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Alec Baldwin Charged With Involuntary Manslaughter of Director of "Rust"

alecbaldwinonphone.jpg
"Hola, Ilarrria, you will not believe el dio that I am having!
Ay, Dios mio! Donde do I start?!
First, they send a Lexus SUV to pick me up instead of the Escalade in my rider.
Pues, there's this whole mishegas with a revolver and I can't even!
I can't even, Ilarrrria! I can't even! No puedo mas!"

They say you shouldn't kick a man when he's down. I've never understood that. Whe you shouldn't kick him is when he's on his feet in a fighting stance, expecting it. When he's down is the perfect time.


The film's armorer was charged with the same crime.

I'm always saying, "I predicted this."

I definitely did not predict this.

I will predict a plea deal with no jail, though.

But I was wrong once already.

"Involuntary" means not willful, not intended. Negligent, in other words. This is what other jurisdictions might call criminally negligent homicide. Which is the right charge.

Alec Baldwin will be criminally charged in connection with the "Rust" shooting that left cinematographer Halyna Hutchins dead, prosecutors said Thursday.

New Mexico prosecutors will charge Baldwin and armorer Hannah Gutierrez-Reed with two federal counts of involuntary manslaughter over the death of Hutchins on the "Rust" film set in October 2021, when a real bullet was loaded into a prop gun.

Assistant director David Halls, who handed Baldwin the loaded gun, accepted a misdemeanor charge in a plea deal.

"If any one of these three people -- Alec Baldwin, Hannah Gutierrez-Reed or David Halls -- had done their job, Halyna Hutchins would be alive today. It's that simple," special prosecutor Andrea Reeb said.

Baldwin and Gutierrez-Reed will both be charged "in the alternative," meaning the jury will decide which of the two charges -- involuntary manslaughter or involuntary manslaughter in the commission of a lawful act -- they are or are not guilty of. Both felony charges hold a maximum prison sentence of 18 months and a fine of up to $5,000.

The expected thing to do was just to not file charges. Yes, the DA would have been criticized for going easy on a Hollywood bigshot, but people expected this sort of thing. It's standard corruption, standard easy treatment for the "elite." Criticism would have gone away in two weeks because, as the Joker says, it's all part of the plan.

So what I'm wondering is, how badly did Alec Baldwin misbehave and anger the prosecutors to spur them into charging him?

Answer: A commenter reminds me that Alec Baldwin has constantly lied about not pulling the trigger, which is a stupid lie told just for the sake of defeating an eventual prosecution. So I guess the prosecutors figure, well, if you're already working towards the jury trial, let's have one.

I don't think there will be a trial. If there is, Nick Rekieta will wind up with a new house.

Posted by: Ace at 12:00 PM




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1 Hi Ace

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 19, 2023 12:01 PM (Y+l9t)

2
I imagine a lot of stuff in Alec Baldwins house is going to be smashed in the next 24 hours. Wifey better put away anything she wants to save.

Posted by: portlandon at January 19, 2023 12:01 PM (+oR7L)

3 Horey Crap!

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 19, 2023 12:02 PM (zZu0s)

4
Completely Justified.

Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at January 19, 2023 12:02 PM (sX1BW)

5 Dreary rainy here today.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 19, 2023 12:02 PM (Y+l9t)

6 They say you shouldn't kick a man when he's down. I've never understood that.

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"Cocking's for closers!"

Posted by: ShainS -- Ctrl+Galt+Delete to remove the The Great Reset malware virus at January 19, 2023 12:02 PM (BRmwW)

7 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 19, 2023 12:03 PM (Zz0t1)

8 Oh, I don't know. The consequences of a plea include becoming uninsurable. Is Alec mentally ready to not be an actor anymore? Can he afford to do so after a California divorce?

More likely he goes to jury trial and tries to hang the NRA for his crimes.

He's a very good actor and Santa Fe county is liberal as hell. It might well work.

Posted by: Oschisms at January 19, 2023 12:03 PM (0A5+1)

9 We need to make a meme with an ewok (full headdress) sitting at a news anchor's desk with 'Breaking News' on the screen behind him. The ewok is holding news copy.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 19, 2023 12:03 PM (zZu0s)

10 Hi sharon!

Posted by: ace at January 19, 2023 12:03 PM (C1Zwz)

11 I'm guessing six months of jail time for Aric Bardwin.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at January 19, 2023 12:03 PM (wmDcS)

12 He will be acquitted. She will be the fall guy.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 19, 2023 12:03 PM (Zz0t1)

13 Assistant director David Halls, who handed Baldwin the loaded gun, accepted a misdemeanor charge in a plea deal.

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Very smart.

Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at January 19, 2023 12:03 PM (sX1BW)

14 "They say you shouldn't kick a man when he's down. I've never understood that. When you shouldn't kick him is when he's on his feet in a fighting stance, expecting it. When he's down is the perfect time."

This is pretty quotable.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at January 19, 2023 12:04 PM (eYoxG)

15 >>>Oh, I don't know. The consequences of a plea include becoming uninsurable.

Surprised he was insurable before.

These podcast guys at I Hate Movies always call Tom Sizemore "The Uninsureable Tom Sizemore."

Posted by: ace at January 19, 2023 12:04 PM (C1Zwz)

16 Alec is getting divorced from his sometimes Spanish wife?

Caliente!

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 19, 2023 12:04 PM (zZu0s)

17 I think this is going nowhere. They already let one guy off. They'll have a trial and decide he didn't mean to do it so will get some kind of community service and never serve a day in jail.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 19, 2023 12:04 PM (Y+l9t)

18 So what I'm wondering is, how badly did Alec Baldwin misbehave and anger the prosecutors to spur them into charging him?

These scummy flyover prosecutors are less important than the dust beneath my feet!

Posted by: Alec! at January 19, 2023 12:04 PM (2tUFv)

19 Well that blew my call, thought he would escape from charges

Posted by: Skip at January 19, 2023 12:04 PM (Y63v2)

20 "criminally negligent homicide. Which is the right charge."

I can live with that. If Baldwin or the "armorer" decide to plead not guilty, maybe we finally get to see the video of the actual shooting.

Posted by: gp, Standing Up For What's Too Hard To Reach Whilst Sitting at January 19, 2023 12:05 PM (24fqN)

21 Dreary rainy here today.

Same here. Ugh.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 19, 2023 12:05 PM (Xrfse)

22 I'm guessing six months of jail time for Aric Bardwin.

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I'd bet against jail time. One thing he can offer is restitution. Well more so than most defendants could. That will probably help him.

Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at January 19, 2023 12:05 PM (sX1BW)

23 >>>This is pretty quotable.

it's a very old joke, I feel bad for using it, not sure where it's from.

I think they call that a "street joke," where attribution is unknown.

Posted by: ace at January 19, 2023 12:05 PM (C1Zwz)

24 So what I'm wondering is, how badly did Alec Baldwin misbehave and anger the prosecutors to spur them into charging him?

=========

He wouldn't take their calls.

He may be Hollywood, but they're important. They won't be taking this disrespect.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at January 19, 2023 12:05 PM (LvTSG)

25 IF
ONLY
ONE
PERSON
CHECKED
THE
GUN

Posted by: rd at January 19, 2023 12:05 PM (cPD52)

26 "I've been clear" KJP's relieved to not be on the front page for one day.

Posted by: Coki at January 19, 2023 12:05 PM (iN++2)

27 'Then, I involuntarily pulled the trigger.'

Convincing.

Posted by: garrett at January 19, 2023 12:05 PM (TmVxm)

28 What are the odds he relocates to France?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 19, 2023 12:05 PM (Zz0t1)

29 21 Dreary rainy here today.

Same here. Ugh.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 19, 2023 12:05 PM (Xrfse)

It is beautiful here at the moment. I seem to be the one coming down with something. Typical.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 19, 2023 12:05 PM (zZu0s)

30 23 >>>This is pretty quotable.

it's a very old joke, I feel bad for using it, not sure where it's from.

I think they call that a "street joke," where attribution is unknown.
Posted by: ace at January 19, 2023 12:05 PM (C1Zwz)

=========

"You stole it from MEEE!"
-Jonah Goldberg

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at January 19, 2023 12:06 PM (LvTSG)

31 I'm still here!

Posted by: Karma at January 19, 2023 12:06 PM (wgAtL)

32 Alec just found out he's expendable, as are all lefties.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at January 19, 2023 12:06 PM (SkWtJ)

33 Number of arrests. Alec Baldwin: 1 Donald Trump: 0.

Posted by: hadsil at January 19, 2023 12:06 PM (dBI7o)

34 Just looked at Colt's website...since the SAA is 150 yrs old. Seems they're only making it in 45 Colt.

Posted by: BignJames at January 19, 2023 12:06 PM (AwYPR)

35 Plea bargain, fine, no jail time, no probation, maybe some community service in whatever community he considers his home.

Posted by: huerfano at January 19, 2023 12:06 PM (dTFZY)

36 "The Uninsureable Tom Sizemore."

For Tom, the action is the juice!

Posted by: gp, Standing Up For What's Too Hard To Reach Whilst Sitting at January 19, 2023 12:06 PM (24fqN)

37 'Then, I involuntarily pulled the trigger.'

Convincing.
Posted by: garrett at January 19, 2023 12:05 PM (TmVxm)



Tourette's can be a bitch.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 19, 2023 12:06 PM (Zz0t1)

38 I will predict a plea deal with no jail, though.

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That's the way I'd bet.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2023 at January 19, 2023 12:06 PM (FVME7)

39 We need to make a meme with an ewok (full headdress) sitting at a news anchor's desk with 'Breaking News' on the screen behind him. The ewok is holding news copy.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 19, 2023 12:03 PM (zZu0s)

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With Tater's head mounted on the wall behind him.

Posted by: ShainS -- Ctrl+Galt+Delete to remove the The Great Reset malware virus at January 19, 2023 12:06 PM (BRmwW)

40 >>>For Tom, the action is the juice!

what does that mean?

Posted by: ace at January 19, 2023 12:07 PM (C1Zwz)

41 But the armorer was a stronk woman with tattoos!

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at January 19, 2023 12:07 PM (smHg8)

42 23 >>>This is pretty quotable.

it's a very old joke, I feel bad for using it, not sure where it's from.

I think they call that a "street joke," where attribution is unknown.
Posted by: ace at January 19, 2023 12:05 PM (C1Zwz)

A 'Blague de rue?'

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 19, 2023 12:07 PM (zZu0s)

43 "When he's down is the perfect time."

Logical.
Also tire irons, baseball bats would be acceptable.

Posted by: Bosk at January 19, 2023 12:07 PM (ZVuYy)

44 I think this is fair...

Posted by: It's me donna at January 19, 2023 12:07 PM (bs+z0)

45 Does this mean Alec can never own a firearm?

I still don't understand why real firearms even need to be on a movie set at all. Use an orange or blue plastic fake gun and CGI in whatever you want.

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 19, 2023 12:07 PM (xT61F)

46 >>I don't think there will be a trial. If there is, Nick Rekieta will wind up with a new house.


He'll trade in his Gold BallDo for a Platinum BallDo.

Posted by: garrett at January 19, 2023 12:07 PM (TmVxm)

47 Alec Baldwin has always been very clear, he takes gun safety very seriously, and he's been transparent and clear about that.

Posted by: Karine Jean-Pierre at January 19, 2023 12:07 PM (C1Zwz)

48 They are rebooting ESCAPE FROM NY and Snake is now a Woman. God I hate Hollywood

256 It will either be Leslie Jones or Lizzo.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 19, 2023 12:01 PM (Zz0t1)

Lizzo ? It will be a slow escape
Posted by: It's me donna at January 19, 2023 12:02 PM (bs+z0)

I am stealing this joke,

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 19, 2023 12:08 PM (dKiJG)

49 Heh. I forgot about Alec Baldwin's wife and her fake Spanish accent.

Posted by: Michael the Texan at January 19, 2023 12:08 PM (WjVlZ)

50 The rule of incorrigible assholes applies here: I don't care about the merits because Alec Baldwin is such an asshole that he deserves anything bad that happens to him.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at January 19, 2023 12:08 PM (KFhLj)

51 I will predict a plea deal with no jail, though.

-
That's the way I'd bet.

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How often do felony convictions result in no jail time?

Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at January 19, 2023 12:08 PM (sX1BW)

52 47 Alec Baldwin has always been very clear, he takes gun safety very seriously, and he's been transparent and clear about that.
Posted by: Karine Jean-Pierre at January 19, 2023 12:07 PM (C1Zwz)

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"He has taken responsibility, so prosecuting him through the law is unjust."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at January 19, 2023 12:08 PM (LvTSG)

53 "They say you shouldn't kick a man when he's down. I've never understood that. When you shouldn't kick him is when he's on his feet in a fighting stance, expecting it. When he's down is the perfect time."



Balls.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 19, 2023 12:08 PM (Zz0t1)

54 53 "They say you shouldn't kick a man when he's down. I've never understood that. When you shouldn't kick him is when he's on his feet in a fighting stance, expecting it. When he's down is the perfect time."



Balls.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 19, 2023 12:08 PM (Zz0t1)

=========

"Ow! My balls!"
-George C. Scott

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at January 19, 2023 12:08 PM (LvTSG)

55 I'd bet against jail time. One thing he can offer is restitution. Well more so than most defendants could. That will probably help him.
Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at January 19, 2023 12:05 PM (sX1BW)


That will get him down to six months. This seems like a pretty open and shut case, and the prosecutors will be looking to make a name for themselves.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at January 19, 2023 12:08 PM (wmDcS)

56 >>>I still don't understand why real firearms even need to be on a movie set at all. Use an orange or blue plastic fake gun and CGI in whatever you want.

i think I disagree. I forget why, but I saw some people explaining why you had to have real guns at least for some purposes and it made sense.

Posted by: ace at January 19, 2023 12:08 PM (C1Zwz)

57 "I know someone is at fault. I also know it's not me."

- - Alec Baldwin

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 19, 2023 12:08 PM (Zz0t1)

58 The whole thing is sad. Nobody really "wins" here. The family won't get their loved one back, and this clown has finally destroyed himself with his arrogance.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 19, 2023 12:09 PM (wgAtL)

59 As Baldwyn didn't even need to fire the gun for the scene, he is part of the armorer's accident.

Posted by: Axeman at January 19, 2023 12:09 PM (krQz2)

60 what does that mean?

Sizemore in the movie Heat.

Posted by: Bosk at January 19, 2023 12:09 PM (ZVuYy)

61 "what does that mean?"

One of his lines from "Heat" (1995). It's so silly that I use it occasionally.

Posted by: gp, Standing Up For What's Too Hard To Reach Whilst Sitting at January 19, 2023 12:09 PM (24fqN)

62 Willowed and semi-related in that it concerns society's response to death.

Also from the Britain formerly known as Great. Father arrested for double plus no good wrong think for praying for his aborted son.

https://bit.ly/3wyFFYx

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2023 at January 19, 2023 12:09 PM (FVME7)

63 56 >>>I still don't understand why real firearms even need to be on a movie set at all. Use an orange or blue plastic fake gun and CGI in whatever you want.

i think I disagree. I forget why, but I saw some people explaining why you had to have real guns at least for some purposes and it made sense.
Posted by: ace at January 19, 2023 12:08 PM (C1Zwz)

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Fake guns generally look pretty fake. Faking recoil looks really fake.

I mean...you can do it. It just looks bad.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at January 19, 2023 12:09 PM (LvTSG)

64 This thing has taken 18 months to get only this far? Jeez.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 19, 2023 12:09 PM (J2vNu)

65 The rule of incorrigible assholes applies here: I don't care about the merits because Alec Baldwin is such an asshole that he deserves anything bad that happens to him.

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Just remember the real crimes are not wearing the gay ribbon.

Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at January 19, 2023 12:09 PM (sX1BW)

66 He's got that Jeff Bridges look going on in that picture.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 19, 2023 12:09 PM (Zz0t1)

67 It would be nice to see him sharing a cell with the inmate they call the Animal. And for a tooth brush he has to use Animal's old toe fungus brushes, because lets face it, toe fungus is a national prison health problem.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 19, 2023 12:09 PM (anj39)

68 Thing is, if he admits to pulling the trigger, then the insurance underwriters won't insure him anymore.

So he can't admit to pulling the trigger.

So he has to go to trial.

(Remember Bill Clinton, when told that the American people would never forgive him for Lewinsky, responded: "Well, we'll just have to win then.")

That's his model.

Posted by: Oschisms at January 19, 2023 12:09 PM (0A5+1)

69 >>>They are rebooting ESCAPE FROM NY and Snake is now a Woman. God I hate Hollywood

is this real?

Of course it's real. I hate Hollywood, it's so stupid.

Posted by: ace at January 19, 2023 12:09 PM (C1Zwz)

70 So this sanctimonious gun-grabbing piece of shit with the hair trigger temper is being charged for manslaughter. Sounds fair.

Posted by: mr tmz at January 19, 2023 12:09 PM (rJ48h)

71 You can't catch or spread COVID while talking on your phone.

Posted by: Egg shortages are easily recognized by the overabundance of eggs on grocers shelves at January 19, 2023 12:09 PM (9IIFw)

72 Alec Baldwin has always been very clear, he takes gun safety very seriously, and he's been transparent and clear about that.
Posted by: Karine Jean-Pierre at January 19, 2023 12:07 PM (C1Zwz)

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"He has taken responsibility, so prosecuting him through the law is unjust."


Also, we are allowing his lawyers to do the crime scene investigation, for reasons even we can't understand.

Posted by: Archimedes at January 19, 2023 12:09 PM (eOEVl)

73 34 Just looked at Colt's website...since the SAA is 150 yrs old. Seems they're only making it in 45 Colt.
Posted by: BignJames at January 19, 2023 12:06 PM (AwYPR)

Ruger Vaquero Bisley. Blued. Rosewood grips. Came in .357, .44 and .45 Colt.

I saw one in a local gun shop recently. The one I theoretically lost in a canoe accident was $399 in '98. This one was used and $799.

And like a moron, I did not buy it and bought something else instead. I swear, one of these days I will actually walk into a gun shop and buy the thing I came in for.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 19, 2023 12:10 PM (zZu0s)

74 I'm sure they already offered a plea deal with no jail time - one assistant director took it and got 6 months probation (and of course, will now probably testify)...

Posted by: Nova Local at January 19, 2023 12:10 PM (exHjb)

75 >>I still don't understand why real firearms even need to be on a movie set at all. Use an orange or blue plastic fake gun and CGI in whatever you want.



They could do a ton more to mitigate the risk.
Physically altering the weapon to make it inert, yet still use a real firearm.

Posted by: garrett at January 19, 2023 12:10 PM (TmVxm)

76
So what I'm wondering is, how badly did Alec Baldwin misbehave and anger the prosecutors to spur them into charging him?

__________

Likely Alec was Alec

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 19, 2023 12:10 PM (MoZTd)

77 "They say you shouldn't kick a man when he's down. I've never understood that. When you shouldn't kick him is when he's on his feet in a fighting stance, expecting it. When he's down is the perfect time."

the Scottish martial art known as "feck yeew!"

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gen X Ne'er-Do-Well at January 19, 2023 12:10 PM (xPJvm)

78 Alec Baldwin charged? Oh no!

Anyway...

Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 19, 2023 12:10 PM (u73oe)

79 That's a shame.

Posted by: Jerry Seinfeld Eating Popcorn at January 19, 2023 12:10 PM (VTu1l)

80 Baldwin needs to go full jury trial to prove it wasn't his fault, and the networks should fund to him for him to do this.

It would be a ratings bonanza for CNN/MSNBC, as it would replace their non-existance schedulesl. Wall-to-wall coverage for $1M (from each network) to Baldwin for his "defense" for 3 weeks worth of trial is money well spent for them.

He'll still be convicted of Manslaughter and get 18 months, but he'll be +$millions out of the deal.

Posted by: Scott_T at January 19, 2023 12:10 PM (2waQ7)

81 So when is the movie going to be released?

Posted by: humphreyrobot at January 19, 2023 12:10 PM (PNaSX)

82 Bubba is cleaning up his cell in anticipation of his new cellie.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at January 19, 2023 12:10 PM (vnbvx)

83 I have yet to see Baldwin express any sorrow over the incident. Or take any responsibility. That might be why he is being charged. Maybe.

More likely he pissed off the D.A. somehow as Ace has speculated.

Posted by: Darth Randall at January 19, 2023 12:10 PM (Z41N/)

84 "I've been clear" KJP's relieved to not be on the front page for one day.

Posted by: Coki at January 19, 2023 12:05 PM (iN++2)

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An hour is a long time in ClownWorld politics ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Ctrl+Galt+Delete to remove the The Great Reset malware virus at January 19, 2023 12:10 PM (BRmwW)

85 >>>They are rebooting ESCAPE FROM NY and Snake is now a Woman. God I hate Hollywood


So. She trades a BJ or three and gets out, unscathed?

Not real exciting.

Posted by: garrett at January 19, 2023 12:11 PM (TmVxm)

86 How often do felony convictions result in no jail time?
Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at January 19, 2023 12:08 PM (sX1BW)
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Probably the same frequency that they involve celebrities.

Posted by: Axeman at January 19, 2023 12:11 PM (krQz2)

87 "They are rebooting ESCAPE FROM NY and Snake is now a Woman. God I hate Hollywood "

Just like National Treasure. Which for some reason I found intriguing.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 19, 2023 12:11 PM (wgAtL)

88 As much of a prick as Baldwin is, I hold the armorer responsible for this situation, not him. It was her job to make sure the gun wasn't loaded.

Baldwin shouldn't have been waving it around--I feel like they drilled that lesson into our heads pretty hard at the gun safety course--but then, he was also well within his rights to expect that if the armorer gave him a gun, it was safe to use.

Posted by: Dr. T at January 19, 2023 12:11 PM (bhRsz)

89 Give me an indictment, Vasily. One indictment only please.

Posted by: Roy at January 19, 2023 12:11 PM (uk9+a)

90 is this real?

Of course it's real. I hate Hollywood, it's so stupid.

Posted by: ace at January 19, 2023 12:09 PM (C1Zwz)



It will be casted with Leslie Jones or Lizzo as Snake Plissken.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 19, 2023 12:11 PM (Zz0t1)

91 >>>Faking recoil looks really fake.

yes that's a big thing. It's common to just use special effects to put in fake gun flares and fake shots entirely, but you can tell no one's shooting. I think the Corridor Crew digital effects guys point that out.

Posted by: ace at January 19, 2023 12:11 PM (C1Zwz)

92 Considering the report from the beginning he threatened the woman though probably had no idea it was not loaded with a live round and not a blank he might be getting off a little bit

Posted by: Skip at January 19, 2023 12:11 PM (Y63v2)

93 69 >>>They are rebooting ESCAPE FROM NY and Snake is now a Woman. God I hate Hollywood

is this real?

Of course it's real. I hate Hollywood, it's so stupid.

Posted by: ace at January 19, 2023 12:09 PM (C1Zwz)

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When informed they had not cast the film and it was unclear whether it was a remake or a third film, Carpenter responded, “Hey, great. The last I heard was they were developing it where Snake would be a woman. But, no, I haven’t heard about this latest thing.”

They've been trying to reboot EfNY for at least 15 years. I don't see how this effort is going to be any more successful than the one with Gerard Butler when Gerard Butler was actually a thing.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at January 19, 2023 12:11 PM (LvTSG)

94 > The film's armorer was charged with the same crime.

Was she allowed in the room? Was she even on set that day?

Posted by: bonhomme at January 19, 2023 12:11 PM (KRe1G)

95 Should it have taken investigators 15 months to nail down the chain of custody of the gun and the ammunition? Or is it another example of courts being reflexive procrastinators?

Posted by: Art Deco at January 19, 2023 12:11 PM (1BrBu)

96 Color me amused at this. Personally, I thought he'd skate. I bet he did too. Wonder if there will be some sort of deal made here?

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 19, 2023 12:11 PM (Q4IgG)

97 What are the odds he relocates to France?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 19, 2023 12:05 PM (Zz0t1)

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Amber Heard is tanned, rested, available, and presently constipated!

Posted by: ShainS -- Ctrl+Galt+Delete to remove the The Great Reset malware virus at January 19, 2023 12:11 PM (BRmwW)

98 86 How often do felony convictions result in no jail time?
Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at January 19, 2023 12:08 PM (sX1BW)
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Probably the same frequency that they involve celebrities.
Posted by: Axeman at January 19, 2023 12:11 PM (krQz2)

If you plead - a lot.
If you take it to the box and waste a judge's time - very, very, very few.

Judges hate having their time wasted...

Posted by: Nova Local at January 19, 2023 12:11 PM (exHjb)

99 The rule of incorrigible assholes applies here: I don't care about the merits because Alec Baldwin is such an asshole that he deserves anything bad that happens to him.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at January 19, 2023 12:08 PM (KFhLj)

I feel the same way about the guy who killed my wife!

Posted by: OJ Simpson at January 19, 2023 12:12 PM (XIJ/X)

100 I think they pointed out that, as good as stuff looked in John Wick, you could tell all the gun shots were fake and put in with the AfterEffects special effects program.

Posted by: ace at January 19, 2023 12:12 PM (C1Zwz)

101 Does make you wonder. At this point everyone figured he wasn't getting charged and the prosecutor could have just let it quietly slip away.

The other big question is why did they wait so long? It was on film they had that day 1.

Posted by: blaster at January 19, 2023 12:12 PM (pwExq)

102 Si... I will keek Senior Alec in hees Que komber if he not come home.

Posted by: Hilarious Baldwin at January 19, 2023 12:12 PM (flINI)

103 Alec Baldwin has always been very clear, he takes gun safety very seriously, and he's been transparent and clear about that. Posted by: Karine Jean-Pierre

******************

On a serious note, have you noticed Xbama and all of xis underlings seem to have this weird obsession with the word clear?

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at January 19, 2023 12:12 PM (VTu1l)

104 Just simple training. Anybody who touches a firearm has to go to a brief safety course. When handed a gun, you make sure it's unloaded. When the time comes to load it, you and the armorer will inspect every round to make sure it's a blank. Any violation gets a stun gun to the privates.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at January 19, 2023 12:12 PM (lz5hY)

105 91 >>>Faking recoil looks really fake.

yes that's a big thing. It's common to just use special effects to put in fake gun flares and fake shots entirely, but you can tell no one's shooting. I think the Corridor Crew digital effects guys point that out.
Posted by: ace at January 19, 2023 12:11 PM (C1Zwz)

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Yeah, they've done a few vides on it, but it's just obvious on any low-budget action movie made after the barrel flash plugin became free in about 2002. It's cheaper to add in that plugin rather than get real guns, an armorer, and blanks.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at January 19, 2023 12:12 PM (LvTSG)

106 I CAN believe it's not butter.

Bastards!

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at January 19, 2023 12:12 PM (PyOKD)

107 Possibly a divorce to divide 1/2 of his assets so only a portion is in any jeopardy?

Posted by: Skip at January 19, 2023 12:13 PM (Y63v2)

108 They are rebooting ESCAPE FROM NY and Snake is now a Woman.

That’s so predictable it’s boring now. I assume she’s also fat and black and some kind of sexual deviant?

Posted by: Ian S. at January 19, 2023 12:13 PM (7lG2i)

109 as liberal as Santa Fe and Albuquerque is, I am totally shocked at this. But they will let him off when he drags his dozen children into the courtroom.

Posted by: megthered at January 19, 2023 12:13 PM (iLvV2)

110 Just looked at Colt's website...since the SAA is 150 yrs old. Seems they're only making it in 45 Colt.
Posted by: BignJames


Better than Ruger. Seems they ain't making ANY Vaqueros anymore.

Posted by: rickb223 Gone Galt at January 19, 2023 12:13 PM (jwRpK)

111 69 >>>They are rebooting ESCAPE FROM NY and Snake is now a Woman. God I hate Hollywood

is this real?

Of course it's real. I hate Hollywood, it's so stupid.

Posted by: ace at January 19, 2023 12:09 PM (C1Zwz)

Bounding into Comics posted it,

https://tinyurl.com/2s3teah4

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 19, 2023 12:13 PM (dKiJG)

112 I think they pointed out that, as good as stuff looked in John Wick, you could tell all the gun shots were fake and put in with the AfterEffects special effects program.
Posted by: ace at January 19, 2023 12:12 PM (C1Zwz)



"John Wick is so strong, recoil doesn't exist."

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 19, 2023 12:13 PM (Zz0t1)

113 Voluntary means the threat to the persons life was significant, immediate, and recognizable. That's what you'd get if you pointed a gun you knew to be loaded with live ammo at someone, and suffered an accidental discharge. Drunk driving deaths often fall under this.

Believing the gun had blanks doesn't really pass that test. Involuntary means you had a personal responsibility to eliminate the risk which became fatal but the risk in question doesn't meet the above standard.

Posted by: mikethemoose at January 19, 2023 12:13 PM (T/vhV)

114 Play stupid games.......

Posted by: Eromero at January 19, 2023 12:13 PM (1vBNQ)

115 "he was also well within his rights to expect that if the armorer gave him a gun, it was safe to use."

I'm not a lawyer, so I don't know about his rights. But it is far beyond the bounds of basic gun safety and common sense. He bears some responsibility for checking the weapon when it was handed to him, as we ALL DO in EVERY gun handling situation.

Posted by: gp, Standing Up For What's Too Hard To Reach Whilst Sitting at January 19, 2023 12:13 PM (24fqN)

116 101 Does make you wonder. At this point everyone figured he wasn't getting charged and the prosecutor could have just let it quietly slip away.

The other big question is why did they wait so long? It was on film they had that day 1.
Posted by: blaster at January 19, 2023 12:12 PM (pwExq)

Probably waited to lock up the one plea deal, and then see if they'd get more - they didn't, so now it's January, after all the holidays, and time to proceed.

Posted by: Nova Local at January 19, 2023 12:13 PM (exHjb)

117 >>They are rebooting ESCAPE FROM NY and Snake is now a Woman.


They are gonna change her name to Clam, though. Right?

Posted by: garrett at January 19, 2023 12:14 PM (TmVxm)

118 I still don't understand why real firearms even need to be on a movie set at all. Use an orange or blue plastic fake gun and CGI in whatever you want.
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I believe that they used CG for some of the gunshots in the John Wick films. They were engaging at such close ranges that there would be no way to safely use conventional blanks.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at January 19, 2023 12:14 PM (XlE1Z)

119 IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE, BALDWIN WOULD PROBABLY LIKE BEING CONFINED IN POUND ME IN THE ASS PRISON.

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at January 19, 2023 12:14 PM (D25PY)

120 Yeah so what I'm saying is they charged him with the max.

Posted by: mikethemoose at January 19, 2023 12:14 PM (T/vhV)

121 "As much of a prick as Baldwin is, I hold the armorer responsible for this situation, not him. It was her job to make sure the gun wasn't loaded. "

I'm going to disagree. In the end, it is the person handling the weapon who has the responsibility to check fit and function. You act as a team with the armorer to ensure safe handling and use. That way there is a two-way safety check. They both own this.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 19, 2023 12:14 PM (wgAtL)

122 Posted on the last thread:

Revised: April 16, 2003 Page 1 of 4
INDUSTRY WIDE LABOR-MANAGEMENT SAFETY COMMITTEE
SAFETY BULLETIN #1
RECOMMENDATIONS FOR SAFETY WITH FIREARMS AND USE OF
"BLANK AMMUNITION"
BLANKS CAN KILL. TREAT ALL FIREARMS AS THOUGH THEY ARE LOADED.
"LIVE AMMUNITION" IS NEVER TO BE USED NOR BROUGHT ONTO ANY STUDIO
LOT OR STAGE...

https://tinyurl.com/2eeul7yf

So I guess it was just an OSHA violation.

Posted by: Egg shortages are easily recognized by the overabundance of eggs on grocers shelves at January 19, 2023 12:14 PM (9IIFw)

123 Best gun movies:
That one where Jimmy Cagney almost got shot
John Wick
I actually thought Underworld was decent (except for the whole shoot your way through the floor thing- just fucking walk! woman.)

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 19, 2023 12:14 PM (zZu0s)

124 but then, he was also well within his rights to expect that if the armorer gave him a gun, it was safe to use.

Posted by: Dr. T at January 19, 2023 12:11 PM (bhRsz)

Eh...I guess in Hollywood, which is steeped in make-believe. But in the real world? Absolutely not.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 19, 2023 12:14 PM (XIJ/X)

125 They could do a ton more to mitigate the risk.
Physically altering the weapon to make it inert, yet still use a real firearm.
Posted by: garrett at January 19, 2023 12:10 PM (TmVxm)

We had drill rifles (1903 Springfield) where the barrel was completely filed with lead. Military surplus, no telling where those rifles had been.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at January 19, 2023 12:14 PM (UuD2k)

126
Judges hate having their time wasted...
Posted by: Nova Local at January 19, 2023 12:11 PM (exHjb)



How DARE they be expected to do their jobs.......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 19, 2023 12:14 PM (Zz0t1)

127 I don't see how this effort is going to be any more successful than the one with Gerard Butler when Gerard Butler was actually a thing.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at January 19, 2023 12:11 PM (LvTSG)


What? Was this a failed project or something?

Posted by: blaster at January 19, 2023 12:14 PM (pwExq)

128 They are gonna change her name to Clam, though. Right?
Posted by: garrett at January 19, 2023 12:14 PM (TmVxm)

Snizz Plisken

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 19, 2023 12:14 PM (zZu0s)

129 When you shouldn't kick him is when he's on his feet in a fighting stance, expecting it.

Correct. That's when you sweep the leg.

Posted by: Daniel-san at January 19, 2023 12:15 PM (a3Q+t)

130 Breaking news: Debt Ceiling BREACHED!!!

Gah!

Posted by: Ziba at January 19, 2023 12:15 PM (4h9M3)

131 They are rebooting ESCAPE FROM NY and Snake is now a Woman. God I hate Hollywood

is this real?

Of course it's real. I hate Hollywood, it's so stupid.

Posted by: ace at January 19, 2023 12:09 PM (C1Zwz)

So wrong.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at January 19, 2023 12:15 PM (PyOKD)

132 Speaking of Nick Reketia, he has been covering two stories this week.

1. Crowder exposing predatory talent / content contracts from "Conservative" Media, and "The Daily Wire" reply that confirmed just how bad it is.

2. The Pedophile Gay Couple in Georgia that adopted two special needs kids, sexually abused them and shared the videos of the couple abusing them. He covered two of the in progress four part report by Mia Cathell at Townhall.

Posted by: rd at January 19, 2023 12:15 PM (cPD52)

133 >>1 "As much of a prick as Baldwin is, I hold the armorer responsible for this situation, not him. It was her job to make sure the gun wasn't loaded. "


It's NEVER not YOUR job to make sure a weapon is safe.


Never.

Posted by: garrett at January 19, 2023 12:15 PM (TmVxm)

134 126
Judges hate having their time wasted...
Posted by: Nova Local at January 19, 2023 12:11 PM (exHjb)


How DARE they be expected to do their jobs.......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 19, 2023 12:14 PM (Zz0t1)

Yup - they are government workers, too...

Posted by: Nova Local at January 19, 2023 12:15 PM (exHjb)

135 They are rebooting ESCAPE FROM NY and Snake is now a Woman

***********

And probably played by a flat chested, androgynous creature such as the terminator in Dark Fate

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at January 19, 2023 12:15 PM (VTu1l)

136 127 I don't see how this effort is going to be any more successful than the one with Gerard Butler when Gerard Butler was actually a thing.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at January 19, 2023 12:11 PM (LvTSG)

What? Was this a failed project or something?
Posted by: blaster at January 19, 2023 12:14 PM (pwExq)

========

Yeah, it was right after 300. He was the new action-It guy, and he got into talks to star as Snake. It never came to fruition, of course.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at January 19, 2023 12:15 PM (LvTSG)

137 WAIT, does New Mexico have the Alford plea?

Because that's the only way Alec can cop out of this case and still not admit to pulling the trigger.

Posted by: Oschisms at January 19, 2023 12:15 PM (0A5+1)

138 What is the over/under on how long it will take Baldwin to assault a reporter/photographer in one of those NYC news scrums? One day , two days, three hours?

Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 19, 2023 12:15 PM (dHzaG)

139 Just like National Treasure. Which for some reason I found intriguing.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 19, 2023 12:11 PM (wgAtL)


I watched the first episode of that. Rest of the family enjoyed it, I didn't. The protagonist being a DREAMer was bad enough, but it was the whitewashing of Aztec history that really put me off.

Posted by: Dr. T at January 19, 2023 12:15 PM (bhRsz)

140 I feel the same way about the guy who killed my wife!
Posted by: OJ Simpson at January 19, 2023 12:12 PM (XIJ/X)

***

Jeesus I like this guy. If you can't do the time don't do the crime.

Posted by: Robert Blake at January 19, 2023 12:15 PM (flINI)

141
They are gonna change her name to Clam, though. Right?
Posted by: garrett at January 19, 2023 12:14 PM (TmVxm)



Clam. Bearded Clam.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 19, 2023 12:15 PM (Zz0t1)

142 Two "federal" counts of manslaughter? That makes no sense. I'm pretty sure there is no such federal crime. And if there was, in would not be within a New Mexico prosecutor's authority to charge.

Posted by: mattman26 at January 19, 2023 12:16 PM (1fnam)

143 The basic plot of EfNY no longer makes sense. No one would risk life and limb to rescue one of our vice presidents.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at January 19, 2023 12:16 PM (KFhLj)

144 Ruger Vaquero Bisley. Blued. Rosewood grips. Came in .357, .44 and .45 Colt.

I saw one in a local gun shop recently. The one I theoretically lost in a canoe accident was $399 in '98. This one was used and $799.

And like a moron, I did not buy it and bought something else instead. I swear, one of these days I will actually walk into a gun shop and buy the thing I came in for.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 19, 2023 12:10 PM (zZu0s)

Colt lists thiers for....$1799...yeah, no.

Posted by: BignJames at January 19, 2023 12:16 PM (AwYPR)

145 I believe that they used CG for some of the gunshots in the John Wick films. They were engaging at such close ranges that there would be no way to safely use conventional blanks.
-----

I want to say that I read or saw where some new tech was used extensively in that movie, too, so that the guns' actions would cycle using batteries and it might even eject what looked like a spent cartridge, but the items the actors were holding weren't guns and were incapable of firing anything. The flashes were added in post production (I think that's the right term)

Posted by: Egg shortages are easily recognized by the overabundance of eggs on grocers shelves at January 19, 2023 12:16 PM (9IIFw)

146 >>Snizz Plisken


Noice!

Posted by: garrett at January 19, 2023 12:16 PM (TmVxm)

147 The best gun movie is Equilibrium, with Christian Bale.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at January 19, 2023 12:16 PM (PiwSw)

148 How many war and Westerns made in the 50 and 60s with real firearms and no one was kklled?

Posted by: Skip at January 19, 2023 12:16 PM (Y63v2)

149 Max 18 months and $5k fine? Seems light to me for involuntary manslaughter.

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 19, 2023 12:17 PM (4I/2K)

150 >>>Snizz Plisken

lol

Posted by: ace at January 19, 2023 12:17 PM (C1Zwz)

151 Snake Fishskin

Posted by: Egg shortages are easily recognized by the overabundance of eggs on grocers shelves at January 19, 2023 12:17 PM (9IIFw)

152 He's got that Jeff Bridges look going on in that picture.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 19, 2023 12:09 PM (Zz0t1)

--------

"The Dude Abides."

Posted by: ShainS -- Ctrl+Galt+Delete to remove the The Great Reset malware virus at January 19, 2023 12:17 PM (BRmwW)

153
It's NEVER not YOUR job to make sure a weapon is safe.


Never.
Posted by: garrett at January 19, 2023 12:15 PM (TmVxm)



What?

Posted by: Plaxico Burress at January 19, 2023 12:17 PM (Zz0t1)

154 >>>he was also well within his rights to expect that if the armorer gave him a gun, it was safe to use.

That's why it's involuntary manslaughter. If he had shot the camera man during a scene shoot, it would likely be just the armorer. But since he had no legit reason to discharge the weapon at the director, along with his overall responsibility as producer to ensure a safe work environment, a strong argument could be made he was criminally negligent in that responsibility.

Posted by: mikethemoose at January 19, 2023 12:17 PM (T/vhV)

155 148 How many war and Westerns made in the 50 and 60s with real firearms and no one was kklled?
Posted by: Skip at January 19, 2023 12:16 PM (Y63v2)

========

In the 20s and early 30s, they hired real gunmen to shoot real bullets inches away from movie stars' heads to create bullet holes in shot.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at January 19, 2023 12:17 PM (LvTSG)

156 The Escape reboot could be worse. Snake could be a tranny

Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 19, 2023 12:17 PM (dHzaG)

157 Good

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at January 19, 2023 12:17 PM (XvPQV)

158 The best gun movie is Equilibrium, with Christian Bale.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at January 19, 2023 12:16 PM (PiwSw)

Collateral.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at January 19, 2023 12:17 PM (PyOKD)

159 Alec Baldwin now gets to understand that in flyover country the law is the law, and has to be treated with respect. Someone died, someone has to take responsibility for the death. He needed to have a lawyer prepare a legal rection to the event, plan a defense position, and at least make a lot of phone calls to influential people have to be made very quickly. If he has a lawyer working for him already, they suck and fail. Baldwin may escape jail time, but an actual trial will harm his reputation, it's still not La-La Land, and he'll still be liable for civil suit. The foolish armorer is likely getting jail time and her Hollywood career is over if she folds and takes the stand against Baldwin.

Posted by: exdem13 at January 19, 2023 12:18 PM (W+kMI)

160 Breaking news: Debt Ceiling BREACHED!!!

Gah!
Posted by: Ziba at January 19, 2023 12:15 PM (4h9M3)


=======================

On Tuesday, Janet Yellen said she had it all under control, and the Treasury was going to take emergency measures (stiffing people and not paying bills) that could extend the deadline to June.

So, Which is it!?!?

Posted by: rd at January 19, 2023 12:18 PM (cPD52)

161 Ace, did you watch the 1982 interview of the 1950s congressional investigator Norman Dodd?

https://tinyurl.com/2fe9f7tt

Worth the time if you haven't.

Posted by: Egg shortages are easily recognized by the overabundance of eggs on grocers shelves at January 19, 2023 12:18 PM (9IIFw)

162 No Coffin Dance, Ace?

I was so hoping.

Posted by: Lola at January 19, 2023 12:18 PM (p39Z2)

163 @93

>>They've been trying to reboot EfNY for at least 15 years. I don't see how this effort is going to be any more successful than the one with Gerard Butler when Gerard Butler was actually a thing.

Well, Butler isn't as big a star as Kurt Russel was and their is no way to capture the awesome inherent campiness and cheesiness of the first film in todays Hollywood.

It's essentially an unremakeable film.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 19, 2023 12:18 PM (sm3rd)

164
Snizz Plisken
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 19, 2023 12:14 PM (zZu0s)



Of the fartclam clan.

Posted by: Plaxico Burress at January 19, 2023 12:18 PM (Zz0t1)

165 This post makes me want shoot someone, accidentally.

Posted by: Alec Baldwin at January 19, 2023 12:18 PM (UXz3R)

166 Shucks.....

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 19, 2023 12:18 PM (Zz0t1)

167 >>>Snizz Plisken

lol

Posted by: ace at January 19, 2023 12:17 PM (C1Zwz)

I heard you transitioned, Snizz.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at January 19, 2023 12:18 PM (PyOKD)

168 > They are rebooting ESCAPE FROM NY and Snake is now a Woman.

Snake? I thought you were a man!

*procedes to repeat the *joke* over and over and over*

Posted by: bonhomme at January 19, 2023 12:18 PM (eyxn4)

169 Cab driver: "Snake, I thought you were dead!"

SP: "Well, I'm not, Karen, so shut up and drive."

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at January 19, 2023 12:18 PM (PiwSw)

170 Can't see how the charges against HG-R stick. Chain of custody to her was broken when the guns were left near the set in accordance with COVID restrictions that the producers, including Baldwin, implemented and were responsible for. Moreover, as the one in charge of the guns on set, all responsibility for their state of loading would fall on Halls since he would have known that the chain of custody was not intact and therefore the state of the guns was unknown.

Posted by: ravenshrike at January 19, 2023 12:18 PM (2s2/5)

171 14 "They say you shouldn't kick a man when he's down. I've never understood that. When you shouldn't kick him is when he's on his feet in a fighting stance, expecting it. When he's down is the perfect time."

My father always told me to kick the hell out of any man who was down so that they couldn't get back up again and harm me.

Posted by: kathysaysso at January 19, 2023 12:19 PM (m78jL)

172 And that explains why the NM AG was asking for a budget increase. Gonna cost a lot of money trying to put an actor in jail like he was Little People.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at January 19, 2023 12:19 PM (XvPQV)

173 Colt lists thiers for....$1799...yeah, no.
Posted by: BignJames at January 19, 2023 12:16 PM (AwYPR)

Ruger has been fucking with the more recent versions. They made the Bisley grip standard on some, but they are stainless with Ivory. I hate the look of stainless.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 19, 2023 12:19 PM (zZu0s)

174 I like it.
It was a real gun that the crew was using to blast empty whiskey bottles between takes and nobody could imagine having to treat it like a real gun...

But, I am one of those guys that thinks negligent homicide should get a harsher penalty than premeditated murder. The later it takes a thoughtful process to go through, the other is someone so fricken stupid they just kill people cause they 'didn't think' .... and never will.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at January 19, 2023 12:19 PM (PIobT)

175 The foolish armorer is likely getting jail time and her Hollywood career is over if she folds and takes the stand against Baldwin.
Posted by: exdem13 at January 19, 2023 12:18 PM (W+kMI)

Her career (as well as the assistant director's) is already over in Hollywood - her best bet is to see if she can get the same deal he did and also testify...

Posted by: Nova Local at January 19, 2023 12:19 PM (exHjb)

176 The Escape reboot could be worse. Snake could be a tranny
Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 19, 2023 12:17 PM (dHzaG)



Then it's just the Rocky Horror Picture Show.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 19, 2023 12:19 PM (Zz0t1)

177 Ace you forgot to tell us of the 3am bust into his house and taken away in shackles
Right? You just forgot that part?

Posted by: Skip at January 19, 2023 12:19 PM (Y63v2)

178 I'm going to disagree. In the end, it is the person handling the weapon who has the responsibility to check fit and function. You act as a team with the armorer to ensure safe handling and use. That way there is a two-way safety check. They both own this.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 19, 2023 12:14 PM (wgAtL)


I would, and you would, and everyone here would. But do actors in Hollywood do that on a regular basis? I honestly don't know, but if it's standard practice for the armorer to hand the actor the gun and say "It's okay to use," and for the actor to then use it without personally checking it, then Baldwin isn't any more in the wrong than the rest of them.

Posted by: Dr. T at January 19, 2023 12:19 PM (bhRsz)

179 If you want to know why using Fake guns don't work, here's an example, Actors can't fake the gun action and it looks terrible
https://tinyurl.com/5bfsk7yx

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 19, 2023 12:20 PM (dKiJG)

180 OT (from Insty): The State Dept., having run out of other things to do, has now banned the Times New Roman font. For once, it wasn't because it's racist.

The State Department is ditching Times New Roman out of a desire to be more “inclusive” to “employees who are visually impaired or have other difficulties reading,” according to the Washington Post.

Posted by: Archimedes at January 19, 2023 12:20 PM (eOEVl)

181 Extraordinary measures will take the real Debt Ceiling out into June. That's when they tell all the useless government schlubs to go home for a free vacation for which they will eventually be paid. But it's also when they start to defer payments on certain UST's. It's going to get interesting.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 19, 2023 12:20 PM (wgAtL)

182 My father always told me to kick the hell out of any man who was down so that they couldn't get back up again and harm me.
Posted by: kathysaysso at January 19, 2023 12:19 PM (m78jL)

Do unto others before they do it unto you.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at January 19, 2023 12:20 PM (UuD2k)

183 It was a real gun that the crew was using to blast empty whiskey bottles between takes and nobody could imagine having to treat it like a real gun...
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HOLY CRAP

Posted by: Egg shortages are easily recognized by the overabundance of eggs on grocers shelves at January 19, 2023 12:20 PM (9IIFw)

184 Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen sent a letter Thursday morning to House Speaker Kevin McCarthy, noting that a "debt issuance suspension period" will begin on Thursday, Jan. 19 and last through Monday, June 5. As part of that, the government will not funnel new investments into the Civil Service Retirement and Disability Fund

**************

OH NO!

Anyway...

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at January 19, 2023 12:20 PM (VTu1l)

185 hiya

Posted by: JT at January 19, 2023 12:20 PM (T4tVD)

186 > It's NEVER not YOUR job to make sure a weapon is safe.

Correct.

Posted by: bonhomme at January 19, 2023 12:20 PM (eyxn4)

187 So. She trades a BJ or three and gets out, unscathed?

Not real exciting.
Posted by: garrett at January 19, 2023 12:11 PM


You need to think bigger.

Posted by: Debbie Does Dallas at January 19, 2023 12:20 PM (a3Q+t)

188 You put Pam Greer in a movie and make her a tranny. You evil fucks.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 19, 2023 12:20 PM (zZu0s)

189 >>>It's NEVER not YOUR job to make sure a weapon is safe.

Yes but many times you are relieved of your legal responsibility to do so. In cases where you don't have weapons training and you activity with the weapon is under supervision. Pretty much this case. If he hadn't have been the producer and discharged the weapon at the camera man during a shoot and killed him. He wouldn't even have sustainable civil liability.

Posted by: mikethemoose at January 19, 2023 12:20 PM (T/vhV)

190 They are rebooting ESCAPE FROM NY and Snake is now a Woman.

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Well, I've known many women who were snakes.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2023 at January 19, 2023 12:21 PM (FVME7)

191 Alec Baldwin now gets to understand that in flyover country the law is the law, and has to be treated with respect. Someone died, someone has to take responsibility for the death. He needed to have a lawyer prepare a legal rection to the event, plan a defense position, and at least make a lot of phone calls to influential people have to be made very quickly. If he has a lawyer working for him already, they suck and fail. Baldwin may escape jail time, but an actual trial will harm his reputation, it's still not La-La Land, and he'll still be liable for civil suit. The foolish armorer is likely getting jail time and her Hollywood career is over if she folds and takes the stand against Baldwin.
Posted by: exdem13


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He probably had lots of lawyers giving him good advice.

But Alec is a pompous ass that knows better than you, and he knows always knows what is best. Also known as Hollywood / Washington DC / NYC Asshole Syndrome.

Posted by: rd at January 19, 2023 12:21 PM (cPD52)

192 163 Well, Butler isn't as big a star as Kurt Russel was and their is no way to capture the awesome inherent campiness and cheesiness of the first film in todays Hollywood.

It's essentially an unremakeable film.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 19, 2023 12:18 PM (sm3rd)

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Kurt Russell wasn't really a huge star, and Escape from NY was no real financial success. Carpenter was really frustrated because all of his Russell movies bombed (this, The Thing, and Big Trouble in Little China, and then, eventually, Escape from LA).

He was simply not a box office draw. If he was, he could have sold something like Big Trouble in Little China, but he didn't.

The mistake modern Hollywood keeps making is that these popular 80s properties are actually not that popular. They're popular with the film geek crowd, which has some crossover into the professional world (Scorsese recently praised Carpenter, actually), but that's a far cry from mainstream popularity.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at January 19, 2023 12:21 PM (LvTSG)

193 As someone earlier mentioned, there are no "federal charges of involuntary manslaughter" that can be brought by a state district attorney general. That out of the way, this very well may be a case of undercharging. That is to say, the state charges probably were with the understanding they would not be contested. Otherwise, the proper charges, voluntary manslaughter would have been brought. This man's proclivity for anger is well-known and there is little doubt this went down in a fit of rage.

The question isn't who Baldwin pissed off. It is who Baldwin made happy.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at January 19, 2023 12:21 PM (KSNKu)

194 Ruger Vaquero Bisley. BluedColor case hardened. Rosewood grips. Came in .357, .44 and .45 Colt.

FIFYM.

Posted by: Oddbob at January 19, 2023 12:21 PM (nfrXX)

195 The State Department is ditching Times New Roman out of a desire to be more “inclusive” to “employees who are visually impaired or have other difficulties reading,” according to the Washington Post.
Posted by: Archimedes at January 19, 2023 12:20 PM (eOEVl)

Comic Sans?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 19, 2023 12:21 PM (zZu0s)

196 >>They are rebooting ESCAPE FROM NY and Snake is now a Woman.

They are gonna change her name to Clam, though. Right?

Posted by: garrett at January 19, 2023 12:14 PM (TmVxm)

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They have to keep it "snake" for the big tranny reveal at the end a la The Crying Game.

Posted by: ShainS -- Ctrl+Galt+Delete to remove the The Great Reset malware virus at January 19, 2023 12:21 PM (BRmwW)

197 The rule of incorrigible assholes applies here: I don't care about the merits because Alec Baldwin is such an asshole that he deserves anything bad that happens to him.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at January 19, 2023 12:08 PM (KFhLj)

I feel the same way about the guy who killed my wife!
Posted by: OJ Simpson at January 19, 2023 12:12 PM (XIJ/X)

*fistbump*

Posted by: Phil Specter at January 19, 2023 12:21 PM (4I/2K)

198 158 The best gun movie is Equilibrium, with Christian Bale.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at January 19, 2023 12:16 PM (PiwSw)

Collateral.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at January 19, 2023 12:17 PM (PyOKD)

Heat

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at January 19, 2023 12:21 PM (XvPQV)

199 They are rebooting ESCAPE FROM NY and Snake is now a Woman. God I hate Hollywood

is this real?

Of course it's real. I hate Hollywood, it's so stupid.

Posted by: ace

It is just amazing that Hollywood does not understand heterosexual people at all. Men go to movies to identify with macho heroes and look at beautiful women. Women go to movies to dream about romance with hero macho men.
Now make the hero a woman and there is no longer any sexual tension between the characters. Then add a bunch of women kissing each other or worse, men kissing each other and just yuk.
What percentage of the population is gay? Why do they think they need to appeal to this population?

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 19, 2023 12:22 PM (Y+l9t)

200 I would, and you would, and everyone here would. But do actors in Hollywood do that on a regular basis? I honestly don't know, but if it's standard practice for the armorer to hand the actor the gun and say "It's okay to use," and for the actor to then use it without personally checking it, then Baldwin isn't any more in the wrong than the rest of them.
Posted by: Dr. T at January 19, 2023 12:19 PM (bhRsz)

He gets hit for shooting and for producing - he knew about the pre-existing (spectacular) shoddy gun safety on set b/c he was part of the "in charge of whole production" team and then he displayed personal shoddy gun safety by shooting - prosecution wins on both arguments, so he's toast...

Posted by: Nova Local at January 19, 2023 12:22 PM (exHjb)

201 198 158 The best gun movie is Equilibrium, with Christian Bale.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at January 19, 2023 12:16 PM (PiwSw)

Collateral.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at January 19, 2023 12:17 PM (PyOKD)

Heat
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at January 19, 2023 12:21 PM (XvPQV)

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Vanya on 42nd Street.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at January 19, 2023 12:22 PM (LvTSG)

202 Well, at least they charged him with a crime-
doesn't mean he's going to jail

Posted by: DB at January 19, 2023 12:22 PM (geLO8)

203 The mistake modern Hollywood keeps making is that these popular 80s properties are actually not that popular. They're popular with the film geek crowd, which has some crossover into the professional world (Scorsese recently praised Carpenter, actually), but that's a far cry from mainstream popularity.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at January 19, 2023 12:21 PM (LvTSG)

To hell with you, TJM. Kurt Russell is awesome.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 19, 2023 12:22 PM (zZu0s)

204 Extraordinary measures? Us that lying, cheating, and stealing?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2023 at January 19, 2023 12:22 PM (FVME7)

205 34 Just looked at Colt's website...since the SAA is 150 yrs old. Seems they're only making it in 45 Colt.
Posted by: BignJames
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It was a clone based on Colt's design. Uberti, I seem to remember was the maker. A lot cheaper than a genuine Colt but good quality from an Italian gunmaker that has been making these things since the 70's.

Posted by: whig at January 19, 2023 12:22 PM (bDjBG)

206 >>>It's essentially an unremakeable film.
Posted by: Thomas Bender

I kind of agree with this except: It's a fantastic *premise* with a great hero. The film is hampered by having a hundred dollar budget to tell a hundred million dollar story.

It's the kind of movie they *should* remake.

Posted by: ace at January 19, 2023 12:23 PM (C1Zwz)

207 203 To hell with you, TJM. Kurt Russell is awesome.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 19, 2023 12:22 PM (zZu0s)

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Did I say he was bad? I missed that part in the thing that I wrote myself.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at January 19, 2023 12:23 PM (LvTSG)

208 I don't think there will be a trial. If there is, Nick Rekieta will wind up with a new house.
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Given that its been over a year, I assume they have been waiting for Alec Baldwin to agree to a plea and now the prosecutor, tired of the bullshit, is upping the ante. She says she anticipates an expensive trial, and wants emergency funds, so she's making appropriate noises.

I am sure at some point his agent/manager/wife/lawyer/investors will talk him into settling this. Who knows, maybe they will still let him off with probation. But at some point, if he is stubborn, they will go for jail time. I'm having trouble seeing Alec Baldwin surviving state jail time.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 19, 2023 12:23 PM (yHBjT)

209 Vanya on 42nd Street.

**********

Sleepless in Seattle

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at January 19, 2023 12:23 PM (VTu1l)

210 206 I kind of agree with this except: It's a fantastic *premise* with a great hero. The film is hampered by having a hundred dollar budget to tell a hundred million dollar story.

It's the kind of movie they *should* remake.
Posted by: ace at January 19, 2023 12:23 PM (C1Zwz)

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They did. John Carpenter did it. It's called Escape from LA.

And it's great.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at January 19, 2023 12:23 PM (LvTSG)

211 They're mentioned here often, but the Uberti 45 clones are great values for the money if you just want a shooter. I've had one for a long time that infuriates a buddy who has an authentic $1400+ Colt. I try to remind him that mine is maybe worth $200, but it doesn't help. It shoots rings around his Colt.

Posted by: Egg shortages are easily recognized by the overabundance of eggs on grocers shelves at January 19, 2023 12:23 PM (9IIFw)

212 Dear Jesus Please help me, They are rebooting ESCAPE FROM NY and Snake is now a Woman. God I hate Hollywood
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 19, 2023 11:58 AM (dKiJG)



Well, at least they changed her name to -

"Clam Plissken"



Posted by: naturalfake at January 19, 2023 12:23 PM (KLPy8)

213 That certainly took long enough...

Posted by: gourmand du jour at January 19, 2023 12:23 PM (jTmQV)

214 @203

>>To hell with you, TJM. Kurt Russell is awesome.

He should have won an academy award for his mustache alone in Tombstone.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 19, 2023 12:24 PM (sm3rd)

215 In the 20s and early 30s, they hired real gunmen to shoot real bullets inches away from movie stars' heads to create bullet holes in shot.

I read once about a 30s gangster movie whose title I have long forgot. The bad guys were sheltering behind a corner of a stone bank building. The producers hired an ex-machine gunner from the army. They had the bad guys peer around the corner, and then the MGer let loose, chipping the stone. Apparently he came much closer than intended to drilling the actors.

Posted by: Archimedes at January 19, 2023 12:24 PM (eOEVl)

216 I think where this charge came from was not only his loosely goosey handing of the weapon and discharging when there was no good reason to do so, was probably mainly, what he was allowing to happen with that weapon when it wasn't being used for theatrical purposes.

If they can draw a line between live ammo in that gun, and his negligent management of the shoot, the charge is sustainable.

Posted by: mikethemoose at January 19, 2023 12:24 PM (T/vhV)

217 Snizz Plisken
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 19, 2023 12:14 PM (zZu0s)

Threadwinner!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at January 19, 2023 12:24 PM (XvPQV)

218 Did I say he was bad? I missed that part in the thing that I wrote myself.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at January 19, 2023 12:23 PM (LvTSG)

You said he was not a box office draw. I saw Soldier in theater, dammit!

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 19, 2023 12:24 PM (zZu0s)

219 >Comic Sans?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop


Showcard Gothic

Posted by: DB at January 19, 2023 12:24 PM (geLO8)

220 The State Department is ditching Times New Roman out of a desire to be more “inclusive” to “employees who are visually impaired or have other difficulties reading,” according to the Washington Post.
Posted by: Archimedes at January 19, 2023 12:20 PM (eOEVl)

Comic Sans?
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 19, 2023 12:21 PM (zZu0s)

-------

Wingdings -- it's the only way to make sure no potentially-offensive words are ever used again.

Posted by: ShainS -- Ctrl+Galt+Delete to remove the The Great Reset malware virus at January 19, 2023 12:24 PM (BRmwW)

221 How many war and Westerns made in the 50 and 60s with real firearms and no one was kklled?
Posted by: Skip at January 19, 2023 12:16 PM (Y63v2)
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Probably a lot of people in them had served in the armed forces.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at January 19, 2023 12:24 PM (XlE1Z)

222 To be honest, Baldwin's role as actor on the set is probably the least of his responsibility for the shooting. I hold him more responsible due to his failure as producer; he should have cracked down hard on the crew for the unsafe behaviors.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at January 19, 2023 12:24 PM (wmDcS)

223 How many war and Westerns made in the 50 and 60s with real firearms and no one was kklled?
Posted by: Skip


All. Of. Them.

Posted by: rickb223 Gone Galt at January 19, 2023 12:24 PM (jwRpK)

224 robably waited to lock up the one plea deal, and then see if they'd get more - they didn't, so now it's January, after all the holidays, and time to proceed.
==
Right. Also a new year and they had to budget accordingly for the trial, in a new budget year. Its going to require some resources.

Posted by: its the little things at January 19, 2023 12:24 PM (kQbQe)

225 The best gun movie is Equilibrium, with Christian Bale.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at January 19, 2023 12:16 PM (PiwSw)

Collateral.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at January 19, 2023 12:17 PM (PyOKD)

Heat
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at January 19, 2023 12:21 PM (XvPQV)



Tango and Cash


*I'm keeping to the Kurt Russell theme

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 19, 2023 12:25 PM (Zz0t1)

226 218 Did I say he was bad? I missed that part in the thing that I wrote myself.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at January 19, 2023 12:23 PM (LvTSG)

You said he was not a box office draw. I saw Soldier in theater, dammit!
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 19, 2023 12:24 PM (zZu0s)

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That's different from him being "awesome". Box office success does not equate to quality.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at January 19, 2023 12:25 PM (LvTSG)

227 IIRC, at the end of Edwin Porter’s 1903 classic The Great Train Robbery, one of the bandits fires his gun directly into the camera. No one had ever staged such a scene before, and there accounts of theater-goers freaking out, fainting, etc., because they the bullet would actually come out of the screen at them.

That’s what I’ve read, anyway.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 19, 2023 12:25 PM (45LeZ)

228 IIRC, at the end of Edwin Porter’s 1903 classic The Great Train Robbery, one of the bandits fires his gun directly into the camera. No one had ever staged such a scene before, and there accounts of theater-goers freaking out, fainting, etc., because they the bullet would actually come out of the screen at them.

That’s what I’ve read, anyway.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 19, 2023 12:25 PM (45LeZ)

229 He should have won an academy award for his mustache alone in Tombstone.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 19, 2023 12:24 PM (sm3rd)

Truth. Damn fine mustaches in that movie. I wish I had the patience to grow a full Elliot.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 19, 2023 12:25 PM (zZu0s)

230 They've been trying to reboot EfNY for at least 15 years. I don't see how this effort is going to be any more successful than the one with Gerard Butler when Gerard Butler was actually a thing.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at January 19, 2023 12:11 PM (LvTSG)

That was Guy Pierce and the Movie was Lockout which was I thought was good popcorn movie

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 19, 2023 12:25 PM (dKiJG)

231 150 >>>Snizz Plisken

lol
Posted by: ace at January 19, 2023 12:17 PM (C1Zwz)

The president will be charged to a Hilary proxy and Snizz and the Prezzy will kick ass and take names freeing all the unjustly incarcerated.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at January 19, 2023 12:25 PM (hsm/T)

232 They did. John Carpenter did it. It's called Escape from LA.

And it's great.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at January 19, 2023 12:23 PM (LvTSG)

Objection!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at January 19, 2023 12:25 PM (XvPQV)

233 What percentage of the population is gay? Why do they think they need to appeal to this population?
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice)

Hollywood has a much higher incidence of gay individuals than exists in the general population. Ditto for DC or a lot of other major cities due to scarcity of single sex mates in the sticks.

Posted by: whig at January 19, 2023 12:25 PM (bDjBG)

234 "I would, and you would, and everyone here would. But do actors in Hollywood do that on a regular basis? I honestly don't know, but if it's standard practice for the armorer to hand the actor the gun and say "It's okay to use," and for the actor to then use it without personally checking it, then Baldwin isn't any more in the wrong than the rest of them.
Posted by: Dr. T at January 19, 2023 12:19 PM (bhRsz)"

It's a matter of discipline and basic gun safety. A person handling firearms, no matter what the use, needs to adhere to basic gun safety. If they didn't teach or instill that in Baldwin, I would also be suing the production company and anyone else in that chain. It ironic these people who are constantly criticizing and attacking the NRA didn't adhere to fundamentals taught in their basic level courses.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 19, 2023 12:25 PM (wgAtL)

235 He'll just have to promise to do even more outrageous Drumpf then all will be forgiven.

Posted by: micky at January 19, 2023 12:25 PM (3byMq)

236 Sorry for the double posting.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 19, 2023 12:25 PM (45LeZ)

237 The foolish armorer is likely getting jail time and her Hollywood career is over if she folds and takes the stand against Baldwin.
Posted by: exdem13 at January 19, 2023 12:18 PM (W+kMI)

Her career (as well as the assistant director's) is already over in Hollywood - her best bet is to see if she can get the same deal he did and also testify...
Posted by: Nova Local


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Despite their efforts to make it seem so?

Hollywood is not the most important place in the world.

Posted by: rd at January 19, 2023 12:25 PM (cPD52)

238 To be honest, Baldwin's role as actor on the set is probably the least of his responsibility for the shooting. I hold him more responsible due to his failure as producer;

he should have cracked down hard on the crew for the unsafe behaviors.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile

He couldn't. He'd already has half his crew walk off set.

Posted by: rickb223 Gone Galt at January 19, 2023 12:25 PM (jwRpK)

239 232
Objection!
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at January 19, 2023 12:25 PM (XvPQV)

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Overruled! Throw that man out of my courtroom!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at January 19, 2023 12:25 PM (LvTSG)

240 One of my pet peeves, I saw Fritz Weaver, who I like, do it on Gunsmoke the other day, is to push the handgun forward as they shoot as if to give the bullet a little extra momentum.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2023 at January 19, 2023 12:26 PM (FVME7)

241 '"The Daily Wire" reply that confirmed just how bad [the DW term sheet to Crowder] is.'

Quite the opposite, I'd say. If Rekeita is claiming it's a bad offer, why?

I'm not sure what Crowder is angling for here.

He's not negotiating with them for better terms, because DW already told him deal's off, when Crowder tried to back off his hard "no, fuck you."

He may be trying to set himself up as the official "enemy of corrupt right-wing media."

He seems to be thinking "I'm a to-the-death culture warrior, and everybody I contract with must be willing to die with me. Now why isn't anybody offering me the kind of contracts I want?"

Because people sign contracts to make money, not to win culture wars.

Posted by: gp, Standing Up For What's Too Hard To Reach Whilst Sitting at January 19, 2023 12:26 PM (24fqN)

242 Guilty!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 19, 2023 12:26 PM (YypaB)

243 They are rebooting ESCAPE FROM NY and Snake is now a Woman.

They are gonna change her name to Clam, though. Right?

Posted by: garrett at January 19, 2023 12:14 PM (TmVxm)


Welp. Beaten to the punch by garret.

That's a special kind of shame.

*kicks rock*

Posted by: naturalfake at January 19, 2023 12:26 PM (KLPy8)

244 I liked Soldier a lot- aside from the effects.

And some of the acting was a bit lacking.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 19, 2023 12:26 PM (zZu0s)

245
Wingdings -- it's the only way to make sure no potentially-offensive words are ever used again.
Posted by: ShainS -- Ctrl+Galt+Delete to remove the The Great Reset malware virus at January 19, 2023 12:24 PM (BRmwW)



Zapf Dingbats. It's got ALL the symbols.

https://fontsgeek.com/fonts/zapf-dingbats-regular

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 19, 2023 12:26 PM (Zz0t1)

246 That was Guy Pierce and the Movie was Lockout which was I thought was good popcorn movie
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 19, 2023 12:25 PM (dKiJG)

Guy did a damn good job in that movie. It's clearly an EFNY rip off but it's a Quality rip off.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at January 19, 2023 12:26 PM (XvPQV)

247 That’s what I’ve read, anyway.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus
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PR was alive and well back then too.

Posted by: whig at January 19, 2023 12:26 PM (bDjBG)

248 @229

>>Truth. Damn fine mustaches in that movie. I wish I had the patience to grow a full Elliot.

Tombstone is the best mustache movie bar none, nothing comes close.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 19, 2023 12:26 PM (sm3rd)

249 To be honest, Baldwin's role as actor on the set is probably the least of his responsibility for the shooting. I hold him more responsible due to his failure as producer; he should have cracked down hard on the crew for the unsafe behaviors.
==
Plus he hired an unqualified idiot to be the person in charge of gun safety. That bounces back on him. He's pathologically incapable of accepting any responsibility for bad outcomes, so this is where you wind up.

Posted by: its the little things at January 19, 2023 12:26 PM (QuFFz)

250
The State Department is ditching Times New Roman out of a desire to be more “inclusive” to “employees who are visually impaired or have other difficulties reading,” according to the Washington Post.
Posted by: Archimedes at January 19, 2023 12:20 PM (eOEVl)

Comic Sans?
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop


Cursive!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 19, 2023 12:26 PM (63Dwl)

251 Maybe Alex should talk more about it. It can do nothing but help his case.

Posted by: SOMEASSHOLESTOLEMYPEN at January 19, 2023 12:26 PM (ytSiK)

252 Never stop shooting.

Posted by: Alec Baldwin at January 19, 2023 12:26 PM (Lavx8)

253 That's different from him being "awesome". Box office success does not equate to quality.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at January 19, 2023 12:25 PM (LvTSG)

Out of curiosity, how did John Wick do in the theater?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 19, 2023 12:27 PM (zZu0s)

254 Speaking of weapon safety, which is very important, I still HATE the sooper dooper "I'm safer than you" gun law people.

They're the ones that will spazz out on you if you pick up a rifle in a case and flag them with the muzzle of the CASED RIFLE! They're the ones that spazz out about shoulder holsters because the holstered weapon is flagging everyone behind them.

If your weapon is in a case or a holster and the trigger is covered and the weapon is not a piece of shit that goes bang by shaking it a bit (Taurus, looking at you) calm the fuck down, people.

Posted by: bonhomme at January 19, 2023 12:27 PM (eyxn4)

255 >>They did. John Carpenter did it. It's called Escape from LA.

>And it's great.



It's no Three Amigos.

Posted by: garrett at January 19, 2023 12:27 PM (TmVxm)

256 240 One of my pet peeves, I saw Fritz Weaver, who I like, do it on Gunsmoke the other day, is to push the handgun forward as they shoot as if to give the bullet a little extra momentum.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2023 at January 19, 2023 12:26 PM (FVME7)

That's very important when you hold a pistol sideways, though. You have to push those bullets out.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at January 19, 2023 12:27 PM (UuD2k)

257 Two "federal" counts of manslaughter? That makes no sense. I'm pretty sure there is no such federal crime. And if there was, in would not be within a New Mexico prosecutor's authority to charge.
Posted by: mattman26 at January 19, 2023 12:16 PM


Were they shooting "Rust" on tribal lands/Indian reservation?

Posted by: Chuck C at January 19, 2023 12:27 PM (xttsV)

258 238 To be honest, Baldwin's role as actor on the set is probably the least of his responsibility for the shooting. I hold him more responsible due to his failure as producer;

he should have cracked down hard on the crew for the unsafe behaviors.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile

He couldn't. He'd already has half his crew walk off set.
Posted by: rickb223 Gone Galt at January 19, 2023 12:25 PM (jwRpK)

No, he could. He just would have had to replace the crew with well-paid and professional crew. He tried to cheap out and put money over safety all through the movie making process - sucks to be him...

Posted by: Nova Local at January 19, 2023 12:27 PM (exHjb)

259 And this is Santa Fe the city different. So he will be just fine.

Posted by: SOMEASSHOLESTOLEMYPEN at January 19, 2023 12:27 PM (ytSiK)

260 Fake weapons gives you Dune when they recoil from laser weapons

Posted by: Skip at January 19, 2023 12:27 PM (Y63v2)

261 The mistake modern Hollywood keeps making is that these popular 80s properties are actually not that popular. They're popular with the film geek crowd, which has some crossover into the professional world (Scorsese recently praised Carpenter, actually), but that's a far cry from mainstream popularity.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at January 19, 2023 12:21 PM (LvTSG)

(this, The Thing, and Big Trouble in Little China . . . .) are some of the best movies. I am not in the film geek crowd, but I can enjoy these over and over again for what they were.

Hollywood cannot make these sorts of films today, because they take themselves too seriously and they are larded up with beancounters, lawyers, woke assholes, and people who regard themselves way more than they should.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at January 19, 2023 12:27 PM (PyOKD)

262 253 Out of curiosity, how did John Wick do in the theater?
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 19, 2023 12:27 PM (zZu0s)

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Well enough to get 3 sequels. And a television spinoff.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at January 19, 2023 12:28 PM (LvTSG)

263 Objection!
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at January 19, 2023 12:25 PM (XvPQV)

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Overruled! Throw that man out of my courtroom!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at January 19, 2023 12:25 PM (LvTSG)

"I'm as mad as Hell and I'm not going to take it anymore!"

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at January 19, 2023 12:28 PM (XvPQV)

264 My prediction is Alec does no time and pays a fine to the state. He of course will be sued and the conviction will help the plaintiffs. For shooting a person he will get no where near he penalty of walking in the "people's" house because he is a high priest of democrat-communism.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at January 19, 2023 12:28 PM (u4CEu)

265
It's a matter of discipline and basic gun safety. A person handling firearms, no matter what the use, needs to adhere to basic gun safety. If they didn't teach or instill that in Baldwin, I would also be suing the production company and anyone else in that chain. It ironic these people who are constantly criticizing and attacking the NRA didn't adhere to fundamentals taught in their basic level courses.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 19, 2023 12:25 PM (wgAtL)



This would be the case were there any accountability in the leftist world.

Baldwin is an actor and a leftist. That exempts him from ANY accountability for his actions ever, anywhere in his life.

He was just being normal.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 19, 2023 12:28 PM (Zz0t1)

266 Why you always check firearms to make sure they're unloaded. I had a moonlighting job at a gun shop/indoor shooting range. Rental guns were kept in the showcase for retail if somebody expressed an interest. Pulled a Beretta Model 70 .22 out, dropped the magazine. Loaded. Cycled the slide. One in the tube. A very loud, very profane safety meeting was held.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at January 19, 2023 12:28 PM (lz5hY)

267 9 We need to make a meme with an ewok (full headdress) sitting at a news anchor's desk with 'Breaking News' on the screen behind him. The ewok is holding news copy.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop
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Ticker tape sound in the background.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at January 19, 2023 12:28 PM (5TmO/)

268 We should change the name of this country to New Mexico

Posted by: ... at January 19, 2023 12:28 PM (a2WYj)

269 he was also well within his rights to expect that if the armorer gave him a gun, it was safe to use.
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Except, that's *not* what other actors have said.

They have said that it is common practice that you *always* check a gun handed to you.

Posted by: Axeman at January 19, 2023 12:28 PM (krQz2)

270
Well enough to get 3 sequels. And a television spinoff.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at January 19, 2023 12:28 PM (LvTSG)

A TV show?! WTF? There is only the first movie. It is perfect. Leave it the fuck alone.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 19, 2023 12:29 PM (zZu0s)

271 he best gun movie is Equilibrium, with Christian Bale.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at January 19, 2023 12:16 PM (PiwSw)

Collateral.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at January 19, 2023 12:17 PM (PyOKD)

Heat
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at January 19, 2023 12:21 PM (XvPQV
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"Man On Fire"

Denzel for the win.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 19, 2023 12:29 PM (yHBjT)

272 "I would, and you would, and everyone here would. But do actors in Hollywood do that on a regular basis?"

There's footage of Baldwin discussing all the weapons he's handled in movies and how the safety regime works. He IS responsible for his negligence! If I was an actor, you couldn't get me to point a real loaded gun at ANYBODY, unless they were trying to kill me.

Posted by: gp, Standing Up For What's Too Hard To Reach Whilst Sitting at January 19, 2023 12:29 PM (24fqN)

273 Are there any firearm-shooting scenes in Prometheus?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 19, 2023 12:29 PM (45LeZ)

274 Seen in a Mad magazine from the 1970s or early 1980s:

Never kick a man when he's down...because he might get up again.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 19, 2023 12:29 PM (QRdjz)

275
Cursive!
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 19, 2023 12:26 PM (63Dwl)



Shit......

Posted by: Rachel Jeantel at January 19, 2023 12:29 PM (Zz0t1)

276 "I'm always saying, "I predicted this."
I definitely did not predict this."

Same, I was wrong, I thought for sure the spiked haired DA would let him slide.

Posted by: lowandslow at January 19, 2023 12:29 PM (sWdgv)

277 >>Rental guns were kept in the showcase for retail if somebody expressed an interest. Pulled a Beretta Model 70 .22 out, dropped the magazine. Loaded. Cycled the slide. One in the tube. A very loud, very profane safety meeting was held.


Yikes!

Posted by: garrett at January 19, 2023 12:29 PM (TmVxm)

278 We should change the name of this country to New Mexico

Posted by: ... at January 19, 2023 12:28 PM (a2WYj)
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To be inclusive.

Posted by: Axeman at January 19, 2023 12:29 PM (krQz2)

279 IIRC, at the end of Edwin Porter’s 1903 classic The Great Train Robbery, one of the bandits fires his gun directly into the camera. No one had ever staged such a scene before, and there accounts of theater-goers freaking out, fainting, etc., because they the bullet would actually come out of the screen at them.

That’s what I’ve read, anyway.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 19, 2023 12:25 PM (45LeZ)


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And in 1930-something, Orson Welles' Radio Show Martians were taking over the East Coast.

Stupid People are going to Stupid.

Posted by: rd at January 19, 2023 12:29 PM (cPD52)

280 The State Department is ditching Times New Roman out of a desire to be more “inclusive” to “employees who are visually impaired or have other difficulties reading,” according to the Washington Post.
Posted by: Archimedes at January 19, 2023 12:20 PM (eOEVl)

Comic Sans?
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop

Cursive!
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 19, 2023 12:26 PM (63Dwl)

That's ingenious! The only code more unbreakable would require a pair of Enigma machines.

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 19, 2023 12:29 PM (4I/2K)

281 Three Amigos is the best sombrero movie ever. Nothing comes close.

Posted by: DB at January 19, 2023 12:29 PM (geLO8)

282 I like Tim Olyphant and think he's funny but he's a retard about guns. Or he has to pretend to be a retard about guns.

Posted by: ... at January 19, 2023 12:30 PM (a2WYj)

283 255 >>They did. John Carpenter did it. It's called Escape from LA.

>And it's great.

It's no Three Amigos.
Posted by: garrett at January 19, 2023 12:27 PM (TmVxm)

Which is no El Diablo.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 19, 2023 12:30 PM (zZu0s)

284 260 Fake weapons gives you Dune when they recoil from laser weapons
Posted by: Skip at January 19, 2023 12:27 PM (Y63v2)

Lasers would have a small recoil. Probably wouldn't even feel it. But that wouldn't look cool.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at January 19, 2023 12:30 PM (Y5qcH)

285 261 (this, The Thing, and Big Trouble in Little China . . . .) are some of the best movies. I am not in the film geek crowd, but I can enjoy these over and over again for what they were.

Hollywood cannot make these sorts of films today, because they take themselves too seriously and they are larded up with beancounters, lawyers, woke assholes, and people who regard themselves way more than they should.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at January 19, 2023 12:27 PM (PyOKD)

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I see more in line with the effort to do a massively expensive sequel to Blade Runner. Blade Runner was a bomb in the early 80s and clearly grew in appreciation of the decades. Everyone in Hollywood knows it, and many decision makers are fans.

Is the general public a fan of Blade Runner, though?

Not so much, it seems. It's like movies about Hollywood. Hollywood loves to make them, but they're generally not that much in the money making department. Hell, one of the best of them, The Player, made less than $30 million at the box office in the early 90s.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at January 19, 2023 12:30 PM (LvTSG)

286 @221 I would think there were people killed on the sets of old westerns and war movies. The studios just saw to it that the deaths were chalked up as "accidents" and went away quietly. The Vic Morrow incident was the first I know of with criminal charges and that's because kids were killed

Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 19, 2023 12:30 PM (dHzaG)

287 He should plead. The DA did not over charge. Most often that means they want to put someone in jail.

Alec wont do well in jail.

Posted by: Nearsighted Cyclopes at January 19, 2023 12:30 PM (PbwT0)

288 269 he was also well within his rights to expect that if the armorer gave him a gun, it was safe to use.
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Except, that's *not* what other actors have said.

They have said that it is common practice that you *always* check a gun handed to you.
Posted by: Axeman at January 19, 2023 12:28 PM (krQz2)

269 he was also well within his rights to expect that if the armorer gave him a gun, it was safe to use.
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Except, that's *not* what other actors have said.

They have said that it is common practice that you *always* check a gun handed to you.
Posted by: Axeman at January 19, 2023 12:28 PM (krQz2)

And the armorer did NOT give him the gun - the assistant director (who is the one who pled) did...so even more reason for him to check...
Posted by: Nova Local at January 19, 2023 12:30 PM (exHjb)

Posted by: Nova Local at January 19, 2023 12:31 PM (exHjb)

289 He seems to be thinking "I'm a to-the-death culture warrior, and everybody I contract with must be willing to die with me. Now why isn't anybody offering me the kind of contracts I want?"

Because people sign contracts to make money, not to win culture wars.
Posted by: gp
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Conservative Media is different--in fact, its funding is not from subscriptions by customers any longer but whoring their readers to interest groups. Think about it, you don't pay for the Daily Wire so where does Shapiro's money come from?

In essence, like CPAC, NR, the Weakly Standard when it was alive, the American Spectator, PJ Media, the Beacon, the Washington Times, the Examiner, ad nauseam, oligarchs keep them in money in order to check any rise in populism threatening the status quo. The paywall stuff is penny ante for true believers not to keep the lights on.

Posted by: whig at January 19, 2023 12:31 PM (bDjBG)

290 286 @221 I would think there were people killed on the sets of old westerns and war movies. The studios just saw to it that the deaths were chalked up as "accidents" and went away quietly. The Vic Morrow incident was the first I know of with criminal charges and that's because kids were killed
Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 19, 2023 12:30 PM (dHzaG)

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You want crazy stunts and action sequences?

Watch silent movies.

Those people were fucking insane.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at January 19, 2023 12:31 PM (LvTSG)

291 No, he could. He just would have had to replace the crew with well-paid and professional crew. He tried to cheap out and put money over safety all through the movie making process - sucks to be him...
Posted by: Nova Local


Half of his well paid, professional crew walked off set due to safety concerns. He was already using scabs.

Don't know how many more professionals he could find in New Mexico.

Posted by: rickb223 Gone Galt at January 19, 2023 12:31 PM (jwRpK)

292 to push the handgun forward as they shoot as if to give the bullet a little extra momentum.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2023 at January 19, 2023 12:26 PM (FVME7)


Why do you hate science?

Posted by: blaster at January 19, 2023 12:31 PM (pwExq)

293 223 How many war and Westerns made in the 50 and 60s with real firearms and no one was kklled?
Posted by: Skip


All. Of. Them.
Posted by: rickb223 Gone Galt at January 19, 2023 12:24 PM (jwRpK)

Most men in those movie were in the Service so they handled guns, Now you don't, When you see the Draft ending you get the accidents. I remember the TV show about models that are spy's and the guy was playing Russian Roulette between takes and shot himself

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 19, 2023 12:31 PM (dKiJG)

294 >>>Why do they think they need to appeal to this population?

It's social conditioning not creating art for wide sale and consumption.

It surprises me after seeing the new top gun that it actually got made. You have Mav the hero of the story getting favors from his Admiral friend, showing the young kids that the old white guy is better than they are, and that they need to sit down shut up and learn. Ultimately shows them what he has planned for them is doable by doing it himself. Finally acts as an immediate hero for mission completion. All that while swooning the girl, and patching up a relationship with his dead friends son.

It's like an advertisement for patriarchy, individual achievement, traditional masculinity, heterosexuality, and healthy competition.

Posted by: mikethemoose at January 19, 2023 12:31 PM (T/vhV)

295 How many Hollywood employees does it take to stop a .45 long colt? I would say at least three.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at January 19, 2023 12:32 PM (D25PY)

296 It's like movies about Hollywood. Hollywood loves to make them, but they're generally not that much in the money making department. Hell, one of the best of them, The Player, made less than $30 million at the box office in the early 90s.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at January 19, 2023 12:30 PM (LvTSG)

Once Upon A Time in Hollywood made 377M worldwide, but....that's Quentin Tarrantino. And dead hippy murderers.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at January 19, 2023 12:32 PM (XvPQV)

297
If you're looking for a fun action movie that just wants to entertain you-

"Plane', an action movie with Gerard Butler is your boy.

He plays a pilot who's plane(!) crashes due to weather on one of those little Philippine isles run by terrorists.
Hijinks ensue.

It doesn't reinvent the wheel. Just good 80s-90s style action movie.

Check it out.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 19, 2023 12:32 PM (KLPy8)

298 Baldwin is an actor and a leftist. That exempts him from ANY accountability for his actions ever, anywhere in his life.
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I'm assuming time served.

Posted by: Egg shortages are easily recognized by the overabundance of eggs on grocers shelves at January 19, 2023 12:32 PM (9IIFw)

299 >>So what I'm wondering is, how badly did Alec Baldwin misbehave and anger the prosecutors to spur them into charging him?

Well I don't know but in the interrogation video taken right after the incident wasn't he chatting to his wife about going to a vacation house or something? He showed absolutely no remorse and didn't even look upset at what happened. Gross.

Posted by: DJ at January 19, 2023 12:32 PM (O3/K+)

300 he should have cracked down hard on the crew for the unsafe behaviors.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile

He couldn't. He'd already has half his crew walk off set.
Posted by: rickb223 Gone Galt at January 19, 2023 12:25 PM (jwRpK)

No, he could. He just would have had to replace the crew with well-paid and professional crew. He tried to cheap out and put money over safety all through the movie making process - sucks to be him...
Posted by: Nova Local at January 19, 2023 12:27 PM (exHjb)

And me!

Posted by: zombie cinematographer Halyna Hutchins at January 19, 2023 12:32 PM (4I/2K)

301 Apparently we've depleted our stateside military stockpiles to the point we're now tapping our S Korea military stockpiles to supply Ukraine.

https://bit.ly/3WorAaj

Posted by: bonhomme at January 19, 2023 12:32 PM (eyxn4)

302 "If you take it to the box and waste a judge's time - very, very, very few."

"... and make a judge do his job..." you mean.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at January 19, 2023 12:32 PM (QkXs2)

303 To the actor it's not a gun it's a prop. The prop man told him that *it is a cold gun*, indicating that he (the person responsible) had checked the gun and assured that it was a prop as he handed it to him.

Yes, Balwin is a dumbass.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at January 19, 2023 12:33 PM (5TmO/)

304 to push the handgun forward as they shoot as if to give the bullet a little extra momentum.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2023 at January 19, 2023 12:26 PM (FVME7)



What was that terrible movie where they could 'bend' bullets?

Posted by: Rachel Jeantel at January 19, 2023 12:33 PM (Zz0t1)

305 A friend of mine got me to watch a movie by Stephan Rybojad called Forces Speciales. It's another one of those goofy plots where journalists get into trouble in the war zone and SOF comes to rescue them. It was a mix of French and English with some subtitles, which can be annoying. But that also intrigued me for some odd reason. Maybe it was Diane Kruger...

Posted by: Marcus T at January 19, 2023 12:33 PM (wgAtL)

306 Ace, Alec Baldwin is like Bruce Springstein, they are the voice of the working class. Blue collared prophets, each.

Posted by: Puddinhead at January 19, 2023 12:33 PM (KY22T)

307 296 Once Upon A Time in Hollywood made 377M worldwide, but....that's Quentin Tarrantino. And dead hippy murderers.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at January 19, 2023 12:32 PM (XvPQV)

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Yeah, Tarantino is one two living directors who can seem to open a film just on his name (the other being Nolan).

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at January 19, 2023 12:33 PM (LvTSG)

308 F((U*)$&#@(&%(**(&^@*).....

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 19, 2023 12:33 PM (Zz0t1)

309 One of my pet peeves, I saw Fritz Weaver, who I like, do it on Gunsmoke the other day, is to push the handgun forward as they shoot as if to give the bullet a little extra momentum.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2023 at January 19, 2023 12:26 PM (FVME7)

That's very important when you hold a pistol sideways, though. You have to push those bullets out.
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In truth, if you wind up like a major league pitcher, step and swing your arm, pulling the trigger exactly when the barrel lines up on target, you maximize your results.

Posted by: by logical extension of illogic at January 19, 2023 12:33 PM (Rk8GO)

310 DC_Draino
@DC_Draino

Alec Baldwin roams free despite being charged with involuntary manslaughter while there are J6 prisoners locked up for months on end for the crime of protesting their corrupt government

Posted by: redridinghood at January 19, 2023 12:33 PM (NpAcC)

311 291 No, he could. He just would have had to replace the crew with well-paid and professional crew. He tried to cheap out and put money over safety all through the movie making process - sucks to be him...
Posted by: Nova Local


Half of his well paid, professional crew walked off set due to safety concerns. He was already using scabs.

Don't know how many more professionals he could find in New Mexico.
Posted by: rickb223 Gone Galt at January 19, 2023 12:31 PM (jwRpK)

B/c he wouldn't fire the unsafe folks - of course the few pros left b/c they knew what was coming...and Alec better fear their testimony...

Alec should have shut down production, gotten rid of the people who stayed, begged the people who left to come back, and brought in other pros...or just shut down the whole movie as a lost cause...

Doing what he eventually did led directly here - the worst, and fully foreseeable, outcome...

Posted by: Nova Local at January 19, 2023 12:33 PM (exHjb)

312 I remember the TV show about models that are spy's and the guy was playing Russian Roulette between takes and shot himself
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 19, 2023 12:31 PM (dKiJG)

That was 'Cover Up' and poor John Eric Hexum blowing wadding from a blank into his brain.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at January 19, 2023 12:33 PM (XvPQV)

313 304 What was that terrible movie where they could 'bend' bullets?
Posted by: Rachel Jeantel at January 19, 2023 12:33 PM (Zz0t1)

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Wanted.

It's boom boom for 2 hours. There are worst boom booms.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at January 19, 2023 12:33 PM (LvTSG)

314 If you change the situation to a gun store--you are a novice shopping for a firearm, you ask to see one, it is a Single Action Army and you take it, cock the hammer like in the movies, and then pull the trigger while pointing it at another customer.

Both the salesperson handing the firearm to you and you, the novice, will both be facing involuntary manslaughter charges (generic as these names of charges vary by state).

Posted by: whig at January 19, 2023 12:34 PM (bDjBG)

315 "Apparently we've depleted our stateside military stockpiles to the point we're now tapping our S Korea military stockpiles to supply Ukraine."

They're just setting the stage for a giant budget increase request to Congress, now that Congress is allegedly going to start passing actual budgets again.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at January 19, 2023 12:34 PM (QkXs2)

316 >>Apparently we've depleted our stateside military stockpiles to the point we're now tapping our S Korea military stockpiles to supply Ukraine.


Didn't we tap the ME supplies...like, yesterday?

Posted by: garrett at January 19, 2023 12:34 PM (TmVxm)

317 @285

>>It's like movies about Hollywood. Hollywood loves to make them..


This is about me, isn't it?

--
Babylon, sure we opened on a shot of an elephant literally and metaphorically shitting on the audience but you should have seen what was originally planned, it would have made The Aristocrats seem tame by comparison.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 19, 2023 12:34 PM (sm3rd)

318 B/c he wouldn't fire the unsafe folks - of course the few pros left b/c they knew what was coming...and Alec better fear their testimony...

Alec should have shut down production, gotten rid of the people who stayed, begged the people who left to come back, and brought in other pros...or just shut down the whole movie as a lost cause...


👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

Posted by: rickb223 Gone Galt at January 19, 2023 12:34 PM (jwRpK)

319 Apparently we've depleted our stateside military stockpiles to the point we're now tapping our S Korea military stockpiles to supply Ukraine.

https://bit.ly/3WorAaj

Posted by: bonhomme

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Stop being a Russian stooge! Don't you want Ukraine to be in a perpetual standstill and accomplish nothing?!!

Posted by: Egg shortages are easily recognized by the overabundance of eggs on grocers shelves at January 19, 2023 12:34 PM (9IIFw)

320 What was that terrible movie where they could 'bend' bullets?
Posted by: Rachel Jeantel at January 19, 2023 12:33 PM (Zz0t1)

Wanted

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 19, 2023 12:34 PM (zZu0s)

321 @286 yup, Harold Lloyd and Buster Keaton come to mind

Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 19, 2023 12:34 PM (dHzaG)

322 >>Apparently we've depleted our stateside military stockpiles to the point we're now tapping our S Korea military stockpiles to supply Ukraine.


Maybe we can borrow some ordnance from our Afghani allies, The Taliban?

Posted by: garrett at January 19, 2023 12:34 PM (TmVxm)

323 317 This is about me, isn't it?

--
Babylon, sure we opened on a shot of an elephant literally and metaphorically shitting on the audience but you should have seen what was originally planned, it would have made The Aristocrats seem tame by comparison.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 19, 2023 12:34 PM (sm3rd)

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"It's about Hollywood! America loves us! And we have Brad Pitt, Margot Robbie, and Tobey MacGuire! We can't fail!"

*fails*

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at January 19, 2023 12:35 PM (LvTSG)

324 Apparently we've depleted our stateside military stockpiles to the point we're now tapping our S Korea military stockpiles to supply Ukraine.
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So if China had a spy elected president, what would that spy do differently than Joe Biden?

Posted by: inquiring mind at January 19, 2023 12:35 PM (1Mmnp)

325 Speaking of snakes, I see that Groot is polling number four in her bid to remain Chicago's overlord.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2023 at January 19, 2023 12:35 PM (FVME7)

326 Listen fat! The tragedy of what happened to poor Alec Baldwin is another reason we need to ban guns! If Alec would have simply had a shotgun, none of this would have happened.

C'mon man!

Posted by: Joe Biden, Redskins Fan at January 19, 2023 12:35 PM (YypaB)

327 321 @286 yup, Harold Lloyd and Buster Keaton come to mind
Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 19, 2023 12:34 PM (dHzaG)

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Those two were professionals who knew what they were doing, and no one got hurt.

Watch the sea battle from the 1925 Ben-Hur. It's said that at least a dozen Italian extras died.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at January 19, 2023 12:35 PM (LvTSG)

328 >In truth, if you wind up like a major league pitcher, step and swing your arm, pulling the trigger exactly when the barrel lines up on target, you maximize your results.

Posted by: by logical extension of illogic

and it helps to brace the barrel of the gun on your non-shooting forearm

Posted by: DB at January 19, 2023 12:36 PM (geLO8)

329 he best gun movie is Equilibrium, with Christian Bale.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at January 19, 2023 12:16 PM (PiwSw)


Meh, "John Wick" did gunkata much much better.

But, for a movie made for a buck forty-five, Equilibrium's pretty good.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 19, 2023 12:36 PM (KLPy8)

330 >>What was that terrible movie where they could 'bend' bullets?


Brian McClellan's Powder Mage Trilogy would make excellent fodder for a film.

Posted by: garrett at January 19, 2023 12:36 PM (TmVxm)

331 262 253 Out of curiosity, how did John Wick do in the theater?
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 19, 2023 12:27 PM (zZu0s)

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Well enough to get 3 sequels. And a television spinoff.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood


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I still think we need another one. Plot:BATFE raids Wick's home and shoots his puppy.

Posted by: rd at January 19, 2023 12:36 PM (cPD52)

332 290 Those people were fucking insane.


Buster Keaton

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 19, 2023 12:36 PM (45LeZ)

333 It will likely be a show trial, and as Ace said, he will never spend a day in prison, which will only embolden Baldwin.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at January 19, 2023 12:36 PM (d2bW3)

334 I wish there was a way to short movies. Because I would place a huge short on the black female lesbo Snake Plisscen movie. HUGE.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at January 19, 2023 12:36 PM (u4CEu)

335 191 Alec Baldwin now gets to understand that in flyover country the law is the law, and has to be treated with respect.
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He probably had lots of lawyers giving him good advice.

But Alec is a pompous ass that knows better than you, and he knows always knows what is best. Also known as Hollywood / Washington DC / NYC Asshole Syndrome.
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That would be a likely explanation for how it's come to this. Baldwin got on his "Do you know who I am?!" high horse and refused to take things seriously and thought it would go away after a month. (It would explain his behavior afterwards.) Oops, it didn't go away, and the NM authorities are taking it 100% seriously. Now he gets to choose about copping a plea (de facto conviction) or a trial jury that has to consider two people shot with actual bullets on a movie set.

Posted by: exdem13 at January 19, 2023 12:36 PM (W+kMI)

336 So if China had a spy elected president, what would that spy do differently than Joe Biden?
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Probably speak in complete sentences. Just a guess.

Posted by: Puddinhead at January 19, 2023 12:36 PM (KY22T)

337 In other news:
Joe Smirkypants is going to be here in Santa Cruz looking at storm damage and lecturing us about climate change.
Asshole.
Traffic is going to be insane.

Posted by: wth at January 19, 2023 12:36 PM (v0R5T)

338
Fake guns generally look pretty fake. Faking recoil looks really fake.

I mean...you can do it. It just looks bad.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood


Fuck them. They're actors. They need to just learn to ACT, which means doing the research on how a gun moves when it recoils, and practicing until they can get the movement close to reality. The rest can be done with editing.

Here in Clownifornia, ordinary citizens can't own otherwise legal NFA registered machine guns (unless they were grandfathered in). Same with any other NFA items. But the film industry has exceptions written into the law specifically to allow them to buy, own, and use any damned NFA firearm they want.

If a citizen can't own it, there's no fucking reason that the film industry has any business owning the same item.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 19, 2023 12:36 PM (n+4am)

339 "I'm always saying, "I predicted this."

I definitely did not predict this."

I understand that on the Hollywood side, their position is thus: actors never do weapon manipulations; armorers do it, slap it in their hand with instructions, and the actors just do what they're told as meat robots. They justify this with "well, almost NOBODY has been shot by accident in 100+ years so this must work"

Well, it works until it doesn't. And legally this is a bit troubling; *I* can arbitrarily proclaim that I'm in charge of gun safety, hand a weapon to someone and tell them to point it at another and pull the trigger, and if they blast someone - well maybe I'm legally liable, maybe I'm not. The shooter is DEFINITELY liable, both legally and ethically. The 4 rules don't have exemptions for entertainers. Sometimes - think military training - other groups also have to point weapons at people. They never, ever, ever, ever do so without proper safety checks on the part of both the wielder and a second party.

This has been downright laziness and arrogance on the part of Hollywood, plain and simple.

Posted by: somedood at January 19, 2023 12:37 PM (BaGvt)

340 I remember getting into a loud discussion with some friends during one of the Mission Impossible movies where Tom Cruise's character hands his wife a gun and says something like "this is a Beretta 92f and it's a very accurate close quarters weapon". My friend shouts "bullshit" and it just got worse from there.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 19, 2023 12:37 PM (wgAtL)

341 Babylon, sure we opened on a shot of an elephant literally and metaphorically shitting on the audience but you should have seen what was originally planned, it would have made The Aristocrats seem tame by comparison.
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Like the people involved in Milf house, everyone of the people involved in that should be sent to a gulag.

Posted by: In favor of gulags all the sudden, didn't see that coming at January 19, 2023 12:37 PM (CGWrD)

342 "Man On Fire"

Denzel for the win.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 19, 2023 12:29 PM (yHBjT)

That is a good one

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at January 19, 2023 12:37 PM (XvPQV)

343 301 Apparently we've depleted our stateside military stockpiles to the point we're now tapping our S Korea military stockpiles to supply Ukraine.

https://bit.ly/3WorAaj
Posted by: bonhomme
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If we actually had senior military with military skills and knowledge we (Ukraine) could have accomplished more with less of our munitions.

But the one thing our govt and military has in abundance is idiots.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at January 19, 2023 12:37 PM (5TmO/)

344 Speaking of snakes, I see that Groot is polling number four in her bid to remain Chicago's overlord.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2023 at January 19, 2023 12:35 PM (FVME7)



Too bad it doesn't matter WHO'S in charge of that shithole.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 19, 2023 12:37 PM (Zz0t1)

345
Yes, the film industry gun privileges in CA law piss me off.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 19, 2023 12:37 PM (n+4am)

346 246 That was Guy Pierce and the Movie was Lockout which was I thought was good popcorn movie
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 19, 2023 12:25 PM (dKiJG)

Guy did a damn good job in that movie. It's clearly an EFNY rip off but it's a Quality rip off.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at January 19, 2023 12:26 PM (XvPQV)

They were sued because the Director said that Escape From NY inspired him, so Carpenter Sued him and Won

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 19, 2023 12:37 PM (dKiJG)

347 LOL, one of the drivers hired to drive elites around in Davos at WEF? Yeah... can't use electric cars. Even though Uber there is all electric, the elites are driven in Internal Combustion cars... why?

Too many problems with electric... like running out of juice.

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 19, 2023 12:37 PM (oHd/0)

348 You want crazy stunts and action sequences?

Watch silent movies.

Those people were fucking insane.


1928 movie, "Noah's Ark." The asshole director dumped hundreds of thousands of gallons of water into an area with a whole bunch of people with no clear direction or safety precautions. Three extras drowned. One person lost their leg. Many people suffered broken bones.

Posted by: bonhomme at January 19, 2023 12:38 PM (eyxn4)

349 The Three Stooges make Chevy Chase's whining about his falling down shtick on SNL look like a pussy.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 19, 2023 12:38 PM (Zz0t1)

350 And, just wanna plug 'Bullet Train' for a fun action comedy. It's not deep but I had more fun watching that movie than I did in a dozen Clint Eastwood movies.

....to be fair, most of the Clint Eastwood movies were not his best.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at January 19, 2023 12:38 PM (XvPQV)

351 Apparently we've depleted our stateside military stockpiles to the point we're now tapping our S Korea military stockpiles to supply Ukraine.

Givin' it all away, givin' it all away.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 19, 2023 12:38 PM (Xrfse)

352 A FEW summers ago, I amused myself by watching some old Roy Rogers movies- apart from all the singing, they are quite ridiculous. Once in a while Roy would get in a shootout with bad guys and he would kill 7 or 8 people.

Posted by: DB at January 19, 2023 12:38 PM (geLO8)

353 Show us the video. There must be some. Or get everyone there to make separate statements to confirm everyone saw the same thing.

If he was just effing around between takes or while the lady was taking a long time to position the camera and he decided to fill the time practicing his 'cross-draw', fired the weapon [esp. while sitting down], then involuntary manslaughter is fine with me; then prove his sentence is the same as other cases with e.g. drunk buddies effing around with an 'unwittingly' loaded handgun, then fine.

But there was alot of talk that he deliberately pointed it at her/them as a joke or out of frustration. If the video or sworn statements show that , then [types, deletes].

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at January 19, 2023 12:39 PM (Vwz3I)

354 325 Speaking of snakes, I see that Groot is polling number four in her bid to remain Chicago's overlord.
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How is she polling with the Chicago Public Teachers Union?

Posted by: Puddinhead at January 19, 2023 12:39 PM (KY22T)

355 My problem with Kurt Russell is that I grew up with him as The Computer Wore Tennis Shoes and such. I specifically remember him in EFNY as Snake and thinking, they intend for me to take this seriously?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2023 at January 19, 2023 12:39 PM (FVME7)

356 and it helps to brace the barrel of the gun on your non-shooting forearm
Posted by: DB


Ever see what happens when you put a hot dog next to a revolver cylinder and pull the trigger?

Bing youtube or Facebook.

Posted by: rickb223 Gone Galt at January 19, 2023 12:39 PM (jwRpK)

357 350 And, just wanna plug 'Bullet Train' for a fun action comedy. It's not deep but I had more fun watching that movie than I did in a dozen Clint Eastwood movies.

....to be fair, most of the Clint Eastwood movies were not his best.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at January 19, 2023 12:38 PM (XvPQV)

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"Not everyone can work at the same, elevated level on every project."
-Uwe Boll

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at January 19, 2023 12:39 PM (LvTSG)

358 If it were Trump, they would be like, well we can't prove that he understood the consequences of pointing a prop firearm at someone.

Tr**p Got His Revenge He really didn't like the impression that Alec did of him. I believe TFG had someone screw with the gun to cause it to fire.

Alec gets charged. TFG is still evading the law. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.


At least they didn't charge him with 1st degree murder. So I guess that it couldn't be politically motivated, but these days, you never know.

There is someone on set who has the job of making sure firearms are safe. It isn't the actor's responsibility. They aren't trained for that. The weapons masters are.

The claim is he didn't do things he should have At least according to one of the prosecutors who's been quoted. The charge requires something beyond a mere oops. They're claiming there was some special kind of stupid involved. I guess we'll find out.

Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison at January 19, 2023 12:39 PM (QPQe6)

359 My husband ees wonderful man, never murder other person. He ees so, how you say een English, innocent!

Posted by: Halaria Baldwin at January 19, 2023 12:39 PM (cUYo/)

360 "Man On Fire"

Denzel for the win.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 19, 2023 12:29 PM (yHBjT)

That is a good one
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at January 19, 2023 12:37 PM (XvPQV)



I watched that movie with the wife the night before I was leaving for a business trip to Mexico City. Not a smart move on my part......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 19, 2023 12:39 PM (Zz0t1)

361 Just simple training. Anybody who touches a firearm has to go to a brief safety course. When handed a gun, you make sure it's unloaded. When the time comes to load it, you and the armorer will inspect every round to make sure it's a blank. Any violation gets a stun gun to the privates.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at January 19, 2023


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Forgive my ignorance. How does a blank differ from a live round at a glance? Are blanks marked as such?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 19, 2023 12:39 PM (J2vNu)

362 The Escape reboot could be worse. Snake could be a tranny

Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 19, 2023 12:17 PM (dHzaG)

Carjack Malone in Escape from LA

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at January 19, 2023 12:39 PM (OgrpQ)

363 I don't think there will be a trial. If there is, Nick Rekieta will wind up with a new house.

Posted by: Ace



New house? Man, New Mexico's got some crazy laws.

Posted by: Hands at January 19, 2023 12:40 PM (786Ro)

364 Excuse me, excuse me, excuse me. . .

Posted by: Alec Baldwin at January 19, 2023 12:40 PM (lf83v)

365 358 If it were Trump, they would be like, well we can't prove that he understood the consequences of pointing a prop firearm at someone.

Tr**p Got His Revenge He really didn't like the impression that Alec did of him. I believe TFG had someone screw with the gun to cause it to fire.

Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison at January 19, 2023 12:39 PM (QPQe6)

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Gotta love 'em.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at January 19, 2023 12:40 PM (LvTSG)

366 >>>Fake weapons gives you Dune when they recoil from laser weapons

Are they laser weapons like phasers, or plasma blasters like Star Wars. The latter most certainly has kick.

And as far as a laser with enough power to cut through someone with something like a 1/10 of a second discharge, your probably looking at a few newtons at least.

Posted by: mikethemoose at January 19, 2023 12:40 PM (T/vhV)

367 So Biden has depleted our Strategic Reserve, and he's depleted our weaponry.

Sure seems like this is in preparation for something.

Good thing he's not know to have any type of under-the-table relationship with China.

Posted by: Egg shortages are easily recognized by the overabundance of eggs on grocers shelves at January 19, 2023 12:40 PM (9IIFw)

368 Never hit Alec Baldwin when he’s down. Kick him, it’s closer.

Posted by: Don Draper at January 19, 2023 12:40 PM (SXH3O)

369 =========

"Not everyone can work at the same, elevated level on every project."
-Uwe Boll
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at January 19, 2023 12:39 PM (LvTSG)



The hells you say.....

- - Manute Bol

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 19, 2023 12:40 PM (Zz0t1)

370 347 LOL, one of the drivers hired to drive elites around in Davos at WEF? Yeah... can't use electric cars. Even though Uber there is all electric, the elites are driven in Internal Combustion cars... why?

Too many problems with electric... like running out of juice.
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Can Al Gore fit into a EV?

Posted by: Puddinhead at January 19, 2023 12:41 PM (KY22T)

371 Forgive my ignorance. How does a blank differ from a live round at a glance? Are blanks marked as such?
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There is no ball or projectile. Just a crimped shell.

Posted by: Alec Baldwin at January 19, 2023 12:41 PM (lf83v)

372 Well, Disney seems set on setting more money on fire.

They just greenlit Tron 3.

Speaking of another franchise from the 80s that no one actually likes.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at January 19, 2023 12:41 PM (LvTSG)

373 315 "Apparently we've depleted our stateside military stockpiles to the point we're now tapping our S Korea military stockpiles to supply Ukraine."

They're just setting the stage for a giant budget increase request to Congress, now that Congress is allegedly going to start passing actual budgets again.
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What it is, is a chance for the U.S. Army and Marine Corps to get crushed in a real fight with a real enemy that deploys armor. Yeah, the Military-Industrial Complex gets paid, but rebuilding stockpiles, let alone having real weapons for training, takes years of production. The Installed Presidency has emptied active duty stores to help Ukraine. What do we do against China's tin can tanks if Xi decides to go after Taiwan now? China's new light tanks aren't much, but they are most certainly bullet-proof!

Posted by: exdem13 at January 19, 2023 12:41 PM (W+kMI)

374 To clarify my post above, this could have been avoided with the simple expedient of the actor verifying the status of the weapon. As could literally EVERY other Hollywood shooting I know of.

The military has specific procedures for clearing weapons before doing stuff like this. If blanks are involves it extends to brass-rodding the bore also - which I may point out would have saved Brandon Lee.

To trust a gun isn't loaded just because someone else says so is the height of stupidity, and to insist you're above doing so is simple arrogance. And if you're incapable of doing it or being trusted with it (even if just under supervision), then you can't be trusted with a firearm in the first fucking place.

Posted by: somedood at January 19, 2023 12:41 PM (BaGvt)

375 >>Forgive my ignorance. How does a blank differ from a live round at a glance? Are blanks marked as such?


Drilled out casings / No Primer for Dummies.

Blanks have no projectile, just a crimp.

Posted by: garrett at January 19, 2023 12:41 PM (TmVxm)

376 Rebooting Escape from New York with a woman? Clam Plissken just doesn't have the same ring to it.

Posted by: Darth Randall at January 19, 2023 12:41 PM (Z41N/)

377 340 I remember getting into a loud discussion with some friends during one of the Mission Impossible movies where Tom Cruise's character hands his wife a gun and says something like "this is a Beretta 92f and it's a very accurate close quarters weapon". My friend shouts "bullshit" and it just got worse from there.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 19, 2023 12:37 PM (wgAtL)

Civilian Beretta 92's that aren't all shot out > Military M9's indifferently maintained

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at January 19, 2023 12:41 PM (XvPQV)

378 Marcus T @ 340-
I had a Gunny hand me a 92F and tell me 'This is what the Navy replaced the 1911 with.' First time I ever had to fire one, qualified Expert.

Posted by: Eromero at January 19, 2023 12:41 PM (z3WCn)

379 Watch silent movies.

Those people were fucking insane.

*********

I watched a few of those on Youtube and initially thought, wow those are some great CGI effects no way that stuntman was really that close to the train and then i remember no CGI O___O

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at January 19, 2023 12:41 PM (VTu1l)

380 Plot Summary for EfNY, the Reboot:

Vice President Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez goes on a Humanitarian mission of mercy to NYC, which has been turned into a JIWC (Justice-Involved Welcome Center), where she is then kidnapped by a far-right group of Trumpist-Nazis. Snizz Plissken is called in to perform a daring (and fabulous) eleventh-hour rescue where she and AOC are helicoptered in to the US Capitol where AOC can cast the tie-breaking vote to pass the bill "Save American from the Trumpian Facists" and preserve Our Precious Democracy(TM).

Roll credits.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at January 19, 2023 12:42 PM (PiwSw)

381 My problem with Kurt Russell is that I grew up with him as The Computer Wore Tennis Shoes and such. I specifically remember him in EFNY as Snake and thinking, they intend for me to take this seriously?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2023 at January 19, 2023


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I remember Kurt from even further back. He was the guest star as the "innocent" (non-spy) character in the very first Man From U.N.C.L.E. I ever saw. He was about 12.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 19, 2023 12:42 PM (J2vNu)

382 "372 Well, Disney seems set on setting more money on fire.

They just greenlit Tron 3.

Speaking of another franchise from the 80s that no one actually likes.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at January 19, 2023 12:41 PM (LvTSG)"

I will give them a pass if they give us more floozies in pleather suits like last time.

Posted by: somedood at January 19, 2023 12:42 PM (BaGvt)

383 297
If you're looking for a fun action movie that just wants to entertain you-

"Plane', an action movie with Gerard Butler is your boy.

He plays a pilot who's plane(!) crashes due to weather on one of those little Philippine isles run by terrorists.
Hijinks ensue.

It doesn't reinvent the wheel. Just good 80s-90s style action movie.

Check it out.
Posted by: naturalfake at January 19, 2023 12:32 PM (KLPy

He signed a 3 Film deal to continue his FALLEN movie series, it's a Prequel that deals with his Military Service, I watch any thing he's in same with Karl Urban

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 19, 2023 12:42 PM (dKiJG)

384 The Escape reboot could be worse. Snake could be a tranny
Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 19, 2023 12:17 PM (dHzaG)
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"Hershe" survives the end of Escape to L.A. (pretty sure she died in that movie) to become the next Snake...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 19, 2023 12:42 PM (YIVH2)

385 Forgive my ignorance. How does a blank differ from a live round at a glance? Are blanks marked as such?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 19, 2023 12:39 PM (J2vNu)

Casing is crimped at the end with no projectile.

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at January 19, 2023 12:42 PM (OgrpQ)

386 Ever see what happens when you put a hot dog next to a revolver cylinder and pull the trigger?
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There's a Smarter Every Day episode where the guy sets up a series of mirrors and a slow motion camera in order to capture the sound/shockwaves from gun blasts and bullets traveling through the air. Really neat to see.

And yeah, the revolver was dirty as heck. Gas everywhere.

https://youtu.be/BPwdlEgLn5Q

Posted by: Egg shortages are easily recognized by the overabundance of eggs on grocers shelves at January 19, 2023 12:42 PM (9IIFw)

387 >> Disney seems set on setting more money on fire.

They just greenlit Tron 3.


Don't be short-sighted.

This could mean another Tron Pinball Machine!

Posted by: garrett at January 19, 2023 12:42 PM (TmVxm)

388 And as far as a laser with enough power to cut through someone with something like a 1/10 of a second discharge, your probably looking at a few newtons at least.
Posted by: mikethemoose at January 19, 2023 12:40 PM (T/vhV)

I read that as 'fig newtons'.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 19, 2023 12:42 PM (zZu0s)

389 *Evel Knievel and Jackie Chan have joined the chat*

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 19, 2023 12:43 PM (4I/2K)

390 225 The best gun movie is Equilibrium, with Christian Bale.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at January 19, 2023 12:16 PM (PiwSw)

Collateral.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at January 19, 2023 12:17 PM (PyOKD)

Heat
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at January 19, 2023 12:21 PM (XvPQV)

Tango and Cash

*I'm keeping to the Kurt Russell theme
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 19, 2023 12:25 PM (Zz0t1)

Soldier...

Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at January 19, 2023 12:43 PM (CCSxw)

391 387 Don't be short-sighted.

This could mean another Tron Pinball Machine!
Posted by: garrett at January 19, 2023 12:42 PM (TmVxm)

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With Jared Leto's face plastered all over it!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at January 19, 2023 12:43 PM (LvTSG)

392 325 Speaking of snakes, I see that Groot is polling number four in her bid to remain Chicago's overlord.

We joke about not voting our way out of this, but Chicago isn't voting their way out. 4 candidates, but I'm sure, no real choice/difference.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at January 19, 2023 12:43 PM (QPQe6)

393 Forgive my ignorance. How does a blank differ from a live round at a glance? Are blanks marked as such?
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Generally, they don't have a bullet in the cartridge. Cartridge is usually pinched shut.

Posted by: Puddinhead at January 19, 2023 12:43 PM (KY22T)

394 Forgive my ignorance. How does a blank differ from a live round at a glance? Are blanks marked as such?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius


Blanks don't have the copper & lead thingy in the end. They are either crimped, or they have a cardboard cap inserted into the actual shell to hold the powder in the shell.

Posted by: rickb223 Gone Galt at January 19, 2023 12:43 PM (jwRpK)

395 392 325 Speaking of snakes, I see that Groot is polling number four in her bid to remain Chicago's overlord.

We joke about not voting our way out of this, but Chicago isn't voting their way out. 4 candidates, but I'm sure, no real choice/difference.
Posted by: Moron Analyst at January 19, 2023 12:43 PM (QPQe6)

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I'm sure the only Republican on the ballot is a gay guy who makes his gayness the only plank of his campaign.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at January 19, 2023 12:43 PM (LvTSG)

396 To clarify my post above, this could have been avoided with the simple expedient of the actor verifying the status of the weapon. As could literally EVERY other Hollywood shooting I know of.
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Sure, but this is Alec Baldwin we're talking about. He's smarter than you.

Posted by: Egg shortages are easily recognized by the overabundance of eggs on grocers shelves at January 19, 2023 12:43 PM (9IIFw)

397 >> Disney seems set on setting more money on fire.

They just greenlit Tron 3.


Don't be short-sighted.

This could mean another Tron Pinball Machine!
Posted by: garrett at January 19, 2023 12:42 PM (TmVxm)

Merchandising!

Posted by: Yogurt at January 19, 2023 12:43 PM (4I/2K)

398 Here's a question, why does Hollywood think we want to watch movies consisting not only of gender swapping but where the genders are not readily obvious and clear to us?

I just want boobies and violence

why is this suddenly such a hard concept to grasp

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at January 19, 2023 12:43 PM (VTu1l)

399 How is she polling with the Chicago Public Teachers Union?

Posted by: Puddinhead at January 19, 2023 12:39 PM (KY22T)
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Teachers need to keep their jobs, so...

Posted by: Axeman at January 19, 2023 12:43 PM (krQz2)

400 @362 good catch, forgot about that character

Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 19, 2023 12:44 PM (dHzaG)

401 "Hershe" survives the end of Escape to L.A. (pretty sure she died in that movie) to become the next Snake...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 19, 2023 12:42 PM (YIVH2)

See 362 - Carjack Malone

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at January 19, 2023 12:44 PM (OgrpQ)

402 >>>Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison at January 19, 2023 12:39 PM (QPQe6)

Yes their insular thinking is amazing.

Not knowing Baldwin was producer.
Believing we would defend anyone for a negligent discharge.
Believing the DA isn't sympathetic to Baldwin's politics
Conspiracy to commit murder by Trump. (I mean wow! Tin foil much? You think that would slip by an LA prosecutor?)

Posted by: mikethemoose at January 19, 2023 12:44 PM (T/vhV)

403 >>191 Alec Baldwin now gets to understand that in flyover country the law is the law, and has to be treated with respect.


Truth

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at January 19, 2023 12:44 PM (d2bW3)

404 Forgive my ignorance. How does a blank differ from a live round at a glance? Are blanks marked as such?
_______
There is no ball or projectile. Just a crimped shell.
Posted by: Alec Baldwin at January 19, 2023


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Ah. I've never handled or seen a blank, only live rounds.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 19, 2023 12:44 PM (J2vNu)

405 I will feel a bit more sympathy for Stephen Crowder if it turns out not to be true that Daily Wire was offering him $50 million over 4 years.

50 million

Posted by: Hands at January 19, 2023 12:45 PM (786Ro)

406 Another gun range safety story. At the indoor shooting range, outside DC,we would get a lot of embassy types who wanted the 2A experience. We also had a contract with a few embassies for their security to use the range, but that's another story. Some third worlder, who assured the range master he knew what he was doing, braced his shooting hand with weak hand atop the wrist, instantly getting shredded by the Browning HP's slide. Range master got the first aid kit, I came back with the mop and bucket.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at January 19, 2023 12:45 PM (lz5hY)

407 I took Hillaria to an Italian restaurant. We had the crimped shells in marinara.

Posted by: Alec Baldwin at January 19, 2023 12:45 PM (lf83v)

408 "I definitely did not predict this.

I will predict a plea deal with no jail, though.

But I was wrong once already."


The trial judge might accept the inevitable defense motion to throw the case out due to lack of evidence.

Posted by: Gref at January 19, 2023 12:45 PM (AMIL/)

409 How does a blank differ from a live round at a glance?

The vasectomy scar.

Posted by: Cliff Claven at January 19, 2023 12:45 PM (a3Q+t)

410 Tron Legacy is a really rare and (now) expensive Pin.

Stern will most likely use this as an excuse to cash in on that.

Posted by: garrett at January 19, 2023 12:45 PM (TmVxm)

411 Big Trouble In Little China, or Soldier. Kurt Russell's best.

Posted by: Eromero at January 19, 2023 12:45 PM (z3WCn)

412
1928 movie, "Noah's Ark." The asshole director dumped hundreds of thousands of gallons of water into an area with a whole bunch of people with no clear direction or safety precautions. Three extras drowned. One person lost their leg. Many people suffered broken bones.
Posted by: bonhomme



During shooting of the Errol Flynn version of The Charge Of The Light Brigade, the filmmakers did some horrible stuff to trip the horses for realism during the battle scene climax. Killed a shitload of horses on set. Flynn was so enraged at the horse slaughter that he tried to kill director Michael Curtiz on set but the crew pulled him off the director before he could throttle him.

Flynn was a drunken degenerate asshole, but I can't say I blame him.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 19, 2023 12:46 PM (n+4am)

413 Apparently we've depleted our stateside military stockpiles to the point we're now tapping our S Korea military stockpiles to supply Ukraine.

https://bit.ly/3WorAaj
Posted by: bonhomme at January 19, 2023 12:32 PM (eyxn4)

==============

Ever think of how many shells they fire off in a week?

The Russians were firing 80,000 shells per DAY, every day, week after week this Summer. 80,000. Eight Hundred - Hundreds.

now the Russians are running low too. They are borrowing from Byelorussia, and buying from North Korea and Iran. They are ONLY firing about 20,000 shells per day now. Only 20,000. every day.

Posted by: rd at January 19, 2023 12:46 PM (cPD52)

414 The Escape reboot could be worse. Snake could be a tranny
Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 19, 2023 12:17 PM (dHzaG)



Snakeless Pusskin.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 19, 2023 12:46 PM (Zz0t1)

415 The best gun movie is Equilibrium, with Christian Bale.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at January 19, 2023 12:16 PM (PiwSw)

Collateral.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at January 19, 2023 12:17 PM (PyOKD)

Heat
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at January 19, 2023 12:21 PM (XvPQV)

Tango and Cash

*I'm keeping to the Kurt Russell theme
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 19, 2023 12:25 PM (Zz0t1)



Old Yeller


Posted by: naturalfake at January 19, 2023 12:46 PM (KLPy8)

416 >359 My husband ees wonderful man, never murder other person. He ees so, how you say een English, innocent!

Posted by: Halaria Baldwin at January 19, 2023 12:39 PM (cUYo/)

Oh Hillary from Dorchester, let your Southie accent free!

Posted by: Heavy Meta at January 19, 2023 12:46 PM (NgqoH)

417 1928 movie, "Noah's Ark." The asshole director dumped hundreds of thousands of gallons of water into an area with a whole bunch of people with no clear direction or safety precautions. Three extras drowned. One person lost their leg. Many people suffered broken bones.
Posted by: bonhomme at January 19, 2023 12:38 PM (eyxn4)

My Grandfather was an Extra for THE BLACK PIRATE and he said he and his buddies that were Saliors were hired because they could swim. The Director pulled the plug to the ship and it was every man for himself,

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 19, 2023 12:46 PM (dKiJG)

418 I read that as 'fig newtons'.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 19, 2023


***
When as a kid I first read about Sir Isaac, that's just what I thought of.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 19, 2023 12:46 PM (J2vNu)

419 405 I will feel a bit more sympathy for Stephen Crowder if it turns out not to be true that Daily Wire was offering him $50 million over 4 years.

50 million
Posted by: Hands at January 19, 2023 12:45 PM (786Ro)

In a way, I would take the opposite stance.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 19, 2023 12:47 PM (zZu0s)

420 >>>Forgive my ignorance. How does a blank differ from a live round at a glance? Are blanks marked as such?

The end of the round (the part that goes into the gun) looks a lot different. For a revolver though, you'd have to pull the round out of the cylinder to see, from the back the rounds look the same.

However whomever loaded that gun should have known the difference. And certainly the fact that it went onto the set with live ammunition means someone really screwed up. And if that screw up was due to poor work practices then the producer is implicated.

Posted by: mikethemoose at January 19, 2023 12:47 PM (T/vhV)

421 412 During shooting of the Errol Flynn version of The Charge Of The Light Brigade, the filmmakers did some horrible stuff to trip the horses for realism during the battle scene climax. Killed a shitload of horses on set. Flynn was so enraged at the horse slaughter that he tried to kill director Michael Curtiz on set but the crew pulled him off the director before he could throttle him.

Flynn was a drunken degenerate asshole, but I can't say I blame him.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 19, 2023 12:46 PM (n+4am)

=========

It's illegal to show horse tripping in films in Britain, so stuff like that gets censored out of home releases.

It's just illegal to do it America now, though we can still see the effects in a bunch of old Westerns (pretty much any Western before about 1955 where a horse falls forward is a horse trip using wire).

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at January 19, 2023 12:47 PM (LvTSG)

422
They'll offer him a nice plea deal. But with that conviction, he might be producing *all* his own stuff for awhile, or nothing, what with the insurance companies likely refusing to cover a studio with him around.

Maybe we've finally seen the last of this ragey 'tard.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 19, 2023 12:47 PM (oINRc)

423 Generally, they don't have a bullet in the cartridge. Cartridge is usually pinched shut.

---

Snake (Pliskin) round. Very much not a blank, though.

I haven't seen that in years, though. I don't know if you can even still buy it.

Posted by: Egg shortages are easily recognized by the overabundance of eggs on grocers shelves at January 19, 2023 12:47 PM (9IIFw)

424 Ever think of how many shells they fire off in a week?

The Russians were firing 80,000 shells per DAY, every day, week after week this Summer. 80,000. Eight Hundred - Hundreds.

now the Russians are running low too. They are borrowing from Byelorussia, and buying from North Korea and Iran. They are ONLY firing about 20,000 shells per day now. Only 20,000. every day.

Posted by: rd at January 19, 2023 12:46 PM



We are in for some serious trouble if we get invaded by some space aliens.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at January 19, 2023 12:48 PM (uNylN)

425 It's like an advertisement for patriarchy, individual achievement, traditional masculinity, heterosexuality, and healthy competition.

Posted by: mikethemoose

Exactly! That's why the movie was so popular. you made my point.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 19, 2023 12:48 PM (Y+l9t)

426 >Here's a question, why does Hollywood think we want to watch movies consisting not only of gender swapping but where the genders are not readily obvious and clear to us?


because Hollywood makes movies for Hollywood, where all those weird behaviors are accepted and celebrated-

and they think the rest of the world is just like that, too

Posted by: DB at January 19, 2023 12:48 PM (geLO8)

427 422
They'll offer him a nice plea deal. But with that conviction, he might be producing *all* his own stuff for awhile, or nothing, what with the insurance companies likely refusing to cover a studio with him around.

Maybe we've finally seen the last of this ragey 'tard.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 19, 2023 12:47 PM (oINRc)

========

He still has his Twitter account, right?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at January 19, 2023 12:48 PM (LvTSG)

428 Big Trouble In Little China, or Soldier. Kurt Russell's best.

Posted by: Eromero at January 19, 2023 12:45 PM (z3WCn)

There is a scene in Soldier when he is dumped on the planet and you can see the wreckage of Deckard's spinner car from Bladerunner.

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at January 19, 2023 12:48 PM (OgrpQ)

429 How does a blank differ from a live round at a glance?
*
The vasectomy scar.
Posted by: Cliff Claven at January 19, 2023


***
Cliff, we should count ourselves lucky that your mother had yours done when you were young. Grade school, I think?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 19, 2023 12:48 PM (J2vNu)

430 Soldier...
Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at January 19, 2023 12:43 PM (CCSxw)

That Movie is in the same Universe as BLADE RUNNER, the Soldiers that replace Kurt were SkinJobs

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 19, 2023 12:48 PM (dKiJG)

431 Patton: “Son, only a pimp in a Louisiana whore-house carries pearl-handled revolvers. These are ivory.”

Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 19, 2023 12:48 PM (44ww/)

432 The best gun movie is Equilibrium, with Christian Bale.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at January 19, 2023 12:16 PM (PiwSw)
Collateral.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at January 19, 2023 12:17 PM (PyOKD)
Heat
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at January 19, 2023 12:21 PM (XvPQV)
Tango and Cash
*I'm keeping to the Kurt Russell theme
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 19, 2023 12:25 PM (Zz0t1)


Old Yeller

Posted by: naturalfake at January 19, 2023 12:46 PM (KLPy
***

Not so fast there Slick.

Posted by: The Dog at January 19, 2023 12:48 PM (anj39)

433 because Hollywood makes movies for Hollywood, where all those weird behaviors are accepted and celebrated-

and they think the rest of the world is just like that, too
Posted by: DB at January 19, 2023 12:48 PM (geLO

You all just shut up!

Posted by: Robert Altman at January 19, 2023 12:49 PM (PiwSw)

434 Snizz Plissken

Dog is looking at me funny as I laughed out loud.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at January 19, 2023 12:49 PM (u4CEu)

435 "Marcus T @ 340-
I had a Gunny hand me a 92F and tell me 'This is what the Navy replaced the 1911 with.' First time I ever had to fire one, qualified Expert.
Posted by: Eromero at January 19, 2023 12:41 PM (z3WCn)"

Ha! It was one of those "religious" gun arguments. And I don't think the 92f is a bad weapon per se (garbage M9'a not maintained subject for another day) but it was a vast improvement over the 1911, especially for accuracy. But you also have to remember that certain groups with more latitude had access to other handguns they felt were better then the M9 and so it became this constant emotion infused conversation borne on frustration.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 19, 2023 12:49 PM (wgAtL)

436 FREE ALEC BALDWIN!
FREE ALEC BALDWIN!

There are more reporters who need a stomping.

Posted by: Mister Ghost at January 19, 2023 12:49 PM (TGPs7)

437 It's weird how "Once Upon a Time in the West" checks so many potential "best" boxes.

Posted by: Egg shortages are easily recognized by the overabundance of eggs on grocers shelves at January 19, 2023 12:49 PM (9IIFw)

438 >>I will feel a bit more sympathy for Stephen Crowder if it turns out not to be true that Daily Wire was offering him $50 million over 4 years.

>50 million


He's already making nearly that much and he'd be giving it away.


Posted by: garrett at January 19, 2023 12:49 PM (TmVxm)

439 398 Here's a question, why does Hollywood think we want to watch movies consisting not only of gender swapping but where the genders are not readily obvious and clear to us?

I just want boobies and violence

why is this suddenly such a hard concept to grasp
Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at January 19, 2023 12:43 PM (VTu1l)

This is also my story

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at January 19, 2023 12:49 PM (XvPQV)

440 It's illegal to show horse tripping in films in Britain, so stuff like that gets censored out of home releases.
______

Like, why would you give acid to a horse?

Posted by: Jeff Spicoli at January 19, 2023 12:49 PM (lf83v)

441 I seem to recall during the Rekeita stream that they described clay rounds as well for close up shots. Non live rounds designed to make a revolver look loaded for head on camera shots.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 19, 2023 12:50 PM (zZu0s)

442 > Civilian Beretta 92's that aren't all shot out > Military M9's indifferently maintained

Yup. If you can't shoot accurately with a 92F in OK condition, that's a you problem.

Posted by: bonhomme at January 19, 2023 12:50 PM (eyxn4)

443 >It's illegal to show horse tripping in films in Britain, so stuff like that gets censored out of home releases.

It's just illegal to do it America now


all the horse mayhem in that battle scene from Braveheart: CGI and animatronics

Posted by: DB at January 19, 2023 12:50 PM (geLO8)

444 440 It's illegal to show horse tripping in films in Britain, so stuff like that gets censored out of home releases.
______

Like, why would you give acid to a horse?
Posted by: Jeff Spicoli at January 19, 2023 12:49 PM (lf83v)

=========

You haven't experienced a good trip until you've tripped with a horse, man.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at January 19, 2023 12:50 PM (LvTSG)

445 So what I'm wondering is, how badly did Alec Baldwin misbehave and anger the prosecutors to spur them into charging him?
++++
Eh, maybe nothing. Baldwin is a dime a dozen from a political standpoint and is a big name. Protecting him isn't worth all that much, and pretending to not protect him isn't particularly expensive. It isn't like alienating Alec Baldwin and his followers is earth-shattering, plus the system can claim it is in the justice business and not even a big shot like Alec Baldwin is above the law.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 19, 2023 12:50 PM (t0OGg)

446
That was Guy Pierce and the Movie was Lockout which was I thought was good popcorn movie
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 19, 2023 12:25 PM (dKiJG)

Guy did a damn good job in that movie. It's clearly an EFNY rip off but it's a Quality rip off.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water


Fun B movie, and Guy clearly had a lot of fun with the character. Snow is extremely quotable.

"I'm being bludgeoned by a guy named Rupert??"

*administers a shot to First Daughter's injured leg*

"This should stop the bleeding. And hopefully, the talking."

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 19, 2023 12:50 PM (n+4am)

447 443 all the horse mayhem in that battle scene from Braveheart: CGI and animatronics
Posted by: DB at January 19, 2023 12:50 PM (geLO

========

A bit too early for any kind of realistic CGI on horses in the mid-90s. It's all animatronics and clever, in-camera tricks.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at January 19, 2023 12:51 PM (LvTSG)

448 436 FREE ALEC BALDWIN!
FREE ALEC BALDWIN!

There are more reporters who need a stomping.
Posted by: Mister Ghost at January 19, 2023 12:49 PM (TGPs7)


That is a good deal. It's better than Buy One Alec Baldwin, get the Second 50% off.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at January 19, 2023 12:51 PM (PiwSw)

449 I will feel a bit more sympathy for Stephen Crowder if it turns out not to be true that Daily Wire was offering him $50 million over 4 years.



And he would've lost all control of his merchandising and every time he got demonitized or deplatformed, he'd lose 20% or more of his salary.

That was an insanely shitty contract.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 19, 2023 12:51 PM (Zz0t1)

450 It's just illegal to do it America now, though we can still see the effects in a bunch of old Westerns (pretty much any Western before about 1955 where a horse falls forward is a horse trip using wire).
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood

What about when Mongo punched the horse in the mouth ?

Posted by: JT at January 19, 2023 12:51 PM (T4tVD)

451 I would, and you would, and everyone here would. But do actors in Hollywood do that on a regular basis? I honestly don't know, but if it's standard practice for the armorer to hand the actor the gun and say "It's okay to use," and for the actor to then use it without personally checking it, then Baldwin isn't any more in the wrong than the rest of them.
Posted by: Dr. T at January 19, 2023 12:19 PM (bhRsz)


Baldwin's father was a shooting instructor at the high school where he taught. Baldwin is on record bragging in old interviews about how well he knows how to handle guns.

Eff him.

Posted by: RondinellaMamma 45 is STILL our duly elected president at January 19, 2023 12:51 PM (l0Cy4)

452 Oh, I don't know. The consequences of a plea include becoming uninsurable. Is Alec mentally ready to not be an actor anymore? Can he afford to do so after a California divorce?

------

Congratulations. Now you really *are* worthless, Alec Baldwin.

Posted by: Hilaria's Flesh-Eating Divorce Attorney at January 19, 2023 12:51 PM (oINRc)

453 403 >>191 Alec Baldwin now gets to understand that in flyover country the law is the law, and has to be treated with respect.

Truth
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at January 19, 2023 12:44 PM

Let's not start sucking each other's dicks celebrating quite yet. He still may not suffer any consequences, at this point.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at January 19, 2023 12:51 PM (QPQe6)

454 Now they train the horses how to fall.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 19, 2023 12:51 PM (45LeZ)

455 Here's a question, why does Hollywood think we want to watch movies consisting not only of gender swapping but where the genders are not readily obvious and clear to us?


because Hollywood makes movies for Hollywood, where all those weird behaviors are accepted and celebrated-

and they think the rest of the world is just like that, too
Posted by: DB at January 19, 2023 12:48 PM (geLO
***

Because the dumbshits in H'wood cannot tell a new story. They have run out of ideas. So they can only retell old stories so the innovative thing to do is change the characters. They have no imagination and cater to their own whims.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 19, 2023 12:51 PM (anj39)

456 You haven't experienced a good trip until you've tripped with a horse, man.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at January 19, 2023 12:50 PM (LvTSG)

Ok, Catherine the Great.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 19, 2023 12:51 PM (zZu0s)

457 450 What about when Mongo punched the horse in the mouth ?
Posted by: JT at January 19, 2023 12:51 PM (T4tVD)

=========

Falling sideways and down is a trick horses can learn.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at January 19, 2023 12:51 PM (LvTSG)

458
What about when Mongo punched the horse in the mouth ?
Posted by: JT at January 19, 2023 12:51 PM (T4tVD)
---
That was a trick that particular horse had learned.

Posted by: Axeman at January 19, 2023 12:52 PM (krQz2)

459 It's weird how "Once Upon a Time in the West" checks so many potential "best" boxes.
___________

Claudia Carinale.

Check-a-rino!

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 19, 2023 12:52 PM (lf83v)

460 How does a blank differ from a live round at a glance?

The vasectomy scar.
Posted by: Cliff Claven at January 19, 2023 12:45 PM (a3Q+t)


A blank should have a crimped top without a bullet.

A Dummy Round has a bullet on top, no primer, and a hole drilled into the side of the casing, with BBs in the case that will rattle, proving no powder is in the case.

Posted by: rd at January 19, 2023 12:52 PM (cPD52)

461 Civilian Beretta 92's that aren't all shot out > Military M9's indifferently maintained

Yup. If you can't shoot accurately with a 92F in OK condition, that's a you problem.

Posted by: bonhomme at January 19, 2023 12:50 PM


I had one and even with my 29 year old cataract filled eyes could keep 45 rounds on the 8 inch plate at 7-10 yards. That was a sweet shooter but heavy as an anvil.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at January 19, 2023 12:52 PM (uNylN)

462 Objection, your Honor. This is an insult to my machismo! I demand to be found not guilty of VOLUNTARY manslaughter.

Posted by: Alec Baldwin at January 19, 2023 12:52 PM (ptElO)

463 stunt horses

Posted by: DB at January 19, 2023 12:52 PM (geLO8)

464
This is also my story
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at January 19, 2023 12:49 PM (XvPQV)



A bandwagon I'm jumping on, and up and down for joy.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 19, 2023 12:52 PM (Zz0t1)

465 Hey guys, I have a question:

How do you tell the difference between a blank and a live round?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at January 19, 2023 12:52 PM (LvTSG)

466 Falling sideways and down is a trick horses can learn.
_______

So can I.

Posted by: Joe Biden on an airplane staircase. at January 19, 2023 12:53 PM (lf83v)

467 China's new light tanks aren't much, but they are most certainly bullet-proof!
Posted by: exdem13 at January 19, 2023 12:41 PM (W+kMI)


It's China, so with their corruption I wouldn't be so sure.

In the long run, it's better to run low on weapons now, than to wait and discover that our manufacturing capabilities are low when we're in the midst of a shooting war involving US forces. The Chinese aren't likely to try anything with Taiwan for another 4-5 years, due to the lack of sealift capability.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at January 19, 2023 12:53 PM (wmDcS)

468 "Guilty!!!!"

*Judge Sharkman slams gavel down on asshoe Alec Baldwin's noggin, rendering him mute forever*

Posted by: Sharkman at January 19, 2023 12:53 PM (WcT8C)

469 gun movies?

Shoot 'em Up

I think thats the one with Clive Owen in a constant gunfight, Paul Giamatti keeps saying "We need more guys", and iir Monica Belucci and her elbows.

Posted by: Hands at January 19, 2023 12:53 PM (786Ro)

470 Baldwin's father was a shooting instructor at the high school where he taught. Baldwin is on record bragging in old interviews about how well he knows how to handle guns.

Eff him.
Posted by: RondinellaMamma 45 is STILL our duly elected president at January 19, 2023 12:51 PM (l0Cy4)

That stream where Rekieta and Brandon Huerra(sp?) are watching Baldwin's police deposition is really fascinating. Alec cannot help but list off all of the things he knows and how familiar he is with guys to the ladies giving the interview, then tries a lame 'I'm not an expert!'

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 19, 2023 12:53 PM (zZu0s)

471 438 >>I will feel a bit more sympathy for Stephen Crowder if it turns out not to be true that Daily Wire was offering him $50 million over 4 years.
>50 million
He's already making nearly that much and he'd be giving it away.

Posted by: garrett at January 19, 2023 12:49 PM (TmVxm)

Jah, it's not the money. Crowder is making bank (and good on him), it's that he's being basically told to kiss the fartclam of Big Tech or lose lots of money.

That doesn't mean Crowder isn't an impulsive jerk, ask anyone who's worked for him, but...he's not wrong I don't think.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at January 19, 2023 12:54 PM (XvPQV)

472 However whomever loaded that gun should have known the difference. And certainly the fact that it went onto the set with live ammunition means someone really screwed up. And if that screw up was due to poor work practices then the producer is implicated.
Posted by: mikethemoose


SUPPOSEDLY, they were using real guns instead of prop guns. And they would go out in the desert AFTER shooting wrapped for the day and shoot off live ammo.

That's why there was live ammo on set in the desert.

Again, supposedly.

Posted by: rickb223 Gone Galt at January 19, 2023 12:54 PM (jwRpK)

473 "Involuntary" means not willful, not intended. Sort of like when you restrain a lowlife street thug with enough fentanyl in his bloodstream to kill a water buffalo.

Posted by: CrustyB at January 19, 2023 12:54 PM (qXzGC)

474 Hey guys, I have a question:

How do you tell the difference between a blank and a live round?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at January 19, 2023 12:52 PM (LvTSG)
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I don't get it.

Posted by: Axeman at January 19, 2023 12:54 PM (krQz2)

475 And he would've lost all control of his merchandising and every time he got demonitized or deplatformed, he'd lose 20% or more of his salary.

That was an insanely shitty contract.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 19, 2023 12:51 PM (Zz0t1)

and he would be responsible for paying His staff no matter what happens and He has had Health issues which I think he is worried about.

I agree with Tim Pool, he should just do it on his own.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 19, 2023 12:55 PM (dKiJG)

476 China's new light tanks aren't much, but they are most certainly bullet-proof!


Yeah, but 30 minutes after you take one out, you're hungry to take out another one.

Posted by: Hands at January 19, 2023 12:55 PM (786Ro)

477 Maybe Baldwin can move on to producing Segal movies.

Let me know when Ashli Babbits killer is charged.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at January 19, 2023 12:55 PM (B2Mbt)

478 The Rekieta Stream watching the Alec Baldwin deposition:

https://tinyurl.com/2ezhejy4

Rumble link.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 19, 2023 12:55 PM (zZu0s)

479 The pretty good actor and superb equine stunt man, Ben Johnson, could put a horse on the ground safely without trip wires.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at January 19, 2023 12:55 PM (lz5hY)

480 How do you tell the difference between a blank and a live round?
__________

One will blow your lung out.

Posted by: Joe Biden, C'mon man! at January 19, 2023 12:55 PM (lf83v)

481 And I don't think the 92f is a bad weapon per se (garbage M9'a not maintained subject for another day) but it was a vast improvement over the 1911, especially for accuracy
----------------
1911s were either made for WWI or WWII. The replacement parts were not as tight as the OEM pistol. I still prefer the 1911 but I do like the double action of the M9. BTW - my armorers made me a very special 1911 to qualify with the pistol. The PMIs were envious.

Posted by: Puddinhead at January 19, 2023 12:56 PM (KY22T)

482 I will feel a bit more sympathy for Stephen Crowder if it turns out not to be true that Daily Wire was offering him $50 million over 4 years.

And he would've lost all control of his merchandising and every time he got demonitized or deplatformed, he'd lose 20% or more of his salary.

That was an insanely shitty contract.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden

======================
AND
Stephen Crowder has to pay his entire production crew out of Crowder's $50 Million.

Posted by: rd at January 19, 2023 12:56 PM (cPD52)

483 479 The pretty good actor and superb equine stunt man, Ben Johnson, could put a horse on the ground safely without trip wires.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at January 19, 2023 12:55 PM (lz5hY)

=========

The star of the little known John Ford film Wagon Master.

Recommended.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at January 19, 2023 12:56 PM (LvTSG)

484 Kurt had a good career as a child actor. He starred in a '63 Western series called The Travels of Jamie McPheeters, and he did Mattel secret-agent toy spots in about 1965. He side-stepped that pitfall of child actors, of not being able to make the leap to adult roles.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 19, 2023 12:56 PM (J2vNu)

485 I had one and even with my 29 year old cataract filled eyes could keep 45 rounds on the 8 inch plate at 7-10 yards. That was a sweet shooter but heavy as an anvil.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at January 19, 2023 12:52 PM (uNylN)

It was my EDC for over 10 years. When I switched to polymer frame pistols, I was amazed. It heavy but good. First pistol I ever loved.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at January 19, 2023 12:56 PM (XvPQV)

486 Soldier...
Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at January 19, 2023 12:43 PM (CCSxw)

That Movie is in the same Universe as BLADE RUNNER, the Soldiers that replace Kurt were SkinJobs
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 19, 2023 12:48 PM (dKiJG)

per IMDB:
In season 7, episode 10 of The Walking Dead, that aired February 19, 2017, Daryl (Norman Reedus) and Richard (Karl Makinen) are standing in front of the trailer that the Snowman drove in Smokey and the Bandit (1977), when they are preparing an attack on the Saviors.

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 19, 2023 12:56 PM (4I/2K)

487 This has been downright laziness and arrogance on the part of Hollywood, plain and simple.
Posted by: somedood
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Ah. I've never handled or seen a blank, only live rounds.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
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Blanks are loaded with a very fast powder and designed to make noise with muzzle flash. A wad is placed on the end of the powder charge in order to make the powder burning more even and avoid spillage of the powder. The end is then crimped in some fashion. The wad and powder charge is sufficient to kill someone at close range such as a mock suicide and to injure a bit further off.

Dummy rounds have a bullet in place but no primer in centerfire versions. I have never seen a rimfire dummy round for obvious reasons, you could not tell between them and a real cartridge. Sometimes these are painted or have literally holes in teh body so they can be identified.

Snapcaps have a solid body of something like aluminum or plastic and the primer cup at the back is filled by either plastic or some sort of springloaded brass in order to not damage the firing pin when dry firing (pulling the trigger for practice or to ensure proper function of the firearm).

Posted by: whig at January 19, 2023 12:56 PM (bDjBG)

488 China's new light tanks aren't much, but they are most certainly bullet-proof!
Posted by: exdem13

It's the melamine in the walls.

Posted by: rickb223 Gone Galt at January 19, 2023 12:56 PM (jwRpK)

489 406 Another gun range safety story. At the indoor shooting range, outside DC,we would get a lot of embassy types who wanted the 2A experience. We also had a contract with a few embassies for their security to use the range, but that's another story. Some third worlder, who assured the range master he knew what he was doing, braced his shooting hand with weak hand atop the wrist, instantly getting shredded by the Browning HP's slide. Range master got the first aid kit, I came back with the mop and bucket.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at January 19, 2023 12:45 PM (lz5hY)

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This was one of the things my gun instructor emphasized - wrap your left hand around your right hand, and make sure your thumbs are both on the same side of the barrel, otherwise you're going to slice it open.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at January 19, 2023 12:56 PM (uPgE/)

490
and he would be responsible for paying His staff no matter what happens and He has had Health issues which I think he is worried about.

I agree with Tim Pool, he should just do it on his own.
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 19, 2023 12:55 PM (dKiJG)



I think that's where he's going with this. He'll be setting up his own content network and bringing over whomever wants to be free to talk as they please.

I think this will end up making him an incredibly wealthy man.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 19, 2023 12:56 PM (Zz0t1)

491 They were shooting at empty whiskey bottles?
Maybe that is why.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 19, 2023 12:57 PM (Y+l9t)

492 Gonna buy a La Banda CD at the dollar store today and listen to it while I tool around town. My Old West Ballads is getting tired, though I love Marricone Good Bad Ugly something powerfull.

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at January 19, 2023 12:57 PM (3Or4S)

493 484 Kurt had a good career as a child actor. He starred in a '63 Western series called The Travels of Jamie McPheeters, and he did Mattel secret-agent toy spots in about 1965. He side-stepped that pitfall of child actors, of not being able to make the leap to adult roles.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 19, 2023 12:56 PM (J2vNu)


The Computer Wore Tennis Shoes.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at January 19, 2023 12:57 PM (PiwSw)

494 483 479 The pretty good actor and superb equine stunt man, Ben Johnson, could put a horse on the ground safely without trip wires.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at January 19, 2023 12:55 PM (lz5hY)

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The star of the little known John Ford film Wagon Master.

Recommended.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at January 19, 2023 12:56 PM (LvTSG)

+1

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at January 19, 2023 12:57 PM (XvPQV)

495 The pretty good actor and superb equine stunt man, Ben Johnson, could put a horse on the ground safely without trip wires.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at January 19, 2023


***
Johnson, I think, had been an actual cowboy, or at least had worked with horses on ranches before becoming an actor.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 19, 2023 12:57 PM (J2vNu)

496 491 They were shooting at empty whiskey bottles?
Maybe that is why.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 19, 2023 12:57 PM (Y+l9t)

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Trump made those whiskey bottles empty!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at January 19, 2023 12:57 PM (LvTSG)

497 China's new light tanks aren't much, but they are most certainly bullet-proof!
Posted by: exdem13



If they're made from Chinese iron, they'll warp and be useless very soon. Just ask my brake rotors.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 19, 2023 12:57 PM (Zz0t1)

498 How do you tell the difference between a blank and a live round?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at January 19, 2023 12:52 PM (LvTSG)

Blanks look like a brass version of an uncircumcised penis.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at January 19, 2023 12:57 PM (Y5qcH)

499 Kurt had a good career as a child actor. He starred in a '63 Western series called The Travels of Jamie McPheeters, and he did Mattel secret-agent toy spots in about 1965. He side-stepped that pitfall of child actors, of not being able to make the leap to adult roles.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 19, 2023 12:56 PM (J2vNu)


He was also a pretty good baseball player.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 19, 2023 12:57 PM (anj39)

500 >>It was my EDC for over 10 years. When I switched to polymer frame pistols, I was amazed. It heavy but good.


Heavy is good. Weight mitigates recoil.

Posted by: garrett at January 19, 2023 12:58 PM (TmVxm)

501 And he would've lost all control of his merchandising and every time he got demonitized or deplatformed, he'd lose 20% or more of his salary.

That was an insanely shitty contract.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 19, 2023 12:51 PM (Zz0t1)

and he would be responsible for paying His staff no matter what happens and He has had Health issues which I think he is worried about.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 19, 2023 12:55 PM (dKiJG)
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Also if he was penalized so much he just decided to quit, the firm would own his likeness and social media presence in perpetuity.

*That* was bullshit.

Posted by: Axeman at January 19, 2023 12:58 PM (krQz2)

502 467 China's new light tanks aren't much, but they are most certainly bullet-proof!
Posted by: exdem13 at January 19, 2023 12:41 PM (W+kMI)

It's China, so with their corruption I wouldn't be so sure.

In the long run, it's better to run low on weapons now, than to wait and discover that our manufacturing capabilities are low when we're in the midst of a shooting war involving US forces. The Chinese aren't likely to try anything with Taiwan for another 4-5 years, due to the lack of sealift capability.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at January 19, 2023 12:53 PM (wmDcS)

They watered down the concrete on the World's biggest Dam and They do the same with Vaccines and Baby Formula which killed a lot of babies

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 19, 2023 12:59 PM (dKiJG)

503 The scene didn't call for blanks. I watched a video of one of the takes (not the one that went wrong) on a second camera. He drew and that was it.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 19, 2023 12:59 PM (44ww/)

504 "Posted by: Puddinhead at January 19, 2023 12:56 PM (KY22T)"

Years ago, we started doing some of the things to the M9 that Ernest Langdon successfully commercialized. Triggers especially.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 19, 2023 12:59 PM (wgAtL)

505 471 That doesn't mean Crowder isn't an impulsive jerk, ask anyone who's worked for him, but...he's not wrong I don't think.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at January 19, 2023 12:54 PM

Ultimately, while i don't 100% trust Crowder, I still trust him infinitely more than The Blaze, Daily Wire, or Ben Shapiro.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at January 19, 2023 12:59 PM (QPQe6)

506
But you also have to remember that certain groups with more latitude had access to other handguns they felt were better then the M9 and so it became this constant emotion infused conversation borne on frustration.
Posted by: Marcus T


My last boss before I left the Army in '91 was an SF Master Sergeant who'd spent most of his career training Central and South Americans, including a stint with the Contras. He told a story about how the Contras all wanted pistols, because in their minds pistol = El Jefe.

So they laid out a bunch of different pistol types on long tables for the Contras to pick and choose. Whatever the Panamanian arms merchants could get their hands on. Each man would pick up a pistol and shake it next to his ear. If it was quiet (meaning tight and well-fitted) they's drop it on the table saying "No bueno". But if it rattled like a set of maracas, they'd smile "Ahhhhh... bueno!". Because they were used to old 1911s that were as loose as Sandra Fluke's piss-flaps. And those 1911s never jammed.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 19, 2023 12:59 PM (n+4am)

507 >>He was also a pretty good baseball player.


You can meet him at just about any Tucson Toros Game.

We sat behind him a few times. Nice guy. Funny.

Posted by: garrett at January 19, 2023 12:59 PM (TmVxm)

508 I have seen the future and WTF?

In the upcoming and highly anticipated space game Starfield (smart asses call it No Man's Skyrim) set in the 2300s, they still use gunpowder firearms.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=B9u-pFqvNuE

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2023 at January 19, 2023 01:00 PM (FVME7)

509 "I will feel a bit more sympathy for Stephen Crowder if it turns out not to be true"

Breaks down to $65K per ep of his show. And Crowder would handle all show production (as he prefers to do,) taken out of the $65K. So it's not as much as it seems.

I like Crowder a lot, but for now I think he's working an angle. He turned down the DW term sheet flat, in disgust. Three months later he comes crawling back asking to talk again. DW tells him, no you were right Steve, this is NOT the contract for you. SC blew all his negotiating leverage for an angry flounce, and now he's mad, and wants to frame DW as an enemy of the right.

Posted by: gp, Standing Up For What's Too Hard To Reach Whilst Sitting at January 19, 2023 01:00 PM (24fqN)

510 How do you tell the difference between a blank and a live round?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison,

Blanks look like a brass version of an uncircumcised penis.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe


So much for playing with a handful of blanks...

Posted by: rickb223 Gone Galt at January 19, 2023 01:00 PM (jwRpK)

511 Ultimately, while i don't 100% trust Crowder, I still trust him infinitely more than The Blaze, Daily Wire, or Ben Shapiro.
Posted by: Moron Analyst at January 19, 2023 12:59 PM (QPQe6)

It's not Binary!

Posted by: Bennie Shapiro, have you seen my sister's rack? at January 19, 2023 01:00 PM (zZu0s)

512 The star of the little known John Ford film Wagon Master.

Recommended.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at January 19, 2023


***
I thought Ward Bond was the title character in that -- a role that led to his casting as wagon master in TV's Wagon Train?

I've seen Ben Johnson in a lot of the early '60s Have Gun -- Will Travel episodes. He was always solid and convincing.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 19, 2023 01:00 PM (J2vNu)

513 484 Kurt had a good career as a child actor. He starred in a '63 Western series called The Travels of Jamie McPheeters, and he did Mattel secret-agent toy spots in about 1965. He side-stepped that pitfall of child actors, of not being able to make the leap to adult roles.
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His story of giving Charles Bronson a birthday present, a model airplane, on the set is really very touching. Charles was struck mute and had to hide in his trailer. He had never received a birthday present - ever.

Posted by: Puddinhead at January 19, 2023 01:01 PM (KY22T)

514 >>The Computer Wore Tennis Shoes.


And the Music played on...

Posted by: Joe Jackson at January 19, 2023 01:01 PM (TmVxm)

515 467 China's new light tanks aren't much, but they are most certainly bullet-proof!
Posted by: exdem13 at January 19, 2023 12:41 PM (W+kMI)

It's China, so with their corruption I wouldn't be so sure.

In the long run, it's better to run low on weapons now, than to wait and discover that our manufacturing capabilities are low when we're in the midst of a shooting war involving US forces. The Chinese aren't likely to try anything with Taiwan for another 4-5 years, due to the lack of sealift capability.
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Funny thing about shooting wars, peace-keeping missions, etc is that they tend to show up outside of regularly planned events. I'm not sanguine enough to think that PRC, the Norks, and Iran haven't noticed this policy decision, and are making plans accordingly. The idea that the US Marine Corps might have fewer ATGW than one might find in Mogadishu really bothers me.

Posted by: exdem13 at January 19, 2023 01:01 PM (W+kMI)

516 Nood tucker carlson. (That will really bring the horde)

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at January 19, 2023 01:01 PM (N1tpc)

517 512 I thought Ward Bond was the title character in that -- a role that led to his casting as wagon master in TV's Wagon Train?

I've seen Ben Johnson in a lot of the early '60s Have Gun -- Will Travel episodes. He was always solid and convincing.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 19, 2023 01:00 PM (J2vNu)

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Ward Bond played the leader of the Mormons, but they hired Johnson to be the titular Wagon Master.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at January 19, 2023 01:01 PM (LvTSG)

518 We sat behind him a few times. Nice guy. Funny.
_________

I'm funny how? Like a clown? I amuse you?

Posted by: Kurt "Tommy Devito" Russell at January 19, 2023 01:01 PM (lf83v)

519
SUPPOSEDLY, they were using real guns instead of prop guns. And they would go out in the desert AFTER shooting wrapped for the day and shoot off live ammo.

That's why there was live ammo on set in the desert.

Again, supposedly.
Posted by: rickb223 Gone Galt

________________________

If you do that? Maybe think two steps ahead, and use only guns and ammo that are not used in the movie?
Maybe only use .22, 9 mm and 5.56 for target shooting, not .45 Long Colt, or 12 gauge shotgun shells?

Make it Idiot Proof. you are dealing with Hollywood Stars after all.

Posted by: rd at January 19, 2023 01:02 PM (cPD52)

520 Kurt had a good career as a child actor. He starred in a '63 Western series called The Travels of Jamie McPheeters, and he did Mattel secret-agent toy spots in about 1965. He side-stepped that pitfall of child actors, of not being able to make the leap to adult roles.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

Must be another kurt

Posted by: raimondo on tap at January 19, 2023 01:02 PM (yUKw+)

521 Obligatory from Team America, Kim Jong Il sings: "Alec Baldwin is worthless":

https://youtu.be/udS6losK7Ts

Posted by: Sharkman at January 19, 2023 01:02 PM (WcT8C)

522 "If they're made from Chinese iron, they'll warp and be useless very soon. Just ask my brake rotors."

we had a huge Cat 836 Compactor sit for three months waiting on a internal driveshaft replacement from...China

I cannot believe Caterpillar uses that kind of hard part made in Chiney.

Posted by: DanMan at January 19, 2023 01:02 PM (DB6tu)

523 508 I have seen the future and WTF?

In the upcoming and highly anticipated space game Starfield (smart asses call it No Man's Skyrim) set in the 2300s, they still use gunpowder firearms.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=B9u-pFqvNuE
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2023 at January 19, 2023 01:00 PM (FVME7)

I agree that while the idea that they do not get replaced eventually is silly, a self contained cartidge is pretty dead nuts simple. It just works. I could see it being used out on the frontiers of a space faring people for quite a while.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 19, 2023 01:02 PM (zZu0s)

524 "I agree with Tim Pool, [Crowder] should just do it on his own."

Of course he should, and he knows it. So what's his angle with all this drama? "Why won't somebody offer me a contract I like?" Silly whine.

Posted by: gp, Standing Up For What's Too Hard To Reach Whilst Sitting at January 19, 2023 01:02 PM (24fqN)

525 495 494 483 In one of the John Ford cavalry movies, the old first shirt is instructing the new recruits how to ride in the manner of the ancient Romans, standing atop two galloping horses. Johnson did the stunt.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at January 19, 2023 01:02 PM (lz5hY)

526 Kurt had a good career as a child actor. He starred in a '63 Western series called The Travels of Jamie McPheeters, and he did Mattel secret-agent toy spots in about 1965. He side-stepped that pitfall of child actors, of not being able to make the leap to adult roles.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 19, 2023 12:56 PM (J2vNu)

He also played minor league baseball. Worked the front office for the Portland Mavericks in the late 70's, which his dad Bing Russell owned. Great documentary about it "The Battered Bastards of Baseball".

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at January 19, 2023 01:02 PM (OgrpQ)

527 Dog is looking at me funny as I laughed out loud.
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🐶
ruh??

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at January 19, 2023 01:03 PM (Vwz3I)

528 The Barefoot Executive which I assume someone will say is Racist now because it's a dog whistle

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 19, 2023 01:03 PM (dKiJG)

529 >>>Exactly! That's why the movie was so popular. you made my point.

Yes that Hollywood today is not interested largely, in making movies that make money. That social conditioning is the ultimate goal, even if they drive every studio into bankruptcy.

Posted by: mikethemoose at January 19, 2023 01:03 PM (T/vhV)

530 I guess I was naive about Crowder and conservamedia. I had no idea that those personalities are pulling in that kind of money. Just left me gobsmacked when I read it yesterday. That's like an NBA contract level or something.

And now the hoard informs me that $50 mil isn't that much in this arena? I guess I need to get out more. I figured a guy like Crowder was making maybe a couple hundred thousand a year or something. Gobsmacked.

No wonder that the conserva-media sphere is so full of wannabes right now. Good grief everything's a racket.

Posted by: Hands at January 19, 2023 01:03 PM (786Ro)

531 But you also have to remember that certain groups with more latitude had access to other handguns they felt were better then the M9 and so it became this constant emotion infused conversation borne on frustration.
Posted by: Marcus T

Replace M9 in that sentence with M17/M18 for the same conclusion.

Running an M18 a few weeks ago. A retired gunny stops by to chat. I point at the M18 in my holster...

"Gunny, I'm not a fan of this pistol."

"Neither am I."

Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free Republic of Florida at January 19, 2023 01:03 PM (MkuC5)

532 504 "Posted by: Puddinhead at January 19, 2023 12:56 PM (KY22T)"

Years ago, we started doing some of the things to the M9 that Ernest Langdon successfully commercialized. Triggers especially.
----------------
Its amazing what knowledgeable armors can do. My 1911 had Walnut grips. Only Generals got those. I was a very sporty 1stLt.

Posted by: Puddinhead at January 19, 2023 01:04 PM (KY22T)

533 525 495 494 483 In one of the John Ford cavalry movies, the old first shirt is instructing the new recruits how to ride in the manner of the ancient Romans, standing atop two galloping horses. Johnson did the stunt.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at January 19, 2023 01:02 PM (lz5hY)

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Rio Grande, I think.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at January 19, 2023 01:04 PM (LvTSG)

534 Yup. If you can't shoot accurately with a 92F in OK condition, that's a you problem.
Posted by: bonhomme

Gun fit to hands is a known issue with the Beretta. In fact, it caused some problems given the differential between male and female hand size which is why the whole replaceable grip frames for different hand sizes was part of the new contract for current military sidearms.

DA/SA intended to prevent accidental discharges also can lead to inaccuracy versus the old single action trigger of the 1911. You have to practice the Crunchenticken of the DA/SA more than for example a Glock.

Posted by: whig at January 19, 2023 01:04 PM (bDjBG)

535 530 I guess I was naive about Crowder and conservamedia. I had no idea that those personalities are pulling in that kind of money. Just left me gobsmacked when I read it yesterday. That's like an NBA contract level or something.

And now the hoard informs me that $50 mil isn't that much in this arena? I guess I need to get out more. I figured a guy like Crowder was making maybe a couple hundred thousand a year or something. Gobsmacked.

No wonder that the conserva-media sphere is so full of wannabes right now. Good grief everything's a racket.
Posted by: Hands at January 19, 2023 01:03 PM (786Ro)

It's a pretty large audience with very little competition.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at January 19, 2023 01:04 PM (eYoxG)

536
I was dead wrong about charges against Baldwin. Maybe.

Still don't see him pleading. Narcissistic sociopath that he is, he cannot accept being anything but the winner. If he gets jailtime he will be the victorious victim, and be proud of himself for that.

Posted by: Auspex at January 19, 2023 01:05 PM (j4U/Z)

537 In the John Wick movies, none of those firearms were capable of shooting anything, not even blanks (see John Eric Hexum). The muzzle blasts were all CGI-ed in.

Posted by: Butch at January 19, 2023 01:05 PM (0APJ3)

538 "Gun fit to hands is a known issue with the Beretta."

B92 is a natural fit for me. My favorite handgun.

Posted by: gp, Standing Up For What's Too Hard To Reach Whilst Sitting at January 19, 2023 01:05 PM (24fqN)

539 He also played minor league baseball. Worked the front office for the Portland Mavericks in the late 70's, which his dad Bing Russell owned. Great documentary about it "The Battered Bastards of Baseball".
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at January 19, 2023


***
Bing Russell must have been smart about money. He was a character actor in TV for quite a while, but never a star like his son became. You'd have to be quite a movie/TV buff, or knowledgeable about Kurt's life, even to recognize his name.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 19, 2023 01:06 PM (J2vNu)

540 "Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 19, 2023 12:59 PM (n+4am)"

Hilarious and typical of the downrange stuff one encounters with the natives. It's also a great example of why we embed people with local forces. Time was, we would come in with our own prejudices and predilections. We finally realized we know a lot. But we can always still learn and adapt.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 19, 2023 01:06 PM (wgAtL)

541 532 504 "Posted by: Puddinhead at January 19, 2023 12:56 PM (KY22T)"

Years ago, we started doing some of the things to the M9 that Ernest Langdon successfully commercialized. Triggers especially.
----------------
Its amazing what knowledgeable armors can do. My 1911 had Walnut grips. Only Generals got those. I was a very sporty 1stLt.
Posted by: Puddinhead at January 19, 2023 01:04 PM (KY22T)

With enough adrenal influence one trigger feels like any other, bad or good. But no miracle can help the widow-maker safety on the M9, unless you decide just not to use it.

Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free Republic of Florida at January 19, 2023 01:06 PM (MkuC5)

542 You want Alec Baldwin to get a flashy, embarrassing trial with Rekiata commentary, then he gets put away for a long time as karma for his ahole hubris and stupidly killing a woman.

You will settle for a flashy, embarrassing trial with Rekiata commentary, then he gets a slap on the wrist but some time served or penalties made.

You will get some BS plea deal, no trial, no time served. Because life is unfair on this side of the veil.

Posted by: LizLem at January 19, 2023 01:07 PM (ijTfm)

543 Breaks down to $65K per ep of his show. And Crowder would handle all show production (as he prefers to do,) taken out of the $65K. So it's not as much as it seems.

Posted by: gp, Standing Up For What's Too Hard To Reach Whilst Sitting at January 19, 2023 01:00 PM (24fqN)
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Yeah, I'm thinking it probably was a promising rate and one were he could pay his staff decently.

But as he saw the penalties, like for *not* staying on platforms, he really didn't see how to pay his staff from 20% of that.

He was thinking of room to roam to express himself, not selling ads with "Conservative Content" that avoids losing brownie points from the Big Tech standards, because of financial penalties.

Posted by: Axeman at January 19, 2023 01:07 PM (krQz2)

544 I'm looking forward to the testimony that the director called for a reshoot of a scene, and Baldwin got pissed and said: "How about I shoot you, instead?" whereupon he pointed the gun at her and pulled the trigger.

Posted by: Sharkman at January 19, 2023 01:08 PM (WcT8C)

545 "Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free Republic of Florida at January 19, 2023 01:03 PM (MkuC5)"

I am somewhat liking the M18. I like the modularity and the fact that now it's been thrown out into the market there is a ton of innovations being made. It also looks like some of the better innovations might become available for upgrades. So there's that.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 19, 2023 01:11 PM (wgAtL)

546 534 Gun fit to hand is very important. I have a fellow geezer friend whose EDC is a Ruger Blackhawk .357. In the unlikely event he doesn't get the job done with six .357s, he has one of those little miserable to shoot but will get the job done (I own one) Ruger LCPs in his hip pocket.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at January 19, 2023 01:11 PM (lz5hY)

547 DA/SA intended to prevent accidental discharges also can lead to inaccuracy versus the old single action trigger of the 1911. You have to practice the Crunchenticken of the DA/SA more than for example a Glock.
Posted by: whig at January 19, 2023 01:04 PM (bDjBG)

With proper training, the only thing DA/SA will cost you is a couple of tenths (at most) getting the first round out.

Honestly. If you can't put the first round out of DA/SA on target at speed, the trigger press is the issue - not the trigger.

Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free Republic of Florida at January 19, 2023 01:12 PM (MkuC5)

548 Funny thing about shooting wars, peace-keeping missions, etc is that they tend to show up outside of regularly planned events. I'm not sanguine enough to think that PRC, the Norks, and Iran haven't noticed this policy decision, and are making plans accordingly. The idea that the US Marine Corps might have fewer ATGW than one might find in Mogadishu really bothers me.
Posted by: exdem13 at January 19, 2023 01:01 PM (W+kMI)


Yes, but those are different than dealing with a full-scale invasion of Taiwan, which would require massive logistics capabilities which the Chinese don't have. As for those brushfire wars... the problem isn't that Ukraine drained our capabilities, but that our capabilities were allowed to deteriorate to such an extent in the first place.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at January 19, 2023 01:12 PM (wmDcS)

549 I've noticed that Blaze or DW hosts often seem muzzled in what they can say or do. Certain hot topics certain hosts just don't comment about. Now we know why, they don't want to get penalized, by their OWN company, forget big tech.

I'm grateful for the DW vid peeling back the contract and being transparent about their wording and why. It would be a fine deal for a baby conservative trying to get their foot in the door. New exposure and money, get your feet wet, begin building your empire. Walk away after a few years since they own all the content you made there and the platforms they built (which is CRAPPY, but whatever) and set up a new age of your content on your terms.

It's a CRAPPY deal for a Stephen Crowder, who has built arguably the largest conservative online platform. The deal as written is fine for a newbie, but understandably insulting for him.

Steven needs to pull an Adam Carolla, arguably the GOAT of startup podcasting, and just build his own damn Pirate Ship. Adam proudly built his own platform so he can say and do whatever he wants. It's time, Stephen, you are ready. Do the same.

Posted by: LizLem at January 19, 2023 01:15 PM (ijTfm)

550 545 "Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free Republic of Florida at January 19, 2023 01:03 PM (MkuC5)"

I am somewhat liking the M18. I like the modularity and the fact that now it's been thrown out into the market there is a ton of innovations being made. It also looks like some of the better innovations might become available for upgrades. So there's that.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 19, 2023 01:11 PM (wgAtL)

I actually completely agree. I love how it feels in my hand. And it is very accurate.

But when I actually have to run it for time, it just drives like a bad pickup truck.

Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free Republic of Florida at January 19, 2023 01:15 PM (MkuC5)

551 "Honestly. If you can't put the first round out of DA/SA on target at speed, the trigger press is the issue - not the trigger.
Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free Republic of Florida at January 19, 2023 01:12 PM (MkuC5)"

Truth. I have a highly customized p229 DA/SA and it's really my favorite handgun.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 19, 2023 01:16 PM (wgAtL)

552 Big Trouble In Little China, or Soldier. Kurt Russell's best.
==
the BAREFOOT EXECUTIVE you mean!!!!

also starring John Ritter.

Posted by: Ha! at January 19, 2023 01:17 PM (CGWrD)

553 And those 1911s never jammed.
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#MeToo !!

Posted by: Sandra Fluke's piss-flaps at January 19, 2023 01:17 PM (Vwz3I)

554 Heh. We could have a thread on coated frying pans and turn it into a gun thread. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at January 19, 2023 01:18 PM (lz5hY)

555 "But when I actually have to run it for time, it just drives like a bad pickup truck.
Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free Republic of Florida at January 19, 2023 01:15 PM (MkuC5)"

Also true. And Also why I have mixed emotions on certain features I believe leads to that. Sort of a damned if you do, damned if you don't thing.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 19, 2023 01:18 PM (wgAtL)

556 I have a highly customized p229
--
i used to have the 229 elite with the short reset trigger

canoe capsized

Posted by: I also have tiny little racoon hands at January 19, 2023 01:18 PM (CGWrD)

557 i still dont like the fact that halyna hutchins was married to a lawyer that worked for the same law firm that was defending the only lawyer at hillary clintons 2016 campaign law firm who was indicted in the durham probe and i especially dont like the timeline: he was indicted and then halyna hutchins died and then he was found not guilty what are the chances all the law firms all the wives all the cinematographers all the movies being made and it all came together on one fateful day

Posted by: sound awake at January 19, 2023 01:22 PM (XLKc7)

558 We could have a thread on coated frying pans and turn it into a gun thread.
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My coated frying-pan is called The Rock but not a 1911 one.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at January 19, 2023 01:24 PM (Vwz3I)

559 555 "But when I actually have to run it for time, it just drives like a bad pickup truck.
Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free Republic of Florida at January 19, 2023 01:15 PM (MkuC5)"

Also true. And Also why I have mixed emotions on certain features I believe leads to that. Sort of a damned if you do, damned if you don't thing.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 19, 2023 01:18 PM (wgAtL)

I ran my new CZ P-10 F on Saturday. While I won't carry anything but DA/SA (decocked), the P-10 is just one damn fine pistol. I'm perfectly happy to carry it in a proper Level 2 holster.

Since Saturday, two of my buds went out and bought P-10s. One of which was running his old fav G19 on Saturday as well.

It's a little light in the fore end, so I added a TLR7 and a little bit stronger DPM spring to it to see if I can shorten the recoil wave. We'll see how it goes.

BTW, as you already know, the P229 DA/SA also belongs in the category of Damn Fine Pistols, along with my fully Cajunized 75B PCR.

Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free Republic of Florida at January 19, 2023 01:28 PM (MkuC5)

560 Of course You should kick them when they are down, You don't have to lift Your leg as high

Posted by: scooter at January 19, 2023 01:30 PM (RLfpp)

561 "Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free Republic of Florida at January 19, 2023 01:28 PM (MkuC5)"

I really like the p10. It's a pretty solid pistol any most things CGW does ends up making it better.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 19, 2023 01:32 PM (IaTa3)

562 I ought to love the CZ P-10 but...I don't. I do love the P-07, but I don't shoot the P-10 as well as I do the XD9 or PSA Dagger even. Dunno why.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at January 19, 2023 01:37 PM (XvPQV)

563 Ever see what happens when you put a hot dog next to a revolver cylinder and pull the trigger?

Bing youtube or Facebook.


Safesearch off for best results.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at January 19, 2023 01:56 PM (PIobT)

564 Ace --

Not negligent, reckless. Still not intentional, but it is reckless to point a gun at other people and pull the trigger not knowing whether the chamber was loaded or not.

Posted by: A Concerned Citizen at January 19, 2023 02:21 PM (zcPgo)

565 Great. Just what we need, 6 more bastard children on the street with no father.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at January 19, 2023 02:21 PM (kaTkN)

566 I get paid over $85 per hour working from home with 2 kids at home. I never thought I'd be able to do it but my best friend earns over 12,000 bucks a month doing this and she convinced me to try. The potential with this is endless.
Here's what I've been doing... www.Payathome7.com

Posted by: www.Payathome7.com at January 19, 2023 03:31 PM (yfv9o)

567 The only thing that I find curious is that the term "federal charges of ..." is used in the reportage. I assume that this is typical sloppy reporting by media drones.

The charges seem reasonable. That woman would not be dead if any one of those three imbeciles knew how to correctly handle firearms. I see that the idiot that handed the gun to Baldwin already took a plea of a misdemeanor charge. I wonder if the other two idiots refused a plea bargain, or weren't offered one.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at January 19, 2023 03:53 PM (pJWtt)

568 Alec's wife Hilaria Baldwin was saying,

"¡Ay, caramba! No sabía que el arma estaba cargada. Mi Alec fue incriminado."

You know she's Spanish so I'll translate:

Oh no. He didn’t know the gun was loaded. My Alec was set up.

Posted by: Barry Au Aqua at January 19, 2023 04:40 PM (aAgG1)

569 PETA has used him and Pamela Anderson in stupid ads and he ruined a classic kids book with his awful movie CAT IN THE HAT

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at January 19, 2023 05:36 PM (wGqjj)

570 I had a professor in college who had three famous phrases. One of them was "never kick a man UNLESS he's down" He then demonstrated that principle through history examples. It was fantastic.

Posted by: Tom at January 19, 2023 07:56 PM (pkROM)

571 It is a hard sell Arec has in a sane world.....

Arec Borwin the actor has to argue that Arec Borwin the Producer was not criminally negligent in allowing the accused armorer to be an asshsat....

Good ruck Arec

Posted by: sven at January 19, 2023 08:21 PM (Lzpvj)

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