back

Posted by: Bruce at February 11, 2023 05:39 AM (vd8XM)

50 Yeah meth lab or in that neighborhood more likely a cannabis lab.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at February 11, 2023 05:39 AM (EZebt)

51 Yeah meth lab or in that neighborhood more likely a cannabis lab.
Posted by: San Franpsycho

WHAT!!!! Cannabis good! Not bad, GOOD!!

Posted by: Bruce at February 11, 2023 05:40 AM (vd8XM)

52 37 Police refused to say what the specific hazard was.
Posted by: San Franpsycho

A pair of non-safety scissors?

Posted by: Bruce at February 11, 2023 05:14 AM (vd8XM)
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50 Yeah meth lab or in that neighborhood more likely a cannabis lab.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at February 11, 2023 05:39 AM (EZebt)
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So Lithium or Phosphorus.

Posted by: Ciampino -- bustles are hedging in rows at February 11, 2023 05:42 AM (qfLjt)

53 That's the biggest risk with zero lot line housing. If your neighbor is a criminal or a hazard, if something goes wrong next door, something goes wrong at your house too. There probably would have been casualties in the adjacent home if it had been occupied at the time.

Apparently the whole neighborhood was shattered, broken windows, doors ajar, and fire damage. Aside from the resident who was killed a home health aide was seriously injured but made it out alive.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at February 11, 2023 05:43 AM (EZebt)

54 So Lithium or Phosphorus.
Posted by: Ciampino

What do they use that for?
I'm old, my only experience was limited to ditch weed.
I preferred beer.

Posted by: Bruce at February 11, 2023 05:44 AM (vd8XM)

55 Apparently the whole neighborhood was shattered, broken windows, doors ajar, and fire damage. Aside from the resident who was killed a home health aide was seriously injured but made it out alive.
Posted by: San Franpsycho

Wow. That's some explosion

Posted by: Bruce at February 11, 2023 05:45 AM (vd8XM)

56 I'm so old I remember when Google's ethos was allegedly "don't be evil".
They lost the "don't" somewhere back there.

Posted by: ptschett at February 11, 2023 05:45 AM (zB+vL)

57 That last cartoon in Bad Blue is awesome. I am awed at how the regime has managed to idle vast numbers of the population.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at February 11, 2023 05:47 AM (EZebt)

58 56-Google has always been evil, they just lied.

Posted by: Infidel at February 11, 2023 05:48 AM (5015k)

59
g'mornin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at February 11, 2023 05:48 AM (ENBF0)

60 I'm so old I remember when Google's ethos was allegedly "don't be evil".
They lost the "don't" somewhere back there.
Posted by: ptschett

They couldn't fit the whole thing on a one size fits all baseball hat for the corporate Team Building Weekend

Posted by: Bruce at February 11, 2023 05:49 AM (vd8XM)

61 Wow that last downpour was so strong it woke up Mrs. F.

Now I'm sitting here in the dark quiet listening to the rainwater flow through all the gutters and drains.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at February 11, 2023 05:51 AM (EZebt)

62 Not overly shocked Freinds Schools have Grooming counseling

Posted by: Skip at February 11, 2023 05:57 AM (xhxe8)

63 I am informed that there are no Waffle Houses in Australia.

I see Opportunity

Posted by: Miklos considers the menu items at February 11, 2023 05:57 AM (2hexI)

64 54 So Lithium or Phosphorus.
Posted by: Ciampino

What do they use that for?
I'm old, my only experience was limited to ditch weed.
I preferred beer.

Posted by: Bruce at February 11, 2023 05:44 AM (vd8XM)
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If it was a meth lab then the P is reacted with Iodine,
(pronounced eye o deen, cf Chlorine and Fluorine) to make PI3, needed later. Pseudoephedrine is the starting material. The lithium is used to get a methyl group CH3 via a different method. Lithium will catch fire eventually when exposed to water. Red phosphorus is safe but white phosphorus immediately burns in air when removed from water.

Posted by: Ciampino --- bustles are hedging in rows at February 11, 2023 05:58 AM (qfLjt)

65 Skip I hope the funeral was good for you to go

Posted by: San Franpsycho at February 11, 2023 05:58 AM (EZebt)

66 If it was a meth lab then the P is reacted with Iodine,
(pronounced eye o deen, cf Chlorine and Fluorine) to make PI3, needed later. Pseudoephedrine is the starting material. The lithium is used to get a methyl group CH3 via a different method. Lithium will catch fire eventually when exposed to water. Red phosphorus is safe but white phosphorus immediately burns in air when removed from water.
Posted by: Ciampino --- bustles are hedging in rows at February 11, 2023 05:58 AM (qfLjt)
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This sounds like math. No Math.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at February 11, 2023 05:59 AM (EZebt)

67 "Scattered" or "Smothered" might have an entirely different meaning Down Under.

Posted by: Miklos re-considers the menu items at February 11, 2023 06:01 AM (2hexI)

68 This sounds like math. No Math.
Posted by: San Franpsycho

That's how things go 'sploddy.

I wonder if they have to start a new "Days Worked Without A Loss Time Incident" calendar going?

Posted by: Bruce at February 11, 2023 06:01 AM (vd8XM)

69 I'm not first, but I don't care...

NOOOOOOD!

Posted by: Bruce at February 11, 2023 06:02 AM (vd8XM)

70 nood!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - we are being gaslighted 24/365 at February 11, 2023 06:03 AM (XzIdt)

71 Girl F. is getting married at City Hall on Tuesday because her Ausi fiance has to start his naturalization before the wedding in August.

Furriners.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at February 11, 2023 06:03 AM (EZebt)

72 I invite Skip to my funeral.

You will get a lottery ticket for the condo at Myrtle Beach

Posted by: Miklos will have to pay people to come at February 11, 2023 06:03 AM (2hexI)

73
I've been filling in our family tree during these past few weeks. The branch that originated in Wales, surprisingly, lead to an explosion in its membership numbers. Who knew that those Welsh in America were so given over to reproducing one century ago? Now I am running along a string of Norwegians that go back to a fourth great grandparent, so a possibility exists of me finding a fifth cousin or two in there.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 11, 2023 06:03 AM (pNxlR)

74 I'm not first, but I don't care...

NOOOOOOD!
Posted by: Bruce at February 11, 2023 06:02 AM (vd8XM)

nood!
Posted by: sock

Novdnood

Posted by: Tiny but Strategic at February 11, 2023 06:05 AM (2hexI)

75 Funny how Google is now evil. Now, huh? lmfao

Posted by: just saying at February 11, 2023 08:26 AM (itAo5)

76
"the unnamed engineer needed to be ejected forthwith"

When is the next SpaceX flight? and by ejected, out the airlock?

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at February 11, 2023 08:29 AM (8usCR)

77 It doesn't matter how useful it is to Google. I don't care. It has to be useful to me.

I have altered the terms of the deal. Pray I do not alter them further.

Posted by: Google at February 11, 2023 08:39 AM (a3Q+t)

78 30 I'm asking them for the TV remote when I walk in. Otherwise if any of the MSM shows or The View comes on, a size 16 is going at the TV
Posted by: Bruce at February 11, 2023 05:06 AM (vd8XM)

LOL

Posted by: m at February 11, 2023 08:47 AM (CQE5S)

79 badbluetweets
Top 20 Tweets Tonight: The Democrat Ponzi Party
FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 10, 2023

https://tinyurl.com/5n8zesec

Posted by: m at February 11, 2023 08:55 AM (CQE5S)

80 Does anybody Know how to make windows location finder use star coordinates. My work laptop phones home to something in IT with my location. I have the default set to somewhere in the state, but it will not let me change to alpha centuri.

Posted by: stephanA at February 11, 2023 11:09 AM (q6ZCK)

81 My last month check was for 11000 dollars... Everything I did was basic online work from comfort at home for 3-4 hours/day that I got from this office I found over the web and they paid me for it 95 bucks each hour... Attempt it yourself....

AND GOOD LUCK.

HERE===========)>www.jobsrevenue.com

Posted by: Arthur Herrmann at February 11, 2023 12:57 PM (JDWa+)

82 For those who don't like google be warned. I ordered a 2022 GMC Sierra Elevation and received it in Aug. Did not realize the stereo/infotainment system had Google built into it. It wants a g-mail account and wants your phone connected it. GM is now forcing OnStar on all new purchases for 3 yrs to ensure your stereo has data access. Used to be able to run a thumb drive with music on it and use voice control, no more. I despise google with a white hot passion, I have no g-mail or anything else google/android. Traded the pos on a used pickup a couple weeks ago.

Posted by: SSR at February 11, 2023 02:19 PM (7NmRg)

83 It is possible - and virtually certainly the actual case - for Twitter to be a dysfunctional company riddled with mentally ill activists *and* for Elon Musk to be a terrible boss without any real idea how to fix that.

He already publicly fired an engineer for telling him the honest, provable truth about how the Twitter app interacts with the back end APIs. Musk's management style appears to be "guess what I want to hear, and tell me that or you're fired".

Posted by: Daniel Ream at February 11, 2023 05:57 PM (vaLOp)

84 The opt out telemetry is in the compiler not the runtime. It can't phone home for compiled apps (because it isn't there), but can for anyone who uses the compiler.

Posted by: DocMerlin at February 13, 2023 07:51 AM (jRh4q)

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