Despite Claims of the FBI and the Partisan Left -- but I Repeat Myself -- the FISA Applications Were Lifted Almost Exclusively From the Known Lies and Fabrications Contained in the Steele Report

The FBI continues to spin that the FISA applications were based only in part on the lies in the Steele "dossier." Which, critically, are not merely known to be lies now, but were known to be fabrications by the FBI when the FBI pejuriously seeded them in the FISA applications.

Paul Sperry went through the FISA applications and found that entire sentences were copy-pasted from the Steele "dossier," and some copied with only minor editing, like changing Steele's spelling of "defence" in the British way to "defense" in the American style.

The FBI relied more extensively on Christopher Steele's debunked dossier in their Russiagate investigation than has been revealed, inserting key parts from it into their applications for warrants to spy on the 2016 Trump campaign.

Agents did this without telling the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court that the precise wording was plucked  directly from a political rumor sheet paid for by Hillary Clinton's campaign or providing judges with any independent corroboration of the explosive  allegations.
For years, defenders of the FBI and its Russiagate probe have downplayed the bureau's reliance on the opposition research cooked up by Steele -- with its incredible tales of billion-dollar bribes and pee-tapes -- insisting it was limited to justifying the  surveillance of a single Trump campaign adviser and used sparingly.
But the notion that mere "snippets" of the reporting by paid Clinton subcontractor Christopher Steele showed up  in FISA applications,  as CNN has described it, no longer holds up to scrutiny.

A close examination of all four of the FISA warrants reveals that the FBI lifted dozens of key  phrases -- as well as practically some entire sentences -- from the dossier  and pasted them verbatim into their sworn  affidavits. It did so repeatedly without citing its sources or using typical hedging language such as "allegedly" or "purportedly" to indicate that the claims were unverified.
As a result, the FBI lent its voice of authority to many of the unsourced -- and now debunked -- accusations in the dossier.
For example, bureau lawyers avowed under oath in all four warrant applications that "the FBI has learned" that onetime Trump campaign  adviser Carter Page had secretly met with sanctioned Kremlin officials in Moscow. But those allegations  came from Steele's D.C.-based collector Igor Danchenko, who admitted to the FBI in a January 2017 interview his input  was just "hearsay" gathered from "conversation with friends over beer."
It is not clear whether the bureau decided to pay Steele in connection with the dossier so that it could represent the material as originating from one of its own confidential sources. At one point it reportedly offered him $1 million if he could verify key claims (he could not).
Meanwhile, the FBI repeatedly portrayed improbable third-hand rumors as sound "intelligence," despite taking them directly from paid political opposition research operatives. Suggesting independent verification, the bureau repeatedly assured the FISA court it "assesses" the truth of damning claims.
In some cases, the FBI mixed partial information from one dossier report with partial information from another  report to draw broader conclusions. It then used these as a foundation to claim evidence of a grand election "conspiracy" between the Trump campaign and Russia, with Page acting as an  "intermediary." Such a conspiracy was what counterintelligence agents needed to convince the FISA court that their  main target Page was a Kremlin agent who posed a national security threat, and that deploying the government's most intrusive  investigative  method -- electronic surveillance -- was necessary to investigate him.
In short, the FBI fabricated conclusions from fabrications and turned them into sworn representations before the  powerful Foreign Intelligence  Surveillance Court.

Veteran FBI investigators who have worked counterintelligence cases and sworn out wiretap warrants say the  agents who ran the Russiagate investigation, codenamed Crossfire Hurricane, violated the fundamental principle requiring them to independently verify evidence they present to the court.

"Their actions -- lying and misrepresentations on warrants and affidavits -- are antithetical to every instruction  at FBI training at Quantico and in the field,"  said 27-year FBI veteran Michael Biasello.  "Any FBI Academy  trainee and agent in the field is aware that search warrants, affidavits and any accompanying documents and  information contained therein requiring federal judicial approval is to be vetted and verified to create a pristine  document. Their accuracy is vital."
The FBI declined comment.

...
Like CNN, the New York Times has tried to minimize the agency's reliance on the dossier. In a recent  article  on Durham's  inquiry, the Times maintained that the FBI only used "some" claims from the dossier in applying for court  permission to wiretap Page.

In fact, the FBI used several claims -- and those claims happened to constitute the most critical "evidence" in the  wiretap applications. Even  former deputy FBI director Andrew McCabe has admitted that if not for the Steele  dossier, no surveillance warrant would have been sought for Page.

All told, the FBI used four dossier reports -- Report 80, Report 94, Report 95 and Report 102 -- in all  four of its  FISA wiretap warrants targeting Page in 2016 and 2017. And three of the reports were based on a fictitious  source.

Danchenko falsely claimed this information came from Sergei Millian, who had denied he had ever said these things the moment rumors got out that he had said them, and who had in due time been vindicated. These were just ludicrous fictions Danchenko made up but needed to say someone told him about them, so he said, "It was Schwartz."

Wait, no, that was A Christmas Story.

He said, "It was Sergei Millian."

And the FBI continued to pack these lies into its FISA applications even after learning Danchenko made it all up.

...
In addition to falsely claiming that Moscow held a blackmail sex video of Trump  cavorting with urinating hookers at the Ritz-Carlton, Moscow, Report 80 alleged that the Kremlin had "kompromat" on Hillary Clinton and was feeding it to Trump -- and that it had been "very helpful" to his  campaign. The compromising information on Clinton, which the report ironically referred to as a "dossier," was  said to be "controlled exclusively by chief Kremlin spokesman Dmitriy Peskov, who was responsible for  compiling/handling it on the explicit instructions of [Russian President] PUTIN himself."
The FBI found this to be valuable "intelligence" and included it in all its FISA applications. Adopting the same  language of Report 80 (document images here), it told the FISA court that "this dossier [on Clinton] was, by the direct instructions of  Russian President Putin, controlled exclusively by Senior Kremlin Spokesman Dmitriy Peskov." It added, further  parroting Report 80, that the information had been "very helpful" to Trump.

Then the FBI went one step further than anything Steele reported. "Accordingly," the bureau's FISA application  said on page 19, "the FBI assesses that [Kremlin official Igor] Divyekin received direction by the Russian  Government to disclose the nature and existence of the dossier [on Clinton] to Page."

Divyekin is not named in Report 80. It appears instead that the FBI got his name from another Steele memo, Report 94, and then injected him into the narrative. Report 94 was also a treasure trove of misinformation. It claimed that the Kremlin spokesman had held "secret meetings" with Page, along with U.S.-sanctioned Russian official Igor Sechin, during a trip Page made to Moscow in July 2016.

So that is the FBI now inventing its own fictions, based upon the fictions in the Steele "dossier."

The bureau then made this reporting its own in a FISA application, telling the court, "The FBI has learned  that Page met with at least two Russian officials during this trip," even  though it had no independent knowledge of such a meeting. While Page did travel to Moscow at the time to give a speech at a college where President Obama also  once spoke, the secret meetings were another tall tale. Page told agents he didn't even know who Divyekin was. But that  didn't stop the FBI from inserting the false rumors into its spy warrants (document images here).

The FBI also used this unclear, vague (and also fabricated) claim to help reinforce its also-bogus tip about George Papadopolous. Papadopolous told an Australian diplomat that he'd heard a rumor that the Russians had dirt on Hillary Clinton. No shit, Sherlock -- we all know that Russia and China had both hacked her bathroom server.

The FBI turned this into some kind of insinuation that Papadopolous was being told by Kremlin agents that they had dirt.

And now they connected that bullshit fantasy up with the bullshit fantasies they were creating based on Danchenko's lies from the Steele "dossier," and connected the two complete fictions, making the fictions mutually confirm each other:

This appears to be why the FBI drew the conclusion that Divyekin had "received direction by the Russian Government" to  share the Clinton dirt with Page, a stretch even for the dossier, which never said Divyekin was operating on  orders from the Russian government. But the FBI needed Russian intelligence to be involved to sell the  espionage "conspiracy."

The imagination of Crossfire Hurricane agents was running full throttle, but then they made an even bigger  leap. At the top of page 20 of their first FISA request, they stated: "The FBI  assesses the information funneled by the Russians to Page may be part of Russia's intent to influence the 2016  U.S. Presidential election."

This put a nice bow on the grand conspiracy for the FISA court, which is that Russia helped Trump steal the  election.

The way the FBI framed it for FISA judges, it was an urgent matter of national security to let agents monitor Page --  and also collect any past communications he had with Trump campaign officials -- to stop the theft of the White  House by the Kremlin.

Paul Sperry summarizes that the FBI knew that Danchenko was falsifying his sources by fall 2017 -- and yet continued affirming in their FISA applications that his claims were "truthful."

Former FBI investigators say it's clear their colleagues weren't played by their sources, but rather played along  with them.

"The bureau was not misled. The bureau received false information , knew it to be false, and still represented it  as true for the purpose of the affidavits," Biasello said. "That is a blatant  criminal act."

So many straight-shooters.

Posted by: Ace at 04:38 PM

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1 Italics!

Posted by: ballistic at December 21, 2022 04:38 PM (oXNqT)

2 Chuy is too fast

Posted by: ballistic at December 21, 2022 04:39 PM (oXNqT)

3 Should be fixed.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 21, 2022 04:39 PM (XIJ/X)

4 Hey

Posted by: Ciampino - *%$^# to all enemies of the Republic at December 21, 2022 04:39 PM (qfLjt)

5 Here is the list of people who will see the inside of a jail cell for purposefully and willfully violating the Constitution of the United States, and for spying on the people they're charged to protect:

Posted by: ballistic at December 21, 2022 04:40 PM (oXNqT)

6 FUCK TOM COTTON

in the ass

Posted by: REDACTED at December 21, 2022 04:40 PM (us2H3)

7 Paul Sperry went through the FISA applications and found that entire sentences were copy-pasted from the Steele "dossier," and some copied with only minor editing, like changing Steele's spelling of "defence" in the British way to "defense" in the American style.
+++++
HAHAHAHHA

Wow, that's funny. Not even trying. Not even a little bit. This means they didn't care at *all* that they might get caught. They had good reason for this assessment. It was true.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 21, 2022 04:41 PM (t0OGg)

8 lol

No, seriously. None of this matters. It should, but since there will be no justice or consequences like jail time, lol.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at December 21, 2022 04:41 PM (h3Ulj)

9 Along with funding Ukraine, our top priority should be to fully fund the FBI.

Posted by: Mitch McConnell at December 21, 2022 04:42 PM (IaTa3)

10 The FBI declined comment.
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Why? Did Wray have to take his taxpayer-funded jet off to a vacation again?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 21, 2022 04:42 PM (t0OGg)

11 still, distractions

Posted by: REDACTED at December 21, 2022 04:42 PM (us2H3)

12 F 🐝👁️ .... new house needs tondo some work...

Posted by: runner at December 21, 2022 04:43 PM (ObYK0)

13 But muh pension!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at December 21, 2022 04:43 PM (+hI+T)

14 hiya

Posted by: JT at December 21, 2022 04:43 PM (T4tVD)

15 The FBI continues to spin that the FISA applications were based only in part on the lies in the Steele "dossier."

You gotta admit, 100% is a pretty big part of anything...

Posted by: FBI at December 21, 2022 04:43 PM (ptElO)

16 I bet Andy McCarthy has an excuse for why this is all just standard operating procedure.
Nothing at all to be alarmed about.
Just making Fed Sausage is all.

Posted by: garrett at December 21, 2022 04:43 PM (5f91x)

17 Evenin' Horde! Off to Christmas with the whole Fam Dammly.

Posted by: Hawkpilot at December 21, 2022 04:44 PM (HmeqS)

18 Say….where is Ray Epps?

Posted by: Piper at December 21, 2022 04:44 PM (ZdaMQ)

19 Don't defund it. Don't "burn it all down".

Obtain power. Then fill the bureuae with your own people. Then use it to crush your political enemies (starting with republicans).

Never happen, but it should.

Posted by: Hands at December 21, 2022 04:44 PM (786Ro)

20 They prolly have shiiit on Mitch, so he had to fund them.

Posted by: runner at December 21, 2022 04:44 PM (ObYK0)

21 Well, if you rubes were smarter, the government wouldn't have to go to all this trouble of preventing you from voting wrong.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at December 21, 2022 04:45 PM (Nda6m)

22 Nothing will happen.

Posted by: that guy that always thinks nothing will happen at December 21, 2022 04:45 PM (yQpMk)

23 I've been hearing all this outrage porn for 6-8 years

and yet, still no out cum

Posted by: REDACTED at December 21, 2022 04:45 PM (us2H3)

24 None of this matters. Not at all. Not then, not today, not tomorrow. The FBI is comprised of a bunch of a corrupt liars who act as a gestapo for the State/Party/Media Complex? The hell you say. They act with impunity and aren't even careful with their plots? Astonishing. They are so sure of their own power and safety that they do whatever the hell want, whenever the hell they want to do it? Say it ain't so!

The system - not the FBI, but the entire federal government - is rotten to its very core. These findings aren't surprising and they also, sadly, aren't relevant. Nothing will change, no one will be stopped, no one will be punished. They will keep gestapoing until the wheels come off, and will be stopped by nothing but the collapse of the whole rotten edifice. News like this does not bother them in the slightest.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 21, 2022 04:45 PM (t0OGg)

25 Biden and Zelenskyy now in news conference.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 21, 2022 04:45 PM (63Dwl)

26 At this point, I almost wish the Russians would influence our government.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 21, 2022 04:45 PM (doaiM)

27 We acted on the best information we had at the time!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at December 21, 2022 04:45 PM (+hI+T)

28 Mmm. Ham and eggs.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at December 21, 2022 04:46 PM (Vwz3I)

29 Mallamut!

Kind of disappointed to see no mention of Zach Greinke in there.

Posted by: garrett at December 21, 2022 04:46 PM (5f91x)

30 Defending our precious democracy!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at December 21, 2022 04:46 PM (+hI+T)

31 You know, "cut and paste" was created for a reason.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 21, 2022 04:46 PM (Q4IgG)

32 Don't defund it. Don't "burn it all down".

Obtain power. Then fill the bureuae with your own people. Then use it to crush your political enemies (starting with republicans).

Never happen, but it should.
Posted by: Hands at December 21, 2022 04:44 PM (786Ro)

Obtain Power, delete FBI, make your own bureau and staff it with your people. There's more evidence for the Loch Ness monster than an honest FBI agent.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 21, 2022 04:46 PM (eoQWY)

33 You know, "cut and paste" was created for a reason.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 21, 2022 04:46 PM (Q4IgG)
++++
Yeah. For mid-afternoon snacks.

Posted by: Joe Biden at December 21, 2022 04:47 PM (t0OGg)

34
HAM AND EGGERS!!!!!

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 21, 2022 04:47 PM (n+4am)

35 31 You know, "cut and paste" was created for a reason.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 21, 2022 04:46 PM (Q4IgG)

to keep first graders distracted ??

Posted by: REDACTED at December 21, 2022 04:47 PM (us2H3)

36 efunday ethay olewhay itshowshay.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at December 21, 2022 04:48 PM (I9VC/)

37 T = 21:48 Zulu, 4:48PM EST. We have solstice. Solar right ascension = 18hr, or celestial longitude = 270 degrees on the nose. Sol is now exactly at the nadir of the ecliptic, the great annual arc he follows, like clockwork. This is seasonal midnight, so to speak.

Today will be the shortest day, and the longest night (Northern Supremacist POV, of course). This is the moment of turning, when Sol stops his southern descent, "stands still" and then turns northward. Henceforth, the days will get longer, slowly at first, then rapidly around the vernal equinox, seasonal dawn.

To everything there is a season, and Sol's arc across the sky governs the seasons. Now begins astronomical winter, but all through the next 6 months, Sol will be ascending northward, promising Spring and Summer to come yet again.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at December 21, 2022 04:48 PM (Mzdiz)

38 Sheesh! Didn't we already know this or divine it?
Nothing is going to come of any of these revelations; they keep getting distilled for our consumption and distraction from other issues occurring now, today.

Posted by: Ziba at December 21, 2022 04:48 PM (4h9M3)

39 20 They prolly have shiiit on Mitch, so he had to fund them.
Posted by: runner

Maybe. He would have funded them regardless. He's retiring after his term (I think) and needs to please his masters one last time (The ChiComs, WEF, Chuck Schumer's Dick, Democrats, kOrPoRAtionS).

Posted by: Puddleglum at December 21, 2022 04:48 PM (sAmhv)

40 Sol Invictus.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 21, 2022 04:49 PM (yQpMk)

41 David Reaboi, Late Republic Nonsense

@davereaboi
I’m so fucking heartbroken I can’t move. My coach and close friend died in his sleep last night.

I am sure it wasn't the vax. Nope. No way.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at December 21, 2022 04:49 PM (+hI+T)

42 America has no rear view mirror

Posted by: REDACTED at December 21, 2022 04:49 PM (us2H3)

43 So did Mrs. Zelensky come with the Mister? There's lots of good shopping in the US and she's about to get a Billion plus more to spend from Uncle sugar Daddy Joe...

Posted by: It's me donna at December 21, 2022 04:49 PM (bs+z0)

44 Zelenskiya groveling or Biden drooling yet?

Posted by: Ziba at December 21, 2022 04:49 PM (4h9M3)

45 >>I’m so fucking heartbroken I can’t move. My coach and close friend died in his sleep last night.

Coach?

Who the fuck has a Coach?

Posted by: garrett at December 21, 2022 04:50 PM (5f91x)

46 Today will be the shortest day, and the longest night (Northern Supremacist POV, of course). This is the moment of turning, when Sol stops his southern descent, "stands still" and then turns northward. Henceforth, the days will get longer, slowly at first, then rapidly around the vernal equinox, seasonal dawn.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjEQWSTqp_s

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 21, 2022 04:50 PM (AuTCi)

47 The bad agents are really making thing tough for the one or two good agents and the intern.

Posted by: NR Pax at December 21, 2022 04:50 PM (Z7Jj3)

48 I woke up and realized the U.S. govt. is an evil empire and if the whole world hates it, they have good reason to.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at December 21, 2022 04:50 PM (I9VC/)

49
They just lied about 1,000,000 jobs

This is Soviet, East German, Orwell level shit

Posted by: Yo! now Ultra MAGA at December 21, 2022 04:51 PM (aDbL5)

50 The FBI must be dismantled. There is no other positive course.

Posted by: Francis W. Porretto at December 21, 2022 04:51 PM (Nmmyc)

51 Zelenskiya groveling or Biden drooling yet?
Posted by: Ziba at December 21, 2022 04:49 PM (4h9M3)

I'll give Mister Z this, at times I'm not sure who is puppeting who in these interactions.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 21, 2022 04:51 PM (eoQWY)

52 >>America has no rear view mirror.>>

....

More like America has no mirrors period.

Posted by: Ziba at December 21, 2022 04:51 PM (4h9M3)

53 The bad agents are really making thing tough for the one or two good agents and the intern.
Posted by: NR Pax at December 21, 2022 04:50 PM (Z7Jj3)

The intern is an FBI op.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 21, 2022 04:52 PM (eoQWY)

54 Gawd.

...based on in part on the lies...

Then it's a friggin' lie!!! These assholes should be happy they never the Mother of Diogenes.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 21, 2022 04:52 PM (anj39)

55 The people responsible will be allowed to retire, with FULL benefit packages and ushered into handpicked positions in Corporate America.

Posted by: garrett at December 21, 2022 04:52 PM (5f91x)

56 Meh. Next you will be telling me politicians lie, cheat and steal.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at December 21, 2022 04:52 PM (EHSip)

57 Who the fuck has a Coach?
Posted by: garrett at December 21, 2022 04:50 PM (5f91x)

I had a coach

an old Jewish dude who explained life to me

Posted by: REDACTED at December 21, 2022 04:52 PM (us2H3)

58 These assholes should be happy they never the Mother of Diogenes.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 21, 2022 04:52 PM (anj39)

Or the business end of my mom's wooden spoon.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at December 21, 2022 04:53 PM (EHSip)

59 Then it's a friggin' lie!!! These assholes should be happy they never the Mother of Diogenes.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 21, 2022 04:52 PM (anj39)

Its long past time to put down your lantern, Mr D., at least in DC.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 21, 2022 04:53 PM (eoQWY)

60 So who's going to jail for this?

Posted by: squid_hunt at December 21, 2022 04:53 PM (S/NWs)

61 Y’all. Sorry to be off topic so quickly. If they pass the Mitch McConnell Drunken Sailor Spending Spree Act of 2022, and they erect the statue to journalists we must embrace the same rage leftists have against founding fathers on it. They lead by example.

Posted by: Piper at December 21, 2022 04:54 PM (ZdaMQ)

62 60 So who's going to jail for this?
____

Why, Papadopolous of course!
-DOJ

Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 21, 2022 04:54 PM (fs1hN)

63 Or the business end of my mom's wooden spoon.
Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at December 21, 2022 04:53 PM (EHSip)

Exactly

Posted by: Diogenes at December 21, 2022 04:54 PM (anj39)

64 We have investigated our actions and determined that we acted innocently without intention of wrongdoing.

Any further questioning of us could be construed by us as an attack on democracy.

Posted by: The FBI at December 21, 2022 04:55 PM (jGGMD)

65 Joe Mannix has my proxy on this one.

So will the August FISA court say or do anything after it has been shown they were artlessly and brazenly deceived by the DOJ/FBI?

There was that rather spicy (by judiciary standards) memo to DOJ a few years back by the FISA chief judge on the wholesale abuse of NSA surveillance data (702b queries). Dunno if anything has come of this.

Back in the days when there was a US, anything one tenth that outrageous would have sparked a firestorm around intel authorization votes and FISA itself. Oh well.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 21, 2022 04:55 PM (OTzUX)

66 Disclose.tv @disclosetv
NEW - FBI on Twitter Files: "Conspiracy theorists and others are feeding the American public misinformation... to discredit the agency."

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/
1605670995183951877

https://tinyurl.com/yrhhcm4h

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at December 21, 2022 04:55 PM (Vwz3I)

67 Who the fuck has a Coach?

People who compete.

Posted by: t-bird at December 21, 2022 04:55 PM (hPvGe)

68 What's going on in this AZ court is just as rinky-dink as one could possibly imagine.

Also, there should be a civilian fine/penalty for *utilizing* 'So, ...' to start speaking.

Uh, what reference number from the PP deck was that? 605?! No, that's uh, um twenty.....three????

The players all seem to be in some sort of stupor (they sound vaccinated).

Posted by: micky at December 21, 2022 04:55 PM (3byMq)

69 we must embrace the same rage leftists have against founding fathers on it. They lead by example.
___

Who's this 'we'?

I'm not embracing rage or anything else used by the enemy.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at December 21, 2022 04:55 PM (/+S6w)

70 60, well if J6 is any clue, we are.

Posted by: Piper at December 21, 2022 04:56 PM (ZdaMQ)

71 Are there any honest or ethical people working in the federal government?

Bueller? Bueller?

Posted by: Czech Chick at December 21, 2022 04:56 PM (uSDaJ)

72 Its long past time to put down your lantern, Mr D., at least in DC.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 21, 2022 04:53 PM (eoQWY)

Hard to keep the flame lit inside the beltway.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 21, 2022 04:56 PM (anj39)

73 I read "The Jewish War" by Flavius Josephus. By 70 AD, it was the Roman Legions that "elected" the Emperor.

Later, the Praetorian Guard was effective in getting rid of one or more.

Hmmmm.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at December 21, 2022 04:56 PM (I9VC/)

74 Hope you are having a great day, SMH! It must be super cold where you are.

Posted by: Piper at December 21, 2022 04:56 PM (ZdaMQ)

75 Or, if you wish:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJS9TjjHxx8

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 21, 2022 04:56 PM (AuTCi)

76 >>I had a coach
>an old Jewish dude who explained life to me

Grandpa.

Or, are you talking about a Life Coach? Because that sounds about right for you.

Posted by: garrett at December 21, 2022 04:56 PM (5f91x)

77 Back in the days when there was a US, anything one tenth that outrageous would have sparked a firestorm around intel authorization votes and FISA itself. Oh well.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 21, 2022 04:55 PM (OTzUX)

or if even the FISA court members had a millimeter of pride in themselves and resented being lied to.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 21, 2022 04:57 PM (eoQWY)

78 Or even the august FISA court.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 21, 2022 04:57 PM (OTzUX)

79 >>People who compete.

Reaboi seems a little old for AYSO.

Posted by: garrett at December 21, 2022 04:57 PM (5f91x)

80 The fbi and justice are corrupt beyond repair

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 21, 2022 04:57 PM (xDh35)

81 Odd time for a news conference on war support, no?

Posted by: Unkaren at December 21, 2022 04:57 PM (9mhOz)

82 Again, when I see the convictions I might perk up. Otherwise it's DC business as usual.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at December 21, 2022 04:57 PM (BdMk6)

83
As we know from the text messages, Strzok and Page filed that FISA application over drinks and with a solid Party judge (Rudy Contreras). He certainly approved it before it ever saw the inside of the Deep State's little kangaroo court.

None of this was done legally, and the contents of the application had no bearing on its approval. They could have pushed a cocktail napkin across the table with "FUCK TRUMP" written on it in lipstick, and that old kleptocrat would've signed off on it.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 21, 2022 04:57 PM (oINRc)

84 43 So did Mrs. Zelensky come with the Mister? There's lots of good shopping in the US and she's about to get a Billion plus more to spend from Uncle sugar Daddy Joe...

Posted by: It's me donna at December 21, 2022 04:49 PM (bs+z0)
----
I read elsewhere that she was in Paris for shopping, all $40,000, and I bet it's OUR MONEY.

Posted by: Ciampino -- *%$^# to all enemies of the Republic at December 21, 2022 04:57 PM (qfLjt)

85 It's 38 right now, so no, it's not.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at December 21, 2022 04:58 PM (/+S6w)

86 NEW - FBI on Twitter Files: "Conspiracy theorists and others are feeding the American public misinformation... to discredit the agency."
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Kind of like how Libs of TikTok discredits the LBGT nutjobs.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 21, 2022 04:58 PM (fs1hN)

87 I read "The Jewish War" by Flavius Josephus. By 70 AD, it was the Roman Legions that "elected" the Emperor.

Later, the Praetorian Guard was effective in getting rid of one or more.

Hmmmm.
Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at December 21, 2022 04:56 PM (I9VC/)

At one point the guard had an auction between two candidates for Emperorship.

The winner had a few weeks before Septimius Severus brought the nearest real army down from Illyria to put himself on the throne.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 21, 2022 04:58 PM (eoQWY)

88 It's still rather amazing that the ball hasn't been advanced one iota from The Steele Dossier, it's pretty much been chicken f**cked to a degree I did not think was possible.

In another 15 years, we might get around to some other bit that will be chicken f**ked to death as well.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 21, 2022 04:59 PM (up/3i)

89 None of this was done legally, and the contents of the application had no bearing on its approval. They could have pushed a cocktail napkin across the table with "FUCK TRUMP" written on it in lipstick, and that old kleptocrat would've signed off on it.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 21, 2022 04:57 PM (oINRc)
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How do we know it *didn't* happen that way?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 21, 2022 04:59 PM (YIVH2)

90 Looks like a domestic abuse movie on Lifetime!

Posted by: Unkaren at December 21, 2022 04:59 PM (9mhOz)

91 I read elsewhere that she was in Paris for shopping, all $40,000, and I bet it's OUR MONEY.
Posted by: Ciampino -- *%$^# to all enemies of the Republic at December 21, 2022 04:57 PM (qfLjt)

I'm sure it was all saved from Z's comedy earnings.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 21, 2022 04:59 PM (eoQWY)

92 I wouldn't call the Eff Bee Eye for any reason under the sun

Posted by: Skip's phone at December 21, 2022 05:00 PM (xhxe8)

93 Right now, I think the presence of the FBI, CIA, and other tentacles of the intelligence community pose more of a threat to the US than their absence.

Posted by: butch at December 21, 2022 05:00 PM (cHvOo)

94 Anybody worried that the economic screw-ups that Douche McConnell has abetted will eventually have to be 'cured' by a direct war with Russia?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 21, 2022 05:00 PM (fs1hN)

95 The Steele Dossier is a Ponzi scheme of information.

Look, over 500 "sources" and counting. Just add your periodical to the "sources" list!

Posted by: Axeman at December 21, 2022 05:01 PM (goWOv)

96 andycanuck @66 beat me to it.

Check out that FBI response to the twatters revelations/confirmations.

There is not the smallest concern in FBI quarters over any of this. Their statement is the sort of thing SAVAM would say about allegations of misconduct by the mullahs' internal police. The KGB just never commented, of course, but that's a cultural difference.

Even now, chilling and astonishing.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 21, 2022 05:02 PM (OTzUX)

97 Whatever the FBI says just assume the opposite is true. Premier Abuser of Rights Agency!

Posted by: Unkaren at December 21, 2022 05:02 PM (9mhOz)

98 And Sean Hannity will still firmly plant his lips on their asses and eagerly chew and swallow every last lump of feces that comes out like the weak little coprophage he is.

Posted by: XTC at December 21, 2022 05:02 PM (UnA8+)

99 "Right now, I think the presence of the FBI, CIA, and other tentacles of the intelligence community pose more of a threat to the US than their absence."
Posted by: butch at December 21, 2022 05:00 PM (cHvOo)

Only to half of the U.S.

Posted by: lowandslow at December 21, 2022 05:02 PM (qH6FZ)

100 Anybody worried that the economic screw-ups that Douche McConnell has abetted will eventually have to be 'cured' by a direct war with Russia?
Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 21, 2022 05:00 PM (fs1hN)

you mean the same way their sanctions was supposed to ruin Russia instead of make it stronger economically and ruin Europe?

I'm not sure the best Marine would do better downrange of Russian guns than a Ukrainian recruit, and it isn't like we haven't given away all our ammo already.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 21, 2022 05:03 PM (eoQWY)

101 @94

>>Anybody worried that the economic screw-ups that Douche McConnell has abetted will eventually have to be 'cured' by a direct war with Russia?

Yeah, because The Laws of War would dictate that Russia has just cause to attack American and NATO targets.

I don't think Putin would do this but the fact that The Ruling Junta have gone all YOLO with the potentiality of a nuclear exchange should make every clear minded person break out into a cold sweat.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 21, 2022 05:04 PM (up/3i)

102 Looks like a domestic abuse movie on Lifetime!
Posted by: Unkaren at December 21, 2022 04:59 PM (9mhOz)

Is this a new trend?

Posted by: JoeF. at December 21, 2022 05:04 PM (mR6Gs)

103 A trial in Albany County was declared a mistrial because an fbi agent failed to turn over to prosecution and defense 200 pages of evidence. The defendant was charged with two bank robberies. An accomplice previously pled guilty admitting to shooting a bank employee. Case should be a slam dunk, but fbi boy screwed the pooch

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 21, 2022 05:05 PM (W1h4/)

104 beat me to it.
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Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at December 21, 2022 05:06 PM (Vwz3I)

105 So lifetime is still Men Behaving Badly channel?

Posted by: Skip's phone at December 21, 2022 05:06 PM (xhxe8)

106
I don't think Putin would do this but the fact that The Ruling Junta have gone all YOLO with the potentiality of a nuclear exchange should make every clear minded person break out into a cold sweat.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 21, 2022 05:04 PM (up/3i)

I think all the Ruling Junta sees is that the Bear is very weak and no longer has an excess population to throw at their enemies like they had in WW2. They figure now's the time to stick it to them.

Posted by: JoeF. at December 21, 2022 05:07 PM (mR6Gs)

107 101,94 a rule of governance is that if things are going to shit internally, start a war externally. Biden is such an ahole he might just do it

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 21, 2022 05:07 PM (W1h4/)

108 Huawei disbands enterprise business team in Russia in further pullback amid Western sanctions

.. even the Ruskies didn't trust Huawei equipment

Posted by: SMOD at December 21, 2022 05:07 PM (RHGPo)

109 Today, beside being the Winter Solstice and the traditional shortest day of the year, marks the anniversary of the death of one of our greats, George S. Patton, Jr. in 1945. Arguably the greatest armor commander in any army, he was 60.

*Salute*

https://valorguardians.com/blog/?p=135126

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at December 21, 2022 05:07 PM (/+S6w)

110 Good thing the GOPe is rushing to build the FBI a new building/complex and broadening their powers. If McConnell et al hurry, maybe they can insert emergency omnibus budgeting for some reeducation camps for Tea Partyers and MAGA people.

Yep, elections will save us. Thank goodness there's always an election to get us out of messes.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at December 21, 2022 05:08 PM (aXxgO)

111 Conspiracy theorists and others are feeding the American public misinformation... to discredit the agency.

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The preamble to that statement is the same line they deployed about planting agents in the Trump Campaign.

"We put spies in the campaign to *protect* Trump, you see."

"We requested API access to *protect* Twitter and its customers, you see."

And just as they did in the first risible instance of this, the media on "our" side will talk about the good ham-and-eggin' men and women of the FBI, and join them in calling anyone who questions their truthfulness in the matter a conspiracy theorist.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 21, 2022 05:09 PM (oINRc)

112 So, what's the ol' FIB doing w/60 agents in Moscow, Idaho to help with murder investigation of the 4 slain students? And the chief of police read yesterday from a teleprompter that this is a PD investigation and he's in charge?

Posted by: Prime Sister at December 21, 2022 05:09 PM (osXyk)

113 Biden just said Russia was using winter as a weapon.

Really? No shit, Sherlock.
Now Ukraine Thug saying a Just Peace is philosophical and is starting to talk damages.

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at December 21, 2022 05:09 PM (j+FHS)

114 Da erf is flat.

Oops. Wrong thread.

Posted by: Stacey Abrams at December 21, 2022 05:09 PM (ygXlX)

115 Schwartz!!!! I knew it all along!!

Posted by: t-dubya-d at December 21, 2022 05:09 PM (xARli)

116 I firmly believe,
That they firmly believed,
That if they probed deep enough they would find dirt to justify the probing.

I am amazed that they didn't, and impressed. I think they were in denial.

My question is, did they ever decide to become a coup? Or were they still thinking it was justified right to the bitter end.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 21, 2022 05:09 PM (yy6mE)

117 >>I think all the Ruling Junta sees is that the Bear is very weak and no longer has an excess population to throw at their enemies like they had in WW2.

The ruling class is wrong if they think that. The Russians have roughly 1M reservists sitting this one out right now and have barely leveraged their allies for support.

They have shrugged off all the attempts to spike their economy and have opened up relations with every single one of our enemies and many of our former (and current) allies.

So, unless they think and army of Puppy Fetishists and Trans Seals are gonna carry the battlefield, they'd better rethink their position.

Posted by: garrett at December 21, 2022 05:10 PM (5f91x)

118 Biden just said Russia was using winter as a weapon.

Shit someone better tell Napoleon and Hitler

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 21, 2022 05:10 PM (xDh35)

119 I don't think Putin would do this but the fact that The Ruling Junta have gone all YOLO with the potentiality of a nuclear exchange should make every clear minded person break out into a cold sweat.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 21, 2022 05:04 PM (up/3i)
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For 60+ years I have always assumed that intelligent people engaged in a cold, hard and clear rationality in the analysis and use of nuclear weapons. I really wonder if that exists today?

Posted by: Diogenes at December 21, 2022 05:11 PM (anj39)

120 I've declared the word "Biden" to be a hate crime

Posted by: SMOD at December 21, 2022 05:11 PM (RHGPo)

121
Ha Ha Ha.

Better turn in early tonight, Morons.

The FBI doorbusters are cranky at 5 am.

Posted by: Auspex at December 21, 2022 05:11 PM (j4U/Z)

122 Hey, if you're gonna stop Orange Hitler, you may have to cut a few corners!

Posted by: butch at December 21, 2022 05:11 PM (cHvOo)

123 In the last year it seems, every bit of news posted everywhere, just adds to the stink and decay of our once great USA. I weep for our Country, which jas been totally corrputed by the left in every way, shape, and form.

I can hardly even scroll through headlines anymore, here, instapundit, liberty daily...places that try to be strong for conservatives.

Sorry for the depressing rant. I'm an optomistic person, who has been blessed beyong all belief. Just gotta focus on little things in my personal world, which are ok.

Posted by: Jimmy Doolittle at December 21, 2022 05:11 PM (ZvM1q)

124 112 So, what's the ol' FIB doing w/60 agents in Moscow, Idaho to help with murder investigation of the 4 slain students?
Posted by: Prime Sister

FIB Prime directives:
- expense accounts. Lots of charges. Field offices are great for big expense accounts.
- take credit when the locals solve something.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 21, 2022 05:12 PM (yy6mE)

125 Biden acting like Ukraine is in nato

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at December 21, 2022 05:12 PM (j+FHS)

126 "Both the official accident report and several key witnesses soon went missing. And most ominous of all, a former American intelligence operative confessed in October 1979 that he had planned and participated in the assassination of Gen. George S. Patton Jr."

https://tinyurl.com/2546zt8j

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at December 21, 2022 05:12 PM (/+S6w)

127 Make the few bad actors in the FBI remain in the old building. Only place the 99.99% of the good ones in the new building. That'll teach 'em.

Posted by: Sean Hannity at December 21, 2022 05:12 PM (aXxgO)

128 Biden just said Russia was using winter as a weapon.

Does he remember the retreat of Napoleon's Grand Army?

Posted by: That NLurker it comes in pints? at December 21, 2022 05:12 PM (VdGjU)

129 Sean Hannity will still firmly plant his lips on their asses and eagerly chew and swallow every last lump of feces that comes out like the weak little coprophage he is.
Posted by: XTC at December 21, 2022 05:02 PM (UnA8+)

You are conspiracy theorist, trying to discredit the Great American Sean Hannity.

UNRELATED: This Christmas Eve, the Top Men of our vaunted FBI will observe our time-honored tradition of boarding busses from DC to Manhattan during this festive season, and then taking turns three-holing the wife of a prominent Irish-American broadcaster as he furtively watches the assignation from his closet.

Posted by: Special Agent Hammond Eggs at December 21, 2022 05:12 PM (oINRc)

130 For 60+ years I have always assumed that intelligent people engaged in a cold, hard and clear rationality in the analysis and use of nuclear weapons. I really wonder if that exists today?

Posted by: Diogenes

I firmly believe we need to have an above ground test, perhaps in the South Pacific once every 20 years to remind people what these weapons do. I suggest a 25 Mton device.

Posted by: SMOD at December 21, 2022 05:13 PM (RHGPo)

131 Biden just said Russia was using winter as a weapon.

Shit someone better tell Napoleon and Hitler
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 21, 20

Right? Water is wet

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at December 21, 2022 05:13 PM (j+FHS)

132 >>Biden just said Russia was using winter as a weapon.

Cruel.

But not unexpected.

Posted by: garrett at December 21, 2022 05:13 PM (5f91x)

133 128 and Stalingrad and Leningrad

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 21, 2022 05:14 PM (W1h4/)

134 The BIGGER LIE: Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court.

It's all DOMESTIC now, baby.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at December 21, 2022 05:14 PM (Ndje9)

135 "Does he remember the retreat of Napoleon's Grand Army?"

Wasn't he there?

Posted by: Bosk at December 21, 2022 05:14 PM (ZVuYy)

136 And Andy McCarthy can go horse fuck.

Posted by: butch at December 21, 2022 05:15 PM (cHvOo)

137 128 Biden just said Russia was using winter as a weapon.

Does he remember the retreat of Napoleon's Grand Army?
Posted by: That NLurker it comes in pints? at December 21, 2022 05:12 PM (VdGjU)

Biden can tell you about he carried CornPop's frozen corpse all the way back to Paris where he could be buried with honors.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 21, 2022 05:15 PM (eYoxG)

138 Insurrection by the Eff Bee Eye!!!

That's what it was.

Posted by: Sharkman at December 21, 2022 05:15 PM (VRkIV)

139 Biden just said Russia was using winter as a weapon.
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lmao

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at December 21, 2022 05:16 PM (/+S6w)

140 Yeah, because The Laws of War would dictate that Russia has just cause to attack American and NATO targets.

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The NordStream attack seems to have fallen off the earth after Sweden confirmed it was blown up.

It almost certainly had to be a US/British operation.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at December 21, 2022 05:16 PM (lDqUu)

141 How long before we have our own "bidengrad?"

Days, weeks, months or years?

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 21, 2022 05:16 PM (Q4IgG)

142 Russia has been using winter and the thaw as weapons for so long.....

Moscow is literally built where the Mongols had trouble reaching re mud.

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at December 21, 2022 05:16 PM (j+FHS)

143 137 Biden can tell you about he carried CornPop's frozen corpse all the way back to Paris where he could be buried with honors.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 21, 2022 05:15 PM (eYoxG)

All the French Kids liked to play with the weird frozen hairs on Corn Pop's corpse's legs.

Posted by: XTC at December 21, 2022 05:17 PM (UnA8+)

144 >>It almost certainly had to be a US/British operation.

Didn't the Brits broadcast a confirmation of it? I remember reading something about that re. Liz Trust or whomever the British bint in charge was?

Posted by: garrett at December 21, 2022 05:17 PM (5f91x)

145 141 How long before we have our own "bidengrad?"

Days, weeks, months or years?
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 21, 2022 05:16 PM (Q4IgG)

Still have to rename Chicago "Obamagrad" first.

Posted by: XTC at December 21, 2022 05:18 PM (UnA8+)

146
Days, weeks, months or years?
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 21, 2022 05:16 PM (Q4IgG)

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Years. Our deliberately failed wars are planned on generational timetables, to maximize the graft yielded by dint of the subject class's blood and treasure.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 21, 2022 05:18 PM (oINRc)

147 Biden just said Russia was using winter as a weapon.

*Zelensky turns to Biden Global Warming Lieutenant*

You arrogant ass, you've killed us!

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 21, 2022 05:19 PM (doaiM)

148 I have had all of the ham and eggs I can stand. Close the Bureau.

Posted by: Wally at December 21, 2022 05:19 PM (FJYfm)

149 Sam Bankman-Fried is about to get Epsteined:

https://tinyurl.com/yc26bbkb

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at December 21, 2022 05:19 PM (/+S6w)

150 What?
You want those Rocket Scientists at NASA in charge?

Posted by: You're Feeb Betters at December 21, 2022 05:19 PM (FhXTo)

151 *Zelensky turns to Biden Global Warming Lieutenant*

You arrogant ass, you've killed us!
Posted by: Bitter Clinger
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heheh

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at December 21, 2022 05:20 PM (/+S6w)

152 marks the anniversary of the death of one of our greats, George S. Patton, Jr. in 1945. Arguably the greatest armor commander in any army, he was 60.

*Salute*

https://valorguardians.com/blog/?p=135126
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at December 21, 2022 05:07 PM (/+S6w)

Maternal grandfather (RIP) landed with Patton's 3rd Army several days after D-Day. Went through the hedgerows and all the way into Germany. Had two tanks shot out from under him along the way. After the second he said "Hell with THIS!" and became the cook for his company. He showed me pictures of one of the 'work camps' they liberated when I enlisted in the Army and told me I needed to make sure something like that never happened again.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-Tempus belli) at December 21, 2022 05:20 PM (l7Kbv)

153 The city of Buffalo, New York, has filed a "first of its kind" lawsuit targeting firearms manufacturers, blaming the industry for rising gun violence despite New York's strict gun control regime.

Major manufacturers, including Beretta, Smith & Wesson, Bushmaster, Glock and Remington, are named as defendants in the suit

Posted by: DB at December 21, 2022 05:20 PM (geLO8)

154 I'm baking cranberry, orange and walnut bread.

Marine's gf is in town. I'm making a Christmas dinner for her as she leaves on Friday to be with her family. Prime rib, tortellini with alfredo sauce (her request) and a Cesar.

The table will be set with the Christmas dishes and depression glass wine glasses and my great grandma's sterling silver.

I'm so freaking happy.

Posted by: nurse ratched, I wanna cookie, dammit! at December 21, 2022 05:21 PM (U2p+3)

155 Everything Joe says sounds like a cornpop uncle frank story

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at December 21, 2022 05:21 PM (j+FHS)

156 >>Major manufacturers, including Beretta, Smith & Wesson, Bushmaster, Glock and Remington, are named as defendants in the suit

Remington settled w/ the Sandy Hook Crisis Actors and now the fun begins.

Posted by: garrett at December 21, 2022 05:22 PM (5f91x)

157 I firmly believe we need to have an above ground test, perhaps in the South Pacific once every 20 years to remind people what these weapons do. I suggest a 25 Mton device.
Posted by: SMOD at December 21, 2022 05:13 PM (RHGPo)

This idea has merit. Every new generation of leaders need to see the terrible power of these weapons. Id recommend maybe 200 KT and underground. That would still convey the idea.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 21, 2022 05:22 PM (anj39)

158 Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-Tempus belli) at December 21, 2022 05:20 PM (l7Kbv)
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lol, can't blame him for switching jobs.

God bless him, and thank you for sharing this.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at December 21, 2022 05:22 PM (/+S6w)

159 I'm so freaking happy.
Posted by: nurse ratched, I wanna cookie, dammit! at December 21, 2022 05:21 PM (U2p+3)

Is she getting a bib for Christmas?

Posted by: Kindltot at December 21, 2022 05:22 PM (xhaym)

160
Sam Bankman-Fried is about to get Epsteined:

https://tinyurl.com/yc26bbkb
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at December 21, 2022 05:19 PM (/+S6w)

Honestly... I kinda doubt it. I think he's in protective custody (for now). He's unlikely to spill the beans, and this keeps him from testifying in Congress about his extensive Party ties, until public attention dies off.

I think this is much more like Epstein's first rodeo, where the FBI and CIA used the legal system to shield him in the guise of "punishing" him. Time will tell, but I don't think we've seen the last of SBF.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 21, 2022 05:22 PM (oINRc)

161 Biden just said Russia was using winter as a weapon.
_____

Huh, I thought "Climate Change" was going to make winter a thing of the past by now. Maybe we should pump out more CO2 to defeat Russia's aggression in Ukraine?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 21, 2022 05:23 PM (fs1hN)

162 >>I'm baking cranberry, orange and walnut bread.

Nice. I went looking for Cranberry Walnut Bread yesterday, but the Bakery had sold out early and I had to settle for a Cocodrillo.

Posted by: garrett at December 21, 2022 05:23 PM (5f91x)

163 I'm so freaking happy.
Posted by: nurse ratched, I wanna cookie, dammit! at December 21, 2022 05:21 PM (U2p+3)

That's awesome!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at December 21, 2022 05:23 PM (anj39)

164 The Department of Homeland Security just ordered a blackout on the public reporting of the number of migrants crossing the border.

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Well, ignorance is bliss.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at December 21, 2022 05:23 PM (Ll21Q)

165 What are the odds on Biden claiming to be Ukrainian and growing up eating borscht on the streets of the Little Kiev neighborhood in Scranton?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 21, 2022 05:24 PM (doaiM)

166 It’s uncle Frank this and that because his chickenshit dad sat out the war like a true Biden

Posted by: x at December 21, 2022 05:24 PM (a8lui)

167 Good for you, Nurse! So glad you're enjoying doting on your Marine and his girlfriend. And getting to cook Christmas dinner for them. Hooray! 🤸‍♀️

Posted by: Prime Sister at December 21, 2022 05:24 PM (osXyk)

168 But try to say this online, that the FBI based its FISA applications on the Steele Dossier. You will INSTANTLY be hounded by accounts saying that this is a lie. Are those accounts just die-hard Dems or are they FBI assets? Or both?
How much of the online communication about the FBI going after Trump was orchestrated by the FBI?

Posted by: 29Victor at December 21, 2022 05:25 PM (BJKQV)

169 Biden just said Russia was using winter as a weapon.

Does he remember the retreat of Napoleon's Grand Army?
Posted by: That NLurker it comes in pints? at December 21, 2022 05:12 PM (VdGjU)

REMEMBER? He passed out purple hearts to the survivors!

Posted by: Kindltot at December 21, 2022 05:25 PM (xhaym)

170 Sam Bankman-Fried is about to get Epsteined: https://tinyurl.com/yc26bbkb Posted by: SMH at what's coming at December 21, 2022 05:19 PM (/+S6w)

Hey, something I saw the other day. So Ghislane Maxwell was convicted for human trafficking of minors, but there haven't been any indictments for who said minors were trafficked to. What's up with that?

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at December 21, 2022 05:25 PM (7B5FA)

171 Simple. Ukraine is an honorary member of NATO so it checks out.

Posted by: micky at December 21, 2022 05:25 PM (3byMq)

172 I firmly believe we need to have an above ground test, perhaps in the South Pacific once every 20 years to remind people what these weapons do. I suggest a 25 Mton device.
Posted by: SMOD at December 21, 2022 05:13 PM (RHGPo)

This idea has merit. Every new generation of leaders need to see the terrible power of these weapons. Id recommend maybe 200 KT and underground. That would still convey the idea.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 21, 2022 05:22 PM (anj39)

Do it. Please.

Posted by: Godzilla at December 21, 2022 05:25 PM (FJYfm)

173 Russia's General Winter is their best commander.

Posted by: Archer at December 21, 2022 05:26 PM (gmo/4)

174 153 The city of Buffalo, New York, has filed a "first of its kind" lawsuit targeting firearms manufacturers, blaming the industry for rising gun violence despite New York's strict gun control regime.

So does.this mean a local business can file suit against the city of buffalo because all their graduating high school seniors are unemployable?

Posted by: Diogenes at December 21, 2022 05:26 PM (anj39)

175 Biden is also using winter as a weapon. Against us.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 21, 2022 05:27 PM (63Dwl)

176 Swedish health authorities have officially broken ranks with the World Professional Association for Transgender Health (WPATH) with the announcement that gender clinics will no longer be attempting to perform experimental sex changes on under-18s but will instead offer "psychological support to help youth live with the healthy body they were born with."

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Those racist bastards!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at December 21, 2022 05:27 PM (Ll21Q)

177 Hey, something I saw the other day. So Ghislane Maxwell was convicted for human trafficking of minors, but there haven't been any indictments for who said minors were trafficked to. What's up with that?
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at December 21, 2022 05:25 PM (7B5FA)
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The folks who are currently conducting coups here in the US are the same ones diddling kids.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at December 21, 2022 05:27 PM (/+S6w)

178 Oops. Apologies. Read the content. I was pretty sure it was Schwartz tho.

Posted by: Ralphie at December 21, 2022 05:27 PM (xARli)

179 176 Swedish health authorities have officially broken ranks with the World Professional Association for Transgender Health (WPATH) with the announcement that gender clinics will no longer be attempting to perform experimental sex changes on under-18s but will instead offer "psychological support to help youth live with the healthy body they were born with."

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Those racist bastards!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at December 21, 2022 05:27 PM (Ll21Q)

Actually a big deal, since in the 90s, Sweden was like the World Capital of Tranny Surgery.

Posted by: XTC at December 21, 2022 05:28 PM (UnA8+)

180 Lol. Just visited the FIB's twitter page.
They are getting roasted!

Posted by: Bosk at December 21, 2022 05:28 PM (ZVuYy)

181 Awesome, under a blizzard warning starting tomorrow evening. Procrastinating Christmas shoppers are going to be in trouble

Posted by: A dude in MI at December 21, 2022 05:29 PM (/6GbT)

182 It's Winter Solstice and the Jewish Assyrian guy everyone is looking to as a world leader is out and about. Can't say that doesn't make me anxious.

Posted by: squid_hunt at December 21, 2022 05:29 PM (S/NWs)

183
It’s uncle Frank this and that because his chickenshit dad sat out the war like a true Biden
Posted by: x at December 21, 2022 05:24 PM (a8lui)

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Shows what you know about a true Brandon, jack.

https://tinyurl.com/bdf4bk6h

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 21, 2022 05:29 PM (oINRc)

184 The NordStream attack seems to have fallen off the earth after Sweden confirmed it was blown up.

It almost certainly had to be a US/British operation.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at December 21, 2022 05:16 PM (lDqUu)

There were also attacks on gas pipelines in Russia and Turkey a month or so later. These failed to do much injury, except perhaps to Turkish relations.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 21, 2022 05:30 PM (eoQWY)

185 Let the airing of grievances begin!

Posted by: Archer at December 21, 2022 05:30 PM (gmo/4)

186 "Non-binary queer" artist featured in Vogue for LGBT art arrested for arranging rape of a 9-year-old boy and sharing child porn

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Helluva coinky dink that all these poster boys for perversion are showing up on wanted posters.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at December 21, 2022 05:30 PM (Ll21Q)

187 155 Everything Joe says sounds like a cornpop uncle frank story
Posted by: dagny, first of her name
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Cornpop and Uncle Frank were important men in their time and Joey B. taught them a necessary lesson_rubs down the hairs on his leg.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at December 21, 2022 05:31 PM (NyTrm)

188 Can you be a non-binary queer?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 21, 2022 05:31 PM (doaiM)

189 Swedish health authorities have officially broken ranks with the World Professional Association for Transgender Health (WPATH) with the announcement that gender clinics will no longer be attempting to perform experimental sex changes on under-18s but will instead offer "psychological support to help youth live with the healthy body they were born with."

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Those racist bastards!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at December 21, 2022 05:27 PM (Ll21Q)

Actually a big deal, since in the 90s, Sweden was like the World Capital of Tranny Surgery.

Posted by: XTC at December 21, 2022 05:28 PM

The pendulum always swings back. It might take quite some time, but it always swings back.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 21, 2022 05:32 PM (uNylN)

190 Regarding California and the proposed slavery reparations, all it will do is cause enmity between Blacks and Hispanics and everyone else who would miss out. If the aim was to start a race war what would they be doing differently?

Posted by: President Select Decaf at December 21, 2022 05:33 PM (3JfbU)

191 I firmly believe, That they firmly believed, That if they probed deep enough they would find dirt to justify the probing. I am amazed that they didn't, and impressed. I think they were in denial. My question is, did they ever decide to become a coup? Or were they still thinking it was justified right to the bitter end. Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 21, 2022 05:09 PM (yy6mE)

As I've posted before, there were 4 groups of people involved in the Russia hoax: 1. The true conspirators (Strzok, Page, etc) who knew the story was bogus but pushed it for political reasons; 2. The gullible, who believed it was true because they were told it was true (and in many cases because it confirmed their own political bias); 3. The overly trusting, who didn't know one way or the other, but if their chain of command told them it was true, then it must be true; and 4. The cynical careerists, who could look at it and see it was probably bogus, but Hillary was going to win and there was no upside to not going along with it (and then plenty of reasons to double down on it to cover up after Trump won).

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at December 21, 2022 05:33 PM (7B5FA)

192 CBS News Blames Climate Change For Flight Turbulence…

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This would seem to be a problem that will resolve itself. If turbulence gets too bad, flying ends, and we return to climate Eden.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at December 21, 2022 05:33 PM (Ll21Q)

193 It almost certainly had to be a US/British operation.

Didn't the Brits broadcast a confirmation of it? I remember reading something about that re. Liz Trust or whomever the British bint in charge was?
Posted by: garrett at December 21, 2022 05:17 PM (5f91x)

Yes, Liz Truss, who I think was the one who didn't know which Sea Ukraine in next to, sent a message saying "Its Done" to the US before the news broke anywhere. It was found by the Russians in open cloud data storage, so she wasn't using official channels.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 21, 2022 05:34 PM (eoQWY)

194 I began to admire Vespasian and his son Titus.

Serious soldiers. No vices.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at December 21, 2022 05:34 PM (I9VC/)

195 Regarding California and the proposed slavery reparations, all it will do is cause enmity between Blacks and Hispanics and everyone else who would miss out. If the aim was to start a race war what would they be doing differently? Posted by: President Select Decaf at December 21, 2022 05:33 PM (3JfbU)

It'll never happen, but payoff day in Watts or Crenshaw would be fun to watch.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at December 21, 2022 05:35 PM (7B5FA)

196 As the kids say these days, didn't have Sweden being an island of sanity on my 2000s scorecard. First declining to participate in The Great Idiocy, then downgrading their "climate" ministry, now this.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 21, 2022 05:35 PM (OTzUX)

197 The pendulum always swings back. It might take quite some time, but it always swings back.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 21, 2022 05:32 PM (uNylN)

But it's still sound science, dammit!

Posted by: Doctor of Phrenology at December 21, 2022 05:35 PM (FJYfm)

198 From Insty-
Woke Nike Was a Playground for Drunken Sexual Predators, According to Just-Released Documents. “The allegations include the company acting as a “boys club” where women are told to ‘dress sexier’ and ‘show some skin.’ Another woman claims to have walked ‘into a campus gym to find a senior staffer receiving oral sex from a female subordinate.'”
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"Was that wrong? Should I not have done that?" replied the accused senior staffer, Mr. G. Costanza. ""I tell ya, I gotta' plead ignorance on this thing, because if anyone had said anything to me at all when I first started here, that that sort of thing was frowned upon, you know...‘cause I’ve worked in a lot of offices and I tell you, people do that all the time!"

Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 21, 2022 05:36 PM (fs1hN)

199 60% of the country reads this story and says "that's ok, I'm fine with that." That's why we are now living in a fascist dictatorship.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 21, 2022 05:36 PM (trdmm)

200 197 The pendulum always swings back. It might take quite some time, but it always swings back.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 21, 2022 05:32 PM (uNylN)

No, it doesn't. Sometimes the clock just breaks and all that's left is a pile of ruins.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 21, 2022 05:37 PM (trdmm)

201 Another woman claims to have walked ‘into a campus gym to find a senior staffer receiving oral sex from a female subordinate.'”

*peruses 'Careers' tab on nike.com*

Posted by: t-bird at December 21, 2022 05:37 PM (BOHPk)

202 >>Another woman claims to have walked ‘into a campus gym to find a senior staffer receiving oral sex from a female subordinate.'”

Gettin' some Dome here, Boss.

Posted by: garrett at December 21, 2022 05:38 PM (5f91x)

203 I'm so freaking happy.
Posted by: nurse ratched, I wanna cookie, dammit! at December 21, 2022 05:21 PM (U2p+3)

Christmas is going to be different here. Son #1 can only stary through Monday. Son #2 works both Christams eve and day, but he gets basically double time, so he's good with it. So we'll open gifts on Eve, and have our big dinner on Monday.

I have a prime rib roast as big as Neil Cavuto's head. Gonna be epic.

Best part though is just hanging out with my family.

(I now have a song from BIRDEMIC in my head

)

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gen X Ne'er-Do-Well at December 21, 2022 05:39 PM (xPJvm)

204 I began to admire Vespasian and his son Titus.

Serious soldiers. No vices.
Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at December 21, 2022 05:34 PM (I9VC/)

One day V put a small tax on the public urinals' output where before leather producers could take the urine for free for tanning. Apparently a group of them went to T to appeal to his dad and claimed it was 'unseemly' to get money from such things. V pulled out one of his coins and held it under T's nose saying "It doesn't stink now, does it?"

Posted by: Oldcat at December 21, 2022 05:40 PM (eoQWY)

205 This is what people and organizations do when they KNOW from past experience that there will be no condequences.

Posted by: JM in Florida at December 21, 2022 05:41 PM (wGK1C)

206 "Another woman claims to have walked ‘into a campus gym to find a senior staffer receiving oral sex from a female subordinate."

I love that we now pretend these normal human behaviors are the ultimate in shocking discovery now. Like 90% of these women haven't been in a similar circumstance.

Posted by: squid_hunt at December 21, 2022 05:41 PM (S/NWs)

207 I shall reserve judgment until we hear from Andy McCarthy.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at December 21, 2022 05:41 PM (NW9xb)

208 >>Another woman claims to have walked ‘into a campus gym to find a senior staffer receiving oral sex from a female subordinate.'”

Gettin' some Dome here, Boss.
Posted by: garrett at December 21, 2022 05:38 PM (5f91x)

Always thought a major purpose of sex liberation and feminism and abortion was to provide no strings whores for the business community.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 21, 2022 05:41 PM (eoQWY)

209 FBI STATEMENT ON TWITTER:

It is unfortunate that conspiracy theorists and others are feeding the American public misinformation with the sole purpose of attempting to discredit the agency.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 21, 2022 05:42 PM (ptqGC)

210 "Another woman claims to have walked ‘into a campus gym to find a senior staffer receiving oral sex from a female subordinate."

I love that we now pretend these normal human behaviors are the ultimate in shocking discovery now. Like 90% of these women haven't been in a similar circumstance.
Posted by: squid_hunt at December 21, 2022 05:41 PM (S/NWs)

She was probably early to her own meeting with a senior staffer.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 21, 2022 05:42 PM (eoQWY)

211 nood

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at December 21, 2022 05:43 PM (/+S6w)

212 "FBI STATEMENT ON TWITTER:

It is unfortunate that conspiracy theorists and others are feeding the American public misinformation with the sole purpose of attempting to discredit the agency."

WRONG!!

It's your entire history that discredits your agency. From. Day. One. Fucking Feebs.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gen X Ne'er-Do-Well at December 21, 2022 05:44 PM (xPJvm)

213 Here's how I think the DOJ/FBI will deal with any House oversight in the next two years, they're going to ignore them. I wouldn't be surprised if Biden instructs all his departments and agencies to ignore them. What's the House going to do about it?

Posted by: lowandslow at December 21, 2022 05:45 PM (qH6FZ)

214 FBI STATEMENT ON TWITTER:

It is unfortunate that conspiracy theorists and others are feeding the American public misinformation with the sole purpose of attempting to discredit the agency.

That assumes there's credit to begin with.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at December 21, 2022 05:45 PM (XGZoL)

215 Just do it, bitch.

Posted by: Nike at December 21, 2022 05:46 PM (sWM8x)

216 The pendulum always swings back. It might take quite some time, but it always swings back.

Nope. There is a pin at the bottom. The pendulum never makes it to the right side.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at December 21, 2022 05:48 PM (I9VC/)

217 As for Kamala Harris blaming Republicans for the border disaster, she is correct. I lay it all at the feet of McConnell and his group but also the rest of the Republicans for saying nothing. They are the opposition and are supposed to oppose. Or did I get that wrong?

Posted by: President Select Decaf at December 21, 2022 05:52 PM (3JfbU)

218 FBI STATEMENT ON TWITTER:

It is unfortunate that conspiracy theorists and others are feeding the American public misinformation with the sole purpose of attempting to discredit the agency.

That assumes there's credit to begin with.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory

It's not a game, but if you are keeping score, Conspiracy Theorists are 17 & 0.

Posted by: rickb223 Gone Galt at December 21, 2022 05:55 PM (jVeJE)

219 an we have known every bit of this for 6 years ... not the details perhaps, but in broad outline.
at this point, who cares? what does it matter? nothing will happen, well except for all of the criminals getting richer and more powerful.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - we are being gaslighted 24/365 at December 21, 2022 06:00 PM (fxj5q)

220 If all was based on it, then part of it was too. That seems to be the logic of the statement.

A small part of the Steele Dossier was false, because all of it was false.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 21, 2022 06:00 PM (ynpvh)

221 "The pendulum always swings back. It might take quite some time, but it always swings back."

Swings back to where? What if the Statue of Liberty (lamp to the world of how to win Liberty, not the leftist poem donor, which describes the "donor" problem) ... What if the Statue of Liberty (and OK, include the period back to the American Revolution) ... what if THAT was the extreme swing to "the right"?

Even today, much of the world is under the hammer of some form of totalitarianism. And today, the powers of the West are surrendering as quickly as possible.

Old Testament ... lots of ruin around the world, even in the "twelve tribes". God spoke of maintaining a remnant, but that was often very few, maybe even hundreds hiding in caves.

BUT "in all these things we are more than conquerors" .. I don't think we (Christians, or whatever) are destined to be defeated on this worldly plane, we can unite and defeat the evil ones. (but only if we recognize that the Institutional Church has been infiltrated.) "Study to show thyself approved unto God", then you and the One Body (Christ is the "Head of the Corner", foundation rock) can be more than conquerors.

Posted by: illiniwek at December 21, 2022 06:00 PM (Cus5s)

222 Posted by: illiniwek at December 21, 2022 06:00 PM (Cus5s)

I think of one of these Rube-Goldberg death machines where a pendulum, sharped to a edge on the bottom, swings back and forth, getting closer to its victim with every cycle.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 21, 2022 06:02 PM (ynpvh)

223 No one cares.

Posted by: MikeN at December 21, 2022 06:02 PM (UFs6P)

224 209 FBI STATEMENT ON TWITTER:

It is unfortunate that conspiracy theorists and others are feeding the American public misinformation with the sole purpose of attempting to discredit the agency.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 21, 2022 05:42 PM (ptqGC)

It's more than unfortunate that the FIB manipulated the election and lies to Congress and the public.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 21, 2022 06:03 PM (ynpvh)

225 "For 60+ years I have always assumed that intelligent people engaged in a cold, hard and clear rationality in the analysis and use of nuclear weapons. I really wonder if that exists today?

Posted by: Diogenes at December 21, 2022 05:11 PM (anj39) "

I don't wonder at all, I know in my heart that if it was once true, it is no longer. shocking part? not sure if I care anymore.
a new dark ages of technofeudalism? nuclear holocaust?
*makes equivocal hand-tilting gesture*
fucked is fucked.
and we are.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - we are being gaslighted 24/365 at December 21, 2022 06:09 PM (fxj5q)

226 where is our "nacht die langen messer"?

Posted by: william kessler at December 21, 2022 06:37 PM (M6NUl)

227 Anything taken from the Steele Dossier was paid for by Hillary Clinton. She paid for those fraudulent FISA applications. She paid for it, she owns it; Frog-March Hillary. I am so tired of #CorruptFBISOBs and #CorruptDOJSOBs

Posted by: william ferrin at December 21, 2022 07:26 PM (axY+s)

228 Wow. Just wow.

So now the righteous and just representatives of the American People, especially the Republicans, are going to fully investigate and reform the FBI?

Or nah? It’s nah, right? Right.

Posted by: Dummy #43 at December 21, 2022 07:59 PM (U2W4Y)

229 That bear is not hidden, and I will not rest until I prove that Ron Desantis is behind this bear's deceit.

Posted by: Mike Lindell at December 21, 2022 09:40 PM (KFhLj)

230 The Steele Dossier says conspiracy of cooperation between Trump and Russia with Page as an intermediary. FBI didn't want to make it obvious they were targeting Trump so they made it a 'conspiracy of cooperation' between Carter Page and Russia.

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