Wednesday Morning Rant [Joe Mannix]

Panopticon

In the lead-up to Christmas there are always shows, events, sports contests and the like. This year, some people were disqualified from attending. In the high-tech, big-money live entertainment hub of New York City, there were two instances of people being denied entry to shows at Madison Square Garden properties. Both were lawyers who were booted out because of their affiliation with a firm that is suing Madison Square Garden. That company has a policy that nobody associated with the law firm can enter their property.

It is perhaps a bit of an overreaction to ban anyone with any association with the firm rather than just the litigating attorneys, but that is secondary in my mind. More important in my opinion is how the ban was enforced. In both cases - once at a show, once at a basketball game - the lawyers who were kicked out were automatically identified by facial recognition systems that then dispatched security guards to intercept them and the remove them from the facility.

The news coverage of this in NY is largely focused on how unfair it is to the paying customers who were kicked out of the venue. This is decidedly beside the larger point to a degree that I think is on purpose. The real problem is the proliferation of such technology, its widespread application, the questions over where the matches came from, how consent is handled and what it implies about the future. Being kicked out of a basketball game is fairly tame in context.

The implications are as bad as they are creepy. Sure, this is a private enterprise rather than a government but they're all more alike than they are different and are usually in bed together. Madison Square Garden is a big enterprise, and they've been using this technology for several years, though never with public backlash until now. How did they get the hit? How do they have the facial recognition data on the people they want to forbid entry? Where did the source material come from? Did they acquire it themselves, and if so then how did they acquire it? Did they buy it? If so, from whom? Are government databases involved in the acquisition? Do they come from Big Tech? If you use a "face unlock" system on your mobile phone or computer, is that identifying information sold off to third-party facial-recognition vendors?

It is unlikely that either of the people who were kicked out (or anyone else attending an event at an MSG facility) consented to facial recognition activities. I certainly haven't. It may be buried in the fine print somewhere on the ticket or venue policies, but that is inadequate for something as important as consenting to participation in facial recognition systems, especially as they spread. Nobody provides affirmative consent for this, yet here we are.

How long until the government does the same? What are the implications of the "guilt by association" aspect of this story? The lawyers who were kicked out of the venues were not involved in the litigation against MSG, but were affiliated with the law firm handling the litigation. They weren't involved, but they were on the enemy team and so were denied entry. Sure, they could have been spies. So could anyone. The guilt by association angle is going to set the stage for the next phase of this kind of thing. Of sure you might not be a MAGA type, but you represented one in a lawsuit. Goodbye. Oh, a wrongthinker is your friend? You're compromised. Goodbye. You don't even associate with regressives, but the facial recognition system identified that you've attended too many events where regressives were in close proximity? Too risky. Goodbye.

It will be even better when these systems are extended to run of the mill commercial enterprises. Big retailers like Wal-Mart or Kroger or Target could probably do it today, they just don't (that I'm aware of). All they'll need is a little push from a "friend" in the deep state.

The Great Sorting is underway and you will fall into one of three groups. You'll be Ruling Class (no, you probably won't) and above the law, you'll be a normal subject and your life will proceed along as usual in a totalitarian system or you'll be a wrongthinker and forced to the margins, spending more and getting less and falling further and further behind as you're squeezed out of society. How many people will be in group three? A quarter? A third? A tenth? Whatever the answer, it's too many and none of them agreed to it.

If you think that the deep state directing their "private sector" affiliates to engage in censorship is bad, just wait until phase two kicks off.

Posted by: Open Blogger at 11:00 AM

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Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 28, 2022 11:01 AM (Q4IgG)

2 Cigarette monkey is smoking a filtered cigarette?

Like drinking coffee through a veil.
-Audrey Hepburn, Charade

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at December 28, 2022 11:02 AM (zZu0s)

3 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 28, 2022 11:02 AM (Zz0t1)

4 Done fetched 'em.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 28, 2022 11:03 AM (Q4IgG)

5
Us Kool Kidz go anywhere we want.

*dons shades*
*lights cigarette*

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 28, 2022 11:03 AM (Emray)

6 Only a cop would use such a fancy, $5 word...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at December 28, 2022 11:03 AM (LvTSG)

7 I am sure the NSA has all the data.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at December 28, 2022 11:03 AM (C2ZTD)

8 Really good reason to support masks.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at December 28, 2022 11:04 AM (C2ZTD)

9 I plan to live my life as a Christian in the late Roman Empire.

Obey the just laws. Ignore the evil ones. Don't try to overthrow the Deep State.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at December 28, 2022 11:04 AM (I9VC/)

10 Big bro?....more like big MIL.

Posted by: BignJames at December 28, 2022 11:04 AM (AwYPR)

11 MUH PRIVATE BUSINESS!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 28, 2022 11:05 AM (Zz0t1)

12 F F Fi Firs F F

Damned timewasting st-stuttetter!!!!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at December 28, 2022 11:05 AM (IOu4z)

13 There is an Israeli company which sells software that can access any internet connected camera, watch its feed, change archives, move the pan/tilt/ zoom.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at December 28, 2022 11:06 AM (C2ZTD)

14 Really good reason to support masks.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at December 28, 2022 11:04 AM (C2ZTD)
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Yeah. That won't help against some of the really sophisticated systems that focus on eyes and eyes and build, or those that account for gait - but those aren't most systems as far as I'm aware.

I'd like a stetson hat with bright infrared LEDs embedded on the underside of the brim and a small battery pack at the top, so that it will flood me with IR light and cameras will just see a white blur. It would take some seriously powerful IR emitters, though, and I don't know if there would be negative consequences to my health if I wore it...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 28, 2022 11:06 AM (t0OGg)

15 6 Only a cop would use such a fancy, $5 word...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at December 28, 2022 11:03 AM (LvTSG)
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How much can I get for "poipehtraitor"?

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at December 28, 2022 11:06 AM (IOu4z)

16 *Raises glass*

Here's to securing a place of honor among the wrongthinkers.

Posted by: She Hobbit at December 28, 2022 11:06 AM (ftFVW)

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Posted by: Martini Farmer

This person is a committed Never Firster!

I demand that this honor be stripped from them and they be subjected to the [ 100 comment rule ] in every thread!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 28, 2022 11:07 AM (pNxlR)

18 15 How much can I get for "poipehtraitor"?
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at December 28, 2022 11:06 AM (IOu4z)

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Best we can do is $3.50.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at December 28, 2022 11:07 AM (LvTSG)

19 Trillions of dollars for the first person who invents a wearable device that pixilates or distorts the face from surveillance cams.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 28, 2022 11:07 AM (Angsy)

20 Really good reason to support masks.

Note taken.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at December 28, 2022 11:07 AM (I9VC/)

21 Very scary stuff. These days, I am suspicious of all big orgs and their use of technology to id and track me and my movements, actions, and spending. I witnessed it first hand working for a monster bank years ago.

It hasn't gotten any better.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 28, 2022 11:08 AM (qoGsy)

22 Banning lawyers can only be a good thing for society.

Posted by: Next2Nothing at December 28, 2022 11:08 AM (tA1/w)

23
Yeah it all made us safer, didn't it? Cities are peaceful, crime is lower than ever. Just don't go out at night, that's all. And stay off public transit. And don't worry about that whole surveillance state thing - government people and shadowy technocrats are never dangerous, let alone more dangerous than any criminal or terrorist.

Just remember to STAY SEEEF!

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 28, 2022 11:08 AM (oINRc)

24 Just remember to STAY SEEEF!
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 28, 2022 11:08 AM (oINRc)
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Heh. All shall bow at the altar of "public safety."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 28, 2022 11:09 AM (t0OGg)

25
I'd like a stetson hat with bright infrared LEDs embedded on the underside of the brim and a small battery pack at the top, so that it will flood me with IR light and cameras will just see a white blur. It would take some seriously powerful IR emitters, though, and I don't know if there would be negative consequences to my health if I wore it...
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

That was a plot point in Edgar Wright's middling crime film "Baby Driver". The big post office heist had the crew wearing big glasses with IR and visible LEDs that screwed up the cameras.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 28, 2022 11:09 AM (n+4am)

26 I googled "poipehtraitor" for its meaning and got "poopetrator" instead. Seriously, I did get this result from Google.

No doubt it was filtered by servers residing in San Francisco.

Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie at December 28, 2022 11:10 AM (xxG/v)

27 24 Just remember to STAY SEEEF!
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 28, 2022 11:08 AM (oINRc)
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Heh. All shall bow at the altar of "public safety."
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 28, 2022 11:09 AM (t0OGg)

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"In order to keep the public safe, in particular the children, all homosexuality is banned."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at December 28, 2022 11:10 AM (LvTSG)

28 Twitter had a slack (chat) channel dedicated solely to taint licking Fauci

the human race is properly fucked

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at December 28, 2022 11:10 AM (VTu1l)

29 There simply will not be a peaceful way out of this. Certainly not by 'voting.' And not by boycotts, because as we have seen, the right simply has neither the stomach nor the will to boycott.

I am glad that I am old and not in good health. I won't have to live long under this rotten rule.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 28, 2022 11:10 AM (AW0uW)

30 When some of the Horde begin playing word games, this place can become a Punoctagon.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 28, 2022 11:11 AM (tkR6S)

31 One advantage of being first to the gulag is you get your choice of bunks.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 28, 2022 11:11 AM (DhOHl)

32 When some of the Horde begin playing word games, this place can become a Punoctagon.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 28, 2022 11:11 AM (tkR6S)
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Well done, AOP.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 28, 2022 11:11 AM (t0OGg)

33
“Smith! 6079 Smith W.! Yes, you!"

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 28, 2022 11:11 AM (MoZTd)

34
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"In order to keep the public safe, in particular the children, all homosexuality is banned."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at December 28, 2022 11:10 AM (LvTSG)

Take me to your leader.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 28, 2022 11:12 AM (Zz0t1)

35 We didn't get Big Brother as assigned reading back in school. We had Animal Farm and Brave New World. AF is clearly allegory for how commies convinced people the czars were horrid and then they were just as bad once in power. BNW just seemed weird. And here we are in a bizarre BNW, Fahrenheit 451 mashup.

Instagram et al are taking the place of "write yourself into the script of the show from F 451" And people are very happy to go "science, politics, whatever is too complicated, I am happy to let the alphas deal with that"

Posted by: PaleRider at December 28, 2022 11:12 AM (3cGpq)

36 Yeah it all made us safer, didn't it? Cities are peaceful, crime is lower than ever. Just don't go out at night, that's all. And stay off public transit. And don't worry about that whole surveillance state thing - government people and shadowy technocrats are never dangerous, let alone more dangerous than any criminal or terrorist.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 28, 2022 11:08 AM (oINRc)

Are you being facetious? If I didn't know better, I'd think you were being facetious.

Posted by: BignJames at December 28, 2022 11:12 AM (AwYPR)

37 It's possible they got their picture taken at a meeting on site as part of their security processing.

Does Madison Square Garden get government subsidies or tax breaks, because that seems wrong to be allowed to discriminate.

Posted by: squid_hunt at December 28, 2022 11:12 AM (qZ9Nw)

38 When some of the Horde begin playing word games, this place can become a Punoctagon.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 28, 2022 11:11 AM (tkR6S)

And when being watched, a Punopticon.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 28, 2022 11:12 AM (Angsy)

39
I am glad that I am old and not in good health. I won't have to live long under this rotten rule.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 28, 2022 11:10 AM (AW0uW)

Yup. Some time ago, we passed the point where the young envy the old. We're now at the stage when the old envy the dead.

Good times.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 28, 2022 11:12 AM (oINRc)

40 When some of the Horde begin playing word games, this place can become a Punoctagon.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

Two puns enter, one pun leaves!

Posted by: She Hobbit at December 28, 2022 11:12 AM (ftFVW)

41 How long until the government does the same?
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Just follow the CCP:

https://tinyurl.com/yz2ru3ym

(Nitter)

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at December 28, 2022 11:13 AM (IOu4z)

42 >this place can become a Punoctagon.

Gonna be hard to square that circle.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 28, 2022 11:13 AM (DhOHl)

43 "Trillions of dollars for the first person who invents a wearable device that pixilates or distorts the face from surveillance cams.
Posted by: OrangeEnt"

If that come about it will be made illegal (like radar detectors) and security will be alerted and track you down.

Posted by: Ripley at December 28, 2022 11:13 AM (cUYo/)

44 I don't know if Jane D'oh has checked in yet this morning, but she was asking for prayers for her husband last night on the ONT. He is very sick. Horde prayers would be greatly appreciated at this time.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at December 28, 2022 11:14 AM (a4EWo)

45
I googled "poipehtraitor" for its meaning and got "poopetrator" instead. Seriously, I did get this result from Google.

No doubt it was filtered by servers residing in San Francisco.
Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie at December 28, 2022 11:10 AM (xxG/v)

Google is always pushing celebrity news and sensationalism.

Posted by: Amber Heard at December 28, 2022 11:14 AM (oINRc)

46 I'd like a stetson hat with bright infrared LEDs embedded on the underside of the brim and a small battery pack at the top, so that it will flood me with IR light and cameras will just see a white blur. It would take some seriously powerful IR emitters, though, and I don't know if there would be negative consequences to my health if I wore it...
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 28, 2022 11:06 AM (t0OGg)

It might make your face warm.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 28, 2022 11:14 AM (tkR6S)

47 When some of the Horde begin playing word games, this place can become a Punoctagon.

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Pondeering the potential panoply of punditry presented by opening Pandora's Box presents a plentitude of problematic possibilities!

Posted by: Muldoon at December 28, 2022 11:14 AM (ykeLU)

48 Some guys liked "Brave New World" for the soma and the pneumatic women.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at December 28, 2022 11:14 AM (I9VC/)

49 Great rant.

The fine print on the ticket probably absolves them of all sins, since it leads no doubt to a 38 page release found only on the internet, and only after navigated a byzantine path.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 28, 2022 11:14 AM (XIJ/X)

50 Jeremiah 15:2 And it shall be that when they say to you, ‘Where should we go?’ then you are to tell them, ‘This is what the Lord says:

“Those destined for death, to death;
And those destined for the sword, to the sword;
And those destined for famine, to famine;
And those destined for captivity, to captivity.

Revelation 13:9-10
If anyone has an ear, let him hear. If anyone is destined for captivity, to captivity he goes; if anyone kills with the sword, with the sword he must be killed. Here is the perseverance and the faith of the saints.

Posted by: Miss Issippi at December 28, 2022 11:14 AM (sI15f)

51 I got stopped, pulled over, and had my car confiscated once. I hadn't failed to use a turn signal or anything. Cops at a corner just typed my license plate into a computer and it came up that my license was suspended. (It wasn't).

I went to court several times. Each time they offered to dismiss it for a smaller fine, but I wanted a trial. I wanted to get someone behind me to say that this random search was unwarranted and unconstitutional. My thought was exactly that LEOs would use facial recognition in public and arrest anyone with an outstanding warrant.

Eventually the prosecutor said "null pross" or something and the judge dismissed the case. I told him I wanted to keep the case alive so that I would have standing to fight the law. He said, "there is no case". And that was the end of it.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 28, 2022 11:14 AM (e+csY)

52 Gonna be hard to square that circle.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 28, 2022 11:13 AM (DhOHl)

Easy enough at MSG.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 28, 2022 11:14 AM (Angsy)

53 Fortunately, I feel the same way about Addams as I do about Trek - the original is the only one that matters; every other iteration is a worthless poseur.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 28, 2022 10:27 AM (AW0uW)

Not the same after Raul Julia died.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 28, 2022 11:14 AM (44ww/)

54 Thanks DDS - I did not know. Prayers offered for complete healing.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 28, 2022 11:14 AM (qoGsy)

55 Here's something interesting... we have several of those Blink security cameras. Blink is an Amazon company. There is a discussion on some technical sites that purport Amazon employees, the ones that deliver your packages can disable those camera so they themselves are never seen on video.

It's presumed they have an app that can do this. It almost seems plausible because there are a lot of stories about Amazon delivery people never showing up on the camera feeds or saved clips.

It could also be faulty cameras, poor conditions, lousy installation, etc.

However the evidence is compelling.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 28, 2022 11:15 AM (Q4IgG)

56 Are you being facetious? If I didn't know better, I'd think you were being facetious.

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I'm assuming Yud is being facetious to make it more difficult for the face scanners to recognize him

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at December 28, 2022 11:15 AM (VTu1l)

57 We didn't get Big Brother as assigned reading back in school. We had Animal Farm and Brave New World. AF is clearly allegory for how commies convinced people the czars were horrid and then they were just as bad once in power. BNW just seemed weird. And here we are in a bizarre BNW, Fahrenheit 451 mashup. ...
Posted by: PaleRider at December 28, 2022 11:12 AM (3cGpq
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The dorm room philosophers arguing over whether future would be "Fahrenheit 451" or "Brave New World" or "1984" all failed to embrace the power of and.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 28, 2022 11:15 AM (t0OGg)

58 47 Pondeering the potential panoply of punditry presented by ~~opening~~ priming Pandora's Box presents a plentitude of problematic possibilities!
Posted by: Muldoon at December 28, 2022 11:14 AM (ykeLU)

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Suggested edit.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at December 28, 2022 11:15 AM (LvTSG)

59 All these great technologies will be used to control the political space, not the criminal space.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at December 28, 2022 11:16 AM (I9VC/)

60 "In order to keep the public safe, in particular the children, all homosexuality is banned."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

And Methodists.

Posted by: rickb223 Gone Galt at December 28, 2022 11:16 AM (txGor)

61 60 And Methodists.
Posted by: rickb223 Gone Galt at December 28, 2022 11:16 AM (txGor)

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But mostly the Methodists.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at December 28, 2022 11:16 AM (LvTSG)

62 Reminds me quite a bit of 'Minority Report' and the universal surveillance state. Somehow, I don't think this will be fixed by a quick end summary title card in the last 30 seconds.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at December 28, 2022 11:17 AM (pyVNc)

63 The fine print on the ticket probably absolves them of all sins, since it leads no doubt to a 38 page release found only on the internet, and only after navigated a byzantine path.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 28, 2022 11:14 AM (XIJ/X)
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“Yes,” said Arthur, “yes I did. It was on display in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying ‘Beware of the Leopard’.”

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 28, 2022 11:17 AM (t0OGg)

64 62 Reminds me quite a bit of 'Minority Report' and the universal surveillance state. Somehow, I don't think this will be fixed by a quick end summary title card in the last 30 seconds.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at December 28, 2022 11:17 AM (pyVNc)

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"Oh, he just killed a woman? Like, who gives a fuck? Kill John Anderton to keep things quiet."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at December 28, 2022 11:17 AM (LvTSG)

65
"In order to keep the public safe, in particular the children, all homosexuality is banned."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood

Ironically, this had been the policy of virtually every socialist/communist junta in history. It's just a matter of time until the present day homo commies are issued pink triangle patches and are forced up against the wall. Probably about the time the Donk commie cocksuckers realize that they're facing demographic collapse. Can't have non-breeding white commies leeching off of the breeding white commies, when the brown and black breeding commies decide to hold themselves apart in their own communities.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 28, 2022 11:18 AM (n+4am)

66 These people in charge of the US are currently fighting a 3 front war. Two of the enemies are peers or near peers. The third is their own domestic populace.

Not only that, they've allowed the industrial infrastructure to collapse.

This should not be possible. It is impossible to conceive of. Yet, it is happening. Or maybe not. Maybe something else is going on. Idk. This is why well intentioned people begin considering Lizard Aliens and other assorted goofiness.

I'm just staying agnostic. I don't know and can't know at this point.

I will say, that there has to be a collection of ppl with a heavily heavily depressed fear response in charge and carrying out operations.

They also like breaking rules. And can hardly stop themselves from doing so.

Posted by: Thesokorus at December 28, 2022 11:18 AM (1ais2)

67 I always view the English language through a fine pair of high quality punoculars.

Posted by: Muldoon at December 28, 2022 11:19 AM (ykeLU)

68 All these great technologies will be used to control the political space, not the criminal space.
Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at December 28, 2022 11:16 AM (I9VC/)
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They already are. They used their panopticon to round up Jan 6 protesters and throw them into gulags while the FBI was running surveillance drones over Minneapolis and Kenosha for "public order" purposes but no actions from that surveillance were taken until they prosecuted Kyle Rittenhouse.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 28, 2022 11:19 AM (t0OGg)

69 "Oh, he just killed a woman? Like, who gives a fuck? Kill John Anderton to keep things quiet."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at December 28, 2022 11:17 AM (LvTSG)

"Murder is so bad we'll kill six people to prevent one from happening."

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at December 28, 2022 11:19 AM (pyVNc)

70 Not the same after Raul Julia died.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 28, 2022 11:14 AM (44ww/)

The original Charles Addams cartoons of the 'family' showed them as being odd and slightly malevolent, but not, so far as I know, supernatural. The TV series made them into cheery neighbors who were odd and had a slight touch of the supernatural.

The movies made them into supernaturally malevolent creatures who would cheerfully kill you just to see what would happen.

Do not like. And I never found Anjelica Huston attractive.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 28, 2022 11:19 AM (AW0uW)

71 If that come about it will be made illegal (like radar detectors) and security will be alerted and track you down.
Posted by: Ripley at December 28, 2022 11:13 AM (cUYo/)

True. If you wore such a thing, you would literally be a glowie. Easily spotted.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 28, 2022 11:19 AM (tkR6S)

72 But mostly the Methodists.

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And we don't want the Irish!

Posted by: Townspeople of Rock Ridge at December 28, 2022 11:19 AM (VTu1l)

73 So...maybe go long in those black glasses with the googley eyes and big mustache?

Posted by: Diogenes at December 28, 2022 11:19 AM (anj39)

74 67 I always view the English language through a fine pair of high quality punoculars.
Posted by: Muldoon at December 28, 2022 11:19 AM (ykeLU)

Yes. Yes you do.
But we like you anyway.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at December 28, 2022 11:20 AM (pyVNc)

75 If you've traveled abroad at all lately, you'll have noticed that you're now required to use facial recognition technology to enter or leave a country.

The panopticon's gone global, baby!

Posted by: naturalfake at December 28, 2022 11:20 AM (+Py1U)

76 So...maybe go long in those black glasses with the googley eyes and big mustache?
Posted by: Diogenes at December 28, 2022 11:19 AM (anj39)
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It would probably help, yeah. Add in some Vulcan ears to round it out.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 28, 2022 11:20 AM (t0OGg)

77 I never found Anjelica Huston attractive.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 28, 2022 11:19 AM (AW0uW)

Not even in Ice Pirates?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at December 28, 2022 11:21 AM (pyVNc)

78 77 Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at December 28, 2022 11:21 AM (pyVNc)

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Have you read any of the Noon Universe books?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at December 28, 2022 11:21 AM (LvTSG)

79 Since these things are happening in the blue states the red states should institute the same system and exclude any Dem-affiliated people. It would definitely speed up the division of the country.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at December 28, 2022 11:21 AM (3JfbU)

80 If you've traveled abroad at all lately, you'll have noticed that you're now required to use facial recognition technology to enter or leave a country.

The panopticon's gone global, baby!
Posted by: naturalfake at December 28, 2022 11:20 AM (+Py1U)
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It's always been global. That's sort of the point.

But what happens to the immigration/border FRS data? Does it remain in the border division? Is it shared to other government agencies? Is it sold or issued to Big Tech partners? Is it protected while in the government system? Is there a paper trail or any auditing at all? Has there ever been a breach of FRS information or other biometrics?

Damned if I know. I'd say to just take the worst possible answer to every question and then assume that it's true.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 28, 2022 11:22 AM (t0OGg)

81 So...maybe go long in those black glasses with the googley eyes and big mustache?

Posted by: Diogenes at December 28, 2022 11:19 AM (anj39)

That would probably be the only solution.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 28, 2022 11:22 AM (Angsy)

82
I remember during the Snowden affair, Putin said something to the effect of "if we'd had the surveillance capabilities the Americans now have, the USSR would still be a going concern."

Putin was wrong. An even more pervasive security state may have extended its lifespan a bit, but when you spend 80 years talking like fags whose shit is all retarded, reality *will* eventually come for your asses. And if you suppress that with a Panopticon, every day that passes builds the pressure in the cooker.

They were lucky it fell apart when it dead, instead of pushing their luck until a mob tore them all to pieces in their paneled Kremlin offices.

The people running this dystopian creepshow of a country would do well to keep that in mind.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 28, 2022 11:22 AM (oINRc)

83 During the pandemic, when masking was required to go to Walmart, I deliberately made myself as unrecognizable as possible with mask, hood, gloves, etc.

The cameras at those places are remarkably good at detecting what's going on in the parking lots. They also keep lists of people who banned for shoplifting or other infractions. It would be child's play for them to intervene when an undesirable entered the store.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 28, 2022 11:23 AM (BpYfr)

84 Eventually the prosecutor said "null pross" or something and the judge dismissed the case. I told him I wanted to keep the case alive so that I would have standing to fight the law. He said, "there is no case". And that was the end of it.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 28, 2022 11:14 AM (e+csY)

There is no law, only power.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at December 28, 2022 11:24 AM (pyVNc)

85 Haven't casinos been using this technology for a long time now to keep out card counters and other cheats?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 28, 2022 11:24 AM (BpYfr)

86 This is also, by the way, the problem with biometrics: they're irrevocable.

The first factor is "something you know." A password, for example.
The second factor is "something you have." A cell phone or other token, for example.
The third factor is "something you are." Biometrics. Fingerprints, faces, irises, etc.

But only one is immutable. I can change what I know and I can replace what I have, but what I am cannot be altered. If there's a breach of data resulting in leaked passwords or ineffective token systems, the passwords can be changed and the tokens replaced. A breach or leak of biometric data is a permanent, irreparable injury.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 28, 2022 11:24 AM (t0OGg)

87 The people running this dystopian creepshow of a country would do well to keep that in mind.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 28, 2022 11:22 AM (oINRc)

That will never happen! We're the right people to make it work.

Posted by: Dystopian Creepshow Runners at December 28, 2022 11:24 AM (Angsy)

88 79 Since these things are happening in the blue states the red states should institute the same system and exclude any Dem-affiliated people. It would definitely speed up the division of the country.
Posted by: President Select Decaf at December 28, 2022 11:21 AM (3JfbU)

I'd suggest the Red/Blue State paradigm is an illusion. One created by election fraud. It's a historical and not explained by demographics or population sorting.

Posted by: Thesokorus at December 28, 2022 11:24 AM (1ais2)

89 During the pandemic, when masking was required to go to Walmart, I deliberately made myself as unrecognizable as possible with mask, hood, gloves, etc.

***********

I went maskless and gave the finger to all the cameras. Fuck everybody up the ass

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at December 28, 2022 11:25 AM (VTu1l)

90
But what happens to the immigration/border FRS data? Does it remain in the border division? Is it shared to other government agencies? Is it sold or issued to Big Tech partners? Is it protected while in the government system? Is there a paper trail or any auditing at all? Has there ever been a breach of FRS information or other biometrics?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

Good thing that we have rigorous biometric security systems 60 miles into the desert in a kiosk alongside the Rio Grande, on the trail next to the Burger King wrapper under the cow's skull.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 28, 2022 11:25 AM (n+4am)

91 Have you read any of the Noon Universe books?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at December 28, 2022 11:21 AM (LvTSG)

No, hadn't heard of them at all until today.

Hopefully it's not related to the retardation that is Steven Universe...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at December 28, 2022 11:25 AM (pyVNc)

92 Facial RecognitionTM is used by "Clear" at airports, and is used by the US government in Global Entry systems.

The hook is that it is much faster. So you give up a bit of autonomy and privacy! Oh well....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 28, 2022 11:25 AM (XIJ/X)

93 We got a notification from the facial recognition system. You're a suspicious Republican-voting person. Now I get to beat you senseless and qualified immunity will let me get away with it.

Posted by: Cops in the not so near future at December 28, 2022 11:25 AM (s2na+)

94 How many people will be in group three? A quarter? A third? A tenth? Whatever the answer, it's too many and none of them agreed to it.

It’s always 100%, it just takes time. There must always be someone in group three, so the Underclass Window always shifts as they start to run out of villains in the current group three.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 28, 2022 11:25 AM (EXyHK)

95 ... Putin was wrong. An even more pervasive security state may have extended its lifespan a bit, but when you spend 80 years talking like fags whose shit is all retarded, reality *will* eventually come for your asses. And if you suppress that with a Panopticon, every day that passes builds the pressure in the cooker. ...
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 28, 2022 11:22 AM (oINRc)
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Like the interventions in the economy that the Fed and Treasury have been doing since Continental Illinois went tits up back in the 80s. They can decrease the frequency of economic downturns, but they increase the amplitude. Kicking the can down the road makes the blow-up larger.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 28, 2022 11:26 AM (t0OGg)

96 The truth is that despite the Stasi network was about ten percent of the E. German population, had pervasive monitoring, extensive dossiers, etc, when the wall fell, the regime collapse shortly thereafter.

Bureaucracies, including those of the surveillance state are essentially incompetent and get more so because of bureaucratic drift.

What you will get is the incompetent state where some people are hammered yet others oddly remain free in an essentially random pattern. There will be loopholes, corruption, etc. because when it comes down to it, they don't believe in their own system either.

Posted by: whig at December 28, 2022 11:26 AM (bDjBG)

97 91 No, hadn't heard of them at all until today.

Hopefully it's not related to the retardation that is Steven Universe...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at December 28, 2022 11:25 AM (pyVNc)

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Soviet Science Fiction books. One became a movie a few years ago called Hard to be a God (I love that title). I started the movie last night (I'd already watched Invictus and hadn't had a full night's sleep in over a week, so I quickly decided to just delay watching the rest).

It interested me...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at December 28, 2022 11:26 AM (LvTSG)

98 Since these things are happening in the blue states the red states should institute the same system and exclude any Dem-affiliated people

**************

thats not who we are

Posted by: Muh Principled Dickless RINOs Everywhere at December 28, 2022 11:26 AM (VTu1l)

99 You think the fixed-location "security" cameras are bad? To be sure, but the actual ruin is the ubiquitous cel-fone camera. It's everywhere, all at once, and never sleeps.

When every miniscule event of mankind is seen, recorded, logged and replayed, then any sense of privacy disappears, nuance goes up in a puff of smoke (and we all know what happens when you let the magic smoke escape!), and judgment, discretion and fair-play around the margins is no longer available to Officer Friendly.

We end up with cops as in Northern Ireland. Letter Of The Law, ENFORCED, with no grey areas allowed. Or, the cop is the one busted. And it'll be the same loss of margins for *everything* and everyone.

Won't be long till your own damn car issues you it's own citation for speeding, or other infractions. Think they won't? Ask some commercial truck drivers if their employer doesn't dock 'em penalties for GPS reported "speeding", or otherwise being "off route" even in the slightest.

I need to train the Facial Recognition cameras to view my bare ass mooning them at every opportunity.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 28, 2022 11:26 AM (e6UQI)

100 I never found Anjelica Huston attractive.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 28, 2022 11:19 AM (AW0uW)

Not even in Ice Pirates?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at December 28, 2022 11:21 AM (pyVNc)

https://tinyurl.com/27vyt7yp

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at December 28, 2022 11:27 AM (zZu0s)

101 Book thread is on Sunday. Chimp up top should have told you.

Posted by: John Candy at December 28, 2022 11:27 AM (DhOHl)

102 Soviet Science Fiction books. One became a movie a few years ago called Hard to be a God (I love that title). I started the movie last night (I'd already watched Invictus and hadn't had a full night's sleep in over a week, so I quickly decided to just delay watching the rest).

It interested me...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at December 28, 2022 11:26 AM (LvTSG)

As communist propaganda utopianism....is it better or worse than Star Trek Next Generation?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at December 28, 2022 11:27 AM (pyVNc)

103 reality *will* eventually come for your asses.

..

Wtf?

Posted by: Congress' trillion dollar deficits at December 28, 2022 11:27 AM (Tzn5T)

104 Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 28, 2022 11:23 AM (BpYfr)

A rumor going around at the time was that the facial recognition trainers were *counting* on people taking their masks off on the way to their cars and were using that to train the computers to recognize people even when masked.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 28, 2022 11:28 AM (nC+QA)

105 What you will get is the incompetent state where some people are hammered yet others oddly remain free in an essentially random pattern. There will be loopholes, corruption, etc. because when it comes down to it, they don't believe in their own system either.
Posted by: whig at December 28, 2022 11:26 AM (bDjBG)
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So "Brazil" instead of "1984" or "Brave New World"?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 28, 2022 11:28 AM (BpYfr)

106 They already are. They used their panopticon to round up Jan 6 protesters and throw them into gulags while the FBI was running surveillance drones over Minneapolis and Kenosha for "public order" purposes but no actions from that surveillance were taken until they prosecuted Kyle Rittenhouse.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 28, 2022 11:19 AM (t0OGg)

Not one lead on the person who planted the Jan 6 pipe bombs in D.C. though. *scratches head*

Posted by: Count de Monet at December 28, 2022 11:28 AM (4I/2K)

107 100 I never found Anjelica Huston attractive.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 28, 2022 11:19 AM (AW0uW)

Not even in Ice Pirates?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at December 28, 2022 11:21 AM (pyVNc)

https://tinyurl.com/27vyt7yp
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at December 28, 2022 11:27 AM (zZu0s)

I have a thing for hot, fit warrior women. Huston in Ice Pirates was that.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at December 28, 2022 11:28 AM (pyVNc)

108 What you will get is the incompetent state where some people are hammered yet others oddly remain free in an essentially random pattern. There will be loopholes, corruption, etc. because when it comes down to it, they don't believe in their own system either.
Posted by: whig at December 28, 2022 11:26 AM (bDjBG)
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Yup. The roving eye of the state, should it randomly land on you, will destroy your life. If you don't get landed on, you might not even notice much.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 28, 2022 11:28 AM (t0OGg)

109 Southwest Airlines situation looks to be another one of those strikes which no one will admit is a strike.

https://tinyurl.com/4cysr253

The last couple of times this sort of thing happened it was just folks refusing to take overtime over holidays, this time appears to be more proactive.

Posted by: Methos at December 28, 2022 11:28 AM (kOpft)

110 She has a nose that could cut a man in half.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at December 28, 2022 11:28 AM (zZu0s)

111 (and we all know what happens when you let the magic smoke escape!)

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 28, 2022 11:26 AM (e6UQI)

You take it to the garage.

Posted by: Lucas Electrics at December 28, 2022 11:28 AM (Angsy)

112 Steven Universe was fucking retarded in addition to being totally fucking ghey.

Posted by: In short it sucked at December 28, 2022 11:29 AM (s2na+)

113 102 As communist propaganda utopianism....is it better or worse than Star Trek Next Generation?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at December 28, 2022 11:27 AM (pyVNc)

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After 22 minutes? Can't quite say...

But, at least in what I've read about the books, they do exist in a universe where Earth went full communist, resources are beyond abundant, and it focuses on travelers throughout the stars who meet new life and new life forms.

So, yeah...Soviet Star Trek.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at December 28, 2022 11:29 AM (LvTSG)

114 And… Happy New Year a little early! I posted shortly after the Texas MoMe about the 1950 calendar that Snailracer gave me.

It’s a near-perfect fit for 2023, so if you want a 2023 calendar of vintage recipes, I’ve made it available as a PDF for printing. (And another PDF for historical interest.)

Link in nic.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 28, 2022 11:29 AM (EXyHK)

115
Obligatory Judas Priest

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMVV_HsHcX0

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 28, 2022 11:29 AM (n+4am)

116 I had to look up several words from this topic today. To the person who wrote "taint licking," I'm sending a cop to your house.

Posted by: Ju at December 28, 2022 11:29 AM (aTmM/)

117 I promised myself to cut down, but good lord I wish I were blind drunk right now.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 28, 2022 11:30 AM (AW0uW)

118 Obligatory Judas Priest

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMVV_HsHcX0
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 28, 2022 11:29 AM (n+4am)
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"Electric Eye" kicks ass

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 28, 2022 11:30 AM (t0OGg)

119 Not even in Ice Pirates?

I hope so. I have that queued up right now on the DVR! Never seen it. Looks horribly good.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 28, 2022 11:30 AM (EXyHK)

120 The Southern 't'aint lookin' is used often by siblings taking a bath together.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at December 28, 2022 11:31 AM (zZu0s)

121 Can't recall where I read this, but shopping malls are said to be using facial recognition and mapping, so they can see where customers browse and/or buy, and then the mall operator tries to sell the data to retail establishments in the mall.

Very weird stuff.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 28, 2022 11:31 AM (elz1b)

122 Space Herpes!

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at December 28, 2022 11:31 AM (zZu0s)

123 card counters and other cheats?

I don't think card counters are cheats. They just beat the casinos at their own game. The mob hates that.

Posted by: free tibet at December 28, 2022 11:31 AM (CKoIq)

124 Over 100 so OT, and a bit funny.
My attention was just grabbed by a commercial pickup truck kind of flying down my street. The lettering on the side and back was a big EV, and in smaller print, Emergency Charging Service.
It was the sound that caught my attention, clearly an efficient and productive internal combustion.

Posted by: From about that time at December 28, 2022 11:31 AM (4780s)

125 Once something starts being used in a negative fashion refusing to reply in the same way simply disadvantages you, I'm looking at you GOPe. The only option is to up the ante and use the same against the perpetrators.

That's why I am not even remotely fussed about the Santos guy's invented life history. Everything the Dems do is a lie so it's only fair to use their tactics against them.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at December 28, 2022 11:32 AM (3JfbU)

126 I have a thing for hot, fit warrior women. Huston in Ice Pirates was that.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at December 28, 2022 11:28 AM (pyVNc)

"Alexa, are there any schmoes in this thread?"

"Yes, hello, I found one."

I cannot speak because... Kianna Tom. I have since repented, of course. But the images are still there in my head.

Posted by: Thesokorus at December 28, 2022 11:32 AM (1ais2)

127 I hope so. I have that queued up right now on the DVR! Never seen it. Looks horribly good.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 28, 2022 11:30 AM (EXyHK)

It's very silly, but fun. Don't worry too much about the Space Herpes. I hear they're not that serious.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at December 28, 2022 11:32 AM (pyVNc)

128 Me on a call to my doctor, "Doc it's only 10:30 but I want a drink." Doc, "what are you doing right now?" Me, "reading the news". Doc, "have two."

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at December 28, 2022 11:32 AM (oWBc3)

129 And BTW some police departments are already using predictive analytics to go harass people who haven't done anything wrong because an algorithm spat back that they're six degrees separated from someone who stole some gas at Sunoco. So we're already entering an era of pre-crime.

Posted by: This dystopia is the fucking WORST at December 28, 2022 11:32 AM (s2na+)

130 For those confident that the bill will come due, i want to remind them the CCP has been in charge for nearly 90 years with no signs of slowing. They may have perfected totalitarian control and all the other rulers are admiring them.

Posted by: squid_hunt at December 28, 2022 11:32 AM (qZ9Nw)

131 My attention was just grabbed by a commercial pickup truck kind of flying down my street. The lettering on the side and back was a big EV, and in smaller print, Emergency Charging Service.
It was the sound that caught my attention, clearly an efficient and productive internal combustion.
Posted by: From about that time at December 28, 2022 11:31 AM (4780s)
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Heh. I imagine plenty of diesel is burned on that transaction, at all phases...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 28, 2022 11:32 AM (t0OGg)

132 131 Heh. I imagine plenty of diesel is burned on that transaction, at all phases...
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 28, 2022 11:32 AM (t0OGg)

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There's coal in there somewhere...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at December 28, 2022 11:33 AM (LvTSG)

133 I cannot speak because... Kianna Tom. I have since repented, of course. But the images are still there in my head.

Posted by: Thesokorus at December 28, 2022 11:32 AM (1ais2)

Ah, Body Shaping. That was a wonderful show. Good for the heart rate.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at December 28, 2022 11:33 AM (pyVNc)

134 I have a thing for hot, fit warrior women. Huston in Ice Pirates was that.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at December 28, 2022 11:28 AM (pyVNc)

The Mythra pimp robot scene was epic in that movie

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at December 28, 2022 11:33 AM (OgrpQ)

135 There's coal in there somewhere...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at December 28, 2022 11:33 AM (LvTSG)
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The diesel was squeezed out of coal in a gassification plant for maximum inefficiency!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 28, 2022 11:34 AM (t0OGg)

136 The last couple of times this sort of thing happened it was just folks refusing to take overtime over holidays, this time appears to be more proactive.
Posted by: Methos at December 28, 2022 11:28 AM (kOpft)

Has Southwest rehired any of the pilots they let go for refusing the clot shot? Or did they not do that?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 28, 2022 11:34 AM (tkR6S)

137 "Alexa, are there any schmoes in this thread?"

"Yes, hello, I found one."

I cannot speak because... Kianna Tom. I have since repented, of course. But the images are still there in my head.

Posted by: Thesokorus at December 28, 2022 11:32 AM (1ais2)

No, schmoes are guys with a fetish for bodybuilder chicks. Like the roided up ones who could assrape you with their testosterone-enlarged clitori. Big difference between that and having a thing for Red Sonja.

Posted by: Definitions are important at December 28, 2022 11:35 AM (s2na+)

138 136 Has Southwest rehired any of the pilots they let go for refusing the clot shot? Or did they not do that?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 28, 2022 11:34 AM (tkR6S)

========

I've heard through the grapevine that the SW software deleted all of the flight attendant information from every flight.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at December 28, 2022 11:35 AM (LvTSG)

139 So...maybe go long in those black glasses with the googley eyes and big mustache?

Posted by: Diogenes

Burqas for all women. That may actually have the reverse affect and face coverings will be outlawed.

>Joe Mannix, this post that sent chills through me as a private citizen, especially this.
The real problem is the proliferation of such technology, its widespread application, the questions over where the matches came from, how consent is handled and what it implies about the future.

Posted by: old chick at December 28, 2022 11:36 AM (sOete)

140 I have a thing for hot, fit warrior women. Huston in Ice Pirates was that.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at December 28, 2022 11:28 AM (pyVNc)

Hey sailor. Wanna ride this tanker truck with me?

Posted by: Warrior Woman, The Road Warrior at December 28, 2022 11:36 AM (4I/2K)

141 Over the weekend, I allowed an update to my laptop that downloaded Windows 11. The first thing it did was start setting up facial recognition or fingerprint to unlock my laptop from here on out. I refused either option, but a popup said it couldn't access the camera.

What.the.hell.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at December 28, 2022 11:36 AM (/+bwe)

142 Just follow the CCP:
https://tinyurl.com/yz2ru3ym
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at December 28, 2022 11:13 AM (IOu4z)
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I just love that they call it China's universal real-time surveillance system "Skynet" and that the PR dude giving the interview provides the TV show "Black Mirror" as their vision for the future.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 28, 2022 11:37 AM (t0OGg)

143 No, schmoes are guys with a fetish for bodybuilder chicks. Like the roided up ones who could assrape you with their testosterone-enlarged clitori. Big difference between that and having a thing for Red Sonja.
Posted by: Definitions are important at December 28, 2022 11:35 AM (s2na+)

First time ever hearing that word.

*hiding She Hulk poster and comics*

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at December 28, 2022 11:37 AM (pyVNc)

144 I've heard through the grapevine that the SW software deleted all of the flight attendant information from every flight.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at December 28, 2022 11:35 AM (LvTSG)

This sounds more like malicious action by a disgruntled employee in IT- not 'software'. Unless you count people as software or they are using an AI (a true AI.)

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at December 28, 2022 11:37 AM (zZu0s)

145 And BTW some police departments are already using predictive analytics to go harass people who haven't done anything wrong

*****************

There's some helpful lawyers on YouTube that tell you what to do when the cops do this, specifically when it's the ATF who visit your house because you legally bought one gun "too many".

First, the feds fucking lie about everything because they are horse fuckers who fuck horses.

Second, when they ask to see your guns just so they can "verify the records" you have the right to tell them to fuck off (nicely)

Third, they have no legal right to do fuck all when doing this kind of bullshit, so they rely on your cooperation to try to gain entry at which point they will sniff around for anything that even remotely looks like "probable cause"

We are long past the days where we accept the benefit of the doubt and try to be cooperative with the police. They are not your friend, they are not there to protect you

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at December 28, 2022 11:38 AM (VTu1l)

146 China has had 700 year dynasties in its past. Nothing survives entropy.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at December 28, 2022 11:38 AM (oWBc3)

147 >The Great Sorting is underway and you will fall into one of three groups. You'll be Ruling Class (no, you probably won't) and above the law, you'll be a normal subject and your life will proceed along as usual in a totalitarian system or you'll be a wrongthinker and forced to the margins, spending more and getting less and falling further and further behind as you're squeezed out of society.

I saw some posting a few months ago that claimed that the social credit system you described is already in testing now, and that it will be coupled with a CBDC. Screenshots of the backend were provided, with various notable people's accounts shown, but that doesn't mean much, as that's super easy to make. It's most likely a fake but the sad thing is that it's quite plausible...hell it probably does really exist in some form.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at December 28, 2022 11:38 AM (0D0Oa)

148 So the regime is going to have Commissar Bootygig look into the airline travel mess. Who could be better qualified than the govt to investigate things going wrong? They are going to get to the bottom of it and hold people accountable!

I suspect wreckers and anti-regime saboteurs are to blame.

Posted by: Ripley at December 28, 2022 11:38 AM (cUYo/)

149 Over the weekend, I allowed an update to my laptop that downloaded Windows 11. The first thing it did was start setting up facial recognition or fingerprint to unlock my laptop from here on out. I refused either option, but a popup said it couldn't access the camera.

What.the.hell.
Posted by: NaughtyPine at December 28, 2022 11:36 AM (/+bwe)
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Windows 10 is my last hurrah. I don't like Linux on the desktop, but that's where I'll be in the future. Windows 11 is *way* creepier than Windows 10 (which was already pretty creepy) and there is no way to opt out of their incredibly deep and involved data mining and personal identification systems.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 28, 2022 11:38 AM (t0OGg)

150 Hey sailor. Wanna ride this tanker truck with me?
Posted by: Warrior Woman, The Road Warrior at December 28, 2022 11:36 AM (4I/2K)

1982 era Virgina Hey? Yes. Yes, I do. Shiny and chrome forever to Valhalla.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at December 28, 2022 11:39 AM (pyVNc)

151 I unthinkingly use facial recognition on my phone for convenience. Never thought about Apple selling my image to other big tech and govt…. Thanks, Joe. Now I KNOW they’re doing it…. I must be naive not having even thought about the possibility previously

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 28, 2022 11:39 AM (53uP2)

152 "Just follow the CCP"

There's a guy on that thread who says the CCP is prioritizing safety over politics. I don't understand how people so stupid can function.

Posted by: squid_hunt at December 28, 2022 11:40 AM (qZ9Nw)

153 Windows 10 is my last hurrah. I don't like Linux on the desktop, but that's where I'll be in the future. Windows 11 is *way* creepier than Windows 10 (which was already pretty creepy) and there is no way to opt out of their incredibly deep and involved data mining and personal identification systems.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 28, 2022 11:38 AM (t0OGg)

Same. I still have XP and Win 7 on a few old laptops. I'm not updating past Win 10. I'll go Mac first.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at December 28, 2022 11:40 AM (pyVNc)

154 The police department in town is putting up license plate cameras at several intersections. Every vehicle that passes through will be tagged.

No valid reason has been given other than "why not?"

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 28, 2022 11:40 AM (Q4IgG)

155 Ron Pearlman was a skinny man in Ice Pirates.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 28, 2022 11:40 AM (44ww/)

156 So the regime is going to have Commissar Bootygig look into the airline travel mess. Who could be better qualified than the govt to investigate things going wrong? They are going to get to the bottom of it and hold people accountable!

I suspect wreckers and anti-regime saboteurs are to blame.
Posted by: Ripley at December 28, 2022 11:38 AM (cUYo/)

When it comes to getting to bottoms, Bootygig is your man.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 28, 2022 11:40 AM (tkR6S)

157 For those confident that the bill will come due, i want to remind them the CCP has been in charge for nearly 90 years with no signs of slowing. They may have perfected totalitarian control and all the other rulers are admiring them

**************

Every empire falls, some take longer than others

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at December 28, 2022 11:40 AM (VTu1l)

158 You'll be Ruling Class (no, you probably won't) and above the law
-----------------------

What'd I do?

*kicks rock*

Posted by: olddog in mo at December 28, 2022 11:41 AM (ViCCR)

159 I unthinkingly use facial recognition on my phone for convenience. Never thought about Apple selling my image to other big tech and govt…. Thanks, Joe. Now I KNOW they’re doing it…. I must be naive not having even thought about the possibility previously
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 28, 2022 11:39 AM (53uP2)
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I *don't* know that they're doing it. I also don't know that they're not doing it.

Do they sell it? Do they give it away? Did they lose it (e.g., through a breach)? I have no idea. Everyone is so untrustworthy, though, that I *assume* that the answer to any or all of those questions is "yes."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 28, 2022 11:41 AM (t0OGg)

160 1982 era Virgina Hey? Yes. Yes, I do. Shiny and chrome forever to Valhalla.

Oh, yes. A thousand times, yes.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 28, 2022 11:41 AM (EXyHK)

161 Windows 10 is my last hurrah. I don't like Linux on the desktop, but that's where I'll be in the future. Windows 11 is *way* creepier than Windows 10 (which was already pretty creepy) and there is no way to opt out of their incredibly deep and involved data mining and personal identification systems.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 28, 2022 11:38 AM (t0OGg)

I have Linux Mint 20 on this desktop, and it works fine for me. I have heard there are some issues with Mint 21, named Vera, so I will stick with this one for now.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 28, 2022 11:43 AM (tkR6S)

162 "Every empire falls, some take longer than others"

Point being we almost surely won't be around to see it, one way or another.

Posted by: squid_hunt at December 28, 2022 11:43 AM (qZ9Nw)

163
When Russia invaded Ukraine (and I was still talking with leftist sister) she was so excited that someone was using facial recognition software to identify dead Russians and troll their Facebook page.

I don't know who done it or how, but it sure made her happy.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 28, 2022 11:43 AM (enJYY)

164 hiya

Posted by: JT at December 28, 2022 11:43 AM (T4tVD)

165 I have a thing for hot, fit warrior women.

There are lots of warrior women in The Witcher: Blood Origin; a cheap attempt to cash in on The Witcher. Hotness doesn't enter into it, but they routinely kick the backsides of trained male warriors twice their size.

The Critical Drinker was not kind to it, nor was Rotten Tomatoes.

https://tinyurl.com/4wztte3n

One wonders if HWood will finally realize they can't keep making the same, money-losing woke crap. Probably not.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 28, 2022 11:43 AM (eOEVl)

166
Gosh, no, I'm not a wrongthinker! must have been a hacker putting my fingerprints all over that AOS website.

Just like what happened to Noble winning genius scientist Paul Krugman a couple years ago!

Posted by: Auspex at December 28, 2022 11:43 AM (j4U/Z)

167 The police department in town is putting up license plate cameras at several intersections. Every vehicle that passes through will be tagged.

No valid reason has been given other than "why not?"

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 28, 2022 11:40 AM

Texas passed a law that forbids those cameras.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 28, 2022 11:44 AM (uNylN)

168 1982 era Virgina Hey? Yes. Yes, I do. Shiny and chrome forever to Valhalla.

Even 1999 Farscape era Virginia Hey. In her blue alien makeup and everything.

Posted by: You just know Capt. Kirk would've tapped that at December 28, 2022 11:44 AM (s2na+)

169 I have Linux Mint 20 on this desktop, and it works fine for me. I have heard there are some issues with Mint 21, named Vera, so I will stick with this one for now.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 28, 2022 11:43 AM (tkR6S)
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Linux on the desktop (and I *use* it in that capacity, on a couple of machines including one machine I use regularly) has limitations and inconveniences I truly dislike. I will put up with the universally if the alternative is moving to Windows 11.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 28, 2022 11:44 AM (t0OGg)

170 Windows 10 is my last hurrah. I don't like Linux on the desktop, but that's where I'll be in the future. Windows 11 is *way* creepier than Windows 10 (which was already pretty creepy) and there is no way to opt out of their incredibly deep and involved data mining and personal identification systems.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 28, 2022 11:38 AM (t0OGg)

Just use a computer without the ability to run Win11?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 28, 2022 11:44 AM (Angsy)

171 No, schmoes are guys with a fetish for bodybuilder chicks. Like the roided up ones who could assrape you with their testosterone-enlarged clitori. Big difference between that and having a thing for Red Sonja.
Posted by: Definitions are important at December 28, 2022 11:35 AM (s2na+)

"Hi, Alexa, get me an example of "spurious precision", thanks."

"I found one."

Posted by: Thesokorus at December 28, 2022 11:44 AM (1ais2)

172 Gosh, no, I'm not a wrongthinker! must have been a hacker putting my fingerprints all over that AOS website.

Just like what happened to Noble winning genius scientist Paul Krugman a couple years ago!
Posted by: Auspex at December 28, 2022 11:43 AM (j4U/Z)

It happens a lot!

Posted by: Anthony Weiner at December 28, 2022 11:45 AM (4I/2K)

173 The Republican party is invited to eat shit from my ass.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at December 28, 2022 11:45 AM (213Ua)

174 I have a thing for hot, fit warrior women. Huston in Ice Pirates was that.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at December 28, 2022 11:28 AM (pyVNc)

Never saw the movie, so I can't comment on Huston there. I did not like her in The Addams Family.

Anyway, I prefer my women to be soft, perfumed and yielding. Or, at the very least, willing to buy drinks.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 28, 2022 11:45 AM (AW0uW)

175 171 "Hi, Alexa, get me an example of "spurious precision", thanks."

"I found one."
Posted by: Thesokorus at December 28, 2022 11:44 AM (1ais2)

==========

"Why won't this guy buy anything through Alexa?!"
-Jeff Bezos

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at December 28, 2022 11:45 AM (LvTSG)

176 One wonders if HWood will finally realize they can't keep making the same, money-losing woke crap. Probably not.

Oh, and of course, the good guys are all diversity, and the bad guys are all white males. And every community looks like a Bennetton ad.

It was literally filmed in Iceland. Lotta diversity there.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 28, 2022 11:45 AM (eOEVl)

177 Point being we almost surely won't be around to see it, one way or another.

*****************

The thing that makes me a "little" hopeful is that China's economy is propped up by an imaginary real estate market for which entire cities have been built with not one single fucking occupant in them. That can't last, and when it all comes crashing down, it's going to be rather unpleasant

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at December 28, 2022 11:46 AM (VTu1l)

178 Windows 10 is my last hurrah. I don't like Linux on the desktop, but that's where I'll be in the future. Windows 11 is *way* creepier than Windows 10 (which was already pretty creepy) and there is no way to opt out of their incredibly deep and involved data mining and personal identification systems.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 28, 2022 11:38 AM

Win10 wrecked my previous laptop - made it shut down for no apparent reason. I bought a new laptop, started saving files from the old one, and suddenly there was an update that "fixed" my old laptop.

The scary thing about this update is that I tried to go back to a previous update but the option was "no longer available." Instead, it recommended resetting the laptop and reinstalling software.

I was ranting to my family about it in real time.

The only reason that I was able to restore my previous version is that when I turned it on again, a diagnostic alert said something was wrong with my laptop and the option was to delete Win11 update.

I turned off updates until February. This reminds me of Win10 all over again.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at December 28, 2022 11:47 AM (/+bwe)

179
*flails hands all gay-like*

*starts shrieking*

Round up all these Morons! We gave you a Panopticon! USE IT!!!11!1

*blows load*

Posted by: Lindsey Graham at December 28, 2022 11:47 AM (oINRc)

180 My biggest resentment is how this has all turned out. The cyberpunk dystopia I was promised had a *lot* more hot chicks dressed in tight leather in daily life and the parties were *way* cooler.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 28, 2022 11:47 AM (t0OGg)

181 Has anyone used the "lens" feature that's part of Google photos? You can have it search the Internet for similar photos or matches of your photo. It's not 100 percent, but I wonder how it'd do with people's faces.

I'm not willing to try it with my face, but... there's a database being built of all the photos it has stored.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 28, 2022 11:47 AM (Q4IgG)

182 "It is unlikely that either of the people who were kicked out (or anyone else attending an event at an MSG facility) consented to facial recognition activities. I certainly haven't. It may be buried in the fine print somewhere on the ticket or venue policies, but that is inadequate for something as important as consenting to participation in facial recognition systems, especially as they spread. Nobody provides affirmative consent for this, yet here we are."

MSG's argument could be, "there is a sign"

tinyurl.com/a3m7cz6u

Posted by: hurricane567@gmail.com at December 28, 2022 11:48 AM (4Tzka)

183 "Hi, Alexa, get me an example of "spurious precision", thanks."

"I found one."
Posted by: Thesokorus at December 28, 2022 11:44 AM (1ais2)

"Hi Alexa, get me an example of a stupid asshole who can't stand being wrong."

"I found one."

Posted by: Two can play the Alexa game at December 28, 2022 11:48 AM (s2na+)

184 For those of you who still adhere to the Krautish pope, his days are numbered. He can't breathe, and is being attended to by his constant male companion.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 28, 2022 11:48 AM (e+csY)

185 I unthinkingly use facial recognition on my phone for convenience. Never thought about Apple selling my image to other big tech and govt…. Thanks, Joe. Now I KNOW they’re doing it…. I must be naive not having even thought about the possibility previously
Posted by: LinusVanPelt

I have a concealed handgun license. My prints and picture are in numerous databases.

Posted by: rickb223 Gone Galt at December 28, 2022 11:48 AM (txGor)

186 So "Brazil" instead of "1984" or "Brave New World"?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel

Yes, bureaucracies are bureaucracies whether in a republic, dictatorship, etc. Ours is a splintered security state and so each agency will act in its own interest, each individual in that agency will act in their own interests, and so on.

Agencies, even in the Soviet Union, are made up of people and people do not behave as robots.

Posted by: whig at December 28, 2022 11:48 AM (bDjBG)

187 China is in such insanely bad shape people have been paying mortgages for three years and they haven't even started construction so they all started defaulting.

Posted by: squid_hunt at December 28, 2022 11:48 AM (qZ9Nw)

188 From Insty:

RATIONIERUNG: Bundle Up, Germany. 2024 Could be a Long Winter. “The cryptically-named Federal Network Agency has announced plans to empower German power grid operators to remotely limit home heat pumps and EV chargers. And this can be done without the customer’s permission. And lest German citizens think that they have the spring, summer, and fall to make adjustments, this policy is set to take effect next month.”

Posted by: Archimedes at December 28, 2022 11:48 AM (eOEVl)

189 I don't know who done it or how, but it sure made her happy.

*************

I miss the days when the lefty cunts couldnt taint lick Russia's ass hard enough. At least then the world made sense

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at December 28, 2022 11:48 AM (VTu1l)

190 168 1982 era Virgina Hey? Yes. Yes, I do. Shiny and chrome forever to Valhalla.

Even 1999 Farscape era Virginia Hey. In her blue alien makeup and everything.
Posted by: You just know Capt. Kirk would've tapped that at December 28, 2022 11:44 AM (s2na+)

Oh God, yes. Zahn was lovely, inside and out. Sadly they didn't develop her character well and I think Virgina also had problems with the makeup, IIRC, so she got basically written out.

Still had Aeyrn Sun though...who is also...relevant to my interests....

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at December 28, 2022 11:49 AM (pyVNc)

191 I unthinkingly use facial recognition on my phone for convenience. Never thought about Apple selling my image to other big tech and govt…. Thanks, Joe. Now I KNOW they’re doing it…. I must be naive not having even thought about the possibility previously

Apple aren't doing that. The face unlock on iPhones exists entirely in a separate system inside the phone - the main processor can only ask it if it sees a matching face, it has no way to access the actual data.

Some Android phones are that secure, but many aren't. (Samsung got dinged for writing your fingerprints to /etc with world-readable permissions).

Posted by: Ian S. at December 28, 2022 11:49 AM (zm+d5)

192 MSG's argument could be, "there is a sign"

tinyurl.com/a3m7cz6u
Posted by: hurricane567@gmail.com at December 28, 2022 11:48 AM (4Tzka)
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Sure. That's a core problem. Anything involving biometrics needs to require affirmative consent. It must be opt-in, not opt-out (or no-opt at all).

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 28, 2022 11:49 AM (t0OGg)

193 The police department in town is putting up license plate cameras at several intersections. Every vehicle that passes through will be tagged.

No valid reason has been given other than "why not?"
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 28, 2022 11:40 AM (Q4IgG)
***

I was chatting with a woman once who worked at the operations center for one company that supplies the cameras (there are several). She told me that maybe one in 10 photos results in a citation. Lots of reasons why, but mostly just a shitty photo. This was a few years ago so the technology may be better.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 28, 2022 11:49 AM (anj39)

194
Facebook got in trouble for it in one state but you could 'tag' a picture with the names of people. If you later came across a picture of the same person and moved your cursor over their image it would tell you their name - despite the second picture being not tagged.

Creepy shit going on as they push the envelope of privacy off the cliff.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 28, 2022 11:50 AM (enJYY)

195 RATIONIERUNG: Bundle Up, Germany. 2024 Could be a Long Winter. “The cryptically-named Federal Network Agency has announced plans to empower German power grid operators to remotely limit home heat pumps and EV chargers. And this can be done without the customer’s permission. And lest German citizens think that they have the spring, summer, and fall to make adjustments, this policy is set to take effect next month.”
Posted by: Archimedes at December 28, 2022 11:48 AM (eOEVl)
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The only good answer to any offer of "smart" shit is, "no." Smart thermostats? Smart meters? Smart lighting? Etc?

No. Get out of my house.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 28, 2022 11:50 AM (t0OGg)

196 184 may God have mercy on his soul. Have a feeling he will need it.

Posted by: Piper at December 28, 2022 11:50 AM (ZdaMQ)

197 German power grid operators to remotely limit home heat pumps and EV chargers. And this can be done without the customer’s permission.

**************

tell me the germans have become nazis again without telling me the germans have become nazis again

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at December 28, 2022 11:51 AM (VTu1l)

198 Facebook got in trouble for it in one state but you could 'tag' a picture with the names of people. If you later came across a picture of the same person and moved your cursor over their image it would tell you their name - despite the second picture being not tagged.

That's standard on FB, Instagram, and Twitter at least. It's one of the features most beloved of tweenage girls.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 28, 2022 11:51 AM (zm+d5)

199 Facebook got in trouble for it in one state but you could 'tag' a picture with the names of people. If you later came across a picture of the same person and moved your cursor over their image it would tell you their name - despite the second picture being not tagged.

Creepy shit going on as they push the envelope of privacy off the cliff.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 28, 2022 11:50 AM (enJYY)
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Another reason that affirmative consent needs to be required. You could tag people that weren't even on Facebook. I was out with some friends and one of them took a picture and tagged me in it. I saw him do it, and laced into him over it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 28, 2022 11:51 AM (t0OGg)

200 Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 28, 2022 11:43 AM (enJYY)

That's pretty twisted. I guess nothing has changed for leftists since they were calling Inspector's mom (in North Dakota!) to gloat that her oldest son had been killed in Vietnam by a communist draftee mechanic who had sabotaged the helicopter he was in. Satisfaction that an enemy is dead is normal. Taunting their families is perverse, especially when it's one's own countryman.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 28, 2022 11:51 AM (nC+QA)

201 The only reason that I was able to restore my previous version is that when I turned it on again, a diagnostic alert said something was wrong with my laptop and the option was to delete Win11 update.

I turned off updates until February. This reminds me of Win10 all over again.
Posted by: NaughtyPine at December 28, 2022 11:47 AM (/+bwe)

The last Windows OS that I actually installed is Win 7 on my work/home desktop, and that was because I had to use work software that only ran under Win 7. And that install was a long chore. Being retired now, there is no need for me to use Windows anymore. I will keep the Win 7 and XP hard drives around, just for sake of records, but I should do a new install on Mint on my home PC.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 28, 2022 11:52 AM (tkR6S)

202 "Hey Alexa, how much does it cost to buy a 1990's model Kianna Tom?"

"Also, is this yellow fever?"

"I'm sorry. There are currently no 1990's Kianna Toms for sale."

"And yes. Yes it is."

Posted by: Thesokorus at December 28, 2022 11:52 AM (1ais2)

203 He can't breathe, and is being attended to by his constant male companion.

***********

Buttigieg is there?

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at December 28, 2022 11:53 AM (VTu1l)

204 Am I the only one who confuses Brian Keith with Brian Dennehy?

Posted by: Abe Vigoda at December 28, 2022 11:53 AM (flINI)

205 I've been using Windows OS since 3.1. After what Windows 11 did with the forced ("You have no other choice but to upgrade.") upgrade, I'm giving serious thought to changing over to Linux. As soon as I figure out how to my development work can be done on Linux, I'm going to make the change.

Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie at December 28, 2022 11:53 AM (xxG/v)

206 Just use a computer without the ability to run Win11?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 28, 2022 11:44 AM

Microsoft insists it knows better than you. Win10 set up times to download on my old, old laptop. Every single time I missed the window (pun!) to stop it, I had to use safety mode and then reset it.

My employer decided Google is the best, so we've got to use it for all email and documents. School kids are so screwed as a result. It's not just gmail; if they forget to log out of Google, their photos automatically upload to Google, too.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at December 28, 2022 11:53 AM (/+bwe)

207 I have a concealed handgun license. My prints and picture are in numerous databases.
Posted by: rickb223 Gone Galt at December 28, 2022 11:48 AM (txGor)

*nods*

I abandoned all ideas of privacy long ago. But disable face and fingerprint unlocks on all devices. No point in making it easier on the bad guys.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at December 28, 2022 11:53 AM (pyVNc)

208 I've been play8ng a lot of NukeMap lately.
If I could do code, I'd write an app that gave credit for major events being included in the blast radius.

*dons lab coat*
*laughs maniacally*

Posted by: Diogenes at December 28, 2022 11:54 AM (anj39)

209 91 Hopefully it's not related to the retardation that is Steven Universe...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at December 28, 2022 11:25 AM (pyVNc)

Why would you drag that Evil into a Smart Military Blog?

Posted by: XTC at December 28, 2022 11:54 AM (UnA8+)

210 Note: Kiana Tom is Hawiian. Also 56. Also looking DAMN good for 56. Also newly single.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at December 28, 2022 11:55 AM (pyVNc)

211 This busty bikini blonde isn't worried about the dystopia, but she should be:
https://is.gd/V9qZPW

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 28, 2022 11:55 AM (t0OGg)

212
We are long past the days where we accept the benefit of the doubt and try to be cooperative with the police. They are not your friend, they are not there to protect you
Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort

Call the LOCAL cops via 911 and tell them that someone's there claiming to be BATF and trying to gain access to your home (which is 100% true, by the way). Delay the Fed JBTs until the local Meal Team Six arrives, let the two agencies argue on the sidewalk.

Local cops generally don't like snooty Fed agencies operating on their turf without notification, and the Feds won't lower themselves to asking permission from a bunch of local yokel donut-smackers.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 28, 2022 11:56 AM (n+4am)

213 157 For those confident that the bill will come due, i want to remind them the CCP has been in charge for nearly 90 years with no signs of slowing. They may have perfected totalitarian control and all the other rulers are admiring them
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They haven't--Communist revolution was in 1949 so it has not been 90 years. It is about 70+ years. Mexico's one party state outlived the Soviet Union albeit by only a few years.

If you think that control is 'perfected', it is mainly because you view China from a distance. VPNs are widely used, news leaks out, and Xi has made himself emperor in effect which makes everything stick to him. Plus there is always the succession problem.

Just like utopia, perfection in a human system is a contradiction in terms.

Posted by: whig at December 28, 2022 11:56 AM (bDjBG)

214 The last Windows OS that I actually installed is Win 7 on my work/home desktop

************

I needed Windows for work and was actually excited to learn Win10 in the beginning since I hadn't used Windows since Win7, so I wanted to catch up and learn all the things.

5 minutes of using it was enough to make me decide Mount Rainier needs to erupt already and take out Microsoft HQ

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at December 28, 2022 11:57 AM (VTu1l)

215
I've been running a linux variant (Ubuntu) for about 10 years now without a care in the world. No drama, rock solid.

There was a time Windows worked for me, until it became too much work, and too undependable. I like dependable. I have about 10 hard drives decaying in a bucket of water outside my house. Windows killed almost everyone of them.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 28, 2022 11:57 AM (enJYY)

216 183 "Hi, Alexa, get me an example of "spurious precision", thanks."

"I found one."
Posted by: Thesokorus at December 28, 2022 11:44 AM (1ais2)

"Hi Alexa, get me an example of a stupid asshole who can't stand being wrong."

"I found one."
Posted by: Two can play the Alexa game at December 28, 2022 11:48 AM (s2na+)

Thanks man.

Posted by: Thesokorus at December 28, 2022 11:57 AM (1ais2)

217 Doesn't image taking equipment, such as Ring; many/most of our cellphones; turnpike toll chutes; most security cameras in airports, train stations, entries into amusement parks, etc. place images into a Cloud for at least some period of time? (When neighbors use a Ring system to protect property, the local police do ask for access if something arises that needs investigation.)

There's no way facial recognition is not being widely used & why some people will continue to try to conceal their identity with those convenient C19 masks.

"because of their affiliation with a firm that is suing Madison Square Garden..." Therefore, such restrictions could also be applied to subcontractors and clients, too, and that's all the more troublesome. Doxing. Take someone job, ruin their life.

A lot of 'us' will become like the Uyghurs when they're ready.

Posted by: Lola at December 28, 2022 11:57 AM (p39Z2)

218
The Critical Drinker was not kind to it, nor was Rotten Tomatoes.

https://tinyurl.com/4wztte3n

One wonders if HWood will finally realize they can't keep making the same, money-losing woke crap. Probably not.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 28, 2022 11:43 AM (eOEVl)

Instead, they will push to have guys like him silenced so the sheep will continue to blindly give money to their unwatchable shit and keep them in their high dollar lifestyles, burning all the carbon they desire while eating kobe beef and drinking whiskey.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 28, 2022 11:57 AM (Zz0t1)

219 So "Brazil" instead of "1984" or "Brave New World"?

At this point I would welcome R.U.R.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 28, 2022 11:57 AM (AW0uW)

220 Zelenskyy, BlackRock CEO Fink agree to coordinate Ukraine investment

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Has anyone even seen much footage of the Ukraine war? Both Gulf wars had non-stop footage. Ukraine has just had a trickle.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 28, 2022 11:58 AM (Y5qcH)

221
I re-watched Hard Target last night. That movie still kicks ass. Wilford Brimley as the drunk old Cajun coot was a highlight.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 28, 2022 11:58 AM (oINRc)

222 219 So "Brazil" instead of "1984" or "Brave New World"?

At this point I would welcome R.U.R.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 28, 2022 11:57 AM (AW0uW)

"Zardoz". "The Penis is Evil".

Posted by: XTC at December 28, 2022 11:58 AM (UnA8+)

223 I received a moving violation ticket in the mail from a community notorious for these camera tickets. In the picture it looked like my car (but I wasn't there on that day) but the license plate in the photo was for my other car with the same make (Toyota). I think they didn't get a good pic of the plate and just did a search of plates associated with the make/model/color and came up with my name, but were sloppy and used the info for the other Toyota to do the photoshopped plate. I called the office and the 'official' on the other end quickly cancelled the ticket.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 28, 2022 11:59 AM (fs1hN)

224 ---------------------

Has anyone even seen much footage of the Ukraine war? Both Gulf wars had non-stop footage. Ukraine has just had a trickle.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 28, 2022 11:58 AM (Y5qcH)

Whatever happened to that fat black wannabe warrior journalist that went to fight for the brave and noble Ukranians?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 28, 2022 11:59 AM (Zz0t1)

225 The last Windows OS that I actually installed is Win 7 on my work/home desktop
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C:/DOS
C:/DOS Run
Run DOS Run!!!

Bwahahahaha!!!! I crack myself up!

Posted by: Diogenes at December 28, 2022 11:59 AM (anj39)

226 My boy spawn and his lady gave me a shiatsu foot massager for Christmas. Its supposed to help to the plantar fasciitis in my left foot. Now that I have used it a few times I can report. It works! And also...

IT'S A FUCKING MEDIEVAL TORTURE DEVICE!!! Sweet Lord that hurts like a sonofabitch!!!

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at December 28, 2022 12:00 PM (Wy1BU)

227 Thanks man.
Posted by: Thesokorus at December 28, 2022 11:57 AM (1ais2)

Anytime. I'm still in the giving spirit of Christmas!

Posted by: There's nothing like invective for the holidays at December 28, 2022 12:00 PM (s2na+)

228 Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 28, 2022 11:59 AM (fs1hN)

I got one once that said my court date was 2 weeks ago.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 28, 2022 12:00 PM (Y5qcH)

229 I have about 10 hard drives decaying in a bucket of water outside my house. Windows killed almost everyone of them.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 28, 2022 11:57 AM (enJYY)

Take them apart, and salvage the magnets out of them. Seriously strong rare earth magnets. I use one as a catch for my steel security door. And the actual platters could be used as skeet.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 28, 2022 12:00 PM (tkR6S)

230 Has anyone even seen much footage of the Ukraine war? Both Gulf wars had non-stop footage. Ukraine has just had a trickle.

It's an op. They just announced Zelenskyyyy will be the keynote speaker at the upcoming WEF meeting in Davos.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 28, 2022 12:00 PM (zm+d5)

231 It's awesome, so the MSN comment system is insanely invasive and censorious....

it would not let me call Greta Bork Bork an aspie BUT I can use a literal racial epithet and call her a squarehead.

Posted by: sven at December 28, 2022 12:01 PM (Lzpvj)

232 Ukraine has just had a trickle.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 28, 2022 11:58 AM (Y5qcH)

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Maybe prostate problems?

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at December 28, 2022 12:01 PM (flINI)

233 NOODlum.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 28, 2022 12:01 PM (Zz0t1)

234 Saw this for the first time this morning. I still do not trust her, as she ran as a Democrat and has been part of the WEF 'young leaders'. But interesting that she spoke at CPAC. Not that CPAC has been a standard bearer of conservatism or of actually accomplishing anything at all to expand the conservative movement and teach conservative principles.

That said, still interesting...

Tulsi Gabbard: "They Are Afraid Of A Free Society"

http://bit.ly/3vjRDV4

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 28, 2022 12:01 PM (Do5/p)

235 I called the office and the 'official' on the other end quickly cancelled the ticket.

If you still have the photo, you might send it to the National Motorists Association. They might be able to do something with it. That’s pretty blatant.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 28, 2022 12:01 PM (EXyHK)

236 Has anyone even seen much footage of the Ukraine war? Both Gulf wars had non-stop footage. Ukraine has just had a trickle.

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Oh come now, theyre not faking this war, I've seen plenty of video footage where the cameras being used look like they were made in 1995, showing missiles indiscriminately hitting towns with all the street signs pixeled out so they can't be read.

Why are you questioning this?

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at December 28, 2022 12:01 PM (VTu1l)

237 When kids roamed free range, sometimes with their .22 rifles, those glass insulators on telegraph poles, the ones some people collect, were frequent targets. Good thing kids don't roam around with their .22s taking out traffic cams (checks supply of five dollar bills).

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 28, 2022 12:02 PM (lz5hY)

238 Has anyone even seen much footage of the Ukraine war? Both Gulf wars had non-stop footage. Ukraine has just had a trickle.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe

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It is there on Twitter and other places if you want to take a look. But, not deemed relevant to American audiences so you won't see it here much just like there was scant coverage of Iran v. Iraq in the 80's.

I find Euro foreign news services have better coverage and try Qwant search engine to find those.

Posted by: whig at December 28, 2022 12:03 PM (bDjBG)

239 IS THIS OUR PURPOSE? THIS? FOREVER?

ARE WE MADE ONLY TO SUFFER?

Posted by: Moon-detecting AI at December 28, 2022 12:03 PM (44ww/)

240 I re-watched Hard Target last night. That movie still kicks ass. Wilford Brimley as the drunk old Cajun coot was a highlight.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 28, 2022 11:58 AM (oINRc)

Good whiskey make jackrabbit slap de bear!

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at December 28, 2022 12:04 PM (OgrpQ)

241 226 My boy spawn and his lady gave me a shiatsu foot massager for Christmas. Its supposed to help to the plantar fasciitis in my left foot. Now that I have used it a few times I can report. It works! And also...

IT'S A FUCKING MEDIEVAL TORTURE DEVICE!!! Sweet Lord that hurts like a sonofabitch!!!
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at December 28, 2022 12:00 PM (Wy1BU)

I use the foot ribs spiked toilet paper roll thing and the spiked ball. Actual tears run down my face pain but it works.

Posted by: Thesokorus at December 28, 2022 12:04 PM (1ais2)

242 The only saving grace of MSG surveillance is that the owner of the Knicks , James Dolan , is such a flaming incompetent ahole that the the Knicks will never win anything as long as he owns them

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 28, 2022 12:04 PM (bOUhi)

243
Has anyone even seen much footage of the Ukraine war? Both Gulf wars had non-stop footage. Ukraine has just had a trickle.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe

Quite a bit, mostly drone footage. The types of Uke footage changes as the Russians adapt though. For awhile it was NLAW and Javelin tank kills, then that all dried up. Probably because the Russians likely got their shit together and started doing a better job of suppressing AT teams. Then it was infantry ground combat, until the trench systems started getting more sophisticated. Then teeny tiny drones dropping grenades into individual Russian foxholes, and that footage has become rare now as Russians discover the magic of overhead cover.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 28, 2022 12:04 PM (n+4am)

244 Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 28, 2022 11:59 AM (fs1hN)

That they use Photo Shop to "improve" the photos seems extremely relevant.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 28, 2022 12:04 PM (nC+QA)

245 Take them apart, and salvage the magnets out of them. Seriously strong rare earth magnets. I use one as a catch for my steel security door. And the actual platters could be used as skeet.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 28, 2022 12:00 PM (tkR6S)

You can buy neodymium magnets off the internet. Lots of sites, all shapes and sizes. McMaster-Carr sells them too.

No, I haven't playing with super strong magnets, but I have thought about it.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 28, 2022 12:05 PM (Y5qcH)

246 Business Insider, 12/20/22 - Roomba says leaked pictures including one of a woman on the toilet were taken by test vacuums, not purchased ones

Images were leaked by a contractor.

The data labelers are low-paid contract workers outside of the US.

Posted by: Lola at December 28, 2022 12:05 PM (p39Z2)

247 Has anyone even seen much footage of the Ukraine war? Both Gulf wars had non-stop footage. Ukraine has just had a trickle.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe

Quite a bit, mostly drone footage. The types of Uke footage changes as the Russians adapt though. For awhile it was NLAW and Javelin tank kills, then that all dried up. Probably because the Russians likely got their shit together and started doing a better job of suppressing AT teams. Then it was infantry ground combat, until the trench systems started getting more sophisticated. Then teeny tiny drones dropping grenades into individual Russian foxholes, and that footage has become rare now as Russians discover the magic of overhead cover.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 28, 2022 12:04 PM (n+4am)

There is almost too much footage of the Uke war. The problem now is sifting the faked stuff and the propaganda from real reports.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at December 28, 2022 12:05 PM (pyVNc)

248 "Also, is this yellow fever?"

"I'm sorry. There are currently no 1990's Kianna Toms for sale."

"And yes. Yes it is."

Posted by: Thesokorus at December 28, 2022 11:52 AM (1ais2)

And it's a problem, why?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 28, 2022 12:07 PM (Angsy)

249
There is almost too much footage of the Uke war. The problem now is sifting the faked stuff and the propaganda from real reports.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water

Yep. Although I find it funny that every Uke infantry company seems to have it's own watermark logo with snarling wolves, looming vultures or terror-inspiring giant Humbolt squid.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 28, 2022 12:09 PM (n+4am)

250 Microsoft insists it knows better than you. Win10 set up times to download on my old, old laptop. Every single time I missed the window (pun!) to stop it, I had to use safety mode and then reset it.

My employer decided Google is the best, so we've got to use it for all email and documents. School kids are so screwed as a result. It's not just gmail; if they forget to log out of Google, their photos automatically upload to Google, too.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at December 28, 2022 11:53 AM (/+bwe)

Kid's school did that with G, now they don't.

My comp doesn't have the capability to run Win11. It told me itself, so at least I don't have to use it.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 28, 2022 12:11 PM (Angsy)

251 This busty bikini blonde isn't worried about the dystopia, but she should be:
https://is.gd/V9qZPW

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 28, 2022 11:55 AM (t0OGg)

Mary Katharine Ham?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 28, 2022 12:13 PM (Angsy)

252 I would like to try linux but as a complete tech dolt I have no idea how to get it onthe computer.

Posted by: free tibet at December 28, 2022 12:14 PM (iNp3L)

253 Oh, and have your 14 year old consent w/o your knowledge to blood, tissue and/or dna collection via the healthcare provider. Then 'they' have a link to the entire family, far and wide, too.

I have a nephew who legally participated in a DNA collection and consented to contact by possible relatives. In about the last 5 years, he's been contacted by people from around the world who are linked.

Posted by: Lola at December 28, 2022 12:14 PM (p39Z2)

254 Hiya Lola !

Posted by: JT at December 28, 2022 12:17 PM (T4tVD)

255
I would like to try linux but as a complete tech dolt I have no idea how to get it onthe computer.

Posted by: free tibet at December 28, 2022 12:14 PM

It's free, but if you need handholding if you purchase through Amazon for a reasonable price I'm pretty sure you'll get some decent directions.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 28, 2022 12:20 PM (enJYY)

256 Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 28, 2022 12:01 PM (EXyHK)
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Thanks for the advice, it's from last year, hopefully not too late.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 28, 2022 12:22 PM (fs1hN)

257 I am making $90 an hour working from home. I never imagined that it was honest to goodness yet my closest companion is earning $16,000 a month by working on a laptop, that was truly astounding for me, she prescribed for me to attempt it simply.
Here's what I've been doing.. www.Payathome7.com

Posted by: Tom at December 28, 2022 02:06 PM (fuFvg)

258 Madison Square Gardens gets to choose who their customers shall be? What happened to "bake the cake". that they don't have to provide identical services to everyone?

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at December 28, 2022 02:11 PM (K58O6)

259 These technologies COULD be used by the big box retailers to identify and detain the flash mobs of brazen criminals who have stolen at will from them, especially in the Soros-prosecutor cities.

Will they? God no. These stores understand that what some call theft is really just reparations.

Facial recognition will have its uses though. Gotta have a way to keep out the real troublemakers: the unvaxxed.

Posted by: IveGotASpecialPurpose at December 28, 2022 02:25 PM (M1tLo)

260 47 When some of the Horde begin playing word games, this place can become a Punoctagon.

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Pondeering the potential panoply of punditry presented by opening Pandora's Box presents a plentitude of problematic possibilities!

Posted by: Muldoon at December 28, 2022 11:14 AM (ykeLU)
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Perhaps you peed yourself?

Posted by: P to the power of p at December 28, 2022 04:01 PM (qfLjt)

261 They must have catalogued the facial recognition data of hundreds of employees of that firm, and for what? They must be fielding a mess of lawsuits at any one time. So, everyone associated with any of those firms is banned? For how long?

Posted by: Art Deco at December 28, 2022 07:32 PM (1BrBu)

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263

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