New Documentary "Walt's Disinchanted Kingdom" Shows How Disney Stopped Being a Family Brand to Let Its Freak Flags Fly

This comes out today. Where, I don't know.

Turning this into an "Is This Something?" thread: Some good news, apparently this movie I never heard of until yesterday, Plane, is something.


Film Threat and JoBlo both say it's really good, and a throwback to 90s action movies when stories were simple, stunts were practical, and identity politics were absent, apart from the usual action-movie set-up showing people of different races cooperating to kill people of varied races.

They do say the blood splatters are CGI, which I don't like. They do that because it's cheap, and because you can decide in post-production whether to turn those blood splatters down to get a PG-13 or turn them up to get an R. But other than that and the plane crashing, they say it's all practical stuff.

And also, non-superheroic. Semi-plausible action with good amount of brutality.

I got excited when I saw there was a new Liam Neeson Philip Marlowe movie, but got less excited when I heard him talking:

Marlowe doesn't make blunt threats or tell you how tough he is. That's a Mike Hammer thing. Marlowe says he isn't tough, but in a way that you get the sense that he's so tough he can afford to be modest about it. A lot of people say things like, "You think you're pretty tough, don't you?" and he says "Nah, I'm just a pushover" or "I'm as harmless as a kitten in a teacup" with a baiting smile.

Also, he never says things directly and obviously like "Los Angeles, City of Angels. More like 'city of dirty little secrets.'" That's stupid. Marlowe speaks in, let's call it hypobole. Not hyperbole, but the opposite, hypobole. Saying things with extreme understatement so that it takes you a second to figure out what he's saying. He often puts things in the negative to make them even more elusive.

He described "Moose" Malloy, an enormous man, as "no larger than a beer truck." He described someone as "less conspicuous than a tarantula on an angel food cake."

And I can see that Marlowe's a two fisted action hero here. I'll excuse that, because I know every movie has to be at least half an action movie to get made, but Marlowe's big strength wasn't beating people up. It was getting beaten up. Once he decided that a case needed to be solved or that he was on your side, he was willing to get beaten up or even murdered to finish things. It's not that he was a physically unstoppable hero, but a morally unstoppable one: Yes, you could stop him by killing him, but it would take that and only that to stop him.

But like I said, I'll excuse that because I understand that change and frankly I'd like to see him win more fights.

The talking, though. That's non-negotiable.


Ah well, there is a seriously annoying phenomenon of writing crap dialogue just for use in the trailer and I guess I can hold out hope that they wrote some of that blunt stereotypical tough guy talk because how can you tell he's a tough guy unless he straight-up tells you he's one?

Still doesn't sound like Marlowe, though.

I know people like the Powers Booth series that was on HBO 30 years ago but if I remember right, he tended to sound like Mike Hammer there, too.

There's a tradition that heroes are straightforward and direct while villains are flowerly and elusive in their speech, but Marlowe was not that kind of direct, to-the-point hero. Maybe that's why they think that Marlowe has to sound like... Mike Hammer.

I'm not knocking Mike Hammer. I'm just saying, if you call a movie "Poirot," make him Poirot, don't make him Adrian Monk like Kenneth Brannagh did.

The closest I've seen to Marlowe on screen is probably Tom from Miller's Crossing. Like Tom, Marlowe isn't a straight-line kind of guy, he's all bent, a dame would say, nothing but angles and curves.

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1 sponge

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being extravagant with Erich von Stroheim at January 23, 2023 04:32 PM (LvTSG)

2 First

Posted by: Skip at January 23, 2023 04:32 PM (xhxe8)

3 Keep getting that ancient sidetrack

Posted by: Skip at January 23, 2023 04:33 PM (xhxe8)

4 The closest I've seen to Marlowe on screen is probably Tom from Miller's Crossing. Like Tom, Marlowe isn't a straight-line kind of guy, he's all bent, a dame would say, nothing but angles and curves.

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"That's why Lauren loves me, pal."
-Humphrey Bogart

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being extravagant with Erich von Stroheim at January 23, 2023 04:33 PM (LvTSG)

5 Let Disney die by not watching their trash

Posted by: Skip at January 23, 2023 04:34 PM (xhxe8)

6 hiya

Posted by: JT at January 23, 2023 04:35 PM (T4tVD)

7 Well, Disney is going to be raking in cash with Avatar sequels for the next few years. At least their film division will be fine, I guess.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being extravagant with Erich von Stroheim at January 23, 2023 04:35 PM (LvTSG)

8 Sodomites gotta sodomite.

Never go sodomite.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 23, 2023 04:35 PM (yEMHD)

9 Lamont, how could you miss my posts about Plane? It's the horde January non-woke movie!

(Puss In Boots the Last Wish is the December one, but the horde can go watch that one, too...

Posted by: Nova Local at January 23, 2023 04:35 PM (exHjb)

10 Since this is a movie thread and I didn't get to mention it in a previous thread, there is one actor that I never hear talked about much but every time I see him in a movie he's freaking amazing. Villain, hero, comedic foil - he's brilliant no matter the role.

And that actor is one Gene Hackman.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at January 23, 2023 04:35 PM (KbCG3)

11 They deserve to die.

But, that's the left's plan. Take over something that is not serving the cause.

Then it is either turned or destroyed. Either way, they win.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at January 23, 2023 04:35 PM (N1tpc)

12 Too late to channel No Doubt's brilliant titled and diamond-certified 1995 album, "Tragic Kingdom?"

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 23, 2023 04:36 PM (t0OGg)

13 I do like watching Gerard Butler killing the shit out of terrorists and various assorted bad guys on screen. No homo.

Posted by: 300 was not the slightest bit homoerotic, nope, nosirree at January 23, 2023 04:36 PM (s2na+)

14 10 Since this is a movie thread and I didn't get to mention it in a previous thread, there is one actor that I never hear talked about much but every time I see him in a movie he's freaking amazing. Villain, hero, comedic foil - he's brilliant no matter the role.

And that actor is one Gene Hackman.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at January 23, 2023 04:35 PM (KbCG3)

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You'll love his espresso.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being extravagant with Erich von Stroheim at January 23, 2023 04:36 PM (LvTSG)

15 >>>Lamont, how could you miss my posts about Plane? It's the horde January non-woke movie

I dunno, I just missed them. I'm a Big Dummy. the Name at the top of the post should have told you.

Posted by: Lamont the Big Dummy at January 23, 2023 04:36 PM (C1Zwz)

16 I'm not knocking Mike Hammer. I'm just saying, if you call a movie "Poirot," make him Poirot, don't make him Adrian Monk like Kenneth Brannagh did.
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Does not compute

Posted by: Hollywood Studio NPC at January 23, 2023 04:37 PM (t0OGg)

17 Very disenchanted

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at January 23, 2023 04:37 PM (XvPQV)

18 Lamont, how could you miss my posts about Plane? It's the horde January non-woke movie!

Posted by: Nova Local at January 23, 2023 04:35 PM (exHjb)

Good to know! I like Gerard Butler.

Posted by: Jordan61 at January 23, 2023 04:38 PM (DRSnL)

19 15 >>>Lamont, how could you miss my posts about Plane? It's the horde January non-woke movie

I dunno, I just missed them. I'm a Big Dummy. the Name at the top of the post should have told you.
Posted by: Lamont the Big Dummy at January 23, 2023 04:36 PM (C1Zwz)

I don't know - in the ventriloquist act, the dummy also says the smartest stuff...

Posted by: Nova Local at January 23, 2023 04:38 PM (exHjb)

20 All three sound like possible fun.

Now this is something: "Sacrificing Liberty" (2020) is now out from behind the $13 paywall and available free on YT:
youtube.com/watch?v=5JeXq0wlEkw

Four hour doc about the 1967 USS Liberty incident, narrated mainly by the survivors. I give this a 10 out of 10. Must see, especially now that most of us have found ourselves "through the looking glass."

Posted by: gp Fails To Gain Function at January 23, 2023 04:38 PM (24fqN)

21 17 Very disenchanted
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at January 23, 2023 04:37 PM (XvPQV)

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I heard Disenchanted was not very good.

Also, has anyone else noticed that Phase IV of the MCU is done? The new Ant-Man is the start of Phase V.

Every phase until IV ended with a big Avengers movie. IV just...stopped. That's odd, no?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being extravagant with Erich von Stroheim at January 23, 2023 04:38 PM (LvTSG)

22 Gosh, what good is having all those innocent, sexy kids come to the park if we're not going to corrupt and sexually pervert them? That would be the ultimate cock/front-hole tease!

Posted by: Disney Executives at January 23, 2023 04:39 PM (JCZqz)

23 Disney? Neeeeever heard of it.

Posted by: Gen. Pinkley at January 23, 2023 04:39 PM (ik/65)

24 Chris Gore of Film Threat, "You can No longer trust your kids with Disney" he's 100% right.

Strange Wold, Gay Story line

Light Year, Gay characters for no reason

Owl House, the Main Character is gay and has a relationship with her fellow classmate,

Canceled my subscription and built my own Server with Content I approve, I use Synology and EMBY (Plex) to stream the shows in my House.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 23, 2023 04:39 PM (dKiJG)

25 12 Too late to channel No Doubt's brilliant titled and diamond-certified 1995 album, "Tragic Kingdom?"
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 23, 2023 04:36 PM (t0OGg)

Ah, oldies!

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at January 23, 2023 04:39 PM (PiwSw)

26 Vice proves, yet again, they're a complete joke.

https://bit.ly/3wuXDuB

Posted by: bonhomme at January 23, 2023 04:39 PM (eyxn4)

27 And Lamont feels the same way I do about Marlowe.
I want to feel hope but it looks like they screwed up the writing and dialog and that's the ONE thing you can't fuck up on a Chandler film.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at January 23, 2023 04:39 PM (XvPQV)

28 Send Us Thine Asteroid, O Lord

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at January 23, 2023 04:40 PM (llON8)

29 I'd watch Plane for free but wouldn't pay to see it. That was more or less true back when movies like Plane were par for the course too. No interest in Marlowe. Though I'm sort of thankful someone distracted Liam from making yet another Taken movie. Disney. Don't care.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at January 23, 2023 04:40 PM (ppBhU)

30 The opposite of hyperbole is litotes (LYE-toe-tees).

Posted by: goddessoftheclassroom at January 23, 2023 04:40 PM (goJt/)

31 Old Disney: Let's give the kids something to laugh about

New Disney: Let's give the kids something from our pants

Posted by: 18-1 at January 23, 2023 04:40 PM (lc5cP)

32 Predator is the perfect movie.

Posted by: Mr. Anderson at January 23, 2023 04:40 PM (VPBcc)

33 "Strange Wold, Gay Story line
Light Year, Gay characters for no reason
Owl House, the Main Character is gay and has a relationship with her fellow classmate,"

Dozens of movies over the decades pushing witchcraft and occult.

Posted by: gp Fails To Gain Function at January 23, 2023 04:40 PM (24fqN)

34 Liam Neeson is a bit old to play Marlowe, but maybe this is late in his career or something. And yeah Marlowe was street literary, he was a good guy who dealt with terrible things without them rubbing off on him. he kept his integrity and did what was right (aside from loveless boning of some girl every book) no matter what it cost him.

He had a lip, he was sarcastic and no respecter of title or persons; he'd treat everyone the same, even the bad guys. He had respect, but it only went so far. Marlowe was incredibly brilliant but he never showed off, he just used it in the job.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2023 04:40 PM (0hOvj)

35 "Plane" looks super cool. Trailers can't be trusted, but I'm optimistic that there might be a movie I want to see.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 23, 2023 04:40 PM (t0OGg)

36 who is Lamont???

Posted by: runner at January 23, 2023 04:40 PM (Aoizk)

37 Okay I guess you're away for a day or 2 and nothing makes sense. Who the hell is Lamont?

Posted by: jewells45 fuck cancer at January 23, 2023 04:40 PM (nxdel)

38 36 who is Lamont???
Posted by: runner at January 23, 2023 04:40 PM (Aoizk)

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The fifth regeneration.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being extravagant with Erich von Stroheim at January 23, 2023 04:41 PM (LvTSG)

39 I want to see that Gerard movie.

Love that kind of stuff.

Posted by: Seems Legit at January 23, 2023 04:41 PM (DcKNO)

40 Also, has anyone else noticed that Phase IV of the MCU is done? The new Ant-Man is the start of Phase V.

Every phase until IV ended with a big Avengers movie. IV just...stopped. That's odd, no?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being extravagant with Erich von Stroheim at January 23, 2023 04:38 PM (LvTSG)

Phase IV was that unpopular. No one would have gone to watch a team up with that crew, especially with Spidey (Tom Holland) not available to film it...

Posted by: Nova Local at January 23, 2023 04:41 PM (exHjb)

41 It's weird how Disney managed to go from a family place to an anti-family without any stop in between.

Posted by: N.Lurker at January 23, 2023 04:41 PM (eGTCV)

42 So do the people that believe "AR-15" means assault rifle also think that an 'AK-47" is an assault kitten?

Posted by: 18-1 at January 23, 2023 04:41 PM (lc5cP)

43 Seriously, who dat??

Posted by: runner at January 23, 2023 04:41 PM (Aoizk)

44 13 I do like watching Gerard Butler killing the shit out of terrorists and various assorted bad guys on screen. No homo.
Posted by: 300 was not the slightest bit homoerotic, nope, nosirree at January 23, 2023

I read that he signed on to do more of the FALLEN movies and it deals with when he was in the Military

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 23, 2023 04:41 PM (dKiJG)

45 Vice proves, yet again, they're a complete joke.

https://bit.ly/3wuXDuB
Posted by: bonhomme at January 23, 2023 04:39 PM (eyxn4)
++++
Oy vey.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 23, 2023 04:42 PM (t0OGg)

46 Raymond Chandler's Phillip Marlowe is not like Mickey Spillane's Mike Hammer. While both tough PIs, they were very different in approach and temperament. Don't protray them as being the same.

Best Marlowe's were Robert Mitchum in Farewell My Lovely and Powers Booth. Liam Neeson is as bad a Marlowe as George Lazenby being James Bond.

Posted by: Zogger at January 23, 2023 04:42 PM (fH4br)

47 I'll tell you what movie I *won't* be seeing: the new M Night Shamalamadingdong movie with the gay couple and their adopted Asian daughter.

Posted by: Jordan61 at January 23, 2023 04:42 PM (DRSnL)

48
Phase IV was that unpopular. No one would have gone to watch a team up with that crew, especially with Spidey (Tom Holland) not available to film it...

Lady Thor, She Hulk, and Captain Karen weren't filling seats?

I'm shocked.

Posted by: 18-1 at January 23, 2023 04:42 PM (lc5cP)

49 40 Phase IV was that unpopular. No one would have gone to watch a team up with that crew, especially with Spidey (Tom Holland) not available to film it...
Posted by: Nova Local at January 23, 2023 04:41 PM (exHjb)

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But it takes years to get a film into production. 3 years from spec script to final cut, especially at that scale. IV was planned to just...stop with a whimper?

It's so odd.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being extravagant with Erich von Stroheim at January 23, 2023 04:42 PM (LvTSG)

50 >>> The opposite of hyperbole is litotes (LYE-toe-tees).

oh, thank you.

Posted by: Lamont the Big Dummy at January 23, 2023 04:42 PM (C1Zwz)

51 Liam is a favorite of mine.
He was awesome in The Ballad of Buster Scruggs, Taken, et al. the list is lengthy.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at January 23, 2023 04:42 PM (jTmQV)

52 29 I'd watch Plane for free but wouldn't pay to see it. That was more or less true back when movies like Plane were par for the course too. No interest in Marlowe. Though I'm sort of thankful someone distracted Liam from making yet another Taken movie. Disney. Don't care.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at January 23, 2023 04:40 PM (ppBhU)

It's a perfect matinee or cheap Tuesday movie. It's a soft R, so it's not that gory and there aren't more than a few F bombs...and it's thrilling, both in the plane and island scenes (and yes, some fight scenes are brutal, as is some of the "no, you idiot, don't do that" on the plane)...

Yes, it drags a little a few times...but some of it is awesome to see on screen...

Posted by: Nova Local at January 23, 2023 04:42 PM (exHjb)

53 Also, has anyone else noticed that Phase IV of the MCU is done? The new Ant-Man is the start of Phase V.

Phase 4 was a huge dud. Not just because the movies were generally terrible but because they didn't go anywhere or do anything. They had no central concept or plot, they didn't take the story anywhere, and almost all the characters they introduced were duds.

The best description I heard of it was that it was like someone doing all the side quests in an adventure game, after doing the main quest. Sure, they don't have much treasure or storyline but they get you xps.

And I really don't give a crap WHAT Marvel does next.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2023 04:43 PM (0hOvj)

54 48 Lady Thor, She Hulk, and Captain Karen weren't filling seats?

I'm shocked.
Posted by: 18-1 at January 23, 2023 04:42 PM (lc5cP)

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Black Panther 2 is making half the money of the first Black Panther.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being extravagant with Erich von Stroheim at January 23, 2023 04:43 PM (LvTSG)

55 who is Lamont???
Posted by: runner at January 23, 2023 04:40 PM (Aoizk)

Okay I guess you're away for a day or 2 and nothing makes sense. Who the hell is Lamont?
Posted by: jewells45 fuck cancer at January 23, 2023 04:40 PM (nxdel)

See the sidebar. But I missed the part where Ace was an idiot.

Posted by: Jordan61 at January 23, 2023 04:43 PM (DRSnL)

56 I do like watching Gerard Butler killing the shit out of terrorists and various assorted bad guys on screen. No homo.

Maybe this is one thing we can actually share you bitter clingers

Posted by: Barack Obama watching 300 in slow mo at January 23, 2023 04:43 PM (lc5cP)

57 Adrian Monk

Such a great show. Cheesy at times, but family-friendly and solid detective work. "It's a gift... and a curse" is still one of my favorite lines.

Posted by: pookysgirl can relate with the obsesive-compulsive detective at January 23, 2023 04:43 PM (XKZwp)

58 who is Lamont???

Demond Wilson

Posted by: Blanco Basura at January 23, 2023 04:43 PM (Bd6X8)

59 Plane's structure looks a lot like that great Vin Diesel movie Pitch Black.

So far, so good.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at January 23, 2023 04:43 PM (/iWhV)

60 Short Plane review - Plane is men, doing men stuff, and doing it in men ways...

Posted by: Nova Local at January 23, 2023 04:43 PM (exHjb)

61 53 The best description I heard of it was that it was like someone doing all the side quests in an adventure game, after doing the main quest. Sure, they don't have much treasure or storyline but they get you xps.

And I really don't give a crap WHAT Marvel does next.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2023 04:43 PM (0hOvj)

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Plus the half-dozen television series.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being extravagant with Erich von Stroheim at January 23, 2023 04:44 PM (LvTSG)

62 I confuse Marlowe and Sam Spade.

Posted by: N.Lurker at January 23, 2023 04:44 PM (eGTCV)

63 47 I'll tell you what movie I *won't* be seeing: the new M Night Shamalamadingdong movie with the gay couple and their adopted Asian daughter.
Posted by: Jordan61 at January 23, 2023 04:42 PM (DRSnL)

They're letting him make another movie after "After Earth?" Wow.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at January 23, 2023 04:44 PM (PiwSw)

64 Disney World has had gay day for decades now. Should have been the first red flag.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 23, 2023 04:44 PM (3gh+6)

65 Movies that got Marlowe right: The Big Sleep with Bogart, Murder my Sweet with Dick Powell. Powell is particularly good at being a smug, know it all prick...because Marlowe was a smug, know it all prick. But both actor interpretations have that underlayer of toughness under the snappy comebacks.

Also The Big Sleep cheated by hiring Chandler to write the screenplay.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at January 23, 2023 04:44 PM (XvPQV)

66 In which thread did ace convert lamont? I needs a backstory.

Posted by: runner at January 23, 2023 04:44 PM (Aoizk)

67 >>>Best Marlowe's were Robert Mitchum in Farewell My Lovely

yeah he was good in that. Good looking movie, too. Unfortunately the story isn't the best. Not the movie's fault, the book's story was so-so as well. The movie was faithful.

Posted by: Lamont the Big Dummy at January 23, 2023 04:44 PM (C1Zwz)

68 59 Plane's structure looks a lot like that great Vin Diesel movie Pitch Black.

So far, so good.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at January 23, 2023 04:43 PM (/iWhV)

I thought that too.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at January 23, 2023 04:44 PM (PiwSw)

69 63 47 I'll tell you what movie I *won't* be seeing: the new M Night Shamalamadingdong movie with the gay couple and their adopted Asian daughter.
Posted by: Jordan61 at January 23, 2023 04:42 PM (DRSnL)

They're letting him make another movie after "After Earth?" Wow.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at January 23, 2023 04:44 PM (PiwSw)

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He's made about 4 after that. He's self-financed almost all of them.

He's now a very rich man.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being extravagant with Erich von Stroheim at January 23, 2023 04:44 PM (LvTSG)

70 >>> Powell is particularly good at being a smug, know it all prick...because Marlowe was a smug, know it all prick.

oh i still haven't seen that one.

Posted by: Lamont the Big Dummy at January 23, 2023 04:44 PM (C1Zwz)

71 65 Also The Big Sleep cheated by hiring Chandler to write the screenplay.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at January 23, 2023 04:44 PM (XvPQV)

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"I have no idea what goes on in this thing."
-Chandler, reviewing The Big Sleep

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being extravagant with Erich von Stroheim at January 23, 2023 04:45 PM (LvTSG)

72 The first movie I saw Gerald Butler was in the movie Timeline. The movie version of the Michael Crichton book with the same title.

Posted by: Beartooth at January 23, 2023 04:45 PM (Ost2s)

73 Back in the late 50s and early 60s we kids were glued to the TV set on Sunday night to watch Walt Disney and his show.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at January 23, 2023 04:45 PM (uNylN)

74 >>>62 I confuse Marlowe and Sam Spade.

they're a bit similar. Chandler took Hammett's stories as his model.

Posted by: Lamont the Big Dummy at January 23, 2023 04:45 PM (C1Zwz)

75 They're letting him make another movie after "After Earth?" Wow.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at January 23, 2023 04:44 PM (PiwSw)
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Didn't his self-financed "Unbreakable" semi-sequels happen after "After Earth?"

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 23, 2023 04:45 PM (t0OGg)

76 Shamalan, one movie wonder.

Posted by: runner at January 23, 2023 04:45 PM (Aoizk)

77 who is Lamont???

Governor of Connecticut. Was a meme in 2006 when he ran for Senate against Joe Lieberman.

Posted by: Ian S. at January 23, 2023 04:46 PM (X4R3E)

78 Disney's business model has always been to induce kids to pester their parents to spend money on Disney-branded crap.

Posted by: gp Fails To Gain Function at January 23, 2023 04:46 PM (24fqN)

79 IMHO Miller's Crossing is the Coen Brothers best movie. A very underrated gangster pick

Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 23, 2023 04:46 PM (D4TsQ)

80 The first movie I saw Gerald Butler was in the movie Timeline. The movie version of the Michael Crichton book with the same title.
Posted by: Beartooth at January 23, 2023 04:45 PM (Ost2s)
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Was the movie as indifferent and non-compelling as the book?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 23, 2023 04:46 PM (t0OGg)

81 Black Panther 2 is making half the money of the first Black Panther.

Well, she is a woman

Posted by: Aunt Esther at January 23, 2023 04:46 PM (og5mY)

82 63 47 I'll tell you what movie I *won't* be seeing: the new M Night Shamalamadingdong movie with the gay couple and their adopted Asian daughter.
Posted by: Jordan61 at January 23, 2023 04:42 PM (DRSnL)

They're letting him make another movie after "After Earth?" Wow.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at January 23, 2023 04:44 PM (PiwSw)

He self-finances and makes all the money, good or bad...

Posted by: Nova Local at January 23, 2023 04:46 PM (exHjb)

83 After sitting through Old, I'm not watching another M. Night Shamwow movie unless that guy sends me a check the aggravation in advance.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at January 23, 2023 04:46 PM (ppBhU)

84 75 They're letting him make another movie after "After Earth?" Wow.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at January 23, 2023 04:44 PM (PiwSw)
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Didn't his self-financed "Unbreakable" semi-sequels happen after "After Earth?"
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 23, 2023 04:45 PM (t0OGg)

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I think The Visit was funded by Blumhouse, but he self-financed Split, Glass, and Old (as well as the new one coming out).

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being extravagant with Erich von Stroheim at January 23, 2023 04:46 PM (LvTSG)

85 62 I confuse Marlowe and Sam Spade.
Posted by: N.Lurker at January 23, 2023 04:44 PM (eGTCV)

They're very different cats, as Hamett and Chandler were different. But it's a common mistake.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at January 23, 2023 04:46 PM (XvPQV)

86 Willowed: Short skirt and a tight sweater.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 23, 2023

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*takes envelope from forehead*

What Dolley was wearing on our first date...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being extravagant with Erich von Stroheim at January 23, 2023

***
Heh. On our second date, Mrs. Wolfus No. 2-to-be asked if I was after her body. In those exact words. I said, 'Hell, yes." That took some of the stress out of things, I tell ya. . . .

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 23, 2023 04:46 PM (J2vNu)

87 > So do the people that believe "AR-15" means assault rifle also think that an 'AK-47" is an assault kitten?

I see this assertion a lot, but I rarely actually see leftists claim AR-15 stands for "assault rifle."

Usually they just assert that it was designed as a weapon of war, that it's the weapon of choice for school shooters, that it's "high powered" etc.

Something they do claim that is absolutely hilarious is that the AR-15 is useless for hunting because it blows apart the meat and the little that's left is inedible. Oh, they also love to claim they kick like mules.

Posted by: bonhomme at January 23, 2023 04:46 PM (eyxn4)

88 41 It's weird how Disney managed to go from a family place to an anti-family without any stop in between.
Posted by: N.Lurker at January 23, 2023 04:41 PM (eGTCV)

Disney found that childless couples spend more money at Disney than Families do, so they are catering to them and not families.

I Loved going to Disney and Meeting up with my Brother and his family, many good memories but no more, It's too expensive and they nickel and dime you to death.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 23, 2023 04:47 PM (dKiJG)

89 Just now realized you guys aren't talking about Heart of Darkness. This is good.

Posted by: gp Fails To Gain Function at January 23, 2023 04:47 PM (24fqN)

90 Liam Neeson ?
Gun control boy Liam Neeson ?



Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at January 23, 2023 04:47 PM (hNrFP)

91 81 Black Panther 2 is making half the money of the first Black Panther.

Well, she is a woman
Posted by: Aunt Esther at January 23, 2023 04:46 PM (og5mY)

ISWYDT

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at January 23, 2023 04:47 PM (XvPQV)

92 I don't know the Marlowe character, so I have no idea what being true to the character would mean.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 23, 2023 04:48 PM (t0OGg)

93 81 Black Panther 2 is making half the money of the first Black Panther.

Well, she is a woman
Posted by: Aunt Esther at January 23, 2023 04:46 PM (og5mY)

This comment could be sidebar-worthy.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at January 23, 2023 04:48 PM (/iWhV)

94 Something they do claim that is absolutely hilarious is that the AR-15 is useless for hunting because it blows apart the meat and the little that's left is inedible. Oh, they also love to claim they kick like mules.
Posted by: bonhomme at January 23, 2023 04:46 PM (eyxn4)


Well, for some of us, they do.

Posted by: That general, who must have had the upper-body strength of a six-year-old girl at January 23, 2023 04:48 PM (PiwSw)

95 Heh, I saw the name 'Mercedes Schlapp' as appearing in that Disney doc. Opps.
And is that Disney doc something? Nope, none of these documentaries are something anymore.

Posted by: lowandslow at January 23, 2023 04:48 PM (76Foq)

96 I liked Robert Altman's film of "The Long Goodbye."

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at January 23, 2023 04:48 PM (cq4C8)

97 There's a tradition that heroes are straightforward and direct while villains are flowerly and elusive in their speech

You mean like when Marlowe says: "The cheaper the hood, the gaudier the patter"? in response to Wilmer Cook's Keep on riding me and they're gonna be picking iron out of your liver.

Posted by: Archimedes at January 23, 2023 04:48 PM (eOEVl)

98 79 IMHO Miller's Crossing is the Coen Brothers best movie. A very underrated gangster pick
Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 23, 2023 04:46 PM (D4TsQ)

It's really good. It's basically 'The Glass Key' made a little meaner, a little more bitter and lot prettier.

Endorsed.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at January 23, 2023 04:48 PM (XvPQV)

99 47 I'll tell you what movie I *won't* be seeing: the new M Night Shamalamadingdong movie with the gay couple and their adopted Asian daughter.
Posted by: Jordan61 at January 23, 2023 04:42 PM (DRSnL)


Maybe I don't understand enough from the trailer, but this one seems awfully obvious. If someone has to die to save the earth, the dad is going to volunteer. This doesn't seem very suspenseful, once you get past the obvious "Why our family?" and "Are you sure this will stop things?"

Posted by: Wally at January 23, 2023 04:48 PM (FJYfm)

100 >>>57 Adrian Monk

Such a great show. Cheesy at times, but family-friendly and solid detective work. "It's a gift... and a curse" is still one of my favorite lines.

i signed up for BritBox just to watch Jonathan Creek. He's a designer of illusions for a stage magician, so his special skill is that he can see through deceptions and fakery and false alibis, etc. The mysteries are always convoluted locked room puzzles or that kind of "impossible crime" situation. They're not very plausible -- why would you kill someone like this? -- and they're contrived but sometimes they're pretty good and I always like guessing them.

Kind of a three-quarters recommendation if you like Monk's style of mystery, which also tended to be "impossible crimes."

Posted by: Lamont the Big Dummy at January 23, 2023 04:49 PM (C1Zwz)

101 I watched Kiss of Death with Victor Mature this weekend. I had no idea that the 1995 Kiss of Death was a remake. The Richard Widmark mobster character was a trip. I think Johnny Depp must have used his smile and affect for his Willie Wonka character. If not, it's a hell of a coincidence.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 23, 2023 04:49 PM (3gh+6)

102 He's made about 4 after that. He's self-financed almost all of them.

He's now a very rich man.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being extravagant with Erich von Stroheim at January 23, 2023 04:44 PM (LvTSG)

Split was good.

Posted by: Jordan61 at January 23, 2023 04:49 PM (DRSnL)

103 In other movie news, Francis Ford Coppola is in the middle of filming his first film in over a decade, a script he's been working on since the early 70s called Megalopolis.

He sold large stakes of his winery to self-fund it (about $120 million).

There are rumors of discord on set (including affirmed reports that he fired his entire special effects team a month ago), but Adam Driver insists things are going fine. I'm looking forward to it. Coppola was always more interesting than either Spielberg or Lucas.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being extravagant with Erich von Stroheim at January 23, 2023 04:49 PM (LvTSG)

104 I Loved going to Disney and Meeting up with my Brother and his family, many good memories but no more, It's too expensive and they nickel and dime you to death.

More like $20 and $100 to death, but I take your point.

Posted by: Archimedes at January 23, 2023 04:50 PM (eOEVl)

105 In my mind Spade was notable for his coldness in pursuing the murderer--for instance sending a woman he may have loved to jail for murdering his partner.

Posted by: N.Lurker at January 23, 2023 04:50 PM (eGTCV)

106 they're a bit similar. Chandler took Hammett's stories as his model.

Yeah. Hammett is less literary, more street, and just a little bit bent -- he's not a criminal but he's not above bending the law and lying or covering up if he thinks its a good cause. And he was having an affair with his partner's wife, and every other woman he could manage to attract.

But both of them had a line they wouldn't cross, and would do anything no matter how painful if they felt it had to be done. Both of them dealt with crooked, nasty people without becoming corrupted themselves. There are a lot of similiarities.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2023 04:50 PM (0hOvj)

107 The moll had it in for him in ya see? He was like a mouse to cheese, then BAM! Curtains!

Posted by: LetsTalkLikeFilmNoire at January 23, 2023 04:50 PM (ssESX)

108 99 47 I'll tell you what movie I *won't* be seeing: the new M Night Shamalamadingdong movie with the gay couple and their adopted Asian daughter.
Posted by: Jordan61 at January 23, 2023 04:42 PM (DRSnL)


Maybe I don't understand enough from the trailer, but this one seems awfully obvious. If someone has to die to save the earth, the dad is going to volunteer. This doesn't seem very suspenseful, once you get past the obvious "Why our family?" and "Are you sure this will stop things?"
Posted by: Wally at January 23, 2023 04:48 PM (FJYfm)

You are thinking like a right-thinking person, not a woke one...

Posted by: Nova Local at January 23, 2023 04:50 PM (exHjb)

109 Marlowe wasn't 70 years old either, he was 35 years old.

Posted by: lowandslow at January 23, 2023 04:50 PM (76Foq)

110 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being extravagant with Erich von Stroheim at January 23, 2023 04:49 PM (LvTSG

His wine is excellent for the price.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 23, 2023 04:50 PM (3gh+6)

111 "Oh, they also love to claim they kick like mules.
Posted by: bonhomme at January 23, 2023 04:46 PM (eyxn4) "

Well, they can now buy the Olympus Arms Recoiless AR10. So there's that.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 23, 2023 04:50 PM (8Voqu)

112 92 I don't know the Marlowe character, so I have no idea what being true to the character would mean.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 23, 2023 04:48 PM (t0OGg)

Joe if you have the time, pick up the Chandler novels. They're written well, just lovely prose. Plot....eh. Shaky at times. But if you're ok with just focusing on the words, they're golden books.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at January 23, 2023 04:50 PM (XvPQV)

113 65 Movies that got Marlowe right: The Big Sleep with Bogart, Murder my Sweet with Dick Powell. Powell is particularly good at being a smug, know it all prick...because Marlowe was a smug, know it all prick. But both actor interpretations have that underlayer of toughness under the snappy comebacks.

Martha Vickers was hot.

Posted by: Aunt Esther at January 23, 2023 04:50 PM (og5mY)

114 Split was good.

Posted by: Jordan61 at January 23, 2023 04:49 PM (DRSnL)

He got somewhat lucky with those. He got Bruce Willis while he could still act, and picked James McAvoy and Anya Taylor-Joy who are two of the better actors around now

Posted by: 18-1 at January 23, 2023 04:51 PM (lc5cP)

115 I read a review that gave Plane a 2/4, so I'll skip and read a book.

Is it racist to say I'm tired of almost every action movie hero being black?

12 percent of population but they're everywhere on screen.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at January 23, 2023 04:51 PM (KiBMU)

116 There's a line from Pirates OTC 2.

Swann: Someday you'll get an opportunity to be a hero.
Sparrow: I love moments like that. I like to wave at them as they pass me by.

I swear that it is a riff on a film-noir line, but I don't remember.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 23, 2023 04:51 PM (44ww/)

117 Chuy El Grande Estupido

Es muy bueno Hollywood no necesitan sus dolares.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at January 23, 2023 04:51 PM (u4CEu)

118 >>>eah. Hammett is less literary, more street, and just a little bit bent -- he's not a criminal but he's not above bending the law and lying or covering up if he thinks its a good cause.

Chandler added the whole "a knight of a lost age in a fallen world" thing, whereas Hammett's heroes were just cynical. Marlowe's cynicism is of the poisoned romantic kind.

Posted by: Lamont the Big Dummy at January 23, 2023 04:51 PM (C1Zwz)

119 103 In other movie news, Francis Ford Coppola is in the middle of filming his first film in over a decade, a script he's been working on since the early 70s called Megalopolis.

He sold large stakes of his winery to self-fund it (about $120 million).

There are rumors of discord on set (including affirmed reports that he fired his entire special effects team a month ago), but Adam Driver insists things are going fine. I'm looking forward to it. Coppola was always more interesting than either Spielberg or Lucas.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being extravagant with Erich von Stroheim at January 23, 2023 04:49 PM (LvTSG)

In his biography George Lucas: A Life, George Lucas described himself as a craftsman, not an artist. I'd say that was a very accurate assessment. Coppola is an artist.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at January 23, 2023 04:51 PM (/iWhV)

120 The Catholic League documentary on Disney, “Walt’s Disenchanted Kingdom,” is now available. It can be accessed on the Catholic League website and SalemNOW; it will be available shortly on Amazon Prime. We will also sell DVDs.

https://tinyurl.com/mf4p56ct

Posted by: redridinghood at January 23, 2023 04:51 PM (NpAcC)

121 115 I read a review that gave Plane a 2/4, so I'll skip and read a book.

Is it racist to say I'm tired of almost every action movie hero being black?

12 percent of population but they're everywhere on screen.
Posted by: Mr Gaga at January 23, 2023 04:51 PM (KiBMU)

Ummm, if you watch the movie, the true hero is the white guy...the black guy is the support character...

Posted by: Nova Local at January 23, 2023 04:52 PM (exHjb)

122 Mitten's ear was bothering her today. Man oh man is it ever hard to find a same-day vet appointment these days. Veterinarians are scarce now. Anyway, it was just yeast, and she's fine.

Posted by: gp Fails To Gain Function at January 23, 2023 04:52 PM (24fqN)

123 > Disney World has had gay day for decades now. Should have been the first red flag.

I hate the mouse about as much as you guys, but this accusation is silly.

A bunch of gay activists decided to have a gay day at Disney.
Disney is open to just about anyone who will pay the fee, as long as you're generally behaving yourself, they're not going to tell you not to come.
Disney also recognized a lot of families don't want to attend during gay day, so they started low key warning people who scheduled their vacation during gay day.

It was NOT a Disney initiated or sponsored event.

Posted by: bonhomme at January 23, 2023 04:52 PM (eyxn4)

124 It's really good. It's basically 'The Glass Key' made a little meaner, a little more bitter and lot prettier.

Yeah. I would love to see The Glass Key as well as several other Hammett books put onto the screen well, because they're damned good. But Miller's Crossing was close and very well done. When the Coen brothers do it right, they REALLY get it right. Their earlier stuff in particular.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2023 04:52 PM (0hOvj)

125 Walt Disney doesn't even give good head.

Posted by: Foreigner at January 23, 2023 04:52 PM (LaNzR)

126 IMDb.com says Marlowe is based upon the 2014 novel "The Black-Eyed Blonde" by Benjamin Black, not one of Raymond Chandler's original Marlowe works. So it depends on whether Black got the tone and dialog right, and whether the screenwriters here get it right.

Neeson's not a bad Marlowe, physically. Remember, in the mid-'40s he was considered a pretty good-looking guy by some of the women he met, esp. in Farewell My Lovely, the second one and the one Ace quotes the hypoboles from.

Part of the flavor will depend on whether they get the clothes and fedoras right.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 23, 2023 04:52 PM (J2vNu)

127 We really enjoyed Plane. Good popcorn action flick.

Posted by: Gouverneur Morris at January 23, 2023 04:52 PM (H3zk+)

128 119 In his biography George Lucas: A Life, George Lucas described himself as a craftsman, not an artist. I'd say that was a very accurate assessment. Coppola is an artist.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at January 23, 2023 04:51 PM (/iWhV)

========

Coppola would have been a king in early Hollywood as an executive at a place like RKO.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being extravagant with Erich von Stroheim at January 23, 2023 04:52 PM (LvTSG)

129 >>>
Joe if you have the time, pick up the Chandler novels. They're written well, just lovely prose. Plot....eh. Shaky at times. But if you're ok with just focusing on the words, they're golden books.

the first one has a pretty strong plot. To be honest, they're all downhill from the first one. I guess "The Long Goodbye" is often considered the best one but I still like The Big Sleep the best.

Posted by: Lamont the Big Dummy at January 23, 2023 04:52 PM (C1Zwz)

130 81 Black Panther 2 is making half the money of the first Black Panther.

Well, she is a woman
Posted by: Aunt Esther at January 23, 2023 04:46 PM (og5mY)
===

That's not fair it should make 73% as much. Damn Patricacy.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at January 23, 2023 04:52 PM (u4CEu)

131 The sidebar doesn't explain why Ace is calling himself Lamont the Dummy.

Posted by: jewells45 fuck cancer at January 23, 2023 04:53 PM (nxdel)

132 The opposite of hyperbole is litotes (LYE-toe-tees). Posted by: goddessoftheclassroom at January 23, 2023 04:40 PM (goJt/)

They went extinct during the Younger Dryas glaciation, them and the glyptodonts and the gomphotheres.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 23, 2023 04:53 PM (xhaym)

133 you guys surely know that Lamont was gay right?

https://tinyurl.com/ypcuu8wh

Posted by: Ethan Saunders at January 23, 2023 04:53 PM (W1E3x)

134 I watched the 1980's version of Red Dawn this last weekend.


I guilty pleasure. Directed by John Milius (screenplay also).


Wolverines!

Posted by: Archer at January 23, 2023 04:53 PM (gmo/4)

135 Finally, we get to talk about movies.

Posted by: spindrift at January 23, 2023 04:53 PM (h5TKJ)

136 Predator during Christmas time would be bussin.

Posted by: Mr. Anderson at January 23, 2023 04:54 PM (VPBcc)

137 I liked Archer Noir.

Posted by: N.Lurker at January 23, 2023 04:54 PM (eGTCV)

138 The sidebar doesn't explain why Ace is calling himself Lamont the Dummy.

Posted by: jewells45 fuck cancer at January 23, 2023 04:53 PM (nxdel)
---
He doesn't think it's fair that libs get to say all the dumb stuff.

Posted by: Axeman at January 23, 2023 04:54 PM (OaZlZ)

139 "The sidebar doesn't explain why Ace is calling himself Lamont the Dummy."

Ace is touchy about the sidebar, so caution.

Posted by: gp Fails To Gain Function at January 23, 2023 04:54 PM (24fqN)

140 >>>131 The sidebar doesn't explain why Ace is calling himself Lamont the Dummy.

I got swindled by a video in Friday's cafe, thinking it showed a Mexican sugar skull being made when it was just being boiled down in a frying pan, and then run in reverse, as 496 figured out. I felt like a Big Dummy, so now I'm Lamont the Big Dummy for the week.

Posted by: Lamont the Big Dummy at January 23, 2023 04:54 PM (C1Zwz)

141 Plot....eh. Shaky at times. But if you're ok with just focusing on the words, they're golden books.

Chandler didn't really care that much about the mystery, that was just an excuse to put his character into the world and see how it played out. If you're just along for the ride, its magnificent. If you're the kind that is really fixed on the mystery its going to be a rough ride.

Hammett was a damned good plotter and he was great with words and dialog, but he wasn't as literary as Chandler, who with his classical education went place Hammett didn't know. Its not that he's better, if I had to choose between them, I'd say Hammett was the better writer, but Chandler just had a way of putting things and creating scenes that were simply incredible.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2023 04:55 PM (0hOvj)

142 "In his biography George Lucas: A Life ..."

He's not dead yet. WTF?

Posted by: gp Fails To Gain Function at January 23, 2023 04:55 PM (24fqN)

143 Monk going to Mexico to solve a crime and Monk refusing to eat or drink anything in Mexico and he's slowing going crazy with dehydration and hunger.

This episode could not be made today, What I love about Monk is that he had a wife and loved her so much and I liked that no matter who you are their is a person out there that will love you for who you are.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 23, 2023 04:55 PM (dKiJG)

144 115 I read a review that gave Plane a 2/4, so I'll skip and read a book.

Is it racist to say I'm tired of almost every action movie hero being black?

12 percent of population but they're everywhere on screen.
Posted by: Mr Gaga at January 23, 2023 04:51 PM (KiBMU)

Watch 'Bullet Train'. It's not deathless art, but it will make you smile. It also has Brad Pitt in it, for better or worse. (for better, IMO)

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at January 23, 2023 04:55 PM (XvPQV)

145
Also The Big Sleep cheated by hiring Chandler to write the screenplay.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water



Stephen Hunter had a neat throwaway bit in his book Hot Springs where Earl Swagger is walking through one of the casinos past a bunch of celebrities (Mickey Rooney with a bunch of nymphos, Orson Welles eating dinner with Rita Hayworth while asking the waiter "More mashed potatoes, please.").

Bogart and Chandler are sitting at a table throwing back whiskeys while Bogey is trying to convince Chandler that it doesn't MATTER who killed the chauffeur.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 23, 2023 04:55 PM (n+4am)

146 Klaus is out?

Posted by: JackStraw at January 23, 2023 04:56 PM (ZLI7S)

147 The Catholic League documentary on Disney, “Walt’s Disenchanted Kingdom,” is now available. It can be accessed on the Catholic League website and SalemNOW; it will be available shortly on Amazon Prime. We will also sell DVDs.

Posted by: BruceWayne at January 23, 2023 04:56 PM (MGB5H)

148 Marlowe wasn't 70 years old either, he was 35 years old.
Posted by: lowandslow at January 23, 2023 04:50 PM (76Foq)

he was getting up there in Poodle Springs.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 23, 2023 04:56 PM (xhaym)

149 109 Marlowe wasn't 70 years old either, he was 35 years old.
Posted by: lowandslow

35 in the 1940's is like 70 today. filterless cigs, whiskey for breakfast, wearing suits 24/7, and no power steering age you fast.

Posted by: x at January 23, 2023 04:56 PM (ZBPE2)

150 So it depends on whether Black got the tone and dialog right, and whether the screenwriters here get it right.

I read it; he didn't. Its not a bad book, its just not Marlowe.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2023 04:56 PM (0hOvj)

151 > That general, who must have had the upper-body strength of a six-year-old girl

Hilariously, that general was in charge of training for the entire Army.

Freaking "fully semi automatic."

Posted by: bonhomme at January 23, 2023 04:56 PM (eyxn4)

152 Marvel really should have just ended with Avengers: Endgame.

Then they could have started a DIFFERENT storyline with entirely new group of superheroes for a few movies, maybe even slowly introduced the Eternals or something instead of cramming them into one movie.

They had the near-perfect formula. They were just too impatient to keep crapping out content, oversaturating the market with "meh" product, at best, and "ugh" product at worst.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 23, 2023 04:57 PM (YIVH2)

153 137 I liked Archer Noir.
Posted by: N.Lurker at January 23, 2023 04:54 PM (eGTCV)

The first half is really good. Sorta falls apart by the ending episodes, I think.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at January 23, 2023 04:57 PM (XvPQV)

154 The Last of Us show is very good so far. I'm sure the inderage lesbian tranny stuff will suck tho in season 2...

Posted by: Mr. Anderson at January 23, 2023 04:57 PM (VPBcc)

155 I imagine a lot of people sounding like Peter Lorre in The Maltese Falcon. It would fit Tater, for instance.

Posted by: N.Lurker at January 23, 2023 04:57 PM (eGTCV)

156 I got swindled by a video in Friday's cafe, thinking it showed a Mexican sugar skull being made when it was just being boiled down in a frying pan, and then run in reverse, as 496 figured out. I felt like a Big Dummy, so now I'm Lamont the Big Dummy for the week.
Posted by: Lamont the Big Dummy at January 23, 2023 04:54 PM (C1Zwz)

You could rephrase that by saying that in any well run organization responsibility flows uphill.

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at January 23, 2023 04:57 PM (k2ndP)

157 The Lamont thing is to be lauded. No lost steps, Dog. Word.

Posted by: Holy Crap at January 23, 2023 04:57 PM (Kbe/v)

158 152 Marvel really should have just ended with Avengers: Endgame.

Then they could have started a DIFFERENT storyline with entirely new group of superheroes for a few movies, maybe even slowly introduced the Eternals or something instead of cramming them into one movie.

They had the near-perfect formula. They were just too impatient to keep crapping out content, oversaturating the market with "meh" product, at best, and "ugh" product at worst.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 23, 2023 04:57 PM (YIVH2)

I wish, oh I wish, I'd quit at Infinity War. That was the high point. Endgame was an anti-climax with fucking time travel.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at January 23, 2023 04:58 PM (XvPQV)

159
The first half is really good. Sorta falls apart by the ending episodes, I think.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at January 23, 2023 04:57 PM (XvPQV)

I see that.

Posted by: N.Lurker at January 23, 2023 04:58 PM (eGTCV)

160 Hammett was a damned good plotter and he was great with words and dialog, but he wasn't as literary as Chandler, who with his classical education went place Hammett didn't know. Its not that he's better, if I had to choose between them, I'd say Hammett was the better writer, but Chandler just had a way of putting things and creating scenes that were simply incredible.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2023 04:55 PM (0hOvj)

Hammett wrote after action reports on investigations and expense reports for a living, Chandler wrote oil company prospectuses (Prospectii?)

Different sorts of fictions

Posted by: Kindltot at January 23, 2023 04:58 PM (xhaym)

161 I don't think Tom Reagan would like you likening him to a twist.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 23, 2023 04:58 PM (yQpMk)

162 Monk going to Mexico to solve a crime and Monk refusing to eat or drink anything in Mexico and he's slowing going crazy with dehydration and hunger.

That was a standout episode, well done and it had an urgency and drama that most lacked. Monk's feel was weird, like it was a soft, safe world that pretended to be dangerous sometimes.

And I got really, really sick of the show being 25% about Monk being odd. did you know he was odd? He's odd. See how he's odd? His oddness is odd. How odd. Yeah. We get it. We got it the first episode.

It might be a show that doesn't binge well because of that.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2023 04:59 PM (0hOvj)

163 146 Klaus is out?
Posted by: JackStraw at January 23, 2023 04:56 PM (ZLI7S)

CC: George Takei

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at January 23, 2023 04:59 PM (XvPQV)

164 Maybe I don't understand enough from the trailer, but this one seems awfully obvious. If someone has to die to save the earth, the dad is going to volunteer.

Posted by: Wally at January 23, 2023 04:48 PM (FJYfm)

Which dad, though?

Posted by: Jordan61 at January 23, 2023 04:59 PM (DRSnL)

165 Peter Bootygay definitely should sound like Lorre.

Posted by: N.Lurker at January 23, 2023 04:59 PM (eGTCV)

166 Hmmm...every now and then I'm reminded why I don't go to movies or rent them out.

Not that Hollywood or Disney will miss my 5 bucks.

Posted by: Ju at January 23, 2023 04:59 PM (aTmM/)

167 "Mexican sugar skull"

Albanian aspartame ... shit, I can't find a bone name beginning with A. I've lost faith in everything now.

Posted by: gp Fails To Gain Function at January 23, 2023 04:59 PM (24fqN)

168 Wow. Liam Neeson is looking old for an action hero. He's going to break a hip or tear his paper-thin skin during a fight.

Posted by: Name the CIA Director installed by Ford after #DeepState Removed Nixon at January 23, 2023 04:59 PM (OeAlt)

169 It was NOT a Disney initiated or sponsored event.
Posted by: bonhomme at January 23, 2023 04:52 PM (eyxn4)

And that's why we are where we are today. Inability to see what's right in front of your face. Silly indeed.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 23, 2023 04:59 PM (3gh+6)

170 I wish, oh I wish, I'd quit at Infinity War. That was the high point. Endgame was an anti-climax with fucking time travel.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at January 23, 2023 04:58 PM (XvPQV)


Yeah, once you start down the time travel/multiverse road, things will inevitably turn to incomprehensible garbage.

Posted by: Wally at January 23, 2023 04:59 PM (FJYfm)

171 Time Travel is the Multiverse's older brother.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 23, 2023 04:59 PM (yQpMk)

172 The best Hammett line is from one of the Continental Op stories. The Op tells a woman criminal: "You think I'm a man and you're a woman. That's wrong. I'm a hunter and you're just something that's running in front of me."

Ace quoted two of the best Marlowe lines from Chandler. In that same novel, Marlowe describes an old woman drunk he's interviewed: "I took her some rye and she is a girl who will take a drink if she has to knock you down to get to the bottle."

Earlier, he has come to visit a potential client, a clearly gay aesthete who is proud of a new abstract sculpture he's bought, "Asta Dial's 'Spirit of Dawn.' " Annoyed by the guy, Marlowe says, "I thought it was Klopstein's 'Two Warts on a Fanny.' "

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 23, 2023 04:59 PM (J2vNu)

173 Joe if you have the time, pick up the Chandler novels. They're written well, just lovely prose. Plot....eh. Shaky at times. But if you're ok with just focusing on the words, they're golden books.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at January 23, 2023 04:50 PM (XvPQV)

Chandler mined his short stories for his novels, he started out writing for Black Mask magaizne. The best of them are collected in The Simple Art of Murder, which is a bang-up anthology and in a way is more fun than the novels that followed.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 23, 2023 05:00 PM (xhaym)

174 Weirdest thing about Monk was his boss being Jame Gumb.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at January 23, 2023 05:01 PM (ppBhU)

175 Yeah, the dialog on that Marlowe thing is brain-dead stupid. It sounds like the original draft was a parody, and the director insisted on making it a straight drama.

Woof.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 23, 2023 05:01 PM (XF9Gj)

176 The best of them are collected in The Simple Art of Murder, which is a bang-up anthology and in a way is more fun than the novels that followed.

The essay he wrote about writing mystery (the title of the book) is solid gold, its something every mystery writer should be forced to memorize.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2023 05:01 PM (0hOvj)

177 I must have missed something. Why is Chuy posting as a big dummy?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 23, 2023 05:01 PM (Wnv9h)

178 177 I must have missed something. Why is Chuy posting as a big dummy?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 23, 2023 05:01 PM (Wnv9h)

Check the right sidebar of the main page

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at January 23, 2023 05:02 PM (XvPQV)

179 My point on Marlowe not being 70 is, why don't they cast a good looking 35-year-old? It seems like you just handicapped yourself by casting a 70-year-old Neeson.
Why do it?

Posted by: lowandslow at January 23, 2023 05:02 PM (76Foq)

180 Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 23, 2023 04:55 PM (n+4am)

He beat the crap out of Bugsy Siegel too IIRC.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 23, 2023 05:02 PM (3gh+6)

181 "Mexican sugar skull"

Albanian aspartame ... shit, I can't find a bone name beginning with A. I've lost faith in everything now.

Posted by: gp Fails To Gain Function
===

Guatemalan Sugar Free Gummys

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at January 23, 2023 05:02 PM (u4CEu)

182 Lamont is changing the place into a movie review site?

As long as he doesn't bring up Prometheus I guess?

Posted by: TexasDan at January 23, 2023 05:03 PM (l5wJQ)

183 Okay, thanks Ace. I didn't watch the video. Also didn't realize 496 comment had anything to do with anything.

Posted by: jewells45 fuck cancer at January 23, 2023 05:03 PM (nxdel)

184 Disney will now spend a billion dollars to protect itself from backlash.

Posted by: Tom C at January 23, 2023 05:04 PM (g7nnY)

185 154 The Last of Us show is very good so far. I'm sure the inderage lesbian tranny stuff will suck tho in season 2...
Posted by: Mr. Anderson at January 23, 2023 04:57 PM (VPBcc)
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That's the M.O. -- Hook an audience with a well-written story and good direction in season 1, then "subvert our expectations" in season 2.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at January 23, 2023 05:04 PM (ssESX)

186 Chandler added the whole "a knight of a lost age in a fallen world" thing, whereas Hammett's heroes were just cynical. Marlowe's cynicism is of the poisoned romantic kind.
Posted by: Lamont the Big Dummy at January 23, 2023 04:51 PM (C1Zwz)

I think Hammett saw it as a job, a filthy stinking job that paid better than shoveling coal, but dealing with people you would rather not have to deal with. And exhilarating beyond belief.

Every day you end able to keep swinging, is a good day., I think The Thin Man was a good example of that, Nick just wanted to retire and live on his savings, but he was too good to walk away.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 23, 2023 05:04 PM (xhaym)

187 Only Disney could take a slam-dunk fan favorite like She Hulk and completely fuck it up. Jennifer Walters was NOT a miserable, bitter, resentful cunt who hated the audience.

Posted by: They probably never even read the source material at January 23, 2023 05:04 PM (s2na+)

188 Regarding Disenchanted, yeah. Disney has really really blown it.

And this isn't like the late 70s/early 80s when they were putting out pretty forgettable stuff like The Fox and the Hound and The Apple Dumpling Gang Rides Again. Although Fox and the Hound was actually pretty good. Back then, they were low on creative ideas, but people still loved Disney and the rides were fun.

They've turned themselves into someone actively hostile toward families and children, which was their bread and butter. This is like Taco Bell going on a rampage against marijuana use.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2023 05:04 PM (0hOvj)

189 As long as he doesn't bring up Prometheus I guess?
Posted by: TexasDan at January 23, 2023 05:03 PM (l5wJQ)


That's a Thin Red Line even Chuy daren't cross.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 23, 2023 05:05 PM (yQpMk)

190 Plane doesn't sound like half the movie that Money Plane was.

Posted by: that guy who judges films by their titles at January 23, 2023 05:05 PM (h5TKJ)

191 My point on Marlowe not being 70 is, why don't they cast a good looking 35-year-old? It seems like you just handicapped yourself by casting a 70-year-old Neeson.
Why do it?
Posted by: lowandslow at January 23, 2023 05:02 PM (76Foq)

There seems to be a dearth of talented, good-looking, 30-something year old actors.

Posted by: Jordan61 at January 23, 2023 05:05 PM (DRSnL)

192 Chandler mined his short stories for his novels, he started out writing for Black Mask magaizne. The best of them are collected in The Simple Art of Murder, which is a bang-up anthology and in a way is more fun than the novels that followed.
Posted by: Kindltot at January 23, 2023

***
The novelette "Red Wind," which I don't think he ever cannibalized, is the best of them. It starts with that famous quote: "There was a wind blowing that night. . . ." In a late episode of Mary Tyler Moore, Lou Grant picks up a copy and reads that paragraph, and says, "Now that's writing."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 23, 2023 05:05 PM (J2vNu)

193 Also The Big Sleep cheated by hiring Chandler to write the screenplay.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at January 23, 2023 04:44 PM (XvPQV)

Didn't Monica help him with that? I'm so confused.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at January 23, 2023 05:05 PM (BdMk6)

194
who is Lamont???

The Shadow knows.

Posted by: Shadow nose at January 23, 2023 05:06 PM (63Dwl)

195 Yeah, once you start down the time travel/multiverse road, things will inevitably turn to incomprehensible garbage.
Posted by: Wally at January 23, 2023 04:59 PM (FJYfm)
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Time-travel/multiverse stories are *very* difficult to tell, almost as hard as comedy.

They almost always rely on the creation of a stable time loop where the heroes must play out key roles in order to complete the loop and not destroy reality in some way.

Doctor Who always played fast and loose with this rule, but the best stories usually involve creative loophole abuse in some way that establishes the importance of proper causality.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 23, 2023 05:06 PM (YIVH2)

196 Money Plane

Posted by: lowandslow at January 23, 2023 05:06 PM (76Foq)

197 I think Hammett saw it as a job, a filthy stinking job that paid better than shoveling coal, but dealing with people you would rather not have to deal with. And exhilarating beyond belief.

Then he got the Metallica gig and life got WAY better.

Posted by: \m/ \m/ at January 23, 2023 05:06 PM (s2na+)

198 > And that's why we are where we are today. Inability to see what's right in front of your face. Silly indeed.

You're glibly dismissing what I said, but there is actually a very important conversation to be had about how evil will creep in slowly and patiently in any open society that recognizes individual rights.

Even authoritarian regimes which entertain some socially conservative values and who crack down on things like drug use, sexual permissiveness, etc. eventually either have to wipe out entire populations or become more permissive to the people's vices.

It's a sort of spiritual entropy that WILL happen any time a society loses their connection to God.

Posted by: bonhomme at January 23, 2023 05:07 PM (eyxn4)

199 I'll tell you what movie I *won't* be seeing: the new M Night Shamalamadingdong movie with the gay couple and their adopted Asian daughter.
Posted by: Jordan61 at January 23, 2023 04:42 PM

So the gay couple and their adopted Asian daughter will just have to see the movie on their own?

Posted by: Grammar Pedant at January 23, 2023 05:07 PM (xttsV)

200
I wish, oh I wish, I'd quit at Infinity War. That was the high point. Endgame was an anti-climax with fucking time travel.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water


I fucking hated Infinity War. Incomprehensible plot, stole the big battle scene from Phantom Menace (seriously, how lame are you if you steal shit from the Lucas prequels?), and made the genocidal maniac into a tragic, sympathetic character. Fuck that, Thanos is a gorram mass murdering asshole to rival Mao and Pol Pot.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 23, 2023 05:07 PM (n+4am)

201 154 The Last of Us show is very good so far. I'm sure the inderage lesbian tranny stuff will suck tho in season 2...
Posted by: Mr. Anderson at January 23, 2023 04:57 PM (VPBcc)
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That's the M.O. -- Hook an audience with a well-written story and good direction in season 1, then "subvert our expectations" in season 2.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at January 23, 2023 05:04 PM (ssESX)
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Watch out for Episode 5! That's often the point where they start introducing the "woke" elements...Then fully switch over to them in Season 2.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 23, 2023 05:07 PM (YIVH2)

202 There seems to be a dearth of talented, good-looking, 30-something year old actors.
Posted by: Jordan61 at January 23, 2023 05:05 PM (DRSnL)

No. There's a dearth of manly actors.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at January 23, 2023 05:07 PM (BdMk6)

203 did ace convert lamont? I needs a backstory

You want context with your content?

We don't do that here.

Posted by: DaveA at January 23, 2023 05:07 PM (FhXTo)

204 158
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I wish, oh I wish, I'd quit at Infinity War. That was the high point. Endgame was an anti-climax with fucking time travel.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at
January 23, 2023 04:58 PM (XvPQV)
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100% agree. Not to mention that "Endgame" mostly undid the gravitas of what happened at the end of Infinity War. Using time travel as retroactive plot armor was a novel idea I guess.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at January 23, 2023 05:08 PM (ssESX)

205 Old & Busted: Haunted Mansion
New Hotness: Homo Hotel

Scare the pants of you.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at January 23, 2023 05:08 PM (u4CEu)

206 ace is going to start drinking Champipple.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 23, 2023 05:08 PM (3gh+6)

207 "35 in the 1940's is like 70 today. filterless cigs, whiskey for breakfast, wearing suits 24/7, and no power steering age you fast."

All the hats: neck sprains.

Posted by: gp Fails To Gain Function at January 23, 2023 05:08 PM (24fqN)

208 Apparently Chandler was immensely gifted, but such a gigantic alkie he was brutal to work with. The account of Billy Wilder trying to work with Chandler to rewrite Double Indemnity into a better story for the screen play is both hilarious and tragic.

Wilder is awestruck at how good Chandler is with words and almost without effort coming up with better ways to form a scene, but found him almost impossible to work with because he was constantly sneaking out to drink and missing days, staggering in barely able to speak, etc.

Hammett was a big alkie too but at least he was struggling with Tuberculosis as well and had kind of an excuse.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2023 05:08 PM (0hOvj)

209 > That general, who must have had the upper-body strength of a six-year-old girl

A general, as Painter would say, doesn't take a dump without a plan. He intended to look awful and clumsy. Now what kind of fuckery would make him do that?

Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 23, 2023 05:08 PM (44ww/)

210 208 Apparently Chandler was immensely gifted, but such a gigantic alkie he was brutal to work with. The account of Billy Wilder trying to work with Chandler to rewrite Double Indemnity into a better story for the screen play is both hilarious and tragic.

Wilder is awestruck at how good Chandler is with words and almost without effort coming up with better ways to form a scene, but found him almost impossible to work with because he was constantly sneaking out to drink and missing days, staggering in barely able to speak, etc.

Hammett was a big alkie too but at least he was struggling with Tuberculosis as well and had kind of an excuse.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2023 05:08 PM (0hOvj)

Hammett also married a commie and basically quit publishing anything once he did. He apparently kept writing to his dying day but Lillian Hellman burned all is manuscripts when he died.

*spits*

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at January 23, 2023 05:10 PM (XvPQV)

211 >>96 I liked Robert Altman's film of "The Long Goodbye."
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at January 23, 2023 04:48 PM (cq4C

Noir through a pot haze

Posted by: Caliban at January 23, 2023 05:10 PM (ni2c1)

212 There seems to be a dearth of talented, good-looking, 30-something year old actors.
Posted by: Jordan61 at January 23, 2023

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Oh, there are some. But they all seem to come off as willowy soyboys. The next Sean Connery is nowhere to be found.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 23, 2023 05:11 PM (J2vNu)

213 Plane looks pretty intense. Good old fashioned just kill every bad guy type movie.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 23, 2023 05:11 PM (VwHCD)

214 The Last of Us

Apparently the second installment of the video game had tranny stuff. (I'm informed; I don't play.) So it seems a certainty that it will be in the show at some point. Most of the cast is so painfully homely that it's rough watching anyway. Ellie has a sixhead, and it may be her most attractie facial feature. Where'd they hold casting calls? Innsmouth?

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at January 23, 2023 05:11 PM (ppBhU)

215 Hammett also married a commie and basically quit publishing anything once he did. He apparently kept writing to his dying day but Lillian Hellman burned all is manuscripts when he died.

His later stuff... suffers from trying to write outside his zone and the commie influence. He came by it honestly though, his early work for the Pinkertons included strike breaking and it sickened him to the point he quit the job. I think seeing the evil stuff companies were doing led him to look for something better and he was not wise about it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2023 05:11 PM (0hOvj)

216 100% agree. Not to mention that "Endgame" mostly undid the gravitas of what happened at the end of Infinity War. Using time travel as retroactive plot armor was a novel idea I guess.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at January 23, 2023 05:08 PM (ssESX)
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With the destruction of the Infinity Stones after "The Snap" the only way the heroes could undo what happened was with a ludicrous time travel plot. Or they'd have to find a MacGuffin of equal or greater power to undo Thanos' actions. And then come up with a plausible solution within the 2-3 hours of screen time. The time travel plot was probably easier to write...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 23, 2023 05:11 PM (YIVH2)

217 I see elements of Marlowe and Spade in Inspector John Rebus by Ian Rankin. I mean in the toughness, the lines and the willingness to go outside the lines.
Rebus of is a cop.

Posted by: N.Lurker at January 23, 2023 05:11 PM (eGTCV)

218 > Apparently Chandler was immensely gifted, but such a gigantic alkie he was brutal to work with.

Sounds like Hemingway.

Posted by: bonhomme at January 23, 2023 05:11 PM (eyxn4)

219 Check the right sidebar of the main page
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at January 23, 2023 05:02 PM

I guess I missed the Mexican skull video. I'm so confused...

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 23, 2023 05:11 PM (Wnv9h)

220 No longer the happiest place on earth.

Now it is the Wokest and it sucks.

Who would have predicted that?

Posted by: Czech Chick at January 23, 2023 05:12 PM (6Tc2R)

221 wish, oh I wish, I'd quit at Infinity War. That was the high point.
-

Thanks. I haven't watched any of them and that is information that I can use.

I hate that no one told me the same about John Wick.

Posted by: There is no deep state, there is only the state at January 23, 2023 05:12 PM (vuQMF)

222 Hammett also married a commie and basically quit publishing anything once he did. He apparently kept writing to his dying day but Lillian Hellman burned all is manuscripts when he died.

*spits*
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at January 23, 2023

***
He stopped publishing anything but a few Sam Spade short stories after The Thin Man in about 1933. Did he actually marry Lillian H., though? I didn't think he did.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 23, 2023 05:12 PM (J2vNu)

223 I fucking hated Infinity War. Incomprehensible plot, stole the big battle scene from Phantom Menace (seriously, how lame are you if you steal shit from the Lucas prequels?), and made the genocidal maniac into a tragic, sympathetic character. Fuck that, Thanos is a gorram mass murdering asshole to rival Mao and Pol Pot.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 23, 2023 05:07 PM (n+4am)

If you hate it, you hate it. I won't argue you out of hate.

But the plot is very straightforward. What is incomprehensible about it to you?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at January 23, 2023 05:12 PM (XvPQV)

224 I liked Elliot Gould's Marlowe in The Long Goodbye in the 70's

Posted by: No Name Today at January 23, 2023 05:13 PM (vlXMQ)

225 Vince Vaughn would make a good Marlowe. Though he's a big guy.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 23, 2023 05:13 PM (3gh+6)

226
There seems to be a dearth of talented, good-looking, 30-something year old actors.

Posted by: Jordan61 at January 23, 2023 05:05 PM

...who have the gravitas to play Marlowe

Posted by: AltonJackson at January 23, 2023 05:13 PM (ENBF0)

227 "Plane looks pretty intense. Good old fashioned just kill every bad guy type movie."

Suck them thru fuselage punctures. Feed em to a jet engine or prop. Throw em out the back. "Plane" has to come up with a novel way of offing them.

Posted by: gp Fails To Gain Function at January 23, 2023 05:13 PM (24fqN)

228 I must have missed something. Why is Chuy posting as a big dummy?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 23, 2023 05:01 PM (Wnv9h)

It is his personal self criticism session. He will be back to normal once he has excised that bit of himself that brought shame upon his blog.

We wish him well in his long march.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 23, 2023 05:13 PM (xhaym)

229 I hate that no one told me the same about John Wick.
Posted by: There is no deep state, there is only the state at January 23, 2023 05:12 PM (vuQMF)
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Stop after 2?

Posted by: Axeman at January 23, 2023 05:14 PM (OaZlZ)

230 @214

The writers subverted our expectations by making Ellie gay, and introducing a love interest and, yeah I think a gender confused person. And Joel, well I don't want to ruin the first game by talking about how they did him.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at January 23, 2023 05:14 PM (ssESX)

231 With the destruction of the Infinity Stones after "The Snap" the only way the heroes could undo what happened was with a ludicrous time travel plot.

And it was pointless. They were so fixated on getting to the multiverse, they screwed themselves. They didn't HAVE to make the stones destroyed (its a bit of a puzzle how that could be done, anyway), they chose to in a single throwaway line.

A better plot would have been to have them have to go through a series of amazing adventures to get each stone, weaving the more fantastical cosmic elements of the Marvel Universe like Eternity and Ego and The Living Tribunal, Adam Warlock etc and then assemble them to fix the events of the previous movie.

But no. They went with matching jumpers and time travel and ... yeah.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2023 05:14 PM (0hOvj)

232 Did he actually marry Lillian H., though? I didn't think he did.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 23, 2023 05:12 PM (J2vNu)

I stand corrected. But they were together for decades.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at January 23, 2023 05:14 PM (XvPQV)

233 I think we've all been duped by an internet video, ace.

Don't be so hard on yourself.

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 23, 2023 05:15 PM (3XMoj)

234 I guess I missed the Mexican skull video. I'm so confused...

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 23, 2023 05:11 PM (Wnv9h)

++++

It was in one of the Cafe threads. I think last week.

Posted by: No Name Today at January 23, 2023 05:15 PM (vlXMQ)

235
Yeah, who is young that you are going to get in H'wood to play a "manly" role? Timotheeeee Chalamet?

All these younger guys look like junkie rentboys. Because they are.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 23, 2023 05:15 PM (oINRc)

236 That's the M.O. -- Hook an audience with a well-written story and good direction in season 1, then "subvert our expectations" in season 2.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at January 23, 2023

***
Such was my basic impression of Better Call Saul, which I finished last night. It does not leave you with anything like the flavor of Breaking Bad.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 23, 2023 05:15 PM (J2vNu)

237 It is his personal self criticism session.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 23, 2023 05:13 PM (xhaym)
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Chuy's having a struggle session?

Posted by: Axeman at January 23, 2023 05:15 PM (OaZlZ)

238 228 I must have missed something. Why is Chuy posting as a big dummy?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 23, 2023 05:01 PM (Wnv9h)

It is his personal self criticism session. He will be back to normal once he has excised that bit of himself that brought shame upon his blog.

We wish him well in his long march.
Posted by: Kindltot at January 23, 2023 05:13 PM (xhaym)

I understand Ewoks are supposed to eat the disgraced part once excised.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at January 23, 2023 05:16 PM (eYoxG)

239 "I guess I missed the Mexican skull video."

Any Mexican sugar skull vid will do. Doesn't have to be the exact same one.

Posted by: gp Fails To Gain Function at January 23, 2023 05:16 PM (24fqN)

240 Film Threat and JoBlo both say it's really good, and a throwback to 90s action movies when stories were simple, stunts were practical, and identity politics were absent, apart from the usual action-movie set-up showing people of different races cooperating to kill people of varied races.

Ryan Kinel of RK Outpost and Friday Night Tights also recommended it:

https://bit.ly/3ZOSawe

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at January 23, 2023 05:16 PM (Do5/p)

241 I understand Ewoks are supposed to eat the disgraced part once excised.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at January 23, 2023 05:16 PM (eYoxG)
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Auto-cannibalism?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 23, 2023 05:16 PM (YIVH2)

242 237 It is his personal self criticism session.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 23, 2023 05:13 PM (xhaym)
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Chuy's having a struggle session?
Posted by: Axeman at January 23, 2023 05:15 PM (OaZlZ)

Is he going to parade himself through the streets wearing one of those pointy dunce hats?

Posted by: N.Lurker at January 23, 2023 05:16 PM (eGTCV)

243 If they thaw out Walt's head, attach it to a mechanical circulation system, and wake him up again, does that mean he can gain control of his company again?

Posted by: Pete in Texas at January 23, 2023 05:17 PM (Gv+hF)

244
but Lillian Hellman burned all is manuscripts when he died.

*spits*
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water



As if you needed to give me another reason to hate that c*nt. Being a commie cocksucker was certainly enough, and when a fellow commie cocksucker like Mary McCarthy has a vicious legal battle with her because she was a lying bitch...

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 23, 2023 05:17 PM (n+4am)

245 If Columbo were to occasionally kill a bad guy, he'd have been the perfect detective.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at January 23, 2023 05:18 PM (dObTI)

246 Did he actually marry Lillian H., though? I didn't think he did.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 23, 2023
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I stand corrected. But they were together for decades.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at January 23, 2023

***
Funny Dorothy Parker story: Lillian is visiting Dottie and her husband Alan in the winter at their country place. Lillian and Dottie are sitting by a roaring fire while Alan is arguing loudly with his mother upstairs. Then Alan comes thumping down and snaps, "It's hot as hell in here."

"Not for orphans," Dottie says, and Lillian almost chokes laughing.

(Dorothy admired Hammett almost as much as she did Hemingway. Neither of them liked her.)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 23, 2023 05:18 PM (J2vNu)

247 So, how many remember that Sunday at 7:00 pm was Wonderful World of Disney, come hell or high water? We never called it that, we called it "Walt Disney" as in "Go get the newspaper and find out what's on Walt Disney tonight."

He always introduced his show, and Tinkerbell showed up from time to time to give him a hard time.

Now, I'd fear for what they might show. It's all fag, all the time now, and just wait until the Drag Queens tm show up.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at January 23, 2023 05:18 PM (okGHj)

248 There seems to be a dearth of talented, good-looking, 30-something year old actors.
Posted by: Jordan61

Well, we don't mince lisp and cry a lot... Tell me about it...

Posted by: Big Gay Al at January 23, 2023 05:18 PM (PmxKf)

249 John Wick, stop at 5.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 23, 2023 05:19 PM (44ww/)

250 With the destruction of the Infinity Stones after "The Snap" the only way the heroes could undo what happened was with a ludicrous time travel plot. Or they'd have to find a MacGuffin of equal or greater power to undo Thanos' actions. And then come up with a plausible solution within the 2-3 hours of screen time. The time travel plot was probably easier to write...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 23, 2023 05:11 PM (YIVH2)

Oh there were multiple ways to undo The Snap, they could have turned to the Celestials, they could have reasoned with or pleaded with Thanos to reverse it (perhaps ala the end of Dr. Strange 1), They could have said all the dead souls were inside the soul stone and then do a heist to steal and destroy just it. Or gone into the soul stone to release everyone. Etc.

No shortage of other ideas. But they chose stupidly.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at January 23, 2023 05:19 PM (XvPQV)

251 247 I do! I was parented by TV too.

Posted by: gp Fails To Gain Function at January 23, 2023 05:19 PM (24fqN)

252
Such was my basic impression of Better Call Saul, which I finished last night. It does not leave you with anything like the flavor of Breaking Bad.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 23, 2023 05:15 PM

if you squint just right, you could see Bob Odenkirk playing Marlowe (or Sam Spade)

Posted by: AltonJackson at January 23, 2023 05:20 PM (ENBF0)

253

I wonder how much Disney stuff they didn't put in the movie for fear of being sued or found having killed themselves hanging from a tree with a gunshot wound to the chest...

Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at January 23, 2023 05:20 PM (PmxKf)

254 > "Plane" has to come up with a novel way of offing them.
___________

Drag them with the landing gear through rabid monkey infested trees?

Fuck... I'd pay to see that.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 23, 2023 05:20 PM (Q4IgG)

255 I hate that no one told me the same about John Wick.
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Stop after 2?

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Avoid everything after 1 like the plague.

Oh look, a female John Wick that is just as talented and lucky as John, and even more awesome because she USES dogs, not just lets them get killed like a loser. And did we mention that there is no real motivation any longer because Wick isn't suicidal?

Posted by: Name the CIA Director installed by Ford after #DeepState Removed Nixon at January 23, 2023 05:20 PM (OeAlt)

256 > There seems to be a dearth of talented, good-looking, 30-something year old actors.
Posted by: Jordan61


Tanned, rested, and ready!

Posted by: Brian Stelter, the action hero you've all been waiting for! at January 23, 2023 05:20 PM (PiwSw)

257 All these younger guys look like junkie rentboys. Because they are.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 23, 2023 05:15 PM (oINRc)

The girls all look like prepubescent boys, so there's that as well.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at January 23, 2023 05:20 PM (okGHj)

258 Stop after 2?
Posted by: Axeman

Correct.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 23, 2023 05:21 PM (XF9Gj)

259 Is he going to parade himself through the streets wearing one of those pointy dunce hats?
Posted by: N.Lurker at January 23, 2023 05:16 PM (eGTCV)

That's an Auto-de-fe and of course requires those San Benitos too.
Go long on yellow smocks

Posted by: Kindltot at January 23, 2023 05:21 PM (xhaym)

260 ace should just say he takes melting Mexican skulls very seriously and we should all just move on.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 23, 2023 05:22 PM (ZLI7S)

261 There seems to be a dearth of talented, good-looking, 30-something year old actors.

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I think it's helpful to remember that Hollywood has embraced ugly. There are likely plenty of the Thor guys out there, but they're not allowed to get parts because they're handsome and appealing (full disclosure: I don't know much about him other than watching and enjoying him in Rush. He seems like a decent actor)

They've been trying to convince people that ugly people are awesome for the last decade or so, and it's all tied to that.

Posted by: Name the CIA Director installed by Ford after #DeepState Removed Nixon at January 23, 2023 05:22 PM (OeAlt)

262 Such was my basic impression of Better Call Saul, which I finished last night. It does not leave you with anything like the flavor of Breaking Bad.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 23, 2023 05:15 PM (J2vNu)

I think Better Call Saul was a better show until its end. Breaking Bad was better once its ending is considered. Breaking Bad has more of a story arc.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at January 23, 2023 05:22 PM (XvPQV)

263 251 247 I do! I was parented by TV too.
Posted by: gp Fails To Gain Function at January 23, 2023 05:19 PM (24fqN)

For those of us who were never going to be able to see Disneyland, the best ones were the travelogues. "Tomorrowland!"

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at January 23, 2023 05:23 PM (okGHj)

264 Is anyone auditioning to be MiniLamont? Is the job still open Can anyone apply?

Posted by: Experienced Minion at January 23, 2023 05:23 PM (8ocB+)

265 They've been trying to convince people that ugly people are awesome for the last decade or so, and it's all tied to that.
Posted by: Name the CIA Director installed by Ford after #DeepState Removed Nixon at January 23, 2023 05:22 PM (OeAlt)

YAY ME!

Posted by: Brian Stelter, the action hero you've all been waiting for! at January 23, 2023 05:23 PM (PiwSw)

266 if you squint just right, you could see Bob Odenkirk playing Marlowe (or Sam Spade)
Posted by: AltonJackson at January 23, 2023 05:20 PM (ENBF0)

I think I'd pay money to see that.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at January 23, 2023 05:23 PM (XvPQV)

267 262 Love em both.

Posted by: gp Fails To Gain Function at January 23, 2023 05:24 PM (24fqN)

268 264 Is anyone auditioning to be MiniLamont? Is the job still open Can anyone apply?
Posted by: Experienced Minion at January 23, 2023 05:23 PM (8ocB+)

Does the job come with a 401k?

Posted by: Hapless Henchman at January 23, 2023 05:24 PM (PiwSw)

269 Tanned, rested, and ready!

Posted by: Brian Stelter, the action hero you've all been waiting for! at January 23, 2023 05:20 PM (PiwSw)

Good lord, I keep forgetting you're not in your 50s.

Posted by: Jordan61 at January 23, 2023 05:24 PM (DRSnL)

270 So I see there's a new Woody Harrelson movie with the plot from the Might Ducks where he coaches a basketball team made up of special needs kids to the Special Olympics basketball championship. It's called "Champions".

Or maybe I just made all that up. It's tough to tell these days, isn't it?

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at January 23, 2023 05:24 PM (cupoy)

271 tcn your right, religiously watched that Disney shows a kid

Posted by: Skip at January 23, 2023 05:24 PM (xhxe8)

272 Posted by: Name the CIA Director installed by Ford after #DeepState Removed Nixon at January 23, 2023 05:22 PM (OeAlt)

Watched Predators recently. Really liked the movie but could never understand Adrien Brody as a leading male actor.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 23, 2023 05:25 PM (3gh+6)

273 Does the job come with a 401k?
Posted by: Hapless Henchman at January 23, 2023 05:24 PM (PiwSw)

I suspect you don't get a retirement, but I think you get assigned a personal Oompa-Loompa

Posted by: Kindltot at January 23, 2023 05:25 PM (xhaym)

274 You know Gerard Butler is a really nice looking guy.

Posted by: Tuna at January 23, 2023 05:25 PM (gLRfa)

275 Or wait, was John Wick 2 the one with the superhero deaf lesbian that was awesome and Wick's equal even though everyone knows hearing loss limits perception and awareness and would severely limit fighting in elite high-level death matches against the best male assassin in the world?

Oh, and small woman.

Posted by: Name the CIA Director installed by Ford after #DeepState Removed Nixon at January 23, 2023 05:26 PM (OeAlt)

276 Posted by: Brian Stelter, the action hero you've all been waiting for! at January 23, 2023 05:20 PM (PiwSw)

I think Tater would do better as that ball thing that keeps prisoners from escaping from the island.

Posted by: N.Lurker at January 23, 2023 05:26 PM (eGTCV)

277 271 tcn your right, religiously watched that Disney shows a kid
Posted by: Skip at January 23, 2023 05:24 PM (xhxe

I have a feeling we are all close in age, I watched it as well.

When you hear Lamont, you big dummy do you guys also think of redd Foxx?

Posted by: CaliGirl at January 23, 2023 05:26 PM (8ZYSd)

278 Plane looks cool. Justice with a sledgehammer is alway welcome.

The "is this something" from a few months ago: Bull. Well, it was something. Not sure what, but it was something.

Posted by: Fool Otto at January 23, 2023 05:27 PM (DB16e)

279 You know Gerard Butler is a really nice looking guy.
Posted by: Tuna at January 23, 2023 05:25 PM (gLRfa)

Yes. Yes, he is.

Posted by: Jordan61 at January 23, 2023 05:27 PM (DRSnL)

280 30 min 1950 Radio Drama:
MR. DIOGENES
https://youtu.be/4KBUI_WZ-nU

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at January 23, 2023 05:27 PM (XvPQV)

281 You guys playing cards?

Posted by: Dwayne Johnson at January 23, 2023 05:27 PM (4I/2K)

282 "This comes out today."

Now that's funny!

Posted by: JuJuBee, fact checker hammered by events at January 23, 2023 05:28 PM (tM5h4)

283 Any 30s noir film also needs a dame with legs up to here.

Posted by: N.Lurker at January 23, 2023 05:28 PM (eGTCV)

284

We went to Grandma and watched wild Kingdom in Walt Disney absolutely religiously. Also the Miss America pageant once a year, for some reason. Possibly Grandpa had impure thoughts.

Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at January 23, 2023 05:28 PM (PmxKf)

285 "I have a feeling we are all close in age, I watched it as well. "

Never missed it.

Posted by: Tuna at January 23, 2023 05:28 PM (gLRfa)

286 >deaf lesbian

Was it clear she was deaf? Maybe mute.

Posted by: Fool Otto at January 23, 2023 05:29 PM (DB16e)

287 Okay I guess you're away for a day or 2 and nothing makes sense. Who the hell is Lamont?
Posted by: jewells45 fuck cancer at January 23, 2023 04:40 PM (nxdel)

It'd have been more obvious if Ace had followed the style guide and renamed himself "Lamont, you big dummy!"

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at January 23, 2023 05:30 PM (ZSK0i)

288 285 Gunsmoke came on right after the Disney show.

Posted by: gp Fails To Gain Function at January 23, 2023 05:30 PM (24fqN)

289 Sugar skull vid

https://tinyurl.com/mwbcacda

Posted by: Ju at January 23, 2023 05:30 PM (aTmM/)

290 Caligirl yes, was out putting stuff in truck thinking of S&S

Posted by: Skip at January 23, 2023 05:30 PM (xhxe8)

291 >Or wait, was John Wick 2 the one with the superhero deaf lesbian

1) If lusting after Ruby Rose in a suit is ghey ... well fine then.

2) She's mute, not deaf, and it is clear throughout that she can never beat him in an even fight.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 23, 2023 05:30 PM (44ww/)

292 Ace, why are calling yourself Lamont "The Big Dummy" Sanford?

https://tinyurl.com/3xwhy4mu

Are you changing your race to black, to get in-line for slavery reparations?

Posted by: Gref at January 23, 2023 05:31 PM (AMIL/)

293 288 285 Gunsmoke came on right after the Disney show.
Posted by: gp Fails To Gain Function at January 23, 2023 05:30 PM (24fqN)

I could swear I watched Bonanza on Sunday evenings.

Posted by: N.Lurker at January 23, 2023 05:31 PM (eGTCV)

294 I like the first film version of Farewell My Lovely, Murder My Sweet with Dick Powell and Claire Trevor, better than the 1970s version with Mitchum.

Posted by: Marcus Gravey at January 23, 2023 05:31 PM (516e+)

295 We watched Mutual of Omaha's Wild Kingdom as a family.

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 23, 2023 05:31 PM (Jcd9M)

296 233 I think we've all been duped by an internet video, ace.

Don't be so hard on yourself.
Posted by: nurse ratched
=============

What did ace do this time?

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at January 23, 2023 05:31 PM (Zktzy)

297 36 who is Lamont???
Posted by: runner at January 23, 2023 04:40 PM (Aoizk)
.......

The governor of Connecticut?

Posted by: wth at January 23, 2023 05:31 PM (v0R5T)

298 293 You are right! I stand corrected.

Posted by: gp Fails To Gain Function at January 23, 2023 05:31 PM (24fqN)

299 Was it clear she was deaf? Maybe mute.

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Ha, okay.

Tiny special-needs woman is equal to the best male assassin in the world. We can go with that, too.

Posted by: Name the CIA Director installed by Ford after #DeepState Removed Nixon at January 23, 2023 05:32 PM (OeAlt)

300 There are no male actors today who could play Spade or Marlow.


It's got to be a woman!

- Hollywood

Posted by: Archer at January 23, 2023 05:32 PM (gmo/4)

301 When you hear Lamont, you big dummy do you guys also think of redd Foxx?
Posted by: CaliGirl at January 23, 2023 05:26 PM (8ZYSd)

Every time.


Aunt Esther : Fred Sanford why is it every time I come over to your house you call me ugly?

Fred Sanford : Because I'm not the type to lie.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at January 23, 2023 05:32 PM (ZSK0i)

302 Are there any actresses around today who could play a 30s dame?

Posted by: N.Lurker at January 23, 2023 05:33 PM (eGTCV)

303 Speaking of hardboiled detective fiction, Ace have you ever read the Continental Op stories by Dashiell Hammett? They're fantastic. They're on YouTube as free audiobooks as well. Try to find the ones narrated by a guy named Winston Tharp. He's really good.

Anyway, for those who have never read the stories, the Continental Op is a Private Investigator working for the Continental Detective Agency. His name is actually never mentioned in any of the stories, which is kind of cool. And he's not your typical he-man type hero. He's short and chubby, which also adds to the unorthodox nature of his character. You should check them out, I think you'd enjoy them.

Posted by: Lamont Cranston at January 23, 2023 05:34 PM (NVVQz)

304 "I could swear I watched Bonanza on Sunday evenings."

Pretty sure that's correct. I thought Gunsmoke was on Sat. night. Being that I am 29 plus my memory may be a bit fuzzy though. I know Mission Impossible was on Sat. night.

Posted by: Tuna at January 23, 2023 05:34 PM (gLRfa)

305 Speaking of ace... I'm surprised no one commented on the shelves of the "library" someone built into the rotunda feature of their ceiling. That was some very impressive shelf work if I do say so. It was in the book thread 2 weekends ago I think.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at January 23, 2023 05:34 PM (ssESX)

306 2) She's mute, not deaf, and it is clear throughout that she can never beat him in an even fight.
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The original point stands.

Everything after the first film lacks motivation. Wick was suicidal and, being the best at what he does, the idea that he could get lucky just enough to accomplish that single-minded task is almost believable. It could happen if the cards were all exactly right.

Nothing after the first movie makes any sense.

Posted by: Name the CIA Director installed by Ford after #DeepState Removed Nixon at January 23, 2023 05:34 PM (OeAlt)

307 Your lips, neck and arm pits would get all scratchy from his steroidal facial hair.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at January 23, 2023 05:34 PM (IkFmO)

308 We watched Mutual of Omaha's Wild Kingdom as a family.

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 23, 2023 05:31 PM (Jcd9M)


Us too. But even as a kid I knew Marlin Perkins had it in for Jim Fowler.





Posted by: Archer at January 23, 2023 05:35 PM (gmo/4)

309 Or a Trannie

Posted by: Skip at January 23, 2023 05:35 PM (xhxe8)

310
There are no male actors today who could play Spade or Marlow.


It's got to be a woman!

- Hollywood
Posted by: Archer


Black woman!

Black differently abled woman!

Black differently abled polyamorous lesbian transsexual body positive activist woman!

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 23, 2023 05:35 PM (n+4am)

311 i signed up for BritBox just to watch Jonathan Creek. He's a designer of illusions for a stage magician, so his special skill is that he can see through deceptions and fakery and false alibis, etc. The mysteries are always convoluted locked room puzzles or that kind of "impossible crime" situation. They're not very plausible -- why would you kill someone like this? -- and they're contrived but sometimes they're pretty good and I always like guessing them.

Kind of a three-quarters recommendation if you like Monk's style of mystery, which also tended to be "impossible crimes."

Posted by: Lamont the Big Dummy
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Creek is ok but suffers in the last season. Found it a diversion. Try New Tricks--not much action but excellent cast. Ditto for the Sandbaggers--the protagonist is a nasty person which over time you understand why. Want action with less talking--watch The Sweeney which is a Brit take on US cop shows.Shakespeare and Hathaway is a bit of throwaway fun.

You might also like the more offbeat stuff on Acorn like Agatha Raisin, No Offense, or Strange Calls. You also have the spycatcher series of Palfrey of Westminster.

Posted by: whig at January 23, 2023 05:35 PM (bDjBG)

312 Nothing after the first movie makes any sense.
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Addendum: Except that they could make ten billion dollars or whatever. That I understand and appreciate.

Posted by: Name the CIA Director installed by Ford after #DeepState Removed Nixon at January 23, 2023 05:35 PM (OeAlt)

313 Nood.

Posted by: Hapless Henchman at January 23, 2023 05:35 PM (PiwSw)

314 Didn't Powers Boothe play Marlowe?

I watched an interview with Mel Blanc and it occurs to me that these accents (Bogart's Brooklyn) are gone forever. Radio didn't wipe them out but television has.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 23, 2023 05:36 PM (44ww/)

315 N.Lurker that I am sure

Posted by: Skip at January 23, 2023 05:36 PM (xhxe8)

316 It was Hee Haw every Saturday Night for me growing up. I also remember watching "Solid Gold" the same evening.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at January 23, 2023 05:36 PM (ssESX)

317 Are there any actresses around today who could play a 30s dame?
Posted by: N.Lurker at January 23, 2023 05:33 PM (eGTCV)

Kate Beckinsale

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 23, 2023 05:36 PM (4I/2K)

318 +1 what Lamont Cranston mentions. Continental Op series by Hammett ranks up with the original Saint series written by Leslie Charteris.

Posted by: whig at January 23, 2023 05:37 PM (bDjBG)

319

Starting the GoLytely now. To spare the refined, dare I say elevated tastes of our day walkers I shall not describe the ensuing process, and merely refer you to the Slim Pickin's scene inside the Japanese submarine...

Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at January 23, 2023 05:37 PM (PmxKf)

320 I went to Disney world as a past 29 rear old with 5 and 6 year old girls in the early 90s. Woluld not go by myself now, certainly not with children.

Posted by: Eromero at January 23, 2023 05:37 PM (0OP+5)

321 @306
After shooting 200 people in the head, it would just become monotonous. The thrill would be gone if I was John Wick.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at January 23, 2023 05:38 PM (ssESX)

322 > Are there any actresses around today who could play a 30s dame?

No, all the painfully skinny, moonfaced chicks in Hollywood have implants. Maybe if they CGI'd the actors flat.

Posted by: bonhomme at January 23, 2023 05:40 PM (eyxn4)

323 I'm-a coming, Elizabeth!!

Posted by: Clint Eastwood at January 23, 2023 05:42 PM (nakGR)

324 Now I can finally say off damn sock.

Posted by: Corona at January 23, 2023 05:43 PM (nakGR)

325 1) If lusting after Ruby Rose in a suit is ghey ... well fine then.
Posted by: BourbonChicken

Too many tats to be taken seriously.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 23, 2023 05:45 PM (qoGsy)

326 Scott is doing a new Aliens movie right?

That's scary.

Posted by: blaster at January 23, 2023 05:49 PM (pwExq)

327 Marlowe talks like Chandler writes. Read his essay "The Simple Art of Murder" - which is just a simple recounting of the evolution of the detective story from August Dupuin through Holmes and Christie to where it was in Chandler's day - and you can _smell_ the whiskey and cigarettes; you can see the bulge in Chandler's pocket from the hot gat he took off the gunsel who tried to roll him in the alley on the way in.

Posted by: Daniel Ream at January 23, 2023 05:50 PM (NHmYR)

328 Bonanza and Wild Wild West were on Sundays.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 23, 2023 05:51 PM (3gh+6)

329 Are there any actresses around today who could play a 30s dame?

No, all the painfully skinny, moonfaced chicks in Hollywood have implants. Maybe if they CGI'd the actors flat.
Posted by: bonhomme at January 23, 2023 05:40 PM (eyxn4)

Blake Lively would be good as a 30's dame.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 23, 2023 05:52 PM (3gh+6)

330 My kids are still complaining about seeing "Strange World." The only reason they went is because my ex-wife's boyfriend only lets his kids see PG or G rated movies. Big surprise for him.

Posted by: Eddie Baby at January 23, 2023 06:08 PM (wpJDK)

331 I like the cut of this new-guy Lamont's jib, as well as his detailed understanding of Phillip Marlowe. Man, with posts his, I wouldn't even need to read the comments, I could come here to read the posts even.

Andrew Klavan's take on the three hard boiled detectives (maybe not unique) was interesting and got me to read a few. He posits that each was different response to the cultural crisis of the two world wars, and the loss of cultural identity and hope. Marlowe represented chivalry, a man of such honor that he could never say he was such. Chandler wrote an essay about it. Hammer was the Strong-Man solution, and Spade was Nihilism or existentialism or something (nihilism doesn't really fit him in The Maltese Falcon)

Posted by: .87c at January 23, 2023 06:19 PM (adg3A)

332 How do you feel about "Marlowe"? The movie where James Garner played Marlowe. Bruce Lee made an appearance, too. It came out in 1969.

Posted by: Paul at January 23, 2023 06:30 PM (FNevv)

333 Yeah, I don't watch anything with Neeson anymore. Not after he started his anti-gun crap...while making the Taken movie series where he shoots everyone he meets.

Nice try, Liam. Slán go foill!

Posted by: RobertM at January 23, 2023 07:05 PM (+/lOf)

334 308 "While Jim inseminates the Cape Buffalo—"
"IT'S NOT A COW, IT'S NOW A COW!"
"I'd like to talk to you about Mutual of Omaha life insurance..."
'HELP ME ASSHOLE! AAAAAAAGH!"

Posted by: richard mcenroe at January 23, 2023 07:11 PM (8fxF+)

335 Conned the husband into going to see Plane last weekend, we both really liked it (and he's not a big movie fan). Low key action movie where people behave like real people might, the story makes sense (ish), no crazy special effects. Plus Gerard Butler makes me all swoonie and heart eyed.

Posted by: Michele F at January 23, 2023 07:42 PM (GDWB0)

336 65 Movies that got Marlowe right: The Big Sleep with Bogart, Murder my Sweet with Dick Powell. Powell is particularly good at being a smug, know it all prick...because Marlowe was a smug, know it all prick. But both actor interpretations have that underlayer of toughness under the snappy comebacks.

Loved Murder, My Sweet for a few reasons. The title change from Farewell, My Lovely was because Dick Powell had been in mostly romances before this movie, and they didn't want to accidentally draw in an unsuspecting audience.

And the best line from any detective comes after the femme fatale says, "I find men very attractive." He casually gives her a once-over and says, "I imagine they meet you halfway."

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Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
News/Chat

Ann Coulter
National Review Online
The Perfect World
Free Republic
Lucianne
The Note

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